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[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
2 Q's

1. Would it be possible (after we get source) to be added to miuiandroid or miui.us's official device list so that they would compile the ROMS instead of you every week (Nothing against you, just so that it'd be easier and as soon as the other devices get it)?

2. Would it be possible to make an AOSP GB kernel from a combination of the i9000 kernel source of gb (or fascinate's) and the froyo epic kernel source (adding essential epic files to GS kernel)?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
@mike 77, are you working with asdfghjkl on this project at all?
[Epic 4G Android Development] azyouthinkeyeiz:
It is.. lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
@mike77 and asdfghjkl

You guys should work together and with the Fascinate MIUI Dev guy I pmed (jt1134). He'd be happy to help. I tried to ask galaxy s people and they cussed me out lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] rulyskull:
Shoulda told them that everytime they curse they gotta put a nickel in the jar lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
I just PM'd Mike 77 that very same thing...
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
We are working together lol we have been since 1.3.5 and the fascinate has a new guy working on it. Andmer is his name I think. I PM'd him but no reply. Right now were just trying to get one to boot. As soon as that happens we will work on the FC's and errors lol so for the time being its like a race to see who can get passed the sammy screen xD
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Sweet. If there's anything I can do to help, I'll be glad to. What about Ahmgsk? He hasnt tweeted in awhile and said he's been working on stuff, but never posted it. He'll probably work with you guys. If andmer doesn't respond, get jt1134 on IRC or PM. Or also, there's Jamezelle who was working with ahmgsk and got the first fascinate build around the time we got our first build and it was the same version, but then there's went way ahead and ours stayed the same until Mike77 and asdfghjkl. Ask Jamezelle.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Here's a couple quotes from the MIUI General thread:

QUOTE 1

I love the MIUI rom, and I am just trying to help the epic community get an awesome rom ported over. I dont have my epic anymore otherwise I would try this myself.

Quote 2:

Sorry to butt-in guys, but something you might try. We ran a version of Miui for the nexus s (gsm) on the nexus s 4g (cdma) just by modifying the install script and build.prop to show crespo4g instead of crespo and it worked fine, I think there were some issues with the mms originally but not any more.

QUOTE 3:

I just brought it up because I know when I had an epic, I flashed a stock ns4g rom on it using the epic cm7 kernal(I think it was phasma who built it) and changing the install script. It booted, but there were tons of fc's.

Anyway, you dont know what will happen until you try it.

Quote 4:

What I was getting at is: If we can take a rom from a gsm version of the nexus s, and change the install script, build prop, and kernel, and it works on our cdma nexus s 4g, why cant you take the rom from the i9000, or similar phone to the epic and do the same.

Is there an answer? Is this possible?

Also, how come the NS4G Port to Epic didn't work? Aren't we mostly the same phones?
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
The ns4g port had terrible graphics problems...and ahmgsk is selling his epic. He will help as much as he can until that happens.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Okay, what about the quotes I posted? Do you think that if we just modified the build.prop and still used the CM7 Kernel (or whatever works), that it could be better? Sucks about ahmgsk. I really thought that he'd keep us up-to-date with Miui.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
@asdfghjkl

Where do you see that he's selling it? It says he's buying an EVO 3D at twitter though. But since then, he says he's made his own Kernel and ROM for 1.3.5, which we already have, but he never posted it anyway.
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
Gtalk lol I hope he isn't mad at me for saying that...but yea, he will be helping as much as he can. Hopefully he can get one to boot so we can weed out th bugs lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Hey if you guys needed a working cm7 kernel ask rodderik he compiled one a while ago but never released it. I've tested it for atleast 2 weeks on CM7 alpha ov/uv at some point in time and didn't give me any problems at all.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
How'd you get it and why don't you just post it? Also, why didn't he post it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Well I got it from rodd himself...lol. a while back. He was bored and just compiled one for the heck of it....dunno why he didn't post..but wouldn't hurt t holla at him aboot it. And as fly as rodd is ...I wouldn't post his work unless I got permission feel me
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Yeah. You're right. People shouldn't post other people's stuff w/o permission.
[Epic 4G Android Development] rulyskull:
Then ask hum :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Hopefully we will get over the hurdle soon enough. I shot a PM to Rodderik but most likely he would only want his kernel used if he knew it was going to work properly. Otherwise he would get a bunch of posts about what is wrong with his kernel. If I get an answer, I will pass it on to the developers but they may have already tried to contact him. Right now the ROM flashes properly, we are at the Samsung screen so I am sure it won't be much longer.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
What version are u guys trying?
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Here's what Rodderik said to me:

that was an old kernel i compiled for the heck of it...i havent updated nor supported it so that's why i never released it...i just compiled it for fun...i may update it at some point
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
When said that the Kernel causes no issues, does this mean that 3G, MMS, Camera, Video, etc.. all work? With no issue? And that this could be the key to CM7 and MIUI and stuff?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Trying to get 1.7.22 running.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Oooooo I see :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] qbking77:
Did you ever test my miui file?
[Epic 4G Android Development] raymond4:
I can test it if u want
[Epic 4G Android Development] rulyskull:
Same
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
Same. Where's the file?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Damn it seems like it wants to work...its right there. It flashes properly but that damn Sammy screen...sorry qbking...got caught away from home with no extra battery.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
[QUOTE=Original Android

The tester is only in a couple of people's hands right now. Once its booting and opening fully, the test base may get expanded if the devs choose to do so...be patient. It is definately being worked on.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
I was going to say that too..easy for me to say!..lol..but there is nothing to see except the flash process and the Samsung screen. Once we get past that point, then I could understand wanting to be in on the testing. I do have a feeling that they are getting close though...I am very optimistic as there seems to be some devs working together and bouncing ideas off one another which can only help the process.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Who's all working on this right now?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Asdfghjkl would have to answer that one but there seems to be a lot of interest in making this happen.
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
K goodnight.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Magic Oreo:
i hope this gets completed luvvvved the old one, although the bugs kept me from using it as a daily, miui is da shiz.
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
The people working on this are me and mike_77. Ahmgsk is also trying to get this to boot..So far I dont think any of us have had any luck lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
If you guys can make 3G as good on this rom as it is on stock/ Bamboozle, this'll be my daily ROM again. Also, did they ever add 4G to the current builds?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Fatonuseni:
Did anyone ever get an answer from toastcfh? Maybe he can help with the kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
I think Cyanogen said he'd help awhile ago if someone gave him an epic, or maybe it was Amon-Ra. I'm gonna tweet toastcfh and cyanogen.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Yeah, I have been impressed by the videos I have seen of Miui in action. If this kernel,(at least I think that's the issue here) gets solved, we should be good to go. When I see the "Miui" installing in Clockwork, I get excited but damn that Samsung screen..
[Epic 4G Android Development] nbunn:
I had the evo shift for a while.. And MIUI, wow. So great. Best battery life you could imagine
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ceelos09:
I'm willing to conntribute a couple bucks. How much money do we currently have in reguards to everyones donations so far?

There are a couple auctions going on right now with Epic's costing around $80-$100...but those are just auctions. I found a "buy it now" option for 2 Epic's. one goes for $125 http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Galaxy-...0825608761?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3cba6af239 and then there's a $135 http://cgi.ebay.com/SAMSUNG-EPIC-4G...0628147034?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item25662f035a they both have a bad ESN's tho. Dnt know if that would be an issue or not.
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
Potential donors:

omair2005 -$10

shiroimin -$10
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
When I get paid in a few days, I will donate a few bucks if its going to inspire another developer to do some work for our phone.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ceelos09:
Sign me up for a $10 donation as well. PM me the Paypal link once u have it up
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
I never said I was going to donate. I would if I had a job that payed more. What I meant from what I said earlier is tat since I'm 15, I don't have much income and can't really spend my money on this :(

Sorry, I'd love to donate, but I can't.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
It may not be the best form to put peoples' names on a Donation List until they have donated. A person could have an unforseen issue arise and not be able to follow through and/or could not have the means to donate ie xboxfanj who I know wants to see this happen badly and I am sure would help out if he could.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
If we can contact cyanogen or another dev who knows what they're doing, and somehow donate directly to them (paypal), count me in for $10.

Current Total : $40
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
My bad.. I misunderstood your post
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
No harm, no foul. Everyone here seems to have good intentions and wants to see this come to fruition.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
No problem. I see how you would've been confused.
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
New List:

omair2005 -$10

lynyrd65 - $10

shiroimin -$10

Ceelos09- $10

JohnCorleone -

Should I open a thread in general section? Idk the rules pertaining to this but i've seen other forums doing bounties all the time..

If yes then please let me know to which dev. we are going to donate. If multiple devs are desired then multiple epics would be needed which i can also state in the thread..
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
As I stated earlier. If a cynogen developer or miui devloper would come forth. Id donate an epic for science.
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
PM fusingblackrose in the miui.us forums...
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Yeah you should post in general, because more people'll see it and also since you aren't developing anything, it falls under general.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
I suggested a story on the front page about this (the bounty and everything). There's a thread in the Android Software Hacking General called "Who wants development." I already posted in it, but you guys should too. I did ask for help on the IRC and some prick said something like "You lazy assholes. Do it yourself." Also, I PMed fusingblackrose. I did it at miuiandroid.com
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
i pmd cyanogen.. any other devs of particular interest?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Art2Fly:
You guys should post in android general... not epic general.
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
well I wanted to post in epic general for the donations. Once we meet our goal and have a phone ready for a dev. I would likely post in Android General asking for willing devs.. sound good?
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Here's what fusingblackrose said

Good news: I've got time to help with this now. So, I'll be happy to try to develop an AOSP kernel.

Bad news: One, I'm pretty sure that me being 16 won't help in the way of getting me that phone, and also, I definitely don't want to take any money, i'm doing this for the community and not for profit Two, my kernel skills are lacking, but I'll do some serious brushing up on the subject. I'll tweet/post and let you know what i've got!
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
Wow, genuinely a good dude from just seeing that. That's good news to hear either way.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
He's working on it, but if you want to talk to him do it on twitter.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Fatonuseni:
Finally , some good news! Great work!
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
Alright here's a plan I came up with. We have a lot of Epic developers working on this, we messaged Cyanogen (not sure if anyone messaged Toastchf [which you probably should do]), but why don't also try to get some more Galaxy S Developers to help us. We got some people from the Fascinate, but why not someone from Team Whiskey, or someone from Phoenix? We all are Galaxy S users. We're like one big family and Samsung is our mommy. Sound good y'all?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
[QUOTE=Original Android

I like the idea
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ceelos09:
I like where this is going :)

(Off topic)

Finally, these threads continue to improve, and we're all coming together once again and have stopped with the useless bickering & flaming.

(On Topic)

So, now its a matter of convincing Devs to jump on board and help us. I'm kinda guessing we're gna need more than one device if we're gna get various Devs/Dev Teams involved in this.

(Wishful thinking)

Say we do get Cyanogen on board, you think that if enough of us politely ask SamsungJohn to see if Sammy will donate an Epic to our helping Devs (like they did with the SGSII) you think they'll actually listen? Might be just wishful thinking on my part, but its worth a shot.
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
Don't think so. The Samsung Within is probably launching soon, meaning an EOL for the Epic. They'd be much more interested in pushing their new device then trying to keep their old one alive.

Hey, somebody make a generic message about what we have done, what we are doing, and what we plan on doing development and device-wise to send to developers from other phones to come help us. Use good grammar, capital "I"'s and periods and question marks where they belong. The smarter you look, the more interested they are, and we need all the interest/assistance we can get.
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
[QUOTE=Original Android

I pm'ed tostcfh and he never answered... that was like 2 weeks ago :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
donation thread started!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1193486
[Epic 4G Android Development] xopher.hunter:
Trying miui on my og droid and holy balls its so refined and smoothed completely different experience I can't wait to see this on my epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
In the Sense 2.1 thread, ahmgsk said that he's gonna post a miui build soon. Also, if anyone has dev-ing experience, look at the files and try to make it work. Ahmgsk got Sense booting, but radio doesn't work yet.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
I'm just going to state this now so that if anything is to happen to my phone you know why haha. The minute they get the ril working I'm hopping over to Sense lmao.

Sent using TouchPal Curve Input
[Epic 4G Android Development] Schnadam:
I was told by framework in #miui that cm7 needs a stable build before miui gets developed due to the fact that miui is built of cm7... Is this true?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Art2Fly:
The kernels are similar, so if one gets done, the other can get done. IT all goes back to being AOSP kernels. CM7 is aosp, MIUI is aosp so they both are tied/
[Epic 4G Android Development] nbunn:
I just want to say, I downloaded the latest MIUI for my EVO Shift yesterday and installed it just to see it.. and wow. Wowowowowowowow. It was gorgeous. There were so many changes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] smojica:
I hope this rom is not dead because of the htc sense rom
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
Absolutely not, ahmgsk will have a very special gingerbread flavored treat for us "soon". ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Art2Fly:
Have some source with that?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Schnadam:
How soon is "soon"? :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
He said to not ask for eta. It will be release when he is done with it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Magic Oreo:
idc how soon, as long as i know its being worked on :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] lilmexx:
A gb version of this would be awesome.. I had seen where you posted it earlier, but figured i would wait a bit...

The swype is not a big deal, but if you get a chance... lol... No really, I can rock this slide it for now..

Does the GB version have similar issues with the in call volume and lag screen on incoming??
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Does this come with an overclockable kernel? Or is there one I can use for miui. I am seriously thinking about trying this just wondering about the kernel? Thanks guys!

Sent From My Evo Killer!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] goodelyfe:
there are a few kernel you can overclock with i blv
[Epic 4G Android Development] raymond4:
Everyone the forums over at miui is working again
[Epic 4G Android Development] goodelyfe:
**For some reason, probably because of root or asop issue? No overclock in the kernel im guessing so if you are using cpu tuner or the like, it wont do exactly what you want.

'Dual' Kernel:

-No overclock/root in the kernel?**

-3g works; may be a tad bit slow.

-no wifi tether support.

-Lags when music is playing.

-Theme Manager working.

[Kernel][ACS][GPL] Twilight Zone Kernel v1.1.0 - Hajime-kun :

-Extra buttery. might be the smoothest/snappiest kernel of them all.

-3g seems to be hit or miss. even on one device.

-wifi tether support.

-No lag when music is playing.

-Theme manager working

[KERNEL][GPL]Genocide EC05 Kernel v1.0|1.4GhzOC|Conf your own UV|VoodooMods 3/31/2011 -

-3g is borked...says its there but no connectivity.

-No lag when playing music (music sounds nice btw) .

-No wifi tether support (maybe do to the rooted kernel scenario?).

-Fast none the less....almost as fast/if not faster than twilight...we need it tweaked i guess for asop?

-Theme Manager working

-No overclock/root in kernel?**

[KERNEL][CM7] Phoenix v0.01 || Updated: 04/09/2011 - 11:45

-Bluetooth turns on, but needs work? static-y

-3g seems a little slow, but nixo has a fix for this im guessing. If 3g doesnt seem to work after a fresh flash, make a phone and see if that triggers it

-A little laggy when playing music?

-Wifi borked? :\

-Theme Manager works

-No wifi tether support

-No overclock/root in kernel?**
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Wow! This is the first time I have seen a breakdown on the features between the different kernels. Informative stuff. Thanks. Been waiting to try a Miui ROM. As on top of it you all seem..can't wait to give it a try
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
And the moral of that post: use Twilight Zone. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] darkierawr:
Haha. You'd like to think so! But after doing a full ODIN wipe and messing with it Twilight never got 3G for me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] goodelyfe:
yea as i said, 3g seems to be hit or miss.... had 3g earlier but flashing different roms, 3g is no longer working when i went back

wifi tethering to a computer/device triggers it sometimes though. idk??
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
If this is an actual AOSP-based build of MIUI, you're probably going to need an AOSP kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] goodelyfe:
^yes i figured

was kinda strange that they even worked.

most of all the kernels for the epic out there worked, but i just put up the few that i thought worked best and not so many borked things
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
I hear ya kOnane, my phone just plays too nice at 1.4.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Well, VisionKernel is one step away from Twilight Zone. It should be as smooth. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] goodelyfe:
yea VisionKernel is just about identical to Twilight

wifi tether support as well

3g seems borked though
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
That's why I asked that question. I didn't think any of the ec05 kernels worked with miui.

Sent From My Evo Killer!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Fortunately, I am in a 24/7 4g area. Didn't know some kernels supported Wifi Tether and others didn't...thanks for the heads up.
[Epic 4G Android Development] goodelyfe:
you know realize 4g isnt operational on asop as of yet right?

(miui & cm)
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
I think the EVO has 4G working now s I'm going to contact the devs and see if they can give advice...

So are you sure the twilight kernel doesn't kill phone or sms? I want to try it out now but I need those basic functions lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] goodelyfe:
yea evo has had 4g working for a minute now. i have an evo as well.

im not sure if the 4g chip is the same in our samsungs though (contact shinzul & toast)

and yea twilight kernel works. dont be scary lol.... flash it if ya dont blv me lol, you can always flash back over. Im on genocide now...probably gonna flash something else
[Epic 4G Android Development] asdfghjkl:
Lmao yea I was worried there but it works :D I think I will start working around this kernel lol but GB build will either need an aosp kernel made by us or just borrow CM7 for now lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
Has anyone tried communicating with any other devs that have worked on MIUI for other phones? We need all the help we can get
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
Yep. Some: no response

Fusingblackrose: Trying

jt1134: Said he'd help if we asked him questions.

Both Fascinate devs.

If we're still doing the donation thing, we should donate to jt1134, he'd be more than willing to help and got miui and CM7 on fascinate so could probably do the same for Epic.

Also, did Ahmgsk ever mention that it's a gb build? I didn't think he specified gb or froyo
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
He said its going to gb
[Epic 4G Android Development] HeartGold95:
Have you guys tried asking some other miui developers like say for the captivate or vibrant?