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[Thunderbolt General] lippstuh:
ip4, u're holding it wrong.

thunderbolt, u're rooting it wrong.
[Thunderbolt General] eccenpix:
i don't get it heh
[Thunderbolt General] weezin9980:
never had an issue on my end. a few minor gliches running CM7 beta... but its a beta. i got the extended battery. made a world of difference. it will hold me over until slahyer updates the rom
[Thunderbolt General] compnird:
I've owned smartphones since the early days of smartphones. They certainly aren't for everyone and some prefer the iPhone because it's so darn easy.

I say more power to them, they are easy to use as devices go and actually very, VERY stable as electronics go.

It's just not for me because I like to customize my devices and enjoy things like ClockworkMod to backup my device down to the bit level, Titanium Backup for app specific backups and Google services (Google voice, Google Talk, Google calendar and soon to come Google Music) which are actually available on the iphone as well these days.

Sorry the ThunderBolt didn't workout for the OP, it's working great for me other than having to reboot every couple of days. I love the speed of LTE when I have signal for it and I'll buy a Charge when it hits (Solely for the SAMOLED+ screen)and will consider the other LTE devices as they come to market. I hope they are a little more stable than the TB but these are a LOT better than the old WinMo phones us old farts used to use back in the ancient days.
[Thunderbolt General] Immolate:
That's no beta... that's a space station! (pre-alpha)
[Thunderbolt General] Makaveli1490:
Good luck to you
[Thunderbolt General] nerozehl:
Sorry to hear your phone got jacked up... I guess this baby just isn't for everyone.
[Thunderbolt General] system6:
In the last 12 months I have owned a Palm Pre, Nexus one, HTC Evo, iPhone, Droid X, G2X, and the Thunderbolt. So far, this phone is INCREDIBLY stable, reliable, has a FANTASTIC form factor. (Minus the placement of the charger placement and the lack of speakers not covered by the kickstand)

I am INCREDIBLY happy and think I have found a phone I will actually stick with for several months at the very least.

I do not have 4G service where I live, but the WI-FI is very powerful and 3G is reasonable. The battery life is no better/Worse than my iPhone/EVO IRL... I don't care what tech specs say. I was afraid to get this phone because of the battery life reporting.

Between my moms Samsung galaxy, My wife's G2X, and my Thunderbolt....I'm doing just fine.
[Thunderbolt General] topxshelfxtre:
Had the Tbolt since released.....Great service decent battery life did you try more then one Tbolt coulda been a bad phone....or bad luck
[Thunderbolt General] angry english:
yeah ill be back with an android one way or another, and for the dicks on here who seem to think they are somebody, go shake your F*kin heads you idiots, it states quite clearly why i had to get rid of the phone, not because it was a f`up on rooting, not because i didnt know what i was doing, it was because i use 3 batteries a day because of work and when in my office or apartment i get no signal after yesterdays update! your worse than sony and xbox fanboys

you tools are whats wrong with XDA, some people are great on here, then there is the few that think there something they obviously aint, like big f*king kids, grow up you mongs
[Thunderbolt General] BryanP:
I had no data about a week after I got it. Switched the radio to 3g only via diagnostics and its been solid ever since. (no 4g where I live) slahyer's cm7 is a DD for me.

Used an iphone for a few months after my winmo phone died. Even with a custom ipsw I was still butting up against apple design choices. Hope your someone who can enjoy what it offers and not worry about what it could do.
[Thunderbolt General] OneStepAhead:
Why not just rough it out for a couple more days until the Charge was released? Or if you were going to get the 3g iphone why not get the droid inc 2? Also the bionic has not been canceled, it's just delayed until Q3.
[Thunderbolt General] OneStepAhead:
Is that the order you had the phones in? If so please explain going from Evo to iPhone to DX? 2 downgrades in a row? Seems odd... but you obviously have a bit of a problem haha :)
[Thunderbolt General] joshnichols189:
If you really were rooted with bad signal you would have flashed one of the many other radios you have to choose from.. especially if your signal got worse one would think this would be the first thing to do.......
[Thunderbolt General] angry english:
Your battery is no worse than it was on your iphone? i find that hard to believe, im a heavy users for business, spend 3-4 hours a day on calls, 100 or so emails 100 or so texts, gps and internet and i was lucky to get 2 and a half hours per battery hence why had 3 batteries on the go, i was gonna go for the charge, but the guy said it isnt coming out and has been put back to no date set.

Dont get me Wrong i loved the speed of the TB and the big Screen, sound quality was good also for music with my bose earbuds, i also had the TB replaced twice in 3 weeks incase you are thinking it was a duff phone, it wasnt, just that this phone dont do great in some area`s especially with penetration of walls..

I`ll be back to the Android system next week anyways.... just ordered myself a Xoom this morning from Verizon, so best of both worlds right now
[Thunderbolt General] angry english:
......... 1st things i had tried, ok lets end this "you should have done this, that and the other" or "you must have not done this that or the other"

i tried 3 RADIOS, i tried 3 ROMS with different KERNELS, NONE OF IT HELPED!!!! its not my 1st time with an android phone, i was flashing and dicking with my Galaxy S everyday

People need to stop with the assumption BS

Sadly this phone didnt work for me, nor did it work for 6 of my Employee`s, not a coincidence, just one of those things
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
Have fun with the iPhone.
[Thunderbolt General] eraursls1984:
How is that two downgrades in a row? The X is the best of those three phones except not having 4g like the evo (even though Sprint 4g is a joke) I downgraded from the X to the thunderbolt just for 4g, I like the thunderbolt other than two major problems (one of which is fixed by CM7 alpha, can't wait for the real release) but the X is a solid phone
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
Lol... downgrade from the X....
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
Be honest though. You are talking about how the Thunderbolt isn't a good phone (for your needs, and what you want to do, not that is just a POS in general), posting this in a Thunderbolt forum, where a bunch of people love the phone. What did you honestly expect to happen.

If i went into an iPhone forum and said that the iPhone doesn't suit my needs and the TB was a superior device to it, I would get flamed there too, the same way you did here.

It's like going to a Hell's Angels bar with your Suzuki GSX-R jacket on :eek:
[Thunderbolt General] Pzyborg:
But that is just his point! Too many f'ing people on here acting like children when it comes to brand loyalty. It's extremely foolish. He came on here to state how the phone isn't working for him and you guys flamed him as if you designed the damn thing! This happens a lot here, you spend your money on a device and naturally you want it to be worthy, then when problems develop some owners get frustrated and complain while others get defensive and bash. This person came on what he thought was a friendly forum to tell his story and he got bashed simply for telling his story and stating his opinion. It is the very reason why I listen more and post less.
[Thunderbolt General] angry english:
The thing is, the TB is the superior device, what i was getting at is that the phone seems to have poor signal and obviously crap battery, if the signal issue could have been fixed i know i would have kept mine, i wouldnt have bought the extra batteries otherwise, i was pointing out why i had to return it as in feedback, people get way to uptight around here lol, im nearly 40 years old, not in it for the drama, like i said people need to grow up, now if i had said this TB is a great big steaming pile of crap and i spit on it , id rather have a sciphone, then yeah id understand the flaming..

Anyways, the hells angels line was funny lmao
[Thunderbolt General] angry english:
Actually F**k it lets all play pretend that the TB has no faults at all and its the worlds most perfect handset....... because thats what we spent our cash on and we cant have something you guys spent money on not being perfect can we...... otherwise you seem to stamp your feet like a 4 year old, and defend your PHONE like its your family

Seriously, Come on, lmao
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
It is foolish, but this is the internet. And sadly expecting people to act like adults on the internet has become foolish in it's own right :(
[Thunderbolt General] Snap Jackel Pop:
You're simply posting this here because you need justification. You don't want to feel like you're the only one out there who couldn't make it work.

Its not your fault. And that's why Steve jobs made the iphone. Its easy and it works for everyone.

So enjoy!

Loving my t-bolt still!
[Thunderbolt General] angry english:
oh look another XDA asshole :)

Nice to meet you bro :)
[Thunderbolt General] ckochinsky125:
The update caused issues with my phone also and the build quality seems to be lacking. I got sent a replacement and as soon as I got it the screen is peeling away from the body of the phone. They are sending me another and if it has issues I will see if they will give me a new phone since this will be my 4th thunderbolt already. Verizon is really screwing up they need to get their **** together.
[Thunderbolt General] Pzyborg:
But buddy you were flaming too! You even insulted the OP! What was the purpose in that?! Are you defending your childishness? Internet or not, some of us really need to grow up.
[Thunderbolt General] midnight assassin:
Angry English,

FYI, the CHARGE will be available tomorrow.
[Thunderbolt General] kriskmk:
Please tell me you mean the screen protector and not the actual screen.
[Thunderbolt General] ska.t73:
Angry, you are more the welcome to your opinion. Don't like the phone, that's fine you clearly have your reasons. The only reason root anything was brought up is because you said you did the OTA on your rooted phone, that is a no no and has been known to cause issues.

Again though if you don't like the phone, then you are welcome to that opinion.
[Thunderbolt General] ilovebbq:
i wonder if you have a parallel thread somewhere in some iphone forum

"i got the new white iphone4! omg, i hate that pos tbolt what a joke of a phone . thank gawd they took it back kekekeke"
[Thunderbolt General] midnight assassin:
About time for mods to close this thread.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
It's called trolling... and winning, duh!
[Thunderbolt General] angry english:
Obviously i unrooted 1st......

Jesus, i was hoping that this would improve my signal, it was worth possibly loosing root to have a phone that worked

why dont you people think of that before you all decide i did something wrong lmao

"its not the perfect phone that loses signal, or has bad battery, its him he`s doing it wrong"...... seriously
[Thunderbolt General] angry english:
i also wonder how you was the fastest sperm to the egg, god only knows how idiotic your siblings would be

oh wait dont tell me....... its because i dont root correctly, or i didnt flash the right rom, or and didnt try a new radio, or because i updated the OTA while still rooted....or i didnt try sticking my **** in it to give it some love

STFU, yeah close this thread whenever you like, im sick of arguing with losers, in my opening post not once did i say anywhere that this phone was a POS, and i even said i would buy one again if they fix the issue`s, you people are blind and see what you wanna see only, as ive said before, there are some great guys here, usually the devs, its the ass lickers that are usually the problem, and thats what most of you are, who flame other people for no reason, high and mighty`s thinking your the ****, your not the ****, your retards who dont read and get offended when someone says your phone aint perfect
[Thunderbolt General] MisterDonut:
Why is everyone here so angry, when someone doesn't like the Tbolt.

I'm have a Tbolt, and it really isn't my dream phone. It rocked everything that i have ever used, but it didn't come with out having its own sacrifices.

With that said. 4g really did surpassed my dream and rocked my world. It feels like having high speed internet for the very first time. 4g was the make or break for me, I guess tbolt captured lighting in a bottle, 4g.

If a piece of paper would give me 4g.. rest assure i would be using the piece of paper.
[Thunderbolt General] madzozs:
I could care less either way honestly. My phone works and I enjoy it greatly.

BUT.....

When you start the thread saying that after you did the OTA it stopped working properly, and you didn't give any info about kernels, whether you had rooted and tried to update while rooted, rom, or anything that might be important to the situation at hand, people are going to speculate you screwed something up. Now that you have said what you did/tried and it didn't work, there is no speculation.
[Thunderbolt General] :
OP also posted in another thread that his/her phone was rooted when tried the OTA.
[Thunderbolt General] angry english:
Did i really? where is that post, lets see it then, god you ****ing fool, i said i was rooted when when it was downloading, another idiot reading things then making something up completely, i also said it put my phone in 1x... you think i was gonna sit there and wait for 1x dl speeds

you mean that post? the one it says i was downloading at 1x while still rooted? ****off buddy
[Thunderbolt General] Mean Bro Greene:
This thread wins over 9000 internets.
[Thunderbolt General] kriskmk:
where is the moderator when you need one??
[Thunderbolt General] mthe0ry:
I get 4g where I am (metro houston) basically all the time.

Battery is an issue, but I knew that when I bought it and I got what I wanted from this phone: unlimited data, 4g speeds, and hotspot. The hotspot has turned out so effective I have no need for home internet.

If the iphone 4 suits you better, great.
[Thunderbolt General] ska.t73:
Dude, chill... I was actually on your side! However after seeing your last few post forget it. You didn't say that you unrooted first, I was simply trying to point out WHY people blamed it on the root thing, not once did I say you were stupid or anything like that...

Have a nice life and enjoy whatever phone you get.
[Thunderbolt General] monolithic:
Why do you even bother to click on these feckin' threads then, dbisch? I went back through your post history on here and you're frequently being a douche-bag to people, while holding an over-inflated opinion of your own self-worth and a sanctimonious attitude.

How about you not click on these thread titles if you dont "give a ****"?

Again, you have an over-inflated opinion of your own self-worth on here.
[Thunderbolt General] monolithic:
I agree completely. A lot of immaturity on here. Degrades the quality of the forums. If someone doesn't like the thread topic and it's a half-way descriptive thread-topic, don't click on it.

I don't understand why people would waste their valuable time clicking on something they're not interested in. Unless of course, their time isn't valuable.
[Thunderbolt General] MisterDonut:
Angry What are you so Mad? the update is suppose to help your phone.. not give you a ****ing blowjob. you douche
[Thunderbolt General] :
Probably enjoying this thread as much as the rest of us. I'm sure the OP started this thread hoping for a fight.
[Thunderbolt General] bghed32:
isnt it amazing i live in the exact town and have not had one issue with signal anywhere and most Gms phone suffer from interference from the air force base close by
[Thunderbolt General] SirVilhelm:
^ plus one to you sir
[Thunderbolt General] Millzoid:
These are the kind of users that make this forum suck. I find myself coming here less cause of the immaturity of a lot of the users.

Where's the moderation?
[Thunderbolt General] plumcrazy:
the OTA on my stock TB is what hosed my phone. its being replaced by a new replacement on tuesday.

went from perfect reception and 3G speeds to stuck on 1X with horrible speeds, VZW techs agree the OTA seems to have caused the issues and its not the first one to have the problem im told.
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
Had to comment on this, absolutely had too.

SO working on computers for the past 2 years, and working with the people who use them, you come to one conclusion. People are stupid, and no matter how much they pretend to know, they don't know anything.

You ALWAYS assume they don't know first, because they probably don't.

Also, when you have a few people with an issue, and no one else has them, you tend to assume they don't know what they are doing first. Chances are the phone works fine, they just didn't set it up right.

Some phones work well with BFS some with CFS, some with both, some phones run at certain clockspeeds better than others, some can handle low voltages well, some cannot.

All I saw was a child step in trying to justify why he went to an iPhone, because he deep down knows it was the wrong move, and that rooting is a bit to far over his head, and instead of getting pats on the back started a flamewar, and now keeps posting about how we are assholes for assuming, as I said before, that he probably doesn't know what he is doing. The more you keep posting the more I keep coming to the conclusion you don't know what you are doing.
[Thunderbolt General] cwininger:
you're kidding with this post right?

OP clearly understands how to tweak his phone for better performance. those tweaks didn't work.

Bottom line: the phone is flawed. fundamentally flawed. far too many complaints from far too many users on far too many topics for it to all be "operator error".

You said it yourself in this post: BFS, CFS, clockspeeds, voltages. This is a freaking mass-market product made by one of the world's leading smartphone manufacturers for use on the world's most advanced and supported network!

It's a consumer device built for average users, not a freaking homemade liquid-cooled UNIX box from 1990. The user shouldn't have to jerk with all that stuff just to get it to work well.

it should just work. users should expect a good signal, acceptable battery life, responisive GPS etc. and if they don't get those things, they have a right to complain.

again, this isn't the only guy on these boards complaining about serious problems with this phone. hell, go look at the htc forums (where "dumb" users hang out) and see what people are saying there.
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
People complain on iPhone forums too. Guess that phone is flawed as well.
[Thunderbolt General] dalrym05:
I have had zero issues with his phone. Signal is excellent in comparison to fascinate and I'd say chances are the radio didn't make it worse. Everyone always blames the radios......... In fact this is the best reception phone I've ever had.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
How dare you say such blasphemy, the iPhone is THE perfect phone in everyway. Steve Jobs said it himself.

A phone + iPod... Genius!
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
When you buy a PC at the store, it is clocked a certain speed, the memory is clocked a certian speed for a reason.

The moment you start tweaking the computer, you get random results. Like my i7-950 in my computer over clocked to 4.01Ghz no issue with an H50 water cooler, my buddies i7-950 won't clock past 3.79 with the same MB and H50 water cooler. Both running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit legit copies.

even then, working in computer repair, I have probably fixed more computers in a week than most people with touch in their life. So Don't act like a mass produced product will ever be perfect.

further more, did OP call verizon and see if there were any antennas reported out around him? If not, then get a tech out to check them?

I had an antenna go out down the street from me, and at my house couldn't get a LTE signal to save my life, and I previously had perfect LTE connection. I called, they checked saw no reported outages, and sent a tech out and a few days later have perfect LTE again. If no one calles and reports issues, they don't know to fix them.

And +1 to Adrenalyne for pointing out, just as many people ***** about iphones and their issues as people do about HTC and Samsung, etc.

Also like to point out, that the OP never once showed anything convincing that he/she knows anything they are talking about. I don't believe for a min he/she knows how to tweak their phone well. They may be able to tweak it, but tweak it well? Doubt it.

P.S. THIS IS A BETA NETWORK, YOU ARE THE BETA TESTERS, IT WON'T BE PERFECT, AND JUST LIKE DEVS ON HERE, VERIZON WILL NEED YOUR FEEDBACK TO HELP MAKE IT BETTER, CRYING AND SWITCHING PHONES INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SEE IF IT CAN BE FIXED IN A FEW DAYS DOES NOT HELP FIX THE ISSUE!

said all I felt like saying on this topic. Saw people like him in the Evo 4G thread, and all they did was start unneeded flame wars.
[Thunderbolt General] nkd:
I agree with everything u said, but Verizon is not the nice guy here and not all of us get the epic service we expect a company to give us. I have submitted 2 tickets for 4g problems around by house and guess what I still get the excuse of we will replace ur phone. I am not going to do that because I know its not the phone because I get superb signal a mile away from my house. I am in the dead center of 4g coverage. I guess if I am the only one with thunderbolt in my block calling, they could care less.
[Thunderbolt General] nkd:
I was one of those guys whobsaid random reboots are not radio and might be specific to phones, but guess what? I got one today trying to send a text message, and as I was typing this I dropped 4g again for a minute.
[Thunderbolt General] dirtyfingers:
Dude, I wasn't even going to post anything, but c'mon... You tell all these people they need to grow up and stop acting childish and then rip off several posts just like this one. You said your 40 years old so why don't you act like it for once, ive seen more mature 12 year olds than you. Anyways I'm glad you got the iPhone so you can go dilute their forums and hopefully never be heard from here again!!
[Thunderbolt General] Tidbits:
What if all the people in your area has 4G with their thunderbolt? Would mean it had to be your phone right? Just because you had 4G doesn't mean your radio can't go bad. Doesn't hurt to try.
[Thunderbolt General] cwininger:
didn't say anything about the iphone. not defending it. but i'm not going to blindly defend the thunderbolt like most of the sheep on this board either.
[Thunderbolt General] Yaboiaj:
Never had a problem with battery or signal... For yesterday I streamed pandora/audiogalaxy alternately all day yesterday at work and then moderate texting/browsing last night before sleep. Left it off charger all night (fell asleep) and just threw it on the charger about 10 minutes ago, it still had over 20% battery :-/
[Thunderbolt General] miketoasty:
No-one is blindly defending this phone it is a good phone just takes a little tweaking to be perfected like all android devices and some people like you just don't have the patience for android and just jump ship for a simple phone. Which is fine as not everyone has an hour or two to work out the kinks.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
Wait, you mean it's not a perfect phone with no flaws. The commercials made everything seem like it was perfect. Verizon never told me anything about these possible flaws. Why would a company do such a horrible thing to their users? :rolleyes:

To everyone complaining, if you don't like the phone, or it gives your feeble minds too many problems, go get a different phone, end of story. Go to VZW and keep complaining to them, just like you are here. I'm sure they will get just as sick and tired of hearing it as most users in this forum are, and let you exchange the phone.