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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
what do you mean?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
Thanks :)

tried to use the thank you button but it said im only allowed 5 thanks per day...bummer!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=KANG

Funny thing is, UD is how I learned what kang meant too.

No worries, I'm out today too.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dirkyd3rk:
Stolen code with no credit and not admitting to stealing it. #codepirates
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gacn87:
Or forget both and flash myn's warm 2.2 rls5 with launcher pro, in my opinion it has manyof the benefits of cm7 but you stay with sense (if you like sense, if not then cm7)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
VaelPak will also accomplish that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
Whats the difference with sense or not sense?:confused:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1041858

UD is AOSP (Not Sense). Stock ROM is Sense. Sense is HTC UI that is laid over top of Android.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
ohh ok thanks :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
How is veal pak? whats its pros?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
VaelPak is awesome. It is basically a ROM based on Sense but with Sense almost completely removed. It let's you choose between many AOSP and Sense elements based on preference. For example, it includes both the Sense and AOSP dialers. It also comes with LauncherPro, ADW and Go Launcher so you can choose which to use.

Aside from all the different app choices, it also has a ton of built in customization options, like a theme builder to change the task bar icons, LCD density changer and some other things.

It's def my favorite ROM that's not purely AOSP.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
Wow that sounds good I have to try that. Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
Make sure you download VaelPak 3.2 RC2. He has not updated the post on here, but if you follow the links in the 3.2 RC1 thread to his website, you should find RC2. Just make sure you start with RC2 and not RC1. There is an update zip to upgrade from 1 to 2, but it isn't as stable to do it that way.

Just ignore the 3.0 thread.

Actually, here:

http://vaelek.com/index.php?/topic/843-vaelpak-32-rc-2/

make it easy on you.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
Thanks a lot I really appreciate it. I'll let you know how it goes :)

oh hows the battery life on vealpak? should I still flash the tiamat kernal?

Also is there tehtering and how?

Thanks again
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
No Tiamat won't work with VP. VP comes with Netarchy's latest stable Kernel (4.3.1). You should be good with that, although you might want to try his latest beta (4.3.4). My battery life with VP was excellent.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
Ok thanks, and the tethering?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
Wireless tether app should work.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
thanks I appreciate it :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Wireless tether won't work on gingerbread. You'll need to use the native hot spot, or barnacle tether.

Wireless tether will work on sense roms though, if you really needed to tether 4G.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
Talking about VaelPack now. Sorry thread went OT.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
WELL...I didn't know >> But yes, it'll work on the VP SENSE rom :D -saving face- lol
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
whats the difference btwn 4g tether and regular hotspot and barnacle ( i never heard of barnacle tether before) lol
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
Wireless tether will let you tether at 4g speeds with Wimax. The other will only tether over 3g.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Wifi Tether- Can tether 4G [faster than 3G] along with 3G

Native hotspot, and barnacle tether- wifi tether only for 3G speeds.

barnacle tether is another 3rd party app, it works nice. but no need for it and the native hotspot.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Omg this again. UD has more features than CM7 and I prefer it to CM7. Hes already given credit.get over it people.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dirkyd3rk:
Yeah he does now after getting flamed and criticized for so long by many. But in fact he did kang **** previously w/o giving credit but that's old news. Ive tried it Im not that much of a fan but its a good rom though.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgeigel:
omg calm down it was just a question sheesh
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
Dude there's 40+ posts there were like 4 about stealing code. This has been the tamest thread I've seen about the two. Not our fault no one that used UD commented until now.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DannyV94:
Hey everyone...

So today while i was trying to download an app, my cpu temperature became 63C (145F).

I was wondering if this temp is even possible and what the temperature the phone is set to turn itself off at.

EDIT: Moto Atrix btw, tegra2 processor
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KefkaticFanatic:
I'm not sure about a mobile processor, but a desktop processor can well above 70, 80, or even 90 under heavy load.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wackyD:
63C sounds wayyy too high for a low voltage/power mobile cpu. Then again its hard to say, as the mobile chips are passively cooled.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GatorRuss:
I was able to achieve overheat at a balmy 131°... I was driving in my car, it was charging and running navigation/trapster/iheartradio... I also live in Florida.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blindguyinanorgy:
I have also seen 63. And suprising to me its one of the few times it didn't reboot

56 is normal "hot" for me.

Sent from the bowels of hell...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DannyV94:
thats your battery though, i am talking about processor.

I wopuld assume that this temperature is damaging to phone itself, i just wonder what the overheat level for the nvidia tegra2 is.

hmmm, still very intrigued. part of me wants to runn my phone as hot as it can till it over heats and reboots, and part of me is saying im a dumba** for even thinking of that, lol.

EDIT: just wanted to say im running greyblur, if that affects anything at all, lol.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KefkaticFanatic:
Haha, I guess I really don't know much about mobile hardware then ^^
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DannyV94:
I probably know more for hardware than software, don't feel bad, lol

But, actually, overheat status isn't true overheat function. When there is a true overheat, the phone either turns off or reboots itself. When the battery becomes too hot, the processor ignores that in most cases, while if the processor itself gets hot, it shuts itself down.

Yay, my first true member post, not junior anymore!!!! hahaha
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wohee:
I am also getting these high tempuratures on my cpu and not my battery.

My idle tempurature lowest was 35C and averages 55C and my highest was 70C and averages 65C. I really need help on how to fix this. My battery temp is around 40C
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OSNPA:
I set up a SetCPU profile so that if the CPU temp reaches 60C, it will max out the processor at 750 Mhz. For me, it pretty much cools off instantly. You may want to set yours lower. It doesn't reach that level often.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WolfFX:
I've started a thread early today regarding the atrix's heat issues. Soon as I started playing games on my Atrix I got pretty scared with the temperature I felt on the exterior, and more scared after using temp. monitor apps.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1249757

The idea is to mod the phone to help dissipating heat. Besides undervolting with setcpu I guess there isnt much that can be done at software level to reduce the main chip's heat.

The ideas are still being formulated. I opened the thread so I could get some help and suggestion from other atrix owners, to have a good idea of what to do when I finally open my phone :D

If anyone wants to try it or have any ideas, please comment there!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] palmboy5:
WolfFX, your link has actual "...." in the URL and doesn't work.

Regarding maximum temperature before shutdown, I'm wondering if anyone has EVER seen their phone shut off due to high heat? Does it even happen? I'm not meaning reboot either, but actual shut down to cool off.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WolfFX:
Thanks man, I've corrected it. It got messed up due to copy - paste. :o
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matthew5025:
Yeah. Left the screen to never time up and setcpu to stress test. Left it on my bed covered by a pillow (accidents do happen, I'm quite forgetful and idiotic). Came back and the phone was in "emergency cool down mode"
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ltdanno360:
with faux 1.9 ive seen temps as high as 165± if its reading right and i did have profiles to back it down to 1100 but it hasnt shut off "yet"

unlocked bootloader att. atrix. honeycomb rom. faux oc kernal
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xploited:
Guys, I will repeat this just one more time. DO NOT let your CPU temperature get higher than 50C... Constant minor overheating causes long term damage to your phone, shortens it's life span.

One major overheating can toast your phone just like that.

These aren't desktop PCs, use common sense. Overclocking to higher than 15% doesn't come unpunished.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
Also posted the same in the other operating temperature thread.

Did a bunch of looking around and after a while found some white papers with the following temperature ranges:

General operating temps of -40C to +85C.

Practical usage will start to drop off below -20C and above +70C.

This tells me that our safe operating range should be limited to the practical usage temperatures. Anything outside of these and there is a good chance you will see performance drop off fast, and also may suffer hardware lockups, etc.

Personally I will stick to +65C which is the rule of thumb I go by with my PC's under full load.

<edit> I would also add that while our phones are not desktops/laptops/workstations, the CPU's can all handle around the same temperatures in all devices. Materials used and manufacturing techniques are almost identical. The solder used has a melting point of around 180C - 190C, so there is no fear of melting the solder. The main difference is that phones do not have active cooling, so you will see much larger jumps and swings in temperature. This being the reason you cannot OC in the extreme ways you can with PC's.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonesy:
i read a post somewhere that 75 degrees c was the max it should go to, anything higher is way too much
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phalanx7621:
I read somewhere that if you overheat yer phone it eventually breaks. Pretty much it. Just don't let it out in the sun too long or anything silly. However, keep in mind that if you do break your phone, you can always donate it to XDA. I think they're looking for bricked and broken phones.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WolfFX:
Mine gets above 50C, and usualy around 57C, every time I open any kind of game... Should I be worried?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xploited:
57C is alright. As someone here mentioned you can use 60C or 75C, it's up to you. I personally would stick to 60C.

But keep in mind if your phone feels hotter than it should be, then it probably is.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
You said 50C one page back! :confused:
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erick161:
No, you're right these aren't desktop PCs, more like laptops tho. Laptops get HOT. Keep in mind these run dual cores, they are pretty much designed to run hotter than normal...because they are doing more things. Stock clocking it will easily reach over 50C. So I would use common sense and surmise upwards of 60C would be considered normal.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HamishAlexander:
I had SetCPU widget showing 83c today on SetCPU stress test @ faux 1300MHz while tuning undervolt settings, no stability issues whatsoever. It was also charging (probably a bad idea). Are SetCPU readings correct?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cusa:
This is nothing to worry about. My phone goes up to 67c-78c under load and I haven't overclocked it. I think these temps are normal for tegra chips. Also, exynos chips run much cooler than Tegra chips which is why I'm getting a sgs3 for my next phone.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elbscorp:
Mine usually stays below 68c,but setting up webtop2sd, running the scripts to add full Ubuntu and fix dependencies it reached 87c
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jimtc:
We need to find out if anyone has a battery that is bigger than 1500 mah. It looks like the Optimus 2x uses the same battery so I would hope someone has a 1650 or 1800 mah out there. Let me know if a source is found. It would be nice to have an external wall charger as well.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Cheeze[iT]:
Or maybe a dock with spare battery charger on the back to at least hold a stock battery to charge :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] grenademasta:
Check on Ebay every few days. I haven't seen one yet but they make it for most phones. The batteries are thicker than the standard ones and it also comes with a different rear cover to accept the thicker battery. It is usually from China and around $15 or so.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] schmit:
the optimus 2x has been out for a while, and there's nothing yet.. I agree.. probably will be out soon. too bad they can't pack more punch into the same size.. don't want to make my phone any thicker.. I'll have a case for it where it wont' fit in then..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] baldwinguy77:
Sometimes there are extended batteries made that are the same exact size as the stock one but have a larger capacity. For example, I bought a Seidio extended 1750mAh battery for my Droid X which was the same size as the original battery but had about 250 more mAh to it...it gave me a couple more hours on one charge. Hopefully something similar is made for the G2X!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kentrik:
Maybe a bunch of us should just write to seidio and ask them to start on developing one for us...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] baldwinguy77:
Lol good idea...here's their twitter page: https://twitter.com/#!/seidioseidio
[T-Mobile LG G2x] andonnguyen:
Seems kind of shady (these batteries are running for $5-10 a piece) but here's what I found, 1600mah, haha:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2x1600mAh-B...&ps=63&clkid=8677498459030269031#ht_675wt_936

http://www.rpasonline.com/pd-1600-mah-battery-for-lg-optimus-2x.cfm
[T-Mobile LG G2x] question.com:
If they make a extended batt That's the same size, ill def get it. I don't want a bigger one cause it will cause problems with my car and house dock.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kentrik:
That's the nice thing about the Seidio ones. They are a legit company, and they can usually squeeze an extra 150-400 mAh out of the standard size battery. They aren't too terribly expensive, either. I am thinking for now, though, I may have to give one of those ebay ones with the separate battery charger a try....I have had good luck with ebay laptopt batteries, so....it might be worth the $20 for it.

Also, I will start spamming Seidio's twitter. Lol.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] GideonX:
Seidio slim extended batteries are usually way lower than what they state. Just run a quick search on here...bottom line, you may as well use the stock battery in most cases.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rotohammer:
Actually, they just re-label their inferior batteries with bigger mAh numbers and make a big profit for their efforts.

No company has ever made a legitimate higher capacity OEM size battery ever.

I've spend hundreds of dollars on batteries just to rip them apart, document my findings and test.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] aquariumdrinker:
This is what I have always suspected. Can you give a link to a writeup of your findings?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rotohammer:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2097942&postcount=47

http://batteryboss.org/
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Outlaw71:
Agreed. Seidio does make some legit extended batteries, like the 2500 and 3500 mAh one's they put out for the EVO and Droid X, etc... but the ones that are the same size as the stock battery don't hold any extra juice, they take advantage of the loop hole in the rules concerning how companies can label batteries.

Batteries have a range of mAh that they hold. Say the battery in our device has a range of 1300 to 1700 mAh, most companies will use the average and label the battery at 1500 mAh. Seidio on the other hand will label theirs on the high end of the range at 1700 mAh, which is perfectly within their right to do, but is rather deceiving to the consumer.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rotohammer:
There is no range. All the OEM batteries I've tested were within 3% of their tagged rating.

Regarding Seidio, there is no explanation as to why their "same size & higher capacity" batteries consistently deliver less power than an OEM battery.

But don't let me stop anyone from buying their snake oil.

Regarding Mugen, that first link shows a disassembled 3000mAh battery that contained 2 1200mAh cells. I call it fraud, plain and simple. They all do it, I've proved it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] crazythunder:
i just ended up getting this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000N63AC6 . i have a body glove case and they're a pain to snap off everytime i want to replace my battery while at work. for me, this is much easier.

now if they made a good extended battery with a custom back cover like i had on my g1, i'd get it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] v8dreaming:
You ever tested any of the batteries from htc express? Those seem to work well.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mingkee:
Currently I am using Veho 5Ah external battery while I am waiting for 2 more batteries.

With regular microUSB cable, it works fine.

http://www.jr.com/veho/pe/VEH_VCCA007PBP/

$35 isn't bad at all.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] schmit:
Definitely stay away from the 1600mah. I saw those and I emailed one of the buyers.. and asked him for his input on the battery b4 I made a purchase. He said "stay away, they are junk and only hold a charge for a couple of hours. save your money."
[HTC Incredible S] YunYunYun:
Hello,

I'm living in Taipei and I'm looking for someone to get my IS S-off for free (XTC clip or whatever).

Can someone help me ?

Thank you !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] boriqua4evur:
I was wondering if there's a really good stable android for the HTC kaiser? Right now I'm using vanijeclair but I wanted to know if there was something better and stable. I want to use the haret method as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BoaRek:
Hi

The fastest and the most stable android build for me is

KAISER ROM Valentine 1.0 - based on not so super froyo RLS18 on same named thread.
[Xoom General] eallan:
After hitting the back button in the Xoom browser, it doesn't return to where I was on the previous page scroll-wise. It will always go to the top. This is quite annoying in forums and the like.

All i've done is changed the user agent to: Desktop.

Any ideas?
[Xoom General] laxwillsch:
I have noticed this as well and it bothers me as I am spoiled from my inspire 4g. It does it perfectly and even resizes the text when I blow it up. Hopefully it will be fixed in a future update.
[Xoom General] salahag:
Same behavior in Market

Sorry, a little out of topic.

I hope they fix that same behavior in the Market; when you go back to search results it starts from the beginning all over again. That really ruins the apps search experience. It should at least save state for a while.
[Xoom General] opie2l:
Yeah it drives me nuts with the market place
[Xoom General] supremecream06:
Market!!!!

i was thinking the same thing. the market drives me nuts. i always have to scroll through a million apps to get back to where i was. and also i notice with the browser, there is no way to skip to the bottom of a page. like how you have on a normal broswer a scroll bar at the right. so for example if i am on a page like a forum with a long list of comments, i have to scrool throught the entire page before i get to the bottom, especially if you go back, when it already doesn't remember where you was. it makes it harder on my fingers, cuz i have to scroll a million times to get to the bottom of the page. very annoying google, very..
[General Questions and Answers] heman93:
my desire hd is going through bootloop on the cyanogenmod7 that was released here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=957336

First time using roms and rooting on android, bit of a noob please help :(
[General Questions and Answers] Markolic:
i recommend selling the phone and getting a samsung wave, its just better
[General Questions and Answers] ErOR22:
You might want to ask a mod to move this topic to the Desire HD section.

Your so helpful!! ... (Wrapped in sarcasm.)

If you have nothing smart to say then don't say it.

On topic, did you do a full wipe from recovery followed by cache wipe and davkin cache wipe prior to flashing CM7?

What version of ClockWork Recovery are you using? v3+ is recommended.

Did you do S-OFF? You should also do ENG S-OFF so you can flash a newer radio if you haven't already.

You haven't really given us much to work with, please provide more information.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] mrkannapel:
Anyone know where I can get a cheap screen for my TBolt? I've already cracked my screen...
[Thunderbolt Accessories] babybacon:
http://www.lingosbox.com/product_info.php?language=en&currency=USD&products_id=3760

cheapest i have found it.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] droidboy850:
That's not a bad price at all. Makes me feel more comfortable if I break mine hah.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] jcporter80:
Seems like an awesome price. Now, the question is how hard is it to change?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] mrkannapel:
Thanks babybacon
[Nook Color General] jabrams:
Is it possible to use Launcher Pro instead of ADW in CM7? (currently using nightly 41 w/ 041811C OC Kernl + ALSA) If so how do I uninstall ADW?

I tried uninstalling ADW using Titanium Backup but the force uninstall didn't work. I assume because it is prebuilt into CM7

Thanks!
[Nook Color General] EverythingNook:
first what is ALSA? and yes you can just download it and click the n and pick launcher pro.
[Nook Color General] Trifurcated:
uninstall adw using uninstaller for root or through terminal, if you cant uninstall it using the normal way
[Nook Color General] gbeardmore:
I use Zeam, but the result is the same. AFTER you install your Launcher, click the "n", then check the box to make the Launcher the default and select Launcher Pro.

Once your favorite launcher is the Default launcher, go into Titanium Backup and 'freeze" ADW.
[Nook Color General] altimax98:
Ive always found it best to leave a launcher in the backround. Especially helpful if you screw up and its un-runable :)
[Nook Color General] 12paq:
I use the Home Switcher app, it allows me to easily change home screen launchers and set defaults. Been useing it on all my devices since Eclair, its quite handy.
[Vibrant General] sgreene84:
Source code has been released for I-9000
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
lets hope we get 2.3 then source a day later...

wow am i dreaming?

probably.
[Vibrant General] cashyftw:
Old news ;]
[Vibrant General] geoffcorey:
Seriously, do people not search?

Even though this is the vibrant section, i9k new does get posted here, and something as major as 2.3 kernel source is NOT going to go unnoticed. This is what, the 4th or 5th thread about it? And wasn't the kernel source dropped sometime over the weekend?
[Vibrant General] javolin13:
wait... they're making gingerbread for the vibrant?! When was this information released!?!

/end sarcasm
[Vibrant General] oka1:
It was posted on the samsung site 3-4 days ago I down loaded the source code for GB on Saturday