yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Google maps doesn't use three fingers to turn 360 degrees. And why does always anyone attack when they here something about multi-touch? Tell me please? Do I have to quote something of my post lol?

Well, because I've got time I post the quote.
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
Edited to avoid off topic discussions.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
You don't miss anything lol...
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
^^^

Already been discussed in this thread.

playgunsta has made it clear that the SE helper or what ever.

Has said the x10 is getting MT.

2 fingers or 3 i don't care.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
There ya go, why users want always more then possible/needed.
[XPERIA X10 General] Evynnstarr:
All I want is 16M colours and I'm happy.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
If SE optimizes the GPU driver 24bit color is way possible.

For now i use dithering on my phone and i am quite happy with that.
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
All right. I will sink back into darkness then :p
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
16million colours will use more CPU and RAM, so if they've found a way to reduce that you can expect 16 million colours :)!
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
They NEEEEEED to increase the volume. EVERYTHING else is a bonus.........:o
[XPERIA X10 General] eureka9092000:
Check it out..

http://android.modaco.com/content-page/341817/in-search-at-se/page/20/
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
For me call volume is even to hard LOL.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
To any and all SE staff reading this page.

"we know you are watching" :)

We don't hate you, we don't like fighting with you.

All we want is to be proud of what we have "a SE smart phone" and the 2.3 update is the one chance to rectify all the wrong and bring a new queen to the chess board.

Make us proud, make us happy.

Make us.believe again. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] abrarabbu:
SE staff is not interested in anyone.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
That's why they give us Gingerbread? Yeah, right like I will believe they're not interested in us.
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
The page: http://www.sonyericsson.com/br/preview/aparelhos/xperia-x10/android-2-3-x10-ganhara-multitouch has gone walkabout...
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
It looks like it's the "X10 is getting GB" all over again.

Probably SE Brazil spoke too soon... again! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] pcfanboy142:
I think you mean eclair
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
no she mean gingerbread.

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Expecting an online chat customer service rep for Sony Ericsson phones to have working info the cross axis behavior of an update that hasn't been confirmed or released yet is moronic. Especially when you don't ask the right questions. It's like talking to someone who doesn't speak your language. They answer "yes" to everything you say.

If the front people for SE don't have this information yet, what makes you think an hourly online customer service rep has SE's official specs of a multitouch update? Maybe where you work, McDonald's, the dishwasher can also flip burgers and take your order, but in the real world, the lowest level employees are the last to know.

I actually think that we will get multitouch, but Play's online chat doesn't confirm anything for me. If anything it confirms neither of them are clear on the subject.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
If you think it, and are not sure about it you should argue about it ;) You were one of those people that said we won't get multitouch because it's not possible. (Sorry, if you're not one of them there were so many of them O.o. If you aren't just act like I haven't replied.)

Please don't reply to this, since it's a bit off-topic.

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I've read on the Product Blog that ''Moxier is replaced by the gingerbread native EAS functionality.''. What's the EAS functionality?

They also said ''DRM keys for protected content on your phone will be lost in the upgrade process.'' I did read somewhere in SE Developer World that DRM keys are something with the bootloader. So maybe we'll get a unlocked bootloader. Btw, I will try searching for the article on SE Developer World for you guys.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
The DRM keys are related to media I think, not the bootloader

EAS = exchange active service I think

And I wish they didn't remove Moxier... I had to buy it just to have access to my work email since Gingerbread still doesn't have the security features required by the mail server
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I did read the post twice, and I'm sure they said it was something with the bootloader of the x10.
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
What are you talking about? I am one of the only ones who believes it is possible. I am the one who has argued that we don't know if it's the Clearpad, and that this is more due to the multitouch patent.

Do you have a twin brother, a child who accesses your profile, or an alter ego? Some of your posts and threads are very helpful and informative, and then some I feel like it's your first time. Or maybe OmegaRED is hacking your account, lol. ;-)
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
just Save the apk on your sd and you can install it after update.

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] kanchigo:
Change somethingin build.prob and moxier shuold work. I use it with no problem on trip's mui rom
[XPERIA X10 General] rederik79:
Just a little OT

But this method to unlock the bootloader listed in the sony ericsson site don't work for the x10?

http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/instructions
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
thats because its not unlocked yet!

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] rederik79:
Sorry Xperia but i don't understand you
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
...Not for all the tea in China!

You can generate a code, but the X10 can't enter into fastboot, so it's completely useless.
[XPERIA X10 General] rederik79:
Ok, thank's, i have understand now.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
True they said DRM content keys.

Ironically no similar than a factory reset.

O_O' am i really that random.
[XPERIA X10 General] williams_chuck:
looking forward for that! really eager! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] moritd:
i hope it comes today:)

but surely those rumors arent true!
[XPERIA X10 General] tadhara:
Shhhh! They are true, we're getting it! Be positive! make.believe
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
Sadly it is not arriving today. PTCRB would have it by now on their list but it isn't there.

http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16756

However, here in America it is still the 19th...so maybe one more day.

But it is what it is. A rumor.
[XPERIA X10 General] twistadeb:
I hope you are wrong. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Pretty sure the rumor of today was withdrawn by Xperia84. Said hopefully by the 29th, but it was just his guess.
[XPERIA X10 General] lightyear420:
I just left SE US chat where I asked about 3+ touch points, 16m colors, kernel changes, and an unlocked bootloader. They were EXTREMELY rude and seemed like they were bothered to have to deal with me asking such questions. I was told "you will find out when the update is released to the general public"

I actually had to start a second chat because the first rep I spoke with was so rude he told me they weren't able to answer that because they were not the tech department, but rather basic customer service....than he ended chat in the middle of me typing a question!!

And I thought AT&T's customer service reps were rude.....:rolleyes:

BTW, the second rep acknowledged SE talk is down and they are working on it, but there is absolutely no estimated return date. I asked "will it be this year" and was told "we don't have any specific information to give you at this time"

rudest ****ing people I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with!!!! That chat alone has me debating selling my phone and leaving SE altogether....thank god there are much friendlier, intelligent people here who can at least give me a straight answer! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
We should just flood their chat rooms with questions about our X10's and Gingerbread...maybe then they will realize the gravity of the situation. Haha...but I agree there chat room people are very rude and rarely answer your question...I'm starting to think they are computers...but every now and then they make grammatical mistakes...
[XPERIA X10 General] Henry Andy:
Our phones are from sony may be SE was already been hacked by Lulz.... it is the only justification i could take for this waiting
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Lol sony come save the day stop this madness
[XPERIA X10 General] mfknboss:
+1 on the catfight lmfao
[XPERIA X10 General] b00f:
Haha @ this thread

I was checking for the upgrade vis SEUS, but nothing..

Honestly, I cbf'd with complaining and *****ing about this....

It isnt going to help...

It's like the release of GT5 on PS3....

How about every one just chills outs and just waits for the update...
[XPERIA X10 General] FallenOut:
True. Fighting and such wont bring the updates any faster
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
But it sure helps pass the time :)
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
Hahaha we can expect more trolling action coming =D
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Guys ive cleaned this thread try and keep your cool

If you really feel the need to let us know how you feel. refrain from posting it in the forums

grab this picture

And email it to each other
[XPERIA X10 General] FallenOut:
Nice work pilot. But I prefer something more to the male side lolz
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Today is the 20th so hopefully Sony will update there dang blog about something. I'm sick of looking at that desert winds game

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] eureka9092000:
From sony dev blog:

Ivan Smirnow says:

June 20, 2011 at 10:16 am

Estimated date: 20.6.2011 to 10.7.2011

Sony Ericsson does not provide an upgrade to version 2.3.3 platform, as well as the development of applications for X10 mini models, X10 mini pro, X8.

The update is intended only for the flagship X10, in order to maintain a line of flagship products such as models of the XPERIA ™ X10, XPERIA ™ Arc, XPERIA ™ PLAY

More details will be sent when updates are available.
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
So in the worst case 20 more days to wait =D
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16755

Nothing on PTCRB for X10i.

I guess its better to check PTCRB rather than zillion of sony blogs and dev blogs.

The update will be registered here first.
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
Will probably be more than 20 days, cant rely on se for updates. N the blog is a waste of time. I love the x10 but waiting like this for something most phones had ages ago isa joke. My next phone will definately be htc they clearly have the more qualified devs who can deliver on time
[XPERIA X10 General] baz@gmx.co.uk:
they do?.. i thought they just reneged on 2.3? don't give then such a hard time again, we were told we would never get past 2.1, the promise was e/Q2 - Q3. i make that over three months. we all want it now and want to bash it out of se, give them a chance to deliver this update on time before starting the fires please :D
[XPERIA X10 General] bra1n0uk:
No... i think it will be on the 20th day (july 10th). Se like to leave to the last possible day in the of the eta
[XPERIA X10 General] hon kin:
Off topic question:

I keep seeing that you guys want the 16M color, i wonder what is the bit depth you guys had now?

65K? 262K?
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
right now we have 65k colors.

SE very cleverly used a blue background in the stock ROM to hide the lack of colors.

just look at the same picture on X10 and Vivaz with highest brightness and there is a BIG DIFFERENCE
[XPERIA X10 General] Yu-Gi-Oh !:
Every body you waited for 2 months and 9 days for the update, can't wait little longer.

Long time based and short time remain ;)

I wish good health to every one.

ありがとう (Arigatō) :)

(sorry for my poor English and Japanese Language) :cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] hon kin:
Wow! I'm surprised! Even my P500 has a 262k one and sometimes the gradient on my wallpaper is quite obvious! I cant imagine a previous flagship device just manage to show 65k one the screen![1.6 has the screen res cap, but 2.1 has removed that isnt?] You guys really deserve a 16M screen...
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
65k screen is almost laughable when you look at what phones have got even 262k
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
it was very clever from Sony's part to use that fancy blue gradient background everywhere to hide the color gradient.if you see other ROMS with different color,the gradient is very obvious.

X10 have excellent but poorly managed hardware.

Vivaz with 600 mhz processor have 65 million colors and better resolution!!
[XPERIA X10 General] Wolfbreak:
65million^^ :D:D:D Wow, i think you mean 16 million

The Hardware is not poorly managed, the Software is poorly managed. X10 is capable of 16m Colors and all that nice things but Sony locked it.
[XPERIA X10 General] eng.adil85:
pls screenshot :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...n-xperia™-x10/comment-page-80/#comment-191126
[XPERIA X10 General] josephnero:
also vivaz has 720cpu not 600.but my X8 with600 cpu has 16M colors
[XPERIA X10 General] eng.adil85:
riginal thanx pro.
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
Thx a lot. Only question is: who is Ivan Smirnow? Is he known as an official (in Russia?) and even more, can he be verified somehow? The problem in the SE blog's comments section is that everyone can write as Ivan Smirnow or Rikard Skodberg, right?

Well, IF there's a way to verify that guy, THEN this is really good news :D
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
Exactly, Actually I'm searching right now to see who is this guy but still no luck
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
Did the same, cannot find a Ivan Smirnow or Smirnov in relation to SE. I'll ask Rikard for a verification in the blog comments.
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
Gingerbread Update

I would not, if I were you, hold out much hope based on comments from some faceless so and so supposedly representing SE. History teaches that SE give themselves at the very least a month to begin roll out after any official announcement. By that, if we hear something officially from SE in the last few days of June, then we can expect roll out to begin at the end of July. However, if we hear nothing this month, then I don't think the update will be released before end of August.

I know they said ending of q2/ beginning of q3 but a delay is nothing new to SE.

Even though I am looking forward to the update as much as the rest of you, I just don't want to get whipped into the same frenzy that followed the 2.1 update. That was just damn unhealthy stuff.
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
yeah & it seems fake anyway I mean just a comment in there to say the update may start TODAY?
[XPERIA X10 General] nipun123:
their is nothing coming untill they post a FW on here http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16755
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
WHAT?? even X8 has 16M colors....never knew that,just learn it today!!!

Damn!!
[XPERIA X10 General] moritd:
@ person who said SE deleted the brazil MT page

the whole of SE site dont work and seams it`s their maintenance

and hope the update Include the MT <2+ finger> :)
[XPERIA X10 General] khakhi:
News just came in now:

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/06/20/update-on-gingerbread-for-xperia™-x10/
[XPERIA X10 General] Lofwyr:
Source: http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/06/20/update-on-gingerbread-for-xperia%E2%84%A2-x10/
[XPERIA X10 General] Farik335:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfEOU8juGec&feature=feedu the video about 2.3 on X10 from Sony Ericsson
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Looks like update is coming in a few dsys

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
DAMN! He doesn't go into About Phone :p

Is it just me or the colors look much richer ? Might be because i am so eager to get this update. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Lofwyr:
I guess we're still, at least, a month and half away.
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
He says nothing about the new features like I was hoping. I wanted some things about like fps caps removed or multi touch but I guess we have to wait until around June 29th

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] raihansazal:
One more month again:-(
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
AUGUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
Also NO MULTITOUCH

NO 16 MILLION colors
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Why does he need to

We know were getting the same kernel as new xperia cause he said

Wifi hotspot usb tethering which will only work with 2.6.32 and above

I love how he didnt say anything extra ordinary like

Unlocked locked bootloader

16m colors or 65k colors

Fps cap( looked as though still implemented)

Multitouch or dualtouch

Kernel

They could of just told us to watch a video of the arc and give us the list of features we dont have

Hdmi out

Large display

Super thin

More ram

More internal storage
[XPERIA X10 General] Farik335:
X10 has more internal storage (1gb) than Arc (384 mb)
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
equalizer in the music player.

Guys, it's for me worth waiting :)! I'm in HEAVEN!
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Total storage

Arc has more than 384 mb total
[XPERIA X10 General] jonleyo:
Glad to see that the new interface. Really sweet... even though I'm already using the arc's home.

And I think everything will be smooth with what I saw. That is really cool.

Can't wait until august. :(
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Its smoother than all of our custom 2.3

Waiting

Lol probably 6 more threads are gonna pop up in the dev section
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
................
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
he replied to my post

Rikard Skogberg says:

June 20, 2011 at 3:38 pm

KunalGahlot and others,

1) 16M Colors – No, sorry.

2) Upgraded from dual touch – No, still dual touch with focus on pinch gestures, as described in earlier posts and video on that update.

3) No as Karl-Johan has been clear on over at the developer blog this does not enable bootloader unlock on X10.

4) FPS cap, I still haven’t got all details around that but are still trying to get a final answer. Do you have a suggestion on a proper way for me to test on the SW I have?
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
They are hiding something...!!!! CLEARLY!!!!! LOL!!! I'm getting excited!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
This update will be nothing special.

Lets rather rely on our developers.
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
Didn't you see ":p" ? Or should i have used ":D" ? I was just kidding. Xperia84 and holck have already confirmed the new kernel and i believe them.

But wifi/usb tethering can also work with older kernels but i think they will give the same kernel as the Arc(2.6.32) :)
[XPERIA X10 General] kanchigo:
:Dthat doesn't matter much to me..... Anyway, X10 run very smooth on GB

:eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] sjondenon:
damn, GB looks really slow on the X10, scrolling through the homescreens is really slow and it takes ages to open the camera app
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
And this was close to final :D I expect the final update to be even faster. They have done a good job in this one.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Sony's roms are always laggy and slow.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Are you crazy lol? We'll get autofocus (good working one), face detection, multi focus, 720p recording with continious auto focus. Without this update our ROM's above 2.1 would be almost nothing. I would rather have these functions on a stock 2.3 ROM then a CM7 or MIUI Gingerbread with everything working but less functionality in camera.
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
the only thing they did, is porting "arc OS " to x10, and they needed half year for this ... WTF
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
Well after this update I think we can have the best of two worlds: Our favourite GB rom with full camera capabilities, since I think the sources of the SE rom can be ported (and maybe optimized) for custom roms.
[XPERIA X10 General] lightyear420:
Rikard just updated the blog:

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/06/20/update-on-gingerbread-for-xperia™-x10/
[XPERIA X10 General] svtfmook:
i heard this wasn't coming out until august now!
[XPERIA X10 General] bodomfan:
beginning of august mate,confirmed here with a video and details:http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/06/20/update-on-gingerbread-for-xperia™-x10/
[XPERIA X10 General] Karlson2k:
Also on facebook http://www.facebook.com/sonyericsso...118653383389.98058.35313373389&type=1&theater

New video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfEOU8juGec&feature=player_embedded

Quote from blog: "Development and testing is still ongoing and the current plan is start the roll-out in the beginning of August."

From facebook: "later this summer we'll be rolling out the Android 2.3 update for the Xperia X10"
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Are u kidding me. No multi touch no 16 million colors and no cap removal. What the heck. They just ported 2.1 into gingerbread with a few extra features

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] svtfmook:
i heard we're getting gingerbread, is this true?
[XPERIA X10 General] kongmyy:
these extra features made me excited really. especially native tethering. atleast we're getting an official gingerbread update. :) I'm satisfied and I will wait. at the meantime i'll stick with wolfbreak's 006 :D
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Would you rather stay on 2.1

The upside is were getting a newer kernel and full gb . I believw tht the 16m colors and fps cap can be fixed with a new custom kernel
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Where's Xperia84 and his unlocked bootloader now?

also,

joon,

Regarding the kernel I think not. The kernel version in my pre-relase SW is 2.6.29.
[XPERIA X10 General] timotuithof:
agreed but when wil the freexperia team finally implement that damn 16 million colors??
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I hope the SE Camera interface can be ported to MIUI Gingerbread and/or CM7. That's really what I hope. Optimizing is always possible :)
[XPERIA X10 General] o0k00l:
let them first release the update till then we can't say what we are getting .
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Idk i think it was not only kernel but software dependent and it wssnt incorporated into the rom then wouldnt work untill a rom was modified idk. Next phone will not be a sony ericsson
[XPERIA X10 General] svtfmook:
they cannot unlock the bootloader legally.
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
Rikard Skogberg says:

June 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm

joon,

Regarding the kernel I think not. The kernel version in my pre-relase SW is 2.6.29.

.

Regarding 16M colors, as I understood it from the developers it required to much re-development which made it impossible to prioritize, sorry.

SO IT IS POSSIBLE

.

On air control, thanks for the hint! It seems to vary between 30 and 31 fps. As said before I’m trying to find out more on this.

I also tried the Quadrant standard test and got a score of 1033 points. It’s however important to remember that I’m running pre-release SW which first of all isn’t final but could have extra debugging enabled etc also.

.

.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I actually had faith in SE, but now they've delayed their update I don't care what device they will bring in the future. Also the only improvement of our devs their roms will be the camera. I will move to HTC (Only if they get a nice design) or else I will go to Samsung. They said it's planned for end Q2/begin Q3. August is not the begin but middle of Q3!! I'm very dissapointed as SE customer and I spend my damn money on this phone that will not even kept as updated as a Arc would be.

1.5 years left, and I can finally say Hello to HTC/Samsung and bye SE. I don't care what ever they say, they promised fast updates. Well I see, months of work and still a late release then promised. Also, great customer service. NOT, they can't even reply to your questions, and mostly in a NORMAL way without typefaults.