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[Epic 4G Android Development] :
Didn't I suggest that?

Alright. I'm gonna send a PM to developers on the Vibrant and Captivate Forums saying the following:

"Hello.

I am contacting you to ask for you help in developing a Kernel for the Samsung Epic 4G. Obviously, you guys (Vibrant/Captivate/Fascinate Developers/Users) already have working MIUI and CM7. The most we have is a buggy CM7 with broken MMS, Camera, bluetooth, etc... and a old 1.3.5 release of MIUI with generally the same things broken. We are currently trying to raise money to buy an Epic to donate to the CyanogenMod Team, and if possible, other "good" developers willing to help us out. This is not an offer for us to give you an Epic, but this is me, and probably others asking for help. We do not have source, but we do have a lot of users who are willing to test out anything you guys can make for us. I know it'd be developing in the dark, but that's pretty much how we got one of our MIUI Ports. It boots, it works. Somethings are broken, but I'm sure we have some users who still use it. I would also like to inform you, that a lot of us are waiting. Our developers told us to wait until Gingerbread source drops, because we can't do anything without it. However: it is quite obvious that a lot can be done without source (CM7 and MIUI working on every other phone except ours being the first 2 examples). PM me back if you are willing to try and help us out, or if you want more details. Thanks :)"

How's that?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Magic Oreo:
You can try, but they'll say the same thing our devs have. We already have a Cm dev Decad3nce. the reason why we don't get it but they do? In a simple way to put it our hardware isn't like any other phone. Other galaxy S phones have it because of the hardware similarities to phones like the nexus S who's source is already given, devs have tried to take from it like the other phones but we get nothing from it because of our hardware. the only hope is the source for the epic.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
Best hope, In theory we could hack together a working Froyo kernel based build but an official Gingerbread kernel based build will work better and will be easier to implement.

I for one, would like to see a build of MIUI a little better than what we have (even if it is hacky) and I appreciate Ahmgsk's efforts. I know some headway can be made and I appreciate it.

Eventually the Devs will have to get their hands dirty and make a hacked build when Samsung stops supporting our phone (ICS? I think not but maybe). Some are willing to continue work despite the lack of source while others do not which is understandable. I imagine trying to get a froyo kernel to work with gingerbread can be stressful especially given the hacky nature of Samsung's own kernel.

I look forward to Samsung eventually releasing their Kernel source but this could be a while.

All this being said I think what would really help our cause is to develop a new relationship with Samsung, so that they don't have to leak software when they make it. Someday, I want Samsung to allow us to join a sort of beta tester program in which they give us new builds and source then we rate them to help Samsung with debugging.
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
EVERYBODY STOP! I'm not asking you guys. I know the hardware is different. I'm noy asking, that's what I want to send to the other developers to ask for their help. Is it a good preposition or not?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
I can confirm that there is another developer or two looking into Miui. I am not dropping names because I am not going to put any added pressure on them. There is much interest in making it happen though.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
[QUOTE=Original Android

I agree with you. Why can't we just compile nexus or galaxy a aosp kernel but with victory folders and cdma and all our other necessary files? Has to be possible. Your letter sounds good. In the donation thread, decadence said its not possible so stfu already, but I don't agree
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
Not to be bogus but, he tends to do that...

I understand, you guys think it'd be a waste to build it now when we can get it for free later, and I should dev it myself, but come on now. Someone's gotta do it. Just think, Samsung and Sprint could EOL us right now and never drop the update, and then what?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Twitter
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
Honestly, it sounds perfect! Kinda professional ;) but anywho, I as much as the next guy would love to see MIUI fully functional. I was wondering, isn't there the Samsung Transform or something for Sprint? I'm not sure if they have a forum or any type of development for that phone, but isn't our phone similar in hardware towards that one? Although they have stock Froyo if I'm correct.
[Epic 4G Android Development] readingkeeper:
They're on SDX. But they have almost no development. CWM isnt even that great. And forget about aosp.

Sent from my S-Off'd, Synergised EVO 3D
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
I think its crazy how the captivate,facinate,vibrant and mezmurize all have miui 2.3.5 fully working. That's crazy
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
I kinda saw that coming haha. Although I am also surprised how they have MIUI & CM fully if not mostly working. :/

Edit: Heck even the HD2 has MIUI working. Something is obviously wrong here haha.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
The transform has nothing we could benefit from, it's literally the Samsung Moment 3 being that it and the intercept got screwed over by Samsung just as fast the Moment did.

Sent using TouchPal Curve Input
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Anyone care to start a MIUI discussion thread in general?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Schnadam:
Using 1.3.5 right now.. not bad. But yeah. Has some much needed improvements.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ceelos09:
As requested, here is the new general thread on MIUI http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1202549 try posting in this thread instead of here so we dnt continue to crowd this development thread with discussions and so fourth
[Epic 4G Android Development] nbunn:
I'm on my phone so I'm being bad and not searching but I couldn't get 3G to work at all. Ask I missing something?
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
Try toggling data in your status bar 3 times on and off ending with on.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Right now I'm trying to take some epic files (victory folder and CDMA and other stuff) and merge those to the GS CM Kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
How do you compile a kernel? I have files that I took from Epic and put in Galaxy S Kernel source for CM7. For windows 7 btw.
[Epic 4G Android Development] maddoggin:
is this working? has it been updated ? whats up with this rom?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Its being worked on for sure. I have done some testing. The new version flashes but doesn't get past the Samsung screen. We need some kernel magic I believe..
[Epic 4G Android Development] ugothakd:
I believe you have to use linux...or a virtual machine with linux on it
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
No offense, but this wont work lol if masterminds like Deca cant make it work (easily) than i doubt someone with no experience will...but thanks for the effort!

and @maddoggin: This was being worked on but everyone who wasworking on it is now trying to get a working 1.7.xx build to boot/work.. btw, NICE theme!! I moved to GB just to try out your 8 lock and i stayed because of the theme lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] sryans2004:
I agree about his theme :) also asdfghjkl, you might want to take new out of thread title
[Epic 4G Android Development] sryans2004:
Balalshzbdklfeojksa repeat
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
New cm7 so maybe new kernel
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
Thoughts exactly. Think we can use its kernel?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Still the old kernel. 2.6.32.9
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
Well that's a disappointment....so all we can really do is wait till gingerbread comes to us?

Btw, isn't MIUI based on CM7 kernel?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ceelos09:
Yeah, from what I know, they both basically run on similar kernels, if not the same
[Epic 4G Android Development] Magic Oreo:
anyone wanna try booting miui with cm7 kernel?

fine i will...trying the version posted here.

EDIT: miui will boot (version given in this thread with new cm7 kernel) will check working items and etc...

3g works great, sms, calling, wifi has error, camera, cant figuare out how to mms attaching doesnt work, no screen turning,usb mounting, occasional lag?

idk havent used miui in awhile...but doesn't look like much improvement.

all i remember was last time 3g was bad and calling sucked, so maybe some improvement? not worth using without wifi. could have a phone improvement.
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
So no improvement. Dang, I figured CM7's bugs would be the same for MIUI, but as all roms there must be something in the coding that won't work with that. So I'm guessing its worse than the kernel we are using? Don't know much about compiling kernels, but maybe compare the MIUI kernel with CM7? See if somethings may be fixed?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mike_77:
I'll take a look at this. It should improve some functionality within 1.3.5, but it won't do anything for newer GB builds. Basically anything that works in CM7 should work in MIUI. I don't have tons of free time anymore, no guarantees on anything.
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
Hmmm...alright! Thanks fo all the hard work Mike_77! Appricate all the work you devs put it in our Epics. And just by trying it is good enough for us, so no rush :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Has anyone tried the Phoenix or Phasma kernels w/ MIUI? If so, do they work better than the one that they're using in the beta?
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
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[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
[QUOTE=Original Android

What does that mean
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mike_77:
Those kernels offer some benefits, and some negatives. The best working kernel is the one that came in the beta based on various opinions.
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
Bump for dat Gingerbread MIUI!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
[QUOTE=Original Android do u have it or what??
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
Nah. But I want it, trollolololololol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1188097

Could that help us at all with anything?
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
It could but I doubt it will have any good side effects haha.

Anyword on CM7's newer kernel on our version of MIUI?

Sent from my Epic[Fail]4G ;P
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
couple more weeks fellas.. for GB/source that is.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Fusingblackrose, the dev who made some Miui builds for us and doesn't even have an epic, says that he's going to make a Miui 1.8.5 build for us. Proof: http://twitter.com/fusingblackrose

Here's the quote: @xboxfanj I'm about to make a 1.8.5 build of MIUI, and I'll need a tester. Link will be tweeted soon.

Btw he is talking about the epic b/c he was replying to me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lost_man10002:
great news...My wifey hates me when I showe her miui on my EVO to da point she was about to trade her epic for one...But now she is patiently waiting for this to come to the epic.
[Epic 4G Android Development] rmriggin:
I have had to restrain myself multiple times from picking up an evo or an evo shift just so I could enjoy miui. Samsung certainly is good at teaching patience. Progress has been great lately but same as usual we got to wait for source to be released.
[Epic 4G Android Development] aleph23:
Yep. I still consider it on occasion. Running the new hacked CM7 yesterday was the most recent time! :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
Hopefully he needs more than one tester! :D

Sent from my Epic[Fail]4G ;P
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
I start school in 5 days, pleaase have something for me before then.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
[QUOTE=Original Android

Sorry but no one works around your schedule :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
if only we had gingerbread source :( hahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRsDEpls5yE
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
[QUOTE=Original Android

I know it was that's why I put a smiling face next to it. Lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
I hope the gs2 will have stuff pretty quick... Ill hopefully be getting it soon after release... Lol right when the epic gets cm7 and miui ill have to wait again on another phone...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
I saw a YouTube video of the gs2 with a beta of miui and its way more stable than our froyo beta. It even has camera working and all
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
Good... I will not be buying the gs2 if it has a keyboard for sprint... Itll be the step child again and not have many devs.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
See look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV4HZ4V7JrU
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
Wow... I cant wait... Thats very quick and very customizable
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Yup
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
Idk if im gunna use cm7 or miui
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
He dmed me the build on twitter. I haven't tried it yet. I'll let you guys know.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Fatonuseni:
Let us know if it boots.
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
no boot...status 7 according to xboxfanj...just sent him my build and hope he can use the script to make his boot
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Yeah. He sent me one w/ status 7, then another that flashed, but didn't boot. He's still trying though.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
That's great!

Be sure to tell him how much we appreciate what he's doing.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Fatonuseni:
What's status 7?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Fatonuseni:
Yes, much thanks for the effort! What can we do to help?
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
Why would this Dev do this on his own, why not work with the existing Dev team here rather than working blind and posting builds to an end user?
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
He's without an Epic, at least he's attempting something.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
He worked with Mike_77 and asdfghjkl for 1.3.5 and then he let them take over and nothing since then so I messaged him to see if he could help them again. btw here's a link to the build

http://forums.miui.us/showthread.php?2971-ROM-1.8.5-Samsung-Epic-4G-Official-Thread-Test-v2&p=25633
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
What ever happened to ahgsk?(spelled wrong)
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
Anyone else flash the v2?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
I will try it out latter tonight
[Epic 4G Android Development] rulyskull:
It dosent boot like xbox said I just tried it

sent from my epic with the 4 g and the leaked ginger bread
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Guys, post your comments there so he can see them or at miuiandroid, he has a thread too. If you know what to do to fix it, tweet him.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
I tested it out then posted my results on MIUI.US.

My phone had Epicurean EG22 scrambled rom with CWM Recovery 3.1.0.1.

I wiped data cache and dalvik 3 times then flashed the rom.

It flashed successfully but the phone hanged at the samsung boot screen.

Link to MIUI.us thread

Link to MIUIandroid thread
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
So that was you posting there?
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
The second post was mine (lynyrd65). The first post is the Dev's (Fusingblackrose) post.

I posted here as well.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
So I tried to flash the 1.8.5 with the dual kernel and wouldn't boot still. Just tried it. Lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
I hope this gets working before official gingerbread. I'd hate to see work go to waste.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
Well, official gingerbread would make it easier for MIUI, but I get what you mean.

Also, check your google+
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Checked it!

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
So I tried taking the kernel from 1.4 that mike77 put up that booted and put it in the 1.8 build and still no go.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Bummer.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
Lol they both have the same kernel (cm7). But you did give me an idea...I think I'll use the old 1.6 builds as a base (atleast to know what files we used) because those atleast booted lol thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Hahaha sure I guess I'm just messing with it trying to make it work some how lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
What if someone made a hacked up miui with twframeworks and all that crap. Can it be done??
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
If I understand right, do u mean just the framework and looks of MIUI on a normal rom like bonsai or srf? I guess it could but it would require more work than this and would not have the benefits (theme chooser and battery life, speed...)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Yes exactly just thought it would make some people calm down from waiting for a stable miui lol. Just a thought :)

Kinda like this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1085298

found this on the fascinate threads.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Magic Oreo:
thats kinda cool but i'd rather have the full miui experience :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Guys, don't use froyo kernels. Only aosp gb kernels. Use the cm7 kernels: phasma, phoenix, and the one in the cm beta and report back.

EDIT: NVM. I had no idea that our cm7 kernels are froyo.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Phasma doesn't work for me.

Here's a build that shiftr182 sent me, ported from the NS4G. It flashes and goes past the samsung screen to the miui boot animation, but never goes past there for me.

http://www.mediafire.com/?9g21k6wkk4n9wqd
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
We dont have any gb kernels... Only in the leaks... All our cm7 kernels are built with froyo kernels.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
I had no idea that our cm7 kernels are froyo. I tried a few updater-scripts and kernels with fusingblackroses ROM, but none went past Samsung. Couldn't someone build from the CM7 source like other devices did?
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
We don't have the proprietary modules we need to make a working AOSP 2.6.35.7 kernel.

Unless we want to write the drivers ourselves, which sounds like quite a project. After we do that we should have the knowledge to make our own cell phones. :)

I had this idea of a free nation wide broadband network I could probably make with this knowledge.....
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
Yes they are froyo but they are made to work for GB. All we have is CM7 and leaks but those won't work...cm7 and phasma work we just have to find out what is missing/shouldn't be there...
[Epic 4G Android Development] raymond4:
Instead of trying to get miui gingerbread on our devices why not try to get a fully stable version of miui froyo at least we would have miui ?
[Epic 4G Android Development] nbunn:
Genius.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
This would work for me :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] raymond4:
Will anyone take on the task of doing a froyo build of miui with everything working ? I will gladly donate some money we really would appreciate it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] nbunn:
I would love to see the build in this thread working.
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
Would you really rather froyo miui?? I havnt taken a look at that in months but I guess...maybe mike_77 could make a cool dual boot kernel OC/UV. Hell someone might as well try to make a hacked up non compliant CM6 so it could use the same kernel lol I actually like the soun of this :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] smojica:
I love this idea!
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
I agree, just try and make a stable version of the current froyo MIUI! I prefer that than trying to make Ginger work on it right now. :D

Sent from my Epic[Fail]4G ;P
[Epic 4G Android Development] InfDaMarvel:
I'm sure you'd prefer the latest. Source will come.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
I would like to try. But have no idea how to develope anything. So how would I go about making the foyo miui more stable???
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
None of us really have any idea xD I kinda wish that someone who DOES develop would take this and fix it lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Lol. What do u do to try to fix things
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
Well we usually just copied in files from our normal custom roms...but we have done all we can with that. Now we have to go more in depth if you want to fix this.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Ohh. I pm a vibrant dev that works on miui hopefully he will reply. I asked him if he could help me figure out how to fix things
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
For now maybe try to make the froyo usable and once we get source you should do gingerbread. Cuz gb will only be less stable than froyo
[Epic 4G Android Development] SFitzgerald73:
So is it agreed? Your gonna try and make the froyo more stable instead of working pointlessly on a GB rom that wont run that great (or even work at all) untill we get the actual GB kernel? :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
But here's the thing. try any Theme for the latest Gingerbread ROM on our current MIUI ROM. You see that it doesn't work. This would happen even if we had FroYo. And we would lack a lot of the new Gingerbread MIUI features. I think we should stick to making Gingerbread work, no matter what,
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
[QUOTE=Original Android

But they can't finish gb miui without gb source so they can get fully functional kernel
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
If we get it to boot we can get it as far as our current CM7 rom (the compliant one) which isnt that bad lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
This tbh. How'd we get CM7 this far and not MIUI when MIUI is based off of CM7 again, lmao?
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
You know, i asked myself that everytime i tried making it work. The only challenge is getting it to boot lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Well that's true. But what is the problem right now?? The kernel or other things?
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
-__-

Guys btw, I invented swag.
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
The kernel should make it boot and work to a certain extent...its the other things that need to be played with.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Ohh I see. How can I help?? Lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
Is miui like cm7 were you cant touch systrm apps to make stuff work or can you edit anything... Does it have to be miui-compliant lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
I don't think it has much difference. After all, it is based off of CM7.
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
It doesn't have to be MIUI compliant lol play with whatever file u want to
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Yeah, for now we just want hacked up roms that work lol, and we'll have miui compliant soon enough once source comes. For now, the devs should have fun doing what the can/want :)

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Yes please lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
Let's hope Deca can join in and show a helping hand! Hopefully him and the other great devs we have can make MIUI more stable than it is now! :D I prefer a more stable froyo version to btw...haha.

Sent from my Epic[Fail]4G ;P
[Epic 4G Android Development] rulyskull:
Froyo is good but I want the must up to date Miui it has gotten so much better

sent from my epic with the 4 g and the leaked ginger bread