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[HTC Sensation] DazzXP:
well i read all 56 pages for the last hours. lol i am still torn between the two. I have never used a htc device for the last few phones have been Samsung, currently using the Galaxy S and love it, but would like better flash video performance. I did order a Galaxy S II but then cancelled and preordered the HTC Sensation but now having second thoughts. I don't think a A8 dual core is going to remotly compete with a A9 dual cote. I love super AMOLED better then my friends Desire HD in sun light but the increased rez of the Sensation is so tempting. I am looking to give a try of sence 3 i also like touch wiz, i like to have my menu organised.

i preordered the sensation for t-mobile 18mth contract for £30.

At least the sensation has swipe too. However i am sick of the all plastic feel, after having the Samsung Omina 7 which all metal felt nice.
[HTC Sensation] lbingham:
2 cents

I know it's getting late in the game now, but here's my 2 cents. This should be pretty unbiased having come from a G1 which I loved, and now I'm a Vibrant owner. Both devices were tweaked and both clearly ran better with modded kernels and drivers. So, I don't feel super dependent on the manufacturer updates.

Samsung seems to have a really good grasp on the major points of the phone being performance driven. I'm not up to date on the two different processors here, but I imagine that the Samsung chip is going to be better than the HTC.

Obviously, HTC had a better GPS than the Samsung phones I've had, and this was huge to me. I notice the browser is actually really dependent on the data coming back from positioning along with a few apps and the GPS issue on the Samsung made me want to throw the phone a couple of times. I was very happy with the GPS on the G1.

These things aside, I'm sure they're both going to be amazing phones and there will be some buyers remorse, and some buyers relief on both sides. This comes down to a timing issue for me. My girlfriends mother has an upgrade, and she wants my Vibrant. I'm going to take the upgrade in a couple of weeks and get the Sensation. I can't wait for the S2 because she won't wait that long.
[HTC Sensation] DazzXP:
Yeah gps is pretty poor but at times pretty good, if i recall it was due to the small recicever so need a good signal.
[HTC Sensation] FishTaco:
No, the main purpose is to say why the other guy's (or gal's) phone sucks so much!
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
well at least this specific thread is!! :p
[HTC Sensation] maazali:
I want the Samsung Galaxy S 2 only if it is coming to T-mobile (i am with wind and t - mobile phones are said to work with wind) So I am seriously hoping that Samsung and T-mobile to something and get this on t-mobile !!

But considering how the Sensation will be coming to T-mobile I am not sure anymore. :'(
[HTC Sensation] jRi0T68:
Major samsung announcement on the 24th in NYC. Speculated to be US SGSII release. I've got an upgrade, but will wait to hear from US TMO users of both phones before deciding.
[HTC Sensation] harveydent:
+1

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[HTC Sensation] MaxReality:
If this thread was on Harry Hill's TV Burp, you know what he will say to decide which is best...

FIGHT!!!!

p.s. if your gonna discuss who's the daddy of specs, checkout the Olympus SZ-30MR Camera. Off topic i know, but by golly it's tasty. Lol
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
Just thought I'd share this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69FaV6xnfvg

Looks like a pretty final build seeing as Vodafone preorders are expected to be with customers in 3 days...

Is that a small bit of lag I see, on the homescreen????

Or is it just me?
[HTC Sensation] :
All android devices lag. Nothing is perfect. Android uses a whole lot more resources than most other mobile operating system. Even the Samsung galaxy 2 lags. Android has no hardware acceleration.
[HTC Sensation] fz9999:
It's just you :p
[HTC Sensation] cqms13:
video not available in my country ???? WTF????
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
hmmm. It's from the UK, I know that US can't play it. It's off of a British Gadget program. thats probably why.
[HTC Sensation] Bratag:
If you just want to see the content then I used this. Quality not great but gives you an idea. I didn't see any lag myself.

http://www.daveproxy.co.uk/browse.p...tL3dhdGNoP3Y9NjlGYVY2eG5mdmc_3D/b13/fnorefer/
[HTC Sensation] nirvana2506:
as much as I love android, I have to say that android lags (even if it is only microlag)...no matter what device..except the galaxy s2's browser (which has gpu acceleration)...compare it to WP7 and iOS...WP7 has the smoothest browser/homescreen (but I dont like the OS), then comes iOS (dont like it either) and then android...

I hope Ice Cream will come with some gpu acceleration :)
[HTC Sensation] agent.m:
My 2p worth. There's a lot of comparison pages articles and so called sensation reviews that throw up stats instead of facts. The galaxy s2 has been out a few weeks now. The sensation isn't out yet so until someone gives a thorough review we don't know how the sensation will fare. Ive had a play with the sensation and liked the look but to be honest it wasn't that big enough a leap from my desire my main concerns about the sensation are the battery and the camera and sound quality being a "media" smartphone it needs to deliver or face being classed as the androids version of the LG Viewty. The Galaxy s2 had an instant wow factor I really liked the look of the device and the screen if amazing. My only thing is touchwiz which didn't look too bad my wife has galaxy s and I don't touchwiz on that. The thing is I played with the HTC flyer 2wks ago and thought it would be a cool device until I read the review today it got 3 stars in techradar which is POOR for a HTC device. For me im gonna wait for the sensation review hopefully by Friday. There is no way of knowing how good this phone is unless it's been reviewed properly .
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
just a note on touchwiz 4.0. The sites (and many people) are saying that it is VASTLY improved. It's greatly improved (from what I understand) touchwiz 3.0 which almost everyone hated.
[HTC Sensation] agent.m:
Thanks. Read it was a lot better and it seemed good from what I saw. Always better when people that have used it give the thumbs up.
[HTC Sensation] umd:
3 stars is not fair at all. It's got 8/10 from Engadget. And what I saw from videos it's a good tablet. Very snappy, fast and smooth. I think Sensation will get 9/10 easily.
[HTC Sensation] ehrine:
It might have only gone up today, but the info says its from the Gadget Show Live event. That was a month ago so I doubt very much it's a final release build.
[HTC Sensation] Jerry1130:
Anyone notice the case for the Sensation can easily be replaced because of it's construction. This and the software is really making me lean towards the Sensation. From my previous HTC customer service experiences, they are very good with giving away new parts if you ask nicely.
[HTC Sensation] piimp:
Which case are you talking about as not all cases are made the same..
[HTC Sensation] EinPaul:
My deepest sympathy! :p
[HTC Sensation] MrYiff:
Of course lets not forget that if HTC's recent phones have been any example then there will be no AOSP (or any custom ROMs), for the Sensation either :eek:
[HTC Sensation] denis_y_s:
The 540x960 screen resolution on the HTC Sensation is HUGE plus for me compare to the 480x800 on the SGS2..
[HTC Sensation] AllGamer:
540x960 is definitely nice, but most apps in the market are not quite yet compatible with the higher resolution

i wonder how are they going to dupe the name for that size :)

if 480x800 apps are already dubbed HD, then 540x960 apps will be what? SHD (Super HD) :D
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
A nice comparison from GSMArena : (not posted yet if you wonder)

http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-sensation-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-comparison-table/
[HTC Sensation] pookguy88:
not sure if it's that important to anyone else but the Sensation has a LED notification light... I really missed that when going from my N1 to NS...
[HTC Sensation] BoogWeed:
I'm still pretty dead set on SGSII but I have to say qHD screen on 4.3" will look sweet, especially with Sense 3.0, which is easily the best Android Skin.
[HTC Sensation] sottyc:
I want the evo 3d if that ever comes to GSM UK
[HTC Sensation] sckc23:
The qHD screen, good build quality and the new Sense UI all seem great on HTC Sensation but i for one is fed up with poor camera on HTC phones.
[HTC Sensation] mariosergio2112:
Great phone. My next phone, next year, is gonna be a HTC.
[HTC Sensation] zephiK:
http://androidandme.com/2011/04/news/an-lg-nexus-3-heres-what-we-know/

Nexus 3 is being rumored. I'll wait ;) have fun with HTC Sense though
[HTC Sensation] dudeimgeorge:
not worth moving off my nexus s..and thats not because its 'better', heres why..

..1gb of available app storage...

..786mb memory..

..a dual core cpu on a battery thats similar capacity of nexus s but with a more resource intensive screen = bad battery life...

..no nfc chip (it will be a big plus by the end of the year)

ill just stop there because its VERY easy to weigh in on the pros but here is the deal... all in all, the nexus S is a perfect phone for now, a great stepping stone to something else in the less nearer future (haha).

my concern is i am so content with this battery life, anything else, no matter how much bigger, faster it is (which, honestly isnt that HUGE of a leap) doesnt cut it for me for the time being.

i tolerated the lack of a SD card, and honestly, got by JUST FINE...this phone has finally stabilized and it has paid with flying colors. still off contract (3 years straight) with a phenomenal phone rate.

in conclusion: ill see what we got in store come 2 years from now:D

did i say 2 years? i meant the next google phone...
[HTC Sensation] Quist:
I couldn't agree more and I love Sense.

While other manufacturers use the phone camera as a user's window on the world and a true media creation device, HTC consistently just see it as a little hole on the back side of the phone and the quality of photos from their cameras is on a par with that analogy.
[HTC Sensation] Stavgust:
Hardware wise i think the SGS2 beats the "Sensation". With the excepetion of pros and cons of the screens.

But if you look on build quality and polish i think the HTC is the winner as it looks more robust and has cleaner design than the SGS2.

I'll think I have to play with both of them in a store before considering which to buy. But as of now I'm leaning towards getting the SGS2.
[HTC Sensation] DKYang:
Ugh, why can't 4" screen be the standard? :(

I find it funny that they are the only ones saying the next Nexus device is going to be a phone while everyone else says tablet. Gonna wait to see how long it'll take for this rumor to spread.
[HTC Sensation] zephiK:
They were also the first website to announce the rumors of the Nexus S. Androidandme have reliable sources.
[HTC Sensation] denis_y_s:
I love 4.3" screens :D
[HTC Sensation] csmall:
I will be getting this or the galaxy s II. I hope they both can be root'n'ROM'd
[HTC Sensation] moparman:
SGS2 all the way..

I love HTC but Sensation is so ugly it makes me sick.

If it had a another design and Samoled + i would think about it.

But im sure Sensation have good build quality and Sense 3.0 and the lockscreen looks wonderful
[HTC Sensation] Nameless21:
love the sensation user interface Here

would love to see it on the sgs2.
[HTC Sensation] agent.m:
I'll have to check that review I too thought it was harsh but they tested it and I personally trust their opinion. Granted that the price and lack of honeycomb plus poor battery was the reason. There was no mention of onlive. On paper it should get a good score but until it's been reviewed I will hold off pre orders.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
GSII!! :D :D + Super AMOLED

PLUS

:) 50% sub-pixel increase :)
[HTC Sensation] fz9999:
The Samsung does have a slightly bigger battery then the HTC but no-one knows how much difference it will make until people start using the Sensation.

My HD2 never lasts 2 days with my usage and I expect neither the Samsung nor the HTC will either, so I expect I'll just have to charge the Sensation every night like I do at the moment with my HD2.
[HTC Sensation] Ernie89:
Why should the SII have a clearly better battery? According to the HTC website the capacity of the Sensation battery is 1520 mAh. So the SII has an additional 100 mAh. Okay, the S-AMOLED could be more efficient, but how much more?

I don't think you can conclude anything as long as the Sensation hasn't been released.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
so long as (in the long term) it lasts for 1 day of standard usage, i'll be fine! (something which my Desire can't do if I leave data on, even though I've turned off all syncing and have no widgets that use data!) :p
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
My MT4G gets well over a day with widgets and data always on. I wouldn't worry about it.
[HTC Sensation] JayBachatero:
Not going to say that I don't care about battery life, but if I can go through the day without having to charge then I'm good. I don't need the phone to last me 2+ days of normal usage.
[HTC Sensation] agent.m:
If the battery gets the thumbs up in review the bump charging will be an added bonus.
[HTC Sensation] :
I actually have to laugh for people who think that the sg2 has better battery life. 130 mah doesn't make a difference. You do know that super amoled was significant battery drainer. In the original sg. Super amoled plus is just a saying like it saves battery. That's like saying the contour display makes a difference. If that's the case the 16:9 ratio super LCD qhd display makes a big difference. First time ill mention engadget but the HTC flyer had super LCD and they said it could be seen in direct sunlight.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
Not saying it's better but you could say the same for the Sensation...more pixels = more batter usage.
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Then, why don't you just buy your SamSux wtf are you doing in HTC thread talking ****t?
[HTC Sensation] :
Please post facts with proof. Before you try to justifying the sg2 is better. HTC we know they won't but on stock are perfectly equal to the sg2. Maybe HTC kernel is under volted. Then the sensation would last longer than the sg2 kernel with stock voltages. 130 mah won't make a difference.
[HTC Sensation] MaxReality:
To sum up...

HTC Sensation - Has soul.

SG2 - Has the wow factor. (Wow it looks huge) and (Wow it feels cheap).

The rest is just noise.

The Sensation has plenty of faults, but overall as a package, it is the same reason why people are besotted with the iphone.

Was really looking forward to getting an SG2, but was not wowwed. HD2 raised the bar for quality.
[HTC Sensation] Razius:
My Nexus One gets 2 days with mild usage. That is with data on, sync of facebook, twitter, e-mail, weather; and daily texting. Gets one day when I have all that plus phone calls and watching movies (usually don't watch all the way through).

Side note: Times for sync: Facebook - 2 hours, Twitter - 2 hours, Weather - 3 hours, E-mail - syncs every time an e-mail comes in.
[HTC Sensation] jRi0T68:
Must you always be so childish in your defense of HTC? This topic is comparing the 2 devices. I haven't read any rule that states one may not speak highly of a competitor's device in an HTC thread.

A mature, intelligent person would realize that they both have good and bad points. It's up to the individual to weigh the importance of the differences, and choose the device that best suits them.
[HTC Sensation] k87:
+1

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[HTC Sensation] daivik:
............

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[HTC Sensation] Virtue94:
+A billion if I could. And yes, they each have their good and bad points. For example, Sensation has great build quality but it has awful codec support. The SGSII however has the best codec support I've ever seen on a phone (Even MKV which is amazing) but its build quality is debatable. I personally don't care if it's made entirely of plastic, all I'm gonna be staring at is the screen anyway.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
+1. Forums really need a subtle like button. :p
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
just a few videos worth looking at... not in english but u will get the point phone is awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Y0OcmPMCY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmQbpaOo9gs
[HTC Sensation] Sofly999:
cool thanks, looks like the sensation runs smoothly :)
[HTC Sensation] bubigrega:
And as I read on sgs 2 forum they have big problems with battery life, drivers for gpu (some aps are not working) and with some Google aps (youtube, mytracs,...) I think I'll wait for some tests of sensation. I wish I waited when I first bought sgs. :( and my dhd is still great phone. I can wait :)
[HTC Sensation] iznee:
Just to give my views on this topic.

I have been using htc devices since the dopod days and my last htc device is the DHD..last week i got my galaxy s2..and i find it an amazing phone.

First time booting up the phone i was overwhelmed by the vibrancy of the display..the display on GS2 is perfectly readable in bright sunlite even with sun glases on..and i really mean bright sunlite becoz im in the middle east rite now.

The phone is super fast, with no lag.it plays 1080p movies in mkv format brilliantly.

comparing with DHD this phone's external speaker is really loud

About gps i find my DHD does better tracking of satellites that are already locked but on GS2 is not totally crap as people say.im using IGo now and has never experience lost of signal or inaccuracy.

I find the battery life is amazing on GS2..with screen briteness in auto and a colorful wallpaper and the way i trash the phone it last me about 10-11 hours.on my dhd with display briteness set to low and blackwallpaper and all to save battery..the same trashing gives me about 4-5 hours.

Things i dont like on the GS2 is touchwiz..although there are some good features in it, i still think sense gives a better experience..

And the phone feels really light compared to my DHD.

the only issue i am having with GS2 right now is that switching between 2g/3g is not as smooth as on DHD..it causes a period of lost of data connection when it switches from 3g to 2g in weak signal area.

Regarding support i personally think they have learnt from all the cursing people gave them on the original galaxy..and they are trying to do a better job. since the launch on 1st may they are already a few firmware updates to adress issues complaint by users.

I personally got the GS2 becoz i couldnt wait long enough for the sensation to be launched..as i need to replace my DHD becoz of bad battery life,bad external speaker and i really needed the front camera now for video calls.
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Bite ne... Talk about mature? Your Samsung thread is much worst than HTC thread... They're the most childish bunch cry babies i've ever seen... People buying SamSux and all they ask if there's any rom to flash. All the anal elite troll came out and bash those guys. Like create your own rom. So screw you Samsuck.
[HTC Sensation] Omicron90:
Oh the irony...
[HTC Sensation] jRi0T68:
Who said I was going to buy a Samsung phone? I'm in this thread because the Sensation intrigues me.

All I'm saying is that there's no reason to post the way you do. I'll take your response as an answer to my question: "Yes."

Even my 10 yr old son is more respectful than you.
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
You should buy a SamSux it matches you go over GSII thread, and troll over there... see what's the outcome are.
[HTC Sensation] bassmonkey:
Seriously, if you were face to face would you really talk like that?
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
You don't see HTC people smack talking over SGII thread we don't even bother to... Cause its plastic crap. Waste of our times.. but the SamSux troll are everywhere pathetic. Go play with your unlock bootloader.. let me see which rom im gonna flash.. uhm... TouchWiz, TouchWiz, TouchWiz, TouchWiz etc.. hahahaha
[HTC Sensation] tjjensen23:
U seem mad. Waiting for telstra to get the sensation so I can play around with it
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
lols

you sir are my idol... i do go in the sgs2 forum and look around but i dont dare say a word but they happily jump in this thread and lie(yes i said lie) about how great the phone is when in reality their is no other phone to compare it to.. an i actually used a g2x today for the first time and it wasnt as bad as people made it seem.
[HTC Sensation] jRi0T68:
Actually, I've never seen an HTC fan or Samsung fan act the way you do, epsix. I don't usually put people on ignore, but you are an exception so I need to. You could have just been civil.

On topic, I'm eager to see this phone hit user's hands. It's got a lot going for it. If the display is as good, color wise, as the LCD on the G2X, and the audio through headphones is good, I may use my upgrade to get it. Audio quality is of high importance to me. Really, though, I'll likely be waiting until this and Samsung's next great device are out for T-Mobile and the verdict on development and actual performance is known.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
How do you ignore? I think I need to do the same.

ANYWAY. The wait is nearly over!! Vodafone UK says it expects the Sensation to be with those who pre-ordered TODAY! So hopefully a tech site has pre-ordered one, IF NOT, HOPEFULLY, there'll be some nice, tech-savvy, person that is willing to do some kind of FULL review... :) Let the TRUE, comparisons begin!! :p
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
just hours until someone receives their bundle of joy..
[HTC Sensation] Sofly999:
Yeah, thats so awesome! I should go to sleep now, it's 2AM here :(
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
yea 2 am here too but im looking for some good news... this is almost as bad as when i was waiting for my son to pop into the world since i wasn't at the hospital
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
As I've mentioned previously in this thread, I used to own a Vibrant. After switching to the MT4G, I still frequented the Vibrant thread, to see if Samsung would actually do something to improve that catastrophe of a phone. One day, I made some critical comments about the phone's GPS performance and the RFS file system. I was quickly attacked by a gang of Sammy fanboys and accused of being a troll. How dare I insult their precious, right? One of them went as far as stating that I no longer belong in that forum, since I don't own a Vibrant anymore.
[HTC Sensation] lafaya:
Like climate skeptics, SGS fanboys still believe that the GPS issue is software based even though the majority of techies have agreed it's a hardware design flaw.

I'm looking forward to the HTC Sensation. It seems like a solid quality product. Hardware specs has never been the final say of how good a phone is. SGS is an example of that. Crappy software made the SGS look **** compared to the Desire.
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
It's actually a combination of firmware and hardware flaws, which makes it even worse than a hardware flaw! In fact, the SGS forum has an extensive thread on how to implement a hardware fix.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=878970

As far as hardware specs not being a determining factor of a phone's quality, I'm with you on that one. If the Sensation wasn't coming out, I'd either get the LG2X or wait around for another dual core phone. Anything but Samsung.
[HTC Sensation] daivik:
The issue can be solved by simply updating some carrier/ATP settings.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
I'd love for that to be true, but I seriously doubt it. I've done all the LBSTest and HW tweaks on the SGS and the GPS is still flaky. Some days it's fine, other times it's awful. I've seen no evidence there's a simple ATP fix, but I'm always open to suggestions if you want to provide details.
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
I respectfully disagree. When I owned the Vibrant, I tried every GPS fix available, including the patch (that bricked my phone, by the way, causing me to ODIN back to stock), the LBSTest method, and whatever else was available. When I finally installed the patch via ODIN, it enabled the phone to get a satellite lock, but the accuracy was still off by about 2-3 blocks from where I actually was. I remember driving on the Belt Parkway in Brooklyn, with the GPS placing me in the middle of Narrows (a 2 mile wide waterway between Brooklyn and Staten Island).

Again, I've tried every fix under the sun. None of them worked. Samsung screwed the pooch with the Galaxy S.