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[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
sorry baltazar, but it does not matter how many times this had been said: it is a stupid thing! everyone who says this does not know what a benchmark actually is!

the massive drop in benchmark scores indicates that something has changed worse! i did not claimed that quadrants benchmark is a messure for the smoothness of your homescreen switching.

quadrant is benchmarking many different things and in every aspect of it the scores are a reliable messure for it. same hold for most of the other benchmarks. (even if there exists tricks to trick it, you do not need to use them)

if the gpu/cpu scores would have droped such amount your phone could still feel smooth while using your launcher but it would suck when playing a demanding game.

benchmarks are usually allways telling the TRUTH. but most people who are looking at benchmarks do not know how to read them!

so i beg you, stop following this totally stupid and wrong "benchmarks are stupid not telling the truth blabla" train. better lern what a benchmark is actually testing and interpret the score right.
[Desire HD Android Development] overjoy71:
jasopan

The radio file that Lee recommends can be found on Post #1, be careful flashing it. The reason Lee recommends it is because he has setup the RIL to match the radio, so it is good to run.

If you are flashing from one of Lee's ROM, you shouldn't have to wipe or clear the cache. Just download the ROM has flash again. It should keep all your data and settings.
[Desire HD Android Development] LeeDroid:
:O thanks for the heads up dude, I merged with the original ruu, must have accidentally overwritten that one!

Sent from my LeeDrOID loaded Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] baltazar.nilsson:
Search for it :D there is a whole lot of mods out there, I can link the one I use, but that one has no media volume and is transparent...
[Desire HD Android Development] baltazar.nilsson:
Okey, I´m not up for this s**t right now... I´m at work( as an it technician). So i think I have a pretty god idea of how to read a benchmark.. Fine, you say I´m wrong and a dossen other´s say I´m right.. Can we just agree to disagree mate ;)

Didn´t mean to offend you in any way, just pointing out what other´s have said before..

I for one haven´t even used the quadrant benchmark so.....
[Desire HD Android Development] sayjeng:
woooo. it's still not working for me. tried wiping cache.

tick symlink and install hosts. rebooted. untick symlink and install host. rebooted.

still same.
[Desire HD Android Development] amm009uk:
Wifi fix

As far as I can tell I've lost Wifi range. In fact it comes and goes depending the ROM of the day:rolleyes: 3.1.0 had a good range but its gone in 3.1.1. I know cause in the office I'm right at the edge of picking up a signal. All day yesterday I had a lock with 3.1.0.

Yes I'm a technician too:D
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
sorry to sound upset. i didn't got upset because of you jsut because of this thing.

note just one thing: a benchmakr is messuring one special aspect. and messuring this it tells the truth. ofcourse an arbitary benchmakr will not say the "truth" about a totally different aspect.

it is stupid to conclude from low or high benchmark scores if a rom is smoth or not regarding scrolling in app lists and switching home screens if it is not a benchmark design for exactly this!

any app actually can be a benchmark.

quadrant test some special things and if you fall down on score this things behave WORSE! and falling from 1900 to 1100 in score tells the very truth that soemthig has dramatically changed.

how could anybody say don't look at bechmark?!? look at it but take the right interpretation. something is holding the benchmark back at some of its tests. now this can be just an incompatibility of quadrant with the change of the rom or a performance bottleneck that needs to be fixed.

in day to day use this bottleneck may not be observed but this does not mean that the benchmark is lying!

think about. and also think about that most people here that write about not trusting benchmarking did it most time to defend their beloved rom.

if you are techny than you shouild know that a benchmark allways tells the truth, yes ALLWAYS! you just have to know what it actually tests to know what the scores means. benchmarks are THE technicians tool of messurement of improvement btw.

edit: tell me as a technician: how do you messure improvements or drawbacks without benchmarks? simply by looking at things and guessing? if so i don't hope you build airplanes ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] eyna:
Annoying "ticking" sound

I read a similar complain somewhere a while back but couldn't find it now...

I use the "Audible Selection".

A second after every selection sound there is a strange "Ticking" sound. I tried reflashing the rom (Still on 3.03), I tried full EXT4 wipe + reflashing, tried enabling and disabling the accessibility Talkback feature - But that annoying sound is still there!!!!

Anyone encountered similar issue (It was reported in ARHD as well)?

Thanks!
[Desire HD Android Development] Mash23:
Same here! Everything on and lost 5% in 7,5h at night! that's VERY impressive to me. And this is with Sense 3 add-ons. Cheers Lee you just made my life a bit easier ;):D
[Desire HD Android Development] jasopan:
Didn't get the new wallpaper in 3.1.1 so i flashed the sense 3.0 add-on, works alright now, cept for the connect to pc page, like most users have already stated.

I can seem to have lost my battery stats after wiping em away. anyone?

EDIT: stocks still fc's on me though
[Desire HD Android Development] Riekr:
i must agree with you but to be honest if the rom is ok for everyday use/speed needings i would prefer less battery drain instead of performance even if the perfomance MUST be adeguate.

now, with 3.0.3 i think battery drain is still ok for me so actually i'm waiting to flash 3.1.1 reading this forum and trying to understand if the reported performance loss is "higher" than the benefits of less power drain.

technically speaking: after a benchmark the difficult part of the job is to analyze the results, right now a score decrease actually says few things as i still can't locate at which it points out and what are the reflections in "real use" of the phone ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] ikostas_1:
can we update leeDroid v3.0.3 to v3.1.1 without wipe data???
[Desire HD Android Development] baltazar.nilsson:
LOL, made my day mate :D

No all I meant was that other´s before has said that the quadrant benchmark is miss guiding..

For me incase of testing the rom´s I feel it´s best to just try playing the games I usualy play..

Could have written it diffrently, sorry for that mate.. No hard feelings right ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
for the 100 times... yes.
[Desire HD Android Development] baltazar.nilsson:
Man, you´re on fire today, LOL :D`

Edit: Sorry, couldn´t help myself, ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] ijob:
As a mere mortal its true, I have no idea the ins and outs of the benchmark score, most of of who flsh Lee's Roms probably don't either. For me though, the benchmark scores plus Lee loyality to Lee, have always been a huge reason to flash the roms.

Part of the excitement is flashing and update, flashing a new kernel, letting it bed in and benchmarking the score. For as long as I have had a Desire/ HD, Lee's have always been fantastic and, yes the score is important to me because it feels like it was worth the effort.

Now here's my recent experiences....these sense 3 addons are a pain in the arse imo. I only have the weather one installed. Also, I don't know wether its coincidence but since changing to EXT4, I haven't had a good experience. Its almost like I'm on a stock, factory ROM with zero tweaks. Plus the Locations maps keeps warning that I need to update them but it wont connect. And I can't log in to HTC Sense.

I hope these are temporary issues but folks, go easy on us benchmark simpletons ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Lord_Schrotty:
cannot install

first of all, yes i did a full wipe

so my problem is when i try to install the rom (after full wipe) i get the message installation aborted. the file is corrupt.

i did check the md5 sum and it was the same. i have the latest cwm installed.

can someone help me here/make a mirror?

thanks
[Desire HD Android Development] Mash23:
If you go to HTCSense.com and try to login you'll notice that the site and propably every other site related to HTCSense are down for maintenance. So the Locations not working is not a ROM releated issue it's a issue in HTC's end :)
[Desire HD Android Development] P.I Boy:
Sorry guys, want to ask something.

Where can i download back the previous version of LeeDroid rom..? i.e v3.1.0

Can't find the link.

Edit: Nevermind guys, found it. ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
Not necessarily. It was shown some time ago that just tweaking a few things could produce a tremendous increase in Quadrant scores without actually speeding anything up. It all depends on how well the test program is written. I don't have access to Quadrant source code so can't comment as to how reliable it is as a test program.

Agreed.

As I said above, it's just as easy to get a false increase as it is to get a false decrease in performance. As far as I know, Quadrant has not been updated for quite some time now, perhaps it just can't measure GB ROMs reliably, a point which you have also mentioned.

I don't know how much knowledge and experience you have with smart digital devices (aka computers) but benchmarking them needs a different approach than analog/mechanical devices. There are just too many parameters that can be used/ignored to produce results which can be quite different even though they claim to measure the same parameter. This may depend on the hardware, the instruction set and internal coding. I can't endorse any benchmarking application as I don't know the exact algorithm for them. Ideally, a dedicated benchmark test should be written in each case where either the hardware or the software (in our case with the DHD) changes.

To sum it up: I have to say that real life usage does provide a good indication of the suitability of a device to our purpose and this may not always agree with some benchmark results.
[Desire HD Android Development] jasopan:
-Is it normal to have to confirm your area for the automatic time every restart?

-Is it possible to remove the add-ons (sense 3.0)?

-How come when i click 'battery history' in spare parts it says 'could not find battery stats activity in your rom - contact your developer' or something

Cheers guys xD
[Desire HD Android Development] shareonline:
3.1.1 doesn't work for me?

I have tried a full wipe of everything but when i install the 3.1.1 rom my phone never goes beyond the splash screen?? When i install 3.1.0 the phone works perfect??

Anybody with ideas? i thougt a full wipe and a rom install should be enough, and i'm already coming from 3.1.0 so i should also be able to just update??

I'm not flashing any add-ons or anything else but the rom before a full boot.

This have never happened to me before so i'm a little stumped:)
[Desire HD Android Development] slopppy:
http://leedroid.ftp.rshost.eu/DHD-Roms/

Older ones are in the archive directory.
[Desire HD Android Development] slopppy:
Did you check the MD5 of your download? Maybe it's incomplete ...
[Desire HD Android Development] P.I Boy:
Thanks by the way. I just found it also. ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] pinn___________:
Remove 3.0 by reflashing ROM, or I think someone did post a remove zip in this thread somewhere

Spareparts does not support GB, many other apps on Market do
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
I was able to update last night. It told me the contents were outdated, offered to update and updated. The only extra thing I did was to apply the Google maps tweak from here.
[Desire HD Android Development] L-ViZ:
Little Question to I/O patch

"This is a modified version of libsqlite.so - This patch gives significant I/O Boost by disabling sync() in sqlite3

Thanks to Ownhere for the original hack"

for me as noob, what are the influences by that patch? is it adviced to use it, never flashed it before because i don´t understand its improvements :(
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
Not recommended as you loose the search function in SMS and a few other places.
[Desire HD Android Development] ijob:
Sense 3.0 USB Selector is no longer part of the ROM either. Only just noticed that one......
[Desire HD Android Development] zoom8:
Spookamiester listen this:p
[Desire HD Android Development] ijob:
Have gone back to LeeDroid 3.03 with kernel 3.12, normal service has resumed ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] northern247:
Wifi reception seems to have dropped a bit since 3.1.1 update, I was dropping reception when just a few feet from an "N" router while other devices, including a stock DHD all.maintained their reception.

Looks like someone else has mentioned it recently too, everybody else found this to be the case?

My signal previous showed "excellent" even in different rooms and floors.

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] steve75dhd:
Coming from 3.0.3 can i still use easy upgrade wipe v1.3? or do i now have to use the ext4 full wipe? im not in the mood set everything back up at the moment so if easy upgrade is fine i'll go with that.

Cheers

Steve
[Desire HD Android Development] andyneouk:
Yeah my WiFi seems to be all over the place as well, connecting and disconnecting.

Lee, any ideas?

Fantastic Rom BTW ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Potion2:
yep it does happen here bro. my WiFi supposedly dropped on a place where I never had any disconnected issue before. Was consistent on previous version
[Desire HD Android Development] northern247:
Was driving me fricken nuts last night, the majority of the time I only get edge in my house so the speed drop was killing me!

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] SupremeBeaver:
Hmm looks like i had about 40% battery drain last night when i usually get 4%. Not too sure what caused it but i have a feeling it's this Tic Tac Toe game i downloaded last night ;)

Also this morning my cats decided to play fight and i just had to get it on film. I recorded a good 2 minutes of brilliant funny stuff but was really devastated when playing it back :( It lagged really badly. I think it might have something to do with the battery drain. Something was abusing my CPU all evening and it must have still been doing it while i was recording.

Needless to say i removed the app and will see how things go, but first to flash the 3.1.1 :D
[Desire HD Android Development] amm009uk:
WiFi ok on 3.1.0

Back on 3.1.0 and I have Wifi again right at the edge of reception:)
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
it also can be the roms fault. since 3.1.0 the quadrant score droped dramatically. as i do not have the advanced quadrant to exactly see what tests droped in scores i can only judge on the framerates seen during the tests: it seems though thatthere is some issues in the io-performance tests / disk tests.

gpu and cpu test seem to be more or less the same as before though (this confirm other benchmark apps i tested).
[Desire HD Android Development] Lord_Schrotty:
can someone put a mirror up for 3.1.1 i can't download it from lee's ftp server
[Desire HD Android Development] shareonline:
Downloadet it again and now it works! THX don't know why i forgot to check that, but thx!
[Desire HD Android Development] Dands:
Yeah something seems amiss with 3.1.1. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the silky smooth ROMs Lee develops?

Weather refresh is failing, Stocks crashes, and I have window scroll / change lag.
[Desire HD Android Development] SupremeBeaver:
I really hope it's not the rom's fault. I'll have to run some tests later on once the rom has bedded in.
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
A full wipe is recommended if you are coming from a Froyo ROM. You can use wipe 1.3 but using the Ext 4 wipe is recommended if you want to take full advantage of Ext 4.
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
me neither. i also didn't observed any issue beside of dropped quadrant scores. wifi perfect, no fc, all apps working fine and i admit battery drain is better than ever before.

but the quadrant score drop is massive and definatley indicates an issue (even if it is only a compatibility issue). falling down from arround 1800 to 1100 (while stock rom + stock kernel with ondemand already had near 1700) is nothing to be ignored.
[Desire HD Android Development] northern247:
Think I'm gonna roll back too, deleted my.old back up before I found the issue grr

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] northern247:
Muhahaha, backed it up on my computer though, excellent stuff :)

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] SupremeBeaver:
Anybody else getting this error "Cannot upload Zero Byte files." when trying to upload files to UOT?
[Desire HD Android Development] JLneonhug:
+2 on weaker WiFi reception. Reverted back to 3.1.0 for now. :)
[Desire HD Android Development] stuart0001:
Yep. WiFi is definitely weaker here too
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
this means your files you try to upload have a size of 0. did you checked that? maybe delete them and extract them again from the rom (or whereever you got them from).
[Desire HD Android Development] sayjeng:
Sense 3.0 USB selector not working anymore.

Aahh. back to 3.0.3 for now then.
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
Running @default speed, nothing disabled (real life conditions)

Device score: 1078

CPU: 2413

Memory: 1032

I/O: 1161

2D: 259

3D: 524
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
well, you have the same low total score. but i cannot compare the detailed scores as i do not have detailed score on previous roms. do you? which one dropped and how much?
[Desire HD Android Development] jasopan:
Yup I got 1100 on quadrant.

Lee where are you?! we need you!! xD
[Desire HD Android Development] crash_194:
It is gone mate yes but I've just flashed the one off the android revolution thread and its working fine.
[Desire HD Android Development] SupremeBeaver:
Yeah i know what the error message means but the files do not have byte size zero. Windows tells me they're the right size. I just pulled them directly from the rom.
[Desire HD Android Development] SupremeBeaver:
Also there seems to be a new option called "update-binary" under Edify Scripting. Im guessing we choose type EMMC?
[Desire HD Android Development] ijob:
Reflash LeeDroid 3.03 rom with kernel 3.12 from his archives.

http://leedroid.ftp.rshost.eu/DHD-Roms/

I expect Lee will be a having a break, its all very stressful developing these Roms especially with a young family.
[Desire HD Android Development] mohit1234:
Yeah, after full wipe for 3.1.0 and 3.1.1 , wifi strength seems weaker, benchmarks are much much lower, FCs in the weather app and when I get a call the phone app also FCs. :( ... I think ill go back to 3.0.3..

Do I need to full wipe to go back to 3.0.3 or can I just flash it over 3.1.1?

Thanks. Hope these problems get fixed for me in the next ROM update...
[Desire HD Android Development] COOLBGT:
Just made a full wipe to ext4 and flashed the new Rom. WiFi is worse than 3.0.3 as it keeps dropping where I had low signal before. Also can somebody pls tell me how to remove the transperant appdrawer because the one on page one is not working. Thanks
[Desire HD Android Development] mitko76:
Hi just one question (and I am prety sure the answer will be "Yes", but just in case).

I want clear GB rom, definitely with no sense 3 parts, so thats way I am using ARHD. my question is can i still use the "EXT4 Cache & Dalvik cache cleaner" from the first page?

thanks
[Desire HD Android Development] SupremeBeaver:
Ok ignore my problems with regards to UOT not uploading. I changed to Firefox and it works now :)

But im still not sure whether to choose EMMC or MTD. Anyone could chime in here?
[Desire HD Android Development] Mash23:
I used the MTD on my mods no problems.
[Desire HD Android Development] broncogr:
same here

MTD
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
i used mtd without issues. didn't even saw it previously and left it default. but i just checked back what i had selected when i cooked my mod.
[Desire HD Android Development] SupremeBeaver:
Alright thanks guys. MTD it is!
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
guys, i just pissed in my pants as i can't believe this....

i never had serious gps issue but i allways wondered how people claimed to get lock to satalites even indoors and even get a full lock. i never got a single satelite even close to window.

i tried this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1101066

and within 20 sec i got 5 satelites sitting here in my office near the window.

but be warned!!! you need a very thin skewdriver to be able to open that and you can easaly scratch your case. but for anybody that has the skills and is willing to risk it is worth trying that out.

edit: wow, amazing how my dhd improves since i bought it.... tegra2 games, indoor gps fix, call recording, ... etc.
[Desire HD Android Development] amm009uk:
I'm so tempted to do that but I'm only holding on to DHD until Sensation is fully unlocked. Did you scratch yours?
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
at first trying it with the wrong skewdriver a very little. but then i took a thinner one and managed to do it without any scratches. but the first one is not be seen except i directly point at it.

i am still amazed but if your gps is working satisfatory i do not recomend to do this if you can't handle a scratch. for me it was just the fun of doing such things ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] jasopan:
Hey guys

-Is it possible to revert to 3.0.3 (from 3.1.1) by just flashing and not formatting anything?

-How can I read my cpu usage? as in what apps are killing me? -70ma on standby right now
[Desire HD Android Development] baltazar.nilsson:
Yeah, this worked great.. Easy to, IMO. I used a very thin pocket knife instead and it took about 60 sec to fix it all :D

@ a user: what gps program do you use?? Any test app or maps or??? Thanxs :)

Edit: I use gps test & get 2-5 inside at my desk and 5-10 at the window.. Earlier none inside and max 1-2 at window..
[Desire HD Android Development] hamdir:
Lee keeps ignoring me :( i havent been able to download the sense 3 stuff since the first release, simply because the naming of the file isn't changing and my network proxy server is caching the files...
[Desire HD Android Development] SupremeBeaver:
I'll try get mirrors up for you mate.
[Desire HD Android Development] andreasy:
Delete your browser cache or download from other browser.
[Desire HD Android Development] mathewr:
Thanks for the update Lee, updated and working great as usual.

One thing that I have noticed missing in the 3.xx is in the sense phone book, there is no longer a button (at the bottom that looks like the earth) that you can press to search the exchange DIR.

Has this purposely been removed, or is there something else I need to do to activate this feature?

Thanks,
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
i use gps status.
[Desire HD Android Development] SupremeBeaver:
Alright so i've got everything set up perfectly :D No Wifi issues here like some reported. I'll be sharing my UOT mod for those interested.
[Desire HD Android Development] SupremeBeaver:
Alright here it is. It has stock HTC icons, Froyo style transparent notification pulldown (60% transparency), and custom % battery icons. Don't forget to mount /system before you flash.

And for cat lovers that's my 2.5 week old kitty :) I call him Little Musketeer lol
[Desire HD Android Development] hamdir:
its not my browser its my network, not in my control, its a good idea to have dates added to the addon zip file
[Desire HD Android Development] baltazar.nilsson:
Crazy cute mate.. I miss having a kitten, mine is 2 years now.. Thinking about getting 1 more... :D
[Desire HD Android Development] eyna:
Anyone????