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[Nook Color General] xdajunkman:
Not that it would assuage your concerns too much, but at least regarding leaving your device plugged in overnight - that should not be a concern. The device uses a smart recharge and stops recharging the battery once it is full. That is one reason why it turns on when you try and plug it in. Even with heavy use I can go two days without recharging - though I am not sure how falling asleep with something playing would affect that.

I held out in rooted stock for quite a while over concerns of stability and battery life. I made the jump before the stable CM7 release came out and have never looked back. Of course I look forward to when and if they are able to solve the 'sleep of death' problem, but it is no way a deal-breaker for me. I couldn't be happier with CM7 the way it is...anything more is just icing.

By the way, I would put a plug in for sending a few buck to the CM7 folks for anyone who chooses to run their ROM. Just think of the dumbest app you were willing to pay 99 cents for and ask yourself if CM7 is worth at least as much as that app.
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Yeah, this is why it's been said a million times that the OTA Certs has nothing to do with preventing updates.

If you had the latest build.prop signature, that would prevent it, but someone has to get it first, then compare and update the build.prop to avoid.

However IMO I think a lot of people will want to update if it's 2.2, although perhaps waiting for Auto Nooter to update.
[Nook Color General] xxiworld:
And, at least from this one datapoint, it seems that turning off updates by tweaking devicemanager.db doesn't seem to work, either.

Which involves knowing when the update is coming, and turning Wi-Fi off in time.

Definitely, if I don't go to CM7, I would want to get the official Froyo update eventually, but NOT until it is rooted and doesn't involve losing everything. And as pointed out by someone above, we don't know how often B&N will release incremental updates (like 1.1, which I never bothered with). It is definitely concerning that we do not seem to have a reliable way of blocking OTA updates on stock *beforehand*, though it is reassuring hear that the build.prop method should work after the fact.
[Nook Color General] doncaruana:
I did the otacerts trick on my wife's nook waaaay back in January. It's still running 1.01 and it's been online plenty. Not sure if that particularly means anything - it wouldn't pick up the 1.01 update either - I had to sideload it.

I have both our nooks now with otacerts and sqlite db employed. No build.prop number to see yet, so can't do anything there. Mine is on 1.1, her's is 1.01, both rooted with CWR and nandroid backups as of today.

I guess time will tell...
[Nook Color General] bigbob23:
I had something happen a few weeks ago. There was a screen saying that it was downloading and I thought it may be 1.2, but when it finished I couldn't even boot my rooted 1.1 Nook. I did a reset and it went to 1.0.0. I tried sideloading 1.1 again but it wouldn't take.

I'll wait and see what comes tomorrow, but unless it's great, I'll probably install CM7 to the eMMC (it's working fine on the SD card with the latest nightly and the 1.3 GHz OC kernel).
[Nook Color General] iDidItAll4theNookie:
I'm confused about the battery life concerns on CM7, as B&N only claims 8 hours of use on their website. CM7 doesn't seem too far from that, and that's in a far more usable form.
[Nook Color General] HamNCheese:
Hang on... Are you saying you got the v2.0 (or whatever comes after v1.1) stock update from B&N? And it over-wrote clockwork and some other rom?

I'm sorry, but.... Screenshots please?
[Nook Color General] HamNCheese:
CM is much, much worse on the battery - not during use, but during sleep. It leaks around 5x as much power in sleep mode due to lack of proper "deep sleep" support in more recent linux kernels.

Keep in mind, this is Gingerbread, which was never meant to go on a tablet. Phones never "deep sleep", so....
[Nook Color General] iDidItAll4theNookie:
I hate to do it, but it appears the official update for the Nook is going to be "1.5," according to the barnesandnoble.com:

Not much more than that, but its on the website. Must be coming real soon.
[Nook Color General] lafester:
5x as much as what? not a big deal as the nook is not using much power when the screen is off. saying its much much worse is really exaggerating the issue imho.

is it really so hard to plug it in at night?
[Nook Color General] granny smith:
That is for the Nook and not Nook Color.
[Nook Color General] xxiworld:
UPDATE: It did it again

It did it again . . .
[Nook Color General] iDidItAll4theNookie:
No,its for NC. It is on the nook color page, and it even mentions the nook color in the blurb.
[Nook Color General] danbutter:
Do you have a link?

All I see on the website is the 1.1 stuff where it says make sure your nook color is up to date.
[Nook Color General] xxiworld:
No, but don't the batteries have a limited number of charge-cycles before their performance overall starts to degrade? If you are charging it every day, won't the lifespan be shortened?
[Nook Color General] xxiworld:
UPDATE: I turned the WiFi back on, and it did it again. I woke up my nook, and it was at the B&N registration screen.

I successfully registered, but now seem to be partially stuck at "Welcome to LogicPD Zoom2 Touch the Android to Begin". I touch the android, and it turns white, recognizing my touch, but nothing more happens.

The B&N menu opens, though. Most of my apps are gone from "extras", but oddly, the amazon app store, NookColor tools, Market, Superuser, and Youtube seem to still be there.

Also, it does NOT look like I have updated at ALL. Not even to 1.1. My software version is still listed as 1.0.1. But it is definitely no longer rooted. I can't actually *run* the market, nor can I install apps from the amazon app store.

Bizarre.

This all happened the second time AFTER I restored a two-week old nandroid backup, and it never happened before, so it seems like it shouldn't be a glitch in the software. But if it were an OTA update, wouldn't it, you know, update?

Very confusing. Maybe it tried to update, but since I was rooted and running an OC kernel, the update didn't go through properly? Or maybe B&N have just found a way to un-root our devices and are doing so even without pushing a full update?

It looks like I may be going to CM7 on emmc after all.
[Nook Color General] pixeljunk:
I decided to put CM7 onto a second SD card to give it a test run for a few days. Not bad. Pretty stable. (I had a bad experience with the RC4 version for some reason.) I DO like that the wifi works better than Nookie Froyo, and the entire market is accessible. Froyo would occasionally loop the wifi coming out of sleep. Also, I'd have to reset the market settings from time to time.

However, I'm still not a fan of the battery drain. 12% overnight, and I even manually turned the wifi off before letting it go to sleep.
[Nook Color General] deadbot1:
Um...just checked now...Nook( e-ink screen)--->1.5....NookColor(our devices)--->1.1.0
[Nook Color General] iDidItAll4theNookie:
You might be right. I thought I was at the mobile site for the NookColor, but I guess its a combined site for both. Its misleading cause at the top of the page they have the NC pictured. It looked like a recent announcement. My bad. :(
[Nook Color General] iDidItAll4theNookie:
I've had good luck with a couple class 4 4gb Dane elec cards that I bought from Target. Been running CM7 on them for a few weeks now.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Yes, batteries have a limited amount of charge cycles, but something to keep in mind is that a charge cycle is one complete 100% charge. So, if you drain your battery to 80% left every day (use 20%), and charge it, that will be ONE charge cycle (not 5).

Ironically, Apple has a great read on this:

http://www.apple.com/batteries/
[Nook Color General] loganthered:
I know we already have Gingerbread (and to an extent Honeycomb) running on these, but an official Froyo build would so exciting, especially if the scuttlebutt is true and they incorporate the market. The notification system and a lot of the UI is more elegant on stock than that of CM7. Plus the battery life is definitely improved on stock versus customized.

So here's hoping it's a worthwhile update. Next step: CM-Honeycomb edition. :-D
[Nook Color General] jaywbalk:
I'm a bookseller at a B&N. For what it's worth, there has been a link on the home page of our computer system called "Nook Update" for about a week or so. When I click on it, it gives some error saying the update file is not currently available and to try later.

I'm not sure if it's for the black & white nook or color nook, but my money says there's an update coming this week (hopefully tomorrow). I was hoping to talk to the nook-lead about Froyo, but she wasn't in tonight.
[Nook Color General] runningslow:
The update is on the website now... currently downloading it.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/nookcolor-support-software-update/379002520/?cds2Pid=35505
[Nook Color General] dak1955:
downloading update now...says 2.2

I'm getting the 1.2 update from the B&N site...in the *What's New* section it says 2.2 Froyo w/Flash.

================================

side-loaded the update and it installed in about 2 minutes. Time to play!

================================

In the apps section, under *show more apps*, I'm seeing 139 available.
[Nook Color General] mutant13:
NOOK Color’s update to Android OS 2.2/Froyo offers system improvements, browser performance and a more complete Web experience giving customers access to enjoy even more video, interactive and animated content. NOOK Color now includes support for Adobe® Flash® Player
[Nook Color General] treofi:
Standby time on my nook is much longer. I didnt use my nook for a week and the battery widget says 40 %. Thats with Froyo, oc kernel 600 mhz max/300 mhz min (fast enaugh for reading :)) and wifi off.
[Nook Color General] rudegus:
Official Nook 1.2.0 release out today!

I just went over to barnesandnoble.com and found that the rumors were all true. Software 1.2.0 is available for download. I just finished installing it and will be taking it for a test drive shortly.
[Nook Color General] DeathsArrow:
Engadget claims it's Froyo: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/25/bandn-nook-color-update-released-brings-froyo-apps-and-flash-w/
[Nook Color General] toonz333:
Do I have to return to stock, to update this properly? Or it doesn't matter if you're rooted or not.
[Nook Color General] doncaruana:
If you look at the B&N site, they confirm it's Froyo: "NOOK Color’s update to Android OS 2.2/Froyo offers system improvements..."
[Nook Color General] petey00:
Installing now...... will report back with initial impressions.
[Nook Color General] doncaruana:
Far from an expert am I, but conventional wisdom, and lots of reading here, would indicate that the act of updating will unroot you in the process.

For my part, I'm hoping to avoid the update until it can be rooted again. Not sure where B&N's thinking is, but they may have made a big attempt to block rooting now that they have updated the software.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
While i have no interest in this update, i do wonder what kernel they are using. The geek in me would love to see what enhancements have REALLY been done..
[Nook Color General] DeathsArrow:
I saw that after I posted.

Ideally they've addressed the sleep of death issue.
[Nook Color General] FredOak3:
Installed and a big disappointment. Only about 130+ apps, most too expensive, doesn't recognize the .apk file format, so no sideloading.

For me anyway a major disappointment. Now I have to decide to either wait for a autonooter for this, go back to 1.1 and autonooter or go back to CM7.

B&N dropped the ball on this one, in my opinion
[Nook Color General] mutant13:
Linux-2.6.32.9
[Nook Color General] nukeruss:
XXIWorld, Why don't you just set up a dual boot of stock with CM7. CM7 is awesome and you could always go to bed with your podcast on stock and use CM7 for all it's awesomeness the rest of the time. And you don't have to worry about a crappy micro SD card messing you up.
[Nook Color General] hellomynameis:
just tried update from stock rooted to 1.2 and it will not.

So i am restoring to stock 1.0.1 and will sideload it and see what it is like
[Nook Color General] Tool Belt:
I am afraid to tun on my wifi to find out, anyone know if the sqlite tweak is successful at blocking OTA?

Thanks
[Nook Color General] jmgazer:
Update problem

I've used Autorooter successfully, and added the update.zip to the root directory, it will not initiate. Do I have to unroot first?

Jim
[Nook Color General] priyank_bolia:
Does 1.2 update unroots the nook, how to root it again, or how to safely install it so that the previous rooted applications continue to work?
[Nook Color General] nukeruss:
I would recommend setting up dual boot per the development thread for anyone not wanting to leave stock totally and afraid that B&N will forcefully update them out of root. Then you could tool around in CM7 for a few days until the update is rooted. Dual boot is really easy to remove and you'll probably never want to get rid of it anyway unless you decide to go full CM7. Look at the last few pages of the thread to find the dual boot CM7 stable release. Read the first post for the how to section but use a later post for the latest CM7 build. Works like a champ and you still have your stock-rooted version sitting on the other half of the internal memory.
[Nook Color General] A. Nonymous:
Just reading through this and am pissed as I'm selling my NC with a selling point being that you can root it and use it as a tablet.

It sounds like this breaks root and you can't re-root at this point. Kills my re-sale value. Thanks B&N.
[Nook Color General] bluewhite79:
I"m running CM7, so i suppose I won't get this.

I'm most interested in how they deal with the statusbar in this update. Looking at the pulse news app, it appears to have softbuttons on the status bar that are HONEYCOMB style.

I'm betting they screen shotted a zoom and photochopped it into the nook.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/noo...plore/379002766/?cds2Pid=37820&linkid=1700795

Anyone who is using 1.2, please let us know how the nook now handles full screen apps etc...what the status bar buttons hold.

Maybe youtube it and post.

thx.
[Nook Color General] Tool Belt:
I would imagine it is a fun day to be an XDA wizard! Thank you all for all your upcoming ideas!
[Nook Color General] bluewhite79:
where did someone say it breaks root? some are trying to update from a rooted device, but cannot....therefore, to test drive 1.2, they're going back to stock and side loading it.

Once the devs create an autonooter for 1.2, there is still a major advantage since you'll have full access to Gapps, while stock 1.2 only has a B&N store.
[Nook Color General] psychoace:
Uh not really. You could always downgrade to 1.1 and block it from upgrading. You could also wait a week or two in hopes it will be rooted again. Last you could sell it as a cm7 tablet at 1.3ghz.
[Nook Color General] bretzke:
Quit whinning. Updates have always broken root for a few days until the wizards reopen the door.
[Nook Color General] A. Nonymous:
I may have mis-read since I was up part of the night dealing with clients crap that they could've dealt with themselves.

I saw that it broke root and (currently) cannot be re-rooted. That was my understanding. I've got a NC that is currently sitting at 1.0.0 since a factory reset and the setup wizard hasn't even been run yet. I presume this can still be rooted?
[Nook Color General] timmyjoe42:
I'm sure it is only a matter of time before it is rooted again. For me, these updates give me everything that I have been looking for in the nook color. I would like to be able to side load, but I hope their Market can continue to grow with new applications added daily to increase productivity and being able to be customized.
[Nook Color General] :
Looking in the 1.2 update right now, and trying to figure out which apk is their "market". Any ideas?
[Nook Color General] jsmith8858:
I know, WTF is wrong with people? Just wait 2 or 3 friggin' days while the devs work on it and you can root again. How dare B&N sell an unrooted device and release an update that attempts to keep it unrooted! those bastards! You DESERVE to have your device fully rooted every second of every day and any update they release must respect your wishes!

Come on kids, time to grow up a bit.
[Nook Color General] janko10:
First of all, you're wrong.

Second, you're complaining that a company is preventing you from selling a device that you're using not as it was intended? Yeah, that's B&N's fault....

Shut the **** up.
[Nook Color General] molesaied88:
does anyone know what kernel version this comes with? this is the KEY to getting froyo and gingerbread working properly.
[Nook Color General] rigy73:
Ohh... thank god. At least they upgraded the kernel, its not the best out there, but its an improvement and is certainly going to help DSP issues in CM7.
[Nook Color General] FredOak3:
Seriously, I did my Ti back up, went back to stock,now have the update which I'll play with until a new autonooter is out and then restore everything back.

I don't need instant gratification which is why I come to XDA becaue I know it will eventually come and all will be right with the world again :D
[Nook Color General] ouldsmobile:
It was posted a couple pages back
[Nook Color General] ScottyNuttz:
Once on 1.2, you can still boot from the SD card into CM7 correct?
[Nook Color General] :
Cool! Let me know it is. Also, do you know the name of the market? How's flash and all that jazz?
[Nook Color General] xxiworld:
No, it doesn't block it at all. But the update doesn't work successfully, either. It just un-roots you.
[Nook Color General] stevedawg85:
So safe to update a rooted nook w/ marketplace apps right? What will happen to those apps? Will they stay "installed" and taking up (minimal) space? I plan on leaving it legit and just run CM off SD card.
[Nook Color General] danbutter:
I'm waiting on the answer to this too.
[Nook Color General] Rockwig:
Yes. I have just confirmed this.

Edit: I did the update manually, without my SDCard in the Nook.
[Nook Color General] SCWells72:
Cool! That's what I wanted to know before updating. I'll apply the update this evening mostly for giggles and plan to continue to use CM7/SD as my daily driver.
[Nook Color General] FredOak3:
Trying to test it in my office right now and the wifi keeps dropping, but it did that on 1.1 and CM7, so I know it's the crappy open router they have here.

So I'll go downstairs at lunch and try it as the open wifi down there is better.

I'll load up a couple apps try flash and report back.
[Nook Color General] xxiworld:
No, not really. At least not from my experience. I have CWM installed, so that might have further buggered things up, but the update did not go through fully, and it did break root. All market apps lost, apparently. I'm not sure if it deleted them or just hid them, but they are inaccessible.

Fortunately, I have a nandroid backup, which I am keeping the wifi off on until this gets autonootered. I also have a Titatium Backup, so I can get most of my apps back without having to individually re-download them one at a time, if I decide to stick with nootered 1.2.

The fact that our tricks (sqlite devicemanager.db tweaks and certs renaiming) to avoid the update failed sucks, though. We have no reliable way of keeping the nook from updating and (and therefore wiping itself) in the future. Build-prop spoofing may still work, but only AFTER the update has been out for a while, so that doesn't offer much protection.
[Nook Color General] ScottyNuttz:
That's good news, I'll proceed to update at lunchtime :)

I don't really plan on actually using the 1.2 version as a daily diver since I've become so fond of CM7, but I'm excited to check it out.
[Nook Color General] bluewhite79:
wait, are you saying CWM does NOT block the OTA update and that when i get home this evening my nook will be fubar?
[Nook Color General] djjeesh:
man were you wrong
[Nook Color General] jhom52:
Trouble-free update. I have best of both worlds - CM7 SD Gingerbread tablet and stock e-reader. I'm lovin' it.
[Nook Color General] xxiworld:
That was my experience, yes.
[Nook Color General] bluewhite79:
so, what do we do? does CWM still work? can i get into it and restore a backup?
[Nook Color General] chandlerw88:
I'm thinking cwm is indeed blocking the update or it's being forced ota in waves. I'm in Houston and Ive turned my NC on in and off and also let it sleep and haven't got Jack.

Ninja edit: sorry can't read. Will update manually
[Nook Color General] kbg1:
wow,this update makes a $250 e- reader more powerful than a rim playbook.

take that rim
[Nook Color General] captobie:
Darnit, I can't get the update to install. I keep getting the following error messages:

E:failed to verify whole-file signature

E:signature verification failed

Installation aborted.

I've re-downloaded the file multiple times, but it still aborts on me. It's making me kind of angry, I held off rooting my NC so I could install the update as soon as it came out. :mad:
[Nook Color General] xc68000:
It is a big deal. Standby life sucks without deep sleep. I don't want to have to charge my device every night when otherwise it would last an entire week.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Thanks for the update on the kernel info guys. A new build sounds interesting (though i know our devs have done a ton of work on .32 that may make it unneeded anyway), but is meaningless until they release updated source code (which they have not done yet).

BTW - to the person who said the newer kernel may help our "DSP". Sorry, but you are way behind. The DSP (and GPU) have been working just fine for quite some time now...
[Nook Color General] FredOak3:
Well, took the update out for a spin and I'll give it a C+

It's better then stock 1.1 but not as good as 1.1 rooted or CM7

The app store is a joke right now. The free apps suck. The only way to get mail, calendar and sync with an exchange server is to buy Touchdown or use their free calendar app and pay $40 (yes $40) for the developers sync component to sync with google.

Now get an autonooter out for this and I'd be 100% happy.
[Nook Color General] xc68000:
Sorry forgot to quote the original post.

The other thing I would point out is that cycling the battery every 24 hours will greatly reduce its lifecycle.
[Nook Color General] thoth_19:
Saw this on androidcentral, Seems full of all kinds of goodys. would love to see some useful stuff to make stock B & N app usable on Cm7.
[Nook Color General] chandlerw88:
Yeah trying to update with rooted 1.1 is a no go for me... ill wait for the flash file
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Don't count on it. If it is anything like their last updates, their special software is still tied in to the heavily modified framework, which makes it VERY difficult to port...
[Nook Color General] Rusdude:
At work without my NC, but thanks to everyone for being guinea pigs and updating us on the your experience :)

Not sure why some people seem to be disappointed with what B&N has done in this update and/or availability of apps. I don't think anyone was expecting 1.2 to magically make NC better than rooted/CM7/HC versions. Whenever Amazon releases their tablet that Samsung is making for them, it'll be the same curated experience as opposed to typical free-for-all Android experience.

And it's not like B&N is actively doing anything to hinder community from rooting & tweaking NC. They could be a lot more negative towards us given that they aren't making a lot on NC (not iPad-like margins) and count on our purchases of books/apps to keep them in business.
[Nook Color General] robUx4:
I keep following the instructions on B&N's website but I get no update. It reboots and doesn't use the .zip. On the other hand it deletes it.

Anyone with these symptoms ? Any way to fix this or force it to use the ZIP ?
[Nook Color General] thoth_19:
yea i figured so, wishful thinking on my part. will never leave cm7. Run it on all my android devices! and missing one app nowhere compares to the gains