yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
@racks: Yes, just sign up for the beta program by emailing me.
[Nook Color Android Development] Colchiro:
Mine was on cassette tape. I overclocked my computer to read/write cassette 1.5x faster. :D
[Nook Color Android Development] indagroove:
Me too. Commodore 64, circa 1982.
[Nook Color Android Development] joenathane:
I made a program back in my day, which consisted of a piece of wood and we called it a "bat", to run the program you would take the "bat" and beat the person nearest to you with it... ah the good ole days.... it was a very popular program back then
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
Sense

Hate to stop the Programming Party, but this thread is about inFiniSense, not programming.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
It's OK pndo1, they can talk about their past. It's interesting.
[Nook Color Android Development] racks11479:
Request for beta testing sent to your email. Ikingblack
[Nook Color Android Development] HarleyChick:
You guys ROCK! Keep it up.
[Nook Color Android Development] stwallman:
TRS-80 Model I, Level 2 (16k RAM). I think the cassette ran at 500 baud or something like that ?

All I know is once we went to floppy drives it was like heaven compared to tape!!
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
Please people, get back on topic. This thread is not supposed to be filled with garbage.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Or programming history class.
[Nook Color Android Development] racks11479:
You might want to take a second look at your updater-script. It's mounting /boot and /system as mmcblk0p1. System on the CM7 is ext4 @ mmcblk0p5
[Nook Color Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Its ext4...
[Nook Color Android Development] racks11479:
typo :rolleyes:
[Nook Color Android Development] karimsaud21:
Holy crap i feel old and useless, and im only 17...

Care to share any insight yall have on starting to learn java? And more specifically, android/linux stuff?
[Nook Color Android Development] sigma0824:
emmc?

Is this for emmc or SD? Just flashed rc6 and nothing changed.
[Nook Color Android Development] Colchiro:
What am I missing?

Installed RC1 from link above then rebooted, then installed RC5 from email link.

No error, but don't see anything new. I'm running Launcher Pro Plus.
[Nook Color Android Development] jhnstn00:
Finally took a gander at what the HTC Flyer was.....Cool rom for you to embark on. Keep it up.
[Nook Color Android Development] racks11479:
See my post above. They are mounting /system to the wrong partition in the updater-script.

They have it as:

Should be:

You guys should've just put all the files in /system then extract_dir to mounted /system. I'm repackaging the zip now and see if it'll work. Kinda lookin forward to see what they did!

-Racks
[Nook Color Android Development] racks11479:
Ok, repackaged zip. Flashed via CWM. Rebooted.

-Bootanimaiton is not loading, sits there at a black screen until CM7 system loads up.

-I see no UI changes here.

-Checked with root explorer to see if files are in proper place. Yes they are.

Any ideas why this isn't working how it should fellas?

Thanks,

Racks
[Nook Color Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Not to be offensive, but are these just copied files, or was there actual coding involved?
[Nook Color Android Development] Namit1994:
Oh my god you guys are just 11? That is very impressive.
[Nook Color Android Development] jimgpayne:
You guys are youngsters! LOL.

My first program was in 1978 for the TRS-80 Model 1.

I'm a bona fide living fossil.... ha ha..
[Nook Color Android Development] crabnebula:
TRS-80 Model I, around the same time. :)

Looking at my Nook and smartphone. Moore's law. Wow.
[Nook Color Android Development] psychoace:
I really think you guys should study Android's system for a while before moving forward with this project. The only previous "work" I've seen you two do is make tutorials for dual booting roms which pretty much already had tutorials. I really think you guys are way over your heads right now. There is more to porting a sense rom to Nook then fixing a couple lines of code. You need to worry about drivers for video, audio, network and more which is actually harder then it sounds. This would take most experienced hackers weeks to accomplish while you guys are saying you have done it in 2 days. You've posted untested code which is an extreme risk to forum users. You could cause people to brick there tablet which cost them a fair amount of money. You are being very cryptic in your posts. First you say it's porting the apps to cm7 then you tell me you are going to just start from scratch with the flyer rom then you post again in your initial post that it's still CM7. Maybe you two should slow down and take some time to learn the ins and outs of Android first.

Also all good hackers/developers test there products before releasing them to the wild. Beta testers are for finding bugs that you couldn't catch not to see if what you did works.

Last, don't think I'm some debbie downer or something (yes I know you don't get that reference you're young got it). I never said you were incapable of doing this project. I am just trying to let you know how serious such an undertaking is and is not something a simple coder can handle. Time is on your side kids. You have plenty of time to learn.
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
You have no idea what we could accomplish. Also, along the way, we could learn Java to program the android frameworks. Ikingblack already knows some. And I have studied the android system. Please, don't think this should be done by experienced devs. We just want to learn. Even if it takes 6 months, we will get it out the door.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Guys, I can't work on it right now. i have school...
[Nook Color Android Development] crea78:
If I can put the beta on my ext. SD card, I would be happy to be a tester. Just don't want to mess up my CM7 setup.

Sent from my Rooted Atrix 4G
[Nook Color Android Development] loganthered:
Dude...you HAD to make us feel old, didn't you? :(
[Nook Color Android Development] FractalSphere:
Yeah, TRS-80, circa 1983 with a cassette loader and 32k of memory. And that was AWESOME back in the day! ;-)

I have a Nook Color running CM7 and fully support any development that adds to overall Android functionality.

Good luck, kids. Now get off my lawn! :p
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
Beta testers, I need you on google chat.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Alright, we need more beta testers. The less we have, the more time it takes to release the product.
[Nook Color Android Development] jlt220:
I don't know how many beta testers you have but i doubt you will get too many more unless you release some clear information on what you are doing and how you plan on doing it. What you are trying to do is something that many have tried in different ways and have found very difficult if they even managed to do it. While I am not saying you can't do it, those of us who have not offered up our devices for beta testers need more assurance that you know what you are doing and that you are doing it correctly. Like someone said before these devices are expensive and we don't want to be out the money. If you had a stronger reputation here you would get much more support even with the cryptic messages you put out. However given what you have posted it is hard for me to jump on board with confidence. So I wish you good luck, however I want to see proof that you know what you are doing before I offer my device. Saying you know C or have a hackingtosh does not count....

So good luck. In time this may find its way on my device.

And even if it fails hopefully you will learn a lot a long the way that you can put to other improvements of the device.
[Nook Color Android Development] luciferii:
when someone on the net says they want to put some software on my device but wont tell me what it is, is equal to having some guy with a greasy moustache in a mens room say "now close your eyes and open your mouth..".
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Alright, you guys aren't getting the point. We have made a ROM that copies HTC Frameworks, Launcher/Apps, and bootanimations to your device. Flash our ROM, and it will do that. We need testers because we fix bugs every half hour and need people to test it out so we don't release garbage to the public. On second thought, I'm releasing RC11 in a minute
[Nook Color Android Development] jlt220:
I understand what you are trying to do, I get what the end goal is, I just don't know what you are doing, if you look at any of the other DEV posts that are about doing something completely new you will see a lot of more coding information, some examples maybe and a lot more substance, maybe you are giving that information to you beta testers maybe not. for example a video of the rom thus far would convince a lot of us naysayers.

But on a side not, alpa seems to be closer to the stage you are at. though that may just be a technical point.

You are asking for beta testers but labeling you work RC#, RC stands for Release Candidate normally. Generally that means it is good enough for general use but may contain nuance bugs. While technical terms are not that important using it correctly makes others more confident.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Sorry, I just like RC. Read it as whatever you want. Pndo1 will soon post screenshots.
[Nook Color Android Development] DigitalMD:
I'll give it a try and give you some feedback. Easy enough to do a backup and restore.

Take care
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Sorry, I can't upload now. Thanks, though. I have to go. :(

P.S. I'll upload in the morning. I have to catch some Zzzzz...
[Nook Color Android Development] jlt220:
Ahh so young... He hasn't yet learned that the best work occurs just past midnight...

At least that's been my philosophy thus far in college...
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
My parents won't let me stay up, sorry. :(
[Nook Color Android Development] psychoace:
It has been 2 days since you two have said you had a beta and want to give it to testers. The first one you gave didn't even copy the files to the right partition and now you can't take the 20 minutes to upload it. Also you have not said what's working or not working in these releases. Are you even testing it on your nooks or are you giving the risky part of it to users on this board? When you don't say anything about what you're doing and then say you pulled a miracle it's easy to doubt such claims that you have real sense on the nook and not just some themed launcher or something.
[Nook Color Android Development] indagroove:
I gotta say I'm losing confidence in this project. First if all, you decline to use the latest leak I posted yesterday for you with your preference to older non-wwe Rom. Now, you don't get what rc means? What the heck?
[Nook Color Android Development] mooja:
you realize the people behind this are 11 right?
[Nook Color Android Development] indagroove:
Is that supposed to somehow bolster my confidence, or should it just make me sympathetic like when watching the special Olympics? To be honest, I don't really care if their 11 or 71, so long as the process and end result is done well. So far the process seems amature at best, so I wouldn't expect the end result to be that much better. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, just honest.
[Nook Color Android Development] Vindolanda:
Special Olympics bit made me laugh.

I would just ease my expectations, and whatever they come up with they come up with. Perhaps it usable as a stand-alone product or something that can be a foundation for another. When I was 11, I think I was more in tune with nap time or w/e, so you still have to be impressed. Even if it's nothing more than a learning exercise, there's still benefit (long-term) and maybe other devs can help.
[Nook Color Android Development] jlt220:
Beta testers do you exist? How does it work, does it work?
[Nook Color Android Development] indagroove:
Agreed.
[Nook Color Android Development] rdunseith:
Maybe you should be a little of both. I seen the determination in my 6 year old's eye's when learning to ollie on a skateboard, and kicking my butt on COD on pc and xbox. And just by watching me do CSS Html he knows the tags and what they do. I wouldn't put anything past a few 11 year olds. Just give them a chance first.
[Nook Color Android Development] bearclaw92:
I'm a beta tester, but nothing is really there... I'll fill you in after I flash their last release.
[Nook Color Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Its not a rom yet. Its just a couple files and a boot animation.
[Nook Color Android Development] liquidhaste:
Man I thought I was the only one who had half a brain that was reading this thread at first but I see that the consensus has become more what I assumed it would be day 1. Either way, if you have something make it available to the forum to disect before you have people bricking their nooks. I still think this will never work on cm7 as Ive previously stated. This stinks of ghostware to me.
[Nook Color Android Development] gbeardmore:
This is feeling like a prank to me..
[Nook Color Android Development] Salt72:
Yup. I really doubt these kids are 11, either. I laughed pretty good when the "dad" chimed in to confirm their age and ask people to give them a chance. Good stuff.:cool:
[Nook Color Android Development] toomuchgame441:
Good stuff indeed... matter of fact, I'm a "beta" tester using the OP's "RC Super Saiyan 18" alpha build.
[Nook Color Android Development] bearclaw92:
I have not actually "flashed" anything. Just peeked inside. Saw nothing of interest, I'd like to see what they come up with. I don't and never have expected a full sense rom, I dont think that a sense port will ever be in our future. I will continue to see what they've come up with. The only thing I'm really looking forward too is honeycomb source to drop.
[Nook Color Android Development] rdunseith:
This thread is only a couple days old. Relax and see what they can do. The Captivate roms came from some youngin's. And they did dome awesome work. Live a little, life is too short. Have a little fun. at least give them a notion of a chance before bashing them down.
[Nook Color Android Development] psychoace:
There is a difference between modifying a rom and reverse engineering it. Guess which one these kids are going to need to do.
[Nook Color Android Development] liquidhaste:
I hear that honeycomb source will be glorious day.
[Nook Color Android Development] Divine_Madcat:
Given what i have seen on my SDK port, and what i have used with the Xoom, it will be awesome on our Nooks. Frankly, i dont know if i believe that we WILL ever see the HC source, but that is another issue.

As for the topic at hand, I admit, i am a little torn. On one hand, any activity in the community is generally a good thing. It brings people in, gets em working together, and improves all our devices.

However, if handled unprofessionally, it can sour people's expectations of the system, and really put a damper on the whole community. I have to admit, knowing the ages of the OPs, it is a little hard to me to believe that we will see everything that is promised. Of course, kids these days are doing alot more than i was growing up at that age, so who knows.

As it is, i don't think we should put them down.. rather, level our expectations for what we will see, and go from there.
[Nook Color Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Bitta info for you. Android is open source, so is everything Google makes. I believe they have 6 months to give source.
[Nook Color Android Development] Divine_Madcat:
No, that is not correct. The kernels used by Android are GPL (which does require source posting), but Android itself is Apache, which isn't as nice. http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html Google is not required to release source code, and only cite other uses of Apache licenced code..
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Here is RC11.

Tell me if link is broken.

Don't bug us too much. We still have school/homework. My mom is about to yell at me for going on the computer before doing homework.

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/inFini Sense/InfiniSense-Ramdisk-RC11-CM7.zip?w=60acad51&dl=1
[Nook Color Android Development] Colchiro:
Here's what I get when I try to download alpha 11.

Error (403)

It seems you don't belong here! You should probably try logging in?

You can also check out our FAQ or forums and maybe you'll find what you were looking for. Or maybe you should try heading home.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Sorry. I'll fix that. :(
[Nook Color Android Development] 360Razir:
Might have been better to start this as a summer project....just sayin'.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Yeah, we should have. Plus, the link is fixed for Alpha 11
[Nook Color Android Development] Colchiro:
Links still broken.

They work for you b/c you're still logged in. :D
[Nook Color Android Development] 12paq:
Stay at it guys. Don't get discouraged by the challenges, stay encouraged by the challenges. :)
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Thanks, 12paq. :). Stupid Links....... I'll fix them.

Gotta go now. Will upload when I get home.
[Nook Color Android Development] HarleyChick:
+1 As in all science - more is learned by failure than by success.....
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Thank you. Link fixed also.
[Nook Color Android Development] jaysckap:
No its not
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
We are UNReleasing Alpha 11 as it has too many bugs.
[Nook Color Android Development] Kelthizar:
Ignore please
[Nook Color Android Development] Colchiro:
I just finished dl'ing and was getting ready to flash. :D
[Nook Color Android Development] lalleyne:
Downloaded Alpha 11, it seems to be a bunch of APK, jar, xml files and a bootanimation.zip...

Is there a series of commands that would need to be run? where is the ramdisk?
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Just flash it. And flash it if you can live with force closes every hour
[Nook Color Android Development] Kelthizar:
So it is actually kind of working already ? Just saw its just half of the size from the flyer Rom :confused:
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
Sorry! Nothing works as of now. We are working as hard as we can to finish the port.
[Nook Color Android Development] RileyGrant:
Anyone remember that one time "webOS was ported to the Hero" and everyone who flashed it was bricked... Ya....
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
Please. We removed the links because they weren't working. We are not experinced devs, so if you want good ROMS from experienced devs move on.
[Nook Color Android Development] bigbob23:
At least you are learning the steps required to become experienced devs :)

Hang in there!
[Nook Color Android Development] obsidianblackhawk:
Probably a good thing you can't brick the nook then huh?.... (research is a wonderful thing). You could mess up every flash you do for a year on this thing and so long as you can still boot to the SDCARD you can recover.

No need to unnecessarily frighten anyone wanting to try and flash this.
[Nook Color Android Development] NewZJ:
All they are missing is a screen shot on the nook of the flyer homescreen taken with a out of focus camera
[Nook Color Android Development] psychoace:
If you're releasing beta after beta for people to try does that mean your not even testing these yourself since you didn't know until afterwards it didn't work?
[Nook Color Android Development] obsidianblackhawk:
Yay here i come on the defense once again.

Do you not read to OP. Everytime these kids (no offense to the OP's) post another file they have stated right in the OP that it is still not working correctly. They are simply releasing what they have when they get to some sort of milestone.

Cut them some slack or get the hell out of here. If anybody can do better DO IT!!! OTHERWISE STFU and GTFO. A couple of 11 year olds are doing more to contribute to these forums then over half the people in this thread.

God most of you people on here make me sick. There are alot of good people in this community and it's just straight BS that people come in here and *****.

What the hell are all you naysayers doing to contribute? Not a god damn thing.

/rant over
[Nook Color Android Development] Divine_Madcat:
The only problem, is that they aren't being sought out and attacked by people. They are putting their work out there, in public forum, for us to use and judge. The fact is, none of this is ready for public consumption yet, and they really should be more mindful of what they are doing.

Perhaps this thread should be closed until something more substantial is ready for release?
[Nook Color Android Development] jaysckap:
Well said. Its really sad how much negativity there is on here these days. Its also funny how you got these people that all they do is complain about everything over and over again, like its there job. So to the haterz y'all need to take a step back and read your 20 or 30 most recent posts and maybe you'll realize you sound like an idiot.
[Nook Color Android Development] HTCF4N:
I agree with that. This thread seems to be more about drama than actual dev and arriving at a working product. Until there's something of worth to release which people can actually test or give true feedback, then what's the point besides just trying to get some attention (which kids do love).
[Nook Color Android Development] 12paq:
the point would be to learn, which also these kids seem to love.

Stay at it guys. Maybe put a BIG disclosure in the first part to the op, that this is an experiment and you're 11 etc.. Then you will only get half the crud you're getting now. Besides these dev forums, as you know, are full of trolls trying to look big by helping, so just let it roll off. And some trolls might help, like me. LOL roll eyes ..
[Nook Color Android Development] RileyGrant:
Im sorry if i came off as trolling, but at the same time, you sir, have no idea what you are talking about. Notice im the one who wrote the guide claiming the nook is nearly unbrickable and the steps to unbrick it? Ya its stickied in the general section. Just because something is nearly unbrickable does not mean it cant be bricked. A simple script that wipes the partition table on the nook or overvolts the cpu could do the trick pretty efficiently. Please do not tell me about researching. If these two people are for real, then I respect their age and wanting to learn the basics of dev work, but imho, something here smells fishy.