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[Thunderbolt General] destroyerbmx:
It would be as simple as them releasing the new GB OTA and S-OFF would be on every thunderbolt. Not that it really matters as we have already cracked it, maybe Moto will follow, I know I personally boycotted their products because of it.
[Thunderbolt General] ikithme:
We will most likely not see this in current phones or phones that are already street dated. We will start seeing this after those if at all.

It's less of a crack and more of a work around. If it were cracked we would be able to go straight to S-OFF instead of downgrading installing an engineering hboot then upgrading again with a special PB05IMG.

http://source.android.com/

Enjoy.
[Droid Eris General] hallstevenson:
Just saw this on HTC's Facebook page:

I suspect the carriers can override this though.... If not though, I'll no longer have to restrict my next phone choice to one that I know is root-able !
[Droid Eris General] tazzpatriot:
i heard about this awhile ago,, there are a few companies that will be following suite:)
[Droid Eris General] ianoob:
Sweet! The Sensation is back on my list (the Function and G2x are the other 2, and I know 2 of those are T-Mobile)
[Droid Eris General] Amazingbman:
Verizon has stated they will allow rootable phones on their network!

Sweet hope they unlock the incredible 2.
[Droid Eris General] phone_cell:
This is excellent news! Perhaps Motorola will review their policy on locked bootloaders. :p
[Droid Eris General] Stonent:
I expect VZW to fight this in other ways. Like I seem to remember them trying to block tethering apps.
[Droid Eris General] ToastPwnz:
Thats a tad different. Rooting doesn't directly make VZW lose any money, however tethering does.

Just in case someone gets the wrong idea, I don't support paying outrageous prices for tethering plans either. If the VWZ CEO's were more "customer smart", they would have considered lowering the cost of their plans, instead of just blocking the applications.

Ah well, money talks.
[Droid Eris General] AdamFerg:
Any ideas on how soon this will go into effect?
[Droid Eris General] doogald:
HTC's announcement has not gone into detail about timing or about whether existing phones will have upgrades with bootloaders that can be unlocked. So, the answer is, no.
[Droid Eris General] AdamFerg:
My assumptions are that even if most phones available now are given upgrade opportunities, the Droid Eris will again be left in the dust and not receive this upgrade just like how unrooted phones are stuck on 2.1
[Droid Eris General] doogald:
We already have an unlocked bootloader for the Eris. It was leaked way back in early 2010; all early rooters (including me) have that bootloader.

That said, I agree that HTC will not be otherwise making the bootloader available to the Eris. The bigger question really is about the currently shipping phones - the Incredible 2, the Thunderbolt, and also a few phones set for imminent release (though I think those are all with other carriers.)
[Thunderbolt General] chrisjm00:
So just wondering if anyone has gotten netflix running on Froyo.
[Thunderbolt General] Matthew_STL:
not yet, tried all 3 released .apks, allows logon but no streaming
[Thunderbolt General] zerocool1969:
They just added more devices for Netflix and the Commando was one....y not the T-bolt???

Mega Byte
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
Was that supposed to be a rhetorical question? If not, it might just do a bit more good to ask netflix and not us.
[Thunderbolt General] 808mauidroid:
Nada it plays for a sec then stops.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jonnypommy:
‎"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC

taken from facebook
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MooreC1:
Now I can go back to HTC.... Yay!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] qipengart:
Yeah but that doesn't help the HTC Thunderbolt, EVO 3D, or the Inspire right now :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mtnhan1996:
So, will there be updates for locked bootloader phone such as wildfire,..??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] xantaro:
I hope so.

But if they don´t release Updates for the older Devices, the chances are better that owners of older devices like the Wildfire buy the new unlocked Phones.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SuperDeform:
Ahh finally back
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] s247:
I really like the quality of the Motorola phones ive had, but this would make me switch to hts for my next upgrade.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] koohkoohbird:
Here's to hoping the Merge makes the cut it is a really slick phone....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nakedirish:
The Evo 3D is the one I care about. I will have patience. This was a great decision.
[HTC EVO 3D] sprinttouch666:
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
[HTC Sensation] JayBachatero:
This just in form twitter.

"We’ve listened. Check out the statement from our CEO, Peter Chou on HTC bootloaders. Click the link for more info. http://on.fb.me/iZXgkR"

https://twitter.com/#!/htc/status/73921320198483968
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
LINK

‎"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience,"

- Peter Chou, CEO of HTC

:D:D:D
[Desire HD General] lidc1y5:
If it true I will thank them and buy their new phone. Money talk more than words.
[Desire HD General] ike2903:
Yeah Is true. Officially postet on HTC facebook Page :D
[Desire HD General] festa20:
This is very good news shame I got a xperia arc now but ive got the trusty dhd still but wanted sensation or evo3d nevermind
[Desire HD General] sromer:
‎"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
[Desire HD General] liljom:
I think it's quite something. And I know that many people will continue to use HTC only because of unlocked bootloaders.

And even poeple who have no clue what the bootloader is, will hear that HTC is for the customers. This post on the facebook will make a huge marketing job for the HTC, and they deserve it.
[Desire HD General] angelahp:
The Facebook says "future handsets" I believe. Do you think they would unlock the DHD or is it too late for us ?

Angie
[Desire HD General] misterzak:
Angie,

We've luckily already unlocked it ourselves. It's just whether they will do the newest handsets like the Sensation
[Desire HD General] ExMM:
I've just read this wonderful news on Facebook!!!! HTC thanks!!!
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
I doubt that they will provide a service to S-OFF phones, but the security measures will surely be very easy to go around. I bet they won't unlock current locked devices like Sensation.
[Desire HD General] liljom:
I think they will consider it. I don't think it's a big deal to release an RUU to do so
[Desire HD General] robE9:
Tbh i think that this is what they wanted, i mean...lock the bootloader > poeple protesting > htc unlocking > people will see how HTC listen to his customers because in no way you can lock the bootloaders and think that most of the people will agree.

And sensation is kinda crap performance wise :( qualcomm is really bad.
[Desire HD General] apoorvajsh:
This is amazing marketing by HTC. By locking the bootloaders, they created a huge controversy. Now they're unlocking it, the dev community breathes a sigh of relief - they gain popularity, respect and most importantly sales.

HTC is a company, they're always going to be about the money. What makes them stand out is that they do that through customer care, a trait which every manufacturer should take.
[Desire HD General] liljom:
have you tried it? because benchmarks doesn't mean much
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
I can get over Sensation but I hope the GSM version of EVO 3D (if ever this will be a reality) will already have an unlocked bootloader. :)
[Desire HD General] mrjonnyrock:
Well this is good news, may well stick will HTC after all :D

If they listened to people regarding the bootloader maybe they will listen if we ask for better camera optics, lenses etc and phones that can use extended batteries.

I am taking about the high/er end phones here, of course :D
[Desire HD General] Tamen:
Great news :D Does this mean custom roms, etc, will still void your warranty? Are there any 'legitimate' uses of unlocked bootloaders (aside from custom roms)?
[Desire HD General] angelahp:
Yes I realise that, if one feels capable of downgrading and switching s off, but I don't ... I just want to be able to root as I did before the 2.2 upgrade
[Desire HD General] madindehead:
The statement does say "future handsets". This is the official HTC statement:

Also, you can unlock the DHD using the instructions here on xda. That's not a problem ;)
[Desire HD General] angelahp:
Also, you can unlock the DHD using the instructions here on xda. That's not a problem ;)[/QUOTE]

Well ... It is a problem for some people, even with the carefully set out instructions by the lovely people on here, you still have to feel confident. I'm completely fine with rooting, it's the downgrading that I'm not sure about. I've tried it twice and get stuck/scared so I have to stop. Although I appreciate you pointing out twice to me that unlocking is not a problem ;-)
[Desire HD General] ozaghloul:
Why is no one giving Anonymous any credit for HTC's decision? They issued HTC with a warning to unlock their bootloaders, or face their wrath like Sony did. I for one think Anonymous was a big factor in HTC's decision. Thank you Anonymous!! :)
[Desire HD General] sromer:
It has nothing to do with anonymous....
[Desire HD General] XifeX:
This is awesome news
[Desire HD General] ced-rick:
the best news of week-end:)
[Desire HD General] dlads:
If you follow all the guides on this section of XDA then you will find that you can unlock pretty much everything about the DHD that you can unlock, so we don't need any help from HTC for the HD, for future handsets even if they do lock the bootloaders, the dev's will find a way around it, they always do.
[Desire HD General] johansenmo:
also very happy about that.

not only developers will be happy but we will be also! great!
[Desire HD General] liquido2:
This is great news. Nice to see a company listen to its customers.
[Desire HD General] zombie.raised:
I am at HTC event now. The folks from HTC confirmed that this applies to any new device and not new releases and existing devix
[Desire HD General] mjehan:
How does this impact the DHD ? Will a future update unlock DHD's bootloader ?
[Desire HD General] mcgrady666:
i dont think so...

i think the newer generations of phones will be with opened bootloader
[HD2 General] Slickickmax:
I just have a simple request or question. If there a way we can get sound to play when we turn the phone (HD2) on and off? Also is there a way to replace certian sounds that are built into the phone? Reason asking is I have a few short but kinda cool and interesting sounds I would like to use for me BOOTUP and my POWER OFF sounds and a nice on to replace the simple low battery tone. Any help or ideas would be great. THANK YOU
[HD2 General] achen_you:
Booting from what? WM or Android?

For WM booting, I think you should cooked ROM builded with no booting sound.

For Android NAND booting, you can remove the android_audio.mp3 inside \system\customize\resources\ folder
[HD2 General] Slickickmax:
I have windows on my HD2
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
Htc has just confirmed that they will not lock bootloaders so here is a big cheers to htc and lets now get this sensation... going lets all thank htc the same way we bashed them..

""There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC"

edit the sensation will be unlocked via ota

"HTC Customer Support Yes, in a future update. Please check our website in the coming weeks for the update!"
[HTC Sensation] lidc1y5:
If it true I will thank them and buy their new phone. Money talk more than words.
[HTC Sensation] Adhiboy:
Just about to post!

Really glad they did that :)
[HTC Sensation] everyday48:
What about people like us already bought from Vodafone with locked device? Any chance to unlock it soon or not?
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
it is true i will edit my post to show what was said.. sensational
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
Now that's what I call customer service!
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
not only customer service they opened the bootloader i open my door and allow the sensation into my house and htc is always a welcomed guess in my house.... lol well the sensation is gonna be sleeping in my bed with me
[HTC Sensation] saveferris:
Nope.......its called power to the people.

Either way......... its awesome news.
[HTC Sensation] cmstlist:
Presumably HTC would have to release an OTA or RUU that upgrades the Sensation to support the sanctioned unlocking method.

If the AWS-band Sensation comes out as an open phone, it's high up on my "next device" list. That or the Nexus 3 :D
[HTC Sensation] stefan.buddle:
More than likely the sensation and announced HTC phones will come with a locked bootloader, they will either make a patch or just not lock future devices. I really don't think they are going to do this so close to launch date..
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
For a June 8 launch, there's probably already 100K boxed and sitting in a warehouse somewhere. They'll have to address it with an update. They're not going to stop the sale date to make s/w changes that 90% of the people buying it don't care about.
[HTC Sensation] Harrysoon:
And HTC just kept my business.
[HTC Sensation] swissman:
It just has been confirmed on FB. No more bootloaders locked! Great!

Source FB and here:Engadget
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
ota fastboot unlock
[HTC Sensation] swissman:
Sorry just a small question as I'm not quite sure I understood (sometime my english's just poor, especially when it's 4:50am ;-).. What about existing devices with a locked bootloaders? Example people having already the Sensation. A new OTA update or they will stay locked?
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
From this is my next:

Information beyond that is pretty much nonexistent. HTC (or whoever runs the account) later said that “more specific details will be shared at a later date.”
[HTC Sensation] swissman:
oh I see... well, just asking because I'm supposed to get my Sensation on Monday. Thanks
[HTC Sensation] Elchemist:
OMG Best damn news about the sensation I have heard in days...

Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] xl DIGITAL lx:
Really great news! Made my day :))
[HTC Sensation] swissman:
Thanks for the "Thanks" guys ;-)
[HTC Sensation] Lightning N1:
Way to go HTC

Made my week, can't wait to get my hands on that Sansation:D
[HTC Sensation] eXelero:
and now I will go for the Sensation :)
[HTC Sensation] xl DIGITAL lx:
Hah you can say that too. God, these days are going by so slow, I want that phone already! Just one and a half more weeks to wait.
[HTC Sensation] eXelero:
good for you. in Bucharest, it is expected in ~ 3weeks :/
[HTC Sensation] swissman:
I should receive it on Monday (though it was announced first for the 12th). I'm just hoping this will not change again the delivery dates!
[HTC Sensation] Poppapete:
HTC has come to it's SENCE('S), sensational.
[HTC Sensation] Longcat14:
I guess HTC will probably release an update the day it's released for us people wanting an unlocked bootloader.

Now this phone can compete against the SGS2, and win. :)
[HTC Sensation] bradsh1:
Let's see if this actually happens for the sensation. If it's true, I might consider it because I don't feel like waiting for the Samsung 4.5" anyway.
[HTC Sensation] recondo1202:
This news has made me finalize my decision...I will be purchasing the Sensation on June 8th! Thank you HTC!

I've always believed that people determine the success or failure of a phone, a company and its reputation in the industry and among its followers...this accommodation and actually listening to the voices of your community will go a long long way in solidifying respect, increasing customer loyalty, and at least for me, has earned a dedicated follower and lifetime customer!!!

The Sensation will be my 9th HTC device in 1.5 years...thank you HTC, your actions are Quietly Brilliant!
[HTC Sensation] Longcat14:
Yep, I've always loved Samsung, but now, HTC is battling for my love.

I'm going to have to sell my Vibrant and iPT4G for the Sensation, but it's worth it. SO worth it.
[HTC Sensation] beautyangel:
Awesome

Peoples Power and Money Over rule the World. Thats we call Business. HTC most WELCOME. Lets wait and see for their UPDATES BEFORE BUYING HTC NEW DEVICES.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
it will be unlocked either by htc allowing a leaked rom that unlocks the phone or they will send out updates to achieve s-off trust me... now i can sleep and stop harassing htc on their facebook page..
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
confirmation of htc evo 3d bootloader lock reversed... so heres to knowing that the sensation will be unlocked shortly.... htc is great
[HTC Sensation] crabjoe:
Where's this confirmation on the E3D? I've only seen the broad statement, made on FB, about future HTC phones being unlocked...
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
the news will circulate shortly but its from an email which has a confidentiality clause to it so just be patient but its s-off and the email is direct from peter chou...
[HTC Sensation] crabjoe:
Thanks!! I was just of HTC's FB page and someone posted a screenshot of the email from Mr Chou. I hope it's not a fake.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
i read through it and looked over everything doesnt look fake
[HTC Sensation] eadred:
I'd be happy to know to which extend does this apply to current owners of htc sensation. I will acquire mine on monday, so it won't be unlocket yet.
[HTC Sensation] animaleyes76:
I would have expected a CEO of a major worldwide company to have better English than that...... It's appallingly bad... IF it was from him that is...
[HTC Sensation] DuoM:
HTC is a Taiwanese company. He could have had someone reply for him but I like the fact that he did it himself.
[HTC Sensation] animaleyes76:
Of course they are Taiwanese, but they are still a global company, and having seen him speak it's not the kinda error he would make.. but anyway..

Let's hope they keep their word and extend to the sensation as well :)
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
same here.... at least we know even the head honcho is still human and can come down to our level
[HTC Sensation] skpManiac:
Fantastic news

I would like to thank everyone who emailed HTC and signed the Petition.

Now let's the DEV's BEGIN!!!
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
i havent had much sleep because i was on the facebook page constantly but i can finally rest easily tonight and look forward to june 8th to get my sensation
[HTC Sensation] skpManiac:
I got mine on Tuesday, its awesome phone, but once the guys on here start, it will be even more awesome :)
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
Get in!

I wonder when we can expect the unlocked bootloader! I also received an email from Peter Chou himself! Now that is customer service!
[HTC Sensation] smx11:
Can you show us the mail? thx.
[HTC Sensation] giorgisp:
HTC will unlock shipping devices too :D

See that --> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1934416953868&set=o.101063233083&type=1&ref=nf

I guess if they can unlock the thousands of EVOs that's probably boxed and sitting in the warehouse, they can unlock the sensation too (and every other phone that they locked with the update).

BTW this is very good news, I woke up, went to HTC's page on fb and the comlaints had been replaced by "thanks" and "we love you".
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
What about sensations which are already out?
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
Haha yeah, I want to know about that too! I emailed Peter Chou back to ask about that. I also messaged customer support. Hope they are helpful as he is!

Email from Peter Chou

Yes, my name is Peter. Lol.
[HTC Sensation] eadred:
Don't you guys think that would be enough now to simply email the customer support instead of the CEO? :o
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
I did that too :p

But good to ask the main man himself too ;) Customer support can be a bit hopeless sometimes ;)
[HTC Sensation] umd:
I must say, I'm very suprised. Yesterday I was thinking another brands phone now thinking for when Sensation'll come here. Anyway it's a great news.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
I can't think of any other example of a company reacting to people SOOOO quickly and actually listening to them. Let's face it, we are a minority of users, and them catering for such a small group is really, really great. Of course while we are a minority, all the hype doesn't improve their reputation, so maybe that's why they are changing their policy, or maybe Peter himself is a bit of a geek, and supports us personally....Who knows.

Think of their reputation now. They are going to be knows as a company which listens to customers, and THAT is very good marketing point. :)

Good luck HTC. Well done.
[HTC Sensation] eadred:
And if every customer thinks the same way, his email box must be pretty flooded. I guess it is going a little over the top to write directly to the CEO. They have accepted to unlock their devices, the rest is only cosmetic and I guess customer support is well qualified to address the further implementation of their decision. Just my own modest opinion. Still, I'd be happy to know if existing devices will also be unlocked...
[HTC Sensation] Scoop24:
Officially ready to get my Sensation now!
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
not sure of how true the rumour is but the evo3d has been rumoured to release on the 4th of june which is kinda far fetched but if its true and that will be unlocked i can expect the tmous sensation to be unlocked too.. so heres to keeping my fingers crossed
[HTC Sensation] sjgore:
You were obviously too busy bashing him for e-mailing the CEO to actually notice that the reply from the CEO said:

and

Excellent news! :)
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
i have to give htc a little credit for responding so quickly - though it should have never been locked to begin with. the REAL credit goes to the silent army of customers who actually invest in their phones like those on XDA . I am sure that 70% of grief they got came from us and from us spreading the word. Good job comrades!!
[HTC Sensation] eadred:
Certainly not willing to bash anyone here, sorry if it sounded like I would. I believe it is a bit far fetched to email the ceo, but then again he replied. Hence, good for him and kuddos to htc. My apologies if anyone felt offended.
[HTC Sensation] moose810:
long waits ahead

that sounds great... now I gotta wait till its released in the US by Tmo, and hopefully it'll be unlocked
[HTC Sensation] rdamcw92:
Good work madindehead. I wanted some clarity before putting my order in. You know i almost bought an sgs2... thank goodness htc changed their minds! Now bring on the unlock and custom roms :-)