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[Galaxy Tab General] SeanBlader:
I agree with this completely. I switched my Tab to use LauncherPro because Touchwiz is a load.

Also someone seems to think that the Flyer has a better quality build:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-ga...-the-htc-flyer-the-magic-evernote-tablet/4746

I'm not keen on it being heavier though. I do actually dig the stylus myself, and integrating with Evernote is a nice feature, but not for the weight or price. I'll wait for a better screen and even better battery life than the Tab.
[Galaxy Tab General] vince_junior:
comparing a first generation device to a second generation device is like comparing apples with oranges.
[Galaxy Tab General] maxtcee:
Sometimes newer isn't better
[Galaxy Tab General] Phone_Junkie:
I sold my Tab this past weekend and shipped it off yesterday morning. Man...I am missing it big time.
[Galaxy Tab General] ryn888:
Yeah. Galaxy Tab is a gorilla glass display. No need for screen protector. Thats why i love galaxy tab because of that. I dont use screen protector anymore.
[Galaxy Tab General] PBL1:
The tab wins because,...

-Despite of being a generation older, it performs great

-Because its hard to beat Samsung at screens/video/music

-Its got telephone (at least the international models) capability out of the box

-Despite the flyer highest camera specs it will be as mediocre as the tabs

-Weight less

-Its got a great dev base

-due to being an older model, there are some offers out there hard to beat:)

So unless the pen thing is a necessity the flyer does not warrant a device upgrade in MHO

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[Galaxy Tab General] peacekeeper05:
i wonder how long the battery life will be for the flyer.

knowing HTC being bad when it comes to battery life and also knowing that it runs at 1.5ghz, would the flyer have less battery life than our tab?

and i just found out that it doesn't have a gorilla glass. and is thicker and heavier than the SGT.
[Galaxy Tab General] vince_junior:
how sure are you? have you tried the flyer?
[Galaxy Tab General] hoss_n2:
Never forget the 1080p play back , the powerful Gpu , the hdmi output, gyroscope,camera flash &the complete gsm functions (calls , videocalls ,sms & mms ) the only bad thing about the tab is the white easily scratcehd back (i wish i could get the at&t battery cover :D)
[Galaxy Tab General] ariel123:
I just bought the tab for 300 off my friend brand new the sprint version. So far i like it. I love the fact that it has Adobe flash 10.3 the only thing that gets to me is that the browser automatically loads everything in mobile version. The battery life is great no complains. I haven't had the chance to try out other features. My sister has an ipad 2. I tried it out for a week before i got the tab. It doesn't compare to the tab. I love freedom and that's what the tab provides for me. I have been having my eyes on the flyer though i am a big HTC sense juice head lol but to pay the extra 250 just because of HTC sense is it really worth it? Can someone help me on making this decision. Is there a way of getting HTC sense on the tab or at least getting its widgets like the weather location clock and ECT...
[Galaxy Tab General] ariel123:
Thanks in advance
[Galaxy Tab General] PBL1:
Ok Ill expell it for you

The tab is an older device than the flier, but its performance (the tabs) is very good, even if the flier did perform equal or better than the tab, the tab does what it does very well, also the flier cpu is nothing to scream about, no something that would make me think gee...Ill sell the tab and upgrade to the flier, specially comparing the prices

HTC has the balls to produce a device with a stylus in a time when almost every single vendor think people should not be allowed to scribble in their devices, and I appreciate that and want devices and applications develop in that direction.

at the end of the day is a matter of opinion and personal needs

If I didn't have the tab perhaps Ill think about the flier a bit longer just enough to realize that I appreciate the tab phone capability more than the flier pen.

since and because I have the tab there is no contest...sorry HTC i love your devices and own several.... this time I pass, perhaps next time
[Galaxy Tab General] kable:
i played with a flyer today and must say I am very impressed with the speed. my Overcome v2 tab seemed woefully slow compared to it. I f a 3G version arrives i will grab one. if I pick up a Sensation then i might get the. wifi version. have to check battery life still. price aside. i gotta give it to the flyer. too bad my 30 day return just passed for my tab.
[Galaxy Tab General] pendevous:
I haven't tried the Flyer yet, but with the 2nd generation Gtabs just around the corner, and price tags designed to rival the iPad2, I don't have a reason to get the Flyer. Yes, Sense runs around Touchwiz, but I alreasy own a Tab with gingerbread and Overcome rom in it. If I would like to get a new tablet, then I might as well feel the Honeycomb and get tshe thin, 8.9 Tab.
[Galaxy Tab General] ryn888:
Galaxy tab is the best because of tue screen. Samsung uses their LCD screen for the tabs thats why its very clear and colorful like the amoled plus.
[Galaxy Tab General] A. Nonymous:
Hypothetically speaking if you had to choose between the wifi only Tab and the Flyer and both were at the $350 price mark, which would you take? Personally, I would take the Flyer and wouldn't think twice, but I'm a huge HTC fanboy. Not gonna lie.
[Galaxy Tab General] PBL1:
Me too, but that's my point.

The wifi tab has worst hardware than the P1000 and less capabilities.

Given the difference of age between the flier and the tab P1000, I feel it should be that much ahead of the P1000 at a similar price point.

And if the flier turns to be better (as it should be) tan the tab P1000, the tab is good enough and getting better +plus has some capabilities than the flier doesn't.

Add the price difference between the two devices and it became really hard to find a solid excuse to move from the tab P1000 to the flier
[Galaxy Tab General] GANJDROID:
Precisely. And people who would turn down a device just because it has HTC Sense is just ridiculous. That's just my own opinion though, but there I always going to be a rom full of AOSP/vanilla goodness for the haters.

Have you seen videos of the Flyer? My god, it's so brilliant how everything integrates. Its more intelligent than 80% of people on xda.

| Don't Revive Me Bro! |
[Galaxy Tab General] kairu1987:
quite agree with it!The price is the key
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PGibbons999:
Would this work for the Transformer? Works on iPad and cell phones but not the Xoom for some reason. Something about the Xoom needing a 12v port? I thought usb was usb, and it would charge no matter what...

http://www.amazon.com/ChargeBlock-8200mA-2-1amp-Portable-Battery/dp/tech-data/B004S5BCL4

I use a similar but smaller version for my droid x.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrykur:
Traanformers charger is rated at 15V @ 1.2 a
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FrayAdjacent:
It has two circuits, a 2.0A 5V circuit on the USB 2.0 standard pins and a 15V 1.2A circuit on the additional pins.

A standard USB charger would work, but it will only charge - and slowly at that - when the device is powered off.

This is the only sad thing to me at this point with the TF - impossible to get additional chargers!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] *Daedalus:
Just a thought, but if you're spending almost £70 on a charger, why not get the dock instead? (assuming you don't have it already)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scott2121210:
Hi. I am in desperate need of some help...I updated my hTc Desire HD from 2.2 to 2.3 but unfortunately had many issues with my internet, both 3g and wiFi. I finally had no alternative but to reset my device. I am basically having to start all over, however, my apps are still on AppBrain via the Web but I can't figure out how to sync them back to my device. Despite 'back up my settings' and 'automatic restore' being checked under the privacy setting absolutely nothing got retored! It is so annoying that this update caused so many issues and even after the reset my WiFi is still not working and 3g is intermittent. Any help would be much appreciated. Kind regards, Scott
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayge_:
Don't know id it will help you, but try in appbrain:

Manage and sync -> my list -> select one check the date -> add all apps.

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[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scott2121210:
Many thanks for your reply, unfortunately, this does not appear to work. Kind regards, Scott
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayge_:
Sorry for that. Hope you will find out.

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[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ToneyEricsson:
Hi Scott I had this issue with appbrain too - unfortunately I had to reinstall also. I am now using Titainium backup and that does restore all apps extremely well.

Sorry its not a solution to appbrain.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scott2121210:
Thank you. I had to eventually go through the very painful of reinstalling all of my apps manually! I remain very disgruntled because as I stated in my original post WiFi is still not working and I had to download and install all my apps via 3g which was intermittent and painfully slow. I do wish that I was able to revert back to 2.2 Froyo which I had no issues with. Kind regards, Scott
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ToneyEricsson:
For me appbrain only seems to sync apps on the DHD and shows when there is an update, not sure how to get it so apps are backed up on appbrain.

I would get Titainium backup if I was you as it backs up absolutely all apps and also system settings if you want also which makes everything much quicker when restoring.

There are also some other good backup apps about.

I have things like sms contacts etc backed up on my Google mail so automatically syncs from web to DHD.
[Venue Pro General] missionsparta:
http://wmpoweruser.com/editorial-microsoft-intervene-with-dell-now/

I can't thank them enough for not letting Dell off the hook. You know damn well that Dell is just trying to wait this thing out until it would be an outdated device anyhow and most of us just move on without them having to repair all these units.

As far as Dell wanting to refund some of us 50% of what we are paying (100% if you ask them, but it is 50% if you do the math) they should also have to buy us out of our mobile contracts, for those that signed a brand new contract in order to get this phone. I completely changed carriers to T-Mobile to get this device. Without the device I would have gone somewhere else. In the end, I feel these dead-beats (Dell board members in latin terms) owe me close to $1000 for this entire mess, in order to put me back in the same exact situation I was in before I got suckered into buying one of these lemons.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
I second that and lets wait for a response from Dell. Can you also tip wpcenteral and engadget on the same.
[Venue Pro General] missionsparta:
I have tipped engadget and gizmodo about 4 times each on this issue and that both don't seem to care.
[Venue Pro General] erebusting:
I agree, this is a good idea...
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
I think wmpoweruser is the only blog that will take this up, that's more their style to be confrontational. I tipped wpcentral but they seem too close to MS sources and wont want to rock the boat so they probably wont carry this. engadget and gizmodo's lack of response is not surprising since they are both pro-apple sites.
[Venue Pro General] missionsparta:
Which is exactly why I thought they would jump all over this and use this to report why Microsoft's business structure of relying on third parties to produce your hardware leaves you at their mercy.
[Venue Pro General] goldaar:
I sent it off to thisismynext.com, see if they will pick it up for something relating to customer service and business partnerships.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
I doubt anyone other than WMPoweruser will report it. The simple reason is that WMPU doesn't get any demo units/juicy stuff from Companies/MFG'rs. All the rest have a big parent company who has close relation with big companies and don't want to disturb the news supply chain. They don't have the balls to even speak-up unless its a widespread issue where they get to cover-up their ass.
[Venue Pro General] Homedesigner:
Looks like Dell has responded (or responded by its absence at the MS media party today)... they are stepping away from the consumer business.
[Venue Pro General] alodar1:
I would not go that far. From personal experience with MS and Dell , future mango testing cannot be done until the final firmware fix is in. The primary concern, so I'm told, is the reporting of memory. Without the final fix in place, they cannot test mango. My guess is that Dell has not provided a date yet. I know mango runs well on the VP with the test build of the firmware. It runs real well. I can't wait. If you look at the MS update about Dell, the book is not closed.

Update: Dell is not off the list of WP7 hardware manufacturers. Microsoft told us that the Round Rock gang simply isn't one of the "partners ready to go" do the Mango tango right now
[Venue Pro General] venelar:
I'm not looking for anything beyond mango, but seeing as how the at&t version just came out it would be really disheartening to not get mango.

Really hope you are right. I'm cautiously optimistic .
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Its taking this long to get a fix in place for existing phones, if they cant get it done I wont hold out hope for Mango if I were you. You are much better off just selling the phone then (if you can) and getting one from an OEM who has more experience making smartphones. For me if the DVP gets Mango is irrelevant as I will be importing the first Nokia WP7 handset I can, my only concern is using a crash-prone handset for 6 more months, not sure my sanity would be preserved after that much mental torture!
[Venue Pro General] alodar1:
...and this is it in a nutshell. All future updates are surely at risk, without the firmware update. though I personally think it will come, its easy for me to say because I'm one of the lucky ones with few problems with the phone. Until the update is out and working.....Mango is off the table for everyone because it does not offer the firmware fix...only Dell can do that
[Venue Pro General] missionsparta:
While a hand full of you have working devices; I have had 5 and all have been complete garbage. None of them can run day one WinMo7 OS for more than 10 minutes tops, without being a complete disaster. In all honesty, I can't see any of the 5 I have had running Mango without going into cardiac arrest.
[Galaxy S II General] shawt:
Hi guys,

I used GPS for first time with my new SGS2. I was surprised how phone was hot. I had SGS but I never had any problem. GPS program is Sygic, I used same car charger, which I used for SGS. I drove home maybe 10min and phone was realy very hot, the screen also,back of the phone. Do you have same problem or do you think my phone is faulty? :mad:
[Galaxy S II General] ZaKaTRoN:
Mine after 30 min surfing the internet is very hot (next to the camera and screen on top). Also i am worried about that...

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[Galaxy S II General] shawt:
Yes this I have same, but it is still OK compare to GPS and charging.
[Galaxy S II General] cmd512:
GPS + charge is always a hit or miss. My SGS was a little better, but my HTC Touch Pro 2 got blazing hot. All depends on the device, I'm more worried about the long term effects of such temperatures to the camera, which is in very close proximity.
[Galaxy S II General] XdaPete:
I noticed when using sygic with gps that the battery continues to drain even when using the car charger.
[Galaxy S II General] skibadee:
There's a good answer to that. I had a cheap generic USB car charger and noticed it drained quicker than it charged. The reason is down to a pin on the USB connector. Your phone will only charge at rate it would if plugged to a PC. Buy a genuine Samsung car charger (about a tenner) and it uses fast/full charge. I think they remove/link pins which tell it how to charge. I also found it doesn't get as hot with a genuine charger :)
[Galaxy S II General] Mittaa:
Maby I can confirm this ...

Was on a 1 hour trip using navigation.

My screen brightness was about 20%

Did not get warm and charged +6% :)

I use a standard Samsung charger.
[Galaxy S II General] shawt:
True is, I have non original car charger, but I bought some cheap one. Never charge my SGS, just kept at the same level. So I am going to buy original from Samsung.
[Galaxy S II General] charnsingh_online:
When ur using anything Radio and/or charging for a long time its gonna get hot, by hot i mean burning hot. On my sgs, nexus one, cliq when i am on long phone calls (>30min) and charging they all get hot, and get hot when using gps even when not charging. GPS on SGS is a hit or a miss though, barely use that phone for gps
[Galaxy S II General] habs101:
Don't listen to peopel telling you it's the charge that is causing the phone to heat up.

thats just nonsense.

Its the 1.2ghz cpu.. and the close tight body of the phone.

I had the Atrix, and after 10-15 of heavy usage or just gps, the bottom portion near the sim area would be hot to the touch.

Think about it this way.

Why do laptops even in such tight close spaces have some fan going? because things get hot.

Stop the fan on a laptop and let the heatsink just do the work and it will burn u.

Its just the thep hone despensing the heat.

I personally dont' think phones with 1.2ghz processors should be made so small, and not have some time of active cooling.

Seriously even if my NAS Server with a marvell 1.2ghz CPU has some type of cooling fan!

this is just ridiculous
[Galaxy S II General] haasgo:
Mine also tends to heat up. I then always take off the case and try to get it cooled down somehow. But i've experienced it myself: half an hour gps+navigation=processor hot as hell and battery drained down from 85% to 15%...hope the latest firmware update fixes this...and btw: heat is not very good for any kind of battery. It makes them drain faster afaik!

Cheers
[Galaxy S II General] demondor:
Mine also heats up while browsing the net and gaming but it's never exceeded 36 degrees.
[Galaxy S II General] Bart1981:
Well I have a 1mA charger which I used with my HTC Desire to charge it during driving and navigating. It worked well with my HTC Desire (the HTC Desire also needs a pin connection, otherwise it won't charge fast enough during navigating) but the same charger did not work very well with the SGS2. Yesterday during navigation the battery level dropped slowly... Even though I used the same charger as I used with my HTC Desire.
[Galaxy S II General] ZaKaTRoN:
What program are you using to check temperature?

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[Galaxy S II General] shawt:
I did not have this problem with Samsung Galaxy S I think it was ok. Galaxy S 2 is much more hotter.
[Galaxy S II General] skibadee:
Hmm that's odd. I'm using the same charger I used for my sgs '1'. I have to admit not tried navigation on my sgs2 yet for a long drive. Will have to test this.
[Galaxy S II General] ChrisDay:
Yeah,u are right~

The competion of thickness between samsung and apple,or other android os manufucture like S.E has crushed samsung's mind.To elicit applause,the Korean giant just sacrificed the stability to make a both thin and powerful phone.

It's hard to say the choice is wise or not.But we can already find this company is becoming upset due to the pressure from the opponents.
[Galaxy S II General] artesea:
Did Lincoln to London (135miles), phone in cradle with brightness 100%, CamerAlert and Google Navigation running, powered via USB converter in the car.

Battery went up about 1% every 20 minutes.

Phone out of cradle at the end wasn't hot to touch unlike every other phone I've had.
[Galaxy S II General] tamas970:
IT seems that samsung has a quality variation. Did you use a brand charger or an aftermarket one?
[Galaxy S II General] shawt:
Ok guys i am quite worried now. I played game about 10min and the top half of the phone is quite hot again. Do you have same problem or should I take mine back to a shop? I do not think this is normal right?
[Galaxy S II General] shawt:
OK, I called the Samsung support and they gave me contact for there's service. So I am thinking to take my phone there nad a man said that they should test my phone there,if is anything wrong. So I probably try.
[Galaxy S II General] artesea:
It was one of those market stall two port USB Cigarette Lighter things, with the official USB cable.
[Galaxy S II General] SBS_:
I've tested this for a couple of hours with brightness on 100%, with a 1A car-charger (HTC), running GPS software (Sygic). It was a sunny day with 20C(68F) outside and the SGSII was mounted in the sun. It didn't get hot at all and was kept at 100% charge, quite the difference from my N1 which would get quite hot with this use.
[Galaxy S II General] AngelAbaddon:
I used mine alongside Copilot for a 3 hour trip and a few smaller trips down in Coventry, and it does get quite a bit hot (OK to hold but along the lines of what you'd expect a hot drink cup to feel like) then cool down. I used it a few times off battery and while it did obviously use more battery than normal, it didn't destroy it (Nothing like the 1/2 hour drain some people are describing). I'm wondering if the apps people are using to navigate are causing the wild fluctuations in what people are experiencing? I'd imagine Copilot to use a more processing power since it renders the maps itself off the SD rather than pulling them off Google or such like.
[Galaxy S II General] Mittaa:
Was on a 1 hour trip using IGO = render from SD

My screen brightness was about 20%

Did not get warm and charged +6%

I used a standard Samsung charger

I do not have a lot of widgets or updates running in background ... maby this is part of the explanation ?

What about screen protectors and skins ... do they add to the head?
[Galaxy S II General] XdaPete:
I bought the Samsung CAD300UBEC charger and it still seems to loose 1-2% charge per half hour. Did I buy the wrong charger or is there something else I can do?
[Galaxy S II General] riz157:
I also find mine gets extremely hot near the camera which is very concerning. Got one exchanged already not sure what's causing it.
[Galaxy S II General] oawalker:
Yea same here i think its normal for most if not all gs2 phones.
[Galaxy S II General] mooock:
I just upgraded my SGS1 to SGS2. and i also see a insane drain when using the phone. Wifi, 3G, GPS, auto screen is enable. and if the screen is off. its cool. but if using the phone in anyway, it gets fast hot. and it seems the phone will last about 1 hour if turned on. i use battery graph. And never seen such battery drain on the SGS1 even from the start battery problem with the first firmware.
[Galaxy S II General] Therollingstone:
Its the 1.2ghz cpu.. and the closed tight body of the phone , it should seem like normal , cuz Iphone's processor is also getting hot while using , although it covers with glass and copper coating..
[Galaxy S II General] mooock:
Its not a big problem about how hot it gets. it more how much battery it drains when in use. before with SGS1 it was always the problem about it didnt get idle and in standby it used alot of battery. thats not the problem with SGS2
[Galaxy S II General] staneboy2003:
Heat + Problem

Hi guys,

I have a BIG problem to....

when i keep my display on (example if i play any game or simple navigate into the menu...or anything else doesn't mater..just keep display on)....my S II became very hot near camera and then begin to open random applications like desktop clock,PC connection manager(my cable is not plugin),voice command....etc..

And another problem if is hot display do not torn off (Random)

I have this phone about 7 days...

Anyone has this problem ?

Do you guys now if is a hardware problem or a Firmware problem(KE2)

Thanks!