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[Gen8 General] wvl0:
Sorry for this rant, but I cant help myself.

Guys, stop the nonsense regarding not being an android dev and thusnot being able to get anything done. Are you not capable of learning? Please dont reply with negative until you ve tried.

I'm a linuxadmin. It took me 2 hours to get a CM build just by following the instructions. How much longer would it take to rip the drivers ad add them to the image? My guess is that if you start with CM 6 (froyo?) you ll be done in a few days.

So please stop begging for an android dev and all the idle talk of how you think you might get things to work. Just get started with the cyanogenmod build guide already!

Again sorry for the rant :)
[Gen8 General] sibere:
Ho year sure, downloading sources for a supported device and building the entire thing is not rocket science and can be easily done by following the wiki.

But building one for an unsupported device is an other story.

It requires a good knowledge and a lot of spare time.

The knowledge can be learned online but it requires a lot more spare time too and many of us don't have that spare time, unfortunately.

do you?
[Gen8 General] wvl0:
I'm not here to lecture people on how they spend their time. I simply want to point out that waiting for a dev to come along to fix your woes isn't the right way to get a project started. Besides, all the time spent on forum posts will nicely accumulate into a plentiful amount of time that can be spent on learning.

If there is an dev interested in building a rom, they will. No need to create some kind of placeholder containing information you think someone might want.

The open source way is to scratch your own itch.

Just on the technical side of things. If you port the cyanogen froyo version, you should simply be able to use the same drivers archos uses. So there isn't going to be any development involved, just compiling stuff.

As to your last question, I surely don't have to reply.
[Gen8 General] sibere:
I see , what are you here for ?

Well that was one of the useless posts found on this thread. Thank you for adding yours to the list :)
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Hey guys, please join us at the Developer Thread.]

Its better to have only one thread:)
[Gen8 General] coen22:
That looks very good
[Gen8 General] fisha21:
This may be my misunderstanding but I thought this guide only teaches you how to compile your own cyanogen build for the Motorola Sholes. It even states that you need a sholes with a working copy of cyanogenmod installed. This guide will only work for devices which are already supported by the cyanogenmod team, and is not a guide to build for unsupported devices. At least, that was my understanding from spending most of a day crawling around the cyanogenmod wiki.

Part of the build process involves pulling proprietary system files from the device. I guess one starting point would be to work out which files these are, then obtain the files from the archos. However, this stuff takes time to learn and I have very little to spare, like most. But then, neither am I asking someone else to do it, or sitting waiting for it.

If it comes, it comes...
[Gen8 General] wvl0:
Building for a compatible CPU architecture should at least give you a semi bootable ROM, after that you have to get the drivers in.

Considering we have the source and are using the same kernel versions, we can just recompile the drivers for our kernel.
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Thank, you guys!:)

Could you please joyn my Thread for CM Developement, so other guys could help?

One thread is better than two:D

Finally, guys with Knowledge work on a CM, how can i help?
[Gen8 General] wvl0:
You could help by completely taking over, 'cause I don't want a cyanogen rom per se, I just want to show people that you don't have to be a developer to compile a rom.
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Okey, i understand^^

Could you tell me a few steps to compile the CM ?, i think the drivers we'll do later:)
[Gen8 General] wvl0:
Please read the links I provided.
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Thanks:)

i've read this already, and i've see that you already compiled it, do we now just need to add the drivers and compile the archos-specific kernel?:)

On the Developement Thread we're compile our hardware to other android device, because we want to "mix" our drivers out of different android devices with same hardware components:)

we know that we've the same cpu as the shole, but where i can find android drivers?

Thanks for your work;)
[Gen8 General] wvl0:
I'm not providing binaries or anything, just half baked instructions that might or might not give you a build system.

All this isn't going to help you if you want gingerbread or example, because this only concerns Froyo. Why Froyo, because you should have all the right drivers already. The drivers are already on your devices, and can simply be adb pulled off. Alternatively, you could build most drivers from source (which Archos provides).
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Okey,thanks...

Where archos provides the driver sources?
[Gen8 General] Unmensch:
On their Homepage of course.
[Gen8 General] eagleofdeath13:
I think it's on their Git page ^^
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
@arobase40 how about reading a howto or looking at the archos website?

a howto

archos website (see section "Notice of GNU General Public License and Lesser General Public Licence")
[Gen8 General] sibere:
I just unyaffs the img files.

system contains a minimalist /system architecture with apks libs, etc...

drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K jun 2 18:09 app
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K jun 2 18:09 bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1,6K jun 2 18:09 build.prop
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4,0K jun 2 18:09 etc
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K jun 2 18:09 fonts
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K jun 2 18:09 framework
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4,0K jun 2 18:09 lib
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4,0K jun 2 18:09 usr
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K jun 2 18:09 xbin

data only has app directory with test_xxx files

I'd say that it's far for being sufficient to get a working system.

But many thanks for sharing your finds and explaining what you did :)
[Gen8 General] wvl0:
Nice to see that at least someone did more than just read my post and ask silly questions.

Yeah, it's minimalist, but it wouldnt surprise me if it booted using urukdroids kernel and a few ramdisk edits (my guess is that the partition layout is kinda different on our tablets, also you don't want to blow your original android install....).

unyaffs? cool. I thought I could mount the images, but couldn't. I realized why after reading http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Unpack,_Edit,_and_Re-Pack_Boot_Images

Nice to have a utility that works regardless of the awkward file structure.
[Gen8 General] sibere:
Was looking a bit further and those IMG look like the emulator img files.

Yes you're right , to get it working we need to do some editing in the init ramdisk.

I don't bother about my urukdroid partitions, they are backed up on my PC with tar :)

But yes I wouldn't like to destroy the stock android.
[Gen8 General] msticninja:
If you can unyaff the img to an ext4 partition on an sdcard, and make another partition for /data(make both with -O ^huge_file), it's easy to change the initramfs. I made a bunch of them before $auron started working on Urukdroid.

You'll just need to change the 2 lines in the init that mount the system and data partitions to -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk2p0 and -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk2p1.
[Gen8 General] fzelle:
And why do you need to go that way?

If you can easily use the SDE, with the safety that you can always go back to at least the original FW, why bother with the other way where you are able to brick your device?
[Gen8 General] eagleofdeath13:
They repair it only if it isn't a software problem, same thing for each company!
[Gen8 General] fzelle:
If you fry the cpu by overclocking, they have the right to reject your claim.

If the usb-port goes on your 101 they do a replace.

And this is with every device, here they just clearly state the obvious.
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
I agree with fzelle and eagleofdeath.

My USB died and I had the 101 once opened and SDE'ed but anyway... they replaced it. great! if you would just read the topics in these forums here, you would have known that.
[Gen8 General] eagleofdeath13:
They do it, maybe, but they say they don't (like every brands) ...
[Gen8 General] kitsune44fr:
Well, it is true that Archos decided to void warranty if we get problems using the SDE, but it is also true for direct install of a firmware without the help of the SDE so... there is no reason to not use the SDE.
[Gen8 General] kitsune44fr:
Well, I'm french too and it is right that I'm not very proud of Archos. They've distributed android tablets before other ones, but with a very bad technical support (answers are always the same...it looks like the answers from the Oracle support)

For the Radio FM feature of the integrated chipset, I'm not sure that it has been correctly implemented in the board. I mean that if they were not planning to use it they've not take the pain to link the integrated chipset to any antenna, so I think you would not have the possibility to get any radio station, but well, maybe...or maybe not.
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
Why would you have to get an OS ONLY issue

repaired

? If it's software, reset the device and reflash the firmware. if your stupid enough to brick the hardware by software (e.g. overclocking the cpu to 2.6 GHz or replacing the recovery system by a faulty one), come on, what do you expect? that they will send you a new one for free because you where dumb enough to brick it?

Yeah I know, Samsung is stupid/friendly enough to do this.. blah blah.. :rolleyes:

start developing or at least stop trolling about that company. call the CEO of Archos if you're not happy with the support but don't complain about it in a developers forum. it really doesn't help anybody.
[Gen8 General] fly_us:
so are we talking about develop cyanogen mod or comparing Archos and Samsung now?
[Gen8 General] Harfainx:
Comparing Samsung to Archos is like comparing an ant hill to the Eiffel Tower (figured I'd keep it French-related here lol). The size difference in the companies alone makes all the difference in how fast firmwares come out, and how much time/money they can invest in development teams.

The SDE does void your warranty, if they determine that your damage was caused by software. It does not void your warranty if you have a hardware failure, or a manufacturer defect. If you mess around and brick your device because you destroyed your bootloader, then yes, your warranty will be voided.
[Gen8 General] fly_us:
it is normal to criticise a brand, but not in a topic that discussing about something else.
[Gen8 General] kitsune44fr:
I totally agree with fly_us. We can debate about the fact that Archos is doing the things bad or not, but not in this topic.

It is about more than 2 pages that we are no more talking about cyanogenmod!!!
[Gen8 General] it's:
Oke, here are some(not all!) of the specs:

Processor: Arm cortex-A8 OMAP3630 @800~1000Mhz

Resolution: 854x480(43IT)/800x480(70IT)/1024x600(101IT)

Battery:

35IT: 900 MAh

43IT: 2100 MAh

70IT: 3850 MAh???(Note: 2 batteryc connected to eachother)

10IT: 6000 MAh

Screen:

70IT: LG LB070WV6 TD08

Camera:

A28IT, A35IT - no camera(that's easy to develop! :D)

A32IT: 2MPX camera

A43IT: another 2MPX camera...

A70/101IT: 0,3 MPX front camera ???

Sound:

Audio codec: Wolfson WM8988L

Speaker sound chip: 8JAM892

Others:

HDMI-out chip: NXP 89A85 ZSD0331（TDA19989AET）

Power management chip: 9220IRTZ H035JW

RAM is made by Toshiba (THGBM2G6D2FBA19) (256mb in 43/70/101IT)

Main controller chip is made by Micron

Programmable CLPD: ALTERA EPM240G
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Thank you and welcome here on xda:)

Good to know that there still are some people who really want to help!:)
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Okey, allright, could we please just go back to the topic?

I would suggest that we use only one Cyanogen Thread we have two..:D
[Gen8 General] it's:
As long as there is no development, we can stay here. :D

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About the FM-Radio app - I tried it on my A43IT, my BT switched on automatically, but no RDS or sounds whatsoever... Tried switching off/on BT/Wi-fi - nothing...
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
A5IT is Gen7 not Gen8...;)
[Gen8 General] it's:
There is not much difference between them... And Gen7 officially supports radio/GPS, so it could really be true that Gen8 has inbuilt GPS and Fm-Radio... However, it can also be that Archos reused some libraries from the Gen7 and "forgot" to remove some lines...

@Aerobase40,

Thanks, will try that out. :)
[Gen8 General] it's:
48IT is genloss. :D
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
I think you mean the wright thing:D

It dont called 48, but 43:)

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I dont think that Gen8 Devices has built in gps because if that would be true, archos would say this:D

but here is a video of an Archos 70 breakdown:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL7wTCBZ5m4

maybe there we can see if there is a gps module:) but i dont know much about hardware, so i couldnt find a gps ship or something like this:D
[Gen8 General] dympy:
The 43 is indeed gen8, but the 48 is the "newer" version of the A5IT.

At least, that's what they told me in the shop.
[Gen8 General] Harfainx:
The 48 is a Gen7 device, and it's almost identical to the A5IT. Definitely not a Gen8 device (based on the CPU). The only major difference is that there is no GPS in the 48.
[Gen8 General] it's:
The another major thing is the price. 220EUR for 500GB for 48IT. :)
[Gen8 General] it's:
I think I got the GPS/FM radio "issue". There is no GPS built in, but because you can connect the Archos to BT GPS module, Archos told the Android system that there is a GPS iinside. The headphones are the same for all Archos devices and also may be for prestigio etc, and some of them have built FM-Radio(vision series), so there is an antenne in all headphones. However in Gen8 there is no "converting or something" module in the tablet itself. If there is no need for such a module in a tablet, we can get FM-Radio to work...
[Gen8 General] msticninja:
The 5IT and the 48IT both have the ARM Cortex-A8 at 800mhz. In fact, I'm not seeing any difference in any of the hardware, other than the fact that there's no option for an SD card, and you can't choose the HD size, 500GB is the only version being made.

Source:

Archos Home Page
[Gen8 General] msticninja:
I swear I saw an FM Radio app in my Gen8 at one point. I know you were doing Dev at one time on that subject, but could I have actually had it at one point? I'm not gonna revert to stock FW to check, but I feel like it was included on 2.3.26 or 2.1.08. I don't know if it worked, but I swear I saw it. Am I just thinking of my HD2, or could I have possibly had an FM app at some point, whether stock or Uruk?
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
I dont see an FM app, but i dont now if there was one or not either:D
[Gen8 General] fly_us:
i got my 101 since Eclair and install every firmware since then, confirm never see FM app
[Gen8 General] trungvn1988:
Is this possible to port CM7 into Archos 101 16gb IT? Uruk is good but is still quite slow compare to the hardware of it. (The same as nook color but slower)
[Gen8 General] msticninja:
Obviously, if it was possible at the moment, this thread would have instructions to do it.
[Gen8 General] msticninja:
Not maybe, that's exactly why. So are you going to give better instructions and informations, or are you going to do it for us? :)
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
No, he's just trolling as usual..
[Gen8 General] msticninja:
Like I said, that's not enough for me. I don't have the time and energy to learn what's needed from that vague information. i have to earn a living, as I'm sure you do too. The point is that your post in this thread didn't add any more information, it just called everyone here an idiot again. I don't get into flame-wars, so I only try to post useful info or opinions.

I don't have anything to offer really. What can I give in return for a rootfs.img of a working Gen8 CM7 port?

There are many reasons to do good things, mainly doing it BECAUSE it's a good thing. Besides, I never tried to censor anyone. I just asked everyone to stop arguing and get back to discussing our options.

You're mistaking me for someone else. I read every post in this forum, and consider each one equally. I've never discounted anything useful you've posted.

Once again, that's just hurtful. He's a kid who's trying to learn, and lashes out sometimes when he gets frustrated with his inexperience. You should know better, and have some patience. How have you gotten so far without it?

None of this has anything to do with me, so i won't respond.

As far as creating a team? I was never asked, but I have always contributed anything I could, as shown by every post I've ever made. If you could give me something specific to do that was within my knowledge base, I'd do it without hesitation.
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
maybe simply because you where just blablaing around with Lennb, having a veeeery mature discussion.. bla bla

"LOLOLOLOL, ROFLCOPTER..." get over it, you trolled like a super troll and now you blame us for not listening to you? yeah, just get over it.

The only reason is my lack of time.

Wrong, when you say we are stupid and you are the master, THEN I just say you are a troll.

no, because most of the time your postings are lacking of arguments, you just hitting on other peoples faces (see your 5)) because they don't know or asked a question or for whatever reason you just have.

yeah sure, thoughts > work ? stop trolling.
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
He'll dont do. Just ignore.
[Gen8 General] sibere:
Yep I've seen that. ATM It's more an alpha version or a proof of concept, but things are working like SGX, Wifi, Touchscreen (obviously ;) ) adb and market. That's a good start and I'm gonna try to get in touch with the dev (bubu) and help at least with testing and if possible give some help with kernel bulid and dev.

Good thing for me, he's french too ;)
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
You mean bubu from openaos? Who created the boot menu?:)

he's working on a cm port? ;)

i would say: let invite him here at xda:) with a community at background all is easier.
[Gen8 General] sibere:
yes, bubu himself, from openAOS!
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Okey,thanks:) what do you think about invoting him to us?
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
@Arobase40 oh I'm sorry for having other hobbies beside hacking, I'm sorry that I didn't published my initial build scripts for CM@Gen8, I'm sooo sorry that I've done a lot of work into gen8 rooting and customizing AND all the DVB-T stuff AND sent patches to the linux-media team AND have a job which takes a lot of time because we just released our framework as a part of Eclipse AND go to the university to study AND declined a job offer by a european settopbox company because I already have a job and no time left for another one AND spend time with family and friends AND being suisse (WTF?!).. I'm so sorry that I did all the work for this and other communities, for nothing than a couple of beers... I hope you can forgive me, I'm so useless... You're so perfect!

""ROFLOLMAO"".. what an idiot.. :mad:

Finally there is someone with time and knowledge, thanks bubu.
[Gen8 General] fly_us:
well well.. grab my popcorn and put on 3D glasses..
[Gen8 General] eagleofdeath13:
You take the Gowin point by speakin' about it. Let me say EPIC FAIL.
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
@Arobase what's the point of your flaming? What's the matter (except that you're hating Lennb)? I don't get it.
[Gen8 General] Mr. Clown:
That's it, I told you (you know who you are) to stop the arguments and trolling. You didn't care about the infractions. Please don't say I didn't told you about the consequences.

@ all, who wants to be the next banned?. Please stop the argumments and trolling.

back on topic.
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
edit: deleted
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Finally we're back on topic:)

Thanks, Clown;)

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So, "where" does bubu work on the CM port? Does he alone or does he have a IRC or a other community?:) what do you guys think about inviting him?:):)
[Gen8 General] mafcov:
he's on openaos. there's also a git repository present.

http://www.openaos.org/archives/739
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Yeah i know, but theres just a chat..

Wont it be better if theres a community?:)
[Gen8 General] sibere:
He's on an IRC chan too.
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
openaos, right?:)

how can we help him beside his work on cyan?:) how we can contact him?
[Gen8 General] _BuBU:
Hi guys

Indeed, most of the time I'm on irc (#openaos on freenode)..

I don't read forums too much... some times but this is time consuming most of the time... (lot of trolling and all that stuff which deserve nobody...)

So let me introduce myself for people who don't know about me and think I'm just a new guy...

I'm supporting the Archos scene since many times... About the PMA times (4 or 5 years old).

We founded with 3 or 4 other guys a team called initially openPMA, which aimed at developing alternate Archos firmwares.. So was main contributor for some years, backporting stuff, hacking, ... to Archos devices (PMA, A604, A605, A5/A7, a5it, gen8, ...). And some behind the scene hacks... I'm one of the 3 or 4 guys porting froyo to A5IT...

So to sum-up I'm not really new to the Archos scene :) And know quite well the Archos devices...

Concerning, that Cyanogenmod Edition, as I said this is a POC, to try to make all people implied into gen8 development to join forces to make things better... openAOS's first goal is not only Cyanogenmod but more surrounding stuff.. to make things happen faster/easier...

So what I would like is not bounty, no money, (that stuff is my "hobby", I like to play with my Archos devices)... (if u really want to make donation, make donations at openaos.org... )...

But what I would really want is more people to contribute to projects: CyanogenMod, Meego, Ubuntu, Debian, .... whatever will make our beloved Archos devices better...

Now, concerning the CyanogenMod port there are several things needed:

- people with kernel knowledge that can make the kernel more stable (or backport Archos boards to newer kernels like does prahal with its incredible port for 3.0rc on A101, ...)

- developers who can make things working into cyanogenmod and/or make cyanogenmod port more stable/usable...

- people doing beta-test, reviews, documentations, or whatever which can make the project progress faster...

Anyone, with knowledges can contributes, instead of being several small teams, with most of the time 1 or 2 persons doing bunch of stuff, we can found a bigger contributor team... sharing code, finding, ideas of any "sub-team"...

Finally, as I said many times, I don't expect any money, bounty for that initial CyanogenMod or whatever... Usually, I'm quite busy with my day job... spare time is hardly lacking most of the time... so being part of a bigger contributor community will be greatly appreciated... :D

So, all of you guys working hard on great projects (urukdroid, debian ports, custom kernels...) join the forces and keep up the good work...

stop trolling, be kind and smart enough to make what everyone want: better Archos devices... (or pass your way...)

BuBU

PS: Sorry for my english or any syntax error... :)
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Hey:)

That was fast!:D

First:

Really Thank you for helping the whole Archos Community;)

Unfortuanlity, i dont know anything about kernels and such...

But i`m gonna read me in for the next weeks or so..:)

I could make a wiki page (if the port is stable and daily usable:)), i did it for Urukdroid:)
[Gen8 General] coen22:
You did a good job :)

But my archos hangs every 5 minutes if I try to do something on my archos

and could you make the buttons on the status bar a little bigger?

For a first release it's awasome
[Gen8 General] _BuBU:
audio now working

Hi

I've added audio support to my image (no full codecs yet)... but it's too late for generating/uploading a new image today for me... so will upload it tomorrow morning (french time)...

meanwhile if u have a stable kernel (including sources/patches) just let me know I will integrate multi boot stuff... to maybe fix the reboot issues or instabilities...

thx