yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
thats great. i can see moto defy in india

http://direct.motorola.com/ENA/Soft...load/Moto.Version.3.4.3.MB525.en.ASEAN.v9.pdf
[Defy Android Development] ankit360:
ok.. this is new chinese sh*t let's try
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
i am downloading it.

orignal JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-33-1

new JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.7
[Defy Android Development] ankit360:
http://mir.cr/HRXSSAXE

MD5 CBB422AF4679DB1DA7ECC38B420D17B7
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
Hey ankit,

just to know

is this link of yours gives us the full final updated SBF file for sea15 (india):confused:
[Defy Android Development] ankit360:
i don't know it final or not but it's new

still no hindi locale :(
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
HAVE they resolved the bugs and cpu spikes in this new one..??..please update first post if this is the new official release and add some screenshots too..!

also i would like to know if the MSU update works if we had flashed the previously released froyo..? i am not sure cuz the source indicated is on 2.59 eclair
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
i tried to update on previous version and it detected new version.
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
ne body with the new sbf

if possible send some screens of About phone, where AP Basebands version details are there..or if possible send the build.prop from root explorer, system/build.prop
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
Detected new version?/ so you were able to update right..??
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
yes i was able to update. build.prop file from new sbf.

ro.build.display.id=JEM_3.4.3-36-1.7

ro.build.version.full=Moto_Version.34.3601.7.MB525.Retail.en.SEA15

i am not able to see the 3g apn in network settings in this version and ealier one. in other cm7 or miui i can see and use them. even after killing all tasks with advanced task killer i only get 185 mb free.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
what the hell..!!

this is good news.

but, guys..

the which one is the right one:

F.Ace says: 3.4.3-33-1.7

and andkit says: 3.4.3-36-1.7

is it still the classic sea15 / sea18 things

which 33 is for sea15

and 36 is for sea18?
[Defy Android Development] ankit360:
I already post sbf in previous post..
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
okay, i am from Indonesia,

updated from ECLAIR 2.1 Build 2.59 SEA-15

confirmed this can be doing with MSU.

the result is:

Froyo 2.2.2 Build 3.4.3-36-1.7 SEA-15

just go back to your SEA eclair with nandroidbackup+fixedsbf,

then run msu to download and upgrade.

if you want to upload the SBF,

it's located on:

SBF FULLNAME:

JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.7_CHINESE_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B50AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTINT15_P002_A014_HWp3_Service1FF . sbf

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[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
First post updated!!

First post updated!!
[Defy Android Development] F.Ace:
Sorry, I just quote that thing from here

Now, what i found??

12. Jul 5, 2011 [B]5:07 AM[/B] (in response to TRose)
Re: DEFY: Upgrade/Update News for Non-U.S. Models

India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, South Africa live on MSU again.

Thanks for your patience.

Source SW:

JRDNEM_U3_2.51.0EPU93ST2_U_03.0A.01

JRDNEM_U3_2.59.0EPU93ST2_U_03.0E.02

Target SW:

JEM_3.4.3-33-1.7

This is the first post

12. Jul 5, 2011 [B]9:28 AM[/B] (in response to TRose)
Re: DEFY: Upgrade/Update News for Non-U.S. Models

India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, South Africa live on MSU again.

Thanks for your patience.

Source SW:

JRDNEM_U3_2.51.0EPU93ST2_U_03.0A.01

JRDNEM_U3_2.59.0EPU93ST2_U_03.0E.02

Target SW:

JEM_3.4.3-36-1.7

This is the new one.

the time post is different with my first post. :confused:
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
maybe just a typo, then they change it to the proper one.

JEM_3.4.3-36-1.7
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
Flashable ZIP (CWM 2 & CWM 3 Supported)

Baseband SEA-15 Re-Released

3.4.3-36-17

http://db.tt/FTamuHa
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
fixed sbf. what is above file for?

http://mir.cr/1GAI7ISV
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
if you flashing new rom,

CM7 / MiUi / other custom ROMs,

which that custom ROM is based from foreign region,

so of course it has different baseband,

the result is, the bad signal reception which can caused faster battery draining.

so your phone need baseband fix.

and that zip is flashable zip of baseband fix

obtained from this new release 3.4.3-36-17.
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
ok why i have problem to see apn settings in the official one when i cann the apn in miui or cm7
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
Settings \ Wirelles & network settings \ Mobile Network \ Access point names
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
true but i have to add manually. in others it detected automatically. i will add nandroid backup later with 2-4 official apks renamed not removed using root explorer like cardio trainer.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
maybe motorola's not yet update your carrier apn setting on official release.

on attachment i give you apns-conf.xml from this official froyo,

and apns-conf.xml from CM7

open with notepad or some text tool.

go check and see, is your carrier settings wrong? or not updated? on the froyo.

and go check and see, is your carrier settings is right on the CM7.

FYI, apns-conf.xml can be obtained from system partition

/system/etc/apns-conf.xml

when you change/replace it from rootexplorer,

don't forget to re set the permissions,

and then on the settings, just reset the apn, it should configured automaticaly.
[Defy Android Development] hailmary:
thanks guys...good news for us.hope there is none bugs on this:D
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
did not work i added manually and its working.
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
Same problem on Docomo sim..... with all the official roms even I hv to add it manually on leaked gingerbread ...only works on miui.
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
I was just abt to hack my defy out of frustration, and this arrived. Flashed it a few hrs back. Lets hope its stable.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
this is not problem of this release,

another official froyo release also have this problem too.

never on eclair too,

not just hindi, same with indonesian, bahasa, and other SEA locale.

yea, i think motorola is forgotting something,

we just speak another language here.

why does moto put lots of european languages on this release?

it's just seems nonesense.
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
i am uploading nandroid of this version.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
thanks,

but is it clear and stock?
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
stock 3.4.3-36-1.7 odexed but rooted and 2init 1.7 apk installed.

http://mir.cr/12L37UEL
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
bootmenu installer 1.7 contains bootmenu 0.8.3 which using new CWM v3

so since you create nandroid with new CMW3,

it should be restored with new CWM3 too, not ordinary custom recovery.

i'll put a note on first post then.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
now updated!

page one download resources is completed!

now we have SBF, Nandroid Backup, Fixed SBF.

thanks to andkit360 and kirpeace for the contribution.

thank you very much :)

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[Defy Android Development] F.Ace:
Downloading now..!

Prepare for backup. :D
[Defy Android Development] chen2008:
Guys, I am on CM7 (rc1v2) can I use the nandroid version of SEA15 to try out this ROM and get back to cm7?

I had originally upgraded to cm7 beta from official 2.1 via Nordic (fixed) sbf route.
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
This one looks as unstable as the previous one. Had to take out the battery twice due to system hungup. Had to reboot once due to cpu overusage, as was in the earlier version. Guess these moto people are messing up on froyo.
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
Seriously, is the problem not resolved...wtf moto :mad:

i just install the full sbf will quote all the bugs later..

till now wifi has no problems yet..all working fine
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
em... guys..

have you ever try another region froyo build?

it's just the same, lots of hung up,

mainly it just because highclass sdcard.

only happened on froyo and cm7 (cm7 uses froyo kernel though)

it's known bug of all froyo build:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1152366

just use previous sdcard which came with defy.

or buy a new one but always choose class 2 (or 4?)

i have no problem with that stock sdcard. previously i had that problem with 8 GB class 6 sdcard.
[Defy Android Development] wushantao:
where is the singapore re-release?

anyone can upload it?
[Defy Android Development] chen2008:
Warning to those on cm7 trying to use this...

I tried 'restoring' after downloading the nandroid backup to the backup folder. It restores fine, but phone does not boot! :mad:

So I had to use the full sbf, rsd lite route, now I can use 2.2 (this ROM) but then lost all my cm7 quarx rom, etc.

Perhaps I could go back root it and install cm7 again...
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
after restoring nandroid backup,

DO YOU FORGET

TO flash the FIXED SBF???

it's a basic knowledge on defy modding! nandroid backup only is not enough.

if you forget about fixed SBF, it's your fault, not this release.
[Defy Android Development] MazaMoto:
I am also using 4 gb class 2 SD card & not experiancing any such hangup issues till now.

Wierd thing about the update is, it will keep all the installed apps, settings including launchers as before. It even kept my call history intact after update.

BUT, it messed up with imp. thing for a phone. It removed all the contacts & groups. I mean, WTF?? Infact, the MSU screen says that it may remove all the 3rd party stuffs & media etc etc, but will restore the contacts. However in reality, its the reverse... OR am I the only one experinced this??:confused:

Some things to share:

Just after update, the CPU consumption goes 100% for few minutes as the phone resyncs all the settings. This causes Phone / battery to heat upto 40-41 deg. So we have to switch off the phone & turn it back after 5-10 minuts when we feel that the temp has come down to normal.

(This is as suggested by Mark on official Moto forum)

Home screen is same, atleast they could have given some nice effects.

If I kill all running apps using Adv. Task Killer (V1.7.9), the task killer does not close like before, instead, I can now see many system apps like Music Player, DLNA, Maps etc listing up automatically after a while. (BTW, my bacground data is disabled)

The free memory is getting low. Just after update & after restart the free memory was near about 200+ MB, but after a days use its getting only 150MB free after killing all apps.

New gallery is good looking, but a bit heavy for Defy i guess, as its kinda laggy & also didint like the annoying pop up at the bottom which is kinda bigger than required..

Messages opens slower than before.

Games works same as before, just make sure to kill all apps to free some memory:D

No SEA/HINDI language, so all those SMSes are not worth than BOXES.. & moto calls is region specific update. WTF again!!

I think Moto should release a language pack which can be flashed simply by using RSD light. Like it used to be on my earlier Moto ZN5..

Even if i have disabled the Background data, I still feel that its always on, as I can see v. small network activity going on periodically.

Performance feels same. No major improvement

Battery life is reduced a bit (May be due to background activities as stated above)

They have messed up with camera too. Now ther are no mode settings like Macro, Landscape etc, instead they thought of giving two annoying little signs to zoom in & out, even if that is possible though volume rockers.

(Edit: The Macro & other modes are avaiable after clearing the camera cache from settings, aslo auto focus now works)

Anyways I got Camera360 installed , which is v cool.

Browser still consumes LOTS of CPU.

Above all (looooong) listings are just for info, so that others can also list his / her own findings too...

BTW, I have not yet resetted my phone, no Hard reset, no factory reset.

Also my SD card was in my phone during update, didnt take it out after update either. (I think someone on official forums had suggested to use the phone w/o memory card for a while right after update?)
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
I had replaced flash plugin to 10.3 in nandroid
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
it is happened on ALL froyo update, not just this release mate...

not only with MSU, but it same with RSD Lite.

you will still get your apps, and some stuff although you've been update it.

if you want to get the better result,

always do a clear data + clear cache before doing update (it is same thing with factory reset).

you can use TitaniumBackup to backup your apps plus its setting,

SMS Backup & Restore to backup sms,

Call Log Backup and Restore to backup call log,

and make sure your contct stored on Google Contact.

it helps me everytime i change a ROM, CM7-MiUi-JBoogie-Barebones-Stock Froyo

Please, mate..

Do you think Advanced Task Killer, and all other bull crap Task Killer is effective?

Just ask many advanded linux or advanced android guru,

THEY JUST USELESS, this is Android (Linux-Like OS), unlike other OS, it has different memory management!

some application are designed to keep always ON in the background, they always spawn again after you kill it. like Maps, GMail, Gallery, Market, YouTube, Clock, VoiceSearch, FourSquare, WhatsApp, YM, Widgets, etc.

when you force-kill the applications, some of application start again, you kill it, they start again, redundantly it just wasting a resources to RE-start the application, it will draining your battery faster.

that kind of application only useful when some application hangs, we can kill it (restart it),

if you keep kill-restart the apps, it just useless, and pointless.

the best thing if you don't need that apps, is just simply remove it.

if it's a system app, you can ask me how to do that.

or just find another application which do not ALWAYS ON in the background.

oh ya, for about memory space, just do a clean update,

you will get better memory space, BECAUSE there's no additional apps there,

if you install it again, memory space gets little.

it's known on all froyo update, because Motorola and its Blur crap, put some additional useless apps there.

so i choose custom ROM, like Barebones or CM7, which is CLEAN, and have a better memory space.
[Defy Android Development] chen2008:
Bro, I did not say it was release fault or anyone's fault, just post my experience so others in same situation can benefit...
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
i pick a wrong and bad english word to say, sorry didn't mean that.

do you flash the fixed sbf after restoring nandroid? because you have to do that.
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
yes, i agree with you same probs.

i have full flashed the sbf, and the problem still remains.

This is serious mess up.:eek: .....the phone just became dead like stuck ...had to take out battery to work again.

i would recommend all not to flash this sea15 re- release ,you will repent in a couple of days.:(

just thinking why sea15 froyo is a mess :confused:
[Defy Android Development] chen2008:
^^

No problems..no offence taken :)

I did not, since I did not know that...frankly I am totally confused between cyanogenmod backups which are simple zip files with directory structure, the backup that clockworkmod creates which appear to be .img files (but only 5 or 6) and then there is sbf which has its own set of image files inside with numbers like 31,32 etc.

Anyway, now with full sbf flashed using RSD, I am ok with this froyo 2.2 SEA because I got my favourite apps like Data manager, Swype, Ringtones, 3g hotspot etc., to work without additional effort.

...did love cm7 but have to find time and means to go back to it later...
[Defy Android Development] addu:
First up, i'm a newbie. I just bought my first Android phone (Defy).

After reading this thread I have came to conclusion that the official update for Defy (Froyo) is not stable enough. Am I right? or did I got things wrong?

Just wanted to know is it worth upgrading to Froyo from Eclair?

Thanks for any help.
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
DEFY is really awesome, lots of potential it has...its worth to be on froyo even i would suggest gingerbread.....read wiki and other threads here....get acquainted with nandroid and backups (2nd init, custom recovery) and it you are good to go on froyo even eat gingerbread..!! root it even you can play some nvidia tegra2 games.....

note :: read a lot on this xda forum and only after that do good to your phone.

i would suggest you to go through FAQ on cm7
[Defy Android Development] MazaMoto:
Thanks for the advice. Currently I have only wiped the cache data through bootloader menu. So is it really also necessary to clear the data as well? Also is the sequence important like first clear Data & then clear Cache?

Adv. Task killer may not be effective, but the thing is , its one of those Must Have things on any of the Android phone. I guess, almost 70% members of this forums must have installed it on their Android devices. Atleast on Ecliar, it was useful to clear many unwanted running application before starting, say Games...:)

Actually I mentioned that point in comparison with 2.1 Eclair. If ^above^ is the case then those same application would have been starting automatically on the 2.1 as well, however that was not the case. These applications seems to be starting on Froyo only, so I needed to know if its common with all the Froyo releases OR is specific only to SEA15...

One more thing is, few of the members are complaining about the New SEA15 also being buggy & causing hangs etc, however, the common thing is, they have updated it using RSD lite (Fixed sbf flash), can it be the reason behind it?

As me & one of my friend have updated it using MSU & haven't experienced any such issues till now. (I know that MSU also first downloads the SBF & then flashes it on the phone, but still...? )
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
I have updated with msu, still those frequent problems. Standby time has reduced dramatically, even though i keep a watch on cpu overusage. Strangely battery usage statistics shows mobile standby consuming > 50% of battery usage and time without signal as 50%. I STAY in area of very strong signal.

Fed up by these issues, i am selling my defy and buying a spice mi410.
[Defy Android Development] addu:
Thanks for replying.

Most of the words you used in your post (nandroid, 2nd init, custom recovery, rooting, cm7) are new to me and I have no idea right now what all that does and what it means. Still ill try to read most of the threads here and see if I can get into all this.

My primary problem as of now is that i'm not too much satisfied with the battery performance of my defy, is there anyway I can better it? Or upgrading to Froyo will help in this cause?
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
yeah, updating your android on froyo will help you with better battery management.

Once you are on froyo and have rooted your phone you can install SetVsel to reduce the cpu freq. to get more battery life...even you can go upto 48hrs...

...

if you are using HSPA (3G) that will quite largely impact the battery life, turn off all the data and sensors when not in use....also use advanced task manager to kill the background apps....but first you should definitely be on froyo...its too simple to flash via rsd lite.
[Defy Android Development] addu:
Ok then ill flash to froyo. Just wanted to know is there any kind of bugs or drawbacks in froyo, cause i'm not so keen on upgrading to froyo as its been only 4 days since I got my phone.

And can you guide me with rooting, how is it done and what all I have to do or just give me a link of an thread that will guide me. Sorry if i'm asking too much I know its annoying for some people.
[Defy Android Development] vikrambharadwaj:
Try the China unicom 2.0, Its an awesome release especially if you have battery issues, With heavy usage I get around 2 days of battery..
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
you will kill your flash light if you use any china mobile roms..ours is mb525 and for china they have ME525 with some little hardware/voltage difference...
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
how u see battery usage
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
settings \ about phone \ battery use

but, on froyo, it always resets everytime you reboot.

on gingerbread, it doesn't happen.
[Defy Android Development] addu:
Can I revert back to Eclair if I get any problems after flashing to froyo.

And just one last thing I want to know from those who have flashed to froyo, is there any significant improvement in anyways after upgrading to froyo? I'll appreciate a feedback of the pros and cons of it.

Just getting all info I could before flashing. :)
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
Two methods of flashing ::

1)if you full flash to froyo, then you cannot full flash to eclair...ie no you cannot go back to eclair directly but there is another way to go on eclair which is called Nandroid+FixedSBF...way..

2) if you Nandroid+fixedSBF to froyo, then you can Full flash to eclair ..ie yes you can downgrade.
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
Nandroid + Fixed SBF is the safest way to keep the downgrade ability,.:cool:
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
i see battery percentage in my phone.
[Defy Android Development] :
Seems like nobody has uploaded the SBF for the recent SEA18 (Singapore) update, so here it is:

JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.7_CHINESE_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTINT_P012_A014_HWp3_Service1FF

http://www.multiupload.com/MICWJMSOFB
[Defy Android Development] chen2008:
Thanks very much bro...

I am currently on SEA15 latest which is for India etc. I use the phone both in India and Singapore about 50-50 so should I stay on that or switch to this, any comment?

Because I do find in singapore it only connects as "G" which is GPRS? I am not able to get 3G at all even in CBD..other times it is "E".

Not sure if this one makes a difference...
[Defy Android Development] :
Check your APN settings. Apart from the MMS APNs, if there is more than one for mobile data available for your telco, you can try switching to the other one. For example, M1 has 'sunsurf' and 'miworld'. The 'miworld' APN is selected by default, and I have to delete it in order to make the phone use the 'sunsurf' APN and get 3G/HSDPA speeds.
[Defy Android Development] chen2008:
Thanks...I am suspecting if it shows G in the display it means 3G? Because the other APN which is Gee DUN unable to select. The selected one is Gee 3G/GPRS which is also default. I am on Starhub
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
for 3g atleast for me it shows H
[Defy Android Development] :
The G icon is GPRS/EDGE connectivity, which is slower than 3G. You should aim to get H (HSDPA) or 3G (slightly slower than HSDPA).

This thread may be useful to you:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=753157
[Defy Android Development] chen2008:
Thanks...I tried using those settings,it keeps going back to default...but I do get H sometimes not everywhere..

Added later...

How stupid of me, there was another setting inside the Mobile Network called 'Select Network' which was set to "2G only" for whatever reason perhaps I had done it or it was the default. I changed it to "Automatic Default" and now it shows "H"

thanks very much for feedback..
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
I got frustrated with the instability of official 2.2.2 and finally sold my defy. Surprised to see that my defy had terrible standby times even with this big battery. I almost lost 30% of charge in 7hrs of night, with wifi and mobile data off, no programs running in the background. Dont know why people say that defy has a good battery life. Guys whats ur experience wrt battery life on this froyo.