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[Fascinate General] mastamoon:
Does anybody know when you do an ESN swap yourself, do you have to actually turn on and activate the swap phone before switching back? I have some vzw phones at home I have given to my kids to play with that I can use for the ESN, but I do not think they will power up if I can even find the battery/charger.
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
Hrm....I don't think so. I think the act of simply releasing the original devices DMU from the headend is enough. I say this based on reports from people here who said they didn't actually do a ESN swap. They instead simply did a disconnect and reconnect of that line on the website. So no other device was activated inbetween in that case and they still were issued a new working DMU.
[Fascinate General] mastamoon:
So you can just do a suspend and reactivate instead? That would be quick n easy!
[Fascinate General] mastamoon:
This does not work. Just tried.
[Fascinate General] AlexDeGruven:
I know this is from a couple of days ago, now, but this is just simply unreal.

The amount of inanity that issued forth from that CSRs mouth is not measurable by any celestial means.

The OS has absolutely nothing to do with whether you can connect to 3G/4G/6G Bieber Fever, it's all in the radios.

The Fascinate doesn't have an LTE-capable radio, so anything they were doing on the 4G network that caused problems for the 3G network is ENTIRELY within their system. Absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the device and whether it's an 'open platform', 'closed platform', or 'pogostick platform' (makes just as much sense in this context as the other two).
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
That's the kind of **** that causes me to rage, when I call in to get help and I have to listen to some arrogant CSR say **** I know isn't true. Here I am telling them what to do to fix it and the "pro" is telling me something he made up.
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
I rocked my old omnia i910 for about a half a day over the weekend and was getting the same sub par network performance I have come to know since december (when they switched on lte) so it's not the f'ing device verizon it's YOU!!!!!!! So now it's the most expensive and most unreliable service in the country.

good day.
[Fascinate General] michael.l.helman:
I was suffering like everyone else until this morning. Called an old colleague @ an agent i used to work for and had him do an esn change to another phone and activate it(*228). After a few mins had him change it back to my fascinate. I did a OTA option 1 and 3g lock after the reboot. Phone has been back to normal since.
[Fascinate General] Daemonax:
I had this problem this morning for the first time. I had upgraded to Evil Fascinate 3.5.0 and thought I screwed something up until I saw this thread. Just like the others, I switched service to an old phone and then back again. No more data issues.

Thanks alot!
[Fascinate General] GoBruins:
How did you go about doing this by steps? Thanks!
[Fascinate General] Daemonax:
I used the online process to "update" my Device ID. Mine is on a corporate account, so I did it in the Wireless Number Center. For personal accounts, you would choose the Activate a Device button on the first page after you log in. Then just follow the prompts.

You can accomplish the same thing by calling support and telling them you want to temporarily activate a phone and then reactivate the original one. Either method requires you to have another phone to activate, of course.

Once the old phone (HTC TP2, man that seems so long ago) was activated, I did some test calls and tested the data. I then turned it off and reactivated my Fascinate with the online process. Repeated the tests and all was good.
[Fascinate General] GoBruins:
Thanks for the response! I actually dont have another phone to swap but can I just tell vzw to deactivate and reactivate the same phone?
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
Yep. They have other ESN's they can move your number over to, then move back to yours. Same thing.
[Fascinate General] GoBruins:
Thanks just did it with tech support, 3g seems good, just togs them about the 3g reset and the dmu thing and they did it, seems much better now
[Fascinate General] zombie1991:
To share my experience

Called my tech support. She said if I had extra phone I could do esn swap myself if I had spare phone. I had a spare palm treo 700m sitting on my desk. Dialed *228 option 1. Put offending phone number in. Put last 4 of SSN in. It activated. Called my wife from it. Messed around a bit on it...sort of... 10 minutes after calling my wife I dialed *228 option 1 again on my rooted Community ROM fascinate.

3G upon bootup and 3G longer than 1 minute. Opened Words with friends and it worked. Opened facebook and it worked. 10 minutes since boot and it's still connected.
[Fascinate General] GoBruins:
What's everyones 3g speeds now?

http://my3gspeed.com/3g/downloadTest

I was running 1.5mbs in the afternoon right after the VZW tech fix

Now I'm running about 0.5mbs at home (night time, did the *228 +1 and *228 +2 again, hope that didn't make it go down...)
[Fascinate General] Pfredd:
.97 mbps inside my house where I don't get very good reception (1-2 bars)

Sent from my Samsung Fascinate
[Fascinate General] prehistorical:
0.08 mbps

latency 1759 ms

what do I win?
[Fascinate General] GoBruins:
You win a call to tech support week if they can do anything about slow 3g!
[Fascinate General] barry253:
Same problem & solution

Just want to chime in - same problem on my Fascinate since upgrading to CommRom 1.2, and a call to tech support to swap the ESN to another phone and back again fixed it instantly. Ignore their request to hard reset the phone; it's not needed.

Thanks for the advice!
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
Yep +1
[Fascinate General] xceebeex:
So can I activate my wifes old crappy phone (non smartphone) and then reactivate the fascinate without losing any data our anything? How long does my wifes old phone have to stay activated before I switch back?
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
Yes you can do that and I don't know for sure but I am pretty sure the other phone never even needs to be turned on. You see when you tell their system to move that line to a different ESN it changes what needs to be changed on their end. Then when you move it back and power up your Fascinate it will have to be issued a new DMU key from their system because the one that was associated with it was released. No harm in trying, find out yourself, turn off both phones, do the ESN swap on the website, wait 2 minutes, swap it back, then power up the Fascinate.
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
2.2 mbps according to that site. But when I run the speedtest.net app its more like. .60Mbps
[Fascinate General] xceebeex:
I thought you had to do *228 with it after you swap ESNs?
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
You do, I left that part out thanks. You should always do that regardless as it can't hurt.
[Fascinate General] droidstyle:
Hey guys new menber here. I just got my fascinate a week ago, its version 11. Anyways the phone is sweet but the signal is terrible. I called verizon and they arent any help. I went ahead and rooted to remove the bloatware, but I also found out something really interesting when I was doing the root. If I pull the back cover off the phone, signal goes from 0-1 bars to 3-4. the wifi goes from barely connecting to full stregnth. I verified with speedtest.net my 3g speed went from 2-300k to 1.5-2mb and the wifi went from no connectivity 50ft away to pulling 7mb. anything within 20-25ft. is pulling 20mb down. So I left the back cover off and put the phone in one of those oem carbon fiber cases and what do ya know the signal stayed!! Soon as I take it out of the case and put the back cover on the signal instantly drops. Maybe this has already been covered, but I couldnt find anything about it searching... so just passing this info on! Now my fascinate ROCKS!!!
[Fascinate General] diver47591:
3G loss

After flashing UKB ROM up to V 1.3 and still experiencing intermittent 3G coverage, I re-flashed EB01 DXC_tar and now have rock solid 3G lock. This leads to this noobie's logical conclusion that issue is in UKB ROM modem. (Check me out acting as if I know anything!) lol
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
Your problem was being caused by something else because most of us have tried flashing every rom known to man, even to go back to DH12 stock and 3G doesn't come back. Its because the problem most of us are having has nothing to do with the phone hardware or software. Its a bad DMU key issued to the phone by their head end.
[Fascinate General] mrmidnight:
Let me tell you about my oh so AWESOME day with this. First I call VZW and complain about the issue. I go from Customer service to tier 2, then to internal. Internal tells me that if the problem continues for 2 more hours to call back and tell them to do an esn swap or a dmu reset. 2 hours goes by, I call back, tell customer service what is going on and ask her to transfer me to tier 2, she tells me that I know what I'm talking about (hmm, M$ and Google beta tester, I hope I know what I'm talking about) and transfers me, the tier 2 goes through some steps including going to safe mode, and CONFIRMS a VZW error on their end, transfers me to internal, and tells me to tell the tech what is going on. Well I get ahold of someone that sounds like they sell crack in Dothan, Alabama, who refuses to do any kind of a data reset or esn swap, CONFIRMS that it is a VZW problem. And tells me that the only solution is to either pretend the problem doesn't exist, or buy a new phone. I've had my fassy since January, I have a one year VZW warranty on it, and I get told this crap. What should I do now?
[Fascinate General] xmunk:
Call till you get me lol
[Fascinate General] mrmidnight:
Wish I could brother, wish I could.

I got a full apology from VZW, and told that there is a ticket in the system for techs beyond internal and nothing can be done tonight. I was told that the problem will either be resolved by Tuesday or my phone WILL be replaced, I asked, my choice of phone? He said maybe....
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
But its not the phone.....
[Fascinate General] mrmidnight:
I know its not the phone, however vzw right now is full of people that I have the pleasure of talking to that dont friggen listen
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
Oh I know it too well friend. Took me 3 days of telling them what would fix it before they finally listened and tried it. I told them hey, it takes a few minutes to try, nothing lost in trying.
[Fascinate General] mrmidnight:
I told the fella what would fix it, then he told me that if he did do some kind of work on the phone that it would kick the trouble ticket out and I wouldn't be compensated when VZW calls me on Tuesday
[Fascinate General] mrmidnight:
I found an old droid of mine and performed an ESN swap, so far no drop from 3G. And when they call Tuesday I will inform them that I fixed the problem by doing what I told them to do.
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
People wonder why I got raging mad when those people wasted three days of me calling before simply doing what they are asked to do. We are at a time when people know their devices better than the people servicing them.

I went to a block party yesterday. Random people. I **** you not three other people there had a GalaxyS phone. One guy with the Epic 4G was actually running a custom rom and knew exactly what I was talking about when I said clockwork recovery and kernel. Small world.
[Fascinate General] mrmidnight:
True, it is a shame when the customer know the item in and out and tech support only knows the box and how to do a factory reset. I won't be calling them to let them know I fixed it, I'm gonna let them do the full investigation, then they can call me and I can tell them how i fixed it and that damn tech support lady that told me "pretend the problem doesn't exist or buy a new phone" can shove it!
[Fascinate General] Ravotus:
I had the 3G data loss problem after flashing the community rom v1.3 after running superclean 2.9.2. I tried doing a nandroid, factory restore, downloading the EC01 modem with ODIN, *228 options 1 and 2, etc.

Finally I realized something more was wrong and stared searching online, where I discovered that usually tech support is able to solve the issue with the ESN swap.

So I called tech support this morning, and after about a half hour of the usual meaningless troubleshooting steps including a factory restore, she finally got to the step of ESN swap to completely reactivate. Thankfully this worked and I have my good old 3G data back.

Really curious as to how wiping user data, cache, dalvik, and installing the new rom managed to break something, but apparently it did. So erring on the side of caution I didn't restore my nandroid and instead installed the latest version of Evil Fascination. I haven't had any problems since.
[Fascinate General] xmunk:
The fix if doing an esn swap is an odd one and something that is not in any of our troubleshooting tools.

AS for tech not knowing this phone inside and out I justlaugh. I take calls for phones I've never seen before with nothing to go on but shays in the system which is general or what I can find on google in a short amount of time. I take 30 calls a day on average and I can say I have not had 1 call on this issue.

Remember our tech support is looking at a lot more than just the phone.not everyone knows the switch end well so they dont want to make the problem worse.

Just my two cents
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
I haven't really seen this reported by anyone except Samsung GalaxyS owners and it's always after the ED01 update. When a customer calls in is there not a central repository of resources that you can bring up that shows the most recent fixes for various problems, etc? I mean, is there no way for you to get this info in front of the techs taking the calls? I used to work at an incoming call center, so I have an idea what its like, some people won't use the tools in front of them, but there should be some record. Also what happens when Samsung gets sent a crap ton of perfectly good phones? Wouldn't that have people looking into why they were all replaced?

It seems like my suspicion is true, that VZW is just so large that these kind of issues mostly go unnoticed. Hell, they lost 4G nationwide and didn't even acknowledge it.
[Fascinate General] xmunk:
For individual phones there are known issue logs though it seems those really only get updated with launch issues. sometimes You'll see then after software releases.honestly with this issue I dont see it as massively wide spread. Yesterday I took 5 calls for fascinates none about this issue all were stock updates and most about decreased battery life after update.

The internal tools for these issues are clunky and poorly organized so I personally rarely use them. To give you the thought process behind a tier 2 tech with this issue I would go through standard trouble shooting up to master reset. I'd do a dmu reset though I'm not supposed to and if that didn't work I'd master reset took take settings/apps out of the equation. Than I'd do a trouble ticket. If nrb came back no network or AAA issue then and only then I'd replace the phone.

Notice esn change nowhere in there. The reason is I can't think of any other issue swapping esns would fix. Outsource tech swaps esns on every call than they transfer to me to fix what they broke lol.
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[Thunderbolt General] Dxun:
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[Thunderbolt General] smstutler:
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[Thunderbolt General] azturbomini:
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[Thunderbolt General] smstutler:
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[T-Mobile LG G2x] Berat:
Didn't see this posted yet in the apps section, there is an app which helps in calibrating your battery. The app is located in the market and is created by an XDA member all credit goes to him. You must be rooted for this app to have an effect, I can vouche for this app as I have used both on the EVO and now on the G2X I have experienced great battery life after using this in conjunction with setcpu.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rich2thad:
and its called..........

sent from my G2X with no regrets
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Suprah:
Says it right in the thread title

Sent from my LG-P999
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jdaclutch:
that,setcpu and juice defender= hollycowmybatterylastsforever.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jimbo831:
Out of curiosity, what are people using for the settings on SetCPU (ie max and max). Also, I noticed the "Scaling" option is grayed out on my G2x over my old Nexus One. Does the scaling option require a custom kernel I am guessing? Thanks.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] hdxnickka:
Also, What settings are you guys using for Juicedefender?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
I guess that a good reason to root.

I guess that a good reason to root. I want to get as much battery life as i can get.:D

I am new to posting but been a long time reader.

waiting for my new phone to get here tommorrow and I am actually off from work tommorrow so I have a long time to get to know my new phone.

Upgrading from a rooted G1
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Lightning Blue:
Does it matter if the phone is on or off when you charge it to full the second time?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Berat:
All scaling does is how the CPU scales itself(to a given formula depending on the profile) for example if using a conservative scale the CPU scales itself by 15mhz depending on the task so if your min is 218 it would go up or down by 15 until it reaches the maximum or min. Since no kernals are available yet for our device it will use the default scaling profile built in. my screen off profile is a Max 218 Min 218 with a priority of 100. Regardless of the scaling profile selected I am forcing the CPU to down clock to that set of perimeters

So what I use for SetCPU is

Profile : Screen off

Max 218

Min 218

Priority 100
[T-Mobile LG G2x] k0shi:
You dont get lag when unlocking with these settings?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] spencersir2:
Hi

No, i have the same settings and even with those settings i can listen to music and have led notification with no problems, and than right when you turn the screen on, depending on your settings of course, will bring the max right back too 1000.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] slickerxcuh:
Yeah it lags when I turn on the screen need to press power like 3 times

Sent from my G2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] overground:
I get the same, so I use 216-312 sleep profile and no problems.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] CB620:
how did you guys get setcpu to work when i pick a profile after launch it force closes.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rich2thad:
Re-install and when u first open it make sure u click

Nvidia Tegra 2
[T-Mobile LG G2x] hiko36:
From what I can tell all this app does is delete the battery stats from the system which we can do from CWM on our own. Am I missing something?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Jeffro64:
From what i've heard it doesn't work doing it from CWM.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] hiko36:
We could just do it using Root Explorer then.

/data/system/batterystats.bin
[Captivate General] TheSopranos16:
I've been having a weird issue for the past few weeks where my phone will lock up and the screen won't turn on anymore. Often, it happens with the phone in standby in my pocket. I'll feel a vibration (sometimes just 1 vibration, sometimes followed by the usual 3 fast vibrations of a force close) and then the phone is gone. I have to hold all 3 buttons to reset it and then it boots up fine like nothing is wrong. I've had this same issue on various roms I've used lately (Serendipity, Firefly, Cog4, etc.) and on my last flash I've even done the full flash to stock and master clear. Is anyone else having any issues like this?

I'm guessing this is 1 of 3 things:

1) I have a hardware problem with my phone and need a new one.

2) This is an issue with custom kernels with lagfix and I have to live with it or use a stock kernel. I know some custom kernels have had charging death issues (I've seen that happen to me also but idk if its from charging or the same thing as when its in my pocket)

3) Some app I installed is causing this. I have a hard time believing this can be the problem only because any app issues I've seen in the past just show up as a FC and don't take out the entire phone. If this is in fact an app issue, IDK how I'll ever figure out which one is causing it since it just dies and I don't get a chance to see a FC message or anything like that.

Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated as I really don't know what to do at this point. My next step is probably going to run pure stock froyo for a few days to see if I still have the issue but I suspect I will since its been present on every rom config I've used. Whats even worse is, if it happens and I don't notice for a while, when I finally reboot it the battery is severely drained. Its like something gets in an infinite loop and kills the battery depending on how long I leave it like that (the phone also warms up when its been in this state for a while).

Thanks in advance for any help!
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
Sounds like a warranty replavement to me.

Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
[Captivate General] BWolf56:
What kernel are you running? And are you OC/UV?

If so, try a different kernel (like speedmod k13e) that doesn't have OC/UV option. Black screen is usually a UV setting problem.

If it's not the case, warranty?

EDIT: Have you flashed over different ROM with lagfix/ OC/UV enabled?
[Captivate General] TheSopranos16:
Right now I'm running lastest Cog 4 with the included kernel (which doesn't support UV). I was OC but once I had this issue I reset the clocks to stock but then it happened again. Before I installed Cog 4 I flashed stock and master cleared...
[Captivate General] diablo009:
1. Did u restore any data using TiBu when u flashed the ROM? Did u happen to restore any system data?

2. Did u put on any kind of under volting?

Flash any ROM, say Firefly, and use it for a day or two

without

restoring any of ur apps, and see if the issue is coming up again.

If yes, try changing kernel, say to onix, and keep on for a day or two see if the issue is recurring.

Just to be sure, can u do this:

1. Revert to stock

2. Format internal SD (similar to master clear to clear out SD card; I never did a master clear so far, only this)

3. Copy the ROM u want to use to SD

4. Flash Firefly 3.0 (this formats all system partitions, so no need to master clear)

Firefly has hardcore's kernel by default, and this kernel

does not

apply lagfix by default. Same with onix kernel too, and this is the reason I am recommending this combination of ROM and kernels. I use onix cos I have some wifi issues on hardcore's kernel.

5. Do

NOT

restore of ur data or apps
[Captivate General] TheSopranos16:
I did restore data using TiBu but only app data. The only system stuff I restored was bluetooth pairings and wifi access points. Other than that only app data. I don't have any UV right now...