yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 4G Android Development] JDV28:
There are WAYY too many oversensitive kids in here, (h20 & manning) I'd rather not get banned because they went crying the mods saying i "sounded mean" when I helped someone haha, pathetic, i know. +1 neidlinger

EDIT: I hit the "thanks" button a few times for the people who can act semi-mature and dont search for insult in everyones words.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] PureH2O:
Im over it. Lol
[myTouch 4G Android Development] JDV28:
Im glad :)

Back to the topic of this thread though,

you guys think I should return it to t-mobile and hope to get one with the good chip?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Towle:
I would. IMO it's worth it just so you have a better chance of not having issues later on.

Sent from my Royal Ginger powered Glacier
[myTouch 4G Android Development] JDV28:
Alright, since I paid for that extra, supposedly "extensive" warranty from tmo, what should i say is wrong?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Towle:
Tell them the phone freezes up all the time and the touch screen stops working. One thing you want to be sure to tell them is that you have done a factory reset and it still has problems. If you don't say you did a reset then they will make you do one and tell you to try it out for about a week.

Sent from my Royal Ginger powered Glacier
[myTouch 4G Android Development] JDV28:
Thank you very much, of course ill have to flash that nice little pd15img first haha.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] kimbernator:
Hey, just for any experienced members, let's just start recommending the root.sh/visionary method to beginners or anyone wanting to root? At least until we find the overall cause of this?

just recommend this link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=834225

I know many of you want gfree instead because of "real" s-off but at this point everyone who's had issues mounting partitions/Fail-PU have used gfree. It might just be coincidence but for now let's stay safe?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] crawler9:
Doesn't visionary fail for those who don't have the good chip?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] JDV28:
Yea, that's what quite a few people have said here. Good point.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Phateless:
Yeah, check out the poll results. The bad chip won't root with visionary.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] acsi007:
UsrBkp or PermROOT or whomever the little devil is and some others have brought up the topic that it is unrelated to gfree, so this might as you say, be a coincidental statistical thing, not a required warning.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] mark manning:
Ya usrbksp and the g2 devs have isolated the problem. The root process may matter but as of now the prob lies with the emmc chip. So basically its a quality issue on HTC part

I think the gfree does matter tho. So as of now root with visionary
[myTouch 4G Android Development] JDV28:
Been a few weeks since it was confirmed to be the eMMC chip, but as you would see if you would read what the people who are actually WORKING on this are saying...they have made **NO** link between the issues and the gfree method. As of now, its a small coincidence w/ NO evidence to back it up. Read the thread through and through and you'll see what I'm saying. Gfree is very effective as its the only way to get true s=off and whatnot, and it works with the semo4g chips.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] acsi007:
It seems to me, BOTH methods root with visionary:

Root.sh method uses visionary to temproot, root.sh to break radio security (and hb085), then visionary to make root permanent.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=834225

gfree method uses visionary to temproot, gfree for radio s=off, then visionary again to then actually make root permanent.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=858996

It would be good to refer to them this way, not gree vs. visionary, since that's not accurate.

Regarding using trying root.sh before using gfree, I think that indeed is the prevailing advice for those whose units respond to the root.sh method.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] JDV28:
Sorry, but its how EVERYONE has been referring to them. its one word names opposed to sentence-long descriptions. It keeps it simple, most people can understand what they mean too. But good point lol
[myTouch 4G Android Development] kimbernator:
Is it possible that rooting with gfree, being more invasive, opens the emmc chip up to errors like this? with visionary no change is actually made to it, but with gfree it actually makes changes.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] JDV28:
they both make changes to it actually. quite a few, too. gfree does a bit more because it gets S=OFF
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Phateless:
So I just used gfree to root a phone that wouldn't respond to visionary/eng hboot without it. Sure enough, this one has the 2.10 "bad" chip.

I'm thinking it's safe to assume that if the phone won't respond to the "visionary" or wpx.ko method, then it is the "bad" chip.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] acsi007:
Root.sh vs. gfree is sentences long? Truth is, people who throw the wrong words around just confuse people. No offense to you, I'm just happy that people here have helped me, it's just that repeatedly referring to it in an incomplete way makes people spend all the more time finding out what's what.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Phateless:
I agree, root.sh is not too long to type and worth it for the clarity it provides. Otherwise we don't know wtf each other are saying.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] JDV28:
I was referring to the fact that you originally suggested the whole explanation which was,,

sentences long

.

Anyways, it does make a lot more sense i guess. Good thinking!

Im in favor of the change.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] PureH2O:
Yes I agree I only recommend visionary root method. Gfree scares me.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dcwiker05:
I have a confirmed failed device. PM me if I can help!
[myTouch 4G Android Development] saranhai:
has any SEM04G eMMCs been confirmed to have died?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
OK i'm here. I need to install ADB to see what chip I exactly have but let me tell you my story.

I received a MT4G in February this year from T-Mobile. I tried using Visionary and got TEMP ROOT. However, when I did the root.sh it did not work. root.sh DOES NOT work on devices with a certain date in the BOOTLOADER. Mine had an September date. My friend had a MT4G also and he got it earlier and the root.sh method worked for him. His was labeled October something. In order for me to get ROOT I had to use GFree. As you know there are several GFree versions. Some of them DO NOT work for the MT4G. I believe it was either 02 or 04 that worked for the MT4G. 05 Works for the G2. Now I haven't had any issues here. I actually re-locked down my MT4G and my friends MT4G using GFree also as this can be done. Since I wasn't able to re-lock it down with the Stock ROM PD15IMG. I have used GFree on a G2 as well it did have some issues however with a 1 ROM. But using PSNEUTER seemed to fix that.

I do have issues with FASTBOOT. I can't seem to access it as it is DENIED.

It says "M4G2DE". Oh my.

This was outputed in Recovery (Using Windows 8 Build 7955):

<3>[ 8.475952] mmc0: No card detect facilities available

<6>[ 8.476409] mmc0: Qualcomm MSM SDCC at 0x00000000a0500000 irq 98,0 dma 8

<6>[ 8.476623] mmc0: Platform slot type: MMC

<6>[ 8.476745] mmc0: 4 bit data mode disabled

<6>[ 8.476867] mmc0: 8 bit data mode enabled

<6>[ 8.477081] mmc0: MMC clock 144000 -> 50000000 Hz, PCLK 96000000 Hz

<6>[ 8.477172] mmc0: Slot eject status = 0

<6>[ 8.477386] mmc0: Power save feature enable = 1

<6>[ 8.477508] mmc0: DM non-cached buffer at ffa0d000, dma_addr 0x0bc79000

<6>[ 8.477722] mmc0: DM cmd busaddr 0x0bc79000, cmdptr busaddr 0x0bc79300

<6>[ 8.635345] mmc0: new high speed MMC card at address 0001

<6>[ 8.636535] mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 M4G2DE 2.10 GiB

There are devices that have a September month on their MT4G with 0.86 HBOOT. The ones from October have 0.85 HBOOT.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jigajay:
Ok this is what I got in terminal Emulator and I did root the root.sh way I followed the direction through the unlockr I have not had any problems with my phone so far knock on wood I have no insurance and don't what I would do but I have flashed numerous roms but it looks like I'm affected with the bad chip
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Thats actually good. It says completed instead of failed but loads it multiple times. it happened on my device to in terminal but it also pulled up the info. If you enter it in terminal thats what will happen but using ADB in Recovery you won't receive that message.

OK I rebooted and re-did the command and it no longer showed up. It must show up after the device is on for awhile. So reboot your phone and try the dmesg | grep mmc0 again.

What I originally did to root was:

Downloaded Visionary: http://www.mediafire.com/?xhwc5m7f273l7b2

Put Visionary on the SD and installed.

Opened Visionary and select the options "Run visionary.sh after root", "Set system r/w after root"

Then hit "Temproot now"

I downloaded gfree_02 from here: http://android.d3xt3r01.tk/cyanogen/common/

I put it on the SDCard. I used a file explorer such as ES File Explorer or Root Explorer. If Root Explorer is used make sure to hit "Mount R/W".

I moved the gfree_02.zip over to /data/local/ directory and extracted there and removed the .zip.

Then proceeded with these commands to run it:

su

cd /data/local

chmod 777 gfree

./gfree -f

Hit HOME button and back into visionary and select "Attempt permaroot now"

It should NOT say FAILED on booting the eMMC that should be a SUCCESS if it says FAILED then its 02. I'll test this later.

On devices that Visionary has an issue on I remember 1 MT4G in particular that had an issue. I had that person Factory Reset twice and try again and that solved it.

Can somebody explain whats on mmc1? There should only be the ROM and the SDCard but its at mmc2.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jigajay:
Yea i'd rather head towards the sensation.

But I wonder whats on mmc1 it says its ejected.

So what I know is:

mmc0 is 2.1GB ROM

mmc1 is ?

mmc2 is SDCard which in my case says 15.4GB[/QUOTE]

I thought about the sensation but being I'm on pre-paid I usually buy a used phone I know the price for that phone will be a little to high for me now. Also did you mean for my phone what is mmc1
[myTouch 4G Android Development] tooter1:
I ran the second command and got this result:

<3>[ 5.645141] mmc0: No card detect facilities available

<6>[ 5.645599] mmc0: Qualcomm MSM SDCC at 0x00000000a0500000 irq 98,0 dma 8

<6>[ 5.645812] mmc0: Platform slot type: MMC

<6>[ 5.645935] mmc0: 4 bit data mode disabled

<6>[ 5.646148] mmc0: 8 bit data mode enabled

<6>[ 5.646270] mmc0: MMC clock 144000 -> 50000000 Hz, PCLK 96000000 Hz

<6>[ 5.646484] mmc0: Slot eject status = 0

<6>[ 5.646575] mmc0: Power save feature enable = 1

<6>[ 5.646697] mmc0: DM non-cached buffer at ffa0d000, dma_addr 0x0bb99000

<6>[ 5.646911] mmc0: DM cmd busaddr 0x0bb99000, cmdptr busaddr 0x0bb99300

<6>[ 5.797943] mmc0: new high speed MMC card at address 0001

<6>[ 5.799865] mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 M4G2DE 2.10 GiB

1. I'm pretty sure I used the gfree method to root.

2. Hboot - 0.85.2007

3. eMMC chip is M4G2DE (as noted above)

4. Haven't had any problems, that I have noticed.

Hope this helps out.

Edit: I just went through my files downloaded for my myTouch and, it seems that I used the Visionary/root.sh method for this one and the one with the bad display I used the gfree method (it got sent back for warranty). I didn't have a problem out of either one of them. Just the washed out display on the 1 sent back.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
No I wondered what mmc1 for the Glacier is? It does not have any info but is assigned w/ 8 bit data transfer enable, power save enabled and its eject status is enabled to 1. I have no clue what this partition is and seems to not be enabled.

Your HBOOT says 0.85.2007 what is the date set for that October or September? Mine was shipped with a HBOOT 0.86.0000. Now root.sh did not work for mine at all.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] droidhotspot:
Hi my name is Jason,

I am founder of DroidHotspot.com

I am looking for rooters nationwide. Everyone who joins forces with me will be able to do there own advertizing as a part of DroidHotspot.

Everyone will be their own boss and

everyone will get to KEEP EVERYTHING they make!!!

Everyone will help everyone.

We root android devices,provide a wireless tethering, unbrick (softbrick)android devices and do software upgrades..

Again you get to keep everything you make. I just want a nationwide team. Currently I have the Dallas/Ft. worth market.

I also do not want to be anyones boss..lol

I am cornering

Serious experienced rooters only.. I will not train you..Jason 214-477-1571
[myTouch 4G Android Development] ionic7:
Sooo bomb this number?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] everest.deth:
So what is the current workaround for bad chips? I have the bad one, and i am in fact stuck on the middle of nowhere. My Recovery will not let me flash anything (read the famous error of E:Can't mount /cache/recovery/command...and more bs), and i tried restoring via PD15IMG.zip but my installation is aborted right after it initialized, "Fail - PU". I do have the Eng Bootloader, but so far no command that i can think of will be able to take me out of my missery.

Attempting to overwrite any parition fails, Remote: image update error. Therefore changing the recovery is a no -go. Therefore, what am i to do now? :D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
In GFree you can try to undo some things and then re-do root in which power cycles the eMMC. I have to trace the instructions to do so. Since you can't seem to even flash a recovery even through ROM Manager. If you can through ROM Manager do it twice. HBOOT flash another option to try too. ./gfree -s may work to power cycle the eMMC S=OFF/ON then do it again. Then open visionary turn on System R/W attempt permaroot and try to goto stock in bootloader. I wish I had your phone I would try to fix it. Each malfunctional is different and the procedure to fix could be very weird. I've delt with one before and fixed it.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] everest.deth:
If you can enlighten me on how to use gfree somewhere else that is not terminal emulator then i'd be glad to try. At this point i cannot get my ROM to boot normally, i can only get to recovery, or HBOOT. However, the recovery will not flash anything, whether it'd be a new ROM, a backup, or any other related .zip; and on HBOOT, i can only attempt to restore to stock via the PD15IMG.zip but that is a no go, "Fail - PU".

Attempting to overwrite the current recovery for some other one is a no-go as well, "Remote: Cannot write blah" lol :(

What are people telling T-Mobile reps when attempting to get their phones replaced? lol I feel stupid acting like i do not know what happened, and that i do not know that due to a manufacturer ignored error i am having this phone bricked .-.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] 3p4145:
I rooted using the Gfree method

Is there any merit in trying to "unroot" and then re-root using the root.sh? There are no issues currently but is it worth the trouble to avoid future issues? or am I just increasing my chances of a Fkcu-UP?

Also if i do "unroot" will I loose the SimUnlock?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] guhl99:
Hi !

You will gain nothing and you will not loose simunlock if you don't restore your partition 7.

You can undo radio S-OFF doing

./gfree -s on

But as i said you will gain nothing. Even if some of you can't believe it it does not make a difference if you are radio S-OFF (gfree) or fake S-OFF (root.sh).

We have confirmed cases of the dead emmc chip with

- fake S-OFF

- no S-OFF at all (unrooted devices)

So face it this is a pure hardware issue that also happened on the thunderbolt.

The reason why i does not happen on the SEM04 chip that this is a 4GB chip used in 2GB mode for extra failure prevention, while the bad chip is a 2GB chip.

Have fun - Guhl
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
I was able to restore it w/o it. GFree was my only option to root. At first I tried root.sh but the newer devices root.sh does not even touch the S=ON. I had an issu e with my device at one point to where I fiddled around with it for several hours and was able to fix the problem. I also know of another MT4G which was the older model that took the root.sh but there were problems with it also to the point on restoring S=ON caused issue to where the ROM on it began malfunctioning. I had taken my friend through some weird steps into restoring it to a perfect functioning device and in the end it was successfully. My chip has not failed and I have that eMMC. I had actually restored my device using GFree and I locked everything back up manually and then went back to stock using PD15IMG. Then I used Visionary again to gain temproot/GFree to re-unlock in which created yet another partition 7. Then my problems were gone. GFree power cycles the eMMC during adding/removing protection. It can add the protection back and remove it. In which is what I did. I think some of us did not select System R/W when rooting.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Is it a bootloop? or stuck on boot screen?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] everest.deth:
Stuck on the boot screen
[myTouch 4G Android Development] JoeSzymkowicz:
I tried installing the Engineering boot through recovery adb. I got this error:

dd: writing '/dev/block/mmcblk0p18': I/O error

1+0 records in

0+0 records out

0 bytes (0B) copied, 2.096008 seconds, 0B/s

Anyone know whats going on?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] sadsac:
Gutted - Ive just checked and I have the dodgy emmc, thank god Ive been ultra careful with battery pulls etc, thanks for the instructions on how to check...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jaysun3000:
I rooted 2 Glaciers the gfree method....I have the the bad chip I've known about it from the day I started researching root methods which I studied for a month or so and rooted anyways...the other Glacier I have no idea if it has the bad chip it probably does since I bought it the same time I did this one.....0.86 downloader on both...I think that's what it is...I've flashed at least 4 Roms on this one and 2 on the other no issues...knock on wood...however I do remember the second Glacier restarting more then once during the code input in terminal emulator but still turned out fine I just picked up where I left off each time .....my heart gets pumping when I do flash a new Rom because I know of the bad chip but whatever I do it anyways...its not hard to follow directions I'm sure thats part of the problem...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jr_718:
i remember downgrading to 2.2.1, used visionary to gain perm root, checked emmc(bad), flashed sense 3.5 ROM and radio.. still going strong till today(about 3months now)..I've read where some people with no root ended up with bricked phone..so some mysteries are still in the air..
[myTouch 4G Android Development] guhl99:
Hi!

There is no mystery at all. It is a pure hardware problem.

We have cases for unrooted devices, and with all kinds of rooting methods. Even cases on incredible s rooted with the xtc-clip and with revolutionary.

If you have that chip it might happen or not. The more you write the higher the probability.

If it happens send it to HTC it will be replaced.

Have fun - Guhl
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jr_718:
Lol.. I was just saying.. anyway.. if I called HTC will they send me the phone first or I have to send in ny phone before they send me another phone?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] guhl99:
Hi !

You will have to send in your phone first.

Only T-Mobile (and maybe some other carriers if you got the phone from your carrier) cross-shipped phones.

But if you have a regular HTC phone you have to send the phone in first and wait for it. Normally if you have the broken chip they will not send you a new phone but replace the motherboard.

Have fun - Guhl
[myTouch 4G Android Development] alecoddlyiv:
is there any other way to check thisplease? I would not know where to begin with adb?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] G8351427:
Seriously dude? You quoted the answer to your own question...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
Just open up terminal emulator (available on the market) and type those lines in.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] brandonsisco:
[Resolved] Found a solution

Followed these steps, device reported "Deferred resume failed", and then I resolved the issue with the following.

Fixed on my G2 by using two fastboot commands.

1. fastboot oem rebootRUU

2. fastboot flash zip PC10IMG_Vision_TMOUS_2.15.531.3_Radio_12.52.60.25U_26.08.04.30_M3.zip'

Please let me know the success rate for you
[myTouch 4G Android Development] everest.deth:
How would that apply to the MT4G? Only the RUU part perhaps, but the Vision radio you mentioned would not work for a Mt4g.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] cool2cool:
hi,

i didnt get is the emmc problem occurring when u try to root or it can happen any time if u try to flash firmwares ?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djluis48:
Hi, i just installed CM7, and ,was messing around with the camera app, and i noticed that it had a FFC option, but of course, my phone didn't have one, so the app FCed, and now it FC everytime i try to open it.

Also, i didn't like the stock Camera app, but i loved the one that was in Bionix-V, is there a way to change CM7's camera app and use Bionix V's? Thanks!!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geoffcorey:
The fc issue, I'm not sure.how to fix. I'd suggest in cwm that you do a factory reset.

As for the bionix camera, there is no way at all because CM7 has no sign at all of touchwiz and never will.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djluis48:
Ok, found out how to do it, just went to Menu->Settings->Applications->Manage Applications->All->Camera-> Clear Data. Pretty Simple.

Aw, i would love to have that Camera App...the stock one looks a little...stock (ugly).
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bulletproof1013:
hello im on the manual nootered 1.2, i need a stock build prop file. thanks in advance

edit i got one. thanks
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] brodos123:
Hi

I am looking for a totally black wallpaper for my S2 but cant find one.

Does anybody know where I can find a black wallpaper 480x800?

Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Ce:
I just made a low res picture with the camera and my hand for the lense, was very black.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] BlueScreenJunky:
Actually the correct size for wallpapers is 960*800. But here you are (took me about 5 seconds with paint :)
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] moco22:
photo.... taped to the camera
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] El Salvador:
Lol, sometimes people are way too lazy!
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] brodos123:
Thanks!!

Why is the correct size for wallpapers 960*800?

The screen is 480x800 isnt it?
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] brodos123:
:-)

Yes, I may be lazy, but there are many shades of black! I want a pitch black wallpaper;)
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] JJEgan:
Take a photo of the pitch black or even try Google Images .

jje
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] BoogWeed:
:eek::eek::eek:
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] BlueScreenJunky:
Yes, the screen is 480x800, but it scrolls horizontally when you use several desktop, so the wallpaper has to be larger :-)
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Café King:
Rofl... Brilliant! :D

/CK
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] AXIS of Reality:
You do realise...if the image is totally black it may as well be at a resolution of 1 x 1 pixel, since IT'S JUST BLACK. ;)
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] subvertbeats:
You could use the free app 'colors'
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Stitch!:
I was just thinking that, plus you can do this in one second in paint. Anyway its good to see new people on XDA I guess. :D