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[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
New message from HTC:

I also know, that when Vodafone release a phone update, it is produced by HTC, they send it to Vodafone to approve, and then HTC release it on Vodafone's behalf.

I would IMAGINE (not confirmed) that if HTC unlock all the Sensations, it either be via an OTA (they already know how many Sensations are out there via Vodafone) on a flash before shipping. I'm sure they will cater for both! I certainly hope so! They would be mad to not unlock the Sensation though, since they are unlocking the EVO 3D. Both are their current flagship devices, and they need to prove a point :)
[HTC Sensation] *SanSiro*:
HTC didn't mention wich phones will have unlocked bootloaders and what about

the hardware NAND locks and kernel locks?

Or did I miss something?

anyone???
[HTC Sensation] rdfry:
Hope it's true so I can retire my G1.
[HTC Sensation] mattmulford:
Wow... you are a better man than I for not doing so a long time ago
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
you think that's bad? my buddy is still rocking an original iPhone on tmous network. He'll be upgrading (finally) to the Sensation
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Haha what the hell, he sent the same email to someone asking about the EVO 3D. Hopefully it's not a generic reply to everyone and he actually means it.
[HTC Sensation] sorin129:
Yes but now we have another problem with T Mobile USA if the merge with AT&T this phone will become a brick more or less (no 3G or 4G) I wrote a thread about it
[HTC Sensation] rdfry:
I have had it since Oct 22 2008, kept root on it thanks to JesusFreke and have a CM 2.2 rom on it, I was going to buy the G2 when it came out, but Because of the problems with maintaining root on it, I decided not to buy it. Then I was going to buy the Optimus 2x untill the anoucement of the Sensation. Then when they said that the bootloader was going to be signed, I thought uh oh now this phone is off the list.
[HTC Sensation] rdfry:
It won't matter if you are still on contract AT&T will have to give you a compatible Phone.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
My thanks will be in the form of a purchase of the Sensation if it's truly opened up.

It was a business decision for HTC. So I'm not gonna go crazy giving them thanks. I'll just continue being a customer of theirs as long as they treat me right.
[HTC Sensation] malybru:
Hi,

I have just spoken to HTC Europe about the unlocking of the UK Sensation.

He said "That there is nothing set in stone(at the moment),as to whether this phone will be unlocked"

and to "please check back in a couple of weeks"...

:(
[HTC Sensation] DSensation:
Are you sure?...

I heard the CEO said that the decision has been made.

Well now we can buy it without worry :)
[HTC Sensation] malybru:
Hi,

I'm just quoting what he said based on an internal e-mail from which he was reading.

I know they announced that all FUTURE phones will be unlocked.

But he could give me NO assurance that the current ones would be.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
HTC really has not offered details to their statement yet. As this article mentions, even HTC may not know the full details of their plans yet.

It's not like they gave us a full statement that detailed their plan. They gave a short statement and many are guessing their own details into something that so far has no details.

I'm waiting to see what they do, but may not wait very long. All I know is, until it's open for full customization, including loading radios at will, I'm not buying. (Opened by HTC or 3rd parties such as developers here.)
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Well technically, the HTC Sensation 4G is an unreleased device. That should constitute as new, yeah?
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I totally agree with you :) .
[HTC Sensation] slimriffer:
Hi people, so my first post on the xda forum...

I'm using a desire hd with coredroid 6.7 so I have a damp knowlidge about rooting and flashing... and am holding the brand new Sensation from my boss in my hands!

So I assume I am one of the first who holds his fingers on it and I dont know how I can check if the sensation is locked or unlocked! (Only registered for this, and had to lough oabout the XDA noob clip wohle registering ;-)

So please tell me how I can check it out and I will do my best ;)

I would test anything related to rooting flashing and co. as long I dont end with a brick...

By the way I'm from Switzerland and the Sensation has a Swisscom branding on it...
[HTC Sensation] sjgore:
Welcome to XDA! :)

Afraid not, a lot of us on here have had our Sensations for almost two weeks now! :p

It's locked. It's far too soon for any new phones to be affected. If you really want to check, install ROM Manager from the Market and try flashing a ROM.
[HTC Sensation] slimriffer:
ok great, so I am THE noob mentioned in the clip :rolleyes:

Was confused after reading the latest posts... so there is no success jet even with rooting the Sensation?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
As the bootloader is still locked you can't root the Sensation (YET hopefully)
[HTC Sensation] alexp999:
What I dont get is that there are custom roms out already, how do they even know they work, when no-one, not even the creator can flash them?

:S
[HTC Sensation] madnish30:
Like all you guys me too am hoping that Sensation releases with unlocked bootloaders ( where ever it hasn't released ) and there is an immediate update provided by HTC for the sensations which have already been sold.

But, since the statement said that they shall be unlocking from now on, we can't be sure of anything.

All we can do is wait. I'm willing to wait a bit to buy the phone - rather than buy a device with a locked bootloader just when all other devices around shll be free and unlocked -- that will be a BIG bummer.

So patience is the key ;)

If any of you receive any official confirmation please post ASAP, so that we can all celebrate and party - and then get the device of course.
[HTC Sensation] sjgore:
Official confirmation has been received by several people.

One such person posted here in this very thread.
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
Hopefully this is the reason for the delay for TMOUS. They want to release ours unlocked?

Wishful thinking...
[HTC Sensation] madnish30:
Oops, I must have missed that post.

But, IIRC Peter Chau only confirmed it for Evo 3D.

So you guys think it's a safe bet to go ahead and get a sensation ?
[HTC Sensation] Ghisy:
Reply to my tweet to HTC about this: "Good question. More specific details will be shared soon." :(
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Hopefully...that's what I first thought of too when I heard about the week delay.
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
It could be a lack of stock issue also. It seems the 15th is their official date for all stores but the premium stores might see stock earlier... maybe even on the 8th. All speculation... except for the 15th date of course.

Let's hope it's a lack of unlocked bootloader stock that pushed it to the 15th! Just combined both conspiracy theories into one. ;)

If you are expecting it with an unlocked bootloader... no it would not be safe. We have no idea yet when they will come unlocked or if they will ever. We can also only hope that they release something for us to unlock it if they are locked.

Personally.... I'm getting it anyway. Sense 3.0 and the speed of this beast will keep me happy long enough to wait out devs and ROMs. If I were a betting man... and I am... I would put money on this device not being locked down by the end of the summer. I might even bet on it not being locked down by the end of June.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I think some nice T-Mobile employee will leak to us whether the bootloader is locked, before the 15th.
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
We hope! Of course they usually get all their info the same way we do. I'm buddies with my local store after rooting and ROM'ing their phones for them... and it's usually me telling them the new news. :rolleyes:

-Edit-

They are great though at helping me wade through any BS T-Mobile confuses us with.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
update... htc will send ota unlock.. good news
[HTC Sensation] madnish30:
Source please.

Not saying you are lying but just want to be sure ;) :D
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
lol source the fake htc page... lol
[HTC Sensation] madnish30:
You fell for it ?

Or are you spamming this thread ? ;)
[HTC Sensation] madnish30:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14427888&postcount=144
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
i fell for it
[HTC Sensation] madnish30:
Like the person I mentioned in the post above ;)

Never mind, someone started a fake HTC Support page.
[Verizon Droid Charge] hoppermi:
Hold volume up and home buttons and power up to boot to recovery.

I did not discover this, just found it buried in a thread somewhere and thought it should have higher visibility.
[Verizon Droid Charge] boostedjti:
Awesome find. Thanks!
[Verizon Droid Charge] papi92:
Great job
[Verizon Droid Charge] khanfuze:
Thanks!

On another note the menu back button is not working for me in cwm. Is anyone else having this problem?
[Verizon Droid Charge] imnuts:
Yes, for some reason CWM is not recognizing the button mappings. It is on my TO-DO list :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] Manjews:
So I take it this is working for everyone else? I am still having no luck. I have tried every button combo possible.
[Verizon Droid Charge] hoppermi:
I hold the volume up and home key and then power till the samsung logo comes on, then release power. About 5 sec later I release volume up and home and it boots to CWR.

Hope this helps:-)
[Verizon Droid Charge] boostedjti:
If you scroll through the menu 3x it will enable go back. Once you select an option it will show up on the menu
[Verizon Droid Charge] lowery23:
Thanks OP for this info. Was able to test on a friend's Charge and it worked. Scrolling through the menu 3x also enabled the Go Back option in the menu.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Manjews:
Omg I love you. Lol

Thanks works great.

Now if only we could use backup and restore....
[Verizon Droid Charge] ShotgunSam:
Why wouldn't you be able to?
[Verizon Droid Charge] hoppermi:
Anyone who has tried a restore has a brick atm :-(
[HTC Incredible S] alchemist316:
HTC

‎"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
[HTC Incredible S] Breadwinka:
Saw this on facebook so happy hopefully they will give us something to unlock older devices or give us the keys to the castle :D
[HTC Incredible S] LeanNSupreme:
Great to hear that they're listening to criticism from their consumers. I wonder if they'll provide a way to unlock devices that are locked currently.
[HTC Incredible S] Breadwinka:
Ya I hope so shouldn't be to hard to do that really all they have to do is either give us the RSA key or make a program that flashes the bootloaders to be unlocked :D
[HTC Incredible S] syahrul37:
What would happen to the sold locked htc device?bring back to them to unlock?:confused:
[HTC Incredible S] cmstlist:
I would assume it requires them to create a signed OTA or RUU update for existing locked-loader phones, which would then include the code for an officially sanctioned unlocking agent. Anyway this is all very exciting. If the T-Mo US Sensation comes out as an open phone it's high on my next-phone list.
[HTC Incredible S] playbeasy:
I for one welcome our unlocked overlords.

Sent from the future.
[HTC Incredible S] NardVa:
Good win but it want mean nothing if HTC doesnt go back and unlock the phones already locked.
[HTC Incredible S] scmasaru:
Good for HTC, bad for XTC...
[HTC Incredible S] mazinya:
You mean bad for the people who bought the XTC
[HTC Incredible S] sabret00the:
Sadly there's no news on whether or not our IncS will be unlocked or not though.
[HTC Incredible S] missile0407:
I think we should wait for HTC for the next.

Because it just a current decision.......for now

HTC will have 2 ways to unlock(I think):

1. Use OTA update to unlock

2. Use Sony's advice (sign up to SE, and SE will give u unlock code)
[HTC Incredible S] sheyden:
Just had a small chat with HTC, and of course they couldn't tell a thing. I guess we just have to wait and see what will be happening.
[HTC Incredible S] alchemist316:
I think they will there would be just as many pissed off people if they didn't unlock the inc s the policy wasn't stated all future phones it said the dissolved the bootloader policy meaning the phones that came out will most likely be included ..

But for now I think it stands EVO and sensation are yes inc s no idea .

But my orig post on fb to start it all up talked about inc s ..

But 3d and sensation became the topic very fast ..

I emailed the same guy who gave me info on EVO 3d just now so patients ..

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[HTC Incredible S] Exanimus:
I wrote on their Facebook page and asked about exactly that.. waiting for them to answer :)
[HTC Incredible S] John Anderton:
So did I :)
[HTC Incredible S] kattara:
Not really bad as the older phones are still locked. Thus XTC will still make money off them...
[HTC Incredible S] alchemist316:
We.don't.know if HTC will unlock the current models but if they do xtc for HTC devices = what's the point anymore ..

But until they announce it we have no idea but Mr Chou said no longer locking devices its a very undefined answer to my origanal requests on facebook.

if u look was sensation inc s and EVO 3d but as I said the focus quickly turned to just sensation and 3d so only time will tell

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[HTC Incredible S] Jerry Lan:
I dont think so.There is no offical file i've seen.
[HTC Incredible S] jjdoctor:
whats making you guys worried? The actual Feedback was mostly from those who had locked devices. Its they who were after HTC to unlock. and its on their wish HTC has decided to unlock bootloaders..
[HTC Incredible S] LIG8$P33D:
waiting

happy to hear that HTC Finally decided to unlock its locked devices... but when and how !!! remains a mystery...
[HTC Incredible S] alchemist316:
Most likely ota but this news of it not coming till the end of the month Idk anything can happen

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[HTC Incredible S] djbenny1:
locked devices

person 2 posts above me - how do you know they are unlocking locked devices?

can you link?

i checked facebook but no updates.

thanks
[HTC Incredible S] alchemist316:
There's emails by HTC floating around stating the unlock of the 3d for now also the deley in the 3d release is odd as well maybe my protest caused an issue lol either way it will be unlocked even if we gotta wait a little longer

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[HTC Incredible S] samrit86:
Hi. Sorry, am a newbie here. What does 'HTC locked' mean?
[HTC Incredible S] alchemist316:
An unlocked bootloader means you can use custom roms that you find for you device here on xda if you want more details I can give you exactly what it is this is just the easy way to say able to customize
[HTC Incredible S] sdxda:
No word yet? Would like my S unlocked :)
[HTC Incredible S] wpra3:
just wait for this man http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1115210

its more 'visible'
[HTC Incredible S] alchemist316:
Its device specific he doesn't cover all HTC devices so evo3d and others may not work but other people are working on the 3d
[HTC Incredible S] ftgg99:
I love the title of this thread... very crawler friendly.
[HTC Incredible S] alchemist316:
LOL yea hows it going on the bootloader anyways any headway

infected evo
[HTC Incredible S] Cardiiiii:
HTC's reply on Twitter.

"We'll be releasing more details about unlocking bootloaders in the 'near future', so stay tuned."

Who knows how long 'near future' is.
[HTC Incredible S] doctorsax:
I'd bet money that AlphaRevX will be released before HTC unlock the bootloaders themselves... then we won't have to worry about it!
[HTC Incredible S] jandari:
Just got this message from HTC support about Incredible S.
[HTC Incredible S] alchemist316:
Nice although I think xda could do it faster lol
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
yeah i would bet on that aswell
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] searius:
Hi guys!

Is possible to use the stock keyboard of froyo 1.2 to the CM rom.

I found the LatinIME.apk somewere but I can not use it.

Any suggestion?
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
HTC

‎"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
[HTC EVO 3D] animal7296:
WOO-HOO.

I was going to get the EVO3D anyway but this makes it better.
[HTC EVO 3D] Goodm7sn:
OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] wildgillis:
seriously..........i knew htc wasn't stupid
[HTC EVO 3D] markandmyia:
What is the source of this quote?

I do not believe this.

sent from my rEVOlutionary mik4.6 on Tapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] B-Mod:
This was posted by HTC on their Facebook page............
[HTC EVO 3D] waynebike:
Sweet, yet they didn't say anything about the 3D being unlocked
[HTC EVO 3D] XxDjbluexX:
http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
[HTC EVO 3D] monkeychef:
If the 3D isn't unlocked right now because units have already shipped, then there will be an update when the phone is released to unlock everything. If that isn't the case, then HTC is almost as bad as Moto.

Also, I think this is in the wrong thread...
[HTC EVO 3D] markandmyia:
Could you provide a link?

I can't find it on the world wide web.

Thanks

I am a flasher, it's not a hobby... its what I do!

....sent fromTapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] simon.ponder:
You really think they are gonna risk flashing a bootloader through an OTA? If it's a true statement, it probably pertains to unshipped HTC phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] markandmyia:
Thank you

I am a flasher, it's not a hobby... its what I do!

....sent fromTapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
Probably not but they could just as easily put up an ruu.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
They update the bootloader and radios all the time, nothing new there.
[HTC EVO 3D] roar109:
here: http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
X so you think the inc s people are good amung others

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[HTC EVO 3D] fowenati:
hopefully this will take effect on the EVO3D. I havent heard anything confirming it though. Guess I'll just have to wait to find out.
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
That was why I started the fb part of the protest then the petition came it was insane after that but it got done 95% was involving 3d cause xhausx posted the status of the hboot and recovery..

So i would assume so

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[HTC EVO 3D] kpkimmel:
it was confirmed via email...the evo 3d will be unlocked....
[HTC EVO 3D] Mr.Shroom:
Great news. Do you think you could post the text they used in the email. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] kpkimmel:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1934416953868&set=o.101063233083&type=1&ref=nf
[HTC EVO 3D] jedinegotiator:
WIN!

HTC has a new respect from me. Can't wait to get my 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] dkotoric:
can someone post the email here, I don't have facebook and it won't let me view it without an account
[HTC EVO 3D] ty080279:
here you go

10 chars
[HTC EVO 3D] idavid_:
Lmao... Look what it says under purple text :D
[HTC EVO 3D] jhuff83:
3D will be unlocked.
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
Great

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[HTC EVO 3D] Greasy Joe Bick:
I also received an email from Peter. He confirmed that the evo 3d will be included in the unlocking process. HTC has made me a life long customer.
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
I think HTC is mad at me lol

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[HTC EVO 3D] x7nofate:
great, now on 100% I'll take htc evo 3d, cant wait
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
We got a lot of brand new members since the facebook event good to see but yea.

It's funny cause I ask a lot of HTC users that are not devs or on xda they now know what bootloaders are and are very thankful that we all pulled together myself being up 3 days LOL but this is great news I can't wait till it drops w.e. that is ???

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[HTC EVO 3D] thebeardedchild:
You guys don't even realize how jealous you make us Motorola Atrix users lol. Needless to say, when AT&T gets a beastly HTC phone (hopefully the Holiday) I'm jumping off the motorola ship ASAP!
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
So there staying firm with there policy huh ?

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[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
The Groubal moto petition was almost to 10k last night.. My last moto device was my beloved StarTac with the slim battery and stub antenna :D so I'm not up to speed on things in the motor camp.. Has there been a total inundation of discontented customers on their FB page? If not there should be.

I have to say I've never seen, first hand, such an active outcry via social media before HTC's FB from 5/24/11 to 5/26/11. That was pretty awesome, particularly how it reached people who couldn't know or care less. I saw someone post on their wall today "Thanks HTC for not doing that lock thingy". They don't care but they know HTC does care about their customers. I would love to have been a fly on the wall in an HTC board room when they started to see a small counterculture potentially influencing hundreds of thousands of consumers.

nostalgia
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
True it was great to see a lot of people who had no idea Bout bootloaders,recovery or anything like it but they showed interest that's why I made a point to use the xda memebers to help the people understand to spite people posting who cares ... Well I cared Nd many more did as well i must have posted and told people about signed files at least 2000 times ..

And it worked ofcourse it never would of worked unless the dev friendly people were not behind the masses to inform them about what all this really was lol..

MOTO Idk if they will ever change HTC changed with about 8000 signing the petition but who knows ?????

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[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Agreed... I caught the post seconds after it was posted here that started all of this. I followed it closely. I hit the facebook page early on and got to see the entire thing ramp up in activity to a fevered pace. It was really awesome to see. It felt strange...'cuz I knew they _had_ to respond, this was just too big and visible to ignore. Then the activity fell off a little, but it still kept moving. There were some regulars that operated in overlapping shifts to keep the pace up, but what was amazing was that most of the activity on that page alone WASN'T from the few of us hunkered down in front of our battle stations.

The whole time I was thinking the same thing you just mentioned "omg I'd love to see that board room right now"....I'd love to know how that went down, the different ideas thrown out, from good to bad to evil to outright stupid. Or was it an obvious "Well guys you know what we have to do" met with a room full of nods. Or were the non-tech upper-management types simply refusing to give in to 'these damn hackers' or whatever? Ooh I wish I knew.

Either way it was really cool to see. Sure, we didn't take down an oppressive government--it's just a god damned cellphone. But it showed the kind of power that a massive (or just vocal) group can have in this day and age.

I just wish the same could work for the government. I think we'd see far different things happen if the politicians decisions weren't abstracted and contorted through layers and layers of bureaucracy...but I digress.
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
So right by that but it is one of those things were people would need a spark to motivate them to action it seems anyone in history who has tried was shut down dies or killed .. sad to say it but people with opened understanding in this country and most others are the minority ....

Back on topic kinda it was amazing for a while I thought maybe I should let the rest of the people continue the goal I had thought of as well as a few xda members but it was the fact people kept coming to me and the xda people for help that kept me up 3 days in a row LOL

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[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Politics can't be won. Money talks but taxes are the law. So what can ya do?...