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[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WiredPirate:
Kongregate appbrain and pulse are all fine apps, but will all recomend new updates in your notification bar, you can change this in settings. In the op you said, ads for unwanted recomendations. I was, and still am unsure if you are refering to irelevant product advertising like a commercial, or if your being recommended flash games because you told Kongregate to notify you of new games (or a similar notification from a dif app). There is a malicious advertising plug in called "airpush" that devs could put in apps to advertise in your notification bar, it has caused a backlash against devs that use it. As far as freezing to test, yes you can, but be careful what you freeze and for this testing purpose maybe one at a time is the best way to tell what app is notifying you.

I will list the apps below that I know are not infected with airpush, all of these apps I use or have used before and they do not have airpush:

Adfree

Appbrain

Bubble

Bw animation package

Compass

Dropbox

Es file explorer

Facebook

Fancy widget

Fast web installer

Flash player

Gmail

Go contacts

Go sms

Gmaps

Gsearch

Launcherpro

Lp+ unlock

Lookout

Picasa

Pulse

Quickoffice pro

Realcalc

Shootme screen grabber

Skype

Street view

Swiftkey

Symphony of colors

Terminal emulator

Tibu

Tibu key

Trillian

Tunein radio

Vlingo

Voice search

Widgetlocker

Xda

Youtube

Hope that helps. Maybe others can add to the list of safe apps.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sagerox:
I had it happen when I used the android movie download app. It was useless and spammed thee hell out of me.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jochenthomas:
Thanks for your response.

To be more clear: it is not ONLY product related or update recommendations.

They spam me with commercials from different areas.

But maybe I'll have an eye on it to see what they offer, maybe this is an way to identify the app and make it public + ban.

It would be good to have a public black list...

And last but not least: I was searching, but Airpush (at least what I can see in the market) is not installed. So it's not this app...

Best regards and thanks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sfb14:
I also had been spammed by the app "Live wallpaper LED" bu DrHU. beware of this app
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrWall:
try scanning your phone with AirPush

it won't block whatever is causing it but it'll identify which app is the culprit and let you uninstall it.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeranon:
Addons Detector is like that airpush app on steroids... bit more functionality.

Once installed, run a scan. Then choose the bottom filtering option to see who's using airpush.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cryingmoose:
I had this exact same thing. A little star on the notifcation bar saying I won an Ipad2, and then redirected me to a spam website.

In my case it was actually caused by a Final Fantasy 13 guide app.

I reported the app, deleted it, and it looks like google pulled it from the marketplace.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WiredPirate:
Addons Detector flagged Zarley for push notification adds.. its never spammed my notif bar ever and it definately doesn't contain the Airpush "virus".
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikebabcock:
Airpush (which advertises here on xda) offers this type of ad. I can't tell you if its them or not, but check out airpush.com for info on their permanent opt-out feature. I was intrigued by their revenue claims until I saw their methods.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blunts:
I had the same issue and installed Addons Detector and it found 4 apps using different push notifications. I uninstalled all 4 apps and no pop-ups so far. Thanks :)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Je_t:
Hey,

I was spammed by Awesome Wallpaper app that way
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morepower71:
i noticed you use go launcher. I have noticed that some of the free themes have had airpush built in to them. you might try and use another theme and delete the ones you currently have. This worked for me.
[General Topics] BonesRed:
Hadn't heard about this at all. I'm not for it, I don't see why I can't just opt-in to a service like this, no special chip required at all. When I was in college, after the VA Tech shootings the University started a service to alert everybody in case of an emergency. Hell, my job has an automated system that tells us when there's an unexpected closing. But apparently the government needs a chip for that purpose. Absurd.
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
How much you wanna bet there's going to be a lot more in that chip than just something allowing you to receive warning messages.

How about full on tracking and voice recording?

Patriot Act.
[General Topics] dschneider81:
Call me naive, but I'm not as paranoid about this. Sure, the gubmint does all sorts of monitoring they shouldn't, but going so far as to install a special chip in every cell phone in the country? They can't hide that. It's out in the open, to be dissected and shown to the world for what it is. I can't imagine they'd do something so brash. They'd never live it down.
[General Topics] SuperDeform:
I seen sum videos on yutube dat most new cellphones r bein tapped to hear your voice conversations bcuz of terorist acts :(
[General Topics] Dirk:
I see the Tin-Foil hat brigade have come out in force..

How is this not a good thing?

The Police cannot be everywhere at once, but the public is! If a child goes missing and a member of the public sees them, how is that not WIN for the child?
[General Topics] LordManhattan:
If you haven't done something wrong, then you don't have to worry..

But wait, that's not the discussion is it? It's healthy to be a little bit skeptic, but paranoid? Not so much.
[General Topics] dandv:
The "nothing to hide" argument again

This is the common "nothing to hide" argument. It suffers from four problems:

* aggregation: if you bought a book on cancer, that won't raise any flags, but if you bought a wig as well, that suggests you're undergoing chemotherapy, something you might not want to be known

* exclusion - people are most of the time unaware of what information is being kept or tracked about them. When they accidentally find out to what extent they are being monitored, the reaction is one of shock.

* guilt by associaton - since you have no idea how your information is used and aggregated, what if some of the purchases you make or places you visit happen to match a pattern observed in actions of government enemies (not terrorists, but "hostile or critical journalists, campaigning lobbyists, businessmen who are likely to sponsor rival parties, people who oppose the party leader's favourite idea of the year")? Once you get on a watch list, even due to an error, it's extremely hard to get out of it. Read Hasan Elahi's story of how he was inadvertently detained by FBI agents in 2002, and since then, he publishes everything he does online, so that he can be monitored properly ("The government monitors your movements, but it gets things wrong. You can monitor yourself much more accurately").

* distortion - if you buy books on cellphone hacking, the government might think you want to thwart surveillance or avoid a roving wiretap; while you might simply be doing security research or writing a novel

More at http://tinyurl.com/debunk-nothing-to-hide .
[General Topics] panchopunk:
Why can't they just send a text message out to everyone like they do in a lot of universities? Sounds like a waste of money.
[General Topics] dandv:
Send text messages instead

Exactly. We have all the infrastructure we need for text message; they are fast, cheap, and don't require forcing manufacturers to add yet another chip into the phone.
[General Topics] matchosan:
Did someone say the sekrit word?

There is money to be made. If each chip costs $10 to install. Think of all the denirro they are going to make. Plus some sort of upkeep tax to pay the director head(read: ol'bud:D) with.
[General Topics] CardnalSyn:
what better way to keep track of ppl than a chip in a cell phone? Come on ppl...EVERYBODY has cell phones. Next its gonna be RFID tags under ur skin...

666...
[General Topics] drksilenc:
... wow this is the biggest bull ever... text are easier require less effort and are less invasive... talk about wasting taxpayer dollars
[General Topics] AndriodLover:
New World Order
[General Topics] galaxys:
The Extreme invasive Big Brother gov show continues...
[General Topics] abrigham:
Personally, I like the idea of getting alerts like this, and I think their execution does make some sense. Let me explain: In order for them to use the text message infrastructure to do a mass broadcast, they would first have to get the message to the service providers who would then have to transmit the message to their customers - adding in potential points of failure. Or, they would have to get the providers to hand over a list of all current cell phone #'s to send the alerts directly (which would cause even more uproar) and would cost manpower on both sides in order to keep that list up to date. With the new chip/firmware, it takes all of that out of the equation - no "middle man" needed and the government doesn't have to maintain a list of phone numbers. I'm also guessing that the way you would opt-out would be to essentially turn off the chip through a software switch.

That being said, as much as I understand the thought process and them wanting to be able to broadcast messages to all cell phone users, I too would much rather it be an opt-in type of service - which would negate my entire argument above :)
[General Topics] matoya:
Hmm... a government required chip in every cell phone? I'm not usually a conspiracy kind of person, but why do I get the feeling that no good can come of this?
[General Topics] dardragon:
STOP WASTING MY PRECIOUS HARDWARE SPACE!!

They could've used that spot to place some other chip to improve the phone and just make an app or something
[General Topics] dandv:
Those are good points. Also, in times of emergency, the phone network might become congested, while broadcasting to the chip is essentially a multicast message, which can't suffer from congestion.

As long as the chips are not identifiable and don't transmit information back, I'm okay with them (minus concerns about extra cost and battery drain). They'd be like a GPS receiver, or an atomic clock receiver.

But how can we verify that? Who will manufacture them? Will their hardware and software designs be public? Probably not, so as not to increase the risk of abuse by those who'd love to spam millions of people.

Unfortunately, that wouldn't work, due to human psychology: people are way less likely to opt into a service that has dubious benefits, and opting in takes effort.

For example, consider organ donation in case of a fatal traffic accident: in Germany, which uses an opt-in system, only 12 percent give their consent; in Austria, which uses opt-out, nearly everyone (99 percent) does. The only difference is in the organ donor registration form:

Germany: Check this box if you would like to be an organ donor.

Austria: Check this box if you would not like to be an organ donor.

But you can't opt out of presidential messages. And one can imagine those messages being used for more than emergency alerts. The US lives in climate of terror that makes Americans believe that TSA pat-downs improve security (they don't, they kill people because more take the freeways instead of planes, and about 500 extra people die each year in traffic casualties; plus $4B in lost business).

Presidential messages you can't opt out of are an easy way to escalate the fear-mongering with "terror threat alert" messages. They can later serve as a political platform capable of previously unbelievable reach, pushing the presidential propaganda down the throat of hundreds of millions of cell phone users.

But if we think like psychologists again, what will be the government's response to the comment above? Probably something like "People who hate the presidential messages will just ignore them, so calm down".

And that is exactly the problem: potential mass indoctrination of those who are mildly in favor of the regime, or who are neutral, or not pissed off enough with it. And this is how you get the most converts; not by targeting those vehemently against your opinion. And converts equals votes.
[General Topics] zman519:
This is total MOD EDIT: LANGUAGE I don't want "them" sending me crap! If they want ppl to hear them then the U.S. gov. Can make a MOD EDIT: LANGUAGE app!

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[General Topics] Black6spdZ:
Sure, the chips would most likely be receive only in some low freq band such as 400Mhz, but they could EASILY instruct your phone to start logging the phones GPS position "which would probably also be in this chip" and then just send the data back through the cell network when deemed neccessary! I wouldn't at all doubt the "chip" would have gobs of NVRAM in it.. so you better burn or crush that phone or all its secrets could be revealed. This is almost like them pushing to make "black boxes" mandatory in future vehicles.. people... its coming!
[General Topics] PharmCAT:
What makes you people think that they already don't have access to our data? Why would they need chip implemented when all they can do is ask for the cellphone providers to give up all the identifiable data.

Look at the RIAA/MPAA, do they get your info because you have a government-made chip installed in your computer? No, usually a contacting the ISP is enough for them to find you.

:rolleyes:
[General Topics] juzz86:
I think it's a great idea. Someone here will open it up, install a hacked bootloader and kernel, open a voice tunnel and voila; one nation-wide 400MHz free walkie-talkie. Or just reverse the passage and send spam to the President? Gotta love it.

/sarcasm

This doesn't bode well, especially considering the implications if ownership of this service were to be transferred at all (God forbid). It'll be worldwide though soon enough. I pity you guys :(
[General Topics] rr5678:
I'll tell you where Michael f***ing Bloomberg can stick his chip.
[General Topics] DennisSclan8:
and so 2012 is that many steps less,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?
[General Topics] elfie:
I have gone through security checks in a couple of countries, including US, germany, UK, given an option I'll choose US like security system any day. They are pretty streamlined. I have been from the airport gate to my seat inside the plane in less than 15 minutes, including checking baggages.

In germany they do your security check if you are coming from another country (including US) and heading to another country. Seriously... I don't have your visa, I cannot get out, I just had a security check, where the hell do you think I will acquire new weapons ?

FYI: I live in us, but I'm not an american.
[General Topics] IceDree:
Guys you gotta look at the positive side too , not just the negative\down side only

Why everything have to be invasion of privacy ?

This method can be used to save lives !!! especially in emergencies , with Earthquakes & severe weathers

This way they can warn the public about these sort of this things , as you know Natural disasters can happen in a blink of an eye , but thanks to modern technologies specialists can find out about it before it happens , & these few minutes\hours\days does manner !!!
[General Topics] rush420:
I don't see that much of a problem don't we have emergency broadcast for TV an radio and emergence news reports when there are terrorist alerts, I think its a good idea, as many ppl that use phones it's a good way to get important information to a mass population. As long as stays in the interest of public use like the emergency broadcast systems.
[General Topics] zman519:
Maybe that would be ture if I olny trusted the gov a little bit. But guess what me and every one that's *****ing about it DO NOT TRUST THEM!

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[General Topics] orb3000:
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Please keep discussion on topic and respecting the rules regarding language otherwise thread should be closed
[General Topics] mcmicham:
I think its pretty rediculous to be honest. What does the gov. need to tell me by text message that wouldn't already be on every news channel and newspaper. If they are sending out a text message to every phone that has the chip in it, thats going to be one hell of a depressing message. It would have to be something catastrophic that would impact everyone. It wouldn't be for weather alerts or states of emergency from natural disasters unless there is way to send messages only to certain areas of the US. There are plenty of other channels to get alerts for that kind of stuff.

Everytime somone in congress farts we will probably get a text.
[General Topics] Masacrk:
Obummer wants a new way to get his propaganda to the masses....
[General Topics] Annex1:
I read the article... It says... "It will require a software upgrade"

Thats easy... As long as we keep our phone flashed with custom roms, it won't ask for an upgrade.
[General Topics] PharmCAT:
Hopefully they will not be spamming us. :D

That is mostly my concern. I understand its usefulness if you live in an area that gets a lot of flooding, tornadoes, and such natural disasters. But if you live somewhere in the upper East Coast...There is barely anything happening here. I wouldn't want to constantly be notified about something that is not occurring within my range.

I personally think it should be an "opt-in". If you want it, get it; If you don't, don't get it.

Many universities have text/email/etc. emergency notification services in place, but those are usually opt-in, and those don't require any special alert system to be installed or anything, just mostly text and relevant information. Basically, this is not particularly "new" that they are trying to implement, but seems a bit more intrusive than what we already can use.
[General Topics] zman519:
Ok my bad. I see others ueing the same words as I did all over xda.

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[General Topics] dandv:
You're being watched

That won't work, because very few people will opt in (see the psychological explanation for that in my post above), and there are still lots of phones without app capabilities.

I wouldn't advertise a sig like that too much...

Court OKs warantless cell site tracking

TomTom customers get caught speeding after TomTom leaks navigation data to police

Secret Service busts student after Facebook post
[General Topics] zman519:
I don't really disagre with your points. I simple disagre with the gov Doing this type of thing. Theres wether radios for a reason. If u live where there is real bad wether & you don't have a radio its ur own problem.

As for my sig I thinks its funny. I have always complaned about dumb txting drivers long before it was outlawed in my state. I don't even answer my phone some times when driving. I NEVER TXT AND DRIVE

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[General Topics] orb3000:
Last warning

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[General Topics] dandv:
Let's stay on topic

Alright everyone, let's stay on topic:

* merits of this chip vs. using text messages or other existing emergency alert technology

* technical information on the chip - one of the articles says "For now, the alerts are capable on certain high-end cell phones". Does anyone know which phones?

Orb3000, I asked for the thread to be moved to the general forum, and I apologize for my own political discussions. Feel free to move it back to the Offtopic forum if people prefer to discuss the politics of this proposed measure.
[General Topics] zman519:
Yes does any one have info about phones. Iphone 4? Samsung Galaxy S? Evo3D? Evo? Or.......M

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[General Topics] ceo4eva:
Time to invest in foreign phones
[General Topics] rr5678:
It may not be possible to talk about this without political aspects getting into the discussion......I mean after all, the government is the one doing this.
[General Topics] pbarnum:
Ok... So the question is, how do we get around it? I don't like the government (or anybody) watching my every move and telling me what to do. So what chip do I need to remove and what software do I need to delete to have my phone NOT receive these messages?
[General Topics] joelee100:
Thats what doesn't make sense to me...from what I have read the system is going to rely on the service provider to transmit the text message after it receives it from the Federal, State, or local government...So why the need for a new chip? I also read somewhere that it will rely on GPS...that way the alerts can be geographic specific.

Also, from what I have read, the alert will be in the form of an audible tone(that can not be muted) along with a vibration alert and then a text message on the main screen. The message will not look like a traditional text message, but rather it will just pop up and be displayed automatically on the screen.

Can you imagine hundreds or thousands of phones going off at the most inopportune time for an amber alert? church, wedding, tennis match, etc...

Hopefully the audible alert can be disabled. Also, I wonder if they plan on doing mandatory tests of the system, like they do on tv and radio? That could become real annoying.
[General Topics] dandv:
Where is the technical info?

Using GPS is really unnecessary to tell a cell phone's position, because the cell site triangulation is more than enough for emergencies. GPS means they want to know your exact position and is a huge surveillance problem, as well as a battery drain.

Amazing how little information seems to be available on the technical details of this PLAN. The two articles from FCC are utterly unspecific.

Well, if there's a real emergency, that's the point, get the information to people who are not listening to the radio or watching TV. The problem is when they'll do test runs of the service, though they'll be announced in advance.
[General Topics] xaccers:
You can't take the Daily Hail as a reliable media source :)

SMS is not reliable, it would take ages to send a sms message to all handsets in the area (think of how long that "Happy new year" text takes to arrive), plus as has been stated you'd need to get the message to the operators, and then out to the phones.

Not forgetting the message length restrictions with SMS, how many times have you recieved part 1 and 3 of a 3 part message? Not very helpful if important information is in that missing part 2.

So to get around this you'd need a seperate system which is similar to SMS in that it's text based, but doesn't have the failings of SMS.

Can't you write to your congressmen/senators stating your concerns over the potential abuse of the system and seek assurances that for non-critical messages consumers have to opt in?
[General Topics] joelee100:
Hi dandv, From the FCC website: http://www.fcc.gov/guides/commercial-mobile-alert-system

"Participating wireless service providers must be able to target alerts to individual counties, and ensure that alerts reach customers roaming outside a provider’s service area. Participating providers must also transmit alerts with a dedicated vibration cadence and audio attention signal to ensure the alerts reach wireless customers with hearing or vision disabilities."

Also, I searched my history from yesterday and found this article(not sure how reliable it is) http://macdailynews.com/2011/05/11/...-users-cant-opt-out-of-presidential-messages/

"It will use GPS technology and will send some of the alerts based on the location of the phone user."