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[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
As you keep getting the same minor issues with your returns you might want to accept that its the nature of the beast. Other technologies have zero back-light bleed...specifically the Samsung Galaxy Series. The new 2nd generation AMOLED screens are supposed twice the effective resolution.

Plasma TVs have negatives over LCDs but many think they are best. But they also use them for watching movies in darkly lite rooms. An LCD in a bright daytime room will blow away a plasma screen.

You probably can get 10 more G2x's and not be happy, as others have. The phone is what 5 weeks since launch? Return it, find alternative.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Dang....Made me look. Here http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/ I just did a quick skim did not see the bleed being mentioned....but the screen is PVA or Super TN. Click the video on the viewing angles....its seriously compromised on that measure.

Basically its not an IPS or better screen for sure. And the viewing angle problem is way worse that these backlight bleeds....seriously. Saddly the SII is too far away for the T-mobile....if I eliminate the Sensation (I have not yet) it means the G2x will be a 2 year keeper.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
LOL superstition of technology. Not everything is a cancer. If I dent my car, the dent does not spread and eat the car.

Backlighting is evenly lighting a plane of glass, some light creep is not going to suddenly jump out as the boogie man.

If the bleed was going to creep and eat the phone, hopefully it would do it at like 10 months....so I can then get a warranty replacement with a newer model. LG would definitely be eating millions of phones if it were to be getting worse over time. I suppose if you are smoking some purple diesel, it may look like its getting bigger.....yah dude I see it toooooo
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Maybe you and Crazythunder should get a room, I started a thread on a topic, a topic that relates category its in, and is germane to the G2x by all regards. When I start a thread I stand by it....if you don't want to waste everyone's time, don't read the stuff you don't want to read, and don't for a second think that anyone cares that you think that something should not be talked about.

Don't bother to read something you don't have the energy to understand, and don't care enough to contribute.

Another dweeb thinking their lack of caring merits them announcing to everyone they want to take their toys and go home. Woopie. Just another narcissist thinking their lack of interest is something others care about.

But one thing darling, they say it to my face, I know it, I am responding....they say it when you leave the room, you have no idea of how least well you are thought of. BTW what did you say about my mama? Say it again

Wait, wait...seriously, nobody cares what you think its what is said as soon soon as the arsehole leave the room....and guess what......

-----sorry for the digression
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
1. You missing the point that light bleed on an LCD is indeed happening, it always does, check out these edge lite LCDs on some you can see the bright white very near reflection from the source.....the point in the OP is to what significance it is. And except for worse case scenario testing, pictures which are linked in the OP, there has not be a single picture of real world problem.

Now I understand that you have said you don't have the proper equipment to document the problem. But any camera phone or video camera can capture how a screen looks.

The antecedent does no prove the precedent. If blind, can not make out the big E in the eye chart. A person can not see the big E in the eye chart, well you can not diagnose that the person is blind.

If defective, will accept return. Return accepted....Does not mean its defective.

You are unschooled in the retail channel and the obligations of a binding contract. T-Mobile will hold people that take the phones and do not use the full term of the contract...to a monetary early termination fee. That will be binding. A contract needs quid pro quo. Part of the contract is they will accept return under 30 days for any reason. T-Mobile must accept the return. This phone has been out for just over a month, most if not all the returns will be under that mandatory obligation.....if they did not honor it, they could not bind the other party months down the line for early termination.

The first post shows and reflects that screen bleed is there, the thread is to what significance it is. You for example can not even capture it with a lens. Compare the trade-offs of the HTC Sensations higher resolution but worse viewing angles to the G2x excellent colors and angles, and brightness...but with minor screen bleed that is basically only a factor when people are hunting for it. Can I say that....at this point yes....nobody has shown otherwise, and its beyond your ability to use imaging equipment to find. I would love to see a picture of the problem you have with the phone.

You are viewing your phone under 250 watts of CFL bulbs....what is that 10 bulbs or something, that is some blinding stuff. Error? Well details count. (If A then B) given B....does not mean A is true. Its kinda like math, not really debatable. A lawyer will tell you that T-Mobile's contract REQUIRES them to take the return, a business man will tell you its good business to keep the customer in the contract, and happy. Sorry but your logic is just wrong, the fact of a return makes no remark on quality within the 30 day grace period, and debatable 30 days +. We do know that T-Mobile is changing their return policy costs for phones outside of 30 days.

I have no doubt that you have insignificant, yet perceptible screen bleeding of the magnitude that you say can not be captured by cameras. This is a far cry from being the issue its been made out to be. And something not likely to have much of an impact in real usage....is that a stretch?....okay...take a picture.

This thread was to boil it down....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mingkee:
Mine has minor bleeding.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
That's what mine looks like. And I never see it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] halojinx:
Whats a real world issue?:confused: Everyone uses their phone differently. not everyone works a 9-5 job where they have plenty of lighting. My friend works graveyard shift and when he goes out to break surfing on youtube on his G2x.....not pretty. I use my phone sparingly during the day but when i get home that's when the "real world usage" comes into play. I play my games, surf on XDA, then watch videos while im laying down on my bed. Its just annoying when a video loads/gaming and you see bright lit corners. when i play games i can see light seeping through from the sides of the G2X. but to OP that's nice that your phone is awesome in your "Real world scenario" but to some of us who lives in the real world its a little different. and even with all the pictures/video people upload, I believe that you are still going to stick to your opinion so this post probably doesn't even matter.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bluemoon737:
Had the G2x for 2 weeks and sent it back to return to my Vibrant. On most points I agree with the OP about the screen. Mine was fine under normal usage and I returned it due to signal hold issues as well as the generally VERY buggy nature of the phone (and yes, TMO and LG have both admitted to the bugs).

The one point made by the OP I do disagree with is the screen's performance in sunlight. It just plain does not compare with the Vibrant in this area...there really is no comparison. SA+ should still end up the clear winner in this area.

I figure the patch will be out by the time the Sensation is released and I will make a decision about giving the G2x another go or trying the Sensation. I could really care less about who makes my phone...I just want one that works. If TMO was getting the SGS2 I would probably go with it, but it would appear the Hercules is going to be TMO's version...just too big for my tastes.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I noticed when using the Automatic setting it will never pump up the brightness to 100% even while in direct sunlight. I have the Vibrant as well and when I put both phones to 100% in direct sunlight, the G2X was significantly brighter in direct sunlight. In normal lighting conditions, I liked my Vibrant display better though which is why I can't wait to get my hands on a Galaxy S II variant.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] death1246:
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wait there are tons of pics in this thread no reason for me to take a picture dip ****.

its not viewing angle its just the led is not getting properly covered behind the glass.

**** happens so stop compaining about complainers its like telling a retard he's not retarded.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] EmceeGeek:
This whole "issue" is BS. People need to stop complaining about dumb stuff. Nothing can be done!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] VisedMonk:
Wow. Can't believe I just read this entire thread. IMAO, here's what this thread boils down to:

You're an idiot if you think there's no LCD bleeding. No, you're an idiot because all LCD screens have some bleeding/glow and you're a moron for not knowing that -- PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAAPEN. No, you're a moron because if you hold the phone at a 124.487 degree angle and look for it, then you see the bleed -- AND I DON'T NEED PICS TO TELL YOU WHAT MY EYES SEE. No, not true. You don't hold the phone at a 124.487 degree angle in the real world. **** you, you're a moron. Don't tell me what real world usage is because everyone's is different. No, **** you. No **** you, ad infinitum...

That's an hour of my life I'll never get back. **** me.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mingkee:
My HTC MT4 and GTab also have minor bleeding too. Moreover, you never seen the most horrible bleeding...

My Nokia N73 had 4 big-fat dot bleeding on the bottom of LCD (it's illuminated by these 4 LEDs).
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ericc191:
I understand that it could be due to IPS technology, but maybe LG shouldn't have bothered using that in a phone if it was going to look that bad in low light areas. I've owned many many phones and this was the first time I noticed any bleeding. Maybe to you it's acceptable, and that's fine. It is not acceptable to me.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
I still can't see the problem.

G2x with CM7 and faux kernel
[T-Mobile LG G2x] busab:
Spot on.

I am one of the ones that got a good screen. I do have bleed but its only noticeable in a dark room with a dark background which I know is totally normal for a LCD. It was a little hard getting used to at first coming from a super amoled screen but that was expected.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] samomamo:
Can it get any worse on real world use?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sarni84:
yea mine aint that bad but if i hold it a certain angle i see at the top under where it says tmobile where the screen starts i have that crack of light along the seam sux....but i dont ever hold it like that so it doesnt really bother me whatever tired of all this screen **** just wanted to point out i had that too
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
See now that's a legit issue. That's a crazy white spot.

G2x with CM7 and faux kernel
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sarni84:
lol yea dude thats legit
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Yup, thats the first legit issue, I have seen posted. There is no way I would keep that device. I would definitely exchange it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] joe75:
this is the biggest waste of thread on the whole forum!

screen bleed is a "known" issue, nubsauce. >_>
[T-Mobile LG G2x] SuperDeform:
IPS-LCD vs a iphone 4 display?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] death1246:
XDA where 336 posts makes you an expert in. Nothing.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] butterbeam:
I don't see bleed over when I play games or movies. I only see it when I'm on an all black screen. Now how often am I on an all black svreen? Umm only like very rare. If you see bleed over during a game, then you got better eye sight than superman. Even on our 55in. HD lcd tv, on an angle there's some bleed over with an ALL black screen. So if you are unhappy with the G2x. My suggestion is to buy something else. I've had mine since release date and I love it.

By the way, if you're playing a game and see bleed over, umm you're not playing...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] nraudigy2:
I had screen bleed on my first one and exchanged for an almost perfect phone. :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Took me 3 to get a perfect one.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] v8dreaming:
I wish mine looked like that. If it did, I wouldn't have any problems with it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] v8dreaming:
That is how LG asked for the pictures to be taken when I sent them pictures of my phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] v8dreaming:
I did read the op and that is how LG asked for the pictures to be taken.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Androidfreakz:
The whole screen bleed thing is over rated, can't wait for issues to pop up with sensation, evo 3d, and

SGS ll. I
[T-Mobile LG G2x] phburks:
I was just curious if the problem shows up for anyone under more well-lit conditions. I can see it on mine when I'm in a really dark room and the screen is black, but that's the only time.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Dameon87:
The only time you will likely EVER see bleeding is in a dark room with dark backgrounds (Black primarily).

I personally think people are making a huge deal out of something that isn't that bad. =/
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sl0play:
I have the "ungluing" on 3 of 4 sides on mine. I dont mind 95% of the time. It does bother me a lot when I'm reading books on Aldiko in night mode in bed. I will get over it. This phone is oodles better than my Vibrant, but truth is the only thing I really miss about that phone is the screen. I bought this one on craigslist and the person I got it from didn't get it at a corporate store so they wont exchange it or I would try to get one with less of the light leak.

I'm not one to fight about stuff on the internet so believe it or don't, it wont take the ham out of my sandwich.

p.s. Lol @ VisedMonk, that made me happy.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ericc191:
First of all, it is not over rated. Think back to the last phone that had this wide spread of a bleed problem? It was the Glacier and HTC has since fixed it. Props to them.

LG won't acknowlege it as an issue, but I guarantee you after the next couple batches, there will be no more bleeding on the G2x.

Lastly, you have no idea what you're talking about. The SGS2 cannot have this issue at all. Why? Because there's no backlight on that phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Suprah:
Your right. Ppl are just petty. Expecting every device to be released perfectly. You can rarely see screen bleed unless you your in cwm or rooting phone. The return the phone if you don't like it.... Simple. Saves you a lot of time instead of wasting your life away on complaining about bleeds
[T-Mobile LG G2x] regP:
damn this thread is still going...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] RevenG:
If LG expects me to pay $500 for the phone, then damn right I'm gonna be petty with the screen bleed.

Bleeding LCDs are from poor building and quality control. It is something that SHOULD NOT happen with higher end devices. Even when it does, at least acknowledge it as a problem.

p.s. Don't watch Tim Burton movies on it because the bleed will annoy the f*** out of you with how dark the movies are. :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] katiepea:
Op is worst troll ever. Reported

Tmobile has already admitted its a real issue
[T-Mobile LG G2x] infinityhombre:
I work for Tmo I will exchange any phone that means I get to keep my commission unless it’s clearly damaged (physical or liquid). Return/exchange policy is 14 days on contracted equipment (upgrades and new activations) 30 days in CA or 30 days if you have paid full price for the device. I will and do charge the restocking fee for a return that is NOT defective and I WILL NOT open all my phones so you can pick the one you like. We have phones in the store for you to test so you can see how it works and if you like it that’s why they are here. Granted not all devices are always the same but they will always be similar. Returning your phone is almost always a placebo effect. I have a G2x the same device I ordered on day one and yes in the dark with %100 brightness on an all black screen I can see light creep. It is the nature of the technology my 47” LCD TV does the same thing. Just because we accept your return does not mean we accept what you claim as a known issue. If so many people were exchanging these phones for this issue it would be listed and we would be told to handle exchanges in a specific way. As it’s not listed on the intranet I highly doubt it’s an actual concern with normal users. Remember this form is filled with POWER USERS not your everyday customer.

T-Mobile G2x - Known Issues

VERSION 7

Created on: Apr 14, 2011 6:01 PM by ----- Last Modified: May 17, 2011 1:37 PM by -----

The following are known issues, tips, and design features of the LG Star, which have been identified during testing.

Device hardware (battery, keys, power, screen, SIM card)

•	Roaming icon displays when the customer is in a T-Mobile coverage area

•	Extend battery life

•	Low Battery Life - T-Mobile G2x

Edit: I also recall a post on the MT4G forum about "did you get a good screen or a bad one?" It's just how LCDs are.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] katiepea:
I've had 3 g2x's, the issue was so bad on the first two my gf actually was the one that wanted to return them, and she's a novice user. Sorry but when we returned the phone the rep told us that he was aware it was an issue and let us pick a 3rd one of our liking before leaving the store. Glad we didn't get you as our rep. Besides the bleeding there are also several other issues with this phone that I consider crippling. http://www.talkandroid.com/42075-what-is-going-on-with-t-mobiles-g2x/
[T-Mobile LG G2x] infinityhombre:
And the next customer that comes in to buy a NEW phone and they have all been opened and the stickers removed would complain that they are not getting a NEW device and I couldn’t fault them. If the phone is faulty I will replace it no problem. I have had only one returned because of the battery over heating and in the end it turned out to be a $0.99 car charger from eBay that he was using. The average user does not consider this an issue remember when you read xda, android guys, etc you are reading content created by a critical power user. I'm not saying you did not have an issue but most people don't. Reboots and battery life will be addressed in an update that fixes the bad battery driver and crappy code by LG. Those are not hardware related.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] katiepea:
Me either but is that my fault? The phone is half a grand, I'm already settling for what I've witnessed to be unacceptable battery drain and rebooting. I can't at least settle for a screen with minimal bleed? If the issue is so bad that my gf notices it I'd suggest tmobile and lg do the same. Shes not nit picky about this stuff. If customers have to open boxes, then something needs to change, and not at the customer level.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] RevenG:
I'm happy I never had a rep like you. If I did I wouldn't need to worry about screen bleeds on my G2x. Probably because I would be using a Droid Charge on Verizon. Calm down and mellow out. You're a rep, not the CEO.

When a consumer isn't happy, they leave. When they leave, T-Mobile loses money. When T-Mobile loses money, you lose your job. So try to be nicer.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] philthyman21:
+1 smh
[T-Mobile LG G2x] *Omnipresent*:
Your list seems to be incomplete and or out of date. Just because light bleeding isn't on your list now, doesn't mean it wont show up on a future updated list of g2x issues. Light bleed is the least of t-mobile and lg worries. Overheating and random rebooting is a much more serious problem imo.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ickster:
OK I'm in now...Seems like you are awful aware of an issue that "most

" people don't have. I'm perfectly willing to give things a chance with this phone.But I'll be exchanging my second one tommorrow.

But these reboot issues first have nothing to do with whether you are a "power" user or not. And second whether it is hardware or software, it still affects usability in a big way. I'm having real world issues with these reboots. Twice my calls have been ended with a complete hose.

As far as reboots mine is rebooting every night. I would not even know except my sim card is set up to ask for a password on power up.

I try to be reasonable and good natured about it, but it cost me real money to return it the first time. I face it again tomorrow with this 2nd one that is only been on since friday. If #3 develops problems am I still an "unusual" case? When do I start to think it is a "known" issue? And the fact that you can't get one at T mobiles own site is still suspect to me.

I am not bad mouthing this phone. It just seemed like you are discounting that there really is an issue here. As we wait for it to be resolved, some quietly, some loudly, some rudely, some repeatedly posting the same thing over and over, some even unaware that they aren't the only one, be assured it IS a pain in the butt for those of us in it. Real people who paid real money. And if I could not return mine and the best answer I had was "coming in the summer", I'd be upset.

And never mind all my time involved in setting it back up the way I want and having to start Angry Birds AGAIN LOL.

If I get a third one with issues, I will definately move on to another phone. Screen bleed or battery issues are not my problem. Rebooting, some with hangups and laggy behavour and a one time crazy loud buzz needing reboot are my issues. My first only had a reboot problem, but three strikes.....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
You sound like an asshole rep that i love to rip apart.

G2x with CM7 and trinity kernel
[T-Mobile LG G2x] freakboy13:
this thread needs to be closed. pointless and redundant. Tmo has admited issues. end of story.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
POS, if you can not read the OP, and figure if you want to participate in a thread, why bother? T-mobile has made no remark on the LCD...and the falsehoods that you are spreading is the exact reason I titled this thread as I did....you can not even take a picture of a visual problem....amazingly 8 megapixel camera phones can not snap a image something you see...stunning technology fail for the sensor, who makes that? Canon, Hitachi....lets write a letter.

Would you like to give any link where LG said their was a problem with this phone's IPS LCD 4 inch screen, under gorilla glass??? That would be beneficial, or if you are just making stuff up, you could fess up to that too. If I was aware of it I would update the OP

As to the bleed which is the topic here, if one is attempting to be a video-phile any 4 inch screen, its kinda a joke, and then to label this level of bleed as horrific is just silly. If you want to watch movies as a prime function, why wouldn't get the AMOLED, it has perfect blacks, and AMOLED has the best pixel response times.

The point of this thread is the significance of the issue, not what is discoverable in worst case testing. Much like the radiation breeze from Japan....its measurable, it exists, but what does it mean in the real world in North America. It means we have incredibly sensitive measurement devices, parts per billion. I can stand in a completely dark room and register a problem....is that even what 1% of users are doing?