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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
So in your mind me using the music is equivelent to piracy. So how about all the

ROMs and android working on windows mobile , do you think thats legal?

If you didnt know Tiny Wings is an iphone game , which most people do , its not my fault.

Look at flash games that use mario or sonic , look at the internet as a whole. Piracy is giving away payed goods for free or making money off of someones work.

Obviously you dont even know the definition of Piracy if you think Iam a pirate Hahahahaha . Now thats too funny , also Mr.Andreas already knows about my port and doesnt care .

Freeware=Piracy LOL!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] link68759:
I do not think this is piracy, I merely pointed out that forums such as these are easily susceptible to unknowingly hosting several kinds of illicit data. If whatshisface is ok with it so be it, but I still think you should give him credit for the idea out of common decency.

I have not been attacking you at all, so stop being overly defensive.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lnando84:
In a way you have been attacking him and continue too by calling his game illicit data.. are you an xda Mod? No i didn't think so, so stop trying to police this thread!! If you have a problem with it use the report button thats what it's there for!! Can you honestly sit there and say you wouldn't get defensive if you spent countless hours making fun games to share for FREE, then instead of getting thanked, all you get in return is "I hope you got permission for that audio."? Give OP a break, I'm sure if it was such a problem xda wouldn't allow him to continually share his works here!!

@ Op.. Thanks again for sharing all your fun games with us!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] link68759:
I am merely giving a friendly warning. Technically, it isn't legal even if it's non profit...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lnando84:
Again let xda deal with it if it's not legal! I still fail to see how your comment "I hope you got permission for that audio" translates to a so called friendly warning? You would have pm'ed him your message or would have worded it differently if your intent was to be friendly. To me it seems like your trying to start trouble here and get it removed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] link68759:
Also, yeah, this stuff is perfectly legal.

Instead of "letting xda deal with it", you could, you know, give credit and cover your back so xda doesn't have to deal with it. If I were trying to get it removed, I would have actually done something. Talking to you guys about covering your backs isn't starting trouble...

Also, "friendly warning" = no repercussions. I'm warning him, I'm not calling him out on it or tipping off anyone. I'm not being nice about it either, because not giving credit to the author is very discourteous, legality aside.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lnando84:
No actually that would be warning = no repercussions. You claimed "friendly" when there's been nothing friendly about any of your posts in this thread. You're acting as if he took the original, resized it, and is now calling it his own or as if he owes you something. Like I said if it was such a problem xda would/could make appropriate changes not you!! You shared your views and gave your "friendly" warning to the op so move on already!!

I ,like many other users, appreciate the hard work and time OP puts into bringing us all these amazing games! So lets get this thread back on track.. Any new high scores out there??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] link68759:
Why don't you let OP fight his own battles, please?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
Look Timmy Marsh is the Moderator for this forum. If he says its ok then its ok end of story.

1)This game is all over the internet , no problems as the developer Andreas knows about this game.

2)Also everybody knows about the iphone game that Andreas made. Its like angry birds , everyone knows who made that game.

3)I never ever said I originally made this game. All I say is I brought it here for everyone to enjoy.

So your one of the few people who are still waiting for developers to make iphone/ipod games for windows mobile6.1,6.5. Its never going to happen , we never gotten that type of support. XDA-developers was started because Micro-soft didnt give windows mobile proper support . I got sick and tired of not having games that I want on my phone , so now I make them. I share them here so other people can play too. ALL FREE! The reason I get upset is because people always complaining I stole someone works which is ridiculous.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] link68759:
I am not saying this is a rip off, or is stolen, or etc. But unless you acknowledge the source, you kind of give off that impression. That was my initial impression; and now I see that impression was wrong ONLY after we've had this argument. Which brings me to my next point;

Maybe if you posted a link to the original work, people would stop getting that idea. Just acknowledge the author or source some way, as standard procedure. If you clearly mention right off the bat; "This is a clone of the game [x] for the [y]" then no one will think you're hiding something, or covering it up.

While technically correct, this is misleading; if you have no problem admitting this is a clone, why not just say... this is a clone of [insert source here]? Don't be misleading, that arouses suspicion.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
I never mis-lead anyone , how long have you been here? I have made Mario games, doodle jump,angry birds etc. Games everyone knows I didnt come up with myself. If you didnt know who made those big games by now I would be shocked!

Now the way you just carried on and keep going , Iam %100 sure you wanted to start a fight. The conversation is going no-where and what your saying right now is sounding real stupid. Your going to tell me people dont know who made Super Mario,doodle jump,angry birds, or tiny wings , thats a laugh.

Iam supposed to post a link to an iphone game that doesnt even run on windows mobile , are you serious? Thats the stupidest thing I heard yet , thanks for the laugh by the way. You said its legal to change ROMs and run Android on windows mobile shows me you dont even know what your talking about. Did you know Microsoft tried to shut down XDA because of ROM a long time ago? No you didnt. Did you know apple tried to sue when XDA had a iphone screen run on windows mobile? No you didnt. All you know is how to harrass me , hahahaha. Go make an original game post it here and show me how its done LOL.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] link68759:
I know of super mario, but I have never heard of doodle jump or angry birds. I happen to know of tiny wings by chance; don't assume that everyone knows about a game just because of popularity. And I think we can safely assume that the users here know an iOS app won't run on their wm device, but that isn't the purpose of posting a link; listing the source for any work is just a standard and respectable practice... Your seniority in this forum doesn't change that fact, nor does it have anything to do with this argument...

I'm not going to address the rest of your comment, but I will say this; just because a company whines about something doesn't make it illegal (they probably wish it was). Those were accusations, nothing more.

I am not looking for a fight, I merely continued because I thought you would listen to reason, but apparently we just cannot agree on this point... and since you don't seem to be able to carry out an argument without resorting to ad hominem, I'm ending my involvement here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dvdy:
I agree with link68759 with the music, Andreas Illiger explicitly states that the Tiny Wings music "is not for use in other movies, games, tv shows, etc. and you should not earn any money with it or distribute it in any form."
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lnando84:
LOL are you serious?? Have you read any of the posts in this thread? OP has already stated that Andreas knows about and doesn't care that he made this game + he has stated that the mods here(xda) have ok'd everything!! Where on here do you see him, in any form, profiting or earning money(i don't even see a donation link)? Seriously just drop it!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] UAL4588:
Could someone port this to Android? I'm excited.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lailero:
will you develop a wqvga version??

Thanx and great job!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fooldonot:
please, please, someone, do a android port
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raving_nanza:
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"I'm ending MY involvement here." :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] revenge50:
just put on your cool face :)

Tiny Wings rockz, I played that last week on a Ipod
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BeerChameleon:
Looks like a great port of the IOS, one, if i had my tp2 any more i would no doubt download it ;)

Looks almost too close to the ios one, considering graphics,name and whatnot looks identical.

Nice job developer!!!

I play this game on my ipod touch and it is really addicting!! i cant past nest 28 tho :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
I already asked android developers , and gave out source graphics in the andriod forum. No developer has answered the call yet , so hopefully we will see in the future.

Also this isnt a direct port of the iphone there are some variations in gameplay but still very addictive. I finally reached 100,000 PTs.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TKETZ196:
Gosh, I can't believe the argument about this game. I can see both sides of the arguement but if the moderator thinks its ok to post, and the person who provided the music did not mind, then i believe there is no real fault. there are clones of games all the time (Tiny Wings iOS, Dillo Hills Android). I think of this game as an adaptation, rather than a staight port or a clone.

Update on my score: 196,380 points. I haven't been able to get near that high since i got this score a few days ago.

ScreenShot:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrBeOTP2:
COuld u improve graphic :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
Wow your highscore is incredible!! Excellent job!! Thank you for the support from everyone who backed me up here. Since no major developers release games and apps for us , we have to do it ourselves. Its a great that Xda-developers continues to prove support to windows mobile users.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acuatico69:
http://xdamarket.net/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TKETZ196:
Just when I thought I could not do better, I finally broke the 200,000 point mark today :)

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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jusksmit:
The difference between a legal clone (like Dillo Hills) and this game is that Dillo Hills uses its own art, music, and code. There are no copyrighted assets in Dillo Hills: it was a spinoff built from scratch. (And just as a reminder: there is no such thing as "copyrighted gameplay". You cannot copyright gameplay mechanics, only tangible assets.)

This game, on the other hand, blatantly steals copyrighted assets: the character artwork, the terrain artwork, and the music. This is 100% illegal, even if you aren't making money from it.

It's actually sort of a shame, too, because you've made changes to the gameplay that actually look kind of clever. If you would just go find an artist to do some original graphics, instead of stealing them illegally from another game, you could probably actually make some money from this. Have you tried sites like FGL? GD.NET? Even DA.com?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] m0nkeyman:
Thanks for the game and keep up the hard work. I can't believe the amount of arguing about this. My way of thinking if company's don't make games for windows then sod them if someone makes a version. Be it legal or not how could they complain if they don't support a phone platform such as windows.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jusksmit:
I can think of a few good reasons they would complain:

1) It's illegal.

2) It's insulting and disrespectful.

3) They might have plans to release the game for that platform later, it's on their list.

4) They might have legal obligations with their subcontracted developers which prohibit redistribution of assets on other platforms.

5) They might be looking for sponsorship or partnership arrangements which are seriously affected by illegal distribution of the game or the game's assets.

The simple point here is that the artwork and music of Tiny Wings belong to nobody but Andreas Illiger, and for anyone to steal these and use them without his permission, no matter whether or not they're making money, and whether or not their intentions are noble, is illegal, disrespectful, and potentially harmful.

It really is not that hard to find someone to do a little bit of original artwork and music. I'll bet you could get custom art and music done for this game for less than $100, then you could turn around and sell the game for a profit legally. It astounds me that people stifle their own creativity by stealing when there are plenty of other people who would love to work with you to build something completely original and awesome.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
I would see your point as valid but I have seen flash games with all nintendo"s and sega"s most well known charactors. Also if you honestly think he would make a tiny wings for windows mobile 6.5 , then you havent been on this platform long enough. We never got major support , thats why sites like this exist. You think we will ever see those popular games on this platform , no we wont. We never have and never will see them.

I can understand if I was making money ,but Iam not. I wanted to play this game on windows mobile bad. I loved the ipod version and decided to make my own original game out of it. I could have made it for myself and never shared it with anyone. But thats not how Iam built , Iam friendly and share with others. Thats the whole purpose of xda-developers , to share your work.

Its a shame that people like you cannot see this and always come with something negative to say. You only have 2 posts and both of them are attacking me. That shows me you signed up with xda-developers to fight with me. So if you think your noble your not , your causing trouble and tiny wings isnt even your game. If you didnt like the idea , why did you download the game? You obviously have downloaded the game , becuase you explained the difference in my version of it. Yet you signed on just to fight with me , how odd. Doesnt make any sense to me at all.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lnando84:
LOL..wow did you sign up for an account 2day just to complain when it has nothing to do with you? Some of you guys are really incredible, if you'd actually read thru the thread you'd see that OP has already gotten permission from Andreas and also from the mods here at xda!! If he doesn't have a problem with it and it's his work & they don't & it's they're forums, then whats your problem? Get over it!! If you don't like it simply don't download or stay away from the thread!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raving_nanza:
yet another troll

nicely said dude :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jusksmit:
I've seen them, too. They are also illegal. They don't make any money, so Nintendo and Sega don't bother to sue. You'll probably get away with your illegal activities, too.

That sucks, but it doesn't change the fact that what you're doing is illegal.

That's very friendly of you, but it doesn't change the fact that copyright infringement is illegal, whether you're making money or not.

I signed up for an account because someone likened this game (an illegal copyright infringement) to my game, which is a 100% legal spinoff, built from scratch using original art, sound, and code. I wanted to make sure nobody got the impression that I condoned or participated in illegal activities.

I didn't. I don't own a windows mobile device.

Someone accused Dillo Hills of copyright infringement. That has everything to do with me.

The mods here have ZERO legal recourse in this situation. None. At all.

I did read the entire thread, and the OP stated several times that Andreas "knows about" this copyright infringement. I haven't seen anything indicating that he actually gave permission, or any proof from Andreas that he's even acknowledged it. In fact, the last time I checked his website (about three minutes ago), it still says that he has no plans to port the game to any other platforms, and that the music "is not for use in other movies, games, tv shows, etc. and you should not [...] distribute it in any form."

But anyway, I'm really not interested in bringing this game down. It's of no legal recourse to me. The only reason I stopped by is because someone made false allegations against Dillo Hills, and I wanted to clear things up.

I really would like to encourage you to go find an artist to work with, and instead of using stolen graphics and music, just make some of your own. You could turn this from an illegal clone into a legal spinoff, and maybe even make some money with it. (Or even if not, you could at least provide your players with something that is legal and original.)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raving_nanza:
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ok shhh now :)

lets not talk about copyright anymore as it has clearly been stated and argued. (also its really boring me ;))

lets all just agree to disagree on the subject.

*if you want to continue to argue about copyright etc, please just make your own thread = :D

i quoted it before but ill quote it again, just so it sinks in this time ;)

Rn
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] m0nkeyman:
justsmit May I just ask you said and I quote " I signed up for an account because someone likened this game (an illegal copyright infringement) to my game, which is a 100% legal spinoff, built from scratch using original art, sound, and code. I wanted to make sure nobody got the impression that I condoned or participated in illegal activities". So your saying you too have made a version of this game. Can you tell me what its called.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TKETZ196:
I assume you are talking about me. I absolutely DID NOT claim that you made an illegal game. I DID NOT accuse you of copyright infringement. I used your game merely as an example that there are games out there that are very similar as that is why they are clones or adaptations of each other.

I am offended you would twist my words when any idiot can read through the thread, and see that i was not making any judgments or accusations on your game. I would never accuse anyone of copyright infringement or otherwise. In fact, I highly encourage the development of anything that brings joy to people. If anything, I think "Cool, someone else made a game i can enjoy as well."

I hope your game does well, but please leave your piss poor attitude somewhere else, and I would suggest you re-read my answer(s) carefully. I am not here to pick fights with other people, but twisting my words and making accusations that I was attacking your game is something I will take personally.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TKETZ196:
I will answer this question. It is called Dillo Hills for Android OS. Go on youtube, and watch the video(s) and you can see how the game works, the graphics, and see how it runs. I am not sure if every Android 2.2 based device can run the game, but there is a Lite (Free) version available to try out.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
Dillo hills developer wants to call someone out?? He copied the style of tiny wings and made a mess. His game is full of bugs and crashes. Why dont you fix up the code to your terrible clone of tiny wings before trying to attack me. Your game is horrible , at least my game doesnt crash and have major slowdowns.

Your game is buggy like an alpha , yet you charge people money for that mess of a game you made. I made a free game and its stable on WVGA , no slowdowns or crashing ever 5 or 6 times I play like your game. You really have some nerve comming in here high and mighty when you sold people a untested game and robbed them of thier money.

Look at these youtube videos that show how you robbed people bind of thier money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6PqrX0oUjc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfqVyosciWU
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raving_nanza:
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:D lol

vid links:

[YOUTUBE]Z6PqrX0oUjc&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE][YOUTUBE]qfqVyosciWU&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
SuperMeatBoy:Saws of Death!! is finally here for windows mobile

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1062497
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
Also reaching 1,000 downloads!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrKiller2010:
Hey man will you ever do a VGA version`? please PM me. THANKS alot.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
Sorry I had a vga version I sent but lost the file on my computer when my computer crashed. Here is a PC version if you like

http://krenisis.freeforums.org/tiny-wings-for-pc-download-t204.html
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jaberjasem:
more?

thanks

could you introduce any special game site?

:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
Well this is where you can download all the games I made .

http://krenisis.freeforums.org/windows-mobile-wvga-games-f14.html
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zarpy:
Happy New Year!!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theamazingaustin:
I have the latest updates from samsung, and a rooted tab. Recently the camera stopped working. I could open it, but when I clicked on any of the settings, it showed I was touching them, but didn't bring up any menus, the preview screen is completely black, but camera apps from the marked DO work... I'm assuming something happened to my camera.apk?

Also, when I try and attach a file using the email app, I click "attach file" and it saves an email draft then nothing else happens... is it because I uninstalled the thinkfree.apk?

I've read that the camera and email are related... so perhaps that is where my problem lies?

Also, how can I install the camera.apk? I got a backup of it but after uninstalling the old one, I just get "install failed" or whatever...

Thanks!!!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkPal:
Try a factory reset. Settings, Privacy, factory reset (wipes user data). If it doesnt work. Search this forum it has email app somewhere.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theamazingaustin:
I was hoping to avoid that... oh well. thanks :D
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wackymix:
I`m getting Force Close everytime i try to open camera on my GTab, but i have an app called "camera 360" and that working very good. This problem since today. It coud be from changeing lcd density ?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lucian777:
Try 182 density.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrtaikandi:
Hi guys,

I've recently bought a HTC 7 Mozart and I was wondering how can I find out if my phone is unlocked and or debranded by factory or by someone else.

Thanks.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awrnsmn:
Get the microsoft dev tools and try to deploy an app on it. Also look and see if there are apps installed on it that wouldn't come from the market.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leyek2:
Thank you. awrnsmn
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HypeZ85:
after you found if your phone is locked or none you can try the interop-unlock and leave feedback here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1354706
[Epic 4G General] azyouthinkeyeiz:
Screenshot says it all... :)

I've been counting the days until this was to be.. Now I know...
[Epic 4G General] Amittai:
HELLS YEAH! Thanks for the info!
[Epic 4G General] lategordon:
I just logged into my Google Voice Account, (I had a previous Google Voice # separate from my Sprint #) and now there is a Sprint logo next to my cellphone number that is linked to my Google Voice Account.
[Epic 4G General] lategordon:
If I click edit, under my sprint cellphone number it brings up a new menu

You can now see there is checkbox where I can select if i want my text messages to come through google voice.