yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 General] laill:
...joking

cant find it now,but I remember that SE did give a comment to deny the existence of Android 2.4 and said that just was a typing error:)

cheers,

L
[XPERIA X10 General] rabetionline:
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_24_..._prototype_is_still_gingerbread-news-2202.php
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
How can it be perfect when you admit the camera and battery are not?

No offense to our devs, but if the devs here were any faster than SE we would have a fully functional ROM.
[XPERIA X10 General] chaurjyh:
I noticed that as well... shouldnt gingerbread feature 2.6.32 kernel? The arc spots a 2.6.32 kernel so i would assume since we're getting gingerbread, we would get the same kernel as well...
[XPERIA X10 General] LegibleEel:
yeh I assumed we'd be getting the 2.6.32 kernal as well, though I guess they might just be adding to the 2.6.29 kernal like the developers here on xda.

Well we can only wait and see :D
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Newer kernel will be included in the Gingerbread update.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
like I said a couple of pages back. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Rash-182:
But the only thing that does matter to me is that if this will mean the FPS Cap will be removed or not.. All 2.3 advantages would be killed because of the terrible screen response.. I´m very close to selling my X10 and buyng Optimus Black or Neo so some official confirmation wold be nice
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
You don't get any more confirmation or information from me, I think I have give all of you some really good news, and the rest will you guys see when the update has been released or SE them self goes out with the info..:)

And if you want to buy a new phone its up to you :) but I would stick around :D
[XPERIA X10 General] stan.s:
IMHO.. SE could be liable for any damages suffered by users on the older kernels. (There have been successful suits against MS.) While they can't force carriers to distribute newer versions since they charge/have contracts with carriers for the branded updates, they would have to demonstrate good faith by releasing the newer safer updates.
[XPERIA X10 General] zdzihu:
No offense to you, but if you _demand_ fully working ROM, consider hiring a full time developer.

Either PM us with a job offer or let us work and contribute in our free time :)

Cheers,

z
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
+1
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
He never _demanded_ anything.. he was just saying there are some things not working.

And everyone knows how much you have done for the x10, including SE i'm sure.
[XPERIA X10 General] baz@gmx.co.uk:
+1 too

Big up Z, and all the devs for bringing us so many improvements.

I can't wait to see what fun you have when se release the next update - you must all be rubbing your hands !!!

as for developing modules, i agree that is a good idea - and as for FPS when se release, it is likley they will still have a limiter - but equally likley our dev's here will be able to tweak it before long!!
[XPERIA X10 General] mingkee:
Will the following work with upcoming 2.3 update:

USB tethering/hotspot sharing?

flash player?

apps2SD

Hopefully the update will be 2.3.4 as it has better streaming support, but 2.3.3 is fine.
[XPERIA X10 General] skydirt:
+1

No one _DEMANDED_ anything. It's getting rather old on these boards... The devs themselves and thier fanbois constantly say " CM 7 or "so and so's" rom, or my rom etc WORKS PERFECTLY... err except the wifi, camera, battery etc.

This is not "perfectly" running. The devs around here are a tad too touchy and take it personally when someone comments about the camera not working on their rom.

It's not your fault these things do not work.

You're not an SE dev or a professional programmer. If you were, well you would be and these things wouldnt be an issue. You do the damn best that you are capable of and many of us are very thankful you give us an option, but that option, in terms of full usability, fall short of a fully functioning official SE build.
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
yes, the functions you listed there will be there in the firmware, apart from flash which you need to download the app to get that working, the rest works without 3rd party apps.
[XPERIA X10 General] rabetionline:
Google Translate: English to Thai

Million Colour=ล้านสี

Is the word beside 16 on pocket ล้านสี?

If your answer is Yes: we will have 16M Display Soooooon!
[XPERIA X10 General] zabihjan:
you should be thankful of devs for what they have achieved with a locked bootloader in our x10s.

if you want working camera and good battery go for a froyo rom or stick with your stock rom from your mighty SE.
[XPERIA X10 General] zabihjan:
we have fully functional froyo roms from Trip, Wolbreak, Rdannar and ofcouse J&Z.

They were alll achieved under very hard circumstances due to bootloader.

there are a number of good gingerbread rom for x10 with limited camera functionality. such as cm7 by J, Iris by Trip, TrimNArc, others
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
I didn't and haven't demanded anything, and I was only pointing out the truth. A fully functional SE ROM with a little lag is a piece of crap, while custom ROMs missing zoom or flash or has massive battery drain is perfect????????

If you found my op that offensive, I suggest it is you who is getting defensive.
[XPERIA X10 General] Andre Verissimo:
Bad and Good News... from Brazil

Sony Ericsson Brazil is saying that the update will come between July and September. Reading between the lines (what is not stated plainly), now it seems that branded phones will also have the update, latter than the unbranded ones, just like it was in 2.1.

http://www.sonyericsson.com/br/prev...ara-android-2-3-chegara-no-terceiro-trimestre
[XPERIA X10 General] LJE:
No offense to the SE devs, but if some of the devs here at xda had the same access that the SE devs had, we would have a fully functioning ROM. (6 months ago)
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
+1

The dev's skills is not is what is halting progress, it's SE's ridiculous security they have put into the phone that has.

They are not hackers (perse), they are developers.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Also, final confirmation. Thanks kenzes :).
[XPERIA X10 General] phflorian:
damn.....it doesnt say anything about multi-touch. hope they fix the crappy DT in the GB update tho.
[XPERIA X10 General] Neo.:
Unfortunately its hardware related
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
No it's not.

The driver we have now forces to make the device act the way it does.

The screen can ignore a third touch while still tracking 2 other fingers.

A bug manifests itself after a delay.

This bug is the key to the truth.

Why would the panel be cheaper than the mini pro.

Considering the x10 is twice the price.

Don't let SE tell you it's not possible.

The initial specs for the x10 had multitouch on the list.

They changed it after the supposed contracts they signed.

The x10 can do everything they said and more.

Don't fall for the propaganda.

The hardware is fully capable.. the driver is just required as we already discussed in this very same thread.
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
Sony Ericsson

I don't think this is true. As far as I know this can't be changed/added with a software update as it's a hardware limitation.

We'll have to wait and see to be sure. I can't think of any other logic reason for what '16' would mean. Could be a typo of course.

-Markus

https://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=27139&post=148675
[XPERIA X10 General] phflorian:
take a look at this link.

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/wp/20...-zoom-feature-in-your-xperia™-10-apps-part-2/

In the limitations section, they say "Xperia™ X10 is not yet fully optimized for multi-touch." the words "not yet" might give us a bit of hope.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
giving me a head ache. it has MT.

moving along......
[XPERIA X10 General] nanodroid:
Source? if true, post link
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
http://www.swedroid.se/forum/showpost.php?p=615285&postcount=4

Here you go, it's in Swedish.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
I'm getting tired of this questions, this is the last time I share info with xda! You will see when the update comes whats true or not! I know what's true so.. You will just have to wait.

It's not out yet, just inside SE so its kind a hard to post a link! And second I don't care who believes me or not. But I know what's true and I have no reason to lie and make my self look like an idiot when gingerbread is released..
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Don't get so defensive. There have been dozens of claims by XDA members to have insider information that very rarely pan out. Even unknown13x, our most trusted insider, has been wrong occasionally. Not to mention, that SE has shown more than once that different departments have conflicting information.

Hindsight being 20/20, I would be careful putting 100% confidence behind anything anyone from SE says until it happens. Look at some of the minor implementations promised in the last few updates that never happened.

That being said, I am 100% hopeful that your source is correct. :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
I lold at your hindsight comment =D

Mysterion.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
I'm not defensive, just getting tired of this :) so in the future I will not tell anything except to people I am friends with here on xda. :)

This news is out on the biggest android forum in Sweden swedroid.se and there isn't any doubts or nothing people take there info and then wait for the update to come. But like I has said 100 times (it feels like that :P) we will see in a few weeks ;) who told you the truth :D
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
For those who believe, just imagine what the devs can do to unleash the power in our phones (I <3 my X10 as always, it's my first smartphone/expensive phone)

For those who don't believe, just wait until the update and see whether it's true or not, and stop asking for proof as it is insider info and obviously they haven't posted that up on their blog yet.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
True.. with SE it's always a wild guess.
[XPERIA X10 General] Apoena:
Yeah, I know.... I'm a noob myself and even I can't stand these guys asking the same thing over and over on the same thread... If only they would look a few pages back they would see you have already answered that!! But don't even dignify that with an answer. Tell us what news you have and ignore the [many] annoying people around.

I'm sure there are plenty of people over here who appreciate any news anyone can provide and are smart enough to take it how it's meant to be read - as someone trying to help us, no the TRUTH set on stone. And I believe these are the majority of the people lurking around here, with the difference that they don't feel the need to keep posting ridiculous questions every other thread, so they don't show up as much.

Cheers! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Hey, I am with you. My fingers are crossed and I am checking my xda app regularly for updates. :D

No need to get tired of this. Some people obviously don't read the thread before posting the same question over and over. Regardless, it is natural for people to question anything found on the Internet, so you should really expect questions when it is hearsay. Especially on XDA. No disrespect intended, just people wanting to verify your source.
[XPERIA X10 General] rederik79:
@ xperia84

I trust you, and you wonder if some of your source begins to speak of a period for the release?
[XPERIA X10 General] pretnarm:
Probably not. Only for 2011 Xperia range as stated on Product Launch Blog:''Another important benefit of this is that it will be included in the entire 2011 Xperia range and isn’t limited to a specific model. ''
[XPERIA X10 General] Deniz.S:
Actually there was a quote that stated the x10 would get it with the gingerbread update... I'll post a link if i can find it
[XPERIA X10 General] fniestroj:
I believe in getting honeycomb from sony soon LOL :D

sent from x10i using Trip's MIUI IRIS
[XPERIA X10 General] kozxmartt:
It will be here when it will be here.
[XPERIA X10 General] Dashkura:
Honeycomb on the X10 that's will be amazing but only with custom rom :D
[XPERIA X10 General] elahly:
I'm badly waiting for it too
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
According to unknown13x, the official 2.3.3 Gingerbread update is now said to include port of SE X10 2.1 camera, not vanilla Android, so we will have a fully functional SE stock camera.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13556987&postcount=25
[XPERIA X10 General] kaisan1:
dude.. its already here..lol

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1057309
[XPERIA X10 General] Hanzo.Hasashi:
Good news!
[XPERIA X10 General] LordRevan:
When I got the X10 I thought... Ok I work for E/// and I can't hang around with Apple stuff. But then I went back home knowing nothing about Android and I found out that this device was absolutely stocked with old stuff. Fortunately Gingerbread will give this phone a new life and I am quite glad I did not waste my money. P.S. SE is not E///, two different companies with different CEOs. Actually I think it's more Sony in it.
[XPERIA X10 General] Metalbuster:
When 2.3 comes out, can you just update it with the official PC Companion if you are using a custom rom now?
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
yes you can
[XPERIA X10 General] fniestroj:
yes WE can :D
[XPERIA X10 General] josephislee:
I bet the update is ready, they're probably just making us wait because updating the X10 earlier will affect Arc sales etc IMO. After the 2.3 update, the X10 will be practically the same as the ARC, and will be running like a champ :D
[XPERIA X10 General] dipanzan:
sorry if it's answered before, but any news on the 16M colours ? :o

Trip has done an awesome job with the new IRIS releases regarding the screen colours :D
[XPERIA X10 General] SSyar:
just bought X10 after the news of ginger...

let see when and how well it comes out
[XPERIA X10 General] sasukeee:
can't wait to c my x10 runing GB stock :D
[XPERIA X10 General] gregbradley:
Again, sorry if this has been answered but last time I looked there was still debate about it,

When we get the official update will be back at square 1 when it comes to rooting, bootloader bypass and modding our phones or will be just as free as we are now?

Or do we have to wait untill someone updates and lets us know?

Not sure if I will update if I lose the ability to mess about with phone...
[XPERIA X10 General] clixt:
U know, i was actually thinking about the same thing. I think we're back to square one..

Sent from my Rooted X10i
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
Well, the arc is rooted already so I'd presume that the same method works on the X10 too.
[XPERIA X10 General] Sharaz22:
There is an comment on official sony ericsson blog saying that Offical SE Rom 2.3.3 for Xperia X10 started roll out 20/6/2011 can't confirm if it is true.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Starts or started?
[XPERIA X10 General] tot31:
will start / will be started......
[XPERIA X10 General] Sharaz22:
It will be starting
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Sony Ericsson Brazil just stated it will come in Q3.

Hopefully that means they roll-out the update here in Europe first (End Q2)
[XPERIA X10 General] nanodroid:
lol, you call that a source? I dont believe anything that is not coming from se.I guess illl just wait, but they already said that it's not going to happen
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Believe what you want.

What did they say was not going to happen?
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
he is talking about se say that x10 never will have unlocked bootloader.

But @nanodroid didn't they also say x10 will never get 2.3 ?

@arkedk But don't care about him.. Don't bother to answer him, he will notice when there update come, and I feel sorry for him and his trust issues, can't be easy:D
[XPERIA X10 General] nanodroid:
What are you talking about? if you cant provide proof from SE then stop posting stuff like that.+Se already said that will not unlock x10 bootloader 100 times, they will be releasing other phones with bootloader unlocked but not this one.

Just be real man

and dont post stuff like this '@arkedk But don't care about him.. Don't bother to answer him, he will notice when there update come, and I feel sorry for him and his trust issues, can't be easy'

just because you are pssd off of this
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
LOL I'm not pissed off. And I post what ever I want as long as I'm sticking to the rules.. I have facts about bootloader Just don't sharing them with you. So like I said we will see in the end who was right about the bootloader. This is my last answer to you..
[XPERIA X10 General] nanodroid:
OK but if you know something, then why not share with us? and it's not who was right or who was wrong, it's cooperating.

Relax, man, have a beer or whatever
[XPERIA X10 General] ant_sperry:
@xperia84

Sounds like you have some inside information, got any news regarding multi touch? I thought it was limited due to hardware but omega red is getting my hopes up for possible multi touch.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
Because i don't have anything to show you, but I know that the bootloader will be unlocked ;) can't say why or how I know but I know. And its not about cooperating is about trust witch you seem to have issues with, like I said I have no reason to lie and look like an idiot in the end..
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Scandinavian power!

I believe what holck has posted (he's got over 3000 posts), that is what Xperia84 reposted here to XDA. He has seen the new firmware running and been in contact with people from the Sony Ericsson development team.

Of course he can't provide official proof from Sony Ericsson when the Gingerbread update is in internal testing.

And yes they've said that they wouldn't unlock the bootloader on the X10 because of some DRM issues. But things change, just like they changed when we got Dual Touch, and was told 2.1 was the final OS upgrade we got.
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
I think everything that was doubted before is clear now.

New Kernel ☑

Open bootloader ☑

16 Million colors ☑

Android 2.3.3 ☑

Only thing I can think of is the FPS cap, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see about that one.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
+1 just one correction I reposted the news about kernel from holck, but the bootloader being unlocked I got from my friend. :) but you are so right about everything else :D

And I think many forget that the Ericsson part in Sony Ericsson is Swedish and that they are located in "skåne" in Sweden ;)

And loved your beginning scandinavian power! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
sorry don't have any news regarding multi touch, but I can see if Holck knows something about it, and also ask my "friend" about it.. But I don't promise any answer. But will try.

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] nanodroid:
Lol, so Ericsson is what is keeping things good I agree.Of course he can't provide internal information from se. I probably agree with the kernel but I don't think they are going to open the almighty bootloader, as you said, due to drm and more if they bring new stuff.

Anyway. I can see us with gingerbread on our x10 and deleting useless stuff they will give us haha
[XPERIA X10 General] Andre Verissimo:
The final touch...

Does anybody know if there will be IP Tables in the new stock kernel?
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
Gingerbread Update Not This Month

It seems that a SE representative on Facebook has stated that the update will happen in Q3, meaning it won't happen this month...

Sony Ericsson

Hi Naveen, we still do not have an exact date for the release of the 2.3.3 update for the X10. The only details we have is sometime during Q3.

- David

Also seems that it might not be "early" Q3 but rather middle or end... which is kind of sad.

- b
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
I don't see where you say it hints to middle or end. It just says sometime in Q3. That could be July 1st. I believe Rikard will post any significant delay in the product blog.
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
It could be...

I was just saying that David said sometime in Q3...and to me that would mean towards middle...

but that's completely speculative; it could be July 1st or it could be September 30th.

The reason I posted was that someone asked whether the updates were starting June 20th. This goes to show that so far it won't happen, unless David doesn't know what he's talking about.
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
Anyways it would make a good end-of-first-year present for me =D
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
All these potential improvements are great.

BUT will the call volume be improved with GB? The X10 is still crap when used anywhere other than in a quiet, indoor environment....................

You may remember that SE promised us an improvement in this area............

Where is it? :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] rabetionline:
About 16M

From a thai Man in a froum:

"Well i am thai and all i can say is i saw the tag which said “16M colors” since the first time sony released X10. so i am pretty positive that the display color would remain the same."
[XPERIA X10 General] josephislee:
Agreed, the X10 has one of the quietest in call volume that I've ever experienced on a phone. Its near impossible to hear anything when you're in any sound filled room.
[XPERIA X10 General] ankur3467:
I don't know, but I never had low call volume experience. I agree ringer volume and speaker volume is low, but in call volume is fine for me even in the most crowded places (bdw I have xperia x10 HD).
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Oh.. so they meant Q2 next year my mistake.
[XPERIA X10 General] phflorian:
Well SE answers team say that the update will roll-out in Q3, but as far as I have noticed until now, they sometimes provide us with false information. Rikard stated a few days ago that there hasn't been change of plans, which means the update is still scheduled to roll-out in end of Q2/ early Q3.
[XPERIA X10 General] a1exander:
You people at XDA has to see this, I d*mn hope he is not lying.

http://android.modaco.com/content-page/341462/pagination/page/0/
[XPERIA X10 General] ang1000:
just wait and see.
[XPERIA X10 General] Berik84:
Holy ****! I'm horny for this update!!! :D

Somewhere I read that the off. update it will be with same camera app like in 2.1..
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Sure hope not... a beta would be great to play with untill releasee
[XPERIA X10 General] andrewddickey:
Gross.....
[XPERIA X10 General] ankur3467:
If that's really happening, then it will be the best thing happened to me in last one month..lol
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Is there a modacco app?
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
Paul said its coming soon. So not yet.
[XPERIA X10 General] anders260:
Thinks he lying.
[XPERIA X10 General] gAracUh:
check this

http://ixperiax10i.wordpress.com/ already update in thai 2.3 dont know if this is official not beta:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TenGJ3mFhNs&feature=player_embedded or this
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Why is he messing with the baseband before uploading the ROM? I'm guessing SE used 2.1.65 for a reason.
[XPERIA X10 General] pyro224:
you might be an exception....in call volume is absolutely garbage in Canada on Rogers network....I cannot hear anyone in a crowded mall, or even in my car with the windows down

its kinda sad that i dont talk to many people on the phone anymore, i'd rather text because i can never hear them.

i hope this update will help to fix this. in call volume is a well known problem and hopefully SE will recognize this. If so, i may even consider buying another SE phone....

Xperia84 - do you have any news on possible improvements for in call volume?
[XPERIA X10 General] Mlody993:
This with Android 2.3.3 for Xperia X10 is Fake!
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
sorry have no news about that. Haven't really asked about it either because my in call volume is good..

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
What are you talking about if you don't mind me asking?
[XPERIA X10 General] josephislee:
I'm pretty sure he is talking about this .

http://android.modaco.com/content-page/341462/pagination/page/0/