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[Thunderbolt Android Development] Chris Hansen:
I'm with you, I'm still getting pretty bad battery life. Tried different kernels, governors, voltages, settings, and I'm still getting much worse than on Sense. I have been stating that the cell standby and android system have been the main drain on my battery, but people keep saying it's just reporting incorrectly. That doesn't really help, as it seems to be hearsay, and it seems incorrect as well since my battery is dying much faster even while the screen is off.

And to the guy that said our extended batteries are worse than stock - prove it. I have yet to see a single piece of evidence confirming this rumor, and people like you keep perpetuating it by just repeating something you saw. I've gone well over a day (34+ hours) on BAMF and lean kernel set to battery saver mode with moderate to heavy usage, but my best on CM7 has been about 16 hours with much lighter usage. That's about the best I got out of the stock battery as well (running BAMF + lean kernel.)

If you have factual evidence, I'm all for it, but don't just sit here and tell us that the battery is the problem.

Thrown by Zeus himself
[Thunderbolt Android Development] SikYou:
The battery is definitely not the problem, its the rom. Everyone that gets good battery life on sense should go back to sense :-) The number one reason I stick with CM is battery life, if it were bad I would leave.

Sent from my ThunderBolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WBMc36:
Sorry for the long post, just want to update for anyone else with 4g issues, or battery issues.

I reflashed the radio, got 4g for a little, wiped battery stats. So far the latter has seemingly helped battery life. Also did the 4g "fix" from the bug thread about fixing permissions and rebooting. The thing is I have had the exact same setup on cm7 for around a year now maybe more. Got great battery with the incredible, switched to bolt and hopped on cm7 asap. Screen brightness around 40% maybe lower, screen timeout 15 seconds, only thing that had never really worked out on cm7 for me was setting wifi sleep policy to never. I couldn't get data when i was off wifi until i changed it back to turn off when screen is off. I disabled g+ notifications, because someone said that is a hog which i agree, as well as docs and books. Things i don't need updating in the background.

There is no indication any certain app is acting up, partial wake usage in spare parts indicates dialer, android system, google services are the big three, with g+ and google search below them, but seeing as i was just using them it was only a few seconds when i clicked them.

I have always had facebook set to never refresh, along with twitter, and news and weather. I always have gmail pushed as that is my main email and like to see messages when they come in. I understand you weren't trying to be a jerk, this whole issue is really hit or miss it seems. Works great for some, horrible for others. Just trying to figure out what i need to do to get it to work properly. I am also not so concerned with battery life atm as much as having 4g that works. People complain too much about battery to begin with, but if i can get my life from the MR1 radio back that would be great. Hopefully i am on my way.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] michaelkahl:
I stated earlier that my battery is getting better each day and its holding true.

14 hours and 16 minutes off the charger and I'm at 35%

I've stayed with the stock kernel and mr2 radio since Friday.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mustang302LX:
16 hours? Lol I'm at 8 hours with 1 email and 3 texts! If I actually used my phone today it would of been dead.

Oh and to those saying turn off sync stuff...I shouldn't have to. I got a smartphone for a reason. I'm not hating on CM7 I'm just saying those of you with 25+ hours there is no way you are using the phone much at all.

Sent from my Thunderbolt running CyanogenMod 7 using the Tapatalk app.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] michaelkahl:
I have exchange, facebook, and g+ sync'n and today i shouldas my previous post said im getting decent battery. Not she shut some are having such bad luck.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 2k10MBC300SPT:
Today once again, I had another incredible experience with CM7 and my OEM ext Battery. Off charger at 8:35am(when I woke up), its now 9:56pm and my battery is still @ 43%. That's after a slew of text messages, browsing the web (espn, you tube, cnet, cnn.com, banking, emails, God only knows how many Craigslist searches, xda-developers, MDW.com, DF.net,the mikkik.com, and probably a lot more than am listing. So it goes to show that CM7 and my Ext battery are in love and am a happy camper:)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mojonation1487:
it takes a couple days for it to adjust. I had 12 hours for a whole battery. Now at 2+ days. chill out.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mustang302LX:
Lol I'm chill. I'm going to try my extended battery for a day or so before thinking of switching. I have loved CM7 for a while so its hard to leave lol.

Sent from my Thunderbolt running CyanogenMod 7 using the Tapatalk app.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 2k10MBC300SPT:
I asked this question but didn't really get an answer, If I choose GV, youmail or phonefusion as my VM service, Do i need to delete my VVM service off of my verizon Service? I don't like retrieving my VMs via ol skool *86 anymore. I feel like am disrespecting this SIMPLY AMAZING work of art ROM..LOL
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 2k10MBC300SPT:
Mustang, you'll see a major difference in battery life w/ext batt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] THATTON:
The extended battery is the best money I've EVER spent on my Thunderbolt!!! No joke!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] PineTre3:
how did you disable or enable updates on the G+ app?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CBMC:
The extended battery is a must on this phone. I have only run it down a couple of times when I was streaming hours of video over 4g. Most days with fairly heavy use I am still at over 50% by days end. It is 2x larger capacity, so that would mean, on a standard battery I would be running it down almost every day. I do notice though that battery drain is all over the board. I can't say which rom had better battery life. Sense gb and cm7 seem similar. I think froyo gave me the best battery life, but again, nothing has been drastically different between roms.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mbreezy:
There's no way to disable updates on the G+ app. You can kill notifications, but that's about it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bilbobrian:
I thought you could uncheck g+ in sync settings?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mustang302LX:
Yeah on Sense based ROMs it was lasting more than double of the stock battery. Def. worth the cost! Hopefully it's the same on CM7!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Absolute_Zero:
You can disable synching in Accounts and Syncs or just log into your G+ account online, click the gear at the top right and select "Google+ Settings". It will list all the different kinds of notifications and let you select to disable push for each (uncheck what you dont want) or all ("Don't notify me" under delivery preferences).
[Thunderbolt Android Development] PineTre3:
gotcha am i correct that there isn't like an update intervel setting in the app?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jr4000watts:
hey guys quick question, does cm7 and wireless tether play well? thinking of making the change tonight.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ricwhic414:
GPS stopped working today. Im on RC1.2 and the latest radio release.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] stearic:
Sorry if this has been answered before, but i don't see the option in google talk to do video chats between other gtalk users who have the capability. Is this not in cm for the TB yet or is there something wrong with my setup?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Absolute_Zero:
No, they're push notifications. They aren't checked every X period of time. They are pushed to your app as they are sent.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ray5780:
gps stopped working for me today but i waited it out and it started working again. Try erasing the agps data in gps status.

Is there a reason why busybox isn't updated to the latest?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ScoobarSTI:
Just wanted to say thanks got GPS working. I'm officially in love with cm7

Sent from zeus's thundrbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CBMC:
Quick question. Is there anyway to add lower limits in the auto backlight settings that are higher than 4095? I notice three of the preset levels (5000, 8000 and 10240). However when I try to enter numbers higher than 4095 it won't let me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Screwbal:
Anyone else know of a fix for this or can confirm if this doesn't work on CM7 1.2 at least? This was working for me the other day on BAMF 1.8.6 but has been dead for days or as long as i've been on CM7 anyways
[Thunderbolt Android Development] farkmeil:
That's actually great...

Sent from my Thunderbolt running the latest CM.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CBMC:
Won't work on cm7 at the present. Might never work with cm7.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tommy m:
Does anyone have wifi tether working on this build? When I try and connect my xoom it wont get an IP address?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] PineTre3:
^agree with these guys i get like 3days maybe a little more with my extended battery on this rom lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mustang302LX:
Yeah I own one and will try it next few days. It lasts a while on Sense so hopefully same for this.

Sent from my Thunderbolt running CyanogenMod 7 using the Tapatalk app.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] obeygiant:
Search for the lithid gapps and flash on top of what you have running and you will see the video chat option in gtalk.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] obeygiant:
Here ya go. This is just a modified gapps with gtalk video enabled. I take no credit for this, I'm just reposting it.

http://db.tt/OpbQ9u0
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jodiuh:
Same here.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xbostonIrishx:
After using this ROM for a couple of days, all I can say is WOW!

Aside from a couple of issues with the phone not ringing at first, and my notifications, this is a pretty amazing ROM. I fixed the ringer issue, and the notifications seems to have fixed itself.... I think. LOL.....

Battery life! AMAZING!

4g works great!

GPS worked fast, no issues waiting for it to lock on.

MMS- works!

upload photos to facebook, works!

And it seems to run with more available memory than any other ROM I have seen. I continually have over 300 mem available when I look at my task killer widget.

I was running FRYO Roms, waiting for the Gingerbread Roms to get the bugs worked out. And I was being lazy and didn't want to have to flash a new radio. Glad I made the switch.....

In short, Gingerbread is to FRYO, what Windows 7 is to Vista. in comparison.

(Please don't get me confused as a windows lover, I only have a small portion of my HD partitioned for it in case the need ever comes up, which has not happened in a verry long long time.)

Time for me to go find a donate button..... have a good day people.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] psufan5:
I understand what you are saying, but its a sugar pill. Those companies lie about their ratings to sell batteries. When they are actually tested, they come out at or below stock.

The only one I would get is the HTC extended battery which adds bulk to your phone. Other than that, I guess an extra battery is ok to have.

Not a debbie downer. Just giving you facts you dont want to hear. /shrug
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
I noticed this too - you might be able to use a sql lite editor to edit the settings db. i havent tried this but it may be worth a shot.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] stearic:
Where are you getting this info that it may never work in CM7? I know it's working on the HTC Evo on CM7 so there is no reason why they wouldn't be able to get it to work on the Thunderbolt. Me thinks someone is just talking out there ass on this.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rulevoid:
Use the built in tethering, it's native. Just add a toggle to the notification bar widgets and set your SSID and password settings and voila, no need for any 3rd party applications to tether and you have the most convenient toggle ever, all included thanks to Google.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
I'm getting pretty solid battery numbers - like 15 hours. 4g on 24/7, bluetooth when i listen to music, plants vs zombies, everything google (mail, docs, books, g+, cal, etc) is synced with bg data on, etc.

Idle drain is like 1% per hour. Stock kernel on MR2 OTA radio.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bratliff:
I could not get the native tethering to work. But I am using wireless tether now..
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Chris Hansen:
What facts? You've given nothing but hearsay. Facts need proof last I checked. Here's a review I wrote on Droid Forums about mine back in March, based on actual results:

You guys need to stop spreading rumors. As I said previously, if you have facts, great, please share, but make sure to back them up.

Thrown by Zeus himself
[Thunderbolt Android Development] psufan5:
It has been proven with very good charts and actual hardware. I dont really care to search for it, but if your heart desires, go find it.

The 1600mah battery from seidio for instance, was about 5% less power than stock. 1700 isnt much more, and still made by a company that BSs their numbers. Dude I dont care to argue with you, the facts are there if you want to look for them. Im not going to find them for you, because frankly I dont care. Just trying to give you some advice, take it or leave it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] psufan5:
I dont even know why I humored you, but here you go. Your battery is no different than these:

http://batteryboss.org/

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2158027

/done
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Morkai Almandragon:
I have just read your link and am very disappoint.

It is a sad day when people with unfounded opinions think it is ok to come to a site where people are looking for facts, and relentlessly post facts with no back up data. It is only made worse when you link to data that is just as easily unfounded by a table that anyone could have made up. There are no pictures of the process, no real proof that any work or tests what so ever were done.

I really do not see why you feel the need to besmirch the good names of the cooperations that are manufacturing these batteries. These companies are obviously honest and produce quality products, I mean after all, they tell us they are quality right?

If you have not figured it out, this post is completely bull****, and here only because this train was getting way to serious. It did make for a good troll snack though:)

edit: that link was awesome and thanks for it!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jr4000watts:
Would Verizon see this or does it work like wireless tether on the low lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tommy m:
I can't get either to work, both won't get an IP. ( native and wiring tether)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] psufan5:
My version of wireless tether is working perfectly.. which version are you using?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mustang302LX:
It's also a fact that not every single battery lasts the same amount of time, regardless if they are rated the same. My stock battery sucks big time even on CM7 while others claim 20+ hours of "moderate to heavy usage." Unless you get several of those batteries and do a few cycles on them on multiple devices simultaneously these "facts" are skewed.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wtfmate913:
On wifi all night with screen off....but nice!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wraithdu:
So GPS is working fine for me. But I'm worried about network location. It seems to work fine in Maps, it gets within a few blocks of me here at work. But it doesn't seem to work all the time in my weather apps - Beautiful Widgets and SiMi Clock. Those two seem to update inconsistently. Anyone else see this behavior?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CBMC:
Thanks for the idea. However when I edit the record it just resets the defaults. Oh well, the defaults are fine, I just wanted to play with the ramp up by adding more levels.

I meant on the thunderbolt cm7. That being said, I think that if one of the developers worked on it they could get it working. However, I seriously doubt that it is one of their priorities. That may change though with the new tiered data plans. For now, I just use my browser to check my data.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Absolute_Zero:
/sigh

http://goo.gl/378RH
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Chris Hansen:
That's funny, last I checked, I didn't own any of the phones listed on battery boss's chart. So my different phone with its different battery (both stock and aftermarket) can really learn a lot from you and your smug response. I've done actual comparison tests with my phone and both batteries as well as my phone vs my coworker's. He sits 5 feet away and we have the same case with similar setup, yet I always seem to have the better results. Odd how that works. So since I asked you to test drive an Evo and you instead drove the Lancer, you have lost any credibility whatsoever with me. This isn't the first time I've seen that chart either, by the way, so keep your smug, unintelligent remarks to yourself next time. Thanks.

Thrown by Zeus himself
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
makes sense. on 4g i get idle drain of 1%/hr, you are getting a little less idle drain because wifi uses less energy than 4g.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Auronis1:
CM7/MR2 OTA I had GPS issues, Google maps could find me easy but GPS was waiting for signal endlessly, this old fix worked for me:

Download GPS Status from Market (free)

Menu > Tools > Manage A-GPS state > Reset

Menu > Tools > Manage A-GPS state > Download

Launch Navigation and go!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wraithdu:
While mine is not a GPS issue at all, I do appreciate the link, as it did point out a fix. Enabling WiFi resolved network location? Very odd. OPs should add that to the known issues in the CM7 troubleshooting threads.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
does network location work on stock/sense roms?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Morkai Almandragon:
Look man, I get where you are coming from, I do. But I very much think you need to check yourself and your attitude. While you have said nothing technically wrong, you come off very combative and quite frankly offensive.

And I am not in any way on the other guys side here. Hell I don't even remember his name. I just see you escalating this issue into exactly what is does not need to be. Have a drink, smoke a joint,get laid, fap, take a deep breath, WTF ever it takes please, but leave this kind of negativity off the forums.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sparta31:
On Stock or Extended Battery?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wraithdu:
I was running Synergy before switching to CM7, and yes, network location was working fine.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] m00nshake:
Test 3 link down for me as of 08:56 EDT...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 6spdsc4:
9:00am EST and Test 3 link isn't working for me....interesting...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] psufan5:
Actually anything pertaining to CM7 is on topic.. .thus... the TOPIC. You cant dispute facts as simple as this unless you just want to argue about something out of sheer boredom. Talking about your LTE/3G not working when there are 3-4 threads in the general section is called clutter. Nothing like having to page back to try to find out when Test3 was released because everyone is whining about their 3G not working without doing even a hint of research.

End of story and last time ill say it. You know im right, you just want to argue for the sake of arguing.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] m00nshake:
I think it's due to the fact cyanogenmod dot com is also down... that's what others in IRC channel are stating...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] althornin:
For all those *****ing about 1X only:

"Verizon's eHPRD 3G network is down right now. This is the specialized 3G network used only on the Thunderbolt and supports voice and data at the same time and faster 3G/4G switching. Until this is fixed you can manually fix this by dialing ##778# and hitting send in your dialer. The password is 000000. This will take you to your programming screen. Go to modem settings and then Rev A, change it to enabled and then hit the menu button on your phone and commit the changes. It will tell you to reboot and the problem will be fixed as you will now use the standard Rev A 3G networked used on all other Verizon 3G devices and of course if you have 4G it will use that if its available."

Note that I quoted from an external link because i dont have enough posts to post the link...

The deal is that the LTE network is down, and for those of us in 4G areas, the eHPRD network is also down, so we get no 3G either...

You are welcome. Note: This fix doesn't work on CM7, but it does work on stock roms.

Perhaps Devs could fix or add the option in CM7...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] intangibleDroid:
Test 3 link is dead for me. Also seems that gerrit is down as well.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Orio56:
Don't know if this is the right place, but if anyone can help, I would appreciate it.

I flashed CM7 last night, loaded GAPPS, and the market was updating my apps, when I noticed none of the apps were updating. updates were all failing. I went into recovery and restored BAMF 1.5 remix. Now I have a problem. I can not download or update anything from the Market, all attempts fail. I cannot access CW recovery, the HTC white screen is as far as I get. I deleted rom manager, and tried to access CW recovery and still failed. I tried to do a factory reset, and still only get white HTC screen. Tbolt is functioning, I just can't fix my issue. Please help. Thanks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pman555:
Thinking of installing CM7 for the first time ever.

I've been running BAMF for the past few weeks.

Is there a "beginners guide" to CM7 anywhere? Is it much different than installing any other ROM?

Anything important I need to know? Anything additional I need to install other than the ROM itself?

Thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mojonation1487:
have you tried fix permissions ;) I wouldn't doubt that would fix it
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mojonation1487:
It's stock android. So no tutorial there. Installs just like every other rom. Make sure to do a FULL wipe. You'll need to install gapps which is found in rom manager.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mattgyver83:
In an effort to keep this thread on topic please respond to my PM and I will try to assist you.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pman555:
Thanks for the information, very helpful.

Now, not to sound too ignorant, but if its basically stock android, what is so special about CM7?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mojonation1487:
All the customization you can do with it. It's amazing. Lightning fast. It's actually better than stock android. THIS build on the other hand, I would steer clear from. Not a daily driver for the majority. Still too buggy. Prolly in a couple weeks there should be a solid build available.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dbisch:
Stock Android is faster, more stable and doesn't include all the bull**** from manufacturers. It's the REAL Android experience. It's similar to buying a pre-built computer at Best Buy. It's bogged down with crap you don't need. Once you install a fresh copy of Windows it's smooth sailing from then on.

CM's website is down but just go to the Wikipedia. It will give you all the info you need about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod
[Thunderbolt Android Development] inline6power:
There is nothing stock about cm7. It's totally aosp Gingerbread

Sent from my rooted Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Aerogriff:
Although, that may be up to the user to decide. Because for some of us it's running very smoothly, but others are having trouble.

Mines been solid up until these Verizon outages.