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[Android General] bluebobx:
I agree with what you're saying - it seems like a missed opportunity not to provide the same kind of HDMI-out on the Station that the Transformers have. One of the suggested usage cases for the bundle last year, was doing presentations where the presenter was working from their larger Station screen while letting the audience also see the image.

As said above, I'd heard that the intention was to go with the TF101's dock, but the Station is more top heavy than the TF101, so a bigger "ballast" weight was needed. Disappointing, but I can see their reasoning. On the upside, maybe they were smart and made up the extra weight with battery - in which case the better battery life (v's a TF101-dock-based solution) is a good trade-off?

That was my first thought too - ports covered by flaps like the USB ports on the TF101 dock. However, I zoomed a couple of those images in GIMP and I'm now convinced that the bulge on the left side (under the headphone socket) is actually the volume rocker, especially as there seems to be a small hole underneath it - which I'm guessing is the microphone. It'd make sense for Asus to keep all the sound hardware (headphone, volume and microphone) in approximately the same area. Anyone out there going to disagree with that assessment?

Similarly there's two bulges on the top - the centre one is definitely the dock catch, but I think the one top-left is (very) likely to the the power switch. Shame Asus haven't got around to releasing an owners manual (even in draft).

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Okay, I was wrong - no USB nor HDMI on the Station. So the ports referred to in the Asus specs

must

be the ones that the phone docks into (would have been nice if Asus'd made that clear!!). Shame about that though. :(

Wonder if we'll see cNet etc who said the ports were there update their stories... :mad:

Looking at my Google stream this morning and there seems to be a lot of stories that the UK pricing for this is going to be a lot higher. Figures of £600+ quoted for phone+station, and no availability until June at the earliest - which is worrying if true.

Good thing about rumours - there's so many to choose from... ;)
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Yes, they did mislead a bit on that part, and why didn't they list the micro HDMI port on the phone?

The Padfone isn't perfect, even if reviews don't cover up any further flaws. E.g. they seemed to have forgotten a notification LED on the phone, also NFC would have been nice (but maybe they just didn't want to put more strain on the small battery with that). But a perfect device doesn't exist and probably never will.

Sad, but wouldn't be the first time UK buyers get charged more than the continent dwellers. As to the date, I guess that's floating for all of us right now. :(

Even better, it's interactive! :p
[Android General] s5360user:
this is an instant get!:cool:
[Android General] icl0udn3t:
That is interesting .....I wonder what is the CPU on this ?
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
That is a rarely shared secret.
[Android General] bluebobx:
No NFC I can live with, but no notification LED might be a major problem for me (because I have to have my phone on silent a lot) - as you say, that seems to have been glossed over - darn it. :( (thanks for the info ... again!)

No "perfect device" - surely the Galaxy SIII or iPhone5 will get that accolade? (said with tongue very firmly in cheek) :rolleyes: lol

Easy, it's Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 8260A Dual-Core 1.5 GHz (according to www.asus.com/Mobile/PadFone#specifications and pretty much every review I've read since MWC). And according to what information that's out there, this seems like a pretty competent cpu - based on latest A15 technology, yada, yada.
[Android General] rmanuelb:
Very nice and interesting gadget from ASUS...
[Android General] timboyce94:
That's one of the videos I saw and the reason I was saying no HDMI-out from the dock - there are others similar. Disappointing. Who knows, maybe something will eventually be made to utilize the 40-pin dock connector. Though even that is not ideal.
[Android General] bluebobx:
As you say it's a missed opportunity not to have an HDMI out either on the Station or Dock. Though I'm not sure whether the dock connector on the Station has the relevant output lines - I strongly suspect not (because the Dock doesn't have a video out, so no need to put them there).

I suppose we can take some small solace from the fact that you presumably

can

use the MiniHDMI out on the phone itself to hook up to a monitor/projector/TV. Although it would have been really neat to do that "mobile presenter" thing where you use an HDMI TV for output and a gyration mouse (or similar) to control your presentation.
[Android General] 3mL:
When I try to install Dead Space I get a message like this:

"End of space

Couldn't unistall the application. Try to free up some space"

??? What the hell, I tried to install another game and it worked fine..
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
I do wonder if the WW rom is designed for the 16GB design. I don't know if there are any hardware changes other than the amount of storage, but if there are, it could explain why the rom doesn't play so well.
[Android General] NineT9:
Mine just got shipped from Tawain today, waiting for it here in USA... I'll be PadFonian soon :)

Wonder how long it'll take to get here...
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
One of us... one of us...!

;)

My PadFone took a week to get to the UK. It's been over two weeks now and I'm still waiting for the case. Different seller, alas. :/
[Android General] Kermode:
I don't need one. Perhaps they think it makes sense that people who don't want one don't have to pay for one?
[Android General] 3mL:
Fixed it! Had aborted a installation once before of Dead space and there was some leftover files needed to be cleared.

edit: But now it won't start. :( Anyone gotten Dead Space to work?
[Android General] OuchG:
Games

"Dead Space" and "Tiger Woods" 12 do not work.

Today launched "Dead Trigger", it plays and looks awsome on Phone and Tablet on highest graphics setting. But you have to pay more then the 99c ingame (about 3-10$)

"Mini Motor Racing" is great as well in both modes and "Virtua Tennis" the same. Virtua Tennis really drains the Battery and heats the Phone up. "Pinball Arcade Classics" survives the switch from phone to tablet. "Theme Hospital" works fine in laptop mode with mouse. "Max Payne" is a great game and works fluently, but its not designed for touch control (didn't try GTA III). A great FF-Tactics-style game is "Spectral Souls". "Xenowar" is fun but ugly. "Samurai II Vengeance" is nice in both modes. I even play real money poker on phone and tablet.

All the other applications I tried worked fine. The preintalled "Supernote" is useful with the Stylus and "MyCloud" has "Splashtop" integrated which works as a nice remote. I use it with MSOffice on my 2 year old EEPC.

The switch from Phone to tablet has some issues sometimes: Today I accidently made a telephone call in laptop mode, and pulled out the phone. The microfone didn't work until reboot after that.

But I am very happy with the device.
[Android General] KingsnakeW:
GTA III works for me.
[Android General] lunarken:
any1 installed street fighter 4 hd?
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
How did you install it? It says it's not compatible with my device in the Play store... not hugely bothered, as I don't game on this thing, but I thought I'd give it a go, since I bought it cheap...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
i am using the taiwan ROM but don't have major problems with force close. only very occasionally.

mass effect and modern combat 3 runs pretty smoothly without any problems.

have u got the latest OTA that was released couple of weeks ago?
[Android General] Rekka00:
WTF?

OK, new issue with my phone... It will not detect my USB drive or my SD card that It previously detected. Nothing I do seems to fix this. Any suggestions?
[Android General] KingsnakeW:
I don't know, I just did two-three weeks ago, when I "moved" what I previously bought for TF101. Strangely, now I cannot see it in the Play store
[Android General] kearon:
Working launchers and European ROM

OK,

The European ROM finally uploaded. You can find it here: kearon.4shared.com

I might go back to the Taiwanese one yet - depends on my successes / failures with apps. I am getting less force closes now ...

Launchers - I think my dynamic display settings weren't sticking for some reason. I can now confirm that I have had:

Apex Launcher - works fine, adapts nicely between tablet and phone modes. Don't like the app drawer groups function much though.

[update] Nice feature is the way Apex handles home screens - basically, it adds screen real estate when changing from phone to tablet mode, this way widgets etc. are sized appropriately in tablet mode. An added benefit is that you can pace icons and widgets you don't need in phone mode outside the core area (top left) and they won't show when you take your phone out of the station. Probably still better to have different home screens like the Asus stock launcher.

Current gripe: when I take the phone out of the station, the dock icons get all scrunched up in landscape mode - fine in portrait. Apex needs a restart to fix it - there may be a fix.

Nova Launcher - works fine, adapts nicely between tablet and phone modes BUT the dock doesn't function in tablet landscape mode. It is there, but no icons appear. If you add an icon, it vanishes then, when you go back to phone or portrait mode, you find the icon has grouped itself with others on the dock. Presentation of tabs and groups in app drawer is nice enough, but still a bit of a hassle to set up.

BTW - finally tracked down some of my constant force closes to the Tesla Unread Count plugin for Nova (I think). Will confirm.

[Update] Is working fairly smoothly, shame widget scale so big when changing to tablet mode. I managed to get my dock icons back in tablet landscape mode but have lost them again. It seemed to be related to something in the dynamic switching list - but not Nova??

Go Launcher EX working - but it doesn't scale properly - you just have the choice of the Asus zoom or stretch options.

Go Launcher HD - works in tablet mode, kindly informs you it's not for phones when you switch and dumps you.

So, not sure which I'll go for just now. It would be Nova if the dock worked. I want Go Launcher (my favourite, quick and easy to use, gives me what I want), but they need to sort out tablet/phone switching first.

Hope this helps.:good:

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Anyone have any thoughts on how to check if the European ROM is designed for different specs? Or know if there are other hardware differences? - I would be surprised if the memory is hardcoded into the ROM as the Padfone is available in various memory size versions.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Padfone available in Malaysia: http://www.padfoneclub.com/news.php?item.8.1
[Android General] Krad213:
Received my device today, but it has CHT rom and asus removed WWE from support site, can anyone upload somewere WWE rom ?

And what I have to do first - get root, or change to wwe ?
[Android General] oroo708:
wheere did you get that source from?? thats cheap!!! should wait for that...huhu
[Android General] phoxy84:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/asus-malaysia/asus-to-expand-new-mobile-horizons-with-the-padfone-and-padfone-station/441002459253390
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
Hello fellow Padfonians! I just received my Padfone from Taiwan last Friday and I'm loving it. I came from a two year old HTC Desire, so it's a rather dramatic step-up! I opted for the phone, station and stylus package, as US keyboards lack essential ä, ö, and å keys (I live in Finland).

First things first: LET'S HAVE A DEDICATED SUBSECTION ADMINS! 160 pages - FFS...

I rooted mine over the weekend thanks to the fantastic post earlier in the thread. :D

It has been asked twice in the thread and missed/ignored twice, so I'll ask again: is there a Clockworkmod Recovery for the Padfone? I can see there is for the TF300, but can't find anything specific for us.

Is there any way to disable the external storage notification? I have to pull the back off the phone to install it so don't really need a permanent reminder... :rolleyes:

For anyone interested, the Padfone is now available one pre-order in Finland for €700 from Verkkokauppa. It's the 16GB version with just phone and station. It's not clear whether it's imported though.
[Android General] kearon:
See previous post re: ww rom for download
[Android General] Someone09:
Not yet.

None that I know of. Neither on the Padfone nor on my TF101.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
We always include our sources in the posts...
[Android General] PuntoG:
I had the same issue when I ran transferred my Lexar 32GB Class 10 from my PF, to the Atrix 4G then back to the PF again. The only thing that worked was reformatting it in the computer to FAT32 and transferring everything back while the card was in the phone and connected to the computer via USB. Weird issue, but I think with all the moving of the card, maybe the file system gets corrupted even though I always unmount first.
[Android General] PuntoG:
Has anyone else tried to watch USTVNOW? When I go to the site and log in, I'm told that I need to install Adobe flash. Thing is, it's already installed and updated. I had the same problem with the Atrix 4G, but just never got around to troubleshooting it. Now, I would really like to sort this out so I can watch live US TV on this wonderful toy.
[Android General] PuntoG:
AMEN BRUDDA! PREACH!:p
[Android General] Krad213:
If you need something to be done, do it yourself, here is the link to WWE rom:

http://asusxperts.puchu.es/index.php?dir=padfone/Firmware/

Mirror it somewhere cuz asus removed this from official site.
[Android General] dimitriossara:
Hello...i have a tawain version padphone and i have the version of garmin into my device but it have only taiwan map...how can i download the map of Greece into the software?

Thanks
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
From what I can see, you can't. I've just uninstalled it on mine as I already use Sygic. I'm hoping I can work out how to reclaim the 2GB on space the maps are using...

Do yourself a favour and buy a decent new Navigator app :)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Garmin is a decent navigation app...

But I haven't tried installing maps on it... but I know it's possible, iv'e seen some-one write about it here...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
Instructions to load maps into your Garmin on Padfone

http://www.padfoneclub.com/pl/content/content.php?content.11
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Nice... I'll try whenever I have time to try XD
[Android General] Alle090:
I got my Padfone today!!

Im a Padfonian now!

The only sad thing is a 1mm light bleed in the tablet!
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Talking of Garmin, does anyone know how I set the language of the App to English? I tried to flip through some options, but... it's all Taiwanese to me :/
[Android General] cty.stuart:
see attached. anti clockwose from bottom right
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Beautiful! Thank you! :D
[Android General] lord_neno:
lol, how do you find my server? xDD, I downloaded this files from asus 2 weeks ago to have a mirror for asusxpers.com in http://asusxperts.puchu.es/index.php?dir=padfone/ with all the software related to padfone xDD

honestly I forgot I had done that :P
[Android General] Justin^Tan:
For those who bought padfone on SG, how much is it for the phone, pad and stylus? is it only available on starhub or you can buy it anywhere else without contract of course. I live in Indonesia and wants to compare the prices between SG and MY :) MY is quite cheap when it converted to IDR though
[Android General] Rekka00:
Good suggestion but it is for my external SD and a USB flash drive. Formatting isnt the issue because 3 hours later I noticed it worked... then this morning, didnt... then 1 hour later, worked? I think maybe it is a software issue... I hope because if not then it means something in loose! lol
[Android General] Krad213:
:) Glad you did, because it was the only place in whole known intrenet :)

It was quite a quest to find it, first I found some taiwanese warez forum with instructions, how to patch form CHT to WWE (it wasn't fully correct, but it is other story). Forum had information locked and required registrtion to see it, the next thing was - registration allways fails, saying - you name is to short ... I really don't know how long taiwanese names are, I even tried to use some hieroglyph words around as name, but stiil without result. Next I looked in the thread again, but in other level - HTML DOM, and it appeared that info I needed was actualy loading, but blocked with some DIVs and resizing, so I readed it directly form DOM. There was link to the asus portal, of cause it was long way dead, but it was direct link to file, with full file name. Then I googled that filename, and got just 2 links - dead asus link, and yours. :)

Small instruction, how to switch to WWE rom (!No GARMIN there!):

1) You need separate microSD card.

2) Download update file from:

http://asusxperts.puchu.es/index.php?dir=padfone/Firmware/

3) Extract it, and put the inner zip file to SDcard (/Removable/MicroSD/ folder on device)

4) Reboot into recovery:

a) use "adb reboot recovery"

or

b) power phone off, hold volume down and power on, select the first item in menu appeared ("firmware download mode" or something like that)

5) Update from external storage, select your update file from sdcard

6) Wipe/factory reset

7) Reboot

Here you are with clean WWE rom :)
[Android General] ric242:
how i can check i have a CHT or WWE rom?

thanks for answer
[Android General] Krad213:
Simplest way - open dialer, don't see any hieroglyphs = WWE rom.

Right way - settings -> about padfone -> build number contains "WW" or "CHT" substrings
[Android General] phoxy84:
Maybe the answer is already in the forum, what is the difference between both firmwares? One has Garmin, other not. More differences? Which is best (for me in The Netherlands)?
[Android General] Krad213:
CHT has much, !MUCH! more different crap-ware, most of which not even translated to any other languages, also it has some android software replaced by taiwanese versions, for example - phone application has hieroglyphs instead of latin characters. And stock firmware force-closed phone application every 10 seconds (may-be this fixed by newer CHT firmware ...).
[Android General] phoxy84:
Thanks, so advice is change to WW?
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Tough decision - you should think long and hard if you really can live without incomprehensible bloatware and FCs.
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
I've uninstalled the crapware with Titanium Backup and I don't actually mind the dialler. It may be an ASUS thing, but this one has "smart dialling", whereby you can type someone's name using the number pad and it finds them in the address book.

The default ICS dialler on my Nexus didn't do this, so I don't want to swap away to WWE just yet...
[Android General] ando roido:
My wwe has also smart dialing.

What I do not understand is why the xda hackers have not discovered garmin street pilot yet.
[Android General] phoxy84:
Ok, can you give me a list of apps you uninstalled without a problem? Seems link CHT is more stable, I like that better.
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Apparently not, they've gone from Titanium. Sorry. Pretty much anything with Chinese characters in the name got zapped though, and a few other things that sounded boring.

I did Freeze everything for a few weeks first, to make sure that it didn't break anything. It's a nice safety net.

EDIT: And I did a full backup before doing anything, just to be on the safe side.
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
I did the same thing and uninstalled all the Hami app-crap, Asus Vibe, Press Reader, Zinio, App Backup, MyNet, MyLibrary (or whatever), the two music apps, a Chinese hieroglyphs app, the Chinese keyboards, Gamin, and maybe one or two more. I used Titanium for some and a Terminal for the ones Titanium couldn't remove. Some other apps I simply disabled, as I may want them some other time. I hate crapware on phones and would much prefer an empty phone and install just what I want.

If anyone knows how to reclaim the Garmin map partition, please let me know :)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I think I stick with the Taiwanese ROM...

It will probably get OTAs first, and the dailer is pretty cool imo :D
[Android General] cty.stuart:
does getting ota 1st depends on where your rom originates or where you are connected to when u try updating?
[Android General] TNTPOP:
Hey,

What do you think of "labscom" selling from Italy on Ebay?

32GB Phone + Station for €699

Damn, can't post links yet.
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
I feel the same regarding the firmware. I don't see a lot of issues with its stability yet.

By the way, I got GOF2 installed on my Padfone despite of the fact that is not supported for Snapdragon CPU - just because I bought it for my previous tf101 and recently moved my Google account to Padfone.

It works but not very stable. And gyro has problems in tablet mode.
[Android General] phoxy84:
Thanks, will use it :)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I think it depends on the rom... Why would they bring an update to NL/EU when only like 10 people have it XD

I didn't expect GTA III to work properly on this snapdragon, but it does, since it was build for Tegra...
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Has it taken the keyboard off the list of inputs? I Froze it in Titanium, but it's still in the list and still defaults whenever I swap between pad and phone, so it threw all sorts of errors until I put it back.
[Android General] 3mL:
Must say those 100+ 2-in-1 and 3-in-1 packages that Komplett.se sold out in a day or two is quite an achievement for Asus, and that's only in Sweden.

Since all Padfones are unlocked and not sold by any carrier here in Sweden with official Asus Retailers and Asus Sweden. I've got a strong feeling we'll have the updates early in EU, and everyone on WW roms. :)
[Android General] TNTPOP:
Here's the link :

http://cgi.ebay.fr/TABLET-SMARTPHONE-ASUS-PadFone-PadFone-Station-/310410547206?pt=Computer_portatili&hash=item4845e91006#ht_3135wt_1398
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
Yes. First I disabled them and they came off the list. After I read your post about Titanium (and Rooting - thanks!), I changed them to user apps and uninstalled them.

I use SwiftKey, bought the Tablet version and installed it with the standard version for the phone. It was driving me nuts that it couldn't dynamically change keyboard. It would constantly default to the ASUS keyboard when undocking the phone, and remain on the standard version when docking. When changing to the Tab version, it frequently crashed immediately and had to be started manually. However, I changed the Tab version to a system app and everything works perfectly! :)
[Android General] phoxy84:
Any news of the Padfone getting 4.1 Jelly Bean? If the Asus nexus has it, I hope it will be easy to get is on the padfone as well :D
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Isn't that a Tegra device?
[Android General] phoxy84:
Yes, but is that a problem...?
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Based on the speed that ASUS released ICS onto the Transformer after it was released, I'm quietly confident that we'll get Jelly Bean before the autumn... I'm hoping early August, but then, I'm an optimist ;)

If we're really lucky, they'll decide to get JB on it before the worldwide launch, so they can market it as a Jelly Bean phone/tablet in Europe and the States.
[Android General] phoxy84:
Ok, you experience with the product before gives me the hope that they will indeed launch JB soon :D Thanks for your reply.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Talking about JB... What's up with the velvet.apk in our Padfones?

I tried installing the Google Now "velvet.apk" on my Padfone (didn't require root or anything special), but when I tried to install the app, I got this error message:
[Android General] phoxy84:
Perhaps uninstall (freeze or rename) old velvet.apk first?