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[Android Apps and Games] Izzysoft:
Which means: Updating from 1.x to 2.x generally involves a complete reconfiguration, ugh... Poor guy who has 100+ apps installed :D
[Android Apps and Games] ukanth:
Yes, Little bit. But it does support batch disable/enable, which simplifies the job :-)
[Android Apps and Games] Abetting:
Assume one had a backup of app data in /data/data.com.lbe..

From English security master. Uninstall. Install Chinese security master. Restore app prefetnces to data data

Then?
[Android Apps and Games] Izzysoft:
That could work. Though I never tried. All I read about things like that is as soon as you alter some *.apk, you need to re-sign it. And as you do not have the developers certificate, the signature differs and Android no longer assumes both packages to be just different versions of the same app, but rather different apps. Would be very interesting if I got that right :D
[Android Apps and Games] BlackPit666:
like i said :rolleyes:
[Android Apps and Games] DirkStorck:
Hi. somehow it stopped working for me.

I used it to deny the GPS for facebook app whitch worked perfectly but somehow it stopped working....facebook can get GPS again.....any ideas?
[Android Apps and Games] ukanth:
There is a separate support forum topic for LBE V2, if yours is related to V2

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1328000
[Android Apps and Games] Bogart's Falcon:
LBE App Management

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[Android Apps and Games] Jonnit:
Only issue I have with this app, is it stops GPS locating applications from acting remotely. Example being Lookout Security and it's Missing Handset function.

If I gave it permissions of course it would work fine, but there's no reason why you would use the lost phone function of the app. till the crucial time when it's already been lost.

I ought to have thought of this before installing the app and given it necessary privileges.

I've now lost my phone because of this application as Lookout security, I believe, wouldn't be able to turn on my GPS because of this app. requesting permission to allow it to turn on my GPS.

I've sent an e-mail to the team who support it so I'm hoping they have a solution or a way to disable the firewall temporarily from a remote source. This app. also blocks the use of Plan B, Lookout's second choice to finding your phone if lost.

Absolute disaster.
[Android Apps and Games] Sam Sung:
I'm late to this particular party, but if you think FB and Google are somehow 'safer' than this dev, you should immediately take the Blue Pill. Both have made public statements that should give you cause for great concern.

And FB has changed its privacy policy more than once without notifying its users, exposing what they intended as private info between friends to the world. Without apology. With intent, in fact. The little guy believes that your private information should be accessible to all.

Google collects so much data about you, they know you better than you know yourself. Have a read. Here's their take on it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/07/google-ceo-on-privacy-if_n_383105.html

http://royal.pingdom.com/2010/01/08/how-google-collects-data-about-you-and-the-internet/

Googles stated mission:

"Google’s stated mission is “to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful” and it is making good on this promise. However, Google is gathering even more information than most of us realize."

If you don't trust this program, fine. Don't use it. But don't believe for a minute that Google is your friend. If you think that all of the android/tablet/internet services that you don't pay for are free, think again.

And, while you may have a legitimate concern (although in this case, I think it has been shown that LBE PG is legit), you are going from the frying pan to the fire if you believe that you are somehow safer with Google et al.

To put it in perspective, an individual might steal your identity, credit card info, etc. Nasty, but not irrecoverable. You should be careful of that.

The corporate information mongers, however, will steal your life. Privacy? Gone. With privacy goes free will, free thinking and free lifestyle.

George Orwell may have gotten the date wrong, but only by 30 years or so.

Tin foil thinking? Perhaps, but not by much.
[Android Apps and Games] p107r0:
and small addendum to your post, regarding CIQ: "The Rootkit Of All Evil – CIQ" and "Carrier-IQ Tries To Sue TrevE"
[Android Apps and Games] Sam Sung:
Thanks for this. Your 'addendum' is definitely an eyeopener!
[Android Apps and Games] anonymous572:
Is there any information about the working ability on Android 4.0?
[Android Apps and Games] BlackPit666:
im running it on the nexus s with all ics builds so far, but it doesnt automatic start with the phone and is sometimes just disappearing

but all in all, its working, you just need to have an eye on it ;)
[Android Apps and Games] anonymous572:
Thanks for your reply. I hope this will be fixed before Android 4.0 will be released for my device.
[Android Apps and Games] BlackPit666:
for me these 2 bugs are not that big... start it on every restart and always watch if there is an icon on the left top ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bonanza123:
here is an opensource solution/replacement for LBE:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1357056
[Android Apps and Games] mikk_:
Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] hirak99:
The open source solution is good, but it is only for a certain few handsets unless you use CyanogenMod. For example, there seems to be no way to use it on stock Galaxy S2, though I could be mistaken and would love to know if it is possible.
[Android Apps and Games] baka2x:
PDroid works for all deodexed roms, stock or custom.
[Android Apps and Games] finneginsfast:
I've got LBE blocked by both it's own program as well as Droidwall and have no activity shown as it trying to gain access to a network.
[Android Apps and Games] krzych:
I'm not sure that "built-in" log of DroidWall shows everything - sometimes I expect to see something there, and there's emptiness. Like for example not working VNC server while DroidWall is active (and logs nothing), and immediately starts working while DroidWall is inactive. Cannot tell that DroidWall is good enough. I would trust only iptables chain with log everything target. And trusting LBE blocks itself is naive - it's like kernel module "iptables" blocking kernel network traffic or snake eating his own ass...

PS. I really hate DroidWall's behavior colliding with VNC and sshdroid especially (don't know that ssh problem still exists, but it was a fact months ago)
[Android Apps and Games] :
I understand you are frustrated with the developer of LBE and not happy with the implementation of DroidWall. I was hoping you would provide some kind of solution after making your points.

I have been using LBE since version 2. I have noticed the app was renamed with "lite" suffix -- suggesting there would be a Pro version out soon. I actually would like to pay for the app to make sure the developer will not leave us in cold, I know that could happen regardless.

The app hasn't been updated for months when they are obvious bugs in the application. I have no idea what has happened to the developer and I hope he/she is in a good health. But I have to admit, I have started thinking maybe I gave too much trust to this app already.

I don't mean to direct the following statement to the LBE's developer only but to all other developers as well. I've been looking to purchase my apps from the vendors Google has given "Top Developer" ranking. Once the majority of users follow the same trend then the competition is only among the Top Developers in Android Market and for the rest there is no business viability to even give it a try. In less than three years time over 70% of current developers will disappear from the market. Please remember, many developers create apps that alteady in on the market. Users would eventually want to have options between 2 and 3 apps to choose from, not from zillions of the same apps.

Edit1:

If I'm going to uninstall LBE then my immediate concerns is to control the apps I don't wish to connect to the internet, known as Program Control in windows firewalls. What would you recommand as a temp solution please? Thank you.

Edit2:

It looks like LBE 3.0 beta and its details has just been posted in another thread under the same forum. Good!

Edit3:

The LBE Privacy Guard has been renamed and it features a virus scanner engine?
[Android Apps and Games] Razer(x):
EDIT: sorry
[Android Apps and Games] rogier666:
Avast has a good firewall built in. You can keep apps out of WiFi and mobile data just like you can with LBE and DroidWall, but avast gives you an extra option that the others don't: block data when roaming only.
[Android Apps and Games] cliff03:
Is LBE still closed source?
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
Personally I would rather have the corporations know about my purchasing habits, location, etc so they can better market me or make better apps then some seedy individual who is likely to actually ruin the next five years of my life with identity fraud.

Privacy gone? Yeah buddy, it's been gone from the moment we started using Google/FB (Gmail, Android, Facebook, it's all the same thing to me)

But to act like free will and free thinking disappears because Google knows where I am or what I buy, is silly.

What is definitely a threat IMO, is some "guy" who has a closed source app that has a backstage pass to all my info.

Make your choices wisely. It's a fact I'm not going to stop using a cell phone or email program.. but I definitely don't need this app infiltrating my life.

Best of luck to those who use it
[Android Apps and Games] krzych:
That IS an idea, but I fear that no "top developer" will have interest in digging up android platform to create security like PDroid or LBE - this may end up like having NO CHOICE (becase for the corporations it is VERY GOOD that you are exposed) - as simple as that. Imagine corporation doing a flashable android mod for example ;P lol

PDroid + Avast. Not the same effect (no call and sms blocking) but better privacy (more private data protection options).

That's dumbest thing I could ever seen... A buggy v.2 app is moved to the v.3 without debugging/correcting with the new features - it is obvious that developer wants to pack it up with features and then sell rather than creating STABLE SECURITY APP.

And that's the main reason I still PROTECT my anonymity - I was never so stupid to join FaceBook, Google+, any community portal where I could paste my ID data or even mail (always fake or "spam gathering one"). Noone recognizes me no other way by just "krzych", noone knows where I live (Warsaw is very unprecise term, and I'm no root Varsovian either), no googling about me or so, I bet even "protected" (not public) google database knows not much more.

And this WILL be this way until my end of life if there will be still the possibility. And as far as I see, most of the people knows Orwell's ideas and are preventing to get further like RFID refusal and so on. I bet the goverments WILL at last go on with this ****, but still - there is always a way to being chipped and either at least half anonymous - most of the informations now are in the banks - and let it be this way, banks are on the top of the all anyways (look at the crisis causes, you will understand).

By the way - it's ONLY phone data. I don't use my phone for banking for example - even if it will leak, there's no harm - I'm just protecting it IN CASE.

Silly is your way of thinking. Everything STARTS with some point. This is the pioint, if you won't protect your country border, there will ALWAYS be a neighbour which will take over your country at some point. ALWAYS. It's human nature. Look how we took over the animals, the indians, whole ecologist crap is REAL, but way TOO LATE (and that's why it's so stupid).

And I wish YOU luck, because it's much better if your info leaks to person who does not know what to do with it LEGALLY like corpos with bunch of lawyers than to those corpos. There will be a day when you will admit it, when your leaked data will be LEGALLY used AGAINST you, and you won't have a chance to do ANYTHING LEGAL about it (you can always go Bin Laden way :P).

But back to the point - I'm giving LBE last chance (just because I have no choice in the moment - PDroid won't go on my ROM right now, later I will switch or turn on BOTH). The main reason if LBE being BAD is the performance and unstability, but on fresh ROM it WILL be stable some time I suppose, so I'll check _when_ it goes bad. Maybe this will hellp any way to improve it, but as far as I see developer is not interested in correcting his obvious mistakes, it can be pointless. We will see.
[Android Apps and Games] krzych:
Can you provide the link? Can't find it...
[Android Apps and Games] jaibar:
a) Which apps you've found out that were omitted by LBE?

b) Internet permissions tab is sorted by data activity transfer. I don't like the inability to sort by name, or at least separate Wifi/3G, but one can at least have the top data munchers on top of the list. As it is in the internet tab (which includes data traffic etc)- it is reasonable to sort by data traffic...

c) Maybe- never noticed, but it is a user's responsibility to make sure and check what's going on.

d) Never crashed for me. Are you using any memory managers/auto killers/startup disablers and the such?

e) It is nice to get reply from dev, and in LBE's case I think if you write in chinese you'll have better chances to get a reply.. :D

Now seriously, I have read here and there doubts about LBE, and the lack of dev's response can raise suspicions... On the other hand, it seems to work, and, of course, it can cause harm just as any app with root access privileges.

I use LBE together with droidwall, and haven't noticed any issues with either of them.

IMHO your concerns/suspicions are not enough to raise such a general warning/claim that LBE is no good for us, nor why LBE devs have to cooperate with you in order to be OK :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] :
Here it is
[Android Apps and Games] E:V:A:
This is definitely some kind of MalWare!! (We just haven't figured out all it does yet.)

But it is disguised as a security app, which of course would be perfect, since it means it removes competing malware, making the user think that it actually is doing something good!

Not to mention the 17 EUR/day profit it makes on Ads from their website!

Until the "LBE team" responds, and the source is released, I can only strongly recommend:

DO NOT INSTALL!!

Also see my post in a different LBE thread here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21092460&postcount=123
[Android Apps and Games] finneginsfast:
Well I've uninstalled this as of now as those who are posting warnings have effectively made me nervous. I've been watching this thread closely and been hoping to hear some effective arguments that those people who are posting that this is malware etc. are just being overly paranoid and conspiracy theorists.

I think that as a developer no matter what your language is given the popularity and respect this site garners there would be some sort of response to at least refute the attacks of such allegations. They started the post and must be aware of the contents yet there is no denial of such accusations...why wouldn't one defend their product?

Just makes me wonder and wish for a little more constructive debate from those who may know the answer.
[Android Apps and Games] BlackPit666:
because they never postet anything in these threads....
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
You mean besides this thread promoting their app..

Sent from my T989 hunting for Siri Connor
[Android Apps and Games] lenny_kano:
This app is great if you know how to use it. Thats why MIUI 4.0 uses LBE Security as a base for the permissions management.
[Android Apps and Games] krzych:
I wouldn't say it so strongly. That's why only warned describing issues. But still, noone never knows... It is highly unknown whenther it is good to have it or really bad.

I;m still risking my head using it second time after giving a second chance, and now I'm observing stablity mainly as I'm on new ROM and I need to observe it.

LBE is a resource hog, that is for SURE. It runs my CPU really too much and constantly.

Another sure thing is that it DOES NOT protect while booting until it will be started which means, my weather is updating freely while blocked, my google framework leaks info while blocked, my htc spyware would already sent everything it need of wasn't blocked other way and so on. LBE helps, but does not protect always.

Then tell us, because we REALLY have issues, how to use it? Maybe LBE should write a really really long guide, because if not, only thing they suggest is installation.

First thing you could tell me is how to make it not eating 5% of my CPU power CONSTANTLY.

Next one, how to make it not force closing google services framewor while blocked.

Another, how to make it stable while having over 200 applications BLOCKED (I guarantee you occasional force closes, so being vulnerable till LBE restarts)
[Android Apps and Games] lenny_kano:
No I'm not part of LBE team, I develop for MIUI_Au. It works fine, I used it to replace the inbuilt Superuser mod on 2.3.7 version and it worked fine. Had to modify some of the source code myself, and fully translate it to proper english, plus remove the splash screen and theme it to better fit the miui colour scheme. I have no cpu or ram issues whatsoever. Please restrain from having a go because of my low post count, I know more then you'd think. Just don't visit xda often.
[Android Apps and Games] jimi27:
hello all

( sorry for bad english, im french, then try to translate my solution )

i had same problem for service startup failed.

- I use CM-7.1 RCI Cooper-Grif_07.

- I use Zeam Launcher as default launcher.

I found a solution :

In LBE settings i disabled "Start automaticelly at phone boot".

I use Tasker, and make an event : system / when phone start

1) task / wait 15 seconds ( make try , and modify to lower as possible )

2) app / launch an app / LBE

3) task / wait 1 second

4) app / launch an app / Zeam Launcher

and that work , LBE is running full screen and service start, and launching Zeam hide it just after ...

The problem is that LBE start too earlier, then develloper have just to add an option for delayed start ( customisable in seconds )

Maybe that can work with other app than Tasker who can launch an app delayed at start ...
[Android Apps and Games] PirateNL:
Wow, the last couple of posts worry me. I've been using this app for 2-3 months now. Don't have problems with it. Should I remove it?
[Android Apps and Games] clor01:
I've been using it for 3+ months. Never had issues with it. Like mentioned couple posts before..... as if the developer would know how to "LEGALLY" use our info. Rofl. Keep it if you like. Uninstall if you think its some type malware. Simple. :D Like you sir, Im keeping an eye on this thread as well.
[Android Apps and Games] krzych:
Sorry for the post scriptum then (corrected the post), but you were one saying nothing how to do it but that it is possible. Ok, lets be constructive - I'm a dev too, but not for android nor java. I cannot fix LBE without seeing code, and this is not open source. If you can, why cant you help us all in this thread instead of fixing only MIUI's one?

As we all know, everyone of us in this thread would be happy with bug-free LBE, only REAL issues with this application are resource and CPU problems. The rest is just info leakage (but still, less probable than without LBE at all) and "closed source suspicions" can be ignored for now...

1. LBE starts too _late_ (much of the info leaks before)

2. Even if I would agree to start it late, what your solution solves? For me, none of the issues I posted so far...
[Android Apps and Games] jimi27:
my solution solve the problem "service startup failed" at boot.

i think that it is better to start a bit late, than start earlier with service fail obviously.
[Android Apps and Games] krzych:
Ow, I didn't got ir because never had this issue. Well, that's a way too.
[Android Apps and Games] HPDoubleDutch:
Unfortunately I noticed a big increase in battery drainage with Android 4.

Also, autoboot did not work on A.4. Removed the app, battery stays alive much, no

MUCH

, longer.

Excellent app though, above is the only issue.

Edit: Applicable phone is HTC Sensation.
[Android Apps and Games] krzych:
LOL, "excellent" app while being useless, nice ;). If the app causes CPU drainage, battery, or even crashes, believe me - it's not excellent :) - only idea is, but not the app, and that's ONLY reason I do not use it. Because I would if it were excellent like their idea.
[Android Apps and Games] :
I just uninstalled LBE version 2.0 after realising how easily the settings are messed up, permissions are revoked or applied to the wrong applications. I may know of one cause to that. The titanium backup tries to pause the service to do its job and that causes the settings to be messed up. In my opinion it is LBE's fault but in general Titanium Backup is not fault free to make things easier for itself and not provide enough warnings about various things.

I did pass on a message to the OP of version 3.0 thread suggesting the developers should sort out version 2.0 bugs before pushing version 3.0 out. In my honest opinion, the LBE team need to do better with their planning if they want me to pay or install their apps on my phone that needs to be fully functional and secure. Reliability, a software factor, is measurable.

All above aside, I look forward to version 3.0 that comes with many new features.
[Android Apps and Games] HPDoubleDutch:
I understand your reaction... Actually that's what I ment. The idea is perfect/excellent, it works without any errors and is very easy to customize. This drainage disadventage caused me to uninstall though.
[Android Apps and Games] krzych:
Good to hear that! :D
[Android Apps and Games] HPDoubleDutch:
You're very welcome ;-)
[Android Apps and Games] elvis56:
I must say i'm a bit surprised by the negative comments about LBE PG and i feel for the most part the negative comments are exaggerated. Does anyone have any actual PROOF LBE does anything malicious?

I have been using LBE for quite some time now and can't remember it ever crashed nor did it mess up settings nor does it drain my battery. However it does keep track of my data usage, it does prevent apps accessing the internet and it does show me a log of what apps want to do and if the action is allowed or denied.
[Android Apps and Games] Izzysoft:
@elvis56: Same for me. Still running the very first version of LBE which does very fine here. Even helped me identify Apps which where doing things I didn't want them to, so I could sort them out. Thus I know it intercepts things correctly -- so the other side of the medal is I am able to tell apps which do not abuse their permissions (e.g. GO launcher requests COST_CALL, but never ever dialed out itself). Or found curious things like apps first trying to access my contacts (refused via LBE), and only after that they ask me whether I want them to (pop-up). So I will continue using it.
[Android Apps and Games] HPDoubleDutch:
I don't know how you want me to PROOF that LBE is draining my battery...

I can state the following:

WITH LBE:

Battery will be at 90% when I arrive at work in the morning

Battery will be at 70% at noon

Battery will be at 40-45% when I come home from work

WITHOUT LBE:

Battery will be at 100% when I arrive at work in the morning

Battery will be at 95% at noon

Battery will be at 70% when come home from work.

Both with compareable usage of the phone of course. And they are approximate values, just to give an indication in drainage difference.

I will not argue about the value of the program: if the drainage would be ok (or at least within satisfying values), I'd give the app AAA status.