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[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Buddyfunlove:
I like the simplicity...and I always liked the look of touchwiz, just hated the OMG GO FASTER! Solid theme, well done. :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] thelandon:
Thanks for the work you put into this. My only suggestion would be to get rid of the specific LG device name in the boot animation.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] TheMuffStuff:
It would take to long, if you dont like the boot just flash another one :)
[Droid Incredible General] renzo.olivares:
This Is A FAQ For Uber Kingdom By Me And Stock Kingdom By Incubus. Come Here Before Asking Questions In Our Threads.

Q: I Can't Log Into HTC HUB?

A: HTC HUB Is Currently Down For Maintenance

Q: My Lockscreen Won't Appear?

A: Wait For It To Appear It Will Eventually If it Doesn't Battery Pull

Q: My Rosie Is Looping?

A: It's A Bug Wait For It To Load If It Force Closes Or Doesn't Load After A While Do A Battery Pull

Q: My EMMC Isn't Mounting?

A: Bug We Are Working On it

Q: Weather App Closes?

A: Bug It Is Being Worked On

Q: After Installing An App In The Market My Rosie Loops?

A: When Updating/Installing An App, Hit Install/Update The App, Ok, And IMMEDIATELY Go Home. It Will Install Fine!

Q:Everything Looks Disproportionate Just A little?

A: This Was Ported From 540x960 To Our 480x800 Resolution Phone And We Resized Everything To Fit So It Will Look Like This

Q: Netflix Isn't Streaming?

A: It's A Bug It's Being Worked On

Q: I am Stuck At The Splash Screen After Flashing?

A: Make Sure You Are On HBOOT .92 and CWM3 And Wipe Data x3 Wipe Cache x3 Wipe Dalvik x3 Go Into Recovery>Mounts And Wipe Boot x3 And Wipe System x3 And Wipe Data x3 And Wipe Cache x3 Wipe SD-EXT x3...Then Flash The Rom Once And Then Once It's Done Flash The Rom Again..Then Once That's Done Reboot System And Hope It Boots

And Remember Guys It's In Beta/Alpha Phases Right Now So It's Bound To Have A Lot Of Bugs. I Will Update This Regularly.
[Droid Incredible General] renzo.olivares:
RESERVE.......
[Droid Incredible General] renzo.olivares:
reserve!!!!!
[Droid Incredible General] renzo.olivares:
One more..............
[Droid Incredible General] Smokeey:
Why did you capitalize every word? It really is my pet peve.
[Droid Incredible General] renzo.olivares:
its my pet peave when i dont do that lol look at all my ops for every one of my roms each word is capitalized lol
[Droid Incredible General] k_nivesout:
Hm, its my pet "peeve" when people can't spell. Also when people capitalize every word and type in run-on sentences with "lol" being every other phrase. :)

On topic: Why not just put this in the OP of the roms? Realistically, nobody is going to check here first.
[Droid Incredible General] Amphibliam:
Can you edit mine? I had a brain fart. It was supposed to say:

When updating or installing an app, Hit Install/Update, Ok, And IMMEDIATELY Go Home. It Will Install Fine!

Thanks.
[Droid Incredible General] renzo.olivares:
Updated....
[Droid Incredible General] renzo.olivares:
Well they should check here first i alos put the link in my OP
[Droid Incredible General] jfrank91:
Force close?

Infinite force-close loop after getting off of the lock screen.

Camera, messages, mail and phone all work fine but HTC sense keeps force closing...

Suggestions?
[Droid Incredible General] kLownish:
Getting a FC on settings when I try and change the weather settings (turn off the sounds). I've rebooted twice, installed exactly how you said to. I am also getting all the weather information correctly, so that's a plus. Other than that, great working/looking rom, and very fast too. Thanks for taking the time to work on this. After doing more research it is ONLY on the weather settings. Everything else that has to do with weather works fine for me, but only when I try and change anything in the weather settings does this occur.
[Desire HD General] LeeDroid:
Just thought I would dive in and drop a link for anyone that is yet to comment..

And yes, it does belong in the dev section ;)

http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084

Sent from my LeeDrOID loaded Desire HD
[Desire HD General] motoman234:
My personal opinion is, I don't think they will go through with it. HTC has always been the number one developers phone for the longest time and they'll probably realize that before releasing a phone with a locked bootloader. I'm just saying if they did, I have NO idea what I would do. I can't stand any other manufacturers way of creating phones so I guess I'd be chillin with my Inspire till someone cracked one of the nicer/newer HTC phones. what would you do? I can't EVER see myself using a stock phone just to stay up to date on phone releases.
[Desire HD General] tingardz:
This is bad....

Evo 3D to have locked-down bootloader

I hope this is old news
[Desire HD General] Nick281051:
honestly the galaxy s2(or variants of it) woould be my next choices, samsung is starting to pump out some nice phones. i still love htc more though. a locked bootloader= no deal for me
[Desire HD General] ToneyEricsson:
Nice one - Sony Ericsson made that announcement not long ago about opening the boot loader which made them very popular in the se world and now htc are doing it.

Its obviously just to be popular with consumers. Good news for htc :)
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
I just have a hint they will lift the locking of those boot loaders though I might still be sticking to the good old Sense UI whether it's locked or unlocked.
[Desire HD General] motoman234:
The phones themselves aren't bad, its the being stuck to AOSP or TouchWiz that's a deal breaker for me. I had a Vibrant and got rid of it within a week of buying it due to being bored. That's just my opinion though, once your use to Sense, you can never go back. Especially since official Sense 3.0 is around the corner. If the Sensation isn't locked down then it'll be mine :).
[Desire HD General] kalagas:
I had a milestone before... So I know well the bootloader lock policy...

At least HTC listen to their customers...

I think they will change the bootloader lock policy cause they are smart guys and they know that there are many many people who buy HTC cause they like the freedom of unlocked bootloader...

Sent from my DesireHD with Mixed_Theme
[Desire HD General] io53:
Good. I had almost lost my hope of ever buying an Htc phone again.
[Desire HD General] tangcla:
I wonder if it's a publicity stunt.

Hoping that the net effect of (announcing the locking of bootloader) + (announcing the unlocking of bootloader) = more fanbois (or fangurls).
[Desire HD General] Diamondback:
Well, they already released some devices with locked bootloaders as the Thunderbolt or the Incredible S. Cracking the Thunderbolt was pure luck, Incredible is not yet cracked.

So, if they decide to KEEP the locked loader, i'm done with htc... Sad but true :(

I really like their phones but without the community they are nothing...
[Desire HD General] twiztedvvv:
I can't see why HTC would go in the opposite direction to SE. Will not buy another HTC if this happens. I'll get a SE instead.

:)
[Desire HD General] zachs_xda:
It'll be their own peril for going against the community.

Everyone knows a geek or two these days... And guess who people turn to when they want to buy a phone?
[Desire HD General] NeoS:
I'm sorry, did you "develop" their decision to think on their bootloader policy?

I believe this doesn't belong in development, as it isn't a development thread. However, I believe it is an IMPORTANT piece of info, it still doens't belong here.

Moved to General.
[Desire HD General] PartTimeLegend:
Handsets are subsidized. They have applications like amazon mp3 and sound hound for a reason.

Your carrier will edit the build with their own features and limitations.

The locked bootloader preserves these changes. An unlocked bootloader does not.

The sway of the modding community is minimal compared to the networks and people who pay for their software to be bundled.

if we see the end of locked bootloaders, then we will likely see an increase in purchase costs.
[Desire HD General] dr.m0x:
Most users don't root and install custom roms, remove system apps, etc even though they often have handsets with which they can. For this reason I fail to understand what point you are trying to make. Most people just use their phone out of the box for 2-3 years or more.

Enthusiasts on the other hand will often upgrade annually as finance permits because of our love and passion for new technology. We are often the early adopters and we are the ones who end up paying the higher initial price on new products. This translates to frequent repeat sales at higher margin for the manufacturer.

Even though we are a small subset of the community, the value of our business is disproportionately high. We are the ones who care about unlocked bootloaders, not joe average who upgrades every 3 years to a model which is already several months old. If Htc doesn't want our business it is their choice, we will vote with our wallets and buy SE, Samsung or something else we can hack.

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Sent from my Leedroid Gingerbread love machine.
[Desire HD General] Diamondback:
I would not even use such provider specific software. So they can't loose money when i install a custom ROM.
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
First of all I should say that I see your point in the reasons of locking the bootloader. But the people who want unlocked bootloaders will most likely go with another manufacturer and the software companies that subsidize the phones will make no provit from those people no matter what. Carriers subsidize also the open bootloader phones, so it seems that this issue doesn't matter to them too much. The truth is that compared to all the people who buy phones, those who actually use the unlocked bootloader are very small percentage. Like with the iPhone and jailbreaking. So the decision of whether to lock the bootloader or not is purely a "political" one.

I think that the best solution is to ship the phones with locked bootloaders and to provide an unlocking tool which will void irreversibly the warranty and support, which HTC have every right to do as once unlocked you can install potentially damaging kernels e.g. overclocking to unreasonable frequencies and they can decline supporting software that's not their own.
[Desire HD General] ToneyEricsson:
Have you guys seen how much agro HTC get on their Facebook page its hilarious.

Of course its a publicity stunt, they don't want to have a bad name with consumers. Sony Ericsson made the same annoucement last month which gave them a good name.
[Desire HD General] DoeBoi:
a petition has already gone up

http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
[Desire HD General] PartTimeLegend:
I simply believe that the unlocking is a wise PR move, but a poor commercial one.

The handset that you bought outright you wouldn't mind an extra cost. I also appreciate there are manufacturers who do not lock theirs.

I recently rooted a galaxy s and was shocked at the complete lack of protection.

With malware such as dream droid entering the market, a read locked system partition is a wise move (it is called security for a reason).

My honest opinion is that locked or unlocked, the community will still exist and will just overcome any protection they might put in place.

There is no phone that cannot be unlocked afaik. Many require hardware as physical access to a device almost guarantees it can be hacked.

I got my phone, not because I wanted root and custom rom builds, but for sense ui. I love having the opportunity to tinker with the innards, as I have with every other phone I can recall.

The stronger the lock, the more cunning the lock pick.
[Desire HD General] robE9:
Nobody is forcing nobody to install custom roms or root, you can stay on stock rom if you want "security", this choice should be taken by the user not by HTC .
[Desire HD General] nexy33:
yeah but from a manufacturers point of view how many people will try and return bricked handsets under warranty for repair on the offchance. by locking its 1 less avenue for people to break things.. this is not my view i think locking blows but its just a view
[Desire HD General] ZeDestructor:
Make it only unlockable using a Device-vendor provided unlocking tool?

People who unlock will usually be able to restore, and understand the risks, so the point is moot.

As for me, I want the latest build of stock Android, but Google doesn't have a Tegra 2/Exynos/OMAP4/Qualcomm 86xx yet, so I don't have much choice. Plus after paying around with different firmwares on a friends Notion Ink Adam, I like the Idea of customising FirmWare and may even get into it myself given that I now have some experience in programming.
[Desire HD General] Hawks556:
From XDA frontpage:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/failure-to-launch-htcs-bootloader-policy/

Doesn't really help if they unlock the bootloader but lock everything else :p
[Desire HD General] mesut19:
So what exactly changes when they decide to remove the locker of the bootloader?

you dont need to do S-off/Eng-off and stuff like that or is it something else?
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
We all want to be able to install custom ROMs on our devices (this is XDA's forum after all) but manufacturers want to be able to decline warranty services for devices damaged by software not being their own. So the simplest solution is to make a hardware 'rooting indicator' that is triggered once the device has been rooted and being hardware can't be switched back. That way anyone rooting his expensive device for which he paid his own money to buy will willingly void the warranty. That way users will be happy because they can choose what to do with their own devices and HTC will be happy too because they will no longer have an obligation to support/repair the rooted devices.
[Desire HD General] abhishekagrawal:
Acoording to HTC Facebook page, here is the statement of their CEO, Peter Chou on locked Bootloaders-

‎"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC.

Link- https://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
[Desire HD General] ZeDestructor:
I disagree. All you need is a good recovery system that doesn't fail. Software is software. If you installed a bad ROM, it should be fixable using a simple flash. Overclocking on the other hand is an entirely different issue, but ROM modding is fixable by flashing back a good ROM. I bricked my 2day old Nexus S yesterday, AND debricked it by flashing stock firmware. Sure, the store would have considered my warranty void, but I still fixed it at no cost, with no adverse repercussions. Like I said, a better restore system would have been better: flashing Nexus S 4G FW on Nexus S GSM is NOT a good idea and will refuse all further flashes unless you disable the asserts in the flashscript. Something I doubt the average modding newb would be able to do the first time
[Desire HD General] makec3rt:
This is great news, but still they need to lower the price. I wan't to buy a tablet, but HTC Flyer is too expensive compare to features and software, hardware-wise.
[HTC Inspire 4G] LeeDroid:
Just thought I would dive in and drop a link for anyone that is yet to comment..

And yes, it does belong in the dev section ;)

http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084

Sent from my LeeDrOID loaded Desire HD
[HTC Inspire 4G] Chrisj7:
SO what does this imply
[HTC Inspire 4G] LeeDroid:
If they lock them down.. its the end of custom roms and kernels on HTC devices

Sent from my LeeDrOID loaded Desire HD
[HTC Inspire 4G] wdkingery:
the facebook post is so generic, and definitely unconvincing
[HTC Inspire 4G] S.Reno9:
But isn't that what expert dev's like your self do....find ways to unlock things:D Isn't everything hackable eventually.....!!!
[HTC Inspire 4G] aostl:
At least they didn't say f@%k you to us like MOTO did
[HTC Inspire 4G] enron2885:
If the boot loader gets locked its not impossible to flash custom roms. I'm sure the DEVs here can find a work around. I came from a Sony X10 and the boot loader is locked on that device. The DEV's in the X10 forum were able to get a working CWM to flash different rom's, themes, etc. It would be challenging, but very doable..
[HTC Inspire 4G] Gene Poole:
Well the public key encryption used for signing can be theoretically broken but it takes centuries of brute force. More likely, someone will find a way to bypass the signature checking in the hardware somehow. You only have to flip one bit to make a "if x ..." turn into a "if not x ...", you just have to find the right place and a way to flip it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Duffman14:
It definitely puts a downer on devs willing to work with the phone...
[HTC Inspire 4G] boomerod:
Definitely something they should leave alone. Although HTC clearly knows how to make great mobile devices (in contrast to Samsung, for instance; Sense is light years better than that RFS Touchwiz crap) it's not smart to try to shackle the Android dev community. They will loose market share if they lock the bootloaders.
[HTC Inspire 4G] cordell507:
HTC already locks the bootloaders on all their devices but this is referring to HTC reviewing if they are going to start unlocking them again or not
[HTC Inspire 4G] boomerod:
Ah, kinda what I thought till I read this post. So, I'll say that it would be better for them to unlock bootloaders. :-)
[HTC Inspire 4G] lrs421:
When I saw this on android central it seemed to imply to opposite. In response to outcries over the locked bootloaders on the EVO 3D they were considering unlocked them.

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-were-reviewing-our-bootloader-policy

HTC's statement:

"Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback."
[HTC Inspire 4G] Nickovtyme:
I figure if from now on if all phones are locked down...I'll just stick with what I have so I can keep modding them.

So far the Inspire has been a great phone and my Streak is definately in great shape.

Soon as DJ Steve ports over Honeycomb for the Streak 5...it'll be as good as any out there on the market. Maybe not as fast, but will do the job.
[HTC Inspire 4G] wdkingery:
that's what i was thinkin i might just get off the train at the inspire and be done with it
[HTC Inspire 4G] TheBassman369:
Lol at the third comment. "What are boot loaders!" Lol
[HTC Inspire 4G] thekurrgan:
There must be pressure from the 3rd party software contributors to ensure their product is forced on and STAYS on the phone.. I can see no reason else for the locked bootloader.. HTC's are extremely difficult to perm-brick, and with RUU's available they are easily fixable.. If they where open about it, put some damned documentation with it and a failsafe return method, they wouldnt have to worry about warranty issues, and even if it did it MUST be a more expensive proposition to create or license a method of locking the bootloader that wont be defeated in 10 minutes.. not to mention the hit they would take on revenue even if it is only around 2-5%...

I guess its all about the advertising dollars and who pays who..

sickening really..

Hail the AOSP builds...
[HTC Inspire 4G] Nickovtyme:
Cell providers don't want me/you deleting their apps or enabling features on your/my device without paying...tethering for example. It's a numbers game and to them its just business.

They care less about battery life, they want you to buy aftermarket batts from them. they want you/me to pay for every kb/mb/gb we use.

That's the bottom line.

Aside from all that...they don't want it getting out just how crappy their product is. Unless your Motorola.
[HTC Inspire 4G] PeartFan40:
???

Not sure what this post is suppose to prove. The statement by HTC only states they are looking into the situation concerning the bootloader policy, but doesn't specify what their intentions are. A generic statement at best. For all we know, this could be just another Fakebook post. Until I hear or see an official statement, I'm taking this with a grain of salt.

BTW, I've seen no posts on my Facebook by HTC about this...just sayin...
[HTC Inspire 4G] Nick281051:
if they start locking down the bootloaders i WILL go to samsung, as much as i love htc
[HTC Inspire 4G] madindehead:
It's been posted as a note on the HTC Facebook page and on the HTC Twitter account. If you can't see it, I suggest you look again. You should see the amount of comments asking for unlocked bootloaders.

The way I see it is this: HTC could have not said anything about it. If they didn't plan to change policy, posting nothing wouldn't do them any harm.

However, posting about a potential change in policy, and doing nothing about it, will result in a bigger backlash. It's already bad enough, so I don't see them doing that.

They can take this as a huge PR win of "look, we listen to what our customers want". I for one am reasonably optimistic about it. And if not, I will probably sell my Sensation.
[HTC Inspire 4G] attn1:
No, not everything is hackable eventually. Not practically so. If HTC continues on their current course, HTC devices will not be opened for custom ROMs until well after the device is relevant, if ever.

HTC has been locking bootloaders for a while now, but we've been able to unlock them. What is changed is that they have taken steps to insure that we cannot unlock them - and if they are bent on this, they have demonstrated that they can succeed.
[HTC Inspire 4G] wdkingery:
that is an answer from someone that knows. that is the reality of what is going on here.

sad situation really.
[HTC Inspire 4G] poontab:
"Information is secure when it costs more to get than it's worth." Poulsen's Law
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
This makes a lot of sense. Let's hope your assessment of the situation is accurate.

Inspired Ace 1.0.1¦ XDA Premium
[HTC Inspire 4G] mudknot2005:
things might not change right away, but I see them changing eventually. think about how much money HTC will loose if the continue locking bootloaders, from the dev community alone (world wide). Not thousands or hundreds of thousands, but millions of dollars. That will in turn cause HTC stock to drop, and so on.

They don't have much of a choice, fix the problem, or loose millions of dollars. Think about it if say a 1,000 inspire users (in America) say I am not going to buy an htc phone because they have locked the phone down. And if they are charging 500 dollars for a phone that is half a million alone, that is not including all the other htc devices that are spread around the world.

I don't see it lasting.
[HTC Inspire 4G] boomerod:
I've done more research and now I understand a little better. These guys make awesome phones and their Sense overlay is my personal favorite as overlays go. There are a few things I would change on my Inspire including adding a Notification setting for each email account and better volume and power buttons. Aside from that (so far - still exploring my new Inspire), I love the experience I'm getting on this phone. Of course, coming from a Samsung Captivate, it's not hard to see why. But I will give Samsung props on this: their bootloaders are not locked and the phones are easy to root and mod. The Inspire was a bit challenging for me compared to the Captivate, but could have been much worse had I got this phone 3 months ago.

Perhaps HTC will find a compromise; if they need to keep locking the bootloaders to satisfy advertisers and carriers, they could quietly make it not too hard to unlock them. I guess we'll see...
[HTC Inspire 4G] edgie168:
I think you're over-estimating the amount of people who actually unlock/hack their phones.