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[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tjjensen23:
People harp on about the SG2 being all plasticy, but compared to the atrix it feels much more solid. the case shell on the atrix creaks whenever i hold it, whether that be age 'wear and tear' or what not.

i find the camera to be much better than the atrix

the screen is much better on the SG2 but thats personal choice

i do miss quirky features such as the fingerprint reader and webtop but thats about it. Everything else the SG2 does the same if not better. Even in stock form, no mods comparing the two it becomes much greater. as gingerblur fixed alot of problems (motoblur!)

saying that, the Atrix is still the 2nd best device i had!

my 2 cents
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tjjensen23:
handtec, got it sent from UK to AUS in 4 days! :D
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chubby_Skunk:
Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.

1) Moto Atrix

2) LG Optimus 2X

3) Galaxy S II
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rubb:
So guys....I just want a nice cellphone. I don't care for root and stuff. So, I guess the atrix will be fine for me right?

Do the G2x and S2 have been unlocked yet?

ty vm and sry about my english, Im trying to improve:)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrew149:
If you want the best everyday phone I would buy the atrix battery last a day or more!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seven2099:
LOL @ the guy who said the phone creaks in his hand. that is such utter LIES.

In any case, Samsung has a pretty horrible track record with the i9000 quality. Just look up i9000m internal SD on google and have fun sorting through that mess.. A phone that just auto nukes its internal SD whenever it wants.

As for the Atrix it has IMO an amazing screen (which you can use at full brightness) at little penatly on the giant battery.

If you wanna save battery and use juice defender the max I have gotten out of it before dying is 56 hours.... on a single charge.

So yeah.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] temp91:
Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ccrows:
Things aren't perfect with the SG2 there's the:

1. Heat dissipation issues were people are already returning their phones just for that alone.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1068663

2. WiFi Issues

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1067473

3. (Much More Than Normal) "Dead Pixel" Screens

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1065935

4. Lack of Notification LED - (most knew about this already)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1058596

I'm not going to say which phone is better since they All 3 phones have their issues, but it's also interesting to watch people dropping $750-$1000 already thinking the SG2 will be the perfect device. (yes there's no perfect device blah blah blah...)

Anywhoo... For the record, I'm not totally trilled with the Atrix at this moment either. I've also thought about switching to the SG2 already myself, but IMO it's too high of a price tag to give it a chance right now.

The bottom line, there really isn't really a clear cut winner...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crnkoj:
hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it and am running gingerblur, im very happy with the phone, however the case really is squeaking (back when i was in the US i had another atrix4g which i went to replace cuz the fingerprint scanner locked up occasionally, that one had perfect build quality, this one just squeaks at the top, and she cover shell is somehow too big for it...) and the locked bootloader is really annoying me, the screen is very good in my opinion. If i would be buying one of the phones now i would go with the LG i think (my main reasons: tegra2, unlocked bootloader, proper support), as to the sgs2 its too big in my opinion (seriously hwo needs a 4.3" phone, even the 4" are too big kind of - id prefer a 3.8"/3.7" like the original htc desire, but noone makes high end phones with that screen size..). Cant say much more about the sgs2, as that it doesnt have tegra2 which i prefer over other dualcore ARM based chips right now. Atrix has way better hardware specs than the LG tho: more ram, more flash, better battery, webtop, fingerprint scanner - love that one lol, the only worser spec is the camera on the atrix. so go figure For stock use the Atrix would be the best ithink
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] narta:
How did you manage to fix the wifi issues?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crnkoj:
used other drivers for the wifi, the stock ones from motorola are missing my country ROFL, retards at moto. im trying to get a UK /system dump or at least the wifi drivers to test them out.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blue Puma:
e-penis is big enough.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
why not htc hd2 :D.......its the better device :P

just kiding xD...but I have one now :P , just sold my atrix, I will try lg and SGS2

IF you want test...why you don't bought 2 and return to the store the phone you don't like it

I see many opnions.....and many FANS off samsung, lg and motorola

soo, if you want the opinion...ask in xda general not in motorola session....
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blunted09:
thats probably a very good idea. I love my atrix so im going to lean towards this phone.

General might be less bias.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ltrain996:
Can someone explain exactly how theming works? Which themes work with which roms, and what builds? I installed the ec01 nitro honeycomb theme over my ed01 evil fascination rom and it worked perfectly, even though out was based off of ec01...
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHoLyx:
If you flashed nitro over ef, the things included in nitro will erase ed01 stuff.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nitsuj17:
Full update.zip themes are essentially themed frameworks and apps built from a certain rom or mod

Only use themes that specifically say they are compatible with your rom or you will either bootloop, run into problems, or best case strip away many of the mods and functions of the rom
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystycs:
Is there a 2.2.1 fixed blurry with smilies around? I saw one but its without smilies and i cant find anything for bi-winning. I hate aosp! Anyone know of one that works?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kawika:
Try pushing it from ur ROM alone. If that one doesn't werk try the one from the MALICE ROM i know it werks. Good luck!:)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystycs:
Yeah i am looking everywhere around i9000 forums and here im about to try one from a rom on the i9000 lets see if it works if not ill look at malice! Im trynig to get it for bi-winning
[Thunderbolt General] twofourturbo:
As soon as I noticed the Thunderbolt Kickstand I was thinking polish time.. But didn't want to jump the gun.. Till I noticed the clear coat was practically falling off.. along with everyone else's. All you need is about 15 mins and the will to mess with your big dollar TB.

If your clear coat is falling off. Just take your nail or a pen cap and finish scratching the rest off. Try to avoid using metal unless you want to put some knarly scratches in it. If you do use metal. Be very light and go left to right and not up to down so your following the factory lines in it.

Once done grab the masking tape and tape under and all over to keep the pretty T bolt clean.

Get some mothers or what ever polish and go to town. Just use a little bit and you can use your finger and start buffing. By just the texture of your finger it will remove the factory lines.

Then wipe off and continue till its nice and pretty Haha..

Make sure you wipe everything off with Q Tips and all before opening your kickstand..

Once cleaned off. Pull the tap and admire your new TB mirror.. Very nice..

Hope this helps. Any questions, please ask...
[Thunderbolt General] MONKY_1:
Looks nice:)

-Monky_1
[Thunderbolt General] mlpjunior:
It's always nice to know what the finished product will look like before deciding whether or not to try something like this, so thanks for being the guinea pig.
[Thunderbolt General] mcmillanje:
Yes, thanks! I will probably be doing this once mine starts peeling.
[Thunderbolt General] knownscrewup:
nice gunna do this today when get off work
[Thunderbolt General] Ubermicro13:
I think I'll try this tonight. Thanks for this post.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
Something so simple, and most of us never even thought of doing this. Thanks for this, mine is peeling off and I was getting upset because i'm anal about things like that lol
[Thunderbolt General] twofourturbo:
Only downfall I'm seeing is, fingerprints and what not on the kickstand. But not any different then the glass screen.. Haha

Sent from my Thunderstruck
[Thunderbolt General] magicriggs:
I like it. I will definitely do this later.
[Thunderbolt General] FP5241:
I took some 1500gtit sandpaper to my kickstands and kept the brushed look. I like that the "with Google" is etched in there and remained.
[Thunderbolt General] jblist90:
sandpaper worked like a charm for me too. happy with the brushed look for now, may consider the polish.
[Thunderbolt General] dajogejr:
It was only a matter of time.

Polished looks great, but it's sometimes a PITA to keep looking that good.

Nice work!
[Thunderbolt General] TheStick13:
Kind of ironic, given how many people have GREAT ideas for software changes/upgrades, haha!

OP, thanks for the pics. Looks great!
[Thunderbolt General] mr.fatface:
Looks great! When mine peels bad enough I think I will polish and then re clear.
[Thunderbolt General] jackspace:
Toothpaste will work too

Most toothpastes will work for this sort of thing. In the Army, we used to take the lacquer layer off our various brass items this way. Great seeing a fix like this here. The new mirrored surface comes in handy.

Thanks!
[Thunderbolt General] bmx5656:
looks really good, I don't get why so many people are having issues with the finish peeling off? Mine is perfect and i use the kickstand daily. But if mine does peel i might polish it.
[Thunderbolt General] syu78:
how does it look with the finish peeled off w/o polishing it? i prefer the brushed metal look.
[Thunderbolt General] TRU3L3GEND:
Mine was badly peeling off so i decided to do it also. Taking the coating took a lot longer than expecting using a plastic pen. I then found an aluminum pen to easily strip the rest off without scratching it. I sanded the scratches out, but didn't have any fine sandpaper to clean it all up. I'm kinda liking the slightly brushed/polished look though.

Without polish or coating

Polished

Will probably sand it down a bit more and polish it up more later on. More scratches are starting to appear, but im happy with how it looks.
[Thunderbolt General] lippstuh:
doesn't look bad, always thought it'll look good. thanks!
[Thunderbolt General] lilmoney30:
Looks great! I'm going to use one of those green scrub pads tonight.
[Thunderbolt General] Immolate:
This is pretty cool. I'll think about it if my kickstand starts to peel.
[Thunderbolt General] Z51:
Looks good
[Thunderbolt General] apfire21:
Love the chromed out kickstand! Awesome idea. I used the 1500 grit sandpaper and then a little mothers. I like it better then the original look! :D
[Thunderbolt General] eraursls1984:
It's polished not chrome, polished aluminum looks way better than tacky ass chrome.
[Thunderbolt General] BigJohn826:
Looks good. I think I may give this a try.
[Thunderbolt General] justin654:
That's extremely expensive though. You can buy a whole new phone for that.

@Op, The second I dropped my phone, The finish on my kickstand chipped. And the polished finish looks EPIC. Def gonna be doing this.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
Call me old fashioned, but I expect a $500 device to work out of the box. It's also been pretty sad watching everyone's desperation in either getting a stable CM7 build or a kluge of the Gingerbread pre-release to try and make all the phone's functions work properly. I've been pretty vocal about my dissatisfaction which I know has irked some of you. There were others, but they already bailed when their remorse periods ended so as we all jump ship there should be fewer "haters" and nothing but the positivity you seek here in G2X-land.

I was going to wait until 6/8 and get a Sensation but the phone re-booted in the middle of conference call to Asia and that shall we say was the end of that. I'm getting an international SGS2 instead. It'll arrive next week. It's an HSPA+ phone so it can do 21MB down on AT&T. To get on to AT&T's network I'm getting an Infuse 4G for $99 on 5/15 which I'll eBay for $400 easily. I'd be lucky to get $300 for the G2X once the Sensation's out and the comments on this forum certainly don't help the resale value. The SGS2 is $725 so the net after selling the Infuse will be $425 - $75 less than the G2X. I also won't have to be dependent on any carrier any longer and will get updates directly from Samsung.

Unlimited voice, unlimited messaging, 4GB of data, and tethering is $99 a month and AT&T has terrific international data plans when you're roaming where T-Mobile has none. Also, I'd rather pay $8 a GB if I go over my limit than be throttled to dial-up speeds by T-Mobile. My relationship with T-Mobile's always been love/hate but the G2X did me in. I'll still lurk and comment on this thread and if you have any SGS2 questions just ask. Also, modding may not be a dead horse. Paul posted the SGS2 firmware this morning.

See you guys in a year on AT&T-Mobile ;)

P.S. - Gamers beware of the SGS2, it's been determined the Mali GPU doesn't support x-frame
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
X frame????
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
Oops. I was doing two things at once. X-Plane. It has a bigger impact than just one game, I was just too lazy to elaborate.

Here's the link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1068567
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Thanks for posting your life story. Did you really need to type all that just to say you were buying the GSII? Nobody cares how you are going to acquired it. I am getting the GSII aswell but you don't see me making posts about it. I'm thankful that I got a working G2x from day one because I can tell you right now. Its the best Android device I've ever used. I haven't had a single problem with it. Lastly, every phone has problems when its released. If you don't think so then u haven't been in this game long enough. The G2x wont sell for anything less due to these forums. I think your giving these forums a little to much credit if you think they a driving phone sales on eBay down. LOL...where do you guys come up with this stuff?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
Yea that gpu is going to bite a lot of gamers in the ass. This is why the SGS2 was never an option for me. I'd love that screen paired with a tegra but I don't see it happening soon.

Tegra looks like the most future welcoming chipset IMO which also deters me from the Sensation.

Sorry to see you have so many problems but you do what you have to do. I always have low expectations of stock rooms although the 2.2 stock did run great for me. I flash not to fix issues but to flash. I actually have more problems running custom then stock but that's half the fun because I know that it helps to get to that point we all would like.

So while a slight backlight bleed isn't viable for some, a gimped GPU for locked boot loader isn't for me. Aside that, the rest can be fixed and patched. That I can handle.

Also, good luck getting anything out of Samaung. Those guys never update their phones. Gingerbread was promised last august and they still don't have it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
And it's posts like this from people like you that I'm going to miss the most on the SGS2 forum. And comparing your phone history to mine, you've severely underestimated my experience.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I never said u weren't experienced in the phone world but if you are then you should understand no device is perfect within the first month of being released. Christ, my Vibrants GPS was never perfect and I used it for 8 months. I just don't understand why people are expected to get a perfect device when they buy them as soon as they become available. Like it or not, we are the beta testers.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Aaron636r:
Bye...bye...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] greengoldmello:
The post would have held more water...if more of your points were valid that is..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
Hope you enjoy your new toy.

Pretty good phone but G2x is better ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jsapp:
Don't let the door hit ya....

Sold that phone to get this one and have no regrets.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
I got my phone on 6/19 so I have a lot of history in this forum. I've posted lots of positive comments which still hold true. I like the phone's form factor, I like the way it's built, I like not having a UI, and it's fast as hell. I get a new phone every few months. I've never had a new phone that didn't have bugs - to your point, it's to be expected. My issue with the G2X (and I know there are those with different experiences) is that the basic connectivity functions are unreliable, at least in it's current state. The LCD does kind of irk me, especially since the iPad2 announcement, but I could have overlooked that. It's a pain in the ass to change carriers and swap out the phone so soon and I really wanted to like/keep it. But I can't wait weeks/months for it to be 100% stable.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jayohwhy:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you want a phone that isn't meant to be tweaked then you are better off with an iPhone. You will never be happy with any android phone because android is meant for people who want to personalize and make their device theirs.

The g2x is a guiness world record holding powerhouse. It doesnt help your case to write a pompous and useless post.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
Really, where did you get a Galaxy S II? I'd be interested in your experiences. Since it doesn't work on T-Mobile, I assumed you used it on AT&T. Where did you use it and what were your data speeds?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Why do you need to wait weeks? Just keep exchanging it until u get a working phone. It really is easy. I promise. I also get new phone ever couple of months and I've had to exchange everyone I got. That's exactly why I always purchase at a brick and mortar rather than online. I don't know why your living with a phone that doesn't work but I wouldn't stand for it. Go exchange it and hopefully you get a perfect one like me. Only took me 4 exchanges to find a perfect one. Lol
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jsauce75:
Great....thanks for keeping us up to date.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] laker666:
Its safe to say Barry that no one cares. See ya
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bdkinney:
Really? Um...good luck with the SGS2. :rolleyes:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] CB620:
Wow. This forum has become the dear diary of threads. I guess since the galaxy is almost a $1000 it won't have issues. You said you doubt the g2x will be worth $300 when the sensation comes out. Lol that was a insult. I guarantee the g2x will have more support and roms than the sensation. How can Cyan develop a rom, when he said himself he won't if it has a locked bootloader. I like what the galaxy can do but once it launches in the US and carriers strip it down like the original it wont hold its international value. Ill ride it out with the g2x. I'd rather return until I get a close to perfect instead of paying mortgage prices on a phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ScooterG:
*chuckles*
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Rusty!:
The SGS2 will be Tegra powered in some markets.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] hendawg1983:
Well if the SGSII is anything like the Vibrant you'll have some complaining to do.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] GideonX:
Lol, serious? Good luck with that one.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Androidfreakz:
LoL Samsung I learn my lesson the first time around with the vibrant. IMO they make junk as far as phones. Are there any apps or games on a "SG S2" that take advantage of duels cores? Nope only Nvidia Tegra 2 @ the moment. I myself have had an Evo 4g,iPhone 4,craptivate,vibrant,g2,g1,hd2,hd7,Droid x,Droid incredible, thunderbolt oh and a nexus s , plus a Zoom. I PERSONALLY love this phone stock froyo with a few T-Mobile apps.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] JasjarMan:
I don't think most people care about games on their phone. Other than games why else is the g2x a better PHONE than the galaxy $2? I really want to know.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jdkackley:
Have fun overpaying on att. And, um, good luck with those updates directly from samsung! Lol

#samsungneveragain
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ickster:
I'm coming from the Samsung Indulge on MetroPCS. It is a very nice phone overall, but it does have several issues.

The number one reason I left was the total lack of response from Samsung. I went through nightmarish exchanges with their online customer service options. Direct questions ignored and bald faced lies told. It's pretty bad.

This is the number one reason I left.....their customer service is in name only. I see LG jumping right on the issues on their site. Acknowleging that there are indeed issues and promising to fix them....communication with paying customers, what a concept. Big difference from what I see.

I spent many an hour battling with Samsung and never did get anything that qualified as help. At all. Their position, to a man, is an advesarial one instead of a company standing by its customers . I even had the ear of someone sorta high up. So I voted with my pocketbook. No Samsung products will ever cross my threshold again. This is the ONLY power I have over them. I have a long memory.

And aren't you afraid this brand new phone is gonna have a bunch bugs to work out as well, as Outlaw points out? From the fat to the fire.

Good luck with your new Samsung phone. My two cents.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] t0ny0:
Cause its not Samsung!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Androidfreakz:
Stock rom running unrooted old

froyo with duel 1ghz TeGrA's and

A flux capacitor lol.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] CB620:
i had the nexus s, but i felt like it still lacked some things. the galaxy s2 is pretty much the successor of the galaxy aka the vibrant aka the vibrant 4g which in my opinion was all fails. the nexus s was the only samsung i owned before than i was TeamHTC, honestly im not a fan. i wasnt a fan of LG either but now i am, but sooner or later i see myself going back to HTC
[T-Mobile LG G2x] baldwinguy77:
Lol that's exactly what I was thinking when I read that sentence. Let us all know when you get that update directly from Samsung ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] XPLANE9:
You mean the same Samsung who already updated the Galaxy S to Gingerbread for a short while and released the source code? You realize the US Galaxy S never got updates because all the carriers suck right?

Seriously, some people spew blind hate towards Samsung. It not like HTC or LG have no issues. My nexus one has the common power button failures and crappy digitizer. The G2X also has light bleeding and random reboots. No manufacturer is perfect, but at least in hardware Samsung builds some very reliable and good phones. The Galaxy S may have felt a little cheap with the plastic, but I have dropped it several times and it looks no worse for wear.