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[Atrix 4G General] Rayan:
If battery is that good, it more than compensates the lack of roms on this device.

I will go check it out and play with a working unit today after lunch.
[Atrix 4G General] rpolansky:
I may try Aura again someday. For me, the Google has been ok and the voice recognition/search is pretty nice (and I am being cheap in not wanting to pay for Aura until I know it works well). I do like loading maps offline. That is why I was surprised coming from the Nokia which had a mature nav app. I didn't realize about Google turn by turn nav being a beta app.
[Atrix 4G General] meet2x4:
Still loving mine. The only slow down I've noticed so far is when pressing the fingerprint scanner, it seems a bit more delayed in turning on the screen on the 183 update. Other than that the only qualm I have is having an Otterbox Defender for it so my accessory options are pretty much out the window and I have to make my own car mount for it.

I really can't wait for dual core optimized everything, but just like with desktop PC's switching to 64 bit and multiple cores it takes time to tailor the software market for that kind of coding to even take advantage of the tech. Besides, next year I'm sure we'll be vying (spelling) for those quad core Snapdraggin's in everything we buy ;)
[Atrix 4G General] nalorite:
I lust my atrix, but I don't love her. I would love my atrix if it could do SIP calls with sipdroid or csipsimple like my year old n1 can.
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
Definitely do not loose faith. Custom ROMs can be accomplised with the Atrix via 2nd init and it will then be able to run Cyanogen 7 2.3.4. I feel the porting of 2nd init completely will be done in the next month. Other phones like the Defy and Milestone have 2nd init made for them, and it must be simply tweaked to work with the Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] nalorite:
Hmm, could you please explain the difference between that and the pseudo ROMs we have now? As I understand it, the limitation of both is not being able to modify the kernel.
[Atrix 4G General] vjoom:
I agree with you, some people must have a defective phone or something. I never have any issue with my atrix. Battery great, fast and very responsive. Never crash.
[Atrix 4G General] panflute:
I don't get it either. The Atrix is blazing fast with plenty of room to spare. This last update made it even smoother. Some people don't know a good thing when they see it.
[Atrix 4G General] MojUk:
How about custom kernels mate? With locked boot loader can we use them? If not will this mean the phone is always limited to the official kernel release meaning you could never go beyond The current official release as supported by motorola? Cheers. Moj
[Atrix 4G General] Jotokun:
No custom kernels, but everything else could be modified, so its still better than the psudoroms available. You can still get newer releases though, from my understanding looking through the Motorola Defy section, you can run newer versions of Android against an older version kernel and then make up for lost functionality with kernel modules. So stuff that requires gingerbread should still work.
[Atrix 4G General] Exador:
+1 I wish I would of waited for a dual core HTC phone, my Aria would of tied me over just fine until it's release. It really sucks coming to xda every day hoping to see news of a bootloader solution. I'd be happy with DroidX level of developer support , but we don't have anywhere near the number of cool apps and hacks they have. The Atrix is a great phone if you don't like to tinker, but it's just not for me and I can only blame myself for buying it and not returning it within 30 days. My Atrix isn't laggy either.
[Atrix 4G General] iOSlulz:
Coming from n1 I am very happy with the atrix (root + sideloading)
[Atrix 4G General] jentwistle:
I am definitely not losing faith. This phone is awesome, especially after rooting and installing greyblur.
[Atrix 4G General] plvaulter06:
I have lost faith.

Galaxy S II looks to be 10 times the phone that the Atrix is. That is where my money is going when it releases
[Atrix 4G General] lost2030:
When does it release!?!? I like the Atrix, but I have voice quality issues with it so I'm gonna return it soon and go for the Infuse and hopefully the GSII comes out before the 30 days are up.
[Atrix 4G General] LordOfTheSnatch:
I'm with Bravo on this one. Once 2nd init is ported or the bootloader is cracked, custom roms will be in full swing. Just have to be patient. Even on stock with root this out performs Captivate and Inspire 4g.

It's not without issues...my processor gets super hot at times, but it's still the best AT&T has to offer. I'll settle for an official gb update from moto.
[HD2 General] koolxx:
hi guys. i need your help. i uninstalled a skin from this link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=589899

after i installed it, i wasnt able to set any wallpaper. theres just a black background on the home tab and lockscreen. how can i fix this so i can set any wallpaper?
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
I think the black background is part of the theme. The theme probably has a over ride ion effect over your background and will not allow it to be changed.

Try soft reseting your HD2, if that does not help try uninstalling the theme, soft reset, reinstall the theme, soft reset again then see if you casn change the background.

Ha it is kind of funny I am having a similar problem but mine is with my laptop it will not allow my to set a different background, I can not even find the option to change it, and I bought it brand new 3 days ago. ARGHHHH
[HD2 General] koolxx:
hi, t-mac... i tried reinstalling then uninstalling, then turning off then on my phone. and that doesnt work at all. i realy dont want to hard set my device cuz i put in a lot of work into tweaking it. any other suggestions?
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
You shouldn't have to hard reset unless you just want to. If you uninstall the theme you should be able to change your background again, that is if you still have the theme installed not sure if you do or not. I think the issue has something to do with the theme you installed. If you don't have the theme installed and dtill can not set your background then a hard reset my be in your future. Sorry it is no other fix unless you want to spend the time to dig around in your registry to find the exact changes the theme made there and revert them.
[HD2 General] koolxx:
hi, t-mac. i finally did a hard reset. i had my phone set up perfectly except for that black stubborn background. but now, i've got my phone set up 95% set up to where it was before.

i got to thank you man for helping me. i've now learned so much about the inner workings of this phone. its really cool. and thats thanks to you. have a good one!
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jttraverse:
I have a nook that currently has the Honeycomb v4 ROM running on eMMc...and for what it is I've been pretty happy with it. However, I've hoped that fairly soon there would be a full-fledged working Honeycomb version for the Nook since Xoom is out, etc...but I'm a little concerned that it seems all Honeycomb versions and development seems to have stalled, if not died. I haven't seen anything new in a long time.

Maybe we're still waiting for the AOSP to be released, but I would like to eventually have Flash and anything else that would run by default on a full-fledged Android 3 tablet, if the genius developers would grace us all with such a ROM. In a worst case, I don't want to be orphaned with what I have now and have to give up and drop back to the latest Nook 1.2 version if I can avoid it.

So, does anyone have any news about Android 3 on the Nook---is anyone still working toward this---if so/when?

Also, I'm curious about what other ROM's may be out there that are as good as the recent 1.2 update...have Flash, etc...if any. I've looked at the 4/29 Phiremod 6.2/ CM 7.0.2 which sounds pretty slick, so I'd appreciate any comments about it and how it looks or compares to the Honeycomb version, etc. I'm up for any suggestions.

Thanks,

JTT
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] therealguppy:
Devs can't do anything with honeycomb till the Source is Released, and google has not stated when that will be
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poofyhairguy:
Its like this:

-Google hasn't released Honeycomb source, and said they won't until it is integrated with the cellphone branch (which will be a new version - Ice Cream Sandwich)

-The CM7 developers can't work on a Android OS without a source code to modify for the Nook Color

-Much work was done on CM7 (Gingerbread) to give it some of the best parts of Honeycomb- softkeys on the status bar

-Once the source for a tablet Android OS is released the large community of the Nook Color almost guarantees a port, as much work has been done to leave that option open

-We will know a better timeline after this:

http://www.google.com/events/io/2011/

-There is work on a newer SDK port:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1062626
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richdaley:
I was in the same boat so I installed Phiremod (CM7 with a cool theme) which is awesome.

The thing I originally didn't like about CM7 compared to Honeycomb was the location of the soft back button. HC made much more sense because it was designed for tablets without buttons. CM7 now includes "tablet tweaks" which is switched on by default. This tweaks move the status bar to the bottom and add good soft buttons on the left side of the bottom (by default...they can be moved around). The tweaks along with Flash support and the fact that Google announced it will be a while before HC is added to AOSP tipped the scale to CM7 for me.

Pros of Honeycomb:

New interface that is more like a PC than a phone (contrary to Steve Job's "tablets are post-PC devices" lol)

Great email client and widget

Awesome native browser

Everybody thinks you are cool because you have HC running on an eReader (women were just throwing themselves at me so my wife made me switch lol)

Pros of CM7

99.9% of everything works. Most problems with HC for the Nook were problems that HC has on other devices but they are still problems. Gingerbread is much more mature.

Bluetooth is working. People say it only works for short distances. I never wander too far from my keyboard so I am not sure.

Tablet tweaks allow most of the cool UI functionality that is included with honeycomb.

I am not sure if HC v4 includes hardware acceleration but Flash and other videos work better on CM7.

I recommend using both. Flash CM7 to your primary partition and if you want to use Honeycomb, set up dual boot and flash HC to your second partition or run HC from an SD card.

I also recommend trying the Stock 1.2 ROM. You won't be happy with it after using honeycomb and CM7 but it is worth a look because it is quite nice for somebody with no technical knowledge like my mother.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] declain:
Activity is definitely picking up on the new port. I would keep an eye on the post and I'm betting within a couple of days, it will be fairly stable and worth flashing.

SDK Honeycomb New Port
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jttraverse:
Thanks to all...I'll take the advice..

Thanks all, these were some very thought-out and helpful responses...even if I have to decide whether I want the women throwing them at me over having HC4 on my Nook, or whether I want to have my Nook do the most that it can for now

(...I just know I'll have to do a dual boot since it's all about the nook..er, or is that nookie..oh nevermind... :)

Thanks for the info on Google and the AOSP as well...

-JT
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skgtheblij:
you make having HC on your NC sound like driving a porsche... I wish it were that easy!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] LeStone08:
I'm not sure exactly where this goes, but I think it belongs here and I haven't been able to find any other threads about this issue.

It's going to seem like a WinMo issue, but I'm pretty sure it's Android related.

I have a ATT Tilt2 with a stock ROM (I think with Sense 2.5) that I recently (last week) installed FRX06 on top of an older BLAZN install that I hadn't tried in months.

Today, I shut down Android (properly) and turned the phone on to return to WinMo. On the 4 digit numeric PIN screen (I Activesync with Exchange at work and this is part of the security requirement; it's not the SIM or GSM PIN), I enter my pin and ... I get an error message that I've entered the wrong PIN and I just used 1 of 8 turns. I tried carefully to enter the PIN to make sure I didn't fat finger the button - strike 2. So, I open the keyboard to try using that, and still no dice. Now I'm worried about getting my device wiped and starting from scratch.

The reason I think this is Android related is that this has happened to me one other time. This problem was the main reason I stopped using BLAZN about 6 months ago. In the almost 2 years that I've had this phone, this hasn't happened when rebooting from WinMo back into WinMo.

Any suggestions or ideas about what's going on? I don't even want to touch my phone without having a plan of attack. My contacts are backed up (first thing I did before I installed FRX06), but would rather not have to re-install stuff if I don't have to.

By the way, until this little incident, Android had been running great - it's been a big improvement over where it was 6 months ago.

Thanks in advance for any help.

-David
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] Christiaan91:
I think you need to rename/delete your data.img.

But first you need a real fresh start so don't install FRX06 on top of BLAZN. Delete the old and download the FRX06 package from the thread
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] LeStone08:
Thanks for the reply. Those are some good suggestions in general, but doesn't address my immediate need: Is there any way to get past the PIN check now (maybe the PIN was reset to some default)? Or is there an explanation for what is going on? AS it is, there's nothing I can do with the phone if I don't get the PIN correct (can't reboot into Android).

Also, in order to get FRX06 to work, I did delete the data.img file, so that is fresh. Also, the first time a few months ago, I ran into this problem was on my original (clean) install of BLAZN. Until this problem happened, Android had been working great in most other respects.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] arrrghhh:
You're not supposed to use PIN auth in WinMo if you want to use Android.

Although, that type of PIN should work, I wouldn't use it. So if your work requires it, I'd say don't use Android.

I wish I could help more, my company uses GroupWise and only allows BB's to connect...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] rpierce99:
I don't know why PIN auth in WinMo would have anything to do with Android, and I know I never had any problems with my WinMo pin while running android. While I can't say for certain that Android wouldn't do anything to your WinMo PIN, I would put the likelyhood at .0000001%. It simply doesn't touch the built in storage. Android is run straight from the SD card, and WinMo doesn't store your PIN on the SD card, so the chance of any funny business between the two is very low. Someone who knows the ins and outs of the NAND better than I would probably tell you it is impossible for Android to write to NAND, seeing as how there was so much work that went into the NAND testing.

Long story short, it wasn't Android. Maybe someone is playing a joke on you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] LeStone08:
Normally, I wouldn't think Android would impact my winMo setup. But this has only happened to my twice and both times occured after shutting down Android and rebooting the phone.

No one else has access to my phone - so I can't blame anyone else.

I did install the trial version of Touchdown in my Android installation, but I don't think that's part of the problem (the last time it happened, I used the standard Exchange functionality of Android).

Could the policies enforced by Exchange cause my WinMo PIN to reset when I registered the new Android connectivity? When I set up Touchdown, I used the same PIN that I set for WinMO.

Thanks for the comments. Looking for any suggestions to get the phone up without getting it wiped (any default PINS that I can try?).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] arrrghhh:
These are questions for your IT dept I would think...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] webxplore:
I would agree with rpierce99. I use MS Exchange (2007) on both wm & frx06 with password policy enforced and never experienced this issue. I chose to use a 6 digit numeric pin on both OS.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] slapshot30:
I remember having this issue. Pissed me off beyond belief. Same thing happened, booted out of android, when I tried unlocking, it kept saying the password was incorrect. For some reason I can't remember what I did to fix it... I think I just did a forced hard reset (click reset button, hold send key + end key + power key all at once). I know it's not what you want to hear but hard reset might be the only/quickest fix.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] Raa_1:
If it's asking for a SIM PIN, then this isn't related to Android, and it's not a Win-Mo issue either. It's the PIN for your SIM card as it's always been - or someone's changed it on you (they need to know your old one first)

3? Wrong guesses on a PIN and you get a PUK lock. (Pin Unblock Key)

The PUK is provided to you from your mobile provider. 10 wrong goes of this and you brick your SIM permanently, and you'll need a new one.

PIN and PUK aren't supported in Android to my knowledge, and Win-Mo will only allow you to change the PIN if you knew the old one as I said. I don't know of any "hacks" that can up-and-change it.

Lastly, there's good old device "lock". I had this corrupt on my TP2 end of last year causing me a huge headache and a hard reset. I was NOT using Android at this time.

Hope that helps in some way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] slapshot30:
Nah, his first post specifies it wasn't a SIM or GSM lock. I believe he had the Winmo lock go crazy on him like me. You say you had it too but not with android... I think my battery was very low at the time, I have no idea if that has anything to do with it. Was your battery fairly low/close to dying?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] Raa_1:
Nah not at the time. But I ran a tweak program and set a setting that botched it - I think. I was never tempted to try again to find out though.

Also on a side note, just tested the latest updates today, "PIN incorrect" when trying to unlock in Android. Works in WinMo. Removing PIN on startup again until it's fixed. (bummer!)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] LeStone08:
You're right, it wasn't my SIM lock that was causing the problem. I don't remember if my battery was low or dying. I do know that the last thing I had running was the Youtube app that was having problems with buffering a video, then it started getting non-responsive, which was why I decided to shut down my phone and reboot.

I checked with our IT department and besides them trying not to support it because it's not an eye-phone, there were no known MS Exchange changes at our company that would have caused the problem. I did find out that the webmail client for Exchange now shows the clients that connected - I could see a listing for my WinMo install and a couple for my Android install (my original install from 6 months ago, and my current install - the different builds had different system names). There is a feature to request a recovery PIN there, but my HTC Sense simple PIN entry screen didn't have a recovery pin option that's needed - or I didn't see it in the last try I had to get my PIN correct. Maybe I'll play with that more if I start using WinMo again.

My phone did get wiped and so far, I haven't loaded anything back into WinMo - I've been running off my Android install (didn't reinstall - since my SD Card didn't get wiped) for the last 1.5 weeks.

I know it's not a large sample size, but the two times this has happened in the almost 2 year time period that I've had this phone occurred when booting out of Android. I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this issue, but it would be nice to have the problem diagnosed. :confused:

I'm hoping that one of the brains doing all of this cool stuff will find the root cause and show us (at least me and Slapshot) how to avoid the problem.

Thanks. :D I'm still really happy about the state of the Rhodium projects.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] highlandsun:
I've never set any type of PIN on my Android phones. What are you setting?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] Raa_1:
On any phone you can set it to "Request PIN on startup" and it will ask you for the SIM's PIN. (This is SIM dependant, I don't know if it works for CDMA).

Traditionally, it would boot up the phone fine, but won't activate the SIM until the PIN is entered, once that's entered and the SIM unlocks, it'll logon to the 3G network and work normally.

In XDAndroid, if I try to enter my PIN, it says it's incorrect (works fine in WinMo), but I did read somewhere that it wasn't supported, and it has to be left off. I don't like doing this, but no choice really!

Want to troubleshoot this issue too? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] LeStone08:
I'll take your word on the SIM PIN business, as I've never actually set my SIM pin. I wouldn't do this in general, but also especially knowing that there's a conflict between SIM pins and the XDAndroid projects.

In WinMo (I believe there's a way to do this an Android also, but not quite sure), there are two ways that I know of to set up a startup PIN on your phone (at least on my Tilt2):

1) You can go into Settings, Security, Phone Lock: here you can set up your phone to lock itself after a set amount of time. You can use either a Simple PIN or a strong alpha-numeric PIN. Whenever your phone is idle for a time period exceeding the threshold you have set, the phone will lock itself so that you have to enter your PIN to access the phone again. Again, this is not the SIM pin.

2) Some of us work at companies that use this little email package called Exchange by a company called Microsoft :o. In order to protect employee's and (mostly) company data, some of these companies will leverage security features in Exchange to mandatorily set policies on any mobile devices that want to access the corporate email system. If you want access to the system, you have to accept whatever policies the company chooses to enforce. Some of these policies include: 1) Requiring a PIN (not a SIM pin) on your device; 2) requiring a max idle time before the phone locks itself; 3) requiring a phone reset (including data wipe) after a certain number of missed passwords; 4) allowing a phone wipe/clear on demand in case of theft; etc. My company requires all of these - there are more, but I'm not familiar with all of the options.

When I boot into Windows Mobile, Exchange sees my phone as one device and sets the policies accordingly (basically the email software has to be able to receive the policies and interpret them). When I boot into XDAndroid, Exchange sees my phone as a different device and sends the same set of polices. For my original problem, I set the PIN to be the same for both instances to make like easy for my tiny little brain.

I reiterate that this is not a SIM pin issue. I want to make it clear so we can keep this thread on topic in case anyone else has some insights into the problem. I don't want it to be derailed into a SIM PIN discussion since I'm sure there are lots of threads about that. (Now, I've probably polluted the index with that term and anyone looking for that will find this instead :eek:)

I would love to know if anyone gets any insights here.

Thanks for reading.

David