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[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Remember, people have said they would do a final build. This could be it or close to.
[Epic 4G General] crawrj:
Yeah is any other US carrier this close to putting out official Gingerbread? I am very happy with the progress that we are seeing.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I hope so, its great to know they're trying to get it right this time.

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[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
I sometimes think -and have mentioned- that most of these "leaks" are released by companies so that we find bugs for them, try and fix them so they can later on add them to the official builds (or next test builds).
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Yes, and i'd prefer it that way. They don't have to be open about it if that's what they are doing, cause its working out the way it is.

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[Epic 4G General] crawrj:
I definately agree with that.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
My prediction is spot on. June 20th is my new precise date for gingerbread.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
No, we could possibly be first.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I might subscribe to the EVO forum and watch them get annoyed if it does drop. I'm petty.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Ill have my prediction next week sometime when more is known, because it really might be sooner...

Im getting tired of changing this...
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Lol, I sn pretty sure everyone but the nexus communities will be pissed. Especially thunderbolt, g2x, atrix evo and g2
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Well see if your source says anything different than mine.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Hopefully, one is really close to today :p. This is great news, even if it is june 20th

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[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
But a lot of it has to do with the way noob worded things... if you go back and read some of his posts, they come across exactly ad someone posted earlier: noon was sticking it to the man. Was this the case or was something just lost in translation? Who knows... but at this point, I can say that perhaps I was wrong, perhaps noob came across as an arrogant ***** simply because English isn't his first language, and for that I am sorry.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
hopefully it drops by june 19th, my birthday :)! getting gingerbread for my birthday!!!! :)!
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
Just out of curiosity, what is the predicted release date for Gingergread on the EVO 4G?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Id like to know that too actually

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[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
Enthusiasts of your product of a technical nature and yet outside the development loop? Yeah, those are the beta testers I'd want. Insiders overlook things -- can't see the forest because the trees are in the way. Regular users lack the technological mindset to recognize a problem at its core and report it.

In my opinion they'd be stupid not to do it this way. And even more stupid if they admitted it!!!

IMO
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
I would like to think this is because the "community" became a little bit wiser, but that might be giving everyone to much credit.

After all, IMO, it seems that most people can now see it was the correct way to go

This is what I was wondering about, watching all this from the outside.

Heck, I have no ties to anyone, and yet even I knew enough to know how to look for new rdf posts.

How anyone could be fired, for posting up a link to that RDf is beyond belief, IMO

Now, for posting up the RDF in the first place, perhaps, but letting the outside world know of it, not a chance.

I saw an article about EE19, would that mean that EE12 has already been updated, and we are one step closer to a release build?
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
The whole rjmjr69 response to it was just BS, he had alterior motives, what those were, who knows; But no one could be fired for a link when its common knowledge now,hell I saw it before it was posted... If Sprint really wanted to track a leak, they would put out mis-info to certain people under the radar, and if that info got out, you narrow it down further before they know the info was bogus... But that just completley dis-credits rjmj69 from here on out; But not everyone will know the full story, or hell anyone. You may or may not see a leaked EE19, I think you won't, not because the source was fired, but because its so close to being released, what would be the point. It would only help if it was finished and they decided to hold off until after the EVO 3d. But I say its sooner then that, maybe around the same time, like a power punch, with more good news...........

Im getting tired of changing this...
[Epic 4G General] Paul627g:
As I mentioned before, I would like to believe this has to be darn close to finished or super close seeing how EE03 was pretty good and EE19 is two builds later now meaning 2 more chances to fix whatever was wrong in EE03.

I really think Sammy/Sprint are on a charge to gain face again after the Froyo mess.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Bingo. This is exactly why end users should be the ones doing acceptance testing. They use the product they way they would use it. Devs typically know too much about how things are supposed to work, so to them, nothing is wrong, but when you get everyday users access, then you find out the bugs no one really thought about.

It's project management 101 IMO. It's not exactly the same as this, but mighty close.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
The Froyo mess is part of it, but with the recent light of the Google security hole with tokens and such, they're in a huge rush to get GB out the door, as GB fixes this issue. Froyo, no matter the version, does not.

I'm not sure what is ultimately driving quicker release dates, but I'm happy about it, whatever it is.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
If that was the case they would be porting 2.3.4, as that is the ONLY version of android that fixes the issue, and even that version doesn't completely fix it. They are porting 2.3.3 which is just as vulnerable as any other version.
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
As has been mentioned before, we wont know what version well get until the official comes out. Other builds were saying it was 2.1 and came out being 2.2.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Thats true, they are lazy when it comes to those rdf pages

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[Epic 4G General] onilink67:
Google did another patch on their server side this week. It is no longer an issue.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
If the EVO 3D is delayed and pushed back, we could see gingerbread officially released on June 6th. However, So far the roadmap is this:

- EVO 3D and Motorola XPRT launches June 5th.

- Something else is happening on June 5th as well...don't know what though.

- June 20th, Epic receives Gingerbread

- Mid Summer to Early Fall; EVO 4G, EVO Shift 4G, Kyocera ECHO, and Transform all receive Gingerbread. (No specific date yet.)
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Point and case is the DJ29.rdf

We know for a fact it was Froyo, but the rdf said 2.1. That is exactly what EE12 saying ED12 was just a typo, not a fake like rjmjr69, qbking, and numerous other ACS member were saying.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
transforms getting gb? hmm..
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Well it got Froyo the same time we did lol
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
troo... but its so slow

well i dont know if its slow... when i had it it was but that was back in november
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Eh, Eclair was extremely slow, froyo made it quicker, then gingerbread should make it usable. It does have an 800MHz processor.
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
I know May 26 Sprint will announce something for Puerto Rico. On the invitation it mentions something like "your VISION will become clear", obvious reference to the new Wimax/3g hybrid towers.
[Epic 4G General] chairface:
are they actually expanding the 4g network?

I hate paying for it and not being able to use it =\
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
Some areas have 4g on, most are still EVDO. Sprint will probably make it official on the 26th. For PR anyways.
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
So what you are saying in that WE (Epic users) will get Gingerbread first before the EVO people? I hope so, so that I can shove it in my friend's face for making fun of my phone for not getting Froyo and saying my phone sucks, to turn it around and say my phone has GB first when his is still on Froyo!
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I don't blame you at all. That ended up being a few hard months at the end with tech savvy friends.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Totally! My manager has the EVO and will not shut up about it...

Speaking of my manager, he did mention something about new 4G sites being announced soon ;).

I know there is a tower in tiny Lake City, FL with 4G turned on.
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
Sprint is testing their 4g towers in 4-5 cities here in PR. More than likely will announce them the 26 along with other cities/ states. Gg Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Thanks for saying that ecooce, that made my day.

Yes, I did want to post the next relevant gb thread, it takes away for the fact that I'm not rooted.

And I dont eat *that* many sammiches...lol

Typed by a man standing on a toilet, eating a bacon sammich.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
This build was pretty complete from what Ive heard...

Edit ::: Just a theory , but one of the devs is a huge fan of Ray W. Johnson of E = 3/ E equals 03 / EE03 (youtube) ,because from what Ive been told,the advancment was made on Thursday EE05,but that build wasnt named ( until now for some reason ;) )...
[Epic 4G General] castro08:
So is the deadline still the 15th of may? is
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Awesome news! I really hope it'll have TW 4.0 or someone better get the porting started.
[Epic 4G General] castro08:
Ha we'll if the ED12 didn't have 4.0 on it, I highly doubt this build would:) ha
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I'd love it, even though I don't know much about TW 4.0. Just wishful thinking. To be honest, I'd see that as a big selling point for future devices for Samsung if they kept it out of these Gingy builds.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXBbiy0Adiw

Here's a tour on what our update SHOULD bring us if we get TW 4.0
[Epic 4G General] castro08:
Yeah same here, don't know much about 4.0

Yeah but you can also say that it would be a big selling point if they DID put 4.0 . That way you know that if you bought a samsung device with 4.0 and they upgraded touchwiz there a good chance that they would upgrade your current phone

But I know that's just wishfull thinking:0
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
Here is another link with lots of pictures.

Looks good.

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Awesome! I just don't like how it goes home everytime you press it. Hopefully you'll be able to go back to your current screen.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
That logic makes sense to me, but if sprints getting a galaxy s II, they will find a way not to include it for us somehow...

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[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Well, so far it's confirmed it's going to be on T-Mobile and AT&T. Most likely will come out on Verizon and Sprint as well.
[Epic 4G General] castro08:
Reallyy? Didn't know that, never search, but that's good to know,:)
[Epic 4G General] caileb:
I wish we had more information ... especially if Sprint will include a keyboard or not :X
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
If the GS II comes to Sprint, we probably won't be seeing a keyboard on a Galaxy S II device unless Samsung decides to make a whole new family.

Personally, I'm okay with losing a keyboard because that way Samsung is focused on ONE flagship device: The GSII. Which means a way bigger dev community (assuming it's on all carriers) and not having to be jealous of other GS phones!
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I like this. The physical keyboard is a must for many, but I couldn't care less. I prefer the touchscreen keyboard, because my epic's keyboard feels flimsy. :o
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Agreed. I had lived with an Ipod Touch for so long anyway. I prefer thinness over a keyboard.

And while I have some of your attention:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13699000#post13699000

Someone answer this please :(
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
More or less, the Sprint version will still be a different phone because of the CDMA vs GSM thing.

I know the International version of the SGS II which they have in the UK out right now is actually compatible with AT&T because of the quad band GSM, so it's not hard for Samsung to update all GSM phones across the board if they kept all GSM phones the same, but with CDMA, that may be a different story.
[Epic 4G General] :
How can we download this file trollolol..?
[Epic 4G General] SINNN:
Hmmmmmmmm. Cant wait. Yummy 4 tummy.
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
Mine is solid.. it might be due to the case though. Love the feel and thickness of the keyboard with the case on.

If there's no real keyboard how do they expect you to text and drive without looking at the phone... just kidding!! I couldn't downgrade to a virtual keyboard, I've had one on my phones/devices since the first RIM pager back in 2001.
[Epic 4G General] Mutiny32:
Sprint still has to support it on their network. They sell the hardware and provide the end-user support for the most part. Google only provides Android updates and maintenance. Samsung/Sprint have to support baseband firmware for WiMax/CDMA if Android ever has changes that require updates for that stuff.
[Epic 4G General] Mutiny32:
Uh...you realize that the only Galaxy S phone in the world that has a physical keyboard is the Epic 4G, right? There was a GSM one for the far-East, but I don't know if it ever saw the light of day.

So don't put it past Samsung to do the exact same thing again with the SGSII.
[Epic 4G General] bender_123:
If I am not mistaken, TouchWiz was a nightmare with the keyboard and was a previous version on Epic than what was released for other GS devices.

I personally hate TW, but, thats where we are...stuck waiting on Sammy to figure out how to glue their crappy interface to our phone.
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
Yaaaay! Man the epic community just went up a **** load practically outa no where. Its soo exciting. New cmw. Kernels and soon kernels. TBA releases of srf and others. news on gingbread.

Its over 9000!!!
[Epic 4G General] bondosho:
I was at Sprint yesterday, and there was a guy returning his Epic for a Nexus S. When the rep asked why he was returning it, the guy said "this will never get gingerbread." The rep just smiled and said "you never know," with a huge :D on his face.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
Hahahaha...consumer knowledge FAIL.
[Epic 4G General] walord:
What? We've had Froyo since November!

Still, I haven't update past DK28 because it actually has everything working. Being busy with school I saw no need to break what's been working. Anyway, it's been about 6months with Froyo. I don't know about you guys but I'm ready for the next big thing.

Hoping to be surprised by Sprint and Samsung in the near future!
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
You should really update to ec05 ... Its a lot better than dk28

And he's talking about official build not leaks.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
I always thought TW was the first piece of sw removed from any custom build?!?! :confused:
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
4.0 is way better than any touchwiz we've had.

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[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
That's what..oh wait you said that nvm
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Ee03 still has touchwiz 3. We wont see 4 until ice cream sandwich, which we will get. The epic well be supported for another year.
[Epic 4G General] :
How do you know this?
[Epic 4G General] p3dr0maz:
Whosdaman, works at Sprint. Not sure in what capacity because I don't remember but I know he has posted that information before.
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
i'm pretty sure you mean ice cream sammich
[Epic 4G General] nubsors:
I won't be using it for another year though. Either I'll be on SGS II or I'll move over to the Evo 3D if the SGS II isn't released on Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] ZekeDev:
Actually, I'm personally working on TW4 ...I know I'm just a nobody that just signed up, but I've been a lurker for years, and I've been working on my own projects. I hope to have it done soon.
[Epic 4G General] deano0714:
Nice man!!
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
Wow. I had a tough enough time believing that we'd get GB, but we're going to get ICS with TW4?!! Holy acronyms Batman. Thanks and I hope it's true!
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I figured we'd get Froyo and that would be it. Now we know we're getting GB w/o question. I'm quite surprised to hear, however, that we'll get Ice Cream as well.

If this were to come from just about anyone else, I'd have you committed, but I've learned to listen to what you say, as it's always been spot-on. Thanks for the info!

I don't suppose you could help the CM7 folk out a bit could you? Help 'em through a little 4G action in there (I live outside Chicago) and once on a fully-functioning CM7, I'll probably keep my Epic until it can't handle anything else, it breaks, or I lose it.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Sadly I don't have enough time to work on android nor the knowledge like dameon has to work on cm7.

And I agree, I won't be using the epic for another year. I'll be picking up the EVO 3D very soon. :) however, it is good to know that the phone will continue to be supported for a year and a half
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
This for me is good since I'm going to have to wait another year for my upgrade
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Also the next MR will fix a problem with the Email and the problem with the lock screen date. i just got an email yesterday about it. And the xoom will be receiving an update too fix the sd very shortly
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Same here. Gotta wait till september of 2012. Perfect timing

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
If that's all... SRF may stay EC05. What a pain in the ass.
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
You have bigger problems currently anyway =P
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Wait a minute, there is an email problem on EC05! I hadnt noticed. Any word on if EE03 is the final build, or i should say how its performed so far through testing? Im glad we have sprint insiders on here lol

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[Epic 4G General] cadams14:
EPIC: last OS GB

I installed the GB Leaky rom. It worked great except for the bugs issues I found. My opinion the EPIC can barley handle 2.3.3 but does handle it. You have less resources available from the get go. So I started to delete all the un-necessary like sprint junk, DLNA, then there was something new. "Download" or DM.apk. I also delete anything else that said download near the apk. That made the phone un-stable, and MARKET very un-stable. From the get go Visual Voicemail was unstable but youmail, or google voice filled the voided. So for a guy like me thats uses his phone for work, exercise, finical, weather/news, email, and google maps/latitude/navigation and being rooted the phone was at max use. I will point out after the workaround for GPS it worked so much better and would recommend that part to anyone. If you use latitude and someone is trying to find you, GPS has no issues after applying the work around. Great IDEA but needs some work and most important somehow needs to free up resources. Tried to do the logcat off the *#9900# but couldn't get the file

I believe this should be the last Android OS for the EPIC. I dont believe the phone is able to handle much more. It was more like the MOMENT at this point, if any of you remember that phone. A dual core processor with more RAM and still a need for apps2sd will be needed on future phones. I really couldn't much difference between 2.2 to 2.3.3 Except for more resources being used from stock. All this coming from a testing point of view, from someone who does IT testing.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
cadams14, don't forget that's bonestock. The Epic kind of sucks bonestock. Also, especially don't forget that ED12 is far from a final build. Remember how much DJ29 sucked? Same thing.
[Epic 4G General] ptfdmedic:
The Epic is just as powerful as the Nexus and more so then the EVO. Gingerbread will run just fine when it's ready. I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) but k0nane's hands are kinda tied with the current leak.Some broken things just can't be fixed here. I would not judge gingerbreads performance off of a leaked build. No offense k0nane. I know you have to work with what you got :)
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
Don't get me started... Epic EC05 doesn't play well with Exchange 2003. Exchange 2003 doesn't allow HTML email on smartphones. Fine. But the Epic leaves the HTML tags in replies. I've nicknamed it <BR><BR> at our company because most email replies are short and the double return shows up just before the signature.

Anyway, I never noticed it as I use Fascinate Email on Midnight ROM. When my users got their official update the problem surfaced... And I got an earful. Like I control that kind of thing.

Our Exchange 2008 servers don't have this problem and neither does any of the usual cloud services, near as I can tell.

I sure hope they publish that MR soon <BR><BR> :mad:
[Epic 4G General] gdbassett:
My personal plan is to stick with the Epic a while. Hardware wise it's pretty much what I need, (including the hardware keyboard). With a honeycomb update (and preferably a move to CM7), I should be set for a while until a truely new generation of chips is available for phones. (I must admit my dream is for microsoft to make Windows 8 a scalable OS so that my main computer is also my phone. USB dock and BOOM: computer.)
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
Huh. My dream is for a large breasted blonde with lots of money to fall hard for me and make me her trophy husband. Good luck with yours. Wish me luck with mine.
[Epic 4G General] jdelano:
I LOL'd !!!
[Epic 4G General] Masterface7:
Becuase he is DaMan
[Epic 4G General] dandrumma:
this is absolutely awesome. i have similar dream but mine is brunette, like the hot chick on modern family, oh good mother of god, yep i'll take her.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
That is it exactly lol. They are fixing the exact problem you just described. HTML will be enabled finally :)

Hell no. GB is far from being finished for Epic. EE03 is just another test build.
[Epic 4G General] cadams14:
Thanks for your response. Always need a developers view from it also. Resource for a better GB build, would you say there will be something coming down the pipe later on?
[Epic 4G General] alus415:
Any word of w.hen the official update will happen? Seems like Netflix works naturally on 2.3 for our phones
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Dern it. Why do you have to be right all the time. The 15th is in 2 days!! I expect my gingerbread in about a months time! Lol like sprint cares.

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[Epic 4G General] bondosho:
I'm not holding my breath for a release any time soon. But I'll predict it'll be ready around June. If this next build is as good and stable as DK28, I'll go ahead and flash it.
[Epic 4G General] pixlz:
Long time troller(need to get my posts up finally). :) Rom's make me happy enough to not need to upgrade to GB too early. but i'm itching for June/July when i think GB will officially hit, cause then ROM's will make me even happier. ;) btw Kudos to ACS and Midnite ROM's. they're are teh awesomesauce.

~le poof~
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
we will never get honeycomb. that is for tablets we get gingerbread and "maybe" Ice Cream Sammich