yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] Johnabis:
I agree, would love to see some quadrant benchmarks to compare against the Galaxys2
[HTC Sensation] sensesational:
where is Sjorge, he would run some benchmarks:mad:
[HTC Sensation] :
Well quadrant unless using quadrant advance won't matter.
[HTC Sensation] descb600f:
I see the IT at VF is no better than when I left 2 years ago.

I have a mail asking me to set up my on-line account but the first thing it asks for is my phone number which I have not been supplied with, spose I'll have to wait until I have the phone before I can do this.
[HTC Sensation] simacca:
Just received a 3rd email saying 'Your order is on it's way'.

My tracking code is still not being recognised by Parcel Force as of yet!
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
yes please upload a testvideo with voice recordet .... really wann see (hear) if the mic is really that bad !!!!!!
[HTC Sensation] sjgore:
Apologies for the delay guys, I've been setting up my new toy! :)

I ran Quadrant 10 times, subtracted the highest and lowest, and averaged the remaining 8 readings, which came out as 2245.

Will run Linpack and report back soon...
[HTC Sensation] Bratag:
Well its fast ... but not THAT fast. Not that I out a whole bunch of store in benchmarks.
[HTC Sensation] Johnabis:
So does that mean the galaxys2 is definitely more powerful? or no because I thought I read somewhere that do to the qhd resolution that it will give off a low score?
[HTC Sensation] xboarder56:
will you run smartbench 2011 also becuase its designed for multicore cpus
[HTC Sensation] Johnabis:
yeah I'm just trying to get a good comparison between the galaxys2 and this phone. so whatever benchmark that is best I want to see with both phones..
[HTC Sensation] sjgore:
Linpack results:

MFLOPS: 46.3

Time: 1.81
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Galaxy S2:

MFLOPS: 47.257

Time: 1.77 Seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WXgwCim_j4

So, not a large diff.
[HTC Sensation] Bratag:
To give people some comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WXgwCim_j4

EDIT: Doh great minds ... wish I could delete this.
[HTC Sensation] :
Quadrant doesn't use both cores need quadrant advance or smartbench. Remember the second core gets power gated if correct sg2 tegra 2 don't do that.
[HTC Sensation] kfgtboypsp:
Howz the speaker quality? Is it loud as the sgs2? Or is it the same as the DHD?
[HTC Sensation] Paten:
Could someone post a clear image of the specs on the back of the box? I just want to verify which specs are on the Vodafone device. Their website is showing different specs then the HTC website.
[HTC Sensation] simacca:
Come on Parcel Force ffs, scan my poxy phone and put me out of my misery!!!!
[HTC Sensation] Trekest:
I'm not sure if I understood what you've said thoroughly, so please correct me if I'm wrong:

What you're saying is that the seemingly "low" result is due to the a-synchronous core-speed throttling (as opposed to other dual-core chips) and due to Quadrant not really being optimized for more than one core?

Running on the same resolution, the Atrix scored 2750 (without the second core throttle).

According to GSMArena, the arch-nemesis S2 got 3467. Considering the lower pixel count, multiplying this result by 0.741 (ratio between pixel counts) gets you 2568, which puts it just slightly above the Sensation.

For the sake of comparison, for when a SmartBench 2011 result would be posted, the S2 scored 3729 in Productivity and 2260 in Gaming.

Man, I hope I made the right call pre-ordering this one Sim-Free...
[HTC Sensation] simacca:
The Motorola Atrix uses an LCD Pentile Matrix display which has a lower pixel count. Don't know if this will make any difference to the results though, but in theory it should.

BTW, I hope the Sensation doesn't use this type of display?

P.S. My order can now be tracked and is 'in progress'. Hooray!!
[HTC Sensation] solsearch:
Well yes, theoretically if it is not optimized for dual-cores then the scenario is as follows:

Tegra2- core1 gets pushed to the max so core2 is running at max as well, ergo it is easier to see the performance at max

8x60- core 1 gets pushed to the max, but not core 2, so core 2 just sits back and watches core 1 do all the work while it reads the Sunday funnies.

This is why it has to be optimized for dual-core performance for a benchmark test to provide accurate results. I am not saying the results weren't accurant and as you said there's the screen resolution to consider, the possible impact of Sense 3.0 (if HTC is right and the previous gen phones can't handle it then maybe it is resource hungry enough to impact benchmarks). But as it is the score isn't bad and a marked improvement over preliminary Pyramid benchmarks and the Linpack is close to the S2. And remember, the S2 was overclocked, while technically the Sensation is underclocked.

BTW: With which seller did you pre-order? As I don't normally make purchases online I don't know which sites are trustworthy.

Simacca has a point, the pentile display might theoretically impact the benchmarks as well, and no, the Sensation uses RGB from what I understand rather than any pentile variant.
[HTC Sensation] freedirk:
I have been checking in on this forum for a few days now, looking for signs of delays. Am pleased to see this is out now.

I am an HD2 user, and have loved the experience. Probably one of the few lamenting the passing of WM6.5, with cookies home tab over sense. I am a little worried about the locked boot loader, but have faith people much smarter than me will figure it out. Nothing is unbeatable.

I am not sure however to take the results of the bench marking. So many different opinions, i simply want to know does itdo what it says what it does on the tin? Full 1080p video recording, instant camera response and fluid muli tasking. If it does this, I have no doubt everything else will follow, I am patient.

I wont have the samsung, too plastic, too old a processor. The sensation seem s like the most future proof. And when it isnt, it will certsinly have been cracked, backed and sacked by the devs anyway.
[HTC Sensation] :
Tegra2 and I believe Samsung galaxy 2 processor are synchronized at all times. HTC processors are not they run on separate CPU clocks and separate voltages at all time. What I'm thinking is that once the first processor reaches a certain stress level the second core will than begin to start to take off the stress of the other processor. Be honest it's a good way to save battery life if that HTC was thinking.
[HTC Sensation] ronijs19:
yes. read : http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...-cpu-and-gpu-chipsets-coming-later-this-year/
[HTC Sensation] sjgore:
Ignoring the first result, then averaging the next 5, the SmartBench 2011 result is 2232.
[HTC Sensation] :
Thanks yep Im thinking it activate under certain stress conditions I'm the system. I don't have mines not till June 8 to test. Pretty sure HTC did this as to save battery. Unless that single core hits certain voltages or clocks. Depending on the demand of the task the second one wont trigger. Good way to reduce significant stress on the system.
[HTC Sensation] Trekest:
Ordered mine from Handtec, though the general consensus amongst my friends is that Clove is a better retailer.

@sjgore: Is that the Productivity or Gaming score? What's the other one? Also, I can't remember if SmartBench shows FPS figures while running. If it does - can you please share with us the average? Being rude and intrusive, I know, and I'm sorry about that. I'm just very curious :)
[HTC Sensation] solsearch:
Thanks Trekest

@sjgore

could you also possibly test file format/codec support? The Desire S could play mkv according to gsmarena though it's not mentioned on the official specs (gsmarena said half played without sound but I'm guessing that's due to AC3 in those files vs. AAC).

It'd be nice to see just how much of a multi-media phone this is :)

I too apologize for asking so much, but so far you're the only source for real hands-on information. I am sure ALL here appreciate it =)
[HTC Sensation] jonnyfivealive:
I only ask for a video of you using it but if you can't do that give it your opinion of the device as a whole. Did you have buyer's remorse.
[HTC Sensation] xboarder56:
sjgore any chance of screen shots or a video (thanks man)
[HTC Sensation] Johnabis:
yeah I'm hoping thats the games score not the productivity score. please specify.
[HTC Sensation] Sofly999:
@sjgore

Thanks for everything you did so far :)
[HTC Sensation] Omicron90:
Just got my dispatch email. 40 minutes past midnight wasn't exactly what I was expecting, but hey I'm happy all the same!
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
Dispatch email here too. I know Vodafone do dispatch very late at night, so was kind of expecting it :D
[HTC Sensation] Jimmy Flip:
Has anyone been able to determine if it's UMTS HSDPA 850/1900/2100?

That's what it says on the Voda UK website but it seems unusual for a phone sold in the UK.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Isn't the UK SGS2 UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100?
[HTC Sensation] Jimmy Flip:
Yes, it does and that's unusual too. I don't think you'll find another Android phone that supports both UMTS 850 and 900. But almost all phones sold in the UK, including the SGSII, support at least UMTS 900 and 2100. That's why I was questioning Voda's Sensation specs. Also, because they are different to HTC's own specs for the Sensation which are UMTS 900 / AWS / 2100:

http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html
[HTC Sensation] sjgore:
I'm afraid that was the productivity score. Gaming score has come out at 1639.

The most annoying thing about the phone so far is that it keeps dropping the WiFi connection, even whilst the screen is on. I've just found an option called "Best WiFi Performance" in Advanced options so I'll see if that makes any difference.

I'm also now using ADWLauncher.EX instead of Sense 3.0. Much faster and more responsive. Sense 3.0 lags a bit and isn't very smooth. Not much though, just compared to other launchers. Plus, using ADWLauncher.EX means I can have a transparent app drawer and hide lots of icons that I never use. I still seem to have the Sense lockscreen, though.

Very impressed with the browser. Very fast, smooth, and responsive.

It's 3am here now, I'll try and post some photos in the morning before work.
[HTC Sensation] bioheart:
thanks for the tests, man, and how is the earpiece working, i mean the one on the phone, compared with desire HD?
[HTC Sensation] Bratag:
Thats not what I was hoping for it has to be said. Its strange because linpack is essentially just a test of raw cpu ability to process equations and it comes out very close the the SG II. But in all these benches its not even close. Benches suck as an indicator I admit , but was thinking they would be closer.
[HTC Sensation] jRi0T68:
Can you comment on how audio quality and loudness is with headphones?
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
i think that the difference in the sync in the cpus has a lot to do with the big differences... i am still getting the phone regardless
[HTC Sensation] apple4005:
Is the Sensation a finer resolution than desire hd？Des the display of sensation use the pentile？
[HTC Sensation] ijatbenny:
I'm the only one that disappointed to hear this? I waiting so long since the first preview of this phone and now i have been let down by htc. Why htc need to signed the bootloader of the phone? I know it will crack some time later but i will not support the manufacture that do it just like motorola. Htc should follow Sony Ericsson or samsung in term of support of bootloader....

signed bootloader

weak wifi

lagging gallery( worst then stock android??)

keyboard lacks the punch

animation not smooth

poor audio recording in video

weak benchmark score( why it not par as SGS2 although with the same clock? i know benchmark don't show the real performance in real life, but something not right here---ex:- lagging in gallery and sense 3.0 animation)

Also, when entering the camera, there was a noticeable distortion of the image. A kind of white haze moving quickly across the screen in vertical bars. I don't know whether this is a screen issue, a camera issue, or something to be expected though.----from craigio86 (maybe defect model??)

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the list go on, this is just quick preview from 2 users, i don't how the list goes on

I'm now using htc desire hd, don't get me wrong, i love htc for it feel and look, but at this rate, i think i need to switch to other phone maker for my next phone, i can see samsung galaxy s2 really beat htc sensation, i wish it have a premium quality just what htc phone and sense 3.0, oh man, i don't have other choice...

sorry for my english
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
HTC just release another build for Sensation maybe it'll solve the wifi issue, plus that tell me someone from the inside will release backdoor for us to hack the bootloader.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
shhh... now its gonna be harder for them to do it and not loose their job.. anyway these benchmarks are pointless the sensation has completely different architecture that we are not used to let someone actually own the phone and re write the benchmark tools to actually make the dual cores work then we will see what the phone is capable of. im not side tracked by these benchmarks and initial reviews. i have my reasons
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Yeah, I have know idea why people keep comparing benchmark it mean nothing to me. Over at the SGII thread theirs alot more problems then us. WiFi and lock bootloader? LMAO you guys should check out SGII thread hehe
[HTC Sensation] bioheart:
so you mean all are bad news. but is the sgsII much better? and how is the build quality between the two?

ah, i feel catch in a dilema.
[HTC Sensation] :
Not only would they lose their job HTC can actually pursue legal action against them. The new build was to fix the problems most likely
[HTC Sensation] Bratag:
Oh I have believe me I have. What bothers me more than the benchmarks is the comments about the camera, wifi, thumbnails and lag in sense 3.0. In a phone this high end that kind of thing just shouldn't be happening.

Who knows maybe its just a couple of bad units, but it sure as hell doesn't bode well when two of the only people who have the phone here both post several negatives the day of receipt.
[HTC Sensation] :
Wait till more units circulate so we know if it's bad or not HTC usually doesn't have major defects in their device. Once more people have it we can get a good impression.
[HTC Sensation] Bratag:
Well I can't get my hands on one till June 8th (yay crappy US telcos) and the release date for our version of the SG II is between now and when hell freezes over (my guess is holiday season) so I will be watching the reviews closely. I need a new phone and either the sensation pulls up its socks and comes through or I guess I will be dropping a crap load of cash for a SG II from clove.

Yes the SGII has issues but the simple fact is its still a hell of a phone. (if you get one thats not crap :))
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
until i see an unboxing i will make my own judgments as to what is going on with the phone i most certainly would have been one of those people that made the video of my journey to the store, the actual purchase, and then the unboxing and etc.. if i was one of the first to own the much awaited phone.
[HTC Sensation] bjones4:
My Sensation made it from West London yesterday to Rotherham overnight and it's just been delivered at 0813.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
bjones unbox and give us the bad news... please
[HTC Sensation] nintendolinky:
Can you check to see if its locked to vodafone pls.
[HTC Sensation] sjgore:
I've posted some pictures in a new thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1088170
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jake21:
Whenever I start the browser it sez google is auto login due to security setting. But for the life of me I cannot figure out how to disable this; this is mostly a security issue when using a public network. Also not sure there is any benefit for google to auto login when using the browser (is there ?)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nsstrunks:
Yeah this was annoying for me as well since I never use the feature. You can turn it off by going to Menu (top right button in the corner of the browser) > Settings > Privacy and Security > Automatic Google Sign-in (forth option).

There you can select which account to sign-in to, or to no account at all.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mllk:
go to: settings > private & security > automatic google sign-in and then disable it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jake21:
Hum. I see and I see why i missed it. Unlike the others it is not a simple check box (I thought it was disabled since there was no green check mark). Oh well I guess I'm kind of dense these days. Thanks !
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MuFuko:
and what is if i miss this option? i have the aconia but find this trough the search. is there any way?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NuckinFutz:
Is this firmware super old?

Kies is still not letting me update it and I'm in a position where I might have to send the handset back so a bit nervous about flashing using Odin.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Latest is XWKE2 but that does not mean its the latest for your phones product code that depends upon supplier .

Using Odin may invalidate your warranty and more to the point may be very obvious to the service centre that the firmware is not the one they issue .

Odin firmware = Samsung stock Samsung will repair .

Kies firmware = Phone providers custom firmware .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NuckinFutz:
Baseband version is I9100XXKDH......most of the ones I've seen are KDJ. I got the phone from Buymobilephones.net and I believe is unlocked.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okarr:
is there a way to restart the kies sync without having to unplug and replug the cable?

simply restarting the MBT application doesnt seem to do the trick.

I am sure i am missing some thing really obvious.

tried google and forum search but to no avail.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StarLog:
QUESTIONS GO IN THE Q&A SECTION OF THIS FORUM.

DAMN can't people read anymore.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okarr:
alright alright, chill.

gees.

mod, please delete this thread.
[Xoom General] Dumdidum:
Hello

Does anyone use Microsoft Exchange Online Services (BPOS) successfully with Honeycomb?

Thanks
[Xoom General] hdtvpower:
yes, me.

Works flawlessly

hdtvpower
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roharia:
I'm currently on the Atrix 4g on AT&T and this phone is lookking pretty awesome to me (SGS2). Im wondering if I should get the SGS2 under my moms upgrade? Things that matter to me most

Speed

Battery

Screen

Crapware
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsaintzx:
Yes you will get the best speed and screen.

But sorry, I think Atrix battery is better, since it's 1920mah.

Crapware, yes they exist but you can always remove it after you root.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
this phone in only available unlocked right now, so you cant get it on upgrade with ATT. rumor is its coming later this year, but no details yet.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ikarma:
It seems that Rom Manager wants to use internal storage but recovery wants to use my external SD card. When I back up my phone from Rom Manager it reboots into CWM and backs it up on the SD card. When I go back into Rom Manager to manage backups it doesn't see it because its looking in the internal storage. If I download a rom from Rom Manager it downloads it to internal storage and when it reboots to CWM it can't find the rom because its not on the SD card.

What am I doing wrong? How do I get this to work properly?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] slinky1914:
I am experiencing the same exact problem. I can not download roms to the external SD. It a freaking hassle to download and flash a rom on this phone. Any help is appreciated.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ikarma:
I am not even sure I can flash a rom with it. The couple times I tried it failed because I chose the rom through the /externalSD directory and thats linked from within the internal storage.

How is everyone else using it?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] btate0121:
I copy the files from the internal and put them in the same directory on the SD card. For example the folder internally is /sdcard/clockworkmod.. i just move that directory to /sdcard/_externalsd/clockworkmod

that way when you reboot everything is already work CM is naturally looking for it. Yes.. it's a pain.

Alternatively.. when I had my G2 i got into the habit of just moving the roms to the root of the sdcard so it was easier to flash right from cwm (I rarely flash via rom manager). Nandroid backups HAVE to stay in the backup folder in the clockwork directory tho.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] slinky1914:
I found out with boat browser mini I set the download dir to /mnt /sdcard/_ExternalSD and my roms actually download to the root of my SD without errors. That's a start its a lot easier than hooking up to a computer and moving stuff around

Sent From from my G2X
[T-Mobile LG G2x] schmit:
It seems that this would be a normal feature to come with such a product. It makes more sense to have access to the ext. sd card than not.

Maybe there is a very good reason for it? I.e. It can't be done?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] pa64:
Same here.

This is a bit of a pain.

Instead of moving backup files across, I restore directly from the recovery screen.

As for ROMs I have to download them directly from my laptop and copy them the external SD card.

Not good.
[General Questions and Answers] brww21:
Hello can't get to xrecovery menu but don't know why can u help me?

I rooted my phone , installed busybox , xrecovery and root explore but can't get to xrecovery menu :( .
[General Questions and Answers] shahkam:
Re install busybox version 1.7 and re install xrecovery should work.
[General Questions and Answers] brww21:
I reinstalled em but same problem.

btw my phone is xperia x8
[General Questions and Answers] brww21:
nobody knows?
[General Questions and Answers] aloy99:
1. Make sure you press the back button right after the text 'Sony Ericsson' appears on the screen, and not when the logo appears.

2.If all else fails, check that you have transferred the correct 3 files (chargemon, xrecovery.tar and busybox) from the compressed file to system/bin via root explorer.
[General Questions and Answers] brww21:
that files are copied at system/bin and still don't work :(
[Xperia Arc Themes and Apps] Robin882:
Just made these 2 PC wallpapers last night! Hope you like them!

I hope this is the right place to post this!
[Xperia Arc Themes and Apps] festa20:
What exactly is this
[Xperia Arc Themes and Apps] Robin882:
Sorry, I updated the first post! :)
[Xperia Arc Themes and Apps] KQ17:
At least, mark in your first post that the site that hosts the images is NSFW...
[Xperia Arc Themes and Apps] Robin882:
Sorry I didnt know the site contained that kind of stuff. I have adblock plugin, so I couldnt see that. I removed the image now :)
[Xperia Arc Themes and Apps] Retrosid:
Thanks for the wallpaper!
[Xperia Arc Themes and Apps] Mano1982:
Awesome wallpaper :) Loved it..
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gdjackychen:
as title. how to?

attachments I bought OEM DOCK. But into the phone, will not load the desktop.

the ome dock just $10.77:)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zen kun:
Check others threads you can use weptop hack to launch it even using oem dock

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Sent from my loved atrix ;D
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gdjackychen:
here....................
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rayan:
I haven't tried the desktop hack, but judging from the pictures, that cradle will not work for that, only for charging and data transfer.

The original dock has two connectors, one for data and charge and the other for hdmi output.

This one has only data/charge connector.

Cheers

- Sent from my ATRIX 4G using XDA app -
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] j4n87:
deleted .
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] klusek1985:
Finally ! That bug was very annoying to me.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] kackburt:
I'll try the fix asap, thanks a lot!

e: works like a charm!