yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] J.K Nilsson:
I managed to create the file and using LV but how do I determine if it works?

J.K Nilsson
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
It doesn't, I checked.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
This update will restore saner values to the low memory killer and restore multitasking.

For FlyKernel it will also config the scheduler with the same parameters as LV as they seem to work better for this ROM.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] riemervdzee:
I guess I probably need that module structure we talked about yesterday?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
I don't really know of any scenario where I personally prefer compcache. The post about it above was just a quick bandage which didn't really work for me (after some usage of the phone MMS would still get killed). The tweaking (or more precisely "untweaking") of the lower memory killer values is the correct solution for this.

About why it does not work on LV, I am helping Riemer investigate this....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nightm:
Unfortunately, flashing this two at once slowed the ROM noticeably. I don't know if flashing 2 updates at one does matter at all (maybe just kernel made it slower) but just wanted to let you know.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] f_padia:
is this ROM suitable for daily use then?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] minty1978:
for me, it is ok. I dont use BT anyway.

I'd like Wireless Tether, but I can survive without.

edit: can connect my laptop to wireless tether, but get no internet access on the laptop.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Read the instructions, it slows down the ROM because it enables background processes to run. The previous version, was fast only because it killed all background processes....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] perdita2000:
Using special flykernel wild... slows down everything...

For me Sense in general is what makes everything slower than any GB rom... We haven't sense's flash lite working?¿?, so I think this rom is for sense fans only...

The only thing we haven't on any Hero GB rom (even on foryo roms) is flash so ....

I will like to use Ventura's on any other rom better...

Perdita2000
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
I'll just hint that I am fully aware of what my signature is, and if any Sense ROM will stay on my device in the long it will be that one.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] f_padia:
thanks, Are you getting many fc's? or any other instabilities? I dont need BT either and not fussed about wifi tether either. Just wondering whether I should bother upgrading from ele's 2.1 ROM.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] petsasj:
I haven't flashed the kernel "update" and i don't intend to after seeing what others say about the performance drop.

Just wanted to let you know what i did and have no problem with SMS'es at least. I downloaded an application called Swapper 2 from the market, created a swap file in my SDcard (which is class 6) and all is a bit better. I also deleted MMS.apk and installed Go SMS Pro (selected the option of this app that's taking charge for every MMS/SMS - its under important settings?). All is good so far

If someone wants to try this out as well, let me know so i can post a more detailed description of what i did, since this is typing on the fly.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] miko1990:
can you upload a previous version of kernel with background apps killing?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] perdita2000:
Do you think that sense versus anything else (CM for me) worth a try (I know that it's a cool challenge but...)?. I haven't tried your HeroLatte (i'm sorry.. but I have to use the phone camera...for kids...) but I'm sure that is faster than GB-sense. I will have a try on HeroLatte to have a qualify opinion..

Many Thanks Erasmux for All Your Work on HERO!!

Perdita2000
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
It really isn't mature yet (hence its version 0.5). I think it may have potential if I put into it some works (weeks at least).
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] perdita2000:
We will be waiting those updates, sure it will be the best froyo-sense rom ever :)

Perdita2000
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Try this:

Open any page on browser (even google). Go Home. Go back to browser. Page reloads, it already killed the browser. I am amazed we didn't notice this earlier. I know it is very hard to accept our hero is a slow device (hardwarewise), but having no multitasking is not a solution for me and I will not support this.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] swatsbiz:
Is the multitasking problem with GB, Sense or just that we run out of memory?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Folti:
After flashing kernel update, phone slowed down noticeably. But after some warm up time, 20 minutes or so, performance improved and doesn't differ that much form before update.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] petsasj:
I am using Opera Mini (which i LOVE btw - it's so fast) and the page doesn't reload, even after going to other apps. I understand that most apps get killed instantly, but i am kinda used as i always used Autokiller in the Ultimate Setting. I know that's not the purpose of Android, but in a crowling piece of hardware like ours you either choose Speed (some of it) vs Multitasking and i seem to tend to the Speed side. It's a personal choice.

I think ill use this ROM until i get fed up with the heavyweight Sense apps and switch back to vanilla again - it's our only way of "survival".
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] perdita2000:
We have a 3 years old device running latest versions of a fully supported OS on latest devices... We are lucky that android is opensource and we can get the best of latest roms, but in fact if we want to run GB with Sense we will have to buy a (at least..) 1GHz new phone.

I love hero... And I have seen many manufactures securing their phones so we can not even touch them... We haven't got many chooses ?¿?¿

I will stay on hero for some time I really thing that we don't need 1GHz on our phone to play angry birds... Don't follow big companies's game.. "planned obsolescence".

Perdita2000
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] f_padia:
I completely agree. I noticed this over aggressive task killing behaviour of GB immediately and even suggested to Feeyo to reduce the aggressiveness in his ROM. I believe he did in the end because its such a pain.

Is it purely the minfree levels that need changing? or does it require some tweaking in the ROM itself to reduce the aggressiveness?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] miko1990:
@erasmux can you upload kernel with process killing?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] minty1978:
I love the slate theme in this rom. Can't download additional ones, but slate is awesome.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] snailydale:
Flashed 0.99 yesterday morning then flashed 1.0 yesterday evening so today will be the first day of full use. Battery life seems to be holding up nicely. I have had the missing text messages but they appear in the program even if the notification doesn't show. I can live with that for such a nice ROM.

This may be a long shot, but is there any chance of getting the live wallpapers ported from the Wildfire? I love the bubble one but as far as I know it doesn't work on the hero.

So thank you for this ROM, so far it's been brilliant.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tomekk_nt:
There's one annoying thing for me I mentioned before: unchecking shutter sound in camera app doesn't turn it off. Is there a way to fix thix (or other way to turn it off)?

Edit: And sometimes I get random reboot :/
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nikitosina:
Add please Russian language.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
that's what I was asking about several pages about (Before 1.0 came out)...

thanks for pointing this out. I think people maybe havne't spent much time actually installing apps or widgets on this rom yet.

I'm not trying to sound negative - I'm very impressed with what I'm reading about this rom! But I really don't think the hero has enough physical runtime memory to run gingerbread roms which seem to eat up our small amount of memory.

To me that would be a huge issue since I run lots of apps and customize things a lot. For others that wouldnt' necessarily be a big problem. But the launcher reload issue is a nuisance.

Hopefully some way to prevent sense from quitting or a trick is found to free up enough runtime memory that apps can multitask.

cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Grindboy:
I'm getting plenty of speed out of the new kernel using TaskKiller to autokill apps when the screen is off. So when I'm doing a task I have lovely multi-tasking goodness and when I'm finished I switch the screen off and the processes get killed so that my phone is nice and responsive next time I pick it up.

(Note: auto kill doesn't work until after you've opened the task killer app if you're using quick boot, otherwise it works automatically)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
sweet! this means I can forget what I just posted LoL

nice work - I hope it works as well as you hope!

edit - - never mind then, I just read your post Erasmux saying "I don't know why we didn't notice this sooner" about the low memory killer preventing multitasking in the rom.

So I guess my worries in the post a few days ago were correct after all. That's too bad - I was hoping I was wrong.

That's why I keep reverting to floyo :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] sjknight413:
dkelly, i think you misunderstood all that.

erasmux realised that things are being killed early then created a new flykernel to flash to fix this issue. believe me, it definitely does fix it! i keep double checking and my browser has been in the background since that patch was released without being killed off. this rom is incredible, just flash it and find out for yourself!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] silentless:
Nice work)

smooth ui)

but can you add russian language in next update?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Regarding other languages, I have started working on porting the WWE version but am having some trouble there.

I have no idea which languages are included in the WWE version. I know Hebrew (my native tongue) is not. I do not plan to do any "manual" addition of languages (I really don't have the time for this), but if someone else does this and shares his work I will merge it into this ROM.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] fahad123:
heyy.. does this mean the update of this rom i.e 1.0 will keep the apps running in background? should i flash this now? anyone plz test it!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tomekk_nt:
Yes, it does. But it slows ROM a bit.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] miko1990:
i found very annoying bug,

apps just disappear;/ i can install it from market, and after some time app disappear from phone and my apps in market;/ sorry for that but i must say it because it's piss me of;/ . I try to remove a ext partition and then try to install all apps and post info about effects here
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cokey77:
how long does this take to flash the phone has yellow bar at three quarters the way along saying welcome to wildfire 1.0 and its been about 5 mins. help its stuck paniiiiiiiiiiic
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] snailydale:
Mine did this first time. If nothing happens, pull battery,boot into recovery, full wipe/dalvik wipe and try again?

Worked for me

Hope it helps
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cokey77:
cheers for that thought it was a gonner AND BREATH.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] stefpaul:
Pleased with the work

First of all : Good Job Guys on the ROM !!!

Installed the ROM, took 15 min to install. I used FV 13 of a month and didn't had problems with it. The present ROM is nice, has lots of features. To get it running smooth you must firs "warm it a little" (that means play with it). I used Advance Task Killer and have 50 Mb of memory available.

To make the ROM smooth i recommend :

1. no animations or just some of them

2. NO WIDGETS (they use memory)

3. Don't use programs that stay in background (like Pulse reader), use the when you need to and after that close them :cool:.

For the moment i have no problems with it, market work, applications work, camera works. I don't need BT and WiFi Tether. love to have the jog "back to light" but this is a ROM in working progress.

Another way to reduce the memory consumption is the number of screens (i think), but i don't know how to do this. Because i don't use widgets so i can gain memory, for me 3 screens is enough.

Will keep you guys up to date with the stability of the ROM.

PS: the light on the jog works when you get a call (noticed it a min ago :-d )
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
I thought it slowed the rom a lot ,not just a bit? hmmm... if it's not so much then that's good news. :-)

I didn't misunderstand, but I was just unclear in my own post :-)

if it's a trade off between multitasking and usable performance speed then I'll stick with a 2.2 rom. sorry if I didn't make that clear - figured people would read the original post and understand what I meant.

I'm sidetracked by my kids so not paying attention to what I'm writing LoL
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
haha, so in other words, cripple your phone to being even less useful than an iphone.

anyway - keep up the hard work erasmux et al - shockingly fast progress going on!

I hope some of these solutions can be utilized in your 2.2 sense rom which shouldn't have the memory shortage and speed issues....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] stefpaul:
!

you don't cripple the phone, but i personally don't use widgets because i don't need them. When i want to read my email, i use the application, when i want to see the weather, i click on the clock... As for animation, being a "ROM in working progress", i can live without using all the animations :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jwwd:
Hi

Thank you very much for this ROM.

I have problems with navigation - as soon as I start navigation after choosen destination it stops and return to homescreen. (Navigation is still running in the statusbar - and when entering it again it stops and returns to homescreen)

Anyone else have this problem?

Best regards,

Henrik
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] MentalDeath:
I can confirm that Navigation isn't working, but it doesn't stay in the notification bar for me.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tomekk_nt:
Thanx, but unfortunealy I need some widgets :| Will try to reduce memory consumption that way.

I mentioned that couple of times ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] f_padia:
I'm pretty sure the low memory levels were only changed in gb. As far as I was aware this was the change Google made to help improve battery life. Thus changing the values to lower values will only return them to those similar to previous Android versions. So I don't think you should be too put off about it
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] stefpaul:
Sorry but i don't read all the comments :D. If the processor can be clocked @ 748 MHz like in the VL 13 the ROM can run even faster, and if we can find i way to reduce the home screens from 7 to 3 (for me is enough), the little hero can handle GB with no problems :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] joni870303:
great work, but veri slow on my hero..:S
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] :
As some of the others say, it would be great if we could reduce the homescreen number from 7 to 3. I'm never gonna use 7 screens.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Thomasssss:
yep same here
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Krishna.duvvuri:
If you guys are having a problem with the speed of the rom I recommend installing Las Venturas kernel by reimer. The camera works fine in the latest version and the kernel works well with this rom just give it about 20 mins to warm up :)

Is there any fix for the 3D graphics in this rom? I can't play games such as speedx3D on here
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] joni870303:
What is the method, if I want to install a new kernel?

My hero once fast, once slow, but not the real.

Will be restore to the old kernel sometime?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
background apps, multitasking, customizability and widgets are the most fundamental user experience that separate android from the competition.

losing 3 out of 4 (all but customizability) would to me define crippling the OS.

I'm not complaining, just pointing it out.

I do hope some magic can be worked into this rom or the experience/hacks from this rom can be worked into erasmux's 2.2 sense rom :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
and it works so fast because there isn't any memory left for multitasking, at least according to the posts in this thread about that. But if that works for you then yea it sounds like a workable solution for now :-). just have to reload apps (and the launcher?) after performing some task.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] swatsbiz:
You just flash the zip like any other rom, instructions are in the thread for the kernel
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] joni870303:
My kernel version: 2.6.29.6-flykernel-12a eran@ubuntu1 #202 ; sun Dec 26 16:59:35 IST 2010

Is this kernel, or this is older than your's?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Krishna.duvvuri:
I use an app called autokiller memory optimizer which lets the user choose how much memory you want free and if you use the 40, 50, 60 preset, multitasking seems to work fine for me just the same as any other rom :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] thantos2024:
Need to finish testing, but it looks like htc hub files from sfm.21 work properly, at least it now shows me skins and apps/plugins I can download, seeing if the skins install.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
cool, happy that you're happy :-)

Just pointing out what I've read from other users and from the developer himself - but I don't run this rom (yet) so don't have first hand experience. :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Thanks for the tip, I'll look into that. It could be that values in the fixed 1.0 are too conservative, but the values before where just crazy nothing could run in the background.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
like marriage it's all about the perfect compromise
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Krishna.duvvuri:
i found that the hidden app parameter is just too high for our hero's to multitask and if you lower it to around 20-30 Mb multitasking works perfectly
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] docertabum:
Man, this kernel is totally fine. You can try to flash Las Venturas if you want. But instead of changing kernel you can try overclock your device (app SetCPU). I'm running mine at 710MHz
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Habarug:
I run Hidden app: 22

Content Provider: 24

and Empty app: 26 with no problem :) not this rom though...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mjcook1984:
Roms been great for me i also use autokiller memory. Only problems ive come across is the htc picture frame widget you can pick a picture and then instead of placing the widget it goes back to your photo albums. Also the alarm in the htc clock is abit buggy you can set and alarm but as soon as you try to change the alarm tone it seems to reset the alarms and they go back to the stock settings of 6:00, 8:00 and what ever the last one is. As long as you dont change the alarm tone from the standard one it works fine.

The notification icons on the bar are slightly off like the M in the gmail one is off to one side but i take it this is a problem with the icon image rather than the rom
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] inorde:
Not to be a spelling nazi but proper punctuation and the use of capitals is not much work and makes your messages waaay more readable.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] joni870303:
I tried the overlock 710 Mhz. Hero will faster, but this is not the best. I belive trying a 2.2 with sense rom, but it doesn't work the camera..

I hate the Eclair...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mjcook1984:
Sorry im in work. So I tried to type the post out as quick as i could.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] killra:
Add the russian language please
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] thantos2024:
Have been playing with the HTC hub files and it looks like its now working correctly for me, I have managed to download and apply all the skins on HTC hub, as well as a couple of apps. Will post the files up when I finish work.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Great news :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] sjknight413:
excellent news! how long til you finish work? haha. eagerly awaiting these files :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] inorde:
Couldn't resist and just flashed it. Initial setup and syncing really slows the phone down, but once that is done it's way better.

Settings and skins/scenes menus are a bit slow, but acceptable.

In an uninstall spree I've uninstalled HTC Hub and Likes. Reflashed the rom to restore them. No problems there.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] thantos2024:
Well I dont get in till 7 this evening, however, if you pull the HtcDirectDownloadsProvider.apk from sfm 0.21 and push it to system/app (remember to set permisions) then reboot, you should then be good to go.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] gabytzu:
i can't open games and on it..//why???? i instaled a poker game and won't opening :(
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cartman333:
For me too doodle jump, speedx 3D, the impossible game and some other.I start the app then i get black screen for a few seconds then it dropped me back to the homescreen :S
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jwwd:
Sounds like it could be the same issue I posted yesterday about Navigation:

Best regards,

Henrik
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mljjlm:
Could be that it is looking for a GPU that isn't there...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
I tested this and at the very least it breaks the installation of widgets. Possibly you can still install some skins (I think Sebastian said 1 out of the 4 skins work, or was it the other way around?).

Can anyone please try to verify this? Am I wrong? Could taking HtcDirectDownloadsProvider.apk from sfm 0.21 solve all problems with HTC Hub?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] isaac12:
is possible download all scenes and widgets,sound set,ringtones and more... skins not downloaded list says unable to connect server please try again. sorry mi english is poor
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] SebastianFM:
With files HtcDirect.apk, HtcDirectDownloadsProvider.apk and HtcHubSyncProvider.apk from 0.21 I can download skins (4 available) but installation never ends. So I prepare update for my ROM with newest files from Virgin release, also without Skins download.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tbo-art:
Could you add screenshots of the rom?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] sjknight413:
see here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1025330
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cartman333:
These apps were worked when i was on cronosbg and on ele's gb rom too :S i have this problem for this rom only
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mljjlm:
The problem is, that the CM (and AOSP) gingerbread-roms are compiled from source for the hero.. This rom is made for WildFire S which I believe has a graphics-chip..
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Well those are "native" ROMs compiled from the ASOP sources (or CM which is based on ASOP). If only we had the sources for Sense....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
heh heh - sense roms would be infinitely superior if they'd made sources available...