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[HTC Sensation] PartyMango:
Other phones don't show any or at least no that heavy colour banding, it is probably the Galaxy S2s graphics chip which processes colour at a lower quality and therefore produces low quality output in a selection of applications.

The keyboard is also clearly burnt in. The new, more black layout might lead to more uniform burn-in, but is a concession to the problems of the screen technology AMOLED.

You should probably listen to your own advice.

Just a few weeks ago I was fire and flame for the Galaxy S2, but there's a reason I sent it back after just about two weeks of daily use: It just isn't that good, doesn't live up to the hype. I want a phone that is usable now, not some time in the future when a custom ROM is available that gets rid of Samsungs tries at software development.

I still think that the Galaxy S2 is, in essence, a really great phone - but plenty of small details/annoyances really hamper the experience.
[HTC Sensation] ashasaur:
My thoughts personally on this whole "Sensation is underpowered" debacle is this:

1-You are buying an HTC product. What has HTC always done? The release something KILLER every 18 months or so, then kinda rest on their laurels and let the money roll in. But you are still buying an HTC product, which means excellent build quality, excellent component quality and of course, excellent developer support.

2-People are complaining about the S4G only having 768MB of RAM versus 1GB...people...you aren't going to use that entire 1GB. The difference between 768MB and 1GB of RAM is trivial at best. Also keep in mind, the more RAM you have the more power it takes to run said RAM. Which leads me too...

3-The battery. HTC devices have always had rather small-ish batteries. But then again, as in ALL aspects of life(I'm serious folks, just ask her) it's not the size, it's how you use it. Take the HD2 for instance. Battery life with WinMo was EXCELLENT. Despite the stock battery only being 1380(I think) you could easily get a day or more with moderate use. I did anyways. But with Android, the battery life simply SUCKS. Battery life with Android has ALWAYS been terrible. Custom Kernels are really the only way to fix this problem, and I assure you that the S4G will have it's share of custom kernels in due time.

4-The screen. I personally find the SOLED screens to be suuuuper saturated and just straight up ugly. EVERYTHING is purple! They also require more power to run. HTC has stayed the course with their regular LCD technology, but blown everyone else away with the qHD resolution.

But the biggest thing you all are forgetting...is that only a handful of us even have one yet! It doesn't matter what Engadget or anyone else says(but especially Apple-gadget), the best judge is always yourself. I mean comeon, everyone worships the ground that iPhone users walk on...and yet, you are here why? Because you PERSONALLY found Android or WinMo to be more compelling for YOUR needs. Stop the bickering and wait till the worldwide release when more than just a few lucky souls have got one in hand before you start making rash judgements.

I will be getting mine day-and-date from T-Mobile USA, had it preorder'd and payed off for around a month now, and plan on doing a super in-depth video walkthrough and review for everyone here.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
xfinez... the camera is a 1.3 front facing camera vga is the standard that it captures. so just to clear that up.
[HTC Sensation] Maedhros:
COnsidering the sensation has what... 150 mb spare ram... the extra 300 ram would be appriciated!

plus amodel uses less battery power.
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
Refuting my claims are ok if you are going to do it in the context of my post. Since 1 gb Ram, substantial internal memory and adequate batteries are not nothing new, what's "eye-opening" is why HTC did not make any these features standard on the Sensation since it is being billed as a flagship phone.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Are you sure? HTC lists it as a VGA camera on their website.

http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html
[HTC Sensation] ashasaur:
Yes, but, that 150MB of RAM is simply what is left after the entire system has been loaded from NAND. Under normal use you should never run into a situation where you will realistically run out of available RAM. Take my HD2 for example, having only 576MB of RAM, at any given time after Android is fully loaded from NAND I have only around 100MB free under my own cooked custom ROM. I have NEVER in my 5 months of running said ROM run out of free RAM. If there is one thing that Android does right, its RAM and CPU cycle monitoring.
[HTC Sensation] :
From what I read in engadget, Samsung is scheduled to release their next-gen Galaxy by Q1 2012. This was also mentioned by eldar murtazin previously. I have a feeling that GS2 will be outdated quite comfortably.
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
This post struck me as funny. Let's assume you're correct.

Scenario 1) The SGS3 even further distances itself from the Sensation in the areas that have been discussed in this thread. HTC doesn't respond by upping the anty and loses face as a high-end phone manufacturer. Impact to current Sensation owners - an outfeatured phone from a manufacturer seen as losing it's mojo.

Scenario 2) The SGS3 is matched spec-for-spec by a new high-end HTC flagship. Impact to current Sensation owners - the same impact as experienced by current SGS2 owners as both phones will be outfeatured by two new flagships.

The funny part to me is what you're perceiving as negative for SGS2 owners will be just as negative to Sensation owners regardless of which two scenarios play out. At the end of the day, if you want the "hottest" phone, you're looking at a six to nine month replacement cycle no matter whose logo is on it. And there are enough phone junkies on this site that would be thrilled to dump their SGS2 or Sensation for the SGS3 and Sensation 2 as soon as the opportunity presented itself. Mobile electronics are moving too fast to make longevity a legitimate "feature" for discussion.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
to be honest with you no one knows what the hell the camera is.. one place has vga another has vga(1.2) and another says 1.3 but the tmobile pic i have says 1.3 so i really dont know and to be honest i have my laptop and skype for serious video conferencing so i guess its just a front facing camera.. lol with unkown specs, just put what ever figure you want in your head and thats what it is
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
To make it even more confusing here's an HTC link to T-Mobile's specific version of the Sensation that doesn't even mention the front camera. Wierd. It does confirm the 8MB SD card though.

http://www.htc.com/us/products/sens...&&gclid=CLeY07zAkakCFale7Aod7mD5qA#tech-specs
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
gosh this is gonna be an ongoing debate about if its this is it that.. but hey atleast its there.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
8 MB?! That's rather tiny. :p
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
he's not fear mongering. taken from the OLED wiki:
[HTC Sensation] rp-x1:
Hi Stone Cold,

I take it off charge at 7am, and it usually has around 25% battery by around 3 - 4pm.

My usage tests so far have been:

3 x 2 – 5 minute phone calls

2 x 30 minute web browsing, some with streaming content

2 x 5 minute web browsing

10 x 2 – 3 minute Android marketplace visits

20 – 30 x SMS messages + same received

3 x email POP3 accounts, checking every 15, 30 and 60 mins respectively

2 x 10 minute gaming (Angry Birds was used for testing)
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
Thank you for your post. First off, i don't think that people replying here are "complaining" in the classic sense. It's more, like me, people honestly wondering why does the Sensation have poorer stats than not only the Galaxy, but the EVO 3D as well. The question is legitimate since they make both phones AND they are coming out at the same time.

Now, with regards to some of your points above.

1. The HD2 was mu first HTC phone, and contrary to the belief of the tech savvy lifers on here everybody does NOT know what you know. Therefore, your assessment of what I can expect of HTC (every 18 months thing) is new to me. I was expecting the Sensation to be more on the Galaxy level spec wise and blow the doors off anything in its class...

3. "But with Android, the battery life simply SUCKS. Battery life with Android has ALWAYS been terrible". Let's say that is true, and the Sensation is an Android phone, would you NOT be more appreciative of the fact that HTC acknowledges Androids limitations by giving the Sensation a 1930Ah like the Atrix or even a 1730Ah of the EVO 3D? So my discussion point (NOT complaint) again is knowing that other companies are adjusting their battery size to accommodate Android isn't it at least fair to say that they sold the Sensation short a bit with their current offering?

With regards to not having it our hands, company's tout specs. Customers read specs. Based on specs, i really don't have to have the phone to know that the battery is smaller than the competition or that there is virtually no internal storage. These things are important to "me." So when I check the stat sheet it is going to draw my attention to it immediately. But, the phone is not out yet so I will wait to see what others say after they give it a spin.
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
Thanks for this. That is not too bad. on my hd2, running android, after i cross the 50% mark it is down hill from there. The percentage of battery life diminishing looks like an odometer going backwards.

** That would be the 6 million dollar man, Steve Austin - HA!
[HTC Sensation] rp-x1:
I know the feeling, I had that with my HD2!

Damn, I only mentioned that Austin as I watched Expendables last night (and he is in it)! :D
[HTC Sensation] Bogdanbd:
In my opinion this is a decent battery life, it is after all a 1,2ghz cpu and a 4.3" display...
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Guys, if you want a perfect phone you're gonna wait forever. All phone manufacturers, htc, Samsung, moto, nokia, sony erricson, LG they breed like rats. That's how the corporate world works, every 3 to 6 month new models.
[HTC Sensation] rp-x1:
Same here, to be honest, that sort of spec (obviously slightly different architectures, etc) would feel at home in a laptop not even 5 years ago, and laptop batteries hardly last these days either. If it lasts a day, I'm happy, as quite frankly its a solid little powerhouse.
[HTC Sensation] paocavallo:
I suppose you really don't think like that!

1) amoLED technology is another world!

2) resolution is not so big: 540x960 against 480x800

3) Samsung screen is more and more attractive than sensation for as regards video and games. Meanwhile htc screen is better just for reading writes....

4) Samsung brightness is more attractive and really let you watch the screen also under the sunlight...with htc sens this is impossible!

5) amoLed screen battery consumption is more less than led screen so the amoLed devices battery has got a much longer life....

so...are you sure what about you told previously???
[HTC Sensation] henrik.dk:
big battery

big internal storage

better screen (? that I cannot blame HTC as they don't have the technology)

physical camera button as in Evo 3D

these are such humble requests.
[HTC Sensation] BerreZ:
Improvement not Revolution

I've got my Sensation from yesterday morning switching from a Desire HD.

The Sensation feels and looks a lot more lighter , smaller than it actually is. The power button is much better. battery life got a big improvement.The phone is faster but the difference is not notable.Even with the bigger resolution ( Does anybody know if this will become a standard in the future ?) the screen from the Desire HD looks better. Sense 3.0 is eyecatching but is not a big improvement , in fact the only interesting part is the new Unlock screen.

So the Sensation is a wonderful phone , but did you remembered the HD and the following HD2 , that was an (r)evolution.

Since the Desire who has been a big commercial succes the engineers at HTC did only very smal steps every time. You only could hope that once they will be free to use their imagination and blows us away .

I'm probably only dreaming , money .... money.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
The screen's better on the DHD! How so??
[HTC Sensation] Maedhros:
You dont read the Posts at all do you?

Srsly... STOP posting BS posts like this. We dont want to Keep waiting. What we want IS DECENT UPGRADES BETWEEN GENERATIONS... READ THIS POST:

Could not have stated it any better.

The Inspire 4G + the Older Generation SLCD Screens are of better quality then the one on the HTC sensation.

So in fact with the sensation you get Higher Resolution with a MUCH WORSE Quality of screen.,

You will replace you Phone Before you leave it on Long Enough, On the Same Exact Screen Continuously to have a Screen Burn in
[HTC Sensation] cybermessiah:
I am using my Desire still {AMOLED screen version}.

I actually went into the HTC store here in Taiwan, and compared it with the Sensation.

The Sensation SLCD screen does indeed look washed out compared to my Desire's Amoled, and can really notice the back light bleeding and a bit of a yellow tinge to the whites.

I dont spend my time staring at the back cover of the phone. I spend my time looking at the screen.

So, I ve gotten used to Amoled technology from the original Desire and find it superior to SLCD.

My wish is that HTC could start using Amoled screens again as they did in the initial release of their Desire... but I dont see that happening.

But its still my wish and the main factor involved in my decision to buy.
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
I think they would if Samsung didn't have a shortage of them (enough to fill their requests at this moment)
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
Your in luck. (If HTC stop being greedy, they should be using AMOLED again!)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/samsung-oled-idUSL3E7GV0BQ20110531

Providing HTC are willing to give the consumer, the best they can get, and probably cut back (slightly) on the profit margin, the could get AMOLED again. This new factory is capable of churning out 30,000,000 per month and maximum capacity. As supply goes up, price goes down. Hopefully we'll see more of these displays in the future!
[HTC Sensation] PartyMango:
That is just untrue, my Nexus One had burn-ins after a few months time - keyboard and notification bar, especially. The same holds true for many other phones with OLED screens, just read the forums. While it really doesn't pose much of a problem, you should probably accept that AMOLED just isn't all that great.

The pen-tile matrix on that display was horrible. At least that problem is solved now.

The reason you noticed a "yellow tinge" is probably because the Desire is calibrated to a very cool colour temperature. It should probably display warmer colours. Black levels are undoubtedly much better on AMOLED.
[HTC Sensation] brilldoctor:
One word: Bootloader
[HTC Sensation] PartyMango:
As we now know, the Sensations bootloader is going to be unlocked even on existing devices: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14188770&postcount=50
[HTC Sensation] EmceeGeek:
only thing i care about is the battery. they could have put a 1600mAh battery in it... if the evo 3d can have a 1730mAh, why can't this dual core beast at least have close enough battery size? just saying. otherwise, i can't complain because i have the g2x and i hate it.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
Because it's all about the money!!! :cool:
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
I don't own the phone yet, but based on posted info:

Fix the video recording so that the auto exposure adjustment doesn't fluctuate and over compensate so much. When light levels change the image is often temporarily too dark or too light.

Add support for raw photo format. I've seen a post showing this on a preview HTC model. It needs to be added to the Sensation via an update.

Allow disabling all 3D and animation effects.
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
Thanks for the input, but I want to make sure that we stay as close to the topic as possible. No one here believes that we are going to ever get the Holy Grail or the Uber phone. WE GET IT. However, in comparison to the competitor phones that are competing for our dollars - right now - is the Sensation the BEST phone HTC could have offered? Ok, scratch that. To make it simpler for some - just based on the sensation stacking up to its brother (from the SAME manufacturer, coming out in the SAME month) the EVO 3D, SPEC WISE, could HTC have done more? Hows that? :D

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/htc-sensation-versus-the-rest-of-the-dual-core-world-smartphone/

I'm with you.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
Then the answer is clear. :p They easily could have. The proof is with the fact that the EVO 3D and Holiday will have 1GB of RAM and presumably a bigger battery.
[HTC Sensation] fireblade893:
I have had my Sensation for 2 weeks now and find it to be a very good phone.

The battery is way better than my old HD2(albeit a 18month old one) running coredroid 1.6. It will last all day for me (at least 30mins bt car kit phone use,upto 1 hour music play back, and 30 mins browsing with auto-sync on), it does take ages to charge up though over 3 hours for full charge which seems slow, am still using HD2 charger atm dont know if thats why

The screen is also much better than HD2 colours are better and sharpness is better it is nicer to browse net with. Having said that the HD2 is a bigger screen , I know both are 4.3" but Sensation is taller and narrower than HD2, it does feel a lot smaller in your hand though

I looked at a SGS2 but after having a Galaxy apollo for a while I grew to hate touchwiz with a passion.

Overall I am very happy with it it doesn't feel like a "stop gap device" to me, I do miss the Dial and Hang-up buttons from HD2 though only gripe is that for a "multi-media" phone the sound on loudspeaker isn't that loud for music which i use a lot and is no better than my old Nokia 6234 quality wise.
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
Thanks for this. Good insight into the phone. I did not do enough research into the hd2 when i got it so this helps me in assessing a real-time review. Even though i am a bit disappointed in the current specs of the Sensation (because I know htc can do better), it does not mean that I don't think it is a good phone. I really want to see it in the stores over here when its released.
[HTC Sensation] craigkahn:
Question for you: my HD2 washes out in direct sunlight. It's pretty much unreadable. How does the Sensation compare? Also, one thing I love about the HD2 is the fact that I can lay it down on its face and the speakerphone is activated. I haven't seen any reviews that mention this feature on the Sensation. Does it exist?
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
You know I've seen a lot of people complain about the internal storage. There's 4 GB inside, but only 1 GB is user accessible. But...look at the Thunderbolt. There's 8 GB inside, but only 2.8 GB is user accessible. I think the same goes for the SGS II. 2 GB is actually seen as the phones storage while the rest is partitioned off as a microSD card.
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
yes, that feature is in the phone.
[HTC Sensation] Stone Cold:
Am I reading correctly? You've already pre-ordered the Sensation from T-Mobile USA? How? And, BTW, your post was spot on IMHO...

Yeah, *I'm* Stone Cold...
[HTC Sensation] phi11ip:
I've upgraded from a Hero, so I absolutely love mine! Better screen, so much faster, looks nicer, lovely video and pictures, better Wi-Fi connectivity.. and I've got it on a pretty tasty deal!

If you stop comparing it to others you'll find that it's a pretty awesome phone. Does everything I want it to, to be honest. It's only when you sit there and start comparing to others that you'll start to pick away at it. The screen is generally really good. It's only when some people sit there and start comparing that they'll soon start describing the screen as 'rubbish' because it's... different to others.

I have noticed a teeny bit of not-so-smooth movement when using some apps, but that could just be because it's the first release of the firmware. Everyone who has a Hero will know what that was like on it's 1.5 release!
[HTC Sensation] :
In my opinion small RAM in most HTC products is a calculated strategy. Yes, they are showing a lot of customer care and recently back down on the bootloader locking. But that doesn't mean they will not try to find other ways to sell more handsets to their existing cutomers. Unlike Motorola HTC banks on their existing customers as well as new customers.

The strategy is very simple... they build handsets with enough memory according to the Android requirements at the time of manufacturing. If next major version of Android requires more memory then they simply claim your handsets are not compatible hence have to buy a new one.

Also HTC Sense is HTC's card in this same strategy too. HTC fans glorified the Sense all for free and now HTC can use that card to say if you want the next version of Sense you have to buy our new handsets.

I think people will get eventually frustrated with tactics like that and hold to their handsets for much longer. However, in the mean while companies will find new tactics to depart you from your money.

Every time I'm on the market for a new handset I always fail to pick HTC because of the things the thread's autother said, more or less. The one handset I really loved to own was the HD2 but didn't get it because of its OS.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
+1. IMO it's a very Apple-esque strategy, or at least it's becoming more similar to Apple. Really hope they don't continue. Always have liked HTC. :)
[HTC Sensation] zkyevolved:
I saw the opposite, that battery life was way worse than the SGS2. It really does depend on the user. One thing is for sure, the SGS2 will die faster if you leave it on an all white screen! haha.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
Same, as if you leave the Sensation on an all black screen! :p
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
the sensation guard dog is gone and i've noticed more and more sgs2 owners coming to state their claim... hmmm very funny to me. but both phones have their ups and downs and its all down to experiences and personal preference to both devices so if you get the sensation be happy and if you got the sgs2 be happy they are both ahead of the others. lets all shake hands and enjoy our phones and not have this back and forth
[HTC Sensation] fireblade893:
Q1 - It is better than the HD2 however its still not that good( no LCD is btw and Super OLED aren't perfect either)

Q2 - Yes it has that feature I just tried it now, when a call is active lie the phone on it's face and the loudspeaker turns on , pick the phone back up and it returns the sound to the earpiece.

Another thing it does like HD2 on WM is mini vibrate when call is connected , I really like this so I can keep phone away from head till someone is there:D
[HTC Sensation] phi11ip:
If you get a Sensation and nothing else then you'll be happy.

If you get a SGSII and nothing else then you'll also be happy.

Lots of happy people.

Although if you've still got a 3310 then we're all very jealous of your battery life.
[HTC Sensation] aruninoc:
HTC is not competing with iPhone, that's what GS2 is doing. HTC is only trying to be 2nd best in the market and they achieve this with Sensation..
[HTC Sensation] Maedhros:
So... you leave your keyboard on Long enough to get burn in?

Lol... My friend with a Nexus1 Leaves his phone on all night.

No Burn in since he got it.

+1 unfortunately they have so many BLIND fan boys who cant realise they are buying second best.

Could not have agreed more. People who used HTC from Winmobile days can see that HTC has used this trick in the past! I thought with their switch to Android they had changed... Appears to not be true anymore.

Bro... I have owned a NEW HTC Phone EVERY YEAR. Most ppl posting here are owners of HTC devices.

I would not be happy with a SGS2. I would be even LESS HAPPY with the Sensation. THAT is what I am sad about. I fear HTC falling into their old habbit of Releasing Good Phone... Garbage Phone... Good phone... Garbage Phone.

EDIT: Evo3D IS A MUCH better phone then the Sensation simply because of the 3D features.