yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
It all depends on the usb port and/or drivers, windows is a ***** getting it to pick up sometimes, its very picky...thats the good thing about linux and heimdall, just plug it in and go..dont have to worry about that :P
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
yeah but odin isnt supposed to turn yellow without download mode.

last week i know it didnt. ive never had issues while in download mode.

but it has never seen my phone while booted. its not supposed too.

but now it is. im on ginger now.. only thing ive changed..

im confused. but i'll avoid the temptation of flashing anything. just WEIRD... ill go ask adamoude.... adam what he thinks.

thanks again!!
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
About cwm. When I select clear battery stats, it doesn't show the action completed at the bottom like it does when I clear dalvik or anything else. Is it clearing stats, or is there a problem?
[Captivate Android Development] KonaZXIII:
I just installed the update using the Odin3 v1.30 that Cezar packaged with C5b1 and everything went smooth.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
It does clear it, just a bug in cwm well not really a bug, it just doesnt tell it to print that it wiped it..but ill make it so it says it cleared it
[Captivate Android Development] AdamOutler:
odin looks for a usb gadget. However unless download mode is active, download protocol cannot be used. I've tried without being in download mode and it fails.
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Just making sure. Since I have the charging bug, I'm just looking for anomolies that may help fix it.
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
thanks.. just really weird never had it do this before...
[Captivate Android Development] Xtracter:
Is there any particular reason why i went from mid 1800's quadrant score on 0.1.5 to 1300's on 0.1.6..??? lol
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
You could have one more app running than last time..etc..the very SMALLEST thing can effect quadrant scores.. Mine goes from 1800 to 2300 to 2100...then might go to 1600... you cant base anything on quadrant..run it a few times in a row and i bet it changes everytime
[Captivate Android Development] Xtracter:
Quad scores aren't a huge deal to me by any means.. i was just curious as to why there was such a huge drop. I ran it multiple times and this was when i only had 1 app running. Who knows.. lol
[Captivate Android Development] kennonk:
Just flashed Talon 1.6 over 1.5 on GR-11 and it went very smoothly. It seems like things are MUCH more responsive on the UI now. Previously pressing the power button to turn on the screen had a full one second lag. Now it is like it used to be on the 2.2 roms, immediate. Thank you!
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Well one thing that could cause it is that with 0.1.5 I had some OOM rework/fixes and removed them in 0.1.6.. what happens is, with the way it was in 0.1.5, it wouldn't kill processes based on run time, but based on the amount of memory it used. For example, if process A is a long running, big memory process and then process B is ran, kicking in OOMKiller, the way it was in 1.5 would kill process A, since it uses more memory. With the old way, the way it is in 1.4 and now 1.6 (the original way) it would kill process B, since A has a longer run time.
[Captivate Android Development] Yuna:
for me 1.5 is a bit faster... can you make those changes in 1.7?
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
No, thats what was causing all the issues, even talked to zacharias.maladroit and hes had the same issues with new OOM rework/fixes, causing lag and random lockups
[Captivate Android Development] kennonk:
I dont think the upgrade is the cause of the quad score changes. Maybe one thing is that 1.5 defaulted to an OC of 1.2GHz and 1.6 is 1GHz you will need to adjust your OC/UV back to 1.2.

Once I did that my quad scores on GR-11+Talon 1.6 went back to where they were on GR-11 and 1.5.
[Captivate Android Development] Yuna:
oh yeah, it's just 1.2 not being default :)
[Captivate Android Development] lowlymarine:
I think this points out just how worthless Quadrant composite scores are. There's simply no way a benchmark should vary by nearly 50% based on an errant background process (though I've never seen scores anywhere near 2700 - the highest I've ever seen was ~2200, and that was eons ago on Eclair of all things.)
[Captivate Android Development] Yuna:
i have seen myself 3.1K++ scores... ;)
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
2859...usually average 2800..But yea I agree, quadrant is worthless, ive seen my scores go from 2800 down to 1800 back up to 2300 then back to 1600, all right in a row.. The very littlest thing can effect it.
[Captivate Android Development] LNJ:
That's with Stagefright right?

Samsung Galaxy S i896 on Cezar's Continuum v5 GingerBread
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Yea, stagefright @ 1.2ghz

...anyways, lets move on from quadrant before it turns into something bad here :P
[Captivate Android Development] harpo1:
existz are you seeing any kind of issues running stagefright on 1.6?
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
I havent, been says it can break some playback with certain codecs, which ones it effects i dont know..but other than that..no issues
[Captivate Android Development] trekie86:
Maybe I just don't know what I'm doing but how do you adjust for frequencies to 1.2 or 1.0 GHz? I've tried Pimp my CPU but I can only figure out how to adjust the voltages, can't seem to adjust the frequency.
[Captivate Android Development] LNJ:
Have you seen any benefits of enabling it?

I disabled it cause I didn't notice a difference other than quadrant.

Samsung Galaxy S i896 on Cezar's Continuum v5 GingerBread
[Captivate Android Development] studacris:
Voltage control...
[Captivate Android Development] Beny The Kid:
I hate to be that guy that asks for stuff but would it be possible to get a cwm flashable. I like to flash on the run while I'm traveling. Completely understand if you're too busy.
[Captivate Android Development] alexige:
Not sure if this is related to kernel or rom but i dont remember seeing this before updating to 0.1.6. When I booted and the phone does its media scanning and i go to turn the screen off by tapping the power button, it turns the screen back on. Go to turn it off same thing, screen pops back on.

Running Continuum 5.3
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Works fine here ..
[Captivate Android Development] Theodor911:
Use SGS kernel flasher in market... I've had no problems using it to flash any talon kernels
[Captivate Android Development] nybmx:
Mine does this too and has always done this. I'm running continuum so it could be rom related. Either way it's not a big deal to me just letting you know you're not alone.
[Captivate Android Development] Juan Bond:
Hello i am having best quadrant score and stability with GR-11 Talon 1.5

Thanks good job
[Captivate Android Development] alexige:
Yea it doesn't bother me either just noticed what I thought was a change.
[Captivate Android Development] neubauej:
Since going from 1.5 to 1.6 ive noticed that my time in states is almost 100% 1.2 ghz. Just seconds in every other state vs an hour or more at 1.2, and the rest deep sleep.

Any idea why?
[Captivate Android Development] Beny The Kid:
Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
The governor doesn't"ramp up"like they used to. Itgo s straight from state to the other, no in between. Better forbattery life.
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Do the BIGMEM versions have a higher LMK setting than the other versions?
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
The cpu does not scale through all the frequencies like it use to with the conservative governor, when theres load the cpu will scale to max clock..instead of through all the frequencies, making things smoother...it also scales from max clock down to 100mhz when theres no load, instead of having to scale through all the freqs..giving better battery life..

As for LMK settings, they are the same on all versions.. Bigmem just has more available memory, with the new LMK settings it allows more usable memory.. If the Min Free tweak is active in the Tweaks App it will use the new lmk settings from kodos96, if the tweak is disabled it will use Nexus S settings by default (remember that Nexus S settings are not the same as Samsung settings, Nexus S settings are from google)..the original samsung gingerbread settings sucked and were poorly made..
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
At least I was right about the battery life.lol

<out if the blue> I noticed one morning when I unplugged my phone that it had bottomed out at the 400 mhz state. Nothing lower all night. Yes I suffer from the charging bug. Think they might be related, or just an oddity?
[Captivate Android Development] Beny The Kid:
Anyone have any idea why I can't download this on my phone. Out just says download failed. I have linda and es file manager installed.
[Captivate Android Development] trekie86:
I have to enable file downloading in Astro file manager. I don't know if 'es' can do the same thing. Hope that provides some help.
[Captivate Android Development] Beny The Kid:
That did it. Big thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] CuriousTech:
I don't think the time in state values are correct. Mine shows 97% being 400MHz.

I have OSMonitor showing CPU usage in the notification bar with CPU Spy running, and can hit refresh and watch the 400MHz time increase 1 minute every minute while the CPU is sitting at 100MHz.

Correction: It is sitting at 400. For some reason the icon is at the bottom when it's there.

Edit 2: Setting everything to -0mV allows it to go down to 100MHz

Forget it. I can't figure out why it does this. Rebooted, got stuck at 400, deleted S_volt_schedular, changed settings, nothing worked. Turned screen off for 3 mins and back on, now it's using the full range again.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
1.3ghz version is in the works, since tomorrow is mother's day, it will probably be Monday before I release it... and before 100 ppl ask, yes I will go higher, just not right now..so don't ask or I will ignore you!
[Captivate Android Development] LNJ:
Now go get that present for your old lady before she bans you from xda!

Samsung Galaxy S i896 on Cezar's Continuum v5 GingerBread
[Captivate Android Development] H3llstorm:
should Busybox be installed in system/xbin or system/bin?
[Captivate Android Development] LNJ:
System/bin for VC to save settings.

Samsung Galaxy S i896 on Cezar's Continuum v5 GingerBread
[Captivate Android Development] Spidious:
Just installed v1.6, seems faster.

But my Jorte calender widget will no longer show up ?

Correction...It finally came up...Took four times before it would ?
[Captivate Android Development] grkmaster:
:-) I just had to! lol
[Captivate Android Development] gv2112:
OC/UV settings...

For OC I use the 1200000 min 100000 OnDemand, for UV I have the -50 for all but 1200, but Which scheduler are you supposed to use or does it really matter. The doc talks about depends on kernel. Is default SIO ok or should use noop or CFQ?

G
[Captivate Android Development] LNJ:
What app are you using? SIO is default and recommended.

The Interactive governer is better than on demand.

Samsung Galaxy S i896 on Cezar's Continuum v5 GingerBread
[Captivate Android Development] gv2112:
SetCPU and Voltage Control... I was really just curious... thanks...
[Captivate Android Development] gv2112:
So far, I went back to RFS, wiped, reflashed 5.3 and then Odin'd 1.6 and it seems really responsive without EXT4. Not starting a debate, JMO....
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Ext4 is more than just a "lagfix", you might not see a difference flipping through pages or whatnot, but its a more mature, less overhead, reliable, more up to date...and overall an all around better file system IMO... but this is just my opinion, there's more to it than it just being a "lagfix"..and I highly recommend it over RFS.. plus there will be fixes/updates for ext4 over the life of this kernel
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
I recommend SIO scheduler and Interactive governor, that's why I have them default...in my testing they seem to give better results than the others (faster read/write..etc..and the best battery life/performance) .. if I find something else that gives better results I will set them default..but in my conclusion those are the 2 best
[Captivate Android Development] gv2112:
Good to know... thanks for the replies! Back to EXT4 as I always was... just wanted to see if I see the diff yet..
[Captivate Android Development] RashaMatt:
The CWM app also has a "Flash a Kernel" option
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Flashed with Heimdall for the first time. Everything is smooth so far! I agree with people saying it's faster overall. Hope it'll get better than 0.1.5 on battery life.

Finally back on ArchLinux after breaking up the system when switching from KDEmod to KDE. Giving GNOME3 a try now. Looks great so far. :cool: /offtopic
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
must have cmw compatible kernel version.

tar files arent.
[Captivate Android Development] kdot25:
procedure

im currently running perception beta 3 (w/ 1.5).... i want to upgrade to 1.6.

should i:

delete the 2 files from init.d

1.) ram hack

2.) sd hack

then flash to 1.6

then run the tweaks the was provided.

n whats the difference between big ben and the other ones
[Captivate Android Development] neubauej:
I am certainly not trying to argue, but default on my device for 1.6 flashed via odin was deadline.

I did change it to sio...
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Check in Tweaks. If Deadline Scheduler is checked, it may change in VC.
[Captivate Android Development] neubauej:
That was it.

My apologies. Carry on.

:)
[Captivate Android Development] GGXtreme:
Sorry if I missed something, but is CIFS supposed to be working in the latest Talon kernel? It doesn't work for me (and hasn't in any previous build of Talon). CIFS manager says that it mounted successfully, but the mounting point remains an empty folder, and if I leave the CIFS manager app and open it again, it acts like it was never connected in the first place.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
It does for some users, others say it doesn't...I'm thinking some apps are having issues with GB...but there has been some say it works... I'm even using precompiled cifs modules from chainfires thread that works with jvb...other than that there's not much else I can do for cifs ...try a few different apps for cifs and see if it works.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
I recommend to delete the 2 files in init.d and either use the kernel defaults or the ones in the tweaks app... IMO the new lmk/readahead settings (default and values for tweak app, both have been changed) in 0.1.6 are way better ..as for the different versions, the differences are listed in the OP.. one has 341 ram, no logcat, other has 339 ram and logcat...then bigmem has 353 ram but breaks 720p video recording, with no logcat, then other bigmem is 352 ram, no 720p and has logcat
[Captivate Android Development] H3llstorm:
The BigBen mod permanently changes your wallpaper to one featuring the famous clock tower in London, overlaid with an analog clock widget set to London-time.
[Captivate Android Development] GGXtreme:
Hmm, do you know of any particular CIFS app? The only working one I could find while on Froyo was CIFS Manager, but maybe it isn't GB-compatible.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Im not sure, might be able to talk to kodos96, he says it works for him (both TalonDEV kernel and compiling it from my github himself)...
[Captivate Android Development] kodos96:
AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not really available this weekend - will be back on monday with some updates for LMK stuff, but I can pop in just long enough to say that Perception II beta 3 still including Darky's ram hack makes me a very very sad panda.....

HULK SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the colors of the day are "rm /system/etc/init.d/S98ramhack"
[Captivate Android Development] 4-2ndtwin:
existz,

Excellent kernel. Appreciate all your hard work. Just saying...:D
[Captivate Android Development] shoman94:
Thats because it is performing an event like receiving a new text or email. If you click it off... it comes back on for only a few secs then goes back out. Same as when you receive and text for example.
[Captivate Android Development] stuff:
Still getting a slight delay when waking from sleep. using 0.1.6. I'm thinking it might have something to do witht he scheduler but im not sure.
[Captivate Android Development] kodos96:
I've used both CIFSmanager app, and manual mounting via terminal/scripts... both seem to work for me. What are the actual symptoms you'tre seeing? Does the initial mount fail, or does it mount but then you have problems reading from it? What kind of CIFS server are you talking to, a linux samba share or an actual windows machine?
[Captivate Android Development] GGXtreme:
It seems to mount fine, but the actual folder under /mnt/cifs is empty. Even if I use the Home key, bringing up CIFSmanager after going to the home screen or loading another app shows that no shares have been mounted, even though they appear to mount when I select them in CIFSmanager. It's a Windows machine, I can connect to it as a SAMBA share using file managers, but I then I can't open files on the share without first downloading them to the phone. In Froyo, I could open/play files inside /mnt/cifs as if they were on my SD card.
[Captivate Android Development] jamezz23:
I'm gonna flash 1.6 tomorrow, I forget but do you have to convert back to rfs before you flash a kernel? I don't think you have to but I thought I'd ask first.

And also just curious, why do you have like 4 different downloadable 1.6 tar files? Just wondering :D
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
oh wow...

in "tweaks" app i disabled 2 more things:

Kernel Scheduler

VM Swappyness

Deadline (never was)

Conservitave Gov (never was)

Media and touchscreen (never were)

wow is it running smoother now...

@ jamezzz NO
[Captivate Android Development] shane87:
If you are flashing from an earlier version of talon, you don't uave to switch back to rfs.

Tyere are four versions of talon, as follows:

1. TalonDEV 0.1.6.tar: talon 0.1.6 with logcat disabled, 341 mb ram.

2. TalonDEV 0.1.6 debug: talon 0.1.6 with logcat enabled, 339mb ram

3. TalonDEV 0.1.6 bigmem.tar: talon 0.1.6 with logcat disabled, 353mb ram, no 720p video recording.

4. TalonDEV 0.1.6 bigmem debug.tar: talon 0.1.6 with logcat enabled, 351mb ram, no 720p video recording

ROM: Perception II beta 2

Kernel: TALONDEV 0.1.5, voodoo snd v8, chainfire ext4 lagfix

Modem: I9000 ugjk4

HW Build Number: 1101
[Captivate Android Development] xThe Enforcer:
I know, lol... We literally have the same setup so I figured why not jist copy and paste!
[Captivate Android Development] studacris:
The sleep wake lag is a rom issue, should be fixed for you guys on mosaic when the update is released on monday...
[Captivate Android Development] krufttangoud:
Will stage kill GIF suupprt? or why does't this kernel have GIF support?
[Captivate Android Development] johan8:
GIF support ?

What are you talking about ?

All .gif picture can view by buildin photo viewer.

Do you mean animated gif for bootup animation ?

GIF only support 256 colors, you sure you need it ?
[Captivate Android Development] krufttangoud:
Well i meant to say stagefright. and to clarify I mean funny GIFs you would find on reddit for example. on 2.2.1 with speedmod I could open a GIF in xscope and it would work.
[Captivate Android Development] Spidious:
Put this kernel on after going to GB Mosaic..

It was faster, disabled a few of the tweaks. It got even faster.

Converted over to ext4, it was even faster.. Maybe you guys should work for AT&T, they need to learn how to do it right off the bat !
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
actually use to work tech support for them :P
[Captivate Android Development] H3llstorm:
Let me guess - you were fired for lack of incompetence, right? :D
[Captivate Android Development] neubauej:
This does seem to be true.

Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] studacris:
Not to be a stick in the mud, but this kernel has nothing to do with at&t. It s based off the I9000. The source is pure samsung.

Just sayin ... ;)
[Captivate Android Development] H3llstorm:
Shouldn't having Kernel Scheduler turned on improve performance?

Does having VM Swappyness turned on or off use more memory?
[Captivate Android Development] cbalt:
Any chance of a cwm flashable version so i dont have to odin it everytime?
[Captivate Android Development] electroau:
Use sgs kernel flasher from the market, it works and its free
[Captivate Android Development] rivtre:
A quick question here,how do I restore data only from CWM3 recovery:confused:
[Captivate Android Development] GGXtreme:
You can download a CWM3 zip files from the Talon Hourlies thread. Then simply swap the zImage in the ZIP with the one in the tar.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
I ONLY recommend and support flashing with Odin/Heimdall... that's why I only have .tar up... it doesn't take 2s to flash and can be more stable ... any other way of flashing is not recommended...
[Captivate Android Development] krufttangoud:
Just used kernel flasher for the first time. it was super easy and i didnt need a pc at all. flashed 1.6 on the toilet!!
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
WAY to much information
[Captivate Android Development] rivtre:
I tried to delete system.img but turned out "md5 mismatch"
[Captivate Android Development] st4rk:
Hi existz, just coming over to the i9000 thread to ask about future dev'ing. Ytt3r hasn't been around for a while and the hourlies haven't moved on from a may2nd build. I was just wondering if there was any chance work would continue on it? Also are you planning to build on top of jvh kernel once chainfire has done his version?
[Captivate Android Development] CuriousTech:
Go to backup and restore, advanced restore, choose a backup, data only
[Captivate Android Development] upNsmokeAllDay:
Has 0.1.6 given anyone system lag? It got do bad I had to reflash 0.1.4 which has been the most stable for me.
[Captivate Android Development] upNsmokeAllDay:
Sgs kernel flasher works perfect on these .tar files.
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
from a few posts up... try it.

Just a thought

... the tweaks app was built for the i9000 kernel...

@ existz - any chance your changes are conflicting with the tweaks? -sio/kernel schedualer tweak?
[Captivate Android Development] goob1284:
+1! Do most of this kind of stuff when im doing "my duty" as well.. like right now! Haha
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
No, the difference with 0.1.4 and the latest are the lmk settings, with 0.1.4 it kills apps way to early, killing the launcher/browser..etc..(samsung settings, which suck) that's why its "smoother" for some, because nothing is stored in memory...with 0.1.6 and up its the way its suppose to be ...if you disable the min free tweak in tweaks app, it will set nexus s style settings (actual google gingerbread settings, not samsung)...if the tweak is enabled, it sets more multitasking friendly settings, allowing more apps to be stored in memory.. try disabling the tweak if you want optimal settings..
[Captivate Android Development] kitkitfok:
RAM:Min-free

Gives you more memory

You mean disable it? Why it said that gives you more memory? :eek:
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
If the tweak is enabled, it gives you more "usable" memory, allowing more apps to be stored in memory...but more apps will be running in the background, if the tweak is disabled, it does not allow as much,... The tweak does not actually give you more memory, it just allows more apps to be stored in memory before lowmemorykiller kicks in.. allowing more of the 341mb (or 353 if you use bigmem) to be used.. So with it disabled, not as many apps/memory will be used (having more free memory).. Theres a difference in "usable" memory and free memory..