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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
No, the GB Bootloaders are NOT included in any Nightly nor will they be, they are totally untested and unsupported by TeamHacksung or TeamDouche. If you wish to flash them then you are deviating from established practice...therefore you are on your own Sonny Jim.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
Ah good...No, they are not in any way, shape or form Official, some people just prefer them. Me, I prefer my SGS CM7 the way God intended it to be...Froyo Bootloaded, buck naked and sassy as hell, sucking up battery like a gopher eating hot dogs.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Gibbz1:
im stil having the intermittent SD card issue, it seems to be random, im using poweramp.

What happens is i can access my sd card, then randomly it wont work, like it unmounts, so rebooting always fixes it, but its rather annoying!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] oaia:
Thanks rschenck, you are the man!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dcarr622:
Just flashed #70, all is good, will be monitoring battery.

I don't think I'm crazy, but I have been observing really odd battery beharior over the past few weeks. I'll get 30-36 hours on one charge, then like 12 hours on the next charge, and this repeats in cycles. I have yet to be examined by a physiatrist, but I'm curious if anyone else has gotten anything like this ever lol

I hadn't run Quadrant in ages, but I ran it and was impressed to see that it repeatably gets over 2000 which I find quite impressive. Not to mention the phone feels great, which is most important. If only we had a teeny more RAM, I still get bogged down during heavy browser & app sessions.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
I have never heard of a problem like this before....it sounds like a hardware issue to me.

Are you sure it isn't a dying SD card? Have you tried with a different MicroSD card?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Necrolust:
Just flashed #70 and started getting FCs everywhere and SMS's won't send, but I can call.

Flashed the same way I've flashed every nightly since #1.

Any ideas? :( Can't get my phone to work properly, tried going back to #67. Now trying #57

:( :( :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
Did you try fixing permissions before flashing to previous Nightlies?

As a rule of thumb, flashing to an older nightly before fully investigating a problem and trying different solutions rarely works...whatever is causing the problem tends to follow you unless you do a full data wipe and then reinstall. Also, if you have already flashed another Nightly we can't do much to help you (and by extension all users who depend on this sort of information) sort out what the problem was.

Remember, by flashing a Nightly you are basically signing on as a beta tester....so please help all of us here at Aperture Science by testing responsibly, accurately and not dying in such a manner that we cannot analyze your remains.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Necrolust:
What I did was fix permissions then rebooted back into #70. No go.

So i flashed back to 67 as well as doing a cache and dalvik cache wipe.

Argh, trying some more **** right now
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mermigas:
Thanks CM7 team for #70 and 2.3.5 .

Flashed and works nicely so far.

I will monitor battery life closely.

PS Also thanks for skipping the tricky #69:p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Necrolust:
Does formatting system make me lose my ****?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
Formatting /system does not touch user data.

Sh#t losing begins when you format /data and /datadata.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TettZor:
Been using n70 for 8.5 hours now. Pulled an allnighter (for science). Battery is definitely better than before, especially when using 3g and turbo 3g.

Overall the build feels quite solid and snappy.

Give the buildbot a treat and a pat on the head from me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] saszseb:
Gingerbread bootloader: your external SD card is lost, and battery consumption is zero (idle).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kobik77:
Let's not exaggerate here.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] melorib:
With #68, hope #70 is at least as good... ;)

#70 installed without problems 2.3.5 loogs good, thanks...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Joans:
I'm running CM7 with GB bootloaders at the moment, but I'd like my external SD back. Are there any Froyo bootloaders floating around without kernels in, or am I going to have to start from scratch?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] melorib:
Google EZboot-Froyo-1.0.tar
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Necrolust:
Bit the bullet and flashed a month old backup. All is well now on 70
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kobik77:
Do you want the guy to bust his phone?

These bootloaders contains kernel.

Please check yourself before posting this kinda stuff.

Joans, don't flash them if I wasn't clear.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Joans:
Don't worry, I haven't. Can I flash this, then just reflash the latest nightly (or even just another CM kernel) or would I have to start again and restore all my data?

I tried removing the kernel image from the tar, but Odin just hangs while flashing the file.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] melorib:
I dont know what is your problem, all he has to do is flash the nightly again, nothing busted, apps stay put... :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kobik77:
I have no problem.

Try it for yourself and let us know if it worked that way, OK? :cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] k9nadav:
Hi There,

your screen shot looks to good to be true, please advice if you are using the standard kernel, the one that comes with CM70 Nightly, and if you have any other special configuration...

Thanks, :cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tb5...:
70 is working beautifully

:)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] prembox:
Too good to be true but the screenshot aint giving the complete usage stats i.e. post the screenshot after clicking on the graph at the top of the screen...that way a proper conclusion can be reached...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Joans:
Hmm...

Flash EZboot-Froyo-1.0.tar.md5 in Odin (with Auto Reboot unchecked)

Pull battery, boot to recovery.

At this point, it wouldn't let me flash the nightly, so I flashed the Fugu kernel instead.

Reboot to recovery again (I think this is where I went wrong because I chose the reboot recovery option from the Speedmod kernel recovery)

Flash latest nightly

Reboot - phone keeps booting into recovery.

Take 2:

Flash bootloader in Odin

Pull battery, boot to recovery

Flash Fugu kernel

Pull battery, boot to recovery

Flash nightly, reboot.

Nope, still just boots to recovery.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
This is one of the reasons I advise against messing with the bootloaders...they are strange and persnickety things.

If I were you at this point I would go back, flash the Froyo Tar with Bootloaders using Odin and reinstall CM7.

Shortcuts are great...but too often they tend to cut you short.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] melorib:
That is exactely what I did to change from JVQ to CM7 not long ago... :cool:

I dont know why people remove battery without need, just press power button, or 3 button long enough... :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Red_Vex:
Put in charge tonight with #70 and today the phone was power off. It seem sleep of death 'cause my friend say that phone just ringing regulary.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] melorib:
CM7 standard kernel, this was still with nightly #68...

As I said many times bebore, I switch off 3G and Wifi when I dont need...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Joans:
That's what I'm doing.

It's just that I've got some Gingerbread bootloaders, that are just that, so I can flash them with odin with no problems. Going back to my original question, does anyone have a Froyo bootloader file that is just the bootloaders (no kernel)?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] StephenC82:
What does the GRJ90 stand for and how come it cahnged from GRJ22 ?

Should the thread title be changed ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] saszseb:
From 23.00 till 6.00 the battery consumption was zero with me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] saszseb:
I have Froyo_XXJPU. This contains bootloader. You can flash it using Heimdall.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] frauhottelmann:
It's just the new version number that the Nexus phones get with an update, nothing important...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Joans:
*sobs*

I don't want something containing the bootloader. I already have a full Froyo rom, and Froyo bootloaders + kernel. All I want (or wanted) was a file containing just the bootloaders, so I could switch between GB and Froyo bootloaders with ease.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edint3000:
Im searching for CWM method, if there is one... sadly my usb got broken and i cant flash it with odin, cant find solution for this one.

Thanx anyway
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
To the best of my knowledge CWM can't be used to flash the bootloaders...you need to do it from download mode, therefore using Odin or Heimdall.

A very Norse solution, but I don't think there is any other option.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sago62:
I do not understand why complicate life with bootloader gb ... cm7 works well ... I have everything stock and it works! if you can use the bootloader gb, the dev would do ....;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] melorib:
Exactely... :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kevin2516:
It's because we can and because we want to :p, and there's nothing wrong with them so far, so if you do it, then who cares, it's your decision. :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] chrome6boy:
Some guys have found a better battery life with GB bootloaders (while wearing silk pants) which is why they use it.

However SD cards don't work with this GB bootloader which is why most of us who need to use their SD cards stay away from it.

Its simply a matter of priorities.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Bhonka:
Battery life seems really good so far. On JVO :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Arkanius:
Battery Life has been on Stock Samsung levels with the latest updates and JVO in my opinion

According to the latest tweets, bilboa1 has managed to hack the libcamera to give us Video support in Google Talk :)

Perfect!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] armanderli:
Indeed,I guess the major issues have been fixed in CM7 even the 720p recordin' is functional in the last nightly to come....Only the AVI/MKV hd playback to go

besides,I have definitely adipted the baby as mine
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] FuzionNL:
Ì'm encountering an issue when trying to install this :).

First I tried installing from Boz's MIUI RC7, then from a clean install of JM2 (2.1)

Both reported an error with the build.prop when trying to install through CWM
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] nunosilva10:
Why my sdcard doesn't work ? i was on 2.2....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Candanga:
where do I find these? I tried here and didn't see them:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/teamhacksung/files/galaxys/

Are these compatible with CM7?

Thnx
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Bhonka:
With the default camera app? I'm only getting 480p recording.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Arkanius:
Is it not on /mnt/emmc ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bilboa1:
the nightly with 720p has not been released yet - soon

also gtalk video will be fixed in the next nightly :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] armanderli:
not yet release wait a little bit
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] efegue:
He said: "in the last nightly to come"
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] robbiev80:
Awesome to hear that 720p recording is coming soon!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] eRajesh:
There still needs to be some battery life improvements. My phone had around 20% charge, but it died overnight. On JVO modem, using juice defender.

I am on phone right now. Will post some screenshots later on.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] er1cha:
Here is what i use to get my modems...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13255850&postcount=4
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] robbiev80:
Considering the title of that page is "CyanogenMod 7 for Samsung Galaxy S", I think it's safe to say that YES...they are compatible with CM7.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Necrolust:
Just typing my 2 cents for anyone else who is wondering whether or not to try CM7.

DO IT.

Its so ****ing fast! My only gripe is the battery life but I am willing to stick with it until the improvements come. In fact, I might even make a donation and I've only been running it for 2 days!

Currently using zach's kernel with some UV action and will run it like this for a few days to see what the battery life is. But TBH, I don't think I even care, its just too damn fast!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] blazingcaloy:
how do you do a screenshot? i cant seem to do it now that i am on cm7 :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kobik77:
Use shootme from the market
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Bess833:
Since the latest nightly, the battery life is just fantastic (for me it's almost like on stock Samsung roms). I'm using JVE modem. Let it settle a day or two after flashing and you'll see, it's quite amazing.

Have to agree, everyone should go for it :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mi3lp0ps:
Hi,

I don't read all of the thread but i have a question.

I am the only one who have big problem with my GPS ?

When i try it last saturday in Paris, i'm lost with that !

That is front of me is behind on my GPS ! so it's a very bad problem !

I'm the only one or their are others with that ?

thanks,
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] PJF16:
When you only want to flash the Bootloaders search for EzBoot ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
As I have said around a dozen times so far....the concept that it is just a matter of Battery Life vs SD Card is an oversimplification and VERY misleading for new CM7 users.

Some people have had better battery life while idle with the GB bootloaders, that is accepted. However we are not fully aware of what besides the SD Card is messed up with GB Bootloaders and the Devs have warned against strange behavior. Also some have reported that WiFi uses more power with these bootloaders. The long and short of it is that you are running CM7 using unsupported bootloaders, against the recommendation of the developers. That is your prerogative, but don't tell less experienced users that it is a simple matter of losing the sd card to reach the golden land of massive battery life.

As poor Joans has been discovering, one messes about with bootloaders at the peril of your immortal soul, and once you flash the GB bootloaders, as with so many temptations, there is no easy way to go back.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sago62:
I think that if I want long battery life .... use other rom!

like buying a Ferrari and say that it consumes .:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Red_Vex:
I've a bug with the market now with cm7 that have also on Darky Rom 10.1.

Sometimes market show me only paid apps while those free not.

I've to clear data 2 times. With one not work.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
Are you using the new market?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] chrome6boy:
You are right, perhaps the explanation was over simplified. But flashing a full GB rom with a bootloader is not really unsafe is it, its only when you flash a stand alone bootloader to avoid a full wipe.

Also I'm yet to hear one of our forum members complain about any real disaster related to running CM7 with a GB bootloader (especially when a full ROM with bootloader is flashed).

But I'm no expert and I'll refrain from simply stating it is a case of SD vs. battery life.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] melorib:
Of course... :p

I understand doing it for the sake of research, but the noobies are being mislead, IMHO... :rolleyes:

Different kernels do have different functions that one might want...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Joans:
No harm done, I'm back up and running now (with Froyo bootloaders :) ), but as you say there appears to be no easy way back from the GB bootloaders (at least, not as easy as it is to flash them).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Karboush:
Tell us more about the "oversimplification" and what could be misleading new users. You keep warning users about that but you don't have any arguments apart frome one or 2 users having the impression that it was draining more power while using 3g or wifi.

Give us examples of strange behaviors... Facts please not 'potential' placebo strange behaviors...

Cons: Many people experienced nothing more than losing external-sd.

Pros: Idle battery consumption great improvements. With same nightly and same radio went from 2-3%/hour with froyo bootloader to less than 1%/hour with GB's

I also have the impression that 3g battery drain is less important.

Have you ever tried it yourself?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Red_Vex:
No 2.3.6
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] melorib:
I dont need to try it, my phone already consumes less then 1%/hour with Froyo bootloader... :rolleyes:

And I have SDcard working as it should... :cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Chief_Death:
Not to interfere or anything in your *discussion* but I want to inform you that froyo bootloaders doesn't drain 2-3% per hour in idle..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] greglord:
Lie. Fact.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] eeyunopper:
Looking at that, you haven't used anything, might as well turn it off, would last for ages... :D:):D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kobik77:
From my experience ( and Joans :) ) it wont work.

ODIN and CM7 doesn't like each other much, so it advised not to use ODIN while on CM7. Neither for modem and kernel flashing.

After messing around with that the only way to make CM7 work again is flashing Sasmsung's ROM using ODIN and starting all over again.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
I will be perfectly happy to tell you about the over simplification, and I am so very pleased that you asked so nicely.

As I have already made clear a few times, I am simply reiterating the warnings raised a few months ago (when it was first discovered that there could be some power advantages with the GB bootloaders). These warnings were from Codeworkx and Atinm of TeamHacksung (who have since gone off to Cuba to focus on their SGS II handsets) who stated quite directly that they would expect there to be other problems that they could not predict from using the GB Bootloaders as CM7 was designed to run with the Froyo version, and the GB Samsung Bootloaders were heavily optimized for Samsung ROMs (which CM7 is not).

Therefore, I call it an oversimplification when people pretend that it is only a matter of losing the SD card and that everyone should swap to the GB bootloaders in order to enjoy the tremendous (and unverified) power savings.

However, if you feel you can definitely assure us all that Codeworkx and Atinm were wrong and that the GB Bootloaders (despite being out of spec and untested with this software) are safe as houses for all users and no caution is needed, then feel free to drop them an email and explain that while they are on their extending vacation to parts unknown, Karboush is on the job correcting all their hysterical little over-reactions. I am sure they will be much relieved.

While you are there, do something about the video camera too, will you?

However, I still have no intention of installing the GB Bootloaders myself since my mother taught me to never anger mobs with pitchforks and torches on a school night, to always look both ways before launching missiles and to never mess with Android bootloaders without great need. Also, I am content with my power usage and need no improvement.

Call me a rebel.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] saszseb:
To switch from Gingerbread to Froyo's bootloader takes me 10 sec. (Heimdall)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Chief_Death:
First, they were speaking about *ideal* time battery usage keyword *ideal*

Second, it is up to him how to use/not use his phone.

Finally, can some1 create another topic for GB vs FROYO bootloaders ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Karboush:
So you're telling people not to do what you never experienced. Kinda logical uhu?

I know sgsteam said there *COULD* be side effects. Can you tell me more about it since you seem to know so much about everything? I don't remember reading here from people using GB bootloader other implications that external sd not working.

I would not call you a a rebel but rschenck z.l.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
Oh please, what is this, 7th grade? "How do you know you won;t like it if you never try it?"

Once more...I am expressing the fact that the Devs assumed there would be other side effects. I am not saying that they have been reported, only to use caution, and not assume that the only negative to the GB Bootloaders will be the SD card loss.

Again, this is due to the fact that CM7 was not designed to use the Samsung GB bootloaders. Therefore the behavior is unpredictable, and new users should not be told that the GB Bootloaders are just an install option "If you need the SD card, use Froyo bootloaders, if you want better battery life, use the GB Bootloaders". THAT is the oversimplification I spoke of.

Beyond that, I agree that this debate is stupid and pointless. Those who want them will use them, those who don't, won't. A new thread should be started for them, just as exists for the custom kernels, since they have nothing to do with the Nightlies.

Also, while I appreciate your addition of z.l. to my name (Of Blessed Memory), I don't happen to be dead yet...therefore what exactly did you mean by that?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] juamiso:
Hi, anynody is missing the video calls with gtalk in last night build? #70 Sorry if it had been already asked, could find anything about this.

I have gtalk 1.3

Thks for the hard good work!

Jm
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] melorib:
Some guys have nothing else to do but play with their phones, then they complaint about battery drain... :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] beekay201:
You should also tell people who are thinking about using GB bootloaders that if they want to submit "bugs", they would have to 1) flash back to froyo bootloaders and 2) if the bug still appears, report it.

Can someone test applying theme "Minimal Orange" with #70? it "factory reseted" my phone after i applied it. had to configure google account again, but all my apps were there already, and theme applied (including status bar). no problems after that so far. but then again, that could my GB bootloaders - we need that topic on CM7 nightlies with GB bl.

Still, my sgs went to sleep with 80% left at 4am, just woke up at 1pm, 78% left.