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[HTC Incredible S] dejisk8er:
hi i also have an IS on the bell network as well. however my phone is unlocked and i am currently using it on rogers so im guessing i'll never get the udate. and i have no other option rather than to manually intall it. so i would also like to try this, at least to see if it will work on my device. im just wandering how to go about in doing this. if you could give me a step by step instruction, i would appreciate it. let me know if i need tools like a gold card or something as such. thank you.
[HTC Incredible S] Sightr:
All the information is in thread in the Android development section. Just look it up!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markteacher:
Received my replacement transformer the other day and thought it was OK on initial inspection, in a darkened room.

But actually, when you pump the brightness up to full, looking at a black screen (downloaded a black jpeg to test it as in the galley app the software buttons fade out so you get a true picture) it is actually no better than the one I sent back.

So my question is, using that system - black jpeg, full brightness, is there anyone out there who has no light bleed, particularly around the bottom left hand corner?

Cos if there is, it looks like this baby is going back to Comet for a second replacement, and if everyone has it, then I guess I will have to assume its a manufacturing 'feature' and just live with it.

Cheers for your help folks.

Sent from my Transformer using...... fingers.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeewaka:
Glad there is somebody know knows how to test a LCD light bleed properly.

I have the exact same issue. Maybe its part of the design.

J
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingwp1:
Check my post in the other light bleed thread. I'd be happy to explain more if you'd like: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13478882&postcount=111
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doronster195:
I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doronster195:
I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.

Has anyone noticed a problem with going from manual brightness to auto, and it not auto adjusting?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dan76:
No light bleed here.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuntdouble:
Zero light bleed for me as well.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crimton:
at a very extreme angle i can see a little near the camera. doesn't bother me, i would have never noticed
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strikethreeout:
I mean... you went through all that to find a defect? I know that we all want the perfect device but how often will the light bleed actually affect us?

I think I also have light bleed but I had to tilt the damn thing to find it and it seemed perfectly fine before reading these posts.

Does it really bother you that much that you're even willing to go through the hassle of exchanging it?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lani Kai:
I first noticed it when I booted the tablet with the lights out in the room. I don't have any issues in normal use and it doesn't bother me enough that I'd want to send it back.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberChulo:
I just got my 32GB. I didn't notice it during the daytime, but at night I do see a little towards the top. But not to the point where it bothers me.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbroon:
Got a couple of small spots along the bottom that i could live with only noticeable if you have light off and brightness at full, one of the corners has quite bad bleed, can see it on darkish screens without even turning lights off or even down.

Considering whether to return it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markteacher:
'All that' is not really all that to be honest. I downloaded a black jpeg and looked at it whilst sat here watching the telly, took about 30 seconds in all to show up a significant level of light leaking in from the bottom corner.

If you have to tilt your unit to find any light then its not going to be a problem for you. On mine it casts a glow on the bottom corner when I am sat with it on my lap in a normal living room with the table lamp on.

For me there is nothing wrong with wanting a perfect device, I am pretty sure that's what I paid for. Had it not been perfect then Comet would have it marked as 'seconds, and would have charged me quite a bit less.

As it is, it arrived direct from the factory with this defect, and as I have said before, on a £100 cheapie off eBay I would probably put up with it, but not at 400 quid.

Add to this, unless Asus receives units back to their factory with these issues pointed out they will be unaware of the problem and have no incentive to tighten up their manufacturing process.

I don't know what is going on over in the US, but I do know they are far less accepting of poor service/goods than we are in the UK, and if these problems exist in units being shipped over there they will be flying back to Asus at a great rate of knots, and this is with the Us Transformer costing CONSIDERABLY less than it does over here.

If you have a good one, I am happy for you, and slightly envious of you. I wish I did.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jake21:
On the blue boot screen or setting screen there is massive light bleeding on right and left side (about 2 inches wide). However, when there is an image on the screen it looks fine. Unfortunately I don't have a wireless connection at home so I haven't tried putting any movies or 'black' jpegs on the device for further testing; but will do so tomorrow. My hope is that when playing movies it looks fine and if so I won't worry about it. Screen has good fidelity; speakers seem decent and unit feels lighter than the acer/xoom. Also build doesn't seem that bad.

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So far only immediate reactions are: Why didn't amazon put something in the shipping box like bubble wrap and what the @!#)(* no charging light? Even my $10 cell phone has a charging light.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mamoulian666:
I asked Asus phone support. They said there should be NO light bleed. I said a couple of times that mine is very slight, from the lower left corner, and he repeated that there shouldn't be any at all and that I should get a replacement.

I'm requesting a replacement anyway as my compass is broken, hopefully I can get one into my local Comet store so I can see for myself first.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icerave:
Light bleed here as well

Just wanted to chime in and say I have it too. At first I didn't notice it because I had just got it.. but after a while I found my eye being drawn down to the edges where there was light bleeding through. Its an unwelcome distraction and this unite will no doubt be exchanged for another one.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unknown_owner:
Auto adjusting works when you turn the screen off then back on.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unknown_owner:
i feel all of you. One time I bought a car and one of the tire pressures was off by the time I got home. I took the car back to the dealer several times til they got the tire pressures right on all four tires. Took a month to get it right. The nerve of these manufacturers. :p
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tjwoo:
No, this is more like buying a new car and your car doors or windows not shutting fully.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seshmaru:
Not really, it's more like your car having leather seats, but then you realise some of the stitching wasn't done right.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadoc:
As I said in another thread. The screen is held in by the rubber gasket which as some day in it. If you apple pressure to the bezel area you can see the bleeding get more or less depending on where and how haard you press. I think it's a design flaw probably cheaper than how samsung or apple does their screens. Even my NOOKcolor has a small amount of bleed.

I say either accept items wait for the different tablet to come out..

All the Transfomer models will suffer this if you look.

But to find it you need to have a dark screen with nothing bright on it with brightness above lowest and be in the dark room. Even then it is at the edge only.

So I say juslive with it..
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tjwoo:
iPad2s were also notorious for having lightbleeds

GIS ipad2 light bleed
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSewerPickle:
Uh, extremely jealous of the fact that you live in Robin Hood's home town. But not jealous of that very obvious light bleed on the bottom left, middle and even some on the bottom right.

I would send it back until you get an acceptable one or wait until Asus irons out the manufactoring issues / shortages / whatever they want to call it (which very well may be why folks are experiencing some quality issues on some of the Transformers)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redmongoose:
Yes I can.

No lightbleed here.....Sorry :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markteacher:
I hate you, in a caring community way of course :-)

Just spoke to comet, as this is now an 'in store ' product they say I should be able to walk into my nearest branch with my Internet invoice and swap it there and then - if there is any stock of course.

If there isn't, then they can transfer me one from another branch.

Will give it a go on my way home from work. Might pop into pcworld next door and take a look at the new acer while I'm there.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadoc:
Look harder and you will find it. It is there because of how the screen is put in with the rubber gasket.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ELTinos:
With the black-image-full-brightness test I can't see any lightbleed...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadoc:
Well you have an exception then. You looking in a pitch black room?

Even my expensive HDTV in dark room is not pure black though the bleed is even.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rpmbnsf:
I wonder if the people that have no light bleed, have they just received them? In other words has Asus already fixed this issue on newer units now being shipped?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deymayor:
mine has but it's so negligible that even in a very specific situation where i can actually see it, it doesn't bother me. i mean, who goes is a pitch balck room, turn the brightness to full and look at a black jpg?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pside15:
I noticed some light bleed last night while watching a movie. It isn't really bad but I did email ASUS about exchanging it.

Does anyone know if they will want me to send this one back first? I would rather they send a replacement with a return label for me to send it back with but I'm probably going to be of of luck on that.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rothnic:
Obviously that isn't the use case, it is just a common method to detect it. Mine happens to be at the bottom where the black HC bar makes it show. If people had it on any of the other sides you may overlook it until you run into a specific case. I can image watching any video with cropping at the top or bottom would make it prominent and annoying if you didn't see it before.

Sure people can live with it, but the quality control issues can be aggravating. Who wants to purchase a device, which isn't necessarily *that* cheap, that has quality issues that will nag you? You paid for a device that shouldn't have the bleeding, so why settle for one that does have it?

I'm sitting on mine and enjoying it until the stock issues get better.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DoManOfFuture:
Mine was obvious, right from the boot screen, I could see bleeding, and it was annoying, especially in youtube videos and games. I've since returned it, but sadly am no back to the waiting game for them to come in stock.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mhotep06:
I don't have any light bleed.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jake21:
Using the black.jpg test; I definitely have a chunk of light bleed on the top left (maybe 1.5 inches to 2 inch curve into the screen) at 50% brightness in a dark room.

In a normal light room (office) at 75 to 85% it is barely notice able.I think I can live with it; I've seen worse though I would not rate this good; maybe somewhere between fair and poor (closer to fair).

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I think I can live with it; though obviously I would prefer better.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Palinn:
I have light bleed along the bottom of the screen which will be annoying when watching movies with black bars. I don't notice it when using full screen colorful apps but with brightness at 50%ish I can see it on my home screen when using dark wallpaper.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CalvinH:
When I first read this post I thought... Ok, another one stress-testing his tablet to make it sweet. I thought you were putting to much effort into finding defects...

Until I saw the youtube video. It shows pretty much. I didn't think it would be so noticeable. Sorry for it :( .

I really hope you can exchange it for a good one as soon as possible.

Regards.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markteacher:
Called into Comet UK today and they will have another for me on Saturday, gonna call it my Asus Threee Transformer.

No apologies necessary, the contrast on the video does make it look a little worse than it is, but I hoped it would clearly show points where light was coming in.

Lets try number 3 :-)

Had a play with the Acer tablet in PCWorld this afternoon just in case this issue persists, its pretty smooth, but damn its heavy!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Are you in London? The Comet sales person arranged a home delivery for me for Saturday for My TF101-3 as there were no stores nearby with stock, but ideally I'd like to try in-store in case they let me see more than one.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ELTinos:
Not in a pitch black room, but close enough I guess. Now I'm starting to doubt my judgement. Just to be on the same page, we are looking for lightbleed like http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/phorenzikstu/080420092146.jpg right?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hasodi:
I got 2 from Walmart and no lightbleeds here.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Android-hotness:
Same here, no bleeding 4 me.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Yep, although I'd gladly accept that level of diffuse bleed (it isn't a transformer, is it?). Most people who have it are seeing areas of much more pronounced bleed, albeit generally smaller in size than the pic you posted.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbeelzebub:
Hmmmm. I'm considering going and buying one today, but the lightbleed is scaring me. I went through 4 iPad 2s and finally got my money back. I do not want to go through that again. Perhaps I'll continue waiting for the Samsung.

Errrr, but my local store in SoCal has 32gb Transformers in stock now.... Errrrr.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ELTinos:
I believe the pic is of a samsung monitor, but it does depict the problem in general? But my conclusion remains that I do have no lightbleed. Mine is from Best Buy from a week ago btw.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] senjeng:
I got mine yesterday from Walmart/FedEx, and it has a light bleed in the lower left corner. I noticed this regularly because I tend to read books with the background set to black and type set to white, seems easier on my eyes. I don't have to go into any special light conditions to see the light bleed, when I am reading, I see it pretty plainly.

If I use the in-Kindle brightness controls to take Kindle's brightness down as low as it will go, the bleed *almost* but not quite, becomes unnoticeable. Of course, this has the effect of making my white letters much less bright as well...not sure if I'm going to try to replace it or not.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jake21:
Man that looks perfect next to mine. I should take a picture - I'm talking about close to 2 solid inch radius of distinctive bleed. Oh well. That's life. Maybe I should contact Amazon and see what they say ?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadoc:
I have a lot of bleed too. Not sure what do as I have 14 days to return it but there is no stock anywhere.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acomiskey:
Just unboxed mine and have bleed on bottom and right side.

Wouldnt bother me so much but its in the notification bar on bottom so its always visible. Should i return it?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morbiddevil82:
I wonder this too.. noticed some light bleed one mine (lower left corner).. I'm contemplating returning it and hoping to get another, but for some reason it doesn't completely bother me right now.. but if asus will do the advanced replacement then ill gladly return it until I am 100% satisfied.. but seeing how it was hell getting this one.. I dunno lol
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dec3ption:
You could just hold on to it until the stock situation calms down. If in a month it stills bothers you, send it back to ASUS... this is what ill probably do because my bleed isn't awful, but its definitely noticeable in a few spots.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spuniun:
I was one of the dummies that had multiple orders in with various vendors and they all fulfilled the orders simultaneously, So I'm currently using my newegg pad and it has clear bleed on the bottom and bottom-right corner. I just opened the BJs unit and only powered it on still in packaging and there is obvious bleed on bottom and right side. Tomorrow my PC Richards order is available for in-store pickup and I'm hoping third is a charm. I was planning on making my extras available to the .us availability thread but now it seems I need to return at least 2 of them. But me being 0 for 2 makes me wonder if those reporting no bleed just don't know what they're looking for and this is a manufacturing "feature" afterall.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sackofnoise:
Hi, just wondering, what is the asus warranty in north america concerning this, will they ask you to pay shipping (i got 30 days from ncix to rma the product but like you said, i should wait for the supply to come...) so does asus just send you a shipping label? thanks;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Just a quick warning to those thinking of returning - It is a gamble. The unit I received in exchange is far worse in terms of light bleed and had a huge amount of stuck sub-pixels, and now makes my original tablet look -comparatively- absolutely perfect. I wish I could have my first one back.... so be careful what you wish for!

I have one coming tomorrow, but I suspect it'll be the same :(
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The-Nazgul:
Got some lightbleed but doesnt bother me too much. Will not exchange it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spuniun:
Just checked the third pad I got and it has the worst bleed of the 3.

I'm now convinced that this is more common than having no bleed at all.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] finalhit:
just got mine. checked for lightbleed, and it's pretty prevalent bottom left going around counter clockwise to to top-right.

i always thought i was obsessive, but i don't seem to care. I feel proud of myself.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllTheWay:
Same goes for me

I just noticed the light bleed as well with my new Transformer. I also purchased a Acer Iconia and now I'm starting to think it was a better buy. There is absolutely 0 screen bleed on that. I was really hoping that the IPS screen would be the decision for me to keep the Transformer over the Acer but now it appears that the Acer might be the device that I am going to keep.

Mine is not as bad as the ones on the video but it's definitely not something that OK with. $400 for a tablet with light bleed is not acceptable for me. I would have expected this from a real low end android tablet.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neotekz:
I have light bleed similiar to the one in the video. For those that say they have no light bleed watch the YouTube video and then test it. I didn't notice any light bleed until I looked at a black pic with the brightness up in a dark room.

Doesn't bother me very much right now but maybe in 6 to 8 months when they get this issue resolved or my battery is starting to lose capacity and there's a few scratches on it I will exchange it.

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
I think it is a common issue too. I received a third one today and it still has bleed. Not as bad as the last one but on a par with the first.

Alas it has 8 stuck pixels and the dreaded screen gap so dust etc can get inside.....

On the plus side the speakers are the same volume and if I press the back of the tablet I don't cause the screen to 'ripple'.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freonix:
Brought a unit at Singapore and found out it was bleeding at uneven and random places. Exchange for another unit but found it was much worst than the 1st one. Got a full refund instead.

I'm convince that this is a better tablet than iPad2 after having to own for a day, but gotta hold until they sort this out. The pedantic me screams for perfection.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hamst0r:
Mine is allright, brought it for a few days on amazon uk!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markteacher:
I shall be picking up Transformer number 3 from comet on my way home from work tonight, if it has the same issues I am seriously thinking of getting a refund and going for the acer iconia.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Let us know how it goes Mark. My number three has lightbleed, but probably less than the others and I could probably live with it, but the addition of 8 stuck pixels and the glass-gap issue on the left hand side makes me wonder whether to call it quits too. However, I have the keyboard dock arriving this week so might just stick with it. I may take a look at the Acer just out of interest though.....
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] checkbox111:
Maybe Asus never tested the device under such 'fake' conditions? who in their right mind is going to take their Transformer into a darkened room and turn it on? or download a black jpg then turn brightness up to full and purposely look for errors :confused:

I mean why would anyone want to do it :rolleyes:

FFS get a life :(
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markteacher:
Or maybe asus never tested them at all, because that way would seem to be the obvious way to test for light bleed and badly fitted screens.

Watch a lettebox video in a darkened room and light spills all over the areas which are supposed to be black.

Having said that, it's totally irrelevant, excuse me if I expected a 400 quid product to ship with no defects, how dare I.

Your signature suggests you are in the USA, if I had paid what you guys are paying over there I would probably be a bit more inclined to accept sub standard, but I didn't, I paid considerably more.

Alternatively pe rhaps I'd just better go off and get a life FFS!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seshmaru:
I would suggest so since every manufacturer deals with lightbleed, no lightbleed at all is very rare for screens of any significant size.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
day 1, no light bleed. day 5 bleed on the right corner is the worst. plus housing separation on left & right corners. build quality is just 2 steps higher than archos.