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[Xperia Play General] dsswoosh:
I think it is a fair assumption to make that the playstation pocket games are encoded with an algorithm that playstation pocket decodes.

This ensures that you cant grab a ps1 iso and run it on playstation pocket.

Sony E wouldnt make any money selling games if you could simply grab an iso and run it.

Afaik though, the games are still being emulated. Not running natively. It is too much work to decompile old games, reprogram them and recompile them for too little profit.

Ps2 games will be emulated on xperia play 2. I doubt we will see them before. I would like to be wrong though. :-)
[Xperia Play General] svenk919:
The devs shoyld still have the source so ps2 games could be ported to the xperia play. It's more off a question if the investment will be worth it.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
sony only have to release source if it's covered by the GPL and anything playstation isnt :p
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
Maybe there is a chance for ICO :P

http://astrange.ithinksw.net/ico/
[Xperia Play General] svenk919:
I mean that devs can port their own games and release them on the market (for a fee).
[Xperia Play General] Unrealwolf:
First, nobody didn't announce anything, that PS2 thing was just a rumor, Sony itself has never really confirmed it. Second, Sony didn't even release best PS1 games for Play, and the current list of available games is quite ridiculous (i mean, Super Boarders? Jumping Jack?! C'mon, Sony!).

By the way, did any of the devs/hackers take a look at Playstation Pocket and available PS1 games for adding support of .isos and .pbs? That's the only reason i'm checking Play forums. I've read that Geohot is looking forward for Xperia Play, but that was a long time ago.
[Xperia Play General] zerojay:
You will not see PS2 games on the Xperia Play. Geohot will no longer be touching the Xperia Play as per his lawsuit resolution with Sony. PS1 games are running under emulation on the Xperia Play.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
Sony has confirmed that ps2 games will be availible just not for the play..... i quote "playstation 2 games will be availible when the playstation suite launches for tegra 2 based playstation certified devices"
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
Please dont misquote me, i never said the ps1 games were not emulated, i said that the play does not emulate ps1 games like conventional emulators.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
10 char ......
[Xperia Play General] Unrealwolf:
Is there an official press-release from Sony? Googling your quote leads only to this thread.

Only source about PS2 on Android i've seen was the article about PS Suite on tegra2 in Tegra Zone android app, but the part about PS2 titles was removed very soon after the article was posted - it seems that Sony didn't like it.
[Xperia Play General] tonymontana079:
If I remember rightly they are the same file types used for the ps3 psn downloaded content which is eboots maybe theres a way to use the ps3 eboot maker already available to make our own isos play on our play using the built in ps emu. :confused:
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
Thats an idea, but someone will have to write a hacked loader, to interface between the emu and the sd card :)
[Xperia Play General] noxlord:
You are right, Sony does not need to emulate anything or use retro-engineering to get ps2 games working on the Play.
[Xperia Play General] dsswoosh:
Which basically brings us full circles to the point at hand.

Financially it makes no sense.

They need to gather a team together to decompile, recode and recompile game code.

Running natively on another piece of hardware is far too much work compared to emulating on more powerful hardware.

Ps2 games will be emulated or nothing.
[Xperia Play General] zerojay:
Guys, it's simply an emulator. The PS1 games are all playing under emulation - yes, just like the other free emulators on Android, just officially endorsed and with official documentation on how the original machine worked so that emulation could be more proper than the free alternatives (and with extra protection/encryption/features).

No one in their right mind would attempt to rewrite an entire game's code for Java for each and every single game they want to release. It would end up costing the company more than the original version of the game. The only time you see stuff like that happen is if they decide to do a full remake of a game. You'd have to be insane to do it any other way.

There's no "java tricks" that are going to magically allow you to recompile games to make them work on the Xperia Play. Anyone that knows anything about programming and has worked on console games before can tell you that. Also, Sony doesn't receive source code from 3rd parties. When you submit your game to your publisher, the publisher takes the source code and archives it. It only sends hardware manufacturers final mastered disk images.

An emulator is the ONLY way you do this with any financial sense unless your hardware is already backwards compatible with the hardware the original game ran on (it's not). You can't simply recompile console games like that. You pay a team $300,000 over a year to make the emulator once that you can use to play hundreds of different games you can sell at $5 a pop... or sure, you can spend double that amount *per game you want to sell* if you want to go the recompile/remake way.
[Xperia Play General] Clyzm:
The best Sony can do is write an interpreter or an emulator. The Xperia Play is most certainly not fast enough to interpret PS2 code on the fly, so that leaves us with an emulator.

All things considered, there's probably a fair shot of PS2/PSP compatibility when we consider that the PSP ran PS1 games through emulation, and had significantly lower hardware specs than this phone.

The real question though is whether or not Sony is willing to devote so many resources in the form of time and money into a project like this.
[Xperia Play General] DeadlyDazza:
Just remember, the Play has very little to do with SONY and don't be surprised when they distance themselves from it shortly at every opportunity.

They've already stated that the play or PS Suite will have nothing to do with PSN.

Xperia Play is Sony Ericsson who make phones so don't get your hopes up for anything gaming related that doesn't have anything to do with mobile devices currently in development.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
lets not fall out guys, i love you all too much :D lol
[Xperia Play General] Techdread:
Sony would have to cancel these tablets to distance themselves as they are going to be Playstation certified.:p

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/26/sony-to-launch-two-honeycomb-tablets/
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
Don't you love being a paying beta tester?
[Xperia Play General] replicant101:
hmm, the psp can handle lightweight PS2 games.. And the psp is quite old tech now... Im sure that it must be able to handle something like GTA3 or something old like that
[Xperia Play General] Clyzm:
I'd love to see the source for that. There's semi modern computers that struggle with PS2 games.
[Xperia Play General] illuminerdi:
I can assure you that no amount of knowledge or java tricks would enable the Xperia Play to play PS2 games easily. The only way a PS2 game could run as a "native" app would be through porting.

A single PS2 game *could* potentially be PORTED to the Xperia play, but that would basically be the same as any other game being ported to any platform - it would be very costly, take a long time, and a lot of resources. In other words, it's not worth the effort, since they'd have to sell the game for like 20 bucks, and would only sell a small amount of copies, and is not financially viable. The reason they can sell PS1 games for 5 bucks on the Xperia is because it runs an emulator, so it takes all of 20 minutes to get the game running on the Xperia, which means even a few thousand copies sold turns a profit - hence why emulation is so lucrative for companies like Sony.

As for a PS2 emulator running on the Xperia play: it's *very* unlikely. The PS2 is a 300mhz system, running a vastly different chip architecture than the chip in the Xperia Play, meaning that the Xperia would have to emulate the PS2, which the Xpera Play just is not powerful enough to do. No amount of Sony wizardry can change that. There is no hard and fast rule about emulation, but to give you a general idea: the SNES is an 8mhz system and it takes systems 200-400mhz to emulate it full speed.
[Xperia Play General] Krislawl:
in one of the interviews with sony ericsson they stated that sony would be announcing stuff at e3 for the xperia play. sony will probably be the ones to bring over psp/ps2 ports to the xperia play.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
Right i was talking about playstation games not ps2 games, other people were talking about that .... But in retort, the xbox 360 plays original xbox games under emulation and is nowhere near 3 or 4 times as powerful lol i understand wt you are saying though and totally agree
[Xperia Play General] emann56:
Hmmm http://www.pcworld.com/article/228195/sony_ericsson_xperia_play_first_look.html

PC world is reporting this : Sony Ericsson told me today that it anticipates even more titles--fromboth PlayStation I and II--to become available via the PlayStation Suite, a library of game development tools.

REALLY!? PS2 games? I'll believe it when I see it
[Xperia Play General] TDMaster:
the PlayStation Suite is Nvidia new idea (i think) to phones with Dual Core plus Tigra GPU..
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
the ps2 titles will be availible for tegra 2 based playstation certified devices not the xperia play :)
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
you have the playstation suite on your xperia play, it has nothing to do with nvidia, they have tegra zone :)
[Xperia Play General] emann56:
They asked Sony Ericsson not sony. Sony will be making the tegra 2 based tablets but im pretty sure sony ericsson has nuthin with terga 2 based.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
Dont get me wrong, id love to be wrong, imagine final fantasy x on the play :D
[Xperia Play General] dsswoosh:
Playing PS2 games on a phone without hardware keys will be useless.

Touchscreen is horrible for emulator games.

Really...

Really...

Bad.
[Xperia Play General] emann56:
I don't think you are wrong but i'm just quoting what pcworld said. I don't know where they got their info from.
[Xperia Play General] nagara11:
well enough of spoiling the good news here, let's just hope for the best that they can create one. eventually all of us here will benefit if they succeeded, we can play ps2 games in a simplest way, we cannot predict what can happen but the only thing i know is that technology grew faster that almost everything is possible. i own a xpria play so hahaha i hope to play FFX soon.
[Xperia Play General] arpit85:
may be they were talking about their (work in progress) Xperia Play 2 ;)
[Xperia Play General] ncaissie:
I have said this before and everyone flipped out. I think you are beating a dead horse. We will just have to wait and see. I do think that Sony may port PSP or PS2 games to the play.
[Xperia Play General] SondreVAIO:
There is no reason making a new Xperia PLAY :P
[Xperia Play General] typikal82:
I bet IF they do any PS2 games they will be ported and not emulated.

I do remember God of War being mentioned when PS Suite was originally announced, but nothing since.
[Xperia Play General] ncaissie:
How do you know how much it would take financially? Feel free to link your sources.

Edit: I just noticed this is an old thread. :( Stop diging up old threads for nothing.
[Xperia Play General] dsswoosh:
For one, decompiling, and recompiling natively and testing takes ages.

For two, the PS1 games sold less than ive had pairs of trainers.

It really doesnt take a genius to figure out that for financial reasons, a native PS2 project is going nowhere on the Xperia Play.

I must agree. PS2 will either be emulated, or nothing.

And since its highly unlikey there is a skilled enough programmer in the World to make a PS2 emulator run smoothly on the hardware of the Xperia Play, it is nothing.

edit - just realised you quoted an old post of mine. I guess im agreeing with myself LOL !
[Xperia Play General] crono141:
In this thread: people who know nothing about programming, emulation, or hardware insisting that Sony can emulate PS2 (which is very difficult to emulate, by design) on hardware slower than quad core dual gpu gaming PCs that still struggle to emulate PS2.

Reality check, folks, it isn't going to happen. The problem with emulating PS2 isn't in it's speed, but in its synchronous architecture. That's why powerhouse PCs still have trouble. Synchronizing the 2 emulated chips in software at the speed the original hardware does it is nearly impossible. If sony can't get it working on PS3 without including PS2 hardware in the box, it isn't going to happen on an Android phone. I'm sorry, we'd all like it to, but it's technically impossible.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Just wanted to point something out (in support of your conclusion though). Strangely enough Sony briefly DID offer a PS3 with software PS2 emulation in Europe. They quickly dropped that version of the system as it supported even LESS games than the hardware/software based solution in the original PS3. Basically it worked like crap and pissed off people enough that they just said the heck with it and dropped support.

So basically if the PS3 which is a monster compared to the Xperia Play couldn't do it, you're damn sure the Play isn't ever gonna have it.
[Xperia Play General] crono141:
That version of ps3 (and the second tier ps3 releases in the US, metal gear solid 4 bundle) emulated the cpu in software, but still had a hardware gpu. I may have that backwards, but it only ever worked halfway emulated at best. There was always ps2 hardware present.
[Xperia Play General] SondreVAIO:
I think you ment PSP games :).

Sony confirmed PSP games on Playstation Certified devices. Maybe Xperia PLAY. But its coming to Sony S1
[Xperia Play General] HankKing:
I'l admit i know nothing beforehand but in regards to this topic, i believe everyone is looking at this in at a straight forward view:

Emulation or Porting

But if you tilt your head a little you will see a third option, streaming. What if they are enabling the play station network to stream the game back the phone.
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
Streamed games will have to run somewhere. And if they're not native for PC, as is the case for Playstation games, that will take either an expensive PC port or a cheap and incompatible emulator. And then we're back in the start tile.
[Xperia Play General] crono141:
I always thought that enabling remote play (with PS3) would be a cool option for the xperia play. They had it running on one of their previous phones, so no technical reason it couldn't happen on Xperia Play.
[Xperia Play General] Fyresong:
PS2 only had a 299MHz cpu and 32mb ram. The reason why emulators take up so much more resources than the console itself is synchronising the PC (or other devices) CPU to echo that of the console. On the original console all the hardware was optimized for the purpose of the games it would play; with a PC, it is not. With a great deal of effort and codebreaking, emulators can be made to run progressively smoother on older or lower-spec machines. When PS2 emu's first came out I struggled to emulate FF10 on my laptop, 3 or 4 years later it was running perfectly on the same laptop. Given that Sony own the original system architecture of the PS2, that cuts out one huge step of deciphering the system code. All they really need to work on is how to write an optimal emulation code for the Xperia Play, it's not that we don't have the hardware. So it's not impossible for PS2 games to run on the Play at some point. However, it is highly unlikely, as it will cost Sony a bomb and take so much time for a third party group to succeed. I think Sony will likely focus on developing compatible hardware in their next gen of Playstation certifieds.
[Xperia Play General] darksidewarrior:
Wrong massivley Wrong

the android market / rockstar has now re-released gta3 which quote me if im wrong is a ps2 game and runs smooth on my xperia play with possible talks of re-releasing vice city aswell now they are quite big games and the phone can handle them fine so why not more ps2 games ?
[Xperia Play General] GDSH:
I think they most Lilkely to port PSP games and PS2 but not giving any sign so if thers a flaw or a bug.

Emulation would be obvious but the play would have to modes like the Wii and GameCube.

Because the Wii has more power than the GameCube Nintendo had ti create a new mode for the Wii.

Which Sony are most likely to do tablets probably won't get the update to play these games as such they don't have physical controls :/.

But the xperia play has so expect things to come in time.

LOCOROCO got ported so we could see in the near future Classic PSP and Ps2 games.
[Xperia Play General] skaroger867:
we have a tool to make our ps1 games into android apk files to install on our play using the crash one that comes on the play...would it be possiable to do something similiar with ps2 games and the gta3 game?
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
No, you are wrong, that game was PORTED not emulated. This phone will NEVER emulate PS2 or PSP. The entire game was recoded to work in Android. Any games we get from PS2 or PSP are ported, and recoded to work with the phone. Its completely different, and a whole ton of actual work to do.

No, not rehashing this, and other entire threads on this, in short this will NEVER happen.
[Xperia Play General] Blessi360:
It seems the Sony S2 is just a preview of what Xperia Play 2 would be like... Hopefully they keep the xp design and pack heaps of horse power
[Xperia Play General] Growling Clover:
GTA 3 made it to smart phones and that was a PS2 title so I'm holding my breath on this one. I know that was Rockstar's doing but maybe other games developers might follow suit.

Smart phone gaming is, in my opinion, where the money is at and developers might take a shot at it. I'm a hardcore gamer and I'd rather play PS2 games on my XPlay than invest in a Vita.

brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy
[Xperia Play General] Selim873:
It's not like there will be games flying about out of nowhere, porting does take a LOT of work! Yet, if there's any hope for a game to be ported, Ty The Tasmanian Tiger would make a GREAT mobile title! :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] puri1:
On the stock Inspire there a battery charge status comes up when you charge the phone while its switched off. So my question is, am I going to loose that after root and s-off my phone ? Thanks.
[HTC Inspire 4G] puri1:
Anyone ? ? ?
[HTC Inspire 4G] black_mobility:
You shouldn't lose the animation as long as you still have a stock ROM. Can't say what happens if you flash a custom one.
[HTC Inspire 4G] -Kevlar-:
It's not on inspired ace
[HTC Inspire 4G] puri1:
K thanks .
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Opus Dei:
Hy all xda members...

I really need your help.

I have HTC Magic mytouch3g and I want to change the menu look and to update my firware....

This is what I have:

SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT-1.76.0009 (SAPP10000)

CPLD-12

RADIO-6.35.08.29

Dec 8 2009,17:38:48

Firmware 1.5

Baseband version 63.18.55.06ju_6.35.08.29

Kernel version 2.6.27-5b476e83 htc-kernel@and18-2 #989

Build number 3.05.401.3 CL#98222 release-keys

Can any one tell me how to downgrade(because someone told me that this is a latest ver.) or to upgrade to 2.1 or 2.2 firmware...

Pls help....
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] basscheck12:
Try looking here
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Opus Dei:
I finish only this

Step 1)

Download and extract the contents of RootTools to C:\roottools

Step 2)

start a command promt (cmd)

type:

cd c:\roottools\windows

Step 3)

Make sure that your device has usb debugging turned on by doing:

push "menu" -> Settings -> Applications -> Development -> make sure that "USB debugging" IS CHECKED.

now install the app that will root your system by typing:

adb install C:\roottools\App\UniversalAndroot_1.6.1.apk

Step 4)

Start the app from your device... it's called universal androot.

The app will automatically check your system version.

But, just to sure - verify it then push "root :-)"

Wait for it to finish..

If all goes well then you have ROOT :0)

And thats it....cant do anything else.....
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DonJuan692006:
Why can't you do more. Is it erroring out? You need to provide more info, we're not mnd readers here.

Sent from my fingers.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Opus Dei:
Sry, you right...I alsow do this:

If your radio starts with 6.35 type:

adb push C:\roottools\6.35Radio\Recovery-RA-hero-v1.6.2.img /sdcard

But have problem whit this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=756918 - STEP 7...I really dont get it....

There I dont understand where to type LS and SU.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DonJuan692006:
Step 7 is done from the command prompt on your computer.

Sent from my fingers.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Opus Dei:
Ok but what about this...
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Jon2555:
Do you know any version or modified of Igo that fit Folio 100's screen?

Or

Can we change it?

For GPS use TetherGPS.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] elbuga:
i have a vibrant 4g but when i used odin it restarted and it only shows galaxy s i9000 logo and stays then i try recovery and nothing happens:confused :
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] golmar88:
Sounds like you flashed a Galaxy S (i9000) rom and/or kernel. You need to get one of the stock rom's, I would suggest KD1, and flash it with odin.

Don' flash anything that is not in the Galaxy S

4G

forum! ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] elbuga:
Thank you its finally back
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] KonfusedGeek:
This small guide is an instant GPS Fix tried on Samsung Galaxy SL I9003 and may work on other phones. This small guide will reduce the time taken to lock to satellites and has been tested inside a building with 8 floors and I was able to achieve lock to 4 satellites.

A much better guide to GPS Fix is here : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13133654&postcount=142

Since that guide requires a little bit of manual work, so this is just a small software tweak ;)

So here is what you have to do:

1. Turn Off GPS

2. Open LibTestMode. If you do not know how to open it then you can open it by typing the following code in the dialer (Froyo Only): *#*#3214789650#*#*

3. Under "Application settings" Change "Operation Mode" to Standalone. (Some people have reported better accuracy with MS Mode)

4. Under "Application Settings", Change "Timeout(s)" to 100

5. Under "SUPL/CP Settings" Change the SERVER & PORT to supl.google.com and port 7276

6. Reboot

NOTE: The attached screenshot is inside the building. I have received better results outside and accuracy of upto <40 feet was achieved.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] S.K.Pingua:
Cold Start- GPS.

Hi there,

My Samsung Galaxy Pro was a bit reluctant in locking on to satellite signals, it used to take no minimum than 5 minutes.

Then I chanced upon an

app in the market

: "GPS Aids"... Do check it :)

Just wanted to know your views on "GPS Aids" & such alike apps...

Im now getting GPS lock in less than 5secs with 9-10sats in view & 7 in use inside my 3storey building surrounded my such more buildings and tall trees.

The best accuracy rate I have achieved is 2metres

& most of the time it is 4metres :)

Thanx,

S.K.Pingua,

New Delhi.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] woozydevotee:
Gps aids? does it really work so well? let me try it
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] trip007in:
Yes GPS AIDS V2 is a great software. I am getting GPS lock within 3-10 seconds on XXKB3 FW.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] matapollos:
i'll try it and then post about ;) thanks for the advice!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] woozydevotee:
Gps aids works really well indeed, i get a lock within seconds, thanks a lot mate
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sakindia123:
Gprs

can any1 provide free gprs/3g for airtel??
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] awazil:
is all i9003 need this fix ? cause in my device gps is OK .
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] trip007in:
Its an application, not a fix. You should try once. Its amazing...