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[Nexus S General] RogerPodacter:
I know all too well how bad amoled is on white pages. My n1 pulls 700 mA loading a white web page, even higher up to 900 mA. Look at these results I've tested:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=998544

I contend that amoled technology is actually the worst choice for use in mobile phones because of how power hungry they are displaying white color. I go back and forth on it, I love it but hate it at the same time.

Note: all black screen of pixels at min brightness can only get down to 110 mA, no matter how hard I try to get it lower.
[Nexus S General] sagech:
I think the iphone 4's processor is running at only 800MHz
[Nexus S General] kaizxclusive:
I had an iPhone 4 the battery life was much improved from the iPhone 3GS, but when I got my Nexus S it didn't last long at all, but after a couple of weeks the battery is SOLID. its the same as the iPhone 4 or even a little bit better.

My battery is around 50% in the morning and i use it till around 5 and it goes down to 15 to 20% before I charge it.
[Nexus S General] the red krawler:
1. There is only 1 iPhone. iOS can be customised to a level specific to its host that is absolutely impossible with Android

2. "Walled Garden" means an amount of operating system control over its applications that is impossible on Android

I dont have a Nexus S but I do have an SGS and an X5. Both of these phones last from when I take it off the charger in the morning to when I goto bed at night. That is enough for me, and I wouldnt sacrifice the extra freedom of Android for all the extra hours of Apple music playback in the world.
[Nexus S General] the red krawler:
Probably because so many apps in Android are free, or ad supported? For every premium iOS app that attracts a $10+USD purchase price there are generally multiple free (in fact, often FOSS) apps on Android that do the same thing (inb4garageband).

Then there are also paid apps on iOS that you need to get around iOS restrictions - how many psuedo file managers are there on iOS that require purchasing to get around the lack of built in file management?

Even paid apps on Android of a fairly comparable standard to their iOS cousins are significantly cheaper. Why? Because not every Android owner bought a "premium" (price wise) device like iPhone owners. With iOS you can guarantee that your entire customer base has had the disposable income to waste on ~1k device. With Android, you are dealing with anyone from the sub-$100 outright cheapies to the ~1k premium devices. Pricing your app at the upper end only will simply lose you sales. Not to mention the competition from enthusiastic nerds making free alternatives to your paid app keeping prices down.
[Nexus S General] Award Tour:
I agree, I make similar points a the time. A big contributer to the Android market and its overall success is the lower end (free to $50) market which simple doesn't exist on the iPhone. Apple enforces certain price points to ensure that that iOS maintains a certain market and identity.

Less purchasing power in the Android marketplace means that less quality developers and designers are investing into the platform. The alternatives are nowhere near as good. And often FOSS is a label that is in spirit looked at postivily by .1% of users, and in practice usually means that its nowhere near as good as the commercial alternative that is backed by $ucess.

A lot of people see this level of control bad for consumers but in actuality this control is meant to create a better experience for the user. Apple would simply not be succesful if the control wasn't for anything else, bad products and experiences do not sell.

My original point you quoted is that Apple enforces a lot of things on developers. This includes GUI guidelines (compare the level of design of the average Android app to the average iOS app, Android is downright hideous in comparison) and quality of functionaly (how many apps don't work, cause wake lock issues, or worse, are straight up malicious on Android?).

Having bad apps affect the users opinion on the platform and if you ask anybody who's used both Android and iOS, you will see a clear division accepted opinion.
[Nexus S General] sergey.povzner:
The problem with Apple's approach is that the wall around their appstore is mandatory with no ability to opt out and install apps from non-Apple sources. The fact that it isn't optional and Apple's stance on Flash and infamous section 3.1.1 in their TOS tells you all need to know about Apple's real motives.

In the Android world it would be fairly simple to set up a section in the Android Market or any other app store for premium/recommended apps. Premium meaning that the app meets some quality guidelines and has been tested by the app store for battery drainage, stability, etc. Why nobody has done that yet is a mystery and I think it's only a matter of time before it happens.
[Nexus S General] Award Tour:
Apple's approach isn't a problem at all. All the best mobile apps on ANY platform are in the App Store. They ain't failing here. The only iOS apps worth side loading are the equivalents of rooted apps on Android, and you have to jailbreak to use those (which enables side loading).

The future is HTML5 apps anyway and that'll be as open as it gets. Oh, and Apple is currently the market leader for HTML5 mobile support too.
[Nexus S General] sergey.povzner:
It is a problem for many users who chose not to buy iPhone because of the closed app store. The problem may be more philosophical (I pay $$$ and somebody else decides what I can install???) than practical, but it is a problem nevertheless. Requiring jail breaking to side load apps is ridiculous.

This is, of course, not true. Does Swype or any 3rd party android keyboard app require rooting on Android? Google Voice? Any "adult" app?

If it ever happens, that is a very distant future. And don't underestimate Apple's ability to cripple anything "open".
[Nexus S General] tangcla:
So letting my phone sit idle in my pocket, it was drawing ~160mAH according to Battery Monitor Widget. :(
[Nexus S General] RogerPodacter:
battery monitor widget is only estimating those numbers when used on the nexus s. its using algorithms built by the devloper because the nexus s does not provide mA current info due to the type of fuel gauge used in the battery hardware.

it can get mAh readings, but that is not mA current, so its kinda pointless...

just as comparison, the nexus one pulls 5-7 mA with screen off idle in your pocket.
[Nexus S General] docster121:
Personally I think the battery life with the nexus s is great, it will last two days with moderate use and like others have said u can swap it out for a new one if needed.

www.eliteinsallations.tk
[Nexus S General] tangcla:
Ok, I see. So what you're saying is, there's no real way of actually seeing current draw on the Nexus S, due to hardware limitations?
[Nexus S General] RogerPodacter:
bingo. samsung uses the max10740 and max10742 fuel gauge chips in their phones. the nexus s uses this, galaxy s as well. and they are incapable of outputting current readings. its a bummer. so battery monitor widget actually attempts to do a good job of estimating this info for these types of phones.

HTC on the other hand seems to use fuel gauge chips which do out put current readings in mA.

the samsung chips do claim lower power draw from the chip itself, which is the advantage of using max10740 for example. and it is alllll based on voltage readings to display battery percent. where as the phones that display current readings actually use "coulomb counting" and count the actual mA going thru the battery to display battery percent.

its basically two very different, but disputed methods, which one is better is a tough question to answer.

but i personally like doing tests to see actual current draw, so it kinda is a bummer without this info.

thats why currentwidget doesnt work:(
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
I think the issue could be the processor or that the NFC chip is probably running at all times in the background on the Nexus S. I had 4 myTouch 4g's (I kept switching from phone to phone) and now I'm on my 2nd Nexus S. The myTouch 4g last a great deal longer than the Nexus S even when overclocked at 1.2 ghz with interactive governor and I was running 2.3.4 rom by Faux. Maybe the voltage in the Nexus S kernel is set too high by default or something. I had a few Vibrants in the past and I honestly don't remember the battery being this bad unless I didn't notice it at the time.
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
I double post by accident.
[Nexus S General] jonnythan:
I double post on purpose.
[Nexus S General] KryPTiCk0d3:
LOL!! funny stuff.
[Nexus S General] rickyiswhite:
androids can do more, an iphone its just games music a basic homescreen and a HIGHLY limited browser, there's so much more to android, that's why our phones use more battery power, try an app called juice defender it works pretty good
[Nexus S General] jonnythan:
There's nothing our Androids can do that the iPhone can't, besides home screen widgets. And home screen widgets are nice, but not THAT nice. I think I'd give up widgets to have hardware 2D acceleration and 30% more battery life, to be honest.
[Nexus S General] Award Tour:
Mobile Safari might be missing Flash but it beats Android's browser on HTML 5. Why the hell doesn't Android use Chrome?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] minep:
Hi,

I programming with Alarm app from zero. Need help with time check:

I want:

Minute (mm) is alarm time. In textBox is text "Silent", when is mm time, then in textBox need show "Alarm!!!". Ok.

I added button to set alarm time, when button_click:

private void Button_Click(object sender, RoutedEventArgs e)
{

DateTime myValue = DateTime.Now;
if (myValue.Minute.ToString() == mm)
textBox.Text = "Alarm!!!";

}

This working, when I click button, but need set to all time (eternal cycle).

If use cycle "while":

private void Button_Click(object sender, RoutedEventArgs e)
{

DateTime myValue = DateTime.Now;
while (myValue.Minute.ToString() != mm)
{ textBox.Text = "Silent"; }
textBox.Text = "Alarm!!!";
}

Working, but while != mm I can't do anything else - Button is pressed.

Question:

where need input first code or otherwise need do this cycle?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] minep:
No ideas?:confused:
[EVO 4G General] akarol:
Probably been mentioned before, but I don't really care...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-us-carrier-names-revealed-atandt-attain-veri/

So I'm really reconsidering the EVO 3D now.
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
Hmm.. as much as I hate Samsung, that phone is beautiful. And if HTC is locking down the Evo 3D, I may actually have to purchase a Samsung.

It kind of hurts to say that.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Not me....its still a Samsung. 3d all day!!!
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
If the 3D is locked down the way they say it is, flashaholics will either have to go through rehab, or get another maker's phone that isn't so locked down. :D
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Yes. If the 3D is locked down. Coupled with Sammys new desire to change their bad rep.. with the Galaxy S looking to be one of the first phones officially Upgraded to GB. This phone is looking SO much better.

I just REALLY hope it doesn't have a crappy physical keyboard. I want it just the way it is. Sammy phones also have excellent battery life right out the box so waiting for a solid root method/custom roms/kernels won't be an issue.
[EVO 4G General] akarol:
3D is a gimmick at best. If the Samsung's battery life is significantly better than that of the EVO 3D, I'll have no choice. For me, personally, performance, battery life, and display quality are the most important things on a smartphone. The SII was overclocked to 1.5GHz yielding 4000+ Quadrant scores. That's impressive. The battery life is also pretty good coming from some reviews. I feel the 3D feature and camera on the new EVO will guzzle that battery. And I don't care how good qHD is, that Super AMOLED Plus 4.3" screen is pure sex. The slimness of the SII doesn't hurt either. I don't know about you, but I'm somewhat over my EVO's shape/style... hoping for something different and the EVO 3D doesn't really offer that.

=/
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
While I agree about the 3D portion being a gimmick. It won't be killing the battery unless you're using it.. which is optional. I doubt people that think of it as a gimmick will use it much.

I am 100% with you on your points tho. Performance, battery life, display quality are most important. Samsung repairing their rep is also really starting to win me over. My mom has the mesmerize... that thing looks awesome and has excellent battery life. Plus she is about to get a GB update...

I love HTC.. but I just feel liek the new Sense 3.0 will bring the same poor battery life even with a bigger battery. It may be a little better.. but prolly not much. If the bootloader is encrypted.. then forget about it.
[EVO 4G General] Jfree3000:
That is the determining factor for me, if it does have a physical keyboard then count me out.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Sadly, I agree with you.

I somehow don't think it will tho. The commercial I seen on youtube was showing off how thin it was by sliding it under a door... I would hope they don't plan on killing that by adding a keyboard.
[EVO 4G General] nunyabiziz:
What about this is "OFFICIAL"? Is it that it's coming to Sprint or the name? I read the link but didn't see an official source, sorry if I missed that.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
I dont care if the 3D is locked down or not this will be my next phone. Thats all I needed to hear.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
It's a picture of a case with it naming Sprint as one of the carriers for their device.... can't get much more official except for Sprint coming out and admitting to it
[EVO 4G General] Sunsparc:
I made a case for it and it's going to be called the Samsung DooDooHead.

Official?
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
I'm pretty sure this will not have a physical keyboard, look at the case. Case in point (pun intended).
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
This is one tempting phone. If it comes with no keyboard then that is my next phone. Pending a few months after release to see reviews and reliability on this sexy beast.

Nexus S looks so old now.....
[EVO 4G General] dabbill:
My next phone will either be this or the Nexus 3 depending on where it goes and when.
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
Yea it does lol it performs like a beast but not comparative to the S2 I will be returning my nexus s
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
I'd take this over the 3d. HTC seems to always have battery issues with every phone, and I know they did with every phone I or a friend has had. Couple that with a locked down bootloader and this guy is going SGII (as long as the build quality is good).

Pocket posted...
[EVO 4G General] Vegasden:
There is no physical keyboard, the phone is just 0.33 inches thick (Evo is 0.47"). You just had to click the link in the first article and you get a full review of the phone:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Yes, it was the same way on the Galaxy S 1. Once it came to the US, each major carrier got a different version. Verizon/Us Cellular looked about identical with AT&T varying only a little.

As we know, the Sprint Epic 4G was the bastard child of the galaxy S line... horrible.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
I want the evo3d but not the 3d. And that sgsII is a beast

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] Jeff_in_LA:
I am 100% with you on this one. 3D on a phone is just silly. My son has the Nintendo 3DS - what a waste of resources. I am totally interested in the SII.

BTW the physical keyboard is a big plus in certain conditions. When using the phone landscape for data entry (ie a web form) it literally makes the phone twice as big. The on screen keyboard takes up at least 75% of the screen space. It can get very annoying. Also, it's much better for special characters, like programming and scripting symbols.
[EVO 4G General] King_tee:
The samsung is a beast....I just finished watching review videos on youtube and just from all the stuff that's on it you wont need root right away. Tell me if there's another phone on the market where you can change the color temps on the screen like a regular tv, while your watching a movie. That's nice.
[EVO 4G General] NYCguy2020:
+1

I just hope we get the Exynos version(I9100) with the Superamoled plus and not the Tegra2 variety(GT-I9103 )with SLCD screen.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
If its the tegra version with slcd its not worth it.

I dnt think battery life will be poor on the evo 3d. Big battery + the two cores can run at different speeds unlike tegra.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
I read that there have been GPS issues reported with the sgs2 much like the issues with the sgs1. Its stuff like this that makes me weary of Samsung. That and my wife's epic is garbage and Samsung has pulled the froyo update twice due to dissatisfying results. The E3D may be locked down, but at least I can count on it to work.

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[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Too bad you're not making millions, time for a new job.
[EVO 4G General] theinternot:
My sentiments exactly.
[EVO 4G General] helioXverse:
Not that this article is an official announcement, but it does state the cases will be interchangable between the three. I don't expect all three carriers will slap a keyboard on their new flagship devices.
[EVO 4G General] :
Oh please. If they don't change the design to something crappy, then this phone will be GREAT!!!
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Would have no problem waiting for this, so long as it doesn't get some form factor rehash. Unless, of course, it's a not too far off.

And I just clicked the link. A little late. =/

But judging by the case, it looks like it'd just be a changing of the branding. I'd be willing to give Samsung another shot.

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[EVO 4G General] josh995:
I read the opposite. I read that Samsung has fixed the GPS issue that plagued the Galaxy S... I would think they'd fix it if they want to sell ten million more! :p

We'll just have to wait and see if they fixed it or not!
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Only time will tell for sure. Due to samsungs history this would not be a day one purchase for me but, if I am dissatisfied with my E3D for any reason I will sell it for the sgs2, pending the sgs2 does not prove to be a typical Samsung...

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[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
I am getting the Within, no doubts about it. Its better than the 3D in every category, and unlocked bootloader. What's not to like?
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
Why the hell do US carriers want a different version of the same phone? They are the worst - I bet they are all planning on what crapware to load on the phones and how to delay updates.

Sell 1 phone, sell it across all carriers, and let users choose based on your network quality and pricing plans. How bloody hard is that?? Of course it'll never happen in this country because our govt and FCC has given a monopoly to carriers to abuse customers at will.

And this is bad for Samsung as it erodes their brand name. This is why Apple does well - its always just the iPhone, not Droid-X-crap.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Every category huh? How about the gpu?

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[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
From what I've read the cpu/gpu are comparable.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Everything about them is comparable. To say one is better than the other is just stupid, preference aside they are on the same level no matter how you look at it. Now anyone can prefer one over the other, but they are basically so similar in specs its a wash IMO.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Yeah, I guess I'm seeing mixed reports... I'm going to stop debating these two devices until they are both released and compared head to head.

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[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Yeah pretty sure I've seen multiple mentions of it being a non issue here. Will take a look, but first I gotta set the PS3 back up. ;)

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[EVO 4G General] mlin:
That's not necessarily true. While they both run 1.2GHz dual core CPUs, the GPUs aren't so similar. Samsung set the stage for gpu performance with their hummingbird processor but I've read their gpu doesn't outperform the hummingbird by much whereas qualcomm is reporting an almost 10 fold improvement in the adreno 220 with around 400 million triangulations per second. The hummingbird was 90 million.

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[EVO 4G General] r916:
GETTING THIS!!!

Sent from HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
So the evo 3d dump that was leaked today reveals a locked but not encrypted bootloader. Encryption is what people are concerned about, all HTC phones have had locked bootloaders. JSYK.

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[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
The Galaxy S II is thinner and lighter. Screen uses less battery and has better colors/contrast, but lower resolution, but after using both AMOLED and lcd there is no comparison. It has more memory and probably is going to cost the same as the 3D because it doesn't have the gimmicky 3d feature.

They are similar in specs but the Galaxy is objectively better. At least IMO.
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
Thanks, this was useful. Since I don't game too much, this will become relevant if Android at some point (maybe Ice Cream?) becomes gpu accelerated.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Have you used an slcd screen before? If so, how did it compare to AMOLED? I haven't seen one yet but i know its supposed to use 16M colors instead of 64k so that should vastly improve contrast. Like I said, I haven't used one so I can't say... I do know that even with the over saturation of colors on my wife's epic the screen still looks way better than my evo.

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[EVO 4G General] dhoshman:
+1 love my Evo 4g but im 99% sure im going with the sg2 unless

1. The release date is sometime in the fall.

2. It has a physical keyboard

3. The Evo 3d gets astonishing ratings from all pop tech sites.
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
I am comparing the screen on Samsung Focus with my Evo/Incredible etc. Who knows how the actual phones will turn out though, but the reviews all say AMOLED+ is amazing.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Its supposed to be the best in the industry, I know that much. I'm just curious about real world differences between it an slcd.

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[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
Until people had the chance to use the EVO 3D, I would view their opinions as a joke, when it comes to which is better. Both devices are beast, but the Galaxy S II import had more problems out the back, compared to a not 100% software ready EVO 3D device. My personal experience with both devices. Continue with the phone that's not out vs phone that's not out battle.
[EVO 4G General] Android 17:
While the Adreno 220 is definitely a beast, it still seems a little early to tell exactly how well the GPU in the SG2 will perform compared to it.

Just on the basis that the Hummingbird outperformed any prior HTC phones would lead me to believe it will be at the least very comparable, however.

Samsung also seems to be a little ahead of the curve compared to Qualcomm chips. The 3D will use a not-so new A8-cortex architecture processor (though more optimized) while the SG2 uses a more efficient A9 version.

Both phones will be beasts though and though I really want the EVO3D, the SG2 makes me question my future decision.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Yeah, I'm not making this information up. Its based on benchmarks and a statement from qualcomm. Scorpion is only loosely baaed on a8 from my understanding.

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[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Still, the Scorpion was created years ago.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Yeah, and my e36 m3 will smoke newer s4s. So what if its older, if its faster its faster. Period. Nonetheless, we were talking about the GPU anyway....

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[EVO 4G General] gman8966:
Can't wait for this to come out.
[EVO 4G General] Mark_in_Tulsa:
s4s?

But I do want a e36 M3 for a project car.
[EVO 4G General] Vegasrich:
Do we have an idea when this phone is coming out?
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Plural of Audi s4.

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