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[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Im a bit stumped on this, must be some sort of a communication barrier. But no worries.

About the lawsuit, lets wait till the phone hits the US market.. then again the tint is not preventing anyone from using the phone unlike what LG is experiencing with its phone.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Its because im using KG2, it removes the entire yellow tint which is why im not *****ing anymore about the issue here :)

I do notice that your greys are more yellow on the pictures.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
I can't say for sure the majority is fine. I'm making that assumption based on anecdotal evidence. If this was the phone's second week on the market and 200K units had been sold I wouldn't/couldn't draw the same conclusion.
[Galaxy S II General] buxz777:
i had the dark vertical lines on my 1st two phones from o2 in may and the yellow tint the screens were just nasty and almost lokked stained!!

The dark vertical lines were not uniform and each sgs2 had them in different places so it wasnt right , the lines annoyed me more then the yellow tint and were like a needle in the eye , even the shop said it wasnt right and had no troubles taking them back .

I waited for a while and got my next sgs2's from vodafone about 2 months later

These screens are so much better , no lines at all , minimal yellow tint and a joy to look at .

I dont know what to suggest but i wouldnt be happy with them vertical lines they were visible on the web browser , gallery , market , facebook , twitter , xda app , most places i could see them unless it was a pure black image .

I am so happy i got ones i am now happy with
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
So, we've seen three SGS2's that look very different. What are your thoughts and does it reinforce that color temperature definitely impacts the visibility of the left side banding issue?
[Galaxy S II General] robydue:
your display is good!

White tending to blue.. confirm?
[Galaxy S II General] robydue:
Your display is like mine.

White tending to yellow.....?
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
I have no problems with the white levels on my phone, its actually very great!
[Galaxy S II General] Tigrouzen:
Same here on Wave II Super Clear LCD !!! Now its Super Dirt LCD !!!

I modified with effect then you can see where's yellow the bigest its in right and its make eyes tired !!!

5 days ago i buy it !!!
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Those under KG1 and KG2, have you guys noticed that if you reboot the device and when you get to boot back to andriod and drop the notification tray the yellow tint is still there, you lock the screen once and unlock it and poof its gone.. I find that a little bit strange.
[Galaxy S II General] Zheiko:
I have never had it visible on ways it would annoy me, but slightly its in there, no matter what kernel/rom/baseband I use... no difference, still same very badly, but still visible...
[Galaxy S II General] Endoran:
After talking to Handtec directly on the phone I managed to get them to exchange my SGS2. Originally they found no fault with it and sent me a fedex bill so I could pay the return shipping for my original phone. It was actually pretty easy, the guy on the phone was understanding and I talked him through how to see the darker yellow tint on the left. He saw it and said I must have really good eyes cause he barely saw it, ha. Anyway, he said there were a bunch of returns like mine and that Samsung was being a ***** and refusing to accept some phones back as "defective" and that's why my return was rejected.

ANYWAY, after almost 2 weeks I got my new phone this morning. Unfortunately, it's another warm tinted phone, however, it seems uniform now, the left side is NOT darker, the whole phone has an overall yellow tint. This I am find with, it was the inconsistency that I couldn't handle. I took some pictures in a pitch black room with the darkness set to the lowest but all I have is my SGS1 (at&t's captivate version) and the pics didn't turn out too great so I'm not going to post them. But in the pictures it looks uniform at least.

Under my battery it just says "made by samsung" not where it was made. It shipped with KE7 (I can't remember how old that firmware is but I know it's not the newest). I'm pretty sure I got another member of the same batch. I'm happy, but I wish I would have got a cooler screen like some of you (and like my old SGS1). I'll adjust, I'm sure. Anyway, that's my update for those that remember ten pages back about handtec refusing my return. :) I'd say just call em (like I was advised) it was very easy. I'm glad to be back with an SGS2!! :D:D:D
[Galaxy S II General] Metalucifer:
Unfortunately, I can't take a picture of the problem!

It's only visible in extremely darkness....Bout the grey test with 20% brightness I couldn't find anything, maybe cause my eyes aren't very accurate...

However, I draw how it looks like!

h ttp://i53.tinypic.com/whl8nt.jpg (cant post image yet)

The left one is how it should look like, completely dark

The other one is how I saw... kind of bleeding light, don't know for sure what is and only becomes like left image when I remove battery.

Any tips?

Sorry for my bad drawing skills and english too
[Galaxy S II General] Endoran:
The lagom link doesn't work anymore =-( and yes I changed the h--p to http
[Galaxy S II General] Metalucifer:
type WWW instead o VVV
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Is the thick yellow line on the pic on the right side drawn in by you, or is that what's showing on the display? If that's the actual display, then run, don't walk, back to the store to exchange it. If you just drew that in to highlight something I can't tell the difference between either of the two pics.
[Galaxy S II General] Metalucifer:
Yes, that's part of the draw, no real pictures as long I cant take a picture with my old Omnia I900 in dark. =(

Actually I tried to simulate what's going on my screen!

It's a kind of light side , very weak!

Make a test, in completly dark, r u able to see any sign of light coming out from the screen?
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
If you see light that's the shape of the yellow line you drew when you look at your screen in the dark, your screen is defective. I don't remember anyone discussing anything like what's happening to you. The SGS2 display is the most photographed on the planet - if what you shared existed, it would have been found by now.
[Galaxy S II General] robydue:
non riesco a risponderti al MP forse perche' iscritto da poco

ti rispondo da qua

Ma che str...i! sembra siano d'accordo con sam per negare il problema!

cmq ho avuto riscontri anche su un altro forum

leggi il link sotto, praticamente dalle mie ricerche il

display senza problemi e' quello con dominanza azzurra

infatti mi hanno postato delle foto in cui il difetto non

si vede inoltre e ben piu' importante, le sfumature di

grigio del test si vedono molto meglio!

Per ora non faccio nulla perche' se Samsung non riconosce il problema si rischia solo di mandarlo in

assistenza e ricevere indietro lo stesso tipo di display

Non penso accettino la richiesta del tipo "mi monti

un display con i colori freddi"....

e tu cosa pensi di fare?

hai occasione di poter vedere altri telefoni finche'

non trovi questo tipo "blu" e riesci a verificare con i tuoi occhi che non ha il problema?

sarebbe la prova definitiva..

fammi sapere e se ti va contattami anche via mail

robycr at gmail

grazie e ciao

h--p://vvv.androidiani.com/forum/samsung-galaxy-s2-i9100/59565-scoperto-nuovo-problema-display-3.html#post566711
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
This is an international forum, please try to use english. Its also against the forum rules not to.
[Galaxy S II General] sachilleas:
Earlz i found too that that the yellow tint is there when i reboot the phone with KG1. I need (like you) to turn off the screen off and on again to make it disappear.

I have read comments that KG2 makes the yellow tint even worse. Does it work for you ??
[Galaxy S II General] the_scotsman:
Si prega di parlare solo in inglese, come noi siamo un forum internazionale.

Se volete parlare nella propria lingua, si dovrebbe anche fornire una traduzione in inglese

-----------------------------------------

Please only speak in English, as we are an international forum.

If you wish to speak in your native language, you should also provide an English translation
[Galaxy S II General] Metalucifer:
Ok, forget the draw....Isn't that kind of yellow line...Its just like a backlight coming from inside! Both from left and bottom side.When is completly dark, im able to see that light, very weak but exist... wonder if anyone also can see...

Btw, thanks for your patience and time!
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
I believe KG1 and KG2 are similar in terms of handling the yellow tint.
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
What about the official update?
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Which official update?
[Galaxy S II General] sachilleas:
If this is true that's very good news ! Maybe all or most of the next stock ROMS may have cooler temperature so they can lessen the yellow tint ! If anyone else has used both of these ROMS , maybe he can write about his experience too.
[Galaxy S II General] robydue:
would be great!

but don't forget that those "yellow tint" not displays all colors and have

a clear effect of banding, while the "blue"displays show full scale of gray!

would be interesting to know if the new firmware can also adjust

the color range displayed.
[Galaxy S II General] Tigrouzen:
Im not sure !!

looks this is s8530 wave II Super Clear Lcd

I use gray background.

A new !!!
[Galaxy S II General] anton79ru:
Just a report guys: got mine this week. Was aware of the problem and examined over 15 phones in Moscow. Saw only one with a "cold" screen that did not have this issue, the rest of them had a yellowish tint on the whole left side that gradually faded within an inch to the center. With brightness set to 25% or higher, the tint is barely or not visible. All phones' build date is May 6.

So I do believe it's a hardware issue, but I also believe there is a software solution. But in order to make that solution fully functional and available to everyone, Samsung needs to acknowledge the issue, which they don't want to do before they have found the underlying cause and a way to prevent recurrence.

Sorry if it's something that was said before - 170 pages, you know...
[Galaxy S II General] -Anthony-:
Hi.

I see the yellowish tint is quite less visible thanks Custom Rom and use of display.

Someone can confirm this?
[Galaxy S II General] robydue:
Thanks! is a very helpful witness, and expertise

from this in various forums we realize that the

"yellow" displays are in percentage much more

than "blue" probably originating from different

factories.

I think Samsung will never recognize the problem ...
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
Sorry i mean the kg1 and/or kg2 fw updates. I would like to know if there is a relase date or voices about that.
[Galaxy S II General] samven582:
I think its time you guys start a class action lawsuit against Samsung
[Galaxy S II General] np231:
No Apparent Tint on Bell Canada SGSII

Just bought the Canadian Version of the SGSII. Comes with KG2.

Seriously, this issue has been blown out of proportion in this thread. I can't seem to notice the tint during normal use on my device (Bell Canada Version). I tried to find it with 0brightness in the dark but its not really apparent, I am not going to spend 5min staring at the screen trying to find issues or take pictures to prove there is no apparent tint.

If you can't see it during normal use then its not there. If its really bad for your device then return it and get a new one but trying to find hidden problems won't make you happy about your purchase.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
You cant see it because KG2 fixes the issue, before you say its been blown out of proportion know some of the back ground story first ;)
[Galaxy S II General] np231:
You are right about KG2, thats why I mentioned it first in my post. The firmware lessens the tint which might not be good enough for people who expect a perfect phone. My post was talking mainly about people complaining even though they say its perfectly fine during normal use.

I don't blame anyone for complaining if the issue is really bad but I think there is very tiny percentage of people with serious tint issue.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
You also have to take into consideration that some units are affected severely that it affects daily use, my phone is such the KG2 really made a massive difference for me, yellow is absolutely gone.
[Galaxy S II General] sachilleas:
Thank you, that was very helpful,huge contribution. You have changed the way i see my phone.

If i can't see the sun during a "normal" night then there is no sun. True story.

Are you a samsung reseller ? executive? what ?
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
^^^^^^

This.
[Galaxy S II General] np231:
My intent wasn't to change the way you look at your phone. Maybe if this thread didn't exist then you would have been better off as you wouldn't notice the problem at all.

I'm just a guy who likes his phone. Not a Samsung reseller.

And use a better analogy next time.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Hey np231, welcome as one of the first Canadian's. Two things effect people's perspective on the left side banding issue: 1) their individual phone, and 2) their individual expectations. A large amounts of posts in this thread were based on the assumption that all phones were more or less the same. So when people talked about what were perceived to be unrealistic expectations, they got mini-flamed. If you looked at some of the pics on a web grey's test that were just posted, it's becoming pretty clear the color temperature can vary greatly from screen-to-screen. Those with cool/blue screens don't seem to be as effected as much as those with warm/yellow screens. I got one of the first phones from the UK in May. My screen tends toward blue. I can't see the banding unless I take a pic of my phone under certain conditions. Screens that are warm/yellow seem to exaggerate the banding which kind of makes sense because it shows up as yellow when seen on a grey background. So I don't think it's people being anal (although that isn't universal), those with warm/yellow screens probably do see the banding in every day use where those with cool/blue screens don't. If KGX makes the screen temperature cooler/bluer that will benefit those with a warm/yellow screen which is why people are saying the issues's been minimized/resolved with software. Since I have a cool/blue screen it'll be interesting to see what the increased blues in KGX do to my phone. Regardless, so far, when photographed on a grey background, in a dark room, at low brightness, every phone has the left side banding issue because that appears to be caused by something in the manufacturing process or in the design of the phone. Fun stuff, huh?
[Galaxy S II General] rafadiego.gomes:
I had to chance my phone =/
[Galaxy S II General] anton79ru:
Good point, np231. I do see the tint but I still bought the phone knowing I simply wouldn't be using it in total darkness with zero screen brightness. But some phones are worse than mine, plus we must not forget about those who use the device for reading or editing documents - they often have to reduce brightness to save their eyes.

Now about the issue itself, guys: after two days I'm starting to strongly believe that the tint is going away by itself, very slowly though. Either that, or my brain is getting used to it and has started to ignore this visual information. I'm happy with any of the two outcomes.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
In my case actually it was my girlfriend who noticed it first, she actually said why is the other half of my keyboard yellow instead of grey.
[Galaxy S II General] lynxboy:
Shouldn't this thread now carry the tag [SOLVED]? Or will that occur when 2.3.4 goes worldwide?

Regards.
[Galaxy S II General] Sieg9198:
upgraded to KG2, gone is the left side yellowish, but now in comparison right side is slightly more yellowish than the left now =.=
[Galaxy S II General] Spik3balloon:
After getting my SGS2 replaced, the new one still had the yellow tint, but the cold colour temperature was fixed. (now much warmer, which I prefer)

I was extremely skeptical that KG2 would fix the yellow problem, but it does mostly. It is now acceptable in daily use - upon closer inspection (especially in lower brightness), it is still there for a very tiny 2mm strip on the far left hand side, but it's no longer the massive 2cm+ yellow gradient that it used to be.

And as stated earlier by someone else, the fix only comes into effect after turning the screen on and off once after boot.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Im also wondering why it needs a screen lock for the fix to kick in.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Let's see what happens when the official KGX is widely released. No one already on KGX has posted any pics of a grey background following the instructions in the first post showing the banding is gone. So far, from what I've read, KGX just changes the color temperature to something cooler which seems to minimize the problem for people with phone's with warmer/yellow displays. And modded ROMs may be set by the dev at a temperature different than the official ROM so people's mileage may vary.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Theres no change in color temperature from XXKF1 to XXKGX ill post some pics later on, modded ROMs still show the yellow tint as they are all based on the XXKG2 2.3.3 and not 2.3.4
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Oops. I meant the KGX's built on 2.3.4. I forgot that some countries had 2.3.3 KGX's.
[Galaxy S II General] sachilleas:
KG3 is out ! Whoever installs it please inform us about the yellow tint !
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
As far as I can see the 2.3.4 KGX's have no change in color temp, if there was then its super subtle that it does not affect colors at all but reduces the yellow tint to 0.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
From a friend who just got his phone

KF1 firmware.
[Galaxy S II General] FILLY86:
When will there be an official update (over Kies) to 2.3.4 and KGX ?
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
Yes it's quite visible... i'm really curious to see the KGx effect on the screen. I would like to see a picture of it.

Waiting for the official upgrade...
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
on the top 2 pictures its not that visible actually.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
It looks like a cooler display which is why you don't see as much yellow. You can see the darkness on the left side of the pic of the notification drop down (second pic) which means the banding is still there. My phone's pretty similar to that one.
[Galaxy S II General] sachilleas:
You can also see the vertical lines we were talking a few posts earlier ..
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Those vertical lines are also visible on the Samsung wave and SGS1
[Galaxy S II General] bung_karno:
Yellow Tint!! yeahh way to go samsung

just got SGS II 23 July 2011 launch at Indonesia, queued from 8 pm to 9 am.

Notes:

Left my Friend - Right is Mine

setting:

Display automatic : off

Brightness : Lowest

hxxp://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/bung_karno/IMG01336-20110725-0012.jpg
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
Welcome to the machine, my friend.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
So your phone cant display whites??

What I've noticed with XXKGx is that on 0% brightness the left side still has as very slight tinge, probably about 70% less at 10-20% brigthness the tinge is gone, at 50% brightness both left and right side are almost equal in brightness.
[Galaxy S II General] beppez82:
You could try speedmod kernel he has add some tweak for color etc and seem better than stock KGx... Atleast at my eyes all seems more uniform also in the gray page of the 1st post.. AND seems also that the darker bottomside of my screen is gone

Sent from my Speedmodded Villain SGS 2
[Galaxy S II General] dk206:
This thread is still up? more of the same **** repeated again and again? lol

love the tags on this thread btw guys :D haha
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Colors on the Speedmod dont seem any better, his kernel is still based on 2.3.3 so it bring back the yellow tint which is fixed by 2.3.4 kernels.

Just because you dont have the eyes are deteriorated enough not to be able to detect this issue does not mean its like that for everyone.

@TOPIC

The stock lockscreen on the Revolution ROM makes this issue extremely apparent due to the color combination on that lock screen.

Good thing though 2.3.4 fixed this issue.
[Galaxy S II General] zoule HCo:
I believe not every SGS II affected by this problem.

I'm not expert on Screen things.. its ok for me.. bcoz the yellow things not so obvious.. unless u look for it..
[Galaxy S II General] beppez82:
*edit*

Looked better in a dark room and the yellow is still here btw less noticeable than on stock 2.3.3

I hope sams release 2.3.4 source soon so we can see what is triggering these issue

Sent from my Speedmodded Villain SGS 2
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
You probably never saw it to begin with, till speedmod stays in 2.3.3 the yellow tint will still be there, I've also tested T8 already.

Every SGS2 is affected differently, I havent seen a single phone that has absolutely no yellow tint pre- 2.3.4 kernel.
[Galaxy S II General] stijnr:
Color tone app?

Isn't there an app yet (requiring root) that lets you adjust the color tone of the phone (effective in all parts: youtube, video, normal screens) so that you could move it towards colder/blue or warmer/yellow?

This should be possible, right?
[Galaxy S II General] bung_karno:
update

From this case, i've been return my SGSII with the new one, but once again it made me confuse which one is The right S Amoled+ for Galaxy S2?

Notes:

-automatic display : off

-Brightness : Lowest

-Left (new one), Center (mine), Right (My Friend)

hxxp://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/bung_karno/IMG01339-20110726-1543.jpg

The SEIN (Samsung Electronic Indonesia) is confused too, why the 3 item show different contrast.. So tommorow they will open 2 BNIB Galaxy S2 to do comparation once again.

please help me.. :(
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Good god, the quality on those screens are not acceptable! The one on the right looks slightly acceptable but its too red!
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Most people aren't phone obsessed. We have thousands of smartphones where I work. I've seen screens on phones people use everyday that are pink, yellow, blue, green, distorted, and even cracked. They don't know the difference or don't care. I'm sure a bunch of the 6MM SGS2 owners fall in to that category. They open the box, activate the phone, and they're good to go. A lot of the phones people have posted pics of aren't the same color temperature but to the majority of the people who don't line a bunch of phones up side-by-side they're fine. The XDA audience's standards and compulsiveness don't represent the real-world.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Im not sure how this is related to my post since the OP is concerned about the colors he gets on the screen. Also If I wanted to talk about "most" I wouldnt be here nor would bung_karno be posting here if he didnt care. This is XDA we talk about this even if its only 10 people out of the 6Million that care.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
People come here to get information. To read some of the more dramatic and emotional posts would most likely lead them to believe that there's some wide-ranging problem and that the SGS2 is a ****ty product. There are some things we know for sure.

- Screen temperatures vary from phone-to-phone and those that are extreme should be returned or exchanged.

- There's a banding on the left side of the screen (the original topic of this thread) that some people see and some people don't that's most likely a design or manufacturing issue effecting every phone to date.

- Software seems to be able to alter the color temperature of the screen which addresses issues some people say they are having.

- There are QC issues that effect the screen that most likely are getting out in the wild because of the sheer volume of SGS2's Samsung is selling.

So, without emotion, that's where we stand.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Barry, have you updated to XXKG1/2/3 ?