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[Android General] bluebobx:
Hmm, fair point. :cool: Although I'd figured on patrick_spd4u saying that there was no need for the tablet's touch screen abilities if you'd got a touchpad equipped laptop.

However, if you

did

need the touchscreen like a tablet, (perhaps for Windows 8/Metro), then it'd be simple to replace the Sony he was spec'ing with something like an HP EliteBook 2760p or a Leonovo X220 - both of these are

convertible

laptops. Downside of this is that both of these are heavier (typically 1.8kg) and more expensive (list prices around the £1300 mark) than the Asus combo.

Of course, another (minor) point I forgot was that patrick_spd4u's "laptop+phone" combo also needs a tethering-capable plan for the phone (or a SIM in the laptop and phone). On the other hand the Asus setup doesn't. Granted some teleco's have reduced the premium they charge for tethering but, in the UK at least, needing tethering kind of limits you to more expensive price plans (e.g. T-Mobile add a £10 charge for a tethering-capable plan - albeit one that also comes with doubled data limits).

Speaking of price, I checked the current price of a Sony Vaio Z ... the

basic

price of this is around £1000. So if - like steven82 says - you get a cheap smartphone as well, then you're speaking of an outlay of about £1200. Now, last rumour I saw had the Asus PadFone triad (phone+tablet+dock) at around £700, so the laptop-based solution is nearly twice the price of the Asus gear. Okay it's a more capable computing platform, but even so... :o

In which case, like I said, for a specific usage then sure, the Asus looks technically poor, heavy and expensive. But as a general "jack of all trades" it still looks to me to be unbeatable - technically and on the value for money stakes.
[Android General] Steven82:
also note that tethering severely drains the phones battery, you'll get 2 hours max out of tethered usage on the phone. you'll get the opposite effect out of the tablet station.
[Android General] patrick_spd4u:
Totally agree with this one, just figured it out..
[Android General] Justin^Tan:
Well, now there's news about Asus Padfone 2 with LTE coming in September

What I'm curious is, when is the Snapdragon S4 pro, the one with adreno 320 will be released?

I want to buy this, and i dont need 4g in my country. but if the padfone 2 gonna be shipped with S4 pro, I think it's worth to wait for another 4 month to et the best of it

anybody had any idea about this?
[Android General] scottmog:
The first padfone isnt even out yet, still delayed because of the S4 chips. Quick google on the asus padfone 2 and found nothing :confused:
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
At MWC Asus announced an LTE version of the PadFone for September, but didn't give any specifics besides that it will feature the same 1520 mAh battery. It seemed safe to assume that it will be the same phone with the same accessories only with LTE capability.

In a recent presentation, Asus had a slide mentioning the "PadFone 2" in September with LTE, allegedly helping them to further their hold in Smartphone market. I don't remember when exactly and don't have a link, but I saw the slide. There wasn't any other info so it could still be just the PadFone with LTE, but then it would be a very very stupid slide.

Hopefully, Asus will clarify that prior to PadFone availability, but judging from their communication history, I highly doubt it.
[Android General] Marlinn:
I'll give them until the end of june to bring the phone to my country (Netherlands), if it's still delayed I'll go look for another phone... Kinda sad how such a good idea (in my eyes) can be ruined by bad logistics.. (One S for example is available while it uses the same S4 processor...)
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
I'm getting a bit sick of waiting too.

Trouble is, there's nothing else out at the moment that screams "buy me!"

The One X is nice but has capacitative buttons; the Galaxy Nexus is now what... 5/6 months old?

The Galaxy S III has a big physical button and capacitative buttons... no thanks.

So what is there?
[Android General] scottmog:
My phone upgrade is in august anyways, so i have a while longer to wait. My 2nd choice right now would be a galaxy note.
[Android General] bluebobx:
Ditto here - last rumour I read is that initial shipments won't be until the end of this month at the earliest and there's a good possibility that the UK won't see it until mid-July, (and my contract renewal is the beginning of July).

That said, I've kind of slipped the PF into #2 slot - due to a combo of (a) not being able to use the TF101 dock; (b) no notification light; (c) uSIM. My #1 choice at the moment (although the PF is pretty darned close!) is of course the SIII*.

(* not the HOX, although it's great device, combo of uSIM, no uSD and non-removable battery equals "pass" in my book. And yes, I know the SIII is also uSIM - dammit).
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Could you please elaborate what you mean with uSIM? You don't mean Micro-SIM do you? In that case you can drop one of your points against the PadFone, because it uses a normal one. :)

EDIT: got it now, you were talking about the HTC One X. Forget what I wrote...

As to alternatives: I don't like the missing MicroSD slot on the HTC One series, but at least they adopted something like a modern button configuration (although it is a pain with legacy apps displaying a navigation bar with only a menu key on it). I'd much rather have it completely done in software like Galaxy Nexus and the PadFone do, a shame so few adopt that. This might seem tiny, but for me it is the number one reason I stopped considerung the Galaxy S III - no clue why Samsung sticks to this dated setup when Google clearly intends the menu key to die.
[Android General] olly230:
mid july, I assume that is a guess on your part?

I've got a mate going to taiwan in june, could be quicker to ask him to pick me one up...

All i can find online is people saying that you can buy it in taiwan and its delayed everywhere else. The S4 manufacturing plant owning company say they can only satisfy 70% of the orders at the moment and that asus are considered a small purchaser.

There is nothing coming out of asus offically. I've emailed various parts of asus to get a ball park figure and am still waiting for replies.

I want to moan a lot about this but it is only the internet.

I do want this product, it fits my usage scenario perfectly. At £550-600 is the cheapest phone and tablet solution by about 20% (including contract sim)

But I'm now on a k800i until it comes out.
[Android General] Marlinn:
I believe I read somewhere it is delayed in Taiwan until 11th of may, I don't know if this is either true or false, I guess we'll have to wait 2 days..
[Android General] Justin^Tan:
yes, I saw the slide too, and yes, It would be very stupid to give a device the sequel name while all it had was only LTE capability. That's why I'm curious as to what I read previously, Snapdragon S4 Pro coming in Second Half 2012 and showed off at MWC 2012 CMIIW
[Android General] scottmog:
Apple doesnt think its stupid :) haha, maybe theyll call it the padfone s LOL
[Android General] Kozato:
7-11 in Taiwan says pre-orders will be delivered from 16th May onwards.

However another online PC retailer, PChome, have pushed back their delivery date from 14th May to 31st May.
[Android General] bluebobx:
I did say it was the rumours I read that seemed to suggest July for the UK. :D

Other thing I saw yesterday (not from Asus, they seem to be suspiciously quiet on a proper ETA) was that Asus are getting an installment of S4's - pretty much just enough to satisfy current pre-orders - in the next couple of days, with their proper allocation being sometime mid June.

It's also been stated that TW and KR are getting priority, ("home market"?), in which case EU won't start seeing more than a trickle of handsets until end June, perhaps even into July.

But to reiterate, this is all based on net rumour, so it could be wildly off - i.e. we could see Amazon pushing it next week! :p

Speaking of Amazon et al, I've not seen much in the way of 3rd party accessories for the PF yet - apart from screen protectors, generic chargers or styli. To me at least, this kind of indicates that PF availability isn't "imminent".

Should we not be cursing HOX owners for causing this shortage?! :rolleyes: I'm kind of annoyed at Asus - someone in the purchasing department seems to have screwed up, and the least they could do is throw some hard n' fast ETA's out there.
[Android General] nicedeath:
Next unboxing.

Website is german, but the youtube clip is english..

http://www.netbooknews.de/69255/asu...n-video-fotogalerie-smartphone-tablet-laptop/
[Android General] danilos2k:
Can You post a screenshot of your battery?

Mine is 76% in "cellular standbye", I think it has some problems

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[Android General] exitido:
LoL, see my screenshot, its nearly the same:

Descargando= discharging

And i have the same temperatura 1.9

Im waiting the answer of the italian ebayer, i hope dont have problems. I want the refund and i will wait some time to buy a padfone that works properly.

I think that italian version have a problem.
[Android General] spartanier7:
I think the battery performance is quite amazing..
[Android General] danilos2k:
I think is a firm isue maybe the european one

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[Android General] danilos2k:
Can you please post a screenshot?

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[Android General] elmot:
Ive noticed that the battery is draining alot if you have poor signal... klick the graph to dubble check this, its specified more about the batterylife and signal there
[Android General] commensal:
team viewer

I also recommend Team Viewer on play store to take control of a PC with padfone or padfone station:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamviewer.teamviewer.market.mobile&hl=fr

Of course it's free and work with 3G or WIFI.
[Android General] starrwulfe:
What I usually do is zip the directory I want to copy from my PC and drag and drop it into my phone via Airdroid. Then unzip it there. It also makes the process faster because the phone doesn't have to enumerate all the individual files as the transfer takes place.

I found out about this app when I was at work one day and needed to transfer some files from my work PC to my phone. I use my phone as a USB drive but that day I forgot the USB cable! The PC has built in wifi so I set up hotspot tethering on the phone and joined the PC. It worked, and it was just as fast as using the USB cable. My workplace blocks Dropbox, Box, etc... (but not Google Drive! ;))

I'm going to try that Team Viewer app out soon -- But I already have Splashtop... I think the Taiwan Padfone comes with Splashtop too, yes?

...and I hope I don't run into the overheating/battery issues our Italian firmware friends are having now :(
[Android General] Olkflx:
The USB port on the padfone is an OTG port? If it is, can the phone be charged while using the OTG port, without a dock (for example using an USB Y cable)?

If someday we get a custom rom with Ubuntu for android installed, it would be useful to use non-Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Or simply to use the phone with a game controller and a external monitor.
[Android General] Kermode:
You post a request here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
[Android General] oroo708:
woaaaw...just check mine, got the same like you guys.. the temp is 1'C..

I think this has something to do with the over heating issue.. how bout everyone here check their battery status...

Or I think I overcharge the phone?? :eek:
[Android General] oroo708:
Another concern, onle Cell standby, Wifi, Bluetooth, Screen & Android system is the only shown on the battery setting.. weird:confused:
[Android General] Justin^Tan:
I might be a padfonian soon, and yeah, we need a sub forum for padfone :(

I dont have it, still i vote for asus padfone forum on the link given several pages earlier
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
It's a standard micro-USB port. You can charge it with a micro-USB cable and a PC, or (in my case) the Kindle wall-USB plug adapter.
[Android General] phoxy84:
Anyone else experience problems with the gallery? Mine is freezing 90% of the time when I want to look at pictures. Have to pull out the battery.
[Android General] olly230:
I couldn't get the pad to start charging using kindle wall plug.

I am looking for the official leather case in the uk.

I have found one on ebay that is not official but i could do with quick delivery.
[Android General] danilos2k:
Can you please post the link?

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[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
Mine charges fine using a Kindle charger, an HTC charger and any other Micro USB charger. The station will only charge with an Asus AC adapter.
[Android General] olly230:
yes.

@danilos2k

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ultra-Sma...Accessories&hash=item231e5c721c#ht_6965wt_944
[Android General] cty.stuart:
there are some on ebay..the official ones. have you tried?
[Android General] olly230:
ASUS PadFone Acessory Sleeve

£40!!!

there is only one seller...
[Android General] exitido:
caution

i want to return my padfone to the italian ebayer because dont work properly.

I send a message to the ebayer but i dont get answer, now i must claim to paypal.

728euros to the trash?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
If you bought via PayPal using buyers protection, you'll probably win the money back...

Via which ebayer did you buy?
[Android General] zechrisd:
The seller is Labscom ?
[Android General] smelian:
mine the same when it was in CHT version but after i changed it to WW its ok

btw after i changed the firmware the padstation screen not response when i dock the phone inside i contact Asus they told me they dont have this issue in there firmware so i need to contact the seller to return it
[Android General] MeTa Apps:
Could be nice, dont know about the phone tab thing though
[Android General] olly230:
it is nice.

Software is buggy
[Android General] SparkyRih:
It is nice, and the software is not buggy imo... Only a battery meter that can't make up its mind and sometimes when the phone is docked and in stand-by, the padfone station stops responding (just undock and dock again to solve this)...
[Android General] oroo708:
hey...finnish my phone's battery juice for the day, then fully charge it.. just want to check for the battery life in my phone..

no fix yet.still the same even with temperature..

guess there's some bugs going around with the battery system...
[Android General] olly230:
still get sticky lock screen and keypad.

Signal grey out

not had a battery issue yet.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
The battery itself is perfectly fine... and the wifi grayoud, still 3 times in almost 4 weeks now...
[Android General] oroo708:
is the temperature ok?? and mA??

mine 1'C 0mA

but battery performance is fine...hmmmm
[Android General] cty.stuart:
http://shop.asus.co.uk/shop/gb/en-G...es/90-XB2UOKSL000B0-ASUS-Pad-VersaSleeve.aspx

I have the original sleeve from ASUS Taiwan. I must admit I got it significantly cheaper from that price. however, the one up there looks 95% identical to mine, comes with the pen holder as well... The only difference is mine, there's "padfone" written on the pen holder, which makes it unique for padfone. However, the above is just about the next best if you don't mind not having the markings :)
[Android General] mart1n0s:
I'm guessing that you really like Rihanna. :-)
[Android General] danilos2k:
I suggest you to wait for a software update comes out, I'm sure that the European firm consumes more battery, otherwise you would explain that we only have this problem with European SW

I hope for improvement with the next updates
[Android General] starrwulfe:
Well, the mailman just delivered my Padfone set to my parent's house...8000 miles away :(

I'll have a nice shiny (slightly buggy maybe) set of toys to play with when my journey ends. Yay! :)

Can someone test and see whether this works for Padfones?

OnLive Desktop - Android Apps on Google Play

I use the game app OnLive all the time, and it's "buttery smooth" so I'm thinking this will be good as well. Plus I can show the folks who always say "just get a real laptop" all the time....
[Android General] danilos2k:
to this link you can find an italian test review with a Taiwan Padfone firm

http://notebookitalia.it/asus-padfone-test-batteria-ricarica-15212

they made 14 h using the screen for 30%-40% of the test !!!

impressive result
[Android General] NCRoadster:
Unfortunately the market is not letting me install this app.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I use this all the time, except I don't use OnLive but my own desktosps and servers :D

That's why the Padfone (previously my tf101) can replace my laptop so easy :D
[Android General] elmot:
The signal issue... how can we solve this, root?
[Android General] TNTPOP:
YES!

Received today and can't get of it...

Ok, serious questions now :

Taiwan charger... How to get over that one?

Getting a FOTA as soon as connected. Any reason?

Lovely packaging by the way and nice to see in ear buds for music, I bet they're better than the iPh**e cheap buggers I had ;)
[Android General] starrwulfe:
I am going to write all sorts of nasty emails in order to make sure that the padphone gets seen as a tablet too
[Android General] NCRoadster:
I will do the same.

I will also see if I can extract the APK using my TF300.
[Android General] exitido:
But i dont know more people with this problem, only you and me, other people have padfones buyed in europe with the europe firmware and can play and charge without problems...

The italian ebayer has answered to my mail, i must send the padfone and if all its ok he give me a refund.

I will wait to the new firmware before buy again a padfone

---------- Post added at 10:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:55 PM ----------

i dont wanna say names until finish the dispute.

Now the italian ebayer answer to my mail, i will send the padfone to italy (60€ to send to italy + 28 to receive the padfone the last time=88€:crying:) when he receive the padfone he refund my money.

Sorry for my english, my level isnt very good.
[Android General] dimitriossara:
How can i root my padphone with ww(european)version?Anyone knows?
[Android General] mart1n0s:
A new software problem (I think);

I used the station as usual and everything worked great but when it was time to go I opened the back and clicked it so the phone pops out. When I clicked it didn't feel right, so when I pulled out the phone it was blank. I tried unlocking it but it didn't work, not even vibration when sliding my finger across the screen trying to unlock it. I then pulled the battery and restarted the device. Then everything worked again.

But the next day(today) i put the phone in the station and it still worked. But when I tried pulling it again it was blank again. It was dark so I could see that the screen was on but didn't show anything. I put back in the station and then the resolution was all wrong. Pulled it out and put back in, now it works, in the station.

I don't suppose somebody's got a solution for the problem? Has this happened to anyone else or am I the only one? Do you think a factory reset will help?

Thanks for now!

//Martin, proud Padfonian.
[Android General] danilos2k:
Use this link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1706588

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[Android General] jokerigno:
Hey guys it's me again.

I still have really big problems with battery and reboot.... I don't know what to do. I'm afraid that with this issue i can damage the hardware!!! (due to continous reboots)

I need you suggestions:

1 wait for a new firmware

2 send the padfone to the asus support (and goodbye padfone until september!!)

3 ask refound and goodbye padfone forever

It's so strange, i've waited it for a whole year and now i cannot use it :(
[Android General] commensal:
I have no problem with mine bought on eBay with certainly the same seller. Have you try to hard reset your padfone? Don't think it depends on the firmware.
[Android General] dimitriossara:
Thank you but i'd tried it and it can't root my device...maybe this method is only for taiwan versions.

I have put the European version in my device so i want this version to root
[Android General] oroo708:
follow this then if you know how http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1704209
[Android General] NCRoadster:
I am trying to get 3G data with AT&T in the US.

However I am only getting edge.

AT&T 3G uses 850/1900MHz.

On ASUS website, it says:

WCDMA

HSPA+ UL:5.76 Mbps/DL:21 Mbps

3G :

WCDMA :

900/2100

2G :

EDGE/GPRS/GSM : 850/900/1800/1900

Am I out of luck for 3G? :(
[Android General] watzzup80:
I got the padfone last week, the phone is working fine.

However, the next day i had to send the padstation for repair coz of the volume button was moving on its own.

Now i have another problem which i just detected. the default keyboard (input method) changes to Asus chinese hand writing keyboard on its own. i have to change the default for it to work normally. when i take out the fone the default on my phone stays as asus chinese hand writing keyboard

Just checking whether anyone has encountered this? is it fw issue or hw?

i'm thinking of changing the fw to the EU, must i change it on my fone or can i just change it on the station?

Thanks , my first android experience. Don't get me wrong i like the fone. its very responsive.
[Android General] starrwulfe:
Yes, you are. The Padfone supports Asian and European 3G bands only.

(That's what WCDMA means BTW)

Maybe wait until the Americas version comes out, hope it's compatible with the Padstation you already have, and eBay just the padfone and get that one? (That's what I'd do... But I live in Japan, so I'm just going to suffer on EDGE speeds for 3 weeks.)
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
Disable the Chinese keyboards in Settings->Apps.
[Android General] Justin^Tan:
@cty.stuart

just curious that you got your padfone in may 2012 and bought galaxy tab 7.0 plus in july 2012. what for ? :D is it not enough for you?
[Android General] jerrylhl:
Got the same issue for the keyboard. :(
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
My previous reply about the keyboard still applies... ;)
[Android General] phoxy84:
Same here. I disabled the asus keyboard and installed swift key tablet. When I put the phone in the station the layout is messed up. I have disable and enable to get the right layout back. Same after getting the phone out of the station.
[Android General] jerrylhl:
I think this has something to do with the calculation, because cell standby is there and most of the time/percentage goes to Cell Standby, so when time goes, the other items percentage will become less than 1% and therefore they are not showing. Unlike samsung phone, there is no Cell Standby shown. :silly:
[Android General] cty.stuart:
if i tell u i just ordered galaxy nexus 7, waiting for delivery? lol

haha. i got the tab as a gift. i use it for rooting and app trials etc. not my primary device:)

but things may change, fairly soon, when the new jellybean arrives :D
[Android General] cty.stuart:
i had that keyboard issue initially but it resolved on its own after a couple of days. no idea why
[Android General] jerrylhl:
but i need the chinese keyboard too.
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
I think the only way to overcome that would be to root and use Titanium to adjust the system/user apps status of the keyboards. Even then I'm not sure. For the Chinese market I would expect he Chinese keyboard to dominate to firmware. As I didn't need it, I disabled it and the problem went. I later uninstalled it with Titanium.
[Android General] Someone09:
Did anyone already try to find a working volume booster (for the headphones) app/hack?