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[Android General] olly230:
I'm getting keyboard lag. Only after the update though...

Thought it might be SMART keyboard pro but apparently it isn't.

Needed to disable all other keyboards to get it to stay as the active keyboard when switching between phone and station.

A recent thing is the screen being unresponsive on the lock screen. Need to press the top button on and off to get it to work. Yup mine gets a warm spot as well.

Looking at the task screen, it seems to load stuff in the background all the time.

Google talk, the tutorial, some Asus Alps.

As some one said it all seems like software.

32gb Pad, station, spare battery, separate charger and stylus bought over the counter in Taiwan for 540gbp.

Plays 720p YouTube bids flawlessly, but can't do BBC HD iplayer.
[Android General] Steven82:
well I'm confused, is this going to be the LTE/4G version? what's the point in releasing the current version if the 4G version is being released a month later? :confused:
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
As far as I'm aware, apart from a test system in London, there are no LTG/4G networks in the UK, so not a problem over here.

That article says "summer", not "August", but as long as it's not next week or so, I'm still happy with getting it from Taiwan...
[Android General] KingsnakeW:
@lunarken

Settings -> Asus Customised Setting -> Performance -> System performance

Default setting is "balanced".
[Android General] SparkyRih:
About the screen not responding at the lock screen...

My padfone has never ahd that, my TF101 on the other hand has this issue sometimes... so it probably is some Android software bug or something..
[Android General] Someone09:
Where did you guys get that info about the LTE version (Padfone 2?) being released later this year from?

I think I missed that part.
[Android General] Steven82:
Ah yes - lists the infinity as coming in august. but to be honest - July/August, there's only 1-2 months in it.

I've been told 4G will be here end of August (although I can't reveal sources), all I have been told is the provider and date.

Asus revealed at MWC back in February(?) that the LTE/4G version will be out in september. It's exactly same spec only with the LTE/4G enabled processor.
[Android General] Someone09:
Ah, now I found it. ;)

Most of the articles say "in 3rd quarter 2012 the earliest". Considering the Padfone (1) should have been available since what? 3 months now?

Well, do the math. ;)

Especially, if they keep the S4 for the Padfone 2.
[Android General] Steven82:
well it was originally slated for christmas. So I'm wondering how old the S4 technology is now. Even though the OneX was one of the first and recently released, if they were able to pen for last year, it must have been a while, and 9 months from that date would sound typical of asus. (not stupidly close, but still really close all the same)

In the videos from MWC they stated september, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the case, the original got held back from christmas last year and if Qualcom aren't the problem, I can't see too much of a delay (maybe october actual availability?)
[Android General] aeon101:
Thanks a lot for so far most detailed issues summary. What do you mean by weak WiFi? In comparison with what? Home or public router? Otherway wifi holds ok while in use? No problems with WEP? Is there an automatic wifi connection when available?

Thanks!
[Android General] cty.stuart:
i think he just means unstable. i experience that as well. hopefully the next ota will sort it out
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
That's not quite correct. The blue color signals a connection to Google's services (for push messages, GTalk etc.). That could be either problems on Google's side (rare) or something went wrong with the last connection attempt. You could also open Google Talk, which will in turn try to reestablish connection. Still all the while you might have workable internet access.

That's not great but by now I am quite well stocked with USB chargers anyway. ;)
[Android General] MobiCity UK:
Stock Update

Hi Mr.Clark,

Having caught sight of your post a few days ago, I thought you might appreciate this update. You may be pleased to know that our latest stock of the ASUS Padfone also comes with a keyboard. Our website has been updated to include this, but the price has not been altered. We've sent you a private message with the details, so feel free to get in touch should you still be interested.

Regards,

MobiCity UK
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Rats!

Too late for me (despatched yesterday, apparently), but hopefully it'll assist others.

As per my PM reply - is this the UK keyboard, or is the whole unit just a straight Taiwanese import, complete with Chinese-character keyboard?

And will you be selling the keyboard separately? I'll need one of those once the main Padstation arrives, but am waiting for a purely British one.
[Android General] Someone09:
I dont suppose it also comes with the Bluetooth stylus or does it?
[Android General] lunarken:
found it, but which mode is better? i changed to batt saving mode.... or Performance is better?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I have my padfon for about 4 days now, used it a lot, from the beginning it's on performence mode, and I haven't been able to drain all 3 batteries XD
[Android General] MobiCity UK:
It comes with the US keyboard, so there are one or two minor differences (for example, there's no £ symbol on the 3). It is still a qwerty keyboard though. We aren't selling these separately yet, but will happily PM you if this changes over the next few days.

Unfortunately not, but we have plans to sell these separately within the next few days.
[Android General] KingsnakeW:
Mine is on Performance mode.
[Android General] lunarken:
4 days n u havent charge since?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
No, I charge every night...
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Yuck. No thanks. ;)

I'll wait for an official UK one :)
[Android General] Steven82:
agreed, no uk keyboard is killer, if you make the price drop without the keyboard I'd consider it. but:

32gb version with stylus for £572 (£672 including import duty)

is tempting.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
why would it kill? you can change the keyboard layout to UK english and you still get £ sign any way... the only difference is you don't see the £ sign physically on the keyboard. but is it that hard to remember shift+3 = £?
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
And the @ sign is on the 2 key and " is on the ' key. Stuff like that.

It's just annoying and since I'm assuming the dock will cost the better part of £100, I want it to be regionally correct.

Maybe we're just being fussy, but it's our money, we can be as fussy as we like with it ;)
[Android General] Steven82:
actually no that's a misconception, changing the layout to UK, moves @ " # £ due to the structure of US layout. I can't remember if it's exactly the @ symbol, but I owned a US keyboard and as a coder I want my keys where I expect them to be. it may just be 4 keys but I was surprised with the amount of times I used them, and it's more bogus when I have to explain to people why they are in the wrong order in the first place.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
well.. for myself, i use those keys just as much as well. i am quite comfortable finding where the keys have moved once they swtich. i guess typing more just help you to get used to the keys. once u know where exactly they are, you can ignore whats printed physically on the keyboard :)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
You can give my a keyboard wth all blank keys and I know exactly where every single key is... I never look at the keyboard when typing or coding ;P

And I kinda like the chinese characters on my Padfone, it ads something special :D
[Android General] cty.stuart:
yepsolutely.... money talks :D
[Android General] cty.stuart:
yes!!! for some reason... i think its kinda cooollllll lol...
[Android General] olly230:
is the padfone class 10 SD card compliant?

My mate 'taxed' me the SD card when he got it for me.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
yes. supported...
[Android General] Steven82:
£609 with station (although 16gb version and no stylus/keyboard :p)

or £599 from here

also asus italy have given release date there and price tag of 699 euros for 32gb version with tablet station (£561 inc vat)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Why was the stylus included in Taiwan? Because it seems that it's actually a separate accessory?
[Android General] Steven82:
promotional offer I think
[Android General] oroo708:
hey,

when you open your padfone fully while it was attach to the keyboard, does it fall over?

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Agree with that, if not mistaken it should be a promotions offer, I got my stylus for free buying my padfone in Singapore. They're giving the first 10 for free there.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I'm starting to think that my purchase from Taiwan including the taxes that I had to pay is not far away from the price which this full package will cost when it's released here in The Netherlands (or any other country next to us)....
[Android General] cty.stuart:
you can buy almost everything seperately in taiwan. phone, tablet, dock, stylus, leather sleeve are sold seperately. The whole set including 2 years warranty originally from the telco that liase with ASUS taiwan is 28901 TWD :)
[Android General] oroo708:
agree
[Android General] SparkyRih:
2 year warranty? My seller sais 1 year Taiwan warranty on the site....
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Is that the 16GB version though? Everywhere I've seen that isn't Taiwanese via ebay seems to be the 16GB version, and the Taiwan version is 32GB.

In case that's important...
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I have the 32GB version...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
i was informed of 2 years from Shen Nao co. the telco...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
sorry. mistake. everything is 1 year except battery for 6 months
[Android General] pgunning1:
Hi all,

Very interested in one of these have an asus transformer TF101 and its my primary laptop at the moment.

Is there a big speed increase in comparison to the padfone docked ? are there many issues (bugs) still outstanding ie. weak wifi signal etc or have updates made it a useable machine, as when asus release ics for the tf101 it almost killed mine :mad: but it is now once again useable.

I havent seen many car docks for the phone itself other than the generic clam type that fit any phone or a decent case for the phone itself are there any out there ie otter box or shell type ones that fit even if from another phone ie. LG 3d optimus ?

An most importantly is there a bedside dock/multimedia hub for this phone in development as I'm not sure I want a a massive laptop screen staring at me all night long telling me the time and current weather. I know it has HDMI are there any docks out there that fit already ie Moto droid 3 or the above LG for watching the iplayer on the tv.

Any info on the above would be great.

ATB
[Android General] commensal:
I'm suprised to see that price in taiwan are not really cheaper than future price in Europe when the Padfone will be avalaible regarding the exchange rate between € and TW$. There is not so much difference between one seller to another on ebay. They certainly mantain their price until the Padfone is released in Europe and then the price will decrease significantly...
[Android General] Someone09:
Btw, anyone tried if Voodoo Sound is working on the Padfone? I suppose it´s not?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Speed:

IMO, there is NO speed difference at all comparing the phone docked, or not docked.

I also notice that my padfone runs smoother than my overclocked TF101...

Car mounts... probably not specific for the padfone (yet).

The only docking accessory anounced for now is the Docking Monitor.

I agree with you (and with us there are many others) that Asus should make just a dock to dock the phone to charge, and connect it to your existing TV.
[Android General] olly230:
Dingeon defenders - has anyone got it work.

Reloaded and it plays opening cartoon then loading screen with game tips is as far as i get. CTD
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Raging Thunder (1 and 2) also not working...

And the Subsonic app also closes (without any error) when I try to go to settings...

These are the only apps which don't work on my Padfone...

Even GTA III is running pretty well, since it's made for Targe specific devices I'm surprised :)
[Android General] pgunning1:
Hi thanks for the reply SparkyRih, I have the lg 3d & moto droid 3 which both have hdmi/power together, if someone could let me know where abouts in mm's the ports are & which end they are measuring from (as moto & lg are opposite ends to each other) i'll see if the ports will fit either of these two docks.

atb
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I don't think it will fit...
[Android General] oroo708:
has anyone tried connect with any joystick??
[Android General] lunarken:
Can the mobs create a section for this fone?

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Anyone managed to installed street fighter 4?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I created a forum on my server, but I agree that XDA should have a forum....
[Android General] Someone09:
Isn´t there a thread on here somewhere where you can propose new subforums?

Today, I spoke/chated with one of the guys over at mobi-city and asked him when the full package including the stylus will be available.

Looks like there is no "official" release date, yet. But he told me they are planning on selling the stylus seperately for around 80-90€.

So, I guess as soon as I got my Paypal set up I will order the the phone+station+keyboard package.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Did any-one notice the difference of sound quality when recording a video? When the phone is docked, the quality of the sound is pretty bad compared to rocording with the phone while it's not docked...
[Android General] Someone09:
Not really a surprise or is it? Or does the dock have a mic, too?
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I guess it has.... You should be able to make calls without the stylus, and the phone docked on speaker right?

Ed5t+ It does seem to have it's own mic, my voice is pretty clear when I speak...
[Android General] Someone09:
But where? On the front or on the back?

If it´s on the front it would have been a surprise if you didn´t notice any difference in sound.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Found it :P it's a tiny hole on the lower right side of the station...
[Android General] ScratchyScratchy:
Making calls and receiving texts.

Hi, I'm looking at buying the ASUS Padfone, but I'm a little confused about this issue. I see a few of you guys already have one, so I was wondering if anyone can help me out with one or two things. I'd be eternally grateful :D

1. When the phone is docked, can you actually make and receive calls through the station's speaker? I know you can receive calls if you have the bluetooth stylus, but can you do so without?

2. Do text messages work as normal when the phone is docked in the station?

3. Can I use any old bluetooth headset to make and receive calls when the phone is docked? Or does it only work with their special stylus?

Apologies for firing off questions, but I haven't been able to find any definitive answers, and would like confirmation that the phone element of the Padfone is still functional when the product is in its tablet form.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
As you can read in my previous post, I found the mic on the station, and it sounds pretty well (when using it to speak, for instance with regular phone calls or skype)...

Text messaging works even bennter (since I have he keyboard with physical buttons :P)... And also whatsapp works, only that app is not optimized for a tablet display...

Your third question is yes, you can just pair any bluetooth device you want, to do whateverr t's designed for...
[Android General] cty.stuart:
yep. you can call even when it's docked. there is loudspeaker and microphone on the padstation. Alternatively, if you choose to use a earphone, it is possible as well. the bluetooth stylus is just a bonus. yes you can also use any bluetooth headset you have.

yes. when it is in tablet mode, everything will work just like in phone mode
[Android General] ScratchyScratchy:
Ah cheers. You both have my thanks. In life and in XDA button clicks :D
[Android General] exitido:
Anyone know if the padfone station have a wifi antenna better than the padfone, or its only a screen + battery?

My english its a ****, i know it.
[Android General] cty.stuart:
lol. get the padfone fast, before it runs out :)
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I don't know, but I haven't had any issues regarding signal strength (yet)...

And the phone has been connected to several routers and hotspots at serveral locations...
[Android General] Wolfram1:
According to mobilesyrup:

"The Docking Station has a 6600mAh battery and antennas for GPS, phone and WiFi"
[Android General] jlyne1234:
I've never got it to work on any device i've owned so not surprising lol
[Android General] Steven82:
just so you know Simply Electronics are now doing it £89 cheaper than mobi-city with US keyboard.

But I assume these 2 are not official UK sell agreements (non wholesale purchases) as UK release date hasn't been confirmed yet, thus I expect it to go even lower.
[Android General] Cyman:
don't know if accurate

Yes these are US-Dollars. But what I did is: I translated the chinese website with Google translator and then I calculated the Yuan-Prices into Dollar-Prices. So I don't know if anywhere in this process a mistake happened;)
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Just calculating the exchange rate does never work, there are a lot of other influences on the price in other regions. For example in Germany we have to pay the GEMA (the music industry's blackmail department) 16-36 Euro for each device, depending on the flash drive size.
[Android General] Cyman:
that's why I wrote: "in Taiwan it costs"...I know this fee, we do also have this one here in Switzerland;)
[Android General] Justin^Tan:
err. 1st of all its 617, not 517

while the 925 is quite correct for all the bundle, the 617 is the phone itself based on the translation i get

Purchase program

PadFone	PadFone + PadFone +

flat + flat +

phone pen	Phone T +

holster

Suggested retail price	17,990	26,980	28,270

Heart Price	17,990	24,980	25,901

Keyboard base plus No	27,980	28,901

purchase price

Its on TWD (Taiwanese Dollar)

or you can see my edited post above you for a rough calculation

for Heart Price I think its a Promotional Price

Flat is the Pad Station / Pad Dock whatever you call it

Phone T = Phone Pen

Holster = All in one case, which designed for padfone, pad station and phone pen (there's a place to put the pen on the edge of the case)

you can see the pic on facebook Asus Taiwan
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
That's still pretty good. I know we get gouged on prices in the UK, but the cheaper it is up front, the cheaper it'll be after rip-off Britain gets to it.

I'm getting:

27,980.00 TWD	=	596.611 GBP for the all-in package, which is fantastic.

24,980.00 TWD	=	532.673 GBP for the "heart" price without the keyboard dock (some pre-order offer, maybe?)

26,980.00 TWD	=	575.321 GBP or the default no-keyboard price

If I'm doing it right, it looks like they're pushing quite hard for the keyboard dock, as it's not a huge amount more with it. (1000 TWD)
[Android General] hugues42:
release date world?

Nothing about release dates?

In special for europe... Germany ??:)
[Android General] blgblade:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/05/asus-padfone-priced-and-ready-for-pre-order-in-taiwan-tomorrow/
[Android General] Cyman:
pre-order

Okay, now it's officialy, thanks for the link. So the pre-order process starts tomorrow in Taiwan. The big question: Is there any retailer, any possibility to order one from Taiwan? Does anyone know something?
[Android General] patrick_spd4u:
So far, I already found 3 weakness of the Padfone:

- Weight -- over 800g when the phone in the pad!

- PenTile -- Although the phone has qHD resolution, but it is Super AMOLED, not Super AMOLED Plus. I think it will use PenTile display, don't expect HTC Sensation-like sharpness, I think it will be like the GALAXY S II or the LG Optimus 2X.

- Graphics -- Based on the benchmarks so far, the S4 graphics power is on the Tegra 2-level. It may be enough to drive the qHD screen on the phone, but I think it can't drive the tablet/station screen, especially in 2-3 years from now, when even phones will have a Tegra 3.

About the pricing, the saving is already noticable. If you want a phone+tablet solution from Samsung, you have to buy the GALAXY S II + GALAXY Tab 10.1 3G, costing more than $1200. If you want the Apple solution, you even have to shell out almost $2000 for the iPhone 4S + iPad 2 3G. These are unlocked prices, don't compare the carrier prices since carrier already subsidize prices (and charge you another tablet plan).

But, knowing the $200 Nexus tablet will be released soon, I think I have to think twice before buying the Padfone.
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
Sure, but you got to make compromises with that concept. You can't have this kind of flexibility with the smallest and lightest of tablets. As a phone alone, it is as slim and light as other devices.

Yes, it isn't the sharpest technology available today. But right now I have a Galaxy S, and that one has PenTile in even lower resolution and I don't consider it ugly, far from it. Back then, that kind of resolution was high end, nowadays, you could say mid-range.

The same goes for the tablet part! 1280 by 800 at 10" was state of the art with the Xoom, but we are in the days of that resolution at 7" and iPad3 and Asus Transformer Infinity. Still quite usable, though.

Here I can't agree at all. I don't know your sources, but everything I read indicated that the Adreno 225 has only one superior right now, and that isn't even Tegra 3 but PowerVR 544. To be fully comparable, you need two devices with the same resolution, which we will soon have I am sure. The HTC One X should feature both Snapdragon S4 and Tegra 3, depending on country and carrier. You will see, in certain multi-threaded CPU-bound scenarios, the Tegra 3 will win. In everything else (graphics and calculations less suitable / optimized for multicore) the S4 will have the upper hand.

Erm... the HTC One X is sitting on the shelves right now where I live.

We don't know anything for certain yet with the Google Tab, we don't even know the local price for the Padfone yet. Too early to draw conclusions. Besides, iPhone plus iPad doesn't cost two grand, rather around 1200 to 1600, depending on the storage options.
[Android General] patrick_spd4u:
I used a Captivate (a GALAXY S phone too) for more than 1 year, and I would say, the PenTile 'takes' some pixel, making it just a bit better than non-PenTile HVGA screen. Especially when I compare with my friend's GALAXY S II or Sensation, it is much harder to browse desktop websites without constant scrolling & zooming. I don't need 720p on my phone (wondering who will use the screen that close from their eyes to take advantage of the 720p resolution), but I think 4.3" deserves a non-PenTile qHD resolution, just like the Sensation.

Don't forget qHD use more resources than WVGA, and PenTile make it appears comparable with WVGA.

If they want that level of sharpness, why don't use WVGA non-PenTile screen?

So far, I think 1280x800 seems to be enough if it is not PenTile. Never use an 10" tablet though

Sorry for my assumption. I thought the S4 is not that powerful.

I mean.. when most phones will have Tegra 3, and many app/games will take advantage of the Tegra 3 graphics power.

Sorry for my calculation. iPad 2 3G is around $800 in my country, and iPhone 4S is around $900. Still too far from $2000 though.

I assumed that announced Padfone price will be used worldwide. Expect some adjustment but it won't be more than 10%.