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[HTC Inspire 4G] Chad_Petree:
My phone always discharges at 2-3 pm , and i have an extra charger from my motorola milestone, i was thinking of leaving the htc charger here at home and carry the motorola charger with me, but the inspire manual clearly says i should charge it ONLY using the htc charger, what do you guys think? its just nonsense talk? i must say that my milestone screen sometimes acted CRAZY, like it was possesed and random things clicked by themselves , i was told it was because i was using a blackberry charger that had different voltage :(:confused:
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
If you have the ability to do so, just use USB charging from the computer. No drivers needed and no worrying about potential power issues unless it happens to be a bad port.
[HTC Inspire 4G] tribalartgod:
You can use the other charger. Lithium-Ion batteries have fail-safe circuitry in them. If the charger is producing current outside of the pre-programed range for that battery, it simply will not charge.
[HTC Inspire 4G] mudknot2005:
Your phone is discharging at 2 am? Sounds like a wet dream to me...

Tribal is right though.

Sent from my shotgun via the zombie apocalypse
[HTC Inspire 4G] MtGoat:
I've used universal usb car chargers (many I received for free or bought very cheap) with anything that uses usb port to charge the battery. From IPod to most of the Cingular, Sprint and AT&T phones and never had a problem. I always figured that the usb port voltage had to be regulated from the device end considering that all the different devices that plugs into them.
[HTC Inspire 4G] nhshah7:
i charge overnight with teh charger from my htc tilt2, but i always carry the inspire charger with me on the road because it charges FASTER than the other chargers i've used it with (PC included). but no, chances are that you wont damage your phone or anything by using another device's charger.
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
Based on what's happening with the other "new" HTC phones, it's looking more and more like there will not be a way to do a perm root (S=Off) on the EVO 3D, unless by way of the XTC Clip.

So if there's no perm root on any of the other new HTC phones by the time the EVO 3D is release, will you still purchase it? If so, do you not care about root or do you just feel it will eventually happen?

Me... as much as I hate the way Samsung has treated it's customers with the after sales support, I'm starting to seriously consider the SGS II. 3D isn't important to me, but having the support of developers are.
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
I think it will happen eventually. I can always sell it if it doesn't happen.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrjaydee82:
I feel it will happen. Even if they never figure a way to unlock the bootloader I'm positive that they will at least get root access and as long as I get my free wireless tethering to work ill be good. Don't get me wrong I'd be dissapointed if they were never be able to crack it, i'll be good with just root.
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
I agree. They will figure out a way.
[HTC EVO 3D] Samzebian:
this is the problem with the miracles of developers, they instill so much confidence in us that we think they can do anything. True, where there's a will, there's a way, but an encrypted bootloader is pretty hard to get past, they never did it on any of the Motorola phones, and if the Evo 3D has one, I don't see it being cracked anytime soon. Sure, they were able to hack a lot of older phones, but they were just locked bootloaders, not encrypted.

Personally, I'm getting kind of sick of running custom ROMs now, simply because I now have 2 jobs and don't have the time to configure my phone to my liking every time I flash something different. Though I'd still be pissed with the encrypted bootloader, the option to run a custom rom should still be available if needed
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeDCMDVA:
But, with Samsung phones, they are using that horrible filesystem. I mean wow, on the Galaxy S 4G, there is STILL not a Clockworkmod Recovery, which means STILL no ROM's because of the file system issues.

Honestly, if the EVO 3D can't be rooted, and the Galaxy S2 has another bunk filesystem which really can't be modded, I will not be purchasing either.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I'm rooted on an Epic 4G...which uses RFS.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
There is no point of even talking about it because it will come how all previous HTC phones have come to sprint. Locked and rooted before its released. These BS scare tactics are more than laughable.
[HTC EVO 3D] epsix:
HTC Sensation, 3D will have bootloader sign, motorola bootloader sign and encrypted is two different things.

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[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
That's true, but so far, it seems HTC's new way of signing or whatever they did hasn't been or can't be broken yet with what info is out there. How long has the Incredible S been out now... since late Feb? Still no one has been able to get a software S=off, to give it a permanent root. This has me worried.

As much as I hate Samsung, I think I might need to get the SGS II because I don't want to get a phone that can't get perm root.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Ill get it. If it can't be fully rooted I will reevaluate and decide whether it not to sell it. Sense 3

0 with those specs and partial root may suffice.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] 4redstars:
The phones we have been discussing all have one thing in common, Verizon. I don't think Sprint will force HTC to do this and I doubt HTC is really wanting to lock the devs out.
[HTC EVO 3D] Nsandhu23:
Yea I will get it regardless. My primary reason for rooting my hero was better performance and softest. But when I buy Sprint''s next flag ship phone, it won't get out dated as fast.

From my Gingerbread Hero.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Can someone put this quote on repeat?
[HTC EVO 3D] Igotsanevo4g:
No way. I'll keep the OG evo til a GSII shows up on sprint if we cant get full root. At least samsung never locks their stuff up.

Root, or die!
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
Maybe in the US, but it's happened in Europe too. Plus, I read somewhere that Verizon never asked HTC to lock down the bootloader.

I really think it's HTC's doing and I have a feeling it has something to do with that CPO, Kouji Kodera, they picked up from Sony Ericsson.

http://wmpoweruser.com/scary-htc-poaches-sony-ericsson-executives-to-streamline-product-development/

He's probably the guy who got SE to lock down their phones and now is doing it with HTC. Now that SE doesn't have him, they're starting to go the other direction.
[HTC EVO 3D] mayfield103:
Im definitely getting one. The geniuses on xda will figure it out.

EOD is evotastic!
[HTC EVO 3D] netstat_EVO:
This makes a lot of sense. But I really hope you are wrong. For HTC to turn on it's current user base, many of which are involved in android dev, modding, etc at some level. And go in SE's direction would be enough for me to turn my back on HTC all together.

To my way of thinking, Android devices should not only be an open source OS, but should also provide an open development platform. Locking us out of devices that we pay good money for, and until now would have had a reasonable expectation to be able to do what we want with is just wrong.
[HTC EVO 3D] MarkGbe:
i can live without root i think for this phone. The new sense on top of 2.3 is so smooth. I think it will happen though.
[HTC EVO 3D] netstat_EVO:
I can

live

without root... But I really think my enjoyment of the phone would be drastically lower. A few of my every day apps require root permissions, my wifi teathering requires it...

Don't get me wrong, On hardware specs and stock software alone I am excited. But at the same time I have a big problem supporting a company that would slap us in the face like we are Motorola customers.

I guess we'll have to wait and see. But I am not going to jump on it right at the initial release date like I did with my current Evo.
[HTC EVO 3D] AbsolutZeroGI:
The incredible s hasn't been rooted yet, but the thunderbolt (released at a comparable time) HAS been rooted.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...bolt-instructions-by-team-andirc-v1-20110318/

There's still some stuff they don't have yet, but a root's a root and after the root it's only a matter of time before everything else follows.

Also, remember the G2 couldn't be rooted for the longest time, but alas before T-Mobile dicked me, I had my G2 rooted.

I don't know what's gonna happen with the Evo 3d, but i'm gonna stick with the Evo for a bit until this whole mess is cleared out.

Remember, don't panic...and always bring a towel.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zorachus:
Yeah I think smart to hold onto EVO 4G, wait for the official Gingerbread update with newer Sense update. Then after the EVO 3D has been out a little while and a root finally made, the ROM's will be out shortly after.

I just think our current EVO's with the Gingerbread update and ROM's built off that update will be amazing, that will hold me over till the EVO 3D is rooted and ROM'd
[HTC EVO 3D] mayfield103:
Not me gotta have till then flash,flash,flash! I'm gonna give my evo to my mom. She says she wants me to keep it rooted for her cuz she thinks its kool that it does stuff my dads won't. She's 64 her name on xda could be Android Granny lol

EOD is evotastic!
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Even if we can't get full root partial root is highly likely which will allow you to run apps that require root access.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] AbsolutZeroGI:
And with that, you can use Titanium backup to clear out the bloatware. With all the home launchers out there (and all the themes you get for each one), you can theme it to your choosing. Not to mention metamorph will work then and a lot of stuff you can flash as an apk (like a themed htc-ime keyboard).

Themed, minus bloatware...hell all you're missing from there is optimizations, a custom kernel and a themed notifications bar and you got yourself a custom rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] danyzfr6:
If no perm root, I'll go with the Nexus S or stay with the Evo 4G.
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
Can someone tell me why people think the sgs2 is better please id love to hear this
[HTC EVO 3D] BigRick10:
No locked bootloader and that Processor is beast! Screen is better too.
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
I love Samsung's hardware specs but I hate them for their past after sales support. But dang it!! It looks like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and get an SGS II. No Perm-root on the new HTC products means I'm not getting one....
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Locked bootloader = unconfirmed

Processor - this new snapdragon is quite the processor as well and the adreno 220 is supposed to have gpu performance on par with game consoles.

Screen - Samsung = more subpixels but lower resolution.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
Yup lol I'm a qualcomm fan but I gotta see the phone in action
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
All HTC phones have locked bootloaders.
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
Pretty much all phones have locked boot loaders... what we don't want is signed and encrypted boot loader.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Damit x, you knew what I meant. :p

Seriously though, for clarity I was referring to an encrypted bootloader. I only used the word "locked" because that was the term the poster I quoted used...
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
U

I doubt it will be encrypted was the sensation do u know
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
I believeit was.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I really hope the bootloader is not encrypted, want to get rid of my Evo, it's falling apart D:

Unless my repairs are successful that is.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
The leak from the evo 3d does not have an encrypted bootloader. This is looking promising.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Perfect.....so much for the haters who are hoping it did.
[HTC EVO 3D] demo27vol1:
Best news I heard all week :D.
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
Yea no encryption from what I.see hear
[HTC EVO 3D] stimpyshaun:
I thought we knew it wouldn't be encripted but that the problem was that everything is signed
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
A lot easier to deal with then 1024 bit encryption unless u got a server farm and about 100+ years
[HTC EVO 3D] kdepro:
If HTC encrypts each bootloader with a different key, wouldn't it be substantially easier to break an RSA-like encryption? Does anyone know what HTC would or does use to encrypt their bootloaders?
[HTC EVO 3D] evologic:
I found releasekey x509.pem devs help LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] nrap:
if the bootloader is signed/encrypted i will most likely not be getting one. HTC will lose this customer to the SGS2
[HTC EVO 3D] evologic:
If its signed it can be cracked source black hat team but encrypted no go I'm with u on that bro
[HTC EVO 3D] Bigjim1488:
If I can't use my wifi hotspot for free then that's a deal breaker for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Full root isn't required to run apps that require root. Partial root will work just fine.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] ZachPA:
Custom kernel is the biggest one for me. SBC makes me swoon. Knowing full well that the EVO 3D is going to be a battery swine, i want every last millivolt and milliamp in that battery as can fit.
[HTC EVO 3D] evologic:
those interested spoke to 911sniper

911 2011/05/20 at 13:22 | Permalink the ruu will be released soon by htc.

we shell see
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
Someone had posted that the EVO 3d will not suffer that first initial drop like our current EVO's as HTC has fixed that issue. We shall see though.
[HTC EVO 3D] xoreactionzox:
People saying that if it is locked / encrypted they wont get it wants the point

Can a encrypted boot loader not been hacked i mean come on cheer the hackers on prove a point to companys that even if they hirer the smartest people ever there not gonna lock anything down

I mean cant it be hack one day or is a encrypted boot loader something that wont be hacked for years?

If theres a way theres gotta be a how dual core 3d who doesnt want it for just that i mean dual core isnt gonna be slow battery life will be ok i will miss flashin roms and kernals but why not get it its the best phone ive seen so far rooted or unrooted this isnt a thread for apple is it ? I mean people buy android because its the best os not just to root yes thats a advantage to everone lol i thought only people who like ios buys stuff just for a root/ jailbreak
[HTC EVO 3D] stimpyshaun:
for me its as simple as I wouldn't buy a computer I couldn't put Linux on or any other os or distro... it's sad to see HTC go this rout.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I think HTC is a bit smarter than that. HTC has certainly gobbled up code from the developers here--attributed or not. I may be giving them far too much credit here, but, I'm pretty sure they know there is an unlimited amount of free development all the way down to the kernel (and deeper) level oozing out of this (and others, for certain) community. I imagine they have to put on a "hey we're trying our hardest (crossing fingers)" face to do it, but, seriously....where are they losing their money? How many bricks have you heard another user curse up and down about? Very few. I don't recall any on the Evo4G forum, and I pretty much lived there for the past year....

So it isn't for returned bricks costing them money....because, honestly, even the Evo4G community which is HUGE here, is but a drop in the bucket of the entire market. Barely a threshold blip on their financial radar. We would all have to brick our devices and try to sneak-return them on the same day for anyone to even notice........maybe......and this also rules out any of the similar "cuz of money" scenarios.

The development work coming out of here is simply phenomenal. Remember the 30FPS cap? What was HTC's official stance on that initially? And who eventually issued an OTA update that fixed a previously impossible to fix problem? Where do you think they got that? Do you think they would have just shipped a phone like that if they could just fix it themselves? They were convinced (probably because of some lazy/boneheaded inhouse developer) they the HDMI really did limit the FPS....

...and that is but one example....

HTC's flagship phones (especially on Sprint for some strange reason) always amass a gigantic cult following and thus developer following....HTC is free to merge the code into their official tree. We are a statistically insignificant dent in their armor--even in a worst-case-scenario of everyone bricking their phones and returning them....and nothing but goodness comes out of here for them.

I have a hard to believing they would encrypt/super-lock their next flagship device to prevent their biggest supporters (and hardest, cheapest most innovative coders) from giving them free help.

...outside of us how many people even know WTF root is or are even that bothered by the Nascar app enough to find out?
[HTC EVO 3D] evologic:
Xtc payg ???
[HTC EVO 3D] xian_online:
this is exactly the point it comes down too, all the innovation, and ability to do real work on the microcomputer scale has always come from open environments, i mean ****, my macbook boots three operating systems, and has tons of *nix software compiled to run on it, apple won't take those abilities away, because some people do real work that requires this sort of functionality. Why is it ok now that machines have come to the masses?
[HTC EVO 3D] xian_online:
android is linux....

there is a serious problem with an operation system based upon a GNU license being locked from anything in anyway, even if the hardware is not under the license, it is a slap in the face to the millions of linux developers over the bast two decades who believed in the concept of open source. There needs to be a way to force linux based devices to be open in all ways if said manufacture chooses to use a free community based o/s and software.
[HTC EVO 3D] curiousGeorge:
Exactly the same thoughts as the OP. We really need to speak up, since HTC "claims" to be listening. Message them on facebook, tweet, and especially add a signature to the petition (in my sig and on http://wakeuphtc.blogspot.com/). The petition especially takes only a few seconds to sign.

This way, if HTC changes their mind, we don't have to jump ship. We wouldn't even have to consider it. I really don't like Samsung and its cheaply built phones and their pentile oversaturated (less accurate in color -- especially white -- and far less effective resolution) screens.
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
Yeah your right about that

virus kingdom port b112
[HTC EVO 3D] XTRoRDiNAiRE:
If evo 3d can't be rooted ima have to boot it !!

I refuse to have a phone that's not rooted

Screw u HTC !!
[HTC EVO 3D] SteelH:
If the bootloader is encrypted, I think I'll just stick with my EVO. No point in owning a phone I can't root.
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
With 30 days to try it out, why not. If the phone as is excites me more then my current rooted EVO then I will keep it, if not I will just return it. It will also make the wait to another device easier as I will have a month to play with the 3d while waiting for something else.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
That's pretty much my plan...except I will not keep it if this fiasco isn't sorted out to my liking. Since I preordered I have been imaging CM7 and MIUI on that beast...and if that isn't possible I just don't care enough to keep it. but RS already has my money and I do want to play with the 3D, but, it goes back home if HTC gives us the deep-dicking....and I'll never buy HTC ever again.
[HTC EVO 3D] JasonK75:
I want to phone but if we can't get MIUI ported to it forget about it. We'll all go to SGS2.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
If you run MIUI then this totally makes sense as its a pretty buggy experience as it is so you won't notice the Samsung issues.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
Really, because I have been running MIUI for the past few weeks and it has been nothing but a positive experience for me. Especially the latest release.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
I was partly joking and trying to agonize Jason :-). I haven't had a very positive MIUI experience for awhile- constant bugs and glitches. It sucks because it use to be my favorite Rom.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] westdb2:
Nexus S 4G

I just cancelled my preorder of the evo 3d.

I am a big fan of htc in general and I like my hero a lot w/ cyanogen 7.0.3!

I will probably go with the Nexus S 4G, unless something I like better comes along.
[HTC EVO 3D] texasez:
No, I will not buy the 3D if unable to root.
[HTC EVO 3D] slaakker:
Was looking forward to new phone, now I'll just stick with my regular Evo. Thanks a lot HTC.....
[HTC EVO 3D] XTRoRDiNAiRE:
Seriously who needs an evo 3d with these awesome kingdom ports

*KiNGDOM COME TO THOU EVO*
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
GB Sense for Nexus S if anyone is looking to follow through on their HTC boycott

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1034130

Its for GSM but the CDMA port is coming
[HTC EVO 3D] wiebenik:
Answer on this thread

No i will buy lg optimus 3d and HTC bey bey forever
[HTC EVO 3D] vWvSTATICvWv:
I'm no dev, but could that leak help us out @ all???
[HTC EVO 3D] XTRoRDiNAiRE:
Too bad this phone is not for sprint :-/

This phone looks very nice better than the evo 3d imo

*KiNGDOM COME TO THOU EVO*
[HTC EVO 3D] kdepro:
I just bought my nexus s 4g yesterday and i love it.

thoughts:

1. im going to be very upset if HTC released false lock information in order to see how much sales would suffer

2. i hope the sgs2 doesnt come to sprint for a while because im going to be very jealous, but i just could take it anymore.

3. the nexus s is awesome, but the dev community for the 4g version isnt even close to comprehensive as the hero community. ( this is my way of thanking all the amazing hero devs and asking them to get nexus s 4g devices :D )
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
I want an open phone. They lock and I run.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Gotta love the 30 day satisfaction guarantee. Within 30 days we will likely know more about both the EVO 3D (it may even be out) and the SGS2.
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
It is now unlocked!!
[HTC EVO 3D] IceCreaMan:
I'm still getting it, I only need wifi tether and root explorer. I'll keep my preorder
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gentelman678:
MMS IN SGS MORROCAN MEDITELECOM DONT WORK:mad:; THE CONFIGURATION IS GOOD BUT WHEN SEND MMS THIS PLANTE IN SEND. SOLUTION PLEASE.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gentelman678:
Call to developers to make arabic gingerbread roms

Call to developers to make arabic gingerbread roms. please:cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gentelman678:
call to criskelo to add arabic patch in v53

call to criskelo to add arabic patch in v53. THANKS FOR THE GREAT WORK:)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] otester:
Apart from DLNA, how do you get tv-out to work via cable?

MHL cables seem to be unavailable in the UK at least.

I heard the N95/N96 3.5mm RCA cable works, is this true, can anyone validate this claim?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Menthix:
It doesn't, there was already a thread on this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1069246
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NZtechfreak:
Definitely not true, I tried with mine, as have several others.

MHL cable/adapters on sale June apparently, should be available a bit before that though, since its coming in the retail box for the Infuse 4G.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] otester:
The wait is on I guess, thanks for the info guys.

Any ideas on price yet?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayleterleir:
OK, this is probably gonna sound really really dumb, but are Odin/Heimdall the official Samsung flashing tools or are they community made? And if they aren't, may I ask how Samsung flash roms onto their devices?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brilldoctor:
Hemidall is community made, odin is leaked from samsung
[HTC Inspire 4G] Chad_Petree:
At&t hasnt even announced their plans to update the Inspire 4G and i was thinking, since the Desire HD is pretty much the exact same phone, can i flash the Desire HD official gingerbread rom? im asuming ill lose the 3g/4g capabilities but that can be solved by flashing the AT&t radio after i flash the update, right? :confused: