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[T-Mobile LG G2x] death1246:
XDA where 1 guy who makes an account and in 1 month tries to disprove 98% of G2X owners.

Yeah I think you need to look closely because people like me do not like seeing light seeking through the top corners of my screen especially when coming from a nexus one with amoled screen where in gingerbread I had to light seeking throuh the status bar corners or even on the boot.

That image on page 1 is exactly what everyone is talking about and there are even worst ones out there.

Please dont be a **** with no logical debate.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
What visual phenomena can not be explained? Halos? Seeing halos at night after Lasik is because the resurfaced area of the lens, is smaller that the entire area transmitting light when the iris dilates at night. My ophthalmologist (back in the day of CRTs) was oblivious to having his monitor refresh rate at 60hz, he did not see the flickering.

Given your experience with lenses...I know you understand it does not take anything more than a camera to show screen bleeding.

If someone wants to post a picture of the bleeding problem during normal usage, they can, you can too.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] erikiksaz:
Visual phenomena is not all purely optical (unlike halos which are relatively straightforward and optical in nature). You cannot explain everything in terms of refraction alone. And even then, the eye's a biological part, you can't treat it like a camera in every single situation.

As for the flickering of his CRT, he might have been "oblivious" to it because he never saw it. The "flicker" that you see is a function of viewing eccentricity and the lighting used. Again, you are taking the individual out of the equation.

And yes, I know that a camera will capture the bleeding. But, your average point and shoot camera, let alone the operator of the damn thing won't be able to take that picture. You'd need somebody who has a higher quality camera that can play with all the exposure settings.

And as I said, somebody who experiences the bleed knows that it's real. They don't need to prove it to anybody. And the fact that tmobile stores have been willingly taking in these bleeding phones goes to show that SOMEBODY else has witnessed these bleeds.

I'm not going to borrow my sister's SLR and goof with the ISO settings to prove someone else wrong.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spyvie:
OP, this entire 5 page thread is essentially you telling the rest of us that we really are satisfied with our defective products, but we just don't know it.

KMA
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
suddenly its 98% of G2x owners....and still without a picture of the problem in actual real usage??? Reallllly?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Spyvie, its your third post without a bit of contribution, I know you said you like to post on Twitter with short bursts of nothingness, but why bother here.

You replaced your defective G2x with a __________ ??
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Ahhhh yes we are talking the Lock Nessie of LCD screen bleeding. It is a huge illusive beast I tell you.

Any digital camera can show the problem in actual usage. A simple camera phone will also, you don't need a 1000 dollar high end digital SLR....it wouldn't hurt though.

And Yes if you do a worst case scenario test with an all black screen in the dark, you will see some run of the mill backlight bleeding.

Here is a picture someone posted of the stress test...my phone looks about the same on auto, this picture is on auto brightness, at 100% mine looks about the same, just brighter but the LCD is doing a good job of blocking the light to show black. Auto brightness is about 40% +/-

The youtube video linked in the first post is about right....its not far off from mine during the stress test. I see that video as being pretty good, considering just how bright the G2x can be set during direct high noon sunlight. That backlight is cranking, and that LCD is blocking most of it and very uniformly at that.

I sure hope you are not going to be an eye doctor because you have really bad logic skills. (If A then B) given B....does not mean A is true. Since people can return their phones for 30 days no questions asked, does not mean that whatever reasons they say is the cause, are the reason why they are accepting the return. T-Mobile is most interested in selling service, the phone is just a means. T-Mobile would rather you return a phone and get another, so long as you remain locked into their service. Comprendo? A blind person can not read the Giant E on the chart. I can not read the Giant E, this does not mean I am blind....a good Ophthalmologist could give me glasses. Get it? Is this one better or is this one?

If you pay them like 5 dollars a month they will replace your phone for anything besides dropping in water and cracked screen. For a bit more they will cover cracked screen too. (I think everyone stops and pool dunk) Getting to return based on a warranty, a guarantee, or a 30 day return policy....does not mean the phone is out of spec, or defective.

We do agree that you are wasting your time trying to get a photo with your sisters camera, of your phone...for the simple reason that during normal operations, your phone is completely unremarkable.

Don't waste your time
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jacob808:
Tombaker1 yes I totally agree with you. I've already explained the consequences that all these useless returns are gonna have on the rest of us and this great phone.

It costs money for LG/Tmobile to make and then package the phone. Returning a mint condition G2x for a very common "flaw" (for lack of a better word) that the majority of LCD display's have, is gonna have repercussions, and already the restocking fee for Tmobile handsets have skyrocketed and gone through the roof.

I'm pretty sure it's because of these perfectionists that point out something that initially is unnoticeable and when it's brought to most people's attention they want this already brilliant superphone to become "perfect" which is distorted thinking, because they become bothered until they get something "perfect" which will never happen.

Now I just hope that my prediction of Tmobile/LG cutting their losses with this phone by discontinuing it or giving less support, isn't going to materialize like how I predicted that Tmobile would raise costs somehow because of the money they lose on the returns of nondefective handsets.

And to prove just how common this screen bleed is to the majority of LCDs here's an article for this very same yet minor issue that's been overblown and exaggerated by another of these "perfectionist" that hope to attain the illusion of "perfect". Have a look at the picture and how minor the bleed is and how they need to draw a HUGE RED ARROW to bring attention to it.

http://www.cultofmac.com/if-your-ipad-2-has-display-problems-do-not-return-it-heres-why/87197
[T-Mobile LG G2x] yglup:
Tell the truth OP, you're really Tesla aren't you!?!? Wow, why ate people making such a big deal because people with defective devices are. Whether Sumone is abusing or sincere about having a defective device is none of our business to speculate on. T-Mobile must recognize this issue, because they're replacing them. Don't see that happening if not the case. Mines is broke!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] trill12:
Obvious troll thread.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sarni84:
yea dude idk think im gona have to disagree the backlight bleeding is an issue cuz let me tell u something my 1000 dollar vizio in my living room doesnt have it n thats not that much for a tv we all know, yea the blacks a lil off but for sure doesnt have it, n bro the second one nate got was pretty bad i too had one that was like that but it was my first i took it back and got one like nates and i said **** it il keep it cuz i was scared if i took that back i would get a ****tier one now do u hear how that sounds??? apple ****ed up with there ipad2's and stepped up well guess what lg better step up its bull, dude it aint anybody whining its a ****ing 550 dollar piece yea **** it aint perfect but cmon u shouldnt get any product like that imo
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
I've physically owned 3 G2x's. Initial (bad screen bleed), second (awesome), and a replacement cause I thought I killed my second one (bad screen bleed).

The one posted on the front page is like mine, normal for LCD. My first and third had screen bleeding that would be very bright in the corners and filter down half of the screen. It was VERY noticeable on any notification bar that was dark and in games/movies.

So in my case 1 out of 3 had normal minor/"you'd never know they were there" screen bleed in the top 2 corners. 2 out of 3 were unacceptable.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ashman3000:
Ok heres a real world pic, 50% brightness, normal lighted room my home screen

The point is it is real and it is annoying at times and it shows up in the '' real world''.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] allthrottle:
I've had my g2x going on 3 days now, and it definitely has screen "bleed" in each corner. Noticeable mainly on the boot screen, any dark screen (most gameloft games startup screen). It's not the worst thing in the world since there aren't many instances you'll see it, but is an eyesore when you do.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rldev:
Mine is much worse than this. I have bleeding in every corner and along the right side. I have a droid Charge i am evaluating as well. Please do not insult the Super Amoled + screen by comparing this particular IPS panel, as this IPS panel does nothing better. Blacks(are deep black), Whites, Colors, Sunlight visibility and text clarity are all significantly better on the Super Amoled +. And all without pentile matrix, light bleed and better viewing angles.

BTW, is watching a youtube video "real world"?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
I still read these posts with xda dark theme and no ads and still see no bleed. You people must be looking hard for it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] schmit:
Sorry, can't see it in that pic unless I look for it.. and then I think to myself "There is bleed there.. there must be! He says it's there. I think I see it! Yep... yep.. I see it now. Wow, that's terrible." But then I think.. how dumb, I don't really see it. lol

Try photoshopping it a bit to help me? ;) The pic probably doesn't do it justice.. It's a lot different in person.

I believe the OP has made a valid point. When I use DRAW.. I have some serious bleeding going on in the upper 2 corners. But... I'm using Bionix and it has a black notification bar at the top. I don't ever see the bleed.. Just now, I took a look... I see nothing. Then I cupped my hand over it and I had to really look for it.. And yep, I can see the same that your pic shows. But you see, I had to look for it. Without me looking for it, it has no bearing on my use. It never pops into my view when I'm using the phone... only until I look hard for it do I see it.

My bleed is worse than some of the pics people are showing, and I have a black notificaiton bar.. I don't see it throughout normal use. Ever. But then these threads come up, it reminds me it's there... I then "look for it" and surely, I find it. It's a mind game. Some people are too picky and are downers... looking for problems.

That's NOT TO SAY that some have a lot worse bleed issues and it is VERY noticeable in regular use. I believe them. But I also believe that some people are making something out of nothing.. "I paid 499 for it! I expect it to be perfect!" Ya ya ya... me too. It isn't perfect. Life goes on...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
You know when I notice the bleed....just now I looked at my black status bar, at a very low angle while the phone was flat on a table. When I moved it a Tad it was totally gone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] phburks:
All the photos I've seen people post of this issue have been of the phone with dark surroundings, as if it is in a dark room. For those that are having the issue, can you see it under normal lighting conditions, like in daytime light or in a room with the lights on?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
Tilt your phone to the point where you can see the bleed in the corner. Its basically the point where no normal human being will ever hold their phone to use it for any reason whatsoever
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ashman3000:
Well I am keeping my phone coz its fast and I love it. But coming from a storm 2 and the iphone those two had zero bleed so this takes a little getting used to.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ballin1:
This is b.s. I've been through 3 g2xs and all of them had "screen bleed" and I didn't have to consult anything, tilt anything, look at it from an angle, look at it under "normal" conditions, whatever. Its was freakin clear to me that it wasn't normal right from the boot up screen. Believe me, if you've got one that has this issue, you know it. My first one...I didn't even know this was an issue. I saw it and decided to search the net to see if it was an issue, and it was. But regardless, I'm not stupid. I'm not trying to cause problems. I want to like this phone! I don't want to deal with returns. But its definitely a problem that's readily apparent if you've got this issue. So don't go telling me that I'm picky or i'm looking for it. That's just nonsense. And this is a $500 w/o contract phone, mind you. That's like buying a $2000 LCD tv (high end). If you think a high end lcd tv would have these types of issues, you're straight stupid.

Sorry bout my tone, but I just found the OP's comments totally patronizing.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
HAHA...Engadget just said they picked up on some light leakage on the Sensation!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] southerncomfort76:
I have minimal bleed on the corners. But not enuff to complain about. Way more pros than cons imo with this phone, so I aint bi*$&ing about the small crap
[T-Mobile LG G2x] TechnoHippie:
...ya for now. If I would you I'd think about that real carefully - because that will, eventually, get much worse and end up causing the screen not to work at all. If you have the problem now, over time it gets worse. It might seem like a small problem now but I would go ahead and exchange it because by the time it quits working 100% you wont have that option anymore.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] crazythunder:
get your own blog dude. that was totally ridiculous. and if you have your own blog, we'll have the added benefit of seeing less posts like this here.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
It wasn't the screen...

Our review handset had a small crevice in its lower left side that allowed

the backlight intended for the capacitive Android keys

to leak out. This is a problem that will only matter to you if you're actively looking for it, but it does detract from the phone's otherwise sterling build quality.​
[T-Mobile LG G2x] RevenG:
I think the fact that people have the time to go around and troll the site is absurd. Why don't you crawl out of that cave, a.k.a. your mother's basement, and go get a girlfriend? And, no, an online cyber girlfriend doesn't count. Or maybe you can't get a girlfriend, or any friends at that, because everyone finds you ostentatious and abrasive. Everyone except your mom that is.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] erikiksaz:
You guys are right. This troll thread is getting out of hand.

Lack of comprehension only makes it worse.

"I sure hope you are not going to be an eye doctor because you have really bad logic skills. (If A then B) given B....does not mean A is true. Since people can return their phones for 30 days no questions asked, does not mean that whatever reasons they say is the cause, are the reason why they are accepting the return. T-Mobile is most interested in selling service, the phone is just a means. T-Mobile would rather you return a phone and get another, so long as you remain locked into their service. Comprendo? A blind person can not read the Giant E on the chart. I can not read the Giant E, this does not mean I am blind....a good Ophthalmologist could give me glasses. Get it? Is this one better or is this one?"

Ok, I told myself I'd leave this alone, but this went from purely argumentative to personal attacks. And that is sure as hell not appropriate or justified in this situation. Do this for me please:

1) search for every screen bleed thread

2) of those threads, look for the ones specifically stating that the user has exchanged their phone for one that has hopefully less bleeding.

3) note the wording, especially when they use the past tense of "exchange," as in the used phone was replaced for a newer phone.

The issue isn't whether or not Tmobile is willing to accept the returns, of course they are. The point that you did not see is that the people above, gathered from #1-#2, exchanged their phones for a very specific reason (screen bleeding). They specifically stated this to the tmobile dealers. If the dealers had not noticed this screen bleed, they would not have allowed the exchange. It's as simple as that. Each store is owned by Tmobile, but it doesn't mean that the management overseeing each individual store is going to allow infinite exchanges based on make believe, nonexistent problems. They'd be flagged by corporate if all the sales went right back to the main inventory.

If the reason why these people were returning their phones (screen bleed) was deemed to be completely fake/false, they would have just offered a return. And of most of the threads from #1-#2, very few users actually returned their phones, which is probably most likely due to their being no real dual core alternative to the g2x as of right now.

OK, that's it for me. As I sit here, under 250w compact fluorescent lighting, with screen brightness set at 25/40/100%, I guess the screen bleeding that I am seeing at the top left/right, and bottom left hand corner of my screen are not real.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bdkinney:
Wow....that was kinda....ostentatious and abrasive...

Just sayin'... :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bdkinney:
Ok, here's the deal, as I see it...

There are those who got decent screens with the normal minimal amount of screen bleed (I am thankfully one of those).

There are others who were given phones with an unacceptable amount of screen bleed. Many of them naturally returned those defective devices, sometimes more than once (likely due to the replacement phones being drawn from the same bad production run).

And then there is a third group that find some small (normal) light leakage while looking for said light leak in a pitch dark room. It must be a problem because their Galaxy S didn't have it. And so they return their "broken" phone only to find the next one "defective"...and the next...and the next...

I think the first group represents the vast, silent majority. The second group is very real (T-Mobile has acknowledged as much) and they deserve to receive a device that is every bit as good as the one I'm holding in my hands. They paid good money for it and should get what they paid for. The third group is a problem. I think they are a small minority that muddies the waters...some of them protest more vigorously and loudly than people with real issues. And they inspire people like the OP to claim there is no screen bleed issue...when, for some, there clearly is.

Just my thoughts...nothing to see here...move along. :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Bogus logic, given the age of the phone, nearly everyone has had the ability to return the phone within the 30 day grace period. T-mobile, by contract, pretty much has no choice other than to replace a phone claimed to be defective in the 30 days. The fact that phones are being returned is meaningless to any determination of a problem. They used to ship LCD monitors with 3-8 stuck pixels and that would be the tolerance you would have to accept. That was the state of the art then. You could just return it to the store you bought it at within 30 days and get the replacement....but after that, you were not going to get a warranty replacement. Dell and others started branding their panels as premium and giving out zero dead pixel warranties.

Some of these new Gorilla glass LCDs have slight bleeds, which people can view under the worse case scenario testing, but as I continue to read this thread, not a single example of real world issues has been shown. There are always trade-offs in design, I want the Gorilla glass though.

It should be understood that the people returning for this horrific issue are just getting a replacement with the same manufacturing variables. Most these chronic returns are just looking to kick the can down the road in order to get the next generation phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Gotta say, I don't really see what you are complaining about, beyond dispelling the entitlement generations expectation of perfection. (We all get trophies!)

I see you picture exposure, and it really is pushing the whites out, look at the 79 as is so bright it washes together. Then I look at the top corner, and really look to see what it is you are complaining about, and sorry I just don't see it.

The display is more for action, color, and readability. You complaint is none of those. You display a static image on Plasma you get burn in....are all Plasmas defective, or is it a trade off understood for Plasmas other virtues, such as response time and viewing angle. Get up close to a CRT and you notice that there are interlaced scan lines flickering away.

I honestly don't see the problem in your screen and photo, but I do think it shows just how trivial this problem is. If you don't want the superb color reproduction of IPS screens (still the best for skin tones) go with a AMOLED screen that puts out ZERO light in the black sections. I won't say the graininess of AMOLED is a defect however. you take your tradeoffs for what technology you go with.

Your mostly black wallpaper shows just how trivial this horrific bleed issue is.....I do thank you for providing a picture of something besides pure black.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
I have not used or seen the next generation AMOLED. I thought for sure I would get a pone with that Samsung technology. But in this case, I wanted T-Mobile, I wanted the hardware power to go to 2.4+ without any worries. and the Galaxy SII is just not going to be out on this network for months and months. The HTC Sensation is the only comparable phone for this network coming out in the time frame of my need. (5 months later is 75% of the way to the next generation these days, you take a wave at some time, if not you are sitting in the water on a plank.

When doing my research I came to real all these comments about the horrors of this screen bleed, and then I get the phone, I see the youtube video, as being as trivial as what I have. Remember when Sony and Samsung had LCD clouds? The did the hardware fix to drop the backlight down when displaying mostly black....heck LG could do that.

As I gaze upon my dark wallpaper, I realize movies and games and the web are all not static blacks images.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
<<--- about as useful as a spell checker complaint....besides yourself having nothing of consequence or contribution to say on the topic...this is a G2x forum, the screen is a concern on the phone....if you don't care...move along.....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
That is actually a "white glow" on the blacks of an H-IPS screen when viewed off angle. Some IPS have a purple hue on black off angle. Essentially off angle the LCD is not blocking all the light to the viewer. It usually only is a factor on angles where you would not really be able to use the LCD for reading anyway.

But it a liability of the IPS technology. A typical TN home monitor off angle would show massive color distortions, but they are the fastest gaming monitors around, and most people looking on angle for a desktop....so you take your tradeoffs.

SEE this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eA2IjlotJU The NEC PA241 is a $1200 monitor for professional photographers
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
If you have access to an old iPhone 3G....look at it off angles, it will turn purple, some directions more purple than others.