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[Atrix 4G Android Development] drolgnir:
editing start-oshwt.sh

I would love to gedit my start-oshwt.sh, but I can't get any manager to load up because I tried to run a WM that segmantation faulted. so no webtop, I have get webtop the way I want it and kill it like 5 times! how to edit start-oshwt.sh outside of webtop? tried vi, nano, joe edit, permission problems out of this world. any clues? its been 3 hours and I could of just reinstalled webtop by now :) I need to know cause I will enter this situation again trying differnet panels and desktops... much thanks.

*I mean start-oshwt-2.sh of course*
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Djazin:
try editing it from root explorer XD its pretty simple
[Atrix 4G Android Development] amenditman:
Root Explorer is the tool.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] pederb:
Yea I got Thunar installed
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ltdanno360:
editing start oshwt 2 scripts

ok my stock oshwt 2 script looks like this;

# start OSHWT 2 scripts

sfavl -i "awn -autostart"

sfalv -i"webtop-panel"

sfalv -i"evbridge"

sfalv -i"window_switcher"

sr-avahi_start &

MY QUESTION IS SHOULD it LOOK LIKE

THIS WHEN IM DONE EDITING IT IN ROOT EXPLORER;

#start OSHWT 2 scripts

#sfalv -i"awn-autostart"

#sfalv -i"webtop-panel"

#sfalv -i"evbridge"

#sfalv -i"window_switcher"

#sfalv -i"xfce-panel"

sr-test avahi_start&

just lookin for some good advice. cuz im soo tired of redoing all of this just to get a cool desktop with right click menu and stuff

:confused:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dicksteele:
MY QUESTION IS SHOULD it LOOK LIKE

THIS WHEN IM DONE EDITING IT IN ROOT EXPLORER;

#start OSHWT 2 scripts

#sfalv -i"awn-autostart"

#sfalv -i"webtop-panel"

#sfalv -i"evbridge"

#sfalv -i"window_switcher"

#sfalv -i"xfce-panel"

sr-test avahi_start&

I used lxterminal within webtop and edited it with

sudo vi /usr/local/bin/start-oshwt-2.sh.

Backup original with sudo cp start-oshwt-2.sh start-oshwt-2.sh.bak

uncomment ( take out #) from xfce-panel, evbridge, and window-switcher

I kept in webtop-panel to keep toolbar on top. I also loaded xfdesktop. Example posted below.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16967149&postcount=52
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ltdanno360:
my desktop+ icons

i havnt edited owsh so i made a button for xfdesktop,xfce-panel and gimp im fixin to install a music: app/package i just forgot the name ohh! cool i didnt realize Uposted that ;i want to say thanks for all your help man this has drove me nuttzo finally got it tonight!!

:eek::eek::eek: i gona

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post mydesktop pick as soon As i figure this out
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Takenover83:
I love LXDE. So I might have to give that a spin. Anything extra I should install? (if you are still following this thread)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ltdanno360:
i used xfdesktop xfce-panel gimp rythmbox terminator(still working on it it is highly customizable even the transparancy so when u type in the terminal all u see is just the words on your screen no standard terminal "screen" its just cool lookin although lxterminal works perfect in fact thats how i installed all my packages because my synaptic doesnt acctually download or install anything but i can still use it to lookup a package and check whats installed yada yada EDIT;my newest install was java plugin inside firefox4.01

us-alienv4UL /OC1.3V2.0{webtop2sd(fixed}CWM5.0.2.3atrix4.1
[Atrix 4G Android Development] pederb:
How do you change the color of the icon text and it background color?

Cheers
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sinful Animosity:
I have no clue what to do to get xfce4 working. I just so a sudo apt-get install xfce4, edit the start-oshwt2.sh using gedit, comment out webtop panel and wallpaper, and put in xfce4-panel. After typing in startx, I just get a totally black screen and have to do webtop2sd and the process of webtop scripts all over again.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] drolgnir:
Startx never did the trick for me.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sinful Animosity:
So you just rebooted?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ltdanno360:
when u type startx it reboots the webtop to start a program and rub it simply ether make a button wirh the awn manager just give ir a name and a comment is just like xfce-panel click on were the icon goes apply an icon then hit ok co in the webtop panel you can start xf-desktop with one click
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sinful Animosity:
Ugh, no matter what I attempt, everything fails and gives me a black screen when I boot up next. There's no proper guide out there for this thing.

Okay. So I created an icon on the AWN dock, for xfdesktop4 and xfce4-panel. I clicked on them, and underneath the AWN dock, I saw the taskbar underneath it for xfce4. So I decided to go into gedit, and comment out the AWN dock following this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16967149&postcount=52

Only post I could find that gave me some sort of clue. I commented out the Wallpaper part, and Awn-autostart. I then type in startx to reboot WebTop so I could actually use it. It starts to boot up, and then I get a totally black screen. WTF is going on with this thing? I swear, as soon I get this thing working properly I'm going to write a tutorial for all the other slow people like myself.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rknight68:
so close

I followed the same post, trying to use LXDE (can't get xfce to install).

rebooted after the file mods, worked like a champ,

THEN I CLICKED ON THE ICON ON THE LOWER LEFT CORNER and everything disapeard and I was left with a black screen....but a reboot brought it back..
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stewartsoda:
I installed all of xfce using the following:

sudo apt-get install xfce4

Then I edited my start-oshwt-2 script to start "xfce4-session" and everything seems to be working swimmingly.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Rayan:
I fixed this problem by going to Settings/Xfce4 Settings Manager/Session and Startup and then under the Application Autostart I added and checkmarked Thunar. (see attached photo)

The next time I reboot the system I no longer see the Trash service error. However I did notice a considerable decrease in available memory.

Cheers!

Rayan
[Atrix 4G Android Development] pederb:
I don't have Thunar in there?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dB Zac:
you have to add it.

My qestion is, what did you put in the command line
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rcicu:
nvm didnt work
[Atrix 4G Android Development] :
I made sure that I have Thunar installed and I got xfce4-panel and xfdesktop running but I still get the error. So I right click on desktop, go under settings and I don't see Xfce4 Settings Manager.

I installed Xfce4 Settings Manager and when I open the Settings Manager Window, I don't see Session and Startup.

Do I have to install xfce4-session package as well?

Yes, I had to install xfce4-session after that.

Once I was done with all, I could see Session and Startup under Xfce4 Settings Manager.

All I had to do was add Thunar in there.

Click Add-> Name is something, put description and command is thunar.

Once I did all that, I restarted my phone by putting lapdock to sleep, undock phone and reset....I don't get the error but every time webtop starts, Thunar starts with it and looks at me funny.

Is that normal? :)

---------- Post added at 09:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 AM ----------

Look at my post above, I put thunar

Thanks.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] pederb:
I'm getting an error message when trying to install Xfce4 via Synaptic

Please advise

Cheers
[Atrix 4G Android Development] vanlon:
Edit: Sorry I should have searched a little harder first. Found my answer.

So I have all this working fine, thanks for your hard work. My question is, when I switch to a new ROM do I have to reinstall all of this webtop stuff or is there a way to attach the new ROM to the Xfce weptop that I already have working splendidly?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] outofoffice:
is there any disadvatage to running the webtop dock and the xfce4 task bar toggether? The webtop dock had some easy to use icons to launch stuff, including entertainment centre and i havent found an easy way to create a quick launch style icon in xfce4 desktop.

i also assume that you just remove te comment from the webtop-panel line?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MadSage:
The dual-form nature of this item would fit a dual-boot scenario perfectly. Boot into Android when used as a tablet, boot into Ubuntu when docked. Just curious as to the possibility of this.

As far as I know, Ubuntu supports ARM architecture, so the Tegra 2 chip should work well with it. I'm not familiar with the touch screen driver support in Ubuntu, but I remember when I modded my old EeePC netbook with a touch screen, I was able to install third party touch screen drivers without any problem. Then again, even if the touchscreen won't work, when docked it has the mouse and keyboard anyway.

Are there any devs working on this, or know what the feasibility of such an endeavor would be?

Thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PGibbons999:
Let me know when I can dual boot into Linux Mint.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lostsoulktash:
I'm wondering if the webtop from atrix can be ported to work here.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MadSage:
Linux Mint is based off of Ubuntu, so if you can get one working, you can get the other. However, vanilla Ubuntu has three times the user base, so I feel that would be the best bet, considering the much larger community support.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r34p3rex:
Definitely should be a project someone works on :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nurre:
Should be very easy to boot ubuntu alongside android. Got a lot of spare ram on these systems.

This of course means running ubuntu with a vnc server, and connecting to localhost. Which is far from optimal. But it works atleast. That's what I plan to do when I get the tablet.

Hell with wireless adb there's a decent chance I'll be able to run up eclipse and build apps directly to and from the tablet ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZaelFaroe:
Not unless we get an ARM SDK. There is nothing I would like more than to be able to develop for my tablet on my tablet, but right now it is not possible, even with Ubuntu.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MadSage:
Ubuntu 11.04 was just released with the new Unity interface standardized. I'm not sure how well the Tegra 2 can handle it, but there's also Unity 2D, which looks great.

And the touchscreen interface looks lovely:

http://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/utouch/

I'm getting excited, I really hope we can get this working!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zach Alt:
This was already done on the Xoom I believe.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nurre:
A very good point :/, oh well. I can still do my normal development ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bedoig:
From what I understand, Eclipse is actually built entirely on Java. Is anyone aware of a full java environment for ARM Linux?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZaelFaroe:
The problem isn't eclipse being based on Java, the problem is the Android SDK plug-in (which specifies x86). It could be that you only need x86 for the emulator or for the USB drivers (I don't know), but it could also be something else where none of the plug-in will work on ARM. You could probably do development (write code), but you probably couldn't compile to apk or test at all. People on PPC Macs already have this issue. It appears that the source code for the SDK is publicly available so maybe we could get it working, but I think that might be more effort than it is worth at this point in time.

But this is getting off topic. We need Ubuntu (or other full linux distro) before the rest of this is even remotely possible.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EtherBoo:
They have Ubuntu working on some of the old Windows Mobile phones (check out the HTC Touch Pro 2 / Rhodium). Isn't that an ARM based CPU?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZaelFaroe:
Yes, Ubuntu should have no problem working on ARM. The only questions on Ubuntu are the drivers and bootloader.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nurre:
Getting linux up and running shouldn't be hard. It's done on most modern cell phones already. And the cut down versions are normally due to limitations in hardware.

The only part that sucks is the vnc localhost solution which is generally being deployed, it's not exactly optimal performance wise.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KitsuneKnight:
The best way to deal with this problem would probably to get X11 working with Android's graphics stack (mostly OpenGL) as a backend- sort of like Xephyr, or Wayland's embedding of X11 (basing the work on Wayland's work might be the easiest, since they already use OpenGL ES).

That should deliver near-native performance, with full hardware acceleration.

I'd think the best way to structure it would be to have an app you launch within Android that connects to the X11 server and just pushes the final image to the screen (akin to what Wayland does). That should make it reasonable practical to move between Android and Unity (/Gnome/KDE/etc) without too much weirdities.

---

For doing Android development on Android, until there's a native SDK, you could use X11's network transparency to be running Eclipse on a remote machine via SSH, using port forwarding to allow the remote machine to connect back over the tunnel for ADB. It's ugly, but it should work (assuming you have a network connection... and a working x11!).
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nurre:
Initially thought this would be a huge reverse enginering job, but look and behold : http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/news/linux-tegra-released ! :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danielrs:
Did anyone actually tried to run any Linux distro on it?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nordicfastware:
Is there any dev working on the question ?

Having a Android/Ubuntu tablet with an actual removable keyboard good me a huge advantage in terms of productivity/entertainment share... !!:D
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] archosfan:
+1 for that
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayhovah:
I imagine this will eventually happen... and I can't WAIT.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScottHW:
I'd be really interested in booting Ubuntu on a Transformer. I spent so much time tweaking my Desire to run CM6 (haven't even gon to CM7 yet) that Honeycomb just seems foreign.

If a tablet is going to be giving a totally different experience, I would just as soon have that be a full Linux distro.

Looking forward to hearing news about this!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoundSurfer:
check out youtube, there's a video showing Toshiba AC100 (Tegra 2) netbook running ubuntu... the first important step is to change the booloader..
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nttdemented:
Did anybody catch this? http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=163916
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yohanndesbois:
Hi there, im not developper but I know backtrack is giving an arm version of it's last release.

I also just watch a video showing backtrack and android with dualboot on a viewsonic gtablet.

After reading the detail on youtube I realized this was comming from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1075054 here ;)

Is there any smart and capable dev here who's able to release a similar bootloader for the transformer?

I cant help even in testing as I'll not by this tablet until I can have both linux and android on it.

thx for reading
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lunchbox115:
Look here: :) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1191141
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inifekt:
What about Chrome OS and Android?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverZero:
Have you used Chrome OS? I did CR-48 testing, and it just wasn't very impressive or useful. It's probably going to be deprecated/absorbed into Android anyway, there's just no market for it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jazux:
dual boot would be super awesome! if im right you need kernel devs to make dual boot possible... (at least thats the case with Samsung Galaxy 3) so would it help if some kernel dev looked into this
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmalo.nl:
I want to install ubuntu and use the dual boot.

i saw a dual boot method in the dev section, is this the best method atm?

also it sais it will remove all data.

anyone knows if its possible to backup and restore after the dual boot method?

and how to do this?

(cwm ? )

btw.

If any dev reads and can make a better dual boot ubuntu method, im willing to pay you for this work.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SwiftLegend:
Maybe we can use the Dualboot that uncorrupted (i think) released. Probably a good start. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-news/161867-boot-manager-androids-first-multi-boot-application.html
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inifekt:
Yeah I have a 48 as well. It wasn't that bad I guess, but still would have liked to try it on a tablet.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t2k269:
VNC Version is ubuntu is available

Samsung Galaxy S2 has already had a VNC version of ubuntu

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1223128

I have tried to run it in transformer, it works fine (everything with Wifi). You just need to modify the "/root/init.sh" to work with full screen in transformer. The resolution for tf101 is 1024x750 (800-50=750, 50 is for the bottom bar).
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Muchoaliento:
I think this has been done already.

Have you checked post #26 by Lunchbox ?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilstevie:
define "better"
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Muchoaliento:
Well, lilstevie is the brain behind porting Ubuntu to linux.

So maybe its better to ask him directly
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RoxXxoR:
unfortunately the rootfs link on his dev post doesnt work anymore? Anybody got a backup source or link?

Edit:

got it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17112116#post17112116
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spovik:
Using my G2x (stock camera app) to take some pictures in a semi low light environment. The lighting is at that point where it's just dark enough that the flash kicks in.

I find that the camera's low light capabilities leave a bit to be desired. I find that the flash generally nukes the subject even when I'm not at that close range, and that the images are very grainy, which I would expect be typical of a low-light shot.

Does anyone have any tips for how I could improve the quality, or are there any third party camera apps that you may have found helped?
[Atrix 4G General] yokozuna82:
In regards to web browser test like acid3 and html 5 ...the stock browser scored on both test lower then my wife iphone 4
[Atrix 4G General] maledyris:
Yeah, but who cares? The iPhone 4 can't do Flash :P

But if you really want to go by those tests, Opera Mobile does the best I think... It's really fast too. Second is probably Firefox, but it kind of sucks right now because it's still beta and can't do Flash. The other browsers such as Dolphin and Miren have cool features, but they can't beat Opera Mobile in terms of speed.
[Atrix 4G General] jimmer411:
Mirin is the best IMO.
[Atrix 4G General] dcarpenter85:
Some people see this as a good thing. Flash is awful.
[Atrix 4G General] lsxrx7:
Miren is the name
[Optimus One, P500, V General] japankobe:
this has been happening quite often now. half way thru the call conversation after i took the call the phone would cut the call out and start rebooting itself. i have changed the sd card to a fast card with big memory. is there any thing easy i can do to fix it? would resetting the phone help?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] shhbz:
r u sing a custom rom or a2sd or somthing it seems to be a prob wth the flash rom
[Optimus One, P500, V General] 4silvertooth:
Only if u are on stock rom.

Try this just remove your sdcard for one day and use ur phone. If it doesn't reboot than ur sdcard may be still b the culprit. If this doesn't solve ur problem shutdown ur phone press and hold volume down + home + power button. Ur phone will hard reset so all ur downloaded apps and contacts and msg everything will clear so better take backup of those.

I did that when I was on stock rom it solved my problem. Also check does ur button led flashes when phone restarts than some app which u have installed may cause that problem like call recorder or full screen caller id. U can uninstall them to check if it solves ur problem.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] japankobe:
u sure it's i the right order with vol down + home + power?

i got the power off/plan mode menu after i did that.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] japankobe:
I did the reset successfully. I didn't realized I need to turn the phone off first.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] 4silvertooth:
Did it solve your problem.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] sweettaniyaa:
Why do we have that issue with call recorder on stock ROM?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] 4silvertooth:
@sweettaniya

Well which call recorder do you use?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] sweettaniyaa:
I am not looking for a call recorder. Just a voice recorder which does both. I tried almost all of the popular ones on the market but the phone shuts down a lil while after the screen goes off. I finally found Andrecorder which didn't show that problem. But all the good ones with better features like Total recall, Ultimate recorder, etc did.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] shawnbuell:
Just wanted to let everyone who was curious know, n64oid runs so well on the transformer. I plugged it into my tv and played some mariokart and super smash brothers, and it ran flawlessly!
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] ssj4vegita2002:
What kind of control scheme? It'd be neat to turn the Transformer into a little Emulator hub that you can connect to a TV and use a wiimote with.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] thewooddogg:
I used the free wii mote program on the compatible apps sticky. It worked great. Just had to map the buttons and enable bluetooth controller in n64oid. Flawless victory.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] CoBrA2168:
Do you know if that lets you connect more than one at a time? I'm assuming that's not possible...
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] mirumirai:
I've been using the same setup with the wii remote app. Super smash bros runs almost flawlessly - just has some missing eyes on some of the characters. The free wiimote app does allow you to use more than one controller (and even the nunchuck), but n64oid doesn't have local multiplayer capabilities. I heard that local multiplayer should work on snesoid and some other emulators though.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] steftymo:
I'll second everything said above. N64oid and snesoid both work brilliantly with wiimote controller app. I am using a classic controller plugged into the wiimote and it is perfect. Played mario kart, zelda link to the past, super mario 64, spindizzy,zelda ocarina of time.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] tineras:
What version are you guys using? Mine runs some games okay and others are very broken. Also, it's still missing from the market, correct?
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] steftymo:
V. 1.1.2

Can't remember where I downloaded it from . It was off a link from another site. Try googling it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] Hungrylizard:
It's not just you or your version; most Roms don't work at all.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] wilbur-force:
I'm using v1.1.4 and the roms I've tried work well. especially with wiiremote :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] silenceforus:
the question now is where can we find the cheapest wiress old school controller. i havent got a wii so that leaves me with buying a new setup