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[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] elpicard:
I deleted the saves points with their passwords and now its working again, so far...

so, my new question will be, where are those files store (wifi points cfg)? in which folder?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattRussNC:
While there are many how to threads on pretty much everything, theres not much going into deeper details. While ofc any of us wishing to learn has google and can find many answers, its just from here the the answers mean a little more. My fear is, my self included, is that there are many of us with misconceptions on some of the inner workings or just bad knowledge. Just to be clear this is to clear up exactly what some of the terms we hear and use actually mean as well as some of the practices.

For example

Regarding Odin

How many partitions exist on the internal memory, and what are there functions.

What exactly does the PIT file do.

What all does the TAR file contain (full package) and how does it write to the partitions.

What is the csc option?

What else should we know about odin?

Why has nobody removed the phone option for our purposes here?

Voodoo, exactly what partition is it changing and how is it actually converting.

Which cache is used for what and where is it stored?

Just some things off the top of my head that i don't have a complete understanding of and wish to learn more. Again for this thread at least i am looking for some details from people that actually do understand. There are many of us that can spew out answers to these and more that are just close to right without a full comprehension.

This is for learning and not just getting enough to get you through a problem as im sure many of us are guilty of :rolleyes:
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phonefiend:
I found the same problem when I first got into Android but this is more a forum for developers who know what they are doing.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imnuts:
There are I think about 10-11 partitions on the internal storage. You have /system, /data, /cache, /dbdata, modem, bootloader, secondary bootloader, kernel, recovery, there is a partition dedicated for OTA updates, and another one as well, though I'm not sure what it is for. There may be more as well.

The PIT file is the partition information table, which tells Odin where each partition starts/ends.

The TAR file can contain any of a number of items for flashing, and they'll get flashed to the appropriate partitions based on their name.

factoryfs.rfs=/system

dbdata.rfs=/dbdata

cache.rfs=/cache

movinand.bin=/data

param.lfs=the .lfs partition, not sure exactly what it does

boot.bin=bootloader

sbl.bin=secondary bootloader

modem.bin=modem/radio/baseband

zImage=kernel

recovery.bin=recovery kernel

Adding a md5 sum to the tar file and renaming it to .tar.md5 allows for built in error correction.

Not sure what csc mode is, but I've never seen it used, so I'd avoid it.

Odin is a tool created by Samsung as far as I'm aware for flashing their phones. No one has the source, or knows exactly where the tool came from, so that is also likely why no one has removed the phone button, because you'd have to HEX edit the executable to remove it, and there is no telling what effects it may have, so it's better to just leave it alone.

Voodoo converts the primary partitions of the phone, /system, /data, /cache, /dbdata. It converts by backing up the data to a file, reformatting the partition, then restoring the data from the file. If it didn't backup the data, it'd just be formatting the system.

Cache is similar to a temporary storage area for files that are created and used frequently/semi-frequently. The files there aren't fully needed, but help speed up the system.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattRussNC:
Well I do believe I would have to argue that most people that visit this forum knows what they are doing. While a great many here including myself that knows enough to get by, we would all be better off knowing more. Also since this is q&a forum I thought it would be a good place to ask and learn more then "how do root"
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattRussNC:
Had no idea there was that many partitions. What was the reason that radios couldn't be flashed to the proper partition along with everything else? (as in why we always have to flash the modems on thee own)
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imnuts:
No one is completely sure how to flash a full modem file via recovery, and it may not be possible without using stock recovery. The only tried and true method that is know for flashing full modem.bin files is Odin (and Heimdall), so that's why it's always a separate step.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phonefiend:
I think you misinterpreted my post. I'm just saying I also was looking for the same information you want but it didn't seem that the people in the know wanted to explain all the details you're looking for. It seems in your case someone at least tried to answer some of you questions, which is great.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imnuts:
People are much more likely to answer questions when they're posted in the correct section. You also tend to get questions answered if you join IRC and ask things, but don't expect to get everything handed to you, there is likely to be some work/searching on your own part as well.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattRussNC:
Thank you for the answers to those first off. My apologies if i placed this in the wrong section, i thought this part was open for these types of questions.

Im sure irc is a great place to learn a great deal, however i fear asking in irc things that have been discussed many times. While searching will absolutely give you a very basic knowledge it is often repeated from those that don't fully understand it and may have it a little off. This isnt a cut at anybody as it should fall to the lower tiers to answer to the common issues that arise. However that kind of information is normally only good for solving a problem. For when there is no trouble and one wishes to know more about what they just did instead of how they did it, things fall short. Just about every member here can root, cwm flash, and odin but how many of us truly understand the process in detail. i know i dont, but i would like to. Thats what im looking for in this thread. Not how to do what we do, but whats taking place underneath.

Thanks again for the answers so far.

if this is in the wrong area and doesn't getting removed please let it fade.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phonefiend:
You're right about IRC being the place where questions may be answered. As far as searching, I can tell you a lot of the technical details aren't answered here.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imnuts:
This is the proper place for questions. The problem is that many people will post their questions similar to this in the development forum, and that just gets the thread no where. And searching for technical info is difficult because usually you get flooded with useless stuff in your search.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragonblade02:
I was wondering some of those terms my self.

thanks for all the Great info,

:D
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattRussNC:
One thing been bugging me lately. Most likely every one has experienced the need to either wipe the caches more then once or flash multiple times for success. How is it that wiping cache is not 100%. Why does flashing a rom more then once sometimes yield different results when done the exact same way?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jk0l:
i believe the phone button in odin is to flash radio/modem alone

which we unfortunately do not have (yet)

the phone button and other buttons are still there because the gsm ones, like the captivate and vibrant, are using it
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] landshark68:
I've only flashed the modem/radio by itself in the PDA button like everything else. As far as I know, we only flash things for the Fascinate through the PDA button (except of course for the atlas v2.2 PIT file.) That includes ROMs bundled in an ODIN package, modems/radios, and recoveries.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imnuts:
The phone button is for completely different devices, likely their regular, non-smartphone, devices. It is not meant for flashing anything for the Fascinate.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattRussNC:
Could have found a better place i guess but this will do. Noticed we are still without a FAQ aside from the outdated one as well as the guide. I thought perhaps some discussion on what should be included in a FAQ was in order to fill the gap.

Simple basic guides are important and have there place, however as one can use links to more details there is no reason not to have a comprehensive guide.

Just a thought. Most of us know the basics of what root is and how to gain that access. Most of us also has no idea exactly how get root manually without following instructions either. So what i was hoping for in the next guide

Q= What is root ?

A= Super user access needed for apps that need more control over your device like titanium backup

For more information click here

Then give the full out dev definition including the details that require reading up to understand. For those that want to learn.

Q= How do i root ?

A= Flash this package in odin (and give the dl link as well as a odin guide link)

For more information click here

Have the full process laid out by what needs to be done in shell without giving the copy and paste instructions. For those that want to understand what they are doing more than just doing it.

Just thought it would be nice if our next guide could be useful to more then just beginners.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sanpsa:
Are there any tricks to change phone make and model so that incompatible apps could be downloaded from market?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] evilkorn:
Yes, you can change the build.prop file or use market enabler, the latter being for carrier specific applications I think.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] zousoum96:
Can someone upload the stock backup and restore.apk because i upgraded to 2.3.3 and now i dont have the app and when i go to m.sonyericsson/backup i got an error page.

Thanks in advance
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] adoldrol:
Here is the original backup & restore stock 2.1 SE apk.But i think it doesn`t works in 2.3.3. rom. Sorry for my english.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] zousoum96:
Ok i will try it
[General Questions and Answers] jimniceguy:
This may be a stupid question, but I don't really understand what to do - OP says to apply my regional baseband files before upgrading my stock 2.2 to SMBR.. ok, but I live in Poland and on Dexter's site there is not such baseband... What do I need to do? Install the one which is closest to me (Germany in this case)?

I'm confused.

I'm asking here, cause I have just registered and it doesn't allow me to post in development forums...
[General Questions and Answers] jimniceguy:
*bumpbump*
[General Questions and Answers] jimniceguy:
um.. bump? hello...:(
[General Questions and Answers] jimniceguy:
*bump* /10char
[General Questions and Answers] jimniceguy:
*bumpbump* /sigh
[General Questions and Answers] Twirl126:
I would go with that one, and then try to reconfigure to your own purposes.
[General Questions and Answers] jimniceguy:
How to reconfigure it? I'm completely lame in that sort of things...

Back in the days when I have choice, take Milestone or Desire - I chose the first. Now Desire has 2.3, I run 2.2 (finally, after one year of waiting!) and I just want Gingerbread on my device, because it clearly states that if given device runs 2.2, then it will run 2.3 as, or even more, smoothly..

And thank you kindly for your response, I thought I would never receive any...
[General Questions and Answers] munky-head:
Try sending the OP a private message. From my experience, they were kind enough to reply promptly.
[General Questions and Answers] jimniceguy:
*resolved*
[Android Themes] Downr@nge:
Of all the widgets and apps I have, this one BY FAR is the most indispensable to me. I am ready to start fresh on my EVO and any theme or customizing I do, I want HTC News & Weather to be on the home screen, possibly the lock screen as well.

Has anyone done this? If so, please point me in that direction!
[Android Themes] Downr@nge:
Anyone? I can't find the answer anywhere else.
[Android Themes] digitalcoder:
Yeah there's one, Google for transparent genie widget. There's a themer with a blog (ultralinx? I think) with it.
[Android Themes] Downr@nge:
^^^ You're the best! All that time I was searching for News & Weather. You could imagine how many results I was getting lol.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ADeadlySpoon:
Hey everyone

I'm having troubles with various things while in a call, I've managed to fix a few, but there's one I'm stuck on.

The in-call mic volume is very quiet on my part (ie, my voice is very quiet).

I'm wondering if there's a setting somewhere that can increase the sensitivity of the mic on the phone? If so can someone please help me sort it?

Thanks guys. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ADeadlySpoon:
Bumpy bump?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ADeadlySpoon:
Anyone? This is something I'm having a lot of trouble with. :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agnivo007:
Might be your network or hardware (mic) issue... Why not try a different operator simcard with good signal or visit the service center? Or even some dirt or lint blocking the mic hole?

Ah, the custom ROM you're using can also be the culprit. Try official ROM and see if you have fixed it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] indyjonesUK:
Hi all gonna replace my HTC Desire its been great and I am keen to stay with this size device. What would people recommended? The LG seems good but its froyo and I don't really want to go back from gingerbread. Currently running vanilla gingerbread so be happy if I can just run that. Also I tend to flash different roms now and again so a good scene on here would be great.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mabdk:
Hi mate,

i've got the LG Optimus 2X (P990)

Amazing phone - so fast - and Gingerbread will be released for it in a month or so.

Another great thing about it is that it actually handles 32GB microsd cards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] indyjonesUK:
Thanks,

What is the battery life like? don't suppose you had a desire beforehand ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mexx0312:
I would take the Nexus S, pure Google-Phone - 4", similar to Samsung Galaxy S.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TeK9samurai:
I own the Desire HD, 4.3" screen but amazing once you put a custom rom on it.

I would definitely look at something with the dual-core Tegra chipset.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] redbullcat:
Phones with 3.7 - 4 - 4.3 inch screens that are available now:

HTC Desire S (the successor to the original Desire). (3.7 inch screen, like orig Desire).

HTC Desire HD (successor to the HD2 (runs WM6.5), but runs Android).

Samsung Galaxy S (what I have right now).

Samsung Galaxy S2 (only available in Europe right now).

HTC Incredible S/HTC Droid Incredible 2 (in USA).

Motorola Atrix. (has Motoblur, and locked bootloader, meaning no custom ROMs yet).

Samsung/Google Nexus S (no MicroSD card slot).

LG Optimus 2x/LG G2x (in USA).

Sony Xperia Arc. (one of the thinnest smartphones avilable).

Sony Xperia Play (PlayStation certified).

Or the new HTC Sensation, which is what I'd like, but it's unreleased right now.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] corsairsa:
Don't forget the

HTC Glacier (aka T-Mobile myTouch 4g) (3.8" screen) (in USA)

I've got it and it does everything I've ever needed to do with it even though I haven't gotten around to rooting it yet.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epauldc29g:
Hey,

Is there anyway to change the default keyboard in VEGAn-TAB GingerEdition to something that is not split into 3?

Thanks,

EP
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Djapatos:
try gingerbread keyboard

find it in the market download then go on setting check the box
[Captivate General] Haloruler64:
When I got my Captivate, it had 3 button combo. I flashed back to stock with Odin One Click many times, and it still worked. Even after MIUI and CM7. I just flashed Torch 2.03, and I don't have it anymore... it doesn't work no matter what I do. I flashed the special stock ROM with working 3 button for now... but how did Torch kill my 3 button combo and how do I permanently get it back if I had it?
[Captivate General] jhernand1102:
Look in the zip package and see if there is a sbl.bin, I think that is what overwrites the 3 button combo on some model versions.
[Captivate General] Haloruler64:
No sbl, ROMs usually don't flash that. I just don't get it, it worked perfectly, through MIUI, CM7, and KB1, but after Torch it doesn't work.
[Captivate General] megatronisabeast:
Is torch based on GB? If so using odin can cause problems.
[Captivate General] Haloruler64:
I897UCKB1 ROM, 2.2 official Froyo for Captivates.

Also I tried, standard 3 button, and the ones for Gingerbread (even though it isn't) just in case, I tried every possible combo. I've always done it easily, since July.
[Captivate General] jhernand1102:
When you flashed the 3 button Odin package you got your 3 button combo back right? Then you flashed torch again and you lost it? I think you will need to pull the fixed sbl.bin out of a working ROM and place it in the torch package to get it back.
[Captivate General] Haloruler64:
I had it, flashed Torch and lost it, and got it back with the 3 button stock package. I refuse to flash Torch again... I don't want to lose it. Anyway most ROMs don't flash sbl.bin.
[Captivate General] jhernand1102:
Well DG's uses a fixed sbl.bin with his ROM's so people won't loose it. You can pull it out of his and put it in torch and it should work.
[Captivate General] Haloruler64:
Oh, really? Cool.

I didn't want Torch to begin with, I just wanted to play around with it. I just posted here because it's scary having a ROM kill your combo.
[Captivate General] modest_mandroid:
Try flashing Cog 4.3. If I remember correctly, all the cog roms include an sbl.bin with a working 3 button combo. Once you have a working sbl, don't flash roms that include their own sbl and you should be fine.

Also, be aware that flashing sbl can brick your phone.. like, permanently. So, once you have a working sbl in place, I'd keep bootloader flashing to an absolute minimum.
[Captivate General] Haloruler64:
Thanks for the advice. I have a working one using the 3 button stock package at the moment. sbl is in the updates folder in the zip?

I'm just upset that I had a permanent 3 button combo and it's somehow gone. I really enjoyed being one of those people with a permanently working combo, being able to flash to stock and stuff.
[Captivate General] TheBassman369:
My Cappuccino has had problems with the 3 button combo since I flashed a Gingerbread ROM.

CM7 Inspire 4G
[Captivate General] Shammyh:
So there are only three reasons that the button combo can go away:

1 - You inadvertently flashed either sbl.bin and/or boot.bin at some point, or if you use Odin 1-click, your copy is corrupted, as all of the 1-click's will flash both sbl.bin and boot.bin.

2 - Something horrible has gone wrong from a software standpoint. Nothing in Android SHOULD ever be able to touch the SBL or BOOT partitions, but it doesn't mean it's not possible. A "bad program" of some sort, running around with root access, may have accidentally corrupted something, which is causing your problems. More likely, you had an incompatible version of Clockworkmod running at some point, and that screwed with one of those boot partitions.

3 - Your device is developing slash has developed, a hardware problem. Either causing some corrupt sectors in the boot or sbl partitions, or perhaps even at a lower level. Could be something as simple as a few bits got corrupted, and it will never happen again, or it could be indicative of more problems to come.

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To fix it, I would simply flash the "3 button combo fix" that is floating around these forums, and see if that helps you. If you have a pre version 1010 Captivate, and were lucky enough to always have the 3-button combo working, simply flash back to the stock 1-click JF6 and that should fix all your problems.

If neither of those work, then perhaps there is a more serious hardware problem developing, in which case, I would replace your Captivate while it's still under warranty.

And PS, I would refrain from flashing boot.bin and sbl.bin updates from CWM. Yes, I know everyone seems to think it's safer, (though errors in file copy can happen just as easily and as undetected as in an ODIN flash), but I've quite literally re-flashed my boot.bin and sbl.bin via 1-click hundreds of times without bricking. Just make sure your cable is securely attached to both phone and computer, and that your girlfriend, cat, roommate, pet dinosaur, etc are kept far away from you and your computer while flashing. I say this because if something has already going wrong, CWM style flashes may not completely fix the problem. Whereas ODIN style flashes (either from the standalone ODIN, or via 1-click) tend to have more power to "overwrite" whatever has gone wrong. I'm sure many people will disagree with that, but hey, I've been flashing and screwing with my Captivate for some 7 months now, "soft bricked" it more times then I can remember, but have never had a single problem that couldn't be fixed with a nice stock 1-click flash.

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Hope that helps!
[Captivate General] Haloruler64:
I haven't actually, Torch killed it and it doesn't have an sbl in it. Flashing back to stock always kept 3 button combo, even though it flashes an sbl that people without the combo need to avoid.

Nothing new on my phone really. CWM is for i897, also used CM7's CWM 3.0.0.5.

Very possible.. hope not.

I did get it back with the proper sbl, it worked. Nothing serious.

I didn't know you can flash an sbl from CWM before today, scary. I know how dangerous it is.

I've used One Click since July or so, it's always worked perfectly.

Well I really appreciate the help man. I am ordering a JIG already, just in case. Never thought I'd need one. I mean, I guess it isn't a big deal, not having a permanent 3 button combo.
[Captivate General] ryude:
Torch doesn't flash any bootloaders, it can't possibly kill 3-button recovery.
[Captivate General] modest_mandroid:
Usually, yes. If you're going to remove it from roms that have it, make sure you also remove the line that flashes it in the update script (META-INF/com/.../update-script)
[Captivate General] Haloruler64:
I know it doesn't, I checked for it. But I got into recovery to flash Torch, and after flashing it I couldn't gt into recovery anymore....
[Captivate General] ryude:
There are other ways your bootloader can get corrupted. I understand you're upset, but you shouldn't immediately place blame on my ROM.
[Captivate General] TheBassman369:
No, Torch wouldn't have done it. At least it's an easy fix.

CM7 Inspire 4G
[Captivate General] Haloruler64:
I didn't blame it, I simply provided info on the situation. I never said "don't use Torch."
[Captivate General] 1tontomato:
I had a similar thing happen when I flashed fusion 1.8 I have no clue how it happened my button combo was just gone. To fix it I flashed the three button fix but that didn't work it so I flashed another kernel which threw my phone into a boot loop, but suprise my button combo worked again, so I just flashed another rom on top of that and have been good to go ever since never touched odin. I guess my point is these things happen and I don't think well ever know why.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
[Captivate General] TRusselo:
QUOTE OF THE YEAR!!! congrats!

edit the title thread.

its not a question. its the answer everyone has been looking for!!