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[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
Today i went to the shop from were i bought the phone and i shown to them my problem. They let to me to open another new sgs2 package and verify: even this new model had the problem plus an evident discoloration (really evident on white and led background), so i decide that mine was better than the new one. So.. 4 phones...4 fails. On mondey they will contact Samsung service to submit the problem. The shop director said to me that Samsung customer care will surely replace mi phone if i send mine back with one without defects. Should i trust him????

Is it possible that Samsung still does not take a stand about this problem?? By the way, the shop director said to me that they sold 83 phones and only i and another customer returned it (the other customer returned it for the pink spot on the camera.. that i have too).
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
I doubt a samsung tech will actually check if theres a yelllow tinting problem, best bet is to ask the store director to have samsung send a "perfect" unit to them and you can perform the exchange in real time.

Does your phone also do a color shift when viewing a white wallpaper when tilted at even non extreme angles?
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
Yes, there is a "bluish" color shift tilting the phone, it's due to the coating used for the screen.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Either they used another coating or the SGS1 never had this coating as my unit didnt have this issue.
[Galaxy S II General] themissionimpossible:
Apparently, a different type of display is being distributed in Italy with a branded version of the GS2.

It has a slightly reddish black, but it should be still an SA+.

It isn't yet known if it's only a single case or the whole branded batch will be this way.

Same display brightness settings, on the left: italian branded version, on the right: UK version:

Here also a video with the comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TXW6U2x2dYA
[Galaxy S II General] jvidia:
Samsung is getting worst every day that passes.

:(
[Galaxy S II General] hiraj_panosian:
.............+1.............
[Galaxy S II General] beppez82:
These is my device, what do you think about my screen thanks?

It is visible but not that much in my opinion in everyday use.

I think to RMA to samsung repair center, once they start to put out some good display unit, and in the meantime i will use the sgs2 of my GF that is going to buy in a week or two XD
[Galaxy S II General] r_a_c:
Your girlfriends phone is going to have the same problem...

And why use her phone when yours just got the problem every sgs2 has...? you just gonna lay yours down untill you can send it in for repair??

From what is see from your pictures your screen is the normal yellow left side.
[Galaxy S II General] beppez82:
I see today a no brand ita ke7 that is more reddish black at low contrast compared to mine import UK.

So in italian market ther are different units of display.
[Galaxy S II General] beppez82:
I mean I will use it while mine is to RMA if ofc something will change for those display if not I still use mine ehehe ;p
[Galaxy S II General] darkriderz:
now it's 3 million ;)

http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_ii_breaks_samsungs_records_sells_3_million_in_55_days-news-2846.php
[Galaxy S II General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Your argument doesn't work with this device, because it is not an IPS or LCD display. I know about the quality issues related to LCD's and IPS displays, and those issues are irrelevant to this issue, because it is a COMPLETELY different technology. In case you never knew, OLED displays, and any variation of them (including Super AMOLED+) are active light emission displays as opposed to filtered light transmission displays (like LCD's and IPS displays).

Just post the pics under the same conditions that everyone else on this thread who sees the issue. If it shows up then, you have the same problem as everyone else. If it doesn't show up then, you don't have it. If you can't show us proper proof of a perfect screen, then shut your gob.
[Galaxy S II General] deanwray:
wow, agressive! My point is, that there is no perfect display, only subjectively perceptually perfect and/or acceptable. So no need to get nasty or aggressive, you don't own this problem or have a right to demand anything of anyone ;)

And most ppl who post and continue to post on this thread are really upset with their phones display, I am not really, under my usage conditions I don't notice it at all. But for those people who continue to keep fire in this thread are those who think there is a major fault with the display, but who don't want to return it for a refund.

Again under my normal usage, I don't notice it, but I'm sure if I put my phone in a IRREGULAR situation, like using with brightness all the way down, or attempting to make a call from inside a microwave while the microwave is on, then yes, there will be problems. But does it deserve to go back to samsung for a problem I have to try and create, not really.

So in the interests of making a constructive post rather than the norm, I had an idea, what if I make an app that will be used at 100% for a day (while on charge) with the inverse cancelling colour gradient of this yellow tint. I know some people have mentioned burn-in, would this have a chance to burn in a correction? I could make the app variable so you can position the cancelling gradient to whatever intensity and position you wanted. But I think I would need a user with a really bad example phone who intends to keep it, to test this with me.

Just a thought
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
"Perfect" doesn't exist. Those in search of it, good luck. 3MM phones have been sold all produced over a range of dates and distributed across different countries and all appear to have the banding. So, keep returning it, maybe on the 35th exchange you'll get lucky. And perfectionists, time isn't on your side. As more time elapses the issue becomes less significant as Samsung sells more phones. Meaning, the need to do something or respond gets less and less important. You've also got to admit that with 3MM phones in the wild if this really was something that the average phone purchaser either saw or cared about it would have become a much larger issue on its own.

The issue was picked up by the online media and dropped. Obviously not a big enough problem for it to maintain any momentum. It's my belief Samsung's not only aware of the issue but accepted it as a compromise in the design of the phone. Regardless, they're without doubt aware of the issue. That said, with 3MM sold (1/3 of the 10MM they've said they intended to sell), I doubt there will be changes made. It's also clear that the majority is less bothered than the minority so sympathy will become harder and harder to come by as the same people keeping posting the same *****es to the same audience. Meaning, accept the phone as it is or return/sell it. Incessant *****ing here is not going to get your phone fixed as none of us work for Samsung.

The weather's beautiful here and it's a holiday weekend in the U.S. I'm going to take my perfectly acceptable phone and go out and enjoy myself. I hope the happy majority does too. As for the unhappy minority that's hell bent on continuing to own something that obviously drives them crazy, you try to have fun too.

To save everyone the trouble, I'll post your negative replies for you:

"I paid "X" for this phone, a premium product, and there's no excuse for this level of imperfection."

"SAMOLED+ was advertised as the "worlds best display" and this clearly doesn't live up to that expectation."

"The SGS2 is Samsung's flagship and this level of quality is totally unacceptable."

"I'm glad you can't see it but I see it and Samsung needs to do something about this unacceptable flaw."

"Those of you that claim not to be bothered, go away and leave this thread to those of us that are miserable and want to share in our misery uninterrupted."

"We all need to band together as there's power in numbers and that way the 20 of us will be able to get Samsung's attention."​

There's more but that should do for now.
[Galaxy S II General] knyitogato:
SGS2 is sold over three million units in the 55 days since its launch. Approx 50,000 phones a day. That's why we won't get any official reaction about this yellow thing. So enjoy it or choose another. No other option.
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
:(

I would like to know if i'm one of the few luky customers that received the "faded" display or other people just don't mind to it.
[Galaxy S II General] StupidIdea:
Its a feature

I see it as to feature. I don't like it, but I can't remove it. I bought SGS2 knowing it is there. I would prefer SGS display on SGS2, but there is no such option.

First SGS2 had light blue blob on the bottom of the screen. At the same place red was darker on the red screen. I returned it and after 2 weeks I got replacement that has perfect display with yellow gradient.

I buy games with DRM, that messes with my PC, and I buy other things that I know are not perfect.

P.S: Now I still hate Samsung that it took 2 week to investigate/replace my phone. It's none of my fault that they sold me bogus phone and still I'm the one suffering for it.

P.S2: I would like a recall and fix this feature, but we all know its not gonna happen.
[Galaxy S II General] aluks1982:
I can confirm my S2 has the same issue (italy)...imho the problem is that this amoled is too thin (could it be glue what we see in the background??)
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
I had my phone exchanged today for other issues, the store manager was kind enough to listen to all of my concerns. He popped out a few boxes for the SGS2 and we looked through them, ALL have yellow tinting issues, some more severe than others. all have the same banding but some units have massive white spots on gray images.

So yeah, I firmly believe that theres no unit that has NO yellow tint as of now. Maybe the next revision/batch will have this issue fixed.
[Galaxy S II General] Zheiko:
I dont mind yellow tint, not at all, its barelly visible, and there are other things that bothers me more... I noticed, after a week, that the picture is BURNING into the display... I have had clock open with highest brightness and white on black background for appx 3-5 mins, after that I rolled the notification bar down, and hell, I saw the time in there for quiet long time after...

(this was just for testing purposes, coz at the beginning I though I am paranoic seeing icons on notification bar)

My old HTC Desire with AMOLED didnt do such things...
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Same issue with SAMOLED on the SGS1, Its apperent on all units with the clock widget you get an after image on the wifi icon. Technology limitation, this is why apple sticked with IPS, I do hope that the next display tech wont be AMOLED based anymore maybe look back at the basics or improving the S-LCD should be samsung's concern. AMOLED seems to have more issues than benefits.

The yellow tint is visible when you have the keyboard on screen, its annoying but it cant be helped.
[Galaxy S II General] Zheiko:
Oh, glad to hear this, coz a friend of mine has SGS1 with Samoled, and he says he never noticed this on his phone, which means it wont be getting any worse(its really visible only on the grayish notification bar), I was just afraid, that within two months it will be way worse, but if its like this, I am grand with it... Well, still its in warranty, so if its gets any worse, I'll unroot and send it for repair
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
With the SGS1 it was not THAT pronounced, Samsung has never given any official word about this and I doubt they will, its actually also visible on white colors, if you have a very sensitive eye, its basically visible anywhere. Maybe next week I'll shoot for a new replacement for replacement hoping I get to score a unit with minimal yellow tinting.
[Galaxy S II General] pocketAM:
Exact ...

On white colors and also on virtual keyboard ..
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Makes me wonder how this even passed QC/Product testing, the variance between units are quite large, ive seen some unit with really massive yellow tinting that its extremely obvious.

This is like an endless quest to find an acceptable screen :(
[Galaxy S II General] jvidia:
I confirm that ! :mad:

I feel like selling this crap.... but when I look for alternatives .... what to buy ?? that's the question.
[Galaxy S II General] pocketAM:
Three options:

1) Sell now and rebuy it after some weeks

2) Sell now and buy another smartphone

3) Contact the technical service asking for replace
[Galaxy S II General] Zheiko:
4) Wait now with what you have, wait till the issue gets better with later release of new versions and then get tech. sup. for replacement

There is no alternative, HTC Sensation has its own problems with dust underneath the Gorilla glas and Death Grip. LG? Haha, I'd rather stick with my old phone rather than getting LG...
[Galaxy S II General] jvidia:
Dust ? :( lol
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
Yes, i confirm! I'we opened 3 boxes until now:

the first had one dead pixel and banding plus yellow tint

the second, the one i have now, has a discrete yellow tint

the third had a massive weird white stain on the upper side, which pops out the screen with red background (i tested the unit with the *#0*#), so i decide to keep the second one.

The customer said that i can choose to give my phone to the samsung tecnical support, but i'm afraid that the unit they will return to me can be even worse than the actual :( Now i'm in the air about the decision...:confused:
[Galaxy S II General] pocketAM:
I've just stop talking with a friend of mine. He bought one of the first Samsung Galaxy S II with firmware KE2. He told me that the display is perfect.

I'm thinking .. is there a relationship between the kernel and the screen issue ?

My opion: KE7 has a worst charging management and the overheat creates the yellow strip .. .
[Galaxy S II General] Zheiko:
If its discrete as you say, then I'd imagine its something like I have, which is barely visible, and visible only if you are looking for it, in that case, I'd stay with your phone, at least till the issue is resolved, then I'd try it
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
I quote: this display suffers the ghosting issue.
[Galaxy S II General] B3311:
Kernel - don't think so. I bought early too (middle of May) and am currently back on KE2. Have tried KE1, KE7, KF2 and KF3, stock and custom ROMs, and my display has shown no change (slightly darker on left, only visible on dropdown and keyboard, doesn't worry me at all).
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
Of course it's visible is you search for it. It's less visible if i raise the brightness from 50% to 100%. It's more noticeable when you open the messages app, where the background is darkgray.

P.s. did you post a picture of your screen @25%-50% brightness? Please can you post it, i would like to compare yours with mine. Thankyou :)
[Galaxy S II General] flute:
I agree, having tried many version and the problem never occurred...

:p
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
Wich version of what?
[Galaxy S II General] Zheiko:
Ok, send me PM, so I wont forget after arriving home from work, I'll make some pictures, so you can say if its worse or better...
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
Maybe. Surely, the heat generated from the phone during charging and during normal use, is not a good cure for the amoled display. As i've already wrote, seems like that the darker area of the display overlaps the high tempereature areas. To be 100% i should use a thermal camera. As son i can i will do it.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
There's really two separate issues that sometimes overlap:

1) The left side banding which appears along with a yellow tint either under certain conditions or, to some, in everyday use. This would seem to be a design issue as, to date, it shows up on every single phone produced.

2) Screen QC issues which include: 1) suction cup circles from production, 2) fingerprints on the inside of the display, 3) dead pixels, 4) vertical or horizontal lines, 5) ghosting, 6) white or black blotches, and 7) wide swings in color temperature.

There's no doubt the QC issues are probably vexing to Samsung. Based on the sheer quantity of displays they need to produce to satisfy demand they're either intentionally allowing displays to go out that shouldn't or are finding out from customers that bad displays got passed QC. Considering the large number of phones sold it's hard to guess the bad:good ratio but it would appear its larger than appropriate. And it doesn't appear to be getting better as newer builds seem to have the same issues as early builds. So banding may be forever but swapping phones may definitely help with the other issues.

I do think that adding the QC issues on top of the banding issue does compound it on some phones. That could certainly explain why some of us are happy and others aren't. There's still a lot of subjectivity at play so it will always be hard to say if what's acceptable to some is unacceptable to others. But with all the phones sold, you'd still think if more than a few percent had serious screen issues there would be a bigger audience for this thread and the issue(s) would have become more prominent on its own. I'd like to think things will get better but production demands may continue to allow QC issues to occur at higher than normal rates. Something that's frustrating for everyone - including Samsung.

Someone said something about the technology being flawed. Here's two links to stories where Apple was/is trying to get SAMOLED for their products. To me, it just helps reinforce that the benefits (color, contrast, viewing angles) still outweigh the downsides (screen life, burn in, inconsistency). And I'm sure Apple's engineers fully reviewed both the upside and downside before considering SAMOLED so it's still kind of a vote of confidence in the technology.

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/2...y-for-iphone-hd-4g-due-to-supply-constraints/

http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/05/26/we.rebuff.rumor.of.amoled.ipad.3.in.2011/
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
That would be really interesting to see. If it is heat related, it could also reinforce your concern about it potentially getting worse with time. If it does, and that time is less than the two year warranty, this little issue could end up costing Samsung a small fortune in screen replacements.
[Galaxy S II General] Seabass1:
My first SGS2 arrived with KE2 and the screen was terrible, it was very obviously yellow on the left side and it was visible in pretty much any app at any screen brightness. My replacement came with KE7 and is much better, you have to really look for the problem in order to see it. It's more down to luck rather than the kernel as to whether you get a good screen or not.
[Galaxy S II General] Petuhr:
/deleted

No yellow in my screen...

Ok saw a screen capture does not show the yellowish screen.

But besides that: I did both 20% and 100% brightness, but there's no yellow in my screen...
[Galaxy S II General] DrSlump76:
It's better that you delete this post.
[Galaxy S II General] Petuhr:
post deleted
[Galaxy S II General] :
I forgot for a moment that this thread is still alive and kicking!

and congratulations to everyone for crossing the 100 page mark.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Its gonna grow more as the SGS2 rolls out in different regions and hopefully a fix about this issue is on the works.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
This sums up the last 120+ pages of discussion,.

1.) Not really an option as CC refunds dont generally happen smoothly until the store actually offers the refund.

2.) Not an option as well, waste of even more money to buy/sell

3.) Yeah I had it replaced it was just a day old.

Im gonna have it replaced one last time probably this Thursday or Friday and and see if they have another stock with minimal tinting then have it RMA'ed with the 1yr warranty if the issue can be fixed down the road.
[Galaxy S II General] drm111:
There is yellow/darker left side on your screen. Everyone has it. This thread proves it.

Everyone who said that they didn't have it then posted a photo turned out they actually had it.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Heres the real world impact on my end, it does not stop me from using the phone but its annoying and eye catching.

When I view images/photo's PDF's the its really noticeable, opening up the virtual keyboard gives me yellowish letters on the left side, when moving around my app drawer apps with white icons appear yellow or even grey-ish, when im watching an HD movie this is where the biggest downer gets, the yellow tint is extremely obvious on the lower part of the screen.

Gonna have it replaced one last time in a hopes to be able to fish a unit with minimal yellow tinting.
[Galaxy S II General] -Anthony-:
It seems that there's a stock in UK without the yellowish problem
[Galaxy S II General] Sp1tfire:
Somehow i doubt that, unless they changed the manufacturing procedure, which is hard to believe considering they barely keep up the pace with how many units they are selling every second :o
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Can anyone with an SGS1 take a photo of the notification tray, I just wanna compare.. I dont have my SGS1 anymore.
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
129+ and counting.
[Galaxy S II General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Apologies for coming across as aggressive; more like frustrated at this point, especially from folks who, after 120+ pages of thoroughly describing the problem, still post screen captures instead of photos of the device itself.

I understand that for you, under normal usage (granted "normal" is different for every user), the problem is not/barely noticeable at all at 50% brightness. Some people normally run their screen at the lowest brightness to conserve battery, and for those folks, the problem seems most apparent. I personally run at 100% all the time, because, hey, why not right? It's a beautiful display, and I may as well enjoy it at its full potential. The issue in this thread all but disappears under my own normal usage. Even at lowest brightness on my device, it's barely there at all (still there though, if you look for it).

Anyway, moving on... On one hand, I kinda like your idea for that app, at least insofar as providing people with an option. That said, the only thing I don't like about it is that by doing a negative burn-in, it's effectively accelerating the overall burn-in effect of the screen as a whole. I guess it's a compromise between deciding to have a slightly imperfect screen with a yellow tint to the left, or having a balanced screen by sacrificing some of the overall brightness and lifespan.

At least there would be a choice.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
And its gonna grow when the phone officially hits the US shores.. When would that be ??
[Galaxy S II General] tr3yt0n:
Mine looks good no decoloration so far... hope will stay this way :)
[Galaxy S II General] SummerBoyz:
try post your photos?
[Galaxy S II General] style34:
Really? Hey, did you hear that? There is a perfect screen with no yellow tint...:D
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Well some phones need to meet certain conditions for the yellow tint to be visible, tested a quite a lot of phones, none of them required artificial settings to be visible even at 80% brightness they become more obvious.

This defect is on all units doesnt make it normal, Im pretty sure if this is like a 5/10 case people would not say this is normal. Just because its/a good majority of phones people become complacent about it.

With enough returns its gonna hurt samsung financially and maybe release a statement about it, a statement is enough a fix may or may not come at least we know whats going on and check out other options.

EDIT:

These pictures are not done with artificial scenarios but actually done with a high brightness level which I will leave out as the issue is apparent to ALL brightness levels.

For day to day usage, say Im downloading something or reading a website:

Creating an SMS:

Pulling down the notification tray coz I want to enable BT/GPS/Rotation: