yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
i suppouse EU HD2 has the same bug as tmobile users as got

if i try to force 2G mode, i have 40ma on normal consuption, after camera fix, it goes to 5ma.. i DON'T have that problem in 3G mode

1 month ago i try the camera fix, and i says that i haven't got that problem, i says it because i tryed it ALWAYS IN 3G MODE, NOT 2G..

i know it last day when a tmobile user says me that he have hight power consuption on 2G mode, than i tryed and, i see the same problem :mad:

i'm using HD2O 1.12 with NoDo version, and camera fix works on EU HD2 with radio 2.14

i suppouse we have the same consuption with ALL radio, i'm trying to re-upload 2.15 and 2.12

i'm testing

edit: it has the same hight consuption in 2G mode, so, it's a real bug.. i never ever see it because my phone is in 3G mode for a 90% of the day
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] huniak:
I can confirm your arguments, but problem is i think deeper...with som roms for example yukixda, also elminster I cant use baterry trick by camera autofocus...this hack on some roms not working. I need use this hack, because I´m 90% of all day in 2G mode, 3G is not available because operator...

Is also interest that with some another roms H2O, Pdamatejam is this hack function, even in 2G mode.

Today I unzip last beta v3 yuki xda data.zip and file part00.bin I replaced with the file part00.bin from Pdamatejams rom. Surprise, battery hack via camera autofocus miraculously works, of course, in 2G mode. I think that problem is in WP7 radio which some cookers used in their roms.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
yes, i sad it yesterday when i upload yuki rom.. maybe it depends on the "unloaded" camera program in ram.

With xbmod and hd2o camera fix works good, so, try one of those..
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] huniak:
I'm not a developer, but are you thinking that change WP7 radio (part00.bin) could have any impact on loading a camera to RAM?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
Read last update of first post here - use recomended part00.bin and everything will be fine. Tested.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] huniak:
Ok, I see...thanks
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
nope, yuki "unloads" camera app from his rom, don't know what it means but i suppouse he block auto loading camera app after boot.. he delete auto opening in background.. i suppouse
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
Drainage problem is not directly camera related - it is side effect on drainage fixing i think. So doesn't matter.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Moschino02:
my battery percentage has jumped from 75 to 100% after reboot? anyone else experience a rise ?

i intially completed the step and noticed current was -7 from -203 but battery life was still dropping rapidly from 100% to 75% in under 30mins just by going to the menus so rebooted and got 100% but current has also jumped to 108

running xbmod
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
it's normally, it's a "wp7" bug.. i suppouse it works at same mode in official windows phone 7 device, because OS read the Volts on battery, and, it "elaborate" a %, so, it can be different if you reboot, but, phone shuts down when battery is completely off
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] fillippe:
YukiXDA with 5.51T Radio Software on T8585.

Working great for me.

Thanks very much.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
on what phone? eu or t-mobile (512 o 1024 rom?)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] fillippe:
T8585 is 512Mb.

Mine is from sim free from Hong Kong.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Moschino02:
My battery current ranges from -100 to - 400 sometimes but I'm still charging the phone once a day since I tried this trick, I don't use the phone much most things like data WiFi etc are off but i think it sucks the life of the battery everytime i use the phone i.e send text bit of browsing through apps & internet, sync emails manually, plus making calls etc

How have people got there battery to last 2-3 days ? How do you work out'Ma' from minus battery current ie 250

thanks for any replies?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] gsm83:
GPS Bug

For me -5mAh stable with Yuki v4 ROM and camera trick on HD2 EU.

Battery drainage when enabling GPS (-71mAh, even if disabled). The only fix is rebooting....
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
-100 to -400 it is drainage in milliampers(mA)(when no minus so it is charge current when on charge), but it is active current not standby. If you will get -3-9 ma it is good standby. How to check standby read please first few posts on first page.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
-5 mA(not mAh) is a good standby. I don't have and never had problem with GPS on-off returns to good low satndby without reboot. I never used continuously Yuki's roms i use now HD2O or before used XBMOD. Who knows may be this is an answer....
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
Or your GPS receiver still running in background..... What did you use with GPS receiver?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] gsm83:
Even simply enabling GPS (Position) in Settings menu.....
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
my is always enabled. blue tooth on, data on(2g or 3g doen't matter), xbox off. standby always 3 to 7 ma. trick need to be done once if reboot.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
oh, so you'are using tmobile radio for wp7 in an EU hd2.. mmmm

i'd try it too
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
I don't think it is special tmobile radio it is just another version of 5.51. So it should work for any hd2. WP7 Radio was never officialy made for HD2(or tmous).
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
but the creator says it works on tmobile version.. so.. i suppouse it works better in tmobile version.. i have to try
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
I don't think he is "creator", he just extractor and publisher. And if it works with tmous it doesn't mean won't work(or bad work) with others;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
and he extracted it from what?:confused:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Moschino02:
Sorry mate are you saying -100 to -400 is bad or good drainage?? My standby current is now -5 this is because i have kept data off and 3g on (tip from another thread)

When no minus it is charge current when on charge? What do u mean? I don't mean to be rude.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
I think it was extracted from one of the first (may be test version)version of WP7 for TMOUS HD7 or somewhere else(october 2010 is date of 5.51 and 5.51T radios). To create this Radio from scratch need a lot of specific knowledge of WP7 and HD2 hardware. So if someone has this good knowledge we would have our main problems fixed already.

Code of 5.51 and 5.51T very different, so it was compiled from different source code - not just modified few bytes in code.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
Again minus shows battery is discharging - giving energy. No minus means plus - getting energy charging when you connect to charger. Clear? -100-400 it is what usualy you can see with actively working phone. standby should be -3-7 ma if everything is correct. You can get this standby with proper WP7 radio 5.51 and with video trick, all the time not only data off 3g on. I have everything on(data on, bluetooth on, location on wifi on or off doesn't matter) and always standby 3-7 ma.

If you turn your data on and standby is not 3-7 but 40-43 or higher trick doesn't work - you have probably 5.66 radio.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
so do you suppouse stock DFT 5.51 wasn't modified by Cotulla? so they extract the radio from the test build, and changes modded drivers to have a pure stability on wp7?

mmmm.. i'd wan't to try this 5.51T..
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
You can try it any way. It won't do anything bad. Worse you can get - It just may be unstable. But i am almost 100% sure it will work fine because we all use same hardware radio 2.12-2.15 so the base for WP7 radio is the same.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Moschino02:
Thanks mate makes sense now
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
i think it too but, why there is a bad power consuption in t-mobile version with the uncorrect software radio when it works on eu version if they has the same hardware radio, so they have the same chip with the same hardware antenna? :D

tmobile may changes antenna? :confused:

i'll try when i have a little time to re-upload the same rom.. i'm using hd20 1.14 and it works so good ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
Of course it is up to you -try or not try. It is just like experiments if have nothing to do:D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] m_mansour2:
hello,

please

if i remove the battery or i charge the phone

should i make this trick again or i make it once

thank you
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
nope, you have to do this trick everytime if you shut down the phone, it means you have to do the trick if you reboot windows
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] pakure:
unfortunately, even with yukixda's v4, and with/without camera trick, on eu hd2, i still get 3 to 9 ma standby, but the damn average consumption still is 2-3 % per hour...guess all cant be as lucky as you are..grrr!!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
You are talking about pure standby consumption or not? Try this - do trick(must) check real standby not touch phone for 10 -12 hours. The other thing can be your battery - already weak because of use doesn't give full possible capacity so you see in percents high drop.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
without?*:confused: would to god!

do you know litium battery decrese his quantity of mAh in hight temperature? i mean, litium battery 'lose performance' everyday, with or without using it, it happens because litium cells 'burns' with hight temperature, highter is this, highter and highter is the quantity of mAh you loose for a day

it's a normally effect of litium battery, in numbers

if you put a battery in the freezer at 0°C (the temperature with water became ice) battery at 100% load lose 6% of mAh for 1 year, so, if the battery was 1000 mAh, in that case it loses 60mAh, and it became a 9940 mAh

in the same situation, with 40°C (100° is the temperature witch water became vapor.. 36 is the human temperature in normally condiction (i teach that because not all peoples in this forum uses Celsius temperature)) battery loses 35% evey year.. so.. 1 year with battery at 40°C it looses 35%.. with our 1230mAh, we lose 430mAh.. so we will have 800mAh (-35% of performance)

thats a not standard value, but, it's normally

apple computer says you should change battery every 2 month if you want the pure long time performance

htc says you should change it every 6 month

if your battery has more than 1year, you might change it with new one.. maybe now you'r having a 600 mAh full charge battery, witch has 50% autonomy of the normally one ;)

it could be the issue of 3% of battery consuption in standby

how many hours can you do in browsing internet? because hd2 absorbs 400mA in wi-fi + browsing, it means it uses 400mAh every hour.. 1230/400 = 3

so.. with full battery you can do 3 hour in browsing mode, if you do it in 2- 1.5 hour.. you have an old battery :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] pakure:
You don't get it..iam just saying that in winmo and android ..in standby mode..my battery discharges at 1% per hr...but in wp7..it is 2-3%per hr in stand by mode..though the average consumption is 3 to 9 ma in all of them in standby. It has nothing to do with weak battery because iam back using winmo and SD android and as said..it is only 1% per hr drop
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
It is strange - my always shows about 0.7-0.8% per hour. I don't know what to tell:(
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] lihkin:
Jun 09

Tested HD20 1.14. Much better than Yuki's for me(TMOUS) - more stable, feels solid no stability problems at all. For the first time HD2O changed Radio to 5.66, so i had to change part00.bin back with 5.51T to have good standby - 3-7 ma in any mode 2G or 3G with the trick. HD2O 1.14 is the best ROM overall again! Overall best and battery life is amazing after radio changing!!!

I love this ROM as its perfect but only d battery life suck n u hav mentioned that u changed the radio if v can how can i change the radio to the 1 tht can give me best battery life. Also I want to know which is the best radio. The version that i had use b4 of d same chef 1.04 had a better battery life
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
HD2O used wrong WP7 radio in1.14. You will need to reflash whole ROM to change radio.

Go here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1111613

Take 5.51T...... file unzip rename to part00.bin if not this name.

Replace part00.bin file with this 5.5T part00.bin in DATA.zip of your favorite ROM.

Flash it as normal and just check in setup about phone that you have 5.51T radio.

Do camera trick and you are OK.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] lihkin:
Tried doing the above trick but that result in following error

Error Description: send partition data failed

Info: .\RSPL\RSPL.cpp (1283)

Error Description: locate partition file failed

Info: .\RSPL\RSPL.cpp (1033)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
Yes it happend to me once - don't know why. Just unzip DATA.zip again delete part00.bin, put 5.51T part00.bin again and zip it again and try again. I did change of radio tens of times with different radios - no problem.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] knacko:
Hi,

sorry, I have two questions:

How do I measure my Battery consumption?

Do I still need to make this trick (camera, back to main) in the new roms e.g. V1.10 Blackseven?

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
How to measure - please read first few posts on first page.

Yes you need it with any ROM, but it will work on 5.51 WP7 radio only.

I don't know what is used in this ROM. to check you can go to setup about phone details.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] knacko:
Hi,

okay, I installed HTC Test tool v1.20 from the link.

Now I have battery current of -272 (period 10s).

Does it mean a loss of 27.2 ma per second?

Yeah, radio 5.51 is included in this blackseven rom.

Will try it tomorrow.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] joyqing:
It works with my hd2 Yuki's V4 !!

3~5ma standby.

see screenshot pls:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] lihkin:
Thanx i cud change the radio successfully thank u so much ll let u knw the battery life just did it few minutes back n applied the camera trick.

@ zcdg

If u can also tell me how to change the mapping for headset button it would be veryy useful as the one in the rom is not according 2 my need i want the headset button functionality the same way as it is in WinMo 6.5 by any mean u can help please let me knw thnx in advance
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] pablojl:
good morning

Excellent work done, 100% Reverse engineering.

I am installing v5 rom Yuki Tmous HD2. It is necessary to replace radio 5.51T. and implement trick or not?

thank you very much
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
V5 has 5.51 radio - no need to change radio. If your phone is TMOUS you may change to 5.51T if you want, but i think they work same(5.51 and 5.51T). And of course if you want good standby in all modes you need trick. Basicaly all ROMs need it - even MANGO if you want to have good life in all modes of data 2g or 3g.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] KrisHilbun:
Thanks!

Thank you worked perfectly on

[ROM] WP7 7592 Green Mango with market place
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] holdenzuck:
Hd2 with nodo, radio 2.15, data on 3g on, everything else off, after restart got -455

went to camera, switch to video waited for focus....

Went to home screen, then battery tool

put phone to sleep.... Waited 20secs

current -7 tried, phone to sleep again, wait to 20 secs or so current -5

seems to work, now to see it last....

Cheers guys!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Harvard:
Where did you find the 5.51 Radio?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
WP7 uses two sort of radios - one is hardware type usualy numbers from 2.10.50.xx to 2.15.50.xx. And the other radio is WP7 radio(say software) numbers from 5.51.xxxxx to 5.66.xxxx.

5.51(or others with numbers from 5.51-5.66) is radio included in WP7 ROM and installed automaticaly with WP7. In is part00.bin in data.zip file of WP7 installation.

Both types will be present in your phone after WP7 installation.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] caiteha:
does it work for mango?:)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] bearthang:
I don't need this trick on Mango because it's already good battery
[Streak 5 General] watyo:
I want to know if there is any security risks having the phone rooted. Or open doors for potential exploits?

I have Factory Unlock (US version) with

Android 2.2.2 (stocked)

Baseband GAUS1A134700-US

KERNEL 2.6.32.9-perf

Build 15274

Is this right files for my phone -->>>>

Android Version 2.2.2

baseband : GAUSB1A34500-US

KERNEL version : 2.6.32.9-perf

OEM : GAUSB1A134500

Build : 15380

1. Then copy over the file Superuser.zip Attachment 545097 (http://xdaforums.com/atta...hmentid=545097) into

SD card. This is the Superuser app

2. Turn off your phone and flash to fastboot menu

3. unzip streakmod-recovery Attachment 545093 (http://xdaforums.com/atta...hmentid=545093) to you computer

4. flash recover.img >> fastboot -i 0x413c flash recovery recovery-SU.img (or whatever you renamed the recovery file to)

5. reboot >> fastboot -i 0x413c reboot

6. go to recovery mode (volume rocker up+down+power button key)

7.select install ZIP from sdcard

8.select choose zip from sdcard

9.select superuser.zip file you downloaded earlier, and apply it

10.select yes - install superuser.zip

11.confirm it says "Install from sdcard complete"

12.select go back

13.select reboot

14.done!

*** this is not my work. I simply copy & pasted from another XDA forum***

Please ignore this if this is not a right place to ask this question --

some stuffs i paid to have and some i don't really want to pay.

Any trusted forums for me to get some apps or games? because of the virus roaming around, i don't want to download random from google.

thanks
[Nexus S Accessories] jlopez1286:
Not sure if this has been posted before, but has anyone tried the Case mate for the Ns??? just wanted to get thoughts about it...
[Nexus S Accessories] reflux:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=964659&page=2

in the future, please use the search function.
[Nexus S Accessories] zephiK:
There's a first look video of the case on the forum as well.
[Nexus S Accessories] themapleboy:
i just bought it, it's not the worst not the best. Functional but over priced.
[Nexus S Accessories] zephiK:
care to elaborate? I've been using mines and i love it. the side buttons are so easy to press compared the NS without a case
[Nexus S Accessories] mariosergio2112:
i dont like to use case.
[Nexus S Accessories] themapleboy:
Ever try to take it off? my screen protector didn't fit the screen properly, and i would prefer the price was -10 from best buy ($40). But all in all a decent case and i'm glad i bought it. Oh and if the front bumper was a little taller to protect the screen from a drop (or one of those glass protectors). lots of little things.
[Nexus S Accessories] zephiK:
Yeah, I'll agree its difficult to take off. But honestly, if you're using a case.. you shouldn't be taking it off consistently. It should just be once in a blue moon. When I'm comparing the way to take this case off to a Otterbox Defender, this is easier. But at least its not too LOOSE where it would fall out.

I don't use screen protectors, so I don't know. You paid $40 for it? I paid $35, there was also a coupon for a % off that would bump it down to $28 or so.

The front bumper is tall enough as it is. The screen wont touch with what its being faced on.

In the end:

+ Better grip

+ Easier to press side buttons

Worth it IMO.
[Nexus S Accessories] FoCsU:
has anyone tried the pop case in the I9023? will it fit inside?
[Thunderbolt General] johnh123:
From a battery perspective, should I use wifi? Most of the time i'm at home or at work where I have wifi. I also have good lte coverage at both. Speed aside, will I save battery by not using wifi or not?
[Thunderbolt General] bilbobrian:
You'll definitely save battery by using wifi when you can connect. I love the speeds over lte, but it is definitely a hog...:)
[Thunderbolt General] sylund:
i also had boost of battery using WIFI

Using unlimited data plan makes me to consider using 4g, but I found that Wifi consumes much less battery.
[Thunderbolt General] WeaselWeaz:
Use wifi. The battery savings are huge.
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
yes i cant stress enough, wifi saves enormous amounts of battery so use it when ever possible. the difference is like night and day.
[Thunderbolt General] movielover76:
Compared to 3G

I've been leaving my wifi off since I have unlimited data and the 3G is pretty fast in my area, no 4G yet.

I've had pretty good battery life lately using only 3G, I'll have to do a few tests and see which one and I'm a fairly heavy user I'm approaching 4GB this month and none of that is tethering
[Thunderbolt General] movielover76:
3G or Wifi

Tested watching a streaming video of 22 mins

on 3G I lost 13%

on wifi I lost 8%

Wifi wins, of course standby is probably different, if 3G vs wifi loses this badly I'd have to imagine LTE vs Wifi is a slaughter battery wise
[Thunderbolt General] SteveDusa:
Actually I found something interesting...

For some reason, even when I am home using Wifi, the battery drains faster than I thought. Where I live is like a strange signal spot. If I turn off my WiFi I can see my TBolt constantly switching between LTE and 3G, sometimes it stucks on 1xRTT for a while then goes right back to switching between connections. If I am at work (downtown LA) where the LTE is pretty well covered, I still use WiFi at the office, the battery BARELY drain at ALL.

My theory is that even when WiFi is active, the phone somehow STILL does the LTE/EvDO switching on the background does draining the battery.

If somehow the devs or VZW can tell the phone to STICK to EvDO/1xRTT instead of going back and forth with the LTE while WiFi data is on, it'll solve the problem.

Also just FYI, I have the latest radio and BMAF 1.5 remixed.
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
pretty much correct. at least on the gsm side, when i connect to wifi at home, i can no longer see if the phone is on 3G or EDGE. but it definitely switches back and forth to those networks, while staying on wifi, you just dont see the icon switching, but its definitely happening. i dont see why cdma and 1x would be any different.
[Thunderbolt General] EEdaesung:
if this is the case then why don't you just turn data off when you are on wifi.

^_^_^'s tbolt
[Thunderbolt General] SteveDusa:
You are absolutly right! How come I never thought of that. Will do that when I get home tonight.

Thanks for the tip!
[Thunderbolt General] bilbobrian:
Better yet get juice defender and automate it . Its very good app. Right now it says I'm almost adding fifty percent on to my battery.
[Thunderbolt General] Ecomaniac:
I seem to be bucking the trend here, but LTE is working better for me than wifi. I usually have a good signal, so that's part of it.

The other part is that my wifi may be eating more juice than normal because the TB and my router may not be playing nice together. Ever since I added the TB to the network, I've had to reboot the router every coupla days. Before the TB, it was solid weeks on end.
[Thunderbolt General] shovelheadhd:
Has anyone who is still having trouble on with batter on wifi set their wifi sleep policy to "Never" sleep? Mine is set to this and if I am home most of the day I will lose very little battery through out the day.

I believe by default the wifi is set to turn off after a period of time or when the screen is off so during this time I believe you are actually reverting back to using the vzw network. To turn wifi to always on go to settings>wireless>wifi settings>hit menu>advanced. The sleep policy is at the top, change sleep policy to never. This my reduce battery while not connected to wifi so I always use the power control widget to turn my wifi off completely while I am away from the house.