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[Streak 5 General] carhigh:
I use streak LED and yes, missed sms or mms lights the leds to my settings, but there are no missed call or voice mail leds because streak led doesnt do that. 2.2.2 also does not do that. Im back on 2.2, but just downgraded from 2.2.2 last night and used 2.2.2 for a couple days and i did not get any leds for missed call or voice mail. you might want to check again with a missed call or voice mail and notice there are no notifacations
[Streak 5 General] nthknd:
Try noled in the market kinda works like the other program except it puts a icon on your screen
[Fascinate General] Scrappy1:
I've been investigating how to get rid of that pesky background idle battery drain on 2.2. The biggest improvement I've found is from disabling Google location services. With this disabled, my background drain is about 1% per hour. Enabled I see 4-8% per hour. This drain mainly seems to kick in when not connected to wifi AP.

This observation holds true for stock ED01 and sc 2.9.2. GPS still seems to work reasonably well with Google location services disabled, bit it may impact you.

Let me know if anyone else sees the same. Thanks!
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
I always leave Google location services on and have NEVER lost 4-8% per hour

Doubtful that it would do that
[Fascinate General] bleeeeeeek:
I can't recall losing that much either.. *shrugs*
[Fascinate General] chrisp304:
Wouldn't and doesn't make any diff.
[Fascinate General] Scrappy1:
Lots of people have commented on worse battery life with froyo. If you're one of those, and its idle drain, then try this out.

If not, mind your own buisness. It definately makes a difference for me. Tested / confirmed multiple times!
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
Google Location Services does not do anything on its own, until an applications calls for it.

Disabling Google Location Services is like draining your gas tank because it has a hole in it.

Sure, it won't leak anymore, but not only can you not use it, you also will have the problem the next time you fill up.

Fix the problem, don't hide it, imo. You have an app thats draining you if turning off Google LBS fixes your issue.
[Fascinate General] bleeeeeeek:
Ohhhhh.. In yo face @op
[Fascinate General] anoninja118:
I get about 4%/hr battery loss regardless *shrugs* its acceptable for me...

Tapatalked from my rooted/rom'd/themed Fascinate snacking on FROYO
[Fascinate General] Scrappy1:
A constructive comment! Thank you. Before disabling Google location services on stock ED01, I killed every background service that would stay killed, and turned off all widgets and updates. I still had the high idle drain. If what you say is true, it appears there is something systemic in stock 2.2 ROMS abusing Google location services.

Watching cpu usage over time with system pannel and battery state didn't show any suspicious usage.

When using sc 2.9.2, I'm fairly certain the idle drain / location services is only an issue when Google latitude is enabled.
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
This certainly can't be indicative of ed01 roms or everyone would be screaming to high hell about it...I leave Google location services on all the time and am completely fine battery wise
[Fascinate General] jazzyjames:
Sounds like you have a app installed that is using the Google Location service installed, sounds like you need to a factory reset and run a day or so with no apps installed, right now I am running on stock self debloated ED01, and I always have GPS and Google location services turned on, and I have gotten the best battery life I have ever seen on this phone. Not sure if you use Google Latitude, but I have seen that cause some drain on phones.

Its one of the big double edged swords of Android, the ability to have true multitasking can really hinder your battery and this is proof, especially when it comes to a service like Google location services.
[Fascinate General] heffzilla:
Just a thought, maybe if you quit checking your battery usage so much, it might get better.
[Fascinate General] MattRussNC:
Come on now, dudes having a problem and trying to help. Just because he is wrong doesn't mean the thread has to go this direction. Instead perhaps it can be used top help him find the true cause, aswell as any one else with similar findings.

Oh and only quoted you cause I thought it was pretty damn funny.
[Fascinate General] Scrappy1:
After more testing, I have some interresting findings.

The idle drain I described earlier along with dependence on Google location services holds true while I'm at work. This is a location where I get 0-1 bars of cell signal, and android reports about 60% time without signal. When I'm at home and in good signal area, I can leave Google location services on all the time without high idle drain. Now I know why most people weren't agreeing with my observation.

Now then, to the root of my problem when I'm at work. I know everyone says Google location services is mostly passive and only consumes power when an app is polling for location. However, I'm starting to wonder if this is true for the cell tower portion of location services. Could android be doing some extra background tracking of towers when location services enabled? Or could the phone radio be put in a more aggressive "find a freeking tower at all costs" mode? My experiments at low signal level would seem to suggest so.

Anyone with info or similar test results please let me know. Thanks!
[Fascinate General] mkzbdroid:
maybe if you stopped checking xda so much our threads may get better...just a thought.
[Fascinate General] KitsuneKnight:
Do you have a WiFi connection when at work (and it setup!), or are you using 3G only? If so, that could be your cause. Google Location Services periodically does send data to Google (read the agreement!), so if it's trying to send off data when you've got pretty much no connection, it could very well explain why it'd be causing such a huge drain on your battery (causing the radio to power up to full power, and continually fail to send your location data off, forcing retries).
[Fascinate General] jt1134:
This.
[Fascinate General] Scrappy1:
Yea, I suppose that's possible. I don't have a wifi connection at work currently. At home I do have wifi, but my wifi sleep policy is set for screen off. To test I did disable wifi alltogether at both home and work, and it doesn't change my idle drain issue. The theory that Google location services is desperately trying to send data over a partially working cell connection does make some sense.
[Fascinate General] garywojdan81:
What I've found so far with ed01 froyo has been vastly improved in most regards including battery. My idle drain is almost nonexistant with the comm.rom 1.2 & nemesis' 1.3 kernel with uv/oc to 1.3ghz. It only eats battery when I'm actively using it & there it is more aggressive than eclair depending on what I'm doing. I have google services & standalone gps always on & never use wifi only 3g and easily get 16+ hrs on a charge.
[Fascinate General] jabberjaw:
After upgrading to Evilfascinate 3.x, I found if I left my WiFi on and my 3g my battery would barely make it through the day... Now I only turn them on when needed and I am running a couple of days before I put it back on the Charger...

I have done the same with GPS, only turn it on when I need to know where I am or where I am heading...
[Fascinate General] joe_knowitall:
Battery does not last all day.

Should my battery last all day. I have to keep it charged constantly. I do not have gps, vzw, or google location services on.
[Fascinate General] soba49:
Ballpark, if you get 4.5 hours of display-on time, expect 6-12 hours of total charge. If you have an hour or less of display use, expect a day and hope for more. I can't be more specific than that because I haven't watched closely for a while.

Having a good strong data signal, be it wifi or 3G, switching to an SV or UV kernel (which works varies pet individual), the apps you use, and of course call time can all make a big difference in my experience.
[Fascinate General] AlexDeGruven:
To elaborate on this:

If you're rooted (If not, why are you here? :) ), grab connect bot from the market, connect locally, and then su yourself to become root.

As root, execute 'dumpsys power'. If you see one entry in mLocks (should be 'keep screen on, etc', then you're good, as that lock will go away once you turn off the screen.

Many other times, you will see 'Google Location Provider' or something similar as well holding the wake lock. If that's the case, some people have found that simply firing up GMaps and obtaining a GPS location lock is enough to release the wake lock.

Other locks will require you to look at the names and see what app(s) could be creating the wake lock.

A wake lock is simply a software flag in memory that tells the phone whether it's allowed to go to sleep when it idles or not. If mLocks > 1, then the phone will not sleep, even with the display off, which is what murders your battery.

Additionally, you can use the 'dumpsys power' command through adb, which will allow you to watch the phone actually go to sleep.

You can also use the 'top' command to look at how much CPU any particular processes are using.

'top -m 5 -n 5' will run 5 times, showing you the top 5 CPU usage at the time it runs. If you want more processes (you typically won't), increase the -m number. If you want it to run more iterations, increase the -n.

You can watch the phone go to sleep via top, as all processes other than top itself will flip to 0-2%. At this point, the phone is essentially asleep except for the core processes to keep it from shutting down.

If you see any processes that continually sit in the 7-15% range in top, even with screen off, then that app is causing an issue. DL30 and EB01 ROMs would have problems for me where /system/bin/sensorserver_yamaha (the process that monitors the accelerometers, etc) would continually sit at 12%, regardless of the phone's state. Once EC01 and ED01 came around, that problem went away for me.

So anyway... Those are some things you can do to help track down your draining issue. Under DL30 and EB01, I tended to run about 9-15%/hour, which is why I went back to DL09 until the official ROMs dropped. YMMV, of course.
[Fascinate General] mod143:
my battery isnt too bad, but one thing i was wondering, is when you have widgets or apps "auto update" lets say every hour, its that on the hour? say my phone is asleep, and wakes up on the hour and updates everything at once, then goes back to sleep. that would seem logical. or does it wake up at 2:00 to update email, then 2:20 to update my weather widget, and so on? that seems like it would prevent the phone from sleeping as much
[Fascinate General] Scrappy1:
Thanks man, this is useful.
[Fascinate General] redrol:
AMAZING post. Thank you very much indeed. I just figured out my battery problems finally.
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
Instead of just getting 5 spaced out snapshots of cpu usage. You guys might wanna try using an app called OSMonitor from the market. It offers a real time display of all running processes and cpu usage.

Some quick settings: Open app menu/options and scroll down to "Process" section. Be sure that "hide system process" is checked (or you'll end up a really long list of things that you don't need to see). In "Sort by" choose load and also check "Order" so that items that indicate cpu usage appear at the top of the list. Once that is done just sit back and see who keeps sucking the cpu excessively.

good day.
[Fascinate General] redrol:
Thats a great tip too. The previous one helps with sleep issues seeing as how you can't see the screen when the phone is off. Still, great tips.
[Fascinate General] 420fan:
So I have /system/bin/sendorserver_yamaha eating up 12% when I do the top. How do I fix this, becuase I have to keep charging my battery constantly.

Thanks for the heads up!!
[Fascinate General] AlexDeGruven:
If it does it even with the screen off, and there's no other locks showing in dumpsys_power, then you might want to try turning GPS off and on again, and auto-rotation off and on again.

If it's running 12% CPU while the phone is actually running (screen on, other processes, etc), then that's normal.

It's a problem if sensorserver_yamaha continues to hit that much CPU while the rest of the phone is idle.
[Fascinate General] 420fan:
thanks a LOT! I will play with it a little later and see, im at work now, but what a great way to do some diagnosing.
[Fascinate General] skynet11:
Get a Honda instead (just kidding :))

@Scrappy: have you tried using a debloated ED01 ROM like the Community ROM or Evil Fascination?

@AlexDeGruven: would the adb commands you referred to work on Terminal Emulator?

Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
[Fascinate General] AlexDeGruven:
Yes, they should work in terminal or connect bot just fine. Just note that it will appears show one wake lock, since it keeps the screen on.
[Fascinate General] redrol:
after top'ing via adb shell, I killed off Launcher Pro, Calengoo, Spare Parts, Nuance Voice thing

I disabled location services except the GPS itself which is on.

I turned off Auto Rotate(also sucking my CPU all the time)

Going on 23 hours unplugged with 2.5 hours screen on time.

F'n amazing. Thank you so much for this thread.:)
[Fascinate General] dwrooted:
battery drain - much improved

After diligently checking this, I think VZW location for me was the item that caused battery drain.

I notice that my battery was draining when i was in low coverage area or when I was on the move.

Once I unchecked VZW location service (but keeping Google location service), battery life went from only 10 hour per charge during the work day to only 40% drain during a 12 hour work day. It still wasn't as good as the 25% drain before Froyo... if you guys have more tips, please do share!

I hope this will help some of the users out there!
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
Ok... This is my finding... If you want super battery life. Turn data off when your not using it.. Sure you won't get push notifications. But I have facebook send texts which still come through.. Several times throughout my work day I turn data on and check weather and such and let emails sync. And I listen to music over my head phones all day.. When I get home. About 10 after unplug, I'm usually at about 70% battery still and that's with 8 hours of music play and about a hour of screen on and web surfing with news and such... Its easy to pull the drop down and toggle data. And it gives super battery longevity...

Sent from my frozen yogurt filled fascinate
[Fascinate General] xHoLyx:
Really? No offense, but I don't get how you only lose 30 after 8hrs of music + 1hr of web surfing? 1% per 1hr idle for 10 hrs that leaves us @ 90%. 1hr of web surf(3g/wifi+screen) + 8hrs(non idle/screen on and off.) = 20%??
[Fascinate General] OhioYJ:
Disable auto-rotate and that will go away completely.
[Fascinate General] Kaze105:
Gotta agree here Listening to music for just a few minutes decreases my battery by 1 percent. Do the math, and there is almost no way you would have 70% left after 8 hrs of music.
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
I will post a screen shot from home later.. Won't let me from phone.. 17 hours and 49 % battery and that's after a work day with music

Sent from my frozen yogurt filled fascinate
[Fascinate General] streebs87:
I was having this same problem. The one thing I did fix was my email. If you are using the stock email, go into your settings and check how frequently it's updating. Mine was set at every 15 minutes. I changed it to every 4 hours. Believe it or not it did make a difference.
[Fascinate General] AuroEdge:
This is an issue that needs to be tested in a virgin ROM on your handset. Otherwise you are not using a controlled environment i.e. your results are not conclusive
[Fascinate General] Scrappy1:
Thanks for this... it's starting to look like VZW location services is impacting me, again in very poor 3g signal areas.

I first thought I had my idle drain problem licked with Google location services off. And this did seem to be the case for a while, but recently I started creaping up to 3-4% battery loss per hour with screen off and all widgets and updates killed. Then I flipped off VZW location services and boom, next 4 hours my battery % just flatlined and didn't loose a thing. Very dramatic. This is at work where my time without signal is typically > 60 %.

I'll redo the test tomorrow, and look for Google location services impact vs. VZW location services.
[Fascinate General] laureanop:
I've turned off google and vzw location services leaving only standalone gps services on and the difference in idle battery life is dramatic, especially in bad reception areas. This plus lowering the voltage at the 100,200 and 400 CPU steps has significantly improved my battery life
[Fascinate General] nunyazz:
What is your "Time without signal"? If you are in a 'bad' signal area, that will kill your battery no matter what you are/not running.
[Fascinate General] laureanop:
Hard to get an accurate number cause I'm in and out of wi-fi throughout the day. I work in an area that has various degrees of signal strength, from excellent to none. Before turning off GLS and VZW LS I would drop 3-4% per hour; after the drop is only 1%. In an 8 hour shift its almost a 25% diff in battery life. Also my deep sleep state CPU % has gone up by like 30% with roughly the same use
[Optimus One, P500, V General] avneeshp500:
i read thee post which guided to cook roms so i decided to cook my own rom. but when i started to do so.

it gave me the error *gcc: command not found* i have installed cygwin according to the instructions given. can u tell me what could be wrong :O
[Optimus One, P500, V General] shhbz:
u can get info here http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/26/ho...om-for-android-part-1-setting-up-the-kitchen/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=633246

http://theunlockr.com/2010/04/15/ho...m-for-android-part-2-creating-your-first-rom/
[Optimus One, P500, V General] avneeshp500:
thanx buddy bt cudnt work it out .. i guess im just meant to try out the roms u guyz build :D

anyway.. can somebody PLEASE help me build a rom. !
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
:confused:Anyone use POWER MANAGER V1.6.1???:confused:

I used this app since I had the G1. I was at work for 8 hours. This is what I did, light web use, text messages, watched a video and a mp3 and phone was at 80% on my way home.:eek::eek::eek:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
UPDATE!!!

UPDATE!!!

Been using this for a few days now and I notice a big diffrence in battery life.

When not using the phone I use the low battery setting and phone seems to run forever.

I also noticed it saves more battery on the GX2 than G1. :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheUnknowing:
So I've seen other people that have this problem but the difference is usually they get the message when opening this or that, while I get the message constantly. As is, if I force close it, it pops right back up again leaving me no time to actually do anything on my phone.

Any help would be appreciated, I have CM7 installed and this just happened after a reboot.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Did you flash the latest gapps when you flashed CM7?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheUnknowing:
Yeah, and CM7 had been working great up till this point. Now it says I have no service and I can't do much of anything.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobirch2:
Did you flash anything without wiping data? if you did you might have to wipe data. Before you do that try to fix permissions in rom manager and clear the data for the phone app. If those things dont work wipe data. If a data wipe doesnt work you have a problem with the ROM you flashed. If its a nightly you should either flash a different nightly or flash the stable.

As for the service you can try to flash a new radio. If that doesnt work i recommend going back to a sense rom updating your profile, and then your PRL. I wouldnt imagine the radio is the problem, because ROM's shouldnt normally include radio files, but you might as well try to flash the newest radio anyways. Newest radio is 2.15.00.11.19.

flashing a new radio, updating your prl, and updating your profile are about the only things you can do to help your service. updating prl and profile can only be done on sense roms through settings, because those involve sprint code, which is not made public.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheUnknowing:
Update: I'm not sure how to do most of the things you mentioned but my radio is up to date. I discovered that this problem only occurs after I reboot the phone. It flashes fine, works normally, but once I reboot it the problem starts up.
[HD2 General] Darklink88:
Hello guys,

My HD2 was fallen on his screen yesterday. He seems to be in good state but it is just in aspect, the screen don't display anything except white strips and, the touch ability seems not working at all (When I press to do a slide to unlock nothing happens => no vibrations). In the right hand corner, the lcd screen seems to be a little broke.

You could see the problem at this link: http ://img25.imageshack.us/i/imgp0001by.jpg/

Do you have any ideas of causes of this? I have to change lcd screeen and capacitive screen? And it is possible to do it of my own?

Thanks for your answers and if you have any tutorials or other help, I'm grateful.
[HD2 General] Theonew:
The cause is obviously it being dropped. Yes you have to change your screen if you don't want to have a broken one and may have to get a new digitizer. I don't know you so I don't know if you have the skill to do this yourself. If you have a warranty then carry it back so they can fix it, if not (or that's not covered under it), take it to a cell phone repair shop. They should have the equipment to fix it (digitizer, lcd, etc..) and you can pay for the service and equipment there.Hope this helps.:)
[HD2 General] Darklink88:
Thanx a lot theonew I try to see that quickly!

Do you have some reference on the web to get this components? A serious website selling this both components?
[HD2 General] Theonew:
You could go here: http://www.dinodirect.com/htc-hd2-t-mobile-touch-screen.html and here for lcd (with tools for installation is optional): http://www.smartphonebay.net/LCD-Screen-for-HTC-HD2-p/lcdp-htct8585.htm. I could not find both on one website. Anyways, I hope you can fix your phone.:)
[HD2 General] Darklink88:
Ok, to fix my phone it's 200 euros, I'd like to try to fix it on my own and now I'm at this point: http: //img835.imageshack.us/i/imgp0001c.jpg/ and this http: //img59.imageshack.us/i/imgp0002le.jpg/

(Thx to official disassembling video)

Someone have a tips to separate screen from digitizer??
[HD2 General] pvii:
Well, You always can buy LCD and digitizer from eBay, taken apart or already assembled LCM (about 80-120$ for digitizer+LCD module). You have to be careful which model you buying if you decided to buy LCD and touch apart, both must be for European version of HD2. LCM assembly are compatible for any model of HD2 LEO, I've tested both T-Mobile and EU at my EU version of HD2 and they worked very good.

Separating the digitizer is not a easy job, most cases you have two broken pieces in result, but if you still want to separate them, first thing to do is to heat them to about 60*C (Celsius degree), then separate digitizer from LCD with a sharp-edge thin plastic sheet, i.e. a credit card with sharpened edge. LCD and digitizer are sticked together with a kind of black double-sided scotch tape, it is easy to see it but it is very easy to damage digitizer during this process due to very thin Indium Oxide wires on it that is easy to scratch.

The best thing is to buy fully assembled new LCM and simply replace your old LCM. In addition You nave to remove old LCM adhesive from phone housing to assure proper alignment of your new LCM. It can be removed with ethanol or isopropanol (take a cloth, wet it well with same alcohol and gently rub the grued surface until it will be clean).

Here are the Official HTC HD2 Disassembly/Assembly Training Videos but there all components are new and unused.