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[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I hear Ice Cream is just dual core friendly, which means it'll be able to utilize dual core phones better than Gingerbread, but it will still support the higher end single core CPUs now. The hummingbird processor is the fastest single core processor on the market. Isn't the Nexus One running GB right now? Nexus S will 100% have ice cream, since it was just released not even 6 months ago?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Well then, i fully expect ice cream sandwich to make its way to the epic, or galaxy s series in general.

Typed by a man standing on a toilet, eating a bacon sammich.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I also think there is no reason not to honor it...if Nexus S has it then ours should be possible as well..

Ice cream is cool because it suppose to have full hardware accelerated UI for us to take advantage of with our GPUs...

That said I wonder when Ice cream is going to come out...they say 2011Q4..will that be early on or around same time as Gingerbread came out..on December 6th.

cause lets look at it this way:

Epic: Released - Aug 31st 2010 - Should be updated till Feb 28th 2012

Evo: Released - June 4th 2010 - Should be updated till December 4th 2011

Yup, it would make the Evo be 2 days off from getting updates lol..I doubt they'd do that but it would be funny and sad at the same time...
[Epic 4G General] JulieB42:
I hope that does indeed mean more, and faster, updates. I ditched my last phone because it was abandoned by the carrier. My son has it now - at least until the Evo 3D release.

And I may be in the market for a new tablet. Mine won't upgrade to Froyo, much less the new OS. Ah, the joys of being an early adopter.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Oh, how I love Google I/O...
[Epic 4G General] imtjnotu:
they gave away evos last year....galaxy tabs this year....so next year they will give away cars? haha
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
Androids development speed is astonishing. It was just a little over 2 years ago that Cupcake was released. And here we are now at 3.1 with Ice Cream Sandwich right around the corner. To put that in perspective, Windows 7 will be 2 years old in July and if we're lucky see it replaced in 2012.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Ice Cream Sandwich's logo!
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-clarifies-18-month-android-upgrade-program-details-far-f/

*emphasis mine

Not saying that they won't retroactively apply this to our phones, but they certainly didn't announce that our phones are part of this new initiative.

Also:

http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/

*emphasis mine
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Thats not really a fair assessment...as there is something called "service packs"...also you have to keep in mind open source projects work a little different...an example being the Gingerbread release, we saw it come out in December but updates happen 4-5 months later on phones...

But Android development is going smoothly yes..
[Epic 4G General] boomerbubba:
Having read every report from Google I/O I can find, I agree with Muyoso. There has been no announcement that this policy of upgrades for future phone releases also applies to existing phones such as the Epic 4G.

It would be nice if Samsung and Sprint would make the policy retroactive to cover our device, but that is just wishful thinking.
[Epic 4G General] bender_123:
Considering the GB build already leaked (though it is buggy...) seems to confirm that it is coming, leaving only ICS as the only likely upgrade to fall within the 18 month time frame. It is likely the Epic's final update would be ICS anyway. The Galaxy S line is at a year old at this point already (since its announcement).

Remember, it is 18 months past launch, not since you bought it.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
YAY! That means we still have another year support for the Samsung Galaxy S series!!!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Hopefully!

Typed by a man standing on a toilet, eating a bacon sammich.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Personally..there are 4 questions I'd like to see Google Answer:

1) What does Google and/or manufacturers consider "timely"..a week? a month? or more?

2) Sprint in the past has pulled the stunt saying both the HTC Hero and the Samsung Moment are incapable of future updates due to hardware limitations. Even though we clearly have seen HTC Hero's run Gingerbread and Samsung Moments running Froyo.

3) In a scenario where a new version of Android comes out at the last few days of the 18 months life-cycle. Will the OEMs/Carriers choose to update the phone, or will they simply claim that its outside of its 18 month or continue to support it.

4) In case of some manufacturers, some phones come out internationally before they appear here in the US, will they support it past the original model?..For example, the Samsung i9000 came out in May 2010, Giving its guaranteed life cycle of November 2011...While the Samsung Fascinate came out in September 2010, assuming an update similar to how Gingerbread hits in December 2011..will the Fascinate be updated till March 2012, or will it share its end of lifespan with its parent i9000 models.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Even I can answer number 4. They may be part of the same series of phones, but the i9000 and Fascinate are two different phones. So, their 18 months would end seperately based on release date.

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[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
We will see (k)GB:D, ice cweam sammich on the other hand is really going to depend on how different gb is from ice cream. If a lot of the frame work is similar, it improves our chances of seeing ice cream for the epic.

It worries me though that sammy is trying to use that pos fs(rfs) in the epics gb build. That's cause for concern in its self, as I'd be willing to bet ext4 will likely be the mandatory FS for ice cream.
[Epic 4G General] sneerpeer:
this is great news, send more updates !:)
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
It may sound like that...but lets look at it from the manufacturers perspective...if 1 carrier releases the phone later then everyone else..and is within the 18 month cycle while others are not...would the manufacturer really spend resources just to update that 1 carriers device?
[Android Themes] cyber_pete:
I am trying to modify the framework-res.apk. I just change the image files, nothing else. Same names just different image. And when I overwright the framework-res,apk on the device with the modified one, the new icon show up, but the search functionaliy on the market breaks, I get FC every time I tryt to use it. Does anyone know what could be causing this?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gimen:
For an instance, I tried to play with my brother Asphalt 5 HD and he has a Dell streak. The prob is that his phone has an option for local play, and mine (htc hd2 with gingerbread) has only over internet, with accounts and so one, even it`s the same game installed. How can I resolve this? thanx
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] masterchop:
Hello how did you make the game working, i have the same build and rom and i cant play any 3D game on it, i used DesireHD ROM and that one worked perfectly

Please help me "D
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pianoplayer:
I've been watching the Google IO and they said that we have updates for 18 months provided hardware allows. Does this mean we will get 2.4, 2.5, and so on?

If so, I LOVE YOU GOOGLE! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smokeey:
Ice Cream Sandvich is coming to our phone. I wouldn't doubt it, with such a huge userbase and the dev community that we will have it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k_nivesout:
Thought this applied mainly to new devices although with the dev support this phone has I'm sure we'll see ice cream sandwich even if it isn't "official".
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pianoplayer:
Obviously, I mean without developing ourselves, as in an official update.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
I don't think HTC will roll out 2.4 officially for this phone as it has been declared end of life so gingerbread will likely be the last official release for the phone. But CM8 maybe? :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] werdna87:
Its here!

i was actually looking around YESTERDAY and found this release... i havent tried it but it sounds like Icecream!... i would post the link but i dont have enough posts to give it... PM me if you want it
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PGleo86:
put spaces between the http like h t t p : / / w w w . whatever. c o m
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rudacris:
When you're done deleting all the spaces from that link, I have a bridge to sell you.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] werdna87:
i dont quite get what you are saying but here it is h t t p ://forum.osmasterminds.com/showthread.php?73-ROM-Android-2.4-Leaked-v4.

sorry it took me so long to reply i kinda forgot...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
That is 2.4 gingerbread not 2.4 (or whatever its going to be called) ice cream
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] werdna87:
really? sorry thats kinda confusing... you sure cause 2.4 should be android 2.4... never mind then its still a newer version though :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
Yea it is and it's significantly faster than gingerbread 2.3.x because 2.4 is basically gingerbread for dual core phones
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] werdna87:
how exactly are they going to change ice cream then? Isnt speed all they changed in gingerbread also?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beard0:
From what I understand ice cream sandwich is just faster and yea lol o and its not 2.4 that's still gingerbread

Sent from my Dinc
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
Android 2.4 Gingerbread is faster than 2.3.x gingerbread and Ice Cream will be HONEYCOMB + GINGERBREAD
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] werdna87:
ok so yah i get its not Ice Cream but why doesnt anybody make roms off of it if its faster?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
Because Its a google internal build it's not complete so it has bugs but it's good enough to run as a daily driver.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] werdna87:
oh... haha thanks for clarifying
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beard0:
Yea one android for both tablets and phones :D lol my friend doesn't believe me when I tell him bout that

Sent from my Dinc
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bjb_nyj101:
No, that's not how it works. The "agreements" (which aren't even baked fully) only apply to phones moving forward. The manufacturers did not include previously released phones in this deal. Now, HTC can update old devices to Ice Cream Sandwich if they wish, but the deal doesn't obligate them to.

Sent from my HTC Evo 4G
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
exactly.......in other words most likely no official ice cram for us.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rgw5018:
In light of the I/O announcement last week, Ice Cream Sandwich will not only be an upgrade for phones, but also for tablets and Google TV, so I'd say it's more likely to be at least 3.2 if not 4.0. This update is supposed to bring the goodies from Honeycomb (holographic UI, richer Widgets, etc) to phones, which may require more advanced hardware. However, the beautiful thing is that Ice Cream Sandwich will be open source, so our fantastic development community will surely have this on our phones, hardware permitting.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brando56894:
I thought they said at I/O that Ice Cream Sandwich was supposed to be Android 3.4 since it will merge Honeycomb (3.0) with Gingerbread 2.4 (which is supposed to be an upgrade to 2.3 to support dual core devices), and hence will be a massive UI overhaul.

This is another reason why I'm waiting to use my upgrade until the end of the year :D
[Vibrant General] Segnaro:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-partners-with-oems-and-carriers-to-guarantee-android-upda/

It's about time Google fixes this problem :D
[Vibrant General] Abu-7abash:
Enough talking and on with the action Google. Proceed to punching T-Mobile in the nuts for their lazy ass.

Oh and Segnaro; HTC<Samsung :D
[Vibrant General] Xan_Kriegor:
I hope that really happens...
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
It's Google, so it will happen.

All Google IO attendees are getting Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 God damn it. I knew I should have come.
[Vibrant General] geoffcorey:
details are pretty scarce from what i've seen. What i want to know is if this is retroactive, and haw far back it applies?
[Vibrant General] Emama:
but it does not say anything about how long the update will be pushed after release isnt it?
[Vibrant General] ZachLL88:
18 months I believe
[Vibrant General] Abu-7abash:
18 months is the period in which an android device will get that promised regular update and support. Obviously.
[Vibrant General] Mr. Apocalypse:
I'll believe it when i see Vibrant GB source on my desktop :)
[Vibrant General] Longcat14:
Best announcement of the Google I/O would be if they announced that Samsung is pushing GB to all Galaxy S phones.

I want this announcement. D:
[Vibrant General] PaiPiePia:
Now the question is: Does this announcement apply to phone that are already released and sold. ex. Vibrant.
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
As long as the hardware allows it it will happen. We don't know if vibrant can handle the ice cream sandwich.
[Vibrant General] geoffcorey:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-clarifies-18-month-android-upgrade-program-details-far-f/

still nothing about any sort of timeline or retro-active support.

would be GREAT if done correctly.
[Vibrant General] Longcat14:
Well, at least Samsung can't say our hardware doesn't support GB, since their international version has it (i9000).
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
Yup, Vibrant can handle GB of course. Don't know about the ICS.
[Vibrant General] movieaddict:
thts great news!! lets hope it happens and it sticks
[Vibrant General] Longcat14:
ICS probably will need specs that are like the SGS2. So don't be surprised if we don't get ICS, but I'll be happy with GB, since Samsung has to update it. :D
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
yayyyyy 18 months left before we get GB now thats a direct date!
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
I wouldn't be too sure of that. The Nexus S is using the same SoC as the Vibrant and google is going to pass at least one major update to it, Ice Cream Sandwich. Plus our GPU is powerful enough to supply the holographic UI.

Look at the N8 for example. The CPU is weak but the GPU can still nicely support the UI along with no lag.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
If Nexus S gets ICS and we don't.

I'm going to Samsung's store and saying HERE i dont want your phone and go back home and pick up some other great phone of that time.

their the same damn phones, both should get the same treatment, no?
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
two things

1 - this thread says "guarantee," Google didn't say that.. they said "encourage" - BIG difference.

2 - They also said almost all modern phones can handle ICS - so we should get that - my opinion. It would be helpful I think if AT&T was not buying T-mobile (they don't need / they wont support us).
[Vibrant General] Vibrant03:
tickets cost 500+ dollars for google IO.. so technically you get a discount on the tab, it will cost more than 500 bucks in market when it comes out...LOL.. good deal, plus you get to be an audience at the conference..
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
yes, and the ticket is only $100 when you're a student. Jesus christ.
[Vibrant General] Vibrant03:
oh really?? oh wow... so those students got a galaxy tab as well? 5000 tabs were given away, so im assuming yes? or just those who paid 550 bucks?
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
And you get a Nexus S tomorrow.
[Vibrant General] Vibrant03:
http://www.google.com/events/io/2011/register.html

found this.. so ya those students probably got a tab as well , all those whoever attended..
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
yup, that's really crazy. I bet that place went nuts.
[Vibrant General] Vibrant03:
only to developers?

and not just to anyone who attended? ughhh i dont know.. LOL
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
no no no

the whole EVENT is for Developers.

anyone who went there.. Google says their devs.

I mean their not gonna catch you and go HEY YOUR NOT A DEV YU HAVE NO APP!!!!!

They paid, they went they got a tab and they left happy.
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
it's for everyone who attended the event.
[Vibrant General] nbhnohome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxzucwjFEEs

Take time to watch the whole Event. Awsome !!!

NOW give me GINGERBREAD . It's summer already God Damn it !!! :D
[Vibrant General] Longcat14:
They are the same phone, but one has updates released by Google, and one has updates released by Samsung.

We all know which one will be getting updates before the other one, I kind of except GB on the Vibrant around the time ICS is released.
[Vibrant General] movieaddict:
by the time the vibrant gets gingerbread ill be on my sg2! lol
[Vibrant General] Vibrant03:
LOL LOL.. i better go next year then.. hehe
[Vibrant General] Longcat14:
I know, I'm a student, so I'd only pay $150, and they got a freaking $500+ Tab, plus a Nexus S they are getting tomorrow.

I am SO going next year.
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
update:They're also going to receive a chrome notebook.

I want to kill myself.
[Vibrant General] emonero:
well is a good deal if you live close by....let's say you live in NY...the airfare+ hotel + food then it's not a good deal.
[Vibrant General] Longcat14:
I have a friend who lives close. He would do it for me.

Sent from my SGH-T959
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
good thing is I live 30 minutes away from SF. Also they give these attendees a discount to nearby hotels.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
yeah.. you cant just say im going.

the people there are LIMITED.

The I/O tickets got sold out in less than 2 minutes this time.

YEAHHHHHHH. good luck.