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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cbailey:
Seems a typical position. My old one was in exactly the same areas :(
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhoang:
Wow, that is bad. My is even worse than your, and two dead pixels in the middle of the screen. I picked my tf yesterday at Best Buy and returned it today. Im done with asus tf...for now.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystax:
full size photo
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EP2008:
Here'a mine AFTER getting it back from repair.... fortunately, I don't notice any bleed with normal use... I just hope this doesn't get worse.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cowballz69:
So u sent it In for repair and u still have bleed? I don't see the fix
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EP2008:
I sent it in for speaker repair, but specifically asked that they look at the light bleed issue I was having because I had MINOR bleeding on all edges of the screen. Now I have moderate bleeding on two sides. BUT my speakers are working :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eb50:
do you think you got the same unit back? seems shady for a company to try to fix a brand new device rather than just swap it out...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ibnarabi:
As a tech, that seems pretty normal to me. Shady? not sure what that could even mean.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrykur:
Looks good. I have more than that on my desktop monitors.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattcoz:
I'm on my second TF. The first one had a little light bleed but had a strip across that wouldn't respond to touch. This one responds to touch perfectly but has a lot more light bleed and just doesn't seem as solidly put together. It really is only noticeable when in the dark and when the screen is black though, so I'm going to try to just live with it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EP2008:
Perhaps it is "good", but it's far worse than it was before I sent it in for repairs and if I hold the unit with both hands, the bleeding get's worse - I had to hold the camera with one hand, so the picture I posted was at its "best"! LOL
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agamawy:
So guys, what would you advice me to do, I am in the middle east & I ordered the transformer from Amazon. shall I cancel the order now or this issue is solved from Asus.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lehoule:
Hmm no, wait and see what you get. It's exciting!

Mine has some bleeding but it's so hard to see that I'm not going to bother returning it. If it gets worse I'll send it for repair.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystax:
was my light bleed really bad?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lehoule:
No but it's kinda hard to see on those pics. Is that at 100%?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystax:
yeah it was taken with the evo which has bad picture quality in the dark. like if it alright ill probably keep it since even if i switch there will be light bleeding.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
That doesn't make it better. That's bad - also on desktop monitors.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrykur:
If your circles are correct you have two small areas on one side and one small area in a corner. Correct? I really does not look that bad to me. Do you notice it when using the unit in normal colored screens or only on a black background with high brightness?

If you need a display that has no issues with a black background at high brightness you can keep sending it in for repair, or switch to a non IPS display. But almost every ISP display panel beyond phone size that I have owned (I have a lot of IPS monitors and 4 tablets) will show some issues under the correct conditions.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EP2008:
Yes, the areas I circled are where the light bleed come from. On the picture, the effect isn't as strong as when I'm using the device, but during normal use at the low brightness I'm use to, the problem isn't a problem.

Unfortunately, sending it back will cost another $20, which would make my out of pocket expense $40 including the last time I had to ship... at what point do I stop? When I've paid so much in shipping that buying a new unit would be a better option? LOL
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drethis:
I just received my second unit after RMAing the first because of back light bleeding issues. This one not only has back light bleeding issues, but a crappy left speaker as well.

I'm just going to get a refund and get a quality tablet, this is definitely not worth my time.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S4F4M:
Really? What large company do you work for?

In 2006, my new Infocus projector was sent into Infocus for vertical banding, and I got a refurb'd unit.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EP2008:
For what it's worth, my brothers $600+ Ipad 2 has really bad light bleed. I think that to avoid the problem, you might have to stay away from IPS panels - but then again, you'll be looking at a crappy screen all the time instead of light bleed some of the time... it's a tradeoff you'll have to consider.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
So are you saying all IPS screens will do that?

Can that be disabled?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EP2008:
It's very common on IPS screens. It's possible that all IPS screens have some bleed, but it would be under very specific circumstances (eg. black screen, dark room, full brightness, etc.) . For most people you will not notice light bleed under normal conditions.

Are you asking if the "Sent from" message can be disabled? LOL. Yes, it can.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swampthing1117:
is there a way to change the color of that bottom black bar on the screen?

I figure if it's a different color i won't notice the bleed as much.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
Its possible most people won't notice shoddy craftsmanship - pity about those who can.

Sent from my computer using my toaster
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EP2008:
I know. I'm usually VERY picky about defects and I've been extremely fortunate to have never had any real issues with electronics in the past decade.

In the case of the screen, knowing that I have to pay each time I send the unit into asus, I'm less likely to be picky - especially knowing that the unit can come back with another different problem, which could be worse than some light bleed. It's a shame that things are like this. I doubt I'll purchase another ASUS product again.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walkamongus:
Just got my third TF that was ordered from New Egg on Wednesday. I'm about to bust out some cartwheels...

I cranked the brightness to the max and...NO LIGHT BLEED! NONE!

I hope it stays that way but for right now, I am one happy TF owner (even if it took three tries!)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
Remember to check in every week or so and tell us if it keeps up :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walkamongus:
Just took it into a dark room with a black screen...there is light bleed across the entire bottom. Its ever-so-slight and evenly distributed so its hard to see in anything but zero light.

I'm still a happy camper with it though since its entirely unnoticeable except at max brightness on a black screen in a dark room. Since I don't tend to sit in a dark room and stare at a black screen it doesn't bother me. Although if I was goth it might.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CasseTrop:
Got the TF today.

I hope staples is going to trade it right off for me.

I also have 3 dead pixels, 1 of which you can see on the left of the middle tumbnail.

:(
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystax:
after going through the thread looks like my light bleed is super bad with the left and right having 2 big spoch and the bottom having 4-5. Amazong luckly had some in stock and i am doing a return for a replacement hopefully getting one that is not as bad as this.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystax:
updated image with problem area. So far i like the tablet, not really digging the build quality. Hopefully i get one that is not as bad/or lucky to get one that doesnt have any. Will probably try 1 more time if not and than probably just ask for a refund. Btw how do i wipe this thing clean of my stuff before returning it. Factory reset?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hybridau:
Well today I thought I'd see what could be done about a light bleed spot that was annoying me. There are a couple of light bleed spots (seems pratically evident to some degree on all IPS screen devices). Anyway I did a minor disassemble as a result.

Result: Impossible to get rid of completely, its just an unfortunate trade off. I did manage to make it less intense and under normal light conditions and 60% brightness you can not really notice it now. p.s. there is nothing to "losen" the screen. It is not screwed down by the edges.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericc191:
Yeah this is a big issue on the G2x (Also an IPS). I cannot live with light bleed on my phone, but I think a little bit would be acceptable on a tablet. I noticed it on my Nook Color (IPS as well) and it didn't bug me much.

I'm more concerned with the a500 owners saying how ****** the build quality is on the Transformer. I get mine this Tuesday so only time will tell.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hybridau:
I wouldn't be to worried about the build quality, mind is as solid as a rock even after putting it all back together. No creaks or twists at all (when back cover is back on).

When the cover is off, woah totally different story, lots of twist haha (which results in crazy light bleed).

Can't wait to they start making AMOLED based tablets (so love my Nexus One screen)

Next year hopefully.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericc191:
Yeah, I'd much prefer over saturated colors to light bleed. In my opinion, I don't think these companies should be releasing broken technology such as IPS. All IPS screens suffer from back light bleed including the iPad 2 and a number of high end desktop displays. It's really unacceptable.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzinti1:
Where are you people seeing this? If you look at the NewEgg listing, click on "Details" and then look to th right under "Return Policies" it says, quite plainly, "non-refundable."
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericc191:
I just got mine on Amazon with free shipping and a 30 day return policy.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walkamongus:
I've had 3 transformers sent to me so far and all three have been solid as far as build quality...no creaking, no loose bezels, no flexing. Only problem I ran into was light-bleeding which sounds like its common to IPS displays and the third TF I received has such minimal bleed so as to be virtually irrelevant.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericc191:
This is very reassuring to me. I really hope I get as lucky as you with my first.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
Are you sure? Its been reported that it would be a lot further off, its hugely expensive to do that now. You wouldn't want to pay 8000$ for a 10 inch AMOLED tablet, would you? :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamjt:
Just got my 3rd transformer in. It only has one light bleed spot. It lights up next to it instead if I do flex it a little though. The one spot is on the task bar just to the right of the bottom middle...last 2 had that spot plus others. Huh, debating to keep it or not since this has the least of the 3 I have had.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystax:
new transformer arrived way less light bleeding only really visiible @ 85-100% brightness. Package felt like it went to hell and back, look like there was heavy pressure on it
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericc191:
yeah mine is is visible after 50%. I can live with it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gottahavit:
I got sick of the light bleed when reading comics, so I rolled the dice and returned mine today for exchange. hopefully when I get the replacement it will have less than the one I returned which had 4 spots, one big one on the left end in landscape and 3 small one the bottom. I also had a dead pixel in the center of the screen which was annoying for browsing with white backgrounds.

worked out though because the guy at best buy couldn't figure out how to do the exchange with the 30 dollar RZ cert I had purchansed it with so he just pricematched the original price and refunded the RZ cert. :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericc191:
Yeah, see I have what looks like a small eyelash under the screen top right. It is annoying, but I would be more pissed off having a dead pixel.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xufuchang:
also have lb at bottom right corner. only visible when brightness is above 40% which I usually only put up to 25%.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
I'm still loving mine (my 4th - the one with the least bleed). I'm kind of torn regarding folks returning theirs - yup, I too returned mine a number of times (but not just for light bleed) - I'm hoping people get one they are satisifed with, and yet that the amount of returns aren't so significant that Asus decides to ditch the screen for a inferior one with less bleed (Acer, for example). My current one has a gap in the glass on the left and top sides, but with no dead pixels and minimal light bleed this is the one I'm keeping! :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] idlefrog:
Most of the time there is no light bleed from my screen at all. Once in a while I will be viewing photos in the gallery and a light suddenly starts to bleed from the bottom left hand edge of the screen. If is touch the screen there or turn it off and on again it stops - weird.

It is quite infrequent - only happened twice so far in two weeks ownership.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamjt:
I just got my 4th transformer in. This one is from the B50 lot, like the last two. This one easily has the worst light bleed out of all of them. Three sides of the screen have very bright light bleed visible in all light on almost the entire sides.

Unfortunately, I think I'm calling it quits until they fix the issues. I have never had to return a product more than once. I would have kept the 3rd one if the one bright spot didn't get worse and show up all the time in all light conditions. 3 of the 4 were worse then most of the pics I have seen on here.

I have a Nook Color and I can see light bleed on that, but its very dim and even on black screens it doesn't bother me. The nook will have to hold me over for a couple months...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chatch15117:
i have no light bleed... maybe it's a defect in your device?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigphilwastaken:
on my 3rd transformer....its going back as well. at this point it feels like i just need to wait until something with similar features and better quality comes out.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tackyjan:
perhaps the heat from the lamp would melt or at least deform a rubber gasket/flap. they are therefore forced to use hard plastic which is less forgiving when it comes to manufacturing defects. ?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ASeawright:
Soft silicone would handle the amount of heat easily.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tq745:
I'm on my second TF, first one there was a problem with my volume button but that one had very little light bleed. my second one has a huge light bleed where it covers about 1/4 of the screen in the corner which is just unacceptable. I'm going to try one more time because i refuse to go to the galaxy tab.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jateelover:
hey so just got mine and took. A pic in the dark...here is my light bleed....it looks far worse than it is but u can see its all in the corners and in multible places on the the sides and top..I expected some light bleed but this is over the top...isn't it? Please give advice...bought from newegg so I will have to pay return shipping and I don't want to if its going to be the same...thanks!

Also ignore the white dot...part of picture...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I can't really say if the picture is (as you say) unreliable.

If you can see the lightbleed in a well-lit room, and it bothers you, return it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
If this is your first time experiencing the pains of LG-manufactured screens and backlights, well, it's nothing out of the ordinary (and not Asus's fault, the iPad is just as worse as far as screen and backlight is concerned)...

That being said, hopefully PLS being on the market now will make LG look at the quality control within their LCD manufacturing process and realize "huh, we should probably work on that since we've got competition now."

Really, prior to Samsung's PLS, LG had a monopoly on high-end displays. *VA were just too inaccurate, color-wise.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Atomiser09:
I have the same issue

I received my Transformer today and have found the amount of light bleed quite astounding :eek:

hXXp://i.imgur.com/nNOMF.jpg

I'm sending it back to Ebuyer tomorrow for a replacement.

Apologies for the hXXp i still cant post images...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
You are mixing LCD and LED.

LCD screens require backlights in order to be visible, whereas LED screens do not.

The clue is in the name - LED, light emitting diode! LEDs produce their own light so do not require a backlight. They can also reproduce a true black, since in order to do so, they just dont light up.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BongoBong:
Pretty sure this is incorrect. LED tv's still use LCD panels, but use LED lighting to backlight it as opposed to the fluorescent lighting that LCD's normally use
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Turns out we are both correct. There are actual LED displays (no LCD), and LED backlit LCD TVs which some manufacturers still call "LED TVs", though they are not technically LED displays.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Magnesus:
LED displays are called OLED and are very small and pricy right now (but are quite awesome :D). LCDs with LED backlight are called LED sometimes (so if it's not called OLED or AMOLED it's almost certainly just an LCD with LED backlight).
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] checkbox111:
Yeah: all of them created by you :rolleyes: you're the sought of person who spends hours scrolling through forums for one negative post about an item then keeps re-posting it blowing it out of all proportion :rolleyes:

There's probably been about 2 owners in a 1000 that have had the issue and you're trying to make out that it's 50 in 100 :rolleyes:
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Well, consider me number three as three out of four edges on my device have some sort of light bleed. However I did post this elsewhere so maybe the population sample size is still 2 :-) The biggest area is just above the bottom left corner in landscape and is about the size of a quid coin at high brightness. On lowest it is still there but less noticeable.

I'm reticent to send it back in case the next one is worse!

The display itself in non dark conditions is excellent though.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
So, is the general consensus that light bleed is a rare issue? I only have until tomorrow to exchange my tablet. There seems no point sending it back if the next one will be similar.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
I've put a few pics up here

Be aware that these were taken in pitch black with the brightness at both max and a level I think I usually use in the dark.

When the screen isn't totally black the eye can see far less bleed, but it is normally present on the bottom left in landscape.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psycho2097:
Wow, thats pretty bad...hope I don't get one like that...!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RedMist:
I have a slight bleed issue, about two cm up from the bottom left corner. It's only really noticeable on a black screen (check using the "System update" option)

I'm not sure I'll replace it. I just can't be arsed..
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
Yeah, that is exactly where the most noticeable bleed is for mine. I've arranged an exchange (May 4th) but am wondering now if you are seeing it there too.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rk-one:
3 different transformer tried and each one has dust under the screen and light bleeding. Not only but every one has the LCD panel damaged with some sort of scratch visible with an all black wallpaper (try with LCD test on the market) and many lighten pixel on black screen. One of these three has screen with borders not centered (3mm all on the left side). Not only the first one has already a scratch on the glass and the back of the cover not well glued that make noise of broken plastic everytime you take in hand.

I've not words. A good product but with orrible quality control. I' d like to' pay 50 more euros but having a perfect product.

Similar experiences with both latest iPad 2 and acer iconia....maybe same factor....and same quality check.....

My money cost me fatigue and sweat and when i buy something new i pretend that is perfect. But with transformer for now it was impossibile.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
Oh dear. I wonder if that is what Asus Uk was referring to when they said they were doing additional testing.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermode:
If we see this press release, Asus UK writes

Perhaps that is because they noticed a few units with bleed??

http://asus.co.uk/pr/press-release/stock-availability-update/
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
All I can say is mine suffers from light bleed but no dust, no scratches and no misaligned LCD.

If the quality was really that poor the forums would be full of people complaining which isn't the case. (And this is coming from someone who may exchange his due to light bleed)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rk-one:
I,m happy for you. But in my case i returned 3 of 3. Have you tried with lcd test on the market to watch on the black? Obviously in a dark room.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] checkbox111:
So you had three at your local store?

Where exactly is that? from day one it's been sold out everywhere!

You wouldn't have been able to buy a bad one, take back and exchange it, find that was bad and take that back for another one. http://th831.photobucket.com/albums/zz236/Maldoror_2009/th_bull****.gif
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbob1971:
That was the first thing I did. I hate stuck pixels as they constantly draw my eye so I thoroughly checked out the screen. No debris and no dodgy pixels.

As I say i've booked an exchange but may just keep my current one.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rk-one:
I'm in italy not in usa, the first two was the only two in that shop, the third in an another shop, so please dont be aggressive if you dont know whats appaned and try to appreciate shared experiences from other user that could be usefull to check and control your next gadget ;)