yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nook Color General] NullP:
I believe Google gets a cut (30%) of every Marketplace sale. Adds up to a hefty sum, if so. More users on Marketplace = more $$$ for goog. They should want everyone advancing the platform.
[Nook Color General] joenathane:
Very true, but I guess they leverage that with the fact that holding these premium/pretty necessary apps behind a license fee/certification process gives them some control over the direction Android. Which turns out is very important and good for consumers as the new 18 month upgrade policy proves.
[Nook Color General] DigitalMD:
I stand corrected, Goggle does not charge a license fee per device for Android, but device makers do pay for various baked-in patent fees including ~$5 per Android device to Microsoft.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Well that isn't totally true either. Only some spineless makers have agreed to that *cough?* HTC *cough*. B&N (among others) is vigorously going AGAINST that invalid fee.
[Nook Color General] fzr-r4:
sorry to get so off topic, but samsung looks to be next in the spineless line. likely paying more than htc no less!
[Nook Color General] newellj79:
The title of this thread should b changed.
[Nook Color General] EGOvoruhk:
Source for them being vigorously against it?

From what I understand, Microsoft is only charging companies that also make Windows based phones/tablets
[Nook Color General] chisleu:
werd... patents on web browsers that load the background image before/as it renders content... ridiculous...

Noise.

Actually no I didn't. I make it sound like there is no reason that they would BS us. Why would they instigate a public relations problem that they don't have to? Why would they lie repeatedly saying it would continue to be open (after spending years benefiting from the relationship) when it doesn't save them a dime.

The "mod community" is far from the only people who want the source.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Not sure where you got that idea....

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...roid-with-its-patent-infringement-claims/9305

http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Patent-trolling-with-Microsoft/1310007115
[Nook Color General] etique57:
A french Android news website reported this morning that the sources of AOSP 3.2 have been published.

Does anyone confirm? I can't find it anywhere in the english news.
[Nook Color General] wakeboarder8156:
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-32-gpl-code-pushed-aosp

Are you referring to this ^ ?
[Nook Color General] Akagami:
It appears that portions of 3.2 were released but not in its entirety. I don't know if those portions are helpful in these development.

http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/6410b44798c19d61?pli=1

It might be that we will have to wait till Ice Cream Sandwich before we get a full release

http://mobiputing.com/2011/05/googl...the-divide-between-tablets-phones-in-q4-2011/
[Nook Color General] DigitalMD:
Quote from Google-Groups:

"As usual, and just like we had done before for Android 3.0 and 3.1,

the source code for the GPL and LGPL components of Android 3.2 is

available in the Android Open-Source Project, under the tag

android-3.2_r1 "

So looks like no help and stil the same situation as before for 3.0 3.1, and now 3.2
[Nook Color General] Akagami:
I wonder if a system dump from a 3.2 device would be helpful? It seems I read somewhere that 3.2 is optimized for 7in tablets.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Not really. I don't mean to sound too frustrated, but it is almost irrelevant that 3.2 adds 7" support, since that has not been a problem (the big thing that i understand that it might fix, is the system being forced to have the tiny 120DPI).

A system dump from a non Omap 3 device will do us almost no good at all; certainly not much better (and in some cases worse) than the SDK builds we can already get. The compiled OS'es are compiled for specific hardware; if it is different than ours (Tegra 2...), we cannot use it.
[Nook Color General] deeper-blue:
Actually I would like to have a system dump of the xoom 3.2 - so if someone can hand me one that would be great, otherwise I'll try to manually patch the 3.1 dump I have to 3.2 with the official update file.

Also what I actually did for 3.0 and 3.1 is mixed up the xoom dump, the sdk image and hardware drivers from the original nook images and cyanogen mod 7 into one tasty blend. The only thing really hard to get running with using the xoom dumps is hardware video decoding since that is really deeply compiled into the android binaries and tries to use the tegra hardware, patching that into using the omap hardware and drivers is not an easy task. (not that any of the other things are easy to do but this is a few steps more intense).
[Nook Color General] wakeboarder8156:
I have faith!
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Hot damn.. i didn't realize there was that much mixing involved. Just getting the oven to 500* and baking for 3 hours was bad enough for me. ;)

You truly are the master; if you think you can get something going, rock on. :D
[Nook Color General] Thranx:
Just want to add to the voices of excitement for this. deeper_blue & madcat, you guy's work on HC kernels is much appreciated. :)
[Nook Color General] botossi:
Pls, someone send the Xoom 3.2 Dump asap !!!!

Seriously, great news and good luck DP! thanks again for giving US some hope ! ;)
[Nook Color General] maxwintrobe:
maybe db found files on xoom forum: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1167428&page=2
[Nook Color General] riceboyler:
Hey, deeperblue, any chance you could put that 3.1 ROM that you built up somewhere so we could play with it too?

Thanks so much for all you (and Divine_madcat) have done for getting HC on this device. Kind of amazing really!
[Nook Color General] hungryTux:
Hi DeeperBlue, does it help that the 3.2 GPL source code is available in AOSP now? I hear its only the kernel code. Really looking forward to your work with this!
[Nook Color General] |Jason8|:
Have you guys taken a look at the intermediary driver that Chainfire created? I'm sure you have, and I'm sure I'm helping bark up the wrong tree... but here's the thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1087427
[Nook Color General] descriminator:
YAY?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1167179

nookie nookie nookie nookie nookie....
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Nothing more than bits and pieces.. same as what was released for 3.0 and 3.1. Nothing to see here..
[Nook Color General] syraz:
this was just posted http://android-developers.blogspot.com/search/label/SDK updates
[Nook Color General] variance:
where do I send the 3.2 dump to?
[Nook Color General] Ronin3178:
Maybe PM deeperblue with a DB link or something
[Nook Color General] kuroguy:
The full 3.2 deodexed system is in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1167428
[Nook Color General] Akagami:
Is it official that he is indeed working on 3.2?
[Nook Color General] AidenM:
You can never be sure.
[Nook Color General] surfboy:
This looks interesting: engadget.com/2011/07/22/lenovos-7-inch-ideapad-caught-by-mr-blurrycam/

"this is the company's 7-inch IdeaPad, which might be (internally) dubbed the A1-07. It's said to be powered by a TI OMAP3621 processor (which also drives the Nook Color), features a 7-inch 1024 x 600 touchscreen, a Broadcom GPS unit, 3G wireless with a SIM slot, and room for a microSD card as well. A 3,700mAh battery supposedly keeps things juiced, both front- and rear-facing cameras are on offer, and it's all wrapped in a glossy plastic styling that makes it look a little like a TouchPad with some bare metal highlights. It also features three buttons up front that we're hoping don't mean it's been relegated to Android 2.x."

7 inch Lenovo Thinkpad tablet with the same 3 button, dual camera setup as the 10inch Tegra tablets out there, and in addition it uses the OMAP3621 CPU like the Nook. I doubt that a major player like Lenovo would bring out a 2.3 tablet device if theyve just released 2 tablets with 3.1 (albeit 10 inch Tegras the pair of them).

Lets hope its out soon!
[Nook Color General] jeremyshaw:
a major player like HTC launched with 2.3 :(

sent from my celly
[Nook Color General] patruns:
I think there is a reason you don't see any Honeycomb devices with a 7" screen. It is not really necessary. I trust that Lenovo knows what they are doing. Also remember there are hardly any apps out there designed for Honeycomb.
[Nook Color General] DigitalMD:
Honeycomb is a lame duck bridge. It's being used as a marketing tool for new tablets. App development is market driven. Since there's not a huge market, the developers are not messing with Honeycomb apps a lot. And most apps that work for Gingerbread are fine on Honeycomb. Apple claims their market research shows that 10.1" is optimum and 7" is not very desired. I think that's a smoke screen and Apple will soon come out with a 7 or 8" IPad. I tried toting a 10 inch android tab and even played with the Ipad, but its too big for daily travel use. I much prefer the Nook's size and weight (small) , much more portable and holdable.
[Nook Color General] chisleu:
meh. 7" is one thing, 10" is another, 12-14 is another.

Until I can write on one just like I can a piece of paper, it's just a toy.
[Nook Color General] michaelg1030:
Not sure I understand your logic. Its a tablet, not a piece of paper. If we wanted something to write on we'd all have saved hundreds of dollars and bought a five star notebook and some BICs.
[Nook Color General] Thracks:
The reason is that 7" devices are not supported until 3.2.
[Nook Color General] michaelg1030:
That's exactly the reason, plus what the other poster said about it being a lame duck bridge.

Google could have just used froyo with some tweaks and had it running perfectly on some larger tablets like how Samsung saw it on their tab, but they wanted to "change" how we view tablets and not just put a phone rom on a larger screen like their competitor does. So they rushed out a beta software and here in lies HC.

HC has some great features but having bought and returned a HC tablet, I find the overall experience of froyo/GB on the nook much more enjoyable. This is why I'm confused why everyone wants to have HC running on the nook. Even if we had the Aosp for HC, I think many would resort back to GB based roms. But I get it, it would be cool to say we got HC running on a $250 e-reader, something Motorola and the others had a tough time doing even with their vast resources.
[Nook Color General] douginoz:
Google have to manage a smooth transition of their development priorities, projects, and staff from one platform to another. Honeycomb likely was necessary due to h/w manufacturers coming out with a larger form factor, which was too big for the existing platform to exploit, and too immature to be seen as an investment priority to compete against Apple. So some development resources would have been channeled to come out with an intermediary, exploratory newer (Honeycomb) platform that exploits the increased real estate space and larger form factor (not a phone, not a portrait device, not a very portable device, etc.).

Honeycomb would have been a stop-gap compromise measure, and based on it's success in supporting the new devices out there and the development architecture progress for a new form factor, Google will have then pushed more resources towards this new platform. Thus, the next version of Android will reflect this increased focus, architectural consistency, and strategic focus.
[Nook Color General] patruns:
Actually, that is not the reason. The reason is the 7" screen size is not so far off that Gingerbread and related apps still look and function fine on it. Moving up to 10" and now some apps start to look.... well.... like the old Silly Putty that you put on a comic to get the impression and then stretched. That's why Google is not giving Honeycomb to manufacturers to place on 7" tablets. Ice Cream Sandwich is supposed to resolve all this so that app developers will not have to worry about the screen size. The OS will take care of it. :)
[Nook Color General] cdaters:
So I was at Wal-Mart last night, and I saw an Acer Iconia 7" tablet running Honeycomb for $260 roughly.

I just checked their website and they don't show it, so I will have to run back there tonight and take a picture of it.
[Nook Color General] BugsBunny891:
pics or it never happened

i think its bs tho
[Nook Color General] joenathane:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/acers-7-inch-iconia-tab-a100-priced-at-300-in-uk-launching-ap/

http://androidcommunity.com/acer-ic...spotted-at-walmart-coming-in-at-349-20110620/
[Nook Color General] DigitalMD:
Nice catch, looks like we will get a flury of micobots in September.
[Nook Color General] cdaters:
I'll have pics posted tomorrow. I just got home from a long day of bringing a web/FTP server back to life and I am going straight to bed :)
[Nook Color General] ivanmmj:
I'm wondering the same thing.
[Nook Color General] chisleu:
My logic is JUST that. You sound like someone saying "I don't understand your logic. It's a phone not a PDA."

I (and many many others) do want something to write on. For class, for note taking, etc. I want to be able to use a capacitive stylus like a real pencil and just write. It's not here yet and that's ok, but it's coming...

I feel 7" tablets are good for something. 10" tablets can be good for other things (laptop replacements in some cases)

I think the next tablet I get will probably be a 7" android 3.x tablet. Then a 12-14" windows 8 tablet.
[Nook Color General] binglejellsx2:
I wholly agree with this sentiment.
[Nook Color General] Yunkmaster:
Cortex A8 Drivers

Hi People,

i heared lenovo is launching a new cheap tablet in the middle of this month.

It's called IdeaPad A1. It contains a Cortex A8 3622, PowerVR SGX530 and is Running wirh android 2.3.

Is it possible to get newer drivers out of this source?

Yunky
[Nook Color General] patruns:
What for? Android 2.3 is Gingerbread.......
[Nook Color General] Yunkmaster:
If there is a newer gpu driver, couldn't we get hardwareacceleration?!

I thought a newer driver could help deeperblue or someone else to fix the uibug.

Sorry my English is bad!

Yunky
[Nook Color General] Tytanius:
I think he means 3.2
[Nook Color General] newellj79:
2.3 is acurate.
[Nook Color General] arrjaytea:
The irony is delicious.

2.3 may be accurate in terms of what the Lenovo A1 will be running, but is hardly relevant to any discussion going on in this thread.
[Nook Color General] surfboy:
Hate to quote myself but I said that back in July http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15892413&postcount=129 that Lenovo were launching the A1. I was hoping it would be 3.2 but it looks like its gonna be 2.3.
[Nook Color General] Yunkmaster:
I never thought Android 3.2. I really thought Android 2.3.

My hope was that Lenovo used newer gpu drivers in their build which we could use to fix the uibug.

I thought a newer driver could fix that.

But if an newer driver won't help i am wrong. Sry guys!

DeeperBlue:

"The emulator and the nook both are doing software UI rendering instead of the new in 3.0 hardware accelerated UI rendering. Sadly the PowerVR SGX530 drivers that are (publicly) available right now are lacking some features to activate the hardware UI rendering on the nook. (like support for EGL_SWAP_BEHAVIOUR = EGL_BUFFER_PRESERVED

and the GL_OES_EGL_image_external extension). I started patching around those issues, which is hard without the access to the Android source, and can confirm that the nook's hardware is more than capable of running 3.0/3.1 hardware accelerated even though the source might need some patches if we don't get updated drivers for the SGX530."

Yunky
[Nook Color General] Modded Darts:
Google has released ics and honeycomb source code but said to use the ics source code.

Sorry I don't have a link.
[Nook Color General] koopakid08:
Really? HOLY FREAK YOUR THE FIRST PERSON TO NOTICE!!!

not

You really think that people don't know by the many threads on ics? Come on. Look around.
[Nook Color General] aom336:
@Modded Darts :

We landed on the moon? No way!
[Nook Color General] luigi90210:
no need to flame buddy

ON TOPIC: well since we have an sdk port of honeycomb im hoping we can see a fully working version of honeycomb on the nook since source was released, this way we can choose between honeycomb and ICS
[Nook Color General] Jainyankee1993:
Chill with the sarcasm bro...and yeah why are you so mad? Lol... But anyway..I don't think the devs will release honeycomb mostly because ics has got most functions of honeycomb, and they'll see it as a waste of time
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
koopakid08, aom336 - Such rudeness is completely uncalled for. Yes, many people know that the source code is out.. but you dont need to be rude about it.. Just correct and move on..
[Nook Color General] luigi90210:
im hoping they will because it is always nice to have some options, plus i read somewhere that ics looks weird when it is set to our screen density and resolution but ether way im just glad we are able to finally have a tablet experience instead of a modified phone experience
[HTC EVO 3D] Andy0682:
http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/05/24/att-and-t-mobile-to-get-their-own-htc-evo-3d/

Just stumbled upon this article...i highly doubt this would actually happen though
[HTC EVO 3D] themuffinman:
The one with the gold trim around the camera is just the european gsm version thats all. Its been confirmed for a while now that there is a european verion. You can see it on htc's official website, its htc branded with no carrier logo on it.

http://www.htc.com/www/product/evo3d/overview.html
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Not in the North American market, that's for certain. But as has already been clarified a GSM version is already known...whether this eventually (like the thunderbolt) becomes available in NA is up for debate--and a reasonable idea. But I'm pretty sure Sprint and HTC have a pretty tidy time-limited exclusivity deal baked up which is why Sprint finally has show-stopper phones instead of just also-rans and peculiarities.

So, I think it could happen in NA...in 6-8 months...like the thunderbolt...but aside from that, nah...
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
I'm not sure if this will happen, but it should. Imagine if HTC made fewer devices but made them available on all carriers, support would be so much better. I think they should have 4 phones per carrier- in the hi end a KB and bar option and the same in the low-mid range...

Tapa tapa tapa
[Xperia Arc Android Development] jatt101:
Basically this thread will have all the latest firmwares ready to be flashed, ill try my best to keep it updated, so far it includes the o2 and hong kong firmware, will post others when they get released, if anyone has them, please let me know

Hong Kong Branded

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J80IGWRK

http://www.multiupload.com/CQ0TB9Q5XB

A big thank you to Rumnyc for providing the files

o2 Branded - no bloatware included, so i suggest flashing this compared to the hong kong version(i found it to be smoother as well)

http://www.multiupload.com/7JF5BD3P9H

Big thanks to superutp for providing the files

Generic UK

http://www.multiupload.com/Y26JCR7DM5

Generic Global

http://www.multiupload.com/ETLCF3ISUO

Thank you to jlmcr87 for providing the files

Generic Sweden

http://www.multiupload.com/TJD9TXU1H7

Thanks to Waden for providing the files

Singapore Generic

http://www.multiupload.com/AHZLTE3JIH

Thanks to iragon for providing the files

Lt15a Generic US

http://www.multiupload.com/7ET97S0A7P

Thanks to kbadone for the files and Nimche for providing the ftf file

Rogers Branded

http://www.multiupload.com/3GRFDY87RC

Thanks to BlueChipJ for the link

Note: Root isnt working using superoneclick or gingerbread method

It will wipe everything so make sure you guys back up your files
[Xperia Arc Android Development] rumnyc:
Here are the list of changes I found so far and the dump:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=14080867
[Xperia Arc Android Development] ajftl:
Flash it using flashtool?
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Rycon33:
Can be used using fastboot?

- Sent from my Arc thru XDA Premium App
[Xperia Arc Android Development] rahul.pillai:
Yes, that is correct. Flashing it as I type...
[Xperia Arc Android Development] fuchikei:
thanks mate!!!

lets try try first!!!
[Xperia Arc Android Development] akusokuzan:
anyone able to root with gingerbreak?
[Xperia Arc Android Development] johnsin:
Could you please try to root using Gingerbreak? Thanks.
[Xperia Arc Android Development] waanz:
is this a full image or just the system.img (in order not to wipe data and apps) ?

thanks
[Xperia Arc Android Development] jatt101:
yes it is a full image, flash using flashtool, and it will wipe everything, so make sure you backup your files, and rooting doesn't work on this firmware unfortunately
[Xperia Arc Android Development] SuperDeform:
Awsmness thank u
[Xperia Arc Android Development] waanz:
thanks.

I'm familiar with fastboot to flash but not flashtool.

- the HK Rom zip file has two files in it. Do I use them as is or do I need to build a tft file as I read somewhere?

- what do you use to backup your apps and not having to reinstall everything ?

Thanks again

waanz
[Xperia Arc Android Development] waanz:
ignore my previous request. I found this and separate thread

<quote>

Hi here's a guide for flashing a Firmware on Xperia Arc using Flashtool. Below are the links:

Instructions -- http://www.theandroidsoul.com/tutori...-on-xperia-arc

Video guide -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmmThXTWu74

</quote>
[Xperia Arc Android Development] waanz:
actually still needs to make the tft file from the two files in the zip...
[Xperia Arc Android Development] DooMLoRD:
one request:

why dont u guys use rar/7zip to compress these files?

ftf files compress by almost 30% to 70% if u use 7zip (LZMA ultra high compression)

would save a lot of bandwidth, upload & download time...

see:

~280 MB compressed to ~150MB
[Xperia Arc Android Development] kiz1983:
erm can someone make the rom rootable by using the previous method, not by using gingerbreak?
[Xperia Arc Android Development] tyronne77:
Worked great using Flashtool method

Boots in like under 10 seconds now. Extremely fast. Even launcherpro seems to be running smoother. Bloatware is a bit of a negative though easily remedied. Facebook integration is there but tbh makes no difference to me:D
[Xperia Arc Android Development] guaiwujia:
many thanks～～
[Xperia Arc Android Development] guaiwujia:
right & great & agree
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Rycon33:
hi kiz, you may look at the thread by kanzone, he updated it with this new HK rom
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droid512:
so like the thread says has anyone tried or read anything about netflix being able to run on the tab, I have a vztab that is on its way back from service so havent tried the the netflix-devicecheck-disabled.apk on it but im assuming it wont work without 2.3. So my question really is have any of the gsm tab users been able to have netflix with the gingerbread leak.

sorry if its been asked I havent seen or read anything about it yet
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Seamus1:
I tried the first one that has device check disabled. Netflix opens with that one, but when I go to log on it crashes.

So, I tried the other modified one, and that one lets me log in and view my queue, but when I try to watch something I get an error that says

"Sorry we could not reach the Netflix service. Please try again later. If the problem persists please visit netflix.com. (1005)"

So, I am not sure if that is a genuine Netflix error, or an error with the apk itself.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droid512:
Theres a mod you install after the modified apk thats supposed to make it not crash

Sent from my Nexus One
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elnene20:
What mod is this you speak of???
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Timwarner:
I also tried the two modified netflix apps with the same results. Neither worked.

I would be interested to hear if someone actually got it working.

Tim