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[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Has anyone solved the "Low battery" and "immediate turn off" problem yet?

Man this is the most frustrating issue EVER.

I'm running SRF 1.1.0

I have a 3500 mAh battery.

For some Farking reason, if the battery is under 50% and I get a call. It will RANDOMLY beep LOW BATTERY and turn off, in the middle of the farking call!!!

You turn it back on and it'll have 40+ % charge left!!!

AHHHHH!!!!!

After watching the 25 how to videos, I fixed almost everything that pissed me off, but this one thing drives me bonkers!!!! :(
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
I think that's the battery. Is its a yoo-bao from china (cheapie) or a good brand from a reputable source(sedio)? I have that problem with all the cheapies I bought on ebay.
[Epic 4G General] viperacr99:
It's not just the battery. My stock phone and rom does it too when the battery gets to 15%. When it reboots it has 20 or 30%.

This phone should never have been released with such a serious bug.
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
For "such a serious bug" it doesn't seem like many of us have it... I can keep a call all the way to 0%...did it a few minutes ago. Have you tried calibrating the battery stats?
[Epic 4G General] p3dr0maz:
Now I dont normally let my phone get down to 0% but yeah i know i've gone WAYYYYYYY past even 10% and the phone hasn't done this. Stock battery not extended.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
it's a cheapy battery.

However, it's also a bug somewhere in some software...

If it hits 15% when u are NOT on a call, the phone doesn't shut off. It's only when you're actually talking that it does it.

I'm surprised to hear STOCK people saying it happens to them... When I had my phone stock it didn't do this. I assumed it was a ROM issue.
[Epic 4G General] ZekeDev:
I would try calibrating... I believe there's an actual app in the market to do everything for you. I'm fairly certain its free, so ill post a link, but if its not, I apologize, and well get a mod to take it out.

http://db.tt/NaGV1TB
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
I love how people assume I sprinkle magic fail dust on my ROMs. ;)

Charge to 100% with the device off and wipe battery stats in CWM.
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
Key word there, "Assumed"
[Epic 4G General] viperacr99:
Yes. I've calibrated my battery. I have seen a couple threads on the issue. I have repeated the issue on several roms and modems. Happens every time i'm on a call and the battery gets to 15%. That makes it serious since it is a phone after all. What if I was talking to 911?
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Not just YOUR rom, I've read that this is a problem on all different ROM's including the stock one!
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
Right, but you said you assumed it was a ROM issue before you found out stock users had it.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
well even stock is a rom right? :)

What I'm hoping for is I can figure out what you guys are running that doesn't crash on you when the low battery beep happens.
[Epic 4G General] dr_gibberish:
I think this is a battery issue. I never had this problem with stock battery and it happened twice on cheap 3000 ma battery I bought. Returned the battery and got another one (same kind) and this one works fine. I think this is a manufacturing problem with cheap batteries. When you look at reviews of more expensive ones online, you never see anything about this problem.
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
I have found the solution! It turns out that our phones, much like a simple light bulb, just don't function when they don't have enough juice...

Since I can't modify a light bulb to magically require less power, the only solution I have found is to provide the specified power level. I have applied this same method to my phone - when the battery gets close to that magic threshold, all I do is - get ready for this - charge the phone again!

Seriously, though - everything takes power to operate, and a low battery can't put out the same current and voltage as a fully- or even half-charged battery. This isn't a bug, it's just a fact of life (with current technology, anyway). Who here complains when their almost-dead AA batteries can't power an Xbox 360 controller? Most of us just replace them with fresh ones (or charge them) and keep going.
[Epic 4G General] Dulanic:
:D This! Cheap batteries are never worth the money. I bought some cheap chinese rechargeable packs for my 360 controllers... they ALWAYS show low charge even if I just charged to full. Same deal with cheap chinese cell phone batteries.

I am sure the battery calibration is way off with one of the cheapies.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Ok Mr. Smarty pants. You are not understanding the problem. It happens with the stock battery too.

The SECOND you hit 15% while on the phone and get the battery low warning, the phone turns off, MID CALL. You turn the phone back on and it will last hours, even on the stock battery.

If it hits 15% without being on a call, it does not shut down.

That is the real problem here.
[Epic 4G General] alus415:
This has happened to me once , what could be the cause ? Defective phone or software?
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
You mean just like a 360 controller can have enough juice to turn on, but not enough to actually play? Or how a flashlight will be too dim to be worth it when the batteries get low?

Would it be better if the battery ran like a champ right up to the second that it shuts off without warning? That would fix your problem - no notification when the battery is low (the sudden shut off can't be avoided until we find an unlimited energy source small enough to fit in our phones)

Your expectations are unrealistic. Just sayin'...
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
J3ff, it's likely the cheap battery. Here's why:

Charge level is a simple linear voltage function. Our phones consider 4.2V to be full charge (100%), and empty to be around 3.6V (0%). The voltage drops roughly linearly between these two values as charge is consumed.

The kicker is this: The voltage seen at the battery terminals is also affected by the interaction between the internal resistance of the battery and the instantaneous load, or current draw. For electronics buffs, this is the classic V=IR, and what happens is that the voltage on the battery will drop by IR in addition to it's unloaded voltage level due to whatever the stored charge state is.

Good quality batteries have a very low internal resistance, and will not drop much voltage due to an increased load. Crappy batteries are just the opposite, and even though they do carry the charge storage (most of the time) advertised, they are only suitable for low load applications.

What's happening is you have a battery with a horribly high internal R. When you make a phone call, the load increases A LOT -- transmit power goes way up. This if why phones get hot when talking on them -- they really suck the juice.

As a consequence, because of the high resistance, voltage from the battery takes a nosedive. At an "idle" reading of 50% (3.9V, thereabouts) you're probably dropping more than 0.3V when the load goes up during a call, the phone panics, and shuts down to protect the battery (LiIon doesn't like to be discharged below 3.3V, and can be damaged).

When you reboot, the high load is gone, so the voltage shows higher again, reflecting the fact that there is truly still plenty of charge stored and available. The battery simply can't handle gulps, but only slow sipping.

High internal R is one of the most common reject reasons from mfgs, and those batts are sold on the cheap to dealers and distributors in a secondary market. Honest ones then resell into appropriate application spaces where low-current is all that is needed. Most, however, are not that scrupulous, and sell right back to the same market, leaving behind puzzled and unhappy customers.

Sent from my mind using telepathitalk
[Epic 4G General] viperacr99:
I am 95% sure it is defective software. The people explaining why it is the battery might be on track for why it reports whacky percentage fluctuations, but it is not the cause of the shutdown. I think it has something to do with the whole deal where samsung somehow thought it would be wise to not let you play media or use the camera when the battery was 15% or less. My guess is they have a bug in the framework that is causing the shutdown.

And for those who haven't seen this, it goes through the shutdown process while you are on the phone, it is not just an instant off type thing. The phone doesn't hang up until the phone finally shuts off. If I remember correctly, when you actually have a dead battery on a call, it is just an instant off, dead device.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Just sayin' I expect it to be able to warn me that the battery is low, without shutting down at the exact same moment.

And for the 4th or 5th time, it happens with the stock battery too.

Every single other phone I've ever owned warns the battery is low but remains on.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Yes, the amount of time you have is enough to say "shoot my phone is dying I'll call you back" and that's it.
[Epic 4G General] dr_gibberish:
This sounds exactly right to me. The times I experienced this were during calls and other HEAVY use. What's more, it explains why you might be able to get this happening on some stock batteries, at some times, just not as easily or often as on these cheap replacement batteries. e.g. if the R on the stock batteries is below some threshold that Samsung will use them but still high enough that they can get overloaded at times when you "gulp" power...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harpaldhamu:
Hi everyone,

Ive been trying to downgrade my DHD for a while now but it just doesn't work! Im using jkoljo's guide > http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905003

I can make a gold card fine, but when i do this step in cmd

./data/local/tmp/GingerBreak

on my phones screen i can see it saying "safe to remove sd card" and then i cant access the disk drive option to place the PD98IMG.zip on there.

If i restart the phone i can see the sd card again.

Just now i tried getting into the bootloader with vol - and power button and it freezes if my sd card is in the phone but works absolutely fine if the sd card is not? if it helps im using a samsung 8gb sd card

Please help its doing my head in!

Thanks in advance!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SERGI.3210:
but did you have gingerbreak or not??

first step is not Jkoljo´s guide.... its efrant guide for gingerbreak

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13084221&postcount=2
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harpaldhamu:
well theres a file called gingerbreak in the downgrade zip in jkoljos guide so assumed that would work, im just looking at efrants guide now ill try it out and post back as soon as i can

just out of curiosity, that guide is posted in the nexus one forum, will it still work on the DHD?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkoljo:
No it will not work. I wonder why ppl keep linking threads across forums.. It is like trying to fit Audi exhaust pipe to BMW.. Just won't work.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zunaedsaki:
Just install from run.eye man
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zunaedsaki:
Just install it from exe
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harpaldhamu:
Sorry you're gonna have to be a little more clear, install what exactly from exe?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harpaldhamu:
Ok had a bit of a breakthrough, it worked this time but i get the Update CID failed and i know this is the goldcard issue, i made sure i used the mmc2 and reversed it and used the psas website to get my goldcard. It must be my sd card im using? i havent got a spare to test out but il try and get hold of one and see

i hope it works
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HellRa1SeR:
Even I had lots of problem with Goldcard. Try different cards for it to work. Also if the PD98IMG.zip from jkoljo's guide gives you wrong image error, then try downloading a 1.32 RUU that almost resembles your system config.

For example I am from India and because I couldnt get my hands on a 1.32 India RUU, I downloaded the Asia RUU and it worked.!!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PeterDer:
I read in another post that someone else had problems with the goldcard aswell and the solution to his problem was to use mmc4 instead.

Perhaps you should try that? Otherwise it sounds like you should try another memory card.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medmed12:
Is you're Micro SD is formated in FAT32 ?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scorpio50:
hey guys...

if we install PD98IMG.zip rom to desire hd.. can we get ota on it . i mean is it a stock rom.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harpaldhamu:
yep i did a full format with windows to fat32 and then tried after that, so im guessing its the card, will find a card to use and see if it works
[Nook Color General] threebeers:
Seminoobie, please help. I successfully made a Nook CM7 uSD with the Size-Agnostic instructions using 7.0.2 (thanks dev). Transcend 8gb card. Worked great for three days, now it is stuck on the circle-skater screen. I let it run for a half-hour, no dice.

Running Autnootered 3.0 emmc in 1.1, that works fine. I don't have CWM installed on emmc (I want to avoid this for now to make factory restore/1.2 upgrade easier for autonooter 4), so I have no current access to Rom Manager, if that matters. I've seen some posts suggesting to clear caches with Rom Manager but I assume the uSD caches aren't in internal memory, are they? Other posts suggest partition corruption but the card worked fine before I turned it off and rebooted, and the boot partion shows up on the computer with a card reader just as you would expect.

The last thing I did before this happened was run Titanium Backup to pull the 200 existing apps on emmc onto the CM7 card. I did this by copying the entire full Backup file from a standard sd backup to the computer, then copied that file back to the /sd partition after putting cm7 into usb mode, then running Titanium in CM7. That worked fine, and I even was able to move some of the apps to the virtual SD and they worked.

I could take an hour and burn another card but wondered if I am just missing something to fix this, also if I do burn another card whether I did something wrong in applying Titanium that I should avoid again.

Also wondering if it is worth waiting for a future stable build that addresses the Nook deep sleep/battery drain issue, which seems to be in the works.

If I burn another card and get the same freeze happiness will elude me. Thanks in advance.
[Nook Color General] GTT1:
I assume you powered down and rebooted. I have had that happen to me and after a fresh reboot everything loaded.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] slimdizzy:
This post here.

Overcome 2.0 Beta 1. Not tested on anything else yet.

Enjoy
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] suprajztwenty:
um, no...it does not. then, after edititing the build prop file, trying to fool netflix to think im htc vision (g2) still i get the same device error. this trick must have been patched already.

edit, apologies for the lack of details

cm7 2.3.4 gets detected by netflix and stops me at the device not supported pop up.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] Seamus1:
Are you trying with a stock rom or a custom rom?
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] wrogerw:
It's working on my gTab... I am currently watching Battlestar Galactica.

I am running Overcome ROM Version 2.2.2 Beta 2. Some scenes were a bit grainy at first, but it seems to get progressively better with usage.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] h8rift:
Same here. Working. No build.prop changes needed.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] slimdizzy:
I didn't state nor did the link I linked to state that any prop editing needs to be done. Fresh Overcome GB ROM and the APK in the link and Netflix plays. I just finished watching Predators. Don't state it doesn't work when its just your device thats not working.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] suprajztwenty:
sorry i forgot to mention that im running techno's cm7 2.3.4 (perhaps thats the prob?) ill be trying overcome asap.

apologies for saying it didnt work for me...try and relax a bit fella, my tab is working just fine otherwise.

apparently the overcome guys are the only lucky ones?
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] cyberpyr8:
On my Wifi only Tab I changed the lines in the build.prop to HTC and I can login and hear sound when I select a movie but no video. :(
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] slimdizzy:
I believe wifi tabs have different hardware then 3g ones. Build prop could be one fix but I think there might be a hardware check or something that is preventing video for some.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] slimdizzy:
His video overlay driver isn't working yeah that's your problem. Flash overcome and enjoy.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] shaunm1989:
anyway to get it working on TAB outside the US?
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] dxwilliams40:
Netflix running on Overcome v2.0.0 beta 2

I'm running Overcome v2.0.0 beta 2, and the netflix app is running on my tab. Picture quality is lacking, but it is working.

Thanks for the link.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] slimdizzy:
I'm in Canada, so yes?
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] dallastx:
SO i take it, Netflix only works on GSM overcome Roms...Sprint tab rooted with original Rom does not work. The screen just disappears when you log in. SMH at Google. To many software/hardware versions for any company to make a app right.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] shaunm1989:
i ment in like australia..
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] sgyee:
Works fine with the new Gingerbread ROM on Tmo US.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] suprajztwenty:
another +1 on overcome 2.0 (2.3.3) i havnt had much time to test but it loads and plays. ill see in the next couple days how it works without wifi. at home it seems to be all well.

comming from technomancer's cm7 port overcome is MUCH MUCH smoother, cleaner, faster and has none of the issues i used to have with cm...but thats what you get with ports that arent updated regularly. the older overcome worked well, but i chose cm7 because of the settings and such, and back a couple months ago there wasnt THAT big of a diff (and cm is whats on my g2...so i thought id prefer it) now after using the latest 2.0 i cant believe how well this tab functions now.

so, netflix made me switch roms, and it works!!...but i got a bonus surprise with how well overcome really is.

very good day for my tablet!
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] ssserpentine:
Works perfectly on my us tmobile tab with overcome beta 1 and 2.3.3! Picture quality is very crisp. Streams with no lag

Works so well that I was on the phone with netflix yesterday and was telling the guy on the phone about it, info on 2.3.3.

and the the netflix app in his email got me 6 free months of service via coupons.

Awsome!
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] ssserpentine:
Also I think its funny that one of my other devices is actually supported and it doesnt work on it! Rather watch it on the tab anyways.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] shah_vm:
does not work on att stock rom.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] kevinjmoore:
I have a GSM Galaxy TAB, T-Mobile, running on ATT network with 3g/H and calls working...can someone send me through PM their buildprop, so I can edit mine...it seems mine is screwing up netflix. THanks for any help you can offer.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] rangercaptain:
Stock at&t rom is froyo. This app is for gingerbread.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] rangercaptain:
Really? How did you get that to happen? There is a $1000 reward for anyone who can do that!
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] Kuniokun:
Confirmed working in Galaxy Tab P-1010! with stock rom!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
any chance for a port of the famous amon recovery for the nexus s? clockwork is ok but i think amon is much easier and functional to use.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt2053:
Ask Amon.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryandoubleu:
....

I sent him a pm a few days ago, haven't heard back though
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 12MaNy:
Me too. Haven't gotten a reply. He seems partial to HTC.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lazy361:
Maaan...I agree. Clockwork is okay, but I really prefer AmonRa.

I've got a G2
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
i don't see why one of the devs here cannot port it if amon does not.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lopezpm:
I tweeted him last night about it
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 12MaNy:
Amon_RA kind of explains how to port RA Recovery in this link. Kinda looks like you just have to swap source and binaries.

Devs?

http://pastebin.com/KmhfXdQF
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AshsToAshs:
I loved Amon Ra's Recovery on the Nexus One. And id love to have it on my new Nexus S 4G.

Heres hoping a dev is kind enough to bless us with a port *fingers crossed*
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 12MaNy:
***BUMP***
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
bumping

10char
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 12MaNy:
I tried porting Amon_RA to NS4G, but it looks a little beyond my capabilities. I guess Koush is working on a ClockworkMod port for NS4G that'll backup RSA keys.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jorgeefflores:
Bump, would love to see this
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveisPeace2012:
Bummmmmp

;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snandlal:
Contact xhausx from evo. He can do this

Uncle Jimmy says hello
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jorgeefflores:
Any news on whether he can do it or not?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
i still hope we can port the amon recovery to the nexus s. it is much simpler to use and more functional. you cannot even successfully wipe dalvik in clockwork nor mount via usb in recovery, too many confirmation windows as well.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
i just send him a message about it. i told him id donate for it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jorgeefflores:
I would be willing to donate to that
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FingerprintDiVA:
I was just wondering if any clockworkmod releases are compatible with the Kyocera Echo or not. I'd imagine since it's a boot ROM, that there should be at least one that would work since it doesn't require many phone specific specs. (At least to my knowledge.)

Please let me know if you know of any. =)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FingerprintDiVA:
Shameless Bump
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msamuels0:
I'll bump this again, because I'd love to see one as well!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jamin13:
I'd love to see this as well.:D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SAlpIche:
DITTO! I will love to see some Echo love as well
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dreddge:
bumping another Echo thread.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myechophone:
A bump again... something to help the Echo users....
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingolianbeef:
we are trying to get the Echo community together from various forums and other places in order to find a way to get root for this device man! Please come and join, its absolutely free! and its for ppl like you guys that want to get the most out of your echo! We are constantly working, I am flashing different phone's recoveries like wild trying to see if one will work on the echo (this is like walking over a cliff because it could brick my device, which shows you how committed I am to this) Like I said we are all trying to get to an ultimate goal, and XDA doesnt take us seriously (not bashing XDA, because I love this site man) So head on over to Hear the Echo, sign up, do forum posts, and get our name out there!

P.S. - We are in need of donations (trying to get a lot more bandwidth for more users and lose the ".webs" piece to the site name) so if you want to buy me a phone case lol, we welcome them 100% of the way!

Thanks for the support,

Ognimnella
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kikiodead:
As of now at heartheecho.webs.com we have CWM working with roms in progress head over now!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jamin13:
Kind of late there...