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[G Tablet General] ntnunk:
I would say both have their places. I love my gtab and believe it suits my needs and temperament to a tee. However, I am by training and inclination a tinkerer and I don't mind the occasional lockup or reboot as the price I pay for the ability to tinker. My wife and mother, on the other hand, would be seriously torqued if it happened to them on anything approaching a regular basis. Consequently, they both have iPads and not gTabs.

I am the antithesis of an apple fanboy (my wife gets pissed because I constantly refer to her iPhone as an iSuck) but not really for any reason other than what I perceive as the inherent arrogance of The Steve and his minions. And I dislike being dictated to. But other than my philosophical issues with apple I really can't say too much negative about the iPad, other than I think it's ridiculous that they have neither SD card support or, and I consider this borderline criminal neglect, USB ports. For people like my technophobic mother though, they are just what the doctor ordered. The iPad is the only device we've ever found that will consistently allow her to access the web and email without turning her off or intimidating her.

On the other hand, I think the android tablet market has a lot of promise but is trying hard to strangle itself at birth with the pricing structures the manufacturers keep adopting. That's all I will say about that for now (though I did rant about it here: http://www.swamphole.org/content/tablet-computing-101). If the vendors can get that under control and Google doesn't piss too many people off with their to-date refusal to release Honeycomb, I think these tablets have a very bright future. Right now I don't think any of them are stable enough for anybody but the people who are tech savvy and/or don't want an iPad for whatever reason. For those folks that are willing to put in the effort I think devices like the gTab can be made into far superior tablets than any iPad.
[G Tablet General] rajeevvp:
Thanks, Macros764, for your post. This us (non-Apple users) versus them (Apple users) feeling has existed for ages now and it's good of you to remind us that there are 2 almost entirely different markets (and possibly mentalities) at work here. Another person noticed what you hinted at in your post (the Honda vs Lexus distinction) and commented on it long ago.

I'm talking about Neal Stephenson's interesting essay, "In the Beginning... Was the Command line", which you can search for on Google (as a new poster, I can't add a direct link here).

His essay written in 1999 was about Linux, Windows and Apple users, but you can replace Linux with Android everywhere in that essay and it will still all ring true.

I like Mr. Stephenson's terms for the different kinds of users. Android users are like H. G. Wells's Morlocks--they're the ones who like to tinker with stuff and tend to know how those things work. Apple users have always been the Eloi. They don't care how things work as long as it does (and it looks good).

I tend to be a Morlock (and I suspect a lot of the users on this forum are too, to varying degrees), but some days, I wish I could be an Eloi.

Enjoy reading the essay. Be warned that in true Stephenson style, it is a very long piece.
[G Tablet General] goodintentions:
I don't think it implies any such thing. It does, however, define your social status. It's like what school you went to for college. For some, the only reason they went to school A, which costs $60,000 a year, is because they're following the family tradition and the father is some lawyer or doctor. For others, a school like Iowa State or U. of I. looks just as good but costs only a fraction of what school A charges.

The ipad and the xoom really were designed for people to show off. Everything about them looks, exterior wise, looks good and classy. The gtab, for lack of a better word, is ugly looking. Here is what Robert has to say about the difference between an android device like the gtab and something more high class like the xoom or the ipad.

Android is like having an old beat-up Chevy - not much to look at at first, but after some tweaking under the hood, a good paint job and redesigning the interior, you have a great car that not only runs and looks good, but is designed for you because you made it that way. iOS is like a really nice looking car that came off the assembly line - looks nice, runs great and all the car shops have accessories for it, but there's nothing unique about it. Looks like everyone else's car. So it depends on what you want.

And yet a lot of people on this forum have specifically expressed that if they had the money they'd buy the ipad or xoom.

In fact, I am convinced that if the ipad, xoom, and gtab all cost the same, nobody would even consider buying the gtab... except for me. I like to hunt down non-mainstream items to own. I don't like my stuff to look like everyone else's.
[G Tablet General] Pexcer:
I have a G-tablet. I like it. I wish it had Netflix and HuluPlus like the Ipad. I wish it was easy to find accessories for it, like the Ipad. Having not ever actually used an Ipad, at this moment I sort of wish I had one, If I had one I would probably miss all the tinkering I can do with my Gtab.

If my Gtab could stream netflix and huluplus it would be no contest.
[G Tablet General] schettj:
I have both an iPad2 and a Gtablet. The iPad2 is very nice, and does what it does very well. And, it prints to the local laser printer. Streams netflix, etc.

You have to jailbreak it to get access to the stripped down MacOS that is iOS, with shell, etc, which I'm not doing - did that with an iPod Touch a few years ago, and although its fun it really doesn't add much now that the app store has soaked up most developers.

iPad2 = just works. If it does what you want, you're golden. If you're willing to risk a $600 device, you can jailbreak it and gain a level of tinkering that is about 20% of the tinkering you can do in Android on the GTablet.

So, yeah - GTablet is way more fun to tinker with, swapping in new kernels, playing with various roms... Android is still a lot rougher as well, and more open (you can drop in stuff *not* from a walled garden) but for the average person who just wants a pad to couch surf, read the news at breakfast, do their email, read books, or play games... iPad2 is going to do it. It's going to do it as well as a laptop, and a lot more conveniently, without the hassle of virus checking or other crap that most people would just as soon not deal with.

I feel like the "status symbol" argument is a strawman. If you're just a regular person, not into coding, tinkering, etc... not into more than surfing and email and maybe some games, the iPad is going to be as good as a laptop, and about as much if not less in cost. This is why the iPad is eating into laptop sales, and killed the netbook market.

Can Android get there and compete? Unless Honeycomb is way WAY better than Gingerbread, I think they're at least a year if not two away from parity with the current iPad2 just on software. Again, I'm not considering myself (or likely anyone who would even visit xda-developers) as the iPad target market. But there are way more people in the target market than are here :)
[G Tablet General] D Wright:
I have both. I bought the G tab back in January knowing full well the issues with it. It was my intention to mod it like most here but for one thing or another haven't done it yet. I do like customizing main screen anyway I like to, with widgets and such, something the IPad can't do. The fact that I can convert movies on my pc and copy by USB drive is great. Photo viewing, music, surfing the net, audio books are great on it.

I decided I really wanted the IPad for my business which has many more and better apps suited for it. I can take pictures of job sites , keep track of estimates and invoicing with some very good apps.*

The whole Mac cult is creepy but I knew about that. The display is very good, no denying. Form factor, great.

I am keeping both of them.
[Atrix 4G General] HungryEel:
I am on 1.5.7 AT&T Atrix unlocked and rooted on Fido network in Canada.

With Fido if you have data plan over 1GB, you are free to tether. However, when I try to turn on mobile hotspot, it says "validating Wi-Fi hotspot" and then gives me a notification: "Account not set up for WI-FI hotspot, to enable, go to att.com.mywireless"

What should I do to enable this on my phone?
[Atrix 4G General] sipjca:
Edit Build.prop I believe

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[Atrix 4G General] Chubby_Skunk:
Well the phone is an unlocked AT&T phone so it wasn't meant for a Canadian Cell company. But go download Barnacle WiFi Tether. It works the same way the only difference is that the Hotspot has WAP2 and the Barnacle only has WAP. But it really doesn't matter since it is short-range signals
[Atrix 4G General] DarkRyoushii:
I had that problem.. repeatedly restarting my phone and turning wifi on/off got it to work.. also mine doesn't seem to start when near heaps of other wifi enabled devices such as 2 laptops and an iPhone 4. took it away to the other side of the room and it started almost instantly.. could be coincidence
[Atrix 4G General] HungryEel:
could you please elaborate?
[Atrix 4G General] sipjca:
If you open the build.prop file.in notepad++ there is a section for wifi tether it is set to 0 if you change it to 1 it should enable I will try today

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[Atrix 4G General] parravan:
I've got atrix 1.57 ulocked but not rooted yet-- on rogers- still checking to see how to use hotspot.

I can tether with Easytether.....

will keep trying.. not sure I want to go back to 1.26 to root it - waiting for better solution for now.

Will keep monitoring and post whatever I come up with.
[Atrix 4G General] parravan:
What directory on the phone is that in?

I assume I just open the file to edit it when attached with USB?

Thanks
[Atrix 4G General] sipjca:
You have to have root... I have a modded build.prop file already ill post it then u push onto phone using adb.

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[Atrix 4G General] parravan:
But I need to root first?
[Atrix 4G General] sipjca:
EDIT: I may be wrong... Heres the Build.Prop

http://goo.gl/L7Hjp
[Atrix 4G General] HungryEel:
hello, could you post tell me the directory on my phone that has the file?

It will be ok to "cp original internetlsd/original" "mv original original.bak"

then download the original to my computer from internal SD, edit in notepad then put the edited back to where the original was?
[Atrix 4G General] HungryEel:
I googled around to find out where the build.prop was

here is my settings for wifi (which is identical to the one you posted)

#For enabling Wispr Feature

ro.mot.wifi.hotspot=1

# To enable Google Froyo Tethering (USB & WIFI hotspot)

ro.tether.denied=false

so shouldn't my tether work if denied = false?

I was also reading an article about build.prop apparently you can fake things with it like android version #, which makes me think this file just stores variable to display?
[Atrix 4G General] DarkRyoushii:
have you made sure to add "default,tether" without the quotation marks as the APN type for your Fido APN?

also, due do a bug, you must have Wi-Fi on before you enable tethering, otherwise it will just hang.

so Turn Wi-Fi On THEN turn on mobile hotspot.
[Atrix 4G General] HungryEel:
Ok I feel so stupid now... adding ,tether after default made it work
[Atrix 4G General] Shaydar:
Hi, i'm also interested in this.

Could you please tell what is the procedure to enbale this?

I'm on a french network.
[Xperia Arc General] xperiax10.awesome:
Did any tried to root ur Xperia Arc (2.3.2) using GingerBreak??

As per desc:

This App was tested on Gingerbread (2.3.3) but might also run on Froyo and Honeycomb.
[Xperia Arc General] NielDK:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1045204
[Xperia Arc General] xperiax10.awesome:
thanks but is it working for XPERIA ARC !!!??!!!
[Xperia Arc General] Focal86:
The title says Play, Arc and Neo
[Xperia Arc General] rein_hiryu:
Well, it works for my Arc nice and perfectly :)
[Xperia Arc General] xperiax10.awesome:
cool, finally I rooted my xperia ARC :)

these are very simple steps(copied from different threads):

1. Install the attached apk: Gingerbreak-v1.00

after installing most people getting this error - "could not extract assets".

TO OVERCOME THIS, just copy the attached ADB.zip and extract it on your laptop (windows)

say at

E:\mobile_Xperia\ADB

goto above path in your cmd promt and types these lines (your phone should be connected to laptop in debugging mode)

E:\mobile_Xperia\ADB>adb shell rmdir /data/local/tmp

E:\mobile_Xperia\ADB>adb shell mkdir /data/local/tmp

NOW JUST INSTALL THE apk file again and click on ROOT :D
[Xperia Arc General] General_Grant:
Last night I have rooted my device in this way. Now the question - how to integrate it into FlashTool, as well as Busybox and xRecovery ?
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
I only keep getting: No such file or directory....
[Xperia Arc General] mikrokiwi:
Extract the ADB.zip into any folder, then inside that folder shift + right click and select Open command window here. In the command window enter: adb shell rm -r /data/local/tmp/* and then restart the gingerbreak app.

Chainfire said he will update the app in the next release to fix this issue ;)
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
On a mac, it won't work like that.
[Xperia Arc General] mikrokiwi:
Of course not, is it the osx terminal or adb that gives you this error?
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
Os X terminal, when I run adb I can't type any commands in the command/terminal window. So I have to use Os X terminal.
[Xperia Arc General] mikrokiwi:
Well, the zip wont work for OSX since its a windows executable ;) You should try to get adb to work on your system (Im sure there are lots of guides), or just wait for the next release of the app.
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
I know that lol...

I got all the files and tools for Os X, but when I run ADB it goes into Os X terminal anyway, so I have to use it I guess...
[Xperia Arc General] beeman:
It worked for me, got root on my Arc :)
[Xperia Arc General] punkmonkey1984:
Im getting this what am i doing wrong

Getting :
[Xperia Arc General] :
use rm -r /data/local/tmp
[Xperia Arc General] punkmonkey1984:
Nice one that worked :D
[Xperia Arc General] keijames:
I tried this it works for me, my ARC rooted.

C:\mobile_Xperia\ADB>adb shell rm /data/local/tmp/*

C:\mobile_Xperia\ADB>adb shell rmdir /data/local/tmp

C:\mobile_Xperia\ADB>adb shell mkdir /data/local/tmp

Then run Gingerbreak-v1.00.apk

cheer

James
[Xperia Arc General] diggedy:
This thread needs merging with the other one, two discussions on the same thing
[Xperia Arc General] SiRIus[X]:
rooted my ARC but the strangest thing happen! root explorer FC on me..
[Xperia Arc General] xperiax10.awesome:
Root Explorer is not working for me as well (FORCE CLOSE) using v2.10.3

AFTER ROOT:

1. I am able to change fonts successfully :)

2. Not able to use ShootMe properly, colors are not coming :(
[Xperia Arc General] punkmonkey1984:
Root explorer works fine for me version V2.14.2

Try taking it out of superuser (long hold then forget), so it asks for root permissions again, that fixed titanium backup for me
[Xperia Arc General] rein_hiryu:
With no. 2 its happens to me too, all the image that had been taken by ShootMe became magenta color only. Any explanation?
[Xperia Arc General] Hikaru Kaze:
those who got red tint in screenshot should try "screenshot" app..
[Xperia Arc General] george1983c:
Noob here can someone post instructions for linux
[Xperia Arc General] george1983c:
I remember similar stories with the x10 when it had just started to be rooted. something was mentioned about a loose root. Is it possible to run z4 root after this rooting process I think it gave a stronger root
[Xperia Arc General] george1983c:
Anyone gimme some help for rooting with ubuntu
[Xperia Arc General] TanMak:
Just rooted my arc as well using this process ... awesome!
[Xperia Arc General] :
Works well.....

sent from Xperia Arc
[Xperia Arc General] mr_wehbe:
root

hi,

you take the GingerBreak-v1.10.apk from here

http://xdaforums.com/atta...6&d=1303479887

and you just have to install the apk. no need for ADB
[Xperia Arc General] omaritta:
can someone tell how did you root it this way

in Noob directions :)

:p hehe

i tried the bootloader unloacked and the root it with first i got 2 bad block encountred and the phone didnt work

i flashed and fixed it

so i need help with this root so i can root it right

so anyone would like help a noob here ^_^
[Xperia Arc General] QuentinCosta:
the answer is here... simple and easy (look at the red letters only!)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13119939&postcount=39
[Xperia Arc General] omaritta:
did it take forever to root ??
[Xperia Arc General] omaritta:
wow its took too long but it worth waitting

it wooooooooooooooorks THX THx THx

titanum backup forced me to close ....

after rooting i had programe called superuser

i dono if the forced closed means i didnt root yyet :((((
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
Keep getting force close on Titanium Back-up all the time...tried the forget thing in superuser, tried uninstalling and installing again...same thing...

now I can't do what I wanned to do with the root anyway - remove bloatware....
[Xperia Arc General] 279Paddy:
tibackup force closes on me too....rootexplorer works totally fine though, it'd be great if someone had a solution...it's the main reason why i've rooted, just as Cim said :)

EDIT: an update for titanium backup has just been uploaded to the market, now both rootexpl. and tibackup work totally fine! Cim, check your market ;D
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
damnit...and I purchased SystemApp Remover...ofc more than 15 mins have passed also... Grrr!

now I got a new problem though...ShootMe makes all the pictures heavily magenta tinted....like wtf?!
[Xperia Arc General] kiz1983:
shootme is not compatible, not our phone problem..

try screenshot, works like a charm for me..
[Xperia Arc General] 279Paddy:
LOL sorry to hear that bro, but at least you acquired it legally :D yeah, i've read that many people have the same problem with shootme, i personally don't use it :o
[Xperia Arc General] keijames:
I also get same error, but after I install busybox then reboot, the Titanium backup works.

For root explorer, you need to install lastest version, it work perfectly.

cheer
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
great, thx!
[Xperia Arc General] QuentinCosta:
for most issues use this. like he said... or watch my last posts...

greetz Q.
[Xperia Arc General] baste07:
works perfectly!
[Xperia Arc General] bartbla:
it took about 15 minutes, but it works.

Nice!
[Xperia Arc General] george1983c:
anyone getting weird network settings after using this. i have unknown ip address and a IP search over net put me in heartfordshire? ??? I'm in glasgow
[Xperia Arc General] QuentinCosta:
you have to redownload the APN settings from your provider...

go to settings > sony ericsson > download settings > finish ;)
[Xperia Arc General] festa20:
This tool works for me I just got my arc few hours ago and its awesome busy his installed and also titanium deleted the crap they put on here defo a little bit faster. Really cant wait for custom roms on this arc
[Xperia Arc General] winnerzero:
works great! titanium backup works well after installing busybox and rootexplorer as well. I removed bloatware and now the phone feels faster...thanks!
[Xperia Arc General] baste07:
what bloats did you uninstalled?
[Xperia Arc General] PollPixx:
Thanks for gingerbreak, works well except for titanium backup. No matter what solution mentioned here I tried, further on every thing seems to be in order...
[Xperia Arc General] muk12:
worked on my arc too

worked on my arc too :)
[Xperia Arc General] vsinha71:
works like a charm. finally my arc has been rooted. incase on pressing roots it stays on the enabling mode forever, pls switch off your phone and reboot. got mine done on the third try.
[Thunderbolt General] entraik:
So i flashed the new radio via HBOOT...was having problems with it so i downloaded the radio version the TB originally came with and flashed that in hboot. Now I went back to check software version...but it's still the same...how can i confirm i have my original radio version back?
[Thunderbolt General] rbox:
"Baseband version" under "Software information" is the version of the CDMA radio.
[Thunderbolt General] slckofit:
Settings>About Phone>Software Information
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwiktune:
This is really killing me, someone please help lol heres how it goes

On boot, takes a good bit for the 3G icon to appear, eventually Phone has 3G icon gray with arrows then switches to D [still gray], i click something like a browser or Slack Radio it goes to connect and if its fast enough it does [icon changes to RED/GREEN arrows] but usually its a gray D, then the icon disappears completely. After about 60 seconds or so the icon reappears and I can continuing surfing the net/listen to music..etc. Then after about a song or 2 this happens all over again. Im in place with good reception and i just dont know what could be going on here. I tried pulling battery, doing the *228 option 2...anyone know how i can fix this
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwiktune:
just tried hard reset, no dice
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleek69:
A nice excuse to call verizon and get a replacement device (most likely for free).
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwiktune:
I've called them, they try and shoot me over to Samsung, samsung trying to tell me to get a hold of my 3G service provider...verizon did tell me i was due to upgrade, but i love this phone (when 3G worked) i just dont understand what froyo did, when im downloading stuff it works fine, but as soon as I stop and try to access something use 3G i have to wait for the 3G to "reboot" so to speak cuz thats when it disappears for minute, then comes back for me to use...but with streaming music you can see how this is an issue
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdaddylongstrokex.:
I was having this same problem when they were pushing the EA28 update a couple of weeks ago which never successfully updated to my device I might add. I went into the Verizon store and after the rep spent about 10min on the phone with whoever.... Told me they were sending me a new phone. Received new phone with the EA28 update already installed 3G and all data worked GREAT! Attempted the Froyo update 6 times yesterday all unsuccessful and now the new phone I have is having the exact same problems with data connection. Comments and ideas would be appreciated. But ya better believe I'm goin into Verizon if the update attempt I'm doing now doesnt work.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleek69:
I'd get another replacement from verizon tbh. If then it still doesn't resolve your issues ask to speak with a manager and tell him your situation. They might hook you up with a free upgrade.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwiktune:
Im going to go down to the store so I can get a face to face and show them whats happening. I mean i just wanted to make sure this wasnt some new thing on Froyo that im not understanding. I see it goes "D" [dormant] but it shouldnt disappear and take a minute to start up and let me use it right...thats poppycock!
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Terror_1:
Are you using "juice defender" by any chance?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdaddylongstrokex.:
You're lucky that yours just takes a minute to re-establish the connection, mine will just keep giving me network errors and telling me to check network access ect., depending on what app/service I am trying to connect. Exactly the same things that happened when the EA28 updates kept failing on my last phone only 2weeks ago. Also the Froyo update that says will take 15min to download takes over an hour even though my 3g stays on constantly when downloading from Verizon.