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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tineras:
I just got mine yesterday and the first thing I noticed was the light bleed. It is worst on the left edge toward the bottom and on the bottom edge in the center. It's most noticeable when the screen dark(er), but is still noticeable sometimes during general use.

In an ideal world, I would simple get a replacement, but it's next to impossible to get one right now in the US. I'd rather have the device and just try to overlook the problem, but I'll see how I feel after a few days of use.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Thanks. Sounds same as mine, except I have some on the right edge too.

Anyone NOT got any bleed, however slight? If they all show some degree then I'll keep mine rather than exchange.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brachiopod:
It is so subjective, but I would say that I have minimal bleed on mine. There is a little bit visible on a black screen at max brightness along the bottom with the tablet oriented in landscape with the ASUS in the upper left. I have not noticed anything under normal operation, which has been at about half brightness. I would never have really remarked on it at all except for this thread. It is a very nice screen compared to the other tablets I've used and I'm happy with it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david4533:
Ive got one that looks similar.

Ive attached a horribly taken picture of mine.

i have some light bleeding on the bottom right and left.

also a bit in the middle top and bottom.

basically every corner but the top left in the picture.

Hopefully in the next 13 days someone will have some in stock and i can exchange/return.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustindw:
Thanks for the picture david4533!

So, are there any readers of this thread who are NOT experiencing any light bleeding? My wife just received my Transformer at home, so I'm anxious to get home and check for this. I just wonder if all/most of the first run units will experience this.

(I'm hoping that isn't the case - and like mentioned previously, the thread hasn't yet been hit by a TON of people stating they are having this issue)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ethan503:
Mines at thw bottom left too. I think i might rma. If its the case for everyone then ill keep it
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Looks like it may be as all seem to have some in the bottom left in landscape. Mine has it everywhere except the top edge of the screen. Still, only really affects me when I'm watching movies. The shop I bought from are exchanging it next Wednesday but I'm really unsure whether to go ahead now. :confused:

Hopefully someone with none will appear on here :) Mind you, for those waiting for theirs, I don't think it is a showstopper at all, so don't let it put you off
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david4533:
in addition to the bleeding i think that my right speaker is louder than my left by a noticeable amount
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] L0$t$0ul:
Because of this thread. Decided to check my gen 1 iPad and it looks like this picture.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fubar65:
i have the bleed issue too but I could care less. I won't be in a dark room with the brighness all the way up too often so it doesn't concern me. I love this tablwwt, and I'm sure the iconia suffers the same screen bleed.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustindw:
I just got home and checked mine... it has similar bleed but it is far less noticeable in person. I don't see myself taking any action with it. The screen looks really nice otherwise. I will be doing some more comparisons (in general) with the soon to be returned Xoom.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seshmaru:
I have a SLIGHT bleed halfway up the middle on the right side. By SLIGHT I mean i have to be in a room with all the lights off and brightness up to 80%+, and even then it's tiny and barely noticable.

EDIT: Then again it's still less than the iPad 2 screen bleed :p
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CalvinH:
I haven't one, but I have read this very same thing several times (one speaker being louder than the other). I guess you are not the only one.

Regards.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Yeah, mine too, so it seems to be a design 'feature' :) I guess it could be easily solved with a balance control in settings.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustindw:
Quick update: After using it throughout the evening, I can't say the bleed is super-noticeable at all in normal use scenarios. I certainly don't keep my brightness at 100% (where it can be noticeable). Typically, I keep it on Auto - or if I need a boost, I bring it up to 50-60%.

I did notice one or two very feint green sub-pixels that were lit on a black image/screen way down at the bottom edge, but the only reason I saw them was because I had my face right up at the glass at one point looking at the bleed... so again, not even noticeable when my eyes are at a normal viewing distance.

I took some pictures of the Xoom and Transformer side-by-side at some moderate angles, and the difference in viewing angles is astounding... I'll post some pictures tonight when I get home from work.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marco_s86:
light bleed

ordered my transformer on the morning of the 26th from staples

received it yesterday and as I had expected after reading so many people's comments, massive light bleed !

i am so disappointed. How can ASUS ship out so many faulty devices?

Now I have to wait until staples restocks in order for me to get a replacement :S

does anyone actually have one with NO bleed?

it seems like every single one has a problem.

Asus has to man up and fix this asap before it destroys their popular launch
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustindw:
Does your light bleed look like it is in line with what was described earlier in the thread by those who posted? Is it a lot worse? (you used the term "massive" so I was just curious)

Do you notice it, even at lower and mid level brightness settings?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msw1382:
I get a good bit with the brightness upwhich is enough for me to request a replacement when there is enough stock.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donatom3:
Wait Staples actually sold it?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
Heh, I see someone asked Asus on Facebook about this, their reply was:

"We are not aware of a light bleed issue."

But someone upthread said the Ipad did it as well, so perhaps its ubiquitous.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustindw:
What is the URL to the facebook thread? I'd like to mention that mine is bleeding as well and see what they say (if anything).
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neoprimal:
I have tried 2 test programs and am not seeing any bleeding on my iconia tab.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
As the other posters asked, what is 'massive' light bleed? Pics are needed. I'm the person who posted a picture of his device earlier in the thread (people thought the bleed was bad, but I pointed out that pics are always worse than in the flesh) but even I'm unsure of whether to return mine as the bleed is only seen on a black screen and the screen is perfect in every other regard. I sent the pic to Asus however, and they said that the bleed shouldn't happen. Mind you, they probably aren't going to turn round and say, yeah, that is normal' are they?

Good for the Iconia. I'm pleased for it :p
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
Here you go: http://www.facebook.com/asusuk/posts/150956144970399 :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Knight77:
Guys there is Light Bleed... a lot. Both me and my friends that bought it found the problem....

here it is:
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
I'm not seeing any light bleed on my shoes either, which is about a relevant as the Iconia Tab when it comes to discussing the Transformer! :)

Regards,

Dave

P.S. No light bleed on my Transformer either!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brachiopod:
As a photographer, I see that in order to take a picture of it you had to overexpose the characters. That means that the screen is turned up a lot brighter than it would be if you are actually using it. I don't see how that would be visible on a normal not all black screen and with the brightness set to a normal usable level. If you take you shot shot so that the characters are not overexposed, you will see what your eye would see under use. I could take a really long exposure and make it look really bad, but that would not be what your eye would see.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gordec:
It's not really an issue as long as 99% of tablet usage is not in pitch black room looking an all black LCD image.

Ipad 2's had the same bleeding issues. It's not a true defect, just a part of the expected outcome of the nature of LCD technology.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CalvinH:
+1 on this.

I don't think this is a big problem, since normal operation of the tablet won't be black screen with full brightness.

Regards.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ravynmagi:
I haven't been bothered by any visible light bleeding (though I haven't done the max brightness on black screen in dark room test either).

While probably something different, I was wondering how normal this is? On the left side of the screen (in landscape) I can see a gap in the LCD where the back light shines through (imagine I would see backlight bleeding there if I tested for it).
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
I don't know what you mean by "expected" I don't expect it to do this?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markteacher:
And here is my dilemma.

I have a replacement on order, due to be delivered on Tuesday by Comet, because of the light bleed issue.

BUT

My light bleed is NOWHERE near as bad as that in the picture, really only the same as what you can see on the bottom left near the software keys.

The bleed doesn't really bother me, but the fact that it was there seemed wrong in such an expensive item, which is why I asked for a replacement.

It would seem I am at risk of getting one with just the same or possibly worse, and then I am back to square one on the list waiting for another replacement.

Perhaps I will ask the delivery guy if I can check the screen before accepting the replacement.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
That is pretty much identical to mine. And yes, I think the picture will make it worse than it is, but the fact remains that when I'm watching a letterboxed movie in a dim(ish) room the bleed at the bottom left is very visible and distracting.

Like you I'm considering whether to send my back (They are delivering on Wednesday, so I'd like to hear from you on Tuesday!): the chances are I'll get bleed and some dead pixels or suchlike so really need to think this through :D It seems a lot of the screens have bleed in the same place, especially the bottom left in landscape (where it is worst in mine).

I need to stress again that some people won't consider the bleed to be problematic in the slightest.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Knight77:
So you're telling me that the problem is the brightness setting? Which setting do you suggest? Which level?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Fox, I'm really interested to see if this is the case. Have you checked by playing a video with a black screen in a dark room? I only ask as there seem to be a large number with bleed on the left, and if yours truly has no bleed then it gives me hope that a replacement with no bleed is possible.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] L0$t$0ul:
It's a good thing apple fans aren't that picky cause apple would have a massive return rate if they were.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patseei:
unfortunately, we are a picky bunch, including myself. I do have a bit of a light bleed. but Needs to be in the dark room, and I don't sit in a dark room w/ my tablet too often :)

oh well..I will wait and see.... LMK what are ppl outcomes as they exchange, RMA, etc.

I do expected some issues given that even Apple got it with it higher price point :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neoprimal:
They're picky but what choice do they have? lol. It's iPad 2 or, iPad 2?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RedMist:
I took mine back to comet, and replaced it.

If anything it's worse!

However, because the light bleed is all over, its LESS notable than one patch which always attracted my eye.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] checkbox111:
So you actually go into a darkened room, make the screen totally dark and then physically look for errors :rolleyes:

That seems like a real serious day to day issue!! WTF

If i boil a kettle of water, fill up a cup and then drink it, it hurts, but i just don't do it :rolleyes: GAFL
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
I understand what you are saying, and mine has the same problem but it can't be noticed in day to day use. However it is REALLY annoying when watching a film.

I do agree that it isn't the end of the world and that other devices can and do display similar.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
If I really look hard under artificial conditions, I can see a tiny dot light in the top right corner, but only when looking at a very shallow angle.

Under the same conditions, my Samsung Tab shows four larger dots down the left hand side.

However, I wouldn't consider either a "bleed" since under actual operational conditions, this light cannot be seen.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
But why does it happen - is it the size of the display?

My HTC Desire has 0% - NOTHING in total darkness with brightness all at the top.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] checkbox111:
When you go out of your way using artificial conditions to looks for problems try closing your eyes, you may find the light bleed error goes ways altogether.

You could also try putting your device down safely, then running at full speed face first into a brick wall, you may then think that the light bleed error doesn't really matter that much!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Please stop being facetious. The fact of the matter is I can clearly see light bleed even with the brightness at minimum when watching a letterboxed film. What is artificial about that?I wouldn't have mentioned it but the bottom left corner is particularly annoying and other people seem to have it there too.

I'm going to stop writing now as your tone and pathetic analogy/suggestion has made me very angry. :(
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
If you have an AMOLED Desire, it doesn't have any backlight!

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turtlesoup77:
I have a lot of light bleed on mine. Luckily it's only noticeable/annoying when the screen is super dark like watching a video. But since HC and/or tegra 2 is such a PoS and can't play videos, it doesn't really affect me.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmanaenk1:
This thread reminds me of car owners who bother to go through a full bumper replacement/repaint for a tiny scratch.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gmcbay:
The light bleed on mine is extremely minimal, it doesn't bother me at all.

One thing that does bother me more is a dark spot on my screen under the glass. The shape is too irregular for it to be a dead pixel, must be dust/debris or some ding in the panel, but it is *under* the glass (glass is totally smooth when you run your finger over this part).

Here's a pic:

http://i.imgur.com/ynsAq.jpg

The little problem goober is aligned with the gmail favorite stars, right above the first light horizontal line. Keep in mind that this is a very closeup pic so the spot isn't as large as this makes it seem, but it is just big enough to be a psychological annoyance.

If the Transformer were actually in stock normally, I'd try to get a replacement from BestBuy.com, but considering the lack of stock I'm hesitant to lose access to mine for weeks during a return process so I think I'm just going to learn to live with it. The spot is not too big and only really noticable on light backgrounds.

It turns what would have been a "10/10 instant recommendation" to an "8.5/10, buy when you can but make sure you check the panel closely" recommendation...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
If I watch a film in bed (darkish room) the bottom left of the screen has a white splodge against darker colours even at minimum brightness. The screen cannot attain deep blacks because of the more general, less focused bleed and looks a bit washed out. I actually prefer watching at night on my iPhone 4 as the blacks are blacker and there is no light bleed and colours are deeper and not washed out.

If watching films isn't important to you then fine, but don't pretend having a white splodge which grows bigger the more brightness is increased is comparable to having a tiny scratch. The screen is our interface to the device and watching films on this device is pretty much ruined for me on my device. For general surfing etc though the screen is great.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmanaenk1:
^ I watch them on my bedroom TV, via DLNA.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
This is listed as a known issue in the first post of the firmware update thread.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neoprimal:
Don't worry about those people man. Just ignore them. Some people take absolutely delight in tormenting and downplaying issues when it comes to these devices. They don't like to admit there IS a problem, so that automatically becomes "it's not the problem, you are", just ignore them.

Sometimes theres a placebo effect when it comes to problems and some people can really take a mole hill and turn it into a mountain; I think this has jaded and really desensitized a lot of others when it comes to stuff like this.

I like helping people out as much as I can and I remember once on a forum this woman that found every little thing wrong with her phone...she drove me nuts and almost got me to that point where when other people nitpicked I felt like being a jerk and just saying gtfo, alas I didn't.

Your case however sounds like a genuine problem outlined by the fact that at even less than maximum brightness you're seeing the bright light spill through.

My advice is to return the tablet and either wait for a real release in the next coming months or try your luck at a replacement, with the hope that what you get in return is less troublesome. These might just be a really sketchy, rushed batch of stock that Asus released to attempt to offset the Acer release.

These are the reasons I prefer to pick up these 'new' devices at a store vs. ordering them online.

Good Luck and I hope you find a resolution in your favor.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustindw:
Mine is very similar to this. I was watching a 16:9 TV show in it tonight and it was moderately noticeable. I then started a 2.35:1 movie and it seemed a little bit more noticeable. I am guessing that it was due to more black screen being present.i

When doing anything but watching videos, it is almost goes completely unnoticed.

I am unsure if I want to deal with returning it to Amazon and waiting out more availability or not... or wait a bit and try to deal directly with Asus later. I have a feeling that could turn out to be a really bad idea and a hassle. I wonder how easily it would be to get them to replace the screen down the road under warranty. That of course means sending it back in for an undetermined amount of time as well - which could possibly be worth it.

It will be interesting to see if people report more and more screens without bleed as more and more stock becomes available.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Aw, crap, I think ASUS must have forgotten to send me the DLNA enabled TV for my bedroom. Do you think they'll send it out when they send the dock? :p
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmoney94:
i got the same exact light bleed on my.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] checkbox111:
You mean you're an Iconia 500 owner, (judging by your posts on the A500 forum) who couldn't wait for the transformer and now you're trying to justify you're own impatience by follow up artificially found problems :rolleyes:

I have to laugh at the irony of someone who would critisise an artificially found problem when owning a device which has an obvious lesser screen quality during day to day usage.

Meaning the Iconia's screen is of lesser quality than that of the Xoom (bad colour rendition and contrast), if that was possible!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dec3ption:
I have similar light bleed to a lot of people in this thread (mostly around the bottom and mid-bottom of the sides). I think I'm just going to go ahead and see if I can deal with it for about a month and if its still bothering me ill contact Asus. I'm just worried that since so many ips devices have light bleed issues that I will get a replacement with worse bleed. Its hardly noticable in 95% of applications and really only bothers me when watching videos so hopefully I can just suck it up and get used to it... :/
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMXO:
I have light bleed all around my screen. Very noticable when booting up the TF.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r34p3rex:
Same here. It's a bit, but definitely not enough for me to replace the unit :p