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[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PixoNova:
Sorry but the argument still applies, since some of us are Americans here, you know.

Swyped from my Motorola Atrix 4g using XDA Premium App
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rex-tc:
What do you mean you don't see ANY advantage. There is a whole thread here stating the advantages.

1. Truly optimized games for Tegra you won't see or be able to play on Mali GPU.

2. Higher res screen higher PPI.

3. Better built hardware

4. Webtop

5. True HDMI port that doesn't need battery.

6. Finger print scanner

7. Benchmarks on par or better. HTC and Samsung had to overclock 200mhz just to get the benchmarks on par with Tegra 2.

8. Tegra was the default platform for Honeycomb so later versions of the OS will run better on Atrix.

9. Docks, Car, Laptop, Webtop, Station

10. Battery life

11. More tegra devices which will equal better dev support later on down the road (optimus 2x, atrix, xoom, droid 2, G-slate, Bionic, Notion ink, Galaxy SII, Asus Transformer, HTC scribe, Dell Streak 7, ect) , Exynos only on Galaxy SII.

12. Fragmentation of having three versions based on Region. Supler LCD/SAMOLED, Tegra 2, and Exynos versions. Which means developers will have hard time narrowing down optimized versions of apps/games/drivers for the device.

13. When Quad-core tegra comes out this fall games will transfer over.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peacekeeper05:
Galaxy S2. :)

But i still find tegra more appealing than exynos.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjayflo:
Atrix no question....once Atrix recieves it GB update, it'll be much smoother and faster than it already is. People are raving over its 3000 benchmark score....but I put up 2950 a number of times with Froyo

Motola Atrix

Samsung Captivate - CM7 1.2 ghz

Motorola Backflip - CM6
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vinay427:
For me this argument comes down to the locked bootloader on the Atrix. I would prefer the Tegra 2 and real HDMI port, along with the better battery life. However, that S-AMOLED is truly gorgeous! In the end, I really love modding my devices, so the locked bootloader is the killer for me. I'll be watching the bootloader news closely and if nothing has happened soon, I'll sell my Atrix for enough or almost enough to buy a SGS2.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nexus666:
Had a N1, got an Atrix 3 weeks ago. Now I'm thinking about selling the Atrix, using my N1 until the Galaxy S2 comes out in a couple of month.

The screen of the Atrix may have a bigger resolution but the colors are all washed out, the text flickers when you scroll, which makes it unreadable until you stop... Power button is hard to reach AND click, so much so that i'm using the volume buttons to wake it up.

I'm really not impressed. Oh yeah, and the bootloader is locked!

Galaxy S2 all the way
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blunted09:
cant really say i would trust samsung. The only complaint against the atrix is the bootloader and camera. I had an original droid and its the exact same camera :(
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eatkabab:
If you can wait, you'll have a quad core phone by the end of the year (and it won't be from Apple).

If you cant, Galaxy S II. I only got the Atrix because I scummed ATT into giving me an upgrade from my captivate and it was the only option (the captivate has the ****tiest battery life of any phone I've ever had).
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PixoNova:
I don't have the flickering text problem. And just how fast are you scrolling to not read it?

Fingerprint reader is your opinion. I love it the most out of all my phones. If the sgs2 has the power button like the captivate, I won't buy it. Can't stand having it there.

Swyped from my Motorola Atrix 4g using XDA Premium App
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vapotrini:
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[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Made2Last:
I say it depends. If you're buying the at&t version (captivate 2?) Maybe it's more of a toss up because at&t is going to put the same bloatware on both and not allow 3rd party apps the same. qHD screen is a plus.

And you don't even know for sure if the version available to us will have Exynos rather than Tegra. I know the rumor is we would get Exynos first most likely, but you never know.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phytrax:
The screen flicker is a little annoying but I like the power button on the Atrix. Could be just a little easier to push though, less pressure required.

The SGS2 MUST have good battery life though. One review I've read is encouraging as far as battery goes. GPS is so fast and accurate on Atrix, that will affect my decision too, as I use GPS at least a few times per week.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ddust14:
Im sure the battery life will be fine.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KingKuba13:
is the samsung going to have ddr2 ram or not?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sagerox:
Personally being able to whip out my hdmi cable and hook up to a projector or any flat screen and use the webtop mod is the deal breaker for me. It's saved my ass at work several times with presentations.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phytrax:
Well the review on Slashgear.com pretty much made up my mind. They said battery life is fantastic and so is GPS performance. I'll miss the qHD resolution but sounds like a great trade off for the sAMOLED+ and 4.3", unlocked bootloader, etc.

HDMI will also be supported once you buy an adapter.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Exador:
Docks? I don't need no stinkin docks!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cristianomc:
I saw some videos and found Atrix faster than SGSII, at least it seems to. What I don´t like on Atrix is its Moto**** but Touch**** from SGSII is also crap (seems iPhone) but the screen from SGSII is amazing!

HTC Sensation seems good only for Sense 3, but its harware don´t have anything special and HTC is known by its poor audio and signal reception quality devices (my Desire is one of them!).
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cristianomc:
A Nexus S3 would be great (quadcore, SAMOLED, fingerprint, 3.8 screen)!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wirednix:
I'll make my own list:

1. Horrible camera (and no 1080P recording)

2. Locked bootloader

3. Back cover seems weak (squeaks) and gives the overall build quality of the phone a nose dive

4. Power button a hassle to reach and fingerprint unlocking becomes more of a hassle than a convenience

5. Worst call quality of any phone I've ever had (Thousands of posts on the Motorola forums)

6. Screen unresponsive after touching same spot for 10+ secs (Kind of makes playing games a hassle to say the least)

7. Awful quality control from Motorola (I went through 3 phones to find one that worked OK)

8. Software.. From Motoblur to Android 2.2.2. Seems to be outdated technology for a new phone.

9. Screen is not as impressive as other phones. Colors are off and dull (I'm not saying they should be over saturated. I've compared an Evo and my Atrix against my Spyder3 calibrated monitor and the Atrix simply falls behind)

-This list doesn't even include the problems I had that were specific to my experience (ie. faulty hardware), but yet were still widespread enough that I found several people with the same problems.

I won't even go into a list of how the SGSII SEEMS (read again, SEEMS) to be better.

Having said all that, the Atrix is the best smartphone I've used, but so far, it seems that I will be selling it once the SGSII comes along. (Whenever that is...)

If you're 100% happy with the phone, more power to you. I wish I could say the same. In the end, a lot of it is personal preference.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcarpenter85:
I'd go for the Galaxy S II. Even though it is lacking HDMI, qHD, and Fingerprint scanning it is still the best android phone to date. The screen is gorgeous even at WVGA and it FLIES. The 1.2ghz dualcore chip, while not tegra 2, is a speed demon. Also, it is running touchwiz and gingerbread. I am not a huge fan of the custom vendor launchers but Touchwiz is the best of the bunch IMO. Lastly, the 8MP camera appears to take much better pictures than the atrix according to the reviews I've seen and the phone does 1080p/30 video recording and playback. Oh, and it will playback h.264 files encoded with the 'high' preset unlike the Atrix which is crippled in that regard.

Simply put, get the Galaxy S II.

(I am an Atrix owner by the way)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chromedome00:
I doubt that anyone here that owned a Galaxy S line will buy another. 9 months after launch, Samsung never fixed GPS or filesystem - so once you do find a critical bug on the Galaxy S II don't expect it to be fixed.

At least Moto has addressed the critical bugs in the latest update.

The Atrix is not perfect, but Moto goes quite a bit further in customer support and responsiveness then Samsung ever did.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ll_l_x_l_ll:
as if moto has better software support with its 2.2 in Feb atrix while nexus S was released in Dec with 2.3 and YET there is no 2.3 for atrix....

to the OP, you should pick galaxy S2 without thinking twice.

the only advantage for atrix is Tegra 2 . while its not as powerful as the galaxy s2 oxynos, there are specific games for it from tegra zone that takes advantage of the chip while nothing on oxynos.

aside from that, dont even bother about atrix. high resolution my butt. you still can see the pixels in atrix. and the colors on galaxy S2 is out of this world
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PixoNova:
Telling someone to pick up a device without thinking is kind of dumb, don't you think?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donniesd:
I see what you did there :p:p
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ccrows:
Does the GS2 finally have a Notification LED, or are they expecting us to put in the work in for that too?...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] creativedevil:
Based on reviews by some forums, SGSII doesn't have a Notification LED.

Besides, if people are comparing the phones like Atrix vs SGSII vs HTC Sensation, I say, the current situation leans towards Atrix.

Yes there is a problem somewhere in Motorola's mind... They want to win the world with a Locked Bootloader... But hey, who says there is no Dev Support for it? If you want everything in your favour, these 3 beasts are not even in the race, IMO I would just go with Samsung Nexus S. BTW, Samsung has been using the same build material for all of their devices lately, so I assume SGSII also has got the same plasticky build quality.

OH, if we are talking about the performance, SGSII and HTC Sensation are not even out yet. If you really want to compare Atrix with something, I would say do so with T-Mobile G2X. That's a beast all along.

No one have tried Samsung phone yet, we have read reviews and seen videos, 4.3" screen is SAMOLED, brightest ever, with vivid colours and etc., but still have the same old 800*480 resolution vs. qHD on Atrix, colours are not washed out on atrix, if you put your screen brightness above 50%, you will realize it looks amazing.

Here is my breakdown:

- MotoBlur and TouchWiz both sucks. Pick your favourite :-)

- Backcover is plastic but it doesn't squeak... it really feels solid in your hand

- Power Button is in a better position compared to where it was placed on Galaxy phones... Plus it has got a FingerPrint reader... Man, believe it or not, it really feels a great security enhancement feature...

- Call quality so far has been great... Yes there are some threads about problems, but to me its been flawless. It has got a problem with VOIP but its a software issue not hardware, I guess Motorola is aware of this issue and should fix it with its next software release.

- Screen responsiveness is never a problem, always works, no lag.

Etc etc etc...

Again, all of what I mentioned is my personal opinion, but man, you don't compare a phone which is available for you to buy with something they are coming up in future...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjayflo:
ATRIX over S2.....just wait till we get Gingerbread on our ATRIX :D
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberPunk7t9:
The first Samsung Galaxy was a very successful device. On that base we're all confident that it's successor is going to be even better, Making it a premium high-end world-class Android phone. But it's not going to smoke the Atrix like some people are suggesting here.

Things we know for sure the SGS2 will edge the Atrix at:

-Better screen (even @ the lower resolution).

-Camera (based on those early reviews).

-Gyroscope sensor (some games can use it. but honestly the Android market still has a lot ahead to present a wider variety of high quality games).

Things we know for sure the Atrix will edge the SGS2 at:

-Larger battery life (1930mah vs 1650mah).

-HDMI output (Not just that or else it's comparable to many other phones, but the webtop mode over HDMI is the best feature I have ever used on a phone. You would pay a lot of money for a hot feature like that).

-Fingerprint scanner (this thing is not a mimic, it's very practical)

Most of the other things can be a personal preference.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dell2:
I absolutely loved my Atrix until yesterday. Engadget's review of the SGS 2 caused me to look at the glaring weaknesses of my Atrix. I've had this phone since launch day, and there is no way it deserves the same 9/10 rating as the Galaxy S2.

Everyone is praising Motorola for the 2 quick updates, but it angers me because I am a former Iphone user, and this is the same BS Apple does: send out small bug fixing updates that are really aimed at stopping the jailbreakers. 2.2.2?! Bullsh*t!!! Gingerbread flying out everywhere, and we get Froyo 2.2.2?!

Yes I know we have the webtop connector, BIG WHOOP I have a computer and I expect my dual core phone to be my mobile computer. I had a Samsung Captivate so I know about their slow update process, but my rooted and rommed Captivate made me return my Iphone 4 and the Nexus S.

The 2 incidents of bad publicity made Motorola issue statements about changing their locked bootloader policy, but their actions speak otherwise. Samsung is slow to update, but their unlocked bootloader allows you to keep up with Google's updates.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PixoNova:
Dell2, every company tries to stop rooting. Root methods such as rageagainstthecage exploit holes in the Android system, and that allows us to gain root. RATC is the same hole used by the DroidDream malware. So it's painfully obvious why updates close off root holes.

Also, I hardly see Gingerbread flying out everywhere. Just because you have it on your cappy, doesn't mean Sammy have released it. It's the work of devs, not your precious Samsung.

Hell, at least with Motorola we got our HSUPA update, as well as the 1.5.7 update which greatly improved my time with the device.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haloimplant:
I don't get the 'Samsung is slow to update', maybe they had a bad record before but they have been as quick as any other with the Galaxy S. The 2.3.3 update was pulled but they should still be able to beat HTC to a proper GB release (of 2.3.4?).

The unlocked bootloader doesn't really let you install the latest Google releases, I'm no expert but I think they don't have phone-specific driver and function/feature support. What it does let you do is bypass carrier delays. Samsung releases the ROMs (and source code for dev community) to the carriers and for unbranded phones months before AT&T and Bell are finally finished doing whatever the hell they do to them.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phytrax:
I have to say I turned up the brightness and my Atrix colors do look MUCH better. It seems the autobrightness needs to be adjusted. This was not an issue on my Captivate though.

I'm not sure what you mean by screen responsiveness but after 2 weeks of owning my Atrix it does hang up for 30 seconds sometimes, and when I'm running Pandora my keyboard barely works. I'm using Better Keyboard if that makes a difference. I'll have to do some experimenting.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lesonal:
Atrix!! We have a 8 core gpu!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phytrax:
This just isn't true. Yes, companies make it difficult to root. Would you want every idiot that buys your product calling because they bricked their phone? If I'm not mistaken, Samsung reps have stated that they will not lock down their phones like Motorola does. At the same time they make it so you have to do a fair amount of research to root and flash ROM's to your phone so that if nothing else, you will realize that you have done something to your phone that is beyond the responsibility of the manufacturer.

Motorola on the other hand has stated that they will continue to lock their bootloaders. Maybe they are just on a control trip, I dunno. It's like Ford making a car so that you can't open the hood.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trell959:
Sgs 2. Atrix is ****. Glad I traded it in for the inspire. And for all you guys who think the Atrix will receive gb soon are really dumb :P
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] falconeight:
The inspire is a great phone.....for all 3 hours until you have to charge it.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trell959:
Actually I can get a good 11 hrs until it dies. On cyanogenmod 7.0.2 I can get 14 hrs of life on a 1.9 overclock kernel.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lesonal:
Nice you have to mod your phone to make it half as good as ours lol foh!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trell959:
Half as good? Yeah because I really want an overheating, motoblured phone that can basically only be rooted...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h0ckey10:
Everyone keeps saying that Samsung is terrible for updates. They're actually one of the fastest internationally. The sgs got froyo in October and I think it has now been the only non nexus phone to officially be updated to gingerbread. It's the us carriers that suck and add their stuff in. And if u bought the sgs2 now ud have to get the international version. And no locked bootloaders is HUGE
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trell959:
Agreed. Samsung isn't slow. It's ATT, t mobile ect. Apparently it takes 3-4 months to "test"
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fsturbo15:
I can assure you his inspire with half the cpu cores and half the memory running cm7 is more snappy than any atrix, including those running one of the "themes" in the rom section.

Im sorry for myself and all other atrix adopters but moto and att butchered this one.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PixoNova:
Well, that should be obvious. A full blown rom should be able to beat out a regular theme.

Comparing apples to oranges. Compare stock and stock before you compare cm7 and a theme.

Also, we're stuck on 2.2, without overclocking. We can't take full advantage of our phone yet, so gtfo with that herp derp I haz overclocking which beatz your phone!1! Crap.

Swyped from my Motorola Atrix 4g using XDA Premium App
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wirednix:
If we are talking about which one is better atm, why would we compare stock to stock?

If he can install CM on his device and we can't, why not take that into consideration?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dell2:
I really don't care who was to blame, the fact of the matter is I bought a Captivate in July 2010 and it just recently got updated. BUT I learned a lot about flashing custom roms because Samsung doesn't lock its bootloader.

And yes I have flashed Gingerblur and Greyblur, but have you guys noticed how Motorola's updates are making it more complicated to flash these roms? I'm on stock 4_1.8.3 now because the custom roms can't change the actual performance of the phone because of the locked bootloader. I use SPB Shell so I'm not interested in the altered themes of Greyblur.

My main reason for changing to a Samsung GS2 is the Atrix doesn't use that 1 gigabyte of ram, half is for the lapdock. IMHO this is why the Atrix doesn't act like a dual core phone and the Galaxy S 2 does. My Atrix usually has 300 mb free which is okay for normal operation, but throw in 1080p video recording and the Galaxy S is going to win every time.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fsturbo15:
Its only unfair to you because the atrix can't be fully modded. If the atrix was unlocked im sure you and everyone here would be busy flashing.

Im comparing the maximum potential of one phone with the other and your bent out of shape because your device isn't tall enough to ride aka is locked down.

So stop making excuses for moto and either fight for an unlocked bootloader or switch companies unless your happy with a crippled motoblur device than by all means stick with it.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trell959:
Exactly.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trell959:
look at your android dev section and look at the inspires. So why even bother wasting time with Motorola? Or at least that's MY opinion. When I had the Atrix, and heard about the locked bootloader. I knew it was going to take a while before it becomes unlocked if of even does at all. As far as stock to stock, HTC sense>motoblur.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChongoDroid:
Who cares... If you like samsung how about you stay in the samsung section? I have faith that their is a future for the atrix and if you don't agree then go ahead and take it back.

Sent from my Motorola Olympus
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PixoNova:
Yes its unfair. Stop shoving words in my mouth. You act like a politician. You're saying omg my device is so much better than yours when your device as stock is complete crap.

I'm not making excuses for anyone, I'm just calling you out on your pathetic attempt at an argument.

Like I said, compare stock and stock and you'll see we destroy you in every way possible.

yeah, come at me bro.

Swyped from my Motorola Atrix 4g using XDA Premium App
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trell959:
Haha! You have motoblur! Stock to stock you CAN crush us in quadrant,but that's all. You guys have a fingerprint scanner that works like ****, the damn phone gets hot, I do like the fact that it has a ff camera but how often do you guys use it anyway?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trell959:
O and not to mention horrible animations when you swipe your finger on the readet!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pewpewbangbang:
SGS 2 wins.......engadget just reviewed it and it seems to be the best phone out ATM.

Gingerbread, Crazy thin, Super AMOLED plus is beautiful and better than qHD, touchwiz finally enhances performance rather than hinder, exynos is looking great with that mali GPU, camera is looking good, unlocked bootloader.......and the number 1.........its going to have a huge community just like the original Galaxy S.

Atrix has almost no community and i've seen many developers trade it up for the inspire or get rid of it........

Have the Captivate on CM7 2.3.4 (just updated today) and its great........but can't wait to get the SGS 2, its a complete makeover and easily the best handset out right now

Also, stock to stock??? Motoblur is crap and still a bit laggy despite the phone being dual-core from videos/reviews i've watched and read. The new touchwiz beats motoblur easily and gingerbread is amazing.........and as i said before, the Atrix has a tiny community so ur almost stuck to relying on AT&T for updates. People complained about the captivate and GPS, well atleast there were a ton of ROMS and fixes for it. Im sure the SGS 2 is gonna follow in the path of the original Galaxy S and have a huge community since its going to be widely available to almost every carrier and country
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Engadget also gave the Atrix a 9/10 and they gave that apple thing a 9/10.

I'm pretty sure the apple thing is no where near the Atrix or SGS II in terms of anything.