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[Miscellaneous Android Development] ErisDroid?:
I agree with everyone here, we need a subforum for the PB. Once I got my PB this is the first place I came to see how to root it.

It took me two weeks to root it and get the android market working on it. HOWEVER, as one user stated before, there is no multi-tasking. The "Android Player" is ok but 90% of the apps that I wanted (and spent two trying to get to work) are either blocked by RIM (like Angry Birds because they have their own version and Crackle, because that requires flash and RIM doesn't apparently allow flash to work in the "Android Player") so there is no option but to try and flash a CM version to the playbook.

I would be more than willing to try. I have broken and fixed the PB a multitude of times. I have learned dingleberry and how to replace the important files are just the right moment to get what you want working, working. But I think getting around QNX will be tough. RIM keeps on patching it. If you have a PB and have upgraded to .6149 you can downgrade and try to install the android market, however if you want to keep root only upgrade back to .6149 and not any further. It's a pain and I would love to make this a solid Android Tablet, this has the hardware that can take android with out issue.

P.S. I'm trying to help, so I voted for the PB forum and will keep a close eye on this thread

Thank you all, I hope someone will tackle this.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Charlesnasi:
There is a Virtual Machine running BlackBerry QNX 1.0 available. Also an ISO-file with QNX-os V6. Interesting is the bootloader: On both systems the same bootloader(technique) is used. Maybe we can understand on this way how the Playbook (bootloader) works.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
The trick is the bootloader, once that is done a proper dual android port is only a matter of time. Many will hardly use QNX once android is on and if it is auto-updated to foolish RIM fixes to un-root within QNX, they can be rolled back into older QNX versions just like xsasha and Chris did for dingleberry3. Maybe a disabler patch for updates.

I think the dingleberry team is secretly working on an android port, maybe gingerbread. They might be waiting for OS2 to see if any nasty surprises, but I doubt it as they showed in Vegas and it is the samo samo. Even if they are they might need help, if not for gingerbread then definitely for ICS as it is much bigger. After bootloader anybody going for this needs to figure out device drivers and then android routines. Maybe they are not working on it. In any case they need more developers. I just had the ICS installed on HP Touchpad and WebOS is very similar to QNX. It will be great if we can have more devs taking this up and linking together which is why the PB Subforums here on XDA would be great for such purposes but the poll which is good PR for xda is dragging on and they say no winner is guaranteed with new people just registering. One alternative is to ask for a subforum on Rootzwiki where CM team release GB/ICS for Touchpad, site is so popular can't get on often in the last day or two.

I would say we first need a bootloader, device drivers, then Gingerbread or ICS

Anyway please post links of possible developer candidates here for networking etc etc:

Dingleberry team:

Chris https://twitter.com/#!/cmwdotme

neuralic https://twitter.com/neuralic

xpvqs https://twitter.com/xpvqs

hatax https://twitter.com/#!/_hatax_

xsasha? http://sacksofa.de/wordpress/?p=10

CM HP Touchpad team:

Erik http://twitter.com/#!/dalingrin https://gitorious.org/~dalingrin https://github.com/Dalingrin

Oleg http://www.youtube.com/user/greentheonly

JCSullins http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=2763462 https://gitorious.org/~jcsullins https://github.com/jcsullins

JonPry http://code.google.com/u/jonpry@gmail.com/ http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=2519762 https://gitorious.org/~jonpry https://github.com/jonpry

Of course the OP here skoperst and maybe you? Any more possible candidates? Post below including yourself if interested. With alpha0 ICS for Touchpad the CM team have opened the code so if you want to learn how to develop android for the first time there are links in the OP and you can try having a go or start learning for Playbook:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/15509-releasealpha0-cyanogenmod-9-touchpad/

We can ask for a PB subforum on rootzwiki as device is already rooted and PB2 and 10" will be launched too:

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#s...ootzwiki+playbook&pbx=1&oq=rootzwiki+playbook
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
divx118 is also a genius developer and also a very nice guy , did a very difficult gingerbread on his own, remarkable http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1335620

Also we can probably use the moboot bootloader used for dual webos/Android boot options on HP touchpad with some modifications on playbook.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Dingleberry 3.0.2 upgraded to 3.1.0

http://dingleberry.it/

New features:

http://bnxtreme.com/drupal/content/dingleberry-release-notes
[Miscellaneous Android Development] chealyjazz:
could not agree more with what you have said come on xda lets have it
[Miscellaneous Android Development] gurung_vishwas1:
Challenge for Great XDA Developers

I think this is a great challenge to XDA Developers to port ANDROID on Playbook, and to show their metal, they should accept the challenge.

I think they have already shown their skills with HP Touchpad, but here is one more great opportunity for them to show their Hacking Skills.

COME ON XDA
[Miscellaneous Android Development] tehdewm:
Android on the playbook would be very wonderful, but I don't like people who disregard the playbooks os. I honestly Like the QNX a lot more than android, but I also do love android too. It has always been fast and responsive right from the get-go, bezel swipes are nice, better than virtual touch buttons..

Back to the topic though, actual android booting would be a great advancement. Honestly though, I would only use it for apps that are not on playbook really.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
RIM has lost a billion dollars, see financial articles analysis, on playbook and might go under or be taken over in a hostile manner and dismembered for profit as a result of their misadventure.

Secondly the qnx world is a ghost town and doomed to die and will probably take down rim too. They should have gone dual boot with Android for os 2. They learned nothing from HP and webos which is a much bigger company and basically the swiping enhance based on that too.

Thirdly they put too many conditions on apps developers plus reduce their cuts or drive up apps prices or both plus treat them like garbage when they are the one needing to suck up to them as ios and Android who don't need to treat developers decent unlike rim.

Fourthly we are being realistic and trying to save them from going under and misplaced rose tinted glasses at this stage to encourage them is the quickest way to kill off your beloved company.

Fifthly I like all people even you but try to correct mistaken strategies to help them not lose the company which many predict won't see the year out. Further I like qnx and webos too but they are tumble weed roll Towns in terms of apps and won't survive next to apple and google. HP realized this reality but rim wants to go down due to this so I don't even dislike a mere software never mind people. I am sorry to hear you say because of peoples taste in software you prejudice whole groups of peoples and actually dislike them, this is sad. Best wishes.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] -]Megacharge[-:
I feel the same as you do. If Android is going to be ported to the Playbook, I want to keep QNX intact.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
Hey all. If you would all like, head to the crackberry forums to get ready for a skype petition for the BlackBerry playbook. Its under one of the main headlines.

The more support the better right?

Sent from my Atrix XDA Premium App
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
For the first time we have maintained no. 1 position in poll for days now and have a healthy lead of about 40 votes, can not be complacent again. Dingleberry updated with new features to version 3.2.0

http://dingleberry.it/

upgraded: 3.2.1
[Miscellaneous Android Development] amit864:
Take a hint. they are not creating the forum. every device that needs a forum got it. :(
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
what about Lg optimus ME P350 we knocked off as no.1? and all the rest on the poll?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Just passed a 1,000 votes:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1416406
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Kangal:
Voted!

Besides the iPad, the ONLY other good tablet is the BB PlayBook.

Not trying to be bias, but its the only company/device really striving hard.

The HP TouchPads were bad, which is why they warranted a CM-port when they went on the fire sale.

The Kindle Fire and Nook Touch are great for the price, but not so great as a tablet.

All Android tablets are bad on features or performance, the only outstanding models are the ASUS because they extend battery life and help typing with the keyboard.

Even with ICS they are lackluster, we need to wait for JellyBean 5.0 to see all the [MAJOR] tablet enhancements that Google left out of ICS.

My current strategy is to get 2 high-end devices:

A very large smartphone = SG NOTE (done)

A very small laptop = Toshiba Ultrabook (done)

They compliment each other nicely, and negate a purchase of a tablet.

However, the PlayBook can be had for ~$200 so its quite a compelling choice for me (especially when QNX 2.0 brings email, enhancements and dalvik).

To be or not to be [PlayBook owner], that is the question [I need help answering]!!!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Grnfinger:
voted

hope this gets added, playbook needs some lovin
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Chillboyx:
Playbook

I agree, I had a nook tablet, you'll see my only post here were on the forums looking for help rooting since its the only way to get the device to read certain files. I learned a lot, mainly that android is not the OS for me. I like things to work, touchscreens to be responsive, browser not crash and not have to reboot a device every 3 days. I returned my Nook for a Playbook 64gb. I love it! Its lacking apps obviously but its extremely smooth, best browser you'll find on a tablet. Looks great next to my iPhone. New OS 2.0 is coming February 17, and if its the knock out of the park we all expect, i'll pick up another one. Can't beat 200 bucks for a tablet that's STABLE and has HDMI out, 2 cameras. etc. New OS is supposed to have netflix, email, and quite a few other enhancements. Fingers crossed.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] NoobDev:
Bump-a-dee-bump-bump

Bump...

Any one have any progress? Or links. Me nubs around here and I've looking for this gem of a dev.

You'd think considering the price some one would have had ICS on one these bad boys by now. I'm not personally a big fan of RIM, but come on! 199.99 and dropping? Any one?

Preciate anything Dev masters!

~NoobDev
[Miscellaneous Android Development] developersdevelopers:
I'm expecting that the PlayBook will get a nice spike in interest due to the recent free PlayBook offer. RIM has certainly got my attention now.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Magnesus:
I think so too, I added my app to Blackberry World and they said they will send me Playbook. Shame it doesn't run apks with NDK, because most of my games use NDK (libGDX library).
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Whiskey103:
Okay guys..thread cleaned.

Please play nice.. there is no reason to go after each other ;)

Consider it a final warning!

Whiskey

Forum Moderator
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
RIM will not like it but we are in the lead by 151 votes in the poll race right now, woohoo!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
any publicity is good publicity ;)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] case0:
So I got my email earlier, my free Playbook is being shipped :D

Bit disappointed to learn no-one has ported Android to it though! Or that there isn't a section on XDA :(
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mixalot2008:
thats what needs to happen. we need to get a couple devs on board to port it over. id LOVE to have ICS running on this thing!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
The problem comes down to QNX is smooth as silk for me. I like how fluid it is, it just need native android support. I know 2.0 (which i'm hella excited for) does provide emulation of Android.. it's still not Android as we know it.

The playbook is more than powerful enough to run ICS or Honeycomb. Either way, even without native android, 2.0 is going to open up some doors for sure.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
I have Android market on Beta2. 2.0 FR1 was shown in Vegas and is basically the same, they might even close the gap so Android market on rooted devices might not work IMHO. So not much new at all. Another bad point is that they call it a wrapper but it is an android emulation in QNX. Another bad point is that you can only run one android app at a time. You run a launcher shell and then an app, so you only see that app till you cose it and launcher emulation comes back. So no more than one android app to switch between. Yet another bad point is that at least a third of android apps do not run or run with functionalities disabled or not working properly. Yet another bad point is that the android crash often. Yet another bad point is once an android app crashes, you have to wait 10 minutes or more for it to go away or reboot so you can launch another android app.

This is the best 7 inch device in hardware, needs a dual boot QNX/Android so you get two machines for one like I have with HP Touchpad WebOS/CM-ICS. WebOS is very similar to QNX, under the bonnet and even UI with swiping apps. The same moboot bootloader can be used to crack PB as HP TP was not a native android device and well locked down. The CM team have released the whole of their source for TP dual boot completely on rootzwiki. The Dingleberry team has nicely cracked the rooting. It is wide open and will have dual boot QNX/android just like WebOS/android. HC is closed, GB will be possible but a smaller job than ICS however ICs is the better choice for an alpha. Rooting is done via downgrading, bootloader is not a big job as in TP's moboot hack but the biggest hurdle will be monkeying around with the device drivers in the dark but that should take a couple of good programmers a few months hacking around a few hours a day to get screen, multi touch, wifi, bluetooth etc drivers done. Video hardware accleration, microphone and even sound can wait for a second alpha. If I had to bet I would say chances are there are people working on these already.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
The first bit may be a bit better with the actual release. Even if market goes, hopefully sideload will still work. I know that the latest Beta was unrootable, so not sure the best course of action. I'm assuming if you root on Beta 2, then update to release you will lose root, but if not.. then that's wicked. I had Beta 2 installed and rooted, but no android apps would launch, so I downgraded back to 1.8.

Second bit, will it really work? I would of thought it was kind of device dependant. I think a dedicated PB section on here would really result in major progress with the PB. The thing with the TP is it dropped to 99$, and everyone + their mothers mother went out and snatched one up. The playbook (in my opinion) is very underrated, and isn't taking the hacking spotlight it should. There is no huge community, no huge drive to crack it open (From what I have seen).
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
You are right on both points. I am not going to upgrade from beta2 as there was nothing new enough in Vegas to make me lose both Root and Android market. Even the two working thirds of android apps running in the bad ways I described above installed on demand from a non-gardenwalled market (forget the tumbleweed-roll ghost-town aka QNX-appsville) is better than nothing. I also have registered with RIM and convert my own APKs to BARs too but still wouldn't want to lose my Root and market. RIM is commiting suicide by not going proper dual boot with their tablets and as a result have opened up themselves to hostile takeovers and financial losses of over a billion due to their tablets division. Only Apple has been successful at doing both software and hardware. My verdict on the kamikazi RIM execs sabotaging (nevermind RIM's future) of Playbook? Oh my god they killed Kenny :D
[Miscellaneous Android Development] case0:
Yeh I agree, a PB section on here would be awesome.

Am I correct in thinking then, that it's easy to root but then the bootloader is still locked or something? Otherwise I would have thought porting ICS would be pretty easy considering the hardware.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
root was possible up until beta2 of 2.0 and even with root the bootloader is still locked. as was mentiondd though the touchpad bootloader that was made to hack the touchpad may be able to be modified to work on the playbook.

Just checked out dingleberry site.. looks like android, or an equivellant could be in the not too far future...

4.0.0	Development

Improved USB Host script to cater for when USB folder is already created.

Improved unified login to cope with when BDM has spammed.

Allows root on any future firmware including 2.0.0.7111 and 2.0.0.7629.

Allows loading of custom firmware and true permanent modification of /base.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] amit864:
pb OS 2.0 is released. Check out system update. Really smooth and now has email and calendar applications.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
Yeah I am loving it. The video store is awesome too.

Sent from my Atrix with XDA Premium App
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
Updated this morning at 7AM, must say I am quite impressed, not only by the changes, but the fact the app store is already being populated with the android apps. In no time I'll have everything I need.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] cyberhern:
2.0 is just not enough. We need Android. Running apps in a vm like box just isnt going to cut it IMO

LOVE THE HARDWARE. Unhappy with BB App World
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
eh, I've just converted the apps I use most into .bar files, granted not all of them convert/work but a majority do.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] cyberhern:
Wouldn't need to do that if you were running cm7 or cm9
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
+1 @cyberhern, some of us have had full android market on dingleberry rooted PBs plus apk2bar libs set up with OS2beta. Now people are getting excited with less android apps and even then many of them crash or have no full functionality as quarter-house towards android and some doing so despite great difficulty (see comments in links below) while tearing their hair out to get a few android apps and still diss android! I am not going to lose my full android market or root and will wait for dingleberry upgrade. Even then my rooted system is a half way house towards android. We need CM7 or CM9. I don't know why people who are repeating RIM slogans on how full android is garbage and QNX app ghost-town is shangrila and a few flakey android app lame emulations is enough, bother with rooting/android capability threads as we see in a few comments below? Lets hope we get CM7/9 before the device is obsolete like tumbleweed roll QNX appstown itself, these people will really get excited with a dual boot android/QNX:

http://crackberry.com/how-sideload-android-apps-playbook-os-v20-use-android-app-player

http://crackberry.com/how-get-kindl...ps-are-not-available-app-world-your-blackberr
[Miscellaneous Android Development] amit864:
2.0 is surely better of than "Hope" :p Let's see what comes up with dingleberry 4.0, I am not tool hopeful. Instead have upgraded to 2.0, and it's awesome for emails, games and browsing. I use my android phone for other apps like skype. Multi tasking is better than all in PBOS 2.0 (QNX).
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
I was right before and there is demand for rooting and modding PB as we are nearly 200 votes in the lead in the poll race as people want development on the PB despite wrong claims to the contrary earlier. RIM got a few apps and now email for the billion dollar loss making doomed obsolete QNX bankrupting RIM as even the CEO admitted after such a long time, well done and Elvis lives too! But lets keep this thread ON-TOPIC of the rooting issues and updates on PB.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] NoobDev:
PB for all

Where does one vote?

I'd like to send my vote that way. I think RIM would surely benefit from an easy ability to mod these tabs. I'd buy another one for my wife, she love Android!

~NoobDev
[Miscellaneous Android Development] nate51:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1416406
[Miscellaneous Android Development] cyberhern:
1,251 and counting! BBPB is STILL the only device in the 4 digits
[Miscellaneous Android Development] case0:
Hmm I got my free Playbook from RIM but I'm gonna sell it. Apparently because the bootloader is encrypted there is basically a 0% chance of unlocking it and getting Android on this thing.

Shame really. Kind of makes it pointless to get a dev section on here if you ask me, I didn't know about the encryption before :(
[Miscellaneous Android Development] marty331:
I'm currently waiting on my playbook to get to me, I haven't read this entire thread but surely there it's a way to get CM7 or 9 on this sucker. I'm writing this from my kindle fire and they are basically the same hardware right?? I'm running CM9 on the fire.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kabracity:
I'd like to have the bootloader unlocked as well, CM would be really cool. I think RIM could follow HTC steps and benefit from it
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
We have been telling RIM bankrupting itself over QNX to go dual boot to save all of Balckberry being dragged down by their tablet loss but they are just kamikazi, according to financial experts too. Even the mighty google a few months after ICS is planning to launch Jellybeans AND make it dualboot. RIM's QNX has no chance f survival as any OS needs to have a secure substantial global userbase which only Apple, Google & MS have.

http://www.intomobile.com/2012/02/1...ean-launch-q2-aimed-making-tablets-suck-less/

HP Touchpad with its WebOS (similar linux based multiproc swipe etc to QNX) had a locked bootloader too. It was cracked and moboot installed and has had GB & now ICS on it for some time. AND Source code opened up recently by CM team to all:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/18843-releasealpha2-cyanogenmod-9-touchpad/

Dingleberry team is preparng to "Allows loading of custom firmware and true permanent modification of /base." for v.4. Basically needs botloader cracked open like HP TP and main device drvivers sussed and yes it basically is the same machine as Kindle and even built by the same Chinese factory:

http://bnxtreme.com/drupal/content/dingleberry-release-notes

http://dingleberry.it/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Magnesus:
Great news. I just recieved Playbook for porting my game to it and I have to admit QNX is much worse than I expected. Android would make this device quite awesome though.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
What is wrong with QNX?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] case0:
Um, no. The Touchpad bootloader wasn't cracked - it was unlocked by HP. No-one has ever cracked an encrypted bootloader and RIM are the least likely company to give it up. There's basically no chance of unlocking the Playbook.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] morrislee:
When the playbook gets ditched by RIM like the touchpad, it might go open source then hahah