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[HTC Sensation] kable:
A video on YouTube I saw had the Samsung S2 getting noticeably longer battery life than the Sensation. For me it will probably come down to which is available first in my area.
[HTC Sensation] :
Future samsung devices to not have locked bootloaders. http://www.androidguys.com/2011/04/15/future-samsung-devices-locked-bootloaders/ lets hope HTC changes that as well.
[HTC Sensation] android_master:
Yes,wonder what happen to them with Incredible & Desire S:rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
Well the GSII will have more power, more complete specs and its screen just blows away everything HTC can do and to finish I rather prefer the design of the samsung than that ugly thick bar from HTC. Then the choice is quicly done... I still think that sense 3D is better than TW4 but both are worse than some other launchers of my taste
[HTC Sensation] cybermessiah:
Been a fan of htc for ages and loyal to them. But the Samsung outdoes HTC in this battle, for the following reasons...

The Super AMOLED plus screen blows any SLCD out of the water in terms of contrast, color saturation and outdoor readability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko6httu38UQ

Far superior sound in the Samsung [the Galaxy S uses Wolfson's WM8994 sound chip].. and Sammy have a deal with Wolfson to continue using their great sound chips in the Galaxy line]... sorry to say but way superior to the Sensations most likely TI audio chip.

Superior Battery 1650mAh as compared to Senations 1520mAh. I am so way over HTC abysmal battery life in higher- end devices.

Sammys 16/32 GB internal storage is what should be the norm now for most handets..... HTC offer a measly 1Gb internal storage... which is my opinion just pitiful!!

The Galaxy S II has almost 25% more ram than the Sensation.

And last and to me the most important... Its most likely that the Galaxy S II wont have a locked bootloader. HTC Sensation most likely will, as it seems the way they are going.

Shame HTC on you..... because flashing different Roms is part of what makes Android such a great system.

I do like HTC Sense a lot, but u know... since I mod and flash roms, I suddenly realise that I dont use any sense launcher at all [Launcher Pro for me]. TouchWiz mightn't be as sweet as Sense, but there's plenty of other great eye-candy apps to dress up ur phone.

Sorry HTC... but ur choice in locking bootloaders really makes me turn to another device.

In the end, the Samsung Galaxy S II offers far superior hardware specs and is wont be locked for the user who wants to mod freely.:D
[HTC Sensation] mjharis:
cybermessiah that are the facts why im still not sure. :D

I love my HD2 with the possibility to flash awesome Roms, as i want.

But the screen isnt so great, i hope htc will use better ones, but it looks like they dont :/.

I've seen ssome previews of the SII and men the Amoled blows every other Screen away.

Mhm, but isnt the Galaxy II screen a bit smaller than the Sensation?

Im confused what to order, maybe i will wait for the next generation, but i will NEVER buy an apple!:/

EDIT: But a Con for SII is that it feels like a piece of plastic, thats what HTC did better in the past.
[HTC Sensation] cybermessiah:
@mjharis

I think ur correct in that HTC are able to have nice aluminium chassis and designs. Dunno what the SGII will feel like. For me the screen is the most important thing.... and it tkes up most of the SGII and is really top-notch quality. I personally put a gelskin on all my HTC phones, so the build quality isnt a concern, as long as its strudy and dont fall apart in my hands.:D

I figure that Im gonna buy my next phone based on under-the-hood specs, screen, internal storage and modability..... thats why Im gonna get the Sammy.

Still... I'm gonna wait to actually hold both and compare before I buy.

Maybe wait to hold both in ur hand and scrutinize them before u make ur final decision.;)
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
@mjharis

how do you know how it feels when you've never held it ??!

They apparently used a new textured/ruberised surface for the back that is scratch-free and smudges-free and feels alot more high quality than GS's backplate. And I'll never accept having ~3mm more thickness (!) for a somewhat better feel when it is held
[HTC Sensation] :
Screens are a matter of choice and ips display has better colors then super amoled. The more powerful your cores are the less ram you can use.
[HTC Sensation] cybermessiah:
As for the difference between qhd SLCD (Sensation) vs SAMOLED plus (Samsung Galaxy S2)...

Basically, I dont think qhd phones will really increase clarity that much more than SAMOLED plus 480x800. What it does give you is more real estate... ie You may be able to see more text on web pages without having to zoom in.

Its also a relatively new resolution, so it could also be the case that you will have to wait some time for devs to adapt their programs/games to support qhd natively.

Quite a few people are also complaining that the SLCD qHD display in the recent Atrix isn't that sharp with its pentile pixel arrangement.... but cant be sur about the Sensations arrangement.

However, even at a higher resoulution like qhd..... its still SLCD vs AMOLED plus [they are different display technologies].

I prefer the SAMOLED screens over any kind of LCD/SLCD: no matter the resolution.

The viewing angles are so much better, the colors have so much more contrast so they really pop, and the response time is significantly better. And if it's SLCD, it probably won't match the SAMOLED in term of color vibrancy.

A main difference is that with SLCD technology (regardless of the screen resolution), you get glare from the side, which I don't like.

In the Samsung Galaxy S II 'Super AMOLED plus' has square RGB pixel structure, so it addressed the text sharpness issues previous Super AMOLED while retaining all the good characters of Super AMOLED display.

I say if you can read pixels on an 800x480 display resolution [regardless of SLCD or SAMOLED], you are holding the phone too closely in a manner unhealthy for your eyes.

Perhaps a video might help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmjY0s9BIws

Here, it looks clear that SAMOLED+ beats the other two in terms of color, contrast. The atrix screen [SLCD qhd] looks way too dull in color, contrast. The text clarity is hard to tell on video, but SAMOLED+ looks just as good as the other two if not better.

Ultimately, its going to come down to personal choice.:D
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
@Killbynature

- the screen on the HTC is a slcd not an IPS, to be objective even IPS (LG Optimus 2X) can't match SA+'s contrast, colors, viewing angles etc http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p2.php

- the GSII has the more available RAM than any other android phone to date => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkFQMq0oYPY
[HTC Sensation] victorinoxs:
tough call....I'll get whichever picked up by the CyanogenMod team :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] borodin1:
Funny thing is.... we still don't know for sure when either one will be available in US. I, for one, will not pick up a phone that doesn't have US warranty (especially not with $700 price tag like SG2 on pre-order)
[HTC Sensation] :
I know its a slcd im just saying that the display are matter of choice
[HTC Sensation] magnumrt562:
Specs alone, SGSII wins in every category. Having a captivate and a inspire at the moment, the samsung camera is better. The battery life is even with cooked roms an tweaks. And remember folks, the carriers delay the release of updates NOT the maker of the phone. IE AT&T Froyo. SGSII FTW
[HTC Sensation] FLAC Vest:
Lol, funny thing us, I actually planned on holding out and buying one unlocked to use on ATT. I had funds saved up for a while until I realized that, as aa college student, it would be a bit more logical to get a good computer (using netbook as only computer before) and bought myself a Mac.

I still have an upgrade so ill just use it on that when it comes out.
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
All you an@l d@ck head don't speak for me or any others here... i like Sense UI.. go buy your your SamSux,LG. LMAO HTC SENSATION here I come.. and CM7 has nothing to do with this thread. But you can can bet your ass Sensation will have CM.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
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[HTC Sensation] nicky041192:
Ill probably get the HTC Sensation. I love sense.

Touchwiz is boring IMO.
[HTC Sensation] rjayflo:
SGS2 easily got this. HTC is only good for its build and UI....but how many here stick with stock UI when you can switch to LP, ADW, Zeam, GO Launcher, etc?
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Thank you for your inputs, Samsung S II is the best. But i still like HTC Sensation. LMAO
[HTC Sensation] Spl4tt:
now that i know that the sensation has active noise cancelation i will most probably get that one.

but in the end, i just need a device wich has a big community, like my HD2 has.

i dont even care if i need to stay with my HD2, i just need a big community!

Sent from my HD2.
[HTC Sensation] Thracks:
Nobody knows which community will be big because neither phone is publicly available yet.
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
That's why SamSux troll are out in force.. hahahaha.. crack me up. SamSux can't even port lame TouchWiz to Nexus S... talk about huge dev community? Only Galaxy S international version have development. The rest are ****. Hahahaha
[HTC Sensation] DJ Yoshiman:
I don't know - the Atrix has that and most of us turned it off because it made the call quality unreasonable and lowered the volume, to boot.

Also, what is with HTC and being against putting huge memory in their phones? This looked like it almost matched up to SGS2 (even with only about 78% of the RAM of SGS2), but then I observed the internal memory being 1 GB and was brought right back to when I bought the HTC Desire.
[HTC Sensation] dragonthl:
Waiting for price :)
[HTC Sensation] FLAC Vest:
Just a heads up, there was a reported bug that was found to be the result of the volume problems; some of us experienced this (myself included) with the cancellation feature turned off.

I don't know if they fixed it yet as iI took mine back a week or so after I got it.
[HTC Sensation] :
Its hard to decide the sensation seems so much better on build quality alone. It will always beat samsungs crappy plastic. I personally don't like the fact its lighter than the vibrant. I like putting my phones in my back pocket and the fact it may crack in half just from me sitting on it. Makes it not worth it. 1gig is plenty of storage in guess people forgot about Apps to sd? Screen is a matter of preference i can see my screen fine at all angles on my g2 and mytouch 4g. I guess alot of people forget a phone is a phone in the end all dual core phones will relatively be the same since the apps will be coded properly. It's not like we are trying to play crysis on our phones they are only so capable of so much.

MIUI+LvBfskernel+launcher pro=fastest smoothest experience yet on android.
[HTC Sensation] phonex1:
HTC's phone cameras are almost always the worst compared to its competitors. This alone is the reason I always back down from an HTC phone. Samsung's galaxy camera was amazingly on par with the iPhone 4's camera and even competing good with Nokia's 12MP cam. Now if only that Xperia Arc was a dual core.....i wish. SE cameras are also pretty good.

After ditching a point and shoot 4 years ago, decent camera has become one of the must have features. And HTC needs to hire some people in that department, NOW.
[HTC Sensation] victorinoxs:
I agree. I guess it's not that HTC doesn't know their camera sucks. They probably spend too much on their Sense UI and cloud service development so they have to cut corners from hardwares. HTC is known for cutting corners on hardware parts since the WinMo old days, ie. crappy camera, small battery, ROM, RAM....etc, always inferior specs compared to competitors like Samsung; however, their software makes up for it....kind of....

I am always forced to use HTC phones due to aftermarket support. If HTC is gonna lock down their bootloader while Samsung is opening theirs up, I would love to give Samsung a try for my next phone.
[HTC Sensation] X46X:
HTC Change their cameras with Incredible S. Now foto from this camera is well :)
[HTC Sensation] Spl4tt:
i dont think that the second mic was the problem for the worse quality and volume..

the nexus one has this feature too, and there is no problem with it, its awsome (i got a nexus one too)

thats a point i dont understand either. why couldnt they just pack 1gb ram in the sensation? and atleast 1.5gb rom? :/

we already got the prices here in switzerland. maybe they are not exact, but they should be around this:

SGSII: CHF 679.- -> around 530 euro

Sensation: CHF 660.- -> around 520 euro

but i think they will even lower the prices..
[HTC Sensation] x-mann:
Onestly i read alot here about what phone is bether, and there is few things what i like to say here, first thing, im HTC user, and im still runing my hd2, and ill say it few words about my hd2 what they are making him special , they are Quality, sense and HTC US with support,still very good performances, and most important for me, its xda teams what they are geting out constantly new roms (im not gona mention that there is alot OS`s runing on this machine)and that guys, you wont get from Samsung :), by the way, its not all in the paper, as a phone servicer, im constantly geting alot Samsung with roms what they have integrated HTC Sense on it? do you have thinked about it why? Ill say becouse HTC sense with US is best lol, its not some US with 10 icons trowed on main screen, someone said samsung have 16gb integrated, ill put 32 gb sd, so? somebody says on benchmarks proccesor is bether, so what? how much speed do we want from those small machines? What programs we gona run on those pockets?with short words i wont change HTC for few bether spec :)

Sry for my gram mistakes.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
lol the samsung i9000 part is one of the most active forum here at xda (if not the most active) but yeah you won't find "those guys" for sammy's device your right... -_-'

We have everything you can dream about in ROMs and kernel more than you can test, trust me it's not that that you'll miss, and moreover since the sensation will have a locked bootloader ;)
[HTC Sensation] x-mann:
I dont want to make debates about which forum device is most active, but you can compare i9000 1,003 - treads and 216,962 posts against hd2 with 11,883	379,329(6.5 os) + 8,955	321,646 (android ) do not mention other OS`s what you can run on hd2 ,doest that make diference in numbers?
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Damn.... SamSux troll are out in force im telling ya they fear HTC, hahahaha. And there excuses.. lock bootloader. G2 was lock, glacier was locked and look what happened? Lame ass tw recook rebuild over and over again.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
Neither I want to make any debate, but if you give numbers at least don't give false ones -_- , the HD2 android developement forums have 200 and 90 threads for sd and nand android port. That's nice for a phone that was not designed for that OS, but barely at the level of 1000+ threads for the i9000.

When I searched I even figure out that NO OTHER android phone have the community of the i9000 android developement lol not even the most popular HTC's Desire (596 threads) and the EVO 4G (760 threads). Like I said don't worry about community, devs are here and up even at the GSII general forums to pre order their Sammy devices ;)

BTW I owned an HD2 and it was such a beast when it was out and I sold it 6 months after because the battery was too short (one of the main problem of HTC phones) but still it was a nice phone to play with :s , I'm just shocked by the level of dumbness of some HTC's troll (epsix ya) at least I rekon the cons of samsungs (TW) and the pros of HTC (build quality and UI) instead of just calling HTSux just because I'm buying another brand, I find it pretty pathetic :( after all that's just brands
[HTC Sensation] ajbk4life1:
i love sense so im going to get the Sensation. i barely have any apps on my phone so the internal memory isnt a problem.
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
@touness69, troll go back to your SamSux and rebuild your TouchWiz over and over again. LMAO I buy HTC because of build quality and Sense UI 3.0. You can take your SamSux piece of plastic crap and shove up your arse.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
O_O

Are you like 11 or 12 ?
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Ok, let's stop this nonesense, i do know that Samsung S II spec wise is better than HTC Sensation. But like I said.. i like HTC build quality and im a sucker for Sense UI that's all. And my apology if I over reacted :P
[HTC Sensation] cabnowhere:
HTC Sensation: "VGA fixed focus color camera"

Haven't seen any official HTC document stating this 1.3MP front camera...

On the HTC website it states: "VGA fixed focus color camera"

So to me this reads as a 0.3MP front-facing camera that seems similar to the ones used in the iPhone4 and the iPad2!!!

Can anyone confirm this or correct me if i'm wrong...? Thx!
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
Although I am not thrilled with the quality of the external speaker in my MT4G, I found the camera quality to be on par with that of the Samsung Vibrant. As I've mentioned in a different thread, I've experienced so many issues with the Vibrant (like many other users), I doubt I'll ever be purchasing another Samsung phone, regardless of the tech specs. Besides, the SGS2's specs are only marginally (if that) better than the Sensation's.
[HTC Sensation] ExMM:
Why is that?

Besides RAM and The Super AMOLED screen I don't see really that wise different in specs.

To me they are more or less at the same level..but I am totally agree with you, I prefer the built in quality of HTC.
[HTC Sensation] touness69:
Now that's a mature comment, u see no need for childish comments to give his opinion.

@Yukinok25, The screen alone is enough to give the GSII the lead spec wise, I mean c'mon what are you looking all the time besides the screen ??

but if it s not enough here is the other pros over the sensation, summed together they are barely "marginal" eh

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12838008&postcount=14
[HTC Sensation] Sofly999:
To me it's a no brainer. Even if the galaxy s2 as better spec I'll buy the sensation. I don't trust samsung and their build quality anymore. I've had two samsung portable devices in my life. One cellphone and one touchscreen mp3 player. I'm the kind of guy that takes real care of his stuff and both broke under a year. I opened both and I could repair the mp3 player because it had a cold welding on the jack. But the phone couldnt be repaired. It had a bus connection as thin as paper located in a very bad place so it ended up with a fissure. The electrical engineering on that phone was crap.

Plus, it seems that a lot of people had problems with their samsung smartphones (gps and whatnot). So HTC sensation it is :)
[HTC Sensation] ExMM:
Unsless you are watching movies or play games all day, i don't think the screen is such a big deal, at least not for me, and I am coming from an HTC Hero. :p

If I am correct the resolution of the sensation is higher thus, but as I said the screen is not my main issue.

The only pity thing is the lower RAM, but I am interesting more in the Evo 3D.. :D
[HTC Sensation] quazis:
I love my HTC Desire, I got a bunch of friends to get it too! But after waiting for this Sensation and seeing how it just bombed-- really makes me sad.

I've always loved Samsung as well, all my monitors in my house used to be Samsung. Quality product for sure! I'm jumping ship because Sensation was the biggest disappointment ever.

There is no excuse to put 768mb RAM in there and only 1gb of space. That is just pathetic.
[HTC Sensation] Spl4tt:
no, the biggest dissapointment is, that they bring this "sensation" now, after they brought the DHD and the Desire Z, and the whole S-Series.

The Sensation would be nice timed if it would have been at the time when they released the S-Series phones, but now its already too late and they should have something better to show off...

the only point why im still with HTC is because the big community.

but if HTC continues like that, this will change soon too.

im freakin dissapointed in HTC, really

i remember when they released the HD2. THAT was a nobrainer. there was no other device wich could beat that. i hoped for another HTC god, but they fail the whole time now :/

i think ill wait a bit longer.. two years with the HD2 should be ok :)

Sent from my HD2.
[HTC Sensation] denis_y_s:
The screen is exactly why I'm going for HTC Sensation! 960x540 HTC is big winner vs. 480x800 GSII ;)
[HTC Sensation] :
Sorry to say Samsungs phone is awesome the original galaxy S. But only if your able to get the out of states version. If you live in the USA expect the sg2 to be bad lots of stuff taken out like flash, ffc, lower resolution camera. When HTC phones come out they aren't any different inferior and superior to each other if it's the same phone. Also HTC bootloaders have always been locked nothing new about that. I'm pretty sure that someone will crack it when more people get the phones in their hands. Also if Samsung has unlock bootloaders they will most likely to the same route as sony ask for your imei number. Meaning they most likely not honor your warranty. If their is a hardware defect in the product you purchased.

MIUI+LvBfskernel+launcher pro=fastest smoothest experience yet on android.
[HTC Sensation] [DT]:
Any word if the HTC is using a Pentile submatrix? That was a real deal breaker for my Atrix (now returned), even with the qHD 960x540.

Another side effect of the higher resolution,was stock Android resources (images, fonts, etc.), being scaled down to the same number of pixels, resulting in them being smaller (so type became less readable, compounded by the Pentile configuration munging up small text details).

My main concern (assuming all other components are functional, i.e., GPS) is battery life. The Atrix I had was pretty stellar, my current Captivate with Twingerbread is very good. Based on some fabrication/tech details on the SGS II CPU/RAM, combined with the [reportedly] lower power consumption of SAMOLED+, I would _think_ it was have excellent battery life (unless TW burns all sorts of CPU cycles, and/or drivers aren't well implemented).

At this point, my vote is favoring the SGS II, but that's pending some thorough testing of the battery, and some other particulars. I'm willing to give Samsung one more try, I hope it's not a case of "fool me once ... fool me twice ..."
[HTC Sensation] PurPLe SKy:
I totally agree with you.
[HTC Sensation] ronijs19:
I can't agree you. Whay disappointment?

1gb is Rom data patrition. in desire data partition is 127mb, if you know.

In desire i used 1gb ext and costum mtd 303mb data patrition. all my stuf und junk teik 400mb ext and 180mb data. that is 580mb. 1gb is more that enougt.

Btw how big is GS2 data patrition? 16gb is integreited mass storage. not ROM data patrition.

Ok, 1gb ram bee mach beter, but 768 nat the worse. you get aluminium unibody, sense ui hig res screen whu is beter aspect reitio 16:9 not 16:10. thiner. beter in hand and in muvies not black spaces, but full screen. and mach more.

Sory for may realy bed english ;)
[HTC Sensation] Trev186:
The S2 will also be available in a 32 Gb internal memory. That combined with my 32GB SD card means I carry all 55 gbs of PS1 games I have on my cell phone with a little bit of room to spare.

Also the extra RAM makes a big difference for anyone who enjoys the Android console emulators. The performance in the console emulators like PSX4droid, FPSE, N64oid and NDS4droid all have more to do with RAM than GPU. The best example is N64oid which can run most games nearly at full speed on 1 GB of RAM but struggles with everything but Mario 64 on 512 MBs.

I could care less about screen resolution to be honest. What is important is the raw power which will make this phone able to run more demanding applications like the unreleased Dreamcast emulator.