yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nook Color Android Development] Tarpit_Carnivore:
i was thinking the same until I read through the whole thread. I saw a few posts where the "devs" stated that they have nothing working yet but asked for beta testers, a couple of the testers stated that the ROM didn't flash properly, some even poked through and found nothing of significance stating it was what is being claimed and they repeatedly fought with people who asked for some kind of proof of the project.
[Nook Color Android Development] I Am Marino:
So basically, the general idea is that the OP is BSing everyone?
[Nook Color Android Development] mr_fosi:
There is no evidence that contradicts your statement and some that indicates that they are.
[Nook Color Android Development] Tarpit_Carnivore:
Look for yourself, YMMV, but that is what I gathered from the thread.
[Nook Color Android Development] jsmith8858:
At some point we should stop feeding the trolls, guys.

My guess? We have a couple of kids probably 16,17, or 18 years old, who maybe at first thought that this stuff was easy and made bold claims about what they could do, but upon actually trying to do something quickly learned it actually takes some effort, brains and experience to do this sort of thing and realized they are in over their head. At some point, they also thought it would be funny to say that they are only 11 years old to mess with people and to also use that as an excuse for not actually producing anything, and to explain all the delays. It's not clear if the effort is somewhat sincere, in that they really are trying to produce something, or if they are just stringing this thread along as long as they can for the laughs.

The thread is sort of funny, whether we are laughing with them or at them, but really just a waste of time ultimately.

If they really were 11, there would be enough subtle, unintentional clues in their posts to confirm that (grammar, sentence phrasing, word usage, etc), just as there are plenty of clues that tell us the true story.
[Nook Color Android Development] joenathane:
I think its far more likely that they are just little kids who are in over their heads and don't realize it yet.
[Nook Color Android Development] jaysckap:
I love this thread, its funny as ****!

And to the "devs" take a picture of your nook not a screen shot. You claim to have all this stuff so use it, something that is clearly a nook running whatever you got. Another bad sign is you used mediafire for your screenie. Why didn't you just attach a JPEG?

Sent from my badass tbolt rockin BAMF
[Nook Color Android Development] Kohr-Ah:
I have to agree this thread does crack me up
[Nook Color Android Development] indagroove:
Why is it going to take 3 to 4 days to decompile system.img?
[Nook Color Android Development] indagroove:
That's not a dump -- that's a RUU. You got it from my FileFactory account, see: http://www.filefactory.com/f/c825ecdeba967e63/
[Nook Color Android Development] jaysckap:
It just keeps getting better

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[Nook Color Android Development] luigi90210:
@op

from what i read on your thread, it seems like you dont have any knowledge to even compile an android rom from source

you havent proven any existence of this "project" and when your "beta" testers called you out on it you deny all claims that your work is fake

your some 13 year old kid(maybe even younger cause i remember reading this thread back when it first opened) who doesnt know how to lie and who likes playing pretend

i have a suggestion for you, why dont you pretend to be a surgeon and operate on someone, maybe than you will realize that playing pretend isnt so great
[Nook Color Android Development] jimgpayne:
Actually, their posts *are* filled with indications that they are young kids. The sentence structure is questionable at best. And their use of words such as "screenie" instead of "screen shots" also belies a lack of maturity.
[Nook Color Android Development] jimgpayne:
OMG. The bad-mouth you, and then take a file that you hosted and the present it as evidence supporting their work - while at the same time assuming the file was something that it wasn't?????

Ok... So they don't know the difference between an RUU and a dump. And they don't know how to attach pics to XDA. And they do not know the difference between Sense 2.1 and Sense 3.0. And they've previously confused framework and themes.

This is better than a day time soap opera!
[Nook Color Android Development] paleh0rse:
I, for one, can't wait to see what they come up with after their 3-day "recompile" of their "dump"... lol
[Nook Color Android Development] Bored God:
Don't be so quick to dismiss them. I once compiled Android for my dads old Motorola DynaTac 8000. I was only 10 years old then. Of course it was only cupcake at that time. :D
[Nook Color Android Development] dburg84:
egh...the cupcake days. dont remind me of my heroC on cupcake stock :o
[Nook Color Android Development] psychoace:
Read post 16,17,19 and 20. They don't know what GAOSP is.
[Nook Color Android Development] deolarte:
Please close this thread,it just spam, funny but spam.
[Nook Color Android Development] basrawi:
Leave the thread its ENTERTAINMENT!
[Nook Color Android Development] jaysckap:
This thread is way to entertaining to close. Keep the posts comin

Sent from my badass tbolt rockin BAMF
[Nook Color Android Development] NewZJ:
Im not trolling, i support this thread
[Nook Color Android Development] Vindolanda:
This thread isn't too funny, just sad. If these guys are 11 years old, can they just get back to Spongebob and Hannah Montana and leave us the hell alone? Before, I said to lower expectations, but this **** is getting ridiculous. They're about as tech savvy as I am (I still use a rotary dial for calls and leeches for healthcare :) ). I think now's a good time for them to throw in the towel on this charade - nice way of putting it.

By the way, you can rationalize it as it being our loss since we won't get to see the wonderful work you've done. Go the Christian fundamentalist route like with the rapture last Saturday (difference is we won't donate!).
[Nook Color Android Development] jayfr76:
Lol it is very funny. From what I understand about sense. It is next to impossible to fully port it over to another device. 90% of the problem is playing mix and match with the framework. Its like buying a PC and putting a Mac os on it. Sure it will work, but will it work as it was meant to?
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Fine fine. Not to say "done" but we are sleeping the thread again.

This was just a progress update.

Nothing works AS OF NOW.

We made stupid mistakes. I admit that. We aren't trained pros after all.

This will happen I assure you. As soon as we can. See, it is hard to do homework, study for tests, play outside, have a life, and still port Sense. It is a very part time job.

So stop raving here. This thread is sleeping. Will be bumped when there is a FLASHABLE ZIP WHICH WILL INSTALL APKS AND FRAMEWORKS TO YOU DEVICE AND ACTUALLY HAVE THEM LAUNCH.

And, if any one could help us out by providing instructions to decompile system.img on a

Mac

, that would be helpful.

For the dum dums:

-end of discussion/rave/post-
[Nook Color Android Development] jaysckap:
Play outside?

Sent from my badass tbolt rockin BAMF
[Nook Color Android Development] paleh0rse:
ok, that made me lawl! :D

Just out of curiosity, what dev tools do you have installed? (Android, or otherwise)

Do you know what the "framework" is/does in Android?
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Outside. As in "getting fit". And not becoming fat by sitting on a chair all day.

A have an sdk of Android, plus eclipse and the ndk.

framework is some code that allows apps to run. for example, Rosie.jar (for the launcher) allows Rosie to run. It is sort of like the base to a building.

I haven't gone and researched it, but I think it is like a resource.
[Nook Color Android Development] paleh0rse:
Do you understand that the Sense framework is the "base" for this entire project of yours; and that, even if you do manage to get your hands on it, you'll quickly discover that it's VERY different from any ROM currently available on the NC?

In order to get the Sense apk's to run on any NC ROM -- CM7 n87, for example -- you are going to have to port everything from the Sense-specific framework over to the CM7 framework, while simultaneously maintaining CM7's full framework functionality. The merger of these different frameworks is exactly what makes such a port so difficult.

So, at the very least, you're going to need to know, and completely understand, how the entire CM7 framework functions.

You'd probably be better off creating a "Sense emulator" of some sort than trying to merge the frameworks.

Heck, it may even be faster to rewrite each of Sense apk's... from scratch! lol
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
No, it is simply the matter of copying .jar files.

I ran a logcat selecting rosie as my launcher.

It says something to do with telephony and some data thing.

If we can decompile that wifi RUU then we are out the door.
[Nook Color Android Development] paleh0rse:
lol... OK... nevermind.

Good luck kid...
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
thanks dude.
[Nook Color Android Development] xboxexpert:
LOL............
[Nook Color Android Development] jaysckap:
Do you know what a RUU is?

Sent from my badass tbolt rockin BAMF
[Nook Color Android Development] joenathane:
You are completely and wholly wrong.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
I know what a ROM Update Utility. And the frameworks are installed. We did it by copying files. If you didn't, that's your problem. They only FC cause of the radio garbage.
[Nook Color Android Development] paleh0rse:
That post of his was actually the first one where I began to think he's an older troll. It was almost TOO ignorant... almost intentionally so.

He's still good for a laugh, though, so I hope they keep this thread open! :)
[Nook Color Android Development] joenathane:
I googled his username, there is someone going by ikingblack posting in hackintosh forums

several post down here

http://www.tonymacx86.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14668

and a profile here

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showuser=778096

and appbrain is reporting an ikingblack with an HTC Flyer http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com (scroll down)

I think he may really just be a little kid... not sure though.
[Nook Color Android Development] wumpus11:
Bots!

I think I finally understand. We're part of an experiment in which someone is testing a conversation bot.

Well done to have gotten this far! But I call Turing Test fail.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Lol. We are not bots. Out a question a bot couldnt answer and I will
[Nook Color Android Development] Salt72:
Zero Chance

I believe there is ZERO chance that these two are 11 years old. Mid to late teens at worst.
[Nook Color Android Development] Slack3r:
This statement is false.
[Nook Color Android Development] psychoace:
What about hacking the kernel? The flyer runs at 1.5GHz while our nook tops out at 1.3. Do you know how to reconfigure and compile a kernel?

Also you do understand most of the people who are criticizing you have a better understanding of the system then you two do. So understand when they say it's not as easy as just copy and pasting system files then you should understand if you were able to decompile the sys image you are going to run into bigger problems beyond that wall. Nothing just magically works in this environment. Considering both devices don't have the exact same hardware you are going to run into configuration setups that will need to fixed. So please if you want to learn about android we would all suggest that you make an app. There is nothing wrong with starting from the bottom
[Nook Color Android Development] luigi90210:
LMFAO

what would happen if Pinocchio said "my nose will grow"?

whats -1 / 0 = ?

oh and What is the derivative of x? 2x? 1,000,000x?
[Nook Color Android Development] I Am Marino:
Honestly, does this thread serve a purpose anymore seriously?

If there's actual development going on, cool, if not, close this.
[Nook Color Android Development] luigi90210:
i second this
[Nook Color Android Development] invisiblek:
third, bump
[Nook Color Android Development] ColdH33t:
Isn't that undef lol? Zero Division Error isn't really a prob as long as you throw in the exception lol.
[Nook Color Android Development] jimgpayne:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....

>oh, my side hurts!<
[Nook Color Android Development] jimgpayne:
huh?

What's that mean in English?
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
There is development going on. And we have already decompiled/recompiled the kernel and ramdisk for the Nook Color. And I don't know what half of those math questions mean anyway.
[Nook Color Android Development] jaysckap:
Where's our picture?

Sent from my badass tbolt rockin BAMF
[Nook Color Android Development] jayfr76:
Not trying to knock what you kids are doing. But I have seen people try and fail time and again with porting sense. Take My phone for example, the Fascinate. There was a project to port sense over. It was posted here on XDA somewhere. I am pretty sure it never got out of alpha testing though. Good luck and maybe you might get it to work who knows. I think you would be better off reverse engineering the launcher and widgets, then create your own with "Sense Styling" and call it a day...
[Nook Color Android Development] Slack3r:
You sir, are a robot.
[Nook Color Android Development] Decad3nce:
Thread closed until further notice as it hasn't produced any development related material.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Side note: ikingblack and pndo1 are 11 years old!

Don't overwork us, thank you!

We also have homework.
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
PS: We have school from 6 AM to 3 PM, so we can't answer questions then. We also don't have phones, so we can't do it like that either.
[Nook Color Android Development] psychoace:
Ah ok I will back off.
[Nook Color Android Development] racks11479:
OK, now you just made me feel old. :mad:

Not a nice thing to do to! :p

Good luck though on your endeavor...

Thanks,

Racks
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
@psychoace No no, it's ok, just don't stop expecting great things from us, but just telling you.

@Racks, sorry and thanks.
[Nook Color Android Development] philburkhardt:
I think what the two of you are doing is great :D

11 years old, and you're already porting things and trying to give back to the android community. I'm gonna keep my eyes on your work. I see good things to come :)

Thanks!
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Thanks for the encouragement guys. Really, I'm really happy about all of this.
[Nook Color Android Development] 12paq:
+1

. . . .
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Thanks, 12paq.
[Nook Color Android Development] joenathane:
Get the younglings!!!!
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
@joenathane, LOL
[Nook Color Android Development] liquidhaste:
Sorry to be Debbie Downer but... this wont work, cant work, people have brought up this crazy stuff in the past in evo development. Also if these kids are really 11 i highly doubt they will release anything at all. Prove me wrong please. But dont get peoples hopes up for no reason. Nothing has ever been ported from sense to aosp.
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
Actually, it has. It may not be asop, but people have gotten Sense UI on the Moto Droid (1) and the Samsung Galaxy S series. And guess what!?!?!?!?!?! @ikingblack knows C. And I also have a dual monitor custom built Core i5 750 Hackintoshed computer in my bedroom.

EDIT: Links-

Galaxy S-http://www.theandroidsoul.com/htc-sense-ui-being-ported-to-samsung-galaxy-s/

Moto Droid-http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/28/sense-ui-ported-to-droid-htc-motorola-cringe/
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
@liquidhaste, you'll see...
[Nook Color Android Development] liquidhaste:
Im not flamming, but none of this matters to me. Just a release. Porting sense to a non-htc phone is different than porting parts or all of the sense launcher into a aosp build. Im a supporter. But highly doubtful.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
As I said, well show you.
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
As ikingblack said, we are working as hard as we can. We know there are a lot of people out there who want HTC Sense Tablet Edition (From the Flyer Dump) on their device, so we are trying to port it. You maybe right, but it is equally likely.
[Nook Color Android Development] newellj79:
freaking crazy.... 11 years old. rock on!
[Nook Color Android Development] slacka-vt:
LMAO. This got to be one of the funniest damn threads I've ever read on XDA. If these kids are legit, their English reminds me of the Asian kid from the movie "Goonies". There, hows that for aging myself? Ohh LOL.
[Nook Color Android Development] sigma0824:
It's possible.

I am using a LP skin on my Evo 4g running CM7 stable. It is pretty close to sense with all the CM goodies.

Gets you the launcher and widgets. (No weather widget though)

http://lpsense.allo-mobile.fr/lp-sense-ui-1-3/

There is also a CM7 theme called NTsense for icons etc.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=970459

Unfortunately I am doubtful also. But Please Please prove me wrong. In any case, I wish I was this far along when I was 11. Good Luck you guys. Let me know if I can help in any way. If you can get this stable and working. Put up a donate tag. I will be sending some dough to show my gratitude.
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
Once we finish the ROM, since it is based on CM7 without HTC style, we are going to include NTSense. Also, ikingblack has made a guide for making CM7 look like Sense in Themes and Apps section. Not a Sense ROM, but close enough..
[Nook Color Android Development] bchau:
I would never underestimate what youngsters can achieve these days. I hope you guys would be able to pull this off. I am a big fan of the HTC Sense UI. If you can port it to NC, that would be wonderful. I will monitor this thread closely.

Good Luck.
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
Thanks from me and ikingblack.
[Nook Color Android Development] insaneturbo13:
i would like a release as much as the next guy but you should try to be a little more supportive... and patient. let everyone get a taste of whats to come and whats possible if you think outside of the box.

this has already been done on the i9000, based on cm7 :rolleyes:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044637

oxymoronic dont you think?

edit: my 2 cents, i think you guys are doing great work, i stand behind anyone who is even attempting developing, have fun with it and dont let people get to you, if you get bored walk away from the code for a while, it can burn you out really quick, so dont forget to have fun. :)
[Nook Color Android Development] Colchiro:
Quit the kid-bashing and let them get to work. :D

I like Sense.
[Nook Color Android Development] sigma0824:
sources

Are you going to release your source code also? I would like to contribute when the time comes.
[Nook Color Android Development] RileyGrant:
What the ****? This is incredible, I thought me being in high school was young. But I mean, if they pull this off then more power to you. My mind would be blown.

Plus, with the new m10 tool out, porting the htc flyer sense 3 will become a lot easier. Youll just need to find the compression/expansion ratio between the screen resolutions. Flyer rom has been ported to the desire and desire hd and in all honesty it would probably be easier just to port the whole rom, save you gobbles and gobbles of time editing the framework and other dependencies.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Thanks for the encouragement, sigma0824, LOL slacka-vt, and Sorry we can't put up a donate button because out parents would never let us. Plus, we already have what we need.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
@RileyGrant, yes, after this we will start porting the HTC Flyer ROM to Nook Color.
[Nook Color Android Development] Kelvala:
With 3 kids of my own....an none of them have an interest in coding...you guys ROCK!

If I was you, that quote would be my sig line! Simply awesome! Good luck guys!!! :cool::cool:
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Alright I put it in my sig...
[Nook Color Android Development] chrisryn:
Keep at it and don't let the people here get you down. Me and my development team from the captivate took this flack for awhile then released one of the most popular roms for the captivate. Keep at it and ignore the downers.
[Nook Color Android Development] jimm2:
I can confirm these kids are indeed legit. Pndo1 is my 11 year old son and he's far surpassed me in his knowledge of Android and I'm a systems engineer by trade. Both he and ikingblack know this is a difficult challenge but please give them a chance and an opportunity to expand their knowledge.

Thanks to everyone for your support!
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Stat update: we are looking at the galaxy i9000 sense port to help our proj.
[Nook Color Android Development] psychoace:
All I see from that is full roms on the Samsung device and not an app port. I would think the only way to get sense on the Nook is to use a full rom because there is so much baked into it's framework that connects to each app it's impossible to do it with a stock rom.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Yeah, we just looked at it and found out yes, we are going the whole ROM way now.
[Nook Color Android Development] Arbelzapf:
You two are great :)

I'll closely follow this thread and I'm looking forward to any progress from you. You really should talk your parents into allowing you to set up a donation link :cool:
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Thank you, Arbelsapf, and I really don't want a donation link.
[Nook Color Android Development] 360Razir:
Good luck to you both
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Announcement!

We are now accepting submissions for testing our ROM before release. Please email me at ikingblack@gmail.com if you would like to try out.
[Nook Color Android Development] xdajunkman:
Good luck you guys. Don't let any doubters here discourage you. If it can't be done, then you will find this out for yourselves....and probably learn a heck of a lot along the way. Its great to see you guys interested and engaged like this. I only wish there was a community like this when I was your age....I wrote my first program on a 5.25 floppy disc in an Apple IIe. Jeez I'm old.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Thanks for the support. And imagine what it is like for us. "I want to grow up and buy my own house!" is one of the things I think of a lot.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Ramdisk

Yeah. What he said.
[Nook Color Android Development] GabrialDestruir:
Check NookColor's Wiki, there's a guide on there on how to compile Kernel and Ramdisk. Good luck.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Thank you for the info
[Nook Color Android Development] pndo1:
Thanks @GabrialDestruir
[Nook Color Android Development] indagroove:
Here's a newer HTC Flyer ROM, and it's WWE:

RUU_Flyer_HTC_WWE_1.36.405.4_Radio_20.35.30.089BU_3809.04.04.21_M_release_188272_signed.exe

Thanks to Football for the rom.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
We got it working, we don't need that.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Umm, we need more beta testers.
[Nook Color Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Just sent an offer to test and help develop. Since there was PC talk, I gotz an i7 and 6870
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Of course, yes, thank you.
[Nook Color Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Liking the name. InfiniSense.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
Thanks, Marcus.
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
RC2 is out for testers
[Nook Color Android Development] 12paq:
cool.

. . .
[Nook Color Android Development] AidenM:
@12paq You caught me in the best mood ever! Check you PMs.
[Nook Color Android Development] racks11479:
May I flash please!
[Nook Color Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I didn't get a link! :(
[Nook Color Android Development] psychoace:
nm, I read another post incorrectly.