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[Thunderbolt General] LSUstang05:
I've had both. I actually dropped my iPhone 4 for the thunderbolt (and not for 4g, we dont' have that in Baton Rouge yet). And trust me, I feel you on the battery life. I could easily go a day and a half on my iPhone with the battery life. But, to me, that extra half-day is worthless. I don't want to go halfway through the next day and have to recharge. I also LOVE the screen size of the Thunderbolt compared to the iPhone 4.

Now, You can root your phone and just get a custom kernel. You don't need a custom ROM to flash a kernel to get better battery life. Now, within the past day, CyanogenMod has made a MAJOR step forward in coming to the TB. And to me, CM7 is the perfect ROM. It's stock android and it's clean. Much better than Sense IMO. But, to each their own. I prefer android over even a Jailbroken iPhone. I mean, a Jailbroken iPhone is scary nice, but all that a jailbroken iPhone is doing is touching on what Android does STOCK. A rooted android phone is downright scary what you can do with it. And soon, the Android Market will be competing with the same apps that the iPhone app store has.
[Thunderbolt General] DNak206:
Hahaha.. hecka true. If you want to be a lemming, go get yourself an iPhone and post in another area. If you're not capable of charging your phone a bit extra for the perks that this phone gives, it wasn't a good fit to begin with.
[Thunderbolt General] th3_g00b:
i can go about 18 hours and still have like ~50% on moderate usage...thats texting, occasional youtube, games, checking here constantly... i'm rooted and my set up is very simple...READY?

SETCPU

OC 1.6GHZ Performance

Screen Off - 245/245 Performance

works great :) even if u dont wanna flash every rom out there, go with a simple debloat stock rom and get setcpu....its all u really need :) I OC because i like to brag about my E-Peen but u can just leave it at 1024 or even underclock it...ur call but there is ALOT u can actually do to save battery. Just gotta look!
[Thunderbolt General] Stein357:
The Thunderbolt has bad battery life, get an extended battery if you want it to last longer or get an iPhone. Simple as that.
[Thunderbolt General] n2imagination:
I do not think the op is a troll, I do think that they are frustrated with the "relatively poor" battery life of this unbelievable device but heres the thing. You have absolutely nothing to compare it to. There is no other handset out there like this to compare battery life. For all you know every 4G handset released this next year will suck on battery and then you just need to decide if you want 4G or not. If you decide you do not want 4G then fine but get an incredible, get a droid 2, get a droid charge, but why in the world would anyone who has had an android and the wherewithall to get on xda about it go to the most locked down restrictive, tied to a computer software, costly apps, device? Trust me I seriously considered switching to the incredible after having my TB for a few weeks as I too was discouraged by the battery but I know for a fact that custom ROMs are getting 16-20hrs on a charge (so I know it can be done), that HTC is planning to ramp it up to 2.3 by summer (which will improve the experience greatly), and that Cyanogen is at work on a ROM. All that makes me stick with this amazing device knowing it will only get better.

I compare it to this. I purchased the Eris before the TB and realized so quickly that this device was already on older tech and was bogging down to the point that i almost tossed it in the trash. I then rooted it and found some custom roms which made it a bit better. Within a year it was running gingerbread, oc'd, and running so well on Tazz's rom that I could have almost kept it for longer but the TB was too tempting and Verizon gave me an early upgrade.

Either way is fine, stay with TB and wait for it to improve, or drop TB and get another android handset but dropping android and going to iphone is a bad move IMO. I do mobile device consulting and the only people I recommend iphone to is older people or people who have 0 tech knowledge at all and want basically a phone with txt ablilities.
[Thunderbolt General] jkcheng122:
I don't think switching to iPhone 4 is the answer. At least with the TB you can keep a couple of spare batteries with you, with the iPhone you can't replace the battery.
[Thunderbolt General] dirtyfingers:
You crazy! Jk.

I wouldn't trade my bolt for any Apple product in the world
[Thunderbolt General] SevenSe7enSeven:
But with the iPhone u don't need a replacement battery.

I'm not telling him to switch.
[Thunderbolt General] voxigenboy:
i'm in the same boat as you. I love my Thunderbolt but severely cannot stand the battery drain. i bought that 2750mah extended battery from verizon and now it takes 8-9 hours just to fully charge the thing and even then after about 2 hours or so of usage(web browsing, video playing) it gives me the low battery warning.... and last night i even had it at 99% charge right before going to bed.. when i woke up it was at 41% left(with the extended battery)!

this really upsets me and i don't care to downgrade to a droid incredible or a droid x... was thinking about the iphone 4 also just because of all the apps/games i already have on my ipod touch and you can easily watch like 3-4 movies on it before the battery dies. the other thing that i was disappointed in was the fact that this Thunderbolt is currently the premiere 4G phone for verizon but 4G won't even be available in my area until possibly next year(north san diego county).

all i have to say is "damn battery!"

on a side note, one of the things i had heard is that it drains the battery so quickly because of the large screen... i had an HTC HD2 before and the battery lasted much longer on that thing.
[Thunderbolt General] IISiDeK1CKII:
I had the iPhone 4 and I returned it. Android gives you options the iPhone can't. Besides, do you remember the OG iPhone? That beyotch ate batteries like a fat kid eats candy for the longest time until 1.1 was released. When HTC works out the kinks and pumps out an update, this phone is going to rape anything else on the market for a while. You are an early adopter, there are always trials and tribulations, but the thing is, they WILL work out eventually, this isn't a samsung phone.

Just like I was told on the DINC forums when I told people I was switching, they said "no worries, you'll be back." Guess they were right. Don't waste your time, just stick with android. Even if you don't root, you'll miss things like widgets, sideloading, free wireless tethering and the freedom from iTunes...

Oh yeah, and Apple's God f***ing awful notification system, WTF is their problem?!?!? You'll cringe every time you receive a text and it pauses your youtube video. I would say your free hulu, but, Apple =/= flash.

Do what you want, just know, you'll hate it.
[Thunderbolt General] voxigenboy:
actually you can replace the battery on the iphone 4(just like in the ipod touch). i've replaced the screens on those things before and replaced the battery once on an ipod touch.
[Thunderbolt General] n2imagination:
LOL hard! Sorry I dont care who you are, but thats funny.Thats not what he's talking about VOX. He was saying that with the android phones you can carry a spare battery with you places, or traveling and simply pop the cover and put in a fresh battery. Lets see you try to "pop" the cover on the Ipod on the go. :D
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
Ha... You can't even remove the battery cover!
[Thunderbolt General] ddgarcia05:
There is something wrong with your phone. My extended battery will not drop pass 10-15% overnight. My nonextended battery won't even drop at much as your extended battery.
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
Seriously... I know that a lot of people walked into the Verizon store and went home with a Thunderbolt because the rep sold them on it... And some didn't know what they were getting into ... But if you're here on XDA, you probably did your research and like me, was waiting anxiously for the Thunderbolt to drop (after numerous delays and rumors)

We knew what we were getting into when we decided to purchase this phone. It's got new technology, there were reports of numerous issues prior to the phone's release, including battery drain issues. We're guinea pigs, and for most of us here, we consciously chose to be, myself included. If you wanted to be a sheep, you would've gotten an IPhone to begin with.

I'm happy with my Thunderbolt, with the good and the bad. I enjoy tweaking, flashing, and theming it. I enjoy watching the progress of dev here on XDA. If those things did not appeal to me, i wouldn't have purchased this phone in the first place.
[Thunderbolt General] mlin:
I had battery woes with my evo when I first got it but have since been able to get through a full day with use varying from light to moderately heavy (mp3 6+ hours, email, dozens of texts, surfing, 30+ minutes of phone calls, etc). I know they aren't the same phone, buy it sounds like your experiences are similar. What worked for me was rooting, SBC kernels, juice defender. With this combination I get similar battery life on any rom, be it sense, cm7, or miui.

If on yhr other hand there are other reasons to ho iPhone, such as you prefer the os, then you should switch. There is no perfect or best phone or os, just the one that is right for you.

Tapa tapa tapa
[Thunderbolt General] mAlfunkti0n:
The iPhone is an "OK" device after having used Android for the past year and a half. The extended battery with my Tbolt works great, I can abuse it all day long with no worries.

Switch or not, it's none of our business really.
[Thunderbolt General] SubliminalME:
When I first got my TB, I had the screen on ALL the time. If it went blank, I'd push the button and turn it back on. I just had to. My battery life was about 3 hours. I charged overnight, at lunch and then again after work.

Then I turned off some stuff and started dimming my screen to about 40% when I didn't need full brightness. I went to charging at night and then in the afternoon from about 1-3.

Then I rooted, debloated, romed and kernaled.

Now I charge once a day.

Now, given, I don't make the screen stay on all the time anymore, and that's probably helped as much/more than anything else.

But, point is...if you used an iPhone that same way, always powering the screen and syncing stuff, it isn't going to be that hot on battery life, either.
[Thunderbolt General] cvondra:
My wife has an iPhone 4 and she is a very light user has to charge it about every day and a half. You push it and it will die too. Difference is there's less to drain on that chicklet UI'd Fisher Price phone than Android. Personally I think if you are dropping Android for iPhone because of battery length you need to check your mental health.

Enjoy your play phone.
[Thunderbolt General] cvondra:
But with the iPhone you CAN'T switch the battery. Again another fine feature from Fisher Price.
[Thunderbolt General] lilmoney30:
I had the Verizon iPhone for a month and sold that Pos! I had major service issues , like no service for hours at a time. I'm no stranger to tech loving the crap out of this thunderbolt. It's totally up to you , but you will be back on Android once you realize how nice it really was. :)
[Thunderbolt General] GrdLock:
If you don't like your Thunderbolt, then take it back and go get an iPhone. Don't whine about it here and expect people to talk to out of it. You've used the phone yourself. If you don't like it, you don't like it. Enjoy your iPhone.

I'm so sick of these threads.
[Thunderbolt General] DS36:
Can we end this crap thread already

No hate
[Thunderbolt General] jay_993:
Alright.

1. You think iphones battery is any better? Then you are mistaken my friend.

2. Look at another android device. Seems u prefer android so why move to ios? Some popular-er android phones have basically perfect custom roms. I guarantee you.

End of thread :)

EDIT I must admit im surpried to see people bothered to write so much replies...
[Thunderbolt General] churro7:
if and when i am in a 4g environment i turn 4g on only when actively surfing or youtubing or whatnot....when i am not i turn 4g off simple as that

dont need 4g to use google maps etc
[Thunderbolt General] shanetrain:
DigitalDementia, stfd, stfu and mellow out. LOL!!!

OP having issues with the battery, may want to get a new phone, looking for a little feedback. Not a big deal.

Seriously, damn dude. ;-)

To the OP: (I will play the role of Captain Obvious), do what you gotta, at the end of the day, you gotta have the phone that works best for you, and there is no doubt there is some fairly consistent, varying issues, when it comes to the battery with the T-bolt.
[Thunderbolt General] funkybside:
iLOL'd

10char
[Thunderbolt General] ThunderStick:
I hope this isnt considered double positing, but I have said this time and time again. The HTC Charger that comes with the phone is shi#t. Scrap it and get a different one. Mine wouldnt even charge my phone from day one. I used the charger from my nexus one for my TB and it works marvelous. I used my TB charger on the nexus one and guess what DEAD BATTERY on the N1. My N1 never had problems with this until the charger swap.

You make the call... :rolleyes:
[Thunderbolt General] skinien:
Then get the Droid 2.
[Thunderbolt General] cypherx82:
Would I be fine using my Droid X charger?
[Thunderbolt General] Zenwood:
I never got a charger with TB. It's probably a good thing after reading the posts. I'am using the same micro USB cable to charge my TB that I used to charge my original Droid. The Thunderbolt charges in a few hours and lasts a full day.
[Thunderbolt General] royolpunk:
I use either tthe Motorola charfer or the LG charger. Both are better than the HTC one IMHO.
[Thunderbolt General] sublimaze:
eddyo78, if you want more battery life, then get an extra battery. you don't even need the ginormous & fugly extended battery. a regular size battery & charger from ebay ($20) will do. that's what i did with my nexus one and i never worried about a dead phone

if you're tired of android and want something completely different, that is another matter. but judging from your comments, that doesn't seem to be the case. if you already have an ipod for music & games, you will quickly get bored with an iphone. you will definitely miss the tbolt's 4G speed and rom/kernel flexibility

i had an iphone 3>3GS>4 and the battery life was only marginally better than my tbolt's current setup, which i attribute to the tbolt's 4G antenna (i never turn it off) and the larger screen. my tbolt lasts through the day & most of the evening. i have to charge it every night, but i had to charge the iphones every night too. i think if you swapped the tbolt for iphone you'd lose more than you'd gain, especially since you're a seasoned android user and you know the tbolt's potential

just my $0.02
[Thunderbolt General] keepervq:
Qft 10char
[Thunderbolt General] cjmcmillion:
Try My Thread- Might Help

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1029563
[Thunderbolt General] mrpicolas:
How are you going to try cm7 tonight when it isn't even merged into git yet???
[Thunderbolt General] rizzomegav:
Hah. I get 14-20 hours now with the right kernel and debloat.

I hear the iPhone 4 is the best phone in the universe. Enjoy.

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[Thunderbolt General] bigd5783:
Man you bought a Ferrari and your *****ing about the amount of gas it uses. If you want four cylindar Ford go get your little iphone but if you want speed keep your Thunderbolt.
[Thunderbolt General] ckochinsky125:
You cant compare 4g to 3g they are different technologies and with 4g being newer it will take longer to get better battery life. if you remember 3g phones were the same when they first came out with battery draining. I got the tb for 4g I had the iphone and to me it is boring. You cant do nearly as much with customization unless you jailbreak which even doing that is still not near as fun as android is for me. But hey not everyone is going to like it good luck with the iphone.
[Thunderbolt General] royolpunk:
What's your setup?
[Thunderbolt General] rizzomegav:
Bamf 1.5 smartass + stripped ALL nonused apps out.

I freeze all apps I use less than weekly but still like having without downloading

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[Thunderbolt General] userxx:
hmm

OP I do agree will most of your valid points and concerns.

My .000213841688 cents

Basically worth nothing, just my experience....

I had the verizon iphone 4 and jailbroke it. The iphone worked flawlessly. Honestly.

The battery would last 2 full days on a single charge easily. A great user friendly phone.

But.... When it came to data down load speeds, it lagged badly. Verizon's 3G sucks donkey du IMHO.

I don't live under a cell tower so the best 3G data speeds I achieved were 400kbps.

My average was 150-300kbps. For web browsing it was painfully slooooow for my tastes.

Paying 30 bucks a month for dialup speeds was a joke. Also being stuck for 2

years on this slooow data plan, hell no. I pulled the plug on my iphone experience.

My point is no phone and network are perfect. Each have their strong points and weak points.

What's most important to you should be your guide in selecting any technology going forward.
[Thunderbolt General] royolpunk:
Pretty sure that opinion was worth at least 0.03 cents.:)
[Thunderbolt General] McLabia:
Wait, this was a serious thread? I was expecting to see this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

The fact that you can access 4g period is reason enough.
[Thunderbolt General] tsuranoth:
Thank you for saying that. I used to be a RadioShack employee, working across the street from a VZW store. Every day "Sumthins wrong with mah Droid, you fix it",and the customer is a Sprint or at&t customer.
[Thunderbolt General] crazed_z06:
It's not the amount of gas it uses, it's the fact that it has the equivalent of a 4 gallon gas tank.

The "problem" with the TB battery is it's simply doesnt pack enough juice for a device like this. It needs something like a 1800-2000 mah battery ideally.
[Thunderbolt General] MYxdaUSERNAME:
get the 2750 battery and you'll never need to worry about it again...i havent used my phone much yesterday or today but i'm at 49% after 28 hours of the phone being on..i like the feel of the big battery when i make calls, it gives me something to hold on to better.
[Thunderbolt General] xXJay_RXx:
dude if you complain a lot about battery, get an extended battery or root to get the right kernels. im using JuiceDefender and im at 12 1/2 hours with heavy usage. how much more do you want from a battery? O_o
[Thunderbolt General] crazed_z06:
Bought it a day after I got the phone. Took it back a day later. It was stupid heavy and bulky. It wouldnt read the charge level either. It was actually rather embarassing also. My friend had just got an Atrix and his phone had like 30hrs of usage with 30% left and it weighed about a 1/4 of the TB w/ giant battery. I understand the TB has 4G and the Atrix is still technically 3G..

Shouldnt have to do all that for a phone to work adequately out of the box. I called Verizon and complained yesterday and sent me a new standard battery for free. That's not really a solution, but I understand it's the best they can do right now.

I just sold my Droid X for $300 and I think Im just going to get an off-contract Bionic when it comes out. Moto seems to make much more power-efficient devices. If I can get another $300 for the TB, the $600 I make from selling both phones should allow me to get into a Bionic without coming out of pocket too much.

You're right though. I should stop complaining. It is what it is. Constantly crying about it isnt going to help anything.
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
Well said... and go get the extended battery and be happy... I Did:D
[Thunderbolt General] magicriggs:
OP, get yourself an iPhone. Get knocked back down to a 3G device and then when your wanting to come back 4G pricing may be in affect and then now you wont have unlimited 4G for the same as 3G. I strictly got this phone to be grandfathered in at this price. Because all future phones are more then likely going to be 4G. All android phones are crappy on battery if you want to improve battey life then take all your sync off even your Google and Facebook sync. Create a pop email. Take off all your widgets. And just use the app tray. There you go. Better battery life with a taste of iPhone.
[Thunderbolt General] rajuabju:
I use my TB heavily thru the day. Calls, emails, including exchange, internet browsing, plus just playing around on it...

I charge at home work and in the car, never have low battery issues, or have to deal with extended batteries. Once you train yourself to be diligent about charging it's no longer a problem at all.
[Thunderbolt General] ddgarcia05:
Just wait for Miui. By then cyanogen custom kernel should be out. Better battery life and IOS with widgets.
[Thunderbolt General] DigitalDementia:
Why is everyone quoting what has already been said? I mean I'm not trying to piss anyone off here but I think 9 pages of people saying "root and remove bloat" "flash a custom kernel" "get a replacement battery" "get an extended battery" and "try a different charger" pretty much gets the point across, in fact we got the point across 7 pages ago :P

This guy may be having bad battery life but he wanted us to "convince" him out of swapping for an inferior 3G device, this guy is trolling hard and everyone here just keeps blathering on about the same thing. He said and I quote "so if anyone can convince me otherwise, give a good reason to not switch I am 99% sure that I am going to iphone 4."

Granted you've all been helpful and I respect you all for that but this guy doesn't care for our rooting and custom rom/kernels "now you will tell me to root it and try a rom with a custom kernel. anyone who roots knows that once you do it you are constantly looking for the perfect rom. and guess what, you will never find it. with my OG Droid i probably had a new rom every 2 weeks or so. i really dont want to keep doing that over and over." and besides who wants to root and flash a custom rom/kernel when "as for custom roms, i am good for it but as i said they all have ups and downs and i just dont want to keep messing with them once i find a major flaw, something of which all the custom roms have."

I mean obvious troll was obvious on the first page, good advice though everyone and maybe we should work on a thread for better battery life specifically rather than wasting all of our efforts on someone who is "99% sure that they are going with an iPhone 4" better to help everyone instead of a single lost cause.
[Thunderbolt General] doktor buknasty:
Op have you ever heard of juice defender?

Sent from my dessert flavored Inspire 4G via Premium App
[Thunderbolt General] ddgarcia05:
To the angry poster above I actually enjoy reading the comments.
[Thunderbolt General] DigitalDementia:
LMAO apparently umadbro has become the new your gay of the internet eh? Everyone makes ill informed ASSumptions that someone is mad due to the fact they make a post that is different from others? What makes your opinion more valuable than mine? Where in my opinion did I state false facts? Where was I wrong? Most of all how am I angry?

I'm not mad in the mildest way. It's a beautiful day here, work is slow which is nice, I got to get up early for once in months and don't feel like crap. All in all I'm having a relatively great day and am far from being discontented with some trolls mediocre attempt to get a rise out of people. I was simply stating that this information would be better suited in a sticky note rather than in some trolls thread who hasn't responded to any ones generous informative replies since page 4.

I meant no disrespect to anyone, I was merely stating facts. If I have offended you in anyway (which I don't believe I have EVER specifically called you out and insulted you) than I apologize. It was not my intention.