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[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
My initial assessment allready indicated in the earlier post. I told him that his G1 is not rooted yet. But his problem was and still is being stuck in HBOOT.

Am I right or am I wrong?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
"yet" being the operative word, it implies that root is required

everyone is obsessed with root

the device is not rooted

therefore it is doubtful the problem is software related -- no root = no power to screw it up

rooting will not fix it -- see above

As I have said in an earlier post

hboot is booting because either

boot and recovery partitions don't hold a valid image

camera button is depressed

another possibility is the misc partition is stuck with boot to hboot flag

given that OP can boot to recovery by holding home I would discount 1

so we either have a faulty cam button, a stuck cam button

if the camera button appears to be in good order we could use fastboot to clear misc

fastboot erase misc
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
Understood.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbourn27:
Some how it started working again no issuses on it now posting.went ahead and rooted now running cyanogen 6.1 final just need to get the new radio and spl and kernel anyone have the radio/spl zips instead of imgs? And can I go to new spl and radio from these?

1.33.2005 (drea10000)

Cpld-4

2.22.19.26I

Thanks everyone for the help .
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
flashing SPL and radio with recovery is not recommended

you can end up in a loop where you can't even get to hboot

read ezterry's post on the 2708

it is quite simple once you have read through it
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbourn27:
I seen that but would I need to have my adb shell set up for that or can you do it maybe I read wrong
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
not adb shell it is fastboot

fastboot is an android developer tool

it is much safer than recovery when it comes to flashing radio and SPL

providing the info in your post is correct it is probably safe to flash with recovery

but why take the risk? fastboot is easy when you get to grips with it
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbourn27:
So your speaking of the fast boot on the phone? I really never have used it just the hboot and recovery that's the main reason I said recovery cause I'm more comfortable with it but I'm willing to try if you talking about the phones fastboot. And are my radio/spl able to upgrade strait to the new spl and 2708?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
fastboot runs on your PC while the phone is connected via usb and is in fastboot mode

without going into too much detail (detail is in the link below)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831139

fastboot is installed with this package

http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html

get phone into fastboot by powering on holding back

connect usb

on PC open up a command prompt (create a shortcut to command(or cmd can't remember which I don't use windows)in the Android sdk tools directory or whereever you installed fastboot.exe)

fastboot flash radio <insert full path to>radio-2.22.27.08.img

fastboot flash hboot <insert full path to>hboot-1.33.0013d.img

fastboot reboot-bootloader

tip: if the img files are in the same folder as fastboot.exe (and you are to) then <insert full path to> is not needed

the 2825 radio is newer ezterry has provided that as a flashable zip for easy switching

but he does also note that whilst it has saftey features built in it is still safer to use fastboot

you may like to extract the 2825 radio and substitute that for radio-2.22.27.08.img above thus negating that step
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbourn27:
What about with ubuntu? I don't use windows often any more either
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
ubuntu is easy :D

untar it

:o I gave the wrong link for fastboot

http://developer.htc.com/adp.html#s2

put it in PATH

mine is in ~/bin/

you might need to add ~/bin/ to your PATH by adding

export PATH=~/bin:$PATH

to your ~/.bashrc

and your done (make sure it is executable with chmod o+x)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbourn27:
Okay so fast boot isn't the same as the adb shell I couldn't get it to recognize the phone in adb
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
interesting

it should be straight forward with ubuntu as it already has udev rules

http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html

check /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules

for this line

0bb4 is HTC's vendorID
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ldrifta:
honestly call me crazy but it sounds like the camera button might be broken or stuck.. did you spill anything on the device? lol if not than i would try different hboots.. DO NOT flash the latest ones.. but try the 2010 or anyone before that.. hope it helps, sorry for your problems
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
like magic it got fixed

but hey if you can find booze and fag ends you're welcome to them
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ldrifta:
haha do you know how it fixed? or was it jus randomly working after your 100's of attempts to fix it? lol glad its working for you now though...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbourn27:
Just magically working don't know how crazy stuff
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcremin:
I have the same problem as the original poster. My G1 is stuck at the multi-color hboot bootloader screen everytime I boot. I can boot to recovery fine, but I can't seem to do much in there since my device no longer has root. I was running CM6 and I am giving my phone to someone else, so I was attempting to put it back to stock with the RC29 image.

I don't believe my buttons are stuck because on the hboot screen, I can click the back button and the screen will refresh, then I can click the camera button and the screen will refresh again. So the buttons appear to be working.

I think what you said about the hboot flag in misc could be the issue here. Main reason I think so is because when I last rebooted in CM6, I chose "reboot to recovery" and installed an update.zip which was supposed to restore the factory default loaders. Turns out that was a big mistake.

I have tried everything to get it to actually load the ROM, but it just goes back to the bootloader. Is there anyway for me to get to fastboot on the non-engineering SPL to disable the hboot flag?

Thanks in advance!

Joe
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lmcdaniel215:
Try re flashing a spl and radio thats how i normally fix thoes problems
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcremin:
I have been able to toggle the radio back and forth between a couple versions, but how would I go about flashing a different SPL? The phone is back to the stock SPL, so that means I have lost root access and can only flash the proper "signed" loaders, correct? If I could get something with fastboot or HardSPL, I'm sure I could do just fine, but as it is, it won't let me flash much to it since it just complains about the update not being signed.... :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndDiSa:
1) You could try to flash the orange-xxx.nbh from Terry's 2708 thread (a link is in my signature). I am not sure it will be accepted from your phone, but this has a built-in engineering SPL. From there you can continue.

2) You need to do the whole rooting procedure, i.e. flashing dreaimg.nbh, get root access, flash custom recovery, flash new spl ...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcremin:
I'm looking at the links in your signature, but I'm not finding any orange files to flash. Can you provide me a link directly to the thread you are referring to?

I can flash the dreaimg.nbh file just fine, my problem is that it won't boot to it. The phone immediately boots back to the multi-color hboot screen. I don't even care to re-root the phone, I'd be perfectly happy to if I could get it to boot back to stock.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcremin:
Ok, I finally found the orange-1.58.73.2.nbh file.

From the other thread, it says "enter fastboot and run 'fastboot flash nbh orange-1.58.73.2.nbh'"

But back to the issue, I don't have fastboot. I'll try seeing if I can flash this file, but I doubt I would have anyway to do so unless hboot will recognize it and flash it in the same way that I would flash dreaimg.nbh.

Edit: Well that didn't get me too far. Hboot simply gave me a message that said "not allow".
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcremin:
I assume that means nobody has any other ideas on how to bring this phone back to life?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
So, let me get this straight. You turn on the power by holding the camera+power and got in.

But when you try to flash the nhb file it said not allow?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcremin:
My main problem is that my phone boots directly into hboot whether I'm holding in any buttons or not.

I don't have root anymore, so from within hboot I can flash DREAIMG.nhb all day long without a problem, it just won't boot to it. When I tried flashing the orange nhb file is when it gave me the "not allow" message.

I can also boot into recovery, but it won't let me flash anything that isn't signed, otherwise I'd flash something that had fastboot access and I think I'd be back in business.

So that's where I'm stuck. I think Effdee hit the nail on the head when he suspected that the misc partition is stuck with boot to hboot flag. The trick is figuring how how I can clear that flag without having access to much.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
Are you able to use ADB?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcremin:
I don't think so... Can you tell me how to confirm? I've never used ADB before.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lmcdaniel215:
Adb for dummies is a good tut. Thats how i learned it i believe its in the developing section,,,, some one correct me?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
@ jcremin - Here you go!

[HOW-TO] ADB for Dummies(How-To Learner's Guide)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcremin:
Thanks! I've been a bit busy to get back to working on this phone, but when I get a little extra time, I'll look over that ADB info and see if I have any luck with that! Fingers are crossed!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fineazbro:
Is it possible to use KB5 modem on bi-winning V2? other word will it work without any problem:(
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VibrantWind:
Been using KB5 on bi-winning v2 the past couple of days and it works flawlessly
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oka1:
Yup faster and better battery life running BiWinning v2 the only odd thing is this modem when connecting makes a sound in the ear piece right before it starts ringing.......not a bother just odd one of the other modems did the same thing to my phone but way faster connects and data transfer
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fineazbro:
kb5 modem

thank you guys for your reply.... just flash KB5 seems to work pretty good
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oka1:
you're welcome, thank you for being appreciative of the help .........:):cool:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Extreme125:
Hey guys have you wonder what would happen if you put a windows rom to a droid will it burn the cpu? will it overload the system? will it explode? You never know what could happen who dares me to try it out and see what happens and post information on what happend with my droid

p.s. dont worry I still got my 1 year phone replacement :P
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mylasthope:
Hey guys,

I've tested 2 different evos with a lot of the different versions of wireless tether (3.0-pre14, 2.0.8-pre1, .0.7, .0.6, and .0.5), and I can barely get 1 mpbs with 4g. I've ran the speed test on both phones. I average around 7 mpbs on both phones. I get around 4-5 with easy tether (only had on one phone). Running warm 2.2 rls 5 on both phones. Do you guys know which version of wireless tether would be best? Or if I can somehow use easy tether to connect to multiple laptops at once?
[Atrix 4G General] roscoejackson:
After posting on the Moto support forum over a month ago about how I'd been through 5 Atrix and all of them suffered from terrible voice call quality, I received a PM from the forum manager. That was a couple weeks ago. Moto actually arranged to give me a "tested unit" that was supposedly inspected by an audio engineer. It was without a box, battery, or cover. To me, this could just mean a refurb'd Atrix.

The weird thing, however, was that they requested my location and phone #, and after about a week I got a call from Moto guy who wanted to meet up to swap units. I met this dude in a ****ing shopping mall Starbucks, and we chatted for a few. His business card says something like "Motorola Service Trainer" or something along those lines. Wouldn't you figure they'd just mail me the new one rather than waste their employees' time? Bizarre.

TO THE POINT, the new unit is free of the muffled/garbled/****-ass voice call quality. My voice to other callers sounds 100 times more crisp and clear.

I wonder how many others got this same treatment from Moto? I know there are quite a few pissed off people out there with crappy voice quality.
[Atrix 4G General] Ciloteille:
I would walk with caution. Probably for no reason. However at my line of work we would ship you a tested unit and have you call us with a support ticket number. Maybe on a direct line with original tech who processed your original claim if the complaint was" sizable"
[Atrix 4G General] roscoejackson:
Oh I don't question the legitimacy of the exchange. The entire process was initiated by the Motorola Support Forum Manager... I just thought it was unusual.

Just for fun, I checked the warranty of the new unit and it's good until 6/2/2012.
[Atrix 4G General] Ciloteille:
I love when I swap units out and get a updated warranty to follow.

I do find that they actually met up at a location is weird. Maybe they are stepping up customer support when a consistently recurring problem hits their door. Maybe this is how bootloaders are unlocked? :P
[Atrix 4G General] DarkRyoushii:
still got motoblur? checked for available updates? the usual is this a rare handset test?
[Atrix 4G General] Ciloteille:
I would also like to know if their personal se is loaded. Or did they factory wipe for consumer usage.
[Atrix 4G General] EclipseX:
**** that, i'm from portugal....how I change phone....**** motorola!
[Atrix 4G General] tripleh3lix:
LMFAO!! Wth?
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
LMAO........That just made my day!

Sent from WinBorg 4G via XDA Premium
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
it's not their fault you bought your phone in another country =P
[Atrix 4G General] tjp888:
I wonder how prevalent this issue is? I have purchased 3 Atrix phones from AT&T for work and none of them have had this issue. Calls with them were very clear.
[Atrix 4G General] roscoejackson:
it's one of the most viewed/commented topics on the Moto Support forum:

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45510?tstart=0

I literally had 5 different handsets plagued by crappy voice quality. I was constantly asked to repeat myself because the other party could not understand me. This new handset sounds much, much better, and it's no placebo effect.

I'm happy to see Moto take a hands-on approach and fix this for me.. As for the other hundred people or so who complained on the forumm... like the kitty guy from Portugal (by the way, that **** cracked me up hard).. I don't blame him, though. Voice quality on my old sets were ****.
[Atrix 4G General] ChongoDroid:
Their service center was crazy fast. 2 days and they sent it back via purolator.

That sounds like they went above and beyond for you. That is definitely good news!
[Atrix 4G General] ceo.mtcl:
I love the voice quality also. No issues.
[Atrix 4G General] wirednix:
OP, I am glad you got your voice quality issues corrected. I had voice quality issues on my previous to Atrix. Finally, after getting the third Atrix from a different Costco, the problem was gone. I made some recordings of the voice proble. I might post them later so everyone can know what we're talking about. Also, I had a bad led flash problem, where the LED (left one) would not stay on for longer than 20 secs. That's gone as well on this third unit. Now, if only all this other crap was gone as well.... lol
[Atrix 4G General] k4zyn:
I bought mine from ATT less than one month ago and I am also having call quality issues and also one of the LEDs flicker or don't come on, do I just take it back to ATT and they will replace it or what do I have to do :confused:
[Atrix 4G General] wirednix:
Yes, take it back to ATT. I believe its still within your return period to just exchange for a new one. If not, I think they may send it to Moto for repair. Tell them the voice call issue and the LED problem are well documented problems by Motorola and that you want a brand new device.

For the LED flashing problem, don't mention any flashlight apps. That's how I discovered my flashing problem, but once I mentioned that I was having problems with a flashlight app, the CS rep at the ATT store immediately said" OH. Sorry. We can't give support to third party apps." So instead of the flashlight app, pull up your camcorder app and turn the light on.

Hope you get your phone issues resolved!
[Atrix 4G General] sdlopez83:
I got my 3rd exchange yesterday. And I still have the garbled voice problem. Im definitely contacting moto. Thanks for the heads up.
[Atrix 4G General] Ririal:
Anyone who ever feels they need to badmouth Motorola needs to read this. They have always been customer-oriented and extremely helpful to anyone who buys their products (at least, in my limited experience anyway).
[Atrix 4G General] shadowscreation:
yes that exactly what's gonna happen contact support say I've been threw five atrixs. And none of them had an unlocked bootloader I would like one with an unlocked bootloader please... I can see it now lol
[Atrix 4G General] wirednix:
I believe this is an isolated response to a complaint on the forum. Since I've read the Motorola forum's manager, Mark, complaining on the number of people that don't want to send them their defective unit, my guess is that they only personally replaced the OP's Atrix because they needed it to debug it.

Even if it wasn't an isolated incident, and Motorola responded to everyone with similar willingness, it by no means negates the fact that an end user should not have to go through 5 different phones. There are too many hardware issues with this phone that are widespread in nature.

While I won't say "OMG. FUUUU MOTO! I'M NEVER BUYING MOTO AGAIN!", which would be unrealistic, having had so many hardware related issues with the Atrix will make me more cautious about buying another Motorola mobile phone in the future.
[Galaxy 3 General] rdass3646:
I last night tried the custom dialer tab and replaced it with the original using root explorer.I dont know what I did wrong but now the dialer does not show up in the dockbar at the bottom of touchwiz ui.can someone assist me by providing the original dialer tab .I would be very greatful
[Galaxy 3 General] PolarSoul:
Hi!

I had the same problem with Contacts when I changed theme. I did have it in the App Drawer though and it worked from there. Do you have your Dialer in your App Drawer? If so, then you should go to wipe TWLaunchers data from the app management. It did the trick for me and put all the tabs back to the launcher.
[Galaxy 3 General] rdass3646:
Hi dear

I really appreciate your precious suggestion but I dont see the dialer app in the app drawer.could you provide your dialer tab activity from system/app.i think it would solve my problem
[Galaxy 3 General] Humpie:
Long tab on your homescreen select "sneltoetsen" (don't know in english) and select aplications. Select then "phone" or "dial" or sonething. You have it on your homescreen now, maby you can drag it to the bar?
[myTouch 4G General] :
i've been trying to delete system apps. astro dont work , root explorer dont work .

terminal

SU

mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblk3 /system

rm /system/app/Gmail.apk

didnt work this command is supposed to remove Read only permission and when i ran the rm string it STILL said denied file is read only...

is there any app that can change permissions? i just wanna get rid of the junk
[myTouch 4G General] TeeJay3800:
Did you try changing file permissions to R/W in Root Explorer? Shouldn't be any problem removing any app that way.
[myTouch 4G General] :
says permissions cannot be changed cause file is read only coool i mounted r/w with root explorer n it worked weeeeeee
[myTouch 4G General] aeroxy:
I don't think you rooted it correctly. Try again.
[myTouch 4G General] TeeJay3800:
Glad I could help.
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
I'm glad TJ got you up and running however the reason you couldn't delete the Gmail.apk is pretty simple. IT's not stored in the /system/app on some ROMs.

View attachment 574275

it's store under /data/app.

View attachment 574280

and it's store under as a different file.

com.google.android.gm-1.apk

.

So your correct method wold of been.

mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblk3 /system
rm /data/app/com.google.android.gm-1.apk
[myTouch 4G General] h22aboi:
Sorry to thread jack....but

mount -o remount,rw -t ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p25 /system

Ive used the above command to access r/w, but what is the difference between the commands?
[myTouch 4G General] kmdub:
The difference is that your command is right and the other one is wrong; mtd* does not exist on the MT4G, at least not in any ROM I have used. It does not use the memory technology device subsystem.
[myTouch 4G General] :
me too ... i didnt really like this phone at first ... coming from a HTC HD2 leo <which i loved> but i kept breaking them.... but this phone is pretty cool too and now running SPB mobile shell on it really sets it apart ...so yea good phone so far but still dont like a couple features like the power button interfering with horizontal texting but otherwise great phone. thanks again
[myTouch 4G General] kmdub:
Yeah, that's one of my gripes with this phone also. Not specifically for texting, just that the power button is poorly placed in general and not very well designed. Don't really know where else they could have put it, but they could have made it provide more feedback.
[myTouch 4G General] :
dont mean to go off topic but im getting no response in other thread... im trying to install cm7 from stock blue text rec from the recoveries_to_rommanager.zip on my sd and the stock recovery only gives option to install update.zip and when i rename rec2rom zip to update.zip it says signature verification failed and wont install ...any ideas??
[myTouch 4G General] dementor123:
Its a design flaw, they shouldn't have raised the button. I would suggest get a gel skin and cut off the power button part of the skin. Only prob with gel skin is it catches a lot of dirt.
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
I use the first one all of the time on all of my androids.

-Cliq

-Magic

-Nook Color

-Pandigital Tablet

-two glaciers.

it works perfectly.
[myTouch 4G General] kmdub:
Are you sure you have S=OFF and are rooted properly?

Ok, but have you used it successfully on THIS Android? Some phones use the MTD subsystem, some don't. Do the MTD devices exist on your MT4G?
[myTouch 4G General] csdalporto:
If you can't delete system apps with root explorer, your not rooted properly, make sure you have S off and do the gfree methods search the dev forum
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
Question:

Did you really just ask that?

Seriously. Or do you just know nothing about your device.

The MyTouch 4G = MyTouchHD = HTC Glacier.

I'm going to stop here before i get in trouble
[myTouch 4G General] kmdub:
Ok, I appreciate your kindness. However, I would kindly appreciate it if you answer the question of whether your Glacier (or whatever you want to call it) has those mtd* devices? Would you mind checking now for me? And, if it does, kindly provide us with the ROM information.