yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] sofauxboho:
This might be interesting:

$ free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 341952 336356 5596 0 892
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 341952 336356 5596

The T-Mobile bundled Task Manager app also indicates that the phone has 334mb RAM.

What an odd quantity of RAM to have.

As for internal storage, it looks like that's mounted at /data and is only 512mb:

$ busybox df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 167.0M 0 167.0M 0% /dev
df: /mnt/.lfs: Function not implemented
tmpfs 167.0M 0 167.0M 0% /mnt/asec
/dev/block/stl9 372.6M 330.3M 42.3M 89% /system
/dev/block/stl10 514.4M 318.0M 196.3M 62% /data
/dev/block/stl11 34.8M 14.1M 20.7M 40% /cache
/dev/block/stl3 5.9M 780.0K 5.2M 13% /efs
/dev/block/vold/179:1
29.7G 8.3G 21.5G 28% /mnt/sdcard

Again, the Task Manager agrees.

(Please excuse the bits of notifications in the screenshots.)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Ace42:
The amount of ram is really strange and so total rom size is roughly 1GB based on what you put(kind of disappointing if you ask me). Looks like sammy really did a number on this puppy, not as bad as the indulge or prevail.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] dasmoover:
This is the partition info for the Fascinate:

bml1	256 KB	contains boot.bin (262144 bytes), Primary Boot Loader (low-level hardware initialization)
bml2	256 KB	contains PIT file first 512 bytes
bml3	10240 KB	/dev/block/stl3 /efs
bml4	1280 KB	contains Sbl.bin (1310720 bytes) Secondary Boot Loader (loads the Linux kernel and passes the necessary arguments)
bml5	1280 KB	contains Secondary Boot Loader (for recovery, ect)
bml6	5120 KB	param.lfs /mnt/.lfs j4fs
bml7	7680 KB	contains zImage and initramfs
bml8	7680 KB	empty - on Epic 4G and Fascinate, contains recovery.bin
bml9	293376 KB	factoryfs.rfs ( /system RFS Partition) /dev/block/stl9
bml10	137216 KB	dbdata.rfs ( /dbdata RFS Partition) /dev/block/stl10
bml11	35840 KB	cache.rfs ( /cache RFS Partition) /dev/block/stl11
bml12	12800 KB	modem.bin

mkdir /sdcard/dump/

dd if=/dev/block/bml1 of=/sdcard/dump/bml1.bin

dd if=/dev/block/bml2 of=/sdcard/dump/bml2.bin

dd if=/dev/block/bml3 of=/sdcard/dump/bml3.bin

dd if=/dev/block/bml4 of=/sdcard/dump/bml4.bin

dd if=/dev/block/bml5 of=/sdcard/dump/bml5.bin

dd if=/dev/block/bml6 of=/sdcard/dump/bml6.bin

dd if=/dev/block/bml8 of=/sdcard/dump/bml8.bin

dd if=/dev/block/bml7 of=/sdcard/dump/bml7

dd if=/dev/block/bml12 of=/sdcard/dump/bml12.bin

tar cfz dump.tar.gz /sdcard/dump/

Upload it to medafire then I will mirror it at gitbrew.org

Edit:

I have put together a small script that should root the sidekick automagically.

I do not have a device to test on, hopefully we can get this tested and debugged quickly.

http://dev.gitbrew.org/~dasmoover/android/sidekick/autoroot-sidekickv0.1.rar

This will NOT harm your phone in any way.

1. Place folder on sdcard

2. Using terminal emulator app chmod 755 /sdcard/autoroot/autoroot.sh

3. ./sdcard/autoroot/autoroot.sh

If the sdcard is mounted as noexec, follow these steps:

1. Place folder on sdcard

2. Using terminal emulator app - cp -R /sdcard/autoroot/ /data/local/tmp/

3. chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/autoroot.sh

3. ./data/local/tmp/autoroot.sh
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] msong06:
hey guys, anyone having problem with the trackpad randomly just clicks all over the place? i wonder if theres a way we can just disable it? any idea?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] sofauxboho:
Sure, here you go:

http://notfine.com/android/sk4g/sk4g-dump.tar.gz

I also dumped /dev/block/bml9. Does it contain any personal information or is it just the factory image?

Your rooting script looks good to me. It's basically what I did when I rooted mine, though I also installed busybox, I installed Superuser.apk over adb, and I did not modify my /etc/passwd or /etc/group files. Interesting that I haven't had any trouble.

I also used cat instead of cp to copy files simply because that's what the CM wiki article said to do.

Anyone want to give dasmoover's autorooter a try and let us know if it works? I'm already rooted.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] sofauxboho:
This tends to happen to me in two situations: When the phone is unlocked in my pocket and when the phone is in direct sunlight. It only happens occasionally, and so far I've just been ignoring it. I don't know of any way to disable it.

How often is it happening to you?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] brenix:
Here's the dump results...download is here (edit: removed link since one was already posted..)

256K Apr 25 21:57 bml1.bin*

256K Apr 25 21:57 bml2.bin*

10M Apr 25 21:57 bml3.bin*

1.3M Apr 25 21:57 bml4.bin*

1.3M Apr 25 21:57 bml5.bin*

5.0M Apr 25 21:57 bml6.bin*

7.5M Apr 25 21:57 bml7.bin*

15M Apr 25 21:58 bml12.bin*

Edit: Looks like someone already beat me to it!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
i gave it a try, here is what i have so far:

chmod 755/sdcard/autoroot/autoroot.sh yields this:

Usage: chmod <MODE> <FILE>

then /sdcard/autoroot/autoroot.sh: not found

have i done it correctly? does this mean i have try the second method?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] sofauxboho:
Ah, you want a space in the chmod command between the mode (the number) and the file (with all those slashes):

chmod 755 *SPACE* /sdcard/autoroot/autoroot.sh

Or, to be exact:

chmod 755 /sdcard/autoroot/autoroot.sh

Then when you run the autoroot.sh you need to start with a period:

*PERIOD*/sdcard/autoroot/autoroot.sh

Or, to be exact:

./sdcard/autoroot/autoroot.sh

Try those?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] dasmoover:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13210543

thread for autoroot and partition dump discussion
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] toep3t:
thanks to this. keep up
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
i just rooted my SK 4G using the one-click root and recovery for the Epic 4G:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=770388

i believe this is the rageagainstthecage exploit, but fully 'automated', doing it all for you with just one click. had to run it twice, rebooting the phone in-between, but otherwise worked smooth as butter.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Ace42:
The recovery actually works!

Camera Button- Moves you up

One of the HW keyboards buttons will do an enter function or allow you to select the highlighted option

I just tried it and so far so good...But I can get into the bootloader screen it goes to regular boot instead?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
That's cool! You used that one-click method? how did you get into recovery, with volume down-camera-power button, all at once? I just tried, and it seemed to kind of get caught in a loop and never get there. I'll have to try again...
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Ace42:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/reboot-control-widget/com.protocol.x.hn

With the widget I went to recovery mode and tried some random button, I have no clue how to get to recovery while phone is off though. And yeah I used the one click root method. maybe the maker of clockwork recovery can take a look at the Sk and fix the button layout for us.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Ah ok, cool. On the Samsung Epic it was those 3 buttons pressed at the same time, and I once had trouble flashing a ROM because I wasn't powering all the way down before going into recovery. We'll have to see how this ends up working out. Is the recovery Clockwork 2.5? It should be green text on a black background?

And thanks for the heads up on the widget.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Ace42:
I believe it was ver 2.5.1
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] srtpro4mance:
I Hold vol up + Vol down while putting the battery in. Keep the Volume keys held then Hold power until the sidekick screen comes up then release all the keys. Seems to work almost all the time for me.

ALSO:The microphone key is enter in clockwork
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] brenix:
I can confirm this works... I was wondering what the darn combination was.. Thanks..
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Hey yeah, thanks for the tip..... I actually just did it without taking the battery out: with phone off, volume up and volume down, and then power, all at the same time.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] srtpro4mance:
Im gonna hold off on messing with the phone since it seems when using clockwork I can't use a restore from SDcard

Says it cant mount Sdcard
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Wreximus:
Wow this thread took off lol. I see we have a new sidekick 4g forum but its not showing up on my xda app for some reason. I can't wait until we get some modding going on this, it is so slow compared to my rooted vibrant
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] insanecain:
superoneclick works perfect on this phone using psneuter method
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ayoteddy:
Hey im ordering a SK'4G next week, i have a samsung vibrant and would like to know from someone who is familiar with android phones if this phone is fairly fast or does it lag when opening stock apps and does RAM get full and bogs phone down often? Sorry for all the questions hope someone can give me some decent opinion on how they feel about this phone after a few days or so.. thanks in advance :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] moonrock:
Just wanted to jump in and say the one click root (epic) also worked for me that was linked a page or two back. Thanks guys!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ayoteddy:
Im so curious as to what you were going to say.. lol
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ayoteddy:
Does it give you a recovery? If so does it detect your SD card?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Yep, it gives you Clockwork 2.5.5(even tho it shows as 2.5.1), and it does show the files on my SD card. Someone else however, reporeted it didn't seem to read their card.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ayoteddy:
Yea thats why i asked.. this is very good news. This now means that ROMS and Themes can start being made..

Cant wait to port my theme over..
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Ah cool man, let us know when you get that ported over. We're all dressed up with nothing to flash, lol.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] sofauxboho:
Compared to the Vibrant:

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/compare.php?id[]=2834&id[]=3205&id[]=&id[]=&id[]=

Same processor

Same RAM

Probably less onboard flash

Has a keyboard

Bigger

Heavier

Smaller screen

Lots of cruft

Basically, it should be similar to the Vibrant in performance with some obvious physical changes. If an excellent physical keyboard is important to you, you will like the Sidekick 4G much more. If you don't care about the keyboard, you will prefer the Vibrant.

Any lag or RAM issues depend on how you use the phone, but should be virtually identical to what you have experienced with the Vibrant. My SK4G was extremely responsive when I first picked it up. It is somewhat slower now that I've got it configured and have numerous apps on it, but I find it quite usable.

All in all, my top priority for a handset is an excellent physical keyboard. I used the original SKs from the day they were released in 2002 until 2007. Since that time I used an original iPhone, a T-Mobile G1, an iPhone 3GS, and a T-Mobile G2. I am very pleased with my SK4G. It is easily the best Android phone I have used for my purposes.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] moonrock:
Anyone tried to do the lag fix from the Galaxy? I'm too chicken s#!t to try it myself ;)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Haven't tried it myself.... guess I'm sorta waiting for custom ROMs, which hopefully will have such fixes baked in :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] CharlieBoy808:
Wow! This post took off and now we have a forum section.

So weird thing happened to me though. After I rooted I grabbed my backed up apps from my vibrant and restored them to my SK4G. Ran into a few widget problems, but that was solved by moving apps installed to SD into the phone. Then I tried to back up my ROM with ROM Manager and when it rebooted it didn't back up anything. It just showed me an option to reboot. Any ideas what may be wrong? I'm probably missing some simple file I'm guessing.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Did Rom Manager work on the Vibrant? I am weary of that app because it didn't work at all on the Epic, and in fact could even cause problems. Haven't tried it on this phone yet.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] aidenb:
Used SuperOneClick to root my SK4G with Vibrant drivers installed. Worked great.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] badboi_zero:
How would we go about unrooting if we needed to?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ayoteddy:
i just ordered my SK4G and im going to try to help as much as possible to help out even without the phone lol.

theres a One Click Root/UnRoot Program for PC/MAC that easily Roots and Unroots.

Would like for someone to test, it worked on all the other SGS phones so im guessing it'd work here the same way the epics root method works. good thing is this way we can easily unroot if we need to return the phone and such

heres the post to the Root/Unroot program in vibrant Forums : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=739300
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] orthopak:
one click root exploit 2.5

Is anybody else getting an error message when trying to unrar the one.click.root file? I use winrar and I see all the files but when I try to extract it says archive is unkown format or damaged. I've tried downloading from different threads and sources and I get the same thing. Any help appreciated, thanks
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ultraprimeomega:
try 7-zip, might be format issue, even if winrar sees it

And for the rest of this thread, not wanting to step on any toes(not until i get a sk4g). But can someone make a new thread or Wreximus can you edit the first thread with the info we know works like recovery mode and rooting.

Just for organized forum thread before it hits 200 pages, and the newbies that will come.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] aidenb:
I really hope CM or some other custom roms are made for the sidekick 4g soon... I really wanna see what Gingerbread would be like on this device. :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] kriffer:
i second that
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] CharlieBoy808:
Actually ROM Manager worked pretty well on the Vibrant. I really just want to backup what is currently running on my SK just incase I go an do something stupid with my phone so :-)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ayoteddy:
anyone was able to successfully get root access and have a recovery ? maybe CWM from epic or ROM manager ?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Yep, some of us rooted with the one-click root and recovery for the Epic... worked great, and gave us Clockwork Recovery 2.5.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Lol, I hear ya. If you have Clockwork Recovery, you can make a backup in there... that's what I always did with my Epic.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] CharlieBoy808:
I just realized why *in a n00b fashion* why ROM Manager didn't work the first time I tried it... I need to Flash ClockWorkMod Recovery first. The only problem is, the list of available devices it has:

Fascinate

Vibrant

Captivate

Tab

Epic4G

i9000

So the question is, which one do you all think would work? I'm going to start with the Vibrant and see what happens. I hope not to brick my new phone :confused:
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] xIrandomIx:
tell me how that works out for you. I tried vibrant but that didn't work.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] CharlieBoy808:
Fascinate: Fail

Vibrant: Fail

Captivate: Fail

Epic4G: Fail I guess considering that I need to do some manual installation of something... So I guess they are all going to fail. I'm not going to try the Tab stuff so I guess this isn't going to work until someone makes a good update. :(
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] xIrandomIx:
I got clockwork working. with the epic oneclick root.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=770388
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] CharlieBoy808:
Hey! That did work! Only one problem... now that i do have it CWM doesn't work in the normal fashion haha. From what I have found the camera shutter button will move your selector in a certain direction and the mic button on the qwerty is enter... i think i was mashing buttons and i think that was the last one i pushed. weird isn't it?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Ace42:
It wasn't meant for this device so it doesn't detect the correct inputs. We must wait for a real one to be compiled instead.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] CharlieBoy808:
haha i figured just in case anyone else wants to give it a try it isn't easy to play with lol :D;)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] 904boricua:
just got done rooting my gf sk4g..the only thing that didn't work was these scripts..i restarted the phone and root seemed to work fine..are these scripts necessary or should i be fine:confused:

-adb shell echo “root::0:0:root:/data/local:/system/bin/sh” > /etc/passwd

-adb shell echo “root::0:” > /etc/group
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ayoteddy:
So the Epics method did work ? You have full root access even after a reboot ? And I saw a few pages back the mic is enter and vol+ is up, whats down then.. ? Camera or Vol- ? And does the recovery reconize you internal SD ?

I think we may have a fully working clockwork.. Aside the wierd button navigation. But that does mean we can start modding ;)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ayoteddy:
I've contacted the Dev of CWM and ROM manager, Hopefully we'll get some feed back and he can code up something nice (Clockwork Recovery for SK4G through ROM Manager Option ? ;) ]

sucks cause the SK4G was released the same day as the G2x and they already have CM7 Nightlies :(
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Well, I've been having some problems with Clockwork mounting the sdcard, as some others have mentioned. It is a problem when making nandroid backup, because the backup doesn't seem to get saved to the sdcard. Has anyone successfully made and saved a nandroid yet?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] syph0r:
any word on unroot? i was thinking bout rooting mine but it has to go back in a couple days.. does unroot work?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
i just tried this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=747598

but it failed. it said i "still have the power", haha.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] mr_black03:
its gsm and android...if unlocked i dont see why it wouldnt...

this may honestly be my next phone...the only thing i dont like is the 3MP rear cam...whomp whomp. I just switched back to tmo so this prolly the 1.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] xIrandomIx:
I think I might have found the answer for the cw not recognizing the sd.

After you do the one click epic4g root go into rom manager and flash the vibrant cw and boot into recovery.

That worked for me I do it everytime before I go to recovery and I don't have any problems anymore.

Oh and the button layout goes back to normal.

Someone else test and confirm this please?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Hey cool... gimme a bit and I'll try it.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] xIrandomIx:
Nevermind no need to flash everytime before you go into recovery. Just flash to vibrant and it should work.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Unfortunately, it didn't seem to work for me. Rom Manager said it flashed Clockwork for the Vibrant, but I still had the same problems with the sdcard in Clockwork.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] xIrandomIx:
try press the vol + when boot in to recovery after flashing the vibrant cw.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ehall2k7:
Unrooting - Need Help Please -

So I got rooted using the epic root listed in this thread (somewhere around page 6 I think), but I've been experiencing a lot of random reboots (5 - 10 a day) even before rooting, it happened a few times (I didn't keep it unrooted very long). I want to unroot it so I can get it replaced, but the unrooting program didn't work that was listed on the same epic rooting post. Does anyone know how I can unroot this so I can restore it to factory?

I would greatly appreciate any help or suggestions.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
with the Epic 4G, i always flashed the factory stock ROM using Odin, and it worked great.... unrooted and fully back to factory. i posed the question in another thread if it would be possible to have a tar file of the stock SK4G ROM that we could use this way....
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] blu9987:
Attached is noobnl's one click root uninstaller. I edited the bat and removed the kernel flashing part and deleted the zflash and redbend files just incase so nobody accidentally flashes them.

When I get back from class i'll mess around with trying to dev some more and see if i can do anything still have too much to learn though... seems like many of the genius xda devs are skipping this phone :/

edit: removed zip due to errors
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ehall2k7:
You are awesome. Thanks so much. Will give it a try when I get home from church. Was gonna see if i could pull the recovery from the dump and figure out a way to manipulate it into the epic unrooting program I tried earlier. But I'm not the greatest at hacking. Give me something graphical and I'll conquer it all day long.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] blu9987:
Oh yea so I was in a rush earlier and forgot that you'd have to remove CWM recovery and the redirector.. doh.

that zip will just remove superuser, but not CWM recovery
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] xIrandomIx:
So does anyone know when the Development for this phone is going to pick up? Specifically CWM?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Ace42:
http://project-voodoo.org/porting

Wanted to share this
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] blu9987:
I have much to learn still and can't get into it until after finals, i dunno if/when any more experienced people will show up though...
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
yeah, I think this could be a really nice, fast, slick phone, but it's gonna need some work, lol..... and I'm not sure how much interest there is in it. oh well, maybe we can all learn together how to develop some for it. the Froyo on this phone seems kinda clunky to me.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ehall2k7:
I tried the program you attached but it said it failed because the files were read only. Thanks again for trying. Good luck on your finals. I'll let you and everyone know if I figure it out.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] blu9987:
Heres my attempt at a real one click uninstaler + stock recovery flasher

Click here

also if anyone is interested in it i'm thinking of banding together a dev team where we can learn more about developing for android and help each other figure out problems and such.

edit updated link
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Randy Power:
Is voodoo usable on sidekick?

Thanks for the link. It seems promising. Do you know if any of voodoo is usable on the sidekick yet? In particular, I'm hoping lagfix is usable & safe. None of the FAQs or downloads mention the sidekick that I could find.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Ace42:
I was sharing for others only, a voodoo kernel is needed to actually have the lagfix for this device. So we must wait for one to be compiled.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Randy Power:
Roger that, ace. Thanks.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] besthijacker:
It does not work for me :/

Is there a way to unroot? at least to remove superuser?

I have to ship it today to get it exchaged, do you think they will care if the phone is rooted or not?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] blu9987:
Rooting voids warranty, though some techs won't care.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] besthijacker:
Oh, it does? Well, I think I managed to unroot by using SuperOneClick

Superuser app is gone. I think I should be good. We will see in couple of days.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] EpicUserName:
Sprint?

Will there be a way any time soon to get it to work on sprint, I have the epic 4g, and i love the phone, but... I would love the keyboard of the sidekick again.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Wreximus:
It won't work on Sprint because it takes a sim card
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] sly20krazy:
yes this does work. thanks!!!!!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] tylermaciaszek:
there is one rom at the moment its called smooth maximus x made by ayoteddy.

its very smooth and stable.

its is featured after honeycomb

very minimal bloatware.

kernel:2.6.32.9 bali

battery life is amazing.

amazing look quick very responsive easy to install.

i would suggest it to anyone.

click this link for the offical thread.

http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=1127479
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Juicynpink:
I am trying to find a link to superclickone. Does anyone have it? And how do I get it to open?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] sduvick:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=superoneclick

it's an exe, just double click on it.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] waterstander:
I rooted my sdk 4g (not to be confused with the environment sdk) the day I got it. Netflix is running some other mods been playing with Rome but nothing sticks, to many projects not enough time.

Sent from the droid on roids!