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[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makken85:
Thanks for that;

I actually went ahead and used that method in the guide since upon further research, it seems that visonary was only causing issues when it was use for perm root; temp root, which is what that method uses visionary for seems to work fine.

So did that, reboot into the bootloader, confirmed that I had S-OFF on the first line.

Installed ROM manager from the market

Flashed Clockwork recovery

Booted into recovery and did a system backup to SD card

Rebooted and decided to download the Virtuous ROM from ROM manager

Told it to reboot into recovery and flash that image, wiping all data and settings

Got stuck on an bootup loop (HTC logo + start up sound -> black screen -> HTC logo + startup sound ad infinitum) :(

Rebooted into recovery, and did a restore from the backup (whew)

Phone seems to be working fine now

Now I'm trying to figure out what went wrong... any ideas?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makken85:
K, I redownloaded virtuous from XDA, checked the MD5, and tried to flash it again.

Same problem, infinite loop on startup screen.

Do i need to flash the engineering hboot? I was under the impression that that wasn't necessary for using custom ROMs.

Still can't figure out what's wrong.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deaththeorist:
did you debrand? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=835777
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Athrun88:
Have you tried flashing through CWM directly? I really don't like ROM Manager for flashing new ROMs and seems to oversimplify the process to allow green users to get on the flashing wagon.

I would boot into CWM (camera + power i think) and do a complete wipe + flash from in there. I have never had an issue with doing things directly from recovery and I have a Bell DZ as well. It's long since lost it's blue and white colours, but that was it's origin :)

Have fun!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andyid:
Im new to this stuff here, and i DO want to learn about it as this stuff is very interesting to me! Technology is something i learn very quickly if im directed in the correct direction ;)

The question i have here is about my Desire Z ( Bell Cannada ).

A few months ago we received a OTA update. So its currently running on Android 2.2.1 : Build - 1.84.666.2 CL322105, and its SUPER slow! Is it still possible to root this version?

I want to install the Gingerbread version on my phone, but i cant find instructions to root this OS version to be able to do so.

Or should i wait till the Official gingerbread Os to come out for our phones?

Ive been searching every where's for this info and everything i find is all back dated to last yr and nothing up-to-date after the OTA.

I hope this question is not TOO n00bish as i tried to search every where for it, and ether i could not find it or i did not enter the correct word search to get a result i needed.

Thanks in advance!

Andrew

Edit: NVM my question here.... i have finally found an update post within the wiki ( April 1 2011 )

Sorry for a useless post!

Thank you all for your efforts in posting in this forum! Very informative!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makken85:
heh. that actually worked. Flashed directly from CWM recovery and it booted up with no issues.

Guess I know not to flash from ROM manager anymore

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
You do not need to debrand to flash custom ROMs to the Bell Canada Desire Z.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Interesting, I've flashed many ROMs from ROM Manager on my Bell Canada DZ, and never had an issue. That said, flashing from recovery is really not any harder, so if it works, it works.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makken85:
Yeah, I assumed that flashing from ROM manager just meant that it rebooted to recovery and flashed it from there. I guess there is a difference.

Either way, been playing with Virtuous 1.0.2 for a few days now, really like this ROM, but I'm itching to try out something different now. Man, I can see this is going to develop into a time consuming hobby.

Plus, I'm going to need a bigger SD card to store all of these ROMs + backup =X

Oh, another noob question; I've come across a few zip files that included a system folder and an META-INF folder. How exactly do I install these?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bmurphy90:
G2 only works with at&t

alright here it is my t-mobile G2 won't connect to the t-mobile network at all, I've went through 3 SIM cards because this thing use to kill the SIM card from working on other t-mobile phones and it works perfectly fine on at&t network. so I've unlocked so it will work on at&t just to see if it would work. so i gave p and bought a MT 4G, but i still want to know if the G2 is fixable because I'm just about ready to throw in the towel :( this is what I've tried to resolve the problem called t-mobile they ended up saying just return the phone but i can't since i didn't buy it from them. Called them again got the unlock code. I've flashed the radio a few times. I've also just got the leaked 2.3.3 update and nothing has worked. It find t-mobile network but says your SIM card isn't allowed to connect to this network then after trying again it says unable to connect to network please try again later.

Just so frustrating i don't know what to do just about to say forget it. this thread is my last resort.

also i still have S-OFF
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gannon3502:
i used this method on my G2 just yesterday and put on CM7.0.3. the only issues i came across were because i restored everything (should have just done apps and app data) using Titanium, which put me in a boot loop. I'm dumb, so i did it twice before i figured out what was the problem. the thread has a comment about how Visionary is dangerous, but the OP responded that since it is only used to gain temp root, there should be no problems.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brilldoctor:
What is the point of this?

The idea of this is to convince htc to unlock the bootloaders and disable the NAND protection on their phones

Why should I support this?

Unlocking the bootloader and disabling the NAND protection will allow users to keep their phones up to date using custom roms such as CM7. Take the htc wildfire for example. In december 2010, HTC released a 2.2 update for the wildfire. However, hidden in this update was a new bootloader which could not (and still can not as of the 9th may 2011) be modified. It is unlikely that HTC will release another update for this phone, meaning that users are going to be stuck on this rom. The reason? So HTC can sell new phones. However what this is doing is putting users off buying HTC's devices since rival companies have announced that the users can easily unlock the bootloaders on their devices.

To support the campaign please sign the petition at http://goo.gl/uIeqv and you can like us on facebook at http://goo.gl/e1CqN
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brilldoctor:
Bump
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zukа:
Signed, good work!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brilldoctor:
Good
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brilldoctor:
BIG UPDATE: we got featured on androidspin http://androidspin.com/2011/05/18/c...ition-for-unlocked-bootloaders/#dsq-form-area
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brilldoctor:
And now eurodroid.com/2011/05/htc-fans-launch-petition-for-unlocked-bootloaders/
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
did what all my friends told me to do, who have the evo apparently a bad mistake. :( used unrevoked to root my evo, worked perfect. :D stoked!! downloaded titanium backup, backed up everything, worked great. still happy. went to install a rom (i guess) it told me i needed to change my kernel and had a link to the market for a kernel downloader. downloaded the app looked through bout five different kernels, all had good reviews and stable... downloaded the one with the most downloads (6700 or something). asked download? i said yes. asked flask now? i said yes. it said flash complete reboot coming... rebooted got to the HTC EVO 4G white screen sat there for bout 15 seconds and shut off tried to reboot again same thing. bout ten times in a row so i pulled the battery. did a hard reset didnt fix, did a wipe, didnt fix....

anyone know what i can do please help.. thank you
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
You need to match the right kernel for the ROM your using, you can download and put it on your SD card boot into bootloader should be good to go. Worst case reflash ROM.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
Never was to crazy about that app. ;)
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
im def. a noob with androids, iv always had an iphone so forgive me and dont be mad that im ignorant... lol since i dont wanna listen to my friends anymore about this how exactly do u reflash the rom? or ill just be happy putting the original kernel back in lol.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crump84:
Me neither.. It sent me into bootloops several times after trying to flash from the app.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crump84:
Go into bootloader (power off, then back on while holding volume down) Go into recovery, choose install from zip, then find the ROM on your SD card and flash.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
You did backup right ?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
i backed up using titanium backup (im pretty sure) went in there and did what it told me to do to back up

even if i didnt back up i still have everything on my google account right

just googling... how do u reflash when i cant even turn the phone on?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crump84:
I think he was asking if you made a Nandroid back ( a complete backup of you ROM) If not you need to place a ROM on your SD card and flash it via recovery (see my earlier post)
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
ok and i can just google evo rom and put it on the sd card?

also with the sd card i have the adaptor for the micro sd but my computer (hp and I MAC) never read those things. is there a better one that works or am i doing something wrong.

on my hp the light turns green but it never comes up anywhere in any drive on the comp

on the I MAC nothing happens at all
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
He most likely has the rom in the root kit. I flashed virus sence 3.0 on my wifes evo this mourning. Nice stuff.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crump84:
Find a ROM in the EVO section here at XDA ( Your in the EVO Shift forum) http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653

Not sure what to tell you about getting your pc to recognize your SD card but that would make the process a lot easier
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
Dont hook it to the pc. When the phone is off (hold volume down then hold the power button) it will boot into bootloader, volume down to recovery, hit power to select.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JTQ2UNYi7s
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
alright... thank all of you for your help when i get home from work i will try to get it going...
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
If you have time it will be running in 20 min. tops
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
i bought a new card holder i got the computer to recognize the sd card but now it will not let me drag the new rom into it... tried three different roms tried zipped form and dragging it wont let me tried unzipped form and dragging it.. wont let me.. :( what am i doing wrong????
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
do you see the original rom in it
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
rom has to be in .zip
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
i do not have the original rom becuase i didnt make a nandroid backup :( i was told i did not have to

and i tried dragging the zipped rom called "sinister rom" into sd card and it would not let me
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
thats weird. do you see the original rom on the card or just the pdxxx.img
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crump84:
You should be able to right click the file and have the option to send to removable drive.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
are u on the hp or the mac
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
the original rom should still there, unless you deleted it
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
i probable deleted it knowing my luck

im on the mac my pc still wont read the card even with the new adaptor
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
thats what i thought and tried second after i couldnt just drag it

:(
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
can u put the card back in the phone and get into recovery
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
yes but in recovery the computers wont recognize anything right???

and what do i do once i put it in recovery i try to restore from backup and it says no files found
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
do you have clockwork or ra recovery
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
it says clockwork at the bottom

i found a rom says its stock rom for evo its called supersonic_3 its actually letting me drag it to the sd card lets home that works huh
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
dont flash it if its RUU if its not rooted rom you can loose root
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
lose root forever?????

how do i know then which one to find?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/development-84/ota-supersonic-3-70-651-1-odexed-and-deodexed/

thats the website i found it it does say warning u will lose root

but the bottom link says.... stock ruu
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
no not for ever you can always re-root im looking for a stable rom now
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
this one

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=973173
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
never been on that forum xda all the way
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
zipped it drug it to sd card ... found it asked if i want to install zip i said yes it said reboot now i said yes and still the same problem tries to start get the white htc evo 4g screen and 15 seconds later it shuts off and tries again :>(
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
did you do full wipe
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
just skip step 3

1. Download the Rom

2. Place Rom on Root of SD Card

3. Please perform Nandroid Backup

4. Wipe data/factory reset

5. Wipe cache partition

6. Wipe dalvik cache

7. Flash the Rom

8. Enjoy
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
you do have evo 4g not evo slide
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
just finished did exactly as the instructions say. and it still does the same thing wont completely boot it tries then shuts off !!!!!!:(!!!!!
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
that is correct i do not have the slide i posted on the evo 4g side noone even replied lol
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
boot back into bootloader and check if you have s=off
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
yes security is still off

:( its fricken hopeless huh
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
no not yet still have some tricks up the sleeve
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
i now have four different zipped roms in there and whenever i click them it says unzipping and then just stops never actually does anything
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
how long do you let it boot for or is it a bootloop
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
try cm7, supersonic is the code name

http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=nightly&device=supersonic
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
if bootloop means what i think it means its a boot loop

i let it try to boot like 10 15 times it gets to the white screen then shuts off and tries again
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
the newest build 74 is solid

its pretty small too
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
ill try it im downloading it now
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
yup thats a bootloop
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
am i supposed to have a special file that im dragging these zipped roms into or anywhere on the sd card?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
if you could remember the name of the original rom all you have to do is reflash the kernal
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
i wrote down all the numbers to everything before i messed with it how would i reflash the kernel back?? mabe thats easier?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
any place is good somewhere its easy to find you can always clean it later
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
kernel number originally was

2.6.32.17-gee557fd
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
im gonna go on and bet you had the original rooted rom from the root kit what version did you root with
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
you serious-------- you wrote that down-----kool
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
holy **** it might be working

got the cyanogen 7 with the refresh arrrow and it booted up!!!!!!!!

WOW THANK YOU SO MUCH

!!!!!!!!!!

HOW CAN I EVER REPAY U????
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
here it is its htc kernel

http://www.4shared.com/file/YaO1l4l8/263217-gee557fd_htc-kernel_and.html
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
easy click the thanks button
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
wait your not done yet you have to flash gapps (google apps)
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
its the CM7

http://goo-inside.me/google-apps/
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
do i just click the first one???
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
yes the first one, but backup before you flash................so much for 20 min. hehehe
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
always backup (nandroid) better safe than sorry............they get pretty big after a while so delete and name them with the time stamp i just leave the date and then name the rom
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
theres no android market

and will i be able to sync my contacts after i download gapps??
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
yes you will go thru the gmail setup
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crump84:
Yes, once you flash the gapps you should have the market and be able to sync your google contacts.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
ok imma bout to make a nandroid back up and install gapps and the stock kernel to c if i can get my phone back the way it was.. lol
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crump84:
I checked out there for a while but glad to see you have it back up and running. :D
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
yeah im happy to sammael1069 worked their ass off to help me i cant thank enough lol

thank you to everyone who posted to try and help me out much appreciated... you have no idea
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
i use launcher pro with cm7 from market but dont stop there tomarrow try kings rom again youll be a flashmaniac before you know it.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
no the way it was is gone dont flash the kernel it wont work with cm7
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
so i installed gapps do i just reboot now??
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
so for warranty work how do i get it back to stock again???
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
if you flash a bad kernel youll end up in another bootloop
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
yeah i read that before i did it i didnt flash the old kernel lol

i dont wanna be there again hahah but i flashed the gapps and its just been sitting on the white htc evo 4g screen now for like 5 min how long does it take to boot up usually???
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
flash a RUU rom thats not rooted and there is an easy s=on, its like the root process but backwards, if you think of it if you have a stock RUU rom with no mods they have to go into bootloader to see if s=off at the store most of them dont even know what root is........never mind s=off
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crump84:
Run the ruu http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...19278-how-unroot-return-stock-ruu-method.html

You got the accidental thanks too.. ;)
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
it still has not booted its still on the white screen
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
what you might have a bad card or corrupt are you downloading to phone or the mac and moving the file your not pulling the cord from the phone while its hot are you?.........sorry for the poor typing skills
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
is it done yet ?.....it should be done by now
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
no i moved to my hp and figured out how to in recovery mount the card and i always eject the drive before unplugging my back up works but i dont think i know how to apply the gapps to it
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
try another download and reflash...........id hate to blame it on the mac but.....................well see
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
ok ill do the next one in line
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
no it has to be cm7 gbread not the cm6
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
so just to make surei download i put it on the sd card un mount put phone in recovery unzip the file when its done reboot device... correct???
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
no unzip just install zip from sdcard.............did you unzip it............do you know how to check md5
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
it says error 7 installation aborted
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
thats what i mean it asked to istall zip from sd card i say yes install it but it sayd aborted error 7
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
did you unzip it?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
got one to say instalation complete trying to reboot now. just got white htc screen
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
no i did not i downloaded it moved it to sd card and installed i miss spoke before
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
it just sits on the white screen everytime i install gapps and will never boot up
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
if that doesnt work try to wipe dalvik cashe (advanced,wipe dalvik cache) in recovery.....reflash gapps
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
thank god that would make a mess
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
ok and after i wipe that just install the gapps again and try to boot??

after i install gapps do i need to go back to my back up and open that file or just hit reboot?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
if you can download straight to the phone goto the link in the phone browser
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammael1069:
just reboot is kool
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swmp45a:
so just go to (http://goo-inside.me/google-apps/) on my phone and download it?? from the phone??? then if that works i showld create yet another back up right