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[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
i think you need usb hosting mode to talk to the touchscreen.

kernel dev needed

btw didn't you say (in my thread) some days ago that you think honeycomb is better(the development) than for cm7 while i laughed about that back then i am wondering what changed your mind from statements like the ones u put up in my thread to an open development for cm7

on a different note get a kernel dev without one there is no way to know where to start it is the fundament for everything.

if you have a team and some support with good devs i would be glad to join i will look for people myself
[Gen8 Android Development] compyy:
Lennb,

did you check:

http://www.archos.com/support/download/firm_dev/archos-gen8-openembedded.tar.gz

It has some scripts and kernel modules.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Forget it the support of archoe is crap:D

Never response:(

Thank you!:)

i'll check it soon;)
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
I may have missed something but... isn't the driver into the kernel? 'cause we have archos kernel src (at least I have some on my hardrive from which I got a working kernel, running nicely on my A70S/uruk)

The thing is to port it to a more recent kernel like the one used in CM7. And because we don't have HC sources, forget about it :)

Sent from my HTC Desire with DATA2SD :)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Yes, i think you're right;)

Great! Could we work with this Kernel?:)

Yep,ive understand it:D

I've hope into 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich):)

I think they'll release this source code again:)
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Well yes. It's basically like sauron's 1.1b3 kernel. I've iust downloaded sources and build the kernel on my PC. No magic here. You can try to play with sauron's kernel, it's the same.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Could you please introduce me in building kernels? Do i do that over terminal or a programm?

(I've a Ubuntu 10.04 Pc:))

I really want to start with these things:)
[Gen8 Android Development] compyy:
Then We need to start with something like (CM7(UrukDroidKernel))

Is it possible to integrate Urukdroid 1.1b3 Kernel into CM7 with all stock drivers ?
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Principial yes:D But we have to change a bit in kernel and drivers;)
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
so how are you coming to this idea? have you tested his changes to the archos kernel with cm7 or are you just guessing?
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I'm just guessing;)

It would be pretty strange,if everything works without changes:D
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
i would guess you need to rework huge parts of the kernel and reimplement the changes from urukdroid if they will ever be mainline compatible...
[Gen8 Android Development] compyy:
So we are still waiting for someone to jump in and provide us some hope that it is possible. :o
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Exactly:D:)
[Gen8 Android Development] LeoNg628:
Hi Lennb, any advancement of this?

I'm looking for some tools/guide that help the CM7 port..

like this:

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Howto:_Build_a_Kernel_Port

or using kitchen to cook rom:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=633246

Or there are anythings we can learn?

Leo
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Okey,

Thanks for your links;)

But im not a developer..

We really need one guy or more who really can develop!

Until that, this project dont work:mad:
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Compiling sources is not the main issue. I've compiled many kernels for my Desire or my a70S. But porting all drivers to the kernel are more difficult and beyond my skills and way too much time consuming.
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
The first thing we have to do is a hardware research

the archos gen8 devices have a

First

Processor: Arm cortex-A8 <-- same as galaxy s, and nexus s

Screen: <--- ?

Then

Touchscreen: <--- ?

Later

Camera: <--- ?

Camera A43: <--- ?

WiFi: <--- ?

Sound: <--- ?

Software buttons

I think we should first make the processor and the screen working, then we are able to debug the device using adb

And we are able to view debug codes on archos
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
the archos has no hummingbird afaik. i think the htc evo has the most simalirities (beside the screen)

btw this arm cortex a8 does not specify a manufacture it is a design the prozessors could still be very different-> (hummingbird ->snapdragon)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
First thanks for you interest:)

The screen is a United Usb Win7 Touchscreen;)

I think theres no other android device out there with this:D:mad:

But i've found instructions how to compile android drivers for these!:):D

http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-android-howto.html

Read it;)

You think you could to it?
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Okey, thanks for your informations;):)

But what kind of processor we have?

Should i test with an app? I think setcpu is able to detect:D
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
i thought about the connection and i believe you need usb host modus to drive this screen.

if i have some time i will try to setup a kernel build script but i think it will lead to nothing
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Thank you!

Anyway:D, its a start:)

I look at SetCpu:

Processor: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)

Cpu Implementer: 0x41

Cpu Architecture: 7

Cpu Variant: 3

Cpu Part: 0xc08

Cpu Revision: 2

Does this help?:):D
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
Processor: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)

Screen: <--- ?

Touchscreen: United Usb Win7

Camera: <--- ?

Camera A43: <--- ?

WiFi: <--- ?

Sound: <--- ?

Software buttons

Is the ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) the same as the nexus s?
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
ok again arm 8 (this armv7 rev 2 is this) does not specify a prozessor just a type of cpus there are major differences between a8 prozessors the nexus s cpu gpu combo wipes the floor with the archos a8 prozessor.
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
it is a ti omap 3630 afaik so nah this stuff does not help it just says it is an a8 ;-)

well htc evo is not that similar the droid x is more similar
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I dont know, but i've just found this site on facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/notes/ausdroid/comparison-xperia-x10-desire-nexus-one/105809352798044

These 3 Android Devices (X10/Desire/Nexus One) have the ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l):)

But they've other numbers of "BogoMIPS":confused:

they've all about 660 but we've got 996:confused:

Anybody knows what this is?

I think the best would be if we look first at the desire:

We've also got the same kernel!:)

(Look at the linked page;))
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
No, I wanna know with of the devices of cyanongenmod have a comparable processor so we can use that driver

It's very hard because many phones have a different processor and a different version

The driver of the other phone has to for the exactly same processor as archos
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
Processor: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) <-- HTC Desire (Telstra)

Screen: <--- ?

Touchscreen: United Usb Win7

Camera: <--- ?

Camera A43: <--- ?

WiFi: <--- ?

Sound: <--- ?

Software buttons

Yes this could be it :)

And this phone has cnm

But what screen do we have?

And how do I download cnm via git?
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
no every modern smartphone has an arm a8 prozessor

the desire has a snapdragon qsd8250
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
Yes, and what about the galaxy s
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
This is it I think OMAP3640-1000

http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=42528&start=40
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
it has a freaking arm a8 too it is a architecture the hummingbird is an arm a8
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I think i found a device with the OMAP:)

The Motorola Droid2:D

See here:

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...hands-on-video-benchmarks-and-specifications/

Is this information right?
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
yeah and like i wrote at the start of this page the droid x....
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Oh sorry about that!:D

okey, can you say me if the droid2 has exactly the same processor as our gen8?:)
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
yeah i am pretty confident but sure well i would have to google
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Okey, these are good news:)

I just googled and saw that there isn't cyanogenmod for the Droid X/2 :mad:

But i saw that the developers stuck at the Recovery, so the cpu isnt a problem:)

(We don't need recovery:))

I'll google about the cpu drivers now...:D

(Google ist dein Freund;))
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
You can compile it for sholes

and the Motorola Droid 2 is a shole I think :)
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
yeah sync the repo build flash and perhaps it will even power up again
[Gen8 Android Development] dsimages:
These are processor speeds...
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Oh thanks:);)

I hope the guys from the other CM Dev thread could joyn us here soon:)
[Gen8 Android Development] dsimages:
you should use an app from the market called, android system info, it will give you useful info about your device.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I've found this too, but it also doesnt says that we've the OMAP Processor, no detaild infos, unfortunality:o
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
what you want to know ? more hardware specs
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Exactly!:):D
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
why? read the kernel drivers and find out.

good training just the specs will not help
[Gen8 Android Development] dsimages:
well, for anyone wanting to jump in feet first, the link below should get you started.

Im assuming that we could use urukdroids kernel or archos kernel in place of the Hero kernel in the post.

I done exactly know what this would look like in the editor so I dont know if we could edit a CM kernel and replace the parts needed for our device. (not sure if it even works this way).

According to the guy that ported honeycomb to his gtab it is?

its a start I guess.

Here is the link, Kernel Building

Im a photographer/photo editor, not really into coding. Otherwise I would be all over this.
[Gen8 Android Development] eagleofdeath13:
HC will not be possible, that's true, but only because Google will never release the source for it ^^
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
@arobase40 hc doesn't use a lot more ram than froyo, does it?
[Gen8 Android Development] marcusmarcus:
I think you are thinking of system storage use not RAM use.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Please stop this contra-productivy posts, guys!;):p

You don't help:p
[Gen8 Android Development] marcusmarcus:
It's basically the partition of the internal flash drive that the Android OS is installed on on other apps.
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
i think he meant ram i think honeycom needs a lot of ram and you will have almost no ram left for open apps

so lennb have you tried to flash a sauron kernel and an cm7 image?
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Thank you for put this thread into his normal point;):D

Unfortunality not, i dont know how! I have much User experience but nearly nothing about kernel, binaries and so knowledge:( i'll read me intothis from the link:)

Or do you know a good german instruction?
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
We'll have:);)
[Gen8 Android Development] dsimages:
point me to a cm7 file that you think would be suitable and a kernel and I will flash it.
[Gen8 Android Development] dlamber7:
The motorola cliq 2 (motorola begonia) also uses the same chipset as your archos tablet. The TI OMAP 3620. There is currently no development that i can see for this device. I have one myself and would love to do what you guys are doing, for my device. If i get something together that may be of assistance to you folks, ill let you know.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I think we could use an Urukdroid Kernel.

A guy, i forgot his name, already compiled a cm7 file, but he says:

You can read about this here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1100341&page=2
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
i don't think that will work afaik you need yaffs support and yaffs partitions.

i doubt you could get it runnimg without development work.

in end of june the new archos 9 devices will be presented
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
Partition types are set in the initramfs, and are really only important to the kernel. Once the initial environment is set up in the kernel, Dalvik accesses any partition in the same manner.

I have no time right now, but someone just needs to dump the img onto some ext4 partitions and edit the init mounts to -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk2p0 and -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk2p1. Should take 15 minutes, and it'll at least show how close it is to running.

You can add a line to the system init that starts logcat dumping to a file on the sdcard, so if you can't get into the launcher, or even into ADB, you can still pull the error messages.
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Here is what to play with.

I did an unyaffs on CM7 files, and tarred the entire thing. It can now easily be extracted on any type of partition (like our EXT4).

good luck with the ramdisk :)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Hi All!

I want to help (im the thread poster:D), but like you guys should know i dont have developement experience but much user experience:)

How can i start into this?

Or could i do anything little, f.e. testing or so?

Greetz & Thankz

Lenn:)
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
stop saying you have a lot of user experience :-) show it...

how about building saurons rom from source and get it running just to get a feeling for the invironment
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
How?:p:D:)

Okey, but is there an option to build kernels/roms on windows?

I really dont want to use linux:D
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
That's a very bad start! :p
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
looooool close this topic
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
WOW, calm down!:D;)

I know its but...^^ Okey:D

Do i have to install ubuntu or can i use a livecd?:)

I've ubuntu 10.04, its okey?:):D
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
64bit is important

live cd is ok but just install it that is easier then prepare the machine and synch the repo
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Why 64 bit?:D I dont buy a new pc:D:D

could you explain me how to do that?:);)

Or is there an german (or english) how to about starting?
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
how to buy a new pc?

you don't have a 64bit capable cpu?!? the build needs a lot of power you will need a highly capable buildmachine or it will take multible hours and you will need to build a lot
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Yeep, exactly:mad::D Oh really? Dammed!:mad: Really multible hours?:(
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
i sometimes build cm7 on my core 2duo extreme mobile with 4gb ram and a fast ssd and it takes around 25-30min.

without the ssd and a fast hdd over 40mins so take a guess

it is not possible to build with a 32bit system.
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
The build uses ia32lib, which is an x86 library. I have personally tested build times in 32 and 64 bit linux environments and there is no difference.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Okey, should i try or can i forgot developement?:(
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
i builded cm7 for the sgs and it didn't work on 32bit codeworkx stated i would need 64bit
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
We've been around here for a while, and I know you have the energy for it, but it is very hard to get started. I've managed to make some custom kernels and frameworks, but I don't have the energy or patience to move into the entire system, and it gets alot harder there.

You have to use linux, you have to do everything in terminal, and you will have to redo things over and over and over to get it to work, and you won't really know why it doesn't in the first place.

I'm getting too old and cranky to do it, but you should at least try. Follow the guides chulri made to set up your custom building environment:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=891056

Then read up on how android works, how the dalvik application layer runs on top of it, etc. Basically, if you can get the linux kernel to work with all the hardware, then the dalvik layer will run on top of it with no trouble. Read up on the Kubuntu/Ubuntu threads to see how they are compiling for the hardware, and read up on the early threads here, before $auron started working on Uruk.

We all started from scratch unsquashing the file system and rebuilding back in October-December. $auron seemed to have more time and energy than the rest of us, so I at least have been glad to let him take up the slack, but you really should at least give it a shot, considering how involved you always are.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Wow, thanks for your compliments:D

Okey, i'll try it tomorrow, but i think i'll have questions then, i post them here:)

Thanks for your tips;)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Okey, back to the topic:D

I've found the driver source for the DroidX:) (for the cpu;))

Well,.. not i found it, another member from a thread created by me, i posted anywhere above:D

Anyway.. we've 3 different driver packages:

Motorola Droid-X 2.3.340 OSS Source Available - The new Android 2.3.340 Source (i think the firmware version are from motorola)

Droid-X 2.3.15 Froyo Source Available - The old Android 2.3.15 Source (I think the same as above:D)

DROID X 1.13.5.10 Source Available - Maybe the initial release:)

What do you guys think?;)

__

EDIT

Oh sorry i forgot to post the link :D

here you are:https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/sfmain/do/viewProject/projects.droidx
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
Ok, I'm gonna write the drivers

but there are a few things I need

archos source [best version]

gingerbread [2.3.4 source]

cyanogenmod source (7.0.3) for sholes

honeycomb 3.1 rootimg dump from the android sdk
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
I made a logo for a gingerbread rom for archos

here it is:
[Gen8 Android Development] compyy:
Most of the things can be downloaded from here:

http://developer.android.com/index.html
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
1) You mean the git source?:)

You can find the buildroots here http://gitorious.org/archos-buildroots

And you can find the gpl sources here http://gitorious.org/archos

2) You can download this from http://source.android.com

3) You can download this from https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...tree/4c44b517cd840021991f420f38afacd1875ff4dd

4) Dont know what a rooting dump is...:D Could you explain?

But you should get this from http://www.developer.android.com

:)

Your Logo is fantastic!;)

If you need any help, i'll be there!
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
I'm a game developer and I made DS Game Maker Plus

This looks a lot harder

So I'm gonna wait for gen9:)
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
great news

watch this

motorola droid x with cyanogenmod

http://phandroid.com/2011/06/13/des...nmod-7-running-on-the-motorola-droid-x-video/
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Thats really cool!:) but unfortunality, it doesnt help us..:(
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Interesting video b/c he managed to get it running with a locked bootloader. Our situation is better because we can change the kernel!

Sounds promising.
[Gen8 Android Development] Mr. Clown:
Did some cleanup here,

Can you leave these arguments and stay on topic. My patience has limits. I cleaned this and the other thread in general since the 3 same persons are leading this argument.

Please stop this and move on. Thanks.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Thanks Clown:)
[Gen8 Android Development] Harfainx:
Alright, would you two just knock it off already. Your constant posts in different threads isn't helping anything or anyone.

Lennb, you can be rude sometimes, and it appears that you seem to that somehow you own the threads that you start... newsflash, it's a public forum.

Aro, you're complaining about how young Lennb is, but you are the one acting like a child. Grow up and stop trying to put someone down because they are younger than you. You're making yourself look bad.

There, now please, just ignore each other, and stop ruining this forum with your constant childish quibbling.
[Gen8 Android Development] dtr145r:
yea... i dont think cyanogen for gen 8 is getting anywhere. im unsubscribing this.

blahhh
[Gen8 Android Development] Mr. Clown:
Didn't I told you the 2 of you to stop these kind of arguments (Lennb and Arobase). I don't wan't to receive another report about the 2 of you. Consider this my last warning.
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
Look at this:

http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/25722-cyanogenmod-7-for-the-droid-x-v710-rc0-beta1-15-june-2011/

Those are the files we need (for the cpu)

Can anybody try to put these files on his device via adb to see what happens?

If it starts up without reloading the whole time, it means that it worked?
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
Doesn't really work like that mate. That beta build would still need to have all the rest of the archos drivers merged with it, especially the touchscreen and wifi, then build a 2.6.32 kernel for our device, then make the init and initramfs from scratch, and flash through sde. If I could do it, I would, but I don't have the time or experience.

Somebody just bought the Bodhi Linux guy a Gen8 tablet to develop Bodhi for us. If someone would do the same thing for a CM7 developer, they'd probably be done in a week. But alas, I have bills to pay, so Urukdroid will have to be enough for me.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
The touchscreen, i have found a site with a how to compile drivers for our touchscreen:)(i posted it somewhere before:D)

There was/is a bounty thread for giving some money for developement of cyanogen, i think they were around 60 bucks:D we'll need 180 :D so we "just need" 20 peoples who spend 6 bucks...:D
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
well you linked smth about screens and kernels in general....

it was 105$ bucks btw.

sent from my droid (not the one you are looking for)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
yep, look at this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13920876&postcount=1 does this helps?:);)

Ohh... even better!:D:)
[Gen8 Android Development] Unmensch:
We've already got all the drivers we need from archos. We don't need to collect drivers from different parts of the web. The problem is rather to build a working kernel and fuse it with cyanogen or build our own cyanogen distribution.
[Gen8 Android Development] Diablo67:
If you guys need testers,im here for ya,just pm me.
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
if cm would be mount everest and we would want to climb it we would still be on the airport waiting for our flight to nepal....

sent from my droid (not the one you are looking for)
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
Agreed. The problem is that we have alot of linux guys, myself included, who can build kernels. What we need is a distro expert who has a better grasp of the libraries, binaries, init, etc. to build the distribution itself. I wish I had the time and energy to learn the rest, but I'm getting pretty old now anyways, I have to forget things to learn new ones. ;)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Thats it...

We do need an Android guy:) We've very good Linux guys, but thats unfortunality not enough..

Maybe, buying a archos tablet for an android guy, will be the only and last option...

i would give 10 dollars:)
[Gen8 Android Development] compyy:
So, we have Archos G9 Tablet now with Honeycomb 3.1 ;)
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Yep. All we need is the money to buy one and HC compatible apps ;)
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
This threads is about CyanogenMod, not about HC :rolleyes: Please stay ontopic
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Really? Honestly, I haven't read a lot of stuff about CM dev here...
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
several pages about kernel stuff and such :rolleyes:
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Unfortunality, thats true...

But i still think there is a chance of getting HC when source code is released:)
[Gen8 Android Development] eagleofdeath13:
HC source will never be released, the next sources released will be the Ice Cream Sandwich ones ^^
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
From my understandig, we get the HC source code when 4.0 is released...

Mhm.. anyway : we have to wait:D