yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] ltcaugust13:
Happened to my Sensation and another fellow also...

I didn't quite bother about it. Try taking out the battery and start ur Sensation. The percentage actually goes up again... LOL...
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
3.0.3 changelog in the first post.
[HTC Sensation] mgear356:
haha ya loh.. siao siao one..
[HTC Sensation] r1sk:
I love the 3.0.2 :)

I see some speed improvements, I don't feel lags anymore , I did feel a little with the 3.0.1 ...

and I have no idea why people complaining about the battery life, from around 7am today with Live Wallpaper GPS navigation from and to work , about 1hr music , Internet for about 40 min, and games for 30 min , after 12hr, I get 58%..

thank you mike ..:) love u :D
[HTC Sensation] Step-han:
Nice! Are u uploading it?
[HTC Sensation] omar302:
Great!

Improvements to dual-core scripts

Is this for the Dual Core Script only, or is for the ROM as a whole?
[HTC Sensation] marcjw:
Nope, not accurate. I don't have ENG (I've got PVT) and Mike's page1 radio flashed fine for me.
[HTC Sensation] avon76:
Thank you dude:D
[HTC Sensation] Step-han:
If we flash a custum kernel with 3.0.3, is the dual-core script still working?
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
Yes, it will still be working.
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
Upload has begun ;) Stay tunned :D
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
Glad to hear that dual-core script will work with a custom kernel.

How you enjoying your Sensation by the way mike? :)
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
It's amazing phone but I wish I can play my lovely NijaFruits on it without lags just like I used to on my Desire HD :p
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
do you have eta for upload mike ?

edit: oh ... got another question. can someone tell me the benefits of using dual core in this rom ?
[HTC Sensation] johnson8cyl:
Keep working at it. I'm sure you'll get it. Anxious for upcoming events. You're the man
[HTC Sensation] gangstar:
mike......how come it is far behind sgs2 in performance? even behind optimus 2x!

why does it score so low in benchmarks?
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
As always mate - 2 or 3 hours :o
[HTC Sensation] johnson8cyl:
Me as well. Getting the ENG h-boot just for the extra access just in case.
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
from when ??

when did you start :D
[HTC Sensation] johnson8cyl:
Forget benchmark. Use a stopwatch
[HTC Sensation] Whiskey103:
About 15 minutes ago ;)
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
+1 exactly!!! stop with the DAMN benchmark sh#% and enjoy the phone, mike1986 doesnt care about the benchmark crap, most dont even read dual core so ur testing half the phone!
[HTC Sensation] gangstar:
i needed a true answer.

trust me....i have sgs2 and sensation. sgs2 with stock rom and sensation with arhd, sensation is way way back in performance. i am talking about raw perfromance like.....opening an 1080p or....editing a movie or opening a program. i had before desire hd with arhd rom......omg.......it is even slower than the desire hd.
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
Whiskey now you know everything :D
[HTC Sensation] xenoman:
very short question, Mike...

Intended to answer it just with "yes, your dreams have come true" or "no, unfortunately not (yet), dude"...

will the cifs and utf8 modules be included in 3.0.3? ;-)
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
there should be a BENCHMARK thread for all u who keep talking about that...most of us dont care were here to enjoy his rom if u dont like it, c ya. every other post is benchmark this benchmark that?!!?:mad: cluttering up thread about test, i have G2X! my sensation is faster by looks and performance...or better yet use ur other faster phone! :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] ctscloud:
Going to wait for the upload...I'm still on stock rooted been waiting just for this Mike!! I think a lot of people and myself appreciate all the work you do!:)
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
Sorry mate still forgetting about it. I will get it working very soon!
[HTC Sensation] gangstar:
ur clearly frustrated. i didnt say anything about bechmarks. i was talking about raw performance. read before u type and stop worshiping ur phone and developers.
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
another one

conf# 14877456VB526051R

*u should open a benchmark thread for all the people who like to use there phone just for that lol

keep doing what u do mike1986 love ur work! another small gratitude! ;)
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
sorry GANSTAR!(pshh) u are on his thread and yes i quit like his roms thanks prankster...i mean ganster:rolleyes:

*in all due respect if u dont like the phone and comparing to one u have thats faster blah blah, dont tell us about it, use the other phone. i would!...just saying
[HTC Sensation] calimove:
so fix it!!! :) do u think u can make enough improvement to be faster than what ur used too?????
[HTC Sensation] gangstar:
no really! are u even reading what i write or u like to kiss ass that much?

i asked mike why is this phone much slower than the rivals. no bechmarks no anything! not even his rom! wtf? u like to argue or what?
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
wow ur right i must have read wrong nothing about benchmark :eek:

*ill stop now sorry buddy!
[HTC Sensation] supendal:
Can anyone confirm this? Is this a general or arhd related error?
[HTC Sensation] belblade:
what's the best way to flash over 3.01 (or 3.02) if you want the dual core script?

reboot into recovery

(nandroid!)

wipe dalvik cache and cache

flash 3.03

flash dual core script

reboot ?

or reboot between 2 flashes?
[HTC Sensation] lightninbug:
Time and time again, i see devs putting in DUPLICATE lines in build.props....

THEY CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT!!

THE BUILD.PROP GOES OFF THE FIRST ENTRY AND STICKS WITH IT

Therefore if your first lines are:

ro.ril.hsxpa = (2)

ro.ril.gprsclass = (10)

and if you have it a couple pages down in your build.prop as:

ro.ril.hsxpa = (3)

ro.ril.gprsclass = (12)

IT GOES OFF THE FIRST ONES..

ro.ril.hsxpa = (2)

ro.ril.gprsclass = (10)

THEREFORE THE ONES AT THE END OF THE BUILD.PROP ARE NOT ACTIVE (NOT RECOGNIZED) !! ONLY THE FIRST ONES.

PLEASE CHECK YOUR BUILD.PROPS FOR DUPLICATES!!..

SOMETIMES THE LITTLE THINGS ARE THE BIGGEST THINGS...

I have noticed significant speed increase in data and speed when i delete the lower end values that are duplicates..
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
no need to wipe coming from 3.0.1 im using that with 3.0.2 patch now. when 3.0.3 is up im just going to flash over what i have and then apply the new patch. been working fine for me.
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
ةmike..thank you for this nice rom :)

i play Fruit Ninja Crazy (MOD) and if play arcade mod i get so money fruits in less time and my sensation laggy on game !! i played this game on SGS2 and it's smoother than sensation :(
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
ten characters
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
You are not right my friend. And please don't use "!". For example ro.ril.hsxpa=2 (line 17) is parsed, while ro.ril.hsxpa=3 (line 100) doesn't make effect (I think because it's there after radio libs are loaded.
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
have u tried it with any of the diff kernels?
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
:D thanks mike! was going to try it till i just read this
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
yes..even with 1.7GHz it's laggy !!
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
If it's 1.3.2 the same as you posted already in rcmix thread then it's included in incoming 1.1.3 ROM.
[HTC Sensation] Jayedamina:
tried in on 1.1.2 and no flash.
[HTC Sensation] klquicksall:
its the same as eariler but one person reported the camera flash didnt work. So I was trying to see if its the rom or kernel.
[HTC Sensation] Tunay:
I wonder at this as well....
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
I will provide link bit later :) I have to prepare a package with old kernel + script to remove OC Daemon.
[HTC Sensation] Jayedamina:
hey Mike is this statement true?
[HTC Sensation] Electronic Punk:
I don't even see a download link, so think I am safe :D
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
The earlier links have been removed, so I guess so.
[HTC Sensation] Whiskey103:
Yes guys,, its official,, i had to take the links down. Some misunderstooth .

Hang on :D
[HTC Sensation] Jayedamina:
I just wanted to make sure before i flashed it. it was already on sd card and ready to go:o
[HTC Sensation] tinker2000:
can it be fixed with 7zip or something with a few files?
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
Links will be ready very soon!
[HTC Sensation] vincepg13:
Yes Mike please do this, I want to stick with stock kernel, don't think custom one is worth it on dual core phone. I've got zip for stock kernel but don't no what to do about the daemon

Edit: would just deleting the virtuous oc folder in system/etc do the trick?
[HTC Sensation] Tunay:
Do you think the back to stock kernel script will affect the performance?
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
The package is ready, uploading now.
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
Yes, for sure it will. But it's users choice so I always give possibility.
[HTC Sensation] nardone24:
Ok to flash this Rom?

Pyramid pvt ship s-off rl

Hboot 1.17.1011

Radio 10.11.9006.15_m

Emmc boot
[HTC Sensation] vincepg13:
Hmm. Might hang back until flash issues are fixed
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
ROM 1.1.3 is up as well as default kernel. I recommend flashing default kernel ONLY if you can't live without flashlight in camera :)
[HTC Sensation] triStateMindgate:
Yea bro go for it, THE best ROM out there as of now for the sensation. You can always flash another Modem if you wish but I didn't have to, based out of NYC left Modem alone and my service has not been affected. Wait for 1.1.3 should be up any sec.

Really want to try out that Custom kernel, I personally can wait as long as it takes for a flash fix..
[HTC Sensation] lightninbug:
So I am confused...are you saying DO NOT delete anything that has a duplicate? Because I have been seeing all sorts of devs putting in duplicates inside the build.prop ever since my G1, vibrant, galaxy tab, and evo....I have always stated to delete the duplicated because the build.prop only goes off of the first entry not the later ones (if duplicate)..

I have ALWAYS noticed a speed/data increase...even significant improvement on speedtest.net app.

Call me wrong/dumb/incorrect or whatever...But I have done this many times and believe me I see a difference every time.

i delete the smaller value duplicates ONLY like:

ro.ril.hsxpa = 2

ro.ril.gprsclass = 10

and a couple entries down it says..

ro.ril.hsxpa = 3

ro.ril.gprsclass = 12

I would delete the

ro.ril.hsxpa = 2

ro.ril.gprsclass = 10

save the build.prop and reboot TWICE...

I guarantee you will notice a difference!!
[HTC Sensation] mjason:
The 3.0.3 download says "no mirrors available" any ideas??

Dropbox is going to uploading.com???

Are you changing servers? I think fileserve is a great idea :)
[HTC Sensation] tehshouter:
I play it without any lagg :O
[HTC Sensation] Jayedamina:
still uploading....
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
faux123 latest kernel 0.0.6

I must say it works VERY good but needs testing:

http://tinyurl.com/3sfuu9g
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
no i think he is saying that there not duplicates, but there written there after radio libs are loaded...can we or should we be deleting those, if u say is true i wonder?!
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
I don't really understand why you react so harsh. I don't know this guy, but in principle he is right. He just stated that this phone is much slower than it should be, and he asked mike if he could explain the reason for that. I would say that should be allowed.

I also think that the sensation should be much faster than it is. Independent from the rom, stock or custom it simply does not reach the speed it should in comparison to much lower equipped devices. And I don't mean in benchmarks but in real feeling. Most probably it's due to a ****ty base-rom, but it should be allowed in a forum, to ask a dev if he probably could explain that

I think this is much more excusable than 200 ppl always asking the same questions about wifi-calling or daemons with stock kernels.

sorry, just my two cents
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
try this

http://droidfanz.com/7974-fruit-ninja-crazy-154-hd-modded-versionno-bomb-x10fruit.html

play arcade mod
[HTC Sensation] gtrplr71:
trying to DL rom it says mirrors not available anyone else have a good link?
[HTC Sensation] lightninbug:
Honestly, i have done both, deleted the first entries (radio libs are loaded) and keep the later ones.. I have also deleted the later ones and changed the ones where the radio libs are loaded to the greater values..BOTH seem to work...as long as the values are STILL in there somewhere.

trust me you will notice a difference.

at least i do, and Im right outside of chicago.
[HTC Sensation] faux123:
As a common courtesy, please do not hot link to file directly. Link to my thread instead. Thank you. :cool:
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
i know i was wrong, sorry guys! just saw another benchmark(again) and the threads covered with these, but as u say the phone is not up to par and thats the phone, not the rom just wanted to clarify that with him. ;)

*Apologies to u gangstar

**i should read my own signature at times to remind myself as well ; )
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
r u kidding me ???

i play this ga,e on sensation and sgs2..sgs2 alot better than sensation becuase sensation doesn't use all adreno 220 performance
[HTC Sensation] iJohnny:
omg

Mike said that upload is in progress.

He will let us know when it is done.
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
means=still loading up :)
[HTC Sensation] xiobnb:
Cant wait love your rom!!
[HTC Sensation] vincepg13:
I think its because Mike modified it for it to work with 2.3.4? Please correct me if I'm wrong
[HTC Sensation] adclem:
Just flashed it and am testing it out now.

Thanks Mike, looking forward to 3.0.3
[HTC Sensation] tehshouter:
I am dead serious.
[HTC Sensation] iJohnny:
It works on 3.0.2?
[HTC Sensation] adclem:
Still does not give you the option for charging or disk drive, but we all know the way around that. Seems smooth and fast still, only time will tell.
[HTC Sensation] faux123:
Yes, you are correct. He added libs to the files. He needs to state more clearly that this is his mod :D

I am corrected! :cool:
[HTC Sensation] xenoman:
ok, mate, no problem!

could you please give me a "dead line" for the modules to be included so that I am able to time my next and most grateful donation... :cool:
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
:D my guess will be the next build
[HTC Sensation] pixel-painter:
Same for me :'( Link is down
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
so 0.3 has no dual core support build in right ?

if we want it flash dual core force script right ?
[HTC Sensation] adclem:
Correct, or you could try it with the new 0.0.6 kernel he posted a couple pages back first.
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
Its modified, yours will not work mate.
[HTC Sensation] jlevy73:
What did you modify?
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
I modified ramdisk as well, otherwise it wont work with 2.3.4 ROM.
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
Ramdisk and libs. I will give you more specyfic details when i get home.
[HTC Sensation] johnson8cyl:
Thanks for your work mike. Absolutely going to try modded kernel with 3.0.1
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
ahhhh totally confused now !!!

what dont work ? faux kernel 0.6 couse its modified ??

so should we use faux kernel or not ?

so faux kernel has a dual core script too ? so we dont need the script from mike ?

ahhh ^^
[HTC Sensation] adclem:
If you want to use faux kernel use the one Mike posted a couple pages back, so far so good with it.
[HTC Sensation] PaulGiz:
Mike: have a sandwich on me.

Confirmation #17M27534VG015982C

P.
[HTC Sensation] ltcaugust13:
Mike

Just to let u know.

The new kernel makes the 3.0.2 even faster and smoother.
[HTC Sensation] avon76:
i miss that for this kernel :(

Link please:rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] iJohnny:
This needs to go to your Custom Kernels section. :D
[HTC Sensation] johnson8cyl:
Do we need 3.0.2 patch installed before the kernel?
[HTC Sensation] adclem:
He hasn't added OC Dameon to it yet, so I am sure when he does he will add it.
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
Cheers mate!
[HTC Sensation] gangstar:
mike.......how much longer till 3.0.3 link available?:X
[HTC Sensation] adclem:
Not sure if we do or not, but I had it and then flashed the kernel he listed and this thing is flying and only getting better.
[HTC Sensation] Step-han:
Is that Faux kernel a overclock kernel? And does he have a topic?

Edit:

Faux kernel topic: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1216197
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
can i have clearification plaese ?

faux + dual core force patch ?

just rom + faux ?

rom + faux + oc deamon for overclocking ?
[HTC Sensation] avon76:
people,

this is for 2.3.3 ?
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
i got 2254 after installed new kernel on ARHD 3.02

1.5GHz
[HTC Sensation] johnson8cyl:
+1 please
[HTC Sensation] johnson8cyl:
Not mikes modded version a few pages back
[HTC Sensation] iJohnny:
Mike moded it to work with 2.3.4
[HTC Sensation] adclem:
Mike modded it some and is for 2.3.4, otherwise Mike would not have posted it and asked for some feedback.

It is OC it is 1.5

Mike so far 3.0.1 with the 3.0.2 patch with this kernel is flying!
[HTC Sensation] avon76:
well

i try it ,and phone is too hot for 5min. playng game:(
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
oc deamon is force losing with faux kernel

isnt it compatible with deamon controller ?
[HTC Sensation] gangstar:
mike.....plz.......how much longer?
[HTC Sensation] Step-han:
u can use SetCPU too
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
I want to sleep but i want downloading ARHD 3.0.3 then i will go to sleep
[HTC Sensation] iJohnny:
faux kernel is fast :D
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
setcpu is slower changing gouvanours
[HTC Sensation] belblade:
+2

confused in what order this needs to flashed and what is not needed...
[HTC Sensation] faux123:
Don't need to worry about changing of governors... Only OnDemand is working properly for dual-cpu operations!
[HTC Sensation] johnson8cyl:
So just flash and let fly?
[HTC Sensation] supercobaltss:
So the Dual Core patch that is up, Has anyone tried it with 3.0.2?
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
What about conservative mate? Btw can you add vr scheduler to the kernel?
[HTC Sensation] silentsnow31802:
Are people able to download 3.0.3? Link isnt working for me.
[HTC Sensation] faux123:
So far the only governor working properly with OC is ondemand. Other governors have not been patched properly and it is still an on-going development for myself and several other kernel developers.
[HTC Sensation] Hgaara:
Should I upgrade to 3.0.3 if 3.0.1 is running waaay better than 3.0.2 was?
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
+15 ..... :D
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
Where is it?
[HTC Sensation] johnson8cyl:
Yes
[HTC Sensation] supercobaltss:
Its on the first page right under the 303 Download Link, 303 isnt uploaded yet so i tried downloading the patch and got it
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
Does the script only work with this ROM?
[HTC Sensation] mike1986.:
I will configure oc daemon to run only.with ondemand then.
[HTC Sensation] supercobaltss:
Not sure, id like to think it would work with any rom but thats up to mike to answer that.
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
Mike! Does the dual core script only work with your ROM?
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
so what is the right procedure for rom + faux + oc ????

is the dual core force patch needed when using faux kernel ??

at the moment i would say rom without force patch and just faux kernel aftern that and setcpu !

or not ?
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
with a signature like that hes not going to answer you...JK :D mikes a nice guy! id sugg u can only try it wont hurt as long as u back up everything if u dont like it or doesnt work go back and do restore. good luck
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
I dont update my signature at all. I have two Sensations. So it's confusing. Lol. But I guess I'll give it a shot on my other one. ARHD is my main go for Sense ROMs. Haha.
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
:eek: 2 sensations! nice
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
One's a graduation gift and one's on contract. ;).
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
highschool or collage ?
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
High school! Lol.
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
could be ... i dont see you age anywhere...

or isnt it called to gratuate on a collage ?
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
I don't think I touched it. And no, I graduated high school and now I'm studying at University of North Texas! :D.
[HTC Sensation] avon76:
you know for PM's ?
[HTC Sensation] fallenangel408:
"congrats on the grad"
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
so ... dont kill anyone or you´ll be killed right :D
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
What do you mean, sir?
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
Haha, exactly.
[HTC Sensation] avon76:
i mean ,here is android thread,not mamy thread:D
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
Lol, very funny.
[HTC Sensation] avon76:
no it's not

you can use pm for personal problem's;)
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
sorry ... what´s mamy ??

mum ? short form for mamel ? ^^
[HTC Sensation] mgear356:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=697994

Mike able to mod this pls?
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
first of all ... that aren´t problems .. just chatting a little by waiting for something special :D

and secondly youré spamming too by writing such ununderstandable things like this "you know for PM's ?" :D

and i dont think youre a mod ... if one of them would have a problem with us they would talk to us ;)

have fun
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
Haha... No hard feelings guys. I was just wondering something so I asked. Not a priority or anything. But wow, I'm on ARHD 3.0.2 and battery life is amazing with stock.
[HTC Sensation] vincepg13:
using faux's kernel when you plug usb in you dont get the options to choose what to do. i think im right in saying this is a problem with all custom kernels?
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
nono... i was just kidding ... all good

is it called gratuat too when you finish collage ??

oh... errr ... im on 3.0.2 too ... batterie life is really great ... waiting for 3.0.3 for god sake ^^
[HTC Sensation] PaulGiz:
Back to stock kernel. Faux too jumpy, not cooperating with Radio well for me -- poor speeds with WiFi, and just ok without.

Just sitting, waiting for finished upload.

Meanwhile, I'll have another glass.

P.
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
Yes, they're both called the samething. I'm finishing college in 2015. Long time from now!

Same here, I'm really anxious. :D.
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
oh ... youre right ... but thats not a general problem with custom kernels ...

you can solve this at the moment when using bootmanager app
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
guys can u stop talking about collage,school and other stuff ???

this place for Android development !!
[HTC Sensation] ikhtiaralam:
Sorry.
[HTC Sensation] vincepg13:
mike is there any chance the patch you used on faux kernel to work with 2.3.4 could of broke the menu you get when you plug in usb?

at first i thought it was just a kernel problem so i reported it in faux thread....he said it works on 2.3.3 so it was the only thing i could think of

possible? or is it just an incompatibility we will have to live with until 2.3.4 source is available
[HTC Sensation] Antonyjeweet:
I hope it is coming fast. I have to sleep, but cant because i have to flash 3.0.3 first hehe:)
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
i charged my sensation 100% then i wipe battery stats then i keep using my sensation because i want battery die..ok now my sensation is off battery 0%..i keep him on charger without i turn it on..i turned on battery 100% and i love battery life now..should i do same thing again ??

EDIT: should i do same thing again?? (but without wipe battery stats)
[HTC Sensation] quailallstar:
Anyone have luck downloading Android Revolution HD 3.0.3? All servers are currently busy and I've been trying for over an hr. :(
[HTC Sensation] ltcaugust13:
I think if anyone managed to u'll see reviews...
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
i dont think its coming today anymore :(
[HTC Sensation] Joshhedge:
Hey Mike,

With regards to the maxathon browser, is there a way to stop it from caching as much as it basically prevents me from reloading XDA forums for some pages and doesn't allow me too refresh to get new download links and thus have to manually clear the browsers cache files?
[HTC Sensation] quailallstar:
Poop :( Oh well there is always tomorrow :D