yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] LayzeeEyez:
Oh they confirmed it there? Ah, shoulda gone with a number past 3 imo

EDIT: And I'm not crazy, I'm crayzee.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bdizzel1982:
I remember hearing a while back that it was rummored to be 2.4 but I have not seen that confirmed anywhere. :D

Google I/O Keynote

12:51PM Curiously enough, Google just mentioned Ice Cream Sandwich again without a version number. Hmm.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jjwatmyself:
Possibly tablet OS vs. non-tablet? I don't know if iOS 4 tablet is the same code as non-tablet iOS 4. Is there such a thing as a non-tablet Android phone that runs Honeycomb?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
Tons of phones run ported versions of Honeycomb
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
So once again like I speculated earlier it will be released at first in the nexus 3 and probably be 4.0 I'ce cream

Sandwhich

sent from my gingerblur v4 atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] NguyenHuu:
i hope we can theme it still haha, i prefer the original gingerbread look, not feeling the blue blur colors. hope it's out soon, but root is definitely a must. hope the devs can figure this it out for us.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
I think that's a given. With kenneth already having his hands on it almost guarenteed

sent from my gingerblur v4 atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jjwatmyself:
Cool! Thanks. :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cocchiararo:
that souns like beeing courtesy of the PENTILE MATRIX, same stuff the nexus one and the galaxy S line had for their amoled screens, and was upgraded on the samoled+
[Atrix 4G Android Development] slimslim:
The gradient banding has little to do with the pentile screen. I often get them when I use CS 3 and have different results in Photoshop using the same monitor. Its the dpi, resolution, color depth and many times even the jpeg/png compression used.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bl0wf1sh:
Did not know that you don't have a webtop accessory. My apologies.

Let's just hope then that the webtop SW is a bit updated by then :P

And I agree with your assessment, given how unoptimized your build is, I do not even think this will still be out in June. July seems a lot more likely, and even that may be a bit of a stretch, given how "fast" Moto pushes out updates compared with other phone manufacturers...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gutterball:
Yeah I know this and have it set for never sleep but it still constantly drops! Took me forever to get plants vs. zombies from amazon the other day cause it keeps disconnecting!

By the way when we get ice cream sandwich does that mean I will have a phone and also a tasty dessert when I need it?! Yummy cant wait!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mjh60:
What frozen yogurt isn't a tasty dessert?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ceo.mtcl:
Ha ha, you made me so anxious that I bought a nexus s from craigslist two hours before and installed a custom rom already.

I will sell this nexus s once gingerbread comes out on atrix lol
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ChongoDroid:
I hope nexus3 will be att aka fido :P

Sent from my Googletron
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Someones gunna leak this really soon
[Atrix 4G Android Development] josuetenista:
Me too, In Ecuador we use same 3G bands as At&t's
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stvmac11:
grooveshark

Any chance that Grooveshark works on it?

(current problem - songs don't stream, only offline mode can play songs)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
Nexus 3 will most def be att because by then tmobile will cease to exist

sent from my gingerblur v4.5 atrix with motokeyboard
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cocchiararo:
it could be sprint :p
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ultra Droid:
I *never* knew that, about the two different types of SBF files! Thanks for the information! :)

-Mike
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jjwatmyself:
Ken, your number one fan here. :D Anyway, do you have access to a Atrix vehicle dock? If so, please mount the phone and test if the fat finger button for Music will launch Music 3.0. Wondering if Moto have updated the car dock code to work with the newer version of the Music app. Thanks.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] beatphreek:
You can bring up the car dock app without docking it. I just use anycut to make a shortcut to it since I just use a bluetooth connection and didn't need a dock.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Jotokun:
Considering the Nexus S 4G is on sprint, the next nexus phone WILL be on sprint. Although there'll probably be an AT&T compatible version for non-US GSM markets.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
Yea ok lol. In all actuality it will be GSM first Google explicitly has stated the nexus phone will be gsm then cdma

sent from my gingerblur v4.5 atrix with motokeyboard
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
What lol lol the nexus S has been on tmobile for a year and now it came out for sprint and att. The nexus is always a gsm device so its global. Then cdma gets it. So being as there will not be a tmobile in december it will be on att in us

sent from my gingerblur v4.5 atrix with motokeyboard
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ultra Droid:
Well, that's something to look forward to, anyway. :)

-Mike
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
Yes it is. Now the question is nexus 3 or atrix 2???

sent from my gingerblur v4.5 atrix with motokeyboard
[Atrix 4G Android Development] holtenc:
im gonna have to go with nexus 3. atrix 2 (if there even is such a thing) will have the same lock down as the current atrix but probably worse. yeah yeah I know moto "says" they will be unlocking bootloaders. I'll believe it when I see it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] hosmsdos:
Question, touch screen

Can you check if touching screen with one finger more that 15 sec will cause screen to freeze, its annoying when playing games.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] steevquinn:
how can you make claims about something you just made up? "it WILL have the same lock down as the current atrix"?? Really, do you work for Moto or are you just a wizard?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
That's not a given Motorola had stated they will be loosening the reigns so its totally plausable that the atrix 2 will have an unlocked bootliader. Even though they have yet to show any indication of moving in that direction

sent from my gingerblur v4.5 atrix with motokeyboard
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
SOMEONE PLEASE LEAK THIS ALREADY!!

How the heck did Brief Mobile get a hold of it? They don't work for Motorola! Why can't we have it if they have it? I don't understand. Gingerbread for the Atrix is in unofficial hands, so it should be leaked kind of soon I'm hoping. But I'd expect it to be out in the air by now...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Vangelis13:
Are you for real dude? Go have a beer & chill out a bit, will ya..
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gordonson:
Kenn (The OP and someone who works for Brief Mobile) already said that he has no intention of leaking it and that its just a rather sluggish beta that he has his hands on at this point anyway.

Calm down bro.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bongd:
Exactly. Honestly, if this was leaked I wouldn't even go through the trouble to flash it. Not worth the lag and stuff.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the2dcour:
People are leaking it, go cultivate a solid relationship with someone at Motorola like Kenneth has done and get leaks from them. What would you do with a pre-beta release anyhow? It wouldn't be particularly useful, stable, etc as an every day use phone. (yes I realize you are probably trolling)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
Yea, apparently Motorola is leaking this all over from its test crew. Another guy on Motorola's forum got the leak OTA'd to him from his buddy that works for Motorola. I assume it wasn't Kenneth as he asked how to take a screen shot. :D

(Still not 100% sure I believe him that he has it, but I can't prove otherwise)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mgamerz:
I know this is late but video chat is only in 2.3.4 and we are most likely getting 2.3.3 like most other phones currently are being upgraded to.

Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] msd24200:
I read that to
[Atrix 4G Android Development] brewstermax:
While this Gingerbread update looks absolutely amazing, especially after Motorola optimizes performance and whatnot, I am looking to the future. Because Ice Cream Sandwich would run beautifully on the Atrix, and I would be extremely happy if Motorola would upgrade us that far, even if they left us there. Gingerbread is an evolutionary update, but Ice Cream Sandwich (even though exact details are few and far between) has the potential to be revolutionary in the Android universe. I'm not going to complain about getting Gingerbread though! I just hope it comes before the end of the month! Come on Motorola!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ceo.mtcl:
I wanna get rid of my Nexus once this update comes out.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] leoiden:
others devices have atleast a leak gingerbread rom why not atrix 4g

com on someone with nerves of steal post it somewhere
[Atrix 4G Android Development] alijs:
as I know, Moto update policy is: they guarantee one further release for sure, while atrix shockingly came with froyo, Moto for sure is committed to give atrix users ginger but has no obligations to release beyond that (ice sandwich)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] yhe2x:
damn! I was hoping that we'll finally be able to take advantage of this phone's true power and full potential but if it wont support dual core optimization then its not a biggie for me and will probably pass
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kix08:
Wow just read through 16 pages and it reminded me so much of gingerblur thread so much(read the same thing over and over) come on people please take the time to read before asking and posting questions.

As far as the update goes just have patients and let our extremely smart Dev do what they do best. Kenn and the crew know what there doing they leak what they know when they can. There doing a fantastic job of keeping us posted just sit tight and hit refresh ;-)

Sent from my Ginerblured4.5 Cool blued2.2 Atrix4g
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mgamerz:
The atrix feels like windows xp 64 bit. Has the power but its pretty much never used. (Nor code for it)

Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lyon21:
Ken, do you know if the new gingerbread update will affect 2ndinit? Will they have to redo it or will it just work?

Sent from my rooted, gingerblured badass atrix!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] yungboss22:
hey guys, I found a video on youtube about benchmarks on gingerbread rom :) THIS IS AWESOME.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhdEeu3WUXA
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
how can you even tell its Gingerbread? I cant lol
[Atrix 4G Android Development] yungboss22:
I Dont know lol, look at the title ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
no like what if the dudes runniing froyo but states that its gingerbread?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] yungboss22:
If its not gingerbread, why the scores are highter than the stock froyo rom? ? Its weird
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
I sent him a message lol
[Atrix 4G Android Development] helfrez:
Lap Dock

I really wish there was someone who had this engineering rom that had a lapdock! The dock was absurdly overpriced, but I bought mine used for $120 and for the right price, the accessory is killer. I think it's worth more like $149.99 versus the stupid prices they sold for at launch.

That being said, the Firefox 3.6 is really bad and slow. If they would upgrade to 4.0 or even better, pull the firefox in favor of chrome, it would make all the difference in the world. If they really want these types of accessories to take of, they need to have some ability to update without the applications, this is where things like Chrome Web Apps could play a significant role.

If anyone wants to pass an engineering rom to me and a NDA, I could check it out. I really hope they didn't just leave the same setup in the Web Top.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the2dcour:
you haven't been around long enough to know a yungboss post when you see one...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sdlopez83:
Lol you hit the nail on the head
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Pat123:
Yea, but din't Google promise 18-month support for all current devices available?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Jotokun:
Google promised support for all new devices (presumably launching with ICS) for at least 18 months. Its not known yet if this applies to devices already on the market.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edgeicator:
Guaranteeing updates for 18 months does not guarantee any upgrade in Android version. They keep the phone updated with bugfixes, minor tweaks without ever upgrading the Android version and still say they supported the phone for 18 months.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
yea no. It was specifically for OS updates that was the whole reason Google called everyone for the meeting to bring fragmentation to an end or close to it. So please dont spout unsubstantiated misinformation because your a pessimist
[Atrix 4G Android Development] loltheinternet88:
Can't wait for netflix to work properly on the atrix.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] marko!:
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...am-details-far-f/&category=classic&postPage=1

And there is a source for all the doubters

sent from my rooted,

and chillin, canadian Motorola Atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Wond3r:
Hey Kenneth, an chance you could post a photo taken with the Atrix? I want to see how good this 'improved camera' is

thanks
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mjh60:
How do you all you feel about droid x2 on froyo looking exactly like our supposed gingerbread update???? Kinda makes me wonder what the **** I'm waiting for. I think I'm going to ebay this phone, and get the 3g nexus s for at&t from negri electronics... unless people all think that's a super dumb idea. I dont know... I really can't stand any trace of moto blur. I just want vanilla gingerbread.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
if you want vanilla gingerbread dude, get a nexus s, a o2x or a sgs2, we still need some time to get our, but is already in work =)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joshyy_rey:
Well if we get this bootloader unlocked forget moto. CyanogenMod will keep us up to date one at least the next two android OS i figure. definitely ICS.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] NibblerWeather:
Kenn, photos are showing the Bionic sporting ICS with a newer Blur. Any hints that the atrix will be getting ICS anytime soon?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edgeicator:
Except your link stated nothing of the sort. All they guarantee are updates for 18 months. Guess what? We've gotten 2 updates on the Atrix so far, and the one that did bump the Android version number did so in a very minor way. Manufacturers can easily do just those sorts of updates and still follow the 18 month guideline without ever updating to a major Android version. And the major reason why they can do this? They can just claim that the time it would take to code and then test their version of android X.X with blur/touchwiz/sense/etc. would put the update outside the 18 month window and just issue updates that contain only minor changes and bugfixes.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edgeicator:
First of all, ICS isn't even out of alpha/beta/testing. Very few people even have access to it. Second of all, no where does it state the Bionic has ICS.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/0...otos-reveal-4-5-inch-qhd-display-3d-motoblur/

It seems to have a new motoblur running on 2.3.4.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] marko!:
Woah just giving some more weight to the earlier post. I know we can all be pessimistic about updates but its not like some guy in a mustache is sitting behind a giant desk with an evil laugh saying" look at them squirm while I withhold updates! "

Lets just all cross our fingers and hope Motorola does the right thing

sent from my rooted,

and chillin, canadian Motorola Atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cocchiararo:
a guy i know who has an ATRIX form ATT (in argentina :P) signed up for the beta (500 places only on that) sometime ago (or motorola beta program, dunno), and says he got the 2.3 update.

he suposedly had a 2.3.3 kernel, and it ran like ****, so he went back to rooted 2.2.2 (he could not root it on the 2.3 beta).

it was a 450mb download. He had no webtop accesory to test either.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the2dcour:
OMG how did you get pictures of me?!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the2dcour:
thanks for confirming what my contact in the Philippines confirmed, except that his download was 449mb, I dunno.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
Thanks for the post! Also.for.the doubters if the phone is capable of receiving the update it will get the update guaranteed for 18 months. So therefore if hardware supports it will receive

sent from my gingerblur v4.5 atrix with motokeyboard
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lanyao1920:
cool, hope we can get this upgrade soon :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cocchiararo:
Might have been the same, only that he rounded it up :p
[Atrix 4G Android Development] devize:
Hopefully the Atrix gets that too.. Hopefully by the time the bionic comes out the bootloader will be unlocked
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bigdog_nick:
When i went from my Nexus One on Cm7 to Atrix, i missed the sexy sleek black look out gingerbread. Now, more and more phones are getting 2.3 and we are next (hopefully soon, since moto said by end of 2011), i dont want to wait too long!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cletusarrarr:
i wonder if people can add 1+1 and make it 3 with this :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1115329
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
cletusarrarr nope, diferent phone, without hdmi webtop and figerprint sensor

but his ginger rom can be ported and after this, have webtop added, fingerprint sensor and hdmi drivers in it also, but remember, not the same phone, so flash its sbf or its ROM without righly porting it to our atrix may brick your phone
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mgamerz:
I don't think a violation of nra is worth it... does anyone read the stickies?

Edit: I mean nda, disclosure not release

Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mgamerz:
Yes please lock this thread. People need to stop telling people to break the rules.

Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the2dcour:
having this won't really help port CM7. all you need is 2nd init and a lot of spare time to recode and compile the readily available CM7 code to atrix.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] alistair3149:
They got a dev phone and that's all
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ahmarchi:
but without the 2.3.3 kernel, we would not be able to use it on our atrix's..... we must have the GB kernel to be able to successfully use a CM7 port... and yes getting CM7 will take ALOT of work. and i dont mind waiting etc :) every dev HAS a life, wish more ppl understood that. but hell, it would be nice getting a head start on such a long project...... imagine the possibilities with a CM7 on our atrix..... can we say revolutionize android with our tegra chip :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mr. Clown:
I will close this thread temporary until a new update is available and specially to avoid the pages of "when is the next update going to be" posts.

@all calm down and do not open new threads asking for this update, since I will infract/ban any member who do this.

Kenneth, please shoot me a Pm to reopen this.

Thanks again for your great work.

EDIT: Thread re-open
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Update #4: I previously thought Motorola would OTA to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 now that I'm seeing 2.3.4 builds. But, it looks like my initial projections were probably right. We'll be looking at 2.3.3 for the Atrix on OTA. Then, there will be a separate update to 2.3.4.

I was recently updated to a newer build: 4.5.47. This build was finalized on 05/24/2011 04:46:02. We've got a month more of builds already, which means the Atrix Gingerbread update should be nearing completion.

Read more about the Atrix Gingerbread update in July here: http://briefmobile.com/atrix-4g-headed-for-july-gingerbread-update
[Atrix 4G Android Development] devize:
That is probably a good thing isn't it? Motorola said that they'd unlock bootloaders in the second half of the year but ibproud said the 2.3.3 update was already in carrier testing so it won't be unlocked. Maybe this means that the 2.3.4 update could have an unlocked bootloader.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
My personal opinion: I doubt that AT&T will allow an unlockable Atrix bootloader. Future devices will have unlockable or already unlocked bootloaders, but I don't think the Atrix is going to see an unlock from AT&T or Motorola in the future.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joshyy_rey:
And this is why im fustrated with this phone lol. But thanks for the updates! Ive played with Gingerbread on my friends Droidx and i like it, even if its Blur. Moto did a good job on that one.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ikenley:
I can understand Kenneth's pessimism here. I have no experience with AT&T as I'm from Australia, so I'm not sure what they'd do. But from what people have said this seems to be the biggest hurdle.

I myself am more optimistic, because Motorola plan to implement the bootloader that exists in the Xoom, which was accepted by Verizon. It will depend on how Motorola sell this to AT&T, but from my conversation with Motorola they are aware of the reputational damage this is having on their brand.

Bare in mind I have also sent emails to Verizon & AT&T Executives to see what their stance is on this and am waiting on a response.

I have my supporters and I have my nay-sayers, but I will pursue this until I've exhausted every possibility.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] G-Man.:
Why do you think they wont allow this for the Atrix? I mean they have phones like the Captivate that is unlocked (wasnt locked to begin with, but still) so to allow some phones to be unlocked and others (our atrix) to remain locked would be very hipocritical wouldn't it? I really dont see any reason for them to not allow it, there would be no financial gain for them by refusing the unlockable/relockable bootloader from the Xoom... right?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Swiftks:
I hate all the politics between AT&T, Motorola & their customers... the Nexus 4G coming out this fall has my name written all over it... until then, guess ill have to play the wait and see game on whether this phone will ever be"allowed" to reach its full potential.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nightfox11:
ken how is the voice quality on this build?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stratax:
this update looks amazing. hopefully it wont be as laggy as the one on the droid x2
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ndevries64:
If AT&T doesn't want the unlockable/relockable bootloader on the Atrix... what do you think the chances are for Motorola to keep the bootloader locked, just make it easier to crack?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Shaydar:
What do you guys think about this:

https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/410581#410581