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[T-Mobile LG G2x] zenstrom:
Let's be frank, the T-Mobile reps are unknowledgeable at best and flat out misleading at worst. I want to preface this by saying I've had absolutely no problems with my G2X and it's from early March. This includes no battery-drain issues (battery lasts around 20 hours with moderate use, which is fine with me), no GPS issues, no random freezes or reboots, and only minor light bleeding that doesn't bother me. I love this phone.

That being said, at least half of the people that bought this phone are having issues. If it's really going to be the end of Summer, T-Mobile really screwed the pooch here—and it is T-Mobile's fault, not LG's. Let me state this again, if you're pissed off at the G2X, complain to T-Mobile. The above thread outlines very clearly that LG knows there's an issue, has fixed the issue, and is being held from releasing said fix by T-Mobile trying to strategize a release date.

It's really obnoxious that people complain about LG being to blame for everything, when very likely T-Mobile rushed them into releasing a phone before they could iron all of the software bugs out just so they could claim to be the first carrier with a dual-core phone and is now holding up the release of very critical fixes.

That being said, if you're having issues with your G2X, instead of coming to xda-developers and complaining about it, hop on Twitter and let T-Mobile know you're pissed. Don't just threaten to bring the phone back: link to the LG thread and demand to know why they're preventing LG from releasing the patch. Even if you hate the phone and intend on returning it, there is clearly an issue with T-Mobile delaying the release of updates the phone manufacturers have ready and it's something they need to be told is unacceptable.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rauelius:
I've posted on T-mobile's Twitter about how the fix is available, but T-mobile refuses to release the patch. Lets spread the word and Hammer their twitter page with that information.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BlackAccord:
T-mobile rep here

you have a great point, it was most likely T-Mobile (NOT the reps) that rushed the release of it but does not mean LG isnt completely innocent either. So please if you do want to vent/complain about the phone do so by contacting "T-mobile" directly and not taking it out on the reps. As far as labeling the reps "unknowledgeable at best and flat out misleading at worst" does not go for ALL reps. I know im not the typical rep but i started out with smartphones a few years back with the Cingular 8525, flashing roms for a couple years now, I follow all the tech blogs and majoring in Electronics Engineering, currently in my senior year. In other words, I know my stuff. t-mobile tries their best to train us on most subjects but of course we are not Cellular phone engineers at the end of the day. Last time i checked my tittle was RETAIL SALES associates. so if you need help with buying the phone and some info/differences about the phone, that is why we are here. We dont have a direct communication line with the manufactures, so i dont know why people expect us to have all the answers. not trying to bash anyone just thought the reps should have a small voice in the matter :)

/rant
[T-Mobile LG G2x] TechFu:
Would you believe it.... I turned my Nexus One on to get it ready to sell it...and I just got and installed the ota for Gingerbread 2.3.4 LOL now if only for my G2x.....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] chompipe:
I think both Tmobile and LG are at fault for releasing a really buggy phone; hardware and software. Also, the only phones you can count on for getting updated are the Nexus phones. However, im happy with my G2x and coming from the more stable G2, i still enjoy using my G2x more. I have faith that several of the software issues will get fixed eventually. If not, give the cyanogen folks some time and im sure they will cook up a stable rom before the official gingerbread arrives.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
You all say blame tmo for pushing lg, but lg released the O2x and it also has the same basic issues right and that was released prior to the G2x.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] chompipe:
If they don't push the update out soon, I'm returning and getting myself a blackberry pearl flip phone. I'm jk. I heard the next google phone is going to be manufactured by LG? Will it be called the Nexus 2x? :p
[T-Mobile LG G2x] c_brown93:
Nexus 3 will be amazing. It comes out this December and will have Ice Cream Sandwhich (:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rauelius:
The biggest problem no one has pointed out....

This is basically confirmed to be a hardware/software issue, and it does basically affect all G2X phones one way or another. So how on earth are these issues never brought up in "professional" reviews. So this brings two disturbing facts. Tmo/LG cherry picked working phones for the reviewers and packed the failing phones in boxes for customers, or the reviewers were shills or they were lazy turned on the phone, saw it was basically a super-powered Nexus-ish phone, ran a couple Tegra games and just went by the specs for the review and never actually tested the phone. No matter what the case, it's disturbing. I'm on my 3rd g2x, and miss the stability of my Nexus One (I still have it, but really want the G2X to run at LEAST as well as my Nexus One.

Hell when I got this I was hoping to have a smooth experience with Live Wallpapers, but it was just slightly less "jerky" then on the Nexus One...I was sad...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
This is the most stable phone I've had and I've had many...

No reboot issues here, and I've had 3 different ones.. Phone never freezes, slows, reboots, lags etc....

Sorry you all are having bad experiences, but every phone forum has complaints and people claiming the phone is plagued with bugs..

Well, not me and I have had it since release....

I'm calling user error lol j/k but damn if yall just had my 3 different ones you would be in love..

Back to topic.. I hope yall get a update (i dont need it) so people can stop harping on this awesome phone...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
This post is begging for an answer....................................why did you have 3 devices and its so damn great?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Horsey:
I'm not holding my breath for the update anytime soon but does anyone know if this will fix the screen of death/battery pull issue? Are they related?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] nate420:
On stock 2.2.2 or the leaked gb problem's
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Lol.. Dont cry.... Scratched one, dust in other, new one.great.. all three great in the non freezing and rebooting department...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] schmit:
I didn't have a single lock-up until I went to a 2.3.3 ROM. And now I'm getting them... Sooo, I could just go back to stock and fix it.. but I don't want to to. I'd rather post another post about how my phone locks up. :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Profondo_Rosso:
I had reboots and was forced to do a factory reset 5 times until I started to flash nightlies. Now I get no reboots at all, though the battery issue is still unresolved...and I can't use wifi.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul, it appears.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] thephoneguyusa:
I would have to say that my unit has been amazing. I traded my nexus s for this current unit and I have flashed TW B2 rom before then and after no freezing, reboots, and it has light LDC bleed. The LCD thing dose not bother me and I can only expect the best for this device!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sarni84:
yea i have to say my device has been pretty good very light screen bleed had a couple of reboots but im almost positive it was a custom kernel dude this phone does everything i want n more should we have this update hell ****in yea i think its bull cuz it is a google phone rite.. idk i just think that they know for sure we have the probs with our phone they cant act like they didnt hear about get the ****in update out already look one guy just sd his nexus got ginger 2.3.4
[T-Mobile LG G2x] besthijacker:
Ehh. I do not have any problems with my phone at all. My battery life is amazing with moderate use and wifi on at all times and sometimes 4G. No locks up or freezes. Running both Feux rom and kernel... gps lock-on is nearly instant.

Lastly, I dont know what screen bleed is and wish not to know. Maybe I have myabe I dont but so far did not saw anything wrong yet. Screen-wise that is.

Manufactured date is 4/16. Its been running flawessly for two weeks now.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Alpha Class:
same here picked up two phones one with a 4/16 and just picked one up with a 4/28 date(both from costco)

no problems, and i'll be honest, i wouldn't have noticed the light bleed if i didnt see it mentioned here, infact the people i've given the phones to havent noticed anything at all. :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
I just got back from Tmo cause mine bricked. 8^O

I'm past my return warranty but told them it "just reset and didn't come back on".

I played dumb and said, "I've been having my phone reboot often, is that normal with these phones".

The guy said that it was a known issue and LG has a fix which they are going to couple with the gingerbread update. He said it was supposed to be out in May (as he used his fingers to make quote signs) but said it should be out by first part of summer.

He did say LG was aware of all the problems since they had the O2x out for months before the G2x (shame on them).

I did get my G2x working btw after they said they would ship me a replacement. So I'll compare the two and see which one I like better. Sending it back if it is a refurb.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Crazyeyes221:
The only problem I've had with my first and current G2X <333 is a wifi issue... If I log onto my work networks (wifi) I get out of range then it never is able to reconnect. It just stays at Obtaining IP.. other than that, the phone is great though lately, the battery needs to be charged twice in a day.. not too fun..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] hiko36:
That sounds exactly like what is on that LG forum.

Just to reiterate what is common knowledge, Tmo doesn't know anything we don't. The reps anyway. They're getting the same info we are.
[Xoom General] Nighte:
For a long time I didn't see a reason for me to purchase a tablet. The only use I can think of right now is for me to have more access to my files on a bigger screen via dropbox.

That said, I still reaaaaally want a Xoom, but it's not a good enough reason for me to drop $800+ (Xoom+accessories) since my phone can do the same thing, except on a smaller screen.

Yes, there is the multimedia portion; videos and whatnot but again, what else are tablets used for? I'm not an artist either so the drawing/sketching capabilities do not apply to me.

So hence my question, what do you guys use your tablets for?

Also, do phone applications work on tablets or do tablets have their own set of applications? How is the resolution of the apps if tablets can use the same apps that phones use?

Cheers!
[Xoom General] slack04:
I like this thing, but it's definitely a toy. If I hadn't gotten a great deal on it, I would have been disappointed. Functionality is not what I'd hoped, and browsing the internet is painful at best. I wouldn't dream of using it for serious work. In a few years these will be "useful," but for now it's still just a toy.
[Xoom General] gqstatus0685:
It seems like you have your mind made up. I use mines for:

Browsing

YouTube

Gaming

Emulators

Remote Desktop

Texting

Video Editing

Reference

School

Emailing

And a whole bunch of other things. I traded my iPad 2 for it and don't regret it one bit. More appps are coming to Android and are tablet friendly. You can run phone apps also. I haven't even rooted mines yet and if I did the list would be even bigger.
[Xoom General] gqstatus0685:
I will admit that text input is hella laggy when typing on forums. I don't know why.
[Xoom General] dscribe:
I use mine for several things, but the major thing for which my phone would be completely inadequate is that I teach Bible class on Sunday mornings from my tablet. My tablet is wifi only so I cannot speak for those who can haul theirs with them all the time and get 3g on it.

Generally speaking, Android phone apps will work on an Android tablet. Some apps need to be updated for newer versions of Android, especially Honeycomb, and will force close. Some phone apps will not expand to fill the screen but will only take up a small portion of it. Some apps will fill the screen automatically and the resolution looks fine. Some apps will fill the screen but they look odd. It is a trial and error "test it and see" matter. There are also apps that have be designed or redesigned just for tablets. Most tablet apps will say "for Honeycomb" or "HD" (High Definition) or "for tablets" in their names, but this is not always the case. The Market does have a special section of featured tablet apps and you can find many more by searching on "Honeycomb" or "Tablet."
[Xoom General] belber095:
If you don't want to pay for a Xoom, look into the Iconia A500 like I did. It's very similar, but only costs $450
[Xoom General] dulaney22:
I actually think browsing the net is the best thing it does. Quick controls and thumb keyboard make it very fast. Use something like pulse and it's a media consumers dream.
[Xoom General] ruddogg:
I got my 3G Verizon Xoom on eBay for $490 shipped... I wouldn't pay regular price either.

At the end of the day... it IS just a toy, but it is definitely closer to a laptop than the iPad 2 is, I goto the iPad 2 for my wife & she loves it.

Xoom is much more versatile than the iPad 2.
[Xoom General] Nighte:
At the end of the day it still seems like it's just an expensive toy as of now...

But I may pick one up tomorrow just to play with it to see if I like it just because I'm kind of a gadget whore. Hahaha :D

Question, does LauncherPro(Plus) work on tablets or no? Or is there a tablet version of it? I saw some "hands-on" videos on youtube and there seems to be a bit of lag when transitioning between homescreens. Hmmm!
[Xoom General] jiwengang:
Well I have a post about this. It is not exhaustive but it covers a lot with photos and elaborations.

I am not a random id that do some own ads here but if xda allows html, I will post my original write-up here without hestitation. =)

Here it is

What do you do with your 10.1 tablet toy??
[Xoom General] PureH2O:
There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
[Xoom General] slack04:
Well, you just went beyond what I said when I called it a "toy." Its silly to make statements like this when 1) laptops are not "half the price"; 2) nobody cares how much YOU want to spend on your electronics; and 3) not everyone makes the same uses of their stuff as you do. If you like laptops, that's great. I do too. Tablets are a different form factor and thus have different uses.

Anyways, make your own decisions about what you want to spend your money on, just don't expect it to be anything more than it is.
[Xoom General] Nighte:
Agreed, my laptop costed me 3 grand, so I disagree with the comment above yours.

Point of this post was to see if there's any other usages for the tablets that I had not known about. Which does not seem to be the case. I was hoping to have more reasons to justify my purchase (to make myself feel less guilty y'know? :rolleyes:)

That said, I may buy it and play around with it to see if I like it and/or will be needing it.

Anyone know if its possible to haggle the price at BestBuy or FutureShop in Canada :confused:?
[Xoom General] nooomoto:
I admit there really is no reason for a tablet. I've wanted a Xoom since release but wasn't comfortable with paying $800 or signing a contract, so the wifi version came out and I jumped on it.

Now that I have the Xoom, I still don't really know what to do with it. I'm reading books on it, thats cool...it's cool for browsing and what not. I can't justify it's reason for existence other than it's cool.

To summarize;

Paid $600 for Xoom Wifi

Can't figure out what I needed it for

Happy as I hell that I have it

It's gadget porn, thats all.
[Xoom General] slack04:
Ha! Haggling a price at a big-box store? Are you from Europe!

Just kidding, but the answer is a flat "no chance." Nobody at those stores have the authority to change pricing.

A word of advice to you: I'd wait for the second generation devices. The Xoom is a solid early-adopter device, but now that you've managed to avoid it for this long I'd put it off for a few more months while the second-gen devices come out. Cheaper, lighter, and (hopefully) will be supported for longer by google/manufacturer. Then again, if you spent $3k on a laptop (I hope it has a money printer and a grappling hook for that price!) then I'm guessing that you're not too worried about the few hundred dollars it would cost to trade up when you want to.

+1
[Xoom General] Nighte:
Yeah lots of new ones are coming out soon I believe. Guess I can wait.. it is afterall, just a toy :p
[Xoom General] Sistum Id:
Tablets are a lot easier to carry around. It's easier to hold while standing up, laying in bed, and kicking back on a couch/recliner/lawn chair. I'm tired of being hunched over a keyboard and mouse. I can rest my head and browse. If I need to do something that my Xoom can't. I can RDP into my PC, or walk to my PC and do what I need to do. Also battery life on my Xoom is just awesome.

I feel tablets are like the consoles vs PC war. Sure PC is superior to consoles in many ways, but in my opinion, it can't beat picking up the controller and relaxing on the recliner playing a game. Same sense, I can just pick my tablet up and browse.
[Xoom General] musashiken:
I have no laptop nor netbook. So I bought the Xoom.

Yes it is a toy, but using it while lazing on the bed/couch is so comfortable.

Web browsing comes first to mind. Though it won't be as full featured as using the desktop but normal web surfing works very well and using your fingers instead of a mouse to navigate websites makes so much sense.

Next would be ebook reading. Seriously, if you read your books and you have no ebook reader then using your tablet as a book is a must. It has pretty much replaced my normal paperback reading. And best thing is it's pretty easy to just sideload tons of free ebooks into the Xoom for your viewing pleasure anytime.

And finally gaming. Just to pass the time. I pretty much stopped gaming on my nexus one because well, playing games on a 10.1" screen is just so much better.
[Xoom General] Kippui:
Just buy the xoom at a Costco/sams club for you can return it after two months.

I plan on doing that so if new generation devices come out then I will just swap it out.
[Xoom General] niftytechster101:
Right now i dont see the need for a tablet, although im envious of the people that do have them. But i just dont see the need for it at the moment, i just recently got a brand spankin new huge 25" all-in-one pc for less then that of the Xoom. As of now the Xoom isn't for me but i have my sights set on the Galaxy 10.1
[Xoom General] :
Did you just contradict yourself?
[Xoom General] JohannFaust:
Somewhat to my surprise, my WiFi Xoom turned out to be a quite useful business device. I traveled a couple of times, leaving a docked company laptop behind, and managed to accomplish everything, through either Android apps or RDP. Plus, it was a hit in lunch/dinner meetings, getting past around with purpose: sharing presentation slides, demo videos, etc. After helping to close a deal, my employer actually insisted on reimbursing me, and making it the company's asset (still assigned to me 24/7).

OTOH, I still haven't found a sound/new/innovative personal/"at home" use case.
[Xoom General] slack04:
Great story bro!
[Xoom General] drawde:
I got a xoom just for fun, had absolutely zero need for one (not to mention I just bought a brand new, moderately top of the line laptop no more than 2 months prior to getting the xoom), and I noticed almost right away I dont use my laptop nearly as much as I used to. Not in any way saying xoom can take the place of a laptop in every sense, but for my uses it does, 4 times outta 5.
[Xoom General] jaybeewaybee:
I second that.
[Xoom General] Brolloks:
I also got the Xoom for the heck of it and did not expect much, I am using it now more than ever, for browsing, games as well as for work when travelling, so much so I hardly use my company laptop unless I have to do spreadsheet work. I'm a PC superuser and overclocking is my hobby so being able to manipulate the android is lots of fun, hence the reason why I would never buy an iPad.

My kids love it and call it "daddy's big cellphone", they can't wait for me to let them play angry birds on it, lol.
[Xoom General] blackte4:
All I can say is I love my Brandi(Xoom people!) Lol she is with me every second of the day. My best friend got mad when I was setting my laptop to record the billboard awards from my xoom. We was at the movies.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
>the major thing for which my phone would be completely inadequate is that I teach Bible class on Sunday mornings from my tablet

<holding back Moses joke with supreme effort>

You've come a long way, baby...

<OK, I failed...>

And just to demonstrate the versatility of the tablet, not only is it good for God's teaching, it's also good for...

...drum roll...

[>>censored<<]
[Xoom General] MiRaCL:
I bought a Xoom last week. Didn't really need it, but bought it anyway.

It's a challenge to find uses for it, but once you do, it well worth the investment.

My findings so far:

Works great as an e-book reader.

Awsome to play snes games via snesoid and Scummvm works really good.

Streaming movies from my nas(cifsmount) is a neat feature.

The best use for a tablet is on the toilet or in bed.

The only problem is that the screen on my Nexus One seems so small now :/
[Xoom General] vamp6x6x6x:
That's what she said...

And yes it is a toy but its an awesome toy.
[Xoom General] :
Winning! lol.
[Xoom General] nobylspoon:
There isn't anything new that a Xoom can do that my Evo and Touchsmart2 TabletPC can't do but it IS able to do some of those existing things a lot better and more conveniently.

I bought the TM2 for college when I was at a brick and mortar school because of the Wacom screen and OneNote but now that I have transferred to an online school, my main use is access to Books24x7 and email so it is nice being able to shed about 75% of the weight and boost speed and battery life by getting a Xoom.

Also, I have over 100GB of comics but the TM2 just isn't that comfortable to hold due to the weight and it doesn't lay flat in portrait mode because of the battery so I will get plenty of non-school use with it as well.

I keep telling myself I will not use this for work but I know I will end up doing so. I just wish they would allow corporate email access for Android devices instead of just iOS. It's a fracking Global 500 software company for the love of Gods...but I digress.
[Xoom General] inspiron41:
i just found a new-old love for my tablet. i love comic books since i was young and a decade later, i just picked it up. i'm using jjComics Viewer to view all my comics. i download my comics in cbz format, and i upload and transfer it to my Xoom through dropbox. easy. painless. and simple. and no need to connect it to my computer. :)

btw, i just started the Marvel Civil War series. truly amazing. Xoom was defiantly worth it.

and yes i defiantly use it more than just a comic viewer, a whole lot more.
[Xoom General] SuperDeform:
Just to show off i guess
[Xoom General] fuyajo:
besides many things, already said here...

READING!

I dont sit in front of my PC and read many articles or even a book.

I dont use my phone for reading, just browsing through the RSS headlines and pics.

But with my Xoom, I am using kindle now. I read more RSS news and the article.

For Future Updates, I hope for faster texting input and better browsing abilities.
[Xoom General] rdillz:
The Xoom is the true laptop. Its turned my Thinkpad into a desktop. Needless to say its collecting dust because the Xoom gets all the love right now. It does everything I need and more.