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[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
The real basic point is insurance is for if we do something to our phone, lose it, get it stolen, drop it in the toilet, leave it in the sun, let a baby suck on it, use it to pry nails out of a board...whatever...that's insurance. If a speaker blows, screen goes dark, volume buttons stick, these should be warranty items.

Homeowners insurance and collision insurance are different. Should a family be homeless because the insurance company denied them a claim for their house burning down because they used a space heater? Should the insurance company not fix your car because you drove too fast through a wet intersection and hit a pole. Maybe you should be picketing outside these people's house when the insurance company gives them the money to rebuild.

Enough already! Go haunt the EVO threads!
[Epic 4G General] Mutiny32:
I would think that even touching the charging code is really asking for trouble, considering how sensitive these phones are to chargers and charger cables. In short, just don't touch the charging code.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
+1

Do you BONSAI?
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Not sure if that's the issue. Were looking at chip level now for some answers. Besides, changes have been made in the electrical circuitry (via software) for some time now by a lot of people.

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
I'm one of the original beta testers so I've been trying to brick this phone ever since the brick reports started coming in. The main problem is we need to field strip a phone that is reported as bricked. Were not positive that the phones were all bricked due to some anecdotal evidence we have.

It bothers us that only about 10% of the people stated they had bricks. That means that 90% of people didn't have any problems.

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I only ran it for a day before putting the Genocide kernel on it. It seems it took a few days for most the bricking to start.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Thanks for telling us you flashed that kernel. Anyone else who had a brick did you also flash that (or any other) kernel onto the stock 4.1.0 beta?

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[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Nope no other kernal then the one that came with it... :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Didn't mean mine bricked...my phone was fine...and thinking the kernel switch might have saved it. Then switched back to 4.0.1 after about the 5th reported brick.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Krap! Back to square one. :(

There has to be some other commonality here we are missing. I just am not ready to believe there are ghosts in the machine.

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Sorry. How about the weak/stressed chip theory? Musclehead said his phone would not even run overclocked at 1.2 Ghz, David is not sure since he only tried 1.2Ghz for 10 minutes....how about the other bricked phones? My phone runs 1.3 Ghz fine, didn't brick but also had Genocide. I know you already are looking at the kernel.
[Nexus S General] extreme22:
so what would be a better choice thanks

i like the htc but that screen from samsung look good

what do you guys think
[Nexus S General] Vandam500:
They are both nice devices. Here is a quick comparison I found that could be useful to you http://blog.etech.com/2011/01/20/nexus-s-vs-htc-desire-hd-review/
[Nexus S General] mysterioustko:
I prefer the Nexus S over the Desire HD primarily due to battery life. HTC as much as I love their products don't seem to place very much emphasis on a lasting battery. HTC Sense is nice feature but it does come with a small performance cost.
[Nexus S General] zephiK:
and delayed upgrades in firmware
[Nexus S General] extreme22:
well i have the HTC D HD this week i will try out the S and see thanks guys
[Nexus S General] Amritttt:
Wait for galaxy s 2 releasing on may 1
[Nexus S General] hayabbusa:
Swaped from DHD to SNS, i would never go back to DHD, love my nexus s :)
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
I have both. The Desire HD's advantages are the big screen and more powerful browsing ability (less lag with Flash and heavy sites). Some people will also prefer the SD card slot instead of the 16MB internal storage found on the Nexus S.

However, on the Desire HD the external speaker has low volume and tinny sound, the GPS is slow to lock, and the video capture is typical HTC mediocre quality. Plus the lack of front-facing camera on the Desire HD may be important to some people.
[Nexus S General] slateac:
Neither.

HTC Sensation

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-leaked-by-vodafone-4-3-inch-qhd-slcd-and-1-2ghz-d/

Fresh off the oven.
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
Come back and post your opinions and experience. It's good to see people do head to head comparisons and find out which they prefer.

Personally, I didn't get the chance to do a direct comparison, but after playing with the Desire HD in the store, I was put off a bit. I know it has mediocre battery life, the screen/body is too big for my tastes, and I don't really care for the aluminum body. It didn't seem like much of an upgrade from my Desire. So I tried the Motorola Atrix and although it has excellent hardware, the software is just pitiful and slow (terrible for a dual-core). So I waited for the HTC Incredible S to arrive, and again I was not really impressed and felt it wasn't much of an update. That left me with the Nexus S, and to be honest I don't like the Samsung Galaxy line at all, mediocre performance and ugly UI. Yet this is a nice phone, really nice. It was all the positive reviews and comments online that swayed me...I'm glad I waited for it and so far it has been really good with great battery life. And "vanilla android" is a treat - factory unlocked, fast and consistent, and I've downloaded all the widgets I liked on the HTC phones.

I'm a happy camper with the Nexus S.

:D
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
Another thing,

If you don't like Sense UI you can flash CyanogenMod on your HD. It is pretty stable.

One thing I really hated about Sense on the HD was the 5-second lag that happened whenever you delete an appointment in its calendar app.

I actually prefer my Nexus S now, no big issues to complain about yet.
[Nexus S General] Vandam500:
Due to new events, I will recommend you wait for the Sensation
[Nexus S General] JupiterDroid:
Me too;)

Miss Sense though;(

JD
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
SAMOLED display hands down, there is no competition here
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
If you wait for another device then another better device will come around by the time you want to get it... and so on.
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
I was actually impressed by the SLCD on the Telus Desire HD, though SAMOLED is still superior by a small margin.
[Nexus S General] pkilla:
Nexus s no matter what its still going get the first updates.......

And the technology under the hood ain't going out of date anytime soon
[Nexus S General] dario3040:
The browsing thing is mainly because HTC implemented Hardware acceleration to some degree, nut if you download Opera Mobile 11 from Android Market its even smoother than HTC's implementation.

And actually the Sd card thing didn't bother me at all, since i never switched Sd cards when i had my hero, and this thing has more memory too ^^
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
Yeah I know about the hardware acceleration but I have faith that this feature will be added to the Nexus S eventually. Opera Mobile was an okay workaround but the app itself is unstable. Skyfire also works well.
[Nexus S General] riz157:
Wait for galaxy s2
[Nexus S General] zephiK:
And he's right. There's rumors circulating about a Nexus 3 by LG powered by Tegra 3.

Personally, I would just stick with the device you have and live with it for a few more months and get whatever the 3rd Nexus Phone will be named.

Nexus phones are more superior than any regular device. Hands down.
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
I think if you want a new phone now, then get it. Google's not going to put out the Nexus 3 only a few months after putting out the Nexus S. We could be told that the Nexus 4 will be coming a couple of months after the Nexus 3 is already here, and so the waiting continues..

Just buy the device now if you like it, then sell it to subsidize a better phone down the road.

Anyways, I don't want to hijack the thread, but just want to make my point that the discussion is about two *current* devices, not about what is about to come out. ;-)
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
But will it have decent battery life? That was one of the big factors for me deciding to go with the Nexus S over the HTC Incredible S. According to the specs of the Sensation, it's a dual-core running at 1.2GHz with a 1530mAH battery. Based on usage with the Motorola Atrix, I'd say the battery life will suck.

And what about bugs or hardware issues? I'm not a fan of the aluminum bodies that HTC is pushing now either. So although I'm a fan of HTC and their Sense UI, I felt they didn't advance much this past year with their "S" variant updated models, so I went with Samsung and the Nexus S (hesitated a bit at first about Samsung based on Galaxy S issues) based on reviews and online forum comments. I'm glad I did and I'm very happy with the phone.
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
Same here...I had the Telus Desire (not HD) which I flashed to unbranded generic firmware and it's a great phone. I was also impressed with the 3.7" SLCD on the phone, much better than I expected. My wife is very happy with it now and comparing the Desire and Nexus S side by side, there isn't that much difference except for the saturation of colours on the Nexus S. Sharpness, and detail of text on both is excellent.
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
The Desire HD screen looked much much better than the ugly yellow tinted screen on the 2.3.3 Nexus S, but with the Voodoo Control app you can adjust it... so now it looks just as good as the Desire HD.

Another thing about the HD is the terrible design of the fragile battery and sim/antenna covers. Very frustrating to open these without breaking them. This may be a deal-breaker for some. I damaged my sim card covers already (on two different Desire HDs)... waiting for a replacement from Expansys.
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
That was before the colour correction Google updated right? As my Nexus S colour is pretty good out of the box with v2.3.3 pre-installed.

Yeah I'm not a fan of the aluminum bodies and clip-on covers. That was one of several reasons for avoiding the Incredible S, Desire S (still upcoming) and Desire HD.
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
The stock 2.3.3 update added some yellow hue to the colours so that it looked kinda crummy. The Voodoo app (which requires a custom kernel) allows you to adjust it to make it look like 2.3.2 or however you wish. I just increased the blue to make it less yellowish and more vibrant.
[Nexus S General] Madell:
I too have this problem, I own a Desire HD atm, thinking of trading it in for a Nexus S ( with amoled) what is the best choice?
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
Well my Nexus came with v2.3.3 pre-installed and there really isn't any yellowish hue to it. So being the curious person I am, I grabbed the Desire and Nexus and loaded a photography colour chart image I have (I'm an amateur photobug with DSLRs) on both and compared them side by side, and to the image on my computer monitor. Both displayed the chart equally well, but both had some tinting, but I wouldn't call either of them ugly for phones. For a calibrated monitor I'd say they're not so hot, but for a small smartphone display they look pretty good.

I read somewhere that there might be two versions of the S-AMOLED display and perhaps one works better than the other?
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
If you want a dumbed down developer phone with the latest operating system get a Nexus, if you want more features and a better UI get something with a manufacturer skin.

If you don't have problems with the capabilities it's all subjective.
[Nexus S General] iJITSU:
I know this: I'll never purchase another phone that doesn't have a front facing camera. Video calling is the future, I love it, and to me it's like the difference between radio and TV. For me, that makes the Nexus S the easy choice between the two. Now, if you consider the Samsung Galaxy S II, Samsung Infuse, LG products, etc then it's a tougher decision.
[Nexus S General] extreme22:
well i will get the S since i have the HD as well i have my eyes set on the HTC Sensation thats if it will work with Rogers ot Fido
[Nexus S General] extreme22:
so i got the nexus s and i must say i do not like this phone,

for one of 2 reasons

1 no zoom what on earth was samsung thinking

2 web bowers not as smooth and fast as my HTC DHD

i like the screen things seem nicer on the AMOLED

but other from that this phone is not for me,

well time to return it
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
It's not a Samsung thing, it's a Nexus thing. I said it already in here, if you want a dumbed down developer phone get the Nexus...otherwise get something else that actually has features. Return it before you're stuck with it.
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
I don't think zoom is particularly useful on a 5MP camera when it is just digital zoom. You can always use free third-party camera apps for that.

For the browsing issue, I agree with you on that, it sucks. It's due to the fact HTC put hardware acceleration for their browser and Google didn't. However you can work around this issue on the Nexus S by using Opera Mobile 11, which has really smooth scrolling and Flash support and NO lag. But I am hoping hardware acceleration on the default browser comes to the Nexus soon.
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
What free 3rd party app enables zoom? I haven't been able to find even a paid demo that does.
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
I agree...digital zoom is pretty useless and it just reduces the image quality. I'd rather have a sharp image and crop it if you need a tighter shot. Or get closer to the subject.

Hardware acceleration would be nice, but as for smoothness, I find the browser is fine compared to the browser on the HTC Desire. So I have no complaints.
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
Try LgCamera and Camera360.
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
Doesn't work.
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
What do you mean doesn't work? Do the zoom indicators show? I had used them in the past with zoom with other devices.
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
Zoom doesn't work, indicators don't show. Zoom is not supported on this device error. Pretty much exactly how I bought the phone, missing functionality.
[General Questions and Answers] scaryprowler:
Hi,

My wife is running the London Marathon this weekend. I'm not. But... I am going to see her off and meet her at the finishing line. Herein lies my problem. SWMBO has got a Desire, I need her to be running with Android app that will allow realtime GPS tracking, so myself (HD2 NAND) and family at home (internet browser) can follow her progress.

Options so far:

Latitude

Gylmpse

RunKeeper w/ elite subscription ($4.99 pm)

The problem with Latitude is that it doesnt seem to perform realtime updates. 15-30 minutes have passed without updating when testing; this isnt acceptable.

Glympse's only shortfall is that the max time is 4hrs. The wifes fit and will probably finish a little while after 4hrs. I dont want her to have to mess about reconfiguring settings at such a late stage into the race though.

Not yet signed upto RunKeeper Elite; not able to comment on it.

Does anyone else have any reccomendations?

Thank you
[General Questions and Answers] iammudd:
You can try OruxMaps to see if that suits your needs. It can upload live tracking to MapMyTracks.com.

OruxMaps can use live maps (e.g. Google Maps) as well as offline maps. However, it was not obvious how to do live tracking. You must first start "normal" tracking. Then, press MENU and select the "hidden" LIVE TRACKING in TOOLS menu. (The Live Tracking option does NOT appear unless you're already in tracking mode.)
[General Questions and Answers] scaryprowler:
Thanks - will try out!
[General Questions and Answers] blitzace:
You can always use seekdroid! it hasn't real time tracking but everytime you press locate it will give you the other phone's location based on GPS on that device.

Try it out :)
[Xoom General] kz810rider:
Well I just dropped my Xoom face down onto a tile floor. I just got done cleaning it so it was bare. I picked it up expecting the worst, and I found nothing. I do have a screen protector on it that has two small "nicks" where the grout line hit, but nothing on the Xoom. That brings me to my question, has anyone destroyed their Xoom yet?
[Xoom General] Ignotus:
my fell out of my car the other day and nothing is broken. no scratches either lol this thing is built strong
[Xoom General] Arun01:
I had mine in the folio case the other day getting out of the car & somehow it slipped out my hand & fell on the ground so hard that I was sure it had broke the screen.But to my suprise when I opened the folio case up there wasn't 1 single scratch or anything!! Then I turned it on & everything worked like clockwork.I love this thing!!
[Xoom General] open1your1eyes0:
Amazing stuff to hear. Of course you guys had more extreme cases than I did. I was holding mine up maybe only a foot or so and it fell flat onto my table with a loud sound. I was really freaked out (knowing how fragile screens can be). Gotta say I was amazed there is literally no sign of anything wrong or even that it fell. Motorola has worked some magic shield onto these things. :)
[Xoom General] burden010:
Oh God this thread has made me happy and nervous. I ALWAYS drop stuff. It's not a matter of *if* I drop it, it's *when and how much damage*.
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
There have been a few reports about scratches and cracks:

Borilla glass my ass!

Cracked Xoom glass

So you can definitely damage the Xoom ;)
[Xoom General] ClydeB1:
Don't try this at home folks.... ;)

Yeah, when I dropped and shattered the screen on my HD2 that cost me a small fortune to replace, I'd hate to know the cost to replace this screen over here.
[Xoom General] Ignotus:
ive seen 200 to 500 dollars right now :( lol still waiting on japan to make parts but with all the stuff going on over there i doubt we will get cheaper parts right now :(
[Xoom General] ClydeB1:
It cost me about $300 just to replace my HD2 screen in deep dark Africa, so this baby would probably cost the same as a new device. One would also have to make sure it is not one of those SHP screens either.
[Xoom General] Ignotus:
that is so lame. i hate having nice expensive hardware that cost a buttload of cash :(
[HD2 General] pvii:
I bought my used HD2 and did noticed that it has very dark screen, even indoor at bright light is hard to see what's on display :(

I firstly supposed it was light sensor, but setting screen brightness manually showed that at levels above 20% brightness remains constantly low, no change. Automate light sensor works, when I cover it screen dims to minimal value, but do not lighten above 20% of full scale too... After that I tried Lumos, the same results. Also tried to change other version of ROM (older and newer official, more custom ROMs) and radio, different SPL, HSPL, even installed NAND Android but nothing helps ;(

I think it is not LCD, because when I soldered a custom LED driver to backlight LEDs they was VERY bright, much like 120% according to normal HD2 brightness adjustment scale.

And when I disassembled my HD2 I noticed that some SMD components on my mainboard are unsoldered or maybe wasn't installed at factory, just near the LCD connector and around of USB port too (from patterns they have to be SMD resistors or caps), on mainboard photos found at this forum these components are present. May be this is the reason of not working backlight adjustments?

Anyone who have spare mainboard tell me please nominals of marked components if these are in place.
[HD2 General] pvii:
Nobody can help me ;(

I didn't find on eBay motherboards for HD2 which ships worldwide, available for US only :(
[HD2 General] motoi_bogdan:
hmm, i guess hd2 uses a pulse width modulation algorithm to control the backlight level. You should try to map out the pins used for backlight on the display's ribbon connector, then trace them to the motherboard. Then.. somehow try to turn on the phone with the display connected and measure the voltage level on this points. This measurement must be made with the display connected and backlight working at "full brightness" or whatever the poor thing is trying to do...

In an ideal case, also measure those points using an oscilloscope and try to visualize the pwm signals on the screen.

In any case, please post the voltage values you can measure with minimum brightness and your maximum obtainable brightness. Also a picture of the waveform measured by an oscilloscope could be helpful but i'll try to manage without it.
[HD2 General] pvii:
Probabil vorbesti romana, nu? Poate o sa ne fie mai simplu sa discutam anume in romana? Am luat acest HD2 de acum torturat destul de mult, sperand ca e totusi o problema software, dar s-a dovedit ca nu.

Cand l-am desfacut prima data am observat ca modulul LCD a fost deja deschis o data si 3 LED-uri din 7 au fost schimbate... Eu nu stiu care e tipul de LEDuri originale, cel mai apropiat probabil e OSRAM micro SideLED LW Y1SG de 0,8 mm grosime, dar ele se impart in doua tipuri dupa tensiunea de lucru, 2,9..3,2V si 3,2..3,6V. Poate oare sa se intimple asa ca daca inlocuiesti cateva LEDuri de al doilea grup cu cele din primul, circuitul PWM sa opreasca cresterea de mai departe a curentului si respectiv a luminantei displayului (acum nu am acces la oscioscop si in cazul modularii PWM cu frecventa mare un voltmetru nu prea ajuta)?
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
Just so other members can benifit from this thread also.

Cheers
[HD2 General] pvii:
Sorry, man, totals will be in English, I promise ;)
[HD2 General] motoi_bogdan:
aahh always a pleasure to find people who take the time and disassemble lcm units :)

i, for my self would be afraid of dust getting inside, but if i were in your place i guess i will prefer a strong backlight instead of some dust in the lcm.

Now back to the problem. I didn't know that some of the led's were changed so that your lcm has somewhat of a hybrid messed up backlight. Voltage is not enough. Some led's will also require various nominal currents as opposed to other. While is normal for a standard gallium–arsenium white led to light up beginning with about 2.7 to 2.9 volts, the amount of arsenium in the junction will determine the max current drawn from the power supply in order to produce max brightness.

So.. we have normal white led's, super bright ones, super duper hyper bright ones or something like that. Anyway all of them can operate at around the same voltage but at various current ratings.

I guess hd2 uses high brightness led's, so the guy (service center) that replaced those 3 led's did a crappy job and replaced them with normal brightness cheap white led's for smaller displays. Exposed to higher currents these led's could either burn out or reduce their luminosity over time. But that's just a theory.

But let me get this right.. i haven't disassembled a hd2 lcm yet. From what i understand there a 7 leds composing the backlight. Are they all the same type or different?

How does the motherboard control the backlight level? Simple 2 wires in the ribbon cable? like 2 pins (+ and -) with variable voltage/current? Or is there a more advanced algorithm, the pwm chip being soldered near the lcm (back of it, on the ribbon cable etc).

I need this info because, the solutions to the problem can vary greatly based on this.