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[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Motorola tends to have better build quality than Samsung, and with their qHD screens they're about even. qHD resolution on a smartphone is too good. sAMOLED+ isn't good enough to sway me form a decent qHD screen with Gorilla glass... Not with a WVGA resolution on an even bigger screen... The different is stark, if you put something like an Inspire 4G (4.3 WVGA) next to an Atrix (4.1 qHD).

Only thing I'm skeptical about with Motos phones, is the Webtop bull****. I think it's a waste of resources and they should release a ROM without WebTop in it so that people can flash it and not have all that bloat on their phone. That, and they really need to refine Blur. It looks like Windows XP on a phone, but less performant.

Samsung is baking too many 3rd party services into touchwiz. That's a showstopper for me.

So I'll probably wait it out with the Vibrant and HD7 unti lthe next wave of dual core phones start coming out... Maybe around fall or so.

1. WVGA on a 4.3" screen is for 2010. Not gonna buy anything that big with that resolution, no matter what kind of display it has. qHD or go home, IMO. So the SGS2 is out.

3. Too many 3rd party services embedded in Samsung's TouchWiz. Browser on SGS2 looks slow in reviews. Ditto ^

4. Blur looks fisher price. Atrix has performance issues. It's only on AT&T. Build quality is terrible compared to the Droid X.

5. HTC phones always have a myriad of issues: Poor build quality/materials used, bad/weak radios, poor sound, bat battery life. Sense simply isn't as attractive compared to the alternatives the way it was even a year ago. WVGA resolution on relatively mediocre 4.3" display panels.

SE builds nice phones, but I'm not gonna bother with them until I'm sure htey know how to update them in a timely manner. Apart from that, can't really complain about their phones. Build is always good, displays are great. Cameras are wonderful. And their customizations are always pretty good (but rather deep and it causes problems for them IRT updates).

EDIT: Another thing I hate about Samsung phones is that their TouchWiz skin is coded in a way that widgets like GMail Unread Count never line up properly with other icons. It makes all of those useless on their phones, because it causes text/graphics overlaps among other things.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
The LG screen doesn't have the PenTile matrix which does make the Vibrant's Super Amoled look a bit... rough

Some people don't notice it, some do and hate it.

The SGSII will not have that, though.
[Vibrant General] Blkegk:
Until HTC offers a phone with more then 1gb of internal storage, I will not ever consider buying one.

Also HTC is starting to lock down its phones.

SGSII all the way.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Lol that too...
[Vibrant General] Vibrant03:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=piPZWJzorBU&v=piPZWJzorBU&gl=US

Just sharing..
[Vibrant General] Paging Dr B:
True but their phones are ****, not 'the ****'.
[Vibrant General] mugenfiji0327:
Man you have been all over this thread, arguing with everybody about everything. It's okay to have your own opinion but to come at it in an argumentative way like you are is just ridiculous. It's a forum man you don't have to take every post to heart and think you have to defend yourself. Just give it up dude, HTC is crap accept it and move on.
[Vibrant General] glensta:
Just like my ex g/f's :-P

Sent from Glensta's phone
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
Don't worry, most people who hate Samsung either never had one and just follow what others complain about, or got another phone and are trying to justify their decision. HTC will never get another cent out of me personally until they solve their hardware issues.

-power button on HD2 causing touch screen failure

-power button issues on Nexus One

-crap digitizer on Nexus One

-dust in the screen on the N1

-creaky plastic construction on HD7 (to those mocking Samsung, at least they plastic doesn't creak nearly as much)
[Vibrant General] grlddawkin:
htc definitely, samsung has been dissApointing. no led notify, gps just doesn't work and their unwillingness to upgrade
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
1. Use NoLed

2. GPS was improved in the SGSII

3. Blame the carriers. Samsung already gave the international Galaxy S gingerbread.
[Vibrant General] All~G1:
This ^^^

I'll wait for the first in-hand reviews, let the dev community build, and the bugs to be worked out... then ill decide.
[Vibrant General] mugenfiji0327:
It doesn't matter what the devs do for HTC phones they will still suck ass, Samsung is better and always will be better than HTC. Don't even get me started on sense either, it's so worthless. It's a complete joke, compared to touchwiz or any other launcher out there.
[Vibrant General] os2baba:
Same here. I won't be buying another Samsung phone for a very very long time. I have always liked HTC phones and I'd like to get back to Cyanogen.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Noled is no replacement or suitable alternative for a notification light.

A phone should have a functioning notification led. My HD7 and hd2, even my jack and arIa had that. It doesn't need to be fancy with two thousand colors. It just need to exist.

My blackberry certainly had it and god forbid you ever use one of those... Anything without a led will seem useless afterwards.

These phones were crap on release. Thoroughly disappointing. Overhead and this very forum was blowing up from complaints about battery life, lag, screen burn in, hardware lock, rfs, gps, ji6 pricking their phone, etc.

HTC you could get a different HTC phone, but literally all Samsung phones were galaxy s variants and almost all of them shared the same issues. That made it much worse than some isolated n1 or HD2 issues...

And people like me went through two exchanges hoping they were lemons. No... The phones were just that bad. They are usable now, but not really relevant anymore either...
[Vibrant General] ColbyRyptos:
HTC has no internal memory .... enough said lol
[Vibrant General] jbeez:
I ordered a ns 4g for sprint. I love my vibrant, like the notion of faster software releases, and moving away from tmo after 9yrs now that they want to get in bed with at&t. Its unfortunate because I really like tmo customer service. I like having a sim card too. Oh wellls we'll see how it goes

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S - powered by Team Whiskey™
[Vibrant General] midnite23:
Probably go back to HTC. The majority of my smartphones have been HTC ever since my first one, the Wizard. I might even try the G2X. But, Samsung can go eat dung for all I care. I'm finished with them once I get the cash for a new one.
[Vibrant General] Blown 89:
Just because something feels cheap doesn't mean that it is. Everyone totes the iPhone with superior quality yet simply holding the phone kills signal and the glass is inferior to the Vibrant's Gorilla glass. Drop both phones from shoulder length and tell me which one you think will come out unharmed? I'd put money on the Vibrant sustaining less damage. People's opinions of build quality are WAY off base. Just because it's light doesn't mean its build quality sucks. A Formula One car is light...that doesn't mean it's not well made. The notion that light = cheap just points out how little people know about build quality.
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
And don't forget all of HTC's all other build quality issues. Dust in the screen, creaky buttons, creaky backplate on the HD7, off centered FFC on the mytouch 4g, half of the displays being washed out of the mytouch 4g.
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
Isolated N1 and HS2 issues? The N1 obviously had a faulty broken button on every single device, forcing you to use the trackball or return it HTC. The HD2 has an widespread issue where the power button kills the screen. A ribbon connecting the digitizer sits right under the power button, eventually breaking with repeated power button usage.

People also had ridiculous dust issues with the N1. The fix? Send it to HTC or heat the screen up with a hairdryer in hopes that it will reseal the screen. :rolleyes:
[Vibrant General] flipnotiq:
using a vibrant and a g2. honestly i like the vibrant just for the screen. g2 for the design and my weekend phone lol. cm7 on the g2 is the shiiiiiiiit
[Vibrant General] nraudigy2:
I have both Vibrant and G2X. Vibrant screen does look pixilated when I put them next to each other. I prefer G2X's screen over Vibrant's with its natural colors and sharpness for reading texts. SGS2 has impressive hardware but the build quality kills it for me. G2X feels very sturdy in my hands.
[Vibrant General] Mannymal:
Same here. My contract still has a year and a half, and I can easily see myself waiting that long with the Vibrant. I love it and its only getting better.
[Vibrant General] vvsnail:
thats like comparing apples to ORANGES.. SG2 ALL THE WAY
[Vibrant General] Segnaro:
I hope there's a Nexus S II. I want Ice Cream already :)
[Vibrant General] caffeinated chris:
Thank you! finally someone who agrees with me.

Thats almost exactly what I said a page or 2 back haha.
[Vibrant General] Paging Dr B:
WP7?

I love android, but recently played with a Windows Phone 7 phone (HTC HD7) and was blown away by the OS and the layout. Everything worked great, and looked amazing while doing it. If microsoft can line up some better hardware I might be looking to jump ship.
[Vibrant General] junglerumble:
Hopefully the successor the the SGS2 will be metal. My next phone will either be the SGS3 or whatever it's called, or the iphone 6 :D

I'll be sticking with my vibrant for a while
[Vibrant General] unikuser:
Got my SGS recently. Am staying with it for now
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
If the Android 18 months guaranteed update thing goes through (announced at Google IO), then Sammy all the way. Best hardware + good software.
[Vibrant General] caffeinated chris:
oh wow i didnt even notice that. Yes as stated..

"...carriers and manufacturers are more forcefully pushed towards updates..."

i like the sound of that. So all the people worried about carriers holding samsung software updates (like for instance the froyo SGS issue)... well here's the fix ;)

looks good on ya google.

I FREAKIN LOVE GOOGLE
[Vibrant General] mobiask:
I am I can't wait
[Vibrant General] raduque:
Personally, I can't stand blinkenlites on my cell phone. Always hated it on all my dumbphones, my HTC Wing and my myTouch 3G. I'm so damn glad my Vibrant doesn't have one.

It's bad enough my monitors have all these glowly lights on them - I disconnected the power and HDD LEDs on my PC, and ripped out the ones mounted on the cooling fans.

Edit: To be on-topic, I was looking at the G2X simply for the gaming, but now I'm not sure. I had previously stated #NeverAgain, but if everything I hate about the Vibrant is fixed on the SGS2.... maybe. But, then again, we all thought the SGS variants were going to fix everything Samsung failed on with the Moment and Behold II.
[Vibrant General] caffeinated chris:
So far looks like they fixed a few things. Like first of all, the 18-month google guarantee, which will force samsung to come out with more updates upon new android versions.

And we also know they have Touchwiz 4.0, which if you try it on your vibrant, its pretty nasty haha.

And lastly, we also know they were written in ext4. So no need to add a lagfix.

Looks like big ol sammy is trying to make the new phone a little bit better.

Not to mention UK guys are saying some of them got the phone pre-rooted as well.. Crazy! Of course, we all Know for a fact that wont happen here, but its sweet either way that Samsung would do that.
[Vibrant General] raduque:
We'll see, caffeinated chris. I've read the GPS still sucks on the SGS2. ;)
[Vibrant General] caffeinated chris:
ahhh we will see indeed. my hopes are as high as anyone else's who plans on getting the phone haha.

hopefully its not all, but maybe UK's SGSII's.

I doubt they'd fix everything except the stupid GPS antenna. Seems so odd of a problem that can be resloved sooooo easily while putting the phone together. Its just simply a poorly placed piece of copper.

They better fix it lmao
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
Calliph posted this on twitter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2Kp4ekWNs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Now I just have to choose whether I'll pay my tuition or buy that phone lol
[Vibrant General] timmyja:
Im hoping dat 1 day i can get it cause i am real impressed wit my vibrabt
[Vibrant General] Vibrant03:
hopefully it comes in july like last year with the vibrant.. not in august or september..

it's soooo smooth, better UI and functions.. powerful.. what more can we say?

can't wait! errr
[Vibrant General] caffeinated chris:
alright so, I think I decided on a different phone haha. As I'm sure you guys have heard of the possible 'Samsung Hercules' phone haha. That makes me want that haha.

and ps. as RichieHD stated before that Sensation will be better for rooting, modding, etc.

heres some fun news for that..

"the htc sensation having a signed kernel, locked/signed bootloader, signed recovery, and that it's memlocked. Which to me sounds like no root ever.."

read that on another thread. Might want to rethink which phone you want next if that was the most important thing to you was rooting and modding and so on.
[Vibrant General] burgon:
It's tough to know how the back of the SGS2 will feel. When I got the vibrant, I thought the plastic back felt weak and wouldn't protect the phone.

Then I one day I dropped my phone on pavement. It bounced! Literally just bounced around. I picked it up and it was just fine. Having a flexible plastic back that can give and rebound is very smart. It works a lot better than a back made of, oh I don't know, ...... GLASS?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ebzrascal:
These are some of the Apps I would like to see in the WP7 marketplace

Bump

WhatsAPP

Fring

Layer

Paypal

Word Lens

Lose IT

Around ME

what would you guys like to see ???
[Windows Phone 7 General] dtboos:
ten characters
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
what are you doing until mango ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] valaris:
Personally I would love for the Gameloft/Gamevil games to make their way to the marketplace. Only thing I miss about iOS is Zenonia series and Dungeon Hunter.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
LOL...well said,you made my day mate...I can't even figure out what I can do until Mango.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mike6787:
i wana see longman dictionary .and oxford one

nba game time

infinity blade
[Windows Phone 7 General] dtboos:
Trick question? Using my phone lol. Did I somehow make you think I couldn't function without a Layar app?

These things are not necessities to function, just what I would like to see, and they are coming.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Lol... Agree.

Also, on the Kik thing...

Kik has been Kicked (pun intended) off of Blackberry, and it doesn't have nearly as many users as WhatsApp has. It requires yet another account creation in addition to downloading the app. WhatsApp goes by phone numbers.

WhatsApp works on Android, iOS, Blackberry, and Symbian.

Sorry, but anyone who does a lot of communication on their smartphones know that Kik is no suitable replacement for WhatsApp.

I don't even consider it an alternative.

What we need is something like Trillian for WP7, not Kik...

The OP also failed to mention Skype and Pandora. (Well I guess it was his list, I was going by the thread title :P )
[Windows Phone 7 General] dtboos:
On what? I was answering the guys post, and responded to his list. That was it.

What an odd question. What am I doing until Mango? Not IM'ing? Not using Layar? Same thing as everybody else? It just happens that almost everything he listed is coming, and we know when its coming.

Other than apps Mango is going to allow (WhatsApp will probably come as well) I don't think we will be 'missing' many apps. I just want added functionality in the OS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
It seems as though this community thinks you need to be able to "do" something with the phone every day rather than just use it... I guess this comes from the flashing of ROMs and such... You guys are so accustomed to the WM days where we HAD to "do" something every day to make the phone usable... I'm going to agree here and say I'm going to "use" my phone, I'm going to continue texting, taking pictures, emailing, fbing, tweeting, 4sqing...etc
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
10 characters
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Would still prefer Trillian... At least from my experiences with IM+ in the past... I hope they can prove me wrong this time though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
The only thing we'd like to do is install an app, but unfortunately those apps are impossible to install on our phones becaue they're impossible to implement.

This has nothing to do with Windows Mobile. I came to WP7 from Android, and if you read my posts in the Vibrant forum you'd know that I've never touched my phone in the way you seem to infer.

I have never modded any of my WM or Android devices. It's not my thing.

This OS isn't subpar because people want to mod them. It's subpar because it was designed as a subpar Feature Phone OS with good hardware while they finished the other half over the next year.

And now we'll probably have to sit on it even longer while Microsoft gives Nokia a cookie.

I dunno why you're going on and on about the WM/Android Modding crutch.

The OS just does not cut it compared to Android and iOS even if you're never modded your phone - ever, on any other platform you've used.

You paid $500 for a phone to wait a year for it to become as usable as a mid-ranged Android or Blackberry Curve? I sure as hell didn't, nor should I have been expected to do so...

It's not our fault the OS is in the shape its in, and has failed to impress anyone but a few fanbois here and there. It's Microsoft's fault.

Also, if you glance over my post history you'll see that I am equally vicious towards Android, iOS, and Blackberry as I am towards WP7. Trying to pawn me off as some Anti-Microsoft fanboi in this forum is quite hillarious... I am loyal to no platform, and equally critical of all of them. It only happens that this one is worse than the others.

Many of the criticism here can be found anywhere on the internet, even in formal reviews and unboxings. It's no mystery that this OS is both unfinished and if to be considered an actual smartphone OS (instead of a feature phone), Beta-quality.

And to the person after you, IM+ is inferior to Trillian in almost every possible way.

Also, the HD7 is a worse PHONE than the Vibrant, so even if I were willing to shut up and just deal with the OS' shortcomings, there is still that issue. The radio (or perhaps the radio firmware) is terrible and call quality and reception is not good. The external speakers are even worse than the cell radio.

I'll continue using my Vibrant to do half the **** you said you'll continue doing because it's a superior user experience. Push Notifications and Updates are simply superior on Android and there are things that are impossible to do on WP7 like emailing or MMSing videos.

But like I said, if you use your phone like a feature phone this OS no doubt seems very polished and "innovative."
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
This goes on about your arrogance and apparent self created worth in this forum. Who says everything I say is directed towards you? Did I say "Hey N8ter...." - Not to mention, the phone is usable enough for me... You're also comparing a mature OS, to one in its infancy... But this is part of the double standard here... Not to mention, the HD7 is a superior device to any Vibrant I've ever touched, sorry that your experience is different.

Phone is usable enough for me, I just wish some of you would quit trying to convince me differently. Getting out of the topic of this post, you guys even go into the topics labeled "I Love My WP7" and try to spew your venom... Which is where it gets rather annoying tbh, this is a WP forum, I don't constantly want to hear the same 4-5 users ***** about it...

You, and a select other few, also seem to hold your opinions as fact, and the second somebody successfully refutes an argument you have, you attack it even harder.. Regardless of how ridiculous your point is... You become upset when somebody enjoys the experience.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Not going to entertain you today.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Red Grenadine:
Mint.com

Skype/Fring

Good googletalk client

Sent from my Windows Phone using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] phoneguy 4567:
I see there is a new RDP client that works with Windows RDP. It's by Topperware and is called Remote Desktop, which is the same name as a existing VNC client in the Marketplace. It seems to connect just fine but the connection times out after a minute in the trial version, so I couldn't play around with it much.

I suspect it is using some sort of redirection to a server somewhere. You can't use a internal IP assigned by your router but must use your external internet IP.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jeffgeno:
MLB At Bat

Scrabble

Native Remote Desktop

An IM app, but that seems to be coming soon
[Windows Phone 7 General] brummiesteven:
I'm quite puzzled as to why there isn't a Tesco Clubcard App. Tesco have had "Tesco Real Food" and "Tesco Groceries" out on the market since launch.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vel0city1:
I really want to see many of Zynga's apps, such as Zynga Poker and Words with Friends. I realize there are many alternatives to those games, such as Full House Poker and Alpha Jax, but most of my friends play those Zynga games.
[Windows Phone 7 General] SMG-UK:
Made me laugh haha

I really can't remember many of the apps i was using on ios or all the various android phones i had but heres a few from top of my head:

Skype

Official Msn Messenger

Paypal

Dungeon Hunter & other Gameloft games (even though there are loads of great games for wp7)

Whatsapp (or something similar that allows sending photos as well)

Amazon Mp3

BBC iPlayer

Skyfire (until we get adobe flash)

Swype

Thats all for now that i can remember.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MrAdelphi02:
BBC iPlayer is a must...

There was a Tesco app http://www.windowsphoneapplist.com/tesco_groceries-a6192.html but it got pulled from the Marketplace...I installed it when I first got my Dell, but upon a hard rest I lost it and can't download it again...

Edit: Seems as if the Tesco app is still there, I just have my Zune 'locale' set to the US, so it doesn't show up...lol
[HD7 Accessories] spvc500:
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=203620

This official HTC tpu case has been very elusive since obtaining my hd7 back in November.

It is a bit pricy at £12 - (or £14 at the o2 shop) so I was wondering if anyone has actually paid for one and can tell me if it's any good.

I currently have a tpu case bought on play.com and it's not brilliant as I can not take a photo with the case on.

(taking photos isn't easy with the phone as it is!)

I bit the bullet and ordered one. I will update to give my opinion

Update:

http://wp7ahead.blogspot.com/2011/05/hd7-tpu-case-review.html

Video: http://youtu.be/8ZeE-f82800
[HD7 Accessories] alenaski:
Looks nice, but could add a bit of thickness. Let us know how it feels..
[HD7 Accessories] radhoy:
hi i have one already it is little thick fit the phone perfectly

feels good in the hand but i wonder why they keep this open area in the back
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mani00007:
I am newbie to this forum and i am needing help, Infact i bought htc hd 2 with android rom and i tried to revert it to original 6.5 win rom as given in a thread through SD card method and during the process my Mobile restarted stating an error message Software Update failed with black screen and then four color screen appears with "update rom code error please try again" statement

more details are like

P881100 HX-BC

SPL- 2.80 0000 8G Xe

MicroP(LED) 0x05

MicroP(TOUCH) 0x30

AND then i get another message of "Not Allowed" on Screen

Please any body tell me what to do I will be sincerely Obliged.