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[Thunderbolt General] HawkStream:
Ok so I have only had my Thunderbolt for 26 hours but the kickstand is just a total utter joke! At first I was shocked and appalled that they would design the kickstand so you couldn’t use it and have the USB plugged in at the same time. As bad as that is I don’t really see myself using the kickstand that much…

But it covers the speaker!!?!?! Who designs a speaker and then says... “Ok let’s put a flush tight steel plate over the top of it”?!?!?

It clearly muffles the sound in all uses of the phone. Even if you can hear ok you know it will sound better if the kickstand is out. So I’m walking around talking on speaker with the kickstand out! Watching YouTube with the kickstand out! Just a joke!

So the mod I want is to be able to remove the kickstand all together. I can’t wait for the YouTube video that shows me how to take my phone apart so I can get that dumb piece of steel out of the way!
[Thunderbolt General] nerozehl:
Hahaha +1

I totally agree with you, that kickstand/USB design is FUBAR! I can't believe someone signed off on that. And then, as you said, someone was brilliant enough to put the speaker behind it! It almost seems like a cruel joke!
[Thunderbolt General] HawkStream:
OK I just did the magnet test on that dumb piece of metal and its aluminum… Same thing… I want it off of the front of my speaker!
[Thunderbolt General] patdroid1:
you know you can stand it up with the kickstand and charge at the same time right???

i agree with the speaker thing...had to do a double take to see if they really put the speaker there...doesn't bother me anymore tho
[Thunderbolt General] HawkStream:
And everyone was like “yeah stay away from Motorola and Samsung... HTC’s quality and designs are just so much better…”

And here it is, their flagship phone (for a few weeks) has one of the stupidest design flaws I could ever dream up!

:(
[Thunderbolt General] HawkStream:
Yeah you do a lot of video and movie watching with the phone upright do you? Cant wait for the Netflix app so you can watch movies upright???

:rolleyes:
[Thunderbolt General] Forgetfull:
The kickstand is sweet. Watching movies and tv is so much better. Though I wish the usb was on the bottom of the phone.but then the desk mount wouldn't work...
[Thunderbolt General] patdroid1:
you didn't say watch video...you just said USB plugged in lol!

just giving you a hard time...all in all i like the kickstand but yes it could have been designed better overall
[Thunderbolt General] HawkStream:
So even though maybe 5% of Thunderbolt owners have a desk mount you ruin the kick stand… You couldn’t redesign the desk mount to plug-in on a side or have a cable that pugs in on top, or have USB ports on both sides?? This is the flagship phone after all…

And forget all that. So they have to do it that way for the 5% of desk mount buyers and promote people to shell out more money for them... fine.

But don’t cover the bloody speaker with the piece of metal!!
[Thunderbolt General] superchilpil:
This thread is a joke, if you don't like it the return it.... Don't cry to the masses about it, specially since 90% of people on this particular forum are for this device not against it

HTC made a mistake, so what? This phone is effing awesome and makes up for that and so much more
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
If you want to use the kickstand and charge at the same time you could use it the opposite way. Let me get my other phone and take a pic real quick.
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
Here is what I meant. Of course not as stable as the correct way, but it works.
[Thunderbolt General] Old MuckenMire:
Heck I cannot even hear a difference in the speaker with the kickstand open or closed. I love the kickstand and I love the way the TB sounds and I've never even needed to charge and use the kickstand at the same time. The OP should have considered this stuff before he bought it if it bothers him so much.
[Thunderbolt General] SoCalMiles:
I just pop-in the spare battery....I rock my kickstand to the grave!
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
Actually a good quick mod for using the kickstand in the opposite way is you could put something on the end of it like a sticky bump thing (sorry didn't know the technical term for that). This will put the device at a more perpendicular viewing angle (albeit viewable) but also by gravity, take less stress off the hinge thus having it not close as easily. Most of the weight would would be distributed across the side of the phone that is touching the table surface. Sorry it is 10 PM in hawaii so I couldn't find a sticky bump thing to explain what I meant so I just leaned it against my old Pre sleeve.
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
Sorry, forgot to attach the pics.
[Thunderbolt General] Forgetfull:
In this case, a picture was worth well over 1000 words...
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
Yup sorry about that, I kind of just thought of that now. I have been using the original way I posted for a couple days now at work and every once in a while someone would bump the table and the phone would fall backward.

When taking these pictures I wondered why it felt more sturdy in different places on my couch. Then I noticed that the surface on the couch was not flat like a table and saw that the more perindicular angle puts more weight on the phone rather than the hinge. Funny how things turn out sometimes.
[Thunderbolt General] Forgetfull:
I never thought of using it that way, but heck it works.
[Thunderbolt General] mcmillanje:
Two threads down like this exact same thread. Just sayin.

Good idea using it upside-down.
[Thunderbolt General] HawkStream:
LOL plug in a USB cable and try to take those same pics with out glue or some other prop... I Dare you!
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
DARE?! What the hell, are we in grade school? You could have just asked. I wouldn't care if it falls down, it will just fall backwards and I already said it fell back a few times. Lastly, why the hell would I put glue on my phone?
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
?

Here you go, but like I said it works better with something underneath it. When I have time to go to the store I think a sticky rubber thing would work good. Like what glass tables use to rest the glass on the table frame.

The cord can hinder or help it stay up. The added weight at the top pulls the phone down when at the normal viewing angle, but if you make the phone more perpendicular it negates that. But if you place the cord against the surface it displaces some of the weight on it.

Anyways enough about this, didn't want it to hijack your thread. Just thought I'd share since others might not have known about that. Back to discussion about audio and the effect the kickstand plays. (I personally believe there is a difference when kickstand open but could care less about it). If someone wants to open a discussion about using the kickstand in the opposite way, go ahead.
[Thunderbolt General] HawkStream:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sPr84FkQpE

Here is my take...
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
That was pretty funny...

You should mix in some music behind it. Like a Charlie Chaplin movie or something...
[Thunderbolt General] johnchad14:
maybe an improvised kickstand lock would be of use. In my head I want to just jam a piece of gum into the hinge to hold it open. Maybe a small triangle of something. I feel like there's some perfect little object to put in there to hold it in place. A bottlecap sorta works but is not very secure. Brainstorm!
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
OK after watching your video I have one last idea and post. I promise I didn't mean to hijack the thread.

When I said I did this a couple times at work I clarify and say that I did this twice. Basically because all I do is watch like a 20 min show (normally a cartoon, I have recently been watching the old 1980's transformers cartoons) during my lunch break. I normally don't charge it and I use the kickstand like normal while watching the video because at only 20 mins I would normally have enough battery. Now there has been two times where I did have to plug it in while watching the video, but all I would do is set up the video and carefully set it down. I would just let it sit there not having to touch the screen. So once it was down, it would just stay there. A couple times a coworker came by and accidentally bumped the table and caused the phone to fall backward. I would then just set it back up and continue watching the show.

Now, after watching your video and seeing how it responds if someone wants to set it that way and navigate with the touchscreen like browsing on-line or on this fine forum. When the screen is touched combined with the weight from the cable it would cause the phone to fall. What you can do (see pics for reference) is plug the cable into the phone, run it up and then under the kickstand bringing the cable towards you to the front of the phone. That will distribute the weight to the cable and the tension of the cable will act almost as an added kickstand. Then run the cable back underneath the phone to the back near the top of phone or earpiece area. If you look from above it will form a U shape. This will make it level. Now you can navigate on the screen without it falling down as much. Of course not as well as having the kickstand in the normal position, but definitely usable. Again if you press hard or often I am sure it might fall and if you need to use it like that a lot than shelling out the extra $ for the cradle might be beneficial. But if not, this is kind of ghetto but better than paying about another $50 for the cradle.

It's past midnight here in Hawaii and I need to get to bed. Best of luck y'all!
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
That's what I was thinking also. Probably could just roll up like a piece of fabric or napkin and put it in the hinge.
[Thunderbolt General] Killershade:
I do not understand the particular design for this as well. But. Why not just unplug it while you watch the video or whatever? I mean...wait I just had a great idea. Grab a piece of cardboard and fashion it into a box shape. Then just punch a hole through the bottom of it and there you go. Instant charge friendly stand! I think I might do that right now. Can't take more than a few minutes.
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
LOL! Yup, then put the HTC logo on it and you could sell it for $35!
[Thunderbolt General] JBO1018:
Why are there two threads about this?? Can you not leave your *****ing in one thread?

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] Killershade:
Or the apple logo and sell it for $100! Oh wait its not for the iphone...but no wait its got the logo on it. People will buy it.
[Thunderbolt General] SirBindy:
People will always find something to complain about. I've said this before, and I'll say it again:

If you didn't bother to go physically check out the phone before you decided to buy it, you don't get to complain about the problems you would have easily noticed.
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
Haha. True dat!
[Thunderbolt General] Robertus:
My phone won't stand up in upside-down landscape mode with the kickstand flat against a table. But if I put the USB charging cable in and run it behind the phone like one normally would it adds just enough extra support to help out the kickstand and it is fairly stable. Would be better if HTC had used a stronger spring but this works for me. But I don't like the way the cable sticks up straight in the air so I'm going to get a down-angle USB cord which will look better and should also provide a little bit more support.

As for the kickstand and the speaker issue, I notice that with the kickstand open, there is a little bit more high-end but that just means that it sounds a little more tinny with kickstand open. It doesn't seem to affect volume, at least not that I can notice. For a phone, this speaker is pretty good, but it's just a phone speaker, for goodness' sake, we're not talking high fidelity. If you want really good sound, you have to use headphones.
[Thunderbolt General] bmx5656:
Don't wait for a YouTube video, I'll help you out, all you need is a Dremel and a cut off wheel, then you have your Tb kickstand mod.
[Thunderbolt General] Killershade:
I just want to reiterate that anyone concerned about sound quality for videos on youtube and movies is not using the external speaker. Go buy a pair of ear buds for your $700 phone guys. If you have a friend with you hook up some computer speakers. Also why are you watching movies with a friend on your Thunderbolt. That screen is tiny for that. Stop that ****.
[Thunderbolt General] mcmillanje:
Nice idea guys. I like how you guys are actually being productive while the other thread about this is just a bunch of whiny flamers.

Bravo.
[General Questions and Answers] dustbowl:
hey guys iam looking for a working rsdlite cant find one thats working help please
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dude64:
Hi I need help with a strange problem. I'm experiencing it so far with the sense weather and twitter, they are both not updating. On the htc sense weather widget, it updates the weather for the other added cities but fails to update for the current location. I have tried restarting and wi-fi to no avail. The twitter app is the official one and the widget fails to update, however the app itself does. I have tried removing and re-adding the sense clock app. Any help or ideas please? it is really annoying. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GrimReaper24:
Try a full wipe what recover u using. Use amon and do a full wipe and you should be good to go.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dude64:
I would hate to do a full wipe just for that. Noticed this behavior after installing kasperky mobile security. I have uninstalled the app and restarted the device, that didn't help. Anyone else had a same problem and found a solution other than a full wipe? What would be a good backup software for a non-rooted device, in case push comes to shove and that's the only option I'm left with? Thanks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GrimReaper24:
Try clearing your cache man really no need for anti virus. The phone works like linux so unless you run something bad for root which no app should need then your all good. Why you afraid to do a full wipe just do a nan backup and you can do a full wipe to see if it fixes it if it doesn't just restore your backup,
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wampuscat:
Don't guess you've used that program Autostarts to stop unneeded apps from running at different times. I've ran into all sorts of different minor issues by stoppin programs from starting that didn't even seem relevant. Just a thought
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dude64:
Naah I didn't ever use Autostarts. I did use Kaspersky, and I'm highly suspicious that is the culprit. Anyway, thanks for the help, I didn't do a full wipe, I cleared the data on HTC Sense, and re-installed the twitter app. That has solved the problem for now.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
Does anyone know how i would go about editing the background color of the app drawer for a sense 2.0 rom or a z rom for example warm z which has a transparent app drawer. Is there anyway i could make it black?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenHolliday:
Don't know if you use ADW but just loaded "y0rk's Black ADW theme" the other day, it gives a black apps tray that has a slight transparency to it. All other folders have a jet black background as well.
[EVO 4G General] skatrwannabe3:
I have no Dev experience

I try different ROMs daily, from Cyanogen to Virus to ACS (Koni, Kings, thanks to you all) and back: I'm wondering if the best of these Dev's lifework couldn't be combined?

Here's what I'd love to see-

The performance of ACS meets the asthetics and tweakage of Cyanogen meets something entirely different from Sense (I like the Synergy v3.5 best, myself) and throw in free Mobile Hotspot for good measure.

Wish I had an input on Kernals and recoverys, just never studied up.

I can only hope a Dev stumbles upon this thread and cooks something up. All I can say is, as a Sprint employee, I know the phones. I'll help if I can, simply looking to get something started.

Post your hearts out, especially if you have ROM suggestions

*Simply the opinions of a Daily Rider*
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
As a Sprint employee, you might want to be careful about what you post on here, specifically "free hotspot" and other things Sprint does not condone of it's employees.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
As long as he doesn't put his real name or have facebooks linked I think he should be fine.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
You would be surprised at how involved Sprint is with people that post on forums, facebook, myspace, youtube, etc. I myself have been talked to by corporate security already.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
I worked for t-mobile for 4 years in the past and I leaked pics, info all kinds of ish and I never got caught lol. I guess it depends on how you go about it. Of course when I did work for tmobile its not like they would find out dirkyd3rks's true identity anyways. I was just smart about it, always 1 step ahead.
[EVO 4G General] jalai:
...have you tried VaelPak yet?
[EVO 4G General] skatrwannabe3:
I liked Vaelpak, except for the bat life. Didn't try any of the new versions tho.
[EVO 4G General] skatrwannabe3:
Half my customers ask me to root their devices, most everyone within my company under 30 have rooted; people know about this stuff without even really knowing what goes into it. What can Sprint do to me when their are hundreds of YouTube vids posted showing how to root and which Rom is good, etc? These companies may be watching, but can't do a thing about it. Like Big Brother Lite haha
[EVO 4G General] jstalford:
I got excellent battery life on VaelPak, and it's the first thing that came to mind when I read the OP. Performance is on par with with any other ROM and has all the customizability you could ask for.

On any of the more popular ROMs, battery life should be good unless an app is misbehaving or the kernel isn't playing nice (imho).
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
What can they do? Exactly what moto is... encrypt the boot loader.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Wrong attitude to have. They can fire you.

Sent from my spaceship!
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
yea it's horrible
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
^^^^^^^^^

this !!!!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Lol @ your honestly
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
just my opinion
[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
I am uncertain what this thread is?

A req for a ROM he'll love?

A req for "the best parts of all the ROMs he loves, cooked together in some unspecified vague manner, bug free and working for him"?

Frankly, if I was a dev here, I would be kinda... insulted.

(lol, as a "sprint employee", perhaps then you could Give a dev or two a phone of their choice, that might inspire them. :rolleyes: )
[EVO 4G General] skatrwannabe3:
I can't be fired from a company I don't directly work for. Especially considering I'll be of almost no use to a Dev and have yet to "leak" anything
[EVO 4G General] skatrwannabe3:
Might be more of a request for people, like yourself, with nothing helpful to add to find another post. Hopefully one far, far away.
[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
LOL. indeed. very interesting. do go on.

Fixed that for ya!

[EDIT: by golly, judging from you previous posts and the one following, you sure are aggressive and antagonistic to others you've never met! Expecting to make some friends here? Endear yourself to the community at large? Good start! :) ]
[EVO 4G General] skatrwannabe3:
Assuming your handle stems from personal experience and not some hypothetical situation, I would expect a more liberal approach to "following the rules" so to speak. If Sprint is too busy paying people to surf Xda for people like me "hypothetically" instead of pouring money into Clearwire and the WiMax network, then we can basically kiss nationwide 4G goodbye
[EVO 4G General] skatrwannabe3:
So what supersecret incredible ROM do you have available for us here at the XDA Community, kingdaisy?
[EVO 4G General] skatrwannabe3:
Kingdazy, however misguided, makes a valid point as far as my replies are concerned. I started this post as a breeding ground for ideas, not to belittle the people who post. My apologies.
[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
Well, Mr Wannaba,

I am not a dev, nor claim to be. But, I have donated to a few for their hard work. Have you?

And, while still not being a dev, I Do try and be a helpful member of the community, when possible. At least an active one.

And having been here for a bit now, I know full well that there IS an amazing group of devs here, that work Very Hard at bringing us the ROMs that we have. Each and every dev pouring their lifes blood into their work, bringing us the best looking, and most functional Evo ROMs on the planet.

I would personally never have the balls to show up with less than 10 posts in the forums, and req something "better" than what they already provide us. Frankly, that's crass, and disrespectful.

I suggest you "lurk more" and get to know the community, and the work that the devs have already done, before blindly req'ing something.

Good luck.

Now see! That's big of you, and I can respect that.

I sincerely hope you can spend some time here, get to know the work as it stands, the hurdles that are still ahead, and get to know the community in general. Very fine people here. ;)

[edit in response to the following post:

well, that was short lived. And your attempts to use "history" as an example of what this thread was supposed to be?... wow. lol.

And also interesting that you didn't actually respond to anything I actually said. Anyhoo. Have fun, see you 'round. ;) ]
[EVO 4G General] skatrwannabe3:
Mr. Dazy

Have you ever heard of a thinktank? To you think Albert Einstein wouldn't have appreciated someone trying to think up a better version of the nuclear weapons used in WWII? I'm insulted by your assumption that I would have Devs tear apart each others work, often personally developed and kindly shared, just to add free hotspot to a cyanogen base. Regardless of your time in Xda, you don't know me. I ask that you do not patronize me, attempt to teach me lessons, or assume that you're better than anyone else; lurking or posting.
[EVO 4G General] Rem3Dy:
How is it horrible?
[EVO 4G General] deathsled:
honestly, if you want your "SuperROM" you should just learn to make it yourself.

Cooking roms is surprisingly easy. A lot of the things you like are simply theme and kernel choices. Everything down to the smallest tweaks are so well documented here that anyone can implement them into a rom.

It took me almost no time at all to figure out how to get cooking and bust out a tweaked rom for Cricket users.
[General Questions and Answers] just2getaDL:
i humbly ask for advice.

When switching to a new memory card

can i just copy and paste all folders and files to a new bigger card?

new card is freshly formatted to fat32

current card/phone has custom kernel/rom installed rooted etc. etc.

Rom installed is here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1009220&highlight=update.zip

total lurker noob who spent 4 hours getting that rom up and running which is amazing btw, so much better than what at&t provides.
[General Questions and Answers] x249541389:
Of course you can ~
[General Questions and Answers] k_nivesout:
Yep I got a new card a bit ago and just copied the files on the old card onto the laptop and then onto the new card, worked fine!
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] andrey22vl:
MultiTasking Pro v1.54

Requirements: Android OS 2.1 - 2.3

Overview: Quickly switch between running apps for a list of the currently running tasks.

- The application activate when using double-press on HOME key.

- Long press on the Home(icon) button to terminate all running applications.

What's in this version:

performance improved.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Sgt-Hartley:
Nice little app thanks, is it your work?