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[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
To who? These are the posts I hate, baseless. Do you know how many people I get calls from wanting to switch back because the iPhone was slow and sluggish too? Come on now... The iPhone is smooth, thank hardware acceleration for that but there are countless times that the iPhone hangs with the circular loading symbol while opening and closing apps. It's great at being smooth but just as slow at opening/closing apps. And battery life? The Evo has a bigger screen, 4G radio, that alone allow it to have less of a battery life. I'd still pick that over having to carry a wall outlet with me everytime I need a charge.
[EVO 4G General] empiire:
The ONLY thing Apple does better than Android when it comes to phones is the screen. I really like the Retina Display idea and the screen is of pretty high quality itself. But Android is catching up quickly with the Nexus Prime supposedly having a 1280x720 screen... that'll be beautiful. But until then, I respect Apple for their screen quality, and that's all. Android always will be on top. :)
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
lol and your android user experience is bug-free? I've had apps freeze and phone restarting out of nowhere on my evo as well. You talking about bigger battery and screen? Look at the iphone 4 with a higher resolution screen and smaller battery compared to the nexus s and the iphone still gets better battery life. fanboys.......
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Is it really that hard to discuss and not name call? :confused:

I do it all the time.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I give up... You completely missed the point as you're too blind defending Apple when I clearly agreed with you and pointed out why.
[EVO 4G General] Jfree3000:
That's all fine and dandy if you can actually connect to 4g. My 4g experience has been just plain terrible from the launch date of this phone, I am glad they changed the $10 fee from a wimax fee to an unlimited data fee so I wouldn't be quite so pissed.

As far as the i5 goes, whats the specs on it, dual core at least?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I don't think too much is known about it...

http://www.iphone5specs.org/
[EVO 4G General] Jayavarman:
You are not the average consumer. Last month, a third of polled iPhone users believed that their phone had "4G" connectivity.

As for Sprint's sucky 3G, hopefully they are making progress with Network Vision and the decommissioning of iDen spectrum for 3G use (better building penetration).
[EVO 4G General] rockingout92:
People call into tech support all the time complaining because they're only getting 1mbps down w/their iphone4's. makes me laugh. I don't think I'll ever buy an iphone just because it won't do what I want.
[EVO 4G General] decayer177:
We still have 4G ;)
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
So now this thread is going to plummet to whining about Sprint?

:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] Bundles456:
My wife wants it if it comes. I think I'm staying Android tho! IPhones will be EVERYWHERE! No exclusivity for the Apple snobs. Lol
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
Yeah, my wife told me last night at dinner that she'll probably want to switch to the iPhone. I told her to wait until we actually see what the specs look like; you can pretty much bet that it'll have a larger screen, more memory, and the A5 dual-core (I think it's the A5 that's in the iPad 2) processor, along with iOS 5 AE (Android Edition).

She'll get it anyway.
[EVO 4G General] detusueno:
...and why not... those specs are not bad?
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
A larger scren might sway me to try it.

The way I use my phone post tablets isn't how I used it before tablets...I think I could get by. Then again, I don't see a benefit over my evo for how I use it...
[EVO 4G General] anthonyandrews:
I don't think Jailbreaking will help take a Sprint/Verizon iPhone to another US carrier. You would still need to do an ESN repair....I am certain though, but would you have to Jailbreak for that?
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
Not bad, but worth a new phone purchase? Not to me.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Not between CDMA carriers, but the rumor says the new iphone is a world phone. One phone, all carriers.

I assume sprint and verizon will maintain their ESN list as they do now so one shipped to sprint is locked there.
[EVO 4G General] Boltie:
I have never heard of good battery life on any iphone. I also believe this site is a great example of developer support. Maybe not direct but android is a standard shared by many companies and not solely used by one.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Also as far as batt life does the ATT iPhone get better batt life cause hspa uses less power then cdma so is think a cdma iPhone would suck the batt down
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Really? You can't be serious. Read any user or blog review. I get awesome battery life on the iPhone 4.
[EVO 4G General] culua:
I don't mind if iPhone comes to sprint just as long they keep there unlimited data.
[EVO 4G General] slyles:
I would stay with the android based phones which are more customizable and has google on its side with a ken eye on development from all parts of the business (internal or external) and apple doesn't appreciate the outside working on its products.
[EVO 4G General] Nashianei:
You know what the most awesome thing about having options is, you can choose.

Go free will!

I won't get the iPhone because I don't like them. You do, that's cool mate. This whole "war" is completely juvenile. No need to get bent up about it guys, its just a phone. So everyone grow up, realize that its not a argument that can be won. Just buy an Android if you dig em, and buy an iPhone if you dig em. Who cares.
[EVO 4G General] thisismickey:
Well said. I got bored with iPhone and converted to Android and ain't no looking back ever since, but the competition is good for us, the users. Ever since iPhone enter the ring, everyone upped their game and will continue to do so. Long may it continue.
[EVO 4G General] Boltie:
Spot on. There are a lot of emotions shown by people over their chosen device. There is no right or wrong.
[EVO 4G General] AA27:
^BINGO!!!!
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
that's why I'm getting kind of tired with HTC...they need to step up their game and they are slow with it. They're just too busy shoveling different products to different carriers with mostly the same specs.
[EVO 4G General] Callie_evo:
exactly. I'm sticking to my android but I have a feeling like everyone else spring will get rid of their unlimited data. if they do that guess i will be out of a phone.
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
I doubt Sprint will get rid of their unlimited plan anytime soon. That's their main incentive for going or staying with Sprint. Being the number 3 carrier, they need that unlimited plan and low prices to stay competitive.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Yea but on the flip side this is exactly why every other month there are apps that have to be removed from the Android market for malware.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
So...are you saying you would prefer if HTC focused on one model, and did a better job than being all over the place? That business model would never work in cellular communications :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Can't tell if being sarcastic or not.... It works for asshole wtf I mean apple same phone same **** diff radios maybe...
[EVO 4G General] thereefour777:
I remember when people looked down on Sprint. now people are switching over due to all the features other companies have put limits.
[EVO 4G General] detusueno:
iphone 3gs to iphone 4:

1. doubled the resolution to a industry leading 960x540, still not surpassed.

2. moved up to a much faster A8 CPU and doubled the GPU power.

3. doubled the RAM.

4. changed the design.

5. added gyroscope.

6. added FFC.

yup, they never change the phone. /s
[EVO 4G General] detusueno:
considering that sprint is still hardly gaining any post paid customers i doubt that. sprint also has the slowest network, not much incentive there.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
But they still focus on basically one phone HTC could do that if they wanted
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
IOS is a niche market.

Android caters to all tastes.

That's why the rumors of different sized iPhones have been aplenty.

Even Apple realizes that they can't continue to compete with just one product in a market where different people want different things.

Its a kind of double edged sword (for both platforms) because on one hand there are benefits of the same phone for all. (Such as for developers with apps and easier implementation of full hardware acceleration)

But on the other hand you have limitations because you only have one choice.

iPhones screen is just way too small for me.

Some people like keyboards.

Etc.
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
well not in that sense...I mean like one model and release it on all 3 carriers with the same specs and just upgrade it yearly instead of having so many different variations. Sure each phone differs to different markets, but it just makes it harder for developers to develop for. Different android versions here, different hardware there...it just makes it bleh... I would like HTC have one device with no keyboard, one device with keyboard.. all same specs and across 3 carriers and upgrade them yearly. That's just me, but I'm pretty sure people would think otherwise. It would help with the fragmentation of different hardware and different software.
[EVO 4G General] justin11141:
IPhone 3g to 3gs

1. Compass

2. 800mhz processor

3. An added S to the name ...

Sweet!
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Better camera more ram
[EVO 4G General] westicle:
Why don't you have an iphone? You are in the evo forum always defending them, so.....maybe you need to go get yourself one, (it really is a nice phone) and leave the bashers alone in their home forum.

Hell, I came to sprint from att and the iphone, but I wanted to try android, and honestly I cant imagine having a smaller phone. However I would be very tempted if there were to be a 4.5 inch screen released on an iphone, even if it were only for the apps, which are light years ahead of android.
[EVO 4G General] Kal*El:
Screw the "icontrol Phone"

I will NEVER go back to apple. Their over priced, products just piss me off everytime i see that look from Steve Jobs.. Im glad that punk is stepping down and I hope the company goes down hill from there..

Apple releases the same product and everyone runs to it like its the newest thing..

iphone 2g.. upgrade oh wait iphone 3g.. oh wait iphone 3gs (lets give it video) even the lowest of low phones have video. How does this company take 3 phones to do that and on top of that its not that great? oh wait iphone 4.. oh wait soon to be iphone 5. and then the large Ipad

and on top of that the lawsuits for patent rights for companies using the word "app" last time i checked that word is a general word which is short for "application"

Ohh wait lets file another lawsuit for touchscreen right.. Must I remind all you apple jock riders that Palm had touchscreen WAY before apple was a seed in the phone industry. But i guess they forgot about that.

Oh wait lets stop Android bc they are sellling more iphones and they provide "flash" on their devices.. so we come out with Ipad 2... It took jailbreaking to do normal things on a phone. What is that about?

Shall I continue. Android is where its at. Android lets you do YOU. The open source.. thats all i need to say. OPEN app Store.

I will never go to apple again. $3k macbooks... $800 ipads is just insane.

All of you who are Apple hanes riders then go over to another forum but dont come in here wearing your fruit on your shoulder bc I'll go droid on you.

LOL
[EVO 4G General] jake200:
I am sticking to my rooted android. No Iphone for me.
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
Cool story bro.

You do know Apple products are considered premium and targets a niche market right? People may hate on Apple, but their quality control on their products are a lot better than the majority of android phones. Look at how many complaints you get from HTC Evo light leakage, cracked power button, and etc. I've never experienced it on my evo, but when the evo was released it was a cry-fest.

and go droid on me please or in other words:

COME AT ME BRO
[EVO 4G General] JYoung23:
Evo or die...just wanted to add my two cents
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I have both.

ATT iPhone 4 (+N1, Atrix)

Sprint NS4G (+EVO 4G)
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I would actually say that iOS is the mainstream market and Android is the one that covers several niche markets.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
http://www.google.com/search?source=dict-chrome-ex&defl=en&hl=en&q=niche&tbo=1&tbs=dfn:1

It caters to just one side of the market.

One choice for phone, one choice for tablet.

[Albeit with updated internals]

No keyboard option, no bigger screen option, no slider option of any kind, etc.
[EVO 4G General] westicle:
Honestly my only problem with the iphone is itunes; its a god damn abomination. However the accelerated hardware and lack of fragmentation make it definitely worth a look.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
It has fragmentation.

Older iPhone's can't get the newest OTAs.

If I remember reading correctly, the iPhone 4 won't be getting IOS 5. [Don't quote me]

Albeit the fragmentation isn't as bad because the setup of IOS vs Android is completely different.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The keyword here is specialized.

I think large screens, keyboards, etc. fit into the definition of specialized markets. We'll be arguing back and forth but most people would agree with me in saying that Apple makes mass consumer products.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I didn't say they don't make 'mass consumer products', I simply said that the iPhone and iPad are 'niche'.

Especially comparative to Android which covers all colors of the rainbow.

2.5" - 6" phones

Keyboards, sliders, flippers [side kick, g1], candy bars, slabs.

Versus the 3.5" iPhone.

Wide range of tablets as big as 10.1" and as small as some slabs.

Versus the 9.7" iPad.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Matty fails to understand the word niche. I'm not here to fill the holes in your education so good luck with that.
[EVO 4G General] jeff-co:
Ditto. While I think their products are nice and usable for some people, I prefer to be free to explore the potential of my devices and not be tied into Apple's expensive, closed system.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I think you fail to read the definition of things and make assumptions on meanings based on other people's incorrect usage.

I quoted the definition.

As usual, you're hear to argue, not discuss.

Have a good day with your Nexus S.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I read the definition, in fact, I referenced it. The fact that you failed to even see that demonstrates your lack of comprehension. Any body who calls the iPhone or iPad niche products (within their respective smartphone and tablet markets) is delusional or lost.

Its the competition, like Android, that take the basic slab form factor and then add specialized components (large displays, 3d displays, keyboards, etc) or aim at specific specialized markets (like ultra low end) that are niche.