yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
Let me explain it differently.

Try this: in docking station mode (i.e. tab and using any software keyboard, such as the Asus keyboard) press CTRL+SHIFT. Correct: there is no CTRL key on software keyboards. In fact, the software keyboard won't even display on the screen when docked with the keyboard.

When I dock with the keyboard, a software keyboard is still running and the hardware keyboard keys don't match the software keyboard keys. It's a bit like trying to type symbol using a US keyboard when your system in set for a UK keyboard. So, pressing the CTRL+SHIFT keys on the docking keyboard whilst a software keyboard is still running has no effect because CTRL doesn't exist of the software keyboard.

It's not like changing a language ON THE SAME KEYBOARD, it's actually changing keyboard software.
[Android General] creed555:
Aboute Padfone 2...as I understand, the Padfone 2 will be announced on october 16th and we can expect it in stores in fourth quarter of 2013. So a year from now.

Source:

phonearena.com/news/Asus-will-return-to-smartphones-big-in-2013-Asus-Padfone-2-coming-in-Q4-2013_id33887

Bye
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Whilst I like the idea of not feeling obsolete for a year, I hope they'll update the hardware before they start production, otherwise it'll effectively be a year out of date as soon as it rolls off the line.

On an unrelated note, the last OTA has fixed my WiFi not reconnecting issues, so if any ASUS guys are reading this thread, thanks for that! :)

Next up, Jelly Bean please? ;)
[Android General] KingsnakeW:
The hardware configuration for Padfone 2 does not make me feel too bad about buying Padfone 1 even now, but in an year will be just average. Maybe there are other surprises. Anyhow, why don't they learn from Apple? Or from this year's experience. Announce it when you are ready to release it.
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
Surely they mean the last quarter of 2012...
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
That plan only works when you have literally millions of people who will buy whatever you crap out simply because it has your logo on it.

I don't think ASUS are there yet. I certainly didn't buy the Padfone because it's ASUS. I bought it because it's the device I wanted.
[Android General] KuliX:
& 1
[Android General] basketor:
That news is outdated.

At first we heard about q4 2012 but people believed it was an error since padfone 1 was released in europe just a few week ago, and spontaneously corrected to q4 2013.

But.

We already know that the first padfone was delayed a lot only because Qualcom had problems delivering Snapdragon S4 cpu in time to Asus.

And since :

- I saw Asus forums already have a Padfone 2 section

- we learned the padfone 2 really exists with glbenchmark and antutu bench marks leaks of a Padfone 2 running ICS

- the padfone 2 will be officially annouced the 16th october.

- the full specs coming from a box.

- the specs matchs the specs of a phone LG will release around november (Snapdragon S4 Pro)

I don't see a reason it would come out Q4 next year.

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I have read somewhere that padfone 2 will be inserted vertically.

If asus does it well then maybe when docked it could reuse the front caméra, the proximity sensor, the light sensor, the audio jack.

I realised an issue if the phone is vertical.

It means you will have to put the tab in portrait mode if you want landscape pictures, and vice versa.

Maybe here the 13mpx caméra can help to still allow 8mpx landscape pictures even when the phone is in portrait position ? :confused:
[Android General] KingsnakeW:
And how is this in contradiction ? It is better that the device you want to be available right away or soon enough, isn't it? Otherwise soon you will be distracted by other products you want. This was my point. For example the buzz about Padfone vanished before the product was available in most of the countries.
[Android General] starrwulfe:
...holding out hope that those pentaband 3G specs aren't faked... ...because if its true... ...there's only one other Android phone that has that spec....

...and it's a NEXUS....

A Nexus branded, Google approved Padfone would be bought IMMEDIATELY by me.

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Ummm... you know, that could be fixed with the camera software automatically knowing it's docked so it can orient the picture to the tablet's orientation...

o_O
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
I likely wouldn't upgrade to the Padfone 2 if it came out this year.

The exception to that would be if it was a Nexus. I can't see it, personally (Nexus are "stock" devices, I can't see them doing a phone/tablet/netbook all-in-one device until and unless the form factor proves itself), but I'd ebay my current one in a heartbeat to get a Nexus Padfone.
[Android General] basketor:
lol

not when you are taking the picture ...
[Android General] lospo:
noway, right now i prefeer china based tablet...
[Android General] TNTPOP:
Has anyone else had battery issues with the latest update (aka 9.20.2.21)? Looks like a radio issue to me because GSM standby drains 32% alone and I can't hold a day at work.

Padfone fw: CHT_PadFone-9.20.2.21_CHT_9.4.2-0

PadFone Station : Yes

PadFone Dock : No

Stylus headset : Yes
[Android General] SparkyRih:
CHT_PadFone-9.20.2.21_CHT_9.4.2-0, that firmware version doesn't exist as far as I know :P
[Android General] dtorga:
Just Download cpu spy and check what is draining your battery
[Android General] basketor:
There are packages with the phone and the tab sold separatly.

It's not like if you are forced to buy the docks, and the phone alone is still nice.
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
True, but I wanted the dock and the phone (and the keyboard, still waiting for UK one *grumblegrumble*)
[Android General] olly230:
I can get one bought back from taiwan mid june so no biggy.
[Android General] Kozato:
I think we should talk about global release only when it becomes readily available in Taiwan. It was delayed from 20th April to 11th/14th May and now to 31st May. I am hoping the Padfone doesn't get delayed beyond the 31st.
[Android General] Steven82:
does anyone know if qualcom has even bothered upping their production on the s4 chip? that's the real question.
[Android General] brunes:
North American version

Does anyone know if Asus ever plans to release a North American version ( 850 band WCDMA ) of this device? I would order one today if it had the 850 band, it's a deal killer.
[Android General] jlyne1234:
I preordered one from Taiwan and it got dispatched on 7th may. Then again that was a preorder so i guess they're trying to catch up on those before releasing it? :confused:
[Android General] Marlinn:
It's TSMC producing them, and they are kinda screwing up the production of chips lately :(
[Android General] Kozato:
From what I know pre-orders will be dispatch in batches. So far there's the 11th May and 14th/16th May batch.

Where did you pre-order it from? I am hoping that my pre-order set from 7-11 set will be dispatched today.

Regarding the Qualcomm side, its TSMC that's having yield problems. They have too many clients for their 28nm manufacturing process, there's Intel, AMD and Nvidia. Not to forget that most of the Snapdragon S4 chips are allocated to Samsung and HTC.
[Android General] good4y0u:
DO NOT PRE ORDER!!! Wait a month or 3 !!!! Or you'll get stuck like my prime and I!!!! And always! Take pictures before RMA ING
[Android General] silkshadow:
Thanks man. What you say about Singapore makes sense but are you speculating or has this price been released already? I ask because this is what people speculate about a lot of phones in Singapore. Sometimes its correct but sometimes its released at lower than even the HK price.

I appreciate the offer, thanks! However, truth is I was expecting to actually have the Padfone by now. :( By mid June I will also have to return to Taiwan. However I will be in HK in early June and Singapore in about 10 days, so hopefully it will be in either of those place before I return to Taiwan (thinking positive) :).

Edit: @ianwardell, what you refer to there is the gadget early adopter's penalty, a sad event of the modern market. I have been bitten by that curse many times before, going all the way back to the Tapwave Zodiac. As long as you are aware of the potential for bugs, I see no reason to worry about it. Your Prime's problem was the GPS, right? While a huge PIA, not really a operationally breaking problem for a tablet early adopter, I mean gadget freaks already have GPS in their phones and car at least.

Every time I run into this early adopter penalty, I hate it, but its never such a big problem that I cannot use the device, just loose out on a big function of it for a while and the company will either fix it or offer a replacement every time I ran into it (though it sometimes takes a big fight with them). As long as you know this can happen and are braced for it, I think its ok to chance it. Buyer beware, I guess.
[Android General] jlyne1234:
Ordered it way back on April 14th. Its been in the UK a while now but customs seem determined to make me wait. Apparently it takes 5 days to open a box.
[Android General] olly230:
what was the cost door to door?
[Android General] Steven82:
where did you order it from?
[Android General] jlyne1234:
Off ebay with a best offer, £600 in all. It's finally through customs too. May get it tomorrow :)
[Android General] olly230:
(with the keyboard and stylus that's a really good price!!!)

Let us know how it is. (i'll be getting the Taiwan release model as wellwhen my mate gets back)
[Android General] Steven82:
you trust ebay??
[Android General] thorpe_lawrence:
Interesting

Looks pretty cool. Seen some videos of it.
[Android General] olly230:
I'm getting one picked up from Taiwan by a mate popping home for a few weeks
[Android General] Marlinn:
The international sellers are trustworthy, but always check how much feedback they've gotten.. (I wouldn't buy stuff thats €100+ on ebay tho)

Ebay is kinda handy for screenprotectors, phone protectors's etc are hella expensive here (€20+ :eek:), while they are only 1-2$ on ebay, with free shipping :D. Only downside is that it'll take up to 12 days to arrive..

http://www.hardwarezone.com.ph/review-asus-padfone-new-breed-hybrid

New Padfone review, including a batterylife test (only the phone though) which shows a very nice result :)
[Android General] silkshadow:
This seems to be a Filipino site, yet I have never heard of it. I wonder how to contact them and find out how they got a Padfone and if I can buy one that way too :D.

Nice review, everything is positive except for the one negative:

Its too bad. I know many people to whom this would be a deal breaker (not me). Asus had almost 2 years to work on and improve the form factor, if they used the time to actually do it, this would be a home run device. As it is I am worried about the DOA comments that are floating around the net about this device.

Wish they would find a way to release it already before the DOA buzz becomes the established word on this device, which would become a self fulfilling prophecy. :(
[Android General] Marlinn:
I've never had a tablet or ultrabook/netbook, so I don't really know what to expect with 1,5 kilo's but yeah, thats why we go to the gym right? :D
[Android General] Xyphoid:
What's the use of the pad only section in the app list when you can't even find tablet apps in Google Play, let alone install them?

I'm using my TF101 now to install tablet apps. Then I make a backup of the app, which I restore on my Padfone.
[Android General] Someone09:
you might still be able to get some apps elsewhere and install them.

And I am talking about developers sites here.
[Android General] basketor:
on the padfone 1 there is a micro sd port listed

here on the supposed padfone 2 box there is not ! :mad:

That would be a hint that it is a Nexus device, and now I just regret that ...

I bough the Nexus 7 because it was cheap, but I would never buy a 700€ device that would be my main device with just 16g of memory

even with 32 that's not enough when you know micro sd memory is so cheap now
[Android General] oroo708:
use only internal memory?
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
In case anyone hasn't seen, the USSD Exploit affects the Padfone's default dialler.

What this means is that just by going to a website (tested by me in Chrome, but I believe it happens in the default browser as well), your phone can be told to do things using USSD codes, including, potentially, a full wipe. I don't know what codes the Padfone supports, and that in itself is enough to scare me.

Test it by going here: http://dylanreeve.com/phone.php

If your phone shows the IMEI, you are vulnerable. If it goes to a dialler showing *#06# then you are safe.

Solution, for the moment, is to change dialler. I'm using Dialer2, but there are others.
[Android General] feeta:
Thanks very much for pointing that out!
[Android General] oroo708:
I think this is the one that was caught on touchWiz, guess mine was vulnerable. :crying:
[Android General] phoxy84:
Mine too, u can use TelStop https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mulliner.telstop
[Android General] titimoby:
I have a Padfone only since last week but it feel strange to loose so much battery each night.

I had a look with Better Battery stats and it looks like the Deep Sleep state is never used...
[Android General] HelsinkiSisu:
Thanks, I passed this on to the Padfone forum and raised a ticket with Asus.
[Android General] Xyphoid:
I got another answer:

Thanks for your reply.Could you tell me what the use is of the "Pad only" section in the apps list? I can install tablet apps on my TF101 and make a backup, which I restore on my Padfone, but I am selling my TF101, so that won't be an option anymore.I can only get tablet apps when I download the apk from torrents, because I can't see them in Google Play. This is not what I want, because I am willing to pay for tablet apps via Google Play (so I can get updates for the apps).A third option for me is to root the Padfone and change the build.prop, but rooting is also something I don't want to do. Is there gonna be an update for the firmware in which the Padfone is seen as a tablet when it's inside the Pad? Kind regards,

Answer:

We have shared your concerns to our headquarters. It seems that more people would like to have these possibilities and we can't blame them. Hopefully Asus will be able to create a firmware update on short notice which will add this function.

At this moment we cannot make any promises yet.

We hope to have informed you enough.

Best regards,

Asus TSD
[Android General] SparkyRih:
.........

We already knew that.........
[Android General] jackennils:
Someone still there?
[Android General] feeta:
Yep, I'm here!
[Android General] jackennils:
:good:
[Android General] Someone09:
Just to post anything at all on this topic:

Except for the Padfone and the original Transformer, every other Asus device has gotten the JB update (or is currently getting it).

So, I hope Padfone will be next. ;)
[Android General] jackennils:
Well we know that it will get JB in Q4. ;)
[Android General] Someone09:
We know Asus announced JB for the Padfone will come in Q4.

From my experience, there´s a big difference between Asus announcing something and it actually happening. ;)
[Android General] jackennils:
OK, that's a good point.
[Android General] dtorga:
Dear Santa Claus,

I would like aokp JB or cm10 ported to padfone as a xmas present:)

thank you
[Android General] SparkyRih:
I think they will release the PF2 with JB before the JB for PF1 (which is set for late December)...
[Android General] kelvin.lohbh:
I hope I'm able to retain my root after upgrade to JB.

If not, I rather retain my current OS.
[Android General] Someone09:
Looks like the WW version received an update today. Dont know which one though,

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It is 9.20.4.22_WW_9.42
[Android General] k3iroll:
Just wondering is anybody updated to 4.1 from 4.0.4 and retained the root using voodoo ? My phone downloaded OTA today, and I guess it's for the 4.1 updates. Haven't got the guts to update it, cause I'm afraid of losing the root access.
[Android General] MrE99:
dont worry

Don´t worry. Its not the JB update so you wont loose your root if you use Voodoo OTA. I´ve installed the update and i didn´t loose my root. What i noticed was that my phone runned faster and smother after the update and that they haved made some updates to the task manager
[Android General] 3mL:
Ugh I failed the OTA again and now it's gone.

How do I fix that?
[Android General] k3iroll:
I failed too. Because I accidentally un-installed a file "com.asus.facebookposter". hence, the installation was aborted. Anybody here kind enough to send me the above file in titanium backup so that I can restore it. Many thanks.
[Android General] Someone09:
depends on. Did you delete any system app?

If not you can the Update package from the padfone club.
[Android General] oroo708:
too bad mine are SG, there's no com.asus.facebookposter.

TIPS:always keep a system backup after OTA..do this command with adb:

adb pull /system/
[Android General] k3iroll:
Thanks for the tip. I'll make sure to do that from now on. I'm using WW ... hopefully somebody with WW is kind enough to send me the "com.asus.facebookposter" TB file.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Thanks to you :) http://www.padfoneclub.com/pl/content/content.php?content.15
[Android General] phoxy84:
Clear cache from asus firmware update and dmclient
[Android General] oroo708:
or u could just pull out the apk from the previous firmware update u're using..it's somewhere inside the zip file..
[Android General] jackennils:
Changelog Version V9.20.4.22
[Android General] k3iroll:
Yep. That's what I did. Totally forgot about it. Thanks for help.
[Android General] Philips9:
Hello, I have a question:

I have an Asus Padfone(brand TIM), build: 9.18.8.39_TIM and I want to upgrade manually to android 4.0.4.

What is the procedure?

I download directly the last firmware Version V9.20.4.22 from here: http://www.asus.it/Mobile/PadFone/#download, it works for Italy?

Why the firmware in asus site(http://www.asus.it/Mobile/PadFone/#download) is about 480mb and firmware from here(http://www.padfoneclub.com/pl/content/content.php?content.15) is about 114mb?

Finally if I upgrade manually, can I return to my actually and originally firmware(9.18.8.39_TIM) brand tim?

Can anyone help me?

thanks in advance
[Android General] Someone09:
http://www.padfoneclub.com/pl/content/content.php?content.15

The one you download is only an update file. Not the full version.

I guess so. By using the same procedure as above.
[Android General] Philips9:
Where I can find my original firmware(build: 9.18.8.39_TIM) brand TIM, if I want return to original firmware?

thx a lot

EDIT: so I download the full firmware(Version v.9.20.4.21 WWE), directly from http://www.asus.it/Mobile/PadFone/#download, right?
[Android General] tobi1449:
Finally the padfone arrived and I just found the first problem:

When I insert the padfone into the pad dock it vibrates and it just shows the spinning circle,

I just waited about 10 minutes and it didn't change. Also a forced reboot didn't help.

Does anyone have a clue how to solve this?
[Android General] Unknown_road:
just read dutch journalists are invited for the unveil of the padfone 2 in Milan on october the 16th so the padfone 2 will probably have a much broader release. :)

dutch article: nu.nl/gadgets/2926934/padfone-2-waarschijnlijk-nederland.html
[Android General] SparkyRih:
http://padfoneclub.com/news.php?extend.24
[Android General] Unknown_road:
I know but it seems to be another step in the good direction
[Android General] KingsnakeW:
This might happen when you don't push the phone all the way in. Try pushing it more.
[Android General] tobi1449:
I tried it multiple times (and I did it right) however it now works without problems every time

And I got the next problem, adb either insists that there are multiple devices or emulators running or it lists my device as offline

causing the rooting script to fail every time I try it (I'm currently at 9.18.8.34 if that matters, could an update to .41 help?)
[Android General] sjh93173:
prob with docking

Hi tobi49, i had a similar problem with the display of the tablet after docking earlier. I I rebooted ( restarted), the padrone n it works well with docking subsequently.
[Android General] Kermode:
I just hope they'll fix the terrible slow sluggish load of pages in the browser (and its not connection, HTC One S does it in a flash on the same connection, and benchmarks shows only a tiny processor difference)
[Android General] Dabbleh:
Love the idea, but most people already have a tablet, so they aren't going to buy a phone that makes their tablet null.

Gotta love ASUS though, awesome company.
[Android General] azavgz:
other experience?

..
[Android General] azavgz:
experience with this procedure?

Has anyone had the chance to test this procedure on a Padfone with 9.20.2.14?
[Android General] basketor:
many people don't have a tablet or even a smartphone at all
[Android General] PlanetJumble:
And when I look into the mirror, I can clearly see that all people are wearing glasses!
[Android General] Someone09:
Some news about the Padfone 2 (we don´t have an seperate topic for that, yet, or do we?):

http://www.tabletblog.de/2012/10/asus-padfone-2-sofort-nach-der-vorstellung-erhaltlich/

It´s in german but the main point is: Allegedly, it will be available shortly after next week´s presentation. Probably first in Italy.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Lke I said, it will probably released before the JB update of the PF1 (which is scheduled for late December)...

Let's wait... it's almost less than a week now untill the presentation...
[Android General] 3mL:
I think I bricked my Padfone real bad.

I was restoring some apps through TitaniumBackup and when I rebooted my phone to upgrade it through download mode it failed on AsusPadTutorial.apk.

When it booted all I get is "Unfortunately. Setup Wizard has stopped."

Tried factoryreset, upgrade full package & OTA with external SD.

Nothing works.
[Android General] oroo708:
can u get into recovery?? if u can it still not a brick, just flash a full FW not the update one..
[Android General] 3mL:
I tried but it fails on verification.
[Android General] samovog:
You probably have a bad .zip file to flash (happende to me). Just redownload the rom file and try again. Use a SD cardreader to copy the rom file to your SD card...

BTW: How far are we with the Clockworkmod recovery for the Padfone ?
[Android General] 3mL:
Well lookie there. Faulty .zip it was, mighty thanks!
[Android General] khoikn:
This device is killer.

Truly showing what a good design team can create on the Android platform.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Asus Poland says it will be released in December in their country: http://padfoneclub.com/news.php?extend.28
[Android General] oroo708:
well sorry to say, my work are temporary on hold, due to soo many work, assignment and test as I'm near to having our first sems exam..will see after that how things gonna look like...:fingers-crossed:
[Android General] zechrisd:
Do padfone will receive jelly bean ?
[Android General] samovog:
Well, thank you! Hope you pass and we get CWM :))
[Android General] SparkyRih:
http://www.padfoneclub.com/comment.php?comment.news.26
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
Does anyone have a hack to disable MTP? There is no logical reason it should want 5+ hours to transfer an 8GB file onto the SD card. I just want to mount it as a standard USB flash drive...
[Android General] basketor:
do mount command in a terminal to show the file system type

internal storage is maybe ext4 like on the Nexus 7
[Android General] Someone09:
Yeah, I know. That sucks!

Usually, when I need to copy files bigger than 2GB I use a card reader.
[Android General] Mr.Clark:
The internal storage may be, but the micro-SD card I just put in is formatted NTFS.
[Android General] SparkyRih:
Video footage of the Asus Padfone 2!