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[HTC Sensation] Lazzzara:
I'm not a fan of all the benchmarks. All I know is it feels a lot snappier than my Nexus running CM7, and that's more than enough for me.

Anyway, here's the results I get in Quadrant, Linpack and Smartbench.

*Edit: looks like XDA resizes pngs over 640px tall.

Quadrant

Linpack

Smartbench | Test 2 (Now with compatibility mode turned off - hence the full screen)

*Edit 2:

Quadrant Advanced

*Edit 3:

NenaMark (screenshot went a bit weird)

*Edit 4:

Neocore

AnTuTu | Test 2 (after really slow SD performance first time...)

an3DBenchXL (clearly the SDK screen shots don't like pop ups. 59.60, 18.43, 13.50, 48.97, 33.26, 30088)

If there's any others anyone would like let me know.
[HTC Sensation] tolis626:
Guys,for some reason the Galaxy S 2 gives too high 2D scores.All phones give 10-25 FPS,while the GS2 gives 50-60.That is a factor that drives benchmarks like quadrant higher than normal.Any idea what Sammy did?I don't think it's because of Exynos' superawesomeness,rather some software thing or the Mali supporting UI acceleration(highly doubt that though).

Any ideas?
[HTC Sensation] KingKuba13:
Wow, those are low smartbench numbers. :eek::confused:
[HTC Sensation] MaBlo:
It actually scores higher than my GS2 in an3DbenchXL.

Don't focus to much on these benchmarks guys, how it performs irl is what matters. My GS2 swallows everything I throw at it(FPse@60fps) raw, and I'm sure the Sensation will as well. It's more down to personal preference I think.
[HTC Sensation] solsearch:
Can I ask what class card you're using? I can see that in AnTutu it says the write speed is 3.6MB/s. I just want to see if that's good or bad (if you're using a class 4 it's fine, if you're using a class 6 it's bad).

I think MaBlo's and KungKuba13's scores in an3DBenchXL are prime examples of why it's so hard to compare benchmarks. Each devices did way better than the other in certain tests and much worse in others. The Sensation got a better score but they were close enough.
[HTC Sensation] KingKuba13:
That's one benchmark I have not tried yet. Going to download now.

I'm sure Sensation will perform well IRL. Its interesting to see how every phone performs differently in every benchmark.
[HTC Sensation] Lazzzara:
Yeah... I thought it was a little slow too. It's supposedly class 10, but it's only a cheapy 16GB card I got off Play.com. I just re-ran the test and got much better speeds. I've added a new pic to the original post.

edit: Just noticed the second test is significantly better all round... maybe I should go back and run all these tests again.
[HTC Sensation] KingKuba13:
Hmm, odd how it gets so much higher on double dragon and magic island but so much lower on everything else.

I get the exact fps as you on the atrix.
[HTC Sensation] Lazzzara:
Re-ran the test with better results. Updated the original post
[HTC Sensation] Trekest:
I got my hands on a Sensation test unit again, this time running version 1.05.841.1 CL41472 test-keys. Gave it a go at all the tests of GLBenchmark.

Attached are the results (which would probably take time until they are approved in GLBenchmark's website). The funny thing is - in most low-level 3D rendering this test build manages to out-perform the S2, however in the full graphics test it still lags behind.

I'm optimistic once again!
[HTC Sensation] Nelthalin:
You do know that the original Adreno was designed by ATi? ^^

But indeed the 200 and the 205 where not that fast compared to the tegra2 but the 220 has way more power.

The problem is that nVidia's Tegra 2 was 1 year to late. I would have bin a hell of a CPU if it was released in time. But thats not something we should care about now. We only want the best phone :)

I currently have a HD2 on android and i'm considering the sensation or a SG2 but i dont like the plasic of the GS2. And i think i'm gonna love the High Res screen. I think its more important to me than a faster CPU. I would love to see a good Cam. HD2 cam is crappy as hell. Xperia X10 and Arc have super Cam's compared to the Desire HD.
[HTC Sensation] solsearch:
I now think that the benchmarks are not tapping the chipset to its full potential. I don't say this from any fanboyism but logic. I just saw the benchmark scores for AnTuTu and Quadrant for the Flyer on phonearena (http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-Flyer-Benchmark-Tests_id19017) and they are VERY close to the Sensation. And considering the added core on the Sensation (despite them running at 1.2Ghz vs. the Flyer's single 1.5) and the Adreno220 vs. Adreno205, PLUS the increased resolution on the Flyer and they shouldn't be scoring at the same level. They have the same OS (Gingerbread 2.3.3) and more or less the same Sense.
[HTC Sensation] SERGI.3210:
Mmm... My DHD has 2452 IN BENCHMARK.....i think that sensation puntuation can be better than this but not still
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
im still doing some research as to what is going on. but so far even the desire hd running sense 3.0 and over clocked is scoring close to the sensation.
[HTC Sensation] Nelthalin:
Thats a good find!

indeed. The sensation scores are way to low. It might be true that only one CPU core is being used.
[HTC Sensation] MartijnMM:
Probably cause the S2 is capped @60fps.
[HTC Sensation] brandi:
has anybody ever thought, that the chips stepping just uses the performance that is needed to run it fluently?

I think real hardware benchs can only be made when the phones is rooted and the governor exchanged, so u sure now, that it allways runs full throttle...

I bet some overclocking, and it will kill the benchmarks...

the chipset itself was soooo damn fast (about 2.4 times the speed of the samsung chipset) when shown of by qualcomm!
[HTC Sensation] nirvana2506:
yeah, sure, but if it is not recognizing that full performance is needed, then something is wrong (either app or governor)..
[HTC Sensation] ronijs19:
need android update. crate tablet with this chip and haneycomb. then you see.

for now android dont know how need use a-sync cores.

sensation used only 1 core.

desireHD on 1.2ghz and wery powerfull adreno 220 gpu.

set dhd cpu on chip 1.4ghz or 1.2ghz. run quadrant cpu test some times and see score.

sensation : 5918

desireHD|: ?
[HTC Sensation] Trekest:
So is the Sensation mate :cool:
[HTC Sensation] nirvana2506:
this could be a problem due to the fact, that every manufactor needs ages to provide an update...so we need root and a new governor I guess :)

but I also think, that HTC could get this done on their own...qualcomm also got this straight somehow with the platform device they had or am I wrong?
[HTC Sensation] ronijs19:
android is open cource. htc can make changes in kernel or other places to use secoun core to.

thet can bee in wwe realized fw after mounth or two. rumors for android 2.4 gingerbred that support two a-sync cores. who thet can know?
[HTC Sensation] Barff1984:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
[HTC Sensation] Bratag:
Huh?

Filler for length
[HTC Sensation] KingKuba13:
Yeah test chips provided by qualcomm to show off. lol

Even those @1.5 only scored 2850 on quadrant

That should tell you everything,
[HTC Sensation] ronijs19:
that tell nothing. when you star understand? :mad:

cpu and gpu scores? in quadrant all mes up i/o. htc desire using i/o get 3k+ quadrant.

what show system info? 1 or 2 cores?
[HTC Sensation] BootloopedMillennials:
I'm holding out for a Sensation (currently own a HTC G2). I'm not gonna read too much into these benchmarks, just yet. Those benchmarks were too similar to my 1.5ghz OC'ed G2 (see below), which means something is wrong. I'm guessing the benchmark programs aren't optimized yet for the Sensation's CPU/GPU and not taking both cores into play.

For example in Smartbench 2011, my G2 will score in the 1600-1700 productivity and 1600-1700 gaming index range. In Quadrant, I would score 2700-2800 (up until the latest kernel became incorporated into CM7). In NenaMark, 43.9fps (up until latest kernel); score was in the 48fps with performance governor. Neocore would be in the 57.8fps range.

No way the Sensation should be close to any of those benchmarks, it should be ahead by alot. Ill say this I'm always impressed by HTC's CPU performance but their GPU performance has always been lacking imo (this is suppose to change with the Adreno 220 and hopefully it does).
[HTC Sensation] stepinmyworld:
the post done turned into a specs into thread in which i dont know the terminology to lol. I just wanted to see if people would post they're benchmarks in here. Im so anxious to play with the phone. I love the new facebook widgets
[HTC Sensation] saveferris:
I'm fairly sure it isn't.
[HTC Sensation] Trekest:
As I mentioned in a previous post, I've ran some checks on it: Neocore always scored between 59.6 to 59.9, and on Quadrant spinning earth test it ran stable at exactly 60, dropping occasionally to ~58.

Pretty sure this means its capped.
[HTC Sensation] charnsingh_online:
Yes Sensation is Capped to 60fps, no point going beyond that seeing if display cant render it as most are 60hz
[HTC Sensation] evo9mrjr:
The human eye cannot see more than 60fps anyway that's why its always capped because if it wasn't you'll be wasting resources
[HTC Sensation] Acei:
I can at least speak for the CPU test results for Smartbench 2011 (that's "Productivity Index score").

Sensation's CPU uses two identical 1.2GHz "Scorpion" cores also used by the G2. So its maximum theoretical speed is about 3.0x if you compare it against 800MHz G2. Now yours is almost 2x the stock setup already due to O/C, and it is already a known fact that MSM8x55 scales very well. So even with dual-core optimized Smartbench 2011, you shouldn't expect more than 50% over your current setup. And this is assuming your app is dual-core optimized and not memory-bandwidth heavy (which could create different type of contention).

Many users will prefer 2GHz single-core processor over 1GHz dual-core processor, if they consume equal amount of power.
[HTC Sensation] umd:
According to what? Could you share a source with us?
[HTC Sensation] umd:
I'm just proportioning. If G2 gets 2700 @1.5 GHZ in Quadrant with worse GPU etc. how could Sensation get 2200 @2.4 GHZ(2x1.2) even with better GPU? That's what I don't understand at all. I think something is wrong here, logically.
[HTC Sensation] Acei:
Unfortunately, I can't really speak for Quadrant - this benchmark app mixes many different category of tests. Without looking at the advanced version's result, its anybody's guess.

My guess would be that since Quadrant only uses one core, its CPU portion of the test is probably even lower than your 1.5GHz phone, while memory/file IO and 2D are mostly similar. There should be some improvements on the 3D since Adreno 220 should be better than 205 but MSM8x55 at 1.5GHz probably will produce better I/O speed as well (which Quadrant is heavily based on). So personally, I would not be too surprised if G2 at 1.5GHz outperforms Sensation at 1.2GHz on Quadrant test.
[HTC Sensation] KingKuba13:
Stock it means something.

Modded, its easily manipulated.
[HTC Sensation] KingKuba13:
Its not really 2.4 ghz and comparing a modded g2 is rather pointless.

What's that g2 get in smartbench?
[HTC Sensation] umd:
It's not 2.4 Ghz of course. I was just making same logic with Acei to compare them.
[HTC Sensation] Acei:
Quadrant (and other apps that uses just 1 thread for the benchmark calculations) will only use one core, so the Sensation will look just like G2 running at 1.2GHz if you only consider the CPU tests, while Smartbench 2011 (which does recognize both cores) will treat Sensation as 2 cores, hence running like 2.4GHz G2 (assuming Smartbench does not fill up CPU to memory bandwidth completely which creates further bottlenecks).
[HTC Sensation] solsearch:
Ooookay. I have decided to give up completely on the benchmarks (before I didn't give them much weight but they had the potential of being a good indicator).

The reason is the following:

http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-update-ke7-benchmarks-20110523/

it seems that after an OS upgrade on the Galaxy SII (an official one, not a hack, custom ROM, or whatever) the benchmarks go up. This wouldn't be that suspicious in and of itself if it weren't for the fact that AnTuTu now says that speed reads for the SD card are 475MB/s. WTF? Something hinky is going on there and if I didn't know better I'd say Samsung designed their OS and their upgrades to provide good benchmarks (kind of like some browsers have been known to do great on benchmarks because they were designed to do so specifically but in irl they performed more or less the same as before).
[HTC Sensation] Acei:
Whatever its worth, I have posted an article on the benchmark results for the Sensation. It shows the history of how the Productivity Index progressed over time:

http://bit.ly/lWC3gb

It could be very interesting for some of you guys.

Let me know what you guys think. I can further update the article if needed.

I will post more in the near future for other indexes and for individual mini-tests.
[HTC Sensation] Elchemist:
Very interesting find... would like to see a more in depth analysis of what is going on here.

The CPU score increase could be explained by optimizations I guess...

But as to the outrageous Read speed, it seems like they might have some cache for the on board memory/storage that has been set to cache the benchmarks algorithms? 475MB/s, if that were true, it would rival current top of the line desktop SSDs; and to achieve those speeds the drives often need 8 or more channels working in parallel.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
thanks i can see this being something that htc should look into thanks for the info i really wanted to know this
[HTC Sensation] solsearch:
Exactly. That's why I said the CPU wouldn't be suspicious but the SD Read definitely is and given that it would have to be more or less on purpose since they can't exactly cache the entire SD card unless it were an ancient 64MB card (what were the smallest microSD cards made anyways?) Which makes me think that it's more geared to higher benchmark numbers, which in turn means that the CPU optimizations might be along the same lines and not actually practical for normal everyday use.
[HTC Sensation] Elchemist:
well what Samsung does or doesn't do is their choice.

As long as HTC focuses on meaningful (real world) improvements I will be satisfied with that.
[HTC Sensation] ToneyEricsson:
Hi just thought I would mention something about Quadrant as I have seen this on other forums - Quadrant itself is a lie and not accurate whatsoever.

I have seen ridiculously high Quadrant scores for the old SE Xperia X10 even higher than 2300 and we all know that isn't right especially comparing to the HTC Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
just watched the samjpullen head to head comparison and what i have to say is that comparing boot up on 2 completely different phones with 2 different skins is kind of ridiculous i never would compare boot up speed on computers and the processes used to boot are totally different plus their is the extra boot animation from vodaphone so that was a waste plus samsung changed the boot process it does allow you to get to the lockscreen first but it is doin other scans and checks while as all htcs they do almost all the scans and checks during the boot then go to the lockscreen.. quadrant is completely useless im not to familiar with linpack and the sgs2 is rooted.. but anyway nice comparison
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
i think there are still compatibility issues with quadrant and the new snapdragon...

i think after the next update of quadrant sensation will show us its real face :)
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
please check the youtube videos of samsung gs2 vs lg opt 2x and how close the benchmarks are except for quadrant... and where the opt 2x beats the sgs2... just interesting to see
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
you got a link please ??

does the x2 has tegra too ?? or another gpu or cpu ??
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
sgs2 has exynos/mali400 cpu/gpu 2x has tegra links posted below

let me kno what you think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCMDAWNz5Vo&feature=related
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
i think we cant compare these phone till now ....

for me it was terrible to see my quadrant standard score at around 2200 or so ...

thats not so nice... i even got 3000 quadrant on my HD2 !!!!! with the right rom and sd card !!!!

so i really think we cant compare them ....

i heard somewhere that some phones are running in vsync and some not.... some phones are frame limited so the frames in benchmarks dont get over 60 fps and some phones dont have that !!!!

so i think we need a samsung and a sensation without the frame limit .... but i dont think we can do that as we dont have root for sensation yet
[HTC Sensation] Trekest:
Going back on topic, I've done some more tinkering on the test unit I have (version 1.05) and ran Neocore on it again. Really liked the outcome - 60.1 FPS, on an unoptimized test unit which scores ~1600 on average on Quadrant :p (sorry for blurring, the serial number is watermarked on the screen and it can be traced back to me).
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
you get this out of a sensation ???

is this a good result ??
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
on review of the sgs2 vs 2x video i see the sgs2 gets framerates of 117 in quadrant so i believe the gpu may have been uncapped... was the sgs2 made to be a benchmark/dyno whore and have all this raw power that is not useable like how an 800whp mustang is great on the dyno but sucks on the track?
[HTC Sensation] Trekest:
Yep. This is a sensation test unit, which like the real thing is capped at 60 FPS so basically it means the test was ran at the maximum speed possible. By the way - it averages around 59.8 on this test, I just saved this screenshot for laughs.
[HTC Sensation] tolis626:
No,it's the other way around.

The Optimus 2x is uncapped and in tests that don't require that much power it exceeds the screen's framerate limit.That's why you'll see it in Quadrant's planet subtest hitting some 120Fps,while everything else caps at 60.Hell,on this one even my Desire HD gets a constant 60Fps!On the other hand,on the demo with the hallway(with the lights turning on and off at the end)on Quadrant,the Galaxy S maxes out at 60Fps all the time,while the 2x averages at about 30-45Fps.

And don't check only Quadrant next time! ;)
[HTC Sensation] ericc191:
My only issue with that benchmark is that it's made by Qualcomm.
[HTC Sensation] Trekest:
Well, that's no secret that a GPU benchmark created by Qualcomm would be optimized to their Snapdragon line. In fact, I would've been surprised if the Sensation would've got a lower than 58 on this test.
[HTC Sensation] KingKuba13:
LG revolution just did 2179 in quadrant in a review with a single-core snapdragon.

I guess resolution does make a big difference.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
dont bother with samjpullen, he is a samsung lover. you can clearly see it in his reviews
[HTC Sensation] nukeclears:
4021

sensation XE w/ android revolution
[HTC Sensation] zaki0saad:
necromancy
[HTC Sensation] xzellenz2012:
My 3rd go
[HTC Sensation] xzellenz2012:
Is that score good
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slaphead20:
Anyone know if u can flash a jvo csc over a jvh rom?

Sent from gt i9000 insanity 8.5/fugumod
[Desire General] Jasand:
Hi,

I have wiped my desire as it was getting very full so I fancied a clean, I copied all my pics and videos to my pc and now they play ok but have no sound. This is very frustrating as I have videos of my baby boy laughing and playing now with no audio.

Please do you have any ideas as now there are a lot of memories destroyed.

Thank you for your time.
[Desire General] davebugyi:
On your pc you can see that the video files also have an audio stream? (in properties) Do you have the codecs installed? (Try K-Lite Codec Pack).
[Desire General] michaeljen:
If it's a codec issue on your computer, you might wanna try out VLC media player. It's free and to be honest I haven't come across a codec it didn't recognize. :)

I'd link their webpage but I can't yet, but simply google VLC media player and it should be the top result. Best of luck.
[Desire General] Evil_Cid:
If you tried playing it through something like windows media player, it may well be a case of it not being able to recognise the audio codec. Try out VLC player like the previous guy said..
[Desire General] Jasand:
Brilliant, ill try what you suggest. Thank you.

Was trying wmp and also tried real player but no luck.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buciuta.andrei:
Hi,

I have an HTC Desire with rcmix s 1.6.1 and my weather widget shows the country instead the city I live in (Romania instead Sighetu Marmatiei)

Any ideas of how could this be fixed?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shando:
Hello guys,

I'm no stranger to this forum since i've advised it from pretty much anything but this is my first time posting due to a critical situation.

I decided to root my phone (DHD, 2.3.3 Gingerbread), and while the root procedure and S-off procedure went smoothly.

When i flashed a rom to the phone, this rom to be exact http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1077180, the installation was completed and now the phone hangs on boot screen (white screen with HTC letters just that) for a 10+ mins.

i cannot access it in any way i know of.

i would like to ask if there are any options here to fix this issue

Thank you in advance!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zidane2k3:
The best way to start would be to boot your phone into recovery. When you first power on the device, as you're holding the power button, also hold down the Down Volume button. This should allow you to get to the menu to then boot into recover. From there you should be in CMW, which you can then try re-flashing the ROM, see if that solves your problem.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shando:
Thank you for your reply, zidane. what you suggested worked like a charm and i now have a working phone again. :D

at least now i know how to resolve certain issues but i hope this incident will be the only bump in the road!

Take care mate! :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I'm TheQuest:
Hi Shando

When you install a

Different Rom

from the one you have installed it is always advised to do a

FULL-WIPE

Take Care

TheQuest :cool:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raze599:
Also, the first time a new ROM starts it will take quite a long time so dont pull the power :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zidane2k3:
You welcome, glad i could help. I had the same issue a few times flashing a ROM, the first time i panicked xD But it's easy to resolve. Also make sure to follow the tips above. They're useful !
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cbaird:
my DHD is having the same problem and ive tried reinstalling the rom but that didnt fix it
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] naira1:
This problem mostly occurs if you didn´t do a full wipe before installing. Try doing a full wipe, and then reflash the rom. That should resolve the issue
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cbaird:
i did a full wipe even tried 2 different roms still nothing
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] affinity121:
Sorry for hijacking your thread but what's the procedure to do a fullwipe?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I'm TheQuest:
Hi affinity121

The instructions of using are in the link of the old reply post I made.

Take Care

TheQuest :cool:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] affinity121:
Many thanks for the reply. I'm pretty new to the scene and appreciate the help. Currently flashed two ROM's so far without a full wipe and haven't run into any trouble but I will be sure to do it next time.

Thanks again!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] androidmule:
If I install one of those rooted themes, would it wipe my current rom? I'm using SyndicateRom right now, and I wanna install a theme (By themes i mean those full scale themes you gotta install using recovery mode). Please help. Thanks in advance.