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[Off-topic] dexter93:
If you see a painting of Picasso and another one of Da Vinci side by side could you say who painted which painting? Of course you would because they had different styles. Did any of those guys just woke up one morning without ever having touched a brush, paint their so called masterpieces? They gradually saw how they like to draw and specialise into it, creating their unique style. That's about the same with photography. You shoot things that you like in the beginning but since you don't know what you want to do or how for sure, so you pretty much search and try lots of things until you get to know what exactly you want to shoot. Next step is to know how you will get that result. Here's where the criticism comes, it helps you on mastering the so called techniques and gradually let you create your own style;)

Remember: your creativity + skills that you develop make you an artist...

Sometimes we need some help on the skills part...
[Off-topic] Dirk:
There are easily over a Million decent amateur photographers in the world today. Half of those know how to take a good picture and edit it in Photoshop. Perhaps a hundred thousand of them, for arguments sake, are seriously good. The cream of the crop. In fifty years perhaps a few hundred will be considered 'artists'. The rest forgotten about.

So what's different with those few? Clearly the Million or so all know how to point and shoot. They all have the same skills. They all know how to use Photoshop. Is it 'He who takes the most pictures, stands the best chance'? Perhaps it's 'he who has the most money to visit exotic locations and do what nobody else can afford to do'?

Not really art though is it?

All i see is a large group of bog-standard photographers, passing themselves off as artists and criticising an even larger group of sub-standard photographers! Sorry, but unless you are one of the few names that people will be talking about in fifty years you are no better than anybody else in the profession. Sucks to be average, i know! The same applies to any profession. Not everyone gets to be Bill Gates or Steve Jobs either.

When you're Lichfield or Bailey you can look down your nose at people because you had the vision to do what the other million didn't. While everyone else was churning out the same old crap they, the actual artists, were becoming big names in the biz. Not one of their pictures will ever be considered a technological achievement that is free from criticism. Hasn't really held them back though.

They are the cream of the crop regardless. By all means focus on details and be average. Or be an artist and be exceptional!

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Seriously, learn the tools of your trade. Go do your due diligence. Learn how to frame and compose your shot. Perfect the 'art' of photography, but remember that no matter how good you become, no matter how proficient you are technically, the guy that took this picture will always have sold more pictures than you:

Perhaps we should discuss the merits of the lighting he used? Perhaps the depth of field could have been better? Should he have included more foreground in the shot?

When somebody here takes a picture as powerful and artistic as this one, could you wake me up? I'd like to see it.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
I never claimed myself as an artist... Im not at a level where my photos express me totally... I still can't make a photo as I'd like... That's another story though that has to do with practice and time.

anyway. I actually agree on most of your points dirk.. you are right when you say that someone's work should not be judged ... Although some like me and jas find it useful because sometimes it does help you improve I guess not everyone is the same....

Anyway nice" debating" you :p

Goodnight
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Constructive criticism doesn't exist in art. You are your own critic, and beyond that it doesn't matter.

David Bailey may have had more critics than fans. God only knows, if you showed a Picasso to a random group of people you wouldn't find many fans but plenty of detractors. That doesn't stop his art being valued in the region of 'priceless'. Detail has no place in art.

You can be a technical photographer and get everything right, and be the same as million others of your kind, or you can be an artist and stand a chance of being unique.

I grew up with art and i believe there's nothing worse than being average. You could be an exceptional asshole, but it's better than being an average bore! I enjoy photography of any kind. I love looking at pictures that others have taken. The more the better. Never once do i look at a picture and dissect it. I love it because it takes me places, evokes an emotional reaction. Gives me a window into the soul of the person that took it. I never think 'the ISO setting could have been better'. I marvel at the place/time/emotion that created the picture.

Should B&W photos be seen as less of an achievement because we have the technology to shoot in colour? God no! Black and White shots are often the best. Who cares if they're grainy if the subject looks amazing?

I appreciate all photography, but the only art in it is capturing what you intended. Start playing with that and it's not art and neither is it your work.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Time to revive this thread... and starting with a quote from dirk..

Thats the only truth... you just dont need to go crazy about techniques etc.. just frame what you want, as you want and shoot it. you want to do something special? use a strange technique? do it! just dont stick to technicalities... try to express yourself through it ;)

Also pay some attention to this, newcomers..

You can make perfect photos with anything... phones,(D)slr's, compacts, pinholes... you name it. The point is to try and not be that monkey... try to be creative, unique and don't just stick to taking photos by turning some knobs and pushing a button. The point is to be a photographer.. not a camera operator ;)
[Off-topic] juzz86:
I wouldn't usually do this, but I am a huge fan of the idea of this thread and some of the work that has been submitted. I'm a long, long way from the league of guys like Jaszek, but it doesn't stop me having a go :p

Attached are several images from over the past few years, spanning a couple of cameras and locations.

Number 1 is probably my favourite personally-taken photo of the lot, and has been my Desktop for donkey's years. For a cheap camera, it did a remarkable job of capturing not only the waxy sheen and overall detail, but the intricate veined network on the leaves themselves.

Number 2 is a Base Monitor ('Racehorse Goanna') I encountered climbing a mountain here in Western Australia.

Number 3 is a vista of Lake Burbury and the Tasmanian Central Highlands, taken on a particularly nice day. This is ten-minute's drive South of my hometown. Some excellent Trout in that lake, you can see the pressure the Hydroelectric dams put on catchments like this by the level sitting below the waterline.

Number 4 is a railway bridge on the ABT railway between Queenstown and Strahan, Tasmania. 35km, 37 bridges and, in places like those pictured, a cogged third-rail to pull the train up steep inclines. It is actually faster to get out and walk alongside the (steam) Engine when she's got the third wheel engaged.

Number 5 is Kelly Basin, near Strahan, Tasmania. I love the mirror effect of the water, it's almost a 100% replication. Another desktop wallpaper :p

Number 6 is a weird visitor I had on my window sill one morning.

Number 7 is my favourite picture of a Rose in my Nan's garden. I love the intricacy of the folds and the soft, pastel colour.

Just thought I would share a couple with you guys :)
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
Here's one I took with my phone it was taken while driving down the road.

Sent from my DROID RAZR
[Off-topic] jaszek:
I'm on the same team ;-)

And as I said, art is art, no one should try to correct you, but sometimes, there are things that other photographers can help you with. An artist sees a scene differently than an everyday person. For example the image I posted before of the pianist:

The Pianist by Jaszek PL, on Flickr

Looks good right?

After posting on a photo forum, other photogs agreed, but they helped me realize what I could've done to improve it. For example I should crop the right black part about 50 pixels (where the .tk is on my logo). I realized if I did that, the photo would be more pleasing to the eye, since there would be less distractions, and you don't try to think about what is in that black part, and focus more on the subject I wanted. Also another comment was that it's a good candidate for black and white.

All of these are suggestions on what I could've done. I don't have to, but it might help you remember what to do for the next shot you take to make it more pleasing to the eye.

@Dirk, and the photo you posted of Tank Man by Jeff Widener, that is a completely different story since that is categorized under photojournalism. in photojournalism, technicals are the last thing you think about. that photo is famous because many news outlets bought it from Associated Press (for whom Jeff was working at the moment). Little do people know that There were other photographers. So even though the other guy's photos are nearly identical as Jeff's, since it wasnt circulated in almost every newspaper around the world, his photo has been forgotten. Also Jeff got lucky. Here is the story behind the photogs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man#Photographic_versions
[Off-topic] jaszek:
New card design, working with Scath from XDA to get a deal printing them. The aperture I want to be glossy lol. Also working with Scath on getting a domain and a website up, so the website on it is not in service yet.

What do ya'll think? Had something else in mind, failed, waited a few hours and opened photoshop again. Being a graphic designer must suck. lol

EDIT: Ok, I changed it, since it would be too expensive for what I want. lol
[Off-topic] Tenpin:
Wow the brushed metal effect on the second one really sets it off, top notch job there buddy!
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Thanks. BTW, this is the other side:
[Off-topic] dexter93:
hey people! Nice card has ;)

Bought another lens yesterday.. Nikon 28mm f2.8 .. I'm going for street photography this time... Will post pics ;)
[Off-topic] jaszek:
I need to start buying primes. I only have my 50 1.4. Why did I sell my 100 2.8 Macro!!!! I am so stupid.

I also have an old Pentax K mount 28 2.8 (I think) with an EOS adapter, but it's really hard to use it. It's lose on the adapter and the focus ring is stiff. lol.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
aint the 28mm wonderful? even on crop format... i love the angle (although i prefer the 24mm.. but thats way too expensive :D ) Did you get that 5D at last?
[Off-topic] jaszek:
I didn't get it yet. I'm still waiting, I don't really need it, and for now, my 7D can do everything I need it to do. I'll get it by July though since I have a wedding booked then. Also the prices will be lower. lol
[Off-topic] dexter93:
there's the mark3 being released anytime soon... you'd might want to hit that ;)
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Once I see an official spec list, I'll let you know, but I probably wont need all of the "features". Rumor has it that there will be 2 lines of it. One will have 22MP, the other something like 40MP. both are too much for me, and I feel 18 is the sweet spot (like on my 7D). I'll see once they announce it and all the gear heads put their old 5DII on craigslist and I get one for like $1400. lol
[Off-topic] dexter93:
bumpies!

10clicks ;)
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
I "found" these pics...:cool:
[Off-topic] jaszek:
You are taking images and claiming them as your own. Someone can sue you for that. lol
[Off-topic] dexter93:
believe it or not, this was taken with a hd2 :cool:
[Off-topic] jaszek:
The HD2 has a great camera. I want to buy one again.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
It has indeed... And it's way superior than my sensation's...which is worse than the desire :(
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
Taken with my DROID RAZR.

Sent from my DROID RAZR
[Off-topic] dexter93:
also... some fresh photos with the 28mm..

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is that a lizzard?
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
Yeah its an anole. Took in while I'm in key largo.

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[Off-topic] dexter93:
from what I see, seems like weather wasn't with your side :p the colours are flat so I guess it was cloudy? That anole seems good though... Although I'd crop it to cut the extra branches in front... But that's me :D

Nice shot
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
Yeah it was cloudy. Yeah I should've cropped it. I haven't edited any of my photos. I'm still getting used to the RAZR camera.

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[Off-topic] dexter93:
that's good ;) try to get used to your camera... Nowadays phones cameras have great potential
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Finally sold my 40D. Now I need a new body as a backup. 5D2 anyone? lol
[Off-topic] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
I saw the picture of the rose and i have some good pictures of roses from my phone.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
nice shots! If only that shadows weren't there... Really like the last rose ;)
[Off-topic] Barjo_MLS:
This is a great blog I know (a photography blog of course :)) : http://deadlyinfluence.tumblr.com/
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
The turtle pic sucks haha

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[Off-topic] deliriousDroid:
Wow I really like that first one dex:D
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Thanks double D :D ... Btw the sign says "I'm hungry" if you were curious
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
A few pics from the Florida Everglades national park.

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
Timelapse coming soon.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Ok, the timelapse is done. Here it is:

[youtube]sqF5dph6e_4?hd=1[/youtube]

Remember to watch in HD
[Off-topic] jaszek:
No one watched my video.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Because you posted a bad link :p
[Off-topic] - Swift -:
Hehe! Nobody obeys by the rulez!
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Neither mods do. They don't ban people like you anymore, they whip them to death :eek:
[Off-topic] - Swift -:
*ouch* :eek:
[Off-topic] jaszek:
It works for me

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[Off-topic] dexter93:
Not for me, through mobile at least :D will check asap ;)
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Maybe because I used an HD link. I get network error on mobile

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[Off-topic] trell959:
Quick pic from my phone. I need to get pictures from my camera in here
[Off-topic] DJBhardwaj:
Taken from my LG Optimus One
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
Another anole I took a pic of with my RAZR

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[Off-topic] dexter93:
nice shot watt!

cool angle ;)

amazing colours :eek:

You have some sort of anole fettish don't you? :p
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
Lol nope the only thing around here are anoles they're everywhere.

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[Off-topic] deliriousDroid:
Lmao, i read that wrong:p
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
Lmao I just read that wrong after I read your post

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
You didn't read it wrong, he wrote it wrong.
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
I think this is starting to move in the wrong direction. Don't wanna get the mods after us lol.

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
Whats wrong with having an anola fetish? Better then an iguana fetish.
[Off-topic] torikorocks:
Lmao.

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[Off-topic] torikorocks:
Here's something other than anoles.

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
Just a sunset from my campus. Shot with my very slow point and shoot. lol

Winter Sunset by Jaszek PL, on Flickr

Winter Sunset by Jaszek PL, on Flickr
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Messing around with posterize effects on my phone....
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Looks like an 8bit image. lol
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Lol that's the view of HTC for "posterization".

I was about to test something with my camera and the batteries died :mad:
[Off-topic] husam666:
@dex, here is your proof, it rained, so we lost a huge amount of snow:rolleyes:

and an xda fan sign :D
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Niice :)

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[Off-topic] husam666:
sry for the quality, i didnt focus, i just hit the camera button to the fullest :p
[Off-topic] dexter93:
It was raining, you are excused :p

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[Off-topic] dexter93:
I need an advice guys... I'm gonna build a pinhole camera... Should I make it with a matchbox and film or a shoe box and photo paper? :D
[Off-topic] jaszek:
It depends what film you are going to use. You will look awkward walking around with a shoe box, but with that you can use medium format film, or even large format sheets :O
[Off-topic] dexter93:
I have some spare b&w ISO 400 35mm chromogenic ... b&w paper.. that large format idea sounds really cool... Imma have a hard time finding sheets though... Plus that I'll need a darkroom to change sheets...
[Off-topic] jaszek:
The 5diii is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Just saw the specs... It's just a waste of money, you'd better stick with your 7d... ;)
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Ill keep the 7D as well. Lol

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
I just found a 52 on craigslist for $1650. Lowest I've seen it. I might go for it...or wait till next week when Canon lowers the prices on new so that will drop the used prices.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
if you wait 2-3 weeks you will find it with 900-1200$ ;)

btw im bored of my lenses... im thinking of upgrading to this http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/zoomsMF/12001700mm.htm

What do you think ? :p
[Off-topic] jaszek:
I'd get this one. And I wish they went down to 900-1200. I'd buy 2. lol
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Ever had any trouble from overly concerned citizens or security people? Over here photographers have had a hard time of it recently. Even the cops seem unsure of how to deal with it.

The way people react sometimes is ridiculous. It's almost like pulling out your camera in public is tantamount to unleashing your penis and pointing it at unsuspecting members of the public!

If it's not that then it's some scumbag waiting for an opportunity to make off with your hardware. Forget a 30 minute exposure...our chavs will make your camera disappear in 2000ths of a second. (They use advanced camera defeating technology to make good their escape too. 'Hoodies', as we call it.)
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Haha. No I don't really have problems. Only had a problem twice.

The first I was photographing the Brooklyn Bridge from a park and a park ranger asked me who I'm shooting these photos for, I said for myself. And the second time was in Times square when i was doing street photography and after photographing some 'ghetto' asian guy (with flash of course) he said I can't ttake photos of him and he'll tell the police. I went with him to the popo and he was wrong.

[youtube]ZRfwcJubaCo[/youtube]
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Timelapse of the earth from the ISS:

http://www.wimp.com/flyingover/

Pretty cool!
[Off-topic] :
That's was actually really beautiful. Thank you :D

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[Off-topic] lodoss22:
Fascinating stuff my friend, thanks for sharing.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Saw that ISS lapse earlier today. Freaking amazing.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Guys has any of you ever developed a film?

Cause I did for the first time yesterday night and it was freaking amazing! :cool:

I want mooore...... :D

...aes eht rednu

peed morf tneS
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Another amazing Time Lapse of NYC:

http://www.wimp.com/mesmerizingtimelapse/
[Off-topic] sakai4eva:
http://weburbanist.com/2011/10/03/18-examples-of-amazing-long-exposure-photography/

Not exactly time-lapse, but I thought of this thread immediately.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
I really need a slider and a motor for it. I might build one when I'm off for january
[Off-topic] Dirk:
It adds that something extra i think. Thanks for the link above btw, some great shots there! :)
[Off-topic] iphon1234:
nice

The picture is beautiful.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Installing lightroom and photoshop atm.... And I'm about to scan my negatives :D

...aes eht rednu

peed morf tneS
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Are we gonna see some of your work? Looking forward to it if so.

Here's another beautiful time lapse:

http://www.wimp.com/breathtakinglandscapes/

Utterly stunning, isn't it?
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Yeah really amazing video :)

Id love to show you my work but im having some problems... See I don't have a film scanner, so I tried to use a common document flatbed scanner. The problem is that after I scanned them I can't invert the negative in PhotoShop... It needs a lot of adjustments which I don't know how to do.... Anybody know a good film scanning software or something to invert the negatives?

...aes eht rednu

peed morf tneS
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Well I'm on this small forum (www.imageaspect.com) and a lot of the guys there shoot film, so they would know about scanning, and software for film. As for me I invested too much in digital to play around with film now. lol
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Thanks jas, will check it out sometime later :D btw, I guess you may have spent much on your 7d but have you ever played around with film? Any dark room experience as a photography student maybe ?

...aes eht rednu

peed morf tneS
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Dope. Never been in a darkroom, and the only film I shot was on the old P&S film camera back when a 2mp camera cost $1000 lol. And I'm not a photo student. I l;earned everything myself and find that now I teach other more than I learn myself. And I have an awesome idea for a timelapse. I have only a few seconds from today, but It looked so awesome I'm shooting it for maybe over an hour, and I wont tell u what it is. I might buy another remote so I can shoot from two angles and maybe have the timelapses run side by side with the light changing exactly the same.
[Off-topic] Omnichron:
my fetish is to have a woman squish bugs on my chest with her 10 inch stilettos.:o
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Guess what is coming in a few minutes. lol
[Off-topic] dexter93:
man you are old tech.. i mean 6000mm prime ? mine is zoom :D and if i add a 2x converter i can have that range on my crop camera (almost :p)

also you are going to need a crane to move that.. :p

as for the 5Dmk2, the prices will drop... i can buy here mk1 new with 900 now.. later that canons ridiculous price will drop in order to sale, the mk2 will go to 1200 from 1600 for sure ;)
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>>>Off-Topic Pornography Thread (NOT PHOTOGRAOHY!)<<<

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[Off-topic] - Swift -:
I actually LOL'd

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[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Trololololx
[Off-topic] darknight88:
Oh wow that's sad and funny at the same time. Lol.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
We finally know what M_T_M looks like
[Off-topic] dexter93:
The matchbox pinhole is almost done! :D

And I'm thinking of getting a battery grip... But I'm not sure yet if I should :o
[Off-topic] jaszek:
FOr your matchbox pinhole? Lol

I have a love/hate relationship with the grip for my 7D. I like it due to my big hands and the balance with large lenses, but it's a ***** to fit into my favorite back pack. lol
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Yes for my matchbox... It is inconvenient on portraits :p

Basically I want it because my pinky is usually in the air.. and because my 70-300 needs balancing(although I don't quite use it.. but when I do, its a pain )

And the top reason: I want to see how a pro body feels like :D

But that back pack is going to be an issue indeed... Plus that Nikon has it at 250eur :eek: and the rip offs are 50-60 but I'm afraid of their reliability ... :/
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Balance for a 70-300? Hahahaha. I need it for balance with my 70-200 and 100-400. lol. I had a knock off for my 40D and worked great. Should still be working, but I sold it with my 40D. I had a Zeikos.