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[Acer Iconia A500] Vereynn:
As most posts above have stated, the biggest differences are:

USB Host: Acer (built-in) vs. ASUS (on dock)

Display: ASUS generally better than Acer's (unless you get a unit with light bleed)

Build quality: Acer generally feels better made than ASUS

Bootloader: ASUS has an unlocked bootloader vs. Acer's locked

For me the biggest thing in this list is the onboard USB host. Being able to plug in a USB drive without having to carry around essentially 1/2 of a netbook to dock the unit into is a major win for the Acer.

The display issue is really pretty minor I think, unless you want to set your tablet up on a desk and watch a movie while moving around, in which case the ASUS' ISP display will be better with less viewing angle restrictions.

Other items to consider:

ASUS ships with Exchange support, although that's been added in the latest firmware update to Acer's tab; in addition, rooted Acers are able to use the ASUS apk, and some Market Apps (Touchdown is my favorite right now, particularly with the $7.99 pro license from Amazon appstore vs. $19.99 normally)

Update frequency: ASUS has apparently been pushing updates out more frequently

ASUS is more likely to get 3.1 update out first, although Acer's also said they'll be shipping it in June (test of ASUS' 3.1 has already been spotted)

Acer has better sound system (Dolby Mobile)

Final thoughts:

The issue w/ the Acer screen coming back on randomly appears to have been resolved in the latest firmware (mine hasn't turned itself back on since the .114 update).

ASUS in general appears a bit more committed to the Android platform than Acer (at least after the replacement of their prior CEO.)

Oh yeah, and you can BUY the Acer a lot more easily than the ASUS :rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] lord_voldemort666:
The only reason the Asus has gotten more updates is because it had way more bugs than the Acer initially....
[Acer Iconia A500] foxmeister:
Sorry, but that is just FUD!

There are plenty of reasons to pick an Acer over an Asus, and vice-versa, but this frankly isn't true.

Regards,

Dave
[Acer Iconia A500] oasisautospa:
A Very Big +1

Don't need updates every week for something that isn't broke.

I have had generic tablets. Viewsonic G.tablet. Xoom. And tried the transformer of a friend(he later returned it for Acer). I am very happy, with my A500 as is my friend. Sure there are a couple bugs here and there...but for 98% of the time I use my tablet...it just works. :-) I pick it up and it almost seems eager to do all I want it too.

As for what to pick...want a tablet...get the Acer....want a net book with identity crisis...get the Asus. Or sit on the fence...a few months down the road...bigger names will enter the game and may have a more current version of honeycomb or ice cream sandwich or whatever google finds in their cafateria that sounds tasty :-D
[Acer Iconia A500] akwaba972:
Hi,

i have hesitate for a long time between transformer and a500. And now, don't know why so long hesitating, because a500 is far more efficient than the transformer.

My unique "regret" is the non avaibility of the 16Gb version wich is at the same price than the 16gb transformer.

Transformer is the tablet who makes you dream when you have to buy : ips is the best, the dock is nice idea, water theme is fun... But in reality, i can't find one to buy where i live. An more, if i want usb, have to buy the heavy dock (big major issue). The IPS is really nice... IF it's perfect as ipad... and it's not ! because quality built of transformer is not as good as it seems to be. Asus is active about their transformer (updates), because they are in late, it's seems have been built in emergency at many points, to solve now.

Acer is far more efficient. no hard (and loose time) developpment for any dock to fixed to the tablet, used spva screen which is really availlable (all ips are used by ipad), full simple connectivity, don't loose time on thick (like samsung), don't loose time on weight (few grams more and so ?), and maybe some less quality "electronics" (wifi, gps ?). But the tablet is really available, even here in martinique (it's a sign^^), and it really works well in my hand, it's a fact, it's not a dream, it's a fact.

For the updates activities : asus want to do well and have to work hard to be really good if they want to follow acer tab a500 who already sell their tablet in mass. Acer seems more confiant in their product, take time for update and 3.1.

at this time i have NO reasons to wait transformer, and for sure if acer know that, asus know that too
[Acer Iconia A500] ahsya:
What akwaba972 said is exactly how I felt. I'm no longer thinking of Transformer right now. It's sweet, but if you can only dream of it, forget it!
[Acer Iconia A500] Lectruck:
Which way do I go!!!

I too am torn between the Transformer and the A500. I do not have either one of them but first leaned to the Transformer because of it low price. But one could not get it anywhere around. Since then I have been reading and now lean toward the A500 because of the USB ports. I may be a few bucks more but seem like a better build.

Thanks!!
[Acer Iconia A500] Digiguest:
Well it appears that fate has smiled upon me. I just got $400CDN from a friend of mine that I forgot owed me money! I have then decided to get BOTH....for now.

The Acer Iconia will be purchased when I can get up to Owen Sound Staples or will be ordered from NCIX.

The ASUS Transformer has been already ordered from NCIX and has been shipped already ( 16GB Variant ) and depending on the quality and on how I like it then and only then will I purchase the dock.

I will continue this thread to help other people out and see how these two tablets fare. If I decide to keep them both then I will sell my iPad as I will have no use for it. ( Wifi 16GB 1st Gen )
[Acer Iconia A500] magicpork:
bear in mind, the asus transformer is getting a 3.1 update today, so it's safe to assume ASUS is argubly more dedicate to the firmware support than Acer. and no one seems to mention in this post the dock gives extra 6-7 battery hours plus TWO usb ports, this is crucial to me as I normally want to plug in both of my western digital passport and a mouse...(and now you can even use two xbox360 controllers!)
[Acer Iconia A500] Digiguest:
The 3.1 update will be the absolute FIRST thing that I will do with both devices as I get them.

I feel like a kid with a new toy...come on Purolator where ARE YOU!!!! LOL!!!
[Acer Iconia A500] akwaba972:
I make a cruise ship in april, and many people on it have an ipad or ebook reader.

It's at this time my wife tell me she will like to have one, and me looking for the best tablet (except the locked ipad).

If i take the example of this ship cruise, i can easily imagine somebody give me his usb key to quickly share immediatly some pics or songs on my a500 who is in the bag with the towel. Easily reload the tablet at night (8 hrs nice enough for a day).

With the transformer, first, i have to carry the dock in luggage , but still ok for now. AFTER, when l'm on the pool deck and someone give me an usb key... have to go to my room, get the dock, back, connect for finally have the usb accessibility. I cannot have the dock already at pool, because it take more place, very more weight and finally may be you do not use it at all.

Of course, it's not a dramatic issue, it's just a real example of use among many others. acer in my example is an all in one simple device.

but i agree that in your case, the dock may be fine.
[Acer Iconia A500] wutname1:
I wanted the Transformer for a long time i bought the Iconia last week since i wanted a tablet for a week long work trip, i love it, with the full size USB i can mount my NTFS 1TB drive and watch my 12GB 1080p videos, you cant do that with any other tablet.

Transformers only pro to me is the dock... but go look at logitechs new bluetooth keyboard that is also a stand...
[Acer Iconia A500] Digiguest:
Well I got my TF....still waiting on the Acer. :(

Time will tell........
[Acer Iconia A500] rokspa:
I have both the TF and a500 and while both are good tablet, I have to say that the a500 has a far superior build quality than the TF.

MY TF touch screen stop working after 2 weeks. Ask to speak with a supervisor because they want to charge me for shipping back the defective TF. They hang up on me 3 times and after many hours on the phone I had to pay to ship it back to them.

That is why I went to buy the a500. I'm not sure if it is the alloy back but the build is solid and doesn't flex like the TF.

I saw on the ASUS forum that some twist the frame and the touch screen stop working than they twist it again than the touchscreen work again. I'm not sure if it is because the back of the TF is made of plastic which cause it to flex and causes problem with the touchscreen.

I'll probably sell the TF after it is repair since I'm afraid it will happen again.
[Acer Iconia A500] M..N:
I too am torn between the two, but im leaning more towards the iconia. The only thing i like about the transformer is the ips screen and that it has an unlocked bootloader. I do believe though the iconia screen is still crisp and high quality and the bootloader will eventually be unlocked. Now the only thing im not sure about the iconia is the problems with wifi disconnecting and screen coming on by itself continuously. Are these still there or have they been fixed.
[Acer Iconia A500] Canadoc:
Actually you won't be able to view either tablet in sunlight by the pool

Too much glare.
[Acer Iconia A500] JdgM3NT4L:
Since the pictures being '"meh"'part hasn't been addressed I thought I would share a few samples of some shots I took around the yard just now.

Should wash that thing off sometime...

It isn't the greatest camera around, but the pics that it takes aren't just too 'meh'. To be sure the object of the photo must be pretty still. In my opinion motion has a overly negative effect on the camera when taking pictures. I really think that this will turn out to be a software fix, but who knows.

As far as video goes I made a short clip at a childs recent birthday party and I thought that it came out pretty well.
[Acer Iconia A500] Digiguest:
Not bad pics.
[Acer Iconia A500] akwaba972:
Yes you're right ^^
[Acer Iconia A500] Kermode:
Nonsense, new updates can add new featuers.
[Acer Iconia A500] vari9:
I just bought the acer iconia a few days ago and all I can say is that the device is a great piece of hardware......and one more thing...it doesn't support 1080p playback(mp4)....the videos play in the 3rd party softwares but.....audio-video is out of sync...I believe acer would fix this in their next update while adding 1080p hdmi out......
[Acer Iconia A500] umanko:
I think acer is heaver only coz of its aluminium back which is well worth it . TF icost less and already become popular among masses which makes it kinda nexus 1 of tablets .
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
[APP] App Stack - App launcher Widget for Android Honeycomb (1280 & 1024 Support!)

App Stack is a widget that allows you to launch any of your favorite Apps fast and easy.

Our widget is simple to use and configure. You have the ability to add or remove any App you have installed. Once an App has been added to App Stack, the App can be launched from the App Stack Widget. You can move and resize App Stack anywhere on your screen (resize supported in 3.1 only).

Categorize your stacks with up to 5 different stacks for app groups!

Customize your stack by setting the background color & text color to match your theme!

Taking advantage of Android Honeycomb stack widget technology App Stack gives you a fun, cool, and easy way to launch your favorite App! Use App Stack as your one stop App Launcher

Free Version

https://market.android.com/details?id=app-com.pocketappbuilders.appstackfree

I've also included the free version as an attachment to this post

Paid

https://market.android.com/details?id=app-com.pocketappbuilders.appstack

I appreciate any and all feedback :-)

Johnny
[Android Apps and Games] d11dog11:
Requested item could not be found for both links.
[Android Apps and Games] jganyard:
Can't find in market. Will not install from web market on my device. Acer Iconia a500
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
** EDIT **

I'm not sure why its not showing up. I'm doing some research and will get back to you. Thanks again for the feedback.

** EDIT **

Are you running Android Honeycomb?

Thanks for the feedback
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
If you search for app stack free on android market via a web browser you should find it. Are you also having problems with my links to the app?

Thanks for the help! :)
[Android Apps and Games] Sugerg:
Love the Idea, but as mentioned on other comments, not showing in market app on device and on the web store it's not showing as compatible with my device (Asus EEE Pad Transformer running h/c 3.1)
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Thanks. Can you try the links again. I updated them. I was missing the app- value from the URL.

I appreciate the help.
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Can anyone confirm if they are logged out of their Google Account and Search Market via a web browser that they can find my app. Here is a link to my search results. I'm not logged in and my app is showing up about 5th down in the results.

https://market.android.com/search?q=app+stack&so=1&c=apps

Thanks in advance for the help/!
[Android Apps and Games] ayman07:
It doesn't allow me to install on any of my honeycomb tablets but it does show up online.
[Android Apps and Games] hudster2001:
I found it and downloaded the free version. I'll give it a go.

Edit

When i tried to use it i just got a load of FC's
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Thank you for the feedback. If you can please do me a favor and report the FCs so they should up the on my dev panel that would help a ton. I really appreciate it!

Johnny
[Android Apps and Games] maxib123:
wheres the gingerbread love??? :)
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
For the people who could not download my app. I have included it in the orignal post as an attachment.

Thanks again :)
[Android Apps and Games] grasshoxda:
installed it on my xoom, added the widget to home screen, taping it gives an fc and the message about sending the bug report. my xoom is on tiamat 1.4.2
[Android Apps and Games] orihuri:
Cant find it in the market and the apk cant install mate
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Ehehe. I need to get it installed first :)

Hmm. I'm sorry about the FCs. Sounds like you were not even able to send a bug report :( Thanks for the help!

I'm trying to figure out why some devices are not supported. What is your config? Thanks for the report!
[Android Apps and Games] 50-3:
Hey bought the app and love it.

Any chance of getting multiple stacks.

Was hopeing to have one stack for games, social, dev, ect...

Also when i fist used it i got FC after FC after FC but once i went into the app in the app drawer and configured it i had no problems.

Thanks,

50-3

PS if you want me to help with system testing shoot us a PM i have good knowledge of ADB and DDMS i have free time now i lost my tech support/system testing job (there reason was i was to tech minded and they wanted a someone with beter customer skills)
[Android Apps and Games] grasshoxda:
cool! i also got it to work no prob in the app drawer, just not initially from the actual widget
[Android Apps and Games] MrWicket:
would love to see this on phones also! great idea and since we're more limited on screen space would be very handy, make it do contacts also and we have a winner for sure! :D good job and I look forward to seeing where this goes, I'd be willing to test also.
[Android Apps and Games] grasshoxda:
got paid version
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
First I want to say thank you to everyone! I really appreciate the feedback. My response to the latest posts are below.

****** GET THE UPDATE ******

I just uploaded a new version to Market that supports changing the background colors. Please let me know what you guys think. I plan on adding more colors soon :)

****** GET THE UPDATE ******

Thank you for the support! I appreciate the feedback. Any FCs you have if you can please report them I will work on getting them fixed

I appreciate the feedback. Thanks for the support!

Thanks for the feedback :)

Thank you and I appreciate the support!
[Android Apps and Games] The_Tech_Ninja:
Works very well. but it throws off my whole theme. Maybe some skin support? Once this is added I'll be purchasing and using!
[Android Apps and Games] kumarshah:
Already bought, an app/widget that puts HC to excellent use.

Few suggestions:

1. Transparent Skin (would be great)

2. Icon only option maybe? So, that would be like a 1x1 widget, or 2x1/1x2

3. Ability to add multiple widgets to have them act like folders
[Android Apps and Games] blazingwolf:
Nice app. Couple of things I would like to see.

1. Ability to change widget size. I would actually like it to be a bit bigger.

2. Ability to have multiple stacks (mentioned before but this is my vote for it).

I only found the free version of the app in the market with my Acer Iconia and search.
[Android Apps and Games] kumarshah:
Widget size can be increased if you on HC 3.1
[Android Apps and Games] the_hd2_cracker:
Works very well on my Acer Iconia Tab!
[Android Apps and Games] The_Tech_Ninja:
Thanks for adding background colors.

I purchased it for my xoom and my dads!
[Android Apps and Games] djluis48:
Doesn't show on the market. And i can't install the one in the OP, it tells me ''Problems parsing the package''....:(
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Thanks again everyone for the support, I really appreciate it!

I have a few questions below. :)

On the transparent skin. Are you thinking something totally transparent? Just want to make sure because the next feature I am adding would tie into this idea nice

I like this idea :)

Are you still having problems finding the paid version on Market?

On your requests; I'm looking into number 2 :)

Thank you for the support!

No problem. I plan on adding more colors. If you have a request, send the RGB value and I will try to get it into the next build.

I'm trying to figure out how to get Market to show the app to all devices. I hope to get this figured out soon. Thanks for the feedback.
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Amazon App Store Option

I've just uploaded the current version to the Amazon App Store. Its under review now. The old version is available. Can the people that are having problems downloading from the Android Market see if its available for download via the Amazon Market?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0053CZPIW

Thanks in advance for the help!

Johnny
[Android Apps and Games] ssserpentine:
Its there. Is there a free version to try?
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Not yet. I will upload it tonight; but will note... It took them 7 days to approve the current version that is there. I'll posts again here once I've uploaded the free version.

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm hoping the people that were having problems with Market can download from Amazon.
[Android Apps and Games] jjsoviet:
Love the paid version. More widget sizes and backgrounds would definitely be appreciated; I myself would like to have a clear stack with the Holo blue glow as the outline. An option to adjust the scrolling interval will be nice too.
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Thanks for the support! I will look into your requests and I appreciate the feedback :)
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Hey guys,

Just wanted to let you know I added some more stack colors and a new feature that allows you to set the app name text color! :) Enjoy and let me know what you think :)
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
App Stack 2.0 Preview

Hello all,

I wanted to post some screenshots of the upcoming 2.0 update. The main feature added in 2.0 is

MULTIPLE STACKS!!!

Here are a few screenshots

I hope to have the update out soon. As you can see, i'm pretty far along and have a version already out for testing :)

Please let me know what you think.

Johnny
[Android Apps and Games] ayman07:
i recently did a review for your app on my site. your doing an excellent job! multiple widgets was one thing that was truly needed! i actually JUST bought the full version minutes ago too so I hope to see the update soon. one thing i wish was the ability to add a the background picture relevant to the app itself. maybe pull the background image from the android market or something. that sounds like a big request but at least, if there was an option to let us choose our own background for each app icon, that would be great! keep up the good work. my review can be found here:

http://asustransform.com/2011/06/04/asus-transformer-honeycomb-apps-of-the-week-2/
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Thanks for the feedback and support. I appreciate it.

I have added your background feature request to my dev notes to look at for a future release.

Thanks again!

Johnny
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Multiple Stacks support is here!!!

New update should be rolling out to you guys. I've already updated Market :)

Along with multiple stacks you can also

Set the stack name

Set the stack name color

and a few bug fixes

Please let me know what you think!

Here is a screenshot
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Todays update comes with support for 1024 x 600 screen resolution. Please send me your feedback :)
[Android Apps and Games] firstflyer:
I tried to buy this in the market after going there from the free app and it tells me- device is not supported. This is on an Acer A500 Iconia. I really like this and would like to buy. Some help would be greatly appreciated!
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
You can try to get it from the Amazon store.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0053CZPIW

Let me know if you are able to download it from there.

Hope this helps.

Johnny
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Hey guys.

Just wanted to let you know I updated the user interface so all stacks are contained within one interface. Also fixed a few bugs that were reported.

Please let me know what you think of the changes.

Thanks again for the feedback!

Johnny
[Android Apps and Games] jjsoviet:
I immediately noticed it too. By the way, I would love to have one particular stack color - invisible with light blue line borders, to complement the entire Holographic UI look. Is this possible? So far I'm enjoying the invisible stack but this would really take the cake. Thanks. :D
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.

Hoping to get your stack color in this coming release. :)
[Android Apps and Games] jjsoviet:
Thanks for the support. ^_^

I also have an idea: make the stack items as thumbnails! Yeah I know it might not be on your plan (and it would be tough, I bet), but it would be especially cool if you could develop something in the future.
[Android Apps and Games] optic76:
Thanks :) I will look into the idea.

New Update

Today's update includes the following:

* Added support to add or remove the stack name label

* Two new colors. Charcoal and Transparent Holographic

* Fixed reported bug when user interface is closing

* Few other interface changes

Thanks and let me know if you have any feedback!

Johnny
[Android Apps and Games] Gibeon:
Paid app is not availible on my Transformer too.
[Android Apps and Games] The_Tech_Ninja:
I have it installed. I love the changes. I was about 4 updates behind. However, when using the application it appears the apps on the widget stop working every once and a while. It is weird. Because I could use the widget for several minuets or so, then suddenly the widget no longer works.

I have moto XOOM on 1.1 ROM.
[Android Apps and Games] bowser84:
same for me, free version works great but i really want the paid version so i can set it up and have multiple widgets for different categories. great idea just a shame i can't purchase it from my transformer!

if i buy it and download it to my PC can i just transfer the .apk over and install from the transformer?

also i can't use the amazon store as it says it has geographical restrictions (im in australia)

dont know why the market says its incompatible with the transformer when it works fine with the free version :(