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[GT540 Optimus Android Development] Mur4ik:
So what? And what you need from new kernel?

And I remove screen calibration from my build of 2.2.1. With calibration the touch soft buttons not working and I have not a time to solve it.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] :
To be honest, I don't know. Everyone says they want the newer kernel so I thought it may be better....

Joost
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] meilbox:
simply froyo runs by default kernel 32... using 29 is the easies way to port but makes foryo not fully functional ;p
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] fishears:
So without calibration the softkeys work? But it's not enough just to remove the apk - there's more to it than that?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] Mur4ik:
I think you do not understan what you say.

Without some sources for userspace parts, even if we port fully working .37 kernel, we can't get a fully working eclair/froyo/gingerbread or honeycomb.

All that we need for froyo or gingerbread we can do with .29 kernel. The problem in userspace (codecs, tethering, camera, bt etc) b/c we have not a sources and configs for that android parts.

fishears just removing TSCalibration does not make any effect. Calibration its not just an application.

Here is a new and think last version, and I not planned to support it in future.

http://narod.yandex.ru/disk/10338048001/SwiftDroid_LittleBrother.zip

Enjoy and have fun :)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] eoghan2t7:
what are the changes?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] Mur4ik:
FM, parallel incoming call notification (donno how correctly translate it), overclocking from settings like in CM7.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] eoghan2t7:
Thanks great work
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] :
That is actually 100% false. Kernel version does not matter for functionality. We have (nearly) a fully functioning CM7 using 2.6.29. So I don't see where your point comes from.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] meilbox:
i did not say nothing about (codecs, tethering, camera, bt etc) but only about kernel... which in ver 29 does not support fe. tethering by def

and about source codes... we need free drv maker ;p joke ;p

... BTW god job...

@up not true... read about linux kernels and what it is responsible for... kernel determines, what will work or not, what's supported or not...

every new ver. let's u to run faster smoother and supports more new stuff and fixes.... no offence but get some knowledge before posting ;p

using 3'rd part apps it's easy but why.... when the os is supposed to do all that by itself ;p

@down

yep several months now... it's worth waiting ;p
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] eoghan2t7:
just for people that want to no there is a port for kernel version 2.6.35 is going on but very slowly this is the current status

Works:

USB-Modem

Keyboard

Touchscreen

Backlighting

LCD backlight

Graphics - Full 3D hardware

Sound

Stick card

Internal memory

Headset

Poblemy with:

* The system does not feel removing or inserting the stick

* Pressing the button on the headset makes system to hang

* The frequency and strength of the vibrator is not regulated

Aksilomer

Magnitomer

Luggage

WiFi

GSM

Not tested:

GPS

Bluetooth

Information
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] :
I know the kernel houses drivers, I said that the VERSION of the kernel doesn't matter. Plus I have plenty of knowledge, at least enough to use correct grammar. (-.-) Also we can still implement speed fixes and stuff from the new kernel, into our older kernel (To be fair, kernels usually don't have much to do with speed, its the CPU, Memory and also the OS must be weaked such as the Dalvik VM must be tweated to offer optimum performance.)

Jack
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] sanmit:
Help tha dev in his work if possible or devlop your own rom,all this work is done for free by devs in their free time.....so stop complaining!

Pure display of one's knowledge is not helpful.

@mur4ik-I appreciate your effort.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] :
I totally agree. People are winging because it is not using the newer kernel. Give the developer a break, let him use his own kernel. As I said before newer kernels will not make a difference.

Jack
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] meilbox:
yep... dev can do whatever he wants

but with youre way of thinking... linux wouldn't support anything new... lol new kernel aren't needed... probably u have never even used linux os... where do they teach that kind of stuff ;p ?? EOT...

BTW.

this forum is international... and i'm not a native english writer/speaker... but i know 3 languages not only english... kid....
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] fishears:
Version 2 is great! As good as Big Brother and the UI is definitely faster...
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] :
That's very strange as I have Kubuntu as my main os on both my Desktop and Netbook, and I am quite savvy when it comes to Linux, So I obviously used Linux. Also, what do you mean by "linux wouldn't support anything new" since when did I mention Linux supporting new kernels. I said new kernels wouldn't make a difference. Because they wouldn't, its just much easier to use older kernels, as they work with any OS (Unless the OS requires a certain kernel version, which Android doesn't) Also, you should still try to use correct grammar, so people can easily understand you :) Just saying.

Jack
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] sanmit:
@joost-please comment and stop this dumbness ,this forum is for helping and getting helped.....
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] fishears:
+1

Either that or get a room :p

Enough already, please...
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] sanmit:
@fishears-;)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] :
I don't see why he has a problem with my opinion about we don't NEED a .35 kernel and how it doesn't effect functionality.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] sanmit:
Just ignore somethings!
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] :
I try to but it just irritates me slightly lol

Jack
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] meilbox:
im an it eng... my gramma is ok... simply u dont know too much about how certain things depend on...

GT540
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] deamonjones:
Thanks Mur4ik, you are the master controller! do what you will,when you want! your efforts are much appreciated keep up good work! Will buy you that beer when get my pp account sorted out :-d

MY ANDROIDSKY
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] :
Face it, my point is that we don't need a .35 kernel, why do you keep arguing with that. I said to you we don't need a .35 kernel for Froyo to fully function, which we don't. Please could you accept that fact.

Jack
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ghill55:
It's the thin version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdu5PVjCGo0
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mith500:
thanks, that display does look good against the ipad 2
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Mitchmoney:
It also looks like stock honeycomb with no Samsung ui on top of it.

Sent this message from my Samsung Vibrant running 2.2 stock!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Techno79:
Seeing as this is the first time the thin 10.1 has been in public with a working OS, it is probably still an unpolished version. There were a few times when it didn't seem that responsive (could be with the way the person was using it) but hopefully, whatever quirks, laginess etc is in the device can be ironed out by the time it is released publicly.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
Damn ... I want it now :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] htowngator:
They said it would be at launch with the "UX" update coming soon after.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chandelure:
My only issue is that the screen was.... glossy. Maybe it's just the color of the wallpaper. I hope not!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Eclair~:
Um... no, I'm pretty sure it's gonna stay glossy, lol. However, the display looks amazing. It may even be iPad quality~

Edit: Im lying, I honestly can't tell from the video. Though the viewing angles do look fine.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chandelure:
It's not the viewing angles, it's the lights that were reflected on it. Not a problem for me, just other people I feel bad for.

One of the main reason's I'll buy this tablet is the screen.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Eclair~:
What..? What do you mean "It's not the viewing angles.. it's the lights...", I know that lol. The reflection of the lights has to do with the glossy screen. I am very curious to know if this model of the tab is even using the PLS screen~

Honeycomb seemed very smooth here. In videos of the Xoom this wasn't always the case.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SteveSlimer:
That looks awesome.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] htowngator:
Its too bad someone can't go to properties and check out the processor.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chandelure:
I was wondering that myself....
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Eclair~:
I'm surprised this video hasn't made its way onto the popular tech sites. Many people kept claiming that "Samsung is lying.", that they probably couldn't even get the tablets this thin for real. And now here is the proof and there is only one small little thread for it over here at xda.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chandelure:
I agree! Apple Insider claims that Samsung is 'lying' and that these will never be released. Yet there's a site up and a video!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Eclair~:
Ughhh yes! Can someone email some sites this information please? Lol~
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
Email engadget.com :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chandelure:
Nah, too biased for Apple.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] K-DoG7p7:
did he say anything about SD card slot?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chandelure:
It exists in the thin one.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] radiohead14:
June 8th seems so far away!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chandelure:
I wish it was farther. I don't have the $500 required....

GIMME MOMEH
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
I'm a vietnamese living in the us. Just saw this on the news yesterday. I'd like to give a rough translation on this video to clear up any confusions.

Bottom of tab is 30 pin connector that everybody already knows.

2 speakers are on the sides.

On top we have the 3g Sim slot, micro SD card slot, power button.

And that's it hardware wise. NO hdmi out!!!

He also says the screen does look nice, its very thin. Very light weight. The back of the tab also feel silky smooth! And when he holding the tab on the back trying to press it upward, thats when he said the tab is likely to bend a little.

Any other questions lemme know if I can clear it up for you. According to the video of course.

Edit : A quick side note as well, when he was playing angry birds on both iPad and the Tab, he mentioned that the Tab's angry bird interface ( the story pictures) are smaller because the its resolution is higher than the iPad's. It's true the Tabs resolution is higher but I doubt that he was right about why Angry Birds pictures appeared smaller based on the resolution.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
Thanks.

I guess there is no USB port?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
Affirmative. It does not have a micro usb port.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] radiohead14:
thanks! what are those two holes next to the dock connector? i don't remember those being on the 10.1v. did he mention what SoC is being used and how the speaker/sound quality are?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ghill55:
They are screws.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
Like ghill 55 says, they're just screws. He also says if you unscrew those, you'll be able to see the inside goodness of it lol. What do you mean SoC?

He didn't say anything about the sound quality.

Edit: just went found out what SoC means lol, I'm a newb to that word. But no he didn't say anything about the SoC. I don't think any reviewer or demoer would specifically go that deep.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] epicfailguy2:
After seeing this video review of the Asus transformer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvxth_Sxfps&feature=related

I think I won't be getting the galaxy 10.1 unless there is with the first reviews :

- A similar keyboard dock (what the hell is samsung's accesories department doing ?).

- A similar battery life (even if the transformer is thicker and heavier of about 90 grams, it also brings more battery life, about 16 with the dock).

Where samsung failed :

- Proprietary connectors for hdmi and usb while all the galaxy line uses at least micro usb.

- Pricing it as high as the transformer for a worse bundle of features.

- No exynos. But hell tegra 2 will be way better optimized for games, and games will be availlable on tegrazone way faster than anywhere else.

Where samsung wins :

- The new design.

- PLS screen.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] radiohead14:
i sure hope those screw holes are only there for the proto.. if you look at the photos and videos, neither the 10.1v and the initial design of the thin version had those.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
Apparently it does lol....the guy in the video says they are screws. There are screws in those holes lol
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] htowngator:
You know for sure its not Exynos?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
Exynos will be in the SGS II. But it's still a possibility
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] radiohead14:
i meant if you look at the initial photos, those were not there:

looks much cleaner like that
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] htowngator:
I would assume a very high probability, actually. Just from listed specs and Sammy not mentioning the Tegra 2.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
Its true that its cleaner but wouldnt you like the option to have swappable battery?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
Maybe you can try to contact this guy (with a comment on YT maybe) and ask him about SoC in this GT device? Why was this not checked? Or maybe it was....? :-)

To all of you who think it will be based on Tegra... if that would be the case why would Samsung withheld this information? It is not giving company any advantage.

If it would be confirmed that both models (10.1v & 10.1) would be Tegra 2 based a lot of you would get 10.1v. This means first model (already produced) would sold out quickly... since it is not confirmed a lot of us will wait.... this means 10.1v will not be bought (by some of us). And I can bet Samsung & Vodafone wants to get rid of it as quickly as possible.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Techno79:
Also, it's on the bottom edge so I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's the front and back that's get the most attention and they seem perfectly fine.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] htowngator:
That's my point too -- if it were Tegra 2, samsung would say so. Everyone else already did if they used it.

The fact that they keep calling it a "dual core application processor" is interesting because it means its likely not a Tegra 2. Would be awesome if it were Exynos simply for the video conversion and DiVX cert.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Super-S:
sign!!!

The new Tab-Versions are for me the best-looking tablets announced in 2011... so clean and thin... just awesome!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
If exynos is divx certified. Why is tetra 2 based optimistic 2x also divx certified?

But ill try if I can contact the guy and ask lol

Edit: just emailed the tinhtevideo channel. More request to that site will be done. Hopefully he'll response lol.

Edit 2: just emailed the main site. Waiting for responses.

Edit 3: just got a response from the guy. He confirmed its a tegra 2.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
I think I saw somewhere an info that new 10.1 is divx cert....

Got to try and find it in the net (but might be like searching for needle in a haystack). Any way if I do find it I will let you know.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mith500:
not sure if this has been video has been posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1IJHYr5UYk
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Srikar_NBK:
One more video here from Hamburg, Germany.

http://ndevil.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-tablet-im-hands-on-und-ipad-2-vergleich-video-2018344/
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
iPad's 4:3 ratio screen looks ridiculous.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mith500:
has samsung announced an ETA for UK/Europe?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Eclair~:
The reviewer says the GTab's 10.1 screen looked "much better", but I can't tell if it is bias or he actually knows what he talking about.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mith500:
like thats it's faster than the ipad 2 ...angry birds loads faster on the 10.1 even though it was started after the ipad 2.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mith500:
yeah its difficult to tell, would have been better if they compared the same web pages or photos etc.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Magnesus:
He meant that the resolution is better (1280x800 is quite better than 1024x768 on almost the same screen size).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Eclair~:
I guess you're right. I just thought this sentence was two separate thoughts. One about the resolution, and one about the screen quality. "This has a much much higher resolution and it looks really really much better."
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] htowngator:
Well, I guess I can hold out hope that the 8.9" version is Exynos.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] htowngator:
Good video, but someone seriously needs to check on the processor that's installed.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
I contacted the guy from tinhte.vn and he said its tegra 2 chip inside.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
I have another thought. He might have meant the screens color is better.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
God... this is the worst news ever. Do you think that there is any chance that he is wrong? Why was it not on a video?

And most importantly.... WHY (IF Tegra 2 is in inside) would Samsung be quite about it?????
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
I'm about to contradict myself. As I mentioned earlier. I contacted 2 places with the same question. One on main site and the other on YouTube. Though they're the same company. The guy from the main site says its a tegra 2 . The guy from youtube channel just emailed me back and he says Samsung has not said anything about it so he doesn't know either.

Ok, so you guys can still keep your hopes up for exynos powered tab.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
Unless... :-)

How about this theory...

As you all know Samsung is making SoC's for Apple. A4 was made by Samsung and A5 is made by Samsung.

What if (more or less) A5=Exynos? If so (with such a big demand for parts from Apple) Samsung does not have production capabilities to (at least for now) produce enough chips for himself?

Hence... Samsung Galaxy II is being assembled with Tegra 2 & Exynos.

I bet Samsung knows about Tegra 2 limitations and is not very happy about them... how will they explain that their brand, spanking new tablet in some cases is worse than the old one??? :-)

Also I can not imagine Tegra 2 being cheaper for Samsung to buy than their own chip to make.

What is more... why would they want to support their competition on ARM SoC market with additional cash? They do want to sell their own chips to others....

All this effort to develop a new chip...and they would say " Yes, we did it, now, lets buy the rest from Nvidia" ? :-)

So... I would not be surprised if:

8.9" and 10.1" GT would be available with both Tegra 2 and Exynos (it will make buying it quite difficult)

8.9" will be sold with Exynos & 10.1" with Tegra 2 - if this is the case we are f....d :-(

In my case (if 10.1 will be coming with Tegra 2) I might buy Transformer... or just plain and simply cheaper one (unless Kal-El based tablets will be in shops before Xmass - if that would be the case I prefer to wait since I do not have hours and hours to play with videos in order to watch them on the tablet...).

But... that gives me some hope that indeed 10.1" tablet with Exynos is coming: http://armdevices.net/2011/03/03/ha...-a9-1ghz-dual-core-in-10-1-capacitive-tablet/ - just the resolution makes me worried....
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Magnesus:
The only thing Tegra2 is not good at - with comparison with Exynos - is video. Samsung could use Tegra2 and add a second chip for decoding video. But after a thought it's not likely.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
There is still hope :-)

http://www.slashgear.com/amazon-tab...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+slashgear+(SlashGear)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
As you have thought, I think the issue is "supply".

I don't think Samsung has that capacity to produce Exynos.

Most probably this will be the same as Nexus S situation:

US and UK have Super Amoled version

Other regions have SLCD version

Because Samsung cannot produce enough SAMOLED.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
Samsung has done that ecosystem with their gs2. Ie some regions are available with tegra 2 but most are exynos. In the end well all have unloccked bootloader dualcore beasts.

It is a possibility that samsung is doing the same with their tabs.

But I don't agree A5 = exynos. A5 is custom chips. They may be similar but they aren't the same. Samsung hopefully is wise enough to keep the better to themselves.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tineras:
Seeing this on video has made me rethink purchasing either a Xoom or Transformer, but I'm honestly tired of waiting. I think I'm just going to get a Transformer and if I'm not happy then I'll sell it at a loss any buy something else.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
Unfortunately not all of us can afford tablet strategy like yours :-(

But I understand your point. I am waiting for a tablet since 2010 and I really have enough of this.

I knew for sure I did not want an iPad but with an iPad 2 out and extra software that does not require re-encoding of the movie, I am not so sure any more... (tell me why I should wait for "His Majesty Samsung" and not just spend my cash on an iPad 2???)

What is more I was really gutted when I heard the news that "Full HD by Nvidia" is a feature with a "*".

If new GT 10.1 will have Tegra 2 or Exynos itself will have similar limitation (which as far as I know it does not have) I will really be disappointed.

I do not wish to run Photoshop on a tablet or work with Cad or 3D Studio... all I want to do is have my e-mail, my web (hulu and netflix included) and my home movies in it - without thinking how to run, how to cheat, what to change in order not to be recognized as a "big phone". Am I asking for to much (in exachange for almost $800 in some cases???).

And since we are on the subject... I think it is really unfair from places like Hulu or Spotify to run free on Windows devices and not on devices like tablet with Android.

Ufff... I am done with whining ;-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wang1404:
If you just want regular stuff than ipad 2 is for you. But please don't buy the white one. Its a b*tch to look at. Most of us here can't stand the ipad that's why were still waiting for a good android tablet. I got myself a xoom though lol. Movies on the xoom isn't a big deal to me. Gaming on it on the other hand is sweet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Lorimere:
Video is nice,

But I think I am going to go ahead and pick up the transformer.

Was holding off to see what Samsung had, (and might still). But I am getting impaitient.

Not sure how Samsung thinks they are benifiting themselves by not releasing the SoC information. Unless it is using the same tegra 2 as everyone else.

If they were using their new chip you would think they would be boasting about it, and it would gain them some buyers (like me) that would wait for thier chip.

If there is no information by the time the transformers hit shelves (next week). I will just jump on that wagon. Be plenty to hold me over until next year when the new new super tablets come out. LOL
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chandelure:
It's tegra 2.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
R u talking about 10.1v or 10.1? :-)

And if about 10.1 - source please.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chandelure:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1036796&page=6

A couple posts down someone quoted him, I'm too lazy to find the OP.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] litezout:
I've seen quite a few posts regarding returning GTablet's because of a dead pixel. Is this a realistic concern of trouble to come? I paid for it so it should be perfect? or buyers regret with an easy escape clause?

I'm asking because I have a dead pixel but it doesn't bother me as long as I know it's not going to be infectious... anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks