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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] PoXFreak:
UPDATE!:

Went home and installed kernel update on the test phone and left it to run untouched.

I checked it this morning and it only dropped to 74% battery over 3 days.

Installed update on my personal Kaiser and what used to drain the battery down to 25-35% (apps, facebook, messaging, phone) has only taken 27% battery as of this posting.

Note that I take the phone off charge at around 5am.

I'd say 27% with moderate usage across 10 or so hours is a good thing.

Will update again after a day or so...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gpz1100:
With all the different kernel threads and other posts related to governor settings, one trend appears common. Many are stating their configuration as using a particular governor at a particular cpu min/max speed. This information is incomplete because there are other factors at work.

These other factors are the governor parameters. A governor by itself simply defines the logic used to scale the cpu speed. Each governor uses these parameters to determine thresholds, levels, frequency max/min's, etc.

These can be found in the location below; note, you need to use root explorer or similar.

/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/

Some governor's have just a single parameter. For example performance only uses scaling_max_freq to set the maximum speed of the cpu. No other adjusts are permitted.

Powersave, on the other hand is the opposite, it's logic forces the cpu to run at the lowest speed at all times as determined by scaling_min_freq setting.

Ondemand builds on this and gives us more options:

up_threshold

scaling_max_freq

scaling_min_freq

sampling_rate

powersave_bias

ignore_nice_load

Conservative builds on Ondemand and offers these additional settings:

down_threshold

sampling_down_factor

freq_step

More information on the above governor's can be found here

Finally, there's there is something called smartass, which combines elements of conservative with a screen off profile. It offers parameters: (see lines 62-130 here

down_rate_us

up_min_freq

sleep_max_freq

sleep_wakeup_freq

awake_min_freq

sample_rate_jiffies

ramp_up_step

max_cpu_load

min_cpu_load

max_ramp_down

As you can see, you're given quite a bit of flexibility in configuration. Also, it's worth mentioning that there is some overlap. Conservative can be setup such that it closely mimics ondemand or performance; same for smartass.

Finally, contrary to what may have been read else where, there is nothing intelligent about smartass. It doesn't learn anything, nor does its logic change the more you use it. It just has more scope in what controls it. With some scripting magic (or setcpu), conservative or ondemand can also have a screen off profile.

From the information in this post and reading the links above, you can see just how much more there is to the whole governor game. More so, how meaningless a governor and low/high cpu freq statement really is.

Ultimately, the point of all this is to find an acceptable balance between performance (user experience), and battery life. In other words, we want to maximize performance while minimizing battery consumption. Achieving this is not so simple. Each device has some deviation, even with identical settings. The stock settings of any given kernel may not be ideal for your individual situation.

If you're trying to tweak this performance/battery balance, you owe it to yourself to be aware and familiar with the content of this thread.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jander6442:
Nice post... a bit redundant, but good to keep floating around also written noob friendly... thanks.

P.S. My dad had a gpz1100 he bored it out to a 1260cc that was a v-max killer.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zacharias.maladroit:
nice post:

the following link offers some more info (I don't quite like the frames of the IBM site and it takes ages to load)

CPU frequency scaling in Linux with cpufreq

thanks !
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wanfaltm:
Hey Everyone,

I just have a few questions for ya'll. But firstly, please forgive me if I missed some of this stuff while searching through here. I have an Evo 4G, but my younger brother has seen some of the cool stuff that I have been able to attain on my phone since I rooted it and stuck CM7 on it.

Now, for the Evo, there are a few of those "One-Click Root" methods. Although until recently you had to have a certain HBOOT number in order to use them. But once that's all accomplished, it's as simple as loading a custom rom and kernel on my memory card and going into recovery and flashing it. Simple as that.

So, I came over here and things seem to be (to me at least) slightly more complicated. Which I'm assuming may have to do with all of the different versions of the SGS out.

Note: I should probably mention somewhere that this phone is stock 2.1 (for some reason he was never able to download Froyo to his phone and install it.)

First Question:

For the one click root methods for the Captivate, will they all work? Or will I need to download certain drivers and such from google and samsung to get it working? And slightly less of a question but still a question nonetheless, is there 64 bit support for said drivers if necessary? HTC seems to only like x86 architecture -_-.

Second Question:

I have seen different kernels that are OC-able and some that arent, some that provide "lagfix" and some that don't. So my question here is, do I only need to install a lagfix kernel once? Or is it safer to always have a kernel that has lagfix? And as far as OC goes, Im assuming its the same "Not all phones can handle said performance increase so beware" kind of deal?

Third Question:

I keep seeing different Modem .zip's in the captivate forum. And to be honest I have no idea what they're used for, the closest thing to that I have to that is the antenna and PRL updates. So, are they used for getting better service? Or for unlocking HSPA+? PLEASE enlighten me.

Thanks to all of those who took their time to read this! :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adseddie:
How do I change my recovery back to clockwork from amun ra.

I used the unrevoked method to root my desire. For some reason I flashed the amun ra recovery. I want to put clockwork back on.

I've tried using unrevoked to load a custom image, and using rom manager. neither of these methods work.

Could anyone help as I cant find another way by searching the forum.

Thanks in advanced
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dzumagos:
if you want to get new recovery with unrevoked, you would have to run a RUU and unroot, then root again,with clockwork.

other options you have:

1) fake-flash.zip of CWM recovery - you would boot normally into AmonRa, then choose to flash the .zip file of CWM, and CWM would boot up - however you'd have to do that every time, and if for some reason your SD would corrupt or smth you would have only AmonRA.

2) the only other way is being S-OFF, and flashing CWM through fastboot. go to desire TUT section, and find a video 'how to set up adb'. do it, then s-off your device (if you already havent) and take it from there, there are numerous tutorials how to do it :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adseddie:
Thank-you for the prompt reply.

I have just S-OFF my desire using alpharev method and installed the custom recovery that came with it.

Much happier now :)
[Galaxy S II General] shabs52:
Hey everyone,

I hope someone can answer this question for me. Ive played an order from Clove already and they'll have phone in stock on May 1st and will ship on the 3rd. I landed upon Handtec just today and they say they'll receive stock on 27th of April and ship the next day. So ofcourse... I'm thinking about cancelling from Clove and just ordering from Handtec.

Question here is if anyone knows whether cancelling from Clove will be a problem if I just send them an email and ask them to do so? And in the meantime Ill just place order on Handtec right away. I've emailed clove to cancel already but before placing an order on Handtec I thought i'd just ask here. Main reason I'm wanting to know now instead of waiting for a response is because Handtec says they still have stock from first batch available so I wanted to get in on that.

Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy S II General] merkman:
FYI... I had a TON of trouble ordering from Handtec. Unlike most web sites, like Amazon.co.uk, HMV, and many others... even AFTER Handtec had charged my credit card for the Samsung Galaxy S II, they insisted I provide a copy of my driver's license, a business card with the business address (since that was where I wanted the phone sent, so they could sign for delivery, etc.), and more. After two weeks of trying to make them happy, they STILL wanted more information. I indicated I'd NEVER had to give so much info in the past, and if they couldn't ship my order with what I'd sent... I wanted my money back. They cancelled the order within 30 minutes, and I'm stuck waiting for a credit and not expected the 32GB phone I'd ordered.

Frankly, I've never had such terrible service and I'd suggest sticking with Clove for the couple days difference.
[Galaxy S II General] shabs52:
oh really? that bad huh? someone told me that clove is great with service so they'll cancel just fine. so.. I already ordered from Handtec. I hope this doesnt happen because the difference is basically a week (April 28 vs March 3) considering that march 7/8 will be weekend so I wont get it till the week after.

im having it delivered to my house which has same address as paypal, billing, and delivery so hopefully there wont be as many problems.
[Galaxy S II General] shabs52:
I wonder if its better to just tell Clove to not cancel anything and instead just cancel with Handtec right away?
[Galaxy S II General] QuboidRC:
I got my HTC Desire from them a year ago, it went perfectly and the phone arrived the day before it was expected (1 day after it was released).
[Galaxy S II General] shabs52:
are you in UK or international though? and are you talking about handtec?
[Galaxy S II General] mickliq:
I cancelled Clove on Thursday and ordered from Handtec. Clove acknowledged they will cancel via email. The email was a little odd, said they had already charged my card and it will take 4-5 days for the refund to appear, but probably just a generic email since it was a pre-order and they hadn't charged my card yet.

I'm hoping I don't have any ordering issues with Handtec. I don't mind providing card statements for proof of address if required. For Handtec, I paid with AMEX via PayPal. I'm hoping they take the address being the same as my PayPal address as "proof of ID". I did get a PayPal confirmation of payment in addition to Handtec's.
[Galaxy S II General] shabs52:
i did the same, paid with paypal so all 3 adresses are exactly the same. i emailed clove again and asked them not to cancel just yet, ill wait for a response from handtec first. Also cause i added a few accessories to the handtec order and seems like none of the accessories are available during launch ... so i guess they'll probably ask me to pay shipment later for accessories which im fine with.. just as long as it doesnt delay the phone's shipment.

thanks for your response by the way, now i dont feel too bummed out about ordering from handtec
[Galaxy S II General] madmack:
i'm really tempted to do the same and cancel my clove order.

one week earlier + savings of about 15 pounds. hmmmm

Edit:

can't

resist

went ahead and ordered with handtec as well. I'll keep my clove order there until the 28th. If that bad boy ships from handtec, i'm cancelling my clove order right away.
[Galaxy S II General] shabs52:
I'm going to call Handtec in the morning and make sure it'll be in the first batch of shipments, specifically the ones shipping out on 29th. I'll post here with what they tell me.

edit: heh good idea, ill keep my clove order till 28 or so as well
[Galaxy S II General] QuboidRC:
Sorry, yes, that was Handtec, to a residential address (same address as payment was from). I am in Northern Ireland so it is part of the UK, but deliveries often take a day longer than on the mainland. It was shipped on the day it was released, so the equivalent of 27th April, and delivered the next day.
[Galaxy S II General] Funkym0nkey:
This is standard procedure many stores follow if you are first time customer with them.

Even clove will tell you to provide 2 address proofs for international orders for the first time. (same address that is on file with CC bank / company ).

But dealing with clove was butter smooth. Last year I had ordered from them couple of times. But they verified my documents the same day and shipped the order on time. Second time, nothing was needed.

Most companies do this to protect themselves. Retailer / etailer is always at higher risk of chargebacks in case of frauds. They tend to play safe (unless you are as big as amazon :P ) as dealing with chargebacks is PITA.
[Galaxy S II General] shabs52:
So looks like Handtec isn't that bad after all then. Awesome.
[Galaxy S II General] rwc3b:
I'm on the same boat and am seriously contemplating ordering from Handtec. But from all the positive experience people have had from Clove, I'm a bit reluctant to switch over. Especially since Handtec has been pretty uncertain in emailing me their proper ETA dates

For those that know, are these two companies pretty much even? Or is one more reputable than the other?

With the cheaper phone price and earlier delivery, I'm tempted but something is telling me Clove will do the business. After all, a week difference between the two is huge and it's telling me somethings missing. Perhaps Clove may very well ship earlier than expected.

I just can't see how Handtec, at a cheaper price and earlier delivery, still has open orders for the first batch. Isn't this phone supposed to be da bomb in ridiculous demand?
[Galaxy S II General] shabs52:
well what i'm doing is keeping the clove preorder for now, if handtec actually ships when they're saying they will... then ill cancel clove right away. otherwise ill cancel handtec's. Also i got an email response from Clove saying they will be shipping starting May 3rd (so not before that) and someone mentioned somewhere earlier that ... they're not supposed to be released til 1st may but that if Handtec ships them on 29th, people wont get them til May 1 anyway so they're not breaking any release date rules.

anyway i'll contact handtec in the morning and see what they say.
[Galaxy S II General] rwc3b:
I'm just stressing more than I should about this. If Clove is aware of their competitors shipping at an earlier date and having their customers cancel their pre-orders because of it, wouldn't they want to do something about it?

For me, Handtec's offer is too good to be true. Sure it's logical to put in two pre-orders and cancel the other one. But is there a chance it may backfire? Perhaps there's a change in shipping date to either site and then it turns out one ships a day before the other and it'll be too late to cancel.
[Galaxy S II General] shabs52:
well ill wait till 28 or 29 and see what happens with handtec, if nothing ill cancel and keep my clove order. otherwise.. if handtec does ship that day then awesome, i get it a week earlier. clove doesnt seem to have any indication that they will be shipping before 3rd, they said there's a holiday or something which is why they arent shipping on 1st or 2nd.

edit: also clove's site says that you can cancel a pre order anytime before it ships AND that if the shipment date has changed they will confirm with you if you want to go ahead or not. so having said that if they change from may 3rd to earlier they'll notify.. if not then there it is.
[Galaxy S II General] soraxd:
has anyone tried talking to clove and figuring out why theyre waiting till may 1st, when handtec is sending theirs out 27/28th? clove should move up their date..
[Galaxy S II General] mansoorkasmi:
i am a bit worried, i have ordered it from handtec & i have used a friends credit card to do so & my delivery address is at my home, we both live in different cities & I dont know what handtec will do @ security check!!

i dont want them to delay my shipment because of that
[Galaxy S II General] dhruvmalik:
It would be advisable to call them and speak to them directly. I wouldnt state that you have used a credit card on a different person's name but would confirm the status of your order and the shipping address.

Ask them whether if "All Izz Well"? ;)
[Galaxy S II General] asad510:
mastercard and visa offer this - mastercard call it securecode and visa call it verified by visa

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2452/3566687928_88a65535dc_o.jpg

example screen above pops up just after you order
[Galaxy S II General] OHDUSER:
oh.. that.. well I never signed up for those so what will I need to do?

EDIT: thanks for the picture :)

now, can sageway accept internetional cards that are not UK issued?
[Galaxy S II General] asad510:
when it pops up just sign up for it - it helps big time when ordering online

you can use sagepay for international cards
[Galaxy S II General] OHDUSER:
ok so ill use sageway I guess.. but now.. handtec or clove.. who has MORE chances of NOT asking for additonal details?
[Galaxy S II General] tublah:
I used Google Checkout and used my MasterCard. Billing/Shipping address are the same - I've had no problems. I verified with Handtec that all was well and they said they did not need any further information from me.

*shrug* We'll see come Monday/Tuesday, right?
[Galaxy S II General] Beards:
I am getting sick and tired of certain members thinking just because I have known Chris Love & Clove for 20yrs I have some form of hidden biased agenda with them.

Let me tell you when Clove get it wrong with the members here (and they sometimes do) I am straight on the phone to sort it out.

I am a 58yr old senior consultant surgeon who enjoys participating on XDA-DEVS & Android Forum. Being here gives the right form of distraction needed from some of the medical situations I have dealt with.

As said I have dealt with Clove for the past 20yrs (since Clove first started). Clove know my profession and role at XDA/DEVS & Android Forum and are always happy to listen.

It is because I have known them for so long we have a mutual trust of each other, learning strengths and weaknesses.

That is it, I have nothing further to gain with Clove.... period.

I was going to suggest to netnerd if he was not getting anywhere with his price-match with Clove, providing he had written prof they actually agreed to price-match then to send me the details and I would sort it out for him.

However, what is the point when I now read these messages that all I am doing is being biased.

I have had enough..... the topic is yours.
[Galaxy S II General] tublah:
Haters gonna hate...
[Galaxy S II General] rwc3b:
Sorry Beards

I guess some of the Clove customers are upset that there was a last minute delay in shipping the phone, especially when other places are shipping earlier and at a cheaper price.

I'm personally upset because they told me it could be delivered by May 6th so I can have it before the weekend. Now, with the delay, they may ship on May 6th. This will make me look forward to the beginning of the work week instead of the weekend.

Who, in their right mind, will want the weekend over with and can't wait for Monday to start?

The phone is driving me crazy.

I've been waking up 5am just to check for updates
[Galaxy S II General] madmack:
I hear ya, same impatience and Clove preorder here. Think about it, few more days at worse case scenario.. gotta be patient !!!! I put in my mind the worse case scenario so that I would be happy with a surprise shipment on the 3rd or 4th if it ever happens *fingers crossed*.
[Galaxy S II General] rwc3b:
Positive thinking! I'm getting the SGS2 for Xmas
[Galaxy S II General] Beards:
OK.... One last post then I'll give you back this topic.

Don't forget guys, you still have not received your Phone's yet from Handtec.

The Wholesalers don't ship out until Tuesday 3rd May.

Clove are just being cautious in not saying they will ship that day. Hence why they are now saying commencing Wednesday 4th May.

With the number of orders they have to ship it will take a couple of days to get them all out.

Okay... I am done.
[Galaxy S II General] OHDUSER:
which store will have more stock? because im an outsider and I hope there will be something left for me.. gotta pre order tomrrow..
[Galaxy S II General] shabs52:
Yeesh beards... let it go already. lol
[Galaxy S II General] Foxdraed:
I have been following these forums for quite a while now! I pre-ordered with Clove but I gotta admit that I never tried Handtec. I know sometimes the wait is unbearable but from my transaction with Clove, I gotta say that if I go back in time I will still buy this device from them, even though Handtec is saying that it will ship the device before Clove.

I gotta agree with Beards, I presume that Handtec promised the 27th as a date just to pre-order with em and then look what happened. They kept pushing the dates. When i pre-ordered with Clove in one e-mail I even received that I might get my device with the second batch, however than I received a confirmation that my order is going to be shipped with the first batch. I really like their policy that they prepare you with the worst case scenario if they are not 100% certain. They only went back from their words twice -> NFC and shipping dates from 3rd to 4th. The NFC thing probably was not their fault but rather Samsung's.

Last but not least I really think that they will ship all the devices on the 4th. They only said that to make sure they will not disappoint any customers =) What is the difference between a day or two? I really liked their service for being completely honest with me and I will definitely buy from them again. I completely agree with Beards and this guy only has good intentions.

I am going to end my post with this, I'd rather buy the device from a seller that posted the correct shipping dates from the start (remember that clove had the dispatch date on the 3rd, all the time) than buy it from a shop that promised me to ship it on the 27th and then delaying the shipping dates. I am simply assuming that the early shipping dates was just a trick to attract more customers.
[Galaxy S II General] HumanoidTalking:
You are right mate, Honest service from them.. There price didnt changed, 1st retailer to announce no NFC. The problem with some people is that they become to judgmental.. Since its a public forum every one got freedom to talk
[Galaxy S II General] Foxdraed:
Yup! I think the wait is killing them and it is clouding their reasoning :P Furthermore I should add that I just can' t wait to get my hands on this device because my current mobile phone is a Samsung E-900 :P So it s going to be a totally different experience xD
[Galaxy S II General] asad510:
That's one great upgrade. Clove said delivery 3rd May but now state 4 5 or even 6. Dates are prone to change but if you want stock asap then handtec is your best route
[Galaxy S II General] vimto25:
LG Cookie FTW! lol :D
[Galaxy S II General] madpete:
Come on guys, a few more days and our phones will ship...after which this whole Clove vs Handtec war wont matter anymore.

Believe me I want this phone as much as anyone, I was following Orion from the second I heard about it last year. I've been on hear everyday, every hour since feb...I've googled i9100 and Galaxy S2 every day a dozen times. I pre-ordered from handtec the first day it went up on their webpage...

Lets just chill out have a beer, (or whatever your posion) and focus on new info and helping each other out, we dont need the negitivity do we?

Happy thoughts, not long to go...whoever you ordered from :D
[Galaxy S II General] madmack:
+1

its precisely why I canceled my handtec order for clove's. I'd rather deal with honest guys for warranty issues (if i will ever need any) than handtec's. I felt betrayed when i saw them push the dates !! what a trap to lure customers in, myself included.