yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
to clarify the lag, there's two types on the dropdown. sometimes i'll pull it, and it won't show any animation at all but seconds later it will be fully down. it doesn't show it coming down. other times, as people have said, there's a lag where you think it didn't register so you try again, but it did register, and that second try usually messes something up because you end up clicking something.

i have a good amount of apps because well this is a smart phone lol. i don't have poorly coded apps, only well trusted ones. i put many on my sd card as well.

that bit of lag can get a little annoying, but i don't know if it has t to do with free memory. i had the same issue on other gingersense roms. it's Gingersense, not this specific one. everyone i've used seemed to have it...i haven't tried synergy or anything lately so i'm not sure if it's been ironed out or not.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
With the limited amount of free memory on the Inc , gingerbread roms will create some problems with the smoothness of operation .

Sent from my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
agreed, that's what kind of sucks.

however, i've been living with it for weeks without reverting back to Z roms or anything lol so i'm good, but if there's work to be done, i'd like to help be a part of testing or helping with logs or whatnot...a smooth inc on gingerbread would be a very big achievement for the community, and would show HTC that if we can do this stuff, why the hell can't they lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Yeah , I have been saying for ten years HTC should hire the devs from XDA .

Sent from my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Yo, guys, Nils has put up a brandy new all Sense 3.0 ROM for the Incredible.

See this thread.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
nils Do you think you will continue to keep a second version of this rom with out the 3d for those of us that dont like the 3d or will it be something you will phase out and have both of your roms 3d only?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I plan to keep both for now just may rebase them if it improves them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, i'm still getting the random unresponsive touch screen problem. i think it's happening when i unplug the phone from the charger. it doesn't happen every time though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
2.3 soon ???

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
By the weekend
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
A crowd will be waiting !
[Droid Incredible Android Development] serpentine009:
@NilsP, When I go to Menu > Settings > About Phone > Hardware Info it says that I have hardware version 0003. I thought that this version was the SLCD version of the Incs. I know for certain that I have an AMOLED. Is this programmed into the ROM or does the ROM read this information from the phone somewhere? Just curious.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Same Question As Always

For those of us who don't like reinstalling all the apps each time ... will 2.3 be a flashover for 2.2 (non-3D; as non-3D was the only one which was not a flashover).

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Should be able to flash over 2.2 with 2.3 .
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Ignore it, known issue. The ROM is reporting it wrong

More than likely.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, i just wanna say that with that "memory saving script" back a few pages, i'm actually idling with LESS memory than before now hahaha i don't think it does anything whatsoever.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I have actually seen improvements on all 3 ROM's but I am running them with the script built in which could make a difference
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
Judging from all of the problems that you seem to be experiencing, I would say that you may have a rogue app or something that is causing specific problems for you.

I've been using all of Nils' ROMs and have helped other Devs test out a few of theirs and while I have experienced minor problems, such as the notification dropdown lag, I've never experienced near the amount of problems you have. I have well over 200 apps currently installed and I'm pretty rough on my sweet Maria.

I would suggest doing a full wipe and system format when Nils releases his 2.3 and then reflash the memory fix and see if that doesn't clear up a few of your issues.

*If I have helped you, please don't forget to hit the 'thanks' button!*

Sent from my Inc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
good god, 200 apps? haha i don't have nearly that; i don't download apps that could do strange things like that, only trustworthy ones. i've had these problems even before the stuff restored. believe me man, like i've said before, i alllllllways do full wipes. i never install over the rom for nils stuff, i like getting a clean wipe in every time
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
He's just got a hard luck phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Had a few minutes so uploaded. Link in post 1

Version 2.3

Updated Maps

Updated Vending (Market)

More theming

Optimized some apk's

Added RAM fix from Jwue

Will flash over the equivalent 2.2 version (3d over 3d etc.).

NOTE: Any problems with flashover then do a full wipe.

There will be a 2.4 in a week or so
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
awesome nils! i'm leaving for the airport now to get my brother, but i'll give it a whirl when i get home..might do a clean wipe, and then clean wipe again for 2.4.

also guys, remember that i was one of the few people who after the Froyo OTA hit last august/september had HORRIBLE typing lag. i would type, and it would take seconds for the phone to catch up to me; it reminded me of the days of my damn Eris...a few of us had this problem, and it never happened before i got froyo....once i rooted, lou's redemptive revo was the first rom i put on, but i still had lag, and it was still sense 1....then i used warm Z, and switching to sense 2 with froyo got rid of my lag, and ever since, i've been lag free. so my phone was always kinda wonky, but i still love it (especially because it's amoled haha)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I have noted that the "lag" in the pull down menu happens most often the first time after boot/reboot/restart (or substantial screen off time) that the menu is accessed; once it's back in the cache it tends to respond alot faster.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bikedogrun:
Thanks for 2.3, Nils.

Can't say I see a huge difference (as I already had the updated Maps, Market & memory script on 2.2) but "subjectively" it definitely feels a bit snappier!

Absolutely no issues here...

/BD
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I hope it is faster since I did some tweaks in a lot of critical apk's
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Nils -

I'm finding 2.3 noticeably faster and smoother. Had actually considered full wipe and rebuild with 2.2 until you posted this; flashed it over 2.2, made three additions: (1) speed card fix to init.d; (2) change boot animation; and (3) UOT kitchen mod for digital battery icon in Notification Bar.

Runs beautifully. Will eventually take a peak at your 3.0 ROM when you get all of the kinks worked out, but this one is very nice, indeed. Thanks.

UPDATE: Also finding some of the bugs plaguing me in 2.2 which may or may not have been ROM-related, are ironed out, such as apps disappearing after disconnect from USB (requiring full restart); boot up process is decidedly faster and haven't encountered occasional Sense time-outs. Mind you all of this with a flash-over. (I did wipe Dalvik).

And just noticed that CPU use is WAY down. Nearly always ran near 100% before update; now I've seen it as low as under 10%. Nils, have you started tweaking the kernel?!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Runs pretty smooth and fast now.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I actually removed the auto zipalign that occurred on every boot which speeds up the boot process.

I also removed the SD Card speedfix because I think it was causing problems disconnecting the SD Card from USB. If you guys have a SD Card speedfix that does not cause problems point me to it.

Thanks for the feedback
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
MD5

Nils - the MD5 for the non-3D version is missing on the download site. Can you please post (or add to post 1). Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Done.... Wonder why it didn't generate
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Nils -

The SD Card Speedfix file I use came originally from this thread on xda-developers' forum.

My version ups the cache to 1024 (I have a 32gb card), which has historically worked best for me. I will leave it in my public Dropbox folder here.

As far as zipaligning, I still have the Spare Parts app you embed in the ROM set to zipalign on boot, per your recommendation earlier in this thread. Is that still recommended?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thebasuke:
I had that happen on cm7 stable
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks

The zipalign only buys you something if you add apps especially replacing system apps.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, by flashing the old NON rotating rosie file you have, it gives me an awesome looking rosie as shown here. by flashing this over your rom to get that colored rosie, is it breaking any of your tweaks? i'm not a fan of the dark rosie, but i'm loving this one. i always flash it.

if it does end up breaking something, could you make just a colored rosie mod that looks like this?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] boyer61:
Im try to add the white clock back in, and it's not changing over and the weather animations are pushed up past the view. anyone else experience this?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, running 2.3 now. seems nice and snappy, did a fresh install, i'm liking it. i'm still averaging like 73 to 77 free megs though, just like i was prior to the script added to put more free memory in.

my question...howcome in all z roms, landscape rosie was standard...but in all ginger roms, nobody makes it stock anymore...howcome?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
this is based on the desire s and it doesnt have landscape mode so nilsp had to make it landscape
[Droid Incredible Android Development] slygeist:
YeearG!! more char!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Which version of the ROM and which clock?

The one on 3d is more complicated than just the clock apk
[Droid Incredible Android Development] woznet:
Just wanted to say I am impressed with what you have done with this rom Nils. I love all the small touches you have added on top of the smooth running system, I usually run with 100 to 130 megs of memory free. I was wondering if you plan to upgrade the base for this rom to the Incredible 2 Gingerbread RUU. Wdfowty recently upgraded his ReMix rom to use that I believe he used to use a port from a different carrier. I just was wondering if you had any plans to move over to the Inc 2 base and expand from there? Either way, this is a very good rom so far and I think I will be quiet happy with it as my daily driver for the time being.

I usually uninstall all l the system apps that come with the phone that I do not use, such as Facebook, Flickr, FM Radio. I was wondering if there was a list of all the apps able to be removed without causing issues. (I.E I have a set of jpegs I use for my wallpaper, I do not need the live wallpaper and was hoping to remove it to save some space .) Feel free to tell me I am wasting my time with uninstall the system apps, I thought it would help some but I am not 100%.

I also would like to put in a request for a smooth scrolling 4x5 app drawer add-on/mod and a quick setting for the flashlight/LED on the back of the phone.

Very nice work on this rom Nils, I look forward to what you plan to do in the future with this. This rom can only get better and its off to an excellent start! Keep up the hard work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks for the feedback.

I actually have an Inc2 ROM running even as I type. However, I am not happy with it yet and still have a few quirks to work out. I simply don't release a ROM until I am at least happy with it and can live with anything that may be broken.

As far as what can be removed. It does not hurt to remove things as long as there are no other dependancies like the location stuff. The social apps are a good target for removal. All in all you will save room in the system and internal storage and possibly gain a little performance but it may not even be noticeable. I would target removing things that start every time at boot and you don't need since they take memory.

I had added a few things to the quick settings and will look at more.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
I sort of asked this in the 3.0 thread and am still awaiting a response. I will say, I remove Stocks, News, and Peep including their widgets and my rom flies as usual. If you haven't removed any of those before, your mileage may vary, but I remove those system apps with peace of mind.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RMarkwald:
I remove all of that, Twitter widget, Friend Stream widget, all the live wallpaper stuff - Picker, live wallpapers, things like that, and have had no ill effects.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scarfoot:
Is there a list of apps out there that I can use to pick what I want to remove?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
I never went that far in depth haha thank you! My question was, is there a difference in removing those from the rom file prior to flashing vs removing apk's & system apps while currently running the rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Sorry. I must have missed your question. Hope this series helps since the same applies to all ROMs
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Same results just easier to put back if you do it in the running ROM
[Droid Incredible Android Development] woznet:
I am happy to know there is a Inc 2 build in the works, I cant wait till you release it. No rush on the Inc 2 build, I can not find anything to complain about with the current build :). I heard removing friendstream, not just the widget, causes problems with syncing. Is thre any truth to this? I have used the app Autostarts to tweak what loads on booting.

Another more question Nils, what is your opinion on Autokiller Memory Optimizer. I am not sure if you are familiar with what it does, it adjusts the android systems memory management routines. In your opinion is this helpful or more of a gimmick? This isnt a task killer per say, it just adjusts when the android system should kill a task. I am trying to figure out what the best ways to optimize my phone, if there are any links to posts/websites that offer tips/guides to optimizing the android system I would appreciate it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Awesome, it's all good Nils. Thank you for the response as well. I'm glad it doesn't affect anything in the way of rom stability.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I heard that on friendstream also when you sync contacts from Facebook.

This ROM has a task manager built in and the script for RAM management I added from Jwue work good. I would not add another which could cause conflicts.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
damn joel, really? i don't get why some phones support it and some don't. like the thunderbolt, that's sense 2 but still doesn't support it. so confusing. and stupid. all htc phones should be running the same damn things by now lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] woznet:
Is anyone here using Juicedefender/Juicedefender Ultimate? Is it recommended or another gimmick?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
This rom runs just like it came on the phone from the factory.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Similarly, if you elect to use a third party mail client and delete the stock mail application, you lose Exchange activesync.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
I flashed up the 3d version yesterday.

Im getting mixed results so far. At times it is very laggy going between home screens, navigating in the market, opening and closing various apps. other times none of the above are a problem, everything responds fast as it should.

There is no pattern when it gets laggy sometimes I wake the phone and its great and other times i wake the phone and its super laggy.

I just took a picture, the phone locked up and it rebooted itself. that is a first for me.

I also noticed when I am updating an app in the market the progress bar shows "downloading" it never shows the progress or the size of the download. Is this normal? the phone has always showed me the progress and the total size of the downlaod

Any ideas what the issues could be?

This is by far my favorite rom and I have flashed 99.9% of the custom roms out there for the DINC. Love the work you did, hoping I can get the above items resolved.

Hitch
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, i've gotta nandroid back to 2.2..i've had 3g drops like twice today, and it will just stop working and i have to reset my phone every time. when it drops, i try to turn it off then on, and when i turn it off, it goes away, and gets grayed out, and i can't turn it back on.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Did you flash over 2.2?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nope, did a clean flash. i'd try to get pic messages today, and it'd just say "failed" and it wouldn't download, hence why i tried switching 3g on/off, and it wouldn't come back on.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
Hey Nils what flavor will your inc2 rom be...stock or mix 2.1/3.0 or 3.0
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Flash 2.3 , it is wotking great.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
haha, i'm on 2.3, that's where i'm getting the problem.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Which radio ?? I have had 3G all day .

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
My wife said she sent my daughter some pictures on the Inc an hour ago, so it works.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Probably a mix. I like the 3.0 stuff
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
i'm starting to think its GOSMS...but the fact that i could turn 3g off, but then it WOULDN'T come back on and would just gray out, isn't something that sits well! idk why it did that. i'm nandroiding 2.3 though because i really want to give newt's new optimized shift 2.4 a try to see how far he's come with that rom!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
yeah, i def feel a mix would be great; we're all so used to that pretty 3.0 lockscreen...haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
If you can integrate the 3.0 calendar app I will be a fan
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Let me know how it goes.

By the way, hot restart fixes most strange problems like 3g
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
anyone have any ideas about my lag from post #1696

Thanks

Hitch
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
All I can think of is you have something running in the background slowing everything down like sync or some obnoxious app
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
I had HTC weather running/sync'n I just disabled it to see if that helps any.

Thanks for the reply Nil's

Keep up the great work

Hitch
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
The ROM is running very well, thanks. The new ram management script that you put in, does that run at boot time or must I flash it after install? Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Nope. It runs all the time
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
Okay thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, i don't think it's the rom. i remembered i was experiencing lack of 3g around town today, my towers must've been having mantience or something. i'm not having any issues now..i decided against bothering to try another rom anyway lol so i'm still here, on 2.3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] boyer61:
I got it working Nils, I didnt have the right clock chosen..:o
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, there's still a problem with the camera causing a hard reboot after taking a shot while reviewing the pic. everytime i notice this its when i wipe and flash because i forget to turn pic review off. might be a problem with pic review?

also, the new market is just absolutely awful, so i tried to flash the black transparent one in your third post but it did nothing...new market still here :-\
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
I have the same problem with the camera,

I agree that market is rough

other then those two things, the rom is sweet
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Good to hear

Working on a new camera for all my ROM's so hang tight
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JeffBea:
I too tried to flash that mod on 2.2 with no luck. I would like the stock colored clock again. Any chance of fixing this? To me the clock that comes with this is hard to see.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
On you on normal or 3d ROM?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
oooooooooo, new camera, i'm excited :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spdracer2099:
No mms or sending email

I can not send or receive mms nor can I send an email. I receive text msgs fine and emails but not able to send them. Anyone have this issue?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Have you cleared data?

path for gmail:

menu/settings/applications/manage/all/gmail/clear data

works for me every time
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JeffBea:
3d ROM
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JeffBea:
3d ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
That clock will do nothing on the 3d rom. Totally different beast. I need to see what I can do about that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JeffBea:
Thanks, that would be great!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spdracer2099:
What about receiving picture msg's?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Im not sure about messages since i do not use text messages.

I just looked on my Dinc and under all applications there is a "messages" app click on that and clear data like you did for gmail.

Im thinking any of your saved text/pictures messages will be deleted when you hit clear data. It would be a good idea to back any messages you need to keep

Hitch
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spdracer2099:
Thank You I will give it a try. hope it works.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Not sure about the 11.19 radio thing....

Hey, Nils (Yo' Nils is how we say it in Philly....)

I decided to drop back to the 5.06 leaked radio for the Incredible, and found that it eliminated several hiccoughs I was getting with 2.2 and 2.3. Since radios can vary from handset to handset, I'm not convinced the 11.19 is really that critical for your ROM after all.

I'm watching your 3.0 thread, too, but not ready to take that plunge quite yet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I am actually on the 5.02 radio now and it seems pretty good for me. I think I may take that recommendation out of the op since as you say, YMMV.

I highly recommend the 3.0 ROM for people using the 3D version. The only thing not working that I am aware of is saving camera to EMMC
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
The 3.0 rom is awesome.