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[Nexus S General] BrianDigital:
well for sprint users a reason to change to the nexus s could be to get away from the rude evo community:)
[Nexus S General] herbthehammer:
Something I don't understand is why people will stay in a contract for 2 years because they do not want to pay the early termination fee. I can understand if you do not have the money right now. Simple math tells you what the cheapest answer is. I will make up some fictitious numbers for my example. Which is cheaper, paying 300 dollars for the early termination fee, or paying your cellphone bill of let's say 50 dollars a month for the next 24 months. Now granted when you change carriers, your first months bill is going to be pretty high. The reason behind that is, you are paying for a phone, a prorated month, a regular month, and all the fees associated with starting a new account.

But all that added together is still cheaper than paying 1200 dollars for 2 years of service. I do understand the differences between long term and short term cost. I also understand that many people may not have enough money to make the switch now. Regardless of you switching now or later, you will still pay the same amount of money when starting a new line of service with a new carrier.
[Nexus S General] matticala:
As far as I know, no one in the world has true LTE yet. LTE theoretical shared rate is ~320 Mbit/s or ~172 Mbit/s in download and ~90 Mbit/s for upload, usually the "merchandised 4G" is a HSPA++ at 48 Mbit/s (where it can reach that rate) or some "early stage" 4G implementation as the entire standard involves deep core network changes.

At the moment it is... merchandise :)
[Nexus S General] linushsu:
Can someone explain if sprint is a mobile operator or another version of Nexus S.

I have nexus S bought with T-mobile, is it possible for me to get 4G on my phone? does it support 4G ?!?! If so, its Superb news, since we have 4G everywhere soon in Sweden.
[Nexus S General] netarchy:
Sprint's 69.99 is 450 minutes and unlimited data, + the $10 fee which they swear is not for 4g (and technically it's not since they slap it on all smartphones), so really their cheapest plan is 79.99 for 450 minutes and unlimited data.

T-mobile has basically the same plan for the same price, 500 minutes, unlimited data (yes you're throttled after 5gig but you're not cut off), 79.99 if you're on contract.

If you're

NOT

on contract (ie; you bought your phone outright), you can get the same package for 59.99 with an Even More Plus plan (basically if you aren't subsidizing your phone, and thus are not on a contract, your plans are $20 cheaper across the board). Sprint doesn't do this. Even if you finish your full contract time on sprint, you'll still pay the same 79.99 per month.

You really don't want to try and claim that Sprint is cheaper than Tmo, they are not. They're about the same if you're on a contract, and Tmo is about $20 cheaper if you're not on contract.

Ultimately in the end it boils down to who has better service in your particular area as to which carrier you prefer.

In my case, I had sprint, the voice service in my area was good, but the data speeds were terrible, so I switched to Tmo, who has excellent voice and data service where I live, and I pay less per month since I own my nexus-s.
[Nexus S General] shabbypenguin:
all depends on who your calling sprint offers any mobile any time with that 450..

also for sprint family plans its 20 bucks a line +10 bucks if they are smart phones.. how much are they for tmobile?
[Nexus S General] mlin:
Sprint no longer has the $10 fee

Tapa tapa tapa
[Nexus S General] matt2053:
That is completely and totally false. Sorry.
[Nexus S General] Greg Tolan:
Hey netarchy....

I thought tmo did away with off contract prices being 20 bucks cheaper? I can't find that anywhere on their site and I could have sworn that when I bought my nexus s the tmo reps telling me that buying it off contract won't save me on my monthly bills.

And yes sprint still hits you for the ten bucks a month.
[Nexus S General] lordsandwich:
Sprint's 4G works great provided you never, ever spend any time indoors. I switched from an Epic 4G when I realized 2.5GHz WiMax loses at least two bars the moment you've walked five feet into a building. Of course, that's provided the 4G radio is even on, which Android tries to disconnect at the slightest opportunity since it's a battery hog.
[Nexus S General] netarchy:
The rep who told you that was wrong. You have to ask to get on an even more plus plan at the tmo store, they dont have them posted online.
[Nexus S General] demo23019:
just dial 611 from phone say cancel it will bring you to retentions. Only they can do this.

just BS them tell them you're tight for cash and and an employee at local tmobile told you to give them a call and to ask about $20 preferred android internet
[Nexus S General] Rem3Dy:
Please do not post information as fact when you are clearly wrong. 3G is truely unlimited. So is 4G.
[Nexus S General] Rem3Dy:
with T-Mobile's new unlimited plan you get throttled after 2GB not 5.
[Nexus S General] demo23019:
ive seen my data usage on my account in red and ive gone past my 2gb cap almost every month since last sept

and ive never been throttled

others have reported same thing
[Nexus S General] Raver27:
I think T-Mobile uses the cap more as a scare tactic to try to keep us in line a lil...
[Nexus S General] mikeyinid:
Wow. Did you read past that post? I stated I was wrong in a later post.
[Nexus S General] netarchy:
That's only on the so-called "Truly Unlimited" plan afaik.
[Nexus S General] blane73:
So I went to the Sprint store 2day, thinking I was going to buy this phone. I compared the screen to my evo. I couldn't bring myself to buy the nexus because of what I saw. Just like all the other Sprint Samsung phones there is this weird green tint. It can't be just me that notices this. It just killed it for me. The reviews say the nexus screen has a better picture but compared to the whites on the evo I just don't see how. I'm very disappointed because I wanted a faster and slightly smaller phone.
[Nexus S General] mrmylanman:
I've been with Sprint a long time (me personally, around 7 years, and my mom's had them about 5 or 6 years before that) and have only rarely had issues outside of the usual of it being a cell phone. Occasionally a mail in rebate would take forever to get applied, or something like that and I'll call up, but they were always very quick to help out with whatever issue I've had.

The Sprint and GV integration is really nice, I activated that a couple days ago, and it's pretty handy.

Overall I love my NS, and I'm not let down by my Sprint coverage either, although I wish I got 4G at my house (it's just down the street though so hopefully before too long I'll get it).

I always recommend people at least look into Sprint whenever they ask my input, as I've never had a bitter taste from them; it's always nice to have a company that seems to "get it".

That being said I've heard horror stories too, so I guess you can only take my word for it lol.
[Nexus S General] matt2053:
Maybe it is your eyes and not the phone? I'm not being rude, I'm serious.
[Nexus S General] netarchy:
If it helps, a lot of nexus users don't like the default colours on the nexus s, but we have a solution: Voodoo Color. ;D
[Nexus S General] blane73:
I wish it was.if anyone has done a side by side comparison vid I would love to see.please prove me wrong.
[Nexus S General] matt2053:
Well I also went from Evo to Nexus (T-Mobile) and the display is probably the single biggest improvement. It blows away the Evo display and its not even close.
[Nexus S General] Babydollll:
I have both Sprint AND T-Mobile.

In MY AREA (please reread those last two words before you flame) T-Mobile is not only FASTER but the signal penetrates soo much better than Sprint's WIMAX. Also as for price points I pay $149.00 a month on Sprint (before taxes, WITHOUT INSURANCE) on T-Mobile I pay $151.90 (before taxes, WITH INSURANCE) so it's pretty much a wash there (although T-Mo has a cap but includes Ins. While Sprint doesn't but also doesn't include Ins)

So while YMMV T-Mobile continues to be my main company and "daily driver"...

There is nothing outside of OT! :) ;) :p :D
[Nexus S General] Babydollll:
FYI. They are changing the cap on that plan effective May 22, 2011.

There is nothing outside of OT! :) ;) :p :D
[Nexus S General] matt2053:
Changing it? What is changing? Do you have a source or a link you could share?
[Nexus S General] jacksonj51:
Yeah nothing like having some crappy CDMA brick of a useless phone in virtually anywhere else in the world.... no thanks, I'll stick with GSM phones!
[Nexus S General] p00kienrayray:
Details on that change?
[Nexus S General] p00kienrayray:
I was debating leaving ATT for sprint because GSM is more convenient, but asides from being able to switch sim cards freely, I don't travel outside of the country often so I decided to make that jump.
[Nexus S General] jacksonj51:
Ok, understand... however depending on your carrier for phones/models to have? No thanks!

Imagine if the DMV told us which cars we could drive... no thanks, I think I'll try the SE Arc, the SGS II, Nexus S, etc...
[Nexus S General] BrianDigital:
ok
[Nexus S General] nickmv:
It's changing on the Unlimited Prepaid plan. It was 2gb, now its "unlimited", which is essentially 5gb unthrottled, anything after that is throttled.

http://androidcommunity.com/t-mobile-updating-unlimited-prepaid-plan-data-caps-removed-20110505/

And seriously though, it's hilarious how slow Sprint's 4g network is. I average 5.5mbps down/ 3.5mbps up on my Nexus S on T-Mobile every day. I've seen as high as 6.7/4.7 at times. Those upload speeds are sometimes faster than my Comcast cable connection. What's even sadder is their 3g network, which delivers speeds on average of 550kbps or lower. Props to T-Mobile for kicking ass with HSPA on this device. Atleast Sprint suckers get a nice phone, too bad their infrastructure blows...
[Nexus S General] hypersonicx:
Guess just depends on where you live at. Here in Nashville TN, TMobile blows LOL. After years of dealing with there slow HSPA over here I decided to sell my G2X and switch to Sprint Nexus S 4G. I went from .50 Mbps download speeds with TMobile to now 8-10 Mbps download speed with Sprint.

Not going to lie, I did see 5-10 Mbps down on my G2X on TMobile but only while I was driving. Soon as I got home speed droped to .50 -.70 Mbps even though the status bar would always say 4G but my speeds were 2G and 3G...

Long story short, choose the network provider thats best for you and your area. TMobile for me in my area was not cutting it.
[Nexus S General] BrianDigital:
So im a sucker cause I went with a carrier that works great for me. Im used tmobile two years ago...ah walking outside to send a text. Oh the times when I wasnt a sucker
[Nexus S General] popular nobody:
Sprint's Network Vision will give them the option to use 1X Advanced, WiMax, WiMax 802.16e Enhanced, WiMax 2, LTE, or LTE-Advanced in the future. T-Mobile will be whatever AT&T decides it should be, and if the merger doesn't go through, HSPA+ or ++, will be their only option for a while. I think T-Mobile is a very underrated carrier and I love HSPA+, but you're seriously in no position to gloat right now.
[Nexus S General] Goonnay:
I left Sprint for the Nexus S, but it's based on the fact that the CDMA phone is useless. If the Nexus S 4g had a GSM capabilities, then that would have been different. I was happy with Sprint's service, except for the ridiculous state taxes and data plans for 4g, in which I could only use traveling to Boston to Providence...but reception was really strong inside buildings to underground complexes.

Either way, I think Nexus S is a great phone, whether it's 4g or not. I'm enjoying the updates from Google, rather than from the actual phone manufacturers.

It definitely will put me up a step, when I travel, and CDMA if I plan on staying within the states. :P
[Nexus S General] nickmv:
I don't mean to imply that everyone on Sprint is a sucker. Sure, if one carrier doesn't work well in your area or inside your house, you're going to go with the other option. However, given that the 2 of them both work well in your location/situation, I'd pick T-Mobile any day.

I know people around here that have Sprint, and outdoors, they get full bars and only average around 3mbps down and less than 1 up. One thing that's always consistent for them is the upload never going above 1, which is sad.

However, when they go indoors, most of them complain that they can't even get the signal come inside the house, and that if it does, it's terribly slow.

I'll admit I was gloating a bit, just because I personally think that WiMAX is a terrible technology, and that LTE is going to win the "4g" war. Yes, I said LTE, not HSPA+. I think, however, that LTE, HSPA and HSPA+ are more reliable than WiMAX as far as building penetration and consistency of speeds are concerned. Not to mention Sprint charges you an extra ten bucks per month for 4g access, yet it's their flagship service they advertise.
[Nexus S General] nickmv:
Also, popular nobody, every carrier has a "vision" Sprint's still building their current WiMAX gen 1 infrastructure, and has a ways to go with it. WiMAX 2 or LTE or any other future technology has a LONG way to go.

T-Mobile announced in January at CES that they'll be implementing the 42mbps HSPA+ standard this year. They also performed speed tests from inside the convention center, that pulled around 30mbps, which is on-par with Verizon's new LTE buildout. I think T-Mobile has plenty more to come...
[Nexus S General] BrianDigital:
wimax is not terrible it can be fast, sprints problem is the frequency that clear was alloted to use with. Sprint is under going a network over haul so in year or so there 3g will be quick like tmobile's can be with a non-hspa+ phone. Then move their 4g network to the old nextel frequency which would do boats loads help for pentaration. Also isn't tmobile now on par with sprint with plans 79.99

I would switch to tmobile but on a family plan makes things difficult but hey they got the nexus(why i wanted to switch)

I love tech and all the new stuff that comes out. I would rather my phone operate on 3g and pull 8mbps down like a nexus s on tmobile its nice. After seeing verizons LTE on a phone its impressive but what the heck will I use all that bandwidth for.
[Nexus S General] hellcatt:
in 6 years i dont ever recall a time when there was a data cap on phones, the cap on data cards just started in 2007
[Nexus S General] culua:
I don't really care how fast well atleast decent amont of speed but, all I want is great coverage and low price. To be honest that's what im getting from sprint. This is my opinion and base off where I live. As for 4g I get about 10m up and 1-2m down. I don't complain only girls do.
[Nexus S General] hypersonicx:
GSM vs CDMA WiMax

Like I said earlier I also had to switch to Sprint from T Mobile.

Sometimes I have to question the penetration of T Mobile GSM signal vs Sprint CDMA WiMax Signal.

At my location which is Goodlettsville TN. At my apartment, my T Mobile phone did .50-.90 Mpbs down speed. BUT as soon as I drive at least a quarter of a mile out and hit the busiest street, my speeds jump up to 10Mbps.

At work also for example. I work in a warehouse, on TMobile my data connection drops down to Edge or will disconnect completely through out the plant.

Sprint on the other hand. Took a Evo into the plant, connection droped down to 1X but never disconnected completely. And at my apartment on Sprint, 3G connection gets me about 2Mbps down on average and 4G WiMax gets me about 8-10 Mbps down on average. Not to mention no data caps so I can stream and download as much as I want. I now use my phone with WiMax as my main internet at my apartment. Got it tethered to my netgear router which then send the connection back out again lol this time to my xbox and other devices.

So like I said, it really comes down to your area and location. For me here in Nashville / Madison / Goodlettsville TN TMobile is struggling.

Sold the G2x which was a beast of a phone and got the Nexus 4G. Phone is a downgrade in the hardware department but I actually have a good network connection for a change so it balance out LOL.

Lastly the one thing that is hurting Sprint WiMax is latency. I see about 100-150ms ping on average. My G2x hit like 50-70ms ping on average but had slow data speeds. Sprint has rough latency but I can stream movies and download large files with ease now. Seen the phone do 1.2MB/s on average when tethered.
[Nexus S General] 903tex:
I tried T-mobile to see how things would go with the g2. And around town it did ok. Pretty spotty. I saw 2mb down but only like 0.20 up. But then when i got home i never got past 0.53 down and up! Also was "unlimited" to capped 2gb data(even called and was confirmed that it was capped at 2gb April 28th) I think it funny how people are arguing over wimax, LTE, HSPA+ and all honestly as long as they work in YOUR area that all that matters. If t-mobile gets bought out, verizon will buy sprint and then any phone you have will be useless anyway. When have people forgot that a phone is a phone, nothing more. I mean i know people who have att and have HORRIBLE service but put up with it to have a IPHONE! I love the community here at xda, but sometimes i feel like these carrier battles are dumb just like these Brand battles.
[Nexus S General] Smokexz:
A lot of these things are very minor to people like me, I don't need 4g cause Sprint doesn't have 4g in my area, however I do have T-Mobile 4g xD.

Just to support my case, Verizon "4g" and T-Mobile "4g" are tested and proven to be faster than Sprint's 4g network. Not much of a plus.

Sent from my HTC Dream
[Nexus S General] matt2053:
Say what? None of those things are true, LOL.
[Nexus S General] BrianDigital:
Ah shucks guys who cares we are googles childern either.carrier
[Nexus S General] snowmanwithahat:
I have an Epic and a Nexus S.... sitting right next to each other side by side the Epic is definitely a cooler color (very slight blue tint on a white screen) and the Nexus definitely is sitting on the hot end of the color spectrum (slightly yellowed).

With that being said the Nexus seems to have more accurate colors, but they're less vibrant. I find either one a pleasure to use because the blacks are still black as night and that's really the shining feature of this phone anyway (ironic, right? ... shining)
[Nexus S General] hypersonicx:
I agree completely. Go with whats ever best in your area. TMobile service was no good here. ATT wanted $500 deposit. Verizon plans look expensive and they will probably want a deposit also. What that leave me with? Sprint! With unlimited to any mobile thats basically unlimited minutes. There the next affordable from TMobile. Sprint was really my last resort ran out of options lol.

Long story short, go with whats best for you! I miss the performance of the G2X but this Nexus S is nice also. Reminds me of my Nexus One
[Nexus S General] eagercrow:
I love how people rave about gsm being usable all over the world. Just because its GMS doesn't mean the radios handle the correct frequencies.
[Nexus S General] jacksonj51:
At least they have radios...
[Nexus S General] Blitzpwnage:
We aren't that bad, there are just a few asshats that give us a bad name lol hondacop comes to mind.
[Nexus S General] krohnjw:
This is terrible logic.

Essentially every GSM device now supports Quad-band GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900. This will get you phone service and 2G data is almost every country in the world: http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html

3G data is going to be another story. The AWS bands used by T-mobile (900/2100) are used mostly in Europe and worldwide for 3G (specifically 2100). The 850/1900 frequencies used by AT&T are used with less frequency outside of the US.

With that said - using a GSM phone you are essentially guaranteed basic phone service (2G data and service) and likely will have 3G data in most countries. Using a CDMA phone you are likely out of luck in most places.

This is a moot point as most people rarely leave the US - but to discount it due to "Just because its GMS doesn't mean the radios handle the correct frequencies." is really not accurate.
[Nexus S General] newdad28:
Got throttled on TMO so..

Left them yesterday (after 5 years of loyalty) for Sprint. Picked up the Nexus S 4G....speeds are great but not as good as before I got throttled (avg about 6 down from the Nexus, was avging more like 10 down on my TMO G2).

But...no cap! No throttling! My bill with Sprint for the same service will be almost $50/mo cheaper (2 phones, family plan).

Wishing I left for Sprint a long time ago!

BTW...I live in an apartment building, and my 4g coverage/hotspot has been fine even deeper into the building. I lose one bar of coverage deep in the building but still get 4G.
[Nexus S General] nickmv:
Yeah seriously, I love how people rave about how the GLOBAL SYSTEM FOR MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS is usable all over the world. That's just crazy talk huh?

I found this information about it, but it was probably some propagandist dude who said it:

"The GSM Association estimates that technologies defined in the GSM standard serve 80% of the global mobile market, encompassing more than 1.5 billion people across more than 212 countries and territories, making GSM the most ubiquitous of the many standards for cellular networks."

And as krohnjw said, almost every GSM phone now comes as quad-band.
[Nexus S General] kalico17:
im very proud of all you GSM users and the fact that you can leave the country and still get service. congratz

FACT: In this global economy, MAJORITY of you cannot afford to leave the country you are in so does having GSM really matter??

and i said Majority..

i didnt say everyone.

dead the topic. it really holds no weight
[Nexus S General] BrianDigital:
Can we please stop this pointless bickering.....
[Nexus S General] Wiley_11:
+1........ :D
[Nexus S General] karnovaran:
Have you been successful with this recently? I'm close to switching back to T-Mo, but I have a hard time believing a store rep will have any clue what EM+ is.
[Nexus S General] mingkee:
Sprint WiMax coverage isn't that great even in NYC.

I am using Clearwire (Sprint's WiMax supplier) and the coverage may be hit or miss in some area.

If you take D or N train on the way to Coney Island/Stillwell Ave, you'll notice there's NO signal at MTA depot. Same thing happens at Far Rockaway/Breezy Point.

There's NO service in Lower upstate area (Yonkers) and you MUST use EV.

HSPA version NS can allow you talk and surf at a time. This is important for tethering as internet is not cutoff when talking (in HSPA mode).

Moreover, I often achieve 4-5Mbps at home. This is close to the device's limit.
[Nexus S General] proxylullaby:
i like cmda phones, but no plan to switch to NS 4G
[Nexus S General] mingkee:
YOU ARE WRONG on 2G part.

2G has fully global support (all 4 bands) as long as GSM is available.

Other than AWS, GSM NS also has 900/IMT which works in Europe/Asia/Australia. Can CDMA/WiMax do that?

One phone going around the world is very important for business person, so it doesn't have to switch to specific phone for specific country (not everybody mirror all data onto ALL phones and it's pretty difficult).
[Nexus S General] BrianDigital:
Let this topic now be moved to turtles
[T-Mobile LG G2x] yungsir2:
If someone could be kind enough to post the apk for T-Mobile TV it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance
[T-Mobile LG G2x] MrCes:
im looking for it as well
[T-Mobile LG G2x] MrCes:
i found it here and it running fine on my g2x

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Android-Applications/TMobile-TV-APK/td-p/513890
[T-Mobile LG G2x] yungsir2:
Thanx man
[T-Mobile LG G2x] revolverdt99:
tmobile tv

i just got my g2x today and i have the tmobile tv app already preloaded...so forgive me asking but what does this thread and that apk file actually offer? no subscription?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] hypmatize:
No its the same as the one that came preloaded. This is for the people who deleted it off their phone without backing it up