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[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
OK I don't think that anybody has raised this problem. If someone did than I'm sorry.

We (T Mobile USA costumers) have a big problem with this phone and and all 4g phones if this merger with AT&T goes trough. T Mobile uses 1700 and 2100 MHz AWS spectrum for 4G but AT&T wants to migrate all T Mobile costumers to 1900 MHz for 4G and use 1700 MHz for 4G LTE if the merger goes trough. I checked the specs on Phone Arena and it show this: UMTS:900, 1700/2100, 2100 for this phone and as you can see, it does not have 1900 MHz for 4G.Which means that this beautiful phone will became a brick more or less (no 3G or 4G). Anyone has any information about this? I mean T Mobile is really going about to sell a phone knowing this?

PS. I was against this merger even before finding out about this

here you can find a article about it http://goo.gl/JWIe9
[HTC Sensation] djdant:
I think even if the merger does happen it's gonna be at least a year or more before we see any changes & from what I heard they're gonna keep both spectrums for more compatibilities
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
and or give nice replacement phones...
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
I'm just hoping that the deal doesn't go through & tmous gets that $6bil to roll out LTE
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
No they don't have any plans to keep both spectrums. Read the article
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
Yeah keep dreaming that AT&T will give you a replacement phone
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
it was told to me by customer that not to worry that if the merger does go through tmobile customers will be given replacement phones of equal value
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
And you are going to make a purchase like this based on hopes? Because that is nothing more. A comment from a customer rep that don't know much. Everybody that calls T Mobile know that. You have to go to level 2 techs before they start knowing what they are talking about it. Anyway the official statement from AT&T does not say anything about replacing the phones and guess who will be in charge if the merger goes trough? I give you a hint, it will not be that costumer rep that is trying to sell you a phone.
[HTC Sensation] aoryx:
I've read that sensation 4g has an 1900 MHz

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14114232&postcount=2
[HTC Sensation] rameel:
guys.. its not like when at&t officially buys tmobile, there going to disconnect the 4g lines. thats going to take another 6-12 months AFTER they buy tmobile. so since they wont buy tmobile till next march. i dont see them cutting off 4g/3g internet for tmobile using phones till maybe October of 2012 at the least, probably even longer than that
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
sorin i can surely see you sir are a ****... plain and simple sorry but you push me to the point that i have to say what you are coming across as report me if you and even if this goes through and they dont want to give me a phone i will be getting a simple wireless sim card and rocking simple.. so im not as worried about anything.
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
since there's no upvotes/downvotes on xda, have a thanks
[HTC Sensation] russbustah:
Merger isn't going to happen for at least another year, and they won't start shutting off Tmos 4G until they run out of spectrum... Which means it'll probably be a year or two AFTER the merger is complete that they might need to start turning off 4G.

Somewhat curious if they shut off 4G if there's any consumer protection or fine print that would enable a customer to get out of contract early...
[HTC Sensation] Angelusz:
Also, we don't *all* have a problem. It's only you and the other tmous users that might have a problem. Personally, I can't imagine a big company like that doing something that stupid, they'd be breaching contracts and putting clients to a disadvantage en masse. The ensuing ****storm would probably bring them down.
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
That would be great but I read the specs on PhoneArena.com and it did not have 1900 MHz for the T Mobile version. I guess we will find out soon. If it has 1900 MHz would be great and would also mean that you can use this phone on T Mobile or AT&T and have 3G and 4G which would be a first. Anyway if Phone Arena specs are correct, nobody should by this phone in till we know if the merger goes trough.
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
there are a lot of people (consumer & government) that are seriously looking at this merger & saying it's bad. I'm really thinking & hoping that it's not going to go through.
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
Yes but you are just hopping that they wont do it sooner and why limit how long someone can use a phone that they paid good money for?
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
some of us in another thread were talking about how the EU htc site says one thing & the tmous packaging says another. Some of us think it may be a type on the packaging.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1093515
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
I don't see the need for you to use this language just because you don't agree with me. As far as your answer that doesnt make much sense: go ahead and use this phone with no 3G or 4G if you want but I won't.

Anyway this was just a conversation and an issue that was not raise but since you started using insults, this is last time I will reply to you since its clear nobody can have a conversation with you
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
You gave him a thanks for what ? for insulting me? what did I do? you are worse than he is for insulting me. Don't bother to respond because I will not talk to you anymore
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
Yes thats what I'm doing here trying to raise this issue and find out more what options we will have because we can just buy this phone on hopes. And this phone without 3G/4G is nothing. Maybe they turn it off in 6 mo, 1 year or more but I would like to know in advance how long this phone will work if the merger goes trough. Something in writing from AT&T saying that. You know what i mean?
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
You are right about only Tmous will have a problem. and as far as the stupid things that a company can do and especially AT&T it would not surprise me
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
If any merger goes through, these things take a while to go through :p

Not that it affects us here in the UK :p

But still, you won't see a change instantly!
[HTC Sensation] setzer715:
First, IF the merger gets approved it wont be till early next year so your looking at ~8months right there. Second, IF it's approved it will take another couple months to close the deal so now at ~10 months. Third, IF it's approved (seeing a trend here?) it will take ATT 12-24 months (maybe more) to migrate everyone off TMO's 3G and onto ATT's 3G. We're up to 22-46 months.

Why, might you ask? Simple, capacity. ATT DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO

INSTANTLY

TRANSFER ALL 35 MILLION TMO CUSTOMERS TO THEIR NETWORK. If you don't know what capacity is, go to www.google.com and start researching. They will have to increase their switch capacity, site capacity and backhaul capacity to take on all of TMO's customers. That will take time. Enough said.
[HTC Sensation] setzer715:
I'm sorry but you are wrong about the spectrum part. ATT is already out of spectrum, hence why they are pushing to buy TMO. They will want to immediately start migrating customers over but as I stated in my other post above this one, it will take a long time to complete.

ATT does plan to uphold any in place contracts when the merger is complete so if your on contract, you will be fine. If you are not, I'm sure they will do as they would a new customer, give you a subsidised phone and make you sign a 2-year contract. To not give you new phone is foolish and stupid cuz, honestly, why would you stay if not?
[HTC Sensation] bfspider:
I'd eat my phone if this merger happens.

If you follow any of the congress/senate sessions where they are questioning ATT/TMO along side with the people that are opposed with it, then, you'll know that there are a lot of concerned, unhappy people.

A lot are afraid that Ma Bell will reincarnate as the "Twin Sisters" and pretty much undo everything that has been done when they broke up the telco monopoly.

The hate in this thread needs to stop. Lets move on...
[HTC Sensation] Lozone:
Not to worried about the merger myself.

Because as soon as it does or of it does,

most of us here will be talking about

Another flagship phone that we are about to purchase.

And what new OS Google has instore for us.

XDA has made keeping a phone over a year very hard.

Thanks to all the great devs and their work.

Sent from my HD2 phazer!
[HTC Sensation] setzer715:
Yes, there is a lot of opposition from congress/senate and they can voice their opinion and suggestions but the problem is that the decisions ultimately reside with the DOJ (antitrust only) and FCC. Congress has no role in the decision at all except to offer advice and opinion.

Though, someone else I was talking to about this in person today mentioned votes and reelections. Both the DOJ and FCC are elected officials. If they let this deal go through and thousands more of Americans go unemployed, they could lose their jobs due to angry voters so that is something to think about too.

And yet another thought, do you think TMO will be able to make it without the merger? Been loosing money since 2008 and cant seem to get their feet back on the ground. Also, what would stop another company from trying to buy like Sprint? Or maybe a cable company that wants to get into the wireless telcom world? Essentially, TMO may die without help and now that we all know that Deutsche Telekom is willing to sell TMO, other companies will be interested if this deal falls through.
[HTC Sensation] Paten:
What country do you live in? In my country, the United States, the FCC and DOJ are appointed officials. Nobody gets to vote for them.
[HTC Sensation] biohaz55:
Can I point out to the OP that we don't all have a problem!

Please remember that the USA is only one part of the world so do not insult the rest of the world by assuming that we don't exist or count
[HTC Sensation] harveydent:
They did give comparable high end phones to cingular customers when they bought it

And yeah, you, sir, are a ****
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
you make a good point and thats what I was looking for. If you right than that will give you about 2 years and by that time most people will get a new phone but some won't. Anyway thanks
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
Yeah I don't understand all the hostility but anyway I hope so too that the merger does not go trough and not just because this. AT&T is horrible as far I'm concerned and I would have to switch if the merger goes trough.
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
Yes I'm sorry, you are right only US T Mobile costumers will have a problem. I tried to change the thread title but I can't so yes I'm sorry about that
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
And you are an ass
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
You can Edit > Advanced, and change the thread title.
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
Thank you very much
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/fcc-to-att-show-us-the-spectrum/

A lot of people are under the impression that AT&T is NOT out of spectrum at all!

As for those that say tmous needs this or they'll fail, if this doesn't go through, AT&T has to give tmous $6bil & spectrum. That'll sure help them from dying!

I'm starting to think that the OP is linked to Randall Stephenson somehow.
[HTC Sensation] setzer715:
Err, was up very late when I typed that, it didn't come out right. They are appointed by elected officials. All can stand to lose jobs if voters are mad.
[HTC Sensation] ashasaur:
Hey guess what folks! This thread is flame central. Yeah, calm down.

My take, ATT isn't going to shutter the T-Mobile bands, the coverage will basically be what it is now, only devices that can utilize ATT bands will finally be able to roam on said bands.

Sorin, please use the "Edit Post" button instead of quad posting everytime you have a new thought. I am now keeping an eye on this thread, any further flaming will not be tolerated. Users flaming or trolling will have their posts deleted and will be issued an infraction.
[HTC Sensation] setzer715:
Yeah, it's not uncommon for huge corporations to be shady. I guess who knows, maybe ATT DOESN'T need the spectrum and they just see an opportunity to be the nation's LARGEST company. At this point, thought, until ATT provides that info that the FCC want's, it is all speculation.

As for T-Mobile, well, the $6 billion, as you may know, is a shared amount between spectrum (not sure TMO needs it at this point), cash and a new roaming agreement with ATT. It will help, but I don't think it will make everything A OK.

We'll just have to see how the future of TMO unfolds starting early next year with the finalization of the FCC/DOJ review!
[HTC Sensation] solsearch:
They might not need the added spectrum (TMO), especially with the loss of customers, but s an article (can't remember where, so won't link) mentioned, they could use it to roll out LTE or increase speeds.
[HTC Sensation] DirtyPISTOLA:
Well my samsung galaxy s 4g has been unlocked and tested with at&t it runs the 3g just fine so im not too worried besides im sure at&t will try to take care of all tmo customers so we all go with them instead of another carrier.
[HTC Sensation] kylez64:
I can't see it going through. Even Republicans are against it!http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/republicans-and-democrats-alike-are-skeptical-of-attt-mobile-deal/

If it does go through I just choose a new carrier. I buy off contract and get a new phone every year.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iTreezy:
Short worded story

Friend called, couldn't hear him, phone said headphone jack was in use

Restarted phone

touchscreen and optical joystick completely unresponsive.

Hardware buttons work

I have been on the phone with Verizon for hours, they just keep making me hard reset blahblah (side note they call the hboot screen the "android on skateboards" screen, funny)

Anyway, this was all last night, this morning my boss looks at my phone, takes the battery out, sits there for a minute, and puts it back in.....everything was back to normal. Though I tried that a million times last night .

Well the screen went out again, it takes forever for the phone to restart, and an LED went out on my camera's flash.

Any suggestions for the screen?

Verizon is sent me "over night shipping" but it didn't come yet.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
KNOWN ISSUES

SENSE

Speedtweak is under re-construction. Bear with us!

AOSP

None reported yet, please let me know.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dc iz 2 legit:
Tempting
[Thunderbolt Android Development] avlfive:
Just saw in the CM thread that this works work the latest build so I'm giving it a go.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
awesome! nerozehl, wanna add in-call reporting support? That way I don't have to build SP anymore and I can just link it here from my thread.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DipRip:
don't bother using it...wifi does not work at all. It attempts to connect then disconnects. Just went back to the stock slayher kernal instead.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] imneveral0ne:
I dont think you should really be telling people what to try. unless it breaks it permanently, then let people flash whatever they want. he never stated it fixes everything in CM7 or that it was the god of all kernels. just something new. I can see posting a warning telling people that it doesnt work, but not just telling em to not even bother using it.

just my 2 cents though.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
Yep! Working on that right now!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Heh I meant to type recording not reporting.

sent from my phone running leanKernel + gingerjane
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Archangel:
Works for me? Actually it seems pretty good
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidTh3ory:
I have $20 that says you flashed it with ROM Manager. Lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
Ok! I have 1.1.3 coming out this evening (thanks to my friends who have been test dummies!). Will support call recording and have the GPU patches and tweaks from Imoseyon and some EXT4 tweaks courtesy of yours truly. Stay tuned :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] IvanNCase:
Just great now I to threads to keep an eye on, JK. Thanks though I've always sworn by Imoseyon's kernels and I'm really looking forward to your 1.1.3 release.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
1.1.3 Released! Enjoy. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
Is the Sense kernel going to be Froyo or GB? (BTW, very happy that you have a featureful version of LeanKernel - great idea to free Imo up some on the lower-level stuff!)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
Most likely GB, because the Froyo kernel playing field is pretty well saturated with great kernels.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrweeee:
WPA2 does not work with wifi, thats what the "wifi is broken trollololololol" guy ment

tho i wish SOMEONE could fix this, i have yet to find a kernel that doesn't have some wpa2 issues. *hint hint, please?*
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DipRip:
How do you want to send me the 20? I hate rom manager. Of course everything performs differently for different people, but for me it was a total failure compared to other kernels.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
Ooooh, somebody just made twenty bucks! ;-)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
WPA2 is currently at the top of my list.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidTh3ory:
Perfect Thank You... I can add bash/nano into the next update if it is wanted. Maybe if we can get the okay from Twisted, Th3ory ROM can get a sic Kernel to lay on top of. A witches brew of IMO's Great work, with your tweaks and Twisteds Mad SWAP integration. We will need both hands on the phone to use it then. Lol.

I would be more than happy to try and put together a DeSense of Candy V3.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] detox246:
Wow so far this is running nice on my phone. Granted I haven't used it much but in 10 hours I went from 50% to 30%
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
Battery and performance is amazing on the sense kernel! BFS kernels are my fav
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
I can look into the SWAP thing. I am really enjoying your ROM, and a de-sense would be fantastic. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidTh3ory:
Sounds good. I will try my hand at the DeSense tonight. No promises.. [puts sign up] "Noob at work". :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RjsShadows:
TwistedNerozehl modded imoseyon kernel would be heaven. I want it now :/
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
The updated code for that speedtweak is being stored

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14523449&postcount=62

Until I get everything cleaned up on Google code.

To get swap and such, I hack and slashed imoseyons 6.2.1, well actually 7.1, zip. Swap is the enable and disable script. Build.sh hijacks the boot.img to activate and 99imoseyon includes all the run code. Update-script runs build.sh upon install. If you need any help ripping it apart, let me know.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
I'll look at that.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
Ok, so is there a consensus amongst Sense users that they want swap added in by default? If so, I'll release 2.0.1 with swap tonight.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidTh3ory:
Of course... It can be turned on and off. :)

Permission to stuff it in my ROM?

Lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RjsShadows:
Please release a 2.0.1
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
Ok. I will kang the twisted-kang of imoseyon's work :D Gimme about 30 minutes.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidTh3ory:
And what is the name of this witches brew kernel. Lol. This will be the baddest kernel to ever run. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
Ok folks, twisted's mods have been added (swap) as well as some of Imoseyon's! Enjoy 2.0.1!

Thanks twistedumbrella and imoseyon for the enhancements!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lilcdroid:
Call it the Kangaroo kernel. Lol

Thunder sent via my BAMF Gingerbread ROM.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Glad to see another step forward and a nice mashup of progress. Nice work. Thank you.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RjsShadows:
Edit: Nevermind
[Thunderbolt Android Development] detox246:
Nerozehl

Sorry I just got your pm. I hardly ever check them. My bad bro
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ridobe:
Poll:

We need a new name for the new imoseyon/twistedumbrella/nerozehl kernel. Here are my suggestions based on an anagram of the three names:

1) A Deb Elsewhere Limit Zloty Moron Sun

2) A Deb Elsewhere Limit Nylon Smut Orzo

3) A Deb Elsewhere Zillion Mom Turns Toy (lol)

4) Determinable Whores Emulsion Zloty

5) Remediable Instrument Oozes Wholly

6) Relabelled Hymen Motorize Snowsuit

7) Relabeled Wormholes Zesty Munition (actually has a nice ring to it)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Ahhahahaha! I do like 7, but 6 made me giggle.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RjsShadows:
6!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Paulb787:
if i am running ginger with das bmf can i try this?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
Yes, should work fine.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gsxraddict:
Cool gonna try this out once I drain this battery and slap a fresh one in. I tried this yesterday and got a lot of lag with lock screen and just basic functions. Also I would reboot and the battery would read like 10% higher and seemed to drain quick don't know if its just read the battery wrong or what. Any ideas and what to do I will try because when it ran smooth it was awesome thanks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] SQFreak:
After I installed 2.0.1 GB Sense, logcat stopped functioning. Whether I call it from the shell or straight from ADB, I get:

Unable to open log device '/dev/log/main': No such file or directory

I think I found the source of the problem. As a performance tweak, nerozehl killed the logging daemon in /etc/init.d. Reflashing imoseyon's kernel does not restore the log. (It doesn't delete the file inexplicably named "99imoseyon" that isn't present in imoseyon's kernel.)

To restore it (like I want), I think this should work:

[b]From a computer with ADB:[/b]
adb root
adb shell
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mmcblk0p25 /system
nano /etc/init.d/99imoseyon
[i]place a # at the beginning of the fourth line (the one that reads "rm /dev/log/main")[/i]
[i]Ctrl+O[/i]
[i]Enter[/i]
[i]Ctrl+X[/i]
exit
adb reboot

If you have trouble getting that to work, you can also remount /system R/W in Root Explorer, edit /etc/init.d/99imoseyon to put a # at the beginning of the fourth line, save and exit, then remove execute permissions on the backup file it created!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Lol, beat me to it. I forgot to mention that before. Logging, like camera debug, is one of those speed versus ability trades.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gsxraddict:
I don't know exactly what it is but my phone is very unstable with this kernel.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
Could you be more specific? What kernel version, AOSP or Sense, what ROM, what's happening, what do you have your voltages/governor set at, have you enabled logcat to capture the instability.

Your statement doesn't tell me anything, and I can't help you without information. :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gsxraddict:
Sorry didn't think I would get a response as I didn't a few posts back no I didn't enable logcat my laptop took a dumb so not much good I can do with that anyways. I'm using sense 2.0.1 although I have had the same issue on 2.0. I had the issues from beginning just in safemode on ran st script to pick governor. I switched to batterysaver to see if switch voltages would do anything. Didnt change anything. Basically everything lags. Pulling ring on lockscreen the screen unlocking choosing an app to be more specific I would choose an app remove my finger then it would highlight and then open. Almost like its underclocked at 245 even had tapatalk lag to the point of bringing up a force close.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidTh3ory:
Weird... Which ROM? I would assume you tried reflashing it??