yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy General] agent__orange:
hi guys, i just recently bought my defy, i am aware that it is on android 2.1 eclair.

1. i wanted it to be on froyo, question is, do i need to ROOT it?

2. my current location is saudi arabia, what version do i need? and if i travel, say asia, will the "upgraded" froyo still work?

3. is there any simple way to be in 2.2 froyo? ( i am now confused on many and different steps/guides here on xda)

i just dont want it to be on eclair.. please help..

thanks in advance!
[Defy General] goateye:
I did an upgrade to Froyo 2.2.2 Nordic release.

No root.
[Defy General] zakoo2:
1. there is no need to root the device just to upgrade it, only if you want to flash an unofficial rom. if there is an official OTA update, simply go to settings > about phone and check for updates, and download/install it, or you could try downloading motorola software update from the official site, and try that!

2. it depends, but afaik you will have no problem, as long as the gsm frequencies match, you'll be fine.

3. what do you mean? simple way to update? or simple way to use?
[Defy General] agent__orange:
process? shall i download the "rom" and then install it directly?
[Defy General] zakoo2:
if there is an OTA update, then yes, just download and install directly. if you can't find anything from your phone, try from your computer with motorola software update!
[Defy General] agent__orange:
so meaning if it is official android 2.2 froyo update from motorola itself, there's no need for rooting? [the easiest way for me =)]

however, if i opt for an unofficial version of android, rooting is needed? [this is my nightmare, i really can't follow or what to follow]

are the "stock" here http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=Motorola_Defy#Guides.2C_How-Tos_.26_Tutorials official (no rooting needed)?
[Defy General] zakoo2:
yep, exactly, because for an unofficial update you have to use rsd lite, and that works with rooted phones only.

EDIT: sorry, my bad, apparently you CAN flash an sbf with rsd lite without root, dunno why i thought you can't. :)
[Defy General] mpiekp:
Root isn't neccesary for RSD either, only for nandroid restores.
[Defy General] nepotu:
@agent__orange You can flash any SBF with RDS Lite without rooting the phone. You'll need to root the phone in order to install ClockworkMOD Custom recovery (tenfar's recovery or 2nd Init). This app will help you to back-up your current system (create nadroid backups) and also will allow to apply nandroid backups.

The safest way to upgrade your phone is by applying a nandroid backup and then flashing a fixed SBF. This way you'll keep you downgradability(that means you can always go back to your stock system which I assume is Eclair).

There are few steps to do in order to update to Foryo and preserve downgradability:

- install ClockworkMOD recovery

- wipe cache, data, dalvik cache

- install the nandroid

- reboot phone in bootloader

- apply fixed SBF

You can find more details on this topic [(7) How to install CM7 and keep downgrade-ability? (Froyo or Eclair) ]

PS: you can always use the search function, it won't bite I promise ;)
[Defy General] agent__orange:
i did lurk for a while here on defy threads...its just i've got confused already with many many methods or process to do. =)

thanks so much for the response..let's say i dont want to go downgrade, so all that i need is the OFFICIAL ROM (froyo, i really wanted that cm7 though..sigh)..

1. download official rom (from pc)

2. transfer to defy

3. install

is this correct?
[Defy General] nepotu:
In order to transfer it to Defy you'll need to download also the RDS Lite v4.9 app which will allow you to write the SBF to your phone. Moreover I strongly recommend you to wipe the data before flashing the SBF using the stock recovery (power phone by pressing Vol Down+ Power, then wipe data/factory reset, cache and dalvik cache). Then you can go into bootloader (start the phone using Vol Up+Power) connect your phone to pc and flash the SBF.
[Defy General] goateye:
I did that quick update with an unofficial rom;

1/

Downloaded the ROM, in my case 3.4.2_177-Fixed.NORDIC_DEBLUR.sbf

2/

Loaded that file in RSDLite v4.9

3/

Removed battery from Defy and put it together again

4/

Conect the USB-cable

5/

Pusched VolumeUp and PowerOn for aprox 1 sec. Continue hold the VolumeUp and a black screen appears with some text like "conected OK" ...dont remember exactly...

6/

RSD Lite will now identify Defy

Hit "Start" in RSD Lite and the install will begin. 5-10 minutes and thats all.

NO ROOT
[Defy General] nepotu:
You don't need to take out the battery, but it's recommended to wipe everything (data,cache) before flashing a new SBF.
[Defy General] agent__orange:
thanks guys, i'll try that out..btw, where can i find the RSDLite v4.9? sorry noob...
[Defy General] nepotu:
You can download RSD Lite 4.9 from here.
[Defy General] agent__orange:
thanks!

also i have read about "locking the screen" (power button + slide), and heard about an app that only uses "slide" only (so not pushing power button everytime), what is it?

is the "slide-screen-lock" can be installed on defy without rooting/upgrading?
[Defy General] agent__orange:
guys, i have updated to 2.2, my located now is at saudi arabia, if i go to singapore in the future, will my phone still work there?
[Defy General] nepotu:
I don't know which baseband is used in Singapore, but with a program like baseband switcher you can go wherever you'd like and your phone will work. You'll only have to change the baseband accordingly.
[Defy General] agent__orange:
thanks a lot!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nigeldg:
I had approximately 11m/a battery drain (which is pretty poor in the first place) but then, after a reboot, I have 60m/a drain. I've lost 5% battery in an hour! Could anyone suggest a reason as to why this is and a fix if possible, that would be really helpful, thanks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Richy99:
whats enabled? such as wifi, BT etc

also what rom is it?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nigeldg:
Nothing is enabled, no wireless connections except phone itself, MCCM HDv4.5 SD build with Windows Mobile stock rom 3.14.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zat0x:
Nice ! Looking good.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] DannyBiker:
Thanks, I would try it but while imilka's a2sd method allows a lot of nand space, it leads many apps to FC, whether they are installed on ext or nand. Try Football Kicks, Cordy, Earth, etc...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] paully520:
Could you add the languages of Chinese?Thanks.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
Im not gamer myself, but i just tried air attack HD and cordy and they are working. The initrd used is imillak's new one
[HD2 Android NAND Development] focuse24:
Looks great .... hopefully will be stable & fast :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] egyptdvd:
hey dear, Ahmed,, where have you been, its so nice fining your heres, we hope everything is just fine with you.

Thanks for this new rom , but tell me does it also have htc location ? and i'm currently using your amazing ( Qaliza_Incredible_S_ARA_v4.0_EU ) , so what's the new and do you recommend to me using that new (Qaliza's Deisre HD ARA v1.1) and inform me why?

last thing i want to ask you about , i got new micro sd 16 GB for my htc hd2 which runs your amazing android rom v.4

the problem is the rom is running so slow .. while when i used the 8 GB micro is it was running just prefect.

do you anything i as do that may solve that problem

and hope to hear and see from your so soon my friend.

p.s: both cards i formatted them as your show two partitions and both are primary.

thank you so so much and waiting for your reply
[HD2 Android NAND Development] seaman2k:
nice to see your work again ..i like it so much :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
Hello egyptdvd its nice to be back i was very busy the past few months with my masters.

In general app2sd is much better smoother, faster and more stable than data2ext.

There is no really big difference between both builds. Both are froyo 2.2 with sense 2.0

I really recommend this one especially the cLK version.

I did not remove anything except e-reader so yes htc locations is present.

Regards
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
I will look forward to it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] saftazeen:
And anther Nice work :) keep going :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sj1992:
I'm gonna try this out when you upload MAGLDR version :) maybe do it today ;) hahaha!! how is the battery life on this rom?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] egyptdvd:
thanks Ahmed, all our prayers for you with your studies,We Really Missed you;);)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] DannyBiker:
Well my dear friend, if other users can confirm this, you might get yourself a new customer...:D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
You should consider trying cLK bootloader, its a whole new experience :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Stephen:
How are you finding internet using clk. I have tried other roms and it is not quite as good as rmnet? What do you think?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
Both wifi and data connections are working great
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sj1992:
it doesnt say "fastboot: processing commands" on the last line it says [2660] -- portchange --
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
Do u have the ADB drivers installed?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sj1992:
i dont know what they are lol
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rotbartig:
Emmmmm... So where is the update? :confused: 5 hours have passed long ago :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Rick_1995:
waiting :(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] najib82:
It is tomorrow now still waiting for upload did he cancelled the v1.2
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Rick_1995:
about to be 24 hours, i hope not.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
Qaliza's Desire HD cLK v1.2

Qaliza's Desire HD cLK v1.2 Ready. Check OP :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Rick_1995:
Thanks for the awesomest sense rom on cLK :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] peterpan1957:
v1.2 for MAGLDR ?

When come a MAGLDR Version?

friendly Greeting peterpan1957

The Version 1.1 is for me the best rom for use every day long Batterielife and every thing run.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
Downloading now. Testing and reporting soon.

Thank you.

Edit: The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later. on Megauplaod.

Looks like many of them are downloading from the same :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] metko:
same here,but downloading from hotfile hope this will work good :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
Haha, I did the same, but unfortunately some problem, stuck on 90% with 3min. remaining, have to restart again.

Edit: Downloading with Megaupload now.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] OCedHrt:
Is there any plan for a non app2sd for TMOUS users? :) I would like to try it but don't want to re-partition my SD card. I know I'm being greedy ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] metko:
Downloaded backing up my MIUI and flashing will report :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
Good to see you back here :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sarryrondo:
Hey Qaliza. Great job. I have 3 questions.

1. Isn't RUU 1.84.661.1 newer than your build?

2. Can you create a rom using this base ( RUU 1.84.661.1) ?

3. Can you make a cLK app2sd leo512 version of : [8 APRIL][ZIP][Qaliza's Incredible S v4.0][ARABIC][data2ext][kernel Rafpigna 1.9 OC]? This would have been a perfect build if it hadn't corrupted my SD card every 5-6th reboot... Or just make it cLK without app2sd or data2ext script... just to fit on internal nand on leo512.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] adazamim:
Mabrouk - (congratulations)

MABROUK dear Qaliza on the new build :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
I will be making a TMOUS version soon for cLK and MAGLDR
[HD2 Android NAND Development] metko:
flashed new rom again when you rebot process system is giving me FC i hope fix premissions is going to fix that :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
The 1.84 and 1.83 are almost the same build only difference is that 1.83 supports arabic.

I'll be upadating my Incredible S and desire builds soon
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
Just press volume + or - and it will by pass it
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
Hope you like it
[HD2 Android NAND Development] metko:
For now its working like a DHD an i hope it will stay like that fix premissions 2 or 3 time doenst show any FC but after reboot its there again and that anoys me but i think its nice :) for now
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rotbartig:
Awesome one :) Thanks Qaliza for your great work!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] epapas:
Hi tested the ROM. Everything great. Offcourse by changing the kernel we get some more wake-up lag due to Raf kernel

I still have the issue with the notification area.

Please try to reproduce:

Start music

Drag down the notification area and observe an image like a compresse sun
[HD2 Android NAND Development] metko:
ok so rom works good and smooth but gps locking is terrible,i applied the fix for my zone and tytung's lastest libgps.so fix but it wont lock,befor after 10 max 15 minutes it woud lock on MIUI so its not an are problem?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rotbartig:
Had to revert back to tytung kernel given at OP - 'cos get the same dramatic battery drain with the new one + wake up lag for 5 sec or so.

Meanwhile tested UltimateDroid - there are no battery drain but used the same tytung kernel. So I suppose this drain is not kernel-related.

Maybe the problem is in CLK?

And one more question - are all the new things in v1.2 kenel-related? Or playing with kernels doesn't affect them much?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] namaste74:
I have the phantom sun there too when playing music. Not a biggie tho since my bluetooth works. I have everything setup so I am making a nandroid now and going to test with the r10 kernal, see what happens.

Edit: Works fine but BT issues return, so am restoring back to Rafs kernal, my lag wasn't that bad anyway and I use BT a lot.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] poserw6815:
opera mini not working

opera mini not working:(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rotbartig:
Terrific battery drain - 15% for 30 min. w\o any load except for wifi and 5 min. of Angry Birds. :( And it doesn't depend on kernel :eek: What this can be?...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Rick_1995:
hey qaliza,

i suggest you rename the device and all the libs from leo to bravo and then we will have htcsense.com and other htc services working. (this is the same thing that imilka did to get it working).

thanks for the awesomest sense rom on cLK :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] namaste74:
HTC sense.com is down for maintanance as far as I can tell from their website, been a few days already.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] metko:
+1 for the Battery drain.....:(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] babak_1274:
dear Qaliza

thank you for your nice ROM

but when i poweroff the phone it doesn't come back again.

please suggest me.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dzatara:
Same here. Tried to reinstal twice i get FC (which can't be get rid of on home screen) or just black screen after i click "wait"

I guess I am going back to 1.1 it was great :p until fix or new release is out
[HD2 Android NAND Development] metko:
WHEN THE fc WINDOW apear on boot just pres vol - or + and it will bypass it :)

any news about battery drainage>
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dzatara:
yes man thanks but it was feedback report not whining :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
Just to make everything clear, there wont be a fix for the new release as there is nothing wrong with it. Its exactly the same as v1.1 with kernel change and some minor modifications. I booted my device over 10 times and never got any FC messages.

Remember that the faster the SD card the better, cos half the ROM (framework & app folders) are on the ext partition.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] metko:
i have fc but thats not a problem the problem is battery and gps??
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Siavashb:
Dear Qaliza

thank for your great work!

every thing works perfect but

it has big problem ( at least in my country) with VPN connection !

in this rom and in my usual setting it wont connect any more

is there any cure ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mehrshad:
Dear ahmed

How are you man ?

I have a question

When i change kernel of this rom , is this rom support arabic/persian again ?

Thanks
[HD2 Android NAND Development] metko:
yes it will cause that is not kernel related :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
OK, so its been 8-10 hrs on v1.2 and have to say, there are some performance improvements. Firstly, I read on here about the wake up lag, for me its no different than tytung's (prev. version), it wakes up within 2-3 sec at max.

I confirm Opera Mini not working, the problem appears whenever the Touch Input slides out either to input in address bar or for anything else, otherwise you can browse the bookmarks etc.

People complaining battery drain, I don't know if anything much has changed from the previous version. Right now it says 4h 28m since unplugged, with display taking 41% power and standby 21%. My 3G connection has stayed always ON, browsed xda forums, used facebook, casual browsing, and now the battery shows 89%. Could be better?

I see data drops more often on this and the browsing experience isn't as smooth as it was on v1.1. After about 10-15min after boot ROM comes to speed and is very responsive from then.

BTW, the new skin Krzysiec is cool.

So reading all the posts here, I observe some people have good about few features which are bad to other few. So this isn't kernel related. As Qaliza pointed out about SD that most of the ROM works from SD, so I think its the SD cards which are causing different user experiences. When system needs to read a file from SD card, if the card is slow, or formatted with small clusters, it will take more number of processes for the same file than on a quick SD card, maybe that's where the battery is getting drained, because everything else is common to all users.

I also tested for System Process FC at boot, it did appear initially, but now after fixing permissions via CWM, there's no more sight of it.

So overall, its added functionality (Radio, Bluetooth) over previous version for me.

Let me know if you need anything else to know.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vysus:
So, do you suggest to use the cLK update without any doubt?

I'm with the MAGDLR 1.1 version, flashed the Rafpigna kernel and things are running smoothly..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kimmy89:
Opera Mini not working! This is very bad! I really need Opera.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
If you want Bluetooth to work, then you have to update to v1.2. Concerning MAGLDR or cLK, I suggest you stay on MAGLDR if its running smooth for you, I chose cLK because it boots like a Native Android Device and that was the version initially released for this ROM, that's it, no other added advantage. If the booting style doesn't bother you, MAGLDR is very good indeed, no change required.

Your MAGLDR v1.2 should be up soon.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dzatara:
Ok I understand but I wasn't clear b4 so:

I doesn't get the usual FC/Wait dialog it says something like "The process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again" and just 1 button/choice is possible ----> FC when i click it the same dialog appear and like that forever :D . It always happen after reboot - 1st boot is always good.

Edit: I wonder why i just installed cLK after task 29 so nand is clear.

I'll try format sd

Edit2: It was the sd card. After format of ext and fat partitions everything's ok with v1.2.

I heard before about this but I never believe it will happen to me.

From this time forward new ROM => Format SD1st

Thanks qaliza great rom, no drain fast and smooth.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] john_matrix:
Hello Qaliza!

Very good 1.2 build! Only one disturbing thing, there is a "cloudy sun" when a song is playing with the default player and when you drag the "top menu" ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] metko:
ok qualiza nice rom but one question how to set that the gps doesnt turn off by it self when the screen goes of??I cant figure that out :)?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
For those of you having problem running Opera Mini, I figured out its due to the font DroidSansJapanese.ttf missing in the system/fonts folder.

Need a fix for this.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Amir167:
How do I upgrade the kernel on the raf 2.0 test (clk version)?

somebody could update it?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kimmy89:
Opera doesn't work with this font. This is not the problem.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rotbartig:
Any tweaks\ideas\know-how\how-to? :) Just clean Qaliza's ROM?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
Yes, clean ROM, no tweak.

Just before updating from v1.1, did wipe data, ext, cache and also dalvik cache from CWM.

Then installed zip from SD, didn't use a clean SD though, and my SD is formatted with 64kb cluster size. I have a 8gb Sandisk Class 2.

Yes, but that's what the ADB logcat shows, missing font in folder /system/fonts

And it force closes only when you try to input text, otherwise you can browse, open/close menu, no problem whatsoever. I don't mean the problem is with the font, it might be related to it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rotbartig:
64kb? Haven't heard that ext2/3/4 allows such size of cluster :confused: Or you mean FAT32 part of SD? And which ext* do you have? Right now I use ext4/4kb cluster.

Right now I have 77% battery after 3h of almost stanby usage :( Really confused about whole that trouble...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dool2002:
Dear Qaliza

Thanks for this wonderful rom...everything is working perfectly with me

i have only one annoying problem that i think it's not rom-related, my twitter for HTC sense is not working..i added an account & entered the password correctly, ensured on twitted that the application is granted access, but when i sync to get tweets nothing happens, when i try to link any of contacts to his/her twitter account i find the twitter contact list empty...any solution for that???

thanks again
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
Yes yes, 64kb fat32. My ext is ext3 I think, I made it through CWM. For me the battery drain for 3hr in standby would be 4-5%.

BTW, you check 'What has been using the Battery' under 'About Phone' in Settings Menu..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rotbartig:
Already - it says "Display - 72%" right now and smth about 40% other time. I've turned auto brightness off and set it to 35%.

May be I should try to make my partitions via CWR, let's see. Anyway, thanks for support. :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
I've uploaded my screenshot for battery use: http://i56.tinypic.com/2h3972x.jpg

I didn't make any settings the display brightness.

Remember to take backup of your fat partition, its wiped during the process of partitioning for ext partition via CWM.

And you're most welcome :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ilija_kg:
I have problem , after flashig only black screen and green HTC logo , what is wrong?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rotbartig:
Thanks bro :)

Well, nothing has happened - even formatting via CWR didn't help. So I'm just looking for some constant power supply near me :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
Which version? Try wiping dalvik cache.

If that doesn't solve, try wiping data and ext partition and try again.

Assuming you've flashed the correct recovery partition.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hamsn:
I followed only the steps mentioned in the original post, starting from task29 to flashing the Rom. Used same files as linked in the first post. How was your battery on magldr? If you haven't tried, then I suggest you do it.

What apps do you use? What background data processes like sync, exchange server, etc. are set to update automatically?

And I suggest you test the ROM without installing any apps, then see if there's a difference.

I hope you get it working efficiently :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rotbartig:
Yep I tried all this stuff, from task29 to clean install w/o any apps - it's always the same :) So I think it's smth like rain - you should just take it and relax :)