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[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
You are correct, I just looked at the Acer. Had no interest in touching it, although I did have a quick flick around on the screen since the tablet itself was in a holder.

Still looks overall quite ugly, but the screen was certainly brighter than the XOOM.

I won't buy Acer hardware though, they tend to bite off more than they can chew and their hardware commits suicide. Seen it time and time again.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hal752:
double post...
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mith500:
Check the battery life comments:

slashgear's review of the a500:

http://www.slashgear.com/acer-iconia...view-20147156/

Android communitys review:

http://androidcommunity.com/acer-iconia-tab-a500-review-20110420/
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anstelios:
Relax Acer-hater;)

I had 2 acer laptops including the one i m using now (ASPIRE 5920G, i have it for about 3 years now) and had zero problems!

As about the Xoom vs A500, i havent seen the Xoom with my eyes, but what i reed from user experiences is that it has a plastic feel and is difficult to hold because of the small bezel.

A500 has an aluminium cover that has a metal feel when holding it , and has a big bezel so you can easily hold it any way you like ( so is larger in total size than the xoom despite having same screen sizes).

Apart from holding issues i personally really like how this bigger bezel and overall the A500 looks! And you call it ugly?? Really?

I also have been reading about some bugs and issues xoom is having.

Well after 4 days with A500 now i still havent come across any serius issue.

Anyway i think its all about personal opinions.. i like my A500 and i m sure i made a correct choice.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
Heh, I don't "hate" Acer, that's a strong word, I "hate" Apple, and that's very different.

Acer make fantastic hardware specs for the price but from my experience of countless Acer hardware particularly laptops etc from my days repairing them as a student at university, I can honestly say I would never buy one of their laptops.

As for the Tablet I can't really say, in a side by side comparison it looks ugly next to the XOOM, granted the XOOM has no bezel so it's slightly harder to hold single handed but i'd use both hands and can reach most of the bottom half of the screen.

As for fuctionality it certainly seems at this point the Acer is doing better.

Preference, of course, and for me, after seeing them side by side it's the XOOM hands down. (Discounting the problems with the SD slot, because i know either I or someone else will fix it when need be.)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tumbes20000:
Acer is acer. Not much as changed as far as quality from that company in regards to their desktops and laptops. They are still mainly geared towards the asian and developing country markets. Their US market penatration has dropped signficantly and a lot has to do with support and "ok" build quality. From a tablet pov I have no idea, but I would imagine that the quality would be similar.

Still its good that their are other firms producing honeycomb tablets. If it was just motorola it would be a harder to push app devs and google to get off their a$$es and support honeycomb more!
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
It's quite right, I'm a dev in my day job and I have a XOOM on pre-order but still having a hard time convincing the boss that we should focus on Honeycomb/Android Tablet because they just don't have the penetration yet..
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tumbes20000:
That chicken or the egg thing really sucks sometimes
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
It's true, but on the other hand, I spend some of my free time currently developing Honeycomb specific apps, if they help the community when they're released, great, if they can convince my boss to let me develop apps for it specially, that's even greater still.

All I can say is don't worry, it will come in time, Honeycomb is a different kettle of fish to the other Android builds, and to take proper advantage of it will take a little time but will be worth it.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tumbes20000:
Well thanks in adavance for promoting honeycomb. Users like myself are certainly grateful.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
almost considered iconia over xoom or transformer - until i saw the the xoom and transformer do 16million colors vs the iconia's 256k colors. is that verified though? i see multiple specs that show iconia does 16 million and some that say 256k.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wonder Strike:
End of the day I wouldn't worry about the screen specs. The screen is fantastic. I couldn't care less what the specs say, when the screen is a joy to use.

Regarding looks, yes the Xoom looked nicer. However, once you stick a good case with fold out stand on it, you'll only see the screen anyway.

Also I'd say in the UK at least Motorola are not a big brand. I'd say Acer are bigger.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ken5000:
Prices

Hey guys. Just to give you an idea about the prices in Greece. The cheapest xoom (wifi only) costs 721 euros and the cheapest iconia (wifi only, 32gb) costs 469 euros. I also don't have much respect for Acer hardware but 252 euros is quite a difference. What do you think?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
since I deal a lot in image correction screen specs are a must. less colors it's able to display will result in banding. I'd have to assume that the 16m is correct as I've not seen anyone complain about banding.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mitthraw:
Saw the A500 box today at Best Buy, it says 262k colors.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnny0911:
Definitely go with the xoom, I know it is expensive but well worth it.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wonder Strike:
In Currys both the Xoom and Acer looked good. I think if people play on them they would like them, and hopefully go with them over the iPad.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
crap, and i'm one of those people who actually notice the difference.:(
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mitthraw:
I think having the 32GB internal on the Xoom plus 16.7mil colors vs

16GB internal on the A500 and 262k colors

is it worth the ~$140-150 difference. (Good Class 10 16GB cards run anywhere from $50-$80, and I am no talking about the cheap $30 class 2) and the most you could expand the A500 to is 48GB with a 32GB card, the Xoom can go to 64GB.

I also like the Xoom Docks.

By the time I fill up the internal 32GB the SD card fix will be out.

I think I am going with the Xoom.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
adding gorilla glass and dual band wifi also adds value the xoom if those features are important.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] appelflap:
Played with the Iconia today. The screens seems more responsive, the screendumps matches the colors on the device (pretty interesting for a developer :-) ), sound is better when you hold it in your hands (Xoom has a reflective speaker. You need to lay it down on a table to get full sound.) It feels more plastic than the Xoom. Xoom is smaller, but somehow you don't notice this while using the devices. Acer has a vibrator, Xoom not.

I would say that in the end it is a matter of taste (although it is definitely worthwhile to compare the screen sensitivity) . Overall I was most impressed by the fact that the devices seems so similar with respect to the use of honeycomb. I think Google learned quite quick from Microsoft :-)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
I had a good long play with them side by side today. I take back what I said about the Acer its very solid and performance is good. I ran screen ghosting test on both and it was significantly more prominent on the XOOM.

Performance was even on both otherwise and XOOM browser was ever so slightly faster with flash installed versus the iconia which had no flash. Kernel versions and OS Versions were the same aside from the obvious mods on the iconia. Overall the XOOM is much slicker looking and feeling and the weight difference gives the XOOM more of a quality feel.

Iconia had a slightly modified camera app with internal/SD switch.

Couldn't get on market to install benchmark app and my XOOM refused to Bluetooth it over.

On Max brightness iconia was brighter but XOOM more vibrant.

Touch screen response on the iconia is very smooth and comparable to the XOOM.

Iconia has the USB port, XOOM doesn't, just bought myself an otg cable from eBay.

Not much more I can say.

For me, XOOM is worth the extra 2 hundred quid for the build quality.

If you're strapped for cash go for the iconia its a very worthy tablet.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MitchRapp:
32gb solid build and google experience - gimme the XOOM any day.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acebogomir:
I bought the iconia yesterday (best buy - by the way their sales people suck) and have to say I'm basically satisfied. I also played with the Xoom side by side but didn't like the touchscreen it did not feel as smooth as the Acer.

although some points you might want to consider couldn't compare those to the xoom though.

iconia has mini Usb and normal but can't be used to charge the device

You need an own power adapter which is bulky and the cable is less then 2 feet long. Thats really unconvenient

There are no accessories specially cases available yet. I'm sure will come though

Doesn't have exchange support out of the box (need to use touchdown or other software) if I remember correct the xoom does.

Overall because of ther price and features I would buy the Iconia again.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radamand:
I had the xoom for 2 weeks before the acer came out.

returned the xoom and got the acer, and glad I did.

I am much happier with the acer.

The only thing that bothers me is not having a dedicated forum here on xda or on android central...
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keitht:
Can you let us know what you like about the Acer compared to the Xoom?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shobirama:
GPS chip in Iconia?

I saw the Iconia at my local BB had 'GPS' on the sticker along the bezel.

Can anyone tell me if the Iconia has a true GPS chip like the Xoom? or is it strictly Assisted GPS/Cellular triangulation/etc?

I realize it's new and PDAdb.net might not have the most up to date spec sheet, but I'm not seeing GPS listed.

(sorry, I can't post link to the spec sheet)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] armychris28210:
http://www.phonespecs.org/acer-iconia-tab-a500/

specs

not givin up my xoom
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
1024x1280, that can't be right?

Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shobirama:
PDAdb.net lists the resolution at 1280 x 800
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
so many different cofigs of the same hardware make it hard to pick the perfect tablet. it's great that you have these kinds of choices with android.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acebogomir:
The device itself shows 1280x800 as well this is correct
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gentlemancock:
720p video capture

So one of the things that for some reason nobody really cares about is the 720p video capture from the xoom. Unfortunately, ACER A500 doesn't have that feature which means that video capture probably sucks. I called ACER tech support and their senior level tech support couldn't even answer the question. They had to go off reviews from Best-Buy.

Total lost of credibility there. The first rep from India didn't even have a clue either.

I may just keep my xoom now.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] actualeddie:
I like to watch a lot of downloaded videos, with the ipad thats just a joke. Do these both support the same file types?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kokanee483:
I find that the only people who complain about the power button being on the rear of the xoom, have not actually owned one. It's not a big deal, once you know where it is, it's easy to hit it, stop ripping on one little button if you cannot find any actual design flaws to gripe about.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kokanee483:
I can only speak for the xoom, no problems playing xvid or even 720p .mkv's or .mp4's. I have been using rock player instead of the stock player fyi.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
I spent about 20 secons pressing the camera hole on my galaxy tab today before i looked up to see the xoom onthe desk haha

Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Torquemada288:
Hack-A-Tab?

I've had a look at both and they both have their finer points. What will seal the deal for me will be their ease of customisation.

Can anyone give me the state of play regarding how well each device deals with hacking, such as the ability to root the device, recovery options, bootloader locking and custom ROM flashing?

From what I've read, the Xoom seems to be more mod friendly but I'm not sure to what extent that is true. Doesn't the A500 lack a recovery option and have a locked bootloader? If so, looks like Acer will have to learn the hard lessons that Moto did with their phone releases. If the Android community wanted "closed" we'd just go buy an iPhone/iPad.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robjvan:
Both my laptops and my wife's netbook are Acer. I actually chose the Aspire 5552g after playing with a Samsung and Toshiba laptop. I know they had quality problems in the past, but the build quality on their mobile products is actually really good. My laptops have no flex in the lid, the keyboards are sturdy and they've both been dropped and show no damage from it. I also really like their TimelineX series (high-end lappies) with the metal on the lid.

I think I'll be picking up an Iconia sooner or later too...

Or wait for Padfone ...
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elizabeth05:
Iconia Tab A500's price is much lower than xoom, but it seems as powerful as xoom. so i purchas the iconia tab. however, it seems heavier.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deolarte:
what about the Toshiba Thrive, 32 Gb? it seems alot better then both, and cheaper.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nthknd:
the thrive will be 579 for the 32 g I got my xoom for 579 at best buy really thevsame price infact the 10.1 32g is 599 same difference
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robjvan:
The way most tabs seem to have the same specs, it really comes down to personal preference. I've read that the Xoom is higher quality, that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is the premium unit, that the EeePad is superior due to it's IPS display and matching keyboard. The Thrive has fancy switchable backplates, and loads of connectivity.

They all are running 3.1, and will sooner or later be on 3.2 and so on. They all have: 10.1" screen, dual cameras, Tegra 2, 1GB RAM, 16/32GB.. the list of matching specs goes on. Each tab has it's own unique innovations that should sway your decision.

I personally chose the Iconia over the EeePad Transformer or Xoom because I actually like the extra weight of the unit, the brushed aluminum look on the back, and the integrated Dolby sound features. I was sold on the EeePad with it's better screen and keyboard/battery dock, but it's lack of camera flash is a dealbreaker for me. Just an example of your needs and wants should dictate which tab you purchase. The brand name doesn't matter - most of these tabs are the companies first venture into Android tablet territory, do you really think they would release a **** product as their introductory one? Pick what you like, and what you're going to still like after using it for a while. Or find a store with a no-questions return policy, and try a few for a couple days at a time. The generic "It doesn't suit my needs, it's not what I'm looking for" excuse is relatively unchallenged by most customer service staff. I swapped my laptop three times at one Future Shop before settling.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kosenn:
I went to buy an Acer tablet but ended up with the xoom. After comparing the build quality up close I changed my mind a bought the xoom for $400, the original price was $500. A $100 off coupon for the Xoom helped me make that decision. Although the Acer is a nice tablet, I have no buyers remorse.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrongfeifong:
Seriously, i think acer a500 is a horrible product compare to XOOM

Let me explain why:

1. A500 is a lot heavier then xoom, god, i used the tablet for half an hour holding, i switch more hundred different angles of handling it. It is too heavy! for a tablet. Xoom on the other hand is light, very light not light enough to compare with Ipad2 but i can still hold it up for an hour without switching hands.

2. A500 does not have native support for h264 or H263, heck, not even half of what XOOM can play. You are not going to be able to watch half of the movie a XOOM can watch, unless you like using handbrake to convert every movie, i personally don't. I like to transfer them and go.

3. The a500 have a lot more junks in the system then XOOM, yes you got 3 games already in there, unless you are a fan of "driving, golf and poke and slash". You found those games useless.

4. 2.4ghz on 802n only, not dual band. I get "low to almost no wifi" connection after going across 2 rooms away from my N router

5. The corners are quite pointy actually.

6. the wall charger is bulky, not for "travel" but good for international travel if you manage to buy the spare wall chargers head

7. the speakers are "below" locate at where most people hold the screen at, easily covering the speakers.

8. the screen feel jerky and accelerometer is overly sensitive, hate the part where i get portrait for laying it landscape, i do like that "lock" on the top but my a500 was slow as heck. XOOM is a lot more responsive.

9. a500 last 6 hours..not 10 hours. I recharged many time, same results.

Things i like a500 over XOOM.

1. it viberate! But playing NFS for half an hour my hand got paralyzed.

2. Screen and sound quality is definitely a lot better.

3. USB the best part, maybe you can use a HDD storage, i personally never tried.

Problems i have with a500 is that, i have to factory reset for every install/update. YES, this is a common problem.

and wall charging will make the screen non-responsive time from time.

oh Last thing about the ACer a500 is..

well good luck to you guys down in the wood, pretty sure your a500 won't save you with the GPS.. assuming you can even juice out 7 hours of battery from it.

a500's GPS is one of the worse GPS i ever see, slow to pick up slow to fix.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robjvan:
Most of that sounds like personal preference... Having my phone, I'd never waste battery trying to use the GPS on the tab, unless I absolutely must.

The weight of the product - well, I don't seem to have any problems holding the A500 elevated for an extended period of time, maybe you should just use it for weight lifting and build up them arms of yours. :p

How many tabs DO have 5GHz WiFi N? Yes, the Xoom does, probably the Ipad 2 - but most don't. Hell, a lot of netbooks and laptops still don't have 5GHz. You need multiple antennas, which would raise the cost of the unit, it is that big a deal? Most people, if they put their router on 5GHz band - would eff up the connection with existing devices, connected to 2.4, or WiFi G even. I've also had no problems with reception. My Dlink WiFi-N router is in the basement, and I have reception throughout both floors of my house, and out to the garage even. I can comfortably sit in the backyard, bbqin' and sipping a beer surfing the net on my A500.

I think the "golf, racing, poke and slash" combo is perfect to test out games. Just adb and remove the ones you don't want. I find the stock experience on the Xoom to be very boring - doesn't make me want to use the tablet. Also - h264 support? Does it need native support? Download Rockplayer and problem solved. My gripe would be that it has issues with 1080p files, but big deal. Screen is closer to 720p, and why waste the extra storage space having files that are far more detailed than they need to be. Hell, Youtube 480p videos look just fine. I think people whining that it doesn't support HD files are just being pixel-whores.

I should add - I'm not knocking your conclusions - everyone's entitled to their opinion. I'm just .. countering.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mschmiedel:
Well, had a chance to use both in the last few weeks. For Mexico, the Xoom costs (after 70USD discount) 720USD, and the 16GB A500 costs 440USD, and Ipad2 32GB costs 680USD. Maybe if A500 and Zoom had similar pricetags I would choose the Xoom, but a higher pricetag than the Ipad is just far out of question for me and I don't know what Motorola is thinking...

Will be getting rid of my Dell Duo (bad choice) and get the A500 plus a cheap i3 laptop with a big screen, think this combo will make my life much better...

Someone mentioned that Acer was thinking more about developing countries. Maybe it's just that, Motorola and Samsung are way too expensive in Mexico. The Galaxy Tab (7 inch with Froyo) is a few tens of dollars more expensive than the A500.

What happens then? I will go for Acer, the Xoom is just not worth a 63% higher pricetag...
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okantomi:
Good luck with your Acer.
[Bada Software Development] MCLP:
amazing its been almost a year since bada came out and at the moment we cannot even see one simple manga reader app(i mean the person who does it will surely get allot off profit.)android and apple allredy have an average off 30 to choose from but bada does not even have one. its realy depressing to have phone who can much do what an iphone does but there is only a little amount off people supporting it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
This is a script that can be used to allow cache to be either

directly mounted

symlinked

and then the /cache/recovery to directly be mounted in the cache mtd partition

The purpose of this script is to allow the downloads from the market as well, for ROM Manager to work with cLK. This script will still work with MAGLDR, and if that one day has the reboot reason flags set in the future, then ROM Manager will work. Don't ask me when !!!

Any bugs or problems, then report in this thread.

Anybody have any problems, for debugging, please report the following details

ls -l /
ls -l /cache
ls -l /cache/recovery
mount
df

Download the script from the attachement

unzip the file

copy the file onto the phone "adb push 02recov /system/etc/init.d/."

reboot phone

cedesmith - for cLK

seadersn - for new CWM versions

koush - adding CWM to ROM Manager

friends from the cLK thread for testing the script

lastly don't forget the THANKS button
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
just in-case
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pronor:
WOW this is sure becoming a very big thing! Thank-you.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
Recovery is now available via ROM Manager, check it out version 3.0.2.5, you shouldn't need the workaround now

will be taking that small howto off now
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] yaely_ole:
Works with android 2.3
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] meletios:
tried it just now...installed on my gingerbread ok...ran ok foe first few seconds then fc..so uninstalled now..good trytry
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Profound:
Works perfectly with HD2 running UD 3.3

Only thing is when anything is placed in the dock it places them so low not only does it cut the title of the app off but it also cuts some of the icon off..same goes with any folders placed in the dock

Any fix for that?

Maybe it has something to do with the display layout
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Thanapan:
Here is fit 480x800 pixcels :D
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] chrisgto4:
Wont install on hypergbx12
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] RuffRap:
Wont install on tytung 2.6 gingerbread...
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Profound:
Won't install
[About XDA developers] Counterparts:
Here at XDA various input devices has its own forum for mods, hacking tools, apps, themes.

Only Galaxy 5 that has not yet, I think he deserves, has enough potential and good hardware.

How about that? (: