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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] supercurio:
Ah right Nexus S voodoo color.

Lol, did you read the comments in the patch when applying it ? :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Rootax:
Anyone please ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] supercurio:
As it's based on Voodoo lagfix I would say Ext4 only.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] corgar:
New version up soon?

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Rootax:
Ah yes sorry.

Je n'avais pas fait le lien... :o
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Tatsuya79:
Nexus S gamma hack really burns image details as it is.

Hardcore has pushed colour temperature presets through CWM once again in his GB kernel, which seems the "not worst" method right now.

Samsung strange brightness table is still here though, with the 3rd level strong red tint over dark greys.

Well... better than over-saturation and gamma strangeness imo.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
For whom it may concern:

I dont notice much difference between 0.4.1 and 0.4.2 versions at least till now..

Just waiting on that new build..

@ supercurio,

Keep on visiting this thread....it's hot :cool:

Over here, on Criskelo's rom, Talon is super-smooth and I dont even overclock nor convert the file system, only undervolt

Never had issues and I am a heavy user on wifi, bt and gps (onboard car navigation only)

Only missing the FM radio voodoo tweaks which are going to be present again on next build as existz already posted....

Eventhough I am still a Linux ignorant, it is always interesting to read yhour posts :)

Cheers,

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] corgar:
any link for test version? i'm stuck at 0.4.1 here
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] corgar:
And another things. Can you remove journaling from cache partition? Can't install apps >27 Mb from market. Like battleheart.

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
Interesting video I found on youtube, comparing Talon 0.3.1 against 0.4.1 when using for instance voodoo color within the voodoo sound plus app:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TDm_i6hLFI&feature=related

Nice to have 2 sgs devices.......

2 cents
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jaju123:
Where is the latest build to be found, here or otherwise? Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
This video is made by me :-)

If i can get a test build from 0.4.2, i will make a comparison between 0.4.1 and 0.4.2 an 0.3.1 and 0.4.2.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
ok, as long as you don't distribute them & use them for testing purposes

they're still totally bleeding edge builds to test stability and see if everything works

this in-depth testing should help to figure out if there are any issues with the voodoo color patches

@existz:

hope that is ok from your pov
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] existz:
PM sent

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Flynny75:
Some issues with Video Chat. OC to 1.4, and every time I tried, it would crash and reboot. At 1GHz, works fine. In both cases, GPU is at +200. Could there be something with the camera driver that doesnt like the higher clocks? Or is the camera driver not attached to the kernel?

Also... It was my rear camera not the front. Any ideas?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Blondasisko:
betoNL, I followed yoursuggestions in Criskelo's rom thread and flashed v7.5 with Talon 0.3.1. Everything worked great but there were slight lags with opening new applications or folders. I constantly had only about 40 MB of free memory, in contrast with about 70 in my previous constellation. Somewhere I read that this low amount of free memory can be the cause of these lags. so I downloaded autokiller memory optimizer and set it on "strict" predefined setting. Now I have usually about 70-80 MB of free memory and everything works much smoother. I'm not experienced or advanced enough to draw any conclusions if change in the amount of free memory madey my SGS work better. Just I want to mention how I improved performance in case someone else encounters the same.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
Hmmm....

Totally bleeding edge builds.....it sounds like some marketing strategy over the edge:eek::p

And we, the down-to-earth noobs, make and find some not totally bleeding videos, but, usefull nevertheless...and also promoting this nice development....

Where is my PM? :D:D:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
the thing is these builds contain stuff that might break your phone and turn it into a nice shiny pricey brick and therefore need more testing :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pikachu01:
How do I sign up for testing? :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
Hello there,

I dont know if you saw my video, that was actually specially made to show that I dont have that "sticking on 800Mhz" bug that lots of users were talking about, among other bugs that I also dont have....but I forgot to show how smooth programs get open and yes I am always releasing ram, eventhough it have been said more than once that in linux, free ram is wasted ram ( I disagree btw).

I will make eventually another one to show that I dont experience lag on rfs and no oc..

Unless you are talking about "micro-lags"...I think I have those, specially when I compare my sgs with my wife's dhd....

But no successful lagfix or overclocking will make the sgs as fast as devices such as the dhd for instance, proving that quadrant benchmarks are useless

In my opinion and I agree with you, the biggest issue of all is the "insufficient ram issue" and always have been....

I think that when Existz of somebody from this development come up with a BIGMEM version for the i9000, then this kernel will really kick it !

Frying the phone (overclocking) and converting the file system just dont cut it.

And I dont care about micro-lags, I just want to run some RAM-hungry apps (like iGo navigation - my favourite) 100% smoothly as I did when I was on froyo, running Hardcore's speedmod BIGMEM versions..

Thanks for your input

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
OCF is a serious issue and developers should not take advantage of it...but.. the more guinea-pigs you have the better :D:D

As long as they are aware that they are doing it at their own risk :eek: and sometimes due the WRONG reason : ocf..

Just my pov....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zenosteam:
any update coming up ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] existz:
Hopefully soon, still testing a few things.. making sure reported bugs are fixed, or atleast attempt to fix them..also trying out a few new things..will be worth the wait
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] exkalibur68:
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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Tatsuya79:
Will there be a version without Voodoo gamma hack?

Well, I'll learn to use the revert commit functions of github if that's not the case, hope that's not too complicated (don't want to use another kernel, Talon is great :D ).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mangus_U*RA:
Hope you're doing something about the low memory issue...these microlag are due to that indeed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
What you mean exactly?

With the voodoo app all tweaks are reversible....you can try some settings and you can always reset to default if you wish....

Talking about the voodoo sound plus version....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Tatsuya79:
I mean a kernel compiled without the Nexus S frame buffer/Voodoo color hack stuff (wonder if we can have half of it? just brightness but not colors?).

Default isn't Samsung default, you can't recreate those values, that's impossible as it is only tweaked through gammas in a dirty way.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rotman253:
hello there,

I posted yesterday about not being able to enable the lagfix , i am using the 0.3.1-1200 OC.

the enable flag is set but when I reboot nothing happens and the OS just loading as usual.

I got an advice from other member (not a developer) to install different kernel , enable the lagfix and then install the Talon once again (over the EXT4 file system).

Is it a good solution?

thank you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] chrystal0925:
I'm using simply honey 3.9 but the new kernels and the older kernels disable my home button so went BK to bullet how can I get it to work?? Or which one should work?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pikachu01:
Are you using Captivate by any chance? This is i9000's thread. You should download Captivate's own version.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] chrystal0925:
No I'm using vibrant but I use i9000 kernels.. I know which thread this is lol I've seen some users using this kernel so I thought I'd try it out..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pikachu01:
Ahh, saw your siggy there.

Not sure about the buttons but I'm guessing that kernels here incompatible with Vibrant is a given. Maybe one of the devs can comment here :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] chrystal0925:
Ha yeah maybe I should just switch to vibrant rom but I've tried a few n like simply honey..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kodos96:
Hi curio, thanks for posting.

So what's going on here is that in my postboot script I'm removing the initram's /sbin, since there's nothing in it that's needed after boot, and replacing it with a symlink to /system/xbin, so that the user/rom-installed busybox ends up at the beginning of the user's PATH, resulting in a nicer shell environment for the user, without interfering with the shell environment during boot (since the voodoo-provided sbin remains in place until after the boot sequence has completed). So it's not actually Talon's sbin that has the broken 'ls' symlink, it's your phone's /system/xbin that has it ;)

So I guess that probably explains why some people are having mysterious problems with Voodoo Control app that we can't replicate: because they have broken symlinks in their /system/xbin.... I'm not sure how exactly that happens though, as I'm not aware of any busybox version from any of the marker installers that doesn't have 'ls' built in.

I could of course work around this problem by just not having my postboot script symlink /sbin to /system/xbin... really I'm only doing that for the convenience of having the nicer, more user friendly busybox shell commands in my path from a shell prompt, but of course if that's breaking things then it's not worth it. You said that

... but I'm not aware of anything else that's broken by this, as long as you don't have broken symlinks in your xbin....

I suppose I should just revert that change regardless, in the interests of caution... but I'm curious: do you know how you ended up with that broken symlink in your xbin? Did your rom come with it that way?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pramathesh:
Suggestions for bigmem version.

The dev might put up a poll as to which features the users don't want in the kernel. That can give more free memory.

I don't use video calling over 3g so that can be kicked I also use two or three schedulers at the max do the rest are of no use. Also tv out server for the kernel is useless to me. Hope this suggestion helps.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Hrithan2020:
+1 for a bigmem version.

No 720p video recording for me. But, I'd still like video calling and TV out enabled just in case. Of course, if the potential free memory is that much (say 375 mb vs 353), then I'd be all for it :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pramathesh:
I don't record much from my phone but if there is an option for 720. I'd use it. Quality over quantity for me. As for the video call why spend extra money to show yourself to others who'd anyway see you every once in a while plus for me 3g is not an option where I live it is only available near my college. Tv out obsolete because I don't have that big of a tv here.

Something more to add to the suggestion. The poll method might leave a few members very unhappy so an alternate solution to this would be to build a bare bone super light weight kernel and then add cwm flash-able add-on to the feature which takes up ram. Which can be directly flashed over the existing bare bone super light weight kernel. I don't know if such a thing is possible but if it is, then it is surely worth a try.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] wong36987:
does it work on JVQ??
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pikachu01:
Yes

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] currydude:
Haha I believe this is not possible but might be through modules for some instances.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Hrithan2020:
Yes, but two additional bigmem versions, one with all such features disables like 720p recording, tv-out etc, may prove helpful and other with the least used feature (but which still uses up the system RAM) disabled, would be nice.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] currydude:
I'd definitely would like to join the beta team for bigmem testing with most features disabled/removed. I do not need the Camera function at all LOLS
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
And I think...first things first....:p

The captivate got 2 Talon versions: regular and BIGMEM (afaik) with or without OC

It would be nice to have the same for the i9000

And then to the next steps....

But then again, it is easy for me to say....I am no developer and wasted too much time on windows CE/mobile devices ...and symbian......now I am tired :eek:

Passing the ball to those younger / brighter gadgets aficcionados...:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Cy4n1d3:
Existz does not have an i9000, so he is not able to test bigmem...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
Here is my new video on youtube... TalonDEV 0.3.1 vs. TalonDEV 0.4.2.6 (latest Test Build)... Image Quality, CF Bench and Quadrant...

Scores (JVQ - ext4 - 1Ghz):

TalonDEV 0.3.1: Quadrant: 2220 - CF Bench: 3993, 1355, 2410

TalonDEV 0.4.2.6: Quadrant: 2350 - CF Bench: 4027, 1365, 2429

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfJLfXsCCNY

EDIT:

I think the color settings in 0.4.x are better then in 0.3.2, but i prefer a version without voodoo color. The contrast is even better with voodoo color, but in my opinion the colors are better without.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
but me haZ

I already did some testing in this area back in the past once I had raised available memory in cm7 kernel from 316 -> 339/340 MB

if you raise slightly above that (for samsung roms it might be somewhat higher)

symptoms include:

- crashes when trying to use the front cam

- sound effects stop to work (e.g. on doodle dash the shooting sounds, background music still works)

- as soon as HD video recording is accessed/used -> crash of cam app

- some issues with picture-taking (afaik if you play with the jpeg memory settings)

- ...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Cy4n1d3:
Right, that's what bigmem does :D Breaking 720p recording and stuff for users who don't need it :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
guys I've another idea for Talon

not sure if it's easily achievable right now:

I remember back when using laststufo's SOKernel and inspecting his source

he seemingly used thumb mode to compile his kernel

advantages include:

- less cache misses

- optimized low power arm mode/code - so probably much less battery consumption

- smaller kernel

disadvantages might include:

- somewhat slower kernel

but the compiler flags where located in Makefile instead of arch/arm/Makefile (where it normally triggers the build)

so I'm not sure if the flags had an effect on the kernel,

in addition to that laststufo had some assember stuff in his tarball so he might have done some magic to get it working ...

placing them in arch/arm/Makefile however the kernel wouldn't compile for me (e.g. tried on the cm7 kernel)

it might be a different story with talon - will try that during the next days when I find some time ...

an update on the perceived higher battery consumption:

I'm running 0.4.2.5 and the patches I added seemingly helped,

if my short test yesterday was correct the battery consumption should be fine again (tested on JVH):

7 hours - around 7% of battery consumption with MP3 playback (from internal SD)

will do some more testing (at least 3 results are needed) ...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
Hey, thanks again..

If you want, try these settings on voodoo app:

Color profiles : put on original <2.3.3

Gamma hack: hit punchy settings....

What you think about it?

Here on Criskelo's rom is looking great

Cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
Thanks for the settings, but in my opinion these settings makes the colors darker then on stock or 0.3.1
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Tatsuya79:
1mn - 1mn40: It's easy to see the problem of Voodoo hack on these planets pictures. You see a lot more of darkest tones you're not supposed to see on 0.4.x (on the right) and it's full of artefacts (16bit like rendering with more gammas than usual).

To avoid this you have to go in Voodoo Control and lower the RGB gamma to something like -40 for each color... but then all the dark greys are almost black and saturation becomes crazy strong (you lose details everywhere in fact).

...and this greenish tint is hard to get rid off. :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pikachu01:
When adjusting the slider, look for neutral grays (according to your own eyes), don't adjust the sliders according to presets. This is due to manufacturing differences of AMOLED screens.

Anyone used SGS Touchscreen booster? Can that be emulated on the kernel itself?
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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Blondasisko:
Yes, I wrote about microlags. It seemed that the system had to kill some apps first to release memory. Now they are almost gone with more free RAM.

and I do not OC nor convert the file system, as I used to. There is no need to. And in OS Monitor the clock fluctuates smoothly from 100 to 1000, without hanging on one frequency.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] _PrEzi_:
yeah, I was also on laststufo's kernel and it had the best battery life compared to IMHO all the kernels I was able to test on Froyo.

Zach - that is a fantastic news (regarding the battery consumption).

Where do I sign in for a snailkernel tester ? ;)

I'm not afraid of breaking things (have made several uhm.. tens of flashes on my&friends SGSes).

I would love to participate and help improve future Talon kernels.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zenosteam:
can someone share the new 0.4..2 test version ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
I think no. It's a test version and not for public usage.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zenosteam:
i understand , for vip person :D, i wish a good luck .the most important is to have more better kernel
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
Yep...but I still need a bigmem version of this great kernel....

The lady giving the voice-guided instructions on the iGo nav app is still stuttering a little ;).....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
That's because you dont use Criskelo's rom.....

Nah...just joking :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
No vips, just some guinea-pigs and some very generous donators :D:D:D

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
it's already available for compilation in the 0.4.x-dev branch of the Talon kernel

so if you know how to compile kernels you could give it a try :)

currently there's no need for a snail kernel since the talon kernel right now looks quite good

development & additional commits are done in the 0.4.x-dev branch
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] driftmachine888:
Can i delete this files?

Hi!! i've just switch to Talon kernel from speedmod.. very big difference.. this is such a nice and fast kernel but i have a question.. after converting my phone into ext4 can i delete this file located at my internal sd without affecting anything?

voodoo_cache_conversion_saved.tar

voodoo_data_conversion_saved.tar

voodoo_dbdata_conversion_saved.tar

voodoo_system_conversion_saved.tar

this files are taking up a lot of memory.. one tar file is almost 700mb.. so is it ok if i just delete them?

another thing how can i disable the LOGs the system generates under the Voodoo folder... thank you so much! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Hrithan2020:
Yes, can delete them,(it probably is meant as a backup, in case something goes wrong during conversion?) and you can delete the logs probably by going to CWM and changing the voodoo debug to off.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cantIntoCode:
Could somone post the vest voodoo color settings that was postrd and confirmed by zach? Cant seem to find them D:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] driftmachine888:
Thanks!

Thanks! you've been a great help :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mangus_U*RA:
that can be resolved in other way than bigmem...

Other kernels don't use "bigmem" and dont' have any microlags..

Apps closed must be removed from memory earlier...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
Was not talking about the microlags, was Talking about ram hungry apps like iGo MyWay (480x800) that dont run that smoothly with any kernel...unless you have more available ram

The "insufficient ram issue" I meant is about that ...I don't really care about microlags
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
which ones ?

you mean the following:

they will make things very dark :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Rootax:
At some point, bigmem or not, our good "old" i9000 has "only" 512mb of ram, so... :/
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cantIntoCode:
Thanks zach, personally I love these settings :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rlorange:
Ditto on zaks settings. The black's are JET and the whites LUMINOUS my screen needs a touch more red tho...

Actually no zaks right too dark... I ramped up a fair bit... damn now I'm obsessively fiddling with voodoo colour again!

**Simply Honey3.9, Talon 0.4.2.5 kernel1.3ghz**
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zenosteam:
my GT-I9000 has a good but oooold TalonDEV 0.3.1 ,well i wait for the new one
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jeebspawnshop:
I'm rocking Talon 0.3.2 on Continuum 6.1 ROM, and I'm as happy as a pig in slop ;)

I can only imagine how sexy the new Talon release will be.. mmm mmm...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mangus_U*RA:
yes but...when?

@dev...any idea about when it could be released? :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] existz:
Hopefully soon, got a few new things that need to be tested throughly before releasing

Sent from my SGH-I897
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] -freedroid-:
That are great news. What I´ve read in this thread the next release of talon will be awesome!

Thanks for your great work!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] existz:
Yea next version is alot better IMO...just a sneak peak at changelog.

Updated base to 2.6.35.13 (will still show 2.6.35.7 so samsungs precompiled modules work..

Updated mDNIe settings

Updated color mulitplier to avoid yellow tint

Some battery fixes

Compiled with 2010.09 toolchains (RIL w/ 2009q3)

Some voltage fixes for stability

Lowered volts for LCD, RAM and ADC

Plus alot more...so some intense testing is needed before releasing..

Sent from my SGH-I897
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jeebspawnshop:
That changelog just gave me wood...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zenosteam:
i think it's will be very hot hot kernel :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mangus_U*RA:
Anything about memory management?

Btw, great changelog.

Sent from my NES using Duck Hunt
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] existz:
well..yea some... we used some new LMK settings, kind of similar to older preset before last release.., some changes to actual lowmemorykiller driver.. but kodos is looking into the issue after long up time, not sure if it will make it in this release or not..