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[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
Sorry I'm not quite sure what you mean by the sense 3 asst.

Ok here's what I've done. Restored an old nand backup from lbc 0.5.4 (turns out I had one). Backed up the sms app with titanium. Restored a nand backup of the current rom. Deleted the broken sms app and restored the backed up version.

Result? No fix :( same thing happens. Force close everyone I receive a message with no notification.

So I'm thinking perhaps it isn't the app itself, but a supporting file that's corrupt.

I will continue to try several methods.

How is everyone's battery life? I still don't get how LBC is getting such amazing juice, I'm still getting drained. Is anyone using setcpu or no?

And yes I agree, something about LBC mod just screams "stability"... Hopefully we can all work together to rectify this pressing sms issue.
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
OK guys, I've officially tried everything. Every method suggested step by step. Nothing works :(

v0.6.0 is fine with the Sense 2.1 sms app, but as soon as I flash the Sense 3.0 sms app, it crashes. I import it from other ROMs through Titanium - still crashes the same. So I'm thinking maybe its not the app itself but something within the ROM itself is causing this.

If the app is set to 'show notification', it will cause the Messages app to crash and force close whenever I receive a txt. If I uncheck 'show notification', then its fine. So I have deducted that its a notification issue.

So I'm using SMS Popup as a substitute for the time being but I believe this still needs a fix.

Is this seriously only happening to me?
[HTC Desire S] zeekiz:
If I had the time I'd try and do this myself, but try downloading

http://android.saraev.ca/download/Sense3/Sense3_Mms-0.9.zip

Then delete the mms app you have installed currently, reboot your phone, wipe cache/dalvik cache, then push this one via adb
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
Cheers mate, I'll give it a spin once I get home tonight. Is there any difference between this and the LBC add on?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Give this a try - it certainly worked for me!

Sorry that was mean to say Sense 3 Add -on SMS application. :(

:D

As you still have a full Nandrond backup of LBC v0.5.4 then you could follow the my way of installing that I detailed within this thread and I have no problems with anything so far, SMS application works fine as do notifications. Give it a go and let me know how you get on? :confused:

Alternatively

If it doesn't work could always be something about your text messages themselves, so could try backing them up to SD, and then deleting them all and then seeing how the SMS application behaves?
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
Haha, yeah like I said I tried every suggested method including yours to no avail. Thanks anyway.

I think it might be the notification function within the SMS app itself that is going bonkers. When its switched off, it works as it should. Switched on will make it crash upon a received text. I've tested with my restored SMS's and completely empty. Same deal.

At the current moment I'm on 0.5.4 and downloading 0.6.0 directly from ROM Manager with the Sense 3 MMS add on checked.

But holy **** its taking its sweetass time this one.

If this doesn't work then I'm going to throw in the towel.. and stick with SMS Popup... which isn't 100% reliable, but hey.

EDIT: YEEAAAHHHH no fix. Still crashes :(

@ zeekiz that didn't work either :(
[HTC Desire S] skumara:
just wondering

1. If I dont want rom manager can i just remove the apk file in system-app and re-zip and flash your rom. Will there be any problem if i do that?

2. Is your rom overclocked? what if I dont want overclock?

tq
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Can you tell me which LBC v0.6.0 add-ons you applied and in which in order you applied them if you can remember? In case it's one of these that makes a difference? See below for the exact order than I applied in:

01 saga_lbc_mod_v0.6.0-full_EXT4_recovery_APK_removed.zip
02 google-apps-add-on_v0.1.zip
03 sense3-weather-lockscreen_v0.1.zip
04 Fusion_BlackLock-0.2-for-DS.zip
05 Fusion_NewWeatherSounds-0.1-for-DS.zip
06 sense3-cam_v0.1.zip
07 sense3-mms-sms-app.zip
08 sense3-livewallpaper_v0.1.zip

Also I didn't reboot between flashing LBC v0.6.0 ROM and installing the add-ons which is what I've read recommended elsewhere....?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Answers

Yes, edit original LBC v0.6.0 ZIP file and remove ROM manager APK and then reflash. (probably a good idea to to Wipe CACHE and DALVIK CACHE after re-flash from within recovery).

ROM isn't overclocked as by default it uses stock kernel, if you want OC then load custom kernel and use set cpu application.
[HTC Desire S] skumara:
actually any order also can. I just flashed it and everything works fine.
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
Sure, it's:

01 saga_lbc_mod_v0.6.0-full
02 sense3-mms-sms-app.zip

That's it.

I tried rebooting and no reboot. Wipe, no wipe. Straight from v0.5.4, fresh v0.6.0. Same result everytime :(.

Haha I'm tellin' ya, I literally spent the entire day doing trial and error, and basic deductions. Not that I don't appreciate the support :).

We need the captain. Captain where art thou?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'm feeling your pain!

Blimey, I appreciate the perseverance ;)......

One more question, (possibly daft question) have you tried exactly what worked for me as detailed in in post #1424 above on top of a full restored LBC v0.5.4, with only CACHE and DALVIK CACHE wiped?

Otherwise its Captain, O'Captain! (isn't that Dead Poets....)
[HTC Desire S] Toxicshadow:
If you are willing to do a little more testing, as an experiment, install the sense 3 lock screen and see if the problem goes away. I swear there is a dependancy issue with this rom.
[HTC Desire S] thangln:
I get problem too,

My mail app get FC every time opens, without Mail my DS is really a brick :D

I've tried full wipe, partly wipe but still get FC :̣̣̣)

I'm using

Radio ....: 20.41.30.0818U_3817.07.00.19_M

Recovery.: 4EXT_v2.1.3_RC4

Please experts help me :), thank you so much guys!!!
[HTC Desire S] vampire36:
K I am an absolute fan of AOSP...But this week planning to go back old ways...

So wanted a sense rom thats smoothest...

LBC seems d pick...

I had tried it when it released but it worked strange with me getting no notification on sms...

So would like someone to give me exact steps wbout how to go flashing this rom...Sense complex :P :P :P

Btw also m nt a fan of 3...so wat parts would be best kept at 2.1 and wat at 3...

Exact order and what if I want everything sense 2.1...then what....

Thanx :)
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Follow the thread in the general section I posted a solution hat worked for me in sense 2.1
[HTC Desire S] vampire36:
Rather give me a link...thread too long to follow....
[HTC Desire S] Quark^2:
I'm running LBC 0.6.0 on my Desire S and I just flashed a Tiamat Saga kernel using Kernel Manager.

The kernel version is: 2.6.35.14-Tiamat_Saga-v1.1.2

However, I got a problem now: WiFi does not work.

It keeps scanning indefinitely and does not pick up any AP's near me.

My home WiFi worked fine before this kernel, but no longer after booting this new kernel.

Anyone know what's wrong?
[HTC Desire S] vampire36:
A free advise never flash a kernel optimised for AOSP on sense...it screws up stuff...

Its difficult to solve probs cos of this...
[HTC Desire S] Quark^2:
I'm (re)flashing htc-kernel-2.6.35.10-g2ee27f5-build-1.48.707.1.zip (on LBC Addons page) right now.

I think that's the one originally in LBC 0.6.0, so that *should* get me running again with WiFi as it used to be.

Which kernel would be recommended to get CPU scheduling support (for JuiceDefender)?

And BTW, why does that screw up? I thought that WiFi wasn't touched by Sense, only GUI parts.
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
Haha thanks :)

Hmm haven't tried that step-by-step to the T, seeing as I didn't really want the other sense 3 add ons. But I suppose it's only fair for the sake of experimentation that I try it out. I have a busy week ahead of me with a handful of assignments, and once I get tweaking my phone, I can't seem to focus on anything else. So I will take some time do the test.

Also did you mean just wiping cache and Dalvik, sans full system and the zip supplied by LBC? I usually do all four.
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
That happened to me once. Except it wasn't from a foreign kernel but a zip file I flashed that was supposed to be boost my wifi. It had the inverse effect making my wifi drop out constantly. I didn't know how to fix it directly. But when I did a full wipe of everything and flashed a new rom, problem seemed to be fixed.

Try that.
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
Toxicshadow, did you end up fixing the sms notification issue on your phone?

Sorry for the spam guys, I don't know how to multi-quote on the XDA App :P
[HTC Desire S] vampire36:
Unity v4 kernel...

But i guess u wnt need it...battery would be grt wid no underclocking....

So you can stick to default kernel :)
[HTC Desire S] Quark^2:
Well, I *do* want to underclock when my phone is idling (JD setup to wake each 15 minutes, underclock in the meantime).

Ok, I guess I can try the Unity v4 kernel.

That kernel indeed states underclocking, Sense 2.1. But no sense 3.0 (I use some 3.0 parts, like the camera).

Does that pose another problem?
[HTC Desire S] gcarter:
Im sorry to have to say this, however a "released rom" which has to have one of the most basic phone features... sms, "fixed" after an initial clean install is bad!

Surely this came up in beta testing? I re-flashed my phone several times, using the wipe tool, factory reset, dalvik cache... even formatted my sd card, the sms app still crashed / force closed with incoming messages - and thats on a vanilla install without any add ons.

I've gone back to the pre-rooted vanilla installs until a better rom is released.
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
I've been following this ROM since its early days so I can tell you that it had made enormous progress. At this stage it is very well damn near perfect. The sms issue, while it affected me, I can understand it didn't happen to the majority of users so it would been hard for the developer to recognise it if it didn't happen to him. If the only bug that had arisen from this rom is just that then I think that is a pretty solid job by Mr. LBC and I commend him in that respect. I have all the confidence that he can rectify the issue.

Just don't go saying that it's a bad ROM.
[HTC Desire S] Toxicshadow:
Technically yes. I have done quite a bit of experimentation with this rom and from what I have seen, if you install 0.6 alone with no addons you dont get any SMS recieve functionality at all.

If you install 0.6 and sense 3 sms addon you get a Force Close on recieving a message.

If you install 0.6, sense 3 sms addon and sense 3 lockscreen then everything functions normally. The only other thing I had to do was re-enable all of the LED notifications because for some reason they default to off.

If you get chance, install the sense 3 lockscreen, i am confident your issues will go away. Hopefully LBC will look into this soon so that we can go back to a bare bones build without the sense 3 stuff.
[HTC Desire S] Splin-ru:
Hmm. I had a same issue with SMS, but it has been fixed quite simply - I just replaced Mms.apk from pre-rooted deodexed rom (Official_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Deodex_Murchelago_v1), and now it works with notifications.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
You can underclock with the stock kernel!

I have it for screen off profiles and a bunch of other temperature ones, when the phone gets hot. Not as many CPU scaling goverbers as custom kernel, or CPU scaling frequencies, but stock kernel is fine :)
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
My method works fine on the stock sense 2.1 lock screen :p

Since you guys all have this prolem, I may make a thread for a step by step guide to solve the issue .
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
It's strange because I've tried your method. And it didn't work for me?

Maybe someone else could try it and give their results?
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
Yeah I guess you and I have the exact same issue then. Same situation here. Although I haven't tried the Sense 3.0 lockscreen yet. Will try it later tonight if I get the time.
[HTC Desire S] axelpix:
I can confirm the Sense 3 SMS app combined with the Sense 3 Lockscreen works. All flashed together in the begining.

ROM 0.6 + Sense 3 SMS + Sense 3 Lockscreen flashed from Recovery (4EXT 2.1.3RC2) after a full wipe.
[HTC Desire S] vampire36:
I was always a fan of AOSP...

But thought of switching back to snese for a week...

So flashed lbc...

I m impressed...

Smooth and perfect...

Fast Stable and battery seems gr8 as well...but early days...

Loved d 2.1 + 3 thing...

Kudos loveboatcaptain...Appreciate the hardwork...

Hope alls good at ur family end as well :)
[HTC Desire S] skumara:
Sorry, its just my opinion. 0.5.4 is the best for my device. It's has no problem.

0.6 does not do well in my device ie when I open location, an error message pop out and say not enough space, need at least 15mb although my storage space has at least 100mb free space.

I'm back to 0.5.4 now.
[HTC Desire S] loukasz:
Flash yesterday

i dont have any problem till now..sound notification works fine..

1. Format System
2. Format Data
3. Format Cache
4. Wipe Data/Factory reset
5. Wipe Dalvik Cache
6. Install FULL_WIPE_1.5_EXT4-for-saga_
7. Install saga_lbc_mod_v0.6.0-full
8. Install all sense 3 addons with follow order
sense3-3D-launcher_v0.1.zip
sense3-weather-lockscreen_v0.1.zip
Fusion_BlackLock-0.2-for-DS.zip
Fusion_NewWeatherSounds-0.1-for-DS.zip
sense3-mms-sms-app.zip
sense3-cam_v0.1.zip
sense3-livewallpaper_v0.1.zip

edit: i press hot restart and stuck
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
This is a well documented issue (I've raised it at least twice) with the LBC ROMS which is caused if you have an ENG bootloader. There is no plan to resolve it - so avoid that option.

To escape the hang - rather than pull battery, simply VOLUME UP & VOLUME DOWN & POWER which will reboot your device.
[HTC Desire S] loukasz:
i prefer adb commnands :)

faster i think if your phone connect to pc..

how is battery?

edit: screen flashing momentarily, i think..or its my idea :P

anyone else notice this?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
ADB - Same here :), but only possible if near PC! So sometimes key reboot only way!

Battery - the battery life on this ROM is good, not as good as non sense ROMS but no obvious drain and normally get a full day of moderate use.

Screen flash sounds like a problem that was logged ages ago, never suffered it myself.
[HTC Desire S] Steinhund:
I was wondering about the SMS notification problem because I have none. But I have installed the sense 3.0 stuff. So I really do have no problem here. All notifications do fine.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I wouldn't wonder too much:D , as you like me don't have the problem ;). I imagine based on the number of people posting who suffer from it, it seems to be the minority of users who do :(.

If you can still remember, perhaps edit your previous post and include the order and series that you installed your ROM and Sense 3.0 add-ons when you upgraded in the hope that we can find a common cause or pattern and identify what it is that causes/doesn't cause the problem!
[HTC Desire S] Steinhund:
As far I can remember I installed all stuff as it is listed.

Sense 3.0 Launcher

Sense 3.0 Cam

Sense 3.0 Live Wallpaper

Sense 3.0 MMS app

Sense 3.0 weather lockscreen

I will try to install a clean 2.1 Rom tonight. Let's see if I have the same problem, too
[HTC Desire S] LunatikBunnie:
My SMS app seems to have no contact names, they just have numbers even though i have them all saved in People. Is this an ongoing issue?
[HTC Desire S] Toxicshadow:
Sounds like you may have the same sms bug that myself and others have. The only way that I managed to solve it was by installing the Sense 3 SMS app. Out of interest, are you getting notifications when recieving txt messages?
[HTC Desire S] thangln:
Hi ben_pyett,

Would you mind to consider my case as well? Thank you :)
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Anyone notice a significant battery drainage when using the phone?? Mine drains much faster than leedroid did... Also when I wake the phone up from hibernate(fast boot) after 45 miniutes I lose 1-2% battery. Or could it just be my phne is faulty?
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
I can confirm that flashing the Sense 3.0 lockscreen add on will fix the sms notification issue, doesn't matter what order.

Problem is that I want to keep the Sense 2.1 lockscreen.
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
My battery is draining too. At a steady rate of about 1% per minute and a half when screen is on. Not the battery fix I was hoping for :(
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yes, so its not just me then :( I also get around 1% drainage per minute surfing via WiFi :(

Wonder how others are getting on , like Ben, who has been using lbc mod since the start. Wonder how he can compare battery to previous versions.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Unfortunately, I've been working from home for the last couple of weeks (as I've knackered my back) so although I've upgraded to the latest version v0.6.0 quite happily, I've not really been using my device in the same way that I normally would, it's been mostly sat on my desk next to me (connected to my home wi-fi) while I've been sat in front of my PC just using that! Saying that, when I have been using the phone I've not noticed any significant battery drainage change! :(

Have you attempted to re-calibrate? :confused:
[HTC Desire S] WhiteHartMart:
Battery life for me is superb on this one - I use my phone a lot throughout the day with WiFi, Bluetooth and a lot of calls.

Those with the drain, I'd recommend the Battery Calibration app from the market before thinking the Rom is at fault :-)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
ROM should do it for you.....

I use this application myself too, but I also believe that this ROM has a built in calibration. If you simply charge your device to 100% (so that you get a green light) and then simply hard reboot your phone, on the startup the phone will perform the same tasks that the app does. So give that a try.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Thanks guys :)

Yeh, I think I wiped battery stats when i first flashed the ROM.. about 3-4 days ago. I'll give the calibration app a try :) cheers !

Having said that, I think my increased drainage may be because while I was on hols, my phone lasted me 2-3 days moderate use, taking pictures, a bit if surfing. But now, I realise being back, I have been using data + WiFi... So that could e why :p

However, this morning, my phbe dropped from 100% to 99% in abt 2 minutes , just syncing my email... Usually to get from 100%-99% on other roms is about 10 minutes heavy use for me!
[HTC Desire S] e2zippo:
I'm gonna give this ROM a try after MIUI crashed my phone so bad! I'm looking for a fast stable and clean rom, the only thing i like about Sense 3.0 is the lockscreen, which zip should i flash on 0.6.0

The one here

http://saga-lbc-mod.de/add-ons/

"sense3-weather-lockscreen_v0.1.zip"

?

Cheers!
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Yep that one...I'd also suggest the Sense 3 Black lock ring one and the Sense 3 SMS app
[HTC Desire S] loukasz:
Finnaly my battery is ok..i have 54 now from morning..

I will search about screen flash..

I have force closed on mail app..i saw the titles of mail but when i open one i receive fc..

If i reinstall mail.apk it will be ok?
[HTC Desire S] det66:
That's pretty good for my phone.twitter,fb G+, plus txt and email and phone call with Mrs who is away with work. Def better than I had on 0.5.4
[HTC Desire S] Steinhund:
For me battery life is excellent. It lasted more than 48 hours on very light use, Wi-Fi, synching and everything turned on. But, to be honest, that was when I was sick St home, too. Usually it lasts at least a whole day on my use which means medium to heavy usage. So I'm fine with that.
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
At what point does the battery start improving? I've used the battery calibration app, but haven't seen any significant improvement. I charge it to 100%, start the calibration, then unplug the charger. The battery is usually awesome at the 100% point, lasting for ages, but once it breaks that mark and goes down to 99%, it's a downward spiral from there.
[HTC Desire S] axelpix:
In my view, the battery live with this ROM is good, compared to LBC 0.5.2 and Stock 1.28 which is what I had before.

Has anybody really ever seen a ROM where battery does not count down the percentages every other minute with screen and WiFi on? I can not believe. Where is this ROM?

100% stays a while though for me with this ROM but once it started to drop to 99%, it's going down quite fast. But again, not more then with other ROMs.

---------- Post added at 07:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 AM ----------

One interesting discovery I just found.

I did a NAND backup after checking some emails and RSS news this morning. Battery was still at 100% just before starting the backup procedure (from ROM Manager). After it finished the backup and restarted the phone (took about 6 minutes), battery still said 100%. I couldn't believe and went straight into battery statistics where it says 1m48s on battery.

This said, it looks like the automated battery calibration on reboot set the current battery level to 100%. Everything at or above this level will be detected as 100% after that. This would explain why 100% stays for such a long time with this ROM before the normal countdown starts.
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
Update on battery life.

It's not looking bad fellas. My phone has been on discharge since about 11:30am (got to sleep in :)). Been using it quite frequently, but not heavy. It's now 7pm and its at 67%. I'd say that's a swell improvement, no?
[HTC Desire S] stavoltafunzia:
Hi guys, I just flashed this Rom and I would like to know if it's possible to set the CPU voltage in idle with the stock kernel.

And does anybody has ever had a sense reboot when closing an app? Just happened to me after few hours I flashed the Rom.

Except for this, great Rom!
[HTC Desire S] loukasz:
closing app with task manager?

i use advance kill manager and if i close com.htc.lanuncer or com.htc.skinpicker i have sence reboot..

anyone else have problem with mail app?

i can see who send me mail,subject and send new email..i cant read the mails..it fc..

i try to re-install mail.apk but installation failed
[HTC Desire S] stavoltafunzia:
I used taskmanager only once to close an app, I don't remeber which app but surely it wasn't a system app.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Leedroid sense ROM, I had really really good battery life. Im considering going back to it now.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Same :/ on other roms it lasts at 100% really long. but not on thus. It spirals down quick! My phne is at 68% now. And I only used it a bit for syncing, most if the time on hibernate. I lose battery when I wake up from hibernate too :(

Leedroid sense was the best for battery for me. I have calibrated the battery here, and used it for nearly 6 days now...
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Give this a try....

You certainly seem to be suffering more than most with battery consumption on this ROM version.

In the past I've used a battery stats application, that shows detail information on what uses CPU and what stops your device from sleeping (wake lock), have a try with that, in case you can spot an offending application or process!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Thanks for that, but I already flashed leedroid... Instantly, the battery life has improved ALOT!!

And I still have EXACTLY the same apps I have installed on lbc ROM.

My battery is much much better now, so I think it may be a problem with the ROM :( I really like this ROM too, so if the battery drainae issue is fixed, I may come back to it :)
[HTC Desire S] det66:
Just seems so so weird that some are having probs, like this, or with sms notification and others,like myself have had none at all :confused: