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[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
How is the WM argument a bad one? My post was in response to someone saying their device was doomed. I will word this very carefully:

Your device is only doomed if development and support ceases to exist. There are two levels of support: Manufacturer (Microsoft) and Community (XDA). WinMo is not totally dead yet because of this site, nor are the devices (HD2 for example) dead yet.

In general, sales matter because without sales companies fold. But in this particular case, Microsoft will continue to do develop and support Windows Phone. The Nokia agreement was the first big, public sign of that.

I do not see Windows Phone 7 being scrapped for a Windows Phone 8 in 2012. Scrapped meaning development and support for Windows Phone 7 ceasing to exist. Will your HTC HD7 get Windows Phone 8? Who knows for sure. But Microsoft is in it to win it, no matter how long it takes.

So it would be nice for Windows Phones sales to be 10M in the first month, but not a do or die. If I did not have plans to buy an Android Tablet and replace my old notebook, I would pick up a Trophy right now (cheapest 1GHz phone I can find on the market).
[Windows Phone 7 General] VelJharig:
A Canalys report just released implies that Q1 2011 shipments for WP7 were in the 2.4 million range. That doesn't contradict the PC Mag report, other than for the people trying to spin the 674,000 sales figures as being for the entire time since release. It does show some steady, but slow growth:

http://wmpoweruser.com/canalys-around-2-4-million-windows-phones-shipped-in-q1-2011/
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
That is totally true. The development keeps the platform alive and is one of the signs of it's life.

I'd never say MS has scrapped the platform for WP8. Nokia deal... Well it's not that clear for me.

However it's also true MS doesn't hurry bringing some changes which would make the platform better. No new top end devices actually is a catastrophe.

My point was the market is not predictable. So even with MS involvement lack of any success will not push it's development in the future.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
It's not the same experience, if the UI is different... Unless you're using a different definition of "experience." I think that will be the case moreso for WP7 than for Android. There will be less incentive to upgrade a WP7 phone due to the limits on customization and the strict hardware specs, in addition to the "guarantee" that all handsets will get the same OS upgrades :P

The radio is used the same on single and dual core phones. The Dual Cores save battery life regardless. The newer CPUs by default draw less power than the older CPUs, and running two cores at half capacity often results in less draw than running a single core at near full capacity (i.e. media playback, multi-tasking, etc.).

Again, the radio in both are pretty similar, but a more efficient processor will obviously result in less power usage. It's not hard to figure that out...

The Android Manufacturers are getting better with updates as well. From the way things are looking, Epic 4G/Vibrant users in the US may get Gingerbread around the same time (if not before) WP7 devices get Mango...

IIRC, the Samsung WP7 devices are still having update issues? :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
That will not make consumers buy the phones. I think a distinction needs to be made...

Just because a company is in it to win it and spends tons of money on advertising, doesn't mean consumers will buy it.

Consumers tend to make comparative decisions. They weigh the benefits of one product towards another one.

The only way they can avoid that, is if the WP7 devices are price so low that they can win sales based on price.

But carriers will probably still subsidize them to the same price as anything else to make more profits off of them. Since most users get their phones form a carrier, well... You finish that statement.

I'm sure Microsoft wanted Microsoft Bob and Windows Me to be a winners as well...
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
I'm honestly tired of people saying Microsoft isn't bringing "big changes to catch up to the competition" then what in the hell is Mango? I mean, I must honestly be dreaming of it's inclusions, right? Nobody consistently *****es at Apple for not releasing OSX updates monthly to "catch Windows" do they? Would I love to see a new feature every day of my life? Sure. But for anybody with half a brain who has viewed the demoes of Mango can see how tightly integrated most of these new features are. One feature feeds into another, which feeds into another, such as the Bing searches. When Apple releases an update yearly for iOS I don't hear complaints.

Some of you guys have unrealistic expectations and have this notion that you can manage Microsoft's resources and marketing better. So, I wonder, why you aren't in their position since you can handle it so much better. I continue to point out that Microsoft hasn't gotten to their position by making bad decisions, and have actually succeeded at almost every thing they have ever entered... Regardless of what was necessary.

Mango addresses a significant number of complaints, and these features aren't implemented in two days time. Software development takes a significant amount of time. We have companies dedicated to one program, ONE, and it takes them a year+ to release a miniscule update.

People also fail to remember than Android was a "failure" by most of your standards until Verizon completely took over their marketing campaign with their Droid advertisements filling up every other commercial slot. Now, regardless of carrier or device, an Android phone is dubbed a "Droid" and it's owner will tell you that it "Does." Eventually, Windows Phone WILL reach this level, this is Microsoft we're speaking about here.

I understand you guys are upset that it isn't Windows Phone, but to dub it a failure and to remove credit from Microsoft from scrapping a known enterprise system and diving head first into a consumer oriented "pretty" phone market is also unfair to this company. Call me a fan boy, but I see myself more of a realist, and having a father which develops extremely important software for a living, I understand this takes time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
N8ter,

If your reponse is your expansion then I think you need to say it, because too often it seems what you are responding to something that was not said.

I did not say Microsoft being in it to win it would affect sales positively. Actually none of what I said had anything to do with increased sales. A poster made a statement saying if it is all true about the low sales then his/her phone is doomed. My response was just saying even though ordinarily poor sales will doom products, Windows Phone will not be doomed so easily. I also tried to define what doom meant.

It will take more than 1 year of poor sales to doom Windows Phone.

Fresh comment:

There are people on this board that believe the poor response to Windows Phone is due to its lack of features and it being a beta os.

Question - What due diligence does the average person do before picking up a contract phone?

Here is my thinking - even some nerds on this forum did not fully understand what they were getting into. In theory the fresh looking UI and the device offering should have been enough.

I do not know but the average person would not have known Windows Phone could not do custom ringtones. Or sync natively with Outlook. Or all the other stuff. They would have asked about features like: Wifi, 3G, Video Calling (not there), Facebook, Emails, etc. In theory they would have bought it, a sale would be registered, and they would have returned it. Companies tend to conveniently tell you sales, not sales minus returns.

I do not know the answer, but I suspect the answer is not easy.
[Desire HD Android Development] capychimp:
nice seo ;) really nice
[Desire HD Android Development] mike1986.:
Nice! What's the difference between your port and Krzysiec's?
[Desire HD Android Development] Krzysiec:
seo based on my rearanged one with addon like picture when uknown number is calling and Accept/Reject buttons ;)

Thank u SEO!

Will polish some graphic of unknown caller cause this one is little not fitted to glassy background ;) Will post result here aswell ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] seo:
mine have an option to dismiss / accept calls
[Desire HD Android Development] robocik:
:D you are the man, testing it right away!!

Thanks!
[Desire HD Android Development] Try4Ce:
how to install this? I mean I know there files go, but whats with that txt?
[Desire HD Android Development] madindehead:
Ace. Thanks mate! Looks awesome :D

Guess we just need to push the LockScreen via adb. Do we also need to push the framework.jar?
[Desire HD Android Development] dazultra2000:
Ooh this is really good. I was starting to get really frustrated with the awkwardness of the previous sense 3 lockscreens...
[Desire HD Android Development] Krzysiec:
seo does Your .jar mess Advenced Power Menu options in for example RCMix ? ;) I flashed one of beta one and it did
[Desire HD Android Development] LINKSLOVESANDROID:
looks mint ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] mdeejay:
nice work :)
[Desire HD Android Development] GoRRaN:
might be a dump question...but how do i apply this? :)

thanks in advance
[Desire HD Android Development] seo:
the txt is a patch against com.htc.framrwork. it it here to help other devs easly enable the functionalyty in other GB bases

it shouldn't. advanced power menu comes from android.policy.jar and as I know framework-res.apk (because of some missing resources in android 2.3 framework)
[Desire HD Android Development] Krzysiec:
sorry bad thanks ;) It shouldnt be so close qoute :P

Anyway will prepare flashable zip in a minute with unknown caller graphic fitting ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] mike1986.:
I zipaligned apk file and made a flashable zip file for all that don't know what to do with it. Uploading.

Ah Krzysiec was first but anyway if I already promised - http://db.tt/hc6cUGQ
[Desire HD Android Development] seo:
oh forgot about a flashable zip. attached mine..
[Desire HD Android Development] ivereor:
Thank you very much :D

Do we clear Dalvic cache before installing?
[Desire HD Android Development] GoRRaN:
hmm...it would be great if someone manage to find the dancing android

i saw it on my friends Desire...

instead of still android (when you make a call) he had a dancing android.. :) nice :)

EDIT...

is there any difference between Sense3_LockScreen-0.4 and Sense3 Lockscreen
[Desire HD Android Development] Krzysiec:
Info for polish users :D Lockscreen already contains PL values inside ;)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qman66:
i searched this thread and could not find anyone with my problem. i flashed several times and no data and no signal bars though calls do come in and wifi is working. can anyone help me? thank you!!!
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tootalltoowide:
Personally, I had this issue the first time i flashed test4. No data without wifi, and voice bars were very laggy. I switched back to my stock rom for a day, and when i returned to play with it that night (reflash from .zip, not restore from backup), no more problems. The initial transition to 4g from 3g seems to take a bit longer than on the stock rom, but once it is up, everything is smooth. Not constructive, I know, but it is a data point. :)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qman66:
ok thanks. but which is the link to test 4. i have a feeling i installed the wrong one. can u send me link if u can? thanks
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonyagee:
Check the device thread on cm7 pre alpha links are at end. You want the one with a three which is actually the fourth one.

Here is how to get signal.

1. Goto network settings, scroll down to network type, select the cdma/edvo option.

2. Wait until green 3g. If it doesn't pop up repeate step 1

3. Once green, change setting to cdma+lte/auto and hit your screen off button. Don't touch phone for 5 minutes.

I'm not sure turning screen of makes a difference but this is how I've repeatedly done it.

I have found that if you loose 4g you can loose all data. Just repeate above. It seems to work for about 10 hours then a reboot is required.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tootalltoowide:
tonyagee is correct. This worked for me when I originally had your issue. :)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qman66:
thanks guys but this doesnt work for me. ive tried it with stock and leaked radio.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kSkwaired:
I too have CM7 and have issues with data/3g. I'm not in a 4g area so I can't speak for LTE. What I noticed is that if I'm connected to a wifi-network and move out of range. My phone has a hard time getting into 3g and vice versa. If I go from 3g to wifi. Same thing. It appears that this is a bug but I'd like to find the buglist so I can confirm. I have, however, been able to get around this issue by rebooting. A good indicator of data transfer is when the wifi icon or 3g icon is green and in the case of a 3g icon, the arrows are flashing. If they are white, you are connected, but you aren't getting any data.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidholic:
Not sure if this answers your question but I would try the wififix that Imoseyon made (link is in the CM thread somewhere). I enabled 3g, then rebooted into recovery and flashed the wififix file. Once the phone rebooted, I was able to move between 3g and wifi without issue as long as 3g was enabled first.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SonicTab:
Well getting tired of your Transformer's odd lag maybe you need the next version.

5x Tegra 2 performance...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/04/asus-planning-quad-core-tegra-3-and-intel-based-tablets/

Hope they still have someone working on ours:)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] FrayAdjacent:
That'll be nice.

The ultimate tablet would be very fast, snappy, multitask like a champ and play any video you throw at it.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SonicTab:
This market moves so fast most shipping devices get left behind.

Wonder what a used Transformer will sell for when the new ones ship?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jimbob1971:
If it is anything like the Transformer then count me in.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
same, I'll hand this one to the misses.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] andrew53517:
Does the current transformer really lag a lot after putting it through a lot of multitasking? If so, maybe I'll wait for the quadcore one.. I just don't feel like waiting till Oct. lol. :cool:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] FrayAdjacent:
Asus has said the Transformer will be a line of tablets, and the keyboard dock should be compatible with future tablets.

Winning strategy in my book.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Nocnocnoc:
But I just got mine DAMIT!!!!! Not even a week old:confused:

I guess I'll be shelling out more money at the end of year. If you look at their road map for the Tegra chip there is one slated from every year until 2014.

Chart under the two video's

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nvidia-announces-quad-core-kal-el-soc-promises-it-in-tablets-by/
[Eee Pad Transformer General] FrayAdjacent:
Mind that the Tegra II is a 2010 product... but it's really taking until this year to get good products that have it under the hood.

I'd expect late LATE 2011 before the Tegra III is in tablets, if not early 2012.

And think about it, your Transformer is a great tablet. It will still be working great at the start of 2012!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Nocnocnoc:
Yeah I know. I had the Viewsonic G-Tab back in Dec. The first Tegra 2 tablet but I returned them (wife and mine) to staples b/c the screen was super crap and it ran froyo with all the mobile phone components still under the hood.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] andrew53517:
As long as we have developers to continue giving us the latest software from Google or Asus continues supporting it, I'm cool with the current model for the next year or so.

Thunderbolt Rooted!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SlimDan22:
Realistically, i think we will be seeing a Tegra 3 tablet this holiday season or somewhere after CES in 2012

If you look at Nvidias release schedule, they plan on releasing a new tegra processor every year, i wont be getting a new tablet every year thats for sure

I am not really that interesting in the quad core factor of the Tegra 3, mostly the increased GPU cores and the inclusion of the NEON instruction set for ARM which really increases performance, it was stupid of them to not include it in Tegra 2
[Eee Pad Transformer General] hippieschuh:
I love how the chart shows "Tegra 2 - 2010" while the modell is not even avaible at half 2011

Tegra 3 - 2012 would be more realistic
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Jocelyn:
^This I bet it wont be until spring 2012 or later...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] donatom3:
The Viewsonic G Tablet and Malata tablets were out in November of 2010 with a Tegra 2.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Seihaku:
^ That.

Plus the Transformer was the first Asus tablet (in the modern sense of the word), they needed time for R&D, etc; I think the fact it's on a Tegra II is a result of nothing better being available earlier this year.

I'm sure once the T3s comes out, they will be much faster to market.

(Don't get me wrong, the Tegra 2 is excellent.)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SlimDan22:
If Asus releases a Tegra 3 tablet this summer, it will probably be more then $400

My guess around $600

Because it would be stupid to release a new low cost tablet when they just released one in the spring....
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gbcue:
This thread reminds me of that one Best Buy commercial with the newer stuff.

They even use tablets at the beginning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SlimDan22:
You bought the wrong tablet silly head!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] edge929:
Like others have mentioned, if we see a shipping Tegra 3 tablet before Xmas I'd be floored. Granted the Transformer got most of the R&D out of the way and the tablet intricacies should be mostly ironed out now, I just can't see Asus releasing an updated version within 3 months of their initial tablet release.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] BongoBong:
Well if they release right around christmas which would be a good time to do so, it would be around 8 months after release which is definitely quick but not completely crazy.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] RMXO:
That is sick! When can I pre-order? I know it's gonna be a while but I had to ask. :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SlimDan22:
Uhhhh you cant, it doesn't exist yet
[Eee Pad Transformer General] str4t:
Let me get the tegra 2 first..

hopefully they learn by the time that's released with what happened with the first TF
[Eee Pad Transformer General] donatom3:
I guess I'm doomed to buy a Tegra Device every year :D. Got a Tegra 1 Device, had 2 Tegra 2 devices, sold one, and now will have to buy a Tegra 3 next year.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] waqas.sonic:
this market should be called FMCG, but that's how it is these days the good thing is the OS would be uniform so we won't be forced to buy a new one although hardware performance is a different issue.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] redshirt72:
For the grand launch they'll probably have a thousand for the entire planet. Have to wait til June for my B&H TF101 preordered on Apr 27th. May cancel and just wait for a superman chip tablet with no video compromises and a less buggy version of Honeycomb.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] deymayor:
This is why Apple is far ahead of the competition right now. You needcto make sure that whatever you're selling now is the latest and greatest. Don't make the consumers think that they should hold back and wait for the next one. By releasing this info, some potential buyers may just wait for the next offering and with the shortage on the transformer, it makes it a lot easier to hold on to that $400 for now.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] DKYang:
Might wanna take a look at that Samsung dual core processor. Forget what it's called, but if it's similar to the Hummingbird processor, it should have no problems and play any type of videos like a champ.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] keroppilee:
I wonder how many other companies are working on Tegra 3 tablets....

Im not sure if the issues I'm seeing in the xoom (poor youtube playback framerates, occasional slowdowns) would be fixed with the new hardware or if it will be fixed when google gets around to patching Honeycomb. Either way I think it's to my advantage to wait. If the hardware is the issue Ill buy a tegra 3 tablet. If the software is the issue then the newer tegra 3 tablets will drive price down on the tegra 2 tablets and I can just buy the older model for less.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] andrew53517:
I think honeycomb was rushed. Look at Apple (ugh), everything runs amazing on a 1 ghz Ipad! Then they throw in dual core and it flys! We need better optimized software and then it'll be even better. Tegra 3 will without a doubt be better than tegra 2. But better software will help so much. Give it time. Tegra 2 chips should be able to make these tablets amazing. No excuses.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] evilPERSOn2009:
Problem with the Tegra 2 SoC is the GPU, the CPU speed is irreverent.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Magnesus:
I'd for one prefer 5x faster CPU in Tegra3 not GPU. But I could be alone in this. ;) 4 cores should work much better than 2 though even if they are the same.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dscline:
At this stage in the tablet game, it doesn't matter much when they released their last version. What matters is: what are your competitors doing? If Tegra3 is available in time for everyone else to have a Tegra3 based tablet, then it would be stupid of Asus to NOT have one as well. Because the current Transformer is not going to sell against everyone else's Tegra3, without serious discounting.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SonicTab:
3.1 is out for the limited edition Samsung 10.1 in two weeks.

Hopefully for the transformer too,

we well then see if its ever going to overcome the lag and video issues.

I think it will not quite, Tegra 3 will be needed to get iPad like UI smoothness.

The current transformer despite its great screen and design runs second to a netbook in many ways.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] rdnetto:
I hope they increase the RAM too - the Transformer only has 768 MB (the other 256 are used for graphics). Right now it just meets the minimum requirements for Ubuntu and runs somewhat slowly, but push it up a bit and it'd run swimmingly...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] smiler51:
and i just got my transfromer... :( I would think with a bit better software, the Tegra 2 could be pushed a bit more.

At least my Prime ROM is running well!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] player911:
Fu. I just got this one.

Asus Transformer 3.1 pwnd

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[Eee Pad Transformer General] Shaquiel Harris:
so, im assuming there isn't a reason in buying this then?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] EP2008:
Man do companies know how to market this stuff.

What do we need a processor that is 5x faster for? There are no games on the horizon that need that kind of power and you certainly don't need tegra 3 for the 100 or so honeycomb apps out there. Apps load instantly for me at the moment and app developers will not support a platform that holds 1% of the android market. The tegra 2 optimized apps are laughable at best and total may a dozen or so.... Tegra 3 will likely have less...

Maybe it will play video at 5fps instead of 1fps? Will it still give SOD problems?

ASUS should focus on perfecting tegra 2 before messing around with tegra 3.