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Pfft, you are a clumsy girl ;) Let's see some university photos! Candid shots of random cuties ;):D lmao jk

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[Off-topic] dexter93:
Unfortunately there aren't many Cuties ... see my university is like the MIT of Greece ... most of us are boys... the rest are quite ugly girls... amount of really beautiful girls is really low...
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Dex, I am disappoint. :(

-We do what we must because we can; for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead-
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Just a quick timelapse, playing around, nothing special.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaszekpl/6519233137/
[Off-topic] phatmanxxl:
Nice! Camera ZOOM fx has a time lapse mode, I'd like to try it sometime.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Without a tripod? That would be useless ...
[Off-topic] TravisBean:
Sacrilege !!! :D

A post about a point and shoot camera, but if anybody is in the market for one, at this price point, this ia a great deal. 1080 full HD movie mode. ($139)

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Cyber-Shot-DSC-WX9-Vario-Tessar-Wide-Angle/dp/B004H8FNJY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324162524&sr=8-1

^^^ The black one is now $139, prices seem to vary by color.

[YOUTUBE]xZQvQrT9vgI[/YOUTUBE]
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Hey. Went a photo trip to the 1st cemetery of Athens! It was great. I tried a new film there, so i don't know the results yet :eek: probably will develop it in the Christmas holidays .... :D
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Can't wait...especially since I love shooting cemeteries. lol
[Off-topic] dexter93:
I finally developed that film! But i dont think its gonna be scanned anytime soon, caause the teacher wont let me xD But printed some photos of it in the darkroom today... it was quite good :D

Also uploaded new pics on my flickr... ( acctually theyre old ones... i just found tthem and posted them xD)
[Off-topic] boborone:
That's the reason I was looking at something taht came bundled with a panhead. ;)

Thanks undercover for the suggestions. I'll look into it.

Got a lightweight camera, don't need it to support much weight. But don't need some space age titanium carbon fiber ultra something or other. I don't carrying weight mind. I got a Camelbak or/and my bike to load the weight most of the time. Something sturdy and flexable would kick ass if that makes sense.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
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Browse the three sites I mentioned, select your price range and see what tickles your fancy....then if it turns out to be new and not used, check it on Amazon for a final price ckeck.

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[Off-topic] boborone:
dude the movie where they vowl an d teh due e with the beloswskiey is ****ing t bad ass
[Off-topic] _Variable:
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Drunk posting again?? :eek::rolleyes::p

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
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Remind me to reread tomorrow when I'm sober.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Just getting Bobo squared away on finding a decent tripod in his price range. :good::cowboy:
[Off-topic] jaszek:
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As I said. Remind me when I'm sober. I'll link something for him.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
When you're sober, read what I linked (or atleast told him about) before you put in the extra work.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Ok. Yea, since we're doing tripod talk. Beards&Hats is great, so is Adorama, and Calumet (all local shops for me lol).

FOr the first tripod I'd go with what undercover has (or whoever posted that pic) I had it for a few good years. If you want to get legs and head separate, look at the manfrotos, and if you want a head, I got a "Fancier FT-717AH" for like $80 on amazon. Many different brand names for it. (http://www.amazon.com/CowboyStudio-...F8&qid=1359224996&sr=8-4&keywords=fancier+717) It's a great fluid head, which works just like the much more expensive manfrotto head. Also I have to show off. I have Gitzo Carbon 6X legs. VERY light stuff, but expensive. That video head. A Vanguard SBH-250 head, which weighs more than the tripod itself lol. An Fplate, and an old Benro Aluminum tripod which fully extended is close to 7 feet and heave as a mother****er.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
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For 75 bucks, u sure that Cowboy head is true fluid or just heavily greased like other "look alike" heads? Velbon is known for making "fluid" heads that look legit but arent the real deal.

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[Off-topic] boborone:
I went to the cowboy studio here and they were kinda dicks. Wouldn't even honor their own prices online. And most their stuff is cheap knock off china made stuff.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Mine is pretty fluid, I dont have any video to show you though.

That's the only thing they're good for. Cheap knock off china stuffs.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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New pic :)

Took it about 2 hours ago.

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
That out of focus fan blade is very distracting.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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You mean the closest blade? :confused:

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[Off-topic] boborone:
Good composition though mtm
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Yep
[Off-topic] undercover:
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Imho its way too cramped. There is nothing that features as a main subject. However, I really like that M_T_M is exploring new angles and different approach. This will eventually lead to something very good :thumbup:

I had some exciting shots today. Will share once processed. :)
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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Ok...how about this one?

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[Off-topic] undercover:
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Why did you hide it?! Great shot, although would have probably looked slightly better if you panned left a bit more to include the whole vehicle. Nice shot M_T_M, very nice.

Oh, since you are on the app. PM incoming, just notifying :)
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
@M_T_M

The Ford is a great subject, good focus and color.

IMO the content is a bit busy on the right side.

Maybe a good candidate for the HDRI format.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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Thanks mate :)

HDRI? :confused:

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[Off-topic] Thats OK:
:cool:

HDRI is High Dynamic Range Imaging.

The fancier pro cameras use this to emphasize contrast and color difference in photos.

Kind of makes pics look like CGI.

Jas posted a HDR image back further in this thread.

Ah there it is:
[Off-topic] boborone:
@ mtm

If you ever decide to use G+, this guy is a good person to learn from for HDR.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+TreyRatcliff/about
[Off-topic] veeman:
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I got magic lantern on my camera and I was trying to use the hdr video mode on it but I couldn't figure out how to do it.
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
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I follow him. He takes beautiful pictures
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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Thanks Bobo ;)

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[Off-topic] boborone:
And he's a really cool cat. Talked to him a couple times. He's a real personable down to earth kind of dude.
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
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He is. :thumbup:
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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Last one for today :)

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[Off-topic] roofrider:
Omg! MTM is improving.

Again like tinky said, that rear mudguard!
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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I'll get better....y'all see! ;):)

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[Off-topic] Babydollll:
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I've seen marked improvement already. :cool:

(Not that I actually know anything about photography)
[Off-topic] veeman:
@Jaszek

Is POTM still going? It says the page is down on the link in the first post.

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Some pics that I took recently. If you want full size images just ask.
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Awesome!

I like :good:
[Off-topic] jaszek:
It is. E-mail the photos to the e-mail in the OP. Hopefully my page is back up by next weekend, it's switching servers. If not I'll figure something out.
[Off-topic] veeman:
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OK. Got it.

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Thanks :D
[Off-topic] jaszek:
The 28mm f/2.8 Canon FD lense came in today that I won on eBay. Finally something wider. Now I just need to win that infrared filter and buy a roll of infrared film and see how that goes.
[Off-topic] Nutterpc:
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I'll link to one of my deviant art photos later

Got a good Sunset one as well. Exif data is in all my pics
[Off-topic] jaszek:
If you're talking about POTM, then email it.
[Off-topic] veeman:
Your website. Fix it nao! :eek:

I was trying to take some pictures today and almost fell and died.
[Off-topic] boborone:
dexter says

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[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Eeek!

Never do that don't get killed! :eek:

Lost a camera over Waimea Canyon some years ago...me or the camera (didn't have the strap around me neck either)
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Need to talk to my website guy.

Also, just booked bus tickets to D.C. It better not rain...
[Off-topic] veeman:
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Scary!

Mine wasn't that dramatic. I feel on some ice on the road.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Lightweights. I was 2 inches away from getting hit by a hockey puck traveling over 100mph. Good thing the photographer are not any bigger, even though sometimes I wish they were. lol
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Ouch you'd be dead now :eek:

Photygraphy is dangerous kids always wonder what it took to get some of those crazy un-edited pics.
[Off-topic] boborone:
This guy walks towards the gunfire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Nachtwey

64 and still goes to war zones to take pics.

Or you just happen to be at the right place and right time........and not worry about getting in the situation and do your job as a journalist.

[YOUTUBE]gFdGKeQph-Q[/YOUTUBE]

I love that his first instinct is to pick his camera up and start snapping.

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But the movie War Photographer about him is awful. Painfully slow. I made it halfway and gave up. But it is cool to see that alot of famous war/conflict pics come from him from all around the world.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
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I meant photographers hole before
[Off-topic] boborone:
What you stick your lens through in the glass? I keep waiting on a crash to happen at NASCAR in front of us. In the fence down below in front of us, is a photographer hole in the fence. It's a lot bigger than it needs to be. I keep waiting to see one of em get their head ripped off.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Yep. I have my own photo somewhere, but here is Scott Kelby's
[Off-topic] jaszek:
If you want to watch a good documentary/film about conflict photographer's, you should watch "The Bang Bang Club". Don't want to spoil it for you people, but it's a great movie, movie wise, and the photographer's are well known and you know at least one of the photos.
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Nachtwey is pretty famous.

The pictures of his showing the ashes of the war dead on the ground after bombing attacks in Kosovo is so strikingly depressing. :(
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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Ok....this pic should be my entry to the contest :)

Took it about 1 hour ago with my phone ;)

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
E-mail it, if that's your choice.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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What do you think? :confused:

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
I think you have a mind of your own.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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What do you mean? Good mind, twisted mind, creative mind....what, what of a donut? :eek::confused:

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
****er. I want a donut now.
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
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That's pretty, mtm
[Off-topic] jaszek:
FedEx guy came with something for me today.
[Off-topic] boborone:
No C-41? And I'm surprised you didn't get any 200 with all the night shots you do.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
I dont have the time and patience to develop myself...if you mean C-41 dev. And if you mean C41 B&W film, then this film costs $2.60 per roll, C41 B&W film is around $5. And I'm shooting everything on film, and 400 is still not that bad for night shots.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
**** **** ****!!!

Forgot to log in to bid on the infrared filter. Guy put a bid in the last 10 seconds, and I forgot about keeping an eye on it. Bastard got if for $10.50, when they run for like $50 the lowest.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Dayum that sucks
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Looks like no infrared photos from me until I find a cheap filter, and maybe get a free digital camera I can modify.
[Off-topic] boborone:
So is the xsi really a dead dead camera?
[Off-topic] jaszek:
You know where the sensor is? Now there's a hole. lol
[Off-topic] boborone:
Put a new one

or mod the fuji
[Off-topic] jaszek:
I'm not modding the fuji. It cost me too much.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Holy sht man. Were you drunk?
[Off-topic] jaszek:
A little bit
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Destroying a cheaper one at the moment

Broke on of the flex cables, but thats from the zoom, and I can life with manual. It was broken before already though, so dont worry.
[Off-topic] boborone:
What are you doing to it
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Taking off the IR blocking filter. lol
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Ok, it's not working. The zoom motor is trying to push the lens out.
[Off-topic] boborone:
lolwat
[Off-topic] jaszek:
The motor is moving to push the lens out. But it can't. The cable is broken off.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Oh it's still programmed to do so. Without a fw hack, you'd need to disable the motor hard wire.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Yep. And I'm too lazy to do that
[Off-topic] dexter93:
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that ektar is c41 :rolleyes:

Someone's having fun.good luck with that jas;)

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[Off-topic] _Variable:
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A pic taken from my cousins house last sunday

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
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You quoted a post from nearly 2 years ago. And you still don't have 10 posts. Good job
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Wow,

I can see yer xmas sig from 2012 on yer monitor in front of yer notebook with the hockey game on yer desk!

If I tried taking that thing apart I'd be dropping teeny screws everywhere because I drink too much coffee and get shaky plus I'm impatient and nervous too...

...plus my close up vision is crap...and the wife has pretty much wrecked all my dental and jewelers tools...ooh well that's retired\married life...:(

Seriously tho...what is the outcome so far?

Getting anywhere?
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Well I fixed the initial problem, but accidentally broke the flex cable that controls the zooming on the lens, and since it's trying to push out the lens, there's not much I can do than get a new senor/lens assembly, and put the new one in and hope it works.

Also, working with laptops for 6 years taught me how to take care of the tiny screws. I also have a collection of left over screws that I couldn't find a hole to put them in.
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
2...I gots a berzillions type collection of hardware here...computer sheet (ee=i) all over the friggin place in my secret lab upstairs...

Extra hardware left over is one of my specialty's.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
I sometimes sell old computer parts from salvaged laptops on ebay. I live in a ****ty NYC apartment, so I have no room for a secret lab.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
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Most shtty apartments in nyc are secret labs, just of a different variety.

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[Off-topic] jaszek:
I'm talking about a Man Cave secret lab. Not the other lab. My apartment is a lab in itself.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
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Sry...my attempt at a joke.:cool:

-Easier than it sounds, harder than it looks.-
[Off-topic] jaszek:
We all make heroin here in NYC. Every single household. lol
[Off-topic] boborone:
Some drain creek shots

IMG_1283 by boborone, on Flickr

IMG_1288 by boborone, on Flickr

This one has no pp at all. Thought it looked kinda as is.

IMG_1303 by boborone, on Flickr

My lens branded me.

IMG_1305 by boborone, on Flickr
[Off-topic] CB620:
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[Off-topic] undercover:
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Good shot. I like composition. Did you use a prime for that? DoF is very good, aperture must have been fairly high. No noise, so iso was low and excellent lighting since there is no blur. Well done Sir.

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[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Just noticed I still had this!

It was in our memento cabinet.

I remember shooting pics with it waaaaaaay back.

It was my Dads Brownie 6-20...he carried it everywhere.

Be fun to find a roll of film and relive old times.
[Off-topic] boborone:
That a real brownie? That's awesome! I almost picked one up off craigslist last year for $15.
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Yoop!

Been sitting in a glass display here since my mom died in 89...

I'd forgotten about it.

There's gotta be a zillion of these things around.

This one is from 1941 I believe...I'll have to research.

Where can I get film for it?
[Off-topic] boborone:
I don't know. That's why I didn't buy it. It would have just sat on some vintage display of mine too. I always thought they were cool though. The lomas of their day.
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
I think...(don't quote me) they were made in one version or another for 20 years.

Compare that to now...stuff don't last 3 months before the next best thing hits.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Yea, there were only two models of em. The one I was looking at the original. Only made it for a few years, then the second model came out. Not really any changes at all to it. Just made it cheaper, but functioned just as well.

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http://www.brownie-camera.com/buyfilm.shtml

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This is the one I was looking at buying.

http://www.brownie-camera.com/47.shtml

Didn't know they had that many models. For the Target's, there were two models.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
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I have a photo of a brownie ad on my Facebook. Bob can you link it to him since he didn't have me on FB? It's in the train museum album.

Also, 5:20 in the morning. Bus to D.C. in an hour. Now that's ****ing dedication
[Off-topic] jaszek:
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Getting closer
[Off-topic] boborone:
Where you going? PA for the fights?

And link who? ThatsOK? You got your fb link in your sig. Unless you mean your personal page and sure.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
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I'm in D.C. and Yea, personal
[Off-topic] boborone:
Yea, just the pic of the white house. And will do. Have fun and take lots of pics.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
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Quick phone pic
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Groovy baby!

Good picture there Jaz.

Is the back of the capitol still all shored up?...been a few years since.

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I'd like to have this one...

Just so I can buy an old good wide aperture lens for it.

...and I think it will be easy to mount to my Celestron.

Then I like this one because of the lens...

...crappy pro reviews tho...same old poor high ISO.

I already have poopy high ISO cameras in the Lumix line :(

Then there's this item (best choice I know)

Problem is the wife will choke me if I spend dollars on this.

Wish it was cheaper with no lens...everyone wants to stick the 18-55 on it for 50 bucks.

I dunno...

Camera shopping for me is torture...

Wish a barrel of money would just roll up in front of the house lol...

Could just go with an EOS film camera and a great lens...
[Off-topic] boborone:
I got the T3i and I'm glad it doesn't have a touch screen. I have it set to turn the screen off when I half press the shutter button and to come back on you have to press the display button. Even when it is turned on, my settings don't turn the screen on. You have to press the display button. If I didn't have it set like this, my nose would be changing things everytime I went to shoot the thing if it was touch screen. You really don't use the menus as much as you think. And you can change anything looking into the viewfinder and use the buttons with the wheel. You being a film guy (which is what I was used to before this), you won't look at the screen much. Save the money and get the T3i, or if you don't want an articulated screen, get the T2i. Jaszek has a 7D which has the same sensor in it. It's a good camera. Mostly what you're paying for in the later models is the outer/hard features of it.

And if you get it, I'll point in the direction for some great how to vids for it. Taught me everything about it. I don't use any of the quick easy dial settings. Program and shutter priority mode is what I use most. Aperature priority a lil bit.

It's a good buy that me and veeman both have.

EDIT

And there's more upgrades that the T3i has over the T2i besides the screen. It also controls wireless flash in the camera, has higher ISO. Something weird though that I've found, the highest ISO setting performs better than 800. 800 looks like ass. The ISO performance is like a bell curve. Good to sht to good again. I'd get the T3i if you're looking at that series.

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And check this out if you're looking at another film camera.

[YOUTUBE]Fde0phU5Dpo[/YOUTUBE]
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Tanx bobo!

I think there's one clear choice now.

The Canon T3i

From what I read the big diffs from the T3i to 4i were in video.

I have a functioning video cam so that would be somewhat secondary.

I seldom video anything.

Tall ISO low light is my main worry...a flip out screen is a want with me also.

Been looking at EOS lenses too...wide to medium big aperture non zoom for me.

Tired of slow zoom lenses...

I'm the worst camera junkie there ever was!

*The vid was cool I liked that...kicking back with a smoke and a bud LOL
[Off-topic] jaszek:
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From the side the pic was taken you can't get too close, but the other side you can get to the stairs. Didn't try tough. Too many copers.