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[HTC Sensation] sandrinopi:
Many say that the SGS2 interface is ugly and too much Iphone-like.

You think that Sense 3.0 ROMs will be ported to SGS2, so we'll have it running on s-amoled ?

Thanks

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[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
never will happen is there a sense rom on the original galaxy?
[HTC Sensation] beWater:
If software is your top priority concern, then the decision becomes real easy. Only htc phones can give users Sense experience at 100%, porting sense to sgs2 is impractical.

cannot live without sense -> pick sensation

cannot live without touchwiz -> pick sgs2

I don't like touchwiz and I like sense, however I like CM7 even better :D, therefore I go for the one that has better hardware (sgs2 IMHO)
[HTC Sensation] vegetaleb:
Can we return to topic????

For people who tried both phones:

-Is the SGS2 camera better than Sensation?

-Is the speaker for ringtones on SGS2 louder (or way louder) than Sensation?
[HTC Sensation] intruda119:
Htc has the same gameplan they had with winmo. Instead of making a big leap from device to device they make small steps. Sense 3.0 would have benefitted from 1gb of ram.
[HTC Sensation] yyhd:
I don't like Sense and I don't like TW! Haha, but I prefer Sense over TW.
[HTC Sensation] kalle788:
I really don't know which phone to buy. So maybe someone can help me making a decision :)

Which phone will get CM 7 earlier? And one is better for flashing Rom's and stuff like that.

Especially when HTC really is going to unlock the bootloader?!?

Is one of the Phones supporting the Wii-mote control app without flashing CM or some other AOSP Rom?

Thank you for your help :)
[HTC Sensation] rumpleforeskin:
how much space does sense consume from the HTC internal storage?

And also i read that the sensation has 768 internal storage (rom) but how much working memory does it have (ram)?
[HTC Sensation] dangerousp:
internal storage is 1,09 GB and RAM is 768 MB.
[HTC Sensation] intruda119:
I don't have the device but with sense running I think you left with under 250mb. I think it could benefit from 1gb with sense 3 being a resource hog. But that's all stock launchers.
[HTC Sensation] jay_993:
Dude. Think about it. You are the HTC fanboy i.e. "samsung troll in HTC forum therefore wont get flamed" that's against samsung. No one mentioned anything till you started going around saying sansux is rubbish blah blah blah. And now you are acting as if you are the hero of some sort. Think before you act. Have respect for others.

Edit sorry for for going off topic guys... him and his big mouth just pissed me off too much.
[HTC Sensation] karnovaran:
Yep. That and Tapatalk integration has lowered the level of discourse around here.

Regarding GS2 vs Sensation (as if everything hasn't already been said) - I'm choosing the Sensation simply because I've been pleased with all of my HTCs to date and don't see that changing. I prefer LCD screens, having the option of Sense or AOSP, and their build quality. The only concern I have is the bootloader so we will have to wait and see if the promised unlock option ever comes. If it doesn't, I may just stick with this Incredible even longer.
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
It's not really "ugly," it's just less integrated than Sense. It's more like Samsung's version of a launcher than an entire user interface. The specs on the two phones aren't all that different. Why don't you just get the Sensation?
[HTC Sensation] OakNinja:
I don't get this amoled hype - vivid colors is great to look at and blackness rocks, but contrast really sucks, and colors are so way off its shocking.

If they manage to merge the good things in lcd and amoled, which they probably will do eventually, then i'll jump up and down in joy.

Until then, i'll let you guys pay for the technological leaps of oled, and i'll continue to look at my pictures in at least semi-correct color reproduction on my lcd screen...
[HTC Sensation] OakNinja:
Double post - damn jumpy wlan.
[HTC Sensation] ph00ny:
Seeing how i'm in a ****ty at&t coverage area aka NYC. I'm waiting for my co-worker to pick up the sensation when it's released next week to see how quick the data service is.

AT&T data service is the only downside to my sgsii.

As for touchwiz vs sense ui, i've always preferred the stock google launcher over both but that does not mean i can't get used to either.

edit: HTC winmo veteran here too :) In fact i still have both 8525 and Tilt somewhere in storage
[HTC Sensation] elemental_1_1:
So I am getting one of these phones.

I know there are compromises:

1GB internal storage - 16GB Internal Storage

qHD LCD - Standard AMOLED

Sense 3.0 - Touchwiz 4.0

768MB ram - 1GB ram

And HTC has less battery

But I think it's possible that with all the shortcomings on the Sensation that it might be easier to deal with from the qHD screen + Sense 3.0. Because I hate touchwiz.

Will the 30% less ram make much of a difference?

I heard not a lot of games are developed in qHD so this slows the phone down a fair bit while playing... Is this true?

And is the VGA camera really bad on the HTC? I barely ever use front facing camera anyway.

Everyday use (gaming, browsing, general use, screens in sunlight - nothing to do with cpu etc.) which do you prefer and why?

Thanks :)
[HTC Sensation] Athar Mansoor:
I returned my SGS2 with a DOA, for a lil white spot on the screen (visible on grays)

In the time I used the SGS2 not really satisfied with the UI, felt lacking..

Really confused now should I go back and get another SGS2 or the Sensation, which launches tomorrow here..

The questions mentioned above would really drive the decision here..
[HTC Sensation] theclueless:
regardless of what you choose, there will be people who disagree with you; if possible, play with both phones a bit in a shop then choose; if not, decide which phone's shortcoming you can live with.

personally im returning my gs2 and getting a sensation 4g tomorrow; while gs2 is a lovely phone, the super amoled+ makes pictures do not seem natural to me, plus the weak wifi module and the phone warms up in pocket while playing music are the two biggest disappointments... touchwiz does not help either

i played with sensation 4g at the shop yesterday, and it feels like a solid build phone; htc sense is snappy, and i only notice lag when i keeps on spinning the screen pages to get the 3d overview (i spent a good 5 min doing that :p) while the screen is not as crisp as the gs2, but it is hell a lot easier on the eyes
[HTC Sensation] McT1980:
The less RAM doesn't really have much to say, it's plenty and i've never run out (not even close) when running HD games from gameloft etc. But some people say it does matter, but i really doubt this will be a problem for you.

All the games i've tested from the marked works in fullscreen. The ones i tried from Gameloft don't. So it's kinda unplayable,have to push the buttons etc a bit above the actual screen buttons. But i read somewhere that the Spare Parts app have option to make theese games run in fullscreen (not tested by me).

The VGA camera is what it is, i've used it with the "mirror" app that you get with the phone and it's ok. But how often do you use this anyway...

As for everyday use... Can't answer for the sunlight part as i've only tested the SGS2 indoors. It's ok on the Sensation, could be better but this isn't a issue for me. Shadows are everywhere! I believe none of the games u can find for android theese days will make any difference on either of theese phones. SGS2 is a bit faster at browsing, think this is couse of the gpu acceleration, but the Sensation isn't far behind and will be better once the devs get to play a bit with it.

I went for the sensation couse i don't like the way the SGS2 looks. It feels cheap and did not feel good in my hands. Also i've not had any issues with my previous HTC phones (Legend and Desire).

Theese are my opinions, some might not agree but save yourself the flamewar. I don't care and it will be a waste of time:cool:
[HTC Sensation] magnum_touchpro:
thanks for the reviews.. i was going to wait for the galaxy 2 but got the sensation cuz i needed a dual core phone ASAP.. lol.. im glad i kept my sensation

less ram and internal storage sucks..

but i think a front notification led is better than ram or internal storage.. i mean i need my phone to function as a phone firstly and led notification is at the top of my list..

this phones sexy as **** tho.. samsungs plasticky feel cant be better than the feel of the sensation..

oh yeah my battery has been great also.. i cant wait til s-off is out..and sense > touchwiz
[HTC Sensation] McT1980:
Good choice;) Hope u'll continue to enjoy it!
[HTC Sensation] ianst28:
The camera on the sgs II is set up better than the sensation ...... What I mean is straight out of the box the sensation isn't as good but if you play with the sensation settings it can be set to as good as the galaxy (I know this because my wife kept her sensation and loves it)

I haven't found much of a difference between the 2 when it comes to volume ..... Both seem to be quieter than my old nexus one even with the volume set to max ...... Actually I think I'll try a test later and see
[HTC Sensation] lepszy:
Just out of curiosity, what did you need a dual core phone for? I mean what can it do that a single core can't?
[HTC Sensation] KmGyro:
Give him bragging rights :P
[HTC Sensation] mamarda:
Advantages of Sensation:

1) Galaxy s2: no HTC sence; Sensation: Sence 3.0 (I like lock screen especially)

2) Galaxy s2: Cheap Plastic cover; Sensation: Aluminium cover

3) Galaxy s2 bigger than Sensation

Last: Everything runs smooth on sensation, so there is no need for 1024 mb Ram yet; also no need for 32 gb internal memory, when you can buy 32 gb Memory card. I don't know why u need such big memory for every day use, when you can store other information on PC... currently I have 8 gb Memory Card and I use only 5 GB from there (incl: two movies-3GB);

So I think that HTC Sensation is pretty, solid, smart device

while SAMSUNG GALAXY S2 is poor quality, ugly, smart device

the main reason i don't like galaxy S2 is its Plastic cover, and cheaply made design...
[HTC Sensation] ianst28:
Gotta disagree with the cheap feel comments about the sgsII I expected it to feel grotty and cheap but it doesn't

The sensation however was a let down considering it was advertised as a unibody I expected it to feel like the legend or the desire s both phones I have in my family unfortunately it didn't and with the other problems I had with the device no matter how hard I tried I couldn't love the device (and I really wanted to)
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
I have both and prefer the GS2 its better all round for me the Sensation just feels slower and laggy, when taking videos the colours are over saturated and don't look natural on the Sensation and it suffers badly when panning around with light exposure.

Touchwiz is ok but I never use it anyway always use launcher pro as I have for years on Andriod, Sense was good back in the day when stock android was pants but now there are so many good launchers out sense is nothing special now.

My mate is a big sense fan and has a DHD and came and had a play on my Sensation and wasn't overly impressed with it and said he wouldn't get one now as he feels its not worth the extra money over what he has now.

Part of the review on engadget summed it up for me

A long time ago, in a land far away, Sense made, well... sense. It added important missing features to the OS. But today we'll take plain Android over Sense.
[HTC Sensation] mike21pr:
its pontless to try to argue or convince some pple that overall the GS2 is a superior device. the "i dont care" excuse was perfected since the iPhone days lol

1024 RAM vs 768 "i dont care"

16/32gb onboard memory vs 1gb "i dont care"

Screen looks and performance in sunlight and viewing angles "i dont care"

overall cpu/gpu performance (asymmetrical HTC? Really?) "i dont care"

native hardware acceleration on some elements which really makes things smooth "i dont care"

Better overall camara and higher res. front camera "i dont care"

Conclusion: Sensation wins :D /thread

IMHO both devices are great and although i might get me a Sensation, i comprehend that the GS2 is a overall superior device since it fails to beat it in a lot of areas and falls short on all of the head to head comparisons. My main gripe about the S4G is the RAM... i mean, why did they give the EVO 1gb and cut the S4G down to 768?? and according to reviews, the EVO is so fast and smooth that going to the S4G after that felt painful. The extra RAM really gives it less strain in memory management thus better performance out of the box
[HTC Sensation] laegunum:
That's your opinion, not a fact. And what makes you think it's the RAM causing the difference in smoothness, rather than, say, better optimized software?

1. Could you please point out a realistic and testable scenario in which the memory runs out on the Sensation vis-à-vis the SGS2?

2. And you conveniently forgot to mention that only circa 2GB of that 16 or 32GB is available for apps, the rest behaves just like a microSD card.

3. That's a subjective assay (again). Some people might prefer a crystal clear qHD display over an oversaturated low-res one.

4. See #1.

5. See #3.

My opinion:

The appalling design and build quality of the SGS2 is enough a reason for not buying it.

(And yes, I know what I'm talking about -- I used the SGS2 for full 4 days.)

But at the end of the day, it'll still be different strokes for different folks.
[HTC Sensation] Locster126:
Talking about the cheap plastiky back cover on the sgs2?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA

NUFF SAID!!!
[HTC Sensation] iunlock:
Bravo

I own the Sensation and it's a great phone, but one disappointing thing is the screen quality and lag.

The colors are very washed and not very bright. It doesn't feel like a dual core at all...probably because it's a crappy snapdragon. Samsung makes much better phones and the SAMOLED screen is unmatched.

I can't wait for the Galaxy S II to launch for TM if it ever does....it's what I've been waiting for.
[HTC Sensation] iunlock:
Exactly. There is a reason why it was made with plastic and thin...factor in the thinness and having it not interfere with reception, why would you put anything but a flexible plastic cover? Let alone the weight....

I like the lightness of the Samsung phones...
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
There is some lag at times and you really shouldn't expect that on a dual-core phone, I agree.

With regards to the screen, it is only washed out at angles, head-on it looks absolutely fine and while the colours aren't as good, they look more 'realistic', they are too over the top on the SAMOLED.

The Sensation screen is noticeably sharper, too, which makes viewing smaller text MUCH nicer.

In direct sunlight they are actually very similar to use, which I didn't expect.
[HTC Sensation] mike2518:
so true dude! the screen is amazing, its only washed out when looking at it from an angle. but how many of us actually use the device like that? i always hold it in my hand, and look at it straight on, and its amazing!

btw Robboftw, on your sensation, do you have to tilt the phone just a little downwards when using the front facing camera? cause when i hold it normally facing me, the camera only captures my mouth and up, not the whole face.
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
Yeah, it's just because the lens is at the top of the phone and points straight forward, so in a natural position it would aim at your forehead :p
[Galaxy S II Accessories] mickliq:
Just found this - looks very nice!

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s2-dual-desktop-charging-cradle-p29886.htm

If only the extra battery was in stock!
[Galaxy S II Accessories] erazer007:
That l ooks great. How it looks seamless witht he device on and the blue light rather than a green one
[Galaxy S II Accessories] intruda119:
I just love the picture of the actual device.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] denniswcp:
i actually like how it describe in the "What's In the Box?" section :cool:
[Galaxy S II Accessories] |mpulse:
I caught that too, I wonder what the hell that means - anyone?

I really want to buy this too, looks gorgeous and does exactly what I want!
[Galaxy S II Accessories] NZtechfreak:
Really nice looking that one!

Clove a one that does the same thing, 5 pounds cheaper, but not quite nice looking. Shame they also do not have the extra batteries in stock...

...and I agree - you've got to love a picture of the phone in the dock with the phone showing itself overclocked :)
[Galaxy S II Accessories] erazer007:
I guess it might be a typo or maybe this is designed for the Optimus 2x but the Galaxy S II fits as well especially since the Optimus 2X also has the microUSB port at the sae location.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] |mpulse:
I thought about that too and the likeliness of the USB placement being similar is high, however, I'd be surprised if the batteries lined up perfectly...?
[Galaxy S II Accessories] erazer007:
Or maybe this is the other way around, its a stand designed for the S II and fits the 2x as well. So battery individual charging might not be there.

The same thing is available without the spare battery charger

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s2-desktop-charging-cradle-p29888.htm
[Galaxy S II Accessories] giokou:
It looks and is great! ;)

The price is awesome too.

I ''ll hit it!!! :D:D:D
[Galaxy S II Accessories] ph00ny:
It doesn't seem like they ship to US :(
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Venomqld:
its a nice dock i suppose you gotta take the case off your mobile everytime you put your phone in the dock..
[Galaxy S II Accessories] andro-boy:
Hi everybody.. I will be owning Samsung Galaxy SII later and

I am searching this kind of device. Unfortunately, it is still no stock.

Also, I have been searching and find something similiar in: Anymode Charging Dock with Stand for Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 (w w w . exportprive . com/anymode-charging-dock-with-stand-samsung-galaxy-i9100-p-16205 .htm).(erase all spaces to open). However when I am going to order from export prive, there is *** beside it and it says "Products marked with *** dont exist in desired quantity in our stock.

You can buy them anyway and check the quantity we have in stock for immediate deliver in the checkout process.". What does it mean? Does it mean out of stock? I only intend to order one and from the availability (48 hr), Available under 48h

Items are in stock and ready to be shipped. So, what does it actually mean?

Can you find other alternative to that? Thx!
[Galaxy S II Accessories] andro-boy:
Hi.. I have just found another altrernative: Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 USB Desktop Cradle with 2nd battery slot by Mugen POWER BATTERY. Is it good? Is the website reliable? Thx!
[Galaxy S II Accessories] andro-boy:
somebody please answer me :(( :((

thx
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Lembo:
I would love to know this even with Samsungs original case?

Has anyone found a stand that can support it?
[Galaxy S II Accessories] ValmarWeln:
Just ordered one, hope it works as well as it looks :)

@Venomqld & Lembo : You probably do need to take the case off, however there are stands/cradles that come with interchangeable cradle sizes so you can charge it and dock it without having to take the case off, I'll try to find the link for it.

Edit: the link to the dock I was talking about can be found in this thread : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1072200&page=5

Page 5 , you will find pictures there.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] 380AU:
If only that had a DC jack on the back as well, I'd snap that up.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Pkplonker:
Hi,

Have recently ordered a SGS2 and the below dock. Will let you know how the dock holds up when I receive it.:cool:

BMCdigital Dual Desktop USB Charge/ Sync Dock And 1800mAh Battery For Samsung i9100 Galaxy S 2

I found this at play(dot)com

edit: Can't post links yet as I am not old skool enough
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Vindictive666:
How did you find the dock and battery mate? Thinking of buying one, bonus is their premises is just round the corner!
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Declan79:
This samsung charger dock also give both viewing position while its charging simultenously

sent from my 2.3.3|dxjpe DJGTabs7
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Jimmy34742:
You don't need to muck with that flap to support your phone while it's in the charger dock. The flap actually does not support it; there's a lip on the charger dock that catches nicely and holds the phone quite securely whether landscape or vertical. I discovered this while using my charger dock, and it makes it much more convenient to use and change orientation to just leave the spare battery's door close.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Declan79:
Yes i know jim:) but it will be muck when i had my 3500mah charged in it. It amazed me when i using my 3500 and had the original battery "in it"

Guess what? The additional back cover gives an additional seat for s2 in this chair:)

You're right about convenience to using this korean dock

sent from my 2.3.3|dxjpe DJGTabs7
[Galaxy S II Accessories] jakoob_cz:
Works dually?

Hey guys,

anyone already bought this one? http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-...rging-cradle-p29886.htm?referer=aff_aw_102463

My question is, if this sync the phone via USB, while charge the internal battery inside phone from the external AC adaptor.

Thanks Jakoob
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Jimmy34742:
Sweet: I didn't think the extended battery would fit in that little Samsung cradle. Will the SGS2 still fit securely when the phone is horizontal?
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Declan79:
The answer is no with this battery case jim but yes with the original battery case,like this:

sent from my 2.3.3|dxkg3 DJGalaxy S2
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Jimmy34742:
Dammit! I really wanted to purchase one of those extended batteries, but I have to be able to swap between vertical and horizontal. The Samsung charger cradle is simple, small, and secure, meaning I can touch and press the phone while it's in the cradle with absolutely no wobbling. Is there something else like it that will also accommodate the thicker battery?
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Declan79:
Yes you could swap but only with standard size of battery, with this 3500 in stand position i still can touching the button. Not to mention the vertical position:)

sent from my 2.3.3|dxjpe DJGTabs7
[Galaxy S II Accessories] virtualkobe:
Got mine really cheap on obostore with a 30% discount coupon.

In the end it cost me only around 9-10€, but I must say this one really looks neat !! Even if the price (+ shipping cost) is over twice what I paid for mine...
[Galaxy S II Accessories] creamynal:
Looks nice, but i miss a little hole in the back for the speaker...
[Surround General] Unknown1313:
So i was recently given an HTC surround to try my hands at, after years of working with blackberry and iphone, and im finding this to be just a tad confusing as far as the language is concerned. The surround is currently locked to ATT and i would like to be able to use my t-mobile with it, however when looking for "unlocking" or any similar term, all i see is mass use of the word unlock for several things that don't actually remove the sim/carrier lock.

I have looked at some of the threads about flashing roms, and it seems like this would take care of the unlock, but i am not able to find a clear "how-to" on flashing roms......

I have successfully unlocked the device for homebrew apps (using wp7chevron) however, that does not remove the sim lock (as im sure everyone else knew, lol). Any help or pointing me to a guide/page that would assisst me in doing this would be greatly appreciated. I'm looking forward to trying my hand at something new to tinker with...
[Surround General] rumpagump:
you will need the IMEI code which you can get by going to the phone and dialing *#06#

then call ATT and tell them you want the unlock code, odds are they will have no clue as to what you are saying but keep talking to them and eventually they will get it and give you the code.

if they refuse you will have to pay some website to send you the code

I do not think there is any other way to unlock the surround right now.
[Surround General] 1234567188:
http://www.htcsimunlock.com/htc-surround-unlock.html

Never used the site