yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
Got my Epic in late december. If I was gonna be jealous of either I would have bought the evo. The shift came out under my 30 days so I coulda switched. No jealousy here. To each his own but I love my Epic.
[Epic 4G General] lovespancakes96:
I just kind of meant more like if you had to pick one of the two which one
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I currently feel I have the best phone on the market at the best price power month. I have not one reason to be jealous. I've been without a computer since February and the Epic has filled in just fine until I ordered my ideal computer.
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
If you ask me, the evo its better if you are not into rooting or messing with your phone, however with all the support we got here from our devs, the epic has become one of the best phones out there on the market
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
How is the evo better stock??? :confused::confused: :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
If I was jealous of either one, I would have bought an EVO not an Epic. It's not like owning an EVO requires some sort of exclusive membership. Lol

Out of the current available Sprint phones, if Epic wasn't an option, I'd get an EVO.
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
Well minus the hardware, the evo is better because there were so many issues on the epic that samsung can't seem to fix. I've managed to install the keyboard fix and the rotation fix and get rid of touch wiz and now I fell in love with my phone. It runs flawlessly

Sent from my rooted SFR vision kernel themed EC05 Epic 4g
[Epic 4G General] king5697:
I had an EVO and immediately got rid of it once I compared its screen to the Epics. Better Processor, keyboard, better camera....I don't feel jealous, I feel sorry for EVo owners, but different strokes for different folks.
[Epic 4G General] mikey80021:
If I had to downgrade, I would probably go evo. My wife has the shift, and my bro in law has the evo. I like me some FFC.
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
Games epic FTW. That and one of the guys at work has an evo and with the case on it he looks like he's talkin on a damn Tablet.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I think he asked in the wrong section if he didn't want a "biased" opinion.

Sent from my always stock, EC05 Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
There's really no need to defend this phone. But I'll say that I am jealous of no other phone or service on the market. Even when it still ran Eclair, the Epic was awesome. Leagues more powerful and versatile than any other phone I've ever used, although I never was interested in the iJesusPhone.

It's only gotten better over time as I've built its app ecosystem and updated/tweaked it. Plus it's 4G, which puts it in a still-relatively elite small group.

I paid a high contract price but feel like I've gotten every penny's worth. I don't need to tear down the Evo or any other phone, I'm just thoroughly satisfied with what I have. It's not perfect, but it is great.

I just wish I could get to the point where I start taking it for granted. It still impresses me too much for that.
[Epic 4G General] b15love:
guys relax. he's a kid and probably only 15. kid, buy epic, no htc. ok?
[Epic 4G General] professoroak:
In all honesty, the only thing I'm jealous of is the HUGE amount of developing going on for the Evo. They have complete versions of CM7, MIUI, and like a billion other ROMs and Kernels... but that's it. The Epic still blows em away performance-wise regardless of the Evo having more roms (I just have ORD..). Both my parents have the Evo, and I actually flashed CM7 on my mom's, but my Epic still wins. :)
[Epic 4G General] tenaciousj:
Only thing IMO Evo has over the Epic.

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] G.I.Geoff:
I am not jealous. The Evo is Better than the Evo shift. But I prefer the Epic over the Evo any day. Are you more jealous of my dad's old Chevelle SS 68' (i miss that car), or My neighbor's 68' Shelby Mustang GT?
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Epic all day... those phones are not in the same league hardware wise... as for developement I believe the term "less is more" actually applies here

Now if there only was a way to tighten the damn slider...
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Solution for loose slider is brick it then get a new one I have no Loos slider on my new one :)

Sent from my Epic 4.0.1g bonsai plant
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
Just played around with an evo at work. No thanx I'll keep my Epic if I can get the evo owner to give it back.;-)
[Epic 4G General] Wildheathen0341:
My ex owns the Evo 4G and I had time to play with it awhile and I myself had purchased the Evo Shift and I have to say that their is no reason why any Epic owner should envy either. If I had to choose between either Evo it would be the Shift only because of the great keyboard and better battery life but the Epic more than holds its own against the two. I gave my Evo Shift to my son and went back to my Epic if that tells you anything.
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
Alright let's talk jealousy. I'm jealous of my buddies shift because..

A. No infinite sending issue

B. Better reception

C. Better gps chip

Everything else if pass on lol but then again this is why I can't wait to get and sgs2 or at the least pick up a nexus s to solve all those problems.
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
I've been thinking of doing this. I bricked my first epic and got it swapped no problem but I got a refurbished unit in return. Which works perfectly except for my screen lifting slightly on the left and if I had to put my finger on it i think my nand maybe going bad. Also my touch screen becomes unresponsive at weird times. Like the k button on the onscreen kb just stops working. I experience little quirks in performance here and there even at 1.2 jiggawatts. Anywho i think the easiest way to achieve a brick is by doing some odin flashing and pulling the usb cable during. I just want to be unit of maybe I can convince customers service to get me in a nexus s :)
[Epic 4G General] CTronPrime:
This made me rofl. Which was mildly embarrassing on a public bus....

But in all seriousness... if you wanted an "unbiased" opinion... go ask someone who doesn't even have a smartphone.

Im calling trollolol. I know of some nice bridges nearby for you. :]
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gavstan79:
I am stuck on the htc logo and can't enter recovery, is there any other way to get into recovery to clear the cache as i have tried flashing a ruu and making a gold card, all to no avail.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Meaple:
... press volume down + power when the phone is turned off. Then select recovery.

Sent from CM7
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gavstan79:
can't get into recovery on htc desire

yeah tried that just goes back to the htc screen.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Meaple:
Send it to HTC then.

Sent from CM7
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] status_six:
Would it work to try flashing the recovery from adb and then going from there?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=852905
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moscow Desire:
Took the words out of my mouth :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gurman13o:
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!

That may work
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lugiber:
Well, it does seem we didn't have to wait that long.

I have just tested the 8500 froyo pre-release on the 8300 and everything works except for the gyro. This means that the screen is always displayed in portrait.

I know, thats not good on a phone designed to display in landscape. But hopefully someone will port the gyro drivers from the 2.6.29 kernel and we'll have a real improvement on our hands! Or someone will find a solution that forces landscape, which is almost as good.

You'll find the instructions on installing froyo here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=942971

And rooting here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=966624

This is surely a treat!

And if someone has any working solution for the "landscape" problems please let me know on this thread. I'll keep looking for a solution.

/Peter

Edit:

Oh, yeah, forgot one thing. The initial splash screen looks terrible (green background with a blue and red square), so if someone has any idea on how to change that for a nice xda logo or something. I would be most greatful!

Doesn't seem like gps is working either...

/Edit
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lugiber:
Well, i can't do any programming. But some things i can acutally improve.

It seems that the keyboard layout that came with the 8500 doesn't match the layout on the 8300.

So here's an updated keyboard layout. Just replace the file named:

qwerty.kcm.bin

located in:

/system/usr/keychars/

With the one attached to this post. Root explorer will (apparently) do that for you. I haven't tried doing it with root exporer (did it with adb). But i have tested the keyboard layout and it works just fine.

Hope that helps anyone!

Please let me know if you have any problems installing replacing the file!

/Peter

Oh yeah, almost forgot, adw launcher lets you set the layout (portrait) of your desktop screens. Thats at least a little help.

edit

Forgot again... The source for 8500 is available on the huawei download site.

http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwi...d=list&flay=software&directoryId=20&treeId=0#

/edit
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Gaz14:
I flashed this rom, had alot of trouble with phone connection and such

did a nand backup using recovery-RA-pulsemini-v1.6.2.img reflashed my Boost stock updata.app then restored the nand backup, everything is working great and i have the Boost mobile splash instead of the odd one, didn't fix the gyro though

edit: GPS seems to be working fine, so fixing the gyro or a locked landscape mode is the only bug left.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] switchblade88:
I'll be following this thread very closely, with any results I get I'll be sharing them here.

I can't seem to get USB debug to work, it's either a CD emulator with the Huawei device programs or mounting the SD card. Anyone else having this issue, or is there a workaround?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] switchblade88:
OK, some progress; I've just rooted using z4root (sideload) and it appears to be working - Just backed up apps and settings with Titanium Backup.

I just downloaded the stock U8300 so now I've got something to fall back on in case of emergency. It's not listed on the Huawei website though.

So now forwards, to Froyo!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] switchblade88:
Current progress:

Downloaded U8500 Froyo ROM and installed as per instructions above, twice.

Rooted with Z4Root installed from my SD card.

Had trouble trying to get the keyboard settings over; I tried using Ghost Commander to copy it into place with root access without success. Any other options, lugiber?

I'm not really interested in using Android Dev programs, nor buying apps... is it possible to use terminal commands to copy it into place instead?

Still got the sideways screen issue as expected. GPS works, Wifi works, gyro and compass work somewhat (even the original U8300 caused some issues with North to the 'right' of the phone ie 90degrees off).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Gaz14:
google root explorer apk download it to your sd card, install it and just remember to mount the file system as rw, theres a button at the top in root explorer then copy it over
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] switchblade88:
Hmmm, no dice.

Clicked 'mount R/W' but still said /system/usr/keychrs directory didn't have permissions, tried editing manually which didn't apply either.

Are there any other similar ROMs (eg CM6 or the like) that may also be closely compatible? i can put up with the keyboard until I get the screen rotate working, and I read somewhere that some has done so... I'll get back if it works.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] switchblade88:
I just received and email from Huawei saying they have now released the source code for the U8300 on their website!! It's the eclair kernel, I presume; I haven't downloaded it to check yet.

They also have the 'Normal' (presumably generic) Froyo source code there too, if that is useful to anyone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xZabuza:
hi

anyone have fix the portrait problem ?

cuz this is really annoying for me...

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xZabuza:
Hi

is this rom in landscape mode?:confused:

Ty
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mgiammarco:
Speed?

Hello,

I am interested too in landscape mode.

But I am more interested in speed: is it faster than stock firmware?

Thanks in advance!

Mario
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] trevh:
ICS - Android 4 - Ice Cream Sandwich on U8300

Anyone know if ICS - Android 4 - Ice Cream Sandwich is going to work on our U8300?

Will the trick of using the U8500 rom work, IF it gets the new rom?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mattig:
does someone stil use this rom?

i want to try it but links don't work...can someone help me?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] MRCANNADY:
Hey Xoomers! (sounds cool huh) the Tegra store has just released a game called Great Battles Medieval which i am downloading right now for $6.99...I cant stress how badly we need some good games for andriod, notably our Xoom tablets. Lets show support fpr our tablets by buying and not bootlegging these apps...some developers are now interested in Android, but if we show them know support, why would they continue. I will let you all know how the game is
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Legato525:
A 700 dollar game?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Instien:
It's actually on 6.99$
[Xoom Themes and Apps] cesarcerros31:
Please tell me you mean to say 6.99

sent from my Motorola XOOM
[Xoom Themes and Apps] MRCANNADY:
oh shoot, I meant $6.99..sorry! :)
[Xoom Themes and Apps] MRCANNADY:
So far, have to admit, the game SUCKS!!! Im praying that it gets better with more play through...but i don't mind spending $6.00 to garner more game support from developers.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] LegionTHEFecalExcretion:
HURRAY!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Instien:
I'm actually enjoying it so far. Then again, i'm sure once there is a bigger variety, this one will be put away onto the shelf of shame, along with all the others.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] epakrat75:
These are the kind of useless comments I see all over the market (and elsewhere) for various apps. While limited for space there, here that is not the case. Why not say this AND then expound on why? Also, if you can articulate why, then sending the developer an email (in addition to this post) might even get (some of) your issues taken care of? :confused:
[Xoom Themes and Apps] vamp6x6x6x:
I fully agree, but sadly this isn't really my kind of game...But, I did buy Fruit Ninja THD, and will probley end up buying Riptide GP.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StereoD:
Hello my gtab hangs on in bootscreen of tapntap, I can do to fix it? I have the stock rom
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebadfrog:
Sorry....this makes zero sense
[Xoom General] MRCANNADY:
Hey Xoomers!! We all know this, but its worth repeating...some developers are now showing interest in Android/honeycomb tablets...but in order to keep that support, and to get Ipad quality games and developers on board, we must SUPPORT these developers by actually buying their games and apps and stop the bootlegging!! I know it can be tempting, but why would developers want to Support Android if we are not paying..they would just continue to support Apple..and we will be left with powerful devices with no great games or apps to show for it...Lets show Apple that Android is the new king of the block!!!
[Xoom General] cesarcerros31:
Agree with you lets unleash the beast off this tegra

sent from my Motorola XOOM
[Xoom General] Scourge1024:
I want Square Enix on board. I've gotta play Chaos Rings, Final Fantasy 1,2 and 3 on my iPhone... :( Chaos Rings was a pretty neat mobile RPG.
[Xoom General] MRCANNADY:
i just purchased The History great battles medieval, which i have to say looks pretty ugly lol!! But still I dont mind spending the $6.00 bucks, i might like it later :) But the more support we actually show, the more developers will jump on board, and create better looking games for Tegra. I would love to play resident evil Zombies, need for Speed hot pursuit on our amazing Xoom devices, but its up to us to show that its worth making games for Android. So if we can spend $5.00 on things we don't need, surely we can spend the money to help benefit us as Xoom owners in the long run!!
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
I've always paid for my apps. Any lack of developer interest because of bootlegging isn't in any way because of me. Its worth noting that even having to post this speaks volumes of the mindset of "general android users" and gives ios devs that much more fuel.
[Xoom General] MRCANNADY:
i disagree with your statement..regardless if i posted this or not, developers have already mentioned the fact that bootlegging is a problem with Android owners in general. We have to show developers that we are serious about supporting them. So it's good to show that we are committed to buying apps/games, and that developers will be rewarded for taking the time to develop for us. if we acknowledge the problem and speak about about it, hopefully that will get people on board if they want the better-quality games for Android!
[Xoom General] blackbeltrk:
Apple has alot of bootlegging. its just as easy to get a paid app for free on ios devices, as it is on android. I think apple devices have more apps because their is more people to use the product. And devs only have to make it for th Device iPhone Ipad ect. But with anroid you have a little harder time because everything has the android os on it samsung HTC motorola ect.
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
Ask an ios developer who also produces a like android app which generates more revenue and which gets stolen more.
[Xoom General] KerryG:
This is the same argument software developers have had literally for decades. I used to be a producer at a major gaming company and we always claimed that pirating cost us millions of dollars a year. The fact is that it is completely unprovable that there is any loss of revenue at all. If you make an absolutely awesome state-of-the-art game with absolutely unbreakable copy protection you will sell x number of units. If you sell the same game with no copy protection you will still sell x number of units but a bunch of people who didn't pay for it will get it as well because its easy to copy. So regardless, you still make the same amount of money, but you spent a lot more on the DRM licenses so you actually made less profit in the end.

With Android, the number of people who root their device and install pirated apk's is a hugely insignificant number to the overall Android user base, most estimates put it so low that it isnt even trackable. If you choose to not develop for a platform because of pirating, you are throwing money away.
[Xoom General] chbennett:
I second the notion of supporting devs, but priacy isn't the primary problem. The biggest problem is market share and time on market. As both of those increase, they will no longer be an issue. This said, it wouldn't hurt to try and cut down priacy and maybe for a free app with a donation option somewhere, use it if its a good app. (Not always obviously, but sometimes is a great start.)

Sent from my Xoom the way it should be, rooted and with SD card.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
Appealing to people's better nature is about the same as asking for donations. You aren't gonna get too far.

I think the best anti-piracy approach isn't DRM, but to convert it to a service. You can't pirate a MMOG. Not all software can be tailored to this, but most can, especially in this age of 24x7 connectivity. Software is heading in this direction already, with SaS and of course Da Klowd.

The tough cookie is how to extend the SaS model to media, viz movies and music, given their fundamentally "offline" nature of consumption.

Perhaps the way forward for the movie/music industry is to wrap them in software, eg make them interactive. Say, a piece of music can be played at varying tempo of your choosing, or it can be auto-remixed using templates, or it can be sweetened depending on your mood, etc.

Interactive movie is a tougher row to hoe, since movie watching is mainly a linear experience. But once animation gets to the point of achieving photo-realism, then a movie can conceivably be constructed like a game.

A major weakness of games thus far is lack of pathos. It's hard to be scared, or feel sad or joy, when playing a computer game, as opposed to watching a good movie. Perhaps a movie-game hybrid, with real human actors in intermixed sequences, will achieve this.
[Xoom General] gogol:
I disagree with you. The post by the OP is something like "encouragement" to give MORE SUPPORT to Android developer.

1. To talk more about Android apps to friends and family

2. To contact particular apps developer to create Honeycomb version of their Android apps

3. To contact iOS developers to port their product to Android Honeycomb

4. To create great detailed reviews of Android Honeycomb apps / games and spread the word
[Xoom General] gogol:
Agree ...

The thing is for people who do not want to buy, they will not buy anyway.

This kind of thing is mentality. No matter what, they will always find away to pirate.

What I always do here at my work is to promote and specifically tell all my friends about Android apps and why they should not pirate them (some of them do pirating).

Come on, the price is not expensive! Really not expensive! I cannot believe people risking their phone by installing illegal version for something worth like $1 or $2.

However, I would love to have options to PERMANENTLY REMOVE / DELETE certain apps from my Google Checkout account!

Yes, not all apps are good ... Sometimes, I regret that I bought "that" app. And now, it is listed in my Google Checkout account :(

I could do some kind of "donation" by buying "any" good apps or ported apps from iOS, once a month for example :D I will do this to give support to Android devs. But yeah, I don't do this now because I hate to have long list in my Android Market purchased apps list.
[Xoom General] MRCANNADY:
Thank you guys for understanding my post. I think Android wants Honeycomb to be more *centralized* like Apple..meaning that developers won't have to worry about making different versions of apps n games since most tabs running honeycomb will have the same base specs. We need let devs know that we are serious about supporting them...The Android family will or has already outgrown Apples fan base..so developers can make money from us but they need to know that most of us will buy their products. You never know who's reading these forums. :)
[Xoom General] tumbes20000:
I have no idea whether there is a lot or a little piracy on android phones. Unfortunately there will always be a segment of any group willing to justify stealing products or information. Some groups worse than others. My guess that at least on this forum people understand what goes into making an app and respect that. Now being in the video game industry I can attest to piracy especially on the pc. It gets to the point where its almost pointless to produce a variant of a console game on pc. If the drm is too restrictive you get blasted all over th internet. If you don't put a really restrictive drm on them every pc owner wil have bit torrented your game. Very frustrating.

In any case, that does not seem to be the case with android. I think the best formula is to provide a free version to test with limited functionality and sell a full version so the people who want all of the features can get them and support the app devs. Such as docs to go. So long as the programs stay relatively cheaper there not be much incentive pirate.