yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
You know, I think I'll hold off on trying to get this port to work for now. I think there will be more hope for the phone after it get it's GB update.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Mattix724:
Don't wait around for Kyocera to make an update. Try asking a developer to help you guys build a working CWM Recovery.

Do you think us Zio owners are going to twiddle our thumbs and wait around for Kyocera on a gingerbread update?... Heck no!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
The devs seem like they don't want anything to do with the phone. I'm still trying though.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] es0tericcha0s:
I came across this phone the other day and it intrigued me. The fact there is no development on it definitely put a halt to my want for it though. I was kicking around a few ideas with a friend though, and he suggested that if you are rooted already (for the busybox) to run the terminal command:

busybox dd if=/dev/block/mtdblock7 of=/sdcard/recovery.img

Said it might work better than the cat command that was tried earlier in the thread. My understanding is that it creates a direct clone of the file which you could then split up and rebuild for smaller sizes.

Just a thought. Hate to see enthusiasts without support. This stuff is a little beyond me though. I am a themer... ;)

Good luck!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
Thanks.

I've done that but I really haven't had much luck with porting CWM for it. Can't build it on 32 bit Ubuntu supposedly. I'll have to do a clean install of it.

Just wondering, where did you learn to theme? Almost everyone here says the Kitchen.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] es0tericcha0s:
Ah well, it was worth a shot. Actually, my buddy that told me that is pretty good at making recoveries himself. I could introduce you two and maybe you could figure it out together. He has built his own series of recoveries called RZR. I actually prefer using it on my D1 as opposed to CWM. It's much faster and has quite a few nice options. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ra...-based-update-zips-battery-charging-more.html He has been working on the code of his program to include support for more devices, so depending on what kind of set up this phone needs, he might be able to put something together.

As far as theming, well...I lost my job last October and didn't have much to do so I read a lot here and at Droidforums and spent a lot of time messing around with GIMP. I created a theme called Infinite Cha0s: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1042468 and the latest thing I have been working on will include these icons and wallpaper: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9903887/AndroidIcons/Screenie2.png I took awhile off and have just recently started messing around with it again and now am trying to learn the Theme Chooser method. But if you have questions or whatever, hit me up on Talk (if you use it, that is...) using this screen name.

PS - Are you sure you can't build on 32 bit? I know when I had contemplated learning how to build roms, Gingerbread dropped and it needed 64 bit but some people made a patch to make it work. Surely they would have done so with this too...?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
I'll have to check it out once my new phone comes in, new update bricked it somehow. :/
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] es0tericcha0s:
Ugh. That sucks man. Was it the Gingerbread update? I had read that was supposed to drop on the 1st. And I assume that means that Kyocera doesn't have a back up plan with that kind of thing such as HTC (RUU), Motorola (SBF), or Samsung (Odin/Heimdall) ? Lame... Such a great idea seems wasted on a company that feels like they are half assin it... I realize they have only recently got into the Android game, in the grand scheme of things, but let's do some Market research, right? ;)

PS. I was too lazy to keep doing research to make sure if this is all that is needed, but I found this about compiling CWM on 32 bit:

"All you should have to do is remove these packages from the install line: g++-multilib lib32z1-dev lib32ncurses5-dev lib32readline5-dev gcc-4.3-multilib g++-4.3-multilib".
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bubby323:
I need people with the Echo to join me on Freenode, channel #kyocera-echo .
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] evilvoice:
Jamin13, I am really interested in getting a recovery image for the Echo as I believe once that is done, the development for it will blow up. A couple of notes that I would like to confer with you on...

1. when you run cat /proc/mtd do you get that recovery is on mtd6 or mtd7 because mine is mtd6

2. If you got it on mtd6 and ran a cat to output to recovery.img, is that when you got zero files, or was it for mtd7? I only ask because people are talking about mtd7 in commands, when our device is mtd6 for recovery

3. There is a fastboot for our device. If you root the device and adb shell into it, run the command reboot bootloader. When it comes up with the orange light, run fastboot devices...it should have a ?. To test, run fastboot reboot and it should reboot the device. This is off the top of my head, but i think that is the command.

Let me know, and I will try doing things myself also. Good Luck.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
I have an image, just have to test it. I didn't know it was fastboot though.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
Also, 6 is the recovery.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] evilvoice:
If you need any testers, I will test too...I am trying to do this for my wife's phone. She really likes it, and I would like to build a custom rom as well as customizing some of the apps like I did on the Hero. Ive already done some edits to the actual device like upgrading swype to 3.0 beta (though there is a screen size error), and removing some of the demo games...not quite as clean as building a rom, but still doable, I guess.

One huge issue I have with this device is WHERE IN THE HELL IS MY SPRINT VISUAL VOICEMAIL???????? Sorry for the caps, but seriously, I did not think Sprint released a device without that.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
It didn't work. D:

Not completely sure why but I was able to restore the stock recovery.

The fastboot commands do work, just have the drivers auto install first.

Also, I do believe it could have been because of I built it using the Gingerbread build. :P
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] evilvoice:
Could be, but I thought the recovery was independent of what system was installed on your phone...I wonder if Koush, since we have the recovery image, could compile a CWM for the Echo now. You are definitely getting closer on getting this done and I applaud you. I wish I knew more about these things to give you a hand, but sadly, this is out of my realm.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
He could but I can't get in contact with him.

Honestly, I don't know much about what I'm doing but I'm getting an understanding of it.

I'll probably try to build the Froyo one later.

We could wait for the "fixed" Gingerbread to come out but who knows when that will be? :p
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] markawashington:
Anything I can do to help? This is no joke. I have the evo epic now echo and this is by far the better phone. Just wish it had some stuff modded.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
Well with the 2.3.4 Gingerbread update, most of the root exploits seem to have been patched. Gingerbreak, z4, SuperOneClick, have all failed to root the phones.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] evilvoice:
Well, that definitely sucks. I know most wont work because we are on GB now, and they worked on Froyo. Looks like this is a huge waiting game for the Echo. I have not decided yet, but I am honestly thinking about just customizing the rom on the phone instead of trying to build one on the pc - lots of work. I really wanted to try out GB on her phone...can you do a system dump? Also, how are you doing the dump? By using dd? Id like to get my hands on the update before it rolls out to the phone, see if there is anything I can get started on while others are working on the root/recovery.

Side note: We may need to talk to the people who got root on the Evo 3D for the possibility of getting it to work for the Echo.

Also, nice to see you havent given up on the phone. I try to check back occasionally to see if there has been any new developments, especially with GB now available, but without a dedicated forum, it is hard to stay on top of all the threads that are in different forums. Hope this gets some developer support so xda will make a subforum
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
I used a couple different methods to get the system dump. I'm not sure if I'll be able to pull it off anymore but I'll try to.

No harm in asking them I suppose, who were the ones who got root for the EVO 3D?

A forum for the Echo probably won't happen for the sole fact that we've already tried when the Echo first came out and there still is no forum. Might need to try somewhere else to contact the Echo users.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] myechophone:
Jaimin13: Lets not loose hope immediately. Now that GB has come over, lots of good updates and the phone is in much better state now...

Hopefully, someone can root GB and share with the community of Echo Users.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] contradude:
There won't be an Echo forum until there is a chance for someone to make a custom rom, which requires a working recovery first.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
With the update, the partitions changed I think.

Sent from my Kyocera Echo.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] saridnour:
With the lack of a Echo forum, these guys opened one up for themselves over at "Hear the Ech". Know we are not suposed to place links to other sites but since this is not a supported device here I hope thi will be allowed: heartheecho.webs.com

Maybe if we get enough people looking at this there a forum here can get started? I do like the "all the devices under one roof" idea of this site.

---------- Post added at 02:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:43 PM ----------

Also using the methods above about recovery. Is there a way to use a recovery image on a echo running GB to go back to Froyo? I really need to get back to root at least until the rest gets figured out.

big THANKS,

saridnour
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mingolianbeef:
Thank you :-))

Thanks so much for getting our name out there! But like sardinour said, we are trying to get the Echo community together from various forums and other places in order to find a way to get root for this device man! Please come and join, its absolutely free! and its for ppl like you guys that want to get the most out of your echo! We are constantly working, I am flashing different phone's recoveries like wild trying to see if one will work on the echo (this is like walking over a cliff because it could brick my device, which shows you how committed I am to this) Like I said we are all trying to get to an ultimate goal, and XDA doesnt take us seriously (not bashing XDA, because I love this site man) So head on over to Hear the Echo, sign up, do forum posts, and get our name out there!

P.S. - We are in need of donations (trying to get a lot more bandwidth for more users and lose the ".webs" piece to the site name) so if you want to buy me a phone case lol, we welcome them 100% of the way!

Thanks for the support,

Ognimnella
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Mattix724:
You guys don't have root? Have you tried the SuperOneClick root method yet?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dre89:
2.3.4 is patched against it, we're trying to find a new exploit we can use
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] contradude:
I'm going to take the time tonight to attempt a quick and dirty port of cwm recovery. Then all we have to do is make an optimized stock rom that has the root in the kernel.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
Good luck man, hope it works. :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chrystal0925:
I've got mine rooted on 2.3.4 I was curious I tried going into recovery which of coarse didn't work but in cache/recovery I have a recovery log.. also in system/bin I have a recovery in there .. where exactly would or should the recovery image be?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] saridnour:
Just a few notes.

- The memory mapping has NOT changed from Foyo to GB

- I get recovery (well fastboot) by pressing power + vol up

- Power + vol down does nothing but boot the os, anyone else see this?

- Power + vol up & vol down opens a com channel with the pc over usb. Maybe for a flashing app like odin or QPST/QXDM?

- the fastboot command " fastboot boot recovery.img " Should load and run the image from memory vs flashing (for testing).

- When I use fastboot and boot an image, it goes through the cycle and says done, then rebooting and done.. but no reboot. Make sme question if things are really being written or sent to the device?

- ADB commnad "adb reboot recovery" will boot the device into another recovery mode. The screen shows an "!" with an android. Fastboot & ADB commnads do not work and the pc loads a mass storage driver that is not mounted. Other button presses seem to have no affect.

I'm tempted to do a flash from fastboot " fastboot flash system system.tar " and see if it takes.. not sure if its correct or not but "sound" like it could be to revert to froyo (system.tar from a froyo device). Anyone have a voice on the good and bad of this or a other solution to get the system.tar flashed back on the device? Fastboot boot system.tar does shoe "creating boot image", downloading.., Okay.. botting.. and ok but just doesnt do anything. But this could be becuase the tar is invalid and it can't boot? Again ideads? Feedback? Anything ;)

Posting most of my tinkering over at heartheech.webs.com

-saridnour
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chrystal0925:
I can't post over there yet but I tried placing recovery from the rom dump into sbin. Then tried from rom mngr to boot recovery it went to kyocera then to the triangle ! android.. I'm not sure what else to try
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] myechophone:
How did you get the root on 2.3.4? Please share information!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chrystal0925:
Honestly idk. Lol I got the phone it wanted to update not gingerbread so I did then I rooted temp.. then perm.. then I maually updated everything to gingerbread still having root.. I've re rooted even now it works I used z4root. But if I update super user I get all kinds of fc..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] saridnour:
Ok I've got a recovery mostly running on an epic. It's remote booted and CWM needs to have the keymapping corrected but it boots and runs. WE need more help. We hope you have answers, time, linux skills....

Take a look at:

http://heartheecho.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/6341977-clockworkmod-sort-of-working-need-some-help-?next=

and

http://heartheecho.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/6297643-what-i-know-so-far-notes-cmds-etc-

for status and requests for help.

Biggest things we need:

1- dev to rebuild clockwork app with correct keymapping. (or maybe a recovery from a device with only 3 keys)

2- info on creating a recovery as the current one will not boot on the phone when added to recovery partition but boots as a remote download. (signing maybe?) Also we can write the factory recovery without issue so do not think its a root or access issue.

-saridnour
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Mattix724:
If you guys have any luck with a working recovery please share your information with the Kyocera Zio community
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] contradude:
how did you manage to port CWM to the echo?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] saridnour:
a lot of reading and luck so far ;) lol. Its really just me so far. Details are over on the other site.

I also posted a tool to quickly root it in GB 2.3.4.

Still no luck booting the recovery from the device, just remote boots. but workn on it.

-saridnour
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
Yup, saridnour is doing a much better job than I could do. Glad he's working on it. :D

Keep up the hard work.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] saridnour:
it's alive..

It's Alive!

Now booting from the devices recovery partiton and menu selections via vol & power keys. built from cyan source tree. Just compiled so early in test. But wanted you guys to know. Head over to http://heartheecho.webs.com/apps/fo...kwork-recovery-now-on-echo-in-test-?page=last for more details. Its going out to Donation supporters first for test and will be released when I figure out the softkeys (home, etc).

Anyone know how to get this thing added to the XDA list of devices in the forum?

-saridnour
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
Keep it on HTE, there's no support here.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] contradude:
If we can get several custom roms going, there will probably be forums added.

Mega Congrats to saridnour on compiling cwm from cm source. That's what I was going to attempt when I finally pick up an echo.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jamin13:
Maybe, I don't think there's much of a chance though.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chrystal0925:
Check out my sig. For echo mods&themes!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hmartinus:
Anyone has the rom dump for 2006SP or 2002SP? I need to reflash my echo, because mine got google system framework error, already hard reset but the problem won't go away.

I have downloaded the kernel code and other code from Kyocera website, can it be flashed through SAR recovery image?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Major-Hardon:
can't seem to download the rom dump, it says it's restricted to the owner.
[HTC Inspire 4G] churro7:
Anyone know if simply placing an st sim will enable everything?

sent from planet snarf
[HTC Inspire 4G] reck32:
ST is said to use AT&T/T-Mobile towers for their GSM (Verizon for CDMA), however ST sims are locked to work only for ST devices.
[HTC Inspire 4G] akira02rex:
A few people here have done it. It requires an unlocked phone maybe? And changing of apns
[HTC Inspire 4G] reck32:
Some people have done it with unlocked phones, but could never pick up the signal even though the sim was accepted.

As far as I know, just placing an ST sim in other phones wont work. You'll have to take extra steps like what akira mentioned
[HTC Inspire 4G] entropism:
Here's how I did it:

- Purchase a ST Nokia e71 or Nokia 6790 for $200 and a $45 prepaid month

- Unlock your Inspire

- Activate your ST phone

- Put your ST SIM in your Inspire, put the Nokia in your desk drawer and keep it safe

- Calling will now work on the Inspire, but data won't, so connect to wifi.

- Download APN Backup & Restore from the market.

- Unzip the attached file and put it on your SD card. Instructions for APN Backup & Restore is below

- Any time you change the APNs, reboot your phone TWICE. I don't know why it needs to rebooted twice, but it does. Not a huge deal, so just do it.

APN Backup & Restore instructions, taken from Howardforums' member Kalinrs:

Here is how to insert the file in your phone:

1. Download and install the APN Backup and restore app.

2. Go to it and backup whatever APNs you have (it doesn't matter how many or how they are wrong). You do this, so that the app can create a folder on your internal memory for backups. This way you can put my file there. Once you back up, the following folder will be created. The folder is: /sdcard/APNBackupRestore

3. Now you can go to APN B&R again and Delete APNs.

4. Unzip the file I attached and then use a file manager or your computer to copy the "apns-MMSand3Gwork.xml" file and paste it into that "APNBackupRestore" folder. Once there you can go back to the program and hit restore and you should be able to see the file you inserted. Select file and hit ok.

5. Reboot the phone twice after that.

6. Once the phone is back up, go to your settings -> wireless -> mobile networks -> APNs and make sure you see both APNs - HOME and MMS. HOME should be the one that is selected although it probably shouldn't matter.

After this, your data and MMS should work perfectly. I'm currently getting between 2-5mb/s down, and about 2mb/s up, which is the usual AT&T speeds in my area.

Edit - Don't **** this up for everyone else. Your service will be cut off around 2GB of data, so don't abuse this to the point where they shut it off for everyone else
[HTC Inspire 4G] akira02rex:
But I thought straight talk was unlimited data?
[HTC Inspire 4G] churro7:
It is

sent from planet snarf
[HTC Inspire 4G] akira02rex:
Not according to the post above
[HTC Inspire 4G] SuicidemMyk:
sounds like a lot of money to fork out for just a st card :confused:
[HTC Inspire 4G] entropism:
It's unlimited data the same way T-Mobile has unlimited data, or Boost, or Virgin, etc are... There's a "don't abuse the service" limit that's not a set limit. Be smart and don't abuse it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] akira02rex:
Sounds like using St is pointless then.
[HTC Inspire 4G] entropism:
It's pointless to pay $45/month for something you have to pay $115/month for on AT&T? Somehow, I think not... Honestly, I don't see how you could rationally make that statement.
[HTC Inspire 4G] churro7:
Don't abuse unlimited for 45 is better than 2gb for 100

sent from planet snarf
[HTC Inspire 4G] newter55:
It really depends on your situation. For someone with a single line it likely makes sense but for my family plan it would cost almost the same per month and I would give up phone subsidies, nice warranty support, etc. Subsidies alone amount to about 15/mo/line, and that assumes you never talk them into an early upgrade.
[HTC Inspire 4G] akira02rex:
Exactly I have a family plan and already only pay $35/no.
[HTC Inspire 4G] PakAttack1994:
using straight talk on any unlocked phone is awesome, but like newter55 said, depends on the situation. Basically ideal for someone using a single line and does not want to be tied down to a contract. If you're using a family plan, prices are pretty cheap where you dont have to go through all this. Secondly, you dont necessarily have to buy a $200 e71 or 6790 from the store. Mind you its a lot easier if you do this, but you can buy a $50 parts phone on ebay, as long as the IMEI is clean and not tied to an account.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Simba501:
Damn, that's badass. #Winning
[HTC Inspire 4G] M.leonard2:
Can you use the other cheap Gsm Phones or does it have to be the nokia
[HTC Inspire 4G] Agoattamer:
It has to be the unbranded expensive nokia.
[HTC Inspire 4G] OneStepAhead:
The e71 is available for $99 now. I found this thread as I'm looking to hook up my Samsung Galaxy Note to Straight Talk. I'll have my e71 on Tuesday 12/14/2011 so I'll post back regarding how it went. Hope they haven't fixed this hole!
[HTC Inspire 4G] OneStepAhead:
Thanks for this guide, it worked perfectly for activating my Samsung Galaxy Note on the Straight Talk network. I may repost this information over on the Note forums as I know some people would find this useful.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Simba501:
That's awesome :).

Sent from my Galaxy SII
[HTC Inspire 4G] byevz:
I'm considering the E71 to Inspire route, but I see that ST now has two Android phones available directly. It seems that these use the Sprint network at 3G speeds though. Would the Inspire 4G be able to access the 4G network through ST (AT&T?)?