yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Nice to know that Google Restore is probably the culprit for the really bad lag people are seeing after install.

I have never let Google restore more than a dozen apps so I never noticed the impact on the install/restore process that many are seeing. Truth of the matter is I just tested it awhile ago with a few apps to make sure it works. Now when I do a full install (almost daily) I make sure I uncheck the option when logging into the market. I also don't use any other backup tools but not because they are a problem but because I just don't install a lot of apps.

I probably have a dozen or so apps that I always install and I just copied them to my SD Card. I install them from my SD Card with root explorer and it goes pretty quick. That by the way is why I included EFS so I could use it to install Root Explorer first.

Random Thoughts:

If you are using Google restore for a large amount of apps then expect some lag in the early minutes or hour or so after the install.

If you are experiencing a lot of lag after a fresh install check to see if it is Google restore. Most people don't even notice the option is on when signing into the market.

If you are using any means to restore and that restore is from another ROM suspect what was installed if you are having problems with this ROM

If you are using any means to restore and that restore is from a prior version of this ROM suspect what was installed if you are having problems.

Try different radios to see which one gives you the best network speed and overall functionality. For me it is the 11.19 radio for my area.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
I used to let Google restore my apps months ago when these new GS ROMs first came to the Inc and I can attest to the fact that my phone took much longer than normal to "settle in." I have since allowed no auto restore of apps; I also skip through all of the selections when first running a fresh ROM (wifi setup, Google setup, etc.) and do that all manually afterwards and have experienced no settling in time or waiting periods for any ROM since.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Good suggestion. During install all I set up is my Exchange E-Mail since that also includes my contacts and appointments and skip all the rest.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] titans808:
Great Rom thanks. One request I have would be to edit the classes.dex (I think that's the right file) to remove the gps icon instead of just a blank image. Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] roxylove:
I was hoping that in a newer version of Sense HTC would allow for a Wiimote connection. Who was I kidding? I just tested it and obviously still does not work. Oh well!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KrisPeezy:
Nils,

I found that google talk's video chat doesnt stream video coming from our phones. Any ideas?

thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
Yeah the very first thing I do after skipping through the initial setup is set up wifi, then add my gmail account linked with all my work emails, appointments, contacts, etc. It syncs much faster for me that way and my phone becomes much more responsive very quickly after first boot of the ROM. After all of mmy contacts and appointments are synced properly, I start installing my apps, my previous texts, my widgets, etc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
100+ apps for some of you? Wow ... no wonder there's lag. I clean out my unused apps from time to time and only go with a load of the things I use on a daily basis. I can always re-install purchased apps from the market, or re-download free apps.

As far as "lag" goes, my expectation is that the phone is responsive a few seconds after wake (I understand having to load a couple things immediately) and that it never bogs down during regular use. As of yet, this ROM mostly satisfies these requirements. I have had a couple annoying wake scenarios but they were due to the weather lockscreen. Pretty, but laggy. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Flashing it now,

I have been wanting to try this rom and finally got the chance.

Thanks for the hard work
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbizzle:
Anyone else having gps/navigation issues? It is very inaccurate as to where I am...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
No problems , used it out of town all weekend , worked fine .

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC THUNDERBOLT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
My gps has been fine on the last two versions of this rom. If a reflash of this rom or reinstall of Maps doesn't resolve it, some folks suggest an app titled "gps status" to fix gps issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k1mu:
Nope, it's spot on. As in accurate enough that the GPS fix shows me on the right corner of my house.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] roxylove:
Hello all,

I'm on my second full day of Nil's rom and I am very impressed, but have a couple questions that hopefully you all can lend some insight to.

This rom is very clean and feels very smooth for the most part. However, there are times when the screen "freezes." The "buttons" still give off haptic feedback but the screen is non responsive. The only way out of it is to put phone to sleep then unlock and it has "caught up." This seem to happen quite often, but mostly when I am toggling between a variety of tasks. This has never happened before when on a Froyo rom. Do any of you experience a similar phenomenon? In case you are wondering, I am well past the initial lag that comes from booting up the phone.

Also, do I need to flash a different radio when using this Gingerbread rom? I've always used Froyo and this is my first GB rom. I have noticed my 3G goes in and out alot but am not sure if I'm just catching it at the wrong times. I've had no trouble texting or making phone calls. Earlier today I was streaming a live game broadcast and there were a few interruptions, however nothing major. My current radio is 2.15.00.07.28.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Gps Status works great.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC THUNDERBOLT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bchandler78:
Video Playback Stretched

I recently installed 2.2 from a fresh wipe. Like all the past ROM's everything seems to work good (THanks Nil's) however video playback is really stretched and almost unviewable. The video itself is fine viewed on computer but not on phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Gps problems are radio problems, not rom problems.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Roxylove, Nils recommends 11.19 radio, but YMMV. I don't think it's the radio creating the perceived lag. I think it's more likely the system swapping things in and out of memory.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] roxylove:
What exactly does a different radio DO for a Gingerbread Rom? I know it is how we get our reception and our data speeds, but can it really be that different? I've always wondered if one could flash a 4G radio to a 3G phone and get the increase in data speed, however last I checked it was not possible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
running 2.2 here nils, doing well. how's anything coming with the notification dropdown lag? sometimes it lags up to 5 sec which is still kinda annoying :-\

i just put BAMf on my buddy's tbolt, they figured out how to get rid of the recent apps in the dropdown.. hopefully you're getting somewhere with that one too ! all in all, great build as usual
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KrisPeezy:
For some reason my brightness settings don't stick... I'll change it to auto, or ~40% through quick settings tab, but it changes back to 100% every time i plug in my phone, and stays at 100% up until i have to change it back down.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I think this ROM is actually reporting the 3G/1X pretty accurately so as long as you are not having problems no sweat. I do like 11.19 best but you can try it and see if it helps

Playback is only good in landscape is taken in landscape or it stretches.

Don't know what to do about pulldown since I am not experiencing the lag. Maybe a second once in awhile.

That is weird. Try changes it in settings and see if that helps.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Where can I find the link for the 11.19 radio ??

I GOT IT.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oletheos:
i came back to this rom after being gone a week or so and grabbed the 3d version. VERY cool. im liking it alot. only question is i remember on one of the earlier releases being able to change the lock screen icons to something else instead of some of the stock stuff. I can't find how to do that again, am i just missing it or is it not in the rom still?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Settings -> Personalize -> Lockscreen -> Settings
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oletheos:
yep thats it. thanks so much
[Droid Incredible Android Development] BigTSetter:
Google Music Beta???

Great ROM! Really love the work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k1mu:
Google Music works fine for me, both from locally stored media as well as with streamed from the cloud. All I did was install it and sign in.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, when taking pics, a lot of the times when you exit the camera app, your phones stuck on full brightness. have to go and put it back to your settings but it does it almost every time for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I can't get it to do that. I set brightness to 50% took a picture with and without the flash and no change. I thent tried it with it set to auto and no change.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oletheos:
course now that i have what i want in there i've noticed that no matter what you pull the ring to it just goes to my main screen adn stops after the 3d spin
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
I think they mean: go into your camera app then press the back button and then your brightness adjusts to 100% on its own. That's quite a random bug lol idk if it matters but I did this on the 3d version of 2.2

EDIT: I must add, its more of a glitch not a bug IF it occurs for any of you. I notice its more my phone failing to readjust to my selected display settings once I back out of the camera app promptly after activating the app itself. I couldn't replicate it too well if I allowed my camera app to settle in for a few seconds.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
pull the app icon INTO the ring.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oletheos:
damn. thats it. leave the rom a week and everything gets forgotten
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
Nils, just had a hard reset on 2.2...took a pic, and in the preview screen it just reset out of nowhere.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
man, i don't get it. it's happened on EVERY gigersense rom for me i'm pretty sure. it can get quite annoying, but i can't be the only one seeing this, i can't understand what i'm doing different than anyone else.

nils, try this.. stay in the camera app for more than twenty seconds. .. turn your brightness to 40%, which is what i use all the time. i can reproduce this every time almost. when i'm done and i hit back to go back to home screen, it's on max brightness bc the camera app turns screen brightness to 100 to take pics and it's supposed to go back to your normal brightness after you exit.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
I keep my brightness down to 24% it got a little brighter in the app but nowhere near 100% also it went back to the proper 24%... then i did what you just said same thing went back to 40%.

Perhaps it is because you are using an amoled. I tested on my slcd it didnt do it. Try doing a clean install of nils rom and make sure not to restore the camera app...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
yeah i was gonna ask nils if he's got an amoled but i thought i remember seeing that he did...maybe not though.

believe me man, i've done fresh wipes and installs of all gingersense roms, but they've all done this to me :-\
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
Any SMS sent to <mynumber>@vtext.com are showing up coming from "Anonymous" instead of the sender's email address. The email address of the sender is the first text in the actual message, so at least I know who it's coming from, but it would be nice if they would all get their own threads instead of being lumped under Anonymous. Also, it makes it impossible to reply to them. (For me, this is mostly for nagios pages from work so it's not a big deal not to be able to reply, but it might be for someone.)

I've had problems with receiving texts sent to vtext.com before, but last time it was a different problem and I tracked it to Handcent, which as a result will never be installed again on my phone.

Just me? Or Gingersense Messaging app in general? Anyone else?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Jay, just followed your steps to the letter; took two shots. Still at 40% screen brightness. I can't reproduce it here.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
My brightness does not change at all when I take a photo. Checked it after 3 photos.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC THUNDERBOLT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
do you guys have amoleds? my brightness, ever since pre rooting, ALWAYS shoots up to 100% when getting into the camera app, i suppose to be able to see the screen the best. then after, it'll change back. always has done this, not sure if lcd does it too or not...i can check on my buddy's tbolt later tho
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
I have an Amoled screen.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC THUNDERBOLT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Mine is Amoled but I tried it on an SLCD this afternoon and it didn't do it on it either.

I hate it when I can't duplicate a problem. If I can't break it I can't fix it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KrisPeezy:
jayochs i'm on the same boat as you. amoled screen and brightness shoots up to 100% in the camera app, back out and it stays at 100% rather than my original settings.

Nils, this must've been the cause to my brightness changing on it's own...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Does it do it when it is on auto or just when it is set to a %
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Hey man, I could replicate that bug as well and I have an amoled. I don't see it as a problem, for me, cuz I don't take pics. In addition, I have to go out of my way to replicate this bug so it won't affect me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] boyer61:
Is there an option that i can set my text messages to delete after a certain amount?

I know there was a setting somewhere, in some rom i was using..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
In text Settings > general
[Droid Incredible Android Development] boyer61:
Thank you for your quick reply!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
thank god i'm not the only one with a problem haha, it makes me think my phones a factory defect sometimes :P

this has done it on ALL gingersense roms. nils, is the sense camera in here different than the one you used in your Z-Rom? i don't think it ever did it back then, i think this just started with gingerbread.

also, is there any sort of a program that can log whats going on that i can do while this happens? maybe i can create a file for you and send to you and you can check it out to see if anyhtings happening?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Hahaha trust me, you're usually not alone when it comes to random issues. "log cat" in the market should serve you well. I've seen a few folks mention it especially. the dev. for launcherpro.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
As in alogcat?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Love this thread. Hardly have to answer anything. HaHa

Side question. Have any of you found a 3.0 mail that works on this ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I don't think it is the camera. I think it is in the services since we also have the issue of the hard buttons staying lit. Could also be the brightness widget but may be able to tell with a logcat
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
I'm interested in this too. I haven't even been able to tell which gingersense roms have the 3.0 mail installed cuz they seem to omit "Mail 3.0" wording in their respective OP.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, would it matter that i'm using Brightness Profiles app? i'll post a log in a few

soo, i'm really pissed. ever since installing logcat, it WON'T reproduce this error now. wow.

GOT IT. haha

http://pastebin.com/XW6REucU

check it there nils. it should be the second time i opened the camera app i believe....the first time it didn't do it, but the second time it did
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I think it may actually be the camera. There were 3 memory leaks in the second shot that were not in the first. I suspect that made the camera close out without doing all it's cleanup. I will see if I can find a camera that will work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
The only ones that have the 3.0 email are the ones that are pure 3.0. All of the mixed ones have the 2.1 email
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
sweet deal nils, i'll be here to test for ya
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Hmm, good to know. Guess I'll test one tomorrow so I can see this new mail app and see what's good with it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KrisPeezy:
sorry for the late reply... but it does it in either auto or a set %

btw, is there a setting in the xda app to put a notification when someone replies to me?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
There is a notification setting.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC THUNDERBOLT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Give this camera a try. It is from the Inc 2 leak and seems real nice and works. Hopefully it fixes you brightness problem

Never mind: It takes pictures fine but camcorder closes it. I found what I thought was the correct libs but there must be more that I am missing. Back to the drawing board

Stick with the original camera for now since all it does is periodically reset the screen brightness.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
ah damn! getting closer!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yeah, I thought I nailed it but then tried the camcorder and it crapped out on me. I have tried 8 or 9 different cameras with no luck and it is not worth losing the video record just for the brightness quirk
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
yeah, that's pretty weird of a bug. same with the LED's always being on lol, i don't get what's up with that either
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
So is there any reason *not* to download a Pure Sense 3.0 ROM, pull the mail.apk out and try it with Nils' Business GingerSense? (Other than the usual risks of bricking my device, crashing the Google servers, and destroying the city of Pittsburgh?)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I would appreciate anyone who tries any of the 3.0 mail apks. The worst that will happen is FC of the mail program.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Pulled the Mail.apk out of Kingdom Stock Sense 3.0 Release 5. Ran the "update."

FC in Mail app. Now rolling back (requires a Nandroid restore.....)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Is 3.0 mail for all mail or just exchange mail ??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Everything but gmail
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Is there a recommended link ??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] planedoc:
I've tried most if not all of the 2.1/3.0 roms and by far this is the best one. Even my wife thinks its nice and quick..thats saying something..lol, she doesnt notice much, but she did that...good jobs Nils
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
I tried a while back with the one from Hybrid 3.0 but was unable to get it to work. Although I have not tried it on the 3d version of Nils'. I was running his regular and I believe it was either version 2.0 or 2.1.

I'm currently running the latest MIUI because I'm messing around a bit with theming but I'll be back on Nils' before too long.

*If I have helped you, please don't forget to hit the thanks button*

Sent my my Inc using XDA App
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I think the problem is that it's not just the Mail.apk file that you need to deal with if you step up to 3.0. When I first rooted my Incredible, one of the first things I tried to remove from the ROM was Mail.apk because I knew the HTC Mail application was horrible with memory and caused all kinds of issues. Problem was, once I removed it, I lost all Outlook Exchange functionality, so there's clearly a tie in with the Accounts module of Settings. In other words, it's more than an apk to update the Mail application to 3.0.

I believe I shall wait until other more intrepid souls have figured this out. This particular Nandroid restore was a *****; the radio stopped responding for a bit (no BT, no 3G, no phone, no wifi). That was a fun few minutes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Download ratio is at 6 for 3D - 5 for Regular

Wish I could change the poll to see what people are really running since the downloads do not truly reflect what people are running
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Running 3D.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC THUNDERBOLT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
Running non 3d you could close this thread open a new one for the 3d and have the new poll there or simply put a poll thread in the general section.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Me too. Actually I run both but 3D is on my work/primary phone.

I thought about that but the only difference is the 3D so it seemed like it would be redundant.

I would be just as happy if the mods would remove the poll for me so I can start a new one but I am getting no response from the request I sent.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Yeah , they are bad about that.

I use my tbolt at work ( ton of ram and 4G) and when off I use 3D on a daily basis.

Sent from my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ianPhillips1:
Nils ,been running 3d for a few days and its been rock solid.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I think I have the camera fix for the brightness changing but I need it tested.

Worst case scenario we have a better camera. It is from the official Evo. I have modded it some since the manual rotate button does not work so I turned it into an exit button.

Try it and let me know

Camera Download - Install in recovery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Tested new Evo camera . Worked fine , no change in brightness setting on my phone.

Sent from my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks for testing

Took 47 pictures with various brightness settings and it has not change yet. Maybe I got the right combination of camera and libs this time.

Now for Jayochs to chime in
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I added the stock keyboard with arrows to post 3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
Haven't had any brightness issues with the camera, but I'm all for a better one. Anything I have to wipe before flashing?

Since a total wipe and flash, 3d works fantastic.

Thanks a million times over.

Nils' Business GS 3d... It's Incredible!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
haha hey nils, ugh i slept in today! i'll give it a download and try her out. should i nandroid or is there a regular stock camera i can flash back over in case this one breaks or anything?? i'm pumped!

oh also, i'm using non3d here. i don't like the carousel too much haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
No need to wipe to install it

And thanks for the feedback

Nandroid is your friend. I just keep a nand backup of major milestones and if I break something I just go back to that.