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[T-Mobile LG G2x] EtherealRemnant:
G2x without a doubt...

qHD is great and all but imagine all the apps that will need to be redone to take advantage of that resolution

No locked bootloader on the G2x

I know from previous HTC Snapdragon releases that HTC never optimizes for full performance

Battery life is better with Tegra 2

Graphics on Tegra 2 are faster than Adreno core

This phone has some nice build quality to it

4.3" is just too big - I have an EVO and Inspire and I never could get used to it

Sense is ****

Eventually HTC is going to plug the ENG HBOOT leaks that keep getting out and then everyone is screwed.

Cyanogen will be supporting the G2x directly.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] :
Um the phone was only seen in the launch no one has gotten their hands on one yet. Longer than a couple of minutes. So we actually don't know how good it is till it gets release to the public or get reviewed.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] deviouskater:
After getting the evo I learned the wonderful world of CyanogenMod. My next phone will be stock android skinned phone like the G2X. sadly I still have 1 years worth on contract. T mobile practically supporting and giving cyanogen products.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] segfault82:
Well I went to the store again to play around with the g2x and I couldnt resist lol. it's SO much snappier than my old n1 and the screen is awesome coming from a 3.7". So I rooted it, removed the bloatware and am loving it so far. however, I am seriously missing the colored trackball notifications from the n1. Anyway can't wait for cm7 on this thing.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] graffixnyc:
I got shipping notification today :) should be here by next week.. I hope I get one that doesnt have some of the problems reported

:D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
Speed wise from watching videos the g2x seems more snappy. Videos don't do justice though.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
You said in a previous post that you were using a G2x but your past said you sent it from your Glacier. Every post I read of yours in these forums is HTC fanboyish.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I will not buy any device that has to overclock it's outdated processor just to keep up with the current processors. HTC had to overclock the Sensation to 1.2ghz just to bring it up to speed. Overclocking means wasted battery power. Snapdragon is already a battery sucker. I can only imagine how much it's going to suck down battery power being overclocked on a 4.3in display. Just look at the Evo's wonderful battery life:rolleyes::rolleyes:.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] nraudigy2:
Best post ever.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Swoosh042507:
I say g2x the nvidia processor runs smoothly...pure android along with hdmi out with no software.... Excluding the screen bleeding the display and colors are great. And a huge plus is internal memory is have the GS4G its annoying not having internal memory
[T-Mobile LG G2x] AdamHart612:
Interesting. This is the first phone I've felt like could stand with the N1's build quality. Infact, I think this feels more high quality than my old N1.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] faux123:
You can't blame HTC for not releasing driver for a closed os. You also can't blame a company for locking bootloader to prevent phone noobs from bricking their phones. Look at iPhone's draconian protection, and they still got unlocked. Bootloader locking is annoying but I am sure it would be unlocked by some sort of "leak" :p I agree with your rant regarding qualcomm chips on lack of development support. Qualcomm does not publish the programming manual for their chip to public, which hinders maximum use of their chipset. Nvidia is a new comer to the mobile scene, they may be more open but the available code from them is tiny compared to HTC. As a kernel hacker, HTC has contributed a lot of open source materials to the community, I've seen their source code in other manufacturers' kernel code too. Cyanogen got his phone for free, hell if they gave me a free phone, I would most likely hack a kernel for it too ;)

Anyways, I just want to share my opinion on this. :cool:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] CB620:
Im gonna keep the g2x until the sensatuon comes but I might keep the g2x if they have a sense rom. Most likely they will. I seen the dump for the sensation floating around.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul22000:
Wait, what? Where did you read this? I'm pretty sure he purchased his G2x. He only got the G-Slate for free (T-Mobile tweeted @ him if he wanted one for free after Cyanogen tweeted about liking his G2x). But his G2x I'm pretty sure he purchased with his own money.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] shovelhead83:
Tomorrow is not promised to anyone. I'm running the G2X. Came from the Vibrant. :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] graffixnyc:
hahaha you have a very good point.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] se1zure31:
I have personally loved my g2x for the past few days I have had it. I told my brother, whom isn't into the ROM scene, to just wait for the sensation.

I am coming from a Vibrant and an HD2 before that. I personally did not like the 4.3" display and it seemed that whenever I dropped my HD2 the screen would shatter.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ko0l:
Just a little correction here the Qualcomm MSM8260 cpu in the sensation is actually clocked at 1.5ghz. But its underclocked by htc to 1.2ghz probably due to battery life/ heat issues.

http://www.247smartphone.com/mobile...ll-its-power-in-a-benchmark-test-6132011.html

The cpu that was overclocked to compete against the sensation is actually the orion on the galaxy s ii.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] EtherealRemnant:
I think the point being made here is that in order for the processor to compete with Tegra 2 chips at 1GHz, HTC had to bump the clock to 1.2GHz. I highly doubt they would be able to cool a Qualcomm chip running at 1.5GHz dual-core. Anyone remember the issues that the older MSM chips had with heat? Mogul with white LEDs anyone?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Swoosh042507:
Just get the g2x kidd!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Profondo_Rosso:
The G2X definitely has a solid build, but the ...curves maybe? aren't what my N1 was. I just dig the entire look and found it pretty distinctive from other phones. For instance, someone thought I was toting around an iphone yesterday. Someone else thought it was the Galaxy 4g. When I had my N1 there were no other phones that looked like barring its HTC siblings.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tq745:
I'm very happy with this phone...for me I won't be getting the sensation, I rather wait for the gs2.

Sent from my G2x!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] segfault82:
so i noticed my g2x has a single green stuck pixel. it's pretty hard to spot, and i only noticed it in the camera app with no lighting. it's not really visible anywhere else. not sure if i should just forget about it or exchange the phone. anyone else have any stuck pixels?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] graffixnyc:
I did read a thread where someone said they had a pixel like that as well. I forget which thread it was in though
[T-Mobile LG G2x] segfault82:
yeah i'm just not sure if i should risk exchanging it or not. i haven't really had any of the other issues. it doesn't reboot and although battery life wasn't great the first couple of charges it seems to be getting better now. am at 70% after ~6 hours (that's with cellular connection only, no wifi). there is a bit of bleed on the upper corners, but honestly i can't notice it at all except in the camera app so i don't really mind it. the only reason i can think of to exchange it for the stuck pixel is so i can sell it without having to mention that fact.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sonnysekhon:
Just got a word from a friend who works at T-Mobile that the HTC Sensation will be available to buy in stores on June 12th for an off-contract price of $499. Same as the G2x.

Not sure about the subsidized rate but it will probably be the same as the G2x : $199.

He also said that he has had a chance to play with it a few times and said the screen is the only advantage the Sensation has over the G2x. He himself got a G2x.

Unfortunately, he did not know if the bootloader was locked or encrypted.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I might trade my G2X for the GSII but the Sensation......Nope!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
Watching videos of the sensation I'd say the g2x is more snappy. Faster.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] GnubbyaBush:
Stock + ips=win

Registered just to post :rolleyes: . I used to have a T-Mobile unlocked iphone, and if it wasn't for installous I probably would have stomped it. What I learned was the hacking community can be crap. If I lost a signal my phone wouldn't recover, keeping up with the updates was a complete pain in the A. Yellosn0w, redsnow, ultrasnow....just for my phone to barely work.

So stock android is important to me. It means the hardware is made for stock, when I Googled around to see if it would be no hassle to put stock or cm on a sense or blur phone..I found signs that I don't take lightly, reminded me of being the Guy with the iPhone stuck on the edge network : ( . I know that the android community is very much about development, I'm a Dev myself (sadly no android work yet) and I wanted a phone that I would have to worry about coding for UI. These stock phones are pretty rare so I jumped on it. G2x is a great phone so far, and I think its a quality sleeper. IPS IMO is better than any oled, its colors are so vibrant and acurate Screw qhd if your going to give me an oled screen. I'm sure HTC sensation will be great but stock is what sold me, cm and upgrades should be easier b/c no ui to account for.

In the end its all about the Dev support and this phone seems to be getting some attention
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
+1
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rich2thad:
I just think the phone is visably ugly lol

but. its bad ass

butter smooth with lots of apps running stock

that alone says alot

sent from my G2X with no regrets
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul22000:
Luckily, the hacking community for iPhone has to do their work AFTER Apple officially releases an update and breaks all current hacks.

With Android, the first device to get it (or not even a device, but an SDK preview as with Honeycomb) and BOOM, it can be ported anywhere, sometimes weeks or months before it even hits a device officially.

The experience you got with trying to keep up on your iPhone will definitely be nowhere near what you'll find with an Android device, especially the one that Cyanogen himself will use.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] androidaddict23:
Wait for the sensation or check the list of complaints and I own bought out right, theres some screen bleeding and it doesn't play well with cases with magnetic strip battery life is questionable
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kampf:
I'll give Sense 3.0 and the Sensation a try.

It can be worse than my overall experience with the G2x, but it could also be much, much better.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
Carhome starts on my phone no magnetic case.

Lol. That's been a horrible rumor.

Its gotta be something else.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ericc191:
I'm seeing $200 dollar Nexus One/MyTouch 4G listings on Craigslist and Ebay. I'm returning the G2x tomorrow and I will not be paying a $10 dollar restocking fee. Then, I'm going to flip a coin on which phone to pick up for my backup. And I'll use that phone until LG gets the screen issue fixed.

Sorry to thread jack the OP, but if anyone here has owned both the N1 and MT4G, which did you like better?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Erislover:
ugly, really??? I think it looks damn good! form factor matters, too, and this 4" screen is much more manageable than the 4.3" screen on the sensation...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kampf:
I've had a Nexus One since launch and I have many friends and family with the MT4G. The latter is faster, but if you are not interested in rooting, then the Nexus wins, hands down, with Gingerbread.

I would also offer that the dual-mic on the Nexus makes better phone call quality, the OLED screen is very nice, and if you can, get the desktop dock, it's very useful bedside. You can't go wrong when you call HTC and the first menu options are "if you are calling about a Nexus One, press 1. For any other phone..." they still love this phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Its a very easy fix. This shouldn't even be a issue at this point.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Profondo_Rosso:
I'm buying a N1. I owned it for over a year, and it's the best phone I ever had. I sold it to get the G2X, but now I'm going to return it, buy another N1 and wait on the Sensation, I think.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kampf:
As a Nexus One owner, the Sensation's form factor looks very similar, but larger. I wish they'd have kept the power button on the left, but I did get used to it being on the right with the G2x.

I am surprised at how small it looks in hand during the engadget video demos. Many who have seen the device in person have commented on how nice the qHD screen, 16:9 format, and packaging make the phone _feel_ much smaller than the EVO or other 4.3" devices.

I'd owned and HD2 for a week or so, and I actually liked the size and feel rather a lot. I do hope the Sensation feels as good as the Nexus One.

Does anyone know if the dual-mics work for in-call noise cancellation like they do on the Nexus One?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] polo045:
Keep your g2x in mint condition and sell it when the sensation comes out, real simple. I get every phone that comes out, every phone .
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kako5150:
I have the G2X because my MT4G did not survive the LA Marathon and finally powered up for the last time. I have every intention on taking this phone back for buyers remorse on day 29. I will then take the Sensation in my hand feel it out and probably go with it. I understand the support for NVidia and really have no complaints about the power on the G2x (restoring from Titanium backup and using my phone was a real surprise). The G2x is a fine phone but I am truly tired of 800x480 resolution.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul22000:
What does that mean? It was a surprise how?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
Like the vibrant with lag fix. He means programs install zippy.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
I dunno I'm pretty happy with my G2x.

I have very slight backlight bleed.

My reasons to pick the G2x over the Sensation is the Tegra 2. I think Nvidia is really pushing Devs and we're going to see an onslaught of Tegra accelerated apps and games, and it would really suck to have a new phone that cannot take part of that.

Already looking through the Nvidia Store I see some sweet looking upcoming games.

Also thinking about dev support and custom roms/kernels. You aren't going to get OC/UV kernels and roms without an unlocked bootloader. The G2x already has custom kernels that are currently being tested and who knows how far we can push the Tegra's.

Aside from the backlight bleeding, the other little issues are all software bugs that will be worked out either by LG or the awesome devs here. CM7 #9 already feels like a close-to-stable release and runs much better then stock...

The sky is the limit and they've only just begun.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Same here, except I don't keep my phones in mint condition. I play games but I'm not about to give up what kind of games I play. ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Even though I will be getting the GSII these are all the reasons why this will be the first device I will be holding on to rather than selling it on Ebay after my next purchase. I want to hold this phone due to all the Dev support. It's going to be so much fun to play with.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jlevy73:
I agree, it looks like for the immediate future the Nvidia chip is the one game developers are adapting to. It'll be interesting to see what happens once there are qualcomm and sammy dual cores out there. But for the moment there about a dozen or so games designed specifically for the tegra 2
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I would think there would be better games available for the Nvidia chips considering there background in the gaming word.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
Well Tegra games only just started. Most aren't even available yet. But go on Youtube and look up some Tegra 2 demo's from CES and hear some of the developers talking about how easy it is to do a direct port from a PC to the Tegra with little to no changes involved.

They said that coding for Tegra is very similar to coding for the Geforce line of PC Graphics cards that developers have been doing for years. No longer are the days when mobile platforms get crappy spin-offs of their PC/Console variants.

When you have such a big backer as NVidia and all of these game developers raving how awesome and easy it is to now do these things for a mobile platform, it makes you think about what phone you have in your hand in the upcoming months.

The orion and qualcomm chips will most likely be left out seeing how coding on those require special instructions and usually a complete backhaul to get working.

With the Tegra 2, game developers can build their PC game and get a free mobile game with very little effort to reach a wider range of gamers... which corrects the problem of the current mobile platforms. There are too many chips on too many phones to code for separately. They need to find a standard and go with it. PC's have ATI and NVidia. Consoles have 360 or PS3. Mobiles need a standard and NVidia (and ATI) can do that, and they should.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jeffreynew23:
I have the G2x and was certain that I was moving to the sensation but I have changed my mind. The development on the G2x is booming now. I feel like a kid at a candy store
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
Definitely the G2x for many reasons.

Reason #1: Tegra 2 Chip = more games + awesome performance overall get two worlds in one.

Reason #2: No locked bootloader

Reason #3: Stock and easy to AOSP

Reason #4: Development on this phone is getting insane and there are more devs coming. (CM7, Team Whiskey will bring Bionix and even Teams are getting formed just because of this phone! EagleBlood, PaulObrien, Morphic, Faux, My goodness and the list goes on! WIN!)

Reason #5: Good built quality overall, I'm very happy with it.

Reason #6: Great screen colors. LCD bleed not an issue for me as I don't notice it.

Reason #7: -->Add here reason #7<--

I'm really happy! Never been so happy with any other phone ever ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] johnnyp500:
I love this phone. The Blackberry i had feels like a dinosaur next to it. I just saw a HTC thunderbolt at Verizon and the phone is just way to big I love the size and quality of this phone. Ive had no issues with rebooting or wifi or anything except for a very minor bleed on the top corners which is unnoticeable unless u go to settings, increase the brightness, turn all the lights off, and look at it lol. But this phone is GREAT! Im keepin it fo sho :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kako5150:
So I was playing dungeon Defenders and noticed some choppy action. I switch out to see if I can kill any apps and I see Tasker complaining because the phone is nearly out of RAM. 512 MB ... really? So now this is my new problem with it. All this power and this crappy amount of RAM.

My problem with the Sensation will be the 1GB internal...

For the love of CHRIST! can we stop making super phones full of kryptonite?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
This is odd considering I play DD a couple hours a weak without any problems. In fact it runs crazy smooth and while playing it my G2x still says it has 189 MB/Ram to spare. Check and see if a app is running scripts in the background sucking up all the ram. Some apps are poorly written and have serious memory leaks. I ran into this problem with the NFL app recently. It was hogging up 112 MB of ram even after exiting the damn thing.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kako5150:
So the only thing I have running is Voice, Maps, taskkiller (ignored DD) Tasker, Lookout, Email, Google Services. Nothing that I could think of that would run out of control.. Something appears to be causing the game to crash though and when I get out the only hint of what the cause was is Tasker warning my about memory. If I jump out to check the setting Dungeon Defenders is not there and most of the time it gets killed by the OS. I am happy to hear this might be isolated to me because @#!$#@#^%!! Sensation has 1GB internal storage
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Really the only thing I have done to my G2X is root it and installed that pre-dexopt patch. I froze pretty much all of the bloat-ware including WiFi calling. I do not use a task killer nor do I use something like Lookout. I just use the built in task manager since Froyo pretty much makes task killers useless. Try deleting or freezing Lookout and Tasker to see what happens.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kako5150:
Thanks, but that is kind of my point. I do not want to go into shut down mode just because I want to play a game. 512 MB on a phone of this caliber is a real dumb move in my humble opinion. I think I can get over the knuckleheads over at HTC for putting 1GB internal storage as we can just install to the SD card. I tell you what though the Galaxy S2 looks better and better with their 16/32 GB internal and 1 GB RAM.

Edit: though... though not thought
[T-Mobile LG G2x] iunlock:
Well said. The G2X is perfect size as well.

Sense UI sucks too.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] :
When we're talking about nVidia's tegra2 and how easy it is to port games from the PC, the only thing I can think of is Steve Ballmers', "Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers"
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
While I agree and wish the G2X came with 1gb of RAM I still think the 512 is plenty. I mean just look how much RAM I have left over after filling up 5 home screens with widget. Not to mention the multiple apps running at the time of the screen shot. If you look at the bottom left hand corner there is a widget that will tell you I have close to 250MB of RAM free.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kako5150:
Yeah, understood. The weird thing is that even when I jump out to settings to see my available RAM, Dungeon Defenders is not there. I also have around 200 MB free but I do not see DD and I know Tasker would not be complaining if 200 MB was free when it checked.

Not meaning to hijack this thread, but to the original question I suggest you get both and give the lesser of the 2 to your wife or at least that is what my current plan is.

Also to the comment about how easy it is to port from PC, keep in mind developers are still learning how the "sandbox" in Android JIT environment connects to Native code and the best practices for optimal results. PC code is written in C or C++ and it takes some work to get it running in the android sandbox not to mention a lot of the UI is just plain better handled in Java on android. So the smoothness of menus and HUDs should be converted to java 99.9% of the time.

I suppose when you look at it though if you are going to android anyway, the GPU's chipset is 1 less thing that you have to worry about but in the grand scheme of things I do not think it is a deal breaker by any means for developers who have already traveled down the rabbit hole
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I plan on giving either the G2X or the SGSII to my wife. I don't see a point in getting the Sensation being that the most powerful, most anticipated device of the year (SGSII) is coming out maybe 2 months after the Sensation release. I don't like the shape of the Sensation and I think 1gb of internal memory is to low for my needs.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] cam_hamlin:
Both...and also get the SGSII...that's what ima do haha...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.orange303:
Keeping the g2x. Took a little to get how I like it. Now its perfect.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bdkinney:
Railing against what is, solves nothing...

If you have a problem and don't want to work around the problem...then take the phone back and wait for the SGS2. Solved...simple really...

Oh and I play DD on rooted stock with no problems....so, IDK.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ericc191:
I think I'm going to stick with my G2 for now and see what happens with the next Nexus phone. It is coming soon and should be dual core with all that pure icecream goodness.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul22000:
Ice Cream Sandwich isn't slated to be out until Q4 2011, so at least another 6 months.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
That would be one interesting phone to check out
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kampf:
Each Nexus Phone, and the OG Droid, debuted around the end/start of the year and was the first and only phone with that version.

The Nexus 3 will probably be the first with ICS.

Still getting a Sensation.