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[EVO 4G Android Development] Tilde88:
whats a Sense Software Development Kit?

i say sense + AOSP about 1 month
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeWjF:
Yeah, I've been dealing with the same exact thing. Airplane mode seems to trigger it to come on eventually.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ItsDon:
Sounds like a bet! If you've got Sense running on this rom by July 8th then you get to name your case of beer. Me, I'll take Corona (with some limes please). :D

Here as well. 1.2V is too nice to leave but these little tiny bugs are a nuisance.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tilde88:
but alas...programming is where i cannot veer into :(((

ill give some Heinekens for the cause tho :D

just saying im sure SOMEONE can do it...

also, i think htc is releasing the SDK cuz they want the XDA community to 3D their UI a bit :D

EDIT: just realized that HTC only posted the SDK... no source still... and probably never oh well... screw sense haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] fixxxer2008:
it is a beta afterall. im sure deck will get it sorted out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fixxxer2008:
yes it can, you do realize sense is just a plugin/ layer over aosp right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] k2buckley:
It's more than just a plugin/layover. Sense is integrated pretty deeply into the framework. Also, sense is closed source, so that makes it even more of a challenge to port to AOSP. If sense was simply just a layover/plugin then it would be a heck of a lot easier to just pop some sense into an aosp rom. Or a lot easier to take sense 1.0 out of a rom and add sense 2.1 into it. It isn't just a matter of swapping an .apk file, it runs a lot deeper.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fixxxer2008:
i understand that, but it could be done. BUT i don't think many would want it. if we did we could just flash an already existing sense based rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] k2buckley:
Exactly.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
anyone have a link to the amon ra 2.3 haus mod version? i been looking and cant find it :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] rhunt56:
gps problem seems to be resolved

I went to the OTA Rom an did the ##GPSCLRX# code thing with my MSL I got from Sprint and then restored the V Rom and now the GPS seems to be working.

Funny thing was the code thing wacked out the messaging app in the OTA so I had to restore back the 1.2V Rom just to keep from getting continual FC's
[EVO 4G Android Development] Milly7:
Are you using Juice Defender? I have the same issue with 3g even when I just unlock my screen. Chalked it up to it being due to Juice Defender disabling it. I will see if it happens with any other rom and report back. That is the only thing that is killing me on v....
[EVO 4G Android Development] christobal65:
Just did the ##GPSCLRX# after nandroiding back to the ota 2.3.3 then restored my evolution deck Tom an GPS picked up fast we will see if it holds.
[EVO 4G Android Development] FicTioN_v3:
So I was using the Tiamat 4.0.4 with 1.2t. and with great battery life just slightly better than the stock kernel. I tried godmode v8 but my battery life was terrible. I flashed 1.2v and the same Tiamat kernel and my battery was draining very quickly with minimal use. I tried out tiamat 4.0.5 and in 5 hours my battery was dead with less than normal use. I just flashed the godmode v9 kernel and so far my battery life has been pretty good but it's hard to say so soon.

I guess I'm just curious why I'm getting such different results on the same rom just different versions. Anyhow I wanted to share my experience thus far.

Sent from my Decked out Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] dag16:
Are you giving the kernel time to settle between flashing?
[EVO 4G Android Development] volkey:
Can I flash from 1.2o to 1.2v without wiping data, just cache and davlik?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Vegasden:
You should be able to.
[EVO 4G Android Development] FicTioN_v3:
I did when I flashed tiamat 4.0.4 but the results were the same. My battery died so fast on 4.0.5 that I just wanted to get a kernel on my phone that gave me better batter life. I also calibrate my battery after flashing a new kernel not that I've ever really noticed any difference. I have to be able to use my phone for work so the battery dying half way through the work day is not good and just won't do.

Sent from my Decked out Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] mystery_tx_man:
Is Deck on the back of a milk carton these days?
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
Would love to know what kernels everyone is rocking with this rom while we have some extra time without an update. I usually use tiamat, but just dl sz2.2.1 and gonna give it a shot. Tried out godmode, but I have an extended battery and it had no sbc and no smartass governor. What are you guys using?
[EVO 4G Android Development] galandy:
New GPS drivers! A real GPS Fix!! :)

NEW BETTER DRIVERS HERE. FOR BEST RESULTS FLASH THE "Qualcomm Vision GPS Driver v1.1" INSTEAD. THIS POST HAS BEEN LEFT HERE FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES

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I've been playing around a bit with the GPS drivers... Anyone willing to try these drivers instead and report back if they work any better, especially if you are having GPS issues (locking, losing signal, etc)? They seem to be working very well for me, with no high cpu issues as well.

What should be different from the standard drivers:

* No need for workarounds for the majority of people (sense flash, etc...)

* Stable and fast locks

* Pick up more satellites

* No wake locks / CPU usage issues

These are files that you can flash through recovery:

GPS_Supersonic_FIX_Flash - these are the fixed drivers, flash them through recovery (RA recovery only)

GPS_Supersonic_Restore_Flash - these are the original drivers that come with CyanogenMod roms in case you want to revert back (RA recovery only)

If you don't use RA recovery, flash the GPS_Supersonic_FIX_Flash2 file instead (compatible will all recoveries, uses an edify script)

NOTE: Drivers are now part of Deck's 1.2 stable, but NOT 1.2.1. For 1.2.1 and all the other roms (like CM7 nightlies) the fix will need to be re-flashed every time the rom is updated.

NOTE 2: No, there is no source code. This is a modified driver from the gingerbread leak for the HTC Vision.
[EVO 4G Android Development] justin24:
Using Tiamat 4.5
[EVO 4G Android Development] knoc:
Ditto sbc
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeWjF:
So far getting a buzzing lock with GPS Lock. Stuck on a job right now, so i cant test if it'll follow me. But i haven't had a buzzing lock in a while.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mquinn24:
It's working great so far. GPS locks in a few seconds(20 meters). I was having a problem with GPS turning off once I exited navagation. The fix seems to have fixed it. I'll use it more today and report back.

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] w84mike:
Same here, sbc. Working great, very smooth performance with 1.2v.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sobis1dm:
Its probably only me but I've developed a love/hate relationship with Tiamat. I get great battery life and the interactive governor is awesome. But it freezes my phone at least once a day. Usually it's during browsing so it may just be a certain script that burns the kernel, but sometimes it'll happen in a game as well. Sometimes I deal with it, sometimes it makes me mad enough to flash to stock... which then kills my battery, leaving me to flashing Tiamat again. Its an endless cycle.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeWjF:
Have you ever tried any of the savaged zen kernels? Maybe tiamat just doesn't mesh with your phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ItsDon:
Except for the slow USB transfer speed, SZ2.2.1 works best for me on this rom. Stable, fast and great battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] VDub2174:
I'm finally getting good battery life!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] VDub2174:
Tiamat and my EVO aren't friends. I got better results with a Savaged Zen kernel until I flashed 1.2v which give me great battery life on their cooked-in kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] clshores:
My phone just restarted itself for the first time in I can't even remember when. I am using 1.2v with Tiamat 4.0.5. I just installed the Tiamat this morning and was using 4.0.4 before that with no problems. I am also seeing a higher Android System usage percentage with this version as well.
[EVO 4G Android Development] icethegreat:
Man I hope this fix gets better!

I could not get a fix location or anything even after Gps status fix and sense fix! Flashed your fix and was able to get 5 sats within 30 secs. Maps is working! Thanks again! Keep up the good work!

update- used cardiotrainer and worked flawlessy!
[EVO 4G Android Development] galandy:
Awesome! Glad it worked :) Hopefully there would be no need any longer to do the Sense fix either :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] chucktownscitch:
Will that fix work on other aosp roms?
[EVO 4G Android Development] galandy:
It should work on any CM7/gingerbread based ROM, but I tested it only on Deck's so far.
[EVO 4G Android Development] w84mike:
This works for me. Granted my "problem" wasn't as severe as others. Ever since the radio updates, my GPS would appear in the status bar frequently, then run for a couple of minutes before going away. Now it runs on boot-up to get my local weather and takes only about 3 seconds, and I have now not seen it in a couple of hours and holding. This is back the way it worked before the radio update. I'm a happy camper. Thanks for the fix!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Slatter39:
Do you have to flash both files? any particular order?
[EVO 4G Android Development] galandy:
You just flash GPS_Supersonic_FIX_Flash.

If you encounter some issue and want to revert back to the drivers that come by default with Deck's rom, then flash GPS_Supersonic_Restore_Flash
[EVO 4G Android Development] MaxCarnage:
Hey kushdeck; I just came back to the EVO from the EVO Shift (traded with a friend who desperately wanted the keyboard for work and I wanted the big screen back). I have been using CM7 for a while and liked it a lot, but came across your ROM yesterday while cruising the forums. I have always really wanted a ROM that was stock Gingerbread, akin to the Nexus S. This is the closest thing I have found, and so far I am really digging it. It's small, fast, and the battery life is great so far.

Thanks for your hard work and putting this out there. It's basically what I've been looking for in a ROM, and is now my daily driver.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HiTekRawkus:
Does this rom have 720p recording? No mention of it in the op.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ro_bro:
Nope. (10 chars)
[EVO 4G Android Development] HiTekRawkus:
Thanks. Are there any gingerbread aosp roms that do?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jayharper08:
This guy got y'alls gps working and only got one "thanks"? C'mon people :cool:
[EVO 4G Android Development] shortarm:
I got it to work this way too. Just a note for those trying to download it from the XDA/tapatalk app, you want to for the attachment called com.netflix.mediaclient-2.apk -- which isn't first on the list on the app, but it is on the browser.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikeyxda:
OK gang. I finally bit the bullet and tried a CM7.1 nightly. I downloaded build 94 for the Evo, did a nandroid backup, and then wiped cache and dalvik and installed the build 94 CM7.1 and flashed the gapps. My starting point (before that) was Deck's 1.2v build. I went with the included CM kernel. Everything is working perfectly so far and I've noticed a few things:

(1) Look/feel: The CM7 build 94 looks pretty much the same as Deck's ROM. OK, no surprise there I know... main difference was a different default unlock slider and a different boot screen. Other than that, they look, feel, and act pretty much the same. I didn't notice any "missing bloat" or anything else weighing down my phone from the switch to CM7.

(2) Battery and performance. Performance seems pretty close (same) but for some reason the CM7 build 94 seems a little smoother than the Deck 1.2v. Maybe that's just because it's a later build than the (now 4 day old :D) Deck ROM and there have been improvements in the CM7 code. Battery is doing just as well or better than Deck's ROM based on battery monitor reports so if Deck's ROM does "save" us from any bloat, it must not be any bloat that eats battery.

(3) GPS works perfectly for me on the CM7 build 94. Turns on and off when needed/not and no sticking icon.

(4) I've been having a problem with Deck's default browser "stalling". Even on the most esoteric sites (like google search results) I sometimes get the bar at the top to go 1/3 to 2/3 across and then stall until I reload: then it's fine. Have noticed it many times and don't think it's the connection because if I turn WiFi off and use 3G, it does the same thing. In contrast, the CM7 browser (ok, technically the same browser but under CM7 ROM) flies and never hangs. I'm much happier with that.

Anyway, I'm still a big fan of Deck's ROM's as that's where I got started. I may even go back to them but this ~4 day dry spell since 1.2v has me needing my drugs, so I had to go with CM7 nightlies just to avoid the withdrawal. ;) Thought I'd share what I found... no disrespect intended. Just observations.

Mike
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rem3Dy:
The feel the same because they are the same. This is CM7 with adw removed and other device support removed. He renamed the "CyanogenMod settings" to "Advanced settings" it is not built from AOSP source.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikeyxda:
I realize they both come from CM7 which I acknowledged above when I said "no surprise" that they look the same... but if "they are the same", then why are we here? The claim to fame (in the original post here) implies that with bloat removed, you'll get better battery life, etc. So if what you say is true and "they are the same", then you are doing what with Deck's ROM? Saving 10 MB on the SD card? The CM nightlies already are specific to each model.

Mike
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rem3Dy:
Exactly the point I have been trying to prove! Finally someone has seen the light!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Zac95:
Why cant people realize how different these phones act. nightly 94 is sluggish and kills my battery, decks v is faster and doesnt.

my friends phone is slow on decks and cm7, but like lightning on miui

its not better, worse etc. its opinion and individuality. anyone who disagrees is simply arrogant. ask any experienced dev. RESULTS CAN NOT BE REPLICATED WITH 100 PERCENT ACCURACY ACROSS EVERY SINGLE PHONE.

I like Decks better. It isnt better,

Do we ***** when someone doesnt share our favorite color? no

People need to grow up....
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikeyxda:
After trying them both, I wouldn't argue against you. But... I often wonder when Deck posts a changelog like "I tried some new drivers... let's see how they work". It sounds like he's got control over the baseline compiling of the code or some Evo drivers or something and those could be different than CM7? If so, and he has access to a different compiler or different drivers to compile the code CM7 source with, it could be quite different. I don't know: just asking. I'm a software engineer but not under Android so I don't know how these things work under Android.

Mike
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikeyxda:
True, but I don't think it's about "growing up". I think many of us realize that different ROMs may work better/worse with different hardware revisions of the same phone or (possibly even more to point) work better/worse based on what the user puts on that phone AFTER rooting them! Let's face it, we all like to diddle with our phones, using different settings for SetCPU, different programs from the market, different kernels, and so on. I don't think anyone would claim that one ROM is better than another for everyone. I posted my findings only because I find it interesting AND it would sure be nice to know WHAT it is that Deck does to the CM7 ROM that makes it different. WHAT meaning: is it compiled differently? With different drivers? Is the kernel changed at all? How exactly is he making it his own? What exactly is the bloat that he's removing? Is he really making any fundamental changes to the OS that would affect battery life or is he just cutting down on some clutter that wouldn't really affect battery life or performance? Inquiry (programmer) minds want to know. :)

Mike
[EVO 4G Android Development] fadimo305:
CM7 &	decks rom are NOT THE SAME they may be Android 2.3.4 they may have the same launcher but each rom has been tweaked and modified differently to fit our general needs so heres another example:two roms were made by HTC for the Evo but one has Sense 3.0 and the other Sense 2.1,both roms with Android 2.3.4,also the one with Sense 3.0 has been further modified and tweaked to handle the system load from Sense 3.0 .So are these ROMS the same ??
[EVO 4G Android Development] joehunni:
People are referring to the fact that this ROM is built using CM7 as a base, not necessarily saying they are identical. For future reference, they use very different launchers. CM only uses ADW while this uses the actual stock Android launcher.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thaisport_sf:
I've used both and liked both and they each serve a purpose depending on your needs. This is also why I love the android community. With open source everyone is helping make roms better whether it's directly or in-directly.

Deck's ROM is the one I most often use, though I tend to test out different roms but as a daily driver I'm a Decks fan.

______

That said, V has been good except for GPS so I'm about to test out the driver fix. I also run it on a 3500mAh battery so battery life is good. I do have it on 1.228gHz overclock 24/7 both screen on and off. I find anything less now just feels slow lol, once you go fast, it's hard to go back!
[EVO 4G Android Development] flipfone:
Awesome! Got a fix immediately. I changed my route and bang right on ! Thx bro!

Sent from my EVO.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rem3Dy:
I give up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
haha flame war!!! rawr!!!

anyways, I flashed MikG and it runs smoother than this rom with hella good looks... The batt feels like it drains about the same with the same use, but I noticed the cell standby batt useage is only 17% on this sense rom and 57% on the aosp rom. What is the difference? can we impliment this "fix" into this rom and in so doing make the batt last wwwaaaaayyy longer? just an idear. I have this one nanded as it does work mostly, but the lax in gps has forced me to jump ship until its fixed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thaisport_sf:
LoL... If you are commenting about my statement about the android community, I hope you do understand that there is a difference between appreciating the work done no matter how it got done versus not realizing the hard truths of the real world. Just like everything in life, it is also a cut throat world. I've seen many good things come from every day developers just has I've seen as many thrown under the bus.

It is a matter of seeing the positives in things and giving appreciate to those that have made improvements and progress rather than bashing and stepping on others when you see something wrong. People who dare to make mistakes because they believe in an idea are more likely to succeed than those afraid to mistakes.

Thank You to the development community and test users alike for all the hard work you do.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rem3Dy:
No I was not speaking to you, and I agree with your statement.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Slatter39:
I tend to understand your point very well. To buttress your point, if i take Decks 1.2V and edit the build.prop file and change stuff to my name and call it my own rom with credit to Deck, will i be stepping on toes? Any way we look at it, lets just enjoy these roms.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ro_bro:
Not that I'm aware of. Mostly these AOSP roms are derivatives of CM and CM itself doesn't even have 720p yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikeyxda:
The problem is the percentages are relative. I've run Sense ROM's and sense itself was a bit of a hog. Problem is, those ROMs have higher percentages for Sense UI, Android System, and other tasks which pushes the percentages down on Cell Standby. All that might mean is that the CPU had bigger fish to fry (or bigger CPU hogs to feed if you will). It doesn't mean Cell Standby was using less CPU. In fact, when I see "Cell Standby" and "Phone Idle" taking up larger percentages, I usually know the OS/ROM/kernel are doing their job efficiently because having the less CPU intensive tasks near the top of that list means that only tasks that are light on the CPU are running.

When you see things like "Android System" or "Sense UI" above cell standby, you know the OS is likely fiddling with the CPU more than it needs to be. So to me, a high percentage for cell standby in batt usage is usually a good thing.

Mike
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
it makes sense what ur saying. i understand the way its using the batt. On this sense rom i have 55% for display 13% dialer 11%cell standby 9% phone idle 7% voice calls 3% words with freinds and 2% calendar. Thats it. I am at over 15hrs and at 22%. I have been using it moderately throughout the day. Definetly not heavy use tho. I have poor signal at my work, and in some places in my home, and this causes me to look for a signal alot. I am also in the process of draining my batt for a cal so tomorrow it should be better than this theoreticly. for me, i am getting beter batt now than before, without sense running. its not much different tho i have to admit. I cant wait till this Deck rom works fully, or CM for that matter. I may try the nightly that everyone says fixes gps- thats a big concern of mine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] soundwavedj:
This rom is so fast!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jefe00:
If I am flashing from 1.2.x, do I have to reformat, or can I just install over?
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikesYamahaR6:
Running:

Deck 1.2s

2.6.38.1-SavagedZen-2.2.1 -CFS-HAVS+

Baseband 2.15.00.05.02

2.3.4

with GPS fix from previous pages with little to no issues.

Battery life is what i have come to expect from my EVO as I use bluetooth 100% of the time, and am on the phone (in calls) 75% of the day.

Currently, at 9% battery left at 12H 40M on the stock battery.

Can be somewhat glitchy when powering the phone on (From a standby state- to screenlock), whereas, sometimes the phone wont light up.. but i am living with it comfortably.

Thanks guys! Just thought i would share some feedback.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rhconcepts:
Thanks for the Rom, I like it so far.

But I had MikFroYo v4.62 installed last with netarchy 4.3.4-cfs-havs-less-nosbc kernal installed. I had it setup to overclock when on and underclock when off to save power. I had a nice setup going.

Now what kernal will let me do that with a GB rom? right now I can over clock up to 1113 but not underclock. Im sure GB needs diffrent kernals right?

Also MikG v1.03 - Re-Engineered GB Sense 2.1 + 3.0 <<<< Thats not a true GB rom is it?

Last Q, How close do u guys think this is to the final version?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jossdonn:
my cell standby has been the highest by far in my battery usage lately, i'm thinking it has to do with my area and the new radios. might try to flash an older set later tonight to see what that does. as long as i stay about pri 1.9 i should be alright, right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
1.7 pri ous best. I'm using the newest one tho and its working the same. So idk. I get crappy 3g no matter what. The only time I have good signal is when I'm roaming on Verizon towers... And I live in the city....

Sent from my awesomesauce Decked out Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] jossdonn:
I thought I saw somewhere that v+ needed pri 1.9+? I dunno. I'll try 1.7 and see where I'm at
[EVO 4G Android Development] Punchatron:
Are you in NYC? I went back to 1.7 pri too. It seems to work the best so far at keeping a decent signal the longest. With the newest PRI was seeing 1xx pop a lot!
[EVO 4G Android Development] malibu_23:
The clrgpsx method works fine. What the drivers do?

.:from xda pre app via evo:.