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[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
No not offended.

Everybody knows that gingerbread memory management is screwed up and fiddling with minfree levels alone ain't fixing anything.

AKMO alone does nothing to fix memory management it doesn't even tell you what apps are where.

One set of settings on one rom has a totally different effect on another rom.

The groupings in CM6 and froyo mod are nothing like CM7 and Cronos.

So those settings would make froyo roms dog slow but are kind of aggressive in CM7 and Cronos and of course do nothing to make the launcher more responsive in both cases.

The only way to know what kind of effect minfree levels would have is if you know where the apps are.

And the only way to be certain of where they are is to tell android where to put them.

Which is why the SuperCharger script works on all roms the same way... it puts apps in their place so that the OS will run in a predetermined and predictable fashion and therefore the lowmemorykiller settings will have the exact effect that the user expects.

So no, I'm not offended.

But kind of annoyed that I spent quite a number of weeks perfecting it and somebody who knows this is fiddling around with AKMO settings while they really truly can have a phone with fixed memory management.

btw, if you check the memory groupings with AMM, you will see that AKMO is annoyingly in memory way too often. Which is ridiculous.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] pcphobic:
Ah yes, now your tone of voice is much better... more professional and more matured as compared to when u said wrote b4.

Thank you for clearing this up.

Hope to see you back in Cronos forum as I recalled how much u were impressed with Cronos Ginger.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Babis_ECE:
Best Battery -> Official 2.1-update1. Simple as that.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
I check it out time to time.

Cronos is good and feeyo is cool but lack of updates, v1.2 had issues plus I needed to test other roms.

Btw the memory managent on cm7 and cronos mimics my strategy from v5 anyway - which was to give the laubcher its own OOM grouping/slot but everything else is just weirdly placed far down the list so still not as good as v5.

Tthen V6 simply out does v5 hands down.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
zepplinrox, does your supercharged thing help battery? and will it still allow for services to happen?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
I don't think it directly reduce battery use but you may feel like you don't need to overclock as much so you can save that way.

Also, it may help in that it gets stuff done faster so that there is less waiting and the display is used less.

Since it directy controls OOM grouping and priorities and tells android's lowmemorykiller what to do, it's now a controlled environment... so it makes multitasking much better :)

Try Balanced 1 or Multitasking scripts and see ;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
i dont reaally understand the script manger one.

did the AMM get loads of RAM now thanks!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
I gotta make it an app somehow :/
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
haa yeah you should would be awesome then
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] dcarr622:
Guys, how is CM6 in terms of battery? How would you say it compares to official Froyo?

CM7 remains too ram-hungry (although I havent updated in a while) and I need decent performance, so it seems Froyo is the choice for now.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
cm6 is okay, official has far better battery life. I would use FroyoMod if you want customization with a good battery life
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zamana:
I've been using several ROMs in the past months, always with a bad battery life experience.

After reading another thread about JuiceDefender (the first app that I bought on april/2010), I decided to remove it, and, guess what? After 07:40 of use without charging, I still have 70% of battery. That's never happened before.

My conclusion is that apps that turn on and off communications lead to more battery draining.

Currently I have only Toggle 2G installed with automatic 3G switching.

By the way, I'm using IceAndFire.

Thanks.

Regards.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
I always use juicedefender....
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] neato4u:
Is the app out yet? :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
There is no app....
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] neato4u:
Well I'm downloading HONO7 now.. all tweaked and good to go eh? I'll write a review (if i'm not lazy) once I had it.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
Nice I prefer ice and fire to hono, I feel it has better battery life and performance
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
ive tried every rom possible .. the best battery is cronos ginger 1.3.0 hands down
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
Has no cm customize so I prefer 1.1 or 1.2
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] choudu1:
Really. Cronos? When I used it the battery drained 80% overnight.

And what's g.o.t 2.2.1 like. Is it any good gaming and battery wise
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
got 2.2.1 is good .. but luks very sedate n boring ..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
Got suckssss
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] neato4u:
Well mcdevtingz , whatever ROMs that you're using, HONO7 is a 'HONO!' to me.. battery drain was extremely fast with HSDPA turned on. Wanted to try cronos but choudu1 said got may be better.. so I'm checkin out got now :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] skadude66:
Best Froyo ROM for battery life: FroyoMOD 2.8.0, 14 hours later I still had 59% left.

Best GB ROM: iceandfire, gave me about 13 hours and 20% remaining.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
Ha I used hono and it died so quickly man
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] andray:
skadude66, miui gb rom has better battery life than froyomod. imo.

About two days if not used intensively. Maybe that's because i have less programs installed.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] skadude66:
I used MIUI up until 5.13 release. I always keep wifi and 3G on, and found that battery life was poor, albeit the pretty UI.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] andray:
hm, strange. I use it _since_ 5.6 with miui launcher and, now, with launcherpro (which i had on froyomod).

Maybe miui eats more battery with wifi than froyomod, cause i used to keep it switched off on all firmwares
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
MIUI is has some goood features, and a pretty good battery life but I hate the launcher and the ui.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] neidlinger:
http://music.google.com/about/

the beta is live.

This is huge for me. And it'll help alot of people bypass work WebSense filters...:cool:
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] el_smurfo:
I found the Google Music app in the Market, but it looks just like the leaked Honeycomb music app, i.e. no streaming. I signed up for an invite...maybe that activates the cloud music features?
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] neidlinger:
and they do movies ! ! ! ! ah ! ! ! !! ! ! ! Dude this totally ROCKS.....Well for my 16mth old she can get her movie on while i'm trying to enjoy dinner somewhere...
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] Don_Perrignon:
Oh shiz, requested an invite.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] syntropic:
I have that app. Did yours just suddenly work with the beta site, or did you get a formal invite?
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] neidlinger:
Well what is odd is i've had that app for a while. and when i went to the site it said i had requested a beta invite. i never formally did.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] sabo2000:
Requested mine! Wooohoooo!
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] crhylove:
I requested mine too. Why the need for the invitations? Why not just release it? I hate the invitation system. So lame.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] mrpanic7:
any1 have any idea as to how long the invite process takes?
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] neidlinger:
It could hours, days, weeks, months. I remember when i signed up for a google voice invite it took 3 months.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] unclespoon:
Google Music app keeps fc'ing on me! Any suggestions/thoughts? I'm running the virtuous fusion sense 3.0 rom from evil D
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] captrobb:
I'm on the same setup and mine fc's too.

My Google Voice Invitation took 11 months!!
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] sabo2000:
I think it is with the Sense 3.0 I was running it and it was force closing on me to, switched to CM 7.0.3 and it works fine!
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] syntropic:
Hey I have a question....

I'm using the beta music app--specifically, version 3.0.336 or something like that. About a month ago, a leaked google music app was posted, and I thought that was the version I have running now.

The only thing that is strange (and this could be user error), is that the leaked app from a month ago had a feature which allowed you to scan through your collection in a way that was obviously a direct copy of Apple's "cover flow"in iTunes (scrolling 3D album covers).

But for the life of me, I can't seem to figure out how to get that library view. Does anyone remember this, or am I high? And if I'm high, I must be smoking too much because I am sure of this. I even posted a scteenshot of it somewhere in the Q&A section.

But seriously, could someone explain how I navigate to this view?

Thanks,

syntropic
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] castuis:
I think that was 1 of the features Apple sued Google over and no your not tripping it was in the leaked release :P
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] okroby:
Requested invite - not sure how long it will take

Thanks
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] twe3ky:
Well, sent in my request. Hope it begins soon. Thanks for the heads up.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] sbabaz:
It does this on a tablet but not on my phone.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] carrrnuttt:
That view only comes up in landscape mode, and when you select "recent." And no, it ISN'T a "direct copy" of Cover Flow by any means. I've worked with cover flow type interfaces as a web developer, and it's not even close.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] syntropic:
Sorry... Functionally equivalent to the point where differences are rendered negligible.

But as an android/Google fan, I'll assume Apple took the idea from an unreleased prototype of Flipboard or something.

And thanks for letting me know I wasn't imagining this. I still have to try it.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] MisfitsTimmy:
This is like Audiogalaxy. Why use this over Audiogalaxy? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm really asking.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] jamieross:
dammit only US users :(
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] djalecazam:
signed up for this about a week ago..

still waiting for invite ):
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] neidlinger:
Got my Invite in the middle of the night. Log'd in this morning uploaded my music and away we go. I must say it is AMAZINGLY nice.

This just may kill me carrying an iPod Touch for my music needs.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] Scoop24:
Just got my invite. Won't be able to try it till later though.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] neidlinger:
Just a fair warning, i know it can be different from place to place, when i uploaded my song it absorbed all of my bandwidth. You can adjust the settings via the Download Manager but man it killed mine.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] Scoop24:
Thanks for the info. Good to know.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] neidlinger:
yea i went from ~8.00Mbps down to about ~.75Mbps download when i was uploading the music.

But like i said you can adjust the bandwidth it uses, the amount of songs per hour/day/week.

The way i look at it now.

Android phone : 200.00

Set of EarCandy head phones : 20.00

Google Music : Free

All my my music everywhere and not needing my iPod for music.... priceless.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] allchannels99:
I signed up
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] Scoop24:
This service is really nice.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] cmdalhoefer:
I really wish they would allow rooted phone. They practically ask us to root them with releases of Nexus and then say oh but you can not do ... this or that.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] seittit:
Using it on my rooted ThunderBolt, sorry to hear you're having issues.

This is how apps are supposed to be made, excellent UI
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] Scoop24:
It working for me on eVIL Virtuous Rom.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] cfaulkner:
Had to wipe my phone...

... to get the settings option to show up. Now it works great and I get the side benefit of clearing out all of the apps that I was not using :)
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] PBGunFighta:
Signed up forever ago...still nothing -.-' disappointed :[
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] Scoop24:
I like the fact that as soon I drop new music into my music folder it automatically gets uploaded to my Google music cloud.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] thepza:
I signed up as they announced it live at Google IO. Took about 2 weeks or so to get the invite.

Loving it...even though it's only loaded 1/10 of my music in 2 days.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] beezie916:
I signed up the day it went live and I have still not gotten my invite....good grief....
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] agentaaron:
Me either, I get about 100 emails a day, yet nothing from Google...very frustrating that I jump for my phone everytime it goes off.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] GazaIan:
Me too :(

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[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] th1rt3en:
same here.. pain in the ass, why dont we have invites yet???
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] ESKIMOn00b:
I got my invite in about 24 hours... Then again i have applied for (and received) EVERY Google beta invite since gmail first came out.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] philliman:
Got my invite yesterday after waiting about a week n a ½
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] speoples20:
I just got mine today. :D Uploading music as we speak.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] G1-evolve:
Got 5 invites. Yesssss :D
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] Joker Fuel:
Just got my invite after a looking wait. Play with it all day tomorrow.. see i can wreck my cap for the fitrst time
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] carrrnuttt:
It's nice to have access to my 3500+ songs anywhere without having to eat up a ton of SD space. :)
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] GazaIan:
Got mine too :D no Ubuntu support though -_-
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] lilchip85:
Can't wait. I stopped listening to music on my phone because I have no space for it. I hate choosing certain songs to put on my sd.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] CBConsultation:
Still in the process of uploading. I have 94GB worth [10,000+ songs] so it'll take a while but I love the service. Running fine on CM7.0.3
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] neidlinger:
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-google-music-manager-ubuntu-made-easy
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] srivers33:
Anyone else have half their library doubled on their phone? So annoying.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] CBConsultation:
Um, the point is to get your music off your sd card and into the cloud. Then you won't have duplicates.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] raycaster3:
I got the invite a couple days ago!!! Awesome! Now I have it on my nook and my phone! as for doubles...I got a few in the download process to the cloud, but I'm cool with it since they house so much music for you! My friends with iphones wish they could get a hold of ios5 for the cloud music but I believe apple is only giving up 5 gigs for free. HAHAHA we get up to 20,000 songs are you kidding me?!?!?!? sick!
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] wauterboi:
Right now, I have 11.57 gigs. When I finish getting all my music (after I find it) I'll have 30 gigs of music.

I WILL DREAD THE DAYS OF UPLOAD TOMFOOLERY.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] kitsunisan:
Just got my invite a few minutes ago, only took 24 hours. :D

I wonder how long it will be a free service, I read on the sign up page that it's free "for a limited time.".
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] neidlinger:
I've heard a couple of rumors.

1) it'll be approx 32.00 per year after the beta expires.

2) it will be approx 32.00 per year for everyone not involved with the beta. If you were in the beta it'll be free.

3) it will be free for "google power users" [ people who were in the Beta, use Google Voice and Google Docs, and have Android devices ]. And everyone will have "stair step" fee depending on the amount of data that you want/use.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] GazaIan:
I just hope it's free, or at least discounted. I freaking love this. I can store thousands of songs, and still have a tonload of SD Card space. Or even on my iPod touch or iPad (yes, I said it) I can save a ****ton of space with it and use the remaining room for .. everything else.
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] spyderman33:
i got the invite but not really feeling the service... If you dont have internet access, you have no music... it'll work most of the time but if I hot the backroads, I go to 2G and the service sucks ass...

If I am flying, no music... Not really sure what the point of the service is... Maybe I need to give it a chance..
[myTouch 4G Themes and Apps] neidlinger:
you can cache music for off line tunes. Or you might want to look into a paid version of Slacker. They do the same.
[Nexus S General] siiooo:
Hey guys so I just got the nexus s from sprint and I am trying to send an sms as 2 messages when it goes over 160 characters and it stops. on my epic I was using hancent so I got it again on this phone but now when I send a message thats 2 pages through handcent it send numbers and symbols. Anyone know what I can do to solve this?
[Nexus S General] siiooo:
Ok so I actually solved my own problem but for anyone that would like to know there is a setting in handcent that you have to tell it to split the message then it works fine.
[Nexus S General] shabbypenguin:
thats an issue due to cdma not to the phone but yea most 3rd party sms clients split it for you
[Nexus S General] Quis89:
What do you mean? There are many CDMA devices that allow split SMS messages. Do you mean the CDMA Nexus S?

I'd like to know why this is as well and if there is a fix or if we just have to use a third party SMS option.
[Nexus S General] shabbypenguin:
CDMA itself doesnt allow for it, the devices that support it merely break it up for you. i am not sure if the stock android messaging.apk will let you do it but i know others will. i personally like go sms
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ScottyNuttz:
I grabbed the official new Music app announced at Google I/o today, but it force closes when I try to open it :( I'm running Continuum 5.4.1, and I was wondering if people running other Roms had better luck.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] grkmaster:
Same thing happens to me on same rom
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AJerman:
Same thing on a different ROM. (GR-11)
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ScottyNuttz:
Does anyone here even use 2.2 anymore? If you do, could you see if it works?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Devo7v:
I'm running it on Firefly 3.0 and it works fine. I don't have an invite yet, so I can't test the cloud features, but the local music plays fine.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] SkitchBeatz:
bummer. I wonder if its a JVB issue and if it works on JVH or not
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ScottyNuttz:
I wonder if it has to do with the previously installed "Music" app. Continuum has what appears to be Samsung's official app.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] drwx:
continuum 5.4 and above are JVH
[Captivate Themes and Apps] grkmaster:
Continuum 5.4 is JVH based and it doesnt work
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Copronymous:
App works fine on my Cognition 4.4 Cappy.

Don't have my beta invite to test yet.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] morehush:
Just tried uninstalling the music app that came with Continuum 5.4.1 and the new music app still FCs.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ScottyNuttz:
Did you reinstall the new music app after uninstalling the old one?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] morehush:
No, but I'll give that a shot.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] morehush:
After uninstalling/reinstalling the new music app with the old one already uninstalled, I still get an FC.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] grkmaster:
Even in the android apps and games section of the forum , galaxy s users with GB are reporting FC as well..
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Mattix724:
Are you talking about the honeycomb music player? In ZIO development we were testing a few different music players for our first rom and we got it to work but no cloud... what I remember doing to get it to work was copying stock music and pasting to SD then renaming honeycomb music to match stock name, moved to /system/app and changing permissions to 0644 or rw r r for the noobs, reboot and enjoy!
[Captivate Themes and Apps] grkmaster:
http://www.androidcentral.com/music-beta-video-posted-google-no-cables-needed

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.music&feature=search_result
[Captivate Themes and Apps] john300800:
Works on Perception 9.5.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ScottyNuttz:
Damn... well if my invite goes through before this gets fixed, I might just have to go back to 2.2 :(
[Captivate Themes and Apps] emuneee:
Installed from the Android Market and working fine on Serendipity 6.4 (Android 2.2.1). I even have the stock Music app still installed.

I haven't been invited to the music beta yet however.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] jcr81:
Surely they will update the app to be compatible with gingerbread being that the Nexus S is their flagship phone at the moment.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] dolph8886:
Works with cm-7-05092011-NIGHTLY
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Dr Triffid:
Running it on Serendipity, and it plays everything that was already on the phone. Of the two albums I added this evening, it refuses to play about one-third of the songs with a message to the extent of "trouble playing this song." The tracks play fine with the regular music and Amazon players.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ScottyNuttz:
Oh, sure: they slap a 'beta' label on it and now we can't get pissed when it doesn't work?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] smeltn:
works great on latest MIUI
[Captivate Themes and Apps] antonyvijai:
It works great on my continuum version 4!

from Continuum V4 on matted blue theme using XDA premium app
[Captivate Themes and Apps] chuzzy:
I think I can norrow down the problem. My logcat points to some kind of mismatch in the database:

DatabaseUtils( 232): android.database.sqlite.SQLiteException: no such column: album_artist , while compiling: SELECT _id, album, artist, composer, date_added, duration, mime_type, _size, title, track, year, album, id, album_artist FROM audio WHERE ((is_music=1 OR is_podcast=1) AND (date_added >=? OR date_modified >=? )) ORDER BY date_added

Anyway, I will try modifying the database and add the column. Ill get back if this works or not.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ScottyNuttz:
So the album_artist column needs to be inserted into the database... interesting. I wonder why it exists in froyo builds but not GB.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] deepdeep34:
Force closes on GR11 with talon kernal as well
[Captivate Themes and Apps] garringm:
Well I did this and still no go, would it be possible for someone to pull the database from a working build, maybe then we can compare and see if this is the case. There will be 2 .db files if you pull it one for internal and one for external sd cards. These would be extremly helpful. I am just wondering if its a lib file instead
[Captivate Themes and Apps] mdelac01:
I see the db issue in my logcat, but I see another issue in the logcat before the db issue:

E/AndroidRuntime( 1569): FATAL EXCEPTION: main

E/AndroidRuntime( 1569): java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: com.android.music.IMediaPlaybackService.getMediaList

Do you also see this in your logcat?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] mdelac01:
I just took a logcat of another device where the Google Music app works...

I see the same database error that I see on the logcat from the non-working device. I guess the DB error is not it.

The real issue should be this getMediaList method that is not found!

Any one else see the same issue??
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Mauijpm:
Just tested on Mosaic II and it thinks for a while and then force closes.