yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] bcpk:
http://doublejump.eu/VIDEO0013.3gp

Here is an 80 MB sample video of 1080P on the Sensation, filming some 5-a-side soccer. The recording was written to a Class 4 Kingston 8 GB microSDHC card.

If the download speed is slow because you are in the United States, I have mirrored it here:

http://usa.doublejump.eu/VIDEO0013.3gp
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Really appreciate you posting that sample.

It's ok for a phone. The color balance is off. Red is too saturated, which shows up in the jerseys, and the unnatural looking grass and skin tones. There are also noticeable compression artifacts. Exposure and sound are good in this clip.

I'm hoping GSMArena will post their Photo Compare Tool data soon.

http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3

Edit: Here's a sample screen shot from that video. All I did in the second one is lower the red level. Just out of curiosity, which looks more natural to you?

Original:

Reduced red level:
[HTC Sensation] giorgisp:
That was pretty impressive in my opinion! The best I've seen around... :D
[HTC Sensation] SK_007:
Wow!have to say this sample looks fantasic!!!

Only colour blind and biassed people can find fault in this video :p
[HTC Sensation] giorgisp:
^^ This :D
[HTC Sensation] SK_007:
What do u mean be more specific dude!!!
[HTC Sensation] giorgisp:
Lol I mean that I totally agree with your other post :)
[HTC Sensation] SK_007:
Oh i see,thanks mate!!!!
[HTC Sensation] Walkamo:
Here are links to the 3gp files that I shot at Disneyland.. The video is quite good..

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8757366/VIDEO0010.3gp

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8757366/VIDEO0009.3gp

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8757366/VIDEO0011.3gp

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8757366/VIDEO0012.3gp

Walkamo
[HTC Sensation] pakraider:
These raw 3gp's are incredible! Silky smooth 1080p. A bit over exposed for my tastes, but that's all in the settings so no big deal.

:D
[HTC Sensation] Madcypher:
Much Appreciated...

Hats off to BCPK and Walkamo for providing the RAW video files for us fanatics!

When I get mine I'll be sure to reciprocate for anyone who wants to see some RAW footage.

These look 1000% better than the YouTube variations I've seen floating around. Really show the capabilities of the cam on the Sensation.

Note: as long as the original video is high quality, you can always edit in post to correct color issues etc.

Thanks again guys.

Can't wait till June 15th.

Cyph
[HTC Sensation] bcpk:
Here's another sample http://doublejump.eu/VIDEO0009.3gp

http://usa.doublejump.eu/VIDEO0009.3gp mirror up in a moment
[HTC Sensation] SK_007:
I think i am a bit unfortunate bro,take a look:

http://homeshopping.pk/products/HTC-Sensation-in-Pakistan.html

This is definately on the high side,they are demanding 70000($815) for Sensation,damn!!!!
[HTC Sensation] SK_007:
OMG!i am in love with this sports.btw the quality is really fantastic!!!
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Another Sensation and SGS2 comparison video, with audio switching between the two.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF09PC2PEyc
[HTC Sensation] SupremeBeaver:
Hi guys,

I don't have a Sensation and probably won't get one but i do have the Desire HD and would like to make some comments with regards to the camera. I believe the Sensation suffers largely from the same problems the Desire HD does and it's things that HTC don't give a flying f*ck about.

1) Very poor low light video. When you shoot outdoors you get 30fps, when indoors you get 10-20fps. So video us terrible and unusable in low light. I find this unacceptable since the iPhone 4, LGG2x, Samsung and Eriksson phonesall shoot around 22-27 fps in low light which is very acceptable. There's no two ways around this, HTC really skimp on the quality of sensor here and

2) Horrendous exposure changes. This has been mentioned by many so far in this thread and some (i won't name :rolleyes:) refuse to see this. You can have the camera facing one direction and you'll get this brilliant shot, but then turn it a few inches and bam the whole image can go too dark or too bright. This is a major problem with both the Sensation and the Desire HD i have. Again HTC just give a damn to fix these issues.

3) Ass sound quality. There's something about HTC microphones that really does my head in. It's sounds like nails scratching a black board. That's the only way i can describe it. It isn't smooth audio, it's sort of rasping audio. All HTC phones suffer from this and apparently the Sensation does too.

Ok with all that said, it still is capable of taking some nice looking videos in day light, but it's these problems i mentioned above that will probably stop me from ever buying HTC phones.
[HTC Sensation] bcpk:
The Sensation has dual microphones for stereo sound recording, which is something new. They sound reasonably good to me.
[HTC Sensation] SK_007:
Sirf tasweer main nahin haqeeqat main bhi tu kisi kharish zada kuti ka bacha hai :D
[HTC Sensation] SupremeBeaver:
um what lol.
[HTC Sensation] SupremeBeaver:
They may be dual microphones but they aren't the best quality. I would easily take a higher quality single mic than lower quality dual mic. Even HTC's loud speakers are so underwhelming.
[HTC Sensation] Madcypher:
One week from bliss....

Anyone have anymore RAW clips they'd like to share? Please and thank you up front!

Cyph
[HTC Sensation] bcpk:
You can't expect fabulous sound quality out of a tiny microphone in a super thin phone. I feel the same about the people arguing over which of the GS2 and Sensation record better quality video. They both have tiny sensors with miniature lens arrays, the difference is not going to be dramatic.

Compared to the Nexus One the Sensation's mic quality is a big improvement and that's sufficient for me.
[HTC Sensation] baymon:
This is not Raw clip, but I noticed that Youtube allows you to even view the vid in original resolution (just bcoz sensation produced 1920x1088, 8 more pixels that regular 1080), and quality is superb as expected.

Sound? not so much, I'm curious to see the difference with non-stereo recording. So far, all of my stereo recordings sounded Horrible with a capital H.

Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5Ycy4edyng&feature=share
[HTC Sensation] Madcypher:
Ok, first of all you should record your videos in landscape mode. Portrait recording of HD video is simply amateur. You lose so much image and it makes it awkward to look at on any playback medium other than the phone screen.

Regardless if YouTube allows you to view original res (1920x1088), you still take a hit in bit rate because YouTube re-encodes the video to a lower bit rate, which means you take at least a 20% or more hit in quality/details.

I don't own one yet (Wed can't get here fast enough), but from what I've heard on the sample videos so far the audio is better than anything else out there, especially the 1080p crowd! The SGSII only records mono in a lesser bit rate and sampling frequency and I dare you to find a phone that records better audio. Not sure what you're looking for audiowise from a cell phone, but its more than ample to get the job done.

I'd love to hear some of your samples you've taken, if you'd be so kind to post RAW footage I'd take a listen. I'm a singer, I have ProTools and a high end home studio for recording and an excellent ear.

Cyph
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
Hi not got a Sensation yet but have a GS2 thought you would want to see some raw footage straight from the phone for comparison.

This is a video on Youtube but the raw footage looks way better and is posted in the raw files links, for a reference the youtube video is half the size and only around 6000kbps bit rate compared to 17083 of the original file.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK03FWztkHM

Here are more raw files straight from the phone.

http://www.mediafire.com/?h7bzlgv4z0fd6x3

http://www.mediafire.com/?m5h9njk1qwm7ipi
[HTC Sensation] SupremeBeaver:
That looks absolutely brilliant dude. Very detailed, very smooth, and sound is light years ahead of the Sensation.

Sorry to say it, but Samsung are light years ahead of HTC in the cemera department.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Somewhat off topic, but related.

GSMArena has the photo tests for the Sensation and GS2 posted. I'll let anyone interested draw their own conclusions. One note, check out the difference in the flower.

http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=3875&idPhone2=3621
[HTC Sensation] bcpk:
The Sensation has focus-on-demand (ie touch to focus) in video recording, which puts it ahead of SGS2 in my mind. Both of them record fairly mediocre "HD" video, as is to be expected from such tiny sensors / cheap optics, so I look to other features to really determine which is superior.

WRT the photo test posted above ... much like its screen, the Sensation produces more accurate colours in its photos. But the shots are definitely less sharp than the Samsung's.
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
So the Sensation hasn't got auto focus in videos like the GS2 ?
[HTC Sensation] SupremeBeaver:
It has both autofocus and touch to focus.
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
Ahh good might be picking one up soon lol, but I have to say touch focus drove me mad on the I4 so its something I wouldn't want as the auto focus on the GS2 is great.

Those videos didn't have the enhanced audio cam mod for the GS2 also there are higher bit rates, from the thread of the dev the audio on these videos was 60kbit so its a big improvement.

I have prepared a package, with the following settings:

1080p mode: Normal – 17 Mbit Fine – 24 Mbit – Super fine – 30 Mbit

720p mode Normal – 9 Mbit Fine – 13 Mbit Super fine – 17 Mbit

Both modes have audio at 48000 khz at 192 kbit
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
I disagree about color accuracy. The Sensation color is more saturated, but the balance is off, primarily in the red. Look at the blond hair, and overly blushed skin, as just two examples. You might say the GS2 is a bit undersaturated, but it is more natural looking. Either way, color balance is easy to correct in post processing. Lack of sharpness, and the unfortunate auto exposure issues on videos, are much more difficult. It's a shame, so close, but some key flaws.
[HTC Sensation] VideoVeteran:
I don't think you can get these bit-rates with the Sensation. There doesn't seem to be any adjustment or controls to change the bit rates. By my calculations the 1080p mode uses about 10.66 Mbps.

Some samples here:

http://youtu.be/PWiJBgqmclM?hd=1

http://youtu.be/IKYsq9Qj7wA?hd=1
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
Looks sweet those videos am thinking of ordering one to compare them, the stock bit rate of the gs2 is is 17.80Mbps in 1080p and 12.68Mbps in 720p.

The camera mod came from xda so I can't see why they can't do the same on the Sensation once HTC release the bootloader unlock.
[HTC Sensation] bcpk:
The bitrate on the Sensation is limited by your microSD card speed. That is an advantage of the SGS2's large internal storage - it is fast and constant.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Any idea what class it is? I've read the Galaxy S has a class 4 internal. If so, it's easy to match or better that on the external.
[HTC Sensation] VideoVeteran:
My Sensation (USA) came equipped with Sandisk 8GB Class-4 card. The class-4 is supposed to mean tested for sustained 4 Mbps transfer rates. In theory this would hardly be fast enough for HD video at bit rates we're seeing, but as they say "Your mileage may vary". Even the Sandisk website has a spec sheet that shows a Class 4 device recording HD video up to 24 Mbps! Here.

There are many other factors involved including the phones memory architecture, buffer sizes, etc. Typically cameras record to an internal buffer then transfer to the Flash. When the flash is too slow, the buffer eventually fills and the recording will stop and you get some sort of "storing" or "writing to flash" message. This way the camera always records at a constant rate and what changes with a faster card is how many minutes it will go before stopping. This stopping happens even when there is still plenty of free memory on the Flash card, because the internal buffers have filled.

Using a faster (class-10) card won't necessarily make the camera record at a higher bit rate, but if the camera can't record continuous HD video at the highest quality for very long, it will most likely help it record longer before stopping.

So far I am very impressed with the camera's quality. I am a photo & video hobbyist and have several cameras that can record HD video. Of course it doesn't have many of the high-end camera features or controls, but I never expected such good performance from a phone. Now if it just had a tripod mount or some sort of handle bracket to hold it....
[HTC Sensation] bcpk:
Something like this could probably be adapted fairly simply http://cgi.ebay.ie/Windscreen-Car-M...4606?pt=UK_Holders_Mounts&hash=item25645557de
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Good info. Thanks.

There does seem to be a bit of wiggle room in your description though. I would hope that with dual cores and a sufficiently fast SD that it could keep up. I presume it depends on how HTC implemented it, so probably the only way to sort it out is having folks with different speed SD's report on record times. Have you tested max record time with the stock class 4?

It would be nice to know what effect different speed SD's actually has to optimize purchasing.
[HTC Sensation] SupremeBeaver:
I wouldn't worry too much about the card speeds, because over in the Desire HD forums some users managed to get the Desire to record at 20Mbps, and default was 10Mbps. I have a class 2 card and even at 20Mbps there is no lag at all. So maybe HTC implemented recording such that it writes to RAM first before saving to the SD.
[HTC Sensation] VideoVeteran:
Wiggle room? Yes! It is certainly possible that the camera is sensing the slower card and "throttling back" on the encoding bit rate. I will have to check to see if I have a class-10 laying around to put in it for another test.

Since my tests were very brief, it is possible that it may go at this speed (on the Class-4 card) without ever over filling the buffers - I just don't know yet. More testing is needed. My assumptions were based on experience with other HD cameras that record on SD cards.

As for the tripod/handle, something like this would be ideal:

More info here, but this thing is only available for the iPhone right now.
[HTC Sensation] 299792458:
Sorry that is incorrect... Class 4 means the card must support at least 4 MB/sec write speeds, with MB signifying Mega BYTES. This means at least 32 mbps, which is about 3x the bitrate of the Sensation's 1080P video captures (which I think is a little more than 10 Mbps). I've got a camera that does 1080P avc files at a little under 18 Mbps, which my Kingston class 4 sdhc card handles with ease.
[HTC Sensation] VideoVeteran:
Yes, I stand corrected. No need to worry about Class-4 cards.

However it is common practice to use MB when referring to storage capacity and Mbps when referring to data transfer rates. SD card Class seems to be an exception to this practice. "MBytes/second" is crazy talk.
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
Picked up a Sensation also here is a comparison taking the same video(was a ***** holding 2 steady)

GS2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG0i3zfh0j4

Sensation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMWa22wntfk
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
Am not convinced it has auto focus as well as touch, when i press record it focuses but when I go close to objects they are blurry until I touch the screen, then when I pan out again it stays blurry again until I touch the screen, i have not once seen it auto focus yet.

Confirmed from what I reading on the net it doesn't have auto focus like the GS2 but has tap focus like the I4 which is a tad disappointing.
[HTC Sensation] KillaHurtz:
Thanks for the demo !

I have to say the Sensation has more definition and color.....just my opinion tho.
[HTC Sensation] SoFaKiNgStOkeD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyn0AoiMIyM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I am using a class 10 SD card FYI. Looks pretty great to me even with flash and dark room.
[HTC Sensation] Tom-Helge:
This is the truth.

HTC Sensation's video's can look sharp from time to time, but it's just oversharpened, so the rest looks really bad.

And not only that, but i have the video recording that shows that the Galaxy S II beats the HTC Sensation totally in video quality.

This video clip is taking 145 MB (uncompressed) and it lasts for 1 minute exactly. Just right click on the link and choose 'Save as'.

And this shows that the HTC Sensation is far from having as good quality as the Samsung Galaxy S II.

To now, i haven't seen any uncompressed videos from Sensation that can even get close to have as good quality as Galaxy S II.
[HTC Sensation] bcpk:
That clip doesn't exactly blow me away. It makes my eyes hurt whenever the camera moves. Sound is certainly loud but it's not brilliant either.
[HTC Sensation] Tom-Helge:
It didn't blow me away either, but i think it's pretty damn nice to be from a mobilephone.

The sound in the movie is recorded in 48Khz/192Kbps. But this is in mono. And this is with a modified version of the camera application.

And because it's in mono, then it might not sound that good. But for me, the sound in my clip is much better than the sound quality (even with stereo) on the HTC Sensation.

But i posted my movie clip just to show that HTC Sensation doesn't have ANYTHING to put up against Galaxy S II in video quality and details in the movies it records.
[HTC Sensation] GHOST99K:
here is my 1080p clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4RbGbBXM3o
[HTC Sensation] hurrpancakes:
Here's a video I recorded at a Nascar race last weekend (I got so sunburned, the back of my neck is all mucked up)
[HTC Sensation] Knucklessg1:
I have an old computer and it lags alot when i play 1080p videos. Is it me, or does the video look a tad bit choppy?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] the newbie:
Hello

I am new user in this forum. I need your help.

I have samsung galaxy mini GT S 5570, mobile phone, and have the latest version of samsung kies 2.0 software.

When I connect the device to computer the Kies showed a message that this device firmware can not be updated.

Current Firmware version: PDA:KA3/PHONE: KA2/CSC:KA3

Please help me what should I do?

I will be grateful to you if you help me.

Someone wrote this method on some other web site but this is for samsung galaxy s, please anyone know this method for samsung galaxy mini GT S 5570:

Thanks in advance

Kind regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] the newbie:
Hello

I am new user in this forum. I need your help.

I have samsung galaxy mini GT S 5570, mobile phone, and have the latest version of samsung kies 2.0 software.

When I connect the device to computer the Kies showed a message that this device firmware can not be updated.

Current Firmware version: PDA:KA3/PHONE: KA2/CSC:KA3

Froyo. JPKA3, which is an arabic version and i lived in asia, that s why samsung kies showed a message that your firm ware cannot be updated.........
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] shoaibganatra:
Facing the same issue

I Just bought samsung galaxy mini GT S 5570, mobile phone, and downloaded the latest version of samsung kies 2.0 software.

When I connect the device to computer the Kies showed a message that this device firmware can not be updated.

Current Firmware version: PDA:KA3/PHONE: KA2/CSC:KA3

Froyo. JPKA3 Version 2.2.1. It's language was Arabic and i changed in Endlish US and when I installed the KIES then the same language is selected.

Now the problem is > why is it NOT showing that the upgrade is available?

SHOAIB
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] genieass:
I presume that you are using a PC connected to the net.

I believe KIES looks up your phone on Samsung's websites and probably decides that an upgrade for your area / your phone is not available. We really do not know how kies works internally, so cannot say why KIES says no upgrade is available, when in fact, upgrades for your region / region from where you purchased the phone are available.

If you are looking for official firmware - look at samfirmware, and use ODIN (NOT kies) to upgrade.

If you want custom ROM, read this thread:-

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=18464675
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kgthenerd:
Update firmware to S5570XXKPF from samfirmware, flash ur phone with tj_style's CM7 rom... And enjoy.
[Milestone XT720 General] stampeede:
Sorry for distrub. I was newbie on use motorola xt720. Just last week buy motorola xt720 from another guy. I want to flash CM6 in my phone. But try many time also failure. I find solution on internet. Also can't settle. I have flash uk sbf to my phone already and open root access already. I try use openrecovery to put cm6 inside. But is failure. Can i know how to step by step to do?

this is my phone info

milestone xt720

firmware

2.1-update1

kernel

2.6.29-omap1

thank u everyone
[Milestone XT720 General] mchlbenner:
Sorry can't be done yet
[Milestone XT720 General] Knoedelkopf:
not yet possible. the locked bootloader ****s up!

but cm7 was ported to xt701 that is similar to our xt720 and so it could be ported to our xt720 again maybe.
[Milestone XT720 General] Vistaus:
Except that you don't have a working camera then, which is why many of us bought this phone.

Anyways, I don't understand why it's taking so long for 2nd init to get working. Many Motorola-devices already have 2nd init to boot custom ROMS.
[Milestone XT720 General] stampeede:
I also like the CM7. Because my bro use milestone with cm7 already.

but he say will very lag with here milestone

my 1 is singapore version xt720

don't know is enough to use cm7 or not?

i want put all app run from sdcard
[Milestone XT720 General] Mioze7Ae:
We already use 2nd-init on all of the Froyo ROMs. Maybe you mean 2nd-boot?
[Milestone XT720 General] Vistaus:
Yeah, maybe that's what I meant. They use that already on for example the Defy to boot custom kernels including Cynanogenmod.
[Milestone XT720 General] Knoedelkopf:
is the camera not working on xt701 or won't it work if we flash it to our x720?
[Milestone XT720 General] Vistaus:
It's not working on XT701. Flashing it on the XT720 results in a bootloop.
[Milestone XT720 General] stampeede:
that means no change to put CM6 to my xt720?
[Milestone XT720 General] Vistaus:
Nope. But the CM7-port is going very well. See the topic in this subforum. So we should have CM7 on our XT720 very soon.
[Milestone XT720 General] Zachary57:
Does it will improve camera framerate ?
[Milestone XT720 General] Knoedelkopf:
cm7 on xt720 with everything working (including cam and so on)??
[Milestone XT720 General] Vistaus:
@Zachary and Knoedelkopf: How will I know? It's in dev. It's almost bootable now and when it boots, we'll see what works and what not and what we can fix.
[Milestone XT720 General] eejin2:
cant find it... but i remembered reading one of the more "pro" members saying something about working on the cm7 port. still on?

edit: saw the post, thanks. OMG I CANT WAIT FOR CM7! i prefer the more stock looking roms. was excited about miui but after i installed it i found that it wasn't to my liking.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The-Kevster:
Will any of the programs from 3.1 install on 3.0 such as browser.apk. I presume not otherwise someone would have done it by now. I just cant help thiking what if no one has tried...

Thanks,

Kev
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EP2008:
Considering that all the current honeycomb tablets have or will have 3.1 in the next few weeks, I don't think anyone is willing to put an effort into what you're asking.

I'm curious to see what the new browser is like on 3.1.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] bubblegumballoon:
Ive noticed alot of the newer versions tend to crash, what version of PSX4droid is the best for playing Final Fantasy 7? I tried FPse and it just has horrible sound problems. :(
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] BenKranged:
Its called FPSE
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] AndroHero:
FPse works awsome, you have to enable sound sync in audo options :D its disabled by default to speed up emulation on lower spec devices :)