yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
+1, no problems.

Full wipe? Did you restore any data?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
There's no need to get nasty. Aamikam has said many times that not wiping properly causes a large majority of issues. He has said many times to do full wipes ALWAYS, even for what seem to be "small" updates. (To be honest, I'm not sure why you say that the FAQ was written only for the initial ROM. I don't see that anywhere.) He has said this in posts here, on theMikMik, and to me personally. You can choose to believe me or not, that's your decision, but he has definitely said it. Or you can do an advanced search in aamikam's posts for the word "wipe" and check out the results.

That said, you (and others) are free to do whatever they want regarding flashing "updates", but just know that you could very well have issues. I don't see why we would initially give people advice that could have a possibility of messing them up when we can just as easily give advice that will definitely not mess them up.

p.s. Here's just one post from aamikam about it, with an explanation as to why this is true. It's from MikFroYo, but the same concept applies.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
That's a huge +100, well said Jade.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Thank you sir. And thanks for assist ;).
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Not sure. I don't see a need to have anything fixed, so I'm guessing he would work on some 3.0 goodness (just a guess).
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Initially when you flashed 2.2, did you wipe data partition also? It seems to me that something screwy happened during your initial install that's causing these car problems. Are you using an ext3 partition and a2sd?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Good thought on the a2sd...didn't think about that.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Hey HipKat, welcome back. So, did you experience some of the same shannigans over in that thread as we've seen here? I remember hearing how people were saying that MikG caused a lot of problems, so I wonder if those people lit that board up to.

And for the market, I've had that issue back on froyo. Back then, I looked at cache partition with root explorer and deleted the #.apk files and retired the market download and found that worked to dl and install the apps. I haven't experience this happen to me yet on MikG, but wanted to throw this possible fix out there.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
I miss mik g on my phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
So do we! ;)

EDIT: So did you decide to get the 3d or are you sticking with the OG?
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Yes, please find a way to root and join us crazy kids again. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
:-)

So far still OG. You guys are the best. I got to say. I love to observe the jade¦nick duo shake some kids down. :-)

My fiancee has been real relieved however. No excessive modding. Except that I've been able to do some modding while unrooted anyways. :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
LOL..yeah I could probably go that route with my wife for now to get the 3d, because I wouldn't be able to do anything to it, but I would just nab her OG and dev with it. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Duo? Eh, he may be a sidekick or something, kind of like LeBron James is.........:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I will take that as a compliment, for sure. You can compare me to that guy any time. However, he's got more athleticism in his big toe than I do in my entire body and I consider myself pretty athletic.

I was thinking more like Batman and Robin, you being Robin of course.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilverPosition:
Initially when you flashed 2.2, did you wipe data partition also? It seems to me that something screwy happened during your initial install that's causing these car problems. Are you using an ext3 partition and a2sd?

Coiled & Nick: Once the troubles began, I did a couple Cache/Dalvik wipes and reflashed 2.2 (having previously restored apps, but no data via TB). After you guys responded, I wiped Cache/Dalvik/Data, didn't do any restores, and the brand spanking new reflashed, unrestored version of 2.2 still FCed on Car Panel. I can live without it, of course (since HTC still works), but like Mik, I prefer it. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
But you aren't doing a full wipe...You need to wipe everything in amon ra EXCEPT sdcard. Boot/system included.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilverPosition:
Coiled

"Are you using an ext3 partition and a2sd?"

Nope.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilverPosition:
@Nick

Ahh. K. Thanks. I'll give that a try.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txlXcJDtDwM
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
No problem. Good luck.

Be sure to full wipe and flash 2.2, reboot, sync google, reboot, and try it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Oboy, Oboy, a jade youtube link!!! :D:p

EDIT: Well played...Great song.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Thank you. And yes, it is. I just went to get the link and I had to leave the whole song on :).
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Ha..Yeah me too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] normntaz:
I had problems with the Google Car Panel, too. My problem was that when I went into Settings, then tapped Android Settings, the app would FC.

I don't normally use the Car Panel app, but for some reason when I plug a particular usb cable into the phone to charge, the phone thinks it is in a Car Dock.
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
i got B4 downloaded will flash later thanks for the work
[EVO 4G Android Development] clark44:
Anyone know a good kernel??
[EVO 4G Android Development] blizzard1017:
Netarchy seems to be the popular choice if you don't mind camera loss. Other than that there isn't a current Sense gingerbread kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MassStash:
try that tiamat 3.3.7?

Bout to flash B4, but on Kings unleash blk, and titanium was tweakin FC til i installed older vr off card... Going to flash n see what's up with it, not to mention the supasweet GB sense'edness!

Update: Definitely a new titanium prob, not mikGB imo...
[EVO 4G Android Development] DraeGZ:
That kernel is for AOSP only.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
the service is off by default... but to avoid fc in the settings app in case u guys would like to play with turning that on... i left it in but turned it off.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MassStash:
Running nasty good bro, peace

Sent from my "WinMo is officially dead to me" eBayed evo; Windows mobile is officially dead to me haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] jstn76rs:
I read in flipz thread that if you just re-download the apps and just restore data they work fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Helton566:
TB has been updated on market just re download and everything works. I had the same issue.

Sent from a place far far away!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rob the plumber:
I didn't wipe anything. I just installed the new version over the previous version. Everything seems fine.....should I wipe completely and re-flash for any reason?
[EVO 4G Android Development] captainchris:
just tap on the weather, hit the menu button, click settings and you will find the option to switch off the animations
[EVO 4G Android Development] captainchris:
Sorry guys, this is a repost. I didnt get any response, but i promise, Last time

Uploading a few pictures, have some questions. I was using CPUSpy to check out my cpu speeds and noticed that my cpu is either running at its highest settings or its lowest. The way i understand that it means anytime the screen is running or not, the computer is working as hard as it can thus draining the battery superfast. What i was wondering is if it is supposed to run like that, or if it should only speed up the cpu as needed. I also uploaded some screenies from the battery graph from settings and it shows how fast my battery drains except sometimes, not all the times, but sometimes it falls into "deep sleep" (which is what i want it to do obviously).

I also asked a few pages back if caulkins battery script works with even the stock rom, or if you have to use a custom kernel to use it. Thanks guys.

*edit- you can also see how the battery drops like 7% in 10 minutes or something like that.

**edit- right now i unplugged 1 hour ago and i am at 77%
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
To turn off that sound stuff, open the HTC weather app, then hit menu, and select settings. You'll see the sounds option at the bottom of the list of options. Just uncheck it and no more sounds.

EDIT: Captainchris beat me to it by 3 mins. LOL!
[EVO 4G Android Development] captainchris:
HAHA. I noticed that! I actually had made a mistake (cuz I am lazy) and fixed it after your post. I had forgot to put settings. so you da man!
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Can someone post the keyboard with arrows zip or apk file used?
[EVO 4G Android Development] b0tes:
Yep, that was it.

I instead re-downloaded the newest version from the market, which I think was recently patched, and got it to work without the FCs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fdavila17:
Hey somebody please post the link so I can download B-4	thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
Just click the download link in the OP. It'll take you to the appropriate post on themikmik.com to download b2, b3, or b4. Enjoy!

EDIT: to make it that much easier for ya, here's the link :-)

http://themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=602
[EVO 4G Android Development] MassStash:
Mozilla crashes because I need a GB version?

Sent from my "WinMo is officially dead to me" eBayed evo; Windows mobile is officially dead to me haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
Was the change log ever posted for beta 4?

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I believe that is a known issue with that particular app. All it does is take you to the regular Android settings menu anyway. See this post by aamikam about it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ManUtd777:
Thanks, I'll give it a go
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
When I heard the word duo, I was thinking more along the lines of Bert and Ernie.... :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Now that's funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51ZhEjB_KvU&feature=related
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Ahh, good times, those two.......
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Yes indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM95AwDgask&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[EVO 4G Android Development] LouRock:
Not sure if I missed this post or if anybody has asked, but what is the available internal storage MB after flashing this ROM?

Thanks.. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
For me, using a 2 gig EXT3 Partition and a2sd, I have 363mb internal free
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
About 360-380mb sounds about right after a fresh wipe/install.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
I just flashed it full wipe and clean install

shows 330 mb internal

no partition
[EVO 4G Android Development] mswlogo:
That's a pretty darn old message. You had to go back to February to find one, on a completely different ROM. I didn't read the total context. Thanks for the link though.

I did a search. Not one mention of "Wipe" from any post by Mik since after first 2.xx release.

I also searched the whole Download thread on 2.xx for wipe., no posts from Mik. But a WHOLE bunch from the wipe police.

And several others that ignored the wipe police and are fine.

Rebuilding APK's has zero effect on the DATA structures they reference.

If his change log is at all correct it should be fine.

If one app fails, just clear data on that app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] the_plattypus:
1) not bashing your advice, simply agreeing with a fellow forum member, which you could read as advice, not an insult. Most people posting are trying to overcome an issue, not face the potential of adding another.

2) Your gonna do what you want and what the first amendment entitles you, but beware that some minor changes to a ROM may not be significant enough to make the changelog, but may affect how the ROM operates, being the aamikam recommends a complete reflash after he rebuilds every ROM, he may assume that these changes are okay to make and not list in the log.

3) this has already been assessed in a different post.

4) glad we agree :) , but I don't assume I know everything, nor have I lead anyone to believe that.

5) being able to reflash when things go wrong is why we root to begin with, it gives us the flexibility to try new things with little chance of permanent damage. The big deal is principles. Help those that are up and coming in the flashing world understand the importance of following directions until they feel confident in their abilities to deviate from them (which obviously you are :) )

Not trying to cause your heart rate to go up, just trying to get you to understand. It's obvious that you are loyal to MikG ROM since you are willing to take heat in other developers threads for promoting MikG. I hope we can move past this and you understand where myself and a few other thread members are coming from. ;)

Sent from my MikG'd up EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] bluefire808:
I can flash 2.2 over 2.1 with just wiping cach and dalvic yes? Just want to make sure. I am pretty sure its the same base as 2.1 was the new base.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I chose that one specifically because it had the clearest explanation, not because it was the most recent. I think you missed the point of my post. For all other releases (including "small updates") he says to full wipe, but magically on 2.xx+ you don't just because he didn't repeat himself again? Do you really think that makes sense? Like I said, he has said it plenty of times to me and others, but you don't have to believe me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Well no offense to you, I'll take amikam's advice over yours, since he is the one making the roms.

It doesn't really matter if he has said wipe all after 2.xx or not because he has made it clear that you need to wipe all EVERY time you flash one of his roms, unless he states otherwise.

With that being said, to each their own, you do it your way, however if/when you have issues we will all know you didn't fully wipe.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
A full wipe is recommended, but you can try doing just cache and dalvik, and if you have issues then do a full wipe.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mswlogo:
Some will say yes. But others will say no.

Take your pick.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Really? Are you just trying to stir the pot or did you really not read the last 3 or so posts?

Wipe all, if you don't and have issues don't report them until you wipe all and reflash.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
For crying out loud, if it's a full sized ROM, 260mb +, give or take, you obviously should do a full, complete wipe, which 2.2 is.

Good grief.....

If you have problems and didn't do a full wipe, then it's your problem. Half this thread is wasted space on wiping or not

Swyped From The Hippest Phone Using XDA Premium
[EVO 4G Android Development] louforgiveno:
i got landscape rosie and remapped rosie.......

where can i get semi-transparent that won't overide these? MikG v2.15

tia
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
You need to let this go. Several pages ago you made your point about minimal wiping; no need to harp on it.

So when people are here posting about a myriad of problems they are experiencing, where would you suggest where to start the troubleshooting? You should be here to suggest more relevant fixes since you have such a problem with starting by asking how the install was done and what was wiped beforehand.

If you were to write a guide to install and troubleshoot problems, you wouldnt go with a safe and conservative method? So when replacing the alternator in your car, don't disconnect the battery 1st because you should be able to do the job without shorting something or shocking yourself?

I said this before, and i'll say it again; if you just flash over your stuff without wiping and it works for your setup, then good for you. Quit taking it so personal when others suggest to wipe as the first step in troubleshooting. Let people try to help others that come here with problems. I know you have a camera bug you've been trying to hunt down; don't be so high strung when people that don't know this suggest wiping to you. Let it go man.

Sent by an OG EVO on the go.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mswlogo:
Good grief, is right. Size has absolutely nothing do to with it. It really shows how clueless some of you are.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Which type of remap? Uses the rosie settings app? My theme at mikmik has rosie mods, one of which is landscape, browser, and semi-trans. It's for 2.2, but you could always nand and try it.

Sent by an OG EVO on the go.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mswlogo:
You Wipe Police are just as guilty of not letting it go.

I feel I'm helping folks just as much as the wipe police are.

My last post was objective enough to say there is disagreement.

But no, the wipe police have to come back and say no, your asking for trouble when someone asks.

If your gonna do that, then I'm gonna say flat out it works without wiping.

I'll say it every time someone asks. Just as you say it won't.

If you just said there is disagreement as I respectfully did I would not say anything.

But you guys just can't accept the possible it's a really stupid waste of time to wipe between these minor updates.
[EVO 4G Android Development] louforgiveno:
can you link me please
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
EDIT!!

Not worth the effort....
[EVO 4G Android Development] mswlogo:
Yes I would. I was probably coding before you were born.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I don't know if you read my post, but I did tell the last person that he could try not fully wiping, but if he has issues, then he should wipe. I'm a little confused as to why you are taking this so personally, to be honest. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I'll finish with this: Aamikam, the developer of this ROM, is the Chief of the Wipe Police, so I guess I'm proud to be part of them as well. Have a good night.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
What's the point of all this? You seeking validity of your position? No one makes anyone else here do anything. Someone asks if wipe is necessary, you say no, others say yes, and I suggest. Who cares after that?

Sheesh man. Stop the negativity.

/stupid topic

Sent by an OG EVO on the go.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Lou, I can give you a link later. But just navigate to 2.2 / themes&mods / themes. In the theme called flat-wired, the op has rosie mods. Let me know if you still need a link.

Sent by an OG EVO on the go.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
This is why you can't be taken seriously, "Wipe Police", never did I see where someone was calling you names.

Surprisingly, yes it was. Kudos to you

Again with the wipe police

None of us have said it won't work, quite the contrary, said it if works then great, but don't preach it as gospel when the developer himself has said you need to full wipe.

Calling your bluff there, yes you would and yes you have.

And you can't accept the possibility that it's a stupid waste of time not to, because 9 out of 10 times you are going to have to anyway, so why not do it from the get go.

I'm done with this topic...enjoy your night.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mswlogo:
Because when Mik was making a release a day it's was getting just plain silly.

The changes were minor.

When my Camera acted up. I didn't crawl in a corner and wipe.

I tracked the problem down to GeoTagging.

I see tons of posts telling folks to wipe and it doesn't solve their problem.

Many of the folks asking are stable on 2.1 or 2.15 and asking.

They know what a stable ROM 2.xx looks like (it's not perfect).

For folks coming over for the first time, absolutely wipe.

A lot of them have held back because they don't want to take the time to wipe.

And I'm just suggesting there is a darn good chance they don't have to.

If Mik came out with an update today, I probably would wipe. Because chances are he's made significant changes since 2.2. And sometimes he forgets what's in the ROM's :)

It's just plain common sense.

And most people asking have the common sense to ask.

CM7 folks do it ALL the time. And they do a complete recompile of everything.

And yes, it's a Full Rom each nightly build.

Sprint went from 2.2 to 2.3 (I'm sure it's a full compile with Kernel too) with out data wipe.

Good night.

P.S. Your post to the person asking was better but I think it scares folks in to wiping rather than share that there are several of us that have had no issues. And it's not just dumb luck.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
@mswlogo

With geotagging off, the camera app can still cause my phone to restart.

I find it insulting by referring to me as "you wipe police" in reply to my post. Search my involvement to the roms and devs I respect and follow. My contribution is greater than that label you're trying to shoehorn me into. Never have I called you names, and I expect to have the same respect in return.

Repeated over and over by many people here, its your choice to not wipe data. No one referred to it as "dumb luck" except you. What I said back to you originally is exactly what you said; if you run into unexplained problems, try wiping before saying the rom has bugs. If still no go, then lets try find a solution.
[EVO 4G Android Development] a senile fungus:
I can't believe this conversation is still happening.

~ I'm a fungi
[EVO 4G Android Development] MicrosoftBug:
+1
[EVO 4G Android Development] bluefire808:
Can I flash 2.2 over 2.1 with just a cache and dalvik cache wipe?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
You've got to be kidding me, right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] yeaaa:
does anyone's camera app open by itself while the screen is locked?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Moricon:
Well you would probably have to put them back but I am using the Kingdom rosie from the 1.xx release. It's semi transparent, has landscape and the Rosie Remap works fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mswlogo:
Yup. Go for it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Thank you for your contribution.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DNarsingh:
So I have been reading in other forums and threads that the flashable zip for the Sense 3.0 carousel from the Synergy thread does work on other roms as long as they are running Sense 2.1, can anyone confirm this for this rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] donnyxmx:
Alrighty Then
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
I'm going to venture a guess that it won't be directly flashable. MikG is odexed, so the install script would have to delete both the apk and odex file of the widget that's being replaced. Since synergy is deodexed, they wouldn't need to specify those files to be removed.

Only 1 way to know for sure. Do a nand before flashing so you can return back.

Sent by an OG EVO on the go.
[EVO 4G Android Development] the_plattypus:
If you link the zip that you are using I can adjust it to delete the odex files in case it doesn't work for you as is.

Sent from my MikG'd up EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] DNarsingh:
Here you go, thanks :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] the_plattypus:
Bout to watch transformers 3. Work on it after

Sent from my MikG'd up EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
Hey guys I've tried reinstallinh voice search, but can't get it to hear me when I hit the microphone on the keyboard. Anyone know of a fix?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kudzus:
Try this ... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14986618&postcount=8063
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidram:
Good movie specially the beginning
[EVO 4G Android Development] Fed4:
Is anybody having issues with swype? I get fc every time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] the_plattypus:
Try re-flashing....jk

Have you run fix permissions yet?

Edit: are you running beta?

Sent from my MikG'd up EVO