yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] theGeeko61@gmail.com:
Confusion

@krylon360,

We really appreciate the fruit of your labors here!

I have been using CWM3.0.2.8Beta since I got my hands on it... but, in reading in other threads, there seems to be some confusion. My understanding is that everything except a full restore is working.

However, when testing Nandroid backup for an article on the Wiki, I did not encounter any problem rebooting.

What may be confusing me is that I made no modifications to the /system filesystem and, hence, ended up with what appeared to be a full restore.

Could you please help clarify this for me?

Also, is there any way that I may be of help to you in your quest to resolve this issue (if, indeed, it does remain an issue)?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
in the first releases of the beta cwm restore did not work, but with 3.0.2.8 restore does work with a nandroid backup... however whenever flashing a rom thats when cwm stops working... for me atleast and im assuming most of the other people with the sgs4g
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
Rom flashing should work just fine. Always has. I'm glad to see that restore is working. Now, the real test. Can someone flash the Cwm version of kd1 that I posted, and then try restoring back to what you have on your phone now?

If that works then this is done and final and ill give it to koush for Rom Manager
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fatherof4:
TESTERS

I am at work and forgot my phone today:-( Come on yall lets get this thing finallized! I'm excited to get to my phone and see if CWM really is fully functional! Thanks for everything krylon and drhonk!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Ill try it right now...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] badb4lyfe:
about to try it too? Super excited... hope it works!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] badb4lyfe:
Finding update package...

Opening update package...

Installing update...

Installation aborted.

That's what i get.... currently in recovery about to try it a third time
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
oh, I think that zip is bad. lol. umm do this, take the framework-res.apk, and use UOT kitchen to modify it, and then flash that, or just make a bootanimation from UOT.

if it flashes, then you are good.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Eric-1987:
Any news for actual roms for the SGS4G? Now that CWM is working better can CM7 work for it too now?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
My jaw is on the floor first time I tried a full restore it was a no go on the mounting error. Just tried it again and it was fully successful. Ill give KD1 a shot and try restoring back. Ill let you guys know how it goes.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
Just tryed to flash KD1 flashable and got the installation aborted. Any thoughts?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
I got word from other members mentioning UOT cooked zips flash successfully. Do you know if Bali is boot ani enabled? If so, ill cook up a bootani with UOT and test.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
Kd1 flashable is corrupt. Ill have to redo it.

As far as Bali, it should be. But ill ask
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] badb4lyfe:
ok thx... patiently waiting :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
ok, cool.

side note, is there going to be any more support from you or Team Whiskey on other projects besides CWM?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
kernels, yes, from drhonk

but without the device, I wont be able to do a lot. On top of that, Ive just got way to many projects going on right now to take on another device full time. I'll do what I can, but no promises.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
ok cool, I didnt expect anything because I know you are working on other things and went WAY out of your way to help us out. I would like to personally THANK YOU for all that you have done for the SGS4G community. WE all are benefiting from your work along with the others who have helped you with this.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] badb4lyfe:
im in total Agreement
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Bl4ckpheniX:
Krylon. Thanks for everything you have done. I have personally confirmed that zips created in uot do flash with out any issues. I created a couple in the theme section if anyone would like to give them a try.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Harhar321:
So the big question is can you successfully full nandroid restore back to your previous state after a flash? If so it sounds like we are in business!

And also I would also like to personally thank Krylon for helping out our community with your hard work on this. It looks like the sgs4g scene is starting to come together now and things like cwm are making that possible. Mad props to you sir.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] drhonk:
Yeah UOT will work on most .. just don't go crazy with it .. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] theGeeko61@gmail.com:
CWM Test Case

PLEASE DISREGARD -- ERRONEOUS INFO HERE

MY APOLOGIES: PROOF THAT LACK OF SLEEP DESTROYS. :)

Ok... I am currently running Bali Kernel 1.4UV (as reported by Kernel Version in the Settings App and as seen in my /sdcard filesystem as Bali_SGS4G_v1.4UV.zip)...

So, here's my test scenario:

1) Nandroid backup

2) Flash Bali_v1.8.5UV.zip

3) verify kernel is reported correctly...

4) Nandroid restore

5) verify kernel is reported as Bali Kernel 1.4UV as originally reported.

Since I'm a noob, this may not prove what I am hoping to prove... namely, that CWM is working... Can anyone confirm or deny that this scenario is valid?

I'll report back in a few minutes...

1) Pushed Bali_v1.8.5UV.zip to /sdcard/

2) adb reboot recovery

3) Install zip from sdcard

4) choose zip from sdcard

a) CWM Recovery 3.0.2.8

b) -- Installing /sdcard/Bali_v1.8.5UV.zip

c) Finding update package...

d) Opening update package...

e) Installing update ...

f) Flashing kernel...

g) new kernel now installed.

h) Install from sdcard complete.

5) **** Go Back *****

6) -reboot system now

OK... let's try a different path... I'll get back to you... :) Currently have a boot-loop. But, I've done lots of risky stuff on here over the past few days...

I'm gonna wipe clean... and take it from there. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] de1packers:
Doing this now

Modded gingerbread theme

Whitehawks kd1 deodexed with modded green dialer,modded pull down menu (favorite color is green and favorite football team greenbay packers)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Bl4ckpheniX:
Yea, doesn't work on the drop down notifications. Because of the twframework file. Also I haven't messed with using uot for the boot animation either. Rather manually swap PNG files... sorry drhonk I forgot to mention a big thanks to you also for your work with CWM. ;-)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
I can confirm my full restore is fully functional..

I tried it twice with the two different themes.. backed up.. full restored back, WALA!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
In the midst of the talking about full backup I decided to try out some things.

1st. Made a full backup in cwm. I am currently running whitehawks Odin flashed KD1 with Bali 1.4 nonUV along with mods from fknfocused and robbit. Awdlauncher ex as secondary launcher. So i made the backup and right after tried to restore to my amazement it worked.

2nd. I then try the flashable KD1 posted by krylon360. Needless to say I got a brick. So bam I jump on Odin and flash back to whitehawkx KD1 and Grab the proper files for cwm and try to restore. It wouldn't work.

3rd. I do an advanced restore and restore data. When I boot backup all settings are good but still have bloat so I'm removing the bloat and remember "oh yea" Bali kernel so I go and flash it real quick and then let it boot up. I then quickboot into recovery then CWM and restore and WTF it restored the phone right back to the way it was when I did the first backup. I am glad its fixed just confused as to why things went the way they did. Is Full restore made possible by the kernel? I'm a noob soooo.......

Please let me know what u think. Also When the restore wasn't working it was giving me the couldn't unmount system error.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
thats a thought... Dr. Honk's kernel fixes CWM? :D

i can smell rom manager
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fatherof4:
This is so cooooool!!!!!!! (kinda confused though)

I can confirm the same results as GDofWR420's results with this. I was able to do a full restore no problem with bali 1.4uv and then i reverted back to stock and it did not work. Could the bali kernel really be fixing CWM?????????????
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
I can also confirm that after I install drhonks kernel restore works again after kd1 flashable brick stops restore
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
great job to the SGS4G community as a whole!!! Everyone supporting each other and dr honk/krylon we figured this out together. I'm excited knowing how we don't have the perks of a million devs working on our phone, yet we were able to figure this much out together

Verrry nice (borat voice)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
Yea I was really bummed when I bricked. Hopefully this will give krylon360 and drhonk something to go on. Again couldn't believe it either guys. it worked then didn't work and then it worked, so I'm puzzled as to what was causing the mount issue. But again I'm glad it worked for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
+1
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fatherof4:
+1 to that!! lol on the borat voice
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fatherof4:
Just to confirm things with myself because honestly i am still alittle shocked, i made a backup, uninstalled like 10 apps,changed some things around and did a full restore. (on 1.4uv) Says complete, reboot and bam everything back just right and it worked flawless!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for all the work krylon and drhonk! Lets all remember who made this possible and get on those donations!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
Only one way to find out if the tests prove correct. Flash stock rom with bali kernel instead of stock kernel. hmmm???
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
hurry someone compile cwm flashable whitehawks kd1 rom with drhonks kernel in it! :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
Would be great if anyone would be willing to put that rom together? Gotta say remove the bloat and that would make an excellent rom.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
I havent done any restores before so I have a question before I start attempting some things.

Say I flash a theme like robbits theme, what would I restore to bring back my current setup?

sent from my not so stock SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
Nandroid backup via cwm.. flash theme via cwm.. then restore the backup u created via cwm
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
Oh don't think there isn't anything to be done. Start putting stuff together, learn about edify scripting, start making themes, stuff like that. Once this project is done I have to send the phone back to luckyduck69 and you guys are pretty much on your own

Sent from space
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeDCMDVA:
Krylon, I would like to have a CM7 on the phone. I have found some pages for getting started with your own ROM's on Android, but theres lots of questions..

Do these particular files within a ROM contain files that would overwrite important system files? Do they vary from phone to phone (As in, how would one know which files are good to replace on the phone, and how do they vary from other phones) etc..etc...if they vary, how would we mod the files to fit the SGS4G? Would we need to have experience going into these files? Knowing the programming language?

Ah, I want to attempt my own ROM so bad but theres just so many loose ends I need to tie before I attempt it...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Success100:
when it comes to themes and things it shouldnt be to hard to port them from the vibrant roms right?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Core618:
Just got arround to checking the forums this morning - was happy to see this thread.

I'll sit tight and wait for the final though. I'm in no hurry, got root, got rid of bloat, applied the fota fix, still need to get rid of the damned T-Mo startup/shutdown ani's and loud as hell noises, so I'm pretty much happy to wait.

I've got no experience with Odin/Heimdall and modding the Samsung stuff, all I've had before now were HTC Andy's, so I'd rather read and learn from you guys before I start tinkering with this too much...

Awesome work though! Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Bl4ckpheniX:
A good starting point would be to take a stock vibrant ROM, and compare it next to a custom Vibrant ROM. Look and see what was changed between the two. Then you can start to see what files you can change and what happens when you change them. Of course if you do not know anything about this type of work you should start searching google.

DO NOT try and flash a vibrant ROM, I only say to compare the two vibrant ROM's with each other because the vibrant is pretty close to this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] drhonk:
Definitely don't do that because these two Vibrant phones are totally different. They may look the same but the two has totally different storage structure and hardware.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeDCMDVA:
Now I'm really scared....maybe I'll just wait for the first custom 4G ROM to come out, then do a side by side comparison to stock.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] flyinbird93:
I don't see how this helps if we dont have a rom to go with it yet, can someone explain it for me please?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeDCMDVA:
Don't you even realize the amount of time they have put into this and how much of a breakthrough it is?

No, you probably don't, you just want to press a button and have a new ROM.

Kid stfu

And no, I'm not flaming
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Success100:
Seriously I hate flamers but you need to just delete this post. If u don't know then you need to read some and figure out what ur doing first. Its post like these that make our chefs not want to help

Sent from my damn Fo-GEE!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lrosado:
Hey Krylon, I have tried multiple times and still the same result. Any other suggestions that you think I can try? Thanks for your help on this.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] sgyee:
Chicken and egg discussion. No egg, no chicken. CWM is the egg. No one "creates" the egg, no one will spend the time "creating" the chicken.

If you don't have CWM, you can't flash a ROM on a simple basis. Frankly, CWM is way easier than Odin and Heimdall.

It also standardizes things a bit.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Success100:
great way to put it
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] drhonk:
Both KB5 and KC1 ROM that Krylon released make a good base for a ROM. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lrosado:
OK, I figured out what was wrong. I was downloading the file on my phone and it was saving it and adding the .bin extension to the end of the file name (recovery.bin) instead of leaving the name as just "recovery" which is how it is saved on the phone (no .bin at the end) so when I copied it over it never really copied over the original recovery that was on the phone. I just removed the .bin extension from the file and it worked.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] :
CWM is the chicken. Roms are the egss. chicken (CWM) will bring lots of eggs (Roms)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] sgyee:
You could put it that way too.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeDCMDVA:
So can I flash the Deodexed ROM using CWM? I know Krylon previously stated it can't flash ROM's yet or it's not tested....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xaocon:
nope. new roms will come in a different format than those. when new rom images come out they will be easier to flash though.

What is the standard for being a Senior Member? Just the raw number of posts?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Harhar321:
I had to rename the file by dropping the ".bat" extension to get it to overwrite the old file. Then it worked just fine.

And yes CWM on this phone is a HUGE accomplishment. The sgs4g is not like other galaxy or vibrants so it is taking a hell of alot of work to get it going btw.

Also CWM is more than just a rom installer. It has some really helpful utilities and settings built into it. If you are not familiar with these features take a minute and look through the menus once its installed.

And even though restore isn't working YET it can do the backup just fine. I can't tell you how good it feels to have a nandroid backup stashed away of my rom and settings again--finally feels like an android phone lol.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Harhar321:
If cwm with Bali kernel is actually fully working you should be able do a backup in cwm. A full restore in cwm should get you back completely to that restore point--all settings and everything. IF it is working that is.

And yes awesome community collaboration on this issue guys. It looks like we are close.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] de1packers:
It is fully working I just did it...I'm going to make a flashable whitehawk kc1 with lockscreen mod and modden pull down notification and gb theme and gb dialer. Tomorrow!!! I'm tired damn it

Modded gingerbread theme

Whitehawks kd1 deodexed with modded green dialer,modded pull down menu (favorite color is green and favorite football team greenbay packers)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Could you do a kd1 version as well please!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
No other way besides full restore?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] de1packers:
I had an unstable version of kc1 because of things I changed around but I fully restored to a themed version of kd1...I'll odin then add the kernal backup and post

Modded gingerbread theme

Whitehawks kd1 deodexed with modded green dialer,modded pull down menu (favorite color is green and favorite football team greenbay packers)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fatherof4:
I will be anxiously awaiting this!!!!! Great idea!!!!!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fatherof4:
I think we are getting there.

Okay guys i've been up all night testing on this and i can confirm that a full restore does not work on any of the roms with a stock kernel. KB5,KC1,and KD1 all failed to full restore due to mount issue with the stock kernels but once the bali 1.4uv was applied BAM the mount issue is gone and full restore is fully functional! I only tried this with the bali 1.4uv but i see others have had success with other versions as well so it seems something in the kernel is allowing CWM to unmount after the full restore. I want to play around with this some more but gotta get some shuteye! Got my wife telling me im more interested in my as she puts it "phone ****" than her lately!lollollollollol

Big thanks to everyone in the community that is colaborating to figure this out!

And to quote someone in an earlier post "i can smell rom manager!"
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] drhonk:
Awesome work guys .. this give me something to work with. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
Pretty sure you would want to do an advanced restore and select data. That's how I got everything to go back to the way it was at least settings and theme and icons.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Awesome work drhonk and krylon, you gave us something to restore with, cwm/bali kernel! :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
So it would seem the stock kernel was causing the mounting issue?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
Thanks for the info bro. I'll try it out when i attempt the sweethoney theme by Bl4ck. :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeDCMDVA:
Yeah, I am a Senior Member but my knowledge is definitely not senior.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Bl4ckpheniX:
Sorry, tried to make it clear. Do not flash anything vibrant on this phone. The vibrant rom reference was for learning purpose only. To get you familiar.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] nwpro3:
I second that emotion.... I was one of the experiments with the failed 3E fix and actually made a nandroid backup in the process, but it got deleted. With this update I have been able to make another nandroid backup again. Progress!!! Thanks Krylon..:)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] joedeveloper:
Installed without a problem. Just finished my first backup on my SGS4G. Thanks Krylon, great work!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeDCMDVA:
Doing a nandroid backup, it says during:

"No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext"

Is this fine?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] joedeveloper:
Yep that's fine. You're probably running a stock SD card. No partitions etc. No need to worry.

Typical use for partitions especially ext was for Apps2SD, which is still applicable but not as much now that 2.2 supports app install to SD.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xaocon:
yep. it's looking for a special partition on the sdcard.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeDCMDVA:
Cool, thanks guys, backup completed! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xaocon:
No problem. If if helped you could nudge that thanks button. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Harhar321:
Yeah its fine. You wouldn't have an ext partition unless you had formatted your SD to include one. An apps to sd-ext scheme like back in cm5 would be nice with our phone's limited internal storage tho... because the apps to SD scheme we have now leaves a much bigger internal "footprint" and takes up more internal space than the ext partition method.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeDCMDVA:
Thanks given all around!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] orionshock:
maybe it is just me... but i followed directions in the OP.

Rebooted back into Android & then back to recovery & it was the stock recovery not CWM. Is this intended or did i miss something?

Also in CWM the Log at the bottom has this in it ::

ClockworkMod Recovery v3.0.0.5
Checking for ext4 Partitions...
Checking /system...
Checking /data...
Checking /cache
Done!
E:Can't mount /cache/recovery/command
E:Can't mount /cache/recovery/log
E:Can't open /cache/recovery/log
E:Can't mount /cache/recovery/last_log
E:Can't open /cache/recovery/last_log
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
because cache and data do not auto mount, you can mount them in mounts and storage.

you wont auto boot into recovery, you have to select reinstall packages, might take 2 times doing that. it will boot you into cwm.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] joedeveloper:
Is that confirmed? I haven't really looked into it much but figured the native 2.2 method of Apps2SD was efficient.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] joedeveloper:
Just to get clarification on this. I don't have an issue going in to stock recovery then reinstall packages to get into CWM. This is the intended way though correct? It's not going to auto-boot into CWM.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Harhar321:
Well I know this because I have experience with both on my old g1. I could have dozens of apps installed with apps to sd-ext and with the native apps to SD I could only have a fraction of those installed without the ext method. And with a g1 you are keenly aware of internal memory issues lol.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeDCMDVA:
Thats what I had to do..just reinstall packages each time
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] joedeveloper:
Haha yes I surely am. People complaining about 200mb, try 8mb after a modest amount of apps loaded to a G1. stock was like 96mb available I think.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] joedeveloper:
Yeah, I'm not to worried about that. Like Krylon posted it's Beta and good enough to keep things going till then next release.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Bl4ckpheniX:
Sorry, it was answered before I was done typing
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] richielasalsa:
Thanks for all the hard work krylon i appreciate it .. just cant wait to flash a rom :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] ensonnosne:
I'm getting a signature verification error.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
Go back and read the thread. You didnt do Tue recovery correctly.

Sent from space