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[EVO 4G General] BloodKil:
To me I could never get my jailbroken Iphone to "a perfect experience" and before that it was pretty much a shiny object (read looked pretty but didnt do half of what I needed much less wanted) I got my evo looking just as great and as of now does everything that I need and most of what I want (the first 5" phone that also gives a decent bj will be mine)

Sad thing is I have a soon to be ex wife who was just like that (looked pretty but didnt do much) she is an iphone user and cant understand exactly what android is. My gf on the other hand actually looks hotter, has bigger tits (read the screen size I would be left wanting with iphone) is edging up to my payscale (she hit 56k last year where the other decided she needed some time to sit home) and better than all those things is a devout android user and is interested in flashing the latest and greatest roms.

thats just crazy talk... I want a 5" screen ;)
[EVO 4G General] psabo05:
could not get hell no out of my mouth fast enough
[EVO 4G General] Landara:
I love iphones. Had one since they were released, switched to android like 2 months ago. The folks in here bashing it and calling it a piece of **** are really just showing themselves to be just as argumentative and just as fan-boy/cliquey as they accuse Apple fans of being. iPhones are great phones and Sprint getting them would be huge, they would be selling the most popular phone on the market and with lower prices and better contracts than anyone else. This would help Sprint, and that will help us! People WILL switch. I won't know till I see the specs on the new model. 4-inch screen is a MUST for me. 64gb internal flash would be a must as well. WiMax is gonna be required also. If it adds those things I may very well switch myself) but I don't have an upgrade so I am undecided. Iphone has a far better camera, takes far better video, has a way better screen and having pure flash as opposed to a slow SD card is a nice plus. And there is no question that the apps are better. Likely I will stick with my Evo or possibly buy a different phone(NO chance of it being a EVO 3D).
[EVO 4G General] scorpio1107:
Wouldn't touch an Iphone with a 10 foot pole...
[EVO 4G General] ItsLasher:
Just a question. If they are to most popular phone on the market then why does Apple only have a 20% (and dropping) market share while Android enjoys a 40%+ share (and climbing) in the market.

Seems the most popular would have a much larger number if not the highest even.
[EVO 4G General] Ryjabo:
The Apple haters in this thread make me laugh.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Word play.

Android is a platform with hundreds of different phones.

IPhone is a phone lineup.

More people have an iPhone than an evo.

More people have an iPhone than a Droid series phone.

Etc
[EVO 4G General] :
I would definately get an iPhone!!..... ya right! When Unicorns fly out of my ars, lol.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Like someone mentioned, it's pretty much iPhone vs a army of Android phones. On top of that, and this is very important, market share != popularity/quality. Is a Optimus S as good as a iPhone 4? How about those new FB HTC Android phones? I can go on and name a ton of wack budget Android phones which in some cases are some of the best selling Android phones in the market. Android does a better job at capturing the low end market. Just as how Windows did with laptops.

Cheap or budget minded consumers will likely flock to Android just by default.
[EVO 4G General] ecartmen:
i remember that tmobile said the biggest reason they are selling out to att is that they (Tmobile) had no chance of getting the iphone. I believe this is even in the merger report application to the government. So if the merger does not happen then would apple not release the phone or would it be a one time thing were they only get the 4s? I dont see tmobile ever getting the iphone. I think they are simply only having development models to see how the phone works for testing reasons only...
[EVO 4G General] liverstealerJobs:
What are you talking about? The hottest selling android phones are the high end ones. Way more powerful and functional than the ones apple sells. And what is wrong with the low end ones? You much be part of the privileged elite. I am glad of the choices, including those dirty cheap phones you oh so knowingly hold your nose above. Hey, I am getting one for my mom. Helps both of us out that it will be so disgustingly cheap.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
You can buy a iphone 3gs for 99 dollars new at att, gtfho, lol
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Nice, another guy with assumptions.

I bought TWO Optimus S' for my parents (which by the way is one of the best selling Android models out there). I don't get how you interpreted my post that way, ah, I know, you see what you want to see. Anyway, my point is that the motivation behind getting a low end phone is very different and doesn't point to a preference towards a better functioning phone. So just because 40% of the market belongs to Android doesn't mean that it's the popular choice, at least not in the sense of quality. I'm sure that if a high end phone like the EVO 3D costed $29.99 and on a cheap data plan, you'd completely overlook whatever phone you are planning to buy for your mom.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Okay? You can get Android phones for FREE. Or on cheap plans like virgin, boost etc.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Why would Apple put wimax in it the one on Verizon doesn't say its lte and it could have been
[EVO 4G General] nsxla:
Hard for me to believe Apple will release an updated version of iPhone for sprint unless all carriers are getting the dual core.

I would buy an iPhone on sprint for sister or mom.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
They won't put WIMAX in this next version. The 4Gs will be the exact same form factor, likely with dual core processors and will be released on all carriers. No bigger screen, no 4G, just faster - hence the '4s.' The iPhone 5 on the other hand will likely have both of these two things and possibly 3D (yes, Apple has been working on 3D tech of their own for the iPad, computers, and likely the iPhone).
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
So if this next one 4s comes without 4g and all of you will jump ship for that? And I know many places don't have 4g but I'm sure there will be more places popping up w 4g I'm sure
[EVO 4G General] liverstealerJobs:
So the point is there is no point. Especially when discussing low end or high end phones. Android is beating all comers up and down the price range. (Think Thunderbolt sales vs iphone on Verizon). As a mostly agnostic nerd (except for my absolute hatred for Apple), it is breathtaking just watching it. I don't see another platform slowing this behemoth down. And frankly, I enjoy watching and participating.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
What you're saying is why apple HAS to open up the iPhone to all carriers*

*Unless the FCC allows the destruction of the fair market.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
I laughed also lol. Its very sad man...tisk tisk

Android is just getting boring to me, yes they're the leading os but look how many phones it took them to get there....how many did it take apple? Just one my friends just one.
[EVO 4G General] phillysdon04:
The other weekend my cousin asked me to pull up a video on Youtube. I attempt to play a video but it just kept loading. I took his Iphone out of his pocket, entered his password and unlocked it, typed the video the name of the video we were looking for, started playing the video with just 1 click. This whole time my video was still loading. I felt like sh!^.lol

After this episode I would be willing to try the Iphone if Sprint gets it.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Couldve been a network issue as well... in which case the device wouldnt matter.

Tapa tapa tapa
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
I don't know the actual numbers for the Thunderbolt vs VZW iPhone, but I can assure you of two things. Not only would 4S shatter every Apple record, when it's released on all four carriers (AT&T first day sales for i4 was insane), Android flagship device on those same carriers combined won't match those iphone numbers. Android is killing the game right now, but iphone on all carriers will be a huge, huge, problem for Google.

Sent from the HTC Sensation 4G.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
I dont think its about the number of phones but rather carriers. If google was in the hardware business and made just one phone available to all, Android may have done just as well. I think every os will get boring eventually. Thus, 1 device with the ability to boot multiple oses, especially android and ios, would be ideal. This would only be possible/legal on an iphone.

Tapa tapa tapa
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
It will certainly be a game changer. It will be interesting to see who is on top in 2-3 years once the iPhone has been available to all for some time...

Does anyone know how many iPhones have sold on VZW to date?
[EVO 4G General] j.price:
TBolt is a pos iPhone gets here monday
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
My understanding is its been a pretty big fail.
[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
LOL, dirk. (nice to see ya 'round these parts)

I was going to whip up a post re: how much logic fail is in that statement, but then I saw it was you, and I like you.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I remember reading they only took about 20% of AT&T's customers. Don't know how many AT&T iPhones there are but 20% of that would be Verizons number.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
It didnt pull ATT numbers but that's not surprising, its a half+ year old model. That said, market growth numbers came in and Android growth slowed down for the first time ever. What was the largest factor credited to that? The Verizon iPhone.
[EVO 4G General] Kal*El:
I am DRoid for LIFE!

I had a blackberry then came to droid... I had the iphone iphone 2 and to be continued iphones.

I hate Iphone and I will remain a hater... I can see if I never had one but I have.. And to the comment about how many phones it took Droid... Make sure you know your history.. Most phones already had simple features like copy, cut, paste etc.. it wasnt until the iphone 2, 3 that it was able to do simple functions other phones already had.

Apple is greedy... If you want to ride the apple sac of jobs then im sure there are forums for over priced paying dorks...

No one tells me how to customize my phone... how many iphones has it taken to put a simple background on the phone.. it wasnt until the 4th release that wallpaper is now showing...

what about folders.... see droid has/had this already... most phones do...

Keep in mind do take advantage of the extra features a jailbroken phone is required...

droid market is not so butt tight as the iphone market is.. apple is greedy and droid market caters to this forum and me.. open development... can apple say that.. no.

so even if it did come to sprint i wouldnt switch.. my droids OS is way better than nick nack mac-e mac give the jobs an apple..

So droid is on my side....

I dont overpay for nothing.... and im not that dork that sits for the next release of apple to be the same thing with one thing newer.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Strange, I remember reading that the biggest place they took customers from was Sprint and those numbers weren't very high.

20% of att iPhone customers seems high.
[EVO 4G General] jayharper08:
Very well said. My feelings exactly.

Sent from "The EVO" using XDA Premium
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Lol I try to show my face every now and then. I had a nexus s for about 2 weeks but I gave it to my girlfriend and took her evo now I have 2! Its good to know I have at least "friend" on here since the rest either want me dead or to catch genital warts lmfao.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Always important to have a "friend" on XDA :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] Kal*El:
this is exactly why I am DROID for life.... You wanna see a big apple sac rider... check out you tube and search locker gnome... Talk about a ride or die apple kisser... funny part.. he doesnt work for the company...LOL
[EVO 4G General] jayharper08:
Checking it now :)

Sent from "The EVO" using XDA Premium
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Lol ohhh matty I didn't forget you :batting eye lashes: you know we hang like two old titties...
[EVO 4G General] EgoistMusketeer:
If att destroys tmobile then ill turn to sprint but the I phone would really need to step up its game to be enticing. Eg. Bigger screen, dual core and I need an app drawer, I can't stand ios all out there icons
[EVO 4G General] cyaiphone:
That's the beauty of Android. You have choice/options! Unilke Apple. How many phones did it take apple to allow multitasking, folders, a simple wallpaper? was it 4? yea i believe so it was 4 and I had every one of them.

What you say is really nonsense. If there's any OS that gets boring it's iOS. i mean what can you really do on your iphone to make it more exciting? change your wallpaper? reorganize your folders? change your case color? On Android we can change our themes, fonts, widgets, etc........ **** we can even change our whole operating system! We can go back and forth from several and I mean SEVERAL great roms that gives us a whole new phone. It's laughable to think someone could say Android gets boring and then mention apple in the same sentence.
[EVO 4G General] cyaiphone:
its consumers like you that think because you pay a certain price for something you're actually getting a better product. it's hilarious :D
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Honestly, and I'm not interested in getting into the apple v android discussion, you're absolutely right.

Just because you pay more doesn't mean the product is better.
[EVO 4G General] cyaiphone:
Lets ignore apple vs android

anyone thinking they got a better product based on price alone has a whole lot of learning to do. They are more likely to be screwed in our market.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
While a higher price does not necessarily mean a better product, there is truth to the saying: "you get what you pay for."
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I think that quote is really only true on the REALLY low pricing end of the spectrum.

If you pay $30 for something that's supposed to be $200...yeah I think we know why.

However, I can charge you $5000 for a bowl of soup [you think I'm joking but there's a local place that has a bowl of soup for that price]...doesn't mean it's worth it.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
I would buy the phone (brand new), wrap it in toilet paper, wipe my ass with it, then throw it the toilet and flush. :D

Sent from my Evolution!
[EVO 4G General] diomark:
Two years ago I would have considered it..

now? No way.

-mark
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
While I agree that it is not true with everything, it is true with a lot. Here are a few examples:

Cars: Mercedes v Toyota

Toyota makes very nice, reliable vehicles. So does Mercedes-Benz. The difference is the level of refinement and technology found in a Mercedes. Toyota's luxury line, Lexus, is advertising safety features and "innovations" that were present in Mercedes over 10 years ago. Sure with European cars you are paying some for the labor considering the Euro is worth more than the dollar, but you are also paying for the additional features you receive in these cars.

Clothes: Polo v Hanes

My plain white Polo t-shirts are softer, and last longer than those from Hanes.

Food:

$5000 dollars for a bowl of soup is pretty steep. However, I have dined at two Michelin 3 star restaurants and 1 2 star and those restaurants aren't cheap. In fact, last summer at Guy Savoy my wife and I enjoyed a bowl of black truffle, artichoke and parmesan soup that was $95/bowl - truffles, as you may know, aren't cheap. The ingredients, technique, and training that goes into the food at a Michelin restaurant are second to none and there is a reason this food is more expensive and you will not get this experience anywhere else for less.

Electronics:

We recently put a home theater in our basement. After shopping around projectors, speakers, receivers, and screens we noticed a difference in cost and quality. In fact, they seemed to correlate almost linearly.

In some arenas, cost does not = quality. But there is good reason that some things cost more than others.

Also, overpaying for something that is over priced is not the same. Thus your example of paying $200 dollars for something that should cost $30 is irrelevant.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I understand what you're saying.

All I'm trying to suggest is the quote "you get what you pay for" is MORE applicable lower end pricing than it is to higher end pricing.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
I won't buy an apple product on principle. Yes they're overpriced but they also have a policy of screwing the customer every chance they get and all of their stuff is built at the same plant in china that was putting viruses into the firmware of Dell motherboards. The company is greed incarnate and as anti-consumerism as it gets.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Fair enough.
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
I wont switch to the iPhone ....the iPhone has a nice UI but that's about it ...I really don't like the rest of the features on the phone.....especially having to use iTunes to control some of the phones functions...I'll stick with android....maybe I'll give windows phone 7 a try if sprint comes out with a 4g windows phone 7 device.
[EVO 4G General] dahauss:
One reason I won't buy an iphone is that the battery isn't replaceable. Battery dies you are screwed. On evo I don't need to but I can exchange batteries if there is an issue. $300 phone and when battery dies theres no way to replace.
[EVO 4G General] superm3:
never...att, verizon, an apple are my enemies..
[EVO 4G General] Ryjabo:
ITT: people that don't understand what the word "subjective" means.

Also ITT: people thinking that something is "superior" simply because they prefer it.

ITT means "in this thread"

I happen to think that the iPhone4 is pretty badass. The *only* thing I don't like about it is:

1. The screen is too small (even though it's gorgeous)

2. Right now it's only available on AT&T (eww!) and Verizon (family plans are too expensive)

Seriously though... what part of "To each, his own" do people not understand?

The iPhone4 is great for what it is, and like their slogan... "It Just Works". When I think about it, sometimes I envy the iPhone4 user in that they don't have to spend time screwing around with layouts and home screens, flashing from ROM to ROM because one is buggy, one doesn't have 4G, or this or that, or the compatibility and performance issues that vary greatly when you consider an app versus the OS version and hardware (you KNOW it happens more on Android). If the Android OS was good enough and polished enough, this community wouldn't even exist in larger fashion than themes and skins.

Apple's approach is a different one. They said, "Here's the phone. This is the OS. This is the hardware. These are the specs. Etc. Make something that will run efficiently on this phone, or GTFO" -- you get a MUCH better user experience because of that. User experience is something that Apple and ol' Steve understand very well. Not to mention the closer attention they pay to what goes into the Appstore.

TL;DR -- I can destroy so many of the comments made in this thread about why "Android is better than iPhone" quite simply because something doesn't apply to me, or another person, or it's something about the phone or OS that not everyone uses or cares about. If you don't want an iPhone, don't get one. If you think Android is better, I'm very happy for you.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
TL;GH

;)
[EVO 4G General] lyrical1278:
While I have jailbroken and/or rooted both Android and iOS phones, I find Android to be more flexible in that department. ALso with alot more options and things that can be done to and with the phone.

People were saying, for the longest time, the thing that was holding back the iPhone was the carrier. but now the iPhone is on a carrier people have dreamed of it going to for a long time. People get too caught up in immediacy to stop and think people might not want to incur those ETF fees JUST to switch to Verizon in todays economy.

Would I jump ship from Android to the iPhone if it came to Sprint, I know my wife might, I wouldn't. But the phone she has longed for is something along the lines of an updated Touch Pro 2 since she loved that keyboard.

Neither OS is perfect so I judge each on the the merits of what would I be doing with that phone in a year? With Android, if it is supported by the devs here at XDA, I can almost promise that every week my phone will feel new and that excites me.

The only thing iOS products have going for them is that they are made for your everyday consumer. Something Android still has a ways to go on. People can't sit there and say when they buy an iOS product you are stuck in Apple;s ecosystem. Buy an Andoid and you are stuck in Google's ecosystem and it's the same way with WIndows 7.

So what does that leave me with besides the new ROMs and such? As a basic consumer and not a techie, I want open ness. I want to know that I don't have to download anything extra just to be able to use all the features of my phone while it is bone stock.

I just want to plug my phone to my computer and drag and drop my music and files on it and go. I don't want to have to open anything extra, download file or drivers, constantly have to update some program. I want TOTAL EASE OF USE.

Now, while the iPhone is hands down the easiest phone to use out of the three phone OS, it is not the easiest to use in terms of phone to PC connectivity. Without iTunes, it's only being charged. Without iTunes or any media player, an Android phone is rocking. And in some ways, I haven't used a WIn7 phone so someone will have to educate me on this one.

People want open ness and that is why things like locked down bootloaders and such become big news. I don't want some company who doesn't know me to tell me this is what I have to accept. HTC is getting close to that point and that is making my decision to get a Evo 3D an even harder decision to make.

That is not something I want to support.

Do I applaud Apple for helping to bring the smartphone back to the forefront of the consumer mind? Yes I do. Do I applaud them for making what I consider to be a quality product that does, in alot of ways, stand out amongst it's peers? Yes I do.

The iPhone is a quality device. I'm just more of the mindset that the iPhone does everything good (combined in one device), but put them all separately and it doesn't even measure up to some lower end phones or mp3 players (it is, in my opinion, a terrible mp3 player, the phone's audio quality could be a ton better)

/rant
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Wait, the iPhone has a UI?
[EVO 4G General] Ryjabo:
iTunes isn't hard to use. It isn't rocket science. And if you're like me with thousands upon thousands of mp3's in your music library, having something that keeps everything clean and organized for you in an interface that easy (+ it syncs up with your device already) is priceless.

Are you kidding? My 6th Gen iPod Nano puts out WAY better sound than my EVO...
[EVO 4G General] Klk450:
Well both OS's have their good and bad. I'ma list the bad for android: The platform suffers from Fragmentation which Google plans to fix with the Ice cream update but for now it still stands which affect the quality of the app market and ecosystem. 2. Would be update cycles because of companies putting skins on the platform making it so we have no clue when we could get the latest version of Android which messes the purpose of having so many quantity of phones with the platform when it effects the quality. Those to me are the most fuc*ed up things with Android currently but at the same it's what makes it open source and i like it to some extend unlike having no choice at all.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
I can't stand how everything looks the same. Either its sense or AOSP. Both have been the same since day 1, with little modifications.

My upgrade is due in August, and most likely going to WP7. I love Android and all, but it might be time to try something else (seeing as my last 3 phones have been Android).