yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
i apologised to andddddy for the comment i made. what im saying is you are arguing to no end

*****ing about it in a developers forum is not going to convince them to add these "basic" features

and im saying right we are still getting the update to chill out
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
No
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
This is a very good q, but i think it's gonna be hard. We probably get Our old kernel with some changes).
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
anhd if every rom by every company was awesome the no one would bother with cooking roms
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
Sorta, but mainly people want a different theme/look/implementation... So even if SE came out with the perfect GB I would want a default looking GB. PLUS I don't know how many people like Facebook, I have one, BUT i don't want one inside my Xperia X10 lol. I am not gonna use this GB...my main reason for wanting them to release it with everything implemented is so zdzihu, jerplea, wolfbreak,tripnraver etc...can come out with there PERFECT GB roms. OR atleast release there dang sources...and whatever else is needed to make GB work.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
listen im not saying these features would be awesome especially better multi touch

and the 16 million colours would be an advantage

however im just saying theres no reason to get mean about it
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
One of us should become a employee at SE and work there way up the ladder until finally they become CEO or astleast development team and release X10 source code...i think it would take less time to do this than waiting for the GB update...haha -Pilot- I understant what you are saying...and would just like to say I never made any rude/mean comments towards SE. just my DEMANDS.lol
[XPERIA X10 General] Bwyan Benton:
I dont think 16m colors is coming...Rikard stated that in the newest blog in the comments. He also stated no unlocked bootloader. I dont care so much for the bootloader, but 16m colors would have been a nice treat.
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
about less RAM or processor...X8 and Vivaz have 65 million colors and they have less RAM and weaker processor!!
[XPERIA X10 General] baz@gmx.co.uk:
Lol, x10owners are getting passionate about this #Phomance Biz, i'm with Pilot on the SE Bashing, just stfu now and wait. Moreover, we will get much more functionality as a result of the update, so be grateful #FlashAddicts

:D
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
16 million
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
be grateful....we bought the phone and its not cheap we shouldnt be greatful! we bought the phone and spent hundreds of pounds on it,they should be greatful we bought it and give regular updates as other manuafacturers do.
[XPERIA X10 General] muratbaizhanov:
so i won 10 pts - 2.3 in august =)
[XPERIA X10 General] pcfanboy142:
Hahaha so many complaints, Sony Ericsson could give off a blowjob with every GB update and people will still somehow find a reason to whine about something.
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
right now other than complaining for not giving 16million colors,FPS cap and multi touch we cannot do anything,and that would be a waste of time,our devs have already bypassed FPS cap and if devs continue their work probably we'll get 16M colors too and may be multi touch but for that we need to wait for the new kernel and GB update,it will boost the resources our devs have
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Can't you guys read the comments below the press release? He said they are still working on lifting the FPS cap. :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] baz@gmx.co.uk:
yes andddy, grateful. you see, se is a company. they sold us a phone but there was no plan for 2.3

and yet because so many of us were unhappy - they continued working to bring it to us.

When it gets here i will be happy to have a stock 2.3 and any enhancements that follow thanks to xda devs. if i want 16m colours i'll chill with lucy in the sky with diamonds :D stop moaning now :D be calm :D we will see what happens in August :D
[XPERIA X10 General] eng.adil85:
Rikard Skogberg say:

As said in March most of the 2011 XperiaTM software functionality from e.g. XperiaTM arc will be included. The UI with the desktop layout and pinch-to-overview gesture will be similar.

he mean similar to the arc or 2.1 stock ?
[XPERIA X10 General] cesko69:
:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/br/preview/aparelhos/xperia-x10/android-2-3-x10-ganhara-multitouch

sony brazil site back in action
[XPERIA X10 General] bodomfan:
which post is this mentioned in about the fps
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
SOFTWARE... not hardware.

I could be wrong.

can you give us a screen shot or link?
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
i asked him all these questions,here is his reply-

Rikard Skogberg says:

June 20, 2011 at 3:38 pm

KunalGahlot and others,

1) 16M Colors – No, sorry.

2) Upgraded from dual touch – No, still dual touch with focus on pinch gestures, as described in earlier posts and video on that update.

3) No as Karl-Johan has been clear on over at the developer blog this does not enable bootloader unlock on X10.

4) FPS cap, I still haven’t got all details around that but are still trying to get a final answer. Do you have a suggestion on a proper way for me to test on the SW I have?
[XPERIA X10 General] marcoplo:
Maybe SE like bad reputation! look in how many website it was posted that se does not have 2.3 and now that they posted that will have! See how many people will read this. This is clearly marketing. It is like Microsoft and vista the same story
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Please show this to Rikard.

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] a.monteiro:
Yeah, they leaked the Gingerbread update and now this multitouch rumor. For those who can't read portuguese, the guy in the comments specified "I already got an update that enabled dualtouch. This is not dualtouch but multitouch, right? i'm confused" and SE answered "yes, it's multitouch".

Let's see.
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Guys I honestly don't think Rikard knows about this.

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Maybe they didn't include it in the prototype because they found out about it later

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
what are you talking about?
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
I'm talking about the multi touch

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] john398:
Like what?? I can imagine holograms and projectors on smart phones, as well as using them as phasers the skys the limit...
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Ahh. your a visionary like me. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
We are imagining them now, we'll get them in a few years. ;)

We should start preparing about what we will not be happy about then! :D :D :D
[XPERIA X10 General] webbsmurfen:
Hmma... This Stinks.. What is the difference between

Android: 2.3.3

kernel: 2.6.29

Baseband: 2.1.65

And

Android: 2.1

Kernel: 2.6.29

Baseband: 2.1.54

It´s like you went to buy a new car but the salesman fooled you.. You did not buy a new car, you bought a paint job, a new interior and a new tire.

Why release 2.3.3 with a 2.1 kernel?
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
there will be a time when airplane mode in your phone will actually transform your phone into a mini jet!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
and BB.54 and 65 when BB.67 is clearly better.

SE is smoking some severe opium.
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
When I first saw the option "Turn on aeroplane mode" in my old WM,

that's the first thing that crossed my mind!!! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] healer82:
I agree with MyImmortal. It seems like everything they give us is not good enough. We are now pissed off about stuff Rickard told us wasn't coming like multitouch and 16 million colour. I'm happy we are getting something because in the end the devs are going to get the stuff they need to help them.

Lets for once just be happy for a minute about an update that was never suppose to come!
[XPERIA X10 General] Wolfbreak:
SE is tripping again, i dont believe them. First they say X10 doesnt support Dual Touch and will not get Android upgrades beyond 2.1 now they gave us DT and will give us 2.3. They are fools, they dont know what they talk themself, one time is this the other time its this. The only real thing to confirm is to test yourself, they dont have any clue about it. Why they make people pissed always by saying we dont get DT no 2.2 no 2.3 and nothing at all we need to stay on their ****ty 2.1 and in the end they give us DT and 2.3. I cant understand why they need to make People angry and sell their Phones and at the end they do what all wanted Months before. Im not sure about 16m,FPS Uncap or Bootloader unlocked we will see when its there. And if its not coming im sure some great Developers can make it with help of SE 2.3 Sources, should be alot easier then with the old 2.1 Sources. Im in Contract until the end of next Year and can extend in exactly 1 Year so i stay with the X10 for 1 more Year.
[XPERIA X10 General] joshuamenezes:
did anyone get the 2.1.1.A.0.53 update as yet ? it says it was released today on ptcrb http: //ww w.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16755
[XPERIA X10 General] GhostWhoTalks:
New Version Certified at PTCRB

2.1.1.A.0.53 - Jun 20, 2011
[XPERIA X10 General] joshuamenezes:
yeah thats what i was talking about wonder what it is??????????????
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
;(

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] admartian:
Since when was 16m colours a 'basic' feature of a phone? Pretty sure basic for phones would only include txting, calling, emails and other communication.

Anything else is bonus.

It is a let down, but let's not get carried away by calling it 'basic'. That's just silly and stupid! :p
[XPERIA X10 General] Wolfbreak:
Whey they still work on 2.1 ROMs, they should work more on 2.3 and get us 16m Colors,FPS uncap and all the nice Features. I doubt a Firmware called 2.1.1.A.0.53 will be anything other then a 2.1 Update again.
[XPERIA X10 General] joshuamenezes:
i just want the FPS to be uncapped and have good battery life don't really care about 16million colours
[XPERIA X10 General] nitodu:
im sorry but i just see Android 2.1 and no 2.3...

why ;)? :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Well I'm pretty sure multi touch is coming. I know what rikard said but its on Sony ericssons website. Maybe its coming after the update. Remember rikard is getting all his information about the answers to our questions based on this one prototype. Well except for 16 million colors and bootloader. But I knew we weren't getting a bootloader unlocked. But still at least the frames cap are lifted. And afterwards they will enable multi touch just like in 2.1

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] xtbk9999:
I am waiting for Trip's Bravia hack on this one :p
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Can someone update me on the kernel status i know the last video showing the unfinished firmware showed an older kernel

but that necessarily mean we arent getting a newer kernel

can someone tell me why we are assuming they are giving us the old one
[XPERIA X10 General] Candy[MAN]:
Correct me if I am wrong, but in order to have native tethering, one will need to be running a GB kermel. Since that video shows native tethering as an option, I doubt we will be running the same 2.1 kernel when we finally upgrade to GB.

Then again....what do I know...
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
Rikard clearly stated that his SW version has 2.6.29 kernel. So they implemented tethering into it. Shouldn't be too hard if you have all the sources of SE. I won't bet the kernel will still be 2.6.29 on release, though ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Rikard Skogberg says:

June 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm

joon,

Regarding the kernel I think not. The kernel version in my pre-relase SW is 2.6.29.

and

Rikard Skogberg says:

June 20, 2011 at 4:19 pm

gnarg,

Kernel as in the comment above,

Baseband 2.1.65 and Android version 2.3.3.

Again note that this is in my pre-release SW though, even though I think those are parameters that are extremely unlikely to change this late in the project.
[XPERIA X10 General] zdzihu:
Bootloader.

If it's unlocked, all of the stuf like 16M colors, fps cap or old kernel will be fixed - it's just a matter of time.

If they keep it locked, the phone is pretty much dead and I'm selling it straight away...

Cheers,

z
[XPERIA X10 General] stan.s:
They don't want to cannibalize any arc/Neo sales. They haven't even announced new phones for att yet, and have a ton of x10's still in stock. Though they realize that without a update it is becoming harder to sell.
[XPERIA X10 General] blad69:
+1
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
it was a typo, was meant to be ;(

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
If the new 2.3 update is up on PTCRB, it would've been version 3.0.1, not 2.1.1. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Omg nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Dont leave us
[XPERIA X10 General] maddes1402:
Yeah, an unlocked bootloader is absolutely the most important point. J mentioned on Modaco forum that X10 is gonna be officially supported by Cyanogenmod when the Gingerbread update is available. Is this dependent if the bootloader is unlocked or could this even be the case with a locked bootloader?
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/20/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-getting-gingerbread-in-august-can-fina/

welp, I guess it's down to early August :rolleyes: I guess the scope got pushed back, and not end of June of the initial scope.
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Your so late..............
[XPERIA X10 General] Stephen3672:
how come i cant get this update 2.1.1.A.0.53 on my x10a
[XPERIA X10 General] GhostWhoTalks:
Just certified... does not mean they have started a roll out and available for all markets...
[XPERIA X10 General] Apoena:
SE Brazil is back up.... still with the same info lol.... go figure....
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
As I've mentioned many times before. Just because it's registered on PTCRB does not in any way mean it will be released to the public.
[XPERIA X10 General] Meraklis56:
trip achieved 24bit color in his roms with no custom kernel.Why nobody else cant achieve this?

He even achieved to remove the fps cap,with no custom kernel.
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
How do you know he achieved 24bit? Because he said it?

Sent from my rooted X10i using awesome custom roms
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
1. He did not achieve 24-bit color pixels. Of course!

What he said was that he made some pixels 24-bit... Ahem... :rolleyes:

Well, truth to be told, I am using his ROM but I have yet to see those pixels.

Maybe I need to look harder... After all, our screen has 409920 of them! :p

2. The fps cap had been removed with a command in the build.prop before Trip implemented it in one of his releases, but in both cases the result was choppy graphics, glitches and compromised user experience. Most likely because the refresh rate of the screen could not handle the raised fps.

So, to your question: the reason why nobody has achieved those things is because at the moment they are not doable, most probably due to the locked bootloader.
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
i read through this thread (and many others), looking at all the whinging and *****ing about things that we NEED and DESERVE and i wonder why i even bother coming to the XDA Devs anymore. Then i see some common sense posts from people such as My_Immortal and PiLoT and i realise that all hope is not lost. This website used to be about being proactive and developing things, not just a place to *****.

Flame me if you will, but its simply the truth. If you flame, you are only proving my point.
[XPERIA X10 General] tomh235:
Well said...
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
+1 I'm totally agree, whining & flaming its getting old. Peace love & X10 is what all is about or should be at least.

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] rrusso:
http://www.sonyericssonpreview.com....0/android-2-3-x10-ganhara-multitouch#comments

3 hours ago SE Brazil answered an comment saying that multi-touch will support 4 simultaneos screen touchs...

And the guy of SE Blog said that multi-touch wont be supported...so who is right? :D
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
I don't know who to believe anymore, too be honest.

Until we have the final release in our handsets, we won't know for sure.

On a side note, SE Brazil talked about GB back in February when at the time every one else involved,

including Rikard from SE Blog, were denying it.

I guess we will wait and see! :cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
SE Brazil must know more than SE BLOG guy

If its true then the SE guy could be clueless

That one x10 vid showed 16m colors. SE guy denied

Now hes denying multitouch but SE Brazil says we have it untill they retract the statement i would believe SE brazil

Rikard might not be the most truthful person
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Trust me Sony Ericsson Brazil us right

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Remember guys Rikard is getting all his answers based on the preview version of his gingerbread

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] emijomo89:
see you guys in august. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Right and they said the update was almost done hmm a month and a half left. Mabey they need to implement some extra features
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
Well they are just public relations people, we don't know what exactly is happening to the development team.
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Lol. Yeah. That's why you have to listen to Sony Ericsson Brazil

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
SE Brazil says nothing about multitouch for Xperia X10. They only say that the current Xperia line with 2.3 running can recognize 4 touches...that means nothing to our phone. Two reasons: he never said X10, and he says phones equipped with 2.3; which is phones that now have 2.3...the X10 has 2.1. I am pretty sure Rikard's information is pretty accurate, even though I don't like the information it is probably the truth.
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
I thought that new xperia use 32 point MT or somthing
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
Yes but as far as I heard...they've disabled all but four...who would want 32 pt touch...lmao.
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
U idiot the title of the whole post is multi touch on the x10 are u stupid

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] bharadwaj1991:
Wow calm down. Just cause its the title doesn't mean anything. Look at this thread so many comments that are unrelated. Still doesn't change the fact that he never says X10 and he says Xperia LINE equipped with 2.3 not 2.1. I'm ignoring your comments you seem kinda rude.
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Lol u do that. Because clearly he doesn't say the Xperia x10 will have 4 points throughout the entire comment section

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
These are his comments.

It would like to know this too. You will now be multitouch?

Hi Luke, all right? Yes, the Xperia X10 multitouch will gain resources / multi-touch with the update to the Android 2.3. Wait soon to publish a post explaining how the feature works.

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] FallenOut:
Chill and lets just wait for the update to come out and answer the questions that is on our mind
[XPERIA X10 General] clixt:
Hell yeah! I totally agree with you My_Immortal since you're immortal lol. ;)

@the hologram comment: I remember watching an episode of Click from BBC UK about holographic phones coming up as the next big thing. =)
[XPERIA X10 General] lildic:
wtf no one can wait till august
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
I can... I am immortal! :D :D :D
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Haha lol
[XPERIA X10 General] FallenOut:
One or two months more really is not a big deal. Nothing is perfect in this world
[XPERIA X10 General] eng.adil85:
ok this is screenshot :p
[XPERIA X10 General] amtzone:
been said today....early august....

will have the stock camera...damn it....

only got facebook UI...:(:(:(
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Lets see. I made a modified 1A power supply. Now I'm running this piece of junk till it Burns into a ball of plasma.
[XPERIA X10 General] batman_112:
What delay?

Why are people characterizing an August release as a "delay"? Didn't SE mention back in March that they plan to release 2.3 for the X10 in Q2/Q3? Isn't August Q3? So why are people being childish? :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Its all about the features locked and lost.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
hey.. its not Sony Ericssons fault that you guys are the one who hyped the crap out of this update no thanks to people like xperia84. you know SE were never the type if company to suddenly become nice and release everything... you guys just hyped yourself up for no reason. this is why I kept my expectations low... so I won't be disappointed for what I know would have happened.
[XPERIA X10 General] Arijit.Ray81:
Update on X10 Gingerbread Update - Click Here
[XPERIA X10 General] phflorian:
oh man... please, please, think with your common sense. the guy who asked SE brazil clearly stated a question about x10. just to mention, would anyone be that stupid to reply a question about x10 with answering with a ridiculously irrelevant answer about other phones?? think about it.
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Wow your really late lol

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] eureka9092000:
Why the official rom 2.3 showed look so BLUE??..even in gallery the screen look blue..
[XPERIA X10 General] josephislee:
I think people are considering it

a delay because SE said end Q2-beginning Q3 meaning July at the latest, as Agust is mid Q3 loool. Personally its not too bad but I wish it at least comes with uncapped FPS :S
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
Android 3D Gallery uses your pictures and it blends them in the background,

so probably he hasn't stored any other pictures rather than the default blue backgrounds! :D

The Gallery looks SE-skinned indeed though!
[XPERIA X10 General] lhphong:
What did you buy x10 for back then? :confused:.

Did you buy it for multitouch? No.

Did you buy it for 16m colours? No.

For an unlocked bootloader? Ofcourse not

For a promise from SE that they will support this phone to its fullest potential? I don't think so.

So now you've realized that you spent your money the stupid way :p Ooops.

Who to blame?
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Hey bro the frames per second cap will be removed in the gingerbread update. Rikard says they're still adding it

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] FallenOut:
well. I buy it cause I like the design
[XPERIA X10 General] eureka9092000:
I just need CRT animation turn on/off in Froyo then goodbye gingerbread..
[XPERIA X10 General] josephislee:
Uncapped FPS <3 LOOL
[XPERIA X10 General] starsunali:
The most important thing for every one that has X10 was Unlocking Bootloader that The SE didn't do this to sell the ARC !
[XPERIA X10 General] t3ej4y:
I very strongly believe he purposely filmed the video with the phone tilted to the side...which would make the colours seem deeper as the contrast is off. Good trick to throw anyone trying to look at how the colours look like off, or to hide any gradients or potential discolouring. A very underhanded one, too. (N) SE
[XPERIA X10 General] t3ej4y:
Hey My_immortal, I think someone ripped off your comment about GB here on xda and posted it on se product blog under his own name... take a look at attached screenshot. Seems like that abrar guy who was claiming we were getting 16m colours unlocked bootloader and multitouch is the culprit.

or here:

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...or-xperia™-x10/comment-page-7/#comment-191961
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
I LOLed big time! :D

Apart from that, I am speechless. :confused: