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[Epic 4G General] eigerzoom:
iSaint

i'm pointing at the extremes of the human concept

locking down a cell phone has no positive results on the world at large

just like having two kids in stamford only serves one families pride

maybe they will go on to figure out how to extract all the resources from neptune

is that more important than growing a garden in my back yard, producing one 15lb of plastic waste (my dog food bag) every 6-8 weeks...or not reproducing because there is no physical reason to be having children right now...

we can barely figure out basic day to day functions that work for everyone and share in them

yet constantly we push our society to do more, and make more...and never lay down a solid basis that sustains life

that gets chocked up to natural selection...and pat on the back "good luck buddy"

the point is...all our problems can be solved and sustained right here

we just aren't smart enough to look past our own penis or vagina

our own chemistry that drives our actions

to find simple solutions

family first

everything else...ahh **** it i'll get around to that

pride is a deadly poison

JUST SAYIN
[Epic 4G General] i n00b teh pwns:
I don't think this means the fall of HTC. People on XDA are definitely a minority. Even if you can convince a few people to not buy HTC products, they will still make a profit.

It's like the Left 4 Dead 2 boycott on Steam. The game was preordered by more people in the boycott then people who weren't. It's the same principal. People can act high and mighty, but people are people. People lack the willpower to not get something they want. If someone wants an Evo 3D, then they'll get it.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
O i get what you're saying now dude ....

some deep stuff man ... what you smoking ;)

Lol jk
[Epic 4G General] i n00b teh pwns:
You are talking about a phone right? This isn't a matter of life or death. It has nothing to do with your rights. You come off as ignorant and stupid. This is about a damned phone.
[Epic 4G General] ZiggSVO:
Remember, remember the 5th of November. The gunpowder, treason, and plot. I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot
[Epic 4G General] eigerzoom:
and your inability to see the larger picture makes you more ignorant than i

the moment you lose sight of the bigger picture...is the moment you give up the possibilities of what this world could actually be

this isn't about a cell phone...its a chance

a chance for us all to get our heads out of our ass
[Epic 4G General] i n00b teh pwns:
I'm pretty sure HTC has the full right to do this to a product that they made.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Cut the dosage in half or double it Eiger.
[Epic 4G General] eigerzoom:
i'm on hiatus from smoking marijuana

i find i can function and communicate better when i live clean

until my ideas are confronted with enough hatred that i become angry and need to smoke again to relieve the stress of dealing with the world at large

i have no qualms...i know what i need to do to survive

there have been enough plastic cell phones produced for me to make a phone call if i need to without worrying what htc and the rest do to try and segregate the privatized corporations from the general public and our rights

they (the corporations) have no concept on some simple steps they could take to make their own future and the future of the world a better more productive one...without inflicting fear/control en masse.

NONE

in the same token

i see i am confronted with people in the general public with the inability to see simple steps they can take to stop the privatization of large corporations and feeling like they are powerless at changing the future of the world

its only a cell phone

well obviously htc/sprint and many others do not see it that way

and i think you would be hard pressed to think that every one who has a child or children doesn't make a huge ginormous deal about their offspring.

yeah well...i guess you are entitled to your opinion

i am just trying to put things into some perspective of what reality actually might be instead of the one we allow ourselves to believe

JUST SAYIN
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Haha, winnar!!

@zoom You speak of you know what you have to do to survive. I don't want to survive, I want to prosper. Is that bad, according to you? That I actually want more out of life that scraping by, needing only what I need to 'survive'?
[Epic 4G General] rangerover_95:
Eiger.......WTF. I didn't think there was going to be a ****ing philosophy lesson with my daily xda today. I also think that youre point might be more well received if you only had used proper punctuation in your rambling thoughts.

My .02, over.....
[Epic 4G General] i n00b teh pwns:
You're trying to preach "philosophy" that doesn't make any damn sense. Maybe you should go back to smoking and go back to whatever pretentious art school you dropped out. Leave the thinking to people who can actually still do it, because you've killed too many brain cells.

Have a nice day.
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
Unlocked phones only really benefits us nerds. The evo4g.. working at radioshack i sold an insane amount of them. 90%+ of those customers dont even know what root is. Really sucks for us. But its really no sweat off HTC's back. Look at the iphone. I regret to say our populus is technologically retarded.
[Epic 4G General] greezestain:
One man's crusade to inspire zero population growth, one post at a time in a single thread in the Epic 4G General subforum on XDA. Fight the good fight, my man. I think it's working.
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
Dude, what kind of drugs are you on. I need some of what you are doing.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Htc will not reverse what they are doing to the evo3d. The phone is set for release very soon. Hopefully they will down the road. Looks like its the GSII for me or the nexus.

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] silver03wrx:
Somebodys sitting in there basement with. Tinfoil hat high on lsd. Just sayin
[Epic 4G General] damicrobe:
PAM? As in cooking spray? Lol! J/k ;p
[Epic 4G General] daddymikey1975:
in short, without proper encrypted authentication keys, no.

Think "PS3" ish.. only (at this point) not hackable.. (the ps3 was thought to be un-hackable as well, and after 3 yrs or so, it's still not as hacked up as XBOX.. just sayin')

I'm willing to bet with enough dev support/hacking.. at some point in time it'll get hacked.. but there will be newer devices out by then.

I'll hack up my Epic and activate that bastard on Boost if I can't get something else :)

And Eigerzoom.. I used all 5 of my thanks today on your posts.. Glad to see there are others that think similarly :)
[Epic 4G General] Khemul:
No pointing that one out. :p

Pretty sure that counts as a negative, rather then a positive, from the company's point of view.

Lets all be honest here. Allowing us to play around with root and custom ROM, while nice for us, is really not a good business practice. Just consider how many warranty replacements are probably handed out because some person decided to root their phone, but had no idea what they were doing.
[Epic 4G General] silver03wrx:
Not sure if anyone has seen but if you go too htc face book almost 7000 people have signed a protest online. Here is the link if you want to show you disaprove of what there doing sign it ppl. http://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http:...loaders-and-nand/#signatures&h=0659c&refid=20
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I was planning on getting the HTC EVO 3D, but if it's locked downlike this, I may just hold off until the Samsung Photon comes in. Or is it the "Within"? I forget.
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
I really don't think that people who root are as small of a population as some think. Root apps are consistantly at the top of the top rated apps in the market.

It may also just be the nature of our community, but everyone who notices I have a Xoom or Epic usually asks if it's rooted or not. Also my wife who, you would think by any other standard has no clue of root or roms, rooted her optimus one day while I was at work.

And to the off topic population growth and big corporation talk - there is no other greater reward on Earth than being a father, I'm sure your parents felt the same way about you all. I'm kind of glad some of you do not want to procreate. Our gene pool needs to be thined a little.

And I loooove big corporations, they pay me money in exchange for skilled labor so I can have nice toys that consume fossil fuels and take up valuable resources that would otherwise just be sitting in the ground.

And guys lack of punctuation, basic thought organization, and grammar is probably his own protest of conforming to the standard in which we all communicate. That or spending way to much time fighting the good fight online, one thread at a time and getting tied up in a world of its own language...da interwebz makz u sto0pid.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Everyone else I know doesn't have their devices rooted, but I've converted them. (haha).

I think that us, the "minority" is growing at a rapid rate and when people see/notice the potential in rooting their devices, they will be using a lot more network data (costing the carriers money). I don't even need to be rooted to tether (at least wired), I can just use Easytether, but what would really kill me is not being able to theme for my phone. Loading custom roms/themes make my phone a lot more fun than it already was.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Bro its the Photon ... but its Moto :(

... and we know their reputation
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
They've made an announcement that they're not locking down devices anymore. It'd be pretty bad for a company of that size to outright lie to their customer base.

EDIT: Yup,

SGSII coming to Sprint (rumor) will be "Samsung Within".

Photon (aka Moto Atrix rebranded) is coming to Sprint as the Moto Photon.
[Epic 4G General] eigerzoom:
waste of space and time and not afraid to admit it

you go girl!

thinned is spelled thinned...not thined

love is spelled love...not looooove

being rewarded for procreation is much like accepting a cookie from god

if you believe in god...or are compelled to, to assign meaning to things you cannot understand

why should i be responsible for what compels you

if you look far enough down the well of a persons actions over the course of a lifetime and compare them to what makes sense for a person to do in a lifetime

i wonder how long it would take for people to stop and have a look and reconsider what they do in day and maybe we might have something better to assemble for besides a preplanned concert or the next release of a plastic product or voting or watching fireworks on the 4th of july.

JUST SAYIN

maybe there's a good reason you cannot find the rewards in life from procreation elsewhere

maybe the ability to procreate is merely you just settling for what you have built in

maybe you cant find anything worth living for besides your squirt gun

i'm willing to try...how about you

let me get this straight...you can have children all you want...

but a cell phone company deserves your input since they design **** for you

children...meh...just a squirt away...dont rely on a village or anything beyond your 4 walls for success...because success is just sitting around on the couch ordering plastic products or driving around town wasting fossil fuels we might need one day for something more important

i understand completely

there's no room here for discussion...at all...this **** called life is locked away...no room for ANYTHING but preformed horse**** your gov decided a millenium ago

"gooooood" for you man

we all have something to be proud of now that you are all set and decided on how life is going to turn out for us all
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
:eek:

WHAT!! they aren't going to lock it down ??

where'd you hear that dude ? :D Awesome news
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
..... Dude wtf are you talking about ?
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Sorry for triple post but /........

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

E3D NOT LOCKED!!!!

""There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC"
[Epic 4G General] eigerzoom:
Hooray!!!! Everyone go make babies!!!! AND drive around town and eat some mcdonalds !!! AND go see a band who sells you back your soul because you couldn't find it in the first place!!! and make a documentary about it!!!!

and post it on XDA!!! and send your kids off to school so they can eat plastic!!! and stuff!!!

THANK YOU HTC...WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU...YOUR THREATS AGAINST OUR FREEDOMS...AND THE POTENTIAL YOU HOLD IN YOUR HANDS TO DESTROY LIVES BY LOCKING DOWN DEVICES...WHILE PEOPLE DIE IN THE STREETS...BUT THANKFULLY THEY WILL HAVE A SHINY NEW CELL PHONE THAT CAN RECORD THEIR OWN DEATH IN 3D AND BE ROOTED....HOORAY!!!
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
WE WON!!! EVO 3D will not be locked down, and no HTC device ever will be from now on! HTC listens to its customers :)

I'm sooooo glad I decided on the EVO 3D. I love HTC :)
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Yep... i'd take eigerzooms idea and make babies with HTC right now...
[Epic 4G General] eigerzoom:
now if i can only get them to include a keyboard with a dedicated number row instead of 3 dimensions...i might be able to tell chamchoon to take a hike

why is this in the samsung forums again?
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
https://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Just a few articles

phandroid: Behold, the Power of the Android Community: HTC to Unlock Future Bootloaders http://bit.ly/mPFhup

engadget: HTC officially dissolves locked bootloader policy http://engt.co/jX5BqL

androidcentral: HTC announces new bootloader policy http://bit.ly/mFFE8V #android

Sent from my perfect epic
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
I'm sorry, where the hell are you guys getting that the Evo3d will not be locked down?

Evo3d is days away from launching. I hope for your sake that its not locked, but by no means does this statement indicate at all either way if it will or won't be. If I had to guess, since its literally days away from launching and they have probably begun to ship them and certainly have been manufacturing and boxing them, that it WILL ship with a locked bootloader.
[Epic 4G General] ZiggSVO:
is there a way they can push an update that would unlock it? whether it be OTA or like a download link :p I'm not getting an Evo3D but just hoping for those that are ;) But I also read that its about future devices not ones already developed and ready to ship :p
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
http://bit.ly/lVtT5S

They say it directly in the PhoneDog article that the EVO 3D WILL be locked...
[Epic 4G General] ZiggSVO:
They say they aren't sure how it will affect devices like the Evo3D
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Really? Clicks link. Ctrl-F evo3d. Hmmmm.
[Epic 4G General] Rem3Dy:
Either poor reading compression or a failed troll attempt.
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
It will apply to the Evo3d. I can almost guarantee this.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
How? Are they going to open up all of those boxes that they have undoubtedly have begun shipping from manufacturing to Sprint? Or are they going to retroactively release an OTA that unlocks it? Either way at launch I wouldn't be surprised if the Evo3d had a locked bootloader, just like I wouldn't be surprised if HTC released an OTA soon afterwards to remedy the situation.

Or maybe I am way off and they haven't started manufacturing and boxing the Evo3d yet.
[Epic 4G General] ZiggSVO:
It wouldn't be the first time a phone has been delayed, but I highly doubt they would delay one of their soon to be "flagship" devices...they've undoubtebly dump an a$$load of money into this lol

we keep bringing up the same reasoning...I like the way you think haha
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
A simple OTA can open up the bootloader. However, with my 30 day satisfaction guarantee, if I cannot root my 3D by the 29th day, I'm returning it. aha!
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
You'll probably be able to root it but custom roms would be a no go until they open the bootloader.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Just cause they say that does not mean that the evo 3d will be unlocked. That phone is coming out very soon. It may start after that device. We will see.

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/04/2...der-stance-plans-to-unlock-portfolio-in-2011/

For iSaint, upon request. (Motorola statement on future devices)
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
It's debatable. I really hope I can theme for the EVO 3D, I'd love to be one of the first themers out there. :p
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
Haha that would be a failed reading attempt. I just skimmed horribly and should have re-read before posting. Oops.
[Epic 4G General] ZiggSVO:
better to fail at reading then trolling ;)

most people dont like trolls lol
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
HTC (and hopefully the other manufacturers take note) that even though the "hacker" community who root their phones may be a small percentage of the overall owners of Android phones, but it is those people who help spread the word and make other people (the circle of influence factor) buy more Android phones. I personally have helped at least 50 people in my company on their phone purchase when they were wishing to upgrade their phones, since I'm the tech guy in the company. Remember also many of the writers on different websites that review phones are enthusiasts as well, and having bad press could make or break a phone's success. Keeping the hard core enthusiast community happy ultimately yields better sales.
[Epic 4G General] darksideauto:
the people who make the device should worry about making the device. the people who provide the service should worry about providing the service. the software we use on the device to access the service shouldn't be an issue.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Top Nurse had it right... Im more for moving for Tablets and tiny PHONES... maybe BT headset size. As far as the 3d... I doubt they will have a problem updating them before launch, should they choose to do so, as they ship what, 5 at a time to each store to inflate demand... because each evo is handcrafted by only the finest children. Really im glad they saw Samsung so many times on their FB and whatever that they wised up, and if moto had already backed off this is good... maybe they will put the carriers in line... threaten to only make android tabs, and flip phones! As the people who say that rooters are a minority, then that also means that theres a slim minority of that minority that truly bricks a device and defrauds insurance. Maybe they should just make them nearly unbrickable like the Epic.

ummm... crazy conspiracy guy... lighten up. I have been an anarchist for years, and poorly thought out statements like that are what discredit 'our' side... as im not sure where exactly youre coming from, but I agree with most of what I can glean from your ramblings. Except the whole breeding thing... for one, dumb issue to be a **** and throw in peoples faces, as that makes 'us' little friends. Two, yes, I am a father, one child, in the first world, where there is roughly zero population growth, in fact there will be a decline when that lovely generation the baby boomers who reaped the benefits of raping the earth finally pass on (no offense to those of that generation, unless you know youre a gross consumer, if so you probly couldnt care anyways). So point is, most people on this forum are from first world or second world countries, who dont have population problems, we have wealth distribution problems, waste of resources problems, and all sorts of other late roman social ills. But you know what, im raising my first world son to see whats really going on around him, and to think for himself, I even left my beloved city for a sort of suburb (still poor) so that he can get a decent education, at least early on, until hes old enough to leave the public school system. Anyways, now Im rambling... point is, you are trying to make a good point, to a generally receptive crowd (we all bend rules to make our lives better, and for the most part harming nobody in the process), but you are attacking them because they are messin with you about the tinfoil hat... I personally think 911 was a false flag operation, but I dont usually talk about it because most people classify that with elvis, aliens, and JFK nutjobs. Think before you speak, you represent some good ideas, and people, dont **** it up for the rest of us.
[Epic 4G General] Etrick:
Not so fast folks.... Htc flipped the script...

http://m.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news...aders-of-android-phones-will-be-unlocked/2643
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Yeah we saw that but that doesn't mean the evo3d will be unlocked.

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G General] JohnCorleone:
Yeah but the question becomes what if its shipped locked and an update to unlock it is promised? I guess people can get it and if it is locked, wait until day 29 and hope the update is quick. I find it hard to believe that the first run of these phones aren't already built, boxed up, and ready to be released unless HTC has a really streamlined manufacturing facility. Another question that could be raised is when the CEO says "future releases" if he isn't considering phones designed from this day forward or including the EVO 3D in with that. Sounds shady so close to release date. I wanted to get it on launch day but now I am really undecided.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
I feel the same way John. The phone is so close to release date that I doubt it they can unlock and keep the release date. They wont delay their flagship phone for that reason. I will simply wait and watch and see what happens. If it wont be unlocked then its time for the sgsII

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] essdee:
I knew it!!!

engadget.com/2011/05/23/caption-contest-htc-chairwoman-cher-wang-drops-by-apples-palo/
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
No they said that the E3D will be unlocked... and since they never confirmed a date they'll just hold it back a few to unlock them.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Where is the source for that?

Edit: nevermond dae the email from htc and it did say that the evo3d will be unlocked

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1934416953868&set=o.101063233083&type=1&ref=nf
[Epic 4G General] JohnCorleone:
Nice find!!
[Epic 4G General] empiire:
HTC announced last night they won't be locking the bootloader...?
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
I believe it will be locked or rather is locked, future devices and possibly an update may be unlocked.

I'm a bit leary on this whole thing, as htc may just be saying what you want to hear so it wont hurt sales of upcoming devices.

Side note; I just read the review of the sensation on engadget and it looks as tho the sgs2 will be on par or better in most areas. The fact that its bootloader is unlocked, makes it the winner IMO.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Nope Evo 3D will come unlocked apparently thanks to Emails from HTC... and so will all their devices from now on...But because of this its release might be a little later....

Now thats an awesome company they responded so fast and actually care what their consumers think 8)
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
We hope

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!