yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] probotic:
I have 3 thunderbolts in the family. Let me go over my status with each one and issues that have occured.

1st Phone: Rooted since release of phone (as soon as it was available). Started with other ROMs, but have been on BAMF 1.6.3 Remix to BAMF GB (first release- current) and stayed current with ROM/Kernel updates.

2nd Phone: Stock until 1 week ago. Went to Froyo BAMF 1.6.3 Remix, then right to GB Radio and BAMF 2.0 beta 4.

3rd Phone: Stock until 1 week ago. This phone had FC issues and locked up, as Stock. Went to Froyo BAMF 1.6.3 Remix, phone runs great now.

The first phone had an issue where the phone shutoff. Wouldn't boot or take a charge. Once you pulled the battery all was well and hasn't happened again. 80% sure this was on Froyo. (1-2 weeks ago)

The 2nd and 3rd phones, experienced the same shutoff issue as the 1st phone. This was after rooting the phone (within 48 hours of root), one was GB radio and the other Froyo.

That said, If this phone shutoff (only happened once, per phone) issue, is a sign of bricking, then it's not radio specific, being the Froyo phone (phone #3) has never been on GB radio. However, all phones are currently running fine as/is. 2 GB radios, 1 Froyo.

Note: Only thing done in RM (Rom Manager) was updates for itself. All ROM, Kernel, Patches, Clearing caches, etc was done in CWR.

That said, I'm staying on GB 2.0 beta 5 w/ updated 2.5.4 beta 6 kernel.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jawonder:
Man i'm feeling like a teenager who have lost the girl he love . God i miss this rom so much , this was the best one i ever flashed and i'ved flashed a lot . I change the radio a restore a backup of Remix 1.6.3 but i'm still feeling lost and lonely , "i want my Remix 2.0-5 back". The only reason i came off is because i'm thinking that the developers are not gonna do anything more with GB . I have 3 phones - Att iPhone , Droid X and a Thunderbolt and i normally carry them all with me i'm a tech junkie for life but life is feeling bad for me right now without my GB Remix . Please let them solves this problem so this Rom can continue development .
[Thunderbolt Android Development] seanheng:
I had the same issue where the phone just turns off and needs battery pull,

but after flashing GB 2.0 beta 5 w/ updated 2.5.4 beta 6 kernel the issue is gone.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pcm2a:
One question, one complaint.

1. Can I change what shortcuts are in the notification quick settings area? With the other style like the Perfect Storm rom has you can change them out by editing some /system/ file.

2. Is there a way to put the notifications at the bottom? With the old style you could drag it down just a little to see your email now you have to open it all the way up.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] monkeymynd:
My TB has been running perfect on 2.0-5. I did flash to 1.6.3 Remix after hearing all the drama. But, I'm seriously considering going back to GB. The only problem I had was frequent data network drops. I think it may be my area though, so I'm going to see how 1.6.3 does and if I get the same issues I'm going back to my GB Rom!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gsxraddict:
+1 I have been debating this all morning lol I'm thinking I will risk it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] freebird_78:
Got a date tonight and can't miss the text or call. After that, I think I'm going back to GB. Can't stand my phone without it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] inspeckta_dek:
You rather b on a date then with your phone flashing it?!?! Your sick man.. lol luck on ur date
[Thunderbolt Android Development] superchilpil:
So is the bamf team going to continue this rom? Or are they going to abandon it til they find the sourse of the bricks?

>--The Game--<
[Thunderbolt Android Development] monkeymynd:
Question for the Das BAMF team. Are you guys actively working on a fix for the possible "brick" issue? I'm guessing so because you guys are BAMF's. Just wondering, because if so I'm going to take my chances going back to GB and hope for an update/fix in the near future.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] inspeckta_dek:
Think they said they'll stop until another radio comes out.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mallen462:
I get great battery life with this Rom 14 hours with normal use while on 4G
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pcm2a:
What exactly is the brick problem? I put this rom on yesterday, coming from Perfect Storm, and I have not had a single issue. I flipped through about 10 pages of posts talking about a "brick" but none saying when it occurs.

It has me worried now....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mallen462:
I'm staying with this Rom no issues yet "knock on wood" 4G works great I had random reboots earlier but a full wipe fixed the issue
[Thunderbolt Android Development] iastonish:
Unlike how one typically bricks their phone, this new brick seems to be completely random and can happen at any time, even if you have flashed the rom and it seems to be running great. Users have experienced reboots, then they get stuck in bootloop and can't even access hboot or recovery to flash an older radio or nandroid.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] inspeckta_dek:
After a couple of days on a gb Rom n radio people are experiencing bootloops. Even if u go into cw recovery you still get bootloops. Devs don't know what's causing it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pcm2a:
Yeah, I just found the XDA warning thread. I'm downloading the RUU (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1096104) they recommend.

What all is the RUU (Custom upgrade PG05IMG_MR1_upgrade.zip) going to replace? The radio and the rom?

Afterwards I assume I can just restore from my Perfect Storm backup I made before flashing this rom and radio.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ska.t73:
Yep it will put you back on the froyo radio and stock rom with root.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pcm2a:
That will do I suppose. I think I'll give this BAMF 1.7 a shot before restoring my backup. Time for a fresh change and all that...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] alexdw369:
+1 I'm on board for keeping this ROM. Sounds like a fairly low percentage of phones getting bricked, and this is the first ROM I've used that's been stable...I would get random reboots (as many as 3 per hour) previously, and even random shutdowns where it would just turn off in my pocket at work, and I wouldn't know for hours. I ride a motorcycle and am normally very talkative, so my phone being off for 7 hours during the day tends to scare my poor mother a little :/ I haven't had one random reboot and it hasn't shut off randomly either.

Also, battery life overall isn't quite as good as BAMF 1.6, HOWEVER, the 4G drain seems to have been fixed for me on BAMF 2.0. Previously, the 4G radio would chew through the battery in 6-7 hours, so I'd have to switch to 3G only or leave wifi enabled at work and home. Now I can leave 4G enabled and still get 12-14 hours pretty easily on BAMF 2.0 with the leaked radio.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jawonder:
I always have radios on my SD Card all i did is rename the PG05IMG.zip by putting GB at the end of the Gb Radio and Froyo at the end of the Froyo Radio so when i want to Flash one of them i remove Froyo or Gb and i'm left with the PG05IMG.zip ready to Flash , when i'm done flashing i rename it again . Or you can keep them in your download folder and move the to root of the SD Card when ready . This saves me from searching for them and downloading again and i'll always have them in case i need them and there no data connection to download. So all i did was flash the Froyo Radio and restore my backup of Remix 1.6.3 .
[Thunderbolt Android Development] trebb:
Don't really have time to revert to anything else and I (stupidly) don't have any nandroid backups. I'll stick with this for a while and keep my fingers crossed that nothing happens.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] probotic:
I've been on GB radio as soon as jcase posted it. I figured, if it's damage hardware I want it to brick so I can get a new one from Verizon. That said, I'm going to keep GB until the next radio comes out or until it bricks.

Note to Self: Backup sd card to computer ASAP.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Spaniard85:
Sooo, after reflashing beta 5 and imoseyon's latest test kernel, I've noticed that I have no gallery app...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shiftyshadee:
Patch is in the OP

Sent from the Matrix via payphone
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
If there is enough demand, I can be convinced to continue working on the rom of death.

I want to see it in writing though :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] HashTagHell:
The statement of the day....

...and I'll pass.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Carnage9270:
I would love to see new versions just for entertainment value :)

Sorry being a smartass here. I'll be waiting before making my move back to gingerbread. Appreciate your time in development though.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mcluvn:
Keep it goin. Everyone knows the risks. I haven't had any probs yet so I say let games continue.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jaysckap:
Hell yea keep goin. When we get a safe radio well have nice new BAMF ROM OF DEATH waitin for us. I would call it that too :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jhr:
Bring it on. I love the risk. And its our own fault if something happens. I lobve netflix working. I have like 10 gigs of data used and still have half way through my billing cycle no hotspot used yet
[Thunderbolt Android Development] amosavitas:
do work man
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jhr:
Also I prefer working netflix over working Skype. It's funny how I got a Google email thanking me for purchasing the Samsung galaxy S.

Like I said I prefer netflix.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] le0.br4zuc4:
F**k no, I'm not going back, that's the reason I have insurance .... I'm loving this way too much
[Thunderbolt Android Development] skeeter123:
Viva la ROM 'o Death!!!

Sent from my ADR6400L das_BAMF'd
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 52brandon:
I've been lucky enough to have no radio issues up to this point, so I plan on sticking with this ROM. So, please keep working on it

edited cuz I'm retarded
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gadget!:
Does it need to be signed in blood?

If you decide to continue I'm coming back!

BAMF rocks but BAMF GB is over the top.

Sent from my B.A.M.F. Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] djbeanpole:
DO IT NOWWWWWWW!!!!

;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gohamstergo:
thats what is housekeeper said
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mkcoastie:
BAMF Rom of Death! Even with a perfectly stable froyo Rom, we run a risk of something going wrong everytime we flash and - viola! We have a paperweight. We all know this risk......and yet we flash. While I appreciate the warning (the risk may now come when you least expect it) I plan on staying on gb. This Rom is amazing, and I would love to see updates on it. I will proudly run the BAMF Rom of death! And if that day comes that I ask walking into Verizon with my dead thunderbolt......I will do it with my head held high.knowing that I was BAMF GB till the end.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MattCropley:
ill take the risk. nice work!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] johndiblasi:
Everyone knows the risk. I have been running BAMF since its inception. GB has been amazing and untill this Rom came out I really was regeting purchasing a thunderbolt . Which to me, other than screen size and memory was no better than my incredible .

I think I speak for everyone that we do appreciate everything devs do and would love to keep the ball rolling on this build.

Thank you
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mcpo117:
I have no problem taking the risk. I know they check less than 1 in 15 phones when sent in under warranty. Yes I play poker too. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MattCropley:
well said. i was feeling the same way leaving my incredible behind.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MattCropley:
assurion

Just out of curiosity does anyone know how much the deductible for a new thunderbolt from assurion is? ui know it is usually like 90, but this is a high end device so is it more?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] psicrest:
Still running 2.0-5. Im taking the risk, hoping that OP would still develop on this rom.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] enilm:
I agree. We are already taking risks by rooting and flashing custom ROMs. No need to back down now. Soon there will be another GB radio leak. I'm sticking to GB.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] le0.br4zuc4:
I take the risk. When is the 2.0-6 out again?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] le0.br4zuc4:
+1
[Thunderbolt Android Development] stastnysnipes26:
I'm sticking with GB. I have a feeling that these bricked phones have something to do with improper rooting/flashing in ROM manager/ not wiping data and cache properly. I know I personally did all those things properly, so I'm going to stick with GB.

Best ROM ever. Plus working netflix on my phone is amazing. My cable was out the other night so I was still able to lay in bed and watch south park on my BAMF'd T-Bolt.

Thanks for all of your hard work at team BAMF over there. Please continue to develop the "ROM of death" as I've seen it called lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lazaruslonge:
Started with 1.6.3 Remix (yes - newbie) and loved it. I think I'll stick with GB and hope for the best.

Thanks again for all you do - fanf***kingtastic work guys.

(once I recover from tax season, I'll float you some beer money :D)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kyrumo71:
Please continue the development on your GB roms, I think we all understand that your not responsible for any bricked Thunderbolts.

I really like your work

Thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sneaky_zekey:
I'm still on the Rom. Of would be cool if sms/mms gets some fixes. I send/receive double texts and they not on order.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gsxraddict:
Hell yeah! I will run GB bamf til this is nothing but lifeless plastic. Bring on the builds!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Ipod touch could be jailbroken by going to jailbreakme.com, blackra1n, or a couple other methods. You want ipodlinux, you have to have done a full hacking jailbreak or it messes up when modding the bootloader because that part was skipped over.

Have we looked into what rooting method was used? Are they all exactly the same? With all the mirrors did people md5 the radio?

What im saying is a lot of times with the fastest easiest methods, stuff can get bypassed that isnt needed at the time, but might be needed later. Dont think its a reason to stop playing, just wear protection ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mngdew:
Please continue working on GB!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] stayin100:
Ugh, I really want to try this rom out, thinking I'm gonna make the plunge tomorrow. A bricked phone isn't that big of a worry, I'm sure if there is a known way to get it back I can do it after the right amount of searches. But It defiantly could be an inconvince... I have insurance as well, just don't want to go into CLNR hell like I did with my fascinate after some non root related problems that came up with my original phone.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] arcanexvi:
I "demand" continuation of the GB ROM development. I even tracked down a working VVM for you. :P

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1098526
[Thunderbolt Android Development] redtechjunky:
Repost:

hey guys do the devs a favor and run this and post in the thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1098363

Sent from the Swag ThunderBolt ADR6400L with some GingerLove (SuperStable Gingeritis VIII, Sense 3.0 addons = Winning) using XDA Premium App

Sent from the Swag ThunderBolt ADR6400L with some GingerLove (SuperStable Gingeritis VIII, Sense 3.0 addons = Winning) using XDA Premium App
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lilcdroid:
Looking forward to further development as well. This has been the smoothest thing i've had the pleasure to run in a long time.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidXCalibur:
Wrong time??

First time user of BAMF; love it! Everything seems really stable, quick, and smooth: very nice work!!

I did notice something right off the bat that I can't find the answer to: my time is wrong by 11 minutes fast...the time zone is correct (would only be an hourly problem anyway) and everything else seems to be in order....the 11 minutes fast thing is weird; also, in my google calendar, the times are off...all the events are there and correct, but the times are wrong: yesterday's entry as per google calender (web) says 10:00am - 3:30pm, on the calender on the bolt it says 1:00pm - 6:30pm .... same is true with every entry in google....any ideas??

I'm running Bamf 2.0-5; ALPHA Gingerbread 2.01.605.0 radio from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1045081 ...that is all I have done so far because I haven't had time to mess with patches yet

That's really it for now; so far, looks like I'll stick with this ROM for a while :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hogowner:
did you try doing a battery pull....then start her back up again??
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mikemosh511:
You've warned us about the bricking problems, and we all love your work enough to risk it. GB or bust I say!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Daswolven:
Pretty much every path of logic leads to the bricks happening in flawed devices. That being said, right now theres no way to verify a flawed device. The GB radio being the most likely accellerant only means theres a good possibility of the same issue hitting when the OTA rolls out for defective hardware owners.

I'm comfortable after rolling back to Froyo, only because it's still new to me on the TB. I like the call recording feature, and have had none of the BT issues on the 1.63 or 1.7 that I saw on 2.0+.

If I start to see the broken call issue on Froyo, or there's some definitive word on the brick issues, I will immediately move back to GB.

A defective device is a defective device. I have one or I don't.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidXCalibur:
Just did that ...it started up with the correct time...and then w/in a minute, it changed back to being fast, w/in another minute it changed back to the correct time...lol we'll see if it stays...."battery pull" ...how stupid am I to not think of that??? hahaha, you sir get the thumbs up from me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hogowner:
NO PROBLEM glad I could have helped....

believe me..I asked alot of questions that when I heard the answer,,,,,I said the same thing...

"how stupid am I to not think of that?"
[Thunderbolt Android Development] froader:
Same thong happened to me as well. I got no response to my posts. I am PST, but the HTC calendar seemed to EST. Also the sense clock "home" time was tied to Mountaim time(AZ). Go.figure, and messing up things. I reverted back to Froyo with no such issues! I would definately like to see this fixed.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] techspecs:
You 'post to be up cookin breakfast for somebody- that's like a alarm clock! Woo Woo!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jawonder:
I jawonder would like OP adrynalyne to continue working on this Awesome Rom and i will Flash the hell out of whatever update and tweaks that you put out for it , so help me .

Sign ..... jawonder
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MrKleen1:
I would like to see it continue myself. To be honest your Gingerbread rom has been the best rom I've had. It works great and the battery is wonderful. I went back to 1.6.3 for a bit after all this nonsense and the battery is back to rapid fire discharge. In order to make it last I have to turn off data.

With your gingerbread rom I could go all day no problem with 4g a blaring away.

Yes please continue working on it!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MrKleen1:
You might try re-flashing your rom because I do not have the issues you are experiencing.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sirmims:
what everyone else is saying, would love further development on this rom. you guys are wizards you took a nonfunctioning pile and turned it into a full functioning rom in days. the only issue i see with GB right now is the SMS time sync issue other than that this rom is perfect
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
I have ordered a new machine to work on. Once I get it, I will dive back in. Until then, I will try and piddle on this laptop, but its really, really inadequate.

It took me 12 minutes to zip a rom the other day. No lie.

Quad core i7 with 16gb of ram should speed things up though. Bad thing is, its 7-12 business days shipping.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] PJnc284:
posted this in one of the other threads but since you posted I'll post it here. For those of us who are remaining on Gingerbread for the sake of science, is there any other device information that we should get now while our devices are up that might be helpful in the event that ours bite the dust?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jawonder:
Thank you very much sir , Amen .
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ddarvish:
i wish a new leak of a ROM and Radio would happen already so they can restart development.. at this point it would be beneficial for HTC or VZW to have a leak especially if the new leak doesnt have the bricking issue so that there arent as many bricked phones...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hogowner:
go to the market there is an app to fix the time....

do a search for sms time fix
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hyghpocalypse:
HTC clock widget with FB/Twitter updates

Now that this thread has been reduce to simple and understandable Q&A's and people not barking about the same knowns (somewhat)...

Is anyone using the HTC clock widget with FB/Twitter updates? Is it working for you? -This question goes to all still using the BAMF GB rom.

To the devs: the radio (firmware) of death has been the only firmware that allows me to pick up GPS in under 5 secs since day one from from VZW. It also allows me to run on 4g w/o flipping between 3g/1x. If my phone dies, no responsibility will be placed on you from me. So thanks for your previous work.

h2
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mkcoastie:
You sir, are a good man. May your new machine bring you speed and awesomeness just as you have brought speed and awesomeness to our tbolts
[Thunderbolt Android Development] enilm:
16GB of RAM? Using Photoshop would kick major ass with that type of RAM. I'm at 6GB i7 and everything runs good as it is.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gadget!:
Tried to come back...

I'm completely stumped!

I decided I wanted to come back to the goodness of GB but for some reason it's not happening for me.

My first attempt, (and should have been a piece of cake) was to wipe everything, clear everything, install the GB radio do a factory reset and restore from a backup that I made of GB.

No luck!

I have flashed from Froyo back to GB at least 5 times now and can not get it to work.

I have tried 3 different versions of the ROM, I have downloaded the radio again, my phone just does not want me back on GB :)

I have tried the radio first, the ROM first, it doesn't matter. When I boot up I get completely through the bootanimation and it hangs on the last screen.

And yes, I waited long enough (1 time I waited 1/2 hour).

I have tried battery pulls, you name it.

I did get it to boot completely 1 time.

I tried loading the Remix version of GB, 1st boot I got stuck in Setup force close hell so I rebooted and got it to completely boot but had no signal.

I have read several people say to switch to Airplane mode and back so I tried that. I got into airplane mode just fine but when I tried to turn it off the option was grayed out (in both the toggles and the network menu in set up).

I am not new to this, I flashed my first phone back in 1974 (Motorola V-710) and have been flashing since. I hate stock!

Some of you guys will remember "seem edits" and "MPT" now that's taking things back a bit :)

I'm completely satisfied with 1.6.3 (what I'm running now) but I miss the sweet eye candy of GB.