yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
I think you only need TWO versions, the latest 4.7.1404 version and the latest 4.8.2345 version. Anything else is beta and people report that Zune is nagging them anyway to upgrade.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Heathcliff74:
This is what has worked for me:

Download this archive. It is from xboxmod's WP7 Update Cab Sender thread.

- Zune 4.8 final

- Backup app 1.6

- Setup-UpdateWP 4.8 beta 3 from the archive

- Extract the "Tools" folder from the archive

The UpdateWp.exe from the archive is also 4.8 beta 3, but with patched version number. So it thinks it is 4.8 final.

In the backup app refer to Zune 4.8 final and refer to the UpdateWP.exe in the extracted "Tools" folder.

Has worked fine for me. I know it does not do a full backup (no media, which is already synced with Zune), but I don't mind. Makes the backups smaller and I have the media on my desktop anyway.

Thanks to hx4700 Killer for the app!!

Ciao,

Heathcliff74
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
Perhaps the way to handle this is to go back to me just checking to make sure the updatewp matches the zune version and anything other than 4.7 prompts with a message saying that its *not* a comlpete backup. That way I just report version mismatch instead of trying to fix it for you.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Heathcliff74:
Yup, sounds like a good plan. To be honest, I think people will leave Zune 4.7 very soon. Microsoft tries to update Zune automatically. And I think that most people don't really mind that their media is not in the backup. I think the backup feature was meant for OS / Apps / Data to begin with.

Keep it up!

Heathcliff74
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] DavidinCT:
Not just try to update, it's a pain in the A$$. If your just listening to music with it, it will prompt you for a update, if you just open it and looking through the marketplace, it will do the same. I tried to avoid upgrading for a while to keep backups working and trust me, it was a pain in a$$, I finally gave in.

Know what I would love, to find a way to make this app run independently from Zune, even if we had to take the whole Zune 4.7 folder and dump it in the same folder as your app, I would be fine with that.

Then we could run 4.7, 4.8, 4.9 or what ever and have our backups/restores work fine. WIth out that worry.

The ulitmate goal with this would be, open your app and backup my device, no matter what verson of zune is out there or even if you had it installed. A good reliable backup app.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
Unfortunately updatewp wants to be in the current zune folder and checks zunes reg entries to make sure its the right version so having them co-exist side by side still has problems :(
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
as I mentioned before, switcheroo is too messy. Keep it clean and simple and stick with latest. Follow Heathcliff74's advise...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] DavidinCT:
What your saying did not work for me. I tried your process (and I believe others did too)

- 4.7 with the matching version of zune and the tools

- Dumpped Zune4.7 folder in the Program files with the 4.7 files

- set your app to see Zune in Zune4.7 folder

- Checked the registry to make sure the correct version of Zune was set

It still did not work....

If it was as simple as having 2 reg files to run before and after to do this, sure I would do it but, if I have all the software correct, it does not work anyway.

And there is no way to by pass zune all together to get a backup and restore of the phone ? (I really dont know, that is why I am asking).

Just so I can clear this up to bacup with 1.4 or 1.6, the trick is to have the matching Zune and UpdateWP versions and backup/restore should work ? Example, I have 4.8.2345 zune and 4.8.2345 (thanks for the post), it should work ?

I really didn't want to upgrade but, Zune can be very annoying, so I got fed up..
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
that's how it worked for me and apparently for Heathcliff. You get a complete backup but you have to backup your media separately.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] DavidinCT:
As long as it's a complete backup, I'm fine with it. So what if I have to resyc my music/videos. No biggie there.

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] rbrsddn:
Are the 4.8 2345WP Tools needed? If so, can someone provide a link? I've searched xda, and Googled it, and can find nothing... TIA!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
what you need is here. Place the OS appropriate UpdateWP.exe into your Zune folder. Then use v1.4 or 1.6 of the update tool. If it works please thank the original poster and hx4700 Killer of course.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] rbrsddn:
I will, Thanks.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] fahdriyami:
Sorry if i missed this but how long does this tool stay at the 100% Creating Backup stage? Its been there for about 30min now, no error and my phone is still displaying the 'do not unplug' screen...

Am i missing something or is the tool finished doing its stuff?

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
It sounds like you are using v1.8 of the tool? This happened to two of us (see some of the above posts) and what that means is that your backup has most likely failed. Your only option is to unplug the phone and reboot it and quit the backup tool. DavidinCT used this to restore his device and bricked it.

A correct backup will give you a confirmation message at the end and tell you to unplug the phone. When you unplug the phone it will reboot itself. If you do not see that your backup is hosed.

I suggest you try v1.4 or v1.6 of the backup tool for now.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] fahdriyami:
Okay, thanks ;)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] d1k_is:
App looks great, thanks for your work.

I seem to get an error trying to run it with the latest Zune.

"The installed version of the tool (4.7.1404) needs to be updated to match the Zune version (4.8.2345). Please install the tool version 4.8.2345."

Any idea how to fix this? or where I can get the correct version of the tool?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
UpdateWP.exe in the Zune folder must match 4.8.2345. Both 32/64 bit versions here.

You should try to uninstall the current version of the Windows 7 Phone Support Tools first (it may also be called windows phone flash utility).

the latest ZuneWMDU.dll to use must also match Zune client 4.8.2345. You should already have these with Zune 4.8 installed.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] d1k_is:
ok, now I get a different error:

"This program require window phone tools 4.7 for it to work. Please uninstall(!!) the current version and re-run to let me install it for you or you can D/L and install it yourself. This program will close when you click ok."
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
use version 1.4 or version 1.6 of the tool. I had similar problems with v1.8.

Note v1.4/1.6 will not update you media. you have to sync it with Zune client to back it up. Version 1.4 works here without a problem.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] d1k_is:
ok, now the ZuneWmdu.DLL version is not right. The version you linked to in your previous post was 4.7.1404.0 where is needs 4.8.2345.0. Sorry but where can I get that version?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
yep, sorry, the ones I listed are indeed for 4.7 (post corrected). with Zune 4.8 installed you should already have ZuneWMDU.dll 4.8. But I also wrote that you probably have the correct one already, did you check it before you replaced it? Did you make a backup of the one that was in there? Everything has to be 4.8.2345. If you find 4.7 because somebody else gave you the wrong link you should not use it.

Here are ZuneWMDU.dll 4.8.2345 for both 32 and 64bit.

Please just install Zune 4.8 and use the UpdateWP.exe 4.8.2345 from the post above and v1.4 or v1.6 should work.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] d1k_is:
I was able to get the correct version from a different PC that I had zune on but now I'm getting a System IO exception. (I'll post the details when I get home)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ca2l3vin:
System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'Interop.WM7UpdateLib, Version=4.8.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.File name: 'Interop.WM7UpdateLib, Version=4.8.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'

at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.DeviceUpdate.DeviceManager.Initialize()

at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.DeviceUpdate.DeviceManager.get_Instance()

at wm7update.Program.Main(String[] args)

WRN: Assembly binding logging is turned OFF.

To enable assembly bind failure logging, set the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog] (DWORD) to 1.

Note: There is some performance penalty associated with assembly bind failure logging.

To turn this feature off, remove the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog].

I get this error when running 1.6 ....1.4 states I need to update my phone tools to 4.8 (it is.) and 1.8 says I need to downgrade phone tools 4.7 (which im having a hard time finding and the auto install isnt working for me)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
I am going to try to update this today with two versions. One that does the file switching and one that does not. It will use whatever version of zune you have installed. Or perhaps the same version with this as an option.

I have found a few bugs in the code that stem from the fact that I have backed up and restored my phone about 50 times and am getting rather tired of all the testing so the last version was tested initially quite a bit but not the second and third generations.

If anyone wants to beta test it let me know, just make sure you have a rom you can reflash to if necessary before volunteering.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Core2pt:
I have Zune 4.8.2 and i maneged to backup and restore my HALFBRICKED HD7 :)

that is maybe a good thing, since the phone continue to send and recieve rom´s.

maybe some one more expert than me , could fix the bootloader in the backup image..

ill try to give it a closer look later..

the backup process and restore run very well at first try , abot 15mints to backup and about 20 to restore.

Thanks for this great tool. ;)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] evolvtyon:
Hello Core2pt,

I've tried out the tool with my HD7, but was not as successful as you. Could you please describe your windows environment (like OS, SP, Updates, Arquitecture) ?

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Core2pt:
hi Evolvtyon

ill try to be as explicit as possible

I have:

Windows 7 64-bit SP1

Zune 4.8.2

Windows Phone Support Tool

Dev. Tools

The steps I made were:

download and unzip

"ZuneWmdu.DLL" and "Windows 7 Zune Phone Backup" to the desktop

I started "Windows 7 Zune Phone Backup" and it asked the path to "ZuneWmdu.DLL"

which i selected to the DLL, and "Windows 7 Zune Phone Backup" started.

it created a backup file in the environment with 300kb and the backup folder in normal Zune

(C: \ Users \ "user" \ AppData \ Local \ Microsoft \ Windows Phone Update \)

hope that helps :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
So just out of curiousity... did the backup say it completed successfully? or did you just see the 100% message? I ask because I have discovered a condition under which the backup does complete but that message won't be displayed.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Core2pt:
The backup bar on the phone and on the pc go till the end but after a sec or two the message was some error about the Update..

and i had check the backup folder and was with 5,6gb what is +- what i have on the phone.

In the Zune the backup run 100% normal with the bar´s going to 100% and a sucess message at the end of restart.

what my (half)bricked phone didnt do before was showing the bar on the phone when conecting to restore ou backup and now it did with your program without conection errors.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
Version 1.9 of the tool is o the first post now. It has two modes. One where you can use the zunewmdu.dll from 4.7 for a complete backup and one that users whatever you have installed. It will still compare the zune and updatewp versions but will only warn you if it sees a mismatch, not quit.

I have tested it in both 4.8 mode through a backup and restore and the 4.7 file switching mode and it worked fine.

One thing I note on my work computer is that the phone doesnt reboot when I pull the plug, but it does at home so I included text on how to deal with that in the "Success" dialog. I also added a note stating that a message when the phone does reboot stating that the update failed is normal (because it is just using the update as a means to get the backup to happen)

As always post issues.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
thank you for the nice update. will check it out. As you probably already heard, people that were on 7720.68RTM do not have to roll back to NoDo. The cleanup tool for beta users was already in the package we used to go from beta to RTM.

cheers
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
I just did the update on my focus from the leaked RTM and then my wifes focus which was at 7712.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] lokto69:
I have this error on 2 pc : Input string was not in a correct format.

Ver 1.9, last zune software,Windows Phone Support Tools installed.

How can i correct this ?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
Jafox,

I run windows 7 and on my computer the files can be found at:

%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

Cut & paste that in the run dialog and hit enter.

There is a folder there with a ID number for your device. Enter that folder and then enter the folder called "RestorePoint".

In there is another ID number type folder. Enter that folder and then enter the Data folder. There is not a one single file but rather a bunch that are around 4MB each.

If you want to back it up just copy off the whole thing starting at the folder found in:

%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] jafox:
Superb.....thanks for that and for the backup....
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] SuperSport:
That's not cool. But, I'm still willing to look into it if anyone is interested. If it's just a Serial Number or something, maybe I can Hex Edit replace it.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] StevieBallz:
Does the HD2 even have the Download- and Update-Modes that are necessary to install Updates through Zune? It might be possible that this functionality is part of the Bootloader (which is different on the HD2 as it is an alternative Bootloader built by DFT).

I can report it working on an Omnia 7 using Windows 7 x64.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
hd2leo_fusion,

My program derives the path to zune by going to the registry here and looking it up:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Zune

There is a value labeled: "Installation Directory"

That should be the path to the ZUNE folder where zune is installed.

The odd thing is that when I get that from the registry I first check for the existance of zune.exe in that folder to verify zune if installed and then check for the existance of updatewp.exe in that folder. That is all the checking that is done. If you want you can trigger the backup manually like this:

Open cmd.exe by bringing up the RUN dialong and typing CMD and hit enter.

Change directory to your zune folder by doing the following: cd c:\program files\zune and hit enter

The prompt should change to show the path to the zune folder.

Now that you are in the zune folder in the command prompt type:

updatewp.exe "FullPathtoupdatefile.PKS" /enablebackup

Of course replace FullPathtoupdatefile.PKS with the actual path to the PKS file. BE SURE TO KEEP THE QUOTES!

When it is done running the backup it will say it is starting to install the patch. Just unplug the phone at this point and then kill the command shell.

You may have to plug the phone back in and let it get recognized by the computer and unplug it again to get it to boot back up.

At this point you should have your backup.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] venelar:
Does this require any kind of unlocking? My venue pro came with the latest software on it, so I have no way to make a backup (since zune backs up before updating it). This would be great to give me some piece of mind by having a backup laying around.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
This app is just triggering the natural update process that ZUNE uses by giving it a false update to perform so no you shouldnt need any unlock on the phone.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] kpetrianakis:
Hi, thank you for all your efforts

I got this error:

Disaster recovery plugin error: Couldn't create a backup because your phone's registry settings are incorrect.

I have an HD2 that uses MAGLDR 1.12 if that means anything..

Can I use the backup that is created in this process to restore it after I flash my phone with the NoDo / Mango (later) update?

Will my SMSes remain there?

Thank you

Kostas
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
This is a complete backup of the phone OS and all. So if you backup, update to NODO then restore the backup you made Pre NODO your phone OS and all will be as it was pre-nodo.

I keep getting this question A LOT and the answer is this is a COMPLETE backup and can only perform a COMPLETE restore. You can't piece together what you want out of it. This is a ZUNE limitation.

As far as the problem with HD2 this is the second report of it not working on an HD2. Ironically it is because of the HD2 PKS file that this even works. It has been speculated that this may be because HD2 uses a completely different bootloader than other WP7 devices. Im sorry I can't give you a better answer I don't have one to see whats going on.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] matthewharmon102:
clarification

so just to clarify, this does the same backup as Zune? so if, for example, i wanted to backup my SMS inbox and update to a new rom, i could not do this using this program, as it restores the entire phone, including the old ROM/OS? just want to make sure i have it right.

I have a HD2, if that makes a difference
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
matthewharmon102,

You are correct. It is the same backup zune performs prior to an OS update.

I have also have 2 reports of it not working on an HD2.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] SuperSport:
Did you notice you were getting published? Expect a LOT of traffic... ;)

http://www.pocketpc.ch/c/1013-neues-windows-phone-7-backup-tool-veroeffentlicht.html

http://www.wpcentral.com/wp7-backup...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wmexperts+(wpcentral)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] SuperSport:
I've also got an HD2 that is WP7 and Activated. I'm going to try it now. I'll post results.

And, a heads up, watch for a surge in traffic & questions:

http://www.pocketpc.ch/c/1013-neues-windows-phone-7-backup-tool-veroeffentlicht.html

http://www.wpcentral.com/wp7-backup...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wmexperts+(wpcentral)

UPDATE: Third confirmation that it does not work with an HD2. See Error image in attachment.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
StevieBallz asked me if it was cool.

There goes the neighborhood! ;)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] big:
That's very cool for my mozart

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] :
does zune save the update in a special file or directory? Is there a way that we can have archived copies on one computer? And just out of curisoity is there a way to share the backups between multiple phones (of course the same brands)?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
Location answer: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14285814&postcount=18

As far as archiving it goes, backups from the same phone should be fine to do that with. In fact I mention in the first post that if there was enough interest in it I might add it to this project. I'm already thinking of adding a restore function but for me its an hour long process with 12GB on the phone :(

As far as using between different phones I only have the one device so I am not sure but I have read of other sharing backups (don't know if they used the same device) and the restore failed.

I can tell you that I backed up, formatted my device plugged it in and let zune configure it and then chose the restore option under updates and it was back to the way it was before the format.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] loomx:
I have a question about the restore.

What does it restore on the phone?

The reason I ask, it because I have ported all my live settings purchases and so on from my @gmai.coml account to a new @live.co.uk

And because you cannot change the first windows live setup on the phone with out reseting, I am going to have to reset.

If I reset then setup the windows live to be my @live.co.uk then do the restore, will it restore the original account or will it leave my new one on?

(P.S. I have an dev unlocked phone, so have been looking in the registry for where it stores the live account details, but cannot find it.)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Nowaynoway:
Maaaaaaan,

thank you very much for this tool.

i tried it with Samsung Omnia 7 and HD7 and it work perfectly. i even reset my phone and restore it and it just work.

thanks again for this create tooool.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] drkfngthdragnlrd:
I just thought about something. You said your tool kills the update exe before the patch gets applied. Well my thought is, this tool could possibly be a way to unlock NoDo. Of course someone would have to figure a way to make their own patch with the registry edits that unlock & prevent relock of the device & of course not kill the update exe. Just a thought.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
I am getting a different result with v1.9.

started with admin rights, told the program NO, stick with v4.8 files (short backup), set the paths, and the program found the current restore. When I asked it to archive it it threw an error message with access denied problem. Do I want to continue anyway? When I click yes, the program continues and makes the backup. completes at 100% with success message. After unplugging phone from USB the phone reboots.

thank you
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
When does this occur, at startup? When you hit the backup button? Also is this your first time using this?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
It was the second try. In the first try it gave me an access denied when I started the program. I then started it with admin rights.

It found an existing restore and gave me the option to overwrite or first archive the existing one. When I chose archive the existing one I got the error with access denied. I then chose to let it overwrite the existing one and it continued working. I haven't tried again since then.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
I run as a non-admin on my work machine with none of those types of issues :( Is your archive store pointed somewhere other than your own account?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
Is your machines language something other than english?

At what point in the process does the error occur? Startup, after clicking backup or restore?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
own account. I will play a little more tonight.