yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
That makes sense. Hmm I wonder why my battery has gotten progressively worse... I just think I have a bad one.

Back when I came across the "no charge when dead" recovery issue I tried a method to charge it by connecting a 9V battery to my HTC battery. The results was the 9V got super hot and my HTC battery never charged.

Could that experiment have ruined my HTC battery?
[HTC Sensation] rddocke:
Ya for real wrong thread? Or is someone holding out?
[HTC Sensation] killathenoob:
connecting my phone to TELUS 4G network.....

I bought a Bell Canada HTC Sensation 4G Phone when they cam out and unlocked it and hooked it up to the Telus canada network

I changed my CID on the phone to the t-mobile US one

I also Changed my Mid to the one sugested in this thread.

now when I install this rom it says install sensation 4G files.

here is my problem the phone will only connect to the Telus 3G+(HSDPA) Network and not the 4G(HSDPA+) Network.

A friend of Mine has the same phone on the bell network and gets the 4G network. So I took his sime card installed it in my phone and still the phone would only connect to the Bell HSDPA network not HSDPA+

Took his sim card out installed it back in his phone and he gets HSDPA+ 4G

Anyone know the answer?????????
[HTC Sensation] jetjockgordo:
Well, I am not sure if European chargers are any different but most chargers are 1 amp or less and the stock one is 1 amp. I have not been able to find a usb charger over 1 amp since my HTC Universal (1.5 amp) so I don't think that a non oem charger can do any harm. Of course you can just check and see if the output shows 1A or less.

Sent from my anti-iPhone HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
first of all thanx Mike for ur dedication and hard work there is no doubt that the sensation w/ARHD is the most incredible htc phone to date (excluding the case ssqueek lol) this is the only phone i wud have switched from my nexus one to ok on topic i am running 3.5.2 flawlessly. had bt trouble with my 903 backbeat headset but worked it out. i have tried to load 3.6.0 several times and keep running into bootloops trying to run apps or basically scroll to any function. YES i have wiped and wiped and superwiped, changeddaemon to 1188, loaded mods 1 at the time to see if the problem is there, rebooted after first load and waited hours before addons. the only thing i havent done is switch radio to recomended because my conectivity and speeds are incredible with 10.14.9035.1 m and have seen several users runnning this with tmob us. this may b a mistake but i am not a noob and run different radios without trouble. if anyone can give me different options or sugestions i wud appreciate it. i restoored 3.5.2 but want to keep moving forward :) thank u to all the other users with info and options truly a great community. 3.6.0 loads fine just cant figure out the reboots have a great day guys and gals nik
[HTC Sensation] MadBastard:
waiting and waiting for an answer..nothing . !! hey people let me know where is a problem ,becouse ROM itself ist great ,but the camera/camcorder issues ...anyone ??

btw.i thing all about this crappy beat sound, is for people with bad quality headphones like stock one includet with sensation xe :) im using ultimate ears triplle 10 and the sound WITHOUT it is much better as with BS enabled.tiaaa only my 2 c....
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
Well I thanked you on accident when I meant to hit Quote LOL.

The OEM Sensation US AC adaptor output is 5v + 1A.

9V batteries have the following basic output:

Nominal Voltage

9,

7.2 (NiCd),

7.2 (NiMH),

8.4 (some NiCd and NiMH),

9.6 (Lithium and some NiMH)

Typical Capacity (mAh)

565 (alkaline),

400 (carbon-zinc),

1200 (Lithium),

120 (NiCd),

175 to 300 (NiMH),

520 (Lithium polymer rechargeable)

If memory serves me they're somewhere near 1.5A output. Based upon mAh alone you wouldn't get much charge from a 9v into your factory battery at all. The 9V could certainly give you problems trying to charge your battery. A 12V auto adaptor steps the voltage/amperage down to to 5V a general guideline so the phone can do the rest.

There are some general problems with LiON including battery damage if repeatedly drained fully dead (to the point the phone won't even turn on). I'd google battery conditioning and read up on some techniques to try to rehab your battery. I'm sure there are also some fantastic threads here on XDA which might be useful.
[HTC Sensation] jjdeveau:
Intresting my phone isnt picking up my 5ghz network
[HTC Sensation] whosnex:
:). If I may propose, how about enable True by default screen capture into your new release.
[HTC Sensation] jjdeveau:
Oh wow.. so..

I reflashed the new radio again.. Now my WiFi works fine with the Bluetooth so...

obviously my radio was corrupted.

Sorry for wasting peoples time lol.
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
5ghz is the original A band which is also used for draft-N. Its my understanding the sensation does not support 5ghz, only 2.4.

Draft N is the only spec which supports both 2.4ghz and 5ghz.

In this case having draft-N doesnt automatically imply you've got dual bands.
[HTC Sensation] lws803:
Hmmm I was wondering... Can we port the HTC bliss quick launch widgets and the runnymede rosie into the Sensation ARHD rom?
[HTC Sensation] jjdeveau:
Yeah i have the Netgear 3700 router.. its been amazing to say the least.. and the lack of the ability to hook up to the 5ghz network was one of the things I was bummed about in this phone.. the only thing I was bummed about actually LOL.

Normally we use the 5ghz for our mobile devices. (they were all iPhone 4's and iPad's shhh dont tell anyone here about that)

Wow now its doign it again... I give up.. the headset can be connected.. and its fine.. as soon as its transmitting though.. WHAM.. no more wifi.
[HTC Sensation] lavcoles:
so i flashed a new radio and it sent me into a bootloop. Now i can't get into recovery because it keeps trying to update the radio through fastboot. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP thanks!!!!!!!!
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
try removing that radio .img off of ur sd card maybe put the older radio .img on the card and go back into recovery via vol down and power
[HTC Sensation] lavcoles:
its on the internal sd tho right because i had to flash it through fastboot? how could i access the sd
[HTC Sensation] sinisin:
If you say so. I was speaking from personal experience. Bought a non stock charger for my first Android and it thrashed three batteries before I realized it was the problem. From my understanding of it, using a higher output charger in the short term is ok, but using one for weeks or months on end can and usually will result in shorter battery life and plague you with inconsistent charges. But then again Im no electrcian or certified tech.

Sent from my HTC Pyramid on ARHD XE
[HTC Sensation] lavcoles:
thank you it worked!! :)
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
Gotcha, understood.

Thanks for the feedback because you highlight a very good point.

Yeah if I had to guess I'd say that many of the cheaper knock off non-OEM chargers are just like non-OEM batteries, unfortunately what they are rated for is not usually accurate.

Couple that with poor internal components and it can definately be a mess for your phone.

I'd advocate OEM accessories whenever possible to try to avoid the issue.
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
the best way is to remove the micro sd and use an adapter in ur laptop or a usb adapter too open ur sd card up and remove any radio image that will get picked up imediately. i usualy flash radio images from my sd loading the image myself on the card and then going into recovery (vol down+power) if u have that option go that way other than that someone that uses fastboot and adb/sdk might need to help you
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
Yeah my battery reaches zero about once a day.

I should always charge when it gets to like 25% right?

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Yeah it's been like a month that I've been using this 1.5 amp charger.
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
man its boring lavcoles did u get anywhere with ur problem?
[HTC Sensation] vvveith:
I'm not so sure, it depends.

Really, if you use the mini USB cable and plug it into a computer, it gets a certain charge/current from the powered USB port. The wall wart contains no transformer so it's technically not bumping any thing down as far as I can tell. Is the charger for the HD2 different from the one for the sensation? I use both on the sensation and have experienced no problems, the battery hardly even gets warm. I know devices that have huge wall warts contain step down transformers but I don't think that this is the case here. I could be wrong, but I cracked one of my hd2 chargers open and there was nothing inside, unless I crushed that two, definitly no transformer though. Just saying. Peace:confused:
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
In electronics Amperage isn't generally as bad as Voltage (in humans it's almost the opposite).

If you've got 1.5a but you're device only uses 1a it'll draw somewhere near 1a.

If the device is rated for 5v and you give it 9v that'll hurt it.

As for when to charge, there is a lot of debate on that. I run my devices pretty far down closer <10% but I really try not to discharge them fully.

Keep in mind each battery type has it's own idiosyncrasies when it comes to charging habits, memory and cycles of life. LiON generally has the least amount of charging cycles compared to other types but is lighter, generally doesn't show a memory affect and excells when you charge it regularly.

Each time you plug into charge you're effectively depleating (1) cycle (again this can be a point of debate with some as to what is defined as a "cycle"). LiON's dislike being fully discharged and also dislike extreme heat so for me I charge often so I worry less about it, however YMMV.

Things are expensive these days but batteries are a lot less expensive than they used to be.

Like sinisin pointed out, the use of aftermarket batteries and chargers can negatively impact overall performance. It's not just a sales speach, OEM is generally the better quality product.

BTW USB I don't believe supports the amperage needed to fully support the device.

The OEM AC charger input is 100v 200mA and output is 5v 1a

It absolutely steps it down. Transformers would be needed to step up the Voltage/Current <--- perhaps someone can explain this in more detail my mind is tired, its been a long week.
[HTC Sensation] sinisin:
So been on this ROM for 5 days, give or take a random trial or two. Issues seem minor for me, GPS(no fixes worked, could be 2.3.5 from what I've read), and the occasional random soft reboot(happened on stock too, seems to occur when to many windows for lack of a better term are opened and active). I am also running my stock radio and have great reception in and outside. 10.14.9035.1_M. I chose to do so as Ive read that varying radios, like your across the pond, and ours over here are set to our specific regions and using a radio outside of your region can lead to significant reception issues. These are not mikes words and I'm not a dev. So dont take this as fact or think Im trying to mislead or misinform you or anyone else. Just my experience on this wonderful rom so far. Keep up the good work mike and all who assist you on this. Long live ARHD!

Sent from my HTC Pyramid on ARHD XE
[HTC Sensation] vvveith:
Check!

Both the HD2 and the Sensation use the same voltage, which I guess must be the same as a powered USB port. 5V 1A I do not know how their little walwart steps down so much voltage, but I wish some of my other devices had such small warts. I could cut down on power strips!!!!! LOL:rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] sinisin:
Huh? Did you read anything since that? Your HD2 has the same stock charger as the HD7 I tried which is the same stock charger as our Sensation. So not clear on what you mean...? Computer USB charging I would IMAGINE would be a way lower out put since it takes way longer to charge on USB.

Sent from my HTC Pyramid on ARHD XE
[HTC Sensation] vvveith:
Sorry, I get behind on these posts, life happens.

Sorry, just getting caught up to the end of the posts from where I left off before I had to run my dog to the emergency vet. Did not refresh and ignorantly posted on what I thought was the last page. So I had not read your further conversations and now I am enlightened on how these devices work and understand the construct. Sorry if I appeared to be thick headed, was just distracted. My apologies. Peace.:)
[HTC Sensation] swissman:
Hey Mike,

"If you appreciate my work, you can buy me a beer"

Did you get some or should we bring you to Munich for the Oktoberfest? Just wanted to thank you for the ROM.
[HTC Sensation] mixmaven:
Mike or anyone, I tried to flash the recommended radio via fastboot as usual and it failed so I found the PASSIMG file and flashed from the SD card (worked.)

What gives? Never had this problem before? Should I run the revolution unlock again?

Thanks!

-mix
[HTC Sensation] sinisin:
We've all done it!

Sent from my HTC Pyramid on ARHD XE
[HTC Sensation] rddocke:
take the sd out and use an adaptor toyour pc and remove it then. ive had to do that a few times with other devices... just go around the problem so to speak
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
dont get ur hopes up for an answer unless it has to do with a charger been waiting for a while
[HTC Sensation] gauravdhure994:
i need battary % mod for 3.6.0
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
lavcole had the same problem but couldnt get into recovery because of fastboot retrying to load the .img flashing from recovery using the .img always works better imo

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search it was on a page maybe 10 pages back search is ur friend
[HTC Sensation] ArcticWolf91:
Ok guys I have a noobish question here. I rooted and installed 3.6.0 and loving it so far. I just want to add the CRT animation and the 4G icons. Ok so i downloaded the CRT zip. Do I just put it into the root of my SD, boot into recovery using Volume down + Power then select install zip from SD?
[HTC Sensation] PandaKiller:
Quick_Settings for 3.6.X

Battery mod for 3.6.X

:cool:
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
LOL don't be bitter bro because somebody else got help with their question and you havent.

Most of the challenges with Radios, Kernals and other flashing issues can be resolved if you simply lift several fingers and use "search".

If you post a question, then you wait for the answer ;-)

EDIT: and sure I could easily answer your basic flashing questions but I'll let you wait because it clearly brings out the better part of you <hugs>
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
thanx not bitter and search is all i do except for reading post after post wouldnt ask a question if i hadnt already "lifted several fingers"
[HTC Sensation] yauhui:
I am getting reboots and bootloops after flashing the CRT animation mod for 3.6.x - any ideas?
[HTC Sensation] nardone24:
Whaaaaaaa no one answered my question yet. Don't get Ur hopes up wha wha whannnnn. Lol J/k ask the question once or twice and if no one helps u out then here isn't the place for it...
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
It appears you have made several posts complaining about not getting the answer you're looking for.

Have you tried seeking help on the IRC channel?

If someone is on from the Revolution team that's the fastest way to get a resolve to your query.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G

EDIT: (king of typos and edits) IRC link: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=AndroidRevolution
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
same here or at least bootloops every few minutes CRT works fine on 3.5.2 not sure about 3.6.0

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dont need ur basic flashing bs ive been flashing phones since the razr just some ideas would have been helpful which as u can see is what i try to be HELPFUL

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seems that a question about the REVOLUTION rom on the rom site is the best place humm? jk
[HTC Sensation] KAwAtA:
Yeah, I had reboots too using this mod, but most the time it's okay.. today it rebooted once(with mod on). Last night it rebooted like 5 times until I restored my backup without the crt and it was fine again. (because I love the crt, I reflashed it and SO far it's working good) As I stated above, 1 reboot so far! I don't know what the heck is wrong and since it's working pretty good, I don't care enough to get a logcat or anything. Not sure what's up but I would assume it's the CRT screwing with you and I
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
that must be the answer then althought i tried without the CRT and had a few i'll flash it again without all the mods and see what happens kernel, radio , everythimg else fine i like the CRT but it can wait
[HTC Sensation] mixmaven:
Anyone found this battery percentage for 3.6.x?
[HTC Sensation] J.Swalen:
That is the way to do it.
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
Well then, you're clearly a master eh!

You should be building your own roms then and we should be asking you the questions :-)

Here is a cookie for all your hard work <yummy cookie>

How is asking again and again, then making comments like

being helpful?

Do you realize that in most of the world its already early Saturday morning?

People do have lives outside of your Sensation issues.

I'll post it again for you, because you may have missed it in your extenuous searches:http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=AndroidRevolution

FYI as I mentioned above it's really late/early in most of the world. Since Mike lives in Poland I wouldn't expect a response for quite some time yet.
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
i think its in the signiture of post 18901
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
Upload your iconset with the framework in the link (from the first page)

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=1359&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fxdaforums.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1098849&v=1&libid=1316838611158&out=http%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F6jzcscs&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fxdaforums.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1098849%26page%3D1940&title=%5BROM%5D%20Android%20Revolution%20HD%E2%84%A2%203.6.0%20XE%20%7C%20High%20Quality%20%26%20Performance%20%7C%20O%2FC%20%7C%20Legendary%20-%20xda-developers&txt=Framework%20content%20from%203.6.x%20ROMs&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13168384095121

To the UOT kitchen http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=1359&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fxdaforums.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1098849&v=1&libid=1316838611158&out=http%3A%2F%2Fuot.dakra.lt%2F&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fxdaforums.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1098849%26page%3D1940&title=%5BROM%5D%20Android%20Revolution%20HD%E2%84%A2%203.6.0%20XE%20%7C%20High%20Quality%20%26%20Performance%20%7C%20O%2FC%20%7C%20Legendary%20-%20xda-developers&txt=UOT%20kitchen&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13168385109382

They will return a compatible iconset for use with the new XE base (used in 3.6.*)
[HTC Sensation] thegregulator:
Fellas, fellas.. it's time to grow up here.

On a real note, to everyone experiencing severe battery drain issues.. have you tried the guides posted in the OP that aim to increase your battery life? I'm trying one of them as we speak and I'll post my results.
[HTC Sensation] noellenchris:
Enough off topic arguing.....***WARNING***

noellenchris
[HTC Sensation] mixmaven:
Thanks!

-mix
[HTC Sensation] awesam:
scroll a couple of pages up, there is a mod (same as your picture)

or search for user : Refsav - he's got one too and I'm using that. complete set of wifi/signal/battery bar ...
[HTC Sensation] jetjockgordo:
I have the new Chevy Volt and had the unique opportunity to speak with the head engineer of the lithium ion battery pack (which has over 200 patents) and the car does not draw the battery much below 20% and charge it not over 85%. They have some test packs that have 20 years worth of cycles with only 10% loss of capacity.

Short charging during the day is actually good for Li-ion. I would be curious as to how the phone manages a charge and how close it gets it to Max and min capacity. I would also wonder if it is only "tuned" for oem battery capacity.

Sent from my anti-iPhone HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] jetjockgordo:
Computer usb circuits are designed for 0.5 amp or half of the oem charger hence the longer/ cooler charge time.

Sent from my anti-iPhone HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] ArcticWolf91:
Awesome. Thanks a lot!
[HTC Sensation] awesam:
flashed 0.1.9 faux and downclocked it to 1.2Ghz as well

but how do I undervolt it ? with Daemon controller as well ? if not which app ?

so far, with Faux 0.1.9 + downclock 1.2ghz, its giving pretty decent battery life :) 21+ hours before it hits 5% batt life. i hope it improves over the next couple of days
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
True Dat.

The chemicals in LiON don't like to be fully discharged. It's been a while since that class but it's something about damaging the structure of the compound when it's fully charged and discharged so charging often is advised (topping off so to speak).

I have to say those Volt batteries are some top notch tech. Even though they're in the same family (LiON) they really are super advanced.
[HTC Sensation] superman63:
use darmon and set Wake max to 1188000

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sorry daemon:D
[HTC Sensation] jetjockgordo:
That's for sure and since I know that GM's biggest issue was keeping the cells cool (that's why the pack is liquid cooled) I think for our phones using a 0.5 amp charger (think computer USB port) might be much better for battery life than 1 amp OEM. Heat is the enemy.
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
Check the Faux123 kernal thread. 1st page he's got explicit instructions on how to undervolt all the freqs.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1216197

Unfortunately simply turning down the MAX CPU freq doesnt undervolt each step in the scaling processors.

You want the same "gross" speeds but achieved with less CPU voltage if possible. As Faux would tell you not all CPU's are stable undervolted.

Yeah heat is a total killer. I've had 4hr calls where I had to stick the phone in the frig to cool it off so it would even recharge.

PC USB isn't really good for charging though because of the .5a If I'm doing anything even slightly heavy while tethered to PC USB it won't even charge. LOL as you know if it does charge it's sloooow.
[HTC Sensation] Evo_Pimpin:
Anyone have a changelist for 6.1.1? I just downloaded it on Mikes IRC. Just wondering what's in it.
[HTC Sensation] the_scotsman:
You mean 3.6.1? :confused:
[HTC Sensation] jetjockgordo:
Hey Datafoo, you need to make that hat larger than the USA, ok? LOL! I love it!

Oh, does that make the USA, Canada's underwear?
[HTC Sensation] datafoo:
Thats not for the Sensation.

6.1.1 would either be Inspire 4g or Desire HD.

Check the changelogs on the 1st page of this thread for current and expected builds.

I dunno but it makes Mexico America's Beard

Do'h!

I'm dual. Grew up split between BC and West Coast So-Cal.

Canada makes the US kewl.
[HTC Sensation] tkalfaoglu:
wi-fi error

I first S-OFF'ed, installed recovery, superwiped, and installed the ROM. Boots and appears fine, except wifi gives an error when I try to enable it. So I tried installing radio, and that gives an error

# fastboot flash radio radio.img

sending 'radio' (22189 KB)... OKAY

writing 'radio'... INFOsignature checking...

FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)

any ideas what to do?

PS: My S-OFF now shows S-ON at bootloader :(
[HTC Sensation] awesam:
isn't that only "under clocking" ? i've got that done Wake min 384000 and Wake ax 1188000. there should another way to Under Volt it.

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gotcha... will head over to Faux's thread instead and read up.

"thanks" button to both of you :)
[HTC Sensation] Evo_Pimpin:
Oh ok, I thought that IRC was just for the Sensation.