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[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
for real still no official froyo on verizon?
[Epic 4G General] GoogleAndroid:
But when it first released, they also said that what 2.2 came in November, you could choose between Google or Bing.
[Epic 4G General] GoogleAndroid:
Yep. Of course we have leaked builds, but there is no official release. And supposedly, the newer test builds that have been submitted to Verizon for testing, have all mysteriously vanished without a trace. They're basically screwing us over.
[Epic 4G General] tclarkey:
How's this for more information....
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
I'm just saying...not a single one of their Bing'd phones has been updated... I'm not saying it's right.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
Just repeating the info in the OP...
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Kind of off topic, but kind of related to previous posts. . . I don't get the love for the Evo3d. The Galaxy S II looks much better. Also HTC is locking and encrypting bootloaders for sure now, while its unknown if Samsung is doing the same. Also, the Galaxy S II will destroy the Evo3d in benchmarks, as it is already doing:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/13/galaxy-s-ii-benchmarked-makes-other-phones-cry-in-shame/

FYI, the HTC Pyramid in that link is an Evo3d sans 3d and with a lower resolution basically, which means the Evo3d will have even lower scores.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
HTC isn't encrypting bootloaders, just installing rootkits, but since they haven't changed them since the G2 it's already been cracked.

Also the Galaxy S2 has a significantly lower res screen which inflates benchmark scores. Just saying, don't expect it to be significantly better performance wise.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Thanks for posting that, much easier to read than the rdf page.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
HTC is encrypting bootloaders:

http://phandroid.com/2011/03/24/htc...-series-of-devices-with-tightened-encryption/

Also, I do expect it to be significantly better performance wise.
[Epic 4G General] *AndroidMaster*:
The thunderbolt is not encrypted, its all ready fully rooted...check for yourself..http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=996616
[Epic 4G General] wj0t:
I just fell in love with the galaxy s 2 :( i had my mind set on the evo 3d but then i saw that.. we're getting that beauty right?
[Epic 4G General] tclarkey:
Or this....
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
As ridiculous as it sounds, they are wrong. If the Thunderbolt had an encrypted bootloader, they wouldn't have had it fully rooted with custom kernels within 3 days of release. The motorola milestone which is encrypted STILL hasn't been cracked in 2 years due to it's encrypted bootloader.

And you're going to be disappointed then...
[Epic 4G General] mad1111:
Here's a link to an article I found...

Sorry if its been posted already:

http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/6442-sprint-samsung-epic-4g-gingerbread-update

WooHoo¡!!
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
That articles only there because of XDA :P

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] ilostmypistons:
I think many phones may be updated sooner than later due to the fact that Google is not happy with the way upgrades are being handled from manufacturers and carriers . They want the app delvs on a more level playing field to make it easier
[Epic 4G General] FoxRacR17:
Not that impressive, I got tired of the epic and sprint and decided to go to verizon and get the thunderbolt and unlimited 4G while I can. The thunderbolt was rooted incredibly quick and they already have it overclocked to 1.81ghz and getting scores of 2600+ in quadrant. I'm perfectly happy with my decision and after being with sprint for over years I can say that verizons network destroys sprints
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
wonder how long itll take
[Epic 4G General] dcowboys2184:
Ok ..... nice to know ...lol
[Epic 4G General] Patrck744:
mmm.. roaming on verizon's network right now with my sprint phone while not paying an arm for it.
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
So who is epic2.3 ?
[Epic 4G General] FoxRacR17:
Haha just saying, everyone gets their pants wet over these quadrant scores for this dual core phone when there are single core phones out there that get very close to those scores. Also just so people would please stop spreading the rumor that the bolt is this incredibly locked down phone when it was actually the fastest to get rooted and overclocked that i have personally witnessed
[Epic 4G General] FoxRacR17:
Verizon is only 15 bucks a month more then sprint was for me, I use to do the prl hack also but it got annoying to have to bring my mini laptop with me everywhere and go thru qpst to load up the verizon prl. If I'm paying for a service (cell reception) then I don't want to have to jump thru hoops to get what I'm paying for, with Sprint I just wasn't getting what I was paying for, and be careful with that prl hack because if you roam too much sprint will kick you off ;)
[Epic 4G General] ilostmypistons:
Yes who is EPIC2.3 with his one post of joy
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Just cause they rooted it quickly doesn't mean it wasn't locked down. Read the intro to the root thread on XDA:

Also, its not the Quadrant scores that I was caring about at all. Quadrant is a pos frankly. Look at those Smartbench scores. We will see more shortly when Anandtech gets ahold of some of these new phones and does some real benchmarking.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Noobnl. His kind of style: pots internal sprint document about an update and doesn't say anything else.

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] ilostmypistons:
Thats what I was thinking
[Epic 4G General] FoxRacR17:
Yes that is correct that they made the phone look for signitures but look how easily that was overcome, everyone in this thread was linking and saying about locked BOOTLOADERS which is completely false information and that's what I was pointing out, and I agree that quadrant is a pos :)
[Epic 4G General] Dubar:
I never would have thought we'd get gingerbread on the epic before a fully functional cm7...

The more I think about it, I think google is doing their best to get as many devices as they can as updated as possible... if they wanted to put out a 2.4, with all the criticism about fragmentation, it would look really bad to have some devices 2.1, some 2.2, 2.3 AND 2.4. At the very least they need to get their higher end devices on a level ground
[Epic 4G General] SpicyBurrito:
It'd be nice if we got it before evo, but I'm glad we're getting it either way.
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
we may get CM7 first anyway. who knows when this will be fully tested. the nexus S 4g may come out first and the devs use that to complete the CM7 build.

also there is a 2.4 already and its still gingerbread..
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
I hope so too, so I can shove it into my friend's face that we got our update before his Evo 4G (since he was making fun of the fact for the long delay of us getting Froyo).
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
I predict they will most likely make this public around the same time the galaxy s 2 is soon to be released or released in the states.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
That's what I'm thinking too.

Sent from my always stock, EC05 Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] sirens6:
+1 doing the same. Gotta love roam control app
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
How does it work?
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
S**t you wait a lil bit verizon will destroy your wallet. Look at their churn. Which is the customer turn over. It is extremely high because they charge $160 to something near unlimited everything and data caps. Their 4g PLEASE they have it in what 2 cities. A lot of people that switched to vzw for the iphone are switching back to att cuz vzw blows. So don't come here trying to trumpet your horn bout some bs vzw.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Way to go noobnl now this document is EVERYWHERE. ;-)
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
IDK what to think, other than VZW is a LOT better near me than AT&T is. Idk who would want to switch to AT&T. LOL

Sprint is very good where I am (Jacksonville FL), so I have no need to change.
[Epic 4G General] faceless:
or maybe it was all the bashing of Samsung and Sprint that caused them to realize that we want updates for our cellphones?
[Epic 4G General] dchawk81:
Well in that case what's the big deal?

I didn't think Eclair to Froyo was much of a leap. Will I even see a difference between Froyo and Gingerbread?
[Epic 4G General] icreative:
Cool, but date of relese? )= maybe leaked version??
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
Answered this a few post back from yours, definitely Noobnl work.

Either way, thanks Noobnl! This I freaking awesome news. This wll hopefully make CM7 port easier for them guys.
[Epic 4G General] crawrj:
Gingerbread is 2.3. I believe that after gingerbread they will start skipping iterations for full releases. For example eclair was 2.1 and froyo was 2.2 and gingerbread 2.3. Now they are doing honeycomb 3. 0 and ice cream 4.0.
[Epic 4G General] brickwall99:
Yeah right. If this gets released at all it won't be for several months.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
Considering 2.2 just dropped, several months would be a lot shorter than I would have expected
[Epic 4G General] altimuh:
Agreed - I had highly doubted we were going to see gingerbread (officially)
[Epic 4G General] poit:
This is good news because it means that they are TESTING ginger on the Epic. It doesn't tell you anything about a release date.

If this is the first Ginger version it will likely have many versions following it as they debug and add features (or bloat). Now the fun begins, watching as a new version appears every few days. This one was released on the 12th. When new versions stop showing up, count forward 2 weeks and the Monday after that..........Gingerbread release.

I'd be very surprised if any test versions get "leaked" any more. Considering all the whining and dissing of Sprint and Samsung for the delays why would they want to even confirm that they are working on 2.3 until it's ready. I've found that it's always better to under-promise and over-deliver.

Edit.....Hmmm, just had a thought. Sprint recently announced a push to create their own NFC system

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/sprint-says-its-nfc-based-payment-service-will-launch-this-year-beat-ot/

and Gingerbread is required to support NFC. Even if our phones don't have NFC chips in them, they could easily sell an NFC dongle. Perhaps this is the motivation to get as many phones update to gingerbread as possible.
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
The epic 4g went from update debacle to the top 5 most updated phones I can think of. We've had so many builds to say the epic 4g is being shafted is a lie.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I disagree. I think the first number is the device style, 2.x for mobile phones and 3.x for tablets. All reports I've seen call Ice Cream Sandwich 2.4. The second number is the OS version. 4.x would be if they made like a notebook or television version of Android or something like that.
[Epic 4G General] nebrando:
That makes great sense...until you think about what happens after 2.9

Does Android simply stop at 2.9? Can't make 2.10 because that is 2.1 and you can't make 2.11 because that is between 2.1 and 2.2...
[Epic 4G General] altimuh:
Yeah but the same link states that Sprint has been doing trials on NFC since 2007!! Comon 4 years!!! Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see it too - but my hopes are not high for that one.
[Epic 4G General] altimuh:
2.9.1 2.9.2...

2.A 2.B...

or

they jump into Roman numerals like the SuperBowl lol
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I agree. After 2.9, they could also retire the Android moniker or go to like 5.x. Or like windows start going with the year. Android 2020.
[Epic 4G General] bjhill2112:
You may have to view source in your browser to see the underlying XML. Here is the relevant section:

<prf:OSVersion>
Android 2.3, SBAQ6085BSNACAZ4390
</prf:OSVersion>
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Well isn't Ice Cream supposed to be for both phones AND tablets? In all likelihood it could be a 4.x release.
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
I thought 2.4 was gonna be a bridge between 2.3 and 3.0, after that, updates would be for both tablets and phones starting from 3.0.1 or 3.1 onwards.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
If you don't notice a huge difference in both features and performance from Eclair to Froyo you either didn't install optimally or installed the wrong thing ;)

GB supposedly has further performance improvements and a few new features. I'm not going to turn my nose up at it. And I don't think the devs will either.
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
I created a little script that will notify me if there's a new .rdf file. It checks once a day. if anyone wants, I can create a page that's like. "ISTHEREANEPICUPDATE.COM', and if there's not, it will say "NO", and if there is, it will say "YES", and have a link to the .rdf file. Not a big deal to create, and saves a negligible amount of time, but whatever.
[Epic 4G General] edscholl:
I don't think phones are going to be exclusively 2.x and tablets 3.x, but of course they can go 2.10, 2.11, etc. Version numbers aren't the same as real numbers, superficial similarities be damned. i.e. there's 2.2.2, etc, which ain't a real number.
[Epic 4G General] djbacon06:
sweet, do it. please and thank you
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
that would be sweet!!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Ya, and besides, even if he didn't post this one(which I'm sure he did), he's the one who found the page links of previous builds in the first place.

Sent from my always stock, EC05 Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
2.4 is still Gingerbread, 3.0.x is Honeycomb. No one knows what the "I" versions number will be, or name. Only guesses.

Sent from my always stock, EC05 Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
I've got some work to finish up, so it probably won't be up until this evening. I'll post back when it is. It's gonna be a .info domain, because they're only 2.99 :D
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Sweet, there is an older one called

http://isgingerbreadoutforepic4g.com/

Which is made by the same people who made

http://isfroyooutforepic4g.info/

Sent from my always stock, EC05 Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
Ha. Oh well. Here's mine, ended up just taking a few minutes. It checks for an RDF for that day every 6 hours, and updates when it finds one:

http://isthereanepicupdate.info

Lemme know if there are any bugs
[Epic 4G General] Mutiny32:
Edit: nevermind
[Epic 4G General] Mutiny32:
Also, Sprint has to update the Epic to Gingerbread because of the coming Nexus 4G. If not, they're going to have conflicts with both Google and customers over why their Nexus with a keyboard doesn't have the same functionality.
[Epic 4G General] castro08:
Sorry if it a noob question what's the different in WiMAX ED24
[Epic 4G General] Dubar:
This. If you guys arent familiar with the way software releases are typically numbered, 2.10 would come after 2.9. They arent doing algebra, they're just keeping track of the order of things.

It is my understanding that Ice Cream is 2.4; Honeycomb, as a whole, just doesnt make sense on a phone (its a lot easier to scale up than to scale down), but some of the features are just begging to be ported. 4.0 would be a long way off, but if I had to guess they would use 2.4 to take some of the features of honeycomb to advance the phone OS, and sort of do parallel updates for a while (2.4, 2.5, 2.6; 3.1,3.2,3.3). I cant even dream about what the hardware will look like, but I think 4.0 would be the point where they would unify the two and have a single OS that works for both. (I could imagine the next logical step would be an atrix-like phone which docks into a tablet). I really doubt you'll ever see a 3.x on a phone unless its a dev port, and I'm sure it would be really screwy.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Nice dude!!! Ill hit thanks when i get on a computer that has a newer version of ie or firefox cause im in the old school version of xda with no thanks button :(
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
I was just checking that out and one thing that I noticed was CIQ 2.0. Does anyone know what version CIQ we have in froyo?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Click the link in the OP, then change he ed12 part to ec05

Sent from my always stock, EC05 Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
Thanks, good to see its the same version.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Yes it is good so it can be removed easily on custom roms :)
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
Lol....yep:D
[Epic 4G General] dchawk81:
Nah I'm installed just fine and it's definitely EC05. ;)

Sure Froyo is better but "a huge difference"? Not so much. I won't turn my nose up at GB either, but the thought of it doesn't make me horny like it seems to for other folks.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Software optimized for my hardware always makes me feel better. It'll ultimately lead to lots of bonuses.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Wow. People in the nook color cm7 thread don't think the screen animations are that important. They suck.
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
Man, it kind of sucks when a animation is the theme point of a release by google. I've yet to really see anything else except misc improvements that make 2.3 worthwhile. I definitely want it, I just guess I haven't looked too much into the improvements. My Evo worked great with CM7, but didn't offer too much over CM6 except in terms of graphical enhancement. I probably didn't own it long enough to enjoy the full benefits or educate myself. Anyone care to elaborate?

This is one of the reasons I think Samsung and Sprint are so eager to bring the update to fruition to us users. Its a simple update for a release from google, that doesn't pertain much changes to the code to warrant it being tested for months. I think we will see the release the first or second week of next month.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Ugh..sorry to break this to you (and probably a lot of people) just because were getting gingerbread doesn't mean we get the screen off animation. For ex. Gingerbread on the Droid X and Galaxy S2 don't have it.

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] ThrIsNoSpork:
Just run cm7 and you'll get the animations ;)
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Its like the unofficial apps mod on the captivate. Its in the build.prop or somewhere around there but not in settings. When you root any 2.3, you can enable the anims.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I thought screen off animations were kernel deep? Maybe it was something else..

Sent from my always stock, EC05 Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
I'm willing to bet I'll have my EVO 3D with 2.4 before the Epic gets 2.3. Of course samsung will lie about it no less than 3 times before it releases some chopped up version that will be so full of bugs its unusable. It will then be pulled before 30% of users have it, and there will be a few more lies about the fix that will show up 4 weeks later and still retain half of the original bugs while adding a few more. YAY, I bet you guys can hardly wait....
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
Ya damn skippy son!! I can wait and should be much sooner than the evo3D release. New more optimized kernel, code and features. Our devs will pimp it out!! Enjoy your evo3D and I'll enjoy my epic, so hate on:p
[Epic 4G General] b15love:
3D?!?! what a gimmick. :p
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Actually I've seen how 3D works on the Nintendo 3DS, and assuming the phones will have the same kind of 3D, it actually is pretty cool. More holographic in my opinion.

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] bondosho:
Is that guy's username his phone number?
[Epic 4G General] snowmanwithahat:
... I like having viewing angles greater 5 degrees
[Epic 4G General] bondosho:
I also think it's in their best interest to get the Epic off of 2.2.1 because of the security threats.

Friend of mine has a Transform, and that's even on 2.2.2
[Epic 4G General] midnighttoker:
LOL, how many angles do you view your phone from? I view my phone from 1 angle at all times(about 12 inches directly in front of my face) and if you say anything different then you're just full of it.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Well the 3D is intended for videos and new games, and last time I checked your looking straight at the screen when doing either of those. Believe me, its better than you think

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Meh....if its anything like the nintendo 3d screen, ill gladly pass. Its not really 3d as we know it (the stuff doesn't pop out, its more like the background goes in)...and its a pain to look at. Eye strain galore lol. I found myself having to look at it crosseyed to get the effect.
[Epic 4G General] rando991:
I'm really hoping the next update (Gingerbread) finally fixes the Time Without Signal Bug (make the phone CDMA preferred or something).

I'm also hoping they can remove the services DRM and SNSService that eat up battery life.

Over the rainbow wishing: give me the ability to force roaming like the old sprint phones could do--purely for a battery saving measure when I'm in a very weak aka 1 bar Sprint signal area (I'm unrooted so I can't use Roam Control).
[Epic 4G General] Muckrak3r:
Unlike all previous builds, I won't be updating to GB until a working final release drops. I'm very happy with EC05 and don't care to rush anything. apps on sd and flash were the only things this phone didn't have when I got it that I needed. I have something like 1gb in apps on my sd card. (amazon free daily app is a huge cause of this).

Not trying to TC, but the whole Android situation is crazy. Different Android versions, different screen resolutions, different processors, different internal memory amounts, different types of radios, etc. etc. One of the major things Android is missing is Netflix streaming, and because of the lack of uniformity in Android, Netflix is cautiously waiting and raising the bar to their own level of hardware standards. It's very sad that we Epic owners will never see a legit release of their app, considering how powerful our phones are, and the iPad and iPhone have had streaming for quite a while already.

You would think Samsung would have an edge over other phone manufacturers as far as speed of update release goes. They have 4 phones that are nearly identical on different carriers. But Sammy seems to bungle every update and have huge delays. Another problem built into the frequent updates that Android OS has, is companies like Sammy want to lag updates to legacy phones. They have already sold those phones, and the second it goes off the shelf at retail, that phone is no longer their priority. Instead, they want to release their next-gen phone that has a built in impetus for consumers to desire an upgrade or improvement. The easiest way for that, is to release new hardware with new OS versions. So if you want GB, you pop for the new phone.

I'm still glad I waited for Android before getting a smartphone. Even with all the issues, I feel Android is the vastly superior OS. If every manufacturer and carrier would soldier through updates faster and more uniformly, Android would be an unstoppable OS in the smartphone market.
[Epic 4G General] Dubar:
What youre describing is 3d "as we know it".... hate to break it to you but that's the way it works, its not meant to be popping out, but to have definition in 3 dimensions, its not 1985 anymore. If you're one of the unfortunate people who can't process the information without a strain, you can turn that feature off, but not everyone experiences it that way and for some of us its very cool and exciting.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
What does this discussion have to do with GB? On topic, please. Evo 3d has its own threads and forum.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Shutdown animation is in /System/Media/Video/Shutdown. It's a series of .png files. The Nexus S Ginger version is floating around in the development forum somewhere. If you are rooted you can use ES Explorer to swap the Shutdown folder out for another one. I don't think you need to a custom kernel although I've never tried swapping this on a stock kernel. I don't worry about the animations because I never shut my phone off. :D

Sorry, guess I misunderstood, thought you were asking about shutdown ani.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
This person your quoting meant the TV off ani when going into sleep.