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[Nexus S Android Development] rub1k:
Noticed the same behavior here... never goes into deep sleep while on USB cable (even with screen off and nothing going on in 'adb logcat' for long periods of time).

It does go into deep sleep while on the charger or on battery...

This was with the TEUV-MUAD-DIb.zip experimental kernel posted yesterday afternoon (?).. I'll grab the more recent one (TEUV-MCP.zip) now and try that one.
[Nexus S Android Development] Serious_Beans:
Eh well if there isn't much difference then whatever, no big deal. TEUV is good enough, getting like 16hrs+ of moderate use.
[Nexus S Android Development] ZiggSVO:
I got just shy of 18 yesterday with approximately 4 hrs of screen on time and 40 minutes of GPS use on the normal teuv
[Nexus S Android Development] chickelnoodensoup:
I agree. I had a bunch of little issues, and didn't see any noticeable battery savings. I'd just stick with regular TEUV for now.
[Nexus S Android Development] caleb1783:
maybe because you set ur phone to stay awake during charging?

the settin is under application	> development...

Sent from Divinus Nexus S...
[Nexus S Android Development] Tzorg:
No, I have that disabled. It doesn't matter much as it's charging after all but find it strange.

I'm on the latest released today.
[Nexus S Android Development] rub1k:
Thanks but I too have that setting unchecked...

Haven't had a chance to try the updated kernel yet; will do later.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
brainmaster modifies some scripts, i flashed my kernel over miui, no problem, he may just scold you for doing so.

Need to check latest brainmaster scripts, last once were making things worse, but it's his rom, not mine.

I'd say flash kernel, but he will likely not support you until you remove my scripts, he keeps things going pretty quick, where all you would have to do is wait and he has an "adjusted" .zip for you, this way you can get support if you have odd problems.
[Nexus S Android Development] benrees21:
Well I'm gonna flash back to normal T144, I have seen worse battery performance with deep idle.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Trinity T144 Beast Kernel.
[Nexus S Android Development] thedudejdog:
is this why the boot animation stops/restarts a few times while miui is booting? the TUV from today loops the boot animation 2 or 3 times before it goes ahead and boots up. after that everything is peachy, besides the green flash sometimes before the screen times out.

i just flashed CM7 again, but i can't go back. brainmaster's miui is too awesome. :D
[Nexus S Android Development] ragnarokx:
To make a kernel compatible, brainmaster has said to delete the 98tweak file, bin folder and media folder.

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] thedudejdog:
Okay, i've removed these files from TUV 1410 . Didn't sign it or anything but i'm running this right now on brainmasters miui.

I take no credit, just deleted some files.

Thanks morfic and brainmaster.

http://db.tt/hCsLDY7h
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
I'm getting better battery myself, but I am losing wifi and 3g even when it's green on occassion like others stated.. A reboot solves the issue.
[Nexus S Android Development] formula84:
I too think that batt has been better, I use Media Player with screen off for about 1.5 hours a day.

Anyone else have Data Issues? I am on Morfics from today and I have lost 3g twice today...3g icon is lit up and my sync arrows are lit but I do not get internet. Browser never gets anywhere email does not work, etc. If I toggle airplane mode and let it sit for a minute and toggle back on it works without a reboot.

NS4G
[Nexus S Android Development] noobiekins:
according to cpu spy, my phone is never in deep idle mode
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
mine seems to be doing fine..
[Nexus S Android Development] droidance:
Mine doesn't seem to reach Deep Sleep. It says it's unused and my phone is mostly at 100 MHz if not used.

And any plan to implement this from nightly? It seems like this will be updated in the next nightly
[Nexus S Android Development] formula84:
There was a crapload of kernel commits hitting tonight.
[Nexus S Android Development] brenix:
Check to see if you have one of the two in your /system/build.prop file

pm.sleep_mode=1

ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0

I haven't narrowed it down as to which one would cause this, but I commented both out (with a #) to resolve this issue.. Hope that helps..
[Nexus S Android Development] Tzorg:
But, are we sure that deep idle comes as Deep Sleep though? They are meant to be different things.

To test this I have changed back to non DIDLE teuv 05/10 and it also goes into deep sleep. So, how do we know we are really going into deep idle with the DIDLE version?

Already posted my cpu spy with DIDLE teuv, this one is with NON-DIDLE teuv
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
i dont have an answer for you. i just dont know. but i am sure that i would rather have my phone sleeping deeply, than just idling. with the deep sleep comes minimal battery usage. and thats what its all about.. right?
[Nexus S Android Development] Tzorg:
Of course, we just want the best battery life possible.

If that is deep sleep, then so be it, but in the deep idle post they seem to think that deep idle will improve battery life over what we already had with deep sleep. Whether that will be the case is still to be seen :D

Having tried the teuv with DIDLE I cannot be sure whether it's even enabledl. Maybe that's why we are not seen any noticeable change in battery life when other users on other kernels claim to have it?
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
morfic@othris:~/NSDEV/samsung$ grep DIDLE .config

CONFIG_CPU_DIDLE=y

morfic@othris:~/NSDEV/samsung$
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
ive been using the teuv with deep idle and have not seen a noticeable difference in battery life over teuv without deep idle. majority of people that ive talked to havent seen a difference either. im thinking that the people who have seen a difference are either not using the phone very often or its just a placebo effect. i really did want to see that difference, but i just dont.
[Nexus S Android Development] noobiekins:
heres my cpu spy screenie
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Check your apps. Something g is keeping it from going into the deep sleep.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
was your phone even being used?
[Nexus S Android Development] greenfrogz:
Been using the truck deep idle from yesterday on BM's MIUI. Everything seems fine. Data worked on both wifi and 3g, only changes in build.prop that I made is to change the power mode, else its original. And I did removes the ram script from morfic's kernel.

Will continue monitoring the performance. It seems better as I don't use the phone much.
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
No placebo here. And I have a screen on time around 3 to 4 hours a day. I use it for business, email, texting, at least 30 minutes a day on the phone and browsing in between.

I would typically get through the day and be home on 50 percent ans thats starting at 6am and ending at 5pm. Right now its at 67 from 6am to 7pm. No habit changes, the only thing different is the kernel.

Thank you!
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
glad to have your input!

but i can only judge it by what i see or "feel", observe. id even have to say that this is the only legitimate post ive seen about the battery saving. again, that ive seen. there can be other posts that i havent seen. but from the people that ive talked to, all ive heard is "maybe" or "possibly slightly". i even fit in the "possibly slightly" category. what you should/could do is post your findings/data so that we can learn from it. any information is good information :)
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Simms,

I had to fix my post. I would never consider you rude at all. You are the most helpful person on these forums in my eyes. I seriously didnt even look who was posting and I assumed that you were one of those guys bashing Morfics kernel or ezekeel's mod. Which i know you would never do. I simply made a mistake and i apologize for that.

That being said, I have seen a great big jump in battery that is true, but you are not a rude person At all. . :)

Ill post some results Tomorrow. I just flashed a Kang and llost some of my slstatistics. But will definitely post tomorrow just to show you my new battery saving. Typical use for me is about 18 hours of battery with 3 to 4 hours of display on and the normal apps used for business. No gaming of course. I was at around 65% left after my same routine after work. Which theoretically should have given me another 18 hours. :) If the sporatic 3G gets fixed I'm a happy camper. Obviously the more the screen time the less the battery savings you will get with this mod, but previous kernels would take up to an hour for me to get down to the 100 MHz mark after turning the screen off and now ili get the deep sleep almost instant.

Simms, you the man. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Do you we have any heavy media player users on the deep idle kernels?

They should see the most benefit, would be nice to get some confirmation there.

To to discount dsellers' report :)
[Nexus S Android Development] noobiekins:
Nope, I just left it sitting there without any apps open except for that CPU spy app
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
i had better than normal battery life yesterday evening, coming home from work while in the subway. i was listening to music the majority of the time and the screen was off. i definitely noticed battery effeciency in that situation. i guess thats where/when deep idle helps.

ha! :D
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
New Deep Idle builds up with Ezekeel's bugfix, using same wakeup interrupts for idle as are used for sleep.

Get them there: Der Kernel
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Beings its using the same interrupts....think it will fix the data problem? Just curious. Thanks for the update.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
I am hoping that will be the case, sim is in g2x, so I wont be the one to tell you.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
just got home, turned on my wifi on the phone, turned on my laptop, turned off the phones screen, and started reading this thread,turned around and grabbed my phone to download the new version of teuv that you just posted, and pressed my volume button to wake the phone. it didnt wake up. no matter what i did. even plugged it in and unplugged it. had to battery pull it. thats a first with teuv(deep idle from yesterday) for me :eek:
[Nexus S Android Development] Bamdroid:
Does pocket cast count?

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[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Uh oh, is your power butting completely useless? At least to try if it works with the power button for you? Power us working for me but I will change my settings to the volume to wake to see I'd I get the same thing

Edit: Changed the setting to volume to wake and it woke for me.

Will report back with stats tomorrow...trying to kill my battery so I can delete the battery stats bin file and test my battery consumption with the latest kernel you just posted again. :) Thanks for the update Morfic.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
my power button has been going for a while now, it works if i flick it just right(and ive had practice :p ). but, ive been using the volume rocker wake option, in cm, for a while now. this wasnt a power button issue. it just wouldnt wake from sleep. i even gave it a few minutes to see if it would come to. it never did. thats a first for my phone with teuv. anyways, i flashed the new version of teuv just put up. alls well so far.
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Just from my short 30 minutes of testing it looks like its still going right to deeep sleep after pressing the power button. That's a good sign

Still trying to kill this battery. :)

29 minutes in deep sleep and 1 minute in 800 which is the same amount of time my display had been on about.
[Nexus S Android Development] brenix:
Same here... Strait to deep sleep and no issues with waking the device.. Can't really gauge battery life yet though..
[Nexus S Android Development] noobiekins:
my phone is having trouble getting into deep sleep/idle ):
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
do you have a bunch of stuff in the background keeping the phone awake?
[Nexus S Android Development] from1989:
how can i know if it works about the deep idel??
[Nexus S Android Development] brenix:
Check my post here... This seemed to resolve it for me..
[Nexus S Android Development] ragnarokx:
I play podcasts at least a couple hours a day. Will flash the new test kernel as soon as brainmaster posts his MIUI update (should be less than 24 hours from now).
[Nexus S Android Development] etoy:
T12 freezes 1 or 2 seconds after i set full speed in setcpu.

same with all the T144 ones. only once i reached to run quadrant and scored 4900+ with T144-05312011 but now it freezes everytime.

looks like my cpu is not a great overclocker :(
[Nexus S Android Development] Crazed47:
5914 Quadrant 1576 kernal with cm7.1 RC1
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
very nice! super as a matter of fact :D
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
you couldn't have tried a little harder for that 6k? :P

look at that weak 3D score, you had a chance there :D
[Nexus S Android Development] Crazed47:
damn critics lol, ya I'll try again later, for some reason my phone always has average 3d scores, I've kinda hit a wall with them.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
not so much critics as wanting to have the satisfaction

ok, since we can't bump voltage we need the super phones try something i could build after the git push to euroskank is done.

just a few mhz more you know :)
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Can you run smartbench2011 for me? Would be interesting to see your phone's reaction there.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
a few more mhz is always nice. btw, youre right about the 3D score, it should be about double.
[Nexus S Android Development] Crazed47:
ok reflashing super kernal now, but iirc my games scores in smartbench hovers around 3200
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
On scale of 1 to 10 how do you rate stability?

How is stability of 1.2 and 1.44ghz kernels?

Sent from my NookColor
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
1.576 is pretty much stable for me. but, i have had a reboot. one. receiving/opening an gmail that you sent while i was in the middle of benchmarking. thats no biggie. rating of 9.75.
[Nexus S Android Development] Crazed47:
1.2 and 1.4 are not great on my phone, they freeze from time to time, but 1.544 and 1.576 are fine i normally run either special 1.1 or 1.576
[Nexus S Android Development] Crazed47:
heres smartbench
[Nexus S Android Development] Crazed47:
LINK!!!!! please :)
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
not yet, i want to test how safe it is. the problem is im at work and its very hot here. and the phone is very hot, 103F. im gonna cool it down right now.
[Nexus S Android Development] luckylui:
Id love that!!! Only thing w these kernels tho atleast for the ns4g users is. No data at start a reboot required to work and usb.. usb no biggie but data not starting up at boot blows cause it kills my battery everytime i have to reboot.. hopefully those measures are fixed... but prob not.

NS4G°
[Nexus S Android Development] :
very, very nice :)
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
that happens with the regular ns sometimes too, no data on boot. putting it in airplane mode and back or putting it into 2g only and back always fixes it. or just let it sit there 2-3minute, and itll come back.
[Nexus S Android Development] Crazed47:
ok cool, if you need help testing lmk, im in an air conditioned room with a fan
[Nexus S Android Development] droidance:
Me too.. I checked for those 2 lines but I don't see them in build.prop...

I updated to latest TEUV (b version) and it still says deep sleep is unused... :(
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Hey morfic was running stable version Tuv and got a couple reboots while listening to music on power amp running nscollab. Is there anything I can do to make it work because I absolutely love it and really don't want to give it up so if you have any tips or suggestions I would really appreciate it

I wiped both caches when I flashed it but didn't install on a fresh rom install so don't know if that can help but just want to be clear on my install method,thanks this is the version I was running when it happened

TU 28092011

Is the stable version 05102011 on your web page a different version?

Sent from my NSCOLLAB
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
teuv-mcpb. 2h 20min. it seemed not to have used 400 or 200mhz for any substantial amount of time. light to average use. 4% battery drop in this time period.
[Nexus S Android Development] noobiekins:
The exact same issue I'm getting

Closing the Facebook upload manager seemed to do the trick, thanks!
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Commenting them out is same as not having it, so you are good.

It's another app or service keeping wakelocks on your phone.
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Downloaded TUV28092011 just a couple days ago now there's TUV05102011 in the non experimental versions are they different and if so does TUV05102011 have slightly higher voltages

THANKS MORFIC FOR ALL OF THEM

Sorry for my noobness there listed by date so I guess ill ask then of I have a better chance not getting any reboots on 05102011 rather thanks 28092011 I know nothing is wrong with your kernels is my favorite rom that requires high voltage (I think)

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[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Looks good. Ate you still having an issue with data dropping and requiring a reboot. I am still so I was curious?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
i didnt have an issue with data at all the past couple of kernels.
[Nexus S Android Development] from1989:
this kernel is a bfs one？？？？？
[Nexus S Android Development] Tzorg:
Same here, neither wifi or 3g issues so far and I've run all the DIDLE teuv, currently on MCPb.

I'm on NSC .50 ROM
[Nexus S Android Development] jungbum:
Quite amusing.

Not much but I donated. I hope you will get Galaxy Nexus ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
I sent you a small gift Morfic via paypal. Thanks for all the things you do for my device and the community. I'll be sending more.
[Nexus S Android Development] melvinchng:
Morfic, Is it possible to merge BLX in your kernel? 100% battery charged is available in stock cyanogen kernel. I hope you can make something like special edition for tuv.

Source: review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,9010

Please? Wanted to use uv with 100% battery charge...

Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
[Nexus S Android Development] akayssi:
This looks impressive.

But unfortunately the kernel breaks /sdcard as it is no longer auto-mounted. Any fix to that?
[Nexus S Android Development] GeezyAF:
I lost data/wifi with Tuv-mcpb after waking it from a long sleep. Probably a couple hours.

just rebooted and flashed stable.
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
This will probably happen again. But I just reboot everytime it happened s because the battery savings are nice.
[Nexus S Android Development] sinik420:
No 3g loss but still have no wifi after flashing latest 2 teuv deeps

sent from my nexus s on a kang from simms
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Which radio are you on? Just curious if I have something different.
[Nexus S Android Development] GeezyAF:
Wonder if the battery savings even out to the power it takes for a reboot.
[Nexus S Android Development] dario3040:
He already did that, but it didn't work.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
im using kd1, no data issues whats-so-ever. 3g and wifi work fine.
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Hmmm...maybe that's my issue. I'm on kf1. Ill flash kd1 back and see if that fixes it
[Nexus S Android Development] ka24e:
Ok good, wasnt just me experiencing that. Seems to flake out after about 20 minutes from my testing. A reboot fixes it each time however I cant deal with this as I miss messages.
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Ok. I flashed Kd1 back. Will report back if I'm still losing wifi and 3g or data in general after the screen is off for a while.
[Nexus S Android Development] GeezyAF:
Yeah, I get like 100 emails a day and there was a period my phone was really quiet.

Tried updating weather on 3g and wifi, but no go.

Figured it was the experimental kernel, so I just flashed to stable as I can't miss emails like that.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Yes it is.
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Looks like flashing back to kd1 solved my data loss problem.

So anyone using the the teuv deep sleep kernel may need to flash kd1 in order to not lose data. At least that's what it looks like. Maybe ezekeel can look to see why that mod screw up the kf1 radio?
[Nexus S Android Development] Bamdroid:
In still using KD1 and never flashed a different radio, but still having the data issues with the test kernel. No biggie, I just keep rebooting.

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[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Blx is the opposite,its a mod to limit the charge not extend it for example you might set it to cut off at 80% if you want to get it up to 100% just choose stay awake in development settings

Sent from my NSCOLLAB
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
I always flash my KD1 radio after kernel flashes for whatever reason I get flaky data unless I do so and this goes for all kernels I've ever tried. Weird?

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[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Please note the "may require bump charging".

BLX was created to further limit the charge to extend the life of the battery, to extend the time until the battery physically fails.

Extended battery life in this context has nothing to do with a charge lasting you longer.

The charge is ended when the battery signals full. BLX can interrupt charging prior to full.

This conditions the battery so it might take longer until the battery seizes to function.

If there is a fix to show 100% for the usual 96% charge it's a psychological fix.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
yea, weird. i flash it only once, until i try another radio.

try adding these 4 lines to your build.prop file. i do so after every rom flash and my data speeds nearly double. this is for tmobiles network. it probably wont work for att, definitely wont work for sprint.

---------- Post added at 03:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 PM ----------

and we all know that you can bump charge to 100% without the need of any kind of mod. or you can turn on your wireless tether/hotspot while charging, and it will charge to 100% too.
[Nexus S Android Development] belair56:
Very nice

Have to say very very nice. Me with the kernel picky phone.

Running TEUV-MCPb

No data problems running KF1 radio

is going into deep sleep with

Missed it! running

Weather widget updating every half hour

news widget updating every hour.

Morfic,

With this kernel it will not let me boot into recovery from the power button menu. As most :(

But I did find a work around that's not too bad! I can turn the phone off with the power button.

Then I can turn on with power / volume up to get into bootloader then into recovery.
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
I was telling the one who thought blx could charge further than normal,at first that's what I thought it was for and my favorite nscollab has the data tweak in it and I definitely noticed double the speed after flashing it. I was really disappointed before the data tweak because my vibrant had much better data and with the tweak its now not too bad. The vibrant has to have a different data chip because my vib with the tweak is insane I can watch YouTube in my basement on both now but my vib signal is better in the same area

Thanks for the help simm but I stand by having to flash modems sometimes to cure flaky data after flashing kernels maybe its just my weird phone but I noticed a dramatic improvement in signal strength more than a couple times

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