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[Epic 4G General] abhaxus:
I think I saved mine before it completely bricked. thought I would share: been running ec05 modem odined with srf 1.1. Ran visionkernel 1.2 for about two days before I saw this thread, and didn't have any huge issues till I read this thread. Phone died overnight last night off the charger despite being at 80% before I went to bed. That was the only issue I had until this afternoon.

Anyway, phone doesn't wake up from sleep when on battery. If I had to guess, the undervolt on the oled from vk1.2 has made it so whatever state the screen sleeps to when on battery won't wake. Flashed genocide 1.0 and twilight 1.1.0 since and still have the problem. On charger, there aren't any issues for me. But on battery, if the screen turns off for more than a second, I have to pull battery, then hit power button twice. Same behavior if screen turns off on phone call on battery.

Hope this helps.
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
Take my advice and Odin to DI18 and then Odin to EC05 and then flash your rom.

Flashing another kernel after you had VisionKernel wont help because Vision leaves sht behind.

I flashed Twilight on top of Vision and started to get freezes but not just regular freezes but with wierd screen artifacts.

I Odined and repartitioned and now my epic is ok but I lost Samsung logo-even after Odinining to EC05!Now im running latest Syndicate with latest Twilight and everything is cool exept ocassional DolphinHD freeze.

When you Odin try to Odin to DI18 first and EC05 after and let us know if you still have your Samsung logo when booting your phone.If you dont Odin I can almost guarantee you that you will have a brick in 2-3 days.
[Epic 4G General] thomasskull666:
People: there is no EC05 .tar. At least not a real one, so don't think that odining to EC05 will ACTUALLY get you to full EC05.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
When I first flashed the Bonsai beta 4.1.0 I let it do a OTA ec05 update prior. Next day I woke up to my phone off (while on charger) and started having weird problems. So I odin'd to eb13 using the samsung tar, ignored the eco5 OTA suggestions, rooted with one click, and flashed the beta right over letting it add cwm 3.0.2.4 and installing the ec05 modem.

I then started telling people to avoid the ec05 OTA update, but was boo hooed by a lot of people around here. Been running the 4.1.0 beta for 2 weeks now and trying everything I know to brick it with no joy. Been running the new Bonsai beta kernel (no ram/cpu under volting) now for two days and had one lockup using smartass which I think was related to setCPU.

So...my suggestion is don't use the ec05 updates in any way shape or form. The only thing you need is the ec05 modem and a custom rom. We noticed a week ago that a lot of people had used the pre-rooted ec05 were also ones who had a higher likelyhood of bricking (anecdotal evidence).

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
So you were never on stock ec05? Just eb13 straight to custom ec05 roms, if so I guess that shoots my theory down of starting with fresh ec05 either ota or odin was a possible culprit.
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
I flashed genocide over vision 1.2 and then flashed bonsai 4.0.1 over that. I assure you I have no remnants of vision1.2 on my phone and no odd behavior, at all. Its also been days since I did all this, I don't see my phone randomly bricking any time soon in my current configuration.
[Epic 4G General] abhaxus:
The only thing I've odined since I bought the phone from sprint in november are the dk28, eb13, and ec05 modems. I haven't run a stock rom at all since day 2 with the phone.

Gonna odin to di18 and see if that fixes my screen problem. I just think it's really weird that it only happens on battery. If not I'm gonna take it to Sprint on Monday for replacement.
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
Thanks, it was starting to look as if that was the one thing that all the bricks had in common, but then again your phone is just acting odd, but hasn't really bricked yet. So I guess its still a possible theory.
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
Hmm,maybe flashing differnent rom fixes things or Genocide kernel.

I flashed TwilighZone 3 times on top of Vision on Syndicate rom,i was reading thread about bricking and BAM my phone screen froze with some rainbow type artifacts.

I said "f that" screen artifacts are probably VisionKernel related,because I had freezes many times before but not this kind.

So I Odined with quickness,now everything is fine but no Samsung logo,If I waited longer there would probably be more damage.Eather way Vision is not healthy for epic.
[Epic 4G General] thomasskull666:
I would like to take this time to thank chris41g, gTen, Top Nurse, epic4GEE, iviv73 and stir fry a lot for helping figure out these issues. I was really at a loss without a phone subject to the bricking so you guys have helped tremendously. Legit, thanks guys a bunch I have a good idea of what to fix for a future release. For now, kernal (sic, lol) development is on hold until I get some more spare time so keep a lookout!
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
I feel like I have a bad case of OCD:D....when you feel like sharing your findings I'd love to hear it Thomas, also take your time on development, but you can bet I'll be on future versions of vision KERNAL!!!!....lol:rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] abhaxus:
Pretty sure odin got me back to normal. Did the EB13 full tar and now my phone is waking from sleep just fine, and will power on and off with the power button normally. Also, I had the joy of my first ever OTA update for android and did the ec05 update. Nice to see how the other half lives...

Thanks to all for the support on this thread and the other vk 1.2 thread. Much appreciated. I was freakin out today that I was going to wake up to a bricked phone tomorrow!
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
I've been on Vision kernel ever since it was released on the same night that the most recent SFR build came out and attribute it to being the reason that I never had any of the issues that everyone else had with SFR 1.1.0 Whenever you do release a new version I encourage people not to shy away from it because of what happened recently. I believe this is the best thing smoking for ACS rom user's in my personal experience with two different phones.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
I too fully support Thomas's work - but don't forget, Twilight Zone and VisionKernel share some features. If you like VisionKernel, the next version of Twilight Zone won't disappoint you either. ;)
[Epic 4G General] thomasskull666:
Most definitely, tanimn has some goodies cookin :-)
[Epic 4G General] JurKZ:
My phone is so dead

I was running ViperROM and decided to give VisionKernal a try 2 days ago. Everything was working fine until today. Phone was running at 1.2GHz with no problems. Then earlier today my phone wouldn't wake from sleep.

I pulled the battery and no change. Then I pulled the battery pushed the power button a few times, but the battery back in and it worked. Then about an hour ago I was about to try Genocide, launched quickboot to boot into recovery and phone just blacked out.

I have been trying all sorts of "tricks" to get it to come back to life with no luck If I plug it into my wall charger with the battery out I do notice that the back of the phone gets warm.

Right now the phone is sitting with the battery out. I will report back in the morning to see if my phone works.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
You were running 1.2? They pulled it from the Op. Someone also posted a possible fix in the other thread about the bricking.
[Epic 4G General] dyehya:
I have a fix for this samsung logo being gone as chris41g had the same problem and got him working as well as a person that had more issues than I could count but finally got him in DL mode and got them all fixed. I will make a new Post with instructions and screenshot and link.
[Epic 4G General] zvonkorp:
WIFI halfway on, GPS ON, background data ON

***I odin’d, wiped, wiped, wiped, wiped, wiped, then flashed to get to acs1.1 & 1.12vision, for what it’s worth***

Rom: ACS 1.1

Kernel: Vision 1.2

FS: EXT4+Journaling + On

Sd: Patriot 16gb

UV: no changes to voltage or speed, sometimes 1.2ghz

Programs installed: launcherpro, mtm gingerbread, aosp lock, bunch of games, benchmarks

Programs running: Launcher pro, messaging

Failure on: Reboot via menu

If failure was on power off/reboot, were you trying to get into recovery via the 3 buttons? YES

Previous freezes from UV: Yes

Battery Life on failure: 65%

Strange behaviors list: Antenna was funky, I’d wake up phone would be frozen, randomly 5-6 times throughout the day the whole phone would ‘soft freeze’ and not respond for a few minutes.

1) I was trying to turn my wi-fi on cause I was texting some breezie and it wouldn’t send, and it was taking a long time, and it wasn’t turning on, and it wasn’t turning off, so I held power, hit reboot, phone turned off that’s it.

2) I check XDA a few times a week. NOT every day. I downloaded 1.2 the day it came out. When my phone bricked, I didn’t even know this **** was going on.

3) vision kernel has been the most unstable kernel I’ve used in a while.

-The antenna is always making the on/off switching noise,

-the charging is goofy, battery life (on my 3500mah extended) is something like 14-18 hours unplugged, twilight kernel gave me 2 days easy

-messaging app would bug out and pressing messaging would bring up the call log, resetting phone only way to fix it

-randomly locks up for 20-120 seconds at a time 5+ times a day, with NO warning signs or anything I can really notice that sets it off. I know it happens a lot when I’m using it… not that I would know

-if left untouched for a while, 4 hours or more, it’ll either freeze and need battery pull when I found it again or slowly ‘thaw out’ after you give it inputs, though it wouldn’t respond to the inputs like it knew they were happening
[Epic 4G General] JurKZ:
They might have pulled 1.2 from the OP but that doesn't matter if I had downloaded it and was running it before they pulled it.
[Epic 4G General] rsperko:
And the link stayed up for what felt to me like a long time after the bricks started showing themselves. I did not understand that, but am glad to see the link was finally pulled.
[Epic 4G General] Custodian:
Er tyme I reed dis thwead....i blaze one up n laff
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
good for you, just do us all a favor and very clearly post a thread when and if your phone bricks so we can laugh at you.
[Epic 4G General] SAShady:
I was the latest victim! Not that I'm complaining at all, afterall it IS your own choice to flash this stuff. Interesting thing is, after 4 looooong days without my Epic, I picked up the new one, and low and behold it won't come on. Somehow it was the battery that got fried. Sprint guy puts a new battery in my "bricked" Epic, and to my horror, she turns right back on. Tech was an XDA member and laughed, and I walked happily with my new phone
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
WTF bro?

That's some dumb **** 10 char
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
Ive been running 1.2 since it released. Ive Flashed this kernel about 8 times now along with Flashing it over SRF,Bonsai, and Simply AOSP.

I love 1.2 no issue's =/

Maybe people try to Flash new rom then flash kernel without letting the new ROM boot first, then flash kernel. (gotta let the dalvik Setup first!)

Edit: I don't play with UV. maybe that's why it works.
[Epic 4G General] zvonkorp:
I didn't touch my undervolt either and my phone bricked anyway. This kernel is an Epic Destroyer
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
I'm already knowing about how great the kernel was but after what I've had to go through after it bricked my original Chuck Norris Epic there's no way in hell that I'm going to put it on my replacement. With that being said, once its re-released I'll probably put it back on the first day it comes out lmao

After it bricks your current phone let me know if you decide to reinstall it on your replacement
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
Oh that's a good point I didn't mention. I Have Journaling Off, I never use Journaling.

Also Today I rooted My friends Epic 4G, installed Syndicate 1.1 then flashed 1.2kernel. Her's also works like charm.

(Note** Please don't let this post encourage you into flashing 1.2, the thread says its for "research" so I only posted since its considered a statistic)
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Did you two knuckleheads update to EC05 OTA? I think Thomas has already determined what possibly happened fyi
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
As a friend, I hope you hold yourself 100% responsible if you friends phone bricks.
[Epic 4G General] JohnCorleone:
Well I have the 1.48 test version...does that make me a better man? For most its not worth it to chance using a kernel if it has bricked some phones. I support all of the devs on here and sometimes you may have to take 1 step back to take a giant leap forward
[Epic 4G General] dyehya:
First and foremost, I hope everyone takes a step back and breaths. Most if not all of you have warranties or TEP for your phone as you should especially when doing these kinds of system modifications. All of that being said, I can understand people sticking with something that works for them even if a lot of other people are having issues with it. It is their own choice and they aren't yelling and harassing other people to put it on their phones they are just using it for themselves.

As far as people being concerned about why the link wasn't pulled when someone yelled 'bricked' I would ask you to think about the fact that if they pulled a link everyone time a person or two had an issue the links would never be there. Also the devs don't spend every waking minute on XDA, the impaler :D excluded of course, that being said they spend a lot of their free time working on their respective codes and such and you can't hold it against them that they don't pull a link for the first few days. Also while the threads can be very long, it is important that people do their own research and understand the risks.

While I am in no way a part of ACS, I can tell you that they take this sort of issue very seriously and I have spoken to Thomas and he is reworking the Kernel from the ground up but of course it will take some time and patience.

For those of you that don't like the current Twilight Release or don't want vision 1.1 Kernel, have you checked out Rodderik's Genocide Kernel. That kernel has a lot of the goodies that Twilight and Vision have. Also for those that talk about every little bit of battery and undervolting, you can use the Voltage Control app to push the limits of your phone and find a stable undervolts that work for you.

From what we can determine while a lot of people had issues with the Vision 1.2 Kernel the bricking issues and severe issues were not obvious in internal testing until it was released to the wild and a lot of people put on their phone.

I have been having problems with the charger on my netbook but I will try and post a "fix" for those of you that haven't been bricked completely and this also fixes the "Samsung" logo missing issue that some people had. I will post a link here when it is done.

How to Restore Phone or bring it back from semi-bricked State (Must be able to get in DL Mode)
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
so you going to risk your friends phone too, glad you aren't my friend.
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
You sound like a 12 year old, more power to you.
[Epic 4G General] flyers2114:
this coming from you:eek:....if you have nothing positive to say then why come back to the thread...we all know your feelings you made them clear...maybe flashing is not for you...just saying...because I see you with more problems than the average user here every time you flash something...this statement does not just pertain to this kernel...

thomas keep on keeping on bro:D
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
I'm not a hater and I wish your phone the best of luck but its obvious that you don't even know what it is that bricked these phones. At one point I thought I at an Epic that could take anything that I threw at it as well. You're coming in here gloating but I wonder if you'll be humbled enough if your phone bricks to come back and tell us that it did.

Oh yeah, you can stop talking to me about how great it is as I have been faithfully following his work longer than you have.

And to the guy that put 1.2 on his friend's phone. That's just stupid.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Wait, you've only had it back running for a day and you're in this thread talking ****? lmao alright bro. And you're showing support for a kernel that's been taken down? He's working on a new one anyways. Yeah i'd like to have the awesome battery life at this time but I've already grown accustomed to keeping my charger on me and 1.1 gets me through the day most of the time anyways. On top of that th lady at the sprint store was nice enough to give me a spare battery they had laying around. Going into the store to get a refurb is a hassle as well and you don't know if you'll get one with weak sillicone next time. If you have a good one you shouldn't risk it and just wait for Thomas to release 1.3
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
why come back, oh wait, my phone bricked on 1.2, just checked and yea thats the topic of this thread. further, I simply said that people shouldn't be running this anymore and that the tone that went on with poeple saying that it was user error was irresponsible. It clearly wasn't user error, there was a problem with the kernal. No one blames Thomas, maybe you do secretly and want to take it out on me, don't know, don't care.

Further, I have less problems than the average user, usually I have no problems unless I don't wipe which is a pain in the butt. And you could follow your own advice if you have nothing positive to say.

When people are blatantly going out and trying to screw up their phones after they have been warned and flashing their friends phones that likely their parents bought fo them, that it seems that someone should probably say something so maybe they will get the point before their girlfriend etc breaks up with them because they destroyed the persons brand new phone by being a bonehead.
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
It was brand new. Could return?warranty?insurance? Idk did u not think of these ideas? or u just assume I'm a prick?

Sent from a Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
of course, if you have warranty, thats usually a day or so to get a new phone and 35 dollars. of course insurance makes it cheaper. but still risking someones phone over stupidity doesn't seem like a smart move.
[Epic 4G General] flyers2114:
Incorrect is all I will say....you did blame thomas and you do have a ton of problems....the posts are there to prove it....but I am done with this rant...no time for small stuff..

p.s. they are grown adults...there choice...not saying its a good choice...but it is theirs...so who cares...
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
seriously you are referencing issues that all were cleared up once i wiped and reflashed the phone?? Seriously??? Thats what you call a ton of problems. ROFL

And if I blamed Thomas, show the post where I mentioned his name and i'll personally apologize.
[Epic 4G General] zvonkorp:
Good luck and god speed my friend, may the force be with you & your phone. I look forward to hearing your test results when you have returned from the wind tunnel with extensive testing of power off & reboot long-press power button options.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
That makes sense. I apologize for being a prick. I actually am interested to know if this kernel is indeed a total wash as I have not heard of anyone running it beyond 5 days give or take.
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
Running since release. Never a issue.

Sent from a Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] zvonkorp:
Long press power button > reboot works fine?
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
I had journaling off, no undervolt, nothing, powered on and off fine, then one time out of the blue, it went to sleep and didn't wake up, permanently, it was running for like a week or so.
[Epic 4G General] SAShady:
Try a new battery. Had same issue, sprint tech popped in a new battery AFTER I got my new one. Turned right on
[Epic 4G General] rsperko:
The battery is not a problem in my case. I ordered a refurb off ebay and have switched the batteries between the brick and non-brick many times now.

For those who might think to risk bricking it, I have been unable to get my phone into DL mode even after trying the charge/discharge/1pwr dance close to a hundred times. It has become kind of a meditative thing I do now. While I am working and my code is compiling I see if I can bring it back. No luck.

I am probably going to send it off to ACS to check out since they have requested it. Perhaps they will have better luck.
[Epic 4G General] zvonkorp:
I've been doing the same. 3 days now waiting for my replacement, I keep trying to power it on with hopes it might show a sign of life but nothing. Completely dead. Epic Destroyer =(
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
I swapped my battery into my wifes phone and hers powered right up, wasn't the battery in my case.
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
yea, i did that too, over and over and over again, and no luck, it was completely dead as a doorstop.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Good beta testers are hard to find as there is definitely a knack to it. You need well developed critical thinking skills, the willingness to take a leap of faith, and be an inane tweaker. Also helps to be on good terms with the Sprint techs and have TEP. :D

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G General] JurKZ:
I honestly don't know what could be gleaned from that phone. Unless they manage to do some Frankenstein job and get the phone to boot with a different CPU and boot loader.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
That's weird. I tried my extended Seidio with no luck. It seems like it frying some people's batteries but not everyone's. Glad you didn't brick.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I was able to revive mine in a similar manner twice before it finally died for good. I have a feeling you'll be making a trip to the Sprint store very soon.
[Epic 4G General] JurKZ:
My battery worked fine after my phone bricked. If I would plug in the charger with or without a battery it would just get warm but no lights or response from anything.
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
he's also dead and so is his son. So both were defeated in life, much more important than the screen.

Glad your phone didn't permabrick. But just remember when it does, I'll be ready to laugh :) You might want to switch now before you are visiting the store.
[Epic 4G General] rsperko:
Me neither, but they asked for someone who could not bring it back to contact them ASAP. Regardless, i can use a rock to hold my papers down while it is away.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
JTAG, folks. Look it up. ;)
[Epic 4G General] JurKZ:
Gangsta. That is way above my level of tinkerability. If you dont mind me asking what do you do IRL for a job?
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
Still running 1.2 and strong. Best so far I got was 16hr battery with 61% left. Moderate usage.

Sent from a Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
What's the point? My friends at Sprint are always interested in how I manage to brick the unbrickable phone. :D when I wear out my welcome I just pony up $100 or get a refurb off ebay.

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
Lol? I've been on 1.2 since release, flashed 9 times even on diff roms and nobrick. Its not the phone thas hard to brick. Its hard to get dev releases that are bad. =P

Sent from a Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
So I'm on visionkernel 1.0 on stock ec05. My phone has flat out locked up on me a few times and I have to pull the battery. Is this related to this kernel? It the first time I use it an i didn't even know I had it lol
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
No., 1.2 is the bad kernel and has been pulled for a long time. And as far as your phone goes Shuolon, this is a bad kernel. Just because it hasn't bricked your phone it has done so to at least 90% of those who have flashed it.