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[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Bravo! (standing and applauding) :D

But seriously, your right. There's so much take around here and not enough give. Me personally, I don't know a lick of code, so I donate my time, my phone, and a little $$ every now and then where I can. Hell, before I stumbled across SDX after I bought my Moment, I thought flashing a kernel was hanging your bare ass out the window in the KFC drive-thru. :p
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Yes Please dont ruin my thread with whining and *****ing, i only posted this to warn beta users to flash back while the can so they dont have to deal with going to the sprint store or not having tep and paying out the ass for a new phone.

Im not whining as many of you know just giving a heads up to save some people some hassle :D
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I haven't noticed any whining in this thread, however there were a couple tolls.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Tolls?? lol

U mean trolls :D
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Yeah, didn't you know, Tolls like treats.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Oh dear god dont bring up those treats i dont want any trolls wanting tolls or treats :D
[Epic 4G General] ghostrid3r:
To bonsai, No. I just submitted bug reports when mammon was using code-google.com. I don't need a donation button next to my avatar nor do I need to be a fanboy and personally attack other users to get my point across. Lol

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
That was my intial thoughts as well, but it later proved to a red herrring. My personal opinion is that something changed in the ec05 code that we are unknowingly disturbing. I think there is some other issue that we are trying to track down and for the record I'm still running 4.1.0 and have no intentions of flashing back.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I second that, still running great for me also.
[Epic 4G General] Quis89:
Yes...Sprint should be giving YOU a loner phone because YOU bricked YOUR phone.

That makes perfect sense...thought about this?? If YOU hadnt have rooted YOUR phone and loaded a rom that was never approved by neither Sprint nor Samsung...YOU wouldnt be in this situation? Whats the point in being upset with Sprint for not providing a loaner phone when YOU put yourself in this circumstance??
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
The cwm that was from rm isn't the same cwm as the one in Bonsai 4.1.0. The rm one was majorly borked and the one in Bonsai works like its supposed to.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
I agreed with you and thinking it had to do with kernal tweaks or battery charging, i thought bricking usually has to do with kernal stuff? No??

idk just some thoughts..
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
omg get the f*** out of my thread, and stop the trolling... :mad:
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Sorry, but I'm old school and consider the rom as the whole shebang. I think their delving into the initramfs and kernel today. Fortunately Randy_T is at an embedded linux symposium this week and is getting some additional help.

The variable results (in bricks/number of beta dl's) suggest that something else is at play here. Perhaps all those who dl 4.1.0 have stressed their phone and only the ones with manufacturing tolerances on the low side have let the magic smoke out....
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Hope you get a replacement for free bro ... just BS a rep act dumb and get the ugliest rep in the store and try flirting if everything else fails
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
What do you mean I bricked my phone. I never rooted it or anything. I got a pop up that said an update is available and I accepted it. Next thing I know the phone shuts off and now it is unresponsive. How is that my fault. LOL. thats my story and Im sticking to it. Even if you do t have tep and Said that wouldn't they have to give you another phone for free?

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
I dont know about battery charging cause I don't plug my phone in. I just put in a charged battery from my external charger. So how would that brick my phone? I wish I knew. It must have fried it as soon. As I hit the power button with the fully charged battery in it.

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
That'll work if you get a stupid rep... i had my mom do it for me she actually was clueless about what happened and she's a little old so they didn't question her much....
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
And definitely not when you are stupid enough to lose your phone...maybe that shouldn't be covered either...dude we get insurance so we can do these stupid things like add custom ROMs, lose them, leave them in the cart in the supermarket, drop them in the toilet and see if they float. Please grow up and join the real world. I am donating in your name so you can have the new beta....please!

Do you BONSAI?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Top Nurse may be onto something. MH you said your phone wouldn't even run at 1.2Ghz. And what could actually destroy the chip code for the bootloader? Maybe it is weak chips since all circumstances were completely different and at 1.12Ghz the phone ran benchmarks like 1.3 Ghz.

Do you BONSAI?
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Just got a replacement, like i thought, if could of fixed it, i would, so got a new one trying to odin the new ec05 tar and came to a blue screen, so maybe ill just odin eb13 since i know that works..
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Robbing is considered theft...rooting a phone isn't. You still pay for everything and the insurance company makes profit.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Hmmm...so maybe there is something with that EC05 update, perhaps the Sprint ID or Sprint's attempt to block rooting. More people have trouble going to new ROMs from EC05 stock.

Do you BONSAI?
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
i was actually trying to come from d118, as thats what was on the new one they gave me..
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
I odin'd to eb13, rooted with 1 click, and flashed directly to 4.1.0. I did that after noticing some odd behaviour after doing the eb13 to ec05 ota and then installing 4.1.0

The odd problem I had was waking up to a fully charged battery on my phone that had somehow turned itself off...
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
1. Use OTA that doesn't wipe data but has many system changes

2. Flash ROM that doesn't wipe data but has many system changes

3. ?????

4. PROFIT!

;)
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
im going to odin the full rooted eb13 then just upgrade the modem, right now im downloading it at work and my phone is stuck on the connect to the computer thing..
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
what r u saying here.. lol im a little lost :o
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Ok, so i keep getting blue screened in the middle of odin flashing on the prerooted eb13 and ec05 should i try the d118 again in odin?

I use to flash odin all the time on my old phone, this replacement wont let me odin :(

Any thoughts or suggestions would be helpful thanks!!!
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Use the eb13.tar from the samsung.exe file. I wouldn't use the pre-rooted one if I were you as that has been in the discussion as a possible source of problems.

Others went directly from di18 to 4.1.0 without any problems.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
is that still posted somewhere ??
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
On my computer. If the di18 doesn't fly to 4.1.0 then send me your email via PM. Alternatively I also have the ec05 tar.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Stock cable ? ... buy another ALL of my problems went away with Odin i am like

7/7 right now works everytime
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
im downloading d118 tar as we speak will take awhile, ill give that a try, maybe your right the prerooted one doesnt work, but its weird it used to going from d118 to eb13 on my old epic, another weird thing with my new one is that when its charging when off the battery meter comes off then looks like the screen goes to sleep and the red led light is off, probaly because there is no rom on it now... considering when ever i turn it on it takes me to connect to computer thing...
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
no its not the stock cable, its another brand one, if i cant get this to work here at work with this cable ill try the stock one and the other one i have in my car, maybe this new is more picky idk, it does register in odin so it does read on the computer.. ??? not sure whats up im sure i will get it up and running soon.. i should of just left it stock til i got home, but oh well..
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Yea bro that blue screen thing was my problem also and it turned red too... but got a new cable and the rest is history
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Thanks bro, after i try d118 with this cable, if it fails ill try another cord thats in my car, then if not then ill try the stock cord which is at home and if all comes to worse ill go buy a new one.

on that note any reccomendations for a new cord that i can get at radio shack or best buy that are really good for no more then 25 bucks??
[Epic 4G General] Paleryder:
Intresting I know they pulled 4.08 for some type of charging issue also
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Hehe it was the cord, lol i just used the eb13 with the cord in my car and it froze at modem, then i tried again and it passed :) time to mod stuff :)
[Epic 4G General] p3dr0maz:
Ran with 4.1.0 from Friday til Monday no problems. Used my wall charger to full (blue light) every night. I was going to stay on it but I didn't want to risk it. I still think I probably would have never met the condition to brick my phone or I would have already gotten there /shrug. Countless power offs and on's testing theming changes. But I decided to error on the side of caution and went back to 4.0.1 til further notice.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Curious where you get your info from because I don't recall any of the beta's being pulled for charging issues and I tested all of them from 2.x.x on. Of course maybe I forgot something along the way. :)
[Epic 4G General] p3dr0maz:
4.1.0b8 was up on bonsaigeek for a little bit, like an hour, idk [i downloaded and flashed it myself] and after they told us there was some new charging code that was in there that they were not ready to release. Shortly there after they put up 4.1.0b9. We still have the messages about it in our inbox over there too.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I always use the prerooted eb13 and never have a problem.

Do you BONSAI?
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
ya me too, but new phone had weird issues with a cable of mine, so i used another one i had and finally went through.. im enjoying shiny phone with eb13 rooted for now til i have time to flash mods, roms and what not, im really loving that my keyboard doesnt wobble any more :D
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Yes, We were told the 4.1.0b8 had an issue with charging and to not plug it in and to flash b9 asap. Only like 12 of us got the b8.

Do you BONSAI?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Hey cheer up will ya :-) B-)

Do you BONSAI?
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
i am cheered up, i really happy, the bricking of my epic was the best thing ever :D lol
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Other question does bonsai upgrade the modem for you or should i go through odin like i did in the past, just curious as i never updated the modem via rom b4??
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Yeah, your jubilance shines through. If you are going to 4.0.1 you have to flash the EC05 modem with Odin. Got conflicting reports on 4.1.0. I think the beta still needed you to Odin the EC05 modem but they were gonna try to put it in the final release. Flash it and check. If it still says EB13 then you need the EC05.

Testing a theory, were you able to overclock your old phone? If so how high?
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
i didnt test it really, i did 1.2 for 10 min, but i never really did it longer to know how it worked so couldnt help u there..
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
S'okay...was just testing the weak chip theory for bricking. So now that I have seen truly bricked phones I would like to suggest phones stuck at SAMSUNG as being "sponged"...whaddya think? ;)

You going to 4.0.1 or gonna push your luck again?
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
Good to hear guys getting their epics back and better than before....I should've bricked to dang it!!

This I believe goes to show, if your to cheap to spend $7 a month on insurance:-) ...DON'T HACK YOUR PHONE!!

Side note; I've seen two confirmed replaced, MH and davidrules. Can anyone confirm how the rest are doing? Just curious, hope all works out for them.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I went the more expensive route...Best Buy Black Tie service plan for $9.99 a month and no $100 deductible, no refurb replacement, and no limit to replacements. I may have to try it out....where is that 4.1.0b9 file.....?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I am real anxious to know the explanation on this. I was not aware that software could actually have some instruction that would burn out the boot loader somehow. It must actually cook the BIOS.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
4.1.0 will update to the ec05 modem IF you already have DI18 or EB13 only.

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Were not positive it screwed the bootloader per se. A voltage regulator is also a distinct possibility. We really don't know what happened until we pop open a bricked phone and see if any components have let the magic smoke out. If mine bricks it will definitely be cracked open.
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
Same here, I'll be awaiting something to confirm what the true culprit was.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
would u like it???
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
My phone has entered this "bricked" state twice this evening. So far I've been able to recover from it both times.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
OK, so the software controls the voltage setting on the regulator for overclocking and undervolting and may have gotten tired of all the exercise. That makes sense to me. I am old school electronic tech and we didn't have all this magic control with software back then.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
really??? how'd u do it, the sprint people couldnt recover mine or i couldnt either :confused:
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Hehe...still got it...I am a software packrat! I even have the BAD b8 version.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Really? No lights, no Samsung screen, no red charge light, no bananas (oops)? How did you get out of it?
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I turned it off to flash a zip in CWM, and of course it didn't turn back on. So I pulled the battery and put it back in. Still, nothing. Next I tried different key combinations to no avail. Then I hooked it up to my car dock with the battrey out. Tried a couple more key combinations, put the battery back in and it booted into CWM by itself.

The second time was just a few minuets ago. I turned it off and it wouldn't come back on. Went through the same whole song and dance as the last time and finally it booted. The last thing I tried this time around was hold the power button for an extended period of time with the battery out. Popped it back in, and hit the power button and it booted again.:D
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Pushing the power button with the battery out dumps any electrical charges in the phone.

Btw, for those who bricked their phone: did you try to push the 1 key and power on key (even with screen blank) and then attempt to connect to odin? Just been wondering if the screen is off, but the phone is active...
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I had suggested to one of the bricked victims to hold the power button with the battery out, he did it for a minute and still nothing. Strange.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
So they figure out what exactly was causing the brick with Bonsai ?

Had to be part of the Kernel/ Battery mod right ?
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Damn I tried all that with my phone. I held power plus one while putting the battery in. Plugged it in and tried it. I tried everything I could think of but I don't have a dock

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
How come you guys get to have all the fun? I'm always doing stuff to see if I can break these beta's... sob sob snif
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Lol..... it sucked at first but it worked out a lot better for me in the end. The sprint sales rep said I was the only one that had trouble with the ec05 ota. Lol

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] ajmcedar:
Yes, many times between yesterday afternoon and now. That and any other combo, battery, no battery, connected, not connected.

Just waiting on my replacement to get to the store.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Your store didn't have any epics in stock?

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] Kitteh298:
I had that happen before. Don't remember when or what the circumstances were though.

From My Samsung Epic Using TapaTalk.
[Epic 4G General] ajmcedar:
All stores in town need to get replacements from the warehouse.

2 days on my old Katana :(
[Epic 4G General] a2tz:
Tried that also. Didn't work either. Nothing I did would make it do anything. I also tried every combination of battery pulling and inserting and odin'ing connecting I could think of. Nothing....

All back and working though now!
[Epic 4G General] decalex:
I'll try this-- I did notice a few times ,post-brickpocalypse, that the phone was warm, and thought it was odd.
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
I'd like to see a policy that such posts will be promptly deleted by the mods, and result in infraction points against the member.

Sent from my mind using telepathitalk
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Why? He brings up a valid point and a lot of us have said the same thing. If you want to use your TEP for something you did that's cool, but don't flaunt it...at least not in public. :D
[Epic 4G General] richse:
So with that line of thinking, is the grocery store ripping you off because they don't sell you food at cost? How about online shopping, they make a profit and you have to wait for the item to come in the mail (WHAT A RIPOFF)! You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what being ripped off means and how business works.

Also, NASA doesn't really hire mathematicians, they don't have a lot of use for them. You were probably thinking of Astrophysicists or Aerospace Engineers, but that wouldn't have worked for your analogy so you just made up a "fact". Bravo.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I have a choice where I buy my groceries so no the stores can't rip me off. Online I can chose if I want to pay for "express shipping" and get it the next day if I want.

And yes NASA hires Astrophysicists and Aerospace Engineers (mathematicians/statisticians also, not that Astrophysicists and Aerospace Engineers are not mathematicians in their own right) , and if you add them to all the scientists in the all the other space programs in the world, you would still have more mathematicians/statisticians in the insurance industry in this country alone. The house always wins.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Wow, I'm glad I'm not on Bonsai for this update. Last time I used Bonsai was back on DK28. ;)
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
The update wasn't a public release.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
It was public on the bonsai site, wasn't it?
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
No it was for beta testers only.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Oh.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
From what I understand, roughly 100 people took part in the release and roughly 10 reported bricks.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Yeah, I'm still doing everything I can do to try and brick my phone on 4.1.0. Not having any success as yet...
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I think it's just a matter of time. ;)
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Lol I leave for a few hours if this thread and there is a fricking NASA comparison to mathematics crap what the hell is going on as for top nurse yes u may brick any day now I'm really loving my new phone :)

Sent from my Epic 4.1g bonsai plant
[Epic 4G General] richse:
I forgot that when you get a phone they hold a gun to your head until you buy the insurance. Silly me, you really don't have any choice in the matter. Regardless, you said that it was a rip off because they make a profit. If you find a grocery store that's not trying to make a profit let me know where it is so I can buy all the groceries possible before they go out of business.

You clearly have very little idea what an actual mathematician does (i.e. someone with a Ph.D. in Mathematics). They are not the actuaries and statisticians that the insurance companies are employing. You would find very few engineers who consider themselves actual mathematicians. Engineers tend to be much more about practical applications of math while the Math guys are way more about the theory.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Are you serious? Do you have nothing better to do but troll in a thread that apparently has nothing to do with you or your phone? Of course they don't hold a gun to your head, but your an idiot if you don't buy the insurance. The phones cost $500 and we use them for everything everyday. They break all the time. Heck, I've returned 2 this year already for bad speakers. The problem is that you have no choice of who to buy from as there is only one company that has a monopoly on the industry. I'm not gonna split hairs with you about what different scientists do in their fields. The point is the insurances companies gouge us just like the oil companies and the drug companies and pretty much every other company that has something you have a hard time going without.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Wtf is going on with all these trolls in my thread its like somehow I'm holding troll food in here or something :(

Sent from my Epic 4.1g bonsai plant
[Epic 4G General] epic4GEE:
What did someone say they have troll food....I want some:-)
[Epic 4G General] richse:
I wasn't trolling, I was bothered by you advocating ripping off an insurance company because they make a profit. I really don't think it's ok to defraud any company, even if you don't agree with their business practices. That was the whole point of the first post I replied to. I guess I went overboard picking apart your analogy but it seemed like you were using it to justify your point.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I don't believe I ever advocated ripping off an insurance company. I'm just not gonna have a pitty party for them when it happens. What comes around goes around.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
So I have been having some odd behaviour with some of my apps showing a black screen. This started after I hooked up my external battery to a 100% charged phone. Cleared data, but still no joy so I flashed 4.1.0 again...no fix there either. Maybe I'm starting to get some results from my beta testing. :D

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
U and trying to brick it lol are u trying to get a new phone like mine ;)

Sent from my Epic 4.1g bonsai plant
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Well, I did scratch the screen while testing out gorilla glass without a screen protector...

Actually I odin'd to eb13 and reinstalled 4.1.0 a few hours ago and everything is copasetic again. :(

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G General] danasmith2816:
I thought we were off of 4.1.o till the bugs get fixed??
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Wow people taking up for insurance companies. Sure gas prices are just fine. Lets pay 5 dollars a gallon. Quit trolling damn.
[Epic 4G General] JettMartinez:
Top Nurse is staying on it to try an figure out what's actually causing the trouble. I believe recommendation is still to stick with 4.0.1 if you're not looking for a paper weight.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
SHUSH! The grown-ups are talking!