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[Acer Iconia A500] jamerican413:
yzlvr, what were you trying to do with your GPS? Do you understand that you need a standalone program (like the one suggested earlier) to use GPS on the tablet? It's not the same as your phone.
[Acer Iconia A500] yzlvr:
Yes I know that, I just went into google maps and with wifi on its shows where I am at with 30m accuracy. And over to the left of the clock at right bottom, there is the gps icon that is not solid. When I tap it it says searching for gps...

Not trying to navigate at all..

When I turn off wifi locating, it will not locate me at all...

I have an android phone and all this works perfect..
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
make sure GPS is on in the settings...
[Acer Iconia A500] yzlvr:
It is... not sure what is going on. Seems like the GPS just does not work..

Can you test yours? With GPS what accuracy do you get?
[Acer Iconia A500] skyfox99:
I see what he talking about - it does NOT acquire a GPS satelite fix, whether on WiFi or not. That is weird though because I used it for google navigation wirelessly tethered to my Evo on the way home from BB and it was GPS satelite accurate. Maybe it is because I am stationary? Went outside to the big Texas sky to see if it was a signal issue, still nothing.
[Acer Iconia A500] yzlvr:
yes, gps does not lock or even try it seems.. No flasing dot in circle, should be solid when locked.
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
Mine locks.
[Acer Iconia A500] yzlvr:
ok. I guess I will have to find out if a 3rd one will work..
[Acer Iconia A500] GadjetGirl59:
I received my A500 today. I preordered from BB
[Acer Iconia A500] yzlvr:
Well, picked up my 3rd a500 and my GPS is working finally... yeah...
[Acer Iconia A500] jms_uk:
Yeah, Co pilot works with HC just fine with no data and just GPS - like any other sat nav app with its own map data (see the apps thread in the other transformer forums for exact version).. i just used it in the US this last week.. :)

On my transformer btw..
[Acer Iconia A500] Neoprimal:
lol

mmhmm.

For the record I used mine today at a shopping center. It took the GPS around 5m to lock on and then I was set. At first I thought it wasn't working because my phone locks on in about 3. Tried driving around (tethered by wifi to my phone) and it worked fine. Ironically, the tablet locks on in/from my apt and my phone can't.
[Acer Iconia A500] tuffghost:
So after two days of constantly refreshing transformer pages trying to order one I gave in and picked up the acer a500. I have to say I'm pleased with the purchase and actually glad to have a full size USB port on the tablet itself and since I wasn't planning on getting the dock the only big con is missing out on the IPS screen.

There is one thing I have noticed that is happening with my acer a500 recently that is concerning, when the screen is locked and dark it will randomly wake up and show the lock screen as if I had pressed the power button then after a few seconds it goes dim again. Has anyone else experienced this?

Also does anyone know when we'll be getting our own section here?
[Acer Iconia A500] mustafazr:
Yes.......
[Acer Iconia A500] Neoprimal:
Yep. I posted what I THINK it is on another site, I'll post it here as well. Note, this was recent so noone has had the opportunity to refute it yet and I'm not posing this as a fact, just what I suspect....

For me, it only seems to happen when I have wifi on and auto/background syncing enabled.

I have tried turning wifi off and it doesn't happen at all. I have tried turning wifi on and all syncing off and it doesn't seem to happen. Once I turn syncing on, it happens though thankfully not frequently.

I suspect that this is either on purpose, as a method of notifying users that the tablet has a notification/s pending well, notice - lol or perhaps a bug that is causing it to light up whenever the tablet syncs or has a notification sitting there, for example with weather, mail, etc.

Whenever I look at mine right after it blinks it's either Pulse sitting there or a new email or application auto-update.
[Acer Iconia A500] philote:
I noticed mine doing that last night as well.
[Acer Iconia A500] donatom3:
Run this app https://market.android.com/details?id=app-com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2

If that shows a sattelite lock longitude and latitude your GPS is WORKING.
[Acer Iconia A500] yzlvr:
I tried that app, no lock. I returned it for a500 #3 now locks.....
[Acer Iconia A500] rorytmeadows:
I've been rolling with the A500 since release date and I have a couple notes for those still considering:

I have not experienced any waking issues.

I have not experienced any GPS issues.

What's so great about the Transformer's dock? Why wouldn't you just get a bluetooth keyboard instead which doesn't require a hard connection?

Also, if you've been tracking tablet development over the past few years like I have, you would have seen the absolutely terrible reputation Asus has with touchscreens. Their convertibles were awful and contained touchscreens that were laughable (people couldn't close windows or get to the Win7 taskbar sometimes because the edges of the screens didn't work). I'll pass on that reputation, thank you very much.

Acer correctly-priced Android tablet FTW.
[Acer Iconia A500] lou0611:
Thats why I kept mine, and we just rooted the acer
[Acer Iconia A500] rorytmeadows:
Plus, everyone knows Acer is the official hardware company of the hardest core nerds.
[Acer Iconia A500] seshmaru:
This is news to me, everyone I know knows Acer is the official company of budget electronics bound to break soon.
[Acer Iconia A500] wynand32:
Three reasons:

1. Close to double the battery life.

2. Two full-size USB ports and an SD card slot

3. Can put the tablet/keyboard combo on one's lap to type. Even better than a notebook/netbook because there's no heat or fan to worry about. Can't imagine trying to do the same with a separate Bluetooth keyboard.

4. Trackpad with multitouch.

5. Hard connection that avoids the inevitable Bluetooth connectivity issues.

Oh, sorry, that was five reasons.
[Acer Iconia A500] rorytmeadows:
So, laptop?
[Acer Iconia A500] rorytmeadows:
That's news to me since the Acers I've used lasted longer than the Dells.
[Acer Iconia A500] lou0611:
I have an acer Laptop for 6 years now its a cceleron and still works great.

Also Iconia will have a DOCK
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
You have a laptop that runs android and has a detachable screen?!?!?!!?!?!
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
not like the transformer though.

it will be just like the xoom dock.
[Acer Iconia A500] thesilverhawk:
the screen on the acer is terrible though compared to an ips screen. i plan on retunring mine as soon as my transformer gets to my house lol
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
I'm doing the same. It's also heavier than it should be. 1.7 pounds? No thanks!
[Acer Iconia A500] rorytmeadows:
For what? Another battery pack to heat up and melt the cheap plastic the Transformer is made out of?

Or for the extra USB readers that allow you to plug in...a webcam?

If you wanted a laptop, go buy one.

Instead you buy a makeshift one, with Android OS, and cheap hardware.
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
what the hell are you going on about?

Also, eee netbooks are some of the best built out there.

and the ASUS rog LAPTOPS? fantastic
[Acer Iconia A500] donatom3:
Have you held the Transformer yet to make the assumption that the plastic is cheap. To me it feels better to hold than my old iPad 1.

They're both good options, can't people just be happy with what they have instead of feeling the need to bash the other one just to validate their purchase.
[Acer Iconia A500] thesilverhawk:
i have held the acer and it is kinda heavy, the back is pretty slippery too, i almost dropped it twice already, gotta be careful becasue its going back lol
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
that guy is just an annoying troll, I'm gonna ignore him now, I recommend other smart people to do the same.
[Acer Iconia A500] techronin:
I too am trying to decide between the two. This reviewer seems to think the Asus has a better screen...

w ww.laptopmag.com/review/tablets/asus-eee-pad-transformer-tf101.aspx

"The Eee Pad Transformer's 10.1-inch, 1280 x 800 display uses IPS (in-plane switching) technology like the iPad to improve viewing angles. When we watched the trailer for Thor on YouTube, it exhibited the same range of deep blacks and bright colors as the Xoom, but the Transformer seemed a bit more resistant to fingerprints. Compared to the A500, the Transformer's display had much better contrast and much wider viewing angles. The black bar at the top of the web browser was actually black on the Transformer, and seemed washed out on the A500."
[Acer Iconia A500] rorytmeadows:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/27/asus-eee-pc-t101mt-review/

Reputation.
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
The ASUS screen is most certainly the best out of the released Android tablets.
[Acer Iconia A500] dfin13:
+1. If I couldn't have gotten the Transformer, I would've gotten the Iconia, and I would've been happy as hell with whatever amazing piece of tech I was holding in my hands.

Really, even 5 years ago, did you think the Transformer or Iconia was possible? Enjoy the times we live in, fellas!
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
Do I need to post all of the reviews of the transformer?

You post the one bad review, and it's by engadget, which everyone knows are the biggest iWhores out there.
[Acer Iconia A500] seshmaru:
If you're just going to hate on the transformer why are you even in this section?

Serious question by the way.
[Acer Iconia A500] rorytmeadows:
I agree with you about Engadget, I do hate those bastards. But the reviews are the same everywhere. Same for the T91 as well. That's all I did before buying my tm2, was read reviews on convertibles.
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
oh! you're posting reviews of old devices! ahahahaha

dude, just walk away.

walk away
[Acer Iconia A500] jameshood007:
Resell Rights Videos

This is my new account.

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James
[Acer Iconia A500] seshmaru:
Uh most reviews aren't nearly as bad as engadgets, most places it gets an 8+, as an owner of a transformer I can say most of the issues they address to pull it down have already been solved by the OTA on the release date.
[Acer Iconia A500] donatom3:
HAHAHA

Atleast put the review for the right product that's the T101 not the TF101. Engadget gave the TF101 aka Transformer a 7 out of 10. They gave the Acer A500 Iconia a 6/10.

That's the right review

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/asus-eee-pad-transformer-uk-edition-review/

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/26/acer-iconia-tab-a500-review/

That's your Iconia.
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
dude, the t101 and the others you listed all had ****ty resistive touch screens

do you know anything about technology?

at all?
[Acer Iconia A500] rorytmeadows:
I'm so desperate for an XDA A500 section! They haven't started one up yet.

In reality, I have never touched the transformer and I'm sure it's okay. But I had to decide between the two this past week. My decision was really based on the fact that I've read so many articles on Asus touchscreens and wanted to avoid that. Seriously, though, I didn't want anything to do with Asus touchscreens after reading all those articles over the past couple years.

They might be better now, but I had a decision to make and I thought I'd come to this thread and just let people know that I don't really have any problems with my A500 currently.

Yes, I'm poking at the dock idea, but to each their own. I don't need a dock because I have a tm2 with a real keyboard and have barely touched it since getting my A500. Maybe that's because I'm in that obsessed-with-my-new-gadget mode or maybe it's because I don't really need that hardware setup as often as I thought.

Yes, before was a bit of trolling regarding the plastic hardware of the Transformer, but that was all in fun. I didn't realize you'd be so offended.:rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] donatom3:
The T101 is a Windows 7 netbook with a resistive touchscreen and hinge for reversible screen. I laughed cuz I actually looked into this product when I looked at the Lenovo 10" touchscreen netbook.
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
If you're going to go on about touchscreens, realize that ASUS doesn't make the touch panels.

Wow.

Also, all resistive screens suck. FACT
[Acer Iconia A500] seshmaru:
It's a capacitive touchscreen, all of them pretty much function the same way.
[Acer Iconia A500] rorytmeadows:
I know all about resistive vs. capacitive. But the maker didn't change. Congrats on no point.

I knew a kid in college named Zach Cropper-Alt. He was a douche. Let's hope that's not you.
[Acer Iconia A500] donatom3:
The touchscreen and controller (people don't realize how important the controller is) is most likely the same one on the asus as it is on the acer.
[Acer Iconia A500] Zach Alt:
No, it's not, and have you read any reviews on the Transformer?

They all go on about how responsive the screen is.

*sigh*
[Acer Iconia A500] Neoprimal:
Can't we all just get along, hang out, chat and be happy?

Please stop ruining it for us Iconia Tab squatters rory :p :D If you draw too much attention we'll get kicked out!

No matter how you look at it, they're 2 great tablets with their own strength as well as weakness - and by the fact that each person will be attracted to different features and a variety of preferences, there's the old tried and true adage "to each his own".

I think at this point it'd be nicer to compare the two vs. beef about which is nicer/better etc. I'd love to compare Honeycomb performance/behavioral notes, etc.

No one likes to hear "oh that screen is horrible", or "it's made of cheap plastic" so maybe we can try to keep that kind of criticism down.

I saw that Engadget post and I pretty much ranted about it (which I rarely do). It gets to me that they can give the Iconia a 6, the Transformer a 7 and then in the next breath give the LG Slate an 8, I mean I'm not saying it's not, but if it is then the Iconia and TF are at least 8s as well. Granted scores are a matter of opinion, but people quote and link Engadget (for example right here) and so they really should review stuff more consistently and thoroughly. I suggested a team of 3 people do the review and compare notes before slapping a good/bad and score to the item (like dancing with the stars!, which I don't watch..ahem).

Anyway, my 2c or maybe $2...I know kinda long, hehe.
[Acer Iconia A500] Fubar65:
I actually have a question for you iconia owners. Do you have the screen bleed like us transformer owners? Thanks!
[Acer Iconia A500] sammyboy405:
So my Buddy Just bought one and he cannot get the GPS to work unless he is connected to WiFi.

He Called ACER and they confirmed this? However Ive read a few folks have returned theirs a couple of times and finially got one that works with out being connected to Wifi?

Whats the Point of having GPS if you have to be connected to wifi in order to use it? Do they just assume your using google maps and download maps as you go or what? lol

Or is this all false and the GPS works with out Wifi and my buddy needs to return his for another one?
[Acer Iconia A500] rushless:
As far as some issues folks have been reporting:

Display: I have compared the Acer, Asus and iPad 2. All three look the same for color, contrast and brightness. The only place the IPS displays is better is 10% on either side of horizontal angles. No difference with vertical angles. (Not seeing any display bleed on the Acer).

Weight: It is about an ounce heavier, but has micro sd and USB host ports and connector assemblies. This adds weight. To get the same connectivity as the Acer, the Asus is actually over a pound heavier, due to needing the keyboard attachment.
[Acer Iconia A500] gordec:
Will be getting the Transformer in later today, and will compare the 2 next to each other and make final decision. In all honesty, all Acer had to do is put in an IPS display, and it would've been game over. The USB + mini USB features are just awesome to have for us to USB charge our phone and tether, granted every Starbucks has free wifi now.
[Acer Iconia A500] mr.r9:
Guys, keep the criticism or comparisons constructive & not trollish.

Anyway:

1) Does the a500 feel solid when held with one hand? Does it flex or make sounds?

2) Does the USB port work well? like using flash sticks, external harddisks, keyboards...etc.

Thank you.
[Acer Iconia A500] gordec:
1. It feels lighter than the Xoom, even though its spec says otherwise. I haven't held it to read for a long time, but it feels no different than the Xoom. I don't feel any clicks.

2. USB works really well with all FAT 32 formatted USB stick, external HD, keyboard. USB mouse doesn't work yet need driver update. Also you can charge your phone via USB.
[Acer Iconia A500] keroppilee:
Seems like a close race between acer and asus. My main concerns would be the screen quality and which company updates their honeycomb more often (my roommate tried out a xoom and he couldnt stick with it cause he said it was so buggy vs iOS)
[Acer Iconia A500] mikeazores:
I get the same behaviour.

Enviado desde mi A500 usando Tapatalk
[Acer Iconia A500] scarymonkey:
Yes it feels very solid with no obvious flex. In fact it is my preferred way to hold it as it leaves my other hand free to type

I've only tried a couple of flash drives and had no problem with any so far. That said, I do think the USB port on mine is very tight and pulling the drives out sometimes feels like am I trying to pull out the whole inside of the A500.
[Acer Iconia A500] Neoprimal:
1. It feels solid. It does not flex or make sounds at all in my experience. I've even tried squeezing it a bit to be sure.

2. It works well as long as your drive is formatted in FAT32. I have tested several flash ones. You'll have to be careful with external hard drives - powered ones (like 3.5s) work hands down however portables can draw a bit more power than the USB will provide. I have tested with a hp simplesave portable 320GB and it worked. I haven't tested with a keyboard.
[Acer Iconia A500] Neoprimal:
I do not have any screen bleed. Tested using 2 apps, max brightness on a pure black as well as color screens just to be sure and I'm not seeing any obvious bleeding. Keep in mind that the blacks on the Acer are supposedly not as deep as in IPS displays.
[Acer Iconia A500] E_man5112:
Bigger battery that charges rather than drains the tablet

Easier to carry 1 unit rather than 2

Keyboard protects screen when closed

Touchpad rather than reaching up and touching the screen constantly

Full SD card reader

Among other reasons

I agree with the below response. Never had an Acer survive long. Besides, Hard core nerds build their own PC's and Asus is one of the best choices there :p

How hard is it to like your own purchase, rather than just hate everyone elses?
[Acer Iconia A500] dagrim1:
Doesn't the use of the transformer dock depend completely on the way you intend to use the tablet?

For me the tablet is an internet device, not a laptop replacement. I see the use of the keyboard dock for when I'd travel and want to work on it, for when I have to type long pieces of text... Not for when I'm sitting on the couch to watch some youtube vids, or some other videos... etc.

Also doubting between the acer and asus atm. Only acer is available at the moment for 500 (32GB version) while the asus will be 400 for the 16GB version. My main motivation for the asus is the screen and the fact I don't really need 32GB so wouldn't mind saving a 100... Then again, at the moment only the acer is available which kinda overpowers the other points :P
[Acer Iconia A500] Neoprimal:
The worst thing you can do is impulse buy and then have regrets. If you can, just wait. I wish I could have waited for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 coming in June, alas, I can't and that's just 2 months away. I wanted the Asus, alas, I can't wait for that either, and that's already sorta kinda here! lol.

So here I am with my Iconia, which btw, I really really like. Could it be better? Of course, no product is perfect but all I can say is I'm very happy with it thus far. If the Asus drops into retail in a week or 2 I'll check it out and decide if I want to give up my led flash, usb host port and aluminum build for the ips display, otherwise I'll stay with my Iconia till the Galaxy Tab 10.1 comes and then if that's as wonderful as I THINK it will be, I'll just sell the Iconia for a $50 loss, if I can't sell it for $400, I'll keep it and enjoy it for what it has and does for me and just wait a year or so for something new and different to come along. If I had any regret about the Iconia I'd have no problem taking it back as I have a laptop and don't NEED a tablet, then I'd just wait for the TF. As it is though, I'm pleasantly surprised.

Also, I agree with you on the Asus dock. That really was what attracted me MOST about the TF, not so much the screen. I can only hope that should I choose to keep the Iconia, Acer will at some point release a similar dock to the TF, if not however - still no regrets as it's a great device.
[Acer Iconia A500] skyfox99:
Does the Asus not have ANY on board expandable media slots without the dock? Only if you get the dock can you use a micro-sd card?
[Acer Iconia A500] Neoprimal:
It has a microsd slot.
[Acer Iconia A500] techbeck:
Don't really care about gorilla glass myself. I don't drop my things and at most, they have a few minor scratches. Going to get a screen protector and that's all I need.
[Acer Iconia A500] techbeck:
What killed it for me with the new galaxy is no Hdmi out at all.
[Acer Iconia A500] bodysoda:
Newbie

I just bought Iconia A500. I would appreciate if someone can post what are essential application and things needs to be done when you get a new device like this.
[Acer Iconia A500] Dravenlee:
Asus lost another sale to Acer. And just to chime in about the screen on the Iconia: Even at a sharp viewing angle, everything is still easily readable, clear, and not at all what I was expecting. Yes there is some washout, but not to the point that I can't read text or be able to tell what is going on.
[Acer Iconia A500] dagrim1:
Lol, I recognize your way of thinking :)

But I think the same way, if I buy this and I don;t like it I can always sell it... So I lost a few bucks on the way, no problem...

From what I understand the asus will come here somewhere in June, and then we have to wait and see how the supplies are. June is a long time from now ;)

At the moment I have an Advent Vega so I can wait a little longer and my standards for the screen are pretty low already hehe. Ah well, I'll have to try and be patient a little longer I guess.... Enjoy your Acer!
[Acer Iconia A500] mr.r9:
gordec & scarymonkey, thank you for your replies.

Is the Acer your first tablet?

How's the tablet experience in general?
[Acer Iconia A500] gordec:
Now owned Xoom, Ipad, Ipad2, Iconia A500 and Transformer. I can tell you that Iconia and Transformer are both great. I had an issue with my Iconia that it will turn off everytime I unplug it from the wall charger. So obviously I had to return it. Then the Transformer came in, so I'm using it now. I can speak from memory because I don't have both tablets side by side now that ok the IPS is better but not to the point of overwhelmingly better. I do think about the USB port and really miss it. Also a nice feature of the Iconia is that it vibrates. I haven't had a chance to test with games, but may be a sweet feature to give your force feed back during gaming.

The overall appearance of the Transformer is slightly better, in my opinion, compared to the Iconia. The bezel seems slightly more aesthetically pleasing to me.

Also that you do save any where from $80 to $50 depends where you buy the Transformer or whether you pay tax since only way to get Iconia is through Best Buy.

Now back to the Xoom, it is the most solid construction out of the all 3 Honeycombs. The screen is the worst. Other areas negligible.

In the end, I think you will be really happy with the Iconia or the Transformer. Just don't think about the little details too much. Grab it sit on your couch with a cold beer and enjoy.