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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] YOSEFE:
I have noticed that too. Looking for answers.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dicko99:
The new kernel breaks the FM radio in this ROM too. ([ROM][03/28/11] Vision Gingerbread Sense 2.30.405.1 Untouched (from Vision-Test RUU))

Everything else seems to work fine though.

R.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] YOSEFE:
Hopefully RMK can attend to this quickly.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flyin18T:
I was just joking. Didn't know people still listened to FM radio anymore. With the likes of Pandora, TuneIn, internet radio in general, podcasts, and of course the ability to load up gigs worth of music, I didn't think FM radio would still be on the list. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 008325:
Oh . It is not funny and Usa is not the only one country on this planet .

. Plus. Fm radio do not need internet connection service and save power.

Fm radio is not the out dated technology.

It provide a real update and stable services .

Podcast is a joke from information technology industry. It is not live
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] havocnl:
Maybe an explanation for the FM Radio; does the DHD have a FM Radio in it?

Thought it didn't have this? Seeing that the kernel is based on source from the DHD, this would explain it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] YOSEFE:
Yes, the specs do show FM Radio on the DHD.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dicko99:
It does according to HTC: http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirehd/specification.html
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheDeadCPU:
Not everyone has 3G everywhere ;)

Internet radio + EDGE = nono
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
it is not based on DHD kernel source, it just so happens that the DHD Kernel source release also INCLUDED the Vision source as well as the DHD source... otherwise we still wouldn't even have an OC kernel...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] havocnl:
ahhh ok, thanx for the explanation!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flyin18T:
Everyone knows this. By mentioning it was a joke was an attempt to get you to crack a smile. Let's clank our beer bottles together and move on. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] BTaylor927:
I used this for a bit, but the speed was nowhere near usable, sadly.

Hopefully once we have some source, it can be optimised, otherwise we're in a Sense-on-G1 situation where you can only really use it as a daily driver if you have the patience of a saint...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] JoeyLe:
With a overclock this wil run much more smooth. (however i don't see why you can't use it as a daily driver, i can and it isn't slow at all for stock speed. And it is still not fully optimized for the Desire Z i guess.)

Any idea when the update for the SMS bug and the other small bugs is coming?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tbalden:
With oc kernel its buttersmooth. I have 46fps in nenamark with oc to 1.5 with perf governor. Aside the fm radio being borked, new kernel is amazing. It even has tun and cifs support. Im converting from cm7 for a while to test it more.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sqx:
To bad it's so laggy....:( i really like sense 3.0
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hubba88:
It's not laggy if you use the new kernel and overclock.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sqx:
I did, but comming from cm7 this is way to slow for me (loading times for apps ect.)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hova08:
My wifi seem to have stopped working, the icon doesn't even want to show up in the bar. Is there anyway to reset it because i don't feel like doing a wipe and install.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hubba88:
I understand, but I just use it as it is and it still looks awesome and works ok. I love the rom for the fact that the creators, who put a great amount of work into it, are trying to give us the best possible Sense 3.0 experience. Soon we will get the re-based version of Fusion, which will be awesome. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] the orange bandit:
I see this quite often. It's important to note that CM7 is specifically built for speed - it's slimmed down and optimized out the wazoo to be this way.

Sense, on the other hand, is optimized to be more aesthetically pleasing and more user-friendly, with social extras (like FriendStream).

Think of it like a Corvette vs a Chevy Volt. They're both cars, but one is built and optimized for speed while the other is built and optimized for user-friendliness and extras. Surely you wouldn't expect a Chevy Volt to get the top speed and 0-60 times as a Vette?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flyin18T:
Someone mentioned in a prior post to use Launcher Pro Plus if you want to zip things up a bit. I took that advice and tried it out. The menu's are a bit more zippy. You still retain the 3.0 lock screens. The only thing you really lose is the 3d scrolling between homescreens. Other than that LPP definitely tightens up the experience.....especially with the new kernel. As the ROM continues to be updated I'll switch back to the Sense launcher when we see more features and stability. It's always nice to have that Launcher option at the push of a button.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] edwill44:
Ok, off topic question. I see people comparing Virtuous to CM7. Is CM a Sense rom? I've never used it so i don't know what's going on.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] BTaylor927:
Ooh, there's an OC kernel? Better dig that out!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] arich:
Is there anyway to change the lockscreen shortcut apps?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] JoeyLe:
Sure there is! Go to the lockscreen menu and choose 'Settings' right there you can select wich 4 applications you want with your lockscreen! ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] enserio:
No, CM7 is most definitely not a Sense ROM. If anything, it and virtuous may be the most used roms, so if people are comparing them, that might be why.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] edwill44:
So its apples and oranges when you compare them. That's what I was thinking. Thanks for the info.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] arich:
Thanks!!!!!!!!!! (Enthusiasm addedfor character limit)

EDIT: aah but I see my old nemesis the recent apps notification bar still exists. God I hate that thing
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
So i installed the new kernel yesterday for OC and it's great - but i've noticed that i do have some echo when talking to people - where do i get the best radio to apply? And how do i apply it?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
please see below:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
Thanks for that. Just a question - do i really need to wipe and reflash? Can i not just follow instructions from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=970809

This simply says to put the PCIMG10.zip on the SDcard and boot through bootloader and let it apply.

Will this help?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shortlived:
Those instructions are for flashing radios. It has nothing to do with roms. I would always recomend wiping everything just to avoid any errors. You could always try it without wiping first. You just may end upl wiping if things dont work.

Also just to clarify if your flashing the new OC kernel you dont need to wipe anything. Just flash it like a rom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
you should at the VERY least, use the Ghul EFS/GPS partition wipe, found in the superwipeg2 thread... then after using that zip to wipe the radio partition, maybe even run it a couple times just to be sure, then hopefully you've already placed the PC10IMG.zip on your sdcard, if not mount it via recovery and do so, then reboot into hboot and flash the desired radio...

this MAY take care of your issues, but the first way is CONFIRMED to do so, and if you have titanium backup it only takes a few minutes to restore all your apps + data...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
well, he's having an issue that I think is directly related to radio... but it's possible it also has rom implications... if he wants to try the second method of only flashing the radio, it would save him some time, if it turns out that it does indeed fix his issue...

I would really hope that people realize this too... but my other suggestion is to flash a kernel when you are at 100%, then wipe battery stats and recalibrate the battery... flashing kernels seems to make the stats somewhat void, though I don't notice as bad of a drain when flashing a kernel @ 100% than I do when I flash a kernel @ around 25%...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
thanks button? =)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
unfortunately for you, the developer doesn't have much interest in figuring this problem out, and I don't blame him either... it is a bit trivial as most fm stations also have a streaming internet broadcast that is just as live as the OTA...

so you might want to try installing some of the other "compatible" FM Radio apks (ie: ones from gingerbread rom bases) and see if any of the others work... also... have you installed the update zip? I'm sorry if you already posted that you had, but I only ask because that includes a different FM Radio in it (the doubleshot FMRadio) and maybe, just maybe, that one will work... there is also, kingdom, vision (test leak 2.30.405.1), rider(fusion stock, but didn't seem to work so if you installed the update already and it isn't working maybe try grabbing the original rider FMRadio???) I dunno I'm just thinking out loud at this point... hope you find a solution for your issue, but don't go hounding the dev as from what I've seen from his comments on IRC it's no where near the top of the priority list...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
So i decided to do the simple option and just install the new (.30) radio from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=970809

without any wipes. Installed - very easy.

If it didn't work, my plan was to then do the wipe options etc.

Hopefully this fixes my echo issues...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
Another issue that has started when i flashed the new OC-enabled kernel.. whenever i plug my phone in to charge, the "HTC CAR PANEL" starts up automatically. I can find no options to disable the auto-startup.

It was not happening on pre-kernel or on stock ROM....
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
not happening here... strangeness
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
I remember i had this issue in my first week with the phone - and found this article saying how to fix it:

http://www.htc.com/www/howto.aspx?id=9169&type=1&p_id=325

But i no longer have "DOck" listed under Settings??
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] philippecr:
hem... would appreciate if anyone here would make a short video review of this ROM. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
Even though the new kernel has made the ROM faster and smooth - certain apps like messaging and email still show a "white" screen for quite a while (10 seconds?) before showing actual items..

Do others have this issue too?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 008325:
actually , it not working from the beginning.

i copy the radio apk from doubleshot rom then it works.

but after flashing the new kernel . it's not working anymore.

i am not going to blame anyone.

i just not comfortable with this bad joke.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
you probably need to lighten up a little... the guy was kidding, not a big deal... lol...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
How can I take of kernel? To many fcs
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ZilverZurfarn:
You just restore the backup you of course made before updating the kernel?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
rmk- sorry to hassle you - but can you advise if someone is working on some fixes for issues like

- slow messaging/email app when loading

- HTC calendar/photo widgets don't work

I love this ROM but some minor fixes would make it even more perfect!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] havocnl:
Reflash the ROM, it will overwrite the kernel
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] the orange bandit:
I don't use messaging (use HandcentSMS) but I do use the email and yes, I get this white screen as well.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheRomMistress:
I had the same issue but it was starting up when ever it damn well pleased. I uninstalled using titanium backup and now everything is peachy.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Just a quick question, some of the default HTC widgets are smaller than the other HTC ones. And my calander widget shows a white square block. It is a known bug?

Thanks in advance.

PS this al really great rom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
I also have the white square block and smaller widgets - known issue.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
The "Car Panel" thing realy sh1ts me! I know it used to happen on stock - but on stock there was a "Dock" settings under "Settings". In Fusion, this is gone.

The "Dock" settings had a setting like "Auto-Launch when plugged in".

Anyone know how i can manually set this to false?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
Do I have to do a wipe?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
i un-installed "HTC Car Panel" using Titanium and installed "Custom Car Home" from the market.. seems to be better anyway.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
Actually i eventually found Google Car Home (and Google Car Home Launcher) on some websites and installed them. They are much nicer than Custom Car Home - especially since i only want to use google and nothing else for navigation.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shortlived:
In this particular case you should not need a wipe. Worst case you will have errors and need to wipe and reflash again...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] arich:
The 3rd quick launch button still doesn't work =/
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ssinisterss:
is there gonna be an update soon?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] havocnl:
Maybe, if there is a better base available to port. RMK is now finishing up on a new G-Lite, maybe he will start with a new fusion after that.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
I am on the latest (.30) radio and can confirm that i am missing SMSs. I get most - but definitely have missed some.

I have about 90Mb free RAM.

Has anyone got a solution to this other than the SMS2Mail thing?

Does rmk know what is causing this? It is now my only real concern wit this ROM.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] havocnl:
Radio version doesn't seem to matter. The SMS 2 Gmail app shows that all SMS messages are received on your phone. They wouldn't be forwarded if they didn't reach you phone. So the problem lies somewhere in the SMS related software.

No solution yet, this could be a number of things. And all things are packed in HTC's custom software (which we have no source of)... So we will need another base with newer (or different) versions of the SMS related software before we can something about it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
I thought a new "base" was released?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
Just FYI - even with "Google Car Home", the minute i plug into a certain charger, it still opens :) So it is not just the HTC Car Panel that is the issue.

i have uninstalled both HTC and google's car stuff and am now happy :) I still have google navigation and that's about all i really care about anyway...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tererai:
Installled this on my desire z and after some time wifi stopped working and i rest the phone wiping all dat aand cache and it wont boot up now, it shows the HTC logo on and off and it keeps looping around there. Also i couldn change the temperature from farenhiet to degrees, weather appp keppt crashing
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
that's because the /system/app is actually located at /data/system.app and symlinked, so if you wipe data, you just wiped all the system related apps... you need to reflash the rom

edit: DO NOT WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET UNLESS YOU PLAN ON REFLASHING THIS ROM, REMEMBER, THIS IS A PORT AND THE THAT THINGS HAD TO BE DONE TO GET THE SYSTEM PARTITION TO FIT, THAT BEING THAT SYSTEM/APP WERE MOVED TO /DATA/SYSTEM.APP SO IF YOU WIPE DATA YOU WILL BE FORCED TO REFLASH ROM!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] JWhipple:
Quick question for you - when you make or take a call does the phone automatically switch to speaker phone?

I had the same issue with the car home and speaker phone - I did a Superwipe and problem hasn't come back, then again I haven't tried this ROM again yet :-)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ryandaneri:
Anyones market super slow?? It takes my market app like a full min to load and my dl speed is like 100kbps..i always full wipe (superwipe+) dalvik+fix permissions..but is there a fix that anyone knows???? I always go into market so it sucks so bad thats is sooooooo ssslllloooowwwwww...please help!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
No speaker phone issues for me..

but yes Market is slow
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
My headeset mic doesn't work?any way to fix that?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] eioous:
Mine is only slow when originally loading its like 30 to 45 sec to load. After that it runs pretty normal.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] edwill44:
Same here. Slow to load then it runs smoothly.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
rmk - can you give a rough idea about your plans with this ROM? I know it's not your top priority but can you advise if you are making a new version?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rmk40:
I may spend some time on it here and there but I'm not sure how viable a full Sense 3 port is going to be for our device longer term. We only have 512MB of memory, compared to 768MB on many of the Sense 3 devices, as well as the DHD and MT4G. We end up with ~50MB free memory after rebooting, which is not much for running apps. This is why the launcher ends up reloading fairly often.

If any devs want to collaborate on this going forward, I would be happy to do so. Just let me know.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
rmk40 - thanks for your hard work. I think it is definitely viable. I am using it every day with very few issues. Calendar widgets, some UI stuff and missing SMS are the only issues for me. Not everyone runs a tonne of apps..

So i really hope you can release an update for some of these bugs......
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Exanimus:
i have stuck with this ROM and managed to live with the bugs since i like the ROM.

But i am considering changing Rom very soon since i have asked for help with my hardware keyboard 3 times in this Rom thread without even getting an answer..

I need swedish language for the Hardware keyboard but the only language i have in my list is english. My soft keyboard are set to swedish, but hardware keyboard are still english and there are no other languages in the list for hw keyboard at all.

still great work from you rmk40 :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dilfatx:
I have installed this ROM twice now.. and I can't get the wifi calling app to show up...

What am i doing wrong?

Can somebody post wificalling apk that works for this rom plz..

I noticed the lite version has the wifi apk but doesn't show up on this rom when i install this one...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] redpoint73:
Might have something to do with Sense 3.0 taking up so much memory. If you get out of Market and go to the launcher home (same for me using Sense launcher or ADW EX), it always has to reload the launcher. Then if you go back to the Market, it has to load for almost a minute again.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lainvalenajr:
Will try this later...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Gootah:
FEATURES!

Anyone workin on WiFi Calling?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nonione:
i dont know if this may work but you can try morelocale2 download from the market
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dilfatx:
I've noticed that this type of questions have been overlooked on this thread.

The dev made working version of wifi calling for the lite version of this rom but not this one..... why?? I don't know.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] YOSEFE:
RMK,

I agree with others. This rom is a big development for Vision. I use it all the time since you released it. I have no issues other than the loss of fm radio because of the new kernel.

If you do not offer us further development, it means that I am stuck with it, as I honestly do not intend to revert to a non-3.0 sense.

We all hope that you will find time to look at this rom again when you finished the current projects with other roms.

Thanks for your good innovations.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Exanimus:
i did, but it doesn't affect the hardware keyboard.

those files has to be put in the ROM from the start.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] BTaylor927:
I installed the overclock kernel, and set max to 1200 and min to 600 ondemand, but the ROM is still quite laggy. Can someone recommend good settings to smooth things a bit?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kozmikkick:
I love it when people ask questions but have no clue how to search or at least take the time to read the thread... I posted a wifi calling update quite awhile ago... its several pages back. No I will not link to it. If you want it read the thread or learn to search.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cdsbj6508:
I have your wifi update got it once you posted it!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
Which radio is reconmenede on this rom
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zappoo:
I use the latest radio - 0.30 - and i've had no issues radio related.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] darkphoenix2012:
I just want to ask, what about swap, or cc? I know the G1 this really helped with some of the roms we couldn't run without it. 50mb is far less to make up for than we had to in those days. Besides the condition with that helping was to have a high class sd card. I'm sure the enthusiasts like myself would grab a class 10 just to use this rom if cc/swap depended on making it viable for a daily driver without any issues for RAM.

Just my thoughts, however you know more than I do. Those ideas may not help the same way they did back then.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Soulbody:
are there any nice themes &/or skins around for this roms.

and im also searching for good CPU settings, (OC 1500mhz)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
The G1 is a good example of the real question sense 3 presents.

On the G1, many amazing and truly innovative devs brought so much to us. It was a lot of fun and so cool to defy the reports that eclair or froyo, etc. were not possible on the device.

I think that in the end, Donut was just the right fit for the G1, though more was available. After 1.6, everything was a compromise. Some people were able to compromise speed, etc. For android 2.x, but some just wanted a fast stable phone.

I sat on the fence lol.

I think that sense 3 is totally viable for the Vision, but I think delving into that direction will just lead to more compromises. It's an opportunity for those devs who love the chance to really dig in and get their hands dirty, but some devs just want to create a perfect, flawless ROM without compromise.

For the latter, we might just have to settle on a UI that "fits" our hardware and take it from there. Who knows, Sense 2.x might be our final ideal Sense and we'll have to roll with it.

On the other hand, nerd-power is one of the most incredible and historically significant things of our time, and anything seems possible. Viva la dev!

For certain I can say one thing: I never had so much fun on my G1 as when it started being called "obsolete" lol