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[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
yeah true. i better stop being lazy lol i've got atleast 20 nandroids on my pc of all my diff roms, i keep em all just incase
[Droid Incredible Android Development] phoenixs4r:
New camera in Panama mode forces closes. Someone got it working, maybe incubus? Would be a nice feature

I mias it when I'm on skyraider.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Well that stinks. I will have to keep trying.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bartjo06:
Nils, I'm on 2.2 Non-3d and loving it so far, it's super stable. Only one thing I wish I could get working, the black keyboard. I've tried using both the file on the 3rd or so post and the Addon in the SpareParts menu but I can't get it to work, I get the HTC_IME menu but not sure what to do from there? I don't see an obvious way to choose the black keyboard.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
Long press on a text box and input method window pops up. You can select keyboard from there.

Nils' Business GS 3d... It's Incredible!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
My camera and camcorder seem to be working fine.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Curious phenomenon....

On "stock" 2.2 (no 3D for me quite yet). Periodically, after disconnecting from PC, dozens of apps "vanish." (This has happened with and without using Dual Mount USB; and has happened on several different versions of this ROM).

They return on a "hard" reboot (i.e., normal, power off or battery pull) but not on a fast reboot.

What could be causing that?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bartjo06:
Edit: Got it, thank you.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
You have to first go into Settings > Language & Keyboard and select HTC_IME mod. Then go into any text box like messaging and press and hold the text area and a selection will pop up.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
That has never happened to me. If you are using any of the USB mods it could have corrupted something. I would just reinstall the ROM without wiping and see if that helps.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KrisPeezy:
downloading the new camera, will report back after i nandroid and flash :)

hgoldner, maybe it has something to do with these apps being on the sd card, and it's not mounting properly on the phone when you disconnect?

Edit: tested the new camera.

-Opening the camera and backing out leaves brightness where it was, but taking a picture pushes it up to 100%.

-I tried going into the gallery from camera app then back home, and brightness stays the same.

-Taking a picture and then gallery->home=brightness 100%.

-tried the different filters and it just took regular pictures

-no effects except for grayscale, solarize, and negative work.

-Sepia seemed to be the same as grayscale.

-did not try HDR or the panorama.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I am working on another angle. I was running a great app called NotEnoughSpace while on my prior Froyo ROM's (the latest of which was Magnolia). It effectively worked around the 150 megabyte limit in the \data\data partition by allowing the user to "move" parts of apps (libraries, etc.) to other partitions, such as cache or even a special, mountable "NotEnoughSpace" partition. It effectively chased the dreaded "low memory" messages that plague unrooted Incredibles with stock ROM's.

The app was an absolute life-saver (done by cyansmoker and betatested extensively here on xda) for Froyo ROM's, but Gingerbread ROM's apparently do not suffer from this limitation (or at least, I haven't run into any \data\data related "low memory" messages. Thus, the app simply isn't required.

I just removed the partition, uninstalled the app, and I'm looking to see whether removing that overhead speeds up the entire boot and running process. At least that's today's theory. Next theory is going to be wondering whether I have sd hardware issues (and I certainly don't want to go there).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Sounds like you have a plan to me and what you are saying is logical. Especially since the ROM is not set up like a stock ROM with various syminks for different areas of the phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
No pain no gain. Sounds like overall I have not made progress on this one. Actually, I was just going to report I had the first ever change of brightness on my phone. So for now I will keep trying and stick with the original camera until I figure it out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
ahh damn, i'm seeing the results here, that's too bad. hey man, props to you for trying to work on it though, even though it's a small bug..i know of many devs here who would just let a bug report like that fall upon deaf ears and continue with the rom without fixing it....which is exactly why i'm on your roms haha

sidenote, anyone here using google plus? i just got it, it's pretty cool!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Apropos of symlinks, etc, I though I'd mention that when I pulled the 3.0 Mail.apk out of Kingdom yesterday, I noticed that the zip file had the file in a directory (along with a whole lot of other apps) data\VR-Sytstem\system.app. I also noticed that the 3.0 Mail.apk is about twice the size of the current Mail.apk (over 5 megabytes). I'm guessing Incubus (as well as Joel and Wozzer) are doing something similar to squeeze all that Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 into a smaller space.

Especially frustrating to see that the OTA of Gingerbread is forthcoming for the Incredible 2 already.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KrisPeezy:
Let's start a Nils' Business Gingersense Circle!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
The not enough space app really works great , can notice everything is so much smoother on my phone.

Great find man !

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
Just waiting for my invitation and I'll dive in. Anyone got an extra?

Nils' Business GS 3d... It's Incredible!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Doesn't really work that way (circles are particular to the user). That having been said, a back door is to "share" something with someone's email and they'll get the message with a button to add.

So, with trepidation that I'll get buried, anyone who wants in PM me with your email and I'll give it a shot.

UPDATE: (10:26 EDT 7/8) Those of you who PM'ed me, check your email.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
oh damn CIRCLESARE particular to the user...well, we can all follow eachother nd add eachother to a nils circle haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KrisPeezy:
we can start with the circles, then create a hub for live group chat :) check my sig if you wanna add me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
good call, sort of like a xda live chat..cool idea. i'm on my inc now so i can't see your sig but i'll add it up tomorrow

nils, you want an invite?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Sure. What do you need?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
just pm me your email, or post it here. also, i've got a bug to report.

the 3g wifi still isn't 100%...a lot if the times,my 3g freezes after getting a pic with wifi on..haven't tested with it off...but i'll get the pic, and 3g stays up there...but mobile network won't work. toggling it does nothing. if i turn wifi off, i have NO mobile network. if someone sends a pic after that, it won't come through. have to reboot to fix it :-(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
Jay what radio you running?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Thread has gone to sleep , 3D2.3 ??

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Working on it.

2.2 stable and thread will rest since 2 or 3 other ROMs came out today. I am also working on my 3.0 ROM
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Sounds great , will look forward to the 3.0 thead and 2.3 !!

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Awesome, I know I've been silent lately cuz everything works. Looking forward to a Business themed full Sense 3.0 Nils. Man, it's hard to believe I was running your Z port and now gingerbread.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
i'm running the stock radio still...i have no idea which one to bother using since i read some problems with some haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
I noticed that apps moved to my SD card lost their home screen icon after a reboot. Also saw that Market didn't show them in installed apps. Decided to try link2sd. Now, even after multiple reboots the icons all come back. Can't see what's in my ext3 partition, but it all seems to work fine. Anyone have any experience or problems with this

app?

Nils' Business GS 3d... It's Incredible!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bikedogrun:
A question and I want to also share an odd occurence:

I use the Sense email app and its widget. All has been great and I definitely love the email app's pinch/zoom capability. This morning my email account was "gone" from the app. It is my gmail address and was there and fine for all of the other apps on the phone that use it but the email app had no accounts at all??? Very bizarre... I simply put it back (had to re-set all of the accounts options/email .sig etc) and all is fine again right now.

My question is about battery life - is this true for all y'all out there too or is it just my Dinc:

Battery charged overnight (sometimes phone is on, sometimes not if it went down to zero battery). I did re-set battery stats via CWM when going from 2.1 to 2.2 Within the first 5 minutes of use the battery drops alarming quickly down to 90-91% left. Then drops still a tad quicker than normal into the low 80%. Once into the 70% range the battery life becomes excellent and actually drops pretty slowly the rest of the day.

I'm OK with this (now that I know to expect it) ,,, just wondering if that is the normal MO for this ROM (which I love) ???

/BD
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
That is normal a somewhat annoying and deceptive thing they all do it is part of how the battery overcharge protection is setup it will charge to 100 then discharge itself to 90% as a method to preserve the battery.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
hum 7.28 then? You have an amoled it could have an older one did you have the latest ota?

You might try the 11.19 one..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
+1

I prefer 11.19 to the leaked 5.06
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
radio actually makes that big of a diff? my Amoled guy is from July 20th or so of last year. i got the OTA in sept i think for froyo, and that's it. i rooted in january and have been on custom roms since, but no new radios. is it worth a flash?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
I think it is worth a try since your having issues with the 3g and wifi it is actually seeming like you might be on the radio before 7.28 you can see what one you are on in the about phone screen. I believe it might have been the november ota that did the 7.28 update.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Yeah my 7.28 works great.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
baseband version? mines 7.28... 2.15.00.07.28
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
Yeah baseband and radio are the same thing your having issues where you can't download mms and you need to restart your incredible my solutions to that would be to try the 11.19 radio if that does not work does the problem occur when the phone is stock.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nah i never had problems. ginersense roms all have an issue where if wifi is on, 3g never turns on. meaning if u get a pic, or u send a pic, u must turn wifi off.

nils is the ONLY dev who fixed it lol however, although the fix works great, it's still a little buggy where the 3g will stay in the notification bar after getting a pic, with wifi on, and won't go away. that means 3g ia stuck and frozen. if u turn wifi off, 3g will be up there. but let's say u try to open the internet, it'll say, no internet access, bc 3g isn't really on. if u toggle it, it does nothing. must reboot.

so maybe i'll try that new radio, idk
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
I am in 7.28 after having had horrible problems due to flashing those unreleased radios. People have their own opinions and mine is to not fix what isn't broke. None of those radios were released and one should reasonably find it odd that those betas never went final even after all this time.

You may find that applying those betas causes your phone to overheat as it struggles to find a signal under the new radio.

My two cents.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
yeah, i'm pretty weary about flashing a new radio honestly lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
Eh I flashed 5.06 first then went to 5.02 now I'm on 11.19 I don't think it is too scary anymore
[Droid Incredible Android Development] merlin66676:
Kernel Question for this rom. What if any different kernels work with this rom, and what are others using?

thanks

Awesome work Nils, by the way.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
There are no alternate kernels yet you need to wait till the source is out and some one makes one it had been said chads latest works but there are alot of boot loops and fc with it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
so, just curious, is this generally how most people's graphs look? when idle, phones fine and the lines pretty horizzontal...but the second i wake it up and start using it, it just drops like a perfectly perpendicular line haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
yeah that is pretty much what i get too the steep drops occur when i play games or make calls... Cept im at 7 hours with 70% battery left... awake time about 2 hours did some web surfing...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
dang, that's pretty damn good lol i'm lucky when i hit 12 or 13 a day!

i really wanna try wdfowtys inc 2 remix, i'm reading people saying it's a great rom for a beta...i'm wondering if it's got the notification pulldown lag at all. that's my biggest problem on these gingersense roms, it's.really bad and sometimes takes.like 5-7 sec just for it to pull down...but apparently not everybody gets this, so it's a ****ty bug to report cuz lots of people don't even know what i'm talking about lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
wow look at this, maps kept me awake for over an hour...i didn't even use it today, i just checked latitude maybe twice and i always back out, not hit home. WTF!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
the best time i had with nils is 26 hours on one charge that is with texting and some web lookups on wifi I think i may have made 1 or 2 short phone calls... that was with 8 hours awake time... about 24 has been my average recently...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
Obviously the more you use your phone, the quicker the battery will drain. Display and GPS are huge drains. I've seen my battery go from full to 60% while the only thing I'm doing is Words With Friends for 15 minutes. Why? It's a "bright" app and it keeps the screen lit up the whole time. I've seen my battery level drop a percentage point every 10 seconds or so while I've had Maps up and running, trying to get directions somewhere with poor reception (downtown Chicago.)

Point being, if you USE your phone, you're going to kill your battery. Keeping the background drain to a minimum is important, so that you're not making the problem worse when you're not actually using the phone. Turn off hourly updates. Why do you need to update every hour when you're not using the apps? They'll update when you open them and force a refresh. For me, always-current content is less important than having more battery available when I need it.

I follow Nils' advice he's posted many times in this thread: set everything to update only once a day and/or refresh on app start when possible, except Weather which updates every hour.

There are also options like Tasker that can do almost anything you want in terms of turning off updates and services depending on the time of day or location or battery level, but they're not for the average user (and the average user won't pay $6.50 for an app, probably, but I'm nuts and I like to tinker with things.)

The battery drain is the biggest shock new smartphone users have upon switching from dumb phones. "You mean I have to charge more than once a week?" Yup. Get used to having a charger at work, two chargers at home, one in your bag, and one in the car. Plug it in whenever you're sitting next to one. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Yes , you have to think of your phone as a computer, because that is what it is. How long does your laptop last when it is unpluged ?

3 - 4 hours ?

HTC does not put the best batteries in their phones , so if you get a full day you are lucky.

Sent from my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
lol guys, i'm not complaining. i'm not a new smartphone user. i know how this **** works. all i wanted to do was compare battery graphs with others to see what they all look like.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
The battery graphs always look like crap to me since I am charging, rebooting etc all day so I gave up looking at them
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
yeah that's right, you're a dev so you're constantly doing that stuff. to me, battery life is like a game lol i want to see how much i can get outta it each day, and then i like to look at the pretty graphs :p hahah
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
lol, my laptop lasts maybe 40 minutes, even on the LOWEST brightness, and lowest power consumption. no lie. thing USED to last like 4-5 hours in 2009...but i guess that's what constantly keeping it plugged in did to it. that battery must be SHOT by now lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Still loving the rom Nils, awesome job. Question, is adding the Photo Frame widget to your homescreen working? I always use the Photo Grid widget cuz its real slick, but as I added random widgets to check them out I noticed Photo Frame wont stick.

P.S. after two weeks, I just realized today we have the Sense 3.0 weather widget lol

Sent via Business Gingersense
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
You didn't notice the difference??

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Nah haha I hadn't yet added the widget to my homescreen. I thought I was missing something on my homescreen but couldn't recall what it was until I glanced at another rom thread's OP and noticed their screenshots. Our rom doesn't have that weather widget in the screenshots if you hadn't noticed.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
That's correct.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
My screenshots are just teasers and you have to dig to see what is hidden in the ROM :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
How is 3.0 comming along ??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
i've yet to use a 3.0 rom...i used the kingdom one just to see,a nd it was buggy as hell when i tried, so that kinda tarnished my taste for 3.0 stuff...

but if nils can get that stuff running flawlessly with no memory issues, then dang, i'll give it a whirl haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
It is close to ready but I can't get the SD Card to mount to the PC
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Had the same problem last week. :confused:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Anybody got a link to the sense 3.0 weather widget apk ??

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] KrisPeezy:
honestly i like sense 2.1/3.0 hybrids because 3.0 really takes up a lot of memory, and the biggest thing that i wanted from 3.0 was the lockscreen
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
i'm pretty much with ya there man. all i see from sense 3 that's special is the lockscreen. hell ,these sense 2 roms take up so much memory as it is haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
I'm curious as what we gain by going pure sense 3 rather than hybrid. I believe the original reason for using sense 2.1 with features of 3 was for memory conservation.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
The incdoes and chingys 3.0 actually are pretty smooth with memory, and my phone hates 3.0 for some reason. My point being is i think devs are figuring out how to get more(3.0), out of less(dinc). Nils is one of the best, if he releases a full 3.0, id bet its pretty damn good.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
It will be great like all his roms.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
seeing all these devs leaving XDA is making me laugh. they won't have nearly as much popularity and users on their own little forums. glad i stuck with you, nils....i've said it before, but atleast you actually listen to us, unlike other devs.

to nils! :cool: haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
I'll toast to that. I still wish everyone good luck with their roms.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Newt:
Nils man you are the dev I respect the most in this forum.... You do things right and you are highly motivated and you are not afraid to work for something besides the alternative... So I'm doing this publicly b.c. I think you desrve the credit... And dude we would love to see you join us man b.c. you are about the same things we are.... So dude the offer is open you don't have to respond to this or anything just know man that you are welcome and we would love to have you.... Keep up the great work man
[Droid Incredible Android Development] merlin66676:
Quick question before I try a full wipe. I had gps working with 2.1 and I think with 2.2. I tried using it today and I can't get a lock. Any suggestions before I wipe data. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
My gps has been great, used it the last four days for my internship. Use "gps status" an app in the market, see if that solves your issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
+1 on that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] o0 DIDDY 0o:
Dude that would be one sick collaboration right there.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chadledford:
maps just recently updated, my maps still work but cant get a gps lock in navigation
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chadledford:
sry didnt mean to quote u slimsnoop, meant to quote the guy saying he couldnt get a gps lock
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
so hey btw, is anyone else's maps keeping the phone awake for an hour or so outta like a 14 hour day like mine? idk why it's keeping it awake...

also, new problem that may or may not be new? i remember that of i'm om a website and i get a text or something and pull down the bar and goto that text, when i go back to my browser the page would still be where i left it. well, now, it reloads the page every time as if the browser cleared it's memory. i don't remeemver this ever happening before...is this something to do with gingerbread? is it a memory issue?? hmm...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
It's all good. FWIW, I haven't updated my Maps to the newest version. Have you tried the app I suggested in my previous post btw?

I can't remember if mine does this or not but i one wont be able to test until this afternoon. I'll try reporting back then if hasn't been touched on by everyone. As for Maps, I thought it was typical of the app even after you " close" it. When I was on Froyo I would notice it would still be listed in my running apps well after used it. if I notice it I'll kill it but I completely dislike using a task killer for android.