yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Infuse 4G] DangKid:
I came from an iPhone 3G to a Samsung Infuse 4G about 3 months ago.

I was on the fence just like you were. I really enjoyed the iPhone and I just didn't want to let go of the iPhone experience. But then I did some research on the Infuse. Let me break the pros/cons for you.

Infuse Pros:

larger screen

better camera (front is 1.3MP and rear is 8MP)

over the air updates

widgets

Gorilla glass front

Super AMOLED screen

Can use the device as a portable HDD

4G HPSA

1700mAh battery

Syncs everything with Gmail automatically through wifi (email, calendar, contacts)

MicroSD compatible to increase storate (internal is 13GB, comes with 2GB MicroSD and can be expanded to 32GB giving a total of 45GB)

Takes 2 seconds to find the unlock code

Infuse Cons:

back is plastic (makes it super light)

Android (could be bad also!)

Must wait for ATT for phone updates unless you want to flash it custom roms

Files can be spread all over the phone's storage (must move things over manually)

Infuse personal preferences:

Size

Android

weight (lighter)

Touch sensitive buttons

customization

iPhone 4 Pros:

2 choices of color

Higher resolution screen

Apple branding

Higher resale value (not much though)

Phone just works

More apps

Can use iTunes giftcards for songs or for apps

iPhone Cons:

death grip

1420mAH battery

Can't use as a portable HDD

Can't save contacts to SIM card (unless you jailbreak, it's still a pain to do)

iPhone personal preferences:

weight

iTunes

iOS

weight (heavier)

Too many boxes everywhere!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] hegemytouch:
Infuse all the way...i just gave my girlfriend my iphone and i got the infuse...the iphone got a retina display but also your struggling to see on that tiny 3.5 inch screen...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bradbusa:
iphone who?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Mr.Brosnan:
Depends on what your looking for. If you get an iphone you get a phone that doesn't usually have too many problems. But your st.ck with what you get.

The Samsung infuse has its good set of problems but is unbricable. Though its size is a bit much to handle with one hand, its great for the eyes.

Basically, if you want something that Will more than likely always work. Get an iphone. If you don't mind the occasional break or error which can be resolved via a custom Rom then get an infuse.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] StoneColdCarl:
If you can, wait for the iphone 5 and sgsii, and compare those two.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] TheCajun:
Infuse all the way, I want something I can customize completely. Every person I know that has an Iphone, wants my phone.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] ReconRob:
So, NEO. Why isn't this thread closed? Or are we picking and choosing?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] NeoS:
www.iphone-developers.com

Do your own research and make a choice. Comparison threads like this ususally start out in flaming and trolling.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
All Motorola DEFY users in:

Singapore

,

Indonesia

,

Malaysia

,

Philippines

,

Thailand

,

Vietnam

also

India

&

South Africa

Here comes the official RE-Release Stock Froyo Update!
[Defy Android Development] SiL3nTKiLL:
cant wait to try this!
[Defy Android Development] farsight73:
Already running french official froyo 2.2.2 Build number 3.4.2-164.

Is it the same apart from the Bahasa language added?

I'm also running the latest flash player 10.3.185.22.

Should I upgrade it again to this official South East Asia release? Any better doing it?
[Defy Android Development] dieandromeda:
nice... gonna try it asap.
[Defy Android Development] hailmary:
Now its the SEA ROM

I think this will be blurless like the original eclair.

Nice info mate.will keep an eye on this gor my mates here.
[Defy Android Development] willbeh:
Updated it last night. Notice that there are a few new apps install together with it.

Been using Launcher pro thus don't notice much speed difference. Maybe will to uninstall and try the stock launcher.

Any of you notice that the green shade is darker than in 2.1.
[Defy Android Development] hailmary:
Well I use the same rom u have..imho I dont need to flash to this sbf,unless you go after your store warranty for claims,then its a good move.

Plus the thought that this will be blurless,im after the blur & its a great use to me.

If dont like blur,i suggest u get the SEA.
[Defy Android Development] hailmary:
Whoahhh.can u do a upload mirror mate.tnx
[Defy Android Development] dieandromeda:
yea. i use nordic froyo as well along with deaodexed apps/framework. so far no problem.. i hope there are something new..
[Defy Android Development] fantasy8:
thank x!

good job.
[Defy Android Development] JackSparrow17:
Waiting for SBF.....:)
[Defy Android Development] farsight73:
Well, I use some of the blur too and my french vesion 2.2.2 is doing great so far. I might just stick with it until I totally, urgently and desperately need to send my defy to Moto Service Centre, then I'll flash the Asia Official release.

:D
[Defy Android Development] mrnexusone:
thanks bro will try this tonight:p
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
Dammit,

how come only Singapore which can install this update?

Why other country on SEA cannot find this update on that moto website.

How come this could happen?

We live in same region (SEA), and it is upgrade for SEA region.

And it noted on Froyo upgrade documentation which says this update can be used by users on SEA region...

But why we cannot do upgrade?

i wrote it to motorola support forum,

hope they answer my question.

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/39441?start=465&tstart=0

i think it just miscommunication,

i think they forget to check [this-country-is-okay-to-download] option..
[Defy Android Development] nitski:
just updated my phone selecting Singapore as home region. it took a while to update my phone but no problems encountered.

just make sure that you have installed drivers for your defy.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
this:

there's no update for me

i tried to downgrade to eclair first, is that necessary?

it only can detect my imei, but not the device and operator.
[Defy Android Development] nitski:
is there someone here who saved the official SBF? i forgot to save the SBF while updating the phone. if it's not much of a trouble, could it be uploaded and also for the benefit of other members who have trouble in updating. TIA!
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
that's what we really NEED..

update from crappy moto update is not comfortable..

please keep the SBF file for us..
[Defy Android Development] nitski:
in my case, i was using CM7. i downgraded first to the original/stock firmware of my phone before proceeding with the update.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
eclair stock?

nandroid+fixed sbf right?
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
not only for india mate...

SEA-15 is including indonesia, malaysia, filipina, thailand, vietnam.

they pulled the update for those country..

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[Defy Android Development] raghul:
i flashed the SBF for INDIAN FROYO given here by "ankit360" and it has been awesome!! the gallery loads really slow for the first time and after that its blazing fast!! and i have 1800 pics and 40+videos :) and the overall response of the phone has gone phenomenally upwards....

i loaded it with 70+ apps and games and the scrolling has not lagged even a bit!!

rooted the phone without hassle with superoneclick from here "http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=803682"

before i had the "fritolay's barebone rom"

battery life has improved dramatically for ME....

and the games are lag free(HD games like sandstorm, golf, angry birds etc)

did not try the bluetooth... transfer of files work that much i know... have not tested is extensively though...

GPS is perfect... used Ndrive, it locked spot on!! :)

the screen does not freeze when there is incoming call(even if u were playing a game )

and the quadrant score is 1182

that my first impression on the 2.2.2(indian)

ohh ya and these all were without overclocking ... :)
[Defy Android Development] NashXDA:
I cant seem to find - English [India] in Locale under Language & Keyboard settings

Can others from India Confirm this is the case

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
then it is not there ok
[Defy Android Development] ankit360:
Can we all indian ppl request motorala to add Hindi local on rom? I will create separate thread for this and tell you how to do that.
[Defy Android Development] boonhoong:
The bugs in SEA 15 is not in SEA 18?
[Defy Android Development] netarchie:
Not there on mine too! updated from moto site to 2.2 when the update was available!
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
There seems to be lot of bugs in this release thats why they might have pulled it off just after release. My cpu usage shoots off to 100% a few mins after using most apps, and it stays that way even when idling. Can't seem to find whats using it. Only way to get back to normal and preserve the battery is to reboot. Anyone else noticed this?
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
Will I lose my warranty if i flash this??

Have to goto Moto service soon so i'll wait....

Will they take it to 2.2??
[Defy Android Development] Ph1b:
delete please
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
you can use the Singapore update files

http://goo.gl/9WVtb

read the pdf it says even the users in india can update it.

i updated my phone when the window in india was open now i cannot see moto defy dont know why whats the problem with 2.2.2.

i think you can safely update to Singapore sea15 version :)
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
u cannot update like this.
[Defy Android Development] farsight73:
What kind of bugs in the released to India, Malaysia, Thailand, Phillipines that differ apart from Singapore released??

I'm currently using French official released 2.2.2 and it working great. Havent' found any bug so far. Would like to use the official SEA if it proven bugs free..
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
so india ka update vapis kab aaye ga ??....( when will india get an update again??)
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
I have updated in the window period. The device is ok, except for some instability wrt cpu usage. Dun is gone. Neither usb nor bluetooth teethering is working. When mini usb is plugged in, "charge only" option is gone. So you can charge the device from laptop only in portal, media, and sdcard mode. Apn toggle isn't working properly and i have lesser control over mobile data usage. Had to disable it from deep down from settings. Opera browser keeps on crashing, had to uninstall it. Few other minor glitches, else its working fine
[Defy Android Development] JackSparrow17:
Jab Motorola Chahega....(When Motorola want...:D)
[Defy Android Development] farsight73:
Isn't there's an option of "none" when plugging the usb cable so you could charge it?

Sent from my awesome Moto Defy - XDA Premium
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
guys here are the links on Motorola forums for why the update has been pulled off https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/51521?tstart=0

also other thread of Poor Performance and Bugs in Official Froyo 2.2.2 India https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/51353?tstart=0
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
Ya my mistake. Earlier it was charge only. Now changed to none. It tried 'none' and it didn't charged it. Now again tried it and its charging. Btw i found the culprit using all my cpu and battety. Its the android system and as i can't fc it , i have no other option than reboot.
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
One more thing noted is the change in notification led. Now it flashes bright white sometimes, like when calling, or using advanced task killer, or when doggcatcher auto update feeds. Dont know the real trigger. Any one else?
[Defy Android Development] memz180:
Yer same with mine it flashes some kind of whitish colour on 2.2.2 never saw this with 2.1
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
Have any one of you with sea15 2.2 managed to get dialupnetworking dun working. I cannot use usb or bluetooth teethering. The modem isn't responding. All i can do to use phones internet is wifi teethering which eats up lot if battery.
[Defy Android Development] farsight73:
May be free easytether lite would help to replace the usb tethering? Or the all in one PDAnet but this you need to buy it to get the full version.
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
I installed PDAnet and re-paired the device with the PC. This time the driver for "standard bluetooth modem on link x" got installed and it started working again, even after uninstalling PDAnet. Thnx that tricked did it for me.
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
for me bluetooth drivers were accepted and it even showed dun in network connections. only thing i did not see was the gprs / edge apn settings which i can see in miui and cyanogen mod but battery would go down.
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
APN settings are under settings>wireless & network settings>mobile network settings>Access point names.

hope this helps. they have changed these in 2.2.2 i guess.
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
i meant i could not see the apn settings in the like gprs or edge in Access point names
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
They are visible in my set by tapping the access points.
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
can anything can be done to reduce cpu usage in the system. some file will be causing problem
[Defy Android Development] nicksti:
I have not been able to get the update through Motorola.

I have:

System version

Moto_Version.2.59.0.MB525.Retail.en.CH18

Firmware version

2.1-update1

Baseband version

EPU93ST2_U_03.0E.02

Will i be able to use this SEA18 SBF? Any baseband issues?
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
u cannot if the update is removed or is not there and check at the frequency in which ur operator operates.
[Defy Android Development] livresetmusique:
is the sbf (for india) exactly like the stock 2.2 firmware or is it with some changes? what is the use of nandroid backup after flashing with sbf??
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
Some people had limited success after hard reset (not soft reset). Have u tried that.
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
i meant if we can make a custom firmware which solves that problem if it is possible
[Defy Android Development] celestar32:
I have problem viewing youtube videos. There is no images only sound. It happened after rooted and installing defy 2nd init.
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
I have hard reset my phone. Its working rock solid since 5-6 hrs. No cpu over usage by system, no hanging till now. I had to waste a lot of time reinstalling my apps back. Lets see if remains stable.
[Defy Android Development] memz180:
Its better to install a nandroid backup and flash with the fixed sbf so that you can downgrade if needed. :D
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
Well the hanging problem occurred once again. This time it was initiated after killing unnecessary processes by advanced task killer. So as stable as eclair i guess.
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
So any issues afterwards....did you reset your phone from recovery (power + vol up button) or did you reset from android (/Settings/Privacy/Factory Reset)??
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
I reset it from recovery yesterday. There were abt 120 third party apps installed on it before. Since reset i have managed to autoinstall abt 70 apps. Haven't used all of them, but phone hung like earlier with cpu on 100% by system after using advanced task killer once. Later it rebooted itself when i connected to wifi. This auto reboot is the first time in my four months of use. Typo, i wanted to say that it is not as stable as eclair. But just working ok for now. Lets see today how many times i have to reboot.
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
Well i am sure that problem of system using all the cpu without any reason and hanging hasn't vanished as yet. It occurred again after i finished my previous post and since then i had to reboot thrice. So it stays very unstable as yet.
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
use cyanogen or miui forget this unless someone can make changes in memory maangement. i dont know anything about rom modding and its command.
[Defy Android Development] morteza-25:
does SEA-18 support Arabic/Persian language in browser and message and ... ??
[Defy Android Development] dieandromeda:
sea 15 look the same like hk official froyo which already released earlier.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1085997

i'm using sea18, so far so good.
[Defy Android Development] memz180:
Is it possible for you to make a nandroid back up for us which sbf file did you flash ?

Cheers
[Defy Android Development] memz180:
One more thing has anyone installed cm7 on this version of froyo does it work ?

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
i have installed cm7 on sea-15 sbf
[Defy Android Development] memz180:
Ok sweet i got the nandroid back up of sea-15 running right now ill try loading up cm7 onto it see what happens thanks for the info
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
Anyproblems ?? or its working great as it should be working like on the nordik rom ;)
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
ok make sure you do not install CM7 directly on this rom, else boot looping.

Please follow the cyanogenmod7 FAQ point 7. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1065798

i tried and was stuck on boot loop.

Again FLASHED this sea15 sbf via rsd lite back to square1 now need to start the process all again.:)
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
i was using miui before it then flash cm7 nightly first then flashed rc0 later when it came and in that way cm7 is working for me.
[Defy Android Development] memz180:
I flashed CM7 and got stuck in a boot loop also and had to reflash the fixed sbf of sea15 to get it back running so flash NORDIC I or II before cm7 to avoid problems
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
miui works on sea-15. afterwards i had flashed cm7 and i did not get loop.

UPDATE: These countries have been temporarily removed. We're working on providing a explanation for this. 5/31/11

this was made int he motorola forum
[Defy Android Development] hitanshu:
Rachit,

I went the other way around - installed 3.4.3-11 UK - CM7 worked lovely with beta5.1 - then I've gotten my fingers burnt with one of the nightlies of CM7 here at:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14459293&postcount=5990

The 3.4.3-11 UK blur is not working and all I am getting is a bootloop.

Can I flash this SEA-15 SBF for India? or even that will be a waste of time? Please advise/help!! Should I flash the Nordic instead? I have all 3 full SBFs. I just want the phone to work for now!
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
use nordic if u want cm7 as many have problems
[Defy Android Development] memz180:
The best way i found to get to CM7 and still have downgrade ability is this firstly dont worry about SEA15 because you have to install all this miui zip crap to much hassle

The best way is go to the NORDIC thread and download the nandroid back up restore to this and then flash with the fixed sbf Nordic

Then once in go back to your recovery and install cm7 done
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
Do one thing if you are f###ed up with all the rom... flash sea 15 (2.2.2) via rsd lite. i did the same thing and now its working all fine..(but still 2.2.2 have default problems on cpu overshoot and 3d graphics )

Now if its good for you then all ok. but if you wish to play with cm7 then follow the FAQ on cm7 and check out point 7. i think it will be useful to play safe with your rom.
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
Which freq is nordic on..

After nordic any problems on baseband (frequencies)....do we need to apply 3g fix
[Defy Android Development] mlkz:
why you guys from India says this SEA-15 has so many problem?

i have no problem at all with this SBF..
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
In the inbuilt taskmanager, if u click the setting of notification for high cpu usage, u might notice that the cpu usage sometimes shoots up to 100% even when the phone is idling, causing most apps to respond a bit sluggishly. If this hasn't happened to you, then u are lucky with your froyo.
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
yes you are right , even if you use SYSTEM MONITOR you can see the spikes and overshoots on cpu usage. Its bad
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
2.59 had only 254 files in system app (apks+odex) as per my nandroid and in 2.2 there are 303 (apks+odex) as per sea-15 sbf
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
is there any way to open ...cram the cgxx.smg files on windows 7 platform..??
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
i found this

http://www.mmus.us/forum/showthread.php?t=10327&highlight=squashfs+cg36
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
for our defy sbf files which cg can be opened....any idea where i can get each , cg's description..ie for eg :: cg31.smg is for what and other stuffs..(check sums ..)
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
try sbfrecal.

does not show all names
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
are these tools working for our sbf files...please check, i am having some problem will update it later
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
the tools did not work.

the problems are caused by sbf or system
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
hey, one secret...i was a modder on ezx system...did some itty bitty modding and made roms for A1200, so i think that tools are for old sbf files..;)
[Defy Android Development] mlkz:
are you guys trying to playing with SBF file?

i know the set tools for that..

i got it from many sources, here's my toolkit:

-SBF Depacker ---> depacking sbf into many smg file

-SMG Depacker (explore2fs-1.07) ---> depack cg39.smg to get /system partition

-smgver.exe ---> tools for check SMG version

-unyaffs and mkyaffs ---> tools for depacking nandroid image, and repack it

http://www.mediafire.com/?07hnd3kyphxcmd9
[Defy Android Development] kirpeace:
great thank you.
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
thks great
[Defy Android Development] forthe:
Guys, i am fed up by the instability of this indian froyo. Thinking of changing to a more stable version. Could you suggest any other more stable froyo rom to flash which is very power efficient and compliant with indian base band. I also dont want to loose my warranty, so a method to revert back to original rom must exist. Tia
[Defy Android Development] farsight73:
Get the official French retail 2.2.2 froyo. It's very stable and good rom. No problem with root and downgrade ability.

Sent from my awesome Moto Defy Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium
[Defy Android Development] rachit2588:
Flash up on gingerbread rom...i was also on this sea15 but now i have flashed the gingerbread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1106375 and its really rocking....even the battery lasts for 40 hours if you are moderate on wifi and 3g..
[Defy Android Development] mlkz:
is there any explanation why until now update via MSU for SEA Region still shutted down!?
[Defy Android Development] ankit360:
SEA15 release week back is laggy, incomplete and contain virus :eek:

i recommend all ppl to not use it
[Defy Android Development] mlkz:
any official motorola statement about why sea15 is not available anymore?

Motorola FAIL to provide froyo on Q2 2011 for SEA region...

EPIC, EPIC, EPIC FAIL!
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
^

here mate,

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/39441?start=1395&tstart=0

i just got slapped by motorola official forum manager :)

becuse i'm too rude out there :D
[Defy Android Development] hailmary:
FTW mate,hahahaha
[Defy Android Development] hailmary:
that is sooo cool..hahaha
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
:)

"The upgrade was available for a short time in Q2 but was removed for details I am not yet privy to."

Privy my ass..!!
[Defy Android Development] F.Ace:
INFO

12. Jul 5, 2011 5:07 AM (in response to TRose)
Re: DEFY: Upgrade/Update News for Non-U.S. Models

India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, South Africa live on MSU again.

Thanks for your patience.

Source SW:

JRDNEM_U3_2.51.0EPU93ST2_U_03.0A.01

JRDNEM_U3_2.59.0EPU93ST2_U_03.0E.02

Target SW:

JEM_3.4.3-33-1.7

Rolling out now.