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[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
That is great. We all should download and save locally the old OS versins and the beta plus the current and older versions of the Desktop Software. Why? Because in near future these 'can possibly' be used to install a full version of Android to be hopefully developed by some devs soon. If necessary one can reboot from qnx without wifi cnnection (to disable any future auto updates by RIM to interefere with Android ports or to keep qnx in older versions) into a proper full Anroid version. The current versions of Desktop Software as tricked by the link abve can be interrupted in the install process. So lets keep every current and older versions of RIM software and OSes in archive.

This is the most rewarding and biggest challenge to any dev and no one is daring to take up a proper Android port challenge on PB. As far as mere rooting goes, Chris Wade has just said on his twitter that Dingleberry 3 beta will be released this weekend. However to enable the market wrapping/emulation we might need the opensourcebb procedure too. Lets see if Chris's DB3 fixes the market too or just roots which would be currently pretty useless without market unless for any devs' purposes.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] -]Megacharge[-:
Yes, we should have a repository, like the Playbook .bar Android app repository that currently exists, but have another one only for OS versions.

As a side note, the guys over at Crackberry in the Playbook forums are extremely excited about this poll and the news of a possible XDA forum here. They've also been voting here, I made a thread over there letting them know about it and it's garnered amazing responses, some of them have never even heard of XDA and have been happy to learn about it and have made an account to participate in the forums here too.

XDA made some new members, and Playbook owners may finally get their well deserved XDA Playbook forum.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] -]Megacharge[-:
Hmm I was just about to get started on a Wiki for the Playbook, but for some reason when I am at that part of the forum, all I get is a blank page with nothing loading. When I refresh the page a few times I will intermittently get this error ("Fatal error: Call to a member function getID() on a non-object in /var/www/forum/forum/wiki/includes/AuthPlugin_vBSSO.php on line 315")

Perhaps I don't have sufficient privileges? When I'm logged out I can see the main XDA wiki page, but when I log in I get this blank white page problem, and that error when refreshing.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] vans2:
Count me in as a donor if someone ports Android across to the Playbook
[Miscellaneous Android Development] -]Megacharge[-:
If someone could help direct me on how to start a Playbook Wiki here I will. As you can see in my post above, I'm having some issues with that part of the forums.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Sorry dont know about wiki, been spreading the word myself too. We need someone who is a member on big forums like slickdeals to call xda members or ask them to register. I also think rootzwiki is a good place to attract devs as the devs doing the Cyanogenmod port for HP Tuchpad started there as their main port so I have been posting there too:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11189-blackberry-playbook-rooted/

recent slickdeals on PB:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Blac...w.,cf.osb&fp=7bd9f59bac313d&biw=1876&bih=1026

I think we are going to win the race on the poll but we really need some devs who can handle the biggest challenge going on the best 7 inch tab reguarly going on sale at factory cost price.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] gearless:
How to screw up your PB

I'd be more then happy to donate $50 to this, I have a playbook that I've been fussing with for several months now and although I love the look and feel and quality of the PB QNX is under developed as hell. This wonderful hardware is going to waste.

Hell I'd be willing to help work on it myself (though no idea where to start). Are there any non dev PB users out there besides my self that might be willing to try getting this off the ground ourselves? I'm sure it would be a cool learning experience and there are a bunch of tutorials out there now on creating your own android roms... Anyone interested maybe we can con a real dev into helping if we lay some ground work (wet cement?)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] -]Megacharge[-:
I just want to be able to dual boot Android and QNX. The OS on the Playbook is sweet, unique and smooth, and I would never want to "replace" it with Android, I would how ever love to be able to get Android on it so I could use it when I need it.

I want to write up an XDA device wiki for it, but I'm having issues accessing that part of the forums.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
QNX is very very similar to HP's WebOS which runs on Touchpad tablets that were firesaled and I have one of. A few of CM devs have released 4 builds of Android (3.5alpha now) that are actually better than many other final release androids I have used on other devices. It is a beautiful piece of work as like RIM QNX, HP WebOS is still secret and they had to guess all routines including device drivers. It is a dual boot with WebOS/Android-GB and the next release probably within a month is the ICS version which is almost complere. The main two guys working on it are Erik and Oleg. The best way for an Android dual boot is to get them to make device drivers and routines and aim for ICS as it is open source for the first build not GB. The best bet is if people request Erik aka dalingrin who is a very nice guy too, to do for BB-PB what he did so famously for HP Touchpad.

https://twitter.com/#!/dalingrin

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10121-releasealpha35cyanogenmod-touchpad/

PS: please keep spreading the link for the poll for folk to register, we are now nearly number 2 and we will win this as I said all along.

PPS: We are now number 2 with over 400 votes, keep spreading the link in comments on other sites asking them to register on xda & vote

PPS: We are only 6 votes behind number 1 and I will beg for votes again today on another forum and within one hour I promise we are the winner and will stay that way :) From now on we need to keep spreading the word for looking for devs, we need a different strategy for that, that is the main goal.

PPPS: They (LG Optimus ME P350) hardly had any considerable votes recently but since we mobilized today they are getting votes from somewhere, but resistence is useless, we shall triumph :)

Their campaign:

http://www.52lg.com/viewthread.php?tid=1782566

http://optimus-users.blogspot.com/2011/12/cyanogenmod-720-237-p350.html

http://www.androidpt.com/forum/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=185&id=267999&Itemid=61

http://optimus-users.blogspot.com/2011/12/importante-espaco-no-xda_30.html

http://www.facebook.com/OptimusP350/posts/189776334451534

etc.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
Are you having trouble with the wiki itself or the xda wiki? You know that there is a wiki for the playbook for just general info right? Could we build off that.

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[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Its a two man race but we will Win the race despite the late fightback.

Dingleberry 3 was supposed to be released last weekend & the weekend before that but only a few friends of the developer are getting it. I suggest if it is not released by Monday morning people root by the other method announced last week while we can before OS2 proper arrives. All the usual delaying and other tactics by RIM is also very fishy. We really need a reputable developer of xda or CM to start making a proper Android port as over 6 months has been wasted by various delaying tactics and having a dual boot Android is the only way to save the billion dollar investment in QNX if not RIM corporation itself from bankruptcy who is stupidly stopping us by any devious means necessary. So I would say if by Monday Dingleberry 3 delaying game goes on just root while you can and lets look for an honest developer who is also capable of a full Android port too:

http://crackberry.com/want-root-your-playbook-you-still-can
[Miscellaneous Android Development] -]Megacharge[-:
Yes, I'm having trouble with the XDA wiki.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
We are for the first time the number 1 in the race only one vote ahead with 508 votes at this moment. We might fall back into second position but I beleive we will win this poll as I said when we entered late into the race with nearly no votes. The reason is that PB is the device that cries out for a full Android port more than any other and it is also the biggest security conscious device and biggest challenge to any devs and lets hope one or more are man enough to tackle this biggest challenge and make a name for themself too.

We can't be complacent. Please keep posting the poll URL in comments on FB, etc. with this message:

Register and vote for﻿ Playbook to have its own forum on xda as first step to interest devs to make a dual boot proper full-on Android on it, spread the word: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1416406

And on Youtube:

Register and vote for﻿ Playbook to have its own forum on xda as first step to interest devs to make a dual boot proper full-on Android on it, spread the word: goo.gl(slash)JMQIr
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Root still possible:

http://opensourcebb.com/2011/12/downgrade-playbook-os-local-copy/

Then your browser & android stops working but do not panic, re install two older files, guide and megaupload link here:

http://crackberry.com/having-trouble-android-market-playbook

Android Market on:

http://crackberry.com/how-install-android-market-and-other-applications-your-blackberry-playbook

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Is it possible to upgrade from the old OS2 beta 2.0.0.4869 to new beta 2.0.0.6149 again and not lose market? Yes:

1. Downgrade to 2.0.0.4869

2. Root Playbook

3. Install Android Market

4. Upgrade to 2.0.0.6149

5. Reinstall Android Market

http://forums.crackberry.com/playbook-rooting-f256/adwlauncher-doesnt-start-683568/index2.html
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
Did you do it and if yes, how well does it work and do most apps work? I am debating to do it or not.

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[Miscellaneous Android Development] vabi:
I'm a newbie. Voted for a playbook forum.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] -]Megacharge[-:
Thanks! we need all the votes we can get.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Yes I did but the browser & android stops working and I had to reinstall couple of sys files to sort it out. A lot of people are having difficulty as seen from comments on those pages. I would say wait a little more as Chris Wade says on his twitter the delay is due xsasha trying to do an easy 1 click package that does downgrading & rooting & market install all in one. So wait for xsasha to finish which might be few days to a week or maybe little bit longer.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
RIM waited so long with their delaying tactics and no hope of a full android apart from the lame emulator which works on half apps only and no devs could port proper Android on PB until all 7" tablets just died: Nvidia subsidized Asus 7" tablet announced yesterday in Vegas with not dual core BUT quad core, 1280x800, 8Mpixel cam, MicroSD card slot, PLUS NATIVE ICS for $249:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/nvidia-and-asus-tease-7-inch-tegra-3-tablet-with-ics-and-249-pr/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
Just looked now and the playbook has a nice jump in first place for the thread. Keep it up all.

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[Miscellaneous Android Development] -]Megacharge[-:
The Android player is far from lame, it seems to run the Android apps at the same speed they run on my SGSII natively. As for the MeMO, who knows when it will even be released, on top of that, QNX runs so much smoother than Android, I'm willing to bet even with it's quad core, the Playbook will still be on par speed wise.

The MeMO looks very nice, but the PlayBook will still have it's user base and it's uses for business. It's not going anywhere any time soon.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Yes I have the WebOS too and since it is Open Source a much better prospect and more apps and preware apps too but those of us with dual boot android hardly ever use it. WebOS, QNX & various Linux (on tablets not desktops) ROMs and others are not going anywhere just like Novell Netware OS is still around somewhere but that is just sad. Firstly the QNX apps are a joke and it has come to a stop and basically it's future is dead, this is reality. Secondly Android apps on QNX do not convert in a good percentage I tried. Thirdly it is a lame emulation, RIM can call call it wrapping with salad and fries or whatever, and even if converted and signed many of them lose certain functonalities and menu settings. Fourthly you can only run one at a time and the launchers basically swap places with the app hence not even a proper emulation either. You can have an audio app running in background plus an app if you are lucky but there is no multiple android apps which even one of my lamer tabs does beautifully with 256mb. Fifthly it is not even a cut down working limited emulation of Android as when it crashes the android app instance as it does very often, we have to wait 10 minutes for it to let us run another Android attempt. And no, I doubt all or any of the above will be fixed in OS2 proper.

So QNX will be around like numerous obscure OSes and in this case on security/defence/police/intelligence tabs (only for a year or two more) and some jet fighters and tanks currently but like the rest of numerous OSes out there apart from Android, iOS & if lucky WP7 & if very lucky WebOS (doubt it) it will be just another of the many in wilderness as long as mass global market user basis is concerned but RIM is too busy to notice that as they are more into funny handshakes which will make them extinct as they ignore reality. Survival wise, it is a simple numbers game of user basis worldwide needed to compete with Android/iOS not which OS is better and the App numbers too which RIM made extra difficult by extra stringent procedures for devs many of whom gave up as a result as the last nail in the coffin. These are facts, its not the survival of the best but the fittest in the cut throat fast moving consumer user basis reality out there. In the world of short term based strategy mistakes due to greed amongst all corps (incl. Google & Apple & MS) shooting themselves in the foot, RIM has extra lemming tendencies. The suicidal morons even patch any gaps in their updates for rooting never mind bootloader possibility or proper android port in future to reassure their minor tiny market of security/defence users which will drag their tablet (then all of RIM) into bankruptcy, none of which affects their few thousand QNX only devices. Unbellievable. Cliff => that way, god knows we are trying but they are just a huge dinosaur corp and no one dares to tell the truth to management level above nevermind the directors who are the usual clueless boardroom BSers.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
News on OS2:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/blackberry-playbook-os-2-hands-on/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
OK I am still spreading the word for peope to vote for our forum and as I said when we had a only a few votes we will win it and now we have a 70 vote lead but please keep spreading the word as I don't know when the poll closes and we can't be complacent. Now we are ready for the next stage to get specific develpers to undertake the task of developing a bootloader and then a proper Android port. Rooting can be down by downgrading. We need a different focused strategy for this phase. I have some ideas and will formulate and post them here in the next few days. Please post any ideas you have on that too as this is even more important.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
Just to let playbooks owners know we need to keep the votes coming. They just added some galaxy phones to XDA now. We could be next, but the thing is we probably need more demand and someone one can be a very demanding dev who wants to take a jump at developing for the playbook. By the way has anyone gotten a hold of the guy behind dingleberry and told him about promoting the playbook on XDA and having him promote it too along with the guy behind the one click root and market?

I am happy to if you all want.

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[Miscellaneous Android Development] aramil:
added my vote in.

I was wondering what else I could try to "break" my playbook :D ICS sounds like the answer!

Have to admit the QNX is very slick.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] fireflamer:
Just read this thread and i agree, we should have Playbook forum. Just voted and seems we're number 1 for now. Playbook is a great device and i'm proud with it.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
They just made 2 forums for Galaxy Y & W & IIRC one of them was 3rd in the poll.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] -]Megacharge[-:
Yup. The Playbook has been in top 2 for a while now. It's starting to look like the guys here at XDA are afraid of it. Perhaps it's beyond their abilities....
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Yet bigger problem is no developers dare to take on the challenge of coding an android boot for it.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] amit864:
We don't have playbook developers on XDA. So no matter what there is no chance for a forum. If someone can boot an alpha cm7/cm9 on playbook, you can request a forum based on popularity.

But without any real developers, we are just going to hear unfair and unsporting rants from playbook users like below:
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
There were never any developers for other devices untill they joined xda. Most devices here did not exist when XDA was started but their developers gradually joined. So illogical to say there are no developers for PB and never will be. No developers for quadcore phones yet but will be too, so absurd reasoning. Secondly Why has Playbook been added to the poll then and wasting lots of people's time? Thirdly, unless the above is a flame post by the competition in the poll which would be against the rules.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] MrBigWaffles:
Basically: Build it and they will come.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Finally xsasha finished packaging dingleberry 3 for rooting & market install, now can be done from mac & linux too:

http://dingleberry.it/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
How complicated is it to use? The last one needed a guide.

Edit: I just saw a guide for it on youtube already but no market install though. But the rooting looks easy.

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[Miscellaneous Android Development] amit864:
I am not flaming, just pointing to the fact that playbook dev support on the forum is non-existing and no one is even trying to get recovery etc for pb. Everyone point to dingle berry 3 and asks for android (ICS!! plz plz plz).

I saw the galaxy R forum started out as just a thread. i9003 also started as a thread to a sub section, galaxy y and Z also had mods and roms and CFW and CEM before forum.

For any kind of development, the developers need to buy the device. Most people (including my self) bought blackberry playbook because of the price drop, and the hope that it will get android.

Give a reason to developers to tinker around with Playbook. Donate a playbook to recognized developers, lend out playbook to a developer friend for taking a look etc.

Get a recognized XDA developer to port CWM on blackberry PLAYBOOK, and see how fast you get a forum!!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
@Voelker I already rooted before but glad you found the guide. The market install link is in previous pages if they didnt automate it in 3.

@Amit Firstly that is the chicken and egg situation of what comes first. Secondly it varies in different cases. Thirdly you can not determine prerequisites like a working android rom before a forum is started as you are not an admin or or a mod and probably want some other device in the poll to win. I hope you didnt sell your PB. Fourthly as I said before why is PB in the poll wasting so many peoples time in registering and voting and following it up constantly unless the admins and mods are honest in giving it a chance despite your claim that they are playing with so many people.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Dingleberry 3.0 & 3.0.1. already updated to 3.0.2 so please re-download if you have not rooted yet.

http://dingleberry.it/

Also additional versions info on there in case you missed it:

http://bnxtreme.com/drupal/content/dingleberry-release-notes
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
AFTER ROOTING, reboot a few times to get the root prompt # in DingleSSH cmd window. To make sure you have root, try turning on & off the blue light on PB from Dingleberry SSH dosbox:

echo "blue::on" >> /pps/services/led/status

echo "blue::off" >> /pps/services/led/status

replace smiley with : o without any space inbetween the two letters :)

After rooting Install Android Market on PB but first see below comments too:

http://crackberry.com/how-install-android-market-and-other-applications-your-blackberry-playbook

but I had to reinstall sys.android.bar using DDPB as the folder:

sys.android.[really_long_string_of_characters specific to each PB].ns

was missing, so install it as well as a launcher like honeycomb (HCL etc from playbookbars.com) first as the above guide suggests. sys.android.bar is available if you still havent got it yet or just click:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SM4GSEFK

(file source: http://crackberry.com/having-trouble-android-market-playbook)

If that folder is there in WinSCP or your android launcher or app launches properly then no need to download and reinstall sys.android.bar

Rooting & Market install is for advanced users as can damage device, so if you have problems or questions you should not do it as dingleberry page warns too.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
http://www.t3.com/news/blackberry-to-launch-playbook-2-and-10-inch-tablet

http://www.thestar.com/business/art...n-talks-with-samsung-the-potential-buyer?bn=1
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
www.crackberry.com/blackberry-playbook-os-20-developer-beta-updated-v2007111

Here is the new beta.

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[Miscellaneous Android Development] Charlesnasi:
FYI: After rooting your PlayBook on 2.0.0.4689 and upgrading to 2.0.0.7111 will remove your root. I can confirm this.

After upgrading to 2.0.0.7111 there is only the suggestive word function. The Android Player is not upgraded! (Same MD5 on sys.android.bar)