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[Android General] oroo708:
no update for SG version...huh :(
[Android General] phoxy84:
Looks like a change in the language and input settings... Can select more languages I think and option to choose input methode is gone... Am I correct?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
And the pointer speed, was that one available before?
[Android General] phoxy84:
Not sure, thought it was
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Yes, it was.
[Android General] phoxy84:
And was usb tethering always an option when connecting phone to pc?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I haven't seen that option before the update...
[Android General] phoxy84:
New input is better, lets you choose different keyboard for phone and station
[Android General] SparkyRih:
how?
[Android General] phoxy84:
Keyboard logo on bottom (on station) of screen or top (in phone). Looks like my both swiftkey works now when putting phone in or getting it out. I will test some more

Edit: now it doesn't work but it let's you select an other keyboard faster and easier

Also mail app is updated to new version. Now thread view is possible
[Android General] phoxy84:
Can we root? And if yes, how? App earlier in thread doesn't work
[Android General] SparkyRih:
They should make an option to allow a default keyboard in phone mode, and another default keyboard in tablet mode... thumb keyboard messes up bompletley when I undock the phone...
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
That's in 4.0.3 on mine.
[Android General] lord_neno:
expansys Spain : launch date 24-08-2012 (750€ with QWERTY KB¿?¿?) http://www.expansys.es/asus-padfone+station-230097/
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I noticed that the volume buttons on the phone switch places when rotating it XD

If you have it in portrait mode, down = vol-down and up = vol-up, but when you turn it to landscape mode (only with the asus logo to the right), up = vol-down, and down = vol-up...
[Android General] 3mL:
I really hope they fix the compability problem with sandisks' SDXC cards.
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
How can I get access with Android file manager (or any other one) to the Garmin's partition of the internal memory?

Thanks :)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Am I the first one who noticed that the dailer changed completley? XD

I just received a call, picking it up is still the same, but the buttons during the call have a different design...

Also the dailer in phone mode has a completley different style compared to the one in tablet mode (different color schems)... I liked the previous dailers better...
[Android General] Someone09:
What about the battery indicator?

Did they solve the inaccuracy?
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Maybe. At least battery apps show a reasonable voltage now, but temperature data is still strange (1C).
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I seem to be the person who has almost no problems, no wifi unstability, and I only saw the battery indicator give a false value once (about 2 weeks ago)... So I don't know...
[Android General] jlyne1234:
Mine seems to be stuck at the upgrade animation with no progress bar :/
[Android General] SparkyRih:
It doesnt'have a progress bar for some reason...
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
How long time is it stuck?

The update took 10-15 minutes in total for my case.

P.S. Maybe somebody knows, how can I get access with Android file manager (or any other one) to the Garmin's partition of the internal memory?
[Android General] phoxy84:
Gallery still freezes my phone sometimes. Have to pull battery then...
[Android General] jlyne1234:
Yeah it updated in the end. I've noticed that the total available RAM has gone up from 620mb to 685mb too.
[Android General] Seifer1975:
If your phone is rooted, there is a way to do this. You have to get the app "Secure Settings" from Google playstore, open it, install the helper, then check "input method" under options.

Then in your tasker, instead of using the "select input method" task, use plugin -> secure settings -> input method and it will let you select the input method you want to set. So now, when you dock or undock, the input method you want will be set automatically.
[Android General] oroo708:
how did you get 600+?? I only got max up to 300.. :confused:
[Android General] NineT9:
Got update (4.04) on my Tawain PadFone yesterday, so far so good! I see minor differences like dialpad, one thing I did notice that has slightly impacted my daily use is when I text people, I usually press ENTER on the keyboard and it sends my text... now when I press ENTER, it drops down to the next line (line break)... I tried looking in the settings can't find a way to change this

I don't mind the change, just not used to it. Glad to see how to finally make a line break though, wasn't able to figure that out before!
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Padfone soon to be released in Australia
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Secure Settings is telling me that Busy Box isn't installed, even though it was installed by Titanium and again, separately, by me from the Market.

Urgh.

Can anyone with the new OTA confirm whether the Market app now keeps it's settings between phone and tablet modes?
[Android General] Seifer1975:
Yes, I also had the same problem! I end up selecting install helper manually. It will download a zip file. I just extract the helper apk and manually copied it into /system/app
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Thanks, that's working now!
[Android General] Zergra:
I can´t wait of the release in Germany :)
[Android General] Seifer1975:
You are welcome. You will find that secure settings is a very handy tool that allows tasker to automate some things which android doesn't allow, eg turn on your gps.
[Android General] jlyne1234:
Total RAM not free RAM lol. I usually have 100-200mb free.
[Android General] RaithK:
Hy guys, I've been using my PadFone for about a month and kept following the forum. I just updated to 4.0.4 (and yeah the dialer sucks) but I lost root access, and debugfs is not working on this version. I'm feeling kind of naked without superuser :P so had I been using keeproot and apps like that would it have kept my root?

Also, I have the Taiwanese version (a relative brought it from over there, so I can't point you to any shop) if i just disable the bloatware, would it increase my speed. I previously froze them with Titanium, but when I saw people having problems with the OTA unfroze them and them OTA. Is disabling them the same thing?

By the way, as for keyboards I have swype beta, now it's suppoerted, and you can use it both for the station and the phone itself.
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
So when you use it in phone mode, switch to tablet mode, use it there, then switch back to phone, it still works?

Dang... want the OTA now :/

Did anyone manage to copy it out of /cache before installing it?
[Android General] RaithK:
Actually i installed it before the OTA and It's still working. Also, my swiftkey tablet can be a bit laggy, no such problema with swype.

About the OTA, Asus should post the sd card version of the update în a few days. I'm not too hyped about the update, just 3 things seem different:: the dealer which forget the Tab i used last, usb tethering (which i don't know How to test) ; and the sistem seems to have more ram available. I seean increased of about 50 mb at least. As i am writing this with my padfone i have about 250 mb available..
[Android General] 3mL:
You tried a SDXC card with the new OTA?
[Android General] Someone09:
Definately not working for me right now. Before the OTA that is.
[Android General] Alle090:
Ive been thinking, Ive seen some differences between the market on padfones. For example some can install and use tablet apps while some like my self cannot install some tablet apps. For example splashtop and Gta 3..

Could it be because when I first used my padfone and activated it and market I was in phone mode and not Tablet mode. Could this somehow have permanently made Market believe that my Padfone is a cellphone rather than a tablet?

But wierd enough I can see the tablet ads and such in Market?

Any one got any thoughts?
[Android General] RaithK:
I don't think it's related to when you activated the padfone it should still have the same device model. But you do have a point> I've installed the BBC app on my phone then Play Market said I can update it... but I was on the Station then so it installed the BBC tablet app (which won't work in phone mode). I think the market is the problem. It won't let me install distro, but if I sideload it it works perfectly
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I think the main issue (in my case) is the firmware region itself, since I have the TW version it won't allow me to downlaod some apps (for example the Dutch: RTL Nieuws 365 app, which works perfectly fine in tablet mode)...

And GTA3 is a phone and tab gaem btw... I've had it on my TF101, SGS2 and now on my Padfone...
[Android General] Alle090:
True, but I dont get GTA 3 on my phone and Play website says that my device is incompatible :-/

BUT I do have one issue, the controls ingame are for phone size, I think this is due to that I first started in phone mode and not tablet mode.
[Android General] RaithK:
Had a similar problem with Mass Efect, the countrygate error
[Android General] ric242:
NO WW firmeware update???
[Android General] Kermode:
Can ANYONE get Google Googles to work?

I can't take pictures in the app when i start it, the button just glows orange until i push it again but it doesn't take a picture.
[Android General] dimitriossara:
Iam waiting too the ww firmware update:(
[Android General] TNTPOP:
Looks like the battery is better since last update...

This week I drained the power like hell and had to recharge once a day.

Since new FW it stays very good... ;)
[Android General] RaithK:
I was thinking of going back to 4.0.3 in order to re-root my device then tryin too kepp root when I OTA again. Does anybody have tre previous TW firmware? I was thinking of using an SD card an the manual upgrade method to trick android that the old firmware would be in fact new. Would this work or do I have to try something else?
[Android General] grandmaster_b:
Hi guys I had my Padfone on Friday and have not been able to put it down so far.

I am from the UK and managed to get mine from expansys uk on pre-order for£599 which is for the 32gb phone and station no pen.

That looked to be the best deal in the uk because most are £650 +

Mine appears to be SG version but I can't complain because I paid for the 16gb versions as listed on the web site so I am happy for the free extra storage :)

I have rooted using the tool recomended on this thread and I am going to install OTA root keeper from the market which is supposed to keep root when you apply OTA updates however I am still on 4.0.3 I have searched briefly on here and it appears you can install or change your Padfone version to different versions so my question is:-

1) How

2) What is best to change to ?

3)I presume there is no risk of killing my Padfone ?

because with my old TF101 I had a US version and that seemed to get updates around same time as the WW but I see on here people have had 4.0.4 and when I click updates it says none available so guessing SG is last on the list :(

But my impression is :-

Pros

* All in one equipment no more syhcing with 2 or more devices

* Much faster than Asus TF101

* Plays 1080p MKV!

* Looks very slick

* Great value for 2 * devices

Cons

* Heavier than my TF101

* Can't go on the phone and play games on Pad at same time etc

* Market is not setup correct for device
[Android General] oroo708:
tried using iLauncher and Launcher 7. both working nice with switching display...*apple and windows users gonna look bad with this* :D
[Android General] T-zere:
nice concept
[Android General] Didgeridoohan:
Got the same issue. Using Swype and on switching from phone to tablet and back, the graphics get messed up. Quick switch from Swype to Asus keyboard and back fixes this.

Had an idea about this last week and contacted Asus. Made a feature request that you could add an option to the dynamic switch list to restart an app on change. This would probably make it work... The Swedish Asus rep thought it sounded like a great idea and sent it on to r&d. Just to wait and see...

Edit: Saw that they've managed to get Swype to work on switch... Nice. Let's hope the OTA comes soon...
[Android General] RaithK:
I don't get any such errors with swype, it is a little slow to adapt though,about one second lag.
[Android General] Someone09:
Now that´s weird.

How come only some of us have this problem?
[Android General] olly230:
http://www.netbooknews.com/48644/asus-padfone-unboxing-with-the-padfone-station-station-dock-video/

this is just teasing.
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
That's odd. The tablet dock looks much more rounded and Prime-esque, but then the keyboard looks more blocky and TF101-y.

So not scoring very high aesthetically.

That said, if I wanted shine over substance, I'd buy an iPad.

This still looks like the device for me, providing ASUS start actually selling the damn thing, and not overpricing it.
[Android General] Marlinn:
Well I guess it's available in Taiwan now, I hope they get to Europe soon too....
[Android General] Kozato:
Unfortunately its not.

I just came back from a holiday at Taipei, Taiwan and it will only go on sale on the 14th May according to 7-11, where you can pre-order the padfone. But some merchants are saying that the phone has been delayed to 31st May.

I am still under the 8 post count limit if not I could post the links here.

You can try googling "PChome padfone". The first link should lead you to a Taiwanese online PC merchant webpage for padfone pre-order. There it states that pre-orders will be delivered on the 31st this month.
[Android General] Marlinn:
Appearently the dock is compatible & nearly the same as the original transformer, does anyone have any experience with the keyboard quality of the original transformer? Is it good or bad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9feazxFGfJs&feature=player_embedded

(tegra 4 SoC in video :o)
[Android General] scottmog:
I had an original transformer and had no problems with the keyboard at all. Then again i had a netbook for 2-3 years before that.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
So you probably can use the original Transformer dock if you have one. This girl is infuriating though - she insists on comparing thickness in every video for minutes after minutes and leaves out obviously interesting points, like turning it on and show that it works? Nope, just continuing to show us these contours again and again. So many lost opportinities. Also she keeps on mixing up terms and names.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMrlQt4RntM
[Android General] MissionImprobable:
What do you guys think the chances of major development are on this? I'm loving the total package, but can't go without Roms so just wondering if anyone has input.
[Android General] Kozato:
I am hoping that the Asus Padfone would not come shipped with a locked bootloader. That would make root development easier.

I wished I knew how to hack an Android phone. That way I can help find out if the bootloader is locked and also contribute to developments for the padfone. I placed a pre-order for the padfone and my friend would help me collect it and send it over to me via DHL.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
I am pretty sure it will come with a locked bootloader. That is mandatory for accessing Goolge Play Movies AFAIK - not that that would matter in my country though. Asus did so with the Transformer Prime, but they also released an unlock tool later on (voiding the ability described above, of course). There will probably be such a tool for the PadFone as well, so this shouldn't hinder development.

But custom ROMs will not be easy due to the special nature of the PadFone. And I hope some good developers will take that as a challenge. :D
[Android General] Kozato:
I see. The padfone will be my first android device so I am not updated about hacking on the android platform.

From a review and discussion forum I read on Chinese sites, apparently the padfone has two separate libraries stored. One for the phone and one for the tablet. The phone switches between these 2 libraries depending on the whether it's docked or not.

I am not a programmer or hacker but I guessing that it may be possible to compile a custom rom that contains two libraries, made by combining two roms. For example CM for the Transformer and CM for a phone, like a HTC One S.

I am sure once the Padfone is launched globally developments will be really quick.
[Android General] bluebobx:
Now I'm confused, I thought we'd "proved" that the PF's dock isn't the same one as the TF101's - see earlier in this thread. If the two

are

the same then that'd be good for me - since I've already got the TF101. :D

Marlinn: keyboard quality on the TF101/PF-dock. It really depends whether you like these low profile "chiclet" keyboards or not (I don't). I wouldn't like to type a novel on it, but apart from that it's better than you think it'd be - imho not as good as my Logitech K800 but good enough to write a letter or a couple of long emails.. Only real problem (and this isn't just me!) is that the touch pad can get inadvertently brushed when you're typing and move the cursor. This is annoying, but then again Asus put that "trackpad disable" button on the keyboard - one press of that and the problem's solved.

Actually I'm not a big fan of trackpads either, so I'm quite happy to have it disabled and use the touch screen instead.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
I am not sure what you mean with two "libraries", but the PadFone doesn't run two seperate ROMs like e.g. the Motorola Atrix (that ran a stripped Linux in the notebook dock). It is just one ROM, the only thing that changes with (un)plugging are a few parameters like screen resolution and density. Even the apps (at least when adapted to DynamicDisplay) keep running on a change.

It isn't the same, but it is pretty close. The PadFone one doesn't bend back as much as the original Transformer's does - which results in the PadFone Station tipping over when you open it up as wide as it gets, because of the differences in weight and balance point. And the video showed a few more minor differences at the hinge.

If the software works, you can keep using your dock, but you need to be careful with how far back you push it open. It might be even a bit less stable than the matching PadFone dock at the same angle, if they redistributed the heavier components like battery.
[Android General] Marlinn:
@Bluebobx thanks for the comparison :)

This will be my first android device too (atm I still own an iPhone :o) so the modability isn't that important to me, but ofcourse, mods are always welcome ;)

http://cn.engadget.com/2012/04/20/asus-padfone-review-tablet/

Heres a pretty old review (on the original release date, 20 april), in Chinese so you have to use either Chrome or Google translate for it.
[Android General] Kozato:
What I meant was two libraries of settings/software configuration and database of apps. When I was in Taiwan, I got to have a little hands on with a demo set and it seems that you can have totally different widget/wallpaper/notification/default web browser configuration for phone and tablet; also tablet only apps will not start in phone mode, an error message will pop out and the application closes.

There's a better review for the padfone than the engadget chinese site. I still can't post links.

Currently I am keeping my fingers crossed that my 7-11 pre-ordered set does not get delayed.

Those who pre-ordered from the 20th April to 25th April through online merchants and service providers are receiving their sets today. The 2nd batch should be the 14th/16th May batch, for those who pre-ordered online before 8th April and through 7-11. After that, the rest of the pre-orders will be delivered from 31st May onwards.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Ah, that. No, you don't have a different set of apps. You only have a different set of homescreens, where you can put up individual app shortcuts and widgets. That the wallpaper differs is also quite logical, as it acts different in tablet and phone mode. But any app / widget you install in phone mode you can use in tablet mode as well, including user settings. Open the app drawer and they are all there. And I bet if you change system settings that aren't depending on the display (e.g. WiFi) that will be shared.

But you might have even revealed something new to me that would also make a lot of sense: different defaults for intents on tablet and phone mode. If you are not mistaken there, thanks for the heads up.
[Android General] bluebobx:
The tablet and the phone

modes

(remember that the "tablet" is just a display and battery dock for the phone) run the same OS image, so there's no need for two separate sets of apps. Having different "desktops" for each (widgets, backgrounds, etc) makes a lot of sense - e.g. a phone sized wallpaper would look silly on the tablet and vice-versa! ;) I'm not sure that having separate web browser configurations is smart though...

The block on tablet-only apps in phone mode (and presumably phone-only apps in tablet mode) makes sense too. Although it does raise the interesting question of what happens to a "tablet aware" app when the phone gets docked or undocked - would it (the app) be clever enough to switch modes automatically, or would it just close?

And I'm just soooo jealous you managed to get a hands-on. :rolleyes:

Don't worry - if it's the same as me then once you get to 10 posts, you'll be allowed to post links.
[Android General] hltt:
I'm tired of waiting for this phone
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
That has been discussed numerous times, in tablet mode, the Padfone is a tablet in every aspect. Of course the apps will run tablet activities instead of phone ones when they are designed that way. But if they are not prepared for DynamicDisplay, they need to be restarted.
[Android General] Marlinn:
Somehow I am able to posts links while I dont have 10 posts yet.. :D
[Android General] cty.stuart:
it shud still be on asus website available in zip file