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[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ibuddha:
Hey all I'm wondering if any one else has been having trouble with their keyboard not registering certain keys. Idk what it is but God damn it its annoying. I've tried three different keyboards and I get the same problem on all. If anyone can help out or guide me in the correct direction of where I should be looking for help or something. I'm running my TB stock with Das Bamf 4b kernel at 1.4 ghz.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nerozehl:
Which keyboards have you tried using? Have you calibrated your touchscreen (may not even be related, but give it a shot).
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ibuddha:
I've used the stock, better keyboard 7 and swift key. I calibrated my screen on the stock KB but not the others.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] You.:
I've had the same problem too. It usually happens the worst while I'm charging my phone
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boristhebladexx:
in landscape mode my 'T' is really hard to use. i've used better keyboard, swiftkey, and smart keyboard. my 'the' always comes out as 'he' -_______-

i have noticed that too. when i charge my phone its almost like i have a resistive screen instead of a capacitive. my touch is only registered if i force my finger on it, instead of the gentle touches that it usually registers
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
I just got my S-line case (black) from eBay and I love it. It adds very little bulk, seems like it will do a good job protecting my phone, and looks very nice.

Definitely worth the $5!

Edit: Pics added
[Thunderbolt Accessories] ttran97:
I have one as well. Love it. Too bad the car dock doesn't work with the case on. I hate having to take it off, but at least it's pretty easy.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
Agree with you on all fronts, including car dock and easiness of taking the case off.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] want a droid:
Link?

10char
[Thunderbolt Accessories] heffe2001:
Was easy enough to find:

S-Line Ebay Case
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
For what it's worth, I got the black one, but I've heard better comments on the smoke one when I was doing my research.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] viceversa:
is the material that soft gel/rubber type? they look "sticky" lol how does it feel in the hand?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] jblist90:
pretty cool looking, does it hold up?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] boristhebladexx:
is the inside rubber/silicon?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
There seems to be 2 types of materials, 3 finishes.

On mine, the clearish part is a slightly-bendable hard plastic with the texture of what all of my matte hard plastic. Think the type of plastic that is one most power adapters (that aren't shiny) but add a slightly bendable aspect to it.

The black part on the back is shiny, slick, smooth, and more flexible. It's similar to silicon cases (what I can assume you mean by soft gel/rubber) but I think it's still different. It seems to be less "floppy" even though it is very bendable. The shiny black part seems to "stick" to certain surfaces (such as my desk and other hard/flat surfaces) but not to some that you would expect (it doesn't stick to my pockets at all and glides just fine across my clothing, car seat, and non-leather furniture - it might stick to leather, I don't know). The black part on the front appears to be the same material as the black part on the back, but with a matte finish. The result of the different finish is that it doesn't have the "stickiness" on much of any surface, yet still gives your hand a slight bit of grip beyond what the stock TBolt gives you.

Overall, the "feel in hand" is comfortable and it gives you extra grip but doesn't feel sticky or anything like that. Imagine going from a slick, hard-plastic phone to a phone with a rubberized body (like our TBolt has). Going from a naked TBolt to this case is kinda like taking that one step further. But in no way could I ever describe it as "feeling sticky" in my hand or pocket.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
So it looks like/feels like it's not going to just fall apart or anything like that, if that's what you mean. I can't envision drops/dings or other daily use wearing it down.

The ONE concern that I have about it holding up is because it is made with two types of "plastic" (I don't know if it's plastic, silicon, rubber, or whatever, hence my quotes). I fear that if I take the case off and on a lot (for my car dock), that the joints of the two plastics might start to come apart. This is NOT based on any quality issues that I have seen so far, just a concern based on the fact that this wasn't produced in a single mold when it was melted down (this is coming from somebody with an engineering background).

I will be shocked, though, if I have a problem with this case in the next 6 months, and for $5, well, I'd say that's pretty damned good!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
Read my post a couple posts up about the 2 different types of materials with 3 finishes. As best as I can tell, the inside is the same material as the outside. What this means is that 60% of it is the very flexible plastic while the clear part does cover ~40% of the back. I would expect the black part to offer more protection to a fall/bump than the clear part, and fortunately the black part covers most of the corners and edges. Still, I expect the clear part to offer more protection than a hard plastic case would.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
Updated the OP with some photos. Perhaps they will help. :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] viceversa:
thanks for the detailed feedback!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] ttran97:
This case will also fit into the Verizon holster/shell combo holster. You just can't use the VZW shell, but it'll slide into the holster. The fit is a little snug, but it works. I like to swap out this case with the VZW shell. This one provies more protection, but the VZW one is pretty cool too.

In case anybody was wondering, I got mine from this seller from China: http://goo.gl/62Fhx

It took something like 10 days to get to me, but I didn't mind since it cost less than a good burger. :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] azturbomini:
Hey, thanks for the write up. I'm in Arizona and ordered one for $5 from a California seller. I should have it early next week.

Thanks again
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Mystery252:
I ordered mine just before the thread was started and its my favorite case for my Thunderbolt. It looks so cool too!

sent from my BAMF Thunderbolt!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] ericatomars23:
Well Done

$5 ARE YOU KIDDING ME? grrr I have the silicone case that I got from VZW for $15 and it's not even all that..

But I think all cases will add some bulk for for that price you cant go wrong. Great buy.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] 0mie:
Might have to check this one out :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Mystery252:
Just a heads up, with this casr the phone fits like a champ in the holster of the shell/holster combo i got from VZW

sent from my BAMF Thunderbolt!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] David522d:
Thanks to OP

I ordered 1 loved it! Got another one the way hahaha
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
For those who are interested in more than one, I believe there was a seller with a 6-pack of various colors for something like $20. I thought about it but quickly decided I only needed one and any more would be wasted.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] azturbomini:
I've had my black and clear one since Friday and couldn't be made happier with the style, it's super easy to get out of your pocket and it ads very little bulk to the phone. Mine has a slight molding defect on the face side towards the top of the volume rocker button. It sticks up a bit and is kinda annoying. I wrote the seller and I already have another one in the mail. Great customer service. Buy one, you won't regret it!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] squeakyl:
how easy/hard is it to remove this case?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Mystery252:
Very easy. I always slide it off from the bottom, that seems to be the easiest way.

sent from my BAMF Thunderbolt!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] joem333:
love the case

I just got one from ebay last night; blows away the 15.00 verizon case. I do recommend it, you can't beat the price for what you get. (first post) :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] joem333:
I find it very easy, not a chore at all. :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
I just thought that I would add that I'm still very happy with my case, and that I love how it keeps me from accidentally pressing the volume rocker. (My thumb naturally rests on the "volume down" button and I used to press it all the time by accident.)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Millzoid:
I have the S-Line and Seido Innocase II Surface Case. The S-line is nice for the money, but to me it feels cheap. There's also no real size difference in the 2. The Sedio case is harder to take off at first, but once you get used to it it's super easy. I love my Seido case, but I would be ok if I only had the S-Line.

Also, to me nothing feels better than the naked phone. I'm too afraid to scratch or drop it though.

EDIT: Attached some images of the cases (Seido on left)

EDIT 2: posted in wrong thread. That's what I get for ready 2 at the same time. Oh well still relevant
[Thunderbolt Accessories] BlackHoleSlam:
Just got the blue s line case for 2.88 and free shipping u can't beat it
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
Hey, good post for here regardless! :)

I have seen other TPU cases that looked like they might be slightly better but they all seem (at most) just slightly better. When you through in their $20+ prices, I'm not even willing to try them. Doesn't mean they're not better, just I don't think they are worth it. I mean, I'm sure a Lamborghini is a better car than my Camry but ain't no way I'm going to but one. It's just not worth it.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] chavist:
Found this case on ebay for $2.95 with free shipping.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] tyvallely:
I am so getting that case
[Thunderbolt Accessories] allchannels99:
I love mine too.

I use the MyTouch 4G car dock from T-Mobile.

It works without taking the case off.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] masterxchief:
Nice to see that people are liking this case. I ordered mine over the weekend before seeing this thread but now I am glad I did since everyone seems to like it!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jaxidian:
Well, call me shocked. My case started to have exactly this problem that I feared. It's coming apart where the two plastics are glued to each other. Ordering another one (they now come for $3 shipped). Kinda disappointed, until I think about how much it costs me to replace it. :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] squeakyl:
I dropped my phone in the theater last week, about a 3 foot fall, and no damage done. It's cheap and serves its purpose, i'm satisfied
[Thunderbolt Accessories] theredspecial:
I just noticed mine has started to do this as well. I've had it since mid-June :(
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Naguabo:
i have mine for a month now and it is holding good. Also taken it off and rinse with water and dish soup will do wounder keep it looking like new. If you charge the phone on a cradle you will have to remove the cover. Get use to remove the cover by pulling from the bottom part first, the top has a the opening for your on/off button and other adapters and is week area of the cover.:o
[Epic 4G General] ezsoulja:
I came from the EVO to epic so im very familiar with evos style and how its handles as a smartphone but damn that EVO 3D looks very temping to go back.. and just in time for my yearly upgrade in july when it looks to be dropping i might just go plung for it and do like i do all my other phones including the epic and EBAY It...

how about the rest of yall? Nexus S doesnt appeal to me :(
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
Yes. 10char

EDIT: That is, yes, I am keeping my Epic.
[Epic 4G General] ezsoulja:
then comes to question am i willing to go without a keyboard again.. ill have to look deeper into the display once it does hit the store. :cool:
[Epic 4G General] LunaticWolf:
I've been buying AMOLED devices since 2008.

No AMOLED, no purchase.
[Epic 4G General] djbacon06:
definitely keeping the epic. it does everything and more I could possibly want from a phone. I'm not really buying into this whole 3d thing yet either.
[Epic 4G General] Wildheathen0341:
It all depends on how good the screen & display looks.
[Epic 4G General] wallerz:
i'm not buying into the stereoscopic display.
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Im sticking with the epic. Im pretty sure the 3d effect on the evo3d is going to be crap like the nintendo ds 3d. Garbage
[Epic 4G General] SpicyBurrito:
Nah. I'm good.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
The epic does everything I want, so why change? 3D is a marketing scam...

Sent from Bonsai 7.1.3.1
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Best answer ever lol simple and straight to the point ;)
[Epic 4G General] bobdude5:
Defintely. And stop hating on 3d. You dont have to use the 3d function. Its still a dual core phone with 1gb of ram qhd screen with super lcd
[Epic 4G General] sryans2004:
I'm switching... don't think I can go for another samsung phone again......
[Epic 4G General] Tanwir20:
I'm definitely switching
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
The epic is the best smartphone they have right now. I do not consider a phone without a keyboard a smartphone. I can't stand when someone hands me a phone to type a message...setup some things etc...when it is a virtual keyboard.
[Epic 4G General] jdelano:
Nothing to see here, move along. I'm keeping my Epic
[Epic 4G General] ezsoulja:
I wonder how the 1.2 dual core does in quadrant scores and linpacks ............ lol with the extra boost of ram, thats what my main eyes on.. its a evo supercharged and i did miss my evo so i would love to see how it is.. samsung to me been a **** up, developers shouldnt work so hard to do what they shoulda had done right from first go around and im an all time htc fan...i love their quality hardware, never had a problem with em.. keyboard i will miss but, i can type better on glass than on samsungs skipped keyboard.... *even with the patches* :/
[Epic 4G General] sc00ty:
I would never pay retail price for a phone and I don't get upgraded for another 14 months.

aka no.
[Epic 4G General] SINNN:
Absolutely NO! Did you all see what happened to the Evo Shift? That thing benchedmark looooowwwww! And not to mention the down grade on the screen. Really? Htc, your doing it wrong.

And if the 3d looks like the nds, shot yourself in the nuts.
[Epic 4G General] Slvrshot:
I can't stand the Epic. Ideally, I'd go back to iOS but Sprint doesn't have an Iphone. Anyhow, the answer is no. I'll probably get an EVO 3D.
[Epic 4G General] SpicyBurrito:
You know..When I said that answer, I meant I was going to keep my Epic and say "Screw you" to the EVO 3D. I just realized my answer made it seem like I said I'm going to ditch my epic, which I'm not. It has its flaws(Most are fixed in ROMs), but I dropped 250 for it(With tax) the week after it came out, so I'm not switching anytime soon.
[Epic 4G General] ezsoulja:
The evo shift is for the beginning user and of course that phone isn't gonna put out,.. they made that for users on a budget but wanting the keyboard, they should have slammed the evo with a keyboard with 4.3 screenn 0_o!!
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
The EVO 3d is pointless...

here is why:

1) Without ice cream or apps to support the dual cores you effectively have a single core phone that will perform around the same as an epic..maybe slightly better...

2) There is going to be a quad-core phone and ice cream by end of year and prob apps that support multiple cores by then...thats when it will be ideal.

3) Yes 3D as is is a gimmick...To be fair at CES I have seen a glasses free 3d OLED TV screen made by LG and that was the most awesome thing I have ever seen..completely blew Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus away...

but on LCD, I have seen the best CES 2011 had to offer for 3D LCDs and its all meh...hurts your eyes just looking at it..

4) We have yet to see what kind of lockdown HTC plans to do on it...

Don't get me wrong, once Ice Cream comes out and apps make use of dual cores I expect Evo 3D to be a big upgrade over the Epic other then maybe the GPU..but by then I'd already be rocking a Quad-Core phone that makes the Evo 3D pale in comparison...

When buying hardware you gotta know when to buy..otherwise your device becomes outdated in a month >.>..the Evo 3D is just a little to late to the game..

Ps..If anyone thinks HTC is better then Samsung they are lying to themselves..I am not saying Samsung is better then HTC either..they are both so and so..Samsung just happens to ave better hardware due to them owning most of the components.
[Epic 4G General] deano0714:
Keeping the epic... 3ds too much and waiting for gs2 or better.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I'm due for an upgrade in August. I want to see the GS2 before I make a decision. I might just stick with the Epic in the end anyway, but it's nice to have options. I'm really hoping that the Sprint version of the GS2 does not have a keyboard. I never use it, and it just adds weight and size to the device. I get a little jealous when I work on my buddies phones (Facinate and Captivate) and realize how much thinner and lighter they are.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I'm sticking with the Epic for a while. I now must have a keyboard, and the closest new phone to having a keyboard is th Echo(which I think is actualy awesome, despite first impressions), but my brother wants to get that, and I'm getting a Nook color anyway.

Typed by Z using the Gingerbread keyboard.
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
Keeping the Epic for awhile. Right now we are in the phone stage that PCs were in around the XP era when Dual Core Athlon 64s first came out. Everyone and their sisters uncle were throwing around how 64bit CPUs were all the rage when it fact they were useless as tits on a bull unless you somehow got your hands on XP64 and actually found something coded for 64bit and multi threaded.. Which back then was little to none.

All marketing right now with no payoff.
[Epic 4G General] Dsparil:
I will be keeping my Epic until Sprint lets me upgrade at the subsidized price.

I'm not going to pay $600 for a new phone.
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
Keeping my Epic til Spring gets with the program. The people's program!
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I'm switching. I mean, my Epic (and all samsung sprint devices) don't even get the latest PRL's anymore! I'm going crazy over Samsung now..

The 3D definitively isn't a gimmick though. If you didn't notice the Nintendo 3DS broke every record in the books for selling records and it is running the same 3D setup except with a crappy screen and non-HD. The EVO 3D's screen is very impressive, but the Super AMOLED screen still has an advantage yes. However, the SLCD has better battery life for sure...

Idk I would say don't judge a book by it's cover. Everyone really needs to try it out before you decide to be prejudice against it. June 5th is the rumored date ;)

Also like someone said before, the 3D is basically optional too.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Epic does everything except hdmi out. That is why im switching.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
This is my thoughts exactly.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
My brothers samsung instinct s30 geot 60677 and 01115.

Typed by Z using the Gingerbread keyboard.
[Epic 4G General] usagi111:
Nah, I'm Epic till 2012...Evo 3D, Galaxy S II, etc...not hearing none of that...
[Epic 4G General] kalel_293:
depends on how the display will look..
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
I see no reason to replace my epic. Got to have a hard keyboard and don't think I can ever go back from amoled screen. When they make something like an epic 2 I'll upgrade.
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
I'm good with my epic. For me the deal breaker was the physical keyboard. Not really feeling swype or a virtual keyboad plus the super amoled screen is umm epic
[Epic 4G General] ficjay:
Everyone has they're own reasons for choosing a phone. I have had a keyboard since my treo and pre days and can't go without one. Despite some peoples troubles with Epic's keypad I actually find it to be superior to every other device I have utilized whether owned or just tried. Now I do use swype and screen keyboarding too but there are times like with passwords and web addresses that you gotta have the real thing. Evo 3d doesn't have one, so although I could easily cough up the unsubsidized price, I wouldn't even consider it.
[Epic 4G General] mouseglider:
Wow my feelings exactly - but if you don't have a need to do passwords and web addresses, virtual keyboard is not bad.
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
PRL updates are easy to fix..so no complaints here on that.

I played with the demo of the 3D DS and I didn't get it...didn't really look different unless you really look. Kinda like the 3D TVs with the glasses.
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Ohh no I know what u meant that's the same thing im doing lol I love the epic and im not to exited over the evo3d I think its going to suck lol.
[Epic 4G General] asj2583:
i already dumped the epic and sprint for t-mobile's g2/4g network (t-mobile is the only carrier that has 4g in my area) and thinking about getting the htc sensation or the doubleshot. i got tired of how there's no development going on for the epic when the g2 has a fully working cyanogen mod 7 and sense 3.0 rom out, both of which are gingerbread when the epic still doesnt have a full cyanogen (6 or 7) working. i learned my leason and should of kept the evo before giving it to my wife, that's why im sticking with htc.
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
^^ You would have starting developing then.
[Epic 4G General] TexasLTE:
EPIC still better = no need 2 change
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Exactly why het rid of your GTR for a civic lol
[Epic 4G General] asj2583:
This isn't a equal comparison and besides if I was a car tuner and there was no after market for the gtr while there is one for the civic I would of dumped the gtr as well.
[Epic 4G General] albie1937:
Im keeping my Epic, getting the Nexus S 4G. I will keep both. Im waiting for a Sprint version of the Galaxy S2 phone. And a nice port of the Nexus S 4G rom to the Epic and I may return it back to Sprint within 30 day period. Epic rom development have been really slow.
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
People need to remember the EVO has had a head start in it's development vs the Epic. Now with the Nexus S finally out, I'm hoping we say our Epic get the benefit of that, along with future upgrades as the Nexus S will get upgrades way sooner than any of the HTC phones.
[Epic 4G General] xbiker321:
If the 3D effect is like the Nintendo 3DS then I'll definitely pass, the 3D effect on those give me a headache.
[Epic 4G General] Akida1248:
I will keep my keyboard thank you very much and as a sprint tech the epic is a tougher phone hands down something I demonstrate in my store daily to people

Running RedBeast
[Epic 4G General] xbiker321:
I definitely agree, I had an Evo and it's a more solid phone but I like the real keyboard more.
[Epic 4G General] Custodian:
Bam! On the money!
[Epic 4G General] TheDub:
It really says something that the Galaxy S line has been out for almost a year now and in that year we have seen many "latest and greatest" new phones (the thunderbolt, evo shift, inc2, g2, etc).

It really shows how Samsung put a lot of time into their platform as to this day it is STILL the fastest single core platform available.. and a year is a long time in this market.

So yes I'm keeping my Epic.
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
Once a good phone that is optimized for dual cores comes out and major apps adopt the ability to take advantage of them, then I will switch. Right now it is like buying a porsche that can't go past second gear.
[Epic 4G General] HooliganAMA:
Two words.

Game gripper.

Not giving up my hardware keyboard.
[Epic 4G General] blkninja12:
They didn't name it the Epic for nothin, I'm too hooked on the keyboard. Plus, rooting it was like turning the knob to "Beast Mode"...you can go ahead and keep tht Evo3D, not worth it in my book. Especially if its anything like the nintendo 3ds, fun for a while, then u feel the veins in ur head pulsating immediately followed by a headache.