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[Touch HD Android Development] farukb:
i can see everyone is just waiting to be done,and almost no one is actually contributing...not even with a small donation,because the guy is going to buy the phone so he could provide us something we have eagerly waited for,so even one dollar would be appreciated i am sure
[Touch HD Android Development] root:
Not that i would really be in android/nand/... but i noticed this debate. The problem is that there were just too many false prophets with no results. I would rather recomend a donation to download (like xming) so people can donate for results not for good wishes.
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Am waiting on the release, then will help with doing bug testing and so on =D
[Touch HD Android Development] farukb:
true (10 chars)
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Yeah, for Android development, i think that seems fair,

What do you guys think ?
[Touch HD Android Development] flannee:
When and if will donate on working version think that's best way..could like said have the prophets but no results..
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Well, Tida8's got NAND working on : Rodium

(build) NAND RHOD GSM (ROM FROYO BLUE) ETA: READY

(build) NAND RHOD CMDA (ROM FROYO BLUE) ETA: READY
[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
Actually ACL did. Tiad used his work and made his own build.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
does it work well on the Rhodium?
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
dunno, ant got a rodium, i think your best bet would be ot ask on his forum ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] becinko91:
Excuse me for the stupid question, but what is "Rhodium" ?

Thanks!
[Touch HD Android Development] jeanfrederic:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=htc+rhodium

De nada.
[Touch HD Android Development] oscarfernand:
genius at work

http://tiad8.com/test-builds/164-test-nand-blackstone-touch-hd-rom-froyo-x-ginger-eta-tba-5.html#post3418
[Touch HD Android Development] oscarfernand:
important

froyo x ginger blackstone nand is ready (rom)

tiad8 is great :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
(test) NAND Blackstone: Touch HD (ROM FROYO X GINGER) ETA: TBA

Thread title
[Touch HD Android Development] lie_ui:
froyo x ginger

Sorry, just a stupid question.

froyo x ginger, is it Froyo or Gingerbread?

Is it certainly not XDAndroid FRX06 right?

I looked around but did not see the official thread/discussion for this build.

Any clue will be appreciated.
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Narr its not stupid, =) i know its kind of confusing,

But its Froyo 2.2 or i might even be 2.1 and either way

its Google Andriod Froyo 2.2/1 with a gingerbread theme,
[Touch HD Android Development] oscarfernand:
Tiad8 twitter:

update on blackstone nand. 1-froyo x ginger blackstone nand is ready (rom). 2-building the blackstone.NBH now
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Thanks =D

(10 Extra)
[Touch HD Android Development] foulke:
Available !

look tiad8

Better close some double topics (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=14676962&posted=1#post14676962)
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
that's still an SD version

no available yet (NAND) ....?
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Check the first post =)
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
so friday then :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Kapie:
Wow, i thought you guys gave up about blackstone nand :P
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
I did too to be honest, also the XDAndroid seemed quiet too since FRX06.

I've been told I'll get a work mobile so was hoping to use my old Blackstone for it, and having android on it would rock the socks :)
[Touch HD Android Development] hwarang:
I have a question....

I am doing exactly the same what is done in the video tutorial for preparation of the cd card and installing froyo blue nand, but when i run haret.exe, it shows message:

INFO: Task rpcrouter: 15 blocked for more than 120 seconds , and so on.. only the numbers on the left side of the display are going higher but few minutes later it shows:

mdp_irq already on 4 4

mdp_dma: busy , and after that only the numbers on the left side of the display are going up... and same message again and again...... what to do ?
[Touch HD Android Development] nasko_spasko:
Hi, mate! If you are talking for the video in the froyo blue thread, I am afraid it's for TP2 not for TouchHD.

The Blackstone NAND is coming at friday, as far as I know. :)

Cheers!
[Touch HD Android Development] ying4050:
Is it true? I can't wait for that.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
unless your a Beta tester you'll have to wait :)

or have an SD version - but be patient - it is nearly friday...
[Touch HD Android Development] hwarang:
I can't install on sd card?

INFO: Task rpcrouter: 15 blocked for more than 120 seconds , and so on.. only the numbers on the left side of the display are going higher but few minutes later it shows:

mdp_irq already on 4 4

mdp_dma: busy , and after that only the numbers on the left side of the display are going up... and same message again and again...... what to do ?
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
try here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991207
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Yeah, agreed =)

Sent from my HD2 runnin NexusHD2 Gingerbread 2.3.4
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
Simon WM you know the link for http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchhd/specification.html in your signature doesn't seem to be valid anymore? :(

this one does work though: http://www.htc.com/uk/product/touchhd/specification.html
[Touch HD Android Development] redoano:
Oh can't wait! I would sell my phone just because of windows, but nand is coming at last! Really can't wait :D
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
thanks, i new it'd stopped working =p just couldn't find the right link

Sent from my HD2 runnin NexusHD2 Gingerbread 2.3.4
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Yeah. sames Even though i bought a HD2 last week, just in case we done get nand... But i have fulll faith that Tida8 will bring NAND to the HD :D
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
sad news guys
[Touch HD Android Development] Corwin8:
Hello

I have few questions: NAND means android installed into blackstone memory by some installer similary to installing new WM roms?

If it is older andoid (maybe 2.1), will it be possible to install aplications on SD card?

Is it possible to do with this NAND wifi hotspot to use my blackstone as modem for my PC? It is absolutely necesarry function for me.

Bad news are really bad, but not for us, for tiad8 ofcourse! I don´t want to be unsensitive, but work is one of the best healers- and I´m not saying that because I would like to have NAND on my blackstone.
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
yeah defo!

Sent from my HD2 runnin NexusHD2 Gingerbread 2.3.4
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
yes NAND = install to internal memory like WM

Unsure if it will be 2.1 (eclair) / 2.2 (Froyo) / 2.3 Gingerbread (more likely Froyo) - so you will probably be able to install apps 2 sd using the move to sd feature, or if this takes off well you may even get some apps2sd+ roms perhaps?

If 2.2+ then the wifi router will probably be an option although i'm not 100% as i havent seen a nand version yet.

yeah, work does help take your mind off it - but we should let tiad8 do what they need to and just be patient :)
[Touch HD Android Development] FranzB:
Hi. when do you think you can release?
[Touch HD Android Development] farukb:
if you can't wait go over at www.neopeek.com and try clockworkmod android:) it's something between xdandroid and nand
[Touch HD Android Development] Kapie:
any news yet?
[Touch HD Android Development] nasko_spasko:
Nope. But maybe soon! :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Guys, keep checking tida8's forum, in stead if posting bout any news!!

But I can understand the suspense that's being held towards NAND
[Touch HD Android Development] jeanfrederic:
Actually, it becomes pretty boring visiting XDA 'cause of a bunch of useless threads, stupid comments or false alarms. Not to mention many fellows can't even read 10 words :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Android Development] nasko_spasko:
Well, it's because there are not many blackstone-linux developers for nand in this forum... But this is my favorite ppc forum ! :)
[Touch HD Android Development] redoano:
Exactly, bro. Not many developers, but still best ppc forum, i think.
[Touch HD Android Development] zebra363:
Hi guys,

I tried the NAND installation on a Touch HD / Blackstone.

After trying ADB (succeed), and Task29 (succeed too), would like to do the "Fastboot" step but.. I unfortunately can't !

I guess it's because I got the wrong RUU file, or NBH file, I don't know.

Does anybody have a solution to this? :confused: Or is everyone waiting for that?

So, I cannot get the "blue" screen I should get with the Fastboot step..

Anyway, thanks for help! :D
[Touch HD Android Development] Kapie:
There is yet no NBH for android ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] nasko_spasko:
From where did you get the nbh?

As far as I know, the boot.img and reocvery.img are not finished yet for NANDroid on Blackstone.
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
one word...

Rhoudium-NAND-Build :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Yeah, i get the felling, Xda-dev id say is my most visited site on a day to day basis, but it suck ass when i see 5 threads to do with Touch HD NAND saying

ITs finally here !!!!!!!

And they've have check anythink, and read that tida8s put TBA and then leave it and get other massive load of posts saying, when its coming, and so on...
[Touch HD Android Development] MietasSR:
Guys, I tried to run Android from NAND using files for Rhod. I succeeded it. Is running, but sadly very bad running. I have negative on LCD, can't calibrate touchscreen, and GSM have a problem. But... it's running :)

I just need other kernel with yaffs and NAND modules compiled into kernel. Sadly I can't compile it :(
[Touch HD Android Development] nasko_spasko:
Ok but this is the thread for Blackstone, right? I think there is a huge difference between theese devices.
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Serious !!, I now that this could be a long shot, but can to take some screenies, and upload em :D :rolleyes: :eek: :cool: :p

Also, Tida8s making the nbh and all the other stuff Blackstone needs,

otherwise well done mate :cool:
[Touch HD Android Development] jeanfrederic:
According to his other posts, I think it is...ironic!
[Touch HD Android Development] MietasSR:
I come back to WM, but I can flash this again and take some screenshots/photos. :)

EDIT: OK, some photos:

At this moment is stop, I must prepare some special recovery image. Previous I installed zip package using ClockWorkMod from rootfs.img from tiad8, unpacked to partition on microSD. But with this kernel is not usable :(
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
I keep coming back to check but I do wish there'd be one dedicated thread to check on rather than having several threads for the same topic :p

Scary that the NAND situation seems to be hinging on one dev though - but I guess this phone is sadly old hat now - I guess the android NAND will kick things off a little - hope so anyway, was hoping to use this a secondary mobile for if my desire dies and/or I get a work mobile SIM :)

Glad I held on to it in a way :)

can we assume that this, Simon_WM's, is the 'most official' thread on here for now? :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
Speaking of updates... (best read in reverse)

from twitter
[Touch HD Android Development] serphinox:
According to tiad8 tweet, july 1 is tbe official launch. The suspense im feeling...
[Touch HD Android Development] redoano:
news from tiad8's twitter, cant wait anymore :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
thanks 4 update ill add it to OP

- HTC HD2 - CyanogenMOD 7 3.3.9
[Touch HD Android Development] Chef_Tony:
while i can understand that people want to get rid of winmo as their primary operating system, i feel like i need to remind you that just because it is in a nand rom, it does not mean it is perfect. it will certainly boot faster without the winmo detour and also it will have slightly better response times because nand is faster than the sd card, but just cooking a current build into a nand rom does not magicly make the blackstone comparable to any stock android device out there. there will still be hardware problems with bluetooth, 3.5mm audio, camera...

also, when you need to flash it, there is the risk of bricking the device and while now you can just copy and paste a newer version to the sd card, while major improvements in nand roms can only be achieved by completely flashing the rom again which comes with the risk all over again.

don't get me wrong, i think tiad is a more than capable developer and chef and his android are awesome. however, many people get excited as if the very first nand build would suddenly turn their blackstone into a samsung galaxy s2 and that is certainly not the case.

also, according to tiad's messages, july 1st will be the release date for the beta testers only. realistically, before you get a stable build that is made for everyday use with full hardware capability will still take another month or two.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
few updates from the twitter again...

http://twitter.com/#!/tiad8
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
I imagine the NAND will probably kick some life into the dev for the handset again - It's sad that pretty much everything seems to be done with the WM front :(

It'll never be on par with any (even cheap - i.e. the ZTE Blade) android handset, but it's nice to play with!
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
http://tiad8.com/test-builds/164-test-nand-blackstone-touch-hd-rom-froyo-x-ginger-eta-tba-24.html

says the test team will get the nand rom tomorrow :)
[Touch HD Android Development] nasko_spasko:
Yes but the nbh should be ready in friday.
[Touch HD Android Development] Chef_Tony:
the test team needs an nbh as well. the .nbh file is the actual rom file, just like with winmo roms it is ruu_signed.nbh or BLACIMG.nbh.

so the dates contradict each other, how would they test, without a rom file to flash. or maybe i misunderstood you and you meant to say that there will be a public test, beginning on friday.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
yeah the way i understand is test team have nhb now, for public on friday
[Touch HD Android Development] fireman_sax:
no i'm part of the test team and we don't have the .nbh : it will be released on friday. We have the nand .zip . Every thing is ready to flash nand we just have to wait till friday. I don't know if it's a public release friday or just for test team.

wait and see.
[Touch HD Android Development] john_matrix:
Hi there!

There is a very good news to have Android on Blackstone!

Everything is working on it?

Actually, my parents have my old Blackstone and maybe this is a good thing to replace the veteran WM6.0 with Android ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
oh really. not how i read it - but oh well - test team on friday then
[Touch HD Android Development] foulke:
Don't know much about Android Nand flashing, but can't you flash using recovery mode with adb ? (android debugger)

This means that you don't need a nbh file ?

Can anyone confirm this idea ?
[Touch HD Android Development] brunomota:
a FULL PACKAGE of NAND for Blackstone will be available on Friday... Don't know the details of the content of that package but we just need to wait 2 more days :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Chef_Tony:
these are the detailed instructions on how to flash nand android on rhodium cdma and gsm: http://tiad8.com/test-builds/165-special-guide-get-nand-working-rhod-gsm-cdma.html

from that, you can guess that it will be very similar on the blackstone.

if i understand that correctly, the BLACIMG.nbh will be necessary for fastboot, and using fastboot and adb you flash the recovery.img (?)

but one thing, i really hope for, is that tiad optimizes the process of the installation so it is slightly more user-friendly. a good start would be to combine all the downloads and integrate all the necessary things in there. simple as that. if everybody needs all of the files and needs to sort out where to extract what, why should thousands of people need to do it, when it could be as easy as one person building a proper zip.

also, with hard coded paths, one could create a batch file for all adb actions, again, so that one person types the commands once, instead of 1000s of people having to do it.

these are the easiest steps of optimizing the process and i certainly hope, he will do them.

EDIT: oh, you were posting at the same time as me, full package sounds good and is exactly, what i am talking about.
[Touch HD Android Development] eKLiPSe05:
Is this version going to be stable? And is everything working?
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
update...

test team will get nand backstone full package. I guess we remaining public will have to wait awhile... hopefully to iron out any bugs though!
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Guys it's official NAND 4 blackstone is here tida8's twitter said so... check the forums... am away atm so will update the thread when I get back to my pc

Twitter

tiad8: OK BLACKSTONE USERS. I'M GOING TO START SENDING THE DOWNLOAD LINKS. IF ANY BODY CAN'T GET TO MULTIUPLOAD, PM YOUR EMAIL I WILL EMAIL YOU---

- HTC HD2 - CyanogenMOD 7 3.3.9
[Touch HD Android Development] Kapie:
when is the release for all users? i thought it would be on first of july :S
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
tiad8 said that's it's for private testing but he also said if u pm him you can join the beta teaing group

- HTC HD2 - CyanogenMOD 7 3.3.9
[Touch HD Android Development] MietasSR:
I have this package, but... if I flash ruu_signed.nbh from tiad8's zip, then it automatically booting android from sd card. If I remove card, then I see "Waiting for SD Card". What the hell?
[Touch HD Android Development] giniman:
I've the same behaviour. Has anybody succeeded installing the nand rom?
[Touch HD Android Development] MietasSR:
OK, I know all - ruu_signed from zip is just kernel packed into OS.nb, not LK bootloader. With my modified LK from Rhodium is booting, but recovery is same as in Rhodium - I can't select any option with it, and I have messed colors. F***.
[Touch HD Android Development] Bloodbreed:
where to find those nand roms ?
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
test users have them at the moment (see tiad8's forum on the 1st post of this thread for a link)

may be released to public when that is done...
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
am tempted to join up n post a link here! but not sure

- HTC HD2 - CyanogenMOD 7 3.4.0
[Touch HD Android Development] Kapie:
go ahead :P
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
I thought about that too - but decided it may be worth the wait :)
[Touch HD Android Development] fireman_sax:
we have received the .nbh for flashing fastboot but we have bad issues with it. It does not boot in fastboot so we can't flash recovery. We are waiting for fixed ruu_signed.nbh . it's on a good way.

++
[Touch HD Android Development] tsalta:
Installing NAND on Blackstone seems to complicated even now when after hours the official NAND version for Blackstone is UP this is very bad i mean you need to do Almost 10 steps to Flash NAND and to success on the begining i was thinking that the NAND ROM will be simple .NBH File witch we can flash it directly like a regular nbh windows mobile ROM

But now its seems that you need to do thousend procedures and im sure that many peoples will have troubles with this trying to get NAND working perfectly.
[Touch HD Android Development] unstable_:
Does anybody know the releasing date? Official thread is quite chaotic. I found that there is some dev version, but i am looking for _final_ version for normal users.

Thanks, i really appreciate ur work
[Touch HD Android Development] tsalta:
I think the official 1st realse of the NAND nbh file is already done and maybe tiad will upload it tonight ot tomorow.. this is what i think :)

So we just need to wait a litle more.
[Touch HD Android Development] unstable_:
god, thank you, you just made my day, caaan't wait anymore -- i must go for a walk or something :D
[Touch HD Android Development] tsalta:
dont be excited too much because this is only what i think but i can be wrong of course im waiting too to flash it :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
when looking at the 'how to set up' thread it looked like half of it was already done for anyone who is used to or have flashed a custom rom before

i got the impression it might be a task29, flash nbh, do a few commands in adb and go...

I know there's about 4 or so steps in there for setting up the SPL etc. is that still not the case? task29, flash nbh - then do 10 steps of stuff? :)
[Touch HD Android Development] tsalta:
The whole process is too complicated for the regular users like myself i know very well and i can do many things with WM but im not familiar with Nand Flashing and already in the tiad forum have few guidesw how to flash the nand for blackstone and im asking myself why have few guides when we Need ONLY ONE FULL and Clear step by step guide easy to read with all atached files you will need.. just like 1,2,3 and in this case absolutly everyone will be able to Flash Nand no matter do you need to do 10 or 20 steps to get done.

Now i wrote to Tiad Thread about this and i hope someone really to make a Super TUT how to step by step with all the files.. or maybe some familiar person with this can write or open here in this section a CLEAR TUT to be easy for everyone..

Because i get totally confused get this put that from this site.. install that from other site and etc.. also on the final when i was thinking i understand it and almost everything is done some person told me a complate diferent things.. that i need to put for example 3 specific files in my SD CARD befor the TASK 29 WOW this was not writen in any Guide in the Tiad forum and i guess this is skipped because "Everyone" know it and its stupid but... the regular user who do not have expirience with Android like me don`t have from where to know all this things!!!

So i hope really someone to make a nice clear TUT with all the files!!!

Thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] yobee01:
How install NAND for Blackstone EASY!??tutorial is in english tiad8 site!!i am french speak little english!! and google traduction is RRrrr SH...t

Thank
[Touch HD Android Development] mirekkubu:
just my lay opinion

NAND is one thing, but still I was never not finish that everything will work as it should (camera, usb, what battery, BT, etc.). So far in all the assemblies has always been a problem with something. Another thing is stability - restarts? I know that a flash ROM to give some hope, I would like to be optimistic, but our Touch HD is an older type, and thus declining interest of people as they could be programmed.

Entertainment will be up to the experts will try to get phones with Android WIN7.

It's just humor.
[Touch HD Android Development] nasko_spasko:
Stop trying. There is still problem with the .nbh, the only thing you can do is to wait...

Cheers!
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
You best bet is to PM Tida8 and ask for french version, and see what happens
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
All we have to do is wait, like you say... its bin a very long time, since the beginning of this whole ordeal, and it seems that its almost over, well.. you get the point am making !! :p
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
two guides on that first post for how to get it working.

I still see the general gist of it is above.... for anyone using a custom rom at the moment..

task 29

flash

adb flash recovery

install zip updates.

the majority of the rest of it is setting up the phone for a custom rom and testing the android debug bridge stuff.

I am starting to itch to want to give it a go - I'd write a guide on it when I've flashed it if need be! :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
Just noticed a new guide here with pictures:

http://tiad8.com/blackstone-touch-hd/219-guide-install-rom-nand-blackstone.html

don't know if that will help you guys who are struggling