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[Droid Incredible Android Development] cheez99:
He must have some screwed up towers near him, because I highly doubt a radio flash is going to improve signal that drastically.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dustinb17:
Updating my PRL manually to a Hybrid Alltel PRL is the only way to make my data connection useful at my office. It will literally go from less than 100kbps using *228 to over 1Mbps using the Hybrid.

Maybe it doesn't help with reception but the PRL can have other effects apparently. I know nothing about radios though, so I'll probably just follow the trend...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bigsapz:
Its much better. Recently flashed 11.19 and saw no change. This radio locks GPS a lot faster too

Sent from my Ultimate 2.3.3 Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cheez99:
Again, there has to be something else factoring in here. A PRL ONLY affects signal while roaming. That's just the way it works.

I ask you read about PRL myths and how they really work.

http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/topic/21590-understanding-vzw-228-updates-myths/

http://community.vzw.com/t5/Wireles...el-myths-about-OTA-228-programming/td-p/35995
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Was a strange flash thru cwm, but its working fine. Prl has 2 options, isnt one data and the other roaming? I do both after every flash.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonesh:
I seem to have some interesting behavior as a result of flashing this radio. It looks like my Incredible charges to 90%, then stops charging, then begins charging again once it reaches a particular threshold. All the while, the red 'charging' LED stays lit. Something could just be awry with the phone itself, so I intend on keeping an eye on it. At the moment, I'm using WarmZ 2.2, though this isn't normal charging behavior for that ROM, either. Nonetheless, I'll update if the pattern continues..

EDIT: Well, it's strange, but the phone's finally charged up to a green LED. Not really sure what was going on before, but I'm going to keep an eye on it. Sorry for any misinformation.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] doug piston:
mrbracht,

Thanks for the find and I hope you don't mind but I have added it to my site as well. You can use that link as a mirror for it if you please. Thanks again!

Hboot flashable version

MD5: 6609c2d7cf0420ac23da7554a3c5b575

Radio's

Ad free direct link cause I like you all so much

http://dougpiston.com/files/Radios/PB31IMG-radio-2.15.00.04.08.zip
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_nivesout:
Well I flashed it, and my signal dropped. I was around -69dBm to -75dBm with my previous radio and after flashing I was getting -80dBm to -75dBm. Not a huge difference, but not an improvement, so it's back to 11.19 for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] alanthemanofchicago:
Doug Piston for president in 2012. Flashed the radio. No difference in signal, 25kbps faster speed, (could be normal up&down), but GPS is faster to lock.

Sent from my Warm Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gorilla*:
Flashed, flawless.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] justjayhere:
Works fine.. used bootloader method.

Biggest gain I notice was in the GPS performance.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] silverado9502:
Hmmm well iv tried both methods and neither have worked for me does the recovery version or Rom I'm running make a difference?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_nivesout:
Do you have HBOOT .92?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] silverado9502:
Yea that's the one
[Droid Incredible Android Development] doug piston:
Make sure you name it correctly. PB31IMG. It will also be in my app tomorrow. Can find it on the market.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jimmiet:
PRL stands for preferred roaming list but it also tells ur phone available home towers as well. It isn't only for roaming. Google howardforums and look through the VZW prl threads and ull learn a lot about them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] C Brown:
Well since I've had my Dinc I've been looking at about 2 bars unless I'm in a large city. I used the bootloader version. Worked with no issues and now I'm consistently between 2-3 bars. Call quality is great although it was before also.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
Initial impression, faster 3g, worse batterylife than 11.19. But that could be related to cm7 final which has always given mediocre battery anyway. Im going back to omfgb and will determine if its better then.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tdiman:
Love the flexibility, hate the fact that up until now I didn't know that flashing any .zip could brick your phone.

On the bright side, someone (doug?) could conceivably create a ROM Manager Inc radio repository.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] phaze one:
He did. "Much suck" in the market.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tdiman:
Right right, but I mean download/flash all in one.

-Michael
[Droid Incredible Android Development] silverado9502:
I got it, I always forget ya gotta move the file out of download to the root of the card

Thanks for your help on this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
Well gps also seems to be considerably more accurate. Does the radio have anything to do with that. Lock time is about the same and no diff in signal as of yet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lexus One:
FYI, I just upgraded to 04.08. My signal strength seems to vary quite a bit. Where the 09.11 version seemed more solid and didn't vary nearly as much...

Anyway, I'm using an old Alltel Hybrid PRL that I found on the web...65024. When I dial *228 I get a message from Verizon that I need to dial Alltel cellular to update. So I have to nandroid back to a sense ROM to use EPST and manually add a Verizon PRL, and then it allows me to do a *228 to download for latest PRL. I wish there was EPST for AOSP ROMs. It would make life a lot easier. But my question has to do with YOUR PRL file. How did you obtain it? And could you give me a link (if it is different than mine)? I too have very poor EVDO data rates unless I use this (65024) PRL. I just would like to find something newer than what I have now. I tried Verizon, to see if they would push one to me, but the CSR had no idea what a hybrid PRL file was.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] doug piston:
Nothing to see here. Just a double post. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] doug piston:
I can't control what is done in hboot through an app. You have to do it on your own. Best I could offer is a reboot into bootloader button. The rest would still be up to the user.

Edit: Well rephrase, I know of no way. <-- Not saying much
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dustinb17:
I got it a long time ago as well and avoid dialing *228 at all costs. Going back to a sense rom just to manually flash a PRL is kind of a PIA.

The PRL I'm using doesn't stick if you dial *228 but if you want it I can give you a download link.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Contempt4You:
So far I am getting the same good call clarity I was getting with 11.19 and there is no marked difference in download speeds that I can tell, but like some others have posted, my GPS seems much improved.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] POQbum:
Coming from 11.19 and being someone who uses the GPS multipule times through the day I can say it is not improved for me.

I've noticed as soon as I flash a new Radio the first few minutes it takes very long and is less accurate, hopefully it'll get better because it is much less accurate now and takes nearly twice as long.

As always, this could be circumstantial issues- even though the sky is clear, who knows.

What's for sure is again this radio version has very minimal noticeable changes than any other radio.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] doug piston:
App has been updated to include this radio as well. Cheers:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blkbeltkid17:
stupid question but can i flash this with Clockwork recovery 3.x
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pena020563:
No. Its not a flashable zip. You put it on the root of your sdcard then reboot to hboot and it ahould read it. If not make you sure your sd card id formatted to FAT32 from your computer so thar hboot can read the file ok :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pena020563:
Better signal service than 11.19. went from -82 to -78 with 3/4 bars (I usually got the same but seems stronger signal) will stick around with it for a couple days.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] smtom:
Indeed! Thanks for sharing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Im getting -78, is that good?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] silverado9502:
the closer to 0 the better, mine is at -70 right now, prior was on radio 7.28 and it was -83
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
I was in mid 80s on 11.19. This one seems better. Im aldo at 4 bars almost all day.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bigsapz:
Put me at -82. Up from -70. Pretty impressive improvement

Sent from my Ultimate 2.3.3 Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cheez99:
Actually, that's a decrease in signal.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RebelShadow:
Yep, you want to get as close to 0 as possible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pete_kowalski83:
I just flashed the radio, and so far its more stable than normal for my area. Ill give it a cpl dsys and post back
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cheez99:
So, gave this radio a whirl to see what the fuss was about. Nothing happened. Nothing changed. I have tried 4 different radios now and nothing drastic has changed ever. I am a believer that flashing radios is really pointless for most of the part and if it does anything at all it's strictly due to location or something.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shoman24v:
My thoughts exactly. Not to mention, I don't want to potentially brick my device.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bigsapz:
Obviously I had that reversed. My bad. Too much kush up in it. Heh

Sent from my Ultimate 2.3.3 Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lexus One:
Yes, it is a major PIA to go back to a sense ROM for this. Especially when I have a theme on my CM7 that requires that I reflash the ROM and the theme on top of a nandroid restore. PIA X 3! Man I wish there was version of EPST that worked with AOSP ROMs like CM7...

If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to know the link to the Verizon Hybrid PRL you are using. If it is 65024, or 65133, or 65134, I already have those.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drPheta:
Don't know if it's due to the 4.08 radio or CM7, but my GPS took about 2 minutes to get a lock today before beginning navigation. I might switch back to 11.19.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rynosaur:
What the hell are you talking about? I'm running the latest CM7 with this new radio.

Thanks to the OP
[Droid Incredible Android Development] derickmc:
I flashed the new radio last night... No difference in signal strength at all however, just like earlier reports, GPS does seem to lock quite a bit quicker than the 11.19 radio i was using previously. Thats really the only difference I noticed. I got higher speeds with speedtest.net app, but my speeds are never consistent with that app, so it probably doesnt mean anything.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RebelShadow:
Here is the latest version that I have and you are welcome to it; (65144). Just un-rar and enjoy.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
how come the flashable in recovery has a mac_os_X folder.... seems sketchy to me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
you can update PRL on ASOP. i do it all the time. dial *22899 and not *228 option 2. i just updated to the march PRL

unless CM is adding PRL to there roms...

im on CM7 btw
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rynosaur:
Anything Mac is sketchy, use the bootloader version.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
ROFL!!!!!!

true. just checking out other peoples work before i kill my phone....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
so just a heads up for anyone living in my area of sunnyvale ca. i did not have the best of luck with this radio. went from -78 to -92 ish + or - 4

ill keep it on to see if it gets better or not....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dustinb17:
We're taking about downloading a specific PRL to our SD cards and flashing that rather than the *228 option. This is beneficial to some of is because we are able to use Hybrid Alltel/Verizon PRL's.

Some say there is no benefit to this but I'm not crazy and the difference it makes on my phone is definitely not a placebo effect.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
I used the flashable zip and out worked fine. I saw the mac os x stuff, but I have hidden files turned on on my mac, and figured it was just something from it when I unzipped it. Oh well, it worked anyway. Fist time I've ever flashed a radio through recovery. I didn't even know it was possible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
oooooooo ok. you can still manual prl from cm7 with *#*#4636#*#* right?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lexus One:
That brings up a test menu in CM7, but I don't see any place to manually load your PRL file.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dustinb17:
I can change my Network type there but don't have any options to update my PRL.

As far as I know this is only a feature of HTC Sense and not available on any AOSP ROM. I keep a Nandroid Backup of a Sense ROM just to have the ability to quickly(ish) switch over, change my PRL, and Nandroid back to Cyanogen...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] justjayhere:
**EVO Radio 04.08 (from opening post) Clockwork 2.x version**

http://db.tt/nrYeCMW

This is compatible with CWM2 only.... If you are using CWM3, Boot into CWM3 recovery, locate the CWM2 file (that you downloaded below), flash it (It will temporarly give you clockworkmod 2.5.1.2) so you can then flash the EVO Radio 04.08 file above. When you reboot, it will be back to clockworkmod3.

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=549325&d=1300835217
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
What's the one that updates prl manually?

#778?

Sent from my sexy assistant. (HTC Incredible.)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dustinb17:
Yea, in a Sense ROM ##778
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
What benefits does the hybrid prl offer?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
Latest radio is netting me 2.5mbs down and 1.0mbs up where I used to get 1.5mbs down and 75 up.

Seeing some crazy low dbms at -58 on long island.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RebelShadow:
Well I loaded the new radio and here is my review so to speak, maybe it may help someone or not. While I did not see a huge increase is signal ; (about the same) it does seem to be a little more stable and not bouncing around as much. I have not had a chance to test GPS yet, that will be later today. HOLLY COW did my internet speeds INCREASE. I am almost double in low signal areas and in some areas I am almost hitting 1.8 to 2 kbps. I have never been that high before. :eek:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dustinb17:
For me the benefit is data speeds. At my office using *228 I'll get about 75kbps (horrible speeds). But by using the Hybrid Alltel/Verizon PRL it'll jump to over 1000kbps (1mbps). So without the Hybrid PRL my data is nearly useless and will drop to 1x quite often. Can't tell you how reception is effected though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RebelShadow:
For me it is the ability to make calls in dead zones. I travel all over Louisiana and we where previously an Altel state and VZW was not here. Since VZW bought Altel they are now here but allot of the towers have not been migrated yet so while I have a VZW phone and service there are areas where I get no signal. With using the hybrid PRL I now get a signal in most of the areas now as I am able to use the old Altel towers and the new VZW towers as well as the other towers that had agreements with Altel
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
How do i do that? Im an old alltel cluent also. Thanks in advance.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
This radio is the bomb! I am in a place i normally get 0 data signal. The sauna at the ymca. I now have 2 bars of 3g, this is amazing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RebelShadow:
There is an easy way and a hard way. The hard way would be to go back to a sence rom if you are on CM7 or AOSP rom and manually load the PRL. Instruction are included in the 65144 PRL i posted earlyer. The easy way would be to call cust. service and tell them that you are on a low or no signal area or you cant call in most of the areas you are in and they can push a hybrid PRL to your phone. I am not a Altel customer, I signed up with VZW after the merger so option 2 would probably not be an option for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dpwhitty11:
As an avid user of GPS in 11.19, I can definitely confirm a MUCH faster GPS lock on 4.08.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lexus One:
PRL stands for Preferred Roaming List, just in case you weren't aware of that. Typically with a Sense based ROM you can dial ##778 and it brings up an HTC system application called EPST (Electronic Performance Support Tool). EPST does a number of things. Namely it's what helps control the # programming codes in the phone to allow you to do updates to things dealing with the phones operations, including the PRL file.

The advantage of the Hybrid PRL is when you live in an area where there are closer cell tower(s) that are Alltel and not Verizon, the PRL will tell your phone to prefer the Alltel towers. Because these towers are closer to your location than the usual Verizon alternatives, you will get a stronger signal. In my case it made a world of difference, as I am about a half mile from an Alltel tower, and 5 miles to the nearest Verizon tower. My EVDO speeds went from 100-200kbps to around 1.4Mbps.

Once your PRL is loaded, the *228 option 2 will replace your PRL file. And so you generally don't want to do a *228 option 2 if you are using a Hybrid PRL.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] past_pluto:
The newest hybrid PRL is 65210. Verizon changed me over to it years ago with my old phone and it still pushes it to my inc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RebelShadow:
Do you have a copy of it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AznInertia:
This may be a stupid question, but I've always wondered how an EVO radio can work on Verizon? Isn't EVO for Sprint customers? Why doesn't the EVO radio connect to Sprint cell towers as opposed to Verizon? What benefit is there for an EVO radio versus the regular Droid Incredible stock radio?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ianxcom:
I used cwr3 and it worked fine, I just used hboot method.

There md5 is somewhere in this thread, page 6 or 7 I think. everything seems legit
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lexus One:
Both Sprint and Verizon use what is called CDMA 2000 cellular technology. CDMA stands for Code Division Multiple Access. Other cell carriers use different technologies...e.g: GSM (Global Sytem for Mobile communications)

The benefit is that newer radio updates are supposed to be better...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
so, where is the cwm zip version?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
In the OP:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
Cwm for the prl
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cheez99:
But, they rarely are and it's just mostly fluff.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
That is strictly per user. I saw significant increase in signal and data backed by testing that can be disputed. So for you maybe fluff, for me, stronger signal in areas i had no signal before.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cheez99:
I've yet to see anyone come forward with proof that upgrading the radio actually helped with signal and 3G data speed. I've tried 4 different radios and neither of them outperformed the other one in multiple locations for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Key words, "for you" , my signal went from -89 at my house to -72. I have never been able to get data from the sauna at the ymca in the year ive had my ohone, today was 2 bars 3g. My internet speeds went from 1100 down at my house to 2100. I did not believe it, so i reflashed 11.19 and my sugnal got worse and so did data. For me, this radio rocks, for you, well you must be maxed already and nothing will improve your signal, i must be lucky.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] BenHolliday:
Here is my results of having updated the radio.

HBOOT-0.92.0000

Old radio: 2.15.00.07.28 / 3 Bars

PRL Version: 30067

Signal: -78 dBm to -80 dBm

Speedtest.net: (Look towards bottom for PrtSc)

Distance: 40.96 Miles

1. 0.71D/0.83U

2. 0.76D/0.98U

Distance: 213.74 Miles

1. 0.69D/0.84U

2. 1.04D/0.81U

Complete backup, Save backup and entire SD Card contents to Computer

New Radio: 2.15.00.04.08 / 4 Bars

PRL Version: 30067

Signal: -64 dBm to -69 dBm

Speedtest.net: (Look towards bottom for PrtSc)

Distance: 40.96 Miles (Now 38.76 Miles?)

1. 0.93D/0.37U

2. 1.53D/0.63U

Distance: 213.74 Miles (Now 212.38 Miles?)

1. 1.53D/0.31U

2. 1.10D/0.48U

Tried *228 Option 2 and still have PRL Version 30067.

GPS locked super fast, way faster than before. Prior to update of radio, gps fix would show me out on the street when sitting in house about 40' to 50' away. Now the blue arrow is sitting on the roof right above where I actually am in the house. While using Compas it shows Accuracy of 9' (12/12 Sats) but doubt that blue arrow could be any closer to actual location without sitting on the top of my head.

As stated above by Speedtest.net results, I'm posting a PrtSc. The are in reverse order in PrtSc so top 4 are after and bottom 4 are prior.

Download speed shows pretty good results, upload seems to suffer for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JetBomber117:
Not noticing a huge change in signal, though it seems to be a bit more stable, as far as maintaining a good data connection is concerned.

GPS lock is noticeably much faster. Instead of those 10 seconds where it's accurate to about 300 meters, it just zeroes in on my location almost instantly after launching maps. I'm impressed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] frostincredible:
Just flashed through CWM...that was weird...it worked, but didn't know it was possible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] POQbum:
Update on the GPS, my first post was directly after flashing.

Now using it for a few days (I'm a delivery driver) the GPS is locking much faster.

Also using the mytracks apps when going out for a run - it's pinpointing my location much easier than it was before (or so I think :rolleyes:)

I'm satisfied I flashed it, Signal strength is roughly the same and so is data transfer for me. I'm in a low bar 3G area it always use to hover around -87 to -95 but I am getting some higher -83 numbers I haven't seen before.

Haven't noticed an impact on battery.

Probably not worth the flash for a lot of people, but for some I think you'll notice a positive improvement- although it'll be very subtle.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Contempt4You:
This is not like the old app killer debates or the 3g throttles. This isn't a group of people trying something new and willing it to make their phone better.

There is no placebo in this. Changing the radio on your phone actually will increase or decrease your signal and 3g speeds.

If you notice no change to your signal, then good for you. You are most likely in a strong signal area.

For those of us on the fringes of the Verizon network, flashing radio's may be the only way to have a phone that works reliably.

I don't think that my signal and gps got better with this radio upgrade. I know it did.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] suprafreak1000:
Perfectly put^, thank you.

I noticed my gps and signal change quite significantly as well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jiggad369:
Definitely seeing better signal strength!

And that GPS is right on top of my head. Wow.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SethAC:
What is hboot? And how do I know what version I have?