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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k3lcior:
No you did not bricked your phone, just follow the guide:

http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-htc-desire/

If you installed CWM Recovery with Unrevoked then skip those steps:

1. Download the recovery package

7. Select Apply sdcard:update.zip (This should launch the recovery package).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
i restored what ii backed up using recovery! nandroid back up! now im on the home screen!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
im so afraid, im looking for the original htc desire froyo uk rom to install.. and if i install that rom will my phone will be unlocked or still locked?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k3lcior:
Second ago you said that you rooted the phone and want to install ROM, now you are saying that you restored nandroid recovery...

What you want to do? :confused:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
actually, i wished to root my phone and install original htc desire rom, and i rooted using the noobs guide and they said that before flashing any rom i got to do a nandroid backup! i did that, when i clicked restart my phone, it was stuck at htc image, then again i went to recovery, select recover using previous backup, did that now its on home screen!

now i want install original htc desire froyo or gingerbread rom for my phone! i mean the uk version.. now im stuck with orange uk rom...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k3lcior:
1. Guide to flash ROM's:

http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-htc-desire/

If you installed CWM Recovery with Unrevoked then skip those steps:

1. Download the recovery package

7. Select Apply sdcard:update.zip (This should launch the recovery package).

2. List of ROM's:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=809328

3. Restoring nandroid:

4. If you want to unroot and go back to stock:

http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-unroot-the-htc-desire/

What are you saying is kind of confusing (orange UK ROM?), so i just gave you all guides.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
what will happen if i hard reset my device? and i need an unmodified rom, the original untouched htc desire rom! and how to overclock my device? what about the sim lock?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k3lcior:
1. You will wipe data from the phone. (make sure you place your nandroid backup from sd card to safe place on the computer first)

2. Then look on step 4 i posted earlier. (unroot and going back to stock)

3. To overclock you must be rooted, use SetCPU.

4. Your simlock should be untouched.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
No No, My phone is running on the orange uk stock branded htc desire rom, now i wanted to change to original unbranded htc desire uk rom!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k3lcior:
Oh sorry i never had a branded phone so cant help you, just wait for someone else to help you and in mean time search the forums and you will probably find your answers. ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
why should i go back to stock rom? i meant if i hard reset my device, will that affect my root permissions?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k3lcior:
No, as i said it will just wipe data on the phone. (if you mean factory/data reset)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
thanks, thank you so much for your help! i was so afraid to do anything! well can you suggest someone who can help me in getting out of this orange branded rom and go in for the original htc desire uk rom!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] perangbintang:
For branded phone it's better to create a goldcard first so you can safely flash other rom instead of the operator's rom.

See the desire index in the development thread for more info about creating goldcard.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] undercover:
In the Rom thread look up froyo rooted Rom, put it on your SD card. Go to recovery, wipe all (everything), go to flash zip, find froyo rooted zip, flash it. You might have to toggle verification off in recovery before you do it.

Don't have time to offer live chat at the moment, if that fails, just do your research mate.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] undercover:
No need for that, you only need gold card to flash stock tons or ruu. Let him stick with rooted froyo, should be good enough.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
thanks friends! ill try that!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
guys, my phone is still locked to orange! do i need to unlock before continuing installing new roms?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] perangbintang:
IMHO it's always a good idea to create a goldcard for branded phones for a safety measures.

better create it while he still can, not when he's having problems and his device is unbootable :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] undercover:
Agree. But i believe there are ways of creating it without phone (might be wrong, never created gold card myself).

Guy looks confused enough tho :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
i couldn't find the official htc desire rom with boot sound enabled! and if i install a new rom, will my phone will be unlocked or still locked to orange?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
can i use this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=869048

just help me in this guyz, pls!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] perangbintang:
No..don't use that without a gold card cause it's a RUU not designed for your branded phone.

Basically when you're rooted, you can use any other roms including custom ones. If you decide to use stock WWE rom and get rid of your Orange one, look for the one that's already rooted. Don't use an RUU (original stock rom from HTC) especially the WWE one or any other RUU not designed for your operator cause you will need a goldcard for it (your device is branded).

The goldcard i mentioned above is for safety measures if you want to go back to stock rom by using an RUU (Rom Update Utility) especially if you want to use RUU that'a not designed for your operator (like if you want to use a World Wide Edition (WWE) instead of your Orange rom). By running an RUU means your device will go back to stock...just like it was released by HTC. Sometimes this is the only way to unbrick your phone.

If you just want a stock rooted froyo, then this one is pretty good. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773997

If you want custom roms, there're so many you can choose in the development section including Gingerbread ones.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] perangbintang:
Yes i read somewhere there's a way to create a goldcard without a phone. But if the guy is confused by just flashing a rom, then i think creating a goldcard without a phone will be too much for him :-)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
there are many links, i just want to get a rom with no issues, which runs as smooth as the original stock! and with the link you gave, there are 3 versions, which one i should use? i dont know anything about this, help me pls! what about the radio? do i need to flash everything? im damn confused!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] perangbintang:
you can just just use the 2.29.405.2/5 INIT.D ROM v3.0 | v3.1 - NEW! (the 2.29.405.5 ROM) from that Teppic's thread.

or again....any other custom roms in the development section. just check in each of the rom's thread, cause every rom have some additional stuff which you may (or may not) need. i recommend trying one with A2SD+ support, cause without it i'm sure soon you will have a low space internal memory problem (cause desire only have 147MB memory for apps by default and that's pretty small).

you don't need to flash the radio, cause i think your device already using the newer version.

just don't forget to do a nandroid backup first before flashing the rom.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
i did everything, now running on the froyo rooted rom, love it, used set cpu for the first time, too good! no crappy apps from orange! thanks guyz! well what about 2.2.1 or 2.2.2? are these available for desire? how to unlock my device from orange?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] undercover:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=943726
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k3lcior:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=943726

Here you can remove Simlock. ;)

// tinky1 was first. :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
thank you guyz, did everything!

now my in menu, sd card is unavailable.. dont know what to do, help me!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Hey guys,

is it stupid to root my device just so I can have more space,

I don't really care about flashing roms right now (I probably will eventually, for fun etc) but how much more extra space can I really get out of my desire?

So far, non-rooted, I have around 15Mb free.

What are your guys' user stats? How much free memory did you have and how much do you have now after rooting? (internal, not external - I have an 8G sdcard).

Can EVERYTHING really be put on sdcard by rooting?

Cheers! :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ArmenianFlasher:
just 5 minutes and you can flash everything and customize your phone by 100%
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] perangbintang:
rooting doesn't give you more space, BUT it will give you access/permission to use additional mods that will add more space.

basically to have more space you need some script called A2SD+/Data2SD/Data2Ext/Data2Whatever etc that will use some partition on your sdcard as a place for your data (instead of the internal memory by default). this way you can have more space for apps and not limited to the default 147MB space.

but to apply those scripts in the stock rooted rom require more steps, so people tend to just use a custom rom that already have those scripts built in the rom. search in the development section about this scripts for more info.

the more advanced step is to S-OFF (Security Off) your device so you can modify the partition table. by default Desire only give you 147MB space for apps in internal memory. with S-OFF, you can modify the default partition table so it will give you more internal memory space for apps. but to use this you have to use a custom rom that have a specific partition table recommendation. for example...with Oxygen ROM the system is so small that there will be unused space in the system if using the default partition. and that unused space can actually be used for data/apps instead. so the amazing devs here create ways to modify the partition table specific for Oxygen (or some other roms that have nealry the same size) that will give you 337MB internal memory instead of the default 147MB. many other custom roms have their own partition table recommendation such as CyanogenMod etc specific to their own size. check http://alpharev.nl/ or http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=794314 for more info about S-OFF.

and this thread (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=992176) and this (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=806321) also has good info about custom partition table.

but please make ABSOLUTELY SURE that you know what you're doing before applying those things.

oh yeah...just for comparison. i use Oxygen 2.0.3 with its partition table and A2SD+, around 200 apps installed and from 337MB internal storage, i still have 140MB free.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
guys, i recently rooted my phone, well actually android nor the clockwork recovery is not able to read my sd card.. i googled, feels like its usb brick! i dont know how to reenable .. mine is s - on.. im really new to this! pls.. help me.. for re-enabling i tried the code fastboot ............. .. but still its not able to read
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izelhaiku:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1038708 i tried this!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Thanks so much! Very useful info. :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fred_be9300:
I started off like that as well.

I used "teppic74's" stock Froyo ROM, and used his modpacks to update Google apps & facebook in the system memory (thereby not taking space in data memory). That wasn't enough, so I also ran the A2SD modpack.

(btw, in recent weeks, he's not updated a few of his google/app modpacks)

Especially A2SD saves quite a bit of memory, although it still leaves application's data files on the data partition (which is 147mb unless you use S-OFF & other partition sizes with other ROMs).

If you have a LOT of downloaded apps (100+) or some that use a LOT of data (e.g. GPS maps, or so), you may then need to look further to save even more space... There are a bunch of more exotic ways (Data++, Data2SD, Data2Ext, etc) to move more/all data to the SD card. I haven't gone there yet - I'm fine now on memory.

You can see what you need, but if you don't want to leap to far at first... this is a good way to start
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fred_be9300:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773997
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Hi guys,

So... I reckon soon I will

- root my device with unrevoked

- s-off with alpharev

- partition my sdcard with gparted (does this automatically allow for App2sd? Or do I HAVE to flash a custom ROM for this?)

- create a nandroid backup.

If I don't flash any roms, then my original stock rom will still be all in tact, right?

All of my apps will not be deleted during all of this procedure, right? (I know that my sdcard will keep my songs, photos etc safe - basically the whole sd card).

Edit: Nevermind, found out about Titanium Backup or MyBackUp

I want to do all of this basically for my space on the desire and freedom to edit splash screen, boot animations, changing the size of system partitions etc. :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fred_be9300:
Partitioning SD card will wipe it, so backup

Making ext3 partition will not activate A2SD

You need a ROM with A2SD included. Many custom ROMSs have that. See e.g. link just above
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
How do I put A2SD+ on my device (once partitioned, rooted, s-offed etc)?

(Not installing a ROM which already has it included).

And if I want to install a ROM later that already has it, will it be affected by the fact that I have it already?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] undercover:
You don't need s-off to flash roms, well most of the roms. If I was you, as you want to stay with stock (fair enough, you can always add mods yourself), i'd just flash stock rooted with a2sd. Say that one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=789058

Benefits are that you can flash latest kernels, which improve battery life, add mods ( i still miss some of them as i'm on gingerbread now), customise, apply themes, change fonts, colours, looks, you name it. I suppose above mentioned rom is a good base if you want to try mods/improvements later on.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Allezxandre:
Root is the best thing your phone could get

I did not rooted my phone first. But then, you'll see memory going lower and lower,... and you understand that you can't keep 120mb to store all apps:(. That's why I rooted my phone... for a2sd+. And then, when you've rooted your phone, you see all possibilities that root offers, and you don't regret. You even don't loose warranty : make a NAND/Titanium backup of ROM and Apps, apply RUU, and recover warranty (it worked for me).

Good luck !
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zaher.bahouth:
i cant live without it

i think u should :-)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nateboi81:
Definately. Apps to SD is pretty important with the crappy internal memory. Always fun to try a few custom roms with a nandroid backup to be safe of course!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Thanks so much for all of your help guys!

I guess it's settled :)

After exams my phone is getting a seriously needed upgrade!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRZN:
Sounds good, I was going to post that you should. Will def help take another step to get involved more with your phone. :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
What apps should I immediately download when I have successfully rooted?

I've heard about Busybox and Superuser and Titanium Backup and ROM Manager.

I don't really know much else.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tanclo:
perfectly excellent answer!

read read and read. and do like hansel and gretal and leave bread crumbs so you can trace your way back.

write stuff (i use my email and save as draft so that i can easily access it at any time from anywhere) write down your steps and links and so on. study and then when you are confident go for it

having said all of that - you don't need to write anything down if you go over to unlockr.com and do the unrevoked thing. then do the alpharev thing.. it can easily be finished in under thirty minutes.

short answer - should you root... why haven't you rooted yet?

well well. most roms come with busybox and superuser i think.

miui-- miui-- miui---

after flashing your first rom, get titanium (free is ok) then you hit the 'problems' button on first run

it will update busybox

then restart it

then hit problems again.. and hit update superuser.

that's it

rom manager isn't essential if you ask me, but you can install it for easily naming your backups and for fixing permissions if you ever run into that eventuality or need (i could be wrong here-- i think it is rom manager that does this)

having said it.. you hardly even need titanium unless you are going to do many rom flashes and updates (most likely once you get the hang of it :-)

don't worry about bricking...

most every event is recoverable

dangerous events are when you are flashing a radio i have heard.. never interrupt a process either

every other situation is recoverable with some time and effort.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Regulation7:
Hey feedesire, I bought mine from Thailand from HTC and had it only for a few weeks. Used unrevoked to root and put the starburst rom on as it's apparently quite stable with the ext3,ext4 partitions. I did go in fearless and there really isnt much that can go wrong. I travel allot and have put tonnes of games on, that's my reason for rooting. It really is a great device and the reason can be an afterthought :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Hey all!

I have successfully rooted and s-off my device.

Really simple actually :P

Can't believe I was ever that scared :D

Just waiting for a new SDcard to partition and then start flashing the love!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Normanjhicks:
Use iRoot APK+

Use iRoot APK. You can use both windows version and mobile version for done that task easily :).
[Fascinate General] gogreenbay07:
I tried the Thunderbolt for 2 weeks and returned it and this is why... its about twice as thick and ALOT heavier than the fascinate. Battery wouldn't last all day when I barely used it while my fascinate would easily last 2 days with little use or a full day of heavy use. The screen on the fascinate looks a lot better than the thunderbolt. Another thing I noticed was that the thunderbolt was always a lot hotter then my fascinate even when it was at its regular clock speed and was regularly at 110 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. So if anybody is thinking about getting the thunderbolt I hope I saved you the $35 restocking fee.
[Fascinate General] SOTK:
Nice to hear that the grass isn't always greener! :)
[Fascinate General] chefthomas99:
You just saved me 500 bucks.
[Fascinate General] Tkun:
Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).

Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
[Fascinate General] TheSonicEmerald:
I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
[Fascinate General] gogreenbay07:
Hopefully they will update the Galaxy S II a little more often then they have been doing with the fascinate but I think Samsung's hardware makes up for everything :)
[Fascinate General] xain713:
Im probly still goin to get one :o I would like more oppinions tho some ppl love it and some hate it xD I won't know till I try it my self
[Fascinate General] piizzadude:
I havent had 2 weeks worth of trial with it, but my Daughter just got one. As with every phone, it has it's ups and downs. I agree with most of the OP, but it has some positives. The front camera for one, the 4G for another.

It is like heaving around a brick though in size and weight compared to the Fascinate.

I am not switching to anything anytime soon, but I would still wait awhile to see what the community does with the customizations before i would choose anything...
[Fascinate General] deaffob:
ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...? :)
[Fascinate General] nmyeti:
hardware isn't everything... source is everything.
[Fascinate General] ataranine:
I rooted mine.. hardware is nothing with crap software and no support from the manufacturer whatsoever.
[Fascinate General] deaffob:
LoL person with no knowledge of android development.
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
[Fascinate General] bigtlt:
I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.

OTB'd CM6 FTW
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
I was actually messing with a TB yesterday and I think it is pretty cool but not cool e'nuff. There are to many big dawgz coming out soon, and like you said 4g is probably 2 years from my area...! :(
[Fascinate General] deaffob:
Actually you were serious but you realized you were being stupid so you are trying to cover yourself up. I would trade it I can fyi.
[Fascinate General] micellis:
That might be because the fascinate is framerate limited to ~60 fps, it won't go above 60, even if the GPU could run it faster
[Fascinate General] crookshanks:
Battery life for me has been similar to my fascinate and it was worth switching just to be able to use data while I'm using the phone. My area won't have LTE for another year but I use a lot of data and getting an unlimited plan while verizon still offers them seemed prudent.
[Fascinate General] 420fan:
and the lack up support is what I'm dying for. J/K, but really I would never buy another samsung, anything!
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
Dude did you not see the ":)" at the end of my comment? Couldn't sense the sarcasm and now I'm stupid? Drop it and stop being a keyboard gangsta.
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
On another note, I didn't get to mess with settings to much, how is the external speaker on the TB? I assume that big blingy grill behind the kickstand is for sound?