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[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
Nils, I think we should look into this whole, screen freezing unresponsive problem. It's happening more and more often, daily for me now. When I hold down power, the screen works. But after unlocking, randomly it just is unresponsive. I'm going to clear dslvik and cache, but we need to look into this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Not sure how to diagnose this since I can't duplicate it on either of these ROM's. Refresh my memory, which one are you on?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Never had that problem either ???

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
After admitting my addiction to apps and confronting it head on, I eliminated a considerable number of apps, stripped a few useless things out of the ROM that I just never use, and got the space on the Incredible up to about 150 megabytes, and operating RAM usually hovers between 80-100.

The "stripped down" install runs faster, boots faster, and lags far less.

I also went back to the stock phone.apk which completely eliminated a recurrent problem where the phone fails to dial out altogether.

So if you're encountering a bogged down handset, I suggest you see what you can strip out and eliminate to speed things up.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
I have always felt lags and some of the other glitches had to do with not having enough memory on a Inc to run roms designed for phones with 3 times the memory.

My phone is also stripped down and runs fast and smooth .

I keep all my large files , pictures and social stuff on my Thunderbolt because it has more memory than I'll ever need. A lot of the guys try to load too much stuff on this phone and then wonder why they have problems with it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nightshadow:
I hate to bump my own thread about noise cancellation but I just wanted to see if anyone experienced the lack of noise cancellation on this ROM especially when trying to use voice commands in the car; voice commands are practically unusable in a noisy environment. I also wanted to see if Nils had an opinion on this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Truthfully I only use the voice to text to do text messages at 99.9% of the time it is accurate. I have used it a few times to dial and it seemed to work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
hey nils, i'm running 2.3 non 3d right now. this problem occurred almost once a day and it's very odd. i wiped dalvik and cache last night, so if it happens again ill report it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bikedogrun:
I've actually seen this as well once or twice.

Usually pressing power will clear things for me also. My current theory is that Spare Parts may be a culprit? Do you (jayochs) use it? I was trying to use it to increase font size but it made Rosie very unstable and would revert back to "normal" size anyway.

Haven't had the screen freeze in the 3 days since I stopped using Spare Parts, could be a total coincidence but I thought I'd throw it out there ...

/BD :cool:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Could you do a logcat again? Maybe that could help Nils out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
thing is, the problem occurs randomly, and when it does, i can't open the all apps thing to get a logcat....

the only fix is a reset. i can hold power, and that menu comes up, and when it does i can touch those options sometimes (but sometimes it goes crazy and will automatically hit an option like airplane mode, then i have to hold power again to get it out)

and yes, i do use spare parts! i used the version nils includes to speed up transitions...they're too slow for me otherwise haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Ahh, well do you think you could wait the phone freeze out? Maybe it will unlock and you could take a quick logcat.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
i tried last time, it was frozen for a long time...bah
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tjamscad:
Strange I thought mine was frozen, I waited and waited and then pushed the optical button. All good now

Edit: might be important I had just taken it off the charger
[Droid Incredible Android Development] boyer61:
Does anyone use navigation? I could swear it's different. It reads the ENTIRE directions. and instead of saying North, it'll say 'N' and Ave. it'll say ah ve.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kiboe:
can i use the default kernal with this? like i can with skyraider, or should i change the kernal to chads or am i fine?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nooooooo.

no kernels available for gingersense yet. don't flash any kernels.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kiboe:
was just curious, over at android central they kept talking about chad's incredikernal, that's all
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
yep, great kernel, but ONLY works for froyo and below i believe. we don't have hte source code yet for the INC, so no one has made any kernels..if you flashed a kernel over a gingerbread sense rom, it'll mess everything up and you'll have to wipe and re-flash the rom
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
so hey question. i have 100% awake time here....but since spare parts doesn't play well with gingerbread, how can i tell WHAT is keeping the wakelock here? nothing in my info list shows higher than normal battery usage, but i never havs 100% awake time...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
I've never used it before but a friend of mine used JuiceDefender to figure out what was keeping his phone awake/draining his battery. His issue turned out to be Handcent, other than that I have no clue. Do you recall downloading/updating anything new? I know many people were complaining about the latest gmail update and launcherpro compatibility so maybe a recently updated app triggered this?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Go ahead and uninstall it via Settings > application Manage or delete SpareParts from /data/system.app/ and reboot to see if that helps. Most everything except screen animation speed does not work anyway.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
is there any other app that can speed up screen animations though?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
You could turn off animations in Settings > Display > Animations

It does the same thing that SpareParts does in fast or off
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
sweet...if u uninstall it while animations are still fast, it keeps them fast. hope that doesn't change on reboot lol..anyway, spare parts is gone now
[Droid Incredible Android Development] smtom:
All non-3D, flashed 2.3 over 2.2, homescreen clock and weather gone, any ideas? Tried different scenes/skin, no luck.

Edit - re-read OP, trying with wipe.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
+1

Nils,

I am not going to be very helpful in debugging, but I would like to give a +1 to a few other posts, in case you wanted corroboration:

1) I too get lockups. The best I can tell you, is if bluetooth is turned on either in a low signal area, or if you try to activate the bluetooth's corresponding device (such as a headset) too quickly, it may cause the lockups. A battery pull is all I can do in the case of the lockups.

2) The HTC Facebook "sync contacts" being checked regardless of adherer you unchecked it continues. I can tell you that the setting for how often to check does stick (so I set it for once a day). I can also confirm that a reboot -> normal resets the check box back to being checked.

3) Recent apps in the pulldown is not useful to me, and certainly wastes space, especially on top. If you must have it, perhaps put it at the bottom, so those who care about it can find it there, and for those of us pulling down for information, can still see the information without scrolling down.

Just +1'ing prior posts. Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] todd3835:
Some of us actually like it where it is. You must have a lot of notifications if it's really causing you problems, I can see 3 without scrolling at all.....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
todd, try putting it into landscape. then you barely see one. recent apps was a very dumb addition by HTC and it's 100% redundant...just hold HOME down to see recent apps!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
When I remove recent apps from the pull down I will make a zip to put it back if people really need it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rboddy:
This is happening to me on Synergy, and has happened on other ROMS as well, but it doesn't happen on factory Sense. I just removed my FB for Sense account, only thing I'm missing is the notifications for new posts, but I really don't care about that too much anyways.

Backing up Synergy and going to give this Business Sense a shot. Hope it goes well!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Facebook Perma-Sync

Very interesting! While I have no interest in whether "Steve is thinking of buying a shirt", the Facebook Contact Sync is the best way to ensure your phone always has the most up to date contact information for someone; particularly since you can't automatically add THAT information to your phone book/outlook ...

... has anyone figured out a way to scrape their own facebook contact sync information and/or to allow that to update their phone/outlook?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rboddy:
Holy crap this ROM flies! So far, so much smoother than Synergy, I love it! Nils, you might have a convert on your hands if it stays this smooth and fast. I was getting a bunch of FC's and random reboots on Synergy over the past week, I'm really hoping this is more stable.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Is there a way to turn of the four hot buttons. I used to be able to turn the video brightness down to minimum and use the phone in a dark environment, but on this rom the four white lights are a crazy bright beacon in the dark. Would love to be able to turn then off.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nope, i'm afraid that's a bug in ALL gingersense roms :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Was a lot of work to make them go off in bright light on the 3.0 ROM and I did not see an option for brightness of the hard buttons.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tjamscad:
Nils, I am loving this Rom it does everything I need and want
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
You can use Leds Hack(root only) from the market
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Great. Keep us posted

I was just going to mention that but you beat me to it. I used it is one of my Z ROM's and it worked good.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rboddy:
I made the mistake of saying Synergy was perfect the other day. Then I started getting random reboots up the ass and FC's. This ROM after 24 hours blows it away though. Just so massively smooth and fast, no lags anywhere, and no FC's or reboots! Nils, good work my man, good work. The only other thing I'd suggest is offering up the flash to "depaginate" the app drawer. I still had it on my SD card from Synergy so I applied it myself and it worked without issue. I personally can't stand the paged app drawer and not sure how anyone else can either.

I was about to give up on Gingersense, but you saved my phone, thanks so much!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Battery

While I still feel very strongly that while the HTC Facebook sync bug exists, people will lose a chunk of battery time, I am now wondering if another issue for those with battery issues comes from the Amazon App Store.

It seems that Amazon Apps phone home constantly, and apps downloaded/bought from the Amazon App store won't run if the Amazon store is uninstalled or they can't phone home. A lot of Amazon Apps means a LOT of calling home:

http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2...ely-phone-home-and-other-interesting-details/

Just a thought.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tehpwnerer1918:
I tried following your directions to get hoot .92. It says checking PB31IMG.zip, but rather than ask if I want to install anything it just carries on to the next normal screen. Any ideas? Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
1) is your sdcard formatted to Fat32?

2) is the file named: PB31IMG.zip AND NOT PB31IMG.zip.zip?

Odd question, but do you already have hboot .92 installed?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rboddy:
Quick question: Is it safe to use *228 to update roaming and all that, or is this a Sprint based ROM where *228 will jack everything up?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
That is for phones on the VZW network , has nothing to do with the rom

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rboddy:
I've read about and experienced issues myself with using *228 while using a Sprint ROM. It happened to me while running rEVOlution last year, I lost 3G completely and had to go back to factory fresh unrooted stock and then go from there.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Sounds like the rom was not cleaned up enough to run correctly on a VZW phone.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rboddy:
Ha, hardly. It's just a downfall of the Sprint based roms, at least at the time it was, not sure if things have changed. If there's one thing Lou didn't/doesn't do, it's leave loose ends in his roms.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] snellc001:
Where did you find this to flash? I looked all over the Synergy thread and didn't see it. I can't stand the paged app drawer either and would love to get rid of it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Should be on the thread mods.

sent from an Inc with Business Gingersense
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
I flashed this today and it is VERY nice and FAST! I even did the UNTHINKABLE and restored all of my apps and system data, with TiB, from Newtoroot's Optimized Shift and it is still running as smooth as silk. Of course if I have issues I'll wipe and set it up clean.

Great rom Nils! :D Time to try some of your add-ons.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Go for it and let me know how it goes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tjamscad:
Didn't even know that had been done. That should be an option for of these hybrid and 3 roms
[Droid Incredible Android Development] snellc001:
If anyone else is interested in a non-paginated app drawer, I can confirm that this mod for Synergy works just fine with this ROM.

Source of mod is: http://code.google.com/p/synergy-op...Scrolling-Rosie-incredible-synergy.zip.md5sum
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tjamscad:
Thanks it works on Nils sense 3 Rom too
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
Is the zip file zipped? What I mean is, do you need to extract a zip file from the original zip file? There may be a PB31IMG.zip already inside what you are trying to zip.

Sent from the few, the proud, a Marine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
anything new going on over here nils??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Moving slow but getting there.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
cool nils, there's really nothing that needed to be fixed on your rom if i remember correctly.

only thing i'm hoping for the next release is that some mods could come about. i do like some of your themeing, but i enjoy a more stock look (i'm not a fan of the dark rosie, so i like that stock looking one that you get when you flash the non-landscape mod over it, and i like the stock looking light gray lock ring and lock bar) and i'd like to get some stock looking notification icons (mainly just for wifi, and the stock battery with % inside, other than that, the color icons rock)

i'm probably coming back to your rom; i gave synergy a chance and it's running great, but no MMS over wifi is realllllly starting to annoy me lol and you're the only dev who's got it working.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] azgoofball:
Nils - I just did a fresh install and noticed that MMS maximum message size was at 300k. Is there a fix for that? On Synergy it was up to 5 meg.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I have not yet implemented that mod. Will work on it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rboddy:
Did 5MB even work on Synergy? I know the setting was there but I don't *think* anything higher than 1.2MB was allowed on the VZ network.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] azgoofball:
Yes it did. Some people claimed they had to drop it down to the 3mb option for theirs to work, but I had now issues sending pics over 4mb to other verizon phones.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
What it does is compress it to what the network allows even if you select something higher.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
aka, it's a pointless feature. that's why it says "Must have 4g network" next to it.

try out GOSMS, it does an autocompress thing if you check it that'll preserve image size/quality. otherwise, for example, when i get pics from iphones, they're TINY because the vzw network on their end resizes it, i hate it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] azgoofball:
Im not sure about the auto compression, but I do know the only time I have an issue is sending pics to people to AT&T IPhones. My buddy has one and I always have to send pics to his email instead of MMS. Not sure about VZW IPhones.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
hey nils, just an fyi, someone in the synergy thread posted a mod to get rid of recent apps, which i presume he learned from the thread on here about it. i just wanted to say that it does in fact work (i just flashed it), and i'm hoping maybe you could implement it into your next release!

wow. god damnit. right az i posted this, i pulled it down, and recent apps area is there but the area has no apps. damnit!

edit again, a tually it seems to be only in landscape dropdown even tho it wasn't before. it's not in portrait. hmm perhaps he just forgot something for landscape mode..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I regret to announce that I am ceasing development of this and all my other ROMs.

My application for Recognized Developer has been rejected since my contribution to the community has been determined to be insufficient for recognition.

Been fun while it lasted and have enjoyed all your support.

I will leave the thread open so you can help each other.

Nils
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In what way have you not showed amazing contribution? Your work has been significant as well as popular and dependable. If there is something we can do in terms of a write-in campaign, let us know. Thanks for your efforts and time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
This is going to be a big blow to the development community. Is there any petition that we can sign or anything to get you recognized?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I don't think so but thanks for the offer.

They said I could appeal and re-apply at a later date. If the work I have done so far was not enough it never will be.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Your roms are the main reason I have not sold my Incredible .

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jon1029:
this is crazy~!

Nils,

I have been somewhat of a silent follower of your roms. I don't flash every new rom update, as I am happy with the stability of the one I am on. every once in a while I will get brave and try the newest version of your roms. and usually I am happy with it, and keep it for a while.

where/who is not recognizing you as a developer?

i am with the others, and will sign a petition for you if possible.

edit.... there is a thread started in the General section of the Incredible forums...Come on people show NilsP some respect!

regards,

Jon
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Sorry to hear that nils. If your not one of the top devs then no one is. Your work is some of the most stable and fully functional builds out there. Who ever declined your application has no idea what they are talking about. I change roms frequently and your business sense is one of those always on my sd card. It really is a shame when there is so much bickeribg between devs goibg on, you quietly continue to make things work and help the community. Your one of maybe 2 or 3 devs we could not afford to lose. Thank you for all your hard work.

Sent from my dinc runnin some custom rom s@#t!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rboddy:
So who's the piece of **** ****** that denied the application? Or is it a circle jerk of piece of **** ******s? Business Sense ROM's have always been top notch, sounds like someone is jealous and bitter towards your success. Also, is it xda that you applied to or some other entity?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
WOW

That's two horrible announcements for the INC. First HTC announces no Gingerbread for the Incredible, and now Nils, who was our only chance at getting it, announces he is ceasing development.

It is a very sad day for all of us.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] g00gl3:
I am quite disappointed that they chose to reject your application!

It is sad to believe that the community won't be able to enjoy your work going forward.

Thank you for everything!

Best of luck in your future endeavors, you will be sorely missed!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, fck what xda thinks. seriously. look how many of us are running your roms. ****, i'm sure people are still running your z rom! like i said in the petition thread, your work is the least buggy work out there. how can you cease when you know deep down that you're DAMN good at what you do? who cares what the idiots who run this forum think? we know you're a pro.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] g00gl3:
There is an article on XDA explaining the new Recognized Developer group.

Now that I have searched and found it, I am even more upset!

The article explains...

"Again, our aim in this wasn’t to make an exclusive club of developers, but to give something back to those that spend their free time generously making ROMs, apps, and other bits of hackery to make our smartphones better."

Are you freaking kidding me?!?!

How does that not describe NilsP exactly????

Come on people! Show your support!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jlokos:
This is truly ridiculous! This is the most stable, responsive, battery efficient gingersense rom out there. What are these folks looking at?? Nils, thanks for your hard work and tireless effort.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
Hopefully the threads that I started will also help get him recognized. Make sure that you guys go sign the petition if you haven't already and keep posting all over the forums. The members need to be heard so we can get Nils the recognition he deserves!

...PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION TO GET NILSP REXOGNIZED AS A DEVELOPER ON XDA...

*If I have helped you, please don't forget to hit the 'thanks' button*

-Sent from my Inc-
[Droid Incredible Android Development] woznet:
I am sorry to see you go Nils. I have been very happy with your roms of late and I am sorry we will not get to see the Inc 2 base. I hope you change your mind about stopping your work. You have done great work and you have the following to prove it. Keep your head held high, you have no reason to sulk.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spence341:
Nils, while I understand your frustration with how XDA has handled your application, I see how stopping what you seem to enjoy doing helps the situation.

I have one word for you Rootzwiki. I am sure you have been there and are aware how they are operating. Developers and users made XDA, if one gets alienated there is no need for the other.