[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
I paid that charge when I got my BBerry 8330 a while after it was new... does nobody remember this? didnt they do this to palm and wimno??? The whole 4g whining thing started because people got androids before they decided to implement (or reimplement?) the charge, and it only applied to the 4g phones the way it was first written, so people whined, and now everyone with anything better than a feature phone gets to pay... job well done guys. Its nothing new, yes, its kind of crappy, BUT, if EVERYTHING data truly meant EVERYTHING data... then I would not care. The problem is that we are trying to *god forbid* hold them to their MARKETING when they really only will cop to their contract...

This is the same bull**** as the cable companies internet... they will sell you ridiculous speeds, but they cannot necessarily deliver, and if you strain that shared connection with up to 300 other homes, well then they throttle ya. What they do, is their stupid jocks in suits of businessmen project how much bandwidth a given area will actually use, then deliver that much, im talking the physical structure, not just throttling. Then, the other morons in marketing SELL you speeds they cannot guarantee... that, is bull****. A certain company that I used to install FTTP (fios) for DID guarantee speeds, and were on average 33% higher speeds than what the customer bought... because theres so much bandwidth they had no need to restrict, and its not exactly cheap... well... same as cable... :) Then I install cable, wanting to shoot myself every day for having to install that **** system... and found out that its actually worse than you think.. Coax is dead.... or should be... same with copper (phone/dsl)... should all be ripped out. we dont need it. Anyways, back to phones... they are doing the same ****, overselling their networks capabilities (notice 'put a strain on network) in there... they dont have the hardware to deliver (take a 4g coverage poll), and even if they do, they dont want you to actually USE its potential... thats just marketing... once youre in that contract (I know some of you arent, but you are the minority), they know they will make their money. I got 7/10 rating on my sprint account (that script in another thread)... so they think im actually that valuable, even though I have not paid my bill on time in 15 mos. on this contract??? Yes, because I always pay, Ive got an Epic, im not givin that up, id be like Chris Rock in New Jack City bawling with my phone in my hand. Also, re: the 'they subsidize your phone' defense, do you really think these things cost that much to make???? the price is set so that the companies involved can make the PROFITS they project to make off the product, not what its actually worth. I dont need a capitalism lesson, I know theres much more economic trickery involved, but it really just boils down to that. You cannot defend companies for 'subsidizing' and inflated cost of a product... the CEO and execs do NOT deserve the money they make... in any corporation... its the kids in China/Korea making these babies that deserve the cred, and the engineers of course...

Ok... SO **** the security ****, and if it gets really stupid, yeah, they better hope tablets save android, because they will kill the phone portion.. the only reason to be on android is the so called 'fragmentation' (piss off Jobs) that makes it a free community... Ill end up with a cheap ass phone on ghetto prepaid and just get a wifi tablet.

oh,and because this was not just about tethering, if a customer looks at xda for 5 mins, soft bricks their phone, takes it in and gets a warranty, or TEP, or whatever... if they swap out the phone, Odin it, and put it back in a box, dont they sell that same phone twice??? None of this really COSTS them a cent, its just a little ding in their projected profits, and they have to wait for the shark tank behind their bar. If anything, its yet another way to profit.. detect rooted phone, note it, take a years worth of TEP, customers phone craps out, 'oh sorry, you rooted your phone... but if you sign up for another 2 years...........'