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[Thunderbolt General] miketoasty:
Get it. Or not. Its your call and you already know what you want, most likely.

Personally I wouldn't trade my TB for anything. I hate apples overcontrol and 3d is one of the dumbest marketing gimmicks for a phone I have seen in a long time, just saying.
[Thunderbolt General] Morkai Almandragon:
I would go TB before Iphone 4 twice on Sunday, but I would also grab the extended battery while there:)
[Thunderbolt General] nerozehl:
I don't recommend the extra battery thing. Wait till you see how much of a ***** it is to open the battery cover. I've only opened it twice (once to put the SIM/battery in when I first got it, and once a few days ago because I had to do a battery pull). Everytime I open it I feel like I'm going to break the damn thing!
[Thunderbolt General] what25:
I got a TB, and so far I like it a lot. The only thing I have against it is the battery life (but I have got it down to a manageable level). So if you are away from the charger a lot, grab a spare.

And plus, you can still videochat with the TB. I'm sure that there will be a solution for iphone to TB videochatting out there.

The 4G is wicked fast, to the point I feel like slowing down if I have to get on wifi. Plus, since VZ is not charging premium for 4G access unlike another carrier, and not to mention locking into unlimited data before it goes away some day, these 2 factors convinced me to jump in.

All in all, I recommend.
[Thunderbolt General] michaelkahl:
That sucks, I've considered the inductive charging back but that would rule out the Ballistic HC case.
[Thunderbolt General] pmdied:
A few good options; root it and put a good Rom/kernel and/or get the extended battery. I've done both.
[Thunderbolt General] michaelkahl:
My plan is to stop by BB Mobile during my lunch hour. If they won't match VZW's off-contract price then I'll go across the street to VZW. I just figure I should try to get the RWZ points on top of my bank points :D
[Thunderbolt General] JoseGutierrez:
To video chat between a TB and an iPhone 4 OTA just use Skype.
[Thunderbolt General] michaelkahl:
I'm waiting for Skype to release their fix before installing it. The wife and her sister currently use Skype, just not on her D2. They use their PC's, but now they'll have another option.

Thanks for the tip.
[Thunderbolt General] JoseGutierrez:
Yes, the current security flaw is huge. Althought its not even an official release.
[Thunderbolt General] michaelkahl:
True, and I noticed that I've only got 40 post (with this post). I'm thankful nobody thought I was a troll lol.

I do love this forum, I just try to post when I have something to contribute.
[Thunderbolt General] URPREY:
Good choice. I'm going to switch my wife from an iPhone 4. Couldn't be happier with my TB.
[Thunderbolt General] lessbuttonpressed:
I like my TB, wouldn't trade it in and I'm like some people I hate Apple. That does not go to say cause I'm an Android user. TB is my first smart phone, ever.

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[Thunderbolt General] Cadillac Johnson:
Go for it, you'll love the phone.

I have no regrets, even more so since neither Moto or VZW have squashed the rumors of the Bionic being scrapped, which was the device I was waiting for. Add a 1yr contract on top of that, and everything is roses.

As far as battery life.. I bought a spare release day thinking it would be a good idea. I havent used it once..

Keep your auto sync'ing to a minimum, display brightness mid level and dont run battery sucking apps and you're fine. I get through a day no problem with normal use, and I am running slightly OC'd at 1.2GHz.
[Thunderbolt General] HawkStream:
I have had mine for 26 hours… Here is my impression. Battery life is not bad at all if you turn 4G off which I did because I don’t even have it in my area. Everything else is great… except one of the worst kickstand designs ever designed.

First off it’s on the wrong side so you can’t have the kickstand out and have the USB cable plugged in at the same time. As stupid and terrible of a design that is it’s not that big of a deal as I really don’t see myself using the kickstand that much.

The real problem is that the kickstand covers the speaker!!!!

It’s just beyond me why they did this. You want to talk on speaker, or listen to music, or watch a YouTube video… whatever. Well the audio is going to be muffled compared to if you have the kickstand out always… no matter what. Even if you can hear fine you always know you could hear it better if the kickstand was out. So you will always be walking around holding your phone with the kickstand out for no reason other than just so the speaker won’t be covered.

Its design flaws like this that just drive me f’ing crazy!! I want to just remove the kickstand altogether. It’s something that is a hindrance like 95% of the time and might be a benefit maybe 5%.

Just drives me crazy

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Other than that its awesome.
[Thunderbolt General] slim6596:
After getting an email from VZ saying I was eligible for an upgrade at promo prices, I went to BB to get a Bolt and charge it to my BB card until I sold my Droid X. 15 minutes after the guy at BB Mobile told me I would have to buy at retail price or activate on a new line, I was walking out of Verizon with my new Bolt, charged to my Verizon account. Sold the X the day before my 14 day trial period with the Bolt was over. I was sweating that one out as I didn't really want to go back to my DX after getting to know the TBolt.

Long story even longer, be prepared to hear that you can't get the Bolt from BB at less than full retail. I'm not saying you can't, just be prepared.
[Thunderbolt General] michaelkahl:
You are correct and it went down in an ugly fashion. The store manager approved the price match...however the BB Mobile Manager refused to authorize the match. I let them know my disappointment, especially since the store manager approved it. I've worked retail, and if the store manager messed up they usually honored it for that occurrence.

I literally went across the street and purchased the phone from VZW at $130.00 cheaper. The sad thing, I was actually going to purchase an invisible shield and couple of other accessories at BB so it wasn't a total wash if they honored it.

I emailed customer service with the store number and let them know about my experience. It probably won't go anywhere but I really did think that it was messed up, especially since they took me through most of the transaction prior to notifying me.
[Thunderbolt General] michaelkahl:
BTW some beautiful numbers! Not the best, but I'm very happy!
[Thunderbolt General] nazo0:
ah man, i feel your pain.

i've been using android since the g1 with tmobile, switched to the nexus one, got the mytouch 4g then switched to verizon for the thundertold (preorder may i add)

Used the iPhone4 for Verizon for about 3 days and the TB came out so i returned the iphone and got the TB, couldn't use that phone for more than a week. Battery life sucks, phones too big, feels like a brick, and can CAN BE USED AS A DEADLY WEAPON! sad to say i'm using the iphone, again. Only cause this has higher value then any android phone @ verizon and I can get more $ out of it when I sell it.. I was hoping to pick up the Incredible2 but no lte? forget that. Good luck man, hard choice but the iphone isnt that bad..but i'd still take android os over iphone, just not the thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] michaelkahl:
So far I'm pretty happy. I haven't had a day with the battery, but we'll see. My wife has her eye on the iPhone and at the least I'd like to get 4g unlimited for 9.99 attached to my account (with my current discounted rate). I'm sure in a year I'll upgrade. It's a great phone and if battery is an issue I'll probably get an inductive back. Should be out soon.
[Thunderbolt General] ERIFNOMI:
Battery life should get better when HTC releases the update for the radios. I live in a non-LTE area but I leave LTE on. Battery is fine. It's not as good when I go to a city which has LTE. I think the problem is in the software so in time it will get better.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KeiichiAssassin:
Help guy :)

Few months ago i did alpharev with live cd and now i've decided to flash PB99IMG for oxygen.

I did go in bootloader and flashed file then gone to recovery and wipe all and tried to update to oxygen 2.0.3 but i got an error cannot opet sdcard/oxygen.zip (bad)

so after that i did nandroid backup with my old oxygen 2.0.1 and now i am stucked on alpha rev boot screen.

What to do now ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dnlgee:
Download Oxygen on your computer, take out your phone battery, re-insert it, reboot to recovery mode, mount the SDCard and external storage, transfer the newly downloaded version of Oxygen to SDCard.

Download the Oxygen HBOOT version and apply it via cmdprompt and fastboot.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KeiichiAssassin:
Thank you very much. You saved me :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hakimy:
hi guys

when I want to copy a text and share it from a website,I get 3 options (copy,quick look,share via) so when I click on "share via" an error shows saying "unable to shorten url".is there a solution to this?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hakimy:
I like to add that "share via " works with messages and friend stream but it doesn't work when I highlight from webpages! Plz help.
[Nook Color General] Jgrimoldy:
I bought a couple of these several months ago from DealExtreme.com to use for other USB powered devices.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-re...emergency-power-with-cell-phones-holder-44749

For kicks and giggles, I was curious how much current the things really put out. I connected to my CM7 NC with the NC USB cable and did a dmesg | grep CHARGER

To my surprise, even though DealExtreme claims that these output 1A, the NC said it was receiving 2A! (see attached photo of screen).

When I used a standard Micro-USB cable, the current dropped down to 500mA.

I haven't yet done any sort of extensive testing to see what kind of life I get out of these. If the other specs are correct (a little dubious now), then having 2 of these, fully charged, would be like having an extra internal battery. Not bad for less than $13 ea.

Anyone know how accurate (or inaccurate) the output from the dmesg command is? Is the Nook misrepresenting what it says it's getting from the charger?
[Nook Color General] derekr:
I suspect that what you're seeing on the screenshot is not the charging current but that it recognizes the plug type (B&N 2amp) or standard USB (500ma) that is actually plugged in. Nevertheless it still could be a handy gizmo to have around.

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- Derek
[Nook Color General] Jgrimoldy:
When I used a different model of External USB battery with the same B&N NC cable, it registered as 500mA, exactly as that particular model is rated. Though your thought is justifiably skeptical (and I'm an unrepentant skeptic myself), further evidence suggests there's more going on than just detecting the additonal pins in the B&N NC cable.
[Nook Color General] 12paq:
I believe the standard microUSB cord has a resistor, or circuitry to limit the amperage to .5. The Nook Color has a charging cable with a higher amperage at 1.9, with a special connection so you cannot put it into another device and fry it. Most modern device have a way of limiting the input internally, but the the Nook's cable is unique on the device end to be safe.

If you would like to test this use a standard microUSB and plug it into the Nooks OME wall transformer and measure the amperage. in my tests it always comes out at .5 amps even though the output of the NC's transformer is 1.9 amps.

I use my muti-tester to avoid erroneous software data.

Certaily would like to test this portable charger you mention in your post, for $13 sounds good to me. This would be handy while I am away from wifi and I tether my Android phone to my Nook, the phone could be plugged into this charger, tethering can really burn battery down fast.

Thanks for the tip!
[Nook Color General] tomic22:
I'm going to order that aswell. Has anyone seen other nice accessoires for the Nook color on Dealextreme? Search only gave me a black pouch :p
[Nook Color General] 12paq:
so funny, me too.

Also "CrazyinDigital" from Amazon Canada, even shipped to USA I got a nice Pleather case and a bunch of cables and the silicon cases are decent too. The bulid qualty of the cords is sketchy and the screen protectors don't fit, but I got all the above for $5.19 shipped to the US. I'd pay at least that for the USB cord. (Funny thing the cords say "for Kindle"... gotta laugh.

Back on topic, I might buy this back up charger, sounds good for my battery sucking Android Phone too..
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Given that the USB battery charging specs give up to 1.8A, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
[Nook Color General] 12paq:
Yeah I might have .5 volts mixed up with amps.. I posted that late last night, dozing off.. lol. sorry for the any inaccuracies.

I did these tests a while back and should have recorded the data and not left them too memory.. and age.. lol.

I initiated theses tests becouse I found it took much longer to charge the Nook with a generic cord even if I plugged it in the Nooks wall transformer that has a higher output. it could just be my cords too.

My apologies if my careless quoting of data led anyone astray. Funny, I am usually a stickler about accurate data. ..

Lesson: Never quote data from memory late and after a glass of wine..

Thanks Madcat (:
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
.... wat

You should have plugged into your fingers. Stop making up nonsense.

Standard microUSB is, well, a standard. And that standard says 500mAh max current. The Nook Color cable is non standard and has 4 extra pins. These extra pins, as well as shorted data pins, tells the Nook Color it can draw 1.9Amps.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tamen:
Hi,

So I've done a fair bit of reading and want to root my DHD (mostly for the extra features and apps it enables, and in the future possibly custom roms, but not at the moment). However, there's so many sites all saying to use different methods.

I've found this, which was written only a couple of weeks ago so should be up to date? Even though my phone was brand new about 5 weeks ago, it (for some reason) isn't on the newer kernel (that needs downgrading). EDIT: It doesn't let me post links as I'm new. Search "android devices root desire hd tutorial" on google and it's the top one ;)

How safe is rooting, following this (or a different guide you recommend)? I.E chance of bricking, etc.

I've taken a backup of my SD card (copy + pasted all folders in windows explorer, hopefully that does the trick) - what else should I know before carrying on?

So:

-How should I root my phone and are there any known problems?

-How should I back up my phone before rooting (and how destructive is rooting)?

-Anything else I should know.

Orange, UK, unlocked phone, bought sim-free through dialaphone (they put together a sim only contract and sim-free handset and sell it as a bundle).

Thanks :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UpInTheAir:
There is an excellent guide on xda. Just search Google or xda for "s-off tool HTC desire hd xda" . If you follow it step by step, you will get root, and s-off. S-off will enable you to flash custom ROMs or kernels. There is a link there also for the devs other tool "eng s-off" needed if you want to flash radios.

But, first of all you'll have to set your pc up and able to communicate in ADB. You'll need to dl: HTC sync, sdk tools, fastboot.exe, and some other I can't quite remember off top of my head....not at pc or home.

If your phone is branded, you'll need to make a "gold card". There are guides around for that.

Next follow the s-off guide exactly. There is a link to visionary, which will give you root access, but not able to install any kernels, or ROMs.

Then use the s-off tool and eng s-off tool (if you want).

If you follow these guides exactly, there will not be a problem. Just make sure you have lots of battery, read all the guides steps at least twice, and warnings. There is always a risk.

Before you flash any custom ROM, best also to make a clockworkmod recovery of your original Rom, and copy to a safe place.

So I can't be more specific with the guides, I'm away, just put those quotes into Google, and follow the links in the posts, and you'll be fine.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Morality:
Hi Tamen and welcome to XDA

Personally, I'm not a very much advanced user of handsets, so I am basically in the same position as you. Although, I have a rooted & flashed ROM&Radio.

Jkoljo's tools are a blessing, and so is the thread "+[GUIDE]How to flash a ROM onto your DESIRE HD [COMPLETE]". It utilizes jkoljo's tools well and very much tells you how to get yourself into a working custom rom. Thats how I learned :)

You can find the thread in the "Sticky rollup" of the "Desire HD Development section".

Have fun here! No better place for stuff like this than XDA :cool:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ghostofcain:
Yeah, the post you linked to is essentially the old school root method i.e do it yourself rather than using the one touch tools, and is the method I favour as should anything go wrong you'll no exactly where. Chances of a brick if you follow the instructions is virtually zero so no worries there either, enjoy.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tamen:
Ok thanks everyone, I've setup ADB etc, and got visionary installed, I'll get rooting later today.

Just one last thing - how easy is it to unroot & return to how my phone is now? Can this somehow be done if I brick it? If bricked, obviously it needs to be unrooted when sent back to orange/htc or they'll have a fit and demand £350. As I'm 1 month into a 24 month contract, I'd rather not spend the remaining 23 on a useless phone :P

EDIT: and do I run visionary plugged in with charge only or not plugged in?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Morality:
I don't think you need it to be plugged in, I don't think it matters.

At least visionary has an "un-root" option, and jkoljo's tools have guides to undo everything done so far, afaik :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tamen:
So I clicked temproot and it said "rooting, wait a minute" (or whatever the screen is :P) then went black and restarted :S

Android 2.2

kernel 2.6.32.21

build 1.32.405.6

software 1.32.405.6

Everywhere says that 1.32.405.6 should be fine - any ideas?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superstick1:
Hi Tamen

You do not need to connect to PC to use Visionary+.

Hmm.. your build number is at 1.32.405.6 so it should be a problem. If your phone is higher than 1.32xxxx, say, 1.72xxxxx, then yes you have to downgrade first in order you to use Visionary+.

I guess your phone is branded? Since it is from UK Orange. If yes read up the gold card thread.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkoljo:
The branding is not an issue. Try to reinstall Visionary.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tamen:
It's not branded - Dialaphone buy phones sim-free and buy sim only contracts and put them together - my phone came unlocked and there's nothing that say orange on it, so I can only assume it's unbranded.

I re-installed and tried "temproot" - it didn't black screen this time, but it still re-booted (went to white screen with htc logo), came back, tried "su" in terminal and got permission denied. I don't want to click permroot as if it's not temporary rooted it won't work and could cause problems I think?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ghostofcain:
Try the method you mentioned first. Visionary, it's suggested, may misbehave on some phones the method you posted about in the OP doesn't need visionary to work.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tamen:
Although I haven't perm rooted yet, it successfully temp rooted after another try (3rd attempt, second unplugged)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Morality:
Good show! Now go for permroot and follow around the various guides mentioned :)
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
I just want to warn people of this ive noticed this and hope you guys do use extream caution. When you get a refurb evo from the sprint store when you try to put a screen protector on such as zagg or xtream guard that want you to use water or there spray.

You usally get one shot when you use the squeege to get out the air bubbles and apply pressure to the screen. It causes the glass screen seal to break lose when you try to do it again later such as replace the protector it will leak the water or soultion down on the lcd screen. No matter how careful you are had this happen both times for me had 2 phones replaced the glass screens suck when you apply pressure to them to get the air bubbles out from the protector. Its a one shot go.

So be careful just warning I got my phone swaped out and the screen wasnt glued down right it was peeling up and the woman at the sprint store told me it was cosmetic damage she was being a pain about it lol. Told her im not taking a dicked up phone that they messed up on and she had some tech guys come out and they worked with me and got it fixed. Anyways be wary of the refurbes for the glass will leak.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
That's why I just put the ones without needing water/solution.

send from MikFroYo v4.61
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
my refurb has been through a couple invisa shields, no problems here perhaps they did not apply the seal correctly
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Ya i got lucky with my new evo but then the screen had the light issue with the b spot problem so i had to take it in didnt have it for 2 months and they swapped it out with a refurb sucked. Always having issues with refurbs. Dunno if the insurance company assurance will give you a new for 100 dollars for that price you could buy a brand new one hate the refurbes.
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
ya im using the sprint anit glare screen protector sucks cause it doesnt cover the full screen.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
I have TRIED to scratch my screen just to see how much abuse this thing can take. I was unsuccessful. IMO- screen protectors are unnecessary anyways.
[EVO 4G General] tx_dbs_tx:
EXactly. Same opinion here. I don't use the screen protectors because they give the screen a "rubbery" feel and when swiping with your finger on the screen it drags and feels sticky. So no screen protector for me. Unless you sweep your damn driveway with your phone face down, you don't need that crap on your screens!
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Well it also depends on what type of environment u work in I work im a mechanic and need to keep nasty stuff from getting on the glass .
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
Holy lack of punctuation Batman...
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
Wasn't writing it for a business letter man just throwing it out there .
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
you know all i was doing is a post.

Each to his own. Not starting a flame war. So either post something smart man or your post will be deleted thanks. Keep it releated to the subject.
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
so keep it related any flaming or off subject post will be reported and deleted. Keep it clean.............. Thanks i don't flame or harass i just help noobs and anyone that needs it.
[EVO 4G General] GrimReaper24:
I went that route had issue with finger prints tho. That's pretty much why I use one.