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[HTC Sensation] nirvana2506:
check this out: http://www.htcinside.de/das-htc-sensation-unterzieht-sich-einem-weiteren-kamera-test/ (its in german, but at least you can check out the cam's 1080p recording quality) and compare it to this http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-review-588p5.php

the galaxy s2 has continous autofocus, better quality and a better recording container (mp4 vs 3pg)..
[HTC Sensation] X46X:
Your link not works..
[HTC Sensation] nirvana2506:
sorry, should work now...
[HTC Sensation] kaiserkannon:
Personally I was very worried about the pentile matrix on my atrix, because the screen on my nexus one always bothered me. But the atrix's different version of pentile doesnt bother me. For some reason the rgbw pentile on the atrix I don't notice while the rgbg pentile on my nexus one made me rage. Though all in all I would still prefer no pentile sub matrix.
[HTC Sensation] Merjin:
still have doubts of wich one to get xD

its just the build quality thing what is keeping me from deciding ^^
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
there is infos about that all over this page : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=978200&highlight=back+cover&page=43

Plastic is much better for heat dissipation and if you plan to keep your phone for more than 6 months it can preserve all the internal of your phone, don't even talk about plans to overclock it..
[HTC Sensation] vinokirk:
IMO the Sensation is a no-brainer. The main reason for that is the qHD screen and the 16:9 aspect ratio.

This is what I personally (along with a dual core cpu) have been waiting for, for over a year now.
[HTC Sensation] abuserkadayf:
true, but isnt the slcd very inferior compared the the super amoled plus of the sgs2
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
Depends on your preference. The SAMOLED definitely has more color saturation than the SLCD, but lacks the crispness of the SLCD. To me, my phone is a productivity device first, entertainment device second. Games and movies will look more colorful on the SAMOLED, but web pages and e-mail will look crisper on the SLCD.
[HTC Sensation] Chivalryyyy:
sorry if its been asked before... but my last 4 phones have been HTC and ive grown to love senseUI... but i just love the sgs2 and wonder what the likelyhood of a custom rom with sense being made to work on the sammy?

Dont know if its a daft question or even impossible.. im not one for messing around with roms and stuff so i dont know whats do-able and what isnt.. :)
[HTC Sensation] BigWorldJust:
I'm just going to get this seeing as there isn't an announced US carrier for the SGSII yet.
[HTC Sensation] Virtue94:
Same here. One would think that since the SGSII was announced first, it would the faster product to get to market.
[HTC Sensation] android_master:
Very inferior to be honest.

There is just no comparison b/w SGS 2 & Sensation in terms of multimedia performance{Camera/Screen/Videos}.
[HTC Sensation] JustSayMyName:
Which is better exynos or tegra 2 on samsung galaxy s II?
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
Latest benchmarks says exynos, by a big margin
[HTC Sensation] JustSayMyName:
I have read it's only limited. I hope exynos will be coming to our country. :D

Still confused what to choose from galaxy s II and htc sensation though.
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
You won't know that until you test both phones side by side. Until then, it's pure speculation.
[HTC Sensation] :
If your in the USA then your getting the exynos. I believe it also the UK. Every one else is getting the tegra2 processor.
[HTC Sensation] dinan:
That was true for SAMOLED vs SLCD, but the galaxy 2 has SAMOLED plus, which isn't pentile like SAMOLED but a normal RGB stripe like SLCD so it will be just as "crisp" but with more vibrant colors. Better on all fronts now, except the sensation has a higher resolution screen. So the deciding factors should be higher resolution vs. more vibrant colors (some say oversaturated) and pure blacks, both are RGB stripe now.

Viewing angles and pixel response time are better on SAMOLED since HTC's displays aren't even IPS LCDs. To me I would choose the SAMOLED plus without hesitation but if that extra bit of resolution is that important then go for the sensation.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
if the sgs2 is anything like the sgs 4g im stcking to my choice of the sensation... just got a sgs 4g cuz my hd2 screen broke and its feels soo light and flimsy in my hand... im sorry but its a phone not a feather.
[HTC Sensation] JustSayMyName:
can someone give me a list of pros and cons of htc sensation and samsung galaxy s II? I need to choose one. :)
[HTC Sensation] Nelthalin:
There are a lot of people saying that the G SII will be faster then the Sensation but i'm not sure if i look at these scores:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/...preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked/1

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2

The question is did the Mali GPU get a speedboost aswell? If not the Adeno 220 will be way faster. I hope they will test a Sensation soon. so we also know more about the CPU performance. But the GPU of the Sensation is looking really good.

And when running 1GHz the G SII is not faster compared to a 1 GHz Tegra. The retail G S II will be faster because of the new higher clockspeeds. But a Tegra is also capable of running 1.2GHz.
[HTC Sensation] Tubgirl:
I know the SGS2 has USB host, but does Sensation also have it?

Brgds... /Tubgirl
[HTC Sensation] Huck33:
benchmark is not the only point to take into account

the UI of samsung is awefull

the screeen resolution is lower too, and this have a direct impact on benchmark.

ths sgs2 will probably have better results.. but what about user experience?!

Power is nothing without control....
[HTC Sensation] FLAC Vest:
I completely agree; thinking back to the days where I had my Captivate (Super AMOLED), I remember turning.g the camera app on and before taking a picture or recording the video, justlookomg at the screen and all of the detail it holds.
[HTC Sensation] nxdu:
I'm okay with the screen type, but in one comparison video review, the colours of capture pictures and footage appear off tone, blueish.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
@Nelthalin,

And those "adreno 220 SCORPION 1.5Ghz chip " benchmark scores" are from qualcomm with a finalized Software / hardware unit..
[HTC Sensation] android_master:
Anyways i will wait till July to find out regarding the development in xda for both of these superphones.

Using N1 for close to 14months now,never have a issue with it,the built quality of HTC is top notch.Samsung Galaxy S on the other hand has couple of issues regarding lagfix & GPS.

Seems like Samsung has sorted them out this time in SGS 2 right from the retail unit.
[HTC Sensation] Maedhros:
The ONLY reasons you would purchase the Sensation is..

1. You cant but the Evo 3D

2. HTC Build Quality or HTC Sense

3. The Screen

4. Fanboy
[HTC Sensation] JustSayMyName:
what about the screen? Samsung's screen are far better than htc's.
[HTC Sensation] JustSayMyName:
What about the screen? Samsung's screens are far better than htc's.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
Well some may prefer a slightly better resolution (960x540 on HTC Sensation vs classic 800x480 on the S2) over all other benfits that SA+ have
[HTC Sensation] JustSayMyName:
is there a big difference on their resolution? Is it noticeable?
[HTC Sensation] denis_y_s:
At 4.3" size it is quite noticeable, I don't see any reason to make more then 4" screen if resolution is 480x800..
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
More info on that in this thread : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044238&page=2
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
What it all comes down to is resolution vs. color saturation. Although I liked the colors of the SAMOLED display, many users consider them unnatural and oversaturated (again, a matter of opinion). My personal color preference is the SLCD display used in the HTC G2 - the color saturation is in perfect balance with display sharpness. I've yet to see the Sensation's display in real life, so I can't pass judgment. It does look good in videos, though.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
"qhd" is just a resolution nothing else, it means 960x540 while galaxy s2 is 800*480

just another marketing crap to be honest, just like "Super AMOLED Plus" name that design the technology of GSII's screen.

In terms of image quality, you will never be able to compare a proper oled to any lcd in the world, its just a different technology in a different league, since oled beats the crap out at every aspect, yes (including power consumption in sgs2).

LCD since day 1 has not had any sucesss in image quality, it still stands behind CRT in many aspecs but 1, since its active matrix, the pixel static position helps lcd gain a better advantage at max res in sharpness over crt (at least if that's not a Pentile Matrix LCD like the qHD screen on the Atrix which is just horrible), and more luminance but thats just it.

OLED again beats lcd in every single aspect and if u like games, the oled 0.01ms pixel response time vs lcd top of the line 2.00ms (GTG) which actually means around 4-5ms real response time is just no competition, again in a whole different league, and no matter what other trolls around the forum try to tell you, yes even at 2ms(gtg) it blurrs at 30fps in a 2d game or any game that u have to move ur camera angle often.
[HTC Sensation] pakraider:
Sign me up for a SGS II if there's one for T-Mobile with AWS support. If not, we have to settle for the Sensation. Simple as that.
[HTC Sensation] Sofly999:
Same for me. I'd take SGSII if it supports AWS but I'm pretty sure it won't for a while.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
Uh sorry but what is AWS ?? a video/audio codec ?
[HTC Sensation] kampf:
AWS = 1700MHz spectrum used by T-Mobile US and some Canadian carriers.
[HTC Sensation] kampf:
Agreed. The engadget review has me sold on this until they can do a review of the Pyramid.

I do hope an AWS version is available immediately.

Think of it, T-Mo is in the grip of a takeover and it'll potentially have the best smartphone lineup from any carrier in the US: G2x, SGS2, and Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
Oh ok, that's just your carriers things over there in the US, glad we don't have those limitations here. Just have to take an unlocked version and use it pretty much everywhere in Europe with any carrier

The engadget review surprised me I thought they will put a classic "non-apple-product" 8 score
[HTC Sensation] pakraider:
if this is true, yum.

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/t-mobile-to-carry-samsung-galaxy-s-2/
[HTC Sensation] Javalescu:
Guys, for a phone, a dual-core 1.2 Ghz CPU means that it has two cores, each running at 1.2 Ghz ? ( like a normal PC )

Or it has two cores, each running at 600Mhz ?
[HTC Sensation] mattfmartin:
Both run at 1.2
[HTC Sensation] checkbox111:
Can't decide? have you ever seen anything so fugly as this :eek:
[HTC Sensation] d12unk13astard:
lol
[HTC Sensation] dangerousp:
I do agree.. buth everyone has a different taste
[HTC Sensation] saveferris:
Yes I have, This phone is fuglier......

Some kid has scribbled some lines on the back cover, while on the front top of the phone where the screen meets the chassis...looks to have a swollen abnormal head protruding outwards. Sloth love Chunk......weird.
[HTC Sensation] RellikZephyr:
personal preference... really

i agree with checkbox111, GSII is ugly. Sensation i like. that pic there i like... bi color, the tri color not so sure about but i still like

RellikZephyr
[HTC Sensation] checkbox111:
If you fell that strongly about it and are never going to buy one, and have no interest in one, why are you posting on this forum :confused:

Go to http:www.my-made-of-plastic-samsung-gs2.com/forum and post there :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
LMAO you crazy :D like frankenstein rofl

But I agree Sensation's design seems outdated for me, like you said all this curvy lines looks like they were made by disney and the icing on the cake is the Tricolor back cover :

WTH were they thinkin' when they designed this phone ?
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
Since we're taking about outdated design, the GSII looks like a carbon copy of iPhone 3GS, as did the original Galaxy S. At the very least, HTC doesn't try to be an iClone.
[HTC Sensation] greengoldmello:
Now this is just a lie. It hardly looks nothing like the 3gs...
[HTC Sensation] Spl4tt:
in my opinion the SGSII looks awsome.

its so thin, that design doesnt even matter anymore

with this i mean, why should it be curved, or have more textures, or whatever when its SO THIN

i definitely like it, its jus tso simple

on the other hand.. i hate the three buttons, i prefer the Sensation's softkeys

i need a proper home button.. but i guess i could get used to it.

the design of the sensation.. is okay, but goddamn, it still looks like the old desire..

HTC, ITS FINALLY TIME FOR A NEW DESIGN

i would get the SGSII instantly when i knew that it would get dev support like the HD2 has..

community is the only point im worried about..
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
Agreed maybe we are the ones that love the design of the S2 but what a beauty gush O_O

And for the community and dev support of the S2 I would not worry even a bit if I were you, look :

-top 5 forums of xda are dominated by Galaxy S and its variants

-S2 has an unlocked bootloader

-it is already rooted

-Modaco just get his own S2 today

- Supercurio is here too, with all its sounds hacks, FS enhancements and kernels just around the corner

-Chainfire is on the party too and actively working for the S2, he even got the first root access without even having it in his hands

-all that in just the first week of its availibilty

I will much more worry about the community of the Sensation hence the locked bootloader (that Incredible S users still can't overtake after months) and the current activity of its forum here :(
[HTC Sensation] Spl4tt:
if all this is true, u just convinced me.

im gonna check and preorder it then..... really... XD
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
Well you can just have a look by yourself on GSII's "general" and "android development" forums if you want before pre ordering nothing ;)

EDIT: found a quote from the trusted Dev Chainfire..
[HTC Sensation] dangerousp:
guys.. this is not the SGSII thread, but sensation versus SGSII. I don't care if you preorder the SGSII (i've preordered the sensation with my own reasons) but why is more the question.

Like the design of the SGSII.. I simply don't like it! It looks really outdated and all because it HAS to be thin (come on guys.. we are talking about mm here that the Sensation is thicker) and not if it has to lay good in your hand.
[HTC Sensation] denis_y_s:
The poll results are speaking for themselves, on average 60% Sensation and 40% SGSII.

I voted for the Sensation, I love its design and higher screen resolution.
[HTC Sensation] mrHD2:
The why don't you both piss off over to the S2 forum then and stop posting on here!
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
there is no samsung forum that has as much support as the hd2... u guys are ridiculous.... the sg4g and all the galaxy variants are iphone clones with changes... i have a sg4g and as soon as i can get the sensation in june... the sg4g will be tossed off my roof... talk about support for a phone... lol samsung sucks
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
I stand corrected. It looks like a 3GS with a bit of iPhone 4 thrown in.
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
@dangerousp and MrHD2:

I've stated the same exact thing several times. If you like the SGSII so much, why post in the Sensation forum? None of us are interested in Sammy. I'm not accusing anyone, but it just smacks of trolling.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
LOL dude

FORTUNATELY here in the Sensation forum it's a little bit more for the Sensation and almost 50 - 50 (43 -57 in real facts) , in comparison on GSII's forums the 2 poll between these two handsets gives both 95 - 5 for the GSII, as you just, poll results are speaking for themselves... :o

Because I'm getting both ! :)

My GSII sim-free is coming tomorow "theorically" and the Sensation is coming on May 13th here in france, I will order it straight away as I'm due to an upgrade ;)

Wow... are you a troll? Run-on sentence with bad grammar and baseless (and completely wrong) claims, yea I probably shouldn't be feeding you but I'll just correct some infos

We are talking about android phones here so : Android ROMS and kernels and it is clear that HD2 android development forums on xda are nothing even compared to the Galaxy S i9000 solely, check your facts : i9000 1,024 threads > HD2 226 (SD) + 95 (NAND) = 321 threads

Now don't get me wong I got this phone and I loved it, it was such a beast some years before
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
dude... what they hell can u even add or do you have good arithmetic skills.. honestly u r the troll.. for the basis of facts i just looked on the main page with all the phones listed the hd2 has 9000+ for android development and the i9000 has 1024 so who is being a troll.. i had an hd2 the screen broke and decided to try out the galaxy... worst decision ever.. phone design sucks and its too light feels like a toy. and whats so special about grammar.. when half of the people here dont even speak or understand english so well and i dont want to cause unnecessary arguments just know that i choose to type this way because i am lazy... so troll away.. i am not goin to hate on the sgs2 i was a samsung fan back when they released the d500 had 2 of em but now i cant take the i clones..
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
UH :confused:

You are right grammar aside then, R U blind ??
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
Wow, now people are arguing over which forum has more threads? :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
I'm so glad someone have noticed this.
[HTC Sensation] eadred:
What is the pleasure to be a bug? Some seem to know no limit when it comes to be annoying. The guy is apparently feeding himself with despise.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
NOW STOP OFF TOPICS all the overzealous HTC fans, you are not alone here. That's not because you don't like listening something about this phone that you are allowed to call someone a bug, some peeps here don't realize there is alot of people that are deciding between this two phones so let them have arguments about both phones and stop OFF TOPICS

And like already said:

EVERYONE REMEMBER

This thread is open to discussions and free opinions. Hence the title Vs. Everyone can have thier own opinion on the devices face to face
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
@touness:

Dude....really??? Overzealous HTC fans? How can you call someone overzealous when you're acting like Samsung's personal fluff girl? Now I'm convinced beyond reasonable doubt that you're trolling.
[HTC Sensation] zkyevolved:
I'm actually stuck between the two. HTC will be awesome, but the camera will stink. Probably the audio quality won't be the best either. While the Samsung will just stink too in its own fields. I don't know! They're both AWESOME phones! I don't mind either design. I'd PREFER the Samsung probably, the HTC is slimmer (looking) but I don't really care about that. Battery life is important, too. So the Samsung will probably get extended batteries while the HTC won't get more than 100 mah more cuz of its unified body. Right?
[HTC Sensation] denis_y_s:
It is open discussion thread, it's just you so annoying :D
[HTC Sensation] Badwolve1:
For all this may concern,

I have been receiving complaints about this thread. If I find any more posts going off topic or that I class as offensive to another member, you will recieve a Infraction.

If the thread doesn't get back on topic, it will be closed. This would be a shame as the initial idea is a good one.

Badwolve1
[HTC Sensation] Spl4tt:
cause the name of the thread is "[INFO] Samsung Galaxy S 2 vs HTC Sensation: Battle of the dual core beasts." wich should help me decide between those two phones.

i decided now :)
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
I think I have a small hint about what you chose but if you didn't already pre ordered it, I'll get both in my hands pretty soon and will take requests ;)
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
um numb nuts i dont see any numbers there... i refuse to belittle myself and continue to argue with u.. just enjoy your phones and have nothing to say to me.. what u posted was a bunch of nonsense no numbers just the different sub forums that the i9000 has so just quit being a troll.
[HTC Sensation] EmceeGeek:
if the galaxy s 2 comes out in its "original" form, not like the other galaxy s phones, i'll get it. if the sensation comes out first though, i'll have to get that.
[HTC Sensation] FishTaco:
Do you think the results have anything to do with the poll being posted in the HTC Sensation forum? I have a feeling if it was posted in the S II forum the results would be quite different.

Both look like great devices, I just wish some launch dates would be announced.

Update: I did look and there is the same poll in the S II forum. It's 94% S II & 4% Sensation. I think the percents are worthless, but all of the comments in both forums are interesting.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
I heard Samsung is holding a show on May 25th, they might clear the situation for ths US SGS2's...

Tbh I don't think they will launch in its unbranded form, I rather see them make 4 new variants for each carrier like last years GS variants. Btw there is alot of US members out there that have it already, they ordered it from UK and they're using it on ATT network ;) so..
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
I've seen a few pictures of the Sensation where the entire back of the phone was removed. This would make it possible for 3rd party vendors, and maybe even HTC itself, to manufacture extended life batteries and a new battery cover to accomodate them.
[HTC Sensation] CB620:
The sensation is coming out the 8th of june. The S2 is out now but prolly wont reach us till later on this year.
[HTC Sensation] jordanprudent:
I have just Pre orderd my sensation from vodafone. Personally I am not a fan of the samsung handsets , and I can't stand the look of the s2.

Coming from a hero , to desire hd to iPhone 4 the quality of htc has always really impressed me. The improvements in sense look brilliant , the screen improvements to the same resolution as the iPhone will be a nice treat for BBC iplayer.

One thing that has always annoyed me about htc is that their handsets seem to be 95% finished with some details that have been over looked. I am hoping that this sensation will be the finished product for once.

Looking forward to having android back , will write up a detailed review once I have given the phone a run.

Sent from my iPhone 4
[HTC Sensation] nzxtneo:
Haha :D

I would say the Galaxy S2 is a bit iphone-esque and TouchWiz is rather similar as well.

But then I have always wanted to believe the notion that crapple copied Samsung.

http://phandroid.com/2011/04/20/did...r-iphone-design-from-samsung-pot-meet-kettle/

The main reason that I am going with the Sensation is that I still really don't trust Samsung yet. With all the ways Samsung has let people down in the past, I am not ready to jump-ship just yet...
[HTC Sensation] mkouk:
I went to Phones4U today to see how the Galaxy S2 fits in my hand it just didn't feel very functional. It is tio square and it doesn't feel as good as my Nexus One.

I was quite disappointed because the screen is amazing.
[HTC Sensation] aaronkt:
Since the Evo3d and the sensation are basically the same phone what is stopping us from using the battery in the sensation from the evo3d? If i recall correctly the evo3d battery was a few hunderd more mha in size over the sensation.
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
If the battery compartment lid can be used with the Sensation, nothing is stopping us. If, however, it cannot, we'd have to wait until a custom lid is manufactured. Then again, we can always MacGyver the battery with duct tape! ;)
[HTC Sensation] Badwolve1:
Everything is possible with Duct tape :) Made a back cover for my HTC Diamond as the original got cracked :(
[HTC Sensation] kampf:
Sensation looks to be available on T-Mobile first.

If it doesn't pass muster, it goes back and I try the SGSII. Simple.