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[Eee Pad Transformer General] Ryaninja:
Not sure if anyone has noticed this yet, but I noticed when cleaning my transformer that the capacitive screen still works even through thick tissues, so if you've just cleaned your screen and don't want to get greasy pawprints all over it again, wrap a tissue around your finger, and prod away! :p
[Eee Pad Transformer General] T3rry1:
I'm just gonna buy a matte screen protector, i ordered one that's made for the galaxy 10.1, i am sure it wont fit perfect, but it should at least cover the viewable/touchable area.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] EP2008:
Perhaps someone should design some capacitive-compatible "finger condoms" to work with tablets :D Awesome idea :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] T3rry1:
i am sure they'll work with normal latex finger condoms.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] EP2008:
Yeah, but latex won't slide as well as fabric or plastic ... unless you lube the screen first :D LMAO!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dotpro:
Well, I don't know about wrapping tissue around my hand to use the tablet... you could just get a screen protector FOR the transformer with lifetime replacements!!! :cool:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dcmtnbkr:
You would look a little strange, lol. What about a capacitive stylus? Or a sausage stick?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] akarol:
Horrible attempt at being funny. Please lock!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wilbur-force:
lol.... someones a bit grouchy tonight :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jinsoku3g:
Don't lock it. Always practice safely lol
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] captain-foivos:
In mh HD2 i have re-flash LEo70 rom and when i try to re-use my activation code then i get the message "The key is incorrect"

I know that the key is valid (i have use it 2 times before ) and typed correctly.

I did try this a lot of time but no joy ??

Any help please ????
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Neo XL:
I used my code more than ten times, without any problem. Call MS and try to get a new one. It will be no problem.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Starfury:
Let us know how you get on with this, as I would be interested to know. With the pending NoDo and Mango updates looming its likely we will need to re-flash from scratch and therefore re-activate... It would be a pain in the ass if MS have deactivated all the manually generated activation codes...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] ^^rac:
Typo?

I also used mine about 6 times now.

Still going, flashed different roms, and upgrade versions. Each time, i had to re-activate, my key is still going.....

I heared rumours that you can only used it 3 times, but does not seem to be the case...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Marvlesz:
I had this issue when I first activated my device. It happens when you enter an incorrect code and then enter a correct code. A hard reset from within WP7 resolved the issue.

Try to do it then report ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] mrmomba:
I have reflash my WP 7 Yesterday, too. Now I used six times my Activationkeys. I didn't think, that all Keys will be erease by Microsoft. When I think about it, i mean, that i havd read for a few weeks, that original HTCs musst be activiated to.

Sry for bad english
[Thunderbolt General] paladin732:
Has anyone heard from Verizon (or from speaking to CSRs) if they are going to be crediting us back a day (or more if this continues) of data or anything to compensate for the fact the network was down.
[Thunderbolt General] SDracis:
I know any time I have had data issues and asked for a credit, they always tell me since I have unlimited there is no way for them to credit the amount.. anyone else had any luck?
[Thunderbolt General] necosino:
Unless you're on a corporate account, I doubt they're going to do much and just say that this "slight inconvenience" will give you "more reliable, faster, and further extended coverage, so it was for your own good". lol
[Thunderbolt General] dbisch:
I doubt you're going to get credited. And if you do, it'll be what? Maybe $5? Yipee, you can go get a ****ing Happy Meal now.
[Thunderbolt General] mcmillanje:
Lol@you.

You want your dollar back? Go ask, I'm sure they'll just pull a dollar out of their pocket just for the lulz.
[Thunderbolt General] what25:
Doubt it. Unless you missed calls or had absolutely no signal, I really don't think they'll give you credit. But thats just my guess.
[Thunderbolt General] Drukan:
I dont want credit for the data.. i want something for the huge inconvenience this outage is causing me... Imma go ***** n see what I can get...
[Thunderbolt General] dbisch:
ZOMG my phone doesn't work! It's the end of the world! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[Thunderbolt General] killerkommotion:
You're on a site...for people who love their phones....Just sayin'.
[Thunderbolt General] Mega Man:
I complained to them this morning, and explained to them that I work 3rd shift and have felt this from the beginning. After rebooting multiple times, I thought my use of the LTE off radio app had messed up my radio.

I then factory restored and of course that didn't fix the problem. When customer service finally opened I called and explained my frustration and how they could of at least sent Thunderbolt users a text message that it wasn't on the consumers end.

She said that not every TB user is experiencing the problem, so testing everyone wasn't an option and that Google backed up all my settings (yeah right) so she didn't see the problem. I hope you all have better luck.
[Thunderbolt General] psufan5:
No, you still have data... you just dont have your LTE. I would laugh at anyone requesting credit lol...
[Thunderbolt General] xCHPx:
Skynet has now been activated...
[Thunderbolt General] dbisch:
I'm on the site because I like to tinker with my phone. That doesn't mean that I'm going to cry to Verizon the moment my phone isn't working and demand a few dollars for reimbursement.
[Thunderbolt General] lippstuh:
This is partly why Verizon charges so much. They have one of the best customer service for a cell phone company... and they have to pay all these people to talk to dumb and annoying people who expect credits and discounts left and right or people that ***** about everything.

But seriously, just do the fix thing and you'll be on 3g, good [temporarily] enough. Its not like 4g costs more than 3g, so without a price difference there's no way to get a credit to your account. If this lasts for a long time then maybe Verizon should do something, lets just hope they fix it soon.
[Thunderbolt General] monolithic:
I'm not saying one camp is right or wrong more than the other. But I am saying that I bought the Thunderbolt to replace my original Droid for one major reason: 4G LTE.

For the past 3 weeks that I've owned my 'Bolt, 4G LTE connections have been spotty and very inconsistent. I assumed the reasoning was any of the following:

1. Custom ROMs I've installed.

2. Custom radio I installed.

3. Custom kernels I installed.

At no point did I think it was because of Verizon's 4G LTE not fully "being there".

Now that we are experiencing nationwide 4G LTE outage, this paints a starkly different picture for me than what I had previously thought.

What I think is a fair resolution is for folks to be able to return their Thunderbolts and have their new-every-two reset (if they used it to purchase a Thunderbolt) if they live in an area where 4G LTE coverage was listed.

Whether this outage is a short-term issue or part of a series of long-term growing pains/headaches, I think folks who bought this phone for the 4G should either get 4G or have the opportunity to return the phone. That's fair in my opinion.

M.
[Thunderbolt General] tbtaf:
I have a slightly used Droid x I will gladly exchange for your TB.
[Thunderbolt General] jacobk:
im blown away by how many people think its unreasonable to expect verizon to provide that service that we all pay for. i guess we should all just bend over and take it like all of the PSN/PS3 customers, huh?
[Thunderbolt General] Topher227:
This thread is a joke.

If you are posting on this board, then i'm fairly confident that you don't deserve a credit because:

- You most likely temporarily turned on 3G (EVDO) data and are getting just about the same speeds as before

- You probably had your LTE radio switched off

- According to Verizon's policy, messing with these radios, flashing roms, etc... voids your warranty... and i'm sure they don't like giving credits for that.

In all honesty I can feel for the guy/gal who is stuck on 1X right now, while trying to tether so they can download their work mail.... they are the ones who deserve an explanation... and maybe a very small compensation. (what, $5?)
[Thunderbolt General] dbisch:
PSN has been out for more than a week. You can't access ANYTHING with their network.

4G LTE has been down for less than 24 hrs. You can still make phones calls and access data, although slowly.

Big difference.

I just think it's silly that people are crying to Verizon when it's been less than 24 hrs. Give them some time to fix it for Christ's sake.
[Thunderbolt General] l7777:
Ok, I'll bite. We pay ~$1/day for data service. So if we simplify and say that for one day things didn't work, then we should get a $1 credit. But data is not completely out. Only 4g data. Since you're not completely out of service, you're not entitled to the entire $1. We could argue all day about how much 4g data service is worth but in reality we can't complain. Data is still $30/month just like it was and still is for 3g customers. Now what exactly do you want a credit for again? Is it really worth it for you to waste an hour or so of your time to get < $1 credited to your account? VZW doesn't have a habit of long outages or treating customers badly so why does everyone want to jump on their back about an outage like this?
[Thunderbolt General] mAlfunkti0n:
Ill just add this reply.

ROFL
[Thunderbolt General] dbisch:
- even with EVDO on 3G isn't reliable or as fast as it should be

- nope

- it voids the warranty on the phone. not the service. it's already been confirmed by VZW that the outage is their problem.

i don't think anyone should be compensated yet. its been less than 24 hrs. and why should someone who has work email be compensated and not your average joe? they're both paying the same amount for the same service. your arguement is retarded.
[Thunderbolt General] dbisch:
can i have some of whatever you're smoking?
[Thunderbolt General] baaadandy:
Right? I guess I should call and complain requesting credit for not having 4G coverage ALL THE TIME. :D Plus it's right in the TOS that they do not guarantee coverage. Things happen - and with the reliability that V has I don't think people should complain, they'll fix it quickly. People just like to ***** and they think they'll get free stuff, it's the American way! :(
[Thunderbolt General] jacobk:
i never said that people should be calling verizon to complain, just that its unreasonable to jump down peoples throat who might feel that verizon should be compensating people for this outage.
[Thunderbolt General] jcase:
Dear XDA Users,

We apologize for the recent partial data outage. This is due to the recent acquisition of Verizon by AT&T, and our attempts at equalizing our networks.

AT&T Customer support
[Thunderbolt General] monolithic:
I really don't care about the immature LOLZ, etc. Grow up.

The fact is, this phone was advertised as a 4G LTE phone. Every time I boot it, there is a big, colorful splash screen that says 4G LTE in the bottom right corner.

Let me try and re-phrase this for the LOLZ crowd:

This current network outage is inconvenient and not grounds for any rash actions. However, if 4G coverage continues to be poor/spotty or a fair period of time in areas in which it was touted as being established, I think folks have every right to return their Thunderbolts this early in the game until 4G LTE service is more stable.

If Verizon can't get their 4G LTE network to perform, then I think it's fair to offer people a 30, 60 or 90-day return period at this early stage, rather than 14-day period.

M.
[Thunderbolt General] :
lol

everyone deserves a $1 credit

but also a $1 fee to help with repair costs

im on the phone now with verizon to ask for my $0
[Thunderbolt General] dbisch:
Did you expect HD-DVD owners to able to return their players because it didn't work out so well for them?

Come on man, your logic is so flawed. It's new technology and you take a chance by being the first to dive into it. Of course there's going to be kinks but that doesn't mean that because you're one of the first 4G LTE adopters that Verizon should suck you off everytime there's a problem. The phone has been out for a friggin month. Give it time.
[Thunderbolt General] lippstuh:
4G isn't everywhere yet. The places I go to have 4g and it stays on 4g 99% of the time. That's OC, LA, LV. I live in OC so I can say that I'm 100% happy with 4G. Its fast, really really fast. I get 25mbs down and 3-5mbs up. Its performing much better than I expected.
[Thunderbolt General] thailmore:
Shows how much i pay attention. I've been wondering all day why i was stuck with 1X. Sucks, but i'll deal. The big V has been good to me so far.
[Thunderbolt General] monolithic:
I think you're misunderstanding me.

>>I<< am not calling for anything yet. I am not asking for any type of compensation for myself.

I am however stating that if these 4G issues continue for a significant period of time, Verizon should allow people to return their phones.

I can assure you some douche-bag is going to file a class-action lawsuit. We all know that there are people like that out there.

M.
[Thunderbolt General] ben7337:
Is the thunderbolt not subject to the 14 or 30 day or w/e return period that verizon gives? If you bought the phone and it had bad service for 2 weeks straight, then you should have returned it. Otherwise it's your own damn fault for keeping the blasted phone, I'll gladly trade you my mint condition droid 2 global if you want haha.
[Thunderbolt General] RossLH:
I absolutely want my dollar back for not being able to play Words With Friends at work today. COME ON, VERIZON.
[Thunderbolt General] gatorbolt:
LOL is this whole thread for real? Everyone can still get 3G service. Asking for a refund for a minor inconvenience is straight up silly.
[Thunderbolt General] SmokingPope:
I don't see why a thread like this engenders so much outrage and criticism toward people that want to be credited for their inconvenience/dissatisfaction/whatever. I'm not going to call because the 30 minutes (best case scenario) that it would take for me to get back the $1 isn't worth it to me, but I can't say that it's not worth it to others. Regardless of this being new technology there is an expectation that it functions properly and a near 24 hour outage certainly doesn't meet that criteria.

It's OK if it's not worth it to you. In that case neither you or I will be calling. But, for those that feel the need, go for it. I suspect that many of us work for big companies and understand that companies are only motivated by their bottom line. If there are enough people being credited $1, maybe VZW takes note and does more extensive testing before the next big technology is launched.

There's no right answer here, each person here will make a value judgement and do what seems best for him/her.
[Thunderbolt General] mcmillanje:
The customer agreement you signed says data speeds are not guaranteed everywhere or at all times.

Also, as far as bottom line goes, more customer calls over stupid stuff = more reps hired and call centers built = Your Bill Goes Up to keep the bottom line.

Also: living without data is not a "huge inconvenience." Having your house carried away by a tsunami is a huge inconvenience. Having you're whole livelihood destroyed before your eyes is a huge inconvenience.
[Thunderbolt General] jmin9012:
After finding out about the outage from here on xda, I called verizon to complain in hopes to get a credit. A little advice, ask for tier 2. They have more power to do things than the other reps. The tier 2 rep told me to call back in when the coverage is back to get a credit.
[Thunderbolt General] daniel178:
I called and they did credit my account. Just saying.

It took all but about 3 minutes.

maybe it just depends on who you get.
[Thunderbolt General] krusty46:
I *****ed once in about 7 years of being a Verizon customer because my service was down all day and they gave me a dollar credit. That was for my 3G coverage. I will probably do it again tomorrow as well.

Last month when I went over my text plan, Verizon surely charged me the dollar overage fee. Texts are data, they shouldn't even be charging to begin with.

I can tolerate a few hours, but this is pushing 24 hours.

I also don't recall Verizon offering me the "##778#" information when I called twice to complain about being stuck in 1x. They left it up to me to fix my own phone. They'd probably tell me I voided my warranty by going into the settings anyway if I told them what I did.
[Thunderbolt General] flat4inrc:
Verizon has always bent there back over for me -- when I have had issues.

I am not mad at all that I am stuck on 3G right now. Hell, they are investing tons of money into something that gives me the ability to be YEARS ahead of the competition.

I would probably pay $50 a month for the service, but I dont. I pay the same amount as the other less fortunate people and don't you guys think the reasoning behind the price being $30/month is due to the fact that there are kinks to be worked out in the system.

If you really think the service is terrible, go somewhere else.. please.. that gives me more bandwidth to run 30down/5up through a f*cking cellphone for christ's sakes... geez, people will ***** about anything.
[Thunderbolt General] razorz:
Really? You people need to find something better to do than call customer service for a miniscule credit to your account.

These are the same people you hear whining at McDonalds about their $.99 burger not looking or tasting like fillet mignon and demanding a refund after they have already eaten it.
[Thunderbolt General] weiln12:
The frustrating part for me is that Verizon isn't telling us how to get 3G. They just expect me to live on 1x until they get 4G fixed. Now, how they have a setup that can't even pick up Rev A when eHRPD goes down is beyond me...I mean that's just pretty dang basic.
[Thunderbolt General] mcmillanje:
Telling people how to is probably more trouble than its worth. Imagine all the nuked Sims they would have to replace if they told everyone to go in there and mess around with settings. IMHO I think they are handling it well, updating us all on twitter etc...
[Thunderbolt General] ERIFNOMI:
No, I only get 1X. But it's only thunderbolts. My friends who have a Droid X and Droid Eris sitting right next to me earlier today had full 3G
[Thunderbolt General] razorz:
Its really not an issue, I was still connected to my Exchange server all day and received emails. 1x is still faster than dialup.

As for Verizon telling the average end user how to switch to Rev A evdo that is just silly.
[Thunderbolt General] daniel178:
Can't get 3G for some reason. And yes, I tried the "fix." Still stuck at 1x. Phone is in the middle of NYC.
[Thunderbolt General] cruehead:
it might only be a dollar but its my dollar Jk is it really worth the time to call for a buck
[Thunderbolt General] daniel178:
took me about as much time as it did for you to write and post that message. at least I got something in the end.
[Thunderbolt General] CPCookieMan:
Honestly, if you want faster data, connect to a wifi network. Really, all of this fuss over this? And anyway, whoever said texts are data, text messages go over the short message service (SMS). The SMS operates over the same networks as voice. On non-lte phones, it disabled data for about 2 seconds to send the message. Unrelated, if we have any news on Voice over LTE, please PM me.
[Thunderbolt General] Mega Man:
As someone who has been credited over $800 by Verizon over the span of 3 years for things that were their fault with overcharging my account multiple times. I pay over $130 a month with my employee discount when I don't have any fees, and I know their testing plans are ridiculous for such small bytes of data, it really should be included with any unlimited data plan.

So I won't hesitate to complain to a rep over something that is Verizon's fault. Heck, some of the reps that I speak with are so tech clueless, Verizon should pay me for teaching their employees about their job and the frustration of after educating them, having them assist me from their end.

And the frustration is what I want to be compensated for. Not for the outage itself. I get it, things like this happen, especially with new technology. However, having to wait 5 hours for CS to open, and then be told that I should factory reset my phone to fix the radio (which of course didn't fix it and added much more frustration). I want to be reimbursed for "that". If they would of even just sent a text message to all TB users and said "some, but not all customers with your device may be experiencing 4G/3G network connectivity issues we are working to get this resolved ASAP". Most of the frustration would be gone, because you would know it isn't your new TB, but just the towers.
[Thunderbolt General] azturbomini:
What does you being over charged and credited have to do with the outage?
[Thunderbolt General] mcmillanje:
+1

I think that post says more about him/her than Verizon.

I think people on highway 405 owe me big time for all my frustration on my commute. Oh! And I deserve super compensation for all my frustration learning Japanese. Maybe I'll call Japan and complain their language is frustrating.

Oh and road workers should hand out dollar bills every time a car passes b/c they delay people while maintaining our roads.
[Thunderbolt General] azturbomini:
AMEN!
[Thunderbolt General] MrLoompa:
I called and got my credit. Sure its pennies. Thats not the point. The point is Im paying for a service that I didnt recieve. So im not paying, even if its 2 dollars. Everyone can do what they want. you wanna pay for no service, then pay. I for one dont buy into the corporate fleecing of consumers. Its about principle not money. But I dont fault anyone who pays, go ahead and do it.
[Thunderbolt General] Hyper4mance2k:
This is Verizon, not T-Mobile. T-mobile would credit everyone. LOL! Too bad those days are numberd.
[Thunderbolt General] azturbomini:
I made and received 73 calls today with not one issue on 1x. Texted 12 people, checked my voicemails, emails and a couple of websites along with GPS. Sure websites took a minute to load but they did and I got the information I needed. I got home, connected to my wifi all was good.

I would like to run a poll on what everyone's age is, live at home or not and your profession along with single or married. Just to test a theory. The people that are wanting a refund or got one fit into the category below. It's about how a ****ty 1st shooter gaming person can be :

whaaaaaambulance What should be called for when little *****es are whinging over stupid things, commonly found in first person shooter games online, such as Counter Strike, when the whiney little ***** is doing rather badly, they will tend to accuse those who kill them of cheatingm rather then admit to themselves that they just plain suck.

I Rest My Case.
[Thunderbolt General] thailmore:
I'm a 30 year old, full-time soldier, married, with 5 kids. I'm not gonna ***** about a day or two of service degradation, although I don't even get 4g here, so I guess the point is moot.
[Thunderbolt General] azturbomini:
Thank you for your service. My son is enlisting next year.
[Thunderbolt General] feedhead:
Offensive & thus reported.