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[T-Mobile LG G2x] south69_dallas:
g2x rocks

cant wait to get mine! sensation is 2 big....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rafarataneneces:
Has anybody bought the phone yet?

Any news about encrypted bootloader (making it impossible to root)

Without ROOT = NO CLIENT

Simple as that

If I can root the phone, then I'd like to buy it

At the end of the day, having a better resolution screen, having more RAM is a big advantage for me
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul22000:
HTC will no longer lock any phones from here on out.

They've stated they will send an update for the Sensation to unlock it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rafarataneneces:
I bought my G2X months ago

I'm still waiting for "THE UPDATE" hahaha

Phones sell for a lot of $$$

So companies try to delay updates as much as they can, so that then you can buy the new phones... it's bad for end-users

That's why ROMs are so popular and needed

Personally, if I can't ROOT the phone, I think I'm going to pass on this one

I need to wait one week before I make my decision, more accessories for G2X and keep the phone, or jump into HTC

I like being root, I can uninstall a lot of bloatware and make my phone faster

I can use Autorun Manager and disable an insane amount of swtiches in programs (like auto-run, auto-trigger)...

it's insane the amount of apps that start automatically when WiFI changes, screen off/on, ON BOOT, after call, after email...

even Bible was loading automatically every 10 minutes on my G2X

I have 400 apps but only 10-12 run automatically

so my phone is nice ;)

And I kept the Bible app ;)

But without root, man this would be a nightmare
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul22000:
I hope you're not using a task killer? :)

http://phandroid.com/2011/06/16/android-psa-stop-using-task-killer-apps-now/
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rafarataneneces:
I use Advanced Task Cleaner Pro, the best one there is for my use

I use Task XP too, close them manually

I also use Auto Memory Manager, or whatever the name is, to make sure I set high values for auto-kill properties (this is the way Android deals with auto-closing apps, foreground, background, services...)

But the most important thing for me is use Autorun Manager and disable all those switches

1) Go to Android Market

2) Install 10-20 apps

3) see how they start automatically every now and then

With Autoron Manager, I can disable everything and I understand A LOT of the problems with RAM now, and why Android is so inefficient at this

With 768 MB of RAM, using Android would be NICE! :)

BUT ONLY IF I have permanent Root access
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul22000:
This doesn't matter with Android...

If you don't understand why, re-read the post I linked, as well as this one:

FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android

:)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rafarataneneces:
Anyway, my point is, I like to use ROOT, and I'd like to buy the sensation IF I CAN ROOT the phone

So I'm subscribing here and would like to stop this argument, you think Android does a GREAT job and auto-managing apps, I think it's the WORST job I've EVER seen, so we have two different point of views

In the page you mentioned I read that Android "shuts down the process when it's no longer needed"

THIS is NOT true!!I make you a deal

1) I read all the article

2) you download Autorun Manager, and disable a few triggers/switches, whatever the name is

Android designates a "priority" and tries to use AS MUCH RAM AS POSSIBLE

I've studied how it works

I like to have as MUCH FREE RAM as possible ;)

Currently on G2X with 400 apps I have usually 200MB free RAM

I need that ram when using Dolphin to browse the web

I like to manage things/programs on my own since I'm an expert and I do not follow that philosophy of "empty RAM is wasted RAM"

MORE APPS RUNNING = BATTERY DRAINS FASTER

That is what I've learned so far ;)

I read the article now

I have all these apps open yet they're all using 0% CPU. And I have "only" 47 MB free

Good luck browsing the web and browsing a site that uses flash/video in HD with that amount of free RAM ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul22000:
Why?

A phone with 400 MB free runs absolutely no better than one with 100 MB free.

A challenge: try not using your task killers for a 2-3 days and report back how much worse it is... ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rafarataneneces:
Paul22000

We can go back and forth but I think differently

MY point is, I will buy the phone IF AND ONLY IF I can root it

I love disabling triggers in Autorun Manager, it's addictive the power/control you have over anything

Right now I have 200MB of free RAM, try going to ABC.com and load the flash video player and watch a show in HD with full flash support & advertisement. Try doing that with 40MB of free RAM.

Anyway, If you like Android's way of auto-using apps, fine

Personally, I won't buy a phone if I lose that control that I currently have on G2X
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul22000:
Haha yeah probably.

Alright. Well, if you have a G2x and don't have any problems with it (rebooting, screen bleed, etc) then stick with it -- that is at least until HTC releases the unlock update OR someone on XDA figures out a way to root it :cool:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rafarataneneces:
Yeah

If they ROOT the phone within 4-6 weeks I guess I'd buy one
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul22000:
BTW I should definitely mention that Watchdog Task Manager is free today only from the amazon appstore:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004JKQP92
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Beyondcr:
Ok its been about 3 months from the last post. I don't like resurrecting dead post but at the same time I am kinda scared to create a new threat after watching that noob video... So here it is, I am pounding my head on the table trying to figure which out of the two phones to get, and seeing how both phones had some time to mature and people are running cm7 on the G2X I have a few questions.

How's the GPS performance? Dose it have a hard time locking or finding location on either phone?

The audio jack output how is the sound quality to a receiver? I know my Nexus one is mid par compared to a few other devices I have tried in the past.

How's the wifi performance is distance better on one model to another?

Is the sensation still lagy or was that taking care of in a update?

If I can recall the G2X has a 72hz refresh rate... I cannot recall anyone ever saying what the sensation's was.

Build quality? Will they survive drops? my N1 survived many drops and screen still looks like the day I bought it back in January of 2010.

And last but not least cell tower quality better bars on one to the other?

I do not care much of what the phone looks like they are both nice in my book, nor do I care if one is a few milliseconds faster then the other. I want something that will hold up for the next year and a half to two years as I have to use it everyday. I still love my N1 but I am just ready for a upgrade. Both phones will cost me $300 each so cost is not a factor. I am becoming to think I should just flip a coin and go with it, But I would like some more input before I make the final decision.

Thanks for your time.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kabuk1:
Well, I can't really compare the two b/c I only have the sensation, but I can tell you that it has some issues that would make me kinda hesitant to recommend it. I was just about to post a question in this forums about a G2X/sensation comparison b/c I might be getting a G2X if my replacement Sensation has the same problems my first one has. There's some real issues with the sensation. I had to order a replacement phone due to serious bluetooth problems(can't get more than a few feet from the phone w/o it cutting out) caused by the "death grip" issue.

Problems aside, it's a nice phone. Gorgeous screen, great camera, and it's pretty fast but it is definitely laggy at times. I have a custom rom on it so I dunno about the update.

Battery life could def be better, I had to buy an extended battery just to get through the day. Sometimes it gets hot too.

GPS performance is pretty good, but YMMV depending on what rom you use. CM7 support is in it's absolute infancy right now so don't expect to be running nightlies or even anything stable on it for a while yet.

Build quality could def be better too- the sensation has issues with dust getting under the digitizer & wifi/BT quality b/c the back cover functions as the antenna for both. If you hold it a certain way both signals will either drop or cut out. I would imagine that the G2X would win the Wi-fi & BT usability contest.

Lastly, I've never dropped mine so I can't tell you how tough it is.

Good luck with whatever you choose. As for me, I really wanted to love the sensation but I'm kinda leaning toward the G2X at this point. T-Mo offered me either another sensation or a G2X & I have a feeling that I'll end up with the latter in the end. I'm drawn by the better front facing camera, the lack of Sense UI, and the lack of a craptastic antenna design.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Beyondcr:
Wow sorry that you have problems with the sensation, I think I am going to take a shot and go for the g2x, I love HTC but LG has come along way in the past few years with their tv's I just hope its the same with their phones.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sarni84:
Hey guys coming from both phones (still have my g2x) absolutely love it u guys will like the g2x believe me wifi and Bluetooth never ever cut out for me. I can be 50 feet outside my house and still have wifi signal, I will gladly post a video too not trying to cap u guys up just being honest now when I had the sensation it was OK but I had the same problems as the guy two posts ago and it sucked I couldn't leave the room without wifi disconnecting anyways only thing the sensation had on g2x was snapping pics faster that's it! The g2x actually won best camera in smartphone this yr by electronista u can Google that and find info on that. And the g2x's ips screen I think IMO is just as nice as sensation I actually think contrast is better and it is definitely faster then sensation we have stable nightlys pretty much now (cm) and it is the BEST gaming phone so yea I love the g2x only thing I can say guys is go to T-Mobile n mess around with the phones:)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kabuk1:
I'm actually a girl, lol... but I'm glad to know it's not just me that had Sensation woes. My replacement should be here any hour now & I'm fully prepared to send it back & get a G2X now after reading your opinions. So disappointed, I really wanted to love that phone & I'm pissed cause I bought SO MANY accessories for it :/
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Steeltippin:
Not trying to thread jack, but has anybody heard rather or not the Hercules or Ruby will have a Tegra 2 chip like the G2x? God I love the gaming side of thing with this phone, but the constant sleep of death and reboot issues I've had are getting on my damn nerves. I haven't swapped it out yet, but I will prob here soon. I actually do love the phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kabuk1:
The Hercules will have a Qualcomm chip, AFAIK.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sarni84:
Lol sorry and yes I definitely see u are a girl lol anyways I think if u go with the g2x u will like it like I said great phone

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U need to take that thing back!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] gratcliffe:
I would not purchase the g2x again. I am on my third phone and I still have problems. It force restarts every day. The battery life is horrible, and once you start adding apps, it start to really get slow and picky. For instance, if you make a call, it appears to dial but never connects. I will never purchase another LG product. This phone really sucks.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] scrizz:
lol, I haven't had any problems with mine.

:D

rocking MIUI
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kwes1020:
I have had my g2x since Monday and I love it. I hada vibrant for a year. After the vibrant I have learned my lesson and will not buy another Samsung Tmobile phone unless its a nexus.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tokimaromi:
you guys scare me all the time with these comments haha. makes me feel like i made the wrong decision, but my g2x will be here on monday and i'm just praying i get a working one
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Beyondcr:
Ok, So I went with all the reviews and took the chance for the G2X, This thing just crushes every phone and tablet I ever touched, I sold my Acer Iconia A500 for it and I have no regrets doing so. The wifi works better then my n1,

The 3.5 jack hooked into my car receiver produces great stereo separation and very very clear sound it is actually the best sounding device I ever had hooked to my car's system I just love it.

I Have yet to try the Bluetooth functions as I don't really care for Bluetooth.

The navigation is great it finds the GPS signal almost instantly.

The camera is clear and recording at 1080 on a phone is just mind blowing.

I love the glass feel on the screen I don't think I will be putting any plastic covers over it.

Power button is at the right spot and the volume controls are nice.

The speed of the phone is just insane, Sure you will have a few hiccups once and a great while every operating system I ever used did, so it is to be expected. Although I did not have any crashes or applications stop responding yet.

The display is sweet, very bright, So bright that I recommend turning the brightness down to 10% for the first week or so to give the screen time to break in that way you will have a less a chance of getting the bleed through like people complain about.

The reviews make the G2X seem like it is soooo close to tieing with the sensation but the sensation always come out a few points ahead...

IMO the HTC sensation would have to work really hard to make me choose it over the G2X after having this thing in my hands and I don't care if it were faster or had a nicer looking GUI as once I put CM on it there will be no need.

Good luck and make sure you do get a G2X with no problems even if you have to return it 20 times it is worth it!

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WTH Dude it says you joined back in 2009??? you waited this long just to say the G2X sucks? LMAO
[T-Mobile LG G2x] chisleu:
My sig says it all. Sensation has **** loads of problems.

Wait for the galaxy 2s varient if you want something with a bigger screen.

<3 my g2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kabuk1:
Got my replacement Sensation a few hours ago, and it's no different than the first one. Same exact ****ty bluetooth. God this pisses me off to no end. How could HTC release this phone with so many glaring flaws? Did they not even test it first? Did they think nobody would notice a bluetooth range of 6 FEET?!

*sigh*

I don't wanna go through the hassle of another exchange, but I just cannot have bad bluetooth, I use it way too much. I have easily spent well over $100 on accessories for this phone over the past couple months and they're all gonna be useless now. Such a waste >:{ That alone makes me hesitant to exchange it, I almost wanna just deal with it & use headphones. Ugh I'm so torn right now. I guess I'm gonna go to a T-Mo store tomorrow & play with a G2X & compare it to my phone & see which one wins. To those of you who had a sensation & moved to a G2X- is the slightly smaller screen size all THAT noticeable? Do you find yourself wishing it was larger? Also, I've heard that the camera on the sensation is just a little bit better, is that true? And how does the G2X's single LED flash hold up next to the dual-LED on the S?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Beyondcr:
I will play with the Bluetooth functions tomorrow and let you know how it works. I seen alot of sample videos of video quality on youtube and every one I seen the G2X looked better. go check it out find some g2x video samples then some sensations video samples. I think the only thing the sensation has is the instant photo which is no big deal I rather have a better picture over a quicker one.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
I just pm'ed you
[T-Mobile LG G2x] scrizz:
nah, I actually find that 4 is the perfect size imho. G2x and Galaxy s have the perfect screen size.

Plus the glass, OMFG, it's very nice.

The buttons are clicky enough.

The camera is nice, although all these cameras suck compared to the Nokia N8 I had.

No lag, nada.

etc.....

:D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] pioneers2001:
Size

I personally like the size of the G2x better. These phones are just getting so massive that they begin to be awkward in your hand. The Sensation does look like a nice phone though, I was having a big debate on switching to that instead. But I do like the stock android the G2x comes with, HTC adds too much stuff to bog it down.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] FatalityBoyZahy:
G2x <3
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BIGWORM:
I went from the 4.3" screen of the EVO to the 4.0" screen of the G2x, and let me tell you, I didn't notice that big of a difference. 4" is the perfect size for me.

*edit* Also, since Kabuk was wondering, I didn't notice a difference in brightness with the G2x from the EVO, which is dual-LED (the EVO). Even though the G2x only has one LED, it's much bigger, almost twice the size of one of the EVO's LEDs...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Celatino:
G2X ehh, Waiting for Hercules

I got the G2X, overall solid phone if you have root and Custom ROM. I usually have connection loss, don't know if thats tmobile or the phone. I seldomly have 4g (H) which sucks butt but I'm living with it. Thinking about flashing another radio. The new sim made it a lil better....buts still disconnects and mostly 2g. Im selling the phone and getting the hercules when that comes out.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jcaf77:
G2X in my opinion, I dont like sense and htc seems to always struggle with battery life
[T-Mobile LG G2x] pottyvick:
I came from the evo too. So far love the g2x. And he has a point. I have not noticed a difference in the screen sizes. I forgot the evo was bigger til I read this :).

One thing I do miss is all the roms available for the evo. The g2x doesnt have many but what it does have is stability.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ckjy:
Having used both a G2X and a Sensation, I can say that the G2X is a bit snappier (software issues aside) due to its stock nature.

However, with CM7/AOSP Roms now becoming available for the Sensation, any improvements benefits the G2X has due to stock are moot. Alpha versions of CM7 on the Sensation are breaking quadrant scores of 3000 with a stock user-experience at least equal to the G2X.

So software/ROM aside, the difference now is entirely hardware. The Sensation is marginally wider and more noticeably heavier than the G2X. The G2X has the IPS display but ultimately about the same PPI as the Sensation due to the Sensation's higher resolution.

The G2X has the Tegra2 core that will ultimately give better GPU performance but there aren't really any games or applications that tax this architecture.

G2X speaker quality is generally accepted to be louder and clearer than the Sensation. You can turn up the volume on the sensation with apps like Volume+, but doesn't replace the G2X's physically larger speakers.

Personally, I found the higher resolution of the Sensation alone to be worth a premium over the G2X, though. While you can always change the LCD density on the G2X to achieve a similar look, the web browsing experience and general user experience feels more spacious on the Sensation.

Web pages that might require side-scrolling to view on the G2X are fully visible on the Sensation. An additional e-mail row in the GMail app can be seen in the Sensation over the G2X, and other applications scale well to make use of the extra space.

So, the extra space alone makes the Sensation worthwhile to me over the G2X's other benefits.

TLDR;

CM7/AOSP roms for the Sensation make the fact that the G2X has stock android a moot point. Your decision should be based on the hardware of the two phones.

G2X pros:

-G2X's Tegra2 architecture has better GPU performance potential.

-G2X is marginally slimmer and noticeably lighter than the Sensation.

-G2X speaker quality is somewhat better than the Sensation

-G2X has an IPS display, with better contrast and viewing angles than the sensation.

-G2X has 8GB internal memory (about 5GB free after system allocation) over the Sensation's 4GB internal memory (about 1GB free).

Sensation pros:

-Sensation's screen resolution is higher (960x540 vs G2X's 800x480). Sensation's display quality is comparable if not slightly inferior to G2X but the extra screen real estate is noticeable.

-Sensation has 8GB microSD card included for additional storage, G2X does not come with a microSD card.

-Sensation has 768MB of RAM over G2X's 512MB (Performance between the two will pretty much be the same unless you are running many memory intensive apps simultaneously).

-Sensation has a better camera than the G2X.

-Sensation has substantially greater open community dev support than the G2X now.

So hopefully that helps. You can't go wrong either way, but with the ROM/Software differences aside, some hardware features may appeal to you more than others.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KingDavid63:
Damn good post...
[Captivate General] jpcdeux:
This info is hard to find, there's been wonderment here so here's my settings. Mms send/receive as well as data work just fine. Set, save, select, reboot, done.
[Captivate General] shadow65781:
thanks for this, Did you have to buy a specific phonelike the E71?

where did you get it?
[Captivate General] jpcdeux:
Yeah, my sim is from an e71 from Wal Mart. Make sure sim doesnt end in T5. Thats tmobile
[Captivate General] harpo1:
I went the two apn route with a few different settings and I have everything working as well. This way is a little easier. May change mine to this.
[Captivate General] PeteSeiler2010:
So how is the coverage, I heard straight talk uses VZW towers. Is there anything special that needs done to the captivate?
[Captivate General] jpcdeux:
The cheap phones use verizon. The e71 uses att. If you buy a phone make sure it doesn't say CDMA in the bottom front left corner on the box.
[Captivate General] harpo1:
They use VZW and GSM (AT&T and some TM). To use your captivate you have to buy one of their nokia GSM smartphones and use the sim out of them. The phones cost $200 from Walmart. Plus you can't sell the nokia because the SIM is tied to the nokia and if someone else tries to activate the nokia they'll deactive your sim. It's a great deal for $45 a month unlimited everything using AT&Ts network.
[Captivate General] jpcdeux:
You could buy a damaged St e71 on eBay and return yours but keep sim. Then when they cut it off call and say Hey! The phone was bad! Here's the imei of the phone I'm using (damaged St e71 imei). They'll say Oh! Sorry! Well send you a new sim! Then when you get it, activate and you're good to go.

Its not going to get you into heaven or make you friends but it works. Just saying.

Sent via my Continuum 5 Cappy.
[Captivate General] MaxRabbit:
This is so genius. My girlfriend has a 6790. I might steal her phone for testing purposes, see if the SIM works, and buy her a Captivate for her birthday if it works :)
[Captivate General] jpcdeux:
It'll work if it doesn't end in T5 I believe it is. That's T-Mobile service. Otherwise just change APN settings and you're g2g
[Captivate General] MaxRabbit:
It worked, but you may want to see this:

From their ToS
[Captivate General] itchy18:
does this work on android 2.2 froyo?
[Captivate General] MaxRabbit:
Yes of course.
[Captivate General] Renegade1994:
The info was pretty easy to find for me....I used Howard Forums website to find the info. Are you sure everything is working properly? Mine is the same except for the MMS Proxy....mine is "proxy.mvno.tracfone.com"...which makes sense since Tracfone actually owns ST. I can definitely verify mine is working in all respects.....been using my Inspire with ST for months. Problems that you could run into if it's wrong would be with multimedia messaging. If yours is ok then I guess we have two working settings here.