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[Defy General] danimagrin:
When flashing Eclair back from Froyo should I flash the whole sbf and then restore nandroid backup or should I left CG31 and CG39 out like if I were upgrading with a fixed rom?

Do you know what CGs are present in a Nandroid backup?

It saves on headaches but if I don't install recovery, although I'll be able to flash Korean Froyo directly, there will be no way to backup my firmware and so even if I am able to downgrade I won't have my backup to do so. Right?

You are right but don't forget about warranty! Say my camera or touchscreen stop working, they will put the blame on the modded firmware, so I have to be able to go forth and back to keep things official if needed.

Sure you're helping! Thank you very much!
[Defy General] fritolays:
Yup to downgrade flash the full sbf, then your nandroid - fixed sbf's are for going up in versions.

Doesnt really work that way. It backs up your data, cache and system partitions.

Make a backup before you flash the sbf. The backup gets saved to your sdcard card so you can copy it to your computer. That way even if recovery gets deleted from flashing a full sbf you can just re-install recovery, copy your nandroid back to your sdcard, restore it and be on your merry way.

I void warranties. :o) At this point its your call. Just to note though officially moto will not fix your phone if it has a leaked version on it. Official ones are ok, and the Korean one is the only official Froyo one out there.
[Defy General] danimagrin:
When one sends something for repair here in Brazil they ask for the proof of purchase/invoice (don't know what's the best word for that in English). So, you know... It's a little strange... A phone bought in Brazil running Korean software. They will complain immediately :D But I won't worry about that.

I've read the CGs thread. Unfortunately there isn't a long explanation about what each CG is responsible for, but only a short description for some of them, and no description for 32, 35, 42, 45, 53, 61, 64 and 65.

However, as far as I understood, some CGs stay the same but some change between different ROM versions. So, if I reflash Eclair after Froyo and restore my Nandroid Backup, despite having the same data, cache and system partitions, some CGs will be different from the firmware I'm running now. Any issues about that, if I choose to stay with Eclair after all?
[Defy General] danimagrin:
I've sucessfully made the nandroid backup of my phone.

But just to make sure I understand things, I would like to make one last question. I couldn't find the exact sbf of my firmware on the internet (JORLA_U3_6.36.1).

So, if I need to reflash 2.1, it won't be JORLA_U3_6.36.1.

Will my nandroid backup work together with any other 2.1 sbf than the JORLA_U3_6.36.1? For instance, will it work if I flash JRDNEM_U3_2.21.0, that I can find on the internet?

Thank you...
[Defy General] kashavsehra:
I don't think some CG's stay the same when you flash an sbf, I believe its the CG version that changes. For instance if a particular CG is at version 2 on your phone, some froyo full flashes may update that CG to version 3, and thus you cannot flash back down to a version 2, you can only flash CGs that are the same version or higher.
[Defy General] danimagrin:
You're right indeed, but as far as i know some CGs do stay the same between different sbf versions, as you can see, for example, in this comparison taken from CM7 thread:
[Defy General] danimagrin:
Just forgot to mention that this also means, obviously, that CGs having same version can binarly differ...
[Defy General] mindugo:
Very useful information for Android beginners like me, but the most important question still remains - is full sbf of the stock ROM is required in case of downgrade to the stock version? Or can I use nandroid backup of my stock ROM together with different version of Eclair sbf?

The problem is that I cannot find full sbf of my stock ROM, but I want to be able to get back to it if needed.
[Defy General] kashavsehra:
Agreed, some code groups can stay the same. I wonder what the procedure is to work out what version a CG is?

Actually a database/table of s/w versions along with the CG numbers and version would be a good resourse to help people understand what downgradability options they have by knowing what versions they are flashing to their phones.
[Defy General] kashavsehra:
Have you tried to plug your device to your PC and seeing if the Motorola Software Update tool detects any software versions for it? If so it will download the complete sbf from motorola servers to your Hard Drive.
[Defy General] danimagrin:
Used MotoAndroidDepacker (also used to fix SBFs) to extract individual CGs, than the app from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=945035 to tell each CGs' version. To compare CGs you can use good old linux diff command.

I had the same doubt as yours because I couldn't find the exact sbf of my stock ROM also, but I've tested my stock ROM Nandroid backup (Eclair) and it worked together with every different Eclair SBF I tried, independently whether the "helper" sbf was full or fixed or the CG version it had. Just be aware that even a Eclair ROM may have greater CG version than the one installed on your phone so if you flash one of these you won't be able to come back using a full sbf (if you had it...). However if you lock your phone you can always downgrade using fixed sbf + nandroid backup.

Don't know if I was clear enough, I know this is confuse to explain.

It's easier if you tell your stock rom version and what you want to do exactly.

Feel free to ask if you have any doubts...

:)
[Defy General] rafaelw:
Question about update and downgrade

Hello android people!

I'm new to android world, and i have done some things, differente from daniel.........i didn't read sufficiently before, and i already have make some upgrades.

I installed a sbf file - 3.4.2-117 002 blur usa

I wanna know if i can go back to Eclair sbf, just like daniel asked, cause i'm from Brazil and i have the same thing he sayed, about lose the warranty.

Another question, i get the 3.4.3-11 blur usa, the one Quarz from CM7 recomend to install.

If i install that sbf, can i downgrade to the one that i'm already using, or to the Eclair sbf??

Thanks everybody, i starting to like very much this forum, and the android world.

Cheers
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eatTHESEbullets:
I'm not to worried about speed as the nexus s seems way faster then my old vibrant. So which rom kernel is everyone running to get the best battery life!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
kernel: Netarchy's 1.3.0.5-CFS for sure.

ROM: i use CM7 and battery life is fine for me.

the biggest battery saver is to use BLACK colors. they don't use any power on super amoled screens (applies to I9020 models only)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eatTHESEbullets:
Thanks. Will try it
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eatTHESEbullets:
Didn't get me battery life I was expecting. After thirteen hours I'm at 15%
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] catchsomezz:
what was your freq range and governor? have you tried UVing with netarchy's kernel?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imneo1:
There are also other things to consider, such as:

Account Sync

3G/Mobile data

WIFI

Bluetooth

livewallpaper

widgets

screen brightness

Task - Manager,WatchDog.... and many others...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blacksmithjk:
I recently put the Vegan-tab V1.0.065.11 with the Cyanogen Mod kernel 2.6.32.32 on my new g Tablet. Prior to that time I was able to use my computer to load files as it saw my g Tablet as a storage device.

Now when I try to use the cable link between the computer and the tablet it recognizes it as a removable storage device but when trying to access the tablets file structure I get a windows pop-up that states "Please insert disk into drive F". I have tried this on two workstations both running XP with the same result.

I also am unable to read files on a memory stick. I had not tried this before I had switched to Vegan so I am unsure as to wither this was a problem prior to the switch.

There is no message on the tablet regarding the turning on of any service or the mounting of the USB device. Does anyone have any suggestions as how I can get these file transfer mediums working again?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darisb:
I am having the same problem. It has worked fine for about two weeks and how I'm not getting the prompt either. The same thing happened with another ROM. I can connect fine with ADB. I am currently running VEGAn Gingerbread. The same problem happened when I was running AOSP Gingerbread. It happened after about five days with AOSP GB.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gifton1:
Same problem here - im using ginger edition
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] outdooz:
Are you guys turning on USB mass storage by selecting usb connected and then turn on?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darisb:
That's the thing... after a period the prompt to turn on or off the USB storage stops displaying after a period. The only prompt that I see is for USB debugging, and turning that on or off has not affect on my ability to connect to the internal storage from multiple Windows boxes. The prompt was there last weekend, but it's gone now.
[Xperia Arc General] Ramos1910:
I am on my second Arc and both screens are exhibiting scratches despite being kept in a pouch and not coming into contact with any hard surfaces. Anyone else notice these so called 'scratch resistant' screens are far from?
[Xperia Arc General] commodoor:
Are you sure it's the screen it self and not the screen protector that's on it?

Most people get the arc with screen protector already on it. look close maybe you will see it.
[Xperia Arc General] Ramos1910:
took the screen protectors off as they diminish the quality of the screen both look and touch wise. didnt think it would be an issue considering the marketing spiel about the mineral glass!!
[Xperia Arc General] resetoriginal:
from my experience with "scratch resistant" screens, unless its gorilla glass, get a screen shield.
[Xperia Arc General] im_iceman:
Depends what you mean by removing the "screen protector".. the actual factory fitted, almost invisible screen protector??
[Xperia Arc General] Ramos1910:
you mean there is another removable film under the sticky with the peel tab??!? hmmm
[Xperia Arc General] im_iceman:
I'll assume, for now, that was a genuine response and not a sarcastic one!! ;-)

Yes.. if you look at the very edge of the screen you can see where the factory fitted screen protector is.. it really is the best screen protector you'll get...
[Xperia Arc General] Ramos1910:
Ah ha! thats hilarious - I never would have guessed that! apologies for being so retarded - I never bought a phone which came fitted with a protector under another protector! its so flush I dont think i would have ever noticed! i just wonder how everyone else but me saw it. very helpful - thanks alot.

i'll just go and find a sword to fall on... :D
[Xperia Arc General] commodoor:
lol

I was also surprised, really great from SE.
[Xperia Arc General] frankhan:
My 10 year old Omega Seamaster has mineral glass and showing no scatch what so ever. My iPhone4 with gorilla glass is one big scratch.

I have the Arc now and am very happy with it.
[Xperia Arc General] estuardo4:
Hello,

Does anyone here with an Arc have removed the factory installed screen protector and have gone without applying another screen protector? How is your screen doing?

I'm changing screen protectors every two months and I hate to do it, but I want to know if the scratch resistant screen is indeed scratch resistant. I'd love to go without a screen protector, but I'm afraid to do so, unless someone without using one can tell me his/her story.

Thank you.
[Xperia Arc General] azaberl:
I know it's not the Arc, but check out this SE Xperia Active "screen torture"
[Xperia Arc General] Overdose1986:
Mine (arc s) had no protector for about a month and got 0 scratches...

Now Im using an oleophobic protector(Steinheil Ultra Series [Ultra Optics]) and I think is unnecessary because the screen already have a better oleophobic coating, also reduces the screen brightness

BTW my brother xperia x10 still without protector for over a year and have no scratches

Sorry for my english
[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
My wife took off her protection and now we are having another baby! Jk she saw scratches right away I would recommend using a scratch protector, because even the so called gorilla glass can scratch with just regular use
[Xperia Arc General] realfelix:
So you guys mean that under the thingy u can peel off with the tab on the top edge is a screenprotector? I can see something standing up from the screen at the edges but cant get it off?
[Xperia Arc General] daveybaby:
Yup, that's it. It's *really* difficult to get off.

Removed mine about 6 months ago after it got scratched. Never bothered to install the spare that came in the box. Been keeping the phone in my pocket (with wallet, but no keys or coins in that pocket ever) and there are still no scratches whatsoever on the screen.

There are plenty of chips & scratches all over the rest of the phone though. :p

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Really? What on earth is she doing to the thing? I've dropped mine so many time's it's not even funny, it has chips and scratches all over it (including one scratch i'm particularly proud of right across the camera lens) and yet the screen is still pristine.

Are you absolutely sure you dont still have the factory fitted screen protector on it? Unless of course she's keeping it in a handbag filled with rusty nails and sandpaper, which is what my ex-gf seemingly used to do to anything she borrowed of mine...
[Xperia Arc General] adsada arc:
Just like to point out something important, the protector that is factory applied and is hard to get off is a SHATTER PROOF SHEET! As the screen has been designed to be airtight (the gap between the screen at the touch layer) I have heard of people who have removed this protector and after dropping their arc, the whole screen shattered :(

This is why despite having a **** load of scratches, I'm too afraid to remove this cover, so I wouldn't really recommend it...
[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
It doesn't take much more than a key
[Xperia Arc General] realfelix:
How did you get it off lol? I cant even get it to peel a bit..
[Xperia Arc General] Pumphandle:
Am I the only one that got the screen protector separate in the box?

I had to put it on myself (very scary moment).

Must admit i've never regretted it!
[Xperia Arc General] realfelix:
well i didnt get 1 seperate.. there was just a film with a tab on the top left corner to peel off, and now theres something standing a bit up from the screen i think.. that might be the screenprotector :P
[Xperia Arc General] estuardo4:
A lady from one of the Mall`s booths took it off. She didn`t have a problem removing it. I don t know how she did it, because I spent a lot of time trying to remove it myself. She then replaced it with another screen protector. And no bubbles there. She really knows how to do what she does for a living.

I hate screen protectors because they are made of plastic and they can get a lot of scratches in a few days, but they are cheap to replace.

I think I`m gonna take my chances and will go without screen protection. I see my children ipods that have no screen protection and receive a lot of abuse, and the screen looks perfect. No scratches. I`m used to place screen protectors on my Palms/cell phones for 15 years now, but it seems that the new screen technology make SP avoidable.
[Xperia Arc General] fluxgfx:
I can safely say that the screen protector that comes on by default it easy to take of. Just lift any corner and voilà! Done.

I still have the original screen protector that comes pre installed. Work perfectly fine for me. I don't see why I would take it off or replace it as it's not damage and so far the phone has suffered abuse since I got mine early December.
[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
No now you have two of them on they give you an extra it comes from factory with it on
[Xperia Arc General] estuardo4:
The problem with mine is that it received a splash of sunscreen lotion and after cleaning it up the screen was all fogged up. I had to remove it as I can`t see a thing.

Now I have some minor scratches on my new SP, nothing major after four months. So I`m confident that if I remove it, my screen won`t suffer. I always have my cell alone in my pant`s pocket. I only wanted to know if someone have went with a naked screen and it seems it`s safe to remove, based on the answers I`ve received. Thank you.
[Xperia Arc General] fluxgfx:
Gotcha on that!

I am nonetheless thinking of replacing my screen protector from Invisible Shield from Zagg. It's what I've been going with for a long time now and I've been quite happy with the life cycle of them.
[Xperia Arc General] ishishkin:
See this guys! For you, who says that is posible to scratch screen... The man broke his screen(digitizer) and brought the new one...old one is on a video and it can't be damaged))))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHxwrP7G-Qk
[Xperia Arc General] estuardo4:
Thank you for sharing. If the screen of the Arc is as tough as this video shows, and as tough as the one from the ipod touch, then I have nothing to worry about.

But the truth is that I'm nervous, as this is the first time I'm going without a screen protector in years!
[Xperia Arc General] ishishkin:
Relax, it is like a first sex...just relax and do it))))

As for me, I am using pre-installed SP...no scratch on it, got one more in box and brought one more because it was a good deal and it is matte anti glare - veri curious how it will look. i think those will be enough for years!
[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
Lol if you look at the screen from an angle you will see the scratch my wife's phone if you look straight no scratches! Turn and see all the scratches
[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
Or better yet you make a video and you do that to your screen lol
[Xperia Arc General] estuardo4:
I've been using my Arc with no screen protection for a day now, and I can tell you this:

The screen is smooth. It is very easy to use. It feels great.

The screen gets dirty really easy. I have to clean it up more than when I had the SP on.

Maybe what we all need is a screen protector like this:

http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/ap...tor-glas-t-premium-tempered-glass-series.html
[Xperia Arc General] ishishkin:
Come on you guys! Can you imagine what kind of scratches will appear after sharp blade of that knife??? If there is some micro scratches - it is nothing comparing with ordinary glass!!!! There is no resistant surface in the world except diamond... So be proud of your screen protector...Lols...

And what for is that linked SP for iPhone 4??? It has a "super gorilla glass"...useless thin, just like an iPhone!
[Xperia Arc General] estuardo4:
Yeah, but I believe that having a glass SP is a much better option than having a plastic one. It will scratch, but at a lower rate than plastic.

I guess that the only way we don`t believers can be sure that the glass on the Arc is unscratchable is testing it with a knife ourselves. But that`s not gonna happen.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benny6812:
So, seeing as webtop is basically linux, and we can now install ubuntu on it, is there any possibility of wine working on the phone.

Thanks guys
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] palmboy5:
Nope, Wine is not an emulator / virtual machine. Wine only works to run Windows applications in linux on computers with x86 processors.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neer2005:
Wine could technically run on it. Sadly I don't have the slightest clue on how to get it to run.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benny6812:
Is there no wine for ARM, i thought there was?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jotokun:
Wine is a compatibility layer that substitutes Windows API calls with comprable Unix/Linux ones. Because of this, the answer is no. The Atrix's processor uses an ARM instruction set, and (at least until Windows 8) all windows apps use the x86 instruction set. There's no instruction set substitution(emulation) going on, just the apis.
[Surround General] chriscell420:
I know on my tilt 2 there was a .cab that I could install to allow for snooze options greater than 5 min. Is there anything like that available for the Surround?
[Surround General] doejohn531:
You can download Alarm Clock from the marketplace. It gives you tons more options than the default alarm clock including the ability to change the snooze duration.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DubzEm:
What do you guys think is the best android phone? I have to go with Epic 4g
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dg 3:
HTC Thunderbolt 4G and Droid Bionic Sent from my Droid Bionic using XDA Premium App
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ErOR22:
Desire HD!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nextz:
Galaxy s 4G
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TunaCanyon:
Why choose? Theres a phone for every occasion. But since you asked, the HTC incredible cause its mine, the previous generation (cheap!) and covers all the bases...for me anyway.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whatisapixel:
I got my first and only Android device in May 2010. I love it. I have only learnt how to root the device and install custom ROM's in the last 3 weeks! So I have been out of the loop for sometime. But for me, the HTC Desire is the perfect phone!

My next phone will most likely be the HTC Sensation. Will set be back quite a few pound coins (Still can't believe I took a 24-month contract!) , but it will be worth it!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NasrulBond:
samsung galaxy s gt i9000!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lovespancakes96:
Evo 3d will rape the sensation. I don't get why allthe hype for.the sensation.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kraken T3ch:
Desire HD :D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] galaxys:
HTC Nexus One (Googles Development device)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stunna27:
Galaxy s for sure
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dani26286:
htc glacier aka mytouch 4g version of desire hd, in the US , on tmobile. best smartphone i ever used. continues to amaze me on a daily basis!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killahrey:
Been all over every android phone, from G1 to the Droids, Galaxy S to the G2x, the only two phones to ever impress me, the Nexus One, and the Thunderbolt.

The Thunderbolt should have been the Nexus 3.

Perviously I had turned BB and Apple fan boys into android fan boys with the Nexus One.

Now I have turned moto, galaxy lovers into htc fan boys with the Thunderbolt.

Its absolutely amazing, sans sense of course, theres nothing wrong with sence, I've just always perfered vanilla android.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redbullcat:
My two current phones of choice are the Galaxy S and the Nexus One. But I'm gonna get the Galaxy S II, so I think that will become my favourite Android phone when I get that.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EsOne:
I think the soon coming Evo 3D will own.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] howezzhuang:
The phone now I am using is Samsung Vibrant(Galaxy S),satisfy. Yet my favorite one might be Moto Atri 4G.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vincebay:
HTC Desire, aside difficulties to rood and rom it :cool:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwoodrow:
Android on Windows Phone 7

Would you guys recommend getting a windows phone 7 and loading android on there, or getting an Android phone and loading windows phone 7?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmby:
sony ericsson x10
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ForLorN SouL:
samsung galaxy s
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EleCtrOx666:
Galaxy S II.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fatboi55:
htc g2 and htc hd2
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weekendvillain233:
HTC Desire, but recently got a closer look at the Incredible S and I must admit that it's a very nice device as well.. :cool: