yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] konnspiracy:
Ads magpie for most reliable.

ginger yoshi for the cm extra stuff.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
if it is cm stuff you want then follow the firerat link on ADS's dropbox site

it is Magpie built into CM7

forget yoshi roms they are just binary mixes of old ezterry / cm with themes added

for A good stable ROM then look at Ezterry and ADS if you want built in apps2sd

for added functionality (cm) then COS or as mentioned above Magpie CM7 (which is over three weeks old now :eek:)

atm I'm using CM7 Magpie

It is not quite as snappy as ezterry/ADS but has all the extra CM features

I haven't tried COS yet but it looks to be a good mix of ezterry, magpie and cm and will no doubt be many times better than yoshi's because it is built from source and not just a mix of old binaries
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
so cos-ds then?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
yeah why not :D

like I said I havn't actually tried it myself yet

looking at the thread the latest versions may have some stability issues since the Magpie was added.

but tbh there is nothing stopping you from giving all four a spin

maybe try the CM7 Magpie first

reason being it will be the slowest but has the most features

I think that will give you a useful benchmark to compare with the other more lightweight roms

Its just a case of finding which features of CM you can live without

(but I think ADS will be adding in the dropdown powerwidget soon as Roalex has tipped Anddisa as to what is required )

That's the great thing with COS, ADS and Ez

they are all sharing to make things better

Yoshi is just Mixing up several pre-compiled roms.

There is no real development/innovation going on
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
yea thats what i was thinking that COS-DS might have some stability issues since its still in the nightly stages.

I was looking for something stable and fast.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dw9906:
By a long shot try COS-DS. Ive been running it awhile and its very stable. I dont know where anyone gets that it aint. Give it a try you wont be dissapointed.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guy8zv:
SuperAosp

Dream and Magic SuperAosp by Super @ Tmel & tolemaC is the best GINGERBREAD 2.3.3 Ron. Try it!

-Guy-

__________________

Phone: T-Mobile Fender

Radio: 2.22.28.25

SPL: 1.33.0013d

ROM: SuperAosp-ST@-DM-2.8.2

Kernel: Fender rattkings v1.2_2635.10M-test4

Recovery: RA-sapphire-v1.7.0G
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dilwaladoctor:
I have tried all of these Gingerbread Roms and all of them have their pros and cons....so it depends on the user's preference what he wants from the rom...

SPECIAL NOTE

: We all should be immensely thankful to all these developers who are spending their valuable time and energy in creating these roms free for us and keeping our old phones alive.

For stability....Andisa

For speed....Yoshi

For features....COS

For beauty.....SuperAOSP by Telomac

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT ITS MY OWN EXPERIENCE. IT CAN VARY FROM USER TO USER AND DEVICE TO DEVICE DEPENDING ON SETTINGS AND MODE OF USE.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phonghoangka:
i think Ginger Yoshi it faster than other , it's have 41% compcache hack and more , its also can use swap and two other isn't currently support ! , but CM Setting in COS-DS is bester and it's update alway :) , i hope in not so far , RomManager in COS-DS will complete

and sr about my poor english :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azrash:
all three roms support compcache and all you need is just a simple script to change the value of compcache used. install gscript, copy the script and run it

here is 32 compcache

swapoff /dev/block/ramzswap0
rzscontrol /dev/block/ramzswap0 --reset
rzscontrol /dev/block/ramzswap0 --disksize_kb=32576
rzscontrol /dev/block/ramzswap0 --init
swapon /dev/block/ramzswap0
free

you can change the figure to any value that suits you. :p

swap can be done using firerat's all in one patch

p/s:the increase compcache script can be found here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6762470&postcount=208
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] map_841:
pro COS-DS

+1 for COS-DS!

Use the latest release (04/21) for satisfying stability and speed.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dilwaladoctor:
Just a small correction....GingerYoshi RC7 (latest one) has

61% CompCache Hack

.....and that obviously makes it much faster than other gingerbread roms.:)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndDiSa:
No comment ...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
lol

obviously you don't have a clue
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
hey AndDiSa do you fancy adding a 100% compcache to your ROM?

more cc = faster !!!!!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4qu4rius:
that's an interesting staring point for the discussion.

I tried COS briefly and found it really slower than my CM 6.1-2708. I'm after speed & stability mostly. I'll be trying ADS this week then.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phonghoangka:
@azrash : thanks a lot man , i just discovery it , lol @@ , i'll try it , i love COS-DS but i never try that scrip before, i discovery it by you lol , and i can ask you some thing about this

Thanks a lot again :)

and hey , i can use this soft to replace that gscript , https://market.android.com/details?id=lv.n3o.swapper2&feature=search_result

tell my it's possible ?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phonghoangka:
are you kidding , 100% cc =)) lol , and how the ROM can running @@
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roalex:
COS uses zram rather then ramzswap ;)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azrash:
that software is for swap, the script that i provided was for compcache. Personally, i wont recommend swap, and i normally disable any compcache, much faster for me. all these hacks would strain your device, swap would degrade your sd card, and compcache would require higher cpu utilization

so all i need to do is change ramzswap0 to zram0? thanks!:p

swapoff /dev/block/zram0
rzscontrol /dev/block/zram0 --reset
rzscontrol /dev/block/zram0 --disksize_kb=32576
rzscontrol /dev/block/zram0 --init
swapon /dev/block/zram0
free

i did some reading and zram is virtual ram or compressed ram, while ramzwap is virtual swap disks, am i correct? thanks!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
+1 for SuperAosp, it is to my experience fast. All other are good as well.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
I'm deadly serious

we could do some very great hax and make cc 150% :eek:

bigger = better for sure
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phonghoangka:
So its possible ,but gscript is bester , i'm right ?

And how i can know the different between gscript and that soft , you can imagine it ? Hum
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phonghoangka:
Hardware of G1 has limit , i don't think its possible , right ?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dilwaladoctor:
sorry, but am i missing something here?:confused:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] konnspiracy:
Well a 100 percent compcache would mean every mb of ram would be compressed to 1/2.

You cant go over 100 percent, you would have to compress it further to like 3/4 and that would eat up even more cpu.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brut.all:
Of course, we could do! We could run compcache on top of another compache, so if you have e.g. 100MB of RAM and first compcache is set to 100%, then second compcache could use for example 150MB = 150% CC! I heard about some guy who ran 8 CC's simultaneously, each one inside another one and he got ~1GB of RAM on his G1! Now he's working on 9 CC's approach.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
but of course each cc will slow the thing down

which is why I don't use CC
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azrash:
lol do you any link to his experiment? im just curious to see how good the thing is working, lol thanks!:D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dilwaladoctor:
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/

hope this will explain my point.:rolleyes:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
you have no point

cc slows down your phone

compression is not free
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dilwaladoctor:
CC does use more CPU but compressing the files makes more ram free which in-turn increases the efficiency of the rom....Heavy CPU usage can be balanced by over-clocking.

Everything exists for a reason and existance of Compcache is not without a reason....

In the end,however, everyone is free to form his own opinion....:D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roalex:
not quite !

Check out the compcache in the rom :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
wrong!

CC was not created for Android

CC messes with Android's memory management, memory gets clogged up with redundant apps and your phone slows down

which is why you have to keep rebooting your stupid "lets make the cc really high because we don't know what we are doing" bin mixed rom.

revisit your decision to blindly follow the CC lemmings and try without it, your phone will perform better.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dilwaladoctor:
Lol.....calm down dude :D:D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
no need

I know I'm right and you simply lack understanding

it is up to you if you want to learn.

and don't take my word for it, read the tail end of the Sparksmod ROM thread

Sparksco initially advocated cc but then saw the light as did many of the sparksmod users.

Start by turning cc off and realise that even a poor bin mix rom runs better without it

choice is yours, I just flagged it for you.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yo9gnc:
i tried:

1)ADS_Magpie (or source orver gtranslate)

2)SuperAosp-ST@-DM-2.8.2 GINGERBREAD 2.3.3

3)[Gingerbread][GRI40][04/21/2011]COS-DS

in my opinion the note from 1 to 5 on how fast / how stable / how much customised is the rom :

1) 5/4/4

2) 5/5/5 (although there are some spanish stuff that are not translated and i`m affraid to press them in the menu :) )

3) 4/5/5

although on quadrant benchmark the best result will be on COS-ds and ADS_Magpie

i don`t mean to offend someone. and i do appreciate the effort of eachone of them.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dilwaladoctor:
I appreciate your gesture but Im not following Compcache thing blindly.....I have been experimenting with roms and I wont deny you that generally compcache is irrelevant....but for certain functions CC is a must...

The best example is that you cant play NEED FOR SPEED SHIFT on G1 with compcache off.......thats because its a huge file (its actually incompatible with original G1 and Magic in Android market).........you have to have high CC (like Yoshi's 61% ) and overclocked CPU (at 576 min.) to play it.....:D

Hope u understand my point......:D

Enjoy modding...u r good at it...:D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azrash:
did u used the same cc/swap/cpu setting when u tried all three of them?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
So which would u say was the best overalll?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
what other features does cod-ds have because everyone keeps mentioning it has the best features?

Oh and when do you think u guys are gonna come out with a final build?:)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yo9gnc:
yes. and i must add

that the roms were the old ones:

ADS_magpie-20110405-odexed-signed

COS-DS-full-04132011-signed

and

SuperAosp-ST@-DM-2.8.2

and that the settings were:

swap (partition 64)/ cc 0%/ cpu 176-528 on demand.

SuperAosp-ST@-DM-2.8.2 fits well on my demands (that`s not equal with "is better" :) )
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
buy an xperia play, hope you see my point.

you are recommending a ROM based on a tweak for a specialised application

and yes it is a tweak and not a hack

The framework supports any cc % , it is just the UI which limits the option

you can manually set the default CC by editing the build prop on any ROM

so again no reason to use a fail bin mix

but end of the day you need to save up your pocket money little boy.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
Whats the word on ezGingerbread ROM by ezterry?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
Again FR stop flamming Yoshi and his team, and pimping your magpie
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
I'm not FR but thanks for the compliment

I'm not flaming yoshi - it is what it is a - mix of binaries taken from other peoples work. If you want to correct me on that then go ahead and point out the innovation.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
Like you told Infinimint

lmao drag up post made weeks ago lmao you have been on xda as effdee for what 6 weeks now

Take your own advice FR and stfu, dont talk trash on Yoshi
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
It is solid

all the others have come from that code base
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
what about AOSP by ezterry?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
My best recommendation is try them out and get your own opinion all GB seem slow but set your animation and transition speeds to fast and it help's with all the roms being listed here accept the ones that do not include spare parts
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
cool I have a short sighted forum stalker :D

and you seem to have a problem reading the time, your post was not a couple of weeks old.

I'm not talking trash about Yoshi roms

like I said above Yoshi ROMs are binary mixes

if you think that is trash that is your interpretation

the fact is they are based on old versions of the current development and do not bring anything new.

tbh it is my opinion that they should be in the themes section.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
yea but i want to get advice from experts like you guys on which roms are good.

People have said a lot of good things about Aosp 2.2 by ezterry .
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
Hardly stalking that quote is from What forum? Wait could it have been a Yoshi Honeycomb forum yeah and I am what on yoshi's team of testers, thats right.

You are god and know everything.. yoshi's team is not worthy of the all mighty FR.

If his ROM's are so bad then why do so many people use and love them hmmm.. What has effdee created? Nothing but drama
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
you are obviously drunk

read your posts when you are sober

who is the drama queen?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
Ezterry's AOSP 2.2 is very good

it is minimalistic, which is what gives it its speed. but some hunger for the cm bling

guess it depends what you want

A phone that runs very well or a phone that lags a bit but is all blingy

like thdDude and I said earlier give them all a spin and find out what suits you
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
I have been using 2.3 since early January and never went back to Froyo, tbh i dont remember froyo being all that fast. I go back and forth Gingeryoshi and COS D/S. I have fashed ADS and EZginger but Prefer all the CM parts that come with Yoshis and COS. Benchmarking them all GingerYoshis is always highest score's but those dont mean all that much to me. It's a toss up for me between GingerYoshis and COS atm but I have 3 G1's and play allot. Thanks Craigslist
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
Non drinker here... What have you created?? Seriously ??? How is the kernel you were gonna have done in a couple weeks?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
I suppose I could start zipping up other peoples binaries and 'make my own rom'

as for the kernel no need, ezterry has a kernel without the drain.

read the forum, you will see that I have posted a couple of fixes here and there.

maybe I should do a metamorph, to save you from zipping yours up with every COS release.

seriously do you not get bored of doing that :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
Benchmarks from latest versions of GingerYoshi and COS D/S on my G1 with my settings funny scores are same but look closer at bottom and see differences in scoring

First Pic is COS D/S second is GingerYoshi Both current versions 04212011 and RC7
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tvall:
@Effdee and ThdDude

i have an idea. why dont you two just talk about that over pm or something and solve your issues there instead of having it all over the forums

now back on topic. i personally perfer ezGinger because of the lack of fancy stuff that often slows stuff down or adds more complexity that could break something. almost pure aosp :). i havent tried cos (yet. will probably test that soon) and im gonna test yoshi later to see what ThdDude is so obsessed with defending.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
cp -a /data/data/com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.advanced /dev/
rm -r /data/data/com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.advanced
ln -s /dev/com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.advanced /data/data/com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.advanced

benchmarks are so easy to fiddle

I find 400 is average

CM7 is around 360 - 370
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
wow I thanked you lmao.

Can we not fight?

Can you just not post anything about Yoshi accept you would not recommend his ROM?

As far as I know He compiles from source, The RC8 I am running I know is straight from CM source's among others.. You make it sound like he is using an old ezgb build and adding sh1t in, which he isn't. You don't like him or his team we all get that, why poke jabs and snide comments about stuff you really do not know for a fact?

And last no I do not want your help with my theme. I enjoy making fresh each build I load and dont mind posting link's. I dont use metamorph
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
I don't have a problem

ThdDude just gets all stroppy whenever I point out the yoshi roms are a mix of other peoples binaries

I don't care really if it works it works,
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tvall:
then maybe you should just stop talking about it?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
we are even on the thanks :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
another remember the GPL person. Don't talk trash on Yoshi's ROM if you do not know. Hardly a themed binary mess..

If you have nothing nice to say don't say it stop talking out of your sphincter...

Say I wont use GingerYoshi, you dont have to slander it..
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tvall:
ok... you dont have to get mad at me for saying i wont use it.... i have looked at it some. havent used it yet. ill do that tonight i guess. i just really dislike themed roms. and i like having access to source to see whats in it without guessing what binarys do
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
Well call me old fashioned. But I would at least try a ROM, before I would call it a themed Binary mess. I have loaded some messes in my time. Some people are scared to try things out I guess. I mean its really easy to wipe and reload. It's not like a ROM is going to break your phone. I have gotten to the point I don't even nandroid anymore and rarely do I wipe EXT. When I switch a ROM to test or play with I wipe BOOT, SYSTEM, CACHE, and DATA. There are free back up app's to reload all your apk's again. But going from GingerYoshi to COS to ADS without wiping ext was kinda nice all my apps stayed. I do like the addition of power widget to ADS playing with it now

This give's me hope for a CM7 for D/S though. I mean if they aren't going to release it for D/S why is work still being done?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tvall:
well... i am flashing yoshi right now. so i can know what its like before i make any comments about it. then going to test cos.

well i like how yoshi lets me turn of a ton of useless stuff on install :)

ginger yoshi has too much bloat (like cm). who would want to use that crazy amount of cc it has???

ill test cos tomorrow.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
Well that's great. I know you will enjoy them both
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
THanks. And your right i am kinda scared to flash ROMS cuz i dont wanna risk bricking my phone, but ima go for it and try to test these out.

i want a ROM with a mix of speed and some bling.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
GingerYoshi and COS D/S Full have the most bling and bench almost the same I am actually running both on 2 of my g1's and playing with adsmagpie on 3rd
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
Oh, ok then im going to flash cos-ds then, and ill see how it turns out, any major bugs? your prefered settings?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azrash:
if you want to test several roms, you can use switchrom from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=541183 youtube some video about it to help you understand how to use it. it is basically a script that allows multiple, and different nandroid backup, so once you feel like changing rom, open up console, store rom A using switchrom, do a superwipe, and then flash rom B, once you are done fiddling with rom B, you can store it and restore rom A, or try another rom. its a very simple script, try it out ;)

my general setting for my roms, lock home in memory, JIT on, no cc no swap
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Effdee:
interesting

why is that script needed when both RA and Clockwork do the same job?

27th July 2009

Last edited by devsk; 8th August 2009
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
cc10-18%, vm-16, Jit-on, dilth-off, and Home in memory
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
So what should i use the switchrom or clockwork, AMon RA?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azrash:
i know RA can do nandroid, but switchrom allows me to assign a name for each rom im testing, so i can do a switchrom -s cos0419 and switchrom -s 0421, lol, just easier for me so i dont get confused.

im not sure about clockword though, if there is a way to a nandroid with RA that can assign a name to it, i'll be glad if you can teach me how, thanks!:)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maxamillion:
ok i watched a video on switchrom, and its a built in feature on Amon Ra's Recovery 1.4 and up.

its actually really easy i am start using it.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hrk:
Excuse me for going Off-Topic, but I guess duty calls.

Let's see then... hmmm... search forums... ok... Ginger yoshi 1.0 RC7 (android 2.3.3) for 32b and 32a ^_^:

Huh?... ok... search again... who/what is this bonesy?... well, found it in the HTC Hero forums! [ROM-Alpha] Android 2.3.3 With Sense 2.1 SebastianFM 0.21.

...another port?! ... where is the original... oh, bonesy's put a link to SebastianFM's ROM, at least.

I don't have to search the forums this time, it's right here: [Rom][32A][6.35] sfm 0.30 (Android 2.3.3, new Sense) (21 April 2011)

So from what I read in their own threads, GingerYoshi is a binary ROM based upon another binary ROM for the HTC HERO which is based upon yet another binary port for the HTC MAGIC from the original HTC WILDFIRE S sources.

Looks like both effdee and ThDude were wrong.

EDIT: Thanks to effdee (and yoshua not giving proper credit/links and me finding the newest bonesy's ROM in place of the old one), bonesy's ROM is documented three posts below this, as a binary merge between ezTerry, Firer4t and Cyanogen's ROMs.

There's something else which ThDude got wrong, though, when he said "another remember the GPL person".

There's a sticky post ([ATTN - ALL ANDROID DEVS] General Public License) which is very clear to me:

You can like GPL, you can dislike GPL, you can tell your friends to use GPL, you can tell your friends not to use GPL.

I advise you don't tell people "another remember the GPL person", because you'll persuade them to report GPL violations as warez, as per fora rules.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yo9gnc:
nice post. when duty calls, there`s nothing you can do :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThdDude:
It is not a matter of like or dislike the GPL. If you search XDA I would bet over 80% of ROM's posted don't follow it and don't show sources. I only said that because of comments that he had posted in Ginger Yoshi thread "remember the GPL" was a direct quote. I wish everyone would/could follow all licensing rules.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roalex:
Having open source roms is good imo, imagine if EzTerry wasn't sharing and developing openly, the same goes for CM.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hrk:
Fine to me. "Duty over".

Just to hit the nail on the head: everyone CAN follow all licensing rules. If they don't, it's because they don't WANT. No excuses to that.