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[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
The keywords are CyanogenMod 7, which removes all the bloat and strips the system requirements down to bare essentials. Once CyanogenMod is available on the Sensation, do the same comparison and see what results you get. Until then, this argument is not exactly valid, wouldn't you say?

Another major issue was the choice of file systems (RFS), which caused the phone to lag like a device that has top of the line components shouldn't. Henceforth, all the homebrew lag fixes that came out shortly after the Galaxy S was released. Granted, Samsung has finally dumped RFS, but it sure took them long enough. Let's not forget the rampant bricking of phones after the update to supposedly fix the GPS was released OTA.

If this was the case, Samsung would be the only company manufacturing Android phones and their components. Although the Sensation may be marginally weaker than the SGSII, HTC provides far superior build quality, support, and communication with consumers. In response to the flood of messages on HTC's Facebook page regarding the locked bootloader, HTC responded by stating that they will review and reevaluate their bootloader policy. Samsung's stance on consumer questions, particularly when users wanted to know about the Froyo update, was always "be patient, you'll get it when we release it".

In essence, I would much rather do business with a company that I can rely on. I'd rather not feel like I just plunged into an abyss of uncertainty after plunking down $500.
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
Enjoy the SGSII. Prior to getting the Galaxy S, my first (and, most likely, last) Samsung phone, I also felt that Samsung was releasing the best mobile product. After 3 months of dealing with what I felt was an inferior device, I sold it, bought a MyTouch 4G (which, in spite of lacking a SAMOLED display, runs circles around the Galaxy S/Vibrant), and never looked back.

I'll give it to Samsung - the SAMOLED display is beautiful, albeit the colors look a bit oversaturated for my taste.
[HTC Sensation] ankydu:
I read on some thread that Cyanogen people have said they wont support the sensation
[HTC Sensation] ko0l:
The sgs2 still uses RFS, it wasn't RFS that was the problem it was the implementation of it which was fixed on SGS 2.2.1.

HTC also isn't perfect.

http://www.htcclassaction.org/
[HTC Sensation] juami:
DicePlayer 1.1.0 can add codec support to sensation.

we tested some other HTC QSD8260 chipset phones.

it can play 1080p+DTS/FLAC movies well.
[HTC Sensation] MaBlo:
Actually it uses EXT4. They learned from their mistake, and ditched RFS.

And why the fighting guys? Everyone have different taste, what suits one person might not suit the next. No one is forcing you to buy the SGS2/Sensation if you don't like it. That being said I'm perfectly happy with my SGS2, I even like TW4 better than Sense. Haven't tried Sense 3 though, that lockscreen looks awesome. The only reason I didn't consider the Sensation is the bootloader deal, I'm sure it is a excellent device.
[HTC Sensation] karendar:
Amen to that. It's kind of ironic that there's a survey like this in an HTC Sensation forum, it's just prime territory for trolling. Both phones have their merits and downfalls, to each his own.. Personally, the SGS2 has the onboard storage I require and the extra RAM, the Sensation only has chassis build quality and the screen for me... So SGS2 won on the specs side.

I tried Sense 3 on my oh so reliable HTC HD2, it's pretty nice.. ;) Gonna try Touchwiz as soon as I get my SGS2... But I'll probably end up scrapping that and installing another launcher anyways. That or CM7 once it's out! ;)
[HTC Sensation] vikas776:
Jesus.... What a fight going on here

i m sure if they meet each other in reality they gonna do nasty things with each others

O.o
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
@Habbit:

1. Samsung is addressing the problems with the SGSII because of the severe backlash they've received for the SGS and, prior to that, the Behold II. If they didn't address SGSII issues, the negative PR would essentially force their mobile division to shut down. Two Samsung phone models in a row were problem-ridden lemons, but I guess you see that as a good sign for the SGSII. Oh well, I'm sure it all somehow makes sense to you.

2. Past tense? Yes, my experience with Samsung was in the past, hence the past tense. You're really grasping at straws here, aren't you?

3. Fanboyism? Yes, I implied that your behavior is that of a fanboy. You blindly praise a Samsung product without ever having owned one. Me? When it comes to choosing Samsung or HTC, I choose HTC. If another manufacturer releases a phone with similar functionality and one that works as advertised, I will consider it. Samsung, however, has a long way to go before I begin viewing them in a different light. This statement is based on personal experience as a former owner of a supposedly high-end Samsung mobile product.

Here's the bottom line...when the original Galaxy S was announced, there were countless Behold II owners warning all potential buyers about Samsung's modus operandi and the lack of quality of their mobile products. I, too, felt that after releasing a universally panned dud, Samsung would learn from their past mistakes, so I ignored all the warnings and bought the Vibrant. Luckily, I was able to unload it on eBay 3 months later and recoup the money that I spend on the upgrade price. Even more luckily, T-Mobile didn't indicate in their system that I used an upgrade, enabling me to purchase the MT4G at a full upgrade price. In the end, I didn't lose any money on the deal, but it was a valuable learning experience.

As asked by MaBlo, why are we arguing? Seriously, we're Android users. Shouldn't we be bashing Apple fans, instead of one another? :D
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
True that.

For all those who want to may I direct you to this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1094879&highlight=apple

Kinda developed into an Apple bash.
[HTC Sensation] freemini:
I keep going between GS2 and Sensation.. I'm gonna get a new phone in the August-September, so I really hope HTC bumps up the specs and fixes the lag I saw in videos. I want a fast phone, that doesn't try to be iPhone, since I'm sick of my iPhone 4. I want to try something different and HTC does that, but that screen and design of the GS2 look AWESOME. It also seems faster than the Sensation. The only thing that stops me from just getting the GS2 would be resolution, I love the Retina display, I hate the small screen though.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
ok so we achieved s-off faster than samsung gps fix... boo hoo now that is what i call a company looking out for their best interest and their customers... lets see what samsung can do to top that
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
Firstly, there's still no guarantee they'll bring it out for the sensation (although it is very, very likely)

Secondly, this thread is about the GSII and the Sensation, not the Galaxy S.

Thirdly, why d'you want to spark off fanboy-ism. It usually just breaks down into an argument.
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
lol... i kinda became a fan boy today after what htc has done they gained much more respect from me for this move.. the whole gps fiasco can be considered similarly as people contacted samsung about the gps fix and the sat on there ass and tried to wait it out and still there is no real fix. the gs2 still has slight issues with the gps.. but fanboyism should be left out of it and i completely agree with you on that we are all part of the android open source community and should allow the best knowledge of each device to be put out there and not be bash each other about it. if we need to bash bash apple iphone owners. i am still fighting the war to convert iphone users to android. i used to have arguments with my store owner as to why iphone cannot compete to any android device and he was adamant that iphone was the best until he got his dell streak and now he says f iphone he doesnt even want to hear about the iphone 5 anymore
[HTC Sensation] Beefheart:
Christ, there really are some embarrassing posts in this thread.
[HTC Sensation] saquib:
OT: Any with a HTC Sensation and fancies a striaght exchange with a GS2, please PM me. UK Only.
[HTC Sensation] chalid:
I really like HTC as a company, but have moved on after 5 HTC phones in a row. Why? Because HTC stands still. The HD2 was the last really groundbreaking phone, and since then all following phones were only copies with minor changes. Not only the design didn't change a lot, but the built-in hardware neither.

The Sensation is finally taking it to the next level, with a higher display resolution and a dual core cpu, but still has all the shortcomings of its predecessors: crappy camera, bad gpu-performance and some UI-lagging. When watching some browser-performance tests on youtube I really have to ask myself if that's a joke. Lagging on some websites and a pretty bad flash performance, while the Samsung Galaxy S2 can play fracking 1080p flash-streams right inside the browser, without any problems.

And another thing I really don't get: Why are the HTC phones keep getting thicker while all other manufactures manage to slim their phones down? 9mm (without the camera bump) on the HD2 vs. 11mm on the Sensation ...
[HTC Sensation] henrik.dk:
yes. I like HTC also.

If senstation were out last year, it would be the goat.

couldnot understand why they not pack a better battery in a thicker phone

Silly HTC.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
I think it has something to do with they're outrageous profits,

Last year they were putting the top notch components in and charging the same top notch price.

Now they're paying a few engineers to mod the sense, and putting average components in and STILL charging the same top notch price. Greedy HTC.
[HTC Sensation] :
You mean the slightly less battery thats insignificant since both the processors work so differently. Not like HTC wasn't listening to the people when making phones. They heard majority were saying how much they love the nexus one design. Brought uni body back. You do know that aluminum body can only get so small. They even made the phone easier for aftermarket batteries to design a back for it. Everyone cuts corners in making a product to save money its natural. HTC did it with internals which won't make a difference once hardware acceleration reaches phones. Samsung does it with their casing their phones. Samsung galaxy 2 great but it's still has things that are just bad. If we take a look in development most of the roms are not different than how the first galaxy was all fixes packed in to one package. I would certainly like my phone to work out of the box. Not apply fixes to get it to work. No one would like to have a computer and have to make their own bios. Samsung makes great internal hardware and displays but when it comes to doing things right from the beginning they aren't as good. Even Microsoft Windows phone 7 just works out of the box.
[HTC Sensation] chalid:
What fixes are you talking about? The SGS2 custom ROMs are just deodexed and rootet, nothing more. The SGS2 works pretty much perfectly out of the box. I definitely had more issues with my last 5 HTC phones than with the SGS2 (I don't have any ... :P).

I'm not a Samsung fanboy (the SGS2 is my first Samsung device ...) and like I said before, I have used HTC phones for quite some time now, but at this point one simply has to admit that the more complete next-gen smartphone doesn't come from HTC but from Samsung. That doesn't mean the Sensation is a bad phone - by no means! It simply means, that the SGS2 is a tad better (CPU&GPU performance, camera, UI performance to name the most important). But since not everybody has the same main focus on hardware and software, the Sensation might be the better choice for many after all ...
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
was looking for a little more

I like mostly everything about HTC phones, but some things are really not making sense to me. I think everyone can agree that the biggest battery eater on the 4.3 phones is the screen - forget the allocation by the dual cores. Yet the sensation has a smaller battery than the Galaxy AND the EVO 3d - :confused: Smaller RAM and internal storage than those two as well. Then I looked at the link below. I think I am going to wait and see if they have a better offering for t-mo later in the year. They did the hd2 to the hd7 in one year...you never know.

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc...-galaxy-s-ii-flagship-superphone-fight-14017/
[HTC Sensation] :
Honestly in all I would get the Samsung Galaxy 2 if they would use something like aluminum or at least lg quality high quality plastic. Literally Samsung could take over using those materials. I had a vibrant it creaked when I would squeeze it. I could feel how cheap the outside of it was. Super amoled plus does look gorgeous. But as long as Samsung keeps using standard display 800x480 and super LCD keeps getting better resolutions the difference between each will start to change. Super LCD and super amoled are on par with each other regardless anyway. Both phones have good and bad points. It's not like one totally outshines the other.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
I've literally just held one. The plastic is not cheap. It may feel cheap overall, to some, but the actual plastic is not cheap.
[HTC Sensation] FlaTEriC18041983:
As I'm still waiting for some answers to my questions on post 646 of this thread, I now really need to remind the HTC-fans of the TyTN2/Polaris phone generation: I really can't remember HTC being a company with good support and costumer care, adressing the issues of the devices... e.g. the performance-issues on Polaris and TyTNs have never been adressed, and as far as I remember they didn't even bring a WM6.1-update to the polaris, only to the TyTN2.

So please think about praising HTC for their support...
[HTC Sensation] :
Yes I understand that but at least put more details into making it look like a high quality device. I held the Samsung Galaxy 2 its not as bad as the vibrant but I like the way HTC makes the phone feel like more than its actually worth. I also don't like the 3 buttons only on the phone. I think google should start telling the companies certain hardware restrictions like microsoft. To many phones to say how much I get confused with the home menu back button switch around. In the end they'll both out per each other in various ways than. Can you wrong either way most likely
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
Fair point, but the whole thing about Google imposing hardware restrictions... NO. :p

That's just not what Google is about. Android is about freedom etc and adaptation and hence why there is so much choice in the market.
[HTC Sensation] chalid:
Yeah, many HTC phones feel more sturdy than the SGS2 - but they aren't. I'm happy with the build quality of the SGS2 and the use of plastic. Only because of those plastic applications, the phone is so incredibly light and thin, which makes it far more comfortable to hold in hand and carrying it in the pocket. After more than 18 month with the HD2, the SGS2 is a welcome change in terms of weight-reduction (though it never even bothered me with the HD2!!).

@FlaTEriC18041983: many people seem to forget about such things. HTC support is terrible (at times).

I did send my HD2 for repairs once and got it back damaged (scratches and a bump on the speaker-grill). After complaining, they wanted me to send it back to those butchers, but I declined ... A friend send his Touch Pro for repairs to the same (Austrian) repaircenter 5 (!!) times. The last time the phone came back half open (display not in place, screws missing, a big gap in the casing behind the battery). Luckily for him, Amazon exchanged his phone after that.

And of course those things you mentions. GPU support is horrible. And seeing the benchmark results of the Sensation, nothing seems to have changed ...
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
new video of sgs2 and sensation browser test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWQoCOyw97Q

and youtube video quality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcX1LXgjjHY

Clearly htc sensation won on both of the videos.

when you look at the youtube video especially the trees in the background, htc sensation shows more details.

in the browseer test there is a lot of checkering on the sgs2 while the sensation doesn't have any checkering
[HTC Sensation] FishTaco:
Engadget Review of Sensation

From article: "Given the choice between the two, we'd opt for the Galaxy S II for its brilliant display and snappier performance, but that's just a matter of preference."

Sensation: 8/10

Galaxy S II: 9/10

Well I do prefer a more brilliant display and snappier performance in my phones. But coming in second behind the S II is nothing to be ashamed of.
[HTC Sensation] cez10:
meh i still dont know which phone to choose :(

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1098700

perhaps sgs2 > sensation :o
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
close your eyes and toss up a coin heads you get the sensation tails you get the sgs2... either way you shouldnt be disappointed
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
lol... just read over my other post..." head you get the sensation" haha
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
Thanks. I read that too. There seems to be a small consensus among the reviewers "I've" seen. The Galaxy is getting the nod. What is really interesting is one category that is the most important to me - performance - the Sensation is getting consistently beat. Really did not expect that from HTC. Hopefully, later in the year there will be another high powered htc android phone for tmobile.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
Hardly. If you saw, the held his two fingers on the screen. Then tilted - making it look faulty - and that is one site.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
nevertheless, sgs2 checkered while sensation did not.
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
Just let go of the pinch zoom and it goes away. You telling me you sit there with your fingers pinched together on the phone while you are zoomed out. Let go and browse the page. :p

I watched the youtube test video... and honestly... I can't say either one is better. Hard to judge without having the devices but I kept pausing it at various spots and they either looked the same or one looked better but neither always looked better. If they had been timed exactly it would be easier to tell.

I can say that the SGSII color looks better and handles the light better. The scene around the 43 second mark shows the chick in white walking on the concrete. Looks good on the SGSII but washed out or overbright on the Sensation. Noticed it other spots too. Detail aside which I could not distinguish from the video.... the Sensation looked bad next to the SGSII. Can't handle bright light/shadow contrasts very well.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
What other videos. The gsii beats the sensation...and nice heavy flash usage...
[HTC Sensation] moose810:
Isn't the US GSII less powerfull than the European one? haha
[HTC Sensation] Beefheart:
That is the browser software, not the phone. It doesn't do it with Opera Mini.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
but sensation browser did not checker while still holding the pinch

I like the colour trueness of the sensation than the overly vibrant colour of the sgs2. just my personal preference.
[HTC Sensation] freemini:
I think I will go for sgs2. I don't want a widescreen display on my phone, I have a TV, monitor and iPad for movies. I like squarish displays more, since in landscape you can see more. I'll try out a sgs2 in store to see if the resolution disturbs me :)
[HTC Sensation] Beefheart:
Like I said above, that is comparing browser software, not phones. The checkering isn't a phone limitation because it doesn't do it on other browser software I have used.

And people talk of the 'overly vibrant colours' of the GSII clearly without realising the level of vibrancy is adjustable.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
Then good for you! Whatever floats your boat!

It is a matter of preference. my brother has a galaxy captivate and I don't like the vibrancy of it no matter how he adjusts it. pictures looks cartoonish in my eyes. I prefer the colour trueness of the sensation.
[HTC Sensation] Beefheart:
In the context of the post you quoted that makes no sense whatsoever.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
You can't go wrong with either of these phones. Samsung SGS2 is a great device but I like the htc sensation design better and overall quality. I'm not saying SGS2 quality is bad. I just prefer sensation design over sgs2.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
good that the browser you use doesnt checker. I was referring to the video and whatever browser he used in that test. it checkered and the sensation did not!
[HTC Sensation] Beefheart:
Definitely. Both have advantages and disadvantages but overall they're the best two handsets on the market at this moment in time.

Er...right. Still a bit of a weird thing to say but....er....whatever floats your boat. ;)
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
Well, I agree with you on that. It is a matter of preference thats all. Buy what you want. Who cares what other people want. You are buying it for yourself.
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
Yes considering it does not exist. ;)
[HTC Sensation] Gilgehmesh:
It is going to be definitely a matter of preference between these two phone. Each phone has its appeal... it's a matter of what is important to you, to prospective buyer.

You might choose the Sensation if:

1) You like Sense and like what HTC has done with 3.0 over TouchWiz.

2) Prefer the physical feel of Sensation (i.e. less plastic feeling.)

3) You have a good history with HTC phones.

4) You prefer a higher resolution screen (qHD vs WVGA).

5) You prefer SLCD over SAMOLED plus.

6) Don't mind a locked bootloader and/or believe that HTC will unlock it.

7) Believe that Sensation will be updated more promptly.

8) Prefer the build quality of Sensation over SGS II.

9) Like the social aggregation better on Sense.

10) Feel that Sensation will be better supported by developers.

11) Sensation will be plenty fast.

12) Like having a LED reminder light.

You might choose SGS II if:

1) You prefer SAMOLED plus over SLCD.

2) Believe that higher benchmark scores like Quadrant and Smartbench translates into better performing phone.

3) Don't mind TouchWiz or you'll get rid of it as soon as you can.

4) You prefer a lighter phone and don't mind the plastic build.

5) Like the fact that SGS II has better codec support (FLAC, mkv, etc.) built into the phone.

6) Believe that Samsung has learned its lesson and will provide better support.

7) Like that fact that SGS II has more storage built into the phone (16/32 GB vs. 1GB).

8) Believe that developer support for SGS II will be good enough.

9) Appreciate the higher resolution front facing camera (2 MP vs. VGA.)

So each phone has its advantages and it's a matter of what you prefer.
[HTC Sensation] Beefheart:
To be fair, point 6 has already been pretty much proven with three firmware updates within a month of the phones release, and two camera firmware updates.
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
SamSux, you made your point and at the end of the day the average person stills gonna choose HTC Sensation over GSII because it's 200 - 300 difference between the two phones and seriously what can the SGII do that the Sensation can't? Plus Tmobile US ain't gonna get SGII. We'll be hitting the Development Section with tons of roms while you're still flashing your recook, rebuild TouchCrap. Are you SamSux that bored? Got nothing to do but trolling in HTC thread? Go play with your plastic phone, i thought SamSux comes with an unlock bootloader? Port some roms ask Supercurio or whatever his name is. Heh.... TROLLS!!!!
[HTC Sensation] alex9898:
Play an 1080p MKV and display it to your TV on HDMI.

I have the point ?
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Read my post again troll, "average person " heh I have my quadcore to watch mkv files
[HTC Sensation] alex9898:
Lol i am a troll if you want but if i was an average person, i think i will chose an average smartphone like the iPhone because it's much more simple to use in daily use :-p.
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Can someone bring out the Spray Trolls.. hahahaha these SamSux are bored they can't port crap...
[HTC Sensation] alex9898:
You are a funny guy.

Do You know that I post with a DHD ?