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[Xoom General] keitht:
Me thinks someone is trolling here. Even with a Wifi only Xoom available, comparing another WiFi only tablet to a 3g/4g tablet Xoom when there is already a WiFi only version of the Xoom is just stupid. It is obvious this guy has some agenda here. Thread should be closed.
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
Well now there are three threads where the same poster is croning on about the $300 price difference between a Xoom and an Asus (nevermind we're talking about the 16gb wifi only vs. the 32gb 3g/lte).

And I agree. Generally, these threads have gotten redundant and pointless.

If you want to take your XOOM back because you don't like it please do so but coming here to grief everyone who wants to move forward with theirs isn't productive at all. Reporting this thread and others for the same reasons.
[Xoom General] willverduzco:
Let's keep this (relatively) on topic here.

I'm not closing / deleting this thread (yet), but let's just make sure we're comparing the tablets based on facts rather than opinions.

Let's also lighten up! Even if another tablet is better for some, it doesn't mean that our choice is suddenly wrong. I think the better aesthetics and build quality alone are worth the price difference, but that's just me.

So again, play nice.
[Xoom General] patass:
gawd I just started this to try and get our xoom's screens to rotate faster and it turned into this massive flame war o_o
[Xoom General] atoy74:
LOL. I really did bust out laughing at this.
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
I smiled too. At the end of it all I'm not mad at anyone.
[Xoom General] madsquabbles:
actually I'd say it's more like comparing the Honda passport to the isuzu rodeo. same car with different standard configs and prices.
[Xoom General] musashiken:
I don't get it. Are you sure the screen rotation is noticeably faster on the Acer than the Xoom? It should be a Honeycomb thing so both should have same rotation reaction speeds. Unless the Xoom's gyroscope registers slower or something. Weird.
[Xoom General] Smokexz:
Google never set any spec requirements, they will never do that. A company such as Motorola however, might put these standard specs to make the device not give Motorola a bad name. In Android the only people that are to blame for a bad end product is really the manufacturer, Google however may be responsible if the software issues are universal in the Android software.

Sent from my Xoom
[Xoom General] freeky1:
You are still comparing apples to oranges...

32gb Transformer - $500

32gb wifi Xoom - $590

Difference - $90, not $300

So, one could argue that Motorola is charging $200 for just a 3g/4g modem. Is that reasonable? Apple charges $130 for their 3g modem. I think the initial $800 price point for the 3g/4g Xoom was set during the period when Verizon was going to force buyers to purchase a contract, at which time the unit would be subsidized and cost only $600. Since they changed the policy and did not require a contract, the price remained $800. If you've ever seen the unsubsidized prices on smartphones, you understand how phone companies overprice their phones.
[Xoom General] electronicrice:
Jesus! Stop hijacking this guy's thread! Take your feature/price discussion elsewhere!

On topic - I played with both today at Best Buy, and while I felt that the Acer seemed to have better framerates during transitions (very slightly) I didn't really notice the Acer rotating faster than the Xoom, but then again I wasn't really looking for it either. It's kind of awkward to do it anyway with all of the security things they have attached to them.

If there is a way to make it move faster in rotations and whatnot, I would assume that a Spare Parts-like app will be made for Honeycomb that may enable that option.
[Xoom General] nomachinez:
Capitalism loves you :)
[Xoom General] e.mote:
It's useless to get into these tiffs. And it's not anybody's fault that they are useless.

Buying is emotional, especially for discretionary items like these tech gadgets. We all need to rationalize our decision, more than just our techno-lust. One good way is to make ourselves believe that it's a bargain, e.g. my X is way cheaper than your Y, etc.

That's why you see people use the widest amount of dollar differences in their comparisons. As part of rationalizing, we selectively pick the "facts" to fit our beliefs, and tune out everything out to minimize cognitive dissonance. Hence, arguing about it is like yelling at a deaf man. They won't hear you, and you'll just get mad. Say it once, and leave it at that.

The truth is, the dollar difference is beside the point. Early adopters (all here) are price-insensitive, and most have ample disposable spending to feed their lust for new toys, or else they wouldn't be early adopters. All these "mine is cheaper" is just a way to convince ourselves that we should buy the gadget, because it's a "good deal."
[Xoom General] Smokexz:
Look if you get hit by tech envy now, then you might as well just wait for quad core, the fact is these devices bare a lot of the same features and offer the same things, if you are buying a device to just say you have it, then you are obviously too stupid to be trusted with money. These things are meant to be used and enjoyed. For example, I have a Nexus S, I went to my local Best Buy and tried out their iPhone 4 that was on display. I enjoyed it and thought in many ways it was better than my Nexus S, however I looked at how I used my Nexus S and realized that there was no point in switching between devices, they do the same thing have the same specs and cost me about the same, except I got my Nexus S first. Hell I was about to buy an iPad 2, and I would have enjoyed it because it does everything my Xoom (maybe a bit more stable too xD). Right now, after getting used to something new you will see something different and enjoy that, because it's just a different experience. Bottom line is, this is the 5th thread I have seen asking Xoom users if they were envious of the Transformer, it's a question you ask when you yourself are envious.

Sent from my Xoom
[Xoom General] DroidHam:
I played with it yesterday, the build seemed cheap. The buttons seemed poorly made and low quality.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
>Bottom line is, this is the 5th thread I have seen asking Xoom users if they were envious of the Transformer, it's a question you ask when you yourself are envious.

I think it's normal. Early adopters are used to having buyer's remorse. It's a bit worse this time because the time duration of "having the best toy" is so compressed--about 2 months for the 3G model, and less than a month for the wifi model.

Since pent-up demand is high--fed by the iPad since last year, but constrained by HC availability until this year--the pace of hardware intros will be fairly rapid, and all of these will be "old news" just a few months from now. The Xoom was a good buy when it came out, the TF may be a good buy now, and something else will become "the good buy" come June/July. Then there is the fall/winter crop, which should improve upon these Teg2's. It's all time-relative.
[Xoom General] madsquabbles:
actually that could be said about anyone who has any type of hobby/habit or happens to be a collector of anything.:rolleyes:

forgoing your responsibilities to maintain your hobby/habit would be foolish.

i'd love to go to bb and check out the acer, but schedules are conflicting and i won't even have a chance to maybe next week, which i hope to be too infatuated with my transformer to even care.

can you notice if there's any banding versus the xoom since it's only displaying 262k colors?

my only thing is that i don't know if i should keep the xoom or return it. i will end up selling my archos 101 soon if i don't give it to my daughter.
[Xoom General] wayne710:
I played with it yesterday also. I was very impressed by the screen's sharpness and color. I also paired it with my Atrix to see if I could tether it. It paired just fine but when I opened the "wrench" on the Acer, there was no tethering option like on the Xoom. Did I miss something or is that feature not in Honeycomb and just added by Motorola?
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
I don't know why you would willingly take a lesser quality product over what you currently have unless money is just that much of an issue. Give your daughter the Acer and a copy of "Beginning Android 3", lock her up in her room and don't let her out until you're a millionaire.
[Xoom General] Smokexz:
This is true, but if you are complaining about it, then you wouldn't be a collector, collectors collect to collect, I collect gaming consoles, I have an NES an Atari a Sega Genesis and Dreamcast none of them replace each other because I collect them to play their games. Same applies here. It's sorta like new episode of South Park, Cartman got the first Human CentiPad and he was excited, but the thing obviously looked stupid he just had it because he wanted it to be cool and remain in the loop with his friends.

Sent from my Xoom
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
I have every LEGO Castle set released from like 2006-2009 or whenever the timeframe was that they were producing that line. Some of them aren't even unboxed yet... waiting to be assembled :)
[Xoom General] webvan:
To get back on topic I played for a while with both the Acer and the Xoom today at BB and didn't notice a lot of differences. The difference in the time to rotate is certainly subtle. I had my iPad 1 and I agree that the slower rotation on the Android tablets is probably just as well as I felt like locking the iPad's rotation a few times!

I'm very familiar with Android 2.x so 3.0 came as a bit of a surprise but overall it's well thought out.

I'm more concerned about the "lack of sensitivity"/"lag" of the screen of both the Xoom and the Acer compared to the iPad that "obeys" any finger movements immediately. I'd already noticed that on the Motorola Milestone but it's not an Android problem as the Samsung Galaxy S and Tab 7" don't have it based on my time with them.

I'll wait to see what the TAB 8.9" looks like but I'm thinking I'll get Samsung 7" again at some point...as soon as Skype releases an Android video version ;-)
[Xoom General] Psychokitty:
We should start a new thread on this. I would like to be able to control the angle that the tablet has to be rotated to before it changes.
[Xoom General] MitchRapp:
quick landscape / portrait switching would be cool. I do notice it being slow at times. widgets aren't helping... they reshape quite slowly
[T-Mobile LG G2x] dn3g3l:
thanks, getting phone wendesday and will do all this. shouldn't the charging battery and discharge thing and factory reset be on there also from what i read.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ZachLL88:
Very helpful! Thanks a lot
[T-Mobile LG G2x] crazythunder:
tap home and power for screenshot
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rukawa2k:
This requires a big Thanks. Good job.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Mikeglongo:
Can you unroot with that method of rooting? I'm afraid to root because I'm not tech and android savvy and have no idea what I am doing. Plus, I have all macintosh computers, will downloading that stuff be a problem?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] electric33l:
This is excellent. I figured most of this stuff out on my own, but for anyone still trying to figure out his or her device, you've pretty much taken care of everything. Needs to be stickyed.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] gubidi:
For Macs, read this post.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1048309
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Mikeglongo:
Thanks a lot gubidi, I will look at it when I get a chance. I'm a newbie at this stuff so I hope I don't damage my phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] gubidi:
No problem, this is my first Android phone too. Developers have really simplified these commands to help out us noobs :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ilanad:
How do you reboot? Power + ?????
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
Well Root just gives you admin access, which means you can do anything. Some programs require root to really get down to business, such as some of the better backup programs so they can backup a lot of the stock apps and personal settings.

Once you root there is no reason to unroot. It doesn't change anything, except permissions.

And not to worry, any application that requires root will pop up asking for access which you can accept or deny.

The main reason for Root is to use Rom Manager, which installs a custom recovery so you can flash custom roms and other files that can alter the look or functionality of certain parts of the OS. If you have no intent on altering the existing OS, you don't need root access.

Without Root, you will still be able to upgrade to new official upgrades and fixes.

Good question. On my Nexus One you hold the Track Ball, Vol Down, and Power. Lacking a trackball I guess there is not a way. Would be nice since there isn't a "Reboot" in the power menu on stock android.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Mikeglongo:
Okay, well I plan on changing the look of the phone most likely, not I think mostly what I want to use it for is to delete bloatware like the t-mobile apps that may be using up a lot of my battery. Then is it worth rooting?

And also once you root it, is it complicated to alter the look and functionality?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] notebookgrail:
My G2X and my Nissan Altima 08 doesn't go well over Bluetooth. No sound. I thought that was fixed in Froyo :(
[T-Mobile LG G2x] avetny:
good one !
[T-Mobile LG G2x] avetny:
AppPack- is it applicationsProvider.apk?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] notebookgrail:
Hmm..I will call TMO and ask for a replacement car :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] avetny:
HHAHAHAHAH nice one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] crazythunder:
there's a reboot widget in the market. works great.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] miclflores:
Can we delete/freeze SmartShare? I guess it only works with LG TVs.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Lightning Blue:
It's DLNA so it'll worth with any device that supports DLNA!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] squish099:
If you have sharing setup on a wireless network you can stream your shared files to your g2x with smart share.. it found my media share on my network works very good, but has a very plain/basic GUI.

Sent from my rooted G2X
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rroyter:
It's worth mentioning that camera API uses the specified screen brightness even though you have automatic brightness enabled. This may result in unusually dark screen when operating the camera after playing with brightness settings.

Sent from my G2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
Yea. I left it because I figured one day I'll sit down and play with it. It sounds pretty cool. I have an LG TV but it isn't wireless or smartshare capable. :(

Good to know you can use it to fileshare with network drives. That would be cool.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] baykakes:
rooting and unrooting this phone is SUPER easy on a Mac and only requires one click.... I suggest you read before rooting though...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] peacekeeper05:
Nice topic! Thanks
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Mikeglongo:
Will do, I'm still a bit worried about rooting and what-not and I've been holding it off for a better time.

Once you get it rooted, is it confusing to monitor the phone and delete bloatware?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jeffreynew23:
@ player911

People like you are the ones that make this site a pleasure.

Thank you
[T-Mobile LG G2x] JasjarMan:
Most people will say to FREEZE the bloatware rather than delete them. I went ahead an deleted so if I hard reset for whatever reason I wont get all those bloated apps back on my phone. I have a backup of my original rom with all bloatware just incase....

The ONLY thing I have noticed is that when I got my replacement phone. Before rooting the NEVER TURN OFF ON WIFI worked perfectly. AFTER root it would go to sleep after the screen went off. So when streaming slacker and the like, wifi would buffer the first song. Than after I turned off the screen and the 2nd song kicked in wifi would be off so my DATA kicked in. My answer was to just use the option in slacker to download my playlists to the sd card.

Other than that rooting is great.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] JasjarMan:
Here Are My Tips

QUICK SETTING LITE VERSION.

Download and press and hold the search button. Make quick setting the default when prompt. Now you can just lower or raise the brightness, turn on/off bluetooth, wifi, etc.... with a single press and hold.

- CLUTCHPAD.

Puts a round droid in the middle of the left side scree (or right side and buttom). It brings up the apps previous used, easier than pressing and holding the home button which to me takes way to long before it pops up the apps used. Try it, doesn't affect system performance or battery life.

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ROOTED.

- FIRST, charge your phone all the way to 100%. Once it's done leave it charging for another 15 minutes. If your patient, another 30 minutes. Now open up rom manager and press on "boot in recovery". Than go to ADVANCE\WIPE BATTERY STATS.

Your battery will improve!

- Backup you current rom once you have it all nice and setup. So if you have to exchange the phone because of a hardware problem. You can just root the new phone and restore from the backup. Nice and easy and saves tons of time!

- SETCPU.

Save battery life and speeds up the phone when needed.

I leave the max to 1000, the low to 608 (any lower I get a little lag when turning the screen back on).

CPUBOOSTLITE.

This is good if you want SETCPU to highlight the option in SCALING. You open cpuboostlite, set the scaling to performance than close it. Go to setcpu and it will be highlighted, set it to performance or whatever. Now just uninstall cpuboostlite.

From MY expirience the scaling in setcpu does work.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
It is actually really easy to delete stuff, which can be a bad thing. If you delete something you weren't supposed to out of the system folder, you might end up with an unbootable phone.

While you shouldn't let that scare you but don't just go in and go crazy like I usually do (until your seasoned). Ultimately don't delete something if you don't know exactly what it is.

Basically all of the applications and games are stored in /system/app. All the Tmobile bloatware is in there, along with Nova and Need for Speed, EA Store, and a bunch others. Deleting NON-ESSENTIAL apps aren't a big deal while others are your phone, sms, email and other servicing apps will take away functionality.

Really I wouldn't recommend anyone deleting anything from the phone until we start to have some custom roms or at least something to fall back to. There are a few options currently but achieving those without previous experience will be stressful and complicated.

Most of the guys here come from other phones that we've hacked, slashed, screwed up, recovered, and did it again. If your new, now is not the time to experiment.

I would recommend to root and download Rom Manager so you can install ClockWork Mod custom recovery. Because with a custom recovery you can do a backup which you can restore if something bad happens. Once you have a backup, you can experiment all you want.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Mikeglongo:
@player

Maybe I'll make someone root it for me.

I just basically want to get the bloatware out, and I want a better battery life, feel like it's so horrible
[T-Mobile LG G2x] flexnix:
Here were some issues I had with the phone fresh out the box but they haven't come back when I did a HARD reset (not factory or soft reset).

1) Within hours the phone rebooted twice. First time opening Need For Speed and after the "EA" logo it rebooted. 2nd time I don't remember but it was something random.

2) The phone kept my sync'ing logo on the notification and it wouldn't go away if I turned ON/OFF my sync'ing for everything.

Hard reset, the phone has been niiiiiiiiceee.

Also, might not matter but my Quadrant Score before hard reset 2110....After 2412.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
Updated the first post with a new NvFlasher App which makes installing Clockwork Recovery the right way, easier.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
Bump. Can we please get this Stickied!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] EmceeGeek:
I keep getting this message when I try to delete the apps, "--.apk cannot be deleted because the file system is read-only." Why is that?

Edit: Nevermind, I hadn't mounted R/W
[T-Mobile LG G2x] VisedMonk:
thanks op. good to know what bloatware can be frozen/uninstalled w/o any adverse affects on the g2x. also, its so nice to have this resource and its links to other useful development threads all in one place. thanks again.

imported from detroit using xda premium app
[T-Mobile LG G2x] shahharsh2010:
thank you for this guide helped me out a lot on my G2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] monte666:
Im not new but i like the fact you put this together so thanks
[General Topics] eSu.Matix:
So basicly my problem is this. I have my contacts saved on vCard on my SD card. I usually inport'em but sometimes when I flash with new ROM and I go contacts -> Import/Export -> Import from SD card it finds'em and imports'em but they are not visible in the contacts. I need to use apps like aContacts to use em. And when I edit contact, there is that "Google contact" with my e-mail under. Can someone tell me what to do. Anyone can help or advice me?

Thanks!

P.S. I know I posted this in subforum but I toth here more people can help me. ;)
[General Topics] ErOR22:
Sorry I can't help you with your particular problem but I do have a suggestion.

Import your contacts to your google contacts and that way you will always have your contacts synched and won't have to import all the time.
[General Topics] eSu.Matix:
Sloved: http://www.drakaz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=585
[General Topics] GZA1337:
hi, I have the same problem that the option "import/export to/from SD card" is missing. But if you only want to import your contacts, just click on the *.vcf file in your file explorer and the import process will start!
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] theimpaler747:
Hey everyone,

Just thought I'd introduce myself and let everyone know a little about who your forum mod is. I'm an Epic 4G user, and a theme developer for said phone. I'm looking forward to working with you guys, and I'm looking toward cooperation and production with this thread! Thanks guys, and feel free to post here as an off topic general post ;)

Make sure to report posts which are violating forum rules so that I may action them! Thanks :D
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] langers1972:
Thanks man, we have waited with baited breath for this thread. Now just need some ROMs!
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] theimpaler747:
Lol, no problem :) Glad to be here!
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] simplistian:
Thanks for your work. Have you ever think of ordering an Ideos X5? :)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] theimpaler747:
Nah, I have too little time to order any more phones :p :)

Sent from a truly Epic phone on the XDA Premium app ;)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] kari0ca:
Hi, theimpaler747.

Could i suggest to split the foruns of U8800 and U8800 Pro?

i think that having things of 2 phones together is a bit messy
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Ozgurce:
+1

I am agree with you!
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] dancer_69:
+1

The way the things are now starts to be confusing.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] akalos:
+1..........
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] tiagovale2:
Makes all sense.

+1
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Druida69:
+1!!!!!!!!!
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] ValenteL:
Like the Nexus S and Nexus S 4G, two sub forums is better:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=880
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Tommixoft:
Mister moderator- you do not doing your duty-forum is awful.. too many ****ty topics in bad places.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] sport_billy:
It seems that moderator is not viewing this forum often.

Is there someone else we can contact to solve this mess?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] kari0ca:
there's any other forum mod here?

If no, could someone try to put some order in here?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lateris:
+1

I agree we need two different forums, as the phones are totally different except for the looks.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mkr17:
very much true . initially we had a few pro threads but now they have totally messed up this forum , pls do something ( no offence to pro users )
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] timmymarsh:
Guys,

I will flag this up with the moderator team, in the meantime please can you give us some time, we're working on getting it.

Thanks. :cool: