yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ip4589:
Pull the battery than hit the power button with volume down.

That should do it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mojonation1487:
lol does it take more than 45 seconds. no.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tu3218:
I held it down for 30 sec and I know it doesnt take that long...

EDIT: I got in by selecting the option under restart.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] capflya:
Ate they labeled P05IMG.zip on the root of sd card? It should detect it if it's named that...

Sent from my GingerBamf'd Remix Thunderbolt - going back to froyo :/
[Thunderbolt Android Development] want a droid:
There's a thread in general discussion with a poll asking what everyone plans to do. Go vote if you don't mind!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dc iz 2 legit:
Again can I flash a froyo radio than boot up erase the radio than boot to cwm and nandroid a backup
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BennyJr:
Yeah thats what i did
[Thunderbolt Android Development] major_works:
Just to clarify... once I've reinstated the Froyo radio linked in the OP, would I then want to restore my Nandroid backup of stock Froyo?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] capflya:
Try pulling the battery for 30 secs then put it in and hold the pwr and vol down.

Take the phone out of a case if you have one. My silicone case is hard to push volume sometimes.

Sent from my GingerBamf'd Remix Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mojonation1487:
lol accidently threw a typo in. But the whole not booting into hboot is weird.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Cubs2008:
The key with this issue is that it's a RADIO problem. At some point the radios will be updated and I'm sure they will be leaked and we can all safely go back to GB.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Lionheart7:
Thank you Jcase.

I just wanted to thank the devs especially Jcase for helping the community. U guys are the ones moving Android forward. I will miss my Bamf Remix GB but I prefer to have a phone to test more Bamf releases on the future.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] vypurr:
I too hit this problem yesterday. I worked with jcase all night (THANKS SO MUCH!) But at the end my phone cannot be fixed. It is 100% bricked. There is no saving it. Reloading the stock RUU (root or unroot) does not fix this.

You saved me from having to type this all out. I had an identical experience:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1094772

There are no signs folks! I was listening to music, reset my phone and then boom, I was in bootloop hell! GET GB OFF YOUR PHONE UNLESS YOU CAN AFFORD TO BUY A NEW PHONE AT FULL PRICE. There is no guarantee that Verizon will replace my phone at this point! (nor should they have to)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tu3218:
Well luckily I got it to work by selecting the bootloader option under restart. I have no idea what was up with that. But yeah, if it comes up again I'll try what you said about taking the battery out. Thanks for the help!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nic2112:
Thanks JCase for the heads up. Going back to Froyo right now!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jacobk:
do we have confirmation of this happening to other GB ROMs besides BAMF 2.0?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MrHawaii:
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] magicriggs:
ROFL!!!!!!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dirtyfingers:
Apparently its a radio problem so yes, all GB roms would be using this radio.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Cubs2008:
What's amazing is back on Froyo I plugged my Bolt into my laptop and pressed "Disk Drive" and the freakin' thing mounted right away! Amazing! :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jacobk:
your response doesnt answer my question at all
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shelooga:
uh oh. deleted the file, wiped cache and dalvick 3 times a piece, restored a back up, and im still in the clouds.

factory reset time
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tu3218:
Does anyone know any particular cause to this? I know its something with the radio but hasn't everyone been using this radio for a month or so now? Did something change on verizons network to lead to this problem? Cause I haven't heard of anyone bringing up this issue. Oh well, I'm back on froyo now and can't wait for bamf 1.7!! I have a lot of updates to go through now in the market lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wctaylor79:
I got insurance.. If it bricks then I guess I will have to forget it behind the wheel of the car....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BennyJr:
lol its a beautiful thing eh :cool:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dnakaman:
Ya I figured I would just change the radio back and leave my Bamf 2.0, so that I could act like I owned an Iphone, LOL. (AKA Fancy PDA)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] erishasnobattery:
If anyone in the St. Louis Metro area experiences this, please PM me. We'd like to get our hands on one of these devices for some testing. Thanks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] antwan30184:
Can anyone confirm this is happened Gingeritis VIII? Im by no means an expert but wouldnt it not help to tell everyone which Roms CONFIRM to be affected. If it happen to you or someone you know. Which rom and version were they running. Maybe some information like were they in 4G area, 3G area, 1x something to troubleshoot from. Seems like a whole lot of warnings but lack of information. maybe its just me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
Cm7 doesn't work with gb radio.

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Fascinated II
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlouang:
It is hard to downgrade back since Sense 3.0 lockscreen is addicting.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jmiller98:
Thanks jcase. You a man with integrity, putting the community members above development of leaks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] LexusBrian400:
Mine did this also. When I finally turned it off, it would not power back up. I managed to come out of it with some dicking around, ( several boot loops, SD card pulls, different batteries) flashed back to froyo and everything is all good.

Strange.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jacobk:
exactly. and if chingy does not agree with this advice to revert to froyo then it would be nice if his opinion was posted here and not just alluded to
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 92slammer:
thanks for the heads up....sucks leaving gingerbread but its better than a bricked phone
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shiftyshadee:
Mirrors for the RUU please?

Sent from my ADR6400L
[Thunderbolt Android Development] antwan30184:
Agreed. I really appreciate the hard work and the heads up. But what Roms are being affected. And yes i know the issue seems to be with the Radio. But im curious if its just Radio or is it Radio+Rom+Kernal some people are running. And obviously im not an expert just a concerned TB user. running a bad ass Gingeritis VIII rom with ZERO problem outside the initial 3 reboots.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] GreginNH:
Cubs, did you hboot that ruu that jcase had in the OP or did you flash another radio and then restore a backup or flash a 2.2 ROM?....just wondering what the best way would be...I would love to get back to BAMF stripped 1.1

Thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wowthatisrandom:
im watching the tornados while rolling back to froyo lol

but im in stl :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
I'm gonna blame all my kernel issues on the radio and go back to cm7 myself. :p

sent from my phone running leanKernel + gingerjane
[Thunderbolt Android Development] antwan30184:
Sounds recoverable with a bunch of dicking around.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Forgetfull:
What radio does the file in the OP have? The original or the recent OTA?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidTh3ory:
All I heard in that was Test6 dropping later this night. Including Call Recording and 1.92.

Lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 98ramair:
I just traded phones with my wife (my new charge for her old stock bolt). Loaded the alpha radio this morning and have everything the way I want it. Ugh!

I am going to gamble and let it ride for now. I will make sure I keep my trusty a855 charged up, just in case.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Taykiin:
I just wiped/factory reset, flashed Bamf Remix, partially booted, battery pulled then HBooted Froyo Radio and good to go!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animere:
NO problem on BAMF 2.0-4.1 for 4 days now
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Kennyc11:
Well GB was fun while it lasted. Flashed the RUU in the OP and then flashed DasBamf 1.6.3, everything went smooth. Thanks for the heads up JCase. Will probably give CM7 a whirl and wait for a more stable radio.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] grandenigma1:
I restored a backed up BAMF 1.6.3 then flashed the old radio.... good to go.

Must say, sucks that there is a possibility of bricking as the BAMF 2.0-5 seems to be the most stable ROM I have ran so far.

At least I get my call recording back... I am currently dealing with a number of contractors and subs and this helps greatly to recall what was discussed and to hold them to their word.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] vypurr:
I was in your boat yesterday...Now I own a very expensive paperweight! Is it worth it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
He is free to post his opinion here, and his thoughts are welcome.

I respect him as a developer, and his thoughts on the cause are welcome.

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Fascinated II
[Thunderbolt Android Development] want a droid:
In the poll thread, 1 person has reported being bootlooped while 25 have reported not. Our percentages are looking good right now, but I did revert to Froyo just for the time being.

If the numbers go up (ie. 100 to like 5) then I'll probably go back to GB.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] doug piston:
Of those who have had this issue, how many were OC'ing? While not very experienced in this device I have seen a rise in the same issue but for the Incredible.

Hboot will work as normal, it will flash the img's yet you still be in a boot loop. There have been ways to get it to boot but they are off the wall methods and will only run for a few minutes. Leads me to think Oc'ing + HTC is not a good thing.

This is a completely uneducated thought and just passing it along..
[Thunderbolt Android Development] vypurr:
For the sake of adding information here:

DAS BAMF - 2.05 (with patch)

1.4ghz (smartass)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MrHawaii:
Could it be related to the leftover files issue I posted about? Files being leftover when flashing from ROM to ROM could conflict correct?

That is why now I have been flashing back to Froyo before I flashed a new GB ROM. Been working fine.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] joshnichols189:
It shouldn't matter what # report something and what # report something else.. just the fact that there is a CHANCE of my $600 dollar phone turning into a paperweight is enough.. Unless people like throwing money away/around, I don't see why anyone else would take the risk.

"But I've been running smooth for FOUR WHOLE DAYS"

is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And those statements usually come from the people who don't even have any idea what they're doing in the first place.

Hate to break it to you guys, how your phone is running now has nothing to do with if it will be bootlooping/bricked in ten minutes.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
Feel free to keep running gb, we have no further information.

I would revert.

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Fascinated II
[Thunderbolt Android Development] joshnichols189:
My phone is also at these settings (until I get MR1 dl'd)

So I might be next D:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] want a droid:
So if the numbers showed let's say 500 bootloop free over the past week, and 10 bootlooped, you still wouldn't risk it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] richB7:
I knew there was a reason for keeping several radio images around on my sdcard. Makes this sort of thing a little less stressful. Think I'll continue that practice.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
That is a 2% chance by your numbers, I wouldn't risk it.

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Fascinated II
[Thunderbolt Android Development] miketoasty:
First off I just wanted to say that people who stay on GB then when your phone bricks and you decide to "lose" it that is insurance fraud and you are giving Verizon reasons to push company's into locking our bootloaders so just wanted to say thanks.

Second, Cyanogenmod is full gingerbread. Going back to a Froyo radio does not mean you have to stay on Froyo.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MrHawaii:
I also believe the fast boot option in power settings could Bork some stuff up. I noticed in all the GB roms they came loaded with that feature checked wherein the Froyo roms did not. That is one of the first things I change when flashing a GB rom.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shiftyshadee:
Truth

Sent from my ADR6400L
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Build date of GB leak was 5-9. We saw it about 4-6 days later.

Do the math. Nobody has been on the radio for a month or so.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] joshnichols189:
No, what kind of mindset is that? It's a PHONE, and I need it for a few things, but mostly I need it to be a PHONE. If it's bricked, it's not a phone, and I have to send it in. When I send it in I will either be charged $150 or $600 for a replacement, so I'll have to go even longer without a PHONE.

And hell, if the problem is being narrowed down like this, why risk it? Honestly. What are you getting from GB that you didn't get in Froyo? Netflix? Zomgah I spend so much time watching netflix on a 4.3 inch screen.. And no, you won't be using NFC anytime soon so don't try and pull that one.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] crash1781:
Does best buys black tie protection cover lawn mower "accidents". If so I'm sticking with GB.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MrHawaii:
I thought I remember someone in the general forums reported this type of issue and was nonrooted. And another that was rooted and when they took in for repair the manager said they have been getting multiple issues like this and some were not rooted.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Fast boot would not cause reboot loops in Recovery, or the inability to mount the partitions.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Is this a "feeling" or do you have an actual example?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidTh3ory:
May I have that Soapbox for a minute??? I pay monthly for insurance, and then have to drop another $100. If I ever file a claim. When I decide to use what I am paying for, I will. It doesn't come for free.

And if it makes the grey line a little more black and white.... How about I really lose it?? I'll tell them it broke, get a new one and send this one back, for them to refurb and sell yet again. Lol.

Win win as far as I'm concerned.

:)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] want a droid:
Sense 3.0's features are a very big plus. The lockscreen and camera are amazing. Also GB runs a lot smoother for me than Froyo.

But like you said: to each his own.

I can have another thunderbolt in under 36 hours if need be.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MechaMorph:
Thanks for the head's up. Just flashed back to the Das Bamf 1.6.3 radio and Das Bamf 1.6.3.

I assume that flashing a Froyo radio and flashing a Froyo ROM is the equivalent to flashing the MR1 RUU?

Man I hate Sense but I'm sure gonna miss that badass 3.0 lockscreen. :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] antwan30184:
Thanks for the response. Again I appreciate you looking out for us TB users. I would hate to get caught of guard by this happening.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] joshnichols189:
You would risk at least $150 over a lockscreen that has four app shortcuts and a widget?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] miketoasty:
Okay and when HTC starts locking up their bootloaders (Which they have already begun doing) you will be the first person I blame.

You pay for accidents to the phone not the user being a dumbass.
[Xoom General] jtorral:
Well, I just bought a wifi xoom and absolutely love it! I tether it to my Nexus one via wifi hotspot on my phone. (dont pay a dime extra) thanks to nexus :) However, I am really wondering if I should get the 3g/4g version of this and only pay for the net when I need it. It would be nice but is it that much better than tethering? Also, since the 3g is verison, does that mean updates will be treated differently than the wifi non branded version? Does version have more control over the updates or will they still be google ?

Thanks
[Verizon Droid Charge] robby88:
My bluetooth doesn't seem entirely functional on my Charge after the ED2 + CWM flash, it will pair with my pc but can't find any drivers for it (i use my bluetooth for a few things, i know i have everything up to date) but i CAN connect a headset to it

I have a Transformer and it seems bluetooth tether is the only way to share my connection with it D:

I've also checked my transformer it connects to everything no problem

Mainly has anyone else tried the wireless tether for root via bluetooth and it worked/didn't work?

The wifi part of the app works perfect with my laptop but when i switch it to bluetooth it just says my phone is in an unknown state and asks me to reboot.
[Atrix 4G General] motionUS:
I just purchased a Atrix yesterday at the NO Committment price. After playing with it last night I received an email from ATT, telling me that I need to switch to a 4G plan. I was planning to move my iphone sim back and forth between the phones. I do not want to lose my unlimited data. Is this not possible? I have a micro sim to sim adapter so the sim card is not a problem. The data seemed to work find between the phones. If they can't do this I will have to return the Atrix as I want to keep my unlimited data.
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
before i sold me iphone 4 i used to do this as well. I bought a micro sim adapter from amazon and switched between the atrix and ip4. Not once did i receive an email or txt...hmm... ill keep an eye out now...
[Atrix 4G General] co.ag.2005:
yes, you can keep your unlimited plan. many on XDA still have theirs! just go through the process they outline, make sure they keep you on unlimited, and you can still sim swap just fine. (I don't think this will muck up a sim swap from iPhone to Atrix and back)
[Atrix 4G General] motionUS:
are you happy with the Atrix?
[Atrix 4G General] ShawnXVIII:
I work at an ATT retail store just tell them you're doing a smartphone to smartphone exchange and you want to keep your unlimited data. No problems
[Atrix 4G General] co.ag.2005:
yes I am. It is a great device! I am awaiting shipment of a Samsung Galaxy S II just to see what all the hype is about. I plan on keeping my Atrix as well, so we will see how it goes. But my ordering the Galaxy S II has no bearing on what kind of phone the Atrix is. I think the Atrix is still phenomenal. If you are coming from an iPhone, there are definitely differences between each OS and you will be doing more learning of Android in general than just the Atrix. Enjoy!
[Atrix 4G General] fincan:
If you already have the iphone unlimited data plan, you can just call them and tell them you want to keep your unlimited plan and switching from iphone to atrix. You are entitled to "grandfather" your current unlimited plan to atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
The OP said he/she wants to move the SIM back and forth between phones!

You cannot do this. The iPhone and Atrix are different plans. You can keep your unlimited if you choose to use one or the other, but there is a smartphone plan, iPhone plan, and Blackberry plan. You can't jump between them at will because you have 2 phones! You will have to choose one phone and stick with it. You could do this with for example 2 Android phones, 2 iPhones, or 2 Blackberry phones, but not mixing them up.
[Atrix 4G General] Tikerz:
I have found that if you have the iPhone data plan you CAN sim swap, but if you have the smartphone data plan on your account data will not work on the iPhone if you swap.
[Atrix 4G General] motionUS:
Maybe I shouldn't contact them and just leave use the iphone plan on the atrix. Everything seemed to work fine. Isn't it true that there is no such thing as a 4g sim card?
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
That is just not true. You can swap at will with the unlimited "4g" plan.
[Atrix 4G General] aver2one:
What about your voicemail..i was going to do the same thing with the sim adapter but I phone uses visual voicemail and atrix uses regular voicemail system
[Atrix 4G General] Greg11784:
I was able to keep the plan but I did have to get a new SIM card. They said it was for the 4G support. So I'm not sure if it's compatible or not.
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Voicemail will be messed up.

There is a SIM card with 4G on it but it's no different from 3G card with fireball on it. If you have card earlier than that you need new one.

Sent from WinBorg 4G via XDA premium app
[Atrix 4G General] BrandonBlight:
I don't know if iOS supports google voicemail, but I love it on my Atrix.

Swifted from my Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] Exthero:
When I did my upgrade from the iPhone 3Gs to the Atrix, I was told that I could keep the unlimited data plan as I was "Grandfathered" in.
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
You did not need a new sim
[Atrix 4G General] sifon187:
When I changed from my Iphone 3G to my Focus, I was Grandfathered per AT&T. The rep told me "As long as you keep buying smartphones, you will be grandfathered in" IDK if I use my upgrade in June if this will still apply thouigh.
[Atrix 4G General] big_redfox:
They will do something in two weeks

In my case, ATT did not do anything until 2 weeks later. ATT has different data plan names for iPhone and non-iPone smartphone. I believe iPhone plan is named dataPro and 4G plan is dataPlus. If you do not call them up, they might switch you to the 2GB/month 4G plan in two week.s
[Atrix 4G General] Hydro360:
Mine was instant. I went from captive to atrix and it just would not work at all
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jann32:
hey

i am trying the whole day to fix my phone. but i guess it is almost imposible :/

i can't get in recovery mode (nothing happens) and can't turn in on (only vibrates once, black screen)

i have been told to download to download

OTA_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5-2.29.405.2_releasedauhl6jhok5cmdm6.zip

and rename it to PB99IMG.zip and put it on sd, which i did, but how can i flash it if my recovery mod can't start up?

please help?

ANY suggestions???? please heeelp! :/
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tillus:
It would be helpful it you told us what you did to get your phone into this state. ;)

Can you get into fastboot? (power on while pressing back-button)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jann32:
i installed

RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe

via fastbooth

do you know what to do... please say yes :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jann32:
no i can't get into fast boot... ://
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Richpopski123:
I suggest you read the notice from jcase... I'm guessing you were runiing gb?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tillus:
you ruu was too old - this version doesn't have the required drivers for SLCD.

That means, you phone probably does work, but the screen is black.

I don't know how to solve this (probably by flashing the newer RUU, Version 2.29....) exactly, but hopefully this gives you a clue where to look for a fix.

There were many people experiencing this after Froyo was available. They did the ota-update, then noticed, that it wasn't possible to root with the new bootloader (Version 0.93ish) at that time, which was installed along with the froyo-ota, so they tried to downgrade back to 2.1 and ended up where you are. (bootoader .80 instead of .83ish).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jann32:
jcase??

i had this rom

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1040121

which didn't work and because of it i couldn't restore any of my previous roms. that is why i had to flash a rom from my computer fastbooth

have u any suggestions what should i do?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jann32:
yes... that makes sense. but does really no one have any clue what to do?? :( i worked the whole summer for this phone and now is gone