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[Galaxy S II General] walk.away:
okay now i'm off the floor from falling off my chair laughing.

HEY MR ADm1N, i PosT rANDoM crAP TO LOOK COoL, BaN EVERY1 WHo RITEZZZZ iN THIS TOPiCX.

On relation to the topic. Yeh the proximity of the release of the Sensation may cause price plans to be reavaluated, especially as they are phones being released around the time of an uprgrade for HTC Hero/Desire users. Think I may take a trip to town just to admire lustfully at the screen and to count down the hours till my contract ends.

As Sensation has been I think said to be priced similarly to the DHD, will the S2 be similar to the S1 when it was launched?
[Galaxy S II General] kerzo:
Has anyone been on the phone to the carriers yet specifically Orange? My contract is up at the moment and I am just on a rolling 30 day contract whilst waiting for this. When i phoned them up last week the guy didn't have a notion about the SGS2 so just wanted to check on here before phoning back again.
[Galaxy S II General] Deanoaka:
We are getting it, according to the Intranet but when that is, I don't know. I would expect it early May though at the £40 price plan.
[Galaxy S II General] Intratech:
Please post a follow up in this thread bruv.
[Galaxy S II General] kerzo:
OK thanks for the info, is it possible to "pre-order" an upgrade or can that not be done until the tariffs are decided? If so is there an estimate on when that is likely to be?

Are the deals on Mobiles.co.uk going to be comparable?
[Galaxy S II General] Deanoaka:
Pre-orders always start a couple of days before we are due to get it in, however saying that, we only do pre-orders normally if we have no stock in. Other stores may be different though.
[Galaxy S II General] Steve158:
S2 on pre order. Roll on May.
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
lucky you!

i really hope there is a price drop with the new sensation. i really love this phone! but it will be very expensive!
[Galaxy S II General] kayodot:
any word on whether T-Mobile will be getting this soon? contract ends soon (tomorrow), not sure whether I should stick with them or switch to vodafone.
[Galaxy S II General] walk.away:
40 quid! and that will be 2 years I assume. For 500mb data I think I'll pass on orange/t-mobile with what is a perfect media device. I assume for 40 pounds you will get unlimited mssgs/minutes?
[Galaxy S II General] awesome-member:
i visited my local carphonewarehouse yesterday, the guy told me that they had a visit from a Samsung rep. and played with the phone for a while.according to him the phone was 'Noticeably' faster then any phone he'd ever tested but he also added that the back plastic feels cheap. they will be stocking about 15 phone on launch date.they may even have some display/test handset 2 -3 days before may 1(i might pop in for a quick test if they have).
[Galaxy S II General] Intratech:
Sweet! Nice work awesome. I'll pop in on the Saturday and see if they've got any display ones at my local store and then I'll be sure to get one if I like the display unit.
[Galaxy S II General] fracmo2000:
I can only find it on vodaphone, would much rather have orange/tmobile...my o2 contact is almost up, but I dont see them getting the sg2.

Never got a phone for CPW before
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
nice!

i suspect it would be a cheap back anyway, as the phone is extremely light!
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
o2 may be getting the phone... or they announce it later.

40 quid a month is just toooo much...

i was hoping 35 quid a month.

:/

i usually get sim free phones anyway, and use my giffgaff sim.
[Galaxy S II General] MrYiff:
I've seen prices for T-Mobile, Orange, Vodafone and O2 so far, no prices yet for 3 but I imagine they will stock the phone too.

This site seems to list the most contract deals so far:

http://www.buymobilephones.net/mobile-phones/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II/30,72930
[Galaxy S II General] mrdo:
has anyone seen anywhere offering the phone on a 12 month contract ?

i'm reluctant to take out an 18 month or 24 month contract ...
[Galaxy S II General] Ayrlupine:
Three had it on their blog that they were stocking the phone, and it's on their website in the "coming soon" section under May. I hope they have a date soon, as I wanted it with Three for the unlimited data plan but might settle for a 750MB Orange plan if Three are going to take a long time.

I also asked in my local Three store and they said it will be Three branded, as all of their phones are. Might put me off going with them.
[Galaxy S II General] MrYiff:
Yeah, I figured three would have it, I just wish they would hurry up and post some prices somewhere so I can decide whether its worth move off of T-Mobile or not.
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
Can't wait for this never been so excited for a phone before! Pre ordered with Expansys would be nice if we can get it in time for the Bank holidays but might b expecting too much!
[Galaxy S II General] mmm_ok:
Mmm... amazon.co.uk is now listing this to be released Apr 27th... I just pre-ordered it... please please please come before bank holiday LOL
[Galaxy S II General] Shaady:
I have been on the phones4u forum asking about it, short answer was they dont know yet if they are going to be stocking it on launch day. I would have thought they would though, otherwise they are going to lose out to places like the carphone warehouse.

Good news about carphone warehouse, am going to give mine a call and see if they have any details.
[Galaxy S II General] grayhaze:
Coming to T-Mobile UK in early May

I spoke to T-Mobile UK customer services this evening and was told that they hope to have the Galaxy S II in stock at the start of May. He also said that it'll be appearing on their 'coming soon' page shortly.
[Galaxy S II General] Shaady:
Its available to per-order on phones4u now, only on Orange though! :mad:
[Galaxy S II General] FRLinux:
Amazon states shipping 30th of april apparently. Yesterday was 27th.
[Galaxy S II General] Beards:
If they do they will be in breach of Samsungs shipping policy.
[Galaxy S II General] Intratech:
Dickheads in my local Carphone Warehouse won't even say if they will have it in store on launch day. I don't see how that's going to be breeching any NDA, I didn't ask for the launch date. They wouldn't even say if they'll have a display unit or if they have had a visit from a Samsung Rep. I told them I've changed my mind about buying from them and I'll go pre-order it from Amazon.
[Galaxy S II General] walk.away:
I thought you meant yesterday was actually the 27th then, like crap, i missed my exam today lol.

Even with it being a bank holiday, it's got to be worth opening for stores on the launch of such a flagship device at the cost of 1.5x wages. The loss of revenue and customers from people going to different shops to buy would be huge.
[Galaxy S II General] manks:
I'm addicted to this forum! I need an unlocked samsung galaxy s2 or one from t mobile so just wondering where usually provides unlocked phones on contract? car phone warehouse? Thanks
[Galaxy S II General] Bilhouse:
I'm gonna keep an eye on eBay. You never know if someone gets some stock a couple of days early.
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
Doubt it though! Should of pre ordered from Expansys and use Quidco or TopCashBack for cashback! Could get about £25 in cashback!
[Galaxy S II General] Nameless21:
Vodafone are doing £30 a month free phone as a upgrade on mobiles.co.uk

if you keep a eye on the Vodafone site they may do it to new customers too.

http://www.mobiles.co.uk/vodafone-samsung-i9100-galaxy-s.html
[Galaxy S II General] sckc23:
Carphone warehouse provides unlocked phones but i'm not sure about phones4u cuz mine was locked with 3 when i had a contract with them few years ago.
[Galaxy S II General] FRLinux:
Sorry. Yes meant yesterday they displayed a shipping date of 27. Amazon does however state that it should arrive around the 5th. Sounds genuine with bank holiday being the same in Ireland and the UK.
[Galaxy S II General] ice_coffee:
Guys, when choosing your provider, choose carefully. It is all well and good the phone being capable of 21Mbps HSDPA, but on voice contracts download speed is limited/throttled by the carrier.

From what I can work out so far all the carriers are doing this apart from Vodafone. I know 3 limit you to 2 Mb per second afaik the rest are similar. Even on voda the max for their network is 7.2 Mbps anyway, I managed a real world 4 Mb per second whilst i was with them (just enough to stream HD from iplayer using my laptop, although I would get a bit of buffering).

I am currently on a rolling 30 day with tesco and tend to get 0.5 Mb per second which really sucks as it is making iplayer unwatchable.

Of course if you are using a mobile dongle, you have unrestricted access, 3 also have the same 7.2 Mb per second limit, like voda do. I don't know what the limit is for the other providers.
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
o2 are pants as well for data! Can't wait for my remaining 4 months to end then I will switch to GiffGaff! They keep sending me texts saying I've gone over my data allowance which is rubbish! Then they throttle the speeds to something which is unusable!
[Galaxy S II General] grayhaze:
T-mobile and 3 still seem to be the best bets in terms of data usage. T-mobile for price and 3 for quantity. I'll hopefully be sticking with T-mobile, but I still don't understand why they haven't made the release of the Galaxy S II official outside of my conversation with their customer services...
[Galaxy S II General] FRLinux:
Which country is this?
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
UK! I love o2 been with them for over 10 years but with recent price hikes and such I'll be leaving them soon..
[Galaxy S II General] ice_coffee:
Tesco are actually using the O2 network (as tesco don't own their own network) so after my tesco mobile experience I can well believe O2 are also crap with data. I will be going back to paying Voda's extortionate prices, as the saying goes "you get what you pay for"
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Are you sure? I thought that all othe uk networks will be getting it in June
[Galaxy S II General] RaspyYeti:
I was in carphone warehouse livingston today and they said they are selling it from May 1st with the possibility for them having stock in beforehand.
[Galaxy S II General] Jazazze:
Heh, I went into my local CPW today and got shunned with a "We don't even have any Xoom's yet" response. Because obviously Motorola being slow with shipments has lots to do with Samsung. :rolleyes:

But if Livingston is selling from the 1st, that kind of fills me with hope and confidence that I can play with my new GSII on the bank holiday! :cool:
[Galaxy S II General] RaspyYeti:
Sounds like you shouldn't get it from that shop.
[Galaxy S II General] awesome-member:
same here mate. my contract runs out this month so i'll be switching to giff gaff or 3. o2's way overpriced and their hsdpa is a joke.i don't know yet what to choose .....giffgaff- cheap price good cellular coverage(uses o2's network ) OR 3....cheap good internet speed**depending upon your location*** but ****TY cellular coverage.
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
+1 giffgaff

i switched over in jan to giffgaff from o2. excellent deals from them. coverage is under o2 so its top class, hsdpa is super speedy. hughly recommended.
[Galaxy S II General] ice_coffee:
I am very interested in this, I am able to go to www.speedtest.net and run it on my current galaxy S, I would be very interested in hearing your results as using O2 via tesco gets me 0.5 ~ 1 mbps where as voda could get 4 mbps.
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
hi, unfortunely i am unable to test it on my tg01 as it doesnt support flash in its web browser.

but my Galaxy Tab has a giffgaff sim too, so i'll try it later! (its flat on battery atm)
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
Below are my speedtest results for Normal o2 via 3G:

Test 1:

Download: 3.59 Mbps

Upload: 1.72 Mbps

Ping: 100 ms

Test 2:

Download: 2.86 Mbps

Upload: 1.66 Mbps

Ping: 90 ms

Test 3:

Download: 3.40 Mbps

Upload: 1.58 Mbps

Ping: 97 ms

Not bad! Used London server.

Would also like to know how GiffGaff compares.

There's an app for that! Speedtest app in the market.
[Galaxy S II General] fracmo2000:
I would also be intrested in moving to giffgaff...if its cheaper/better?

ie, the sgs2 (16gb) is £500 from expansys

18 months x 15giffgaff (for unlimited internet, use skype/whatsapp if you use the 400mins) = £270

Total = £770

But if you get a deal from say tmobile (see here)

http://www.buymobilephones.net/mobile-phones/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II/30,72930,All,tt1,ct1

Phone costs £20

Monthly cost £30 (600 mins, 500 txts unlimited internet)

Total = £540

Or am i missing something? The cheaper giffgaff is only 20mb per day :(
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
Where did you get the 20mb a day? It's unlimited!

Do you mean the £5 goodybag were you don't get unlimited internet and are charged 20p a day for 1mb to 20mb?

The reason most go for Sim Only is that your not tied down to a lenghty contract! With the Giff Gaff goody bag you have to top up each month, for example 1st month go for £15 bag, you then realise you only used 200mins out of the 400, for the next month you can top up £10 and go on that goody bag which gives you 300 mins, I think that's how it works! Etc etc.

You are always free to move to another provider if the right Sim Only deal comes through so you have that freedom of choice! The reason I go sim only is that I like to change my phones now and then so I can sell the phone and use the funds to buy a new phone and know that I am not tied down to paying £30 per month.
[Galaxy S II General] fracmo2000:
Below are my speedtest results for Normal o2 via 3G (hsdpa)

Test 1:

Download: 3.51 Mbps

Upload: 1.78 Mbps

Ping: 147 ms

Test 2:

Download: 3.61 Mbps

Upload: 1.78 Mbps

Ping: 153 ms

Test 3:

Download: 3.15 Mbps

Upload: 1.78 Mbps

Ping: 136 ms

Used Aberdeen server
[Galaxy S II General] WagTwo:
Im using T-Mobile

Download: 350 kbps

Upload: 120 kbps

I live in London(ealing)

This is for the 3G btw
[Galaxy S II General] fracmo2000:
Ah, my mistake...i see now that the £10 deal is also unlimited...but the tmobile deal still works out cheaper. Are you chosing the giffgaff route so your not tied down...or am i missing something else? Have you gotten the handset + sim for cheaper?

Sorry for all the questions

Edit - seen your reply...thought that was the case but wasnt sure if I had overlooked something. I might still go down the tmobile 18month route...just to save a bit of $. Cheers mate
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
Wow that is poor from T-Mobile!

Re read my original post I edited it.
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Yes!! Go to giffgaff! Itds cheap!!

£10 a month

Unlimited gg to gg calls + text

250 mins

Unlikited text

Unlimited interent

Tell me what other networks have that deal ? :P
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Mate, ill try the speedtest on gg later :)
[Galaxy S II General] ice_coffee:
That is pathetic from T-mobile, It is well known that they over sold those web n walk dongles and their network could not cope, they also could not afford to upgrade their network.

Maybe now they are merged with Orange they will be able to improve things.
[Galaxy S II General] ice_coffee:
So where do we stand with the networks

T-Mobile=350 Kbps (absolutely appalling)

3 = 2Mbps (limited by 3 for customers not using a mobile broadband dongle network capable of 7.2 Mbps)

Tesco = 1Mbps (reselling O2 network)

Vodafone= 4Mbps real world usage (upto 7.2 Mbps advertised)

O2= 3.5 Mbps (probably upto 7.2Mbps as up to 3.6 would not manage such a good speed)

GiffGaff =? (reselling O2 network)
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
Would also like to see if anyone is on talkmobile who now offer unlimited internet aswell they are vodafone resellers.

Nice comparison.
[Galaxy S II General] Beards:
The T-Mobile on 3G is about the same for me:-

Download = 361kbps

Upload = 84kbps

Ping = 156ms

However, same phone under my home fibre optic wifi it jumps up to:-

Download = 29773kbps

Upload = 8669kbps

Ping = 39ms
[Galaxy S II General] ice_coffee:
I think we are going a little off topic with the home broadband stats !
[Galaxy S II General] Beards:
Says he promoting his 50MB/s broadband speed in his sig :D

But yes..... I agree... it is very easy to meander off topic.
[Galaxy S II General] jeezus:
Its not in his sig. He did actually post it. :D

Heh, and that broadband is slow. ;)
[Galaxy S II General] ice_coffee:
SLOW, SLOW ? ;) I live in the UK not Korea, it is not yet common here to have 1Gbps broadband to the home, 100Mbps is just about to come to my area, and that is about the quickest for residential broadband in the UK. :D
[Galaxy S II General] MoonRaven:
Well it actually shows that the phone itself CAN reach higher speeds. Ah well...
[Galaxy S II General] Ayrlupine:
Anyone ever dealt with http://www.buymobilephones.net before?

I'm looking at the 24 month at £32 "o2 300 Internet" deal with the handset being £20 up front, and I'd love to know when the website generally charge for the phone, how reliable they are etc. etc.

I also just fired off an email to o2 asking if I could change the 500MB of a deal I get with a third party company to £1GB for an extra £4/m (The o2 website says 300 minutes with unlimited texts is £26/m with a data bolt on of 500MB costing £6/m more, which matches the £32/m deal I'm looking at... So I'm basically asking if I can change the bolt on, and I'd be paying more so I don't see why not!)
[Galaxy S II General] dadudo2000:
Bad news . . . . . .. . from Amazon :-/

Just got the worst email ever . . . . .

Hello,

Unfortunately, the release date for the item(s) listed below was changed by the supplier, and we need to provide you with a new estimated delivery date based on the new release date:

"Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II 16 GB Sim-Free Smartphone"

Estimated arrival date: May 05 2011 - May 13 2011

One of Amazon's aims is to provide a convenient and efficient service; in this case, we have fallen short. Please accept our sincere apologies.

You have not been charged for this item. We do not debit money from your payment card until just before your items are dispatched. We will send you a dispatch confirmation email on the date of dispatch.

Sincerely,

Customer Service Department

Amazon.co.uk

Bla bla bla just to say that shipping will be delayed . . . . . . . :-(
[Galaxy S II General] Beards:
Not delayed but more in line now with Samsungs release policy.

They never could release the product before May 1st and obviously these new dates is now the earliest their procurement department can obtain the item.

This is the trouble with certain sellers ~ they either give false info to lure you into placing an order or simply don't bother to check with the manufacturer for accurate information.

That is why I never ever buy from a seller who does not have a direct access of communication with the manufacturer.
[Galaxy S II General] dadudo2000:
Yep you're right and I knew that. I just hoped they had some early stock . . . . . Ordered beginning of April and thought I was getting luck. So now we have to wait and in the mean time enjoy each others company . . . . ;-)
[Galaxy S II General] Beards:
If they had of had stock before the release date I wouldn't have called that getting lucky; I would have called it a 'grey import'.

I know all of us were so hoping the SGSII would come early but as they say "it all comes to those who wait". :)
[Galaxy S II General] DVC1985:
I got the same email, however in mine it said May 3rd. I still cancelled it though, you can get £25 cashback through Quidco if you get it from Expansys. Makes the phone £475 delivered.
[Galaxy S II General] dadudo2000:
Hi M8

Thanks for your reply.

Unfortunately I'm not from the UK so not sure if these offers apply to me. Will have to wait a couple more days/weeks. :-/

Thanks nevertheless.
[Galaxy S II General] TMaLuST:
I preordered mine on 14th of April, the avaibility is still unchanged on 30th of April and delivery date is between 3rd / 7th of may.. Let's cross fingers :)
[Galaxy S II General] travisb:
I asked a guy in the Orange shop in Chester on Saturday, and he told me he was expecting stock in early May.
[Galaxy S II General] walk.away:
Ah, I had this same problem. You need to go to a T-Mobile shop and do speed test in front of them and prove that you've got a limited speed. They have put you on the non-android (/smartphone) data plan "by accident". So get an assistant manager/someone who knows what they are doing to run speedtest on their handset instore and compare. They should realise the mistake.

But it seems to be a common occurrence, they must save a lot of money from people not realising they havent got full internet.
[Galaxy S II General] awesome-member:
wtf people i am on o2 and i get ****y speed less then 0.7 mbps.i have actually been using o2 i phone sim so i doubt they have put me under non smartphone user. have they have been capping my speed without my knowledge for more then a year????. cant upload my screen capture of speed test.here is the url

http://img855.imageshack.us/f/sc20110417134029.png/
[Galaxy S II General] walk.away:
I had gone 8 months (i dont tend to get good signal at my university/home) then when i went to my gfs in london i tested it. No matter where I was the max would be 0.34/.35, also the upload was faster than the download! So went to a t-mobile shop and they sorted it. Maybe I couldve claimed some cashback but it hadnt affected me all that much, if it happened now as I commute and live in london I'd want the contract cancelled.

So here is hoping if the SGS2 has hspa+ then there is a contract to enable it and not cap it.

*EDIT* Also, my data was being overused, if you go over your providers "fair use policy" they will cap your data speed.

Old T-mob contracts for android at 3gb.

New T-mob contracts 500mb, similar for most other "unlimited" packages aswell. (Not 3's one plan)
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
Wow those are poor! Ask them to change it to the normal web bolt on and see if that works but those are poor!

Been reading the GffGaff forums and most users seem to be suffering with low speeds like yours as well considering the run off o2s network as well!
[Galaxy S II General] awesome-member:
O2 i thought we were friends :'(

I am not going back to O2.if it was just network being slow i would have stayed but actually capping my speed without my knowledge ( seriously i would sue O2 if i could).... once i had a really important(i mean really important) document about 1.2 MB size to download and i tried to use my phone to do it. it just would not download and would always break connection in 60% or 80%. i went ahead and bought a three mobile broadband dongle. NO i was not tethering i just wanted to download onto my phone and then transfer into my notebook. three was pretty fast compared to o2.

Actually i will try to get my pac code from o2 today. i will also be unsubscribing from their other services.
[Galaxy S II General] awesome-member:
and now i have my PAC code. and i have ordered a giffgaff sim.
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
Guys I've managed to get a GiffGaff sim and have tested Speedtest seeing as though I'm at various offices today from work Ill post the results tonight, tests takem from Whitechapel and Clapham and will post my tests from home as well!
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Glad you joined giffgaff! Its community is gradually expanding!