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[EVO 4G General] rolfd:
I've just deleted 30 flaming and trolling posts.

Stop the childish stupidity.
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Dear scott, I understand how important it is to have the most current software available for your device and I am pleased to inform you that the Evo 4G is scheduled to receive the 2.3 update later in the second quarter. Updates to the HTC Sense experience and htcsense.comare independent of upgrades to the core OS in our phones. Please monitor htc.comfor further information as we get closer to the update availability. The following is a direct quote from our CEO “There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience.” We currently don’t have information regarding which phones will be unlocked; Keep an eye on our official website and official social media outlets for announcements about which phones will be bootloader unlocked. To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW22ENA002649. Sincerely, Jessica HTC Want to see what others are saying? Have a question to ask other HTC fans? Become a fan of HTC facebook.com/htcFollow us on Twitter twitter.com/htcSubscribe to our YouTube Channel youtube.com/htcExplore our development resources developer.htc.comWe are unable to receive replies to this email account. Please visit us at htc.comif you have any questions or need further assistance.

From HTC some phones are locked still they seem to be unlocking a few but no list yet of what is and isn't .
[EVO 4G General] Mike Fitz:
Certainly happy HTC is listening to their customers. I'm still not that hot on the whole 3D thing, but when they start rolling out unlocked EVO 3D's I'll be thinking hard about upgrading. Unless Sprint announces something with similar specs and no 3D in the meantime anyway...

:D
[EVO 4G General] Action B:
You cant think of a single thing to do with 3D?

Anyone on here that has a girlfriend *should* be able to think of at least one cool thing to do with a 3d camera....

That being said, I can't think of any other thing to do with the 3d feature...
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
To the strip club for you then, just make sure to post some of it :D

though not on here of course
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Dudes, I may be in the minority here but, I gotta 3yo kid. I would love to have 3D vids and pics to share with her grandma and granddad. They don't live close, and only get to see her on holidays. I know, totally nerdy parent crap, but it is actually kinda a selling point, for me. Still thinking imma wait and see what happens with the nexus 3, but 3D actually sounds pretty damned cool to me, especially since you can upload content to youtube now.
[EVO 4G General] kostov22:
i believe it said the devices after the 3D will be unlocked....3d is already locked..i guess it is too much work and money to unlock it now....
[EVO 4G General] Android 17:
All it takes is an OTA update after the phone is released.
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Thats pretty funny a great way to use the 3d camera :D
[EVO 4G General] :
Anyone ever wonder if it was hardware on the 3D that locked down teh bootloader? IF its software then its onl a matter of time if it drops locked. lol ^.^ Sure the first part people won't like.
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Lol nice pic for a troll :D tho HTC did for a fact stated they were gonna unlock the bootloaders. However they haven't said which phones would be unlocked that is a fact. Some are still locked . Hopefully they will open the 3d which will be grand.

But until HTC throws a list out there saying the 3d is unlocked a lot of people are wondering which phones there unlocking .

No list as of yet :(
[EVO 4G General] senji75:
Just happy that they are doing something about it :)
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
The absolute explosion of their Facebook, twitter and email accounts occurred upon finding out that the 3D would be encrypted.

It will be unlocked.

Mark my words.

fixxxer2008 posts nothing but negativity.

Don't know why, don't really care.

It's all he does. Ignore him.
[EVO 4G General] rombold:
Does this mean that the unlocked phones will basically be rooted out of the box?
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Sweet man well I would hope so :D. Been writing HTC to see what has been going on with the evo OTA and so on. They confirmed it coming out this month June .
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Lol no not that easy :D
[EVO 4G General] rombold:
Didnt think so but non locked bootloaders is close enough.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
The thing I don't get is this, HTC has ALWAYS had a "locked bootloader."

This uprising was about the bootloaders being encrypted and signed.

HTC clearly states they will "no longer be locking their bootloaders."

If you take that word for word, the bootloaders won't be locked at all for now on.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faDol:
i spilled water on my phone while i was sleeping woke up to hours later to find it extremely hot that i couldnt touch it to take the battery out " not kidding " i left it for 12 hours in the sun but phone didnt boot but luckly after 18 hours the phone could boot

everything seamed to be okei at first but after 2 min of just playing in teh menu i noticed teh phone is getting hot i checked battery tmo and it was at 45 then after 5 min gone to 50 and another 5 min and it goes to 60 and the whole phone is so hot and when u touch the sd card slot it nearly burned my finger ,

also wifi and bT arent working

i took the phoen a part i found that BT IC is burned and its the cause of the extreme heat

no i want to get a new motherboard but searched online and couldnt find one does any one know where to get one online
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mellovia:
Hi, you know..

You can buy a device on ebay.. Broken.. You can pick up more piece that you need like motherboard??

So,

Have a trick for you for the next time...

Accessories:

- bowl

- rice

- your phone... Any device.. Any fw and any OS ;-)

Procedure:

-- Take your rice and put a pretty good quantity into your bowl..

-- pick up your phone and remove battery sd card etc..

-- put all the pieces of your phone in the bowl of rice

-- make sure it is covered and set the table.

-- wait 3-4days.. And enjoy..

Have nice day :-D

Mellovia S.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faDol:
i couldnt find any broken gt i9000 in ebay they are all vibrant or 4Gs or other US sgs types :(
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyray1990:
HTC is now going to keep thier bootloaders unlocked they just released on Facebook

""There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC"

Figured i would share this with the Thunderbolt Community
[Thunderbolt General] Ovrclck:
Just saw this on Edgadnet!! HTC, um you rock! :D
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
I'll believe it when I see it
[Thunderbolt General] Maxamillion:
Will the sensation be unlocked?
[Thunderbolt General] Retrogress:
im happy, but will current phones get this>?
[Thunderbolt General] Ovrclck:
Only time will tell I guess.
[Thunderbolt General] keith.mcintyre26:
What's your malfunction Motorola?
[Thunderbolt General] mcmillanje:
Awesome... credit goes to jcase and everybody who mailed in I guess... still to be seen if everything will be unlocked, but definitely promising news.
[Thunderbolt General] nerozehl:
Wonderful news!
[Thunderbolt General] krusty46:
Implies it's all phones moving forward. No mention of current devices.

"Today, I’m confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices."
[Thunderbolt General] thetwiztidfreak:
I bet the number of HTC devices on Verizon will drop after this. They don't like it when they can't lock u down VZW has been the wors t about locking phones down even before they got Android devices
[Thunderbolt General] redtechjunky:
So for those crying about HTC locking bootloaders because US users brick our devices can now taking the crying to mommy lmao ,

key word "our"

Sent from the Swag ThunderBolt ADR6400L with some GingerLove (SuperStable Gingeritis VIII, Sense 3.0 addons = Winning) using XDA Premium App
[Thunderbolt General] dreamcaster012:
If the Inc2 or TB can be unlocked in the next few weeks, I'll buy one in seconds.
[Thunderbolt General] CmcNsm:
I think at&t has the most locked down devices, most of their phones couldn't sideload apps.
[Thunderbolt General] obstacles can kill:
Exactly. I think the roles have reversed in that department at this point. Verizon has invested too much into Android (especially with the DROID line) to let something like that which only affects the hacking community lower their product line. It would be product suicide for them based on their current standings.
[Thunderbolt General] animez:
I can't say that I see that happening. The TBolt is actually the first smartphone I've had that's not run a custom rom (yet). The TB is my 6th HTC smartphone on VZW, and I'm pretty sure it won't be my last.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] nmyeti:
I also don't see Verizon giving a rip about this, and I bet HTC will implement it with an OEM fastboot unlock command that leaves a trace so that they know it has been unlocked.
[Thunderbolt General] nkd:
I doubt the current phones will get this.
[Thunderbolt General] Matthew_STL:
hip hip hooray
[Thunderbolt General] yakitori2:
this is awesome. Hopefully other companies will follow
[Thunderbolt General] mike.s:
Your claim has no basis in fact. I can't recall any Verizon phone which has truly been locked. I used Nokia ones for quite a while, and they always had the access code set to "000000," you could get into the tech/programming menus with no trouble. That was true even after they forced manufacturers to adopt their "red" interface. Verizon would also turn off features (like the ability to load non-VZW ringtones, or to tether), but that's not "locking."
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
Not true by a long shot. Google for "verizon blackberry locked gps." Verizon initially locked out their blackberries from being able to use GPS for anything except their applications (mostly their way overpriced navigator). It was purposely locked down in the firmware by Verizon and unlike most phones, you cant root or unlock or hack a blackberry really more than just removing apps from the roms (everything is signed, etc). Even if you paid for Verizon Navigator they still didn't open up the GPS for anything else so it was totally locked down period. To compare how locked down Blackberries are, take the Droid X and then add on the fact you can't mod anything without paying them $100.00 a year for the privilege to develop on it and you're still limited by only making new apps, no actual modding (so there's pretty much no development community other than the guys that make a living off it).

Verizon was basically sued over doing this and forced to open it up to everyone (it wouldnt even work with blackberry maps ffs -_- ). Anyways my old blackberry 8330 curve only worked for GPS with blackberry maps and nothing else (no google, etc) because verizon never cared to push a complete fix (even after the court case was won). The only way to get GPS on it for third party apps was to get an external GPS device and tether via bluetooth.

If you don't want to google, here's a bunch of people complaining in a blackberry forum about it back in 2008ish http://www.blackberryforums.com/gen...n/118147-why-does-verizon-lock-their-gps.html

Bottom line, Verizon defended their claim that GPS was a feature that they should control for their own "Feature Added Services" similar to how they rant about tethering now (though GPS doesnt flood the network with data, it's still money Verizon would like to have just as they would for tethering). However, 99.9% of the community was in favor of open GPS and unlike the tether controversy, the evidence against verizon was far more obvious that they no real justification for locking it other than $$.

On another note, verizon would regularly push annoying "sponsored" apps to your blackberry in the form of icons on your home screen. They wouldn't install anything until you chose to click on the icon, but it was still annoying. At least you could hide the icons.
[Thunderbolt General] thoerr:
What about all the bloatware vz that comes stock with no way to uninstall without root. Similar to the blackberry crap.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
Since when has the Thunderbolt not been unlocked?
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
The thunderbolt is only unlocked by means of an engineering bootloader and older firmware. The stock firmware and bootloader still haven't been cracked.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
I know, and it's still unlocked.
[Thunderbolt General] TheScribbler:
I have been running a custom rom, generally dasBAMF since I bought my Thunderbolt in April. I went through the relatively painless if tedious unlocking process developed and documented in the XDA thread. Without my intervention, I would never see my wife or son doing the same. With an unlocked bootloader a lot of this 'trickery' would be removed and it would (perhaps) open up more custom roms to more folks. It is about choice and I am all in favor of an official open bootloader.

In terms of contract openness, every carrier would like to make a bunch of extra bucks from for example a tethered usage charge. So ALL carriers would prefer that the phone is as locked as possible to limit these services to their cost+ models. So this will be a forever struggles.

Perhaps some of you as old as dirt like me remember when home phones were wired by the "phone company" (AT&T) without jacks and without the right to use your own phones and equipment. They fought a long time to keep this revenue stream open. Telcos don't changes, they just try to find new ways to make a buck.
[Thunderbolt General] herooftimeloz:
If the carriers make a fuss about this, I wouldn't mind if the they sell it locked but HTC then offers an online tool to unlock it...similar to what Samsung (or was it LG?) is doing.
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
Not really. My understanding is that it would only remove Step 6 of the rooting guide where you need to flash the eng bootloader at least in regards to the Thunderbolt, granted that's probably the most likely place for something to get messed up. Most people still wouldn't want to both with wiping their phones by downgrading firmware to gain root.
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
It doesn't matter how they did it. We are using up to date software and radios. the only thing that I THINK is old is the engineering bootloader. And that's how you unlock all HTCs except for the nexus one, an engineering bootloader. Will they give future HTC phones the OEM fastboot unlock command? No one knows.
[Thunderbolt General] Mr. Transistor:
Can someone elaborate on the details of what this means?
[Thunderbolt General] Shumthang:
Awesome :)

Sent from my TB yo.
[Thunderbolt General] vargo911:
[Q] a few..

How are they ( HTC ) going to implement this?

OTA?

website software download?

And will we see this happen this year??

How much easier is this going to be to Root and Update new Roms to the TB?
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
No one knows. At least not on this forum
[Thunderbolt General] nmyeti:
Not exactly, if they unlocked the bootloader your root steps would look like this

ADB Reboot bootloader

flash clockwork recovery via bootloader in a PG05IMG file.

adb reboot recovery

flash any rom you want or a superuser package, etc.

About the only thing easier than this is Odin on a Samsung (and that's only easier because getting adb up and running sometimes is a pain on a windows box).
[Thunderbolt General] mike.s:
Absolutely true. It's just you don't know what "locked" means in reference to cell phones. Hint: disabling a feature is not locking.
[Thunderbolt General] AndroidGraphix:
Very good news. Good bye motorola.
[Thunderbolt General] miketoasty:
Alright well guys just called HTC (Slow day at work) and may have a minor update.

Asked the Rep 2 questions.

1) Any info on the Gingerbread update?

Rep: No information at this time

2) Any info on the bootloader?

Rep: Yes we just received a memo about that this morning. HTC will be unlocking the bootloader on all devices.

Me: Any timeline on when this may be happening?

Rep: No all it says here is that we will be unlocking the bootloader on all of our devices.

I don't know if I am taking this out of hand but sounds like HTC may be releasing an update to actually unlock the bootloaders, not just on future devices. He read this straight from the memo he received. I don't know how long we have to wait but to me this sounds pretty promising.
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
So if locking one out of gps to the point you cannot enable it because the firmware is locked/encrypted in the blackberry phone (the bootloader in android terms) and the software is totally proprietary doesn't make the phone locked? Aside the fact that once Verizon was found in the wrong, they never totally unlocked GPS. Pretty sure lock an disable are synonyms. You can say "we have disabled access to the computer" just as well as you can say "we have locked access to the computer."

On a tech note. You disable a feature in a phone by turning off bit(s) e.g. true/false booleans. You lock something in a computer or hell, even a door lock by using a boolean value of on/off so for a computer, another bit. Sure sounds the same to me.

So what is your definition of locked? I would love to know. The only thing I can think is you somehow think disable means you can reenable it somehow. There was no way anyone could have ever reenabled the GPS themselves on Blackberry. It was about as likely as "unlocking" the bootloader on an android phone.
[Thunderbolt General] mike.s:
It's not mine, per se, it's simply how the term is used with regard to cell phones. Locked means that the carrier has tried to prevent the phone from being used with other carriers. GSM phones are often "SIM locked," there is/was a big market to unlock such phones. Sprint used to lock their phones so they couldn't be used on the Verizon network. Verizon has never done that.

(I don't know if Sprint still locks their phones. It used to be that you could put any CDMA phone on the Verizon network, if it was unlocked. That changed when the government started requiring all phones to support E911 location services, at which point Verizon stopped allowing that because they had no way to know if a phone they didn't provide supported it. Until that time, you could do an ESN change via the web, VZW didn't care.)

I'm guessing you're young, and have only had a cell phone recently - the use of "lock" as I described goes back 20 years.
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
I'm 27...lol...but I'll get off your lawn for you ;)
[Thunderbolt General] AndroidGraphix:
I sent HTC a message thanking them for keeping their bootloaders unlocked and it didn't take long for them to reply with gratitude. I urge everyone to do the same. If HTC keeps this kind of customer support up, it won't be long until iPhone is a thing of the past.
[Thunderbolt General] Fadingintofall:
Awesome news. I think htc just earned my loyalty for life.
[Thunderbolt General] dreamcaster012:
I emailed HTC about unlocking the Thunderbolt and Incredible 2 since they announced the Evo 3D will be unlocked. Here is the response:

Dear Michael ----,

I understand the importance of knowing which devices will contain unlocked bootloaders. We currently do not have information regarding which phones will be unlocked. Keep an eye on our official website and official social media outlets for announcements about which phones will be bootloader unlocked.

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number (-----).

Sincerely,

Jeffery

HTC

If you really want proof I'll post the picture of the email, but I figure the information isn't great enough to warrant me putting the picture up. :P
[Thunderbolt General] mikeinrichmond:
Yea, HTC kinda punted on that one. Sounds like they do not plan on unlocking the Bolt..
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
We already have it unlocked, it really isn't that big a deal if they don't do it, you can do it yourself.
[Thunderbolt General] cstrife999:
That would be ATT until now they didn't even allow side loading...
[Thunderbolt General] Mrperf3ct:
Sad. Just sad
[Thunderbolt General] gitku:
Poor moto... D1 restored my faith in moto... Everything they made after that took it right away.. Wasted talent trying to be like the "Jobs"
[Thunderbolt General] loonatik78:
Getting around any of the crap or locks typically put on a blackberry was exceedingly easy! No, there weren't custom OS's for those things, but there were plenty of release candidate os's out there for them, for Verizon and other carriers. The one I ran on my last BlackBerry was a candidate release for Vodafone and it worked great and had no lock at all on GPS. Verizon certainly has made efforts to strong-arm it's customers into falling into whatever half-baked money grab they've cooked up, but getting around them has largely not been an issue for the properly motivated. To most, the kind of hoops you have to jump through to get root on a Thunderbolt sure would constitute being locked down. Nothing was easier than tossing an OS on a blackberry. There was virtually nothing stopping you at all! As for Blackberry stuff being signed... That never stopped me from dumping all kinds of OS's on mine. One of the reasons blackberrys got so popular is because they ran a commonly known language and lots of people could write for them. That's why businesses liked them. The signing is only required if you're grabbing stuff off the app store. As far as I know, there's still hundreds of apps out there for those things floating around websites outside of the app store.
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
All sorts of OSs? I dont think anything runs on a blackberry except blackberry OS (assuming that's what you meant). I already searched some time ago about trying to install linux on my old blackberry since it's not too useful now.
[Thunderbolt General] loonatik78:
There's folk out there that spliced together different OS's to make something sorta new. As for what I meant about "all sorts of OS's", I did mean all sorts of blackberry OS's. Not all carriers stuffed their devices with garbage and locked down features. Good examples would be Vodafone and Alltell. Custom wasn't really to be had, but just like custom ROM's for Android, it's just a game of compromise between features and quirks.
[Thunderbolt General] eriscat:
Maybe with Gingerbread release

Perhaps HTC will release the upgrade with the unlocked bootloader. It would sure make a lot of people happy. :)
[Thunderbolt General] kwiggington:
And that is why we will never see a nexus phone on vzw

Sent from my Vanillabean Thundercracker
[Thunderbolt General] jjpike:
If Verizon decides to eventually lock everything down then I'll just boycott Verizon. The nice thing is there is more than one carrier out there and I can't stand all of the bloat the they force on you with a stock phone.
[Thunderbolt General] kwiggington:
Sad thing is you know verizon not going to stand by and play second to at&t they will probaly buy sprint

Sent from my Vanillabean Thundercracker
[Thunderbolt General] jjpike:
You know what really ticks me off? I don't see that Verizon forcing us into using their apps is much different than Microsoft trying to force us into using their browser. They were sued for it and lost.

This isn't a phone... it's really a handheld computer that works as a phone. We should be able to put whatever we want on it and remove whatever we want from.

Wow. Rant over. Barbeque time!!!!