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[EVO 4G Android Development] jefbal99:
So, I got km working with the new recovery. I flashed cm7 n63, so I'm back to the default CM kernel.

KM still thinks I have tiamat installed. I had to clear app data before I could download/flash again.

Sent from my gginggerfied EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Weird... you were able to flash a kernel using a different recovery? O.O That's... bizarre.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jefbal99:
I started out with CWM and that is where I was getting the boot image errors, along with a bunch of other random oddities. I switched back to Amon's 2.3 and now everything works great.

I think I had one successful KM update with CWM...
[EVO 4G Android Development] sparkyryan:
I'm still having the problem of km going back to the list of kernels when I try to download one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] unit713:
A full wipe fixed this for me.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Android Development] sparkyryan:
Dude I'm bring dumb, wipe what? Cache?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Stajdanley:
I really dig this app, but I just cannot get it to work for me on either of my devices.

On my nook, I download either of Dalingrin's OC kernels and let the app flash it results in "Touch the Future of Reading" boot loops. The only resolution is to reflash CM7 in recovery. If I try to manually flash the downloaded kernel from the KM folder, I still get the boot loops.

On my Evo, I get the "Unable to write boot" error that has been mentioned when trying to flash the GoDmOdE kernel for CM7, but I was able to manually flash this kernel with no problems.

I tried clearing the data and deleting the KM folder. On my EVO I tried both CWM 3.0.0.5 and Amon 2.3 with the same results. I apologize, but I do not have a log. I thought I would mention the issues though. It is undoubtedly a pebkac error... very cool app, even if I can just use it to DL the kernels. Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] satur9ine:
Seriously?! I'm not gonna full wipe just for this one app when I can just manually install kernels. Is there no other fix for it kicking you back to the list of kernels? I'm on CM7 nightlies (2.3.4).
[EVO 4G Android Development] jefbal99:
Interesting feature I just found...

I flashed CM7 n66 and got the CM kernel back. KM still said I had tiamat installed, I tapped the button that said "Installed" and KM unzipped/installed the kernel again.

Any update on KMs reading of the current installed kernel? Any logs or data I can provide from my phone to help the cause?

Sent from my gginggerfied EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] unit713:
I'm having that issue again as well. Everything was working, but then I had to un-root my phone to get Sprint to replace the touch screen for free. After rooting and flashing cm7 nightly 69, KM won't work properly.

I tried Fix Permissions, uninstall/reinstall, delete cache and data...nothing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jefbal99:
Getting a Force Close in KM when hitting menu and advanced options. THis is just after flashing tiamat 4.0.2

Gonna try Godmode, but wanted to check all my settings, thats how I found the error. I sent a report

Edit in: This only occurs when I have my EVO turned landscape, in portrait mode, I get into the advanced options fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
error

Trying to download and flash the latest Tiamat 4.0.2 SBC but I keep getting an error that says "Error unpacking boot image"

anyone know how to get around this error or what causes it?

thanks eins
[EVO 4G Android Development] jefbal99:
What recovery are you using? When I switched to Amon 2.3 from CWM 3.0.0.5 all my boot image errors went away.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
I got that, too. I just clicked the Flash button again, it redownloaded the kernel, and it flashed successfully.
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
I have used KM without problems in the past with AR 2.3, so I dont think that is the likely culprit...

thanks

eins
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
I have tried like 8 times now...same thing I even tried the NON SBC version to see if it was just a bad file upload on the server but still got the same thing.

I also got a notification that KM had updated my Kernel to 4.0.2 but phone says its 4.0.1

I am going to reboot evo and see if that helps...Stay tuned!

eins
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
If a reboot doesn't help, try clearing data from Kernel Manager.
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
Thanks Endless...you always seem to have the answer!

reboot didnt do it, Force stop---clear data worked perfect.

Much appreciated!!

eins
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
Huge space

I suddenly got a notification that my phone was very low on storage space so looked at the program list and saw that Kernel manager was taking up 156MB.

That seems like a really large file size for that program. I uninstalled it and reinstalled it and now it is 1.6MB.

Anyone else seen this program balloon in size like it did for me?

I have not yet installed a kernel with KM since I reinstalled it but before I uninstalled it it was erroring out on every kernel I tried to install.

Thanks

eins
[EVO 4G Android Development] jefbal99:
Did you try to clear the applications data and cache before uninstalling? While I haven't had it happen with KM, I have had others apps with run away cache/data that I cleared out successfully in conjunction with a system reboot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] n1ghtl1fe:
i like the rating part. should have a comment section with our rating to say what rom were on and whats good/bad
[EVO 4G Android Development] unit713:
I still can't flash kernels. When I press download and flash it just loops me back to the kernel selection screen...I've tried just about everything.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Android Development] safeplayer22:
Same issue here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Is Kernel Manager installed to the SD card? If so, move it back to internal storage and it should work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kevank:
Let me see if I can help.

Is the app installed to your SD card? If so please move it back to the phone and try.

If that doesn't work please send over a logcat or PM me if you don't know how.

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] unit713:
Just when I thought that I had tried everything, Shinzul saves the day. Thanks a lot, it works perfectly now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jefbal99:
So with the latest updates, KM still doesn't properly read a Kernel installed outside of the App. Why doesn't the App query Android when launching and list on the new "home screen" what Kernel is installed. This info could then be used in the Kernel listing to properly identify the installed kernel. If the Kernel happens to be one that is not available via KM, then it can just say "Unknown Kernel installed"

Is this a pipe dream I have or is this in the Apps future?
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
Using the pro version, and I have a request for a ' this would be nice to see'. Any way to get changelogs added? It would make it much easier when informed of an update to decide if it's something you want to bother with or not.

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
I've been trying to install Tiamat 4.0.5, and no matter what I do, it errors out, switching between not being able to create a boot image or not being able to unpack the boot image. I've tried clearing data for Kernel Manager and deleting the folder, which worked last time, and I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling Kernel Manager. It's not on my SD card, so that's not the problem. I sent the error report that I could send. I'm not sure what else to try.

I'm using the Pro version if it makes a difference.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xsisbest:
another sweet option would be to backup your current kernel before flash.. Not sure that is even possible but it would be so nice.. so many times i flash a kernel only to find out it doesn't work. I'm finding alot of times too that the only one that works is the stock kernel which is hard as hell to find on some roms. Just a thought..
[EVO 4G Android Development] jessesse:
Would it be possible to have an option to flash team win recovery? That would be cool since your recovery is badass!
[EVO 4G Android Development] thermbug:
Same problems

evo loving vaelpak 3.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] .torrented:
For people flashing kernels with pro version try the no-paid version and see if that works... did for me
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
I FINALLY figured out this stupid "couldn't create boot image" error!

Oh man that was a huge PITA to figure out.

I'm pushing a fix to the market as we speak - it'll be in version 1.4.0P.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nivron:
Thanks! I've had this problem off and on, both on Sense and AOSP. I would guess that it only flashed properly about 20% of the time. Otherwise I'd boot into recovery and navigate to the folder that KM downloaded the kernel to.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Oh, man! That's awesome! I can't wait. Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tide88:
Currently using pro version. I always get a wifi error when flashing a kernel on a sense rom. Ive had this for a month and tried several times. Works great on asop roms though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
I just pushed the fixes and updates to Lite. Enjoy! And let me know if you have any problems :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] oxman:
No support for Galaxy S II ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ben.nesheim:
Just wanna say great job. Finally remembered to buy it :) enjoy your coffee :P
[EVO 4G Android Development] jbird951:
question about this + MIUI

I installed MIUI on my EVO 4g a few days ago and stumbled on this app. I'm running the latest MIUI and it's reporting 2.6.37.6-Cyanogenmod-01493-g70877de shade@toxygen#1 as the default rom. MIUI build is 111040. Any ways I used this app to try and flash a different kernal, I tried 3 different ones, Tiaman_EVO_SBC, and 2 Netarchy ones (sorry don't remember which) It would flash and when my phone rebooted as soon as exited the lock screen I'd get constant "com.android.phone" crashes and the phone wasn't usable. The only way I was able to fix it was to boot into recovery and do a nand restore.

I'm thinking there might be something different I need to do because of MIUI, but Googling isn't helping me here. Any ideas? thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
That's a weird bug in MIUI. It happened to me a couple weeks ago, and I didn't even install a new kernel. I just rebooted my phone and got the force closes. Like you said, there's nothing you can do but restore a backup.

And by the way, Netarchy kernels are for Sense. They won't work with MIUI.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jbird951:
Thanks for the reply, you know what's weird? I just flashed a Netarchy kernel and my phone's actually been working even after 3 reboots *knock on wood* I couldn't get the Tiaman SBC one to flash, which is suppose to be pretty solid. Hummm if this Sense rom doesn't work with MIUI I wonder how I got it working, dumb luck I guess :D

*update*

Question to anyone who knows, I wanted to flash another kernel, when I ran Kernel Manager and selected the list it did some loading and went back to the main screen of the app. I rebooted, same thing, I went into recovery and wiped both the caches, same thing. I even tried un and reinstalling the app, still no luck :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Well, "working" is subjective. The phone can boot with Sense kernels, but you may notice graphical glitches or other strange behavior.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jbird951:
Good to know, I restored a nand with the default CM kernel, and 2 reboots later I got the same com.android.phone error and had to nand again. Either my luck's crap or MIUI doesn't work well with Evo's.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ccaudio1:
looks like the data your restoring might be corrupted on the dialer / phone apk. i would suggest a fresh install. dont do a data restore. just restore apps
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
You don't have to go to recovery at all. It's all done through the app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mjcole2003:
Great Idea. Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] fmedina2:
Pretty cool to see a developer helping other developers get their stuff out there. Awesome idea! Sorry if I missed it but is this going to the market?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mmegalodon:
Says the app will be released in the market.
[EVO 4G Android Development] adamantypants:
Amazing. Thank God you guys develop on the Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] egzthunder1:
This is going in the Portal. Great work guys!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kratos313:
wow cant wait to try this out
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
nice very nice !
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tiffany84:
Nice. U guys never cease to amaze me. Thank u so much for all u guys do!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] TylerMF:
SWEET!

This is brilliant!! I love the stability rating concept. It's like a quick way to get a feel for what others think w/o having to dig through hundreds of pages just to see if it's something you'd be interested in flashing (I personally sometimes read just to see if the general opinion is good or bad). Can't wait to try it out. Thanks a bunch!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Funkmon:
Thanks! This is the thing that keeps me from bothering playing around with new kernels, really. Sheer laziness. Now I have no excuse!
[EVO 4G Android Development] snandlal:
For Shinzul my Ninzul...uncle jimmy says hello
[EVO 4G Android Development] monkeychef:
Make it work for amon ra?

Sent from yeaaaaa buddy.

Edit: Hehe, I didn't read the whole thing... /facepalm
[EVO 4G Android Development] 4 Door Skyline:
Sent from my Ginger ***** Supersonic
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigrushdog:
Shinzul we still have to flash boot.img in bootloader on Xoom. And we don't have SD support yet. Can Xoom users still get some Teamwin love?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mkeena0305:
Update notifications as in rom manager. If there was any way to pull data from battery use and average them would be awesome ( pull stats every time phone is put on charger)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Every device will at least have the ability to download kernels through the app. Not all devices will be supported for the flashing process (for obvious reasons).
[EVO 4G Android Development] freexx89:
Bi-Winning........

Swyped using SuperSonic
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
Sounds awesome!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kf2m:
What would make this project epic is the inclusion of Grub so we can store locally, and boot different kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
The app does this, basically... once you're downloaded a kernel, you can flash back to it any time without having to re-download. Flashing a kernel takes less than 10 seconds, then it reboots.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kratos313:
this is another reason i love HTC devices the dev work is great you don't see this much new stuff on the samsung forums.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
kick ass job shinzul you rock!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
HTC 4 life here.

Its development community cant be beat their the best.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sparkyryan:
Nice, it will save me looking through 3 or 4 sites to search kernels even if I can't flash it to my n1
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Flashing kernels is supported on the nexus one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] talktothehandroid:
Yes!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] rickpref:
Wouldn't it be more convenient if Google just hired TeamWin and Cyanogen and incorporate all the different features into AOSP? It's amazing what you guys are doing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] monkeychef:
It's too bad carriers wouldn't want them working on Android. If the carriers didn't care, I'm sure Google would snatch them up to improve the os.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sparkyryan:
I will pay for this!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sparkyryan:
Did I mention I want to have your babies?

when will it be available? Who do you have on board? Wild monk, redstar, internet raven?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
rofl!! that's teamwin ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] kf2m:
Cool. But you can only flash between two kernels, or can you be presented with a list like Grub?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tkdkicker04:
have any bites on devs posting their kernels yet?
[EVO 4G Android Development] johntheman_692003:
uhh. I cant find a download link for this??J
[EVO 4G Android Development] Fightspit:
Does this app give links of the kernel sources (hosted by developers) ?

Otherwise, it breaks the GPL license and moderators may lock this thread :/
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Really, who is uncle jimmy? You really need to come up with some new things to post bro.

Good idea though Shinz, I'll have to give this a whirl.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Ummmm cool:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] busventinc:
Team win at it again great job fellas
[EVO 4G Android Development] eyeballer:
There will be a list, as long as kernel devs upload their kernels.

We have some, but you may want to check with your favorite kernel devs and encourage their participation :)

It's not out yet, stay tuned.

Kernel devs are required to submit a link to their source with their binary for Kernel Manager, it will be made available to the users.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdubs:
I'm kinda drooling right now. Can't wait for this to come out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhantomHacker:
Can't wait for this to be realesed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bryanx2k5:
can't wait for this
[EVO 4G Android Development] evouser22:
how did you get your battery like that
[EVO 4G Android Development] TommyNgo215:
That's an awesome idea guys. Bravo! !!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceabbott2:
Itching for it

I like it!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ModXMV:
This looks awesome and I am eager to donate/buy the full version!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jahnile:
Just what the doctor ordered...
[EVO 4G Android Development] sparkyryan:
Cool a whole team, and they're winners ;-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] rugedraw:
Great concept......seems very handy.

This would work on Sense roms, too, right?

Edit: "Right now, we have a specific list of supported phones, but plan to add every nand-unlocked phone as soon as possible."

Guess so. Pretty cool.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
oh haha, your comment just reminded me of one of the teamwin support xda signature banners... :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] frettfreak:
BRILLIANT!! Cant wait...
[EVO 4G Android Development] 4 Door Skyline:
Hell of an idea Shinzul....if you dont mind, I have a suggestion:

In the description area you can add something like:

Type: AOSP/Sense/Touchwiz, etc.

Android OS Version: 2.1, 2.2, 2.3

SBC: Yes/No

HAVS: Yes/No

Overclock capable: Yes/No

Min/Max Speeds: 128/1113

Issues: screen tearing at less than 128MHz, wi-fi spotty, etc.

Where each field would be specified by the kernel author.

*BTW, I want no credit for these suggestions, I'm just throwing my 2¢ in to try to help the community make a fully informed decision as to which Kernel to flash, and to minimize the amount of questions asked to the OP, Teamwin & Shinzul. They do more than necessary for us! Keep up the good work!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
These changes were already in the latest version of the app :). Lots of new goodies in the app now. We're getting VERY close to a market release.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 4 Door Skyline:
Awesome, cant wait to try it out, I am a bonafide flashaholic, and am currently using lots of your work, all very very high quality!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Yes it is supported for all android flavors, and eventually all rooted android devices.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
I'm going to buy this app, thank you teamwin for making my evo better
[EVO 4G Android Development] DCLocal:
Excellent!

This is really a great idea, I can't wait to try it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slickrick54:
Team Win

Great idea and concept. Keep up the great work. 4geeeez HDMI and now a kernel app wow you guys are sick. Whats next who knows but it will be sick once again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bitmappp:
GENIUS! can't wait...
[EVO 4G Android Development] fivefour:
I have a question, this is to be a paid app?

What would be the kernel developers motivation for helping you to profit from their kernel work? If not a paid application please disregard.
[EVO 4G Android Development] justgregit:
From the OP

I'd say think about it as being akin to the "Donate" version of ROM Manager.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Exposure.

Being in Kernel manager would allow more people to see your work. The same as being in ROM manager. I find a kernel I like, or one I didn't know about. I install it, I like it, I donate to the kernel developer. Or I visit their personal webpage and they get a few ad impressions, etc.

Does it always have to be about money?

edit: This post says it alot better than I did.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kellyrx8:
teamwin rocking it again, great work guys!
[EVO 4G Android Development] eyeballer:
If you read the OP, there will be an ad-supported free version and an ad-free paid version.

Our hope is kernel developers will see this as a way to get their kernels to a wide audience as well as receive comprehensive feedback from the users directly on our management interface.

Finally, hosting for the kernels through kernel manager as well as use of our interface is free to the developer.

Finally finally, I would really hope that the kernel developers would understand that TeamWin's goals have always been to advance development for the community as a whole, as clearly evidenced by Wimax in Cyanogenmod and our FREE HDMwIn mirroring solution (for the Evo).
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
Quite aside from that, it gets kernel devs greater exposure. Not even CLOSE to most people read XDA/PPCGeeks/etc. Having a single app in the market where pretty much EVERYONE can get to that shows kernels for your specific device, with ratings, would be extremely advantageous to kernel developers....many (if not most) of whom have donate pages. The more exposure, the more chance of getting donations for the developer. It's a win/win.

(This obviously is NOT meant to imply that developers are in it for the money. 99.9% of them are in it solely to create something good for the community.)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jimbobtexas:
This is chock-full of epic Sheen-win. Looking forward to this, guys. Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] storm68:
LOL..... Love the phrase... :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] fivefour:
Thanks for the information and link.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fivefour:
The donations help developers purchase new devices, so it is a little about the money.

I don't particularly like Rom Manager and was excited when I heard of this application, my kernel work could use more exposure I just want to make sure it's done in a way that is beneficial to all parties before submitting...the community, the app devs, and the kernel devs. Something that Koush has failed to do with Rom Manager in my opinion, it always seemed to me that RM was about making his pocket fatter...I know he has done a lot for the community and thank him but I'm speaking strictly of Rom Manager.
[EVO 4G Android Development] eyeballer:
Absolutely. Of course, donations help developers purchase new devices which they continue to develop for and the community continues to benefit.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fivefour:
I like the look of the application, the ratings system is most interesting as long as not abused by children (ala android market), all in all looks to be a winning application.

I believe I will submit my deprimed kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] augoza:
Can't wait!
[EVO 4G Android Development] raecarter82:
I hope the HTC ace/dhd is supported