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[EVO 4G General] :
your saying there are more data plans for feature phones is laughable and i love how you just make this claim without any figures to back it up, as if it were a fact. how, with android phones being so popular, is this possibly true? if this is by some stretch of possibility true, its really sad that people are paying $69.99 to access limited mobile data. your defense of carriers and general attitude makes me sick. im in fact deleting my xda account right now, mostly because of your arrogant ignorance and the increasing number of people like you i have interacted with on xda recently. have your laughs and enjoy your empty sense of pride at my expense as i un-register and further prove my point.
[EVO 4G General] :
The current plans were created for a generation that used WAP and had java mail apps and such. The phones didn't use such massive bandwidth at one time. nor did they use comparitvely as much data as what phones are capable of.

At these old plans they were made to scale the network at those costs for those low usage phones. The plans have to be modernized to keep up with the changing of the times and data usage. It has skyrocketed they can't upkeep teh network or the company at the old pricings. They must change them so that the company can keep going. Also if you say things are just fine for teh company where is your proof.? my statement is logical as with anything as times go on.

People are saying 60$ is to much to have now.

Oh hell if you have more than 512mb of ram thats to much . Thats what your saying basically. As times go on numbers go up. rarely do prices fall for things like internet usage. They get higher because more WE as people are using.

The times of old pricings are over and the new ones are coming in..
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Umm.... i'm not even going to reply to this. The only arrogance in this statement is yours.
[EVO 4G General] :
yea +1 to that but i already did XD
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
It's amazing the mindset of some people... I have stories for days of some the CRAZY things people request, or should I say, demand.
[EVO 4G General] :
Those are some of the things I would like to hear lol.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
For starters.... let's just begin with 1 member here on XDA. I put up the promotion for the 300 free bonus minutes coming up and he was mad that he doesn't even use the 450 minutes his plan comes with and now he has to call in for 300 more (don't know why he'd call in for it if he doesn't even use the other ones but anyway) and would prefer Sprint credit him the 300 minutes at $0.45 a minute every month instead. That's a $135 credit monthly towards his $79.99 plan for a free promotion.... riiiiggghhhttttt
[EVO 4G General] :
Errr thats outrageouse probably way beyond that. I got unlimated data (slow speeds int eh barstow area soo ehh XD), and my 1500 minutes, most of which to mobile phones soo im good to go. as for the promotion thing most people don't need it but some do. Its free no one should be crying over a free promotion because it doesn't benifit you. It is geared towards only a select group of people not everyone ....
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Just goes to show the mentality of some people

Sent from my spaceship!
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
So I'm on the fence about this. Any lawyers in the house?

Is it illegal to use wireless tether app on a carrier that does not allow it or is it against the terms of the agreement?

I see the word illegal thrown around a bit. Is there any US laws that state specifically using a wireless data service you pay for in a unintended way (in this case wireless tether app on at&t) against the law?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
It is against your contract with the provider which could lead to legal action.

Sent from my spaceship!
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
Legal action such as suing yes, but is the actual act of tethering in the hypothetical legal?

For arguments sake, I can force my smaller brother into signing a contract stating he is my slave but it is against US law so it supersedes my contract.
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
They very idea that people need laws to define things in the space of data routing serves to show how out of control the legal system is.

Seriously, are we asking about legal Symantecs of data proxying?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
No the problem is people think data is "free" and created from thin air.... It costs money and when people abuse it, it costs everyone more money. Do companies want to spend more? No, so they take things away.

Sent from my spaceship!
[EVO 4G General] Slatter39:
Dirty, you have to understand that there are so many things that shouldnt be done but are being done. I strongly believe that once you are here, your phone is rooted (i stand corrected) and isnt that against normal purposes? I believe once you root your phone it voids the warranty thus making it wrong in the eyes of the manufaturers and the carriers. Yes inasmuch as its wrong and illegal to tether without geting it from Sprint, people are going to find a way to do it. Also inasmuch as it is wrong to root our phones in the yes of Sprint and HTC people are going to find a way to do it. That doesnt mean its right. The thief is the one who has been caught.

CAN WE ALL GET ALONG?
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Wrong. As you put it... it voids your warranty to root, but in no was is illegal.

Stealing, on the other hand, is illegal, not just "wrong" as you put it.

I don't work for sprint... nor do i really care what others do to sprint... but when it affects me i do care. People tethering and using more data then they are paying for causes slower speeds for everyone. Thats the only reason I care enough to argue about this.

There is no other way to look at it... it IS illegal, no matter how you try to phrase it, or try rationalize it. That doesn't mean your going to stop... or that you will ever be caught, but what you are doing is still illegal.
[EVO 4G General] Slatter39:
Like Sprint really cares about you. Whether we like it or not Sprint will still be there.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
What does that have to do with what I said? oh yeah :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] :
Are you people really that selfish to use a bunch of data with a tethering application and sap others bandwith. Are you that selfish that YOU are more important than the next man. Really guys? Really?
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
Yes, I think it is a legitimate question.

At this point the Pandora box was opened already. If the carriers are really gun ho about making it an absolute pain to prevent tethering unless you are already paying for it is to come out with another OS that would compete with the rest.

That is a tall order.

The basic issue is people hate paying more for that they are already paying for. However most do not understand the idea of inflation and why it happens. But don't think for one minute any Corp cares about the little guy and his cost of living. A Corp by nature is to always increase profits.
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
Good luck expecting man to self police itself without someone on top of them telling them the rules.
[EVO 4G General] zcarman:
In the realm of reality... The AT&T-Mobile merger will happen, for the greater good of our nation... Then Verizon Wireless will scoop up a few regional carriers to keep pace and each company will settle in with about 110 million subscribers. Sprint will be left in the toolies with about 50 million total - including prepaid - before Google completes their purchase of Skype.

Google/Grandcentral/Gizmo/Skype will then need a network to base their services from, at which point Clear will be bankrupt, Sprint struggling under the weight of a network gone broke and they will be on the block for about 1/2 of what their value is today.

Goo-skype will then make a formal tender to purchase Sprint/Nextel/Clear, which will be a steal for the partners that Clear still has on board to recover any of the cash they have lost - even if it's a penny on the dollar.

You will then have Google as the 3rd largest carrier in the US where you can have a data only plan - unthrottled/unmetered - that is used for voice, text and data. For around $30 a month you get the basic plan, with speeds good enough for voice and data, but it will be location ad supported... For $50 a month, you get speeds good enough for voice/data and streaming and it will not be ad supported. For $75 a month, you get full 6-10Mpbs speeds, unlimited data and Wi-Fi hotspot access for up to 5 additional devices...

Doesn't that seem great? And with Google driving the pony show, they will link with the manufacturers to make some amazing devices that work ONLY on the Google network... :)
[EVO 4G General] AbsolutZeroGI:
I'm not trying to insult, but I love how you started this post with "in the realm of reality". Lmao, good stuff. I wish Google had their own service. Then threads like this won't exist :P
[EVO 4G General] Slatter39:
Nice one there.
[EVO 4G General] skylar.sutton:
All right, I thought I was done with this thread but I couldn't let these two gems go by without poking holes in them:

My old Sprint Mogul had a $20 internet plan to cover it's WAP and mail usage. The new plans have already been adjusted for higher data use and the phones expected to really be bandwidth hogs are getting the extra $10 on top of that.

I see someone has never taken Economic 101. Your argument is price rises because demand rises... but you're forgetting that if supply rises at the same rate there is little to no affect on the price.

Internet prices have FALLEN for over 20 years now. You can't look at just the "monthly price", you need to take the speed being offered into the equation. I remember paying $50 a month for 56k service over the telephone lines... and that's back when $50 bought a lot more than it does today, and 56k was an insane amount of data usage. Cable broadband was in the hundreds of dollars per month when it premiered, I pay less than $30 now.
[EVO 4G General] skylar.sutton:
You must not work in the technology sector. Data clients are not black holes that siphon bandwidth away from other clients. My data use ONLY begins to affect your data use if the network is at peak capacity... which it's not.

Sprint has so much network capacity they have been selling it off to the retail world (ala Amazon Kindle).

Please, leave the technology discussions to those that understand it.
[EVO 4G General] :
If you ahve noticed these plans were set a year or so ago and even then the time have changed greatly since then. They are adjusting for the future to come so you don't ***** and grip then, when they would increase then.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Only if at peak usage? Have you seen peoples data speeds on xda? I would say sprint is at its peak capacity in a lot of areas...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=933900&highlight=slow+data

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1059203&highlight=slow+data

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1050738&highlight=slow+data

I can go on and on.
[EVO 4G General] skylar.sutton:
There are two (major) connections at play here:

Your connection between device and tower

The carrier's connection between tower and internet

Troubles in connection #1 is obvious... 0 bars = bad, 5 bars = good. Troubles in connect #2 cannot be diagnosed by you or a speedtest result.

To connect a tower to the internet, Sprint has to purchase (multiple) internet connections from an ISP and wire them into the tower. To dumb it down a little, the tower becomes a gigantic wireless router that relays your traffic out to the real internet. Any "slowness" could be caused by:

Problems with the non-Sprint ISP (you know, like the problems you have with Cox, or Time Warner, or WOW, etc.)

Problems within the tower (you know, like when your router acts falkey and needs rebooting)

The tower is at capacity

What does all this mean? "Capacity" is not the same thing as "my intertubes are slow".

Don't make assumptions about technologies you don't understand.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
That's not even my point... it doesn't matter why its slow... if the connections slow and your using tons of band width that your not offically paying for your definitely not making it any better for anyone else.
[EVO 4G General] skylar.sutton:
I have entered into a contractual agreement with Sprint to pay $x per month for unlimited data.

I am very much "officially paying for it".
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
To use as they allow, you forgot that part.

Sent from my spaceship!
[EVO 4G General] Rene2.5RS:
It is all spelled out in the contract

From Sprint:

Unlimited Use Plans. If you subscribe to rate plans, services or features that are described as unlimited, you should be aware that such "unlimited" plans are subject to these Sprint Prohibited Network Uses.

Examples of prohibited data uses: Sprint data services are provided solely for purposes of web surfing, sending and receiving email, photographs and other similar messaging activities, and the non-continuous streaming of videos, downloading of files or on line gaming. Our data services may not be used: (i) to generate excessive amounts of Internet traffic through the continuous, unattended streaming, downloading or uploading of videos or other files or to operate hosting services including, but not limited to, web or gaming hosting; (ii) to maintain continuous active network connections to the Internet such as through a web camera or machine-to-machine connections that do not involve active participation by a person; (iii) to disrupt email use by others using automated or manual routines, including, but not limited to "auto-responders" or cancel bots or other similar routines; (iv) to transmit or facilitate any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, telemarketing, promotional materials, "junk mail", unsolicited commercial or bulk email, or fax; (v) for activities adversely affecting the ability of other people or systems to use either Sprint's wireless services or other parties' Internet-based resources, including, but not limited to, "denial of service" (DoS) attacks against another network host or individual user; (vi) for an activity that connects any device to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for the purpose of transmitting wireless data over the network (unless customer is using a plan designated for such usage); or (vi) for any other reason that, in our sole discretion violates our policy of providing service for individual use.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
The problem is people don't read contracts and think because they pay for a service they can use it however they want even if the contract specifically states not to.
[EVO 4G General] smatherlee:
Thats the main issue is people only read what they want to read and then complain when it doesn't go their way.
[EVO 4G General] wingzing85:
they really need to just keep to their mantra of being open and free
[EVO 4G General] :
I have restated what the contract says so many time actually, I may have memorized the summary of the entire thing. Other than that IDk when people will take a hint.
[EVO 4G General] xfullmetal17:
I only use tether when I need to connect my DS away from home. Maybe once I've used it with my laptop when there was no wifi, but I never went higher than 10MB on it. I use more data than that on most days with the actual phone. It's not like I'm trying to use Xbox Live with it or something. =/
[XPERIA X10 General] Killroy260:
Hey guys, sorry to post this, because i am probably just missing something, but I would like to know how to update my Xperia to 2.1 threw the official update. I am in the U.S. and have AT&T. I think i read somewhere that you must "debrand" the phone to allow it to update. This is my only phone so I am trying my hardest not to brick it. I am completely new to the phone enhancement world so I do not want to mess it up.

If someone has a link to a thread that explains all this or could just post the steps needed, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks for any Help

Dustin
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
Here is a noobproof guide to debranding your AT&T handset

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=928343

Chris.
[XPERIA X10 General] stan.s:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1012380

That link will take you to the AT&T update thread. It's got the links and downloads to take you to a very compatible 2.1 with dual touch, and how to replace the Google Voice search app, and reinstall the AT&T cell tower info app (optional) which they say will let AT&T send sms messages in emergency situations.

Once you're on this, you will find it easier to move to another one if you want to.
[XPERIA X10 General] Killroy260:
Thanks to agentJBM recent post, it was really simple to update. I am up and running and loving every minute of it. The Video is high quality, the UI is really smooth. Now i just can't wait for the Gingerbread update ;)
[General Questions and Answers] novice_1:
I was given a phone by a relative to learn to program on. This is my first attempt at customizing any electronic device to my own style and tastes. This phone was previously rooted (not sure what that means) and the hard reset (again not sure). I was given this web address and told to ask questions.

I cannot get past the opening home page for Cellular South. The screen comes on and the logo is blocked by a black box that pops up when the phone tries to go to the home screen.

After a couple mins the phone turns off. When I turn it back on the Samsung logo appears for a sec. before the Cellular South Logo pops up.

I guess my questions start with how can I gain control of the operating process? sort of like the task manager on a pc I think?

Thank you in advance for understanding the low level of knowledge that I have in this field.
[General Questions and Answers] novice_1:
Voodoo Lagfix

With more playing with the phone (Galaxy S, Cellular South), I have found a recovery program CwM Voodoo Lagfix.

Can someone point me in a direction to find out how to use this program?
[General Questions and Answers] phocus:
Turn the phone off.

Hold down the volume up, and the volume down.... pres and hold the power button.

You should get to clock work recovery.

google clock work recovery one usage.
[General Questions and Answers] novice_1:
Thanx Phocus, but that was over my head. I am really really new to this. Where would you suggest I look to get some good foundation knowledge?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] worldwaffle:
Hi guys. I wouldn't consider myself great at hacking (Someone gave me their old LG Ally, so I figured I'd root it and try to install Ubuntu on it), so please forgive me if this question is "noobish." Also, I didn't see a LG Ally forum, so I hope it's okay that I post here.

As stated earlier, I want to install Ubuntu on my Ally. I'm having some trouble, and think it's most likely because it doesn't support loop devices. If it doesn't, could you reccommend a ROM that does?

Thanks.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] mb2k:
Disregard, I was mistaken
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rdannar:
THIS IS A PORTED ROM MEANT FOR ANOTHER DEVICE THIS IS NOT A MODIFIED VERSION OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S ROM THAT IS JUST THEMED OR TWEAKED

This is a port from superAOSPnexus from the nexus phone SuperAosp

Again much credit to J and Z without there base files my ports wouldn't happen.

this software is my own purposes and development as I am not responsible if you decide to use this software on your device.

If any of this software is illegal or copyright pm me and I will remove

I am not responsible for any damage that you do to your phone.

Look at the rom download to see wich baseband it uses

install at your own risk... I take no blame for what you do to your phone.​

1.You must have xrecovery or freexperia recovery installed to use this zip

2. You must be on baseband 52 to use this file. I always use newest flashtool and flash .435 firmware then flash the bb52 file.

3. then download the rom you wish to install

4. Now go into recovery menu and wipe data twice

5 Now wipe cache twice

6. Now wipe dalvik in advanced tools menu of recovery

7. Now flash the rom you want on your phone and wait for it to reboot by itself once​

8. Use and enjoy

working on stable 2.3.3 gingerbread

SUP SETTINGS

3D MUSIC

LOCKSCREEN TWEAKS

METAMORPH THEME CHANGER

and many more sup options

data

apps to sdcard

calls

audio

gps (untested)

led

Wifi

flash

lights

sensor

hw lights

torch

messaging

gallery

video streaming

​

bugs/not working

camera

camcorder

​

DOWNLOADS

Dualboot arc version with 2.3.3

timescape, arc launcher, loaded with live wallpapers, volume control, and more

WARNING this download installs xrecovery 1.0.0 for dual boot, if you want to go back to freexperia recovery than use newest flash tool and re-install recovery.

loadedSuperarc_Dualboot.zip.html

download newest WIP

http://hotfile.com/dl/118272705/426b090/SuperAospOverdrive3a.zip.html

all things working in the 2.3.4 are same as 2.3.3 except

titanium backup and root explorer can't get root permission

even though the other apks still get permission?​

If you want to add kernel see 2nd post

download STABLE 2.8.4 version

overdrive2.3.3stable.zip.html​

this is newest 2.8.4 barebones working on bb 67

http://hotfile.com/dl/119309366/53bb79d/back2BASICSd.zip.html

download the stable 2.8.4 version (barebones 62mb) updated 27-5 and works on bb 52

back2BASICSb.zip.html

Archived rom of arc rom

TMR_ARC_005c_stripped.zip.html​
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rdannar:
MIUI 2.3.4

EXTRAS FOR ROM AND CHANGE LOG

Want TIMESCAPE AND ARC LAUNCHER

just install through recovery

Timescape.zip.html​

Use this zip to go to stock kernel

back2stockWIFIfix.zip.html​

Use this zip to add k10 kernel and/or fix if wifi isn't working on kernel

addKernelWIFI_fix.zip.html​

Use this to fix sensors thanks to cobrato

sensors_j13.zip.html​

WANT TO USB TETHER WITH THIS ROM

only works with k10 kernel

USE THIS http://hotfile.com/dl/117535851/955fa0d/easytether.7z.html​

CHANGE LOG MAY 14 2011

uploaded overdrive2 which is 2.3.4 gingerbread

new sup settings work from settings menu

spare parts 4

added k10kernel

CHANGE LOG MAY 11 2011

made a stable version of the 2.3.3 (2.8.4)

fixed gmail

added themes from 2.3.4

fixed most of the small bugs from older version so it can be used as adaily rom

everything working except camera/proximity sensor

CHANGE LOG May 9 2011

ported 2.3.4 gingerbread version of superAOSP

newest super@tmel version 8 with sup settings 20

new boot animation

this is just like original ported rom

dalvik to cache/data

sdcard speedfix

theme chooser

additional theme options (circle battery and more)

fixed wlod and fc errors

gmail is working again

Change Log 5/6/2011

new busy box

reindero optimized apks

some file changes

new wallpaper (thanks rendeiro)

only install sup settings from market to test for WLOD

added themes changer
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MrHassell:
have you tired extract to - /data/local/tmp

You could make an update.zip as this thread by DooMLoRD goes a good way to explaining (managed to muck up myself..)

Or you could do this in your script - /system;

$systemMount = mount | busybox grep /system | busybox awk '{print $1}'

mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2, ' + systemMount + ' /system

Just a small tweak for /data or other partition, following the same logic :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rdannar:
i get what you are saying and you can do that on files in the phone but this is for rom installation so I can't do that in the update script that installs rom... our recovery doesn't allow that... are you saying to put it in the chargemon?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rdannar:
used notepad ++ to edit

when I say it doesn't copy anything... the ui words appear but the whole rom flash takes about 10 seconds without copying over system. data. boot..... absolutely no errors appear during install and it goes through complete script showing my ui text