yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
I've got 200mb of free ram right now :) never had that on a sense 2.1/3.0 rom before.

As for the footprint, I assume you mean free space in /data and I am looking into that right now. I usually have 100-130 apps on my phone, and I'm not a big fan of darktremor's a2sd so I am going to be working on it for sure.
[EVO 4G Android Development] myn:
My suggestion would be to make this a flashable mod instead of a ROM, that way it can be applicable to multiple ROMS and as they evolve you don't have to re-factor everything in again.

If you need help with anything join #Team-Synergy on irc.freenode.net :)

There are more than a handful of great devs including myself that would love to help you out.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] joehunni:
X2 for anything odex lol, they just run better for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jm5503:
Great idea myn .....
[EVO 4G Android Development] 7tehzombi:
This, is an idea that I'm in love with. Perhaps something like what Omegasun18 did here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=779797

Maybe even get a thread going for those who like to manage their own files with a list of known .apk files that are safe to remove from the 2.1+3.0 ROMs like this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=769528
[EVO 4G Android Development] alaman68:
been waiting for something like this for a while. Always used Calk's remove sense because the sense cameras were still there.

subscribed and waiting patiently for another 3 minutes:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] CCallahan:
Good idea.

If only HDMI out worked on these type of roms I could use them as my daily. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] locoboi187:
MikG please!
[EVO 4G Android Development] interloper:
I love the recruiting thread above Myn. It would he rad to see allbthe oars rowing the same boat. I haven't flashed this rom but I did others, such as warm and synergy, but I'm a battery life fan so I go for Tiamat kernels etc. I know the day is coming when dev will move on for the Evo4G so I am saving all the roms and mods I can find. Its great how Sky has listened to and tried to accommodate all requests on this thread. I might try it...Thanks Sky!
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
I might make a zip, but it is very risky using it on other roms. Not all of the roms have the same apk's that need removed. I have spent a lot of time trial and error removing apk's from just this one rom to figure it all out.

I could make a slimmed down version I guess that would remove most of them from all sense roms. Maybe I will do that.

I am up to 67 apk's that I removed from this rom..... I doubt all of the stuff I removed would end up not effecting some roms negatively LOL.

But I will post up a mikg version here in a couple minutes if all goes well. And then I will try nremoving the same apk's from other roms and if all goes well I will make a zip for everyone to use on whatever sense rom they want.

Kinda scary though as some of the roms are sense 2.1 + 3.0, some are sense 3.0, some are straight 2.0 and 2.1. I don't know how it is going to turn out so I'm not just going to flop something out there that is going to bootloop everyone's roms and get called a retarded SOB over it haha. Anyways, I am uploading beta4 now of the synergy and am currently downloading mikg to implement it on there as well. Things for ya very soon everyone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
yes indeed

oh wait, i can't test 4g, someone let me know.

Also, with the new beta4 that i just uploaded, let me know if anything is farked, that way i can figure out what I did before I branch this out to 20 different roms or make a zip for everyone to explode their phones with hehe
[EVO 4G Android Development] wickerstick:
Thanks!!!

seriously thanks i dislike rosie esp in 2.1+ roms and the sense 3 rosie is super fat glitchy, rotation has yet to be enabled, not customizable enough, Iv'e been using ADW EX since it came out. so smooth so light, so many customizations, only grip is the transition to app drawer is not as pretty as stock w/ fade to black, very minor, i just downloaded give me like a couple hours to tinker and ill come back with more feedback!

lets keep this stuff going! clean, optimized, stripped of slow crap, keep the 2.1+3.0 and remove all the junk and bloat! don't theme.
[EVO 4G Android Development] noirelion:
Great idea...the bloat in regular synergy -too much for me

I like this idea and the reasons behind it... cam gps and really integrated apps. So I'm downloading it and thanks to the Dev (you really are a dev - my son- when you cooking roms n ****!)....

So thanks to the Dev... (its dloading as I speak...)

And my regular rom is the GingeraleV4....it is pretty smooth, stable..-tried v.5 had me random rebooting....but I hadnt tried the older ginger ale roms I'll see if I can find V2.... Regular Synergy just wouldnt do right on my 0003hardware Evo- but worked like a krispee creme donut on my daughters 0004hardware Evo...

I cant wait to try this.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
Sweet, seeing some downloads. Make sure to give feed back so I know what you guys want fixed or whatever.

Mik G 2.15 odex is now up on my server, link in original post now! Wootburgers. Odex is great if you aren't wanting to theme.
[EVO 4G Android Development] joehunni:
Looking forward to trying the MikG version out, and would really like to see a version just based off of the newest 2.24 stock odex ROM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
Next up will be fresh. or something as close to stock as possible. Something that keeps it stock but with necessities like the power menu and tether hack. So for the people that were wanting the stock 4.24 this will be perfect for you. It is going to take some time though because it isn't the same as the two I just did. They were mixes of 2.1 and 3.0, shift and EVO, blah and blah, and fresh or whichever I find that is closest to OTA but with the necessities is going to be very different.

Soon though, possibly even tonight depending on when the benadryl I just gave my kids kicks in lolol.

from xda on my phone biznatch.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
A supped up stock ROm would be fantastic. Better compatibility and probabyl smoother. lol. Although the sense 3.0 lockscreen is probably the only feature is miss <.< ;}
[EVO 4G Android Development] ItsDon:
Ah, just when you put up MikG2.1 Mik puts out 2.2 :eek:

Gonna give 2.15 a whirl anyway. Might you be doing his 2.2 version? I am a BIG odex rom fan :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Im on 2.15. 2.2 doesnt have much over it but try 2.2 anyways its the newer os. of it
[EVO 4G Android Development] joehunni:
My thing is this... I have to keep up to date with ROMs and obviously want as few bugs as possible. I only suggest the stock release as even bone stock, it seems to be the quickest ROM to my phone. As someone else just said, Mik's ROMs do get updated quite often and I like keeping up to date.
[EVO 4G Android Development] joehunni:
My thing is this... I have to keep up to date with ROMs and obviously want as few bugs as possible. I also don't really care for the Sense 3.0 lockscreen, I do find it a little laggier to use than the natural downswipe motion of the Sense 1.0 lockscreen. I only suggest the stock release as even bone stock, it seems to be the quickest ROM to my phone. As someone else just said, Mik's ROMs do get updated quite often and I like keeping up to date.
[EVO 4G Android Development] clshores:
Does this have the same 720p video recording problems that MikG 2.1 and 2.2 has?
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
I thought he fixed that....
[EVO 4G Android Development] lawsonmh15:
You're dev'ing skylar. Need a mirror?
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
I'm not really deving, just helping people lose some sense lol. And I have unlimited bandwidth and space. Until my host gets pissed I won't need a mirror, I do appreciate it though. I have done like 600gb in transfers in the past two weeks, so we will see how "unlimited" it really is if they try to get me to pay more than 8 bucks a month haha. I can't afford the 8 bucks as it is, so if they do, i will be sure to PM you and take full advantage of ya :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] scottspa74:
Skydeaner, please Dont give much credit to the whole 'keep it stock' crowd. If people want stock, DrMcinyasha and others have stock roms available. (Honestly if people want stock, why the hell are they in xda?!) .

Anyhow, I love the blue theming you have done before. If you can keep to that, thatd be stellar.

Not sure i even agree with Myns post. Making a zip to remove sense on all the current (and future) variables seems a foolhardy endeavor. If you just find a good base (as you did with synergy) and make blue tweaks, and essentials like tether, i really think thats an awesome way to go. And damn, if you could incorporate vanessaems honeycomb batt mod (in blue) to synergy, thatd be worth millions ;)

Thanks for all your work.

(Stock? Odex?, just run an ruu....youll be fine ;) )
[EVO 4G Android Development] clshores:
The OP on his 2.2 says it might not be fixable.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaanadie:
MikG-v2.2 is out

Hello,

MikG-v2.2 is out, can you remove bloatware in this rom?

I flashed it yesterday and never seen something so perfect.

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] joehunni:
You're telling one dev who's requests are worth a damn and calling another dev "foolhardy"? You need to relax, your single opinion isn't really worth enough to warrant such statements.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
Everyone relax lol. I'm trying to make a zip. I have asked for the help of Myn, i am sure he knows more about edify scripting than I do but hasn't responded. I keep failing hard at trying to make it, it should be so simple. Anyone that is good with edify please pm me and we will figure out a way to chat. gchat or something

I am about done with mikg 2.2 zipping it up right now and getting ready to test it before uploading.

downloading fresh to slim it down.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rawdikrik:
Might want to talk to Cauklin(sic) for help... he created the first "REmove sense Zip".

There has to be a way to eit the script to so that i puts in all the settings that you like on the lockscreen and everything.

IVe played around with his original script and its not that hard to work with, just kind of a pain to dig into the files and find all the small settings nad what not.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
Mikg 2.2 is up
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
Isn't his original script the old kind of scripting and not edify? If it is edify, I will just kang it and give him credit LOL.
[EVO 4G Android Development] scottspa74:
You mean calks original script? I doubt it was edify, i Dont think many devs here starting using edify until fairly recently. And calks 'remove sense' was made around last summer. But i can't answer with certainty.

And just to clarify, i wasnt calling anybody foolhardy. Foolhardy is not an adjective for a noun, (person, place, thing). It is, i believe, an adverb - i.e., it describes an action.

I was trying to say that it seems it would be difficult to make a zip that can account for the variables of how these mixed roms are being built. Was trying to save the dev some headaches. That said, i got nothing but respect for all the devs here.

Skydeaner, are you still thinking of doing lots of blue, or is the focus different now?

Edit: i just reread OP, it seems you wont be doing the blue again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rushco:
On RC1 when I try to change the text message sound in the messaging setting I get a FC. Can someone confirm if it is just me?

Also happens when I try to change my ringtone. Might be something I did.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
Yessir that is everyone on beta4 or below. Download the new or follow the instructions I updated the OP with. When I figure out how to edify I will make a zip with it LOL.

There has to be something really simple I am missing. I am pretty good with java and C and edify seems much simpler than that, there is just something I am not hip to because haven't worked with it before, I am sure my syntax is perfect.

Scotts, I understood what you meant. Kinda why I told everyone to chill out.

And you are right, it would be really hard, as I am working on each of these, the files I remove are quite different from rom to rom. Maybe I will skip making a zip and just try to keep everything updated as best I can. That being said, I will probably be theming my favorite one up, just have to find my favorite! I will check out the icons you suggested and throw them in there if I can, and if I like them lol.

OHH!!!

and the stock odex is coming along nicely... very small compared to all these hybrids, I can see why it runs better on a lot of people's phones if you don't mind missing the lockscreen and cool weather and whatnots of sense 3.0
[EVO 4G Android Development] rushco:
Only other thing I noticed is the MMS Max size is set to 1mb. No option to increase it to 2mb or 5mb. Can you include that? Calk has a .zip to raise it maybe that might work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] scottspa74:
....and i apologize for saying '....Dont give too much credit to...", i overstepped. I just get so amazed at all the requests around here lately for stock looking roms. Seems like anytime a find a nicely themed/modded rom around here anymore, the thread starts to load up with people asking for stock. I just kinda don't get it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pdane:
Skydeaner,

I really like your senseless Synergy rom. This would be my ideal rom except that I use LinkedIn for Sense and the Picasa app for the gallery, both of which are downloadable from Htc hub. Any chance you will include htc hub in your next beta or include these apps in your rom?

Of course, I guess I can flash Synergy then use titanium backup to back them up and then reinstall them after flashing your senseless rom. Either way thanks for all of your work and keeping up with this thread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
There might be some dependent background downloader apk or something that you will need as well. Try it with titanium backup and let me know if it works or not and I will see what I can do.
[EVO 4G Android Development] redskykiter:
Is there an easy way to get the prl update working or dialer codes? (MikG 2.2 B2)
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
No, lol. But I will fix it for beta3.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
OP UPDATED

These should be fully functioning and might be the last builds. Let me know if you have any bugs. Of course on fresh and stock-odex there is no rosie.apk at all because there is no 3.0 lockscreen to customize. Oh and go-launcher was replaced with ADW launcher. I use go launcher still personally, all the cool drawer icon animations and everything are too good to resist, but it seems a lot of people prefer ADW, maybe because that is just what they are comfortable with, so that is what i'm including now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
anyone notice any bugs? Or is everyone too drunk to notice LOLOL

j/k Party safe people
[EVO 4G Android Development] interloper:
Your dedication to all these requests is commendable.

Probably sent from my couch
[EVO 4G Android Development] scottspa74:
Damn, just tried to goto chambanatech to click ad at bottom, and ....no ad. D'oh! I'm using adFree. I'll have to find another way. ;)

As for bugs, i can't report cuz honestly, I'm currently not using the rom. I installed synergy rc1 several days ago and got it themed up and it's running great, so havent had the itch to flash.

That said, it would be nice to not have the buttload of sense stuff running in the background. And im betting the theming stuff i use (janker5050 honeycomb theme) would work on your release, I'll give it a go soon.

Thanks SD
[EVO 4G Android Development] Gandroid:
These are very impressive roms, skydeaner. After long time I am trying senseless roms.

Synergy beta 5 - google navigation wants to install speech...looks like that package might be missing. also during the navigation the phone became unresponsive...I had to pull the battery. so yesterday I downloaded Mikg-v2.2-less_beta2.zip and so far its been working great...including maps and navigation.

so whats the diff between beta2 and mikg22odex_beta9.zip... other than adw as default launcher?
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
everything should be working in 9, although if 2 is working for you, there arent any specific improvements. there may be something that you find doesnt work in beta 2 eventually . i dont see any reason you wouldnt be able to flash over beta 2 with beta 9. just make sure you nandroid first. and i think i raised dalvik heap on it from 32 to 48 or maybe that was the othet roms...
[EVO 4G Android Development] stinkbud:
I saw this and immediately started downloading. The senseless Synergy is what I really want to get going, but it does not load on my phone, I am stuck at the HTC Evo4g white screen. I know synergy roms tend to take some time on first boot but this is just not booting. What am I doing wrong?

I have the senseless fresh 4.2 and that seems to load fine. I even went as far as to download synergy a second time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
dunno, everyone else it is loading fine for, and it loads fine off of my phone. I tried downloading it onto my phone and loading the download and it worked fine too.

What hardware version do you have?

And what recovery are you using?

It has to be one of those two things.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stinkbud:
I got version 003 hardware and clockwork mod with caulkin's extra space partition mods running. Fresh worked without issue, and I know stock synergy will also run on my phone and caulkins mod going.

As I type, I am attempting to get synergy going again. I downloaded directly from tapatalk, no dice so far and its been at the white screen for I would guess 15 minutes.

I really don't want to give up the extra app space that the caulkin mod gives, I just ditched my a2sd partition because it never emptied, it just stayed there almost filled even after a full wipe. I am certain that had something to do with various buggy behaviors my phone started doing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
I would try amonRa recovery. You could use firerat's partition mod if calk didn't make one for AR recovery. I hear lots of bad about CWM 3... I had an early version that just went nuts, and never tried it again. It also sounds like the reason your a2sd ext partition wasn't clearing was probably because of Clockwork, also another problem many people have with it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] muppetman462:
Hmm....I must be nuts. I flashed the synergyrc1beta9, and when started it, there was Rosie.....I must have screwed something up :/
[EVO 4G Android Development] stinkbud:
I got rid of clockwork, modded amon ra and tried to flash senseless synergy again. No go. Then I tried flashing an unmodded amon ra recovery. Still no go on synergy. Could it be my phone being hardware 003?
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
Nope, read the OP, Rosie is there for you to customize the sense 3.0 lockscreen. It is the major thing that is missing from every senseless rom I have seen.

What good is the sense 3.0 lockscreen if you can't customize it?

What I do is use titanium backup and freeze rosie after i customize the lockscreen, that way if I want to go back and change a widget on it or something I can just unfreeze it, change it, then freeze it again. Works amazing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
Very weird my friend, I really don't know what to tell you. I have 003 and it works just fine too. Have you tried downloading it on a PC and then copying it to the phone?
[EVO 4G Android Development] stinkbud:
Hmm, so far I did PC download, phone download, amon ra and clockwork install, amon ra I tried modded and unmodded, I even tried an install from a fresh sdhc card. I am completely stumped at this point.

Fresh works well for me, but I miss the bells and whistles of synergy. I also tried to instal your version of MikG, that also stays stuck in the splash screen as well.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rileyd5:
Hello,

I tried the stock version. received error messages trying to setup facebook for sense and the facebook for android app. Facebook for sense seemed to go through eventually but facebook for android will not log in. Also, the signal bars are on and off a good bit while setting up. When I set up email, the bars were off but it downloaded my exchange email which is strange. tried to update profile but there was just a black screen. Just wanted to let you know. Maybe a bad flash. I did fully wipe. Thanks for the rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
Can someone help us out and tell me if this is working on your phone or not. A lot of people have downloaded them, but I need to know if it is working on 003 he other than just my phone. So, someone who downloaded it please let me know.

And one more thing. In amonra did you use the clear all option? Try this.

Format all

Format dalvik cache. So it catches all 3 possible locations

Format system

Format boot

Flash rom
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
The only time I was able to duplicate the problem was with firerat/calks. Custom mtd. With a fresh flash of amon RA 2.3 it booted past the white evo screen in less than 30 seconds and on to my custom boot animation for about a minute and then right into the rom.

It also booted that fast with clockworkmod.

The only time it didn't was with the custom partitioning. And it didn't matter what the partitions were sized at. So I assume it is an incompatibility in hoe it modifies the kernel. Maybe once we get some custom gb sense kernels we will be able to get it going, until then it is just a2sd.

Has anyone gotten custom partitions working on the normal version of synergy rc1?
[EVO 4G Android Development] alaman68:
love your boot ani!!! If I really concentrate, I can make the circle spin the opposite direction of the bee.

word:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] scottspa74:
I can only help in reverse. Meaning, i have never partitioned, and normal synergy rc1 loads/boots/runs just fine here. HW 002 , RA 1.80. I honestly think that a lot of the reason behind people having so many bootloops lately (on all roms) is due to partitioning problems, or partition not being wiped fully. Something of that nature. Hence, my reluctance to partition.

But stinkbud trying a fresh sd card i think means it's not a partition issue (I dunno)

I havent flashed this yet, and my 3g speeds are painfully slow right now (for downloading rom) . Later today I'll be in 4g area and DL rom and flash (just nandroided last night ;) ) (I use my evo for downloading all roms - it's my only internet)
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
WEll the partitioning he is referring to is on the NAND not the SD card. But I agree, it is causing problems for a lot of people. The script for it isn't compatible with all roms. I want to pluck it apart and find out why I just haven't had time.

And once you change the nand partitions you have to flash the script that modifies the kernel before you can boot into any rom, so if it doesn't make the necessary changes then those partitions won't mount correctly and it just stays at the white screen because it has no where else to go... it doesn't see a rom at all.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skydeaner:
Well I didn't make it, I just chose from a bunch of them, but thanks, I thought it was mesmerizing as well lol.

Also,

I am workin on a calkulin version right now. He includes scripts that undervolt the kernel at every boot and other optimizations that are amazing. Calk is the best of the best. He has provided us so many of the things that we use in every single rom we mod, it is just insane.

I can't wait to run his rom without sense. The battery is already decent since the 4.24 update, but after his boot scripts it should be L337
[EVO 4G Android Development] alaman68:
couldn't agree more about calk and his ROMs, he also had the original remove sense which i loved. Only thing I would want added to his ROM minus sense is the screen off animation which wasnt part of his GB sense 1.0