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[Streak 5 General] streakflyer:
Yea man sweet looking phone be good to have that on the north american side of the pond, be better if dell beat those specs though a qhd screen quad core 1.2ghz 16g internal with 32g expansion betterusic player with a bloody good equalizer an 5.1 dolby etc, then again asus has a thing going on, no specs or good pics of it just snap shoots of ramdom parts of the device with a slogan breaking the rules pad or phone be anonnced at the end of the month if it beats the streak im moving on to the dark side
[Streak 5 General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Holy run-on sentence Batman. That just made my eyes bleed. :(
[Streak 5 General] Deleted member 3105162:
periods are for girls (pun!), any true man doesnt use them.

On Topic, I'm really hoping the asus thing is a 5" phone and not an atrix-like device like some are speculating. I really like asus' products and a 5" phone from them would be perfection.
[Streak 5 General] chrisrotolo:
will this have US compatible bands? or we will have to wait for US version.
[Streak 5 General] marquez7890:
it looks like its going to be like the atrix

http://www.netbooknews.com/26404/as...t-hybrid-at-computex-2011-with-mockup-photos/
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan2202:
Is there any way to turn off the screen while recording video?

Is there any way to remap the power button as the shutter when taking photos?

I know some other Android phones have apps and mods but I havent found anything for the EVO.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sitlet:
I dont think so, but there are apps in the Market that allow recording with the screen off.

Power button, no. There are ways to use the volume keys or the search button, however they require root and a custom rom.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GrimReaper24:
Lmao sounds like your trying to make a dirty video candid style . :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OstrichSak:
That was my first thought too.

I too would like something to make my volume buttons a shutter button when the camera is activated. Self pics are a nightmare when you have to try to push the screen when it's turned away from you. I'm rooted running Chogardjr v3.12 on an Evo 4G if it matters.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan2202:
Not everyone on this board acts like a two year old in the real world.

I actually use the phone to log track sessions on a dashboard mount in my car. The video screen always on can be distracting.

The shutter button is a no brainer. The touch screen button is a PITA to use since you have to hold the camera a certain way to take any picture.

Thanks for your lack of help, Ill search around for some apps.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] ares93:
So i got another BA from a friend the other day. (Now i have two broken german BA's. *Sigh* at least my UK Blueangel works...) However this one actually shows signs of life.

It attempts to boot, but crashes halfway through. The rom is the german T-Mobile version 1.22.01 if i remember correctly.

The bootloader mode is a bit icky but it works.

Now is there any chance to get this one running? i tried flashing it, but the computer doesnt find the device. neither does the flash program. however it also claims its the wrong program for the device. and it doesnt find my working BA either...

German HTC Blueangel (MDAIII) PH20B

R 1.06.00

G 1337.38

D 1.22.01

EDIT: It does not charge either.
[EVO 4G General] spencer88:
This was posted in the EVO 3D section...

http://dev.androidpolice.com/2011/05...l-locked-down/

Definitely a no-go for me.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Yea I just saw that. I was already leaning towards the SGS2 but now my mind is pretty much made up.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Why didn't you leave it there. It was posted there for a reason.
[EVO 4G General] spencer88:
Maybe in case people don't read the EVO 3D section?

Please refrain from making stupid comments like that in the future.
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
The bootloaders are always locked, it's the fact that the 3d's is encrypted.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
It was moved from here to start with genius

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] Buff McBigstuff:
Petition HTC to stop locking down their phones.

http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
[EVO 4G General] Jjday7:
Just another sign of where HTC is going. I still like my EVO so ill stick with what I know.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Lol.................

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Yea lol. That thread was here originally and was moved. The 3D is now lame tho...no way am I getting it.

sent from somewhere using something ...
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
Well im keeping my nexus s and going to wait for the gs2 to come. I feel bad for the people who preordered this. No evo3d for me. The nexus may have radio issues but at least it will be fixed soon. I dont like the route htc is going.
[EVO 4G General] asmd6230:
not htcs fault. Its not a buffet, but a made to order device specifically for sprint. sprint cooked up the ingredients list including cyphering the bootloader.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
How bad is the radio issues

??

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] CruzECO13:
Our Evo's are still beasts!! I'll wait for the rumored Nexus3!!

Sent from my EVO 4G - CM7 (Nightlies)
[EVO 4G General] m3Jorge:
Non-Issue

you guys do realize that even the Evo 4G had a locked boot loader right?

It being locked doesn't make it unlockable, the issue would be if it was encrypted, which it is not. Thunderbolt was locked too and now it is unlockable... just give the xda-devs some time and they will unlock it for us.

This is a BIG misconception and something that keeps getting reported as a big issue when in reality is not as big a deal as it is being made to be.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
FWIW, I haven't noticed anything. I get the usual crappy 200-500 kbps on 3G and up to 8 on 4G.
[EVO 4G General] Jjday7:
Why is everyone saying they are going to the GSII. What if that is locked. Sprint is the one requesting this not HTC. Notice verizon was the first to do it and now sprint followed. This is the direction the market is going in general. I know this is not fact because I don't personally know but this is a sign that this is where things are going. Tmobile is also getting a locked phone.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
Thunderbolt people got luck period. Droidx is still locked.

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Probably because its already been confirmed that the SGSII isnt locked.
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
The international version is unlocked... We have no idea if the U.S. carriers will want it locked. I doubt it, but it is possible.
[EVO 4G General] Jjday7:
Didn't we go back and forth about the Evo 3d being unlocked when the leaked rom was taken apart. Then all of a sudden it's locked down. Not questioning what your saying but when the carrier gets their hands on it, things may change last minute.

Carriers don't want to be fixing bricked phones due to root and things that should have never been put on the phone.

I am all about root and will stick with the Evo so I still have options but I do understand the reasoning behind it. I don't personally agree with it but this is a business decision.
[EVO 4G General] boliviano3:
Yes the EVO did but the 3D has a Signed bootloader, that's different. Every time you turn on the phone it'll check for the signatures on the bootloader, recovery, & kernel, if it doesn't find them it won't boot. I think you have BIG misconception of how they obtained perm root on the Thunderbolt. It was b/c an old engineering image was leaked for it, what are the chances we're that lucky w/ the 3D? I'm not saying it'll be impossible to obtain perm root but I rather not bother & just wait for something else like perhaps the Nexus 3 or SGS2
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I don't think its Sprints doing. You can tell that HTC wants to be similar to Apple. They want integrated experiences with their hardware and services. I work in media and trust me, companies push for branding to the death. I predicted that OEM customization of Android would eventually lead to this.
[EVO 4G General] kthejoker20:
Locked down or not it doesn't matter.

As long as one has physical access to the phone, it is unlockable.

I'm not letting that stop me from getting it. I'm confident the radio willl be hacked.

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[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Good luck. But seriously, anyone who needs a flashable phone should not get it until its done.
[EVO 4G General] aph:
Waiting for a reputable dev to chime in on this before jumping to any conclusions.
[EVO 4G General] :
If its encrypted you'd be screwed because you would have to break the encryption to find what's underneath it. If its signed fond s way to dupe the signature. But then again you'd have so many issues with that its not even funny. Besides the fact a lot of people ate going to go towards encryption a lot of this simply its very hard to get passed encryption. Either guess the password or brute force it. Whether the evo 3d is locked down and encrypted will still be. Matter of time. Not if but time. It could take a year or more. And dedication,

Or get a engineer from HTC to pass along some info as you pass him 10k
[EVO 4G General] m3Jorge:
Droid X was unlocked, however Motorola not only locked it but added a fail safe that then re-locks it... of course I am over simplifying here, so the issue there is that unlocking it would render it pretty much useless, but that is ONLY a Motorola practice thus far...

HTC is known for just using S-on S-off flag, which is more hackable shall we say.

Not saying it is a good thing but just pointing out that is no different than even our current EVO 4G so not sure why people are over reacting to it...

The question is not whether it is locked or not but how difficult it seems to be to remove said lock... locked down boot loaders has ALWAYS been the initial hurdle to get past...

One thing we DO know to be a fact is that ENCRYPTED boot loaders which is Motorola's current practice is simply not a challenges that any one has gotten past... so we have the lesser of the two evils in the 3D and have a "REASONABLE" shot and getting it unlocked...

Lastly Samsung Galaxy S also has a locked boot loader, it was unlocked but it was locked down to beging with so this it NOT something new... Encryption and additional LOCK validation/fail-safe (i.e. Motorola only thus far) are the only methods that have yet to get hacked...
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
Its not horrid but it does cause battery drain. They are working on a ota fix. Other than that the phone is great, much faster than the evo. We even have cm7 and decks aosp rom now. Also working on a port of amon recovery currently. Netarch also makes the kernels. Id say you would like the phone.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
i toyed with one at the sprint store its fast i was surprised just hate to loose my 16 gig class 10 card lol
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
Its there trust me.
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
For those of you who missed this:

Galaxy S II Review
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Um, evolution 3d bootloader and kernel are signed, and signatures are encrypted with 256 bit encryption. Did you read the article?
[EVO 4G General] piscesjoey:
Get the Nexus S & sell me ur card LOL, on topic though, I seen this coming when I heard that the Sensation was also going to be locked down. Sad day for us HTC lovers, but I also can't blame them from a business standpoint. I can imagine how many phones come back to HTC or the carriers cuz a noob or someone who was too lazy to read messes up their phone by flashing the wrong thing on it.

EVO on Tapatalk
[EVO 4G General] DrRyder:
Can't read the link in the OP because it's invalid. It's opening the shortened version of the link and I'm being asked for credentials.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
looks like the site or info has been removed lol
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Wonder why lol
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
This phone needs to be locked. End of story.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] m3Jorge:
Well I humbly stand corrected... I was unable to access the article based on the link provided, but have since caught up to the news...

The issues is not that the boot loader is locked is that they have signed the system and kernel partitions (i.e. Droid X fail safe) which means unless ENG boot loader leaks then yeah we are SOL... sorry my bad!!
[EVO 4G General] Stalte:
Ummmmm WHY?!?!?!
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Lol that guy likes negative things .
[EVO 4G General] Stalte:
In that case he should go play with his stock Droid X, cancel his XDA account and try to forget what root means. Because we look to progress not failure.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Oh yeah I love negative things :rolls eyes: I think htc, google, Samsung, moto, and whomever else need to stop the fragmentation and lock this **** down. Im sick of having to jump through hoops just to achieve the "best experience" when it should be that way out the box. Its getting old.....flame if you want but im bored and tired if it. I personally could care less for custom roms just give me the ability to remove bloatware and im happy. I could care less about overclocking/undervolting on a dual core phone.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] jonathan413:
yeah i wont be getting the evo3d because rooting is what HTC phones was about but oh well..here i come samsung galaxy s 2(whenever you come out) lol
[EVO 4G General] plmiller0905:
Here it is:

http://phandroid.com/2011/05/24/evo-3d-features-same-locked-bootloader-as-htc-sensation/
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
I want the galaxy s 2 also, or maybe something else. My upgrade isn't until August this year so im hoping something better than the evo 3D is out.

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[EVO 4G General] jonathan413:
lmao lets get universal studios on it right away lmao
[EVO 4G General] jonathan413:
yeah ill probably play the wait game and see what comes out later this year
[EVO 4G General] kthejoker20:
It doesn't matter if it is encrypted.

that is actually a good thing.

Then you won't see noobs trying to root and asking stupid questions, like how to tether their PS3 or Xbox, and then wonder why carriers boot lock them in the first place.

.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
No big deal. That link got shut down pretty quick. I agree about the Eng boot loader, too. I was already planning on holding out till next year...at this rate, I may be switching manufacturers when I do buy. I'm hoping the next Nexus comes to sprint sooner, rather than later. I have a feeling that, with the pace our hardware is advancing, the new nexus isn't all that far out. No way Google spends all that time and effort on dual core and multi-threading and then doesn't have a handset that takes advantage of it. Just IMHO, of course.
[EVO 4G General] :
After hearing this I think I'll hold on to my Evo a little longer. I'm still waiting to hear back from Sprint CS regarding the 'one-time courtesy upgrade' anyway. Lets hope the Nexus 3 comes to Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
That's your opinion and that's fine. Other will disagree, no big deal.

Locking it down does nothing for the fragmentation/jumping through hoops for the optimal experience. In fact, it does the opposite. Rooting is an option, nobody is forcing you to do it if you prefer that "out of box" experience.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
You have no idea what you are talking about. Custom roms aren't what causes fragmentation. Fragmentation is caused by having many devices running different, not-totally-compatible versions of the same OS, like having brand new devices coming out with everything from donut to gingerbred (an exaggeration, I know). With fragmentation, the problem is with manufacturers, not the end users. Companies put out phones with out if date software, or worse, hardware that isn't up to running the software they put it on. This makes the entire OS look bad, and causes headaches for app developers who get bombarded with folks having trouble with their products, because of crappy hardware. Then you have the issues with manufacturers skinning the OS, and failing to give prompt updates. There is no reason for the phones to be locked. You can not provide one example of something that will be directly improved because the phones are locked. Would your experience with the evo have been better with a locked bootloader? Of course not. You say you are bored of flashing...so stop. Having an unlocked bootloader doesn't mean you HAVE to flash. None of your argument makes any logical sense. There is so much more to rooting than overclocking and undervolting, neither of which I even mess with anymore. Besides, it boils down to the fact that this is MY computer (that happens to make phone calls), and no one would put up with Microsoft not giving them admin rights, so why should we put up with it from HTC?
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
You are right!
[EVO 4G General] curl2k1:
Well, get yourself an iPhone and GTFO
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
1. Im very aware what fragmentation is lol, Im in favor of one unified os like iOS. I was simply just saying from a nutshell what I'd like. I really didn't feel like typing a huge response from my phone and should have elaborated more. I said htc, google, Samsung, moto whomever need to get it together and lets get this os on the road. I simply root my phone just to remove bloatware (for the most part). 2. Reason I said they should lock bootloaders because im assuming if they're all locked maybe fragmentation would slowly disappear and we wont need to root to find features that should be out the box. Its my opinion and I know each flavor of android had its flaws, but it just needs to come to an end. I don't care if the bootloader is locked or not, if I had a galaxy s 2 or evo 3D rooting would be useless (for me).

Where did I say custom roms cause fragmentation? Oh yeah I didn't.....

And if sprint gets the iPhone 5 your damn right ill stfu and get out. :-)

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] sog1971:
Do not have the patience to sign up for the other forums that are discussing this tidbit as we speak, so I will let out my feelings on this forum.

To all of the UN-informed people out there on other tech forums who are clamoring that only "pirates" who want to steal software would want to root their phones....I again ask them to please check the top 10 paid apps on the appstore; most of them require root. So I would say plenty of money has been spent buying apps for rooted phones. (Not that one would need a rooted phone to sideload apps....but that little check box to allow sideloaded content may be the next thing to go if they really want to turn Android into Apple.)

As for HTC and Sprint whomever is at fault for this decision -- not good.
[EVO 4G General] k2buckley:
You said the only reason you root is to remove bloatware. Do you think that the Evo 3d and SGSII are going to be 'free of bloatware?' Why would rooting be useless to you if you had those phones? They'd still be loaded up with sprint bloat and who knows what else. Rooting would allow you to get rid of all that and strip it down. Having the stuff locked down isn't going to stop fragmentation. Having the manufactureres and carriers collaborate and release all new phones with the same version of Android would stop fragmentation. Having hardware requirements would stop fragmentation. It's crappy phones with crappy hardware running an old version of Android that cause the problem. Locking stuff down does nothing to fix that. They will still release some lower quality, crappy hardware, and old version of Android phones I'm sure. I don't want anything to be locked, ever. And I do not think that locking phones down will solve any issues with fragmentation whatsoever. Just my opinion though.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Being able to remove bloatware should be out the box, if its not im sure I wont die. Ill just use a different launcher and hide them. End of discussion for me. Locked or not ill still have a new phone and im sure I won't ***** about it. Ehh what does *****ing do....

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] curl2k1:
What I think we need is for google to set hardware requirements, much like how microsoft does with direct x. Kinda arbitrary, I know, and I'm not sure how much more they can do since the carriers seem hellbent on selling whatever they want... But it would be a start
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Biggest thing is gonna be no custom kernels to improve the crap battery life. So its going to be basically deal with having to carry a charger around, a spare battery or disabling half the features of the phone.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Um, enough people *****ing to the company will get the changes made. Look at Motorola's reversal on this very subject. Hell, Sony has published the instructions for rooting your device, AND instructions on creating your own custom kernel...THAT is embracing the dev community. If enough of us write HTC and SPRINT, they will change their stance. Why? Because geeks set tech trends and geeks write the phone reviews.
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Ehh *****in is the only thing u are doing so please feel free to leave xda buy your self a iPhone and leave us thanks. We have more important matters to attend to. Then listen to your negativity.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
it does? since when? :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
I will sign the petition and will do it again just because I simply love the "community" as gay as that sounds. I respect Sony for embracing the dev community and other manufacturers that do the same. Having a locked bootloader just isn't enough for me to say I wont buy these dual core phones.

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[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
petitions don't work! htc's stance will be, you don't like it?.... get a different phone. were only a small % of people who root and install custom roms, most just run it stock.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
ill also add too all of those who were and are putting down the nexus s 4g for the evo3d... you just got owned today! :eek:

feel sorry for all of those who preordered or already payed for it.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Im not asking you to respond to my post but you insist on doing so (twice). Obviously whatever you're doing isn't important enough to ignore my comments :rolls eyes:

Lol @ you thinking I actually give a **** what you have to say.......

Amateur.

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[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
I know they don't work but that's what these guys want to hear :rolls eyes: lol

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[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
yeah, they should go suck on their pacifiers now. ;)
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
The most recent time that I can think of is Motorola's decision that their future devices will have unlocked bootloaders, a decision which was based directly on input from their customers.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
the key is "future" devices... the current ones are still locked tighter than a virgin on prom night.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
How many petitions have there been about the iphone since 2007? A **** load would be the correct unit of measurement. Manufacturers don't care what the user wants, years later apple hasn't changed their policies; people sit back, stfu, and its still one of the most popular phones in the world. I only believe Sony is embracing the dev community because their phones simply don't sell; they figure they'd open/unlock the phones and maybe those garbage ass phones might make their way into some idiots hands who acts like a locked bootloader is a life or death situation.

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[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
You are right bro you are a noob after all :rolleyes: so keep things positive not negative .
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
ive always feared the day android might go closed source or start to lock users/devs out. if that happens you might as well buy an iphone.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Im a noob? Lol ok buddy, what are you 14 with freckles. Who says noob?

IPHONE 5 ON SPRINT FTW

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[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Well in the mean time someone might find there way through the encryption in due time. Feel bad for the people who pre ordered there's and are stuck with it.