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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Yea, since it has not been an issue for me since I'm not upset about that.

But this issue of carriers hiding the wireless tether app... Wireless carriers saying they give us a certain amount of bandwidth per month. Yet it must only be used in a certain way. Simply is uncool. Very anti-consumer, just ridiculous.

What if my local water company said I could shower with the water, but could not wash a pet unless I pay an additional pet cleaning fee? Nevermind my usage levels, just trying to turn my personal actions into a new profit center.

It just seems like an unhealthy form of collusion to me, all the these mobile carriers all at once deciding to block certain apps and control usage.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SWGlickman:
You "heard" they were doing this? You didn't "read" it when you activated your phone? You opted in to "tracking" when you set up your phone. If you don't like it go to settings>>privacy>>use my location (at the very top) and un-check the little box.

It's legal because they disclosed it to you and you opted in.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Welcome to XDA. Interesting you would go there for your first post ever on XDA.

And playing off their use of the word "heard", come on, are you starting here for the sake of argument?

The short message of "Allow Google's location service to collect anonymous location data. Collection will occur even when no applications are running." Fails to convey the full depth and frequency of what occurs. Perhaps if they had included a web page with details like those in the WSJ article, it would have been far less of a surprise to find out all that is really taking place. Even the researchers who discovered the details saw the click-thru agreement, but nobody really knew all that was taking place.

They also don't tell you that agreeing to it slows GPS lock times overall and consumes considerably more battery life.

If you read further in this thread, you'd see your mention of a remedy has been repeated several times over. But actually, that might not fully end the matter of location data without consent, given some versions of Maps run non-stop. But further information about that and how to resolve it is in earlier comments as well.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnalogXDA:
I use Sprint, a CDMA carrier. If what you say is true, there's no reason why I should have to use Google services or agree to Google's terms in order to use AGPS. Yet on my HTC EVO Shift 4G, I'm not able to configure my phone to use anything other than pure GPS satellite mode without agreeing to let the Goog collect and send my location data in the background.

As I pointed out in my first post, on my Palm Pre smartphone and my Motorola Renegade V950 dumbphone, as well as the dumbphone I used before the Motorola, I was able to use AGPS through Sprint without involving Google at all. This is no longer the case--with "use wireless networks" disabled on the EVO Shift, it is nearly impossible to get even a rough fix indoors because the phone can't see the satellites and it apparently isn't allowed to see or use info from Sprint's network (whereas, I'll reiterate, my last three phones were). Apps just sit there waiting for a location--any location--and then complain or fail when nothing ever comes.

Surely there's something wrong with this picture.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] highlandsun:
Wtf. It's absolutely true, why the hell would I make this **** up?

Sounds like you should complain to Sprint then. Every carrier customizes Android for their own network on the devices they sell. A default Android build uses supl.google.com as its AGPS server; it's up to each carrier to change that if they want to. My phones use lbs.geo.t-mobile.com, that's how T-Mobile configures them.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnalogXDA:
Nobody said you made anything up. Sometimes people are honestly misinformed, though. Don't have a stroke. I'm sure you're right about this, but so far, all I have is your word on it.

So, how do non-Android GSM devices use AGPS if there is no public database for them? Like, say, if an E-911 call is made?

Heh...yeah, I'm sure that will get me pretty far. On your T-Mobile device with the different SUPL setting, do you still have to agree to the background collection to use AGPS?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calopez_22:
same here still working for me hopefully sprint doesnt do anything about it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] highlandsun:
I've been writing radio drivers for Android for the past 2 months. I know exactly what the cell towers are reporting. You're welcome to check my code if you like.

https://gitorious.org/~hyc/xdandroid/hycs-hardware_xdandroid-ril

You're confused. AGPS is not the same as network-based location services. AGPS using SUPL downloads satellite ephemeris data to your phone so that the GPS chip can locate and lock onto satellites faster. It has nothing to do with what's being discussed here and has no relation to the background data collection.

E-911 calls on GSM don't need a database because your network operator knows your tower's coordinates. Note I said there are no *public* databases of this info. Obviously every network operator knows where their towers are deployed. They simply don't share that info with *you*.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walord:
Still available with Sprint phones but who downloads it from the market anyway?

Also, it requires root which means the people who are most likely to be looking for it will know how to get it regardless of what the carriers do. It's a crappy thing they're doing but it's not going to change anything.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T-Macgnolia:
Dang I meant to post this the other day in this thread but forgot to. Opps

It looks like Microsoft is doing the same thing as Apply and Google. Ha now we know for sure it is mega money involved on this epic consumer abuse system. I am still waiting on my royalties check. LOL!

Anyway I found this in the HD2 Windows Phone 7 forums, it was originally posted by XDA senior member Samsamuel in the "Microsoft knows where you are....."
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I'm finding although there are periodic (typically not) issues with accessing Market with access disabled for "Network Location, Google Calendar Sync, Google Services Framework, Google Contacts Sync" via DroidWall. I can NEVER BUY ANY paid apps unless I open up access for "Network Location, Google Calendar Sync, Google Services Framework, Google Contacts Sync".

I'm not sure if that's so they can present the correct fee, possible taxes or just because there is the carrier integrated payment option. Or maybe they just want more data about paying customers...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Also, the purchase won't FINALIZE till I open up access to "Kernel". So for purchasing from Market, both "Network Location, Google Calendar Sync, Google Services Framework, Google Contacts Sync" and "Kernel" require access.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
seems like it might be restricted to USA carriers only

i have my SIM card on, and i was able to install wireless tether direct from Market via 3G without any problem
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdb78:
I found another website telling the same. Every provider but Sprint in the U.S. asked Google to block the app for the customers to force them to use the more expensive tether plan.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
wow, even google confirmed it

that's very dirty of the USA cell operators
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Sprint is probably upset the other carriers didn't let them join in. Sprint was one of the first to hack tethering apps that came with Palm OS and WM devices, to try and press people to use their paid tethering service.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adeyo:
which droidwall

I found two DroidWall apk's in the market, by two different individuals:

DroidWall -- OLD by Jesse C

DroidWall -Android by Rodrigo ZR

Anyone know which one the OP is speaking of that we should download??

Thanks in advance!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Well you certainly don't want the "OLD" one :) . If you read the description in Android Market for the "OLD" one you'll see why.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdb78:
Or you can read all about DroidWall here on XDA...;)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadowdancer123:
Go to:

Settings -> Location & Security -> Uncheck: Use Wireless Networks.

Now it won't upload anon data.

You agree to this recording when you check it, it asks nicely.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I ask nicely, please read all the other comments in this thread before replying :) .
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I think I've found an app that will help us who wanted to be able to keep Maps shut down until WE want to actually use it. I picked up an app named "Autostarts" off Android Market. Cost just $1.00, and well worth it. It can disable any app from autostarting behind your back. You must be careful when using it though, so you don't disable autostart for something your device really needs.

But I've defrosted apps like Maps and simply used Autostarts to stop them from ever autostarting. Now, Maps will only start when I START IT and then when I'm done with it I can simply kill its task with a Task Killer.

:)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joe-retired:
I think this topic deserves a "stickie" and maybe should be the impetus for XDA starting a security forum.

Darnell, since you have shut down many of the "invisible" data services did you notice a drop in your recorded usage (that is to ask, "are we being charged to provide google with marketing information :eek:)?

Besides having clicked the thank you button in one of your other post, I want to say thank you for starting this topic.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Well thank you also.

Yes, I am seeing less data usage. Kind of funny we flip the bill for Google to gather information on us and our surroundings :D .

I'm seeing less data usage, better battery life and my GPS lock times are actually better now than when I used Google's additional assistance.

Since using AutoStarts to stop some apps from even starting when I reboot, my device now powers up way faster than before too.

Everything is better for me since I started doing this. I should thank Google for ticking me off enough to start doing it :p .
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quail:
would you like to enlighten some of us to what apps you stopped from starting at boot time with 'AutoStarts' and to what headings they under. I have noted a few 'Google Services Framework' etc in 'After Startup' etc
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
You never want to stop anything with "acore" or "framework" in the name. Sorry I did not link it earlier, but this post is what got me into using the Autostarts app. (But you may see one app with "Framework" in the name already crossed out in the "During Startup" category, just leave it alone.) I still use a task killer, probably to a greater degree than the person who posted that comment, but really I use task killer now more to end apps after I've used them if I want them dead, not so much to shut down apps after booting my device as I once did.

Honestly, it took me a long time to go through all the categories in Autostarts and find apps I did not want starting. I stopped the following apps every place I saw them, except the "Accounts changed" category:

Gmail

Maps

Email

I use K-9 Mail. That little bugger changes it's setting for "Connectivity Changed" every time it is manually started. So although I've also disabled K-9 mail everywhere, I must continually disable it's setting in the "Connectivity changed" category after using it.

I have disabled the following apps everywhere except the "Application installed" category. I just fear they might actually be used for something legitimate when new apps are installed.

Google Voice

Google Partner Setup

I've left everything in the "Accounts changed" category enabled.

I disabled Market in most categories I saw it in except categories that involve apps being installed or removed and of course the "Accounts changed" category.

I disabled many 3rd party apps that I knew I don't like starting up for any category I saw them in, I mean you have to determine for the 3rd party apps you use based on how you use them.

Some people disable apps in the "After Startup" category such as Messaging and Bluetooth Share, but I don't since I use them right away. Some who don't may want to disable those.

Most of it is a call based on your personal usage. I would not recommend disabling DroidWall though.

After you make your settings changes in Autostarts, do a reboot. I found some apps didn't stop autostarting till after I rebooted the device.

Like with DroidWall, Autostarts is an app that may take some trial and error to get customized to your preference. But just press to open a category and then press and release on an app name for the pop-up menu to appear, that will give you the option to disable it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UGPhilosopher:
great info darnell, thanks for keeping everyone informed and keeping the thread on point. The "how could you not know this" and "whatever I don't care" is annoying and really clutters up the thread with useless information. I usually come here to get/share info so good job on the info and thanks.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jiggity Janx:
Most of this is a little too conspiracy theory for me but you may want to check out Permissions Denied in the Market. Works well to restrict certain app permissions for those that don't have cyanogenmod (where it's baked in).

*Didn't read the whole thread so apologies if this was recommended earlier
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] give:
Great thread.

As well as the "Use Wireless Networks" option there is another location option [that I don't think was mentioned here before] you should consider disabling if privacy is an issue for you. Its accessible in Google Search app but it affects *other Google services* too. Its easily missed

Open up the Google Search app and go to /Search Settings/Web Google Search/ and deselect Use My Location "Use my Location for Google search results and other Google services."
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] __B__:
Do this problem happens even if I install Cyanogenmod without Google Apps? (No market, no gmail, no maps, etc)?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] generalist:
Hello. By following the measures given in this thread, I previously changed my wifi and 4G/3G statuses from green to white. Then, after flashing a new ROM today, the wifi one regressed to green again.

After triple checking everything, I found that Market had defaulted to auto-updates again. I did the following:

1. in Market, I UN-checked Settings>Auto-update apps

2. froze the app Market Updater

3. in DroidWall, removed Market Updater from the white list.

Violà! My wifi status was white again. So: Market Updater also phones home.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] generalist:
Today, I suddenly noticed my 3G/4G was connected to Google's servers, without me enabling that connection. I had just made a change in my phone's software, but quickly proved that it did not enable the connection to Google.

After frantically seeking the culprit, I finally found it: Market Feedback Agent (GoogleFeedback.apk, I believe.)

In DroidWall, I removed it from the white list, stopped then restarted 3G/4G, and my 3G/4G status was white again. I tried Market (Google Play now) and it seemed to work fine.

So: apparently as of changes today in Google's transition from Google Market to Google Play, Market Feedback Agent also phones home.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zergborghybrid:
Blocked everything. Still getting update notifications.

Darnell,

I found something interesting:

I have followed your instructions. I also ran Quail's script to remove all the unnecessary gapps.

I use Droidwall to allow only Firefox, K9, and other none Google-Apps internet access. And still,

I am still getting Notifications that there are Updates available.

Is it possible that Droidwall is leaking ?

BTW, I am on CM7.2.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DualJoe:
DroidWall is kinda unreliable on some devices since it is setting iptables with an app. There is no .sh script in init.d or something.

Because of that some low-memory devices kick droidwall out of the memory before it can set any iptables at all. Also, when CM9 boots up with WiFi enabled its faster than DroidWall startup so some apps can phone home before DroidWall kicks in.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Compusearch:
This has been the most frustrating experience I have ever had with an Android device...

I was one of the lucky few who got one for $280 on Amazon and apparently it had the newest build on it that has the boot loader locked down.

I went through all the stickied guides, warnings about the locked bootloader and NVFlash. Needless to say, I have done my homework.

I tried in vain to install any ROM, but the only one that would install is TnT, which to the dev's credit it was a huge step above the stock ROM, but *shudder* that interface...

Long story, short; I managed to install CWM, fail at any install of a ROM (3 bird screen) and and ended up flashing with NVFlash to 1.0-2638, tried to flash ROM's again and again only to reflash 2638. It has been a LOOOOONG day with this thing.

I am at my wit's end.

Here is what I have 1.0-2638, no CWM and a bottle of Patron Silver...

How do I get a ROM on here...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flossay101:
Hey

Thats sucks, and i feel for you. I am also someone that just purchased the gtablet from amazon, and have been reading the forums throughly and it clearly says to downgrade before attempting to load cwm and flashing a given rom. So i guess my question is, did you downgrade before flashing?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigacgomez:
@Compusearch... welcome to the G-Tablet world...

before you go ahead... look though the forum and FAQ posts...

do you have a particular ROM in mind??

keep these in mind...

if you install the latest 1.2-4329 ROM, you cannot install a custom kernel... so most custom ROMs like CM will not work... there are three 1.2 based custom ROM available (can't post the links so google Century Eyes or Mountain Laurel)

if you install a Gingerbread ROM like CM7, hardware video decoding will not work...

a start up from where you are... get the 1.1-3588 ROM from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=842000 and flash it with the stock recovery... it's the best base ROM... then you can flash CWM 0.8 bekit if you want to install a 1.1-based ROM (most ROMs available here) or move to 1.2-4329 and install a 1.2 based custom ROM...

you can easily nvFlash back to the 1.1 based ROM even after you move to a 1.2 based ROM...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Compusearch:
Trust me, I went through all the FAQ's and Guides here. I even found a bunch of youtube video's showing how to do the installs of CWM and ROM's. I can follow along, but the end result is always the 3-bird boot screen.

I am seasoned veteran of installing ROM's: Droid, DroidX, Nook (too easy), Galaxy Tab, Captivate, HD2 (winmo7, android), MyTouch3G, and HTC Inspire. I know the procedures and concepts very well.

I think the variable that is screwing me over, is what was initially installed on my gTablet when I got it this week.

I assumed that I had 4349 as there was no available update when I checked for it over wifi. With that in mind, I did downgrade it to 3588 per:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1036956

Even with that, I could not install any ROM's other than TnT Lite.

I am wondering of the latest batches of gTablets are locked down beyond what the newest update 4349+ already does.

Technically as it stands, I have 1.0-2638 installed and that should have the unlocked bootloader and I should be able to follow this guide:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865245

I would assume that logically, if I have an earlier version of the original TnT, that I can install CWM and then any gTablet ROM.

Am I wrong to assume this?

[edit] I want to be able to use the Vegan Beta 5.1.1 ROM
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebadfrog:
Stupid question but have you actually tried to install a rom after nflashing. The problem you were having before was the partition structure was wrong and nvflash should have fixed that. You can also extract "recovery.img" from bekit 0.8 zip file......

Copy recovery.img to your nvflash directory

Rename part9.img to part9.bak

Rename recovery.img to part9.img

Run nvflash again

This will flash cwm for you. Then try clearing data and flashing anather rom
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigacgomez:
nvFlashing back to the 1.0 release will definitely downgrade your bootloader... and then I recommend upgrading to the 1.1 branch (3588)... install CWM using the stock recovery or using nvFlash (as @thebadfrog said)...

Format all partitions using CWM... and even try re-partitioning the internal SD card using CWM to 2048MB ext, 0MB swap... and then install a custom ROM
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Compusearch:
Trying that now:

1. upgrade to 3588 -Done!

2. install CWM -Done!

3. re-partition SD 2048/0M -Done!

Wipe Dalvik Cache -Done, but with error "Can't Mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p2"

Wipe data/factory reset -Done!

Wipe cache partition -Done!

Format SYSTEM -Done!

Format DATA -Done!

Format CACHE -Done!

Format SDCARD -Done!

4. Custom ROM - VEGAn-TAB GingerEdition STABLE RC1 - INSTALLED!!!

Thanks, Craig and Frog for the tips. This really should be added to the current FAQ.

Sadly, now that I can actually use the tablet, I am HATING the view angles on it.

For a company that prodomiately makes nice monitors and LCD's this is some BS right here.

I know that ViewSonic slapped their name on it, but seriously, who over at VS said that the screen was great and ready for production?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigacgomez:
Yeah, the viewing angles aren't great... but it's perfect for a traveller like me... I can sit on the plane and use my tablet without anyone seeing what I'm doing!!

And ignore the dalvik wipe error!!
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mantara:
I wish more people would look at repartitioning as a "step" during the flashing process as apposed to a maybe. All the roms and recovery images are built off of one specific partition set and it is in my book a necessary step to make sure we are all on the same page.

Glad you got it sorted :-)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebadfrog:
We have debated that for several months since discovering the different partitioning. The only real way to "brick" for real is through a bad nvflash therefore it makes since to skip that step until necessary.

I think all roms should be nvflashed anyway so you have to understand and be able to use the recovery tools to even modify your tab. But thats my own opinion :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] los0325:
N e one know of a stable wifi app for rooted g2x?
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Deleted member 2488575:
Do the headphones that come with the iphone4 work on the Motorola Atrix?

Do the buttons work? Does the mic work?

thanks.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] kaka1:
Yeah Headphones are working but call control/volume button is not working for me.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] chromedome00:
some of the function is software dependent - other music players allow for more functions.

There are only 4 wires on the headphones - ground, left spkr, right spkr, mic. So any buttons need to interrupt current or change resistance/impedence and software has to interpret this.