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[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Nice negativity, may even be sone truth to it, on your phone. Several are reporting better reception, so why try and put it down. Ive been doing this a while, certain things helped, some dont. This works much better for me. So i guess if you start getting dropped calls, you fart on your phone?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nephilim:
LOL^ 10char
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 0soPolar:
That is what I had gleaned from that post.

I would think that would make it impossible to butt dial someone though, unless you take beano before, so there will be no gas.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nfiniti9:
Reception is not an absolute number, its a snapshot in one instance of time. When you see a reading, its at that exact second it read it. In reality a signal will look like the graph for oil prices right now, constant ups and downs. It constantly changes. The number you see is just a split second, although some phones use average over a few seconds or so. Either way it doesn't show you when you get really low dips or spikes most of the time. Its not about negativity, its about how so many people on XDA are pissing into wells thinking their dreams will come true with a simple change. Its just not how the physical world works. Very very rarely do major changes come from simple updates. Thinking a radio magically makes your radio waves act better is just ludicrous.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nephilim:
I figured this comment would eventually be posted, You are being kind of narrow minded and assuming the people at XDA are all unintelligent by saying this. I myself (and I am willing to bet many others) have been averaging this radio since it's installation, just as I do for about a day or so with all the other radios I get. Although I have only had this one for about an hour I have only seen a dip between -79 and -76, on occasion a spike up to -82, the lowest I was getting in my basement with the newest evo radio was -85. Now moving on to my gps monitoring, I have completely terminated my maps everytime I retry locking GPS, I have gotten a full lock within 10 meters at between 9 and 12 seconds everytime (this is in my basement) when I step outside it is instant. I will still monitor this throughout the next 24 hrs our so (At work, the gas station, while driving ect ect). Please do not assume the intelligent hardworking developers, themers and coders here at XDA just simply install a new radio, look at it once and then decide it's "Epic".
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Say all you want, ive never seen anything under -72, so please explain how im consistently getting under -50? -47 is crazy good signal
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Also, over the last hour, driving all over town checking every few minutes it has not gotten above -56. Now unless wichita built new towers the last 4 hours only 2 things have changed, new gb leak install and new radio. Im curious if you can explain which one improved my signal?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nephilim:
donnyp1, i think we are on the same page. As I mentioned in my above post, most of us monitor thoroughly after installing a radio to see the improvements. I think that some people just like to argue when everyone is actually seeing improvements. It might be possible he is one of the few getting a negative instead of a positive after installing the radio so he is just looking for a way to justify it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
True, some areas the radio may do nothing, just no need to tell those of us who are that its in our heads or something, i am stunned how much better my signal is, i think its stuck on 4 bars!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nephilim:
I couldn't agree more, I always do a couple hours of testing from my basement because it's probably the worst signal location I am in on a day to day basis, due to the fact I live in a city. Seeing a steady -79 to -75 and a 10 second GPS lock is amazing, I've not encountered that with any of the EVO or INC radios in the past. I can't wait to checkout my signal strength when I go to work later!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
My location was locked on before the map loaded, amazing!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] doug piston:
http://dougpiston.com/files/Radios/2.15.10.05.06_Radio_PB31IMG.zip

No wait times. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] grifforama:
Wow, this as a leaked ROM is pretty awesome. Speedy, smooth. I cannot WAIT for this to filter over to the customs....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nephilim:
Same here, I stepped outside to get the mail and tried out maps, lock on right away, I love vector mapping!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bkrickles:
I can't flash it. I keep getting install aborted. I flash everything the same. I go to recovery, clear dabook and cache then install zip. Please tell me what I'm doing wrong

thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cabjmb:
My signal has also been much better since flashing the new radio. I may just stick with stock rooted now that we have gb!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] grifforama:
This is insane. I haven't even flashed the new Radio, and I'm getting markedly beter signal. Almost constantly on 4 bars.

Could this be an "Apple" type signal-software-enhancement update though ?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Matt Devo:
flash from HBOOT not recovery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dscribe:
You don't flash radio firmware in recovery, you flash it in HBOOT.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nfiniti9:
Well being a software coder and knowing about radio waves/antenna algorithms are not the same thing. So I don't assume they do. On the other hand I know we have some very talented devs, although most have left for newer phones. The general attitude on XDA is based on the idea that they can come here flash something and make some major difference. You see it with kernels, roms, radios etc. I definitely dont want to make anyone feel as if I belittled them. Thats not my intention. But there is far more misinformation on XDA than fact.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bkrickles:
Of course, I'm a moron. that makes perfect sense

since I haven't done anything in hboot in a real long time could someone give me a quick heads up on how to flash this radio.

thanks again in advance
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dscribe:
Put the PB31IMG.zip file on the root of your sdcard and then boot the phone into the bootloader and it should flash. (I generally have to use the buttons to select bootloader again once I get into the bootloader to get it to see and flash the file for some reason).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nephilim:
I think your commentary is contributing to the misinformation, you are making a general assumption based on opinion when saying "The general attitude on XDA is based on the idea that they can come here flash something and make some major difference." The people on this forum that are in reference to that probably make up about 10% of xda at most, I could definitely be wrong but neither of us are taking polls and monitoring stats and IP's to see who is coming here to just download and assume their device will be better. The people that are on here whom aren't so computer savvy are being smart and asking questions and the people who do know what they are doing are helping respond and testing these developers roms, themes, apps ect and giving feedback. As much as I love androidcentral, that is the site people are using to get their "quick fix". It is where you go when you are a newbie with android. If you know about XDA and are a regular here most likely you know not to expect instant improvements from anything. I know you are stating your opinion just as I am but you should make it clear that this is your opinion and not fact, you have no way of knowing what people are here for, nobody can see who is downloading what from external links and whether they believe it will be the end-all to their every gripe and need. ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bkrickles:
where is the root of my sd card? I download zips all the time to my sd, like kernels and roms, but I'm assuming that's not the same.

sorry to be such a newb
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Flash from hboot, let it load update, when it asks to apply, click yes
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nephilim:
the root of your SD is the same place you put all the other items you flash in recovery. The only difference is that after you put the PMG31IMG.zip on it you will reboot to HBOOT instead of recovery. You select bootloader/quickboot or whatever the first choice is called and it will load itself and then ask if you want to install. After that you are good to go and will have the new radio upon booting up your device next.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bkrickles:
thanks everyone. I think I've got it. waiting for reboot now.

even after I went into hboot I kept pressing volume down, which was no, and screwing it up.

wow it rebooted fast

yep I got it

thanks to all

great forum
[Droid Incredible Android Development] magneticzero:
I noticed the VVM feature is broke on my phone. It records the message but try playing it back there is a low electronic hum from the speakers.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nfiniti9:
Have you really spent time reading on XDA? (im sure you have, rhetorical question) What I see is posts all the time where people spent about .5 seconds reading before asking a question for something that has been covered 10+ times, or someone stating that a rom/kernel sucks because they had some issue with it, without any real knowledge whether its a rom or flashing problem etc. I think the term dev is tossed a little too freely around here.

Anyway my main issue is someone just ripped a radio from a leaked rom with no testing and posts it. A dev did not post this radio, it was just ripped and posted. Now we have people proclaiming its the messiah of radios. No fact just tons of opinions yet people are eating it up.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TokedUp:
WOW thank you so much. Im not sure about signal improvements yet but the GPS is really improved. Working great on SR4.0
[Droid Incredible Android Development] x2kjosh:
Success! Nothing to it :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thehoovie:
GPS is way fast

I took the plunge and flashed this as soon as I found out about the ROM leak. Like I said previously, 2.15.00.09.01 & 2.15.00.11.19 do not give me signal at work at my desk. This 2.15.10.05.06 at least gets me 1x.

The GPS does lock super fast. Camera and Camcorder works. WiFi works, tested G and N.

~TheHoovie
[Droid Incredible Android Development] justjayhere:
Works fine here..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SomeGuyDude:
Signal is ATROCIOUS on mine. At work, which normally doesn't have the best signal to begin with, suddenly became unusable.

I'm not talking dB signal tests, I mean I can usually get 20-25kbps or so (unless I get a 3G signal which is a rarity), but with this in the speed test I was getting 4kbps and an absolutely hilarious 881ms ping as opposed to the normal 100ms ping I had prior.

This was after a *22899 and waiting about an hour, plus a reboot somewhere in the middle for the hell of it. MIUI, Chad's beta4 kernel. Went back to 4.08 and all is well again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nephilim:
I will agree with your comment about people not putting any effort into researching something before proclaiming their dissapointment. This is an annoyance on any tech or development forum sadly. As for people proclaiming this is the "messiah of radios", I think that is a little overly exaggerated. I, as well as everyone else, have been merely posting our findings on general first glance improvement over previous radios, this radio has been on my device for about 3hrs now, I am not stating an opinion when I say that from my basement alone (which is uber poor service location) I am getting between -79 and -74 dbm on average with a GPS Lock time of roughly 8 to 13 seconds. This is fact, I have monitored and witnessed it. donny is another whom has been doing the same. Tomorrow I will update my findings more accurately when I have time to see how the radio works in different locations around my city. For MY Droid Incredible it is not an opinion rather a fact that I am getting much better reception in the basement of my home, it is also a fact that I am getting a 95% improvement on speeds for GPS lock. If someone tells us what their dbm improvement is the one time they looked at it and then tomorrow says it sucks, by all means, feel free to rip them a new one. I myself am enjoying this radio because it it factually better than any other I have used in the past, so far. I made no comments about the last 3 EVO radios, because there was not enough of an improvement to put forth the effort.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nfiniti9:
If you can put an app on there to show your CDMA and EVDO signals so you can see the two. Knowing if it helps EVDO but not CDMA could be important as data rates can be improved without a signal change. Also the db people are seeing is most likely the CDMA and not the EVDO, but everyone is worried about their data speeds it seems.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JerseyFF:
Flashed Radio while at work today, I get home and I dont have 3G coverage....updated PRL to make sure it didn't get corrupt/downgraded and no dice. Reverting..

EDIT: Reverted....and it stayed at 1X service. Reflashed to the new radio and I have 3G. Thoroughly confused, but I have 3G on the new radio...I am happy to keep it now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Geez dude, tomorrow would you please make sure and wake up on the right side of the bed. People are trying it and getting results, nothing more nothing less. Im curious though, everyone who flashed reported good results, did you even TRY the radio, or are fingers working faster than brain?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Testingchip:
I flashed this radio as soon as I saw it as I do all new radios. This is the first time it seems to have made an improvement. I have read all the bickering and don't want to add to it. Just giving my thoughts.

Thanks to the op for making it available.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Yeah, it may not make any difference for some people.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I flashed this radio shortly after the leak and have been running it pretty much all day.

I am seeing basically the same signal strength which is not a bad thing. Especially since it seems to have removed the delay when dialing out and when receiving calls. Typically I would here 2 to 3 rings before my phone actually rings or the number I am calling rings. Now it is almost instantaneously.

Plus GPS does seem to lock faster.

I will repeat what everyone always says "Your mileage may vary" . Every phone has a mind of it's own and reacts differently to different radios. Maybe that is why it is good we have multiple radios to choose from.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikesincredible:
I always have to try something new so here's to downloading! Most likely ill never be the first to try something because I only have 1 phone! Thank u to all the lab rats...haha jk

sent by 1 of many droids
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nfiniti9:
I disagree. Its not the hardware its the region/towers you use that react to the radio. The tolerance on the components inside the phone is so tight there should be very little to no difference in real world physical performance. If someone knows more than me please speak up. I never worked on mobile phone ic's/pcb but with other electronics in this category its just not a reality.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SomeGuyDude:
SECOND TEST UPDATE: much better. Instead of doing a *22899 I did a regular *228 with option 2. Gave it a little time, turned data off -> on just to "refresh" it.

Right now I'm seeing download speeds of 40-50kB/sec, which is marked improvement.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Smokeey:
Went from 2 bars avg. 3G to 1 bar here at my desk. FML...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] badogg:
Ok, this is the first radio update that I have ever seen any difference in the signal numbers. Usually here at work it is between about 88 and 97 or so. After this and doing the *228 and letting it work itself out all day, it has a number of -71.

I don't know what to think about speed tests. It is just so crazy all over the map numbers different results depending on which server I select. This was before and after the radio update so it really means nothing in terms of this new radio.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
You may be right but it does not account for why my 2 Incredibles with the same ROM act differently side by side.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rlacrossjr:
The closer to +0dBm is better. I went from -75dBm to -65dBm at home. That was going from EVO 2.15.00.04.08 to this one.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] keebz:
FML! updated to this radio from EVO 04.08 and went from solid 4 bars at my desk to 2bars. I guess im goin back to EVO radio.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bigsapz:
Def improvement on mine. Thx!

Sent from my Ultimate 2.3.3 Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_nivesout:
People, the bars are not an accurate representation of your signal!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] poontab:
Working well so far. 04.08 was a major upgrade for me & this seems to be about the same.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RebelShadow:
I just loaded up the new 5.06 radio and it did not do so well on mine. I had the 4.08 radio before and the new radio did not improve my signal at all. Both radios showed basically the same. 5.06 radio measured from -89 to -97 and the 4.08 radio got -88 to -67 but the real difference was in the data speeds. The 5.06 radio defiantly took a hit in data speeds. The evo 4.08 radio constantly clocked about 200kbs. better than the new radio. This in on a 002 inc. with AMOLED display running Chad's beta5 kernel with CM7 build 83.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] poontab:
Data speeds *seem slower then 04.08 but I'm going to ride it out for a week & observe. This isn't the type of thing that takes 10 minutes to test.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] josephpalozzi:
pretty good so far

I have been running the radio all day. I travel around NYC for my work and I can say with the stock verizon PRL i have seen better reception and fewer dropped calls (not just for iPhones!). Anecdotal yes, but I can also say that from my desk at home i have gone from -90 - -85 to solid mid 70's. Works for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MrWicket:
sadly no improvements for me at work where I've always had a crappy signal, we'll see what it's like at home where I normally get better signal. I'll have a better idea after a few days of using this if it's better or worse.. I did test the gps and it seems a bit faster.

If nothing really changes then I'll probably stick with this new radio since there's no real reason to go back to the old one.. I've tried the Evo radios also with no improvement so it looks like I'm one of the unlucky ones that just spends all their time in a bad reception area.. :P
[Droid Incredible Android Development] N-Forced:
Installed this radio today and this seems no different from the 4.8 leaked evo radio I was running before, will give it a week to see if anything changes but as of now this seems identical to the 4.8 evo leak that was released awhile ago.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] POQbum:
^ Agreed, I think Nills posted that hastily, I'm sure he knows that.

@nfiniti9 Radio's have refresh rates and different voltages for signal strength, so I think it's very possible for it to affect battery life, reception and GPS based on those factors alone. There are probably more complex factors that only the developers know about, but there is definite difference between many of these radio's posted, although the changes are all subtle.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DirtySimpleClean:
Holy Batman, was running 4.08 prior and had 1 mbs down, flashed this and now I have 1.5. Sorry for the people that are not having better results but I'm loving this new radio
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I didn't post anything hastily. I have done the same test with every radio and sometimes they are the same or close and sometimes not. I have 2 Incredibles side by side with exactly the same setup and the signal is different. Could be that one has a problem but they are different for whatever reason.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chefyocum:
Flashed this radio at work at a resort in the bumfuck. Never any signal inside, this radio didn't change that but outside got good reception. I'll try it for awhile. I did get some reception in one spot in the kitchen. Only Nextel on the iden network get reception at my work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nfiniti9:
That's true. I guess I'm never really considered they would reduce voltage past the point of losing signal. Generally the radio alone does not consume much more power than a radio on a crappy 3g phone so it doesn't really make sense to reduce its voltage to save power. You never know though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_nivesout:
Wow, coming from the 4.08 radio, the data speeds with this radio are just terrible. Using the browser version as the speedtest app seems unreliable. With 5.06 my 3g speeds were 50-200 kbps, with 4.08 speeds were 700-1200 kbps. Signal strength was pretty comparable. Definitely a huge downgrade in my experience.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
Gps locks in 5 seconds. fastest to date across any android device Ive ever owned. i did notice stable dbms ranging fron -60 to -88 depending on the area. it would also be a good idea to report regional area, so ill start, Tri-state. mainly long island and queens ny.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] glitch620:
Just installed on my DINC w/ SR 4.0 and signal strength is the same but GPS lock is ~5 seconds - fastest GPS lock I've had with this phone!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] loudaccord:
did this do anything to anyones battery? I flashed yesterday and was at 90% battery... work up today at 17%. I didn't use the phone any more than normal and I can usually go 2 days between charge. I'm charging now and will try again... if it goes down as quickly, back to 4.08 for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wamsille:
1) What ROM are you running?

2) What Kernel are you using?

3) What apps did you have running in the background?

4) If you were on the leaked GingerSense, was the phone actually "off" or hibernating?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TokedUp:
after a day of use my signal in my apt is greatly improved. I live on the 40th floor in NYC and my signal was always off and on, with this radio I have 3-4 bars all the time. Thanks again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] vac357:
Thanks! .. I'm in the same region (i.e. work Manhattan - reside in Queens) ... gonna give this a try!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ptraillz:
New Radio - Kingdom Stock GingerSense 3.0 [Android 2.3.3] [Alpha1]

Anyone else having an issue with flashing the new Kingdom Gingerbread 3.0 release on top of the new radio? My DInc gets frozen at the splash screen. :confused:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] br125:
upgrade your hboot to .92 and reflash

It is not an issue with the radio
[Droid Incredible Android Development] loudaccord:
-ROM - SkyRaider 4.0

-Kernel - Chad's 12.23

-Running - Just Email, everything else was off. I looked at battery usage and Cell standby was the top consumer.

-No gingersense

I didn't put 4.08 back yet, I'm fully charged now and will report back tomorrow, could have been a fluke.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Doddzilla:
Unable to install. Go to h boot and it says no image? WTF