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[Atrix 4G Android Development] zexbig:
OK guy's I think that we need to support dev's, tenfar developed currently only method with clockwork to flash custom pseudo rom's for atrix and he did that without even having atrix.

If we want to have custom recovery we need to show and support this projects.

Price for Atrix in china is around 750$ and since we all already paid hefty sum

for our locked phones I does not make big difference to give few $ to support dev's who are trying really hard to give us full access to our phones.

So goal is the following

1. Raise 750$ by donating tenfar for his atrix.

2. Extend current work to adopt 2init bootloader method for Atrix

3. Have ability to flash custom kernels :)

So to speed things up here is my contribution.

100$ to tenfar paypal account (Confirmation number: 0DT07904N51875837.)

Who is next ?

P.S. Every $ counts.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ikenley:
Tenfar, I just donated $50USD.

I believe in this work and want you to do the best you can, please make sure to notify the community of how much money you have for the cause so we know how much more you need.

I still reserve $150 AUD for the first person to load a custom Kernel so this means I will have contributed close to $200 for this.

Please let us know what you need and what else can help us to free our phones.

Cheers,

Irwin
[Atrix 4G Android Development] zexbig:
Irvin You are the man ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] CaelanT:
$30 USD from me, Confirmation number: 7MY394202T758501V.

That's in addition to $20 I sent him a couple of weeks ago! :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Vangelis13:
Hi there,

Will contribute towards an Atrix for Tenfar, however: why don't we buy it in the US at an AT&T store, off contract & then ship it to him? Much cheaper, phone can be sim-unlocked quite easily. A moderator from the US can perhaps take the task?

Just a thought. I'll contribute either way.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ikenley:
If you know of me outside of XDA, you know what I'm trying to achieve. Look at my signature if you're not sure what my non-dev contributions are.

I believe everyone has the ability to help no matter what their skill set.

Agreed!

Tenfar, can you organise to get yourself the AT&T version of the device, recruit the services of one of the contributors to help you if needed.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] zexbig:
Regarding shipping from US to china there are significant problems which involve domestic custom office and it can delay significantly whole process, so I recommend that we skip that for now.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] zexbig:
Irvin,

I'm well aware of Your good work, and I know that motorola internally is also aware of this :)

Just keep up with great job!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cocchiararo:
ah, yes, NFC is a 2.3.3+ thing i had forgotten about... "good" thing the Atrix does not have it, so one less thing to worry about not having if we can't get UNSIGNED kernels.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] n1ckr0th:
i check this thread before i brush my teeth in the morning, anybody else the same way?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Me. I really wana see some awesome progress soon.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the2dcour:
I put on a condom before replying in this thread, that way I avoid AIDS.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] garekinokami:
I'm no mod, but the KEXEC thread by Kholk was cleaned up due to off-topic comments. I think we should try to be patient and put our questions in the Q/A section.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the2dcour:
I agree, I wish we had mods with nothing better to do than clean up the inane banter in these threads, I'd get 2-3 more hours o sleep at night. (yes that includes my inane, trolling banter too)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jsnolasco:
LOL..me too!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jiggytom:
This is the info from mindphaze: Not sure exactly what the problem is, but when trying to read the framebuffer (/dev/graphics/fb0) directly I would get an error. Google provides /system/bin/fbread that grabs the framebuffer so it wasn't anything complicated to just call that to get the buffer.

Got the info from reading the tegra source code.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] SS2006:
Can't wait for gbread :)

Imagine cyanogen mod on this bad boy
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cocchiararo:
isn't anyone concerned that having a non-moto OS would remove the webtop/dock utilities ? :P
[Atrix 4G Android Development] tsouza:
Fingerprint scanner, yes. Webtop? Not so much, would be nice to keep it though....
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Yaotl:
Having a fully custom rom (i.e. sans motoblur) would trump webtop for me.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] DarkRyoushii:
my opinion exactly.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] zexbig:
They are stored on separate partition called /osh so we can leave them there.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mrnicotra:
Does anybody know if Tenfar got his Atrix?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Wond3r:
Use a different launcher?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Yaotl:
a launcher doesn't replace contacts and phone dialer.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] garekinokami:
No. It's really not the same as having a ROM without the crap Samsung/HTC/Motorola/Etc add in. I don't need the bloat and the phone would do better without it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cocchiararo:
ah, i had forgotten about the fingerprint scanner :(

i knew the "linux" OS is stored in a different partition, what i don't know is if stock android would be able to use it.

Fingerprint scanner would be a nice touch too.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Wond3r:
Use GoContacts, it includes a dialer as well.

There is too much fuss over motoBLur when it can be easily done without. You wouldnt even be able to tell my phone has motoblur on it anymore.

As far as bloatware - I agree, the phone could do without it
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Yaotl:
except it isn't done without. even if you use other applications to replicate functionality, they all still run in the background.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lsxrx7:
freeze them with Ti backup
[Atrix 4G Android Development] hegemytouch:
+1 one of the reasons I got this phone is for finger scanner...I don't care what so ever about webtop...but if we do get a flawless cm7 rom running smooth...I can do without the finger print scanner
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nitrox1:
Full working cm7 with a nice havs .38.7 OC'd kernel, and cm tweaked full ubuntu lite, or honeycomb with extra Linux functionality with phone apps, as webtop, pure bliss.

Good luck guys.

Desire is the source of all suffering.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Wond3r:
as `lsxrx7 ` said, use titanium backup and freeze it .

MotoBlur is not running on my device.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nitrox1:
Think you should be able to use easy freezy from market too, £0.99

Desire is the source of all suffering.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sagerox:
Personally I use webtop mod every day and the finger print scanner, so I would prefer to keep them. Also I'm not a fan of cm7, I have it running on my nook color along with honey comb. The only reason I keep cm 7 on there is for flash.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] tykazowsky:
ecstatic1!!

this makes my heart happy to see this. i just read the entire thread. <3

does anyone have a theoretical time frame for any of this (as in days, weeks, months?)

2ndinit:

kexec:

and motorolas GB OTA:

thanks, just curious if any is right around the corner or nowhere near ready.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] barry99705:
Yep, when it's done. :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PixoNova:
Xda follows the same rules as cyanogen. You don't ask for ETAs

Swyped from my Motorola Atrix 4g using XDA Premium App
[Atrix 4G Android Development] thebeardedchild:
My thoughts in bold above
[Atrix 4G Android Development] CC Lemon:
I think people need to realize that it's hard to give a time frame for these projects because they don't have a completely understood process to follow. The entire project might run into multiple failed attempts and require many additional steps to accomplish. It could be something that works out on the first few attempts.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dicksteele:
And people have lives .......
[Atrix 4G Android Development] tykazowsky:
Sorry. Was just wondering out of excitement. I completely understand ... I didn't if it was like *almost* ready or there was lots left I don't understand much of developing. But I fully support and am glad tenfar has an Atrix. :)

Keep up the good work!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ultra Droid:
The talented people who are members of this forum never cease to amaze me with their skills. They are a tremendous asset to the entire android community, and I sincerely appreciate all of their hard work and skill.

Thank you guys - you're the BEST!

-Mike
[Atrix 4G Android Development] s1mpd1ddy:
just wanted to bump this topic to the top!

Eagerly waiting an update --- I have full confidence the devs we have can solve this solution... and people say we have a poor dev community!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joe ferreira:
Has tenfar actually received his atrix yet?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jimmer411:
Why are we getting all the updates from zebig instead of tenfar? Why didn't tenfar organize the gathering of donations for the phone?

Maybe im missing something but it was fishy enough to stop my donation.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] garekinokami:
Kholk barely replies either - I'm assuming they're busy with their own lives, plus developing these things isn't any easy task - would you rather him take the time to look through the nonsensical posts and reply each and every time?

I'm going to donate $50 dollars. What's $50 in the grand scheme of things? If you donate less, like $25 dollars, how does that really affect you?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lurchbyrep:
Direct posts from Tenfar in this thread can be found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13976880&postcount=8

and here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14062632&postcount=160

As has been said, it is true that devs, when so busy as this, tend to post little until they have something substantial to say. Information is very often vented through an intermediary with whom they have contact, though I do not know by what medium zexbig and Tenfar are communicating. This would be good information to have.

Regarding Tenfar's getting his Atrix, I am not sure if these screenshots, http://cookedroms.com/index.html/_/android/first-screenshots-of-running-cwm-on-atrix-trough-new-tenf-r138, are Tenfar's by implication, or if zexbig is running Tenfar's new CWM, or if it is someone else. Again, this would be good information to have.

However, anyone who has ever sold on eBay can tell you that it takes several days even for an electronic debit from PayPal to be effectual. Not to mention that some people do not send money in the quickest way sometimes (a credit card, for instance, can take several days to clear). Furthermore, I do not know how quickly one is able to procure an Atrix in China. Do they sell them at places like a local Best Buy, or does one have to order them online? From where do they come and what is their necessary transit time?

All of this is to point out that his getting the Atrix might take more than just a couple of days, by necessity. As forum members, and especially for those donating, I think an update on these questions would be only becoming to the decorum here prompted. On the other hand, I think calmness, respect, and benefit-of-doubt is the proper abode of the inquirer over such things.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] CaelanT:
Tenfar was using his friends Atrix as he said in his CWM thread, so the screens could be from that phone.

I was glad to donate so Tenfar can have his own Atrix, and in fact was the one who brought up and quoted a previous thread by someone else at the beginning of this thread in which they had suggested buying devs a phone so they could work on the Atrix.

I did not donate solely so Tenfar can buy an Atrix, but also so he gets a small reward for the work he has done thus far. Without him, who was going to give us CWM so we could flash all these great P_ROM's others have been working on??? I would however like to know that Tenfar has received, or when he does in fact receive, his shiny new Atrix.

I don't believe we were "scammed". Just that things take time as was mentioned..........people have real lives.............and people are hard at work trying to break the code for us! Tenfar has already proven himself with previous work which he didn't even have to do!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jimmer411:
The 2 posts by tenfar don't mention anything about the donations or even the plan to buy an artix.

My concern isn't that people are getting scammed. Tenfar deserves donations for his hard work. My concern is that donations were asked for specifically to purchase a phone to speed up development without consent or verification by Tenfar.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] s1mpd1ddy:
agreed, did he even acknowledge the donations?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] s0dhi:
The donation link in the OP and the one in tenfar's signature match.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sifon187:
I was not really just directing this to you, it was to all the "is there an update" post. No Offense :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jimmer411:
You completely missed my point.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] s0dhi:
Sorry, you're right. I misread your post as, My concern is that people are getting scammed.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mr. Clown:
Thread cleanup, back on topic please.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] zexbig:
this thread will be cleaned up but before that I would like to clarify some things to s0dhi and all other who are "concerned".

First of all I started this thread and my idea was to help community to develop way to overcome motorola bootloader issues.

Since tenfar was only person until now who actually made progress I contacted him and ask for help. Rest of the story You can read in this thread.

To clarify things I will ask tenfar to

1) confirm that he got donations

2) that screenshots which are published are genuine.

Over and out.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] s0dhi:
zexbig, you have it all wrong. :( You quoted a post in which I apologized to another member for misreading his post as "thinking people were getting scammed". Please read post 224, 226, 227.

I am not "concerned"; quite the opposite. I still have faith in people and the work being done. That said, I'll sit back and watch.

EDIT: got a PM from zexbig, cleared things up. He is doing a much needed Press Secretary role - go easy on him and the devs, folks.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
This "concerning" ppl are having may just jeopardize this project. If tenwar decides to stop working on this because of these concerns then were all stuffed until motorola released unlocked bootloaders

sent from atrix 4g
[Atrix 4G Android Development] anomaly460:
Starting this thread with more than one purpose (especially when one of them regarded the bootloader) was a train wreck waiting to happen. The donations should be out of respect for someones work, not for something in return...this is probably why some feel scammed. Tenfar already got his Atrix (or the money at least)...so if I were a mod I'd close this thread and let Zexbig or Tenfar open a new one when then there's something major to report.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Vangelis13:
Agree!

(From someone that donated..)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] s1mpd1ddy:
I think a lot of people donated for the cause, which was stated at the beginning of this post, for Tenfar to get his own personal Atrix to use for DEV and helping solve the bootloader issue.

I don't think it's out of line for people to wonder if he's gotten the Atrix yet, or has started the process of getting it, or even received the money yet? (not sure how paypal works in China, if money takes longer to transfer there).

Tenfar received a lot of money in a short amount of time, the least he can do is acknowledge receipt of the money, and acknowledge that he's going to get the Atrix (if he hasn't already).
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lurchbyrep:
So that everyone is aware, when Mr. Clown posted about a cleanup, he meant that he had already cleaned it up, and you will notice it had nothing at all to do with the donations inquiry. From my perspective, those questions are perfectly on topic (see OP). That being said, communal respect must continue to be our staple.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] binary110:
I think its obvious he recieved it, given this article that came out may 22, (just after the last update)

http://cookedroms.com/index.html/_/...-of-running-cwm-on-atrix-trough-new-tenf-r138

Looks like an atrix to me...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jimmer411:
Nobody doubts that the donations went to him. You made it very clear the intentions of this thread was to gather money to buy him a phone, not donate and hope he buys a phone.

This thread should have been started by tenfar, not you.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Somewhat agree...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] CaelanT:
Tenfar already had access to an Atrix..........his friends, so these pics could be from that phone, and he still hasn't received his very own Atrix for whatever reason! He stated this in his CWM thread. He just didn't have one of his own, and so risked f**king up his friends phone whenever he tried anything. This is why he really needs his own, so he can be more diligent, and not mess with someone elses phone.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] zexbig:
Somebody has to be the first and since nobody else didn't start I had to do it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mr. Clown:
zexbig, I think you misunderstood my last post since I was referring to offtopic posts cleanup in the thread, having nothing to do with your thread or the content of it.

You are right, if people have already agreed and put some $$ to this atrix bootloader crack bounty, they should know that this can or may not happen. Having this, neither the OP nor XDA are liable to provide any refund to anyone at end if the outcomes are negative.

In other words, we (mods) don't want posts or reports stating "Hey, I provided funding for the project and since it didn't work I want my money back".

All members should know this, read and be aware of everything related to the bounty or where your money is going, before sending a donation or participating in this or any other bounties in the site.

Thanks.

Cheers,
[Atrix 4G Android Development] :
Valid point. That did happen.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
I just don't get it though. So kholk is giving you updates and you are putting the updates on this thread? Why doesn't kholk just do that?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ChongoDroid:
I'm guessing he's busy?

Sent from my Googletron
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sifon187:
Everbody wants it done now. Only six days and people are accusing tenfar of running with the money.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sentinel79:
Those who are butt-hurt over this could probably place a dispute through PayPal but it seems like 20 dollars is a small price to pay for what they've accomplished so far.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cocchiararo:
can you really disput on a DONATION ? :/
[Atrix 4G Android Development] theknub:
This isn't kholk. IT is Tenfar
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rozzco:
Like SEAL boot camp busy? A "hey guys I'm still alive" would be nice.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] chria01:
I haven't had an atrix long but I understand how people who have been waiting long are impatient.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sifon187:
Like many people on this board, he may have a real life outside his computer and phone. Its 8:30am Friday morning in china now, maybe he can find the time to come on, maybe not. Just be patient.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bearsfan172:
Everyone in this thread really needs to calm down. Look at tenfars post history, he often goes a month without posting. He simply doesn't post very often. Let's please not get all antsy because he hasn't posted on this thread in 6 days, but instead simply sent screenshots of his progress. No one here is being scammed, you sent money to tenfar, a respected dev. Hopefully he will make the progress you expected when you sent the donation, but if he doesn't, he doesn't. That's why its a donation. That's how XDA works, you send donations for work you like or in hope that something gets done. It's a motion of gratitude towards a dev, not money spent in expectation of something in return.

It is clear to me that zexbig is in close contact with tenfar, so we are going to take his word for what is happening. He posts frequently, so will give us updates, whereas tenfar does not post often (for whatever reason) so we would wait a LOT longer between updates. Let's please not get all trigger happy and start throwing around accusations.

Exador... GTFO. Every thread you post in is just a troll post meant to stir up arguments and controversy. I don't know what your agenda is, but it's just ridiculous. Please leave the Atrix forum and never come back. I think every person on this forum would agree with me on this one.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] CaelanT:
This all started out with good intentions, but it appears many of those who donated want instant gratification, and really need to realize that just because the community has helped Tenfar get his own Atrix to possibly speed up his work, and stop him killing his friends Atrix, this may never happen!!!

Whether it does or does not, Tenfar in my opinion deserved the measly donations he has received just for the CWM project he did without being asked to by anyone, and thus enabling ALL of us to benefit.

Put a software development engineer on this, and pay actual hourly rates, and you will find that $750 burn in less than one day, and with no more progress than Tenfar has made so far.

If your $10 and $20 dollar donations are hurting you so much, go stand on a street corner for 30 minutes. You'll make it back soon enough!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jruweaver:
Definition of DONATION

: the act or an instance of donating: as

a : the making of a gift especially to a charity or public institution

b : a free contribution : gift

FREE contribution not my words

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/donation

also i'd like to remind tenfar and zexbig that not all of us who donated money expect results. i did it to show my gratitude for what you've already given me. you can use my $20 to wipe your @$$ if you want i don't care what you do with it :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] holtenc:
I hate to clutter up this thread anymore than it already is.... but if I were tenfar or zexbig, and considering the attitude in this thread in the past couple days, I would have already said to hell with it and left the atrix users out in the rain with no unlocked bootloader...... just saying.

I don't want my contribution to be for not just because a bunch of immature, impatient punks whined and *****ed about slow progress in a forum, and discouraged the devs to quit.

I suggest to everyone that demands results, to go and find the source code to various kernals and everything else related to tenfar's/koulks efforts, and attempt it your self. Or at least be able to make sense of any of the code. What's that? You don't know what the hell all that code is/does? Didn't think so. That being said, if all you can do is throw around accusations and whine about not being updated on an hourly basis, just save your self the effort of typing and stfu. As someone already pointed out, you made a DONATION. You aren't entitled to $hit.

/rant off

Ditto
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jimmer411:
Your missing the ENTIRE point. Its not about results or getting scammed. Read the update to the first post and then my posts. People were rallied to gather funds for a specific purpose by zexbig for tenfar.

Its a simple request for clarification on tenfars position in all of this since all we have is what zexbig has told us. Did tenfar agree to use the donations for a phone or was this just wishful thinking?