yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Some apps in the market will say if they are ready but the rest are trial and error.

Basically speaking with TB if it was backed up from this ROM it should restore fine. Coming from another ROM is what can cause trouble due to different ways GB handles apps and there supporting stuff.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
got my $3.99 speck case today, i'm stylin now

:cool:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Radio

Nils - Did everything you said (Cleared cache, dalvik, battery stats [charged to 100% powered off before doing that]), am on 11.9 radio; and am getting horriffic battery life. 60% toward screen, and the screen is off.

I will try flashing 2.1 over 2.1.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Also make sure you turn off sync for all the things you don't use
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ChansteR390:
Where did you get it for 3.99? lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
check out the verizon website..the link is in hte accessories section of the inc forums here...or if you're lazy like me lol just goto verizonwireless.com and search "incredible speck" and it comes up..have to be signed in to get it for 3.99
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Yup ... but ...

Nils - They are off (although HTC Facebook keeps turning itself on; and I do not run the Facebook app). This is a larger problem than user settings. Battery stats show 59% of the battery usage was "display." Tapping on "display" says it's time on is 24m and 25s. I can assure you that these numbers don't jibe on an extended battery.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
I gave up attempting to keep that from running I uninstalled it flicker and twitter peep and stocks apks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
ok, i love using facebook for htc sense so sync my contacs, but at the same time i HATE IT.

does anyone else have the problem where no matter what it's set to, it syncs 238948293 times a day? i have it set to ONCE PER DAY. cleraly states that i only want it to sync ONCE per day!!!!!!! despite this, the damn thing will sync randomly throughout the day whenever it feels like it. what the hell
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
I never thought to uninstall flickr or stocks, thanks for that. I always uninstall Peep and Teeter, and Facebook if the rom includes the app.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
??

... and you are uninstalling it how? I do not seek, for example, UNINSTALL under the Applications button under Setup for "Facebook for HTC". Are you freezing it under Titanium?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Select the app in Titanium Backup and choose "uninstall".
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Or delete it from the zip before you flash.

Clarification: this won't uninstall it, it will just prevent it from bring installed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
If there are applications you don't ever use it is OK to just remove them from the original ROM zip. Just use 7ip, open the archive and delete the apk's out of the /data/system.app/ folder. Just make a copy first incase you want to install them later by doing a flash without a wipe.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I am completely hooked on the 3D version so I added it to post 1.

Please try it and provide feedback so I can decide whether to continue building on it.

Runs good and has everything the regular ROM has with the exception of the Rosie mod for changing the right button.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
Yes definitely please continue building it! I prefer the 3D version as well. Especially with yours being so stable compared to others.

*If I have helped you, don't forget to hit the thanks button!*

-Sent from my Inc using Nil's Business Gingersense. Now that's Incredible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bikercr:
Love it. Would have stuck with it if the Sense widgets worked (People and email). Awaiting your further tweaks. Also, awaiting the 6 bar signal icon. You are the master!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I have it installed and the people and e-mail widgets work fine. This is a new version if you are basing your results off the one I posted earlier last week or the add on.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bikercr:
I downloaded the first page version early this morning. The widgets weren't present in my system after the flash. I didn't wipe. Just flashed over 2.1.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
The 3d version will not flash over the regular version since all the widgets are very different and conflict.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I am trying a new file sharing site and have included a mirror for the 3D ROM in post 1.

Would someone please try the mirror download and let me know what the experience is good, bad or indifferent.

Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Downloaded pretty fast ( 6-7 min ).

Like you said , 3D v2.2 really grows on you. Great Rom man !!!

Sent from my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks

Hovie has been great but I think I have out stayed my welcome on his site and since it is his business site I don't want to impact him.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Version 2.2 in post 1

See change log in post 2

If you choose to install the 3D Carousel version you MUST do a full wipe.

And remember with both versions if things lag a little first let it settle in and second use Spare Parts to speed up animations. And don't forget to turn of sync for anything you don't use.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Question

Just to be clear because the prior posts may be talking about 2 different thing:

1) If we choose NOT to do 3D Carousel, can we flash v2.2 over v2.1 without a wipe?

2) If we HAVE to wipe (either because we go with 3D Carousel -or- because we go with v2.2 and get FC's/Lags) can we then restore a Titanium Backup WITH DATA from v2.1?

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Correct. If you go with 3D you MUST wipe the first time

If you do regular 2.2 you can flash over 2.1 and TB restore from 2.1 should be fine.

TB from 2.1 to 3D 2.2 should work if you don't do system data

And if you ever get problems on either then a fresh wipe will fix it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 2k2s2k:
I just flashed the 3D ROM and it seems to be working great so far. It will be perfect once we can change the right button on Rosie.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Welp

Nils - as an aside, if you cant remap the right button, perhaps you would consider a flashover file which changes it to specific programs. Steve, for Magnolia, did this for us. Specifically, he created one for Dolphin. If you can just give people a flashover for the more popular browsers, that may be a great placeholder.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Working on it even as we type.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Forgot Version Number?

Nils - Flashed v2.2 (not 3D - no more wipes, darnit), and went to settings->about phone->blah blah blah, and it still says "BusinessSense v2.1". Did you forget to update that, or did I just do a bad flash? Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Must have forgot.

Yup. Just checked and I did forget.

You can go into /System/build.prop and edit and locate it and change it to anything you want HaHa
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Ha

No Prob, thanks for verifying ... might want to update OP to show that Build will report wrong number.

And, as always, thanks for the hard work!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
I can confirm that all the widgets work in 3d.

I just flashed the 3d 2.2 and the latest Miui. I feel like playing around with some themes today. Haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
If you are remapping to specific functions, I would love a remap for the latest GO SMS Pro. If you're only doing browsers, a Boat Browser remap would be awesome. Or just do whatever. I'll be happy with whatever you do I'm sure. This ROM just keeps getting better and better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MustacheFart10:
this question may have been answered, but is Netflix working on the 2.2 version?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
The mod we are working is to be able to select any installed app not a preselected list.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Should work but I cant test
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RMinor205:
Downloading at 860 kbs - not bad
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
just curious nils, is 3d carousel that thing that sense 3.0 has where the background image is static and the homescreens like rotate like a cube? i like the background chagning as i scroll along haha no 3d for me!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
Awesome. Can't wait!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bikercr:
Not for me. Movie starts to load and then crashes back to app homescreen.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Sorry, just checked and the wallpaper stays still and the home screen fly around

And this is with the new NetFlix from the market. If so, back to the drawing board.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ianPhillips1:
Nil, just had Netflix crash as soon as the time bar came on screen. Just to be specific I am running Netfkix version 1.22 build 874851-1.2.0-47, for comparison to what version you have working. Love the build, only missing my remap, thx.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Nils , I have run the 3D v2.2 all day and it ran real smooth and fast.

The things I normally use all worked fine . I don't watch movies, I do that on my tablet , so can't help with that. Another fine working rom man ! Thanks

Sent from my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks

Yeah, I don't use things like NetFlix so it is hard for me to tell if they are working or not.

I do listen to books, use maps, listen to music and SMS/MMS. Hey I even make a few phone calls so I know all that works
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
so nils, are the optimizations that you made for the new one essential to flash? i'm lazy and am kinda liking my mistake-ridden rosie that i've got going on here lol and i'm sure if i flashed that patch i might break some of the optomizations...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Sounds like nothing you need just performs better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Hey , that is all I need a phone for,

Keep up the good work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k1mu:
I can't download the 2.2 (non-3D) rom -

"Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to 206.51.224.229"

when attempting to download from dev-host.com.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Did you try IE or FF or is chrome all you have?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
So far 3D is winning the download race at a ratio of 6 to 5

Don't mean anything but hey, I felt like typing
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k1mu:
Unsurprisingly, it fails with Firefox and IE as well since the machine dev-host.org is pointing to is down.

Sorry. :(

Edit: actually, it's NOT down. I can get to it from a machine off of my home network (Verizon FiOS) so I'll see if I can figure out why.

Ah - second edit. Now I know why it's down from the home network.

That network - NOC4HOSTS, 206.51.224.0/20 is or was a malware-spreading network. They're used to spread Antivirus20xx software (fake windows A/V).

I'll drop the block for now, but that's a very shady hosting service.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Hahaha I'll admit I previously didn't care for 3D carousel but I'm testing this new version out off principle. I don't have anything to report since I just flashed a few minutes ago. Oh and v2.1 was carefree perfect for me, I'm expecting the same here.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
All else fails, I downloaded v2.2 thru dolphin browser on my Inc and I'm installed without a hitch.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbizzle:
Lot of lag in the scrollable HTC widgets with the 3d version...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k1mu:
I've got it downloaded - the issue was caused by a network blocked at my local firewall. Nandroid backup running, then I'll apply 2.2.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Did you read the notes just below the download link in post 1?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbizzle:
Yes. Read and followed. Still laggy. Otherwise great work and thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
Nils, 2.2 running very well, thanks so much. Only issue I've run across is I cannot get the Black on White clock to work. Thanks for any help.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Nils, is the mail 3.0 included in this rom? It looks the same as always and the reason I ask is cuz I'm uncertain about what is improved in HTC mail 3.0.

Edit: also, did you tweak the home screen rosie and make it dimmer? I'm running v2.2 with 3d carousel. No biggie, just curious.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
I'll download 3D a few more times to get those numbers up. Haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KlugN:
Weird. I ran 3D for the first half of the day before I flashed miui a few hours ago and experienced no lag in the scrolling.

On a side note, one thing I did notice (although it's an easy fix for me and I'm sure is just due to the porting dimesnsion difference) was that some of the widgets that I had modded (ex.taskos) were "smushed" together. I had certain areas of the widget overlapping itself which I never saw on the 2.1/3.0 hybrid. Again its an easy fix for me though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
I had no problem with the scrolling either.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC THUNDERBOLT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
i am running the 3d and i still cant get the scrolling widgets to smooth up
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ACD168:
3D carosel = ew
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Next stupid question: Have flashed over 2.2 and believe that I have no significant issues except:

1. Suffered the "disappearing apps" problem I had after flashing 1.4. Had to do Nandroid restore.

2. I just noticed an issue going back to 2.0. Almost none of the contents of \system\apps appear in my application drawer. What's up with that?

One other thing, Titanium reports TV Out as uninstalled, but I never did so and it won't let me restore it.

Plus a search for com.htc.android.tvout reveals that it is nowhere to be found on the phone. Agggh. Starting to really lose it with Titanium.

Update - oh well, there's a 3 day weekend coming up. Guess I'll start over with a clean install.....

Second Update - Wiped; reflashed from scratch. I guess it shouldn't surprise me that I suddenly can find everything that was missing..... Lesson learned.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
running 2.2 regular

netflix still doesnt work

i thought it was supposed to be fixed...

do i need to reflash???
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, im starting to get those bull**** problems where 3g just freezes, you can't turn it off and turn it back on, and nothing works. the only way to fix it is reset. i'm on 2.1 i think, i didn'tdownload your newest yet
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KrisPeezy:
Dang, why did I reflash 2.1 last night? haha anyways... will the blue theme work on the 3d 2.2?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Which 2.2 are you on? The clock will not work on 3D version

Nope not yet.

Turn auto off for the screen, turn it up, then turn auto back on. It's all about the starting point.

Don't know why since they are smooth for me

= ew ?????

I ran into those kind of problems when I flashed back and forth and throw in TB and anything can happen.

It was but I am back to the drawing board on that one

Try a clean install of 2.2 and see if it does better

It should
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bikercr:
New market, yes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Twenty four hours on 3D 2.2 and no problems with messaging , GPS , or phone calls. Phone still smooth and fast . Scrolling still smooth. Everything ok so far. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Great. Thanks for the feedback
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
Nils, the issue I have with the Black on White clock not working, I am on 2.2 (non 3D). Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
What is happening? Is it just not showing up?

Try removing it from the home screen and reflash it then readd it to the home screen and let me know what happens
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Market Update

Nils - Both ES File Explorer and ROM Manager are showing as needing an update (according to Appbrain), but neither can be updated; possibly because they are cooked into an un-updatable area (such as system instead of data). Any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
What version of the ROM are you on?

ROM Manager is definitely at the latest in 2.2 but ESF may not be.

However, both are in /app/data/ and should be updatable in the Market. I don't use appbrain so don't know why it won't work. Also, even things cooked in the system area are up-datable if they are available in the market also.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Version

As of 10 minutes ago, v2.2 regular. The radio flashes (5.6 and 11.9) were both abject failures, and the phone was rebooting from heat constantly. This morning I gave up and went nuclear ... ran the RUU. RUU'd back to stock (took 3 tries due to bootlooping after the RUU), restored my 'just fine' nandroid of v2.1, and overlaid 2.2 over it. I just this moment finished updating all apps, and took the opportunity to make a fresh nandroid.

The only 2 apps which show as old and needing update are those 2, and neither will allow an update. If you are saying it is in data, then that's fine - I will select 'skip this update' and be done with it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cbaird7:
When I use the voice recognition to call it won't go through. It seems to be because the dialer puts the +1 on numbers. Never had this issue with stock or cm.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
Nils

How long is the settling in period? I loaded 2.2 3d last night and don't want to go back. However, I'm having some low memory issues. Sync is down to a minimum, weather at 1 hour and Google calendar once a day. Most unused apps are stopped with Bloat Freezer. Does it get better over time?

Nils' Business GS... It's Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
I have been running it for over 24 hrs and have not had any low memory issues.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC THUNDERBOLT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Yup. Per my update above, finally threw in the towel, reinstalled 2.2 cleanly via ROM Manager with full wipe, and have gradually installed Apps only, no data. One at a time I move some app data over where required where the app does not have its own backup/restore routine.

It shouldn't come as any surprise to you that everything that was "missing" (HTC widgets, etc.) have "miraculously" returned to the ROM.

On a completely separate note, I have been all over xda-developers looking at Gingerbread, Sense 2.1 and 3.0 ROM's and I have got to give you credit where credit is due, you are just about the ONLY developer out there routinely, consistently and assiduously updating your ROM. And your support is second to none.

A heartfelt thanks for all you do, Nils.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I don't think it is the dialer doing that. It is either Google or Facebook contacts that do it.

Should settle in pretty quick depending on what you have syncing. Google, HTC and Facebook seem to take forever. Personally the only thing I sync automatically is weather nd have everything else set to sync on open. Also turn of find phone in privacy and see if that helps

Me too
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
I'll try reflashing after I leave work BUT I figured I'd ask. I'm running v2.2 with carousel, does anyone notice no browser reflow? Mine isn't working in either dolphin browser or stock browser. I'll check my settings again as well maybe I missed a setting.

Also, I've noticed slight slowdown when using one scrollable "3d" app, HTC calendar. Other than that, this rom is great as always Nils.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thank you. Positive feedback is always nice especially when it is on something you enjoy doing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
1x

Anyone know if there is a way (app, patch, option) to turn off 1x. I would rather have 3G or nothing; as 1x tends to not only provide no usable results (try running navigation with 1x) but tends to overwork the phone in trying.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I am sure there is a way but if you do that you have 0 connectivity. If you are getting 1x only just turn off mobile
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
You don't send texts?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SoCGHOST:
I have tried a few Gingerbread \ Sense roms in the past few weeks and they have all had the same issue I'm having with this one, very laggy. Is there something I am doing incorrectly? I installed thru Rom Manager with the data wipe / dalvik wipe, and still its laggy. I tried tweaking with spare parts as suggested in installation, however it has not gotten any faster. I really need to get this worked out, because from what I can see and play with in this rom, it looks really nice. On a side note, why does the rosie look so dim. I have the display all the way up and everything else looks fine. I came from CM7 which was running fine, so I really need to get this sorted. There are so many nice roms this being one of them, that just are not working properly for me. My setup is in my sig.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
"And your support is second to none."

that's probably the most well-described attribute of nils with his roms, seriously....out of all of the devs here, nils is the one who will read every single post and comment to them accordingly. i don't see that in other threads. nils, you're the man, and it's why i'm always coming back to your roms from the others haha

as for your suggestion of a fresh flash of 2.2, i'm gonna give that a go later today. i haven't done a fresh flash in weeks, ever since putting on 2.1 i believe, so i could use the cleanliness :P haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bikedogrun:
Just D/L'ed & installed BGS 2.2 after full wipe (coming from CM7) and under Settings/About phone/Software information/Software number = Business_GingerSense-v2.1 ???

/BD :(

BTW - It looks "great" and performs very well... just the odd anomaly of version number ///
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
S

Just forgot to change it is all
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
Okay I tried what you asked, but it did not work. I still only get the white on black clock. I did wipe cache and dalvik when I tried this. Any other ideas? Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I have no idea. The only thing that comes to mind is if you are actually on the 2.2 3D ROM which it will not work on.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
To avoid that I didn't even put that one on my SD card (to avoid confusion). Well if you think of something let me know. Tom is great, runs very well. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k1mu:
I'm running 2.2, non-3D. (I've just gotten things back restored from the 2.1 upgrade, so it'll be a while before I'm willing to wipe again.)

I have a crash from the Calendar app that's quite reproducible.

Pick the calendar app from the home page. That brings up the month view for me.

If I then select a day from that month, Sense FCs:

"Sorry!

The application HTC Sense (process com.htc.launcher) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."

Calendar is still running at this point, but the home key gives me the "htc" logo followed by (eventually) sense restarting.

I installed 2.2 over 2.1 without wiping. I did full wipe before 2.1 was installed.