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[Thunderbolt General] ben7337:
1x is actually limited to about 144kbps up and down I believe. Go to the 1x speed test forums from people stuck on it and see for yourself, no clue where in your imaginary world 1x is 1mbps.

Try loading www.adovcate.com and tell me how long it takes you, I just did and it took 59 seconds to get to it having enough to be useable and another 10-12 seconds to fully download. I just did a speed test and has .74mbps down, which is within verizon's claims of 600kbps-1400kbps for 3g down speeds, fully acceptable. Now tell me how amazing 3G is if I am running at 3g speeds and it takes over 1 minute to load a simple webpage that takes firefox on my dorm internet 3 seconds?
[Thunderbolt General] WillTheGreat:
Why do we need 1GB of ram? Dual Cores? These types of questions have been asked for centuries. The answer to all of them, because you should! I like having the extra speed on the task that I do on my phone on a daily bases. Browsing the net is faster, downloads are faster, buffering time is lower.

It's a new technology, and I think people are expecting too much in terms of battery life. It's a 1st generation LTE device, where not only is the technology on the phone new, but the network is relatively small. It was like EV-DO devices, you didn't really need them at the time. Their battery life was horrible when it was constantly searching for signal that you probably didn't use.

I don't really understand why anyone would buy a 4g device, then question the necessity of it. You can do everything on 1x, EV-DO, and LTE just the same as they all lead you to the same place. However, how much longer will each take?
[Thunderbolt General] HawkStream:
Dude I dont know what you are talking about.. I'm on 3G and just wnt to that site and it took 8 seconds to load...!

And thats not a lie... push me on it and I will do a video showing that. You are nuts or have a really messed up phone.
[Thunderbolt General] ben7337:
Weird, I am on my phone now on xda and even the forum takes 15 to 40 seconds to load a page, and that's time with the up and down arrows on 3g lit, the advocate site was mostly time with the browser sitting saying it is loading and not doing anything but still 20 or 30 seconds was active downloading. Not sure why it is so much faster for you on your phone than on my droid 2 global but I don't think my phone is messed up and even if it was there is no way to prove or verify that it is, verizon people would laugh me out of the store.
[Thunderbolt General] packruler:
4g allows simultaneous voice and data
[Thunderbolt General] EDD Skitz:
That is done on the 3G network, nothing to do with lte
[Thunderbolt General] qwirked:
Yep. It's done 3g via rev. A and rev. B bands
[Thunderbolt General] emarusamun:
Took me 7 seconds on 3g but I think he misspelled it. So I did advocate.com instead of adovcate.com and the page had alot more data to load but still completely loaded in about 17 seconds (cm7 stock browser)

Edit: Said he had .74mbps speed so maybe that's the factor there as I am getting 2.3mbps on 3g.

And for the original question, .....I am very impatient. When I hit enter I want it done. Try eating ice cream but make yourself take a minute before the spoon gets to your mouth.

3G is plenty fast no doubt, but faster is better. :P
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
It took me 7 seconds to load this website completely on 3g.nn
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
Oops website was misspelled.. advocate.com took 17 seconds to completely load using Dolphin beta...
[Thunderbolt General] khanam:
3g is fine for me but 1x is too slow. 4g is much faster but until they solve the battery drain issue, I will be on 3g most of the time.

Sent from my thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] inzandity:
Am I the only one sick of these threads? 4G if awesome because I can watch sling box in full hq without any buffering times and download full movies to my phone in minutes instead of hours.

Those saying they dont need 4g, go back to your pentium 2 processor with 128mbs of ram and tell me why you like multiple core cpus and triple channel ram...
[Thunderbolt General] wakestrong:
Sorry but your being unreasonable and only considering your personal habits apply to everyone else in the nation. You must be the lucky top 1 percent of the top 1 percent for 1X speeds because I couldn't get anything done on that slow junk. Not to mention for me 1X was going in and out, the network was in bad shape.

For those in the big city like myself, we were like 10,000 pigs fighting to get fed by one skinny momma pig.

Anyone smell a troll in the room?

I was trying to refrain from cutting down Verizon and giving them a hard time (this is my first post to actually give my opinion on the situation) but your post makes me want to let Verizon know this is in no way acceptable. I asked Verizon if I could go back to old 3g via 778 and their response was no don't it will mess up authentication on your phone....so they wanted me to stay on slow 1X, according to Verizon's rules, protocol or whatever we were all to stay on 1X.

This is XDA FYI
[Thunderbolt General] wakestrong:
Just wondering, are you affiliated with Verizon?
[Thunderbolt General] Cubs2008:
+10000000000000

I've watched both NHL Gamecenter Live and MLB At Bat games on both 3g and 4g and it's not even remotely close to the amount of latency I get on 3g vs 4g. I can stream an entire game on LTE without so much a hiccup vs on 3g where the game will basically scramble the image and put it back together pixel by pixel until it ends up freezing and I have to restart the stream.

Now that LTE is in the two places I am at the most (Philadelphia and the Lehigh Valley) it's no contest. I even have my Bolt in LTE Mode and if I don't have LTE I switch it up to wifi. Both are going to trump 3g speeds a majority of the time (at least where I'm at.)

If I wanted to stay on 3g I would've kept my X (and I loved that phone.) It's all about moving forward.
[Thunderbolt General] moosez3:
Oh God please tell me this is all a joke right?

There is no way you can be even satisfied with 2.3Down as a high average when Mine and many others High average is 14 or 15Down. I understand if your not in a LTE then Im sorry but... Youtube on HQ does not load even close to as fast on ANY 3G Network, on LTE I have never had to wait for a buffer.

Downloading MP3 in 2-3 seconds. When I was forced to use 3G yesterday took up to a minute on some songs, Songs now a days are 8-13mb because of increased quality.

Even daily usage, like going to webpages is faster, because... the internet is just faster. Especially flash websites, and watching embedded Flash videos. It used to be so bad that I would never show my phones ability to do embedded video, now that LTE can load a youtube video as fast as, if not faster, than WIFI... yeah I show it of a little.

Tethering, I cannot tell you how many times I have let people use my phones internet because UCF's Wifi was down, or they got poor signal or whatever... Even in my own house I have had to do this a couple times.

Beacuase everything is faster, you use more mb's. This first month, since april 3, I have used 6.7GB's tethering only at school or home for low mb usage. Most of the usage has been downloading mixtapes and stuff since I use the phone as my music player. Youtube also because it loads so fast I have used a lot as well.

Long story short: I was stuck on 3G yesterday, and not just tethering, but EVERYTHING was noticeably slower even opening fb, and I would NOT say that is acceptable in this day and Age, there is no defense for 3G or any 3G only-phone coming out, sorry Inc2. Until yesterday morning I forgot about 1X, Im trying to keep it forgotten! :o

If you raise the bar you raise the standards.
[Thunderbolt General] :
sorry but this post makes you sound ridiculous. "name the benefits of 4g over 3g, but don't mention any of these benefits because i don't think they're real."

like someone else mentioned, try comparing the two in a more populated area. i lived in seattle and now in chicago and when a lot of people use a network you want them off the tower more quickly so you can get your full bandwidth. what happens when 20 people in your area are trying to watch a youtube video the same time as you? just look at what happened to the sprint network for a ton of users. think a little harder before you post with such a doubtful tone.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
There is so much fail and false information in this... smh.

And now, we don't do the same thing, don't compare me to you, i'm not on a message board whining about a phone like a little kid. 1x is very fast to you... LMAO seriously, go get a Moto RAZR, you probably won't even notice the differences between the phones.
[Thunderbolt General] jcase:
mobile hd porn
[Thunderbolt General] iSecks:
This. Gotta be 1080p, too.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
Screw 1080p... it better be 4K
[Thunderbolt General] lancejt:
slow 3G

I am in a small town with just over 20k population. I receive anything in the neighborhood of 75kb - 400kb (400 is on a good day) over 3g.

Lets all realize that networks are different based on the area that you are using your device. I'm sure your 3g is great and you get the best speeds ever. But it's simply not true for everyone.

Before I'm told I have a messed up phone, these speeds are the average over 3 different devices starting from a HTC Touch Diamond -> Moto Droid -> HTC Thunderbolt...

I'm looking forward to a newer technology that will allow faster average speeds.
[Thunderbolt General] beyondyourscope:
have you made the move to DSL from 56k dialup yet?
[Thunderbolt General] magicriggs:
Why don't you just stick with a 3G device. Since you don't see the obvious benefits of 4G. Who would want faster downloads, full length flawless streaming HD movies and perfect group video conferencing, etc. etc. etc. Blah blah blah... In fact get off the Tbolt that way if your in my area your not using up my bandwith. Faster speeds for me and fast enough speeds for you. We both win.

I'm suprised at how many people in this forum wanna talk about 4G and bash it.

Oh on a side note, battery life will improve when 4G has all the bugs worked out.

My speculation but it makes sense.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1047479﻿

Could 4G save battery life. (Once all the bugs are out)
[Thunderbolt General] Smoothcrm7:
Trolls trolling trolls?
[Thunderbolt General] LoBatt:
In the burbs outside Atlanta, I get 2 Mbps down on 3G but in the office mecca inside Atlanta, it drops off dramatically and latency increases. I was in Boston last year during a convention with my OG Droid and 3G speeds were in the 20 kbps range when you could get a connection that didn't time out. LTE is consistently fast for me so far. Maybe not the 30 Mbps I get in the burbs but in town it's never been less than several Mbps. 3G is fine for most things on a phone and I keep it locked to 3G for battery life but it's definitely nice and sometimes critical to be able to switch over to LTE.
[Thunderbolt General] magicriggs:
Priceless lol.
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
How many "advantages of 4g" threads do we need? :rolleyes:
[Thunderbolt General] dbisch:
Because it's faster, that's why.

And I don't know how you're streaming YouTube at high quality on 3G without buffering.
[Thunderbolt General] Wynnded:
It's our competitive nature to be first/fastest/strongest/biggest/best. With 4G work gets done faster, why do you suppose computers keep getting faster? Why do you suppose we preferred WiFi over 3G? It's faster and is better on the battery.
[Thunderbolt General] ben7337:
Wow, I didn't realize anyone was so unlucky on 3G, I mean when I had virgin mobile with a samsung intercept I got speeds like that, but wow. Verizon advertizes and average of 600kbps-1400kbps, I'd call and demand an explanation as to why you are not getting the minimum average service they claim to offer. I'm usually only getting 600-1400kbps with a maximum of like 2300 in super good signal at super late times of the night usually and I'm horribly unhappy with my speeds, I can't imagine how you bear those speeds.
[Thunderbolt General] markalyea2:
This entire thread is unbelievable. Now, I live close to a Minneapolis 4G tower. ON AVERAGE... I get 28816 kbps down and 15487 up with a ping no greater then 130 ms. I quit paying for wifi and have been tethering everything to my thunderbolt because it is much much faster for me. Going back to 1x for me was horrible! It was like being thrown back to the dark ages! Technology is ALL about moving forward not complaining about how good we've got it! Yes, 3G works just fine. But why go back when I'm getting speeds as mentioned above? All of this with OVER a day of constant use out of my battery.
[Thunderbolt General] DNak206:
EXACTLY. You are full of **** if you claim you can stream the high-def versions of YouTube on 3g or anything else for that matter, NOT happening. That alone makes the 4G worthwhile but it's also beneficial for the tethering.
[Thunderbolt General] nerozehl:
I love 4G when and where I can get it, and until it's built-out, I'm willing to accept the 3G that I'm given, with humility. If you can't see the need for 4G, or need them spelled out for you, then you don't deserve it. So, you may kindly go back to enjoying your slow pace of life. :)
[Thunderbolt General] emarusamun:
as im in 3G 2.3mbps down is more than satisfactory considering i came from sprint and in the same area on sprint i was lucky to get a 400kbps down connection. 14mbps down would be sweet but what i have works til 4G rolls to my area.
[Thunderbolt General] mi7chy:
Ignore the silly troll spammer. How many "I love 1x" threads has he started?
[Thunderbolt General] emarusamun:
I watch YouTube hq on 3g, doesn't buffer til about halfway and only for a few seconds. So it is possible. Always buffers a lil tho so as far as completely smooth goes I say, maybe...

Update: just tested it out and YouTube hq just played smooth no skipping on 3g. loaded episode of =3 and hit hq button. Took bout 8 seconds to start but played all the way through without a single hiccup. Video was 4:41 long.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bangdoo:
Hi,

I need your help. I use about 3 months Widget Beautiful and recently updated it no longer by the hour

Manuel works. Now it will work again for 2 hours and again the same problem. Please help
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wesp1024:
Hi,

I had similar issue with it recently and email the developers - not response as yet. Might be issue with gingerbread version.
[Android Themes] brock.overcash:
Ok, all I want to do is replace the stock sense slider with my own. I tried using apk manager to replace some files in the framework-res.apk but I got a bootloop. Would retrying that be my best idea, or would trying to create my own personal theme chooser apk be better? Any feedback is appreciated.
[Android Themes] jambamkin:
Do you mean the lense lockscreen? I know the lockscreen isn't themeable from theme Chooser, yet. So you would need to replace the pngs in the existing apk. I think.

Sent from my DHD
[Android Themes] brock.overcash:
Yeah that's what I meant. So in theory all I have to do is open the framework-res.apk in apk manager, replace a png or two and recompile it?
[Android Themes] Dont Panic:
Metamorph or ZipThemer are great tools for replacing .png files in system apps. Many of my morphs change the sliders/rotary, among other things.
[Android Themes] brock.overcash:
ok, i got it to work using one of ur morphs as a base (thanks by the way), now the font color over it blends in. i cant find the xml i have to change, any ideas?
[Android Themes] phonghoangka:
i like ur idea , it can be awesome , do u think like that , in not so far , we can change eveythink , keep ur work , i really want to try it in the future
[Android Themes] Dont Panic:
Glad to help. I don't know what xml to change, but I really want to know now. :)

Themed lockscreen Lense sounds like something I should add to my morphs. Some will work with the black text, others I would like to use white. Please let me know if you find that answer.
[Android Themes] brock.overcash:
Still haven't found anything. I think i am going to ask around on here and twitter. Ill update if i find something
[Android Themes] Dont Panic:
Please do if you find out. I ended up just using the black text and framing it, but would still like to be able to change the text color.
[Android Themes] Holyachmed:
you can use the sense themes for widgetlocker and put them instead of the lense_background they are great but it will be way better if you have a white clock ...

ps. use ninjamorph for replacing PNGs
[Android Themes] rori~:
..you could edit: "keyguard_screen_tab_unlock.xml" and change all text colors
[Android Themes] Dont Panic:
Thanks rori. :)
[Android Themes] brock.overcash:
Haha that's pretty much what I did. I cropped a widgetlocker theme that I liked and replaced the lense png. Widgetlocker was just a little slow and buggy on the Inc CM7 nightlies.

And thanks rori. Btw where is that in the framework-res.apk?
[Android Themes] Dont Panic:
Ya, framework-res.apk/res/layout.

Ninjamorph is neat, but time consuming for the number of changes I make. ZipThemer and Metamorph are much faster.
[Android Themes] brock.overcash:
Wasn't even looking for keyguard stuff. Makes sense though. Thanks guys! I just gotta get on my computer tomorrow so I can edit the XML. Ill post my final morph if u want
[Android Themes] brock.overcash:
Hey, I opened the XML yesterday with notepad++ and a bunch of weird crap popped up. What am I doing wrong/what do you use to edit xml's?
[Android Themes] antonio1475:
You did decompile the apk, right? It should show a normal xml once it's decompiled. Try with APK Manager. I use Windows notepad for xml's.

:)
[Android Themes] brock.overcash:
Yeah I used apk manager. I will double check cause I could have easily just messed something up. Glad to know I'm on the right track though haha!
[Android Themes] jordonkobe:
I have the same problem, I want to change the lense lock pattern date & time color from black to white .
[Android Themes] equiliym:
last time i tried doing stuff with lockscreen, it got me deodexing frameworks android.policy.jar's classes.dex files and editig keyguard_stuff.smali files but ended with bootloop..

hope this helps a bit
[Android Themes] rori~:
lense (style, color,..) is all written in "RotarySelector.java", so if you find this and can edit, voila.
[Android Themes] rori~:
btw :) http://goo.gl/uAHc3
[Android Themes] brock.overcash:
Dang dude that looks nice
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravenv12:
I can get to HBoot and fastboot . But not to recovery. Also it will not boot up. I tried using a image from unlockr and also tried a few from here also but it's not root. "Main Version is Older" message only after "Checking PB00"

so does this one have any hope on fixing, Or is it a paperweight ?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravenv12:
Well I have not heard anything back from anybody. So I'm guessing the phone is a paperweight ? Well at least it's not my phone. That I was thinking about getting from my friend if I can fix it . for my girlfriend. :D because she likes my cell phone so much .
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sickbox:
Try following the steps here: How To Install Engineering bootloader FOR LEAK ROOTERS
[Samsung Mesmerize] where'smywifi?!:
So lets begin with, I have recently bought an SGS I5000 (March 25th). It has since then been working magnificent, until about 4 or 5 hours ago (lagging, force closing, and all that horrid stuff imaginable). I did indeed root via SuperOneClick and have successfully increased the performance. Linpack: 16+ (nearly eighteen at one point) and Benchmark (Antutu): 2,500 slighty above the HTC desire (including overclock; tegrak and (task killing, and freeing up as much space possible etc.). I have NOT however, flashed any kernels or ROMS. Mainly due to the fact that being this is my first official XDA forum post, I have not researched it nor have little to no knowledge of how to. Getting back to the matter at hand. My question(s) to you fellow androidians is: Is there a better way to root my phone using a different root tool? How do I get ROM manager to work? Is applanet worth the (lack) of expense? What is a "shell" root and how do I get it to work? (this part is a bit confusing because the box always pops up saying I have a temp. ADB root, and that I should reboot my phone to get rid of it. Well the problem in that area is that I need root to reboot my phone (even then it still fails to reboot using superuser) and standard reseting also fails miserably. How do I get most of my rooted apps to work? ( I've gotten the standard lagfix:v1+ to work ONE single time and then I turned it off, and it has not worked since and even before then due to not enough free space it tells me). Even though when I check my freespace I have more than enough. So it tell's me, and I was just wondering if anyone has any spare time to help me out? Now the MAIN question is! What can I do (in all general aspects of the android community) to get the ABSOLUTE best out of my mesmerize? Sincerely, David! SGS I5000 (froyo 2.2.2)
[Samsung Mesmerize] add144:
Alright you're going to have to be more clear and explain specifically whats going on...First off, did you successfully root the phone or not? If SuperOneClick successfully rooted your phone, then its rooted, thats it. There's no to be messing around in adb.

Sorry your post really is just confusing, I'm simply having a hard time deciding what your situation is.

Secondly, ROM Manager will not work on the Mesmerize, period.

Lastly, I don't know what applanet has to do with anything (it doesn't even require a rooted phone) but FYI, this is not the place to discuss pirating software (which is applanet's primary use). So, just keep that kind of jazz to yourself.
[Samsung Mesmerize] where'smywifi?!:
Nvm buddy, figured it out :7 thanks for the reply though! And as for the "blackmarket" apk. I have not used it, but seeing the reply you gave me about it told me everything I needed to know :P sorry for the confusion, I've had this thing for a month and this is the only time I've needed help, but I've got it worked out now.
[Samsung Mesmerize] add144:
No problemo man. Glad you got it up and running.
[Epic 4G General] Promni:
a few months ago i rooted and installed clockworkmod v2.5.1.0 and installed a rom on my phone, everything went smoothly until a few days ago i wanted to try another rom, so i backup my phone on clockworkmod and do what i remember i had to do, and installed the new rom, but my phone just stayed in the turning on logo, right now i cant use my phone or restore my old rom and i keep getting E:can't open /cache/recovery/log

after pretty much any command i try. i need urgent help so i can use my phone!
[Epic 4G General] sryans2004:
I'm no expert or anything but I believe if you were using clockworkmod 2.5 you are running rfs (I believe it is) and you were trying to install a new rom which most likely is ext4 which is what caused the boot loop. So to make it eaiser to understand you tried to flash a newer rom on clockwork mod 2.5 when you needed clockwork mod 3.0+ (ext4 enabled). So now your going to have to use odin and go back to a stock of your choice ec05 I would say.

Check the wiki in android development and see what you need to go back to stock with odin, that will help
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Yes, you need to Odin back to stock. There are stickies on top of the forums on how to fix a bricked epic, restore stock. My guess is you tried a ROM that required EXT4 file system. If you still wish to try these ROMs there is a sticky at top of Development for installing Clockwork Mod 3.0.0.6.

Do you BONSAI?