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[Thunderbolt General] Scubastevie5:
4G is up in warren from at least 23/card in macomb MI - Auburn hills - 12 and Mound - 696 area towards brighton area.
[Thunderbolt General] kwiggington:
Lte timeline got bumped up here in indianapolis should be all over the city in a few weeks cant wait
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
Make fun all you want. I notice you never took my challenge of actually posting screen's from the speakeasy website. Anyone who has been paying attention knows that LTE is throwing the java tests off for upload on the market.

But keep up with the ignorance.
[Thunderbolt General] grkdotnot:
um thats only normal in crackhead land. yes only there. if you havent read many sites saying the 4g giving incorrect upload speed well you can stay in the land of well. you know.
[Thunderbolt General] Jazi:
I live in rancho murieta haha, so I didn't see much. However I go to christian brothers so hopefully soon :D
[Thunderbolt General] cpimpjuice2060:
Rep n Manager at Mobile, Al store on Airport Blvd. They are doing training~~~ how to explain the benefits of 4g...
[Thunderbolt General] Killershade:
Says I have coverage where I live. Sitting at my desk with 3G. Feels bad man.

Turning Wifi back on.
[Thunderbolt General] igotjshoe:
I'm in mobile an its been on an off.
[Thunderbolt General] ncwildcat:
Nothing yet in Raleigh or Durham...I am kinda surprised they haven't done anything here yet...

sent from my personal space
[Thunderbolt General] Ji001:
Where did you hear this?
[Thunderbolt General] Mistar Muffin:
4G LTE appeared Columbia, SC about midnight this morning and has not disappeared yet.

*Crosses fingers*
[Thunderbolt General] cpimpjuice2060:
Test Date: Apr 18, 2011 1:42:46 pm

Connection Type: Cell

Download: 9.33 Mbps

Upload: 34.17 Mbps

Ping: 137 ms

A detailed image for this result can be found here:

http://www.speedtest.net/android/46393379.png
[Thunderbolt General] rmoffitt321:
I hope Salt Lake gets it soon. I feel like I've got a racecar that I'm forced to drive at 25mph... I want to rev the engine and get this phone going.
[Thunderbolt General] rmoffitt321:
I remember that day. I'm out in West Jordan and we got 4G one Sunday afternoon but when I woke up on Monday it was gone. If you go downtown you'll notice that there are chunks of 4G and of course if you get anywhere near the airport you get 4G. I'm hoping that this testing they did a few weeks ago means they are ready to throw the switch.
[Thunderbolt General] :
Sweet, verizon announced on twitter that pensacola florida is getting 4g this thursday
[Thunderbolt General] eraursls1984:
I hope Tallahassee, FL gets 4g the same time as Mobile and Pensacola since we're in the same region.
[Thunderbolt General] :
From Verizons twitter. "Tallahassee! #4G #LTE comes Thursday to the State Capitol, #FSU, Florida A&M, Killearn, Bradfordville, Norfleet & Woodville. "
[Thunderbolt General] eraursls1984:
Thanks, I don't use Twitter, but I think I need to start so I can follow some of the devs
[Thunderbolt General] ncwildcat:
So they were testing in Raleigh all last week, but no twitter update today for Raleigh...bummer
[Thunderbolt General] Hockeypuck55:
No sadly not. Its been tested though.
[Thunderbolt General] fwhomeboy:
The Verizon store here in Greensboro said that Raliegh would go online first, then Greensboro. But, another store said "By the end of the year". Who really knows ???
[Thunderbolt General] aldldl:
In Harrisburg & Hershey PA area, it is always for about 10-30 min and one tower at a time. I would not notice it much but it kills my streaming data when swapping (even though I'm not so sure it should do that).
[Thunderbolt General] :
No problem :-) I only use twitter for news and such.
[Thunderbolt General] ece4free:
So all of these areas you are discussing are presumably areas that VZW has on their official list? Or are some of you getting 4G in areas that are not listed as being "2011 markets."

I only ask because I am a bit disturbed by the odd lack of Virginia markets on the official list, and am starting to think (hope?) that said list is more of a PR tool than an official road map. I find it difficult to believe that VZW would just skip over such a huge market initially, especially when all of the surrounding states are being Blanketed.

Also, does anyone have a link to what the LTE antennas look like?
[Thunderbolt General] kkozma:
They've been testing in Dayton, OH for about 3 months now and nothing in the twitter announcements for us. We're right in the middle of two markets that are already 4g (Columbus and Cincinnati). I don't understand what's taking them so long. Just turn it on and leave it on already!
[Thunderbolt General] :
Wish I had an answer for you :-( My town was listed from the beginning, probably cause we are a military town. As for what the antennas look like I'd be interested on seeing some pics a well. I know that some states have regulations mandating how the towers have to look. I think Arizona makes companies design there towers to look like trees
[Thunderbolt General] Legolus:
Mt Laurel , NJ 4g

Mount Laurel NJ has 4G lte all day today, hope it stays on:D
[Thunderbolt General] ctinsley:
State College, PA has been active since Saturday, May14, yet still no official word but as far as I can tell it works all over town. Go figure that they wait till all the students leave town before activating LTE.
[Thunderbolt General] Fourstarzzzz:
I've been getting 4g in my Somerset , NJ work location now for a few days. I also hit a 4g area in Elmwood Park, NJ
[Thunderbolt General] kierandill:
Outdoor unit - they have one that you stick on the inside of a window, too,

http://bestcelldist.com/htc_thunderbolt_all_bands_8db_panel.html
[Thunderbolt General] ERIFNOMI:
I think he meant the towers...
[Thunderbolt General] boristhebladexx:
for 2 days i have 4G in downtown new britain, ct pulling 7+ mbps down, and best buy on the berlin turnpike in newington, pulling peak 14mbps down. ever since the outage there hasn't been any =/ any CT users on here?
[Thunderbolt General] kierandill:
Oh... DOH!

In that case, difficult to tell with Verizon - I've looked on transmitter locator websites and Verizon almost never show up because they apparently lease towers built by other companies rather than building their own.
[Thunderbolt General] orkillakilla:
They were testing 4g all over knoxville, tn the other day. The Verizon rep I talked to said it would be switched on in a couple months

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] getitoutme2:
I had 4G for around 10 minutes in Salt Lake City (Cottonwood Heights area) on Monday morning. I was like, say what? Then it went away and haven't noticed that it has returned. Bizzare.
[Thunderbolt General] GutterIsATool:
They were testing all morning yesterday here in Tulsa, OK. At the peak, I was pulling 20 Mbps consistently. That loud "knock" you guys heard nationwide was my nerd wood hitting the underside of my desk.

Anybody seen any testing in Indy? I would love to have coverage when I'm up there for 500 weekend.
[Thunderbolt General] Adam B.:
Supposedly, they have 4G by the airport. I haven't made it down there to test though. I don't think the track is close enough to get a signal.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do light up more of the city before then though.... At least I'm hoping they do.
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
The LTE panels are on the big ones on the ends

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4289/verizon-4g-lte-two-datacards-wifi-hotspot-massively-reviewed
[Thunderbolt General] K2Boarder161:
Seems that Verizon flipped on the 4G switch in the New Haven, CT area today. :cool:
[Thunderbolt General] ece4free:
Yeah, I noticed that as well. All of the databases seem to have incomplete information for VZW sites. I've been doing my own informal survey using an app called "RF Signal Tracker," And I know what a 1x/EVDO installation looks like, so it comes down to a process of elimination I suppose.
[Thunderbolt General] eraursls1984:
They turned on 4g in Tallahassee, Florida today, I get it at my house but not a quarter mile away at my work, lame. It's also disappointing how slow it is, only about twice as fast as 3g according to speed test and barley noticeable when opening up pages. Maybe its because not all the towers are running, they did say Thursday is when we would get it.
[Thunderbolt General] ncwildcat:
Seeing flashes of 4g today in RTP (Raleigh/Durham)
[Thunderbolt General] Dork6243:
Gainesville FL too as of early this morning, which is surprising considering how small this town is. Without the University of Florida there'd be nothing here.
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
Gainesville is on the list of cities "officially" going live tomorrow. http://news.vzw.com/news/2011/05/pr2011-05-16c.html
[Thunderbolt General] kierandill:
Yes, actually. 5/5 in the afternoon as I left work on the east side of Indy, but haven't seen it there since.

And on the northwest side where I get gas, on the mornings of 5/12,16,17 and today.
[Thunderbolt General] :
Sweet! 4G if live officially in Pensacola, FL. I'm getting 8-12 down and 2 up?! It's faster than my home internet :-)
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Lazer:
Nothing yet in the area of So Cal that I live in yet. When I drive to LA or San Diego I get amazing 4G speeds, so I'm looking forward to it sometime hopefully soon.
[Thunderbolt General] mrbracht:
I was told that in my area. Mankato Minnesota, we won't have 4G until mid 2013. Lol. Wow. I guess by then 5G or something will be out

Sent from a cellular telephone
[Thunderbolt General] kierandill:
Indy east side just came back on right now while I'm on lunch. 15 down, 2 up. Not sure how long till permanent.
[Thunderbolt General] spartan805:
VERIZON 4G LTE in OXNARD, CA(VENTURA COUNTY) yet?
[Thunderbolt General] ajd88:
Anybody live in or around cape cod MA? I havent heard a thing about 4g around here. I know Boston already has it and a couple other places in MA are getting it. Would be nice, it is a popular tourist place so I can see them making somewhat of a effort to get it here in a timely manner,
[Thunderbolt General] spac3m0nk3y:
I live in Rapid City, SD, the town close to Mount Rushmore. We are big tourist stop with a population close to 70,000, but we aren't suppose to get 4G until sometime late next year.

To beat it all, the tower close to where I work/live is overloaded, so on good days I get about 300kbps download speeds on 3G. Most of the time it is under 100kbps though.
[Thunderbolt General] ltredbeard:
I noticed that I had 4G at the international airport, but I've since turned off the 4G in the "Info" menu to save battery.
[Thunderbolt General] LSUstang05:
That's exactly why Gainseville has 4G lol
[Thunderbolt General] Dork6243:
Yes yes I know, however its still a small market I think its pretty sweet that its here before larger markets. And by the way, don't hate I'm no gator fan
[Thunderbolt General] zolazar:
Greenville, SC - Cannot wait!!
[Thunderbolt General] inzandity:
4G being tested in Springfield, MA finally!
[Thunderbolt General] Headshots4life:
They're testing it here in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. I was up at like 3ish this morning and noticed I had 4G signal for the first time, it lasted for a good half hour or so and came and went for like an hour after I first noticed. Haven't had it back since, I hope they flick the switch here soon because I really loved the blazing fast speeds. lol.
[Thunderbolt General] ixmnu2:
Verizon 4g LTE now in the Conejo Valley 91320

Getting 11 mps download on my Verizon 4G LTE jetpack. 5 bars and stable for the last few weeks. 4g LTE still not showing up in this area on Verizon's coverage map.
[Atrix 4G General] plvaulter06:
I just read on AT&T's website that they consider 6Mb/s to be their 4G.

This means that our 4G devices will never be any faster than the iPhone 4 which supports up to 7.2Mb/s.

When I bought my Atrix I was under the assumption that they would eventually make use of the HSPA+ that the phone supports.

If the iPhone 4 is a 3G device then so is the Atrix.

Dear AT&T,

Thanks for lying and using trickery to attract customers. You suck.

PS hurry up and at least enable HSUPA

For all those that don't know, when they enable HSUPA this will not speed up our download connection speed, only the upload. So don't expect much.
[Atrix 4G General] PixoNova:
Link to where they say its 6? I thought it was 14 or so. Forgive me if I don't believe its only 6

Nvm. Just read it. Normal 3G is 7.2. Not HSPA+. HSPA+ has a maximum of 14mbps. 3g is 7.2
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
I was on the phone with AT&T Business today about other issues, and asked about the "4G".

The rep seemed very well informed, told me no towers in my area have dates assigned to them for upgrade to 4G yet, and that I still have some which are not even 3G capable. She also told me they are trying to get their "4G" to everyone by the end of the year, and the download speed is 20mbps. This was a lengthy conversation, much more involved than this short description, but it was very interesting to talk to a rep who actually new technical stuff.
[Atrix 4G General] PixoNova:
Also read somewhere that enabling HSUPA will decrease latency which will also increase download speed. Not sure about that, though.
[Atrix 4G General] brian2220:
i read that also but cant put on finger on where it was :(
[Atrix 4G General] PixoNova:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA

We'll get category 6 HSUPA. even says HSUPA will decrease latency. Which means we'll be seeing i4 or even higher speeds.

OP. Overreact much? Especially over misinformation.
[Atrix 4G General] plvaulter06:
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947

This says in the 'Just how fast is AT&T 4G' faq "AT&T is seeing network speeds up to approximately 6Mbps"
[Atrix 4G General] darkkterror:
What the network is capable of delivering and the maximum speed the device supports are two different things. Both the Inspire and the Atrix have radios that can pull up to 14.4 Mbps if the network is able to provide it.
[Atrix 4G General] sifon187:
THe key word in that statement is "approximately" 6mpbs, it is just marketing. You will barely ever see the full speeds of "4g" due to the physics of networks.
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
like sifon said... and i wouldn't even exactly call it a "marketing" term. It's just going the logical route. They say approximately 6Mbps.... because if they say something like "You will expect to see 10Mbps".... then imagine how many calls they're going to get from people complaining cause they're ONLY getting 6Mbps. And i don't even see why people are complaining about THAT! 6Mbps? on a PHONE?!? Just a few years ago, 5Mbps was the fastest broadband internet connection via cable in my area. 6Mbps is probably still faster than a lot of broadband connections here in the US (except for that one city that's going to be getting Google's gigabit fiber optic internet connection.... lucky f*ckers).

And yes... when they enable HSUPA, we will probably (see? if i said "will" here, me and anyone quoting me would probably get flamed like crazy if it didn't come to pass) see a lot lower latencies and higher download speeds than we currently are. As we all know, internet connections are a two way thing. If you can't get information TO the servers, you won't get it FROM them either.
[Atrix 4G General] Techcruncher:
I have 4g download speed in my neighborhood. (luck me! :p) I pull 4 on average, and 5 rarely. 6 is a marketing speed. You will never see 6.
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
what are your upload speeds?
[Atrix 4G General] PixoNova:
They're obviously .33 still. HSUPA isn't enabled on our phones yet. Not until we get that HSUPA update.

Also, can anyone confirm whether it's 14 Mbps, or 20/22? I keep seeing different numbers tossed around, and I can't be sure anymore.
[Atrix 4G General] vin791:
my phone says H+ on it and 5 bars yet download speed says 500-600 kbps and upload is right around 100. on my wifi at home i have clearwire and i get 3 megs down 1 meg up and my phone says it gets the same 3md/1mu when its hooked up to wifi. do i neeg to go get a different sim card for my atrix? ATT told me i dont need one because the 4G network wont be out for another 6 months to a year (which is misinformation, we have it in seattle AFAIK). but even w/ 3G i should be pulling A LOT faster than that right?
[Atrix 4G General] justdrew:
i can pull 5.5 with a captivate
[Atrix 4G General] brian2220:
i can pull that down and more with my atrix whats ur point ?
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
Think the point is that with a 4G phone, if you're in a 4G area, you WOULD be pulling a lot more.... but due to not having fast uploads, download speeds are crippled.
[Atrix 4G General] plvaulter06:
the problem here is that with AT&T's 'enhanced back-haul program' they are only planning on buying some additional bandwidth and speed (raising it to 6Mbps) for each tower's individual internet connection. So even if the tower is using HSPA+ to transmit data to our phones, it is only going to be as fast as the internet connection that the tower has.

Its like using a really nice Wireless router, and wireless card. While it is nice, it doesn't make your connection speed any faster than an older model of router and card that could already handle your internet connection.

I really hope I'm wrong, but anyone who tells you that your Atrix is going to have a 20Mbps mobile data connection from AT&T is just blowing smoke up your @$$.
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Interesting facts:

128 HSPA+ network in 65 countries including:

95 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 21 Mbps

11 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 28 Mbps

22 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 42 Mbps

Here is something very interesting for the future:

Radio over Fiber (RoF) Communication System - supposedly has d/l rate of 20Gb/s and is equal to the speed of optic fiber. Could be available in 10 years to the public.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vlad_z:
Let's collect some statistics regarding battery discharge rate when tablet suppose to be asleep, like overnight.

I'll start:

ROM - TnT lite 4.2, WiFi On, BT Off, in 10 hours 14% charge drop - 1.4% per hour.

with WiFi Off - around 1% per hour.

I was killing all apps on background before going asleep but this does not affect discharge rate too much, maybe 0.2% and as well might be just measuring error.

What is your tablet's discharge rate?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atb1183:
vegan 5.1.1 clean install, no additional kernel/OC tweaks

lost 30% over 6.5hr of sleep. battery usage shows very little idle time and alot of "android system". i wonder if that means something stayed awake and kept the tab from sleeping or what. o, and wifi was on and awake the whole time too

anyway to put this thing to sleep and last a few days like my HTC mytouch3g when i put it into airplane mode? that phone would drop to the lowest clock speed and sleep with very little battery drain
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schettj:
Why not just power it all the way off? Deep sleep is essentially Off anyway, minus the bootup time.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vlad_z:
Cold start is about 50 seconds. When starting from standby - almost instant.

It would be nice if our GTablet can go into standby and don't lose charge with that rate.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schettj:
Nice, but impossible. Just plug it in overnight. If you want it "always on" you can expect about 16 hours of standby with 4-6 hours of use mixed in. I'm so used to daily charging it doesn't even bother me anymore. Just really happy this thing goes all day on wifi without deep sleep... good enough.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vlad_z:
Well, I am inclined to think that this is a software problem (Android OS). Xoom with HC does ok when in sleep mode. Someone say 3%-4% overnight.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schettj:
Only way it would do that is deep sleep. As in, nearly off - everything powered down except ram, CPU halted.

That's essentially the same as putting your laptop to sleep, vs power down.

The GTab's deep sleep sucks. Not sure what's wrong with it, but it's below the level of android. So it could be a firmware issue. I'm happy with the 2-3% per hour drain when "on" but screen off, connected to wifi, able to generate alerts and alarms.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schettj:
So, my interest was piqued

I use pershoot's UV/OC kernel, keep wifi on all the time, and use softlocker to make sure my gtab *never* deep sleeps. This is on Vegantab-ginger.

I installed batterymonitor widget, and am collecting data.

First interesting tidbit, my "screen off, but wifi on/not really asleep" power drain is 125mA

Given the 3650mAH rating of the battery, that gives me 29.2 hours total standby time in this state.

Working backwards, that's a drain of just under 3% per hour.

You're actually seeing MUCH WORSE than that, at 4.6% per hour (30% over 6.5 hours) so I agree with you, your software is doing something very bad. You can get nearly 50% better battery life by using gingerbread, pershoot's kernel, and keeping it from going into deep sleep :)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n21klin:
my tablet lose near 10 %
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schettj:
Any more details? Number of hours on standby? ROM version? Was it deep sleeping (wifi off, clock/time not updated until a few seconds after power on?)

Assuming 8 hours or so sleeping, this is much closer to the expected 1.125%/hour discharge rate for "deep" sleep, or about 90 hours total on deep sleep standby.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atb1183:
if that was indeed true (that you manage to get your tab to sleep for 8 hrs and only losing 10%) then i want whatever you got. I want my tab to be able to sleep for 3-4 days, even if it mean having to settle for JUST 1.0 Ghz
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schettj:
The lowest I've seen so far in batterymonitor widget is ~108ma draw (screen off, 214mhz clock, wifi off)... if the thing goes into "deep sleep" then batterymonitor (and everything else) stops dead, since the cpu is halted - you'd need to poke it inside to see what the load is when deep sleeping.

108mA gets you to 33 hours. To get to 72 hours you need to get the load down to about 50mA. That's the budget to keep the ram chips powered, and the on/off buttons :)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phonedroid:
Battery drain with ext3 partition and S2E?

Is there a perfect way to check what's draining your battery? Recently I've been noticing that my battery consumes almost 20% of charge during night, whereas it used to only eat about 5% in my previous installation of CM7.

First install of CM 7.0.3 - Good battery life, night drain is only about 5-8%.

Second install of CM 7.0.3 - Worse battery life, night drain is about 25%.

The main difference in the second install in that I have made an ext3 partition in the sd card and I am using S2E and have moved some apps to the sd card. Will this consume more battery? :confused:

Had a look at the battery history in spare parts, and I see that the partial wake usage by Maps and K9 mail topped the list. Uninstalled both to see it they were the issue. I have Juice defender plus where I have configured data off hours from 12:30 am to 6 am. Still it drinks battery. Any thoughts?