yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 4G Android Development] sunsean:
In the rest of that post that you didn't quote, I more or less said the same thing, I very much appreciate Sense's infrastructure over AOSP. With everything from how sleek it looks to the functionality of important elements like the dialer, I agree that Sense is superior. In terms of basic, no holds-bar efficiency though, I still think AOSP gets the win - with my experience at least, I get longer battery life and (slightly) faster performance with AOSP roms than Sense roms.

There are many different elements that we could be talking about here when saying "functional" - i.e. functional in the UI elements it offers? Functional in terms of speed/battery life? All in all, I think it comes down to personal preference. When I run an AOSP rom, I feel like I'm trading some UI functionality for a lighter rom that is a little faster and offers a little better battery life.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] blahblah1227:
Reallie its free? Why don't they just give it to us as a standard in our plan if its free? But i will call them for this awesome feature haha
[myTouch 4G Android Development] mulletcutter:
Yep, i actually did that this go around
[myTouch 4G Android Development] TeeJay3800:
The CM7 thread is full of CM7 fans, and this thread is full of Sense fans. When someone posts in one ROM's thread that the other ROM is better, that person is going to get jumped on. Debating which is better has grown long in the tooth and frankly is nauseating. Just my $0.02. :)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] ankou11:
+1.. This has been the only issue for me really since initial release. I only have one BT and that is in my car so can't compare to say a BT headset but have never been able to get BT working correctly. It reads address book starts the call but no audio at all.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] sunsean:
Well Mr. Holier Than Thou, if you don't want to discuss it, then don't post replies that invite further discussion.

Just my $.02.

Don't mean to be feisty, but it's kind of lame to actively participate in a discussion about ANYTHING and then say "I'm above discussing this" - "Condescending it is" as Yoda would tell you.

EDIT: Again - no offense, I know you have a heavy presence in these boards, and much respect, I'm just calling 'em how I seem 'em. More relevant to the question of discussing it - if anyone does want to have a sense vs. aosp debate, it doesn't belong in this thread. So back on topic :)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] truckerdewd:
No it's not free. I think it's like $10 a month
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Ace42:
Is anyone running this rom perfectly with stock radio? I'm asking since I'm trying to be very cautious about making too many changes, I have the bad chip and changing the radio may cause a problem if the emmc goes bad in the future :( . So I have eng SPL for safety but want to keep stock radio for now.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] LewsTherin006:
If you have wifi calling on your phone already, all you have to do is get them to add it as a feature, and its free. It wont use your minutes when you are on wifi calling.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dubie76:
Its funny to me how much people ***** and complain and argue here at XDA. It it were for the awesome ROMs and great developers, I would peopbably not even be here. The h/s that people get in the threads is hit or miss. Some guys are really good and help you out with an issue, most others jump on you or flame you. I know I cant speak for anyone else, but this this known and discussed by many outside of this forum.

I really dont know why more time is spend arguing back and forth than fixing, posting bug reports, and developing the ROMs to their fullest. Yes, I know I am going to get flamed for this post, and to be honest I expect it, sad to say.

Maybe we could work together to push these people out of the threads and turn them back into what they were originally posted for. ROM development.

As put before, just my .02
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dubie76:
I ran it on stock and did not have the performance I now have with the newest leaked radio. This is my observation. Good luck
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dubie76:
One weird thing I noticed is the handover. When I was on a normal call and then switched to wifi it dropped the call. I believe you have to start and end the call in wifi calling. You cant start normal and switch over.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] TeeJay3800:
My initial reply was simply a brief defense of my preferred ROM. I had no intention of getting into a huge debate, despite your insistence that I should have.

EDIT: I'm gonna edit the rest of what I wrote out. As dubie said above, this kind of crap accomplishes nothing.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Ace42:
Due you mean battery life/Data speeds and overall performance/stability? I'm just taking extra precautions to avoid digging myself into a bigger hole.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dubie76:
I cant really say I compared the battery life, but I know with the new radio I get great battery life. I was referring to data connection and overall data speed. They are awesome.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Christopher3712:
I'm running with the latest radio on this ROM and the cell standby is great. I'm not sure I'd run with auto brightness though, mine adjusts, i'm just not sure it does it in an optimal manner. My cell display is a beast and is eating my battery away at a ridiculous rate. In 3 hours, I droped 44 points and the display accounts for 76% of that use. Everything else running is at 2% or 3% consumption, with the exception of Words With Friends @ 5% :D I'm thinking i'm going to just use a widget for the brightness and adjust it manually, keeping it on the lowest setting for the majority of the time.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] warmonger26:
Would someone please answer my previous question.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] LewsTherin006:
im on the stock radio and havent had any problems. my calls and data have been fine.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dubie76:
What is it?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] warmonger26:
Has the WiFi/they cannot hear me problem been fixed? Also, at least with 1.1.0, my reception/bars drop when on WiFi. Is that still an issue with 1.1.2? Thanks.

P.s. I tried the latest radio and my Sirius/XM app would not stay connect but would with stock radio.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] crawler9:
Reception bars drop to 0 naturally, because instead of trasmitting anything over the cellular network, everything goes through WiFi. I use WiFi calling every day and haven't had any issues with not being heard. I do remember that issue when I was using sip calling.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dubie76:
I dont know about the connection problems. I dont use Sirus/XM. As far as the data bars dropping, mine go away when I connect to Wifi.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] warmonger26:
I don't get it then, why when I call or receive a call on WiFi can nobody hear me? And I'm a loud mf. Thank you guys for replying. Is there really a difference from 1.1.0 to 1.1.2? Should I do it?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dubie76:
I would just because its says (recommended release). I like o try and stay up to date with the newest tweaks
[myTouch 4G Android Development] tubmanx:
Wasn't trying to offend you dude. You just didn't mention it in your post. Count me in the "I haven't had that problem with the lockscreen" column.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] tubmanx:
The only issue that I'm having at all with this ROM is a little unresponsiveness from the non-sense widgets. For example, if I'm using a widget like ScoreCenter, it's really hard to hit the arrows to scroll. I'm assuming that it's a result of rescaling everything as a previous post mentioned about renaming folders. They are a little smaller than they should be normally as well. It would be cool if this was eventually worked out, but this is a minor inconvenience to me. Beggars can't be choosers. Other than that, I don't have ANY of the problems that people have been mentioning about wi-fi calling, echo, netflix, H signal, etc. I don't use a BT headset, so I don't know about that. I haven't had a problem with anything that isn't already mentioned in the OP.

My point here is merely to let some of the people who are checking out the thread and wondering whether or not to flash the ROM, that mine (and I'm sure many other's) is running smooth as butter.

Thanks evil D for all the hard work! Very grateful over here.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
Do you have the HTC Glacier or HTC Vision as in your signature?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dispozable:
so far this rom runs great. this is the first time in over two years and three phones that i can use BT and WiFi at the same time! i almost thought this was impossible! .12 runs a WHOLE lot smoother than .6, and with Faux's kernel it runs even smoother. I do have the same problem as the above poster with the widgets (mainly playerpro widget) but it does work, just sometimes you have to hit it twice. either way i dont care, this rom is awesome
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Ace42:
In the rom I think evil makes it say vision to allow NetFlix since everyone seems to want it so bad. It's most likely a glacier, maybe real vision.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] rlink4886:
From someone that's been flashing custom roms since the earliest stuff for the G1, this Rom is truly top notch, and I just wanted to syay thank you to everyone for all of their hard work, and I am looking forward to future updates.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] blahblah1227:
Could anyone else tell me if their stream media player sizing is alittle off? It cuts off at the rite side and the pause/play button is directly under the navigation bar on the bottom rite.. I hope in the final touches before evil moves on to his next project that all resizing issues will be fix.. love this ROM and was a daily for me since day 1 thanks evil for this bad @ss ROM ;)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] blahblah1227:
Oh and another thing I can't edit my personal dictionary it always FC's when I try..
[myTouch 4G Android Development] warmonger26:
I have mytouch 4G, glacier. Although my music app says vision. I guess this says vision now too.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] sunsean:
Yep - I have the same result with the player. This, along with a couple other minor things (i.e. few missing htc widgets), are all that remain for this rom to be truly complete. I'd say as it is it's about 99.9% there ;) Major awesomeness.

And to that whole mess a couple pages back - I wasn't getting all high school on anybody, I was merely defending myself against what I perceived to be a slight from another poster - and just as if one doesn't want a fire to grow, one shouldn't feed the fire, so should someone who doesn't want a rock thrown at them not throw rocks at other people. There's a bible passage about judgement, but I don't go to Church so I ain't quoting it.

I'm all for keeping things on topic and avoiding petty spats, but don't start something and then point the finger at me for responding.

In hopes of peace and community, I apologize to anyone if I offended you with my words or tone. I assure you I have good intentions and am only here because of our shared enthusiasm for our phone.

Annndddd.....I'm done.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] louie101086:
bring swype back new one sucks
[myTouch 4G Android Development] TeeJay3800:
Of everyone involved in the situation, you're the only one who resorted to name-calling and personal attacks. There's passages about that in the Bible too. ;)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] sunsean:
Lol well as I said I don't go to church, so don't quote me. And while I did literally call you a name (Mr. Holier Than Thou - thought it was funny, no?) you used a not very nice word to describe one's behavior, which is a very close cousin. Referring to someone's post as "nauseating" doesn't exactly scream innocent bystander. Lol despite everyone saying that this bickering is futile, you and I both continue to post about it. Hopefully it's at least a good read for everyone else.

And now, just to be different, I'm going to use this emoticon, which is completely irrelevant to anything I just typed: :confused:
[myTouch 4G Android Development] TeeJay3800:
Well, "nauseating" was referring to the "ROM vs ROM" discussion in general, not one particular user's post, so in my mind there's a big difference there.

We could go back and forth forever, since that's the nature of internet arguing. I still don't have a particular problem with you, so I'm dropping the issue at this point. I guess one good thing that's come from is it it's helped keep this thread at the top of the first page where it belongs, since it's the best ROM available for the MT4G (how's that for capping the original argument?). :cool:
[myTouch 4G Android Development] sunsean:
Lol a battle of the wits, I love it. Holmes, Moriarty. Othello, Iago. Yoda, Darth Vader. :p

I could counter that the primal offense was not only the use of the word, but that it came after several posts of you actively engaging in the 'rom vs rom' debate - which gave it an entirely different tone than if it had been your first post on the subject. But alas, we must agree to disagree on that point I suppose.

But as you said, I have no particular problem with you, so I drop the issue alongside you....there it goes, dropped. And we can certainly agree on that at least - this rom is a champ. Nicely capped, sir ;)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] aiwapro:
Bump.

This would really benefit people.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] krazydy:
Well I got the HTC Twitter widget from the 2.3.3 GB leak and it works except the scaling is off and the widget looks small but atleast it sort off works :0). Any way of scaling it up to normal size?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] TeeJay3800:
I don't know how personally, but since it's as simple as pulling it from the GB leak and re-scaling, maybe eViL can do that for a future release. Almost the entire ROM has already been re-scaled, that I wouldn't think one additional widget would be much of a problem.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] :
Hey evil, I just wanted to send my thanks and regards. This is a great rom and I've been using your roms since I had my Nexus One. Great job :D

-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-
[myTouch 4G Android Development] ls1xtreme:
Google Talk???

does anyone else have problems not being able to use the video and voice chat???i can see my contacts with cameras but they don't see me with a camera...i do have allow video and voice chats checks under status...i came from Royal Ginger and it worked perfectly there but really dig sense and the battery life on this rom is awesome...thanx in advance...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] krazydy:
Man that would be awesome if eViL could do it. All I can say is the dude is skilled and I hope life hooks him up :0)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] joeyrey:
u installed trackpad wake? how
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dubie76:
Im working and cant read 27 pages of posts.......DOes the update wipe the device or will my settings and desktop setup stay?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] christop911:
I installed wake up but on genius button not on track pad lol
[myTouch 4G Android Development] boardopboy:
I updated to 1.0.1 about an hour ago and everything held.

I did wipe cache and Davlik before updating.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] sunsean:
Am I missing something...? Lol actually don't care about wake as much as remapping genius=google search...how'd you do it? I was looking at that thread about remapping the genius button, but I didn't think it'd work with this 3.0 rom...?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] RangerLG:
I wiped cache and dalvik and flashed over 1.0. Everything remained.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] ryanolson7:
Great work devs! This rom is super smooth and good for a first release (I'm on version 1.0). For future updates, would you be able to make some update zips that won't wipe everything? If not, it's cool.

Thanks

Edit: Just found out that the new zip won't wipe everything.. my bad. :D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] ps3play:
"Known Issues

There are some remaining graphical glitches. Most of them are minor but feel free to report them.

Non-HTC widgets function but are not scaled perfectly; they may appear small and offset to the left. HTC provides plenty of awesome widgets, so I suggest using those.

Mobile Settings FC's - *Fixed*

Software Information reads HTC Sense version 2.1"

Voice recording and voice search are not listed in known issues is it because they are fixed and not updated yet or am i the only one that cant get it to work?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] felix.akinyemi:
Only thing I really want is track pad wake...other than that I love it...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] sunsean:
It's not just you. It's a know issue, eViL said he's working on it several pages back...hopefully an upcoming update will fix it ;)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dubie76:
Any reason why the .1 update is a full 300+ mb zip and not just the update files? I am not complaining, just curious. Most rom updates and small zip files that contain the updated files.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] eViL D::
Because I like fresh installs.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] domynaite:
Is it possible to get more of the htc hub functioning (works a bit better in the roiyalthunder rom), or are there things I can mess with to make it so?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dragonstalker:
I've been looking into this (for a possible htc hub port to raw 2.3.4) and all i can figure out is that htc has it blocked. There's really no reason why after you log in you cannot connect. I've only actually been "IN" the hub on 1 ROM and that was Desire HD. Seems to be something with IP routing from the states versus overseas.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] domynaite:
Ahh very unfair of them if so :(. It seemed to mostly work in royalthunder, besides skins, scenes, and wallpapers but I feel like I've used a few that still allowed additonal widget downloads.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Nirvana Rules:
Rom is running great. Everything is running smooth great battery life 12 hrs and I'm still @ 53%. Great job eViL D oh and BTW welcome back.:D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thedude1313:
Dito!! i agree dont need preview
[myTouch 4G Android Development] TeeJay3800:
As just about everyone else who's tried it, I'm extremely impressed with this ROM. I've been anxiously waiting a Gingerbread/Sense 3.0 ROM, but was afraid they'd be extremely glitchy and only partially functional. What a pleasant surprise! Not only is this very fast, but in 12 hours of usage, it seems totally functional and stable!

I hesitate doing this, but if I may be so bold as to list a couple feature requests:

- trackpad awake

- "enhanced" reboot menu

- battery % in status bar

- fixed color text in the full-screen weather animation (text can be hard to read depending on background)

It's just about perfect as it is though, so thanks eViL! :cool:
[myTouch 4G Android Development] boardopboy:
Gallery Force Closes...

When attempting to apply an effect to a picture already in the gallery, it will force close (see attached). Rotating and cropping DOES work. Just not the effects.

However, the camera WILL take a picture with the effect applied.

Not a huge deal... just one of those little annoyances...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] kyokyle:
Good find. I have force closing with gallery too

Rom: Cyanogenmod 7.02

Kernel: Faux 2.52 CFS LV
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Cadeo:
I had the same problem with the stream player but I now use the .apk from the thunderbolt Rom now its Fine. Pm me your email address and I'll send you the apk. You need to put the apk in the system/app folder and replace the one this Rom comes with.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] :
Gotten better with battery issues. Haven't used this since 1.6... I can dig it. Good work. Only issue is PayPal app and Bank of America app keep asking for SU permission and no matter if u deny them or not the application will give a "Force Close" message within 10 minutes or so after u close app. Occasionally while using it. Not a problem. Just thought u should know.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] camapghe:
Correct me if I'm wrong, I feel that graphic glitch is worse than ver 1.1.0. Especially clock update is annoying.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] esincho:
What u mean clock updating glitch?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] camapghe:
EX: current time is 14:20. When turn off screen and turn it on again, the clock will display 14:20; but immediately switch to 13:28; and flip back to 14:20. For me, that is annoying because it keep turn backward, and onward again and again.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] :
bluetooth issue

Thank for all your hard work I love the Rom hopefully we'll be getting a update or fix for the Bluetooth issue (not having audio on calls through bt ):rolleyes::D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Playa4Life352:
That's sense for you bro, that's how it was designed. It had to go back in time to flip the clock forward..

On another note, I can't get my 3G/4G to work whatsoever, only edge. Anybody able to compare md5 checksums for 1.1.2 with me?? This edge is killing me!!

MD5: 9210aaeae451acf58ff623e62e812f98
[myTouch 4G Android Development] ps3play:
This ROM has come a long way from the first release and I'm gonna stick with this for a while.. no problems so far I'm using it with at&t and radio reception data everything seems fine.. just wondering is there a way to get more skins? I'm fine with what's there for now but I wanted something girly for the gf.. the teal with white flower looks nice but the flat dock looks like crap.. why couldn't HTC just keep it curvy.. I checked HTC hub already
[myTouch 4G Android Development] fsrick:
yea, I have the same problem. on my friend's computer, it says my device is not compatible for video chat. Even I call them for the video chat, they cannot see the video.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] crawler9:
Are you located in Ohio, by any chance. My family and I are all getting just edge ATM. I switched to an AOSP ROM and the problem persists. I am wondering if maybe a tower is acting up or being upgraded.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Playa4Life352:
No I'm actually in Denver, and I spoke with T-Mobile earlier today and they never said anything about tower outages. I actually just tried flashing back to 1.1.0, and had the same results..

I will try a new sim tomorrow, but do you think there's any sort of way the rom flash could interfere with something like that??
[myTouch 4G Android Development] mulletcutter:
Those of you with EDGE only, goto settings/wireless/mobile network/ and make sure its gsm/wcdma auto. If its gsm thats edge only.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] dubie76:
That's weird because I use that bank app and never had any issues. plus there is an update to it I got on market yesterday
[myTouch 4G Android Development] ps3play:
I just figured out the solution to my question. It turns out the skins bundled with this ROM are different from what HTC intended them to be. I reDownloaded all the skins again using HTC hub and they all have the correct curved dock without a weird rectangle dock blocking the page indicator or missing wallpapers. I can't say if they were just messed up on my phone or they were altered for a reason. But now the skins look perfect. Thank you myself for helping myself out
[myTouch 4G Android Development] sunsean:
I have something similar happen to me with a different app. I use smooth calendar as a replacement for htc calendar widget #3 (until it's fixed at least) and it seems like just about every time I unlock the phone, I get a force-close pop-up for it. Doesn't really seem to affect performance or anything, just annoying for it to pop up literally like every time I unlock the phone...does it maybe have something to do with underclocking with screen off...? But of all my apps, I only get the pop-up for smooth calendar. I used to get it for Equalizer too, but I stopped using that one.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] sdkboy1028:
What is a radio and how would it help me with this rom? Where can I find the best one for this rom?