yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] theabsurdman:
good points. i'll probably tape the asus cable, usb-5.5/2.1 adaptor and enercell connections to prevent accidents.

incidentally, if you are interested in acquiring the maplins car socket adaptor, note that it comes in 2 versions. the one i just bought in-store is a much more compact design than this one pictured on the maplins website (probably older stock):

http://www.maplin.co.uk/12v-5a-cigarette-socket-power-supply-42702

i only discovered it since we just went on holiday and left the kids' NDS chargers at home and had to get one to utilize the nintendo car charger. see what i mean about it being useful generally?!
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] theabsurdman:
my asus charger cable from the ebay USA guy arrived today -- about 8 days after i ordered it -- and nice chap, threw in a free gift of the usb F --> 5.5/2.1 barrel F adaptor cable, all for £20 shipped to the UK!

all you need on top of this is a ~£6 12v AC/DC adaptor from ebay.

shame asus can't match this service and cost!
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Paradaz:
Yeah, mine arrived too with free barrel adaptor cable. With regards to the AC/DC Adaptor, what amperage do I need to be looking for? Thanks in advance.

**Edit.... Have done some more searching for info and think I am armed with the correct info but want to make sure I'm correct as I could do without my TF going up in a cloud of smoke!! I have found info stating that the TF needs 5 amps to trip the 'quick' charging circuit? I also see information that the amperage is relatively unimportant with regards to the more amps going in the quicker the charge? Also, I assume that an AC/DC adaptor will require the polarity to be set to 'normal' and not 'reversed'. If the polarity was set incorrectly and plugged into the tablet, would it be blown instantly? What would the consequences be?
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Beards:
Guys,

Re the USB 3.0 Extension Cables ~ Either I am doing something really wrong or am having some serious bad luck in my purchasing....

To date I have now purchased 3 x USB3.0 Extension cables (one from a member who recommended the cable as working with his TF) and not one is showing a charge on the TF nor Dock.

So.... to save my sanity (and my last purchase) where in the UK did you purchase your extension cable?

I just wish the standard cable was long enough.

Thanks

Beards
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Bob Smith42:
Maybe it has to do with your charger. The tablet & dock only show charging if over 11v applied. If your cable is good then your AC adapter might be an issue.

Have you tried a second ASUS AC adapter? If the AC adapter works without the cable but does not work with the cable it could still be the AC adapter because the pin 7 functionality is failing (assuming cable is good).

On USB 3.0 the pin 7 is very far back in the socket.

Good luck.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Beards:
Thanks Mate for the feedback.

I'm still chasing up getting hold of a second Asus AC Adapter (just received the 12V 2A Wall Charger ~ ordered here,) ready for when the 'cables' arrive.

If it is the Asus Charger the TF came with I'll be bloody annoyed... but then I'll have a few spare USB3.0 extension cables.:D

I think until I get all the cables for the charger above I'll sit on any further purchases.

In the meantime I'll have a look at that Asus charger... Thanks.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] sparky19692:
Same problemhear solved with a new charger form radio shack.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] djkms:
Active extension is working for me, usb 2.0

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002D6QJO
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] naturecannon:
Time saving first time working buy!!

21 pages of cable talk. :eek:

Some bought the same cable from same place only to have different results for charging success. Hit and miss and a complete mess :p You get what you pay for and sometimes get lucky.

Well.......... after some research here and elsewhere I will say the Tripp Lite U324-006 USB 3.0 Super Speed 5Gbps A Male - A Female Extension Cable (6 Feet, Blue) seems to have 100% success. Sure it costs a few bucks more but "time is money". I am posting this for those like me that just want a first time working purchase without the "is it going to work gamble".

PLUS, it Also appears to work for both data and charging!!
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Bob Smith42:
Why not put one of these I/O Connectors 40P CABLE MNT PLUG CHAMP DOCKING on one of those USB 3.0 cables and solve your short cable problem permanently?

It only costs $3.49 USD each plus shipping.

PS: I have not confirmed these are an exact match for the TF101, but will do in a few days. Mouser received stock of over 1000 today. ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] clmnw:
For those in the UK, here's a confirmed to work with Asus Transformer extension cable on Amazon.co.uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-CBUB02-15BK-SuperSpeed-5Gbps-Extension/dp/B003U3TULY

There's a comment there confirming it (not put by me), I've bought the cable and can also confirm it works perfectly.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] sert00:
because the cable is too short,i do a 3g1,5 cable with a 220v male plug and a 220v female plug to elongate that without buyng a longer usb-cable...it's not so good to see,but usefull when i want to charge my tf in the night on my bed....

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3913/20110914002.jpg

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1541/20110914001.jpg

i don't attack how an attachment because resolution of photos are too big and i employ too much space in thread..
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Warkman:
For UK members, I got a 3mtr extension cable from Lindy

http://www.lindy.co.uk/3m-usb-3-extension-cable-type-a-male-to-a-female-black/31483.html

And it works a treat on my B70 model TF
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] samsung:
Frankly, I said to myself: Why didn't I think of that?

Thanks for this simple inspiration, just need longer cable, not necessarily on one side
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] dazzawright:
maybe not all 3.0 cables are equal. The information bought this one and it doesn't charge for me.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-3-0-Ext...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1304075189&sr=1-1
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] stuntdouble:
Ok well if that's the case I apologise to everyone who may have bought one so far. There should be a set standard for usb 3.0 cables, so I suggest you contact bobcatuk for more info on the one he has.

EDIT: Well I went out and bought one to see for myself. It's working for charging the device, but it doesnt work for data via pc as I suspected, maybe that's a driver issue I dont know. It's a generic usb 3.0 1m long male-female extension cable from a local shop, doesn't seem to have any markings along the length of wire like most wires do so cant comment on any revisions of the cabling, and it has the blue inserts in the usb tips. So it seems that some will work and others won't.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Fredplex:
stuntdouble, dazzawright,

if it's not too much trouble can you both pls post pics of your cable looking head on into the 2 ends of the cables - I want to see if we can compare the 2 from that perspective. Thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] gregjuice:
are you attempting data transfer on a USB 2.0 or 3.0 port from the PC?
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] stuntdouble:
Will do when I'm back home tomorrow.

Tried with both. No joy with either.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] SlimDan22:
From my understanding it seems that Asus has actually used USB 3.0 connectors on the charger and the cable

I find this method quite interesting rather then increasing the amperage over standard USB 2.0 like the Ipad (from .5 amp to 2 Amp)

It seems they use the extra 5 pins for power (dont know which ones, dont fell like probing with my multimeter)

They could use the other pins for other things too, maybe some peripherals later

Here is a USB 3.0 cable for reference

And here is the Asus cable (Click To Enlarge In New Tab)

Here is the charger (Click To Enlarge In New Tab)

(Four back pins are for USB 2.0, the five front are USB 3.0 based pins)

Hopefully this helps people out in understanding
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] pokey9000:
The adapter says 5.0V 2A or 15V, making me think the 4 2.0 pins MIGHT charge at 2.0A if you disconnect or pull the data pins in some way. I have a charge adapter I use for fast charging my N1 at home that does this. I'll try it later tonight. I'd bet this is the case, and would guess that the 15V mode is used for keyboard dock charging since even at 5V 2A it would take a long time to charge both those batteries.

For people who want a data / slow charge extension, a USB 2.0 extender should work for that purpose.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] bobcatuk:
Yes this was the cable that I got off eBay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200582349334 it works fine, charges with no problems.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] ChairmanManuel:
Um, its pretty high tech, but Im using an extension cord i found in my closet....
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] stuntdouble:
Well I got home a day earlier than I expected so tried to take some pics to post here for you, but I can't for the life of me get my camera to focus on it properly to take the pic. So, sorry... I'll just describe it instead.

It looks just like SlimDan22's top illustration of a usb 3.0 cable when I look in the end of it, 4 contacts at the front and 5 pins at the back, and now he's pointed out that the asus cable looks pretty much identical, it makes me think the asus cable is in fact a usb 3.0 cable as well. Usb 3.0 is meant to be backwards compatible with usb 2.0 so it makes sense for Asus to use this, and I was wondering why transfers were so much faster when connecting the eee pad to my pc before with just the asus cable, so I guess this is the answer why.

I've looked on the wiki sites for all the usb details and I don't understand why your cable isnt working, as it says there that there's only one usb 3.0 standard, so yours should work too. Are you sure your cable is actually usb 3 and not just a cunningly repackaged usb 2 cable? Certainly none of them should cause a charger to 'break' as you say.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] FrayAdjacent:
I really do wonder why everyone's fretting over using a USB 3.0 cable as opposed to a 2.0.

While I don't have my transformer yet, when it comes to CHARGING, all you need is the +5v and GND connections. As long as they are the same in a USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 cable, POWER should work. Y
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] bobcatuk:
I think its something to do with the pins in the cable, as the Transformer will only charge over a USB 3 cable as apposed to a USB 2 cable when plugged into the wall charger, or thats been my own experience.

I have numerous male-to-femail USB 2 Cables here and none of them would charge the Transformer, but when i picked up a USB 3 Cable it charged fine.

Maybe someone else can explain the tech details, or i think SlimDan22 has posted a diagram of the differences between USB 3 and USB 2 on a previous page.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] SlimDan22:
I am unsure about the tech details, but it is for a fact a USB 3.0 connector

by "USB 3.0" connector, i do not mean USB 3.0 is built into the transformer, Asus has just used the connectors

Either they have used them so they can harness the extra power that the USB 3.0 standard in wiring uses (900 mA instead of 150 mA)

Or they plan to use some of the extra 5 pins on the USB 3.0 connector for accessory's down the road and some for power

We wont know until someone probes the pins or Asus releases the pinouts for their connectors

I thought Asus's connectors where PDMI connectors from photos but until i actually got one i realized they weren't and are some other form connector, not sure which one, its some random 40 pin connecotor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] cd419:
I just recieved my usb3 cable from amazon and it indeed charges the xformer!!!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003YNTLHI
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] CoBrA2168:
Does anyone know where you can buy these cables? I don't care about length...I just need more so I can keep one at my computer and one with the charger.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] URPREY:
I just ordered the 6ft one. Thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] stcardinal:
Does the device need to be powered off for it to charge via USB from PC?
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] stuntdouble:
It needs to be in standby mode. It's very slow to charge via pc though.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Kenjuta:
correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure the extra pin/cables doesn't carry extra power/current, they're only use for data transfer

(search wikipedia for usb 3.0 and look at the pinout, appearntly i need to make more than 8 posts to post links)

i have a usb 2.0 extension and it works

i didn't time it to see if it's slower or faster but since pin 1 is the one that provides power/current it won't matter if you use USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 extension cable

the specs for USB 2.0 is 0.5A but if you have a USB port (like the one from Gigabyte) that provides more power (i believe theirs are 1.5A) then it will charge faster and the charger for the Transformer provides 5V at 2.0A or 15V at 1.2A so it shouldn't matter if you're using a 2.0 cable or 3.0 cable, as long as your device can draw that much amp then it will draw that much amp since cables have no knowlege or restriction on the amp or voltage
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] dfin13:
Monoprice estimates having stock back on 5/3, so if you can wait a couple of days, you'll save some money.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] bobcatuk:
I tried three different USB 2.0 extension cables and none of mine worked, maybe it depends on the quality or some other mythical factor as to which ones work and which ones don't ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] dotpro:
USB 2.0 wouldn't work... just compare the USB end of the asus able and same end on the USB2.0 cable. The wires do not match. I tried a couple as well, they don't work... USB2.0 cable is missing wires.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] pokey9000:
Most likely those pins are used for supplying 15V somehow and for telling the TF's built in charger that it can draw more than 0.5A.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] wekebu:
2nd power cable & adaptor

Has anyone found where to buy an additional power cord & adaptor, not an extension. I've looked around, but can't locate one. I don't lose things, but sure as sh!t, I'll lose this cable because I don't have another like it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Kenjuta:
Doesn't make sense that it's using 15V cause then it will only feed it 1.2A cause then that will give it a slower charge. The way charging works is the supplied voltage needs to be greater than the battery voltage and then the charge time will depend on how much amp you're giving it

monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030304&p_id=5433&seq=1&format=2

I bought this and it works fine. Also ordered one for my friend so I'll have to ask him if he's having issues with it or not.

Looking at the USB specs for power

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Power

supposedly charge can feed up to 1.8A through the USB if they put it into charge mode by shorting D+ and D- pins which means USB 2.0 chargers can supply enough amps fine

I'll try plugging the USB extender into my computer tonight to see if my gigabyte mobo can supply it with enough amp (my mobo can supposedly do 1.5A on the USB 2.0)
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] roebeet:
Bought a cable similar to this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-3-0-Extensi...272?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25636c7948

Works fine as an extension cable for charging.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Kenjuta:
hmm guess I was wrong

with the USB 2.0 extension cable it still charges but there's no charge symbol so it's charging slowly

this still doesn't make sense from what I know about power and USB cables :(
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] dfin13:
Back in stock at Monoprice.

3-ft: http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=6505

6-ft: http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=6506
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] fullthrottleenergy:
Picked up a 6ft from amazon for $4.85.

Amazon

Looked at the monoprice ones yesterday but they were OOS.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] steftymo:
Well I bought the same usb3 cable from eBay as bobcatuk and mine does not charge the tf

When I restart it and check with battery monitor widget it shows as unplugged.

So either some xformers/power units are different or the usb3 cables are, even though mine is identical to bobcatuk's.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] bobcatuk:
Unsure what to advise buddy as I'm currently using mine, it was the one I linked to previously, unless the one you have got has a fault.

Just to confirm, if you look at the ends of the cable do you see blue inside where the pins are ?

Have you tried the cable plugged into a pc, it wont charge it but you should be able to mount and read the sd-card, just to make sure the cable is working ?
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] FrayAdjacent:
15V @ 1.2A current is 18W of power

5V @ 2A current is 10W of power

Amp is a measure of current, it's short for Ampere. Like MPH is a measure of speed. You would ask "how fast does it go?" not, "how many MPH does it go?" Thus the proper question or statement is "how much current it pushes".
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] dotpro:
Just to confirm, got these in today and they work.

Charged my transformer after almost 3 days and the charge from the wall was fast (went from 23% to 95% in hour or so).
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] steftymo:
Thanks for reply. Yes it is definitely a usb3 cable, identical to eBay picture and probably the same as yours. I have tried it with my PC via a usb2 and usb3 socket and it opens the file system on my TF. I have also connected it to my external hard drive which is usb3 and that works perfectly. There was a guy earlier in this thread who had the same problem so I think there must be differences in the charger unit somewhere.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] bobcatuk:
Thats got me puzzled, sorry i cant be of more help, hopefully someone will have a solution or a work around for this issue that some people seem to be having with the USB 3.0 extension cables and the chargers.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Kenjuta:
but lets say when you're using the device the device uses 1.6A

so if your charger supplies less than 1.6A then the device is draining more current than it's being charged with

so an example will be you have your car running and it's drinking fuel at 5L/min but your attach a fuel pump to it as well which only fills at 3L/min then your gas tank will be filled it will be draining but will appear to be draining at a slower rate.

so it will be the amount of amps that matter for how fast it charges

voltage is the potential difference so it just has to be greater than the amount of voltage the battery has and i'm sure the battery has less than 5V since plugging it into your computer USB port (which supplies 5V) will cause it to charge slowly (meaning it's a lack of amps)
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Putzy:
I got this cable from Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003QZKMU4/

It is definitely a USB 3 cable, but doesn't charge the tablet.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] str4t:
thanks, dont have the tablet yet but seen a lot users hating the short size... grabbing one!
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] SlimDan22:
Here is my monoprice order if anyone is interested , i ordered a 3 footer from Amazon and realized it was too small =P, but it works good with charging

6 Foot USB 3.0 Extension

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030309&p_id=6506&seq=1&format=2

I also picked up one of these , Mini HDMI to HDMI

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10419&cs_id=1041909&p_id=3653&seq=1&format=2

And some LCD cleaner which is awesome (Which they never have in stock!)

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10902&cs_id=1090201&p_id=5177&seq=1&format=2

Total $13 bucks including shipping (Shipping cheaper the closer you are to California)
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] SilentMobius:
A USB 3 extension cable will work when inserted between the STOCK charger and the STOCK sync cable.

The stock charger sends 15v@1.2A over the additional pins, this is _very_ non standard, for this to work your power source needs to provide 15v@1.2A a normal PC or hub will not do this the stock sync cable receives these extra pins and conveys the 15v line to the dock connector.

If you are not using the stock charger you have no need of a USB3 cable (because you've charging using 5v) and the Transformer will charge very slowly and only when off.

It's likely that the Transformer has a voltage tripler on the normal +5v USB power in, meaning that the current is ~0.2A or less hence the slow charging.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] N23:
My USB 3.0 extension doesn't work, it has the additional pins but wont charge the TF... :(
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] machiavelli9988:
Damn it! I ordered a mini hdmi to hdmi cable, totally forgot about the option of an adapter. Got the same usb as well
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] SlimDan22:
Got it today, the adapter is actually smaller then i thought it was going to be, i will test out later

I figured i might as well get the adapter since i have a gazillion HDMI cables in my house
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] dnaL0R:
i think my $3 adapter i got off eBay is faulty... won't work on neither of my 2 displays: Asus monitor and an aquos hdtv... i hope the output on my tf101 is not busted... will try again later with a different cable...
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Highland3r:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003QZKMU4/ref=oss_product usb3 cable worked fine for charging.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Putzy:
Very strange... Same one here, doesn't work for charging.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] stuntdouble:
Gently wiggle the connection joints as you are staring at the screen. See if anything flicks to charge on/off or not. May be a bad fit. These generic usb 3.0 cables arent very well made.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] shaxs:
I bought this cable before coming here and seeing this thread. WHen using this cable to charge though the power adapter, does it show as charging on the tablet in honeycomb?
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Putzy:
Nah, nothing unfortunately. The cable can charge my phones and my iPod - so I think it's a slight difference in the charger -> tablet cable.

Oh well... will buy another couple more different 'brands' and try them. It's never too bad to have a USB extension laying around, eh?
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Deeko1:
I got the exact same cable and it works for me. Seems like they are of variable quality!
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Kenjuta:
Unfortunately it doesn't and charges very slowly on a USB 2.0 extension cable (1% in a min or two)
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] shaxs:
So 200 minutes for a full charge? That doesnt sound that bad.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] unknown_owner:
Ordered the 6ft cable n charges fine
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] cky2000:
Mine is working too. Order from monoprice. One thing, another person has the same cable and his is not working. I hope it's just a bad cable for him.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030309&p_id=6506&seq=1&format=2

The pix.

http://littlekitty.smugmug.com/Other/New-Forums/i-gvQhh3G/0/X3/img_3165%20copy-X3.jpg

with dock.

http://littlekitty.smugmug.com/Other/New-Forums/i-wzcnRWT/0/X3/img_3166-X3.jpg
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Curtisbeef:
Yup thats me, i have the same monoprice cable and it doesn't work :(

i.imgur.com/D29XH.jpg (cant post links yet)

I did a RMA they are gonna send me a new one. Well see...
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] aarofloyd:
My EEE pad charges just fine but i wanted a longer cable so I bout that USB3 Extension from monoprice and it does not work! :(