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[Captivate Themes and Apps] yourname146:
I had to wait a little more than a week to get my invite from requesting it. And two days later, STILL uploading! (~7500/~10000).

What I'm wondering is if it would make a ton more sense if they would just upload one of each song from everyone, then serve that same file to anyone wanting to listen to the song.

Also, desktop app running fine. Browser player is clunky, and slow, but that might be because songs are still being added. The Android app is awesome, it's updating fine and really looks great. Running well on Captivate using Continuum v5.5 (Gingerbread 2.3.3)
[Captivate Themes and Apps] deepdeep34:
yes it does work ;-)
[Captivate Themes and Apps] samvillian:
How do I check when I requested the invite? Did they ever send an email? I don't remember :( :confused:

also, the music app works on my gr 12
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Dr Triffid:
Signed up the day of the announcement and received my invite about a week ago. Still haven't decided whether to upload selected works or to just break down and put the slamnon mynbandwidth.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] OBatRFan:
I'm trying to decide the same thing. I'm just uploading select artists for now.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] mikeypopps:
Verizon FIOS....Slam On!!!

Ehh its only 16 gigs
[Captivate Themes and Apps] nakedninja42:
Took 3 and half days to upload 4000 songs, so happy its done!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] greengoldmello:
For the battery to be murdered by simply playing an mp3? When I listen to music the phone stays warm and I loose like 30% in an album and a half...WTF? That's crazy bad.

Also, when I look to see what's using up the battery, it says android system and cell standby accounted for over 60% of the usage...smh
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
Flash the eagle blood 1.02. Fixers all that and you will not be disappointed
[T-Mobile LG G2x] greengoldmello:
Ok ill try that, thanks
[T-Mobile LG G2x] JHaste:
no not normal... i just played through 3 different albums while on campus and my batter is at 85% and i was browsing the web while music was playing as well for a good deal of time
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
I have used all flavors, even back when it was TouchFlo on my HTC Vogue... I don't get it. I paid for SPB Mobile Shell 3D, and it seems much more fluid. I know there are a few nifty treats like flip-over-to-silence-call, etc, but really there are only a few. I was really hoping these 3.0 ROMs would add some must-have features, but I found myself thinking... "I have Sense 3.0, what now?"

Flashing to Deck's 1.1 right now, and as soon as CM7 gets MMS working again, I'll be back on their 2.3.4 build.

What features of Sense 1.0, 2.1, or 3.0 really pull you in? I'm not trying to bash Sense, but I just wonder if I am missing some hidden gem that Mobile Shell 3D doesn't have?

Thanks
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Look and feel for some.

Some people use it because they used to use it with their Windows Mobile 6.x phone and they're just used to it.
[EVO 4G General] ItsLasher:
This is me. I like the look and feel without having to buy a third party add on.
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
well when I used it on WM7, and it was called touchflo, it made it easy to switch between important info real quick... like tabs... what we have now is basically just the stock launcher with a few widgets on top of it. I do like the font/text size on Sense 3.0, but it seems hard to justify the ROM being 3 times larger... especially when I just ended up putting SPB 3D right on top of it.

The zoomed-in text cursor was kinda cool... I dunno, I guess I just figured there was something really kick-ass that I was overlooking. I'll probably go back to Sense when the Evo 3D comes out, most likely out of necessity.

The things I like about Sense ROMs aren't really Sense-related... I like that full 720p recording works, I like the accuracy of GPS, and a few other things. Although I can say that the Kingdom A.1 ROM had really weak WIFI performance... I had a hard time staying connected and once I flashed to Deck's it worked great again.

What I don't get is how come some ROMs restore all my apps through the Market, and others don't? Kingdom ROM did... Most CM7 ROMs do too.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
WindOws vs pc debate...no one will ever have a reason, it's preference, if it aint broke don't fix...
[EVO 4G General] Sim-X:
I actually like sense a lot. It's clean & nice looking. I have tried out SPB shell 3D but was missing my sense widgets so had to go back to sense.
[EVO 4G General] newter55:
Blonde vs. Brunette, full figure or skinny.....
[EVO 4G General] zone23:
I don't have to go look for widgets to do things they are already built into Sense. If in fact I enjoyed having nothing but icons then AOSP would be great. When on AOSP I spend all my time looking for widgets that do what Sense does out of the box. I also find that when I load AOSP ROMs up with all the widgets they aren't any faster.
[EVO 4G General] mordbane:
Sense offers a great cohesive look for a phone for users that aren't obsessessed with having a unique customized look. The themes, backgrounds, widgets, apps all work together great and you'd be hard pressed to make your phone look ugly using all Sense stuff. LP, ADW, Beautiful/Fancy Widgets, etc. can make for some ugly screenies in the wrong hands. The amount of options offered in those apps is mind boggling for your average everyday cellphone users. Its a great selling point to have all the social synergy stuff and theming out the box without having to buy apps immediately to make your phone pretty.
[EVO 4G General] ffolkes:
I was puzzled by this for a while too. Turns out flashing a ROM and immediately flashing the gapps will cause this. If you flash a ROM, boot, then go back to recovery to flash the gapps, you won't get your apps restored unless you do it yourself. There's also a setting (Settings->Privacy->Automatic Restore) that has some bearing on this too.
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
dang, I never knew the timing of the gapps flash mattered... I always did it the same on every ROM flash and sometimes it worked, and other times it didn't. I wish Google would give us the ability to manage our backed up info/settings.

I guess since I bought SPB Mobile Shell 3D that my preferences are different... they are already the same or better than Sense widgets, and much smoother than any Sense launcher, (full hw accel on Evo.) So I'd probably load this on top of any Sense installation anyways. I really think that would just be a waste. I have to look at non-launcher differences. I like facebook contact integration, but that is done with the Facebook app... I guess if you really like the status updates on your contacts application, and things like friendstream, then Sense would be preferrable. Personally I disable friendstream because I'd rather just check the action out in the main app or on the full website.

As far as the OS-level changes go, are they mostly cosmetic? I did notice the flip-to-silence kind of thing, but I wonder if 4G performance is better, or anything like that?
[EVO 4G General] thegregbradley:
My god.... THANK YOU. THIS is what keeps me from trying out new roms more often, I hate dealing with 40 applications trying to download from the market every time I switch.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I think you can also bypass that by skipping that initial 'touch the naughty Android' screen. I've never had this happen and I always flash GApps in the same session. And I notice I always have the backup / restore option checked too.

That ol' 4 point breath of death tap.

Top Left

Top Right

Lower Right

Lower Left

Dance around that Android
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
the heck is that? :)
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
you forgot..

put your right foot in..

put your right foot out..

put your right foot in..

and shake it all about..
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
That first screen with the Android, the one that says 'touch the Android to begin,' if you tap around it you can skip that initial BS and I think that is when the app restoration begins. I used to try and make sure I was always set for app restore but it never did it. If you tap the upper left, upper right, lower right, and lower left around the Android you can bypass that.

Pretty sure that's why, despite my previous and earlier attempts to have the restoration take place, it never happened. Glad, because it sounds like a pain.* :D

*that may not be the case, but it's the only logical reason I can think of as to why I could never get it. but I'm pretty sure. but I could also be wrong. I haven't slept ... and the drinks are flowing.**

**Go Bulls
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
Honestly, why would you want to skip it? I HATE having to dig through the market again to find everything... I'd much rather them reinstall automatically...
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Because people have complained about a bunch of old apps they don't want installing again, that or many people use titanium. I grab as I go, make sure things are getting set up and working right as I go. I grab my important ones, free and paid, and sometimes I don't grab apps up again. That way you don't end up forgetting you restored a bunch of **** you downloaded and never removed. I don't have a TON of apps though, which some seem to.

Either way.

Choices, bro.

Duh.

#Winning

:cool:
[EVO 4G General] DanDroid_V3.0:
Same here :)
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Some dudes like chicks, some dudes like dudes. Some dudes like to get a little rough, some dudes just wanna watch you do it. Hell, I almost feel like it isn't worth chewing through the restraints unless there is a promise of midgets and duck tape...
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
A little too much info there....
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
Maybe the right question to ask the community is: Why is Sense 3.0 so much larger than 2.1 when it doesn't offer much (at all) over the previous versions?
[EVO 4G General] Mercury133:
I have wondered the same thing, and aside from a couple small features, I couldn't answer that question. Also...maybe we can approach this from another way...why are aosp

Sent from my fully pimped, Evo 4g!

Ginger Ale beta 2

Amon Ra 2.3
[EVO 4G General] Mercury133:
Roms better? I know that performance is supposed to be better, but what do you all think?

Sorry, hit send by mistake.

Sent from my fully pimped, Evo 4g!

Ginger Ale beta 2

Amon Ra 2.3
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
I think this horse is so dead, it has moved on past the bloating stage and is into putrification. This debate has been going on, in this exact same form, since the Hero days when they finally got 2.1 working. The only new bit, and it is an admittedly good bit, is what exactly made the new Sense so much larger? Btw, if you haven't tried it, it is pretty neat...just not a daily driver for me. I use the gallery TOO much at work to just deal with the quirks.
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
MMS works fine on the latest cm Final (7.0.3.1)

Only the nightlies have that problem. I never understood why people choose to run nightlies anyway...

Sent from my HTC Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
I also had problems with WIFI signal, along with the typical icon issue... I ended up loading SPB 3D on top of it, so if I go that route there's really no difference in any other ROM I run... on top of TouchDown not being supported in the Market for that ROM... I just don't see where the bulk comes in. I thought it was fun, and looked pretty, but I really don't see where the differences are between 1.0, 2.1, and 3.0... maybe a few between 1.0 and 2.1, but nothing between 2.1 and 3.0.

Not trying to debate between what is better, but what features are there _really_ worth going with Sense over AOSP? I think I noticed about 3 or 4 system settings in this new Kingdom ROM, but that's really it.
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
MMS works fine on the latest cm Final (7.0.3.1)

Only the nightlies have that problem. I never understood why people choose to run nightlies anyway...

Sent from my HTC Evo 4G[/QUOTE]

Bleeding-edge... that's why. Anywhoozle, I am actually already back on 7.0.3.1 now, 2.3.3 so I have MMS back.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
In my opinion, none. I love AOSP. Right now, I am running Evervolv, and my evo has never felt smoother...especially the app drawer!
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
I guess there was so much hype around Sense 3.0 that I had really high expectations... same way I let the hype get me excited about Android 2.2 -> 2.3 milestone... which was basically nothing, at all.

I am used to the days where I got a major change every few weeks on my HTC Vogue... but we also started out with nothing... not even GPS, so I guess it's hard to complain.
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
And as far as your initial post goes... it's all personal preference. I switch between the two quite often, but I keep finding myself coming back to aosp. It looks cleaner, feels faster, etc. Its android the way it was meant to be. Maybe we're all just biased to what we used first? I bought the G1 shortly after launch, and loved it. I used to try out old hero roms, but never stuck with them.

The Evo was my first sense phone, and after a few weeks I was ready to go back to aosp. But I stuck with Sense until cm6 final came out.

I was really excited when I saw Sense 3.0, and I thought that I would be switching back to sense. I really loved the locksreen. But then I found WidgetLocker, and realized that

a) its not as useful as I initially thought

b) even if I did like it, I could just use WidgetLocker and stick with aosp.

Just my $0.02

Sent from my HTC Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] Solicitous:
I agree when you say that this discussion has been going on for such a long time. I think the debate will never end. I never got the chance to experience any WM devices (i.e. touch pro 2) but I have heard they had numerous problems. My first entry into Android was the Evo (such a beautiful device) and I was hooked. I became attached to HTC Sense and grew to admire its aesthetics and functionalities. HTC makes some of the best widgets around compared to stock. I have tried Cyanogenmod, but it's not my cup of tea. It will always be one's preference

Sent from my Evo
[EVO 4G General] Jjday7:
Auch as I like android, I don't see my self using Aosp because it's just missing too much. Sense brings a classy look to android. The widgets are enough to use sense alone. I find myself also trying to find widgets to replace sense when I use Cm7.
[EVO 4G General] xxxmina:
I like sence.... mostly the HTC sence facebook features .... i dont even use the facebook app.... i use a mix of HTC Facebook and browser ....
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
HTC's Facebook implementation is slow and bloated. And now that Facebook seems to have killed the touch site, the mobile app is a must-have. It's come a long way.

Sent from my HTC Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] ldominguez1986:
I love aosp but one thing I can't do without that is a sense thing is the dialer. I love the fact that to call anyone I just start typing there name and the contact comes up. I hate that in regular android I have to look up the contacts to do this. Is there an app that would do this with aosp???
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
That is also one of my complaints. I'm sure there are plenty of replacent dialers out there.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Dialer one (also others) or hit your search key and start typing a name. Sense is a lot of hype. By far the best skinning of Android out there, though.
[EVO 4G General] ncfastls1:
I like Sense for it's look and feel mostly, and the fact that everything just works how it's supposed to. Yea you can tell me AOSP has 4G and it does work, but it's buggy as ****. If you leave it on for a while it just seems to get stuck and not use 4G. Some other minor bugs here and there like after a call ends it just hangs for a while.

I also think Sense looks better. I don't want to have to add third party apps to do anything, let alone change my launcher using one of them. The widgets in sense also kick ass compared to anything AOSP.

As far as speed goes, I used to think AOSP was better. Mainly using Salvage-Mod. But honestly after using both that and MikFroyo 4.6x, I think MikFroyo is faster and has less bugs.
[EVO 4G General] steal25:
dialer 2 is also very good with some really good features.

as for the sense debate, i never really liked the look of it. it has some decent features. but i like LPP for the personalization ease of it and most of the widgets are like sense any ways. I always run a remove sense script everytime i flash a new rom.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
There are a lot of other options to be had, which is nice. But I also understand why people wouldn't want to have to resort to 3rd party replacements for stock Sense 'features.'
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
How many of you guys actually use the Sense Widgets? I only ever used the weather...
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
When using sense I use the Facebook, calendar, music, and sometimes task Widgets.

Tapa tapa tapa
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Not I. I don't care for widgets that sync data in the background. I use a music widget, a third-party calculator widget (cause sense CAN NOT seem to make the calculator function properly..haven't been able to in well over a year...and I'm talking for basic calc functions), and I sometimes use a clock, like clockr. All the other widgets are superfluous to my needs.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
all about options, I like the vanilla, showed my evo when with a sense rom off to our sales manager he loved it oppsed to his droid so
[EVO 4G General] ItsLasher:
Eye candy and function are the main draws and bother are built in and free.
[EVO 4G General] gomorrah:
The point of Sense is so that HTC can continue to produce Android phones that most of the unknowing populous adore. Thereby creating a market which produces phones that we can use at our own discretion. If they didnt make Sense, the public wouldnt buy their phones, which would kill most of HTC's total sales. And contrary to the belief around here, the majority of people dont root their phones. The only reason you know a bunch of people with rooted phones is because you're you. In effect, the reason they make Sense is so that we can can take it off. You dont think they know about that?!? Obviously its an awesome overlay. But every dev/hacker/modder/themer has at one time owned an HTC phone. Theres a reason for that.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Truth. ^^

And I don't use many widgets, but others do. My only widget at the moment - apart from Google search - is a Calengoo widget. I don't Facebook so that Friendster ish isn't big for me. I know a lot of people like it, and there are alternatives, but I just use my Seesmic app and call it a day.

We're all different. Some people like ROMs / Themes that look like they were done by a child w/ crayons. I wont hate, I can only try to appreciate and understand others tastes. Beauty of Android, I guess. We all know what WE love.
[EVO 4G General] EvoCM7fTw420:
Virus' 3.0 ROM is ridiculous and its still in alpha :)

Sent from my HTC Supersonic infected with Sense 3.0 :-p
[EVO 4G General] kthejoker20:
I'm sorry for you.

I would never pay that much for it.

ADW way better.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
People gonna buy what they buy ... but damn if that isn't some goofy ass hype. :D
[EVO 4G General] :
The clock app. Sense has the glossiest ****ing clock app ive ever seen and i LOVE IT! And the big android pic when your making a call. CM7 has a small pic.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
MIUI weather widget looks way better.

:D
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
I bought it for the hardware accelerated launcher and app drawer. Makes the phone feel brand new. Definitely an expensive purchase though. 100 times more fluid than Sense though. I don't get why HTC hasn't made hw acceleration while a third party vendor can make it work on dozens of different devices...
[EVO 4G General] jordant2:
Definitely for the widgets. They're so good that everyone else has tried to copy them. That's one of the best features of LauncherPro is that it mimics some sense widgets. Everyone has tried to mimic the sense flip clock and even the on screen weather animations. Also the facebook integration. Not to mention that sense has a very refined professional look from the widgets to the icons. I really like sense despite a small loss of speed. I always come back to a sense rom.
[EVO 4G General] bkrodgers:
Sense offers a great "out of the box" experience. To someone who just wants to use their phone, I'd certainly recommend a Sense phone over one without.

For those of us here, it's really a toss up. You can get a very similar experience with CM7, Launcher Pro Plus, and some other third party widgets. Some of Sense's "nice touches" have made it into GB as well. Copy and paste, for example, in GB, is as good or better than what Sense did. But on FroYo, Sense's copy paste was a must have for me.

Other things are really frustrating to have to choose. For example, Sense supports scrollable widgets, but only its own. All other home replacements support 3rd party scrollable widgets with a de-facto standard, but Sense has to be different. So, for example, I can't have Plume's nice scrollable widget on Sense's launcher. Of course, by going with a 3rd party launcher, I have to give up the nice Sense widgets. That's a little frustrating too, though I understand the reason they do it. Scrollable widgets really really really need to become part of the standard Android SDK.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
My problem with Sense is that it's ugly. Lens flares all over the damn place, misaligned 2003 gloss, no negative space, gradients placed where ever possible even if it makes no sense. It's like a first year design school project that deserves a C+. Most people don't care or don't see it, but any good designer would say the same.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Sense just feels more fluid and stable, also I like the browser. The asop browser does not have a non mobile option along with some other options I need. If I could get the htc browser on an asop rom I'd be in Nirvana. I've tried several times and I heard I can be done but I haven't figured out how to do it yet. I tried dolphin which is very close but its kinda buggy on cm7. That's the two main things. I personally think sense was designed to run on the EVO while asop wasn't.

I also really like the new notification dropdown setup in sense 2.1. Very handy. Asop really needs that. I always use ADW ex for my launcher too I'm not a big fan of the sense launcher.
[EVO 4G General] erider:
tried lots of roms/launchers but some reason keep going back to sense. think its cause of the widgets available.
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
I would never use the stock browser, I use Opera Mobile because is has hardware acceleration. I would never use a browser without it.
[EVO 4G General] erider:
hey Scrap, do you like opera better then dolphinHD? i havent tried the opera one cause people were bashing it a bit, but i like dolphin way better then the stock one.
[EVO 4G General] ScrapMaker:
I liked Dolphin's out-of-the-box features and the the ability to customize, but after using a hardware-accelerated browser, there's no feature that could make me go back.

My biggest beef with Opera Mobile, is even after doing the Desktop-Agent 'hack,' you still get sent to Google's mobile results if you search directly from the search key... which is how I search for everything... I have to continously find the bottom of the screen where it says show the full site.

After using Opera, I'd say it feels like an Xbox 360, while Dolphin is more like a PC from 1984... Yeah you can customize it way more, and there's awesome widgets and add-ons, but the experience just sucks. I can't stand browsing XDA and getting literally 1 frame-per-second when scrolling it zoomed it... Opera stays at high FPS most of the time.
[EVO 4G General] erider:
thanks for the info. i'll try it out today. dolphin does annoy me with how slow it can be at times.