yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
I agree it's a reflection. Maybe part of the issue is symantics. The small black circle in the center is the lens itself. The reflection bisects that center black circle and is off of a larger glass piece sealing the entire opening. At least that's how it looks to me in the video and the screenshot. But those actually holding the phone will decide.
[HTC Sensation] Barff1984:
I saw it worth my own eyes... seriously there its a lens on the case about 1/3mm indented from casing
[HTC Sensation] wulls:
I was in a Vodafone shop this morning and I can confirm there IS a lens cover on the sensation. If there was no lens cover the back cover of the phone would have to have a rubber 'O' ring or similar to prevent dust getting inside the phone.
[HTC Sensation] Barff1984:
Finally! someone that believes what i've been saying.

Looks like there's going to be a **** storm of returns coming Vodafones way once people realise theirs is a faulty batch :/
[HTC Sensation] alexp999:
From what I have read, 99% of the time, it seems the demo has the extra lens, the shipped phones just have a hole.

I think having a replacement shipped out will be the same issue. Either there was a late design change which only affected production models, or the first batch of production models have this lens missing.

I think if it is missing, the best solution would for HTC and vodafone to just ship out back covers, it seems a complete waste of everyones time and money, to replace the phone, when there is nothing wrong with it.
[HTC Sensation] Barff1984:
can't really imagine the demo phones would have a double lens. The one i was shown was straight out of the box and would've gone home with me if my gf hadn't complained about waiting for me lol.

All i know, is that when more are released and this becomes a bigger deal, then all the people that got the first batch will complain about it.

At the end of the day, we would all want that double lens, purely because it protects the inside from dust.
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
The double lens won't protect the inside anymore from dust than what we currently have. There is a ring inside the back cover which protects the inside from dust.
[HTC Sensation] Barff1984:
can you honestly say you don't feel that it's missing something? the indent is too deep to look natural and kind of effects the aesthetics somewhat.
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
I honestly don't feel its missing anything. The ident is not that deep at all mate. It's better protection for the camera lens than a lens flush with the case!

On the DHD it always annoyed me that the camera lens stuck out the back of the case. The seal on the Sensation is excellent.
[HTC Sensation] Barff1984:
Well guys....I feel like a right pleb.

Spoke to Htc UK on facebook about this issue and this is how the replied

''Hi guys, there isn't a missing lens - HTC Sensation has a in-built camera lens and does not require an external lens. In store, there are demo models which are slightly different in their appearance, and we apologise for any confusion caused.''

So...I'm sorry for making this a 4 paged thread of nonsense and hope the Mods can lock it.

Sorry for all the fuss :( I hang my head in shame.

However....Whilst flirting with the pretty asian girl from Vodafone in Town, i will ask her if she can cheekfully give me the demo case as it does look better with the second lens :)
[HTC Sensation] rm1984:
Vodafone seem to think its a dodgy batch :confused: Rang them today and there sending out a replacement on Thursday.

*Edit*

Just searching on the Vodafone website and there shouldn't be a lense cover :eek::o

http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/HTC-Devices/Sensation-getting-replaced/td-p/746557/page/3
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
If you look at the device, quite obvious it doesn't need an extra lens cover. The camera itself already has lens cover on it.

Another one would just get damaged. It's very clever, and stops the lens getting ruined.
[HTC Sensation] alexp999:
Vodafone have confirmed from HTC that there should not be a lens cover on the rear cover as the camera has one built in. Someone has asked why demo phones have the lens so hopefully we will find out why there was a difference.
[HTC Sensation] solsearch:
No worries. You thought it was a real issue and were trying to rectify it. This is a valid thing. You were also humble enough to admit your mistake when you got a response which is good.

Good luck with the flirt. Just one piece of advice: aside from making sure the other cover fits properly also make sure that having a double lens doesn't affect picture quality (unless you're willing to trade minimal casing aesthetics for picture quality).
[HTC Sensation] Badwolve1:
Thread closed as per OP Req.
[Verizon Droid Charge] robbie725:
Hey guys... I came over to Verizon from Sprint... I had the epic which I though was a great phone... was rooted with viper ROM and everything worked great but due to some changes and a change in service provider I had to switch to Verizon so I have the Charge... is there a reason why under my photo folders in the gallery it says "Ecuador Columbia" just cant seem to change it?:confused:

Any ideas...?

Thanks
[Verizon Droid Charge] robbie725:
Ok I really hate to bump this up but this is driving me crazy... when i go to the gallery and the folders come up why does it say "Ecuador - Colombia" underneath...? What does it say under your folders in the gallery?

Thanks:confused::confused:
[HTC Inspire 4G] cookw24:
Bought a 32GB class 6 uSD card awhile back and just got it in. Unfortunately, it took nearly 2 hours to transfer the same 6.5GB worth of data from the stock 8GB class 4 (which took about 20 minutes). After putting in my Inspire, it automatically went to format it (which is weird enough, never had that happen). Now it's only capacity is 8.00 MB. I've tried doing hard formats and using Easeus recovery and partition manager tools to get this thing going again since I really don't want the hassle of returning a card to Canada from the US.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance
[HTC Inspire 4G] kirk123:
Give this a try.

http://askiris.toshiba.com/ToshibaS...eId=&dialogID=134884508&stateId=1 0 134880938
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotbst05:
Is an overclocking widget needed for SkyRaider 4.0?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotbst05:
feedback anyone?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k_nivesout:
Needed? No. You can use setCPU if you want. Make sure you're using an overclockable kernel, I'm not sure if skyraiders stock kernel is.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EFoxwell:
Skyraider doesn't use an overclocking kernel. Chad's sense kernel is what I typically use. You can overclock to 1.113 from .998. But I can't really tell a difference in speed, I just like his kernel.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dazmancumbria:
Afternoon pll

After spending a few hours trying to update my phone and not having much sucess, going to try a Factory reset. Only problem it ask me for a code :(

Where will i find the code to do a factory reset ??
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1069015&highlight=secret+codes

jje
[General Questions and Answers] ckain:
I was wondering if someone knows if there is a switcher on the market that is similar to the one we all know from Sense, when you tip on the Statusbar und swipe down (screenshot)

I don't use sense but i am really looking forward to have a good task switcher.

thanks for helping out
[General Questions and Answers] nightranger73:
I use multitasking pro and love it... it opens with home btn while a second press opens up default launcher

For notification bar there are lot of them in the market but I would suggest folder organizer that allows you to put well organized folders as well as app shortcuts on status bar
[Xoom General] e.mote:
This is a survey to see how well current tablets can play 720p and 1080p H.264 movies. Attached below are 6 sample clips from Avatar, each is of the same scene, encoded in H.264 high/main/baseline profile and 720p/1080p resolution.

Please try all clips, then answer the questions below. If you have multiple tablets (eg iPad), please use a different reply for each tablet.

I've selected Avatar since it is full-frame and requires more bits than a normal wide-screen movie. This particular sequence is very high action, and serves as a worst-case test. (For playback, please minimize system load by closing down other running apps.)

http://mediafire.com/?15ec78k8s57db1z 1280 high MP4

http://mediafire.com/?pylvj2fa9kzynh2 1280 main MP4

http://mediafire.com/?9uk4z06ig651x3u 1280 baseline MP4

http://mediafire.com/?ge1nwgd5003s3ak 1920 high MP4

http://mediafire.com/?8aarftw6r499dga 1920 main MP4

http://mediafire.com/?7yqwhma8yhrhusq 1920 baseline MP4

Source: BRD master

Video encoder: x264cli

--crf 23 --tune film --preset veryfast --profile [high|main|baseline]

Audio encoder: neroaacenc

-q 0.4

Muxer: MP4Box

-add [video_track] -add [audio_track] -new [muxed_clip]

Please answer these questions:

1. Your tablet name & model

2. Firmware version (if custom ROM, include ROM name)

3. Media player name & version

4. Playback quality (smoothness, AV sync) for each clip
[Xoom General] vidriera:
-->1. Your tablet name & model

2. Android version

3. Media player name & version

4. Playback quality (smoothness, AV sync) for each clip

1. Xoom Wifi (US)

2. Stock non-rooted 3.1

3. Moboplayer 1.2.145 AND Stock player (no difference in quality for provided clips)

4. AV sync for all clips : 10/10. I've never had AV sync issues as long as i've used supported codecs. Smoothness for baseline: 10/10. For the other two (main and high), I have to say 8/10. I played both of them three times, and one play-through for each was perfect. However, the rolling beast starting at 0:42 produced a hitch or two on both other runs. I want to say that a couple things looked better on high profile, like whoever's face that is leading up to :42 seems clearer when they're flying by in high profile than in baseline, but I don't know if I'm just kidding myself.

Thanks for these test clips! Great idea.
[Xoom General] songmeesay:
1. Asus Transformer

2. Android 3.0

3. VitalPlayer 1.2.6, MoboPlayer 1.2, Asus Stock player

4. Main with all 3 players - Choppy for the most part. Some scenes play smooth but lasts no longer than 3 seconds. A/V in sync through whole clip though.

High with all 3 players - Choppy all the way through. A/V in sync as well.

Baseline - Plays perfectly with all 3 players.
[Xoom General] keitht:
Surprised by the results here. Why is high profile playing perfect for me now? I have never been able to do that before.

Please answer these questions:

1. Your tablet name & model

[Keitht] Motorola Xoom 3G (Verizon) stock

2. Android version

[Keitht] 3.1

3. Media player name & version

[Keitht] Stock Video Player and MoboPlayer 1.2.145_universal

4. Playback quality (smoothness, AV sync) for each clip

[Keitht] Main:

Stock Player: Plays perfect AV in sync

MoboPlayer: Same as stock player.

[Keitht] High:

Stock Player: Plays perfect, AV in sync.

MoboPlayer: Same as stock player

[Keitht] Baseline:

Stock Player: Plays perfect, AV in sync.

MoboPlayer: Same as stock player

EDIT: After seeing that the high profile clip played flawlessly, I tried one of my 720p high profile movies again (haven't tried since 3.1 Honeycomb update) and still have stutter and no sound. Don't understand this. Does mp4 high profile work and mkv does not?
[Xoom General] songmeesay:
I don't think hardware acceleration in 3.1 supports MKV.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
@vidiera

>I want to say that a couple things looked better on high profile, like whoever's face that is leading up to :42 seems clearer when they're flying by in high profile than in baseline

The encodes use constant quality (CRF 21), so should be the same regardless of profile or speed. You can double-check by playing the clips on your PC with a player capable of frame-advance.

@keitht

Try the MKV clip below and see how well it fares. It's the same high profile MP4 clip above, but muxed to MKV (using MKVToolnix 4.5).

http://sendspace.com/file/ntr26i
[Xoom General] Elysian893:
Wish you put this on a Dropbox, the hosting site is so absurdly slow...
[Xoom General] mug2k:
mediafire or hotfile are good options.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
I don't use Dropbox. If you know of a host site that doesn't require a login or software install, let me know. Alternatively, if someone is willing to host the file, send me a link and I'll add to the OP.

Mediafire has a 200MB limit. Not sure if it allows concurrent DL's.

Hotfile is about the same speed as FileServe/Filesonic/Sendspace. It varies depending on the time of day.
[Xoom General] mug2k:
I think it does.
[Xoom General] Elysian893:
I'm going to put this on Dropbox and provide a link when it's done downloading, this is so absurdly slow, I wouldn't be surprised if most people just gave up downloading instead of waiting it out.
[Xoom General] Elysian893:
K, testing this now. Xoom running 3.1, Tiamat 1.6ghz kernel with gpu overclocked to 400. The High Profile playback is flawless. I'm only running the CPU at 1ghz right now with the conservative governor, so I'm guessing it's the 400mhz gpu making this work right. Honestly, there is no performance difference between any of the 3 clips.

Still uploading to Dropbox, when it's done I'll post the link.

edit: looks like, despite the cpu speed being set to 1ghz, SetCPU is still showing some bump up from 1ghz to 1.6 with time in state...
[Xoom General] Elysian893:
http://db.tt/cUsWfuC

Dropbox link
[Xoom General] e.mote:
Thanks for the help, and for another's suggestion to use Mediafire. I've uploaded the 720p and am uploading the 1080p clips (also in baseline/main/high) to there. Concurrent DL's are allowed. Those who've tested the 720p, please also test with the 1080p clips once they're available. These were all made from the same BRD master clip.
[Xoom General] mug2k:
2 Questions

1. Are high profile MP4's working properly on honeycomb 3.1 ?.

2. Is converting mkv to mp4 a quicker process than encoding from high profile to base profile ?.
[Xoom General] thor17:
1. Motorola xoom wifi

2. Android 3.1 rooted

3. Stock player

4.

720p playback

Stock player

Baseline - flawless

Main and high - a little hiccup when the beast gets shot in the eye and slides in the mud, but other than that, plays great.

1080p playback

Stock player

High - "File cannot be played."

Main - "File cannot be played."

Baseline - Plays back fine.

Mobo player (soft decode only)

High - massive stuttering

Main - massive stuttering
[Xoom General] jase33:
1. Your tablet name & model - WiFi Xoom (US)

2. Firmware version - HC 3.1, BRD's 1.5Ghz GPU Overclock kernel

3. Media player name & version - Stock & Moboplayer

4. Playback quality (smoothness, AV sync) for each clip

1280 Base - Played perfectly

1280 Main - Had 2 hickups, one just before start and one just before end

1280 High - Played perfectly

1920 High -Stock Player - I get error "Sorry, this video cannot be played"

1920 High - Moboplayer - Plays very choppy with soft decoding, will not play with hardware decode

1920 Main -Stock Player - I get error "Sorry, this video cannot be played"

1920 Main - Moboplayer - Plays very slow/choppy & audio cust out with soft decoding, will not play with hardware decode

1920 Base -Stock Player -Played perfectly

1920 Base - Moboplayer - Played perfectly - did not need software encode
[Xoom General] Digital Man:
1. WiFi Xoom (US)

2. HC 3.1

3. Stock Media Player

720P

Base - Played perfectly - audio in sync

Main - Barely perceptible slowdown when first beast is shot with arrow and rolls over - audio in sync

High - Played perfectly - audio in sync
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
1. Motorola Xoom Verizon 3G

2. 3.1 Stock

3. Stock Media Player

4. Baseline - Very minimal hitching/stuttering during scenes where beasts flopped to ground. *Very*. Main - Same as baseline as far as I can tell. High - Same as basline and maine as far as I can tell. One note, to my untrained naked eye it "seems" as if High profile is grainy. The baseline and main profile images are more appealing to me. This could be complete hogwash and there might be 0 difference but it just seems grainy.
[Xoom General] chaval:
1. Motorola xoom wifi

2. Android 3.1 rooted

3. Stock player

4. 720p playback: High

a little hiccup when the beast gets shot in the eye and slides in the mud, but other than that, plays great.

1920 High - Stock player, this file cannot be played.

Sutters a lot in Mobo (Softdecoding)
[Xoom General] lostsoul3471:
1. Your tablet name & model

Acer Iconia A500

2. Android version

HC 3.0.1

3. Media player name & version

A) Stock

B) MoboPlayer (w/A7 plug-in)

C) RockPlayer

4. Playback quality (smoothness, AV sync) for each clip

A) High - Very choppy, audio keeps playing while video attempts to sync.

Main - Still choppy but not as bad, audio still unbroken, but video stutters to try and sync.

Base - Fully playable and no issues with AV syncing

B) Same as Stock in every respect.

C) High - Video and audio stuttering, unplayable.

Main - Same as High

Base - Very low frame rates but playable.

Looks like RockPlayer is good for the phone, but crappy for the tablets.

You may see some more Iconia posts as a link was copied to here from the A500 forums.
[Xoom General] Digital Man:
I've noticed that some people with exactly the same devices and firmware are getting slightly different results. May I suggest rebooting or resetting your devices before performing this test, otherwise differences in performance might be due to multiple programs running in background using system resources.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
All the clips are now posted. Hit refresh if they don't show up. Those who can play 720p smoothly, please check the 1080p.

@mug2k

>Is converting mkv to mp4 a quicker process than encoding from high profile to base profile

MKV is a container format, as is MP4. To switch (remux) from MKV to the MP4 container is very fast. However, the MP4 format only has official support for H.264/AAC, meaning you will probably need to recode the audio to AAC (which is still pretty fast). Embedded subtitle support is limited to plain-text SRT format. But current Android media players don't support embedded subs, so it's a moot point.

HC also natively supports MP3 and FLAC, but I'm not sure if that means it supports them in the MP4 container, or just as standalone audio files. The safe bet is just to use stereo AAC.

Lastly, not all high profile H.264 are the same. There are other settings that increases resource demands for playback requirement. In other words, warez 720p may still stutter without a recode.
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
Ok, the 1080p baseline video played and was just a little jittery but watchable. Then I tried high profile and I **** you not my Xoom rebooted but before it did that it said "sorry can't play this video". After rebooting, my Xoom will not play any videos... LOL. Gonna see if another reboot gets it back.
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
1080p Main and High profile will not play at all. Rebooting fixed my earlier issue.
[Xoom General] keitht:
Major stutter all the way through. Does have sound which appears to be in sync with the stuttering video.

Moto Xoom 3G HC 3.1 with stock video player and moboplayer.
[Xoom General] jdavid_t:
1. Motorola Xoom Wifi US

2. Android 3.1 stock (non-rooted)

3. Stock player and Moboplayer

4.

720p playback

Stock player

Baseline - flawless

Main and high - Like other people have pointed out: "a little hiccup when the beast gets shot in the eye and slides in the mud, but other than that, plays great."

Moboplayer

Baseline - flawless

Main and high - same results as in stock, although it would seem that it the quality overall is a little higher. But they show great.

The MKV container didn't work properly.
[Xoom General] vidriera:
The same exact thing happened to me, but it was like a soft reboot?? I didn't see the motorola dual core thing, I just saw the honeycomb animation. Anyway, after I rebooted AGAIN, the baseline 1920 video was IMMACULATE. There were zero problems, which is funny because before the high profile made my xoom **** itself, the baseline 1920 video was really choppy and had no audio. The main and high profile 1920 still refuse to play.

Again, this is a US Wifi Xoom running unrooted stock 3.1. Results were the same in moboplayer and stock video player.

Edit: I tried another 720p video that seemed choppier before this weird reboot, and it's now pretty smooth....My Xoom healed itself and I'm a believer???
[Xoom General] chaval:
Tested a 1280x528 High@L5.1 sample. Converted it from MKV to MP4 and Left the video unchanged but changed the audio to AAC Stereo.

It played very well!

1080p didn't go at all.

Seems that 720p at Highprofile is handled well after all.
[Xoom General] RadDudeTommy:
1. Xoom 3g

2. 3.1 UNrooted

3. Stock & mobi

4. I only ran 1280 Main, both stock and mobi flawwed when that beast mudslides after being shot in the eye. Stock also flawwed the mudslide after that whereas mobi played it smooth, not flawless, but smooth.
[Xoom General] rpavich:
-->1. Your tablet name & model

Transformer TF101

2. Android version

HC 3.0

3. Media player name & version

Stock Asus Player

4. Playback quality (smoothness, AV sync) for each clip

Baseline 1080 = fine with a few stutters, hardly noticeable.

Main 1080 = Pretty unwatchable

High 1080 = No way.
[Xoom General] Elysian893:
So now my question for the OP is, what's the point of testing a 1080p video file? Why would anyone in their right mind not reencode it to 720p when, even if it could play at 1080p, it'd just waste cpu cycles and battery life downsampling it anyways?
[Xoom General] quietas:
Probably because most of these new HC tablets are advertising 1080p output. I know both Acer and Asus mention 1080p playback when talking about the HDMI output and the video recording features.
[Xoom General] jamaicansolja:
So your asking why someone would want to be able to upload a 1080p video straight to the Xoom b4 encoding?

Is that a serious question ?
[Xoom General] Elysian893:
Is wasted battery life not a serious concern? I'd understand if it had a 1080p screen but it doesn't.

Not to mention the wasted space.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
The 1080p clips are to test the upper limit of the tablet's CPU, rather than for practical use. 1080p movies are size-constrained anyway, being around 10GB apiece.

Edit: On second thought, with USB host in 3.1, it would be very doable to attach a USB HDD with ample space storage. And with HDMI-out, 1080p would be preferable to 720p, assuming the tablet can handle it. In this docked configuration, the tab would presumably be plugged in, so power isn't an issue.

So far, the consensus seems to be that Tegra 2 & HC 3.1 can handle 720p high profile, albeit marginally and requiring MP4 container for native support. HC 3.0 can only handle 720p baseline. 1080p support is hard-capped to baseline for the stock player.
[Xoom General] treyatl2006:
All the 720p video files played beautifully..

Im on wifi xoom Android 3.1. Running the tiamat kernel...

I used the mobo player...

I was impressed. I havent even tried to download movies on my Xoom because I thought video playback was still horrible like on 3.0.1.

Edits:

I just tested the stock player and all the 720p files played beautiful on it also.
[Xoom General] thor17:
So what's the easiest/fastest way to do the remux and/or aac reencoding? What are these other settings which may require a reencode?
[Xoom General] galtom:
Could OP prepare exactly the same clips but in an mkv format? This is what is out there to download (99%) so even if it can play avi or mov in 3050p resolution it does not matter as all stuff from the net would have to get converted first.

Ideal situation would be... download, unrar/unzip, put on network storage or on tablet - watch.
[Xoom General] crushsuitandtie:
Just as a test, can anyone try different storage mediums for playback (Internal vs. SD vs. Network mapping)

I'd be interested in seeing if where it's playing from has anything to do with the varied results. Like maybe the internal storage doesn't read as fast as we'd originally hoped or thought.