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[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
Um, no. That would be news to the CM team on TP. They did the first GB android for TP about 5 months ago and they say HP didn't give them anything. The CM team cracked the bootloader for TP in October. They didnt get any help from HP. Similarly to the bootloader: for the accidentally leaked android code they had to get a lawyer and after initial existential denials HP finally released the code to their lawyer only a few weeks ago still holding back parts. Maybe their bootloader was unlocked or locked but the CM team did everything on their own and got nothing from HP for GB/ICS releases for the bootloader or the device drivers or android. Secondly even if TP bootloader was not encrypted and PB is, the wise never say never and there might be a first time. There were people saying PB will never get rooted or get the full android market and we see how wrong they were. Thirdly as I quoted the dingleberry team are making provisions for altering the base firmware load and Chris has been saying RIM will be in for another shock when the time comes.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Magnesus:
For me - a lot of things. Maybe you could help resolve some of them.

- There doesn't seem to any useful applications and games in the AppWorld and if there are they cost a lot (and I can't buy them once for my tablet and phone like I do on Android),

- only 50% of converted Android apps seem to work, the rest force closes (Kindle for example),

- No games using NDK are convertable,

- There is no Google Chrome Beta which I really like, and the normal browser is quite limited and I don't like how you have to swipe to see the tabs,

- I don't like the swiping to see menu and options or even the clock,

- I haven't found any application that allows taking written notes (like WritePad Stylues or ezPDF on Android - ezPDF doesn't work after conversion).

- I haven't found any application for writing on PDFs (ezPDF doesn't work),

- it's very hard to do anything with QNX from Ubuntu (no massive storage, I copy files through WiFi because of that which is slow or use Virtual Machine with Windows for sideloading Android converted bars which is not comfortable),

- I didn't find a way to change the keyboard,

- there doesn't seem to be a way to have a weather widget,

- there doesn't seem to be any GPS Navigation for my country,

- I found only ONE RSS reader for Google Reader (GeeReader) - and I don't like it,

- Snes9x is harder to use than on Android (doesn't seem to have a menu to select ROM),

- browsing files is limited.

I also have Asus Transformer with ICS and in comparison the Playbook is a toy without much things to play with.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
I agree with you here, though there are some fun games. Granted they aren't cheap.. but you can find them elsewhere. The Appworld is very dead, however that's a RIM issue not an QNX issue.

Kindle is known to be working, there are links over on crack berry. I probably have a <50% success rate, but 90% of what I convert is games, so it's not that surprising. However, I find more often than not, baked in protection to the APK is more preventative than anything.

Not sure what you mean, like they can't be signed? So far all apps have converted for me, but I can't sign some.

I have an Atrix so I've never used Chrome on Android, also it's 4.0 dependant and the Playbooks emulator is only running 2.3.3. Use dolphin for tabs, it's free and actually in the App World. Though I find it has flash related issues, probably due to the android environment.

That's a personal opinion, I prefer it hidden, and it's easy to do a quick corner swipe to check notifications and time, also I prefer the hidden options

Can't help you here, do you mean like an overlay of writing? Or do you mean just creating them? I've never done anything like this even on my phone, seems like a developer issue over QNX

I use Windows7 as a primary thing, that sounds more like a RIM not supporting Linux properly issue.

As far as I know it's baked into the OS and cannot be changed without root access.

Do you mean in QNX or in Android?

As far as I know all GPS at this point uses your WIFI location so I am not sure why this is an issue.

These come down to App issues not QNX, as for browsing Files.. I've had no issue using Air Browser, aswell as ESFileManager for android (converted), there are also a bunch of really good file managers with built in dropbox, docs, etc.

The thing to remember is you are comparing the 4th iteration of Android with something that runs a 2nd iteration in a very crippled.. fake way. You need to remember that a lot of the issues you are seeing are less OS related, and more you are trying to do things with it that were designed for another OS. It's like when Safari came out for windows, it looked super out of place, crashed a lot, and had crazy issues.

While I admit QNX isn't perfect, you need to keep in mind, it's a lack of interest in the OS that is causing much of what you are seeing.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] cyberhern:
Finally you get to the ROOT of the issue!

Most using Playbook would rather boot into an Android OS.

The tablet hardware is okay and now the unit is cheap.

It could be a fun "little tab" with an all-grown-up 4gen OS

You know like...

Android specifically like CM7 or CM9 Can you say apps?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Magnesus:
Yes, and it's not working. Probably beacuse I have updated to 2.0? (no choice on that front anyway - I was forced to updated when I first turned the device on).

NDK is native code. Most games use it (because of performance) and you can't convert APK that uses NDK for Blackberry. (that probably caused your worse conversion rate). That is also the reason I can't submit more of my Android games to Blackberry AppWorld - they use NDK.

I mean writing notes with stylus. If ezPDF worked that would be posibble, but doesn't seem to work on 2.0 (people report it working on erlier versions).

RIM doesn't support Linux in ANY way. There is even no way to copy files to the device (apart from over WiFi by Samba) without cumbersome third party applications.

QNX of course. It doesn't seem to have any widgets capability.

There is no navigation software for my country. GPS works but I can't use it on the road without navigation software with maps of my country (offline). I could try converting Sygic or sth similar but it's a lot of work (and I'm not sure it's legal - I bought it for Android, but not for Blackberry).

The point I was trying to make is - If I bought Blackberry Playbook I would return it very fast. So I understand why it didn't sell that well. Since I got it for "free" I'm trying to make it work at least so my sister can use it for school - but some things are still missing (ezPDF being the biggest of them).

They are OS related because if I could install Android ICS on Playbook I wouldn't have any of those problems.

I would say the lack of interest is for a reason. For developers writing apps for QNX the enviroment is very clunky (because of overly secure process for example), OS dependend (no support for Linux) and you can't be sure what will change soon - for example they say Qt will be there in the future, at the same time they discontinued Java though they said there will be Java Player it does seem to be no longer planned. For normal users the tablet doesn't have anything if you don't know how to convert and sideload (which is very hard!).

Sorry for such long reply that is probably offtopic. I hope root will come to 2.0 one day...
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
ezPDF does not work, can not remember if Repligo does verlay notes, works sometimes crahses others. Also the best RSSreader is gReader Pro which works as I convert the latest ones into BARs. Basically it does not matter if QNX is good like WebOS. I personally think QNX & WebOS are better than iOS & Android but that is irrelevant. Android & iOS have several hundred thousands of apps each AND a significant global share of user basis (like MS windows & Apple) but QNX is basically dead man walking because it has not got the APPS NUMBERS or the significant GLOBAL USER BASIS WHICH IS NECESSARY FOR ANY OS TO SURVIVE. So a few enjoy it's gardenwalled restricted environment and a few apps but it will be obsolete and dead and a minority thing and finally axed and limited to defence vehicles as is now. WebOS however will have a mini future comapred to the big beasts like MS Win/iOS/Android with massive future as it has gone open source like linux flavors such as ubuntu etc. QNX, regardless of it's potential, is a global commercial oddity now, it will then die.

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Also for note taking I use Extensive Note Pro on my other android tablets and as a BAR works on PB too. The other android note apps convert OK too, well most of them. Also the file managers on PB are garbage as mentioned. Try a dual pane one like the free android ghost commander converted to BAR or like me I converted the free dual pane old style programmer fave: Total Commander for android (google it) which also works as bar. Basically I just use android apps, not QNX, on PB from the full android market on my rooted OS2beta or convert APKs to BARs. Couple of problems not mentioned, only one android app can be run at a time and then when you close it it returns to my ICS launcher (can not even switch between an app and android launcher but have to close the damn app to see the launcher) PLUS many apps do not work or have certain functions not working PLUS when an android crashes as it often does on PB you have to wait 10 minutes to launch another android app or reboot. 3 big problems with running an android app. I will wait some months and if no dual boot android forthcoming will sell it as someone else said here.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
I haven't downloaded it yet, but on crackberry people with latest 2.0 and latest kindle report no problems, I'll try it later today and post the .bar if it works.

I can convert all apps, it's probably the ndk ones that don't run though. That would come down to libraries over anything wouldn't it?

Didn't even know that was possible, never something I had done, I am sure there are alternatives somewhere though.

yet their OS is based on Linux haha, I'd be contacting RIM over that one.

I don't think the QNX Screen is designed for them to be honest. You have a dock, and app drawer, and a pane for running apps. The entire shell isn't made for Widgets

You can get Google Maps w/ NAV for official 2.0, it's a converted APK but it works, I use it on mine. Not sure that will do what you want though.

I guess it comes down to what you use it for. I use my to stream video, music, browse the web, and play games. All of which work great.

That's fair, again depends on what you use it for.

My boss bought a playbook and he is a standard user, I told him about sideloading and he looked at me with a blank stare. He uses it for Video, Web, Email, etc so everything that DOES come with the playbook.

From what I know.. 2.0 (Official) is very tricky. I've been following news on CB, I had a couple thoughts, not sure if they will pan out but basically..

The FS is no longer mounted with the setuid, so it can't be elevated to have special permissions for root. What's set is set. Samba, and SSH are no longer started as the root user, instead by the standard SSH user which lacks root priveleges. Because the FS can't be escalated, and the apps are run as the standard user, and root was disabled for SSH you can't login as root anymore.

The trick will be finding out a way to either remount the system, or find some way to escalate the access while being in the locked FS. The best chance of this I see is to CFW it, modify the FS to mount with the setuid and setguid, and have ssh and samba to be started as root.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
omg i got my PB today and the tablet is amazing, i just hate the OS please please please somebody get android on this thing.

If RIM create dual boot functionallity then this would be a fantastic bit of kit, as it is the only thing i can do on it is browse.

watching films i own is too much hassle as if any are encoded in AC3 sound (most of em are) then i get no sound and have to convert them which is very tedious.

for the love of god why is it such a massive pain in the arse to stream films you own to any tablet ?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] marty331:
Got the email that my PB is to be shipped tomorrow. I played with a PB last week and the OS is horrible. I really hope there is a way to figure out how to bust this sucker open and put some ICS on it.

I have the Fire but there is no ff camera, so no video chat with the family when I'm travleing. The PB will be a good fix.....if only.....
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
Hey. Did you all see the new RIM keyboard case that is coming out for the playbook soon? I saw it on crackberry's website. You all must see the video of it too. It should be on the first page.

Sent from my ATRIX using the Premium XDA App
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
i got my dad a pb as well and Video chat is really good.

im getting used to the OS but theres no way to share anything, i like takin pics of stupid things and posting them directly to twitter but you cant do it.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] LuigiC6:
You could get the app "PicShop." It has all the sharing capabilities, and allows you to edit photos. It was 99 cents at release, but I think it's 4.99 now, which is unfortunate, especially since this kind of functionality should have been included with the Playbook right from the start.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
There may be an android app that would let you do that? Not sure though.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
RIM could really kick tablet arse if they just relaxed a bit and stopped being so stuffy and snobby and give us the same features that all tablet and phone owners have become used to.

features id love to see an d would make this tablet the best would be

a decent twitter app ( im using Blaq but its a bit clunky)

All google Apps

Native Sharing

Widgets :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] marty331:
You forgot one - Native Android.

CM7 Infuse - XDA Premium
[Miscellaneous Android Development] firey21:
Eh.. don't need Native Android, I really like QNX.. the problem is the lack of apps for it. If we had support for all android apps (meaning we had a kernel, or ndk was present, if it didn't crash out all the time) I would be fine with that. The only reason I would "Boot into Android" would be to run android apps. If I could continue to do that in QNX (Run apps) it would be perfect if they all worked properly.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
#

it would be nice to have a choice, if you dont want Android dont have android.

i noticed this today http://www.itproportal.com/2012/03/14/blackberry-playbook-to-get-bb10-os/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] marty331:
I got my playbook in today. Now it's time to start working on a way to crack it open!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wozhere:
bb10/os2 without half a million of android apps running nicely & fully functional (unlike now) in multi task (multi android apps) as in any crappy cheap android chinapad, yeah like a nice car with square wheels. Pointless hype which RIM is fooling itself into bankruptcy or hostile takeover leading to end of its tablet division. Check the used prices of PB locally, dropping like a useless stone. That is reality which will be crystal clear by the end of year when it will all end, badly. Tablet for Flintstones, doomed to follow T-rex & dodo into extinction.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Magnesus:
To be honest, I've seen some "chinapads" and they were more functional than Playbook despite having worse hardware.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] cyberhern:
Okay new count today is Blackberry Playbook	1,313
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
i cant even get on XDA website with my playbook cos it just crashes it :(
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
Have you cleared the caches, history, and cookie stuff in a while? Reboot?

I can get it to work on mine.

Sent from my ATRIX using the Premium XDA App
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
its the fromt page that does it, ill try clearing everything :)

http://www.xda-developers.com/

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Thx mate its working now :)

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Omg I turned off javascript and my browser is rapid :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] civilization:
is there any use for root on PlayBook?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bruce Lee:
Yes there WAS until blackberry updated the firmware and now you can't. I know a few people at www.crackberry.com are working on it. Crackberry is a great site for info on the Playbook.

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[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
Why didnt anyone tell me about this, OMG i got all my fav apps on my playbook now and its quick and easy.

Watch here :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA1GS44yjDQ&feature=related
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Dynamo Nath:
I went into PC World today to buy a playbook and the guy told me you could only sign up for a blackberry account if you had a blackberry phone. True or false?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] efrant:
Depends on what you mean by a Blackberry account. To sign up for a BIS/BES account, you need a Blackberry phone (at least in Canada you do). To sign up for a App World account, you do not need a Blackberry phone.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Dynamo Nath:
It would be just the basic account to access the app store such as it is.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] efrant:
Like I said in my previous post: to sign up for an App World account (i.e., the apps store), you do not need a Blackberry phone.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Dynamo Nath:
Cool, thanks. I had a feeling the guy was talking from his arse but wasn't 100% :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] efrant:
He may have thought you were referring to a Blackberry account (i.e., an email account, BIS/BES), and not an App World account.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Dynamo Nath:
I did clearly specify to him that I didn't have and would be unlikely to get a BlackBerry. Does that mean I won't be able to use the email unless it's a BlackBerry one? I'm not even sure what BIS/BES is :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] efrant:
To tell you the truth, I have yet to open the email app on the Playbook, so I can't confirm for you. But certainly on my Blackberry, in order to use the built-in email app, you need to either have a BIS account (Blackberry internet service), or have your device activated on a BES (Blackberry enterprise server). If you do not, you cannot use the built-in email client (nor the built-in browser, nor any Blackberry app).
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
Total Bollocks, ive not got a blackberry phone and i get email fine, both Gmail and Virginmedia emails work fine :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] efrant:
I think you are missing the point. The OP has said that the sales rep said: "you could only sign up for a blackberry account if you had a blackberry phone". I believe this is true, as you need a Blackberry to sign up for a blackberry account (i.e., a BIS email account). Not sure if it can be done with a Playbook. He is NOT talking about getting Gmail or any other email working on a Playbook. Of course that works...
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Dynamo Nath:
Ok, so I went ahead and ordered one. Should be here tomorrow! Squeeeeeee!

Can the front facing camera be used for face time type video calls?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
Yeah but at the minute its only PlayBook to PlayBook but I think Skype for PlayBook is in the pipeline.

I also spoke to a Playbook Dev and he said theres an update coming soon that will impress all PlayBook users :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Dynamo Nath:
That's a shame, but fingers crossed for a Skype app.

Ooo, I'm intrigued! :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Dynamo Nath:
So it arrived last night and whilst it's a nice bit of kit I still feel a bit under whelmed by it; I think my gadget lust overtook my common sense. I sat looking at it thinking, what am I going to do with it now.

On a side note, both the native browser and dolphin both hate this forum; they both just freeze and never finish loading a page.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
Hopefully this update will fix a few things, when and if it arrives that is :(
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BackDaws:
Still no update, Sigh :(

and im having to restore from a backup because for some reason half of my apps have disappeared, they are still installed in App world though :(
[General Questions and Answers] cspirop:
Hi ,

I own Htc Desire with froyo 2.2 version sense

I wanted months now to root my device but I was afraid of losing warranty, but now I want to do it. But I have some questions

1.In all sites they talk about HBOOT 0.75 OR 0.83 my device have 0.93 version. would be able to do it with unrevoked method or it will crash?

2.Unrevoled methood what exactly does? It keeps the rom you already have but becomes rooted?

3. For being able to have another rom flashed i must do the S-OFF procedure no matter what?

4. In XDA-DEVELOPERS site I see some roms called PRE-ROOTED and ROOTED. What is the difference? and which of the 2 i should flash in my already rooted device?

5.If i decide to do unroot how i can manage to do that?

Sorry for all questions but i am newbie in android

Thank you in advance
[HTC Inspire 4G] asjones91:
Hey xda¡ i an a new inspire owner and I love the hardware. I also rooted my phone and am s happy user of inspired aosp rc1. But development has stopped. What is the best rom for the same experience ?
[HTC Inspire 4G] cableguychad:
Inspired Ace made by the same dev for Sense. GingerBeast which I'm using is amost the same the one your using currently.
[HTC Inspire 4G] di11igaf:
Theres only 1 more option unless you go cm7-see sig
[HTC Inspire 4G] homeslice976:
I'm running TPGB (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1066978) which was built off of CM7, but most of the CM7 additions have been ripped out. It's a smooth ROM
[HTC Inspire 4G] tribalartgod:
GingerBeast all the way.

Currently at 86 hours and 9 minutes uptime.

That means it's been that long since I last rebooted.

Extremely stable, no FC's. :-)
[HTC Inspire 4G] zole2112:
I tried GingerBeast, it was nice but I went back to TPGB..personal preference.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Tx Redneck:
One moar for Gingerbeast. Rock solid, stable, fast and it just works. ;)

Tx
[HTC Inspire 4G] p4ranoid4ndroid:
Inspired AOSP is awesome. I gave this a shot before Gingerbeast just cause it seemed more AOSP (non-cm7 base). Once I get tired of that I plan on giving Gingerbeast a go. But Inspired AOSP is very clean and smooth
[HTC Inspire 4G] proof2006:
look no further
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hypercore:
Do Super AMOLED screens use battery power whilst displaying black?

I've heard this before and it makes sense considering the Nexus S was the first 2.3 phone (which has SAMOLED) and 2.3 is nearly all black.

So, if I were to change 99% of the things on the screen to black, would it technically not use as much power? Is it even worth making everything black or is the amount of power saved not very much?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt2053:
Amoled display uses far less power to display black than to display color or white.

When the display is on it still uses battery. But you might notice some small battery savings if everything is black. I always use black wallpaper for this reason, plus I like how it looks.