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[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
And if I turn my phone off I use practically no battery...?

At any rate, a comment like "this thread needs to go away" is EXACTLY why threads about this subject usually explode.

No one here has said anything ridiculous, just trying to discuss.

You're welcome to NOT be apart of a thread if you don't like it.

Go beg for thanks elsewhere.

All I'm saying is the overall capacity of the battery declined, and quicker than it should, after using the kernel.

I'm not saying that the kernel caused it.

All I'm saying is, that's what happened.
[EVO 4G General] Ryjabo:
Or just you.

The purpose of this thread was to talk to people that have been using SBC kernals and haven't had issues.

I guess I'm not surprised at some of the dumbass comments that have been made. I don't even know why I wasted my time trying to start a discussion.
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
ive been using sbc kernels since the beginning too, other than the major glitch with them (fix is to not have plugged in while rebooting, or unplug then replug to reset charging) I am very satisfied and thank FSM that ms79723 made sbc for us

my stock battery still feels like its new, I don't notice any inconsistant drain patterns

I use my phone heavy, i can drain my stock battery in 4hrs and my chinese fake 3500 in 7hrs. constant surfing, downloading, texting, talking and tethering. I do it daily not rarely, my nand memory should be failing by now and I'm surprised my batteries have survived this long due to abuse nonsbc related.

the longest my phone went without a sbc kernel was an hour while testing cm stock kernel and I refuse to flash a non sbc kernel.

I will make it known when my battery dies from sbc, so far so good, knocks on wood
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
I got that. Other than the first sentence, explaining what I took his comment to mean, my comment had nothing to do with yours.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
lmao yeah about that, ill always be here, we dont need ANOTHER thread about the same thing over and over again, maybe ill go in the q and a and ask how to unroot, yeah ill go do that
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Well thank you Steve Jobs for telling us what we need.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
I've been using them for a few months and didn't realize I used them incorrectly until a week ago. I normally got great battery life but I found out that I had to let it charge overnight. I never left my phone overnight while charging so I guess I didn't push the kernels to the max. What I would do is just let it charge past 100% for like an hour and then take it off. I only thought people with 3500 batteries should leave it overnight and boy was I wrong. Other day I left my phone overnight for the FIRST time and I really saw the difference; it's funny because the way I know it was working is the battery monitor widget was showing 12-14mA's all night(finally witnessed trickle charging). Man was I amazed lol. Sorry for the long cluttered rant I'm on my phone so I'm trying to keep this short.

~ d3rk
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
? 10 characters
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
So the only battery screen shot I'm seeing form SBC shows 3 hours awake time total ... no offense but that's not impressive... certainly not worth the controversy or possibility of a failure.

I mean I'm looking at my phone right now and I'm at 23% ... ok not impressive for 10 hours of uptime, but then my awake time is 7 hours, and some of that was using maps navigation not plugged in, most of the rest was streaming music form Pandora (so CPU and network data)... and I'm using the stock CM 7.0.0 Kernel so I've not tweaked a single thing.

When I was tweak happy on MIUI (Foyo build) I could push 20 hours of "non-use" no problem.

I've never used an SBC kernel. Ever.
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
gonna leave these here
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
I used one that came packed in a rom some one sent me to look at and I could feel my phone getting warmer than usual within minutes. I just keep a spare battery so I don't need to overcharge it in order for it to last.
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
common misconception: sbc works ONLY when battery is showing 100% and NOT being used
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
I am using SBC now.. wasn't really into the craze at first, but I did start using them.

I will say, it is nice, but, that first 10% still drops rapidly. I noticed it sometimes sticks on 100% longer but once it drops to around 97-98% ... then, if you're still using your phone.. it's only a matter of minutes before it goes all the way to 88-92% depending on what you're doing.

I do get the irritation people have with some screenies. I can get amazing battery with a ton of setups if I don't use my phone. We know that is very possible...

What gets me are the ones who turn every damn thing possible off virtually killing what makes it a smartphone then boast great battery life... or the ones who post screens of some crazy silly heavy usage over a 8-10 hour period and still be floating on 75-80%. Supposedly all on a stock battery..

There is a limit to what a stock battery will get on the EVO. It will definitely vary from user to user... but most people that know what they're doing can get ~16ish hours give or take while actually using their phone.

I have used about every damn kernel out there, sense, aosp.. and in my experience SBC will help you maximize battery life, but it isn't gonna make your battery life match that of an oldschool Nokia dumbphone. It will only do so much...
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Yeah the drop does happen.

It'll stick at 100% for like 30 minutes to an hour and then all the sudden you're at 90.
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
Definitely. It is something I have just learned to deal with.

At first I would always freak out and start checking for running apps and wakelocks.. =o

I understand now that it's just how it is. I still try to find ways to maximize it myself tho.. kinda like a hobby now.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
It's funny because ms originally created the SBC to prevent the drop to 90. :p
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
Should be clarified that in an earlier post you already admitted to using a 3500ma battery which makes 24hrs runtime a lot less impressive. Still, at least you show a solid amount of runtime (8hours). I wish CM had a built-in screenshot ... i hate downloading apps just to snap a picture ...
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
ehhh. i stay at 100 percent for around two and a half hours. (Minimal use of course, couple texts, all sync and data is on)
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
correct, i have both 3500 and stock, i cant be positive as to which i used for those screens so i will not deny it was either. its a bit high for stock, bit low for 3500, but those fake 3500 arent even close to 2800
[EVO 4G General] blackroseMD1:
Well, you have to think that SBC works much better with a 3500 mah battery than stock anyway.

I originally bought my 3500 because I use my phone a lot. Even then, I wasn't very happy with the results. After I flashed my first SBC kernel (BCnice's first), I wasn't impressed either. I didn't realize at the time that I had to give it about a day. After I figured that out, I became a believer.

Does my phone get hot? Occasionally, but it does the same thing with various other kernels, including CM. Still, I've never seen it above 41 degrees Celsius. In the meantime, I can get 12+ hours of heavy use (screen on time: texting, web browsing, phone calls, Angry Birds), and 30 hours of light use out of my phone.

Have to admit that the "SBC gonna kill you" threads worried me a bit, but I haven't noticed anything that would make me switch. I'll run SZ until the day I trade my EVO in for the E3D...and as soon as there's an SBC kernel for it, I'll run that too.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
um, yeah about that
[EVO 4G General] gmmorrell:
I see engadget is reporting a leaked version of Skype with video for thunderbolt

http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...olt-celebrations/&category=classic&postPage=1

I wondered if anyone could get it working on our EVO. I have CM7 and it would not install for me

Sent from my CM7 final.
[EVO 4G General] huludical:
Yeah I tried too but didn't work. Dang :-/
[EVO 4G General] avalst:
Doesn't install on stock either
[EVO 4G General] cheapskate88:
This would be pretty awesome.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
Yeah its true phandroids reporting the same thing
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
I have it on my TB... super win :D
[EVO 4G General] Intlstyle:
That would be cool if it was working on the EVo
[EVO 4G General] khov07:
I am sure a few devs here will figure it out soon. TB is running 2.2, like our EVO's, so it's just a matter of time.

Once this apk starts getting modded to run on different phones, it's really going to explode. I hope Skype is ready for this... I foresee an iPhone/AT&T network debacle in the making.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
All theyll do is start blocking it like they did when fring was using it.
[EVO 4G General] daryelv:
Here's an APK that was updated to remove the check for "VerizonPlatform" and "VerizonMerlin" condition check. I also had to remove the line

<uses-library android:name="com.htc.device" />

from the AndroidManifest.xml just to get the APK to install.

It will get to the sign-in page, but the SkypeService fails...

I/com.skype.merlin_mecha.service.a(17177): system board:supersonic bootloader:2.10.0001 brand:sprint product:htc_supersonic model:PC36100 manufacturer:HTC device:supersonic display:3.70.651.1 fingerprint:sprint/htc_supersonic/supersonic/supersonic:2.2/FRF91/294884:user/release-keys host:AA109 user:root radio:2.15.00.09.01 tags:release-keys type:user
I/global (17177): Default buffer size used in BufferedInputStream constructor. It would be better to be explicit if an 8k buffer is required.
D/dalvikvm(17177): GC_FOR_MALLOC freed 5340 objects / 712528 bytes in 124ms
I/LSState (12428): EventReceiver:android.intent.action.NOTIFICATION_UPDATE
I/StartSkypeKitOperation(17177): REMOVE THIS ONCE VERIFIED: appToken = KdXVSo6qB9
I/dalvikvm(17177): Jit: resizing JitTable from 4096 to 8192
D/dalvikvm(15756): GC_EXPLICIT freed 3901 objects / 412584 bytes in 100ms
I/ActivityManager(12428): Process com.skype.merlin_mecha (pid 17177) has died.
W/ActivityManager(12428): Scheduling restart of crashed service com.skype.merlin_mecha/.service.SkypeServiceController in 5000ms

I don't have any more time tonight to work on this, maybe someone else can look into why the service is failing.

Link to APK file... [warning: this is for devs, this is not functional yet]

http://db.tt/umgHYVq

-Daryel
[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
Nice Work! Good start on what I am sure will be something a dev would be interested in phucking with.
[EVO 4G General] jfizz88:
from the code it looks like the skype apk sees that its runnin on the supersonic, and then at the end com.skype.merlin_mecha dies. i know the htc mecha is the incredible HD (thunderbolt) so when the sign in is authenticating it crashes because it doesnt match. i dont know how to spoof the device name, but i know the devs will figure it out
[EVO 4G General] wintrxtrem:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1031944
[EVO 4G General] bracero:
Hope that the Skype team has it running for EVO's real soon.
[EVO 4G General] techker:
the admins should make a sticky of this and its progress..so many questions and threads..

can't wait to see this in action!
[EVO 4G General] vasiaeva:
Come on guys there no developer who can unlock that fcking app?????????//
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
You have a evo and tb?
[EVO 4G General] ku_:
shiiii.. Thank you for getting us this far..... im not a dev, but a flashaholic tried to instal on MYN TWOpointTWO RLS 5 MYN Z & Koni's ES III ... I can't wait...lol
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fab4272:
Hi All,

I think I have done something 'stupid'. I am using TnTlite 4.4.0 and recently installed mount manager to take advantage of the CIFS module in TnTlite.

I have a NAS unit with a directory called DVD. Inside that, I have sub-directories of movies I have stored, and within them the actual AVI's, etc.....

I think I might have selected a delete function on the DVD folder from Ifilemanager on the G tablet. Now, all my files in the sub-directoies are 0kb is size. They are still there, but only 0kb in size.

I have a suspicision that they are still there though. Is there anyway to restore the files to their correct size?

Thanks in advance.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fab4272:
bump anyone?
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] AllyWonders:
Does any one have stock htc apk's like lock screen, rosie, splash screen, ect... ? can some one pull these files from completely stock rom... also pandora transparent ect.... thank's
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] Mustang02:
Download one of the de-bloated roms and open the zip file. The apks will be under the /system/app folder.
[A7 General] masterfred:
Check this out !

Anyone in relation with those guys ? How could we get out tablet to support it ?

Pretty amazing !

Link here : http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/11/cyanogenmod-7-0-is-now-final-ready-for-your-consumption/

I know Dexter is the eLocity king atm, but it must be tirering to be a one man army !
[A7 General] 5[Strogino]:
Again and again and again...

Without kernel source we unable to do custom ROMs. Only modifications over stock.

Not a development topic...
[A7 General] netstat_EVO:
maybe I should put my old signature back on? :) lol
[A7 General] Dexter_nlb:
the Synergy Bluetooth implementation is nowhere close to standard implementation, so although we might get a CM6/7 on this tablet, even without 2.6.36.3 kernel maybe, we still need more coding done to support the BT implemention otherwise the port will be without Bluetooth support..

I got, as example, the FolioMod ported easily, but Bluetooth did not work, same with the Blur port.. and since our kernel has no real loopdevice or devicemapper support and modules needs to be specifically compiled with the revisions used in our kernel, the "move2sd" function is also missing here, and other nice function as optimized filesystems using loopdevice for faster database updates etc..

it will be hard! , and the drivers without any source, makes its practically impossible to do a kernel based on nvidia's git tree alone..
[A7 General] Mr. Clown:
Moved to proper forum
[A7 General] ming_a:
Kernel available??

See on http://www.elocitynow.com/downloads/open-source.tar

and chacksum http://www.elocitynow.com/downloads/.checksum.md5
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Yep. Did you find it here:

http://www.elocitynow.com/developers.shtml

Billy
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] peldax:
Hi, i have heard that there is discovery chan. App. I cant find it on market. Can some1 up it here? Its free app.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Sushil79:
Try this link i think its working

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rhythmnewmedia.discovery
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Joelj08:
Nope that link doesn't work.....

:(

sent from the amazing galaxy 3
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Sushil79:
try this app

its working good
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Joelj08:
Thanks loads it works! !!!

sent from the amazing galaxy 3
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] peldax:
Many thanks!!
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] kiran86:
thanks its working
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandydemandy:
Hi there,

Im running a rooted Atrix with Gladiatrix. However, this is something I noticed prior to using any mods.

When I unlock my phone, lockscreen to homescreen I notice a serious delay in the loading of the widgets on my homescreen. Namely my weather, music, calendar and battery widgets. Does anyone else experience this?

Couple things:

I use widgetlocker

I am using ADW launcher but it also happened with Launcher Pro

Any suggestions? Tips?

TIA! :)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LisaBham:
I would like to be able to use my tablet with my students at school. Unfortunately the district uses a proxy server that requires authentication to access their network.

I know the ipad has these advanced wireless settings built in. Is there anyway to add this feature to my G tab? I am currently running the stock rom 1.1 3588, but I have run the market fix.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bsvoboda:
Try wifi browser login. It works at hospital using Cisco pop-up that requires clicking accept button to activate wifi on web browser
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LisaBham:
This is a different type of proxy server that requires logon to even connect to the network.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpsisrl:
Are you saying that you can't connect to the wireless access point because of the wireless authentication method being used by the school or are you saying you're connected to the wireless access point but now the proxy authentication is blocking you?
[HD2 General] htchd2rules:
Hi people, ive got this problem (well not a problem exactly), ive done a search but couldnt find whats wrong. I was using hyperdroid cyanogen mod not long ago and i used to be able to control music from the lock screen with the in built cyanogen lockscreen controls, now after installing a stock rom, then going back to the same build of hyerdroid, i cant control anything with the lock screen music controls of cyanogen mod. I would say it must be to do with the radio i have installed right? Nothing major really, just that I like to use the cyanogen controls as i think it looks sweet :D

its cools i sorted it. feel free to delete this thread lol. i just re installed mixzing, the app i was trying to control from the cyanogen lockscreen music widget, and it worked :P
[Nexus S General] mysterioustko:
I just wanted to share my battery life results of my NS with the community. I was able to get over 24 hours of battery life on a single charge. What amazes me more than that, is the fact that my battery was only at 72% when I took it off the charger. Much to my surprise the battery lasted me for the next 24 hours before it dropped to 16% and I decided I needed to charge it before going out this evening.

My configuration:

Rom: NS Collab 1.0.17

Kernel: Netarchy 1.3.0.2-CFS

Screen Brightness: Auto

GPS: On

Wifi Sleep Policy: Never Sleep

Email: Sync every hour

Facebook: Sync every 4 hours

Clock Speed: No special governors enabled

Most of the time I was connected to a WIFI network

Hope this may help those that have been having problems getting optimum battery life on their NS. :)
[Nexus S General] bcl0328:
not bad i guess, i've gotten over 48 hours
[Nexus S General] Si_NZ:
Yup, awesome battery life with CM7 as well.
[Nexus S General] pmax11:
Care to share how?
[Nexus S General] JOHNGAETANO:
limited phone calls equals great battery life.
[Nexus S General] mysterioustko:
Yeah SI_NZ pics don't show any usage of the phone. Mine I talked for about 2.5 hours and was using facebook a decent amount. I also did web browsing, some videos for a little while, and I did a couple of video recordings of my son. Overall I used my phone a pretty decent amount during this time period, hence why I was so impressed. The same type of use on my EVO would have resulted in me having to put the phone on a charger before halfway through the day.
[Nexus S General] zkyevolved:
Darn... I'm stuck between the Nexus S and the HTC Desire HD, but the battery life on this phone must rock.

But how is battery life on a STOCK OS? I'm not much to root.
[Nexus S General] ikuikuiku:
Could you please test what happens when you do

Email: push

That seems to be a battery killer
[Nexus S General] madfarmer:
I've found a few battery killers, maybe we should make a list and make it sticky. My phone easily lasts like 36 hours with normal use, which include a little gaming and lots of surfing, texting and calling. The apps i have found to drain the battery so far is:

Latitude activated in google maps. This is insane, latitude makes my phone go dead in like 8 hours !!!

a media player that i can't remember the name on :/
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
The Desire HD kinda sucks for battery life and I found it was too big/bulky feeling. It wasn't as fast as the Nexus S in everyday use either...the Nexus S is quite quick.

I'm on stock 2.3.3 out of the box and battery life is very good, better than I expected. I don't have too many specifics yet since I've only had it a few days. But so far it's impressed me again today with over 13h 30m 43s, with 44% display use, and 72% battery left. Perhaps I'll comment on the weekend after I calm down a bit and use it over a more typical day. But as it stands so far, I expect to get 1 day heavy usage, 2 days on daily typical usage, and 3-4 days when using the phone very little (like while camping/hiking).

:)
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
Well 8 hours is quite good since it runs the GPS constantly and updates your location on the Latitude site. I ran other GPS apps on my Desire and typical times were ~4 hours before the first battery low warning. I haven't had a chance to really test the GPS properly, but initial use looks good.
[Nexus S General] jaker.the.skater:
2 days is pretty good. but you barely ever had the screen on. I can normally get 20 hours which lasts me the whole day, so I'm fine with charging every night.
[Nexus S General] zkyevolved:
Wow that's fantastic. I'm sold :)
[Nexus S General] astrise:
I'm on stock 2.3.3 too. Typically I get about 35-40hrs.

WiFi: Off.

BT: Off.

GPS: Off.

Email/Calendar Sync: 1 hour.

Facebook: Off.

No fancy widgets though, just the stock clock and stock calendar. No task killers either.

If I game for about 2hrs during my daily commute, the battery lasts just long enough from 6am to about 11pm.
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
Forgot to mention how the phone is setup:

WiFi is off most of the time (I have 6gig data plan)

BT is off as I don't use an earpiece

GPS is always enabled (I'm a geocacher)

Gmail is set to manual sync (work is too busy for personal email)

Facebook/twitter/whatever are all disabled/not installed

News widget is set to update every 12 hours

I use a Live Wallpaper, Beautiful Widgets with animations, and I'ver never used a task killer as they're not needed.

:)
[Nexus S General] Phantom1275:
Don't know where I have read that, or if it's just an impression. But I think that wifi connection consumes less battery juice than 3G connection. And push-Gmail doesn't increment battery usage.
[Nexus S General] ctai320:
I came from a blackberry (actually I still use the blackberry) and I was initially annoyed by the quick battery drain. But after seeing my friends with iPhones needing to bring chargers with them everywhere just to use whatsapp and gchat constantly, I was really glad I got the nexus s. I recently went on a road trip where I used the gps constantly to drive 4 hours out to the destination, used the phone there to whatsapp and call my friends, used the internet to look up restaurants, and then used the GPS to drive 2 hours back to our hotel and it lasted me the whole day. I'm stock everything with 2.3.3. I love this phone.
[Nexus S General] eyals76:
I managed to get over 48 hours on a single charge.

Thats with around 7-10 short phone calls per day.

Some whatsapp/sms

a few minutes of angry birds here and there

and some web browsing over wifi.

My WiFi is always on and set to never sleep.

sync is off.

GPS off

BT off.

My data is also usually off, since my work data plan is rather small.

Also i have simi clock running that updates the weather every 3 hours when WiFi is connected (which is most of the time).

I am on stock 2.3.3, unrooted.

after 3 days I had around 25% before I connected it to the charger.
[Nexus S General] mariosergio2112:
The battery on nexus s is great, much more better than my old SE X10.
[Nexus S General] eadred:
Could you please all tell whether you are on 9020 or 9023? I heard average battery results were not so positive with 9023 sclcd. Here I can only acquire 9023, and I have been reluctant to buy so far as people don't seem to reach quite the same autonomy as the samoled nexus owners.... Thanks!