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[Fascinate General] times_infinity:
Well if it means anything I pmed ashasaur as soon as this thread started going downhill. So expect for this thread to be closed soon.
[Fascinate General] sunder74:
Ok...ok he posted in the wrong place and did it intentionally. There are rules and one of them is posting appropriately...but there are others like NO flaming. Funny how you guys pick and choose when and what rules apply. But there are moderators who enforce these rules. Let them do their job and unless they apoint you as a forum sheriff leave it to them. I think you guys should put away the torches and the pitchforks.
[Fascinate General] kriddle04:
oh no its been up for X amount of hours this is just ridiculous! Man people are mean on here!
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
i was refering to the mess that most development forums become at some point (and this was back in the fall)
[Fascinate General] acidbath5546:
Was JT here? It smells like he farted...
[Fascinate General] johntinman:
I like turtles.
[Fascinate General] tripacer99:
I love how 90% of the posts so far are about what forum this thread should be in, instead of the topic at hand. xda forums just crack me up sometimes.

But seriously, I just find it funny that 2.3 is rolling out and we're still (officially) on 2.1. Stay classy, verizon.
[Fascinate General] starscream84:
The clutter of the thread, devs edit their first post to make the files available, have you ever tried to find a fix inside a thread??? Almost impossible because there are 100 pages of nothing mixed in with 1 post of useful info. Only devs should be able to post in the development section, because all I want to see is what they created, and what they have to say about it.

I don't care about the galaxy s getting f'ing GB, I don't have that phone and I don't F'ing live in europe. Useless thread.
[Fascinate General] Scrappy1:
This is a trainwreck, yet I can't look away.
[Fascinate General] rand4ll:
If everyone is so worried about this post cluttering the development section then why keep replying on it and keeping it on page 1? Seriously! I agree, it's like a bunch of children. I sympathize with the mods, though many times they are just as involved as the members
[Fascinate General] ChrisDDD:
Yea, wow, are you like 8 years old?

But in so doing, everyone contributes to the very clutter that's supposedly so intolerable. How about after the first person points out a misplaced post - everyone else just keep quiet, as any further input is unnecessary and precisely the type of clutter that the forum rules try to avoid.
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
normally when its a new xda member mistakenly posting in development i dont bother saying anything unless no one else has

when its someone with several hundred posts intentionally doing something stupid and then not backing down and admitting their mistake but rather arguing why it should be here....i feel its a different story

should this policing be necessary? no...but this thread has been reported multiple times for hours and nothing has been done...so it kinda becomes like neighborhood watch mentality when the mods are mia
[Fascinate General] landshark68:
Hey Chris,

I believe you are the same Chris3D from AC, and so you know you and I have agreed on almost everything we have discussed over there. Just thought I would throw this out there to try and bring a little bit of peace to this part of the discussion. From my viewpoint, the clutter that nitsuj and the others are referring to is the thread itself being in the development section. Once it is here, the size of the thread is irrelevant to the clutter in the forum. Just the fact that the thread and any threads like it are in the development section is what is cluttering the forum. Just seemed like the two of you had differing definitions of "clutter" and was hoping to mediate a little. If I'm out of place or getting in the way, I'm sorry.
[Fascinate General] pdb23103:
Paper or plastic?
[Fascinate General] ashasaur:
Folks. I'm not even gonna say it.

SHIELDS UP!

RED ALERT!

Thread CLOSED.

And by the way, Syn Ack and some of you others that constantly spam the dev section with this crap have been issued infractions. Any beef should be PM'd to me. The reason this took so long to get closed is cause im at work.

Moderated from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk Pro.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yeahman45:
ok.. here's my problem.. i stored my contacts phone numbers without the country code... i had problems with sms or phone calls.... that i couldn't recognise them when incoming number came with country code...

so i changed all my phone numbers and added the country code... issue with sms has been resolved using handcent sms but for phone calls.. when incoming number is without country code.. it does not recognize it!!! very frustrating!!!

my old SE w700i didn't have this trivial problem
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moscow Desire:
Have you tried saving the incoming call number to the contact (overwrite the existing)?

I recall having the same issue on a .... nokia smartphone. Was a mess. Until I overwrote the existing contact number with the new. Problem solved with both sms and calls.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yeahman45:
problem sometimes incoming number comes with country code and sometimes no... i just can't save 2 numbers for each contact.. what a mess... any fix?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nocx:
Sorry about reviving an old thread, but has this been fixed?

I come from Redux 1.2 ROM. With Stock Desire, was having this issue, but not with Redux. Now I went back to HTC Sense based ROMs: InsertCoin v25 and RCMixHD 1.4 and the problem is back. Now, not even Handcent can see the contact names (it could on stock Desire, where Message app failed)...

Any help on this?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yeahman45:
i think it is htc sense doing that... i have just installed cyanogen 7 and does not seem to have this issue. is redux a sense rom? if it is not, then that's surely htc sense which is causing the issue
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nocx:
I think it's HTC Sense too.

Redux was a no-Sense ROM.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yeahman45:
i was prefixer to kind of solve this issue.. just add a rule in prefixer to append your country code to each incoming phone number and match it with your contacts... this is the only workaround i have found... but if you can live without sense, go for a senseless rom like cyanogenmod 7(i am using atm) or some other roms
[About XDA developers] argonarcel:
Hey everyone. I was wondering if any of you know how to change your profile picture.
[About XDA developers] prwnd:
yea I'm looking for it, too
[About XDA developers] the_scotsman:
Go to User CP. On the left under "Your Profile", choose "Edit Profile Picture".

or click here :p
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpkilla995:
need help with this problen
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
flash into xrecovery and wipe battery stats!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
Also, calibrate your battery. Fully charge, remove battery, reinstall battery, fully charge again. Repeat 2-3 times until says 100%.

Stock charges to around 88%.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] batman_112:
Read this thread: [GUIDE] X10 Battery Calibration
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blior32017:
My battery is also causing trouble

I put the phone in charger is loading the phone up to 88 then stops

And when I take out and put in the charger my phone charges up to 100

While the charger still connected is again removed the battery to 88

I have to use the directory that you brought?

Sorry for my english lol
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david.uren22:
Yeah calibrating your battery almost always will help. Check the market if you haven't yet. There are a couple Apps that will help do it.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blior32017:
Ok thnx :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a2441918:
dont use your phone while in charge and then see the status of ur battery.. if u use ur phone while charging, it never charges up fully..

Pls hit a thanks if u r satisfied:-)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ricardofago:
I experience this when I leave my X10 charging all night long (turned on). It seems it charges up to 100% and then keeps draining it, despite the connected charger. Have you ever tried offline charging?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blior32017:
I want to charge it when it is turned off. But I do not know if he filled it to the end. Because I do not know what percentage has

That there is no sign of a fully charged battery
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mike420:
hey guys ive had the fascinate since first week its launched and im just now finally gonna root it and so thats why im here i know how to root the phone but im so totally confused on how to put like superclean and other roms on it ive read for hours about kernels and radios and roms but its all confusing ive rooted my dads og befor ota froyo was out and flashed that on his phone for him but that was so long ago so i was wondering after i root my fascinate what i need to do next to get superclean or another rom on there and whats the deal with kernels and radios.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpark_12:
Flash the radio via odin, the rom, kernels, and themes are flashed via cwr.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpark_12:
Here's an excellent write up on how to do everything...step by step

http://forum.androidcentral.com/ver...0058-how-first-time-rooting-walk-through.html
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mike420:
thanks for the quick responses guys, y ive always loved this community fast answers, lots of info and friendly ppl. thanks again well on my way to root and flash i reckon
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpark_12:
Sweet! Let us know how it turns out
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I hope this time it's the correct forum.

So long story short.

I've written an app that allows to hijack FaceBook profiles over the WiFi. So when you're connected to WiFi you can "hack" into other users profiles. It doesn't work for profiles using SSL (yes you have that option in FB). So it can be treated as a "bad app". BUT! it is not dangerous for the one using it. I am aware that this is "questionable" application, but is there any other way to tell people - "HEY! use secure connections, it is not safe to use public WIFI!". I'd bet that a lot of you don't use SSL now and after using/reading this app you will turn SSL on.

That could be the #1 reason for deleting my app.

The second one is that I've put a 'demo' app in the market with a limit to sniffing only 3 profiles. But you could buy it through paypal. And today I've found out that this also could lead to app deletion. However i've bought launcherpro through paypal so I don't see why my app was removed in less than 24 hours.

What is your opinion and what can I do to sell my app somehow (i need my 25$ back that I've paid to register in google wrr...). Is there an option I could do put it in market without google deleting it like putting a disclaimer or something? The app itself is safe for the user downloading it.

Edit: If I put a link to this app here will this thread be deleted? If so, is there an option to promote it here?

Per forum rules, link removed
[Android Apps and Games] JamesC_:
There's your answer.
[Android Apps and Games] traumatism:
+1 on that

if it allows you to hijack fb you can steal other information from the users account so why would they allow it and put themselves into a legal bind for doing so
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
So if it wasn't for this app you would be safe? No, facebook is ignoring users privacy and this app is nothing more then a good way to show people what could be the cost of not using secure connections. Of course this can be used in a bad way, a lot of apps can. Like sms bombing or phone number spoofing. But they are not removed from the marked do they?
[Android Apps and Games] wdl1908:
Ethics

And even worse you want to get paid for it.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Yes, I know what ethic is however we're not living in a perfect world and just believing that everyone is good and ethical so I can just leave my door open when leaving the house is not going to protect me against the reality. I believe in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure and this case is even better because FaceBook is aware of the problem and just ignore it. A few people are aware that there's an option to use SSL on facebook. In my opinion FB should just get it done right and force users to use it. It's not a problem these days right? And what is wrong in getting paid for my work. I've spent some time developing it. Security by obscurity is not working, really. Take my app for example it would take max 1h to crack it. It's not security it's just being to lazy to secure it. And hoping that no one would care to crack it.
[Android Apps and Games] traumatism:
sms bombing is not hacking someones account! you are just spamming someone with messages.

even if it is down to fb to let people know about security, the market owners can be sued for allowing such an app on the market. there are better ways of showing a person how unsecure a connection is without punishing them in such a way.

the secure connection is useful for public connections but some people may not want or need to use it at home so they have the ability to switch it on or off. apparently there are issues with some games on fb that are linked in with the use of the secure connection.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
People are killed for spamming in russia (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/26/russian_spammer_killed/)

And what about spoofing caller id? AFAIK that things are valid in court cases in Poland.

I don't know how to tell people - secure yourself any other way. I know i'm devils (myself) advocate right now, but really do you think that forgetting about insecurity is a good way? I don't force anyone to use it in a bad way. But after I showed how it works in my house all my room-mates turned SSL on instantly. And they were not mad about it, shocked a bit but now they are safer now. Sure you can just tell people - hey turn ssl on and 90% of them will ignore you. But when you show them - look! i can see your messages that easily if you don't do it. Then they would listen.
[Android Apps and Games] MarkusPO:
haha! So, if someone got a gun and went around shooting people in cars to proove that they should actually have bullet proof windows and burst-proof tyres, that it's all ok, and not in any way shape or form, illegal?

ha. ha.

infact op ip should be reported to facebook
[Android Apps and Games] hazard99:
By nature I wouldn't go near this app. If its collecting other peoples info I could be collecting my own. Thats how I see it logically ... people always get screwed when they are doing something they shouldn't be doing.

There is a place for all apps in this world be they good or bad. You could always host a site and put it on there. I wouldn't go near it cause once again I'd be afraid of whats laced on that site.

I was just providing another point of view to the convo.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
So if you have a car that can be opened by someone who has a screwdriver wouldn't you want car manufacturer to secure your car. Buying a bulletproof car isn't exactly the same as pushing a button in a web browser isn't it? And you're comparing killing a man to posting "I'm a jackass on someones FB wall". But still, you can buy a gun right? Also pretending that there's no problem isn't fixing a problem.

And hey, this app isn't new you know, if it wasn't for this thread maybe you wouldn't know that people use this apps on PC's maybe one day you would find that all your mail is gone (yes, this app could be modified to work with other sites like this forum). And ask yourself wouldn't you be pissed if you've found out that anyone using your network could get into your bank account? Well I would. But most (all?) banks use SSL by default. Google does. Why FB doesn't?
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Yes, in fact it needs root to modify iptables and send raw arp messages and I know people get scared when an app needs root. If someone is interested I could write here how it's done and anyone could write it. It's actually nothing magical.

I wrote this app as a project for my mobile programming class. In the first version it also sniffed for Gadu-Gadu messages (it's a polish messenger). But I sure hope that when and if this app let's loose than FB will react and enable ssl by default. Maybe other websites will use it too. It's just that easy to protect your users, I don't understand why they don't do it?
[Android Apps and Games] traumatism:
most people who do not want their details stolen, do not use public access internet. does FB take money transactions over their site?

google does and the banks do so they will have a secure section. fb may do this using paypal or google checkout or otherwise so may not need the ssl that the banks need. sure it still renders people vulnerable to attack and theft of other information but even so that information is very limited dependant on the user of the account.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Yes, so other people want their details stolen? You are aware of the problem 'cause your "into computers" but out of 500 milion fb users how many of them ever heard of SSL? How many know that they are unsafe?
[Android Apps and Games] traumatism:
well with the amount of messages being spread on fb already about this i think more people will know, but to let people know only by stealing their details is pathetic. sure you may have made this app for a project but why give other people the power to do this. all you are doing is providing more uses for those who like to make other peoples lives a misery. the best thing that could be done with this is to let the website provider know how unsecure their system is. especially if you are aware of the issue and are bothered by it. i know i'd do the same. if that didnt work, sure i'd tell people about it but i wouldnt sell an app on to others so they can make use of it. not even for free.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Sure I could write an e-mail to facebook, but this issue is known for years! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_hijacking I am sure FaceBook is aware of it. In fact they've enabled SSL only a month ago (maybe two months) but why it isn't enabled by default?
[Android Apps and Games] traumatism:
who knows. perhaps issues with other applications on the website, or applications made to access facebook. they may have left it so they can cater for other applications for and on the site. only they can answer that question.
[Android Apps and Games] Blezz:
anyway, he just showed the spirit of a developer and created something new

he never told anyone "hey go hack facebook profiles" or "sniff those profiles, its fun"

he just showed the possibilites of android development and did nothing wrong in my opinion

it's not his fault if facebook is unable to close a security leak known for a long time
[Android Apps and Games] traumatism:
yeah dont get me wrong blezz i understand that completely. but the argument was as to why they would remove it. legality reasons would be tne main issue. to cover their own backs as they can in fact face legal action for allowing the app to become available in their market.
[Android Apps and Games] xriderx66:
I don't see anything wrong with the app.

It shows the flaws of facebook, and the fact that no one in facebook cares enough to do anything about it. But then I understand whygoogle would remove it... If facebook decided to sue for this google would be sued not YOU.

so it would be best if you released it HERE on xda rather than the market
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Sure I would post it here! But then this thread would be deleted am I right?

So there's no option for me to publish it. And once again ignorance wins.
[Android Apps and Games] xriderx66:
Try pming a mod and ask them if itd be okay to publish your app here.
[Android Apps and Games] traumatism:
i dont think the thread would be deleted. the best people to ask are the admins. check terms and conditions etc for it. if its an app you want people to purchase, set something up that can be linked to from here.
[Android Apps and Games] Izkata:
While I agree that SSL should be enabled by default, this is the worst possible way to go about it.

Accidents on facebook have ruined people's lives before. Imagine what would happen if this app stayed on the market, where anyone with a grudge could use it.
[Android Apps and Games] traumatism:
i understand what you are saying, but not one of those articles can back up your argument as they are all relating to photos that the user has in fact taken and posted up themselves. you cant really argue with the use of the app with just that. i agree the app is bad and shouldnt be used but kudos to the guy for pointing out the insecurities of facebook without ssl.
[Android Apps and Games] Tekti:
This app is awesome :) works for me :)
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I'll do it. Can you tell me to whom I should send pm to? I don't know who is mod here...
[Android Apps and Games] traumatism:
zepiii may be your mod. if you go to the forum section for this thread it tells ya near the bottom.
[Android Apps and Games] stian230:
Ethical and moral reasons pushed aside. Can you post your app so it is possible to test it.

(I do not have facebook profile) :rolleyes:
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I've asked mod if it's okey to post it here and I'm waiting for reply. I've sent you PM with link to it for now.
[Android Apps and Games] stian230:
yes please. ,,,
[Android Apps and Games] deejaylobo:
I would like to test too. Just enabled SSL thanks to this thread. Want to see if it works/stops working when I disable/enable.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
PM sent. Darn, I sure would like to post link here :)

+1 secured person here.
[Android Apps and Games] stian230:
Ok waiting for a jerk to log on to facebook on my net. he he sweet

edit : watchdog came with four alarms followed by a random reboot. :(
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
What is watchdog? And what alarms? And it shouldn't reboot your device at most it could FC. Do you have any firewall installed - it clears iptables on startup. And what device and rom do you have?
[Android Apps and Games] stian230:
watchdog is an app that measures the amount of resources any app uses. if an app uses more than 40% an alarm go of. faceniff was up to 80% then the random reboot . wil test it again.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Well when it's running ALL network from WiFi is transferred over your mobile. That means your mobile acts as a router for your network. If someone is downloading something then your device is downloading it also. And it analyses every packet sent over the network that can lead to a LOT of cpu usage. On my desire however it went up to 15% when 5mbit's was downloaded through net... (On first run it copies an executable from res to /data/ it can lead to IO Load if you can't run it after that it would mean copying was interrupted by reboot and you will need to uninstall and install again. I have a confirmation it works with galaxy S Vibrant with MIUI. And I can post a video of this working on Desire with CM7. From my point of view You will need:

1) root

2) iptables

3) sane kernel that allows to craft packets
[Android Apps and Games] stian230:
Ok that explains a bit. My stepson plays on the PS3 on my network. it explains for the high cpu usage.
[Android Apps and Games] xheavymetaldadx:
So this is along the same lines as slapping a child while telling them not hit......
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I would disagree. In a company I've worked a year ago there was a 'tradition' if someone left his PC unlocked anyone could get to it open mail and send "I invite ALL of you to get free cookie!" to all@ourdomain that way it was 1) tasty 2) he would never ever leave his laptop open 3) everyone had a good laugh. And no one ever get offended by it.
[Android Apps and Games] Morganator:
WOW yumm:D This app is it somewhat similar to firesheep on computers then?