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[Galaxy S II General] dk206:
Lol feel the need to minimize it?

I'm sorry but to the majority as in general consumers this is a "minimal" issue. Heck, I bet they won't even know it unless they read this thread. Unlike sgs gps where people will actually come & find this thread after experiencing issues. Get it?

It doesn't effect daily usage whatsoever. Mine screen is very little darker on the left however that doesn't make me come to this thread and weep about it.

From reading this thread there is a bunch of you who really are upset and I understand, however if it does bother you, don't swap it, get it repaired. None of you have right?

Which means either you're actually not that bothered, or your just a moaner. Moaning on this thread ain't gunna get anywhere. I'm actually surprised none of you guys have made the effort seeing all the complaints here. I sometimes visit this thread thinking someone has actually done it. But no, complaints, just pure speculation, mind you how do you know that every sgsII screens are like this? Maybe ONLY THE DEFECTS are here participating in this thread. You never know right? I'll be interested in what Samsung service centre too tbh.
[Galaxy S II General] r_a_c:
So you are saying we should wait after DOA period so we can't directly swap it for a new one, but to send it to repair, because than it gets fixed???

So you admit every phone has it?

I've send mine in, I will be getting a new one this thuesday, let's see if it is still there. Btw, that wasn't the only screen problem, vertical lines on grey, 15seconds burn in/ghosting(don't know what it is), some spots that had a change in lightness of the color they were displaying, 1 dead/stuck pixel,
[Galaxy S II General] eallan:
I live in the USA.

No reason to send it in for repairs if they don't acknowledge it. Afterall they sold it this way.

No weeping here. Just discussing a flaw in our phones. Feel free to continue not posting here in this thread that offends you so much.
[Galaxy S II General] :
Name me one phone (smart or dumb-ass) which is perfect and flawless. That means ZERO defect or niggles. Absolutely pristine features and perfect in every way conceivable.
[Galaxy S II General] bcool15:
+1

so RIGHT

was dying to buy one untill this thread happened on engadget
[Galaxy S II General] bcam117:
I don't have my device yet, getting it on the 17th, but what's the possibility that it could be glue or something? Maybe heating the screen slightly or something could reduce it. Not saying to cook the thing but maybe a series of sessions heating that part of the screen could do something. I'm just saying this for anyone desperate or something.
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
I was really excited about getting it but after reading all this I am not, confused if I want this phone or not!
[Galaxy S II General] dk206:
Go and actually L00k at one for yourself. Look at the screen too. A dev forum shouldn't decide for you.
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
Hmm, I don't think it's possible as from where I buy there is not always an option to check a device first and then buy a boxed one unless the stock is very good of that device.
[Galaxy S II General] samed1983:
If this is such a major issue just return the phone. If i noticed a defect like this it would go straight back to the shop for a replacement, so far mine is defect free.
[Galaxy S II General] style34:
Would be possible for you to take a shot of the notification drop down list and post it here?
[Galaxy S II General] Seabass1:
I don't know about consumer laws in your country but if you are able to return it for a refund or replacement due to this fault then I'd say go ahead and buy it as it's a very good phone and it would seem that even if this problem is widespread most people aren't bothered by it. Unfortunately I'm one of the few that found the issue to be a problem so I got a refund, and am currently waiting to see if it gets resolved before buying another.
[Galaxy S II General] -Anthony-:
Some info from Samsung about the issue?
[Galaxy S II General] zkyevolved:
I ordered mine, first batch in Spain for Vodafone, so let's see. I don't mind a little bit, but if there's a huge line going down my screen, or 10 dead pixels in the middle, then heck, I'd be pissed and get a new one! We'll see how the first batch goes! If it's absolutely horrible, then I'll return it :) But I've been waiting for a new phone since december and I want THIS one. :)
[Galaxy S II General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Nokia E71

It was well built, sleek, well featured, and did everything I needed or wanted it to do. It literally either met or exceeded any and all of my personal expectations of it. Basically it was unquestionably the best phone I ever owned. Period.

"So why aren't you still using it then?"

Easy. Why aren't you still using a Moto Razr? That phone was built like a brick ****house. Answer? Apps. Sadly, Symbian is dead.

Anyway, shifting gears here:

Has anyone here thought to investigate as to whether this is a Super AMOLED Plus issue, or exclusively an SGS2 issue? Basically, does this problem also appear to exist with other 4.3 inch Super AMOLED Plus devices, such as the Droid Charge for example?

Basically, if the problem doesn't appear to be an issue with Super AMOLED Plus itself, then perhaps this problem can be fixed down the road via a software patch specifically addressing the uneven brightness/discolouration.
[Galaxy S II General] Seade:
I have several bugs and problems with my SGS2, but I still think it's the best phone in the world. At least today.

Sent from my disappointing GT - I9100
[Galaxy S II General] J.2K4V:
Hi, i wanted to say that doesn't the sgs2 come with those 'invisible' screen protectors...could it be there's a fault with that or the SA+ reacts negatively with that.

i would've checked but replacing them protectors are quite hard :p.

Edit: Or someone can connect their phone to a tv and see if the problem is on there as well meaning it would be a software problem??
[Galaxy S II General] braulioleonardo:
"the best phone in the world" do you mean "better specs" I suppose. But several bugs and problems in a so expensive phone... is it fair???
[Galaxy S II General] Seabass1:
eallan posted earlier in this thread that he has a Samsung Infuse which also has a Super AMOLED plus screen and the problem isn't present on that but does have it on his S II, I know a sample of one doesn't prove anything and it's a different screen size but it does prove that uneven brightness isn't necessarily a "feature" of SAMOLED plus.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Yes. I've had four high-end phones from HTC, LG, and Samsung in the past two years. Each of them had/has flaws ranging from annoying to making the phone unusable. As complicated as these devices have become, perfect is a myth. Those in quest of it are always going to be disappointed. To give Samsung some credit they've already issued two updates and a third that includes 2.3.4. is weeks away. There are lots of people that are extremely happy with the SGS2 and some that aren't. You need to read the posts in some detail and see if the things that bother some bother you. I'd suggest you do the same for other phones you're considering too.
[Galaxy S II General] eallan:
Thanks.

Ill sew if i can snap a photo of the screen for you. Definitely not a problem strictly with samoled+
[Galaxy S II General] Flowlance:
It doesn't appear on screenshots, so it's a hardware problem. I don't know if it can be fixed with software updates.
[Galaxy S II General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Well, that's why I was careful to specify the 4.3 inch SAMOLED Plus display and not the 4.5 inch one used in the Infuse. I know it might not seem like much, but you never know; the size may be off by only .2 inches, but the 4.5 inch version could have a completely different manufacturing origin (different factory, and slightly different process etc.) That's why I wanted to know if specifically other 4.3 inch SAMOLED Plus displays were showing the same issues or not. If not, then I suppose it's really only a matter of time before we see some kind of software based solution.
[Galaxy S II General] mur76:
Maybe it was not a problem 1ghz but when it got delayed to upgrading to 1.2ghz. Extra heat causes the issue? Can someone underclock and check
[Galaxy S II General] Seabass1:
Totally agree, my point was that this shows that there is no reason why an AMOLED plus screen can't be evenly bright. If it's something specific to the manufacture of the 4.3 inch screen then I guess we are out of luck for now.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
This whole debate has been about something that shows up on a gray background at 20% lighting. Since that's not what the phone's typically displaying, why doesn't someone post some pics of the issue impacting something that represents everyday use? Maybe a picture, video, web page or app that they frequently use that brought this issue to their attention in the first place.

I think that would be extremely helpful in fully understanding the depth of the issue. It would also help people who are considering the phone know in advance what to expect. Based on the way I use my phone, had it not been for this thread, I wouldn't have even known there was an issue. In fact, even after knowing, I haven't had an instance where I can see any shading or discoloration in my daily use and obviously now I'm looking for it. Something that impacts daily use is much more likely to get Samsung's attention than a one-off example with artificially created parameters, I'd even go as far as to say Samsung is likely to ignore the whole thing if it doesn't impact real-world usability.
[Galaxy S II General] Blue1k:
Mine doesn't have any pink spots or tinting. Mine is euro model from expansys
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
OK guys please tell me how will I test & confirm this Yellow screen problem, should I set a Gray wallpaper or else? What's the best way to see it?
[Galaxy S II General] coincoinlapin:
Best way for me is to use the xda app and reading your post... ironical, uh? Very noticeable yellow tint when doing so.
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
Can you please post a simple answer but not a smart one, uh?
[Galaxy S II General] Karmilhan:
Can anyone tell me if this problem gets worse with time or not?

Cause i`m thinking of buying this phone, but now i`m having doubts about it. It cost`s a lot and i wouldn`t like to get unreliable screen with all this crap + dead pixels.

Actually i wouldn`t even look to the side of SGS2 after hearing about the yellow problem, but the thing is i can`t find another phone, that would suit me as well as this one.
[Galaxy S II General] icet69:
I use the phone often in the evening, when the light is low. Therefore 0% brightness is important. I'm shure that others will use it the same way. So this case isn't artificially generated!
[Galaxy S II General] kitch9:
I've seen 4 of these now and the screen is fantastic on all of them, but if you're the type of guy who feels the need to scour the net looking for ways to find problems that you can't see from normal day to day use then maybe this (or any other) phone is not for you.

Led/lcd screens will display some irregularities somewhere as it's the nature of the tech, so unless you are unfortunate enough to get a unit with a glaring issue that doesn't need to be physically looked for under a microscope, or you need others to point out the problem with perhaps photoshops, I wouldn't worry about it.

It's the best phone screen I've seen bar none.
[Galaxy S II General] aaksheytalwar:
I have a sgs2 and the yellow tint is very visible and this is my first gadget with such an irregularity.

However hopefully I don't regret my purchase because of this.
[Galaxy S II General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Well, known issues aside, I still went ahead and placed my order on expansys.co.uk today! Funny how it ended up being cheaper (including fees and handling even!) to order from Expansys UK than from their US site (I live in the US). Should get here even sooner as well and all!! All said and done, came out to roughly just a little less than $700.

Anyway, once I have mine, I will try to report any issues as I see them, no pun intended. Frankly though, if it's something that disappears by doing something as simple as increasing the brightness just a little, to something like, say 50% or so, then I can't say I'm bothered by it at all.

Long story short, all the bugs that I've been hearing about so far (pink spot camera issue, this particular screen issue, android system draining battery, etc.), all seem to be things that may well be remedied via future software patches. So, bearing that in mind, I'd say, hang in there, be patient, and all (or most) of these things should be fixed in some way or another, whether by the good folks here at XDA or by Samsung. I mean, to be fair, the phone has really only been widely available throughout the world for just about a month now. It's only early days yet! ^_^

Now, here's to hoping that the Netflix app works right out of the box!! ;)

(unless of course someone can already answer me that one?)
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Either you missed the point I was making or ignored it. Post a pic of something other than a gray screen that you're viewing at 0% brightness when the lighting is low to show the impact of the issue as it applies to everyday use. I just flew to the UK on an overnight flight and couldn't see anything on videos or content from the Readers Hub and the cabin was pitch black. I'm sure prospective purchasers would appreciate seeing the problem on something beside a gray screen. I'll certainly try to take some pics of different content at different settings when I can get to a camera.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
It does, and works fantastically. Even on AT&T's sometimes sluggish 3/4G network. I have the APK if you need it when you get your phone.

Back to our regularly scheduled debate...
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's the code to put the phone in to LCD test mode...

*#0*#

It allows you to set a red, green, blue, white, and black background. Someone who's bored and has a camera, take some pics of different test screens at different brightness levels and see what it shows.
[Galaxy S II General] eallan:
Minimize it all you want. It's not just something that happens on 20% with certain backgrounds.

No idea what your crusade is with defending this phone. No one says you should hate yours and return it. We all noticed it though. Some of us within minutes of normal use.
[Galaxy S II General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Good to know! Thanks though, already have the APK.

But yes, like I was saying, I have a sneaking suspicion that the current issues we're seeing here are likely to be fixable via software patches. Time will tell!
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
I'm sitting next to a geek on a plane who let me use his phone. These were taken at 0% brightness in a dark airplane lavatory. Discuss...
[Galaxy S II General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Honestly, I don't really notice anything in these pictures. I don't know if that's because of the camera used to take these photo's, or if the issue is really just too subtle for the camera to really pick up. Either way, it doesn't seem to be that much of an issue in these pics at least... Maybe it's something you really have to see in person?
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Who is the "we" you've appointed yourself spokesman for? It's certainly not the global "we" because there are obviously differing opinions on the severity of the issue. You deserve credit for identifying the issue and I fully agree that there will be a subset of people that that think it's a deal breaker. By the same token, there's another camp that may find it acceptable. Since we all don't use our phones to simply display gray backgrounds at 20% screen brightness, what's the harm in seeing how the issue you identified really impacts people based on the way they use their phones everyday?
[Galaxy S II General] icet69:
There are several apps like sms, k9mail, some news readers ... where the yellow tint was visible.

On my galaxy s everthing looks fine so I returned the phone.
[Galaxy S II General] icet69:
You only see the issue when you look to white or all shades of grey. There is a wrong mixture of red, green an blue. On other color your eyes are not able to detect this issue. But there are many apps that use white or grey backrounds.
[Galaxy S II General] eallan:
Yeah when would some look at white or Grey on a smartphone?

/s
[Galaxy S II General] a67543210:
Have you tried looking at another android phone to see if the drop down menu does not have a different colour shade on the left from the right?

I think the difference in colour shade of part of the drop down menu shadding as has been programmed.

My screen looks slightly yellowish overall and I consider this to be the colour temperature as I have tried all three colour temperature settings under display. I think the phone uses mostly a WARM colour temperature which tends to be yellowish.
[Galaxy S II General] simacca:
I can't see any yellow display problem on the left side on a white background using the *#0*# code on full brightness or auto brightness.

I tried taking a picture with my iPhone, but it came out a bit crappy. Will try to get a better picture.
[Galaxy S II General] drm111:
it happens on dark greys, not white.
[Galaxy S II General] eallan:
I first noticed it using the xda application. You can see it in the market, talk, gmail, etc. It's not as noticeable as on a grey backround. SwiftKey shows it quite well.
[Galaxy S II General] MartinNH:
You can take a screenshot using the home and power button. That shows that there's no gradient. And as others been saying it's also noticeable on white backgrounds at least on some of the worse cases.
[Galaxy S II General] simacca:
Oh I see. Will have to check it out. Can't say I have noticed anything so far, but I haven't been looking for it.
[Galaxy S II General] blade75:
First of all set display brightness to 0-10%, then you need a uniform background, on a gray tint, best if close to #333333.

You can also notice it pulling down the notice area dropdown.

Otherwise you can go with the browser here:

http://fiddle.jshell.net/qFxsC/1/show/

wich is a page with a #333333 gray background, or if you want to do some more testing on other colours you can go on this page I made:

http://jsfiddle.net/N427X/1/show/

There is a textfield where you can type a hex colour code, then click on apply and it sets the background to that colour.

I noticed that beside gray, also it is noticeable on "33" combinations, like #330000 , #003300, #000033, #333300 and so on

If you are in a dark place it is more visible
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
10% brightness, medium-dark room...
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Apps/sites I use regularly...
[Galaxy S II General] puregreen59:
i dont seem to have this problem.. :) thank god :O
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
I'm guessing you do. Using the gray background at 20% test, no one's been able to post a pic that doesn't show a discoloration on the left side. When I first read this thread I would have sworn I didn't have it. I really couldn't (still can't) see it with the naked eye. But when I took a picture of the phone I saw it.

In the pics I just posted using apps someone said they saw the issue with I can't see it (can anyone else?). So I guess the real question is what does it mean in everyday usage under normal conditions?
[Galaxy S II General] DuoM:
Are you saying that in your case you can't see it with the naked eye but only with a camera?
[Galaxy S II General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Soooo, wait, lemme make sure I understand this correctly: You can't really see the problem with the naked eye, and you still can't see it even now, and the only way it ever shows up is when you use a camera to take a picture of your screen, and even then only under certain brightness levels, certain ambient light scenarios, and on certain shades of grey...

So, remind me again, what exactly is the problem?

P.S. I'm not really trying to be a smart ass here or anything. Believe me, I am really hardcore about anything I have to look at or look through (screens, windows, glasses, etc.), so if there's even some kind of minor defect here, I'm really concerned about that. However, if you're basically telling me that this issue is invisible to the naked eye, then as far as my naked eyes are concerned, there is no problem. That's all...
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
I can only speak for myself and I can't see it with the naked eye. I've never seen another SGS2 so I don't know if the issue comes in varying degrees of severity. I got involved in this thread because I posted that my phone was fine and the OP said prove it. When I took the pic I saw the discoloration that's being discussed. No one's been able to post a pic that doesn't show the discoloration so I'm not questioning that it's there either by design or as a defect. Others like me probably want to know what it means in real life which is why I posted pics and asked the people that were most vocal to post something other than a test background showing the issue. And that brings us to today...
[Galaxy S II General] eallan:
I'm his counterpart. It's by no means disastrous, but I noticed it with both of my phones within minutes of normal use. That's my problem.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
You know what's funny eallan, if you posted that this bothered you and people started flaming you for it I'd be the first to leap to your defense. You have very high expectations and this phone is certainly not cheap. Without a doubt there are people that share your standards and, knowing what we now know, wouldn't purchase the phone because of it. So, you've actually helped them. I got rid of a two week old G2X because it had LCD screen bleed in the corners (among other issues) and it was driving me nuts. So, I'm not totally without standards either. Sharing a range of perspectives allows people to see where there expectations fall and make informed decisions. That's always good and what discussion forums are for.
[Galaxy S II General] DuoM:
Then if you, your family, your friends and your colleagues can't see it with the naked eye, whether at 0%, 10% or whatever, then as you said originally you don't have a problem.

Cameras can see parts of the spectrum that the human eye cannot and they can pick up things that we can't.

The phone was designed for humans and in your case it seems to be fine so you shouldn't worry about it. Colonel Steve Austin, on the other hand, is going to be very dissapointed with his SGS II.
[Galaxy S II General] icet69:
I my case it was noticable in every day usage. So I send it back.

When the defect is solved I'll buy another one.
[Galaxy S II General] Nurra:
I finally see the the yellow tint thing. But it doesn't border me because I had to sent the screen brightness to the lowest level and even used the screen filter app to set the brightness level extremely low for if to be noticeable. So I dont think this is a big problem.
[Galaxy S II General] razpowa:
I can see the problem on almost every screen, even with maximum brightness...

Unfortunately, the store where i bought the device doesn't allow to rma on products that had the seal broken (i had to broke the box seal to turn on the device, as it is obvious) and says that will only allow me to replace it if samsung replaces devices with this problem...

So, or i sell it and lose some money, or i need to lose time to create a software screen filter...which probably will not be good enough to present a good quality image...
[Galaxy S II General] simacca:
I think I may have a slight yellow tint on the left hand side, but I only notice it if I really look for it.

I'm more concerned about the blue tint when I tilt my screen.

I briefly had an SGS1 last year which had a terrible mesh effect on grey backgrounds, which thankfully I cannot see on this model :)
[Galaxy S II General] Leggenda:
(A message to the user that have the Samsung Infused) ...

Can you post a photo of your (Infuse) display? Thanks.