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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asincero:
@csmail, no I don't think I'm entitled to get it replaced/refunded. And I don't think it's a question of morals here. If NewEgg accepts it, then great! If not, oh well. Now if I went back to NewEgg and protested the rejection, then that would be ethically questionable. At least in my mind. I'm really at the mercy of NewEgg here. I can only cross my fingers.

I still, however, think this is normal wear and tear. It wasn't a bad brush against the door at all, and it's really something that would've happened eventually unless I babied it constantly.

Looking back to the commercial ASUS released where they had the guy out and about town with the Eee Pad, where he's in class taking notes with it, then he's outside with his friends where he callously undocks the Eee Pad to show his friends something, then he's at the coffee shop with his girlfriend playing a head-to-head video game with both of them banging away on it, and then he's at the skateboard park taking pics with it I'm now thinking "yeah right!". With that kind of treatment, his Eee Pad would be dead in a week.

Apparently, the only place this thing should be used is within the safe confines of your home held only by edges and placed softly on a pillow in a quiet secluded room when not in use. I'm not particularly rough with my gadgets. But devices such as these are meant to be *used*, not put in a glass case to be displayed. And it's supposed to double as a netbook? Yea, good luck with that.

I used a Samsung Galaxy Tab before this, and compared to the Eee Pad, that thing is built like a tank. It's still going strong.

Now with that rant out of the way, I was generally pleased with the Eee Pad. The IPS display was simply awesome. Battery life was also great. There were some software quirks, but I noticed ASUS has a FW update available which I was about to install sometime during the next few days. But I guess that's out now. If NewEgg has mercy on me, I'm on the fence on whether or not to get a replacement or wait until the new Galaxy Tabs come out.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crimton:
You are trying to justify returning a damaged device by saying it would have happened anyway unless you babied it. I'm not sure about other people but I baby all my gadgets and that's why they never get damaged like this. I'm not saying it would never happen to me because accidents do happen from time to time just like it did to you, but no accidents yet (knock on wood). From a moral standpoint, if you think you can get away with it and it doesn't bother you then maybe you'll get lucky and they will accept it. But for the record, no matter how many times you tell yourself its normal wear and tear banging something up against a door... its not.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrykur:
I think you are on the hook for this, so your options are send it into Asus for repair or repair it yourself knowing this likely voids your warranty.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asincero:
No I don't think NewEgg should give me my money back/give me a replacement because of a damage that I think would've happened eventually. The ball is entirely in their court and I will live with whatever decision they make. It'd be stupid not to try though. There is nothing ethically questionable about this unless I was being deceitful, which I am not.

I guess thats where you and I differ. It wasn't like I was using my Eee Pad as a door stop while not in use or something. It was a casual bump against a soft wooden door. It wasn't even a head-on collision. It was a swipe against the door. I am on order of magnitude way rougher with my cell phone, the aforementioned Galaxy Tab, and my laptop and they are all chugging away like the day I bought them.

I guess the original point of my post was to rant about the build quality of these Eee Pads. I buy these things to be tools, not to have to show off how much money I have. I wanted to be able to throw this thing into my bag when I go on travel or out into the field like I can with my Galaxy Tab. Turns it out it's way too fragile for that. It can't even take a casual bump. People reading this thread and considering an Eee Pad may want to take notice if durability is a requirement.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funnycreature:
You should try the XOOM instead. I miss its metal housing and overall superior stability. But it doesn't have the dock, IPS screen or the very useful ASUS software. I am selling mine on eBay right now but it was a very tough decision!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funnycreature:
Can I suggest that you plugin your charger to wake it up? Maybe that way you can at least still use it...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] junks2010:
Common guys, OP just wants to ask for opinions. Nothing unethical about this.

OP, if you used your AMEX when you ordered this, you can get your money back thru AMEX.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crimton:
Not saying you were being neglectful or anything, and yes it would be ideal for it to survive a brush with a hard surface. As I said before, if newegg takes it back, more power to you. however, just because you had a bad experience with it don't deem the build quality to be crap. I am happy with mine :) Having said that, as a former xoom owner I would say that the xoom would have come out of this unscathed most likely (not must because the power button is on the back either). The xoom was just a little more solid feeling, but it had it's drawbacks as well which I won't get into. In any case I hope it works out for you and you can remain a transformer owner. Also if you didn't already might I suggest purchasing the asus sleeve, it have been just enough protection to save you.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrykur:
Does purchasing through AMEX cover accidental damage?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] junks2010:
Yes. Unless they changed it recently.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] findmike:
Personally I think this thread was started by a troll since it's their second ever posting on a flame worthy subject. But for the record, Newegg is obviously not responsible for someone damaging their own device so asking them to eat $400 because someone was careless seems rather deplorable.

The answer is pay to get it fixed or fix it yourself.

As far as not being deceitful I would agree with you if you submitted an RMA request that said "Banged Device Against Door and Broke It". You did not do that because it would be declined so you lied. You're not betting on their mercy, you're betting on them being too busy to notice that you trashed it.

Anyway, I like Newegg. They have great customer service, reasonable prices and cater to the geeks among us. It's a shame when people lie and cheat to get game a system that once broken leaves us in the hands of Best Buy and Amazon.

There's a reason most of us use cases or put silicon skins on our fancy little devices when out in the wild, they are fragile. I don't see anything about the build quality of the Transformer to make me think it is more or less so true for this device.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asincero:
Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. But I can assure you I am not trolling.

The good news is I just managed to fix it myself just now. Turns out the bump caused the power button to get stuck. I took a dulled box cutter and pried the back lid open just a little to unstick it. Now the button clicks when pressed like it should and everything works as before.

So that this thread isn't a total waste of time, I'll just say that people need to know that this thing doesn't have the greatest of build qualities. Especially since it can convert into a netbook, the Eee Pad really needs to be more rugged. Even when in netbook mode, the buttons and so forth are still vunerable and if I treated it the same way I treat my laptop, I'd have a $400 ($550 including the dock) paper weight in no time.

I had to talk to a customer rep to get an RMA number for the Eee Pad. It's not my fault she didn't ask for specifics. Furthermore, I would presume they inspect the merchandise before proceeding with the RMA at which point they would

clearly be able to see the damage on the power button. How can I possibly be still at fault if they decided to still proceed with the RMA?

Yea, I agree. I hope you're not talking about me though because I'm not lying or cheating. They could've either given me the refund/replacement or not. I would've accepted either result.

Great! Know where we can get one for the Eee Pad? I got the official $40 ASUS sleeve for it from NewEgg, but as you can probably conclude by now that didn't do squat as far as protecting anything. And not those sleeves where you have to take the tablet out of it to use it. That hurts usability if you're trying to use your tablet like a digital book or something.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] levenite:
To all you "moral guys". Has anyone who has posted here bought a device, rooted it, restored it then returned it?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrykur:
Not me. Nor would I buy a Xoom use it for a bit and return it because I liked the Transformer better. But that is just my code.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seshmaru:
I take it everywhere and I don't baby it. I even take it sailing with me where it tends to slide around and bump into stuff, yet mine still seems to be in pristine condition. So no it wouldn't be dead in a week.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seshmaru:
I've never returned a rooted device when I bricked it.

I would probably return it though if it was a technical fault and not because I bricked it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
mine was in the sleeve in a laptop case while traveling and still had 2 Knicks on the bezel. the metal seems pretty soft as I even dented it with my fingernail.

I've got morals... screw big money corps or take advantage of them any time you can and believe theyll do the same to you. but regular folks I help or give good deals to.

I wanted sooo bad to keep it but I finally took it back. all our devices should be as sturdy as you seshmaru. this show a lack of good qc from whom ever assembled the tablet. almost makes you wonder if they were assembled at different plants with all these different and common issues.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seshmaru:
maybe because from reading these forums I feel really lucky.

I generally treat my tablet like ****, it was first batch yet I have no issues with it or the dock aside from wifi disconnecting every 3 hours or so with dock connecting. Personally i really like the build quality. It feels rugged, yes it has some creak but I've even dropped it from about 4 feet a few times with no visible damage.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuntdouble:
You must have some seriously strong monstrous fingernails, or your bezel must be made from a totally different material to mine. They must have either used different factories or just different quality parts for a few of these units as there's no chance of denting mine with a fingernail thats for sure.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] finalhit:
so you're gonna tell newegg the whole truth? or perhaps leave out some details that might not seem favorable towards your cause? i'm not one to judge because something quite similar happened to my phone (volume-down button stopped working, not quite sure but it may have when it went into a very very midle drop from it's car mount to the car floor (less than a foot drop, to my car's rubber mat)

anyway, took it sprint, told them it's broken, when really light on the details, rma approved, they asked me for the $35 fee, and voila, a brand new (not a refurb) replacement 2 days later.

I'm aware what i did was morally dubious, but hey, at least not trying to rationalize it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
it was most likely a week spot or possibly a chip of paint flaking off. i didn't examine it very closely as i noticed it before it took it back. it was on the lower left where i was seeing how far the bezel could move.

how about this scenario... doesn't every mfg have samples that don't pass inspection? is it possible they pushed out the failing samples knowing they can just to meet demand? or is it possible the mfg did it to keep up with production.

we do it sometimes at my job when a customer has to have their job quickly and something doesn't go perfectly. we put a few "bad" ones at the bottom. now the "bad" ones usually aren't really bad and very usable, just not up to our quality standards.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuntdouble:
Possibly but Asus has a strong brand and a reputation to uphold so I wouldnt have thought they would. We'll never know though of course. Their factories could be infested with rats being sick into the plastic/metal moulds causing weakened casings for all i know. :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cesarcerros31:
What would happen if I were to flash a market app renamed it to update.zip and when I went through rom manager and it would do anything and pulled battery would it brick?

sent from my HTC evolution running a freshly baked gingerbread with the 4gs in it
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
I don't think that would brick it. Why????
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cesarcerros31:
Did it to a friends vibrant and it just stuck there at clockworkmod so I told him just to pull the battery if it to too long just making sure cause I had the butterflies that I needed to get a new one

sent from my HTC evolution running a freshly baked gingerbread with the 4gs in it
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Ah I see. Well if you just reboot back into recovery, it should be fine.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cesarcerros31:
Alright thanks for the help

sent from my HTC evolution running a freshly baked gingerbread with the 4gs in it
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cesarcerros31:
Glad to report I wont need to buy a new vibrant

sent from my HTC evolution running a freshly baked gingerbread with the 4gs in it
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MJT6981:
No matter what ROM/Kernel I flash to i loose my WIFI access. When I go into settings/Wifi it just says ERROR. Anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhodiggah:
With CM7.0.3.1, I have been using bcblends tinyrcu (available through kernel manager) and leave min/max as is (806max/245min) make sure you wipe cache/dalvik before installing the kernel...

Hope this works for you.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilgrass71:
When it does that is your SD card not mounted anymore and requires a reboot for it to see it again? That happens to me smetimes
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhodiggah:
SD card should be mounted. It's only unmounted when I plug my phone to the computer to transfer files and such...
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtkansan:
Same thing happens to me with kernels. Sometimes Wimax too. I'm using mik shift, works fine with stock kernel.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilgrass71:
Maybe its just my luck w cards... been running cm7 stables and had two 8 giggers die one me... one kingston class 4 and a sandisk class 6... its happening again on my last 8 gigger too!
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urgaynknowit:
I have a regular evo with this same problem, tried 3 dif kernals, and upteen romflashes.... still have wifi error in settings
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urgaynknowit:
still no progress on this, i still have this problem... super gay
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raid31:
I too am getting an "Error" when trying to turn wifi, Logcat says " Wifi Driver missing" have tried rebooting, and flashing another rom. any help?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prboy1969:
Well it's probably been said before, but here goes When you flash a new Rom make sure you do a FULL wipe. It's seems trivial, but not doing this can and usually does cause all kinds off issues. Also, you should check your WiFi settings, and make sure they're correct.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raid31:
Full wipe has been done and what wifi settings are you talking about? phone settings can't be accessed because the phone can't turn wifi "on". is it possible to extract the wifi driver from another shift? i have another one at my disposal. BTW wifi was working a day ago no problem. i havn't flashed a new ROM in months and was on a stock rooted rom.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lvpre:
Have you tried to ruu back to stock to see if you have the same issue? Or nandroid back to a version where it worked?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raid31:
yea ruu'd back to froyo, re-rooted and reinstalled updated radios, and am back to gb. any idea where the wifi drivers would be? thanks for the replies.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lvpre:
Have you just tried it from a stock froyo rom? RUU back to 2.2 and just try it from there. It should reflash all the proper radios. Maybe the wifi chip is defective in the phone too. It happened at work to a co-workers playbook.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prboy1969:
+1 on that. Also if it was working then not. Something else might be up, are other devices able to connect to that WiFi spot with no issues? It is possible to extract the wifi driver from another SHift. But if you just RUU back to stock it should work. If not somethingelse is definately wrong. To get to the settings: Menu-Settings-Wireless & Networks-Wi-Fi settings-menu-Avanced.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raid31:
yea went ruu'd back to stock, no dice. wifi just says "error" after "turning on", must be an internal problem. other devices work fine on this point. what would be the steps to extracting the driver from another shift, i have one ready to go.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prboy1969:
If you RUU'd back to stock, and it's a still no good. Then you might want to consider getting a replacement if WiFi is really important to you. Especially if you know for sure that other devices can connect, and you cannot on a stock Rom. But you do risk getting an updated Shift. Not a risk worth taking in my eyes. Did you make sure and check all the settings?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raid31:
Yea all the settings are good, it definitely seems to be an internal problem at this point. I'm weighing the options right now and came close to ruu'ing to gb to see if it solved the problem, but I just couldn't give up root.

only 2 things come to mind on what caused this, i attempted to update to the newest ota htc update over the stock rom, ( i know stupid, got the android + !) and i installed an app to transfer files over wifi.

Wifi isn't too important but I hate the feeling of not having my phone %100.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawayne21:
Same problem here. I just got a wifi-error running the latest shift-deck. The phone was brand new with a bad esn (planning to flash to a different carrier) and was first turned on 8/2/11. so basically 2 weeks turned on. This just happened 2 days ago. Cleared everything and flashed again. Don't know how to RUU or what it is. Anyone want to explain?
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lvpre:
Ruu basically puts the phone back as if it were just out of the box. There is a thread somewhere here with the file. Just make sure you get the froyo version, otherwise you won't be able to root.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wave Runner:
Ok, I followed all the instructions on rooting without a computer and all went well. I have root, CWM2.5.1 and DRockstar.Clean.Kernel.EC05.v1.02.zip working just fine. However, when I go to update PRL and profile, I get errors and it doesn't work. Any suggestions?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shiftr182:
Its a common problem with sprint.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wave Runner:
So it's not to rom/kernal?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
Something could have happened in the flash. You can verify by Odin back to stock and see if you can update. Sprint fixed there end so most phones update again.

Do you BONSAI?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shiftr182:
I havent been able to update stock or custom for about a week now. Its no biggy, I know Im on the current prl.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviee7:
Hey I thought you had a transform... Upgraded ftw?
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TrekMedic:
Alright I've fixed this issue but how do I prevent it from happening again? Its a PITA to reflash everything each time this happens. Running CM7
[General Questions and Answers] jkazakh:
how to create or change language pack for android system and add this? , where is aboat system language file in the android??
[Thunderbolt General] tu3218:
I've always just let my apps automatically restore but I would like to use my backup of apps with my backup pro. But once they restore they don't show downloaded in the market. How can I change this?
[Thunderbolt General] yumms:
Go to settings > applications > manage applications > all - find market and google framework services. Clear cache/data for both...reboot. Open market.

Wait a few mins and all the apps will show up in the downloaded section.
[Thunderbolt General] sirlancelot323:
This was happening to me yesterday.

I went to Manage Applications->All->Market, and then clicked "Force Stop", and then "Clear Data". I reloaded the market, accepted the terms, and everything showed up again.

If just clearing the data doesn't work, force stop it and then clear. That worked for me.
[Thunderbolt General] tu3218:
okay guys that worked, thanks. I have another question though now, so because I didn't want my apps to automatically install, I used my alternate gmail account(the one my paid apps aren't associated with) to first log in with the market so I could download My Backup Pro. After restoring my apps, I logged into my original main gmail(the one the paid apps are associated with) and my paid apps still haven't showed up. What can I do to make them show up?
[Thunderbolt General] mcmillanje:
Hard reset / wipe and use the right Gmail first.

Sorry but the first one you put on is the one and only Gmail linked to the market. You must use that one if you want your paid apps.

Also: I know you use my backup.. but titanium backup has a "market doctor" feature that finds missing market links and lets you re-establish them.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmb0x:
Ok this might be a bit lengthy.

Yesterday I got a replacement EVO because my last one stopped taking a charge (luckily I was able to lock it and flash back to stock).

It's been almost a year since I last rooted an EVO, and I thought I remembered all the steps. So this morning I rooted it (unrevoked). Cleared all the cache's, and then flashed Calkulin's EViO 3 v1 Beta 2.

Well once it booted up all I got was 1x, not 3g. I then tried to flash EVO_Radio_2.15.00.04.08_WiMAX_27925_PRI_NV_1.90.00 3. And then reflashed EViO 3 again.

Again I only have 1x. After this I realized I ****ed up big time. I didnt grab any numbers from the radio screen or make a 4g key backup OR make a nand backup.

The phone is saying the following:

baseband_ver: 2.15.00.11.19

PRI_ver: 1.90_003

PRL_ver: 01115

Hardware information is "unavailable" for 4G MAC Address, Wifi MAC Address, and Bluetooth Address.

So how badly did I **** up? Is this something that
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
It'll show up as unavailable unless you're actually connected, then it'll show.

Also, if you're on AOSP, it'll show 1x because it shows true data strength unlike sense.

Did you run the 3G fix on a sense rom?