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[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Did you compare S3's battery to the Padfone's both batteries? ;)

Anyhow, I wouldn't say that Padfone is the best smartphone now according its specs, but it is in the top segment of the market with S4 Krait CPU, 32Gb flash,S-AMOLED screen etc.
[Android General] Someone09:
As always, this is a very subjective topic.

E.g. I wouldn´t call the SGS3´s screen better because it is also much bigger. Same for the HTC One X.

As for the processor, I think S4 is pretty much topnotch right now. IMO Tegra is nice on the specs but just doesn´t work properly on tablets, yet. Though, I havn´t had the chance to have a look at the Infinity.

Better battery: No doubt about that. But don´t forget that you´ll two more much bigger batteries in the set, too. ;)

For me, the perfect phone-only phone to compare the Padfone to is the HTC One S which I happen to have, too.

The One S is a bit faster (but almost not noticeable) and the screen is definately better/brighter.

But that´s about it.
[Android General] Kermode:
Is anybody else having problems with Google Googles? When I press the camera button it just lights up in orange, but it doesn't actually take/submit the picture?
[Android General] Someone09:
Hmpf...I just spent the last half hour trying to get that stupid screenprotector on the Station.

Stupid thing...
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I don't understand people wining about wanting to hav the latest "known phone"...

One of my girlfriends really wants the SGS3 (she currently has an HTC Sensation), I said buy my SGS2, but she didn't want it because... becasue it's an old phone :P... she doesn't even know what a CPU or an AMOLED display is XD

But even if you know what all the htechnical specs mean... is the difference that big in the end?

I mean camera for example, if you want to shoot great pictures, buy a separate camera, the one on the phoen is just to shoot quick pics imo (my SGS2 made shapr pictures, but it couldn't win in any way of my simple 10mp samsung camera)...

And a quadcore cpu on a phone... I didn't even use the full dualcore cpu on my SGS2, and I multitask A LOT (ok, this is a different story on a tablet, since I multitask even more on a tablet, but even that wouldn't make a "huge" difference)...

the only downside this phone has to me is the colors on the screen (white is pinkish), because I came from an SGS2, but I'm sure if I came from another phone, I wouldn't have a problem with it...
[Android General] oroo708:
is the corning gorilla glass on the padfone really a scratch resistant glass?? mine got scratch on both phone and the station!!! :mad:
[Android General] cty.stuart:
it shud be theoritically.. how come? what happened? i have a few strokes where i thought was scratch. but when i rub it with damp cloth, it goes away...
[Android General] oroo708:
First I got it like that on the tablet, I thought it was just a little dirt on the screen, then I tried rubbing it with the damp cloth and still there, den I tried using my nail,but the thing got bigger, then i tried using something pointy to check what happen, I just realize there're a hole on the top screen layer. and just now there is like another 3 small dirt look alike.

while on the phone, I was in hurry today, so I just did put my car key on the same pocket with my phone. I'm not really sure if the key is the reason, got a long scratch on it and at the tip of the scratch, the screen's top layer were about to peel off, I noticed this when got back home.. :(
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I've used my tf101's screen as a plate to put metal/aluminium soupe bowls on to carry them to the table at my last internship XD

I sold my tf101 without any scratch on the screen (it had scratshes on the side of the tab itself and the dock though)...

So I guess the station and phone should be pretty much he same... there is a video out there on youube showing the strength of the tf101 screen...
[Android General] phoxy84:
What system keyboard apps did you remove? I sill have asus keyboard which I cannot change to user apps with Titanium.
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
I removed the Chinese keyboards and disabled the Android and ASUS keyboards (in Settings->Apps).
[Android General] phoxy84:
I can't disable them because they are system apps, cannot change with Titanium. Any idea's?
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
I just converted the Chinese keyboard to a User app and froze it in Titanium... press and hold?
[Android General] Krad213:
Seems very sad, that none of hardcore android developers interested in this device, we even haven't separate forum. Maybe we should cooperate and buy one padfone for Cyanogen ? :)
[Android General] Alle090:
Yea, it does surprise me to about the low interest of this device. Especially when its from a well known and favored brand.

BTW, I discovers an issue with the tablet taking pictures, If the phones in inside the tablet and you use the flash at night, you will see it in the pic to the right
[Android General] Justin^Tan:
For updated firmware issue to jellybean , here are some insight. don't know if it's reliable or not

http://www.gsminsider.com/2012/07/asus-ceo-says-android-41-jelly-bean.html
[Android General] NCRoadster:
My Padfone Station did not have the bluetooth stylus inside. Has this happened to any of you?
[Android General] hippo1n2:
its not in the box... the stylus got a diff packaging.
[Android General] oroo708:
Probably due to the announcement of padfone 2??
[Android General] Krad213:
I don't see any announcement on the internet, the only thing is single slide saying padfone - 3g, padfne 2 -4g. I assume that "padfone 2" will be the same, but with 4g module (our device has a latest hardware and I doubdt that it will be outdated till second half of 2013)
[Android General] oroo708:
i can feel the deep cut on the phone and the station too.. really annoying :eek:
[Android General] TNTPOP:
Probably because it's not yet widely available and they prefer, I suppose, to concentrate on the latest smartphones that are really available.

A new ROM for a SGS3 is likely to interest 100's of users as it was sold at X millions but for the PadFone, how many have been sold?

I'm not saying they won't, just saying that not yet
[Android General] Krad213:
Alert guys, seems phone formats "sdcard" on factory reset, just lost all my music, and photos ! Sync often.
[Android General] sbr_23:
hey guys, i just got my padfone a couple of days back. I have a problem where the display on the phone does not switch on after taking it out of the padfone station. it was working fine and then suddenly stopped. i did a factory reset and that seemed to have solved the problem, but it just happened again. any insight as to why its happening.? i also noticed that when you put into the station or take it out there is a white circle that comes up, but it doesnt anymore. not sure if that helps.
[Android General] Alle090:
Sounds like a Padstation error? Latest firmware?
[Android General] sbr_23:
I got the ota update. its the latest firmware.
[Android General] Someone09:
Did anyone tried if Voodoo Sound (for ICS) works on the Padfone?

I just tried and I am honestly not sure if it does...
[Android General] phoxy84:
Still the dynamic switching can be better. With swift key after getting the phone out of the station the keyboard layout is weird and google play setting are reset after switching.

Also the message of having and external sd card is annoying.

No other remarks for now :-)
[Android General] dimitriossara:
I go from taiwanese version to european and i have to say that is more smoothless and more quickly and stable now my padphone.

So if anyone have disapointed with taiwan version...he must go forward for european WW
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
That does get irritating. I hope they'll fix that in a future OTA.
[Android General] NCRoadster:
Anyone have any luck with a 64GB Micro SD? My Sandisk class 6 isn't reading.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
The SD cards is a known issue, I guess asus wil fix this in the future....

http://www.padfoneclub.com/pl/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1
[Android General] phoxy84:
Battery is definately weird, phone had 25%, rebooted and had 45%
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I had this issue ones on my pf station... battery was on 100% for a couple of hours, dropped to 90, and suddenly dropped to 14 XD...

But that's a software isseu, will be fixed some time...

And I never really use the battery indicators, after you get to know your device, you know how long you can go on with it after usage without looking at the battery stats...
[Android General] Cyman:
how?

How did you switch to European Firmware?
[Android General] smelian:
i think if developers got the Padfone they will make lot of things that's make the phone much better same as Galaxy Nexus and maybe more cuz its have lot of things to do

i wish Xda admin make Forums and developers interests on getting padfone
[Android General] dimitriossara:
Follow the instructions here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1106545&page=162

Many thanks to Krad213
[Android General] NCRoadster:
I'm really loving this phone. It has excellent battery life, and the padfone station is just amazing.
[Android General] creed555:
After reading aboute all the problems, I'm glad I havent bought it yet.

Even if all the problems are solved wit new FW, I think asus should not put a "half" product on the market.
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
So, one report of highly unstable and one of stable. I think I'll wait for a bit more feedback...
[Android General] starrwulfe:
Remember, you're going to read more about problems here in this thread because xda devs is all about tinkering with our toys. Plus power users frequent here more than the average user.
[Android General] TNTPOP:
Bought one from e-bagel-tw...

Paid today and now waiting, hope it will arrive soon, say... NOW :D (wish)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
If you've had a full set in your hands for one day you'll change your mind...

I've had a lot of devices, and this is one of the moste complete devices that I've ever had...

The only problems I've had is wifi not working (3 times in 2.5 weeks), and I broke one pin on my backdoor (as far as I know I'm to only one who managed to do that XD)... Oh yeah, and a battery meter that can't make up it's minde some times :P
[Android General] starrwulfe:
Is there a place where I can buy a complete set other than eBay? Expansys Japan only has the 16GB version and it doesn't come with the keyboard. When I asked why there's no keyboard, they acted like I was from another planet! I want to get this in time to travel next week; but with customs and so on, I may as well put my US address instead maybe?
[Android General] lord_neno:
PadFone is delayed in Spain :(
[Android General] commensal:
Bought mine on 6 of july to the guy on ebay from italia. Normaly he doesn't ship to France but make an exception. Now waiting like you...
[Android General] zechrisd:
I bought mine (on 5 July in the evening) to the same guy (labscom) and he never said me that he doesn't ship to France
[Android General] seca08:
In indonesia not pending, but until now no information about lounching this product :-(
[Android General] cty.stuart:
yes. i second your opinion. no device has allow me to be more productive than padfone does. I am constantly working and playing on the move
[Android General] commensal:
We bought the asus exactly at the same time... it was exactly the 5th in the evening for me to. Now if you try to find labscom on ebay (without using "my EBAY") normally it doesn't appear as they modified their advertising and only ship to italia. First time they certainly made an mistake in description.

Have you receive a tracking number since?
[Android General] NCRoadster:
Totally agree. I am an amateur photographer, and it really is great to see my pics on my Padfone station right after I shoot them.
[Android General] zechrisd:
I didn't receive any tracking number but in the last message seller told waiting 4 working days

Nothing at home today :crying:
[Android General] avrupali17:
its like it
[Android General] Steven82:
looking at the cnet "review" (laughable) do you think it looks VERY plastic like? the back of the tablet dock looks shockingly cheap as well as the underside of the rear cover which makes me thing the battery cover is a very cheap looking material...
[Android General] scottmog:
Not sure what u r talking about, cnet asia should have the fulll review this week but yesterday night they still didnt have it. And unboxing or a review while at an expo is not a full review. Im really awaiting the full review, cnet asia just got an asua padfone on the 19th if i remember correctly.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
The sneak peek has been (mis)labeled as review on YouTube (not by CNet AFAIK).
[Android General] siggyzzz:
When I was in the US and used AT&T with my GSM Droid and Droid 2 (aka Motorola Milestone and Milestone 2) I only managed to get EDGE and the representative at the shop told me its a hit and miss so your chances are pretty much 50-50 I'd say!
[Android General] timboyce94:
Go to this page: www.asus.com/Mobile/PadFone/

Click on the specifications tab.

Look up the frequency bands needed for the network in question.

Done.

For example I know in AUS, the 900/2100 bands work well with Optus, but not Telstra unless we have the 850 band.
[Android General] Cyman:
more unboxing pics...

Here are some other unboxing pictures from another source....Seems that there are a few testers who already got the whole package yet.

http://www.agile-news.com/news-1348928-Mobile-tablet-notebook-fit-Asus-Padfone-out-of-the-box.html
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Looks like it - there is also @musicdiary teasing us on Twitter. :)

EDIT: And now he stopped teasing and wrote a short review. Not much new though, however he didn't like the camera too much: the quality is ok, but shutter and focus speed is slow.

It is a bit hard to see, but it looks like the charger has two USB ports - but on the photo there is only the micro-USB cable to charge the phone. I suppose there also should be one with the 40-pin connector for the station. Then it would make sense, you could charge the two seperately without having to put the phone in.
[Android General] Cyman:
Finally the review!

Finally, CNET Asia has published its review here: http://asia.cnet.com/product/asus-padfone-45863124.htm?src=twt

and another information I just got from a Taiwanese seller, who pre-ordered the phone for me: ASUS wrote him, that the release date will postponed again to Mai 15th-Mai20th

One week more, damn ASUS!
[Android General] DarkhShadow:
Don't believe anything CNET says, just a load of crap

Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
[Android General] blackhole.cyber:
tnx oka1 :D
[Android General] scottmog:
Unless ur an apple fanboy ofc. ;)

I try to be fair with cnet, but they just ride steve jobs even when hes in his grave.
[Android General] Smantanasiceapa:
looks nice :D
[Android General] Uziel126:
Really like the concept, but anyone else hesitating to get it because of the manufacturer? Never had any experience with Asus products but from what I hear their customer service leaves much to be desired.
[Android General] scottmog:
I had no problems with the transformer i owned a year ago, also i had an asus eee netbook for almost 4 years with no problems besides buying a new battery every year and a half
[Android General] scottmog:
But it doesnt mean i would like a little competition :)
[Android General] patrick_spd4u:
It weigh 1.5kg as a laptop (phone+tablet/station+keyboard), just 100gr lighter from my 13" laptop (Sony VAIO S), totally not worth it to bring around.

Even more expensive 13" laptop (Sony VAIO Z) weigh 1.1-1.2kg despite it has the Intel Core i7 processor.

It doesn't make sense to have a 1.5kg touchscreen-laptop that only has 10" screen and dual-core ARM processor, and running Android.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
I consider it running Android not as a negative but a positive aspect. Also, how long can your notebook be used in one session? Of course it can't keep up on sheer power, it is a completely different device suited for purposes your notebook can't serve.

If you compare an allrounder with specialized devices covering one of its aspects, it will almost certainly fall short. The Padfone also isn't the best mobile phone.
[Android General] scottmog:
I agree with planet jumble. It is an all around device that is exactly what im looking for.

I dont want a phone, tablet and laptop with three different systems and three different drives. First things first i want a nice 4inch+ phone with the ability to make it much larger when im at home or on the go. The keyboard dock makes it even more versatile by giving you more battery life (long plan rides) and a full keyboard for doing some more intense work.

My second gen i7 processer laptop is at home with the battery pulled out acting as my main computer all the time. I only bring the laptop if i really really need to.

Secondly, have you ever been in a meeting with your laptop out taking notes and u are getting text messages or phone calls on your phone that you want to answer? No you can discretely answer those sms's or text those people calling you without offending the person who is speaking...

For me, its all about the versatility...
[Android General] bluebobx:
Most companies in the same market have a rep for poor customer service, that's possibly because they rely a lot on forums, rather than someone on the end of a phone.

That said, the one time that I did have to use support (for an ancient motherboard who's HSF clips had broken) it was okay. Asus do seem to be able to produce quite high quality gear though (big fan of Asus motherboards).

Yep, I make the total weight to be 1493g (=640g (dock) + 624 (Station) + 129 (phone)). That said, how many phone calls can you answer on that Vaio? :p

Joking aside - there's the point - what's the battery life like on that Vaio? I'd guess at something in the range 3-5 hours. Which is pretty poor compared to the Asus. As to dual-core, it's been reportedly widely that this really isn't a big deal for Android, since most of the apps are single-core anyway.

So sure if

all

you want to do is run Office type apps then sure the Vaio's a "better" solution. On the other hand, as a "mobile office in one place" then I'll quietly argue that the Asus has it beaten solid.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
So you can sent your pics directly via wifi from your SD card to your Padfone :)
[Android General] XO:
Cant invest in an android tablet till google invest in their tablet UI. tablet apps ? not just stretched out phone apps :rolleyes:
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I don't know what you're talking about... many tablet apps are available in the market... uhm... google play :P
[Android General] cty.stuart:
you're quite right. unlike apple apps, many tablet compatible apps in google play are stretched phone apps. However, rest assured, we are already going towards their directions. eg. Google+, youtube, gmail apps, in fact most google apps are tablet specific. Now the table is turn to other developers, hopefully they will pull amazing tablet apps into Google Play
[Android General] SparkyRih:
wooow, psx emulator (FPse) has great support for dynamic switching! (only downside is that my opponent in tekken 3 goes on while the display is turning on XD)...
[Android General] xmacex:
I'm considering PadFone as my first Android device, i'm certain it wilbe cool especially when/if "Ubuntu for Android" will become available as I really don't want to quit Ubuntu. I've been happy with Asus EeePC 901+iPhone -combo, but looking for more toys and getting familiar with Android finally.

Looking forward to seeing the keyboard available for my locale. :)
[Android General] xmacex:
Oh yeah, a separate subform would be fantastic.
[Android General] commensal:
Nothing too! :crying:
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
It seems to me that the known battery indicator issue with Padfone appears only if the device is heating up or cooling down. At least I did not see it if Padfone's temperature is stable.

So I assume that this may be a thermal calibration problem.

Did anybody see this problem on a thermally stable phone?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I had the battery meter issue only with the padfone station meter when I was using it outside a couple days back, just normal temperatures...

Don't worry, just wait for an update...
[Android General] Kermode:
Apps can be programmed to scale accordingly, its an Apple greed trick to get people to buy two different versions of the app.

No thanks, I'll want ONE app, just as long as it adapts itself to the resolution it is running under.
[Android General] amtzone:
i cant wait for ASUS Padfone to have its own thread...:highfive:
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Well then you don't have to wait because you are right on it! :D

I on the other hand would like to split up this monolithic thread into smaller ones in an own sub forum - not literally split up this existing one, but the future discussions. But I guess the mods want proof of existing development first - they probably consider this unborn yet.
[Android General] oroo708:
JB is out. guess when does Asus make OTA for our device?? :fingers-crossed:

---------- Post added at 12:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 PM ----------

so what do u have in mind??

how about we start from here
[Android General] phoxy84:
Q4 according to an atricle in this thread...

My problem with pchome is solved, I get my dock. Great service!
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
Is it possible to specify an app as the default if it doesn't give a choice (via link or in Apps)? I want to have Nokia Maps as default because Google Maps are ****e in Finland.
[Android General] Rekka00:
Haha, exactly what I use it for. any adapter made for linux 2.4+. If I could find it in china after only 1 hour and it is everywhere online it should be simple, Also the apple one works too but I hate them so i didnt buy that one. :cool:
[Android General] Rekka00:
HDMI works fine! Just make sure it is "FULLY" inserted. look at the depth of the usb compared to other cables... the hdmi is the same.
[Android General] commensal:
Today is THE DAY?
[Android General] zechrisd:
I hope ...
[Android General] phoxy84:
Can you charge the padfone with an iPad wall charger?
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
No, it's slightly wider. The TF101 charger is the same though.
[Android General] sweatbox:
not sure why does you have to put the phone into the tab? we habe times of wifi bluetooth and nfc! so you can get phoneaccess via that. but well its maybe good for something
[Android General] 3mL:
:confused: Not sure if serious..
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I can give you 1000 and 1 reasons why we want to do this! XD

I have a questin though, I can't download "tablet only" apps on the Google Play? Am I missing a setting or something?
[Android General] commensal:
Fustrated?
[Android General] Someone09:
I only have one tablet only app installed currently. But obviously it worked.

I think I installed while being docked.

Can you give an example of another tablet only app? I´ll see if I can get it installed then.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
It's the app RTL Nieuws 365 (Dtuch), I can't even find it in the market (when the phone is docked) and when I search via my desktop it sais that it's not compatible wit the Asus Padfone...
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Apps can include or exclude devices on a number of parameters. The developer might just have been too restrictive in his setup. Just mail him!
[Android General] SparkyRih:
It's an app from pretty much the biggest news network in the netherlands, i mailed them, and they can't send me the APK, they don't want to set different parameters, they cna't do anything for me...
[Android General] starrwulfe:
They have an iPad app? And by that I mean an iOS app that specifically has iPad tablet views?
[Android General] cty.stuart:
you can add any app to be tablet only app u know?