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[T-Mobile LG G2x] a1yet:
ok you can ignore this it has something to do with turning off the network 2g/3g/4g

I'm not sure what the setting is causing the problem, as I'm still looking into it

I'll post here when i find the setting that is causing the problem

in case it will help someone else

UPDATE:

ok under "Mobile network settings"

you can not turn off "Data enabled" (Enable data access over Mobile network)

why this affects WiFi i do not know as it should ONLY affect 2g/2g/4g

Because it says "Over Mobile network"

but it turns off WiFi data also

If i find anything else that effects WiFi I'll post it here

but for now this is the solution to my problem

PS: it's nice to be able to solve your own problem :-)

PSS: don't call T-Mobile for help they will say you need flex pay or better plan to use WiFi, i hung up on the stupid bass-turd,

not to add to the fact it's super hard to understand their mangled English!

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[T-Mobile LG G2x] kneroj:
i got that problem last night, during my open box and testing the phone, all you have to do is reset the phone, then you are set to go; hope it works for you.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] a1yet:
thanks for the reply

i found out what i was doing wrong :-)

and edited my post

so others can not do what i did

thanks for the reply though :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Maybe they did this on purpose to keep you from using the device with out a data plan. Who knows.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] s00paSold3r:
Has anybody tried to connect to a Time Capsule?? I cannot get my G2X to see my router for nothing. Is the G2X compatible with a N router??
[T-Mobile LG G2x] a1yet:
maybe you should open your own thread about this ?

i do not use "Time Capsule" and not sure what it is (A router?)

to answer your last question the G2X supports Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot. so yes it supports the "N" standard

BUT

might not be compatible with ALL b/g/"N" routers

should be compatible with them all BUT might not be ...........

i am not an expert on routers, so cant say for sure :-)

also could be that your router is to far away from your phone

your phones antenna is tiny, so has to be closer to the router then say a laptop or computer.

you might also want to consider going to a friends house and trying their wireless router.

anyway opening your own thread on this is your best bet

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[T-Mobile LG G2x] cdd543:
I have an airport extreme broadcasting mixed n/b/g and mine is really struggling. At first I thought it was the browser, but now it's doing it in both dolphin and the stock browser. It stalls a lot, connection seems to stop and restart. I already disabled wifi sleeping on the device. Pretty frustrating. Oh and mine is setup as hidden with no security on it at this time so that isn't the issue.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] s00paSold3r:
I did start my own thread.... and the wireless works everywhere else I connect to, The Time Capsule works because my laptops and everything wireless is working ok.
[Xoom General] DroidHam:
Well well well...

Now that the Transformer is confirmed for next week, what do I do?

I just bought my Xoom from best buy this week, and can return it with no hassles. I have a $120 PDAir leather case but im sure I can get most of my money back.....

Would you guys do the trade? Granted the $$ isn't the issue, I just really want the IPS screen and USB access.

What do you guys think? Would you swap them out if you could? Disregarding the $$ factor?

The most important thing to me is development, which the Xoom clearly is ahead in now...
[Xoom General] Xevilious:
I don't think the Transformer is for me. It's just a wee bit too large, and I need my cell data plan. AFAIK, Transformer is wifi only, right? I'm guessing that the Transformer works a lot better in the keyboard department, which is my main disappointment about the Xoom.

Really though, I don't think you could go wrong with either device. The Transformer wasn't quite as rushed to the market, so you might encounter fewer bugs, but ultimately, it seems like more of an issue of form factor. The USB sounds good, but in my case, I barely use USB for anything these days.
[Xoom General] willverduzco:
From the videos I've seen of the Transformer in action, it has a slightly worse viewing angle despite being an IPS panel (versus the VA in the XOOM). That said, the Transformer's panel looks more saturated. Conversely, the Transformer seems to suffer more from glare than the XOOM.

As for development, you nailed it with the XOOM being ahead at the moment. I assume that it will stay this way for a while, as the XOOM attracted a lot of early adopters and developers since it's the first official Honeycomb device.

Additional food for thought is that the XOOM has 1 GiB of RAM, whereas the Transformer has 768 MiB.

FWIW, I'd far rather have the XOOM. As such, it's what I have chosen for myself.

Edit: Sorry! I was wrong about the RAM. Turns out, I was thinking of the G-Slate.
[Xoom General] tumbes20000:
Probably the biggest appeal the transformer for me is the usb port for future external drives. However there are ways around that issue. For me I prefer the look of the xoom, I believe motorola produces better quality items vs acer, and motorola is an american firm so I also support american designers. Win-win for me.

As I have said before. Just so long as people keep buying android tablets that's the important thing.
[Xoom General] wang1404:
Don't forget the bezel either. It gets really annoying.

Much like why i am still waiting to buy a different dualcore phone other than the g2x. The g2x is awesome nonetheless its just the bezel that is ridiculously too much. But you get my point.
[Xoom General] DroidHam:
You mean asus? I guess I should mention I have the wifi so thats not an issue. The biggest appeal for me is the USB and the screen as well. I just want more storage so I can put a bunch of movis on my xoom
[Xoom General] wang1404:
Its Asus actually lol
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
Where did you get that from? The official website states 1GB memory:

http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#specifications
[Xoom General] DeerChaser:
For me it's the xoom. Dual band wifi and a much small bezel/size. I purchased the Moto BT keyboard and never use it, it's a tablet. If I wanted a netbook, i wouldve bought one.
[Xoom General] DroidHam:
I bought that too, its nice but I dont see myself using it either... in class maybe but all my classes have computers in them for notes
[Xoom General] eallan:
The xoom has horrible viewing angles. The screen on the transformer looks way better so far and according to reviews it is way better than the xoom screen.
[Xoom General] rmmorse81:
I dunno..

I am not sure. I've had my xoom for about 3 weeks. I absolutely love it as its my laptop replacement.

However, the price of the Transformer is nice.. The screen tech also looks good. And of course there is working SD card and USB.

But damn, that bezel is ugly as hell on the Transformer. Reviews are also saying its plasticy.

Lastly, its hard to find a definitive answer on the software. Does Asus have a custom skin on there? I've told myself I will never ever buy a tablet or phone with a custom skin again. I am tired of waiting for updates from OEMs. This is one of the main reasons Im swapping my EVO for a Nexus S as soon as it drops on Sprint in the coming weeks.

What do all my fellow Xoom peeps think?
[Xoom General] ravizzle:
Only thing holding me back from immediately returning the xoom in favor odf the transformer is that the transformer apparently looks ugly and feels plasticy comparedto the xoom. I guess I gotta see it in person before I can decide.
[Xoom General] sano614:
I just bought my Xoom on the 17th from Best Buy. I have until May 1st to return it. If Best Buy has a Transformer on display, and I like it, I'll probably return the Xoom for that.

If it has almost everything the Xoom has, and I can get the keyboard dock and still walk away with $50 in my pocket from the return I'm happy.
[Xoom General] DroidHam:
I'm stickin to my Xoom... seems like it's better built. I didn't payf or it so the $$ factor doesnt bother me....

The bezel on the transformer is huge to make it fit in the dock, not really interested in that. Ill slap a 32 gig sdhc in and not worry about USB
[Xoom General] yoshitweaky:
I tested the transformer before I received my Xoom. For me the xoom wins hands down.

Its largley a matter of personal preference but I didn't actually like holding it, the bezzle is just too big to hold and type even if you had thumb key.

The screen really didn't look any better than the xooms maybe slightly more vivid colours. But the keyboard doesn't make sense to me on a tab, there is no USB on the tablet itself and currently only 16gb model is available.

But like I said that's all just personal taste

sent from my xoom. at last
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
I want a bigger bezel. The bezel on the Xoom is only about 3/4 the size of my thumb. You can't hold this thing with one hand without activating the screen in some unwanted way. Maybe I just have big hands and you don't, but still this has become annoying.

The Transformer has a larger bezel to be wide enough to seat evenly with the netbook sized keyboard attachment, but I think that there's the added benefit of being able to hold onto it.

OH and the transformer is freaking $200 less... After purchasing my WiFi Xoom I find myself using it less and less. For something like this that I'm using quite casually, I don't mind a couple "flaws" (according to some) in order to save $200. Heck, when I return my Xoom I might not be buying a different tablet at all.
[Xoom General] RMXO:
I'm going to return my Xoom this Sun to Costco. I love it but I'm kinda bored of it. I don't use it as much as before. The only time I use it now is when I'm in bed waiting to past out. Without XDA, I would of returned the Xoom after a few days of owning it. With the Transformer I get to save some benjamins.
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
After reading the Transformer Anandtech review, I would definitely get a Transformer over the Xoom... that is, if I wasn't such an aesthetic freak. The bezel size irriates me...

On a good note Anandtech says the display is "comparable to the iPad 2", and that it is definitely more impressive than the Xoom's.
[Xoom General] BlackDino:
you will be walking away -$50, the transform is $500 for the 32gb model
[Xoom General] willverduzco:
Look at the bottom video here. The fun starts at around 1:24, with probably the best comparison at around 1:53 - 2:05.
[Xoom General] RMXO:
If the screen is as good as an iP2 then its so much worth it. I would of kept my Xoom if it had an IPS on it.
[Xoom General] DroidHam:
I'm coming from a gTab, xoom looks great to me lol
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
I'd go out on a limb and say that if there were a 16gb WiFi Xoom, it would be the best selling Xoom tablet.

A LOT of people dropping the Xoom for other tablets will be because it is $200 cheaper and they don't care about the difference between 16gb and 32gb. Not to mention that there is a working SD card slot, and a 16gb SD card doesn't cost $100.
[Xoom General] BlackDino:
True, but keep in mind the xoom has internal memory that will be faster then any sd card. On top of that the xoom will be able to support up to 64gb of memory if needed.

And there is rumor of a 16gb xoom coming out soon
[Xoom General] rjoudrey:
Basically I did not buy a tabet to use like a netbook. I have a laptop which an Android tablet will never replace.
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
But my point still stands.... People that don't care about the 32gb version aren't gonna care about the differences in speeds OR just won't have a SD card either way because 16gb is enough! and the fact that the Xoom can be expanded to to 64gb doesn't matter either for the same reasons.

There's a reason why the 16gb WiFi iPad sells the best out of any SKU in the line. Its because 16gb is enough for most people (I personally maybe have 5gb filled on my Xoom), and you get the same exact OS experience whether its 16gb WiFi or 64gb 3G. The same holds for android. You're looking at tablets here that have literally almost the same internals/specs (aside from 16gb vs 32gb): Tegra 2, 1gb RAM, front/back camera and the same OS setup, but a $200 difference. That's a HUGE deal.
[Xoom General] DroidHam:
That being said, like I said in my original post, the $$ isn't an issue for me. I want the best PRODUCT, the $$ isn't a detail im considering. Storage is the #1 thing for me, i'm putting 2-3 gig 1080p rips on my internal storage and am buying a 32 gig microsdhc... I think im going to stick with my Xoom, the development seems alot further along
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
Absolutely understand that. But $200 is a big deal for most people making a buying decision. Especially when we're looking at $399 to $599. That's a big enough jump in price to justify possible shortcomings in the product.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
It's good marketing to get people to think a product is cheaper than it really is. The more practical config for the TF is with the dock, since w/o it, you lose substantial functionality. Most people will want the dock. In that light, the actual price for the TF is USD$550 for 16GB, and $650 for 32GB.

Then, it's actually $50 more than an equiv Xoom, but you do get the KB, USB ports, and extra battery. Basically, it's a wash. It comes down to personal preference.

The lowball $400 base price is to get people fixated. Buyers tend to accessorize, and not counting the accessory cost as part of the purchase. The $150 dock exploits that tendency. Note the $400 is lower than the UK pricing (VAT not withstanding), but the keyboard is much higher than UK's, and sans bundling discount. It's smart marketing when all you hear is that "the Asus is $200 less," when it's actually $50 more. Kudos to Asus.

Contrast this to Moto's terrible marketing. By putting its $800 SKU out first, it managed to have reviewers comparing its most expensive SKU against the iPad 2's least expensive SKU. When the first thing you see is $800 vs $500, it's no contest. The same thing is happening with these later Teg2 entries. In this case, it's $600 vs a lowball $400.
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
But isn't the exact same true for the Xoom? Is there anyone that's going to accessorize the TF that isn't going to accessorize the Xoom? I mean in both cases you have people buying docks, cases, screen protectors, etc. etc...

Transformer 16gb + keyboard is $550

Xoom 32gb (remember, no 16gb version atm) + nothing else is $599

- Factor in an HDMI or speaker dock or

keyboard

and we're talking $100+ more here

- Remember, if you buy a prop-up folio case and a BT keyboard from Moto, you're out $120 there

On top of this. The Transformer does not at all require the keyboard in ANY WAY to operate the tablet. They're completely separate. Sure many people who buy it are making the purchase because it has the capability, but it is not at all required.

Basically what I'm saying is that they're going to accessorize both, but the entry point for the Transformer Tablet is $200 lower. Why are you trying to negate this?
[Xoom General] e.mote:
>But isn't the exact same true for the Xoom?

No. Per my post, the dock is an essential part of the unit. Without it, you don't have USB ports. It isn't an "accessory" in the sense that it's not really optional. We can quibble about what's "optional," but the bottom line is that most who want the TF will also want to get the dock, hence it should be viewed as part of the package.

>Xoom 32gb (remember, no 16gb version atm)+ nothing else is $599

Yes, that's part of Moto's blunder, in going with the premium-first approach. I can understand this philosophy, since Moto is a cellphone vendor and never a PC vendor. Competing on price was never a part of its DNA. It will learn.
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
I understand what you're saying. But tablet vs. tablet, the entry price for the Xoom is $200 more ($100 more if you wanna split hairs on storage).

If you get each tablet and configure it in order to use keyboard input, the Xoom is still more expensive. Your original point is throwing a skew on it assuming that someone is looking at the Transformer and the Xoom, but only will use a keyboard in they get the Transformer... They're either going to use both with a keyboard, or both without a keyboard, or of course they're returning the Xoom in order to use the Transformer with a keyboard because its important and more properly implemented. If the Transformer really required a keyboard, it would come in the same box and the package would cost $150 more.

Do you understand what I'm saying? Both tablets have the same specs (factoring keyboard on both, or not), but one is cheaper, accessories aside.

I agree. Motorola's launch was awful.

But overall let me say,

I own the Xoom

, its great its useful yada yada yada, but its damn expensive, and they're trying to explain why its so expensive and people like me understand that they could've made it cheaper (and not lost their ass). The EeePad Transformer proves my point, you can make a Tegra 2 honeycomb 10.1" tablet w/ 16gb of storage and sell it for $399.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
>the entry price for the Xoom is $200 more ($100 more if you wanna split hairs on storage).

The entry price difference is $550 for Asus TF 16GB, $600 for Xoom 32GB. I'll repeat yet again, the dock is not optional, even though it is sold separately. The whole selling point of the Transformer (per its name) is with the dock. The integrated keyboard is the sine qua non of the product.

The point is not about the dollar differences, but about a marketing tactic. Lowball pricing, like loss leaders, is commonly used as a selling hook. Given that the dock is an integral part of the product, then the price w/o it is lowballed.

>Motorola's launch was awful.

Moto isn't alone. LG and HTC are following in its footsteps, to wit the pricing for the GSlate and Flyer, respectively. It's not an accident that all these are smartphone vendors and not PC vendors.
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
Why is that? If I want a 10" honeycomb tablet and have no need for a keyboard, there is $399 for the Transformer, and $599 for the Xoom. The dock is 100% optional. You can buy the tablet without the dock!!!

How can you argue this? The keyboard is not required to use the tablet in the same way that you use the Xoom. You can argue all day that the dock is required to use the Transformer like a laptop, and I can't argue that, but when it comes down to it you're making a comparison to another tablet (the Xoom) that cannot use a keyboard in the same way. Therefore, compare apples to apples, tablet to tablet, sans keyboard, and look at the $200 difference (or hell, even with a keyboard/dock solution on both, and see the $170 difference).

You act like they're selling the Transformer for $399 without a battery or a processor that makes it inoperable without purchasing them separately. Your logic is off the wall right now.

Yes, I agree. Its the oldest trick in the book to advertise the on-contract price with a carrier to mask the true price. Case in point: G-slate $529 on contract after MIR, but $750 without. Not to mention that these companies make good money off of licensing the specs and name for cases/accessories/etc.. The Xoom and every other cell phone in America follows this structure.
[Xoom General] sano614:
I don't need the 32 gb version. And if I ever need more space SD cards are cheap. =)
[Xoom General] ravizzle:
The keyboard is optional, not necessary. Its like that smart cover thing apple has, 70 percent of ppl buy it but u don't have to get it if u want the ipad. At 399 u get the same specs as a xoom and a better screen but not as nice build quality. At 399 its tempting and at 550 with a dock vs a 599 xoom with 79 kb it is still 130 bucks cheaper
[Xoom General] vamp6x6x6x:
I think you should keep your Xoom vs getting the Transformer...

I will admit that the keyboard dock interested me a bit, but then I realized that the Transformer is uglier then the Xoom(I think anyway), and not only that, but the fact of the matter is that if the docking keyboard was that important to me maybe I should just think about getting another laptop lol.

Thats just what I think; hope it helps.
[Xoom General] rmmorse81:
Enjoy your custom skin and 6 month wait on updates
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
what custom skin? they've added 3 widgets and some wallpapers, and changed the back, home, multitasking button's look. No other skinning.
[Xoom General] rmmorse81:
I'm reading different... hear the dock required customization with honeycomb
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
mm don't think so. just a couple of driver type programs to let it send signals. Keyboard and mouse input is already part of honeycomb.
[Xoom General] chbennett:
I think that it is too much of a personal choice to take anything away from this thread. I choose the xoom just because it was first, it has the specs, its supported by some great devs, and as far as the screen goes, I am purfetly happy with it.

Sent from my Xoom the way it should be, rooted and with SD card.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
I can't be the only one thinking this but the TF is ugly as ****, I'm sorry but that's the truth. 2nd like someone else said , good luck with your 2 months behind software upgrades.
[Xoom General] jland22:
Keeping my xoom. If i was looking for a laptop replacement I may have gotten the Epad but since I bought the xoom for internet, media playback video/chat and games which are all amazing on the xoom, I have no reason to want the epad.

Working on a laptop and having windows 7 is what work should be used for not a tablet in my opinion. Xoom wins for me and have no regrets.
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
I mean if you don't have a problem with the Eee Pad's aesthetics, as I've said earlier, it will do everything the Xoom can for cheaper.

Some people are happy with their purchase tho. That's fine and there's something to say for everything the Xoom has.
[Xoom General] jland22:
Agreed. Im interested to see how the development community is with the epad as it is starting to take off on the xoom.

Just pointing out the fact from what ive read in this thread that not everyone is looking for a laptop replacement in a tablet.
[Xoom General] p2flol:
Yeah...... we'll see, I don't see myself returning the xoom anytime soon, I really don't like the way the transformer looks. Maybe it's better in person?, from the videos and pictures I just cannot stand it.

I have until july to return the xoom, plenty of time for real reviews once its live.
[Xoom General] keitht:
Not to mention walking into Best Buy to see for yourself. I want to keep my 3G and soon 4G from Verizon and my notification LED :)

Not sure why some get all upset with people considering returning the Xoom for Transformer. Ultimately, the more people that have a Honeycomb device the better for all of us. More apps and more competition regrading pricing. I don't see people getting upset when someone returns an HP PC for a Dell PC.
[Xoom General] rmmorse81:
I'm enjoying my xoom
[Xoom General] furyagain:
why people argue something like this?

Before I bought my wifi xoom I knew the other brand are releasing similar tablet

Buying This tablet is like getting a budget car

Between corolla, civic, mazda3, sentra,

Some of it has better style, some has cheaper price, some suppose to be better built car,

It is all depend on what you want.

My reason of getting xoom instead of the others,was completely base on my past experiencewith those brand.

I love motorola product especially my old milestone(droid), it is really well built, really solid.

Acer and as us are ok( own both brand notebook last year), don't like their fit and finish

Don't like samsung, I have the galaxy s vibrant now and i hate the light weight plastic decign.
[Xoom General] :
personally, i'm sold on google stock devices. and the xoom is it for now. i've had tons of issues with my samsung captivate. on paper, the captivate is awesome. but in practice i've seen random slowdowns and not to mention that i can get AOSP when its released instead of waiting for samsung to send to at&t and then getting the update. i'm still waiting to see more on the galaxy s2 vs whatever the next google phone is (after nexus s).