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[HTC Inspire 4G] BillTheCat:
Posting this here since it's specific to the Inspire, but it applies to AT&T's smart phone policy in general. I'm looking for input from those of you who have managed to somehow get your data plans grandfathered successfully.

Here's the deal.

After some 6 years with Cingular/AT&T, four years of which were off contract while using a Kaiser (not a Tilt) and HD2 (Telstra) I upgraded last month to the Inspire. While I have no beef with the phone, I do have a problem with the data plan.

My problem is this. I'm 'Goldilocks'. I need a plan that's "juuuust right" for me, but AT&T is hammering me into one of three cubbyholes, none of which fit my needs.

I have spent over two hours on the phone over the past couple weeks with line reps and one supervisor to explain to them that for those 4 years I was on a MEdia Net unlimited plan at $20/month, never did I exceed 200MB of data. In fact, there were months when I used no data or text at all, but still paid for the plan. But my concern is that I can see exceeding 200MB/month on occasion with the new phone, therefore my point to them is that they should let me use the MEdia Net plan, or risk losing my account entirely.

So after all that time on the phone and almost two weeks of waiting for them to see what they were going to do, they 'Grandfathered' me into a $30/month unlimited data plan with no text.

Now, I don't mind paying another $5/month more than I used to, to cover myself for up to 2Gig of data, though I doubt I'd ever use that much. For my usage pattern, 2Gig is virtually unlimited to me. But I have no messaging units and I resent spending $10 for 1000 messages when I only use about 20 or so per month.

What I'd be perfectly content with is $25/month for 2Gig and 200 (or even just 50!) messages. But none of the rocket scientists there can figure out how to make it happen. Interestingly enough, Tmobile is offering $80/month with unlimited data, unlimited voice and unlimited texting.

So, here I am with these choices:

1) Take the $25/month plan and just tell my friends to not text me as much anymore. :o

2) Take the $30/month unlimited plan and use the crap out of it just for spite. :eek:

3) Tell AT&T to go pound salt, return the phone, revert to my MEdia Net plan and use my Kaiser until I go with Tmobile at $80 unlimited for voice/data/text and get the upcoming HTC Sensation :D

Hoping y'all have some advice for me.

Thanks!
[HTC Inspire 4G] harlenm:
Sign up for the 200mb plan. If you exceed your data, you can retroactively upgrade to the 2gig plan for $25 and not pay any overage.

And then you can lower it down to the 200mb plan for the next billing cycle.

Edit, also, with unlimited data from tmobile, you get 2gigs of full speed data, after which you are throttled until the end of the billing cycle.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Nickovtyme:
I was with Cingular when it started and then AT&T when they bought 'em. I was lucky enough when my wife and I got our first iPhone 3g's we got the unlimited plan. At that time, texting was included. A few years later, while upgrading our phones...they told us that the unlimited data would stay the same, but we would have to pay for the texting...so we got the Unlimited Texting Family Plan. Its a few dollars more, but well worth it.

I say go for it!
[HTC Inspire 4G] tweaked:
Get the 2 gig plan for 25...its 10 bux for each gig after...So what...... i pay 5 dollars a month for 200 text messages. I can still see that offer when I hit upgrade.

Perhaps the bigger question is why do you need a smart phone since you don't want to pay for the best features. Internet, email, texting....
[HTC Inspire 4G] BillTheCat:
Only partially correct. Here it is, straight from the AT&T website:

On the 200MB plan:

DataPlus 200MB for Smartphone includes 200MB. Once 200MB is exceeded, an additional 200MB is automatically provided at a rate of $15 for each additional 200MB provided. Unused data usage does not carry over. For HSPA+/4G SmartPhones ONLY.

On the 2G Plan:

DataPro 2GB for HSPA+/4G Smartphone includes 2GB. Once 2GB is exceeded, an additional 1GB is automatically provided at a rate of $10 for each additional 1GB provided. Unused data usage does not carry over. For HSPA+/4G SmartPhones ONLY.

So, you're right, but only as it applies to the 2Gig plan at $25/month.

Maybe you missed my point. I am willing pay for data. In fact, if anything, I have overpaid. My problem is that I'll probably use a bit more than the $15 plan, but not as much as the $25 plan. I wouldn't even mind it so much if they bumped me automatically to the 2G plan and charged me an extra $15 on those months where I go over the 200MB base plan. But it's the little 'scumbaggy' business of giving the modest users the shaft. Does the first byte of data over 200MB cost any more to deliver than the first byte of data over 2 Gig? Of course not. Yet they charge $15/200MB (7.5 cents/meg) for those on the base plan, and $10/GIG (ONE CENT PER MEG!!!) for those on the 2G plan. I'd really like to hear the explanation for how they justify charging nearly EIGHT TIMES the rate per meg for data overages from one plan as opposed to the other.
[HTC Inspire 4G] sraitter:
I work for an AT&T Authorized Reseller. IMHO take the $30 Data package if you are offered it.

As long as you can keep the Unlimited Package use the crap out of it. It really is true from what I see that the overwhelming majority (not on XDA of course) will never approach the 2GB threshold. If, however, you want to use your phone for something other than Facebook and TXTing having the Grandfatherd $30 Unlimited is SOOO worth it!

Even if you returned the phone at this point, you would be in for a hella battle with Customer Service to get your MediaNet Unlimited re-instated. In retrospect I would have purchased the phone outright without anyone touching your account. You may not have had "4G" provisioned on your phone, but thats what WiFi's are for.

Hope this helps a little ...
[HTC Inspire 4G] BillTheCat:
Ah, an expert authority! ;)

Yes, the unlimited plan at $30 is an option in my 'features' section in the web account manager.

Well, here's the deal. I can still return the phone, revert to my previous plan by using my Kaiser, then next month go with Tmobile and an HTC Sensation for $80 a month for unlimted data/text/talk. And since AT&T will be buying Tmoble shortly, I'll have the benefit of the expanded network when customer accounts are migrated.

Does that make sense in your experience, or am I overthinking this?
[HTC Inspire 4G] laxwillsch:
I gotta say with your story I would return the phone and wait for the sensation. Don't get me wrong the inspire is the best phone I have ever owned and I love it but if I had the choice to revert to my captivate for a couple months and didn't have a family plan with ATT I would be gone. Tmobile has faster hspa and has way higher customer satisfaction not to mention that the sensation is gonna be the best thing out, and will probably stay that way for a while. And to top it all off this time next year your quad band sensation, that's assuming that's what tmobile is getting, you will have the benefit of two networks combined. Look at this way, no matter what you do u will be with ATT this time next year lol.
[HTC Inspire 4G] sraitter:
Just noticing you live in Milford .... g'luck with TMobile there. Check with a friend who has them how decent the service is for them.

Huge fan of Tmobile and Sprints pricing ... but living the past few years in cities that are sub-metropolitan areas their service is spotty at best.

Also, going with the $30 Unlm Smartphone Data and Rooting your Inspire you will have the ability to WiFi Hotspot your android device w/o AT&T caching on (as long as you are not using it excessively). Don't use to stream Netflix on the old Laptop, but excellent for iPad or Nook use.

Hope this is helpful as this is my 10th post so I may now comment in the Dev Forms.

Happy Rooting!!!
[HTC Inspire 4G] BillTheCat:
Point taken, but I have a 10MB cablemodem connection and wifi at home, so I'm pretty much covered in the voice/data department. Already rooted and running RCMix 5.9.x so wifi router is there, though I have to admit I haven't bothered testing it yet.

Anyway, you make sense. Utica, huh? Still got snow up there? :D
[HTC Inspire 4G] sraitter:
Sadly snowed this morning ... thought about crying.

If/when you get bored with that ROM consider the MIUI ROM. Battery life is recently meh but it so much fun... screams like an eagle and purrs like a kitten ... feels like an iPhone OS without the awful and has widgets and folders!

Enjoy!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goncasmc:
Hello everyone.

It may already be a topic like but I am not finding the solution.

my english is very bad and not quite know how to search here in the forum

I did update my Samsung SGH-I917 focus.

now its version is 7.0.7390.0.

After the update I could no longer unlock with Chevron and

install applications.

Whenever I try this message appears:

"-Please make sure it's connected using USB

-Please start the Zune application"

Somebody help me?

Thanks

Sorry for the bad English
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EnderPsp:
If you updated through Zune, do this on the same machine:

Connect to Zune, click Phone-> Settings -> Update

You should have the option to restore there

Make sure you read prevent from relocking thread and/or install the app from the samsung tools thread...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aaron McCarthy:
you cant unlock with chevron once you update to nodo (at least currently). You'll have to reinstall your backup and go back to prenodo... unlock with chevron then use samsung tools and use that to prevent it from relocking. Once thats all done you can reupdate your phone to nodo and you will be fine. Its all here in the forum. Usually the threads you need are right on the first page of the windows phone general forum.

Good luck!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goncasmc:
since I already thank you for your attention.

I did the restore and now they get to unlock chevronwp7.

But when I try to install apps by TOM XAP the following message appears:

"Make sure your phone was unlocked."

And also, this message appears

"This application is DRM protected."

What should I do?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EnderPsp:
Did the Chevron unlock work?

When you launch now Chevron, does it say "Re-Lock"?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigDog008:
Can I install any ROM on the wi-fi only Galaxy Tab? or do I need to use a particular ROM for it?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Technomancer:
Wifi-only Tab (P1010) is a completely different beast from 3G (P1000 CDMA or GSM) Tabs.

It has different CPU (Texas Instruments OMAP) and other hardware and no 3G ROM will work on it. It requires different kernel and I am not even sure whether partition layout is the same. All it shares with P1000 is form factor and name.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryn888:
@technomancer. Dude, im from philippines and im using a galaxy tab gt-p1000 korea. Can i change it to gingebread 2.3?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RaptorMD:
Well that really sux. So unless devs pick up the wifi model its not going to look so great in terms of rooting and development. I will hold back and see what happens first.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rtfm1777:
Being a complete noob to all of this I'm confused about the hardware differences between the wifi Tab and the phone Tabs. The PDAnet database lists the wifi with a Samsung-Intrinsity S5PC110 CPU which is apparently identical to a bunch of other Tab phones (ie. Verizon Samsung SCH-i800 Galaxy Tab 7.0, NTT DoCoMo Galaxy Tab 7.0 SC-01C). Is the database wrong, or is there something about CPU manufacturing I don't understand?

Again, I'm just askin' cause I'm completely new to all of this stuff. After one week I really love my brand new wifi Tab, but I can see how I might like to play around with it after awhile. Hopefully you guys won't have to start from scratch for wifi development?
[Epic 4G General] mpscmedic:
I had previously posted an issue I have had with my phone randomly shutting down when it was in sleep mode. The only way to get it back on was to pull the battery. It was not ROM specific, and was driving me crazy!. I Odined back to stock, formatted my sd card, rerooted, put a ROM on my phone and the problem seemed to go away. I just installed Launcher Pro, to see if It will happen again, so far working fine. I think Titanium backup may have something to do with this issue, because last time it started happening, I had done a restore with titanium. It might also have something to do with the SD card. I am going to play with this more over the next few days, and If I can figure it out, I will update this post. Any comments will be very appreciated.
[Xperia Arc General] dh2311:
To start off I want to say, I am NOT claiming to have created this exploit, I am merely letting people know that it works on the arc.

All credit for this goes to Chainfire and The Android Exploid Crew

The origional thread is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044765

Download here

Install the APK and run it.

Quote posted by jassired
[Xperia Arc General] diggedy:
works for me :)
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
So just push the apk to the phone, install and you're done?
[Xperia Arc General] diggedy:
no need to "push", just stick it on your sd card and install
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
I get the error thing...and I can't find the effing map where I need to remove stuff....
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
where do I find the god damned map to remove the files I need to remove when it only fails to install?????

I've checked every single map on the memory card, going nuts here...
[Xperia Arc General] dh2311:
What do you mean?
[Xperia Arc General] dh2311:
double post :s will use this later
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
I have put the .apk in my download map on the sd card of the phone, installed the apk and run it and I get the: "could not extract assets" error execute

and then when I get that I am supposed to remove some files from a map on the sd card, and I cannot find said map....I hava rebooted the phone, and I still cannot find data/local/tmp or what ever map I need to find.....
[Xperia Arc General] dh2311:
you need to execute the commands in the origional post via ADB with USB debugging enabled, because the location is in the system and ironicly you dont have the root privelages to delete them
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
I don't even know what ADB is....that's how much I know...
[Xperia Arc General] dh2311:
I have attached it to this post. ADB is the Android Debug Bridge. It is used to excecute commands on android devices. Just extract the zip, then open a command prompt and change to the directory of ADB, then excecute the commands.
[Xperia Arc General] Lef.teris:
if you get the error for esset you need to remove all the files inside to /data/local/tmp/

press: adb shell

press ls /data/local/tmp

and remove one by one the files as my example:

$ ls /data/local/tmp/

ls /data/local/tmp/

Superuser.apk

Gingerbreak

runscript

sysrun

$ rm /data/local/tmp/Superuser.apk

rm /data/local/tmp/Superuser.apk

$ rm /data/local/tmp/Gingerbreak

rm /data/local/tmp/Gingerbreak

$ rm /data/local/tmp/runscript

rm /data/local/tmp/runscript

$ rm /data/local/tmp/sysrun

rm /data/local/tmp/sysrun

and now try again with app and may it works (in my case, works)
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
maybe I should've mentioned I'm on a Mac computer with no access to windows....damn, this is so frustrating....
[Xperia Arc General] dh2311:
Ah... Its still possible you just have to get the android sdk for mac.

Get the SDK from here

Then in the tools folder ADB should be there

Then its commands as normal I think... not sure tho, don't have a mac.

Search around on here for tutorials, I'm sure someone has put up a tutorial on setting up adb on mac
[Xperia Arc General] Cim_XII:
kewl, and the exact commands is in post #1 right?
[Xperia Arc General] robbyf66:
so this root's the OS, title is confusing, does it enable fastboot? allow you to flash custom roms?
[Xperia Arc General] dh2311:
should be....
[Xperia Arc General] bartbla:
did exactly what you said, but get the message

adb: permission denied
[Xperia Arc General] dh2311:
No does not enable fastboot
[Xperia Arc General] bartbla:
have to download adb with platform tools, got it

when i double click adb it opens a terminal and lots of text and then says : process complete , then I can not type anything in that terminal window....

this is driving me nuts
[Xperia Arc General] wongkp:
hihi all,

can rooted device be unrooted?

and is the rooted device still under warranty??
[Xperia Arc General] diggedy:
Havent tried but I imagine if you reflash the official rom it will overwrite the rooting process.

And yes, officially it will void your warranty. How that works in practice is still to be determined though
[Xperia Arc General] Hikaru Kaze:
do you have arc?

have you really test it already?

sorry to be sceptical, your avatar & signature didn't show that you have arc.

or do you test that on your friend's arc, maybe?

thanks.
[Xperia Arc General] Torusy:
After some problems with "could not extract assets"

I removed tmp dir (adb shell rmdir /data/local/tmp). Then created new (adb shell mkdir /data/local/tmp).

After that I reinstalled gingerbreak app. Started it, but I didnt press the root button in the app.

Instead I ran command (adb shell /data/local/tmp/gingerbreak)

And I got the following prompt:

[**] Gingerbreak/Honeybomb -- android 2.[2,3], 3.0 softbreak
[**] (C) 2010-2011 The Android Exploid Crew. All rights reserved.
[**] Kudos to jenzi, the #brownpants-party, the Open Source folks,
[**] Zynamics for ARM skills and Onkel Budi

[**] Modded by Chainfire for APK-based install

[**] donate to [email]7-4-3-C@web.de[/email] if you like
[**] Exploit may take a while!

[+] Plain Gingerbread mode!
[+] Found system: 0x6fd17f09 strcmp: 0x6fd37c89
[+] Found PT_DYNAMIC of size 232 (29 entries)
[+] Found GOT: 0x00014344
[+] Using device /devices/platform/goldfish_mmc.0
[*] vold: 0098 GOT start: 0x00014344 GOT end: 0x00014384
[*] vold: 0098 idx: -3072 fault addr: 0x00013290
[+] fault address in range (0x00013290,idx=-3072)
[+] Calculated idx: -2003
[-] sendmsg() failed?
[-] sendmsg() failed?
[-] sendmsg() failed?
[-] sendmsg() failed?
[-] sendmsg() failed?
[-] sendmsg() failed?
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[-] sendmsg() failed?
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[*] vold: 1281 idx: -0002003
[*] vold: 1281 idx: -0002002
[*] vold: 1281 idx: -0002001
[*] vold: 1281 idx: -0002000
[*] vold: 1281 idx: -0001999
[*] vold: 1281 idx: -0001998
[*] vold: 1281 idx: -0001997
[*] vold: 1281 idx: -0001996
[*] vold: 1281 idx: -0001995
[*] vold: 1281 idx: -0001994

[!] dance forever my only one

Phone rebooted, and now my arc is rooted :D
[Xperia Arc General] Golgo:
Wow, this exploit is taking forever to run. I'm on 7min and counting :p

Edit: didn't work running the apk for me so ended up doing it like Torusy which seemed to work fine.

Howeever I cant get write access to the filesystem over adb and I'm still not able to uninstall all the crap ware apps. Anyone?
[Xperia Arc General] diggedy:
Thats because I havent got around to changing the avatar yet, but I still have a desire so its still relevant I guess.

I can confirm I have an Arc, locked to t-mobile uk with a locked boot loader and I have rooted using this method. I have also debranded using the .184 firmware. I currently use Autostarts to limit the amount of useless apps starting up whenever they feel and im using titanium backup to force the apps without the move to SD function onto the SD.

So its working ;)
[Xperia Arc General] avlopp:
Working after doing the thing with /data/local/temp, no problems.

Have tried root explorer, works fine.

Tried on Xperia Play, firmware 3.0.A.2.181

edit: Tried uninstalling a stock app too, tried with SEMCSetupWizard.apk, also worked like a charm!
[Xperia Arc General] Lef.teris:
WOW!!

This method works for m!! Take about 10 sec to finish!!!
[Xperia Arc General] Hikaru Kaze:
sorry for doubting you and the OP, yes.. I can confirm it too now..

it works..

thanks!
[Xperia Arc General] QuentinCosta:
delete this
[Xperia Arc General] Evil_Sephiroth:
Ok...this not work....and i don't know why

I put adb file in a new folder.

I do Shift+right and open cmd

i write "adb shell rmdir /data/local/tmp" but at this point nothing happen..like cmd was freezed.

what I must do???

Arc must be connected with debug ON but in wich way?

Media transfer? SD card? or nothing???
[Xperia Arc General] bartbla:
can someone tell me how ADB is working?

I have been at it for almost 2 hours and nothing seems to work...
[Xperia Arc General] Evil_Sephiroth:
I end with flashing with this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1042978

and all work....
[Xperia Arc General] bartbla:
This is all I get from ADB

I can not type anything in this terminal window
[Xperia Arc General] QuentinCosta:
i can get only this... pls help
[Xperia Arc General] bartbla:
exactly what i got...
[Xperia Arc General] ArcOnFire:
1 question:

There's no need to unlock your bootloader first, am I right?

Tried replacing it with rm -r /data/local/tmp yet?
[Xperia Arc General] QuentinCosta:
1.) works for me with this "rm -r /data/local/tmp"

2.) and after that this "mkdir /data/local/tmp"

3.) then you have to start the GingerBreak-v1.00.apk

4.) next you have to install busybox from the market

OR...

you take the GingerBreak-v1.10.apk from here

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=575276&d=1303479887

and you just have to install the apk. no need for ADB:D;)
[Xperia Arc General] lovenemesis:
Woo, it works like a charm.

Successfully rooted my HK Xperia Neo.
[Xperia Arc General] Linkinsoldier:
worked like a charm!

Thank you!
[Xperia Arc General] Juevani:
works like charm, rooted and already removed unnecessary apps, plus Ad free ;) thank you to the dev and to the person starting the thread :)
[Xperia Arc General] muk12:
Rooted Arc -Less that 5 mins :)

Got my 1st Android Phone this morning SE X ARC spent half a day googling,youtubing and finally got here installed GingerBreak.apk Enabled USB Debugging Mounted the SD card on My Mac , and then Launched the Gingerbreak.apk from the Applications Menu on the phone -and tapped on Root Device - Runs the exploit and installes SuperUSer-Processs Executed- Device Rebooted in 3-4 mins and now Im SU

Cheers to GingerBreak :)
[Xperia Arc General] Step666:
Just a quick question, the original GingerBreak thread says that when rooting, it has been known for the contents of some models of phones' memory cards to be wiped - I take it this isn't the case with the Arc?
[Xperia Arc General] commodoor:
I thought this was strange, why would it format the memory card. I htink this is for phones like samsung they have integrated memory for data.
[Xperia Arc General] Step666:
But it definitely doesn't on the Arc?

I only ask because I'm working on 'THE guide' and want to make sure I don't miss anything important out...