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[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
Do you use a MicroSD? What kind? I'm shopping for one and can use some suggestions... From cheap to expensive... Preferably cheap (;

16gb or 32gb

Class rating, I'm not sure. Are there any consideration for this on the tablet?

Ordering from NewEgg so if you have a link for one there, post'em.
[Acer Iconia A500] muqali:
Don't go too cheap. With stuff like this you do get what you pay for to some extent.

Sandisk, Patriot, Kingston, PNY, Sony etc are all brands I've had luck with. At present I've got a 16GB PNY. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178378

I got it for a higher price a while back, but no problems here in my Gtablet, A500, PC or either of my 2 laptops, one of which runs Debian 6.0
[Acer Iconia A500] SmittyRN:
I get mine from Amazon, since I get free 2 day shipping with Amazon Prime. Picked up a Sandisk for a little over $56.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003WGJYCY
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
Is there a difference between SD and SDHC? And what about class?
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
Heres what im looking at-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220547&Tpk=microsd

2x32gb for 80'ish which seems like a good deal to me considering 1 goes for near 70... or am i reading that wrong... wife could use one for her hand me down archos 101.
[Acer Iconia A500] muqali:
SD is limited to 2GB, SDHC was the newer standard, supporting up to 32GB. SDXC is the newest, but I don't think there is a micro form factor yet and I don't imagine our devices have SDXC controllers in them. I may boycott SDXC for using proprietary exFAT as the recommended filesystem too.

Class is a speed based thing. Class = minimum write speed in MB/s(technically a multiple of 8Mbps). So Class 2 = 2MB/s. Class 10 = 10MB/s. Write speeds. Keep in mind reads will be faster usually.
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
Awesome, thanks for that concise explanation.

Does the tablet have a maximum class rating? Will it bottleneck on class 10? I'm looking at the class 6 as a minimum.
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
Well, maybe class 4... I just want to store my music on it and have it as some extra storage. Class 4 should be fast enough, eh? I wont be moving apps to it - ill keep those on the primary storage. But for playing music, accessing pictures, class 4 seems like it would fast enough for that.

Thoughts?
[Acer Iconia A500] butchconner:
Folks,

Also, I have been using SDHC's and microSDHCs for a while now and it

has been my experience that sometimes there a little incompatibilities.

Even good brands sometimes don't seem to work for some reason.

I'm saying, pick your best choice, but that doesn't GUARANTEE it

will work. Need a little good fortune also!!!

Rev
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
Okay, I'm ordering:

Kingston 16GB Micro SDHC Flash Card w/USB Reader Model MRG2+SDC4/16GB

$32.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139195&cm_re=microsd-_-20-139-195-_-Product
[Acer Iconia A500] muqali:
I wouldn't pay any extra for anything beyond class 6 or so for a tablet. If a 10 was on special for a really good price maybe, or if you shared it with a camera that needed a class 10 maybe get one.

I suppose we could port hdparm or bonnie to our tabs and run it from adb shell or busybox and see if different class cards got different rates.
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
I got my SD card a few days ago - the one I linked to two posts up.

Plugged it in (has a usb sleeve) and moved a few songs onto it, put it in the tablet, started the tab, started Google Music and it saw them all. Shut down, moved about 8 gig of music onto the card, plugged it back into the tab, booted, launched Music, took a few seconds but it saw them all, played some and everything is golden.

I'll check in if I ever have any issues.

Thanks for the help folks! (:
[Acer Iconia A500] sarcasmo:
I realize you already got your card, but figured I'd throw in one extra piece of info in the event that anyone stumbles upon this thread in a search at a later date.

You asked a question about class and an early poster provided some great info about what SD card classes mean. I think it's important to note that the class you need depends on the intended usage of the card. High speed cards (those with high class ratings) are most important for applications that require you to write large amounts of data in short amounts of time. The best example of this is photography. Rapidly taking high resolution images requires that a ton of data be written to a storage medium very quickly. As such, you'll see class ten cards in a lot of cameras.

If you intend to do things like store documents, music, etc. on the card - primarily for consumption - you don't need high speed.

One thing to note - if you write to the card a bunch (throw a few new hd movies on there every couple days) you will appreciate a better write speed. Also, picking up a higher speed card means that it can be used for a number of different applications (sharing with a camera for example). Given that there often is only a slight difference in price between a low speed and a higher speed it's usually a better deal to get a higher speed card (the flexibility and time savings are worth a few extra dollars).
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
Good info. Thanks for chiming in!
[Acer Iconia A500] UnicornKaz:
just a small FYI ... :p

with froyo ... SDcard IS SDcard & you can APP2SD or used what I have sworn by -->> MOD INSTALL LOCATION ( in phone forums )...etc

Now.. we have HONEYCOMB... and it partition a little differently. ( although I believed it's the manufacturers that have the final saying... based on the comparision between the Acer & the Asus )

the 2 read your physical SDcard like this:

Asus -->> REMOVABLE

Acer -->> EXT microSD

Your EXT SDcard is only good for storing data/medias ...etc ( currently apps cannot be install on the physical card.

your whole internal is actually partitioned into 2 areas

/ 1 small part for the OS/ROM ..etc

/ the LEFTOVER is actually read as THE SDcard !!!

use a file manager and explore the directories structure to see what I mean !!

so ... 2 future solutions:

1/ XDA DEVs will find a way to let us install to a preferred location. ( and they will !!... in due time )

2/ application developers just have to write their new programs to accommodate Honeycomb ..etc
[Eee Pad Transformer General] timtlm:
So, the Google IO keynote is going on right now. They first announced Android 3.1 is rolling out to the xoom today. *Jealous* Features include resizeable widgets (launcher pro already has this, but way to catch up), and USB host mode natively supported (they demoed an xbox controller. someone needs to try that on the TF).

Also, one unique thing they did announce was the new Ice Cream Sandwich:

Per Engadget's Live Blog

Notice it says "convertible laptops". I'm pretty sure that's a nod to the TF that they will be natively supporting keyboard and mouse. That would be sweet!

EDIT: they also specifically put up this graphic when talking about wanting Ice Cream sandwich to run on all types of mobile devices:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] bobthecooldad:
Is there anyway to download all my emails becuase i am limited to 1 mounth in the settings.

I have oulook emails direct and hotmail.

Thanks Bobthecooldad
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CH3NO2:
go into the settings there should be an option to view all your emails.

once you find it then just resync your email app and you're fine
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] bobthecooldad:
I have it se up to download my emails off my server online so i dont have to use my computer.

will this make any diffrence
[Xperia Arc General] solidkevin:
This is it! Lets see if Sony Can deliver their promise and update their phones ASAP.
[Xperia Arc General] solidkevin:
Very very nice! Man Apple needs to do something big because Android is blowing IOS away at the moment. Google Cloud Storage, New Updates for Phones+Tabs, paternering with manufacturers for updates, wow!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-partners-with-oems-and-carriers-to-guarantee-android-upda/
[Xperia Arc General] jtc42:
Looks like we'll be seeing this release soon after release then! Great news that theyre pressuring manufacturers to update properly. SE made the promise before this, so I think we have every reason to be confident we should have this by the end of the year for sure, if not shortly after release this summer.

Really happy about this :)
[Xperia Arc General] festa20:
So when does it get released to the company's any 1 know
[Xperia Arc General] diggedy:
slight backtrack here

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-clarifies-18-month-android-upgrade-program-details-far-f/

but my money says it will still turn out as good as it originally seemed. Needless to say though this will be SE`s first chance to prove its true to its word and as a lot of people are still dubious about their promises after the failings with the X10, I think if they fail on this upgrade then their credibility will suffer immensely.
[Xperia Arc General] diggedy:
it says Q4, keep in mind that it could be as late as new years eve
[Droid X General] GolfnWrx:
Hi,

I'm told that the Droid-X is comparable with the Snapdragon CPU.

So far what I've seen first hand:

1. My son's Optimus (Qaulcomm Arm V6) on Cyogen 7 @ 800 MHz runs Linpack at 36 MFLOPS!

2. HTC Incredible S (Snapdragon) (stock?) runs 31 MFLOPS.

3. My Droid-X currently 12 MFLOPS, best is 16 MFLOPS.

I'm looking for 30+ MFLOPS, anyone know?

NOTE: Linpack free is in the Android Market and measures the raw computing power, Millions of Floating Point Operations per Second.

Thanks!
[General Questions and Answers] catalyst925:
I've recently upgraded to the latest version of Moxier mail and now wish I hadn't, as this most recent version supports Exchange encryption policies. Sounds like a good thing, but the end result is I can no longer download attachments because of the Exchange policy requiring storage device encryption and Android not supporting device encryption in 2.x. Does anyone know where I can get version 2.8.2 of Moxier Mail?
[Xoom General] jvs60:
tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2234&news=google+music+beta+motorola+xoom+android
[Xoom General] robbiev80:
For what it's worth, Google was using a Xoom for today's tablet demos.
[Xoom General] sangreal06:
and then gave galaxy tabs to all the guests :rolleyes:
[Xoom General] robbiev80:
Yes totally right. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Xoom General] BlackDino:
I dont think there is really any more google devices,

They just announced partners for next gen releases
[Xoom General] djsaad1:
That seals the deal for me, getting a galaxy tab 10.1 instead of another xoom. It seems like google is on board to support all devices now, there might not be another nexus again.
[Xoom General] Kcarpenter:
Touch Whiz UX = Vomit on a big screen.
[Xoom General] burden010:
Yeah Google have always supported all devices, it's the manufacturers and operators that don't. My wife and friends have been burned with Samsung updates so I'm not touching them until they prove they will support their own devices.
[Xoom General] nubsors:
The reason I chose the Xoom. I will always have the most up to date tablet OS. As long as the Xoom meets the minimum specs that is.
[Xoom General] djsaad1:
With google announcing that the tab 10.1 will get honeycomb 3.1 in the next two weeks, that is already a good start.
[Xoom General] Kcarpenter:
And the roll out for the Xoom starts today ;)
[Xoom General] djsaad1:
IO participants are saying that there is no touchwiz on their device.
[Xoom General] Kcarpenter:
Must have changed it since CTIA - all reports there were with a "TouchWhiz UX" interface for their HC Tablets.
[Xoom General] djsaad1:
I guess so, the ones popping up on ebay say they are pure android 3.0 with no touchwiz as well.
[Xoom General] vincentm:
I wonder if the bootloader on the GTab10.1 is unlockable?
[Xoom General] sano614:
The limited edition which was given out at IO does not come with Touch Wiz. That doesn't say the regular edition won't.
[Xoom General] Philio25:
Hard to believe Samsung will be pushing out updates 2 weeks behind Google when they are 6 months+ behind on their older devices. Then again Samsung are all sales and no after care, if they do roll out Honeycomb 3.1 in 2 weeks it'll be back to normal for Ice Cream I'm sure when they are busy selling some other new product!
[Xoom General] vizir:
this.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-launching-in-about-a-month-google-giv/
[Xoom General] MitchRapp:
read a bit more into it - the IO participants received a "limited edition" TAB - made just for them (since most are developpers)

White and Vanilla :)
[Xoom General] novaIS350:
If you watch the keynote they demoed everything on the Xoom. Case closed.
[Xoom General] djsaad1:
Hmm...might be worth paying a premium then and buying a limited edition off ebay.
[Xoom General] ydaraishy:
I would guess that Google endorse hardware with a fastboot-capable bootloader that can flash unsigned images, and with a stock Android UI. The Xoom does both, and the Galaxy Tab 10.1v has the bootloader, so I'd imagine this limited-edition TouchWiz-less Galaxy Tab would qualify as well.
[Xoom General] superflybribri:
That is the same reason why I bought my Xoom. I was happy with the way that they supported the original Motorola Droid.
[Galaxy 3 General] Gullwing-x:
I downloaded it from the market and I tried using it. It asked for superuser permission, I gave it, and I tried taking a screenshot but this error keeps popping up : "pixel format error only 16bpp or 32bpp are supported." The files are saved but are not viewable... Help?
[Galaxy 3 General] i_rnb:
Y dnt u use inbuilt screenshot shortcut ?

It is PRESS & HOLD BACK KEY, THEN PRESS HOME KEY..

:)
[Galaxy 3 General] Humpie:
Awsome! Didn't know that! Tnx!
[Galaxy 3 General] Gullwing-x:
Didn't know that either! Thanks!
[Galaxy 3 General] rjpalmeida88:
screenshot only work on froyo (2.2)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hercegyu:
Hi,

I just update my DHD to 2.36 ver (whit RUU) and i must to reinstall some app. I must install again Last.fm app and on first start it ask me do I want to sync contacts form last.fm and i miss click no. Now i try to reinstall app but i no get this dialogue on begin :( I try to delete acc, and make new in acc and syn still noting. In last.fm, in it settings i can't turn it on.

How can I reset sync setting for last fm, or any other account in acc and syn. How to get that dialogue do I want and how to sync contacts?

Tnx
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hercegyu:
Pls any :(
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hercegyu:
I found solution for this...reinstall app(wipe user data too) and restart phone
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yufina:
Can I just use 1.85 with my SGS1 or what is latest version?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azzledazzle:
you can use any version of ODIN you like, but a lot of people (including me) recommend using version 1.7 as this seems most safe and stable..
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omyg:
why 1.7 'seems most safe and stable' for sgs1 ? any other opinions, facts, statistics ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aventu:
I'm using Odin 1.85 and I haven't had problems yet.
[General Topics] hpnotiqdaze:
newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/05/10/national-emergency-alert-system-set-to-launch-in-nyc/

Oh gosh... can't opt out of all the government spam messages... This is beyond pathetic... Last thing I need is the government texting me that Obama just won his bracket in Fantasy Football...
[General Topics] j1k:
good thing i dont live in the city anymore...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] paleozord:
I notice that if I apply an older WM 6.1 to my 6.5.3 device, I get the old style popup/context menus where all the options appear on one screen, rather than the newer, larger, more "finger friendly" menus which require scrolling up and down to see all options. I like the old-style ones better.

Unfortunately applying an older theme also seems to have the side effect of messing up some of the icons on the bottom menu bar so that they either don't display at all, or display incorrectly. Is there any way to cause ONLY this old-style menu change to occur, without messing anything else up? Either through a registry edit or some other way? Alternatively, is there a way to fix the bottom menu bar on 6.5.3 when a 6.1 theme is applied?

I haven't done any theme editing before so if anyone could provide any assistance it would be greatly appreciated, thanks...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] indic8r:
Hey just wondering. I flashed stock Rom using odin. version 2.3.3 baseband xxjvo build number xxjvh. Is there a root for this version or a custom Rom like this version or do i have to flash older stock Rom to gain root access
[Galaxy S I9000 General] coldflid:
You could use cf-root or fuguroot
[Galaxy S I9000 General] indic8r:
Which is best
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Gammelgustav:
There is no "best"

What counts is your own opinion

BTW: there are custom JVH-ROMs ;)

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] indic8r:
Thanks man. Much appreciated. Important looking for somethin similar to jvh as the battery life is outta this world.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eloisant:
Cf root is closer to stock. Use it if you want just root and minimal modification. Fugumod brings a modified kernel supposed to improve performances.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] haicho1818:
Is there a way to install wp7 on htc hd2 with mac osx?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] mrventura:
Not without bootcamp...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wardecke:
im not very good at inglish, but i'll give it a try...

i dont know if its me only but here it goes.

last night i was making a phone call using mi earphones, so i just speak to the phone (without putting it next to my ear) and suddenly the call stopped.

so i call again and then the keyboard appeard.

i was looking at the screen and realized that when i speak next to the screen, the screen take it as a touch, but then found that it only needs to be blowed to activate.

can you test if it happens to you, thanks.

pd: im using cm6.0 and baseband 55
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OmegaRED^:
Did you remove the plastic layer off of the screen.

The screen is a bit moisture sensitive if the layer is removed.

Get a thin screen protector.

:)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clixt:
^ What he said. That's why i wipe hands first coz my hands sweat a lot.. lol
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OmegaRED^:
You mean.. what she said.

:)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clixt:
My bad lol
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wollie88:
Noticed that to, just order an aftermarket screenprotector and its fixed.
[Epic 4G General] KL4V1CL3:
See here for overview of conference.

Live version

In regards to Android updates...

-"New guidelines! Man, this is going to be huge. Google's laying out a timeline for how long it'll take a device to get updated once a new build is let loose, as well as how long it'll be updated beyond that."

-"These shown will be provided timely updates for at least 18 months provided the hardware can handle it. Whoa. WHOA!" -Samsung included here

http://media.xda-developers.com/images/editor/separator.gif

-"The keynote's moving on, but our head is still spinning here. And we're sure the heads of Epic 4G owners are as well." Engadget targeting us.

Linky.

So it looks like Google is taking care of fragmentation. Also they announched Ice Cream Sammmmicch and their goals for unity. In addition, Google Music. Quick get your invites at http://music.google.com

Also, looks like Google has prepared a sweet Arduino dev kit for USB + bluetooth (in the future) for Android devices. Definitely a ton of potential.

Also, they announced Android@Home-Home automation for Android tablets/phones.

And yes... I capitalized NEWS versus Huge, just to be different.
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
Good for Google for taking the proper steps to mend the biggest problem with their platform.
[Epic 4G General] SpicyBurrito:
Heh.

/10char
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
This is interesting
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
Free Galaxy Tab 10.1 for attendees! I'm jealous!
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Good stuff. So I guess the "Samsung will never update past Froyo" crap can be put to an end for good. Sprint/Samsung both on board (maybe forced by Google, I don't care how) to support updates 18 months into the life of the devices (if they can handle it) which they SHOULD when they took away the yearly upgrades from most folks.

Also, the movie rental thing Google is releasing looks NICE. So much for Samsung's media hub. Google isn't charging an arm an a leg for rentals either.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
It was put to bed for good with ED12.
[Epic 4G General] KL4V1CL3:
That's 5,000 Galaxy Tabs. Damn. They know how to put on a show.

Everybody should watch it, a lot of cool stuff. Remember, this is only the first day of I/O.

Also, Engadget's front page is full of I/O stuff right now if you don't have time to watch the video but still want some more info.

Oh, and I thanked you k0nane to make it so you have 1001 thanks. Sorry.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
True. Guess it puts to bed that they never will update past Gingerbread :)

I have little doubt now my phone will at the very least have Ice Cream before my upgrade time rolls around.
[Epic 4G General] Xerloq:
You need an "s" in your link:

http://www.youtube.com/user/GoogleDevelopers

Fixed it in the quote.
[Epic 4G General] KL4V1CL3:
Fixed in op. Thanks.
[Epic 4G General] bender_123:
With the close Sprint/Goog collaboration on Voice I bet Sprint is going to start coming fast and furious with updates.
[Epic 4G General] mpscmedic:
I cant wait till 2.4 comes out!!!
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
I just can't wait for official gingerbread lol
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
By the way, where was Kyocera on that list of partners? I pity anyone who gets suckered into buying that dual screen disaster.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
unless they pull an HTC Hero/Samsung moment on us >.>
[Epic 4G General] bender_123:
I would think that about a year ago, but the AT&T+T-Mob and Verizon+iPhone make Sprint the natural choice for stronger Google ties, as it needs the "best" hardware and software to compete on a level with the two giants. This process has already started with Voice integration and releasing a Sprint Nexus

The closer Google holds Sprint, the better it is for us and the better/faster the updates come to the Goog Network.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
At the same time, that puts Sprint as the only major carrier without an iphone...and I hope they dont go deeper into trying to compete with it by putting all their resources into 1 phone basket... like they did with the Instinct, Pre, Evo...
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
Now if the carriers and manufactures can come to a agreement on how to properly handle dud phones. I by no means hope there is another debacle like the Samsung Moment was but it is a shame what some had to go through to get rid of that lemon and stupider Sprint kept selling it even though its issues were documented to the umteenth degree.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
I don't want to burst any bubbles, but everything I have read about the 18 month update thing pertains to "new" devices. Not saying they won't apply the same standard to our phones and other phones, but the announcement was from here on that new devices would stay updates for at least 18 months.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Actually, it say "devices with compatible hardware" whatever the definition of that is. Im hoping single core hummingbird 1ghz is "compatible"

Typed by a man standing on a toilet, eating a bacon sammich.
[Epic 4G General] JOLTnPEST:
I would hope ice cream is or else some Nexus S owners will be pissed.