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[HTC EVO 3D] vinterchaos:
Yes, @Gamercore from phandroid got this text I believe
[HTC EVO 3D] ajs421:
All I see is GS2 getting beat in Linpack, the only 1:1 test you can do between the 2 superphones. You can't do a 1:1 test on Quadrant, because HTC Sensation has 17% more pixels. Of COURSE the SGS2 will put out higher frames during that test, it has a lower resolution.
[HTC EVO 3D] ttieder:
Any new news on a announcement
[HTC EVO 3D] toxicfumes22:
I have not heard anything. Keep the heat on HTC as this is the first time that it is this strong. I don't think they realized how many people mod a phone. I know I was surprised as hell that day. Unless people told their friends and family to post like hell (if so then hell yeah!).
[HTC EVO 3D] killakarl:
Nothing at the Google wallet event.................
[HTC EVO 3D] WeatherTech:
Getting kind of frustrated with Sprint now. The least they could do is give us a little more to work with. No official statements and only rumors to run on is getting old - especially when they haven't done anything to deny rumors about June 4th.
[HTC EVO 3D] ttieder:
Just got a text from sprint saying meet the new Evo 3d but nothing on a release date
[HTC EVO 3D] Rydah:
yea, i got that yesterday... same thing.
[HTC EVO 3D] killakarl:
Hey Sprint meet my nutsack!!!!!, and give us a date!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] ttieder:
That's pretty funny lol
[HTC EVO 3D] WeatherTech:
Posted this on the Sprint Facebook page...not that it will help lol
[HTC EVO 3D] lbhocky19:
i had my mom post about her and the rest of my family getting incredibles because of me. she started the "you lock we walk" phrase that's now everywhere. she is demanding an internet parade if we convince them to unlock
[HTC EVO 3D] Gordon Ramsay:
Best...Post...Ever...
[HTC EVO 3D] ldominguez1986:
I am really getting sick of waiting to hear anything about whats going on. The balls on sprint to take pre-orders without giving us any shred of info. How can they just take our money and leave us with ****. really really annoyed. Sorry for ranting but I just tired of clicking this link to see if any new info has come out.
[HTC EVO 3D] WeatherTech:
Post on their Facebook wall and voice your opinions!
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
Which is precisely why it's not a publicized preorder. Because people get their panties in a wad about the release date. So by all means complain. Next time around Sprint won't even bother with a ' private' preorder and you can wait on your preorder until the release date is set.
[HTC EVO 3D] Johnabis:
I was thinking the same thing...

Anyways I noticed a advertisement for the evo 3d on phonearena so between that and the emails we are getting I have a feeling something will be announced sometime with in the next couple days..
[HTC EVO 3D] ldominguez1986:
does anyone know if that shadow gun game would be able to be playd on the evo3d. It says it's for the tegra 2 and ios but would it be possible to play on evo?
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I understand where you're coming from, but I also understand where that other poster is coming from.

As a paying customer, you have every right to demand info on the product you have paid for and not yet received.

Yes, complaining might make Sprint not even take preorders next time. But then there will be people jumping ship when Verizon announces their hot new phone and Sprint hasn't announced anything. So Sprint will likely still have a preorder next time.

It should never be a situation where the paying customer feels like he has to just shut up and be grateful that Sprint is even accepting his money. Sprint is still required to actually earn our business. And accepting money for preorders with absolutely no information on price or release date is not what I would consider going the extra mile to earn our business. Maybe at first it's okay. But they should be required to update the customers with a ball park price and release date. Especially with so many rumors flying about the price and release date.
[HTC EVO 3D] ldominguez1986:
Thanks for seeing both sides of the point. I love how here on xda people are just quick to make you feel dumb for what you post. At the same time everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I can't get mad over it. Again, though thanks for see my point.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Ahhhh, the folly of entitlement in its finest form.
[HTC EVO 3D] DeathBySnuggles:
I just got back from my local Radio Shack where I preordered my phone and a Sprint rep happened to be there. First of all, the store manager there has not seen any of the Radio Shack flyers that have been flying around other than online. I asked the rep about the release date. He said he had no idea for certain but his sources told him around the 24th of June. I said that's disappointing since the rumor has been the 4th or 5th and that's what we're hoping for but he says that if it were that soon, the reps would have known by now. He said Sprint will make a big announcement when the release date is ready. I also asked him if he and Sprint were aware of what was happening on HTC's facebook page and other outlets. He said, "you mean about the bootloaders? Yeah, we know." He then gave me some rhetoric about it might be the carriers request because when people hack their phones they can install things that suck up bandwidth. I said yeah, but for example the Sirius XM app by default blocks broadcast over 3g and 4g, but if you call customer service and get your MSL, you can easily remove the proxy and it will work over mobile data. No rooting required. I got a blank stare at that one.

Anyway, don't shoot the messenger, this is just what ONE rep told me. I hope he's wrong.
[HTC EVO 3D] rrsweet:
Because if I use 3/4 of the bloatware they put on my phone I wont suck up bandwidth? Alright. can't wait to test that with the 3D block buster app.

Just say we don't want you using tether, and other crap we could charge you more for that you are actually already paying for. oh and we just don't want you rooting anyways.

Be honest about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] toxicfumes22:
No one takes me serial. Im super serial when I say it makes most sense that its after June 23rd. If sprint is serial about the transfer rebate expiring then it makes most sense it will be after that date. Im super serial guys.

Also be aware of ManBearPig.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
What????

Look man, you may be fine just handing over money with absolutely nothing in return. But in this free market economy we live in, the company is the one who has to earn your business. You are not at their mercy, begging them to take your money.

It's not "the folly of entitlement in its finest form" to expect a company to earn your business.

If Sprint doesn't want to release any info to customers who have paid for a product but haven't received it, then you are well within your rights as a consumer to voice your concerns/frustrations with Sprint.

And if Sprint gets offended by this and degrades their service as some sort of future retaliation, then you are free to drop them and go to one of their competitors.

That is what we enjoy in a free market, and it is by no means "the folly of entitlement in its finest form."
[HTC EVO 3D] Philosophy757:
I'm also tired of waiting for a release date. I figured I'll just stop worrying about it and they will give it to use when they do. We can't really do anything about it anyway. Maybe something will be announced after the holiday.
[HTC EVO 3D] DeathBySnuggles:
I agree. Luckily with all the great ports recently, there's enough to keep me occupied.
[HTC EVO 3D] ldominguez1986:
Anything I have seen from you lately here on xda is nothing but trying to pick fights or contradict people all the time. Give it a rest man, what makes you all high and mighty.
[HTC EVO 3D] Chevyboxer:
So I need a new phone in the worst way(still using a hero). If it really does come out on the 24th I can't wait that long. I wonder if I can go buy a Nexus S and then make an even exchange when the 3d comes out.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
You act like Sprint owes you something just because you preordered a device. Why would you think that is the case? If you made a preorder than it was your decision to put money down with no release date known. By no means do they owe us an announcement. Perhaps there are problems with production and Sprint can't commit to a release date... Whatever the hold up is, they said the phone would be released this summer, deal with it.

Just to be clear, I do agree that companies need to earn our business. But, this sense that Sprint owes us an announcement or has wronged us by not announcing the release date is a load of garbage.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Well, seeing as how I am the most educated person on this forum and can walk on water I figure I can say whatever I want. Thanks for following my post, there will be more to come.
[HTC EVO 3D] ldominguez1986:
Your avatar suits your attitude and personality well.

tapa tapa tapa

"2.5 New Members: Treat new members the way you would have liked to have been treated when you were a new member. Provide the new members with guidance, advice and instruction always with respect and courtesy." taken from your signature. why don't you practice what you preach.
[HTC EVO 3D] rrsweet:
speak for yourself I have a MOMENT. Odd Moment... that's about how long one was able to own that phone before it was outdated and dropped by sprint and Samsung.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
He is my role model. I'm not quite that rich though...
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
And he is the one who who said nobody should be acting like a ****, lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
What makes me think they owe us something? Uh, because they are selling a product. It's a simple concept- I give them money, they provide the product.

If they fail to provide the product, then they absolutely owe an explanation, at the very least.

The notion that Sprint doesn't owe anybody anything, even though they took our money on the condition that they would provide a product, is pure garbage.

Yes, we all understood that they didn't have a realease date or price when we made the preorder. But we were also told we would be provided that info soon. And now that there are rumors and leaks all over the place, it is absolutely time for Sprint to release some info to its paying customers. At the very least, they can either confirm or deny some of these rumors. There are Sprint agents spreading rumors. The least they can do is tell us, "We don't have a release date yet, but we are targeting this particular weekend..." Or "We don't have a price yet, but we are targeting this ballpark figure..."

And expecting Sprint to meet the bare minimum and give us an update, is well within our rights as a paying customer.
[HTC EVO 3D] ajs421:
there's ads starting to pop up on all sorts of sites I've noticed today regarding the EVO 3D, so word will break soon enough.

let's not forget that Apple doesn't even acknowledge products exist until a week before they launch. there's a press conference with the official reveal, and then FCC approval magically appears that same day. this strategy isn't unheard of...
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
We're just not going to agree on this and there is no sense in continuing to argue about it. I can see where you are coming from, I just don't agree.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
They also don't take preorders and hold your money with no hint of when you will get your product or how much more it will cost you.
[HTC EVO 3D] ajs421:
Pre-ordering is an extra service to the customer that they don't have to provide.

They can let you wait in line like all the suckers for apple products too.

Don't cry about getting a free spot in line just because they haven't made the announcement yet. No one's holding a gun to your head.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Well perhaps you'd like to buy some things form me then? I will sell you whatever you want. Private island in the Caribbean? Give me a $5000 non refundable deposit, and I will make sure you get it on the day it is released.

And don't you dare ask what the total cost will be, or when you can actually take possession of it.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
What if HTC is trying to emulate Apple so hard that they want to just spring the release on us at the very last second?

Granted that with Apple there is a lot of 'unofficial' info that usually ends up being dead on and everybody trusts the entire time...but then again, maybe we already have that and don't know it...hindsight and all.

Surprise releases, encrypting everything in sight, Sense(c)(tm)(R) UI, etc...
[HTC EVO 3D] ajs421:
Apples to Oranges. Stop trolling and go back to 4chan.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
True, they didn't have to hold a preorder or even announce the phone. Then we would have all went to Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile and bought phones a long time ago.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
This is one of the worst analogies I've ever seen. LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
It's not apples to oranges. We paid for a product hat we haven't received. And some fools are acting like we're the bad guys for wondering when we will receive it.
[HTC EVO 3D] ajs421:
No, you got exactly what you paid for: the chance to get the product when you want without having to wait in line or take time away from work or other activities. All they ask is to hold $50 of the $200 you have to pay anyway.

What about this don't you understand?
[HTC EVO 3D] wjason:
I am thinking about doing that as well. My hero has been great, but I am jonesin' for some updated hardware.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Maybe that is what YOU paid for, but the rest of us were NOT told it would be $200. We were told we would find out the price and release date "soon."

Well it is time for that promised update. The least they can do is give us a ball park release date and price.
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
I'm seriously confused (and no I'm not trolling I just honestly don't understand) by the point of view that Sprint owes anyone a release date simply because you've put your name on a list and possibly paid 50.00 or so to hold a phone.

Had sprint announced a release date and THEN said, 'Now taking pre-orders'..then was late on the release and didn't provide information...then I could understand being angry.

What Sprint has done is to QUIETLY (read: non-publicized) take pre-orders for the phone and specifically stated they didn't have a release date.

This isn't an advertised pre-order. It's specifically so that people like us, typically bleeding edge folks, can get in BEFORE the masses of people. To the best of my knowledge, not ONE person was told, 'We're taking your deposit for the Evo3D. We'll be announcing a release date on Friday May 27th'. People are being told, 'We don't have a release date, nor any idea when we will have, but you can pre-order it anyhow if you like.'.

How does that warrant a demand for information? You HAVE the information. 'We don't know when it's being released, or when we'll be providing information.'

That's what's the other poster meant by 'entitlement'. It seems that too many people feel that just because they plunk down some money for something it gives them a say in how the company is run. (Not saying YOU feel that way, but it DOES happen far too often nowadays.)

Again: if you were told a specific release date when you pre-ordered and that date has passed, or if you were told a specific date by which information on the release would be given and that date has passed...THEN you have the right to be angry about not receiving information. If neither of those conditions are true, then you're being impatient and demanding...which is what I meant initially when responding to the other poster.

Bottom line here: You CHOSE to put down a deposit on a phone without knowing anything about it (as did I)...you weren't forced to do it. Sprint doesn't owe you anything more than you've already been told, in my honest opinion.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I was told (and I'm sure this is no different than what anyone else was told) that they didn't know the release date, nor the price, at that time. But by preordering I would get it on launch day for sure, and they would be announcing the launch date and price "soon."

In my mind, "soon" is about right now. Especially since we have all these rumors, largely being spread by Sprint reps.

They don't have a license to hold our money indefinitely without an explanation.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Two things:

1) the term "soon" is up for interpretation. Just because you think it should be "right about now" doesn't mean its time for Sprint.

2) Where did you pre-order?
[HTC EVO 3D] zatos:
Alright, let's get back to speculation and completely unsubstantiated rumors! ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
1: The term "soon" is absolutely up for interpretation. It's about time Sprint defined it for us.

2: A Sprint corporate store.
[HTC EVO 3D] Chevyboxer:
I figure if they are really trying to keep it a secret we won't find out till a couple days before, unless they decide to make an announcement. One thing is they keep saying Summer, and unless I am mistaken summer doesn't start till June 21st. This would give credence to the June 24th rumors.
[HTC EVO 3D] WeatherTech:
I just spoke to a Sprint rep on the phone who told me that the reason they have not released a date for launch yet is that the "engineers are updating a lot of the content on the phone" I guess that is up for interpretation, however.
[HTC EVO 3D] WeatherTech:
Meteorological summer begins on June 1st :D

Astronomical summer begins around June 21st

-Maybe we will get lucky and they will be weather enthusiasts.
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
'Soon' means 'not now'. Or, frankly, whatever they want it to mean.

And you're under another misconception: They're not holding your money indefinitely without and explanation. You're free to go in any time and cancel your pre-order and get a refund on your deposit. You're right, they can't legally charge you for nothing.

I understand your feelings. I'm freaking out waiting for a release date too. But I'm practical about it, and I'm certainly not demanding Sprint provide information that they probably don't have in the first place.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Did you get a gift card when you preordered at Sprint?
[HTC EVO 3D] ldominguez1986:
On goodandevo they are saying maybe tomorrow we will see something because of all the emails going out. Let's see what happens.
[HTC EVO 3D] lmbebo:
I'm very curious about release date now.

I'm switching from ATT and an iphone 4. I was debating between Evo 3D and Nexus S. I was leaning heavily towards the Evo because I like the sense UI. But had hesitations because of the locked bootloader.

Now I see that amazon has the nexus s on sale for $50. It may be too good of a deal to pass up.

Just looking for any input.

Is it worth it to get the phone and try it out? I guess I could always resale it on ebay or craigslist afterwards. I've tried CM7 rom out of a cliq XT (way underpowered).
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Evo4G was also "coming this summer" and released on the 4th.

My local Radioshack says it's the 5th because stock is guaranteed to be there on the 4th. My local Sprint buddy says June 4th for the same reason. Unlocked bootloader or not, if it comes out WEEKS after the 3rd/4th/5th then fnck it. I'll just wait until the SGS2 or probably the dual core Nexus2 or S2 or whatever they end up calling it....it's not like my Evo is slowing me down--it still screams, I just prefer to be on the cutting edge...and the Evo3D won't be cutting edge for long, so if the Evo3D's cutting edge only lasts for a week or two...screw it...I'll wait another week or two or a month or so for the next best thing. I'm furious with HTC now anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] lkctd8:
We all placed our pre orders with no knowledge of anything from sprint. Sure there are plenty of guesses of what will be happening across the web, but none of those are from sprint. If we wanted give them our money once they released something official then that is also our choice. But its kind of hard to make a complaint that sprint took money and then didnt give any info when we knew upfront that there was no official info to give. That being said, sure I want to know when I will be getting my device, but I based my decision on rumors from the web and know that so all I can do is wait and be hopeful.
[HTC EVO 3D] ajs421:
They also said 'Summer' last year for the EVO 4G and it came out on June 4th!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
This would be awesome!
[HTC EVO 3D] Chevyboxer:
Well clearly Sprint employees are weather buffs.
[HTC EVO 3D] WeatherTech:
I can dream right? :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
Ofcourse

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[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Yes.

No, that is not 100% accurate. We placed our preorders with very little info from Sprint (I was actually told to expect it in June but they didn't know the exact date) and we were told that we would be updated soon with a release date and price. It is not absurd to actually expect them to update is with a "the rumors on the internet are false. Expect it in July." Or whatever ball park info they can give us.

And yes, plenty of the rumors on the net are from Sprint. Are you kidding me? Plenty of Sprint reps are throwing crap out there. As I type this, I just called my local Sprint store and got told they are expecting it in June. I have seen countless posts from Sprint reps all over the internet with their own rumors, guesses, and so on.

The least Sprint could and should do is give us an official ball park range. They changed "Summer" to "Coming Soon" yesterday. Now it needs to be "Coming Late June" or whatever. And it wouldn't hurt to include a price either. I'm sure Sprint knows how much they are going to charge for it at this point.
[HTC EVO 3D] WeatherTech:
Who thinks we see an announcement tomorrow?
[HTC EVO 3D] JakedGr8:
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/05/h...ont-page-of-next-weekends-radio-shack-ad.html

^ Wait, if that is next weekends ad, and they're still saying "Preorder today" doesnt that mean that while that ad is running, it's still asking people to preorder... not buy... ?

~ Jake
[HTC EVO 3D] ldominguez1986:
I'm faithful
[HTC EVO 3D] WeatherTech:
Now I should ask who thinks we don't see one until late June and see how many people say yes to that one lol :confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] ldominguez1986:
New update, goodandevo has the ad that will be in this Sundays paper for radioshack
[HTC EVO 3D] killakarl:
Thank the Fing lord!!!! Finally some info.
[HTC EVO 3D] ldominguez1986:
I think I'm wrong it's going to be in next weeks paper
[HTC EVO 3D] WeatherTech:
That would not be encouraging news. Anything from Best Buy anyone?
[HTC EVO 3D] killakarl:
Booooooo! For making me happy. J/k.
[HTC EVO 3D] lkctd8:
I agree with what you are saying and would love to see something official, but the people you talk to at sprint or any company for that matter are just like us. I worked for sprint for 4 years so I know the kind of bs that is thrown around to customers, which is exactly what we read on the web. Not that I agree with it, but like everyone says, take what they say with a grain of salt and if its not on paper there isnt much to argue. Again, not that I like that and I completely agree with how you are feeling, but working for the cell phone company that I work for now its still the same. Until we get an email saying whats going on, we know what everyone else knows. And by the time that email has been sent, its already been posted up on forums like these lol
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I'm for early June. I feel pretty confidant. My sources are very confidant about the stock arrival, though they have 0 confidence in sale date. Unless something major has change, on the national level, with the Evo3D I expect to be playing with one no later than June 5th.

And if not I'll just save that money for the dual core nexus or SGS2....which I will do anyway if this thing isn't s-off in 30 days. Preferably with some official help from HTC, but I won't hold out too much for that.
[HTC EVO 3D] srb7215:
This is going to be a long week. Unless Sprint comes out with a date, I am going to be wasting a good portion of my time reading forums to learn nothing.