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[Nook Color General] brucemcl:
I appreciate that Google is announcing all of this. And I hope things work out well with HC and ICS. But many things can happen in six months. Here is a more cynical reading of Google's announcements:

1. Honeycomb - We tried to catch up with Apple's iPad. It didn't work out real well. HC is a kludge we made to get tablets on the market fast. We are not going to release the source code for HC, ever.

2. ICS - We will have a statue of an ice cream sandwich on the lawn next to our other Android statues. We will have this statue in place by December 31, 2012. As far as manufacturers having ICS phones and tablets you can buy for the Christmas holidays, well, we aren't promising anything.

I know this is harsh, but this is also reality. Google worked hard for quite a while before Android for phones became good to excellent. I believe that Google will get the whole tablet <-> phone integrated operating system working very well. I hope it happens sooner rather than later.

Right now I am running CM7 on my Nook Color and enjoying it. I don't feel like I'm missing out by not having Honeycomb, but I'm sure I'll give it a try before too long.
[Nook Color General] angomy:
From Phonescoop:

"Google today confirmed that the new Ice Cream Sandwich system software will be able to run on nearly all current Android hardware. It won't have any specific hardware requirements that might preclude it from working on older handsets."

Does NC count as current Android hardware? :D
[Nook Color General] japzone:
This pretty much means, anything that can run 2.2 and 2.3 will probably be able to run Ice Cream, that includes the Nook Color, although we'll probably have to wait for someone to get a ROM for Nook working. Depending on how Ice Cream will be setup, we may need to also wait for CM8 to have a good experience with it. But who knows, maybe it'll already have all the Features needed to be usable on the Nook.

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[Nook Color General] dalingrin:
Honeycomb and/or ICS shouldn't be a problem for us. By the time ICS source is released we might even have a 2.6.35+ kernel port(not that its needed).
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
I am more excited at the thought that you (and others) may still be around with the nook at that time. Word that i am reading is the ICS will drop late this year (like, Oct or later), so if you guys stick around with us that long, it would be awesome.
[Nook Color General] dalingrin:
I probably will. I've no plans to buy another tablet until Tegra 3 and ICS.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Works for me. Heck, even if you do get another tablet, perhaps we can persuade you to hold on to your nook and develop on it, for old times sake. ;)
[Desire General] bailz2506:
Hi guys just a quick question..

How do i move apks from previous roms i have stored on my pc and sd card onto new roms i flash???

I have kept setcpu and a few others from miui celebration by backing up and restoring with titanium backup but im looking for a better solution than flashing these roms and backing up with titanium over and over.

I tried to search for help but the search is down atm maybe due to maintenance or something.

all help is appreciated
[Desire General] elot01:
What i do normally is making a backup with MyBackupPro.

Then flash a new rom.

Install MyBackupPro again and restore the data and apk's i need.

Takes less then 10 minutes to restore a lot apk's.

But your SD card needs to be big enough for backup and nandroid backup (just in case......)
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Yogi3:
Hello ALL! (:

What's the best music app for the Nexus S?

I have Double Twist and also the latest version of Google music that came out 05/10/2011...
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Vandam500:
PowerAMP is badass.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] xceleration:
I personally swear by PlayerPro. It's the only player I've come across that allows you to skip tracks using your volume buttons while on the lockscreen. This means you can control your music without ever taking the phone out of your pocket. I tried PowerAmp as well as it's a pretty popular player, but I don't think PowerAmp has anything that PlayerPro can't match, if not outdo.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] KidCold:
PowerAmp can skip tracks using the inline button. Very handy.

Im pretty sure the shuffle on poweramp is a bit dodgy though. It seems to take a random 10 or so songs and shuffle it that way. Makes repeating songs quite often imo. Plus poweramp tends to eat up more battery for some reason.

Ive been using winamp atm.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] nwbee:
Google Music 3 and TTPOD 2, i think both are best combination
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Si_NZ:
I'd say Rockbox is the most powerful. It's a port of the popular open source firmware for many digital portable players. Supports a huge number of codecs, replaygain, powerful playlist features, and many advanced features for you to explore. Its UI is a bit counter-intuitive if you are a first time user, but once you learned you way around the app, you'll enjoy it very much.

You can take a look at some of the screenshots I took here:

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=423&t=2052983&last=26799835
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Linus82:
Spotify :D
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ykphuah:
Tried the stock app and also winamp for 5 hours of listening, winamp seems to suck more battery than the stock app?
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ElChe:
PowerAMP is the best you can get...
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] suksit:
Wow, didn't know it's already usable, this gonna be my weekend project -- compiling Rockbox for my Nexus S :D
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] garion521:
Poweramp..! Especially if like me you like playing from folders instead of playlists.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] askpcguy:
(Hides) the miui music player!

Sent from the miui matrix SGH-i897
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] dls5375:
Miui and playerpro are my favorites.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] demo23019:
MIUI Music

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10759966#post10759966

"3" ..great music player with nice 3D interface

https://market.android.com/details?id=org.abrantix.rockon.rockonnggl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm-ezu7AE5s
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Yogi3:
Thanks everyone for you're input but went ahead and kept the Android 3.0 app and deleted the double twist will only download it when ever I need to fix my play list ...
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] peeturr:
PowerAMP hands down. Most powerful music player with EQ settings, great folder organization, lockscreen widgets, album art downloader, and headset compatibility.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] askpcguy:
Wow thank you Demo. Cubed is going to occupy all my time now!

Sent from the miui matrix SGH-i897
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] lopezpm:
That's what I use and I love it. It may not have a ll the options and customization the others have but it's a blast to use. Love it. You can hold on a song or folder and add them to the cue for instant playlist.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] suksit:
Finally got Rockbox running on my Nexus S :D Don't have to convert all my FLAC files anymore woo hoo!
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Babydollll:
Power Amp. Period. Worth every penny IMO.

Where is MY cookie? :mad:

There is nothing outside of OT! :) ;) :p :D
[Thunderbolt General] bking_soda:
So... I'm winding down from my day, drinking a couple beers and checking XDA for anything I've missed throughout the day. Keep in mind this is my first Android, coming from crapberry... I know it hasn't been out long and there are issues with ril(which I don't know anything about)... I feel like some of the things I have found here I really like have slowed down, if not stopped. Before I get flamed, I understand there is a tremendous amount of work that goes into every Rom and theme we see. I just hope to see that at some point, this phone gets to the point we all hope it will. I'm trying to learn as much as I can and help anyone with questions my limited Android knowledge can accomplish. Feel free to use this thread to vent and rant... Let's get it all out here. Many thanks to the devs still holding strong... I'm just looking for thoughts on how far the development will go with this phoned compared to the EVO's I'm compared to everyday at work.
[Thunderbolt General] Jaxidian:
3 things to keep in mind:

1) CM7 is damn near stable and they're working hard on it. That said, [nearly] everybody who isn't working on CM7 is essentially waiting on the CM7 team to finish since [nearly] everybody wants an AOSP-based ROM. So why would they keep pouring tons of time into their current ROMs since they'll very soon be thrown away?

2) Google I/O. Quite a few of our favorite devs are being distracted by either attending or closely following this event.

3) End of the school year. A lot of our favorite devs are either high school or college students. And many of those who aren't have children. As such, this is a rough time of year for them.

Look at all of this and you shouldn't be all that surprised that things have slowed down for a bit. But I promise you, the TBolt will be one of the main platforms that people will be hacking for a while. We'll have CM7, we'll have MIUI, and we'll have many other custom ROMs and kernels. Just be patient while they get the RIL stable. This is the FIRST phone that has supported LTE and this is also the first phone (that I'm aware of) that has supported eHRPD - there are definitely some lessons that need to be learned, and that takes time.
[Thunderbolt General] Smok3d:
A good amount of stuff has came out with the RIL still not completed, once the RIL is completed, the flood gates will open and you will see a large amount of ROMs made.
[Thunderbolt General] feedhead:
... so this is about getting compared to the EVO? You guys have pork sword fights at work too?
[Thunderbolt General] bking_soda:
Hey now... Pork sword fights are saved for after work. Haha. Not comparing to the EVO, just stating that its been out much longer and had more dev time.
[Thunderbolt General] fillyo:
In addition, once 2.3 leaks, the floodgates will open again.
[Thunderbolt General] MisterDonut:
Hey B Soda,

I'm in the same boat as you. I loved my BB Bold dearly. So easy to pimp them girls on it. Just the simplicity of the keyboard, being able to connect with other people.

However now being on my first android, i felt that I made the switch at the right time.

With BlackBerry I felt i could write a good email and msg friends all day, but I could never ever use the browser or attempt to download anything because it really was useless.

Tbolt on the other hand, I was able to do everything that i couldn't do on my blackberry, Msging still sucks on the Tbolt, But it is way way better then trying to browse on a blackberry.

With that said, there is still something i miss about the blackberry, but honestly i couldn't be happier.

One more thing, When i first got into android i was completely loss. I have no idea what to do. It was hours and hours of mindless surfing on many different android websites. Hours of reading on root and roms.

Anyhow Android is the future. Long live Google!!!
[Thunderbolt General] nerozehl:
I see it like this: the Thunderbolt is still an infant--it eats, sleeps, cries, pukes, and poops. When it gets more mature, it can crawl, walk, talk, and more! It just needs some TLC and patience!
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
It hasn't even been 2 months. It took a whole month if not more I believe to root the Incredible if I remember correctly. Learn some patience people.

You can't compare this phone to the EVO, the EVO has been out for almost a year now.
[Thunderbolt General] ddgarcia05:
I gotta agree with the OP.

Development seems to be at a stand still. I understand most developers are waiting for the ril to be completed. But, while we're waiting other phones will be released and developers will start to look towards that phone for development support. I think we'll be left behind. And it really does seem like only 2 developers are working on getting the ril, but when the G2 was rooted it seemed like all of team douche was working to get the ASOP ROM up and running. With the Thunderbolt it's more like team Slayer. Progress was made quickly with the G2 and other devices. Quickly even with team douche building for all devices at once.

I'm not slapping other developers in the face. I'm currently running adrynalyne build, and I like. Great battery life. But I want the speed and stability other devices have with CM7. I really do appreciate the having the support we currently have. And I've donated to the developers of my choice in support of their work.
[Thunderbolt General] lippstuh:
Coming from the OG Droid, I noticed that many ROMs are based on CM. So we WILL see many more roms.

I can assure you we will get 2.3.4 sometime in the future especially since HTC "promised" that we'll get some kind of 2.3 version. 3.1 was announced at Google I/O, but that probably won't happen until mid next year for us (if we are lucky).
[Thunderbolt General] miketoasty:
This is the first Verizon 4g phone. The ril is brand new to all. The phone will take off when the ril is polished and released.
[Thunderbolt General] jab476:
I would pay money just to get a virus rom update
[Thunderbolt General] ilovebbq:
i can't wait til they send me my sim card for the tbolt :D
[Thunderbolt General] sc4fpse:
While I don't have a Thunderbolt and I'm still rocking an OG Droid, I do believe I can say something about this.

I suspect that a lot of people share in these sentiments, myself included. But I believe the reason why is because so many people were amazed at the community that developed after the Droid 1 was released. The Motorola Droid really revolutionized the Android ecosystem. With Android 2.0, Android changed big-time. The Droid (and Android 2.0) was leaps and bounds over anything that had predated it in the Android world, and there was all sorts of development options that opened up with the creation of that new phone.

Unfortunately, I believe that the days of new findings and developments like in the days and weeks in November and December '09 are gone for good, and won't be matched by anything in the near future in the Android world. New phones will come and go, the Thunderbolt included. There will be big-time phones (again, like the Thunderbolt) that people will naturally be attracted to, and those will be the centers of development for the community for a good period of time. But I don't believe you will ever again see a surge in development like you saw for the Motorola Droid.

There is definitely still plenty of development going on in a community like this. It just doesn't seem like as much as there was in the Android community in the past, and it definitely wasn't as much. But I don't think we can ever match those numbers again, so don't let that comparison get you down. :)
[Thunderbolt General] TheLoonyRebel:
I fully agree with what you said. So far there has been some really good to great stuff but I feel personally this is only the beginning of what potential lies within what could be done with ROMs on the Thunderbolt. I can't wait for the RIL to be finished.
[Thunderbolt General] feedhead:
I got my OG Droid in Nov. 09 and I personally do not think ROM development was the golden age like you are so fondly remembering. Verizon's first android phone brought a lot of new people to android. It still took quite awhile for community to evolve.

People seem spoiled now ... TB is new tech, we need to give it time. The Devs are bringing out some very Nice sense based ROMs and AOSP will follow... give it time.
[Thunderbolt General] ProTekk:
"Is dinner ready yet?!" No. "Is it ready yet?!" No. "How about now?!" No. *shoe to the head* "Ow! What the hell was that for?!"

You get the picture. This is exactly what you guys are doing here but it won't be a shoe that you'll get to the side of your head, you'll have pushed a good developer or two away and then you'll really be crying.

Btw, first paragraph is a true story. Actually happened to me a few times.
[Thunderbolt General] retundamonkey:
Cheers, I'm thinking the same thing...
[Thunderbolt General] Jaxidian:
So how, exactly, do you expect other LTE devices to leave us left behind? EVERY SINGLE Verizon LTE device will build upon what is done for the RIL with the Thunderbolt. If anything, add'l LTE devices coming will actually HELP the Thunderbolt community! At some point, yeah, we'll move past the Thunderbolt. But that won't be until multi-core phones blow single-core phones away. And we're not close to there yet. Perhaps Ice Cream Sandwich will make that a reality (we hope) and that's still 7(?) months away!
[Thunderbolt General] shoot2scre:
I, like many others here am coming from the OG Droid. Development took a while on that platform too but because it was a 'Google Experience' phone, the updates came out fast and with reckless disregard for us having to wipe our phones constantly. To my knowledge (limited as it may be) there was never an issue with missing parts/pieces because up until GB, the OG Droid was always first to receive updates. That being said, I'm running the latest BAMF and it runs great, battery life is mediocre to good and I typically get 12-14 hours on a charge with average use. Running Nav or gaming hard will take me down to 10 hours or less. I honestly have no complaints.

I read that Sense 3.0 isn't 'officially' coming to the TB. Does that mean that they will instead develop a Sense 2.x and move that through GB and HC/ICS? Developing two separate versions of Sense? Talk about fragmentation...
[Thunderbolt General] ibe2fly:
i just came from og droid for 2 years, ill be in the tb community for a bit. Its a fast phone.
[Thunderbolt General] ProTekk:
You're a genius.

#1.) "there was never an issue with RIL or missing parts/pieces"

OG Droid != LTE radio so that point is null and void

#2.) "the updates came out fast and with reckless disregard for us having to wipe our phones constantly"

Really? It comes with the territory and for many other reasons such as incompatibilities. Get used to it.

#3.) "up until GB, the OG Droid was always first."

I wonder why?

#4.) "Developing two separate versions of Sense? Talk about fragmentation..."

That has absolutely nothing to do with Android fragmentation if that's what you're getting at.
[Thunderbolt General] Daswolven:
Regarding messaging, Try Swype. I can push 55 wpm in texts or emails.
[Thunderbolt General] shoot2scre:
Wow, easy killer.

I realize for you... Internet = Serious business. But try to breathe.

I realized the OG Droid isn't LTE... is that some sort of secret? I was merely voicing that comparisons to the OG Droid are somewhat off-target since there was no issue with missing parts, etc. (I.e. - Everyone should relax, and give devs time).

The "reckless disregard for us having to wipe our phones" was a joke... I apologize if the sarcasm was lost on you.

There is no wondering why the OG Droid was always the first phone updated. I stated as much in my first post. I'm not sure what kind of response you were hoping to get with your third comment/statement.

Clearly, Sense-fragmentation has nothing to do with Android fragmentation. Did I imply that in any way? I was asking if HTC was really planning on developing a version of GB/HC/ICS for those phones they deem incapable of running Sense 3.0. Ultimately resulting in Sense itself becoming fragmented. (again I didn't think the first post was confusing).

If you are done being condescending and trying (poorly) to talk down to me and actually want to respond to any of my questions intelligently, or if you can comment constructively, have at it. I crave a healthy debate/discussion.

Otherwise, piss off.

PS - If you have a serious learning disability then let me take a moment to apologize if any of my comments have offended you or if you didn't understand them the first time around. I hope by way of clarification, we are good now.

PPS - Nice avatar... I remember the first time I got to kiss a girl too. Of course I was 12... but hey, we all have to start somewhere.

PPPS - Seriously dude. Nobody cares that you have a girlfriend. Over half the world is unhappily married. Making out with a girl is no great achievement. Celebrating it is like handing out participation trophies for the last place finishers in the special olympics.
[Thunderbolt General] ProTekk:
Hahahahahaha, you just made my day here at work with that. Dude, I <3 you no lie. I needed that :D :p
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
lmao, I was dying when I read this. I remember when he "quit" the android dev scene because they broke up, lol.
[Thunderbolt General] ProTekk:
I laughed at it too but let's clear this up.

I didn't "quit" because of that situation. I left for some time because I realized how much of my time I was dedicating to this stuff and what woke me up was that. So, go ahead and bash about my personal issues but at least get some facts right. I was spending nearly 16 hours a day doing nothing but fiddling with code 7 days out of the week. Any sane person would see that they should realize that I was ****ing retarded for spending that amount of time on the computer. I got my **** together and I'm back. That's the story. Take it for what it is.
[Thunderbolt General] lippstuh:
16 hours a day for 7 days of the week.... you really need a life and to learn how to program.
[Thunderbolt General] Jaxidian:
*goes back to check if the subject of this thread was "Relationship Therapy for Devs"*
[Thunderbolt General] ProTekk:
Isn't that what I stated I needed to do? Yupp. Did I do it? Yupp. I'm now happily working full time as a sys admin in corporate. I have balance now and that's why I'm back and not 24/7 like I used to be.
[Thunderbolt General] Adrozz07:
Well, just wait until you have sex for the first time. You may just quit computers all together......... and lighten up a little too...........-.-

Blundered from my Dunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
The first time I had sex I didn't go on myspace for a whole week...
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
A lot of idiots in this thread attacking Protekk about his avatar.

I bet they are all virgins too.