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[Xoom General] e.mote:
>But those are the micro A cables... they will not fit into Xoom, will they?

Form factor difference between micro-A & micro-B:

If Xoom supports OTG, its plug receptacle should be the micro-AB variety, i.e. it should accept both A & B connectors.

If Xoom only accepts the beveled connector of micro-B type, then it's not in-spec with respect to OTG. That said, there are cables/adapters labeled as OTG and yet have the beveled connector of the micro-B type. You just have to pay attention to the actual connector. It's all a bit hit-or-miss, since USB host on mobile devices is still rare, and implementations are somewhat ad hoc despite specs availability.

>will getting a female to female work for the OTG purpose?

Can't use micro-B cable (per your pic) if Xoom is to be host device. Get correct micro-A cable for your needs.

The adapter you linked to is a simple size converter; it doesn't allow OTG capability. What you're talking about is more like these,

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774 (micro OTG)

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mini-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-2-pack-50944 (mini OTG)

Note: These haven't been verified to work, unlike the previously-linked Nokia OTG cable, which has been confirmed as OTG capable. Also, as you said, these can damage the port with an inadvertent bump.

Different devices need different connectors. Flash keys & USB HDDs need the USB-A female connector (for the other end). Digicams & cellphones require mini-USB male or micro-B USB male.

Ideally, you'd get three different OTG cables, each with micro-A on one end and micro/mini/regular connector on the other end. Practically, you can't find micro-A to mini-B types (at least from a cursory search), and will have to settle for one cable + two adapters to fit all three USB sizes.

Lastly, note that the host device (Xoom) needs to provide sufficient power, if slave device isn't self-powered. In many cases with micro-USB, there isn't enough power, even if said slave device is a flash key or card reader. As above, it's hit-or-miss.

As obvious, confusion factor is high for all this micro/mini/A/B/male/female beeswax. I suspect this will be resolved once tablets become more common, and the simplest way to resolve it is to use full-sized USB ports. When you think about it, the micro- form factor is a holdover from the smartphone, as there's no rationale for it to be on tablets. Ironically, cheap shenzhen tabs for now are most likely to sport full USB ports.

In short, buy whatever cable you need for the Xoom. But for your next tablet (if you care about USB connectivity), buy one with full-sized USB ports. It will save a lot of headache.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
Hmm, previous reply is a little confusing. To simplify,

There are 3 instances when you want to use Xoom in host mode:

1. Connect to USB flash key, (self-powered) USB HDD - Get one of these below

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/genuine-nokia-ca-157-micro-usb-otg-to-usb-data-cable-14cm-length-51045

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?mpart=ZX40-A-5S-75-STDAJ

-or-

search eBay for USB OTG http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=usb+otg

2. Connect to USB periph w/ mini-USB port: Get cable in #1, plus a mini-USB male to USB-A male adapter,

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-male-to-mini-usb-male-adapter-32709

3. Connect to a USB periph w/ micro-USB port: Get cable in #1, plus a micro-B USB male to USB-A male adapter,

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-to-micro-usb-adapter-58818

To provide external power-assist for un-powered devices, get a Y-cable,

http://www.amazon.com/Male-Power-Sync-Cable-Drives/dp/B002ZUV9IK/
[Xoom General] SnakeManJayd:
The Xoom only takes Micro USB B, as far as I know.

You can see so by looking at the shape of the port:

I think if you got a Micro B to female normal A you wouldn't need all those other cables, as they would already come with the normal A male to what ever male they required and the host connection would be the right way.

Do I have that right?

Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
>I think if you got a Micro B to female normal A you wouldn't need all those other cables, as they would already come with the normal A male

You can't use a normal micro-B cable, as it doesn't have OTG (pin 5 not grounded). The USB-A connector at the other end is irrelevant.

Given the Xoom can't take a micro-A connector, you'd have to find an OTG cable that uses the micro-B shell. I'd avoid using an adapter for reasons already mentioned. Since this has come up in this forum before, I'm sure solutions have already been found.

Via http://www.google.com/search?q=xoom+usb+otg+cable+site:xda-developers.com

and via http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11997885

comes the apparent solution,

http://cgi.ebay.com/Micro-USB-Host-Cable-Nokia-N810-OTG-go-N-810-/250817547531

looks like the Nokia N810 OTG cable has the beveled micro-B connector. Credit goes to the OPs.
[Xoom General] SnakeManJayd:
Awesome, thanks.

I bought that one from ebay that you suggested. It looks like the right one, in the picture it has a micro B male.

And they will even ship it here, for free. I'm amazed.

Will post results here. Thanks so much for your help.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
Suggest also this cable if you're planning to hook up USB HDDs or digicams w/ mini-USB port. The Y-cable allows external power assist.

http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-2-0-Mini-5-Pin-Male-Data-Power-PC-HDD-Y-Cable-/130498137552
[Xoom General] RadDudeTommy:
I'm confused.....

Will this fork for connecting a keyboard with my xoom when I get the update?

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/genuine-nokia-ca-157-micro-usb-otg-to-usb-data-cable-14cm-length-51045

And if not please please link me to one, as I have been looking forever but keep finding ****.

The eBay link you sent i can't see because I'm on my xoom and it just loads mobile.
[Xoom General] RadDudeTommy:
Work... not fork
[Xoom General] SnakeManJayd:
No that won't work because that has a Micro A male and the Xoom only takes Micro B.

The ebay one is the one that works:

To view non-mobile, type in about:debug in the address bar and hit enter, it will look like nothing happened, then go to menu>settings>debug>UAString and change it from Android to Desktop. Then reopen the ebay link. It will reset to mobile every FC or when you restart your Xoom. But each time after you just need to type about:debug, it will remember the UAString setting.

But this is also a link to the same type of cable:

Meritline

Although they seem to be out of stock at the moment.

Hope this helps.
[Xoom General] RadDudeTommy:
Tanks a lot
[Xoom General] Isun:
I too connected my camera to the Xoom and it was recognized right away. I just wish it transferred the files automatically instead of manually. Anyway, I posted this link in another thread but in case it was missed, this is the Ebay seller I got my OTG cable from and it works for me:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Micro-USB-Host-...=260760886893&ps=63&clkid=9130826876118408283
[Xoom General] niematunikogo:
Thanks for pointing to this cable! So now I ordered 2 even here in Poland ;) we dont have much of "OTG" "Y" etc available ... at least they are hard to find.

Now I'm thinking on powering it.

I know we can use Y cable and powered usb hub.

But I'd like to have mobile solution.

I was thinking to pay someone (I dont have any tools and knowledge:P) to modify the nokia cable.

What do you think of buying a battery pack, that can output 5V / 500mA (I thing this is usb standard?) and connect it somehow directly to the nokia cable?

XOOM does not power the usb cable/ right? to there are 2 wires that should supply power, but they dont? What if we could just plug the power into them?

This is just an idea and I dont even know which wires to plug into:P

If anyone of You know what I'm talking about please comment on this... Thanks!
[Xoom General] SnakeManJayd:
That one won't fit into the Xoom.

You are going to have to try file the Micro A to fit into the Micro B port, as one of the other members of the forum has done, or get another cable.

Your cable end:

Micro USB A

The Xoom Micro B Port:

The difference between the 2:

Sorry man
[Xoom General] e.mote:
@niematunikogo

As pointed out, the "correct" OTG cable for the Xoom is in post #11, rather than the one linked in the earlier post. Use a needle file to bevel the two corners if you don't want to buy another one.

Get a USB power pack. A search on eBay or Amazon should provide plenty of choices. Be careful of the cheap ones, as most of them have low build quality, and the amperage cap tends to be exaggerated. Read the user reviews.

http://s.dealextreme.com/search/usb+battery+pack.html?PageSize=100

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?&_nkw=usb+battery+pack

That said, you can experiment when it's only a few bucks. Try this one, which takes 4xAA's. Useful when on the road.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/aa-battery-usb-emergency-backup-power-and-charger-pack-15048
[Xoom General] vidriera:
Awesome, just ordered this. Thanks!
[Xoom General] rjoudrey:
Just ordered these for $2.20:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774
[Xoom General] niematunikogo:
ooo...kkk...

luckily it wasnt to expensive.

Anyway, does anyone know of other "nokia" or whatever otg cable that will fit?

Its hard to check all "nokia xxxx" numbers, and i think it will be easier for me to look for some "original" cable than "noname" one.

edit: ok, now I see someone pointed to nokia N810
[Xoom General] niematunikogo:
but how can I connect it to power external device?

I would like to have solution that:

joins OTG cable and at the same time battery pack, so I could power the device that needs power and connect it to the XOOM...

Maybe I'm wrong, but e.g. usb webcams need more powet that XOOM can provide? Or is it not neccessary?
[Xoom General] sleeplessninja:
Xoom should provide the 5V of power when in host mode with OTG

Also the official Motorola OTG Cord is on Amazon.
[Xoom General] that1techguy:
were could I find the directory for my USB flash drive that's plugged into my otg cable?

Never mind it looks like you can't use a flash drive with the otg cable yet on 3.1 it may be only for rooted people and I'm keeping mine stock going to test camera and Xbox controller tomorrow.
[Xoom General] niematunikogo:
perfect!

probably my assumption came from the fact that N1 does not..

hmm.. quite expensive.. and still not available in my country ;/

ps. OK, I just found out that dealextreme ships worldwide so I've ordered:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774

hope it will work... now I just need to wait up to 14 days:/

ps2. so i've also bought http://cgi.ebay.pl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=250817547531&Category=123422 ... funny thing.. I payed for this cable with free shipment from hong kong as much as i would pay in Poland only for shipment.. interesting.
[Xoom General] double1:
Helpful to charge my phone from my xoom.
[Xoom General] T33H00:
hello! Can someone tell me if the usb otg from Dealextreme work for you?
[Xoom General] LLegoLLaS:
Just bought Nokia CA-157 but doesn't work with my One S because it's Micro A (square). But i found a pretty nice one for a dollar.I even connected my Nokia E63 as usb storage and works like a charm, copying at really high speeds.

Also wired/wireless mouses/keyboards working

Fun fact: if i connect my keyboard (sidewinder x6) even the volume knob and media keys work

ps: sorry for topic reviving,haven;t notice the date
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baller1:
RoyalGinger 2.0 with the latest kernal...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCS05DC:
Take a look at the FAQ posted in the ginger OP
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrew53517:
I asked coolbho3k (the developer of setcpu) about possibly working on an overclocking kernel for our transformers via twitter.

His reply to me was this: "It should just work with the Xoom patches, I think."

So are we able to make some overclocking kernels then based off the XOOM kernels?

(Also, reason for posting in development is because the overclocking thread in general is getting overshadowed by other threads and I'm trying to help move development along, thanks for understanding) :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crimton:
i don't know the answer to your question but i would like a kernel that works with setcpu as well so i can underclock and set screen off profiles to help my battery life.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freeflysage:
The patches for the Xoom to my knowledge are for stingray boards and ours is ventana. I haven't dug into the code released yet to know if they included the patches for our board, but a kernel is being tested for stability atm afaik.

/sm
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seshmaru:
I'm pretty sure the transformer is NOT Ventana. FYI.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] graffixnyc:
If you are rooted set cpu will work, you just cant overclock, but you can underclock and set up a screen off profile.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
running dmesg (i was trying to find lcd mfg) and i saw ventana in a few places. i can't recall each, though.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] case0:
Thanks I didn't realise you could still underclock :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vadimus_ca:
It definitely is. Viewsonic gtablet is harmony.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funnycreature:
Yeah, I did that and I noticed a significant improve in battery life! Hooray for SetCPU. Now waiting for the overclock kernel.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssj4vegita2002:
So you have actually gotten a setcpu profile to undervolt during screen-off? I'll have to install setcup again and try.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tenny:
.

Every tablet with honeycomb from the factory is Ventana.

The only tablet that is in the middle space ( that I am aware of at least) is the Notion Ink Adam.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SlimDan22:
/system/lib/hw/
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funnycreature:
Not sure if it undervolts (I have no clue how it works) but I set the minimum to 216MHz and the max to 1000MHz. According to the statistics, using the ondemand or interactive governor, it keeps ~90% at minimum clock speed. I don't use it for hours on end (unfortunately).
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrew53517:
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/17/upd...hz/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

This is what we need! 1.6 Ghz would be awesome on our Transformer! :D
[Samsung Mesmerize] ShadowCassik:
Has anyone else encountered an issue where their phone was wiped after disabling lagfix? I just disabled it to flash a newer version of heinz 57 and my phone data got wiped, something that has never happened before. I am also now missing my market place app and several other essentials to my phone.
[Samsung Mesmerize] akellar:
First I've ever heard of it.
[Samsung Mesmerize] ShadowCassik:
Okay, some digging brought up some interesting results. My apps are still on my phone but are not accessible and they show up as a com.xxxx (Sub xxx for app name). Market place is not accessible so I cannot redownload titanium backup to restore my phone. I cannot push Titanium through the web based Market place as it already shows installed on my phone. I think I may have to factory default my phone and start over again.
[Samsung Mesmerize] akellar:
That may be the easiest, fastest way to fix whatever jacked up your phone. Just odin back to stock ec10 and go from there again.
[Samsung Mesmerize] add144:
This is why we make nandroid backups kids.
[Samsung Mesmerize] Wyman881:
This might be a dumb question, but is a nandroid backup the same thing as a backup from recovery?

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Samsung Mesmerize] akellar:
Yes same thing.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] amarpatel:
I know this feature exists with CM, but is there any way to get it with other Roms?

I'm currently running GR-10, would love the ability to swtich tracks with the volume buttons...it'd be hella helpful while driving.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ninjuh:
Yeah I listen to music on my cappy all the time & that was one of my favorite features of cm7. Makes me miss my iPhone lol
[Captivate Themes and Apps] grkmaster:
Seriously this is the feature i wish I had. When I had jailbroken it and gotten the app installed to be able to do this i was so happy! power button became play/pause.. didnt know this was a CM7 feature!
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Vivified:
PlayerPro has this feature. Not sure if poweramp does, testing it currently
[Captivate Themes and Apps] grkmaster:
Yes playerpro does but the issue was that it would turn the screen on if you tried and then yuo have to long press again .. I would like to do it with the screen off, saving more battery life since the screen isnt being turned on :-)
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Vivified:
I just use a headset with an inline mic button that I can press(play/pause), double-press(next track), tripple-press(prev track)
[Captivate Themes and Apps] grkmaster:
Dont have that option in the car on my dock! I wish I can use my steering wheel buttons to switch tracks. Now that would be sweet
[Captivate Themes and Apps] rp88:
This post should be helpful http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=659664
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gattaca714:
I remember back in January I flashed via USB Flasher using MGLR1.11

How do I know which ROMS allow me to flash using the USB Flasher option? Any special wording to look for?

NAND

Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] casemandan:
There arent that many roms u can flash via usb

the ones that u can have the word DAF

Clockwork is way superior to daf lets up do back ups very easily like a native android phone
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] borisdrezgic:
For me, flashig it via CWM is peace of cake. Easiest than flashing pure MAGDLR. Just there are way more better roms via CWM than classic usb flasher. Try stock desire from cotulla, but with app2sd support.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yrrab:
Look at BOYPPC SHIFTPDA he allways has DAF install and CWR on his links i personaly use the DAF install on all the Roms i have used and never had a problem [good ROMs]
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Zwiebel86:
but his daf versions dont support a2sd...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gorealmighty:
I'm rooted, how do I undervolt? Is there an app available?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tylerjd:
SEARCH XDA AND GOOGLE. There are prolly a dozen threads on CPU clocking for your phone. (I'm assuming you mean underclocking, right?)

Sent from my screaming Atrix *4G* using the XDA App
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bearsfan85:
download a oc/uv kernel then install voltage control from the marker, I suggest eugenes dead horse kernel but that's just me.

btw Q&A
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anthonys2r:
Underclock is NOT undervolt

and to the OP, please post in the right section
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reuthermonkey:
You can start by posting in the correct forum. Q&A... General...

Yeah, that would be a good start.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oka1:
Yes post in Q & A next time please.

There are many apps on the market that will do this. Under-volting is just lowering the voltage to the cpu. The voltage standard setting is set based on the voltage that will work best for all manufactured cpus in a unit. Most of these chips are "low-bid" so the Q/C is not that accurate, so they set the voltage a little higher to make sure they always perform. Most of the tech savvy people know they can lower that setting....... and do so to lower temp and add to battery life.

Underclocking is something else entirely That is the cycle clock speed......... 2 different animals.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 啊喔鹅咦呜鱼:
tigersblood will compatible with voltage control app
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nerozehl:
I've been using HandCent for about two weeks now and I really like the App. I have just discovered this whole "HandCent Services" thingy they are trying to sell me. I want to be able to have a backup of all my SMS texts at all times and be able to have them on my phone after a clean wipe (kinda like how Google syncs contacts). Or at least have it on my SD so that when I restore my backup from TiB it will be there.

So I'm asking ya'll's opinion: are the HandCent services worth the $9.99 they want a year? Does anyone use them?

Any insight would be appreciated.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jaxidian:
If you don't want the headaches of trying to use TI Backup to do this (I most certainly wouldn't), then I'd say it's worth the $10/yr. I mean, seriously, what's $10/yr for this?

The only thing to be aware of: the restore process can take a while. It is most certainly not the most optimized process. Let it run overnight and you should be good, though.

(Disclaimer: I don't personally use these services but have researched this a bit. Ultimately, I really don't care about keeping SMS/MMS across wipes.)

EDIT:

These services used to be something like $7/month. That was ridiculous and most certainly NOT worth it.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oohPandaBear:
Don't pay for crap. Also, I like Go SMS better. Fast and simple.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orion421:
sms backup and restore, free in the market.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jaxidian:
Does Go SMS allow him to backup and restore his SMS/MMS messages from one phone (Motoblur) to another (Sense)? Handcent Services does. If you can't provide him with an alternative, then how can you claim it's crap? It certainly provides a valuable service. If it's worth $10 or not is the question. I wouldn't call paying a good dev for valuable services paying "for crap". :-/
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DontCome2MyHouse:
How do I disable the stock Thunderbolt messaging service so I don't send texts twice?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orion421:
No need to disable the stock app, the text will just get sent once.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DontCome2MyHouse:
Will I get double notifications?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orion421:
Yes, you have to open the stock app and disable the notifications there under settings.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jesushasadroid:
Does anyone know how to get trackball wake to work on 2.3.4 stock rooted gingerbread?

Also how do you change colors for your trackball for different apps..

Love Gingerbread 2.3.4. stock rooted with su...very clean,, stable and smooth
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] y2k1ltd:
Trackball awake isn't possible and trackball alert is with the app from the market.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hwithv:
I rooted my Motorola Milestone with Super One Click, then installed ROM Manager. I did flash CockworkMod recoveries but I could not do the backup or installation of new Custom ROM. The phone always was back to the screen with the yellow exclamation inside the white triangle. If I use VOlume + Up button, it will appear the recoeveries with four options: reboot system, wipe data/factory reset, apply update.zip and wipre card partition with the info: E:cannot open cach/recoveries/command. I did try to apply updated.zip but it failed and say that it cannot verify the signature and installation aborted.

Could you please help? Thanks

Phone: Milestone rooted with android 2.2

Root: by Super Once Click

ROM manager: newest version
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] skadude66:
Dude, ROM Manager does NOT work on Milestone. You need to flash a Vulnerable Recovery using RSD Lite, install Androidiani Open Recovery, go from there:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=983516