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[LG Optimus 2x] spawndk:
Android beats IOS in every way, and I normally prefer my Android units over my Iphone4

However in terms of the Optimus 2x I highly recommend not to buy

This phone is the worst piece of cr** I have ever owned. Not because of hardware, which is excellent, not because of Android - but simply because of LG's useless cripling software implementation. Its so filled with bugs and so poor that even ordinary day to day use experience is terrible, worse than a 2 year old first generation Android phone. Not only does the phone randomly reboot or bsod - but it also lags in every ordinary Android operation you do on the phone, despite the hardware being so powerfull making it a pest to use. It does so because of memoryleaks causing the phone to constantly run low on memory, lower than what Android require for smooth operation.

The only thing that works reasonably well is gameplaying, but everything else is a constant pain.

I hate Apple and their products - even though Im forced to use an iPhone 4 as workphone - but nomatter how much I hate Apple the truth is that products like the iPhone simply just works - all the time. Using an iphone give a user satisfaction in a completely different league, because when you use it everything works, you never sit back with a feeling of frustration about lag, about applications force closing, about this or that. It may be cripled in terms of functionality by the Apple politics, but if you as user can accept the functionality it offers, then the experience of what it offers are allways perfect.

In that respect the iphone 4 are miles ahead of the LG optimus 2x and the user experience are tons better. Doesnt matter if the LG beat the iphone on paper specs, when the real world experience are so poor. Doesnt matter if the screen are bigger, or if it has dual core etc. when the manufacturer cannot make the OS work.

Like I said Im not a fan of Apple in any way, but Im not a blind fool either and when I compare everyday use on my iphone to my LG, I could just cry about how poorly LG has implemented this phone and how bad it makes Android look - and this is spoken by an Android "fanboy"
[LG Optimus 2x] Meltus:
I've owned my O2x for 3 weeks and not had a single reboot/BSOD, not lagged once (seriously, even on the stock firmware this thing flies!) and it got even better when i flashed CM7 on it.

This is easily the best phone i've ever owned. The build quality is fatastic, it's fast as hell and battery life is awesome on CM7 too (can get about 3days out of it under normal use, longer if i underclock it, etc).

Then again, i see so many people complaining about reboots/BSOD, lagging, etc., it just seems like luck; you'll either get a perfectly working version or one that's buggy as hell.

If anyone asks me whether they should buy it i'd say yes, but watch out for reboots, and lagging and if you experience them, return the phone and buy it from somewhere else, because it's frankly amazing when you get a working version :D

Had a go on a SGS2 the other day and it's nothing compared to this. It feels cheap, it's way too light (feels like a dummy phone), build quality isn't great, it lagged quite a bit and it costs about £200 more :p
[LG Optimus 2x] spawndk:
I dont beleive your phone doesnt lag

Goto market, install an application, then try to install another application at the same time, then back out and pull down the notification bar - and it will lag extensively

My single core HTC Desire doesnt lag at all doing the same thing.

Check free mem - at any given time the memory will be down to around 80mb or below - my HTC Desire never runs below 140mb free mem - both running completely stock and my Desire never lags at all nomatter what I do while the LG constantly has to refresh and reload causing the phone to lag. I have two LG optimus, both behave the same way.

This is due to poor implementation on the LG - wrong memory optimisation, wrong minfree optimisation, poor i/o optimisation, wrong dexopt implementation etc. etc. - Sure some can be fixed by adding custom roms and performance fixes but I dont run custom roms - dont beleive I should have to.

This should be fixed by LG for the 95% customers that dont run custom roms, they shouldent have to resort to Pauls fixes etc. etc.

And I have also tried the SGS II and it runs cirkles around my LG in normal operation.

Yes, the SGS II feels like cheap plastic and I much prefer the LG build - but Im really pissed about the way LG butchered my Optimus 2x - they had all the chances of making a great phone and they totally and utterly blew it with their lousy OS implementation.

Sure it may be better later on - or it may not

Whos to say they are not also going to blow it when they release gingerbread sometime in the future - my faith are very low. And why the heck did I have to run some beta froyo for months while all the competition gets released with gingerbread long time before LG gets finished with their gingerbread. It sucks.

Im sorry, but nothing you or anyone else can say will make me feel different - Im not a noob, I have owned and tried so many different Android devices, tablets and phones, I have lots of experience on how android devices should run, and lots of experience on making them perform well (with or without custom roms) - and I have never felt so cheated as I have with the Optimus 2x

Its pathetic how poor the LG froyo build is - and its pathetic the way LG ignores their customers and the issues they have instead of following up and releasing some patches.

The internet is flooded with unhappy customer response, petitions, facebook groups, forum complaints, tech sites etc. - and what does LG do ? nothing, silence and denial, then promisses of fixes that dont fix anything, then more silence and denial, then more promisses of fixes which still isnt out.

The most frustrating part is I should know better - I have previously owned 2 other LG models - and it was exactly the same, good potential but poor software that never got fixed

I beat myself up for being so stupid to think it may be better this time around for LG - well its not, and I seriously doubt it will be.
[LG Optimus 2x] roool:
Hello,

And what about behavior with custom rom?

It s laggy too?

Thx.
[LG Optimus 2x] SolidAudio:
Orignal its only laggy in homescreen. Whit a new homescreen its just fine.

Ive been trying some other ROMs and it was even better then. CM7 is not finish yet, but it is smooot. Now Im using BlazingDragon_v1.7(v1.8 is out) and its better then ever before.

I think(hope) LG has learn a whole lot of thing when they are sending out their next rom that's based on Android 2.3.3.
[LG Optimus 2x] xilw3r:
then my dear friend you are missing THE greatest feature android has. if you are not MODDING your phone, dont even think about getting android, go for any other OS but android.

edit, ok now i finished reading your post (lol, i know), but still i do not think 2x is such a bad phone. it lags in the homescreen and i dont see any people complaining about memory leaks (maybe cuz the phone works anyway.. idk) true, its not perfect, but the only reason id buy it is the developer support which will make this thing great. or so i hope
[LG Optimus 2x] Blizze:
My o2x works perfect the way I want with custom rom. If you‘re into that kind of stuff it‘s a perfect phone!
[LG Optimus 2x] F4113n:
Where did you get these troubles? I have O2X and it runs perfectly and have very wide and acting App collection.

Tho this is my first Droid phone and haven't tried so many other Phones with it but this was "good to my hand" at start so i bought it. :)

Supported on most Roms such as CyanogenMod 7 and Gilg@m

HTC got also good droid models like desire HD ja Z

And that depends what you want from phone the most?

I think this didn't helped you to deside but i wish you good luck to deside :)
[LG Optimus 2x] markop90:
The o2x is a good phone, the hardware is really good, but the LG software optimization sucks...with stock rom the phone always lags and it has random reboots, but with the Cyanogenmod the phone totally changes, it becomes really smooth..it often freezes and there are some little bugs, but i have a nighty rom so that's normal...waiting for the stable release of this terrific rom (i guess it will come out when LG will release the 2.3 update)
[LG Optimus 2x] Kag:
If you want a phone which works well out of the box then O2X isn't for you. (In fact most android phones isn't for you)

This phone needs 3rd party ROM for it to be problem free, so if you aren't comfortable with flashing choose another phone or wait for a new firmware before you buy.

Most vendors release these phones with buggy software giving android a bad rep.

If you have time to play around and like to customize, android is for you.
[LG Optimus 2x] awf:
Couldn't agree more one laggy phone full off bugs it's said because when it works it's an amazing phone :-)
[LG Optimus 2x] simonh94:
Hmm... I have no clue... if I should get it or not. I don't see any other alternatives that are in the same price range. I want a future proof phone, so I'm thinking a dual core should be quite future proof. But I guess if the O2X doesn't work properly then a single core would be a better choice. I'm not gonna change phone for about 3 years or more. So a future proof phone is quite important for me.

I'm not gonna mod it.

Is there any other OS alternatives that I want? No. I will NEVER buy anything from apple.

What problems have been fixed?

I'm so confused! :(
[LG Optimus 2x] n3n00:
If you like games, don't even think about non-Tegra2 device. My opinion. I read O2X forum everyday, and I always find some great mod/kernel/ROM. Now they can even record 1080@30fps videos and it really looks great. I'm modding my Milestone often, so I wont mind modding this Tegra 2 beast :].

Why not modding it, I mean, I got MS in July 2010, didn't know anything about Android. 3 months later, first flash, then I've turned to a ROM slut :D!
[LG Optimus 2x] paul_cad44:
Ive had this phone now for 3 days and im impressed its on a stock rom but i have rooted it.

No freezes / BSOD or any other issues apart form poor battery but i have since solved this and have now have 69% battery from over 12 hours use! which is pretty good for a smart phone, ive sent several texts, checked facebook a few times, installed a few apps of the market place and played a few games for about 30 minutes.

Id definetly recomend it to anyone, i havent noticed any lag on any screens, once it gets gingerbread offically this will be an awesome phone and definetly worth the £330 i paid sim free from play.com

If anyones interested the trick for the battery life is this:

1) Install JuiceDefender (free version) set to agressive mode.

2) Change your network to GSM when you dont required high speed internet, your apps will still beable to update using gprs or edge but it will eat up less battery. Turn it back to WCDMA when you require high speed internet.

3) Use wifi instead of WCDMA at home as it eats up less battery.

All in all im impressed , i was umming and arhhing about getting it from the negative press about BSOD , lagg etc but like i said no issues for me yet. Especially as more games come out for the tegra 2 platform, oh and you can also link your wii remotes as a games controller, that with the ability to display the screen on your tv using hdmi mirroring means this phone is a winner for me!
[LG Optimus 2x] awf:
Fine for you and I hope that it stays that way but we had two O2X that worked perfect for three weeks lol and one for almost 2 months before the horror stories started, so be very careful to conclude after 3 days :D

As for your advise thanks but number 1 is pin pointed as one of the reason users has the BSOD to begin with ;-)

Every O2X lags especially when installing apps from the market or cache related stuff after and uptime for more then 5 days ;-)

For me personally want to have this one first stable before I move on a customized rom :-)
[LG Optimus 2x] paul_cad44:
Fingers crossed i dont have any issues, i did notice that im running the 10d rom not the 10b one so hopefully this maybe ok.
[LG Optimus 2x] more2come:
I wanted to post here earlier, but somehow I forgot ^^

A friend of mine offered me his O2X, he wants my Desire HD instead...

Did LG already publish the kernel source for their device? How smooth, stable and fast are the custom ROMs?

It would be nice to hear it from someone who was able to extensively testdrive both devices.

I really want a dualcore device, but now I'm not sure if I should wait for the HTC Sensation. Community support for HTC devices seems to be miles ahead.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
There will be next to no support for the Sensation, for the time being at least.

My O2X more than doubled my brothers DHD Quadrant score (if you're a benchmark whore). CM7 isn't really stable yet, but it's still pretty decent. The 1500mah batter should be an improvement on the DHD's 1230mah one as well.
[LG Optimus 2x] bcam117:
Maybe you don't have to be so locked down with ur choice of phone, just "if you like games".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSAJptywT8Q

And that is the very beginning.

:)
[LG Optimus 2x] Giiar:
I agree that the phone lags for a bit when installings apps, a few seconds at the most. But I don't install apps all day long :p

This is my third android phone and also the fastest. It's not perfect but I think it's the best in it's price rang. :D
[LG Optimus 2x] n3n00:
Wtf Tegra games on Exynos, with just one app and plugin used o.O ... but who knows how expensive it will be in my country :(.
[LG Optimus 2x] more2come:
I finally decided to go for the Optimus 2X and left my DHD behind. I just wanted to share my experiences so far.

After booting up my new device, I was HEAVILY disappointed. The UI was underwhelming (Sense UI really owns here) and unacceptable laggy. Everything felt and looked like it has been done with a fork and a hammer.

What really pissed me of was the fact that I had 3 FCs while using different apps. Within 15 minutes!!

Since this is my fourth Android, I'm well aware of what the community is capable of. and I know how sh**** Android 2.1 on my Milestone was.

So I prepared my device for my first mod. Permanent Root was very easy to achieve, installing and running the clockworkmod recovery was even easier.

So I flashed the latest mod by Paul aka MoDaCo. The result was very pleasing. UI runs smooth, Apps start up faster and it feels much better in every aspect!

Custom kernel with slight OC makes everything even smoother. No FC since I installed the custom rom, I feel so much better now, thanks to this great community!

LG should be ashamed of the trash they call software.

Thank you guys@XDA, thank you so much for putting so much work into your roms.
[LG Optimus 2x] xilw3r:
QFT. enough said
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Yep, we're all quite aware LG dropped the ball on the software, that's what happens when you rush something out.
[LG Optimus 2x] simonh94:
Hmm... I was about to order it now in the days. But I think I'll wait and see if they improve their SW. Since I'm gonna use this phone for at least 3 years... then I definitely don't wanna rush. But if the SW still sucks after a month or two, then I probably gonna get something else. But it's a shame since this phone would be perfect if the SW was better.
[LG Optimus 2x] Ph4nt0m_:
Hm, strange. I finally bought 2x today too and my experience so far is different. I hope I am not saying this too soon, but first impression is very good. After I've read some feedbacks here I thought, I will flash this phone the very first day. Now I decided to stay on stock ROM for now. Everything is running very smooth, no force closes, nothing as you described. I have to say it runs even better as my friends SGS 2 on stock ROM. Hope it will stay as it is :)

Ou, my build number is FRG83G, dont know if we all have the same Build... However, if phone will start acting strange, there are still custom ROMs as MoDaCo, Cyanogen... :) No reason to worry about it :P
[LG Optimus 2x] sdtaddey:
Same here, but.... i wouldn't like to get fuc**d again. It was the same for me! I mean when I bought my milestone i didn't know anything about android, and a month later i realize the piece of cra* i have bought !

So Im afraid of doing it again!

Remember that Milestone was really expensive... I'd paid 500€ for peanuts!

Now I'm able to get this at 300€, so.... what do you advise me to do?

PS: sorry for my english!!!

TIA!!!!

Edit: the most important think is RAM!!!! I mean the other things can be fixed, but I do think that 512Mb RAM for this kind of device would bring nothing but troubles, so correct me if I'm wrong...

Sent from my Milestone Powered by Gingerbread
[LG Optimus 2x] simonh94:
The ram worries me too.

From: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/lg-optimus-2x-review/

My father have a HTC Desire HD which have 768mb of ram. And he thinks the ram runs out.

But maybe I shouldn't worry about it?
[LG Optimus 2x] Dead Cell:
Hi there, count me in. I also got the 2X today from ebay (a minor almost unnoticable scratch on the screen other than that mint) and I thought it was fast and smooth. I had very low expectation after reading all the threads here on XDA for the last week or so. So I was pleasantly surprised.

I did have one reboot when I tried to install Swype Keyboard which installed fine anyway but then installed the V10D update via LG's Software Updater and so far have not had any problems whatsoever.

Also when charging, if I leave the device alone then there is no heat on the back cover what so ever but if I play with it with WiFi on etc then it does get a little warm but nothing to make me worry as it happens on my Milestone 2 so this is normal I suppose.

Are you using a micro SD card? I don't have one inserted in mine so only using the internal storage which is more than enough for me.

I do hope we are the lucky few who have good hand sets but I was more hoping that all the issues were software related rather hardware, something which a big software update would take care of! :confused:

Having said that, I am still looking to install a clean Vanila ROM as I hate all the bloatware that LG have thrown in plus the customisation etc, but will wait a week or so to see how I get on with the stock ROM.

Please do give feedback from time to time on how you get on with our 2X and I will do the same.

Cheers
[LG Optimus 2x] Giiar:
Don't think I've ever had a problem with the ram, I don't even use one of them task-killers. The only thing I don't like about the phone is LG's UI. But with the lastest MCR from Paul and ADW EX this phone runs pretty smooth. Overall, this phone is better than my previous one, the DHD. Especially when it comes to the battery life. Plus, I paid less for the p990 than I did for the DHD which I lost.
[LG Optimus 2x] Ph4nt0m_:
I don't have SD cart (yet), but I've ordered one (16 GB), so now I am waiting to get it :)

Still no reboots or any other problems. Well, I noticed a little lag when the app is installing (not downloadin), but that doesnt bother me. I can wait these 2 or 3 seconds, after all I don't install new apps all the time :D

I also played Dungeon Defenders (just testing the phone :p) for 15 minutes and the phone was just a little warm, everything normal. I really can not complain so far. And as it looks like, there is no updates for me.
[LG Optimus 2x] simonh94:
Now I might thinking it would be worth to pay a bit more to get a better phone.

So I'm thinking LG O2X VS Samsung Galaxy S2 VS HTC Sensation. Which one is best for games? Which one would be most future proof? Which one is best?
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Best for games? Probably the O2X due to the Tegra2

Most future-proof? None of them

Best over all? Matter of opinion
[LG Optimus 2x] simonh94:
So none of them is future proof? Why not?

What are the pros and cons with these phones?
[LG Optimus 2x] bobola:
Cause no one can read the future! That why!

Who knows what great phone they might put out next !?

I dont have none of the phones, but for pros and cons, you can go youtube and just search for the phone reviews.

Can even search for LG Optmius 2x vs SGS2 etc... to get a comparsion.

I been waiting to get the LG Optmuis 2x.

Just waiting to see if it hardware problem or software.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sckank:
Well after I installed custom ROM i must say I've not had one reboot. :-\ and also :-)
[LG Optimus 2x] tumza007lnw:
how long we have to wait...

we have been waiting for months

And no one can confirm that the software they are about to release can fix t his issue for sure.

Mobile is neccessary for human these days. With the exist problem, we can't use mobile freedomly.

The problem is not the money we spent with a suck phone, but it is the feeling of users that have faded away from LG.
[LG Optimus 2x] simonh94:
I've now ordered a Samsung Galaxy S2 :D
[LG Optimus 2x] pmcguire:
Don't stress it's the easiest decision ever, don't touch it with a barge pole! I unforunately jumped in after a great android experience with Nexus One and Desire, this is an infection that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

It's like herpes, it clears up but keeps coming back.
[LG Optimus 2x] overseasite:
I will be buy SGS2 after HK government give me HKD6K
[LG Optimus 2x] xxxSilverxxx:
Nexus 3! Propable specification: LG P930? 4,3-4,5" Hitachi HD IPS panel 1280×720, tegra 3, Ice cream sandwich and many more. I will sell my O2X when this beast will be available.
[LG Optimus 2x] n3n00:
So...next Google Nexus will be manufactured by LG?
[LG Optimus 2x] Ph4nt0m_:
Yes
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
No sure there's any proof of it yet, but it's highly speculated.
[LG Optimus 2x] omiblack:
If true: I'm selling my o2x to!:D
[LG Optimus 2x] Kickasskev:
Quadcore will be out next year/end of this year so just wait, or buy a cheapy to get you by.

If you want ultimate performance wait till next year, but to be honest LG2x is more than future proof for the next year + for games and software
[LG Optimus 2x] Sckank:
Or even better: wait two years and even better ones will be released!!! :P
[LG Optimus 2x] naimmkassim:
Tired of lg crap software..already give up..sale mine and bought htc Sensation!! Lol :) love the 3.0 sense..
[LG Optimus 2x] gaeng4665:
i don't care who will build it, sure is as soon as it is available i am gonna ditch the o2x and get it. probably won't see an official gingerbread release on it as it is rumored to go live somewhen in autumn... and lg sure nows how to postpone the gb update.... just my 2 cents...
[Streak 5 General] nextonline:
I dont know what's going on, but every time i want to watch a video on youtube, my phone just freezes. It happens when I quit the app, so I can watch videos just fine, but as soon as I exit, there's always an issue. Power button becomes unresponsive, so I need to take of back cover to restart my phone... Anyone else has this? Any known fix?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intelligencexan:
Hi guys,

Just yesterday i loaded Coldmod Rom... am loving the rom but it lags sometimes... i was wondering if there are any kernels recommended for Coldmod rom that will keep the battery life the same (or make it better) and help get rid of the lag that i get sometimes....

Quadrant score is coming to only 930-980.. im on the same kernel that flashed with the Coldmod 2.0 (default)

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCSoft:
Quandrant sucs , my phone is very fast more faster than JPY(1600~) score and with ColdMod 1200~ so dont trust those . i am using Fugu kernerls , about my battery 2 days ( playing games , music internet)

i think its good, so just try it
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intelligencexan:
Yeah i was just reading up on that.... thanx bro
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intelligencexan:
I tried flashing the fugu ultra kernel... now my phone wont detect the sim card
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intelligencexan:
What settings should i use when usinf fuguapp?

Also i want to know how i can revert it back to the settings that are by default when i flash coldmold rom...