yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Streak 5 Accessories] william58:
I did get get Froyo 2.2 installed last week. Really improved the phone.

What I meant about this in my first post was the Dealer lied about Dell having it available as an update within a week. He knew that wasn't true. Just like saying they would have accessories within a week too. Just trying to make a sale.

As for no one locally carrying accessories, that's really too bad as the Streak is a fabulous phone. I gave up a iPhone3, Captivate for this and really like it. However, look at all the local stuff you can get for the iPhone in all the stores! One of the stores I went to said it was Dell fault as they restricted the sales of accessories so that you were forced to order from them. If so, that is really STUPID and greedy!!!
[Streak 5 Accessories] Techvir:
Dell did make some mistakes with phones.

One being the PDMI port. Its actually such a great thing , however its still very new.

Many developers have not incorporated it into their products.

Also dell has marketed this phone terribly. Even ATT does not know they have this under them.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Moulin13:
Hi everyone! i already unlock my tp2 for install custom roms (i can see SPL-1.00 Olinex on the tricolour screen), everything looks fine, except that i want it activated to cricket, but the damn "initial programimg required" from verizon still there, whats the next step? or what do i need to flash it for cricket carrier
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] tpaxadpom:
let me know if you still need help flashing it to cricket.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] paolisto:
Touch pro 2 to Cricket

If CDMA Workshop was used to reconfigure settings on TP2 to Cricket Network, does it matter what Rom is used?:confused:
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] akwete:
Hi,

Where you able to locate instructions for flashing your HTC TP2 for use with cricket?
[HTC Inspire 4G] substance12:
every video I play via the browser and dolphin mini doesn't display correctly. audio is fine. before the video starts there is a static image that I can see. I'm using ultimate droid cm7 with lords 4.5.2 kernel.

anyone know why this is happening?
[HTC Inspire 4G] GreyKnightIX:
I am having the same issue with UD as well. Quite curious what the issue is. Love the rom though.
[HTC Inspire 4G] AinsleyMcTree:
Did you recently install the flash update? I did and it seems to have jacked up a lot of videos for me.
[HTC Inspire 4G] substance12:
I did. I read that the latest flash update screwed up all online videos.
[HTC Inspire 4G] AinsleyMcTree:
Great. I'm going to poke around and see if I can find the prior version as an apk.
[HTC Inspire 4G] AinsleyMcTree:
Ended up using this...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=688054

Appears to work just fine.
[Vibrant General] devilsrogue:
So I sent my phone into samsung the other week to get reflashed after a ota update bricked it, I have the samsung vibrant like everyone else in this section:) hehe

They fixed it and sent it back, I started flashing some custom roms and then i flashed a custom kernel, Odin froze and I wanted, tryed to reset the phone and OH CRAP! there was the dreaded pc to phone screen I had before I sent it in, I was like oh no! So I got mad and let it sit for a hour, I looked online and bought a jig to get it back(im glad I did, i might need it later) I havent got the jig yet either since this was last night. I plugged the phone back into my pc, and ding ding it recognized it on that screen and it didnt before I sent it to samsung. I was able to odin from that thing, I was so happy and rejoiced! has anyone ever been able to? I bricked it again on purpose and did the same thing over too, so samsung must of changed something
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
don't know, but that PC to Phone screen IS the download mode, you can just connect your phone to PC and odin from that screen :P
[Vibrant General] devilsrogue:
No its not, download mode has the android sweeping up rubble, that is the softbrick screen lol
[Vibrant General] sahil04:
From what I've read, you can ODIN back to stock even when on that screen so it is pretty much like download mode.
[Vibrant General] devilsrogue:
Hmmm, why didnt it work before? i couldnt get it do anything until samsung sent it back to me, Odd....hmmmm
[Vibrant General] rel500:
This is 10000% true. I've done it :-)
[Vibrant General] dtemple11:
Sometimes takes several tries. It usually doesn't work until you start to get really scared around attempt #5-6.
[Vibrant General] oka1:
I have had it non responsive on the pc-to-computer screen. If this happens you just do the battery pull hold 2 button then plug into the computer to get it into download mode......but you also may need to hit the home and menu button to get it to be responsive. Or- just get the jig..............:)
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
Can I say told ya? :p
[Vibrant General] bigtom624:
When you see the phone to PC screen just hold the power button and the volume up/ down until you see the symbol for the second time then plug your USB into your phone and the COM port should show up.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spoo76:
So Ive had my G2x for a few hours now.

once logged in Google a few apps and my wifi settings showed up on my phone. other than no landscape mode and some missing apps from my N1 (including amazon apps) all seemed fine.

so i rooted and I used Titanium backup pro to restore apps + data while un selecting any system apps.

since then I haven't been able to turn on WIFI and the home button doesn't work at all.

short of doing a factory wipe I am not sure what to do. its getting frustrating.

any help is greatly appreciated
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bonzai3558:
I had the same problems. I just did a factory wipe and did not restore data from titanium. I was on CM7 by the way and I think some settings from Gingerbread do not gel well with froyo.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spoo76:
I also came from CM7, I had a feeling data would be the issue. oh well I guess i should start all over haha.

are you still using the stock recovery? Im not sure how to factory wipe on this phone
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spoo76:
I guess the menu that says factory data reset would do it haha.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] diablos991:
If you don't have a custom bootloader installed, hold volume down and power button while you boot up. That will reset it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spoo76:
Thanks, that would have been my next try. I believe that's the same combo for most Androids Ive used.

already wiped from the settings menu. all seems like it was when i picked it up, including the lack of home screen landscape even though the setting is checked in menu. not a huge deal.

I cant wait for a stable CM rom :D
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aali1011:
So clock was included as a add on to the AWESOME community rom and it is in .apk form but i can't get it to install. I open through astro and try to install via app manager with no success. I get a Green check mark and a application not installed message. Any ideas what i am doing wrong
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lowtech80:
Paste it in the system/app folder
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] artvandelay440:
since it's a system app, you can't use the regular package installer-rather you should copy/paste, as mentioned or adb push it.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superchunkwii:
I just emailed it to myself, opened the email from my phone, it had an "install" button, clicked it and installed it. No issues.
[Xperia Play General] waynebampton:
I'm curious to see what everyone's home screen looks like. How do you manage your Home Screen(s)? I'm curious as where people place things, what themes they use, what wallpapers, etc.
[Xperia Play General] DeadlyDazza:
I'm using launcher pro as I like to hide the notification bar.

Only thing is I hate launcher pro's app drawer. :(
[Xperia Play General] svenk919:
I put nearly all on my homescreen so I barely use the app drawes (don't even have a short cut to it, replaced it with a shortcut directly to mario kart :p ).

Edit: Should mention I use launcher pro.
[Xperia Play General] jlukek89:
My home screen, and the four i have set up, which show up like that when i press the home button.

Using ADW Ex, the paid version of ADW.
[Xperia Play General] sobold:
Don't have a picture, but just wanted to comment. My buddy bought one on one of those classifieds site and it's an AMAZING PHONE!!!!!! You guys are all lucky! Saving for one and contemplating getting rid of my LG E900h
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
All the mods, Apks, icons, themes of Galaxy S II in one Zip package ready to flash!

If you want the goodies from Galaxy S II then this is the package for you.

This package will do the following things to your phone:

This will only work on DEODEXED Gingerbread Roms !

Please leave feedback if it worked for you and on what rom.

if you are have Force Quits on the E-mail app: Clear Cache & Clear Data !

Clear Dalvik Cache after flashing !

Instructions for JVR Roms:

1. Flash your DEODEXED rom

2. Boot into rom

3. Clear Cache & Dalvik Cache

4. Flash GalaxII_JVR.zip

5. Reboot.

Instructions for JVP/JVH Roms:

1. Flash your DEODEXED rom

2. Boot into rom

3. Clear Cache & Dalvik Cache

4. Flash GalaxII_Package1.zip

5. Reboot

6. Reboot to Recovery

7.Clear Dalvik Cache

8. Flash GalaxII_Package2.zip

8. Reboot.

Screenshots:

Contribute to my work by donating to me :
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] han.azuki:
can u add news widget?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] EarlZ:
Screens would be nice!
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] juiceblue:
This only changed icons and didnt give me touchwiz 4...
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] xratedmas:
downloading................
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] belayson:
I'm on Darky's and downloaded the Darky's version and yea this only changed a few icons and now the e-mail app keeps force closing...
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 0utkast:
Read what he wrote.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 0utkast:
Works great on darky 5.3 Thanks dude , If you can add all the widgets of TW4 would be really nice.

Great work.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] danung:
email app fc, any fixes?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] ashok:
can it be used on Galaxy S i9003
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] antharas:
I install in Darky 10 RC 5 but email app crash so i delete dalvich cache and data cache but nothing cache... Anyone know some fix?

I can't find new live wallpapers maybe it doesn't install...
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Intratech:
Go to applications, manage applications, all and force stop email and clear data. Now see if it works. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] styxx:
I would also like to see screenshots before I flash, please. Anyone tried with Romkitchen 2.1 beta JVB?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Can anyone confirm that it is working with Touchwiz 4 ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Screenshots added, see first post.

Edit : Just flashed this on a Clean Darky V10 RC5. Works perfectly :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] ashymac86:
Just flashed on darkys v10 5.3, Amazing! thankyou OP

got FC on email app but have only cleared cache, will try other fixes in a bit ...

EDIT: force stop and clear data on email app and it works!

Love having a taste of sgs 2 a while before my upgrade is due.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] styxx:
I flashed it over Romkitchen 2.1 JVB with TW4.

Force closes, crashes.

Tried the first link, not the Darky's one.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] aslan.aslani:
I Flashed it on my Darky 10 5.3 final. but it's not TW4. It changed some icons and added some widgets and new E-mail.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] styxx:
Yes, I checked inside the ZIP file and it says TW30launcher in it so I don't think this is in fact TW4.. first post should be edited.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] han.azuki:
are ppl having issues with my location on weather widget? I have gps turned on but it can't get "my location" based weather to go.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] dxtrlabs:
Hey guys how can i get this working on. Cm7

Flashed this and i got bootloops
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Location works good here
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] lelf:
I get bootloop after flashing the zip on Darky rc6
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] cioly:
Still no background for apps title from homescreen (tw4).. They are not readable on brighter wallpapers.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] replicante05:
same here. =(
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] lelf:
Are the file in the folder lib, if u delete them the phone will boot but the tw launcher will FC
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Dlev7:
If I just flashed RC6 clean like flashed back to stock JVB and have no framework files for TouchWiz 4. Would I be put into a boot loop if I flashed this? Or should it work?

Really want TouchWiz 4 on Darkyy.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] lelf:
I think u will get bootloop becouse the file in lib are not update for darky RC6. But try, if it doesn't work just reflash darky rc6
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Dlev7:
So just wait for the OP to update for the correct lib files for Darky RC6, is that what your saying?

Im not going to intentionally flash to get in boot loop lol. Haha. Ill wait haha.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] lelf:
Yes, just wait for a correct lib files for darky rc6
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Benzema9:
removed 10chars
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] vali_ics:
work v4 in new darky rc6 ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] belayson:
Nope, I let it bootloop for 30 minutes and nothing lol. This mod keeps teasing me with their "darky releases", hopefully it'll actually work one day.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] vali_ics:
Thanks a lot. Maybe the dev make a good version for darky rc6.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Duckbert:
Is the new V 4 Update compatible with custom roms which already have an extended power menu ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Yufina:
Anyone tried this with new RC6? Because old one had problem with space and that caused bootloop? http://www.multiupload.com/8WXWMWSQ8G
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Ryyuu:
I tried it with new RC6. Changes icons but doesn't install TW4. also FC's on TW.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] shaxter:
Just flashed RC6 and now this. FC of TWlauncher, while icons are the only thing which change. Before this I tried changing the twlauncher to 5 icon dock from the SGSTOOLS but even that time it got FC's. Any one have any idea why?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] shaxter:
Just to mention that when I installed TW3 with 5 icons from sgstools, it gave me error which told me to install busybox, if i dont it FC. Does RC6 have it already or will it cause any problem if I install busybox?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
I will update once i have it working on darky
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] thommy86:
on juwe there is a tw4 framework.. how can i install your theme?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 3ja3ka3:
I flashed RC6 and then the TW4 (RC5 package that i had on the SD from the 4.0 update) and it works perfectly :) no bootloops and fcs !
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Try installing the package from first post. Should work
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Thanks for the feedback ! will look into it tonight :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] thommy86:
i already installed both yesterday.. but i still have a 1 icon dock..! what can i change?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Install my rom:

WizRom

Or reflash your rom and try again.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] sector89:
but the crt off screen is enable???
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Uploading new Package for Darky RC6 users to test
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Italia99:
I only have Bootloops!! :(

Darky RC6 with our file! :mad:

http://www.multiupload.com/OUIX8U1D7I
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
RC6 users new package:

First flash this :

If this doesn't work i'm almost out of ideas :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Zyg0t:
Work fine on Darky 10 RC6 after install Touchwiz 4 RC6 after v4.5: Package for DarkyRom FULL
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] kelvs:
will this work with both odex/deodexed stock roms ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Italia99:
That´s it! ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
RC6 Users, please give feedback wether it worked or not :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 3ja3ka3:
Is the RC6 package updated with some news or is it just modified to work on RC6? Cause im on RC6 and all the older packages are working with me....
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] camomopa:
XXJVK Rom

Hi,

For XXJVK Rom there is any problem or experience?

Thanks,
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Should work. Backup and try :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Dr.Dimes:
Well it works for me but not the 4.5 Version.

I Installed the 4.0 Version for Darky and got Bootloops.

then i installed Darky RC6 and installed the no Darky version 4.0 and it work´s fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] jobbe2tm:
Following the guide it works fine on Darky's v6 :)

Edit: Ohh and thanks for the theme :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] dachau:
E-Mail App Force Closes

At first I had an FC of the Email App after booting, but after clearing settings of the Email App it works now.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Clear data & cache of email app
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Yufina:
Awesome! It works on RC6 ^^

EDIT: Some new widget dosen't work.

EDIT2: What happened Darky's browser hack (8 tabs + UserAgent)?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Darkyy:
which version did you take?

I had an endless bootloop...
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Yufina:
Jus check first page. There is new version :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] silitek:
Market widget work..agenda and weather rest not...but it's a start :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] thommy86:
@ Nick506

editted the update script for you..!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] korrel2008:
how can i remove it ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Yufina:
You want to go back TW3? Just reflash RC6 no wipe needed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] perry_lam:
thanks that was quick was going to ask updates for darky's 10RC6
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Darkyy:
I did flash the newest RC5 v4.5 Version.

I flashed it on a clean installed RC6.

First was GalaxySFarAwayDarky4.5.zip

then I booted >> bootloop.

now trying both files:

EDIT:

WORKED... it starts bootlooping at first but then it works after 2 minutes or so... :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] replicante05:
Still needs to be smoother. =(
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Pretty smooth here ! No lag or FC.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] ktuluz:
Fresh. Darkys rc6. 4.5 flashed frist. Then tw4. I am getting force closes on tw4 after.I open an app.... any app. Anyone else seeing this?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] migamax:
good job man keep it up
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] korrel2008:
i was on juwe rom :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Dlev7:
So if I have a clean and fresh install of RC6 can someone who didn't get forcecloses or bootloops please tell me how to do it. If i flashed the first package and second package it seems people are having bootloops. And I had bootloops on prior releases.

So please someone on RC6 that has it working please tell me How. Hahah
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 3ja3ka3:
Its working for me... But i flashed the package before the update... I flashed rc5 v4.0 tw4 package on rc6 and it works... but dunno how it works now
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] jobbe2tm:
Sound's like you did it right.

Here's how i did it:

fresh install of Darky's rc6 ->enter cwm -> flash package 1 then pakage 2 in cwm -> reboot phone from cwm.

-worked for me :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] ktuluz:
Aww I rebooted after package 1 then went back into recovery and flashed package 2. I also just tried a cache wipe, and don't seem to be getting fc on tw4 atm, just some widgets wont load now. Cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Dlev7:
So flash RC6-->CWM-->Flash both packages at the same time dont reboot?-->Wipe Cache-->Reboot?

Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Its stock browser from the pacjage will update tonight with darkys browser
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Dlev7:
Just wanted to say thanks got it working perfect on Darkyy RC6.

I just flashed RC6 then both packages then rebooted.

But how do you stop email FC?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Darkyy:
At nick:

May I ask why did you offer 2 CWM packages when they are meant to be installed directly after each other without a reboot between it?

You could pack them into one single package, right?

Please advise me, if I'm wrong ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 3ja3ka3:
Go to settings/applications/manage applications and find the email app... Then click it and clear data and cache ;) It should work then.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Darkyy:
Don't worry, I'll include a script in my v10 Final ROM with TouchWiz4 which will prevent the Email FC automatically.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] kalaichelvan.a:
Hi darky,

Are you planning to include TW4 in your V10? How about all these working apps?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
yes thats right, I included them into 2 packages because I think that Touchwizlauncher doesn't copy over for some reason.

I created this in one package this morning which you can download here :

http://www.multiupload.com/DR8KWCQRQK

Tell me if it works in 1 package :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 3ja3ka3:
Is this an update(new things) from v4.0, or does it have just some modified files to work on RC6?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
Its the 2 packages from first post into 1 package
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] PieWai:
Nice nice,

I'm gonna try this on my once I have my Darky set up.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] bbgt2:
I flashed RC6 then the 1 package and rebooted. Phone works. My SPB Shell launcher doesnt work so I am assuming your package works. Had no problem with it before. Besides the digital clock how else would I know if TW4 is on my phone. Sorry for the stupid question.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
I am gonna update the package tonight with Darky's 8 tab browser, some touchwiz icon changes and 1 flashable package for Darky RC6
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] ktuluz:
Whoa... Warning guys. All was working nice, then i started having lockups with tw4. locked up while saving tw4 setting to point i had to hard+reset(hold power down) as i have seen b4 in other roms. But this.time it wouldnt boot and was cycling on galaxy s screen. I had to go into.recovery and flash rom again.... I have given up on tw4 , darky i dont think tw4 is ready for ya v10 final. It still seems to suffer from a mem leak . Never seen anythig lock up my phone like it does
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] bbgt2:
Yup same here. reflashing RC6 sans TW4
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Nick502:
havent had that problem. I will include TW4 without the adjustable settings tonight
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] clinford:
Installed on Darky v10 RC6 partly working.

Problem Loading Widgets:

Buddies Now, Calendar Clock, Days, Feeds and Updates & Program Monitor.

Have I done something wrong?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Yufina:
Same here.

But after inserted it and rebooted, now I get TW FC every startup :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 3ja3ka3:
Try to flash the package that has just one part. You can find it a few posts up. I dont know if it will work but you can try right?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Yufina:
After few reboots I was luckily quick enought to remove that widget before FC. :D I still got that FC but now this works.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 3ja3ka3:
All things will be fixed in some time ;) just tell me how many widgets do you have? I have just a digital clock and weather... And u?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Yufina:
Same here. Just tried to get those new (broken) widgets to works without luck.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] silitek:
4widgets work here Market (nice) Weather, digital klok and email..

How about resize the widget on homescreen!!..still not posible?

waiting for a update.. :)

Atlease great job dev..darky also
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 3ja3ka3:
You can resize it actually... Hold the widget until the trash appeares and the imideatly relese it.. Then you can resize it =)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] silitek:
Thanks..that's the tric;)