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[HTC Desire S] khamoshpathak:
Thank you for writing this.. helped me a lot.. especially the gpsFix app.. in endomondo the gps used to be work after i walked like a km. now its just instant.. and i am really looking forward to buying tasker too..
[HTC Desire S] amonrei:
Yeah GPS Fix rocks. And Titanium Backup too if you're starting to flash ROMS. :D
[HTC Desire S] slayer_x911:
Thanks a lot
[HTC Desire S] kablitz:
thanks...:)
[HTC Desire S] BiggMacc:
A great guide for me. Thanx very Dutch for that.
[HTC Desire S] igoivo:
Please, add instruction how to get back to S-ON after using Alpharevx.
[HTC Desire S] Elcs:
Love the first PDF. I'm coming from an HD1 and HD2 for my first Android Device and some of what you list in there has revolutionised my phone usage.

Useful Apps and Battery Saving Tips (WiFi over Phone Network Internet mainly) have been excellent.

Thank you for your sterling efforts!

Now to look into Overclocking, S-OFF, Custom ROMs and most importantly, Widgets!
[HTC Desire S] :
Thank you all for your feedback! It keeps me going with this.

I apologise for the lack of promised updates of late. I am working on them, but my work load has gone nuts lately (lots of people on holiday and muggins here is covering for them) so I'm struggling for time. Also the next update is a biggy, and is taking longer than anticipated. It will include a widget guide, and.....(drum roll)......an advanced section for s-off methods, rooting, and custom roms etc! It will come complete with a jargon buster, and step-by-step help on the basics of what to do when you unshackle your android.

In a week or so (hopefully) my work load will have returned to normal so I can get stuck in with it.

In the mean time if you have any questions or need any help, ask me and I'll do my best to get you answers.
[HTC Desire S] Elcs:
You're welcome! and your next update sounds tantalising :)

From your recommendations, I'm using TuneIn (which miraculously knows all three radio stations I listen to) but the Widget for it is terrible. The Widget appears to be a 4x1 widget which takes up 4x2 space with a lot of padding and only shows one radio station in the list, when ideally I'd like two.

Does this sound fixable with Widgetsoid or any easy method?
[HTC Desire S] :
I had not noticed this. What a truly stupid widget! I use tasker to automatically open tunein when it sees my bluetooth speaker pod so I'm not needing the widget. I know launcher pro can resize widgets, but I like sense plus I don't think it'd squash down very well. I'll email the dev to see if there are plans to sort this out.

All I can offer in the mean time is either settle for a short-cut to the app, or set up tasker to open a list of media apps when you plug your headphones in. I have mine set to offer tune in, power amp, youtube, or audio manager when I plug my headphones in.
[HTC Desire S] Elcs:
Thank you. I looked at under widget again and it certainly looks like a 4x1 widget which occupies 4x2 space, featuring a large blank space either side of the tunein bar. If I was experienced enough, if screenshot it for you. It really is a weird widget.
[HTC Desire S] alteso:
which programm is the best for HD videos with subtitles (for the desire s)?
[HTC Desire S] :
I use Rockplayer for that.
[HTC Desire S] Alan G31:
WNP did you ever do anygood ref the Bluetooth issue? Alan
[HTC Desire S] friscoltu959:
thanks a lot
[HTC Desire S] :
Hi Alan. I'll admit I'm stumped. I can get bluetooth to turn on and off using Tasker on time based profiles, just not location ones. I don't get it. Why should it be any different? Makes no sense.

Testing is currently made harder as I am unable to use the very useful Cell Near home profile thanks to the mess Orange have made of their network. I live on an estate with a MASSIVE cell tower at the top. Even the fillings in my teeth can receive text messages. But Orange fluctuate the signal, switch between 3G and 2G, change transmitters etc so regularly, that my phone just thinks I'm leaving home every 5 minutes! Wifi on off on off on off.....had to turn 'Home Mode' off. :mad:

In the interim I would recommend setting up a Tasker widget, to toggle a 'Car Mode' on and off. It's not as neat and automated as we'd like, but I'm not giving up on this.

Start a new Task with all the things you want Car Mode to include. I.e. Set Bluetooth to toggle, screen brightness up, media volume up, etc and save it.

Then long-press on a blank part of a home screen and select add widget. Select the Tasker widget, and point it to the Car Mode task. Choose an Icon from the list (by pressing the button that looks like a multi-coloured chess board) and set it. This will now toggle car mode on and off with each press, and you should still be able to use cell near to turn wifi on when you get home. See if adding 'Bluetooth Off' to your 'Home Mode' works then.
[HTC Desire S] Tiesher:
Hi Guys.

Ehm, maybe i'm a little too much of a noob. But it seems to me the dropbox link for the pdf guide ist not working (anymore). Since I didn't find any other link in this thread - which could be my fault entirely - I thought I'd just ask.

Thx in advance.

@wnp_79: Keep up the splendid work!
[HTC Desire S] :
Thanks for the heads-up! Fixed the link in the first post. Let me know if you still have problems.
[HTC Desire S] Tiesher:
Thanks wnp_79! Works like a charm now.

Great guide.

Cheers :)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Hello (again)

I also now use tasker to automate many things and in an attempt to reduce battery consumption after reading your guide.

Now I use a home at night profile that kicks in after midnight until six am

Fwd voice calls to home land line and Switches phone to air plane mode

Using a battery monitor widget called "currentwidget" I'm noticing a usage of greater than 25 Ma in this state even when the phone is asleep.

Whereas with the phone and wi fi on but phone idling asleep I can get 10-12Ma

This surely isn't correct? I've tried with multiple radio versions and seen no difference

What battery monitor would you recommend?
[HTC Desire S] Alan G31:
Thanks for the update WNP,

Do you have any news on a possible update to 2.3.3 (I assume 2.3.4) on the Desire S , I was told it would incorporate adjustable font size but being new to HTC and smart phones all I seem to find is the Desire gingerbread update, are updates expected quarterly or as and when and sometimes not at all? Alan
[HTC Desire S] :
Hi Alan

The only real thing 2.3.4 brings over 2.3.3 (aside from a few minor bug fixes) is the ability to make video calls using Google Talk. I do not know when HTC plan to bring this official update to the Desire S, but I do know if you wanted this feature you can use an app called Fring to make video calls. My custom ROM has the version of Google Talk that allows video calling, but I think Fring works better.

I have heard rumour that an OTA update is rolling out from HTC, but I think it is for the build of the HTC ROM, not an Android update. It will bring the build number to 1.47.61.1 and change your HBOOT to 0.98.0002. I have a rooted and s-off phone so will not want to apply this update. I just checked though and it is available for download OTA right now. I cannot however find any information on what it brings, even from HTC’s own (very limited) website.

Perhaps best waiting for people to figure out what it does before updating. It's not unheard of that these updates fix something very minor, and break something incredibly important! Also if you are planning on s-off and rooting your phone I’d certainly avoid updating for now.
[HTC Desire S] :
Hmmm. 25mA does sound very high. I am currently trying to track down what is keeping my phone awake sometimes on it's overnight "sleep". It doesn't happen every night. Currentwidget is the best and only one I know of to log these things but unfortunately it can't point the finger at what's doing it. The old Desire used to be able to log what had used partial wake lock. I miss that so bad. It was so easy to track down current drain.

It might be down to something that doesn't appreciate airplane mode is active, and is keeping the phone awake trying to do something. Have you tried resetting your usage statistics (phone off, battery pull, power back up) right before midnight, and see what's top of the list the next morning? Mine kept saying HTC Sense so I'm running Launcher Pro (a favourite of mine from my old Desire days) to see if this is indeed the culprit. I must say in the 3 days since I've stopped using Sense it has not stayed awake overnight yet. This kinda rules out an app.

Thankfully the nice Sense 3.0 bits (lock screen, quick settings etc) still remain when using Launcher Pro. You just loose the HTC Widgets which are easily replaceable. Give it a go and see if that drops your overnight current drain. If not we are back to looking at an app. :confused:

Edit: Good news! Check this out! Found a thread where you can download the proper battery history tracker (including partial wake usage) apk that I miss from the old Desire. It works! Get it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13328125

I'll have my wake lock culprit in no time now! :)
[HTC Desire S] :
Thanks man, very handy!
[HTC Desire S] hyppy:
Great guide! Thank you.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Cheers for your response, I've also found out (well someone told me) about a slightly better battery stats application, that shows the same information but better detail and appears to have been in development far longer, so is slightly better polished

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809

Curious that tasker and google bleeding maps are high wake lock offenders, this application also let you easily extract the data for posting back
[HTC Desire S] :
Nice find. I'll give it a go.

I found that if I used Tasker with a profile that used a map location context, then a lot of partial wake on Tasker and Google maps was a result. (In Tasker settings you can also adjust how often it runs location checks when the screen is off.) Also being signed into Google Latitude will keep waking Google Maps up periodically to update your location.

Unfortunately I can no longer use the much-more-efficient 'Cell Near' context, as Orange have made a colossal mess of their 3G network during this T-Mobile merger. Have you noticed this from the T-Mobile side? I'm at the point where I'm considering tossing my Orange SIM and picking up a cheap Vodafone SIM only contract. (I'd rather pay £25/month for something that does work over £8.50/month for something that doesn't.) Since February cell tower signals fluctuate so wildly between 2G/GPRS/3G/EDGE/HSDPA so frequently that Tasker has no idea where I am most of the time. Back to manually switching radios. :mad:

There is a very nice Tasker Profile on the wiki that is supposed to be a Juice-Defender replacement, but it's meant for CDMA phones and doesn't quite work on an HTC phone with no true data on/off feature. I'm trying to fettle it to work for a GSM Desire S. If I'm successful I'll post it here. Just need to find the time!
[HTC Desire S] zas666:
Nice guide :) Thanks.
[HTC Desire S] choiia:
Thank you, very nice guide and some good app picks.
[HTC Desire S] labstar:
thx

very useful
[HTC Desire S] chivas112:
Very nice guide, thank you.

I suggest you to add the app "Auto Airplane Mode" to your list ;) It automatically enables the airplane-mode in a certain period of time.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
This application removes the forces usahe of htc enforced route 66 navigation, works from within contacts application and permits google maps instead

This is great would recommend it as must to all, so suggest that you include it within your guide
[HTC Desire S] :
Another nice find Ben! Perfect for people who do not have root. It’ll be added to the next update. (Still struggling for time though lately.) I wonder how much longer HTC will bother with Locations for too. I know of no one that likes it. I have a sneaking suspicion that Google are just waiting for Nokia’s Windows Mobile handsets to debut, before making Google Maps work completely off-line anyway! Plus I’m still bitter about being stung for £22 for a HTC Locations licence that didn’t work! I now use Co-Pilot for off-line navigation, and I can highly recommend it (when it’s on sale at half price!). :)

For those with root, you can also stop the infernal nuisance that is HTC Locations from sticking it’s damn-fool nose into your map business, by freezing it with Titanium Backup. Addresses in contacts also then load up with Google Maps.

I am also re-considering doing the rooting & s-off part. It has already been covered in several other threads here, and done very well too. I don’t think I’d be doing anything other than going over old ground, and I’d like to keep this guide at newcomer level too. If I were to do it, it would be in a separate guide I think.

For now I’ll just focus on the apps/widgets/tips side of things. It was only ever meant to get people started.

Edit 10/8/11 : Recent Tasker update on the marketplace has solved the problems mentioned below! It wasn't me!

OK Tasker fans, I need some help! Been trying to perfect my Periodic Data Check profile, but I’m having problems getting Tasker to respond to screen-state variables correctly, and I need to rule out it being a ROM issue. What this profile should do is;

Contexts;

Between 08:00 and 23:59, every 15 minutes

+When NOT on AC power

+When battery above 15%

Tasks;

Turn 3G, WiFi and Auto-sync on

Wait 10 Seconds

Force a full sync (using Synker plugin)

Wait 40 seconds

Auto-sync off

Turn 3G, WiFi off ONLY IF MY SCREEN IS ALSO OFF.

It’s that last part that is doing my head in. Obviously you do not want the profile switching 3G/Wifi off if you are in the middle of a youtube video or Google Navigation after a sync has completed. The ‘NOT on AC Power’ context part helps (for Navigation anyway), but regardless of where I put the %SCREEN ~ OFF variable, it either keeps WiFi on all the time, or shuts it off even when my screen is on. I’ve asked the developers for help, but they’ve basically told me to RTFM! Lol. I have read the manual, but I’m sure one of the 5 or so ways I’ve tried should still work. If I add a Screen = Off to the contexts, it doesn’t sync at all! HTC Sense? CoreDroid? Tasker? Me? Where is it going wrong? :confused:

Attached is the zipped Profile XML file. Your mission, should you choose to accept, is to extract the XML file and import this into Tasker and see if it behaves. It should run the sequence every 15 minutes, and then turn everything back off, unless your screen is on. Try it with screen off and screen on. Oh and you’ll need to install Synker from the marketplace first. Have a play.

I’m getting at least 36 hours up-time with this profile so I’d like to crack it.
[HTC Desire S] blu3zy:
Great guide!

I love tasker :)

How about a little paragraph about how to calibrate battery for people who bought a mugen 1800 one?
[HTC Desire S] freedompie:
I would like to say thank you for such a great guide. Also tasker will now disable wifi when the profile context are not met.
[HTC Desire S] :
Thank you!

Unfortunately I do not think the ROM will recognise anything more than 1450mA anyway. Your mugen battery will have more, but you can't tell the Desire S that.

Edit 02/09/11: Ignore above comment. An 1800mA Mugen battery capacity will be acknowledged by the phone.
[HTC Desire S] :
Thank you also.

Yes the recent Tasker updates seem to have solved the Screen-state variable problems. Glad it wasn't me!

For those interested, attached is my (now working) Data Check profile with some slight improvements.
[HTC Desire S] Elcs:
When I first booted my phone, I was prompted to say if I wanted to move my contacts from my old phone to my Desire S and it worked flawlessly.

I've just s-off'ed, rooted and flashed a custom ROM today and didn't see that option appear. Is it possible to find and run that part of the first boot startup so that I can transfer over my contacts?
[HTC Desire S] :
Yes. If its a sense rom, there should be an app in your drawer called 'setup'. Run this. Do you not use google contacts? These are then stored in the cloud, and come back down the first time you sync your account.
[HTC Desire S] Elcs:
Alright, will find it.

No, but I might start. I'm just concerned that my online friends will get mixed in with my phonebook contacts (like what happened first time I had my Desire S and had 1500 FB friends in with my phonebook :p)

Edit:

Setup did not work. It didn't give me the option to import my contacts from another phone. Trying to find an easy/free way to export my contacts from my HD2 (WinMo) to my Desire S.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
To prevent this from happening, when you get the options to sync contacts only ever sync where you have an existing contact.

I'd also recommend moving your main contacts from PhoneBook to Google Contacts (in cloud) and not having anything stored only locally on your phone.
[HTC Desire S] Elcs:
Once I figure out how to get one to the other, I'll possibly ask you how this is done :)
[HTC Desire S] kartikk:
@wnp_79 hi :)

can you add a warning somewhere on the top of the guide telling users not to pull out the battery when the device is on or if it hangs during installing apps from the market ?,you can press all the hard keys for that (power+vol down+vol up)

many new users seem to pull their battery & damage the mmc chip
[HTC Desire S] Retsil Evad:
Thanks for this. I will be making use of it once my new Desire S arrives.
[HTC Desire S] bail.de:
some nice tips in there, thanks!
[HTC Desire S] adazamim:
Thanks a million:)

Just got myself a Desire S and I am resing the pdf file you posted :)

Thank you.

One more thing, I bought my Desire S from Egypt, and I didn't find the full user manual.

I tried to find it on HTC's web site and couldn't find it either.

Any suggested places where I can download it?

Thank you very much :)
[HTC Desire S] :
You can download my copy from here...

http://db.tt/ayLSswR
[HTC Desire S] feitianzu:
I think this is useful
[HTC Desire S] h_jaguar:
thanks for share
[HTC Desire S] locotux:
It's a great guide, but I can't agree with section 3.4: "Don’t leave the phone on full charge for excessive amounts of time. Lithium Polymer battery performance will suffer if the battery is kept too hot for too long". Modern Li-Ion batteries has internal charge controller which prevents them of overcharging and overheating. The controller stops charging when capacity reaches 100%. You can safely leave your device on charger for any amount of time. Prooven by many (smart)phones I had.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Either way, leaving the phone on charge for an excessive amount of time isn't sensible as it uses unnecessary electricity and therefore costs/wastes money and has a negative environmental impact. :mad::confused:
[HTC Desire S] qqpony:
Thanks for the guide !
[HTC Desire S] TvD_27:
I'd like to download the guide, but it seems the download link has expired or become inactive. Could you perhaps fix it? Thanks in advance.
[HTC Desire S] :
Link updated! Enjoy!
[HTC Desire S] aajk:
Thank you very much :)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Hello, old comment but only just saw it, don't think that this completely correct, as I've also a Mugen 1800 mA battery and all the Battery Usage Monitors etc know that it has increased capacity....although obviously battery re-calibration is necessary if I swap batteries.
[HTC Desire S] det66:
Where did you get your battery from Ben ?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I can't remember off hand, I'll have to dig up the email.....but I'm sure that three is a thread in the Accessories forum about it.

Will post back later.

EDIT: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/

Although in all honesty I actually use the normal STOCK one and just carry the extra battery as a spare....for weekends away or days when I'm constantly on the phone.
[HTC Desire S] :
Ah fair enough. I stand corrected! I do not have one myself, but picked up some comments from accessories section about it. I think in future I'll stick to first-hand experience! :D
[HTC Desire S] NiruBhai:
Good Informative post.. Thanks :-)
[HTC Desire S] B3rtbot:
After reading this, it definitely helped me set up my Tasker. Now I have about a gazillion hours worth of battery life :cool:
[HTC Desire S] de.baron:
Thnx for the User guide... and tasker is great indeed!!!

You write:

"Whilst in the ‘Advanced’ section, turn off ‘Best WiFi performance’. I’m not sure how it

boosts WiFi performance when on (possibly a higher gain or uses wireless N

protocol?) but I personally have not noticed any improvement with it on, so I have

mine turned off. Leaving it on uses lots of power."

I found out when the phone shuts off - in hybernation mode - this unticked mode wifi shuts off also. Ticked it stays on. I wonder what uses more battery power. starting it up all the time or leaving it on?
[HTC Desire S] :
You're welcome!

Regarding your wifi on/off with the phone sleeping, I belive this is possibly down to your 'WiFi Sleep Policy' setting rather than the 'Best Performance' option.

Go to your Wifi settings, hit 'Menu' then 'Advanced'. Hit the 'WiFi sleep policy' drop-down. If this is set to 'After 15 Mins' then your WiFi will shut off if your phone has been asleep for 15 minutes. It could be that setting turning your WiFi off.

From experience, I have found that having this set to 'Never' is actually better on battery life. Keeping the WiFi permanently connected seems to use less power than toggling, scanning and reconnecting to your AP each time you wake the phone up. Tasker shuts my WiFi off when I leave home or the office.

:)
[HTC Desire S] lhn1989:
it's very usefull!

many thx
[HTC Desire S] pdf5:
thaks alot

so helpfull
[HTC Desire S] Jahral:
Thank you very much:)

Has been very useful info.

[Device]: HTC Desire S (S-OFF with AlpharevX)

[ROM]: RCMix3D VoidU S v1.1 (Ported by proxuser)

[Kernel]: Stock 2.6.35.10

[Radio]: 20.28d.30.0805U_3805.04.02.01_M

[Recovery]: Clockworkmod v5.0.2.0
[HTC Desire S] cript0n:
thanks ;) Good information.
[HTC Desire S] smartceleron:
This tutorial didn't help me...
[HTC Desire S] :
:D:D:D
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Please post comments in the spirit of XDA or just don't bother. I personally am not interested in your negative opinion's!
[HTC Desire S] prl60:
Hi

I'm a completely newbee and want's to download the guide but the link isn't working any more, could it be restored ??

Thx

Ps I'm Danish and this is my first post so i'm sorry for any language and typo errors
[HTC Desire S] :
Hi.

The link in the original post has been fixed!

Your English is very good.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'm always amazed, impressed and embarrassed with the non-English speaking people's ability with our language :o (especially those that feel the need to apologise), although I must admit that things must have got easier since the invention of Google translate! :)
[HTC Desire S] ibby_667:
I need Help plz?

Hello,

This is my first input here, I got an Desire S with S-off and custom rom and still and i need to unlock the SIM from orange to use it on 3 network

Any help?

Cheers,
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Welcome! :)

You should really initially SEARCH and READ the forum before asking, as this question has been asked and answered many time before..I've responded to your email with the answer.
[HTC Desire S] Desire_fanatic:
Thanks for great guide
[HTC Desire S] nidhinrabi:
thnx...eventhough it's just th basics
[HTC Desire S] prl60:
Thanks for guide ,i got my new Desire s up and running on sunday and i still have to try the guide about the battery, it seems that if everything is running Bluetooth and WiFi it certainly have short life :rolleyes:

And i'm still not using Google Translate :p
[HTC Desire S] vndnguyen:
hi wnp_79

thanks a lot for your guide. I've read in your guide the following section:

"At present you can’t deny certain permissions and allow others. If an App is to be installed, you have to either chose yes to all permissions, or no to all and hence cancel the installation."

In fact there is an app named LBE Privacy Guard that can controll the permission of each app.

Sorry if anyone has mentioned about that.