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[Thunderbolt General] chimpsnest:
Hey all,

Just found the "who's here from the Eris forum" thread and was going to post there, except it's closed.

Wondering what you former Eris folks are running for ROMs on the TBolt, how you like them and the differences you find between nanding and flashing.

Reading up on the TBolt ROMs it seems a bit more complicated than 'download and flash'

thoughts?

Thanks

~Me.
[Thunderbolt General] Bimmer323:
Hey man,

Not much different once you get used to CWR, instead of Amon.

Personally, I don't use/trust/like Rom Manager and just download all roms with my pc, load onto my SD and flash as normal. Took a bit to find Dalvik cache wipe but no problems since then. And I actually like the feature of having to scroll down through a bazillion "no"s to get to the flash this zip command.

I'm running Virus Sense version rom but using ADW instead of Sense and using Ziggy's kernels. I got a boot loop loading the power control zip on NonSense version so I just removed everything I don't use.

Flashed ZHP's blackedout mms and aosp dialer and I'm very happy with this beast.

I've actually been using my Eris as a music player at work, such a small screen, I think it's what is making me need glasses now, can't have anything to do with getting older..... :rolleyes:
[Thunderbolt General] Beastclaw:
I had Taz's ROM on my Eris and now I am running BAMF 1.6.3nte. At first I was freaked out at not having Amon but I have been able to use CWR flawlessly so far.
[Thunderbolt General] DS36:
Im using the broken CM7 pre-alpha as my daily driver

everything works except for 4g but that will come soon and few other items are broken but for a pr-alpha its a dam good rom

ps flash an aosp kernel too
[Thunderbolt General] Chadashcroft22:
Stock Rom here I need a Rom to come out that makes me want to root/flash my bolt. Oh well there's always tomorrow!
[Thunderbolt General] tazzpatriot:
Lol chimp everyone thinks Ur a dude :D:rolleyes:
[Thunderbolt General] knave68:
Just like Bimmer I do everything manually (without rom mananger). On the Eris I bounced back and forth between Tazz,s and Shed's CM builds. On the TBolt I've been pretty happy with Das BAMF roms. These TB forums are a world different than the Eris forums.
[Thunderbolt General] pmdied:
Bamf stripped 1.1
[Thunderbolt General] mdeblaz:
I'm waiting for something to come along like xtrSense or xtrRom... so I can flash it and forget about it because everything just works.

I also don't have experience with CWR... I liked Amon
[Thunderbolt General] Bimmer323:
Ooops, I think everybody on forums are dudes, i guess cause my wife gives me so much crap about being on them so much......!LOL!

Sorry bout that. :D
[Thunderbolt General] carycooke:
Its still that easy chimp just download and flash in cwr

Still love quick boot also

On eris loved tazz floyo

Thunderbolt im sticking to bamf 1.63 and imoseyen lean kernel

I have had better luck with his than adranalynes that is already cooked in
[Thunderbolt General] chimpsnest:
No worries at all, "chimpsnest" isn't really a very froo-froo girly name like "MrsTBoltLover" (hey,that's a good one), and my avatar is a little manly too - if I didn't disagree w/the "pinking" of sports symbols I'd throw a pinked out Bruins B up there, but I find that blasphemous :-)

My BF calls me a phone dork and loved picking on me when I was tweaking my Eris. I tell him he's just jealous w/his Moto Droid Pro and lack of rooting and greatness :D I think he's just waiting for me to mess my phone up, ever the pessimist :rolleyes:

If I do flash ROMs (which I'm starting to feel the itch to do) I think I will do it via the boot menu instead of ROM manager, so I guess I'd just do Power/Volume down to get in there, then "recovery" which gets me into CWM, then the same data wiping and dalvik wiping, then install zip from SD card and (hopefully) off I'd go.

What is it that ROM manager does - just sort of simplify the process? The fact that it's a program makes me wonder what happens if I can't get back into my phone and back into the program? :eek:

I do miss the folks from our little forum, seems we had a great crew and it's not quite the same here (still great people, but you know what I mean).

Loving the Bolt, I'm lucky to be in a 4G area 90% of the time, so it would be nice to have a ROM that has that capability.
[Thunderbolt General] GreginNH:
Running BAMF 1.1 stripped....awesome!!!

Prior to that lightning rom 3.3.1 also awesome...those seem to be the 2 most stable imo
[Thunderbolt General] GreginNH:
And as for cwr ..took me a little bit to get used to it but its pretty much the same as amon in theory ....a bit more shuffling around though but it seems to work just fine.
[Thunderbolt General] Busphan:
Hey Chimp, I'm just running stock root with Adrynalyne's 4.4.7 kernel. It's definitely good to see so many eris folks here. Right now I haven't flashed any custom roms so I can stay away from crack flashing. We'll see how long that lasts, lol.
[Thunderbolt General] chimpsnest:
Oooh, I can flash just a kernel, hadn't thought of that! :eek: So, what has this Kernel done for ya? Do you notice differences w/it, battery life, etc? Does it mess w/4G at all?

Feels like starting the learning process all over again :)
[Thunderbolt General] orion421:
FWIW I have never had an issue using rom manager on either the Fascinate or TB since moving on from the Eris. I t just does all the steps for you. Reboots recovery,wipes what needs wiping(minus your bum),flashes then reboots. It's a very handy program.

As far as the roms go I have only ever used bamf and cm7. Adryn and TDB did amazing work on the Fascinate and I trust their work. I'm also very much looking forward to what JT and Kaos have up their sleeves for this monster.

I'm not sure there is a "best" kernel out there right now as all phones react differently but once again I have great luck with both Adryn's and droids kernels.

Good luck getting your phone set up and don't be afraid of flashing due to the different recovery. While this forum is not as close nit and familiar as the Eris people, once you learn who to trust and ask questions too the support you will receive will be just as good.
[Thunderbolt General] Jrocker23:
Im running the updated stock rom w/ Adrynalynes 4.4.7 Kernal...
[Thunderbolt General] Busphan:
I did notice battery improvement after flashing 4.3 kernel but then after the 4g outage my battery went down hill. So I won't blame the kernel, as I believe it is the network. And there has been no ill effects on 4g.
[Thunderbolt General] Natronics:
Running BAMF Stripped Beta 1.1 w/ Drod BFS 1.6 Kernel.

I actually like Tesla Coil a lot but BAMF has my heart right now. :cool:
[Thunderbolt General] chimpsnest:
Thanks, by updated stock ROM do you mean the one we flash when we root?

Tx
[Thunderbolt General] strongergravity:
I'm on BAMF1.3 nte myself. I'm probably going to jump to their BAMFstripped 1.1 when I get some free time. Once Cyanogen gets squared away here I may go that route.

On BAMF, I've been using the kernel that comes with it, and I really don't overclock - it is so much faster than what I was used to with the Eris that I haven't really felt the pull for extra speed. :)

The best way to speed your TB is to play with your Eris for a few minutes - It seems so much slower now! I didn't think it was too bad when I had it, now I don't understand how I was able to use it!
[Droid 2 Global General] manrayboy:
ok im trying to use cdma but i cant get in diag mode i tried ##diag# and all the other ##diag combinations but cdma can connect to the port it just wont read or cant even send spc
[Droid 2 Global General] leobg:
You want ##PROGRAM (##7764726). SPC code is 000000. Make sure phone is in CDMA mode.
[Droid 2 Global General] manrayboy:
thnx for the help but it still wont read it or wont even send spc and yes i used 000000
[Droid 2 Global General] seventieslord:
Is there any kind of diagnostic mode/secret menu that I can access on this phone when in GSM mode? I promise I won't go in and do anything too stupid, I just want to see what I could do if I was smarter.
[Droid 2 Global General] ankitmania:
Camera key + power up then connect the USB to the computer. Go to device manager -> ports and you will see your D2G
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] scristopher:
hi im trying to figure out how to find my primary/secondary HA address on a htc evo that i flashed to revol instead of sprint

I have tried setting them to 255.255.255.255 and that kinda works but everything is somewhat slow and i believe it causes name resolution failures because sometimes i have to reload a page 3 or 4 times before it will come up

I have found this thread here:

http://www.evdoforums.com/thread2001.html

which references this page:

http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?whoami=1&w=

going to the dslreports tool (when connected to mobile network) shows me an ip address and says dns as level3.net (after i hit refresh3x.. gateway time out)

is that ip address going to be my HA? or am i confused here about what that url does?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
[Thunderbolt General] 4x4le:
Im wondering if anyone noticed a speed difference between wireless tether speedtest.net results and the speedtest app results?

Im able to get 20-25mbps on the app but only 5-8mbps down when tethered to my fairly new laptop. Im wondering if there is a remedy to this, kernal or whatever or if it has to do to the fact that its connecting on G instead of N.

Dont get me wrong, 5-8 is pretty fast but if I can get more than 2x that speed by doing something different I want to do something different.

Thanks

Brandon
[Thunderbolt General] Oxnor:
I am experiencing the same slow down.
[Thunderbolt General] arunningpir8:
Don't forget the wifi card in your laptops can make a huge difference. Remember that Wireless G tops out at ~13Mb/s. I was able to get the "full" 13Mb/s on my laptop though that is only G. If I had a wireless N card I'm sure the numbers would be the same as the speedtest app.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
Um... no... it's a max of 54Mb/s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11g-2003

Stop believing the Speedtest app, go to the actual website on your phone and do the speedtest from there. That will show your actual speeds.
[Thunderbolt General] ncwildcat:
It has been stated for a while now that the speedtest app is inaccurate with LTE
[Thunderbolt General] 4x4le:
still getting much better results in the browser. 15-20 down

Ive had no trouble getting high speed tests on other networks with the card in this laptop either.

The little sticker in the lower right corner says I have a Acer Nplify 802.11b/g/n and Im only connecting on G, so I guess im only broadcasting on g.

The tether I downloaded was on googles website.

The one in the market isnt showing up for me.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
And the whole internet isn't run off of that server. You got that speed, from that test, on that server, on that site, at that exact time. That doesn't mean you are going to get that for everything. It's a speedTEST, keyword... test.

Yes, VZW has blocked the viewing of any wireless tethering apps in the market. Because they don't want anyone tethering if they aren't paying for it. And after the free trial Mobile Hotspot is up on the 15th of it is up they may be monitoring it much more closely.
[Thunderbolt General] 4x4le:
yea sure, but shouldnt testing that same server through the same connection yield similar results?

I can test it from my phone and then my computer or visa versa and consistently get lower results on my computer.

Also im wondering why its broadcasting on g instead of n

If you say it will only broadcast on g then Ill just take that but on my dink I would always get consistent results when doing this test
[Thunderbolt General] arunningpir8:
Really? Don't get me wrong but if you can post a picture of a transfer rate of 54Mb/s I would gladly retract my statement.

That's like saying you get 300Mb/s on N, just because it's rated at that, doesn't mean thats what you actually get. Under perfectly ideal conditions, a wireless G connection will get you ~25Mb/s...thats perfectly ideal. Now take into consideration not sitting within 5 inches of the router, other wireless frequencies in the air, and plenty of other things in the air to disrupt the path of the wave, and you get a "ideal" 13Mb/s.

Nonetheless, the new speedtest app did fix the upload issues with the massive send buffer of the thunderbolt, so they are as accurate as the web version is.

As for this you will always get more consistent results from a landline as it is a fixed connection, and is always connected to the same host (your isp). Your phone on the other hand is always going to be vastly different especially when you select different servers to test your speed with. Some servers I get almost 30Mb/s, others I top out around 9-10...it all depends on a lot of things.

All in all your speed shouldn't be a big issue with tethering unless you are torrenting which god help us all you better not be ;)

For general browsing, anything over 5Mb/s will be hard for the general user to see a difference in. If I had to put a surefire number on my throughput on tethering, I get around 1.5MB/s on LTE, which is equal to my comcast line in my apartment.

As stated earlier, wireless G is 2.4Ghz which is a high frequency. High frequency waves have a much lower skin depth than lower frequency waves (such as LTE running 700Mhz). This means that the waves will be much more susceptible to things in its path such as your body :)

If you are getting at least 5-8Mb/s on your tether, you should be happy. Think of where you were before on 3g :P
[Thunderbolt General] elrichmeister:
I actually just had the same issue, WiFi tether only yielded 3-5 mbit down. On WiFi mobile hotspot I got 11-13 mbit down, so I believe there is something going on.
[Thunderbolt General] TheStick13:
I'm wirelessly tethered right now, ran a speed test on my laptop and the browser on my phone, and got almost identical numbers. 10Mb/s Down and 1.2Mb/s Up.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
Picture

And I didn't say anything about he should be getting 54Mb/s, read again. I clarified a false statement that was made and nothing more.
[Thunderbolt General] dajogejr:
I've been saying this for a while.

Even on Easy Tether (wired USB connection) on laptop and desktop I'm getting 3 down 1.5 up. Verified on Speed Test sites and actually downloading files.

When I first got the phone (Mar. 18th) I could use Easy Tether OR Wifi hotspot and get the same LTE speeds I got on my phone (using the site, not the app).
[Thunderbolt General] arunningpir8:
I meant a picture using your wireless G router/card connection...which I can positively guarantee that is not.

All ranting aside though, I personally think the tethered speeds are excellent compared to where we were only months ago.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
lol yeah its some pic from google image search.
[Thunderbolt General] arunningpir8:
well played good sir ;)
[Thunderbolt General] pabdaddy1995:
Terrible Tether Speeds

I bought this TB specifically to tether and my tether speeds are about 1/10th that of the phone speeds. On the phone I get ~8m/13m however on PC and I tried 3 including windows 7 and xp i get ~1.2m/800k. So let me ask a couple of questions.

1. I used the speedtest.net app how much can it be off? I will try the website and see if its that much different.

2. This is a new phone and the software status is blank is this normal.

3. It was explained to me that my area is a 4g EXT area and not native which they said may cause a difference (but how can that be if the phone has good speeds).

Is there anything I can do? If not i'm sending it back.
[Thunderbolt General] pstrang:
Same story here, large slow down on wireless tethering.

Barnacle and Wireless Tether for Root Users act similarly. Running the pre-alpha CM7 (RC0.6) on my Bolt.

Perhaps there is some kernel optimizations needed for this type of "pass through"?
[Thunderbolt General] macdanif:
Just wanted to reiterate that the speedtest app is innaccurate to say the least. If you run the app you will get far different numbers than if you go to speedtest.net via the browser. Also I'm assuming everyone is giving these results on 4G? If not, we need to set the bar a little higher :)
[Thunderbolt General] CenFlo:
Use this site for your metrics:

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest

I've found speedtest.net to be grossly inaccurate.
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
Wow. Trying that site, my speeds were actually higher than the speed test app. Interesting.
[Thunderbolt General] pabdaddy1995:
Still dramatically different speeds tethering

I did what you suggested (www.speakeasy.net/speedtest) and I got 11m/1m and on the tethered PC's i get ~2m/800k.

Any other ideas?
[Thunderbolt General] pabdaddy1995:
Still no information on this huh? I think I'm gonna call HTC.
[Thunderbolt General] pabdaddy1995:
Here is another little nugget.

EasyTether = 11mb/4mb

Barnacles Wifi tether = 1mb/1mb

Sprint Wifi tether = 1mb/1mb

Wifi Tether..lemons, muller, etc. = 1mb/1mb
[EVO 4G General] rochford77:
ok so with all the great AOSP kernels out there are there any ones that will work with sense? I really like Zenkernel+havs. will this work on sense roms? with all the new sense 3.0 roms becoming "usable" i am looking to FINALLY go back to sense for the first time since my HeroC was on 1.5 unrooted LMAO.
[EVO 4G General] Solicitous:
Check out netarchy's kernels and ziggy's (I think) kernels. Both provide great battery life, overclocking/underclocking, as well as other functions. Just make sure you find one that works with your Evo

Sent from my Evo
[Thunderbolt General] jlouang:
The pictures I'm taking of all the cicadas hatching is very clear. Or maybe it is the screen.
[Thunderbolt General] dbisch:
I prefer my D700 and Zeiss 50/1.4 .;)
[Thunderbolt General] turbosrrgood:
+1, Not only does it take very clear pictures (for a phone), but the "shutter" is much faster, and can handle motion much better than my previous phones.

The camera was definitely a pleasant surprise to me.

I also much prefer NOT having a physical camera button, since I would hit it accidentally on occasion. The virtual button is nicely positioned.
[Verizon Droid Charge] droidmark:
SELLING Outside of the Market Place is Against Forum Rules

Do not let this Happen Again Thanks

Post Locked
[Verizon Droid Charge] davey11:
Check your pm
[Verizon Droid Charge] jism31:
imnuts should jump on this!
[Verizon Droid Charge] imnuts:
I would if I had ~$600, I don't though.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halowizard:
can someone please explain to me what journaling means? what it does? and if needed how do i get it? im new to this and want to start flashing roms but im trying to collect as much info before i actually do something. thanks
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
I am going to be nice and answer your question after 2 words 1)search and 2)Google

Journalling is when the phone writes all things back to the phone twice so that it verifies everything. Then if you drop your phone and the battery pops out and it corrupts your data, there is a non-corrupted version still on your phone and the operating system checks and uses that one. Journalling due to writing twice is supposed to slow down your performance some (I never noticed). Choice is yours. It takes me like a half hour to recover from multiple crashes from a dropped phone.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
Oh and it depends on the ROM whether it is on, off or a choice is given. If you install a ROM with no journalling, it mostly can be turned on by doing a nand backup and restore. If you are stock, you are on.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] driguez:
Thanks that helped
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halowizard:
this the q & a part of the forum right?.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RandomKing:
Indeed it is. But before you ask a Q, double check that there isn't already an A. Save yourself the trouble of waiting, and save the rest of us from repeatedly writing the same thing. 99.9% of the time you're asking something that's been answered many times and can be easily found.

This one, for example, Kenny himself answered a couple weeks ago HERE.

And someone else asked months ago HERE.

And all I had to do was Google "Journaling XDA".

:D
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poit:
Journaling file systems use various techniques to keep a log of changes to files as they are written, and in the event of data corruption these logs can be used to repair the damage. This makes it much more unlikely that a crash will corrupt data. Here's a link to Wikipedia's entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system

Anyway, using a non-journaling file system on your phone can result in corrupt files if a program FC's or the phone is shut down by pulling the battery. The benefits are faster file writes and better battery life because there is less writing to disk with each file change.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
Thank you...in my head I compare it to computer write verifies, but it is more like the backup copy of the master boot record...got it..thanks. Was just trying to keep it simple.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SINNN:
Gota luv the high horse riding trolls in here. Guy comes in and asked a question and trolls tell him to google it. Lol. Trolololol
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] murso74:
so do the stock roms use journaling? are the custom roms more prone to crashing and losing data?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RandomKing:
Thanks for trolling. Feel free to criticize when you make a useful post this year.

You may notice that, despite asking he search ahead of time in the future, his question was answered twice, regardless.

Are you too high up on your horse to accept an answer given to someone else in an existing thread? Must you have your own, brand new, completely identical answer in a brand new, redundant and forum-flooding thread?

Thanks for playing! :p

Journaling is a stock feature, yes. Custom roms are not more prone to crashing, generally. It is apps that may crash, due to their own nature, or incompatibility with a rom, which will result in data loss in the absence of journaling.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
If a question has been asked (and probably just freaking yesterday!) then yeah! SEARCH is your friend. Would you like to look for a thread you were posting in and see 20 questions on "what is an apk"? If people are able to find XDA they are able to use google. Not a high horse, but obviously can't teach basic knowledge here. And for the record, I answered the question as well...but as you were trolling too fast I guess you missed that.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] murso74:
do you have to reenable journaling every time you flash a rom?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Reginalb124:
I would say, before rooting and after, before installing a custom rom, I got crashes all the time. About 70% were twLauncher (which is pathetic, this phone has convinced me I will never own another from Samsung - and I have a long history with Samsung phones) about 25% were from Maps (again, just sad) with the remaining 5% being other apps. twLauncher crashed more than any piece of software I have ever used on any electronics device in my life, something was wrong with it on this phone,i am quite sure it wasn't normal.

Either way, i am happy to say it wasn't the hardware (knock on wood). Not a single thing has crashed since installing Frankenstein Android. I am supremely happy with it.

In regards to three re-posting: I can't wait to hit 10 posts so that I can post in the thread about it Frankenstein. I have been lurking at xda a long time, finally decided I needed to post to share my experiences and gratitude to the developer. But I am having a hard time hitting the requisite 10 posts. Trying to post things that haven't been said before here is really hard if you aren't a developer yourself.

Sent from my Epic 4g with Frankenstein Froyo
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
Mostly, if the ROM disables it. In other words every time you flash a no journal ROM it disables it.

The new Bonsai ROM will let you choose and then it will stick whether you reflash it or not.