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[Wildfire General] al-ien4:
e-mail reply

Reply: From	HTC eu-no-reply@htc.com

"Thank you for contacting HTC.

In regards to your enquiry, you can kindly recieve the FOTA upgrade to the 2.2 android(Froyo) version, simply by going to menu > settings > about phone > system software updates > check now.

The maximum version that the wildfire phone can get upgraded to in version 2.2

We do not force customers to buy new phones Sir, as we do provide upgrades and updates for the phones as soon as possible.

Unfortunately Sir we cannot provide you with information about an unlocked bootloader to install custom roms,as this is an illegal process ,and will affect the warranty of the phone

."
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
Illegal? http://www.androidphonegeek.com/2010/07/rooting-your-phone-now-100-legal
[Wildfire General] al-ien4:
This is simply a response from htc support a question. Do not expect it to be a clever answer. These things are not decided by people who meet these emails. A people who have to answer them do not care about it. Because they have a plan of work that followed, but it is quite clear that it does not include S = off for Wildfire. We just do traffic in the forum of XDA. Nothing more we can do with HTC at the official way!

Fingers crossed! - guys with big brains to do something, because only they can help us now. No other ...

Do not know English very well written - sorry
[Wildfire General] bx19:
Actually, even if it is legal, their intentions will not support it. If we can see those "100% legal" in official websites of HTC or SE etc, we can confirm that it is legal.

The point is, we the geeks want it, need it, expect it, hope it to be legal.

How about google delaying the release of honeycomb source code. They intend to restrict the honeycomb to those devices which are manufactured with it.

And if people gets aware of locked botloaders, their market will be affected. Then they will manufacture the devices with root options. But people becoming aware never happens.....

I agree that these things are not decided by people who meet these emails, since all of us got the same replies.

And where are these guys with big brains. Im sure wildfire users with big brains are previously aware of not making the froyo ota update. In that case they will have a pre-rooted device and will not work on the rooting process..

And no updates of unrevoked regarding wildfire. Not sure whether they got the device, working, or not... Who else then......... Is it going to be like this forever.
[Wildfire General] al-ien4:
Business with HTC clip going strong since the update came out for Wildfire 2.2 Who manufactures these devices? If you are so s = off for people using this device will be less customers. Currently the only way is HTC clip - of which make any money, unlike unrevoked, which would make it more for glory than for money. Therefore I think that when willing to root through HTC clip fall, will appear and exploit for Wildfire. A first for low-end phones will also appear on the market in order to draw more money to compensate for the low price.

Another variant of the HTC negligence is simply silly to have received the update to 2.2 and now do not care (or shame them to fix the "error")

Anyway, can not do nothing but constantly picking and pray to the guys with "big brains" to say something about it. And if there is no way for S = off (or are not involved because they are arrogant and they like thousands of people to pray them every day for something) - at least to say it until the price of the phone is relatively good for sale yet ...

I just think everything is money and edification.

Do not know English very well written - sorry
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
Would it be possible to merge this with my campaign

Sent from some atoms
[Wildfire General] linuxcrash:
From my side it would even be a good thing to have all campaigns merged together and make it sticky so it stays at the top of the general board.

Any XDA-Board admin volunteer??

Thanks in advance
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
+1 on that
[Wildfire General] bx19:
Additional effect .....

Im expecting this is the right time to even go with this additional email campaign process. This should definitely give some boost now.

What do everyone think.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] 0TheRain0:
I just wanted to kick off a discussion, and possibly start the ball rolling for a project to port some development tools to honeycomb.

Ideally it would be cool to be able to set up a whole Android development environment that runs on the tablet itself. If the project is just too massive in scope, I'd settle for porting GNU GCC and some native development tools. I'm imagining either way it will only be possible to run these things on a rooted device.

Another project I'm interested in is a way to run apps that are not optimized for tablet, blown up to full screen. The way they run right now, if you put the proper flags in AndroidManifest.xml to say that you don't support high dpi or tablet- the UI shows up in a small section of the screen and looks pretty bad. Not as bad as an app that is not designed to blow up to tablet size and is missing the tags though. I'm thinking this will require honeycomb sources though, which are not yet available- but still i'm very interested in working on such a project and would like to hear anyone else's ideas about it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bedoig:
It would be awesome to do some Android development directly on the Transformer. Subscribing for updates.

On my Nook Color running CM7 there is an option to "Disable Compatibility Mode" which blows apps up to full screen. I think it's a standard Android function but it's usually hidden. Might be available in Spare Parts or something. I'll check when I get a chance.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] elnoxvie:
I think it might be possible since it is java based. I think someone already got the java compiler working.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] 0TheRain0:
Nice, your saying this prompted me to search for "android java compiler ported to android" and I found this project, which looks to be very far along. http://code.google.com/p/java-ide-droid/

I haven't installed it yet, but it seems very promising.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] 0TheRain0:
Eeek, well- at least a lot of the important tools are already ported and working. The UI is pretty bad as it is though. Seems like some good work to start with.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] biggiephat:
I was just thinking about this today. With the dock it would be great to get write some code on this and just have a compiler to make sure everything is syntactically correct maybe with some mavin support to merge some code.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ViViDboarder:
I'd settle for a VI like IDE that would allow you to just browse a remote computer and do the editing that way...

Basically have it run over SSH. You can view the contents of a dir on the remote computer, edit the file, save/upload it back, then execute a command to have the remote computer do the compiling and then push the APK back to the device.

SSH is already ported. I feel like that's pretty much all you really NEED asides from the java front end for the IDE.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Other advantages are that you could develop for ANY platform with this as long as your remote computer was set up to compile it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] 0TheRain0:
That's an interesting thought. Personally I kind of want to be able to build completely on the transformer itself. But if creating a good IDE/Project editor is a major focus of this project it certainly wouldn't be difficult to add the ability to execute some arbitrary command/call in to a script that would allow you to do a remote build on your other system and easily retrieve the result.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] elnoxvie:
But i guess that defeats the purpose. his idea is probably to do a direct compiling from the Transformer and i think it's possible, provided we have the compiler ready. Let me know, if you are interested, i can help with the IDE and UI coding. Maybe .. we can code a VI functionality in. and that would be straight awesome. ^^
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] SmokeMasta:
main problem is in my eyes that if you screw up and crash your tab you lose allot of data.

and can be quite annoying
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] pokey9000:
This is one of the things I'm hoping to get out of the TF. Connectbot runs pretty well in dock mode, except there's no ESC key! Is there any way to remap the top row to ESC and F1-12 and require FN for their Android functions?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ViViDboarder:
I found out that if you click with the mouse on the screen you'll see the escape button pop up and you can click that. It's a connectbot feature. I wish he would implement something like Search key sends escape...

But on another note, it looks like someone already did my idea! https://market.android.com/details?id=com.touchqode.editor&feature=search_result

Doesn't work quite as well as I hoped on the TF, but I'm going to email the dev some suggestions.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
Hey pokey! Looks like you're moving on from your NC! I just got a TF, and I'm loving it so far.

I'm just about to try installing a chroot Ubuntu image. I'm hoping that will give me emacs and bash, etc. Let's see how far we can push this thing!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
Chroot Ubuntu works like a champ, emacs and all!

Not having an escape key is going to be a problem, though. As soon as I brought up emacs I hit the back arrow key by reflex, and closed out the terminal!

Instructions here:

http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/

Forgot to mention, make sure you install busybox first (needs losetup).
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] tescalada:
Maybe the ability to auto-sync your working directory with dropbox might help.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ViViDboarder:
How's the responsiveness of using a VNC client? Is there one that maybe maps Search to Esc? Or an Open Source one we could maybe modify?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
I didn't plan on installing any GUI components, just using text text mode, so I haven't tried a VNC serever. Text mode would only require a modified terminal server.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can get used to anything short of mapping back array to escape, which could be a problem.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ViViDboarder:
Well I forked ConnectBot (ssh client) with an option to map Search to ESC.

Works pretty well. It's in a easily available location too. The issue is I can't really map over Back because you need that to exit windows. I could try to "move" the back button maybe... I'll see if I can do something like Back = Esc and Ctrl + Back = Back.

Also I noticed on GitHub someone did some enhancements for Honeycomb so I'll try to merge those too.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
I've had better luck with Android Terminal, and I have been able to map back to escape, which is great! I also mapped caps-lock to control, but that only worked half way (it still does a caps lock).

Anyhoo, the point is that we apparently can remap the keys however we want in an app, which is good news.

I think my ideal mapping would be:

Back = Escape

Caps Lock = Ctrl

Ctrl = Back

I would just lose Caps Lock. How often is is really necessary anyway.

On an unrelated note, is there a way to turn down the sensitivity of the touchpad? I keep getting random clicks, and I think it's coming from me hitting the touchpad.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ViViDboarder:
That sounds cool. I'll check it out.

As for the touchpad, i always hate tap to click on touchpads. I wish this was a ag to turn that off, but i haven't seen it yet.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
Turns out that is was much easier to just edit the keymap file to change the keymapping. The file is /system/user/keylayout/asusec.kl. This works flawlessly so far.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ViViDboarder:
Needs root?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
Yes.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] K900:
Gentoo + VNC worked nice on my Desire back in the days. I only got vim and stuff though, compiling JDK on the device will probably take a godzillion years ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] pokey9000:
Yeah, as much fun as the NC was, I wanted a bigger screen and a faster CPU for reading PDFs. EzPDF runs like butter on the TF, and for that alone it's worth the $$$. Add to that the keyboard and an SSH terminal and I don't even need a laptop anymore.

Thanks for finding the keymap file. Once I get over being too big a wuss to root, that's the first thing I'll play with.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
Native NDK

FYI, I've successfully cross-compiled the NDK to run directly on Android, which gives us a native gcc/g++. It's a little rough around the edges, and not very well tested, but if anyone is interested I'll post a tarball after I've tested it a bit more.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] t0dbld:
hay just got my transformer today so , im about to join the work... out of curiosity anyone get ubuntu to recognize this device yet ? my first 15 minutes have been filled with frustrations :-P as i dont want to use windows :-P i added it to the rules.d but still no avail dont see any posts on this anyone else had this prob ? EDIT *** fixed for adb how ever Ubuntu still not seeing it as removable storage media
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] 0TheRain0:
I would love he tarball when you get a chance *giddy with excitement*
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
Android NDK

I uploaded a tarball of my NDK that runs native on Android. It's currently in my dropbox folder:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6908567/android-gcc-4.4.0.tar.gz

I still haven't tested it much. You still need to specify all the odd options that the NDB build script does. The best place that I've found that details at least the required options is:

http://warpedtimes.wordpress.com/category/technology/android-technology

Please let me know how it works for you. When I get a chance I'll try to document what's required to compile it. It's really not hard, but it took a few pretty ugly hacks.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] t0dbld:
incase non one has found it a keyboard called hacker keyboard is now in the market... it will solve all of your keymaping needs and is quite nice :-)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
Google Code project

I created a Google Code project that we can use to collaborate. I plan to use it to distribute various packages as I get them working, staring with the compiler.

The project is at:

http://code.google.com/p/native-android-development/

Let me know if you would like to be added as a member, or if you have anything that you would like to contribute.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ViViDboarder:
Thumb Keyboard 4 Beta has custom programmable keys that let you map ESC and others now too. Pretty damn useful too since it's way easier to type with on a tablet than most other keyboards.

http://thumb4beta.blogspot.com/

I emailed the developer the other day too, if you buy the 3.X version in the market you will get the upgrade to 4.0 automatically when released. (I did this in case the price bumps up with the 4.0 release).

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.beansoft.keyboardplus&feature=search_result
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
The native NDK can now be found at:

http://native-android-development.googlecode.com/files/android-gcc-4.4.0.tar.gz
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
This is actually the correct site for determining the minimal CFLAGS/LDFLAGS for compiling using the NDK compiler:

http://www.bekatul.info/content/native-c-application-android

It explains why all of the odd switches are required. It would be great if someone wrote a shell version of the agcc script that would run native...
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Gary13579:
I just installed Cloud9IDE, and am using it to develop some Rails applications. Works pretty well, I just need to add support for rake commands and such into Cloud9IDE, then it'll be perfect!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] liviuv:
Is there a place where the forked version of ConnectBot can be downloaded from?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ViViDboarder:
Sure thing.

Source: https://github.com/ViViDboarder/connectbot

Zip with APK file inside is attached
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] finalhit:
i have the dock, and the shift key seems to behave like capslock. is my situation weird or can this be remedied?

I don't need a signature.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] tcpsyn:
I've found that for this device, Better Terminal Emulator pro works better than connectbot. (The ctrl/function keys respond properly)

I do most of my day to day stuff in a screen session, so it's made working with the transformer much less infuriating.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] r2DoesInc:
ive actually taken this a step further, at least in thought.

im familiar with running ubuntu via the chroot method, but thats pretty lame. what if we were able to get native linux running on our tab? theres a guy doing that for the galaxy tab, and from what i hear, ubuntu is actually very tablet friendly.

this combined with some sort of dual boot implementation would be perfect in my opinion.

and btw, theres a better keyboard, its called hackers keyboard. the tab key functions correctly, it has arrow keys, etc. it was designed with connectbot usage in mind :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] axe2:
There's been significant development in Ubuntu for the Nook Color:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1055954

, but why stop at dual booting when you can run four OSes at once:

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...ome_os_and_ubuntu_united_in_one_platform.html
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] majedev:
+1 developer interested in the subject.

By the way, I was able to ADB from Transformer to Samsung Galaxy ACE (s5830) through USB cable, works flawlessly.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] player911:
Hasn't there also been development on the TF regarding Ubuntu?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] SplasPood:
How were you able to get adb going? Thats exactly what brought me to this thread :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Diablo67:
JavaIDEdroid is an Android application that aims to be an integrated development environment for creating native Android applications. It should run on Android 1.6 or higher (I'm using Android 2.2.1)

Ideally, it will allow you to create APK files completely on Android devices, without the need to use the Android SDK on Windows or Linux.

This seems like an interesting tool
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Gary13579:
Just like you would anywhere else. Plug phone into USB plug USB into TF, open terminal application, type "adb" and hit enter.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] SplasPood:
Hah, I went looking to see if anyone had gotten adb running ON the TF101 but never bothered just looking to see if it was already there.

Thanks
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] alt236:
Regarding remapping the keyboard keys, this is very promising: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1144204

You can remap the top row as anything and use a meta key (shift/ctlr) to keep the original functionality. So the back key can be remapped to ESC but SHIFT+KEY will still go back.

When I get the time (from next week) I'll write an on-board editor for the binding file (with selectable profiles).
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnkc1975:
How do I install the BAMF Remix 1.6.1 Patch? I just flashed 1.6 last night. Do I need to flash a new rom, or do I just boot into recovery and install the patch from the zip?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viggs:
You can just boot into recovery and install the zip.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnkc1975:
Cool...Thanks
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DontCome2MyHouse:
What does this update do? I can't seem to find a straight answer.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dave8311:
Features of 1.6.1

•32-tab browser is back.

•Sound events used with raising and lowering volume have been removed.

•Further tweaking of automatic backight settings in an attempt to fix a bug with dimming and not resuming brightness correctly.

•Rom manager included.

•Kernel manager Lite included.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viggs:
This was pulled from the BAMF thread,

"Features of 1.6.1

32-tab browser is back.

Sound events used with raising and lowering volume have been removed.

Further tweaking of automatic backight settings in an attempt to fix a bug with dimming and not resuming brightness correctly.

Rom manager included.

Kernel manager Lite included."

There may be more...
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DontCome2MyHouse:
How do I enable the 32-tab browser?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] periclytes:
Is it possible to undo a patch w/o flashing 1.6?

I tried running permission fix in rom manager after applying the patch and it errors saying it's unable to run privileged commands.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FMTesla:
I believe its enabled automatically after the update. Don't quote me, though.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FMTesla:
Did you create a backup before flashing the update? I don't believe he has anything out to unflash the update. The best bet would be to restore the backup, or reflash 1.6. Doesn't take long.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DontCome2MyHouse:
Is it the web browser or something else? How do I get to it?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skantman69:
Do any of you thunderbolt guys know if I can run the thunderbolts cool looking car mode app on my evo. The car mode screen on EVO looks like crap. My buddies thunderbolt car mode screen is way nicer. Thanks in advance.

Sent from your Moms EVO using 4G speed
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wynand32:
Since Asus folks seem to be visiting this forum, I thought I'd mention a bug in the most current firmware (US 5/1/2011). If you go to Settings, About Tablet, Battery use, you'll note that it says "Battery usage data not available." It should provide a list of the system components and apps that have used particular percentages of battery life.

Hopefully that'll be fixed soon (along with the inordinately high battery burn rate in standby)...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] czm:
if you click on the graph above that message you get limited info. But agree it could be better.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] KitsuneKnight:
There was actually a previous thread on this issue. There's actually supposed to be more info displayed on that page (there is on the Xoom), but for some reason the Transformer just gets that error.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jinsoku3g:
Theres a 5/1 firmware?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wynand32:
Yes, for manual update, via Asus. Link is in the main FOTA thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1041502
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wynand32:
Yes, precisely. Seems like the software's not getting a reading from a sensor or something. It's definitely a bug.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
it's the manual update for 423
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jadescorpion:
3.1 Update

I just got the Android 3.1 update on my Transformer, and this bug is still there: no usage data availible. It may be minor, but its very disapointing they didn't bother to, or for some reason couldn't, fix this.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] transformerfan:
Tap (touch) the graph and the data will popup.