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[Fascinate General] gkirby11:
whoisandy is completely right, it isn't a matter of which is better universally moreover it is about which device is better for its user.

I have used both devices, made calls, listened to fans of both and all it comes down to is what works for you.

I love the customization of android, the open source support, and the ability to choose what device is right for me.

The Iphone is an amazing phone and for someone who is not much of a gear head it will be perfect. It is always up-to-date and supported. Everything will be taken care of with the Iphone.

Both are great phones with amazing potential but to say one is better then the other is a little ignorant and self serving.:rolleyes:
[Fascinate General] sageDieu:
I agree with the two posts above me. Each phone is great for its own reasons. Let her try them both and make her own decision.

Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500
[Fascinate General] droidstyle:
Great post!! I retract my previous post and will say that for me the android phone is better due to fact I love to tinker and customize things lol. Iphone is a great phone....probably the better option for someone like my grandmother who just wants it to do everything for her.
[Fascinate General] agsded:
Ya know though if you dig hard enough, you can actually customize an iPhone. Had one for a while jailbroken (rooted), and baseband unlocked running on T-Mobile. The alternative market, Cydia, that installs when you jailbreak has apps to customize the springboard (iPhone's launcher). There's even a console app. Underlying the interface is just yet another Linux variant. There's a txt file you can edit to ramp up the clock speed (at least on 3g and 3gs) and make the os snappier, at the cost of battery life.

The part I really hated about it was being chained to a computer running iTunes. If it glitches bad, and won't boot for some reason, unless you've been synching it religiously, you loose data back to your last sync. Kinda a pain, so...

That tiny 3.5" screen hurts my head after having this 4" on my fassy. I'll never use a phone with a screen under 4" again. It is, however, slightly easier to hold the phone in one hand, and reach across with the thumb on that same hand to hit the far side of the screen cleanly on a sub 4" screen foe folks with small hands, like me, but I'be adjusted.
[Fascinate General] jdkzombie:
hahah...say grandma, are you a sheep. or are you a wolf...hahahahaha..

im kidding.

like posted before. iphone equals simplistic.

android equals possibilities. no matter how much you jailbreak an iphone, you wont obtain the same level of customization that you will with the android phones.

my thoughts, why get her either anyway? get her something that doesnt require so much thinking. My grandmother, was a firm believer that a phone was a quote" goddam phone first and everything else second" so maybe an iphone or fascinate isnt what she needs.

I say this comfortably knowing that even friends of mine have grabbed my phone to place a call and have to ask me how to get to the damn dialer. of course i said FU touchwiz, and changed everything. but still. Take her to the store, and let HER choose which one she wants.

unless you want her to get a fascinate so you can try new roms and **** out on hers without having to brick yours....you evil bastard genius you lol
[Fascinate General] decaydance99:
that word "iphone" should be a word that you say out of anger ex: "holy iphone!" and in that context only
[Fascinate General] Pope of Eruke:
If your sister doesn't want to do research/understand the pros and cons of each phone then the iphone is probably a better bet, due to her wanting something that "just works" as others have said.
[Fascinate General] Snakehn:
I have had my fascinate for 3 months now, my wife got the iphone 4, she wanted to try the fascinate so we swapped phones, i use apple products, we have and iMac, macbook air, ipad and all that crap, but when i used that iphone 4, it just felt boring, it felt like it was missing a bunch of features that i had with my fascinate.

don't get me wrong, is one hell of a phone, great built quality and everything but i missed my fascinate so much and we ended up swapping again, as soon as i got my fascinate i rooted the f*** out of it and made it the way i like it, and im happy with it, no word on iphone 5 yet but honestly im more excited about the Galaxy S 2 if verizon ever gets it.
[Fascinate General] tyvallely:
^Agreed.^ Anyways I would wait for the iPhone 5 and the Galaxy S 2 because those will be out by June for sure.
[Fascinate General] djlim4:
Some of the previous posts were spot on. My wife just got an iphone4 and it's really a nice piece of hardware. I guess the weight being a con is subjective because i personally like the added weight. For those saying how it should be android all the way because of customization... she jailbroke her's within the first hour of coming home and spent the next few days theming it up and not speaking to me like i did back in Jan. when i got my SF.

But we both agree that iTunes is just evil.
[Fascinate General] ducati966:
I feel that iPhone is better for people who just want a phone that works. If you are interested in customizing and tinkering with roms then fascinate is the better choice.
[Fascinate General] ducati966:
Also don't forget that there are more free apps for android.
[Fascinate General] wonsong82:
I have a fascinate and i got my gf an iphone 4.

then my mom wanted a smartphone so bad and i was debating which i should get for her.

As someone mentioned earlier, iphone is better for tech noob and fascinate is good for person who knows tech. I suggested iphone 4 but she was convinced to get a fascinate from other people.

So i got her fascinate and rooted, froyoed, and customized the phone for her.

now, she is not having any issue handling the phone after few weeks of me tutoring her (she doesnt even know how to use a computer lol).

So my point is that, if you can customize and optimize the phone for her, i bet fascinate would be a better choice.

my gf was extremely happy when she first got iphone, for just the fact that it IS the newest iphone, she can show off people and stuff like that(i got her as soon as iphon4 came out). But she is not satisfied with it now after she saw all the capabilities and functions that iphone is missing compared to android phone.

as someone mentioned that 'android is google and google is awesome', all the google apps that iphone is missing out was her huge envy on my fasicnate, and iphone is simplicity is actually too simple, it would be better at first cuz its simple to use and simple to learn, but android's more buttons and functions gets more convenient once you get used to android.
[Fascinate General] dandar:
I felt the same way when my mom bought the iphone and I customized it for her. It just felt boring and the screen felt tiny even though I had at the time Droid1 with 3.7" screen. The only thing I liked better was the keyboard and that doesn't even compare to how great swype is on the Fascinate.

The only thing iphone has over the fascinate is front facing camera for skype users which my mom just loves for talking with her relatives overseas.
[Fascinate General] JoeProcopio:
i would definitely have her wait for the galaxy S2, and the new iphone, the iphone 4 was old technology when it came out, aside from the gorgeous screen, but the Super AMPLED plus will make you forget the more ppi of the iphone.

looks like they will both be out in the fall though, not june...

even if rumors are true (4" screen, edge to edge glass, NFC, etc) wait for both iterations to hit before she buys...

go find some Galaxy S2 videos on youtube and have her watch them....it is really amazing...if the S2 is LTE, and the iPhone whatever they call it this time is not, then the iPhone is again behind technology...and not worth buying even if it is easier to use....

imho

good luck and last but not least, give her all the information she will need to make an informed opinion, and as ling as she feels she made the decision on her own, she will enjoy the phone, if she feels you forced her to get a phone she doesn't like, then she will forever hate you, lol jk
[Fascinate General] scottzirra:
In my mind, after dealing with a fair amount of the general populace through a retail setting, there is only 1 reason to own an iPhone over and Android:

The user.

For people that are not in any way tech savvy, or a tinkerer, or smart enough to manage their elevated privileges, or do not like to read comments in an app-store as to whether or not an app is compatible with their hardware, the iPhone is a great fit. It definitely runs smooth, and is pretty easy to use.

I think most advanced users will agree that the flexibility of running Android is a huge bonus.

For me, I just hate Apple.
[Fascinate General] gunnermike:
apple is evil. steve jobs is the devil. all his stuff is crap. its overpriced, over rated, and under performs. but for some reason people continue to buy his crap. people will eat up his crap all day long and say "yuummmmm, taste like candy!!!!!"

un unrooted android is great for the nontech savvy person. it runs well, does everything the stupid iphone does and more.

did i mention i HATE steve jobs.
[Fascinate General] crookshanks:
I've never understood this. The iPhone 4 and Fascinate have really similar hardware, I can't understand how the iPhone 4 was old tech when it was released and the Fascinate wasn't.
[Fascinate General] Domush:
I would recommend buying both phones, lining them up side by side and shooting each one. The phone which fares better should be kept.

If someone likes a phone they should get it. Who cares if one might be objectively better than the other. Likes have little to do with objectivity.

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Fascinate General] JoeProcopio:
relatively, the VZW iPhone came out 7 months later than the AT&T version, making it 7 months old technology in the overall scheme of cell phones...and it still doesn't do everything some other phones do...can't replace the battery on your own, have to be tied to itunes, no real multitasking, can't have multiple screens like android...

but it all comes down to the user anyway....to each his own
[Fascinate General] crookshanks:
I know it came out after the AT&T version but the hardware it came with is nearly identical to the Fascinate. The battery thing isn't an old tech thing to me as it's a Li-po battery. It's probably better for the consumer not to deal with it and it lasts like 48 hours with lots of use. My Fascinate was lucky to get through the day with heavy use.

As a matter of fact, other than the camera - maybe - and a little more RAM the hardware in my Thunderbolt is about the same as the iPhone 4 as well. I guess the Thunderbolt was old tech too.
[Fascinate General] gunnermike:
the processor on the fascinate is far superior (same speed, jsut a better chip), there is more memory in the fassy, the fassy has the super amoled screen, a better camera and expandable sd memory and an fm radio. iphone has no google maps cant do half of the stuff the fassy can do and the best of all, you own your android, i dont care what anybody says, the iphone (and all apple products) belong to steve.
[Fascinate General] streebs87:
Don't buy an iPhone just because it's the iPhone. Sure it's a nice phone, but when it comes down to it there are plenty of other great phones out there that blow iPhone out of the water. I've been curious to try it myself, but I absolutely love my Fascinate.

Like everyone else has said, it comes down to personal prefrence.
[Fascinate General] crookshanks:
Both phones have processors built on the arm cortex a8. Both phones have 512mb of ram. Both phones have a 5mp camera. The fascinates screen isn't better to everyone as not everyone appreciates the over saturated colors and the iphone screen is higher res. The iphone's map app does just fine and the gps gets an instant, accurate fix-something lots of fascinate users are unfamiliar with. Other than widgets there isn't much you can't do on a jailbroken iphone that you can do on the fascinate. I've had both.

I don't have an opinion either way for the op - the decision should be up to the user. I just don't understand how fan boys of either phone can be so negative about such similar devices. They both have upsides. The iphone works for it's target audience - it's sleek, it's easy and it plain old works.
[Fascinate General] Jmatch:
Doesn't the iPhones camera make colors look almost cartoonish
[Fascinate General] MattRussNC:
Iphone or fascinate out of the box with no intentions on tweaking, thats a tough one.

I remember my fassy out of the box when I first got it blew ass. Don't think I could bare using a stock fassy. Never tried a iphone.

Now running comrom over otb kern all voodooed, well there just ain't another phone that comes close. Going to be hard giving my fas up for sgs2 when the time comes.
[Fascinate General] Ianxcom:
Iphone is actually quite heavy.i don't like that. Maybe for girl who can put it in her purse it's fine but I hate it.
[Fascinate General] nunyazz:
iPhone - 4.83 oz (137 g)

Fascinate - 4.16 oz (118 g)
[Fascinate General] Ianxcom:
Hold one in each hand and tell me you can't feel a difference.
[Fascinate General] djlim4:
+1 to this, I don't see why people feel the need to hate on the iphone. I agree itunes sucks ass but you don't have to deal with it if you jailbreak, which btw is much simpler and streamlined... its really a better experience than going through some of the threads here and dealing with hostile posters as a noob.

I love my fascinate, but the light weight of it feels cheap compared to the iphone. I personally prefer the added weight, but for me i can't give up the samoled screen.
[Fascinate General] nunyazz:
I have both phones, there's not much difference.
[Fascinate General] dandar:
Same here. I'd consider iphone if it had 4"+ screen. It really is a good phone in its own way. Front facing camera, battery that just keeps on going, very simple to use. But itunes, small screen, and being so simple that it's boring are things that I don't want to deal with.
[Off-topic] OmegaRED^:
Some one out there must know..

:)
[Off-topic] x10man:
im sorry but i have to say it, should have got a mini pro :) 2 point dualtouch (real unlike mini and x8 not sure about x10) and soon 3 point multitouch sorry had to say it
[EVO 4G General] quickbird144:
I can't for the life of me downgrade my PRI from 1.9 to the infamous 1.7. I download it to my SD card and flash it how I do everything else in CWM and I go back into my info and 1.9 still remains. What am I missing? I am nand unlocked and s-unlocked.
[EVO 4G General] k2buckley:
Switch to Amon Ra recovery. Cwm gives trouble flashing radios and pri for some reason. Amon is a far better recovery anyways. You wont regret making the switch, and won't have any weird troubles like what you're experiencing now. It just works.
[EVO 4G General] quickbird144:
Gonna give it a try. Will let you know what happens. Thanks!
[EVO 4G General] quickbird144:
I downgraded PRI and NV to 1.7 and my phone is running HOT. Back to 1.9 I suppose.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
When you say hot, you mean physically hot? Try giving it a day, and you sure its not psychosis? :p
[EVO 4G General] quickbird144:
Ever since the downgrade of the two I've had nothing but WORSE battery problems. So back to the current ones and to the custom kernals I go! Thanks for all the help though.
[EVO 4G General] the_plattypus:
Hope all works out for you. Some roms run better on different pri, and cooler for that matter. Keep in mind
[EVO 4G General] hbwelch:
thanks this worked for me!
[EVO 4G General] sclarktay4:
Make sure that when you flash the downgrade you go ahead and reboot. this is the way i did it in Clockwork recovery. Then i flashed rom
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
This is MY opinion, but I had 1.9, went to 1.77 for a few months, then back to 1.9 when I realized that downgrading reminded me of going from Windows 7 to Windows Vista. And then I found out that PRI has ZERO to do with battery life, and maybe when an official update comes out, it may actually be that's it's better than the old version.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cpl.Garcia18:
Ok i screwed up some where... I went and disabled voodoo lagfix. I rebooted the phone and i began clearing out all items from the memory card (internal and external). I think i might have accidentally deleted the voodoo lagfix folder. I went and reset the phone and now its just rebooting over and over and the robot chick is saying restore operation. I've tried to get to download mode or recovery mode from here and i cant do anything. I really need some help fixing this. I was suppose to have the phone ready by tomorrow, I was going to sell it to someone. Any help will be much appreciated, Thanks.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inconceeeivable:
OK, just to confirm.

You've tried the following for download mode:

1. Turn phone completely off

2. Hold both volume buttons

3. Plug phone into PC while still holding volume buttons

And you've tried the following for recovery:

1. Turn phone completely off

2. Hold both volume buttons

3. Turn phone on while still holding volume buttons

No offense intended here...people will know where to start in terms of helping.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cba1986:
Good night everybody.

Playing with my phone i noticed this:

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Somebody knows what is the mean for "asgard version"?

I'm using stock deodexed jvh + supercurio kernel.

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PAGOT:
By any chance you use OCKs theme?

Its in this file resources.arsc in the settings.apk

(What I get asgard is a custom rom from the vibrant forum?)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cba1986:
Yes i'm using OCK's themes.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PAGOT:
Well as said in the reply before, go ask him why he included that. Not sure he is aware of it though.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cba1986:
I will ask. Thanks.
[Acer Iconia A500] dc13:
Ok so I just tried to get the 3.1 update from the XOOM pushed to my tablet and well it bricked me so dont try this if a few people r wanting this just wait for the 3.1 update later this year.
[Acer Iconia A500] rog152:
ouch, so what are you gonna do now, can u fix it?
[Acer Iconia A500] ardatdat:
Can you tell us where you get the update file? Can you share it?

Also, how you flash the file? Through recovery?

Can you describe the 'brick' situation? Boot loop?

Finally, how are you going to restore back to original?

Thanks a lot.
[Acer Iconia A500] muqali:
He should be able to nvflash back I'd think.
[Acer Iconia A500] seraphimserapis:
nvflash isn't working for us atm ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] huxflux2003:
I think that he can use a stock update.zip and flash it through recovery.
[Acer Iconia A500] dc13:
No I'm not going to share a update that will brick ur tablet.

Boot look at the Android. I know Im bricked.

I'm just going to return it and get my money back and ill wait a little bit.

There is NO NVFlash

I can use the Chinese update.zip but id rather not
[Acer Iconia A500] seraphimserapis:
You could flash the chinese thing.. try to flash my recovery and if it doesn't work just use dd to flash the recovery from china again ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] muqali:
Hadn't been following our support too closely. I just assumed it worked on all tegra tabs equally. God what I wouldn't give for tabs to be like PCs.
[Acer Iconia A500] mapaz04:
Use the chinese update.zip

Its not bad... I had to use it because I was fooling around too much and crashed with no reboot in sight. I used SYSTEMAPP REMOVER to disable all the chinese apps and root explorer to delete the old files in /system/app then rebooted.

Also, you can add the marketplace through the /system/app just enable read/write and there is no need to push through ADB!!! it will give you error once, rewrite over the files again, re-install, and re-start and voila... you get the free games from the "GoMarketHD" and you get the MARKET back, granted, its not the HONEYCOMB market but hey, its the market... jejeje
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
This thing makes my G2x look soo beautiful!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Pichingo:
where got this from bro
[T-Mobile LG G2x] AdamHart612:
Sweet! I have the black one on the way. How long did it take to arrive, assuming u got it from shimshop (ebay) ?

Looks great
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
From ebay just look for TPU cases and the seller is shimshop

I did get it from shimshop on ebay, it took around a week and half.

Worth the wait though
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Malk3rs:
Lookin' good; I'd love a link!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
Here you go :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-LG-G2X-T-MO...Accessories&hash=item1c1b0db5e3#ht_4841wt_801

I am tempted to get all the colors he is selling,

the green one looks pretty cool too.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] iamlilysdad:
Does this case scratch like the Speck case from T-Mobile?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mingkee:
I'd like to have a black one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LG-OPTIMUS-2X-P...930491?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19c3e7cbbb
[T-Mobile LG G2x] btate0121:
1) Moshe... have you ever lived in northern VA? I ask because I knew a guy named Moshe YEAAARS ago in Manassas

2) Good lookin out on this ebay seller!!!! I'm going thru his selection and there are SO MANY TO CHOOSE! I definitely prefer solid colors over the argyle and swirl ones all over the internet and amazon. I want a clear one... but may settle for this black one. Thanks again!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
It does not scratch unless you intended to with like a scissors our something sharp like that.

pretty resistant.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
1. I did live in Virginia for a short time but I never introduce myself as Moshe. So I doubt it was me bro.

2. Yeah, It is a good international seller.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] btate0121:
I think I found some of these on amazon if you search for "lg tmobile g2x color premium". The link doesn't say "TPU" but when you click the link it says they're TPU cases in the description and they look just like the ones on ebay.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
I bought my GF one of those TPU cases for her HTC Aria in white and the thing is awesome. It adds a little girth to the phone phone nothing major. She drops the thing all the time but the phone still looks amazing.

The bad thing is that it covers up the smooth rounded screen that I love to feel.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrharvey:
I got this exact same case. I loved it except for the holes cut out for the volume and power. That killed it for me because that little slim piece in the front just got kinda floppy. I ordered this one and although I dont like transparent or argyle cases I use it day to day just because it seems to fit better http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0QEA3EPHD3SFD6BV11WG
[T-Mobile LG G2x] wendellc:
Got the exact same case on my way to me. I ordered the lime green last week, gonna have an android theme. I will probably add some artwork to make mt g2x look like an android bot,
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tsk138:
I got the black version of this case last week and after trying 2 other cases, this one is the best hands down.

I got mine off ebay from Mr.Shim and it took 6 days to get here from Korea.

Now if only Realook had a screen protector for this phone, I'd be really happy.

The only thing this case did was push up the Bodyguardz screen protector when I put it on because it's a pretty snug fit. Simply smoothing it back down was all I needed to do. Probably didnt help that I just had the protector put on the night before either.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] hypmatize:
I got that one too but for some reason when I got it it had flaks of sivler in it....not bad but I would of preferred solid black though.

It fits real tight kinda hard to take it off when you need to
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mastermindx85:
You got the screen protector still on like I do lol
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
Yes, I still got it on :) but I'm thinking to replace it soon though
[T-Mobile LG G2x] chicagojoe12:
Is the white tpu case a hard plastic or silicone case im hopin its silicone thats what the link says but it sure doesnt look like it