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[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
I agree with the Sense 3.0 port (I personally doubt we'll ever get a really stable version for the EVO). I

I don't agree with Sense 2.0 or 2.1 running as well as 1.0. The Sense 2.0 roms I've ran are by far more smooth and offer much better battery life.

I went from Mik 4.6 to Virus' Inspire port and the battery life increase was pretty significant for me.

There does seem to be more junk running and whatnot on Sense 2.0 but it doesn't impact the performance at all. I know the Inspire doesn't include the sprint spyware (IQAgent) but I always remove that anyway.

It's a user to user thing.. there will always be variation.

I had the same feelings about Samsung, and the Dev support definitely isn't as good as the EVO.

But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The new version of touchwiz doesn't look quite as bad, I don't think it has ever been as horribly bloated as Sense. Top that with the really awesome battery life right out of the box and the fact that GB roms are leaking for the Galaxy S 1.. and I'm warming up to Sammy a little bit.

I'm still gonna wait and see... I will most definitely not buy a phone with a physical keyboard.
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
You sir are a hater, the i9000 has huge support and the new GSII USES the ext4 filesystem, it is more powerful and better looking than the evo3d
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Hmmm. Different experiences I guess. 2.1 uses more ram and on my phone, produces periods of unresponsiveness and lag - two things I don't experience on 1.0 or CM7 so I know its not a hardware issue.

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[EVO 4G General] lambofgod13:
Like i said my wife has had hers for 7 months now and i can hate on it. Once you try a real phone youll get off that samsung is good crap.

sent from my morse code machine.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Yea, it's likely a YMMV thing. I'm not at all trying to discredit your experience with it. Just hasn't been that way for me.

CM6 ran like an all-star on my phone... CM7, not so much. It's just odd how different EVOs take to things.

I will say, I think Sense 3.0 will be a hog. I know the EVO 3D comes with a bigger battery.. but, I somehow see it still having HTCs notorious rep of bad battery life.

Time will tell..
[EVO 4G General] lambofgod13:
I believe i said epic 4G? It runs on rfs file i didnt say any other samsung. Explain why htc slams updates out fast to keep us current and samsung releases crap that screws your phone up then stops the updates and for months leaves prople with messed up phones before rolling out a fixed update?

sent from my morse code machine.
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
Again bro you have hatred for no reason, HTC slams updates fast? Uhh how come we don't have gingerbread on our evos then, Samsung already released gingerbread to gs1, European version that is, you do realize that their is a world outside the USA, the reason your updates take forever is because our carriers here in the USA suck! The add all their garbage to the update that delays it even further
[EVO 4G General] lambofgod13:
Thx you made my point. So if your buyin a new phone in the u.s. than dont get a samsung. Bingo.

sent from my morse code machine.
[EVO 4G General] Jfree3000:
If the Samsung comes to Spring minus the keyboard, I will most likely buy one and then complain about my updates later on. The specs on that phone are quite impressive, and if the Evo 3d doesn't have a kickstand then why bother? :D:D:D;)
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
It is bizzare how experience varies so much from phone to phone. I don't remember it being quite this way in the WM days, ah well. My bad if I came across as defensive, I didn't think you were trying to discredit me at all.

The battery life on the EVO 3D will be interesting. I wish HTC would use LED screens instead of LCD, they are so much more efficient...
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
The EVO 4G and EPIC 4G are both on Sprint. The EVO has definitely received more frequent updates than the EPIC, and those released by HTC have improved user experience in most cases whereas those released by Samsung have been riddled with bugs and issues. I have nothing against Samsung and I honestly think the GS2 is a better phone than the EVO 3D, but update delays can't necessarily be blamed on carriers.

Like I've said before, if the EVO 3D has an encrypted bootloader, I will probably get a GS2 instead when its released. I just want to run CM7, 8 and beyond on either of these two beastly phones!
[EVO 4G General] Animus_3.0:
The experience is the bottom line. You have to look at everything. The battery has been the only part of the Evo experience that i have not liked. Other than that, its been great. But, if recent events have any indication, timely updates and locked bootloaders may put HTC behind Samsung on support. Samsung has started to step their game up. I'm not one to write a company off, so that may lead to me waiting until at least Q3. I am hungry for a dual core though.

Sent from my Infected Super Evo
[EVO 4G General] TerminusEst:
Agreed on the YMMV thing.

CM7 has gotten progressively worse and more buggy/battery draining on my EVO while other people who used to have a million more problems than I (I almost never had any of the common bugs) now seem to be reporting great improvements to their use and battery, while now I'm having constant battery drain issues, freeze/lag issues and now even a whole host of wifi issues.

Right now I just have to assume that my version of the EVO along with how I'm using it simply isn't suiting the adjustments and upgrades they are making to the CM7 evo code. I have faith it will work itself out but until then I'm trying to figure out why my SD card won't work on Sense ROMS because I just want to go back to a tried and true tested sense ROM until I can use my phone without wondering what weird new glitch will have me tearing my hair out.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
If buy an EVO 3D now and the gs2 comes out in q3, you will likely be able to sell the e3d for $400+ as long as its in like new condition then get a gs2. Or, get the e3d now and if you decide you don't want it, return it to best buy within 30 days and wait for the gs2 to release...

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[EVO 4G General] Animus_3.0:
That sounds like the plan.

Sent from my Infected Super Evo
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Who has tried the Echo looks kinda nice from messing with it at the store dunno how long the screen hinges will last tho. The epic looked nice to it's 4g Echo isn't.

The Evo 3d looks alright but think it will suck the crap outta more battery not my taste in a phone lol.
[EVO 4G General] erik077:
I love my current EVO but if I have to choose I would choose Galaxy S 2 instead EVO 3D... Blame me but that phone has better specs, better design and as GSM its usable worldwide... for me.
[EVO 4G General] Animus_3.0:
What phone do you have now?

Sent from my Infected Super Evo
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
I have a evo was thinking about getting my wife a newer phone since she is due for a upgrade. I dunno what I will go to when im due for a upgrade.

Looks like your a virus rom user his rom's are bad ass.
[EVO 4G General] Animus_3.0:
Yeah, i am. His roms are sick. I'm a believer. From what i hear, the HTC devs we have over hear are the best, which makes it tough to give up this phone. And it looks like they are just scratching the surface.

Virus is incredible, should be working directly for HTC. I have full confidence to this Kingdom port they are working on.

Sent from my Infected Super Evo
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
I am a beta tester over there loving the site he is always whippin something wicked up. Was loving the Airborne rom's this new stuff looks bad ass. Really wish I knew some good themers have a bad ass idea for a theme for airbourne.

I really don't wanna swap phone's either I would wait a few months after there new phone drop out cause many will have bugs and issues like the evo with power button and screen problems lol.
[EVO 4G General] NYCguy2020:
+1

That phone is a bad azz.This is my next phone.....Can't wait!
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
The GS2 is CDMA + GSM?
[EVO 4G General] Animus_3.0:
The T-Mobile version will only be GSM. I am sure there will be a CDMA version later in the year.

Sent from my Infected Super Evo
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Right, I asked because I thought we were talking exclusively about Sprint phones.
[EVO 4G General] NYCguy2020:
Hopefully we get a CDMA version W/O a physical keyboard.
[EVO 4G General] pathtologos:
I too have been debating this issue. I have an Evo 4G--best phone I've ever owned for tweaking, modding, customizing, etc. I really hope HTC doesn't screw us with the bootloader issue. Anyway, I did pre-order the Evo 3D yesterday at Best Buy BUT I have my doubts with the GS2 out there. I've never owned a Samsung and I'm hearing some nightmare stories about software/upgrade issues. Samsung has announced some event happening on 5/24 (google it)--you think it'll concern GS2? If they announced it for Sprint, I may use my $50 credit toward it instead of the EVO 3D. I've read several reviews that put the GS2 JUST ahead of the Evo 3D where hardware is concerned.
[EVO 4G General] popper668:
hope you are not as sorry as I was with the Epic.
[EVO 4G General] ayman86:
sgs2 has raving reviews everywhere. spec wise its roughly the same as the to be evo3d. camera/video on the sgs2 is great (30fps is huge for me). if the sensation is anything, the evo3d will be disappointing (framerate still sucks) but since the camera/video is a huge part of the evo3d, id expect it to be pretty good, so ill hold my reservations til then.

i hope sg2g is an option not too far in the distance so id get at least way my options between the two and not wait til oct/nov for sgs2
[EVO 4G General] Maximiano:
I too have been debating this. I am hoping for a version of the G2X to come to Sprint or the SGS2. I think that you should add a poll - makes it easy for people to just vote.

Edit: Guaranteed long wait for SGS2 :(
[EVO 4G General] erik077:
There wont be keyboard (in case that change i would give it up) based on new pictures. I like the way it was, tick and no keyboard... and if CDMA version comes out... bye my lovely EVO!
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
When the first galaxy s appeared it had no keyboard either. Sprint is the only carrier to have a keyboard equipped version. Considering sprint has yet to announce this phone I don't think we can be sure one way or the other if it will have a keyboard or not. As the successor to the sg1 it makes more sense that it would have a kb.

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[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Is that 30fps with HD video recording? If so, that's impressive, most HD movies don't play at that rate.

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[EVO 4G General] Animus_3.0:
I think I will create another thread for that. Thanks.

Sent from my Infected Super Evo
[EVO 4G General] ayman86:
yup.

sources

"The Samsung Galaxy S2 has the all-important 30fps 1080p Full HD video recording at its heart, "

"The Full HD 1080p video is one the best we've seen from a phone, largely due to the fluid 30fps it's captured with, "

"since the Galaxy S II is capable of shooting Full HD 1080p video at 30fps, still something of a rarity in the market. "
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Thanks for the links. That certainly is impressive! The GS2 looks like the phone to beat honestly. For now I'll stick with my plan to get the 3D and reevaluate when the GS2 is released. If it is in the same form as the GSM version (32GB storage, no hw keyboard, etc) I may have to sell the 3D... If the 3D ends up with an encrypted bootloader, this is a no brainer - GS2 all the way!

The one concern I do have is this: my wife's Epic 4G sucks. Its glitchy and the software updates have been late and unstable. Granted, the ultimate plan will be to run CM7, 8, etc so this may not be an issue. As of now, the Galaxy S series has poor support from the CM team, while they seem to love everything HTC - this is also a big consideration for me. As I said though, encrypted bootloader = no CM support either...
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Funny thing though.....noone has said anything about sprint getting a gs2. Just saying.
[EVO 4G General] ayman86:
true but we are just expecting so since every carrier carried a version of the galaxy s.

cant wait for reviews of the evo3d to come out
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
That's one reason why I'm not going to wait around for it, that and the EVO is such remarkable phone - I look forward to its successor.

At this point it seems unlikely that Sprint wouldn't get the GS2 since Samsung made a point to have the GS1 on all four major US carriers. I think the same thing will happen, otherwise Sprint won't have a recent version of a Samsung phone which would be atypical...
[EVO 4G General] beatstork:
Evo 3D has a camera switch to toggle 2D and 3D mode. It takes 5mp photos in 3D and ------------> 10mp photos <------------in 2D due to its DUAL 5MP CAMERAS. 5+5= 10

"According to what I read about it "

Maybe someone already stated this in a previous page, I just was lo lazy to look.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
I've read that as well but I've heard it refuted as well. I don't think its true... I'm not too worried about the MP, HTC said they improved the camera and lens. Even though its lower MPs I think the pics will be better.

I read that it can do 30fps 3D 720p recording on another note.
[EVO 4G General] Android 17:
Technically, the processor in the SGS2 is better, the EVO3D uses an ARM-8 architecture, while the SGS2 uses an ARM-9 one.

I don't feel like digging for links right now, but I've read somewhere that the ARM-9 is up to 20% more efficient than the ARM-8 running at the same speeds.

This will likely mean, at the very least, slightly better battery life.

I'm torn on both phones, but basically the pros of the EVO3D to me are: QhD resolution, 3D, dedicated camera button, and likely great developer support.

The SGS2: Lower res, but superior, brighter screen, known to use less battery than a typical LCD. More efficient processor. Significantly thinner.

Although this is still debatable, I'm betting the GPU in the SGS2 will be at least somewhat superior to the Adreno 220.

It's still too early to tell, but from all indications, HTC and Qualcomm seem to be at least half a year behind companies such as Samsung and Nvidia as far as raw specs.

If for some reason the EVO3D has an encrypted bootloader (somewhat unlikely) it'll be a deal breaker.

If the SGS2 variant coming to Sprint has a keyboard, making the phone thicker and clunkier than the EVO3D, it'll be a deal breaker as well.
[EVO 4G General] droidguy718:
Get the evolution sense 3.0 is amazing
[EVO 4G General] Animus_3.0:
Are you running 3.0 now?
[EVO 4G General] droidguy718:
Yeah using virus' kingdom ported rom a few bugs but its still great. Plus I've seen videos of fully functional sense 3.0 its an amazing ui
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Ill just make this point again, the specs on paper don't mean a hill of beans when, as with evey Samsung phone, where the software is buggy, laggy, and neglected by the manufacture. I had my experiences with enough Samsung phones to come to this conclusion myself.
[EVO 4G General] kthejoker20:
Samsung instinct....

enough said LMAO!!!!!!!

I'm getting the EVO 3d
[EVO 4G General] erik077:
I like galaxy the way how is it shown now - with no keyboard....that way will stay 8mm not having 1.5cm keyboard phone (double size from what is it now)

This phone is HOT. See for yourself on link bellow

http://www.engadget.com/photos/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/#4094362
[EVO 4G General] knoc:
I had the instinct was supposed to be hot. Apps were never created for it no development. Just didn't take off. Then I got the hero, then evo. I too dunno what to get but the way my contract is by the time i upgrade yearly. The evo 3d will already be old and ill get it slightly cheaper. My evo was 150 or so and I got it this just last tax return. So I'm in the debate with u. But I got a little more time 8)

On a side note. I can't wait to upgrade cuss my evo will be my backup phone. My rom tester when switching roms and stuff. It'll be my very reliable and faithful *****
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
You must've misunderstood my post. I was stating that the sprint version had a keyboard. The one in the link you posted is GSM.

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[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
If you root it,does that matter? You can flash and change what you want.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
No, that's the S2, but I get what you mean. I don't think the Epic set a absolute precedent over including keyboards. But ya, the S2 looks great. I think I'd get it if it were open enough. The current GS has pretty closed down drivers, I think, which makes porting newer Android builds hard. It's definitely looking more technically impressive plus the build looks great.
[EVO 4G General] NYCguy2020:
After watching many video reviews of th SGS2 my mind is pretty much set.THIS IS MY NEXT PHONE.Between the UI hardware acceleration and the 1.2GHz dual core Exynos this bad boy is ridiculously fast and smooth.

http://www.youtube.com/user/samjpullen#p/u/28/9UhSL7yaSCI

see for yourself.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Rooting didn't fix much, if anything at all.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
This has been my experience with the epic as well.

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[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
I was thinking about getting the samsung transform for my daughter since its free with upgrade at radio shack, I read some user reviews on phonescoop, im so glad I didn't get it. Same typical Samsung issues with that phone too. Its pretty much the samsung moment in a new housing.
[EVO 4G General] Animus_3.0:
So, if the E3D is also locked, how much will that kill the overall experience? A huge part of the charm of the OG Evo is being able to enjoy new roms
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
Don't take this as me being a d bag but it's obviously going to kill a lot of the experience if locked with a boot loader key...but for the overall sales of the phone, it will do minimal damage. But then again, it's what the carriers want along with compliance of HTC
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
That would be correct... but qualcomm doesn't use stock a8 architecture. Their version is some percent faster... I don't remember how much though.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
If the e3d is boot looked and dosent look like it can be cracked or too risky ill probably just have to settle for the nexus 4g.

I'd domt think I can stand having NASCAR, sprint tv and whatever other BS apps running in the background all day.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Even with an encrypted bootloader I believe we can still achieve partial root access to allow running apps that require root but we will be unable to install a custom recovery or flash roms and kernels.

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[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
That's good enough for me, just let me take off the bloat and run ad free im str8.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
I agree, the amount of control gained with partial root may suffice in the case of the 3d. Though I really hope full root can be attained

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[EVO 4G General] Android 17:
I believe something like 10%, either way the A9 is superior, but perhaps not as much as you may think.

Not that I'm dogging the EVO3D, It's still a beast of a phone and I'll likely end up getting it, but I'm still very curious about the galaxy 2.
[EVO 4G General] niv3d:
Will the SGS2 be a 4G phone?
[EVO 4G General] Crossrocker:
Most probably

Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.
[EVO 4G General] gr33kb0i94:
Go with the 3d bro. Cant go wrong with sense 3.0!
[EVO 4G General] tnerb123:
Stay away from samscum. They still cant get there SH*&$ Straight. First it was GPS, then it was lack of updates. Now the the nexus S is totally crappy signal strength. I will bet they will have some other crappy issue. :)
[EVO 4G General] niv3d:
Well the SGS2 has been out overseas for at least a month now and I have not heard of any gps issues. I think this phone is going to be great! However I am definitely open to opinions on the EVO 3D. Again I am trying to decide between the two.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Check the forums. They are having a bunch of issues.
[EVO 4G General] niv3d:
Hmm really, I'll check that out. So why should I get the EVO 3D?
[EVO 4G General] backdown:
the evo 3d got a poor review on engadget..i think i will stay away.
[EVO 4G General] BloodKil:
Endgadget loves apple even more than you do, and to be honest I always see them pick apart small issues on android phones/tablets and ignore the exact same issue on a apple device.

That said I havent seen the review from them on the 3d yet though I plan on checking it out. Just be wary of brandism on sites like that.
[EVO 4G General] zerowonderboy:
Probably going to get flamed but its JUST an OPINION:

1)Nexus 3

2)IPhone 4s or 5 (if comes to sprint and has to have some sick specs otherwise #5)

3)Samsung Galaxy S 2

4)Motorola Photon 4g

5)HTC Evo 3D

The E3D is last because the battery is going to be AWFUL (which I can stand), 3D is stupid, and it has no features that catch my eye.
[EVO 4G General] I'M NOT YELLING:
Seeing how the GSM S2 performs stock on Touchwiz, damn. I may not feel the need to flash any other ROM because that thing is FAST. The screen on top of the battery life reported? Christ, count me out of the HTC family.
[EVO 4G General] zerowonderboy:
+1

10 char.
[EVO 4G General] meeklo062704:
I've loved every HTC phone I've ever had all the way back to the mogul. But I can't lie, the galaxy s2 looks nice. I've seen some epics and they're not bad, but the nexus s is scary. My neighbor has one and can't connect to 4g when I have 2 bars. Poor reception is my biggest concern because that would definitely be a deal breaker. Also, amoled screensook great, except they all seem to have a bit of a color tint to them. I just keep coming to HTC has ALWAYS done right by me. Especially with the new display and dual core on the evo 3d. I've never seen sense run that smooth before.
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
I am waiting until this fall for the next generation iPhone. If that doesn't come to sprint (or isn't even announced to be coming to sprint), I'll look into the best WP7 offering sprint has. If that doesn't impress me, I'll settle and get the Galaxy S II
[EVO 4G General] todah09:
we had this same argument last year;the samsung phones are powerful.but,overall the htc was the better phone....
[EVO 4G General] Animus_3.0:
Anybody looking at the Photon?
[EVO 4G General] zerowonderboy:
Me, but I think its too late to be getting a Tegra 2, when the Tegra 3 is coming :D
[EVO 4G General] meeklo062704:
The photon definitely looks promising. I was just concerned after seeing the hands on videos on youtube that it looked laggy. I don't if it was the blur ui, or just that its laggy.
[EVO 4G General] Greenfieldan:
There are rumors that an iPhone 4S is coming to Sprint. (clicky for info)

On topic, I'm going to go with the Evo 3D (I think). Honestly, if the SG 2 HAS a kb I might get it (I don't care if it's clunky, there's nothing like the feel of a good keyboard). But dev support is also a big thing to consider. The Evo STILL has a huge dev base and I know A LOT of them are going over to the 3D. HTC devices are notorious for having a lot of dev interest and that might be the selling point to me. The 3D will be a gimmick thing to impress my friends :p
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
SGS2 looks like a good phone but me personally I don't want a phone that can be mistaken for an iphone. Its designed to look exactly like one. Plus the touchwiz UI even performs like ios. All of that isn't appealing to me. So looking at the many comparisons between the sensation and the SGS2, there isn't a big difference in performance. A few tenths of a second doing a task is minute to me, and by all accounts the 3D is faster than the sensation according to Phil from android central, so all things being equal im going with the 3D based on performance enhancements and it can't help that the dev community is gonna be twice as good. 3D is definately my next phone.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
I dont really care what phone it looks like.. I just want the best option available. At this point that looks to be the GS2.