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[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
SE them self seems to agree with me.

http://mobile.twitter.com/SEAnswers

"SEAnswers @ BigDaveA Generic unbranded X10 devices are getting 2.3 shortly"

Shortly I take like 1 maximum 2 weeks

And like I have pointed out before I have never said that the release will come between 20 and 30 of June I said " the only thing I have heard is the end of June and that is between 20 & 30 of June" BUT I never said IT WILL be released then.

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
I so hope this thing is happening on the 20th....if on the PTCRB website doesn't have it tomorrow I will be upset.
[XPERIA X10 General] FallenOut:
Lets keep our fingers crossed
[XPERIA X10 General] Xstatique:
Depends on their definition of "shortly" I suppose
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Just a question, since I wasn't here for the whole 2.1 fiasco, did SE also say that things were 'on schedule' and 'on time' for the 2.1 update throughout? Because there were delays, but did SE always just ignore that and say things were going well and stick to their original release date?
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
In the past "shortly" mean't a couple of months for SE...haha. But David seems like a trustworthy guy and hopefully he means in a couple of days.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
thats true but shortly is closer then soon, so if there were several weeks till the release I think they would type soon instead of shortly but thats my opinion.

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] Andre Verissimo:
UAProf

According to http://www.xperiax10.net/, "latest Xperia X10 UAProf highlights Gingerbread could be coming very soon".

If they're right, we'll not have 16 M, like the modern mobiles have.

Sad.
[XPERIA X10 General] FallenOut:
Lets hope it really is shortly
[XPERIA X10 General] efx_d3:
a few hours ago to send a message sonyericsson and this was what I responded:

Thank you for having contacted the Customer Service Centre Sony Ericsson.

We inform you about a possible upgrade to 2.2 or 2.3 on Android devices X10, X10 Pro Mini and Mini at the moment has not yet confirmed anything, just a matter of waiting you can get more information especially if such an upgrade is possible, you may visit the Sony Ericsson Blog, as in the constantly provides information concerning the updates can be released soon.

are saying? I send sonyericsson Mexico

I think that they know nothing ..

sorry for my bad English, I use google translator
[XPERIA X10 General] karun11:
So what they're saying is that the update MAY be for the entire 2010 lineup?
[XPERIA X10 General] josephislee:
Nope, the update is only for the X10. These Sony Ericsson staff members are completely clueless of what is going on LOL. They said the xperia lineup might be updated to 2.2 or 2.3 when the X10(and only the x10) has been confirmed for a Q2-Q3 update to gingerbread(2.3). So no, only the X10 will get updated as of now and SE has no plans for the older x10 family of phones.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
Shortly on planet SE means 2012..............;)

Soon is 'before the decade is out'

and we are working on it means 'next century'

They are dreadful at launch publicity................

While we are at it, SE promised an update to address poor incall volume months ago, pre 2.1. THAT has never been delivered. I guess its because they are 'working on it'
[XPERIA X10 General] shinzu:
Try the FreeKernel 3.51, it fixed the in call volume problem for me (it's not 100% as it should be, but if I would rate ICV before 3, it's now like 6-7).
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
Actually, yes, it was a fiasco, they announced a few days before the supposed release (end of September)

that the update was pushed back a month or so (end of October).

BUT they were awfully quiet before that announcement,

so maybe now this is not the case, since Rikard in the product blog a few days ago

said everything is going according to schedule and SE Brazil announced the multitouch and SEAnswers said that it's coming soon.

We can only hope... And wait. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Hzu:
X10 GB update has been officially announced.

http://touch.sonyericsson.com/en_GB/web/my/home/news/?articleId=132417

P.s. sorry if this has been posted.

This post was sent from a telegraph machine.
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
:eek: :eek: :eek:

You thought this wasn't posted before? :p

Anyway, it's good that they posted it on their site too,

but it's been around the product blog for months, nothing new here.

Like the "the development is proceeding accordning to plan",

although it is vague! :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] Hzu:
Right, I know. But with it being pushed to their website, its a big step forward, for me though.

This post was sent from a telegraph machine.
[XPERIA X10 General] donjamal:
hi,

i asked SE Facebook Help Desk and this is what they said (in Hungarian):

In English:

and you all can see the date when they answered.
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
That probably means "based on the region",

much like when 2.1 first came out for Nordic phones.
[XPERIA X10 General] botson:
Can't wait it! I expect to resurrect my X10 again and hope battery management will be crucial.
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Hey guys. The reason why we're getting multitouch is because we have a better version of the x10 mini pros digitizer and that one can have true 3 finger multi touch. So don't be surprised if we get 4 just like the arc. Though I think its most likely 3. Lol

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] vatcho13:
cant wait , if se can optimise the multituch support to make it better that will be nice
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
I would like the source of that intel please....

What company makes the digitizer, and what model is it?
[XPERIA X10 General] lightyear420:
I'm sorry, but misuse of the word 'crucial' is one of my biggest annoyances. Please read the definition below.

Crucial~

Extremely significant or important ; vital to the resolution of a crisis

ex: a snake's fangs are crucial to its survival

therefore, battery life is already crucial, and always has been a crucial issue. I think what you mean is "i hope battery management will be implemented"
[XPERIA X10 General] gagikk:
:D: D: D nic talk
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Its here at XDA my friend. Of course its not officially supported by Sony Ericsson

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
No it's not.

There is no info on the X10's digitizer and how many inputs it takes (Well other than the buggy 2 it does now).

So where did you get your information about that the digitizer is better on the X10 than on the X10 Mini Pro?

Give some digitizer manufacturer and model info.

If you can't come with some facts then stop writing garbage.
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
I tried looking up for the spare digitizer available on internet,the producers don't give info on the touch it can support :/

I think all we can do about the touchscreen and 65 million colors is WAIT.

Btw people were giving comments that X10 cant support 65 million color coz if it does that processor will have to do twice the stuff and we dont have enough RAM and processor for that....but what about Vivaz it has almost half the power and it has 65 m colors.

and guys who use MIUI by trip like me,he has tweaked the colors and surely now the phones displays a lot of color than stock ROM.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Can everyone please shut up about the X10 digitizer and multitouch.

Pretty much everyone is sprouting info out of their you-know-where without ANY facts to back it up.

We don't have real proof that it is a Clearpad 2000 that only accepts buggy dualtouch nor do we have proof that it's another digitizer capable of full multitouch. WE DO NOT KNOW. Some of you act like you know everything, well, you might be wrong.

@PlayGunsta. No. Just because it's buggy doesn't mean it can be fixed. The G1, HTC Desire all have the same cross axis problem. It's a LIMITATION, not a bug, please get your terminology right.

Now can we please leave a topic already beaten to death alone?

Oh my god, wow. Give me proof that our x10 can't shoot at 16 megapixels. How do you know that SE aren't limiting the camera. Tell me those facts.

You can be a complete conspiracy theorist if you want and believe that SE are lying idiots and don't know what they're doing all you want, but you can't use this circular logic. Every heard of 'innocent until proven guilty'? This applies here as well. Until the X10 is PROVED to be able to have full multitouch, it is assumed it CAN'T and the dualtouch is the best we can get. Why? Because WHAT WE HAVE NOW is solid fact. Multitouch is all speculation and dream.

Stop using circular logic and just respouting people's points.
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
10 fingers will always be useless no matter how big the phone gets. Heck even the multi-touch monitors with 10 input is useless unless you like to play with MS Paint :p
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
^Please refer to my previous post I edited.

Also, BUGS CAN'T BE FIXED. The dualtouch BUG is there because of a LIMITATION. They work together.

Something that happens contrary to what should happen is a BUG. It might exist but that doesn't mean it can be fixed.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Nah, it's just a joke. People want now-adays so much on a phone lol. It's just my imagination! Haha!
[XPERIA X10 General] GlossGhost:
I'm very disappointed.

http://imageshack.us/f/18/colorsfq.png/

I think we just have to wait for the update and see if it's true.

The fisrt ask was not answered it was about the bootloader.
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Are you dense?

The source is that the the X10 Mini Pro can cross axis without screwing up, but out X10 can't do that without messing up. That is pretty clear evidence we have now.

And there is no info about the X10 digitizer you !?"#!.... That's why I want to know how he can claim the digitizer is better than the one in the Mini Pro.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Pressed by accident on the thanks button lol, but what if you play with the driver? It just like the accelerometer without proper dirvers it won't work properly. also you didnt give any source in that post....
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
Pretty straightforward answer, doesn't leave much to be expected, unfortunately.
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
All he is saying is that:

X10 has better digitizer than X10 mini can not be confirmed at the moment. Period.

He is not talking about anything else now.
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Here the sources for the X10 Mini Pro.

Wow it has moving pictures now you don't need to hurt you head by reading!

And if you got an X10i yourself then try and cross the axis and see how well that works out for you, compared to this video!

[YOUTUBE]JUpUjtG-bDA[/YOUTUBE]
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
As I've said before, we don't know. It could be software or hardware. What we DO know is that as of today, our X10 is only capable of buggy dualtouch. Innocent until proven guilty, I (As do many others) believe that this is the best it can get UNTIL it can be proven otherwise. I am just pitting what we know vs what we don't know, and what we know is that we have buggy dualtouch.

Well, it's also written on the outside that this has dualtouch, so what's your point? Also, you can't write off an argument because 'it doesn't mean something', that's a terrible counter-argument. Sorry, but you're not a good debater.

Is there proof that it was because of Apple's patents? I believe that that is the common consensus but was it MULTITOUCH that was banned or Dualtouch? Do we know EXACTLY what the patent said? Then, it's still speculation.

Jesus, what I have said so far is ALL fact. The X10 has buggy dualtoch: FACT. Sony Ericsson say that's all we will get and dualtouch is hardware limitation: FACT

There have been numerous reports that we have the Clearpad 2000 but no REAL proof that we don't (i.e no one has mentioned another digitzer we could have):FACT

Other phones that have come out at a similar time as the X10 have the dualtouch problem we have:FACT

What YOU have said:

The X10 is fully capable of multitouch:SPECULATION
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
It doesn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The X10 Mini came out in mid 2010, the X10 end 2009. Just because the X10 has a better processor and bigger screen doesn't mean everything is better!
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
And its the x10 mini pro with 3 touches but it shouldn't matter

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Here's some information about the phones digitizer. Its made by cypress. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=848508

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/03/28/xperia-x10-does-not-support-hardware-multitouch/

Ctrl+F 'Clearpad 2000'

Do I need to say more?
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
This is the X10 forum not X10 Mini Pro. We already know the Mini Pro has real unoffial multitouch. But that doesn't say anything about the X10 digitizer.

YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THE DIGITIZER ON THE X10 IS BETTER THAN ON THE X10 MINI PRO.

Just because it's better equipped doesn't mean the digitizer is better!
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
watch how u speak to people on the forum ill you be out of here
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
So clearly its not on Sony Ericssons website. Better hardware gives more capabilities. Which means it is possible our phone can get more than 3 touches

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] chrismorgann:
Written by Sumit Malhotra

This entry was posted on Thursday, November 5th, 2009 at 11:33 am:

* Will it have multi-touch in future updates?

Xperia X10 has a capacitive screen. It does not support multi-touch functionality at launch, but is considered for the future.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
This is called Gingerbread NEWS. Meant for NEWS about the update.

Not 'Possibility of Multitouch in Gingerbread update pointless discussion based completely on rumours and not on facts'
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Does anyone here have found a video demonstration of Facebook Inside Xperia for the Arc (or anyother device) not made by SE? I would like to see it since we get it also! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] rederik79:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/support/phones/xperiax10?cc=in&lc=en
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
Is 16million colours really that big of a deal?

I have an XPlay and when i use the X10 i can see no difference in the colour ouput compared to the XPlay.

Some widgets look a bit smoother on the XPlay screen, but pictures, videos and web browsing is all the same.

The X10 screen is not that bad.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I know it's not very big diffrence :p, but you should try doing some HQ pictures and then zoom and compare. Maybe you'll see diffrence. But beside that, it will use 50% more CPU and also use more RAM. The x10 already has not much RAM so we wouldn't be benefited. Also when getting 16m colours all gradients stuff will be gone I think.
[XPERIA X10 General] muratbaizhanov:
@metcard

it's like PC and Mac, people who possess Mac think they r gods
[XPERIA X10 General] jaykeeley:
seriously, just wait until its released! I'm bored of seeing new posts and coming on here just to see people whinging and moaning
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
It is NOT fact. Name one qualified person to make that statement or any proof.

As far as I have seen everyone has avoided the project saying it is a hardware issue because of the Clearpad digitizer, yet no one can prove it and there are others who say they have seen the digitizer and it isn't Clearpad.
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
I'm not talking about widgets or browsing. I'm talking about gradients. I see them everywhere! Eg. this game (no, usually I don't play games on the phone, but it's so obvious that it's horrible):
[XPERIA X10 General] esimon1980:
I second him
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I haven't seen that ever in that game, only with voicesearch and SE Home Launcher from Arc with widgets. But since using MIUI Froyo with screenhacks I have never seen it anywhere anymore.
[XPERIA X10 General] eureka9092000:
Closed this thread until gingerbread is released..so many useless discussion here..
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
There are 2 internal testers from SE that have confirmed new kernel on there test phones. According to holck.

-----

Translation:

"2.3.3 is coming to X10 shortly. According to my 2 sources on SE they both have new kernel on there test X10 for 2.3.3

Anyway its not mention how the final release will end up with, Do Se choose to update the kernel on X10 when they release 2.3.3 then wifi tethering would be an option in settings"

Sorry that my translation isn't 100% good but hope you understand anyways

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
Well, if you check my sig you'll see that I am using Trip's MIUI. Although it's not the latest ver (I'm sick of always updating ringtones and FB accs in the phonebook all the time), screen hacks were included in this release, too
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Have you asked him about multitouch?
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
No but i can ask him :) bur i cant promisse any answer..
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
I have been thinking about a thing, wouldn't it be good to have

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/06/

And

http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16755

In the First post among with other info so people doesn't need to serach or ask the same Q all the time? like a FAQ??
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Worth a shot....it would be nice to have some confirmed info.
[XPERIA X10 General] phflorian:
take a look at this link: http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/wp/20...-zoom-feature-in-your-xperia™-10-apps-part-2/ and skip to the limitations section. After having a look at the words "not yet" you might be sort of certain that multitouch is coming in the gingerbread update. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Andre Verissimo:
Since you'll ask about MT, could you please try to discover the truth about the 16 M colors?
[XPERIA X10 General] lightyear420:
this should be closed...its nothing but a place for everyone to flame each other. worthless except for maybe 5 posts :/
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
I sort of agree I think it should be a more of a FAQ thread instead of this thread.

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
can't you do this post to a FAQ?

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] gbajwa:
This is what i found from SE Brazil

some more details about multi touch

http://www.sonyericssonpreview.com.br/br/preview/aparelhos/xperia-x10/android-2-3-x10-ganhara-multitouch#comments

Only place where i found that SE is talking

EDIT: Translate using Google translate
[XPERIA X10 General] zdzihu:
This is old news and offtopic, but still quite interesting. Motorola decided to open the bootloaders not only for current devices, but also for 2010 phones.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ockable-in-late-2011-where-carriers-allow-it/

Maybe SE could look into that too :)

Cheers,

z
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
Thanks for the info, I didn't know! :)

It seems that manufacturers are finally moving towards freedom for their users! That is great!

But even if SE unlocks the X10 bootloader, I will never forget the efforts that have been made here by members like you. ;)

I really mean it. So many things were done despite the so many limitations by SE.

Xperia X10i via Tapatalk
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
SE will unlock the bootloader for X10 I have it confirmed by a SE worker and holck has got it confirmed also from his sources ;)

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] Zlappy:
You and holck are nothing but pure <3, have you gotten any info on a probable month/quarter? :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Stephen3672:
Im fedup of waiting on android 2.3 for x10
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
Who cares about millions of colours and multi touch. I just want to hear people on the other end!
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Go buy a decent flip phone
[XPERIA X10 General] GlossGhost:
Maybe they are going to bring us surprise.

We can't expect nothing untill the release of the update.

But can we expect something amazing from Sony Ericsson? I believe not.
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
If it's not amazing that after 1 year this phone still gets frequent updates (many minor and 2 major ones) and it keeps being enhanced according to what users ask for (a.k.a dual touch, GB) and even though the 2011 Xperia line-up is launched, the X10 is still treated like a flagship phone,

then yes, please do hold an awfully tiny basket... You are bound to be very disappointed. :D

I've had my share of smartphones from different manufacturers the past years, and I believe it matters when I say that SE is far from perfect,

but at least they're trying and it turns out that they do listen.

(Maybe you never owned a Nokia N97... You would know what I'm talking about!!)

All in all, come to think of it, we did in fact get everything we asked for and the X10 was their first attempt at Android. So... :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I Loll'd :p!

Xperia84, do you think that the 20th of June will be the day we will get the update?! I really hope so!

Btw I want to bump this:

Does anyone here have found a video of Facebook Inside Xperia demonstration not made by SE on YouTube or any other place? I can't seem to find one lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
This is from SE for anyone who hasn't seen it:

[YOUTUBE]_OjP4bPDBcY[/YOUTUBE]

I can't find anything else either!
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
I'm using it on my Arc, pm me if you have any question about it
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I actually don't have questions about it because I don't know how it works. :( But I would love to see a demonstration :)!

@Immortal, I've already seen that video but I haven't learned anything about Facebook in Xperia from it. Unless that Android Gallery with Facebook pics, that's it :p.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
No i don´t think it will be realesed the 20th but i still belive that it will start to roll out before july start but that is IMO and what i have heard, but nothing confirmed so dont shoot me if it rolls out in begging of july
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Like I am going to shoot :p I have got patience to wait for a bug-free GB firmware :)!
[XPERIA X10 General] jaykeeley:
literally the only thing worth reading for about 15 pages!
[XPERIA X10 General] lifty95:
Another Info :

In ARC Forums a SE Developer said that fps will NOT be uncapped for the X10!

www.faq4mobiles.de/cms/attachments/114632d1301057844-x10-gingerbread-low-res.jpgwww.handy-tests.net/wp-content/uploads/Xperia-X10-Gingerbread-250x250.jpg

Sent from my sweet rachael
[XPERIA X10 General] Mayazcherquoi:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/X10iR301.xml

Look at the revision date: 20110223 (23/02/2011), it could change.

I'm not entirely familiar with this document, but wouldn't <prf:OSVersion>2.3</prf:OSVersion> also show the minor version of the OS as-well (2.3.3)? :S

Looking at the Xperia Arc's UAProf document ( http://wap.sonyericsson.com/UAprof/LT15iR301.xml ), it appears that I was incorrect on the aforementioned. However, we do know that the Arc also supports 16 million colours (24-bits per pixel), yet, within their UAProf document it states only 65 thousand colours (16-bits per pixel).
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Good find, so we still have hope :)
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
I wonder if this update will sort out the issue with the X10'S melting. Seriously how does Bluetooth use more energy than wifi?

And the radio is chewing thy juice and burning up alot. It's really not normal.

Its winter ambient tempreture is 18*C and my phone is reading 47*c... that is abnormal for most devices like this. If I compare my friends sgs.his phone is running cool. =\