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[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
temasek's KANG build 204-15 coming up..............
[LG Optimus 2x] salisbury_steak:
Dude, you are on fire.

It's like we are back to nightly builds. On steroids. :p

Seriously, thanks for lending us your time and talent and bandwidth.
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
temasek's KANG build P204-15

MD5: 5c32f9c2dd72d3e2275f416d6e7f2f5e

Changelog

Merged commits up-to

Change Ic489a611: Camera: Autofocus camcorder only if needed

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#q,status:merged,n,z

Cherry-Picks

Change I875a5ba5: Ability to debug over Network (framework part)

Change I227ef11e: Add ability to debug over Network (Settings half)

Change Id3e68a75: Notification power widget mobiledata auto 2g/3g

Change I2e365a33: Notification power widget mobiledata auto 2g/3g

Change I4427e3f2: [bionic] Replace strlen() with ARMv7 optimized version

Change I6c43625d: Allow custom snooze times for calendar reminders.

Change Ia99dbdd5: Show number of pending calendar reminders.

Change Iaaf7f1c4: LGEStarRIL: Apply DST regardless of Infineon fix (PATCH #3)

Change I3a7ffd3b: Fix a possible null pointer exeption editing a contact.

Change I0f6dbe81: LockScreen Alignment: Right (Part 1/2)

Change I9962172d: LockScreen Alignment: Right (Part 2/2)

Change I5ec0b565: Dialpad: perform search when retrieving last dialled number

Change Ibef23046: Added option to use either removable SD card or internal memory

Download from:

http://www.mediafire.com/temasek

http://minus.com/temasek

Note: Above cherry pickings may not be related to your device :p

STATUS: UPz!

EDIT: Congratulations to pastime1971, your fix worked!
[LG Optimus 2x] sibbor:
I was just gonna quote you. Clicked the 'Quote' button and saw totally different text. Thought to myself "Did he just edit his post? Nah, must have clicked wrong" and headed to the previous page and hit 'Refresh'. Ha, just made an edit - you're fast [or I'm slow] :-P.

Either way: I don't want this thread to die either - and since nothing happens on the ICS front - keep up the good nightly building!
[LG Optimus 2x] thloh85:
Just had a sleep of death this morning. Anyone aware of the phone not waking up (and drained lots of battery)?

If so, what causes it? I wanna stay away from freezing up my phone...
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
*touch wood*

It's been SUPER LONG since I had a SOD.

No freezes, No black screen, nothing.
[LG Optimus 2x] thloh85:
Hmm... Guess I'm getting lucky... My first time... Just worried that it might die in the middle of a night and no alarm for me in the next morning :'(

edit: A quick one... I turned on wifi this morning, dl an app, then proceed to work without switching it off. Noticed that during drive (not a good habit), turned off the wifi using the notification and after that when I reach office it SOD'ed. I might have double clicked the wifi toggle because when I turn the phone back on, wifi is on. Probably a quick toggle on-off of wifi causes this? I'm not very sure...
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
That was one of the causes of SOD I had in past. From then I click once, if it doesn't change...I'll wait...if doesn't...I'll Reboot.....

But it rarely happen.
[LG Optimus 2x] thloh85:
I see... Is it fixed now or your currently doing the "workaround"?

It just happened to me again, this time its 3G... I turn on data, turn it off twice (notification is on lighter green, but not "off" green), then kaboom... SOD... -_-

Haha... I don't mind having this issue, just wanna be aware of it so that my phone don't SOD. If alarm don't go off, s*** happens LOL
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Which nightly build are u on?

I seriously don't have all these anymore. In fact its pretty much snappy and I'm quite satisfied with this phone atm.
[LG Optimus 2x] thloh85:
Was on your kang 204-12 when wifi SOD happened, then reverted to CM204 when 3G data SOD happened. Now on CM204...
[LG Optimus 2x] pastime1971:
Edited:

Thanks, temasek. Glad to help...
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Not sure if it is even related. What BB are u on?

Fwiw, on 824 BB = 0 SOD
[LG Optimus 2x] thloh85:
Don't think it is related to BB. Maybe 3G, but wifi? my BB is 1035.21_20110725 (is this aka 725? sorry I'm n00b, just moved over from Vibrant)

Myb I'll try newer BB...

Thanks :)
[LG Optimus 2x] pastime1971:
Just to share my experience. I do get charging BSOD quite often. Compiling kernel w/ some flags may help a bit, but not.completely. (see my kernel thread for more info.) To me it seems to happen just when charging completes, but I couldn't pinpoint the culprit yet.

Workaround is not to let phone sleep while charging, and I play music continuously. You could lower volume way down not to bother you sleeping. Alarm volume is separate, so no worry there.

As for.the other BSOD, I do get it if I toggle wifi too fast. But it doesn't go black. Just network becomes irresponsive. Bit just now it got stuck at rebooting, and I had to pull battery out. So, try not to toggle too fast repeatedly. Give it a moment to finish it.
[LG Optimus 2x] thloh85:
I don't get charging SOD, but toggling SOD does happens to me. I'll be more patient on toggling those from now on and see if that's really the root cause... :)
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Thanks!

I've edited my post.

---------- Post added at 11:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:15 AM ----------

Oops....

I wanna click QUOTE but clicked THANKS (my last thanks for the day.... no more for pastime1971 damn) :D

Yeah, patience is a virtue :)
[LG Optimus 2x] thloh85:
LOL I think you thanked me as well... Was wondering how I got the +1 in my thank meter LOL...

---------- Post added at 01:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 PM ----------

BTW,

There's no one who used the "Rotary revamped" lock screen?

In my case it doesn't "fade out while home screen fade in", the lock screen just poped off, and the lock screen poped on. I miss that eyecandy... Could someone try this out?
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
From my mediafire records, the following are the download stats for Basebands. Bear in mind, many users download several BBs.

Top 10 Popular Basebands.

1. 823 BB

2. 824 BB (SU660)

3. 725 BB, V10D

4. 725 BB, V20L

5. 606 BB

6. 218 BB

8. 622 BB

9. 502 BB

9. 530 BB

10. 405 BB
[LG Optimus 2x] Divyan:
I am not surprised. This baseband seems to "capture" signal anywhere indoor. Yours truly experienced that, and so is reported by many others in different forums.

But again it all boils down to testing the baseband - RIL combination and finding out which suits one's phone.
[LG Optimus 2x] babaandnana:
Hi temasek,

I don't know if this is an isolated case but this bug has been consistent for the past 6 kangs that I flashed (I started from 204-7) in my phone.

I cannot attach pictures to contacts coming from a storage device. It attaches pictures coming directly from camera though.

So for the mean time, I update my contacts through google contacts as suggested from my local forums which works.
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Just tested, no problem here.

I attached successful from

- camera photo taken

- gallery

- file manager
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Interestingly enough, I had pretty much zero SOD until I started using 824, then suddenly they started.
[LG Optimus 2x] m0fizor:
My O2x is made in Korea, i have 0 (ZERO) SOD with 725. I can't get any signal with 824 or 823 BBs. I tried them both with all the available RILs.
[LG Optimus 2x] unfugor:
i got pissed of by all the sods on every baseband/ril/nightly combo i tested, and i had that crazy bug where my phone showed network but in reality had none, so i set up the latest official rom and baseband (gb 2.3.5 and bb 725) and had exactly the same problems. now i have sent my unit to lg to see if they can change anything about it. i will report here if it fixed anything
[LG Optimus 2x] apolloFER:
Interesting. I thought I had a faulty phone since 823 doesn't work with my O2X. Haven't tried 824, now on 725. I thought 823 should work for everyone.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sckank:
Temasek: you're the android Santa, love your work. :) remember your hot wife too :)
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
No KANGs over Christmas Period. :p
[LG Optimus 2x] Sckank:
Well its almost as good as it gets :) (cm that is) We were almost left in the dark, but you just kept going :) Thanks from all of us :)
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
One more coming up b4 I rest for Christmas....though not a big update.
[LG Optimus 2x] Pacous:
Hi! I've tried CM in version 7.1 and had serious problems with voice/call quality. Is this already fixed? I'm considering to move from MoDaCo to CM...
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Yeah, ages ago.

Problem was with the mic volume being way to high, so it was reduced to match stock levels.
[LG Optimus 2x] Pacous:
Thank you for great news! I thought it is already solved, but just wanted to be sure before complete wipe. :-)

Which BB is the best? Read somewhere that it is 218, but it is imho quite historical version...
[LG Optimus 2x] Sckank:
I think 218 actually is really good. If I were you I would check it out. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Top 10 popular BB in my sharefolder.
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL

No more KANGs till after Christmas :p

Small update! So take it as a Christmas Gift ... :D

temasek's KANG build P204-16

MD5: 0fed71019117dfa174d332bb28bbde37

Changelog

Merged commits up-to

Change Ic489a611: Camera: Autofocus camcorder only if needed

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#q,status:merged,n,z

Cherry-Picks

Change I6368d518: Add option to lock volume keys in silent mode (framework part)

Change I055fb5f1: Ringlock (1/3): Style options added to CM settings

Change Id2e58880: Ringlock (2/3): Style options added to CM settings

Change Ieebeaeee: Ringlock (3/3): Style options added to CM settings

Change I875a5ba5: Ability to debug over Network (framework part)

Change I227ef11e: Add ability to debug over Network (Settings half)

Change Id3e68a75: Notification power widget mobiledata auto 2g/3g

Change I2e365a33: Notification power widget mobiledata auto 2g/3g

Change I4427e3f2: [bionic] Replace strlen() with ARMv7 optimized version

Change I6c43625d: Allow custom snooze times for calendar reminders.

Change Ia99dbdd5: Show number of pending calendar reminders.

Change Iaaf7f1c4: LGEStarRIL: Apply DST regardless of Infineon fix (PATCH #3)

Change I3a7ffd3b: Fix a possible null pointer exeption editing a contact.

Change I5ec0b565: Dialpad: perform search when retrieving last dialled number

Change Ibef23046: Added option to use either removable SD card or internal memory

Download from:

http://www.mediafire.com/temasek

http://minus.com/temasek

Note: Above cherry pickings may not be related to your device :p

STATUS: Upz!
[LG Optimus 2x] yukkio:
I gonna kill u! my phone is on fire!
[LG Optimus 2x] koboltzz:
I think there won't be any commits anyway till after christmas from CM-team.
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Exactly! But there is always cherry pickings ......

Once upon a time I said no cherries for me....haiz! But its a good learning process for me so that ain't bad after all.

Cheers :)
[LG Optimus 2x] oleg1981:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 16.!!!!!!
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Seems that my kang builds got "KANGed" into many foreign forums.

Hmm....

Dunno if its good or bad.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
That is a strange one, still... I'd take it as a compliment.
[LG Optimus 2x] biasquez:
Fast dormancy is enabled on cyanogen?

from Optimus 2x
[LG Optimus 2x] -Jarmo-:
Trying temasek's newest kang. Seems to be good so far.
[LG Optimus 2x] salisbury_steak:
Thanks for the 2 calendar reminder cherry picks Temasek. I love those new features.

Personally I think people kanging your kang is a good thing. At the very least, I hope they mention you in their respective OPs.

----------

Sent from my Optimus 2X
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
I like the option in camera where u can choose location to save your photos, internal or external.

Yay.
[LG Optimus 2x] oleg1981:
can you do in the next kang something with the camra? beter quality or something like that!?

:) :) just installed 16 kang. flowless!
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Sorry.

I don't code. I just compiles what in cm repo. :D
[LG Optimus 2x] markop90:
Reflashed cm7 after a long time that I was on stock-based roms....so fu**ing smooth and responsive...and a lot of issues solved...thanks to all CMteam and also to temasek for his kangs :) I'm gonna download kang #16 right now!
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Thanks for including this fix now :)

Well - then he isn't aware that some people can't use their phone without 824BB, because the other end will hear a terrible noise, I guess.

This is somehow fixed in the new v20x builds - there has to be a way.. But i have no idea how to track that down :(
[LG Optimus 2x] dakdroid:
I just reckecked:

BB/RIL 824: normal Kang from my signature, nothing cherry picked,but the miui-like battery bar.

Sound good on both ends.

I'd say: For german simyo and eplus users, this is the best bb/ril combo.

Battery:
[LG Optimus 2x] m00h:
My camera app is crashing if I try to go to the advanced settings. Here is what I get:

And then I have only the "Force Close" button. Wat do?
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Which build u using? I'm on 204-16 and I can go advanced settings of camera. I can even choose which location I want my photos, internal or external.
[LG Optimus 2x] m00h:
I'm on 204-16 either. Damn, I think I ****ed my camera app with Camera ZOOM FX app. I removed Camera ZOOM FX already, but I think that error still because of it. I also deleted data for my camera app, rebooted phone, and such stuff, but nothing helped yet. Any other suggestions?
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Wipe camera data and if necessary reflash 204-16.
[LG Optimus 2x] m00h:
Wiped the camera data, reflashed 204-16, still getting the same error. Damn, that makes me rage a little bit.
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi m00h, unfortunately I don't have your issue running Temaseks latest Kang #16. But I do want to say thank you for pointing out that there are "Advanced" options for the camera app under the Menu button. What an idiot I have been. Now I can use the volume buttons as a shutter button! Hallelujah! Praise the ANDROID god's and the many many über cool forums and users out there.

I'm sincerely sorry I can't help you with your force quit problem. I can however, wish you a merry Christmas, or a happy holiday, depending on your chosen denomination.

Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] m00h:
Haha, well, you're welcome, at least my camera issue isn't completely useless :D. Thank you and also nice holidays.
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Try fix permissions.
[LG Optimus 2x] m00h:
Ran the script, did not help :(

Thank you for your effort.
[LG Optimus 2x] lefterakos:
perfect!! 204-16.. now waiting for CM9 :D
[LG Optimus 2x] morckx:
I had the same problem with temasek's p204-16. Didn't try to find out the reason but restored my titanium backup of v -12.
[LG Optimus 2x] unfugor:
mooh i had the exact same problem, fixed it by formatting my sd card
[LG Optimus 2x] aMpeX:
I'd simply try removing the SD card and checking if the app still force closes. If that is the case, it is definately an issue with a file on SD card.
[LG Optimus 2x] m00h:
Now I did everything possible:

- Wiped anything you can wipe

- Formatted my SD card

- Reflashed 204-16 few times

But this error just won't go away :(
[LG Optimus 2x] koboltzz:
Simply use a pure KANG, temaseks 'cherry picking' may cause this problem. Try to change your camera.apk (in system/app) to a standard one from a nightly or pure Kang.

Edith: Of course mine are pure KANGs ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
I've removed one possibly culprit. 204-17 coming.

But I wonder why it worked on mine.

Or u can try koboltzz's KANG.
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Awwww, and I was thinking I didn't have to flash another one until after Christmas!:p
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Now is Christmas but I'm at work now. Bored......so.......ha :D
[LG Optimus 2x] m00h:
Finaly!!! That did the trick, thank you very much.

Also thanks to everyone who was trying to provide a solution :D

Regards
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL ....(again)

Yeah, I said no KANGs.....but whatever :p

temasek's KANG build P204-17

MD5: a52d82c974e327e635ba1dda9539f544

Changelog

Merged commits up-to

Change Icdb48dda: droid2: Add touch-to-focus

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#q,status:merged,n,z

Cherry-Picks

New - Change I85bc7836: es_ES: Add missing translations

New - Change I64f48576: getNextCalendarAlarm: query instances to get recurring events right

New - Change I6a38e9cd: camera: Add autofocus support to the media recorder

New - Change I1917ed03: camcorder: add support for manual autofocus via focus button

Change I6368d518: Add option to lock volume keys in silent mode (framework part)

Change I57d54e64: Add option to lock volume keys in silent mode (CMParts part) (PATCH #4)

Change I055fb5f1: Ringlock (1/3): Style options added to CM settings

Change Id2e58880: Ringlock (2/3): Style options added to CM settings (PATCH #2)

Change Ieebeaeee: Ringlock (3/3): Style options added to CM settings

Change I875a5ba5: Ability to debug over Network (framework part)

New - Change I227ef11e: Add ability to debug over Network (Settings half)

Change Id3e68a75: Notification power widget mobiledata auto 2g/3g (PATCH #2)

Change I2e365a33: Notification power widget mobiledata auto 2g/3g

Change I4427e3f2: [bionic] Replace strlen() with ARMv7 optimized version

Change I6c43625d: Allow custom snooze times for calendar reminders.

Change Ia99dbdd5: Show number of pending calendar reminders.

Change Iaaf7f1c4: LGEStarRIL: Apply DST regardless of Infineon fix (PATCH #3)

Change I3a7ffd3b: Fix a possible null pointer exeption editing a contact.

Change I5ec0b565: Dialpad: perform search when retrieving last dialled number

REMOVED - Change Ibef23046: Added option to use either removable SD card or internal memory

Download from:

http://www.mediafire.com/temasek

http://minus.com/temasek

Note: Above cherry pickings may not be related to your device :p

STATUS: Upz! ( using ubuntu portable kit :p )

Reason for this KANG: Fix FC on Camera's advanced options

ISSUE with this build: FC on videocam!!! Fix coming up
[LG Optimus 2x] salisbury_steak:
Well... I'm definitely not complaining. You upload, I flash. :p

Happy holidays everyone! :D

(And for the record, no error with my camera settings too.)
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
I've tried both my colleagues O2x with build 204-16 and the camera's advance settings worked.

Oh well.
[LG Optimus 2x] m00h:
Yes, that's kinda strange, I don't know if there are any differences between the devices around the world. Since the few users who reported having the same issue as I did are from german speaking areas I think it may be somehow language related, but it's just an assumption.

Regards
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Idk for sure.

But glad for u its ok. I'm several hrs to go till I end work and celebrate Christmas with my family so I'll upload 3 KANGs for 3 devices. :D
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Having some Camera Issues with v16, too. It won't crash at first, but after taking some photos, closing the camera and reopening it it will hang sometimes (wait / FC dialogue).
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Try my 204-17 or koboltzz's KANG.

Last night christmas even party I used my phone for video and photo taking. No issues ...took over 100 photos lmao :)
[LG Optimus 2x] yukkio:
I have a problem with wifi, it connects but I can't navigate or not google services until pass a minute. I have this problem with all router. Bb 824 and last kang.

Br and happy Christmas.

Enviado desde mi Optimus 2X usando Tapatalk
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
temasek's KANG build P204-18

MD5: 02d9ad8d936df79c202220d1655ec58c

My attempt to fix FC on Camera's Advanced Options in build 204-16 was successful but resulted in FC on videocam on build 17. A fix in build 18....my bad :eek:

Edit: Confirmed fixed. Phew! I don't want users start FCing on videocam on an important day. My apologies ....

Changelog

Merged commits up-to

Change Icdb48dda: droid2: Add touch-to-focus

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#q,status:merged,n,z

Cherry-Picks

New - Change I85bc7836: es_ES: Add missing translations

New - Change I64f48576: getNextCalendarAlarm: query instances to get recurring events right

REVERTED - Change I6a38e9cd: camera: Add autofocus support to the media recorder

REVERTED - Change I1917ed03: camcorder: add support for manual autofocus via focus button

Change I6368d518: Add option to lock volume keys in silent mode (framework part)

Change I57d54e64: Add option to lock volume keys in silent mode (CMParts part) (PATCH #4)

Change I055fb5f1: Ringlock (1/3): Style options added to CM settings

Change Id2e58880: Ringlock (2/3): Style options added to CM settings (PATCH #2)

Change Ieebeaeee: Ringlock (3/3): Style options added to CM settings

Change I875a5ba5: Ability to debug over Network (framework part)

New - Change I227ef11e: Add ability to debug over Network (Settings half)

Change Id3e68a75: Notification power widget mobiledata auto 2g/3g (PATCH #2)

Change I2e365a33: Notification power widget mobiledata auto 2g/3g

Change I4427e3f2: [bionic] Replace strlen() with ARMv7 optimized version

Change I6c43625d: Allow custom snooze times for calendar reminders.

Change Ia99dbdd5: Show number of pending calendar reminders.

Change Iaaf7f1c4: LGEStarRIL: Apply DST regardless of Infineon fix (PATCH #3)

Change I3a7ffd3b: Fix a possible null pointer exeption editing a contact.

Change I5ec0b565: Dialpad: perform search when retrieving last dialled number

REVERTED - Change Ibef23046: Added option to use either removable SD card or internal memory

Download from:

http://www.mediafire.com/temasek

http://minus.com/temasek

Note: Above cherry pickings may not be related to your device :p

STATUS: Upz! ( using ubuntu portable kit :p )
[LG Optimus 2x] _Vegas:
thanks!~~~~
[LG Optimus 2x] invinciblervd:
Thanks for this mate. But do I need to do a full wipe if I'm coming from cm7 build 203?

I just did cache and dalvik and couldn't get it to work...After bootscreen I got a blank screen and just backlight on..Had to pull the battery and get back to 203 :-(

Thanks in advance

RD
[LG Optimus 2x] koboltzz:
No, you did everthing right, seems again temasek's 'cherry picking' causes this issue for you. Cache and dalvik cache wipe is enough for chaning from nightly to (pure) KANG. Try a pure KANG from my sig.
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Koboltzz

You seems to be very confident in saying that. Cherry picking doesn't cause boot up to be in a blank state.

Make sure u don't smoke users by false statements.
[LG Optimus 2x] koboltzz:
Yeah, normally not, but if you can produce fc in camera app, you can do even more but not knowing it :p
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Dude,

U basically just lost my respect which I initially had of u.

I'm not going to start any war of words with u.

Have a nice day.
[LG Optimus 2x] koboltzz:
Nor do I :rolleyes: Maybe you should loosen up, that was a joke, peace.
[LG Optimus 2x] m00h:
Well, for me the 204-18 works very well, no complains here.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sckank:
TemaSexySek: Same here, no problems so far with latest kang. Well except my newborn constantly wants food. I bet its your kang doing that too :P ;) Well, actually tried out 823bb, had to enter pincode :-/ Back to 824 its the best for me. Oh merry xmas and thanks for all the nice working xmas time. You're the best! ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] dakdroid:
@temasek

copy/paste from my build-script. this adds the miui-like battery bar. still works

cd ~/android/system/frameworks/base/
git branch added
git pull http://review.cyanogenmod.com/p/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base refs/changes/77/7677/17

cd ~/android/system/packages/apps/CMParts/
git branch added
git pull http://review.cyanogenmod.com/p/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_CMParts refs/changes/78/7678/10

cd ~/android/system/vendor/tmobile/themes/Androidian/
git branch added
git pull http://review.cyanogenmod.com/p/CyanogenMod/android_vendor_tmobile_themes_Androidian refs/changes/66/9166/2

cd ~/android/system/vendor/tmobile/themes/Cyanbread/
git branch added
git pull http://review.cyanogenmod.com/p/CyanogenMod/android_vendor_tmobile_themes_Cyanbread refs/changes/67/9167/2
[LG Optimus 2x] temasek:
Thanks dakdroid

I'm thinking the MIUI battery mod keep at your KANG so that users can choose and flash yours also.

Cheers :)