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[Captivate Android Development] Cezar`:
tbong777, I would like to ask you to stop sharing your personal experience, likes and dislikes regarding GB ROM

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in this thread. I would advise you to create an article for the General section where you could put every single piece of information and experiences that you had with GB ROMs or ROMs in general.

I do not want you to take this as an offense but it didn't happen once or twice that people contacted me scared that GB will ruin their phone based on information extracted from posts made by you. People are simply afraid to even flash any Talon kernel from the same reason.

These people are usually newbies and they are extremely easy to influence as they do not know very well the land they stepped on so any kind of input they get they take as a fact even if is erroneous.

This thread's main purpose is to give people support and answers to the questions and problems they have with Continuum and Talon and thats what I intend it to remain in the future as well.

Yes, we are trying to be cutting edge, yes, there are some bugs to sort out but there's no evolution if we try to pull everyone back to "old stable" things. I honestly wouldn't be able now, on 2.3.4, to run a 2.2 ROM (except from Andromeda which is build from sources and is as close as it can be to CM6 from the performance point of view), the difference is simply as big as "from the ground to the sky".

Again, I do believe that everyone will find your feedback and experience more useful in a full fledged article other than scattered all over the development section.

Thank you.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
I think its very important in the development threads to answer concerns and questions with personal experience. "GB ROMs" ALL have similar issues. No developer has been able to fix them yet. They are noted in every GB ROM thread by not only myself but others. Those comments are appropriate in those threads IMO. You may want people to try your ROMs while hiding behind a disclaimer.......... I think they SHOULD be hesitant until they understand what they are dealing with. They learn by reading other people's experiences with a particular ROM. Good and bad. Not developer "warnings" and written absolves from personal responsibility. This is not about GB its about ROM developing and individual ROMs and Kernels.

Every ROM has its own issues. Since I have flashed every major ROM I comment in their threads like many others. IF someone is afraid to flash a ROM they simply should not if they cannot afford to replace their phone in the worst case. I can so I don't care what I flash. Few support the devs and the site like I do. But I also feel protecting people from themselves can be helpful. More than the financial support.

GB flashing WILL ruin devices if the flasher doesn't understand all the risks or especially if they don't have a JIG. Why take those risks if more than a few are having the same issues? I take them because i can afford to.

Of course some developers are more concerned about becoming top dog and will not care for feedback that isn't of the rah rah type. I get it. They have ulterior motives as well.

These threads are all about Feedback. If its not always good that's part of the game. Its not as important to be top dog developer than to allow all feedback and PROTECT those who may not know what they are getting into.

Developers want user to USE THEIR ROM. They seek donations. I am not a rah rah kind of person. I tell it like it is. I support the developers and this site with far more than beer money even if I flash their ROM for a day. I put my money where my mouth is. I expect nothing in return. Already got it. No offense but you mention donations twice in the OP page...one in the largest font on the page thanking people for them indicating they keep the project alive. On your website you have a Donation GOAL chart for donations....http://continuum.pcriot.com/forum/index.php?action=treasury... I understand why you want more people using your work. But your motives for not wanting negative feedback are obvious.

This is not about the who has the fanciest ROM logo for me. It is about making the Captivate a better device . A BETTER device has less issues than a stock device not more. Froyo has less issues than GB as of this time. The bumping of older well developed Froyo ROMs to the first page in the developer section is concurring with that.

BTW just flashed 5.6 Want to see how far its come since I last tried it. 2.3.4 will have to wait.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
Okay here is some immediate feedback after flashing 5.6 Reflash..same issue

BT does not turn on......Had this issue in this ROM before. Flashed JK4, BT works.

Under display options I get "SIM initializing" When I hit OK it reverts back to contacts screen....so I cannot display FB contacts.

List scrolls are more laggy than Cognition.

Some ROMS might work better on some devices...
[Captivate Android Development] harpo1:
So go back to froyo or dev your own ROM. We don't need to see books in every GB Rom saying the same thing over and over again.
[Captivate Android Development] Cezar`:
tbong, indeed ANY FLASH can ruin a device, not only GB, flashing back to stock can do exactly the same thing.

Anyway, the rah rah you're talking about is not what Im waiting for and the donations are not what keep the project alive. What keeps the project alive is my wish to have the best device because I cant afford other one. Period. If you believe that your and people's donations are what keep me running then you can take take your money and spend them on something else. So I dont want to hear about "support" "donation" and "money" in this thread anymore. If i get even only 1 donation I still thank the person who donated, so that "big thanks" in the OP doesn't reflect the number of donation I got.

And you dont make a better device by discouraging developers. There are few posters in the dev section, including you, that keep on being rather discouraging than constructive, Im not the only one complaining, some of you might remember there were several "scandals" in "big roms" development threads which stretched the dev's patience to the max and made them ask themselves if they should continue or not.

I see you have several stars under your name, xda is probably thankful to you but you have to remember that xda would not exist without it's developers, and buying the cow doesn't always give you the milk for the rest of your life.

I understand that you are eager to be a referee in this section but be assured that the nature of the work the devs are doing is going to wipe this kind of action. Is like going on the street and starting directing people in specific directions without any right. Sheep will follow but someone might stop and punch you or at least ask you what are you doing.. (just an example)

And again about donations, I have a total of ~200$ donated to several other devs and people which made my life easier and those money came from donations as well. So stop saying that everyone is seeking donations because those money dont stick, if it would be only about donations we should all start believing in miracles
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
Point Taken..,,But you do have a monthly donation goal I linked to. Not saying that is a bad thing. But pretending it doesn't matter doesn't wash with goals set.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
Speaking for yourself....of course. When the issues are the same the posts are the same.

I know some people actually appreciate non biased honest feedback and I have too received some PMs thanking me for it and have encouraged them to try ALL ROMS and decide for themselves which is best and above all SUPPORT the developers whose work they use. But always remember too the "disclaimers" are real and there for good reason.
[Captivate Android Development] kimchi0400:
DUDE, the developer already asked you to stop posting in his thread nicely, I think maybe you should show some maturity, stop cluttering his support thread up with this and take it to pm.
[Captivate Android Development] schtuka:
I will try again. Thanks man for the tip.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
"dude?" (yeah that's mature) and where is YOUR support to XDA Leeching since 09?

"Support" is also feedback. Not all of it is going to be hearts and flowers. The developer is not the ONLY supporter. Many in the thread offer support. Some of it is warning to those who believe they will have a completely stable device flashing this ROM. That simply is not the case. There are bugs. Pages of them. Support is also warning about that fact. Developers with thick skins know this. They put their work out there... actively and rightfully seek "donations" for their efforts and therefore should have thick enough skin to take the good with the bad.

I flashed it twice pointed out a couple of immediate bugs......People should beware this is not completely stable yet.
[Captivate Android Development] harpo1:
I believe Cezar told you he would not tolerate anymore mention of donations in his thread. You really need to respect his wishes. After all this is his thread. Again since it's apparent you don't like any of the captivate dev's gingerbread Roms why don't you make one that meets your needs. I'm sure it would be perfect right out the gate.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
I think you should send $20 to him...It will be more valued than your post and 10% of his monthly goal.

I don;t have the time or inclination to develop a ROM. I do have the money to pay for them though and do. That said, I like all the ROMs but its no secret they are very buggy at this juncture. ALL of them are. My first one was Continuum. There is no leader in the GB world yet. Maybe DG will surprise everyone and restart GB developing.
[Captivate Android Development] harpo1:
Your post are of value? Please. Telling people over and over again a ROM isn't stable because some people experience minor bugs. Minor bugs do not make a ROM unstable. These minor bugs don't threaten the serviceability of the phone in any way. The phone is not going to sustain damage because of these bugs. The two main bugs on the GB Roms are Samsung issues that were fixed in the lastest release 2.3.4.
[Captivate Android Development] CuriousTech:
LOL Report it to AT&T and show them what ROM you flashed on your phone too.

:p
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
Well then i will be looking forward to 2.3.4.....although the two releases here already are hardly smooth sailing judging from the posts in the threads.

The charging issue is minor unless you want a fully charged device to begin your day, That IS unstable to many who want a charged device in the AM. WiFi dropping in and out is unstable. Minor? Perhaps unless you use WiFi. random reboots....minor to those who reboot their devices anyway a few time a day.

The problem is not two main issues but a lot of minor and uncommon issues depending on the user and application on any given day. For instance I flashed the ROM and immediately cannot start BT without switching modems, then contact display gives a SIM card error when trying to sync FB.

Flashed FF and no issues. It's not as simple as you make it or as easy for the developers to create a completely stable device across the board.
[Captivate Android Development] FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone:
I don't see anywhere in the original post where Caesar said the rom was completely stable soo.
[Captivate Android Development] anishz:
People what is this thread coming to? Please report any issues with this rom and people will help you out.

First of all, I assume NO RESPONSIBILITY to what you do to your phone! So flashing any of the files linked to in this thread is fully your own mature decision from OP.

So kids stop rattling, if you don't like please move on and don't waste yours and the precious time of the dev in answering your posts.

We need cezar to focus on the rom rather than these things.

BY :Rrryan2

I know there is a Thanks button.But there should be a *****slap button too.
[Captivate Android Development] neubauej:
tbong;

Please stop crapping on this thread.

You have been asked by the op of this thread to stop posting in this thread.

I very much doubt anyone cares how much you choose to donate, no need to flaunt it.

Please go away.

Thankyou.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
Of course no one cares because Hardly anyone donates. Just leeches off other's work. YOu have no room to talk. I don't see you supporting the site at all !! You are right I will flaunt it because the developers and this site deserves your money more than your words and "thanks".
[Captivate Android Development] nv83:
Just wanted to chime in and say that the ROM has improved so much in my experience from 5.4, to 5.5. Even in 5.5 I had to do some tweaking, find the right modem etc but 5.6 from the moment I flashed has been very impressive. Super fast and stable 'out of the box' without any tweaks. I also feel like the battery life is a lot better as well.

Love it and wouldn't hesitate to recommend it for anyone having doubts coming from a froyo rom.
[Captivate Android Development] pizz0wn3d:
Wow. I never expected to see such a self-righteous asshole on xda of all places. Grow up and get over yourself. Your criticism is far from constructive.

Edit: On an on-topic note, 5.6 is running really great for me. Thank you so much for adding in the new lockscreens! This ROM has been more than stable enough for me to use as a daily driver, which says a lot considering how much I use my phone.

-Herp derp Captivate XDA premium app
[Captivate Android Development] joedoe:
This guy (tbong777) just isn't smart enough to use a smartphone! He is a dumb phone kind of a person.
[Captivate Android Development] Alexstarfire:
After removing the OC/UV my phone still restarted 3 times today. The good thing is that it appears to be very specific this time. Every single time my phone restarted it was when I was turning WiFi on. How would I go about checking and/or changing wifi sleep policies? Anything else I might be able to do to solve this problem, like changing modems or kernels?
[Captivate Android Development] zerkai:
I believe the WiFi reboot issue is a known problem when you activate and/or deactivate WiFi multiple times through the drop down menu ( notification bar )

Swiped from my SGH-I897 using Tapatalk
[Captivate Android Development] ridethelight:
5.6 is stable as a rock for me. If its messing up for you, it's probably your fault!

Cant wait for 5.7 to drop
[Captivate Android Development] zerkai:
Neither can I. Hopefully there will be an upgrade zip, but I have a feeling it'll be the new firmware.

Swiped from my SGH-I897 using Tapatalk
[Captivate Android Development] Alexstarfire:
Well, I use a widget but I assume it's roughly the same process using either method. I didn't have this kind of trouble in 5.5. I did have restarts but they weren't directly related to WiFi. Might just give up on WiFi for now, or deal with the reboots, if there isn't even anything I can try.

Other than that issue I haven't had any real problems. Not sure about the charging glitch either since I'm only just about to start charging it for the first time on this ROM.
[Captivate Android Development] Cezar`:
Bluetooth issue fixed guys. At least it seems so.
[Captivate Android Development] kant5t1km3:
Awesome, Thanks. One problem, I dont have a BT :confused:. HELP ME?!?!:rolleyes:
[Captivate Android Development] kimchi0400:
Really? Do we have to go there?

If this is your idea of "contributing" to the community, then I'm happy that I'm a lurker.

I'll pm and post when I see issues, but for the most part I'm here reading, observing, as part of the community, in order to learn. A "leech"? Isn't the point of the xda community to SHARE information? Isn't that what I'm doing by coming here to learn?

Now here's the REAL kicker. How does that make my opinion of any less value than yours? Weren't you going on about how developers have to take into account all feedback? How about you take your own advice, follow the feedback you've been given, and stop making a mess of icezar's thread?

Name-calling, personal attacks, now THAT'S maturity. Fitting conduct for such a fine scholar and gentleman such as yourself. All of XDA would be wise to follow your example and make such a bigoted, self-important fool out of themselves. And clearly only those of such stature in the community deserve to have any say or opinion in the community. It must be hard for you to find hats that fit, with all that grey matter inside that huge head of yours.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt, as the saying goes.
[Captivate Android Development] sstarre:
+alot
[Captivate Android Development] kant5t1km3:
couldn't have said i better.:)
[Captivate Android Development] kant5t1km3:
is it ok to flash the new reorintated kernel if so how wold flash back to talon?
[Captivate Android Development] CremeFraiche:
i tried it, it works nice, i kinda like it better than talon. i normally use odin+.tar file to flash back and forth kernels but u can flash either one via recovery with the .zip
[Captivate Android Development] kant5t1km3:
yes but i cant find talon 2.2, it think it exclusive
[Captivate Android Development] neubauej:
^

This had me rolling!

:o

On topic; 5.6 has been very nice here. The lockscreen being transparent on occasion threw me for a lil bit.

Glad the bt bug got fixed !

Hows Continuum jvp coming?

Thanks again!
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Is there a fix for the lockscreen?

Sent from my 2.3.3 Ext4 Fresh Ginger Blue equipped Samsung Captivate. Yea I get 2000+ on quadrant. Yea ive pulled 5.17 mbps down from a tower. I appreciate XDA helping me turn this phone into a beast.
[Captivate Android Development] RockRatt:
+Many

I have seen this guy state the exclact same things since one of DGs 2.2 roms. Now I see them here. Next it will be on the Apex 7 rom. I think he commented about going to try it out on its post. You guys are totally right he is a dumbphone kind of guy since he can't seem to get any rom working correctly since for at least the last year.

Sorry to add to his insanity in this post but how many pages of his scrap can we endure when we are trying to look at real information in these threads? How can we get him blocked or something once he has been warned by the OP on too many occasions? There needs to be some kind of fix for him. Again sorry for adding to his clutter but I can't refrain any longer. Whatever he is smoking is giving us cancer so I don't want to take a hit.

Sent from My 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 Captivate Test Phone depending on what Gingergurl I am testing.
[Captivate Android Development] Jep56:
Soft Reboots

Mine has been doing the soft reboots (restarts at Continuum, not a full re-boot), all on it's own. But I noticed that, in my case, it has been doing it when I go to unlock my homescreen. Could it be Launcher Pro? IDK. So I switched from using the MIUI unlock to the Epic unlock, and it hasn't happened since (24 hours). Strange. Otherwise, the ROM is awesome, thanks Cezar!
[Captivate Android Development] aryn.galadar:
Have you set the "custom app" in the Lockscreen Settings? The OP has a note about that - if you don't have one set, it'll soft-reboot. (but setting it takes care of it).

Random question for anyone - is there anyway to block/ignore a user? I'm getting kinda tired of having to filter tbong777's rants manually...
[Captivate Android Development] Jep56:
No, I haven't, but I sure will try it...Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
Way better than Talon.....Always has been
[Captivate Android Development] Vivified:
I'm going to gander you didn't set the custom app for the lockscreens.
[Captivate Android Development] Jep56:
Did now, works! I need to read more! :cool:
[Captivate Android Development] neubauej:
If you mean fix for transparency, just set a lockscreen wallpaper.

:)
[Captivate Android Development] Vivified:
Opinion, and not shared by all. Talon > others
[Captivate Android Development] TomMelee:
I've been having unending launcher issues. Zeam has been my favorite launcher, but it seems to crash me, often, so I decided I'd bite the bullet and go with a stock launcher. Of the ones available, I prefer the Sony Home. The things that are currently driving me crazy are:

--slow redraw when returning to home screen

--the stupid app drawer resetting to "custom" sort. I don't want custom, I want alphabetical, and I want it to stay alphabetical

Ideas?
[Captivate Android Development] loraque:
The launcher woes are due to memory issues, and seems kernel related. It seemed to help, a little, when I moved my Launcher Pro to a system app using TitBu. It still has trouble drawing the home screen if I have been away for a while (I think the launcher is being removed from active memory, and has to restart itself), but it never FC's anymore. By default, it was installed to the SD, which made it terribly slow to load and caused FC.

Once we get on 2.3.4 base, and the kernel guys can spend time on sources that are not changing by the hour, I hope to see improvement. I know existz has been banging his head on the memory settings.
[Captivate Android Development] Cezar`:
-slow redraw.. cant say what could cause that, for me is much faster than TW.

-unfortunately that's how it is for now. Anyway, you might wanna take a look here, maybe the porter fixed the issue already. The sorting is reset when the launcher is killed or you restart the phone
[Captivate Android Development] TomMelee:
All right. Thanks for the input. I've run through just about every launcher, Zeam has always been my baby. I may try uninstalling and redownloading, it was a restored copy.
[Captivate Android Development] djoanes:
Call volume is very low. I have a SGH-I896. Which radio is best for this? People have difficulty hearing what I say and vice versa.

Cheers! Solid ROM
[Captivate Android Development] gocats7:
Talon has always worked great for me, I think it comes down to whether a persons phone will handle OC/UV, too agressive OC/UV, or just plain old flash differences. When I can install the same ROM/kernel and have variable results at times I have to believe there really is such a thing as a bad flash.
[Captivate Android Development] cnigro1279:
Maybe try a different modem? On my phone KC1 has been the loudest for both external and earpiece speakers. Callers say they can hear me ok as well. Worth a shot anyways as you can always change back.

Sent from my couch on my phone.
[Captivate Android Development] djoanes:
Sorry, can you post a link to the modem?
[Captivate Android Development] harpo1:
I

It's a sticky in the Captivate Android Development section. One of the first four threads. You'll find most if not all the modems in there.
[Captivate Android Development] djoanes:
I saw them there, which ones are safe to use with this rom, just any froyo?
[Captivate Android Development] harpo1:
Make sure it's one of the CWM3 ones and you'll be good to go.
[Captivate Android Development] j_bravo14:
I really like the Daily Briefing widgets on the 5.6 rom, anyone know where I can get this?
[Captivate Android Development] FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone:
Don't you mean KP1?
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
There is a KC1 (UGKC1) modem.
[Captivate Android Development] cnigro1279:
Nope

Nope...KC1, I've always had the best reception, volume, and battery life with it in my area....
[Captivate Android Development] TomMelee:
I've been digging through TiBu, how do I move my launcher to a system app?
[Captivate Android Development] Jep56:
While in Tit BU, find your launcher, and hold down on it, in lieu of tapping, another who window appears with the option to move to a system app.
[Captivate Android Development] schtuka:
Want to report back. I did reflash one more time Sunday night and so far everything is good. No more reboots or email double notifications or sleep death.
[Captivate Android Development] TomMelee:
Ahhh, hold it down. I got it now. Thanks mate.