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[Acer Iconia A500] 07aspenx:
I had the gtablet for 3 weeks and recently sold it and picked up the Acer A500 yesterday. I was also comtemplating on buying the Xoom at Bestbuy, but after playing with both tablets I couldn't justify spending the extra $ on the xoom so I went with the Acer and so far so good. It's like night and day compared to my old gtablet.
[Acer Iconia A500] appelflap:
LoL. Please clean the screen of the Iconia :D What a difference...
[Acer Iconia A500] foxmeister:
I'm a Transformer owner, but over the weekend I had a chance to play with both the Xoom and the Iconia in store.

The screen on the Tranformer is definitely the best of all three tablets, and this was clearly evident even without having the Transformer to hand to compare side by side.

However, I would still rate the Iconia's screen as "very good" (the Transformer's screen would be rated "excellent"), and significantly better than the screen on the Xoom (which I would rate as just "ok").

Regards,

Dave

P.S. Just an FYI, but I'm keeping an eye on the Iconia forums because I'm thinking about getting an A100, not to troll regarding A500/Transformer comparisons!
[Acer Iconia A500] deymayor:
if you want to see the real difference between the Iconia and Transformer, take a pic from the side with about a 150 deg angle.
[Acer Iconia A500] hiroko83:
It not a regular TFT screen , in fact there are 4 differents technologies ( TN, MVA, PVA, IPS )

Acer choosed PVA for the A500 , it provides the highest contrast ever measured on a tablet (1126:1) when the Ipad and its IPS Screen is rated (960:1) , but the latency is not as good as its competitors (even if asus came out with a trick , to correct that , by inserting a black picture every 3 images )

People tends to think that IPS is superior , but in fact it depends of the usage.

A500's screen might not be the best screen in the world , but it is for sure a very good one.
[Acer Iconia A500] rushless:
Something seems odd with the pics, since the fonts are blurry with the A500, but I did not see the same issues. I only noticed that the extreme angles maintained image quality better on the Transformer, but both were just as sharp and bright.

Both displays have the same display resolution and will not have any blurring or bleeding anomolies like CRT pixels would. The symmetry of both techs should maintain their positions (no bleeding across). It look like the focus may be more set to the device on the right (post #8- far right image).
[Acer Iconia A500] Iconia:
That is true, the Mrs hates it but me, its a wicked bit of tech to add my collection lmao.
[Acer Iconia A500] rushless:
That is where you see a difference- big time, but I do not see myself viewing in such extreme angles- does not seem practical. Sans the extreme angles, IPS and the A500 display looks just as good to me.

Still, IPS will probably give folks about 30 minutes more battery life.
[Acer Iconia A500] texonex:
I noticed something abnormal (or not) about the transfomer's screen. This is the video of the screens recorded using Motorola Atrix @ 720p resolution. Both devices are on the same brightness setting. Anybody notices the flickering on the

transformer's screen? Why?

Link

http://oeo.la/e2C2rC
[Acer Iconia A500] jake21:
I wonder which screen does a better job with movies ? I have the asus and it is not bad; but at least with moboplayer it is not out of this world either.
[Acer Iconia A500] mippippippi:
I believe it could be due to the fact that Asus screen has a lower refresh rate ( i read so on few places, but i can't be certain )
[Acer Iconia A500] Nascar Dog:
I just watched a review on the A500 and they said the front panel felt more plastic than glass and some minor scratches were already appearing.

Mentioned at 1:57

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewUIJfMhVeU

Is the front glass or plastic?

Maybe just not gorilla glass....
[Acer Iconia A500] Nascar Dog:
It is Gorilla Glass on the A500!

1. Go to gorilla's website: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#featured-products

2. Click on "Products with Gorilla" at the very top.

3. You'll see the Iconia A500 listed

Thanks to pentool from Android Tablets.net for finding this info.

http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/acer-iconia-tab-a500-forum/14658-a500-front-glass-glass.html#post87766
[Acer Iconia A500] dhruvmp:
There are actually more than 4 Tft types, but you are basically right. And, it think it was Acer that pulled the trick of inserting a black screen every 3 frames in order to improve contrast ratio, but you might be right, I can't find the original article anymore.

I still love the screen on my iconia, but I have not used the transformer. It may have better stats than the ipad screens, but those (ipad) still feel better idk. I hate apple, so I don't care if they even gave me an ipad 2, I would use it as a cutting board.
[Acer Iconia A500] hiroko83:
Here is a macro picture of the PVA screen from the A 500

and another one from an ipad2 (IPS)

The purpose of inserting a black screen every 3 pictures is not to increase the contrast, but to give the perception of a better fluidity (as the response time of the screen is pretty high (27ms) that create the illusion to have a faster screen,and so far I am pretty happy with the result.

Sources : http://www.digitalversus.com/acer-iconia-tab-a500-p1049_10963_38.html
[Acer Iconia A500] hiroko83:
Sorry you are perfectly right , I meant Acer instead of Asus.
[Acer Iconia A500] dhruvmp:
Oh yeah sorry, I knew it was for something, just me being forgetful again...:confused:

Thanks for posting the article.
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
Good catch and thanks for sharing.

Now, I'm curious why Gorilla Glass was never mentioned. Seemed like a lot of people got hung-up on the idea that it didn't have it, (before NA release) so it swayed their decisions.. well, added to the 'swaying' of their decisions...

GO ACER! *cough*
[Acer Iconia A500] jake21:
Vaguely I believe I read that the acer screen was 256 bit while the transformer was 32 bit and that for some images this was very visible in a negative way.

-

Two questions:

Is this actually true ?

From the above picture at the pixel level why would the acer screen be more limited? A gpu issue ?
[Acer Iconia A500] FSGuruh:
No it's not!

No that's not true. What is the source of this information?

best regards
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
It's actually 262k (not bit).
[Acer Iconia A500] FSGuruh:
Interesting?

Any source for this?
[Acer Iconia A500] Neoprimal:
If I had to wager a bet I'd say licensing/royalty issues. Generally companies have to pay another company something to commercially stick their name on it. It's possible Acer doesn't feel the need to do that. Many companies in fact use GG but don't announce it, more than likely for this reason. I read a while back something about confidentiality agreements between companies that use GG and Corning. Don't quote me on that because only God could help me find it now.

Even many of the recently released HTC phones are built with it but HTC chooses not to announce it and if you call them 1/2 the time you'll get a "yes" it's GG and the other 1/2 will tell you it's proprietary "tempered" glass (aka non-descriptive Gorilla Glass).

It's more than likely not the same when it comes to GG naming a product it's sold in, that's the way it works. For Eg: a PC manuf. will likely have to pay Intel a lil' somethin' somethin' for those stickers that say Intel inside, but Intel doesn't have to pay Acer/Dell/Etc. for saying that these manuf. use their processors.
[Acer Iconia A500] FSGuruh:
Actually 262k Color

Shame on Acer, yes it seems to be true:

According http://www.displayblog.com/2011/04/26/acer-iconia-tab-a500-review

nearly at the end:

"The 10.1-inch LCD is a 6-bit panel good for 256,000 color combinations. I wouldn’t consider that good at all. What is good is an 8-bit LCD with millions of colors, something you find in the iPads."

6 bits means 64 steps for each base color. You gave three base colors

= 64*64*64 = 262144 instead of an usual display having 8 bits per base color

= 256 * 256 * 256 = 16777216

Somebody have a better reference? Not really convinced about my source, but together with the answers here it seems to be true.

Best regards
[Acer Iconia A500] abats:
Ofcourse it's true. It's in the specs..

Also I really don't care about amount of colors and or other specs. I'm happy with the screen and the device in general.
[Acer Iconia A500] FSGuruh:
Reference?

Would you please be nice and post the reference?

I personally didn't find this information in the specs. They just stated the resolution, nothing about colors.
[Acer Iconia A500] abats:
http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/tablets/2011/Acer/ICONIATab/ICONIATabA500/IconiaTabA500sp4.shtml

Also it's in the manual on page 61
[Acer Iconia A500] wcladley:
Thoughts on the display quality...

I just purchased the A500 this week and have been it using for a few days. While many reviews praise the screen, I find it to be a bit pixelated. This is not due to the grid issue, as I actually cannot notice that when the machine is on, but rather images don't look as sharp as on some of my other devices (including a 5 year old MacBook with the same resolution). The colors also don't seem as vibrant (particularly reds) as I have become accustom to.

I am wondering whether the screens on competing Android devices are significantly better. Reports suggest not (Transformer aside-and even there you the light bleed deal) but some first-hand experience would be useful.

The device is a great from a functional standpoint, but every time I use it there is something that just seems off with the screen. Anyone else experiencing this?
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
The gamma does seem to be a touch high in general. Also it errs to close to blue so reds and greens aren't as intense.

I really wish we could have contrast/gamme & RGB controls.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrKite4:
Is there anyway to just disable the AWD Launch? It drains the life out of my battery but I'd like to keep the feature and be able to use it once in awhile.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pendevous:
You mean ADW?

Okay, here's how:

1. Download "Home Switcher for Froyo" from the market.

2. Launch it, and launch, "Samsung Home"

3. Go to the app again, and select, "Default" for Samsung Home
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jwtiyar:
Hi all

I was thinking that all those people create this rom.and add some that he want to show to its rom ,but i want to know how to add to ROMs like adding fonts that i want and changing theme or translating(important) that i want .

If any one have information about these i will thank if he/she can answer.

Thanks alot.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davebugyi:
Better ask around in the Chef central, but just my advice ;)

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=613
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WingMan2010:
Is anyone else have battery issue with the Telestra rom....

I love this phone but the combination of rogers/bell and motorola is pissing me off...

screw this...i think i need to go get high...and try to install gingerblur on my bell atrix again...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ccrows:
The entire Telestra ROM or just the radio mod?...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scorneil:
I had terrible battery performance as well. Seemed like 6 hours and it would be dead.

I reflashed, rooted, deodexed, and installed the ginberbreak (bell) theme, froze, and now am getting normal battery performance again
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WingMan2010:
The entire ROM....i bricked my and flashed this ROM....

which root tool did u use? ginerbreak???

and i don't think i can deodexed i don't have the bell rom installed
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scorneil:
Here's what I did

1. Flash Telstra

2. Root using Gingerbreak (using this threads method, not the Gingerbreak APK)

3. Deodex (using the manual method in this thread)

4. Install CWM (from here)

5. Install Gingerbread for Bell (via the CWM method here)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChongoDroid:
Same... Except I deleted all the bloat as well and then deleted the battery stats. I, get around 11 to 14 hours with heavy usage. 20 + with normal usage

Sent from my Motorola Olympus
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WingMan2010:
ok i will try...soon...tnx
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scorneil:
Yes, good point I also froze the bloat using Titanium Backup. Used the comprehensive list from this thread

Prior to freezing I also uninstalled as much of the Telstra app's as I could under Manage Applications (Foxtel, etc.)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChongoDroid:
All the bloat on that list I deleted... :p were never getting a telstra update so why not right? Everything is fine except voice commands and one other will fc constantly but a battery pull fixes that.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scorneil:
makes sense. wonder if there is a noticeable difference between freezing and deleting
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] secularhuman:
Could you teather your phone to the Transformer so as to get 3g service?

Would you need the keyboard to do this, since it has a full size USB?

Secular
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dark_aura:
I currently have a iPad 2 WiFi, it can tether just fine with my rooted EVO. I suppose the same will happen with the Transformer (still waiting for it).

I do not think the keyboard is needed... why anyway? I mean tether via WiFi
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aarofloyd:
you can definitely tether you phone to your transformer...seems like bluetooth tether seems to be the best bet right now.

Get em paired and let the data flow!:cool:
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tone503773:
How do you setup Bluetooth tethering?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aarofloyd:
Without having it right here in front of me....

First, your phone needs to have the wireless tether app.which means you most likly will need to be rooted. Go to the settings and switch it to the bluetooth tether rather than the wireless one. Make the device discoverable. Then go on your transformer and go to wireless & networks>bluetooth settings> check turn on bluetooth then scan for devices. It should find you phone, so select it. Once the devices are connected there should be an option on the transformer in the bluetooth settings that say something about using bluetooth data tether or something along those lines. Select that and you should be all set!

If you are still having issues let me know and i can do a more detailed (and accurate) walkthrough tonight when I get home.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brachiopod:
Yes, you can use your phone if it provides the right sort of hot spot (infrastructure). I've tested my LG Optimus with the Transformer and it works fine. There are other tethering options if your phone does not have a hotspot, a program like PDA.net, using bluetooth (if your phone has a BT modem driver). What will not work is a program that turns your phone into an Ad Hoc hotspot, unless someone gets Ad Hoc working on the TF (should be possible, they have to change the supplicants file).
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markteacher:
Don't know about bluetooth tethering, but my transformer connects to my android 2.2 HTC Desire wifi hotspot with no problems.

Password is stored, and it connects automatically when unconnected to my home wifi.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zapatathemute:
Mines working perfect with my g2.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahmadshawki:
Having troubles connecting to my Optimus S...

I wonder what are the steps. I have an HTC Hero (Sprint) on CM7 and it works fine through Bluetooth connection to WiFi-Tether.

On the contrary, my Optimus S (Sprint), i rooted it and then installed WiFi-Tether. Then I tried to tether it to my Asus (with the same settings on both sides) but I can't find the option "Tether" in the Bluetooth Settings. It just disappeared. I tried everything . Un-pairing, Changing some of the settings, Restarting both devices, everything...

So, is there something I'm doing wrong? Am I missing something? Is the "LG" name not good for the connection?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m1ket:
My galaxy s phone functions as a wireless hotspot so can be used by any device that has wifi ability, im not sure if this feature is specific to gakaxy s or an android feature

Funnily enough ive connected all sorts to it xbox, laptop, ipad etc
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lacrossev:
I've used the wifi hotspot built in to CM7 (infrastructure) in my car for my passengers to use my transformer with the day i took it out of the box. Haven't tried BT yet but any infrastructure type will work. I've noticed that if the app doesn't have the option to switch between infrastructure and ad-hoc, "tether" will refer to ad-hoc while "hotspot" will mean infrastructure. Good luck!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] keitht:
I haven't tried it yet but a new version of MoboPlayer is available with added Tegra 2 support:

http://moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
[Xoom Themes and Apps] MitchRapp:
yup, works great. Gotta get the codec (but you have no choice, when you open the app it tells you you need it and gives you market link, so you can't miss it!)
[Xoom Themes and Apps] gerbick:
This has quickly become my video player of choice; however I'm honestly amazed that it doesn't play *.divx files like VLC does.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] cwizardtx:
Is there any better playback for MKV?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] jondwillis:
Hmm I just re-downloaded Moboplayer with the codec it recommended from the market and now sound isn't working on anything...
[Xoom Themes and Apps] KNK:
I haven' tried a MKV yet but I will in a few, the market download gave me the same issue with no sound so I uninstalled everything and did a manual codec install from within mobo ... working perfect now :)
[Xoom Themes and Apps] KidJoe:
just tried with a downloaded MKV of a TV show...

Video played, but no audio. VIdeo was a little jerky...

here is the file info per MediaInfo..

Format : Matroska
File size : 1.46 GiB
Duration : 43mn 15s
Overall bit rate : 4 823 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-11-04 19:36:12
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.4.0 ('Fumbling Towards Ecstasy') built on Oct 11 2008 20:13:15
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 43mn 15s
Bit rate : 4 181 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.189
Stream size : 1.24 GiB (85%)
Writing library : x264 core 65 r1016 dbc5ef0
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=4181 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 43mn 15s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 198 MiB (13%)
Language : English
[Xoom Themes and Apps] le_pere_noel:
the problem of your file is the high profile, tegra 2 doesn't support high profil that's all
[Xoom Themes and Apps] zonk7ate9:
I think this is an Android limitation rather than a Tegra 2 issue. Either way its hit and miss for me. One enccoder works flawlessly at 4500 while anything encoded by handbrake at that bit rate is choppy.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] KidJoe:
I thinking the "base only" profile was an h.264 limit...

and got a little confused by the CODEC ID: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC thinking it was MP4, not x264 inside...

Funny the video plays fine, but the audio doesn't.

The ones I've run through Handbrake to turn into MP4's play a little smoother, at least on the Xoom's screen... HDMI out to my TV is still a little jerky
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Kcarpenter:
Can someone mirror the codec file please? I can't seem to hit their site.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] ClydeB1:
As well as the Moboplayer.apk please. I have a serious issue where any file from the market will download and as it comes to install MyApps FC's and the app just won't install. Don't know what else to do, I've cleared data and caches from Market and MyApps, but still no joy.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] insty:
Go into myapps and click uninstall updates.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] ClydeB1:
Thanks mate, that did the trick you're a star :D
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bigmille:
I also have this problem when playing h.264 MKV files. However, there is a work around.

Within Mobo Setting, there is an option called "Default using soft-decoding" under Playback section.

The video will have audio playback, but it might be jerky or there is lag between video and audio depend on video file.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] xo96:
Glad I stumped into the Moto forum. The player works good with my Iconia A500 with RMVB files.!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] drhill:
I'd guess the audio doesn't play because it doesn't support hardware AC3 (DD) decoding?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Athenon87:
This works for me, but I don't really understand why it's necessary. I have an mkv file with mpga audio and it plays the video just fine, but no audio. Isn't there a way to play the audio without taking the performance hit?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] alias_neo:
Yeh the lack of hardware audio decode is a real shame, means we have to switch to soft decode to get audio, hopefully there is something the mobo player team can do about it, maybe we should try get in contact with them?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] SilentMobius:
Just to clarify, this does _not_ use Tegra hardware acceleration, its just optimized for the ARM core (Like using an SSE optimised binary on a PC)

The _only_ way we will get usable 720p+ h.264 (main profile) and/or use an MKV container is if the _platform_ gets updated with support for the MKV container and Nvidia update their OMXs for the platform.

No app will improve of the default playback
[Xoom Themes and Apps] jrezin:
playback rate control

I just wish this app to support playback rate (speed) control with pitch correction. (a must to watch the majority of video classes…)
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bigmille:
Also the on screen volume control is sooo much easier to use than the tiny volume control buttons on the Xoom.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] ml3000:
Best video app ive used... awesome!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] patass:
yeah im not understanding this codec thing. It says to download a zip from the site but all i see are .apk's. the market method doesnt give me sound, either in software or hardware mode.

ugh, nvm, I just had my bluetooth headphones on, and they were on the other side of the room -_-
[Xoom Themes and Apps] madsquabbles:
lol good one there! at least you figured it out.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] mpfstc:
I'm looking for the stock AOSP browser. I am on Bamf 1.5. I like it better then the HTC browser. Thanks in advance!
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] Legacystar:
Id love this too
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] wisenick:
I'm gonna bump it even though I'm pretty sure the app won't work, I was gonna download an aosp rom such as cm7 but for some reason I can't find pdanet in the market on bamf 1.5 and I can't stand wireless tether and I don't have internet at my house. Guess I'll try downloading the rom on my phone and I'll be sure to let you know if the aosp internet app works