yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Tablet General] cbay:
That is a little too harsh !!

If I remember right, gojimi clarified the "locklng" ness of 1.2 early on. We get it !

I am running TNT Lite 4.4 and just don't see the need of having to go to 1.2 based ROMS/kernels yet to justify the hassle of dealing with bootloops, nvflash yet. (unless roebeet needs more beta testers ) :)

rothnic's post is valuable, because it seems to indicate future direction, but until I hear of a HC ROM using 1.2, I think I will pass.
[G Tablet General] K J Rad:
No... It isn't too harsh considering his past comments about trying to support an open community. Jerdog's comments about the NI camp were completely uncalled for especially considering the recent advancements that have come from there including the little fact that spawned this thread.

And as far as bootloops and nvflash are concerned... maybe you should check the number of posts concerning them here versus slatedroid. You might find the numbers interesting. Especially the number of them that result in APX only booting here. It's time to stop blaming Roebeet's work for that crap. His installs and recovery work when the process is followed just like anyone else's.
[G Tablet General] Oozura:
This thread its getting a little side tracked. I liked the initial dialogue. And loved pershoots info and instructions.

In fact I am going to try and use his method to get cm7 installed on top of the 1.2 boot loader tonight. Good luck to me..
[G Tablet General] TJEvans:
you're both right in a way, and arguing isn't really solving anything, since there is a truth to what both of you say.

When 1.2 first arrived, it was a problem for some. Stock users were updating OTA to the 1.2 bootloader, then trying to flash a 1.1 rom. T scaused problems. When it was figured out what was happening, the point was made that it appeared that all future updates from the allmighty VS would be using this new 1.2 BL format. All Roebeet did at that time (and still to date) is make 1.2 versions of already existing roms...this would help those that were on the 1.2 bootloader.

I'll repeat myself, a lot of us are NOT developers, and in fact, have no Linux experience at all. Had I purchased a Woot Gtab, then "upgraded" to 1.2 not knowing that I even WAS, then was directed here to flash a custom Rom, I'd end up being really dissapointed in the results, when I softbricked my device. The bottom line is, most reviews of the Gtab, and searches point users to XDA to "fix" their new fancy purchase. Without having hte proper information easily and readily available, there is a chance that those of us that are excited to change the stock firmware would end up ruining our days.

I'm actually with Cbay on one point, I'm running Vegan 5.1.1, and really have no reason to switch ot a 1.2 Rom...Beautiful Corners is basically a 1.2 port of the 1.1 Rom...not much is different enough to make me feel the need to switch.

on the other hand, I see those that are currently working on 1.1 based roms to feel a little left out. They are continuing to work on a project that began when 1.1 was the norm, and really the only version. Now that 1.2 is out, one might suspect that any new Gtablets that come out of US merchants may have it pre-installed, making their rom less of an option for users to upgrade to.

I just don't see the need to argue here. 1.1 Roms are tested and true, they work, they are stable, and frankly, I love the one I'm using. Until there is one better that is 1.2, I have no need to upgrade.

BUT, any new roms that come out would be better served if they were 1.2 based, since it seems that the factory updates from now on are going to be...
[G Tablet General] notsob2002:
Well if your happy with using phone roms then stay with 1.1. If you want to move forward and be able to use roms that are designed for a tablet as I believe will be the eventual end result as thing's progress as they are and at a fast pace then you will need 1.2.

I guess we will all see if I'm close to being right very soon:rolleyes: as alot of work is being done to make the tablets better by alot of very dedicated individuals experimenting to get the pieces of the puzzle together.
[G Tablet General] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
There is no evidence yet that GB and/or HC will require the new bootloader.

It may turn out to be easier to just 'go with the flow', but at this point there is no evidence it will be required.

Quite the contrary, GB works quite well with the 1.1 loader. I suspect it would be trivial to package any of the GB roms with the 1.2 loader as well.
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
Agreed! let's stay on topic, mmkay? I will close this thread if we can't stay on topic.
[G Tablet General] K J Rad:
My posts were on topic and corrected a number of misconceptions that have been put forward by someone in a position of authority through the use of information that was untrue. And now my posts have been deleted. I find that interesting.
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
Your posts were argumentative - though I decided to undelete one which was less than the other one as it contained some info that was inline with the continued, on-topic discussion on the OP.

Let's stay on topic and not assault others and their opinions - and we'll all be happier. One more off-topic post or abusive comment and this thread will be locked.

There is great information in this thread - let's not muddy it up with irrelevant information.
[G Tablet General] blazingwolf:
Interesting comment.

Nvidia is moving on to ventana as well as most oems. Those that still have the harmony boards are making the move in software terms. So most likely all continued development will be with a 1.2 bootloader which will include GB and HC. So, unless someone hacks up the 1.1 to work with these changes you won't be able to run them.
[G Tablet General] just lou:
I'm running Roebeet's new "Brilliant Corners" v1.2 with pershoot's kernel, and it's virtually flawless. I've flashed just about every ROM out there, and this one is the fastest and most stable. Not a single issue, and I'm overclocked to 1.4 GHz.
[G Tablet General] Mikeg1969:
+1 for Roebeets Brilliant Corners. I am using VT Launcher, OC to 1.4 with it and I have a rock solid combo there.
[G Tablet General] Oozura:
so i tried to nvflash to a 1.2 image then i pushed roebeets newer CWM v3.0.2.8. Then wiped everything and tried to install CM7 nightly 65 and end up with errors in the getprop("ro.build.device/product/board") == "harmony". The same happened when trying to install stable 7.0.3.
[G Tablet General] pershoot:
Remove the assert check line in the update-script, turn sig check off in cwm and flash.

When I get back from IO ill get myself on the new bootloader and cwm 3028 and see if I can get provisions in for the amended prop device.
[G Tablet General] Oozura:
that would be awesome if you can get those provisions in because i have no idea how to modify the update script lol. I could probably learn it but... well you know. laziness.
[G Tablet General] pershoot:
Edit the file and remove the line. Can be done in notepad.
[G Tablet General] Oozura:
that sounds so easy... guess i have to try it now. hopefully this works.

gotta do RL work now, but will try again tonight and report back.

enjoy IO
[G Tablet General] notsob2002:
The 1.2 branch is being used to get HC to run on the Gtab and NI adam. Check out Robeets Alfa release he uploaded this afternoon. Alot of good people are trying to push this and get it to work which will be a good thing for tablet users.
[G Tablet General] asankasl:
Adam Honeycomb devs have already got hardware acceleration partly. They are putting a lot of effort on this. They did this in just a couple of days.

This is another reason why we ( gtab, NI Adam, Zpad etc users) should unite in software development.

From what I understood from Roebeets comments at slatedroid, Adams Honeycomb should work as is on gtab 1.2 ROM. (It may need a few tweaks which the mods would easily do. )
[G Tablet General] notsob2002:
What is really needed is a kernel developer to help right now.
[G Tablet General] magqccom:
Wow, 8 voltage levels instead of 7. Why don't we stick with 7? Does it give any advantages to the user? Seems to me that, if we ever get any future kernels, it can be pathched pretty easy back to 7 and not cause every g tablet in circulation to have to change bootloader just to match newer g tablets (if they ever do come out with a newer bootloader out the gate).

Meanwhile, 4349 runs fine with the old bootloader and clemsyn #9 kernel (haven't tried anything newer as everything since is about overclocking).

It just seems, in my opinion, the important stuff, like 1080p hardware acceleration, having a volume rocker that does not adjust a non-existing rigner, having our tablet aware that it has no 3g radio etc. has been moved to the back burner. Its probably just me, but I don't want a rom that does not fit my tablet, no matter what bootloader it used to boot, so, from the passenger seat, may I remark that that 1.2. bootloader really does not seem useful at all in the grand scheme of things.
[G Tablet General] asankasl:
Agreed !

Whatever way, HC with hardware acceleration on Adam seems almost a certainty.

So, g tab is obviously the next.
[G Tablet General] notsob2002:
Very interesting observation and comment.
[G Tablet General] rothnic:
NI does not develop any of the kernel/bootloader, nor does viewsonic. All of that type of work is done internal by Malata. To get the kernel source for us, they have always had to request it from Malata.

So this is rather simple. The internal Malata development has snapshots taken of it to compile out a build by one of the companies, either VS or NI. The 1.1 is just an old snapshot. The adam came out after all the 1.1 gtablet updates, so had a more recent snapshot they were building off of.

The newer internal Malata work had some kernel changes and supporting bootloader changes. All future builds coming out of Malata indirectly will require a compatible bootloader/kernel.

I think people are thinking too hard on this. I highly doubt VS has made any deal with NI. They just have a newer snapshot of the internal malata development branch.

If Malata develops a 2.6.3* kernel it will most definitely not be compatible with the 1.1 bootloader, because that was built on a very old branch.
[G Tablet General] Metal_in_Silk:
Doesn't seem right to allow this info to drop off into obscurity.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 8ball2253:
Hi all, long time lurker, first time poster!

I've just installed the InsertCoin v20 on my S-OFF, CM7 Hboot HTC desire, and it has been stuck on the htc screen for ages now.

I've reflashed it many times, including the radio (32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2), the recovery (clockwork v3), and the rom. nothing seems to be working.

I have a feeling it might have been the bootscreen I flashed - I flashed the original HTC boot screen from alpharev website.

Does anybody have any ideas! I did a full wipe before flashing this rom (I came from Cyanogen 7)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] status_six:
Does the rom fit the cm7 partition table? If it's too big then the phone won't boot, though Iffr think recovery should still work in that scenario.

Also check the md5sum of the boot image file - search on Google for a free tool for doing this.

Are you able to boot to bootloader?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Csharpe:
Insertcoin should work on CM7 hboot, so they say, so it's some other problem he's experiencing I guess. Maybe he forgot to make an ext partition on the SD card...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 8ball2253:
CSharpe you hit the nail on the head...I completely forgot to make the ext3 partition on my SD card. It was driving me mad last night, I only wish you had told me sooner, I was up until 6am sorting it out!

Thank you!
[Atrix 4G General] roharia:
Does anybody know if/when Android 2.4 will be released for the Atrix? I'm eager for this as it should bring support for dual core phones (eg the atrix)
[Atrix 4G General] OSNPA:
Fall at the earliest is my guess
[Atrix 4G General] roharia:
Sooner the better amirite?
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
Nobody knows. Nobody at Motorola has really said anything about it. I believe there was a rumor of possibly late summer or sometime in the fall... but who really knows.

And... i don't know if i'd say "will bring support for" in regards to dual-core phones. "will bring better support for", maybe. Supposedly the version of Froyo currently used on the Atrix has been modified to support dual core.
[Atrix 4G General] OSNPA:
I am guessing we will sooner get it by bypassing the bootloader than motorola and at&t pushing updates on a phone they have wrong holed since the beginning.
[Atrix 4G General] brian2220:
july 4 :p
[Atrix 4G General] cerps:
Your comment made me picture the post where someone announces they figured out how to bypass the bootloader, " We will not go quietly into the night!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day! "
[Atrix 4G General] blindguyinanorgy:
wait so i spent money on dual core that is not even supported?
[Atrix 4G General] lfventura:
It is supported, but Gingerbread is better for multi core.

Motorola as recompiled the kernel with SMP enabled, so we are using the dual core in froyo for all the apps that we install that supports dual core.
[Atrix 4G General] eval-:
This is all sort of misleading. Yes, we have an SMP, preemptible kernel so AFAIK system tasks and others will run while our system is going, things should be generally smoother. Most apps will execute on one core, as I think the Dalvik VM is not multi-core aware.. although single-threaded apps will not get an automatic performance boost from 2.3/2.4, when a multi-core aware Dalvik comes to us. However, the garbage collector thread will run on the other core, and apps which are programmed to take advantage of multiple cores will certainly run faster. So, even if we had a multi-core capable Dalvik today, it wouldn't be a huge performance boost until the rest of the ecosystem catches up. But yes, hopefully Motorola is getting us there soon! The MT870, a cousin of our MB860, is shipping in China with Gingerbread on it.
[Atrix 4G General] guidoido004:
i spoke with some guys from motorola, they will release the 2.3 in the half year, because a lot of moto phones just got froyo now, so they are giving some time before lauch ginger, but it has been confirmed from moto workers, WE WILL HAVE GINGERBREAD !^^
[Atrix 4G General] noxlord:
We'll have to wait and see I guess...

I am not too hopeful about it tho.
[Atrix 4G General] ikenley:
Who were your Moto contacts, are they from the teams working on it?

if so i'd love to speak to them.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bombhash:
im currently running toxic 7
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kawika:
Try pushing the mms.apk alone from the ROM .zip, that should fix it. If it doesnt werk try pushing one from a ROM you know werked for you before. Good luck!:)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bombhash:
Dang no one of those suggestions work guess im flashing a new rom :(
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] Ganjax:
without all languages?
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
include:

- English :D

- Deutsh

- Espanol

- Francais

- Italiano

suport asian font ^^!
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] ncw2k69:
fix?

any fixes for dropping wifi and freezing keyboard without gscript?
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
- I test wifi and work good so far, no eror or dropping, just in first boot maybe it eror, reboot 2,3 time and everything will work good.

- Keyboard problem need fix by kernel, so, until now, this problem is not yet fix! I recomment use gscript to fix it :D
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] b8e5n:
Nice work, it runs pretty well!

Exept for one thing, when i try to download some apps from the market, it says

"application google service Framework (process com.google.process.gapps) has stopped unexpectedly". It does this everytime it tries do download from the market...

Did you encountered that problem? Should a make a system restore from android? I also tried to format the cache memory...Fix the permissions, but nothing changed...

Except that issue, sometimes it starts with the menu in wide mode.

Many thanks to you!!
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
Hi b8e5n, nice to see it work good for you, with the market, I don't have any eror until now. have you use any Task Manager and use kill all app to free more memory? I recomment don't use it, and maybe you should reinstall again with step by step I write in first post :D
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] b8e5n:
Thanks for your help! I spent my whole day on it...

I did not use any kill app, because there was no app killer installed.

I tried to reinstall the whole system (formating the three partitions of curse), but failed again with that error, so i tried another mod.
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
please try this boot folder http://www.multiupload.com/JC7W7479NE, download it and extract npkboot folder to your sdcard. remember format all partition sdcard and make them primary . copy 4 file in old folder I give in first post include: Haret.exe, modules-2.6.27.46.tar.gz, zImage, and ts-calibration to new folder. then reinstall. Hope it work for you ^^!
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] kurtxcobain:
Works flawlessly! :)

only thing to improve is battery drain

great job! thanks!
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] uros2002:
I tried your Android but happens to me the following:

Sdcard reformat the FAT23 partition and three Ext2

Copying

npkboot

Froyo_CWM_V1_08-05-11.zip

card to FAT32

Via file explorer and choose open folder sdcard npkboot

run Haret

starts to load and after a few seconds resets the phone.

I tried another version npkboot you're hung up in some of the recent posts but

happens the same thing.

Do you have any suggestions on what to do or give up.
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
download this file http://tingstenen.dk/data/ygge2.6turbo.zip extract and replace 2 file zimage and modules in npkboot folder, format sdcard, and try again! maybe it will work !
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] uros2002:
Thanks I managed to install

Now I have another problem

When I launch Android everything works solidly

but no network

I go into settings and try to auto adjust, find the mobile operators but will not connect

also when I try manually

What should I do?

I tried several times to get into airplayn mode but nothing
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
try open each app once! then restart 2,3 time and every things will ok. If not, reinstall android again! it will good! :D
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] wallaceff:
Best ROM for me so far, and I've tried them all to date! (As of May 18!)

Just like to say I'm using this ROM, with the gscript keyboard modules and SetCPU, and so far, feels faster and more stable than the others and I'm going to stick with this one for a while.

I especially like being able to use CWM to make a backup to the SD card and then able to restore it at a later date very quickly if things go wrong (just some advice, if you do rename the CWM backup directory, do *not* put spaces in the directory name or it will give you an error).

I have a few problems though with installing apps

So far, WhatsAPP will not install. Neither will the latest ADWLauncher 1.3.3 (I'm currently using the older version). Not quite sure why this is happening. Would appreciate any advice here
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
glad to see it work good for you! I will try install ADWLauncher 1.3.3 and report if it work ! :D
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] wallaceff:
Please also try WhatsApp
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] MasterOran:
Hi,

could u explain to me, whats the different between ur ROM and the "original" one from faryaab?
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
Confirm ADW Launcher EX 1.3.3 and WhatsApp install ok ! please try reinstall again, if you have eror, reinstall android ! :D
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
I change some things for better run with clockworkmod, also include some needed app ! This build more stable than origin, you can try and feel ! :D
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] dufflover:
Same issues with rebooting after 7 seconds!

Hey I'm trying to get your build going on my X1. First go at Android with the CWM method. I'm getting the same issue even with the ygge2.6turbo files.

Overview of my steps:

1. created the FAT32, EXT2 x 3 partitions

2. Extracted npkboot v1.8 monster kernal to SD card, so root of SD card has one folder called npkboot

3. Copied Froyo(blah blah).zip to root of SD card

4. In file exporer, went to npkboot folder, ran haret.exe

>> fatal restart

5. quick format sd card, repeat copy of files

6. change frequency to 560MHz, just incase

7. re-run ...

>> fatal restart

8. reformat, re-setup

9. downloaded the ygge2.6turbo file, extracted to files into npkboot folder and replaced existing ones

10. run haret.exe

>> fatal restart

What am I doing wrong? Does the exact set up or version of WinMo/X1 firmware matter?
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
Have you overclock cpu in windows mobile? disable it before boot to android.

when you run Haret, it restart immediately or it run some text then restart?
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] dufflover:
I've never overclocked the CPU (never knew you could) until now with these start up files, so I'll say No - how to check just incase?

When I run haret it says booting Linux, then comes up with a screen full of Linux commands scrolling through quickly then pauses when it displays the fatal error stuff, then reboots after the 7 second delay thing it says.
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] gsmith6915:
Same problem here. Just keeps rebooting. When I try to run Haret it says its booting Linux but nothing. it just hangs for a min then restarts
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
have Both of you create 4 partition as primary? So, when you run Haret, it run some text line? have you see text " press volume down quickly to enter Clockworkmod" ? If you see that text, quickly press volume down button, it will boot to clockworkmod, then continue install step by step in first post !
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] wallaceff:
Oh noo..... I wonder why its not working for me? Back to reinstall time I guess. Very weird though.

1 more question, do you have trouble downloading from the Androind App Store? It seems to run very very slowly for me.

Thanks!
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
Try reinstall android again! I download android market and other market normal, maybe your wifi slow !
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] ciscus:
Market Problem. The application Market (process com.android.vending) has stopped unexpectedly.
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
open each app once, then restart 2,3 time. it will ok, if not, please reinstall! :D
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] dufflover:
OK this is odd but I think I've had this before.

I was just mucking around every so often with the phone at work. Most of the time, it would do the "Rebooting in 7 seconds" fatal error thing. But on the rare occasion it got past that and managed to go all the way to loading the CWM recovery utility. I performed the format of the 3 EXT2 partitions and installed from Zip card. OK good progress.

Mucking around some more, it still does the constant "Rebooting in 7 seconds" (even though I've turned it down to 530MHz for good measure) but again on the odd occasion it gets to loading Android now. Still no luck in the end though. During the loading sequence it gets to a bit where there's a gap in the Linux terminal text then it says " A N D R O I D" with more loading stuff. Shortly after this, the phone just restarts - this time no mention of the "Rebooting in 7 seconds" thing.

Perhaps this later issue is more identifiable and fixable?
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] saobang3886:
Have you format 4 partition and make all them as primary?

If you do right step by step in first boot and it still can't boot to android, please chang the modules and zimage like I write in first post!
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] dufflover:
hehe yep all those very basic things done. I'll try a different ROM/build.