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[Android General] OuchG:
about micro sd

My PF from Taiwan works with the Scandisk 64GB micro-sd card. I use another one with an adapter in the station dock.

It's important to leave the card's xFat format (I prepared Fat32 - didn't work).

The Phone works great, but I have the issue that the station not always boots up the display after insertion. I have to try it twice or more sometimes.

I'm still waiting for the delivery of an Taiwan/US - Germany adapter before I can charge the station dock. The Station charges - slowly - on my PC via USB.

I have no issues with the touch keyboard on the station. But the "a"-button on the Phone does not recognize each touch.
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
You are completely right regarding the memory effect for Li-Ion batteries, but please also take into account the the aging effect: battery capacity decreases with time, temperature and number of charging cycles (btw, charging heats the battery too) :(.

So I prefer to start charging if battery goes below 15%: this reduces number of charging cycles and still doesn't lead to deep battery discharge (AFAIK, this is not very good for these batteries too).
[Android General] 3mL:
From what I know and read, you should charge before the battery go into deep discharge.

Draining the battery down to 15% then recharge it to 100% is a cycle, whereas charging at 60% to 100% isn't.
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Well, this depends on the "deep discharge" definition - where does it start? :)
[Android General] 3mL:
That I do not know. It's just best to charge whenever possible.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
A full charge cycle means the amount of energy from complete drain to full charge, but it doesn't have to be in one session - as I said, charge often while in use. If you plan on not using it for a while (unthinkable with the Padfone battery), discharge to 40% and put it in the fridge! :)

More info on this topic can be found here.

Deep discharge is when the device reports 0% (which it is not, just a safety lower bound) and then leaving it for a while to further discharge on its own. That can hurt a battery a lot!
[Android General] mart1n0s:
Charging the tablet

So, after some hours of usage I've encountered a problem.

I can charge the phone using usb-cable connected to the charger.

But when it comes to the tablet. I can't charge it.

It says:

"Usb cable connected

Please use the Padfone AC adapter to charge your device"

In the notification pulldown-thing. And on the widget it doesn't say it's charging.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Is it connected to the wall using the charger or a desktop/laptop usb port?
[Android General] mart1n0s:
The wall.
[Android General] chue.hsien:
successful rooted CHT latest firmware using the automated script.

The touch issues seem to be ok without the ASUS keyboard. Im using swiftkey tablet trial as my main keyboard. However, sometimes when i switch between phone and tablet mode, the keyboard defaults to the chinese handwriting one.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Seems liek a serious problem with the station or the charger...

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Where can I find the instructions on that?
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Try ticking the Swiftkey app in the dynamic display list.

This broke Swype for me though, as it didn't cope with the resizing very well. Letting it die, then re-selecting it is a better solution for me, for now.

My question: where can I get a UK plug adapter for the charger? Mine only came with the default Taiwanese one. I had a spare, as I got it for my Transformer, but that still only leaves me with one. I've got the expensive USB3 power transformer, I literally only need the 3-pin end, but don't really know what it's called to start searching.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[Android General] oroo708:
have you try puting the swype on sytem?? (since you're rooted) ;)
[Android General] acky85:
I know what your talking about, I've no idea where to get just the 3 pin bit though.

Its not like any Ive seen before and looks like the connectors from the 3 pins to the transformer could snap at any point.

Mine came with it so you could try the guys at mobi city and see if they can help. The site has a live chat thing so you can get an instant answer.
[Android General] Someone09:
Here it is:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1706588

I think we really need an own section on here from now on.
[Android General] 3mL:
Is there a dedicated number row in portrait mode without being docked?

As on Galaxy Note.
[Android General] mart1n0s:
Battery

As I mentioned earlier, my tablet doesn't seem to charge.

But when the phone is out of the tablet it seems to be charging. It's hard to tell because there is no indication whether it's charging or not. And as i also mentioned earlier it doesn't indicate charging while plugged in the wall and the phone having the phone in the back.(It's complaining on that I'm trying to use an usb port on the my computer, even though I'm not) And I believe it takes a while to charge the 6600mAh battery.

Does somebody have some numbers on the charging time on the tablet?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
See my post on the previous page...

I always charge alll 3 at once, and the widget shows a lightning symbol on all 3 batteries when I plug it in...
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
No numbers, but if you plug the tablet in without the phone, an orange light should come on near the power button. Can't recall if it turns green when fully charged. I'll try and check tonight.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Yes, but onlt in tablet mode, not in phone mode (if using the default asus keyboard)...
[Android General] zillen4:
Thanks :good: that was very easy, now my 2h old padfone is rooted:laugh:
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Erm... you didn't buy that did you? The phone alone with probably an incompatible charger for more than a grand?

Damn Thanks button, too close to the Quote one... :o
[Android General] I Am Marino:
Sorry nothing great about an almost $1000 phone.
[Android General] DarkhShadow:
Well considering the tablet I have now which is £200(1.2Ghz dual core) and a nexus s(1Ghz single core) which still retails at £400, I find £750(roughly converted quickly) is a VERY good deal considering it comes with a keyboard dock as well!

Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
[Android General] hp8050:
The phone looks good enought but not the best.

Hope the camera is good.

Asus is one of the best on android updates. Lets see if they will keep this greatness :p
[Android General] Justin^Tan:
i think what he meant are the post from calical that gives a link on ebay for a $1000 smartphone only, no pad station no keyboard

thats why he said its too expensive
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Actually I am pretty sure he meant the Taiwan pre-order price of the complete package (phone, station, keyboard, headset stylus), which is $980 at current exchange rates. That figure gets pointed at a lot. Note that he says "almost $1000" not "$1000 plus shipping".

And calling that package "a phone", not to mention "nothing great" shows the value of his statement. :)
[Android General] I Am Marino:
I meant the phone package as a whole period.

$1000 for a phone, even with included things is just too much for me.

Too many other things I could do with so much money.

I'm sure it's an awesome phone but it's extreme for me.
[Android General] patrick_spd4u:
But you only got one SoC, one camera, etc

I think PadFone price must be lower than buying both phone & tablet.

Rumour said it is better than iPhone 4S camera, let see if it real.

With ICS on the PadFone, what do you expect?

Because he/she's the only one that sells PadFone, it is normal. The price will get down quickly when other seller (and official release) sells it.

I think it will end up in late June, just like most promises.

Maximum PadFone price for me:

Phone only: $600

(same at GALAXY S II in my country)

Tablet dock only: $150

($75 for the touch-sensitive display, $50 for the battery, $25 for the rest)

Keyboard dock only: $100

($50 for the battery, $50 for the rest)

I would add another $100 if the can cut off 200g from the tablet weight.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
That's for sure. But to be fair, you can't throw in a cheap-ass tablet for comparison. As you practically get a Transformer Pad, we should take the Asus Transformer 300 and a phone with about the same specs (e.g. the HTC One S).

Projecting the prices in my country, the HTC One S does cost €500, as will the Transformer 300 with keyboard (€100 less without) when it comes out. So €1000 (or €900) is the benchmark for the complete Padfone package, which it must undercut by a fair margin. I'd say €800 with keyboard and €700 without should be realistic and offers price and usability advantages. But there isn't much room above. Maybe make it €850 but include the stylus.

Well, Jelly Beans of course. That should be particularily interesting for the Padfone because it is supposed to offer improvements for use in desktop like environments (keyboard + mouse).

And generally I expect a top tier phone to get at least one major update.
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Did I see a Google video about ICS before it launched saying that everyone that brings out an ICS device should commit to supporting it with updates for 18 months?

As to pricing, remember, you're getting a phone and a 3G Transformer and you only need the one data plan.

I wonder if they're factoring that into the prices.

*sigh*

Still waiting for UK release and pricing. Come on ASUS!
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
That's what I meant with usability advantages - you could still tether with your smartphone, e.g. with mobile AP. But using the Padfone as tablet via 3G actually charges your phone while the tethered phone in the other scenario get's sucked dry fast. You'd probably need to throw in a mobile charger, adding even more hassle.

Yes, it is getting really ridiculous. Announced in Europe for release in April, and in mid-April still not a single official statement since.
[Android General] patrick_spd4u:
I don't like the concept of WiFi tethering or mobile AP for personal use, it is just a wasting of energy. It is a good concept if we want to share our internet connection to several devices, for example, to our friends or group, but not just to one device.

I think what Google should do is to standardize a full-sized USB port, just like the Acer ICONIA A500 or ASUS Transformer family (with dock) have. If we have such port, we can easily use any internet-enabled phones to get the internet on our tablet with the phone's USB cable.

I really like if the PadFone has a full-sized USB port on the tablet/station.

I don't really mind having a 700gr tablet if it can function like an Ultrabook or MacBook Air (a USB port).

But, our Android tablets are made even thinner, while sacrificing those useful ports. The A500 is what I think a tablet should like: it has a USB port, but it lacks the Transformer-like docking, which is as useful.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
I don't think it works that way. You would need device specific drivers.

It has two on the keyboard.
[Android General] bluebobx:
That was my take on the padFone too - Hexus (check out the "ASUS PadFone priced and dated" article of 5th April) quote £385 for the phone and £534 for the tablet-dock+phone combo, (I don't need the keyboard dock because I've got the TF101 tablet and apparently it's the same dock). Some folks are saying that Snapdragon S4 is far faster than Tegra3 in all but a few benchmarks, so I'm really tempted. If that price IS correct then that's something roughly similar to the Galaxy S2, but faster for less money.

Heck, if Asus want to do a pre-order deal here in the UK with the phone+dock for £500 then I'd sign up now. :D

Got to laugh though - some folks, (notably AndroidPit), don't get that padFone is not a tablet

and

phone, it's a phone that can "transform" into a tablet. My TF101 is plenty fast enough for me, (especially now it's had the ICS upgrade), I suspect that an S4-powered tablet would be just as good (perhaps slightly slower graphics than Tegra2, but faster in all other respects).

Don't think Asus will sell shedloads of these, but conversely I don't think it'll be a flop unless Asus get greedy and Apple-price it. :eek:
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Likewise. I'd go further, and say I'd pay £600 for the phone/dock/keyboard even though I still have my Transformer Dock

I've just had a quick look at that article... what do they think it is? A separate phone and pad... then why put the phone in the pad? They think lugging a whole tablet around instead of a simple charging cable is better?

As long as they provide support for the people who do want it for what it is, I don't care what everyone else thinks. But yes, if they overprice it, I won't buy it.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
It competes with Tegra 3, and still there is not much conclusive data on which is faster. It might be that Tegra 3 is faster in more complex shader-heavy situations while Adreno 225 (S4 GPU) handles texturing faster, but that is just a guess. Most GPU benchmarks hit the 60 FPS limit hard, and thus are worthless for comparison.

But the Tegra 2 is not on that level of performance. It wasn't really that fast to begin with, and it even lacked some basic features (e.g. Neon for media playback). If it is enough for you in a tablet, S4 will please you.
[Android General] surdustef:
Great phone and useful
[Android General] Justin^Tan:
urgghh, the urge, can't wait for it to release on April 20th and read the review

and then wait for asus to release it here, or i might buy globally >.<
[Android General] patrick_spd4u:
Oops,, I forgot that part. Yeah, we need the specific driver for that. But, Android should standarize that, and make one generic driver for modem-mode, just like how it works on Windows

Yeah, but I need (at least) one on the tablet/station. The 2011 700gr Acer A500 has one, why this 2012 700gr thing don't?

We really need reviews here, since we still don't know much about how the DynamicDisplay technology works outside the homescreen & the browser. I mean.... how it works in Asphalt 6?

I will buy in Indonesia, since even some international warranty does not applicable in Indonesia. Sony and Acer to name a few.

The new ASUS Transformer 300 just priced at $380-$400, making this new Padfone less desirable as you can get a phone+tablet combo for $1000 ($600 HTC One S + $400 ASUS TF300). One S is very similar to the phone part of the Padfone because it has S4 chip and qHD Super AMOLED display.
[Android General] bluebobx:
According to the spec sheet, the PadFone Station (that tablet screen) has a "MicroUSB" connector (and MicroHDMI). I'm assuming that what they've done is take the TF101 and swap the MicroSD slot (which isn't needed because the phone itself has that) for MicroUSB.

Don't forget that if you get the PadFone Dock, then not only do you get two

full sized

USB2 ports, but also an SDHC slot.

Thanks for that info - I found a comparison on TechBuffalo that pretty much backs up what you've said. If you're wanting a phone to game on, then Tegra3 is the way to go, on the other hand S4 is a blistering HTML5 renderer.

Hmm, true - I've got a couple of "hardware accelerated" players for my Transformer 101, and to be honest I can't see much, if any, difference. For what I do - media playback, web, the odd game of Bejeweled/Solitaire and some office stuff - the Tegra2 is perfectly fine. So, like you say, S4 could be a step up. :D

I'm hard-pressed to find a downside to the PadFone (for me at least). Only ones I can come up with are that it's going to be VERY difficult I think to get custom ROM's for this - so we're 100% dependent on Asus to continue to be "good guys" and get the updates out.

The upsides of course, are the value for money (assuming that the Taiwanese prices come to the UK), flexibility, and the lack of requirement for a "tethering" enabled price plan. Although the latter kind of make me think that the telecoms companies aren't going to be in a hurry to stock this. Which doesn't both me much because I'm planning to get a SIM-free unit anyway! ;)
[Android General] 3mL:
Okay, thanks for answering. And to all of you lucky owners: How strong would you say the LED flash is?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Pretty much the same as the SGS2... but it's a phone camera, so don't expect to much from it compared to real camera's...
[Android General] Kermode:
Keyboard?

If you have the Keyboard dock from the TF101 does it work with the padfone?
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Yes, it works ok, but Padfone fits slightly tight into it.

Dear colleagues :), I found that cell standby dominates in energy consumption for my padfone despite of the fact that I keep airplane mode for almost all time and have no simcard inserted.

Is this ok or something is wrong in the settings?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Yes it does: http://www.padfoneclub.com/page.php?6
[Android General] 3mL:
Oh no, of course not. Just that I'm using the led flash as flashlight ALOT.
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
May this have a negative impact on flash led?
[Android General] hippo1n2:
anyone having issue with the vibrator ?

mine is like sizzling sound is so loud... jezz jezz jezz... :mad:
[Android General] SparkyRih:
yeah, that's a little bit annoying, when it's quiet you can hear it vibrate... my SGS2 and even my SGApollo a buget phone didn't have that...
[Android General] Kermode:
Interesting. Someone on engadget wrote they were all incompatible.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
They don't know anything XD
[Android General] 3mL:
No, not really... Unless having it on for perhaps several hours and making it go to hot, then boom. :D
[Android General] G1_enthusiast:
O wow guys, i really want this a couple question for owner though

1. does this have 4g?

2. does this play .MKV file ok? i use to have samsung galaxy 10.1 tab and it could not handle .mkv video, like anime and such or foreign movies.

THANKS FOR ANSWERING!
[Android General] SparkyRih:
The current version on the market is 2G and 3G compatible, not 4G...

And the phone/tablet does seem to play MKV video's, I have tried one medium profile 1080p MKV, it played very smooth, but for some reason I didn't have any sound, but that could differ on other MKV vids...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
4G as answered by previous post.

MKV, it runs fine on mine. loaded an 8gb video in. played rather smoothly, even when seeking through different points of videos.
[Android General] lunarken:
can mobs create a sub section for this fone? i think is time.... all the ans to many Q is in this damn long thread......
[Android General] Seifer1975:
Yes, finally rooted!! Begone you Starhub bloatware....:p
[Android General] Rekka00:
Help offered and Help I need, lol

Not 4g. 2g, 3g, and Hsdpa

I watch anime on mine and it plays MKV great, but also I have to give some consideration for the app too. I use MX player and it allows me to choose which subtitle to see (imbedded or loaded externally) and choose what language to hear. All this while playing and no lag.... beautiful!

Now for the help I need... I bought this with intentions of using it at work for presentations. The micro HDMI on the phone deosn't mirror or anything. The phone doesn't even notive there is a cable inserted. Now I am an individual that when the "rules" dont work in my favor I make my own. Please someone help me with pin layouts and cable diagrams (and if possible step be steps as to how to make this thing connect via VGA). I dont care how rediculous it is, I am seriously in need of this to work and if I make it myself then its that much better!
[Android General] lunarken:
i stuill using starhub... lol:victory:
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
I successfully tested 1080p .mkv movie with size of 8Gb from NAS via WiFi (802.11n) with MX and Dice players.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Damn it... one of the little plastic things holding the backdoor in it's place already broke :S
[Android General] icechen1:
It looks amazing! But I just got myself a GNex not so long ago. Hopefully they will release the next generation of Padfone in time for my next one :)
[Android General] ric242:
okay my english is not good, but i need help

the "asus battery" widget jumps from 100% to 95%, 84%, 77% ....

but not in one steps like 100,99,98,97....

is this right?

second:

any battery info tools on the market like "battery indicator" free or system panel shows in battery information no correct temperatur and make also big jumps in battery percent not one by one steps

is this only in my case?

my battery drains (only phone) very fast in 2hours from 100% to 84%

thanks for help
[Android General] lunarken:
u r not the 1st...
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Ooops... :(

Did you push it too hard?

Could this be repaired?

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Unfortunately the battery indicator is not perfect yet in Padfone.

It was surprisingly 100%-100% for my one after the overnight sleep in "airplane mode", but immediately was changed to 97%-100% after reboot.

I don't have too much experience with energy consumption in 3G network (I didn't install yet a simcard to my Padfone) but it definitely drains quite fast if turned on.
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Was it open when fell down?

Good luck with fixing this...
[Android General] raylander:
If you got a high sleeper, this will be acceptable. ;)

Otherwise I am a little bit astonished how fragile this phone seems to be.

Anyways - You got my deepest sympathy. :crying:
[Android General] SparkyRih:
it was in netbook mode opened, phone inside, door closed... but like I said, I don't think I can fix this... it's stil very well closed, it only has like 1mm movmentspace on the left side where it broke...
[Android General] PuntoG:
I'm so glad I read all the pages before I posted a question on how to backup the root. Thanks Mr. Clark. I own a sexy little computer electronics store so sometimes I get really busy and don't research things as thoroughly as I should. So if one day I have a brain spas and ask a "rare" stupid question, please don't flame this little Geeky lady... :angel:

Now, I'm trying to find if there is a CWM available for my new baby because I'd like to do a full Nandroid backup before all the custom ROM chefs have me flashing every week like they did with the Motorola Atrix 4G. I think I briefly saw a reference to it somewhere a few days ago but can't remember.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
No it's just a normal height bed :P
[Android General] Peter_Nik:
Well, perhaps you have a local gravity anomaly under your bed :laugh:
[Android General] PuntoG:
I was outside of my store today having a smoke and talking on my "pen." A customer came up and asked me that exact question. Another customer peeked into my office yesterday while I was talking on my "pen." He didn't say anything to me but slowly leaned back out and asked my cashier if I was alright. When she asked him why he was asking, he said because your boss is sitting at her desk holding a pen up to her ear and talking to herself. LOL!!!

I gotta say, I'm loving this damned thing. I thought I was cool with the Atrix and it's dock and other toys. Now, I think I'm the coolest GirlGeek in the world. If anyone tells me otherwise, they're gonna have a fight on their hands.

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OHHHHH NOOOOOO!!! :crying:
[Android General] cty.stuart:
we all are unique :D
[Android General] SparkyRih:
That's awesome! XD That's a great Padfone Storie :P

oh yes....

I mailed asus... see if they can send me a new door... like I said it's still very well shut, but it's gonna annoy me for a long time :P