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[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
First you try to tell us rooting is illegal, and now this crap. Dude, just stop posting. You are doing nothing but spreading blatantly false info.

HTC could EASILY give us the key. They don't have to change a darn thing on the device, just give us the key. Then we can root and flash away.
[HTC EVO 3D] ajs421:
bout 99% sure this dude works for Samsung. haters gon' hate.
[HTC EVO 3D] djdisturbed:
maybe one of the original devs for it will show sympathy and "leak" the key to one of the main devs here........ I can be hopeful!
[HTC EVO 3D] 063_XOBX:
'Bout 99% sure you're an idiot and he's right.

Odds are IF HTC decides that XDA boycotting their phones would hurt their bottom line they would take an approach similar to Sony with the Xperia phones and offer up a downloadable over the wire bootloader unlock.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
There should seriously be a law against this crap. If you buy the phone, you own it. You should be able to do whatever you want with it.

Imagine if you bought a car and the manufacturer refused to let you open the hood. And couldn't just get a different kind of car because the roads in your area were all owned by 1 company, that only allowed this type of car.
[HTC EVO 3D] ajs421:
Thanks, you just proved mine and the previous poster's points.
[HTC EVO 3D] aka.karasawa:
I'm holding you to that...
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
Voice your opinions!

http://www.facebook.com/HTC?sk=app_127202297355153
[HTC EVO 3D] djdisturbed:
lol looks like someone else saw the link i posted up a few mins ago! but why am I the only one to post up so far?
[HTC EVO 3D] curiousGeorge:
Be smart, people, not fools. Think about what this response really means and its intentions. HTC took a calculated risk in locking down these phones. This kind of response is meant to do only one thing:

They are trying to dissolve our anger and placate us -- essentially,

to prevent us from taking action

by lulling us into a false sense of security. It happens all the time, I've seen it more than dozens of times from all sorts of companies. Including Apple, who HTC is desperately trying to mimic, not realizing its core customer base (not to mention its most loyal and passionate) love it precisely because it isn't sneaky, totalitarian Apple.

Sign here and complain on the facebook page, tweet it. The petition literally takes a second and promises real action: http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
[HTC EVO 3D] ydoucare:
Made it to Engadget

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/25/evo-3d-shipping-with-locked-down-bootloader-but-htc-may-reconsi/
[HTC EVO 3D] ticklemepinks:
finally... HTC Better make good or they are gonna lose soooooo many of us
[HTC EVO 3D] a5ehren:
Oh noes, they might lose like 1000 people on XDA. How will they ever survive?:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
They've had over 100,000 people add their facebook page in the last six hours, there are people who don't even know what a bootloader is saying they don't want htc phones now lol

Why would they when there is a constant stream of people saying they are canceling pre orders?
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
lol, def stealing that one from you

edit: nm, cache :D
[HTC EVO 3D] corybucher:
I just got the nexus s yesterday and am very satisfied with it. Plus they are already working on porting honeycomb for this phone. Plus like everyone has said pure Google vs sprint bloat ware and sense.
[HTC EVO 3D] nrap:
I am very upset and sad. This wretched news completely ruined my morning coffee. =(
[HTC EVO 3D] rugedraw:
This.....I saw a bunch of "noobs" on there asking "what does a locked bootloader mean?" and I even provided info to a few of them.
[HTC EVO 3D] sidepart:
Hehe who cares if they know what a locked bootloader is? As long as we can incite the masses to be angry that they're losing some kind of right they used to have, they'll riot about a locked whatever. People like a good riot.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS BUT I'M ANGRY AND NOT BUYING IT ANYMORE! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Blitzpwnage:
Sounds like what happened in Madison, Wi. With the union "rights" protests lol
[HTC EVO 3D] mrjaydee82:
I'm lost and can't figure what to do from here. Debating if I should get this phone or not. I have it preordered at best buy, and I bought a 250 dollar best buy gift card so I can definitely get the phone when it comes in. I'm so bummed. I was really looking forward to this phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
For the time being join the protest and incite others to do the same. Hit their Youtube, Facebook, twitter, google bomb, send emails, sign the groubal petition, post in forums far and wide, make another submission to slashdot.org (once it hits the front page their our support will be multiplied tenfold...or more), try to get more traditional media to cover this.

Keep it short and simple "HTC is encrypting our phones so we can't install whatever software we want on the devices we paid for", no need to get into technical details and turn everyone off. The thought of not being able to install what you want on something you own would infuriate anyone, but "not being able to install a custom recovery module because the bootloader is cryptographically signed" is not something most people can identify with or care about easily.

This onslaught has to continue. One of two things will happen for certain:

1.) They give us the key

2.) an ENG RUU sans crypto-signature mysteriously "leaks"

I'm betting on option #2. If they give us the key they would have to give every one the key to every other phone out there. There is a good chance they did this to appease media companies to get them onboard with movie and music play/purchase/partnerships by provided a protected secure device...I can't blame them for wanting that. It just sucks that they have to go about it this way....if it "accidentally" leaks, hey, what can they do about that? But if they give the key out they piss off all of those partners and destroy all of those deals.

All speculation....and there is always the horrible option #3:

3.) Nothing changes

...which is still likely...
[HTC EVO 3D] toxicfumes22:
You must be horrible with money if you had to buy the $250 gift card too. :D

Anyways, just wait for HTC's response.

Also people on this forum are not geeks or nerds. We just aren't technologically impaired.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
...do you know what "geek" means around here? It's not a sexy label...and nerd is generally considered an insulting form of geek...but...if you have rooted your smart phone and installed an underground ROM you are most certainly a geek. Perhaps not an uber-geek, but, you are a geek.

I've played guitar in a punk band for 10 years, I drink too much, I get into fights, I'm great with the ladies, I'm extremely social, I go to the gym every day....and I'm a goddamned geek through and through. Nothing wrong with that, and nothing conflicting in any of that. No need to embrace it, but, lets me honest...if you know what a cryptographically signed bootloader is, a recovery module, what a ".apk

file is or have modified your framework at all.....you are definitely a geek.
[HTC EVO 3D] rugedraw:
We are on the same page here, brother. I think it's great that the majority of the users that don't root or flash are seeing this and jumping on the bandwagon with us. As long as we keep flooding their page(s) with this, and non-rooters see this and get exposure to the fact that these phones can be even better, the better it is for our cause.
[HTC EVO 3D] lbhocky19:
my whole family bought incredibles because i told them to go with htc. so i had my mom go post on their wall yesterday and i'm pretty sure she was the first person to say "you lock, we walk" and it seems it caught on haha
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
For the people that don't know what root is, after reading all the complaints about not be able to do it, I am sure they are goin to want to root there phone now and see why all the fuss. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] toxicfumes22:
I've been telling them to go to XDA-Developers and go the the wiki section to learn more. I dont check the wiki myself so I hope its there but I know when I first started on phones it was very helpful.
[HTC EVO 3D] NewZJ:
Don't forget, it was the Evo 4g that made HTC popular ( there market share almost tripled IIRC) and gave Sprint the biggest subscriber boost in its history, i believe that success to be with the development of the Evo, us geeks showed our friends and family how awesome and unique we can make our phones.

I know there are more than 20 people out there with HTC devices purely because of my actions and suggestions, many of you have people that are HTC because of you, and there are others that are HTC because of them. Word of mouth is the greatest advertisement, and downfall
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
I worked a Sprint independant retailer for years up through last year, and I influenced multiple hundreds, probably tousands, of peoples decisions on buying a HTC device, starting with the Apache. One of the most powerful tools in selling a device to a customer is actually owning it and being very proud of it. I had no need to explain all of the great customization that are possible to most customers, but when they saw me playing with it, they would know that it was very likely the device they wanted.

HTC would be foolish to not understand that most of the smartphone sales force is in the business because they enjoy phones and the vast majority customize their devices. Not often does "unlocking," "rooting," etc. come into the sales pitch, but the fact that I am biased towards a certain device is 100% relevant to which phone I will push. I am here to tell you- if a novice consumer is in the market for a smartphone and I am pushing them toward X device, they will buy that one. I guarantee that had the EVO been locked you could knock off 20% of sales (if anything, that is a gross underestimate) due to the number of associates that would have preferred to carry around a different device.

HTC, if you decide to use encryption to lock your bootloader, you better hope that every other manufacturer does the same.

To that point, if it weren't for the fun- the hobby- of having full control over my smartphone, I would have my i5 thinkpad tethered to my Sanyo M1 which I stuck away many years ago just in case.
[HTC EVO 3D] lmbebo:
I'm debating whether to get an Evo 4G if htc doesn't fix situation.

I'm switching from an iPhone. Played with a Cliq XT for 2-3 months. The way moto just dropped support on that phone after 6? Months just speaks to how important this dev community is in the android world. Because of the cliqxt community I had froyo then CM7 running on the phone. They gave that device life. No dev, the phone would have been left at 1.6?

I don't look to htc to be able to provide quick support. I look at everyone here who love to toy with and explore these devices to bring out the best in HTCs hardware.
[HTC EVO 3D] phoenx06:
Post this on facebook and email it to them. Great post, and they probably wont see it on here.
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
I don't facebook, please copy and paste, leaving out the last paragraph for integrity, phoenx06. It is the real truth, and should be heard no matter how it gets there. :)

edit: I will email it.
[HTC EVO 3D] shabgard:
Nexus, and G1 made HTC popular.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Right... Google chose HTC to make those phones because HTC was so unpopular. /sarcasm
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
^^^^^ what he said.

BTW thanks WatermelonSlim for the email list. I sent a pretty forcefully worded, yet respectful email to all those names. Here's the email:

Feel free to resend that as many times as you all want, of course changing links and names etc. I really hope grassroots public outcry works, we shall see.

Here's the post with all of HTC's bigshots' email addresses - post

Also, like this group on facebook - FB link

Also, go sign this petition on groubal - Groubal petition

Also, tell HTC on their FB page how you feel - HTC Facebook

Also, go to this blog and join in - wakeuphtcblogspot

Also, go to HTC's youtube page and speak up HTC YouTube

Also, go to HTC's community and continue the madness EVO3D

Also, cross your fingers and pray to the phone gods that the actually listen...
[HTC EVO 3D] ozzie1p:
If you go to HTC website they say this in the introduction in the "about HTC" section: http://www.htc.com/us/about

"HTC Corp, (TAIEX: 2498) produces powerful handsets that continually push the boundaries of innovation to provide true mobile freedom."

Ironic...eh?

Isn't HTC one of the founding members of that open handset alliance thing?

Edit: Yup.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Handset_Alliance

Edit2: From the open source alliance front page (along with a link to the source code, so we can "contribute").

"A commitment to openness, a shared vision for the future, and concrete plans to make the vision a reality.

Welcome to the Open Handset Alliance™, a group of 80 technology and mobile companies who have come together to accelerate innovation in mobile and offer consumers a richer, less expensive, and better mobile experience. Together we have developed Android™, the first complete, open, and free mobile platform."
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Yes they are, WTF. http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
[HTC EVO 3D] ozzie1p:
More from that OHA website:

http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_overview.html

"Innovating in the open

Each member of the Open Handset Alliance is strongly committed to greater openness in the mobile ecosystem. Increased openness will enable everyone in our industry to innovate more rapidly and respond better to consumers' demands. Our first joint project as a new Alliance is Android™. Android was built from the ground up with the explicit goal to be the first open, complete, and free platform created specifically for mobile devices."

They turn their card back in or what?
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Wow, Sprint and HTC are both members. What a crock.
[HTC EVO 3D] Kumetto:
FYI.. 3 email addresses from HTC were returned I emailed all of the "big shots" from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=14111369#post14111369

ht_cho@htc.com

Lotus_chan@htc.com

mark_baker@htc.com
[HTC EVO 3D] awenthol:
Add me to the locked boot = different company, list. And, I agree that HTC is giving everyone a false hope....
[HTC EVO 3D] Shrubby:
Can that be considered fraud or bait and switch tactics by consumer product distributors?

Do we have FTC recourse?

Anyone with knowledge on this?
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
Just if XDA decide to boycott the HTC. it will diffidently hurt the HTC and their market share especially in the US Canada and Europe. A lot of people saw in HTC an iPhone alternative.

I personally rooted for themes Mods and adding language modules into my Evo. This is why I invested in an expensive HTC Evo a year ago.
[HTC EVO 3D] curiousGeorge:
Exactly. And now more than ever it is time to make yourselves heard. Quickly and powerfully, we should unite and vote (on the petition and/or other means of contact in my sig) so they know how we stand before they finish making their "reviewed decision."

Get as many people as you can to vote. The same kind of petition made incredible with Motorola against all odds, a company notorious for its terrible bootloader lockdown. Best yet, it takes a few seconds and can help bring about openness and shape the future of HTC (and perhaps the smartphone industry). Best yet, it takes only a few seconds to vote, and a few minutes to tell everyone you know.

This kind of social media-driven petitioning and gathering not only weakened Motorola's draconian ways, but even helped win multiple uprisings in random countries overseas recently. It's powerful and it works, and every vote is worth more than you know.
[HTC EVO 3D] JBone19:
BIG NEWS!

Quote from Facebook

""There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC"
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
They had to. What started out as a few cranks about the Evo3D turned into an infinite vigil for every phone they've ever made. It never ever ever would have stopped.
[HTC EVO 3D] ydoucare:
Yep, but they didn't say what they're going to do with the Evo 3D since it will probably ship with a locked bootloader.
[HTC EVO 3D] Andy0682:
HTC just announced no more locked bootladers!
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
I love. HTC
[HTC EVO 3D] tgkdubb:
just saw this posted on their FB. NICE!
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
WE WON!!! Hahaha, minority vote? :)
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
it's either that or do you want to wait another week or two for the god damned phone?

They can unlock it with an OTA, they know the key....or maybe it will be an elective RUU.

I'm actually rather curious how this will work out. Cuz if they renege it takes little effort to fire up the rage machine again.
[HTC EVO 3D] mahalocat:
where are all those People now...

htc is a big Corporation they will never listen.....

LOL

#winning!
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
And this is a prime example of why HTC owns all. Count me in, and I am sorry I ever said anything bad you HTC.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
LOL! Excellent post! All those douche bags who kept calling us crying *****es and telling us to shut up because it wouldn't help anything, HTC just pwned all of them!
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
I would love to see what would happen if people tried this against Apple! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Two words:

Death Squads
[HTC EVO 3D] desairs:
More Likely Humancentipad
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
The problem is that iPhone owners like the phone as is.

We liked HTC before the locked bootloaders.....
[HTC EVO 3D] xoreactionzox:
the way it is ?

umm i dont know one single person that has a iphone as is lmao you ask around and see who has a jailbroken iphone and then come and say that again
[HTC EVO 3D] Geeble:
Sweet their devices wont have anymore locked bootloaders!
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
So maybe that troll fixxer can take his hating ass to the nexus s forum now and never return......nothing more for him to say now.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
What?!

They bought the phone as is!

We were not going to buy the 3D as is. Do. You. Understand. The. Words. Coming. Out. Of. My. Text!!!!???
[HTC EVO 3D] xPSYCHOTRONx:
WOW that is so awesome that this all worked, taking the fight to HTC and thank you HTC for a major step forward. Glad i didn't cancel my pre-order.

Bring on the EVO 3D!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] lmbebo:
Makes my decision easier! Don't mind paying more for the evo3d now compared to nexus s.
[HTC EVO 3D] cranbiz:
Ok, I'll take mine in about a week. Thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] Av8ter:
Thanks dude. Appreciate it. You can send cash if that would be easier !!!...LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] awakener:
Ha!
[HTC EVO 3D] demo27vol1:
So are your hopes up yet? :p
[HTC EVO 3D] chewbz:
Hope the evo comes out within 30 days, I just got my nexus s 4g :( hmmmm.... Ah oh well, I still like mah phone, just would be pretty envious for awhile.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rydah:
Crazy movie.
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
He was referring to south park
[HTC EVO 3D] Jbcarrera:
So when will I be receiving my free EVO 3D?
[HTC EVO 3D] wattnxt:
What about providing unlocks for those already out and locked?

Now THAT would be a statement from HTC about the power of open source.

Sent from my Droid1, 1.2Ghz Stable, Peter Alfonso v2 LV kernel, Gingerbread 2.3.3, Zepplinrox Supercharged phone using Xda Premium.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rydah:
Well, look up the movie. Good but crazy.
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
You guys didn't read the fine print under my post. I said I will provide free EVO 3D's for everyone on here if HTC overturned the decision and released it tomorrow! It's really small but the print is there. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] djdisturbed:
Do we need to start a crusade against you now? :D
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
You can't. I don't have a facebook. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
bet you got myspace tho lol
[HTC EVO 3D] A.Priori:
man I'm itching for another post every minute for 12 hours. I kinda believe in online movements now; i hate to admit it though :x
[HTC EVO 3D] awenthol:
Nice to see they are listening to their customers. Major, major kudos. No doubt an EVO 3D is in my very near future...
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
Fine Print is against the XDA Law!! I want me free EVO 3D now!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Jbcarrera:
its ok we can start a thread on here! LOL:D
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
When I read the news I think I had a little online movement myself. :o
[General Questions and Answers] crazydad:
love the rom but how do i get all my contacts and phone numbers ??? i dont and for some reason cant setup the htc sense and now i dont have any phone numbers or contact on the phone.???

o and i had radio 1.39.00.o4r and it didnt pick up any signal and didnt recognize my service is there another radio i should be useing ??? Yes im new to all this lol
[LG Optimus 2x] keijers:
I've freezed google maps, so maps and lattitude are invisible in the menu. But the blue arrow called 'navigation' is still there and I can't find a way to freeze it because it's not in the list of titanium backup or system/apps (or i can't find it)

Who knows how to freeze it?
[LG Optimus 2x] keijers:
I mean this icon:

Anybody?
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
You can't, it's a part of Google Maps, not a separate app. I've no idea why freezing Maps would leave it behind, but I guess that's just the way it is.
[LG Optimus 2x] Moonie17:
Hmm really not sure mate had a look online and couldnt find anything! someone else has already asked in this forum so could be work asking if they found a solution.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1042711
[Nook Color General] emerald181:
I recently flashed the cm7 nightly 85 for nook with the .32 OC and everything is running great, except for one thing. When I try to play videos, the volume is extremely low, but all my music and other files work fine. I was running nightly 70 before and the video volume was perfect... Can anyone help me out? I haven't found this on the forums.

Can anyone even suggest anything lol?
[Nook Color General] ExploreMN:
I just flashed to 85 as well. I did the cache wipe prior to the flash and my videos run at the same volume before. Did you wipe the cache? (Not sure if that has anything to do with it...but since mine is working and yours isn't...who knows)
[Nook Color General] emerald181:
yeah I flashed both the cache and the dalvik cache before the flash... I don't understand, music is loud but my videos aren't. I've been spending hours trying to find a fix to no avail
[Nook Color General] ExploreMN:
If it helps, I wasn't having problems with any videos I was "soft-decoding" with Mobo, but now videos I encoded specifically for the NC that never had a problem before are choking, screwing up the display and making the device reboot.

I'm a sad panda now. :(
[Nook Color General] ExploreMN:
Okay, I noticed nightly 86 was released since I flashed 85 a few hours ago! :) This one seems to fix the video problems I mentioned above. Try upgrading to 86. The volume seems even louder too.
[Nook Color General] emerald181:
Ok, so I flashed nightly 86, still no luck though, video volume for me is incredibly low. I Wiped the cache and dalvik cache, flashed 86 and gapps, then flashed the newest overclock kernel. I think i heard somewhere though that the overclock is included in 86, is that true? I mean, I don't think it would make a difference anyway as it is still the same kernel...

[EDIT]

I tried flashing without the overclock and the volume is still low unfortunately, so its not the kernel
[Nook Color General] angomy:
Have you tried a different video player or wiping data for the app and seeing if that made a difference?
[Nook Color General] emerald181:
Thanks for the suggestions but nah, I tried playing on other players b4 but it didn't make a difference. I just tried clearing the data but that didn't help either. This thing is a real pain lol