yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
I think bp328i mentioned that because he is mad at me that I disagree about something. :D

I mean, didn't we already establish that the radio had to have done this, if indeed the leak is to blame at all?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mrperf3ct:
It's a complete insurance so if I brick it. Then I lost it wink wink.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] LTE:
Sorry my bad, ~26MB guess email won't work but I can post it someplace SORRY!

Don't know where I got the 6MB from guess I truncated it's size haha...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] azturbomini:
LMFAO!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Let me clear this up a bit. While yes, overclocking can kill a CPU, chances are its going to be far too unstable to run, well before that. So thats a mark against the kernel being the cause. Next, we have plenty of Froyo users overclocking to stupidly high levels like 1.92ghz, without this issue. Next mark against it being kernel related. Lastly, in clockwork, or any recovery mode, you are using a different kernel, that is not overclocked. Strike three, kernel, you are out!

Not trying to sound like a jerk, if I did. I just don't believe the kernel is an issue at hand.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] whewstoosae:
Have you flashed said radio? And where did it come from?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bp328i:
Not mad at you at all, I think you do some great work on the Thunderbolt, can't say for other phones as I have never used any of your other work.

I was getting back on topic and posted what rom I was running at the time my phone went to the great beyond.

In fact when I do get my thunderbolt back I will run your roms again.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mrperf3ct:
Omg and this is the guy we just with importent development to the thunderbolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Kid_Cudi:
Gotta love people arguing with people who actually develop for this phone.

I hope your phone bricks and Verizon denies your insurance our with their new return policy, charge you full price.

Thunderbolt «» das BAMF Remix
[Thunderbolt Android Development] libraryclg:
You know guns don't kill people, stupid MF'ers with guns kill people!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Thats not very nice.

they are acting as expected. Take away a lollipop from a three year old and see if you get the same reaction.

Gingerbread is a lot of fun. Jcase just ripped the proverbial lollipop away. The big meanie.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Corey@rabbit:
I kill people....

true story hit a dude walking across a dark road. he had a .28 BAC :eek:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] oxidant11:
So how many people have had it brick...and anyone using gingeritis Rom have it brick because I have had the Rom for about two weeks now and no problems, I get that it will just happen but it seems like it is narrowing down to certain people with certain roms/kernels/radio, either way ill stay on gingeritis(I really want to say ginger-tits) if it bricks ill just get a warranty replacement.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidTh3ory:
I'm not going anywhere. Lol.

If the **** I have done with this thing hasn't bricked it yet, I don't know what will. :)

Thanks for the heads up!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] zeeter82:
Guess this means I'll wait even longer before trying GB. Just grabbed BAMF remix this morning, just never flashed it. Thanx for the info jcase.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] want a droid:
Can this be confirmed? If yes then can't we just hang around with the froyo ruu file on sd in case we're set in boot loop.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] swimminsurfer256:
+1 to that!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
*Looks around for a noose hanging down with his name written on it*

I have a gun. Stay back, fools!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
lulz got too many reports man, got more today
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrbracht:
for some reason i have a feeling you guys are messing with us once again... hmmmm. oh well, going back to froyo.. damnit..
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BennyJr:
Oh crap...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Crimton:
So flashing froyo radio then a froyo backup is ok? You suggested and ruu...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
No, his issue had to be entirely different.

People are confusing a reboot related to the rom. The one in my post is NOT rom related, but related to other firmware.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MrCapcom:
omg i just read this and went to do it and my phone started doing it :-(

(The rebooting that is)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] want a droid:
Question: What is your status? Are you risking it and staying on GB or did you revert?

If you could, do you think you could put a percentage on the likeliness of the bootloop happening to any of us?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
No. We have been tracking it for the last week. The number started ramping up. So while it could be something else, the numbers of people it is happening to, and all are on GB...

Software alone cannot do this. Thats all the info I have.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
I wouldn't worry, unless it ALSO reboots in recovery and gives an error message.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] howarmat:
would like to know the answer to this too. i was going to load a froyo radio and then nandriod back to froyo rom if i can
[Thunderbolt Android Development] suzook:
Nope. I had an endless reboot. Even when I got into bootloader, it would reboot. But when I put the stock ruu ...as pg05.Img...it automatically flashed that...then my reboot was gone. Happened to me twice.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrbracht:
good enough, thank you sir
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dvation191:
Can I have some clarification on reverting to froyo?

To upgrade to gingerbread we had to flash the radio then the rest of the rom.

If I now flash PG05IMG_MR1_upgrade.zip (md5sum : 7960c7977c25b2c8759605be264843ea), is this restoring my radio or is this putting me back to unrooted froyo or both?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidTh3ory:
Lmao, Hardcore here at XDA. Gingerbread on one side of the scale/Full out brick on the other. Ummm, brick the MFKR. Lol

I love it.

You can't take a mans GingerBread away.

:)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] patdroid1:
So can we still get into bootloader and flash a pg05img if this happens???
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Been there, done that. I was a head on collision at 60mph though...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JBO1018:
I never said anything about doing something on purpose . It is not even close to burning your house down for insurance money. How is accidently bricking your phone any different than accidently dropping it in your beer. Regardless it's not like you get paid out some big cash sum, you get a refurbed replacement phone.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Memnoch73:
Woah man this similar thing happened to me today. Right after I start reading this thread. Phone is off... Power button does nothing. Plug it in. Nothing. Did battery pull and finally it started up. And the battery still said it had 88% charge. Man my hands were shaking. Couldn't nandroid back to Remix 1.6.3 fast enough...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bagsofcole:
first of all,

Thank you devs for the heads up. since i take your advice and root and flash and abuse my phone for fun, I willalso take your advice to secure my baby too!

All i need to know is this:

Does it matter if I use the RUU in the op or can i use hboot and recovery?

OB1, your my only hope.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] LTE:
Yes, Been running for 64 hours with no issues at all...

Got from a dev (Liquid) it's not the one that's on his site now, but it does work..
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
I've actually never seen ginger-tits... *goes off to google* WHOA.

Anyway,

You can't go by which rom for a simple reasoning that there is nothing in the software that can really do low level damage that we are seeing, and not all roms are going to be equal in popularity.

While Rom A may be the bestestest rom ever, and has, say...40% of a community using it, and Rom B has only 15%, yet is a horrible piece of software, people are going to point fingers at Rom A just because there will be more numbers of failures by default.

I'm not using real examples there, and that was entirely made up. Just saying, you cannot judge by that either.

You can't judge by kernel either, because unless you aren't caring about your camera, you are using Imoseyon's kernels.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bagsofcole:
It's more like building an addition to your house without a permit (which is legal in some states) and you hired a buddy that you can trust but the batch of 2x4's you got from the shady lumbar yard ended up being rotten.

true story
[Thunderbolt Android Development] piihb:
I am sad... 2 days of of BAMF 2.0beta5 & 1 day of the REMIX 2.0beta5. I sooooooo do not want to go back!

/me sulks of into corner, flash froyo cdma/lte radio and restore. =(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tx3kgtman:
devs cant be argued with. Its against the android development law. :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] youneek:
My wifes Droid Incredible had the same type of bootloop issue awhile ago. It was because the device ran totally out of memory somewhere. Every once in awhile while during it's infinite reboot, I could reach it with adb for a moment so I just kept trying over and over again and finally I got it to go into recovery. We wiped everything and installed a clean rom and all the problems went away. Not sure if it's the same issue or if there's a way to check?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] oxidant11:
Haha to the ginger tits thing all I have to say is Christina Hendricks...

Crazy this is happening...owell like I said warranty replacement if it bricks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] joshnichols189:
It's different thought because this issue has reboots even while in recovery and no amount of flashing can fix it :/
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Its not the same issue. Namely, because this one reboots you, even in recovery.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Well, it looks like folks are jumping to conclusions in Chingy's thread...

They are now looking at Gingerjane or BAMF as the cause...

So frustrating, because folks just don't understand, and are looking for a scapegoat.

Stop looking at roms. If its one, its all. If its not, its none.

I still say radio.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ctinsley:
I had this endless bootloop last night. After getting into cw mod I formated system, cache, data, & dalvic and reinstalled bamf 2.0.5 and my phone stablilized again. Now my bootlooping was not random it only happened when I replaced the GoogleServicesFramework.apk with another one I got from cm7 as I was attempting to get Google talk video working. I have a feeling its not the leak but the Google talk video tweeks causing the issue because with out the Rom is extremely stable.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bobtheelf:
Not anymore. You walk in with your old phone, it gets sent out. If a refurb is available that'll be shipped back. If not, your phone will be repaired instead. If it can't be repaired, *then* you can walk out with a new phone.

If you've found a store that will simply swap out a phone for you, they're not following procedure.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bp328i:
I tried adb for almost an hour. It would not respond even once. I got the phone into recovery 10+ times, but it would reboot in within 5 seconds. This is the first Android phone I have ever seen reboot in recovery and I have had my fair share of bootloops.

It was almost like the power was going out.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] astang99:
I was using chingys gingeritis, didnt have the bootloop issues, but just to be safe I went back to das bamf 1.6.3. While I was using gingeritis, I LOVED IT, im sad to see it go, oh well
[Thunderbolt Android Development] trikotret:
next we gonna hear that BAMF works for the CIA. They are monitoring us :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] KDKobes:
THANKS FOR THE INFO....Interesting how some have issues and some dont, but I am not f'ing up my phone either...really liked "ginger" though, she has been treating me rather well.:D

For what its worth though after removing "Dock Mode" from my phone and making sure it WASN'T running "Fast Boot" on startup seemed to fix all my issues at had at the start.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Hellzya:
Blah............pointless arguement sorry.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
It wasn't really directed at you. Others have been saying the same thing. One voice becomes two, two becomes three, and before you know it, Jcase and I are being strung up and lynched.

FWIW, I have a gun. I will take as many as I can with me before I die. :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MechaMorph:
Man...I never thought I would miss Sense but Sense 3.0...dammit all! 911sniper we need a new leak!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mustang02:
Only one? I have one in each room of my house.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bobtheelf:
You said: "It doesn't matter if I brick it flashing or throw it off the empire state building, thats why you pay a free every month plus a $100 deductible."

My point was there are times when insurance will not cover you. If one of the terms of coverage is that you have not modified certain software on the phone, you could still be SOL. Not saying it's right or wrong, just that that's the way it is.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kazuma5401:
ALRIGHT ALREADY ALRIGHT ALREADY, quit ur *****in folks!

Take there advise or leave it!!!

Don't mater what your insurance is here, or how u plan on striking back at "The man" if ur phone bricks. I think everyone knows now who's gonna cash in a brick an who wants to play it safe.

You don't wanna re flash fine. Don't. Quit stamping your point and maxing this thread out.

Wanna go back to 1.6.3? Go be my guest!

Thank your devs for a good time and stfu.

Can we please have some actual r&d commentary now?

All I want to know is if it is safe to re flash the radio I used for 1.6.3 in hboot since I still have it on my SD then restore my back up.

It's one question I have seen asked five times with out answer in this ever growing ***** fest!

And yes I posted this three times. I feel like I'm in a room of arguing children and someone needs to bring the hammer down. Let's help solve it and move foward people!

HTC thunderbolt

Das bamf 2.0-5 ginger
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
I figure extra clips are more important because when you are backed in a corner, it doesn't matter how many guns you have scattered throughout the house :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gifferjesus:
Gotta be prepared for those zombie devs, they just jump out of nowhere.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Memnoch73:
I restored my backup in recovery then used adb to reboot into bootloader and changed to my Froyo radio. Remixing 1.6.3 like a champ now
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kazuma5401:
Hey thanks memnock! Unfortunatly I'm at work. No adb here. But plenty of time to flash.

HTC thunderbolt

Das bamf 1.6.1
[Thunderbolt Android Development] trikotret:
heya adry, how about some 1.7 love :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 92slammer:
yes thats what i did....i flashed my 1.6.3 backup....rebooted into hboot then flashed the radio...been working fine all night...oh and everyone does need to stop *****ing.....take the advice or dont....i for one did, these devs know alot more than i do...once they say something is safe then i will do it....once again thanks to all the DEVs on this forum!!!:D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
My PC is down. Unless you want to send me a new motherboard :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kazuma5401:
Hey thanks a lot guys. Helpful answers. Thanks devs for the work!

Here's a good question. Since this new development, has anyone that reverted seen the G B problem?

HTC thunderbolt

Das bamf 1.6.3
[Thunderbolt Android Development] trikotret:
that sucks :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] erishasnobattery:
I mentioned this about 40 pages of *****ing, name-calling, and finger-pointing ago, but if this happens to anyone in the St. Louis area, PM me and we'll try to work out a way to get the phone and possibly do some debugging.

I have extra devices so you won't be without a phone.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mkilla:
Could it be related to overclocking to 1.4 ghz ?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] woodsptw:
Quick - who has a PC they can ship to A
[Thunderbolt Android Development] KDKobes:
Has anyone besides me removed Dock Mode from the ROM or stopped it from running Fast Boot at startup???
[Thunderbolt Android Development] trikotret:
he just needs a motherboard.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kazuma5401:
Adren said something earlier between tackles it was roughly ruled out.

HTC thunderbolt

Das bamf 1.6.1
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BennyJr:
Laptop not up to the task? Idk if u know blackdroid but he use to compile on his old lappy...took forever but it worked
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gruiz1122:
Keep up the good work....

I for one am grateful to Jcase for this warning. I am not at all pissed that I had to reflash my bolt with stock radio and froyo. I'm just glad that I didn't brick it by flashing some "test" software that has inherent bugs and risks that come along with it.

Thank you again devs! Please keep up the good work and putting in your hard earned time (and money in some cases) to give us these bad ass roms/kernels/themes/etc for us to play with.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Mine overheats. :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Kid_Cudi:
What kind do you need? Unlike the ungrateful pieces of **** pointing their fingers at you, I respect your work and a motherboard can be delivered.

On a side note, since bamf is to "blame", you should close development and grant invites to those who appreciate your work. Everyone else can go **** themselves.

Thunderbolt «» das BAMF Remix
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mustang02:
18 round magazine. If I can't kill a zombie dev in 18 rounds, I shouldn't have another magazine. Of course I could grab the shotty under the couch and get my headshot streak on.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BurnOne77:
ROFL @ post 425

What socket you on adrynalyne?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kazuma5401:
Hey adrynilyne, I'm assuming u posted the original in the OP to expidite the process of helping us out right?

And in the reports you gathered I'm assuming the people who switched off the GB are still running right?

HTC thunderbolt

Das bamf 1.6.3
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Some POS HP OEM junk. No worries. I'll get a rom out. I just need to go buy an external enclosure so that I can pull my data from my drives.

The SATA controller died.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] trikotret:
Ill chip in too :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kazuma5401:
Lol +1

HTC thunderbolt

Das bamf 1.6.3
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
AM3, I believe.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tx3kgtman:
All I have is one question. How could you release a crazy awesome build like BAMF Remix 2.0 and a warning to not install it in the same day lol. Thats all
[Thunderbolt Android Development] johnkc1975:
Flashed my 1.6.3 backup immediately and the only thing I miss from GB is the lock screen...it might be Froyo, but it runs like a Lamborghini with a hybrid engine. And I definitely missed landscape Rosie...see ya on 1.7!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 98ramair:
Are there any stats on how long (days/hours) folks have been running the leak before the bootloops happened? I ask because these are based off of test builds. Could the test build have a line of code that says "after x amount of time the build expires "? And expiration in this case would be a bootloop?

These test leaks have to be going out to a control group of users who are required to load a new build every so often.

Just a thought. Maybe I am just drinking too much :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] patdroid1:
i think someone inside team bamf is trying to sabotage adrynalyne...first his rom bricks all of our phones and now his computer dies...i'm just a seyon...oops i mean saying lol ;-) ;-)

or maybe it's just the rapture...oh well thanks jcase for the heads up...back to 1.6.3!!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dopediculous:
Well if anyone was gonna smash my kernel comment to the ground, glad it was you, but that's NOT going to stop me from flashing my skin flute at the elderly as their walking into cracker barrel! :0)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] KDKobes:
Thats a very bold statement son...dont out names like that...the kernel's have been discussed. AGAIN I ASK HAS ANYONE BESIDES ME REMOVED DOCK MODE AND FAST BOOT????
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Kid_Cudi:
He was joking ffs.

Thunderbolt «» das BAMF Remix
[Thunderbolt Android Development] buzzdroidx:
hahahahahahha hehehe thats just recoculous. On a more sober note, I flashed to gingeritis last night, woke up unplugged my phone which was on and charged hopped in my car and it shut off for like 10 minutes! I tried restarting it, battery pull and nothing. then magically it rebooted and has been normal all day. Sounds like there is alot of risk out there with this phone and some radio builds Thankyou for informing us
[Thunderbolt Android Development] corenojoe:
Good lookin out jcase, reverted back to froyo.

To everyone who's saying "I'll risk it and if I brick I'll make an insurance claim". I'm not one of the ppl who gives a crap about insurance fraud (I figure the whole concept is a way for them to screw you over if u want to be able to replace your phone for less than 500 bucks). What I will say is about 3hrs ago I was one of you, I was like "I'll just wait and see" and then, all of the sudden, it hit me. Isn't it going to be waaaay more of a pain in the ass if you gotta make a claim and pay 100 bucks for a replacement (which will be a refurb) and wait 2 days and reroot all instead of just rocking a froyo ROM that, up until a week ago, you probably thought was badass and perfectly satisfying?

Just thought I'd share my thought process on how I ultimately decided to heed the Devs (who if u didn't already know are very smart ppl) word on this.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] patdroid1:
thank you...at least someone got the joke
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rafaelvelasquez2:
Man screw going through that hour long root process again. I just flashed newest FROYO radio on my TB, then ran the restore in CWR of my BAMF 1.6.3......easy peasy, lemon squeezy....Everything looks back to normal. Gonna miss Netflix though :'(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Zomb!e:
I disabled fast boot. I never removed dock mode though. Never even opened the app.

Sent from Zeus' Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mrperf3ct:
My insurance is not with Verizon its with walmart the store I got it from. And if I loose it they will replace it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dstu03:
Froyo roms aren't that bad people.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Zarboz:
i lied ignore my last post
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dstu03:
PERFECT STORM 1.4 is by far the best rom..Its not worth the risk of rocking GB when that rom is so well built I completely agree with you
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
I love some of the froyo roms out there. I am going to take the risk and stay on gingerbread but honesty, thank you JCase for putting this out there and doing all you guys can to prevent people from breaking their phones.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ibsk8:
Every time I've ever had a problem with a device through best buy on warranty I walk out with a new device in box. I've got plenty of receipts to show if interested.

Maybe it different with cell phones......

Back on topic:

The proof you want is your phone being bricked.

Respect the warning, revert and wait it out.

sent from a sweet paper weight.