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[Android General] PlanetJumble:
You can't just count the cores, not even pure clock rates, don't be mislead! The Snapdragon S4 is much faster than current generation dual-cores at 1.5 GHz (and like I said, also beats Tegra 3 in most cases). And at the end of the year, the OMAP5 will probably trounce it also with two cores!

Tegra 3 is not what you may think it is. It sure is a vast improvement to Tegra 2, but it is based on old architecture. Wait for in-depth reviews in the coming weeks! We will then see real world comparisons between the chipsets (in tablet mode for the Padfone). Then you can judge if Asus' decision was stupid. :)

That is hardly a new development tied to MWC, and ASUS is not to blame for the greed-based inflexibilities of providers. But you can argue that the Padfone is even less two devices than the Atrix plus lapdock - because the former does run one and the same operation system (even the same instance), only in different resolutions. While the Atrix switches to a crippled Linux distribution.
[Android General] Lennyuk:
The s4 benches higher than any tegra 3 device out at the moment this is why Asus chose to use it.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Android General] nobody123:
Windows 8

Do you think it is possible to migrate Windows 8 on the padfone?

I think it will be a great combo. Microsoft is going to release windows 8 on arm but i can't estimate if the driver are avaiable and if there is certain bios needed.
[Android General] Lennyuk:
Possibly, especially of Asus release a similar speced windows device. I am more interested in getting Ubuntu for android onto it though.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I just tried to install it on my vmware server, but it doesn't allow me to... so I guess I wil try sometime on my laptop when I'm home (because I only have my Transformer with my XD)

It's so annoying that I have to wait for PayPal to send me my codes so that I can add my bank account to it, after that I an finally but it!
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
I don't think this is the best place to gather the most basic information about Windows 8. You can find that most anywhere else quite easily. In short, to conclude this here:

The Padfone will not run Windows 8, ever.

Windows 8 on a mobile device will not run any of the Windows programs you know, only specific Metro apps.

The public preview from yesterday is for X86/X64 PCs only, there will be no such thing for mobile devices, only preinstalled.
[Android General] olly230:
there are rumors about dual boot thats all i know. Not I have checked the news I'm checking out the pre release win8 details
[Android General] Someone09:
Well, since that Asus is going to present their first dual boot Transformer in a couple of days, I kinda doubt the Padfone will be to do that, too.

At least not in stock mode.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Seriously, Asus has been working for many months to make an OS that runs on almost any device and resolution out of the box work on the Padfone in a switchable way. Windows 8 will have a tablet version, for phones there still is Windows Mobile, which they insist on is not the same and will not be (for some time at least).

There already is little substance to the Padfone debate on the net. Most by far is composed by opionion of like or dislike, since Asus only gives out information in homeopathic doses. As my contract is about to run out and I do not see any alternatives on the market for my needs I am pretty hungry for any really interesting information. But when I click on that subscription update link, all I get is people figuring they could run their favourite Windows programs on it just because Microsoft did fiddle with tablets.

Windows 8 for tablets has its roots in Windows Mobile 7 for sure. They took the (IMHO butt ugly) design and forced it into the rest of the Windows base, replacing the start menu with Metro. Metro apps aren't even really Windows programs at all! On dektops, you will have two glued together OSes trying to interact seamlessly (on which they mostly fail miserably). On tablets, you will have only one half of that, which is named after the desktop OS but really doesn't have anything to do with it. If for any reason I bought a tablet that featured dual boot, I wouldn't even be tempted to try.
[Android General] Someone09:
True.

And I can only speak for myself, but there are only 3 things left that need to be implemented (properly) into Android for me to forget about Windows on a mobile device:

- Implemented (easy to use) printer support.

- A completely functional MS Office substitute (which is not really a Android issue but rather a non-Windows issue)

- Better and easier to use multitasking
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Totally aggree with the first one...

The second one, agreed, I read somewhere that Microsoft is working on an Office for Android...

And the third one, that one, I like the multitasking in Androi (but that's my personal opinion)...

I just tried Win8 on my 15.6 inch laptop, but I don't like it so far...

Please PayPal send me my verification code so that I can buy the padfone! XD
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
There is an app called Printer Share, it's quite expensive (about $15, I got it free on an Amazon free app of the day deal), but it lets me connect to any of the printers at work (and even downloads the correct driver for it!) and print to it.

I can't say if it's good for bulk printing, as I haven't ever felt the urge to print more than a test SMS off the phone, but it seems to work fine.

Also, something something Google Cloud Print?
[Android General] Someone09:
Yeah, but only rumors so far.

I thought this only works with WiFi connected printers?
[Android General] 3mL:
Why do you debate whether or not Windows 8 will come to Tablets? This is about Padfone not Windows 8 or printers...:confused:
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Let's get back on topic than :P

Is it possible to use two different launchers?

Like SPB Shell 3D for phone, but when you dock it, can it switch to the default launcher?
[Android General] justhahaha:
Pad station not working

Hiii guys

Just got my padfone and pad station , I charged my pad station fully and then inserted my padfone into the pad station but nothing happens on the pad , plss help ???
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Sadly, no. Chester Tan tried something like this on my request, and he found out there isn't two but one default launcher to set. And when you do, it will be closed on dynamic switch just like any other app, returning to stock launcher. It will have to be specifically adapted to Padfone in order to work, I hope Asus will release an SDK for dynamic switch soon.
[Android General] DarkhShadow:
Stupid question, did you turn the tablet on?

Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
[Android General] exitido:
unplug the ac adaptor from the tablet first
[Android General] Cyman:
No Camera after root

Oups. I successfully rooted my Padfone but now I can't use the Camera - it always force closes, ooups;) Gues I'll have to wait till the PadFone is offically available in the western world so there will be mods and roots;)
[Android General] dimitriossara:
Hi

Does anyone know about the release date in Europe?

I can't wait anymore
[Android General] exitido:
Asus Iberia, says that the asus padfone will arrive in december to Spain.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
No way?
[Android General] 3mL:
22 June here in Sweden.
[Android General] exitido:
Yes, this is because spain its more africa than europe.

I will import the asus padfone from the first country from the European Union that have the padfone.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Just bought a full set via Taiwan... So I probably still have to wait a week...
[Android General] jwcurry83:
necks nestij

Personally I have been buying ASUS products for years and I have never been disappointed... this phone/tablet looks promising.
[Android General] olly230:
Join the imminent arrival excitement club
[Android General] mafiarock93:
this device seem very good,just like lapdock on motorola devices
[Android General] cty.stuart:
you can have 2 launchers running simultaneously. but no function to set which is which when you dock

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remove and replace?

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identical

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the microsd card slot is in the phone itself, not station, unlike the transformer series. kinda understandable, cuz what they wanna promote is less syncing, all in one storage, thus in your phone
[Android General] ando roido:
Can anyone confirm that?

Damn I am so tired of no hackers working on PadFone that I must start selling them on eBay.
[Android General] Someone09:
Just to get this straight: The station has no storage card slot at all, right?

There´s the one on the phone and the one on the keyboard, right?

Not like I would need more, just got a bit confused. ;)
[Android General] MrChad:
Looks great imo. Can't wait to try it out.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Micro-SD inside the phone, Full sized SD (but also micro if you use an adapter) on the keyboard...

I hope my package was shipped today, my seller only contacted me to confirm some details on my request...
[Android General] lucifer_hunter:
Need a case for mine.. just ordered the original case.. but not too happy with it...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
by the sound of it, i take it that you own a padfone already? =)
[Android General] olly230:
Nope not yet. Turns up in the next couple of days
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Be ready for a LOT of boxes. They have one for each component....
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Why not？
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Please stop it! I can't take it anymore XD
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Lol ok ok
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Haha, just kidding XD

@olly230: Where did you get it, if I may ask?
[Android General] qifa:
is there anyone here got his padfone from starhub singapore?
[Android General] olly230:
I don't exactly know! LOL

i had a mate going back to Taiwan for his wedding and honeymoon. I jokingly asked him to get me a padfone whilst over there and he said yes!

He got in touch saying £520-540 for phone, station and stylus so jumped at the chance.

He's not back yet but will be soon.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Yeah, my package is send! should be deliverd in about 4-5 days according to EMS :D
[Android General] commensal:
I try to. My father-in-law is in singapore actualy for business and ask him if he can buy me one. I'm waiting his answer. I'm from France and it's interested for us because 1€=1,60$SG actually. Starhub have the Padfone in exclusivity but i thing little shops could have been delivered in few devices. I found that phone+station was around 800$SG in Starhub but can't find this price on their site.

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What about duty on imports?
[Android General] phoxy84:
Where did you order yours?
[Android General] cty.stuart:
i think phone itself is already 800 sgd... it all totals up to almost 800GBP for prices in singapore
[Android General] SparkyRih:
They've send the package as a GIFT so that should mean I don't have to pay anything, but if they check my package, I have to pay 19% duty over half the price...

Look on your countries ebay for funnybom...

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/NEW-Unlocked...6?pt=NL_Mobiele_telefoons&hash=item3f161cfce2
[Android General] phoxy84:
Thanks! Please let me know the outcome. If the phone is working in Holland, is the package came and if you had yo pay the duty :) I am very interested in the padfone as well.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
You never know if you have to pay it if you sent something like this as a gift... but I will let you know...

And why wouldn't it work over here? All the bands are supported here...

Edit: lol, I didn't see the flag when I replied to your previous post :P
[Android General] phoxy84:
LOL, the WCDMA band is 900/2100, T-Mobile is 1800. Vodafone is 900.... 1800 has only 2g.

Cellular+Networks:

WCDMA

HSPA+ UL:5.76 Mbps/DL:21 Mbps

3G :

WCDMA :

900/2100

2G :

EDGE/GPRS/GSM : 850/900/1800/1900
[Android General] vtec_:
Anyone know what DAC is in this? Will be a big factor in whether to get this or the S3
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I called T-Mobile (since that's the SIM that will be in the padfone), they say didn't know about the frequencies... the service employee could only tell me they use 1800 (but that's a 2G band), as far as I know we all use 2100MHz for 3G...
[Android General] phoxy84:
Ok, hope it will work. I have to wait a while, money.... :(
[Android General] cty.stuart:
I went to Amsterdam with my padfone a few days ago, and it worked perfectly fin. All the way up to hspda+
[Android General] phoxy84:
With Vodafone I assume? They are on the 900 network, T-Mobile on 1800

Edit: I think T-Mobile uses 2100 for 3g, so it shouldn't be a problem I hope....
[Android General] SparkyRih:
2100 is used for all providers in our country as far as I know...

Let's see what bands my SGS2 has.........
[Android General] cty.stuart:
precisely :)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Very big chance I will just be fine... I'm pretty sure that it's the 2100 band that we use for 3G...

And I'm able to end my subscription with T-Mobile anytime... so I can switch to Vodafone whenever I want... I see they even have higher speeds (but also higher prices and lower data limits compared to my current subscription :P )....

My package will come with flight CI6441 :P but it leaves tommorow (I guess Taiwan time)...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
BOXES :D
[Android General] SparkyRih:
My friends are all hoping that they sent me bricks instead of the PadFone XD
[Android General] cty.stuart:
no i'm like serious... look at the pic.... they really bump the cost of delivery up from taiwan =(
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Shipping costs were included in my price, and they sent all the boxes in one package...

You can actually see some guy unboxing it on youtube who bought it from the same seller...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
yea.. i contacted the guy on youtube, he said he got his from the same ebay link posted earlier. i believe yours is phone+station+dock+stylus only right?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Yeah, the full package... I really hope the stylus is still included with the station...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
it shud do if it's stated in the ebay. however, when i contacted the telco in taiwan, everything is sold as seperate entity. best to check with seller.

full set should include all the 4 above + original asus leather cover for padfone btw. i checked on ebay, seemed that you have to spend another 50GBP or so if you order from them =(
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Let's wait :)
[Android General] qifa:
try go this site hardwarezone.com.sg to and search for padfone, i cant post link here

Some guys in sg already have the set, but complaint the phone upper body is warm, do u guys phone got this problem?
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Kinda... after 1hour non stop hardcore gaming
[Android General] Someone09:
Two more question to the lucky bas...erm...kind guys on here that already have their padfone.

I suppose some of you have had the TF101 before the Padfone, so I was wondering how´s the headphone volume compared to the TF101?

And how´s the station´s display brightness compared to the TF101?
[Android General] qifa:
think that shld be normal for gaming.

i quite trust asus techno.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Indeed
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Headfone volume almost identical. But asus claim padfone has input from sonic master, which i didnt quite notice with normal headfones. U might need dr dre headphones to justify on that. However, speaker on padstation has significant improvement from tf101. Richer bass but not rich enuf for me. More 3d sound but then again how much can u expect from a tablet as of now.

Brightness is improved with padfone due to super amoled. You can note the differences under sunlight. However, in my opinion, despite with super amoled, padfone still deserves some room for improvement.

Yes i am proud to be the lucky bas :p
[Android General] Someone09:
The Padfone and the Station both have Super AMOLED displays?

Kinda missed that second part. ;)
[Android General] jlyne1234:
The station has a Super IPS+ I believe
[Android General] commensal:
What's the price exactly in SG for phone+ tablet. Is it possible to find it somewhere else than Starhub? I've read that it was avalaible in authorised dealers...

Thanks.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
No.. no plus... and it's not ips... it's super amoled pentile display. The official video of padfone released earlier indicated super ips+ but mwc in February confirmed super amoled.

My set certainly: both phone and station super amoled
[Android General] cty.stuart:
800 sgd for phone...another 690 plus minus for the docks and pen and station. Officially it's announced as available on Starhub only... but i wont deny any possibility of individual phone vendors selling it at small amount. This happened in taiwan.
[Android General] 3mL:
Super Amoled with Pentile on the phone

TFT IPS on the station.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Sorry my mistake... ur right.. it's tft on station. Attached is official specs from asus website
[Android General] olly230:
Ok confused now.

People are saying different things and as its asus I don't trust the official specs fro their site.

cty.stuart has the device and says they are both AMOLED

Proof?
[Android General] cty.stuart:
No i clarified. It's superamoled on phone and tft on station...
[Android General] olly230:
so backlit?
[Android General] Florian-s:
hey guys...

i want to buy the padfone when it releases in one of the european countries. does anyone know where the padfone arrives first? is it possible to pre-order it in one of the european country? I've heard the release is near in italy or sweden? does anyone know an exact date?

I can't wait anymore... :)
[Android General] Someone09:
But only IPS, right? Not Super IPS?
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Yes bcklit

I only know it's tft. Not sure it's super ips or not. If u can tell me how can i run any test on my padfone to tell u, do let me know. I could check it for u.

Sorry couldn't be of much help
[Android General] Someone09:
Well, on the TF200 (which has a Super IPS I think) there is a special display setting in the quick settings. Something like "Super IPS".

If you have this option, too, it would be a pretty good sign for the Padfone (station) having a Super IPS display. ;)

If not...it´s still possible. lol

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I think the next countries on the list should be Australia and Sweden. Then Italy, UK and hopefully Germany.

At least those are my most recent informations.

I havn´t found any shop that has it up for Preorder in Germany, yet.

But there have been shops in the UK reported to have it ready to be preordered.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
see attached. it only offers outdoor and normal mode change

i supposed we have the answer now don't we?
[Android General] Someone09:
Could be...

Or they just renamed "Super IPS" to "Outdoor". lol

But anyway. Thanks for the screeny. ;)
[Android General] UserDemos:
Anyone in the US using the Padfone?

What carrier? What kinds of speeds do you get? Signal quality?

Want to grab one, but need info on performance with our carriers.
[Android General] qifa:
Below is extract from starhub newsroom website:

"-

ASUS PadFone will be available at $800 without contract. Customers who want the PadFone Station can simply top up $328. Other accessories such as the PadFone Station Dock and the PadFone Stylus Headset will be priced at $228 and $128 respectively. The PadFone and its accessories will be available at all StarHub Shops and authorised dealers from 2 June 2012. StarHub customers who pre-order the PadFone together with the PadFone Station between 25 May and 31 May 2012, will receive the PadFone Station Dock and the PadFone Stylus Headset for free.

-"
[Android General] NicHXP:
Nice design. Hope to see the real thing.
[Android General] ando roido:
Was it just temporary problem or can anyone confirm that?

I have had camera force close once already without root.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Definitely temporary. Mine hasn't got any problem... not rooted
[Android General] timboyce94:
OMG! I've been watching this device and trying to hold off buying outright, waiting to see when (if?) it gets released in australia in 'july' if there are suitable contracts that would be more beneficial to me.

Now one thing I thought would be great about this is to use it as a sorta desktop OS as well... Now maybe at some point in the distant future ubuntu for android will be released and then hacked on, also maybe the hdmi port could be hacked to allow basic mirroring (something apparently lacking according to some places online) to displays (not tablet dock), but ASUS has now announced this:

ASUS shows off a docking monitor built for the PadFone

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/07/asus-padfone-docking-monitor-hands-on/

OMFG! This phone is so perfect I just wanna cry, can't wait until it hits Australia and hope there are some good contracts rather then just released outright in Aus after waiting this long already.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
That's awesome! :D
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Tats a good share... thanx lot. However, bear in mind it's only 1.5... is it sufficient to carry a full desktop responsibility?
[Android General] timboyce94:
what's only 1.5, sorry?

About it carrying a full desktop responsibility, not in terms of replacing say a gaming PC or a HTPC, but for general usage (we browsing, communication, document processing, etc.) I think android would be fine.

Also, come to think of it, what would probably be better is simply a desktop dock with video out, usb ports, etc, if only because then it's portable and can be taken to anywhere there's a screen and you can choose your own screen, but this is still awesome, who knows what it can give way to.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Yes... albeit its a dual core :)

Yeah d dock would be cool. In fact the.original dock is already cool :D awesomeeee!
[Android General] timboyce94:
Aah 1.5 as in the processor, now I know what you meant :)

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Well this is... 'interesting' :

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/...docking_monitor_debuted_at_computex_2012.html

The bit I'm referring to that jumped out at me is this:

"In terms of pricing we’re hearing mixed reports – although the general consensus seems to be around the $900 mark, which does make it one very expensive accessory."

That seems way too high for what it is. A 1920*1200 monitor with hdmi/dvi/vga inputs, an inbuilt usb 3.0 hub, and a docking connector for the padfone. Should this really be $900?
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Is that USD? They aren't going to sell many at that price. Better off buying a separate PC and monitor.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Or just a Micro-HDMI cable! XD
[Android General] commensal:
One reason furthermore to buy it!! No need to multiply devices as we have all in one!!

Just the dock without monitor would be great.
[Android General] Zorigo:
Looks like a pretty good concept IMO, wish this padfone type thing was being done by more companies, coz then someone would come along and nail the specs and design and whatnot. I'm a big fan of AIOs

But this doesn't look to far off my ideal
[Android General] Florian-s:
Does the sequence come from you or did you read that somewhere?

My hope is a release in this month in a european country... than I will import it to germany! :D