yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jesseji:
(Q) Can u check to see if it has more then 2 touch points and u can hold your finger on the screen for more then 15 seconds before the touch stops working. Sucks playing PSX games and other games when u have to hold your finger on the screen for more then 15 seconds then it stops working! Thx for all the info, pics, and Video. U made my day:)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] thebeardedchild:
The good news though is that we should be in a little better position to perhaps at least port the X2 mirroring app, then, don't ya think?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] proalius:
I think the better benchmark for Atrix is Smartbench 11 instead Quadrant, because this support real multi-core instead Quadrant.

I'd like to know if 2.3 bring us more than 2 touch points...

Thank you very much for all this info!!!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] marko!:
To me it looks like Motorola has been watching xda. A lot of the visuals look like a mix of mods people have. Been adding! (Darker notification bar,transparent pull down)

Does the batter do 1% by default now?

sent from my rooted,

and chillin, canadian Motorola Atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Joooom:
Wow! seems will be a lot of work to do for the upcoming Gingerbread, thanks for our developers.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] franciscojavierleon:
let's hope so... so you are investigating three root leads. i suggest you get in contact with p3droid, as the gb on the droid x is already rooted, don't know the method... and all root research should be done outside of this forum to prevent any info that could help moto in closing bugs that we could exploit.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] NoNameAtAll:
No the droid x has a similar blur for gingerbread.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bl0wf1sh:
Nice interface but...

What's with the fugly data connectivity icon? That is just... awful.

But otherwise, cool stuff.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Snakeyez86:
So was GB improving our dual core utilization a myth? I get higher quadrant scores than that now and im still using 4.1.57
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
unlocked bl in this ginger version?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sifon187:
Its a beta leak, lower benchmark scores are to be excepted. This not a final build.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
dudes, off topic thing buts ok, i got 2900 in quadrant in my atrix, twice =) 3200/2400 in smartbench, and 3619 in antutu =D

using retail version of brazillian firmware

edit : i agree with yousifon187 a leak never is as good as a final build, so lets wait the final, every minute it is closer to us to get it
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Rubb:
As long as my atrix is rock solid and battery friendly, I don´t care about benchmarks. Reminds me of the old days of nvidia x ati discussion about which one has more 3dmarks.

Of course...if gingerbread would really improve dual-core usage...I wouldn´t mind at all :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] noxlord:
I hope the devs will take advantage of the situation to advance the root access and pseudo-roms at a decent level before the official update is out.

I also hope thy will hold on to it before the update is official and prevent moto from blocking root again.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nitrox1:
Don't suppose your friend knows if motorola will keep their promise of unlocking the bootloader by the end of 2011, with this update to GB? Please, and thank you.

Swyped from 'mount' Olympus
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dLo GSR:
their unlocking would be carrier dependent, and you should know for a fact that AT&T will not do it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
What makes you so sure? Until a few months ago everyone said at&t wouldn't allow sideloading and now they are. So don't assume you know my friend. AT&T has changed their tune since loosing iPhone esclusivity

sent from my gingerblur v4 atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
*Ahem*.....not true. This is Motorola not AT&T. No other phones on AT&T have locked bootloaders. Even the new Infuse has an unlocked bootloader and that just came out.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
Hear hear!! The man speaks the truth

sent from my gingerblur v4 atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] darkamikaze:
could have sworn the infuse was a samsung phone.. not a motorolla phone. I haven't really encountered a heavily locked samsung device :| so I don't think that's a valid point.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
It is a Samsung device......that is the point. Motorola is the only ones to lock their bootloaders on AT&T. It is not AT&T calling the shots.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milesjohnson:
It's motorola not att
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dLo GSR:
it's completely carrier dependent on whether or not their 'solution', which comes for developers in the late half of the year, is implemented or not. the only reason AT&T buckled on sideloading was the huge surge of the Amazon App Store. AT&T has never had a good track record on allowing things to be open under their network.

you guys can believe what you want, but i have way more faith in kholk and tenfar and will be putting all my eggs in that basket. even if we do get an at&t-approved 'solution' from motorola, it won't be until the end of this year, and certainly not in this GB update.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bongd:
It really sounds to me like Motorola was alluding to NEW handsets being shipped without locked bootloaders. I honestly don't think they'll make a retroactive change to existing devices. That reeks of too much effort and Motorola is bullshitting us as much as possible.

If they really had the integrity and honesty they try to portray they would unlock the bootloaders and stop dropping cryptic messages and scapegoats. Motorola are a bunch of lying bullshitters.

I've got my chips placed on the devs of our community to make this a possibility. Wait on Motorola? Ha!! That's a joke. I'd love to eat my words but I don't have any faith in Motorola.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
If that's the case, then why is Motorola the only one with the locked bootloader on AT&T? Why would they have not required Samsung or HTC to do the same? :confused:

I sure hope kohlk or tenfar can get this going, I don't think Motorola will give up the keys no matter what.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
motorolas bootloaders are locked everywhere
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nitrox1:
What has at&t, got to do with rest of the world? And the numerous other carriers that will at some point receive an update?

Swyped from 'mount' Olympus
[Atrix 4G Android Development] knigitz:
Carriers can have limitations based on specific vendor contracts. Duh.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nitrox1:
Yes but at&t is not the centre of the universe. Or does the world revolve around you?

Now play nice.

Swyped from 'mount' Olympus
[Atrix 4G Android Development] OSNPA:
It just so happens that every carrier that Motorola has phones with allows unlocked bootloaders for every other manufacturer.

EDIT: meaning, Sony, HTC were free to change their minds, why wouldn't Motorola be?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naplesbill:
There are and have been plenty of other devices on AT&T with locked bootloaders. The difference is the others have been unlocked or bypassed, one way or another.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
Motorola is not the only one with locked bootloaders on AT&T. Please stop spreading misinformation. Almost all android phones right now (AT&T or not) have locked bootloaders, save a few. The difference is that Motorola is the only company who does it properly. Other phone bootloaders are cracked within days, sometimes hours. I don't know about you, but a phone with a locked bootloader that easy to crack seems like lazy or incompetent development. I wouldn't trust the rest of the device to be secure if they can't even get that right.

New devices are starting to be released with unlocked bootloaders because of growing concern from Google and end-users, but it's ignorant to ignore that carrier pressure is why it was locked down in the first place.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
Could you specify which ones you are referring to? :confused:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lyon21:
A lot of them have been locked. however, none were encrypted/signed like motos are.

Sent from my rooted, gingerblured badass atrix!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
Point taken, that's what I should have stated. Thanks for clarifying.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kane4fire:
If Moto spent the time and effort to lock out root access AGAIN on this GB update, what makes you think that's any step forward towards them unlocking the bootloader for us? If anything, this lets you know they want to keep it locked for good any way they can and they will spend their resources doing it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
Not true at all. The Gingerbreak exploit is a MASSIVE security flaw that could be easily used by any malicious user to destroy your phone. You'd rather they just ignore it and not fix it? That's stupid. They're doing their jobs, lose the entitlement attitude.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kane4fire:
would you say that getting root access at any point on our phones is a massive security flaw?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bearsfan172:
Basically. Every root method I'm aware of basically finds a flaw and exploits it in order to gain root. Which is fine. The problem with that is that gaining root access isn't the only thing that can be done through these flaws, and they could be used maliciously by other people that wanted to destroy your phone or what not.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the2dcour:
QFT 10 char
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
Through the exploits the community uses? Absolutely. That's why Gingerbreak is patched. That's why rageagainstthecage and psneuter are patched.

Any company that releases an update for the device and ignores these flaws is being negligent.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
So then the answer in a perfect world would be? Have the phone manufacturers give us the keys/root access? (no sarcasm intended, just looking to learn something more)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] chria01:
root should be a check box like sideloading, but come defaulted as off. Unless of course google wants developers hunting for flaws.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] knigitz:
I didn't say "AT&T", I said "carriers" - same as what Motorola said in their official statement. I am saying that Motorola may not be able to unlock the bootloaders on all their phones on every carrier, based on that carriers specific contracts with Motorola concerning the individual phones. This seems consistent with the Motorola statement on the bootloader.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
Bingo. If the carriers and manufacturers gave us the tools to do what we were doing, we wouldn't need to be hacking the device to do it.

On the other hand, shipping a device with root access out of the box is sketchy as well because it leaves your phone vulnerable, and for people outside the community that's not something you want to happen. Most end-users don't even know what root is.

It's important to keep in mind that the community who root and modify their devices is a very tiny minority compared to every other user.

Sony took a step in the right direction by offering unlocks to those who requested them. Hopefully everyone will follow suit and we'll see more programs like this offered. This is the right way to do it, IMO, and protects end users as well as tinkerers.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
Thanks Ririal, then we better keep hammering on the handset makers. :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] marko!:
Ririal is the only person who has done anything of use on this thread either than ken. Thanks for your great work clearing tthings up with the trolls

sent from my rooted,

and chillin, canadian Motorola Atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] knigitz:
Contracts. They wont always be the same, and could also differ based on the specific phone. It's not like the carrier says "whatever you make, whatever it does, we will accept, Motorola" It has to be decided on both sides, and if Motorola does something the carrier doesn't like, and Motorola pushes for that feature, the carrier may in turn say "okay, you can have that. but you can't have this then"

I'm not saying this is the entire reason we have a locked bootloader, but I'm pretty sure it's a combination between both parties and not just Motorola or just the carrier that is the issue. In the end, they both agreed to sell and support a device with a locked bootloader. And I'm sure some carriers would push for this, also, which is why Motorola included that "disclaimer" in their statement.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
Well that's just not true. There's plenty of people doing things here and there, I generally just smooth it out and pack it up. Sogarth's work on webtop has been pretty amazing, as well as all the themers and tweakers who contribute to the device.

Let's not forget them :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] OSNPA:
Oh, the irony. :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] OSNPA:
So every other carrier around the world also pushed for a locked bootloader and Motorola just happened to have an excellent programming team that could accommodate? I'm not buying it. Motorola is too competent to just get strong-armed by all those carriers.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] OSNPA:
I originally read his statement like you did. He was just talking about this thread. I'm not one of the developers, but if I was one and posting in this thread, I wouldn't appreciate that trolling.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
the kernel of it will be also updated(im going back to topic) since gingerbread uses 2.6.35 kernels, what may have a lot of new things from moto

(off topic) how do i know my phone has bl unlocked?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Budske:
those are great news Ken!!

keep up the good work and i hope u find a way to root it...

ill be reading this post!!!

Good Luck!!!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] knigitz:
Obviously Motorola has an excellent programming team that can accommodate locking bootloaders. I don't see your point there.

As for "every other carrier in the world", I can't say what they pushed for. But we can all agree on one thing: they approved this phone with a locked bootloader to be sold and used on their network.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naplesbill:
The first one that comes to mind is the X10. The bootloader was not unlocked, it was bypassed. And it took a very long time for that to happen.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bongd:
Yep. I had the X10 since nearly day one and what a huge pain it was. I'm feeling like it's the X10 situation all over again. I almost want to get another HTC Desire Z.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ratchet556:
Anyone know if there will be a way for me to get the bell version of the gingerbread update when it comes out? like maybe they will have an sbf for download or something. i am on the french one and i am concerned i wont be able to get the official bell one.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] marko!:
from what I've read therevwill be an sbf for this update. Also moto is saying they want to update as soon as possible to all devices meaning there will probably be one you can get. Don't hold me to that though

sent from my rooted,

and chillin, canadian Motorola Atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] OSNPA:
Motorola is very good at locking their phones, they have proven to be the best. They obviously commit significant resources to locking them. You seem to believe they have an adjunct team sitting around waiting for a carrier to request they lock their bootloader on one - check that - all of their devices. That's quite a streak! Motorola obviously has no objections to locking them. You don't see my point...because my point is that you aren't seeing the obvious.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bongd:
I'm rooting on there being another release like the ones in France which gave us SBF files that were completely in tact. And hopefully Motorola makes good on their commitment to expedite updates to all carriers and not just the major ones they've committed to.

It'd be nice if carriers would just push the updates as soon as they get them and bank on the fact that their customers already have their respected bloatware.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mjh60:
Sir can you please tell me if crap ass vliingo is still tied in to the stock microphone?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
Very well put

sent from my gingerblur v4 atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] SuperUserMovado:
LOL I had the x10i(starting with donut) for over a year as well. But I would suggest you get the g2x it is blazin fast. Bad battery life though. I went from x10 to nexus s to g2x to atrix. I probably would have stuck with the g2x if my data plan worked with the phone
[Atrix 4G Android Development] fincan:
Are there any changes on Webtop?

Thanks.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lyon21:
Any benchmarks yet by chance?

Thank you sir!

Sent from my rooted, gingerblured badass atrix!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] MrCooper2012:
He already posted them earlier in the thread (somewhere around pg 3).

Anyways it is a beta build, and those are generally going to be slower than a final product. I believe he used Quadrant and was getting around 2500-2600, which is pretty much what we are getting now (maybe even a bit lower).

I wouldn't fret though, as this is just beta.

-Doogs™
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Yes. Keep in mind that this is a total beta build.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bongd:
I was going to get the G2X but I came across a good deal on the Atrix and it was a bit of a crapshoot with either phone. Overall I do like the phone, but there are a lot of small aggravations (namely the locked bootloader).

If I had HDMI mirroring in Landscape that'd alleviate a lot of my concerns. I would really love to use custom ROMs and Kernels too. Le sigh...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] NibblerWeather:
I apologize if it has already been dicussed, but is webtop performance any better? I would love to actually have a reason to get a lapdock.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bongd:
For an investment like that you'd probably want to wait for the retail release.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Netflix... works fine on the Gingerbread build!

http://briefmobile.com/netflix-on-the-motorola-atrix-gingerbread
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
Hay Kenneth, I know that you are not going to want to reveal the root method if achieved, but when you are successful, can you just let us know that you were able to? :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Due to secrecy agreements there will be no more discussion about root until the over-the-air update. Don't be worried, though. There will almost certainly be a way to root. :cool:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
Understand. ;)

Thanks Man for all the great info.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] REDFOCZ:
Can't wait to try gingerbread on the atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] link12245:
Quit giving us updates!!! It's like holding a pizza in front of an Ethiopian kid. Just not right, lol.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
You're better off with 2.2.2 at this point. This beta build is still slow (due to debugging) and a battery hog. Patience is key! :p
[Atrix 4G Android Development] chria01:
Easy for you to say as you keep rubbing it in our faces. Whatever I can wait.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] crnkoj:
thanks for all the info kenn. do you by any chance know if the wifi drivers are changed as compared to the 2.2.2? no worries if your not allowed to tell tho. :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] link12245:
Don't tell me that....that just means they're further away than we think.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] GhostXtreme:
Any thing new on WebTop ? Ubuntu version updated ?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Nah... they've got all the main bugs ironed out. Now they just need to optimize and finalize. I'm fairly certain they're pretty far along.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ghaztehschmexeh:
Hello. I could use some help compiling cm7. I plan to apply the usb host patch to the kernel after I have successfully got the kernel compiling. I've been following the guide here . However, I come across the following error:

arch/arm/mach-msm/acpuclock-7x30.c:32: error: conflicting types for 'acpuclk_power_collapse'
arch/arm/mach-msm/acpuclock.h:31: note: previous declaration of 'acpuclk_power_collapse' was here
arch/arm/mach-msm/acpuclock-7x30.c:47: error: conflicting types for 'acpuclk_set_rate'
arch/arm/mach-msm/acpuclock.h:30: note: previous declaration of 'acpuclk_set_rate' was here
make[1]: *** [arch/arm/mach-msm/acpuclock-7x30.o] Error 1
make: *** [arch/arm/mach-msm] Error 2

The make oldconfig also asked a few questions, for which I held enter down because I don't know how to answer them, and I had read somewhere that that leaves default values. I have extracted the config from my DHD and from the cm7 boot.img. Could anyone help me? I've been working on this far too long and I really could use some help. I follow that guide to the word and I can't get any further.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lancered:
I'm sorry if these are known question, I'm not an HTC Tilt 2 owner.

My dad owns this phone, I'd like to change the language to Spanish but nothing seems to do it. Any ideas?

Also he got a replacement phone as he wet his last one. What is the easiest way to transfer contacts? I downloading the Windows program but I think I need Outlook which I stay far away from. Is there any other way?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Nylo:
Unless he backed up his phone, ie. Sprite or kept his contact info on the sim card you will just have to manually build back his contact list.
[Desire HD General] taunouibo:
Hi!

Yesterday I found a new icon with exclamation mark on taskbar. Can you believe - it says - my DHD's internal storage is almost full (around 35MB was still available)! This is very weird as you know - DHD has around 1,1GB usable internal storage and it should be A LOT. After couple of hours another icon appeared - now the internal storage was completely full. It seemed very strange, because I haven't installed any new apps during last month. I deleted browser cache and removed some bigger apps, so I achieved around 60MB free internal storage.

In the morning - guess what - yes, the internal storage was completely full again! Tried to find big files, recent files, but didn't find anything interesting. So I decided to remove some more apps. Again, I achived around 29MB free storage, but as you can imagine, it decreased a little at a time.

Next step - I decided to remove my mail account (IMAP) and this finally stopped memory leak. Then I remembered, that around week ago I needed a mail, which was sent to me about 3 weeks ago. So I changed the mail preferences to download all mail during past month. This is about 500 mail messages - not too much IMO, as I left the message download limit unchanged (50kB per message).

Right now I don't have any mail accounts, but still have only 20MB free internal storage. Can you please tell me how to get clear of previous mail cache without hard reset and how to avoid this problem eventually?
[Desire HD General] zbunjoza:
Cache Mate in the Market will solve your problem
[Desire HD General] taunouibo:
Thanks, but as I'm using official Gingerbread, I don't have root access...
[Desire HD General] NeitherJohn:
Use Quick App Manager from the Market. The clean cache function of that app doesn't need root.
[Desire HD General] taunouibo:
How much space it needs? Right now I have 43M free ibternal storage, but CacheMate says - installation unsuccessful - not enough storage...
[Desire HD General] sromer:
what apps have you installed to your internal memory? and what size memory card are you using?
[Desire HD General] yandaosky:
Hey dude, i using accleaner to clear my cache. It use very small size of your internal and allow to move 2 app, try it and see does it solve your problem.