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[Xoom Android Development] dadoc04:
just finished flashing and completed my first nandroid b.u... YAAAY!
[Xoom Android Development] hm1b:
Thank you so much for this option. I will be waiting for your next SD card option.
[Xoom Android Development] xlGmanlx:
This is going to be epic!
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
Yes you are correct with other android devices there is an option to app2nd or place apps on your sdcard for storage and running them. Thats not happening yet with honeycomb so clockwork skips that part of the backup
[Xoom Android Development] jawonder:
So basically when i do a backup in recovery it will automatically be store in SDCard2 which is the external storage or SD Card ? .
[Xoom Android Development] fsunoles157:
yuppers that is correct

sdcard2 is external for now and sdcard is internal will be changing soon hopefully today :-)
[Xoom Android Development] jawonder:
Ok thanks much !.
[Xoom Android Development] jawonder:
If the SD Card is new does still need to be formatted ? , bought a new 32GB i insert it in the reader then in the USB port but i can't find it or see it when i open my computer .
[Xoom Android Development] fsunoles157:
your computer cant see it? try using different usb port it should install mine was touchy to begin with it wouldnt do anything i have the 32 sandisk with the reader
[Xoom Android Development] jawonder:
I have the same SanDisk bought it a few minutes ago from Verizon. I used a different port it pick up the SD Card in Removable disk (E:) but when i try to format it i'm getting :- There is no disk in drive E:. Insert a disk and try again . Ok got it .
[Xoom Android Development] fsunoles157:
nice
[Xoom Android Development] lmmaromantic:
Hi

I can't install, because I can't mount sdcard..Somebody can helpin about ?? Thank
[Xoom Android Development] fsunoles157:
what kernel are you on? do you have sdcard2 in sdcard? is your external card in? how are you trying to flash it?
[Xoom Android Development] GulMiguel:
Format SD card or not?

Hey guys, I happened to catch a few conversations in another forum about this very thing. What was said there was that this problem can be simply resolved by:

a) take the SD card out of your mobile phone

b) place your newly purchased card (I also bought the 32 GB SanDisk)

c) format the card from within the phone

d) remove the formatted card

e) place into the XOOM and it should be properly reading now

I haven't been able to do this personally yet. (Waiting on card to arrive.) However, every one that chose this method over at MDW had good success with it.

Hope that helps.
[Xoom Android Development] lmmaromantic:
Hello Again
[Xoom Android Development] kev0153:
I've had luck formatting on my computer with some tools i downloaded from sdtools
[Xoom Android Development] le_pere_noel:
hello, just one simple question do I need to root before flashing with the recovery ?
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
yes, in order to use all that clockwork recovery has and install it you have to have an unlocked bootloader to flash it and thats what rooting does, there is a one click method if you need it to root and unlocked it if you need it. Keep in mind too that you must have a kernal insalled and running that utilizes sdcard use like tiamit in order to use clockwork recovery.
[Xoom Android Development] le_pere_noel:
thx for the answer I saw the one click method I think I will use it as soon as my xoom arrive :o
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
Of course welcome to the xoom community!
[Xoom Android Development] fsunoles157:
Today is going to be sick with updates I hope :-) skype came out with an update but no video :-(
[Xoom Android Development] admiral70:
Upon flashing and rebooting I lost all widgets. Is there away to get those back without rebuilding?

Sorry if it is posted amongst the pages.
[Xoom Android Development] lokko21:
Whoever it's having this problem try to format the sdcard on a android phone that did the trick for me I was having the exact same problem, with my 32G, but I formatted in my evo then put it back on XOOM and work like a charm.

Hope this helps.

Evo Better Than The Best...
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
I have this happen every once and a while when i flash, try to re-add and then reboot see if it happens again
[Xoom Android Development] jondwillis:
I just went from stock OC kernel to Tiamat 1.3.2 (used clockworkmod method - GJ with the SDCard!)

Linpack went from ~65 MFLOPS to ~38 MFLOPS

Quadrant went from ~2800 to ~2500

...is there something I missed?
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
Did you change your setcpu to performance?
[Xoom Android Development] jondwillis:
Only marginally raised the scores. Would wiping maybe help?
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
i would almost always recommend a wipe of the cache after a kernel change to get rid of any evidence of the old kernel, hope it helps. Also redo setcpu and set it up again sometimes it gets stuck at a certian setting.
[Xoom Android Development] jondwillis:
I wiped cache, and it improved my benchmarks slightly. I ended up flashing back to the stock OC kernel, but I think I'll give Tiamat another shot when 1.3.3 comes out.
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
I think it should be out today, i heard it is screaming. Did you run the benchmarks a couple of times, my first one or two are always lower then bam they improve greatly
[Xoom Android Development] fsunoles157:
What do you do to clear cache

sent from my evo :-)
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
there is an script that does it for you otherwise i just wipe it in clockwork
[Xoom Android Development] fsunoles157:
Ok that's what I thought

sent from my evo :-)
[Xoom Android Development] Murphy2712:
It would be nice for CWM to filter the /sdcard/ folder for the nandroid backup!

I only have a 4GB sdcard and since the backup includes the /sdcard folder (big data/movies), I'm not able to backup...
[Xoom Android Development] open1your1eyes0:
Quick fix: Move movies and music from internal storage to PC. Nandroid backup. Whenever restore is donem move music and movies back. Simple and tooless. :)
[Xoom Android Development] bigrushdog:
But what would happen if you did a factory reset or you hit the wrong menu in recovery and wiped your data partition?
[Xoom Android Development] mutiny:
When I run a backup on my Xoom (of about 4GB worth of stuff) onto my microSD that is 32GB capacity, it makes my microSD card think it's full. Even when I take the card out and put it in a reader and check on my laptop, it says 24GB free but I can't copy a 6GB mkv video onto the card. As soon as I moved my "clockworkmod" folder onto my laptop, I can copy the movie.

Does this happen to anyone else?

EDIT: Never mind. I did some more experimenting and troubleshooting and it's not the backup files. It's actually the mkv file. It's weird and I never thought that it would be the movie because it's only 6GB. I formatted my 32GB card and it still says full. When I copy 12GB of more than one movies, it copies just fine. Anyway, this isn't the place to talk about this. Just ignore my post above. :D:D:D
[Xoom Android Development] bwcorvus:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18315605/XDA/IMG_20110421_142440.jpg
[Xoom Android Development] mikebeatrice:
It's a FAT32 limitation... 4GB is the max file size in FAT32

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table
[Xoom Android Development] MitchRapp:
I too wish you can filter out folders or filetypes at least...

Anyways, I moved my tv shows / movies / music to my PC, ran the backup, and then put them back on after.
[Xoom Android Development] mrkrabs:
So can we format to ntfs? Will honeycomb read ntfs? U know for more space...
[Xoom Android Development] ghoticov:
+1

This would be a nice feature!
[Xoom Android Development] ghoticov:
If I do a backup using clockworkmod, what files should it show on my sdcard? I'm trying to figure out how I can know that everything has been backed up correctly but I'm not sure what to look for.
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
If your nandroid back'd up good then go in root explorer/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup and the file should be there. Now if you want to see it in rom manager under "manage and restore backups" then you have to copy and paste from your sdcard to your sdcard2/clockworkmod/backup. If you dont have that file on your sdcard2 make it. hope that helps!
[Xoom Android Development] spirit32:
link is down..
[Xoom Android Development] odyseus:
With the Xoom switched off, is it possible to boot into clockwork recovery? (with a combination of volume/power controls like on other devices eg HTC Desire HD?)

Cheers

Ody
[Xoom Android Development] lolo2007:
Anybody could reupload it somewhere ? or is it under copyright maybe ?
[Xoom Android Development] ghoticov:
I went in root explorer and I do see the nandroid.md5 file... along with a boot.img, cache.img, data.img, system.img and recovey.img files. Are these all correct backups?
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
Yes as soon as you turn it on and see the red M lgog push the volume up really fast and you will see options to boot into android recovery, have to do it fast
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
No, if your talking about a nandroid back up it will be one file in your clockworkmod/backup folder and it will be rather large not just a few img files. those are your system files. Hope this helps. Like i said look in your sdcard/clockworkmod/backup if you did one it will be in there usually named something with the date you did it with some numbers after it.
[Xoom Android Development] mhausig:
Would the SDcard being smaller than the internal memory explain why Root explorer doesn't show the correct amount of space. I definitely don't see the right size when I go into SDcard2 and it had me confused at first that it wasn't installed correctly.

With the amount of free space available in the Xoom I'd personally much rather have a way to partition the internal memory so that clockwork treats most of the internal memory as an SD card and uses SDcard2 as SD-ext for backing up system and data files stored in a specified internal memory section.
[Xoom Android Development] ghoticov:
I guess I am confused as to what a nandroid back up is.

I see on my sdcard (external) there is a folder in the clockworkmod/backup called 2011-04-21.15.59.11 and inside that are the files I listed above.

Is what you are talking about just one large file?
[Xoom Android Development] bigrushdog:
Nandroid creates "images" of crutial partitions on your device. It kinda like creating a VM snapshot or a Norton Ghost backup.
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
Yes thats it, i usually rename it while leaving the date just to keep a log of what i have backed up. Those images inside are like what BRD said just representations of larger files.
[Xoom Android Development] ghoticov:
So it is typically one nandroid .md5 file and 5 .img files?
[Xoom Android Development] DroidHam:
Does Nandroid backup backup /movies/ and /music/ ? Should I move that stuff to avoid takin up too much space? My sd is only 4 gig but I have like 16 gig of movies on internal storage...
[Xoom Android Development] ghoticov:
Ok, you confused me. lol You said the back would be one file, not more than one file but now you are saying those files are the backup.

I think you meant that it would be one folder, not one file.
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
If you go into clockworkmod/backup and there is a file like the one you listed that is a nandroid back up,,,,if you open that file up there is other files listed that represent your back up. That whole file is the back up dont worry about whats in it. Now if you want that back up to be seen in rom manager "manage and restore back up" then you will have to copy the clockworkmod/backup folder and place it on sdcard2.
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
yes it does and if you dont than your data.img will be huge and the back up will take longer and longer depending on the size. I have heard of some taking over an hour to back up.
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
yes your md5 sum's are like a digital fingerprints of the back up so it can be recognized later.
[Xoom Android Development] ghoticov:
OK, I think I see what you are saying now. Thanks for your help!
[Xoom Android Development] Archangel:
ofcourse, it is a little diff with this kernal the way nandroids are saved but hey at least we have it compared to what google and moto is doing which is nothing!
[Xoom Android Development] scassel:
Just did a successful factory reset and then nandroid restore :D

Had to flash BRD recovery. Koush recovery did not work yet for the restore :confused:

And it did restore the password policy and PIN as part of the restore :D:D

Thanks to everyone involved with this!

FWIW - Wifi model
[Xoom Android Development] Smokexz:
When I tried to run through ROM Manager it said I didn't have recovery, yet when I booted into recovery it said I did, just flashed the latest Tiamat kernel, thanks. Problem is that it only read the SD card so I had to copy to SD card, no big deal sorta like it like that, would have been nice to have the option though, unless I am being stupid and there is a way to read from the device.

Thanks!
[Xoom Android Development] andr0id23:
I'm still having issues with CWM Recovery. Backup works fine, but not restore. I see in the OP it states that regular restore is working and I shouldn't have to go thru Advanced Restore, but I am still getting a Boot Image erasing error. Also, when I go thru advanced, the restore doesn't always work right. Most of the time it will boot into the restore after I advanced restore system and data, but everything will force close. Anyone know what the deal is with restoring nandroids now? I am on v1.3.2 kernel and using CWM 3.0.2.5. I've read that errors can occur from the names of the backups, so I've also tried renaming the nandroids, leaving the names as they were originally named by CWM, etc, but still not getting consistent restores. How are people using the regular restore feature? Am I missing something?...
[Xoom Android Development] andr0id23:
Ok in addition to my above post, I am guessing to fix the errors in restoring nandroids, I need to flash the new recovery image. I'm guessing this can be done only thru adb, and not thru recovery itself?
[Xoom Android Development] bwcorvus:
If you download the new one, it will fix the issues. You can flash it through fastboot. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
[Xoom Android Development] andr0id23:
Thanks, I got it. Well I think anyway lol. Said successful, but the recovery looks the same(expectantly). I've yet to try a restore. One final question tho: where did it get the file to flash. To be honest, I wasn't sure so I copied it to the Xoom's internal storage, my SD, and in the SDK tools folder on my PC :D

It worked lol, but it would be nice to know for future reference :cool:

Thanks again.

*Edit* Restoring a backup now and didn't have to go thru advanced. Looking good.
[Xoom Android Development] odyseus:
All the options I get are:-

Fastboot

NvFlash

RSD

No sign of a CW recovery option ????? What have I done wrong?

(I have the latest Clockwork premium installed but flashed Bigrushdog's modified recovery image)
[Xoom Android Development] yoshitweaky:
odyseus are you on wifii only?

3g supports entering recovery from power off but wifi only doesn't as yet

although this thread does show some ways

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1041192&highlight=recovery+wifi
[Xoom Android Development] odyseus:
Yep WiFi only. I wanted to know how to boot into recovery, if I get into a boot loop, after flashing a theme, for example?
[Xoom Android Development] p8ntballah21:
I don't really feel comfortable using adb, is this going to be available as an update in the market at some point?

I tried reflash recovery through ROM Manager but it still won't restore, is adb the only way to get this to work?
[Xoom Android Development] scassel:
BRD and Koush have been collaborating. I suspect the latest recovery (BRD's) will be available through Rom Manager soon enough.
[Xoom Android Development] odyseus:
You'll have to flash & boot recovery.ing using fastboot as suggested to me a couple of posts ago
[Xoom Android Development] andr0id23:
I understand where you're coming from, but thought id share my experience anyway. If you don't go the route I did, that's cool too. Anyway, I did not feel comfortable using adb eithe. It was something I wanted to get experience with, but not on my new $800 Xoom. But I really wanted this new recovery. I decided I was going to wait for it to be flash able, but then I came across a really nice guide on how to set up adb on win 7 64bit(tho it says the instructions should include info for othet os too).

So I decided I would set up adb just to see how it went. The instructions were spot on and I had adb up and ready in less than 10 minutes. After that, I ran a simple command to see if my Xoom was recognized in adb, and it was. At this point, the commands to flash this recovery were so simple how could I not? Typed in a few short lines and viola, shiny new recovery. So yea, in my experience adb is wayyy simpler than I made it out to be(in this case anyway). However, I also have 4 other Android devices and have done lots of recovery, flashing, etc on them and enjoy tinkering on phones and computers.

Again, if you decide you wanna play it safe and wait for it to be flashable thru recovery, that's respectable. If you are interested in setting up adb to see how it goes, you can find the guide on XoomForums. Look under the hacking guides and you will see a guide on how to set adb up. Feel free to ask any questions. I just did this last night and the new recovery works great. And I've also been connecting all of my phones via adb just to issue silly little comnands just because I can now lol.
[Xoom Android Development] Brenardo:
i have used CWR twice so far once to install 1.3.2 and recently 1.4.0. Everything worked correctly but since installation CWR I get this:

ClockworkMod Recovery v 3.0.2.5

E: can't mount /cache/recovery/command

E: can't mount /cache/recovery/log

E: can't open /cache/recovery/log

Is this normal or am I completely missing something here?
[Xoom Android Development] eaglecomm:
When I run 'Mount USB Storage' through CWM, I get a popup on my computer that says Windows needs to format the drive before it can use it. Is that common? I can look at the drive through the management console and it shows as a 200Mb RAW format.

I have actually never got the new SDCard tiamat kernel (anything past 1.3.0) working on mine for some reason so it may still be an issue with my sdcard, but I haven't yet found someone that has an sd card I can borrow for testing and I am unwilling to purchase a new sd card if I am not 100% sure its the card. Plus the Xoom is the only device that is potentially having trouble with the card. My android phone and multiple computers see it as a FAT32 system with no trouble reading/writing to/from it. I even formatted it in my android phone a few times just to check.

But I digress.. the main question is whether I should be getting this 'format?' message when I enter the 'Mount USB Storage' through CWM. I also realize this is a fine line between the Tiamat kernel thread and this one, but you gotta start somewhere. I don't want to say yes to Format and its really a 200Mb partition with system files that I am wiping out! :D

Thanks.
[Xoom Android Development] volta:
I had the same issue yesterday, but my partition was 3MB. Yes, 3.

I couldn't get around the popup, so I clicked 'yes'. I have no idea what the format did, but it doesn't seem to have affected anything. I did have a 2MB 'sdcard2' partition, for a while, until I flashed Tiamat 1.3.1 manually (I'm assuming that pushing the vold.fstab in 1.3.1 removed this mountpoint).

In any case, I'd be a little more worried with 200MB than with 3 :D I don't think it's needed. Start with OEM unlock, then root, then flashing Tiamat 1.3.1 via fastboot/ADB, then flashing CWM, then creating /data/media/sdcard2'to flash Tiamat 1.4.0 via CWM. At least that's what I did.
[Xoom Android Development] open1your1eyes0:
fastboot erase cache

Run that command.
[Xoom Android Development] docangle:
I have approximately 9GB of data on my Internal SD Card (Internal Memory) When I use Nandroid Backup to a SD Card (16GB) it seems like it works just fine, but the backup is incomplete when I try a restores because the data.img file is only 3.99GB in size. Can this be do to the fact the the card is formatted with Fat32?
[Xoom Android Development] eaglecomm:
Thanks, yeah, have tried this. I even went as far as reflashing recovery, boot and system back to stock AND doing a Factory Data Reset. No luck. Oh well, will wait for Google's update sometime this year or next. :rolleyes:
[Xoom Android Development] bigrushdog:
That's exactly what it is. I never even considered that until I read your post. Interesting. Ill have to reflect on that... BTW I may have fixed that stupid "status 0 error"
[Xoom Android Development] mutiny:
Will this "fix" and omission of SD mounting be 1.4.1 or will you just revise the 1.4.0? What was the cause of that error, anyway?
[Xoom Android Development] docangle:
Does HC support exfat format(I doubt it being an MS standard?) or Nandroid would have to support Spanning(multiple files) when creating the data.img file.
[Xoom Android Development] i_am_the_one:
I have a question: you said you have never gotten any kernal past 1.3.0 working,but at the top of your post you said you tried to mount USB in clockwork? If thats the case sdcard2 was not working until 1.3.1(after flashing 1.3.1 settings>about will still show 1.3.0) and clockwork uses sdcard2/external (depending on the kernal your using) not the internal memory/sdcard. so i would try flashing 1.3.1 again and see if that works.
[Xoom Android Development] rickjardim:
My xoom (3g - WiFi) Brazilian model 605 brick on recovery mode!!
[Xoom Android Development] pianoplayer:
Hey, I was just wondering if the 3G recovery is same as the Wifi one. I damn near bricked my Wifi Xoom when I flashed the 3G kernel so I just want to be sure.

Thanks
[Xoom Android Development] i_am_the_one:
This recovery works for both. Ihave a wifixoom and recovery works great on it.
[Xoom Android Development] pianoplayer:
OK Thanks, just wanted to be sure
[Xoom Android Development] eaglecomm:
Right, so I have never gotten any errors trying to update to the kernels of 1.3.1 up to 1.4.0, but I can never access the external sdcard information. I still say it is possible it is the card, just don't have one to swap out at the moment seeing as this is just a 'nice to have' update as I haven't filled up my internal so I don't want to buy another just for testing. No worries.. it will work some day! :)
[Xoom Android Development] Arcos904:
How do i "select" from the recovery menu? I thought it would be volume up but that moves me up the menu.... I'm usualy able to figure things out but this isnt working out
[Xoom Android Development] i_am_the_one:
the power button
[Xoom Android Development] Arcos904:
Thanks, I got it after rebooting a second time with it, for some reason the power button didnt select either the first time I ran it, or it was user error, shrug, I got it the second time i booted through recovery. thanks for the reply.
[Xoom Android Development] dubie76:
I have tried to restore a backup after testing another kernel. Now when I reboot into recovery and select the backupfile I made via ROM manager, I get "md5 mismatch" and it errors out. I have tried to check around and search Google but I am comming up with nothing.

Any ideas?
[Xoom Android Development] Hyperion82:
This is awesome! !

Thanks!