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[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Alright first and foremost you gotta understand that Motorola is Verizon's bread and butter. They relied on Motorola to pay their bills while waiting for Apple.

So of course they are going to have updates fast. They usually get updates "Nexus Fast" because they rely on Motorola so much.

With that said, it's not the end of the world. We'll have a more established version of Gingerbread.

Just like my original Motorola Milestone, it got Froyo later than anybody else, but its version of Froyo is the best that I've ever seen. (Heck the Milestone's version of Froyo is even better than the Atrix)

The only people that should be upset, are "Bell users" since we still have not seen a single update yet. We still have crippled upload speeds, and it's not fair to ask a Bell user to flash a French SBF when their isn't an official stock version available to fall back on.

* BTW Bell users, please click on the link in my sig and "post" that you "want a Bell Atrix Section".

Mr. Clown OK'd the idea, if we get enough supporting it... :)
[Atrix 4G General] Made2Last:
Don't call people idiots.

The gingerbreak root method doesn't work on the build of gingerbread going around in beta for the Atrix.

So "we" DONT have root. They fixed the vulnerability in the future update we will receive.

The good news is, from what I have read about the newest builds of blur, it is alot less obtrusive. The videos leaked don't look half bad.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] vtmike:
www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/06/01/qualcomm-adobe-optimize-flash-for-snapdragon-powered-android-phones/

Saw this article today that indicates qualcomm is working with adobe to bring flash to the msm7x27 chipset.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Joel Chan:
Awesome :D
[Optimus One, P500, V General] 4silvertooth:
Nice....
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Vip_blast:
Pretty interesting news :D
[Optimus One, P500, V General] hon kin:
but will the 800mhz thingy be the thing that limits us?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Vip_blast:
Overclocking may be a solution? :)
[Optimus One, P500, V General] ViTAMiNCHEG:
These are really great news. I hope we will get flash as soon as possible. Let's see how these things will go.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] vtmike:
Sounds like it may be hardware accelerated. Hopefully it is because my nook with an a8 CPU at 1.2ghz has issues playing 480p flash videos without hardware acceleration. Would imagine my optimus overclocked at 806mhz would have issues with 360p flash videos without hardware acceleration.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Jaani:
Good news but how will we get 800mhz on O1???It should be possible bcoz if not how Sam Ace & Gio are running on that speed!!!
[Optimus One, P500, V General] doktornotor:
You probably will not. 768MHz is completely stable here though, anything above that => not good.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] The_ERROR:
Well, sometime you can get 800MHz. But overclocking is strange device dependent. So, somebody have 768 very stable you, but somebody can have 800 and somebody have some problems also on 710 like me for example.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] GolfnWrx:
I believe the ARM1176 processor is designed to 800 MHz for my LG Optimus V.

Not sure that everyone else is running the same processor, but I think there are two speeds for the ARM v.6, all flavors, which is 800 MHz and 1GHz. The cell manufacturers lower the speed to conserve power and I'm certain buy the less expensive 800 MHz version.

So everyones CPU should be 800 MHz capable...that does not mean that the memory I/O can take a similar speed up - I don't know exactly what is being sped up with the CPU overclock, but the CPU itself shouldn't have any issues. If it is the system clock, then the I/O is already being timed appropriately and a speed up is overclock for it, but 800 MHz is not an overclock for the CPU.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Paulojrc:
Good news people let's wait and see... :D
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Ferenczyg:
Nice! I have been waiting for this from long time ago.

/W
[Optimus One, P500, V General] dislplin01:
it is possible but for most peoples ROM anything past 787 will give a kernel error and reboot the phone the only ROMi got it to work on was Megatron ROM
[Optimus One, P500, V General] lekhwani:
On Spica Max Neocore output was 7 fps and on o1 its 63 fps currently.

Even than I could play games like ninjump and mx moto.

So what difference would be there in performance even if we can clock till 768-787 and not 806.

Will the flash not run because our clock speed is 787 and not 800?

I hope people are getting what I am asking. When our o1 can handle things like Neocore 63 fps, 1gb ext partition, multi format video playback, then why would it be difficult to run flash on 787 instead of 800 even when flash would be optimized for our kind of processors?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] bindaasathar:
Awesome news. Hope we get it soon.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Pezmet:
More or less flash should work on or device even at 600mhz, the real issue is to optimize it for our chip set instructions.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] sarfaraz1989:
I hope so i wonder if our Froyo(O1lg) kernel source varies greatly with Ace's kernel code ...SoC chipset is the same msm7227 for other devices code wud vary but the vga and other arm(assembly) code must be the same..If any kernel developers cud please look into it
[Optimus One, P500, V General] FnH84:
Exactly. And even if there was a way to run flash on O1, I wouldn't bother with it myself. It would only slow down the phone and kill the battery life in two seconds.. I really, really don't understand what the big deal about this is. Low-budget phone, no flash. End of discussion lol.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] xpowa:
This is a good news for our incredible-value phone.

Honestly I don't need it... :rolleyes:
[Optimus One, P500, V General] lekhwani:
Every night from 11 pm to 1:30 am, I have the charger plugged in the phone, while lying in bed and using my phone. At least for these 2.5 hrs battery will not bother me.

Moreover, I have a spare charger from my old Spica in my office as well. Battery no problem for me.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] metalboy94:
There's also the problem that not everyone has unlimited data plans, and Flash animations/games can totally chomp through your quota. What Qualcomm could REALLY do if they wanted to bring a ray of sunshine to the O1 is port AIR. Now that would be something. :rolleyes:
[Optimus One, P500, V General] sashundera:
I wonder if this will work for phones like gt540 and x8 ?I think they have the same chipsets.
[Dell Streak 7] gab182:
Hello :)

I just destoyed my hd2 leo :( by mistake so i am looking for a new phone or 7 inch tab , so is the streak 7 a good device or not that good .

i need an honest answer please?

Thanks
[Dell Streak 7] Z4nd4r:
It really depends on what you're looking for. I love mine, but my wife would hate it (that's why we got her a Galaxy Tab).
[Dell Streak 7] gab182:
there is a review about the screen > they say the screen is not that good ,it has a bad display resolution not even close to galaxy tab .

i don't care about android OS 2.3 rooted is OK with me >:)
[Dell Streak 7] purelywasted:
I really, really like mine, love the 7" size, the weak battery is the only concern I have with it. If you are getting it as a commuter tablet to watch video etc... on the way to work, probably not a good option (battery). If you want a good email, surf, e-reader, some video, apps type device it is great. I can usually last the day with moderate usage,3/4G enabled, on a single charge.

If there was a similar 7" HC cabable tablet with better battery, I would probably go with that if I was to do it again.
[Dell Streak 7] purelywasted:
The screen is fine, if you really need hd movies on small screen, go for it, but for general movie watching, email, pictures, surfing, I doubt you would even notice/care.
[Dell Streak 7] gab182:
what to expect from the battery 12 hr or less
[Dell Streak 7] hashbrown:
It has a 2750mAh battery, I can squeeze 5 hours on AT&T 3G. 6 hours on WiFi w/ airplane mode. This is all w/ intermittent use. Watching a streaming movie will drop the battery down to a little over 3 hours.

In comparison, the Tab has a 4000 mAh battery. So make sure you have your charger. I like mine, it does what I need. For the price, its great at everything. Just hope someone comes out w/ a pen app to write w/ like the flyer.
[Dell Streak 7] XPLANE9:
I was just about to ask this question as well. The Streak is rather inexpensive compared to the Galaxy Tab and especially the G Slate, and offers performance that should be on par with the G Slate. However, I understand that the battery is rather poor, which is really my only major gripe. Has anyone had a Galaxy Tab and noticed any speed differences?
[Dell Streak 7] docfreed:
The battery is not poor, nor does the battery have anything to do with the tablet speed - I have had both and can say that the Streak is a much better deal. The Galaxy is stuck with Samsung's pathetic attempt at an interface called TouchWiz - it's full of bloatware and not terribly responsive. Nor is Samsung very reliable at updates - frankly their software sucks.
[Dell Streak 7] docfreed:
+1 as above and...

you can optimize battery life (if you are rooted) by basically renaming the phone and telephony.provider apk's (I posted how I did this here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1102279

This stops "cell standby" and , I think, stops the software from continually trying to find a mobile data connection.

Anyway, it gave me an extra hour+ of battery life in my own simple testing.
[Dell Streak 7] Z4nd4r:
But this will kill mobile data, right? Cell Standby is atrocious on this thing. My wife's Galaxy Tab will always have screen as the number one battery consumer, followed by an app or two (usually the Browser). On the Streak 7, it's always Cell standby at number one.
[Dell Streak 7] gab182:
Thanks for all of you guys :) i made my purchase from eBay , S7 T Mobile 4g unlocked 16 gig $340 is that a good price for it .

and i do like a good ROMs like american droid from Cyanogen in my HD2 LEO , but not changing them every day like my brother :eek:.

i browse web to much with the HD2 also Gaming , i love android games more than my psp .

I do know the tigra 2 is power full cpu strongar than the Galaxy tab
[Dell Streak 7] Z4nd4r:
If you're using it for mobile internet and gaming, you made the right choice.
[Dell Streak 7] gab182:
tv out

could i connect the S7 to a TV or any kind of monitors by HDMI or TV-out like the galaxy tab .
[Dell Streak 7] Z4nd4r:
Yes. Get the multi-media dock and an HDMI cable. It also makes for a nice stand and lets you charge via AC while hooked up USB. Well worth the money.

Something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-DELL-STREAK...ccessories&hash=item2310e424c4#ht_3404wt_1141

I got mine on eBay for about the same price.
[Dell Streak 7] gab182:
i appreciate your help thanks

Thanks i didn't know that . I'll git it and that leather case from folio , some screen protectors > car charge > silicon cover > 32 gig card or 64 gig if it available

and i'll look for a good rooted ROMs .:cool:
[Dell Streak 7] purelywasted:
One thing I actually like about the limited viewing angle is the privacy, if I am on the subway/bus, it is nice to know that it can be difficult for other people to read my screen. For most things it doesn't matter, but for some of my work email the more privacy the better.
[Dell Streak 7] docfreed:
Yes, it does definitely kill cell standby - as a matter of fact, instead of the little airplane in the notification bar (I always leave mine in "airplane mode" - it's not a phone) I now get 4 bars and an x just like on a cellphone with the data off.

And, on the "what's using the battery" I now get "Tablet Idle" and "Display" as the main things using the battery - "Cell Standby" has disappeared!
[Dell Streak 7] XPLANE9:
Just wondering but does the plastic exterior on the front scratch easily? I am OCD to the extent that I notice almost every flaw on my electronic devices. :o
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] zenofsong:
How so you change the audible selection sound? (that click when you interact with screen elements)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
Settings > Sounds > Audible Selection

p.s. please post questions in the General Section. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] zenofsong:
I meant how do you change it to something else. softer beep would be nice
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
there is none that i know of. Its either on or off.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] zenofsong:
Lame!

isn't there a file that can be replaced?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Success100:
Good question ..gotta be a way to replace it with a friendlier sound. That high pitched "click" sucks

sent from my DAMN FO-GEE!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] zenofsong:
I want r2d2 beeps. That will cause me much joy.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Liquid Smoke:
would be awesome to customize the sound, but i don't think that's available now, at least not without a custom ROM or something. i just switched mine off and left just the haptic feedback vibrate, sound was getting really annoying.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Liquid Smoke:
*sorry for the double post, connection lagged and posted twice, mods can erase this post
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] zenofsong:
Now that we have a selection of roms, is it possible to edit audible selection?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] zenofsong:
Wouldn't it be cool if the phone played a random audible selection tone? Your phone could sound like a baby cooing and giggling.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] phreshjoker:
Uhm, wtf? Lol what do you mean man?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] gr33nzpoint:
First off download or make a custom sound of your choice but, make sure that it's under 2 seconds long & remame it to TW_Touch.ogg Then drag it to your SD card but also make sure your phone is rooted and download (Root Explorer). Once you got Root explorer downloaded open it and go to sdcard & find the sound you wanna use & hold & select copy. Go back once then go to System/media/audio/ui. The default sound you wanna replace is TW_Touch.ogg. Make sure the mount is R/O & just paste & your good to go. Now every time you make a screen selection the sound you chose will be heard. Hope this helps:D
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mcmanuf:
It finally happened. A persistent and good dev "AnDyX" managed to get the digitizer working with multitouch :)

His thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1135965

I think I can say on behalf of the X8/cypress community THANK YOU.

This thread is now obsolute, and is kept only as a info thread!

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The digitizer in the X8 is:

CY8CTMA340

These are some officiel links for the chipsets

Product Sheet:

http://www.cypress.com/?docID=29019

Product info on the homepage:

http://www.cypress.com/?id=1938&rID=51366

Android beta drivers from cypress homepage

http://www.cypress.com/?rID=44238

I have created an account and downloadet these drivers and attached them to this post. It is an i2c driver for the module View attachment 613714

However the driver included in the driver release by sonyericsson looks much simpler, and thats maybe why it does not support multitouch: View attachment 613727

The "cyttsp_i2c.c" file included in the sonyerricson release contains 160 lines of code, and the one from cypress homepage contains 2009 lines of code !

But that one also works for multiple devices.

Detection of which chipset the phone has!

Please there is no secure way to determine what digitizer the phone has from the package, as I initially thought. I maybe thought the SI number had anything to do with it but i was WRONG.

Please stop posting SI numbers in the thread. They cannot be used

You MUST root your phone and have a terminal installed in order to see the chipset version, sorry but that's the only current way:

Taken from doixanh synaptic thread:

Try this command in your phone (either with terminal or with adb shell):

dmesg | grep cyttsp-i2c

If you have something like this, that means your X8/X10mini is using Cypress and therefore it will not be supported by x8gesture:

<6>[ 4.185259] cyttsp_i2c_probe: Successful registration cyttsp-i2c

Also in my experience if you have "permission denied" you must first enter this in the terminal

su

and then you can enter the above commands!

Progress from here on

See the beginning of the thread!

Please write in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1135965 if you have anything usefull regarding development of the driver and try to keep it clean.

Usefull links

[Dev] Bootloader bypassing by Blagus

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1023670

[Module] X8Gesture Pinch zoom | X8 | X10mini | v007 | 11-05-11 by Mr. module man himself, doixanh

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1004740

Multi Touch ? Mod Edit: Use this thread for the purpose.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=976948
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] anmiman:
yeah..it would be cool if some dev can unleash the multitouch potential of the cypress..i own an x8 with cypress myself and i really want it..i dont really care about gaming,i only want the pinch zooming ability because i surf the net a lot with my phone..:D
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mcmanuf:
Which color X8 do you have?

And can you list what it says on the package if you still have it?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] ENVIR:
E15i (white, dark blue)

SI 1241-9136.2 EN,IN from Indonesia

hope this can help

go dualtouch!!!:p
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] AntwnhsAnt:
My X8 has cypress digitizer too..:)

E15i White

SI 1242-4842.2 EL, EN Greece
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] proadi96:
On my box is

E15i. White/silver

SI 1243 - 5606. 3. EN

So i have synaptics or cypress digitizer :-) ??
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mcmanuf:
proadi96

I am not sure..

I would probably say cypress because of the "SI-124" but there is a better way to check it you have terminal on the phone..

I will be sure whenever i can confirm that the synaptic have something different other than "si-124" on the package--
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
My Synaptics X8 also has got 124x-xxxx SI code. SI code doesn't tell the HW revision. SI code represents region.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mcmanuf:
Thanks for that info.. So now at least i know that is useless info indeed..

The problem is the box does not state the manufactoring date :-(

Anyway this was just trying to identify the digitizer type without rooting the phone..

I will update the first post to reflect this..
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Rolandh:
Mine says SI 1242-4363 White X8.

Does that mean I've got a Cypress digitizer?

I'm not a Dev but would love to help any Dev with testing?

Roland
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] maxikorona:
we can't look at si, i change my si to get update and si is only region

more(or maybe all) members xda have coustoms roms si is changed

but any works at mt(or dualtouch) is good idea ;)

if u do something , i test it with pleasure ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] EL_BELLACO:
My xperia x8 that i buy from amazon, is 1241-9136.2 and fake dual touch doesnt work for me :(
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Tobi@s:
SI is not needed for that ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] maxikorona:
i put code from frist post and nothing happen
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mcmanuf:
Please read the first post again. This is a developer thread. The module/driver HAS NOT been developed yet..
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Batcila:
Hello from me too :) I have a cypress digitizer phone but i have found a strange thing today (while i was reading about linux kernel modules as general) - no kernel module is loaded for it :confused: but one for synaptics is :eek:

... So can anyone point me to the source code for 2.1 on our devices because i can't find it on SE development page. I'll continue to investigate ... thanks in advance :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] pandza94:
Cypress chip that the newer x8 uses is 4 touch supportive.

So change the topic name from DualTouch to Multitouch! :D
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] aldee_s:
what do you mean by there is no kernel module loaded? from what i see, the phone loads many modules there. and also yes, the synaptic module is also loaded but useless in cypress phones.

source code is in android's github.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Batcila:
What i mean is that driver for cypress is not loaded as module but compiled with the kernel ... and i can't find source for our x8 (e15i) here http://developer.sonyericsson.com/cws/devworld/search-downloads/opensource?cc=gb&lc=en there is only one for e16i(w8) ... and x8 on android 1.6 .... but as i remember we have e15i from December 2010 when people found that sony-ericsson didn't give their last source

edit: sorry my bad .... found them ^_^
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] celly_:
When I type

dmesg | grep "cyttsp-i2c"

into terminal I got

<6>[ 2.5DD486] cyttsp_i2c_probe: probe of 0-0D24 failed with error -12

as response.

Does it somehow help you.

I am using latest MiniCM6 Release
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] CaptainZap:
Ok so I got one sugestion for you, why don't you buy doixanh a cypress digitizer version of X8 and mail it to him. He said he would help but he has synaptics one. So go ahead and do this, and stop waiting because he's the only one who can do it, he proved it by doing it first for X8 since no one knew how to.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] zzsetozz:
Hi, I entered the code and nothing happened.

so, what did i do wrong???
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] ahmedz_1991:
it's what didn't u do. u have to root ur phone using "onesuperclick", if successful reboot ur x8 then use terminal.

for me i have a cypress :mad: ithink it's better than synaptic but too bad all devs have synaptic
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] jantheg:
What about the first idea taking the cypress driver or modul from x10mini and editing it for x8 ???

Is it possible ?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] D4rKn3sSyS:
It's no so easy as just taking and porting, because they're different drivers, but you may need to take a look here, maybe you can also compare your driver, and see what's on modified driver that is not on yours

https://github.com/doixanh/X8Features/tree/master/X10MiniProMT

Hope it helps

Cheers, d4
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mcpaddington:
Did anyone just try repacing all instances of CY8CTMA300 with CY8CTMA340 from the working x10MiniPro version? There are 95 instances of it in the entire peice of code so it might work. It's worth a try at least.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] widiril:
It's a different piece of hardware so it won't work, if the hardware was that similar than they wouldn't have written the new driver in the first place.

If someone who worked on the X10 Mini's code can copy all the bits that they added/modified, here, then we can assess how difficult it will be to edit our driver :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mcpaddington:
I realise there is a big difference between the Cypress and the synaptics digitizer's But I was talking about the x10mini's cypress digitizer that some people got dual touch working. These digitzers can't be that different from each other. Therefore my idea is plausable, also nobody has even tried it so nobody knows if it would work yet.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] widiril:
I know you were talking about the Cypress digitiser, my point is that, if the same driver worked for both pieces of Hardware, then Cypress wouldn't have made a new driver, they'd have modified the existing one :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mcpaddington:
I don't fully understand your dispute. Please explain. :o
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] widiril:
Cypress wouldn't have wasted time/money writing a new driver if their old one worked with the new hardware ;)