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[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
First of all I don't see a single reason WHY should I put on server something I want to transfer from PC -> Device or other way around. This is the same as if I want to go to the next room in my house I have to go to the roof first and than go down again however these rooms are next to each other. I have no need to have all of my docs on any server, WHAT FOR?! I'm not afraid but I see no sense of of putting everything there.

And if I want to I can always use dropbox which is supported by all platforms not only MS products.

And exactly as above, if I'm in any place without data connection and yes there are many places like that, I travel alot and my work is not the office one, to put a simple doc on my phone to edit later I HAVE TO LOOK FOR WiFi. This is stupidest thing I can imagine.

Online is good ONLY for people who sit in one place constantly logged to internet.

And as for file explorers of any kind, guys you say silly things. You don't even get my other points. Maybe you're lazy but I like to specify the name of the photo I'm sending to someone or Pdf I am storing. I want to change folder names in Photos, why does it have to be like MS wants. File explorer is a basic thing. Try to remove it from PC.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
But in my example, you would drop your PDF onto the phone via Zune. You should still be able to rename it of course, I agree! But either the PDF software or Zune should let you do that.

I guess there should probably be a "file explorer" within each piece of software which allows you to group files (i'm reluctant to use the word Folder, because that's not necessarily what I mean) by what makes them meaningful. PDF = Title, MP3 = Artist/Title. But not an explorer where you can basically just browse the entire device, because consumers wouldn't know where to start.

I don't see why you would need to know where they are on the phone?

I think the same principal could apply to the PC here actually, I don't see why not. I know my mum doesn't know how to access her My Documents folder by using it's system path...
[Windows Phone 7 General] hamzie:
http://wmpoweruser.com/over-500-new-features-coming-in-windows-phone-7-5/

500 NEW FEATURES!!!!!!!!

500 NEW FEATURESSSSSSSSS
[Windows Phone 7 General] tperson1:
Will we have to buy a new phone to get mango or will we be able to update via zune
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
This has been answered soooo many times already. But especially for you, here once again:

every single WP7 device will recieve the mango update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hamzie:
Hey guys.. will we need to buy a new phone if we want mango?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
They're probably counting every language, background agent, task, etc... pretty easy to get over 500.

I'm wanting to see the new devices.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jessenic:
I am really waiting for the socket support :P I'd like to have a good SSH client as well as a VNC client. Big day tomorrow ;) We'll see those other features :D

I want to know that too! :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonshines:
from what ive read, its the new look and feel of the people tile. since there will be a couple of services tied to it, they've changed its look and feel.

i sure do hope theres no need for us to buy new wp7 devices. i believe it was also mentioned in mix2011 that all of mango's features will work on first gen wp7 devices except for the gyro since this feature needs a built in gyro hardware.
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Gyroscope features will be provided by the Motion Sensor API for 1st gen devices, less accurate as no hardware gyro but still available.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Holy!

Nine new phones supposedly being showed tomorrow.

http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...-in-mango-teases/&category=classic&postPage=1

My thought was correct. WP7 is dead until Mango. Its not a bad thought, so don't get your panties in a bunch.

I can't wait.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DeathLamp:
The best thing would a datahub, in which you can just throw the files from your computer. This Folder is shown as a massstorage on the computer and you just dragndrop your files in it. Or just download the files with the internet explorer mobile.

The datahub on the phone then will show those files, allow you to group them by filetype etc.

In addition it will make appsuggestions for the different files types, for example for the .pdf file it will make the suggestion "Adobe Reader".

Then when you select a file it will show all apps which can open this filetype and you can select one which will then finally be launched with the file opened.

Within the datahub you would only be able to browse within one folder (and within its containing folders) and not the whole phone.

Sincerely

DeathLamp
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
That's by far the best idea I have read so far. Nice. +1.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Well, technically, "WP7" will die with the release of Mango, since it will then be WP7.5 ;). It would be nice if Microsoft could brand the OS in such a way that its acronym would be more independent of the version number, but WP by itself is too short (I think), and I don't think WPOS would be well received :).

But seriously, this is no different from the way each previous iOS HW/SW platform has been "dead" with each new release announcement. I know a number of people who already consider the iPad 2 dead, since a new model is coming out before the end of the year.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
Why would someone want to name a phone 7.5 just because it has mango on it ? Really ? Every phone will get mango, the next models are just progression of the line up.

I hope for a RDC (remote desktop app) and WI-Fi tethering !
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Mango is a code name for the project. Microsoft has announced that the official moniker of the release is "Windows Phone 7.5".

No one is going to name a phone "7.5", but the OS that runs on the phones will be WP7.5. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was saying anything otherwise.

True RDP should be coming soon after Mango is released, since the necessary APIs will then be available
[Windows Phone 7 General] dotcompt:
Over 500 new features coming in Windows Phone 7.5

Tomorrow will be an exciting day.

And lot of work for me updating the first post, hopefully with lot of videos, can´t wait.

"As time goes by and Mango so close, Android and iOS are getting so much boring", don´t you think?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Technically, no other OS has touted future features for almost a year. So technically, this is nothing like other OS. Why talk about the future so much, if your current OS is worthy?

Dont want to argue as this has been a great thread so far. Just technically speaking.

I think the name will just be Windows Phones after Mango.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hamzie:
Will be airing at midnight for us in australia.

Any idea how long itll go for?
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
My guess: 1 - 2 hours max.
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
cant wait for te new 500 featuers of mango.... i only need few for now but its great to have 500 add on'e...

guys, no point arguing about what the OS will be called.... and if WP7 is dead till the Mango comes out.... its always very subjective as some users use phone for some very user specific app or feature... i am very happy with my HD7 since i got it last Nov, and its getting better and better every day..

all hail MANGO....
[Windows Phone 7 General] hamzie:
http://wmpoweruser.com/more-mango-rumours-wp-7-5-update-to-be-pushed-out-to-phones-in-september/

'Neowin also reports that some developers will be allowed to flash their devices to Mango earlier, which can only lead to leaked ROMs all over the place '
[Windows Phone 7 General] Avandor:
Nope, this has already been covered... your "old" WP7 will do nicely.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
Great, so we can all start calling it the "July Update" now, then blame MS when we eventually get it in December! Can't wait.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/using-office-365-with-windows-phone-video

It's a beta but currently looks like still SharePoint sync works pretty much one way.

Means you can't just save the .doc to the server from the phone. Very bad.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hamzie:
soul crushing disappointment......mango might be called wp7.1 and not wp7.5
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Why do you consider a version number a disappointment? I honestly don't give a a flying f*ck whether they call it 7.1, 7.01 or 7.5. I don't even care if the project's name is mango, red pepper or lobster. What I do care about is the amount of features it will bring and that Windows Phone 7 will move several steps closer to its competitors. If it doesn't even pass them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
The name doesn't matter indeed.

But passing? Maybe in the fall of 2012 yes.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Avandor:
Who cares what its called, they could even name it 6.9... hmm actually that might sell better :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
This is NoDo, Mango has a totally refurbished Office Hub as far as I know.

Look up the video from the new Office Hub demo with skydrive... I dont think this guy from the video has Mango already. So these features are totally not representative for all the capabilities the Mango office hub will have.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/...&utm_campaign=Feed:+pocketnow+(pocketnow.com)

Any word on multi player gaming? Besides kinnect.
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonshines:
will we be able to play xbox live games that are rated as "M" by esrb once mango is implemented especially those were removed from market place because of the M rating? i really felt bad when twin blades was removed from market place. when i did a hard reset on my phone,the time i was to install it again,its no longer available. i wasnt able to enjoy the game that cost me $4.99 (if im not mistaken)
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
I was looking through the MIX slides a while ago and noticed they were adding a "Game Invite Task." I guess that could still be just for turn-by-turn gaming, but hopefully not. I would think having socket support is all you need though, right?
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Ok we will see than.....

But this is not NoDo because it has currently NO integration with Skydrive in Office besides OneNote
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
The description makes it sound like Office 365 interfaces with Windows Phone 7 through SharePoint. This guy doesn't have any special software update to support this.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Its NoDo, he even says it in the end (something like well we dont know what features will be added in the new mango release). He is using SharePoint integration as it is now on NoDo, you can do the same stuff right now on your own device.

Mango is assumed to totally change this and also bring SkyDrive integration besides SharePoint.

The build he has is just the normal NoDo build, NOT MANGO, nor a Mango beta.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
God that presentation was boring! So much hype for little news really, lots of stuff we had seen at MWC and MIX. A Press Release would have been enough, I almost fell asleep.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
The speakers were awful. The problem is that we'd heard all of these announcements before, and the new ones were just spurted out as if they meant nothing "yeah...sdk available today...release in fall...see ya'll later"
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
They organised the event as one for consumers so really I didn't care about SDK release, that could have been in the press release.

An event for consumers is supposed to wow people, that was just awful from start to finish.

Another thing, yesterday Ballmer talked about all these amazing 500 new features and today they were like "sorry we don't have time for that, we'll show you over the coming weeks and months". So what was f* the point of that event then? That was amateurish at best!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Zedox:
It's for buzz...a continued and constant buzz over features. You know with iOS, they are going to give you all the info at WWMC. MS is trying to have buzz before and after that. Pretty simple and seriously we would have been watching that event for a couple hours for 500+ new features.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
Did they show any new device which is coming? Someone said 9 new devices before..
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
What buzz? If you don't already own a WP, what's there will make you go "you know what I'll get one of these instead". You've seen WWMC before, that's what I call creating buzz, not to mention what Apple announces is usually pretty much ready for release.

They didn't have to show 500 features but rather the ones that will make people excited, not just people who already own WP. For instance, Xbox Live got a brief mention with no real idea of what's new, Zune wasn't mentioned at all, they didn't demo amazing 1st party apps (no need to release the SDK for that), they mostly rehashed their WMC/MIX conferences. So tell me, what buzz?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tone_:
That speaker was poor, kept looking/reading his notes rather than the odd glance..

some more stuff here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP30F3ZxTmw&feature=player_embedded#at=459

Also a facebook session later today where you can ask questions...

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ango-hundreds-of-improvements-on-the-way.aspx
[Windows Phone 7 General] ghlu:
So underwhelming. Where's the navigation? Where's the offline map? Where's the skydrive/office integration? The presentation last time at MIX was way better..
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Joe Belfiore was sorely missed, very lackluster presentation. But Mango still rocks!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] ikke008:
Can we, developers, use a pre-release on our phones?
[Windows Phone 7 General] dotcompt:
I believe some developers will have Mango early summer.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tiny17:
Vindicated.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dotcompt:
Mango updates

I guys,

First post updated:

I added some videos released today and updated some articles.

I also added on the top of the thread a Windows phone Video and Image Gallery from Windows Phone Newsroom.

Windows Phone Newsroom: Webcast was added too.

enjoy it
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
So it looks like you can use FB/Messenger chat ONLY if you login your device to FB. So bad you can't actually divide those things.

And no word on any Office enhancements.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
We can still hope for ebuddy or another app to go around that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
That's what that deep integration is all about. I like the availability of all kinds of communication options from within the peoples hub. BTW, there are some news about office on wpcentral.com and wmpoweruser.com.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dotcompt:
Derek Snyder from Microsoft shows whats new.

Windows Phone 7 Mango Hands-On Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWiKP18ijxE&feature=player_detailpage

Windows Phone 7 Mango Hands-On Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccXva5yWTFY&feature=player_detailpage

Thanks to Pocketnow.com
[Windows Phone 7 General] Schismal:
So this color isn't one of the selectable themes on my Focus. And I'm pretty sure I saw a Mango device in one of the videos today with a deep hunter green theme that also isn't selectable on the current OS. So I wonder what color customization options will be part of this update?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Titus_Andronicus:
Access to over 1500 APIs

Anyone know where this list is located? This is and multi-tasking are what I am looking forward to the most!
[Windows Phone 7 General] dotcompt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUWs5FwzOFw&feature=player_embedded
[Windows Phone 7 General] dazza9075:
I am impressed, im happy just the way it is but even if half the the stuff they are talking about is not fud and is actually any good this update will be amazing.

Just one thing on the whole off line maps business, its not up to MS to do this, go nag tomtom and garmin, propper off line maps with directions and POIs require licences, these for the most part cost money, navigation via bing is one thing, one terrible thing but its something i guess, but what i really want to know is why the hell are Tomtom and garmin etc dragging their heels, this is where we should be directing our rage.

There is a lot of cool features in there and i for one hope they take their time and make them work before releasing, no rushed work please MS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Thanks for that. I was actually asking more about any new Word features for instance.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Yeah I assume it's like that.

I was asking because while I like to use FB chat I definitely never merge FB contacts with phone contacts. I use FB only a little and don't want this cr..p all over my device. Thus separate FB chat is needed I think.
[Windows Phone 7 General] brummiesteven:
That's just the orange theme isn't it? (Sorry I'm colour blind, that's what it looks like to me)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Schismal:
It's more of a yellow to my eyes, even when I account for different screen tech lending different shades. Here's the orange for comparison.

And this one is a bit harder to see, but it's a compelling slide from the Mango event:

Check out the two different shades of green. At first I figured the camera angle or screen tech was simply changing the contrast, but compare the shade against the (standardized) green xbox tile in the lower left of each phone. To me, that shows there are two different green themes.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Yes, that's the orange theme. There may be more color choices for themes in Mango, but it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft keeps them as they are.

[Edit]

The "orange" in this picture (as linked above):

looks NOTHING like the orange on my Focus.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Knochen1981:
I want this release so badly.

I love the cloud part already and the new features are simply awesome.

I love the multitasking, the new games hub (no longer xbox live extras :)), love the messaging part (especially lync), the new search enhancements and and and...

This release will push wp7 to the next level.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Schismal:
So I tried the orange theme on my Focus (despite fervently hating orange), and while it's a bit lighter than the LG pic, it's definitely a different color than the more yellow-ish one posted before. But YMMV. We'll know soon enough.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
You may need to get your monitor calibrated ;). I keep mine color-calibrated for photography work, and the "yellowish" photo is an exact match for the orange theme on my Focus.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Schismal:
That's definitely possible. I feel the green pic offers more compelling evidence anyway. ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] NOMIOMI:
is the game and software are same like android or not and i want to know that what is the feature of wp7 is it equal to android os in gaming and softwares modding hacking ????
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
One more thing - no Flash in IE9....

We need this 10000 more than SkyDrive.
[Windows Phone 7 General] powersquad:
no we do not. out of 1,000,000 normal people, there is only 1 odd person who wants flash on an smartphone. video apps like youtube, dailymotion do the job just fine. 1% of the population spends time watching videos embedded on websites on an smartphone but the rest use dedicated apps.

and HTML5 is the way to go.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
This.

HTML5 is great and all, but Flash is the technology current websites use. I don't understand why they couldn't put HTML5 back until it's more widely adopted, and use the time to implement Flash which is widely adopted right now. Crazy.

Eh? BBC News, Engadget, Pocketnow? I don't see why we should have 30,000 apps for the one purpose?

Also, I don't want to find a video I like on a website, see a big dirty message, close the browser, open the Youtube app, search for it, open it. You see how that is not a nice user experience, right?

And like I said, HTML5 is the future. Flash is what we have now.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Yeah right. I think it's rather you beeing odd person refusing to admit this is basic technology present on mobiles for years. That's why it's still the most used on web.

Everybody watches embedded videos when they are visible instead of white spot. It's obvious and super handy. Watching websites with white spots instead of videos is totally dumb experience. Using 20 apps for 20 pages is even more dumb, and what about the ones which are not having apps? Laughable excuse.

And it does't provide any webbrowsing flow. As @Blade0rz stated above.

Flash is CURRENTLY the technology. HTML is a future MAYBE replacing Flash in 1 or rather 2 years. Than we can talk.

BTW it's always funny seeing people twisting senses and turning the discussion. I asked about flash not HTML.

Your argumentation is not consequent at all. 90% of people don't care about office docs on phone, why to bother developing it etc.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Following your logic, 99% of "normal" people don't know what xda-devs is.

Why don't you join this overwhelming majority of "normal" people and stop writing here?

Nothing against you, juts pointing your logic is totally wrong.

Smartphones are for different people.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vicious2500:
There's a Facebook IM app that runs Facebook chat by itself...
[Windows Phone 7 General] hamzie:
Can someone explain this for me please:

So some of us.. have created a new hotmail account to set as our primary.. just because we dont want the 100s of msn contacts in our phone contact list.

So how will msn integration work?

Can i add another account and then link accounts or will it use my primary one (which has 0 msn friends) ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] xDomsx:
If HTML5 works on most of videos, there isn't any special need for Flash.

Flash uses a lot of resources => battery drain

I heard that Flash on Android chokes most of phones (low conf on phone).

HTML5 isn't very demanding on resources => less battery drain.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
It doesn't :) The big players, as mentioned, have HTML5 versions (Youtube, Dailymotion) but the majority of websites use Flash.

When I was on Android I used to be like "pfft, I wouldn't even notice if I didn't have Flash!" and now that I don't have it I realise just how much it completes the web browsing experience.
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonshines:
As far as I'm aware Flash supports it's own .flv video format and H.264 format. HTML5 video doesn't specify a codec to use, some HTML5 browsers support the H.264 codec (IE9), others support Ogg Theora (Chrome). If a Flash video is in H.264 then in theory it should work as an HTML5 (video) in IE9, but not in other browsers. If, IE9 for WP7 is built with the same performance as the IE9 for desktop, chances are some Flash Videos can be played provided they are in the supported video container/format.

Im not sure though. Lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] munkeyphyst:
I have more than one email account on my phone. The primary, my hotmail, and my wife's, a msn account. You choose what parts of the secondary account you want to sync. I don't want her contacts on my phone and I don't want to read her junk emails, :), so I only sync the calendar from that account.

EDIT: btw, shouldn't the title for this thread be changed to "Windows Phone 7.1 “Mango” feature list and demos"
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
You are correct. It's the container that's the issue here in that most websites will use Flash to allow the user's browser to play the .flv. You can send .flv directly to the browser now using an HTML5 tag, but the problem is most sites currently don't do it this way. And unfortunately until the vast majority of the internet are using an HTML5 compliant browser, it will stay like this.