yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Lordy. a lot happens when i sleep huh,

Right here we go

i didnt delete trips former threads cause he didnt update, thats not what i do. firstly there were a few few pages of him and other user swearing at each other, i was going to prune it then he said he was leaving xda. so i deleted them.

as for this latest travesty

One point of interest was this

Which is out of order, accusing the moderating team of taking cash for deleting his threads is seriously bad attitude.

Add this to swearing,flaming, constant disrespect to not only the moderating team but to anyone else as well.

Then in another thread some member tried to help trip by patching his ROM, maybe this person didn't ask trip first

but apparently this gave trip the free will to bad mouth him and call him names. we have actually been very lenient with trip because if you tally his possible infractions for swearing alone, they warrant a permanent ban.

So please dont accuse us of jumping the gun. because everything this child throws a tantrum i have to take my time and find out what happened, then wade through a tons of bad posts to try and sort it out.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
The mods work very hard and do their best

They are not biased at all.

I have learned this with experience with -pilot- he's a great mod.

Must be hell to be a mod here at XDA x10.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bwyan Benton:
+10000
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
It doesn't matter how good a developer is, but when they become foul mouthed children they need to either shut up or leave. and this is the third major disruption for this forum he has caused. so it wasn't a power trip.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
The posts Trip was banned for had to be deleted, because of bad language and personal attacks. leaving them visible would have incited a lot of bad feeling and hatred that may have gone out of control, all in all 4 moderators have collaborated to come to this decision, and we discussed what to do over time
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Well then I think you should keep your mouth shut instead of talking in a language you are not good with.

You won't see me going around talking trash to people in Hindi when I don't know it fluently. The same applies to you

If you have nothing to say, don't say it.

What's up with Trip attracting such an arrogant fanbase? You even called me an animal. I think it's better that he's gone to another forum, at least people like that guy ^^ can go.

And check out Pilot's post, and tell my what trip said is not wrong with a straight face.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Regardless of what others have done to trip. all we ask for is for him to keep it quiet and let us do our job, but he didn't.

If anything gets out of hand in a thread it needs to be reported. a glance tells me intead of reporting he went and shot his mouth off in rather a vulgar way
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
You can't find the bad posts because as i said earlier they were deleted. If he was angry then fair enough but by swearing at users and personally attacking them then he broke the rules

Trip has had 3 major warnings and yet continues to openly badmouth people in the forums and it will not be tolerated

not by him not by any other member.

the thread were deleted by me cause he said he was leaving xda developers the latest ones he threw the toys from are only closed, and they are not getting re-opened
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
There is in vBulletin a function called ''soft-deleting''. Topic will only be visible for admins/mods. You should have used that instead of doing a permanent delete. You can also softdelete posts... And if you soft-delete you can always restore the post... If you guys did something against the trolls this would never happen. (I'm not saying you guys do nothing) But I saw many trolls that are still active here.
[XPERIA X10 General] jingjonas:
Hey pilot

Well I do agree that some of trip's followers do have fowl language but I'm sure there are many proper users of his roms here who are willing to listen and reason things out other than calling people animals.

For proper users of his roms who just want to report bugs and aid with development, I think its rather unfair that his threads get deleted cause we do want to help him with development. Just like I've mentioned above some of trip's fans are really vulgar and everything but arent the mods doing the same to trip. Yes trip has a temperament unlike many others but shouldn't the mods reason out and listen to his pov too? Instead of issuing bans freely(there is this mod with the Mr bean picture who sent trip on a vacation)

I guess the mods should have a chat with trip, understand more about what happened. Understand what he meant when "people stole his work " ask him for evidence. I'm sure you'd be pissed too if you spend time fixing bugs and people take your work and just use launcherpro and call it a new Rom. No matter how open source android can be, its still called stealing. Imagine you're a student in school and you have no patents over the project idea and I take your PowerPoint slides and change the colour of the font and call it my own work, won't you be outraged?

Just my 2 cents
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
I know. they are soft deleted

I dont see how that makes a difference
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
So, if they are soft deleted you can restore them anytime. You can also use it as evidence. Forgot the word in my previous post :p
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Its not how he feels i object to

its how he handles it, badmouthing people accusing the moderators of accepting payments to delewte his threads

he was banned for a just cause, not freely. and it doesn't matter what people do. calling them vulgar things in an open forum is disrespectful and nasty

and this is the third time its happened so really we have to cut off at some point
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
i cant restore them, not because of a limitation. but because hes foul mouthed and those posts are in breach of the rules

the only person who needs them are mikechannon and svetius
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I say delete those posts! :D vBulletin has a inline-function so deleting is easy peasy :p

Btw, how about the trolls in the thread. The discussion is now only about trip, but what did you guys do with the trolls? If you guys did something then which trolls are they?
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Well since trip decided to start calling them names instead of reporting them. finding means id have to sit and search his threads for badmouthers and give out retroactive infractions. without a report i cant do anything
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
yea, that's true buddy. Next time I'll report! :)
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
thanks dude

its really all we ask
[XPERIA X10 General] pulser_g2:
I went through a thread last night, and banned a few people for 6 months for some frankly appalling personal attacks.

I'm not going into details of who they are, as that's not right to do... But let's say that the trolls I observed should learn their lessons.
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
Meeh I was counting on trip for the gb cam fix. hopefully he will come back,his miui roms are the best imo the standard android ui is very dated.
[XPERIA X10 General] LegibleEel:
So is trip permanently band or just for a few months???
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
being banned permo would surely be too harsh especially with the cards trip brings to the table....
[XPERIA X10 General] Crocodile1973:
i was reading some of the posts as they were happening last night in the arc thread in particular, and what i read was many members supporting trip and saying so, but a whole page of posts was deleted. Which really needs answering why? Why delete these posts, then leave a few in that were flaming. I don't understand that at all. Even my post was deleted twice, which didn't inclde one bad word. To me reading at the time, it seemed the mods were deleting all posts that sided with trip.

I asked this, and one replied it was deleted for thread cleanup, erm hang on, so you delete good posts in a cleanup, but you cannot catch the trouble makers in one, hmmm very odd. I think personnal issues, clash of personality was to blame here
[XPERIA X10 General] a1exander:
He hasnt stopped developement, he has just moved to another forum.

http://android.modaco.com/category/419/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-x10-modaco-com/
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
that's because there wasn't any flaming post on that arc thread except for trip's fanboys' posts & most of them contained foul language

if it was anything personal he should have gotten banned a long time ago, mods were actually too kind & patient with him
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
thanks for that mate much appreciated
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
what the hell...is wolf planning to move too?

http://android.modaco.com/content/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-x10-modaco-com/340638/rom-21-05-xperia-tw-006-cm6-tweaked-theme-extras/

why!??!
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
not willing to work on updates? do you have a x10? trip was the most active dev of all! updating most days.i dont agree with the language but still talk about biting the hand that feeds you! your post sounds more like a personal vendetta rather than a mods opinion which should be totally unbiast. in the interest of the forum and x10 owners banning trip was a mistake imo if im allowed that?
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
OK, thanks for telling it me! :) Didn't expect it :p
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
OK i worded it wrong ill go back and fix it
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
and as far as me having a personal vendetta

im going to look at his posts and see what rules he broke and how many times

including a censored list of rude attacks just so you can see what we have to deal with

about a fellow member

"o no gaylord is joining to!

was wondering when you showed up

your so horrible"

about the volunteer moderating team

"moderators @ xda sucks *******

very very very very very mature to just close topics where we aint seeing some copycat work or arse licking thiefs!

your marvelous! very decent moderators, very decent!"

About his decision to leave XDA

"I was to soon, after all null**** what i read today its done. Tonight when i'm home i'm going to say the last thing about all that crap. Check my Gingerbread topic for info about how to get the roms."

yet another attack on another member

"LOL look at that asshole! What buttkisser! He as OP just start flamewars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This rom is so full ****! Allready this rom bricked 4 phones this dev is really bad

Ps. reporting that also"

This is him politely asking someone what happened to a thread

""Where the f**k did my thread go this time!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you do this *****???????

Again another attack at the moderators

"They removed my thread!!!! Because of cobrato a**e lickin fanboys. We are alowed to do the same to them also. Equal rights "

all these are infractionable, but we never infractionate all the time cause were nice like that

so technically he should have been banned the last time he went crazy
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
I've been "attacked" by Trip and fanboys one too many times these past few months

and you could easily see that I NEVER used foul language in any of my posts.

And the reason is that, above all, I respect myself too much to sink that low.

All I did was report bugs in a discreet way -no whining or bashing-

and there are even a number of posts where I positively express my appreciation for Trip's skills.

What I never liked, or understood for that matter, was the "You are god Trip, I love you" posts.

To be fair, if I were in Trip's shoes, maybe I would act arrogantly too,

with all those members feeding my ego.

All I am saying is that this is a development community,

which, in my point of view, means 2 things:

1) development, of course 2) bug reporting.

No one should be insulted for pointing out that something does not work or for providing a probable fix

to help the developer and the community.

And again, even though Trip's ROMs were great and popular,

he was not the hand that fed XDA, as someone said earlier.

There are millions of users and developers here, so this statement just can't be true.

And more specifically in the X10 forums, much before Trip even registered as a user,

recognised developers like J, Z and Bin4ry (I'm sure I'm forgetting some, so please forgive me),

who never threw tantrums or gathered an army of blood-thirsty fans around them,

achieved root after months of trial and error, discovered the exploit that made xrecovery possible and so much more.

Without them none of Trip's work would be even remotely doable.

And in further extend, outside our community, have you seen Cyanogen swearing and insulting

any of the thousands of users who report bugs -and not always in a constructive or polite manner?

Aren't there hundreds of ROMs based on his work? Have you ever once seen him throwing an ego-manic tantrum?

Anyway, long story short, my point is that Trip was not the corner-stone of X10 community.

It's certainly sad that he left and discontinued his contributions here,

his work was in many ways unique and admirable, but sometimes with his attitude, it just wasn't worth it after all.

Again, please, correct me if I am wrong.
[XPERIA X10 General] amus76:
That's so well said... we are a community means skills are not everything

BUT I'm in peace with everybody, and I have to say that his hacks were impressive
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Just because he might be a good dev doesn't mean that he should be exempt from the forum rules. The amount of insulting and degrading he has done, the amount of swearing, is pathetic and waaaay out of line.

The mods were extremely kind to let him stay, but finally justice has been done.

I don't care if he was god to you trip fanboys, he insulted everyone and thought of himself as god, and he got banned for breaking the rules. He got carried away too many times and never held his temper in check, it's his fault.
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
yeh dont get me wrong im not knocking at what you do because i understand that there has to be a level ground on the forum and im greatful for your input,its just a guy that puts that many hours in developin for free surely deserves more respect, if i was putting as much time in as he does and stayin awake till all hours for the benefit of other people and then some people decided to start slating my work id be annoyed and react too. some of his comments were out of order. imho i just think devs like trip who put all the time n work in like he does should be preserved. because now wolf is starting to spend more time at modaco too which is in no benefit to xda or x10 users at all.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
So your saying because he is a developer that makes him exempt from the rules you follow?

Is this they way XDA developers works, does it say the rules dont apply to developers?. are you saying i should ignore the administrator and the rules he set up because trip is a good dev?
[XPERIA X10 General] totalundone:
I've been spending less time in the dev's thread and even less time in Trip's threads (no real reason why, just have been spending less time with custom roms lately). So I might be a little off here. But it seems that he went off on *any* type of criticism, constructive or not. It's simple really, if your skin is that thin, then don't post on a public forum.

I've been reamed by journal reviewers (and at meetings) before (warranted or not). And it sucks. You really want to respond to everyone but you learn to ignore some people and respond 'positively'. And yes, even at the j.anderson type responses, lol. I've had people talk badly about my work and it's difficult to not respond to them but you *learn* not to respond to every little thing. Some people don't know what they're talking about and the best thing you can do is ignore them and continue with your work.

Honestly, if anyone else would have talked to others as Trip did, they would have been banned a long time ago. But because he's a good dev, the mods have been easier on him than anyone else. And it doesn't help that by acting the way he has, it makes things worse because now he's a lightning rod for stuff.
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
no im not saying that. but to just make him walk the plank so to speak after the hard work hes put in is unfair imo. i get where your coming from because without mods and rules this site would be frantic.im no trip fanboy in all honesty hes far from my fav person. but its 6 of 1 n half a dozen of the other i guess
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Which implies i should look the other way when he misbehaves. at the end of the day he broke the rules so many times that we could have banned him 3 times by now

so if anything weve actually been nicer to him than say j.anderson
[XPERIA X10 General] amus76:
In 2 hours...

Sent with my flushing toilet
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
Not only other people, such as members and moderators,

ought to respect Trip's work.

He himself has to respect it too.

And constantly breaking the rules of the forum

that freely hosted his work and made him as popular as he is today,

shows disrespect to his own self and work.

He was not the only one working for free. Every one here is.

He was no exception and he shouldn't be considered or treated as one.
[XPERIA X10 General] Tony84:
First of all people always forget that this a forum.of free collaboration and without respect it can't work. This is the second time it happens against trip's work, it's a Shame and we loose a great dev.
[XPERIA X10 General] pcfanboy142:
Let him get banned for a few years, maybe he'll go through puberty and be more considerate.
[XPERIA X10 General] poelier:
Crap, he is the one that keeps our x10 alive and updated!
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
He's not the only one to do that though.

Don't forget that other devs here did a good job on doing that.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Yes cause he was showing a great amount of respect by calling people gayboy wasn't he
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
The coin as always has two sides:

have you seen any other dev's thread causing this much trouble

around here? That has to indicate something.

Respect should be mutual. Trip should be held accountable for his actions,

no matter how good a developer he is.

I really don't understand why people refuse to acknowledge this.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Trip would not be pissed like this if some trolls didn't act the way they did.
[XPERIA X10 General] kozxmartt:
Given Trip's history, I beg to differ.
[XPERIA X10 General] poelier:
Not the only one, but most productive
[XPERIA X10 General] o0k00l:
This discussion will never end.. We are in condition that trip already gone from this forum... Lets finish this discussion now... lets hope some other Dev will provide ROM equalant to trip ROM ... Till then I am on tripnmiui 2.3.4 aka gingerbread...

Regards
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
The rules are clear about that: if there are trolls, you report them.

You do not sink to their level and start insulting and threatening.

Every time there was a bad troll, Trip became a 10x worst troll to his own thread.

His self-destructiveness was obvious to any objective observer.

He brought everything to himself and that is sad.

Besides, trust me, Trip was not only pissed at trolls.

He was upset when someone said that something doesn't work,

he was particularly upset at Cobrato, who -God forbid!-

offered his help by providing fixes.

His baseband patch was widely used by many members, including me, for months.

If it weren't for that I wouldn't be able to send an SMS longer than 160 characters,

as baseband .49 was malfunctioning on my phone. I need baseband .54+

thus if it weren't for that patch, I wouldn't be using Trip's ROM at all.

I know for a fact that this was the case for many users.

And then in his latest release, keyboard and WiFi didn't work and Cobrato rightly

pointed out that if these two don't function, you can't really test the ROM

(you can't login to your Google Account, you can't write an SMS, you can't browse the internet, etc etc...).

And here comes the most interesting part... Trip is now "allowing" users to use Cobrato's fix (post #244),

he even encourages it, so that he can have time to work on his GB ROM.

Now, that was what Cobrato wanted from the start, right?

To help him with something minor so that he can be focused on his big updates.

So, I believe that common sense is against Trip's behavior once again.
[XPERIA X10 General] Tony84:
You're right, he also didn't show respect to others, that's right, BUT he wouldn't have started if some people showed a little bit of intelligence and education first to him. It's normal then that a guy can become a little bit angry, no?

And after that all kind of words are said from both the sides, but it's a consequence of who has started.

Saying so I don't wonna defend anyone, but it's 2 times that this happens because of certain people.
[XPERIA X10 General] pcfanboy142:
He's a good dev and all, but he has attitude problems and he acts immature. That's the sort of vibe i get from him.
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
If you read my post above yours, you'll see that Trip did not get angry only

at "un-intelligent and un-educated" members, like you say.

And we can't really know who started it, because his fanboys were always

speaking ill of anyone who wasn't praising Trip as our lord and saviour. :p

So, either it was Trip, either the fans, either the trolls, with him out, problem solved. Unfortunately, it was the only way.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
i agree he can get angry. however the rules say he is to report those trolls. so what you mean is thats two times he reacted stupidly to asinine comments

if hes so intelligent, why didnt he report to the moderators like the rules state he has to
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
I have reported severals trolls, but mods doesn't react agsinst them. I see them keep flaming others without mods do ANYTHING about it.

So whats the point to report this trolls?
[XPERIA X10 General] Tony84:
yes what you say is true, it could be finished in 5 seconds doing like this..

ok now let's close the discussion, what is done is done ^^
[XPERIA X10 General] pulser_g2:
Can we seriously not keep one single thread going for more than an hour without people flaming or trolling?

First person to swear, troll, flame, or otherwise break the rules has earned a 6 month vacation...

Go on... I dare you.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mister J:
Please, I'm just a boy!!!!

Seriously though, Trip is a great developer, and I think he has had a ban long overdue. I actually stopped using his rom due to his attitude and disrespect to other members.

BUT please, someone tell me they found out how trip did his little tweaks and such? His roms had AWESOME battery life and was smooth. Did any dev find out what he was doing right? He had very well built roms, and its a shame he had the maturity of a 12 year old girl.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkp1977:
So the makers of Shazam decided to make a so called premium app which comes for $5.99. It features unlimited tagging, lyrics, biography, discography, directly purchasing through the marketplace, watching YouTube videos related to the tagged songs and that's pretty much about it.

First I was like "wtf? What tagging limit?". Then I saw and installed the update that came for free Shazam today. And guess what. Tagging is now limited to 5 times a month. Not to mention that the free version of course doesn't offer any of the goodies the premium version comes shipped with. Premium doesn't even have a trial to check out if these additional features are really worth the price. And oh.. If you update your free copy of Shazam, you'll quickly notice that it disappeared from the apps list, just to be found in the games hub now. What the heck? Since when do music related apps belong there?

Shazam Encore, which the premium app is correctly named, doesn't even integrate in the Zune hub, which in my opinion would make sense.

What do you guys think about what Shazam is pulling off there? Is this restricted to WP7 only? Or does it affect iOS and Android apps as well?