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[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
Little stat: if all 2425 people who signed this go elsewhere instead of buying the desire s htc will make £873,000 less (£698,400 ex vat at 20%)
[Wildfire General] HappyPelican:
I've already signed but wanted to say thank to everyone who is involved with this. My first and only smartphone is the htc Aria. I loved mine so much that my husband got the same phone. Once I rooted them, I was sold on android. Of course stupid me upgraded mine and lost root access. It's crazy how much better my husband's Aria is than mine. Needless to say, I'm counting down the days until I can get a new phone unless HTC changes it's policy. :(
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
Thats ok
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
3,000 sigs!
[Wildfire General] :
That was just in time. Now 3177
[Wildfire General] :
Share these everywhere .

pls share these links everywhere. As said in that topic, "Education is the key to winning this war".

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HTC Bootloaders and NAND

http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/

Rooting Android: The War Between Carriers and Consumers

http://androidspin.com/2011/04/11/rooting-android-the-war-between-carriers-and-consumers/

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[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
600 in 24 hours. not bad but not the 1k it was over the weekend (although it has been a workday)
[Wildfire General] imlgl:
I hope it gets featured on sites like phandroid and engadget. That would really grab HTC's attention.
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
Well feel free to tip them

Btw android police didnt want to feature it (still a good site though)
[Wildfire General] gogusteliade:
so someone sent a mail to htc about this and the reply was something like this "......Thank you for contacting HTC support regarding your HTC Wildfire.

I understand you are enquiring about the locked bootloaders on our handsets.

The reason we have locked bootloaders is due to the amount of repairs we have to service, as other ROMs damage the phones.

It is for this reason we no longer allow other ROMs to be installed on our range. ......."
[Wildfire General] imlgl:
Well maybe the ought to fix their repair centers. 5 weeks and still waiting for my phone.
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
HTC UK have said via Facebook that they are aware on the repair issue
[Wildfire General] imlgl:
Thats what they told me, then they said they had a backlog, they then sent 7 escalations which after 2 weeks I get told they aren't responding to.
[Wildfire General] ErwinP:
That is realy a bullsh*t reason. Most of the time the device gets "broken" in the process of gaining root access: your doing things to pieces of software that aren't meant to be treated this way, so of course this is risky and dangerous. But if they would unlock there hboot and make it softwarematicly more easy to install new ROMs (or at least don't make the process more dificult then it is), then no acrobatics should be applied, and the chance of a brick is significantly lowered.

Of course the phone can get broken if the rom is badly developed and, for example, fries your cpu. But designing ROMs is something only people with more-then-basic knowledge can, and no such person would that stupid.

You can compare it to computers: no computer can get harmed by installing a new OS, even tough there a a lot of linux distributions available, and everyone can modify its own distribution if they want. The only thing that can happen is that you lock yourself out due to compatibility problems, and in that case you just re-install the original OS.

Finaly: if they make it possible to read out the memory, even i case of a total brick, they can see if the phone's software is changed and in that case they can simply say "sorry, but we don't repair your phone".

Why don't they just admit that they do it to make as much money in the most possible short amount if time. They would gain my respect to be that honest in staid of treating us like idiots.
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
Try calling their UK head office
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
How come Sony, samsung, Motorola and even apple don't have this excuse with modified devices
[Wildfire General] MrPontus:
YAY!!! one small step in the right direction.

press, Like and maybe add a coment

http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
[Wildfire General] aaho:
I posted the grouble link to them yesterday and after that a real fire started about bootloaders and everyone spammed thier wall about bootloaders. Today just few min ago they said something about "reconsideration". Lets see what comes up.
[Wildfire General] :
Yaa i can see the number of comments over facebook there.

What i observed earlier is , htc via facebook is interacting with the customers (who don't know about rooting) regarding photos taken by the customer's phones.

It's like Ohh..! This is a fantastic pic.. Which phone have u taken it with..? The answer by customer will be --- with my lovely desire.

What i felt on seeing those comments is, they are trying to maintain relationship with their customers (mostly noobs) and act like they are responding to the customers needs. If they had an opinion of responding to the customers properly, then they must not make the customers wait for months (regarding warrany purpose). They are acting very smart.

And due to the groubal, noobs are getting aware of the issue. And now htc can't believe the rooting related spams on their wall even by the noobs. That is the reason they responded on the issue. Now they will think about it....

And let us see the motorolla one. Why is the delay to unlock the bootloader even after the official statement. Suppose if a developer works on rooting it, then it will take lot number of days and there is meaning in that. And motorolla are the ones who locked it and they must be knowing how to unlock it. Are they just bluffing their customers with their statements. How long can they do that. Will htc follow the same thing. Let us see .........
[Wildfire General] curiousGeorge:
Totally agreed -- was thinking of getting the Sensation or Evo 3D, but not anymore. Not unless this is changed. I convinced all of my smartphone-owning friends of the same. Sign this petition, please, and spread the word.

You can even contact HTC directly (email, facebook) and tweet about it (with links).
[Wildfire General] Mipery:
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150305151453084
[Wildfire General] gogusteliade:
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-were-reviewing-our-policy-around-bootloaders

it's getting big....
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
It's on engadget. Still keep signing to keep the pressure up on HTC
[Wildfire General] eyecon82:
this is BLOWING UP on facebook..just look at their page...yikes they are in for a PR nightmare
[Wildfire General] linuxcrash:
Guys, it seems we have some progress here with the bootloader campaign! HTC announced on facebook to rethink their bootloader policy and that it might get different for the bootloaders in the future. We have made a lot of noise throughout the new pages!

See slashdot story:

http://slashdot.org/submission/1607316/HTC-responds-to-user-anger-over-signed-bootloaders

Keep on spreading the words and continue to send emails to all available HTC personal!

Will get the unlocked bootloader soon :-)
[Wildfire General] jonhyxda:
I really liked this to happen, but I do not think is possible.

Still going to sign.

Keep spreading the word.
[Wildfire General] :
HOPE IT SHOULD WORK......

And i request everyone not to take rest on seeing their official statements (like what happened to motorolla groubal).

GUYS, KEEP SIGNING AND KEEP THIS PROCESS UNTILL THE DEVICES ARE UNLOCKED.

And we are nearing to 5000 signs (now 4995 signs).... Keep sharing everything related to this.
[Wildfire General] zer0ak:
Got a new reply from HTC and it seems they still not aware of us.

Dear zer0,

Thank you for contacting HTC Support.

I understand you are unhappy with the locked boot loader on our latest devices.

Rooting the phone may open the phone up to virus attacks and other unsecured activities, as well as introduce unintended functionality, and as such is very difficult for us to support and repair.

As I am sure you can understand, when you purchase any of our products you automatically agree to our terms and conditions of our warranty, unlocking of this boot-loader is in contradiction to the terms of the warranty agreement - should you wish to put a custom ROM on the handset this will automatically regard the phone as Out Of Warranty. Should the phone need repair, this will no longer be covered and a quotation will be issues for such repair.

The reason the boot loaders have recently been locked on our latest handsets is due to an increasing amount of our customers experiencing issues with their devices, once they send their phones to our repair centre they do not understand why they have been charged for what seems to be an In-Warranty repair.

We apologise for any inconvenience caused by this, but we do this to bring you the best experience on the phone possible.

I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.

I hope that this information meets with your requirements, should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again. If this response has resolved your query, and you have no further questions please close this ticket by following the link below. Upon closure of the ticket you will be invited to complete our Customer Satisfaction Survey which should take no more than 1 minute to complete.

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11NLCW22ENA000263.

Sincerely,

Olga

HTC
[Wildfire General] zer0ak:
I getting tired of HTC think I sell my phone and get a Galaxy S2.

And never again HTC
[Wildfire General] kishoreks:
Wow!!!! crossed 5000 Mark... i hope we will overcome Motorola's count of 9K+ very soon.
[Wildfire General] :
---Rooting the phone may open the phone up to virus attacks and other unsecured activities. OK i agree with that. Does that mean that there are no virus attacks for an unrooted phone. And are the antivirus solutions meant only for rooted users. And does the virus attacks cause damage to the harware. Come on htc do u think we r kids to expect software support from u even after rooting. Even if someone asks u to get solution for a virus attacked phone, what u will say. U will just say to format the phone. Is that a highly technical solution.

---Then coming to the next, terms and conditions of htc warranty. They are now saying that, unlocking of this boot-loader is in contradiction to the terms of the warranty agreement. Is there any point of bootloader in the previous warranty statements (in may 2010) of wildfire. I strongly doubt that.

And who is asking them to give support to the rooted phones (sorry if anyone of u r asking). I personally deserve to loose their support by rooting the phone. This is not like supporting/unsupporting under the warranty. This is like forcing the users to stick with their crap. It should be upto the user whether or not to root his phone voiding the warranty. And i think, everyone who knows about rooting also knows that rooting voids warranty. And is there any description of any rooting process without saying that rooting voids warranty. U can hardly find that.

---And the last thing is also a crap. Because as already said, almost everyone who does rooting knows that they are not under warranty. The truth is they are failing to give proper support to the customers and are covering it with lies.
[Wildfire General] elconejito:
Can I ask, I wonder why phone manufacturers don't sell a "closed" and an "open" version of the phones.

For example, Intel sells a chip with a locked multiplier (Core i5 2500), then also sell the exact same chip with an unlocked (to a point) multiplier (Core i5 2500k) to the "enthusiast" market for a price premium. I'd gladly pay a little premium of maybe $50-75 for a more "open" device that still gets a warranty.

Alternatively, assuming the warranty is for software AND hardware defects, I'd pay less for a hardware only warranty that is unlocked.
[Wildfire General] :
never mind......
[Wildfire General] zer0ak:
They must leave it open source so people who are looking for it will use it and regular phone users they dont care if it is now locked or unlocked they buy a smartphone and use it as a normal phone do nothing more lol

I got a buddy of mine he buyed a HTC desire only that I had one without internet just use a pre-paid sim only and even dont use wifi so he dont care about his phone and will never look into it.

But give the wizz kids the open source so we can dig deep into our phones.
[Wildfire General] djordje_rosic:
Great progress guys!! Keep up the good work, ive been spreading the link as much as possible and will continue to do so, KEEP IT UP!!!!

I love the sense of unity ive seen from this community, not just from this but from the forums and android device owners in general.

Hoping all works out in the end,

Djordje
[Wildfire General] zer0ak:
I think HTC will stay till end this year or even next year with locked bootloaders and once they realize their sales drop they release it open.
[Wildfire General] djordje_rosic:
Yeah but heres to hoping right =/ but that sounds just about right, sad thing though, theyre such a good company compared to many specially crApple........

Oh but its a great thing ive been following the groubal numbers of the people whove signed the petition and its growing pretty quickly at a relatively steady pace, probably by the end of today the number should reach 7000....maybe even more! =D
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
That would be good
[Wildfire General] imlgl:
Just seen it featured on phandroid also. And they linked to the petition so thats cool :D

http://phandroid.com/2011/05/24/htc...oader-policy-can-we-really-make-a-difference/
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
Jeez I cant wait to get rid of this ****ty HTC ROM. Stupid me installed RUU over root not knowing what will happen.... Im stuck with it for almost 6 months now.
[Wildfire General] ErwinP:
Yeah well, you're not the only one regretting that, but it will teach us! The hard way indeed, but it wont happen to us again.

To be honest, I think that unlocking the wildfire trough a changed policy of HTC is not very likely.. but I do beleve that they will change the bootloader in there future phones.. eventualy :-) And I'm hoping that it will have happend by the time I want a new phone. In my oppinion htc is one of the best smart phone poducers in terms of quality and design, but my next phone will be a rootable one. And if it can't be a HTC, well, so be it.
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
Make that 3
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
My Wildfire is like this now.... CAGED! We want freedom for our phones! :@
[Wildfire General] djordje_rosic:
HHAHA love the image mate! hahahahaa
[Wildfire General] :
Yes the android community needs to be united always to fight for its freedom and to make these kind of impossible things possible. Im pretty impressed with the support we have got from everyone.

The signs crossed 6000 (now exactly 6088). This is the 1st time we have got 1K signs in 12 hours. I think we need another 48 or 72 hours to hit the 10K margin. Keep sharing .................
[Wildfire General] linuxcrash:
featured on a major german IT page:

heise-online.mobi/mobil/meldung/HTC-reagiert-auf-Petition-fuer-Bootloader-Freigabe-bei-Android-Handys-1250114.html

spread the word.
[Wildfire General] eyecon82:
Everybody should contact HTC and let them know you feel respectfully

Mark_Baker@htc.com Senior Director Enterprise Business Unit Americas

Cher_Wang@htc.com Chairman

John_Wang@htc.com Chief Marketing Officer, HTC Corporation

Keith_Nowak@htc.com Senior Public Relations Manager at HTC 425-679-5328

Fred_Liu@htc.com COO of HTC

HT_Cho@htc.com Board Member of HTC

Peter_Chou@htc.com CEO

Lotus_Chan@htc.com VP HTC

Horace_Luke@htc.com Chief Innovation Officer

Brent Groome, Chief Executive-Customer Operations, at 843-369-8393 or brent.groome@htcinc.net
[Wildfire General] f0xy:
Twitter update, HTC are to review bootloader policy...watch this space
[Wildfire General] :
That's what already said. Nothing more nothing less. They just gave the same facebook link.
[Wildfire General] Njamb:
...Signed...
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
if they dont unlock bootloader, i will NEVER buy htc phone again, but hey, if they do, i still wont buy any htc again. why? because they have same ****ty design on every android phone until now, starting from nexus one to sensation! + locked bootloaders. i dont care samsungs are plasticky or se doesnt recieve updates, main thing is that they can be ROOTED, and you can update them as much as u want then. i think my next phone is going to be lg optimus 2x or sgs2. end of story, **** u htc, kthxbye :)
[Wildfire General] :
But i do believe the hardware by htc is pretty good. The only foolish thing they are making is locking the bootloaders with the highest level of encryption in recent days.

And BTW 6635 signs now.
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
i say ****ty because its old, its good generally but over-used. :)
[Wildfire General] Keralots:
... Signed!!! ...
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
Not far off 7,000 sigs!
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
BTW has anyone seen htc's facebook wall https://www.facebook.com/HTC (no account needed to view) - Keep up the good work!!! (oh and whilst you are there have a look at http://wakeuphtc.blogspot.com/)
[Wildfire General] PaulW21781:
Out of interest...

Has anyone tried using this script to try downgrade HBOOT instead of the Windows RUU Update util?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=711298

Download & extract the files, then download the following file and place it in the folder where you extracted all the other bits.

http://www.multiupload.com/X4VJVZA8UH

Make sure it's called rom.zip ! It's what was extracted from the RUU_Buzz_HTC_WWE_1.37.405.1_Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25_release_151892_signed.exe file, and contains HBOOT 0.80...

Then, open a Shell terminal, cd to the folder (eg, cd ~/openruu ), and then type:

sudo ./2FastbootFlash-Linux.sh

(there is no need to run any of the other scripts to be honest, 2FastbootFlash-Linux.sh pretty much should do it all)

This should then try to flash the rom.zip file to the Wildfire, duno, may or may not do HBOOT too, but it's a bit of an experiment to try really...

Those who aren't running WWE handsets (ie, those which were branded by network) may need to make a goldcard.

....

Duno, just throwing an idea into the loop...
[Wildfire General] sergeicapone:
hi sorry, but what do you think? h t t p://jaxov.com/2010/12/unlock-bootloader-root-nexus-s-on-android-2-3-gingerbread
[Wildfire General] rambo3889:
From HTC facebook:

""There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC"
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachmurphy:
hey everybody,

I recently purchased a wifi only galaxy tab (GT-P1010) and was wondering if i could flash GSM/CDMA roms to it. Has anyone tried it? I was wondering because there are only honeycomb versions for cdma and gsm out. Thanks
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tq745:
I'm really digging the beach live wallpaper. I live in Hawaii so I enjoy the ocean especially the beach...

get it here...much thanks to Rawat.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13167693&postcount=1
[T-Mobile LG G2x] diablos991:
Thanks!

Sent from my LG-P999
[T-Mobile LG G2x] allofusjw:
very cool, thanks for the link
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Bronk93:
Thanks for bringing this over!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] DatWalrus:
Awesome, thanks!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ThC23:
Won't download for me! :(

G2X
[T-Mobile LG G2x] diablos991:
Use a different browser.

Stock and opera failed me. But dolphin came through.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kirdroid:
This is nice.....thanks :-)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tsalate:
Thanks a lot.

Sent from my Intel Quad Core Ultra Super Amoled Plus NEC Nemesis...its a custom device.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] deadeye0908:
Sweet thank u.. looks real nice.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] hoostie:
I can get the windmill to work, but for some reason the beach wont load. I can preview it, but when I set it it goes back to the stock wallpapper. Oh well.

Cool none the less.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] TeldenW:
I too cannot get the Beach LWP to work. Not going to complain too much, the Windmill one is way cool.

I'd sure love to have both. Is there anyone that has the Beach LWP working on their G2X?? Wanna share any tips?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] crazythunder:
odd, i had the beach working fine on eaglesblood 1.04 froyo. but uninstalled due to how dull it looked. you'd think they could throw a few crabs in the sand,or a shark fin in the water or something. windmills however look pretty good.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] TeldenW:
When I go to the MediaFire link and click the ".apk" to download, it comes to my phone as a .TXT file! That's the problem. Its not an .apk file.

Do I need to convert it? Is that possible?

Sent from my T-Mobile G2X via Android XDA app.

EDIT - I have figured it out. After downloading the .zip file, I used my PC to change the file extension to an .apk file. Then I just loaded the file onto my internal sd and installed. It is now working just fine.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jonathan3579:
Beach works just fine on my stock ROM. However, I think the animations are ugly.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] skye206:
Thanks I love the windmill :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
Thanks. I use that wallpaper atleast one time a week.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Toll Booth Willie:
First, have to say flashing was not straighforward. I got errors when I tried to do it from ClockWorkRecovery as the instructions read. Followed those to the T.

Second, I ran the update using Kernel Manager from the Market. That pretty much worked, but my Xoom went nuts with FC's until I rebooted once more, then everything settled out. Hopefully this is helpful to someone else searching these forums for help as I was.

Now that things are stable once again, my only complaint is that I no longer have the charge LED lit up when the Xoom is docked or charging. I liked that, anyway to get that back? (Yes, I have googled and searched the forums already, I've seen a couple others mention the issue, but haven't seen an answer yet.)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
i've went through 4 xooms now. only 2 showed the charging indicator and only the 4rth was rooted. the 2nd showed the indicator the first time i charged it but never again. the latest xoom stays on all the time while charging..
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lordrainkm:
I believe the charging indicator is only supposed to work while the xoom is powered off and plugged in. I read that somewhere, mine works that way and my wife's works that way. Mine is rooted, hers is not.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackDino:
Correct

10char
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Handshake87:
I have only seen the charging light on when I have the Xoom turned off and I charge it. If I have it on and the screen "off" it get no charging light. I like ti that way.

But rooting, recovery and the kernel would in no way change if your light is on or not. It has to deal with files that the root and kernel in no way modfiy... so please do not say it is that fault.

Also the recovery process couldn't be any simplier. As long as you ran CMD as an Admin (if you are on Windows 7) there would not be an issue. It is 4 commands at most if you can't reboot it by hand :P
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KerryG:
Is 1.4.0 really a good daily driver? I am still on a very early build and dont want to risk any stability.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] serraguard:
Nuff said

Since I'm not cool enough to put it on the developer page (less than 10 posts), I'll put it here. Tiamat 1.4.0 rocks and thx for all the hard work! :D