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[EVO 4G General] ncfastls1:
I just checked mine at it said I was eligible for a $75 upgrade on 6/1/11 with a 2 year contract...where as before (like a month ago) it said I had a $150 upgrade. I remember seeing a number somewhere for spring customer service or something that you could call and they would roll it back to your previous upgrade amount? I mean yea $75 is better than nothing but still, they jewed me on my original upgrade. And I'm supposedly a gold member.
[EVO 4G General] tomh1979:
According to the store today when I visited, they said I'll still get the $150 come june, but I guess we'll see when I go in, I'd still think I would only get $75 though.
[EVO 4G General] KB112:
You're only gonna get $75 off retail bro. Unless you get the right rep on the phone to change it. Better off buying on craigslist/eBay and 10mos from then, you'll be full upgrade eligible.

I made a thread about Silver Premier Override, check it out. It might work for you, but not technically supposed to. Or you can jump to the $89mo plan and be Gold eligible in 3mos, then switch back to your old plan after upgrading.
[EVO 4G General] KB112:
Lulz true dat.
[EVO 4G General] tomh1979:
Cpr certified, this horse will not die darnit, I will not give up.

Again I'll find out when I go back in June, not really a big deal to me, but if they claim I'm eligible, and still at $150, then great, if not $150, but $75, then again great, either way I'm happy, cause everything I've seen or have talked to says I can upgrade, what is at question is how much off though.
[Atrix 4G General] apolloms:
I've used the phone for maybe 5 min of app surfing on engadget, sent 10 texts, no calls. no widgets other than beautiful live home. Phone has had the screen off and I'm seeing about a 10% drain every two hours...seems rather fast...
[Atrix 4G General] HungryEel:
that sound better than what i am getting.

There is another threading running already on battery life

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1038363
[Atrix 4G General] gachiennuocmam:
Check your battery saving mode. That sounds like you guys have some apps keep syncing continuously even in standby.
[Atrix 4G General] zen kun:
IMO seems pretty normal to me. more if you have data in background
[Atrix 4G General] calvin398:
I've noticed that your signal strength really determines how long your battery lasts. During the day when I'm getting 1-2 bars, I drain about 10%/2 hours. If I'm in an area with great service, then I'll get 3, rarely 4 hours per 10%
[Atrix 4G General] lesonal:
The battery life on grey blur sucks
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
I get about 4% per hour doing just about nothing except for syncing my Corporate Sync and Gmail accounts.

Try turning off sync and see what happens.

Try turning on airplane mode and see what happens.

I'm miffed that the display uses so much battery life. Even at its darkest it seriously chews up the battery.
[Atrix 4G General] tripleh3lix:
That battery just blows on the phone. If you are coming from an iPhone you will be disappointed. Not sure how it stacks up against other android phones, people are claiming the battery is amazing and are getting 20+ hours out of it. I bet they probably have their phones rooted and don't have motoblur on. Well I am not rooting my phone just yet.
[Atrix 4G General] firefox3:
8 hours ... and im at 65 with grayblur
[Atrix 4G General] tripleh3lix:
I just live chatted with Motorola. They are sending a replacement battery and I've told them everything I've done. I asked them where do I send the old one back to? they told me to keep it (: So I now have two batteries!
[Atrix 4G General] facetubespam:
oh? what number did you call at Motorola? I might want to exploit this in the future near the end of the 1 year warranty :p
[Atrix 4G General] lesonal:
What have you been doing for the part eight hours? I'm three hours in with 65 left
[Atrix 4G General] calvin398:
If your phone isn't making 20 hours then you have a defective battery. If I don't touch my phone, running a calendar app, rss feed, weather, music widgets, pandora widget, simi clock, circle battery, and with grey blur, I'm losing 3% an hour with good signal. I can squeeze out 5 hours of display if I run it to death.
[Atrix 4G General] squarejp:
I have my phone rooted but still it drains like crazy for 10% an hour even at sleep with Nightime saver ON. I've uninstall a lot of the data consuming apps such as weather widget and news feeds. It wasn't like that before.

I then called Motorola and they are sending me a replacement battery. Hopefully it solves my battery issue.
[Atrix 4G General] GTTG_Atomik:
13 hours still showing 60%. Just hard cycled the battery and reset the stats this morning.
[Atrix 4G General] xnastyx:
12 hours and im at 76 right now.. I rarely get below 50 for the day
[Atrix 4G General] panflute:
battery drain

10% every couple of hours sounds right and I have a ton of things and widgets running in the background. I bought THREE (3) 1930 mha batteries and a wall charger off ebay for $15 so I have plenty of power to spare no matter what.
[Atrix 4G General] squarejp:
Can you tell me your settings? I was like that before but now it's 10% an hour even sleeping! Help!
[Atrix 4G General] corboto:
My battery drains about the same as the OP. I take my phone off the charger at 8am. By noon I'm at 80% and at 50% by 5pm. Its 8:30pm now and I'm at 40%.

Here's my day: two phone calls about 3 minutes each; three texts; about 10 min of Facebook; 10 min of words with friends; and a few min of email reading. This battery blows. I'm usually at 20-30% by 11pm when it goes back on the charger. This battery blows. Battery saver is on. What a joke.
[Atrix 4G General] tripleh3lix:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/chat/chat_launch/

didn't call anyone. i just entered my info. they will be open tomorrow morning, just chat them or even call them under the call us tab and tell them that your doing everything u can to save power and it's still only getting 4 hours of juice. they can't really do anything but send another battery to you. i hope this new one helps a bit..
[Atrix 4G General] xnastyx:
wifi and gps are always on maximum battery saver nothing else really

its at 73 now

14.5 hours since last charge

1 hour display time
[Atrix 4G General] minooch:
Mine is at 29Hrs & 1% battery

2.5hrs of screen on
[Atrix 4G General] fastbikedroid:
That's about what I see with low voice use.
[Atrix 4G General] TfzSCVang:
I am not too sure how you guys are getting all your percentages of battery drains per hour, unless if you are dividing the amount of battery used by time since last charged (from 100%), because the phone sadly only has 10% battery incremental readings, and battery usage is not linear depending on what of apps you are using (so its probably a good idea to use spare parts to see how long you used any apps for).

In regards to the OP though, my battery drains at about a little more than 10% every hour, and thats when i'm simultaneously talking on the phone and playing games on it too (and have background syncing on through wifi). I don't really have many widgets up, only 3 (Minimalistic Text, Widgetsoid, and Last Call). If i'm not talking on the phone and just playing games or using apps though, the battery usage is at about 10% every hour and 30 mins.

I don't think this kind of battery drainage for Android phones is unusual, because i've had the HTC Incredible before and that little thing was a real battery muncher. I remember days when i barely got 5 hours out of it cause it only had a 1350 mah battery =/ Overall i am pretty content with my battery life on Atrix. I always carry an extra USB cable with me just incase i go below 20%, and so should you too if you are having short battery life issues =P
[Atrix 4G General] minooch:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12572954&postcount=16
[Atrix 4G General] dcarpenter85:
I got 36 hours on my initial greyblur install with ~5 hours screen time. You have your phone set up incorrectly if you are getting poor battery life.
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
Can you please give us some valuable input on how your phone is set up then?
[Atrix 4G General] dcarpenter85:
Battery mode: Performance

Brightness: Auto

Screen time out: 30s

Gmail is the only app that I let push

Official facebook and Twitter apps refresh interval: Never (manual)

Fancy Widget: Manual refresh of weather

Wallpaper: Avoid live wallpapers like the plague

Wifi: Never sleep when plugged in

GPS: Only on if I need it, otherwise off

Bluetooth: I don't use this so it's always off

If you are getting poor battery life you are probably wasting a ton of battery by not controlling background application activity or using a poor app that goes rogue (Be weary of Barcode Scanner, it tends to go rogue sometimes).

Also I don't use any Motoblur account integration, not sure if that matters but it's worth noting. I have Facebook Twitter and Gmail accounts but they are not tied to blur.
[Atrix 4G General] squarejp:
Ok I've figured out a possible way to save battery life. I still have my sync on but I've specifically remove the News RSS feed widgets in Motoblur. I've also uninstall Firefox and so far I can reach around 1% drops for 30mins. I have moderate use over 12 hrs including 8 hrs of sleeping, played some Youtube videos, checked email and made couple of calls is has 50% juice now.

Before it was 10% an hr.
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
How much screen time..?
[Atrix 4G General] pathofthehero:
yeah, you really gotta give us more information on what version are you running (Grey, Ginger, etc)

So far 9 hours and i'm at 70% at Idle/light use
[Atrix 4G General] thetripelwide:
Mid level use and the battery lasts the day. Some of the live wallpapers can cause unusual battery drain
[Atrix 4G General] blindguyinanorgy:
I recently did a factory reset and didn't install but the few app I purchased. Gmail syncs 2 accounts all day.

Right now I have 32% display usage and 50% battery left.

Sent from the bowels of hell...
[Atrix 4G General] squarejp:
I have the screen on for more than 45 minutes with WiFi and bluetooth turned on.
[Atrix 4G General] chinxos203:
mine is fine
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
Thank you for the valuable input!
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
That explains it.. :-)
[Atrix 4G General] chinxos203:
No problem. So many battery threads that's all. There is a lot running on the phone wethere u know it or not. I could have so many reponses for each issue in this thread however it really comes down to third party apps you have installed and all of the phone settings. Without knowing exactly what is on the phone and what each app is using for reources its hard to give any real advise in fixing it. Or it could just be a bad battery.

Start using the task manager to auto kill third party apps u don't always acccess right away. Make sure wheen u install an app check its settings for battery use and/ or server syncing and adjust accordingly.

I guess I would be curious to see the memory from the applications/ running services and maybe a count of how many active running apps from task manager.
[Atrix 4G General] chinxos203:
o and also try a darker color wallpaper
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
That's only for OLED based displays.

Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™
[Atrix 4G General] V DidDy 210:
has anyone noticed if the charger makes a difference?

I've been using my samsung charger, but I could start using my moto one.

does it matter?
[Atrix 4G General] apolloms:
I set up SetCpu profiles and ran the Battery Calibrator app....I'm now on 36 hours off the charger at 30% remaining....
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
What kind of profiles do you have & how many hrs screen time did you get..?
[Atrix 4G General] apolloms:
3 hrs 35 min display.

for set cpu i did:

charging 1000

Battery < 60% 750

Battery < 30% 312

Screen Off 312

i'd say i have probably 8 hours in airplane mode streaming sirius on wifi. some angry birds, email is on push, checking engadget occasionally and probably 200 texts or so
[Optimus One, P500, V General] thha2:
Ok I feel kinda stupid and I'm hoping y'all call help me..

So,I got the LG Optimus V (Amazing Phone) and I want to root it. I've looked up many ways on the internet. Superoneclick just said "Waiting for device". I tried Z4 Root app. But that was working then I got a black screen on both temp root and permanent root. So I gave up on it. Then my friend told me that rooted phones could download Apps from 4Shared and install them without paying. I tried this,and it works. I have about 10apps I got this way and they all work perfectly. I've download apps that check your root status, and all those apps say my phone is not rooted at all.

So my question. How can I download apps this way without a rooted phone? How do I root my Optimus properly? Is there such a thing as a semi- or a half-rooted phone?

I really hope yu can help me.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] nikeman513:
Link

There are different ways to root, but from my experience the best ROM available, and with the most simple step-by-step instructions for doing so is aospcMod. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=962862

--There is a link that says READ ME in big red letters, and it will show you everything you need to know. If somethings not working right it will be you, not the steps provided. I know this because I used it to root my phone for the first time. Hope this helps, and good luck.
[Thunderbolt General] inzandity:
http://twitter.com/#!/VerizonWireless/status/59968063570837504

Anybody see a press release for this on where it is coming? I would love to see it in Springfield, MA! I doubt it though as I haven't seen it come on for "testing" as some other cities have.
[Thunderbolt General] Stein357:
Would love for Portland, OR to be one of them.
[Thunderbolt General] madzozs:
http://news.vzw.com/news/2011/04/pr2011-04-18.html
[Thunderbolt General] inzandity:
Hardly a "mess of new cities and towns". A mess to me would be 10-15+. Not 5...back to waiting I guess.
[Thunderbolt General] tbcpn:
I've seen a couple of postings that folks around here (Portland) have had 4G on and off over the past couple weeks. Was in a VZW corporate store (Bridgeport) the other day and the tech person noted that it had been on and off lately--she assumed for testing.

It's been on at PDX for sometime, as I'm sure you know. I hope the signal spreads to SW of the city where I am.
[Thunderbolt General] sc4fpse:
I don't think that's it. Expect to see the vast majority of cities from the initial update to the LTE coverage list (not this most recent one) receive their connectivity on Thursday. And expect a lot more of those mini-press releases. They'll probably do one for each major area that gets 4G LTE turned on.

edit: Like I said, they've already got two more tweets up with areas that are getting it, plus two more mini-press releases. :)
[Thunderbolt General] inzandity:
Yeah I saw that...i keep refreshing my twitter feed waiting for MA to show
[Thunderbolt General] xgonzox:
Come to Utah 4g
[Thunderbolt General] sc4fpse:
Flint, MI, my home town, is one of the cities on that initial list I referred to. I have a feeling they'll light it up on Thursday, which is the same day I'm heading home for Easter. I'm gonna have to come up with some money for a Thunderbolt quick, haha.

I'm really curious to see what kind of LTE signal strength I get at my home, though. Currently, I get an average of 1 bar of signal strength on 3G. In one corner of my upstairs bedroom, 2 bars. Downstairs there are dead zones everywhere (including for voice. Mom still doesn't understand that she needs to stay in one place when she calls me on her cell phone from home, or else I can't hear her!). My understanding is that 4G LTE has a bit more range to it than 3G, and that you'll still get decent transfer rates when you have low signal strength due to the different way LTE sends data packets. I really hope I can finally get some decent data speeds at my house now.
[Thunderbolt General] ben7337:
I wonder what the I-78 corridor is, does that mean they are covering the highway between the 3 cities? Because I thought they were covering the whole area of the cities so it would be one big blob. The only other meaning I can infer is that they plan to cover I-78 for the extra 15-20 miles or so from easton to where their NYC coverage runs out. I guess we'll see exactly what happens on the 21st, I can't wait.
[Thunderbolt General] astang99:
Come on austin, TX....
[Thunderbolt General] feedhead:
They have been tweeting each new press release.

http://twitter.com/#!/VerizonWireless

Come on Sioux Falls
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
No Tucson?

Lame.
[Thunderbolt General] surreaL1st:
Man, talk about lame...

Columbia and Hilton Head get it, but I'm in Charleston :(
[Thunderbolt General] lordv8r:
They dont have any sites in virginia. Northern va is part of the dc area and bristol is part of the bristol tenn area. So they have a very long freaking way to go here.
[Thunderbolt General] lp4261:
for real. I am in southern utah. At least I get 4g when I go to vegas.
[Thunderbolt General] TheDanimal:
Still no Little Rock, W.T.F.
[Thunderbolt General] cpimpjuice2060:
Test in MOBILE, AL. "_BLAZING FAST_"

Test Date: Apr 18, 2011 1:42:46 pm

Connection Type: Cell

Download: 9.33 Mbps

Upload: 34.17 Mbps

Ping: 137 ms

A detailed image for this result can be found here:

http://www.speedtest.net/android/46393379.png
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyray1990:
Pshh Columbia and Hilton Head who in the heck lives in Hilton Head i figured Greenville SC would get it before Columbia because Greenville is a major Market area
[Thunderbolt General] psufan5:
lol been on in the Lehigh Valley for 3 weeks now. Funny :p
[Thunderbolt General] dirtyfingers:
http://blog.ookla.com/2011/04/05/android-speedtest-net-mobile-beta/

Try this new beta for the speed test app. Your results are not at all accurate, your upload speed will never be higher than your download.
[Thunderbolt General] chas1723:
Three days until it reaches my area:)
[Thunderbolt General] psufan5:
Allentown Bethlehem and Easton are already turned on. I guess this means the other areas?
[Thunderbolt General] KidJoe:
Well, when visiting my Mom (near Dorney Park, I grew up about a mile west of Whitehall HS), I've had good LTE coverage.

On April 9, I took a Beiber Buss from Wescosville to NYC for the day/night so I can say as far as the "I-78 corridor" is concerned, I78 east from RT222, towards NJ, once we pasted Lehigh Street exits and start going over "south mountain" (like where 309 splits off to Center Valley) it went back to 3G and 1X. The TB fluctuated a lot between 3G and 4G around the RT412/Hellertown exit... then was pretty much 3G the rest of the way to NYC. Once we were close to NYC, 4G again.

RT22 from the Turn Pike to the Fullerton Ave exit was also solid.
[Thunderbolt General] ben7337:
So you saw 4G on 78 around where 78 and 412 meet, but nothing east of there, even in the area where 78 is in easton which is one of the covered cities? Weird, also it looks like you took 22 instead of 78 to head to NYC, you should have hit 4G on 22 well before hitting the turnpike, according to verizon you would have seen it before 22 meets 287 in NJ. This is very disheartening for me, but I guess we'll see what verizon does on the 21st, I assume they plan to have maps updated then to cover the cities they tweeted about.
[Thunderbolt General] KidJoe:
actually... RT22 to Fullerton ave was a different trip than to NYC...

I'm Living in DE, so I took I495 to I476/PA TPK up... got off at A-Town, and took 309 south to 222 exit then a couple miles to Mom's place.

Bieber Bus trip to NYC was on April 9, left from Wescosville/RT222/309/I78 terminal (the old Charcol Drive inn) to NYC via I78, stopping at Hellertown to pickup more people. From about the 309/Center valley split, coverage was mixed. Stopping at Hellertown to pick up more people (park and ride behind the Wendy's just off the exit), I also saw 3 and 4G. I don't recall seeing 4G much past there, but I'll admit I stopped looking around the PA/NJ line and put the phone away to conserve battery so I don't know at exactly what point it picked up 4G again as I didn't take my phone back out until just we saw Newark Airport. And my battery was dead on the way home so I couldn't watch coverage.

This past weekend, Sunday we went to church at St. E's Fullerton Ave and RT22. So that was I78/309 to RT22 east to Fullerton Ave.

We did then go out RT22 to Holy Savior cemetery off RT191/Nazareth Pike, but I really wasn't paying attention to my phone... It was my first trip back since we buried my Dad in Dec, so I was a little emotional to say the least.

RT22 to Cedar Crest Blvd, and Hamilton Street to Yocco's West was also good 4G coverage.

On a side note... sitting at Mom's these are the speed tests done via my TB and visiting the speedtest.net site (with "mobile view" disabled)
[Thunderbolt General] PapaDroid:
I can confirm better signal strength with 4G. In my office I've always gotten zero bars but my 4G works all day long. I still can't receive or make any phone calls from work still but it I'm excited for the day that we will be able to use LTE for phone calls.
[Thunderbolt General] sc4fpse:
Define "works all day long." "Works all day long," as in it takes an hour to load anything but you can load it, or as in "it works impressively, and with '4G' speeds"? :)
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
I just got an email from Verizon saying they are improving the coverage in my area but it doesn't give any details and my area is not in the 'coming soon' section of the 4g lte map..
[Thunderbolt General] rmoffitt321:
I'm hoping that Salt Lake has a good chance. About a month ago they toggled the 4g on a Sunday afternoon but when I woke up on Monday it was gone again. I know they say it is at the airport but I noticed that big chunks of downtown Salt Lake has some 4g as well. Hopefull this is just a sign of them getting ready to turn the whole network on. Since Salt Lake is a State Capital I'm thinking we might have a good chance of being on that list.
[Thunderbolt General] Breezer23:
I have 4G at work with Verizon. Come suffer at Discover Card with me and you'll have it. It's right next to the Verizon Call Center and the Airport... pretty sure I'm the only one on it haha.
[Thunderbolt General] mike.s:
Woohoo! For all of us in "Location: The Boondocks," that's good to know.:rolleyes:
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/car...te-coverage-to-over-145-markets-by-years-end/
[Thunderbolt General] EgoDogg:
That's pretty much all of my surrounding cities except where I am (Scranton / Wilkes-Barre). That's balogna!
[Thunderbolt General] worm-:
Ridiculous that two thirds of south Carolina gets it and no Greenville

Sent from the Ole TB
[Thunderbolt General] teknixxx:
4G went live this morning in Columbia, SC!
[Thunderbolt General] ckochinsky125:
Yeah like I think they are going to have more than that because like you said that isnt "a mess" but who knows guess we will see come thursday.
[Thunderbolt General] lordv8r:
None of va has it :(
[Thunderbolt General] inzandity:
Yeah I have seen that one...thats how I know Springfield is getting it eventually. I just wanted to know if it was going to be this Thursday...I'm impatient :p:D
[Thunderbolt General] Incredibuyer:
Im in Ocean Isle Beach NC, 35 miles south of Wilmington NC and the 4G switch wad turned on today. I was in Wilmington yesterday and no coverage so I would have to assume that Wilmy has it....never thought OIB would be on the early coverage area. I go back to the Triad area of NC next Tuesday, which is on the list so I assume 4G will be on there as well. I also travel to Charleston WV often and they have had 4G since or before the day the TBolt was released. No worries here!
[Thunderbolt General] Str0ntium:
I spent a few months in Ocean Isle/Morehead City back in 2002. Miss that place!
[Thunderbolt General] sc4fpse:
Yeah, if those are all the new cities they are launching LTE in, then I agree, that's not a "mess," that's a disappointment. :(
[Thunderbolt General] topaz330:
hopefully central jersey gets better 4g love soon