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[Atrix 4G General] Chubby_Skunk:
The only problem is that it can only be use for one device at a time and it only works on Desktops and Laptops. Which means, no iPad, iPod, Xbox, PS3, etc. Barnacle is better
[Atrix 4G General] Chubby_Skunk:
Are you dumb? They can just see that you are using A LOT of data, they can't actually see you tethering......
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
no im actually pretty smart, are you dumb?

i never suggested that you use PDANET to download 50gb a month with your torrents, however there have been people served with tethering warning emails who have not even exceeded 2gb so please refrain from making bold assumptions, you could get caught using barnacle with a low usage just the same as pdanet except for that barnacle does not have hide tether usage as a feature

and yes i agree there is a downside that you can only use it on one device at a time and only certain devices, but everyones needs are different, if you are only using your pc or laptop and want take extra precautions to not lose your unlimited plan then use pdanet over barnacle, i personally only need my laptop connected, and realistically you could create an adhoc network with your PC that you tether with if you would like multiple devices connected at the same time

please if you are not here to contribute, just go away i dont want this thread clogged up with a ton of misinformation from a bunch of misinformed people with poor reading comprehension, i was just making a suggestion here, if you dont like it stfu and gtfo
[Atrix 4G General] Chubby_Skunk:
Yeah thats why I've gone over 10gb for the past 5 months and have never gotten an Email. But if you know how its working then you would know that they cant actually see that you are tethering. Its just from data usages from how people have been reporting it. Plus PDANet is a pain to use. I have to have the App on all of the devices I want to connect to? It has to be USB? and only one device???? thats too much to give away when I could be using my custom APN or Barnacle tether.....

btw. its not misinformation, its the truth :)
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
as i said before, there have been people with low usage who have received emails, don't assume that high usage is the method they are using to crack down

are you implying that someone who watches tons of HD quality vids and creates high GB per month usage is going to receive a tethering notice? we all don't really know how its working, so please refrain from talking out your butthole when no one really knows the facts

if its truth as opposed to misinformation, then please cite sources, otherwise youre just talking out your butthole once again, til you can show your evidence, you might as well have made up everything you said

and if you don't like pdanet, theres a simple solution, dont use it, and leave this thread, theres plenty of people who might find this useful and appreciate the extra precaution taken with pdanets new feature
[Atrix 4G General] Chubby_Skunk:
Im talking out of my buthole? Explain how I do that please :)

Here; my friend never tethers and he got an email from AT&T being acused of tethering. Look at his data usage.
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
just so we don't all drop our guards thinking we won't get caught if we just keep our usage low

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/g62wv/i_woke_up_this_morning_to_this_lovely_email_from/
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
ive never used an iphone, so i have to ask, if you are using a jailbroken phone with an app that is not the standard iphone att tethering app, why would it register under the iphones att statistics? i would be much more satisfied with an article or some other more credible source than a pic of a random iphone statistic with your anecdotal experience attached to it (unreliable narrator problem)
[Atrix 4G General] Chubby_Skunk:
Because tethering Apps are shortcuts for APNs really. So the tethering counter counts data going through a tethering APN. Therefore any tethering app that is a APN shortcut (MyWi) would be counted because it goes through the tethering APN.....

So are you going to explain how to talk through my butthole, or are you going to ignore that and look stupid for saying it?
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
Like I said before all u gave me was a pic with a likely story to go with it, please cite a credible source, I have no evidence that the story behind the pic is true, I mean why do u even have a pic of ur friends usage, its awfully convenient and I like to get my facts straight before I buy into something and forums I've learned are breeding grounds for huge amounts of misinformation, honestly u just seem to be trolling here so pardon me if I don't just buy ur anonymous pic with unverified story

And yes talking with ur butthole I didn't think this need an explanation but... http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=talking out of your ass
[Atrix 4G General] Chubby_Skunk:
Alright, then cite your sources saying that people on Android phones are being caught for unoffical tethering and that AT&T can actually see it on Android phones....

btw that picture was for another forum. I got it from my friend when this whole thing started...
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
I don't know how they do it that's the point, no one does, att has not disclosed how they do it in order to avoid to having people figure ways around it, so since we are all just guessing at it, I suggest we err on the side of caution hence why I created this thread to inform people,not to attract trolls like moths to a flame, and for the record I try to maintain my usage around 2gb to be safe because u could be right although I believe I read somewhere that someone with low usage was sent a warning as well so that is where my doubt comes from, truthfully I haven't even looked into how pdanet is hiding tethering usage exactly or if it actually works, but like I said I believe in erring on the side of caution
[Atrix 4G General] nosit1:
I tethered my Atrix to my iPhone 4 when I was working on it at school, probably no more than 20MB. Got a letter in the mail, a call, and the text. I, on average, use around 6GB/month (non tethering). They're just mad that my $2500/year isn't good enough for them. Sorry, let me give you 20 of my unborn children.
[Atrix 4G General] Chubby_Skunk:
Ill leave it at this:

My guess...

AT&T is working there way down the list of people with high data usage or whatever they look for and they are emailing them.

If that is true, my time is coming up.

I'll remember to PM you when/if I get an email from AT&T regarding unauthorized tethering usage.

"At one point in everyone's life (that posts something online), everyone will have been a troll at least once." :)
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
What method did u tether with?
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
So far all I found on pdanets new feature is it modifies ur browsing header info

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1142095
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
More relevant info that could be good news for us android tetherers

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...unauthorized-android-tethering-and-may-never/
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Yes,they can "see" you tethering!

1. The TTL of packets can be analyzed to determine the browser type you are using. In Layman’s terms, this means AT&T can see the browser you’re using.

2. There is also the fact that they can see which sites you visit, and can determine from there what you are doing. If you for example connect to Windows Update, they know you are tethering. They have software which will raise a flag if connections are made to sites like this.

There are just 2 methods which can be employed to see if you are tethering!

<edit> I just looked into PDANET 3.0, and they are in fact hiding tethering by stopping the type of browser you are using being detected as anything other than a mobile browser. (Refer back to my #1 point).
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Please see my previous post, then educate yourself on current technology. This subject has been beat to death already! It is a known fact that high data usage alone does not cause AT&T to respond. It is a red flag for them, but not a 100% determining factor!
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Everything you need to know is in here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=998148

At least that thread didn't turn into a giant flame war... :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G General] zanzee:
The way they can tell isn't by data or deep packet inspection (would be illegal) all device's send a bit in IP headers saying if theyre a router or primary. Using a proxy or SSH tunnel would stop this.
[Atrix 4G General] LancerV:
An IP Header is a packet which would require packet checking, not to mention there is no router/primary IP header since there isnt a router IP Header packet either
[Atrix 4G General] jkrohn:
Deep Packet Inspection is not illegal.
[Atrix 4G General] wirednix:
I agree.

Chubby guy, can you stop being disrespectful to other XDA members?

If I come into a thread and you are there, its usually with a rude reply to another user's post/comment.

Having your opinion is fine, but leave the personal attacks and the overall superiority complex out of it.

Thnaks.
[Atrix 4G General] :
I use these:

Wireless - http://goo.gl/qOEhO

Wired - http://goo.gl/zpHVL

Ive never received an email. ;)
[Atrix 4G General] G-Man.:
@ OP Posting this kind of **** should be a bannable offense on this site. Free tethering is THEFT. go read your ToS that you signed with. Even if you dont agree with those terms, signing your contract with your carrier said you did. Its people like you and all the others that are causing things like data rates to be jacked up. quit bein a jackass and PAY for services you USE....
[Atrix 4G General] :
Everybody PAYS for the data they use, this is about not paying TWICE.
[Atrix 4G General] jkrohn:
You're not paying for the data, you're paying for the right to use the data on the carriers network in the manner they allow you to use it.
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Are you rooted?

Have you changed your theme?

Do you have sideloading enabled?

If so............should you be banned for changing the way the carrier wants you to use your phone by installing themes and apps they do not give you access to, and by modifying system files? Don't turn around and say that's different!

Nobody cares about your personal opinion of who should be banned. If the mods have a problem with it, they will lock the thread and issue a warning for us not to discuss this again. Until that time, it's fine as far as I am concerned!

If everyone who "broke the law" was banned, we wouldn't have any devs left either!

I actually started to find this thread interesting because it moved towards more technical discussion.
[Atrix 4G General] JayRolla:
I pay over $1500 a year for two phones. I shouldn't have to pay an extra $240 a year for 2gb monthly data. Att are great scam artists. I will be leaving after contract is up. Pricing is outrageous and confusing.
[Atrix 4G General] calvin398:
Chubby, you're an idiot. It's amazing how someone can still hold on to their retarded beliefs despite the overwhelming evidence otherwise.

Thanks bane, I've actually been looking for a method to usb tether and this is perfect. If this can hide the browser header, then theoretically, packet sniffing shouldn't give you away immediately.
[Atrix 4G General] :
No, I'm paying for the data, I will use it how I see fit. :cool:
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Can we please close this thread already! *sigh*

Everything is already covered over here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=998148

Obviously some people just can't play nice over here, and this thread is turning into a giant TrollFest!...
[Atrix 4G General] jkrohn:
Read the contract *you agreed to*
[Atrix 4G General] :
MOD EDIT: Removed due to unsuitable content
[Atrix 4G General] rjohnstone:
You BS detector must be backed up. Take a laxative and chill. :p

MacRumors forums... users on PDA Net 3.0 still getting tagged by AT&T.

Perhaps the Android version works differently, but iPhone users are still getting the texts and emails.

Rumor has it thought that Apple may have dropped some new code in 4.3.x that will help carriers ID unauthorized tethering.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Obvious AT&T employee here...
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
I haven't read xda rules in a while so if I broke any I apologize in advance, I was just trying to share some useful info, and frankly the reason rates go up is monetarily driven, the only data rate change has been from unlimited to limited and that was inevitably due to atts lack of foresight that everyone would eventually be on the net ALOT, not as a method of punishing us, so plz check the rage at the door
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
I actually feel we have covered new ground in this thread, I read all 8 pages of the other thread, mostly speculation of course, I do feel the trolling has become excessive and stupid but as long as some good info comes out of it I believe its worth it, I guess as long as it doesn't just degenerate into name calling with no relevancy to the subject matter its worth keeping open for good updated info
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
I read this too about the ios update having a new detection method so that may have trumped pdanet 3.0s new tethering feature so we may still be safe, did u happen to read the android police article I.posted? It said that there have been no confirmed android users receiving the texts, is this iPhone only? Can anyone confirm this? Btw could u please link the forum where u read about someone using the latest 3.0 version with an iPhone and then getting busted? An android example in general 3.0 or not would be great as well if anyone could provide, thx in advance

And plz in the future if ur going to post a claim such as iPhone users using 3.0 are still being cited plz back it up and cite ur source, lets not clutter up the post with having the sources requested and then having to repost the source, anyone can post whatever they want including opinions touted as facts or worse made up info to backup their beliefs or to save face, this is the nature of misinformation on the forums and I'd like to limit it as much as possible, give us something to lead us to believe that what u are saying is true, and this goes for anyone posting new info, assume I will ask how do u know and avoid looking like the dreaded pondefecator aka butthole speaker
[Atrix 4G General] rjohnstone:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=12513833&postcount=28

He was popped while using the hide feature on PDA Net 3.0.

Granted he had been using MyWi prior, so know one knows if there was a delay in him getting the message from AT&T.
[Atrix 4G General] banes:
Ya your right it could have been delayed I read about one person with low tethering usage on iPhone getting popped the month after even though he stopped using it.

I wanted to repost this link since it had good info and if it is untrue, I would like an android user to come forward and tell us about your experience and under what circumstances you got caught.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...unauthorized-android-tethering-and-may-never/
[Atrix 4G General] Mr. Clown:
Closing this since it is becoming a flame fest.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
So thats all started one day,

When i flashed MIUI RC4 ,All was good everething work,internal sdcard and external,Network everything and i installed Voodoo sound improvments from market and i had root too.

BUT one Day i decided to flash back to 2.1.

So i started to flash JM5. AND after REBOOT i have this Errors E:Cant mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 (no such file or directory)

E:copy_dbdata_media:Cant mount SDCARD: Your storage blabla......

So i tried to flash HArdcore speedmode kernel but when it reboot it says same Error but after reboot the phone normally start but i have force closes,network doesnt work atd... "Damaged internal sdcard" 0.00 KB a i cant Format sdcard NOTHING i tried so many times to flash another Official ROM with another pit files

I dont know guys

anyone help me ?? ill go to samsung service today or i can fix it ??? :(

REally thanks !!! Mike ;)

And i have JIG guys ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faria:
try to flash one of the latest jvb rom with boot-loaders as it contains all files required, dont use any pit files or repartition .

if this fails, first flash a pit file alone, then flash the whole rom without pitfile or repartition.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
OK

Ok,i trying it ! Really thanks for reply !

AND what do you mean ?"with boot-loaders ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richard2311:
if you flash this : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19506141/St... XDA 17-4/GT_I9000_XWJVB_XXJVK_NEEJV3_Sbl.exe

with this : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19506141/flash en drivers/Odin_+_pit.exe

you should be allright.

use the pit 512 file in odin and be sure to tick repartition...:cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamie2002uk:
Was you using any lag fixes?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
yes maybe ..

Only Voodoo from market (sound)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
and pls why thats all is in .exe ??
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faria:
Not fixed yet?

if not let me know i got another idea:)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faria:
you mean the rom you downloaded? if so just extract the contents of the .exe wit winrar.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
So i Flashed first ROM I9000XWJVB ##	512.PIT	2.3.3	2011 April 8	CSC = I9000XEEJV3,After that i have same error or little bit longer ..,so i flashed the whole pit file 512 with re-partition after that i flashed again XWJVB without pit file and repartion.

Now i have this ERROR Your storage not prepared yet. please use UI ......

Media files copy failed.

--Deleting files...

E:failed to mount /data (File exists)

E:delete_data_files:CAnt mount /data

your storage not ........

Updating filesystem...

verifying the filesystem. please wait.

already updated filessystem. finished

Succesfully updated filesystem.

--Wiping cahe...

Formatting cache..

Cache wipe failed.

Appling Multi-CSC..

Installing Multi-CSC

Cant access to /system/csc/SER/system/.

Succesfully applied multi-CSC.

AND Thats all :(((

Iam tired with this what i can do??

ANd phone automaticly restart again again gain ..
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faria:
Lol.it took me 3 days to fix mine with the same Errors, just ignore this error;

Cant access to /system/csc/SER/system/.

Succesfully applied multi-CSC.

as for the other errors im uploading the tools and files for you to fix your device.

you will have to wait at least an hour.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
Can you say me your idea? pls :( Thnaks ! ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
Ouu

Really Thanks !! Youre king !
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
;)

You have the same errors like me ? i mean this errors,Damaged internal sdcard atd.. ? :O
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faria:
I had,fixed now:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
lol

now iam really excited,

How :D

So ill go out to BMX park ill be there in 1.5 hour ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faria:
Like i said before im uploading the stuff for you :)

It fixed mine but i cant guaranty it will work for others but im confident:)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
So

Iam here now ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SH3HAB3:
I'm having the same problem and it's been a month now. I've tried so many ways but it didn't work !!

plz help​
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
Faria

Are you there? :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faria:
Pm sent.:)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pellos:
have the same problem here too!!! can i have the tools also pls???

i am so desperate!!

update: tried the rom provided previously and nothing happened!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SH3HAB3:
can I have them ? plz
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faria:
The files fixed my sgs but i cant guaranty it will fix others without testing.

the procedure is very risky, 2 users are are trying to fix their devices with the files,if it works i will release them to the public.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pellos:
will also give it a test too. have nothing to loose. Samsung service centre in Cyprus is crap.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SH3HAB3:
lookin forward to
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr Woolf:
A flash of jm9 with pit 512 sorted my phone when I had same error. Remove sim and ext sd card prior to flashing.

Jm9 has sorted every problem i've ever had - and i think I've had them all.

Keep calm mate, I'm sure you'll get it sorted.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pellos:
still nothing. and i am afraid to send it to Samsung service in Cyprus! with mpc i get into the S logo but black screen after and dain the battery really fast
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrFredPhD:
The fix is simple, just reflash a full firmware (3 files) with pit file and repartition, I always use xxjpc.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgstar:
:(

it doesnt work trust me ;) :D i tried it ;) 1000 times
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azzledazzle:
so can you mount USB storage ? Have you tried a format under windows ??

You are on international i9000 right ? not the i9000-M ?? because this is known for internal sd corruption

what is the oldest firmware you have flashed ? i find JM1 works well for me, with 512 PIT
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pellos:
me2 bgstar! just a few moments ago ! tried : jvb, jvh, jm9.jpc, jvk, jm8, jm7, jpu and jl2!!! none of the above fixes the problem! only rom that takes me upto the S logo is jpc but the rest keep rebooting. also with jpc i have huge battery drain while is on black screen after the S logo goes away!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamie2002uk:
Ok to me it sounds like you have some sort of lag fix enabled on your system partition i had this problem im sure i just reflashed mine using odin

Sent from my Galaxy S I9000 using Tweaky Rom
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _murray_:
I exactly have this problem. Here is the topic that i opened for this problem.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13729852#post13729852

If any fixes, please share.

Regards.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamie2002uk:
Can u guys get into the recovery menu?

Sent from my Galaxy S I9000 using Tweaky Rom
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biscuit26:
got the same problem too flashed back to stock 2.1 now all apps force close

any idea ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _murray_:
Yes I can. but factory reset does not work there.

I also tried 2.1 , 2.2, 2.2.1, 2.3.3

All have force close. But in 2.3.3 (jvh, ramad post) once I close the FCs I can use the phone for daily use. but i can not write anything to sd.

BTW i also had voodo sound control before the flash which caused problems. I read sbd also had. How many of us had sound control before flash?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biscuit26:
i had one click lagfix but i disabled it before flashing, maybe it wasn't properly disabled..
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marmot:
Hi bgstar!

:(

Did you manage to resolve the below?

I have the same problem. Flashed multiple stock roms, the result is as yours...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jason123420:
Ooops wrong post
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] petunya:
Hello, Faria!

Could you help to me plz?

I have the same error on I9000 - faulty internal SD card. Flashing many firmwares XXJVR, XXJVS, JM9, etc has no effect.

As I understood you have some tools to revive SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bhu1:
I think your lagfix was enabled and you did not ticked bootloader update!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] petunya:
Should I reflash 3 file firmware (for example XXJVR from samfirmware.com) using ODIN with repartition and check "phone bootloader update"?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bhu1:
Ya trying wont harm!