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[Android General] Someone09:
Very nice german review of the Padfone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31sLCpI4CcU&feature=g-u-u

Can´t wait until mine arrives (hopefully) next week.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
WTF... why did I just watch this whole review? XD
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Hmm... Swype installed fine on the pad, and is working great. If I set it up on the phone, no keyboard appears.

Anyone here use Swype?

EDIT: Gah. Found an app that claims to protect Root between OTAs. Wish I'd thought to install that BEFORE updating. Is there any way to roll-back the OTA?

I've done a hard reset (power off, hold Volume Down, power on. Option 2), but it seems to have preserved the changes brought in the OTA.
[Android General] Someone09:
Just wondering, a screen protector for the TF101 fits on the Padfone Station, too, right?
[Android General] cty.stuart:
should do. although the position of the camera and light sensor is slighty to the right in padfone stn. meaning that you will have to stick over them
[Android General] SparkyRih:
the camera on the padfone is exactly centerd, on the tf101 it's more to the right...

But why would you use a screenrotector on a gorilla glass screen ;P
[Android General] cty.stuart:
ok ok... tats what i meant :P
[Android General] Someone09:
For antireflecting.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Yeah that would be a good reason, especially for outside use...
[Android General] pgunning1:
Hmmm seems a great device, and I will get one eventually, couple of this put me off, one the phone seems to have several annoying bugs at the mo, heating, 3g reception and rooting s not as easy as other phones at the mo, but this brilliant forum will I am sure sort that :D

Discounts from suppliers ie ebay are minimal, best offer on the bay is only $10 of asking price that will be excepted ??!!!??? and to be honest its just exploitation, even if it is a great phone $10 off maximum off a $889 is hardly much of an offer.

I have a TF101 and 3 good android phones that easily become wireless networks with 3g so linking my tf101 to mobile internet is not exactly hard and my tf101 only cost me £270 ish with keyboard, so at the moment I am finding it hard to justify its purchase although eventually I know I will, but patients is often rewarded.

Put in an offer of $850 for phone & just the pad/pen and was turned down, so I'll wait for it to come to Europe officially then prices will drop and hopefully it'll be rooted by then and hardware will be sorted by firmware updates, although 3g is going to be a must fix.

Well done to all those that have one, I love cutting tech but my lg 3d and tf101 are as close as I'm going to get till Asus sort pricing on this mobile.

Love reading the threads on this.

ATB
[Android General] SparkyRih:
like you can see I have the SGS2 wit hthe TF101, and using the padfone is wy better than that combo :P

But what 3G issgues does the padfone have? I haven't had any issues with any wireless connection at all....
[Android General] cty.stuart:
there seemed to be stability of wifi issues raised earlier in the forum
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
For the record, rooting is dead easy if you do it before the OTA.

What I didn't do was use OTA Rootkeeper before I applied the OTA. If someone hasn't applied the OTA but is wanting to root, I'd love to know if this works for Padfone...
[Android General] SparkyRih:
This is why people should use our forum :P

But I haven't had any issues so.....
[Android General] oroo708:
guess will just have to wait from devs for advanc rooting :fingers-crossed:
[Android General] commensal:
Mobicity price from Australia is cheaper than sellers on ebay from taiwan. There's "only" VAT (19,6% in France) to add when importing from australia compare with taiwan where we add taxes against antidumping. It's surprising as all devices like Padfone are made in Taiwan...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
what do you mean by surprise?
[Android General] commensal:
There are so many things made in taiwan especialy high tech devices. I was hopping a good deal but there is not so much difference with Europe prices.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
yep... cuz the parent company is taiwan based. HTC, Asus. In fact, most of the mainstream chips and technologies are made in the east side. Intel, NVIDA, you name it. And I agree with you, living on the western side does mean we have to pay a higher price more often than not.
[Android General] 3mL:
How do you guys feel about the weight when using the padfone station?

Kinda used to the Transformer Pad TF300T weighting in at around 550g.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Whenever I take the TF101 out of the dock it feels lighter... but I'm used to the weight of the padfone station... I'ts heavier, but it's not that bad imo...
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
This. I don't have exact weights, but it's noticeably heavier than the old Transformer. Maybe it'll make me stronger if I use it enough, hehe.
[Android General] olly230:
Heat and the hanging touch input are my major niggles.

Slight software tweak and I'm sure it will be sorted.
[Android General] Alle090:
Heat? please develop futher?

is it the phone? when in hand or tablet? After the update.

_________

I just orderd mine and should get it this thuseday. When is the forum for Padfone gonna come up?

and any new on how to root? (or is it to follow any 4.0 root instructions?)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
You can use the form of padfoneclub.com (domain wil be active tomorrow)...

And about the hanging screen... I haven't had any hanging touchscreen on phone or tab at all....
[Android General] lunarken:
any1 knows how to take screenshot of the phone?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Hold down Power+Volume Down, or configure the ASUS settings to be able to hold dow on the app switcher to take a screenshot ;)
[Android General] Someone09:
Some of you might have read the first Engadget review of the TF700.

I have to admit, I was a bit afraid that I would regret ordering the Padfone once I would see the Infinity. But it´s not that bad. The TF700 is a sexy little thing but I am still happy with my decision and waiting for the Padfone to arrive.

Also, I recently noticed that there are already cases/sleeves available for the Padfone on amazon.

How funny is that: The cases and sleeves are available before the device is actually available in more than 3 countries.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
The padfone is a unique device atm... you can't really compare it to any other tablet/phone imo......
[Android General] Seifer1975:
Yes, heat is an issue as the device (especially the screen) does heat up quite fast. But strangely this doesn't happen all the times even though my usage of the phone is quite similar and consistent. Sometimes it gets very hot, sometimes it doesn't.

Second bugbear is that battery is very bad. But I dunno if it is really bad or the phone is not reporting correct. Eg phone can show 99% for 1 hour and then suddenly jump to 85% in 5min. Yesterday also phone dropped from 85% to 29% in 2 hours. When plugged in to charger, it jumps to 56% immediately.
[Android General] Someone09:
Sorry, I should have been more precise.

For me, there were two possible purchases:

#1: Change my HTC One S and my Asus Transformer for the Padfone.

#2: Only change the Transformer TF101 for the TF700 and keep the One S.

A lot of recent Android phones seem to have that problem. The One X and One S do and I think the SGS3 does, too.

Although, "hot" is always pretty relative. ;)

For me, the One X does get hot. The One S and the Desire do get "warm".

That pretty much sounds like bad battery calibration.
[Android General] oroo708:
any devs get their hands on this device yet??
[Android General] olly230:
I'm sure its the complication of transisting between pad and phone that is causing issues with task mangemet.

That could cause a lot of extra cycles and therfoee CPU load and heat as well as trip up other things.
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Just received my Padfone from TW yesterday.

Looks OK comparing to my previous TF101.

I have a few comments regarding the Padfone accessories from Amazone:

I bought the Padfone case, you may its image here - ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41vVLEyurmL._AA300_.jpg and antireflective film for the both screens from Vikuiti (Vikuiti screen protector ADQC27 for Asus PadFone Station and Vikuiti screen protector ARMR200 for Asus PadFone)

I wouldn't recommend these accessories to Padfone users: the case smells with a chemical odor and it does not fit well to the Padfone station.

The Padfone film is about 1mm longer than the screen and both films have almost no protection from reflections.

Wasted money.

Also I have a question: I use Padfone with the docking station from my old TF101 and I recognized that it needs some force to get the locks closed after the tablet is inserted to the dock.

Is this a common issue?

Thanks :)
[Android General] xorgen:
My phone is shutdown when came warm. I have 3 shutdown per day:( Phone came work a bit stable when I selected energoeconomy CPU profile.

This is very big problem for me:(
[Android General] cty.stuart:
perhaps you should have bought the original asus sleeve?

yes, the tf101 dock is not made to be 100 percent compatible with padfone. at least not aesthetically. but functional side is not affected
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
cty.stuart, thanks for the answer about the docking station :).

Unfortunately the original sleeve is for the tablet only and hasn't a part for the keyboard. It's not a big deal, the case for my previous TF101 from Tuff-luv was OK, just need to wait till they make version for Padfone :).
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
This may be a silly question, but do you need a sleeve when it's docked? If the sleeve is for protection and propping the screen, both of those should happen by virtue of the laptop design, surely?

I've only ordered one of those sleeve things to tide me over until UK keyboards are available.
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Sure, laptop design provides some protection for the screen, but doesn't cover backside of the tablet, so scratches are expected with time.

Also case is required because the tablet itself doesn't have a BT pen holder.
[Android General] lunarken:
thanks alot.
[Android General] olly230:
You can do that from Asus customise features menu from settings. No red for fancy hold button down boot. (Unless rooting breaks that option)
[Android General] 3mL:
Uhm so yeah.. I just ordered myself a Padfone 2-in-1 with Padfone Station for ~650€ from a Swedish webshop.

Two weeks ago I bought me a Note, it's great and all but the only issue is that the screen isn't big enough for me. Cheaper to buy a Padfone and give my Note to my girlfriend than buy a Transformer Pad. :D

Should arrive in a day or two - then I'm in your lil' Padfone club! :o
[Android General] commensal:
Wath is the name of the webshop?
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Ah, good points. I wonder how long before I lose my pen...
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I've always used a netbook case for my tf101, and used the same one for my Padfone, but I just bought another netbook casing, and I just realised that it does have a spot where my stylus fits perfectly? XD

But any netbook case would be good for the Padfone...

And I wasn't allowd to take the Padfone with me in a Media Markt Mega Store XD
[Android General] 3mL:
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=753121

Only 14 left in stock. :p
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
SparkyRih and Mr.Clark: yes, the BT pen holder issue was the main driver for me to buy a special Padfone case.

I've already reminded to Tuff-luv about Padfone :) - I have 5 cases from them in my family for TF101, Kindles etc., so I'll wait :).
[Android General] commensal:
Oh!! Too many problems with them in the past to be delivered in France...
[Android General] SparkyRih:
But I don't need the holder :P

I carry it in my pocket, because what if some-one calls while the padfone is in the case, and on mute for soem reason.... the pen will save your life because it vibrates :D
[Android General] cty.stuart:
has anyone ask you why are you talking to a pen yet? lol
[Android General] exitido:
aborting purchase until asus report
[Android General] SparkyRih:
People who know me are used to that stuff... since I also have a watch (as second phone) :P

But I haven't had any response from strangers, since I haven't been calling in public using the pen (I won't avoid it when I have to call or answer a call in public :P)...
[Android General] oroo708:
waiting for that moment to come~ :highfive:
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
How much does a new pen cost? Just in case of a hole in a pocket... ;)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
If it happens, I'll post my storie: http://www.padfoneclub.com/pl/forum/forum_viewforum.php?5 :P

Don't know, probably 60-80 euros... I got it with the station...
[Android General] oroo708:
in singapore its SD138 if not mistaken
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
GOT ROOT!

In your face, OTA! The XDA Community wins again!

As per the utterly marvellous miloj's thread, I got help in finding the magic number for the Padfone, modified the initial batch file, ran it, and BOOM! Root is back.

Tested by updating Superuser, installing AdFree and so on. Backed up with OTA Rootkeeper, although I'll have to wait for the next OTA to see if that works.

WOOHOO! So happy! :D :D

Because I'm paranoid, I'll give the standard disclaimer that I (nor miloj) are responsible if attempting this bricks your phone, blows up your house or raises Cthulhu. If anyone else wants to do a mount command in the shell to check that they get

/dev/block/mmcblk0p[color=red]21[/color] /system

, this should make them more comfortable in believing that I'm not a raving lunatic or anything. ;)

So to sum up:

Go to the thread above, download the files from his link. Possibly find a more up-to-date su and superuser.apk, then just plug the phone in, change the RootDebugfs.bat on line 107 and 117 so that /dev/block/mmcblk0p21 is the correct number, then save it and run it.
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Thanks... 85 euro, huh... :)
[Android General] oroo708:
gonna try it now on SG firmware
[Android General] smelian:
just got my padfone really amazing device im playing with it now really good

xda should have fourm for it

i think its easy to make lot of things on it like galaxy nexus add more button etc etc

and i think asus should sell bigger external battery

btw i have question

if i put my phone inside the pad station does it come hot after useing it long time playing move and game ? and how hot it is ?

thanks
[Android General] oroo708:
just rooted my padfone. thanks to miloj n u sir for getting the root to our device!!

just for reminder don't forget to backup ur root. might lost root for next OTA :D
[Android General] cty.stuart:
there is a specific website made for padfone by fans. www.padfoneclub.com try the forums there.

it doesn't really get hot in the tablet (at least not hot enough for you to feel it) :)
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Oh yes, excellent point!

I've installed OTARootKeeper, but we'll have to wait for the next OTA to find out if it works...
[Android General] chue.hsien:
did you modify the batch file in miloj's thread or the one posted here(the one used for rooting the padfones on the old CHT firmware)?
[Android General] oroo708:
just follow miloj batch with

/dev/block/mmcblk0p[color=red]21[/color] /system
[Android General] olly230:
So it looks like Asus have a list now to fix with the next OTA.

I hadn't noticed anything majorly wrong before the first OTS but now I have. 3 things that aren't perfect.

Mobile data is now being annoying, it just greys out. Some times on and off in the system sorts it other time I need to restart the phone. G/f is on same network with no issue.

My desire used to do the same thing and I can't remember

f it was a radio or a ROM that fixed it
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Tested some energy saving apps on my Padfone and found that the tested ones are quite useless if the phone is inserted to the tablet: software recognizes the tablet's battery as an external power supply and runs in the "charging" mode with everything (Wi-Fi etc.) on: Padfone lost 50% of battery overnight with this "energy saving" application (3-4 times more than without it) :-0 ;).

---------- Post added at 09:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:07 AM ----------

PS. I found a problem with Skype on Padfone: after its installation I made a successful test video call, but after this Skype started to behave unstable - sometimes it was not able to login and even shown zero balance on my account once (I was really surprised, but after logging off and on again my 6 euro were successfully found :)), but the main problem was with connection - test calls to echo123, Skype and phone contacts were not successful: connection was not established.

The problem was solved with removing Skype, reboot and new installation. It works again so far...
[Android General] acky85:
OK so I picked up my padfone from the guys at http://www.mobi-city.co.uk/ yesterday.

I had originally ordered the full bundle (phone, pad, keyboarddock) but there has been a delay in getting the keyboard so that'll arrive shortly.

Ive come from using a HTC HD7 (windows phone 7) so getting used to Android again has been a learning experience. Windows biggest hickup is also its greatest aspect. The simplicity of WP7 compared to Android has left me a little frustrated but I wanted to be able to do more with my phone which is why I'm back on Android (I'll just have to get used to it)

I must say though the padfone is a great piece of kit! The phone is light and feels great in your hands. I spent the day putting it in and out of the pad showing everyone how much greater it was than there iPhone. That said after using the pad for a while I feel depressed going back to the phone as I just love the screen of the padfone station (this is also my first pad type device)

Performance wise the only time I've found it to slow down a bit was while downloading torrents (lets see you do that WP7 and iPhone). I dont mind that much as its sort of expected. And obviously it gets a little warm but I've never known a phone not to get warm when you are downloading heavily.

Its worth noting that apart from a works laptop (where I cant download torrents, music, movies) I don't have another laptop or PC so the Padfone is literally the centre of my techy Universe so it needs to work and work well. Its going to act as my hub for allll my music, movies and documents etc. With a combination of the cloud and internal storage (plus google drive) I should be Ok I think.

The only issue I have found so far is the signal strength. Its worse than my WP7. Wifi seems Ok and have no issues connecting to my home network or works network. But cellular is alot worse. I hope its more a software issue than hardware.

Could someone with a keyboard confirm.. Does it have another SD card on the keyboard?
[Android General] Someone09:
I only have the TF101 keyboard yet. But since they are 98% the same, I can confirm.

But it´s a full-sized SD slot.
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Unconfirmed, but I read somewhere that on the Padfone dock, it's a full sized SDXC, so it'll take SD cards up to some utterly outrageous size...
[Android General] Someone09:
As for the root access: sparkym3 created a tool based on the above description for the TF300: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1706588

I think one could just alter the RootDebugfs.bat and it should work.

Can´t test it though since my Padfone is currently somewhere between Estonia and Germany I suppose. ;)
[Android General] acky85:
This is good. Then I can get 64GB micro SD for the phone and a 128GB SD for the keyboard :)
[Android General] Someone09:
Well, of course I am not sure about the max. size of the storage card.

But I suppose you could always return it if it´s too big. ;)
[Android General] cty.stuart:
yes. that is true. i have the keyboard for padfone. and it has a full size sd card slot like tf101
[Android General] acky85:
Ah yes, there are only supported up to a certain size depending on the device. Ive checked the asus site but couldnt see any mention. I shall try dropping them an email and see what they say.
[Android General] raylander:
Could anyone of the padfone owners please check if app2sd works? It's not implemented in the S3, obviously.

Thx!
[Android General] mart1n0s:
Charging screen

I just got the Padfone from Sweden, with the webpage that someone mentioned before.

So I had a Galaxy Spica before and when I charged it and it was turned off, it displayed the battery charging.

Does the Padfone do that to?

Because it said that I should charge the Fone completely before starting it in the quick start guide. But how do I know that it's charging? When I first plugged in the charger it turned on the Fone as normal and not in the charging mode that I'm used to.

Sorry for all the questions. But I am new to this, and I created this account just because of this thread. My fellow Padfonians, I solute you!
[Android General] Alle090:
The screens shows charging symbol on depending on phone and creator, I don't think Asus does that to theirs.

What said to charge the phone completely before starting? The manual or the phone?

____

BTW:

Here in Sweden the pan has been delayed until the beginning of Sep, We dont get a pen in the tablet or keyboard package. Anyone have any idea why?
[Android General] mart1n0s:
In the quick start guide: "När SIM-kort och batteriet installerats rekommenderar vi att du laddar batteriet fullt innan du slår på enheten" ~ "When the SIM-card and the battery has been inserted we recommend that you charge the phone completely before turning it on"
[Android General] Someone09:
As far as I understand the pen was supposed to be something like a "present" or a gimmick and was never meant to be part of the package in the first place.

So, I suppose Asus is going to see how much of a demand there will be first, before creating big charges.

Only my 2 cents, though.
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
I love that! Padfonians of the world, unite! :D
[Android General] 3mL:
Mine hasn't even showed up on Posten.se yet! :(

Did you get a sleeve with the Padfone Station?

Can't wait for mine!!:victory:
[Android General] mart1n0s:
Yes, I ordered the 2-in-1 bundle from komplett. I choose to pick mine up from the pick-up-point and because of that I could pick it up today and i ordered it yesterday.
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Yep, that's the purpose of this topic :).
[Android General] 3mL:
Woo, glad to hear the Sleeve is in the bundle.

To bad I'm not close to any pick-up-point, else I'd go there in an instance.

Speaking of other things, anyone know what Audio chip is used in this thing?
[Android General] mart1n0s:
Well by sleeve I mean the bag thing, the case.
[Android General] Someone09:
Well, the speakers are made by Asus´ own audio branch Sonic Masters.

Not sure about the chip itself but my guess it is, too.
[Android General] Alle090:
Ah, you read the manual. pfft, no one reads manual these days..

But on the Topic, I think that specific line is there only since the older battery types. They often needed a charge before use and could be charged whenever without loosing performance.

These new batteries you only need to charge full when the phones are telling you to charge. Charging when more than for example 15% can decrease the battery performance.
[Android General] 3mL:
See attachement. :)
[Android General] mart1n0s:
That's the one! :good:
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Not true at all. All Lithium batteries have no memory effect and can be charged anytime. While in regular use you should even charge often and not letting it drop to lower levels for longevity - if it is at 50 and you have a charger at hand and the time, plug it in!
[Android General] acky85:
I didnt think that statement was true for lithium ion batteries. That memory effect only happens with older batteries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_effect

Edit: Jumble beat me to it.