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[General Questions and Answers] goygacon:
Humm....over 600 members in it's infancy...we have gingerbread root, recovery, themes, bootamimations, and many members wondering why xda has refused to make a Kyocera Echo section. It's not like there isn't any interest in the phone, it sold well, and even today your lucky to find one under 150$ on ebay.

Thanks to the developers who gave the echo the chance it hasn't gotten on here in xda.

Not hating, just saying...why? why isn't there a dedicated section for us Echo owners after all this time? Why ignore us after repeated request? I don't get it. It's a Great phone. My 1900+ benchmark matches or beats many phones listed on xda.

Dual-screens make for too big a challenge? A dedicated few don't think so.

I gave up my Evo 4g for this phone....Twice. There's just something about this phone I really like, eh?...

Personally I'd like to see what the big shots on xda could do with this phone. That's all we were hoping really...more Rom development.
[General Questions and Answers] KyoceraEchoHax:
I don't know why people aren't big into this phone either. Probably cause it wasn't a HUGE hit like all the others. Its gotta be all the "bad reviews" on the web. We tried emailing xda admins, talking to other devs, and just trying to get it noticed. I'm thinking some real reviews. You know? If anyone notices all the reviews on the web EVERYONE is still unrooted, on stock 2.2, and barely knows what the phone was MEANT to be used for, MULTITASKING!!!!!!! But now that here I am ranting about it, my brain just came up with this hopefully awesome, cool idea. We should make a real review. I'm not saying stock 2.3.4. Take my phone for example. Deodexed, themed, rooted, cmw based recovery, mods, Apps ported, super fast, scores on benchmark over 2000+, speed tests, and anything else. Its time. Time for some development on this nexgeneration dual-screen phone. It can and will be done! That is all. :D
[General Questions and Answers] Franzferdinan51:
VI agree this phone isn't done yet its super close to stock 2.3.4 which would make for decent ports we need up to date reviews and more publicity it worked with the lg thrill and optimus 3D hell go to other forums requesting PM developers who work with the N1 dInc and htc evo 4g they could all help us and all have cyanogenmod lets get this ball rolling what do u say guys?

Ps I've posted on a couple sites a way to root 2.3.4 super easy if that's your issue then you will be rooted soon
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
Build Kyocera Echo Stock ROM from source?

I don't know if anyone cares about this phone anymore, but I would like to build the stock ROM from source code and see where I can go from there.

I have AOSP android-2.3.4_r1 built (generic-eng) and running in emulator, and M9300_Gingerbread_kernel_code_2006.zip and M9300_Gingerbread_other_code.zip and Echo SDKs (v1.3 and v2.0) downloaded.

Where do I go from here? Anybody gotten any further?

Thank you, anyone who still likes this phone.
[General Questions and Answers] ninjaofbacon:
Have you made any progress? Do you still have any files related to the echo?
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
Ha, I'm sorry, no. No progress.

I do have Echo-related files, though, like whatever was downloadable from Kyocera while it was still on their website, probably.

Is that what you are looking for? Want me to try and find/post those files?
[General Questions and Answers] ninjaofbacon:
Yeah, if you could find and post those that'd be amazing. So far everything else has been a dead end
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1b_TV1DCbRx0j_twVTef-stg4AIJcgXh8

Let me know if that link doesn't work. Not a GDrive pro here.

If I tried, I could probably figure out/look up how to root it again, if you haven't done so yet.

I have other stuff, too, like a CWM recovery image, if you don't have that.

And maybe some themed ROMs.

All stuff other people created and I downloaded.

Exciting! What are you trying to do?

I've heard newer Android versions are more efficient. Though that might be more cpu-wise than RAM-wise. Dunno.

Wouldn't the split screen function in Android 7+ be really fun on the Echo?
[General Questions and Answers] ninjaofbacon:
The link looks like it works, thanks so much!

The split screen functionality in newer Android versions was originally what made me want to look into this phone, I think that could be a really interesting combination with nethunter, if I can get that running, especially with the really small and pocketable form factor.

I don't have the CWM image, that'd be really helpful if you could upload that too. Rooting instructions would honestly be helpful too, it's kind of a pain to find instructions for 2.2.1.

Thanks a ton
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
Sorry, I still plan to do this but I think the drivers don't work on Windows 10. I'm planning on trying to see if I can put the recovery on my bricked Echo after making a Windows 7 VM and I'll the post the files that worked for me.

Unless you've figured it out already.
[General Questions and Answers] ninjaofbacon:
I haven't figured it out yet, I'm running into the same driver issue. I'm planning on setting up a second computer with Windows 7 to see if that fixes it, but I haven't quite gotten around to that yet.
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
I was having a lot of problems setting up a VirtualBox VM on Windows 10. Apparently, VT-x on Windows 10 is tricky.

Seems like they released VirtualBox 6.1 just recently? I just installed it and my VM loaded up just fine with this new VirtualBox.

So perhaps I'll look into this rooting business tomorrow night.
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
I have been able to get adb to see the phone.

I have not been able to get fastboot to see the phone.

Any luck?
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
I was not able to get fastboot to work on my Win10 machines, or any Win7 VMs running on them.

I broke out an old Win7 laptop.

Was not able to get it to work there either.

Moved my Win7 VM onto the Win7 host, and was able to get it to work.

But only because the Win7 VM I had found had a "Fastboot works" snapshot saved.

And indeed it did work after a bit of updating, but I haven't been able to reproduce the success elsewhere.

I used fastboot to flash a recovery image to the recovery partition. (I've posted recovery files to the same GDrive link)

I booted into that recovery.

I restored a nandroid backup I had.

And yay, my previously bricked Echo lives.

I will check as to the rooting status of the phone in my next session.

Hopefully it's not rooted, and I can then see if I can find and apply the process of rooting to it successfully.
[General Questions and Answers] alexenferman:
If you want guys, I might build a ROM for this device something more functional such as Honeycomb or ICS. It would be cool! I bought my Echo from a thrift store for 5$ without the battery. It might be possible to build a ROM but performance is a concern. I don't use this phone, it's only for my collection...
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
Yes sir, Mr. alexenferman, I would definitely be interested in that! Certainly you are correct to worry about performance, but I've heard that newer versions of Android have been getting more efficient rather than more bloated.

But you actually seem like you know much better what you are talking about. I would be interested in seeing the process in which you might go about project. Do you mention ICS and Honeycomb because you know somehow that those will likely be possible while anything newer would be impossible?

Thanks for any progress with this interesting phone.
[General Questions and Answers] alexenferman:
A lot is possible. This does not mean that it can only run ICS or Honeycomb. It can run more than that but I think performance will decide on what is possible. That is not my main concern. My main concern is if the 2 displays work out of the box. Thankfully Kyocera provides the kernel sources. I will start with Kitkat but I am almost sure we will not get a usable Lolipop ROM (android 5.0). I am not starting now but I still have a month and the whole summer so it's plenty of time : ) This will take a while though so be patient. One thing I want to get some information on the device. Can you install the cpu-z app and make a picture with the [SOC] [Device] and [System] tabs? This will help me.

EDIT: This phone has one core. I have an android TV box that has a single core CPU and has android ICS 4.0.4 . And actually there are custom roms with jellybean for that device. Based on that, I think the kyocera ECHO can get JellyBean maybe with bugs. But the storage too is a concern now that think about that. I should add something like a modification that installs all of the apps on an external storage by default...

--Nevermind about the storage there are phones with 512MB of storage and they have android KitKat : O and they also have single core cpus!

Some Images of my phone:
[General Questions and Answers] alexenferman:
Quick update:

This is what will be required to fully build a newer rom for this device:

--A fresh TWRP recovery supporting installations of newer versions of android

--The Custom rom itself

I will start compiling ICSKitKat first so I will be sure it works. Later I might make KitKat or Jelly Bean.

I do also need the proprietary files to make the dual display work and on screen buttons and more (Hopefully as the original rom). So if someone has a system dump, it will be easier for me :)

Extras:

--If I have time, I might make a custom boot screen with the Cyanogen logo on the left and the Cyanogen avatar animation on the right

--If it works, I will add the tablet mode app like on the stock ROM

Starting with ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) might seem stupid, but I do not have a lot of knowledge on how to modify the kernel and stuff like that. But ICS is much much more usable than gingerbread especially in 2020. A lot of apps are still supported on Kit Kat plus the Google Play Store still receives updates. You can use it as a small hacking machine or game console emulator to play DS games and stuff like that... If ICS works, I will move to Kit Kat. If you have any question ask me...

And please, can someone do me a favour?

It would be helpful if someone could download the CPU-z app and take a picture of the SOC, DEVICE and SYSTEM section? that would be helpful. My echo does not have a battery and it has not arrived yet so it would be helpful if someone could take screenshots or pictures. In the previous pictures, I have made my own DIY battery but it's unstable and I don't want to damage it.

Have a nice day!
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
Sorry to leave you feeling like you are talking to yourself, but I do plan to get the Echo back out ( hopefully I left it in a running state. :P ) and get that CPU-z info for you.
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
Hope this helps.
[General Questions and Answers] alexenferman:
Thank you very much for providing the information I needed! BTW nice theme!
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
Hey all. I cannot see my Kyocera Echo in Fastboot mode from Windows 10.

I happened to have a Windows 7-64-bit machine with a Windows 7-32-bit VM on it which is able to access the phone's Fastboot mode.

If I move that VM to my Windows 10 machine I cannot access Fastboot mode from it.

In short, I'm wondering is anyone is able to access the Echo's Fastboot from Windows 10?

I'm really struggling with that.
[General Questions and Answers] DulacLancelot:
Thanks, I probably have a few themes downloaded, none of which I played any part in creating, if you want any.

Anything else I can do to try and help your progress?
[General Questions and Answers] alexenferman:
I am so sorry for leaving you guys alone, but the battery still did not come :/, I don't know if I can still compile a ROM or recovery without testing them beforehand. I could make at least a recovery but I don't know if there is a recovery partition and I don't know what size it is. There is only one seller with those batteries, so if it does not come, I will have to make my own DIY battery (basically a battery from another phone connected to this one), although, it won't turn on the phone if I plug a charger. I don't know if the micro USB plug is broken or the phone won't turn on without any battery charge left. So if anyone can try to plug the 5V charger without the battery in the phone, and see if it works, that would be helpful.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] charliehustl415:
I can't find it on the market nor do I know what's it called? Any help will be appreciated!
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] cjward23:
Did it look something like this

I did this using minimalistic text. The "OMG ITS" & "OUTSIDE" are done using static text and the "SUNNY" part is just current weather conditions.

If you have never used minimalistic text its an awesome app that give you loads of customisation options.

Sorry for the poor pic quality.

UNLOCK OUR BOOTLOADERS
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] charliehustl415:
That's exactly it!
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] fermunky:
I haven't liked any of the weather widgets until now. I love this, thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] charliehustl415:
it's pretty awesome but it is not very user friendly, it took me forever to figure out how to do everything.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] cjward23:
I agree, but once you get the hang of it the possibilities are endless.
[Venue Pro General] jessej:
I would just like to give everyone a quick update on where I am in getting a Venue Pro solution.

To start, I have been in communication with numerous Dell and Microsoft Employees. I received a phone call from the Dell global sales manager today and should be receiving a phone call from the chief engineer and product manager tomorrow. I have also requested contact information for many public figures on the Windows Phone team although I have not yet received a reply for that specific request. I have spoken with a couple of individuals on the Mobile Communications team who were responsible for getting me contact information for some of the Dell higher ups.

I am atttempting to get either a working solution started or other alternatives/compensations put in place FOR ALL USERS requesting it. I have requested that both parties become involved in providing alternatives and solutions and so far all of the people I have spoken with have been happy to press the issue at my request. I do not know what will happen with this but so far the results are better than expected. I will update with additional information as it is available.

Also please note that the Dell Mobility support systems are back up as of today.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
Good to see some forward movement on this. Still fingers crossed on the reality of the promises.

I did work my way on securing a 32GB TMO DVP. I will test it out throughly and give my feed to Dell and this forum as well.
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
how in the hell did you manage that
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Well mine is now bricked, wont boot past the dell logo, restore of last backup fails. This was after a hard reset then connecting to my laptop to sync data, phone turned off and kaput! Well done dell, you've got $500 off me and I've got a brick!
[Venue Pro General] jessej:
Efjay,

Ask for Josh with Dell Mobility he is the head manager for that support division. If nothing else I imagine he will be willing to work with you until we can hopefully get something else figured out. If you get sent to the center in India just hang up and call again. They are on a switch and calls just get auto routed to the available lines.

Notebook, let us know how the 32 gig phone works out compared to the others.
[Venue Pro General] gmontem:
Thanks for being proactive in this matter, jessej. I'm on my 1st replacement (replaced it because the hardware keys stopped working) and the phone locks up almost every day. It seems all it takes is some sort of web browsing or a feed-reading app to make the phone become highly unresponsive. This is with the Wi-Fi off.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Thanks but pointless since I've replaced the card. Dont want to deal with any BS from them, i'm pissed off enough as it is.
[Venue Pro General] missionsparta:
Do me a favor.... When they use the term, "This is the first we have heard of it" (and they will use it), punch them straight in the face and tell them that is from me.
[Venue Pro General] kr33mo:
Ha! They used that term on me just yesterday not knowing that I had my phone replaced once before for similar issues. I hope the OP get some headway with this as it makes it real difficult to enjoy WP7.

I just have this feeling that Dell just wants this to quietly go away and the elusive "dell fix" will not be forthcoming.

BTW - Does anyone know if the Venue has similar issues using Android?
[Venue Pro General] kr33mo:
Forgot to mention that ever since I updated my phone with the security certificate patch my phone has been crashing 3/4 times a day with WiFi off.

Does anyone know if the AT&T phones have any of these issues with whatever firmware they are using?

One other thing I have noticed is that my phone does not show accurate storage info.

Total Storage: 15.03 GB

Available Storage: 9.37 GB (Zune shows that I only have about 6 GB which is correct)
[Venue Pro General] webbula:
I've had a 32g ATT DVP for a week today, and the phone has been flawless.

The OS version is .7355

Firmware revision is 2250.1800.7355.209

Hardware revision is 112.576.2.0
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
Can you store data/music in it and fill it up to 25GB+ ?. Then test it with wifi.
[Venue Pro General] webbula:
I'll see what I can do. I have about 10gb on it right now.
[Venue Pro General] missionsparta:
Same here, but it is still data related. I can do anything that isn't data heavy and it is fine. But as soon as I browse the web, or use and app that needs to download news articles, etc -- even with wifi off -- it crashes now.
[Venue Pro General] kr33mo:
Yep! That is exactly what I told the Dell rep the other day. 90-95% of our apps are data related. The freezing seems to be random as well...not sure which data app is going to cause the problem.
[Venue Pro General] alodar1:
Dells lost sale

Its no secret that my VP does not have the problems that many of you have. For that I am glad and feel lucky.

I've been in the market for a tablet and very seriously considered the Streak. However, after seeing the response from Dell on the phone and on the Streaks, I took my money elsewhere.

I purchased a Xoom from Motorola. Those dollars were firmly in Dells pocket in February. I know my small boycott means nothing to them. But it is the only way for me to say thank you to Dell for all their help with the VP.
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
on a fresh dvp, updated firmware no apps installed wifi FROZE

...

it's not app related
[Venue Pro General] jessej:
Update

I was contacted by a couple of people from Dell today, one was another follow up from the global sales manager and the other was from one of the chief engineers. I requested that Dell begin actively informing the community about progress and the sales manager seemed very receptive to that idea mentioning blogs and other forms of communication as possibilities.

On the engineering side of things I was informed that Dell and Microsoft are currently working in conjunction with each other to address issues. I was also told that in addition to the .206 firmware that there have been a couple of additional issues identified. I got the impression that these were related to freezing but was not directly told so. Unfortunately, I was not given a timeframe on releasing updates and I will continue to push that with my communications. I was given a more direct communication line which will hopefully help in getting more information.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
@ Jessej, thanks for the update.

Update from my end - Dell shipped me a 32GB TMO DVP as replacement yday and i got it today. Loaded the usual stuff i did on my other 2 16GB replacements with wifi on. (All in the same manner i did in the 16GB models). So far no crashes. In the 16GB, once the space filled up to have only less than 7-8GB remaining, it crashed. In the 32GB, no crashes so far.

I will keep filling it to 25GB+ and see what happens.
[Venue Pro General] missionsparta:
no one said it was app related. We said it is data usage related. If the app is using data, there is a very high chance the phone will crash. The app is not the common factor - the data usage is.
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
no disagreement there
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
Ok..Here is an update on the 32GB model. I got the 32GB DVP as a replacement for my 16GB on Friday. So far, i have been keeping it on Wifi, downloading games as usual and doing the regular stuffs. Up, until this point, it hasn't frozen or crashed (Knock on Wood).

It could still crash and exhibit the issue behavior once i fill it up close to 25+GB. So far i haven't done that.

So the point proven here is, the 32GB models (either directly from Dell or swapping by us) is for the most part crash and freeze free. The simple reason to that could be not enough data to fill 25+GB. At least for me it will take more than a year to even fill it with 25+GB data based on my current usage. By that time, i would have moved on to a different phone.

If Dell can come out and replace all of the affected users with the 32GB model, it will alleviate the pains we are having with this phone.

@Jessej, can you tell your Dell channel about this option of replacing our DVP's with 32GB ones. It will cost Dell less than sending multiple 16GB replacements.

I will keep it on Wifi all the time and will report back any issues.
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
good to know I still am waiting from something from amy with that regard...no results there
[Venue Pro General] ducttape36:
Could you tell us the firmware number your device is running? I have an 8gb DVP and it had the wifi freezing issues. i swapped out to a 32gb card and i'm still having the same issues. both cards are rated class 4 (supposedly class 2 cards work better in the DVP, but i didn't have any on hand). but someone else said that they had firmware version 2250.1800.7355.209. my device is running 2250.1800.7355.206, so maybe the 209 version fixes the problem? what are you running on?
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
It came with 206. 206 is the latest for TMO. 209 for ATT and 210 for Outside US.
[Venue Pro General] missionsparta:
I told them I wanted to do the same and they told me to get bent that they haven't done that for anyone and aren't going to. Obviously it is just another lie from them, because here you are with your 32. But they have sent me a 16 that does appear to be working - first phone in 6. I am at a delema now though. I had swapped the previous 2 with 32gb cards trying to get them to work and am now use to being able to carry all my music and such (plugging it in to the car radio and having it all on the go). Do I go ahead and switch this working one out to the 32 or just hold tight. This has been just a complete dibacle. I am almost leaning towards swapping it out. I figure they sent me 5 phones they destroyed on their own, I won't feel bad about sending them one I destroy, if this goes south. Any had a working phone and swap it out for a bigger card? Thanks for your time...
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
If you are going to swap on your own, then do it only if the current 16GB that u have supposedly working freaks out or you really need more than 16GB space. Becos, either way (swap or no swap), you can still get another replacement if it breaks. I will let the swappers chime in as they have better first hand info.