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[Captivate Android Development] Spidious:
Well back to my ORIGINAL comment way back there somewhere.

I suggested that they be released on Friday night.

So that WE (users) could install it over the weekend. That would give them more time to fine tune it over the week. Instead of having to spend all their time on the weekend. I am sure they have family they would like to spend time with.

I was just saying that if it was done over the weekend. They could release it on Monday morning or sometime during the day ? They ( developers) must have jobs that they have to go to. So why should they have to start the process of getting it ready to release as soon as they get home ? What is a week delay, or a few days delay to release it on Friday.

It would possibly save people from making mistakes or bricking their phones staying up late Monday evening trying to get it on their phone ?
[Captivate Android Development] aalh:
Smooth you say?

as smooth as this?
[Captivate Android Development] megatronisabeast:
But no one has to flash on Monday when it comes out. It is an option. I have not flashed this rom yet and won't until I know that I can use it for daily use since I don't have another phone. I understand what you are saying but they have created it and they may chose the day and time of release.
[Captivate Android Development] stinkynoon:
I had a spontaneous reboot last night, for no apparent reason. It rebooted, and it seemed to hang on the Mosaic booting animation...I may not have waited long enough for it to complete booting, but I pulled the battery and then it rebooted fine. I don't think I had any program running either, though I honestly don't remember. I happened to look at my phone and saw that groovy Mosaic II animation..and thought what the hell just happened? I'm running stock Mosaic II with the xCal kernel.
[Captivate Android Development] JoeDV:
The decision as to when a release goes out is made by the developers for the developers. They know best what they can do and when they can do it. I am sure they would love to satisfy everyone and release it at the perfect time. However, when exactly would that be? You have a team of developers, and users, who lives in different countries in different time zones.

The simple fact is that the release will be out when it's ready. I can assure you they spend many hours, many late nights, making sure that the release is as perfect as it can be. They will not sacrifice quality for a time line, and that's all you should ask for.
[Captivate Android Development] KTownGT:
Give it to me now, I command you woman!

(Ps, done with Bacterial Physiology forever! :))
[Captivate Android Development] jde984:
Dear fellow mosaic users,

So I've been out of the country for the past week (the day before the official mosiac II dropped).

Could someone please briefly summarize all that has happened during this time with mosaic and cappy development in general and save me almost 100 pages of reading? ;)

Your friend,

JDE984
[Captivate Android Development] eep2378:
I'm not trying to encourage you to flash something you don't want, but I, along with many others are using this rom as a daily driver with little to no issue. I dont have another phone either, so I may be rolling the dice to an extent, but I have had no problems with using this rom on a daily basis. It is a work in progress, but for the most part its stable.

+1 on the release date, they'll release it when its ready!
[Captivate Android Development] damnitdave:
Lol i love how some of the peeps on here act like Team Phoenix owes them something.... they don't own us (insert expletive here) they take time and effort out of their lives to develop this. All we can do is thank them for the time and effort and wait
[Captivate Android Development] adzidek:
Or...you could just read page one for the changelogs?
[Captivate Android Development] Jdelgado:
Samsung Official Gingerbread for the Galaxy S

I wonder how will this helps on the development of Mosaic.

http://www.androidcentral.com/official-samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-getting-gingerbread-mid-may
[Captivate Android Development] BWolf56:
Get on Irc - will be faster than way ;)
[Captivate Android Development] diablo009:
+1

OP has a summary of changes.
[Captivate Android Development] BWolf56:
The only good thing about this is the kernel source. Other than that, nah... no good :rolleyes: haha
[Captivate Android Development] jde984:
Nah, that's too easy.

Besides, I was already testing it before I left.

Just wanted to know what bugs were found, who's goldfish died, how nun's family is doing, how many questions bwolf can answer in the day. The important stuff that always seems to be left out of the op.
[Captivate Android Development] JoeDV:
How'd ya know my goldfish died?? :) (seriously, it did) lol
[Captivate Android Development] keller.jeff:
Was his name GolDVish? :rolleyes:
[Captivate Android Development] JoeDV:
Wow... don't quit your day job. Unless of course you're a standup comedian, then please, do quit. lol ;) Was my kids fish... not really sure what the name was actually. I referred to him as "the damn fish" if that helps.
[Captivate Android Development] BWolf56:
LOL

I'm slacking up but my post per day is up there ;)
[Captivate Android Development] stinkynoon:
Cripes that part had me laughing... Sorry about the fish!
[Captivate Android Development] jabtiz:
My first boss way back when had a saying. "I would rather get burned for time than quality. I will not turn in crap to a client"

You guys are doing great work. Most of us thank the Devs for the time they spend doing this for almost nothing.

And Mosaic II is fine for every day use if anyone is worried about flashing it.
[Captivate Android Development] NunHugger:
Ok...JoeDV...you were right. No more deadlines.

As of right now, as far as I am concerned, any time frames or specific day of the week release dates are done. We liked the idea of giving you a specific day to look forward to, but evidentaly we picked the wrong day. I think from now on we are going to work on stuff and release it when it's done...period. No dates, no days, no times, no more promises...well, one promise...to release top notch roms and themes and other stuff...when they are ready.
[Captivate Android Development] zigc:
Amen to THAT.
[Captivate Android Development] JGGW:
+1 .... Everyone does this to contribute to the community, people complaining about how and when a team releases does nothing to help. Now you have Nun all upset ... it's gonna take a while and a lot of lolly-pops to calm him down.
[Captivate Android Development] t-readyroc:
That's all anyone need ask for.
[Captivate Android Development] rquiett:
That was a great mental image you painted there.

As for the release time. I liked that you were trying to keep a set release day but I also liked when I was running phoenix that I never knew when adam was going to put out a new release. It was always exciting when I would log on and see that something new had come out.
[Captivate Android Development] cliftomr1082:
Oh Nun, sounds like you need a hug (maybe from a Nun). LOL:rolleyes:
[Captivate Android Development] xtremekilla09:
can I get a ...wut...wut
[Captivate Android Development] bigsmitty64:
BUT I WANT IT NOW!!! :D
[Captivate Android Development] Vivified:
No one forces you to flash the day updates release... flash when it's best for you, don't request devs work and release updates based on YOUR schedule... that's absurd. With that said, this is what you get with those kind of outlandish requests:

I totally agree with this stance, keep up the good work!
[Captivate Android Development] FredOak3:
As a developer and programmer I can't argue with that.

Beside I like surprises and it give me a reason to keep coming back here while my code runs here at work ;)
[Captivate Android Development] xThe Enforcer:
Almost time, woooooooooo!!!
[Captivate Android Development] keller.jeff:
The Team already keeps up leaps and bounds ahead of AT&T/Samsung, so I don't think you'll get one complaint, and if you do, we'll banish them to Eclair! or even Do-nut!
[Captivate Android Development] trekie86:
Or is it, based upon that last 10 or so posts. The suspense will just be killing us.
[Captivate Android Development] gijcav:
Thanks

I wanted to say to all the Nay-Sayers out there if you cant wait for a quality product then don't wait go to another ROM. There are several ROMs out there that updated weekly that are not as stable or that contains bugs left are right. I want to say Keep up the great work. Your ROM's have made my life easier!!!
[Captivate Android Development] geokilla:
Once the ROM is more stable and feature oriented like the Froyo ROMs, I think then you can release it on whatever day you want, like Mosaic Mondays. At the moment, Gingerbread is just far too buggy for me, and probably for a lot of people as well, which is why people want to get the update ASAP, in hopes it'll be more stable and less buggy and stuff.
[Captivate Android Development] JoeDV:
Yeah.. even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while. :)
[Captivate Android Development] LOSTLOGIC89:
Not really cm7 2.3.4 is quite stable and also the developper of rom manager just added samsung captivate to the big list bc cm7 is stable.Do not get me wrong i love mosaic and i am also excited to try mosaic III. Keep up the good work guys
[Captivate Android Development] blutruck:
Or Windows Mobile 5.0
[Captivate Android Development] rquiett:
That would just be beyond cruel.
[Captivate Android Development] jde984:
So anybody else getting results like me? :D
[Captivate Android Development] BaDaB!ng505:
back to topic plz....

what are we looking forward to see ...Hint plz
[Captivate Android Development] Vivified:
Being a realist, it's likely just Mosaic II with some fixes to user issues and on the JVH base. We might get lucky and get some new theming too, that would be pretty sweet.
[Captivate Android Development] ctfeet:
I would wholeheartedly agree. You release a quality product and don't want to jeopardize that to meet some arbitrary deadline. Keep up the good work and when it comes out -- it comes out!

Now, when will we see M-III? I say it should be Tuesday, May 17 at 9:42 EDT.
[Captivate Android Development] JGGW:
I will tease a little

Just finished porting nun's solar flare:

Here is one of my own (havn't named it yet) - It is gonna be released with the release today as well

Should have one more today hopefully...enjoy the tease :P
[Captivate Android Development] ChikiBujia:
Oooooooohhhhhh!!!! A purple theme!!!!! JGGW, you just made my day!!! Now I'll be checking the thread every 2 minutes!!!

Thank you soooo soooo soooo much!!!!!

Sent From My PaulDiddy Remix Transparent XDA App
[Captivate Android Development] oldbbman:
Team Phoenix you folks always do terrific work, much appreciated by all of us. We are always grateful for whatever you give us whenever you give it to us. :D

Quick question, will the change to Mosaic III entail anything more then a flash back to GB and flash III or is there more we will need to do?

Of course a back up of everything and a full battery go without saying...;)
[Captivate Android Development] xtremekilla09:
You will be able to flash right over M II.

Some of the things to make sure of are:

- Disable Lagfix

- If you have talon kernel on, make sure you use odin to flash to xcal's

I will put a more comprehensive post later on, but that pretty much covers the 2 main things.
[Captivate Android Development] NunHugger:
An updated SuperNova theme will be released as well.

sent using a phone.
[Captivate Android Development] ee23hd2:
When I flashed MII..I was on talons kernel, and I converted back to rfs from ext4, wiped data/wiped cache/wiped dalvik, and flashed. Are u saying this time I need to flash back to xcals kernel before flashing MII?

Edit: I meant MIII
[Captivate Android Development] aalh:
as long as it is before the Rapture on the 21st

it would be hell without MIII

LOL
[Captivate Android Development] ee23hd2:
Ooohh NUN... u are killing me bro.. I'm loving that. Awesome work
[Captivate Android Development] t-readyroc:
Bah-ZING! :D
[Captivate Android Development] studacris:
Yes. Talon does not get overwritten in cwm3, MIII is jvh based talon is jvb if you don't flash from xcals it will bootloop.
[Captivate Android Development] ee23hd2:
K..thanks so much for the heads up. U just saved me from a huge headache.

Edit: so after converting back to rfs, I need to flash xcals from Odin right?
[Captivate Android Development] Boobie Watcher:
yes...........
[Captivate Android Development] ChikiBujia:
Oh Nun!!! That looks beautiful!!! Now I have to decide which theme to flash!!

Options, a blessing and a curse ... :p

I'll just have to switch themes every other day :D

Sent From My PaulDiddy Remix Transparent XDA App
[Captivate Android Development] ChikiBujia:
And the Xcal kernel we need to have can be the JVB or should we flash the JVH?

Sent From My PaulDiddy Remix Transparent XDA App
[Captivate Android Development] studacris:
As long as its cwm 2 which all xcal's are.

Just note if you try and boot after you flash a jvh kernel while on MII it will bootloop also. So If you do that boot directly to recovery and flash mosaicIII.
[Captivate Android Development] ChikiBujia:
Perfect!!!

Thanks soooo much!!!! :D

Sent From My PaulDiddy Remix Transparent XDA App
[Captivate Android Development] gangpe:
Nice!

Thanks for the info Stud,

I was thinking that I would need to switch from Talon to Xcal; that's why my weekend was so much fun! I ran it this morning, and the system didn't like my backup files, so I had to reinstall everything. Always fun, but once again, that's part of the fun, right?
[Captivate Android Development] Spidious:
Well doing the following.....

Using Odin to flash to Xcal's kernel.

I noticed the link goes to the non voodoo version ? Is that the correct one ? Why no voodoo ?
[Captivate Android Development] JoeDV:
Yes, that's the correct one. My guess is, because that's the one they want you to use. You can choose whatever one you want, but don't be surprised when your phone ends up in a bootloop if you don't follow directions.
[Captivate Android Development] Spidious:
Installing the v1.1 Wonder what the v1.2 has different and if it will work ?
[Captivate Android Development] NunHugger:
We have had some issues with the voodoo kernel. Just trying to save you, the user, the headache of having to troubleshoot problems and us, Team Phoenix, of having to answer a bunch of kernel related questions when issues arrise.

sent using a phone.
[Captivate Android Development] Primus76:
stupid question? i started to reread the forum but just in slight panic.. did the stock GB as directed. Had success.... now its been on the galaxy S screen for 10 minutes.. how much longer should i wait?? have not done the second part which is the new kernal as i thought i should let it boot first from stock load?

thx
[Captivate Android Development] Primus76:
nm.. it finally booted and is FC'ing everything lol
[Captivate Android Development] NunHugger:
You should be safe. You passed the bootloader part. I would pull battery and try to let it reboot again. Then if that don't work...put it in download mode...and re flash with odin.

sent using a phone.
[Captivate Android Development] NunHugger:
Get in dl mode. Flash kernel. Then dl and flash MosaicII. You should be ok.

...oh. Too many puppies....are being shot in the dark.

sent using a phone.
[Captivate Android Development] zelendel:
Ok let me poke my head in hear for a sec and explain some things.

The monday release was so the team could test it in real world activities over the weekend. I agree that putting a time frame on the release needs to be changed so. Follow what nun said. As for the kernel. IT is the only public JVH kernel available right now. The vodoo one was causing me issues so we went with non vodoo. To be honest it is just as smooth.As for the themes, they will come. I want a good base to work off of before we worried about themeing and it would do no good to theme it then they would not work when we changed the files.
[Captivate Android Development] oldbbman:
Thanks X. Just wanted to make sure I was locked and loaded for when III comes our way!
[Captivate Android Development] Spidious:
OK got it on xcal..I have noticed that it takes 8-10 seconds now to skip to different areas on my movies. The talon with stagefright, or what ever it was called. Did it instantly.

Will Mosaic 3 be safe for me to go back to talon v1.6 ?
[Captivate Android Development] zelendel:
To be honest not sure you can try but he has not released a jvh kernel yet so it might not work. You can't run a jvh rom and jvb kernel
[Captivate Android Development] Boobie Watcher:
Just curious what the difference is between JVH and JVB
[Captivate Android Development] JoeDV:
This is to everyone... the releases are put together and tested with the configuration, settings, and apps that come in the official rom zip. Any modifications that you make outside of that zip, which include themes, kernels, modems, and other applications can not be expected to work with 100% certainty. The devs can tell you what should work, but do not have crystal balls to see how every mod you make is going to interact and respond. So do your homework, and understand that modifications come with a risk, that you assume.
[Captivate Android Development] Hondo82:
I have to back you up on that Zel. Two days ago flashed Xcal's JVH kernal instead of the JVB and got phone!computer. Had to go back to stock :( for a minute.
[Captivate Android Development] spinz:
durrrrr

Poor puppies.. see what happens when you people don't read.. or even worse maybe use the search function ....
[Captivate Android Development] NunHugger:
That was a shout out to Primus :D

Great band...great song. Have not heard it. Go look it up...that is if you know how to search :D
[Captivate Android Development] Ebvad:
Ditto, got to revisit stock too.
[Captivate Android Development] veebomb:
Just wanted to say thanks to all you Dev's that put soooo much time into these releases. I can't even imagine how much time you must spend looking through lines of code to perfect your product. People need to calm down a bit and realize we are getting an awesome product for nothing other than donations. So much complaining about everything, if you don't like it try another ROM or get an Iphone. We should be grateful that we even have an option to use a ROM other than the stock crap we get from the Telco's.

Anyway that's my rant, thanks for all your hard work. :D
[Captivate Android Development] cliftomr1082:
Ok devs on Mosaic, just wanted to let you I'm back. Got my replacement phone, and got Mosaic II running. Good to be back to, can't wait for Mosaic III.:D
[Captivate Android Development] Seanbest:
Trying to join the irc. Got yairc client from market. Tried entering info but it wont connect. Can someone post the info here? Tried the info at the bottom of the op but it wouldn't connect. Not sure if im entering it wrong. Can someone post what each line should be for he info?

TIA :-)

Sent from my Captivate (Phoenix Unleashed JS8) using the XDA App
[Captivate Android Development] zelendel:
In the server line put irc.shadowcard.net the rest is up to you, as it is personal pref. leave the port alone
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
i know its not supposed to work but i was using talon with darky's rom for 2 days...

and thats a jvb kernel with jvh rom...

his stock kernels wouldnt work for me put me into a bootloop after reaching OS launcher.. not the logo bootloop.

mixing with a jvb kernel was the only thing that kept me running. till he updated and changed something, now no kernel i tried worked.. but off topic....

Patiently waiting for MIII..... from firefly...
[Captivate Android Development] welchertc:
Damn. Great job Team Phoenix. I keep trying out other GB ROMs, purely because I'm addicted to flashing and trying new roms, and I can't find anything that comes close to how awesome Mosaic is. I loved MI, MII kicked ass, and MIII is so close I can smell it.

I will be getting a new phone soon because my dad wants to get into the smartphone game and will be buying me a new one in exchange for him getting my cappy. I must say, the work you guys are doing will make that a very hard transition, because I just love my cappy so damn much with what you've done for it, and it will be hard to get a new phone with less dev support. Are any of you guys considering messing around with the Infuse 4G? I really want to wait for the SGSII, as I know that will have unreal dev support, but my dad doesn't want to wait at all.

Oh well. Phone is currently charging then I'll be flashing back to stock GB in prep for the drop tonight!
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
you dont need to flash back to stock to install a full wipe rom... only for non wipe roms.

depending on how it is released tonight you probably dont have to go to stock.
[Captivate Android Development] studacris:
No probably to it.

Flashing from MII will be ok as long as you have cwm2.
[Captivate Android Development] cliftomr1082:
You need to get Inspire, that is what Adam (former Phoenix cappy member, lol). He's into developing software for it now.
[Captivate Android Development] trekie86:
Team Phoenix, as much as I want to donate just to you guys, I feel XDA gives us something that we wouldn't have normally, a place to post and work together. Therefore instead of donating to Zel or Nun or Adam, I decided to give a contribution to XDA-Developers, however, if funds are still available, I'd love to kick some yours guys way as well. Thanks for all of your work.
[Captivate Android Development] Spidious:
What you are telling me is mosaic 2 is jvh rom ?

Is Mosaic 3 jvh based also ?

I have been running the talon v1.6 (apparently jvb kernal) and besides it being even faster. And I was able to oc to 1200. I should of been having problems ?

How many other people were doing the same ? Did you have any problems ?

Why does page one say ?

Should it of had a comment to NOT use a jvb based kernal ?

If your filesystem is on ext4 (i.e. Using Talons Kernel and have lagfix enabled) you will have to remove the EXT4 with the app before flashing this ROM.

If currently running Talon kernel and installing Mosaic II...

You may need to use Odin to flash to Xcal's kernel. When installed on a Talon kernel, you may run into issues with your wifi connecting and sending your phone into a soft bootloop. Dont Panic if this happens. Place your phone in download mode, flash XCal's reoriented kernel, and then reflash Mosaic. You may then, if you choose, odin back to Talon and the issue should no longer be present.
[Captivate Android Development] bryman27:
M2 is JVB

M3 is JVH

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Captivate Android Development] zelendel:
Ok Mosaic II is JVB based not JVH. Xcals kernel is using CWM2 so it wont over write talons kernel if you are using it. I dont use an OC/UV kernel so I cant tell you how it will react. If you do not undo any lagfix then you will bootloop.
[Captivate Android Development] Spidious:
THANKS that answers all my questions !
[Captivate Android Development] studacris:
My head hurts.
[Captivate Android Development] aalh:
Phoenix Cappy Member????

No

He's The Phoenix Cappy Pappy

:D
[Captivate Android Development] Barbarian:
I hear ya.
[Captivate Android Development] smithisize:
First off, I LOVE this rom! Its the best GB ROM out there (features wide) IMO.

But, I have a problem :/

After I return to stock GB, I flash mosaic II. Well, it'll run fine for a while, but then it reboots the GUI (for lack of the actual process name) so the phone doesn't reboot, but the screen goes black and the mosaic logo flashes and everything loads again.

Seems inevitable :/ any way around this?

Regards

Smith
[Captivate Android Development] markdexter:
quick question, IM using capps 1.2 kgb kernel, on G-12 ROM, how do I disable lagfix? can I just Odin the stock Gb kernel?
[Captivate Android Development] ee23hd2:
Lol yes. He's tha don kilumicappy...
[Captivate Android Development] markdexter:
sorry xcals jvb 1.2 slideit keyboard!!