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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] amazinglarry311:
oh no i fully intend to do a froyo version, i asked pershoot what's involved and it sounds like a fun learning process, just cant give an ETA shorter than a week or so.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xboarder56:
i added the wifi module from yours also it works great and people like the higer clock
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] amazinglarry311:
Excellent!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] brzgw:
maybe reseting setcpu would help, like press MENU then DEVICE SELECTION, then flash it over again. I will flash it and see if I can produce that problem
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dixxa:
great news (smartass) !

I'll look forward your next kernel with smartass included then :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] waydownsouth:
@amazinglarry

I just compiled Pershoot's kernel including the smartass governor from Erasmux's source here

Still testing, but, have had no issues so far... :cool:

HTH
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] amazinglarry311:
sweet! post it up in here, i can mirrior it, or start a new thread! the more the merrier!

I wanna see some source though! (i would be happy to provide mine, it's pershoots with one file changed, real simple stuff)

TheNewGuy has been compiling kernels as well and it sounds like he's got some pretty sweet stuff planned.

I'm relocating my family to houston within the next two weeks so i wont have too much time to do anything but release this same kernel if pershoots updates his git, the froyo kernel will have to be put on the backburner, but you froyo guys might get a nice surprise from TheNewGuy in that respect.

Now, if you dont mind suffering a fool, out of curiousity i have a question. And feel free not to answer, but how difficult was it to just integrate it into pershoots source and add smartass to the config file as a configurable governor i seriously just started compiling from source recently and then had to stop doing it for fear of legal reprisal from sony (long story), so now i'm back with a new phone, some knowledge, and i deceided to try and compile android source. pretty good luck for my first try (10th if you pay attention to the kernel build number, but the first one i compiled booted) while i have worked with android and scripting for as long as i've had a phone and have been a computer geek since i the internet was invented by al gore, this is all new to me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] waydownsouth:
No Prob, I need to test a little more & try some different configs before setting it upon the masses tho!

Its shouldn't be too difficult for someone who is a computer geek, I'll pm you a patch when I get back onto my Linux box on Monday. But, more or less, you copy the files over, modify values to suit, tweak the config & you're golden...

I've been using Linux for years so am reasonably proficient in bash, compiling from source & messing around with kernels etc. Currently use Arch, which was one of the better things I ever did, helped my understanding a whole lot as you have to configure your system from the ground up.

My C & C++ skills aren't flash, but, can follow other peoples code & most of what I learn comes from following various repos on github.

Like yourself, I'm more of a scripter, currently learning Python...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] poochie2:
Are the voltages different from Pershoot's kernel? If so, could you please post them?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] -PoXx-:
The voltages are the same as pershoots. I'll also post the update from pershoot for 4/30/2011 when larry is done compiling it later this afternoon. He would post it, but is unable to until his ban is lifted in june.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
LOL! What did he get temp-banned for? I just noticed that before I read this...

He seems to keep his nose clean and has helped out quite a bit lately. Must a mod with a stick up their butt or something...:confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] -PoXx-:
"trolling/argumentative behavior"

Not even a warning.

If anyone wants an updated version of the kernel, I can post them until larry gets the ability to even view the forum again. Just let me know, I'll pass any messages his way.

If you do think he was helpful, pm TheRomMistress and let her know you think his ban was unfair and that his presence was more helpful than it was a problem. All he did was respond to other people's negativity and tried to settle some unfounded information by asking the developer to explain claims they made.

Now, as for the kernel, larry is waiting on a few things to integrate the smartass governor, from testing with it, he and myself aren't really seeing any many improvements in power usage or performance so we're more inclined not to include in subsequent releases and keep things clean.

Again though, larry urges anyone who is building kernels to post them here and we can aggregate one location for kernels or open some new threads. I know at least three of you who are working with compiling your own kernels and a common complaint is that people want more choices and variety!

Lets see those overclocked bfs kernels with smartass governor!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Carphedon:
Hell yeah i want an updated version! :D This kernel is awsome and one that can function properly without wake lags and stuff. With the regular pershoot kernel i always get wake legs due to the on demand governor. Putting screenoff profile on interactive fixes most wake issues.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] waydownsouth:
>_<

So you guys have smartass working now too?

I'm still undecided as to its worth in pershoot's kernel, finding the right config that works with the frequency table seems the key. The wrong values can be worse for battery life...

Still working on it.

How bout HAVS? In the early stages of implementing that too...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] -PoXx-:
It boots.. but i wouldnt say we have it "working" at least up to larry's standards. A lot of that could be poor understanding on larry's part of how and what the smartass governor is really doing, he's admittedly new to the linux kernel and it's intimate inner-workings.

we're never against trying new things, so it would be a fun learning experience to give it a go. we'll have to spend a few seconds with google, or maybe you can enlighten larry and myself as to what benefits are presented with HAVS, we've seen it in some glacier kernels and have been curious as to the meaning, i guess not enough to just search though!

Kernel is being compiled now, may not post the update until the morning depending on if we fall asleep.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheNewGuy:
I do have a froyo kernel made from pershoots git - hub and I modded one file just like AmazingLarry said... real simple stuff... So if anyone is interested I can post it when I get home tonight... It has all governors, swap and OC / UV... I will wait to add more stuff before I post it if there is no real pressing interest... :)

It is a bummer about Larry getting banned... I found his posts very helpful... But he will be back and we can keep his thread alive until he returns!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] marquis.hagetaka:
finally speed and USB mounting. this is appreciated:D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
Yeah, throw it up. There are a couple of us still on froyo....
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] waydownsouth:
HAVS = Hybrid Adaptive Voltage Scaling

An excerpt from a thread in the Evo 4G forums here

Form the outside it appears that there may be some benefit for the more obsessive amongst us, probably not so much for mainstream use tho as stability could be an issue.

I'm working on a test build at the moment so will post back my findings once I've got it figured out...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] umaro:
I'm not convinced that HAVS is very useful, and have read reports of people not being able to boot HAVS kernels.

I do think that there is a lot more potential undervolting that can be done for some people (my G2 will run 768mhz at 875mV instead of 1025mV, for example). I'm working on an app to change frequencies on the fly, as one-size-fits-all-devices certainly won't work with voltage changes.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xboarder56:
seems like amazzinglarry is permant banned from xda :( wow i cant believe this all for trying to get his point across and question a dev about something and have him explain :(

you can reach him at the cm forums as stevo

Updated Kernel will be up tonight

From: Larry
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] waydownsouth:
I agree, there is a lot of conflicting information as to its worth/benefits, but, you don't know if you don't try... :)

This is true, I lowered the voltages further in my current build with no issues so far.

EDIT: found the vdd interface, wasn't looking in the right place
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] poochie2:
In case anyone its interested I must say that with miui gb I have not seen a single wake big with this or pershoot's kernel, does anyone know why could that be? I recently set up Setcpu so that it will use only the highest clocks for every voltage (excluding voltages present 3 or less times in the table, and it's working wonders.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheNewGuy:
Here is a Froyo Kernel made from Pershoots git-hub. It includes all the original governors and has swap enabled...And is OC/UV to 1.804 with all freq. from 1.5-1.804 set with a voltage of 1375... It seems stable enough for me....except for 1.804... I will play with the voltages some more and try and patch in some more schedulers and governors...So I will post an updated kernel in a few days..

Hope you like it...:)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KCRic:
So what in the world did PoXx get disabled for? Man, the mod's on a roll lately - like some sort of kernel nazi or something. Here comes my ban now too, I'm sure:D

Anyway, great job to everyone else for keeping this kernel up and alive - will continue to test and report back more as it progresses. By the way, when is this going up in RM, any plans for that?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] eviLutions:
I tried this and I get lower Linpack scores and my Quadrant score seems the same as pershoots original. I was assuming to get higher scores since its clocked higher.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
My guess is because he was Larry but I'm not sure how they could prove that... if the bans were really unwarranted... I could talk to the G2 mod. I know a couple senior mods who have helped me out in the past with stuff plus being here since the dawn of time will help a bit. You should get a warning before a ban though. I'm just not sure if there is more to the story or not...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
Hey! Nice work! Everything works including USB/wifi/adb (with cord/and wirelessly)/bluetooth/ and wireless/wired tether... not bad at all!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheNewGuy:
Thanks! I am testing a version now with even lower voltage settings.. It seems stable so far.. I have a feeling that the voltage could be lowered quite a bit for a lot of the lower clock speeds... If you are interested in getting test versions for FROYO you can get me on gtalk at gethermc@gmail.com.. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] brzgw:
I used to have a mytouch 4g, Faux had a smartass governor in his kernel, it was amazing with battery life and performance. Is it possible to have it on G2? I wish I had the knowledge, so that I could contribute.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheNewGuy:
yes it is possible... there are several people developing exactly such a kernel as we speak.. :) I am Sure they will be posted when they are proven safe/stable... ish.. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] brzgw:
ohhh such a good news. u made my day :D. thank you
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] yogi2010:
hi, I was also wondering if G2 kernels are able to dip down to 100 mhz at rest? my Epic 4G kernels were able to do that(I had no problem with waking), and that combined with undervolting and such yielded great battery life.

also, is the conservative governor an option on G2 kernels? that seemed to also work well. thx!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheNewGuy:
conservative governor=yes that is included in my froyo kernel and I believe it is in AmazingLarrys kernel as well....

As far as going down to 100Mhz I am not sure... I am testing with froyo now to find out just how far down the G2 can be undervolted/underclocked... maybe someone else has some more information...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] yogi2010:
awesome, thanks! I am running your Gingerbread kernel, so that's why I asked about the conservative governor. the kernel seems VERY fast with CM 7.0.2, I am just trying to see if I can get even better battery life.

both Samsung Android phones I have used have the Hummingbird processor I believe, and did great when I set them to 100 min. some people said their phones had trouble waking up from 100, but I never experienced that. let me know if I can help, i'd be happy to test it out.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] yogi2010:
also, not to overwhelm you, but on the Epic we now have kernels that are compatible with the Voltage Control app. this means that we(the user) can select how much to undervolt each frequency, as well as which frequncies are to be used! fun stuff!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] qzfive:
You'd/someone would need to compile a kernel that has a frequency that low - I once compiled a kernel that had 122mhz and 184mhz and it seemed to work alright - didn't notice any battery savings because I didn't use my kernel for too long because I had undervolted it a bit too much and couldn't be bothered to find the perfect undervolt :P

(I managed to run 122mhz at 800mv and 184mhz at 825mv - YMMV)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] yogi2010:
ah ok, cool :) my know-how is limited at the moment, but I am slowly picking stuff up. it would be fun to compile one for use with Voltage Control... that way people could find out what their own phone could handle. I guess this is not to say that that app perfectly simulates an actual undervolted kernel, but it seems to work ok.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] waydownsouth:
A lower freq doesn't necessarily mean better battery life... even with UV

The processor would take longer to do anything and the active governor would probably end up raising it to a faster frequency anyway.

On my last ph 122 Mhz seemed to get quite laggy when waking up from sleep.

There is an interface for undervolting on the fly, just not one that works with that app... (Im thinking this is by design)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] qzfive:
True that... I didn't really see an increase to battery life, so I just scrapped my kernel and went back to Pershoot's kernel from ROM Manager - also, when using On Demand, or even Conservative, it was rarely below 245mhz anyways.

I've since went back to the 1.72 stock Sense ROM, and might try undervolting a kernel as much as I can sometime again, and when I can find out how to actually compile a Sense kernel :P
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] yogi2010:
thanks for the dialogue and info guys! I just flashed this particular kernel and will continue experimenting with it. I just got my G2 2 days ago, and am LOVING all the custom goodness available..... thanks to all the great developers here!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Carphedon:
Is there any progress on further updates? I really liked this kernel but it does not function properly with xboarders ginerbread/cyanogenmod rom anymore.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theSpam:
Considering that Larry's been banned, is there another location where he is publishing his kernels?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lainvalenajr:
Larry was banned?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MikeChannon:
Thread locked at Larry's request.

Mike

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[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erea77:
I am selling my g tablet tomorrow morning and I want to remove all me personal data before I hand it over.

I am running vegan 7.0 and when I went to privacy and wiped device, it rebooted and didn't remove anything at all.

Any ideas on how to keep vegan 7.0 on it and wiping my personal data?

Thanks,

Eric
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pr_capone:
It would seem to me like you would simply wipe the sd card and reinstall the vegan rom.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erea77:
That's what I decided to do. Thanks!
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebadfrog:
Wipe data/Factory reset in cwm then partition to 2048/0 in cwm.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] roebeet:
Early feelings, keep in mind -- I've only used the device for a few hours.

- IPS screen is wonderful. Beats out the Xoom and it's the first thing I tested. I don't have an iPad(2) to compare it with, but if my R10 is any indication the screen is probably similar to an iPad, at least the screen angles and color balance. Yellows are yellow, not a bluish yellow.

- 16:10 screen is the best screen for comics. Yep, I'm all about comics. Superior to an 4:3 screen (sorry Apple).

- microSD card actually works. Moto, you reading this?

- ASUS Reader supports epub. Drop them into the ebooks folder, and they "just work" (assuming no DRM, of course). Give me a night mode and this would easily replace Aldiko for me (and if there is a night mode, I just haven't found it yet).

- When you force Portrait mode, the power button is on the top. They got that right, they could have just as easily screwed that up, but they didn't. And I like the power button on top vs. in the back (Xoom).

- Speakers sound good, and are not in the back. :)

- It's aesthetically pleasing. I like the ridges on the back and the edges. And brown is almost a welcome change in a world of black and white. It LOOKS good.

- It's US $400 for the 16GB device. That's the most important thing of all. Remember, the Viewsonic GTablet was $400 until recently and that doesn't have a GPS, an IPS screen, a 1280x800 screen, 1GB of RAM or Honeycomb support (although it does have 32GB onboard). And the 32GB Wifi Xoom is $600. I think some of these tablet makers will need to take a long hard look at their price points as ASUS is about to alter the tablet market.

Is it perfect? Nope. I hate the proprietary cable, the lack of a real AC adapter for charging, the lack of a full USB port on the tablet itself, the problematic video playback (so far), and of course Honeycomb itself needs some work. And, unlike an iPad or even a Xoom, accessories are non-existent right now and even the dock and the device itself is as hard to find as an iPad2, right now. But, time should correct at least some of these things. I think this thing is going to fly off the shelves and today's insanity was just a taste of things to come - assuming some major defect doesn't manifest itself, of course. :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stcardinal:
I don't trust a lot of people but I trust Roebeet.

I'll be mainly using my TF to read comics as well, so the 16:9 screen seems like a winner.

Robebeet, can you post some more screenshots of internal comic pages on the device? Also does it take a long time for the pages to load or to turn the pages?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Visual360:
I totally disagree!!!

Well, until I get my hands on one, and then I'll get back to you. LOL. For now I'm just enjoying the Xoom, and poking with the Gtab.

We'll see...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] donatom3:
16:10 not 9. Just didn't want people confused. I think 16:10 is going to be better when using thumb keyboard of swiftkey beta for tablets.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] iAndroidFan:
Great job!

One question,does it have backlight bleeding problems?

Thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dotpro:
Thanks for the information dude, glad you got yours. :)

Question:

The MyLibrary app, when its in landscape mode, does it auto double-page (like a book) or you can select single page (zoom in, etc. while in landscape)?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jimbob1971:
Roebeet,

Are you the guy who did custom ROMs for the NI ADAM? If so, do you think a different ROM would allow playback of high profile video, or are we doomed to forever have to convert them beforehand?

Thanks!

PS- I love the ASUS too. I sold my ADAM (ah, dear of PQi screen) and my iPad 1. The only thing I'm missing is AirVideo frankly.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
Question: what do you mean by this?

Thanks,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Albaholic:
Normally I loathe proprietary cables as well, but I don't think you can knock them for this since it charges at a higher voltage than standard USB can accommodate.

That said... I think Asus would have a winner if the rest of us could actually get out hands on one.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] rndll:
How is the gps? I'm thinking of selling my xoom for the transformer if it matches the xoom wifi's gps strength or better.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] roebeet:
It's still not as fast as I'd like, but it's because of the apps I use, NOT the device. I have yet to find the perfect cbr/cbz reader for Android.

The Xoom is not a bad device - but I didn't like some of the design choices and, at $600 for the 32GB Wifi, it's about to be overpriced. I think Moto is going to need to drop that by at least $50, very soon

The GTAB , Adam and Xoom have a separate AC port. So, I can charge it and connect it to my PC at the same time, with the USB cable. You can't do that with this tablet - you'd need the dock to do that.

It becomes annoying very quickly as you have to basically put the device aside and charge it. It basically forces me to buy the (non-existent so far) keyboard dock.

So far I haven't noticed any - I do have a stick pixel, though.

Correct. The GTAB is 16:9 and is too long for comics. And 4:3 (iPad, and my R10) is too wide. 16:10 is the sweet spot for comics reading.

It auto double pages - I don't see an option to change it (that's one bad thing about the app - very few options. I just wish it had a night mode. But it is FAST).

More pics:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] bleclair:
I got mine yesterday... Very pleased so far.

1st, the screen is awesome. Absolutely destroys the Xoom and Galaxy Tab. The iPad screen might be a little better, but not much. It's lighter than I expected, and the build quality seems really good to me. I know some reviews commented on it, but just think Asus netbook quality.

When I first started the device it already had an update. Not sure what it fixed. Very speedy using the web browser. Tried a few apps, then downloaded the game Samurai II which I had seen in some Honeycomb YouTube videos. Signed up for the Amazon App Store. Much nicer than the Marketplace, although it is a lot better than when I used it about a year back.

So far I'm really liking Honeycomb. I think this tablet is totally worth the $400. Can't wait until I get my hand on the dock. I put in a 16gb microsd and it works perfect. Also really happy there was 12gb+ free on the device from the start...

EDIT: Very disappointed Zinio isn't available on Android yet. I thought I read it was.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] bobcatuk:
I purchased a USB 3 Cable that has the correct amount of pins needed to be used as an extension cable (Male to Female) with the Asus charger, so with a 2 meter cable i can now sit on the sofa with it plugged into the charger to get full charge whilst using the transformer.

Saves having to put it down close to a power point to charge it with the silly short cable that it came with.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] combat goofwing:
Do you have. A link for the cable please

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