yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] thebeardedchild:
Yeah seriously. This is my first Android phone and I enjoy it a lot...but my roommate has an Evo and it's sooooo much more open and the freedom he has is incredible! Even if Moto/ATT doesn't unlock it themselves, it seems, especially with an entirely new firmware update, that bypassing the bootloader is getting more and more unlikely as well..Oh well, since this is my first Android phone I'll be in for a nice surprise when I upgrade to a completely open phone next time!

Which carrier gets the Nexus 4G?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] starrwulfe:
Even if AT&T stands in the way of the process-- Motorola could issue an bootloader unlocker that only works on non-simlocked phones. I have an AT&T branded phone, but it's unlocked and I use it here with Softbank in Japan. This way, they could satisfy the "needs" of the carrier with our wants. Just unlock your phone, and then get the boot loader unlock...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] devize:
I don't really understand your point ken, if AT&T are going to allow unlocked/unlockable bootloaders in future devices then why would they stop motorola issuing an unlockable bootloader in their update/s?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that is possible. AT&T branded users get the same update regardless of whether they're locked or unlocked.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
More often than not, the corporate suits that oversee these matters bypass obvious logic. I honestly believe that higher-ups at AT&T don't have a clue about bootloaders.

Just a guess, though. I could be very wrong! Only time will tell. I'd expect unlockable bootloaders on devices slated for release in mid-Q3 or Q4, but no unlockability given retroactively to older devices.

This is all based on a hunch, so take it with a grain of salt. One thing's for sure: Gingerbread will not bring us an unlocked bootloader. ;) That's what this topic is (technically) about.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] crnkoj:
hey ken is more than 2 touch multitouch enabled?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Nope! 10char
[Atrix 4G Android Development] hosmsdos:
hey ken does holding one finger on screen for 12-14 sec freezez the screen???
[Atrix 4G Android Development] freedom_il:
Ken,

I currently have the French Retail 4.2.11 on my device. I was wondering if the publications are correct and the update will be released globally for all devices or on specific builds separately?

I know that HTC, in example, release the updates to retail versions first (because there is no mediator in the form of a cellular provider) but I don't have any information on Motorola regarding update policy.

Man, I am rooting for Moto mobile department! They said that change is coming when they changed a manager and became a separate company and if they actually live up to that and start updating phones regularly they could become an ausome phone manufacturer because their hardware is fantastic.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] alistair3149:
Time to update the detail?

You said it is 2.3.4

Btw the build number and date is same as Defy's 2.3.4...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] frankiedizzle87:
This thread is about all that's worth looking into anymore for the atrix. Its all that keeps me coming back to threads since no roms updates or kholk. Thanx for giving us something to look forward to KP. So this doesn't get treated like a usless thank u let me stay on topic. Alright the gb update looks promising I hear its really smooth on the droid x (aaron bake phonedog.com) so I know it'll zip on the atrix. Are there any atrix gb exclusives though cause the time gap they had add more animations or additional fingerprint scanner uses?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] crnkoj:
i do believe in his most recent posts he said its gonna be 2.3.3, too bad that the gtalk with voice/video only works on 2.3.4 (just tried it out on another phone and its awesome)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
That's probably a definite scenario with 2.3.4 unlocking the bootloader in sept
[Atrix 4G Android Development] INSM Sin:
How well does the in pocket detection work? I've never seen that on a phone before x(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kaiser347:
Hi, guys take a look at this:

handsetdetection.com/properties/vendormodel/Motorola/MB860

it looks promising for regular users, unfortunately we are unable to download sbf for new versions yet...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jruweaver:
Kenn will you check and see if the bootloader is unlockable on your build?

fastboot oem unlock

Awesome!!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] minooch:
lol!

I guess you just proved yourself wrong :p
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nalomo:
Lol.... Big time.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Yes sir! I did. I'm extremely shocked. It was right in front of my eyes this whole time. Hiding in plain sight. ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jjwatmyself:
Kenneth lives!! We thought you had deserted the island. :P So you know what we are all wishing for now.... a completely native device!!!! No buried / re-branded moto anything.... what say you and who do we need to collectively paypal to make that happen?

EDIT: BTW I thought BriefMobile was your website. :P
[Atrix 4G Android Development] msd24200:
Thanks for all your hard work brother, it means a lot. Hey ken has the camera gotten any better? It's it a new kernel?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shayb25:
Is there a Hdmi Mirroring option?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Server keeps crashing.

EDIT: Will take down images and try this another way.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Nope 10char
[Atrix 4G Android Development] NibblerWeather:
Kenn, thank you for the info.

How is the performance on the new blur? Is the UI much better?

What about radios, etc. I was hopeful for some new widgets as well.

Thank you in advance.

Sent from my GB 4 atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] NFHimself:
That's cool, video is kinda blury though, excuse the pun. Are there any benchmark differences anywhere? I don't like the linux like bar on the launcher, nor the white settings, the video would have you thinking it's just a tilt animation that is the main feature. lol

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] hosmsdos:
kenn that is an awosome news man. cant wait for this. could tell your friend that i need this to check for root too:P

anyway can you check if they fixed the touch glitch issue, in which you keep one finger more that 12 sec then screen frezez.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] daysyang:
so far its looking better...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YvFED3hbBg&feature=player_embedded

video in youtube

could your dude post this to us, im crazy to put my hands in this delicious gingerbread

edit: you could post***
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
dude, youll not post it, right? can you made linpack test, quadrant, smartbench, and antutu benchmark and post the results?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rjohnstone:
I understand your reasoning for not posting the sbf... I can respect that. :cool:

Can you post some speed/performance test results?

Curious to see what gains have been made.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] corneliusm:
Awesome! It's reassuring to see that Moto is chugging away on the 2.3.x update. I was afraid that we wouldn't see gingerbread before the kholk bootloader bypass provided a way to install an unstable AOSP GB build (or Cyanogen port). I'd be too tempted to become a guinea pig...

Kenneth, have you tried out the webtop? If so, have they added anything new or upgraded Firefox?

Thanks again for posting the news and video.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dLo GSR:
this is exciting! make sure you super-watermark all your images and video so all the other tech blogs will show where it came from when they inevitably poach the news.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jimmer411:
Can you post a video showing how smooth the browser and home screen switching is? How is the wake up lag?

Are there still random moments of overall ui lag?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bongd:
Awesome, man. Thanks for filling all of us with curiosity and envy!! :D

Hopefully this is a sign that we're going to see a retail version hitting carriers worldwide!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Hianz:
First thanks for sharing. So many questions :). Is the 1080p recording feature now official enabled? Thanks!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Vangelis13:
It's not. Strange that they're still waiting with that.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] KingKuba13:
Maybe 2012, maybe.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ratchet556:
Let's just hope they plan on releasing it on all carriers at the same time. Also does anyone know if being on 2.1.1 will hinder my ability to download it once it is released?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] SS2006:
3 qs

Does screen off animiation work

IS the orange glow present (when scrolling)

Does Google Talk (new one with video work) theres a hacked version somehwere on XDA that I got to work on my brothers Galaxy S (gingerbread)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jesseji:
Hope they fix the touch settings 2. So I can press longer then 15 seconds :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
It is my website and I posted that article. :) Today I proved myself wrong (thanks to eval- who pointed this all out earlier before we all posted the news).
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jjwatmyself:
And there was me thinking you had achieved separation of left and right side of brain. Anyway, it's a real pleasure being able to discuss the Atrix with the likes of yourself. I noticed you refrained from comment on my pure native ROM business, I mean paypal rally suggestion.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Vangelis13:
Kenn, by all means, this must have been the sweeeetest wrong proving of the day..!! ;-)

Thanks for all your hard work & devotion. You're great!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] msd24200:
Happy

I'm just glad that my at&t atrix will get unlocked, feel like a little kid now.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] msd24200:
Ok what got proved wrong?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Vangelis13:
Post #364 in this thread. Gingerbread WILL bring us an unlocked bootloader!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jjwatmyself:
Do not show this post to you GF... she will laugh to the point of expelling water involuntarily...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] devize:
All I can say is, I told you so Ken :P I actually thought 2.3.4 though.

In all seriousness, that is great news and thanks for letting us know about this Ken. Also thanks to eval and the other devs for finding this out
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bdizzel1982:
I really hope someone on the cyanogen crew is willing to port CM7 to us know that were going to be fully unlocked this just made my week.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] msd24200:
My wife just caught me streaking:o
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jjwatmyself:
Ok.. so you are accustomed to her laughing at you. Tell her that your phone has a battery life that she should be jealous of.

Ok, back on topic so Mr. Clown doesn't renegade me.

I'm really looking forward to Gingerbread. Does anyone have an opinion on pros/cons on full (overwrite) flash, vs. update when GB is released for Atrix?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] live_free:
When this comes out can we just install if we are rooted with GingerBlur or do we need to SBF back and update clean?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Full flash is where it's at. ;)

You'll need to SBF back unless someone creates a magical de-GingerBlur CWM package (wouldn't be too hard).
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Moonshield:
Hey Kenneth

First let me express my deepest thanxs for all you are doing for this device and its community, its priceless to have such a devoted dev that put his efforts on a locked device. I assume that you are working feverishlly on a custom gingerblur rom at the moment. I especially look forward to a new and custom kernel for this little beast :D

will this be a sufficient solution?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1042736

Much thanxs again :cool:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Might do the trick. Haven't tried it!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] msd24200:
Hey ken, any news on ics?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] intimnasc:
OK I don't know about you guys but I nominate Kennethpen for President. Dude you totally rock in all you do.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Athailias:
Hey Kenneth when are you going to get Jellybean Android for the Atrix!?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] LayzeeEyez:
I'd rather go straight to Lemon Drop
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
Or to zebra cake
[Atrix 4G Android Development] silentecho13:
What does google do when they run out of letters?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
They will either start again or go numerical
[Atrix 4G Android Development] WarningSLO:
Start again but instead of desserts... breakfast?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] firefox3:
If i unlock my bootloader what warrenty will it void? The warrenty i pay 5$ for every month through att ? or what?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
I would go ahead and say "yes." That's the best educated guess I can give you. It may void any/all warranties.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] justdrew:
no thats insruance in which case you're still covered
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XXtremeAzzKicker:
No....that's insurance you pay $5 a month for and can be used regardless of any modifacations. Your one year warranty from motorola/at&t "may" be void after BL unlock or rooting.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ilkinansr92:
hey i installed GladiAtrix 3 b0.2 for AT&T 1.83 CWM do i have to reflash stock SBF in order to install the OTA 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 which ever comes out
[Atrix 4G Android Development] KingKuba13:
I can wait. I don't even really like the way it looks. Be curious on the performance difference and such but I don't even have lag on mine right now.

Fixing something, they always **** up something else. :\

1080p recording would be nice, even though I don't see it coming at 30fps and will probably be average at best and from what I heard from moto it won't be coming at all.

HDMI mirrioring like dx2, yes please.

So in reality, GB update offers very little or am I missing something?

Anyways, nice to see some progress. :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jesseji:
Should play other games 2 that require GB. I think?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
Great work Kenneth! Thanks for getting this for us.

.........now get to work and get us root before the software is released. :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] darkamikaze:
if it's GB gingerbreak should work :x
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dLo GSR:
a "please" would be nice =P
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ratchet556:
it has already been said that it dosent work unfortunatly :( shouldnt be too hard for someone to come up with a solution though
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dLo GSR:
gingerbreak doesn't work
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
LOL....of course. Please, oh please!!! :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lyon21:
Ken, have you run any benchmarks yet? Curious to see scores.

Also, thanks a lot! You are the man!

Sent from my rooted, gingerblured badass atrix!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bdizzel1982:
Ken I just have to say you suck sir lol j/k man, congrats on being the first to get hands on with some real Gingerbread for our beloved phone. I suppose it's only fair with all your hard work on Gingerblur. I really hope your friend or someone else from inside Moto leaks this soon so we can all start cracking away at it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Kennian:
Soooo should i root my brand shiny new atrix <my 3gs finaly died> or wait for this update and the roots that will come after? whatcha think?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bdizzel1982:
Root now who knows when this will actually get leaked to us.

This is the easiest way to root that I'm aware of, figured I would point ya in the right direction in case you weren't sure.

Gingerbreak v1.2
[Atrix 4G Android Development] s1mpd1ddy:
Hopefully gingerbread improves the wifi connection. My 3gs picks up a signal where my atrix can't.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] knigitz:
I demand benchmarks.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] knigitz:
Also check the camera, can we do 1080p recording on 2.3.3? Is the "feature" with multi-touch still there? How about more than 2 finger touch?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bdizzel1982:
Hey Ken does it still make the annoying sound when you unmount your SD Card?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] franciscojavierleon:
Cue Admiral Ackbar "it's a trap".

Everyone should stop commenting about root methods on this build. "Your nice guy" will probably report anything back to his employer. All root investigation should be offline. Now that gingerbreak doesn't work, this is most important. We may lose root forever!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ratchet556:
To me it seems like the "nice guy" is on our side :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ricko2169:
thanks for the preview Kenneth.

I guess that once root is achieved, you will have less themeing to do on Gingerblur Roms :p.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Whosdaman:
Kenneth is in class right now, I'm sure he'll be posting more pictures and screenshots ASAP!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] chria01:
Yeah how nice would that be to have gingerblur running on day one of GBs release.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ratchet556:
Looking forward to it :)

Am i the only one that has had this page open all day hitting F5?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Whosdaman:
Quite possibly...no lol

Kenneth said that as soon as he can get Gingerbreak to work on the Gingerbread, he will be releasing a GingerBlur ROM on Gingerbread asap
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Hey guys. Make sure to like my page on facebook, because that's where I'll be adding a lot of the pictures. I put everything up on there already. :)

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.220199921343418.71800.200677326629011

That gallery's got the lot for now.

Okay. Time for some question-answer stuff.

1.) No 1080p recording

2.) Speed is actually quite a bit slower (this is normal for beta builds... don't worry)

3.) Benchmarks coming

4.) SD card mount sound is there
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ratchet556:
1) Thats weird that they wouldnt add that. maybe it will be in the final build?

2) Hoping final build is blazing fast like on the Droid X :)

4) CURSES!!!@!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bl0wf1sh:
Cool man, thanks! Respect your decision to not "leak" the file. Especially since it's a slower beta build... But it does look good so far!

It seems Moto finally learnt a little and tried to improve on the color scheme. A blue notification bar is kinda different, but nice :) Not sure about the white background, but what can I say - it works better with blue than black does ;)

Would be very interested if Webtop is improved... It should be having FF 4.0.1...

Otherwise, cannot wait to finally get GingerBread on my Atrix. Of course, root would be nice! :)

Shameless plug: maybe my data icons can be used instead of the stock ones? I despise the stock moto data connection icons, and I'm not too fond of the GingerBread stock ones either. See this thread
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Quadrant attached. Don't put too much stock in this score. Remember it's a beta build.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] msd24200:
Which ones will wipe it, I want to start over clean

let me reword my original question: which sbf versions are the regular ones that I can flash to do a clean instal?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] chria01:
Have you tried Mandro bench?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Pirateghost:
LMAO!

ReRead what you quoted....read it again and again until it clicks.....
[Atrix 4G Android Development] slowpc:
Will have to watch this and wait until 2.3.3 is ready... can't wait though.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] noob21:
think he wants to know which one to use. cause i think 1.83 dos not wipe data, but 1.26 and 1.57 do.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Whosdaman:
The benchmarks look impressive for a leak
[Atrix 4G Android Development] msd24200:
i'm looking for the 1.57 now, found the 1.26 but big red letters that say don't flash unless you are bricked, im just wanting to "start clean", I have a few tweaks and things that I've been trying and didn't work out, feels like my atrix is kind of dragging now.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] fwdkiller:
Finally gingerbread after I sell my atrix wtf?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shady_lanem:
Good things come to those who wait :P
[Atrix 4G Android Development] chaosjh:
why did you sale it?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] franciscojavierleon:
no one believes the "june-july" date. i will believe it when i see it. september is way more likely. time will tell.

if we don't get root, probably i won't update. root is way too important.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
I believe the June-July date. ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Whosdaman:
I believe
[Atrix 4G Android Development] IrshaadH:
It might prob be June-July for ATT users and an indefinite TBA for intl :P
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rjohnstone:
If it's just an update and not a full wipe and reload, there is a possibility of retaining root.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Jotokun:
Considering there were already June rumors going around, I belive the June/July update.

I have two minor questions

1) Does the wallpaper in the pictures come with the update, or is that something you put on it?

2) Does it include the standard gingerbread CRT screen on/off animation?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
This is true. :D

It will be delivered over-the-air like other Atrix updates.

1) I put that wallpaper on there.

2) No. :( Isn't that sad? Why would they take it out? If we have root, this will be my first MOD on Gingerbread. ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bearsfan172:
Really? They had to take that out? It doesn't make any sense at all...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Every single OEM has taken it out thus far except Google (on the Nexus phones). Ridiculous!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bi0hzr:
i cant understand why they didn't allow the hdmi mirroring!

is the battery life improved? if you could test it already
[Atrix 4G Android Development] TrueNix:
Is turn off animation works?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Whosdaman:
No
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Battery life is not comparable since this is a beta build with debugging turned on. It is horrible at this point. Don't worry, though.

The lack of HDMI mirroring is disappointing.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] yungboss22:
Whats about Neocore, Nenamark and Smartbench 11? :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dj13sins:
Hey June started in my time zone. Can't Wait for the update :) .. Updates is actually one thing Moto is unarguably good at .. now just hope ATT doesn't do a captivate on us ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] SS2006:
ReTweet this post # 39

3 qs

Does screen off animiation work IS the orange glow present (when scrolling) Does Google Talk (new one with video work) theres a hacked version somehwere on XDA that I got to work on my brothers Galaxy S (gingerbread)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AndreaCristiano:
So to apply this we will have to flash back to stock then apply then reroot etc? Am I correct?

sent from my gingerblur v4 atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] tuantuti:
wow, im drooling all over my keyboard watching this video :D thanks kenn for the sneak peak.

now cross my fingers hoping for support of high-profile HD playback on this update.

PS: its amazing that i can't find this breaking news on Engadget :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bi0hzr:
i read somewhere, that editing the build.prop the hdmi mirroring works on the start up until the OS boots. probably motorola's apps are changing the values on start up

idk if that's true. but if it is, its gonna be easy i gess
[Atrix 4G Android Development] logey18:
Great news atrix is crying out for updates Moto need to do everything asap orelse it will be left for dead bySGS2

Ken any link to wallpaper you used in photo