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[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vimto25:
If we all had the same taste then it be a sad life to live,you will stick to ya guns and say android is the best and apple fans will stick to there guns its life end of the day, none are perfect as for windows lol there not on planet earth lol in
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paranoid2007:
Competition is good for business. Let's hope, Apple and Google continue their head to head race. Apple has always been strong with innovations.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dainesefreak:
I completely agree with you. As someone who works in IT I don't see how any self respecting IT professional can buy Apple products and follow Job's megalomenical view of the world.

Don't get me wrong, I think Apple are a great marketing company and the iPhone is probably a nice device for the average consumer. The thing I dislike is the world according to Jobs. Don't try to tell me that you invented something all because you can market it well, Facetime anyone? And don't try to tell me everyone else is wrong and yours is only the right way. When I buy a product I want to feel like I own it, not that I'm owned by some leader of an iCult.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momagic:
lol, this is jokes
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattism78:
Troll much?

I think there is definitely a niche for Apple devices. My wife for example. She is technologically inept. It seems that no matter what device she touches she breaks it. She has an iP4 and loves it. No matter what she does, she can hit one button and get back to the home screen. She can go on facebook, and play her bubblegum games with it. Personally I love the phone for that. Hell, my father can barely turn his computer on (without screwing something up) and he can navigate on an i-device.

Personally, I can't wait to get a SG2. I love to tinker and what better platform than Android to do so. However, I'm not going to go on a devoted site and start bashing the device that the site supports. I guess different people like more attention than others. YMMV.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stoolzo:
none of us android users should be too quick to rubbish i-devices, apple has helped to push the mobile platform forward, more so than windows / android up until now as they have always been playing catchup. Sure apple were late comers to the party but closed platform or not the kit is good.

I say this after owning several winmo / Android devices and a happy owner of an IPAD 1 which is just as beautiful as the SGS2.

less we also forget Samsung are being sued for copying some apple stuff :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tameracingdriver:
As an iphone 4 owner I can think of one thing the iphone 4 does better than SGS2: The battery lasts 2 days rather 2 hours :D
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Funkym0nkey:
iPhones are as bad as worst HTC juice eaters when it comes to battery.

Ever since its first incarnation, iPhone never had great battery life.

If you are heavy data / voice user, it will murder the battery as bad as HTC EVO or Desire HD. And its true even for iPhone 4.

Dont think that iPod and iPad trend of great battery has been carried over to iPhone. The radio hardware of all phones are battery eaters. iPhone is no exception. Its barely enough to last 1 day with moderate use. Heavy users need to carry their chargers with them. When I had iPhone 4 for short 7 days, I needed to plug it into car while driving back home or it used to die on me before I reached home. Its only if you have very limited voice and data use, you can expect battery to easily last 1-2 days. Otherwise it simply cant. Not on WCDMA band for sure. (I am heavy mobile data user, I use more 30-40Mbs a day at times )

The entire debate is never ending. The problem is Android users hate the very core of the Apple ecosystem. This is double edge sward for Apple as well. As successful as this has been in developed nations, the system has failed measurably in developing nations. BB and Android are the leading devices replacing aging symbians now.

To each his own. I stopped arguing with apple users long time back. As bad as XDA can be at times, mac communities are worse. Even if there is reasonable, logical and fair discussion going on there, if its even remotely related to Android or anti Apple products, you will be called a troll.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kawa636r:
I has got all the iphone until iphone 4 that its too expensive and doesn't have the "new thing". It's only.marketing questions for apple.

I love so much windows phone, but in Italy we have only 8gb phones not expandible. The only with 16 it's the LG optimus 7 but battery sucks. android it's in the middle for me, because a lot of "simple" things are not present and became very difficultous.

But i love Samsung galaxy 2, and i'm waiting to a miui Rom to be the best ...
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tameracingdriver:
Nobody can seriously argue that the iphone 4 has poor battery life if they have ever actually owned one. For a smartphone, their battery life is impressive - but so it should be - it has an OS designed expressly for its hardware, has a smaller screen and can do a lot less than an android phone.

I usually got 2 days of reasonable use out of my iphone. My Incredible S which has the best battery life of an Android phone so far, generally gets 1 day. The Galaxy S2 got 1 day heavy use until recently, but now gets about 3-6 hours depending on the mood its in.

If it wasn't for that issue, then no comparison.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intruda119:
Quote from the macforums:

"A big part of it for me is the phone subsidy model. Apple releases a phone roughly at the point that I am eligible for an upgrade. As a result, I continuously have the top handset for the platform. This means every app is running on my phone at it's peak potential.

Due to the pace at which Android handsets are released, they appear to 'age' faster. As manufactures move on to a new model, the prior version languishes with late updates, largely forgotten. I see Android users looking longingly at the latest hot handset just months after they bought a top of the line phone.

I just don't see myself being satisfied with a given model Android phone after 6 months, let along a year."

This is the realist statement of them all. As much as we hate the word "fragmentation" best describes android. Its the same as the WinMo 6.5 days where companies didnt have to make updates. Hopefully Android/Google come up with some strict guidelines soon. This doesnt effect most xda users, but makes me feel bad about casual users.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmd512:
Apple sues everyone, and they've won none of their major suits (HTC, Samsung, list goes on).

They probably spend about as much money on litigation scare tactics as marketing.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fysi:
My favourite quote: 'Galaxy S II (and any current android phone) won't ever get a video streaming Netflix app. Netflix has said they will only allow it on very specific Android phones in the future with a specific DRM hardware processor.'

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient&feature=search_result says hi :P
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Funkym0nkey:
Its not a poor battery life, but typical battery life of a smartphone.

There are 2 things that kill the battery. Talktime and GPS.

iPhone 4 made huge advances compared to 3GS,but its battery life is great as long as your talktime is limited.

You game, you listen to music, browse, all fine as long as your talk time is less than an hour during the day.

But if its close to or more than 2 hours, it lasts just 1 day. Specially on WCDMA 2100Mhz band as lot of us faced this issue here.(ultrasn0w, sbsettings might be the reason for this, but we really had no option here as iPhone 4 is still not officially launched here)

Its same with every damn smart phone. 3GS was disaster for heavy users. DHD is another disaster. SGS and Nexus S and iPhone 4 are 3 phones released last year that actually are usable for 1 day with heavy use. (I dont carry wireless data card so my phone doubles up as wifi hotspot for my laptop when I am in no wifi zone ).

As far as SGS2 is concerned, its lasting 1 day here without GPS use. If you are facing 3 hour battery life, you need to start analyzing your battery usage as frankly I cant kill it completely while watching a damn 3 hour long bollywood drama.

The only smartphone that actually lasted me 2 days was N8, but the damn thing is too horrible and boring to use (symbian :mad:) to even carry it as my second phone.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sticks02:
Samsung manufacture the iPhone 4's A4 processor. :p

It's Apple just throwing around their weight again.

Entertaining read, cheers for the link.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fransarj:
Google just announced that every android smartphone to be released from here onwards is required to have an update for the next 18months.

source

http://www.gsmarena.com/events_roun...okia_and_microsoft_later_in_may-news-2629.php
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] computermilk:
I've owned the first iPhone 2g, the 3g, the 3gs.

Then the Droid 1, then Nexus one, then the iPhone 4.

also have an iPad 1, and an iPad 2 64 gig ATT.

I now have a T Mobile G2x, and ordered a Galaxy S II from Expansys.

I am NOT a zombie and I STILL after all of it recognize iOS as the superior OS. Why is this? the WHOLE Experience wins, Apps, movies, tv shows the list goes on. the WHOLE Experience is STILL better.

Android is catching up, but it's not there yet.

Now go ahead and call me a mindless zombie
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bilboa1:
zombie!

at this stage i wouldnt say one or the other is superior, they're just different. None of which is perfect or even good enough in my eyes as both are lacking in different various areas.

But as of today, a SGS2 is a lot more entertaining than the IP4, let alone powerful etc. Mostly thanks to the hardware.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vulpix:
See, you are one of those who can still see what's wrong and what's not in both systems. I used an iPhone 4 before and the most annoying thing for me is the bloody notification system, and how the push system works like a trainwreck. Using whatsapp on both Android and iOS was like a day and night difference. What I do not like from the link provided by the thread starter was that 90% of the responses were all mindless bashing which made no sense at all. Whatever happened to respecting other people's decision?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] computermilk:
I completely agree,

at this point being in this "hobby" as i like to call it of following gadgets and electronics and such i've seen a lot worse though then that thread.. believe me I've seen some pretty animalistic things being said especially towards me.

I've got several peeves with iOS, but most of them I was able to remedy with Jailbreaking (I also love the Jailbreaking environment a lot more then Android's Rom'ing and rooting) it's a lot easier and all of my purchases are actually SAVED in the Cydia marketplace (just one comparison I like)

I am switching over to the G2x though and NOW the SGS 2 because of the hardware. (I'm mostly a gamer) and I love Dungeon defenders.

I learned how well Dungeon defenders runs on a Dual core from the iPad 2.. i fell in love with it. and the iPhone 4 at the moment doesn't run it as well as the iPad 2 not even close.. the A5 chip is a straight BEAST..

So that's why i got the G2x.. which plays dungeon defenders VERY WELL.. however I will say this.. the phone itself is a WRECK.. it's a complete nightmare.. Random reboots.. horrible battery life..I can't wait to get my SGS2!!!!

I've been watching all these SGS2 videos and reading the comments and I'm sweating over here waiting for Expansys to ship mine =D

*keep in mind* I'm mostly likely switching back to an iPhone 5 if they put a Dual core A5 chip or A6 chip inside of it. (it's all about the Apps for me and games)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arthur Hucksake:
I'm inbetween.

My iPhone 4 got smashed in a drunken folly, also ended up with 20 stitches in my leg and lost 2 pints of blood.

Aswell as giving up booze, I switched to a Galaxy S II today and very happy so far.

I loved the iPhone 4, but after awhile something became apparent. All of the apps I bought, games I wasted money on etc I hardly ever played. The phone pretty much sat on the side, used twitter and was used basically as a phone.

That swayed me. I no longer care about apps, but what I now have is a superior "phone" and camera.

My previous phone to that iP4 was a Desire got on release, something never felt quite "right" about it and I was always switching out roms.

Out of the box, the GSII has hit the perfect sweetspot between function and use... AND NO MORE FECKING iTUNES!!

I hate iTunes more than Hitler.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] computermilk:
Hilarious post... especially the drunk part. =D

Honestly though.. I'm IN LOVE with iTunes.. because that's where I get all of my TV from.. I don't pay for cable at all and I get all of my TV episodes and subscriptions from there, also my movies.. it's cheaper this way buying tv shows "A La carte"
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Little Dragon:
This and the above made me lol irl :D
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hazard99:
This thread is funny . I like that it hasnt been a total flame fest. What bugs me about apple products is that if you get everyone thinking with a certain mindset everyone else will follow. When i first got the original iphone I got it because I saw a few people with em. It honestly felt cool to have one until everyone started to get them. No I am seeing 80 yr old men rocking them which tells me they are super easy to use.

That makes it heaps better to a larger crowd. I mean think about it like this. Driving a stick is a lot more fun to certain people but most of the world drives automatics. I today cant play with an iphone more than a few seconds without getting fustrated. I find the ui to be clunky to me but thats just my take on it.

The reason why I love the sgs2 and my sgs2 is because it feels right to me. Ive watched all the videos I could and I find very minimal lag from the device even with widgets on the home screen.

Which I have to ask, how come people see the iphone 4 as faster when it just displaying icons on the home screen? Android devices have to render widgets and live wallpaper and what not and still manage to keep up. I am completely sure that when hardware acceleration comes in play it will be even smoother.

For now I will stay with android because I have a choice of devices. looks coolors and sizes. I dont wanna see a world dominated by apple devices!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vulpix:
I still have to thank Apple for forcing EVERYONE in the industry to step up their game and stop giving us terrible phones with little functionality. Before the iPhone, let's admit it, the industry was plagued by terrible "smart" phones which were a nightmare to use, and apps were scarce. Let's not even get into the topic of how Symbian developers had to make an app for the different screen sizes, which were not acceptable. And Windows Mobile? Let's not even go there as well, with their shabby 6.5, and their useless marketplace.

Thanks to the introduction of the iOS, companies were forced to make something good, and it also led to the birth of Android. I believe Windows Phone 7 would not even be released in 2011 if not for Apple's very aggressive push into the phone market.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NIK516:
I wanted to do a muilti post but dont know how :( dam lol

Well i still got my ip4 and i got my gs2.

I got to say, that post was a troll for one.

and lastly not every one makes there mind up based on marketing or consumer direction, i moved to android because i wanted 1080p video recording but now that i have it i miss the touch to focus that i had on my ip4.

So you cant say that the gs2 is better then ip4 because not everyone thinks its true.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulser_g2:
Hmmm... I'm sure touch to focus is something that can be obtained with a new or modified camera app...

I don't own any iThings, but I have played with them enough to know that the UI is not for me. I need my menu button, and my back button, but I can do anything faster than a iP user could... even using my hero. Send an SMS? I have a choice of around 5 ways to do it. I can open messages app and pick a message to reply to. I could hit new message. I could hit them in contacts and create SMS, I could have a homescreen shortcut to prepare blank SMS to this person...

It is like the iP being a phone for one person's tastes, but useless for anything else. You can make android how you personally like it :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] murklor:
There are about as many raving Android fans as there are iOS fans, so its really quite balanced.

In a thread I made on another forum about getting the S2 or waiting for the next iPhone, I said that the S2 best the iPhone 4 in everything except the resolution and app store category, but the iPhone 5 will with 99% likelyhood have the same CPU/GPU combo as iPad 2 (after all Apple is known to seriously boost performance each iPhone iteration) and thus beat the snot out of the Galaxy S2 performance wise, according to what glbenchmark show.

The response I got was... Less than pretty. Its a simple statement, yet people started to go raving mad over Androids superiority.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImperialX:
Errm...the iPad 2 uses Apple's A5 chip. It's a 1GHz ARM-v9. It's not as good as the SGS2's 1.2GHz ARM-v9. Also, the SGS2 has 1GB RAM. The iPad 2 only has 512MB. The iPhone 5 may well match the SGS2, but I have a hard time seeing it beat the snot out of it unless Apple does something radically different in the iPhone 5 compared to the iPad 2.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rouvax:
This is what i tought ,

Do not under estimate iphone and ios.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] murklor:
So what you are saying is... Apple is completely unable to compete with current phones and up frequency to 1.2ghz from 1ghz (I mean its not like Samsung ever could did that with their CPU!) and double the ram to 1gb? Look at glbenchmarks... With 512mb ram at 1gz and greater resolution, the iPad 2 matches the S2 at glbenchmark. It win some, it loose some (S2 seems way superior at shaders, while the pad has triple triangle performance), but the point remains - if Apple improves iPhone 5 ever so slightly over the iPad 2, its gonna win.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stitch!:
I agree with you a little.. I had an Nokia N95 before the first Iphone and for me the Iphone came nowhere near it. To be honest, the camera on that thing was a ****ing beast, it was fast and had a better music player than the ipods/iphones/cowons from that time. Nokia made some poor decisions, but know that they have a ****load of technology in their pocket. Eg. the SGS2 has NFC (at least some of them) Nokia has had this tech for almost 10 years now.

I thank apple for showing the smartphone world in some direction, they are a big influencer, but not the biggest. They stole a lot of tech from nokia, and sony and marketed nicely. I tried all the iphones, even had an Iphone 4 for a while, but it doesnt work for me. The most fun I had was the first week I jailbreaked it (basically the first week I had it)

Lets get one thing straight. I don't hate apple. But I generally dislike the users, a lot of them are single minded and ignorant when it comes to their devices.

Like a Dutch philosopher once said: "In regione caecorum rex est luscus." (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)

They think they have everything, but they don't know what their missing. Ofcourse for some of them that's ok, because they are not very tech-savvy. But the once who are might be missing out on stuff they don't even know about.

Peace (to both android, windows and apple users haha) ;)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImperialX:
The problem is - are they going to? The iPhone 4 was actually not as powerful as the iPad 1. It was running an underclocked 855MHz A4. Let's not forget that the original Galaxy S beat the iPhone 4 in benchmarks too. The iPhone 4 turned out to feel more fluid because of the better software though.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleepycat3:
Going from an old Nokia 6510 to a Nokia 6120 classic (just as limited) to an iPad and then to the SGSII, I have to say that the iPad experience was excellent in the little details. Things like swiping anywhere else to close a folder instead of having to press on the close button, pressing the black bar on the top to scroll up to the top of the browser window, make the experience seem surreal. However, it is very limited when trying to do the traditional tasks that I have been doing on a windows laptop. The apps are great but when I want to use a file explorer, suddenly it felt like the device was holding me in a jail cell.

Then I got my SGSII this week and it was amazing. I could do whatever I wanted and I finally had the damn notepad back to edit any text, setting or config file as I liked. I then realised the little things that were missing from Android that I took for granted on IOS. Then I had the issues of apps running in the background even when I wanted them closed, thus sapping away the battery. Then I realised why IOS was the restrictive beast it was.

Being the tinkerer, I do enjoy Android and love my SGSII. I love being able to decide what services to allow running in the background and what others to stop just to eek out that extra hour of battery life. I know that I don't need to do that with an IOS device because it is fine as is, but I would feel shattered that I wouldn't be allowed to poke and prod to my heart's content.

I used to dislike IOS devices until I got the iPad, because there was nothing else in the market back then other than the clunky windows tablet PCs. Then when I had the iPad, I loved everything about it except for the fact that it couldn't play flash. Had to remote desktop back to the PC to then play a flash video. But overall, the experience was good. However, after using Froyo on the Galaxy Tab (the missus has one) and Honeycomb on the Acer A500 (in-law has one), I realised that for a tablet-sized device, I'd probably still end up going for an iPad.

Now that I'm using an Android phone, I can't imagine going for an iPhone. I'm even converting others at work by showing what the SGSII can do.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vulpix:
Sorry but why do you and others not trust Android to handle the apps in the background? And how do you know they are sapping away battery if the CPU foreground states shows it's not consuming anything? I think you need to throw away the concept of Windows Mobile management and just enjoy Android as it is. I have like 8-9 apps running in background, and my phone's battery life is still fantastic. Running Facebook and checking it every hour probably consumes more battery life than 8 idling background apps over 8 hours.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayoubi:
pretty gay you can’t compare iphone 4 to SGII. obviously the SGII is genna be better then the iphone 4. You need to compare the iphone 5 to the SGII. I like android better, i have the Samsung Galaxy s Captivate. but seriously.....
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueScreenJunky:
+1

If anything, the fact that even android fanboys compare the SGS2 with the almost 1 year old iPhone 4 shows how good the iPhone 4 was.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaxxiB:
troll more, my SGS2 had a day and a half out of the box after it's first full charge with boarderline moderate / heavy use I might add. After i've finished downloading my apps i've gotten past the 2 day charge cycle.