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[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
Yes your right lol that is a very handy feature now that I think about it. I remove my sd card alot lol
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subbuaxel:
Hi Friends,

Please suggest and post links if we can somehow install gingerbread theme with launcher and stuff in a official 2.1 ROM without flashing a different ROM.;);););)

Please.....
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jason93:
Search in the forum first before making a new thread :).Check this thread (posts #7 and #8)
[Nook Color General] micksh:
I did a limited testing of video playback battery life only. 1.1 stock and CM7. If you find this interesting please provide your test results with your conditions. I did this testing to find what can make the best battery life in case I'm stuck with NC without power, like in plane.

Here are conditions, but keep in mind that the testing is far from being perfect, I could not make conditions exactly the same. I am a noob, after all, in March I got Nook Color and this is my first Android device. Should give some high level picture though.

1.5 hour 720x400 mp4 movie from SD card, restarted every hour (set up a timer for myself). Would love to find some automated environment.

Display brightness - ~18-20%, don't know the number, used only slider, tried to make brightness identical, but could make a mistake. This is to me a comfortable brightness to watch movie in room without sunlight or in airplane.

Tests:

1. 7 hours 15 minutes. New rooted stock 1.1 stock player (gallery), Wi-Fi on. (Wi-fi consumed 7% according to stats).

2. 6 hours 30 minutes. Stock 1.1, stock player, Wi-Fi off, Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk renamed. The big difference with first test is that I installed bunch of free software (like 100 or so apps and games) and many probably were running in background automatically. I didn't know about autostarts then.

3. 7 hours ~20 minutes. CM 7.0.2 on eMMC, moboplayer, Wi-Fi off. Background processes suppressed by autostarts.

I disabled all widgets except Batteryleft (it doesn't seem to be accurate, BTW) and I'm using basic wallpaper. Nothing fancy.

Next time I will try to see what effect few dynamic widgets and live wallpaper will have.

So far my impression is that CM7 has almost as good battery life as stock 1.1 (maybe up to 5% lower, but that could be within margin of error, and that is OK with me). This is for active use, I know about sleep issues.

Note: Battery stats in CM7 show that display consumed ~50% of the power (47% is media server). This is too different from stock where I saw like 20% for display consumption with similar brightness. Different tools were used for sure. Anyway, looks like slight variation in brightness can affect battery life significantly.

Question: When nook shut down because of low battery, I wasn't looking at it. So, it's +- 5 minutes error. Is there a log file in Android to find when it exactly shut down?

Any comments are welcome.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droofus:
So, if rooting the g tablet is the way to go, it surely must stand up to a few simple speed checks. Has anyone posted various root's numbers or have some to post?

Stuff like, time to boot? Time to load common apps? Time to open the same web page? Frames on games? Time to download? Max browser pages open? Other relevant numbers welcome...

As far as I can tell, without any objective numbers comparing root performance, a lot of this rooting fad raves could just be subjective reported elation about being able to be different.

Granted, originally, the Gtab OS had some flaws. That's old news, get over it. How do the current roots compare with OTA version 3588? I'm somewhat shocked not one of the pack of geeks that have rooted their G tab hasn't backed up their raves with real numbers...

Granted, being rooted to the latest vegan might get access to the full Android market, and perhaps even future updates in Android... However, if I'm finding most of what I want at Amazon Android, is rooting worth the trouble until the roots and android versions stabilize? Show us the NUMBERS...!

I've been there done that with this subjective stuff long enough not to be swayed without real numbers...

Also, do any of these roots do OTA auto updates or do root updates require a download & re-root? Just asking...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
Jesus christ if you can't do a simple search for benchmark tests then I highly suggest getting the ipad2. I hear that the ipad 2 reads your mind so out don't have to do any search. We've only had a kazillion threads on this.

Edit

This is not to mention all the YouTube vids on this people have posted.

Edit again.

Actually, here are a few.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1047098&highlight=benchmark+2011

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12984546&postcount=9

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12986416&postcount=10

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12986416&postcount=10

Edit again.

I'm serious, I highly suggest the ipad 2 to everyone I talk to. Speaking as someone who repairs computers as a side job, I'm fully aware that most people want to be spoon fed everything, which is why the ipad 2 is the ideal device for most people. If people want to complain about nothing, let apple deal with them.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droofus:
Thanks for the links.

However, as best as I can tell, they seem to verify that the OTA updated Gtablet is about the same speed as Vegan in the benchmarks when the CPU speeds are similar.

However, do the benchmarks used translate into much of relevance to speed of actually using the tablet to open programs, boot the tablet, download & open web pages. Stuff that people actually do with the tablet... Unless that's what the benchmarks are testing... But that info isn't provided in the links. Again -- weak...

The numbers and detail provided in these links deserve barely more than a C grade, if that... And what they provide seems to be at equal speeds, the current OTA updated gtab OS works fine... As long as you don't need the full Adroid market...

You Tube links? As best as I can tell, not one of them is an objective comparison with the OTA 3588 update gtab. They are just videos of vegan working... As far as real world numbers and comparisons -- Grade D-...

Where are the Grade A numbers? It's not that I don't believe the ROMs are not an improvement, it's just where are the numbers to support these raves?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cu_ninja:
What exactly are you looking for? There are no hard numbers when it comes to real world use, just your user experience versus mine.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
You're not telling us what you want. You said you wanted numbers so I gave you a bunch. Then you say you don't want those numbers. So, I ask again. What do you want?

I'll be brutally honest on this one. Vegan isn't that fast. From all my tests, Calkulin+Clemsyn combo is by far the fastest custom rom+kernel for the gtab.

After trying out everything, I'm back to Calkulin+Clemsyn combo.

Would you like me to make a video of myself openning various programs and post it for you? What do you want?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
I'm thinking you should drop that 'r' from your handle.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wasserkapf:
You also have a misconception of what rooting is/does.

To become root in Linux/Android is to gain administrative privileges. In windows root would be called Administrator. Gaining root privileges gives you the ability to change system files and settings, NOTHING MORE. By itself it does nothing.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enigma0456:
Now boys...

The fact is that if you need numbers, reports,testimonials or anything else to justify mucking around with the gtab thenyou probably should just get an iPad. Nothing to prove then -everyone "knows" its the best-no numbers needed! The gtab is for people that don't mind the hardware and software quirks as long as they have the freedom to mess around. Its not about the numbers -its about the experience. :-)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aasoror:
[Q] Why should we ..?!

Well, I am not sure anyone here is trying to sway you in one direction or the others.

Here is how things go in community forums like this one:

- People search for what they got in mind first.

- If they didn't find its either undoable or not that interesting for the community that no one bothered doing it.

- In both case those people are expected to either drop whatever they are wishing for or pursuit it on there own and then share their findings with the community.

In other words, why the heck am I supposed to go beyond whatever benchmarks readily available on the market to show YOU how good/bad are custom firmwares compared to stock ones when :

- custom firmwares are volatile and each couple of days there is a new rom or rom add on or a kernel released (am I supposed to maintain the stats for every single update released ? else how meaningful would be my outdated stats to you? when it represents a ROM that is no longer a candidate)

- the whole flash back and forth and in between roms is a 10~20 minutes process of YOUR time which would suffice to answer all your questions.

If you still need some usability tests (you can use your own stop watch to time through the videos) you might want to check here.

Best of luck,
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebadfrog:
I think this was the best answer.

The information you are demanding is indicating your ignorance. As was already stated rooting does nothing for performance. If you want numbers you can install each rom and test with each kernel setting whatever your heart desires. Its not likely anyone else even cares as most people only care about stability and a lack of lag
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schettj:
Rooting itself does nothing other than giving you root - the speed of your device before and after rooting is identical.

Now, if you want to talk about the speeds with or without an overclocked kernel, or with a custom Froyo vs custom Ginger vs stock rom, as others have said there are plenty of posts out there.

Mine lasted on the stock rom for exactly one boot after opening the box - so I could copy on the bits to begin the rooting/custom rom flashing goodness.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droofus:
What I'm looking for is defined, at least in part, in the first post. Copy and pasted here for your convenience.

Stuff like, time to boot? Time to load common apps? Time to open the same web page? Frames on games? Time to download? Max browser pages open? Other relevant numbers welcome...

If I go to a notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards, the various card performances in various games are reviewed. The reviews are very professionally and objectively done with detail. Clicking on any specific card opens a detailed review of that card. This allows users to make decisions based upon what sorts of (graphic game) uses they might actually have.

It seems a similar but much smaller objective set of benchmarks could be performed on the various g tablet roots using a set of common uses in part noted above. It doesn't need to be as elaborate or detailed as the video card review site noted above. Just objectively testing a few simple end user tasks would seem to be adequate to get beyond the subjective raves that one commonly sees about this or that OS change...

FYI, part of this is related to my background as a doctor (plus a computer background dating back beyond the Apple II to programming FORTRAN and COMPASS on mainframes in the 1960s). As doctors we are constantly bombarded with all sorts of anecdotal raves about this or that treatment all the time, only to find that they aren't supported by actual objective research -- some cause harm, not healing. Fortunately for those promoting software changes related to raves and fads don't have the potential to cause anyone significant harm... Excuse me if I'd like to see similar objective professional 'standards of care' when it comes to reviewing and analyzing software/hardware fads. I'm sure there are plenty of others in the audience who'd feel the same...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] D Wright:
So is this a religious thread, I see Jesus was mentioned.

Actually sometimes you modders act like it.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
I'll get the other times later. Here is the startup time.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
Well, while I can see your point, I also have to point out the other side of the argument. I am an engineer. Last year, we got a college graduate who, from the outlook, had all the numbers and credentials. He graduated with almost a perfect gpa. Sounds nice, right? He had all the numbers. The problem was as soon as he began working with us we figured out very quickly that we had a book smart-absolutely no common sense person with us. I swear, he pulled me aside one time and asked me why they were "watering the concrete slabs" in the lab. It got worse from there. I had to explain to him very basic engineering concepts and applications like stirrups, slippage, etc.

This guy actually went through college getting the grades and everything without actually understanding any of it. He graduated with a structural engineering degree without knowing the very simple practical processes of curing concrete or reinforcing footings.

The point is numbers can be deceiving if you ignore annecdotal (aka common sense) evidence. You need both objective numbers and common sense to work in reality. Sure, I've heard plenty of annecdotal nonsense like creationist BS, religious miracles, and homeopathic crap. I'll give you that. But you seem to be on the other extreme side, which is to ignore all personal evidence and place all your bets on pure numbers.

I'm telling you now. We got both the numbers and personal evidence. I'll try to get them for you.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poymeister:
Doofus

I like the list of missing benchmarks you listed. Why don't you measure them and report back?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schettj:
All those numbers are identical before and after rooting your device since nothing changes before and after root, other than you now have root access.

That was easy.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebadfrog:
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[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sancmat:
While watching everyone bash eachother here has its entertainment i have some advice.

Droofus

1 i would recomend not comming into a community forum and bashing people who put a lot of effort into making the product you own better. These people don't get paid for the hours of work they put in.

2 if you don't like how thing are done around here take the time to be a good example and do it better. You clearly have an idea in your head on how to make a professional stastical representation of the roms so do it.

3 what some people are trying to tell you is that it is not all about the numbers. Some people want gingerbread features. Right now all of the gingerbread roms suck for video performance due to driver issues so i don't use them. I like the gingerbread features but i watch videos a lot so i use a froyo rom. Others really care about performance so they give up some stability and overlock.

4 people around here get upset when the same question gets asked over and over again. If you have done some reasearch reference other articles to show that.

5 this is a dual core tablet, what are you doing that you care that much about preformance.

This thing is faster than my netbook.

6 dropping your title on us just makes you sound pretentious. There are a lot of very intellgent successful people here who are not impressed by doctors or your past experience. If you have useful skills to the community don't brag just use them and people will be grateful.

7 people were a little rude about it but they are right. I tell people that if they want something that is easy go buy an ipad or a xoom. If you want something for under 300 then buy a g tab and understand that with some effort it can be great.

Everyone

1 relax... starting flame wars with someone who doesn't know their way around isn't going to help anyone.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sancmat:
I forgot to mention that traditionally us geeks are known for our lack of formal documentation.

P.s. while many of us proudly wear the badge of geek calling us a pack of geeks is a little adversarial.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacoballen22:
I can't seem to transfer over my contacts from my old phone. I even did a factory reset without the similar in and still can't import.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacoballen22:
Bump**
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicgraner:
How are you trying to transfer them?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacoballen22:
Transferred the sim to the new phone and the contacts will not import at all.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
What is the safest speed you can overclock the samsung epic 4g? I am using the Tegrak overclock right now, and I found out the ultimate can run up to 2ghz.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
That doesn't work. You have to be using a custom kernel to overclock the Epic and it is only safe up to 1.4ghz.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
FYI, complete newb to this stuff, so please bear with me. Are you saying that it takes a custom kernal for the Tegrak Ulitimate, or the the version I have right now? With the Tegrak Overclock, I put it at 1.3 and it seems noticably faster.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
Tegrak ultimate shouldn't work at all, and you're lucky it didn't royally screw up your phone without a kernel with support for overclocking. Look in development and select a custom kernel to fit your tastes then download either SetCPU or OverClock widget and use one of them to raise the clock speed on your phone. I recommend either of those because they are tried and tested methods.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
Weird, on the android market it says that it (the standard Tegrak) works with stock kernels, custom kernels, and custom roms. I checked before installing it and I just double checked it now :confused:
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
For the record, it has been a while since I played with my phone, but it's kernel right now is 2.6.32.9
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
Another thought; I've had setcpu for a while, but didn't find much use for it as the phone is already operating at 1GHZ, which is the max SetCPU will allow the phone to work.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
Because there isn't a kernel that support OverClocking installed.Once you have an overclock-compatible kernel installed SetCPU can raise the CPU speed.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
I see. Thanks for the info :)
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
Also, while tegrak may work I strongly recommend a custom kernel for added stability, along with overclock capabilities up to 1.4ghz (depending on if your phone can handle it) undervolting and other useful features.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qbking77:
Each phone is different. Some phones can handle 1.4ghz, others can't even handle 1.2ghz. You just have to test it out and see what your phone can handle.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
Any recommendations for a custom kernel?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
It seemed to hand 1.3 just fine, but I still backed it down to 1.0 until I get the custom kernel for it.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
I personally use Twilite Zone.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
Got a link? I looked but couldn't find it.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qbking77:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=976197&highlight=twilight+zone
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
Thank you :D
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
After reading the link to Twilite, I am interested in running the SyndicateROM Frozen. Any chance someone could walk me through the steps? I'm not being lazy and am doing research, just want to make sure I don't screw up my phone. I am at work right now, so I haven't even attempted to get Twilite yet. Perhaps getting the new rom would accomplish two things at once??

Edit: After some reading I think I will be ok, but if anyone wants to chime in then feel free.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qbking77:
Here you go man! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy2Et6qVGdo

I made this video and it should help you out. The twilight kernel comes with the syndicate rom so you don't need to flash it since it already comes with the rom.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JohnCorleone:
Is there any truth to a post I read stating some kernels support Wifi Tether and others don't?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
Kernels can break wifi tethering, but none of the current kernels for the Epic do (as far as I know).
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
Huge Thanks!!!

:D qbking77 saved my butt big time. I was at work and couldn't watch the youtube instruction videos, screwed up, and he told me what I had done and walked me through the entire process step by step. I am now running my first custom rom and my phone processor is working at 130% (1.3 GHZ) of it's stock speed which = :cool:
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grimace78:
New issues

:confused:

1. Phone has shut off twice now, and the only way to get it to come back on is to pull the battery. Once I do that it comes back on in airplane mode and I have to reboot.

2. Some of the websites display glitches on the screen.

3. Now the music player won't work. When I hit the icon it says there is not enough room for the Music DB. Delete some items.

What should I do?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Top Nurse:
So why can't I go faster than 1.4 Ghz? Is it a software limitation? Also is there an app that will let me set any cpu voltages I want as opposed to just decreasing the voltage? I'm not interested in battery life, just don't want to let out the magic smoke in the cpu. Been my experience that increasing voltages is what makes oc happen.

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k0nane:
If you're not running VisionKernel 1.2, the kernel you have doesn't support higher than 1.4ghz. If you are, and you can't push it that far, your hardware just can't handle it. Consider yourself lucky, many can't even get to 1.4. As far as cranking voltage up, if you really want to, you should be able to do that in Voltage Control.
[LG Optimus 2x] tablighs:
Hi,

I am having trouble with my o2x because when i attached my earpiece and fall asleep.. the next morning when the alarm sound will go off only in the earpiece and not together with the loudspeaker.. this is quite frustrating because by then my earpiece wont be in my ear anymore... ;) is there any fix?

Edit: Problem solved with new MCR FR15.
[Vibrant General] duboi97:
Okay I was on engadget and saw it http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/30/fcc-opens-floor-for-public-comment-on-atandt-t-mobile-deal/ go to it if you want but please fill this out so we don't get bought out please :D
[Vibrant General] eboetcker:
kind of old news man, that first got announced quite some time ago.

But I am totally in favor of that not happening, I hate AT&T and dont want their customers hogging our bandwidth.

Plus they monopolize in the GSM network....not good.
[Vibrant General] }{Alienz}{:
Go fill out the FCC form to tell the FCC this shouldn't happen.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
If it doesn't go through I'll prolly go back to AT&T anyways. AT&T is building their network out. T-Mobile is standing still and thinks GPRS roaming is all their customers need in a ton of places. Not gonna deal with that much longer now that AT&T has a new active HSPA+ tower < 1 mile away...

A lot of people around her who had T-Mobile (they were the only thing that worked) are now switching to AT&T for better coverage.

Impossible to travel with a phone that's dropping coverage left and right, and it kills your battery life to boot...