yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Astromech:
OK, so that addresses the second point, of the likelihood and/or timing of rooting.

But does that second point then serve as the answer for the first point? Is it because the dev community didn't (I assume) have the Dinc2 ahead of time to fiddle with and therefore will not root for a while that we do not foresee much dev support for the phone? From my layman's perspective it seems like it would just produce a delay, and that we might not see a root for a couple or three months while people search for a way to get around it and then we'd see dev activity pick up - as opposed to everybody just skipping this one. Is there something about product cycles that says if you don't have it in advance, it's unlikely to happen? Not challenging here, trying to understand how it works, particularly since I just returned the Bolt for the Dinc2.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] voiceofid:
Wife has a Tbolt, I have a DInc2

This is much more nimble than her tbolt, and the screen is nicer.

As for the 4G arguement, yeah she gets 16mb-22mbps but she is rarely on it and when she is, the battery goes down the drain.

i get between 1.3mb-2.2mbps on my dinc2 and hasn't missed having 4g, and my phone last me about 2 days.

as for the root part, all i can do is try to help anyway i can, because after years of trying to catch up with the latest and greatest, this inc2 has everything i want/need atm
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sixteen2nd:
This is my feeling too. It goes along the same lines as people with high-speed internet paying extra to go from 5MB/s to 15MB/s, is it really worth it? For the most part you are at the mercy of the speed at which servers offer up the data. For the most part they are capped way below 16MB/s, and you almost never find a server offering data up at more than 2MB/s (at least for the types of data you would be using on your phone, I don't suspect people will be downloading 6GB movie files on their phone). I'll stick with 3G and save battery life.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ACD168:
Seeing as your a coding genius.. do u have access to a Verison Inc2, I'd be willing to get the XTC-clip to you to try and S-OFF...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jcase:
Having it in advance really did not do much for us other than let us get familiar with it.

Sent from LG Nexus Prime
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jcase:
I'm not a coding genius at all, infant far from it. I do it have on, and have no reason to get one. The cyclical clip is useless until they provide some sort of support for it.

Sent from LG Nexus Prime
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Astromech:
So is the answer to the original question(s) then that because you guys had the old firmware and other things for the Tbolt, that's the only reason you were able to get around the bootloader (and/or other obstacles) and therefore have the good amount of dev support you've got? And so since nobody (I gather) has those kinds of things for the Dinc2, we should not expect root unless somebody comes up with some new trick, and therefore devs would have no reason to congregate around the Dinc2 prior to that point? Not trying to put words in your mouth here - trying to make sure I understand the ones that are already there as I try to figure out why there is not likely to be much dev support for this phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jcase:
A new method, or a way to use an older method must come about.

Devs flock to devices that they can dev on, until then they have little reason to get one (unless they are trying to root)

Sent from LG Nexus Prime
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nazo0:
man, i'm having the same problem...i had the singed up with verizon prior to the TB so i got the lame ass itrash4 (coming off a few android phones) i returned the TB cause it was too big and the horrible battery life..plus it was sending double texts, go figure. I'm using the iphone again but i can't stand this junk and really want to go back to android but i can't see myself using the TB..prolly going to end up w/ the incredible2. I was just wondering...if the droid X can run the ruu from the TB and get LTE on it, can't the incred2? either way LTE doesn't really make a difference to me, I'm always connected to wifi at home and at the office, but just having that kind of speed in your pocket is kind of cool when you think about it :) surely wouldn't hurt to have it
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
did you really just ask if a motorola phone could "run the ruu from the TB and get LTE on it"? there is so much fail in that if you arent joking

so sure that secret LTE radio hidden in the droid x magically becomes enabled when you somehow flash htc software onto a moto phone...have at it
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Hellzya:
Funniest thing I've read all morning hahaha.

sent from a tower
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nazo0:
Lol I'm only saying what I've seen done..I saw the thread I'll post it when I get a chance
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
Its impossible and pretty funny
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dco717:
Nitsuj I used ur themes on my old fascinate and enjoyed the support, are you gonna support this phone? In any way??

sent using my droid incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dco717:
For people asking why we didn't get a TB or charge, well my point of view is I had a galaxy s fascinate and will probably never buy anything Samsung again! And the TB well it has the screen and 4g but not in my location and well it sounds like too many battery problems being a power user I would have to stay by a Plug 24/7

sent using my droid incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
thanks but:o

-i have no plans to purchase the phone

-need permaroot and recovery for themes

-sense isnt something that you can theme easily without a phone in front of you...htc resources is a real pain....i can theme like the continuum or charge because virtually everything framework wise is in the same places
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] khanam:
We have both. Inc 2 will be wife's phone as soon as contract with AT&T is over. It honestly is better constructed than the bolt, which is big, has many physical defects, but is rooted, and has a nice big dev community. But my wife does not care about root or 4g speeds. A smaller device which can just about fit into her hands (the bolt just about fits into mine and I'm 6 ft, she is 5'4" ) with a sim card slot for when she goes back to visit her parents is really all she needs. So even if this has a locked boot loader, this will sell like the droid x did. It's very sleek. Feels perfect in the hand.

Sent from my thunderbolt
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] deficitism:
So I've been lurking both communities. I'm due for an upgrade from the inc 1. Yesterday, I went to verizon and picked up a thunderbolt to give it a good 14 days. Rooted, security flags off, good developer community. Phone works well. No issues.

Here's why I

won't

be keeping it. (This could change, only had it for a day now)

1- The phone is too heavy. I don't care what you throw back at me. This thing is a pain in the ass to hold. I literally get a bit of a forearm workout when laying on my back and looking at it.

2- The phone is too big. If you plan on 'one-handing' this thing, think again. There is no way single-handedly tap the app drawer button while holding it in your hand. (without adjusting the whole thing, which requires use of your other hand. too slippery to adjust with just your one hand.) Now there is nothing wrong with a 4.3 inch display. However, when you factor in the thickness of the device, its not single-hand friendly at all. The evo pushed the limits. The thunderbolt went too far. Yes I know the 4g radio adds girth.

3- Idiotic design flaws. USB-good... kickstand-great... USB port positioned so you cannot charge while kick-standing- WTF? Power button on the top-right? Was this phone designed for lefties? I almost get a finger cramp trying to tap the power button.

...I won't mention software/radio issues. I'm sure those will get worked out at some point. Battery life is fine. Just a tiny bit worse than the dinc1.

I think I'll get a dinc2 after my 14 days. (wife already has one) Really is a sexy good feeling phone. Highly underrated. Hopefully we can remove it's write protection.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dco717:
I'm sure you can easily get one nitsuj

sent using my droid incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Sub-Standard:
I am trying to keep myself from jumping on a free dinc2.

The contract on my primary line has been expired since march, & my Moto Droid is on it's last leg (screen is sometimes unresponsive or jumps around, app drawer freezes up, & twice now it has randomly rebooted it's self while in use. When I turned it back on all of my contacts & text messeges were permenantly deleted). Put shortly, I NEED a new phone.

I received a third party promotional email Thursday for a free incredible 2 after mail in rebate. I need a new device, but I think I would rather pay $170ish for a thunderbolt over a free incredible 2. It's just not much of a comparison to me... 4G speeds on a mobile device + a bigger screen + permaroot. The only issues I've heard of are with battery life on some tbs, but different roms have made those issues pretty much non-existing.

As much as I need a new phone, I am just hesitant to make a two year commitment one of these current phones with all of the upcoming models just around the corner.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] chardie26:
I have the Tbold and Inc2 and with the area I live in my 4G is a little skechy so my Tbold was always looking for 4G which drained battery in about half a day so I rooted it with Das Bamf now i am able to shut 4G off completely and just use 3G. Now that battery life seems to be Alot better but nothing in comparison with my Inc2 i have now. I would say i can get at least 4 to 5 more hours off my Inc2. On the down side my Inc2 doesnt have the power my Tbold had but im willing to let that slide with the 4 to 5 hours more battery life.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
The SoC used in the Tbolt and I2 only differs by the radio technology (Tbolt SoC is I2 SoC but with LTE stuff thrown in). The CPU core and GPU core is the same. They are essentially equally powerful ;)

You can disable 4G without root on the Tbolt. A couple of my friends have Tbolts, neither use root, and both have 4G disabled when not needed for some extra battery life.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] H-Man 38:
When you break you glass screen for the evo and have t.s.p. insurance, I think its called that .. thought it was 35 $ to fix.Sprint telling me 100$

Thanks,
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rugedraw:
Sprint doesn't fix the broken screens for $35 anymore. They did that for a month or two and then stopped. $100 is your deductible to get your phone replaced via Asurion (the company that insures your phone).
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sitlet:
IF you have insurance on the phone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] H-Man 38:
Thank..my luck its a 100,could be worse i guese if I didn't have insurance at all..

Thanks again
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Khilbron:
Its cheaper if you don't use insurance, but you gotta buy the parts and install them yourself. So it's a double-edged sword.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erik077:
If I ever drop my phone I will get replacement for phone not screen only. Reason - had situation in past when dropped phone and board get damaged after which phone start having reception issues. Does anyone think about possibility that something else may be damaged too and you wont know until you pay those $100 for screen? But again that's just me.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] massivebasset:
I had my phone fixed (broken glass) by a sprint store, no insurance, for $35 on April 5th.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamantypants:
$100 just for a screen? That's nuts. That's the amount I payed for my phone when it was on sale.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sunsparc:
Screens can still be repaired for $35 if you do not have insurance, but it is a ONE TIME COURTESY. We only do it for customers we know absolutely need their phone and do not have time to wait on one backordered from Asurion.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rugedraw:
Really? The repair center I went to when this happened under 2 months ago straight up that they couldn't touch or even look at a phone that had any signs of physical damage.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lookout4theyeti:
Technically if the evo has less than 2 cracks that are less than 2" we can fix or replace for the $35 (free if you have TEP)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] H-Man 38:
The screen is done.cracks everywhere..thanks for all the info..

Phone was old and worn anyway with power button crack light leaking out from the side of it..

Other Evo here in three days upgrade in January, can't wait for new Evo 3d..
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrish03:
I got my digitizer replaced today for free.....I do have t.e.p. They didn't mess with it being rooted either, but he did look at the honeycomb boot screen weird!
[Desire General] Spin Dr Wolf:
I was wondering if the HTC dialler has been pulled out from a Sense ROM, and whether it would work with CM7 ? Or would it get b0rked because of the lack of Sense, friendstream stuff, and having no 'Sense contacts' etc ?

I ask as i'm running CM7, but don't really like the stock dialler (no T9 search through contacts), or Dialler One as i'm using now. Although Dialler One seems to be the best alternative i have found so far. So if anyone has any other 3rd party developed options i'm open to suggestions. :)
[Desire General] J0uns:
The HTC-Dialler won't work, because it needs the sense-libraries.

but you can find many alternatives, such as Dialer2 (https://market.android.com/details?id=org.dnaq.dialer2&feature=search_result).

or just take a short look here
[Desire General] Spin Dr Wolf:
Bah, thought that would be the case, but would ask just in case. Oh well i'll have to keep trying alternatives then.
[Desire General] erklat:
T9 dialer being only one feature of all built in awesomeness which Sense holds under the 'hood'. Although I do not use HTC widgets, those little things are the reason I rarely manage to stick with aosp for long.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] execsupport:
Hi,

I recently dropped my i9023 and smashed the glass.

Bought a new screen with digitizer from global direct parts (www globaldirectparts com/Samsung-GT-I9023-LCD-and-Digitizer-Assembly-p/smsng6102150.htm)

Having put the new screen in it boots up fine and displays perfectly but the touch screen is not working at all and I can't do anything. If I put my smashed screen back in touch input works fine.

I've flashed back to stock I9023XXKB3 and I9023XXKB1 firmware, but nothing seems to help.

The ribbon to the screen doesn't appear to be damaged and because global direct parts had a minimum purchase of 2 I have 2 new ones and they are both unresponsive.

Anyone have any ideas?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cgi:
My first idea would be to have the manufacturer fix it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markread644:
Sorry you are having trouble getting the touch screen to respond. I too have cracked my screen and would be very interested in your strip down and replacement steps as I am going to be doing the same. If you get time, could you write down your steps. There is a pretty good teardown at

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-S-Teardown/4365/1

but I am not confident of the last bit of using a heat gun to separate the screen from the frame. Did yours come off easy ?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] execsupport:
Yes I could have sent it to an authorized repairer but I would of been without the phone for a a while and it would cost twice as much. Plus I like pulling things apart.

markread544 - I pretty much followed the ifixit guide. however when pulling out the motherboard make sure the front and rear cameras and speaker are loose as well otherwise it wont come out.

I didn't use a heat gun, I just applied pressure until it started to lift, it would of definitely been easier if it had been warmed up but I didn't want to use a heat gun either. You would want to use an adjustable heat one on low if you did, I think a hair dryer would work as well.

I pulled mine a bit further apart then they did, the grey part in the attached pic comes off as well which makes it easier to get the screen out of the front bezel which it is also glued to.

Phone is back together at the moment with the cracked screen but I'll take some photos if I pull it apart again.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LaJague:
same problem here.

i bought an lcd on ebay for i9023 (slcd)

display OK , but no tactil response.

i had MP the OP but still no answer.

if you have any suggestion

thanks
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chekun11:
how much for the screen? seems that 9023 is cheaper than 9020
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LaJague:
80 euros for the less expensive , about 120-150 for the others
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] execsupport:
I ended up returning the screens from global direct parts and after about a month they gave me a refund.

After being quoted AU $250to get the screen replaced by an authorized repairer I decided to try again and bought a replacement screen on eBay from a seller called stream_beautiful for $86.

Got it today, installed and it works perfectly. No idea why the original screens from global direct didn't work.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hitmannumber47:
I'm sorry to bump such an old thread, but I was wondering if there was any more information on this issue... I ordered an i9023 screen to repair a friend's phone about 2 months ago and had the same issue as the OP with it; touch input didn't work. I then contacted the seller (forceviewer on aliexpress) and he told me he'd replace it. After sending it back I then had to contact him again and send him pictures of the back of the old screen (with which touch input still works) because according to him there are 2 versions. Now I received the second screen a week ago and lo and behold, it exhibited the same problems. I noticed a number on the back of the screen is different, and the atmel IC (which I assume handles the digitizer input) has a different number on it too, however the seller has now adopted the position that it is definitely the correct display (quote: "If the pictures is right

The item will be right

I just send you the one same with your picturs

There are only two version.

Thanks")

Can anyone shed some light on what causes this? I know the guy's company tests their displays before sending them out, so that's probably not the problem, and receiving 2 faulty units in a row would be a bit weird, so I guess there's actually multiple versions (with a different digitizer controller IC?) which aren't compatible with each other... How do I make sure I'm getting the right one for my friend's phone? And, optionally, how would I go about convincing the seller to take this one back too and send me one that really works?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnieau:
I'm having exactly the same issue...two replacement screens and touch input non responsive, re-install original and hey presto no problem...what I have noticed is that the part number on what I assume is the digitizer is different...

original -> KJ00423-101228-P00-7F-1

replacement -> KJ00423-101228-P00-5F-1
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hitmannumber47:
Yeah, my replacement says 6F-1 at the end, I can't check the original right now because my friend has his phone, but I'm willing to bet it doesn't say the same. Maybe I can make my case with this with the vendor, I'd really hate to have to buy another one of these displays for nothing
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astritm:
Guys,

It's the third SLCD screen that one of my fried is replacing to my I9023 Nexus S, and none of them is working. Yesterday he told me that when he bough the third one, the seller told him to "reprogram" the phone, because the drivers for new SLCD will be installed only then.

To be honest I didn't quite understood him, so, I though that the seller means to flash with a ROM. I did that, I installed CyanogenMod 9, everything went fine, but the touch still not working :(.

Does anyone knows how the phone could be completely wiped. Meaning everything what is in it to be reinstalled from the beginning....

I don't know what else to do, besides to buy a new phone :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astritm:
Hi All,

Just want to ask if anyone came to the solution yet ...?

Cheers,
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htcmagic1:
no touch

Hello

i have the same problem:

1. The display works

2. But no touch reaction

i had bought a new screen for my I 9023 .

thanks for solutions
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KLoNe1:
Yep, I have the same problem.

Original: KJ00423-101216-P00-1F-1

Replacement: (Not responding to touch): KJ00423-110207-P00-1F1

eBay Seller: mike410512
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KLoNe1:
Bump - anyone sort this issue out?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedijos:
I know this is an old thread, but since I have a shattered SLCD screen and i'm willing to replace it, i'd like to know what to do in case there's no touch response...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sinphild:
To get touch input again

Hi all,

I have smashed my phone screen twice on my S3 i9300. The first time I had the issue with the touch screen not detecting input but displaying correctly, I had taken it to an authorised repair centre and initially they did not know what was wrong.

There is only one way to "fix" this situation. You must remove the custom recovery and then reflash your phone with the stock samsung rom. Flashing the stock rom with stock recovery should pose no problem as it will be "official" and thus not blocked by stock recovery.

After reflashing, you must do a factory wipe + data reset. This is where you change your screen, making sure not to boot the phone for "the first time". If it does not work, repeat the reflash + factory wipe and try again.

The samsung rom will register the new hardware profile, and touch input will work. Why it works this way is beyond me, but taking these steps when changing the screen on a custom rom will ensure that the touch input works. Perhaps custom roms "borrow" drivers left over from stock rom? I don't know.

You can back up your current rom and restore after messing around with the samsung stock rom and you have gotten your touch screen working properly.

I have tried a whole heap of different "solutions" with this problem and this is the only one that works, and if you are taking it to a repair centre, make them aware that you have a custom rom installed.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spanusorin2005:
Change screen

Did anybody else use this way?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kriout:
UP ..

i'm going to buy a screen + digitizer and i would have some advice about this, what code should i look ??? there are only two kind of screen or more ? what should i ask to the seller ???
[Droid X General] kjjb0204:
I have a Droid Pro, but this device gets no love on any forums, and I'm thinking the procedure might be the same for most Moto devices. When a call ends, there is an annoying tone that plays. If I'm on speaker, it's really quite loud. Is there a sound file I can remove or rename through Root Explorer that will eliminate that tone? I've already used RE to rename the boot DROID sound - hoping someone knowledgeable with Moto Android devices in general might be able to assist.

Thanks in advance!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] venomio:
Hey guys,

Could someone please tell me if there's Korean as one of the languages? I'm going to try and put one of those three ROMs on my gf's Cappy (and mine), and she prefers Korean.

Cheers!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quarlow:
Not if it should be listed as "Korean" there is only one "K" language option: Kazakh.

Sent from my Captivate running GR-12
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slow_DC4:
Its on GR11, don't know about GR12, but I would assume that it would still have it. Its the last option.

Sent from 234 Elm Street