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[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Good news, thanks for the update guys. Speeds are erratic but fast in the Tulsa market as well - sometimes 1 Mb/s down to all servers, sometimes 4.5 Mb/s down to some servers. Naturally there are a lot of variables in play (atmospheric conditions affecting radio transmissions, server loads, AT&T network load, cell tower issues, local interference, etc).

Listening to police scanners and messing around with building antennas and such has been a little hobby of mine since I was a teenager. It's pretty amazing what can effect the quality of a radio signal. The higher the frequency, the more line-of-sight the transmission becomes. In the 800Mhz public service band, even the leaves on trees can absorb some of the radio signals, lowering signal strength and creating "flutter". Now take into account that AT&T GSM networks in North and South America operate in the 850 or 1900 Mhz range - even more susceptible to environmental variables.
[HTC Inspire 4G] jedilost1:
I've updated my APN settings and am getting an increase.

Should i also replace the telephony file?

Do we have to replace the telephony file in order to see the consistent increase in speed?
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
No, replacing the telephony.db or reconfiguring the APNs accomplishes the same thing speed-wise. No need to do both. Actually if you replace the .db file then you're replacing whatever manual APN changes you made.
[HTC Inspire 4G] trell959:
tried on cyanogenmod. was gfetting .30megabits down. .40 megabits up. now with this im getting 1.5 down and .70 up
[HTC Inspire 4G] jedilost1:
should we also edit the build.prop file or just leave as is?
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Probably just leave it as is. You could always try a few changes, but after messing with different configurations I've noticed that most ROMs have the necessary settings to allow maximum speeds or close to maximum. Maybe try playing around with hsdpa to 14 or 28, or hsxpa to 3, but you didn't hear that from me.
[HTC Inspire 4G] XCellPhoneSalesRep:
Not sure exactly how important it is, but i am not showing "MMS protocol" under my default APN and if/when i add a new or 2nd APN there also is no "MMS protocol" to enter "WAP 2.0".

I have a feeling that this might just be somewhat important because i seem to be the only person without much of a change if any :(
[HTC Inspire 4G] allstar21369:
I have the exact same problem, only I can't seem to remedy it.

I reset to default, ATT, and add Entitlement, add MEdia Net, then reconfigure/rename ATT, but no luck. I lose my data connection.

What I've realized is completely disabling the data connection is when I remove "default" from the "APN type" section in ATT (or MMS if I've renamed it).

When I add the "APN type" in MEdia Net (default,admin,fota) it doesn't break anything. It's only when I remove "default" from the ATT APN.
[HTC Inspire 4G] allstar21369:
I'm pretty sure everyone running CM7 (and other roms for all I know) do not have the "MMS protocol" option.

I've wondered how important this is and I am having issues as well. I have, however, seen plenty of CM7 users (and users who have just stated they don't have the "MMS protocol" option) achieve success with increasing download speeds via the suggestions in this thread and others... so I don't know if it could anything too important, or at least the thing that's causing us problems...
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Ok thank you very much for that info. I just added default to my ATT APN in CM7 with no ill effects. I will update the OP. This is all a work in progress but every day I am tweaking this procedure even more. Thanks for the input.
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
HSDPA should never beset to 12, 14 is what you want. 12 is, shall we say, incorrect. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Oops, ok thanks for that!!!! I will edit that post. Thanks for keeping me honest.

edit: also removed the hsdpa 112 reference. This is probably an anecdotal number floating around the forum.
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Sorry I know the OP is long, but you were probably looking in the CoreDroid section or something. In the CM7 section, my instructions don't mention anything about MMS Protocol because it isn't there in CM7. Either CM7 is already defaulting to the 2.0 protocol, or this setting is unnecessary.

BTW the lack of the MMS Protocol APN setting in CM7 doesn't affect speeds.
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
Always glad to be of help! That chart helped me many a time when trying to figure this all out. :D
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
CM7 doesn't contain that option, but the lack of it doesn't affect speeds. If you're not seeing any speed improvements, then the market you're in doesn't need the APN changes. But it was still worthwhile trying, no? :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
One more thing: you don't need 3 APNs in CM7 or any ROM, only 2 are needed. A couple of days ago I was only playing around with 3 APNs during some testing with the dev's. Just follow the instructions in the OP specific to your ROM and you'll be fine.

I also edited the OP to say that posts 2 - 169 are old info and shouldn't be followed, since the OP at that time was completely different in every way.
[HTC Inspire 4G] jeff_chaney:
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[HTC Inspire 4G] BillTheCat:
Tagging on because I'm running the same ROM and think my speeds are sub-par.
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
OK thanks Jeff. So far you are the only person reporting this problem, and you are the only one who has reported trying the APN fix on RC Mix. So maybe these APN changes aren't compatible with that ROM for some reason. Later tonight when I have some time I'll flash into RC Mix 5.9.3 to see if I can replicate the problem.

Jason
[HTC Inspire 4G] symonc:
If people aren't getting results from proper APN settings then it is probably one of two things.

1. Your market or region's backhaul set up on network - cellular coverage - etc etc etc

2. The radio/baseband you have on your phone.

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[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Jeff's problems are very unique - he's only having problems with certain apps such as Google's Listen app and the Speedtest.net app. For some reason these apps can't connect to the internet using the APN changes. Pretty weird - you'd think it would be an all or nothing situation. If you have any suggestions let us know. I'll see what I can find out later tonight.
[HTC Inspire 4G] symonc:
Is he able to get download data from

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest

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[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
I just tested and theory on two different inspires running the same ROM. If you change the apn it causes speedtest application to fc. Resetting to default corrected this. I haven't tested in any other setup.
[HTC Inspire 4G] symonc:
Did you happen to test

Uninstall speedtest

Set apn

Boot cwm clear cache & dalvik cache

Reboot

Install speedtest

Test

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[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Running on RC Mix?
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
Yes and yes.

Oh, stock radio and RIL as well.
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
And it isn't a force close issue, actually. The application is in a hold state. If you let it alone after hitting begin test it will actually eventually go.
[HTC Inspire 4G] symonc:
apk of previous version of Speedtest would be nice to test.
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
Of course I have to say that the apn settings really don't apply to me...
[HTC Inspire 4G] substance12:
this happened to me using cognition non sense. Could never figure out why. How do you test to default?
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Instructions are in the OP:

If something screws up and you need to resort to the default APN settings, from the APN selection window, press your menu button and select "Reset to Default", or if somehow things are totally screwed up now, restore the nandroid backup that you did before making this change.
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Somewhat surprisingly I wasn't able to replicate the issues in RC Mix. I just wiped and installed RC Mix 5.9.5 (this version is only available through ROM Manager). This is one of those ROMs like CoreDroid that doesn't need the default APN reconfigured; it only needs a second one added. Didn't experience any problems with any apps including Speedtest and Google Listen. Speedtest ran fine; performed several tests to different servers. Every other app I tried had a data connection. Speed wise, in my market this ROM performed exactly the same as every other ROM I've tested - before the APN fix, it was getting less than 1 MB/s up and down; after the APN fix, it instantly got 3-4 Mb/s down, 1.2 -1.3 Mb/s up.

Settings for RC Mix 5.9.5 (same as CoreDroid):

default APN: untouched

new 2nd APN:

Name: MediaNet2

APN: Phone

MMS protocol: WAP 2.0

MCC: xxx

MNC: xxx

APN type: default,admin,fota

Everything else: <Not set>

Select button for MediaNet2

edit: I now see what you guys are talking about re: Google Listen. Will report back.
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
I've added a compatibility warning to the OP regarding RC Mix HD and Cognition non Sense version.

Even though RC Mix HD does benefit greatly from the APN fix in my market, it does break the data connection to Google Listen. Experimental 3rd APN method didn't fix it either. I also tried replacing telephony.db with the stock ROM version, but this broke Speedtest. Couldn't win.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Jesse6749:
I just flashed the CoreCroid V5.4 rom and enetered these settings and both my download and upload speeds increased from 1.2M down and 785k up to 3.4M down and 1.2M up. Very nice indeed. Thanks!!!! :D:D:D
[HTC Inspire 4G] XCellPhoneSalesRep:
Actually i was looking at the "Unlocked APN" section because i thought that best pertained to my device. I am actually running Miui 1.4.22 which i didnt see "miui" listed anywhere in the first post.

Would you recommend i try other settings you have listed? If so, please point me in that direction...

FYI...

Before i changed any APN settings, i ran (3) Speedtests:

Download

:

Upload

:

Ping

:

1.58 / 0.33 / 225

1.45 / 0.35 / 228

1.75 / 0.36 / 232

Unfortunately the closest server is 107.46km away from here so i'm sure that has a little something to do with the slooooow speeds :(

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
[HTC Inspire 4G] vwyodapink:
I gave the settings a try again with the most current nightly of CM and I seem to have lost MMS. Anyone else seeing this issue? I seem to have no other data problems but I can not receive or send MMS messages.

edit:

Just tried having the main APN selected and not the second one like the first post says and MMS came back? Everything else appears normal as well.
[HTC Inspire 4G] symonc:
Bump

This still works.
[HTC Inspire 4G] buradd:
weird

so i live in southern california..

when i got my inspire from a sales contest (i work for AT&T) the internet didnt work on it, the H had the check mark under it like it was in wifi mode but with no wifi

i had to manually enter a new APN to get it to work on the mobile network

when i flashed to CM7, the stock APN that was in cm7 was perfect, worked just fine with no editing needed..

i had to RUU to stock and mess with radios to get my HSUPA enabled, but thats a different longer story.

my d/l is around 1.0 to 3.60mbps depending on time/location

my u/l was steady capped at .30mbps before i unlocked hsupa, now its 1.30mbps

heres my problem: when i do this APN setting tweak mentioned in the OP for CM7 users, i lose mobile network all together.. in fact.. you are adding MediaNet.......... the same MediaNet that my stock inspire came with that had no mobile network out of the box.. how is this working for people? im confused...

resetting back to default cm7 apn makes it work again..

again i want to mention the instructions in the OP seem to be instructing me to set up my phone with medianet just like it was when i received the phone... the same apn set up it had when the mobile network did not work.... not sure why i even attempted this tweak KNOWING it was setting it up the way it came out of the box and that initial set up didnt work for me i dunno im crazy
[HTC Inspire 4G] symonc:
I don't use medianet apn

Believe it or not some markets and accounts are still setup to use it.

I would designate medianet as an option maybe it works for you setting instead of part of a base solution. Its too market and account dependent.

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[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Since your speeds were already good I'm not sure why you tried this tweak. In the first paragraph of the OP it states:

If you are able to occasionally hit 2-4 Mb/s download speeds in the Speedtest.net app, and you can occasionally hit a sustained 1-1.3 Mb/s upload speed, then you probably don't need to mess with your APN settings and this thread probably doesn't apply to you.

As you said, the stock phone comes with the MediaNET APN, which means it probably works in 99%+ of the country. Your situation is an outlier.
[HTC Inspire 4G] buradd:
well i have been reading this post and apparently people have acquired downloads of 5+mbps after doing this tweak.. thats almost 2.0mbps gain if i could have got that to work for me.. call me stupid.

i did read the entire OP btw, including the part youre trolling me on, but thanks for reiterating it for me.

PS: i have sold many many inspires since they hit my sales floor, and including my very own inspire, 3 total i have seen needed readjusted APN to get any type of mobile data connection... but i have sold near 45 of them since release and only those 3 i have seen needing apn adjustments for mobile data.. why are the rest working in such a large number, we're all in the same area in southern california, my shop does not move... its just confusing and i dont think you guys understand properly how the medianet apn works...
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
:rolleyes: I'm not "trolling you". Just trying to save people the trouble of changing their APN's when it's not necessary.
[HTC Inspire 4G] david032766:
Im using RCmix 5.9.7 and I noticed that in the default apn thas the mms proxy was an ip address xx.xxx.xx.x (didnt write it down lol) and mms port was set to 8080 and apn type was *

I changed everything to what it said the default apn should be in the single unlocked apn and then added the second apn.

Tested 4 times right before the change highest i got was 1.1 dn and 800 up

Got one test out of speed test before it started fc'n ...... 3992 dn 1273 up

My mms and sms and internet is all still working i might just forget using speedtest and keep the new settings
[HTC Inspire 4G] buradd:
well anyhow i hope this gets somewhere.. it seems weird how all these people fix same problems by doing completely different methods... i.e. some just edited build.prop, some like me had to RUU stock and re-root and mess with radios.. and now some are fixing with APN adjustments...

OP; hope you read my PS in that last post, it was edited in.. maybe it might spark an idea or something im hoping
[HTC Inspire 4G] david032766:
HMMMM just for fun i thought i would try benchbee speed test and it works ... not sure where the server is the writing is chinese or japanese or something like that ... got 1.74 dn and 1.31 up with 275 mls ping .. maybe its a speed test issue
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Frankly this comment pisses me off a little. If you knew how much hard work and countless hours went into this thread from myself and several other people, you probably wouldn't have said that. Or maybe you would have. You can't really come into this thread around post 300 and one week later, and say things like that. I'm sorry you're confused that 3 out of the 45 Inspires you've sold at the AT&T store require an APN change, and tweaks that work for some don't work for others. Blame it on your employer's inconsistent network. Unless you're an engineer for AT&T masquerading as a cell phone salesperson, you aren't qualified to tell us what we don't understand. By all means I'm no expert either, however I am able to make changes and observe the huge improvements it makes, then share it with the xda community.

And to sum up: all that we're doing in this thread is adding the default APN config (or something very close to it) to the custom ROMs. Nothing more, nothing less. Not exactly rocket science here.

This fix is independent of flashing radios and changing build.prop settings, and is a separate issue. But yes you are correct, it seems that sometimes different people in different markets need different "tweaks" to bring their data speeds up to full potential. Some tweaks may be anecdotal, some tweaks (like this thread) are proven to work for many people but not everyone.

LOL. Sorry I don't mean to sound brash, but you missed out on the core of the research several of us did earlier in the life cycle of this thread (there were a few developers contributing also) so you are a little late to the game...this thread has already gotten somewhere and has pretty much run its full course. I'm going to re-optimize the OP to reduce its length, but it's pretty much done. I discovered a couple of weeks ago that in

my

market, most custom ROMs have poor data speeds because they only have one APN. By simply adding the 2nd MediaNet APN that is in the default ROM and switching to it, speeds quadruple instantly. Judging by the numerous success stories in this thread, there are some other markets in the country that also benefit from the same APN change. Many markets do not benefit from this change and may run worse.

I just wanted to quote you on this one more time. :p
[HTC Inspire 4G] buradd:
lolumadbro?
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
No - sorry if I was a little rude. At least it makes for some entertaining reading. :D Just wanted to make some points.
[HTC Inspire 4G] allstar21369:
He prob. still would have.

Don't worry about it bro, the input/feedback on this thread has helped myself and many others fix slow speeds and often drastically increase normal speeds.
[HTC Inspire 4G] rotchcrocket04:
Hey guys! I've been trying to get my speed issues figured out for some time now and I'm still failing. Just wondering if any of you guys had additional ideas or insight (or if maybe I should head over to editing my build.prop next)?!

My average speeds are usually around the following:

Down: 0.5 - 1.2 Mbps

Up: 0.09 - 0.25 Mbps

Average ping is around 200 - 300ms.

I'm running CM7 and have tried adding the second APN and haven't really seen any steady gains. I have tried many different servers through my testing in the SpeedTest app as well.

I'm located near Reading, Pennsylvania.

As always, thanks for any help anyone can provide. :o
[HTC Inspire 4G] BillTheCat:
I'm up in NE PA (Pike County). I had been twadding with build.prop settings. Last night I got a fairly consistent 3.5Mb down, 1.5 up. Today my speeds are tanking. Tried to add the 2nd APN, but because I'm running RCMix 5.9.7, I got the force close issues.

Trying to figure out if the deterioration in speed is because of the thunderstorms that rolled through here last night.
[HTC Inspire 4G] XAviierG:
Henry don't mind them you did good I was here from the beginning helping as much as I can and you really did help some of the people. Just ignore the haters and keep doing your work. Great job man!
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
Get your data plan fixed for HSPA+ then come back and and apologize to the nice posters who only tried to help.
[HTC Inspire 4G] buradd:
my account is an ANR employee line, it is fixed for all data ranges

my current speeds peak around 3.60mbps down and 1.35mbps up in my area

that is currently hspa+ speeds as mentioned by the new 4g definition guidelines provided by at&t.

i wasn't flaming anyone, i was giving my own insight on the topic and someone took it the wrong way and started getting a hard ePeen over it.. grow thicker skin and dont read everything so personally.. especially on the internet. come on.

OP you did a great job man, you appear to be helping some.. unfortunately me personally i think its coincidental results playing with some of your heads.. but we'll see, please be patient; i can tell you there are huge improvements coming very, very soon to the integrity of at&t's backhaul expansion
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
The only reason the stock apn doesn't work us incorrect authentication on that particular apn. Plan related. As in, not provisioned for hspa+ plan access, not data speed access. That has nothing to do with what I am talking about. This is solely based in network level authentication. The reason changing the apn works to enable data access for you and those three customers is because it authenticates to a different plan. Trust me, I know about network authentication. From a, shall we say, different perspective than a sales person or first level support. The stock inspire apns would work if your plan, even an anr line, were correctly provisioned.
[HTC Inspire 4G] buradd:
+1, confirmed with my REA - anr lines are missing an updated SOC code to be 'correctly provisioned'

when we'll be getting that, i dont know...

do you think if that was applied, would my speed increase to the ~5mbps download that others are posting?

thanks
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
Sadly, not a chance. That will only be affected by the enhanced backhaul and a bit of luck, lol.
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Updated thread title to match forum standard (thanks symonc for this suggestion). Also shortened the OP by consolidating some redundancies.
[HTC Inspire 4G] tomar5e:
Hey i was reading through the first post of the thread and realised that Cingular used to be ATT right??

I live in Australia and am on the Telstra Next G (or 4g in America calls it) network. I am getting consistent horrible speeds running MIUI ROM. Im guessing these APNS will only apply to USA right?
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
ATT used to be Cingular which used to be ATT, in a nutshell.

And no, they will not work. Unless you come to the USA and get an AT&T SIM, anyways... ;)
[HTC Inspire 4G] sinner6975:
henry, i saw in an eariler post that u tried this with cleardroid, was wondering if the settings are the same as ingersol cause my apn is locked...

cleardroid1.0.5

stock radio

kernel that came with cleardroid so i guess its stock

im gettin about .78-.90 mbps down and .45-.67 up after 4 tests
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
With Ingersoll, just follow the single/locked portion of the instructions. You'll be adding the second APN but do not put "fota" into the apn type, only use default,admin
[HTC Inspire 4G] rotchcrocket04:
I added the 2nd APN and saw no difference.

I was wondering if the thunderstorms were causing some degradation and I believe it did affect it slightly. Last night at my house I was able to get 1.97Mbps Down and 0.34Mbps Up. That's the highest Up speed I've gotten yet. Trying again today I haven't been able to get anything about 0.9Mbps Down and 0.09 Up. It's seriously terrible.

What changes have you settled with in your build.prop file to achieve those numbers? What were your max numbers prior to playing with that?

Hell if I could get a consistent 3.5 Down and 1.5 Up I'd be thrilled at this point! Thanks for any help, I appreciate it!