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[Acer Iconia A500] Fumetsu:
Good news everyone!

In an earlier thread (the [DEV] Recovery/Config thread), I mentioned that my company has a large corporate account with Acer and I was going to work my contacts to try and contact Acer and bring attention to the bootloader issue.

In my initial message to them, I informed them that Acer has a reputation of being "hostile" to the development community, reputations that the Xoom and the Transformer do not have. Specifically, I stated we needed the kernel source, which they're required to provide per the GPL, and for the bootloader to be unlocked so that we could load custom recovery and images. I told him that several people have stated they have returned the Iconia because it wasnt friendly for development, and that the developers and "power users" in this community have a vested interest in seeing development thrive and seeing the device succeed. I had two contacts with Acer I had hoped would garner a response.

Today, I received a response from one of those contacts, the Senior Product Manager of Notebooks, Tablets and Netbooks for Acer America.

While I can't post his contact information or the full text of his response (he was not empowered to speak publically on behalf of the company), he was able to share a bit of information with me that I can relay.

To summarize:

- Acer is aware of the community's reaction to the locked bootloader and unreleased kernel. They saw what went on with HTC's bootloader fiasco and they are now discussing their policy internally.

- They view the perception of the Iconia in the Android development and enthusiast community as very important.

- While he couldn't give me any specifics, he did reassure me that he is actively working with his team to find how quickly they can address the bootloader/kernel issues with the Iconia and what specific actions they would take.

So they are aware of the issue and they are working to correct it. He gave me both his work and personal contact information and he said he'd keep me posted of updates.

My personal guess is that there is more involved in the decision than just the Acer America team, but at least they're aware of the negative perception and they're taking steps to correct it.

I'll keep you all advised as I find out more, but I'm happy to see progress being made! There's still hope yet. :)
[Acer Iconia A500] nycbjr:
excellent, I believe there is an open petition thread (in general) that you may want to forward on to him, might give more ammo with the higher ups!

Good work my friend!
[Acer Iconia A500] SmittyRN:
That's an encouraging response, kudos to Acer for hiring the guy. Too many times you get the basic canned response that goes something like "we know what we are doing, so suckit and deal with it". And good job, Fumetsu, on what sounds like a well thought out and worded request for info in the first place.

This give me hope that I'll be able to get flash-happy with my A500 in the future, even though I bought it knowing that I would probabaly be getting something else later in the year. Honeycomb just doesn't have all the dev potential that I've seen with my GTab, Nook, and Inspire...... but one can always dream. :D
[Acer Iconia A500] azraeljarah:
Very good news indeed. I just want to be able to use stock Honeycomb, or Ice Cream Sandwich when that's available, without all the 'extra' software and apps that are generally unnecessary. From a business view it seems like they could have saved quite a bit of money and time if they had left the bootloader unlocked in the first place. All they would need to do is host their own update files online for people that want them and leave the rest to the Dev community. Just my thinking anyway. I feel like there is a large enough user base in the Android community that would justify an unlocked bootloader. I guess all we can do is wait and see what happens. =)
[Acer Iconia A500] mantrajt:
Nice. Thanks for your effort. Hope they do listen to Iconia users!!!

Enviado desde mi A500 usando XDA Premium App
[Acer Iconia A500] Fumetsu:
Thanks all. Although he was light on specifics it was a very encouraging response. I just hope they move fast, the market is growing rapidly and dev interest can wane for the "next big thing " and Acer can find itself trailing in the market, even if it has better hardware and potential.
[Acer Iconia A500] ibila:
nice, let's keep our fingers crossed for this.
[Acer Iconia A500] r3v0Lut10n:
i hope that something will happen soon ...
[Acer Iconia A500] mr.r9:
Can you tell him to (cough) leak something (cough)? :D

I had the Acer Liquid and we used to get leaks like crazy. But nothing for the Iconia:mad:
[Acer Iconia A500] diamond_cbr:
Hello

Very good news, I hope it's not only a commercial response :p

@+
[Acer Iconia A500] Rhyr:
Where I come from we say:

Those who live in hope dies shi**ing ... :-D

But I also hope that bootloader will finally unlocked :-)
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
acer driver page updated

On acers driver page they have in the last day or so added some content tabs. A place where os and updates will put available. So I do think they have some plans on atleast giving available to d/load recovery is and updates.I beloved this will come wyen or soon after they begin pushing 3.1 to our devices.everyone has spoken I think now its time tobsee if Acer comes thru.

Keeping gentle and responsible pressure in then not bashing and sending threats is prob best.

Just my two and ¼ pennies. Thanks all in the community

Blonde geeky chic

Erica renee
[Acer Iconia A500] JdgM3NT4L:
Pure speculation here... I think that I read somewhere that AT&T will be releasing an Acer Iconia Android a501 tab soon. Could that be why Acer has this policy? After all, AT&T is notorious about this sort of thing. My Atrix and I know this all to well.
[Acer Iconia A500] estate:
look here and join as much as possibile!

http://www.facebook.com/?m2w#!/home.php?sk=group_149462058455870&ap=1

Cross the finger me too...
[Acer Iconia A500] Fumetsu:
Hello!

Just to clarify, I didn't bash the Iconia or Acer itself, only that it is perceived as "hostile" to 3rd party developers. I actually took that "hostile" quote directly from a developer on these boards and compared development efforts with the Xoom and the Transformer. I made sure to stress that we have a vested interest in the success of 3rd party development on the Acer so that its perception as developer friendly in the community could be improved.

My initial contact and his response were cordial and respectful, so I don't believe he took it this way. I structured my contact with him stating that I felt the Iconia was a great product, had benefits the other Android tablets do not, has the distinction as of now being the fastest selling Android Honeycomb tablet, and that developers are eager to work with the device. He was quite clear that he valued the feedback and they wanted to and are working to address it.

We exchanged personal and business contact information so it was definitely a positive response.
[Acer Iconia A500] Fumetsu:
I wouldn't want to risk his position within Acer by asking for a leak. I told him that I would redact his contact info and would not directly quote his response because he is a business contact for my company and I don't want to jeopardize that relationship or get him in trouble with the company. He was clear that they know it is an issue and that he personally was working with his team to find out the best way to resolve it in the quickest manner possible. Knowing how big corporations work, it's not up to one man or I believe even Acer America itself, but I surmise there are higher level talks going on. His team is directly responsible for product development of tablets and netbooks and I believe he is in a prime position to move Acer towards resolution.
[Acer Iconia A500] Fumetsu:
It definitely wasn't a canned commerical response that one would get from T1 Acer Tech Support. If it was something I felt was said just to placate me or was just a generic statement, I would not have bothered posting this to get everyone's hopes up. It really gave me encouragement that they do see this as an issue and that he does want to help.
[Acer Iconia A500] UnicornKaz:
Didn't the Xoom went through the same thing regarding being released through a carrier with a catch of having to activated a plan? ... and later on got unlocked bootloader straight from MOTO ?

http://www.androidcentral.com/unlocking-motorola-xoom-bootloader-forums

:p

Each ones has its own potential... yet ruined by marketing greed... ( carriers $$$ gouging ) :mad: ...etc... ^^$$$^^

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20029411-1.html

I'm an Iconian "TYPE A" BTW :D

could you please sign it/vote it ...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1102690

... :D
[Acer Iconia A500] netham45:
Ask him why they haven't released the source yet, please.

To remain in compliance with the license, they'd have had to release it the same day as the bins. :|

I'm really starting to wish I waited for the transformer.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Valashtar:
Hello,

I recently took apart an original Motorola Droid just to see what it looked like inside, and to indulge my friend's curiosity (since it's technically her phone). Since I did that, the touchscreen no longer works at all. (which she's not wild about, though thankfully she does have another phone).

The glass on the screen is cracked, but the display assembly itself is fine. I made sure to put all of the connectors back in their right places, and even took the phone apart again to make sure that everything is assembled correctly.

Does anyone have any insights or thoughts on how to get the touchscreen working again? (Please? So my friend doesn't kill me?)
[G Tablet General] Puhn:
Okay, I know there are lots of posts about getting adb drivers to work on the g tablet but I can't seem to get to step 1. When I plug in my USB cable, my PC doesn't ask me to install anything. It just seems to assume that it is a USB drive. I tried to force the install via Install Hardware and pointed it to my modified android_winusb.inf file. When I did that it came up with three different options (Android ADB Interface, Android Bootloader Interface, and Android Composite ADB Interface). I tried all three but none of them will start successfully.

My cable connects to the mini-USB port (I have a keyboard connected to the full size USB port). I can't imagine that would make a difference, though.

I can copy files over to the g tablet from my PC; I just can't get ADB to work. What am I doing wrong?
[G Tablet General] raphenucleus:
First, you need to install the Android SDK on your computer. ADB shell is a program contained within the Android SDK. If you install the latest version, you also need to install "Android SDK Platform-tools" (launch the SDK and AVD Manager, then select the "Android SDK Platform-tools" package). You can connect the miniusb cable to your tablet and use adb shell, but I prefer to use adbwireless (free app in market); for some reason my computer won't recognize my tablet when connected via the cable. Then just open up cmd.exe (if you're using windows) and go from there. You'll need to locate the actual adb executable file, so you can run it in the command window. You'll also have to learn the commands as to how to do things, but lists of common commands can be found with a simple search.
[G Tablet General] nigangel:
I had problems with getting the debug usb drivers to install on a win7 dev machine. So I just installed adb wireless onto my gtab from the market. On my win7 box I just use 'adb connect x.x.x.x:port' to use adb over the wifi.

It's pretty handy.
[G Tablet General] Puhn:
I figured it out. For others that run into this, I had to uninstall the drivers with USBDeview. I only uninstalled the one with a description of NVIDIA Tegra 2 USB Device. The second half of this YouTube video shows what to do for a phone:

youtube.com/watch?v=1UF5w1dKe2U

Then disconnecting and reconnecting the USB cable installed the drivers correctly. Weird.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] jgalan14:
Ok so I'm probably spoil with my itunes on my iphone for podcast but I was wondering if there is anything like it in android I saw a few streaming podcast apps but I want then to download I usually listen to them while I drive so streaming might mess you sometimes or getting a call will interupt , thanks !
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] dwd3885:
Google Listen, BeyondPod, Dogg Catcher.

I use BeyondPod.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] jgalan14:
Is it worth the 7$ for the app can you download podcast and video podcast and stream play as well?
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] paulpenny:
BeyondPod for me too. Well worth the bucks.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] wild1z:
I use double twist as it syncs with my itunes.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] jgalan14:
That's cool I ma take a look to that , I just hate to have different music players
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] sawvellra26:
Google listen is my favorite. Use it to listen to missed lectures on the go
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] spiicytuna:
Digg catcher for me:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.snoggdoggler.android.applications.doggcatcher.v1_0

Sent on the go from my android device using Tapatalk
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] thiagodark:
i like google listen, cause it sync with your account, and as i'm always flashing roms, it's really nice don't worry about it...
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] jgalan14:
The sounds good but can you download podcast ? The interface looks boring

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ragnarokx:
+2 for BeyondPod
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] stillblood:
Goggle listen is simple but free and works very well. You can stream if you please but i always download. It will also delete after you listen
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] newspeak:
Most of the them you can download and stream at the same time.... Beyond pod and doggcatcher seem to be the favorites
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] thiagodark:
Yes, you can download the podcasts, actually you can define some rules to get it downloaded automatically...

The interface isn't something you can proud, but the app just works...
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] jgalan14:
Ha ha the interface !!! Lol I know most of the apps look better on iOS that's one thing google should work on tho, hopefully in the future, thanks for the info guys :D
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] thiagodark:
weird thing is 'listen' is made by google itself, i think it says pretty much... ehehe
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] tmcquake:
Beyondpod is my favourite, but Doggcatcher is very good as well. Both are worth what they cost and both will import your Google Reader and Listen subscriptions.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlt220:
This might be too unrealated and or too new of a topic or just impossible

Considering the new nook wifi is running android does anyone see a chance of getting sideloaded apps on there like the kindle app. I know someone who would love the new nook, but i don't think she could lose her kindle books.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthrottle:
My wife's having an issue where calls through the earpiece are hard to hear. You can hear an ambient sort of noise which sounds like its at normal volume but callers on the other end sound very quiet. She has resorted to putting every call on speaker to hear. Her mt4g is stock, non-modified/rooted. Any idea what the problem could be, or what I could try fix it? I tried searching, but the search on the mobile app isn't as easy to use as the full site.

Thanks!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicgraner:
Well this should be in Q&A but it sounds like hardware. Has she dropped in water or any other liquid? If not and you bought from tmo you should have a warranty to cover a replacement
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthrottle:
I bought it 2nd hand a month ago, so no chance of warranty replacement through tmo. Was hoping there'd be a fix available without having to wipe the phone. The water indicator is still white and there doesn't seem to be any physical damage.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] drhonk:
Nothing new .. still stock KD1 ROM. All I did was fixed Krylon's CWM KD1. Yes .. this one will flash without any issue. :)

Same credit as the previous thread goes to whitehawkx, luckyduck69, and joedev.

And special thanks to badb4lyfe for testing it. :)

Instruction:

- Put zip file in your /sdcard

- Reboot to cwm recovery

- Wipe Data/Factory Reset

- Wipe Cache Partition

- Then proceed with zip installation

NOTE (6/7/2011)

I've fixed both ROM and edify script, I've tested it several times and flashed without any issue. For dev, list of things I did to fix this:

1. amend2edify tools is nice, but still not 100% accurate. I had to change and add few things to make it work, especially the permission. The boot loop that happened to several of you was because of permission to some of the directories wasn't set correctly.

2. Install app from both market and adb should be fixed. For some reason, both cwm that krylon built and odin version chmod /data/app directory as 755 and owned by root. This needs to be 771 and both uid/gid needs to be system. For dev, if you add apk to /data/app on your ROM, make sure the file permission is correct .. other wise it will break app installation process.

3. OS FC due when enabling wifi was fixed as well.

Special thanks to robbbit for testing this fix and dsexton702 for finding out the final piece. Follow dsexton702 post for how to

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14536279&postcount=65

NEW UPDATE (6/9/2011):

As promised, I've updated the zip with kernel and modem this time. Also included few updates and fixes:

- Kernel and Modem now included (sorry about that).

- Cleaned up edify script a little.

- Added permission check scripts to check files and directory permissions after installation.

- Replaced modded recovery with a proper modded recovery which was for sgs4g.

Download:

http://www.multiupload.com/A15DHFQ97T
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] corradokng:
You are friggin awesome...not to get started....:)

Thanks!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
so its similar to hawks just flashable?? ill flash anyway to test if theres a noticeable difference
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] corradokng:
Yes same thing.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
Chalk another one up for Drhonk. Great work and thanks a bunch.

sent from MT. OLYMPUS using my kickass sgs4g.

THE GODS ENVY US!!!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] wrecless:
This is cool I guess but why are you wasting your time and talent on this BS lol excuse my french but we have had KD1 for a while now and we are feenin' for some GB
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] drhonk:
Well .. if you want to keep using ODIN ..then be my guest. I created this to help other start their own custom ROM. As for GB .. continue waiting because it will be awhile before SGS4G get GB.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Because not everyone wants to use Odin or heimdall everytime they soft brick their phone during testing AND not everyone wants to do a CWM restore they might want a fresh start without having to go to their computer

ALSO

now we have a a rom to build on that's not the kb5 or kc1
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] corradokng:
Wow, well I guess I can make you a tar of the next ROM then.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mtrujillog1:
i just flash it and am stack for like 30 min. in the first boot screen any suggestions i can put it in download mode and use odin to flash tar again i will post results later on.. btw am a noobe in this matter lol
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
Some folks are never satisfied.

sent from MT. OLYMPUS using my kickass sgs4g.

THE GODS ENVY US!!!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] woodmanskinsfan:
Yeah! C'mon already, where's the. Ice Cream Sandwich ROM??? :-P
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] corradokng:
Well unfortunately this is not working for me, I am getting surface flinger errors in logcat. Same thing happens when I Deodex and dump rom. Had to odin back.

Anyone have any success?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mtrujillog1:
i try it like 4or 5 times and same result at the end stuck in the first boot screen for ever.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Drhonk can you remake the zip there are some slight problems :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] drhonk:
Don't deodex and dump the rom again ... this ROM is already Deodexed and added permission script to prevent it from boot loop. Auto deodexer doesn't use permission script and for some reason sgs4g doesn't like that.

Were you able to flash this ROM, unchanged .. and boot from it?

Make sure you wipe before flashing (wipe factory reset and wipe cache partition from cwm)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Lick My Toes:
i was wondering if anyone else had this problem..

rom flashed and boots fine. but when i go to install ANY APP, it proceeds to

download said app,

attempts to install

while installing the phone starts to vibrate (one vibrate, then 3)

then a black screen where the buttons on the bottom lights up

then it kicks me back to lockscreen.

no app installed no nothing. i was wondering if it was just me, or is this happening to anyone else?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] drhonk:
I smell more permission issues, I can't really test until the test phone arrives ..
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mtrujillog1:
after wipe factory reset and wipe cache partition from cwm installation when smooth but freezing when i try to install apps from marker or sd card. saame thing that it happens to Lick My Toes.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] silverspoon80:
no ****! do u pick up a Rx pills and just eat whatever is in it, too?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjumawan:
Does anybody know well be able to take advantage of the HTC watch .that new movie app HTC came out with .without having to buy new phone ?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stefan_lewinger:
Ive looked a numerous threads adressing this issue and have not found a solution...

I need to upgrade to .92 but it's not working. It says it cannot find the image and a couple things flash on the screen too fast to read and nothing happens

I have tried everything:

1. reformatted the SD Card multiple times

2. renamed the file to PB31IMG (.zip and not .zip)

3. and every other suggestion

Please help
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheWhiteBandito:
Redownload it from doug piston's website here http://dougpiston.com/files/Hboot/PB31IMG-hboot-0.92.0000.zip rename it to PB131IMG.zip, put it on the root of your fat32 formatted sdcard, and flash through hboot

Sent from my HTC Incredible
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stefan_lewinger:
Done....still nothing. It see's the file-almost like it wants to work- but then, nothing...

Why is this so hard? I've done everything else one could do to a phone and everything has worked perfectly. This, NO.

Any other suggestions?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stefan_lewinger:
Ive heard that the newest version of Unrevoked3 will give you HBoot .92. If i'm already rooted can I re-root via Unrevoked??
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
I don't think it'll give you that, are you S-ON or S-OFF? It'll say at the top when you're in HBOOT.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stefan_lewinger:
im S-ON. How do i go about changing that
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
Here. Under Installation Instructions section. If you're rooted already, there's a zip file to download and place on the root of the SD card. The directions will explain how to do it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stefan_lewinger:
Finally! Thanks, that worked.

And for everyone else who is having trouble uprgadring to HBoot .92:

Make sure you haves-off! Maybe this seemed to bonehead for people to suggest but it surely was my problem. Just flash the Unrevoked zip posted above....THEN go through the typical Hboot steps everyone suggests.

Cheers
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
Very nice dude! Enjoy!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicgraner:
Hey guys I was curious if anyone has had a chance to own or extensively use the new sidekick and if anyone has if they like it etc as I'm thinking of switching out my MT4G any ideas on switch don't switch?