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[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Talon will not work on cognition or any other i897 based roms.. this kernel is an i9000 based kernel reoriented to work on the captivate (only with i9000 based roms. ..anything jvr, jvs, jvt...etc based.. such as Apex) . You cannot mix talon with an i897 based rom..(such as cognition ..etc) But once your using an i9000 based rom, you can then use i9000 modem ..but you need to make sure not to mix rom/kernel/modem.. if your using i897 based roms then use i897 kernel and modem. ..or if your using i9000 based rom, use i9000 reoriented kernel and i9000 modem
[Captivate Android Development] psych0phobia:
Is there an issue with this kernel playing bootanimation.zip (sanim.zip) files that include a looping part? I'm trying to get this working, but not having much luck. It works fine with DarkCore 4.1 kernel and it works fine when running "adb shell bootanimation" with either kernel, but when TalonDev 0.5.2.5 is installed, during actual boot it only shows the images in part0. When it should move on to part1, it just goes black until the boot is complete.
[Captivate Android Development] IDoMy0wnRacing:
I changed the desc.txt file in your boot animation. change the name of it to read "sanim.zip" and place it in the system/media folder and it should work for you.

apexboot.zip
[Captivate Android Development] psych0phobia:
Well, thanks for that. I would never have guessed to mess with the spacing like that. However, it still doesn't quite work. The looping part now at least plays, but only exactly 6 times. It then goes black like before. By the way, I'm testing by removing /data/dalvik-cache/system@app@* to increase the boot time. I guess this is getting a bit off-topic for this thread, but the fact that it works fine on other kernels is a bit strange...

Edit: Exactly 6 times was happenstance. Sometimes it just plays through all files in the archive once and then goes black.
[Captivate Android Development] irishvandal:
existz,

no rush, just wondering.

is there a possible eta on the next release with the oc option in MF? Running solid right now, nothing out of the ordinary. UV seems a little more touchy than in previous versions. great work.

tnx as always.
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
Ok so i downloaded Voodoo Screen Tunning R&D app from market and when i ran i got this error...

I mailed this to the Supercurio(or whatever mail they put in market)

he replied back as...

Does that mean talon don't support this app?
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Talon does not use SGS framebuffer, it uses Nexus S framebuffer, so chances are its not supported
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
oh ok thanks :)
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
Hey existz, in my setCPU it says i can set profiles and use governors such as SmartassV2... is smartassV2 supported? won't make phone unstable or anything? because i saw your changelog and it says its for GPU... :o
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
smartassV2 is the CPU governor.
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
Thanks a bunch :) i'll try and play with profiles and see what comes out of it xD
[Captivate Android Development] white00gt:
Don't know if this has been asked already but can Talon be used on this ICS ROM :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1362092

Reading that without an I9000 reoriented kernal no HSUPA support
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
Nope, Talon is a Gingerbread ROM. It won't even boot in ICS.
[Captivate Android Development] nightblazze:
Hello pikachu01,

Is this something we can do in a configuration file or are you talking about changes from the router perspective?

I have this exact issue and I'm trying to fix it.
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
It's something to be done in the router itself :)
[Captivate Android Development] white00gt:
so we need an ics version along with your tweaks
[Captivate Android Development] RTBee:
There's Talon, TalonMTD, now TalonICS??? :D
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
Hehe, I will try ICS once it reaches a mature stage. For now, I'll stick with Samsung :)

Ask existz ;)
[Captivate Android Development] aalh:
Google named a version of Android Samsung????:p:rolleyes::p
[Captivate Android Development] RTBee:
lol, just prodding a little :D
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
No, I mean, Samsung based ROMs. ICS for now is a CM7 based ROM.
[Captivate Android Development] white00gt:
I believe only one version is a cm7 base(teamhacksungs) the link I posted is supposed to be a nexus port, but I have been wrong before
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
Yeah, what I mean for CM7 is that it's not compiled using Sammy's drivers. Sorry for the confusion again. :S

The modules/drivers are taken from CM7 (all of the ICS builds)
[Captivate Android Development] shane87:
Teamhacksungs port is CM9 based. CM7 is gb, and will always be gb. CM8 would have been honeycomb, but the honeycomb sources were never released. Just like cm6 was froyo. I wonder if the cm-sgs team will release an official Captivate/Galaxy S branch of cm9, like cm7's captivatemtd branch?
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
The drivers are universal (or at least universal enough to be hacked for ICS).

Unless Samsung releases the open source drivers, ICS for now will and always will be CM7 based.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Technically I wouldnt say it is "CM based" this can be misleading , if they are only using device/hardware specific files from CM, then that's only 2-3% of the whole platform, the other 97-98% is AOSP...( remember your talking about 5-7gb of source, its mostly aosp). your only talking about device specific hardware files for SGS, such as audio libs, wifi, camera, GPS blobs...etc.. which theres no way around this since AOSP is not made for SGS. But we are kinda doing the same thing with inspire, using device libs from CM7 , our kernel is same as what we used for CM7/aosp, but with a few modifications for touch screen. Etc
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
Ahh yes, hardware files. In terms of percentage of it used, yes, I should call it AOSP instead.
[Captivate Android Development] white00gt:
I have been on talon forever it has always been good to me any chance of an ICS version maybe you can use the existing kernel and build off of that?
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
First off, congratz for being the most helpful thread on whole xda with the coolest kernel!

Oh i have a question about conservative governor... in setCPU, i saw bunch of governors that i want to use(as much as i know should work theoritcally) in different profiles such as smartassV2(don't know what's V2?) for screen off, interavtiveX for charging, on demandX in call and conservative for low battery.... ok but i can't find conservative in the list so i came back and saw existz has a file for conservative but it sounds permanent(for every boot) :/
[Captivate Android Development] shane87:
I am unsure of whether the script for activating conservative governor will switch you to conservative at each boot. However, to simply make conservative available, is fairly easy. Create a file in /etc/init.d (you will have to mount /system as read/write), and put in the following text:

#!/system/bin/sh

insmod /lib/modules/cpufreq_conservative.ko

After you save the file, give it read, write, and execute permissions for everyone, using root explorer or similar, or a terminal emulator. Reboot and it will allow you to use conservative governor.

Hope this helps!
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
I did the exact steps before your comment and it didn't work... anyways i remember now that i forgot to set permissions lol. ok so this time around i set permissions as 7-5-5 o.O it works and i see conservative in the list now!! xD but does it matter with the permissions? :o

And Thanks a lot!!
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Yes, permissions matter, otherwise it might not be set to be read or allowed to be executed, so permissions are important
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
Thanks existz! it works like a charm :)
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
Will talon be compatible with JVZ(2.3.6) that just came out? :)

http://www.darkyrom.com/community/index.php?threads/xxjvx.5940/page-4#post-123411
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
It will be compatible and run without problems, just like JVW/JVX that runs without problems even though Talon is still not updated to its initramfs.
[Captivate Android Development] white00gt:
@exist

Still no hopes on talon for ics?
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
well i hope so because i couldn't be able to update zips from talon and not even recovery that talon uses until i had to switched to darkcore 4.2.1(yes its new and for jvz) and it worked? o.O
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
You are unable to access the recovery in JVZ?
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
it just dont change anything.. it says it updated in recovery and then nothing happens when it boots up :/

---------- Post added at 06:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:29 PM ----------

and also i cant reach recovery in JVZ lol
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
After flashing JVZ, you'll need to flash Talon first, then only you will gain CWM in recovery. :/
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
is talon can be flashed through odin? because its for cwm3?
[Captivate Android Development] upNsmokeAllDay:
You can use sgs kernel Flasher also.
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
Nope, only through CWM. You will need a CWM + root kernel to flash Talon.

You can flash madrooster's Voodoo kernel first, then Talon. I always go this route and it never failed for me.

And yes, it's safe to flash XXJVU kernel on XWJVZ. It will work fine without problems. Only the lib modules changed, so you won't face any problems from flashing a not too distant kernel version.
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
yeah i'll go that route then flash talon on top of it. lol jeez i had to forced out of talon for this? :o

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Existz, if you're reading this bro please update kernel to JVZ initramfs and with ICS hacks so the kernel still remain backward compatible with lots of goodies attached on its tail :) appreciate your work!
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
Still no su after installing voodoo kernel :/ plan B? because now i cant even go back to any captivate kernel.. :o
[Captivate Android Development] upNsmokeAllDay:
The thread kind of died :(
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
Do a full reflash from stock, then apply again. There must be some steps that went wrong.

Hmm, Existz is busy?
[Captivate Android Development] RTBee:
Most of the Dev's these days are barely out of grade school :o (Yes, I'm feeling ancient), but seriously I know many are still in college and this is finals week for a lot of them. Lots of studying and such. Should pick up again in week or two. :)
[Captivate Android Development] mpencexda:
I am sending Existz a Cappy to dev from as well so that should bring the thread back to life :)
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Can't thank you enough my friend, this will def get things back on track as far as TalonDEV kernel goes.. Already got a few new ideas I've been wanting to do , not having a device has limited me on what I can do, so hopefully this will get the ball rolling

Also will start on adding SGS to my TalonICS rom. The good thing about so many people working on ICS this early is that we will actually start seeing some pure AOSP roms instead of just CM :) the way Google intended it
[Captivate Android Development] mpencexda:
You had me at "TalonICS" DROOL!!!
[Captivate Android Development] white00gt:
Lol, got my attention too
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Just an update for you guys, should be receiving my donar SGS this coming week (huge thanks to mpencexda), so ill be starting on developing 0.6.x of TalonDEV.., as well as looking into some ICS :) ...this project has not been abandoned !
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
WooHoo... More Talon goodness.
[Captivate Android Development] shane87:
Woohoo!! I guess I need to get my linux box straightened out. It'll be good to see you back in action, ex, we have definately missed you over here in Cappy-land!
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
Yes!! YOU ARE THE MAN EXISTZ! I was depressed and looking into speedmod(gingerbread), Darkcore for JVZ, or maybe Semaphor(i don't find any updates except updating of initramfs) for updates and stuff if i ever have to go off boat because of incompatibility with new Roms :/

by the way, here's a hacked stock kernel and other ICS package from samsung for alpha ICS release for SGSII found on darky's site.. im not sure how its useful for SGS but you can at least look into the code... The kernel may not be stable but as the word is out, google will start its ICS update for Nexus S GSM phones in few days/weeks :)

In the end, thank you so much for everything.
[Captivate Android Development] mpencexda:
Nexus S System Update Ice Cream Sandwhich MR1 4.0.3 This showed up in my notifications a few days ago..
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Yea 4.0.3 and Nexus S sources have been up for a few days, we are already running 4.0.3 on Inspire :) .. but official NS sources should help things along on SGS ICS :)
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
We are? Which thread? Think i missed something
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
For inspire? If so, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1343361 ... links in 3rd post, LCs builds based off my latest sources
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Yes, inspire. I picked up a new toy. Thanks for y the link:)
[Captivate Android Development] mpencexda:
Hey existsz I just got delivery notification so you should have cappy to work from again now :)

sent from an alternate reality
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Yep, just got home and playing with it now :) .. again and again man, can't thank u enough..

Should have a small update tomorrow or next day , few bug fixes and new oc app, gonna go ahead and get this out and then ill actually start working on something worthy of a version bump (0.6.x) :)
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
UPDATE

0.5.2.6

- introduce OC App

- updated to XWJVZ initramfs

- updated MemoryFreak to v1.25b

- fixes to ramset from pikachu01

NOTE: make sure your running Busybox 1.17 or 1.19+, 1.18 does NOT include run-parts, so

startup scripts (which the kernel relies on quite a few to function correctly) will not work.. And

apps (MemoryFreak and OCApp will not get installed)

You may also notice the old Talon logo is back, this is only because I lost all my sources and

I did not have the new logo on GIT, I am currently working on a new boot logo using new

Talon design...might have it in 0.6.x
[Captivate Android Development] reinbeau:
A totally simple question - how do you make sure which Busybox you have installed?
[Captivate Android Development] baghera1979:
The overview screen in Tibu tells u what version of busybox is installed

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[Captivate Android Development] baghera1979:
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[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Voltage control will tell you (flip to the right s few panels). Tibu will also tell you (main screen it opens to, in parenthesis next to ok on root access line).
[Captivate Android Development] studacris:
Yes true, but that only tells you which version...

Go to the market and get busy box installer, that will not only tell you what version, but let you install the correct one if yours isn't compatible.
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Ok, Mr Smarty McZombiehead( :D) which busybox installer should she use?<insert Final Jeopardy music here>
[Captivate Android Development] studacris:
The Stephen (stericson) one ;)

Well, that's the one i use...not sure if the other is any better/worse though.

But i may try the other it's pretty light...422kB compared to 5.2MB.
[Captivate Android Development] reinbeau:
Oh shoot, based on the comments, I bought the other one - from JRummy16. Yes, I paid, I always buy, I support developers ;)
[Captivate Android Development] baghera1979:
For some reason, oc settings will stick thru the oc module but uv settings in voltage control keep resetting to 0 on reboot. I tried the corn kernel and it did the same thing. It was said that u had to go into cwm and set it thru there. Does that make sense?

Edit. This is the kernel I'm referring to. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1403723

It is cwm 5 recovery if that makes a difference

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[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Not sure about that..., Currently Talon uses CWM v3.0.0.5, so its going to be different than CWM5.., My Voltage settings are sticking through reboot, so its not kernel, something else is clearing it.. Also remember that everytime you change OC settings, it will clear your UV settings also, so everytime you change OC settings (with OC app), you need to redo your UV

EDIT

He uses his own custom CWM recovery, so those options will not be in mine
[Captivate Android Development] baghera1979:
ok, im just trying to pinpoint whats going wrong. ive gone into the oc module and set to 1200 and applied and saved thru there. then i went to voltage control and set my uv settings and applied and set them to apply on reboot. directly from the voltage control i go into reboot and low and behold, when i go back into VC the uv settings are back to 0. would this be a time to flash back to stock and restart? only thing i can think of that may help.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
I would.., Im running a completely clean flash of latest Apex with latest Talon kernel and UV is sticking for me
[Captivate Android Development] baghera1979:
ill try that. thanks
[Captivate Android Development] sinichi21:
Try clearing the init.d then reboot then add the script then reboot also make sure you have the busybox 1.17 or 1.19+ maybe that will help
[Captivate Android Development] CuriousTech:
I had the same trouble running Saurom. It comes with BusyBox v1.19.0.git.adrynalyne. Updated to 1.19.3 and rebooted. Now both Control Freak and Voltage Control are saving fine.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
You are more than likely right, @baghera1979 I would try using different version of Busybox before wiping.., usually if scripts are not running on boot then its usually a busybox issue (but sometimes it gets a little more complicated as to whats causing busybox to misbehave, but some versions of busybox simply just do not contain run-parts and/or is limited)

Hopefully in 0.6.x (possibly v1.0.0-RC0) Ill be adding my own modified version of busybox that will get installed on kernel flash, that way all these issues are fixed off the bat
[Captivate Android Development] baghera1979:
I tried what sinichi21 posted above and rebooted and it seems to be working right now. I installed busybox 1.9.3 from the market as per your instructions with the latest release. Ill see how long it lasts and how many reboots before it reverts again. So far so good though. Glad to see your still working on the cappy. Kernel is working great now. Another feather in your proverbial cap :-)

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[Captivate Android Development] reinbeau:
Just so I understand, multiple versions of busybox seem to be able to exist on a phone at once, is that correct? Different programs might install it in different directories?
[Captivate Android Development] CuriousTech:
Got it up to 1300MHz, -125mV on all speeds and running well. It's still fun running quadrant. lol
[Captivate Android Development] baghera1979:
I meant to say 1.19.3 not 1.9.3 for busybox. My bad, want to avoid confusion

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[Captivate Android Development] CuriousTech:
Only one version should be on your device. BusyBox Installer puts it in bin (or sbin) overwriting the previous version. But I've seen a symlink from one to the other (sbin -> bin or vise versa) in older roms.

Oh wait. /system/xbin is where it goes and /bin links to it.
[Captivate Android Development] truckmann:
Interesting. TiBu says I have BB 1.18.4 and BB Installer says my current version is 1.17.3 :confused:

I guess I need to make sure I have the latest BB Installer and try to re-install it.
[Captivate Android Development] goodolsen:
There is an option in TiBu to use it's optimized busybox code, or the one on the device.

1.18.4 is what TiBu will use unless you tell it otherwise.
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Yep,

Menu/preferences/go all the way to the bottom, then scroll back up a few options. You also have the option of usingTibu or system squlite
[Captivate Android Development] pikachu01:
Jrummy's busybox doesn't work well to execute Voltage Control/Any init.d scripts. Only stericson's work.

Titanium Backup only shows its own Busybox version (unless you tell it to switch to the system's own busybox).
[Captivate Android Development] mpencexda:
I like to compile my own busybox. Its pretty easy..
[Captivate Android Development] AceofSpades90:
Just a curious question... will i break something if i move on to a rom that uses "3D drivers from nexus S"? Just want to know because i know the kernel uses nexus S frame buffer already(which is different i know lol) and i use nexus s gps over I9000 rom and i have captivate? LOL

Sorry i went off topic there, i just wanted to clear that i'm already using part of nexus as in buffer(in talon) and in its gps. Although, simplicity rom designer have said it's incompatible with JVX.. i am using JW1 so... I thought these drivers might show AT LEAST OpenGL ES 2.0 in standard quadrant system info... lol

Anyways, are there other drivers from other phones that can improve something?
[Captivate Android Development] psych0phobia:
Apex 11 uses the 3D and GPS drivers from Nexus S and works fine with Talon.
[Captivate Android Development] singlag:
is it possible to add Audience support for i897 ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1403723
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Not without sources , if someone can get his sources posted I can add it
[Captivate Android Development] kitkitfok:
Kyuta Syuko report that I897UCKK4 sources are up on opensource.samsung.com
[Captivate Android Development] b-eock:
They uploaded KK4 AT&T source code!
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
I'm talking about mtcarey's sources for adding audience chip to i9000 sources
[Captivate Android Development] kitkitfok:
KK4 sources don't have any audience chip information code? :eek:

mtcarey's said that he take (audience chip code) form i896 GB source and add to i9000 sources.
[Captivate Android Development] reinbeau:
I flashed 0.5.2.6 the day it came out, and again, I'm dealing with sleep deaths - they were gone with the last incarnation. Just wanted to report it.
[Captivate Android Development] existz:
Yes, but its i897 source, its different than i9000 source.. im not sure what all has to be done to get it to work on i9000 sources .. when we messed with it on froyo it wasn't as easy as just taking audience chip code and throwing it in, so I'm not sure what all has to be done to make it work. That's why I need mtcareys source, as far as audience chip goes we have had sources for it for awhile now . But it could be just as easy as just adding all audience chip code, or it could end up being alot more than that .. so in short, kk4 sources doesn't do me any good
[Captivate Android Development] johan8:
Corn kernel also come with custom modded Cwm and ext4 (lagfix) w/o Voodoo.

Hope that you can put it in Talon.

Merry Christmas.