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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 5systems:
Hey all,

I did some searching but could not find a specific answer for my question, and please excuse my lack of rooting/rom knowledge.

I rooted my Evo 4G a few months back and want to know if I can update it to the latest version of android without loosing my Factory HTC sense?

Also I think I rooted with unrevoked???? and I was looking at ROM Manager in-case I had to loose my HTC Sense to update, I would like to find a close HTC Sense rom to put back, but from what I found ROM Manager does not work with a phone rooted with unrevoked. How can I tell if that is what I used?

thanks guys.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Rom manager will work with whatever root method you used; it just doesn't work with amon_ra recovery. And if you want sense on android 2.3, head over tot he development section and look up a "gingersense" rom.

Just backup your rom in recovery, then flash the new one.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdh10475:
Check out Fresh Evo rom by Flipz its now been updated to 2.3 which is gingerbread what it sounds like you want. But be sure to read the op because it only works correctly with auto dim if you have an Epson panel. Just be sure to read it and decide if its for you. Also I have used Rom Manager and I also used unrevoked forever and I had no issues. Hope this helps.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Landara:
Also the Fresh beta is very very buggy with regards to the camera. My video was basically unwatchable. But aside from that, 2 thumbs WAY THE **** UP it's an awesome ROM.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thznutz87:
Virus kingdom Rom will be the end all Rom. Check out the kingdom thread.

Infected HTC Supersonic.........<3 Virus
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khadafeeee:
go with miks gingersense till Virus drops his Kingdom port:D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dougjamal:
I'll do my best to answer your question.

Yes. Go to the link below and download the leaked Gingerbread rom with HTC Sense. Afterwards, go into recovery and make a nandroid of your current setup. After that, you can either wipe cache & dalvik and flash atop of your current rom or do a full wipe and then flash. If you decide you want to go back to what you had, simply go into recovery and restore the backup you made. If you didn't do a nandroid backup, go to the second link below and download one of the shipped roms for the EVO.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1038701

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=884060

If you rooted your device with UnrEVOked, then more than likely, your recovery is ClockworkMod. ClockworkMod gets the job done, but I recommend using amon RA v2.3. I believe it is more stable and I like the menu layout. Still, it's all a matter of preference. As for ROM Manager, I'm not a fan of it. It is far too easy to go into recovery to manually flash roms, however, ROM Manager does work with amon RA in that it can swap recoveries for you as well as flash roms.

The easiest way is to start ROM Manager. There should be a section that tells you what your recovery is.
[General Questions and Answers] asianlty:
my optimus chic always shut down in the half way of playing in homerun battle 3d, slice it, flight control. does anyone have the same problem as me?? is there any way to fix it???

BTW when i'm playing PES 2011, the game is run very smooth but when i touch the screen it became very lagy, not just PES, same thing happen in some other 3D games.
[Atrix 4G General] graemegb:
Just updated to 1.8.3 and tried to root with gingerbreak. i clicked root device and it pops up the little exploiting window and it just sits there. i have left it alone for 10 minutes and it just force closes. any help?
[Atrix 4G General] tripleh3lix:
sorry man...
[Atrix 4G General] lauterm:
It worked for me. Do you have an external SD card in the phone? Are you still connected to the PC in mass storage mode with debugging enabled?
[Atrix 4G General] graemegb:
no i took out my external sd, and wasnt in mass storage mode. ill try it!
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
I flashed Gingerbreak with USB Debugging and None.

Gingerbreak should be on your internal SD, so no need for external SD to be in there.
[Atrix 4G General] NguyenHuu:
you are suppose to have a an external sdcard in there while you do this.
[Atrix 4G General] stl-soldier:
From what I have experienced, you MUST have an external SD card inserted or it will not work. Also, it has wiped my internal SD every time I've ran it.
[Atrix 4G General] crea78:
Gingerbreak worked for me on 1.8.3. However, you MUST install Gladenable to enable sideloading.
[Atrix 4G General] holtenc:
I didnt have to use gladenable. I had gingerbreak waiting on my ext SD card when I started the whole process:

RSD to 1.26 -> gladroot (+enable sideloading option)-> OTA 1.57 -> after update gladroot -> RSD 1.83 -> gingerbreak

I didn't even have my phone connected to my PC via USB. but I did have debugging enabled. installed gingerbreak from external card
[Atrix 4G General] crea78:
After I installed Gingerbreak, I didn't have the option to install non-market apps, so that is why I had to go the Gladenable route.
[Atrix 4G General] lsxrx7:
this is interesting ...

last time i did gingerbreak on my friends phone i just load it right on the internal SD card ...

and gingerbreak didnt format / delete anything either ...

he was on 1.5.7

i was confused for a sec but i m like ... it works so whatever ...
[Atrix 4G General] PixoNova:
Yeah I had no problem with the internal SD being formatted. Strange. I have heard that it requires you to have the external SD.

Swyped from my Motorola Atrix 4g using XDA Premium App
[Atrix 4G General] rjayflo:
so.....Gingerbreak does work for the 1.8.3 update?
[Atrix 4G General] gnahc79:
yes it does. back up your internal SD, every time I rooted w gingerbreak it wiped out my internal SD memory.
[Atrix 4G General] stl-soldier:
Doesn't make sense that for some it wipes out internal SD and others it doesn't. Either way, it works on 1.8.3.
[Atrix 4G General] gnahc79:
gingerbreak utilizes an overflow exploit, so the varying behavior is to be expected.
[Atrix 4G General] holtenc:
agreed. seems a little odd. gingerbreak wiped my internal SD clean. PITA... but what can a guy do?
[Atrix 4G General] climo:
I'm currently on 1.57 Gingerblur. Why did you root twice? Could we just flash 1.83 via RSD then run gingerbreak to root then gladenable to allow side loading? Just trying to make it simple as possible.
[Atrix 4G General] holtenc:
I did this because I wasn't sure if I could just flash 1.83 via RSD and successfully run gingerbreak without any other actions, since gingerbreak is an apk, and sideloading may be necessary to install such apk's. I couldn't find any definitive information in these threads about what works and doesn't work. Seems like some methods work for some while some don't. I was just covering all the bases. I'm no expert and I doubt if the course I took is optimal. All I do know... is that it worked... and that is what matters to me.

and yes I can see the contradiction in logic with the way I did things. but like I said.. it worked and that's what matters.
[Atrix 4G General] stl-soldier:
Same here. I guess if you use another sideloading method earlier in the update process you might not need it. I do a total wipe then flash 1.8.3, then GingerBreak, the GladEnable. Works great.
[Atrix 4G General] nsourm:
gingerbreak

I can confirm that gingerbreak worked for me.
[Atrix 4G General] graemegb:
Got it to work. just popped in my extra sd card, plugged into computer set to "none" and then did gladenabler afterwards.
[Atrix 4G General] OSNPA:
In the end it worked for me- sideloading was already successful. First, I didn't realize that the .exe file was installing the apk on the phone because it didn't seem to do anything. I tried installed using adb and it said install already existed. As I was scratching my head, I came across a post talking about it being in the app drawer, so I looked and there it was. I still had it plugged into USB, I ran it, and it kept going for about 15 minutes with no resolution. So I shut down, pulled the battery, started up, and root check confirmed I was not rooted. I disconnected USB and ran gingerbreak again and it worked in all of 15 seconds, confirmed with root check. A little embarrassing, but might help other noobs that don't really know much about this stuff.

Edit: it also zapped my internal SD, so I just copied the whole backup from my computer back onto the internal SD and there were minimal issues.
[Atrix 4G General] crea78:
I had no problems with Gingerbreak erasing my Internal SD storage. I was prepared though and backed it up to my PC right before doing the root.
[Atrix 4G General] mk1151:
Sorry for the stupid noob questions:

1) Is this the only way to root the Atrix without having to back-rev to .26?

2) Can it be un-done?

3) It doesn't wipe the removable card, correct?

4) To backup the internal card you just drag and drop the contents from the folder in USB storage mode to your HDD, then when the phone boots up, just drag it all back?

Thanks
[Atrix 4G General] gnahc79:
1) yes

2) with v1.2 there is an unroot option

3) It did not for me, only the internal SD. However, back up the removable card just in case.

4) Yes.
[General Topics] egzthunder1:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/h04zw/fcc_opens_comment_period_for_att_takeover_of/" target="_blank

Looks like the FCC wants to listen to the public for once...

Thoughts?
[General Topics] caffeinejunky:
I am a T-Mobile USA Customer. My contract ends right about the time when the merger should be complete. I personally have mixed thoughts about this merger, mainly because of how much AT&T charges for their plans. I am currently in one of the old 1500 minutes family plan + unlimited mobile to mobile + unlimited nights and weekends + unlimited data + unlimited messaging for $99.99 monthly (this plan doesnt exist anymore)

Honestly, as long as I get to keep my plans as it is and have access to the latest phones at a discounted rate like i am now, I'll be happy.
[General Topics] PixoNova:
I can't wait for the merger to go through :)
[General Topics] noesilva:
Sprint welcomes you ;) wimax all the way unless u live in a basement then ur screwed
[General Topics] Smokexz:
I have been a T-Mobile customer since the release of the Samsung Vibrant (so about 7 months or so). I have gone from that device to the G2 to the Mytouch 4G and now own a Nexus S, while not on contract, I still enjoy T-Mobile, the price is great and I do not need a contract. AT&T is promising that no one with a contract will have to change their contract, but what about me? I am one of those people that dislike a long term commitment, especially since I cannot see myself using a device longer than a year. I also cannot afford to be tied to a contract, I enjoy the service it's fast and very reliable. AT&T would make me either get a 2 year contract or take a hike, which is ridiculous. The idea that every single T-Mobile subscriber will go to AT&T and form THE biggest number of subscribers is ludicrous. I doubt people will be willing to pay the price that AT&T has for this "super network" mostly due to the fact that their service is downright dreadful, and extremely expensive, plus the majority, if not all devices that T-Mobile users own... most likely are not going to be compatible with the new Network, meaning we will also need new devices.

In all I think this shouldn't happen, it would also be unfair to the competition and to me and several other people, who rely on this great, cost friendly service. I hope this doesn't happen because if this does, I seriously don't know which network to turn to, their prices are just that great.
[General Topics] ghostnik:
This deal to me, who is a tmobile usa customer is some BS. First of all if this deal goes through, and I am forced by AT&T to upgrade b/c tmobile cell towers are turned off or changed to a different frequency, i will be screwed b/c there is no way in hell i would be able to pay for an at&t plan or even worst will be forced to stay with my current phone but probably only receive edge signal instead of 3g/4g signal. The whole reason i left Verizon and went to Tmobile is b/c its significantly cheaper than Verizon and also cheaper than AT&T and the service is good.

Second AT&T claims that this merger will stimulate the economy but how would it when tmobile employees will be layed off b/c a lot of employees at tmobile will have the same jobs as AT&T employees, so instead of AT&T paying 2 people to do 1 job, they will most likely lay off the Tmobile employees. how is laying off employees going to stimulate and help grow economy in USA.

Third if the FCC allow this deal to go through then we in the USA will be left with one GSM carrier, forming a monopoly in the GSM field in the USA, so that means AT&T will be able to up the price of plans, phones and etc., b/c they are the only GSM carrier left and for all of us who only won't GSM phones we will be screwed b/c we won't have any other option but to pay what AT&T says b/c they have a monopoly. Also I think the FCC should take into account that the reason why phone prices/plans are the way they are is b/c there are 4 major carriers, by reducing it to 3, that means less competition, and when there is less competition the customers feel the pain of that. I don't think they want to force people to decide which to choose between "Food" or "having a cellphone" b/c as it is, our economy here in the States is in harsh times, people are losing jobs and for the people who have jobs, wages aren't going up, so if a cell phone company raises prices, then people will be screwed b/c of this harsh economy and will be forced to have to make cut backs to save money and one of those just might be having a cell phone.

I hope FCC that no one but at&t will benefit from this deal and not consumers.

For anyone that wants to read an article that looks at it from both points of view check this link out: http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/26/att-t-mobile-usa-case-merger/

the person who wrote article, wrote it beautifully and looks at a lot of details about the merger.
[General Topics] xboarder56:
just posed to stop merger :D
[General Topics] britoso:
I switched to T-Mo to get away from att, their expensive plans and bad service (customer service and radio reception).

Too bad the form needs you to identify yourself publicly.
[General Topics] dilwaladoctor:
Im a jobless man, have a three year old phone (though Im a tech-loving guy and desperately want to upgrade my device) and use internet (google voice and skype) for making calls. However I needed a phone number to put on my job application forms and to recieve calls from the employers. I couldnt afford the post-paid packages of any network so I thought about prepaid. After alot of research, I found that T-mobile has the most affordable prepaid package ($10 for 30 minutes valid for 3 months). So Im using this cheapest available plan now. Im really afraid that if I dont get a job and this great company is taken over by AT&T , what would happen to me and many others like me. Im married, have children and cant afford paying big phone bills. GOD help us.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
+1 ... I also am hoping it will happen. Canned T-Mobile and now am exclusively AT&T. AT&T needs the bandwidth to advance their 4G/LTE network. Let T-Mobile be gobbled up with ferocity! :D
[General Topics] galaxys:
Just posted stop the Merger!
[General Topics] ghostnik:
the whole thing about bandwidth is a bunch of baloney, AT&T have so much spectrum through there last merger, that they are not using a lot of there bandwidth. The reason why they need tmobile is b/c tmobile spectrum/radio frequencies are mostly unified on similar frequencies, so it would be most cost effective and cheaper to just by tmobile and use there network which is more unified and change it into LTE rather than using there own AT&T network; whose network refrequencies are not unified.

For AT&T to actual go LTE without using Tmobile network they would have to first unify there radio frequency then go LTE which would cost them to much money.
[General Topics] NewZJ:
I am against this merger, "ma bell" is trying to buy her way to recreate the "empire"

their symbol looks like the death star for a reason
[General Topics] mjmonsada:
If the merge happens then that means htc sensation will be available for at&t??? If so, I cant wait for the merge to happen. Yipppeeeekayay!
[General Topics] Diamond_dawg:
you forgot the MF :P
[General Topics] m356f1:
im against the "merger". att has plenty of bandwith and i dont think people with tmobile want to go from good customer service to none at all. im just glad i have verizon with a real 4g lte network and not att's 4g (which is just hspa). if anyone on tmobile is considering switching carriers, well ill just give you a glimpse into what verizons 4g is like
[General Topics] ghostnik:
That speed was amazing but to be fair, we won't know if Verizon LTE will remain as fast as it is now, until they have more people on LTE using there network, then lets see how fast there speeds are.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
AT&T does me good where I am. The plan I'm on is no more expensive than the same one on T-Mobile. Everyone I know never has anything bad to say about AT&T and I've never had any calling issues and the data speeds are just as fast as T-Mobile's. And the CS is pretty awesome. They seem to go out of their way to help customers. Really impressed me when the associate made every effort to assist me with my Inspire compass issues. They also went above and beyond making an effort in helping me understand the monthly statement.

T-Mobile is a different story. They actually lost a significant payment I made one time and if not for me keeping the print-out of the transaction, I never would have recovered the money because it didn't show up in the system. The only proof I had that I made the huge payment was that 8x11" print-out. Sheesh! I was glad I had that. From the lengthy research they were doing, I was convinced T-Mobile corporate was going to decline responsibility. If it wasn't for that one store manager, who said he would keep on it with the lost-payment application, I wouldn't have been compensated. I never did receive the money back. They just credited my account rather than apply it to the hardware like it was suppose to be.

Ever since going over to AT&T before they changed from Cingular and bought out Cellular One, they have been awesome. A stellar example of proper business. And everyone I talk to who has T-Mobile always complain of dropped calls. I never experience any dropped calls and the data was always fast and reliable. But the CS really sucks. A percentage of stores employ Android fanboys/girls, too. I had a bad experience at one store that sold me my first 3 faulty HD7s. I finally went to a different store and got a good HD7.

Nah...as far as I'm concerned, AT&T is it for me. They've always been good to me. I will keep on with them.
[General Topics] Rampart19:
Never ever had a dropped call on my end with T-Mobile. Love the fact that they have the most competitive pricing. Saddened by the fact that AT&T is too lazy to spend the extra money to revamp their own cell towers and instead wants to buy out the competition, and the fact that AT&T have been allowed to recreate their empire that was broken up in the first place so many years ago under anti-trust laws and such.
[General Topics] Park:
AT&T & T-Mobile Merger

I have been a T-Mobile customer since 2003 year. I am very happy with T-Mobile great customer service and very knowledgeable since AT&T technical support is not. I have the old plan grandfathered in the 1000 anytime minutes, 500 text messages & unlimited internet which I pay anywhere from $69.00 to around $71.00 a month. AT&T is much higher. My Qtek 9000 (Universal) a European phone which I use for my companies which I get 3G on the download link which is also grandfathered in since it was the first WCDMA Band 1 3G device which has the 2100 3G frequency which does work in the U.S. on the download link not upload link side. If AT&T & T-Mobile merge I would not get 3G on my device as for internet browsing or when I use outlook for 3 different email accounts. I also have a Tilt 2 which I use T-Mobile & AT&T sim card. I would be very unhappy if this merger does go through which my Qtek 9000 would not get the 3G on the download link side and only get GSM/GPRS which would be very, very slow and force me to sell my device. On the newer T-Mobile phones the 2100 3G frequency will not in the United States it work only on the Band 1 WCDMA frequency. The 1700 Band 4 WCDMA will only work on 3G frequency since the towers will detect this when using a T-Mobile sim card and detect your device.
[General Topics] Julio C:
Im against the merger just because of the fact that now my wife will be without a job as she worked as a customer rep in a call center and I know all the values that Tmo installed into all their reps. They care about the calls and their scores and now its all gone and she will be without a job. They didnt even offer them a job with ATT. Really going to hit us hard. So Im against because it hits my entire family in a different way.
[General Topics] djyosnow:
Good Luck W-That

In my days I had ATT in GB, WI & they were the biggest joke ever. Though I learned quickly to take advantage of there poor service. I even was crafty enough to talk my way out of two lines of service, no termination fee! My experience as every one says is, THEY ARE EXPRESSIVE.

I never got to experience there 3g service which was rumored over five years (customer service lies) & now its only been in the packer stadium area a few years at best. So 4g ill be luck to see them roll it out in my life time. (FYI: I'm only middle age at best)

Finally its a known fact GSM service supports less customers than any other type. One main reason i hated orange & blue, ATT. I had dropped calls all the time & could not get any out during peak hours or holidays.

With that said i can only hope the merge is an epic fail, which is in there footsteps. I had ATT at least three times when service dropped out as a whole, no service of any kind. (WI, IL & More) I can only conclude the merge will blow up in an epic proportion for good, sparks flying every where!!
[General Topics] m356f1:
that has nothing to do with the employees. i really dont think they were purposely giving you a bad phone everytime. unless you were a jerk (but you probably werent) and yelled the the employees, then i could see them taking the phone to the back room and throwing it the wall before giving it to you. im sure tho it was just bad luck and not CS.
[General Topics] nickdog670:
Doesn't matter if the merger stops because T-Mobile wont be independent. T-Mobile will just be put up on the market for sale again.
[General Topics] Patron253:
retardedddddd
[General Topics] jr2673:
I hope they do not let this happen i hope filling this will help stop the merger
[General Topics] steezee:
I'm for the merger...T-Mobile is up for sale for a reason...they are broke...This merger can either go through now or T-Mobile will go bankrupt and AT&T will pick up their assets
[General Topics] MartyLK:
+1

The way I see it, the merger will benefit the economy and allow a stable, well capable, wireless carrier to serve the needs of a growing and expanding market. Stopping the merger will destabilize the system. AT&T won't have the needed bandwidth to deal with the ever increasing market and T-Mobile will flip-flop and flounder, doing nothing prosperous for the market.