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[Eee Pad Transformer General] dfin13:
Yeah, it's a minor inconvenience to have to run that app to load stuff via OS X, but I'm actually tickled that I no longer have to unmount my device to access what I just transferred over (great when testing which movie files work).
[Eee Pad Transformer General] peakaboohaha:
the funny part is that MAC OS is part of linux Debian.... lol
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
Not sure what you mean by this, but OS/X is based on BSD not any Linux flavour.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] paulhenta:
I really want to love my transformer

Like all of you, i have received my transformer after fighting to get one with the dock. First impressions were amazing -top notch hardware, really good looking dock, perfect screen and weight ratio for me, i am 6"3 with big hands.

however after using intensively for a bit more than a week now. I am starting to understand what people like in the ipad.

Like many have fairly acknowledged,we are beta testing Honeycomb - it is a an unstable piece of s. of software. excuse my french. I have stopped counting what does not work or is not yet available. XDA app, i found three ways to make it crash by doing basic things, skype, dont even get me started and the list is long.

I am really mad after google for doing all the possible mistake in term of software development by having, what 3 different OS??? and not one of them is good enough to be release to the public and they did it anyway:

- chrome OS --> beta level

- gingerbread --> rc level

- honeycomb --> alpha level

believe me i am not an apple fanboy but i give them that at least their ios works even with all the limitation that made me buy the asus.

so google please focus on whats important an asus please upgrade my transformer as soon as a stable os woul have been released
[Eee Pad Transformer General] PaulGG:
Try movie stream and tv shows stream from the market, I use them all the time on my desire HD have a transformer on order and would be interested to know how they perform on a larger screen and if they are compatable with honeycomb.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] levenite:
Youtube is better because ipad doesn't use flash. I have a quad core 3Ghz desktop running Ubuntu and flash is still crap! But I can use third party apps to bypass flash and play flash video very well. I have also read that ipad has such a smooth UI because when scrolling, other tasks are suspended. Don't know if that is true though.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] levenite:
Do yourself a favor and read a good review/comparison before deciding. Note this is about ipad vs xoom so the hardware differs but it will still give a good honeycomb vs ios comparison. Also consider that Honeycomb 3.1 has improved things even more.

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Apple-iPad-2-vs-Motorola-XOOM_id2688
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Kilmar:
I have both the iPad and TF but only carry the TF. 'Nuff said.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] proplayer44:
I own an Iphone and love it but because I own an Iphone I know I want a transformer and not an Ipad as a tablet and here is why.

1. I hate iTunes, I hate I'm forced to use it to transfer everything. I hate that it screws up often. I hate that it wants to sync all sorts of stuff when I just want to move a song over (if its been a while since last sync). I hate that my device is tied to one PC to move the stuff in itunes. What if I want to connect it to my friends device to get this or that, opps no got to move it to my PC first. But my PC is at home. Too bad.

Now I know you can actually set it up to sync with multiple PCs but that is a recipe for disaster for most non techies. I mean how can the OS be so simple and easy and make the customer experience so delightful and then F it all up with iTunes being the most painful app imaginable.

2.Big Brother...Yes there are way more apps and ipad has more and they are better but but but, Apple being big brother has to approve the apps. Be a lucky one and get VLC before they removed it. WTF. I hate, hate, hate that point. There are so many better apps that could be out there if apple didn't need to approve them. If you are having a discussion about apps and how Apples' are better you must not forget to mention the big brother aspect.

3. Widgets. They are super cool and make the customer experience equal to or better than iOS. Again this is part of the big brother mentality (no widgets for iOS).

Apart from the whole " being in awe of Apple products" which totally bothers me how people eat it up. The above reasons for me at least make it a super easy choice. Oh and don't forget the extra $100 in my pocket.

Thanks

Martin
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Dan76:
What a great post, thanks for your input! ...you will Love the TF!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sways81:
I had a transformer but due to the light bleed issue I took it back. I haven't ordered another one yet as I am concerned about the build quality of the first batch so will give it a month or so to see how things develop. To be honest I have also been thinking of going with the Ipad2 instead just because it is a lot more stable and things do just work despite IOS having a closed ecosystem (partly why it works so well). Hopefully Apple's WWDC will showcase a much better more open tablet experience which might swing it for me. I do really like the idea of the transformer / honeycomb but I ofter found myself very frustrated with the crashes and inconstancy of the software which isn't good enough for a £380 purchase. I reckon it will be early next year before Honeycomb is in a good enough state in terms of stability and proper apps to bring me back. Maybe the Transformer 2 will be where it's at.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] bossxii:
If you can be honest with what you will really use a tablet for, it becomes an easy choice. Those looking for a entertainment device, games, movies, music etc... the iPad with it's massive app selection takes the cake easy. No your not tied to iTunes, there are options, anyone saying otherwise is just spewing ignorant fanboyism crap.

If you want a laptop replacement for work related items such as dealing with proper email attachments, true multitasking (downloading something in the background), full USB support, SD, Micro SD support etc... the Asus Transformer shines in that respect.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ryan stewart:
Just to bring up a few kind of counter points.

a. Yes, you are correct that right now the neighborhood is better for the ipad but that is totally negating that the same developer took another neighborhood, known as the Android Phone OS, and in a very short time turned it from a ghetto to the biggest game in town. So you are betting on someone who has done this thing before.

b. That is cool that schools and institutions like the ipad. They also exclusively used Apple IIes and most primary schools upgraded to Macs through the 90s. That kept Apple alive but didnt help them gain market share. The company was circling the drain until they got a transfusion from their former enemy, Microsoft. The enemy who came from behind to dominate the commercial space, which eventually made institutions change their tune because they are trying to prepare people for the future.

Most people's statements are pretty clear that Android for tablets is basically beta right now, yes we are taking bets that its going to dominate. Its a good bet too because I have had two Android phones so far. One was rudimentary and had no ecosystem (or app store in the beginning) and the second has more power, a bigger screen, faster connection and an ecosystem that rivals the iphone. All that was supported by my first phone, I just had an upgrade available and I took it.

The closed garden does niche products very well, allows you to tightly control the UX. The open garden will never have the same UX but it will get the market share.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ryan stewart:
Correction, the apps are beta testing. The OS is brand new, Google doesnt make Skype and Skype isnt built into the Android framework. That is like saying Windows 7 or OXS 10.5 is **** because legacy apps dont run well on them. The legacy app has to be updated to work with the APIs of the new OS, you dont move forward by building your OS around old apps.

Android is allowing you to run the legacy apps, there is nothing Google can to do to warranty the fitness of said 3rd party applications.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] paulhenta:
Ok, I finally have sold back my transformers and keyboard and got myself an Ipad 1 64gb for $299 at Verizon, was really lucky to get it at this price. I am sad because it is a beautiful tablet crippled by a bad software

I might jump on the next gen of android tablet (tegra 3) if the OS is worth it. I understand that geeks and nerds like to tweak their gagets. But I put the table as a limit. I want to be a be a reliable , quickly accessible companion.

e.g. ipad 1, one click on the iphone, free tethering, ipad automatically connect, got my news fix, can check my nas

e.g2: one click on the ipad,boom can airplay my music

I like the idea of providing an experience based on real life uses cases that do not require a phd, rooting session, and fine tuning.

I now even have the feeling that the windows 7 tablet if it has the same quality than the windows phone os will be better than android, webos is already better than android. Android is free so well adopted, good strategy to promote google services but wow, as a total experience it sucks. and dont give me the better multitasking, the widget - the ui is not consistent making the product not consistent.

What the heck is google doing with their mobile strategy, why do they have chrome os, ginger bread and honeycomb fighting vs each other... even acer has admitted that they have trouble adapting android on their 7"

ice cream sandwich sounds promising but is far away too.

a good strategy is to provide a controlled os that only a few geek will jailbreak and tweak to death but for the normal people they dont have to and it simply works. no need to go as far as having a closed ecosystem like apple.

dont let manufacturers tweak your os for a start.

apple approach goes to far,

windows and web os approach seem good

google approach is very bad, segmentation will ultimately kill the os.

so i will sideline and keep looking hoping t have innovations on the quality side that will make me change my mind but as of know. ANDROID = BIG NO NO
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jgermuga:
Good points, and there is reason to be skeptical about fragmentation, but Google is at least trying to combat it, so I expect things will get better.

If you look bak not too far in history, this same story played out in the PC market with Windows va Apply and the original Mac. I think the business model of providing software only to any hardware manufacturer will always lead to lower cost, higher market share, and lower quality / less consistent user experience.

Apple knows this, and has opted out of this model both in the past and going forward. There is no denying this has been extremly successful for them.

We should all be happy we have so many choices and I hope that continues, because for a long time, after MS won round one of the battle, there was very limited choice in the PC market.

Interesting that this time around, Apple has a lot of developers and a lot of choice in software on their side. That was one thing which made it hard to buy a mac while PCs ruled was the lack of choice in software.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mirumirai:
I just want to share a horrible experience I had putting photos from a computer onto an iPad 1. Added photos to the photo folder, chose the folder to sync, and tried to sync. Came up with a message telling me that all apps would be deleted. wtf? I cancelled. I looked on some forums and learned that everything has to be synced. Went for it, and 2GB of unwanted music was also synced, and 3 apps deleted. wtf again! It made no sense that 3 apps were deleted, not all or none.

Luckily, the photos synced, and they looked pretty good, even with iTunes compression (understandable, since photos can be very large). Multiple computers=multiple itunes=multiple issues. I decided I didn't want to deal with itunes anymore.

I looked into other methods of adding photos, specifically itunes replacements. None of the free ones had photo support - that was in the paid versions. A lot of forum posts recommended Photo Transfer, a $3 app, that probably would have worked, but wasn't ideal (used wifi, not over usb, cost $3). I wondered if I could access the directory structure directly and add photos to it - I used iFunBox and sharepod - no dice.

Why can't you add photos from anywhere? Why do you have to keep multiple copies of them synced? Why is using multiple computers with the iPad so convoluted?

Meanwhile, on the transformer, you just plug it into the computer, and copy over. Voila!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] tylerg:
USB host adaptor??

USB host adaptor for the TF tablet? What are you referring to, link me? How do I use USB on the Transformer without the keyboard, like you are saying??
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dfin13:
There's an image floating around of an adapter that plugs into the charging port that converts it into a USB port. Not sure when or if it'll ever be released, or how much it'll cost, but it was at least a concept at one point.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] tylerg:
stuttery web page scrolling and OS ver.

Just as an informational note for those saying their web browsers are stuttering while surfing the web in Honeycomb.

You can turn off flash in your settings, directly from the quick link in your browser. This is 1 major reason that Android (multi-tabbed) websurfing kills iOS. You have a "choice" to use flash, or shut it down - either way, it's a quick switch on/off and you'll notice the skips go away. But don't "force" me to not use Flash, I'd rather have the option to watch Flash content if I choose (and no Flash is not just for "ads", many web pages use flash for video and other content).

My take on iPad2 vs. the TF. If you want a very limited, but smooth OS, and a nice form factor / light tablet, go with the iPad2. If you want a productive / practical tablet, that you can customize until you are blue in the face, go with the TF. Honeycomb is beta, but even the beta version IMO strikes down iOS with a very heavy bat. I want a living OS, with live feeds right on my desktop (tabtop), not a big 4:3 app. launcher!

I'm sure there's others that will disagree with MY choise of OS, but just watch. iPad3 will have better cameras, and a higher resolution (like ALL Android tabs currently). And if Apple is smart, the screen size will also widen and thin up, like Android tabs. This is because Media (which most use their tab for 80% of the time) is widescreen, like TVs, not old 4:3 picturebox.

For those that want a good unbias comparison between the Transformer and iPad2, just do a search for "ipad2 vs. transformer" review on YouTube from "Technobuffalo". He's a bit of a dork, but does a really good comparison and points out strengths and weeknesses of both tabs.

(I'm not affilated with TechnoBuffalo in any way, I just saw his video, and was impressed with his comparison)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Nascar Dog:
Install the Honeycomb 3.1 update to greatly improve web browser performance.

Very noticeable improvement. :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] tylerg:
movies and music

IMO movies and music are better on high rez Android tabs. Not to mention I don't have to go through any headaches trying to convert movie types. Not to mention; straight copy from pc to tab. I download tons of movies and music and have never had to convert anything, to play it on my Android tab.:D

So it's not only a work horse (laptop replacement), but it also rocks for media!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] downwiththebanksters:
Looking at the thread as a whole, it definitely shows the beginning of the end of apple's dominance of mindshare. What is most amazing is how fast Android has caught up and passed apple. I think we all know it is because of the openness. Yes some fragmentation occurs, but when you turn that on it's head you see innovation and creativity. No matter what apple does it is fighting physics at this point. All it has is adoring fanboys who can flick a screen microseconds faster and oooooo smooooooother (psst...do you know what a smoothboy is in Asia?), and a bought and paid for media (paid for by a commitment to iTunes, proprietary connectors, all to fulfill a Faustian promise to make sharing difficult). It will always have a sizable market share, and be a player, but I just hope that apple launches/apple explosions/Jobs' colon stop being breathless 40 point above the fold headlines for weeks on end. That might give sheeple more time to notice other things (on their rooted honeycomb tablets!!!)that are going on!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] leonpr:
Quoting from the 1st page but this really got to me... How is this a pro? I mean your basically saying "a huge amount of websites dont work but don't worry you can go out of you way to download a seperate app just to check the news"

Great that the app support is there if its something you follow but as your just browsing around on the net looking at info this is the last thing you want.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] checkbox111:
We have four in the office none have any issues

No light bleed

No build quality issues

No keyboard issues

No speaker issues

The only issue i've had is going through and ID3 tagging all my album art because my music got all mixed up, i never thought of selling it though :D

I'm getting so paranoid about this 'crap' that i think 98% of it is total BS posted by people who don't even own one! Maybe even ipadfanboys posting **** on here because of their sad little mundane lives, :rolleyes:

No you won't because thankfully most future owners don't visit here before they buy! they go to youtube or read many of the reviews giving it 4 and 5 out of 5 stars, and recommending it :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] johnhrschuster:
iTunes is not the end all for music and media management. In fact when it's a one vendor, one platform solution it's call handcuffs. Pretty shinny handcuffs but handcuffs all the same.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nmhusa:
Having now owned both, I would recommend the Asus over the Ipad2. The Asus has more video playback options, a better operating system and is not dependant on itunes. Just my 2 cents.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] h00ligan:
I just got a transformer, 36 hrs ago or so. It's a disaster.

10+ dead pixels, dust under the screen, massive bleeding

Sluggish responsiveness on anything. Sme kind of a resource leak with only stock apps loaded

Asus keyboard (soft) needs to be selected to use the dock, but it sucks as a soft keybord and introduces more lag

Flash quality is awful

Wifi is weak weak weak

No way to disable tap click and you will constantly mess yourself up typing on the dock unless disabling the touchpad.

I still believe this type of solution is the future for me, but as of now, I would urge people to stay well away until the platform and hardware matures.

The iPad has handcuffs, and doesn't offer a native dock..however, it beats the tf hands down in just about everything for now. I prefer android's ui, and look forward to getting a tf or similar when they have sorted out bugs. By the time that happens, there will be hardware revs, so I'm not paying to suffer for 6-12 months and be their beta tester.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] 4dthinker:
I have an iPad2. I have an Asus Transformer. I have the Acer Iconia A500. I bought the iPad first. They all stay charged and ready for any time I want to pick one up.

The one I pick up most often is the Asus Transformer. I also bought the keyboard dock for it, so any time I want to get alot of typing done I'll hitch the two. Any time I need a file off an SD card or USB thumb drive I'll hitch the two. Anytime I need the device to last a few days I'll bring both the keyboard and the tablet. No need to bring the charger.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] xformulax:
LOL.

So the transformer is terrible because you got a broken one? Try getting one that works and then report back.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] acid123:
For most members that's hard to believe, can you put some pictures up...

You shouldnt really put any device down from bad shipment,

My main big reason from moving from iPad 2 to the transformer was boredom,

I have had the iPad from launch day then iPad 2 from 2nd week of release date,

I find myself using my iPhone more then the iPad and after not using it for more then a week, I sold it to a mate and got the transformer,

New experience so loving it at the moment, the screen being high res is much better,
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Nascar Dog:
Same goes for me. I don't miss my iPad at all.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] h00ligan:
What images would you like to see? I don't currently have a macro setup, so it may be difficult to capture the dead pixels, but I can try. I guess youd like a screenshot of connection rate when two devices are side by side? Or would you then consider that unless it's vieo I spoofed the images?

I've already posted screen bleed issue screenshots and I believe I have the separation issue with the bezel as I can see a whit line that looks like unfinished product in the bottom bezel. Finally I have a minor creak as well..and I haven't done the sound test yet.

Maybe I'll setup a tripod and they to make a long video about all the issues for YouTube. Maybe that would make things easier to believe.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Canadoc:
Anyone with ipad did you have light bleed
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Nascar Dog:
Yes, my iPad 1 does and my iPad 2 did.

I fixed my iPad 2 by selling it. :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] iansykes:
Or if you must have Skype video - supposedly close to release for Android but working well on iPad2. Let's see now that Microshaft have bought it!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] h00ligan:
Yes butnot as bad as the transformer i oosted side by sidecomparison in the light bleed thread