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[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
@baza14 ask the developer, i was on this site for a long time and only have seen his project, i don't know the status. I think he should be nearly finished, when you read the whole toipic he has posted always the current state.

@prince due to testing of new sdk2, the development will be continued next week, am am looking forward to make voluntas more suited in direction bada 2.0, there is a new performance analyzer, this helps much by finding performance issues :). After that i will finish it and distribute it to my internal tester, thank you.

@lanluckez, valuntas2 will have flash compability with bada 2.0 automatically, bada 1.2 only supports streaming for webkit engine, this will change, this means when you update to bada 2.0 you will have automatically flash support ;), i think this is a nice way from samsung, every app will be combatible and have a better core. Don't worry be happy
[Bada Software Development] lokhor:
When do you think Voluntas will be available on samsung apps?
[Bada Software Development] xsycox:
ich habe da etwas über wildcards gelesen ... ^^
[Bada Software Development] baza14:
Can you write in English?? Protože já taky můžu psát v češtině a nikdo mi nebude rozumět bez google translátoru...
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
Yes google tranlate is a cool feature :)
[Bada Software Development] xsycox:
sorry, the message was for lari directly. :)
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
One of the biggest bugs of Voluntas 1 i have now found, it was hard, but, yet it works like a charm.

On the old version there was an big Bug while rotating the device, after 23 times voluntas 1 should crash and don't work as accpected, it also doesn't matter what the user presses after that, i am so happy, this bug was one of the hardest ever, i spent nearly the whole week for it :).

I also have yet added for me a performance Test for GUI, if the app deosn't stands it, then i also don't release it, the test is simple 100 rotations nearby, nearly hardcore testing for the cpu, while finishing one side the other two are waiting :D, this should help to find GUI related bugs in feature, as end test i will run it maybe over 500 times, this should give the app the kick, if it stands this then the main thing is done.

Everything above harms the App, i think no user will rotate an app 100 times in only one minute.
[Bada Software Development] lasentenza:
Perhaps Steve Austin (The Six Million Dollar Man) :D
[Bada Software Development] michallll1:
or Chuck Norris :)
[Bada Software Development] Otacon_ahs:
Hi larioteo,

First, thank you very much for your work.

Second, it woul be possible to add an User Agent string? like iPhone/iPod Touch... It would be useful for some sites that have web optimized for iDevices.
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
Ok i will look at this, maybe i can change it over the HTML API, i cannot promise it, but i can try it. This will also harm speed, modifying every packet will be a performance loss, but maybe the wave has enough power that the user doesn't see this.
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
New Error System on Voluntas 2 finished, no more popups :) The browser is stable now, i can add the bookmarks which i have wated for, the first thing was the browser, yet i can add the other features than it is done.

To continue only press the error and it is gone :) or rotate the device. Noboy likes errors in messages, or not?

:D they are also a memory issue.

Will Voluntas 2 be free?

Yes for the first week, after that i will make a little competetion where 100 users can win a cupon after answering my questions. Maximal selling price will be one Euro, this should be fair i think. I have spent more than three months on this app. Through beta versions here the users can decide if they want to use the browser.

All testers that i know, they will get also a cupon from me personally, don't worry.

Thank you.
[Bada Software Development] Otacon_ahs:
Good price. I think Bada needs a better browser and one euro for it it's pretty fair.

I hope you keep working in this project, and thank you.

When Voluntas 2 will be realeased? Also, I see Voluntas 1.0, is that the beta version of Voluntas 2?
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
No Voluntas 1 is based on APS 1.0 (Larioteos App Protected Model Structure) which has only one Class for all Container and Controls, this causes overcrosses sometimes with all EventListener and crashes the App.

The new Model has every meaning of an Container (Pseudo Container) seperated in a own memory location and so there all don't know each other, only the Sequencer Core can indicate events on each other, which is also the Form of the App, so i can handle Events when i want to. Also every Setting is Stored in a polymorphic Singletone Class that can be only once instanced and used, this also protects multiple uses of Database and such things, which has caused some errors. Also this class is my interface to the Open Bada Libs (functions that extracted and free for public).

The last thing, the AppClass that gets the bada Events is capsuled, no direct access to it, so this class can send a stop event to the sequencer and he can handle everything in a clean way. So everything gets controlled by me.

This Model is the APS2 and should be more stabler than the old, the worse thing is that everything needs to be rewritten, but so i also can fix old memory issues, step by step, this is also why it takes longer than normally, it is a completly new app, that will look a little bit different then the first version.

This is also the cause why i have choosed the number 2 in the version, its core is completly on a new base.

The old worked good for badaSI there i needet simultanesouly all values, but in a browser where a error can occure everytime this method is ****.

So don't worry, also the new GUI Tester shows me unknown memory heaps in the app. The memory is the most important part yet, the Ux is on second place. Also after adding new things i test the app of all parts, a single button needs to be three hours testet, that i am sure, that the implementation of it is the right way.

Voluntas 1 was in the first versions more stable than in the last, cause more features have caused more bugs that cannot be solved with the old model.

For an AppStore app i need more security and stability, which will be coming with v2.

Also the Configuration of the App gets in a new level. The user will have some possibilities to set the browser to his wishes, that is also important to burn down the opponents in the appstore.
[Bada Software Development] psycoy:
... now we have acquired a taste for browser ... you need to translate it into Italian as I did with the Voluntas ... I am here ... by psycoy
[Bada Software Development] michallll1:
Really very nicely presented. Price is good, as would be the two euro people would have complained, two euro but can be at Voluntas v3;) do not know if I understand but you want to give coupons for testers? if so it's nice of you :)

Good luck in the end from the project and look forward to the beta version;)

I can translate for Polish Voluntas 2
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
Don't worry i will post the new language file, when somebody wants his language, he can than upload it, the old language files are also used, but there will be some new things, if nobody tranlate them then i will deactivate this languages, since someone update them.

Also i will add the old files so that everyone can use also the old strings.

@michaill1 no testers will become the app free, no with cupons, i will post the day of release than everybody has one week time to download it, if someone forgett it, than i will give him a cupon, but then other users will have less chance to win some, the cupons are limited by samsung i can only give a fix amount of them for free.
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
I need suggestions^^

How to make the Config Part of the App? How it should look? I have no idea how to place the settings in the Container. I need a layout an idea how to make this part of the App, should there be icons and so on, how to implement it.

I am i think one of the worst designers ever, only an idea can help me here.

I could place everything in a huge list :) this wouldn look great i think. Could someone make an suggestion? With a picture how to place everything and what kind of control it should be?

Available Config:

- SkinColor

- EffectColor

- IconSet

- Startpage

- SearchEngine

- ShowKey

- UseKeysBF

- UseSensors

- URLCorrection

- AutoSearch

- SaveHistory

- ShowStatus

- AutoCleanUp

- ShowImages

- ChacheMode

- TextEncoding

- FontSize

- RunJavaScript
[Bada Software Development] xsycox:
as information: http://www.useragentstring.com
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
Ok thank you,

now i need someone how draw me an possible config container? Is there out someone who can make such a thing?
[Bada Software Development] wxtester:
lariteo, what do you think about this?

In my opinion Voluntas should be colorful for example like this :)
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
changed my mind^^
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
OK new planning:

Everyone can offer his own custom icon set for voluntas 2 i let this interface open for everyone, only one thing, the people will be listed as provider of the set, but don't have any advantage of earning money with the app. It is only for they that want they own custom set of icons.

Maybe there is a way to provide such IconSets seperately in the appstore, so the designer also can earn money with the app, i must look what samsung store provides. Like GUI plugins for voluntas.

If an AppUpdate can only copy new files in the existing app this would be a nice solution. or i make a search and add plugin function, i will think about the best solution.

Like an own store for the app.

Who wants to provide free icons can post them here i will post a list of what is needet later.
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
Custom Icon Sets for Voluntas 2

Rules:

The Icon Sets must be exactle the structure descripted bellow, the names must also be the same, only the Icon Set Name can be another. Due to issues with buttons the icons must have all the same size as described, and they must all be in Portable Network Graphic Format (PNG). The last thing use simplier icons not overloadet with to much informations, this could cause irritations by the users.

RootDirectory = IconSet Name (Example: "Vivid", no special chars or spaces, in Enlgish)

SubDirectories = AddressBar, ToolBar, Config, Bookmarks, History, Downloads

AddressBar (64px) = Abort, Home, Reload

ToolBar (64px) = Backward, Forward, History, Bookmarks, Config, Save, Downloads, Exit

Bookmarks (128px) = Area, Mark

History (128px) = Default

Config (128px) = SkinColor, EffectColor, IconSet, Startpage, Homepage, SearchEngine, ShowKey, UseKeysBF, UseSensors, URLCorrection, AutoSearch, SaveHistory, ShowStatus, AutoCleanUp, ShowImages, ChacheMode, TextEncoding, FontSize, RunJavaScript

Downloads (128px) = Default

Download and History will be extendet in feature, file types related, but from now the Default icon for both is enough.

Special Descriptions:

Home = Homepage Icon for the AddressBar

ShowKey = Key to show AddressBar and ToolBar

UseKeysBF = Use Keys Backward and Forward

ShowStatus = Show the loading animation with bar, if not only errors will be shown.

AutoSearch = redirection to an selected SearchEngine

One thing as last, to minimize memory usage, IconSets are only loadet at startup.
[Bada Software Development] mylove90:
just one day away and you did all this:D

Great Job larioteo

sorry i don't the skills to make an icons set (not that great in GIMP :P)

so there is still memory issue with the new SDK?!

i don't get it....what did Samsung do in 2.0?!

Am i a tester :P ?

Edit : Just got a suggestion from a friend

@larioteo Can you make an option to enable/disable Flash/Html5 to conserve network usage when needed?
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
I haven't said that there is an issue in 2.0, i continued on 1.2 sdk.

Yes

This option will be in new SDK, the WebKit on 1.2 have not flash includet and HTML 5 option is not available.

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@All i have noticed that an error occures after 30 Key presses (very strange), could any one confirm that?

I have yesterday loadet some sites, and at the 31 press the app crashes.
[Bada Software Development] xsycox:
2 € would be fair. 1 € is a joke and just too less. Also, you can not sell it per P-Bill with 1 €. 1 € works only with credit card and then everybody will complain. With 2 € everybody can buy it, even guys/gals, which have no credit card. :)
[Bada Software Development] xsycox:
if you like, I can correct your spelling errors, shortly before voluntas 2 is ready.
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
Yes, would be nice ;)
[Bada Software Development] lasentenza:
larioteo if you want I can help for french traduction if you need ;)
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
Yes, i think french was missing in v1 ????

So i have transportet the bookmarks funktion with some troubles between,

ToDo:

GUI for Settings

History (based on bookmark system)

Add2Bookmarks (a directcall function to add an bookmark from the browser)

GUI for Downloads

One question has anyone testet the KeyPress issue?

After 30 times pressing on back forward during browsing on sites the app crashes unexpactly. I need help if this issue is on v1, then it is a hidden memory issue, i have the same problem with the keys on v2, reported it already to samsung, other big bugs are already fixed, that i have found during porting the existing "good" functions from v1 to the new subsystem.

The Browser seems to load even faster as v1, everything seems to be better handlet. The main goal is already reached, now i must finish the new things.
[Bada Software Development] kozelos:
opened google, clicked on images (to search for images). than 20 times backwards and 20 times forward using volume keys. no crash..
[Bada Software Development] st0rmi:
As long as I'm using the keys only in landscape or only in portrait mode I have no problems. But when I'm switching between landscape and portrait then after 30 or 40 presses it crashes.
[Bada Software Development] BAZZI_US:
Voluntas in the app store? What did I miss? Didn't you say, Voluntas would never go to the store in the future, did you? ^^

Of course, I'm going to pay 2 € for that excellent browser.

Little marketing tip: Bring it to the store BEFORE Bada 2.0. I could be, that in Bada 2.0 the proprietary browser (i. e. Dolfin) is much better than now and any need for an alternative will be gone. ^^
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
Don't worry there will be a little bit more flexibility at the settings, bada 2.0 has a new webkit, also voluntas will get a new, the scrolling will be better, flash will be supportet, than dolfin even don't can do anything more (interesting) voluntas will be an alternative that can export bookmarks, history, only the tabs will be missing, but it will have more customizations, the user can choose which part is more important, more customizations or more tabs, this is a good deal i think.

Some people would like to save their settings and bookmarks this will also be a choosable point for voluntas, i am planning to offer features that dolfing no have, that i can get my group of users, it don't must be a million dollar app, i think some people out there, will always remember, this one was the first with fullscreen and i will ever use it :)
[Bada Software Development] xsycox:
btw, what is the road map for voluntas 2? about when are you able to upload the/a final version to samsumg apps, in your oppinion? july, august or rather later in september or october?
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
July is the plan, the error with the keys are extremly stopping the development of voluntas 2, i cannot offer a crashing browser, while pressing the camera key 30 times.

Also new news:

3 costum firmwares will be allowed to integrate the browser

pscoy, xsyco, xenomorpfh
[Bada Software Development] psycoy:
... thanks to selected my CFW_OXA_JL2 ... by psycoy
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
No problem you asked as the first ;),

1 italian

1 german,

1 europe

my two favorite countries for apps ;)
[Bada Software Development] xsycox:
great news. =)
[Bada Software Development] xsycox:
btw, who clicks 30 times on the camera button? even the testers will not do that, I guess. :)

is it always 30 times, exactly, or just a lot of clicks until it crashes?
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
always while navigating back and forward with the keys you will each it this is not good
[Bada Software Development] kozelos:
some time ago you said there are some free buttons positions in bar. so, now i realized that i really miss button to get to the top of page. for example when scrolling on facebook, its very long site and then to go for example to fb messages its much faster to reload whole site again than to scroll back up...
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
As i said, passing events to the webkit goes always wrong, i must implement a virutal finger that scrools up for you, cause there is no interface for such an action, this would cause crashes as the doubleclick issue.

Without an interface from WebKit, i rather don't wonna to touch it, it is more stabler anyway, this problem is big problem, and it is not even badas fault, the webkit was designet to offer everything by its own, on bada 2.0 you will get this fast upscrolling (also hope for third party apps) than it will be not important.

Sorry.
[Bada Software Development] xsycox:
also, I think there are more important issues. btw, you can slide very fast to the top with the side slider. I use that one often.
[Bada Software Development] st0rmi:
Yeah this is something I really miss on iOS. I would like to see the functionallity of this scroll-slider everywhere on bada 2.0 :) Makes navigation much easier.
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
As i said webkit is developed by many companies, and it is on every system the same **** with another gui.

I also provide another gui, why should a company like apple be better than i? Some Forums that i have found has said that voluntas is only a skin for dolfin, but this is not true it is a skin for webkit, i am making everything what is possible through my hands and believe me it is not less.

If someone would see the source code he would understand me why this project isnt so easy as many think. The gui must be positioned in every part, everything around must be set, watched, controled, checked, ....

It is a hard job to control 5 different parts that are running simultanesously, if they cross with as example database access at the same time, than the app crashes, or if the user would press a button and on the other site someting other is working in background like loading a site while pressing a key.

Everything needs to be controled as more as possible, that the user can turn the device 100 times and press a million time the button, everything should be as it was before such action.

My goal is to make the app abnormaly stable that everybody can only say, wow this app is working like a charm, no crashes. Before such a state i never will put it on the store.

badaSI was passed on the first time i have putted it on certification. My system i think is better, i let the community test my apps, and when everybody is happy and don't found any issues, than i put it on certi. This is a better method, i never could test everything on my own, there would be minimum 5 reverst on certi.

Thank you all my Testers :)
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
Good news for my History implementation. it works witouth the known errors, and is a lot faster than this one from the webkit. this is good.

Now some old crashes relating to the history list are automatically solved with the new system.

Hopefully we will not found another bug :D.

What has changed?

Voluntas 2 got a new system to store the History on his own. This means that the internal function of the WebKit is not used, less from WebKit seems more stable.

The internal WebKit history system has troubles with special characters like ä or í and so on, this is why i have made a own implementation.

Status:

- WebCore 75%

- Bookmarks 90%

- History 90%

- Save (MarkPage) 90%

- Config 40%

- Downloads 0%

- Backup 0%

- Services 0%

The last 25% are related to error handling and optimizations. This means 75% are standing for a dirty way of reaching the goal that was planned with all functions.

The Testers will get the first release maybe witouth downloads here is a little bit more work needet. This wil be also the last part on voluntas 2, the main part is everything else. I also plann to add ability to download youtube videos directly, this should be nice i think.
[Bada Software Development] michallll1:
This begins to look beautiful!!!

Please look larioteo http://www.samsungapps.com/topApps/topAppsDetail.as?productId=G00000997678&listYN=Y
[Bada Software Development] pao9195:
wow UCBrowser for native Bada OS is now available on the appstore :) great news!!!

we hope that also Opera Mobile is also available soon on the appstore.
[Bada Software Development] psycoy:
... I also sponsored some UCbrowser at the time but today there is only one of Voluntas and bay to view the video without the annoying download ... I remind you that Opera Mobile is already available in my CFW_OXA_JL2 ... Voluntas will soon exclusively through Larioteo ... by psycoy
[Bada Software Development] baza14:
Opera mobile isn't Opera mini...:rolleyes:
[Bada Software Development] larioteo:
Ok, this are very bad news for me, 3/4 of users are now gone.

If opera would come than nobody would be anymore interessted and this is a fact. What now? I also don't know it, could we make an question topic how many would use voluntas instead of uc and maybe opera.

Its also good news for bada there are interested companies yeah and we small will get forgotten. No chance to be an opponent of an bigger companie as one man dev.

Well i must see that it will be a good idea to continue there is also not very much left. the v2 yes i finish it as planned but what to do in future? if there are the big ones i have no chance.

:(
[Bada Software Development] mylove90:
Don't worry and Don't be sad like that

Voluntas is doing things in its own way

the ideas of the camera button and proximity sensor are so unique :)

also opera,uc,dolfin didn't implement them until now

your browser will be big but you need some help from others (you are not superman:))

Make a team of developers and go bigger

for me it is all good:D

i am ready to use Voluntas,UC,Opera,Dolfin
[Bada Software Development] michallll1:
I agree 100 percent with mylove90
[Bada Software Development] milli133:
What is your source for that theory? Did Opera announce a release of Opera Mobile for BadaOS?
[Bada Software Development] st0rmi:
As far as I know is Opera not planning to port Opara as native bada app. The opera support was already asked by a lot of bada-users but alway the same answer:

Eng:

Maybe they change their mind with bada 2.0 :rolleyes:

Also UCBrowser isn't aviable in the german store for example.

So I also agree with mylove90 ;)
[Bada Software Development] milli133:
Thanks for your answer. Just made an polnish SamsungApps account to download UCBrowser. My conclusion: that browser is really, and I mean really really, bad. Just a bit smoother than the Java app, but nothing more. Crappy html building with images made smaller and out of line.

OT: I believe in Voluntas 2, and in you, larioteo. Please don't throw away your work due to crappy compeditors. When you say you won't let your browser reach the Appstore if there is no 0% chance of bugs, then it makes me laugh and happy at the same time.

This is making me believe that you are the one who brings us a stable and useable browser to our handsets.
[Bada Software Development] kozelos:
i tried that ucweb and stay definitely at voluntas. its too complicated and the sites load weird. besides, login to facebook is not possible in fact, as it shows login from california and facebook account gets blocked..so larioteo i am still yours;-)