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[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] vijaysapkota:
Can you give some more information about it?
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] mattfmartin:
I just d/l g tunes yesterday from the market. What a coincidence.

R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] hernandez_efras:
Sure, what info do you need?

~Krash
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] hernandez_efras:
Also, if you are using a HD2, then the app is no longer available to download. I'm not sure about other phones. If you find it on the Market, then by all means download it from there. That would definately be better as you would get the newest version.

~Krash
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] j_j2:
Thanks OP for uploading this. Really appreciate it
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] tgtoys:
I realized the same thing, couldn't find it in my HD2 or MT4G.

Looked around a bit and found Music Mate, interface looks and operates almost identical to GTunes, try it out.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] waqarhussain22:
will have it a try ... thanks
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Touchsense:
try this .......

http://www.1mobile.com/app/market/

u will find here all types of apps.... :D
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] jaymact:
thanks you
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Yerdan:
Thank you for the Gtunes.apk link. Has anyone been able to get an updated version. I have actually recently seen Gtunes lite pop up on the market but it is gone once again
[General Questions and Answers] paysonwelch:
Hi,

I am looking for information on how to root using the terminal / adb. I consider myself a very advanced user, I have 15 years of coding / development experience on many platforms.

I am going to start developing apps for Android, not just install new ROMs etc. So like any power user I am looking for detailed information on how to use the terminal to crack root on an HTC Evo Touch 4G so that I know specifically how to do this, not just run a script.

Specifically I am looking for a recipe style list of commands, tutorial, or any other good documentation. I searched around the web and on this site however I only seem to find information on how to use pre-packaged scripts / apps.

Thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] paysonwelch:
Should I try posting this in a different forum?
[General Questions and Answers] xantaro:
A good place to get startet is the C-Skills blog. There you can find the Gingerbreak binary for Rooting Froyo, Ginderbread & Honecomb. Theres also the code of the Exploit availible afaik.

http://c-skills.blogspot.com/2011/04/yummy-yummy-gingerbreak.html
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexhtclegend:
Yesterday I tried installing ogo2's Gingerbread/HTC Sense ROM using clockworkmod, but it couldn't format SD-ext (too big I think - 2gb), then after installing the ROM for 3-4 minutes it said checking permissions, then installation aborted. What can cause this to happen?

To add insult to injury I couldn't restore any of my Nandroid backups because there was an 'error writing boot.img'. I flashed B 0.8, and enabled data2ext, then all my apps came back as the SD-ext couldn't be formatted. However, many of these no longer open so I'm having to reinstall them.

My question is what can cause the problems above? Especially the checking permissions one. Also, I'm using BlaY0's customized clockworkmod 3.0 in case that matters.
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BartAertgeerts:
How many times did you try to install?

I've had it too, but 2nd time I tried, it installed as it normally should.
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexhtclegend:
Twice, then I tried to restore the backup three times. I shall try again tomorrow when I'm less busy and see what happens :)
[Thunderbolt General] DroidDont:
Can someone point me to wording in the contract which specifies that current customers with LTE-capable phones will be grandfathered when tiered pricing comes this summer?

I'm not looking for anecdotes of past grandfathering, since comments by the VZW CFO indicate that they'll be leveraging LTE pricing for a revenue boost. It's my opinion that there's no precedent for the move to tiered LTE pricing, and that current LTE contracts will revert to a tiered plan on subsequent contracts.

Asking because I keep seeing assertions that LTE grandfathering is a sure bet, when all signs say otherwise. I understand this is a touchy subject; having broached it before, people get quite emotional in their claims that they're entitled to existing prices until the end of time.
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
You won't find anything because there is none. No one here knows if/how Verizon will grandfather.
[Thunderbolt General] psufan5:
Guys... calm down. You signed a contract stating UNLIMITED DATA. They cant take it away from you without breaching the contract. In that case they will have to let you go (no ETF) or simply be sued.
[Thunderbolt General] davidbudd1:
what he said. you are under contact so they can not change the terms of the contract, otherwise they beach the contract.
[Thunderbolt General] macewank:
I'm curious what'll happen once our contracts start to expire and we go to buy new phones. If they take my unlimited data, I'm leaving
[Thunderbolt General] DroidDont:
Bolded the important part for the reading-impaired.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
thats what I would like to know
[Thunderbolt General] luniz7:
Don't change your plan at all and buy your phone at retail
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
even that's no guarantee. See the current line of smartphones. They still require a plan change to activate if you don't already have a smartphone plan regardless of how you purchase it.
[Thunderbolt General] psylink:
you should be good as long as you stay with a 4g phone when upgrading and extending your contract in the future, when going from 3g to 4g the system automatically adds/removes 4g/3g. If you're that worried, double check before signing your contract that it is still showing your unlimited 29.99, if it's not, make them get it fixed (unless something changes in the future they force you to lose the unlimited) but I see people on alltell calling plans all the time and outdated calling plans. same goes for outdated data plans.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
whats the price on retail smartphones?
[Thunderbolt General] Matthew_STL:
Thats why i got the phone as soon as possible to get the 4g data for the first 2 years with the phone.
[Thunderbolt General] Matthew_STL:
$700 for the TB, 800 for Iphone, 700 for samsung drioid -retail pricing
[Thunderbolt General] DroidDont:
This is the kind of ill-informed advice I'm talking about.

Again, read and listen to the communication from the money side of VZW. It's my informed opinion that unlimited pricing will no longer be an option at upgrade time when current contracts expire.

What happened in the past with acquisitions is completely unrelated to the current situation.
[Thunderbolt General] mpwt51:
Until your contract expires nothing will change. Now there is no precedence, but when you upgrade your phone, you usually can RENEW your contract, if you don't change anything, it SHOULD remain the same, but that is all subjective.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
Jesus! do Verizon have a trade in program?
[Thunderbolt General] keith.mcintyre26:
Working in the wireless industry for several years, the only way to guarantee unlimited LTE is to have a rep confirm you're grandfathered and demand that they put notes in your account stating this. The notes are where its at. A coworker's wife is a regional trainer for VZW and she has no idea how it'll play out.
[Thunderbolt General] kurttrail:
You just moved the goalposts. You started this thread saying that you think that Verizon would force tiered pricing on those of us who already have 4g unlimited contracts, and now you moved to when that contract ends.

When the contract ends, Verizon will either extend my unlimited 4g, or I'll move to a company that does offer unlimited 4g. I'll worry about that in about 22 months or so.
[Thunderbolt General] psufan5:
A plan change to 4G... which every phone in the next 6-7 years will have (possibly longer). You wont have to change any plan if you buy a phone at full retail. Just throw your SIM in the new phone.
[Thunderbolt General] psufan5:
4G LTE with a 2-5 GB cap seems ridiculous. Why bother building your infrastructure if people cant even enjoy it? Should almost be illegal how much they charge for data. People complain about gas prices, but what about the raping we take from data and text charges.

These people need to be regulated.
[Thunderbolt General] Trueabm:
The $29.99 unlimited data add-on feature is not contracted. Customers can add and drop that feature whenever they like without incurring a penalty. I'm fairly certain that VZW maintains the right to discontinue offering and/or change the pricing of their add-on features at-will. With that said, it's highly unlikely that VZW would change the pricing and not grandfather customers that already have the feature attached to their service.

Most likely, when VZW begins offering tiered LTE plans, the $29.99 unlimited data add-on will be discontinued but with existing customers grandfathered until they either change to a plan or device that isn't compatible with the feature or drop the feature.
[Thunderbolt General] mike.s:
So much talk, so little authoritative info. This is easy, the VZW Customer Agreement is clear:

- Verizon Wireless Customer Agreement

Oh, and the smartphone data package is part of the contract (as are other features). It's just that early termination only kicks in if you cancel a line of service, you can change the features anytime.

Finally, getting a note put on your account doesn't guarantee you anything:
[Thunderbolt General] karnovaran:
TB is $550 on the website. Can anyone confirm the price in-store? Is it the same or $700? I know it's $700 at Best Buy, but I can't figure out what it is at a Verizon store.
[Thunderbolt General] 1234567188:
so far all 4g phones are 569
[Thunderbolt General] crookshanks:
I bought mine at a Verizon store in March for $599 plus tax. I would imagine $550 is about right for full retail now.
[Thunderbolt General] DroidDont:
Highlighting the wording in my original post isn't moving the goalpost; it's clarifying where the goalpost is.

My point is this: All those with definitive responses about how "grandfathering" will relate to tiered LTE pricing should probably have an attorney help them review their contract with VZW.
[Thunderbolt General] Turb0wned:
Well no one knows for sure but this is what I did to at-least make it more possible to keep my 4G unlimited... I sold my iphone and bought a TB off someone on craigslist. Pretty much i'm waiting and hoping the new iphone will have 4G. This way I SHOULD be grandfathered in and will buy phones at full retail or off the streets from now on.
[Thunderbolt General] luniz7:
Well the only 4g phones are smartphones so that makes no sense. Therefore you will have a smartphone plan and unlimited 4g. You can keep the unlimited 4g just like I described. It doesn't cost you to put a different phone on your same line, at least I've never had to pay to.
[Thunderbolt General] KidJoe:
Despite the verbiage in the contracts, etc.. in the past, if the plan or feature you had was discontinued while you were under contract, VZW didn't force you to switch.

Example: Americas Choice plans and Vcast Vpack feature vs NationWide plans and feature phone data plans...

When your contract ends, and you go "month to month", again they didn't force you to change, unless YOU made changes...

However, if/when you purchase a new phone at subsidized pricing by signing/renewing your contract, they can/will force you onto the NEW/Current plans and features if the plan/feature you had isn't available at that time.

Here's hoping VZW keeps that trend. But it would mean buying the next phone or so at FULL RETAIL instead.

However, VZW could also classify "new phones" as not compatible... like they did with some of the "newer" feature phones (like the LG Voyager) and nationwide plans...
[Thunderbolt General] sml7285:
So does that mean that unlimited 4g is guarenteed until the next contract?
[Thunderbolt General] KidJoe:
I wouldn't say guaranteed, but I would say very likely you'll keep it if you already have it when they roll out tiered data plans.. so long as you make no changes...
[Thunderbolt General] sml7285:
What about the next contract? Would the unlimited carry over or would I have to stay on a month to month in order to keep the status quo?
[Thunderbolt General] eraursls1984:
This is not true, so far they haven't been forcing people into new plans when they upgrade even if their old plan is way out of date. I know people who have upgraded several times, even up to a smart phone and still have their old plan. However this is data and its possible that they change the way they currently let people keep old plans on new contracts, I wouldn't be surprised the way they have been changing lately is not at all in favor of their customers, no more NE2, bye bye one year contracts, hello higher prices.
[Thunderbolt General] redtechjunky:
It works like this with Verizon, if you have something already, they won't force you from it once they stop offering the specific plan, as long as you don't change your plan, or drop to a non 4g device, then you'll keep your plan as is, if Verizon does force you to change something on your plan, you have a time frame to cancel your contract (usually 30 days), that's why they use the word grandfathered internally throughout the company, ex long term employee, would still be there but a career change was needed, ill back my words with my own $$$$$ that's how confident I am, really that's the only reason I bought my thunderbolt, I was waiting for the Revolution!

Sent from the Swag ThunderBolt ADR6400L with some GingerLove (SuperStable Gingeritis VIII, Sense 3.0 addons = Winning) using XDA Premium App
[Thunderbolt General] rajuabju:
And this is basically the correct answer.

Verizon can change the plans at any time. If they do, you have the right to cancel with no ETF; and thats the only recourse you have.

it's not going to matter. I have no doubt ATT/Tmobile will not be far behind on tier pricing, and that leaves Sprint the only alternative, and I'm not going there.
[Thunderbolt General] jj3699:
This aligns with my thoughts
[Thunderbolt General] dajogejr:
You can thank people that abuse the system by running up 100's of GB of data using their phone as a hotspot/Internet pass through for bit torrent, etc.

Nothing wrong with streaming movies, videos...etc., but it's the elite 5% of abusers that ruin things for the other 95% of us who use it within reason.
[Thunderbolt General] KidJoe:
With the switch between Americas Choice II and NationWide.. if you purchased a new phone... Yes they DID force you to change plans to Nationwide.

This started around the time of the LG Voyager. VZW claimed the Voyager, with its basic HTML browser (as opposed to the previous phones which had WAP), wasn't compatible with their Americas Choice plans, and the only way to get a Voyager was to get on a nationwide plan and pay per KB for data (or get the Vcast Vpack to cover "unlimited" data for the handset).

Since then, VZW hasn't changed their plans. Still "NationWide" but they have changed number of minutes offered in their family share plans.

My fiance's grandfather & his wife finally upgraded their Moto E815 and LG Flip phone which were on ACII. He was forced to switch to a Nationwide plan, since his ACII plan was no longer offered, and because the phone he selected was classified as a "multimedia phone" he was FORCED to pick a NEW data plan. The Vcast Vpack wasn't able to be carried over.

Again, if the "unlimited" data feature isn't available when upgrading your phone and signing a new contract, they will likely have something in place saying the new phone isn't compatible with the old feature... While it might not technically be true, it might just be a block on VZW's system preventing you from keeping the unlimited feature.

PS: If you try to purchase a new line of service with a Droid X, the data plan is called "Unlimited Email & Web for Smartphones (personal email)"... Do the same with the TB.. and the data plan is called the same thing. I think if VZW discontinues this data feature, it will be hard for them to claim its not compatible with FUTURE Smartphones.. So maybe VZW will rebrand their calling plans again, and claim this "unlimited" feature isn't compatible with the newly branded calling plans?
[Thunderbolt General] htcthundr:
these dirty VZ rep trolls just like to start fire. Dont feed them please. They are already FAT

just like that fraud thread. one dumbass after another.

BLIND LEADING THE BLIND
[Thunderbolt General] funkybside:
I'd bet money you will have to use the new teired plans once you renew a contract, which you could avoid by purchasing a phone at retail cost.

Leaving to a different carrier is unlikely to do much for ya, If AT&T, T-Mo, VZW all have already announced or implemented moves to teired data, do you really think Sprint will not follow suit sometime before your TB contract is up?

On the bright side, teired data will pave the way for family data so if you have 3 or more phones that use data on your plan, you stand to pay less overall (albeit with caps).
[Thunderbolt General] herooftimeloz:
I don't think we have unlimited data contracts. We have contracts for the voice plan. Data is simply an extra feature that we add to our plan. It can be added/removed at anytime.

Consider this...suppose you upgraded to a Thunderbolt from a non-smartphone, renewing your plan for another 2 years. Suppose 4 months after renewing, you realize you don't want the Thunderbolt (for whatever reason). You are free to go back to your old phone. By doing this, you'll have no use for data and will be free to remove it from your plan without paying any fee.

Long story short, I don't think Verizon has any obligation to grandfather us in. That's not to say they won't grandfather us in...they could do so for goodwill.
[Thunderbolt General] worwig:
Call Verizon and try to drop the data plan on this phone.

Can't be done.
[Thunderbolt General] herooftimeloz:
right, but that's only because of the phone you're using
[Thunderbolt General] jz9833:
Verizon can not change your current contact if they wanted to, its as signed contract.

If you agree to a new contract you agree to the terms under that contact. Your unlimited data will be forced to a tiered plan if you sign a contract with those terms. You can not expect rules of a previous agreement to apply to another. ;)

Simple solution, buy a phone without getting a new contract. Do not buy it at retail price from best buy or radio shack as they usually sell there phones for 700 :eek: off contract, however carriers sell them for 500-550. Sounds like an easy decision to me. :cool:
[Thunderbolt General] jday:
I "BELIEVE" (so you can have a different opinion) that if you got the tbolt at a discounted price from VZW because you signed a 2-year contract, even if you decide to go back to an old non-smartphone, you will still be required to keep and pay for the data package. The reason I think that is because one of the main reasons they give you a discounted price on the phone is that they know they will be getting the $29.99/month data fee from you for that 2 years.
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
The data price isn't contracted. It goes with the phone. If you switch to a dumbphone, the data plan will drop off. This is why some 3rd party retailers like Wirefly, etc have their own terms where you can drop in the first 6 months or you'll get charged with their own ETF. Verizon doesn't care because in order to have it active on their network, that person must have the data plan unless they just want to use it as an expensive PDA.
[Thunderbolt General] l7777:
Coming from AT&T I've already experienced the forced switch from "unlimited" to a tiered plan, I'm going to say that VZW can and will force people to new data plans if they want to. I've had smartphones for years and simply swapped sims from one to the next buying out of contract. It allowed me to keep a $20 unlimited data and 200 message plan on my line until the past year. They finally caught up to me and switched my plan three months after I got the phone. After talking with several CS reps and getting the same party line of "That plan isn't compatible with your phone" I gave in and accepted their pittance of a one time credit.

As others have said, if you want to leave VZW because of the tier, then don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. You won't have anywhere to go that will allow unlimited data except maybe Sprint. Sprint's network isn't going to be anywhere near the level of VZW's though. Data coverage was my primary reason for leaving AT&T. Their 3G service was nice when available, but availability was/is piss poor outside major cities. Their current "4g" coverage isn't any better because it's just an upgrade of their 3G towers. Oh but they will have LTE covering a whopping 15 cities by the end of 2011. :p

These threads are also pretty useless as no one knows definitively what VZW will do until they do it. You can scream all you want that you have a contract but if VZW wants to change it, they will. The only thing you can do is leave or accept it.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
You are right nobody knows but I will tell u one thing I will be gone if they change my plan
[Thunderbolt General] mike.s:
That's true, but it's not a meaningful statement. The contract says they can change the price at any time. If they do so during the contract term, you can cancel without paying an ETF. But, there's nothing preventing them from changing the price of service or features at any time.
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
That still gets into proving it's an "adverse effect". They're more likely to just try to give you a 10% discount or something.
[Thunderbolt General] DNak206:
I'm a MS consultant and took advantage of a promo years back for a $20 all-you-can-eat-UNLIMITED data package and had it since getting my TB. The impact I experienced was I lost "unlimited messaging" which originally came with the plan. After SEVERAL trips into the store and talking to managers, I kept my unlimited data (and exchange since they will charge more for corp.email), but lost my texts and messages. I basically pay $10/mo now for like 500 texts but it's all good, I don't text like I used to.

As for the grandfathering, only time will tell. We all like to think we know what will happen and from experience I've found our own personal ability to negotiate/escalate/get-the-next-person-on-the-phone to give me what I want holds more weight than the contracts.

Comcast only offers the triple play for new customers but I've been calling in and getting the promo renewed every 3-6 months since I been with them which is almost 5 years. The power is in your ability to work the system more often than not.
[Thunderbolt General] bucklyv:
You will not find said language... sorry.

Running CM7 AOSP - ThunderBolt using XDA Premium App
[Thunderbolt General] kwiggington:
You and me both
[Thunderbolt General] udo88udo:
i think we should just wait and see i still havent heard anything from the verizon store next to my starbucks.