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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pnnorth:
Yes, you can delete them. I get them occasionally but it's just the odd one or two.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] highlandsun:
OK, so for some reason our builds happen to be hardcoded with a UserAgent Profile pointing to http://www.google.com/oha/rdf/ua-profile-kila.xml. This is reported to the MMS server whenever our MMS client tries to download something, it's stuck in the x-wap-profile: header of the HTTP request.

If you read thru that file you'll see that it's the spec for a Samsung SGH-T429 with 320x480 screen. While looking into MMS receive issues on Sprint we discovered that the MMS server actually reads these profiles, and sizes the output that it sends you based on these profiles. So even if your buddy sends you a nice high-rez photo by MMS, when you receive it, it will be scaled down to 320x480.

[edit: that's not quite true. I think this only affects the size of the image as presented in the Messaging app. The actual attachment is whatever size was originally sent. Of course, most media is scaled down for sending anyway.]

We checked to see what profile the Sprint RHOD400 was sending under Winmo and found this http://device.sprintpcs.com/HTC/PPCTP7380SP/2046514.rdf which seems to have the correct screen dimensions. (I can't seem to download it now though.)

I also checked to see what my phone was using with T-Mobile, and got this

http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/RhodiumMR-1.0.xml which also has the right stuff, but a lot of winmo-specific details too. It seems to me that we're going to need to patch the framework to make this profile URL a settable property instead of hardcoding it like it's currently done, to get the most out of MMS.

We should probably start taking an inventory of profiles that are in use on all the MSM devices. In Winmo you can find them in the registry at HKLM\Software\Jataayu\MMS\SP - according to this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=795343

For example, here's the request for a Sprint RHOD400:

GET /?msgid=XXX&userId=YYY HTTP/1.1
Accept: */*, application/vnd.wap.mms-message, application/vnd.wap.sic
x-wap-profile: http://device.sprintpcs.com/HTC/PPCTP7380SP/2046514.rdf
Accept-Language: en-US
Host: mms.sprintpcs.com:80
Connection: Keep-Alive
User-Agent: T7380

Here's the request all of our phones are currently using to retrieve MMSs:

GET /?msgid=XXX&userId=YYY HTTP/1.1
Accept: */*, application/vnd.wap.mms-message, application/vnd.wap.sic
x-wap-profile: http://www.google.com/oha/rdf/ua-profile-kila.xml
Accept-Language: en-US
Host: mms.sprintpcs.com:80
Connection: Keep-Alive
User-Agent: Android-Mms/2.0
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tomdeaap:
I've got this one in the registry:

http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/HTC_Touch_Pro2_T7373-1.0.xml

( Rhod100 / AUO )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Raa_1:
Mine reads:

http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/HTC_Touch_Pro2_T7381-1.0.xml

Also worth noting it was in the registry key:

HKLM\Software\SIE\AutoVer\Opera\User Prefs

and HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] highlandsun:
What model RHOD is that?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BoominSVX:
This was a setup.xml I made for people running custom roms on boost mobile. Everything should be the same for sprint except the "pcs-boost-mmsc" server address. Maybe helpful?

I changed it to .txt for posting. It seems to be the same that you have.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slickdaddy96:
I know this is probably way to early to be asking this, but I have a Rhod400, where can I input this info (into what file or terminal emulator?) so that I can get MMS working on my phone so I can test it until the patch is ready for the public?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
Kinks are being worked out, to my knowledge nothing usable has surfaced yet. Sending works like a champ with the new RIL, and reception works - just gives a useless download link. Trying to make that link work, is what we're trying to do!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AkumaX:
I appreciate all the work that you've been doing, and especially for Sprint (even though you're on a GSM device :P).

That site doesn't hit (I was hoping it was user-agent dependent, but it didn't work on my phone either).

Also, this thread (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-pro-2/101286-native-htc-messaging-mms-fix-collaboration-31.html) says that there's no 1st P in the PPCT7380SP string, so it looks like http://device.sprintpcs.com/HTC/PPCT7380SP/%CDMA_ROM_VERSION%.rdf. Is anyone else able to download this .rdf file?

edit: and the 2046514 corresponds to the ROM version (found in Device Information/Software), which (for me at least) is 2.04.651.4
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eww245:
I don't get the download button on my RHOD500. Well it's there for a split second then downloads on it's own. Originally set the APN before all the ril changes so after setting the carrier ID it just worked with the new ril.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rpierce99:
Wait so Verizon CDMA MMS works?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manekineko:
If I'm not mistaken, Verizon has been working ever since highlandsun's amazing work on the RIL originally.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rpierce99:
If that's the case I really need a kind verizon user to provide me a download link for a MMS attachment. It's in mmssms.db, probably easiest for that person to hop on IRC so we can chat about it. Basically I need to figure out what is different about the Sprint payload than the Verizon payload to see why Sprint doesn't work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eww245:
For me yes, no issues at all :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] highlandsun:
rpierce99: you didn't get my note on IRC I guess. I'm pretty sure the attachment isn't the problem; pretty sure the problem is the original SMS PDU. You can grab that from the radio logcat when the MMS arrives. Decoding it is a bit more of a hassle; my code in the RIL only decodes the first 6 headers then passes the rest to Android to decode. Get me a sample PDU from your radio log...

I take that back. Now I see what the parser is doing...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eww245:
Is this what you need?

The pdu table has some other info but connectbot isn't being nice
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] highlandsun:
Sprint MMS receive is now working.

Yes, thanks. But I don't need it now, already got a copy.

We actually identified the problem several days ago, there's even a fix for it already in the Gingerbread source tree. But backporting the fix to Froyo was messy. I've now made a new fix that applies cleanly to Froyo and doesn't rely on the stupid compile-time settings that Google's fix uses. rpierce99 helped to verify that it works.

Basically the MMS server software that Sprint uses is mis-formatting what it sends out. The official specification for MMS/WAP says to do one thing, Sprint's MMS server does something completely different / wrong. The Android MMS parser would just die with an exception when trying to parse these things. The fix makes it ignore the improper header. There are other things that Sprint's server does that are also questionable. Even with this fix, if you want someone to send you an image or video in an MMS, make sure they don't type any text into the message body, otherwise it will still arrive messed up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] highlandsun:
OK, the issues with displaying MMS image+text messages are resolved now too. And I've made the uaProfURL a settable property in case you want to override the compiled-in setting. set the ro.product.uaprofurl property to the URL you want to use.

Of course, you need to be running my patches to the Mms.apk for this to work. The source code is here https://gitorious.org/hycdroid/packages_apps_mms/commits/froyo

Full description of the Sprint bugs and the fixes: http://lists.xdandroid.com/pipermail/xdandroid-dev/2011-May/000288.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ryannathans:
So what was the initial problem here?

*scratches head*

MMS always physically worked fine for me. (your RIL)

Was it just an issue displaying the contents I never picked up on or...?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
Did you read his post? It's a Sprint-only issue. Always was (after his RIL).

Might want to look at this section of his post...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ryannathans:
/facepalm...

Had a few late nights and unknowingly started reading from page 2.

:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] highlandsun:
The wonderful irony now is that Sprint MMS now works perfectly here, but Winmo users still can't get it reliably. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pdawg17:
Is there a way to run the fix now or will it just be in the next update?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
I'm workin mah contacts @ Sprint... gonna see if we can get this resolved on the server-side, or if there's another MMSC we should be using...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slickdaddy96:
Ok, quick question here. I am using Sprint, do I just take highlandsun's gitorious tar.gz file for the sprint fix and put that in my directory with haret, and haret unzips and merges the file system to patch the MMS issue?

I am running his FRX06+, so I am assuming that it includes the patches for the mms.apk.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
His FRX06+ I don't think has the mms.apk patches yet.

You'll also need an updated framework.jar - the gitorious stuff is the source code...

Doing my best to refrain from other comments, you obviously didn't read.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slickdaddy96:
Fine great the patch isn't in it. The Sprint fix page he gave lists two links:

https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/frameworks_base/merge_requests/3

&

https://gitorious.org/hycdroid/packages_apps_mms/commits/froyo

He says in the instructions that I did read that the patches are there. I obvious have no clue where to find the download on anything in the gitorious.org website, and i will fully admit that. The only download I ever see is the "download as tar.gz". It is not that I am not reading directions, it is just that the gitorious website in my opinion is very un-download friendly since I am missing where the links are to download the patches obviously.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
I guess you're still not getting it.

Gitorious is for source code. No binaries are on gitorious.

Edit - the binaries should be on his site.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Raa_1:
Sorry, realised you asked for Sprint phones.

Mine's a Telstra issued device. Whoops!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slickdaddy96:
Yeah I get that now thanks. Found the Mms.apk by searching in google. This search in this forum is horrible, because if I was to search mms.apk it shows a billion posts that have nothing to do with what I want.

I still can't get the APN to save. Using his build my MCC=00, no matter what I change on a new APN it will not save for the MMS apn. I've got data and voice using FRX06+, and I patched everything (I think everything, phone.apk, framework.jar, and mms.apk that I found on his website from an IRC chat referring to it.)

It should theoretically save the APN and show it, but it is still rejecting it... I even tried downloading APN Manager from the market and set up a APN using the 310/120 MNC/MCC along with the MMSC and I make it active on that app, but it won't show up in the Android APN window, nor will it send or receive MMS's.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AkumaX:
this with new data.img?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slickdaddy96:
Yeah, but I gave up on just patching my old build. I discovered highlandsun FRX06+ read the directions and got it up and running with data. I will have to say it is the best/fastest build I have ever run.

From what Arghhh says, the mms.apk wasn't patched yet, nor do I think the phone.apk nor framework.jar was patched either, but there is no history for that build since it is his personal build, and he is not going to answer questions on it I don't believe. So I am assuming based on what Arghhh says that I needed to patch those things still.

So supposedly I am patched and good to go, I just need to add the APN for Sprint MMS, and that is where I run into the roadblock of it not taking and disappearing. I never lose internet, just never can get the APN to save/show up. Supposedly on his build there is no need for a local.prop file to change things because it is built into his build. I am sure I am missing something here, but google searches and these forum searches have found nothing useful so far in keeping the APN showing up, other than that I may not have settings correct if it deletes/hides it. Although I haven't messed with any settings from his FRX06+, so it should work but doesn't :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AkumaX:
who's zimage/modules/rootfs are you using? did you use muziling's phone.apk?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
His build has the modified phone.apk stuff. Just not the newest MMS stuff - the framework.jar & Mms.apk...

At any rate, might just be best to wait. Lots of stuff needs to be integrated, and right now if you want all the newest, you'll end up with a big ball of duct tape.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slickdaddy96:
I am using everything Highlands, modules, zimage, rootfs. I did replug the phone.apk and framework.jar files but that seems like that wouldn't matter since Arghhh says it is already patched, so I just replaced the same file. I will keep messing with it, but I don't have high hopes, seems that a lot of people on a lot of Android devices have issues with disapearing APN's.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rpierce99:
You obviously have a working APN if you have data, why aren't you just editing your working APN to add the MMSC, you don't need to have 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
Indeed, I just modified the existing APN. MMS works great... if the message is sent with a picture AND text it gets a little funky, but it turns out that's Sprint's fault, not our port.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slickdaddy96:
Weird cause I got nothing showing up in my APN's to modify. If I reset to defaults I was worried about screwing up working data, but if I am afraid if I then try to modify the default it is just going to disapear like they have been doing when I have modified or added one prieviously.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rpierce99:
They only disappear when they don't match the MNC/MCC that the RIL is using, which in the case of hycs ril is pulling it from the radio and in almost all cases on sprint it is 310/00. You won't even touch that in setting the MMSC in your current APN. If you don't like the APN editor you can do it from telephony.db but you're way more likely to screw it up there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slickdaddy96:
Hmm, see I thought sprint was 310/120 or at least that is what everyone is saying around here. I created one with the default being 310/00 and the proper sprint mms MMSC, and it still doesn't send nor receive MMS's. If I set it to 310/120 it will disappear. I think hyc's build automatically has data working without any APN showing up in the APN builder, but he did say that if you wanted MMS, you had to set one up, so the fact that I have data running is due to his build specifically doing that I believe. I will look at teh telephony.db and see if I want to mess with that or not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
CDMA doesn't actually use APN's. We're just using them as a front-end to setup MMS...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slickdaddy96:
Ok I got send to work, but while receive gets themessage when clicking download, it won't download. My sending issue was handcentsms app doesn't work sending out MMS for some reason, or that is what I gathered from people using native android phones.

I thought I got the patched mms.apk file from hyc's website where I found him linking it in a chat log, but obviously I must have the wrong file. Can someone kindly point me the link where I can download an actual patched mms.apk file? I could not find it except for the one I downloaded which evidently is not correct if I am still not able to download.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rpierce99:
The download link fix is not in Mms.apk, it's in framework.jar, same location.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slickdaddy96:
Nevermind I read through the rest of the irclog. Really appreciate both you and Arghhh bashing me "failing at life" type comments on there, and voting against sending me the link which was the thing I was asking for the whole dang time. Thanks for wasting my time people.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ryannathans:
Sound pretty mad bro. :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] muziling:
can rhod400 set ro.product.uaprofurl=http://www.htcmms.com.tw/voda/HTC_Touch_Pro2-1.0.xml?

Or can we save this file to phone, then set ro.product.uaprofurl=/system/etc/HTC_Touch_Pro2-1.0.xml ?

Not sprint carrier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] highlandsun:
You can set it to whatever URL you like.

Keep in mind though, that the profile lists both physical aspects of the device (which are independent of the OS) as well as functional aspects (which depend on the OS). Really we need to take a profile from a native Android phone and combine it with the physical details from the HTC profile to get a really good profile. Maybe host the results on xdandroid.com ...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] muziling:
From http://www.uaprof.com/HTC/

http://www.google.com/oha/rdf/ua-profile-kila.xml HTC_Incredible

http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/HTC_Touch_Pro2_T7373-1.0.xml

So, we can fake as Incredible for mms?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
Perhaps I'm jumping into something I don't understand, but why can't you just set the MMSC on the APN? I guess I don't get why you are mucking with the uaprofurl...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rpierce99:
UAPROF tells the MMS server what the capability of your phone is, so if you have a dumbphone with a 120x120 screen, it scales down the image for your device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
Ah, so I don't know what I'm talking about. Thanks ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] nerys71:
Sorry replied to wrong thread
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dany547:
hi guys,any of you has an ideea how can i fix my QWERTY kaybord? the FN is not working right,when i press FN+D lets say,sometimes it gives me a 7 and if i press 2 times FN it starts to write the letters as CAP would be on...and the FN an CAPs lights are going crazy.The registry tweak is not working!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dany547:
i'ved found this(see below) and now works just fine
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dany547:
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[Fascinate Themes and Apps] benfikaman:
Available today for free on Amazon app store, good alternative to swype.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] justin94:
I got it too. I'm thinking its the best keyboardyet

I've been KANGBANGED!!!!!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] DarthCivicus:
I actually like this better then swipe, it's way more accurate!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] DarthCivicus:
Just need it themed now!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] MSHancock:
nice find. Thanks for shareing.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
the problem is that if it reverts to a paid app, it cant be themed and distributed on xda (or any forum really)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] doctorj1:
good find, gonna give this a try
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] MSHancock:
Plus we really dont need to change everything
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] drnihili:
Assuming it uses a similar png system to Swype, couldn't it be themed via metamorph? I know there are issues with distributing the Swype apk, could the same work around be done here?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] chefthomas99:
It is a paid app on android marketplace...
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] benfikaman:
Yup I feel it's also more accurate, no problem sharing guys happy to give a heads up
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Ianxcom:
Isn't it the new name for shapewriter? I think its by the same maker.or the company who bought shapewriter.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] hazard666:
Really liking this keyboard but damn is it ugly.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] ExNight:
Ever hear of metamorph?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
Metamsorph fine...straight theming the apk not as much
[General Questions and Answers] aget1:
I am one of the donkey in a small company working to develop our first android tablet with dual screen.

S\dince this will be our first flagship android device, we would like to make sure our device match the needs of our future customer.

It will be a 7" dual screen device as title stated.

The machine is planned to be

- Dual core CPU, for instance by Samsung

- 512MB DDR3 and 1GB SLC

- dual touch on both screen

- swappable battery

- back-flipping screen

- 5/8Mpixel camera and 720p camcoder

- target to sell around 450usd

- target to weight 700g less

We love to hear from our customer, as we did for all our other products. Please feel free to comment, or simply kick my ass if you totally disagree with the concept, we are more than happy to have our ass kicked in order to prevent making a device no one will buy.
[General Questions and Answers] Korstovor:
Is it two 7 inch screens? Or two 3.5 inch screens?

Does it close in the same way as the DS, so both screens are facing each other?

Could be a great concept. A tablet that fits in your pocket.
[General Questions and Answers] aget1:
it should be 2 7" screen, we take consideration of cost, weight, and usability, since it is a 360 back-flipping machine, there is no concept of "closing" it, it can be both facing in, or both facing out.
[General Questions and Answers] Korstovor:
Sorry folks if it's just me being particularly dumb. But I'm not getting it.

It it like the screen on the Dell Inspiron Duo? Are the screens on a swivel so one can face the back?

Have you got a link to something similar?
[General Questions and Answers] DPMAce:
love the idea. That price range would be perfect too. I would be looking for one that can make phone calls too.

Being able to make phone calls is the deal breaker for me. Don't know why more tablets can do this.

And your device should be 8mp at least. 5 is too little for a high end device now a days.
[General Questions and Answers] kylelipp:
Personally I love this idea!

If you have to cut corners, cut on the camera. 5/8 mp on a dualscreen tablet is not necessary at all. Take the iPad route to save money, go with a cheaper camera.
[General Questions and Answers] hookguy:
Some phones have more RAM than 512MB, so if this is a tablet ideally youd want more than that
[General Questions and Answers] aget1:
Thanks a lot for the reply.

Seems there is no similar one in the market. Think of a door that can be push or pull 360 degree.

A 5MP is costing less then the dual core, but 8MP seems out of budget, we can even support up to 12MP, but the point is the image quality.

Yes it has 3G, HSPA+, can dial, as a speaker phone, and connects to headset. We are trying to make a all in one tablet for sure.

We think 512MB suits the current needs, considering my X10i has never less than 80MB free. More ram means more current draw.
[General Questions and Answers] dquille:
Not knocking the idea, I'm just interested if anyone has any ideas on what uses a dual screen device like this would have? Smaller size for mobility is one, but I'm looking for usage ideas. How would you use the two screens effectively/differently than a single screen?
[General Questions and Answers] ZAIGHAM ALI:
Watching a video on one screen, while doing something productive on the other, would that be possible?