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[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
i dont think its the 2 month lead so much as several other factors that make the bolt more attractive to developers

1. its an htc phone....which up until recently was the most dev community friendly phone and a favorite of many...this has changed...but htc will always have a great following

2. it was the first lte phone...which in and of itself got people to burn upgrades quickly...especially when the unlimited lte ending in april rumor was going on

3. it fit will well into the upgrading period for many who previously had og droids and htc incs

4. samsung/verizon combo has a really bad reputation at this point

5. those who would consider another sammy vzw phone generally have fascinates...and its not worth upgrading to a charge from one frankly
[Verizon Droid Charge] waxedstrong:
I came from a tbolt. It was hard for me to change too! I was used to flashing roms every other day and like HTC for this reason. But I was having reception issues far too often. I also didn't know if I wanted a samsung again due to the lack of updates. But I figured if we get some good developers, that will fix that problem. All i can say, is that after installing a new launcher, the samsung is a much better experience to me.

Pros:

Screen!

real buttons and not capacitive (not everyone will agree)

Fast (browser has some problems with flash, but not many)

Reception (I have been on 4g every minute since i got this)

HDMI out

Battery life (compared to tbolt, had larger battery)

Cons:

Ugly UI (who ever thought of using orange and brown should be covered with acid. Themers get on it)

Samsung has said they will be better with updates, and also Google is enforcing this. Also, this is a flagship device for Verizon. For these reasons, I think we will see updates at a steadier pace.

That's it for now.
[Verizon Droid Charge] NotATreoFan:
The brown/orange theme was probably designed by a fan of the Cleveland Browns (or Bengals).

The physical buttons are definitely better for me, coming from the DX.

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Sent from my Gingerbread-powered Droid X using a full featured version of Tapatalk, better known as Forum Runner. ;)
[Verizon Droid Charge] ShotgunSam:
This worries me as well.

I already upgraded to the Charge from an X, but have about 13 days to decide to keep it or take it back, I considered exchanging it for the Tbolt, but I might just keep my X till the next round of 4Gs, Im in Alabama and 4G isn't prevalent yet.

Im used to being able to flash roms with the X so its weird not having that available at this time. I mainly upgraded for the battery life and to go ahead and get my unlimited grandfathered in for 4G.

However, after 24 hours of using the thing. It is the smoothest operating machine I have ever had (Droid, Droid X previously) and I am liking it enough to possibly overlook the lack of roms at the moment, but we will see over the next week.

My suggestions; Charge owners pledge X amount of donations to which ever Dev gets on this first and helps us out. I have no problem paying them to give us some support, but me donating alone wouldn't be worth it.
[Verizon Droid Charge] -Pagan-:
As someone who just ditched their Thunderbolt after a month of hair pulling frustration, get the Charge. Hands down, get the Charge.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Poloasis:
Definitely Agreed!
[Verizon Droid Charge] thunderstruck!:
What ugly theme? First thing I did while I had mine was install Launcher Pro.
[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
Launchers can't touch the status bar...system icons...pressed images...pop up boxes etc

And the charge theme is really really bad

When your guys get recovery I will probably throw a quick gi.gerbrrad theme together like I did for the continuum
[Verizon Droid Charge] thunderstruck!:
Go to launcher pro > theme settings > icon pack and you can change the app icons. I'm using an ADW set at the moment, the Buuf theme. (At least on my G2X)
[Verizon Droid Charge] skennedy08:
i just bought an INC2 last week, i'm definitely taking it back for a 4G phone seeing is how they will have 4G in my area June 16th. Before the INC2 i was on an X as well, so this post helped me alot! thank you!
[HTC Inspire 4G] Zodiacxx:
Hey guys I just received my phone about 4 days go.

I've learnt alot reading up on here,but I seem cant find help for this one.

I installed a battery mod,and its too buggy for me and i would like too remove it.

But I don't know how please help.
[HTC Inspire 4G] diablo009:
Do u have a backup of the files u replaced? If not, try replacing ur updated files with the files from the ROM zip. That should help.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Zodiacxx:
Yes I used rom manager to make a backup,of my rom before I installed the update.

But, when I went too go restore the backup it told me "MD5 checksum missing" so that failed,hmm.
[HTC Inspire 4G] mudknot2005:
You are going to have to pull the files from the rom like said above, or reflash the rom its self.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Zodiacxx:
Thanks,I pulled the files and works good.
[Thunderbolt General] devindpotts:
Just saw on Android Central and thought it might be worth sharing that Swiftkey is opening up VIP access for the day which will allow downloading of their Swiftkey 2 Beta keyboard. Just go to the link below and click on register, use the promo code #swiftkeyFRIDAY

http://swiftkey.net/vip/index.php?sid=363897a84c55bc1de19460f619840b65

Once you register you can then download it in the forums(link below). I tried it out and best keyboard I've used so far.

http://swiftkey.net/vip/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1115
[Thunderbolt General] winryan:
Thank you!
[Thunderbolt General] mschwartz26:
Thanks...going to give this a try.
[Thunderbolt General] travishamockery:
It's pretty awesome.....been using it all morning. digging the dark theme.
[Thunderbolt General] devindpotts:
Yea, once they offer more skins it will be really sweet.
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
Worked perfectly. Using it right now.
[Thunderbolt General] shawncrobbins:
Thanks for the tip! Using it now.
[Thunderbolt General] rsk2mc:
i got the beta 1 about 2 months ago and that was sweet, beta 2 is amazing.
[Thunderbolt General] dmzxls:
What is new from Beta 1?
[Thunderbolt General] nepperz:
I actually prefer the stock HTC keyboard to any other one out there.
[Thunderbolt General] chkmate:
Thanks, will do.
[Thunderbolt General] Robertus:
It doesn't seem to have predictive capabilities when used in the HTC email application, which is a shame because the predictive capabilities of SwiftKey are awesome.

The backspace-delete key is buggy when used in quickoffice. Hope they fix these bugs 'cause I love this keyboard.

The previous version did not allow you to see what you were typing when used in landscape HTC email on the ThunderBolt. That has now been fixed.

Thanks, Robertus.
[Thunderbolt General] boythatkills:
Thank you! This looks like something I'll definitely have to try out.
[Thunderbolt General] ///Ficarra:
I love Swiftkey. I've been using it since their first Beta last year. I'll have to give this a go, thanks!
[Thunderbolt General] pip77:
SwiftKey is the best keyboard i've used.

Sent from my Thunderbolt.
[Thunderbolt General] midgeteater:
Its asking me for a invite code, I used the promo code and did not work:confused:
[Thunderbolt General] sublimaze:
The invite code was only valid for Friday 5/20
[Thunderbolt General] krnsushiman:
Awesome got it!
[Thunderbolt General] inzandity:
SOB...this is what I get for not checking XDA 1 day!

Edit: XDA pulls through again and someone has uploaded the APK. See the original post here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1088651
[Thunderbolt General] Manipal:
The coupon is no longer working. Can someone please provide with a 8 letter code?
[HTC Desire S] colonel:
If you look at my signature you can see how many phones I have had.

In fact I have had many more, just can't be bothered to update my signature.

So why the Desire S ?

I mean its a mid-range phone right!. No swanky dual core or 1920x1280 screen or nvidia GTX 3D chip, etc.

Well heres the thing.

There will always be people that need the latest for something, maybe a game, maybe a massive screen for browsing (like they can't browse at the office or at home) but the majority of people have two usages of a phone:

1. A Jobbing phone. A phone that is actually used to make phones calls alot of the day. Here a Nokia 6700 or lower trumps the bill!

2. An email phone that can be used to browse abit and occasionally use an app

The problem is that no phone can do both well. Simply because a phone that is too big for 1 can be too small for 2. A phone that does 2 soaks up the battery, etc, etc.

So why the Desire S ?

For many years I have been hoping for the following to come together and it has never been delivered to date:

1. Smaller/lighter device

2. Large screen, say 3.5" or bigger, that goes to the edges. In glass mind, not plastic!

3. Metal body, with quality feel and joy of ownership

4. Touch buttons. Yeah, I like real buttons more, but at the end of the day they get dirty and are mechanical and thus the weak point of the phone

5. Clear bright screen, at least 800x480

6. All the mod cons. Android 2.3 is clearly a very together OS (although WP7 and iOS are great as well)

7. Store apps on the SD card, which is replacable

8. Front facing video camera

9. FM radio (bye bye iphone)

10. Great browser, mutiple emails accounts

11. A super-large and useful list of apps

12. A battery that can get me through 1 business day and 2 weekend days

13. Good quality phone calls

Well the Desire S is it.

It ticks all the boxes.

It is compact, stylish and beautiful to hold and it works slick enough to forget things about speed.

Its a phone I can really use, it just works and fast!

No unecessary 4" screen, no weight, no silly proprietry usb connector, free cloud to store contacts and diary, reasonable battery life, enough memory internally and a replacable card.

Sure I would like double the battery life, double the cpus, but do I really need them ? no.

From the total pain of the HTC Universal through all the incarnations of WM and iOS, I feel I have finally come home

at least for another 6 months .......

PS: I can strongly recommend the "case-mate barely there" hard shell. A bit difficult to get on but protects the back and sides well without adding bulk to the phone or detracting from the shape
[HTC Desire S] adridu59:
+1, I love HTC Build & Sense, especially when I see plastic phones with crappy UI like LG or Samsung phones! (just my personal opinion)
[HTC Desire S] NexusCrazy:
Got to agree 100%. Ive had every iphone and both of googles phones i do say the Desire S is like having a combination of both but even better. Althought I dont need to root the Desire S as much, as it does and looks very well, a big part of me really wants it rooted. Now that would be having my cake and eating it aswell ;-)
[HTC Desire S] nodeffect:
great review, but there's a question.... does the screen scratches without using the screen protector ?
[HTC Desire S] .sh4d0w.:
It has Gorilla Glass.... it shouldn't scratch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibs7EKrTZv8&feature=BFa&list=WLAA558F5B26E101BE&index=12

Not sure it will still work after that.. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KAc_pq35w4&feature=BFa&list=WLAA558F5B26E101BE&index=14

And if you realy want to break it here is what to do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYgq03_yPdk&feature=BFp&list=WLAA558F5B26E101BE&index=13
[HTC Desire S] nodeffect:
but are all gorilla glass the same? The one the droid x has, maybe have a better glass quality?
[HTC Desire S] .sh4d0w.:
That i don't know...

What i know for sure is that the glass is produced by the same company,

and that Desire S is mentioned on the list of devices with gorilla glass.

http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#featured-products
[HTC Desire S] Zinken:
Here is a video with the actual Desire S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjNm47eUXno&feature=BFp&list=WL2C734E80889271C9&index=1

No hammer but good enough for me ;)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
It may have gorilla glass (its on their website), but can appear to scratch.

As I've read within this forum and my own phone has proven....there is a layer on top of the gorilla glass, effectively a coating which can scratch....as my has. But the scratches are tiny and only visible from certain angles and therefore don't inhibit the viewing experience.

I must also agree and echo the thoughts of @colonel it is a great phone!
[HTC Desire S] Blezz:
well in the list they write desire hd got gorilla glass also, but it hasn't
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Nice review, you are write it ticks all boxes, but most pl now a days want the brute power and force for heavy gaming, browsing etc... therefore many ppl get the sgs 2..

it's a real shame as i would like to see some big development going on here on the DS...

i've liked it since the start, so hopefully i can get one too!
[HTC Desire S] .sh4d0w.:
Yeah, well some people, would feel awkward walking down the street, holding a big THING at the ear....(if you don't use a bluetooth headset)

If you want something purely for gaming and browsing use a laptop.

If you want a PHONE, that actualy fits in your pocket, that you can also use to check your email, social networks, browse the web on a decent sized screen, and when you get bored, play some games you can download from the market... :D you get--> DESIRE S
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
yeh you have a point :p although, i have already been used to gigantic screens over the past year! (tg01, sgs2, galaxy tab)

so how do you guys find using the 3.7 inch screen? is it sufficient for good web browsing, gaming?

i havent actually used a desire s in person yet!
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'm not a gamer myself, but love the phone and its size is the reason that I bought it and didn't wait for the sensation.

Find it perfectly adequate for browsing....but then I'm coming from from HTC Touch Diamond 2.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
yeh... i also don't see much of an advantage of dual core when it comes to gaming..

i tested angry birds on my sgs 2 , OSF, ipod, and tab, they all run the same!

same with spiderman mayhem city.. (although a bit laggy on the OSF, but that could be because of the 600 mhz cpu)

dual core only really shines in web browsing.... it's soooooooooo buttery smooth when viewing heavy flash content.. no lag what so ever!!!

i also wouldn't really play games on the desire s , as i do most of it on the big screen ;) (galaxy tab)
[HTC Desire S] maxxur:
I also went for the HTC Desire S simply because it's the best phone for me atm. It's got the stable build (i'm coming from the HTC Legend, once u go aluminium...) and it's just super powerful.

People's first reaction will probably be "it's not super powerful! Tegra2 is way more powerful!". No, really, Tegra2 is too powerful. The Desire S gets 60fps in neocore where Tegra2 gets 75 or 80 perhaps? That's not a big difference, keeping the batterylife of the desire s in mind.

Also, i just tested out the srs sound enhancement. I thought my Galaxy S had decent sound (5.1 option), but holy f*ck, this must be the best sound I ever heard from a device (testing with high fidelity headphones). I've had the ipone, magic, legend and galaxy s before. I also have srs sound enhancement on my laptop, and it's very hard to spot the difference in percepted quality. Strange thing reviews haven't talked about this before.
[HTC Desire S] FK1983:
After playing around with my girlfriends Desire S for a few days I am not liking it much tbh, yes the sense ui is cool but everything else runs slow and choppy for a 1ghz cpu adreno 205 gpu and 768mb ram, and for gaming, well, not impressed at all, my old SE X10 ran games better for some odd reason (my guess being htc sense slowing everything down)

Nice little phone for general use (and definitely a girls phone) but anything demanding you see it soon struggle.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
i suspect it is more to do with un-optimised software... the dhd and incredible s with the same hardware, absolutely fly with general peformance and gaming.. htc will hopefully rioll up another update :)
[HTC Desire S] colonel:
thanks for the positive thoughts everyone!

in terms of your quote specifically, mine doesn't run choppy. Are you upated to 2.3.3 ?

haven't tried turning sense off but probably can.

I use the phone for phoning, emails and browsing. And some apps, but the games I like, like tower defense and stuff, run really well.

I had NOVA on my previous iphone 4. A great game to demo it but not comfortable running a full 3D shoot-em-up on such a small device for more then a few minutes.

Maybe if I was 15 again .....

Its the form factor of the Desire S which I really like.

Its just small enough to be comfortable but has a screen thats quite useable.

Look, I wouldn't want to browse on it all day. If I needed a portable browser I would take my ipad. Under 10 inches does not really cut it for long term browsing.

Which is why I think a 4" or 4.3" screen is a step too far, not a big change in browsing but a larger battery drain and an uncomfrtable phone to slip in your pocket.

Maybe the Desire S2 wil have dual core in 12 months. Wouldn't say no to that if the kept it compact, but for now this is the best of the bunch for me anyway!
[HTC Desire S] Iachimo:
For me

Desire->Desire GD->Desire S

Sofar ive not looked back.

Awesome piece of hardware (even stock)
[HTC Desire S] Nece228:
Who said it doesnt? I had contacted HTC and they said that Desire HD doesnt have gorilla glass, then i asked which of your phones have gorilla glass and they answered none of our phones does have gorilla glass, because they said they cant give more information than its written on their site. And when i gave link to corning website which states that lots of HTC devices have gorilla glass they said we wont comment on third party websites. So in this way, i would trust Corning's site more than HTC customer service, i own myself Desire HD and have compared the glass with samsung ace, which does really have gorilla glass, and the glass feels identical, the sound it makes when you touch with your fingernail is identical, as well as swiping. So i dare to say that Desire HD and other HTC devices does have gorilla glass.
[HTC Desire S] .sh4d0w.:
Lol, first they said none have gorilla glass and when you gave the link... they tried to finish the discussion fast so they don't look ridiculous....

Those operators don't even know what they have for sale.

You shoud have asked about the freezers they have on offer :) maybe they would have checked the site for those too.
[HTC Desire S] Numline1:
It is sad, htc has that horrible support (personal experience). Shame for such a big company. But that's OT.
[HTC Desire S] FK1983:
Yup, its running the latest version 2.3.3, fully up to date, and when I say it runs sluggish and choppy I am comparing it to the Samsung Galaxy S, the Xperia X10 and the Xperia Play, all those phones run much faster and smoother and are FAR better at gaming than the Desire S (and the x10 has a much older graphics chip yet still performs better!)

Even having 400mb ram free on the desire S then launching a game such as Fast 5, it still runs horrible compared to the other phones mentioned, my Xperia Play for example runs Fast 5 at a constant 60FPS no issues and looks amazing, the desire s runs the same game at 18-27FPS with constant drops.

Same issue with other games I tested, same happens even switching to a different launcher.

It may have a lot to do with htc sense slowing the whole device down but it certainly is no performer i'm afraid.

And regarding the screen size, the Desire S has the same issue as the iphone 4 and the Nexus s, the screen is simply to small, its a pain using it for email, games and internet compared to the phones with larger screens, the desire S and iphone 4 has been left behind when it comes to screen size, a 4" is a minimum for android/win 7 and future ios phones.

The Desire HD has a 4.3" screen and is great to use for email, facebook and internet, the Play has a 4" screen and is also fantastic for everyday use, some may say the screens are too large but you can clearly see the larger screen phones are far more popular and sell much better these days as people know a larger screen makes even simple tasks so much easier to do.

Look at the latest phones and the upcoming phones, ALL have a 4" screen minimum, there is a reason for it.......
[HTC Desire S] nodeffect:
It is still the best phone around if you don't really play hardcore games.... for me, every game that I play runs smoothly without any problems... and everything else is just great and smooth... just need to wait for the s-off and get a custom firmware, it will be great after that...
[HTC Desire S] Svala88:
Every game i play on my ds runs smooth and fast with no problem at all.

Never lags or anything.
[HTC Desire S] brokenworm:
Iv had Magic,tattoo,wildfire,desire,desire hd,desire z,desire s,flyer

Playing Gangstar HD vindication without lag at all.. allthoe too many friends on friendstream slows down gameplay.. disable autosync

This one SAGA is the best so far "DESIRE S" RULES. Heh
[HTC Desire S] FK1983:
I should try that although she packed it up to go back now :(
[HTC Desire S] Fionn.Jia:
agree 100%

Got to agree 100%. Ive had every iphone and both of googles phones i do say the Desire S is like having a combination of both but even better. Althought I dont need to root the Desire S as much, as it does and looks very well, a big part of me really wants it rooted. Now that would be having my cake and eating it aswell ;-)
[HTC Desire S] thunder9111:
Agreed 100%

The phone's size and form is perfect.

And I use launcherpro instead of HTC Sense, so everything is zipping fast.

I don't see why I would need a duo core, everything is already fast enough for me.

this phone is everything I need, probably for the next year or two.

it lets me:

-listen to music

-watch videos I put on it

-browse net, email

-read ebooks

-lots of great games to play in short bursts

-camera to take pics anywhere

it's like my own personal assistant.

I have to tell you guys though, get SWYPE, it makes this phone even much more sweeter!! Makes typing a joy on the phone. Never thought I'd enjoy typing on a touchscreen but this is it.

Oh, lastly, the screen does scratch. Mine has. =)
[HTC Desire S] NexusCrazy:
To me the Desire S should have been Google's next phone (HTC Nexus S) ;-) after all its virtually identical to the Nexus One but with extra RAM and no trackball.

I also own the Samsung Nexus S and side by side the HTC Desire S looks and feels so much nicer.

I do think Desire S runs a tad slow especially considering the extra memory it has, but it still runs smooth has a beautiful UI and is the perfect size, screen included, for browsing, checking email, facebook e.t.c. and for the pocket too.

Once the Dev's find a way to turn the S-ON (secureflag) off (software based) or a way to flash a custom recovery image with S-ON, (come on Dev's keep burning the midnight oil. Pure Respect to all the Dev's) I'm pretty sure the HTC Desire S will be a little flying machine.

My 2 cents worth :D
[HTC Desire S] loxa2952:
I'm a Taiwanese and I also think that Desire S is now my best choice.

HTC,proud of Taiwan:D
[HTC Desire S] oftiklaus:
To root or not to root....

+1 to that! There was a time when I would change a ROM every two days (...good ol' WM times...) but now i'm not so sure. For three weeks now I've been installing and uninstalling, browsing, playing, watching video and I haven't had one crash! The phone only seldomly lagged a bit when I tested how many apps I can run at the same time. But just for the fun of it I hope someone will find a software way to S-OFF our beloved Desire S.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
no, the desire s is more of an upgrade than the nexus one. it has more ram, but also the newer SoC, which gives better faster performance + battery life. compared to the nexus 1, it also doesnt have the mulitouch problem, and now supportz 4 way touch.

also it has 1.1 gb rom > 512 mb on nexus.