yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
That CANT be right. Im gonna convert back to rfs when i get home and give it a shot...but if i pull more than a 2475 on quadrant @1 ghz......ill buy an i phone.

ok well maybe not an iphone ill just stay on rfs.
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
I love this guy!

(nohomo)
[Captivate Android Development] jjtitus098:
So I am finally getting some decent battery life on GB roms after flashing 0.2.1. So smooth, fast, and just sips the battery life...
[Captivate Android Development] kennonk:
I get the same Quadrant scores ~2000 with Talon 2.1 on both RFS and EXT4.
[Captivate Android Development] vercro:
Which tweaks do you have enabled? OC'd at all? I can't get above 1000 with both RFS and EXT4.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Just use the kernel defaults for the Tweaks (only noatime and sdcard tweak) the rest are useless and/or breaks things, such as the swappiness tweak will break swap/zram, and its recommended to not use swappiness tweak, as well as the conservative governor, Ondemand is better performance and battery wise...just best to use the kernel defaults, we have set everything for a reason
[Captivate Android Development] pewpewbangbang:
Edit: nvm figured it out
[Captivate Android Development] golfslicer:
Running talon 2.1 using rfs clocked to 1200 and get a score of 907. How you guys getting 2000?
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Don't know why some of you have low scores, I usually get 1800-2000 and then 2400ish + ,with stagefright enabled ... Make sure there's no sdcardfix or ramhack scripts (darkys) in /etc/init.d/, if there is delete them and reboot, either way, those scripts are not good

Plus remember that quadrant sucks really bad, and if something is syncing or running in the background it will throw scores off by alot...This best way to benchmark is Linpack (for cpu) and Antutu is a pretty decent benchmark to test multiple things..but either way, quadrant is unreliable ...I can run it 5 times in a row and my scores be off by 500-/+ each time
[Captivate Android Development] golfslicer:
How you getting above 2000 in Quadrant. I flashed 2.1 converted to rfs from ext4 and now get 900 - 1000. Also running at 1200. I got 1900+ on ext4?
[Captivate Android Development] golfslicer:
I running Continuum 5.5, do I have the following in etc/init.d

S01ssctl

s02edt_perms

s08zipalign

s99complete

S_volt_scheduler

Do I delete anything there?
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
No, those look fine...Continuum doesn't include the mentioned scripts. I thing DAGr8s roms do..not sure about the rest.

But I was on Continuum 5.5 earlier today and was scoring about the same as I do now (1800-2000)..
[Captivate Android Development] golfslicer:
I enabled stagefright as you stated and my score went to 1701 on rfs, now thats better. Are you using SetCPU to set the thing to 1200 or leaving it at 1000. Second run went to 1900.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Im at 1.2ghz, I use to use SetCPU (for a few diff reasons, 1.governor selection, 2.can monitor swap with it)..but now Xan released VC 4.0, which includes governor selection, so i mainly just use it to oc/uv..etc.. still use SetCPU sometimes to monitor a few filesystem/memory things
[Captivate Android Development] golfslicer:
Thanks for the quick reply. Very helpful. Are there in special settings in voodoo control that are beneficial, is there a save feature in voodoo control. I am converting back to ext4 to see if there is a difference on first boot. Last quadrant on rfs was 1774, so it gets between 1700-1900 on rfs. After converting back to Ext4 I get on 2440 on first run and on second run I got 2617 wow. Maybe it had something to do with converting to rfs and then converting back to ext4, oh what a difference.

Here is my settings in Tweak

SD Speed Tweak

I/O: No a-time

Media Stagefright

SetCpu set at 1200 on demand and set on boot

I can't seem to get voodoo control to save settings after a reboot?

The only thing I use is headphone amp, the rest is whatever it installed with.

Linpack 16.017
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
About wifi. I noticed that if I'm not connected to a network, it turns on and off with no problem. W when I put in my network password, it turns on, then reboots before showing available networks or attempts to obtain ip from my network. Hope this helps
[Captivate Android Development] golfslicer:
What are your router settings, phone won't connect to Wireless N

Wireless mode should be AP

Wireless Network Mode BG mixed

Wireless Security

WPA Personal

and WPA Alogorithims TKIP and AES works for me.
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
The phone will connect, after reboot.

As far as not connecting to N speed, it should. Its rated for N speed (check owners manual).

Not sure about security protocols, never really noticed.
[Captivate Android Development] golfslicer:
Yea, your right, I forgot that I have other older phones that won't connect on N.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Just an FYI, Xan released VC 4.0, also we can select states again with this version (just click the big green/red circle to the left of the frequency) ...also checkout Control Freak by shane87 ..both now have governor selection
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
So far I am very happy on the 0.2.1 kernel with Continuum 5.5. The Talon splash screen is pretty bad ass. This is way smoother using rfs. I am getting close to 5.5 mbps dl and 1.5 up. I have not experienced the charge or wifi bugs.

Sent from Gingerbread on a Captivate using XDA Premium App
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Its ok. Our Captivates are so awesome, its hard to keep all the greatness in our memory.
[Captivate Android Development] stojkov.matt@gmail.com:
0.1.7 r2 works great, but i get stuck in a boot loop on 0.2.1

Any help?
[Captivate Android Development] ghost77:
Things that don't work with Talon kernels. Would be nice if these would work one day. Untill then sticking with darkcore kernel.

Droidwall - firewall.

Application Protection - lock individual apps with password.
[Captivate Android Development] shane87:
Hey, just wanted to let everyone know that I am working on a new release for Control Freak. It will add deep sleep TIS info display, and TIS percentages. Me and aalh are testing it right now, so far so good. If it stays stable for a day or two, I will be putting it up as cf 0.4b.

ROM: Perception II beta 3

Kernel: TalonDEV 0.1.4, Voodoo Sound v8, Voodoo Color, CFRoot ext4

Modem: I9000 ugjk4

HW Build Number: 1101
[Captivate Android Development] steph2:
I can confirm all kernels have the wifi bug i tried em all as well
[Captivate Android Development] p1gnone:
reflashing 0.2.1 may do the trick.
[Captivate Android Development] p1gnone:
point a noob at benchmarking software..Linpack,or Antutu?

doh, MArket
[Captivate Android Development] Endoran:
+1 I had a boot loop after my first flash. I immediately reflashed and it booted up fine.

EDIT - I'm on obsession ROM as well...if that matters at all.
[Captivate Android Development] p1gnone:
Reflashing seems to really do it all. Helping a friend last week with a 'new' $50 refurb'd Captivate I ran into a blockage. It rejected update.zip in Recovery mode for both rooting, and adding CWM2. So AT&T is trying to block root/ROM activity these days..

So I flashed Eclair 2.1 to ...Eclair 2.1 via ODIN ! The lock was off and I soon had phone running Continuum5.4.1 .

Moral: do it again until you get it right..
[Captivate Android Development] Nerz:
i tried to install this on mosaic iii because someone posted earlier that it worked fine. using odin 1.3 I got a boot loop. any reason this happened? not sure if it's a random fluke or what. i installed by putting the tar file in the pda spot of odin.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Try reflashing
[Captivate Android Development] Nerz:
i tried reflashing kernal through odin, it was a no go. so im on cw3 i of course installed continuum. to have a working phone again. i like continuum but i love a theme i was using with mosaic. although now that i type it i wonder if the theme was the reason? i could odin xcal's kernal to get cw2, then install mosaic. dunno if installing that theme will make a difference but of course i couldn't install this kernal and then the theme of course because of different cw :(
[Captivate Android Development] johan8:
cifsmanager not work in GB anymore:(

Hi existz,

NFS is good if talon support it !

And is it possible to support exfat / ntfs as well, so we can store files bigger than 4GB with big microSD.:p
[Captivate Android Development] Reynaldinho111:
What the hell are you storing thats bigger than 4gb!? lol :p

Sent from my beloved Cappy!!

Rom: Phoenix Mosaic III

Kernel: eXistZ TalonDev 0.2.1

Modem: jv3
[Captivate Android Development] msapi:
+1. Had to flash 0.2.1 twice to get to boot. On Continuum 5.5 btw. :rolleyes:
[Captivate Android Development] johan8:
Same here, 0.2.1 not boot.

reflashed the whole phone but also stuck in bootanimation.

Work fine with 0.1.7-t20

My rom is i9000zsjv5
[Captivate Android Development] johan8:
An ISO image, or XXX movies :p
[Captivate Android Development] Reynaldinho111:
Ahh, all is clear now. Existz help this guy out already!! ;)

Sent from my beloved Cappy!!

Rom: Phoenix Mosaic III

Kernel: eXistZ TalonDev 0.1.7

Modem: Trying JVK
[Captivate Android Development] kodos96:
Have these problems been reported previously? If not, some logcat output and a detailed problem description would be helpful.
[Captivate Android Development] sfernandez:
After u flash reboot in recovery and clear caches..an that will work
[Captivate Android Development] nrgaway:
Oh good its just not me... I was wondering why 'App Protector Lite/Pro' stopped working when I installed this kernel tonight. I even tried reinstalling it ;(
[Captivate Android Development] harpo1:
Did you just try reinstalling the app without data?
[Captivate Android Development] johan8:
Tried but didn't work:(

need to go back to 0.1.7

converted to all ext4, quardant got 18xx (even score doesn't meaningful)

but my phone is a little lag,

and those tweaks in tweak app won't save after reboot.
[Captivate Android Development] lownox:
eXistz... I reported in IRC about wifi not reconnecting. False Alarm: wifi polling time is extended... I guess I just didn't wait long enough. All is well this morning when I tested it. Also... no reboots for wifi or bluetooth here. Thanks for all your hard work.
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
Holy freaking crap.

Charge bug seems to have truly been fixed with 0.2.1. Both caps woke up at 100 and went to 99 after unplug. One started charge at 89% and the other at 11%.

Excellent!!!

Going to test and report back the next couple days as well. Looks like a winner to me so far tho.
[Captivate Android Development] Spidious:
Works better on rfs, got laggy on ext4....

Sent from my Captivate running on Mosaic III
[Captivate Android Development] rahlquist:
Thats exactly the thing someone said to me, so I started flashing at random charge levels and then started having all kinds of battery and charging issues. If someone is waiting for 100% you shouldn't discourage it LOL.
[Captivate Android Development] -Thrive-:
Wifi reboot

I have not had the wifi reboot issue since upgrading to 0.2.1 but have not been able to get BT to stay connected. I switched from JL2 modem (which I use because of loud clear calls) to JK4 to see if BT would resolve and suddenly I'm getting wifi reboots. Switched back and so far no reboots. Leads me to think that wifi reboot is modem related. I also can report that the charging bug appears to be gone with 0.2.1.

I love this Continuum 5.5 Talon 0.2.1 EXT4 combination. Super smooth and fast and good battery life. Great job and thanks to everyone involved!
[Captivate Android Development] blutruck:
Wifi Reboot and Bluetooth problem starting up

I have just experienced the reboot problem. Using JVO modem. Bluetooth and Wifi were on. Wifi shows it was connected but kept getting connection errors when trying to run market, Facebook etc. Turned both off and rebooted. Turned Wifi on after reboot and it connected and market opened. Tried to turn on Bluetooth but would not start. Turned both off and rebooted. Turned Bluetooth on after reboot and it started and connected. Turned on Wifi and it rebooted. Tried again to see if it wasn't a fluke and the same thing happened.

Basically if Wifi is on and connected Bluetooth will not start. If Bluetooth is started first then try to start Wifi it reboots.

Running Mosaic III Diet

Talon 0.2.1 ex4

JVO modem
[Captivate Android Development] slayp00n:
Hey exists, loving this and 1.72, however I must say battery is still good on 1.21 but noticeably higher drain then 1.72.

Thoughts?
[Captivate Android Development] santosh134:
Thank you existz, I really appreciate your work.

Everything works great except, my Bluetooth. Its timing out.
[Captivate Android Development] slayp00n:
Also want to say, anyone getting quadrants < 1500 or saying rfs is smoother...

You have done something horribly wrong.

EXT4 Is the best filesystem ever created, period. It is the leader. Also, many of us on ext4 report 1800+ quadrants, if you have to revert to rfs or get low quadrants or laggy performance something is fundamentally wrong.
[Captivate Android Development] IDoMy0wnRacing:
I may still have the charging bug.

It looked good yesterday at 97%, this morning is was at 75% :confused:
[Captivate Android Development] Vivified:
yup, pretty sure it's still around and apparent on all ROMs/Kernels.
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Everything peachy thus far. Unplugged @ 97 after 8 hour charge

Sent from my 2.3.3 Ext4 Fresh Ginger Blue equipped Samsung Captivate. Yea I get 2000+ on quadrant. Yea ive pulled 5.17 mbps down from a tower. I appreciate XDA helping me turn this phone into a beast.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Make sure the app doesnt depend on logcat, if it does you will need to enable logcat ... some apps out there depend on it, so just type logcat-enable in a terminal emulator and reboot..
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Update: file system verdict.

We all know quadrant sucks. BUT. You can tell when theres a big difference. Pitted rfs vs. Ext4 back 2 back three runs after clean reboot. Results:

Rfs 1400 1674 1738

Ext4 1787 2391 2469

Anyone saying rfs benchmarks better may need a reflash

Edit* stagefright enabled clocked @ 1 ghz

Sent from my 2.3.3 Ext4 Fresh Ginger Blue equipped Samsung Captivate. Yea I get 2000+ on quadrant. Yea ive pulled 5.17 mbps down from a tower. I appreciate XDA helping me turn this phone into a beast.
[Captivate Android Development] bamonkey:
lol there is some debate on the ext4 vs rfs today i see. we absolutly CANT use quadrant as a benchmark.. there are just tons of reasons why it doesnt show anything right between the two and there are multiple devs who have explained the reasons why. that being said no one HAS found an accurate way to measure the difference other than plain "how does it feel". I like the immediate speed of ext4 but for some reason like others are reporting it seems to lag as times goes on *if you reboot your phone alot im sure this isnt a problem lol* Im really really curious to see if we get a verdict on this. for about 4 days now im on rfs and im mostly keeping with it to test its stability. Ill keep my eyes on this thread as im curious to see where this might go. back on froyo ext4 was champ but somehow on gingy things have been a bit out of the norm and im having to dump all my previous beliefs so i can focus on actually testing things.

edit: i have NOT switched back to ext4 since the new talon came out so in a day maybe ill give ext4 a go and see how it works over time again.
[Captivate Android Development] Holmes108:
A lot of us commenting on preferring RFS with this kernel/rom/android version aren't even considering benchmarks. It's real world performance and "feel".

I think most of us aren't even saying that EXT 4 is terrible, or worse than it was. Just that RFS is as good or better, and much improved over Froyo.

To say EXT4 (or RFS) is just "better, and that's a fact" is silly. It's entirely possible RFS is performing better now, for who knows what reason. And as with everything android and captivate related, it no doubt may vary from phone to phone.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Well i think i know why some of you think RFS is "faster" than ext4...was reading through hardcores thread and theres been alot of discussion on this, it seems when converting back to rfs, during the Backup-Format-Restore process, it is "unfragmenting" the filesystem... so just doing a simple backup, format and restore on ext4 would give the same effect...heres a few post from the thread... you can read through the thread and see the rest of the discussion... But im not saying ext4 is faster or rfs is faster...also, even if ext4 is about the same "speed" wise, its still a better filesystem, its more updated, matured, developed, less overhead, faster read/writes..etc..etc.list goes on and on..but thats just my opinion.. in the end its up to you and what works best for you

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14093250&postcount=727

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14097686&postcount=730

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14268661&postcount=829
[Captivate Android Development] Holmes108:
That's interesting. I'll have to read up on that. For now though, I wouldn't change because I can't possibly see my phone being any better. No lag is no lag, unless something changes. I personally can't say that RFS is "better" than ext4 right now, just that RFS runs perfect. EXT4 could only be equal.
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
a big reason 4 peoples preference to ext 4 is the fact that it is a linux standard file system. add to that better benchmark scores and me for 1 has noticed a slight smootheness edge to ext4 between the 2 and ext 4 is the preferred route. I shut my phone off every night to charge, the wife and kids are home sleepin with me so damn the outside world lol so cant comment on 4 days runtime. Also i notice rfs tends to stick while texting..typing is flawless on ext4 for me.

Sent from my 2.3.3 Ext4 Fresh Ginger Blue equipped Samsung Captivate. Yea I get 2000+ on quadrant. Yea ive pulled 5.17 mbps down from a tower. I appreciate XDA helping me turn this phone into a beast.
[Captivate Android Development] bamonkey:
+1 because i have this suspicion samsung did something to compliment their once buggy rfs system to work specificially for their source based code. no idea hence im interested. i may even try out darky new kernel that JUST came out which uses voodoo today just to see how it treats the ext4.. there is alot to consider right now and every person wants something different out of their phone. mine is battery vs performance and how well it can manage its memory after i use it heavily for the day *the later being a huge concern/problem for me right now*

edit: lol. on my journey to try out voodoo i forgot about the basic rules or filesystem conversion. i dont have my data cord at home soooo time to flash from scratch on my phone LOL! this is why i always backup every single day.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
But i want to stop this before it turns into an rfs vs ext4 war, we all have opinions, what works for one person doesnt mean it will work for someone else, thats why i always include as many options as i can for you guys to choose from... Was just wanting to point out that during the Backup-Format-Restore process (when going back to rfs, or whatever it may be), that it does seem to have a speed effect..which doing the same on the same filesystem, ext4 to ext4 (just backingup everything, formatting and then restoring) should give the same effect, atleast based on hardcores post... havent tried it myself.. We all have opinions, thats what great about android and opensource, this is why i included ext4, it may be better for some than others...just dont want this turning into a flame war..
[Captivate Android Development] Holmes108:
Agreed!

10 Char.
[Captivate Android Development] keitht:
Not wanting a flame war but switching back to rfs has yielded better results for me regarding performance. I never thought I would say that but it is real for me and I have used ext4 over rfs for over a year.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
But try converting back to ext4 and see if its not the same or better...as we was discussing above, it seems during the backup-format-restore process, its *unfragmenting* the fs, and giving faster results... that was the intended topic...but check a few post above...a simple backup-format-restore just on ext4 should give the same results ..atleast according to hardcore
[Captivate Android Development] bamonkey:
Well in other news i just destroyed some part of my bootloader:( none of the usual 20 or so things i try work so uuuhmm. back to jf6 stock and clean slate *its been like 4 months so this might end up being a very good thing for me who flashes new roms/kernels themes everyday...will also give me a chance to have no fragmentation which i am now VERY interested in*
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Actually had that happen before. Sometimes starting over is best thing u can do.

Sent from my 2.3.3 Ext4 Fresh Ginger Blue equipped Samsung Captivate. Yea I get 2000+ on quadrant. Yea ive pulled 5.17 mbps down from a tower. I appreciate XDA helping me turn this phone into a beast.
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
My last comment on ext4 vs rfs....

Ext4 will blow rfs outta the water once existz throws his tweaks into it. Anyone who remembers onix 2.0.5 knows what i mean...

Sent from my 2.3.3 Ext4 Fresh Ginger Blue equipped Samsung Captivate. Yea I get 2000+ on quadrant. Yea ive pulled 5.17 mbps down from a tower. I appreciate XDA helping me turn this phone into a beast.
[Captivate Android Development] Time_Zone:
So I tried to go back to ext4 but it wouldn't let me. Apparently all those force reboots by VC4 beta have corrupted /system. Going to try "backup - format - restore" on /system and then see if the conversion works.
[Captivate Android Development] nrgaway:
Existz,

Awesome, that worked. Now 'App Protector' works as it normally would! Thanks for the fix since I really was expecting to have to live without my app for a long time.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
No prob!.. but alot of "security" or "protector" apps require logcat, thats basically the only reason I include it in final builds and not just use debug on test builds, since alot of apps need it to work correctly...so just typing "logcat-enable" in a terminal emulator and rebooting on Talon will enable logcat until you type "logcat-disable"..
[Captivate Android Development] alexige:
So its as easy as opening the ext4 app and selecting convert to ext4 letting it boot to recovery and do its thing? Or is it more involved? I think I'm getting slightly confused on the process.
[Captivate Android Development] Reynaldinho111:
Omfg what a kernel that was! Cant wait for talon to get to that point.

Sent from my beloved Cappy!!

Rom: Phoenix Mosaic III

Kernel: eXistZ TalonDev 0.1.7

Modem: Trying JVK
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Simple as that, just go into the ext4 app, select ext4 and it will reboot and do its thing, then when it reboots you can go in the ext4 app to verify, or type "mount" in a terminal emulator
[Captivate Android Development] Soccer_Dad:
I agree - it's not a war. It is whatever works best on your phone, with your ROM.

For me, I was on RFS for a while (it just felt faster...) - scored a 2150 on Antutu Benchmark. Decided I had some time to test. Converted to EXT4 - new backup/format/restore cycle - and it scored a 2050. "Can't be right!". Ran again. Same result to within 1%. Converted back to RFS - scored a 2170 (within the error bars of the original).

So I'll be staying on RFS for a while, until there's some obvious change that makes me think there will be some benefit to EXT4. As always, YMMV.