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[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
I'm sorry could you please explain what you said?

is Drag and Drop an app for the Mac OS X?

And which android file manager would you recommend?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
http://www.android.com/filetransfer/ this
[Eee Pad Transformer General] freakdahouse:
Hum, I have a mac and never needed that to tranfer files to my Sgs.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
It's a honeycomb thing.

Actually it's a OSX thing.

There isn't a USB mount function in honeycomb, instead there's MTP so honeycomb can access internal memory even when it's mounted with the PC.

OSX doesn't have built in MTP drivers like windows.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] freakdahouse:
Aah ok ok! I wasn't aware of that in honeycomb eheh
[Eee Pad Transformer General] tprevett:
I bought an Ipad2, and returned it the next day for a Xoom. I really wanted to love it. Yes, UI is smooth, but I really hated the fact that it had very little end user configuration available. But the main reason I returned it was: (see attatched photo showing properties of an iPad photo)

That is correct 720x960x72 dpi Full Resolution of the rear Camera.

How does apple make so much money? Sell their fan boys sub par equipment, so that in 6 months, they can turn around and sell their fan boys an iPad3 with the cameras which should have been in the iPad2. I can just hear Mr. Skeleton in the board room.. "no we can't give them what they want, just give them a little tease, they will buy, and then we can get them to buy again in another 6 months."

Apples Motto should be "Bend Over!"

Just so you are aware 720x960=691,200 Just over 1/2 megapixel.. I believe my first Sony digital camera which laid down photos on a floppy disk took better pictures :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
They did say 720p, nothing more nothing less :p

Well actually it's even worse, it's 720p in a 4:3 ratio.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] tprevett:
yah.. the xoom takes 720p video but stills are 2592x1944 sample photo attached

FYI - Content Relation - I returned my Xoom and ordered 2 Transformers which I'll pickup Monday...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
I had no idea this thing even existed. Thank you so much!!!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] bobdude5:
I really really really hope google gives away honeycomb tablets at Google IO this year. Not only because im going :D, but because it will get honeycomb in the hands of developers so they can bring apps
[Eee Pad Transformer General] keroppilee:
My roommate tried xoom and ipad 2 and his conclusion was honeycomb was just not ready and the core user experience (video, internet etc) just wasn't as good on honeycomb. I've been playing with his xoom before he returns it and I have noticed some subtle differences in the quality of some of the basics. Examples like this forum's main index page (the one with all the different phones and tablets forums listed) bogs down so much I can't scroll through it. Youtube also looks smoother on the ipad (i wonder if this is mostly cause honeycomb and flash just arent running as well as they should). I havent seen a transformer but Im just guessing it might be similar since the hardware is the same. im kinda torn between android and ios for a tablet now...i like being able to customize everything with android but at the same time if some of these little things dont ever get better then it's not really worth it..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] donatom3:
I've had as many if not more iPhone apps crash on my iPad as I do regular Android on my transformer. Plus regular Android apps actually look good on the tablet the same cannot be said for ipad apps.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Ravynmagi:
I went from an iPad to a Transformer. And I'm happy with the choice of not going with an iPad 2.

* I don't like having to use iTunes.

* I wanted an micro SD card slot.

* I want a file system and more freedom with my OS.

* I want a good YouTube app.

Unfortunately I had to give up a few things with the Transformer.

* Honeycomb and apps still have stability issues.

* The UI still is a bit laggy.

* No Netflix app (probably will never happen for non-Snapdragon based tablets).

* Honeycomb apps are few and still of lower quality.

I think the apps probably will start remedying itself this year.

And I'm sure the stability issues will be improved this year too.

Not too optimistic about the lagginess of the UI though, it's not too bad and I suspect it won't be a priority, so probably longer off before we see a more fluid experience.

I really hate not being able to watch Netflix on my Transformer. Not sure this will ever be remedied for the Transformer.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Highland3r:
honeycomb is in it's early days. The os, the infrastructure, the apps are all going to take a bit of time to mature.

Owning both, the transformer feels smewhat of a beta product. Good case in point, this post is beinng typed from the iPad due to the bad lag present when posting on some forums.

Improvements are coming but things are going to take a little time. You can see the potential of the android/ tegra platform - just look at some of the tablet apps emerging and the games available.

In 6 months time, as the number of honeycomb tablets increases I imagine the platform will have matured and improved a lot - hopefully into an experience to rival the iPad.

The two platforms (to me) seem to have different strengths. Both are stronger in areas and weaker in others. For me, the iPad edges things at the moment - but that's a personal choice due to my usage of the tablet.

Things could well change when the keyboard dock arrives, that remains to be seen!

My advice would be to have a play with both. Work out what you would use the tablet for and choose accordingly.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
i haven't noticed any lag at all while browsing and posting on xda, in fact I'm doing it right now.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jimbob1971:
in terms of browsing you can always use another browser :D I'm using Dolphin HD and it is much faster. Admittedly work is still ongoing so it does crash sometimes, but the gestures are great as is the speed of it, and the fact that flash is apparently faster
[Eee Pad Transformer General] EvoXOhio:
Why do so many people care about the smoothness of scrolling and such? I mean yeah ideally it would be nice if it was perfect, but I would much rather have the extra features of honeycomb and sacrifice some smoothness, then have a buttery smooth iOS completely lacking in features.

Besides, I own windows, Mac, and Linux computers, and you know what? They ALL hang from time to time, lock up, scroll poorly, etc. In my opinion, even the worst issue I have encountered on honeycomb still makes the OS a much better daily driver than windows, Mac, or Linux.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Nascar Dog:
This is why I will enjoy owning an iPad 2 and a Transformer.

The best of both worlds. :)

Same reason I own a PC and a Mac.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] silverx:
i am quite interested what accessories that ipad offers that transformer doesnt have. serious question

transformer + keyboard has everything that someone probably need, from hdmi, webcam, usb, extended battery, cover/enclosing/smart cover or whatever they call it in iworld
[Eee Pad Transformer General] starplaya93:
If you were to look at an ipad and an iphone you will see absolutely no differences in anything. Not the layout or the way the OS functions, the only difference is screen size. Argue the technicalities all you want, but they are the same exact thing in terms of functionality.

Honeycomb on the other hand was built from the ground up with tablets in mind. When you look at a honeycomb tablet and a gingerbread device the differences are very evident at first glance and become even more so when you begin using the two devices.

Argue it all you want, but the ipad IS just an over-sized ipod/iphone.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] keroppilee:
Im not arguing at all. I feel strongly that the iPad is a giant iPhone. However my point was that there is a distinct lack of fluidity and completeness. Like am I the only one that has noticed YouTube stutters a bit on honeycomb tablets? Even the ipad 1 with a compatable processor can get YouTube right. Let alone the way faster iPad 2. I don't love the limitations of iOS but if you're paying 4-500$ for a tablet you don't want to gamble on the basic functionality improving? Like slight gesture lag is mostly annoying but more disturbing because it feels like if apple can do it why can't honeycomb?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] donatom3:
Honeycomb has built in drm support which is something the other versions of Android don't. This is why the snapdragon is needed for Netflix. So hopefully Honeycomb will get a Netflix app.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dfin13:
Well the Transformer has a case ("a" case ... one case ...) and the keyboard dock currently for sale, so I refuse to believe that is a "serious question." Unless you throw in every ill-fitting netbook sleeve out there, I think the iPad has it beat in the accessory department.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Srikar_NBK:
I have a similar policy too :D

I got an Asus laptop recently, that is having major graphics issues with Nvidia driver on Linux. Decided not to buy an Asus laptop again :mad:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] donatom3:
I'm sure you'd have that problem on any laptop with that same nvidia gpu.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] redshirt72:
How is video quality between the two? I travel a lot for work and have a lot of 720p anime mkv's that I'd love to play to kill time. Also how do respective comic book readers look on the two versus one another?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] silverx:
Well that 1 keyboard offers more than 5 accessories functionality that ipad might need. USB, HDMI, smart cover, battery, mouse n keyboard. That USB port alone has opened up host of accessories that can be used with transformer such as external hard drive, wireless keyboard n mouse etc

The only reason why ipad needs so many accessories is it lacks too many features in the first place
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
I can't say I can see any sense whatsoever in this statement! Obviously a tablet doesn't have a keyboard and mouse, so clearly these are accessories that have nothing to do with the lack of features in the iPad.

IMO, the only thing that's missing from the iPad is built-in HDMI out, but since you can buy an adaptor I don't really see a problem here.

One of the clear strengths of the Apple iPhone/iPad ecosystem is the existence of a standard "dock" adaptor meaning that there are a plethora of devices that you can just pop into any store and pick up that will connect to the iPhone/iPad.

Regards.

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SonicTab:
Most iPad owners do not want any accessories, they use the tablet as is.

For those that do they are available.

If one needs a keyboard dock all the time wouldn't a thin light laptop be better?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] eviltuna:
I've got a 32GB iPad 2 and picked up a Transformer as well, hands down the TF is a nicer device, I was going to return the transformer but only cause I wanted to wait for the 32GB version.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] silverx:
sigh... i wasnt specifically pointing out ipad2 is lacking kb n mouse, i was saying the keyboard dock for tf serves 5 or more functionality of ipad2 accessories

the features that ipad2 lacking, as you pointed out, is hdmi, hence you need an adapter, accessory to accomplish that. add usb support as well to that list

back to my question, may i know what accessories that tf is missing out from the ipad massive accessories collections?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
Sigh..... ;)

That only matters if you want HDMI out! It isn't exactly much of a hardship to go buy an adaptor if you need it?

Personally, I have an HTC Media Link, so I don't *need* HDMI, though it is definitely convenient.

If you are going to berate the iPad for not having USB support, you have to do the same with the Transformer since it doesn't have it without additional purchases either (whether it be the KB dock, USB adaptor, or convertor cable).

Plenty of things - such as this: http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/17278795/iLuv-Stereo-Speaker-Dock-for-iPad-iPhone-iPod-IMM747/Product.html?_%24ja=tsid:11518|cat:17278795|prd:17278795

The iPads ability to output to VGA, or composite video, via adaptor accessories is also very useful if you want to attach your device to a projector, as these often don't have HDMI support.

You can buy iPad accessories for these functions, but no such accessories (as yet) exist for the Transformer, and chances are they never will.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] silverx:
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[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
The accessories in themselves are tiny - there really is little inconvenience in carrying them around.

With specific regard to HDMI, I've yet to see a hotel room provide an HDMI cable, let alone a mini-HDMI to full-HDMI cable, so where I've used my tablets away from home, I've *always* had to take my HDMI cable (or lately my HTC Media Link) with me, so if I were an iPad owner, I really don't see the inconvenience of taking an adaptor smaller than a box of matches with me, which I could leave attached to the very same cable I'd have to be toting around with the Transformer anyway!

The point is that you cannot dismiss the iPad accessory ecosystem as a weakness of the iPad, when it is clearly a strength!

The keyboard dock for the TF is clearly a great thing, and mine should hopefully arrive soon. However, I know for a fact that I will be purchasing the separate USB host adaptor for the TF because it will likely be more convenient to carry it around than the keyboard in most cases.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] silverx:
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[Eee Pad Transformer General] joe_dude:
The point is why would does it have to be *two* devices? Who really wants to carry a tablet AND a laptop when one Transformer can take care of work and play.

This is classic up-selling. Apple hooks you with a cheaper, inadequate device, forcing you to buy a second, more expensive device.

Money efficiency should always be considered whether you are rich or poor.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] joe_dude:
Agreed, but Apple will never allow iPad accessories that would jeopardize sales of Macbooks. They've threaten vendors/suppliers before.

The iPad will remain a limited-functionality product, tied to iTunes and a "real" computer, for the foreseeable future. If you want to do more, Apple wants you to buy a Macbook. Android tablets do not have this restriction... the skies the limit!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] vulcan195:
Which is better an Android Tablet or an Apple Tablet ?

Would you buy real-estate in an area close to the action ... or ... in a less-expensive area of town ... away from most of the action, where things are not so great right now ... and once in a while, the power goes off ... all in the hope that things will get better.

In this analogy ... "action" is the availability of apps.

Anybody who compares an Apple Tablet to an Android Tablet without comparing the app base ... should not be taken very seriously. Most schools and institutions are gravitating towards the iPad. Any developer interested in making money will not ignore that base. In other words ... if there is an Android app out there ... its almost a guarantee that there is an equivalent iPad app out there. The reverse is not always true.

What needs to happen is this ... Android tablet makers should gang up and give huge discounts to top developers and lure them to develop killer apps for Android. Google should work closely with the developer community to ensure high-quality apps ("less power failures"). Only then will the landscape change.

But by the time the landscape changes ... the Transformer might very well be end-of-life. Moreover ... Apple is not going to be just sitting on the porch looking at Google working in the yard.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Dan76:
A better analogy for Honeycomb (and the TF101 more specifically) would be moving to a new area of town that's under much development, and growing at a faster rate while attracting a younger and more energetic population, allowing the construction of what ever type of house you would like with no home owners associations' restrictions to follow.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] vulcan195:
You mean to say ... new apps for Android Tablets is growing at a faster rate than for Apple Tablets ? Do you have the figures to back it ?

On a related note ... Gaza has a more energentic younger population than Seattle (or any US city). Chaos is also a form of energy :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
You misunderstand my point! I only mentioned my HTC Media Link, because I have one, but even then you need to carry out the Media Link, power supply, USB cable, and a micro-HDMI to full-HDMI cable.

It's all well and good that the TF has a built-in HDMI port, but my point is that you almost invariably have to carry around some sort of HDMI cable with it if you want to use it. Same with the iPad, except that you'd also have the HDMI adaptor, but that could be left attached to the HDMI cable.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Dan76:
No, I certainly do not claim that apps for Android tablets are growing at a faster rate. That more tablets are being released, more options and choices of hardware are being developed. I am confident that the apps will come.

It is obvious to all that the iPad has more apps. I would happily recommend to my grandparents to purchase the iPad as it will work more easily out of the box and have more apps... that was never a disagreement. I would moreover recommend a Honeycomb tablet to a more experience gadget and technology enthusiast, which are more likely to be peers of developers.

I'm really not intending to put down the iPad; all I'm saying is that the tablets serve different audiences. And the Transformer is certainly not near end-of-life.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
Sorry, but this just isn't true.

Take a look at this product - this is the sort of thing that will likely cannibalise the Macbook market, but Apple don't care because they make more money from the mobile space than they do "full" computers these days.

If you consider the iMovie app, and Garageband on the iPad, these are clear examples of full applications that previously you'd have only got on a desktop/laptop computer.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] chattyuk:
He never said if you had to get a laptop if you had an iPad! He said if you were typing all of the time then a device properly suited to the task would be better..which does make sense.

If I want want to take my iPad with me and just use it as a tablet I can. If I want to take my iPad and type then I take a keyboard with me.

If I want to take my iPad and display a video on a tv then I take an adaptor to do so

Etc etc

To an extent the transformer is the same but many accessories are combined in the one dock.

In terms of work and play what can the transformer do that the iPad cannot?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] vulcan195:
Rather than the variety of tablets being released ... we should focus on actual numbers being sold. Case in point ... Android-basedPhones are actually beating the pants of iPhones ... now, that is called progress.

I meant that by the time those apps come ... TF would be end-of-life.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] joe_dude:
True, Garageband seems to be a natural fit for the iPad. iMovie on iPad isn't a big deal, as Apple has FCP for the desktop.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Noxious Ninja:
Yep. My company put a lot of effort into our iPad app, and it has a pretty large user base. However, a Honeycomb app is still on the horizon.

+1

I have no idea why Google didn't do a massive developer campaign for Honeycomb... so many things about it feel like they just rushed it out to beat the iPad 2. :-/

I still ordered a Transformer, but I'm just a little skeptical. I really hope Google/nVidia/OEMs get the speed/smoothness/reliability issues sorted out, that we get Netflix, and that Google does some sort of tablet developer blitz. I prefer Android over iOS, but there are a few areas where it's a little embarrassing.

I also hope the major OEMs start committing to 2 years of software updates for Android devices.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] joe_dude:
Sorry, I guess I misread part of it. Oops!

Sure, the iPad can do whatever the Transformer can do (and more), given the right accessories, but the Transformer's keyboard dock is a very elegant solution.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] chattyuk:
Can't disagree with that:)

The dock is a neat little package!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
I'm certain they did rush it to market to beat the iPad2. Hence the beta quality of certain aspects of the software, and the reticence to release the Honeycomb source code. That being said, I still think Honeycomb is very good as it - it could've just done with a few months more development.

To be fair though, when Apple released the original iPad, it was running iOS3.2, when iOS4.x was clearly the tablet OS they had originally intended for it.

Well, apparently Netflix is coming! Sooner or later Android will be given equal billing by app developers.

I'd even take 1 year of guaranteed updates! :)

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Noxious Ninja:
I have a feeling Android 3.1 will be everything 3.0 should've been. I just hope the rush was worth it. I had a friend buy the Xoom on launch day and he could barely use the Facebook app because it kept crashing - which is almost inexcusable. They should've had Flash working on day 1. They should've had QuickOffice HD available, and Honeycomb-optimized versions of the Facebook and Twitter apps.

Oh, well. I'm going to reserve too much judgment until I get a Transformer in my possession and I've used it for a couple of weeks. Just have to wait for Target to ship...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] akarol:
Nobody needs to convince you to do anything. We're not the one that's missing out here. You're a big boy. Do your research and go with your gut feeling.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dfin13:
And I answered your question -- pretty much everything. Oh, you mean I can spend another $150 on a the elusive keyboard dock to get the same functionality from a cheap Hong Kong seller, I can see how that is a check in the Transformer's column :rolleyes: How about a travel charger? Car charger? And not a generic USB plug, I need one that comes with this proprietary cable for the Transformer. Hell, at this point, I would just take a spare cable. Can I walk into Best Buy or Walmart in a pinch and buy Transformer accessories if I'm out of town and need one? No, and probably never will be able to.

There are some drawbacks to having so many choices for Android tablets, and the lack of choice when it comes to accessories is a big one. Hell, if everyone had just agreed on a standard charging port, I would've been delighted.

Look, I am an Android evangelist, and I love my Transformer, but I'm also a realist. I refuse to pretend that the iPad and any Android tablet well ever be on a level playing field (that ship sailed when Steve Jobs convinced everyone the iPad was "magical"), and when someone comes to me asking about tablets, I'm honest with them when assessing their wants and needs. If an iPad suits them better, so be it.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Neo3D:
dude, itunes is a piece of ****! it takes a long time to load up and then locks your device.

i love being able to load songs and ringtones, whenever i want and from who's ever computer i want.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] psycho2097:
this thread is so cliched and retarded.... like the argument i have every day over my friends' iphone4 and my cappy....lol.

edit:personally, wouldnt bat an eyelid b4 throwing in 200$ more than the ipad2 4 a tablet like the transformer...seriously, not even a second thought. When the day is done, it all boils down to this- apple is easy, idiot-proof and fancy, but not the best thing out there. period.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seigex:
Thanks...I was wondering about that...... i would thank you but tapatalk wont let me....