yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Ok...What we have here is a failure to communicate, :p.

If you've never set up a2sd or done anything with it then it shouldn't be using it. Yes they are built in with the capability to use it if you want, but if you haven't set it up it's business as usual.

Now a few apps that you install from the market, ie angry birds, install in the android.secure folder which typically gets wiped when wiping. So what you can do when you make a backup select android secure and see if that keeps them.

If you are restoring a backup you shouldn't need to wipe anything, just restore it. Try that out and see if they still go away.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
He has man..and that is the thread you are in my brother. MikG
[EVO 4G Android Development] klarthur:
Haha I'm sorry. I wasn't able to convey my message as well as I had it thought up in my head :) Thank you very much for the help, I will definitely try it with my next backup and see if that fixes it :) thanked!
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Definitely don't want to start a flaming session, but we're in this so-called modern age, which can also be called the spoon-feeding age... I know that looking at my stats I may seem like a noob, but the fact is I flash something almost daily, root almost weekly and only had 1 issue which was resolved with good ol' adb... and the great knowledge I got was from reading and having patience... For ex; I came from running CM7 last month because I got a little "accustomed" with Warm 2.2, and if you read u'll know Titanium backups from froyo won't work on gingerbread, but gingerbread is gingerbread sense or not, so I figured, my CM7 tb backups should work on MikG, right? it did, and didn't have to ask for "guidance", just made a nandroid backup just in case and that's it...!! No harm done, no trolling, and life goes on...

BTW, since I installed this Rom, it has been running extra smooth, no issues (except for the sometimes full brightness issue with the camera, I got that too) but I can live with that, it's just an awesome rom!!

Just my 2 cents..
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Well I feel like I should pay it all back because the mik/android community was great to me when I was first starting out a few months ago.

And, btw, it's not just xda that needs to be spoon fed, society as whole...Sadly, That's where we are. Gimme what you owe me, not gimme what I've earned.

Yes back on topic...:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Yeah no problem, happy I could help and hope those work out for you. Keep us informed. Have a good day.

ps. we've all had those moments where it sounds so good in my head and just can't figure out why the other one can't figure out what I'm trying to say. ;) Just ask my wife. :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Android Development] joehunni:
Oh, I was under the impression that this ROM was actually a collage of different ports and different versions of Sense as opposed to the stock release from a few days ago...
[EVO 4G Android Development] klarthur:
So true man, so true haha. Thanks again! Have a great day as well!
[EVO 4G Android Development] redwiz666:
if I'm not mistaking this is still based off of the evo shift leak since it has sense 2.1 and our OTA update still only has sense 1.0
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
A big +1 on all of that.

I wasn't even able to post in Mikfroyo thread for like 3 weeks after I flashed. I spent the whole time trolling/reading/learning from guys like jadeboy7, mitchellvii, chogardjr, jklong, etc, etc.

ps. welcome aboard.
[EVO 4G Android Development] samsunghater:
k mms works after all went in i use handcent and set the max mms size was set way small and couple other things so if mms is an issue just chk setting i didnt now it works fine....knock on something :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] JCorona:
Anyone got an issue when using power amp music player with a headset and you press the button to skip a song, the Google voice command pops up at the same time so you have to go unlock your phone and close it everytime you want to skip a song. I've tried this with two different headsets and does the same.

Wondering if this a Rom issue or just a simple setting.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Ok..I apologize, I misunderstood. Yes, like redwiz said, this ROM is a leaked version from the shift. However it is android 2.3 with sense 2.1 and some sense 3.0 built in, so yeah you are right there. My apologies for misunderstanding.

Now to your question. He is not, as far as I know, going to make an optimized ROM out of the newly released OTA because of what redwiz also said, it has sense 1.0, so why go backwords? Have the best of like 3 worlds here. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Thanks, and officially thanked!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ss12108:
Brightness...

I'm waiting for my fiance to stop chatting so I can check her stock updated evo for the same brightness issue...will report back as soon as she quits crowing...
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I wanted to bump this because it might have got buried earlier.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
That will be good to know and I'm sure it will be something Mik will want to know as well, so be sure to post over at the MikMik as well.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ss12108:
Will do...still yapping away though...
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
With all of the wiping discussions going on, this is what worked well for me: wipe data, dalvik, and cache. That's it, and they're only wiped once. I've flashed just about every available sense and aosp Rom this way and I never encountered any problems.

With that said, I can understand why someone would want to try wiping the system partiton, and to the lessor degree the boot partition. But I can not understand why someone would need to wipe the same partition multiple times. I'm familiar with transistor and flash memory operations, and I think these multiple wipes actually reduce the memory chip lifetime.

Can someone make an argument as to why multiple wipes would have any impact above a single wipe?

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
It really isn't necessary. There was talk (I can't confirm, I don't use it) that older versions (or at least one single version) of Clockworkmod Recovery didn't properly wipe (this was 5-6 months back maybe). It was found that a 2nd wipe typically took care of the problem. Since that time people have been wiping 2-3-4-5-etc times just to 'be sure'. I can't speak to CWM but at least on AmonRA most of the 'wipes' are actually a format and not some kind of rm *.* Trust me when I tell you that formatting a partition will INDEED wipe it completely on the first try. ;)

TLDR;

Multiple wipes should not be necessary under any circumstances, but if it makes you feel better, I don't see the harm in it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
You know it's funny you mention the multiple wiping thing...I didn't start doing multiple wipes until I read on Mikfroyo thread about it from a few people. I actually haven't done multiple wipes in a while. Chogardjr and I were chatting about that just the other day, about how he wondered if the multiple wipes were bad on the phones.

I have no argument for or against, however would love to hear some. Only argument against is that 1x has always worked for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] exSD:
There is no impact on wiping everything x3. People are wasting their time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jason Black:
Yupvthe brightness issue doesnt gp away like aamikam says...
[EVO 4G Android Development] CaptainJ5:
My brightness issue on my evo was fixed...the only bug I have now is YouTube. I choose a video to watch and a completely different video plays....but the battery seems normal considering its a stock kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] kc_hubbard:
Agree. Multiple wipes don't make much sense. Back in my HTC Hero days, I used to read to use CWM to wipe x 3. Never understood why then and still don't now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Personally, I think its bad for the device. Down at the hardware, transistor level, there is a common supply line that gets a voltage supplied when "formatting". I probably shouldn't go into too much detail, but if these supply lines get worn out or broken, then you lose the ability to erase blocks of memory. IE random, unexplained problems that may not be repeatable. Anyways, just thinking aloud here...

Edit: thanks everyone for your replies. It's nice to discuss something here that's not a problem.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kc_hubbard:
Gonna go way back here, but Mitch brought an SD card formatting utility to our attention months ago. There was quite a bit of debate as to whether it worked or not (I ended up thinking that it helped)...and there was also debate as to whether it shortened the SD card life. A couple of folks dug up some information that actually made it appear that memory on the card was degraded each time it was touched. Basically, memory has a fixed number of times it can be "touched" throughout its lifetime. In theory, multiple wipes would do the same to internal memory as well. Now, in reality, will that be something that we can see...doubt it. Its probably more likely that some other vital part of the phone will fail first, but....food for thought.

EDIT: Coiled, there ya go man. You were likely one of the people who found that info.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
That totally makes sense and with me kind of knowing your background, I certainly trust your opinion on the matter.

I just didn't see the need to do it more than 1x if it worked by doing it only 1x.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
It's similar to the sbc discussion; will we own our devices long enough to see any ill effects of trickle charge. My opinion is no, not in 2 years. Maybe 5 years....

Will we see any degraded memory issue in 2 years of use? Probably not. But if you would wipe every 3 or more times every time you flash a Rom, and you flash often, then I would tend to believe failure would be seen within 2 years.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Again makes complete sense and could, like you said, explain a lot of the random weird issues people are having. I'm happy you chimed in coiled, hopefully this will shed some light on the wiping stuff. Button hit.
[EVO 4G Android Development] quocamole:
d'oh, back ot...

quick google searches:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence

webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/computer_science/2007/completely_erase_harddrive.asp
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
Does anyone have an answer to this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ss12108:
I learned two things from her stock Evo:

1. The paypal app must have a bug. I can get one check to deposit on hers, but when I try to deposit a second without closing the app and going back in, I get the same force close.

2. The brightness issue is not there with her. I used the camera, made a call, opened email, used the paypal app, got the paypal app to FC while depositing a check using the camera...all the while her brightness stayed on auto.

Nick, what thread on Themikmik should I post this to?
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
All I can say is this Rom is SSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SSSSSICCKKK!!! Very smooth and everything is working great. There is so much I like about sense and I don't realise it till I run an AOSP rom for a while. Very nice work!!

one more question: is there any way to change the lag in the hard press popup on the keyboard. I noticed that it is much slower than a stock android keyboard when it comes to holding a key down for the secondary key pop up. It is only slow by a few miliseconds for me but it would be nice to adjust it with spareparts or something. Anyone know any way to do this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Well wasn't the issue with the brightness you put it on 30% and then took pic and it went back to auto/100%?
[EVO 4G Android Development] johno601:
best rom ive ever use, only need help with getting my contacts facebook pic updated (did full wipe already) been happening with every sense 2.1 rom ive used
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thumper213:
in what order do i flash and reboot the rom, radio and kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Chogardjr and myself will look into this delay in the kb. The code is in the smali, and the IME is a pain to deal with. Keep an eye out over at mikmik for this mod... ;)

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rccwill:
I have to say....that this rom is Fantastic......

only one....tiny ... insignificant request / complaint....

No Netflix..

But Heck....I'm willing to wait ... just super happy right now....

Question....should we upgrade the radio or not... never saw a definitive answer.
[EVO 4G Android Development] redwiz666:
the new kernel is with the rom so no need to flash it separately. When i flashed my i did the radio first then let the rom completely boot up then i the flashed the rom. i was using an earlier version of this rom at that time but i don't think that matter. so i would suggest radio then rom
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Follow the video in the OP
[EVO 4G Android Development] redwiz666:
i read some where on the forum that using the new kernel with out the new radios was giving people a shorter battery life. but your right there hasn't been anything saying to flash them. i know i did anyways and haven't had any problems
[EVO 4G Android Development] kkwus74:
think that was me lol:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
From what I've read and understand Netflix has been pulled from the market because they needed to fix it to make it work with GB. It's been discussed multiple times in the thread.

And for the radios, if it ain't broke.... ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Moricon:
Don't link facebook contacts. Just use the Facebook for HTC even if you do it just for the contacts. You can still use the actual FB app
[EVO 4G Android Development] johno601:
i meant to say i was using facebook for htc, once everything is linked only the status will update, the pic just stays at whatever their pic was when it first synced
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
I haven't upgraded my radio yet. So its not necessary. But as mentioned, maybe battery life would improve. I suggest not to upgrade your radios unless you have a very compelling reason to do so. If something goes wrong during this flash, possibility of phone brickage goes up. Someone mentioned only if the battery is pulled, but bad downloads can also do it.

Basically, just use caution with radios.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] louforgiveno:
worked fine here. didn't try it with lockscreen fwd/next, is that where you did it? and by headset do you mean wired or bluetooth?

let me know the scenario and i will test again
[EVO 4G Android Development] pastert33:
I cannot flash this rom for some reason. It gets stuck at the white evo screen.
[EVO 4G Android Development] louforgiveno:
first boot can take up to 10min, if you batt pulled, reboot to recovery /wipe cache & dalvik-cache - reboot and wait

ps: you did data/factory reset before flashing right?

Also just in case- for v1.03 there's a full install zip and an update zip (for v1.02 users to flash over v1.02) double check the zip
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Very quick install guidelines.

Use amon ra

Wipe at least data, cache, and dalvik

Flash mikg and wait upto 12min

Was this followed?

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ss12108:
It was actually both situations for me. On auto, it jumped to 100%, and even when just set to 30% it jumped to 100% on mine. With hers, neither happened.

Although for the record, it happens very sporadically on mine, but I pretty much forced the issue on hers and couldn't get the brightness to change on it's own.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Follow link in my sig to flash mikfroyo, can't go wrong.

Sounds like you didn't wipe.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rrivera:
I think I have a bug, when I try calling some one with an HTC EVO the call does not go thru. Does any body have a fix for this?

Thanx!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I'd post it in the bug section of 1.xx at the mikmik. I'd test it for you but I'm not on that. I can test in a little bit on my wives, because she's on mik g 1.02
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
?

You mean with your EVO with mikg, calling someone with an EVO, the call doesn't go through but other calls do?

Perhaps the other EVO lost service....

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Robbsta:
I upgraded my radio, pri, and nv but didn't really see much of a difference. Maybe more battery life as suggested above and slighty better data speeds but that's negilible and debatable, lol.

I always check the md5 checksum when flashing radios to ensure a good download.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Sorry couldn't resist, but wow!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jeffsanace:
If you have 1 or +1 in front of your contacts it will say network busy, remove them and you'll be fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jeffsanace:
Also for those seeing a significant increase in roaming, go back to pri 177_003 that seems to take care of it. Haven't roamed since going back, hope this helps.

There are no BUGS in this rom, just fixes for different EVO's.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rrivera:
Yes but I don't think is that because I tryed 3 different people and one of them was next to me and had signal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ss12108:
Alright its posted over there. Like I said before, its more of an annoyance than anything else. It takes 2 seconds to reset the brightness as long as I notice it right away.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Did you check with jeffsanace's suggestion with the 1's in front of the phone#? I can't fathom how the Rom would be able to tell you are calling another EVO and selectively make it fail. It may be an issue you are having, but its not a bug in the Rom.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] todah09:
does anyone know if there will be hdmi out working on this rom
[EVO 4G Android Development] rrivera:
Thanx buddy yeah I took the 1 out and now is working :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] ss12108:
It won't work on any roms with the kernel from the GB OTA update if I recall correctly. Until the source code for the kernel is released and other kernel versions can be developed, I think that's one of the few items that won't work.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember reading that earlier in this thread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] troyboytn:
I have scanned over this rom to every nook and cranny. It is as near perfect as it gets....with one exception. Compass does not work. Now I know this is not rom specific as this is the case with all Sence 2.1 ports. Hopefully when we get our kernel source code it will be fixed. Hats off to aamikam! Man, you've done here what no other "team" or "collaboration" has yet done! Fantastic work!
[EVO 4G Android Development] leon sprouse:
I'm beginning to beleive I'm in a Ford vs Chevy argument. heres why ; I use Clockworkmod and every time I have a smooth install. I have never had a problem.

So either I'm the luckiest user in the world or the problems these others are having comes from something else. Lets see , maybe , everyone who writes in about his problem/bug should say if he used Amon Ra or clockworkmod.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stanglifemike:
Only minor bug I have is when you push the phone button, call history doesn't show until you press any number and then the delete/back button on the dialer. You can obviously hit the "call history" button on the dialer to bring it up, but all other roms it shows immediately when you press the phone button. Not a real problem, just a minor annoyance...

This Rom is freaking awesome. It is my daily and my favorite Evo Rom to date! Thanks for all your work and dedication Mik!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ss12108:
IMAP Email Refresh

Was there any solution to this? I have peak and off peak set to 5 minutes for both of my IMAP accounts. Someone suggested wiping the app cache, but I checked and my Mail app has 0 KB in the cache, so I don't even have anything to clear.

I just opened the app and an email from 2 hours ago popped up...it seems to have gotten worse for me :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Or everyone could create a Sig/my setup like what a lot of us have in our sigs. I'm on tapa so that's why I don't have it on mine right now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
Thank u. If I could hit my imaginary thanks button on my Android app I would :p hopefully it can be done. It would be really nice :)

Another question I haven't seen a mod for but I prolly didn't look in the right place, is there a way to change the dock without using a diff homescreen app? I love the LP and go launcher launchers at the bottom of the screen and thats one of the only reasons I use them. There are a lot of other custom stuff I like but that's the main one. So is there a way to customise the launcher to have more buttons or even scroll? I would use a diff launcher but it breaks all the personalise settings from sense and the popup from long press. Tia!

Sent from my awesomesauce Decked out Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] steal25:
i'll check it out for you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
You are correct, it's been mentioned in almost every other thread, that and SBC are the two main items waiting for be fixed as soon as the kernel source become available...

At least the novatec screens got fixed...!
[EVO 4G Android Development] louforgiveno:
is hdmi broken on the OTA gingerbread also? or is hdmi not working cause this is a "shift" hybrid?
[EVO 4G Android Development] pastert33:
Well tried to flash again and same result. I waited upwards of 20 minutes and nothing. Flashed a flash all(3) times and also did it manually and still wont boot. Really want to see how this rom is but guess I wont be able to.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lrod0175:
Sounds like a bad download, download from your computer and send it to your SD card.

Lrod's evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] steal25:
read one post above yours..
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lrod0175:
For those of u having the no show of your downloaded apps on your market, go to settings, power, uncheck fast boot and restart, you will have all your downloaded apps in your market.

If u are tired of messing around and loosing your pics on the stock mms, use Hancent from the market, it also has the 5mb for mms on the evo, along a whole bunch of themes, so it is worth a try.

Lrod's evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] louforgiveno:
so htc/sprint's idea of an update breaks hdmi? WTF they couldn't iron that out prior to release.
[EVO 4G Android Development] steal25:
alot of apps need to be updated to work or work properly with the updated Gb version.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tatnai:
for market, if the above does not work:

1. make sure backup/restore are unchecked in Settings > Privacy (uncheck "automatic restore", uncheck "back up my settings")

2. go to Settings > Applications > Manage Applications, scroll down to Market, click Clear Cache.

3. reboot

for the loosing pics problem:

1. make sure you did step 1 above under "for market"

2. in settings > accounts & sync, and remove both facebook accounts

3. reboot into recovery, and wipe cache and dalvik

4. boot, add your facebook accounts back

5. should fix your problem, make sure to leave backup and restore off in settings, or your problem may come back
[EVO 4G Android Development] louforgiveno:
well, i hope they drop that code sooner than later. Let the pros (xda dev's) make it right.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stkiswr:
Damn. It's been working flawless and today all my contact pics for messaging stopped showing up. Hmmm. Still really clean rom
[EVO 4G Android Development] jrdoctor:
I flashed 1.03 and I have to say. THIS ROM IS THE ........ Anyway, I have not noticed the issues that others are having. I get my SMS / MMS messages. Email works, my 4G is good. WiFi works. This ROM is awesome.