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[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] SwimmerBoy:
Glad to hear that you already have a new phone. Keep it safe ;)

//The LG-P500 is responsible for this post.//
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] ot3pch4n:
New Phone

Congratulations on your new phone Francisco! Now keep it away from little sister :D

I've reflashed the ROM last night & installed setCPU first before flashing the latest kernel. I thought it would fix the smartass going back to default settings after reboot but it didn't :D. I think I used ondemand before I slept & had 2% battery drain around 5 hours. I changed to smartass a few minutes ago & rebooted & surprisingly the settings stayed on 729/480.

My phone is working smoothly but I haven't installed other apps to further stress it. All settings are low & I use 2G only. I use Wi-Fi a lot for FB & a game but it switches off during screen timeout. I'm still observing battery consumption.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] lerkin:
I think you can use profiles in setcpu to preserve settings after reboot... Something like that: Battery < 101%, max 729 min 480, smartass, priority 100 (or any other value). Enable it, and leave just that one profile.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] ot3pch4n:
setCPU

Thanks mate! I'll give it a shot :)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] digkong:
great great news.. that u got ur new phone already...

though i could not donate.. coz i dont have an account yet... but badly wanted to though.. anyways.. ive been running the latest kernel for about a day and a half.. and i find that the scrolling is as smooth as the previous versions.. i use go launcher ex.. there are a lot of glitches while i switch between screens.. else this rom is great...
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 32bit:
Francisco, I've just tried devoid.franco with kernel 13.5 and that's can I say.

1. 2D&3D scores of devoid.franco & v.13.5 are very same to my stock ROM v.2.2 with Your tweaks v.1.05.2011 and this "old good" kernel by Sippolo

The scores by Neocore, AnTuTu System Benchmark, Smartbench 2011.

(To be clear, the scores of stock.ROM with v.13.x are a bit slower then with Sippolo's kernel, but with devoid.franco & 13.x scores are the same)

2. But SD card i/o performance is catastrophic with v.13.x kernels regardless whether it devoid.franco or stock.ROM. Almost twice lower than it should to be for my class 10 mSD. And twice lower than it is with Sippolo kernel & stock.ROM.2.2

My typical rates are (write = 9.5 to 11.5 MB/s) and (read = 22 to 26+ MB/s)

With 13.x kernels I always got about 4.5-6.5 on write and 8.5-13 on read.

Please do something with it, I impetrate You.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] blueren:
I rolled back to 12m now. The smoothness started diminishing... The phone became choppy :(
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] ccdreadcc:
guys im posting the older v13f kernel here...

some1 post the performance results for it..

i feel its the best performance kernel :eek:
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Abhiroxx:
is there any way to run StellBlue theme on devoid franco??
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
You know that's sequential speed? And it means nothing for the android system, what matters is random speed. Anyway, download this program and run the benchmark:

http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskMark/index-e.html

Then post the results please.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 32bit:
Oh, Cristal! That's for PC ;) So, the results would be highly depends on SDcard reader's controller performance...
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I know, you just have to connect your phone to the pc and it will benchmark it inside the phone with the p500 controller.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] andy572:
what? how can you benchmark with real values a device via remote?

sorry, but i think its not really possible.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I don't need real value, I just need them so I can compare them ;)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] GForceXIII:
but the performance difference between using the p500 and a card reader is quite different, in fact it's a large difference.

just try doing it.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 32bit:
Yes, my readers are crap (3 of 3)

The best results are from the phone via cable.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] lerkin:
I don't think it's because of different kernels, I have very bad speed in custom recovery too on my class 10 card. Copying on SD card is very laggy, with long interruptions. I hate it very much.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Those are pretty good speeds if you ask me.

The main problem is in our phone's controller and having a good quality card helps too.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] blueren:
@Franco - How many hours until the next release?
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Omg I am posting with a p500 again! Dunno yet, I wanted to apply more stuff before releasing it.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 32bit:
I'm not sure whether it depends on ROM+kernel in such experiment (probably not 'cause the card directly connected to PC) but now it's with stock.2.2+Der_Caveman_V3+franco.tweaks.1.05
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 32bit:
CustomRecovery uses it's own kernel.

By the way I see You are from Moscow so You can try this card - I'm using it and it's absolutely brilliant.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
You do realize this kernel has like a thousand fixes and optimizations to the sd controller and the usb controller don't you? Even if a benchmark shows you lower speed than it should, the actual speeds inside the phone are probably way higher because of all the improvements.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 32bit:
Oh, it looks like benchmark apps are works in an isolated containers w/o corresponding with the rest of the phone :)

In this case how do we understand that this (ROM, kernel) is faster than another one? Of course we may meditate singing mantras, but it's another story ;)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] ccdreadcc:
Check for loading time of first level in hawx :)

Atleast thts how I check performance :p
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
By naturally using your phone, specially when using any form of app2sd, dalvik2sd, data2sd whatever. Currently I'm using those three + zipalign on boot, and my new phone is flying and I'm using a class 4 card if you want to know. You can see the improvements on USB and SD controllers comparing the time of mounting and unmounting the card when connecting to the pc. For me it's almost instant and transfer times are pretty good for a class 4 too. But without any 2sd variant you don't need to worry about your sdcard speeds.

Completely wrong. What matters is real world performance not gaming.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] ccdreadcc:
Well as far as I knew gaming capabilities are the true benchmark of a entetainment device...
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 32bit:
Francisco, I'm using app2sd, dalvik2sd and boottime zipalign and my phone is flying too and so fasssst - this is the main problem :D

The negligible differences in performance are rarely seen by eyes so the benchmark apps helps to the judgment.

If the differences are so noticeable to one could see them w/o benchmarks than there is nothing to talking about.

ps. I've used class 4 previously, but class 10 is much better, don't You believe me? :)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 32bit:
Sure, You're right. But with latest kernels I'm rather see the differences beside the governors than beside the kernels by itself.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] no_pride:
I know your Kernel is not intended for use with other ROMs but I got tempted to use it on Mik_os' CM7 v6.5.1 after reading some comments from others who did it.

To my surprise your Kernel 13.5.2 made mik's CM7 even better and cured the cam and battery drain problems I encountered with mik's CM7.

Your kernel is starting to become a miracle patch for ROMs. Again congratulations :D
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
My parents are buying me a 8gb Team Class 10 in the next days, then I will judge. As for sequential reading Class 10 cards are the fastest obviously. As for random access speeds (thats the most important for Android phones as they read random and not sequential) that depends from card to card and it's not related to the Class. That's discussed in a few threads here in XDA forums you can search for them ;)

This kind of discussions could last for days and pages of pages of replies eheh

Changing subjects I'm compiling a kernel now with two new governors: InteractiveX and SavagedZen. InteractiveX is an updated Interactive governor with sleep+wake profiles and more tweaks. SavagedZen is a governor based on Interactive and Smartass, very tweaked and with sleep+wake profiles. Should be fun testing them both, I'm pretty anxious as well!
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Javi22:
A little bug; when I put airplane mode On, in the wake-up screen (after press any key when phone is locked) it says an option: "Emergency call". If I turn off airplane mode, the message still there

I do not bother, its a simple thing of no importance, but maybe you wanted to know ;)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 32bit:
In any case, I do not understand the subject matter.

There is two common type of topics. The first is "Oh, franco, go-go-go! Another great build! Give us more, much more, much more! (and try to do it ASAP)". The second type is the complaints that something doesn't not working.

But when I say my comparisons with another products then one says me I don't right.

But what is the purpose of this work? To compile another one build? Or to make the build better and probably the best. If the second, then there is no way but compare with the best of present builds.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I've always been open to others opinions, and yours is very welcome, and as every benchmark you do. I want to make it the best kernel for our phone, and I can't do it without the users suggestions, bug report, benchmarks, opinions, whatever you want to call it ;)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 32bit:
Not just so. I've seen class 4 with sequential reading speed 25+. But SD-class guarantees "the least sustained write speeds for a card in a fragmented state" OK, let's forget about it :)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Explore3:
I will not hijack your thread with a discussion of the relative merits of different brands, class ratings and random read/write speeds for large and small file sizes. For a photographer, the decision is relatively easy. In the Android world, the subject is not as simple and straightforward as one might think. The area is worthy of some research.

I did see some recent benchmarks of Team cards, in one of the last posts on this thread. http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1582172

Looking forward to testing the 2 governors in your new kernel!!
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Hugo Pires:
francisco, I have the same dillema with your ROM+kernel.

Whilst real-life performance is fine (although I cannot objectively compare it to other ROMs or kernels), the benchmarks tell me the opposite. And while one can argue that benchmarks do not measure real-life performance and natural use of the phone, I guess one can also say that it is true that if a ROM displays, lets say, 60 FPS and 1200 points on Neocore and Quadrant while yours display (in my phone, with my settings and whatsoever) 45 FPS and 700 points, something is not right.

Maybe the score given by an benchmark cannot be translated to an appreciation of real-life performance, but I do not see why some tweak that supposedly improves the kernel's performance is not picked up by the benchmark.

Theoretically, the benchmark should be able to pick up these improvements of performance better than one could expect to see directly by using the phone.

I don't mean to be unthankful, on the contrary, I'm using your ROM and I appreciate your efforts, but something doesn't ring right.

I am going to test your latest kernel over some other ROM (thinking about LOL 1.4.2) to see what happens. If it doesn't improve, I think I'll switch to mik's 2.3.4.

Again, thanks for your work and regards from a fellow tuga :P
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
It's not hijacking, is simple discussion, and pretty constructive! And I agree with you Explorer. As a photographer the choice couldn't be more simple, but for the Android system everything is pretty ambiguous. Anyway the governors look nice, specially SavagedZen.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Because the benchmarks test objectively one, two or threee scenarios, not taking in consideration any other variants or randomness that could happen when using the phone. And most of the changes are not visible, they happen in the background...it's hard to explain.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] acrossy:
Don't really see what the diferences are on both! but.... seems cool! ^^
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
New release v13.7. Check the first post for the changes, as usual. Post feedback specially on the new governors, I'm curious about your thoughts. Have fun.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] XLR8_2K:
Just flashed the darn thing :D

You almost don't give time for the last kernel to stabilize :cool:

hehehehe...

Ps. a question thou. There's no mention to recommended oc's h/l clock speeds

for these new govs. Same as b4? @720/480?

cheers!
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] dee000000:
Can you please update your kernel repo to reflect the changes you have made cause when I try to build from your repo wifi doesnt work.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yes I have to upload the damn thing, sorry bout that. Will do in a few.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Same speeds, just not a recommended governor because the new ones are all good :)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] jeffkid182:
an out of the topic question (sorry i really dont know where to post this).

If i convert my ext2 to ext3, will it reformat the whole micro sd?
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
No, but there is no reason to convert to ext3, it's slooooooow.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] dee000000:
Thank you!!
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] jeffkid182:
oh ok... how bout ext4? I'll try the new kernel out once my phone's fully charged. :D
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
EXT2: Fast but no journalism

EXT3: Slow but with journalism

EXT4: Faster than EXT3 but slower than EXT2 but with journalism
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] jeffkid182:
ok! thanks for the info. :D
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] alfiemenace:
seems like interactiveX has better results on quadrant and neocore than SavagedZen, on 729/480
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] mihir287:
Will a different governor give a very different benchmark score? Because imo during any demanding activity like benchmarking, the processor will always remain at maximum frequency, regardless of the governor.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] digkong:
ive been running this kernel for just few hours now... and can feel the diff... everything feels so smooth.. love ur kernel..

ur kernel+mik's 6.5.1.. neocore=56.7(InteractiveX )

52.3(SavagedZen)

i some were feel that SavagedZen does not give a constant performance..:p

ur work ROCKZZZZZZ...:D
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I need to recompile the kernel with the changes. And speaking of which I have bad news. Adding Der_caveman touchscreen driver to the newer kernel, replacing the LG lagfix, works fine, boots and whatever, but the scrolling while touching the screen is bugged, and it's too damn slow. I'll release an alternative version with the native Der_caveman's kernel (without the new features like BFQ, updated drivers etc...) so users can choose which one they like while I implement the codes manually to build a bug-free kernel, but that's gonna take a few days.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] theb3s7:
Oh.. so it's either LG Lag-"fix" with 3D, either Der_caveman without new 3D drivers ? :)

I can't wait any more days, I want to flash one of your releases today and.. I'd like to know your opinion on which would be best :)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I'll be really honest, I don't know. Either are good, and either have bad things. Maybe I would go for the Der_caveman's because the touchscreen driver makes a good difference in contrast with the one from LG, but the other one has a new scheduler a some updates to drivers. Just depends on your taste, there's not much I can say. I'm just doing some last touches before re-releasing the one with Der_caveman.

EDIT: Sorry for the language, but ****, I think I found why the scrolling is laggy, there is still hope!!
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] theb3s7:
Okay, I'll be here waiting for it :D
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yes I found it, you don't wanna know what I did.... /facepalm Well I'll compile the rom for you users now, it's awesome ;) just few minutes more.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] razvanborza:
flashhhhhhhh ;)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] theb3s7:
Now I'm really curious :)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
First post updated. Download and enjoy, it's really good, I don't know if I can squeeze more performance out of it, it's pretty maxxed out. Feedback please :)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] pomka78:
Hi franciscofranco. In your kernel swapfile activated or not?
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] denzphee:
out of curiousity (i'm all about seeking info these days)...... did the gingerbread theme make it into v4? just wondering so i know to flash that if it isn't included yet. thanks.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] thenenea:
Missing apps issue

Hi Francisco,

Is the missing apps issue still occurring? In V3 with interactive apps2sd after each reboot some applications were missing and every once in a while the account went missing as well. Thank you.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] nk_blu:
is it just me, or is v2 much more snappy and quick than v4? Like, the initial scrolling and "eye candy visuals" are noticibly laggier than v2. I deleted v2 off my SD card so I can't verify my claim further, but if someone gives me the link to v2, I would like to try the old version again.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Magnumutz:
Flashed sapps zip but still don't have calendar app.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] theb3s7:
It's Gapps, not Sapps for that..
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
No idea. You don't need swap file.

@denzphee

Sorry I forgot about it, I was really busy trying to release this one with a proper touchscreen input driver.

@thenenea

I don't know. Ungaze scripts questions and problems should be addressed in his thread he appreciates it ;)

@nk_blu

v4 is basically v2 with kernel updates and I feel it as snappy and fast than ever.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] nk_blu:
I'll try flashing again by following your directions exactly. I'll also format my SD card. Will return in couple hours with update.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] danialrocker:
Hey i just flashed in in my lgp500 ,

i get 52fps on neocore.

However i found something odd. When i touch my screen it gets pretty laggy.

Laggier than the older void. Just sayin.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
That's pretty impossible I just compiled it with Der_caveman's touchscreen driver. Have you full wiped then flashed?
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] danialrocker:
I'm pretty sure I pressed wipe everything in the flash custom recovery .

I guess i';m just going to reflash again.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Try to overclock as well, 729 max with interactive, it flyyys !
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] iSiktir:
What about overall battery performance with the new kernel and devoid.franco?
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] eagledipesh:
Installed it.....will check and confirm.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] AngryWolf80:
May I ask stupid question? Is it possible to make some trick: whe launched standard camera app, CPU speed decreased to default 600MHz.

Think it's not, but :D
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] 4silvertooth:
Hi franco isn't it time to update the rom a little bit. It feels like engine of a Ferrari in body of lets say Nissan.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] mprou:
Well if it is a Nissan then it's a Skyline GTR with 1000BHP :D
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] akitos:
I flash the latest kernel to my Cm7 6.5.1. But I cant set the frequency in the CyanogenMod Settings. Do i have to use the Setcpu App? Thanks
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] izzat001:
@akitos

Yuppp flashing a new kernel breaks the cyanogenmod CPU settings
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Gagan91:
Can anyone please confirm the steps for installing francos kernal ??

1) Download rom, kernal and app2sd image

2) boot in custom recovery (i have RA_thunderg-1.1.0-GNM)

3) Wipe everything (everything rite ?? all the options ?)

4) partition my new sd card (swap: 0, ext: 512, ext2-ext3, then ext3-ext4 it.)

5) Flash the app2sd image file (gonna flash the last stable build.. not latest beta)

6) after its completed straightaway flash franco.devoid rom file

7) after its completed i reboot < chk out the new rom for a moment

8) reboot into recovery again and then flash the kernal

9) Wipe cache (not sure how to do this ??)

10) install set cpu ?
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Momaro:
No. you are doing it wrong.

Make ext partition any time before running apps2sd. it is not intrinsically rom related with franco rom.

wipe everything (not necessarily batt stats, not rotate option.) Wipe system if you come from gingerbread. Rom first. Reboot. Reboot recovery. Kernel. (wipe cache and dalvik cache if inclined.) Reboot. Then apps2sd.

Good luck.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Gagan91:
omg

i wiped batt and rotate thing too

is it gonna mess up ??? :( :(

btw flashing ROM rite now

hope everything goes well :O
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] manast:
Wiping Battery and Rotate stats will not cause any harm. Dont' worry. :)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Gagan91:
Thanks all went well !! :)

i even installed saaps after that

but there is no browseR, calendar, gmail, youtube etc??

so i tried downloading essential apps link given in first post

but when i try to install it it shows an error abt something missing file lg home??

please any solution

or can i install those apps individially from Market (like browser) ?

and should i install apps2sd now ??

would it be straightaway activated ? (will it move apps to memory card without any further settings?)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] blueren:
franco.. I'm on 13.7 now.. it seems that swype is even more choppy now.. Scrolling in dolphin browser isn't smooth.. :|

@gagan91 - disable verification first and then flash again