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[Thunderbolt Android Development] jgrimberg1979:
I am sorry for what I am about to say, which I have said again and again.. I know there will be a bunch of flamers how are going to give me crap, but there is absolutely no Support for this device for cm7. Think what you want but that is the unfortunate fact. Everyone mine as well move to OMFG where the support and updates are plentiful! It is so frustrating to see cmī slowly fade away, each day the thread gets further and further down the page. From page one to page two, and even page three. Damn its sad and it sucks?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jr4000watts:
Time to grab the popcorn for this one
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ilovesoad:
You could have just used a shortcut. Cm has a toggle built in. Ha
[Thunderbolt Android Development] macdanif:
I'll bring the beer.... bump for drama
[Thunderbolt Android Development] :
I think once HTC finally drops the gingerbread source for this device things will pick up. HTC has been threatened enough now that they have gotten pretty good about releasing source fairly quick after a new release, which doesn't sound like it'll be long from now. Now is a good time for the maintainer to take a break. Maybe about the time he's able to tinker some more he'll also have fresh source to work with. Patience is key, and OMFG sounds like a good alternative to pass the time
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ilovesoad:
I just don't understand the many entitlement issues of people on here. Or my generation as a whole. Whatever. People just ruin stuff for the grateful of us.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] andrewc513:
Anyone else rub their screen just then...?

Relevant: http://androidspin.com/2011/06/27/htc-thunderbolt-update-coming-soon/
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bilbobrian:
Dude, all you do is complain that there is no support. I think its time for you to pitch in and take over. Oh you have no clue how to code? It will get more support, in the mean time shut up, take over cm 7 development or switch to a another rom. I get so tired of seeing these posts. No one here owes you anything dude. *****, *****, *****. :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ilovesoad:
That just cites the same droid life article based on hearsay from "an htc rep" who has absolutely no control over what big red pushes out.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bhilgeman:
I did haha.. What is that?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] PineTre3:
hahaha

10char
[Thunderbolt Android Development] khanam:
I really hope to see cm get to nightlies stage soon. Have been on cm since the inc days but currently this is too buggy and unpolished to make it to being in the nighties. Been enjoying some great sense 3.0 roms in the meantime but variety is the spice of life as they say so I miss my cm7 fix. Another headache is that cm7 uses an about to be officially deprecated ril module (probably in 17 days) which necessitates using the archaic radio which makes serial flashers like me hesitate. I don't like flashing radios again and again. Scarier than the gb radio which leaked with the 2.01.605.0 rom.

I know tony is busy with other things but did we not hear that cvpcs was about to jump on board? I follow both on twitter but have not seen anything notable of late. Anybody else who might have a better read on things?

by the way the source code comment a few posts above this is erroneous. Htc has already released the kernel source code for the kernel they released officially. They are not obliged to reveal anything else under gpl.

Sent from my thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pctD:
You have to remember these people have lives out side of Android coding. Yea, some of them do it for a living, but most of this is just a hobby. I think it's really disrespectful to cry about updates when these guys are offering something to you for free. If you think the rom has stagnated (which it hasn't), then move on. These guys don't deserve the undue criticism that is piled on every page.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] khanam:
Dude, I have been a staunch cm defender for a long time. Check out my earlier posts. I agree that we are getting this for free and I appreciate what the devs do for us too but honestly, I will call a spade a spade and openly state that dev work on cm7 has stagnated. No point getting defensive about this people... I would also suggest that more devs join the bolt effort to get it to the nightlies. It is the trickiest device thanks to the radio. I have very weak dev skills but I'm happy to be a tester, logcat monkey as I am for both ziggy and chingy. I really would love to see this succeed.

Sent from my thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] :
Source for a kernel released with 2.2. We will have source for a newer kernel released with 2.3 which will absolutely help.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ShanDestromp:
Not really. The problem is the RIL which is a solely proprietary piece of tech so there will most likely never be a "source" available, that's why it needs to be reverse engineered from scratch. GB source might help iron out the other minor issues but it's not the major slow down right now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wrich73:
Which toggle works for switching between CDMA/EVDO and CDMA/EVDO+ LTE? I didn't see anything like that under notification widget settings, thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bobby janow:
I don't really see too many bugs or it's lack of sheen. The rom is basically the same as on the DI with only the LTE handoff being the issue now, at least for me. What do you find buggy or unpolished, just curious?

Our only alternative is another AOSP rom that doesn't handoff either. Not an option IMO. Then you can go to sense 3.0 which is pretty, but my battery life is non-existent with that hog. Plenty of bugs and slowness in that too.

Fact is, we don't have many great options right now in terms of rom flashing. The phone works great, apps are quick, and the size and weight are just fine for me. Perhaps you're just getting a little bored since there are no new kernels or nightlies? I can certainly sympathize with that.

Yesterday, I was running GB 3.0. I was syncing email, FB, weather, no phone calls, and at this point in the day I had 82% batt left. Today I am running CM7 syncing the same accounts, no phone calls and have 97% batt left. CM7 is my only option if I don't want to be tethered to a charge all day.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] deltwalrus:
Thank you for expressing your opinion. Bye.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] EpicAaron:
Link was updated, its now hosted on a TD server, 20 seconds until mine is down, go go go ;).
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ufmace:
Hell yeah! Been waiting to get some of that CM7 goodness on my Bolt. Given the claimed pre-alpha status and troublesome downloads, I think I'll give it a little while longer before I mess with it, though.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pacedrum69:
55% YEAAAAAAAAH BOOOOYZ ...lol.... im so pumped about this....bought the Thunderturd right when it came out...was running CM7 on my Dinc.... Great work:D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mean Bro Greene:
You are the man. Thanks so much for all your hard work and for releasing such an early build to the public. Kindly point me in the direction of a donate link so I may show my appreciation.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bobtheelf:
Pics or it didn't happen.

OT: HELL YEAH. Keep up the good work!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] thejosher:
Woo! This means MIUI is just around the corner :D Thanks for all your hard work, devs :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] PlankLongBeard:
you took the words out my mouth :)

CM7 has been resurrected to the mecha!

Now We Pray On for MIUI ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dadsterflip:
This a full rom? Or? 88mb doesn't seem alot? I'm use to seeing 220 MB etc.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dbagjones:
Full, minus gapps... friggin sweet. ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ritcereal:
Yes its a full rom. Cyanogenmod does not include the fud HTC Sense that seems to add insane amounts of files. Pretty much every Cyanogenmod build I've seen has been right around this size so don't worry.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pacedrum69:
where do i find GAPPS??
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ericcwhitaker:
For the android noobs out there (IE me) GAPPS are the Google Apps right? Can't I just get them off Rom Manager?

I'm stoked for CM7, going to flash this tonight and see how it runs. I'm so sick of the idea that every company needs to add their own BS software to what is a solid mobile OS.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dbagjones:
ROM Manager
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ikon8:
For those asking about gapps, get them from RM or from here.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
Gapps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110307-signed.zip
[Thunderbolt Android Development] djkeller3:
Lol! You know there's no way I could pass this up! I am all over this thing!! I've been waiting for this since I got my TBolt. When I fire this baby up it could easily bring a tear to my eye!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jaskru:
installed over leaked ruu. data and 3g works fine. have not tried any calls or messages yet. installing gapps right now. this is fricken awesome!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raziel36:
Cyanbread theme is sweet.. it seems very smooth so far, going to install my apps and see how everything goes. This is too much awesomeness for one night.. all in this one thing!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] aestibar:
i appreciate your hard work, thank you so much for this...

this is only the beginning!

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could be just me, but is anyone else experiencing a smaller than normal ginger bread keyboard?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pacedrum69:
backing up TeslaROM now.... cant wait to flash this :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bhilgeman:
Cool I'll check that out thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] noisufnoc:
can I flash the update over the first pre-alpha? or should I wipe and start over?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gdanko:
So far everything works great! Thanks for all the hard work, guys! I donated and I may just donate a second time!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] spy890:
I installed today's update without wiping data/cache and it works fine for me. YMMV though
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DS36:
same here for me too cant pull any IPs
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bhilgeman:
It wasn't working for me wither, for fun I restored my wireless access point list from titanium backup, rebooted to recovery, ran fix permissions and now wifi works great.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mojonation1487:
do a fix permissions
[Thunderbolt Android Development] swimminsurfer256:
I've made one call and it seemed to work fine! Haven't tried any voice recording stuff though. Ill try again and see if its still good
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shiftyshadee:
Voice calls are only working for me with speaker on.

Sent from my ADR6400L
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MechaMorph:
Voice calls work fine for me. Have spoken with the wife twice already today and she has no problems hearing me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rlervin:
I have tried all radio conbinations and still no luck with GPS and Google Navigation! Got to go back to BAMF until this is resolved!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] revolt1:
do you think that this rom will run on the leaked version radio?

I tried it and no data
[Thunderbolt Android Development] psychomaniac189:
Im typeing on my phone right now with the leaked radio :-) so I'm sure it works
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rlervin:
My data worked fine on the leaked radio!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] irvine32:
Nikolai2.1, I'm trying to push this thing with Root Explorer but says apk cannot be installed. Ideas?

Thanks,
[Thunderbolt Android Development] maizekidstill81:
I'm running new radio and it works great on my end
[Thunderbolt Android Development] m00nshake:
I have 3g on new radio... I don't live in a 4g area but 3g is solid and so is stand alone GPS... I flashed the build from Birdman (mad kudos to Slayher, of course) that includes audio fix...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] inline6power:
Mics are still screwed up. They worked for me after the install but lost my mic altogether after about ten minutes

Sent from my rooted Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rlervin:
Will your GPS lock in for Navigation?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ProTekk:
Did that and no fix for me. With some help from utkanos on IRC he helped me see that it's a routing issue. Go in terminal emulator and run busybox route and see what shows up. Or, go through adb.

adb shell

busybox route
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Bimmer323:
While I agree that the support and development for CM7 is dissipating, we all have to understand there are a lot of other things (life) and a ton of other new phones out there that take focus away from the Bolt, unfortunately. Hopefully one day we can get a "key" from another 4g phone that comes out and it'll set the CM7 4G RIL in place and put the Tbolt on the tree.

Until then, I am extremely thankful we have what we have. I just got back from a week long vacation and wouldn't flash anything else new on my phone because I knew .06 was trustworthy, and it was. GPS, had to wait maybe 1 minute, once, other than that, instant. Phone, text, 4G, everything was flawless.

It's 95% perfection IMO, and as far a roms go, I'd say that's money.

With that said.........I'm gonna go give OMFGB a try. :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrchambo:
Bimmer, will be interested in hearing your assessment of OMFGB
[Thunderbolt Android Development] n2imagination:
+1 I agree totally. After slayer had to leave (fully understandable) I have seen 0 interest. I like others am just wondering if that hand off actually happened. I do not have confidence at this time that thunderbolt will ever see the cm7 nightly family. I cannot explain why at this point when other 4g devices are getting much more love on the dev front. If I am completely wrong and cm7 is being worked on actively I will happily eat my words, but I just am not seeing it. I have switched to OMFGB for the time being and am getting outstanding battery life (which is reason #1 I want cm7 since it is historically lean and clean). As said above there is no point getting pissed and defensive if you do not agree that dev work on tbolt cm7 has stagnated. Its just there is no evidence otherwise. I, as many here, am a huge cm7 supporter and wish it was on my device but am wondering if I purchased the wrong device. I am very tempted to swap out for the incredible 2 as 4g is not that important to me after all.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bobby janow:
Same here. I have it d/l but it's hard to get off this rom with the awesome batt life.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mustang302LX:
It's great if you like CM7 give it a shot until CM dev picks up again.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lortay78:
From another Forum 6/25/11

slayher

Developer

"Working on trying to get another test build out. Trying to tie up some little bugs, and maybe add another feature. Hang in there guys."
[Thunderbolt Android Development] :
Thinking about the incredible 2 myself. Haven't quite had this phone a week. Came from an inspire on at&t and kinda miss the slcd. Debating sacrificing screen size for quality. This isn't bad at all for tft...but I was spoiled by the slcd.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wrich73:
What is the advantage over CM7 (if everything is working for me)? Why do you feel that it is great?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RayKinStL:
OK, so when I do the *#*#4636#*#* and go to phone information and Set Preferred Network Type, these are my options...

WCDMA preferred

GSM only

WCDMA only

GSM auto (PRL)

CDMA auto (PRL)

CDMA only

EvDo only

GSM/CDMA auto (PRL)

Unknown

The unknown option was selected when I looked at it. Isn't there suppose to be an option that says "CDMA+LTE/EvDo auto"??? If not, which of those choices is 4G? For now I have it on GSM only which is finally pulling me a 3G signal, but I'd like my 4G back.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] PineTre3:
so my phone is on the charger and the green light is on like it is fully charged but when i check my battery status in settings it says it's only at 92%, any ideas on that?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raphytaffy:
Why are you doing it that way? Just go Menu > Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] orcsbane13:
The light turns green at 90% but continues to charge on all aosp time.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RayKinStL:
I find it good every once in a while to boot into CWM and reset the battery stuff.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] n2imagination:
Yeah my wife has the OG inc with the led screen and it is gorgeous in the daylight. Tbolt is beautiful inside but pure crap in the sun.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] th0r615:
In CM the green light comes on at 90%
[Thunderbolt Android Development] joshnichols189:
CM will switch to a new radio when one is OFFICIAL, not a LEAK.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] masri1987:
I was going to post this lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Franzferdinan51:
So has this rom lost its support or what? hasnt been updated since 15th and is it going to get offical CM7 support?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sabbotage:
Read the post above yours.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] djkeller3:
Personally, at this point, I think it's a mistake not using the MR2 radio or the MR2.5. I've read Slayher's reasoning for not forcing people to flash a radio that is not yet official, but the fact is, many people ALREADY ARE using these leaked radios and with great success, including myself. I think it's pretty accurate to say that no one has bricked because of using these leaked radios.

If anything, the continued reliance on Froyo radios at this stage is causing more people to not return to CM7 once they move on to other ROMs which are advancing much more rapidly and are using the new leaked radios successfully across the board. Crack-flashers like me don't like having to flash new radios just to change ROMs and will mostly refuse to do so. This is only hurting the already dwindling fanfare for CM7 on the Thunderbolt.

This whole dilemma, frankly, pisses me off. I hate it that the X has nightlies and we don't. Heck, even the Fascinate is further along with CM7 than we are, and I'm especially ashamed of that. I think Slayher is a great developer, and I've even donated handsomely to him to help keep him motivated, but in his defense, he has good reason to take this time off, but at the same time, I feel like the effort here is rotting on the vine, and using these old worn-out radios is only making matters worse.

Now, I suppose I'll get flamed, so let the flaming begin if it must.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Archangel:
No flaming, everything that you said is correct!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] PDR447:
I think it's funny that people think that threatening to use other roms will make a difference in the development of CM. Nobody on the CM team has any incentive to care whether or not you use their build. They don't get paid for impressions or anything like that. The bottom line is they do it for their own personal enjoyment and are kind enough to share it with us all. Slayher has chosen that on his personal project he will not use leaked radios. If you want to build CM to use the new radios feel free to do it. The source is out there.

For now lets just get the whining and complaining out of this thread. It is not needed and really accomplishes nothing.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tv31284:
While I wish Slayher would use the new radios as well I can understand his reasoning for not doing so. However, you do realize you're comparing apples to oranges when you bring up the fact that the X and Fascinate are both further along, don't you? Just for starters the X and Fascinate have been out way longer than the Thunderbolt. Hell, even HTC/Verizon haven't even been able to get everything to run perfectly.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] joshnichols189:
This.. not to mention they're also both 3g devices..
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Archangel:
Isnt that the point though? This device has 4G capabilities, and when that basic function is so off and on in a build it renders that build, and its functions almost useless, doesnt it? If I have to go in and toggle all the time to get a basic function of the phone to work whats the point if it cannot even survive a reboot or switch from wifi back to the radio? I love cm, and most do thats why we all come back to this build from time-to-time. It is an amazing Rom and when it goes beta it will contend and surpass all others.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wwjdd44:
The last ~50 post have been nothing but crying about lack of support for the Tbolt. How many of you have addressed this with Cyanogen?? Instead of pissing and moaning about Slayher not putting out anything new, go the the head of this project and voice your concerns. His twitter is @cyanogen.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] masri1987:
Good suggestion!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] deltwalrus:
I'm still not receiving some calls on this version. Has been this way since 0.3 or so. Phone never rings, then voice mails come through. No missed calls show up. Google Voice is installed, but not used for calls (only for VVM). I removed PrivacyStar, but that didn't seem to have any effect.

Anyone else getting this or know how to remedy it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bilbobrian:
Looks like we may be getting some goodies soon...:) http://bit.ly/kBx5OA
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RayKinStL:
State of the Radio?

Sorry guys, but this thread is over 600 pages long and impossible to go through. All I want to know is the CURRENT state of the radio. Here is my main question...

I think I saw some stuff about the radio not working when you switch to wifi. Can someone explain what it is going on and how to fix it? I can usually leave wifi off (except downloads that require it) but if I need it on, and it does indeed cause problems when going back to 4G, what do I need to do? A full restart? Or just the radio toggle? Will these issues exist is I reboot?

Thanks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bobby janow:
From my experience... If you leave the radio on 3G (cdma evdo/ auto) everything works just fine. If you're using 4G then you need to toggle when switching off of it. Wifi will not switch to LTE, period. Only way is to first go to 3G, then back to 4G. Booting to data will not work with LTE on, only 3G. Then swap to 4G again.

To sum it up.. 4G is a pain in the ass with AOSP until they get it fixed. Also, in my experience obviously, if you're on 4G and drop out of a 4G area you lose data completely until you toggle.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Bimmer323:
Very nice, fast, clean rom.

I like the two shortcuts on the lockscreen.

Battery life seemed equal to CM.

GPS locked on fairly fast after clearing and downloaded data with GPS Status

MMS worked fine

Wifi worked

4G was exactly the same as CM for me, toggle, no 4G after re-boot or wifi (using 402w radio)

What I didn't like, or couldn't find:

Can't turn off pictures in the dialer

No led notification changes (I prefer green for missed texted) anal stuff here.

I didn't like having "God" mode on my phone, it's just weird....

My CPU was stuck on 100% until a reboot.

Had a sms take forever to send, and actually not sure if it did ever go though.

Otherwise, great aosp rom, I'd run it with no complaints, I'm just used to CM and for teh time, will probably stick with it.

Just extremely happy we have options!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrchambo:
Thanks, Bimmer! Pretty much my sentiments to the t

Jc