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[Nook Color General] LongbowFoSho:
You do NOT have to use ADB for anything. I've never used it and I've been on rooted stock, a different version of Froyo (not found here) and now CM7 with absolutely zero use of ADB.

All you need to get started is use WinImage or Win32DiskImager to write the image to the SD card, boot it and you're done.
[Nook Color General] Gin1212:
Lol... I guess i'm not the average user, I just assume most have worked in MS-Dos before and can run a command line program should they need too.
[Nook Color General] karnovaran:
adb is not hard. the drivers can possibly be a pain, but adb is extremely simple and very well documented around here.

As always - If you want to take advantage of your hardware, you will have to spend the hour to learn these very basic hacking procedures.
[Nook Color General] lanzagas:
I agree with you ADB is not always necessary... And honestly unless you are going to use it often I would avoid it just because the pain that is to set it up and remember the commands when you use it once in a while.

In my case I was setting the NC to use CM7 from a SD without rooting. I used these fantastic instructions: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1000957

But on my PC WIN7 x64 the steps that are required to install GAAP didn't work for me because the PC can't read de uSD once is formatted by the CM7 installer, so I had to use ADB and these instructions: http://www.nookdevs.com/Honeycomb_Google_Apps_and_Market

and installed ADB using these instructions:

http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_USB_ADB
[Nook Color General] dsf3g:
Agreed. I've rooted my NC with Autonooter, cutomized it a fair bit, installed the Amazon Market, and even disabled OTA all without the need for ADB.

RootExplorer and Sqlite editor are the most exotic tools I've used.
[Nook Color General] I Am Marino:
Alright so overall, rooting the NC is slightly more difficult but far from impossible.

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[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
No, i wouldn't say it is difficult at all. To root the stock OS, you need about 10-15 min of free time. After that, you can flash CM7 (which is of course pre-rooted) or Froyo (if you like old OS's) without any trouble.
[Nook Color General] poppscc:
With the galaxy wifi only coming in @ 350, it's a real alternative to the nook. Native froyo, Bluetooth, front and rear cameras, and a mic. Definitely worth the premium IMO.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Given that we have CM7, "native froyo" is meaningless. We have BT (again, with the better CM7). Yes, we lack cameras , and the mic, but in no way is that worth $100. One might argue the GPS is perhaps worth that, but that still is debatable...
[Nook Color General] I Am Marino:
I don't see GPS, camera, and a mic worth $100, I still have my phone

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[Nook Color General] poppscc:
sure, it's not worth it to you, but sure as hell worth it to me. I dont need the cameras, but the mic is a nice touch for the google services. BT would work 100% rather than partially. Froyo is better than an almost done CM7.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Uh... sorry, but CM7 reached stable several days ago. Yes, work goes on with even more improvments, but CM7 is done (and better than Froyo.. let go of the outdated OS people....).

And the only thing my BT does not do is the headset profile. Other than that, i can use GPS just fine, headphones just fine, etc...
[Nook Color General] poppscc:
sure, cm7 is stable, and at the same time there are still battery issues. So in conclusion, Nook froyo has sleep of death issues, on top of no bt. CM7 has battery issues and bad battery life in general, and partially working bt.

Until those issues are resolved, the samsung tab has a clear advantage. Mic, working bt, front and rear cameras, gps, and all the buttons. Worth the 100 bux, but not too much more. many got the NC for 200 flat, which is a totally different price point compared to 350.
[Nook Color General] lanzagas:
I don't have a Galaxy Tab but I read some reviews where people who had both said that the NC had a far better screen. For me that alone is a deal breaker but I'd like to experience it first hand.
[Nook Color General] Gin1212:
Guess you haven't seen the quandrant scores from the CM7 threads =\... whatever, if you want to buy inferior hardware/software (less of the gpu I admit) for $100-150 more. Go ahead =D.

But chances are good that if you're on these forums, it's because you don't mind getting your hands dirty. I've only really had to use ADB for one thing, and that was gapps. Other then that, root explorer is more than enough to install programs from there, or edit files.

If people are to stupid to learn a couple of commands, then they shouldn't be playing with this stuff... I don't claim to be a genius by any stretch of the imagination, but I gladly spent the few hours learning how to get my nook color setup without asking anyone to hold my hand.

So if a camera and bluetooth(talking is the only advantage here) are what you really need in a device, get the more expensive tab. If you're like everyone else who has a camera and a cell phone and don't mind getting your hands a little dirty; buy the nook.
[Nook Color General] Gin1212:
Battery issues and bad battery life in general? You clearly don't have a nook w/ cm7 installed. As you're trying to convince people there are two big problems in CM7.

CM7 has one problem with battery, it doesn't go into as deep of a sleep as Stock. That's it. Meaning when you're not using the Nook color, it's using more battery than the stock os would.

CM7 dies at a rate of about 1-2% an hour, while not being used.

Stock dies at something like... 0.2-0.5% an hour.

This only applies when you push the power button to put them to sleep, when you're actually using them... They both use the same battery amount! So if you're watching a movie on stock, you're not using any less of the battery then you would on CM7.

If you have a problem charging your device at night, then electronics probably aren't for you at all... =\
[Nook Color General] I Am Marino:
I was under the impression CM7 was the best the NC can offer.

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[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
You are correct in that impression. yes, you generally have to slap the NC on the charger at night, as caused by the non deep sleep. Thats it. Video is working great, 3D is better than ever, we have decent bluetooth, and a very fast and stable system overall. People saying otherwise are either:

using crappy SD cards that cause the system to be unstable

haven't tried the official release and don't know what they are talking about.

Do i want battery life to improve? You bet your sweet arse i do! Is it a problem big enough to make me give up ALL the other bonuses? HELL no.
[Nook Color General] poppscc:
according to your figures, it's a huge difference. it's literally 4-5 times the difference in battery drain. There is a noticable battery difference between froyo and cm7. I typically get 4-5 on cm7 and 5-6 on froyo.
[Nook Color General] I Am Marino:
What kind of SD card should I look for?

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[Nook Color General] Caspar07:
Unless it's a problem to charge batteries at night, it's not an big issue.

I have tried Ipad and the Samsung Tab, and picked up the Nook for $200. Great value.

And in my opinion a fully fledged tablet.
[Nook Color General] Gin1212:
Again, only when you're not using it. In which time, you are fully capable of turning it completely off. When using it you're going to get the same battery life between the two.
[Nook Color General] skwalas:
huh. some of us grew up when DOS was still the killer app of the day. our first family "laptop" was the size of an overnight suitcase...
[Nook Color General] Gin1212:
Case in point, you'll be able to figure out ADB relatively easy =\
[Nook Color General] EverythingNook:
are you going to run cm7 or any other rom off the sd card or the internal memory?
[Nook Color General] I Am Marino:
I plan to run CM7 off the internal memory.

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[Nook Color General] EverythingNook:
well then for the sd card i recommended http://www.bestbuy.com/site/SanDisk...160151026&skuId=8439932&st=micro sd&cp=1&lp=1
[Nook Color General] Fekish:
Hello, i'm considering buying one my self now. Well for now is just in my options...

Does it have GPS? So if rooted, is just like any Android device? Because i have an android phone, and i dont want to go into something very different...

Also it is extremely important to read magazines... Would it be ok and comfortable to read color books and magazines?

I cant afford more cash into a tablet, and i am even thinking of getting a chinese unbranded tablet! :eek:
[Nook Color General] javip:
here's what i usually recommend in terms of sd card.

8GB under $20. class2

16GB under $30. class2

San disk are nice but way over priced. that $24 at BB can be used to buy a 16GB at radioshack.

i've been using gigaware microsd cards for over 2 years already with no problems. my 4GB is the one i use to flash my nook over and over to test. my 8GB is the one i use strictly for data.

:D
[Nook Color General] Fekish:
From where can we find it at that price?

How come you took Nook instead of Samsung? Just for the price difference?
[Nook Color General] Tschumi:
There was an offer on e-bay a while ago. It run for just a week and was available only in usa.

Πάντως, σαν μηχάνημα είναι εξαιρετικό
[Nook Color General] Fekish:
Thanks :D

You have it? And it runs smoothly and no actual problems?

Unfortunately i cant find it so cheap now anywhere on the internet!!!
[Nook Color General] Fekish:
I saw now the offer online...

The price now on ebay is $225:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NOOK-Color-Barn...ocket_PC_s&hash=item1c1b308709#ht_1572wt_1059

(Manufacturer refurbished)
[Nook Color General] furius:
I choosed NC for the low price (205€ on eBay, shipping to Italy included) and for the support from cyanogen and xda community

what can I say... it's a very good device, i 'm able to do all I need, including tethering from my nexus one, surf the web with flash contents and let play my small baby with a lot of nice touch games...

the only things i miss are aptic feedback (special on the keyboard) and microphone (for voice recognition)

but anyway I saved about 300€ compared to an iPad2... ;-)
[Nook Color General] gudism:
i say awesome device! no major dramas at all.

and for $250US it is a bargain compared to things like the ipad.

and support here and other sites is amazing.
[Nook Color General] Fekish:
ok thanks that's great!

So since i am rooting my Motorola Milestone, i shouldn't have any problems in rooting this baby! :)

Would you know how much internal space it has?

I'll start looking for any friends in USA to bring it for me! :)
[Nook Color General] furius:
follow this thread:

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1030227

i was running cm7 about 20 minutes after unboxing my nook ;)
[Nook Color General] poppscc:
The nook is the best for the price by a good margin. No GPS but the screen is very good.
[Nook Color General] Gin1212:
$20 and a custom rom, bam, you have GPS
[Nook Color General] Caspar07:
The price was on eBay with a $50 discount a while ago.

I wanted a cheap tablet. The Samsung was too expensive.

The only thing I miss is the 3G modem, but to that price I can live without it.
[Nook Color General] Solarist:
Figured I would chime in with my experience, as a relatively new Nook Color owner. I bought it a week ago and at this point running CM7 and couldn't be happier. I also am running Win7x64 and I never had to use ADB to get CM7 with GAPPs on the Nook, using the guide here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1030227

Overall experience has been great. It isn't quite as silky smooth as my Captivate (which is also not stock..), but all-in-all, I have no complaints compared to the $250 I spent on it.
[Nook Color General] I Am Marino:
I've been trying on Craigslist to find one for 150, lot of ads but no replies.

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[Nook Color General] Tschumi:
Yes, I bought it new from e-bay for 250$+25$ for the usps to Greece. Paired it with a 16Gb sdcard, a gps bluetooth device, Dalingrins 1.1ghz kernel and the latest CM7 nightly. Runs very smoothly with only minor problems (video quality it's not the best yet but I'm sure someone's working on it).
[Nook Color General] Gin1212:
The newest 1.3ghz (4/24) kernel fixes video very well. Moboplayer is the best player for software decoding and hardware decoding hasn't had problems for a while now.
[Nook Color General] xdamn:
Whether you want to use it as a tablet or just enjoy experimenting with all the roms and possibilities, it's worth it.

-XDAmn
[Xoom General] bwcorvus:
Alright in the irc channel we have figured out a few ways to get into recovery if you kill your system on the wifi version.

1) Hook up usb cable, open terminal/command, power on xoom, copy and paste this in the terminal:

adb wait-for-device && adb reboot recovery

2) Download CWM recovery.img. Go into fastboot mode (power and volume down). Once there paste the following in terminal/command:

fastboot flash boot recovery.img

Then just reboot.

3) If you wipe out your system hard enough, it will actually put you into a recovery loop, so just set back and wait.

Thanks to

DeadRinga for #1

Bigrushdog for #2

BWCorvus for #3
[Xoom General] chaz03:
Not entirely sure what you mean by kill your system, but i have a wi/fi model that i attempted to re-lock and ended up a real problem.

"Failed image LNX 0x0002

Starting Fastboot protocol support"

and alternatively in the bootloader I also have

"Starting RSD mode 2"

Cant get a single sight of my xoom on the pc. Nothing in RSD or adb commands. Is this a solution then for my case. Im pretty sure im straight up cold-stone brick.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badkuk:
hi peeps,

At least in the 1Ghz cpu weight devision, is it still worth buying at ~US$545? i'm not that impressed with the past and current 1Ghz offerings. My main concern is software updates -- which, ironically, was why i hesitated buying the SGS a year ago. But then Samsung appears to have released a Gingerbread update ahead of everyone else( *cough* HTC *cough*), has even announced that it won't lock the bootloader, and appears to have a ton of custom ROMs and just as much "unofficial" developer support.

Then again, the projected price range of the dual core monsters coming in May isn't really that big; imho a US$100 price premium is well worth it for me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bawdz:
I think as of right now, anyone who wants a phone should wait for the SGSII, but as for buying the SGS, im glad i bought it when i did (jan). The community make it what it is. If there wasnt custom roms to speed the phone up then i would have been bitterly disapointed with the lag of a stock SGS, yes gingerbread is quick but its been awhile in the making.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
One year and another month different story SGS 2 on sale SGS 1 at a cheaper price .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Unrealwolf:
Nope. Save your money for SGS2 or dual-core HTCm whatever suits you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisb1977:
I would definitely hang on for whichever dual core floats your boat, be it HTC or SGS II. As good as the SGS is (I love mine) it will struggle to compete with the heavyweight dual core handsets.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunjar:
Get a Tegra 2 based device. See how much juice they consume though.

SGS 2 is silly big, well for me personally, there ought to be some constraints to limit overall size of device, afterall its mobile phones we're talking about. Bigger devices defeat the purpose of having a mobile phone and tend to look rather unprofessional, more like portable gaming devices.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johnny55555555:
I'm going to take the opposite opinion to many on here.

+es

SGS is a solid, reliable, known platform, that just keeps improving with each android revision.

not possible to have a problem that can't be answered by reading here

****load of 3rd party hardware, from spare batteries on up

-es

doesn't have dual core, waaa waaa my penis isn't big enough, go and buy 3 spare batteries to run the dual core SGS2, better still buy a laptop, because the only people I have seen with ANY kind of computing power problems are frankly assholes who could bring a cray to its knees in a week.

============================

phones have got to the place desktops got with 3ghz cpu's and xp/linux, almost nobody actually needs faster more than 0.5% of the time.

============================

The next big revolution is going to be in battery tech, when you can get 5000 mAh into the volume and mass of 1000 mAh today, that will open new doors

thermal rejection of an SGS at full battery draining whack is already as high as you can go and stay healthy silicon wise.

just be grateful it ain't x86.... (speaking as someone who used to run 64bit MIPS Cobalt RAQ2's back in the day when they were the new kid on the block... wow, an empty pizza box with not even any heatsinks on the silicon...)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cioly:
save your money for SGS II ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmjuban:
i just bought mine last week. got it for around $470 (8GB version) in Vietnam. the reason i got it was mainly due to the great screen as well as the strong community developer support which coming from the Galaxy Spica is a BIG difference in the overall user experience. I love tech and love tinkering with my phone. I don't believe dual core will make that much of a difference unlike on a laptop/desktop where you really have to run multiple programs (note: antivirus). I know my SGS will be astounding as soon as the devs finish tweaking the heck out of the GB code!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benoitb85:
If you are going to pay that kind of price (around 500$) and you care about updates, why don't you get a Nexus S ?

Same phone, slightly better and corrected hardware-wise. It is supported by Google and CyanogenMod.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madmanden:
I think it's worth considering buying second hand. I just bought a 1 month old handset for quite a bit less than a new one. It's in perfect condition. And I'll use it for the next year and then upgrade when the SGSII (and others like it) are down to a reasonable price. Rinse and repeat (too expensive to be on the bleeding edge all the time :D).
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmjuban:
the deal breaker for me on the nexus s was the lack of micro SD support
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
I had 2 deal breakers...

No microsd slot and no fm radio.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s88:
depends on $$$$
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] method_overload:
I agree. SGS is still a great buy.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badkuk:
honestly, i do find dual cores a bit of an overkill for phones...but yeah, the price diff is just too close, esp. if you compare it with the G2X. dual core it is then. i just wish HTC(and all the other brands) would stop with the signed bootloader crap.

Then again, once the other dual cores come out, then the SGS drops to US$350...hmm...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soulbrighter:
For sure it wasn't worth buying one year ago when I bought mine...

maybe it's like wine, the older the better :D

Soulbrighter
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webwude:
In Austria, you get the I9000 for 299€ .

A year ago, I paid the same + 24 months contract...

As you look around and see the tons of fixes / mods / developments, I would suggest, this is a very good buy even though I guess, SGS 2 is quite interesting as well...

Kind regards,

ww
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebazman:
in scotland you can get galaxy s's from £170 second hand on gumtree.

most are around £200 but to me thats still a bargain

regards
[Optimus One, P500, V General] roudiare:
Hi,

I have an LG Optimus One P500 and would like to root it. However, I spent all my cash on it and I wouldn't want to brick it or VOID THE WARRANTY. I need a method of rooting my Optimus that will not void my warranty, preferably a one click root app or something.

Please help me.

Thanks.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] victortangocharlie:
If your phone came with android 2.2.1 or 2.2.2 onboard, then rooting first involves downgrading the firmware to 2.2. This process has the most chances of bricking your device. There is no concrete way of ensuring that bricking does not happen, though if you follow the instructions correctly, you will in all probability have no problems as lots of people have sucessfully completed the instructions.

You can chose to root your phone using a one click app like 'z4root'. Since there is an option to unroot your phone,you wont void your warranty.

You can even restore the phone to factory state even after installing a Custom recovery or Custom ROM by installing Original Firmware provided by LG using the same procedure used to downgrade yourr firmeware. This will remove all the traces of your fiddling with the phone and thus will preserve warranty.

I suggest that you read this -

[HOWTO] Rooting, Installing - Android SDK, Custom Recovery, Custom ROM's
[Nexus S General] kingvaj23:
ive been running cm7 and nexuscollab on my nexus for about a week(just came from mt4g) but out of nowhere today i got "emergency calls only i flashed cm7, then nexuscollab,then stock,took out sim card, full wipe of, data,cache,dalvik cace,format boot,system..i basically tried everything. I am very familiar with roms rooting etc but idk what to do now..has anyone gone thru this or know the solution? i dont wanna go back to my mt4g:/ thanks in advance
[Nexus S General] simms22:
it sounds like your sim card might have died. do you have access to another sim card or somebody elses?
[Nexus S General] kingvaj23:
well i also took out the sim card and booted it up and it still said emergency calls and also searching for tmobile network..i have an extra one ill call and activate it if i dont figure nothing else out
[Nexus S General] simms22:
i keep my sim card in my nexus s and keep my nexus one without a sim card. the nexus one always says "emergency calls only", so im assuming that your phone doesnt see the card. first thing that i would check would be the sim card itself, the other option isnt as pleasant. anyways, most likely its the sim. ive had them die on me before, more than a few times.
[Nexus S General] kingvaj23:
oh man thanks my phone works now!! :)) noob:/
[Nexus S General] simms22:
great! im glad that it was easy :D
[Nexus S General] adewey234:
I just started having this issue as well. I was flashing the recovery manager update and it froze and it caked my Recovery partition as well. I had to go through several different things just to get my phone working (while i was @ work). Do you think its possible that the recovery manager messed up the SIM?
[Nexus S General] kingvaj23:
i think i messed up because i didnt flash the radio.zip for nexus collab..and also i kept getting a notification to update rom manager yet there was no option..probably right
[Nexus S General] adewey234:
Well I've flashed both KB1 and KB3 and no luck so far.
[Nexus S General] adewey234:
I have a spare sim at home, I'm going to try that, but I've never had a SIM do what it is doing now. Ill post an update if it works. I wonder if flashing the radio can stress the SIM card over time, because honestly I've flashed the radio like over 40 times...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Valinorian:
Thats to expensive. Just wait a month for the next batch of dualcore phones. Galaxy S2 is gonna cost almost the same and that phone is sweet!

Also dont focus to much on updates. There isnt much differences between the android updates.

For us galaxy s users it was a big thing, but that was because samsung sucked at tweaking android 2.1 and 2.2 so the phone was slow. From 2.2.1 till now samsung finally got it right even though they still use the slower rfs filesystem.

Get the galaxy s2.