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[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Why?i thought we had the better gpu? In reading the galaxy 2 is in the 40s stock, and I got 25fps not overclocked... I guess I could try the test at 1.2 ghz but that wouldn't put me in the 40s...

So how come the sgs2 beats the g2x by a lot when were supposed to have a better gpu? Sensation gets what we get and it has way more pixels...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
lets get real, whatever is released today was obsolete last month.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Uhhhhhh what..lol I know what you mean but that dont pertain to this topic..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
http://mobilarena.hu/teszt/ketmagosok_egymas_ellen/bevezeto.html

Watch some of these videos I think you'll notice the tegra2 eats the sgs2 in games.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] JHaste:
there is no standard across the different chips... some gpu's can produce shapes or run executions that other chips cannot... try playing monopoly classic on your g2x... you cant because it requires a snapdragon chip to produce certain textures a certain way yet our phones are way more powerful than the mt4g which runs the game fine...

this is also why companies like gameloft have to produce different versions of their games for different phones... its next to impossible to accurately benchmark phones yet...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
what videos? am i missing something? thats a page with words and not in english?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
Yeah sorry it linked to the site. Check utube. Today for the date. The vids are there.

Search HTC sensation dated today.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
And its in your YouTube on your phone.

I could not find it in the browser version.

Its by mobilarena.

OK watched again. It shows the gs2 wins in numbers. But not real performance.

The 2x eats the sensations lunch.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
ahh, gotcha, I found it. Its running smartbench.. Yea, the g2x performs it a lot better.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
And the browser test. G2x and gs2 are equal.

Not the sensation.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
Just saying that every device out there is better than ours in some way and in some ways ours ia better. No one will ever make a device that trumps everyone. If so it would be a small market and cost 600 at least on contract.

G2x with faux AOSP
[T-Mobile LG G2x] robavila721:
28.5 is the highest I get oc'ed to 1.5

Sent from my LG-P999
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bonzai3558:
Sucks

Sent from G2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] greengoldmello:
this kinda confirms the thought that i have that HTC Sense bogs the sensation down..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] nraudigy2:
galaxy s2 eats both of these in 1080p flash video through browser.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
Not in what I seen. Milliseconds faster isn't eating anything.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Hes right.theres a video where they both play 1080p in the browser and g2x skips and the sgs2 plays beautifully..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] zenstrom:
That's because the SGS2 supports the NEON instruction set, which accelerates video decoding. The latest Flash Player takes advantage of this and uses the phone's GPU to accelerate decoding Flash video. The Tegra 2 doesn't support NEON, so it has to be done using the phone's CPU, which is why it's choppy.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
Come on smash your killing me. Damn it. Well thanks for the info.

Do you mean over data? Because I have no stutter over wifi. Heck even over the network no stuttering. I guess I need to watch more gs2 vids to compare.

But thanks for the knowledge and my bad to who I corrected. You were right.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] nraudigy2:
G2X can't even play 720p flash video. They need new flash player version.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] iamlilysdad:
Flash just needs to be optimized for the Tegra 2. I'm not gonna hold my breath.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
I play them from YouTube. I also have a 1080p version of avatar extended installed.

I just converted it 1080p and it works.

Records 1080 from the camera and plays it back fine.

Is that not the right type of 1080p?

Or is it converting it to 720 to play?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
I see now. But I just tested a video on YouTube that was 1080p.

But it didn't look as good as another 720 p video.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] nraudigy2:
No run youtube from browser not Youtube app. G2X will struggle with 720p.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] XPLANE9:
Plus the Galaxy S2 has a hardware accelerated browser, so the additional use of the GPU could help speed things up as well...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
I did. The 720p was clean. The 1080 p stuttered. Or was kinda choppy. Maybe not choppy.

More pixilated would be a better explination.

And I don't think the app has true HD. So I did go into YouTube in the browser. Then went to desktop version
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
Its clear the gs2 is a worthy upgrade or a better competitor than the sensation.

The g2x and sensation are practically equal.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Vaddy23:
I can stream 720p and 1080p content through youtubes website running cm7 build 34 and fauxs latest oc/UV kernel but only when maxfreq is set to 1.5 ghz
[T-Mobile LG G2x] xenoletum:
"Oh no this new phone that's coming out using more updated specs is better than the phone that came out a while ago using older specs this is an outrage what will I do"
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Heres that video orange.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4vijEfQaQ

Edit: wrong video.. Still looking..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
My phone clearly streams 1080p just fine over wifi. Big bunny or whatever played just fine.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KingKuba13:
Every benchmark is different.

Can`t win them all, look at smartbench gaming........
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jcbofkc:
On Smart Bench 2011 I get an average of 2950 in productivity and 2570 in games using the stock rom with no overclocking.

How does that compare with every one's results?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] avetny:
my friend Samsung Glalaxy S II got OFFICIAL gingerbread 2.3 !

GingerBread 2.3 is better video drivers

better file system

and better performance for everything.

WE DON'T HAVE 2.3 !!! WE got FAKE 2.3 (fake drivers).

Cyanogen mod fixing problems by PATCHING !but is just fix (just patch) !

So just wait until 2.3 gonna come for us (this month)

If it's gonna be same sh*t, and is gonna be same performance like on 2.2 than tegra is FAIL !!!!

And I will never gonna respect this chip/ phone !
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bdkinney:
Streaming over wifi doesn't generally use flash...internet video streaming is usually accomplished with flash though. I don't see it as an issue since I never stream over 720p anyway...if you do stream internet video at 1080p it might be an issue for you.

The g2x isn't going to be the top performer in every category...but who cares. The question you have to ask is whether it meets your needs. For me that answer is an easy yes.

This thread just goes to illustrate how arbitrary benches can be (we're fastest on bench x; we come in third on bench y, bench z made my phone smell like bacon...mmmm...bacon) So, what... The phone is fast and will run any APP out there, butter smooth. If the SGS2 wins a bench or two does it really matter? Really?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] unique77:
Uuhh. IPhone 5? Cmon guys. Kidding...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
I agree. Gingerbread is better optimized for stuff like that. Before comparing apples to apples, we need official gingerbread first with updates gingerbread drivers.

I think apples to apples the tegra is more powerful but most benchmark programs may not support the tegra completely. Who knows.

As far as flash in the browser, adobe just needs to update their software to support the Tegra.

Remember you can have the fastest chip on the block but its nothing without supported drivers and software.

Lets give the new chip to start gaining support before casting stones. Once apps are optimized to read tegra performance then we can compare speeds.

G2x CM7.1 style - Android 2.3.4
[T-Mobile LG G2x] VSTmoTP2:
I agree. I think we need to wait until we have an official 2.3 offering with proper drivers before we could really see which phone's hardware is actually superior.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tweezit:
All I am going to say is retest this once we get fully working 2.3 drivers and source code...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] eagle1967:
????

i didnt think their was a question about the samsung chip being a better faster processor. its weather compatibility will be there with only 1 device using that chip. just as the sensation dual core is obviously lesser of a chipset.

the fact is all the dual cores will perform closely in most everyday things. I think unless the tegra 2 becomes a chip that is jsut not stable all around as has already been shown with the verizon 4g radios hopfully its just that.

But if we get a baseband that can keep 4g connected and drivers that dont cause reboots(although i have had only 1 on this thid phone in 2 1/2 weeeks)

than i think the g2x will be just fine with the current crop of dual core phones.

also froyo 2.2.2 benchmarks slower than 2.2.1 did not sure why but i lost 200 pooints on quadrant when updating my rom from 2.2.1 to 2.2.2 with no other changes other than whatever changed in source code. so benchmark wise we do need to wait for a new version of android. I read somewhere that the rumor is that the gb update will be 2.3.4 hopefully thats true .

Just remember that motoblur is great and its the apps in the market that are killing the motrola with motoblur phones i know this because motrola said so.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Just face the facts. The SGSII is more powerful than any phone in existence. Every review you read on it says its the best Android device ever made. I don't see anyone saying that about the G2X or the Sensation. If T mobile doesn't get the version with the Exynos processor and Verizon gets one with LTE, I know where I'm going since I live in a LTE enabled city.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] fcisco13:
Well quit crying and go!!

G2X
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
I'll wait. The g2x should hold me over till kal el generation.

We're talking less than a year at this point.

By that time you'll also have your answer to the merger.

The g2x has the better hardware over the sensation.

Just the screen is less.

The sgs2 is a very good phone.

But like all Top phones it will be short lived.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
This ^^^^^
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
So the g2x out benchmarks the sensation on froyo.

It plays games better than any phone.

Has vanilla android.

Is faster than the sensation when using everyday.

Has 10 point recognition like the galxys2 vs 4 point on the sensation.

And of course A9 chip in the g2x.

A8 in the sensation.

The only thing that says the sensation is better?

Reviewers who report and look for the next best thing. And the handset to justify the title IPhone killer.

The G2x is better than the sensation.

Unless the 4.3qhd means that much to you.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] mightymike889:
does any1 have cool icons for my launcher pro dock...
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] squall leonhart:
I just have some icons that I collected from launcher pro. Have fun
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lrthumwood:
Installed the new 3.1 this morning and it seems that the dock problem (not holding charge once the transformer screen is off) is still not fixed, I have the box ticked in the setting menu which indicates the keyboard should sleep once the screen is off. I attached the dock this morning after a full 8 hour charge, 10 hours later, I switched back on and immediately had the flashing red light.

Is it just my system or has Asus still not fixed this issue?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kovalaci:
Hi Friends!

If I want to charge my Defy with an original Motorola charger and data cable it doesn't charge. I tried to charge with a HTC charger and cable but it's the same

problem.

But if I connect the phone with an USB cable to my pc, it charges.

Any solution please!
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deshgloshe:
more info please

more info please.

What ROM? original? version of android, etc...

If you are using a non-supported ROM maybe changing it to a official version could be a good idea.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rubjonny:
it may sound stupid, but try rebooting the phone! mine did the same last week and i was just about to tear out my hair, then i rebooted the phone and all was well again. odd! i think i may have killed a process i wasnt supposed to :D
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kovalaci:
Defy charging problem

I use an official ROM 2.51.1. MB525.Retail.en.CEE

Reboot didn't help

I will try a factory reset
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rubjonny:
damn. actually this thread has reminded me of something, i found another usb charger adaptor the other day and it didnt work, so i assumed it was broken. im using my kindle usb charger adaptor + cable and its fine! maybe not all charger adaptors are the same?

by usb charge adaptor I mean you have a wall plug with a usb port on it, then you plug in your usb cable to that and phone? i assume thats what you mean as well
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kovalaci:
Yes I have a Motorola wall usb adaptor and a Motorola data cable to the phone. I got them with the phone. And I have got a HTC wall usb adaptor. Booth adaptors work fine

with my HTC phone (charge them).
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salingpusa:
Try charging phone when turned off. If not working remove batt for a few secs then put it back and charge . I do this with my wifes htc
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kovalaci:
Hi salingpusa!

Thank you for hints.

Charging by power off doesn't work.

After battery removing and putting it back phone charges, but only at the first time. When I try to charge next time power on mode, it doesn't charge.

An observation: if the battery is almost empty, phone can charge from wall adapter.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salingpusa:
Hmmm... Try doing a nan droid backup. Then wipe data, dalvik, and batt. If it works, good. then try to restore the back up. If the problem resurface, do wipe data, dalvik and batt but don't restore.If the problem is gone, ur good. Hope it works
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kovalaci:
Thank You for your help. Updating to official Froyo CEE solved the problem
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HugoHirni:
Actually there is a difference between USB-Chargers !

Hi,

i have an old Generic USB Car-adaptor which I used with the USB-Data Cable of my old LG KU990. Works fine...

Now I plugged my Defy with it´s Data Cable to that Generic-Adapter and the Defy didn`t recognise it.

So... I googeled^^

Before the EU had agreed on micro-USB as the future common connector for mobile devices there had been Generic USB-Power-Adapters which only connect +5V and Ground. This Generic ones only work on "old devices" and lame Devices like USB-lamps :-D

So whats the difference on the new Common External Power Supply?

They use also the D+ and D- Pins (~ 2V) ;-)

Look on the Schematics on MintyBoost (just "google" it).

So how to make an old Generic one work with new devices?

Just add some resistors (voltage divider) to put 3V on D+ and D- like in the Schematic at Mintyboost ;-)

The Voltages on D+ and D- are for the "power negotiation". It determines how many current the Device can get out of the Charger. The IPhone for instance has different modes

# D+ = 2V / D- = 2,8V => 1A (Quick charge on wall plug)

# D+ = 2V / D- = 2V => 0,5A (Slow charge on PC USB plug)

Some Devices such as Motorola Backflip needs to shorten D+ and D- (USB Charging Specification).
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lord0815:
Is it really the work worth? :)

New one costs about 5 Euros...

But its a good hint ;)

Thanks!
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LeoShi:
Not charge or change slowly?

If charge slowly with HTC charger,

Maybe something is wrong with your wall-charger.

I guess the reason why you can not use HTC charger as below:

As we all know,USB cable has 4 lines,VBUS,D-,D+,GND.

Charger need VBUS and GND.Votage of VBUS is 5V.

Some cell phone only needs VBUS and GND.D+,D- can just leave it floating.

But Defy use D+ and D- to distinguish Wall-charger and USB-charger.

If short D+ and D- in charger(make the votage of D+ is the same as D-)，Defy will know it's a wall-charger,so the current will rise up to 800mA.

If the votage of D+ and D- is not the same,Defy will know it's a USB-charger,so the current will down to 300~500mA.You will find it's so slow to change Defy full.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LeoShi:
Hi HugoHirni,

I use a multimeter test Defy wall-charger,D+ and D- is short.

So, I think D+=D- => Quick charge on wall plug.

My conclusion is different from yours:)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maymayank:
charging issues ..

i am using CM7 2.3.5 on my defy MB525..

its giving charging issues like

if i was using the phone for some download or web surfing or using some app. and the next secind if i plug in d charger then it wont take charging .. then i hav to leave it ideal for a minute or so

i even used another motorola charger and usb lead to resolve it , but it ain't working !! presently am using motorola charger and nokia usb for charging .. (the charger does get heated up pretty soon)

should i install d STOCK ROM and send the phone to service centre or any solutions !! kindly help ..
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ela1103:
moto defy does not support defy plus batttery

moto defy does not support defy plus batttery.it shows 80% only
[Eee Pad Transformer General] swan3609:
I am in the process of acquiring a TF and hopefully the dock as well. I am planning on a month long road trip in 3 weeks, in which I would like to be able to only bring my TF and not have to tote my i7 laptop around.

My question is, I shoot tons of Photos and Full HD video on my Canon 60D and I want to be able to dump the Stuff from my cameras SD card to a Portable HDD that I will have with me. The TF should be able to power my HDD and moving files shouldnt be a big deal right? I am not worried about the transfer speed, Just I need to be able to empty my memory cards onto my HDD.. This is all assuming that my Dock comes in time for my trip..

I figured this was the place to ask, and I assure that I will be back here once I get my TF to learn how to do some more stuff with it as well..

Thanks guys...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dbpaddler:
I haven't tried using a HD, but I would imagine both usb ports would provide enough powerd for the HD if the one isn't enough. Most HD's do come with the dual USB cable, at least mine did.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] swan3609:
But moving a few hundred Photos or videos shouldnt be a big deal?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] magicpork:
my western digital passport works very well with the usb port on the kb dock..

I once tried copy 6g ish music files from the wd passport to the micro sd.. not lightning fast but it does the job
[Eee Pad Transformer General] klau1:
it works very well even with just one USB connected so you can save the other one. Even hi performance custom built one works.

Particularly a USB 3 2.5" enclosure with a western digital black 2.5"

Make sure you format it to ntfs before using it in a transformer so you can use > 4 gb files
[Eee Pad Transformer General] swan3609:
Awesome.. I am not worried about speed.. being able to just take my TF with a 16 hour battery life over my hour and a half i7 laptop will make it worth and slow transfer speed.. I just wont expect to run Premiere or Photoshop on my Tf to edit any of that stuff until I get back home.. I think that would be a bit much on the TF..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] frosty5689:
I don't think stock ASUS firmware have NTFS drivers, only custom ROMs do at the moment.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] klau1:
Common misconception.

The stock transformer rom does indeed support ntfs on hard drives
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nxp3:
I have an Eye-Fi card that works well. You can have images from the camera sent to android devices now, and it doesn't even require internet.

I have my transformer sends it's picures to my computer as well...but that requires you are in range of your computer or have internet where you are taking pictures. As a bonus it also geotags your photos if you are in access point range.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] findmike:
It probably goes without saying, but you'd be far better off picking up a few extra memory cards as well. I use portable hard drives all the time in my photography business and the last thing in the world I would ever think about doing would be to have my only copy of anything stored on one - especially while being subjected to the rigors of travel. I've had several portable HD's error out, loose date or fail completely.

If I was planning a trip I'd probably want the TF, backup hard drive and as many memory cards as I could imagine using to avoid shooting over anything until I got home. If you are going to be shooting 16 gig a day for several weeks though you would probably be better off just getting a second hard drive and copying the data to each of them. I know, it's paranoid, but loosing even one image sucks if it's the one you were looking for.

Also, just a side note, but if you are a RAW shooter, Android won't have any way to actually view the files so you might be a little disappointed with the results unless you shoot in RAW + JPG mode. You can disregard the JPGs when you get back home but they will make life easier while on the road. If you already shoot JPG you're all set.

Happy Clicking!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] el_brio:
I have moved some larger files onto/off of my TF and it is painfully slow (Class 10 card). You are much better off getting a couple of large SD cards or a dedicated storage device. If you shoot in RAW you aren't going to be able to review your work on the device anyway. Or you could shoot in RAW +JPEG and move the JPEGs over to the TF as a backup.

Also (I hate to say this because I know I will probably get my ass flamed for it) but I wouldn't trust Honeycomb to move the files, keep them safe and then move them again without something screwing up. It would probably be fine, but if it was a once-in-a-lifetime vacation or a wedding/work shoot no way in hell I would trust it. It may be misguided, but at this point the device hasn't earned my confidence.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Popsiclestand:
As someone who has tried to use my TF for this exact purpose, here is my experience.

The TF (with dock) would read my NTFS HDD no problem. I usually use a portable card reader to read my CF cards and could not get that to show up on my TF. The only other option was to hook up the camera directly to the TF which also did not work.

If your camera records onto SDHC then you should be okay. But if your camera records on CF card as mine does, I would test it out with a card reader before trying to use in the field. Maybe it's the type of USB card reader I use that's the problem...I'm not sure.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] andyzarins:
Have you tried the card reader since the 3.1 update? Wider range of USB devices now should work so fingers crossed. I use a micro SD card in a SD card adapter so you can simply remove the micro SD card and mount it into the transformer. Does not help though if your camera does not use SD cards....

A good program I use is picfolio whic syncs with my picasa account and compresses 20 gb or so worth of pictures to about 500 MB. Means I have portable access to all my pictures and the quality after compression is very good. Also it has an upload ability so if you have a wifi connection you could upload directly to your picasa account.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] hotelmode:
Just a heads up, I took the memory card out of my DSLR (microSD in an adapter, took the microSD out and put it in the TF) and it said "preparing SD card..." for a split second then nothing happened. I took the card out and put it back in my camera, and the camera made me format the card. Laptop wouldn't recognize it after that, either. I lost all of the pictures that I had on the card.

Now whenever I put that same card in the transformer, it says "preparing SD... whatever" for a split second but then it stops, and the SD card isn't accessable from the file manager, and the icon doesn't appear in the notification bar, but it hasn't destroyed the formatting again since that first time.