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[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Jotokun:
You could try Opera Mini with the image quality set to low. Its how I get by on it.

For me, I've found that AT&T is about 200kb above whatever I actually use. I consider myself lucky to not have the issue as badly as most people seem to.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] WiredPirate:
Here is some images of my usage, about half way through the billing month now. Att shows higher usage than 3gW:
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] KefkaticFanatic:
I've compared the two at various instances throughout the month using the AT&T data text check thing, and it appears that the reading fluctuates between being too high and too low on different cycles, but it generally is very close. (never more than ~50mb off)
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Magoodigan:
Mine are always off by a MB or 2 a day.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] CaelanT:
If you are on a 200MB plan, that 50MB = 25% of your monthly usage allowance!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
Hi Guys,

I actually have a HD7m but my dad quite liked the 4.3 inch screen and was now asking me to buy a similar handset. We went out and he was quite impressed with the Desire HD.

But the catch, when I researched online, I found out the battery issue on practically every thread and community.

Now my problem: He is an old man and can get cranky at times. Currently owes a Nokia C6 and is pissed with the touch screen. So is it wise to buy him Desire HD even with the bad battery life?

Or worse case scenario, I swap my HD7 for his Desire HD????

Should I go for it or should can you guys suggest something else equally fluid??
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FirefighterDown:
It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
Hey,

Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?

I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?

He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andy:
If its battery life your after, buy a Johns Phone, you get 3 weeks between charges.

After you battery has been "run in" and calibrated you will get at least a day with light usage. Remember this is a powerful smartphone.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawks556:
The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.

And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
Thanx so much...that was really helpful...albeit your explanation on battery life, I just wanted to add that he was in love with the 4.3 inch screen...and only HD7 is the other device with that screen size...So I think Desire S is also a good option...let me check with him...

Again, Thanx!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baste07:
depend on what you consider a good battery life, some may say getting a day is good enough, but some define good as atleast 2 days.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjt:
Absolutely right. I'm tired of hearing people evangelising that the DHD's battery is fine. It patently is not. Even when you severly rein back the device's features (features which HTC flaunted to get us all hooked), one ends up with 25-30% at the day's end.... And if you have a 'heavy' day of calls/browsing etc, you'll have to top up to get through the day.

But I still regard HTC as just about the best of a bad bunch...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andy:
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.

The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.

These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.

Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.

If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.

If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjt:
I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.

It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.

HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.

In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chaosdestiny:
I don't Say ! ^^
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawks556:
That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.

I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.

And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.

When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.

Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ivolol:
If you want to receive emails and text, I find that GSM is fine for that. If you want to go internet browsing, just switch on to 3G.

Smartphones these days have basically a different definition of battery life to the old nokia symbian and similar phones of old. Those could go up to a week. Smartphones on the other hand are considered awesome if they can last 3.

I do have to say ultimately I think HTC sold the battery life a bit short on the DHD. 1230mah I think is really just making way for all the other top-of-the-line features that it had when it came out.

HTC have released a great number of variants of this phone now, all with better iterations of design and also with bigger batteries because of this.

1400-1500mah (or even above) I think is really what you need with a 4.3" display phone. 1230 would be far more acceptable for a <4" display. Although it can be made quite livable for a day or two with an excellent custom rom, I don't really think it's enough for a basic consumer using the standard rom. That and the speaker/audio out are the two biggest pitfalls of the DHD imo.

Sensation is now HTC's newest 4.3" phone which has a good 1500mah battery. I hope Sense 3.0 doesn't wear it down too fast!

Ultimate thoughts: Although it's a great phone, I think it's a power user's phone more than anything. You will definitely only get the best out of it by customising to it's best potential, which is also when you get acceptable battery life. If you don't, it really does seem a waste.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aust S5:
+1

I had the same sort of expectancy out of the battery using it moderately during a day at work out of the box. However with custom ROM installed I have found the battery to last easily the whole day with the same usage and probably have approx 40 - 50% left after 15hrs on battery.

just my 2c:)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
I am extremely sorry but I disagree with u completely. You are talking as if you buy an expensive car but dont drive it too much as it eats a lot of fuel. If you want to just drive around, why dont you just get yourself a mopet. The point is, i have bought an expensive car TO DRIVE it around. If I buy a smartphone and not use its SMART features, why am I buying it for??? If I practically shut all the reasons why I bought this phone, WHY the hell am I buying it??

There is an old saying that comes to mind that it takes guts to stay in the minority. If the battery is flawed, ACCEPT it.

Anyways, I have got my answer. Thanx for your reply nonetheless.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpinky:
As everyone says depends on usage.

For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.

Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
Hey thanx man...But was just wondering, with very moderate usage, will it still be over in no time?

Also, the other thing worrying me is the memory card issue...I cant afford to lose one card after another once I buy an expensive phone, u know what I mean...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawks556:
The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger :p

There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaaystott:
After receiving a replacement 'new' phone, and having problems with my SD Card from the very second it switched on, I complained to HTC about the issue and the man on the end of the phone admitted around 500,000 phones that had been dispatched has been shipped with KNOWN issues & SD Card incapabilities. If you went out today and bought a brand spanking new card, in theory the phone WOULD NOT and the SD Card WOULD NOT fail.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaaystott:
I don't mean to hijack you here mate, but you assume/claim that:

'HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job.'

Well I take it that you assume this on the basis that Leprechauns are real and are roaming New York city as we speak? If HTC were doing any market research at all, they would realize that even devices with smaller screens have a bigger battery than the one they have put into the DhD, including the Desire Z & Desire's batteries?

I remember when I was looking at reviews for the original Desire, as I fancied one, the main complaints were the battery life, and the fact people only got a day's charge on it. So I thought fair do's, big screen, big price to pay? If HTC had done any research, they would have realized that people wanted better battery life, a better quality screen, better sound quality?

You want to know what the real reason is behind HTC putting a small battery inside the Device? Well it's the fact that the entire thing was rushed, and I mean rushed? There's evidence of this in the build quality, the software, the placing of different things within the phone and also the bad batch issues HTC experienced.

The HD was leaked in September/October, it was released by November, this is not normal for any device that becomes 'leaked'. HTC used a bad screen, imported most of the software from the original Desire, obviously making edits to make it Sense 2.0, but you can clearly see they didn't change everything? If you set the Android Pattern Lock Screen, you can see that it doesn't fill the whole screen, the IME is the standard HTC one with some arrows slapped in at the bottom? They didn't even change the size of the keyboard?, this is more evident if you use the IME in landscape mode, its hard.

What sort of company places an Antenna in the Battery Cover? It's true, remove your Battery Cover and you'll loose all signal? Pretty risky move for HTC, seeing as the Battery Cover is VERY easy to 'accidently' break, and frankly your screwed then right? It's like they designed the phone, forgot the Antenna, then quickly though 'Where the f*** is this going?' and decided to place it there? In my opinion, and a few others, they did this with the battery, they made the device too thin, and in reality they just couldn't fit everything in. The Desire S which is slightly thicker, packs a brilliant battery. Problem solved.

The build quality of the phone, is not one of a £500 price tag. Some parts of the phone squeak whereas others just do not feel adequate to the pricing of the device. There again we live in a world where no matter how much you pay, something always seems to be wrong.

Sorry if I have offended any HTC lovers, all attacks on my and opinions against me are welcome, don't get me wrong, I love my phone and I can cope with charging the battery every night. Chao.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
Dude...i absolutely absolutely agree with you. In fact the comment "where the **** is this going??' actually made me lol. I asked this question for my poor old man who was struggling with the Nokia C6. I couldn't see him struggling everyday when I shamelessly flew on my HD7...so, problem solved. He now has a uber cool Xperia X10, luster white (white is his fav color.) When I showed him the device, he loved it. And not to mention we got it for a great deal too.

So, overall, it was a great day. And I love my dad. His happiness equals my happiness.

I sincerely thank all you guys for your comments and contribution. Cheers!!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrylzy:
You can use CM7 and UV kernels..These help you to save more battery.
[Click General] tajimura:
What if I remove stock contacts/dialer app and replace it with, say, PB2.0 or Contapps? What result do I get?

I'm intended to fully replace stock contacts, and get something with smartdial and more handsome in-call screen.
[Click General] nikson346:
Android would let you choose between the stock and the 3rd party contact apps.
[Venue Pro General] SeniorHuevo:
Ever since the Venue Pro appeared on the German and UK dell sites I've been checking my local dell site, modifying the respective URLs for their Dutch counterpart. Lo' and behold, today the URLs checked out.

Private:

www dell.com/nl/p/mobile-venue-pro/pd?refid=mobile-venue-pro&s=dhs&cs=dedhs1&~ck=mn

Business:

www dell.com/nl/bedrijven/p/p/mobile-venue-pro/pd?refid=mobile-venue-pro&s=bsd&cs=debsdt1&~ck=mn

(Sorry, can't post real links yet)

The description might still be in English and I may not be able to order one yet, but until today those links returned an error.

Perhaps this is also true for other countries...

Cheers,
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MadBob:
After flashing the recommendation is to recalibrate the battery, or let the phone do it over several charging cycles. Any idea how this would work using two batteries?

I have two genuine SGS batteries and swap them over when necessary. Does always keeping one charged and swapping mess the stats up.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jim5055:
I am in the same boat. v9.5 ROM and two Samsung batteries. Swapping them does not seem to make much difference. I did do a few full discharge and charge cycles to begin with with the one battery. Getting the same run time out of each battery now.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
No real difference if both are fully charged .

The rom drains the battery not the stats the stats play less of a part than people think .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrPendulum:
I'm using AllShare to stream music from my Galaxy S to my WD TV Live. The WD TV Live is configured correctly, I stream from my Windows 7 machines all the time to it.

The music is all 320kbps MP3's (100% legal. I'm serious, no joke). The songs start fine, and I turn the phone's screen off and put it down. But after a minute or two the track starts skipping about, and 5 seconds later it completely stops. I power on the phone, go back into all-share, and I can press play on the track again.

I suspect this is something going idle in the phone. I've already ensured that the wi-fi sleep policy is set to never.

Is there something I'm missing here?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrPendulum:
Apologies for bumping, but I really hope that someone has an idea on how to fix this.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] branalvere:
Sounds like a voltage drop when the screen sleeps.

What ROM / kernel/ are you using?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrPendulum:
All stock. It's an Optus (Australia) branded ROM.

Firmware 2.2

Baseband I9000DTJP3

Kernel 2.6.32.9 root@SE-S604 #7

Build FROYO.DTJP5
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jyth:
i was originally on cm 6.1.3 v054 bb54 by wolfbreak, i then flashed bb52, applied the patch and reboot for signal, after the signal is ready, i rebooted again and flash ZTkernel and rebooted again, then i got 'system is not responding' with no signals.. it can't even detect my sim card! why is it happening? help anyone?
[Android Themes] Sgt-Hartley:
Can I sing framework-res.apk with zipsign or a simlar app don't have access to PC at moment. If so which key is best to sign it with. Thanks in advance.
[Android Themes] marcnvidic:
Depends,

You could use the htc kitchen

or try signapk (if you have the android source)
[Android Themes] Sgt-Hartley:
Thanks, didnt realise ninja morph could do what I needed.
[Android Themes] Macrodroid:
No need to sign system apk's, if you do, it will bootloop...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cstrife999:
I was just wondering why someone would want to flash a new radio? I don't have any problems with the one I am running and would like to know the benefits of running another radio. I wouldn't say I'm new to this, but my main phone for the longest time was the Fascinate and the only reason we had to flash new radios was for new firmware updates (official and otherwise). Just wanted to know potential benefits and drawbacks. I like to tinker so basically is it worth it, or is it just going to cause me a headache?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenHolliday:
For most there is no need to update a radio, for others in outskirts of cell area or those who are having issues, it can have some good/bad results. I know on the latest EVO radio it did several a world of good with GPS lock and accuracy.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1035955

My results from the radio update.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12966263&postcount=114

If you're not sure about flashing a radio... DON'T!!!!! It's one of the easiest ways to screw the pooch and brick your phone.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elixir911911:
Mainly if you aren't having problems with your phone the way it is then probably try to steer clear of radios for tinkering purposes.....like the guy right above me said it can be very dangerous and result in a brick.....if you ever start having signal problems on any sort of transmission in your phone ie cell 3g WiFi gps etc then maybe look into it. But for right now just ignore em lol
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rubber soul:
flashing the radio really isn't worth the risk imo. it's the easiest way to brick your phone, and the likelyhood of you gaining anything from it are minimal. tinkerers like to tinker, and tinkerers will tinker with what is tinkerable.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k_nivesout:
So how exactly do you brick your phone flashing a radio? I've flashed several radios and its pretty damn easy..
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cstrife999:
Alright. Thanks guys. I live in a pretty well covered area. Well that saves me lots of trouble. :-)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poontab:
Like to know that as well.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannyg37:
I say tinker, I was so afraid to flash a new radio, because so many threads made it sound so dangerous, and basically what I learned from all the threads, 1) check the md5 sum to verify the files integrity before using, 2) make sure your phone has adequate charge, and 3) do not pull your battery while doing it or if you think it is not doing anything, give it sufficient time before attempting to do anything else. Other than that I feel it is pretty painless, and has always taken me no more than a minute or so to do! I say have fun, just research and understand what you are doing, before attempting anything!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SteveG12543:
My understanding is that:

If the file integrity somehow is screwed up and you try to flash, brick.

If you flash it on a low battery and your phone dies mid-flash/during the first boot, brick.

If you pull the battery mid-flash/during the first boot, brick.

MD5 sum is your friend. Always check yours with the one provided and make sure they match. They're risky, so I hear, but I try every new radio that comes out lol... Running the 11.19 one atm.

Sent from my Droid Incredible running CM7.