yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
im not exactly sure, so i dont want to say, lol. but he was trying to make it so that we could take 5mV steps to increase/decrease voltage. but really, im unsure what he actually did. it should be very similar to 111111.

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it ran great for me too, no issues. but when i put my phone on the charger then checked a half hour later, it didnt feel like waking up. i guess it might have partied just a little too much the night before ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] anremi:
I don't have this probleme
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
great!

but to be honest, i like teuv best just were it is :)
[Nexus S Android Development] anremi:
Yes! But every cpu has its limits. When you adjust voltage, you can get the best from morfic's fabulous job!
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
Can we decrease and increase in 5s now

Alsobin nstools you can adjust into voltages
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
no. in 25mV steps only.
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
So what's with the ****edwith version lol
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
its like teuv-s22-111111, but it was ****ed with :p
[Nexus S Android Development] khartaras:
Morfic, I never quite understood why you don't make a kernel with a 1000MHz step, a 1100MHz step, a 1200MHz step, so on so forth.
[Nexus S Android Development] thedudejdog:
It doesn't agree with his math, just use liveoc ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] benrees21:
I'm on 11111c for a day now and it's got great battery life and is rock solid. Love it. Thanks Morfic.

Sent from my Nexus S on Morfic's TEUV Kernel and some help from Tapatalk!
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Just installed TEUV kernel over my SuperOSR ROM.

stock settings with Gov = Performance

im getting 2688 in Quandrant score.

any tips on improving the speed.
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
This teuv111111 is the same as TEUV-S22-05112011b.... only he added live oc and the possibility to UV.

I've been raving about battery on the 0511 kernel for a week but i think it slipped through the crack for most people.

Battery is awesome on this kernel ...I just can't believe it. Its like I have an extended battery for my nexus.

:)

I had bought 3 batteries to help in bad battery life and now I dont even need them. A good problem to have. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Which kernel did you use.

derkernel lists around 6

TEUV-NS-05102011 (0.88GHz with 220MHz bus/gpu,ExtraUnderVolted)

TUV-NS-05102011 (1.0GHz with stock (200MHz) bus/gpu,UnderVolted)

T12-NS-05102011 (1.2GHz with stock (200MHz) bus/gpu)

T13-NS-05102011 (1.3GHz with 216MHz bus/gpu)

T144-NS-05102011 (1.44GHz with 240MHz bus/gpu)

T1544-NS-05102011 (1.54GHz with 220MHz bus/gpu)
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
http://morfic.euroskank.com/simka/TEUV-S22-111111c.zip
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Is it stable ?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
well, its not a stable release, its still in the test kernel state. but.. i havent seen one bit of instability with it. its at least as stable as the teuv in the stable releases on derkernel.com
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
alright, ill give it a try.

Which are the best settings, i have seen that my phone cant take 1.3 Ghz+, it hangs with other kernels.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
this one doesnt go that high unless you oc yourself. its underclocked at 880mhz and undervolted with an overclocked bus/gpu of 220mhz. its great on battery and very speedy.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
I like your boot logo :D

Just installed it, ill test it out and see how it goes.

Will 1Ghz stock be released ?

Should lazy gov be used with this version or should it be kept ondemand ?

Regarding OC'ing, should i do it via NStools Live OC, and in what increments ?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
i like the bootlogo too :D

of this kernel no, this one is teuv. underclocked/undervolted by nature. tuv is the 1ghz version. thats up to morfic if he'll release tuv with live oc.

lazy is the default governer, its recommended. but i also use ondemand with a 15000 sampling rate and 98 up threshold. both are good.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
So ill have to wait for TUV version, alright no problem

Can you please explain as to what you meant by 15000 sampling rate and 98 up threshold ?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
in setcpu, the advanced tab..

taken from http://www.setcpu.com/#4
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Simms. You da' man
[Nexus S Android Development] Maximilian Mary:
I'm curious about dvsarm and dvsint. There are only 4 different dvsarms and 2 different dvsints in the def. If we set more than that many different values, are we just fooling ourselves?
[Nexus S Android Development] Serious_Beans:
Did you try certaindeath yet ?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
yes, i did. twice. it lived up to its name. ****edup rose from its ashes.
[Nexus S Android Development] Serious_Beans:
Hows ****edup compared to 1111c?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
its got better color(amoled)
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
My haptic feedback....or the motor that vibrates the phone broke tonight. :/ I have to have tactile feedback.
[Nexus S Android Development] benrees21:
Something weird happened in the night. I had 36% battery left before I went to bed, put it in aeroplane mode and when I woke up I had 39% battery lol. How is that possible?

Sent from my Nexus S on Morfic's TEUV Kernel and some help from Tapatalk!
[Nexus S Android Development] skinner12:
Hi, I have sometimes reboot with latest 1111c with deep idle on; plus if I listen to music, my NS when goes to deep idle starts to loop and I have to remove battery.

But if I disable deep idle, all works well.

Maybe is there something error with my volt setting?
[Nexus S Android Development] roshga:
111111 c version bug:

Can't listen to music with bluetooth. Choppy like hell

Franco fixed it in his kernel btw.
[Nexus S Android Development] Salvatore11:
Does the color is more yellow than before or its just me ? (****edwith)
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
oops, i did it again..

listening to music for 1.5 hours on the train on my way to work this morning, 4% battery loss. teuv-****edwith 880/100 lazy, deep idle enabled, max_freq disabled. there are no cpu time in state available because its not enabled in the kernel..
[Nexus S Android Development] tmello56:
Maybe a random reboot while you were sleeping? I know sometimes a weird reboot can screw with the battery stats.
[Nexus S Android Development] coloxim:
But fly mode..

Inviato dal mio Nexus S usando Tapatalk
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
yes. airplane mode. no need for the radio to be on in the subway ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] benrees21:
That's exactly what I thought so I checked the uptime and it has not rebooted, should of mentioned that. I have now switched to ****edwith and will see tomorrow morning if the same thing happens.

Sent from my Nexus S on Morfic's TEUV Kernel and some help from Tapatalk!
[Nexus S Android Development] skinner12:
What are your custom arm and int voltage?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
nothing was changed, didnt touch live oc and didnt change any voltages.
[Nexus S Android Development] skinner12:
Ok, I'll try like yours cause I have reboot and I cant listen to music if deep idle is enable..
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
im on teuv-s22-****edup.zip
[Nexus S Android Development] Salvatore11:
Is the deep idle automatic enabled or I need to enable it somehow ?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
open the stock camera then close it to enable deep idle.
[Nexus S Android Development] skinner12:
Yeah, I'm trying that too.. I guess there's problem with OC option: if I test 105%, for example, I get reboot barely screen goes off.. instead setted on 100% all goes quietly...
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Ezekeel fixed it by reverting to using RTC_TICK as wake up source.

Yes it fixes bt audio, but reduces the avg time in deep idle.

So I'm not giving it up just yet.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Doubt it, no such file...

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] skinner12:
teuv-s22-****edwith :p
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
lmao! yea, that one. i guess im the one thats ****edup.zip :p
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Truer words were never spoken.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
I'm on zntuev and so far so good I put 900 MHz on 850 and all the int voltages are down by 25mv.. been on all day ,no problems
[Nexus S Android Development] roshga:
maybe there's a way to set TRC_TICK as a wake up source on TOP=ON only, that way bt audio will be able, and most of the time use, which is with TOP=OFF, avg time in deep-idle won't get hurt.

As for headphones music play non of us have a problem with it, that means on TOP=OFF RTC_TICK can be ignored, the only time it affect the use is with TOP=ON, only guessing it affects also BT calls and GPS performance.

Is it even possible to set different wake up sources on TOP=ON/OFF?
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Just woke up to find that the phone had SOD'ed at night.

I was using TEUV-S22-111111c
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
That's what I wanted to look at, discouraging that Ezekeel hasn't done that yet.

But I like to waste my time on "probably not gonna work" if the idea behind it is good.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
:eek:

try teuv-****edwith

btw, did you lower you voltages? because that could bring on the SoD.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
nope, i did not tinker with the voltages.

Could it be the ROM ? I was using SuperOSR.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
its always possible. i wont say that it is, or that it isnt. but i did have sod with c, just because i lowered the voltage at the 100mhz level. but, no sod with ****edwith.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
The filename of the kernel, gives me a twitch in the eye. Is it safe ?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
lmao!

its like naming a brand new happy-go-lucky puppy "Killer". just dont flash CertainDeath.zip ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
I flashed Pure Bionix v1.6. Lets see how it goes.

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can i have the download link for teuv-****edwith ?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
TEUV-S22-****EDWITH.ZIP
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Thanks, going to give it a go with Bionix.

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So far so good.

Which custom launcher would work best with this kernel ?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
i think that theres no one correct answer for that, its a personal choice. i use adw ex.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Or use launcher pro plus.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Noticed that Launcher pro is a bit faster than ADW
[Nexus S Android Development] melvinchng:
My battery drop 1% in 6.5hours! OMG! The battery life is super great on 11 November KANG.

Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
[Nexus S Android Development] Salvatore11:
Hey simms I just checked cpuspy and it shows 100% deep sleep on the ****edwith , any ideas ?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
yea, morfic needs to fix it. same as pressing "time in state" in setcpu, itll force close if you press it. no biggie though. looking at all the battery juice that i still have left over is enough stats for me.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Stop stat wanking and start using your phones again.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
But those stats are in Airplane modes, correct ?
[Nexus S Android Development] benrees21:
Lost 2% battery during the whole night.

Sent from my Nexus S on Morfic's TEUV Kernel and some help from Tapatalk!
[Nexus S Android Development] skinner12:
Lost 25% in the night..
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
That is bad ! or is it :rolleyes:
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
I lost 20% last night also

I also can't stop Facebook upload from starting along with rom manager ..
[Nexus S Android Development] sinik420:
Delete rom manager lol
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
Ok but Facebook?
[Nexus S Android Development] sinik420:
Disable sync?
[Nexus S Android Development] melvinchng:
Freeze it. Use friendcaster

Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
Yea I disabled sync. For some reason it keeps opening upload manager ...strange
[Nexus S Android Development] sinik420:
Lets see, I have chuck Norris mode enabled, I had the same.problem with katana process, so I went through and enabled them redisabled them again and it worked
[Nexus S Android Development] melvinchng:
Facebook use browser to sync those stuff. That's why it is in running service.

Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
Is that using autostart program?
[Nexus S Android Development] melvinchng:
Autostarts still won't stop it.

Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
So is deleting the only way to get rid of it?
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Used to use ADW Ex. Then I forced myself to use GOLauncher EX and I never looked back. ADW would constantly redraw for the smallest change and it was sluggish. GOLauncher, while not being the fastest launcher (Zeam has to be the fastest) is one if not the smoothest I've tried. :)

This. flash flash flash flash idle idle idle zomg! I have the nicest brick with cellphone reception ever! :D
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
What's the best times people have got for battery life? In hours. My last overnight my phone lost 20% :-(
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
In theory I could do 70 hours with little usage. In practice I get like a day before someone releases a new kernel that I have to flash. :p
[Nexus S Android Development] Dr_Ownage:
can we disable and enable deep idle without having to reset my phone?

I know there is an option in NSTools but i wasnt sure if you actually had to reset the phone for it to apply...
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
It's a live settings, as soon as you change it, it gets switched. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Here is the battery life after 12 hours of use.

Is it good, the drop at the last hour or so is due to me browsing and listening to an audio
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
Yea seems good.. here's mine.. although i haven't used it loads. Has about 2 hours of display on
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Which battery info app is that taken from ?
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
Do you mean the percent ? Its battery indicator from the market
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
yes, its different from the builtin info.

Which app is that ?
[Nexus S Android Development] italia0101:
Battery indicator
[Nexus S Android Development] phone_user:
All Kernels need that for switching or updating kernels. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
+1 vote from me.
[Nexus S Android Development] roshga:
My support on that one :D

Btw as I use BT for both music and calls I've no problem being the tester of those modifications of your's/Ezekeel's.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Perfect Timing: http://goo.gl/Fzdow

no BT stutters thanks to RTC_TICK and the usual RTC_TICK free deep idle my kernels still use to date

needs long term testing to find any odd bugs we wouldn't find in a few minutes of testing

In the attached screenshot i wasn't testing audio playback, just turned BT on, when playing audio over my headset it was at 7ms
[Nexus S Android Development] roshga:
Having 30 minutes drive to collage tomorrow with an annoying classmate. Be sure you'll get a detailed description on any bug that made my way musicless.

Edit: Forgot to Thank you!

Edit2: Thank you :D
[Nexus S Android Development] albundy2010:
Downloading now. I use bt audio streaming in car. Will test it tonight.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ezekeel:
Actually the problem with BT was not the reason I reverted to including RTC TICK, but issues with waking up the device with the power button. I only learned yesterday that it also solved the problems with music playback using BT. Are there no wakeup problems with Trinity with RTC TICK not included? The problems were accompanied by an error output in the dmesg log about a 'key debounce'.
[Nexus S Android Development] roshga:
@Ezekeel

Waking up the device, Listening to music with headphones, long sleeps - all those work great with 111111c teuv, which is the last one I tried. the only problem that kept me away from it was the BT music being stutter.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
i didnt have any issues with wakeup.
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Morfic....will there be a teuv version to test with the fix for Bluetooth audio? Oncr you get time of course.

Btw, 111111c still running great. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
BT being unusable is the only thing that made me consider giving up RTC_TICK free deep idle.

Yes, there are the occasional 2 power button presses to wake up the Device.

As user feedback shows, it appears to not carry too much weight when compared to battery usage.

I'm just changing the mask based on top_on to cure the BT stutters.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
It's in simka right now.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] skinner12:
How is 1411? any news?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
http://morfic.euroskank.com/simka/TEUV-S22-141111.zip
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Ideally it is the same as 1111 but without stuttering BT.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] skinner12:
Ok, so I'm not gonna test it cause I don't use BT :o
[Nexus S Android Development] roshga:
aff.. first you let me test the 1.44 one, then im fixing it to be TEUV (120% live oc, 960 high freq, 120 low freq, voltage same as teuv) and after all that TEUV is out.

Cool :cool:

BTW!

ICS source is out! :D

Oh happy day!! MIUI with 4.0 + TEUV 3.0.1 kernel in a month ** Finger crossed **

EDIT: AMAZING colors! black is soo black! white is white! wow.. well done morfic!

Edit2: while on zn144 idle stats worked just fine, with long 2K-4K avg times at the 10 minutes I was on it, the Teuv1411 seems wrong...

It's either the stats or the actual deep idle not kicking in properly. First it took me like 10 times of turning screen off and on after few seconds till I had something other than 0ms on the deepidle stats, and then those 475ms just stayed there.. no change for 10 minutes of idling.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
I might look at the stats being broke.

But I probably wont as znteuv will take over the main roll anyway.

Just building from old source to buy me some time.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] roshga:
Don't worry about that.

Rebooted and stuff are working like they should.

Guessing I had a problem with NStools with setting things on/off bla bla bla..

anyways, first time im seeing Deep-idle time is bigger than normal idle time lol :D
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Sweet. Thanks for letting me know
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Is it an update to s22-fuc****with.zip ?
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
It actually is.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
It is undervolted just like fuc***with.zip, correct ?

What are the improvements over fuc****with.zip ?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
bluetooth works properly.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Alright, ill give it a go
[Nexus S Android Development] albundy2010:
Touchwake has a delay on tuev 1144 with deep idle on. About a second and half after touch before the screen comes back on. Bt is working and no problems waking device with power or volume rocker with deep idle on.

Sometimes I had to do multiple taps on screen for it wake with touchwake.

Tested with lazy + Max screen off and on demand. It only happens when deep idle is enabled.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
I Would need someone with long term deep idle usage experience to test how much is lost with RTC_TICK added back in at all times.

What you describe should all be due to lack of RTC_TICK as wakeup source.

going to do a full release of all -NS- flavors and with the added feedback i can better judge how the user experience is impacted.

If dsellers was willing to try a test kernel with RTC_TICK not being conditional, we should know the answer pretty soon.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
new Trinity kernels galore.. they are all updated :D http://www.derkernel.com/

no, its not ICS yet :-P
[Nexus S Android Development] phone_user:
Wow!

Voodoo, all Ezekeel MODs (except BLX)
[Nexus S Android Development] phone_user:
TUV-NS-141111 voltages are theses :

arm_volt

1000mhz: 1325 mV

800mhz: 1175 mV

400mhz: 1000 mV

200mhz: 875 mV

100mhz: 875 mV

int_volt

1000mhz: 1175 mV

800mhz: 1175 mV

400mhz: 1175 mV

200mhz: 1175 mV

100mhz: 950 mV

What are the recommended voltages for Live OC 110?
[Nexus S Android Development] melvinchng:
Hmm... my phone takes about 3 seconds to wake when I first turn on the screen after flash it. It is all good now.

Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
[Nexus S Android Development] roshga:
On kernel with RTC_TICK + max freq on:

At night when phone not being used: ~100-150ms avg

normal use during the day: ~60-100ms avg

playing music with screen off use: 7ms avg

On YOUR kernel without RTC_TICK + max freq on:

At night when phone not being used: ~6000-8000ms avg

normal use during the day: ~3000-5000ms avg

playing music with screen off use: 17ms avg

on your kernel so far I had no wakeup problems (min freq 100, voltage 850), no need to press twice to wake, no issues at all.

please. Do not add rtc_tick back in..!
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
I was certain of those numbers.

I am still very curious about the actual impact on battery life.

Thanks for the detailed report. :)

Those numbers are why i drag my feet on RTC_TICK
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
send me your phone and i will tell you
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
How are the recent kernels working out for stock rom users btw?
[Nexus S Android Development] phone_user:
OK! Each phone is different... :)
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Confirmed, sometimes it takes multiple taps to wake the screen up. Sometimes, i just press teh power button to bring it to wake as the screen tapping does not work quicker

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Is there a difference betweeen

TEUV-NS-14112011.zip vs TEUV-S22-141111.zip

Is it recommended to update to TEUV-NS-14112011.zip
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
I can test 1411 battery. :) whether its for the better or worst. Hopefully better.
[Nexus S Android Development] roshga:
7 hours of use, almost an hour of bt music, these are my stats:

Bluetooth has no problems.

Battery level: 72%

Avg top off: 2700ms

Top on: 6ms (music)

I was in a lab with no reception for more than an hour so that gave me a drop of 8%...

The lack of RTC_TICK is paying off real good! Amazing battery life :-)
[Nexus S Android Development] melvinchng:
Long press to wake the phone too... anyone tried to raise the voltage?

Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
[Nexus S Android Development] droidance:
Flashed the latest TEUV. Do I need to change the voltage or is it already pre-tweaked? Thanks! :D
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
The UV in TEUV stands for undervolt. The E probably for EXTREME :O!

First post, anyway.
[Nexus S Android Development] njnickols:
I might be just a little to new, but here is what i've noticed with the new kernel so far (miui 1.11., Nexus S4G, NS1411 Kernel). flashed this morning and about two hours in i have only lost 10% +/-. using texts, e-mail, twitter, the usual stuff.