yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android SD Development] pepe_palotes:
Some feedback

Hi to everybody

Firstly, big thanks to the OP and all the developers and contributors that make this possible. Also to HTC since the base rom is beautiful.

Second, I just want to share my experience with this rom in order to help developers and other users. Actually I have tried 8.1 and 8.5:

About 8.1:

The rom is some times fast and very responsive but some times very very slow and unresponsive. I'm not a developer but I think this unresponsive behaviour is related with ram management.

Weather animation not fluid.

No graphic glitches

I changed the kernel to hastarin 8.5.1 but the behaviour was exactically the same.

Not eligible, imho, for daily use. I installed it last weekend and I've been trying to use it during all this week.

About 8.5:

I kept the data.img from 8.1 (I just wanted to do a fast trial of this update).

After several reboots, set up of accounts and installation of apps, rom is stabilised and keeps fast and responsive. For the moment I have had very sporadic unrresponsive situations.

Weather animation not fluid yet.

I have graphic glitches although not continuously.

I miss some widgets and apps I normally use and were present in 8.1.

I have several FC just after reboot. I accept them and no problems.

Conclusion, I am happier with 8.5 and very optimistic with the future to come after this version.

Thanks again to the main developer and contributors for this hard and fruitful work.

Best regards,

P_P

Some information about my HD2 and the way I use it:

Model: HD2 Leo (512) + 8gb class 2 sandisk card

Carrier: Telefonica

Magldr installed, booting AD from SD

WPH7 (7392) installed in NAND

Main account: exchange activesync (>800 contacts, many emails & app.)

More than 100 apps installed from Market.

I always (almost) make clean installations. After fist boot I reboot 2 o 3 times and then setup my accounts and restore the backups of my apps (>100 apps).

Apps are installed in the internal memory and that means that I usually have just arround 200 Mb free.

My daily use rom since April 2011 is mdeejay froyo hd v4.6 with hastarin 8.6.
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
hey box sorry but I have another coupple of question for you !

1) where can I find kernel r12.4

2) How can I eneble 3d home gsensor and color animation while scrolling up/down on app menu

3) I haven't understood what 03ramtweaks is ( it's an app ? )

Also I have noted 2 things, with GFX fix animations seems more or less equal in my opinion... if there is some lags I think it's the kernel...

Secondo I have removed the japaness file manager ( I think that for the majority of people isn't very usuful considering that there are idiograms ) and I have install this https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rhmsoft.fm&feature=more_from_developer that seems better to me !

Please let me know !
[HD2 Android SD Development] son70:
Bmax. Great v8.5. Already use for 1 day.

Faster n better than v8.1

A bit lag. Sometimes while dialing, or when unlocking the phone lock

Anyway to fix it? There is a fix-lag patch posted somewhere in

The forum, can it be used?

THank you very much. Good job
[HD2 Android SD Development] zolika1:
thanks hica i have formated sd card form this formater and everything ok . i have next problem worked on the phone all night and everything was fine.morning I received a message on your phone calls and the phone was working only a blank screen. battery back up to reboot with no network after him!
[HD2 Android SD Development] AKRRKA:
Camera realy record 720p: 1280×720???
[HD2 Android SD Development] SpiriTwin:
Same for me, The SD card works fine with WM6.5 and the previous version 8.1. And already scanned by Windows and no errors. Also, I'm using the SD version ?!!

+ WIFI Disconnection

+ HTC Sense force close

Magldr doesn't support WM6.5, I want to use WM6.5 and Android together.

I delete the old v8.1 folder, and use a new data file.
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
ya kernel Ty 12.4 wifi fixed

Solutions available today is much better than the previous

Previous versions will be great indeed

i want update all my rom for best Solutions
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
No , not work , As the framework.jar is different
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
استعمل ملف

data.img

من الاصدار القديم

وجربه مع ملفات الروم الجديدة ... إذا صادفت مشاكل فيجب التنصيب من جديد

العربية مدعومة في الاصدار الاخير ولكني نسيت تغيير الخط فقط ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
system/media/weather
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
thanks for feedback

Note

Sense 3 consumes a lot of RAM when you open the browser(30 ~ 80) mb or open settings (6 ~ 30) mb ...

And you must use taskkill for free rame (127 - 180) mb

Rom with full app system = 80 or 90 mb free ! So I deleted more app for free ram
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
- i set link for kernel ty12.4 in post2 :http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=742973&d=1318017690

- it from setting /display ... but new rom v8.5 original RUU not have 3d home in setting ... old v8.1 ya can do it ...

- (03ramtweaks) it script not app ... open & edit with root explore

-file manger ok for English but japaness with other lang ... to delete ... go (data/app/hFileManager.apk
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
-for some lag ... try kernel ty r12.4 ... i set in post2
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
ya can recored 720p but lag + poor Q ... Software yes but not hardware
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
try format with this tool http://www.mediafire.com/?3241tjhwd8o2vc3

& try magldr with kernel Ty r12.4 ... i set link in post 2
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
If you see that I answered your questions or inquiries

I hope set thanks for me ...

Because this encourages me to pursue development for the better

:D
[HD2 Android SD Development] frajdek:
Hi Boxmax,

Thank you for this excellent rom! It's much better then v8.1 and I'm finally able to move from your GS rom. The v8.5 is good for daily use.

Thanks for not including the gfx fix in the rom - this way it's much quicker. If any one want that fix it can be apllied easily :)

I suggest to do not use any task killer, but to use the supercharger script instead. I suggest options 8 or 9 and then 11 - with this the rom really flies, no lag or sense reaload at all!

One request - I miss the HTC stock program and widget - can you provide this the same way as you did with facebook and twitter, please?
[HD2 Android SD Development] driftin:
This build was looking promising for my daily, however I ran into a snag... Normal usage was responsive enough, but anytime someone called, the phone would hang and I couldn't answer! Then I started to get Sense reloads anytime I launched an app, as soon as I exited it would be a few mins starting at the white HTC screen...
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
try change kernel to Ty r12.4 ... link kernel in post 2
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
:)

copy to system/app
[HD2 Android SD Development] msdn70:
Kernel Ty 12.4

Hi Guys,

Anyone try Kernel Ty 12.4 with v8.5 ?? :confused:

please share your try with us..

TIA
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
I'm trying right now !
[HD2 Android SD Development] Visentinel:
I searched the thread for LCD Density and came up dry...

I have set the density to 192 in the build.prop but the rom seems to ignore it !?

Where else in this build do i set the LCD Density ?
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
Hi !

I have tried kernel r12.4 well there is no confront, it's very very faster...

Actually I'm sorry to say this because 3dak is working hard and he's doing this specifically for the SD development but I think that it still need some time !
[HD2 Android SD Development] lakeman:
There is 1000 thanks for you !

Hope this encourages you in this work.

Regards!
[HD2 Android SD Development] msdn70:
According to your experiment I will install it..

Thanks for your help..:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Visentinel:
I found there is also a screen density setting in default.prop but changing that also doesnt work.. wow! I have never seen anything like it before. Its just meant to be build.prop that sets this.

---------- Post added at 08:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:34 PM ----------

Alright Crisis Averted :D

Its in the INITRD

Thankfully 7-zip is able to edit .gz Files so using notepad++ offcourse the LCD Density is been passed via Busybox.

Ahhh.. so much better, looks so much nicer with 192 :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android SD Development] jola19:
Hi Boxmax,

Some feedback about the 8.5/SD/without GFX

-Overall speed really good, smooth and fast, except the android market which takes about 1 sec to load.

- No glitches without the fix except sometimes on dialer and android market but nothing, for example, in the taskbar. So it's ok for me and far better than the other because the weather widget works properly (no transparency, contrary to other builds).

- Lockscreen perfect.

- Weather anim sometimes doesn't launch after the device is unlocked, but it"s ok.

- In weather widget (home screen) only the moon anim doesn't display anything, but it's not really a problem. That's why I was asking about the location off the anim, because V9 s 3.0 (other build) had them all.

- On/off anim doesn't work.

- Sometimes wake up lag, sometimes not.

- Apps from android market are perfectly smooth, absolutely no lag.

- GPS PERFECT ! For me it's the first time (compared to other builds). I do get the signal within one or to secs --> Google nav is back :-)

- Wifi works perfectly.

- No FC after a few reboots.

- After installing 30/40 apps still no lag.

Thanks for the good work.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Visentinel:
+ 1

Also i fixed the periodical laggyness of the phone by using tytung kernel and swapper2 off market. 100mb swap with swappiness on 60.

Also I am using a class 8 Kingston 8GB card, I know the phone only can do a max of class6 speed, but yeah anything less than class6 speeds is chaos.
[HD2 Android SD Development] maneken25:
this will sound maybe strange, why on this build isnt google talk app?
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Congratulation BoxmaX U break 1005 mark !! i finish my 5 thank today :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
I think that box removed it to gain more free ram..
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
i want see you 4999 ... maybe after 1 year or 2 :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
Hi folks !

Some updates ! I have run some test trying 3dak, tytung r12.4 and hastarian kernel from post 2 on first page ( 8.1 section ) and this is what I came out :

1) Best kernel is hastarian ( is old but still rocking ) it's faster and it maintein its speed during usage which is the most important thing

2) Tytung kernel is fast ( anyway less than hastarian ) at start or when there are no app running in background, its speed fall drammaticaly when you start launching app, indeed you need to use task killer every 3 seconds. Also browser is unsuble ( lags very very much )

3) 3dak is the slower one but,anyway, it maintain its slow speed more or less during usage so in this aspect is better than tytung

So at the end I keep hastarian for obvius reason, anyway as it's an old kernel I hope that 3dak will eventually be better as it's under development and more important is for SD. Anyway I suggest to follow hastarian like a base for further development !
[HD2 Android SD Development] msdn70:
Thanks for your feedback..

Which hastarian version you test? and from where can I get it?:confused:

TIA
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
it's on post number 2 here on this thread
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
but kernel h8.6 not support Magldr ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
I see, didn't know about this because I use windows mobile as nand sysmte ( don't like WP7 ) ...

but this is hastaria 8.5.1 or 8.6 : - Kernel H8.5.1 better v8.6 ... http://www.mediafire.com/?mte7tyskccukrnh ?

never understood this...
[HD2 Android SD Development] decebal12345:
Me neither.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Visentinel:
This rom uses ppp

Any way to use rmnet Boxmax??

My phone hates ppp, i get issues, on my way to work it hotreboot lol...
[HD2 Android SD Development] darkony:
what about this kernel

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1233125

I use it on BoxmaX S3.5 v3.1

can you compare it with these 3 above, is it better or worse ?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Visentinel:
It was very slow, not cpu wise just IO wise, constantly getting hung up on IO, could see the difference on bootup in logcat.
[HD2 Android SD Development] darkony:
Is that with latest ver or before ?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Visentinel:
With latest btfix 1.8.3
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
as I get some times I'll test it ( probably this week-end ) anyway I think that it's more a nand-kernel...if you want speed, for now, go for the hastarian !

---------- Post added at 08:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:46 AM ----------

Hi box !

I have to ask you a favor ! Could you please pass me the new gallery and music fixed in apk form ? I don't care about camera ( I can always use windows mobile for that ) and also I want to see if using a third-party app for the camera can fix the problem !
[HD2 Android SD Development] msdn70:
Are you sure that Kernel Ty 12.4 is working fine!!

because after installing it on v8.5 my hd2 go to deep sleep today morning

second my bt headset was not connecting at all..

did you test bt and the deep sleep issues?
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
No actually I haven't tested with bt anyway if you are on Windows Mobile on nand I suggest you to use hastarian kernel
[HD2 Android SD Development] benlm72:
Hi, and thank's for this feedback. For me, tytung r12 with KS 8.1 is the more stable kernel (always almost the same perfs in time AND data connexion). With Hastarin kernel, I have no data connexion : do you have the same problem ? Do you have a fix ?
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
3g data connection works in my case with hastarian with no fix. Only issue ( but this is indipendent from kernel, also it happen in almost every sense rom that I have tried ) is that auto-updates doesn't work when signal is very low..
[HD2 Android SD Development] sly2:
i test it with rafpigna 1.9 kernel (other kernels dont want to work well...) and all works, but wifi. when i switch wifi on, i get allways reboot... :(

i tryed to fix permissions and changed directly the attributes of wpa_supplicant to 777, but this dont help me... i tryed with other wpa_supplicant but without success :(

can anyone help me?

regards

Sly
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
must clean old kernel ...

from :

lib\modules ... del all first & copy new

etc\init.d ... del (01_modules) & copy new (01modules)
[HD2 Android SD Development] jpl69:
Can you please provide us with rafpigna 1.9 kernel for this magldr sd version please ?
[HD2 Android SD Development] msdn70:
Still can't find hastarian kernel in the 2nd post:confused:

could you please provide the link?

by the way did you test it with:

1. bt

2. GPS

3. Wifi

4. Mobile network

5. Browsing Speed

TIA

MSDN
[HD2 Android SD Development] kajos:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mte7tyskccukrnh

That's all working with it;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
mhm I have noted that above browser and settings which consumes a lot of ram also mail application from htc is another ram drainer, almost 20 mb !!! it's too much !!
[HD2 Android SD Development] mikemol:
finally was able to boot 8.5

I tried many times to boot it on 3dak kernel and tried to boot it with tytung kernel but it never booted for me. Just now saw that hastrain kernel is up for download so I decided to give it a try too and success - I finally booted 8.5. It wouldn't boot on my phone on any of the other kernels. That's great. I haven't played with it yet to see what's working and what's not but at least it booted and now I can play with it.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Visentinel:
Hi Boxmax, i noticed you might of missed or avoided my question on PPP, i want to switch it over to rmnet.

I posted a few times about lcd density and got no replies either, I had to figure it out myself.

I'd really appreciate to be noticed, please. I did find lcd density is set in initrd, i however can't find where data type is set.
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
- i build for ppp ... if you want rmnet must change something on init.rc & etc/ppp folder ...

- for lcd density change from build.prop in folder system

ro.sf.lcd_density=240

use root explore for edit ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] Visentinel:
Ok for RMNET, Il check that out

But your comment on LCD Density is wrong, I can change it in Build.prop until im blue in the face it never worked, the LCD Density is apparently written in build.prop and default.prop but changing in both files does nothing... it actually only changed to 192 when I changed it in the INITRD file within INITRD.GZ in the sd-card android folder alongside the kernel zImage
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
mmm

you try change from startup.txt ???

set this line :

set cmdline "rel_path=Android lcd_density=240"
[HD2 Android SD Development] Visentinel:
Nah, startup.txt only works if booting from winmo and using haret

I use magldr to boot, much faster :) (Also my phones internal NAND has degraded with so many bad blocks I actually cant boot any roms properly, not even winmo roms)

While i was at it in the INITRD i also changed the GPS Zone to "au"

Something cool you might be able to do is find out how Rafpigna used a config.txt to still be able to pass commands across when users boot with MAGLDR.
[HD2 Android SD Development] desprez:
SD Card unmount!!!

Hi Boxmax,

thanks for your work.

I've installed your rom to SD. All work fine, but there is a strange problem:

the SD seems unmount.

In the status bar it show: "SD Card damaged. please format"

If I browse the phone, I find the sd and I can see all the file, photo, directory,...

But if I make a photo it say: "please install an SD Card"

If I use photo gallery it doesn't show/find any photo,... and so on.

Ane suggest?

Desprez
[HD2 Android SD Development] unthoughtknown:
Hi there, this is pretty much the rom I'd like to use, maybe you can help me tuning it a little bit.

Im using everything out of the box, on a fresh SD (dont know what class) and the latest HTC stock rom.

Most of the camera effects are not working (a photo is taken but the effect isnt applied). Further toying with the effects caused a hard freeze. Dont mind it though, just reporting.

I have severe gfx glitches all over the screen that come and go. I downloaded the GFX fix but I don't know how to install it :confused:. Im a noob.

The wakeup time with this rom varries a lot. It goes from instantaiously (faster than my old NAND installation) to 15 seconds. Same goes for responsiveness. Sometimes the handling is really laggy with major delays. Should I try switching the kernel? Whatever this means :S

Standby battery usage is 7ma after a fresh boot and ~50ma after waking it up a couple of times (not running any apps in particualar). But I assume this is a SD specific problem?

Thanks for your patience

Chris
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
SD Card Not Working - Format SD with this tool http://www.mediafire.com/?3241tjhwd8o2vc3
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
for install gfx glitches :

copy folder root to folder android & restart full ...

if have laggy update kernel to ty r12.4

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=742973&d=1318017690

how to ?

copy zimage + folder root+update to folder Android & restart
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
try 3dak_r3.4 beta1 SLQB memory allocator and BFQ IO scheduler version on sense build and let me know test result.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18315081&postcount=87
[HD2 Android SD Development] desprez:
Thank you for your prompt reply.

I've allready make this, but when it finish the SD is UnFormat.

later i try to another pc.

Thank you
[HD2 Android SD Development] rafu007:
Has anyone tried the new 3dak kernals? Both seem to be working ok on v8.5 WiFi is ok so is the speed

What the the experts mccm and boxmax say?
[HD2 Android SD Development] unthoughtknown:
Thank you Sir!

One last question: After applying the gfx fix (working!), the USB to PC ceiced operation. (Not getting a popup when I plug it in, can't access SD card). I moved the gfx patch via USB to PC on the SD card just 2 minutes earlier. Is that supposed to happen or could I have changed anything else which I wasn't aware of? Can't think of anything though, I merely rebootet the phone after moving the patch onto the SD still within the phone.

Thank you for your help.
[HD2 Android SD Development] msdn70:
Excuse me but what is the difference between R3.4beta1 BFQ and R3.4beta1 CFQ

build?:confused:

TIA
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
After test both Kernel New on (boxmaX KS v8.6 Soon UP) :

- (CFQ) better then (BFQ)

- Result Quadrant : (CFQ= 2076) ... (BFQ=1937) .

- both (CFQ + BFQ) Slow boot & some lag first ... need 5 ~ 7 m for stable

- must use (wpa_supplicant) for work wifi
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
Hi box !

Have you red my messages ?!?

For kernels I still suggest hastarian as there is no match..it's faster !
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
ya i read :) & thanks for Feedback

but i think must dev DesireHD GB 2.3.5 for me it better & Little bug
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
so you are not going to use the sense core of the rom I have tested ?

Honestly I think that the pyramid ROM offers much more possibility exepecialy regarding speed
[HD2 Android SD Development] mikemol:
Well, after testing hastrain kernel I'm back to another build as with hastrain my location wouldn't get updated so the weather for my location wouldn't update. Also data seemed not to work too well. I was able to add an exchange account but no matter how many times I tried I couldn't add google account - it kept saying that it couldn't contact Google servers. I tried that on WiFi connection and the same result. I tried again now that I was able to boot the build on hastrain kernel to update it to Tytung kernel - and just like before - the phone didn't boot even after a one hour wait. I couldn't boot it on 3dak kernel either so unfortunately I'm back to Transformer build.

Everybody else seems to be able to boot this rom so maybe it's just my phone that doesn't want to boot it. :(
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
quite strange, BFQ should be faster than CFQ:FYI

konsole startup - fast disk - BFQ vs CFQ

Background workload | Latency [sec] | Agg. thr [MB/s]

---------------------------------------------------------

10r-seq | 2.88 vs 26.03 | 48 vs 58

5r5w-seq | 2.59 vs 14.18 | 71 vs 57

10r-rand | 2.87 vs 22.36 | 5.5 vs 1.5

5r5w-rand | 2.82 vs 13.03 | 5.8 vs 2.0

The latency drop is evident. The 9-times lower latency with 10r-seq is

however paid with a 20% loss of aggregated throughput, because with

this highly sequential workload the throughput fall is more pronounced

as the seeky pattern of konsole is favoured. In the other three cases

the aggregated throughput is always higher even if the latency is at

least 4.6 times lower.

http://algo.ing.unimo.it/people/paolo/disk_sched/comparison.php

BFQ and CFQ, pls just check the I/O score,thanks.
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
i try again test only I/O

Result I/O score : (BFQ = 672) .... (CFQ = 729)
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
on MIUI build BFQ IO is 29xx something, CFQ IO is 24xx something.

BFQ is better than CFQ on small files and video streaming test
[HD2 Android SD Development] TruePlaya:
Strange problem

Hi!

For me the ROM is working fine with shipped kernel.

Only problem I have is that when call is incoming it only shows phone number, not the name of the contact. After call is finished system asks me if I want to store the number. But then in calls history I see the contact name.

I´m using KS8.5 with standard kernel. Data-file was taken from KS8.1.

Error occurs when phone is turned off an call is coming in.

Any suggestions?
[HD2 Android SD Development] decebal12345:
I have problem myself with calls. When a call is finish, the phone freeze (not all the time) and I solve the problem only with battery out.