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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fahd_freak:
I have to version 2.15 and I am on nand.... my battery drain is around 3-5ma standby.... which I think is pretty good.... so I think nand is the key..... not radio
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] boomboomer:
It would be interesting if you now flashed to 2.15 again and record your consumption, you might find the early high consumption is not repeated, your original radio may have been very slighty corrupt? I'm using AmericAndroid on SD and get 3mA drain in standby with radio 2.15.50.14, battery widget predicts 12hrs use with 3g phone on and fairly frequent use or 4 days in standby (doubt I'll ever test that one but the 12hrs is about right).

My only temptation to go for NAND is speed, SD is very slow unless using a RAM build and there are too few of those. Can't quite leave WinMo just yet so sticking with RAM on SD.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fahd_freak:
Yea... even I'm curious... flash back to 2.15 and let us know your results..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nixda99:
I have also the 2.12 radio since january with different NAND roms (mostly sense) and had always 3-5mA in standby. WIFI and 3G off, GPS On/Off makes no difference. Had never the robot voice problems at the first call and no other problems that 2.15 users not have.

There was already a thread where some android nand users confirm the better battery life of 2.12, but not such a big difference like in your case.

Have found a similar thread of WP7 users with the same results.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shivok:
Any sd android users around with positive battery results? my battery gets raped in almost 15h with normal use! And yeah my stock winmo 6.5 rom does pretty well, while my Leo stays alive & kickin for about 4 days. And just to get a bit off topic, neither Froyo/Gingerbread got me crazy as an OS, nor the "old ship" winmo 6.5 can keep anyone excited anymore. I hope Honeycomb port will be developed in a stable well working level for our Leos.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sellotape:
I think part of the issue here is different peoples' expectations are different. If you are already getting say 12-24+ hours with ANY type of usage, you are probably in a different category to the one I was addressing. The issue I was addressing in my OP is getting extremely poor battery life, of the order of perhaps 6-8 hours with light usage. Several people seem to experience this; i.e. charging required 2 or 3 times a day.

The WM thread mentioned a few posts back is interesting, as there seems to be a clear trend of 2.12 giving better battery life over 2.15 (some anomalies though - be nice if someone who really knows these things intimately could suggest what the dependencies might be).

When I have some time I'll try flashing a few different radios and measuring in an at-least semi-scientific manner. When I have a little more time I'll try NAND with different radios as well. (Anyone with time feel free to go ahead and post results in the meanwhile though!)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fx.dcny:
nand that killed battery life

I have been using nand roms for a few months now, ever since mdeejay blessed us with his gingerbread builds.

presently using ginger-honeycomb theme rom.

Battery has to be charged twice a day with minimal usage. 2 hours of kindle/music is enough to fry the battery. radio is 2.15.

the rom is superb in appearance and functionality but battery is a real eyesore.

suggestions appreciated.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sellotape:
@fx.dcny: have you tried 2.12 radio as I suggest in my OP?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thivi:
Hi All,

I'm using Radio 2.15.50.14 and when I use WinMo (ROM Elegancia 2.0), my battery lasts longer than 24h, with a few phone calls and mails and sometimes use of GPS.

With Android on SD, I must charge my battery 2 or 3 times a day. Even in Airplane mode, drain is very high (losts 40-50% overnight). I'm currently with Rafdroid HD 4.2 SD build, but things are same with all other Android SD builds I've tried.

I've just installed current widget, and drain is 60 mA in standby, which seems very high ! and I frequently kill apps with Advanced Tasks Killer (apps like Maps, Soundhound that always reappear !) but maybe this Task Killer makes more bad that good...

As suggested by the OP (thanks for the tip!), I'll tried another radio when I have some time, I still have a backup of radio 2.10.50.28_2, and report to you...

Do someone know how to find the culprit app from Current Widget log? I just see a long list of running apps, but no clue about which one(s) is/are eating the battery.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sellotape:
@thivi: my experience was that the apps listed by CurrentWidget were not helpful (in this context), and like I say when I was getting ~50% battery loss in airplane mode overnight there were no unnecessary apps running, and Android was reporting the majority of the battery use as "Display". Something else must be happening under the radar of the various battery monitors (both native Android and not). I'm guessing (only guessing at this stage) that something in the radio ROM code causes it to draw more current.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] GPZ550:
Hi folks, this is a first post for me but battery use seems to be a never-ending holy grail to Android users!! I have a HD2 running HyperDroid CM7 V2.0 Fearless Falcon on NAND with radio 2.15.50.14. The phone is a branded TM UK handset and have to say that the biggest battery-eater I ever met was Google Maps.:mad: Once uninstalled (installed it on first setup), and with carefull widget management, I can just get 3 days between charges. :cool: I must point out though that I am not a heavy data user or anything, I just like to have a good functional handset that I know will do everything I need effortlesly. The HD2 is just the thing.:D Just as an edit, with Google maps being installed, even if force closed, I only ever got 6 to 8 hours from my battery.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dealkk:
I have found this out from master rom thread. Most of the build recommend 15 but i recommend 2.12.50.02_2 if you have battery drain issue on standby.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thivi:
sellotape, you're the boss !

now with radio 2.12.50.02_2 I have 4-7 mA drain in standby instead of 62-66 with radio 2.15.50.14... And last night I only lost 7% battery (and I was not in Airplane mode), it was 40-50% with radio 2.15.50.14 (and in Airplane mode !)

So this radio 2.15.50.14 seems to be the culprit for high battery drainage in Android, at least for some users...

I was happy with the RAFDROID HD 4.2 build but had 2 problems : 1.high battery drainage which is now solved thanks to sellotape thread, and 2.heavy lags that were caused by my SD-Card, problem detected thanks to this thread :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1048649

so now I'm enjoying a very fine Android experience with my HD2, even with a SD build :)

@GPZ550: it's true that Google Maps is almost always in memory, even after killing it. But I'm a heavy user of it so I don't want to desinstall it. And with radio 2.12.50.02_2 it seems that I can have a decent battery life even with google Maps installed.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sellotape:
I don't want to add confusion here, but my experience as in the OP came to an end about 2 days ago, for reasons I couldn't really associate with anything in particular, except *perhaps* an app update from the market. So... what I did is flashed 2.15 again (to at the same time answer boomboomer and fahd_freak's questions), and I am now back to <10mA standby (down from ~60). I suspect if I'd flashed 2.12 again it would also have fixed it, but I'm out of experimental options in that direction for now. This leaves me rather confused. I would have thought that apps (even under SU) would almost certainly not have sufficient access to alter the Radio ROM.

As a dev myself I struggle with the idea of the ROM becoming "a bit corrupt". I would have thought *any* corruption would have been fairly catastrophic. And yet, mysteriously, re-flashing the ROM seems to be an answer (for now). Perhaps there is some state data that the Radio ROM stores that gets corrupted or invalid and this is overwritten with a re-flash?

Personally I'm not too fussed if I have to reflash the ROM every month or so for now, ridiculous as I find it in principle. It does perhaps mean it's not just radio version that's at issue, but perhaps the action of flashing itself.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Theory:
I managed to get 5mA draw in standby mode on the NexusHD2 for SD builds (3G on but GPS and Wifi off), with some spikes (when data is being pushed). Able to last a whole day with moderate usage. (Radio version in my sig.)

But really, the NAND builds are much better overall. I managed to get a very similar battery usage pattern as above with the latest NexusHD2 Gingerbread ROM V2.7, 3G, GPS and Wifi all on.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rpiton:
Is possible to reproduce such videos in atrix specialy in Entertainment center mode?

Or can we change the player in Entertainment center to another app, such as vplayer or any other?

Thanks.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Themes and Apps] ROBINGAZI:
I unistalled the stock Message app with root uninstller and installed the GoSMSpro. Everything is fine but I think the GoSMSpro uses a little bit more batter than the stock. So I wanted to reinstall the stock but it won't.

I had backed up the app during uninstall. Am I missing anything here?

Edit: ASOP froyo MMS.apk installed.
[Windows Mobile] DevaVictrix:
I have cooked a few roms for my diamond using the HTC WM6.1 1.93 release as a base. But i'd like to try Titanium and I gather i'd need WM6.5.

I have downloaded OEM xip kernel, SYS_23563_192DPI_0409, SYS_23563_Common and SYS_23563_XIP.

Please could someone give me some idea of what to do with these folders.... I use EVK 12.5.8
[Windows Mobile] dany547:
first thing is port the SYS (common and DPI 192),unpack this two archives then useing the Packer.jar you will create a new SYS for youre build,next you will need some OEMDrivers(the touch.dll for WM 6.5) and a OEMXIPKernel (the nk.exe for WM 6.5) and last but not least the MSXIPKernel,in ROM/Shared (just create a new folder and copy the content of SYS_23563_XIP.
[Windows Mobile] DevaVictrix:
Thankyou so much for your reply.

I have just built my first wm6.5 rom and will attempt to flash in a minute.

The only thing i'm left slightly confused about is a few bits in the OEM folder.

OEM/DIAMOND/COMMON/OEMVERSION/mxipupdate_OEMVERSION_100.provxml

It reads "ROMVersion" value="1.93.401.2"" Surely I should have a second file for wm6.5?

Also in ROM/DIAMOND there were a load of files in the OEMXIPKernel I downloaded that wanted to overwrite some existing files.... namely info.txt, ROMHdr.bin, xip.bin, os.nb.payload.

I didn't let them overwrite but do I need to keep both sets of files?
[Windows Mobile] dany547:
the part with the rom version, you can modified as you wish ,yo can put you're name in there(PS: dont modify the phones ID or things like that)...then,you don't need the info.txt files anymore,delete them(PS: don't delete them if you are trying to build a new XIP.bin).If it says to overwrite.overwrite them with the new ones.Because the xip.bin,os.nb.payload,and the ROMHdr.bin are the old build files.so you need to replace them with the new ones,but you need to make a backup,just to be shure...or if you dont have the xip.bin and also the os.nb.payload for the new build you have to create the xip.bin with XIPport.exe and then we use again the XIPport app to inplant the new created xip.bin in the OS.nb.payload...that its a little tricky even i can do it properly
[Xperia Arc General] cocooma1:
Hi,

Sorry for my ignorance, as I have lived in the stone-age and owned/used Nokia's for the last 15 years.

I recently came into the real world and got an Android Smartphone (Xperia Arc).

I have looked around in google and blog to try find how to fix this problem, but have had no luck.

My issue is:

Everytime I restart my phone (turn it off and on again) my Applications menu goes all scattered and out of the order that I set it to.

Why does this happen? I've tidied it up a number of times, yet it keeps happening (yes a simple solution is don't power off the phone, but sometimes I need too..lol)

I have unlocked BOOTLOADER and ROOTED this phone, could that be the problem?

The phone is a Global Xperia LT-15i

Any help would be much appreciated
[Xperia Arc General] silasdm:
I have the same problem (non-rooted phone). Seems to be a bug :)
[Xperia Arc General] cocooma1:
Sweet, guess we'll just have to wait for a firmware update..

On that note, can you manually update firmware when needed on a unlocked BOOTLOADER phone?

I read Sony won't do it via the updater software, can it be done via the phones "Settings > About Phone > Software Update" ??
[Xperia Arc General] commodoor:
This happens with the apps that are moved to the SD card. The home screen loads first than the SD card check is placed. so the home screen doesn't see the sd apps and doesn't load them in the right place. After the SD card check the apps are located and the home screen puts them in the back. SE has to fix with reserving the places.

But if they do this the app place will be invisible (empty place) and the launcher has to restart.
[Xperia Arc General] cocooma1:
No worries, understandable.

Thanks for the info commodoor
[Thunderbolt General] Vaporsilver:
Anyone not getting 4G again? I've been bouncing between 1x and 3G all morning. Unless it has to do with the new dasBAMF but I highly doubt that.
[Thunderbolt General] alu1008:
still 4G in houston, texas
[Thunderbolt General] astefanik:
try updating to 1.6 i was getting bad 4g reception on 1.5 but now its perfect :) i am on the remix though
[Thunderbolt General] wgsesq:
Had 4G yesterday in Jersey. Woke up this morning, no data at all. Had to manually turn it off and back on. Now 3G. Running Remix 1.6. Had same problems even before rooting.
[Thunderbolt General] TheStick13:
I'm running on 4G right now in Detroit.
[Thunderbolt General] decaturbob:
no problem with 4g in south carolina
[Thunderbolt General] squeakyl:
atlanta, GA - no data at all

on bamf remix 1.5 since a week ago

*edit* just got to work and it's fine
[Thunderbolt General] obeygiant:
Where in SC have they flipped the 4G switch?

Thunderbolt + DAS BAMF + UOT Mods
[Thunderbolt General] mojonation1487:
Chicago- stuck on 3G or none at all

EDIT- lol as soon as I post this 4G comes back.
[Thunderbolt General] Vaporsilver:
I had to enable rev.a then re-enable eHRPD for some reason and it returned. Very weird.
[Thunderbolt General] carycooke:
mine goes from 4G to no data and i have to go into radio info under wireless & networks and turn the radio off and back on and 4G comes back on for a couple of hours and i have to do it again I have BAMF 1.6 remix with new radio Tennessee
[Thunderbolt General] KZIWarrior:
We had NO data at all for most of the day yesterday in Nashville then only 3G at night. Woke this morning and been on 4G most of the day but it has flashed to 3G a few times... VZW apparently can't get their **** together... though with that said today the battery drain from the 4G is WAY down from what it was before whatever they did yesterday (unless it's the ROM, but this much difference I find hard to believe, running BAMF 1.6)
[Thunderbolt General] Pzyborg:
Same here in Pittsburgh.
[Thunderbolt General] Pzyborg:
Not worth it though, it's still switching back and forth between 3g and 4g. Draining my battery. So, I did the ##778# thing.
[Thunderbolt General] Pzyborg:
Talked to a Verizon rep just now and she said all is still fubar for the Thunderbolt network. To Verizon: In the words of Keyshawn Johnson, "Come on, man"! Lol.
[Thunderbolt General] biglipps66:
Ide really like to try a TB again but these threads make me second guess why I even want to bother :eek:
[Thunderbolt General] charlie.kanel:
4G functioning fine in CT
[Thunderbolt General] ncwildcat:
So they have 4g in south Carolina?? Still not on in raleigh, which is a city that prides itself on being a technology hub
[Thunderbolt General] rashly:
Here in NY I have 1x only as of noon today.
[Thunderbolt General] jbh00jh:
Have had 4G all day in Columbia ,SC . No problems. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xchasa:
Just installed tw4 on stock jvk rom with no issues at all.

Much better than tw3.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nitephyre:
That's great... now how about adding some useful info, ie: where, how etc? :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dcozar:
wath is the download link? i installed in JVK and break my sistem i need reflash not work :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SGS_elko:
Please add a HowTo for other users.

Thx!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xchasa:
This is the link.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1050666

Just put phone in download mode and with Odin installed voodoo hacks gingerbread kernel with reboot unchecked.

Removed battery and into recovery to install tw4 zip.

From recovery chose reboot in download and with odin re added stock jvk kernel with reboot checked. That's all.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] leizureman:
Does this work if you've installed some skins, like the Crysis Sensation? I saw that someone said there could be some crashes etc if using TW4. Anyone noticed any problems?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xchasa:
As stated in title, stock jvk from samfirmware and no themes. Led fix and crt off animation the only add ons.

Totally smooth. 2 homescreens only and no fc's.

Not sure either but I used the first zip in the link and it might be deodexed. Still it is very nice.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cruzin4bruzin:
but is it worth flashing ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xchasa:
Was for me.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cruzin4bruzin:
hurray! but is it like the ACTUAL sgs2?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] CrashV5:
I update TW4 to the last version present in its thread, it's simply amazing, fast , smooth and beautiful, the best you expected from the new galaxy s II, the amazing thing is that work BETTER than TW3 on our galaxy S!

I suggest to try it, without doubt

It work fine on JVB, i use a deodex rom stock (made with kitchen ;-) ) with CF root 3.1 kernel

It work fine also with modd like 5lockscreen (but read the topic before try)

You can also continue to use crt off, glow scroll and other fix already installed.

before flash i suggest to put in SD card a "sos package" to use in case of bootloop so you can flash back to your configuration.

Also suggest to install alternative launcher you prefer, and DON'T check "use always" so if you got problem with TW4 homescreen, you can push back key, choose other launcher and maybe try some fix direct with root explorer (for example)

i hope you find my post useful!

;-)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cruzin4bruzin:
sgs2 lockscreen ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xchasa:
Seems like it to me. Just like the tw4 clips on YouTube. Multitouch works perfectly and all widgets and screens act the same too.

To add more apps to dock you have to tap on apps icon. Then menu then edit. Then add the desired app icons like phone, messages,etc by holding on app and dragging it next to app icon as the rubbish bin is now in the usual area to add icons in tw3.

When installed tw4 it only has app icon in dock.

Took a while to work out. Ha.

Awesome launcher.

Was originally using gb launcher.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] from.insider:
Thanks... i wann try
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Coolgreek:
I use tw4 about 2 days now. It was in the Juwe's 4.2 rom i flashed...It is very nice, extremely smooth and seems to work nicely.

However it still has some bugs, you may experience fc's and even sudden reboots (did so once at me after it f.c.). Also as someone posted at another forum it seems to prefer RFS file system to ext4 (unknown why since SGS2 runs on ext4). I cant say so myself since i am on RFS too but any feedback on that would be welcomed.

PS: just a tip, if you want to install TW4 i recommend installing a rom with it, it seems to work better when roms are build around TW4 and not the other way around:p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xchasa:
Maybe not. I've installed on top of stock jvk not jvb and have had 0 fc's at all. 2 days running and no problems. Only thing that caused me grief was adding icons to dock but sorted that out...

You have installed a rom with it included and seem to have issues?

After reading 30 odd pages in the link I came to the conclusion that custom roms with tw4 included sometimes had issues so I added to my rom which is running rfs.

I reckon if you wanna try it and you're running stock jvk, go for it.

No need to do a complete rom.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zaanrider:
When I install it I am getting a force close error.. why is that? Can anyone give us the guide how to do this please :S
[T-Mobile LG G2x] flexnix:
I've been having this issue where randomly my ringtone volume won't even work. And then when you goto the Settings>Sound and try to play other ringtones they don't play. There's no way for me to even adjust the volume using the Up/Down volume buttons. So I'm forced to reboot the phone. I don't use any ringtone apps, etc. Only what comes with the phone.

Let me know if you guys have been having any similar issues.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] CB620:
havent had that. *knock on wood*
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dexteristheshiz:
Hi,

I've had my DHD for 6 months now, and I love it, but after seeing this thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1056329

I've finally decided I want to get rid of the Vodafone crap on my phone. It takes way longer to boot than it should, I have stupid apps on there, and I'm generally sick of seeing the Vodafone symbol every time I boot my phone, especially as I bought the phone from them and am not even contracted to them.

Is there an easy way to rid myself of this Vodafone branded ROM? I know next to nothing about rooting or anything, however.

After seeing the link above, I realised that I'll probably be waiting ages for Vodafone to send the update OTA, and I would really like some Gingerbread around about now. Hopefully the process will speed up my phone.

But, is there anyway I can do this without losing everything on my phone? My messages, apps, settings?

A lot of questions there - thanks in advance.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andy:
Hi, you will lose everything you don't backup.

Apps will need to be reinstalled, and settings will be lost.

If your firmware version is greater than 1.3x.xxx.x then you will need to downgrade to 1.32

Follow THIS thread to downgrade.

Once downgraded simply download & run the RUU~.exe file and it will take care of the rest.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dexteristheshiz:
How could I backup my apps (and settings) and restore them once updated?

My 'software version' is 1.32.178.5

Looking at the link you provided, it says...

System requirements:

Desire HD with build number 1.72 or higher

My DHD's build number is 1.32.xxx.x... Do I...not have to downgrade? Or what?

Also, since I'm running on an Australian network (Virgin), will I need to incorporate that somehow into the software I put onto the phone or something..?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gesuz:
You can root your phone and use clockwork to remove data/cache to go back to factory settings

as for the virgin thing, just make sure your APNs are correct and you should be fine
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dexteristheshiz:
So I could root it and use Clockwork and my phone would basically be like a standard Desire HD that I bought new, unbranded in a shop?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gesuz:
yeah but you will also lose all your contacts and messages etc

i think you can use titaniumbackup to save those kind of things .. but done quote me because ive never done this, ive only rooted and cleared then flashed a new rom on
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gesuz:
actually look up a stock RUU guide (:

EDIT: Just Root your phone and flash a custom rom imo

I did it .. never going back