yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azzledazzle:
i would recommend the SGS to anyone who is interested in modding it to get its full potential,

Kernels now supporting Overclocking of 1.54 Ghz - that is fast !!!

Many Many custom ROMs out there and tonnes of support.

highly customisable phone and i am happy with my device. very quick, no lag, nice on the eye .........

battery issue, This has greatly been improved.... many customs ROMs out there have reported very good battery life.

Of course there are a couple ROMs out there with not so good battery life, but this can be down to numerous things. The man one being the user .... light or heavy user ??? and the 'Experimental ROMs'
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
2.3.3 not released yet and devs and mods not built a fully finished product yet .

My stock 2.2.1 SGS was as good as HTC Desire and IPhone 4 and had no problems .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theduckking:
It's a great and fast phone. Just keep in mind that the SGS 2 should be out soon. I honestly have no idea when but I'd wait for it. Even if you don't buy the next generation the price of the I9000 should come down a bit.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mercedes-:
Hi,

My brother would like to use a custom rom. But he isn't technicsl at all, so i'm gonna help him with flashing. But i see too many custom roms available for the galaxy s.

Now i would like to know what custom rom you guys recommend us? I prefer a VERY stable rom which i can flash as one package using odin.

My brother currently is running on official froyo jpy.

Thx for your help ^^
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azzledazzle:
for a very stable custom ROM i suggest you head over to www.romkitchen.org

make your own ROM to your own liking,

all you will need to do prior to this is get 2e / CWM recovery, either through flashing a kernel / CF-Root through ODIN, or apply:update.zip through recovery

EDIT: romkitchen seems to be under maintenance try http://romkitchen.org/m/ instead :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Agree rom kitchen but not Gingerbread as its not ready yet .

Stable for me is .

XWJS8 rom with Hardcore kernel .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RobWilcox:
I would suggest trying the insanity ROM. Very easy to install, quick, and stable.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bess833:
Have to agree with JS8 + Hardcore kernel built by RomKitchen (see my sig).

I have tried almost every rom out there (including CM7, MIUI, JVB, etc) - they are all quite wonderful and each have their own pros and cons, but since I use my phone a lot (be it work or entertainment), I just need a ROM that has all the necessities (besides the obvious stability, performance, battery life etc) for me like Voodoo Sound, BLN, working 3D, working Navigation app and so on.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sir ahmed:
try juwi's rom..

it based om gingerbread 2.3.3 ..

perfect..
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] utsmaster18:
+1 soooo smooth and amazing battery
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lgsshedden:
If you are just new and not too technical then docs kitchen is best because the instructions are easy to follow and its the simplest. also check simply honey, good, ready instal l and get you up and running well
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] john.goo123:
Rom kitchen is the most stable Froyo ROM you can get. GB roms are currently unstable (including the stock GB rom as they've been recalled pending bugfixes)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prototype22:
darky's rom amazing
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rupeshn:
Darky's ROM & Juwe's ROM v4.1 are quite good.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Toss3:
+1, haven't run into any show stopping bugs yet.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rupeshn:
I have also used GoaTrip v1.7 found it very good but issues were BT not working and many times found lag in the system.

Currently on Juwe's v4.1 not such issue's. Works really well and smooth.

--

Rupesh
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trad2kx:
I tried every single ROM available in the Development section. Decided to stick with the DOC's ROM. It is the most stable, flexible and versatile.

JS8 + Hardcore Kernel

It has all the necessities including standard features + call recording. Battery life is very good. Works with almost any themes and supports most of the add ons. No FCs. Before, i used to change ROMs everyday which took so much of my time. I think, JS8 is the most stable and efficient ROM at the moment. I would like to try GB, but it is still unstable and lacks many features that I need in my everyday life.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] waterpipe67:
After a bit of help from azzledazzle I went for Darkys rom well fast and stable,being new to Sammy's I had a bit of trouble at first especially when I just come from HTC s .

These phones rock especially with a new rom & kernnel
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AmdPhenomII:
Yeah, I can recommend this one too, running Juwe's 4.1 rom in my sgs and it's very fast and reliable!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Whoosh13:
Try Darky's ROM 9.5 if you want a highly stable, clean and fast Froyo 2.2.1 ROM.

However if you want a Gingerbread 2.3.3 based ROM then you should try Darky's Gingerbread Edition Release Candidate 5 Build 3 :D over here:

http://www.darkyrom.com/community/i...darky-v10-rc5-3-captivate-users-welcome.2420/

Although I must warn you, you need to be more experienced and be able to solve your own problems if you are trying out the rc version of darkys rom if you overcome any, however many have reported it is highly stable and ready for daily use.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FlipModeOC:
+1 for Juwe's ROM I think its wonderful but sadly it lacks good Hebrew support so I'm currently using PilotX which is also good.

You can always try this flashing guide.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisdavesants:
Froyo i suggest darkys rom 9.5

Gingerbread i suggest simplyhoney 3.1.... the best roms... easy flashing steps...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO THE FUNCTION OF RECORDING INFORMATION ABOUT MICROSD CARD BENCHAMARK AND ANDROID ROM PERFORMANCE ON THE SD CARD.FROM NOW ON REPORT YOUR BENCHMARK TOGHETHER WITH THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHICH ROM YOU HAVE INSTALLED AND HOW IT WORK ( LAGS ECC. ) PERSONALLY I SUGGEST TO TRY WITH THIS ONE : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=954030

1) FOR THE BENCHMARK USE THIS : http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe TO CHECK ACCESS TIME

2)THEN USE THIS TO AND RUN TEST OF 50 MB AND 500 MB TO CHECK RANDOM READ AND OTHER STUFF : http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskMark/index-e.html

Also use this app from the market ( it's free ) to improve read speed https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sdincrease.it . Anyway this is about daily use on your android ROM, it doesn't interfere with the test that you can run on your computer !

Original first post :

Hi all !

I was looking for a good memory card to use for booting android from memory card, expecially I was interested in the desire hd build which I know are the slowest one. I hope that a class 10 micro sd with a good access time can solve the speed problem .

I have selected those microsd as I don't want to spend more that 30 euro :

1) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Patriot-Cla...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1303572216&sr=8-1

2) http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...source=9593&_$ja=tsid:11853|prd:88610&cur=258

3 ) http://www.kmelektronik.de/shop/ind...8&Ref=104&gp=4653&fd=608294&ID2=9007765597179

4) http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...109247&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_4103wt_905

any suggest ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yugoport:
My advice to you is: check online the benchmarks and tests to SD cards, you don't need a class 10th SD card, it probably will be slower on Android than a class 2, because class 10 SD cards have a huge sequential data speed but a low random write/read, search for random access benchmarks and buy your SD from a reliable seller, carefull with eBay fakes..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] avkwok:
Agreed! You may not need Class 10 micro SD as random access speed is much important. Besides, the power consumption of micro SD is also important for running Android on SD. For your info.,

-- normal max. power consumption of KingMax Class 4/6 micro SD is 60mA

-- normal max. power consumption of Toshiba Class 4 micro SD is 80mA

-- normal max. power consumption of Transcend Class 4/6 micro SD is 100mA

-- ......

You can search to find more info. about power consumption of micro SD. As these info. is from official site, which micro SD is the balance between performance and power consumption is required to be tested on HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] axl30:
get the Adata is the best purchase you can do read write 20 mb 16 mb

:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
I see, thanks you all for those advise, anyway I need a 16 gb microsd because now Ihave a 8gb and it's full and I don't know if 16gb class 6 exists !!!

Also my memory is a "team" 8gb class 6 micro sd and I think that it has a bad random access as android never runs well on it...Sadly I don't think that I can find benchmark for those memory card and expecially benchmark of people that are using them to run android.

Also on the productors site there aren't any data on the random access !!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yugoport:
You can use a program called crystalmark to test every aspects of the SD card.. its very good, if you want I can put here my results with my 8gb and 16gb cards..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
yeah it would be nice ! Also indicate the brand of the cards !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
my "team" micro sd has an access time ov 2.2 ms ...too high !!

I have seen this http://www.androidiani.com/forum/htc-hero/9327-microsd-16gb-classe-6-benchmark.html years better !!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Patrick P931:
I was just about to do a search on this. :)

I just want the "best" sd card for a reasonable amount of money (let's say max 200 Euro).

What do you recommend? I don't really need more than 16 GB but I want speed and safety.

What do you think of: Sandisk Sdhc Extreme Pro - 16gb, 45 MB/s?

All input is appreciated!

Cheers,

Patrick
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yugoport:
im having lags with 16gb kingston sd card:

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo

Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/

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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 7.055 MB/s

Sequential Write : 4.135 MB/s

Random Read 512KB : 7.066 MB/s

Random Write 512KB : 0.671 MB/s

Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 1.780 MB/s [ 434.6 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.006 MB/s [ 1.4 IOPS]

Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 1.821 MB/s [ 444.6 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.006 MB/s [ 1.4 IOPS]

Test : 500 MB [I: 31.2% (4.6/14.9 GB)] (x5)

Date : 2011/04/19 22:56:47

OS : Windows Vista Home Premium Edition SP2 [6.0 Build 6002] (x86)

16gb class4 kingston

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo

Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/

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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 2.184 MB/s

Sequential Write : 5.750 MB/s

Random Read 512KB : 2.182 MB/s

Random Write 512KB : 1.682 MB/s

Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 1.535 MB/s [ 374.7 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.017 MB/s [ 4.2 IOPS]

Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 1.077 MB/s [ 262.9 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.065 MB/s [ 15.8 IOPS]

Test : 500 MB [I: 76.4% (5798.1/7585.2 MB)] (x5)

Date : 2011/04/19 23:59:57

OS : Windows Vista Home Premium Edition SP2 [6.0 Build 6002] (x86)

daneelec 8gb class4

I´m using sd builds..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rebecker:
I bought a Patriot 16GB class 10 card, not knowing what I was doing, thinking the faster the better. It was unusable for Android on my HD2. I've used both a Kingston 8GB class 2 and an Adata 16GB class 2 without any issues. Will buy a Kingston 16GB class 4 in the near future. From comments, it seems to be a good card.

-Bob-
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
not really, kingstone has bad access time from what I have read on the internet..

So your patriot LX 16 gb class 10 is unsuble ? I was thinking to buy just that !!!

Why don't you try to do a hdtune 2.55 test ? it takes 2 minute..so we can see you access time ! ( for the patriot and the a-data ! )
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
Thanks for your feedback..actually your bench doesn't have the random access data abd I do not know how to read value about ranom writing and random reading..anyway if you say that it lags I believe you !

FOR ANYONE ! TRY TO DO TEST USING THIS : http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe AND LOOK TO THE RANDON ACCES TIME ! !!

Also I have tried different android build and considering that the major part opf the people want sense on it I have seen that those are the fasters around :

1) desire hd ( the most heavy i think ) : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=954030 AND http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=801607

2) desire : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=950035 ( this is the faster build with sense that I have tried on SD ...)

try your memory with those builds and report !!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rebecker:
I downloaded hdtune. Don't see a random access time. Here's what I found:

Patriot 16GB Class 10

Transfer time: Minimum 16.5 - Maximum 17.2 - Average 17

Access Time: 0.8 ms

Burst Rate: 14.2 MB/sec

CU Usage: 23.8%

Kingston 8GB Class 2

Transfer time: Minimum 15.6 - Maximum 17.1 - Average 16.6

Access Time: 0.9 ms

Burst Rate: 14.0 MB/sec

CU Usage: 22.5%

Adata 16GB Class 2

Transfer time: Minimum 14.2 - Maximum 14.7 - Average 14.4

Access Time: 1.0 ms

Burst Rate: 13.3 MB/sec

CU Usage: 21.8%

The issue with the Patriot 16GB card is that I was consistently getting errors after 24-48 hours of use. That has never happened with the other two cards. I can see that the differences between the Kingston 8GB and the Patriot are very small. Obviously, the Adata is less impressive, but 18% on speed and 25% on access time is acceptable if the card is solid. Any suggestions re the Patriot card? Obviously, it was expensive and it would be nice to be able to use it.

-Bob-
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
well I have write wrong ! I was referring to the access time !! HDtune do not show random access !! By the way your patriot sd is not bad at all also if I have to say that A-data is most impressive because it's a class 2 and has spec of a class 10 !

AH maybe this is your are lucky! I know what's the problem with your patriot SD card, I have read this yesterday. Try this and your patriot card will work wihout any problems : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1010228 you have to format it without the LBA protocoll then you can use it with android !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rebecker:
I'll give it a try and let you know how it works. Thanks.

Edit: In the future I will NOT be able to use the standard SDFormatter, correct? A full DOS prompt format every time?

-Bob-
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
if you could test it with this rom you would do me a favor http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=954030 !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rebecker:
I'll give it a try and let you know in a day or two if the formatting worked.

-Bob-
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
I think that they refer to the formatter tool dof the micro sd assosiation..I think that you have to use the windows foramtter with that line..but it doesn't seem a big iusse to me..I mean i don't format every day !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mikemol:
Do not buy number 1 - Patriot LX class 10. I bought two of them and have terrible results - some androids do not boot at all, constant cash files, error files on the card, often files become unreadable and you can't delete them anymore and have to format the card - not good at all. Now ordered a class 6 card that's 38 dollars more expensive than this Patriot class 10 card
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rebecker:
I'm having some problems with speed and the Market. Since I don't use this mod, I'm not able to say if it's the card or the software. I'm going to use a version that I'm familiar with to see how it runs on the Patriot card.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

-Bob-
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yugoport:
Take a deep look, random write and random read is what you want, crystalmark shows those values to you, hdtune doesn't, if you search on Google you will find a lot of tests with crystalmark, and you can use that info to buy your card, you can see that random access is in mb/s, see that the Kingston one has a lower random value? The other one (dane-elec) has higher random values wich makes it better to run an OS or apps.. Kingston SD card lags and freezes sometimes, dane-elec works very well..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
I understand what you mean but actually your kingstone card has better results on reading and worst result on writing than your daneelec card, I was thinking that what counts was the read spedd as i don't think that while you lunch an app or scroll home pages the sistem need to write something !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
ok could you just bench your patriot card with this http://www.forest.impress.co.jp/lib/dl/c/crystaldisk/CrystalDiskMark3_0_1a.exe_dl.html so we can see random write and random read !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yugoport:
I'm a noob in this too my friend, I think the last 2 random write values are very important to run Android, but our best shot is to test cards with good performance on Android and compare the results.. hopefully we'll find people here in the forum that can test their cards so we can compare..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rebecker:
Here you are. I have no idea what these numbers represent, so your response will be appreciated.

SEQ - Read 18.09 - Write 12.42

512K - Read 18.07 - Write 0.622

4K - Read 4.694 - Write 0.006

4K QD32 - Read 5.020 - Write 0.007

-Bob-
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
well confronting this results with the this one : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1048649 it seems that patriot card has a very good read speed and a not that great write speed. I think that during "random" test the benchmark tool try to read or write a file totaly casually without start a proper process of transfert ( it should be what a main system do ) obviusly "I think" I'm not an expert !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yugoport:
Thanks for The results.. for small files random write seems to be the same as my Kingston class 4, and it seems that is the key, the values from 512k and 4k random write tests, you can see that my cheap dane-elec card has higher numbers in those tests..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rebecker:
I just removed the Patriot card from my phone. It started to fail within the first hour of use, in spite of the reformatting procedure recommended above. It's a dog of a card; totally unusable in MY HD2. I have never had read/write errors with my 8GB Kingston card or my 16GB Adata card. I think we have a situation where the specs of the SD cards are totally used for advertising and have no real bearing on the actual quality and performance of the card. Since I would like to have 2 working 16GB cards so I can switch between my day to day build and new builds I'm testing, I will probably order another *slow* Adata 16GB class 2 card. The cards have no value if they are not reliable.

-Bob-
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
that's strange...I was thinking taht with that procedure all problems were solved..anyway i suggest you to repeat the format without LBA also you can check on patriot memory forum as I have seen yesterday that there was some threads about this over there.

take a look at this post : http://android.modaco.com/content-p...microsd-class-10-p19-95/page/20/#entry1681276 it intersting..and it explains some datas..It seems that the low values on random writing is normal...

Also that memory card linked over there look promising !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rebecker:
I think it's just a bad card. Live and learn. :o
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yugoport:
From what i saw in Monaco thread they use the SD card in a different way, because zte blade is a native android device, they dont need to run an entire OS from SD card.. let's see if we can get more tests from SD cards that work good and SD cards that work not so good, to see if we can achieve a conclusion, I'm in the market for a new one too, just don't want to throw my money away like I did with the Kingston SD card....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yugoport:
Here it is another bench, now in my 4gb scandisk class2, it work much better than my 16gb kingston class 4 but not so good as 8gb daneelec class4;

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo

Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/

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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 2.503 MB/s

Sequential Write : 6.111 MB/s

Random Read 512KB : 2.478 MB/s

Random Write 512KB : 1.353 MB/s

Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 1.923 MB/s [ 469.5 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.013 MB/s [ 3.2 IOPS]

Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 1.941 MB/s [ 474.0 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.013 MB/s [ 3.1 IOPS]

Test : 50 MB [H: 0.0% (0.0/3773.5 MB)] (x2)

Date : 2011/04/26 11:03:08

OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x86)

I think that the values in red are the most important to run android in the sd, but we need more tests, i have another sd card, a chinese one, and will test it, the will run android on it to see how it goes..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
considering that the patriot has problems I'm loocking for benchmark of an A-data. Also I woyld like to know if the reselts on modaco comes from that memory a 19 pounds if I remember well it was an inno8 something ( anyway it's strange because, because there were 2 results on that thread with contrast results so I don't know which one is right )
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rebecker:
Adata 16GB Class 2

SEQ Read 15.08 Write 7.858

512K Read 14.43 Write 1.686

4K Read 3.588 Write 0.020

4K QD32 Read 3.714 Write 0.021
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] light_n_roses:
considering that it's a class 2 it's not bad at all ....I would like to see an a-data class 6 and 10 !