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[Nexus S Android Development] Kurupt1:
I love the way simms likes his kernels, and i know I'm not the only one. Thanks for the great work morfic and being so clear.
[Nexus S Android Development] FAFS:
Okay. Thank you.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
that lowest lower/upper used to be adjustable? o_O
[Nexus S Android Development] anaglich:
It still is. You just need to adjust row 2's lower value.
[Nexus S Android Development] FL0OD:
T132 CM9 kang, new quadrant

°•neXus S4G•°
[Nexus S Android Development] cpom1:
Sorry if this has been answered before but what is KSM? also I'm loving the latest t132 :D
[Nexus S Android Development] cpom1:
So your latest t132 is not undervolted?
[Nexus S Android Development] dinos3:
t 144 dont working with other ics ? only cm? i use nuhetri 4.0.4 .

is it crashing/rebooting?

is dangerous to my cpu for daily use ?

is there another version expect that: tuv10,teuv,t132,t144?
[Nexus S Android Development] Hostile89:
Kernel SamePage Merging. It is supposed to help memory usage I believe. It has to be turned on and can be found in the Performance section of later CM9 releases.
[Nexus S Android Development] ljordan2:
Wow tried the latest Trintity and my Nexus S flies even with 880mhz. Anyways I don't have a boot animation after flashing this kernel is it normal? I thought that trintity kernels had trintity boot animation.
[Nexus S Android Development] albundy2010:
It does, just doesn't work at the moment unless your on cm9.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
yup, normal. for now youll only see the boot animation if you flash cm9 and a cm9 ramdisk trinity kernel.
[Nexus S Android Development] ljordan2:
Oh so i have to flash both cm9 and Trintity at the same time to get boot animation? Because I am currently running cm9 v2.1
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
at first yes, both cm9 and a trinity cm9 ramdisk kernel(not an anykernel). then if you update trinity again(a trinity cm9 ramdisk kernel) you dont have to flash cm9 again for the boot animation.
[Nexus S Android Development] anaglich:
Could Morfic or simms post a screenshot of their automatic brightness settings.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Simms...any thoughts on the new quadrant?

I lost like 500 points from old quadrant on CM9

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[Nexus S Android Development] dinos3:
can i install deep idle on kernel?

and when and why to use deep idle ?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Follow the link to my battery thread
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
i dont use automatic brightness.

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i havent decided what i feel about it yet.. theres parts to it i like and dislike.
[Nexus S Android Development] dinos3:
i 'm not good at english

can i install deep idle on morfic t 132 kernel?
[Nexus S Android Development] anaglich:
I still experience a green flash on screen on even with the display set to 50% and automatic brightness off.
[Nexus S Android Development] kptnk:
Just an off topic question : is this Neuschwanstein Castle on Der Kernel page ?
[Nexus S Android Development] cpom1:
I'm using aokp so is automatically enabled?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
no, but you can compile a trinity kernel with it.

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its enabled by default in trinity.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
I would like to take a quick moment to thank the many people that "hang around" (however much that is possible on a forum thread) and answer questions people have, I am fairly certain simms22 too often goes "Oh this was already answered, cool".

I get notifications of questions asked at work, after work, trying to answer, done, taken care of.

Users helping users makes such threads a great success.

And i would like to thank everyone who ever helped someone else, be it to confirm a problem they had so it could be addressed, helped figure out their unrelated issues, helped them flash a kernel, rom, get bld/bln/tw/* working:

THANK YOU

All of this helps me and simms22 focus on testing stuff and zoning in on the big problems cropping up in the thread.

I think i will now copy paste this from the Nexus S thread to others, i feel G2x and NP threads and even Sensation threads show the same traits.

Daniel
[Nexus S Android Development] kptnk:
I've been there once : marvelous as a creepy Disney castle of something between the dream and the nightmare...but anyway so german :). Sorry for the off topic.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Hmmm bln doesn't seen to be working all day yesterday. on CM9 v2 will test again to be sure tho

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[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Ya not working. Nstools set bln on timeout 0 sec no blink. Bld off teuv at 200/880 conserv

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[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Use BLN control app.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
yup, it works fine with the bln control app, i just tried. i think the nstools app might be broken because bln not working using it, i tried nstools also.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Strange....tried bln pro. No dice. Deleted nstools and tried bln pro. Still no dice.

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
which kernel exactly
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Teuv with blnbld ksm and CM9 ram disk that a a posted the other day.

I'll try a reflash when I get a chance (at work)

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
my settings..
[Nexus S Android Development] gimiento:
Bln works for me on teuv using bln control. Nstools hasn't worked at all for me re: bln.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
thats exactly what im using right now. run a test notification in the bln control app.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Ya.same settings as you posted. No nstools. Track reflash of kernel. Still not working.

Using the test notification is how I been testing this

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[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Reflashed from and trinity. Still didn't work with nothing installed but bln control.

Also tries sg kernel. No bln there either. My phone just must be wigging out. When I get off work tonight I'll try more

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
we'll get it figured out
[Nexus S Android Development] albundy2010:
Check your init d folder for a script left over from another kernel.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Not sure it full wiped actually...just noticed out didn't reset my background and ROM manager it's installed somehow

I did factory reset. Wipe dalvik Format system data boot.

Flash ROM. Flash gapps. setup phone. Reboot flash trinity. Then tested and no bln

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[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Noob alert. No idea what un looking at

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
delete the 98_start_up_script and the placeholder, then reboot, they dont belong there. 98tweak is from trinity.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Done.didn't fix bln to

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
maybe not, but it should fix any future issues of having 2 different 98 files in that folder.
[Nexus S Android Development] dinos3:
http://db.tt/IoTCXrLL

http://db.tt/IC6CxULC

my boot animation not working, its black..

is it problem in my files in folder ? watch screenshots whos i put up..
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
for the moment the Trinity boot animation can only be seen if you are running the latest CM9(or a cm9 kang) and have flashed a Trinity kernel that includes the CM9 ramdisk. if youre on another rom or have flashed an anykernel version of the Trinity kernel then there no boot animation(for the moment).
[Nexus S Android Development] FL0OD:
I would try it without that theme you are running. That theme borked my 4G and some other stuff. Try a fresh install without that.

°•neXus S4G•°
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Ya doing that now flood. Running a euroskank kang from 2/14 still no bln tho. Complete fresh install. Formatted and wiped everything. Flashed it then trinity after setup. Dl bln control pro activate hit test... then power off screen and no bln.

I'm baffled.

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
ok, in the bln control pro app, make sure bln is activated first. then press bln blinking, then press activate blinking. then in the minimum battery level option, be sure that its disabled(or set at a low percent).

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also, i just noticed, that screenshot of your init.d folder was from /etc/init.d, go to /system/etc/init.d and make sure those files arent in there also.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Double checked unit.d no extra files. Tried bln app as you said. No dice on test or with a legit txt message

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
just to make sure, flash this version of teuv. its exactly the same cm9 ramdisk version thats powering my euroskank kang right now http://goo.gl/kHuhy
[Nexus S Android Development] opss:
Attnang-Puchheim OÖ ;) würd auf jeden fall dabei sein =)!
[Nexus S Android Development] gotjazz:
Not sure what to think of this benchmark - with the 11uv kernel and oxygen rom I get only 600 which is about on par with the nexus one although for me oxygen feels a lot smoother than cm7....

oh well
[Nexus S Android Development] shubu000:
Which governor you were using?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
i was using 1100/1100 ondemand.

but for this one i was using the latest kang with trinity1.44ghz 1440/1440 ondemand. 1170, not bad at all.
[Nexus S Android Development] tempera:
Is this true? Simms can u please comment.
[Nexus S Android Development] papedo:
wien, also sind wir gut verteilt hier in österreich:-)

sorry guys for spaming in german;-)
[Nexus S Android Development] eiabea:
austrian nexus s force xD

auch in wien ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
not really, but morfic will have to explain.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Not supposed to be a melting pot, more a salad bowl. Melting pot would mean you lose your individuality.
[Nexus S Android Development] window7:
True, true, and TRUE! People in Australia are mostly using Iphone, Ipad and Mac book. Everything apple. They just dun get what Android is all about :(
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Let's start at the beginning.

Who said anything abouts a disabled vsync?

For kicks, in the vellamo benchmark, hit systeminfo. What Hz does it report there? (Used to be in setcpu info, didn't see it there anymore)

A 60hz panel might come back if it helps TEUV version safe more screen on power, if I ever get around to it.
[Nexus S Android Development] coloxim:
i've miui an the trinity kernel 11...can I use conservative governor for better battery life?
[Nexus S Android Development] demo23019:
i used the word vsync becasue that's what im familiar with that caps out FPS at screens refresh rate

no clue when it comes to android but what ever you guys are doing to remove this cap YES it shows higher FPS and might make you kernel stand out more than others in benchmarks... BUT in reality is hindering 3d performance

Like i said before. removing cap slows down onscreen rendering becasue the screen cant display all the frames

can see this with the naked eye almost slow motion ....you can run let say neocore side by side and kernel with cap will finish before the one with no cap and games are noticeably slower

supercurio pretty much said the same thing while back i guess i need that kind of status to be taken seriously :rolleyes:

FYI Ive been in the computer field for over 12 years might not know how to dev but i know my hardware and i know how to overclock on PC im sure its pretty much same on phones since they also have CPU/multiplier/ voltages a FSB RAM..ect
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
No, you don't need his status. He was interested in the change. And accepted it. Less time ago than when he said it's bogus.

The term vsync is ok.

ps | grep -i sync

Do that in terminal.

The edit is in the panel driver.

Not some hack to render beyond panel limits.

Which is why I told you to check with an app showing you refresh rate.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
what did i miss?? :confused:
[Nexus S Android Development] king23adrianc:
whats the difference between TUV11-NS-08072011 and TUV11-dlt ??

thanks!!
[Nexus S Android Development] demo23019:
misunderstanding on my part
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
ahh.. ok. it happens.
[Nexus S Android Development] chiballer20:
144- unstable for me. Too bad, runs smooth until it reboots. : (
[Nexus S Android Development] brainmaster:
I am having troubles on latest TUV11 dlt version on MIUI ROM.

I like to use the Interactive Governor, but if I set it with NoFrills CPU, on reboot the ROM is unresponsive and complete lagy. If I set it to OnDemand - everything is fine.

Any clues?
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
That's the one I'm on. Flashed anyways. Still no bln. Lol phones mocking me now

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[Nexus S Android Development] GideonX:
simms22 - you have the patience of a saint. Kudos to you sir for the help you are dishing out in this thread.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
lol, poor guy.

the worst part is that it works fine over here, but i hate using it. it annoys me.

:D
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Tbh I can live without it....just my damn mind telling me "it's broken....fix it"

Lol. I do tend to miss msgs without it. But not a huge deal. I'm neurotic when it comes to checking phone.lol

Bld works lol

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[Nexus S Android Development] gimiento:
Maybe you just need to give it a good whack. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
now bld is what i like. i like them completely dark, the button lights hurt my aging eyes ;-)

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im a firm believer in whacking the back of the phone. in fact, thats how i have to work the selections in the bootloader. and if i shake my phone firmly, i can turn on/off my screen :eek:

my power button has been dead since august, and these are some of the consequences. but to be honest, i think my phone like the abuse anyways.
[Nexus S Android Development] tycruickshank:
To get rid of the boot animation on TEUV (i'm not running cm9 so it's just a blank screen) can I just unzip the file and delete the boot animation from /system/media? I've done some searching and that is what I've come up with, but just wanted to make sure that there isn't anything else that needs to be deleted

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And then of course rezip the folder. It should be flashable after rezipping correct?
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Lol. I dled the bln test app and it says all true and the needed files are installed...quite odd. Tempted to flash out of CM9 and try like....BB with an older Steve Garron kennel I remember it working on...but I've been enjoying CM9 =(

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
just boot it then delete it from /system/media/ with root explorer or another root file manager. thats much easier and faster ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] gimiento:
Mommy phones warn their little baby phones about owners like you. :O
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
That's 2/9 bug less beast with the teuv any kernel.

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[Nexus S Android Development] ljordan2:
Bln works for me. Using the latest TEUV kernel.
[Nexus S Android Development] albundy2010:
Make sure you have the latest tuev that simms posted. Ones prior did not have bln.

Also make sure you enable it in the start up script. I can't recall if its on by default.
[Nexus S Android Development] nickmv:
simms or morfic:

Are there any plans to incorporate lulzactiveV2 governors or any other schedulers? I'd love to get back on TEUV kernels, but these new governors are way better suited to everyday usage, in my opinion, and seeing as lazy isnt even available, I'm having to stick to battery-hungry kernels for now. Just curious....
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Ok.just an update in my bln situation. Flashed Petra 2/16 nightly. Then flashed TEUV-ICS-ANY-KSM-BLN-BLD.zip. Got the same error I screened earlier....liblights doesn't support bln etc.

Flashed Steve garons 2/05 kernel and bln works again.

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[Nexus S Android Development] nickmv:
Just use NSTools. May not be what you want and might not be as customizable, but it works.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Sounds like you need to read my battery thread!

kernels ; battery ; ROM ; gov/sched

Now with summaries in the first posts. Convenient for XDA app users!
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Lol you misunderstand. I couldn't get it to work at all with any setting or app. Four fresh ROM kernel flashes later I got it to work with Steve Garron kernel but error whity trinity any kernel version.

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
im gonna ask morfic.. maybe the liblights file on the ns4g is different than on the ns. unless someone here with a ns4g has it working..

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i dont believe so. but maybe with more demand, morfic would consider it.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Willing too test any thing I can easily do to help out. Miss my trinity colors already lol.

Now I can't get a boot animation to work lolol. My phone just really hates me this week.

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[Nexus S Android Development] FL0OD:
Simms22, are you seeing allot of difference between teuv and t132 in battery drain? I have run both and don't see much difference.

°•neXus S4G•°
[Nexus S Android Development] gimiento:
What difference do you see in performance.? I haven't tried t132, tho I'm sure its quite a bit faster.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
t132 at 1ghz is pretty good on battery. not quite teuv good though but close. at 1.32ghz, the way i use the phone, i can drain it fast, but battery is pretty good for 1.32ghz. if i used it moderately at 1.32ghz, it would easily last all day for me.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Unnamed. After more testing. It seems go SMS is not working with bln. But emails and stock messenger are.

Offtopic simms I tossed ya a quick pm

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
difference? t132 is a beast of a kernel. you might even believe that your ns grew another core ;)

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so bln is working for you with teuv now? btw, answered your pm :p

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boot animation is only when flashing a latest cm9(kang) in conjunction with a cm9 ramdisk trinity. if you flash another kernel then a cm9 ramdisk trinity, you wont get an animation.
[Nexus S Android Development] nickmv:
Thanks, but my battery issues aren't the real topic of my post. My issues really lie with the governors and schedulers. They make a world of difference in performance. I dunno what tests have been performed on that, but I see real-world differences that can be drastic at times with different governors.

My experience tells me lulzactive is really nice. Your testing indicates that lulzactive uses much more battery, however I've found this to be not the case at all. There are just too many factors that go into kernel performance to really accurately test anything. The reason is that one person's criteria may differ greatly. My version of runs great may mean that the performance is lag-free, and the battery usage is light, whereas another's version of it may be that the perf is acceptable, but the batt usage is extremely light.

Unfortunately neither lulzactive or lazy is available. I've been using Air kernel and I-CUP speedy 7 lately, but I'm giving the latest TEUV a whirl. Unless something drastic has changed, TEUV has always been a great kernel that shows real differences in batt life. After a year of using this phone, I can say that with absolute certainty. However, ICS leaves a bitter taste in my mouth regarding perf vs batt usage. Hopefully Google can solve some of these issues.
[Nexus S Android Development] gimiento:
Nice, going to flash soon and entertain myself while at work. :-)
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I think maybe it depends on how lulzactive is set up. I was testing with eugene's default parameters. The frequency clearly wasn't settling, the amps being pulled were jumping between a low rate and a high rate.

kernels ; battery ; ROM ; gov/sched

Now with summaries in the first posts. Convenient for XDA app users!
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Ok Simms....IM now euroskanking it with CM9 trinity. Zero bln issues now.

Swapped to twrp instead of can and went a flashing. Alls good in the hood now. Thanks!

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
great!

now i can sleep tonight :p
[Nexus S Android Development] Kurupt1:
Wow that was a wild one, wierd becuase bln always wotks for me with trinity on my ns4g. Nstools or BLN notification.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
I get the feeling something didn't wipe properly art over point and it wigged everything out. Only thing that makes sense lol.

Using bln app and set CPU instead of nstools ATM with trinity to avoid issues. No way to turn on Bld....but not a big issue for me

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[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
i dont use nstools to enable bld, i run these 2 scripts in gscripts(terminal emulator)..

su

echo 1 > /sys/class/misc/backlightdimmer/enabled

echo 1000 > /sys/class/misc/backlightdimmer/delay

1000=1second. 2000=2 seconds...

i use gscripts to save all my scripts and run in one press, but the terminal emulator will work :)
[Nexus S Android Development] nickmv:
I'm loving T132, but until Voodoo colors + sound get added, I'm sticking to air kernel.

Very impressed though with batt/performance. Can't wait to see what it turns into.
[Nexus S Android Development] brianbgrp:
Trinity colors are better than voodoo....and voodoo sound can be added by voodoo app.

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[Nexus S Android Development] chalan30:
I thought voodoo wasn't incorporated yet??
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
its not, but trinitys color is that way because of an older version voodoo(which is where the green flash comes from when brightness is set all the way down).
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Interesting you don't comment on the great color of this kernel.

I will keep it that way, no yellow screen, no control, just right.

Voodoo sound is coming soon.

What this kernel turns into?

Trinity
[Nexus S Android Development] nickmv:
Actually it can't load the sound module. You should try. And I find that Trinity's colors are way too blue
[Nexus S Android Development] FL0OD:
Agreed. I think the colors are spot on. I used to always get upset when people didn't add voodoo color to their kernels because they were terrible. Since I have been on trinity I haven't even thought about it. Colors are perfect. :thumbup:

°•neXus S4G•°
[Nexus S Android Development] chalan30:
nvm... i heart trinity colors
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Give it 3 days. You don't want to be without it.
[Nexus S Android Development] ljordan2:
Haha you are damn right:) Trintity color is amazing.