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[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] msllc:
Can this be used to restore on a Different Phone/Same Model?

Hi All,

I have a Dell Venue Pro upgraded to Mango. I have been having problems with the Dell phone's speakers, so Dell sent me a replacement unit. Question is, can I backup the faulty phone using this tool and then restore the backup image to the new replacement Dell phone?

Should I upgrade the new replacement Dell phone to Mango before I do the restore?

Just wondering if this can be done as I would hate to lose all my Text Messages. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Ringo
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] petbede:
Hi there,

It's kinda SAD to say but it won't be possible to restore another phone backup with another one. Due to the fact that every phone have a unique code, and every backup is attached with that and there's no way to change it.

In a nutshell, it won't be possible to restore another backup to another phone, u won't be able to get the messages back. SORRY

Hope I Have Been Of Help. PEACE!!!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] myphonerules:
Hi guys,

Before I go down a rabit warren I would just like to ask a few questions about this tool.

I did something really dumb with my phone (Samsung focus)http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=18679740#post18679740

However the phone is still booting etc. I have about 4 different backups that I made a backup onto my USB drive of this phone when it had the right ROM.

My questions are:

1. Can I use this tool to restore my phone with the backups I already have on my USB drive?

2. I read all 64 pages of this thread and am a little confused about something but thought I would ask - does 1.9 work with the latest Zune?

Thank you once again

---------- Post added at 10:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 AM ----------

Got v1.9 working point it to my archive backups, mark the archives as active but no matter how many of them I select (got 8 backups) I get "No restore point found!" - The sizes of the backups vary from 400mb to 8.6gigs for my Samsung Focus.

I am pretty sure I have complete backups here.

Any advise?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] msllc:
Well that sucks! Is there any way to transfer text messages from one Windows Phone 7 to another?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] petbede:
Hi there,

There is a way to save your saves games data and transfer to any phone, after flashing a new ROM or whatever but don't know about it working for text messages.

Hope I Have Been Of Help. PEACE!!!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
Yes it works with the latest version of zune.

The problem folks are having is that their phone tools version does not match their zune version exactly. If they don't the phone tools terminate with an error.

As far as restoring from memory stick. The files have to be on the local computer in a specific spot in your profile path:

%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

So you could point the app to your thumb drive as the backup archive but when you restored it would MOVE the files to the local drive and I would not recomment that because if anything goes wrong or you re-install/change zune they may get deleted. Copy them there instead. I hope you got the whole dir structure from that point in the path.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] borich:
i'have done a backup with zune...than i flashed a new rom, and now the backup doesn't work in zune anymore.(still 0% and than reboot)

Can i solve using this app? i try to put all the file of previuos backup but it didn't work:(
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hx4700 Killer:
Provably not because it uses the same functions that Zune does. If the backup was a different OS version you might have to flash back to that version then try the restore

Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] borich:
i tried...flash back older open eu rom, but nothing...

i have 5.85 giga of useless backup:(
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] amitbhavi:
version 1.9, unable to install, error massage is not a valid win 32 application:confused:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] woodbane:
Ditto. Thing is, the first time I ran this it looked like it was all set to go and then I had to cancel out as I was leaving work (poor planning on my part I know). When I retried it, I got the error message above.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
That typically means you're trying to install the wrong architecture. Are you running 32-bit Windows, by any chance? Make sure you're using the 32-bit version, in that case.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] woodbane:
Nope. I'm trying to run the 64 bit version on a 64 bit Win 7 machine.

Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Gootah:
A few problems....

A) I cant get my hand on Phone Tools 4.7, will this be a problem?

B) I'm using the Zune 4.7 .dll file, but I have 4.8 installed. Will that be a problem?

C) When I hit "Backup Phone!" it starts the native updater, am I supposed to hit the "Recover" button @ this point?

I can't afford to screw this up even once as I have important data on the phone, this is why I'm making a backup.

Thanks for the help doods!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] registermeimmediately:
I have the same problems as the person above me. Need help also.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
@Gootah: Using 4.8 will work just fine, as long as your UpdateWP.exe and Zune versions are identical ("4.8" isn't enough, the build numbers have to match). It will make a mini-backup, which is all your data except for the stuff that Zune can sync (music, videos, pictures). I'm honestly not sure why you'd want to include that stuff in the backup; it's already on my computer, I don't need N+1 copies of it if I want to keep N backups. It makes backup take longer, restore take longer, and uses more disk space.

As for "the native updater" I assume you mean the flashing mode on the phone? That is both expected and required. You can't make an image-based backup of a running system. Besides, that's the same mode Zune uses when taking a backup prior to installing an update, and since this program is calling the same function, I'd be worried if it *didn't* switch to that mode. That said, note that after taking a backup with this tool I had to pull my phone's battery to get it to boot normally; just power-cycling it wasn't enough.

By the way, there are older versions of both Zune and UpdateWP available (on this forum, I think). I don't have the download links handy anymore, but I was able to find them a few days ago with a few quick searches in Bing.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Calene:
I keep getting "Input string was not in a correct format." no matter what I do. Running latest Zune and the matching UpdateWP.exe. Using 64bit exectuables. I've tried 1.6 and 1.9 same error.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] inspectoralex:
If your backup version is 7720.68 and your open eu rom is 7392, you need to update first to 7720.68 with zune update, then restore your backup.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] oswald-josh:
i need help with .. the application is not a valid win32 executable... even tho i am using x64 bit.. and my zune and support tools everything is x64.. i dont know what to do

ok so i am using now v1.4 and it wokrs but then i egt this error. -->>

System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'Interop.WM7UpdateLib, Version=4.8.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.File name: 'Interop.WM7UpdateLib, Version=4.8.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'

at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.DeviceUpdate.DeviceManager .Initialize()

at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.DeviceUpdate.DeviceManager .get_Instance()

at wm7update.Program.Main(String[] args)

WRN: Assembly binding logging is turned OFF.

To enable assembly bind failure logging, set the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog] (DWORD) to 1.

Note: There is some performance penalty associated with assembly bind failure logging.

To turn this feature off, remove the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog].

any idea on what i can do?? please help
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
I ran into this issue too.

First question: Is your Zune install in the default location? The support tool installer seems kind of... stupid. It always installs in \Program Files\Zune even if Zune isn't actually installed there. You can copy the files from that location to wherever Zune is installed, if not. Be careful of overwrites.

Next question (really the important one, but the question above can be the reason for the problem): Is there a file called wm7updatelib.dll, or similar, in the folder with your UpdateWP.exe? If so, is it the same version (exactly, down to the build number)? If not, you may need to re-install the support tool (I suggest uninstalling it first, using appwiz.cpl).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Calene:
Alright, got it working by setting my Format in Region and Language to English (United States). A three day headache caused by something so simple. Oh well at least it's working now. Thank you.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] NebZoNe:
Hi hx4700 Killer,

can't tell you how awesome is that backup utility!!huge thing!!!

it took me quiet a long to understand and make it happen but now...restoring my phone entirely is a dream i can touch...

Many many thanks to you!!!!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] DavidinCT:
Setting something up and need some advice. After having issues and not being able to create full backups with 4.8 and 4.7 is a PIA because it keeps yelling to upgrade, I decied to fix the problem for good.

I built a XP Sp3, Virutal machine, just for this. I installed Zune 4.7.1404.0 (I have a version that will not update on install) and trying to find the Tools for 4.7.1404 (anyone have?). This VM will maps a local drive from the main PC to move the backups to. So, there should be no issues with software conflicts or other issues that should cause backups to fail. When I want to backup or restore, I just boot up the VM and bang ! It should just work.

This brings up a question... I am running Mango Retail (released from carrier), I know 4.7 will not even see a mango device. Is this the best method with this version of software (Zune and support tools) or is there a better way to do this ?

Should I not even care about the Zune version as I wont even be opening it (Zune wont even see the mango version)?

Should I be using a different version of Zune/Support tools with 1.9 for the best results ?

I need a solid, dependable backup from this, so the best version would be helpful. I have no need to run Zune on this VM (only installed for this app), so any version will do.

Or will 4.7.1404 (Zune/Tools/1.9) just do exactly what I want with no worries at all ?

Thanks !!!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] wpxbox:
I was able to make this work work using Zune 4.8 and v 1.9. Works flawlessly and backups up everything. I have created a video for this if anybody wants to check it out.

I have Samsung Focus Mango 1.3
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Flashmaster591:
X2 issues

Hi All

Any help here would be great.

Win Vista Ultimate X64

WP tools 4.8

Zune 4.8

Issue 1 =

When I run a backup I get the message that the back up was successful.

The message then says that I should unplug my phone and it should auto reboot but if phone does not auto reboot I should press the power button and the phone will restart.

My HD7 doesn’t behave like this.

After I pull the lead out it never auto reboots and when I press power button the phone reboots back into the update/back up screen.

The only way to get it to reboot it is battery pull.

It has always done this and I never thought to post about it until last night when I get

Issue 2 =

Running Deepshinning V3 rom

Took a backup

Got the back up successful message

Pulled lead but phone did not auto reboot

Pressed power button to reboot

Phone stuck on deepshining boot screen

Battery pulled

Phone still stuck on deepshining boot screen.

Decided to re-flash Deepshining V3 and restore the back up that I had just made but following the re-flash I can not restore the back up either via the tool or via Zune.

The phone just reboots itself at the "restore" stage.

I am thinking it could perhaps be an issue with the ROM or perhaps the two problems are linked ?

Either way the tool should be able to restore the back up as it is the same rom version

Any ideas guys would really helpful as I am stumped
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] wpxbox:
Can you try with the original rom and see if it works.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] showlyshah:
pls add an option to back up and restore contacts , messages , email ids and all personal datas to computer. so that we can do backup/restore those only. that is pretty much problem free method than restoring the whole rom , right?

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actualy is it the problem with that tool or the rom? i got the same problem from same rom, with out doing any thing, not even connected to comp
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Gootah:
Thanks for the help dooder!

The part I really need the answer to is the RECOVER button. I press START BACKUP on the app and then UpdateWP.exe pops up with a RECOVER button. From my understanding the backup app will kill the updater before it recovers my phone, that way I keep my data and have a backup, correct?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
@showlyshah: I don't think you understand what an image-based backup means. It's just a binary stream of data - no part of it is set aside as "SMS store" or "appliction data" at all. The restore process starts at the beginning of the phone's storage and simply overwrites everything. Nothing is preserved, by design; the phone is restored to exactly the state it was in when the backup was taken.

Also, the backup is encrypted. This means we can't mount it as a disk image or something, and we can't edit it even if we knew where to edit or it will be messed up when deciphered.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] kwickone:
hey all, I need a bit of help/advice on this tool. I have read/searched a LOT in this thread, and I keep hitting a snag on my system. Here are the particulars:

I have Win7 64-bit

Zune 4.8.2345.0

64-bit support tools from this installer: WPSupportToolv2-amd64.msi

I see others have got this to work with Zune 4.8, and I would like to as well. Here is the problem: I have no updatewp.exe in my Zune directory.

I did notice that if I install the older Phone support tools, I have the updatewp.exe in my Zune directory. As soon as I install the latest (v2) Phone Support tools, the updatewp.exe disappears. WTF?

I know keeping versions the same is important...what am I doing wrong here? It is driving me INSANE! :)

Thanks in advance!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
Why did you think that WPSupportToolV2 would work? It doesn't include UpdateWP.exe, which is required for this tool. When you install it, it removes the v1 support tool, and since UpdateWP is part of the v1, it gets removed too.

I found the easiest option was just to install an earlier version of Zune that matched my support tools download version, but it may be possible to find a support tools v1 download that matches the release Zune version (.2345).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] kwickone:
@GoodDayToDie

Why did I think that would work...I had no reason NOT to think it would work. I use the latest version of Zune, so why not the latest version of the Support Tools (again, trying to match the versions). In fact, I am pretty sure I got my downloaded version from a link in this very thread.

I don't like to go backwards in versions typically, as new versions come out for a reason :)

OK, I will try using the older version of the Support tools...does not make sense that the updatewp.exe is removed in a newer version of the tools (at least, does not make sense to me). That tells me that this backup/restore solution (which appears to do the trick from what I can read) will be hard to support as new versions come out in the future.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
The fact that the OP specifically mentioned that the link to the tools was down should have been a clue, and there are mentions in the thread of needing to use the v1 because v2 doesn't work. Anyhow, the thing is that the v2 integrated the functionality of updatewp.exe into the core tool, probably because there were people using updatewp to mess up their phones ("Walshed" via forced updates).

When you're using software for something other than its intended purpose, the version numbers matter quite a lot. Frequently, the "reason" for the new version is to make whatever you're trying to do no longer possible.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] kwickone:
Dude, I said I searched, let it go. No need to keep bashing someone for not finding something. I am not going to read all 69 pages of a thread...I simply don't have the time to do that. The v1 vs v2 is NOT mentioned in the OP post...and it is not easy to search for the keywords v1 or v2 on a forum.

I "think" you are trying to help, which I appreciate, but your repeated insults at my supposed idiocy are making it hard to tell.

Moving on....
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Floods7:
is there anyway to do a full backup without having zune 4.7 installed? I hate uninstaling 4.8, then installing 4.7, then installing 4.8 again.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] wpxbox:
My Tutorial

Hi Guys, I have created this tutorial consolidating all the files in one place. It still links to the thread post here but you don't have to scan everything.

http://www.wpxbox.com/how-to-restore-and-backup-windows-phone-homebrew/

Includes a Video also if you want to see it in action.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] redvil:
hi guys

i have same problem here...i can't find wpupdate.exe..i've installe wpsupport tool v2..how can i solve?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] efjay:
Try here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1262471
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] redvil:
thanks but i have this error now

the installed version of zune wmdu (4.7.1404.0) doesn't match the tool version (4.8.2345.0)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
GREAT, should ask hx4700 Killer to put this on the original post.

thank you!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] redvil:
it's so difficult to make a backup:(
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] redvil:
can anyone share updatewp.exe from windowsphonesupporttool v1 please?

also Microsoft.WindowsMobile.DeviceUpdate.dll please?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] go2mp:
hi

WPSupportTool.v1 x86-x64 http://tinyurl.com/d986bje

cu go2
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] AlExAkE:
Can I backup 1 phone, and restore on another?

I have Samsung Focus and just bought HTC Titan, can I use this tool to transfer all my apps/sms/emails/settings from one phone to another? Or Just work to backup the SAME phone? Do i need my phone to be ChevronWP7 unlocked to use this tools?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
Subject line: No. WP7 restore points (what this app lets you create) are encrypted to the device they come from and can't be restored to other devices.

First question: No. It would completely break your Titan if you could anyhow; the restore point includes the ROM and the ROMs from a Samsung Focus and an HTC Titan are different (drivers, among other things).

Second question: That is correct.

Third question: No. This is a PC app, not a phone app, so you don't need to be developer unlocked (via ChevronWP7 or any other method).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] AlExAkE:
Is there way to transfer apps/settings/sms/mmc/call history from 1 phoneto 2 another

Thank you very much, i was suspecting the answer to be like this :( Is there any way I can transfer all my apps/settings/sms/mmc/call history and etc from my OLD Samsung Focus, to my new HTC Titan... or at sms/mmc/callistory and apps settings.Thanks a lot!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
Well, you can use WP7 Root Tools to copy the files off the Focus to your PC. Technically, it's even possible to then copy them (at least, some types) back onto the Titan through clever tricks, once you have it dev-unlocked.

I wrote a prototype WP7 data backup app for HTC phones months ago. Unfortunately, it was never finished because Mango introduced the interop-lock and made the app unusuable for a long time, and then HTC killed it off thoroughly by making HTCFileUtility (the driver used by TouchXplorer and by my app) not usuable for general-purpose browsing.

I can probably easily re-create the backup app using Heathcliff74's Root Tools exploits (and, as a bonus, it should work on multiple device models, though interop-unlock will still be needed so the Titan will take some work). He hasn't released the hacks used to gain Root to other developers yet, though, so no word on when that will be available (and in the meantime, even on Samsung where it works at all, WP7 Root Tools isn't really intended to be a backup app).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] AlExAkE:
I'm sorry I am not very deep into all that WP7 development part, and all I understand is that is possible but it will take time and effort and is possible but for future, not now. In simple world, what would you suggest me do,so I can get the most out of my Samsung Focus and move it into the HTC Titan, in the safest possible way. Thanks again
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] kingblind:
Ok, I have go through every step.. also followed the steps here

http://www.wpxbox.com/how-to-restore-and-backup-windows-phone-homebrew/

backups up the phone just fine, when I try and restore. I manually go the restore phone from backup and the backup tool.. phone reboots.. get to restoring your phone 0%

then the tool give me a "not responding error" tool times out and I get the blank clipboard error "an error occured while performing the restore.. etc etc.".. Please help!! I wiped my phone and now I can't get ANYTHING back.. AHH!!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
Try using the Zune software to do the restore. At the very least you *might* get a more useful error message.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Magpir:
i am running mango OS on my HD 7with the latest

firmware 5.0 SPL and 5.71 radio

i used the v1.9 its not working

so i installed zune 4.7 and Windows phone update tool V1

then tried the

V 1.4 version of the tool

it creates a backup and says completed and unplug the phone

but the

phone screen is stuck in that connect to PC black screen mode

, i beleive its recovery mode.

Somehow i managed to get out of it by entering usb host mode and unplugging the battery , and reinserting it.

Now the backup it made is

only 982MB.

and i do not have many media like videos or music EXCPET A MUSIC ALBUM SOUNDTRACK. Is this correct size ?

Checking on phone info,

Total storage: 14.63 GB

Available storage : 13.85GB

So from this i know that the phone has used 780 MB .

so it should be around this size right?

alSo i have not tried the restore option. I have backups made in July during the mango beta days AND THESE BACKUPS WORKED PERFECTLY FOR ME IN THE PAST, so i am not sure if it will work using this restore because now the phone itself is running SPL 5.0

Will this brick the device?

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can u tell us what phone and OS u are running and the bootloader version
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derausgewanderte:
Those that cannot get this to work should try this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=19341502

[APP] simply 100% BACKUP your phone - to 100% RESTORE over ZUNE

It is based on the same process but it is simplified. It worked for some who did not have success with this.

Good luck

Sent from my Touchpad