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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hd2k10:
1) "Android" drains more battery than Windows Mobile, always. The reason I quote it is because Android itself doesn't drain more battery, the user drains more battery. Android is much more versatile and user friendly than any other OS out there so you have more things on it and use it more, therefore...less battery life. Sense roms drain the battery even further, more eye candy/features = more drain. Non-Sense roms drain the least battery and CyanogenMod roms (CM/CM6/CM7 as they're referred to) are a little better than Sense roms when it comes to battery drain (most of the time), however, I prefer Sense as it just looks better and has more handy features; for Sense I recommend CMYLXGO's (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=915159) or CoreDroid's (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=926507) --- I personally use CoreDroid's as CMY's has been giving me crashes when changing notifications and sometimes the dialer hangs, CoreDroid is fantastic though and looks nice with the theming, I'll stick to that for quite a while. As for Non-Sense roms, I recommend HyberDroidGBX (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=918899).

2) As for one that looks like WM6.5, I don't see it happening. None come like that stock that I've seen and I've never seen a theme that looks like it, in my opinion, it would take far too many apps/widgets to make it look like WM6.5 to keep it stable.

In my opinion, if you want to get rid of you HD2 because of the battery life/speed, you won't be happy with another phone ever again.

I assume this is your first 'true' smart phone, their battery is just as good as an old Nokia/Motorola phone when it comes to standby, but what do you expect when you have a screen 4 times the size and features out the ass? If you want a smartphone AND long battery life, there's one solution...use it for Phone calls only (and render it useless as a smart phone in the process)

The HD2 is an extremely fast phone, it was on the top for speed for quite awhile.

The HD2 was meant for Android, why they limited it to WM blows my mind but it crippled it.

Run Android on your HD2 and you'll be happy; Android beats WM in every way possible IMO, they're almost perfectly stable now too. VERY minor bugs left with these Android builds.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koolxx:
thank you for your good input. i think at this point i'm going to sell my phone. this is just too much for me.

thats not true.. i was checking out my friend's iphone 4 and i got to say, i'm addicted to it.

actually, this is my 6th phone.

thats not true! the iphone beats it in terms of speed. its been tested and proven. i dont mean to advertise the iphone, but based on what i've experienced with and read about it, it comes on top in terms of speed, apps, battery, and stability.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hd2k10:
iPhone is actually slower than the HD2 in terms of specs, iPhones just 'appear' faster because iOS is as simple as Windows 95 and Windows Mobile is as slow as...I don't really have a pun for this one but it's slow.

The battery life is based upon the user, I will admit that iPhone's have a little bit of a better battery life (as long as you don't abuse 3/4G).

Keep in mind, you're basing your assumptions about the HD2 off of WM which is slow and lacking features all on its own.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] T-Macgnolia:
Hey Koolxx glad to see you in the Android forums.

I truly hate to see you say you are considering selling (I read your other thread in the HD2 General forum too) your HD2 as the HD2 is not just your run of the mill smartphone. It was the first in a new wave of smartphones because of the screen size, screen resolution, and 1gz Snapdragon processor. If you take a look at the new smartphones that have been and are being released after the HD2 you will see exactly what I mean.

I loved and still do love Windows Mobile, it was a pioneer as far as a what a truly functional mobile OS should be and the capabilities it has. I have considered several times going back to Windows Mobile since I made the switch to Android, but have not for several reasons.

1. I just can not bare the thought of having to deal with the quirkiness of Windows Mobile, everyone should know what I mean by that.

2. I truly believe Android is the OS of the future. Android is growing at such a rapid pace it is leaving other OS's behind. One reason for this is not because of the popularity of Android but because Android is a open sourced system meaning anyone who can contribute to it as far as improvements and features can. This is what is meant when you hear "When it is no limits to what Droid gets, it is no limit to what Droid does."

3. Android has way more apps, development, and hacking support than Windows Mobile at this point.

4. I am learning everything I can about Android right now as I want to be a developer.

I could give more but those are the basic reasons. If you are still interested in going Android please click on the link in my sig that says "Guide" at the front. It can help you out a whole lot. Plus I have links in there to two of the best guides on installing Android to your HD2. My guide is meant to be more of a educational tool than a tutorial on how to flash Android or WP7.

I know you said you like the iPhone and Apply does have some good products. But I hate Apply because to me they are totally disrespectful to the consumer, you know the people that actually by their products. If I pay a large chunk of money for a device I want to be able to do what I want to with it. Not be told I can only use it in they way that the manufacture or OS developer wants me to. After all I paid my money for the device so it belongs to me not them. I could go way deeper into the conversation but this post is already massive.

Let me know if I can help you out any.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zach.antre:
I am not going to argue about the iPhone. I never used it, I don't like it so I have nothing to say about it.

About android.

Really? You want a build which is themed to look like a WinMo stock? Why?

check this thread to see what Android GUI is about and the endless customizations you can do.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=743301

I cannot accept the fact that you want to sell your HD2 (the only device that support so many OSs) before even trying Android. :mad:

I am using Android since the firsts SD build came out and once NAND was out I have never changed back to WinMo.

Battery life for me is better than WinMo in equal use but as hd2k10 said it is the user who is draining the battery and not the OS.

There are Sense, Non-Sence and MIUI builds.

If you want an iPhone GUI you can always check MIUI builds.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] raven_raven:
By whom and when? IMO iPhone 4 is equally fast as HD2 with stock Android. And YES, I have used iPhone 4 a lot (my father owns it and I'm always helping him with something, intuitive OS my a** :D) and both phones are just instant. I mean there is no lag at anything. But often iOS has to load something and you just sit there and admire blank screen before stuff appears. Never seen that on my HD2.

Android is as fast as the device it's running on. HD2 is amazingly fast, and so is OS running on it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yugoport:
I Cam buy your hd2, how much do you want for it?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koolxx:
i think youre saying that an hd2 with droid may be faster that an iphone. if thats the case, i might agree with you, since i did see gingerbread 2.3.2 on an hd2 and its just incredibly fast!

i've never used 3/4g.. i'm on wifi.

yes this is very true. which is why i'm thinking about instlling gingerbread 2.3.2 that some russian guy called imilka has created. it looks VERY fast. i just hope he updated the cam though.. thats the only thing that worries me cuz the cam runs very very slow.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koolxx:
thanks t-mac.. yeah, hopefully droid can save my hd2 from being sold. lets see.

yeah i know. winmo was a dissapointment for me.

yeah i'm thking about installing gingerbread 2.3.2. it looks very sleek and modern, unlike the other droid builds that are horrible, that look like win '95 and look so nerdy. and thats for the positive feedback. i will install droid. and i appreciate you helping me. thanks, man.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koolxx:
dont worry, i'm giving my hd2 a 2nd chance when i install droid. then i'll see if i'll give it the axe or breath of life.

wow, theres more to choose from in terms of builds. i didnt know this. i will be chekcing this out.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] raven_raven:
Just explain me why do you have to post THREE post one after another instead of ONE?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koolxx:
if you dont like the way i post, DONT COME to my threads again. youre a pest. go away troll.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] czacha234:
Hi,

You should use the multi-quote button instead, thats why is there for. Dont offend anyone, thats one of forum rules. He mentioned about it, cause you should keep forumclear and clean.

Back to topic, if you looking for fast, smooth and stable rom, check that one I have in my sig. I use it for months now and Im very satsified. Only you know, what are you looking for. Every rom thread has description of it, what is working and what is not, screenshots and users personal feelings about it. For me instaling Android from scratch to fully working phone is about 20mins and its not difficult. Just read, read and read again. Good luck
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koolxx:
using the multi-quote button is to my discretion. and the only one insulting anyone here is raven. hes one of the trolls on my other thread that insulted me. if you want to curtail insults, consult with him, not me.

anyway, back on topic. i checked out the rom you suggested. it looks nerdy, no offense. but i was checking out imilka's Gingerbread on this page:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=989289

i like it a lot. but, the camera has issues. and its based on gingerbread 2.3.3.

i want gingerbread 2.3.4, but i want it looking like imilks'a gingerbread. how can i get gingerbread 2.3.4 installed looking like imilka's gingerbread? let me know and i thank you for your input.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] czacha234:
Well, everybody got his own preferences regarding to rom. As for you question, you cant have Android 2.3.4 until imilka release update to his rom. Maybe if you ask in his thread, you should get an answer. Besides, there is not much difference between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4. Just small improvements and bug fixes. Give it a try, you want to sell your HD2 anyway. :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] T-Macgnolia:
If you want 2.3.4 you need to go with Unofficial [URL="http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=940684&highlight=Cynagen+Nighly+7"]Cynogan Nighlies for HD2, NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.7 , or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2. Now as far as getting the look of the Imilka ROM, well his ROM has the look you are talking about because it is based off of the Desire HD and that is the UI the Desire HD has. I do not know if you can get a launcher or theme like that on your HD2 but the chances are very high that you can. You will just have to go into the Android Market and grab some launchers and then look at what themes the launchers offer. Or you can always download a Android Kitchen and start modding the ROM to your liking. Also check out these two sections HD2 Android apps and thems and Android Themes .
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koolxx:
hello once again, t-mac. and thanks for the support. i checked out the links you posted. the droids look good and similar. ok, i got some questions for you:

1) which do you recommend based on my needs of being very fast, no glitches/bugs, and long batt life?

2) i need launchers that look like the Desire HD. hopefully, there are for this droid.

3) can you tell me the advantages of 2.3.4 over 2.3.3?

4) and i see that you on 2.3.3. any reason why you wont switch to 2.3.4?

5) in imilka's gingerbread based on 2.3.3, why isnt the cam working? is there a fix for it?

6) is v2.3.4 the latest gingerbread version?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] T-Macgnolia:
1) I recommend Cynogan Nighlies for HD2 ( have not tried yet but will soon) or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2 (I have tried and liked it but I was using MAGLDR).

2) As long as the launcher supports the Android version which most launches support all Android versions including 2.3.4 then you can use them on any android device or Android ROM, you get the lauchers from the Android Market or do a Google search for Android launchers and download the .apk file and put it on your SD card and then use a file explorer in Android to find the apk and open it. Andropid will ask if you want to install the apk.

3) I really do not know all the advantages just yet but I know that you can get a couple of themes on 2.3.4 that you can not on 2.3.3. But i am sure there is more differences than that although I highly doubt they are very drastic.

4) The man reason is becaus I have been real busy around my house lately and have not had time to go to a WiFi spot to download some more ROMs. Plus I have been trying to get a Android kitchen up and running on my computer. But I keep getting a damn Bash.exe error saying cynwin.dll is missing from your computer and I have not been able to correct it yet. So you see I have been kinda preoccupied. ;)

5) This I really do not know, I would have to be able to look at his ROM in a kitchen and also use ADB on it to see if I could track down the source of the problem, might would even have to decompile it. You have to remember the Andriod ROMs for the HD2 all come from other devices so they have to be modded to work with the HD2's hardware.

6) Yes 2.3.4 is the most resent Android phone release and it has not been out very long. You do have Android 3.0 Honeycomb but it is suppose to be just for tablets. But devs have been porting it to phones. The HD2 has a 3.0 honeycomb port but it is still really buggy still.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koolxx:
hi, t-mac. at this point, i'm confused. i looked at the droids you recommended and to be honest, i'm just not feeling them. i just want a very fast and reliable droid where everything (including wifi and cam) works with no glitches. and one where i can install a theme that looks like the desire hd. if that means installing 2.3.3 instead of 2.3.4, then so be it. but i got to have these conditions met.

i know i'm asking alot out of you. and i appreciate your time. but i just ask for more recommendations based on my needs. thanks man.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] graffixnyc:
Ok, So I dont really start threads about complaining but I had to on this one. I had the most frustrating experience with Asus support today.

I'm having two issues one with audio and one with the dock both have been reported by MANY users.

Sound issue: The left speaker volume is much lower than the right

Dock Issue: Keeps diconnecting after a few seconds to a few minutes after using and has dropped wifi 3 times. turning off track pad has *SEEMED* to correct this.

So here we go. I call asus support and describe the issues I have and also tell the guy that a lot of other people I knew in user groups were having the same exact issue I had. His first question... "That's running windows 7 right? Are you Fu**ing kidding me???? The about the dock issue "Is the dock manufactured by Asus?" ARE YOU KIDDING????

So I tell him it's obvious he knows nothing about the product and I would like to speak to a supervisor or someone who actually knows the product. He puts me on hold coming back on the line every 2 minutes to tell me he is looking for a supervisor.. He transfers me.. it rings for like 10 minutes straight and disconnects me.. I call back ask for a supervisor right away, Same thing.. transfers me rings and rings and get cut off, call back a 3rd and 4th time. Same thing! Now mind you I have been doing this for about 2 hours now..

I finally get a supervisor on the phone after 5 calls and tell him the issues and he says they can only repair it.. Why should something brand new have to be repaired? you dont buy something brand new and expect that it needs to be repaired, if it does need to be repaired when it's brand new then it SHOULD just be replaced...

So fine, I ask about cross shipping, even offering my CC # as security, He says he cant do it. Fine.. I'm super pissed at this point. He tells me I would get an email with the RMA info in 3 minutes, it's been 15 and still no email.. Then I ask if they ship a prepaid box to send it back in.. Nope they dont even do that! Almost every company I have dealt with has at least sent as box to ship the unit back in.. In all my years I have NEVER had such a frustrating experience with support(and I have had many)

I love the TF, but because of the service I received and this issues I'm experiencing this will be the first and last asus product I buy again!

Great concept, great idea but major fail in QA and launch.. Like I said I usually dont start threads like this but I'm so frustrated!!

Please if you are experiencing the issue with your left speaker volume being lower than the right please call Asus and report it. if it is a sw issue like some suspect then then if a lot of people report it we might see a fix quicker.

If you are having an issue with the dock keep becoming unresponsive report that as well!!! They wont know there is a problem unless people complain about it. And these two issues I dont consider minor or nit picking..

ASUS SUPPORT #'s

US 1-888-678-3688

canada # 1-888-616-2787
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuntdouble:
I have the speaker issue you mention but it's not a dealbreaker for me. Hopefully a firmware update will correct it. If not, I can live with it. They already know about the dock issues and the next firmware is meant to address them.

While I'd hate to be kept waiting and have to chase up on a support line, that's the way it's been with all companies in my experience over the last 10 years or so. Usually outsourced to some place you can't understand what they are saying from their accent. The best way to get support nowadays is to go via their official forum because that way you air your issue in 'public' and usually that gets a response from the company.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Billus:
Few things. First, they have 2 new tablet devices on the market, the Eee Pad (That's you) and the Eee Slate that runs Windows 7 so I can understand his confusion. He would also be required to ask if the dock is made by Asus due to third party products such as bluetooth keyboards as well as fakes.

Secondly, you would be surprised by just how many people try and return brand new products even though they fully function. By saying they will only repair it is a way to deter those who just want a new product because the box is slightly damaged or as a way to obtain a full refund if they dislike the product etc. It actually is an expensive process to pay for return shipping, restocking, refurbishing or even replacing a product.

I can understand your frustration but it's hard for any company to take on everyone's issues on a case by case basis. I do wish you good luck on getting your products fixed one way or another.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seshmaru:
Calling low level techs wont do you any good with any company.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jake21:
The sound issue is a known firmware issue (if you read the [info] thread on the firmware it list this as an open issue that will be resolved). There is nothing support can do until the software changes (surprise there isn't an equilizer that would allow you to set the shift manually).

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The dock is mostly likely a software issue (no clue why it impacts wifi). This is the negative of being on the bleeding edge.

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You have two choices - return it and wait for the technology to mature or live with it until it is fixed but chances are fixes will take a few weeks.

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I guess there are a few other choices - gripe to your blue in the face - give it a few weeks till you reach the end of the return period and then make a decision.

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From what I have read the dock issue is not hardware or at least specific to your instance of the dock.

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It was like this with the P67 (read the threads on the various motherboards and bios isssues); it was like this with [pick your favorite bleeding edge technology].

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In this specific case asus is fighting two levels of bugs/maturity. Their firmware/hardware AND honeycomb (which adds its own problem). While the speaker issue is likely asus issue it would not surprise me if the many of hte issues with the dock is honeycomb.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dfin13:
True story: Last week I cracked the face of my new Skagen watch being drunk and doing god-knows-what. I accidentally dropped it face down a couple of days later, and the weakened face completely shattered. I wrote Skagen asking them how much it'd cost to fix the watch, understanding it was non-warranty work and a result of my own idiocy. They wrote back and said they'd fix it for free, I just had to pay $9 S&H. I love their watches anyway, but now I'll never buy another brand.

Point is, I hate where customer service has gone these days. It's refreshing and shocking when a company goes out of its way to keep a customer rather than throwing up roadblocks to keep from helping them. I hope Asus gets it together on the tablet side. Simply rationalizing why they gave this guy a hard time is why it's gotten this way in the first place, no accountability.

*Old man-esque rant over*
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuntdouble:
I better correct you there before this gets quoted everywhere. It's in my list of "things NEEDING to be fixed". I don't know if it WILL be fixed. Caps for emphasis there. :) The list at the top of my thread are the things that should be out in the next update.

EDIT: I've now changed my thread around to make it clearer for people, as there have been a few others misquoting it too.