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[Defy Android Development] Kribou:
mussio : for your first days, I would advise you to try to flash your defy with stable known roms...to learn how to and get familiar with moto roms & tricks.

http://modmymobile.com/forums/580-motorola-defy/

Try for example, roms from jboogy. Pay attention to 3G fix depending on your location.

Cheers,

Kribou
[Defy Android Development] demolition23:
@quarx

Don't you think is better try to port cm6.Maybe you have better chance.

Sent from my MOTO Defy :-)
[Defy Android Development] joergherzinger:
Whats your Github user name? Im really looking forward to this...
[Defy Android Development] ofmb:
Quarx - you're doing a great job!

We must have a github and a new thread.

That would give development a kick forward.
[Defy Android Development] Chillimonster:
This is going to open so many doors for Defy development amd hopefully this fantastic handset will get the recognition it deserves.

WAY TO GO GUYS - WELL DONE! :)
[Defy Android Development] sunoldman:
Maybe everything except that doesn't work, so there is still a long way to go. But it is a good start.
[Defy Android Development] demolition23:
Here is Quarx's Githab profile

https://github.com/Quarx2k

Hope to see CM7 defy soon
[Defy Android Development] add.thebad:
wow! i was expecting this in like a year when i was ready to get rid of my defy!!!

good look with the rest:D:D:D
[Defy Android Development] Bendary:
yes my dream is coming true, you are awesome quarx!!!!
[Defy Android Development] AkkiandDefy:
But the Defy on Quarx Screenshot had only 477MB Memory?!
[Defy Android Development] add.thebad:
well spotted, odd defy has 512

edit

did a quick serch seems like its an error http://androidforums.com/droid-x-all-things-root/199939-highmem-problem-fixed-2-2-ota-kernel.html
[Defy Android Development] AkkiandDefy:
My Defy has 1 GB Internal Memory
[Defy Android Development] Rhyr:
It's not true, the amount of memory it's never the perfect number that you see on specs...

For example, my 16Gb micro sd have 14 Gb pc space :-)
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
2GB internal memory (for applications) and 512 MB RAM memory.

P.S. I'm waiting the GitHub!!!
[Defy Android Development] je198ß:
RAM !? Defy has 512 MB!
[Defy Android Development] javi422:
okay so I went ahead and installed from the market because i could not get it to install the other way, anyways once i installed it everything worked fine ONLY thing is once i flashed a new rom which didnt work out for me i tried to load back into recovery and the blue LED never showed up and would just try and boot normally. Has this happened to anyone else?
[Defy Android Development] Rhyr:
Internal storage space for rom and programs it's different from the ram memory, i think...
[Defy Android Development] add.thebad:
512 is RAM .
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
After install a new rom you need to install the tool again.
[Defy Android Development] AkkiandDefy:
Thanks, for the information :)
[Defy Android Development] AkkiandDefy:
What do you think, what will not work on CM7 for Defy
[Defy Android Development] javi422:
thanks for that info. i thought it was going to stay there haha, and dang that would have worked if the rom i tried to use actually let me do something on my defy without giving me a FC every half a second
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
NO..

DEFY HAS 477 MB MEMORY!!

check with your favorite task manager.

it is 477.

it's odd i know,

but many devices not shows exact value like 128, 256, 384, 512, etc..

defy too.. defy 512 but shows 477.
[Defy Android Development] Antszej:
It does not show all 512mb because some of this ram is needed by gpu and cpu and other hardware. Mt3g had 198mb of ram, but shows only 100mbs...

Sent from Barebones-Defy using tapatalk.
[Defy Android Development] add.thebad:
everything eventually... hopefully
[Defy Android Development] Quarx:
Wifi now works:)

I have problem with RIL. - no errors, and does not work...

When RIL will be ready I'll post the first test version.

The sources will be uploaded on the GIT as some free time ..... too many university studies.

My GIT - https://github.com/Quarx2k
[Defy Android Development] Rhyr:
WE love you! :D
[Defy Android Development] drsouly:
could you create a new thread, related to your work please?
[Defy Android Development] JackSparrow17:
If Possible more Screenshots will nice......:)
[Defy Android Development] Quarx:
What screenshots do you need? I'll do.

Ok, no problem:)
[Defy Android Development] Jokerchris2000:
Amazing work Quarx!!!

Hope you'll get the rest sorted aswell. I think finally it looks like we can have Gingerbread on our Defys even before Motorola will release the official 2.2 in Europe

:)
[Defy Android Development] add.thebad:
This would be helpful

eagerly awaiting this! every defy owner will love you
[Defy Android Development] AkkiandDefy:
Could make a overview about what works yet and what not? (Just if you have time for it)

I think the main things for the first Release are: Wifi,3G,Camera,SD-Card,Bluetooth,maybe Radio,3D

and finally Gingerbread :D

Thank you very much :)

PS.: Why arent you a developer here? And I think if you make a PayPal Account you would earn (lots of) money :D
[Defy Android Development] pedrodh:
@Quarx

Nice. I might be able to help with bringing CM7 to Defy, but I probably need to see how you got it to run in the first place, so I'll wait for the post to github. By the way, will you post the entire source, or just the parts specific to the Defy, and we will have to fetch the whole cyanogen source from their repo?
[Defy Android Development] Antszej:
Sorry Quarx but when i enter you github link it says that this site does not exist 404...

You shoul REALLY make a new thread with your port/s...

Sent from Barebones-Defy using tapatalk.
[Defy Android Development] insestito:
Any link to try CM7 ????

:D
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
Not to oppose you or anything Quarx, but something looks sketchy about that screenshot. The screenshot is 360x640 in size and defy has a resolution of 480x854, which do not match at all. It might be another gingerbread device with some stuff changed in the build.prop to make it look like defy. And even if the screnshot was shrunk, it is not in the ratio with the resolution of defy. Well, if its real, good luck :) Cant wait to see CyanogenMod on defy if its real.

Edit: Few more screenshots would be great in this case. :)

Edit: Model Number is supposed to be MB525 instead of Defy. (Photoshop Fail? :p ) And i wonder how cyanogenmod is running on the default defy kernel. Sorry if i sounded mean, but my mind just can't believe this is real. :)
[Defy Android Development] Citynomad:
360x640 is exactly the same aspect ratio as 480x854. Ever heard of scaling pictures for the internet? You might want to check your math skills ;)

As you already mentioned the build.prop... think about it... doesn't it make a sense to rename the Model, if you're modding the software anyway? Who calls his Defy MB525? And who wants his software (like tapatalk or googlemail) to report it as MB525 in the signature? I don't. Once changed, you don't have to edit all the signatures!
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
Ok lets see,

480/360 = 1.333333333333333

854/640 = 1.334375

1.333333333333333 ≠ 1.334375

ah oh! looks like someone else needs to take math lessons. and if you need to take lessons on scaling pics, i can help you on that as well :)

and its acceptable to say that he changed the build.prop for the device model, but what about cyanogenmod running on default kernel? :)

Does that make it clear?
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
You can see near the data that is changed, like android version, and kernel, definitely photoshop...

You don't even have to talk about resolution, bad photoshop skills lool
[Defy Android Development] racca:
1. have you been living in the cave for the last year or so? ever heard of milestone and nadlabak?

we already have CM6 on A853/XT702 for a year now, and CM7 for a coupla months.

2. haven't you heard of rounding errors? i fix the scaling @ 9:16 with ~1% torlerance, ie both 480*854 360*640 fit exactly that.

3. would you mind finding me an android device actually running on 360*640 with 2.6.32.9 kernel?

it's reasonable, even necessary, to cast doubt on anything that's not verifiable.

however, it's ridiculous to base you doubt on wild imaginations and make accusations with it.

or maybe this is "sketchy" too. b/c it's 360*640, runs on stock kernel,

and guess what, it's called milestone not A853.

FYI, i too remain skeptical until i can see it, but not for the WRONG reasons you have.
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
Nope i have been living in my own house since i was born. :)

And i know what Milestone is, even though i don't own one. I know that the milestone had an exploit for the recovery which made it possible to do everything.

And i dont think that the image posted by Quarx is a result of rounding errors, as simply scaling the image doesnt cause rounding errors.

I dont know or care what device he is using that produces that resolution, but the image feels sketchy to me.

Talking about your screenshot, you resized that youself just to show that it could be done, but i dont think he had to show that resolution to anyone.

I didnt mean to fight or argue over this topic, i just said what i felt, and if it is real and Quarx has really ported it, it is a good thing to everyone, and i will be happy with that as well. Say whatever you want, but i wont believe it unless i see some more screenshots of the rom.

And i dont care if the reasons were wrong or right, but i will say what i feel about anything.

P.S. I can write double space too ;)
[Defy Android Development] Citynomad:
ooohhh now you got me :rolleyes:

Scale 854x480 to 640xYYY keeping the aspect ratio and see what your graphics software will give you. 360? :cool:

PS: every calculation done by a computer is affected by rounding! Especially when dealing with natural numbers and aspect ratios! Or did you ever see a picture with sthg. like 640.23x479.87 pixels? What do you think why there's aliasing on screens? Because you can't split pixels!

Furthermore... read the topic again, to see why there can be a gingerbread kernel running on a Defy. Or let me help you out. 2nd init!
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
i get 359.. i think we should wait for quarx to post more screenshots or the ROM itself instead of discussing over the resolution now. :)

And about the gingerbread kernel, i know that, i have been working just for 2nd init since weeks.
[Defy Android Development] Citynomad:
You should check your cpu ;) I tried Photoshop, MS Paint and Paint.net on 2 systems with different cpu manufacturers (I tend to check my data, before I post them) and I got 360 from each software on both, AMD and Intel CPU.

Anyways, we don't need screenshots, as you guys tend to doubt them ;) We will need results (the ROM) to clarify the situation.
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
When he release the repository we will know if it's true. :)

P.S. I think that's true. See his history here on XDA.
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
Oh well, i guess its time for me to get another cpu. And i agree with you on the last line, we need the ROM to clarify this.

And i wrote that just to express what i thought about the screenshot, not to argue about it with everyone. I apologize to everyone if i was mean :D I hope quarx will respond pretty soon. :)

P.S. i checked it on a online tool, so its probably not my cpu :)
[Defy Android Development] ketonkss4:
Its good to be skeptic, so you won't be heartbroken if and when this turns out to be a hoax... Nightmares of the nenoled exploit >.<"

Ugghh Quarx's screenshot looks so sketchy and he isn't really doing much to alleviate our concerns lol. Makes for a good dramatic ending.
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
Thats exactly the point. :D
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
if we apply the update.zip from milestone CM7, what the hell will happen? :D
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
you mean the openrecovery one? it will probably say key error or something like that :)
[Defy Android Development] ketonkss4:
That would tell you if this 2nd init deal is truly what we need for CM7 huh? But after reading that motorola packages the eFuse command to brick the phone in the event of loading a custom kernel im too scared to be the one to try it lol.
[Defy Android Development] -juanito-:
please make video how to installing this
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
oh yeah, that's it. I guess :D
[Defy Android Development] ketonkss4:
Use this apk file.. download and run on your defy. Much easier.

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=566696&d=1302612323
[Defy Android Development] racca:
now you are just talking rubbish.

that exploit only made flashing update.zip even with /system formatted possible.

you can't use custom kernels, you can't replace stock recovery (downgrade possible, but still stock).

CM for milestone uses 2nd-init, in fact exactly the same binary, except they use sh hijackinstead of logwapper hijack.

all in all, the only advantage ms has is, they don't need the rom to support CWM/OR without booting, and that's it. i'm sure if you paid any attention to the locked bootloader thing (droid vs ms) you should have known that.

and as for 360*640, i actually didn't make it on purpose, as i narmally resize it to that resolution, because i consider 359*640 a really odd number.
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
I dont know much about milestone, but according to few searches related to 2nd init, i found that there was an exploit on old sbf's that allowed them to flash or run openrecovery, but im not quite sure about that. And this topic is over for now, lets just wait for the developer to release the ROM instead of arguing about it. And i need your help on something, please reply my PM. :)

P.S Do u know how MiUi works on milestone without flashing the kernel?
[Defy Android Development] insestito:
Any news of CM7 on defy ??????
[Defy Android Development] pedrodh:
As far as I know, eFuse is a CPU instruction (just like any other), it only activates if you used the stock recovery and/or stock bootloader, so I guess there's no risk to flash stuff trough the custom Recovery.

I get you're anxious, but dude calm down :). When it's released there will be lot a fuss on the forum, and a thread just for that, so you WILL notice it when it happens. Don't keep asking about it here, there's no point :P. The 2ndInit was an important step, but I'm guessing it will take a while until we got CM7 for the mainstream on the Defy.
[Defy Android Development] martin.flory:
Quarkx has just released a alpha version. Very early but, looks real.
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
it is real, i am stupid to think the screenshot was fake :p he has not only brought cyanogenmod to defy, but its the first gingerbread rom ever for defy. and glad to see more devs starting to work for defy :)
[Defy Android Development] anti-virus:
Yea, such a great day for us, defy owners.

Thanks for bringing here this custom recovery menu.
[Defy Android Development] Rhyr:
I've not understand a thing:

If 2ndinit it's installed and then you install CM7, is that possible to have two roms onboard at the same time?
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
Yes it is, with some modifications and changes on the 2nd init.rc and dependant files. There is going to be an inbuild functionality called 2nd Boot that will allow you to do that easily on the future versions of this MOD. You can create an extra partition on your sd card, format it to an ext3 partition and change the init files so that the sd partition will mounted for /system instead of the internal system partition, extract the system files there and boot using 2nd init. Might sound like a tough thing to do, but it will get easier when the 2nd boot function of the boot menu will be ready. :)
[Defy Android Development] Rhyr:
Fantastic!!!

Thanks for the explanation :-)
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
You'r welcome :) I think we will be getting multiboot soon :)
[Defy Android Development] ketonkss4:
w/e skepticism for the win! My heart couldnt take another nenoled a**hole getting everyones hopes up.

Now on to a new era in Defy android Development thank you for your contribution ksubedi you definitely set the ball rolling around here. I cant wait to try Quarx's CM7.
[Defy Android Development] pedrodh:
I've updated the app with version 0.4.5 of the MOD ;). Thanks ksubedi again. Now let's see how CM7 progresses :)
[Defy Android Development] sunoldman:
Korean Developers have released Android BootMenu v0.5.0 (20110415), hope someone can upload the file.
[Defy Android Development] adlx.xda:
I have messed several times with the boot partition (which would be equivalent to flashing a custom kernel) and the phone would go directly to USB bootloader init mode upon power on.

So it's a soft brick. You can recover by flashing the kernel CG with RSD Lite.
[Defy Android Development] ga1axy:
bootmenu release v0.5.1

sorry. my english..

bootmenu bug fix release v0.5.1

I tested CM7 alpha2..

download & feedback :

h**p://wiki.rvr.kr/android/bootmenu

;)
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
Sorry about the update guys, i had the update file with me, but as my sd card was bricked, i had totally stopped the developement till today. I got a new one today, so im back on track. I have updated the post. And thanks to everyone who posted it before me :)
[Defy Android Development] ofmb:
another update :)

http://wiki.rvr.kr/android/bootmenu
[Defy Android Development] rrhg:
Hi all,

I'm new user and need help with installation. When you wrote in adb, that mean in windows ? And how to install adb in win7 ? In adb mode what's the configuration of the phone ( portal or other ) ?

i've installed 1.2 version.apk and need to upgrade 4.5.

Thanks for your help
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
Updated Again! :)
[Defy Android Development] ksubedi:
Yeap ADB is for windows/linux/mac or in general, for computer. Here is an guide to installing adb on computer from the unlocker -> http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/06/how-to-set-up-adb-usb-drivers-for-android-devices/

Follow the steps there and you will be ready to go :) Hope that helped.
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
thank's a lot!! great man!:D
[Defy Android Development] rrhg:
Thks, go to try it
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
aw... crap..

i bricked my phone.. bootloop.

i forgot to check usb debugging before install it :(

have to reflash SBF..
[Defy Android Development] pedrodh:
Nice. You people are rocking.. this is update after update :). I'll update the app soon with this new version of the MOD.

I'll check if ADB is enabled before install on my app, so that way it won't install until the user enables it.
[Defy Android Development] mainbord:
usb debugging must be on or off от 0.5.1?

I installed it and then my defy do not boot. Installed this with root explorer.
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Thanks for this just installed on my brand new Defy. Tried starting adb daemon but the pc does not recognise it...is that not the use of this function?
[Defy Android Development] starrybright:
thanks a lot.

But know i use v0.5.1 enter bootmenu and in Custom Recovery

I can't mount sdcard? how can I fix it?

I only use clockwork mod recovery and enter recovery mode can mount sdcard!
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Does USB Debugging always have to be off? If i enable it and restart will i be stuck in a boot loop with no way other than flash a new sbf?

Or does it only need to be disabled for first install and boot? I need USB Debugging on for lots of things really.
[Defy Android Development] antonych:
1. Install bootmenu

2. Turn usb debugging off

3. Reboot your device

4. Turn usb debugging on
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Thanks adb working now as well...duh me!
[Defy Android Development] lackyking:
How to uninstall it?:confused:
[Defy Android Development] Zinshin:
It worked once.

I followed the instructions, and I got it to work. It's a fantastic mod, but as I wanted to install CM7, I backed-up my phone using Pays-Rom's SD Recovery. Now it seems that it screwed up this mod, as I don't see a blue light at all anymore. Pressing down does nothing.

Do I have to reinstall? Or is there something else I can do?
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Yes reinstall. It got wiped with the new install.
[Defy Android Development] Zinshin:
Ah I see, so this entirely replaces the need for a recovery app right? Sweet! Haha! :D
[Defy Android Development] Jygar:
Mine is coming up with an error on backup.

Its having issues backing up, keeps saying:

Can't mount /sdcard
[Defy Android Development] pedrodh:
I've updated my app, now with version 0.5.1 of the MOD ;).

You are not the first to complain, so far it seems that only the people that had installed the SD Recovery app before have this problem. Can you confirm that this was the case with you too?
[Defy Android Development] Jygar:
As in previously using the Clockwork Mod app, yeh I used to use that.

Since then I have not used it and actually flashed back to my 2.51 firmware using the SBF as I had it set to downgradable.
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
I also got can't mount sd. I uninstalled old version but i guess not properly.
[Defy Android Development] Jygar:
Hmmm is it possible its a problem with 0.51, did it previously work with 0.45?

0.51 was my first install.
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Nah cos 0.51 worked fine for me manual install. Then later clean install ran the old auto installer, no usb. Then used auto app to uninstall then updated to new auto app. Still didn't work.

Think 0.51 on a clean install is best.
[Defy Android Development] Jygar:
Tried it clean, just tried 0.45 clean and neither have worked for me.

What SBF you running?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rich739:
Hey, sorry for creating a new topic, but I'm unable to post in the dev forums.

I've google searched, searched the forums etc for topics, but as title, what is the exact font used in:

Cheers,

Rich
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I3lank:
Hi,

Just wondering if anyone as a proven with fc's using this rom. Also, it does not want to save my login information. Thanks.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Codiusprime:
Alright, I didn't really want to make a thread for this but I can't post in the appropriate developers thread because of the minimum post limit.

I am attempting to get CWM on my new Fascinate, I have gotten past the rooting stage. I am able to boot into manual download mode but Odin refuses to see my phone. If I boot the phone normally Odin will see it, when I plug the phone into the computer in manual download mode the computer will see it. But no matter what I do Odin will not recognize my phone. I am getting slightly frustrated. I have also tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Sammy drivers, no luck. I gots to get this Touchwiz crap off this phone.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DaleV:
Try This post in the general forum, it includes links. The version of odin you have may not like your PC or Phone, odin 1.3 didn't like me at all. odin 1.7 available in my thread has given me zero problems ever.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12736531#post12736531
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Codiusprime:
Thanks! That did it!
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DaleV:
Cool, glad I was able to help.
[Xoom General] Oasisplayer311:
every time I put my Xoom in portrait mode, the homescreens lag, likely around 15 - 20 fps. landscape mode is perfect, probably like 60fps. I'm just wondering if anyone knew a fix for this, or just an explanation lol
[Xoom General] p2flol:
I also was getting that while using stock launcher, I stopped using it last week and switched to ADW so everything is super smooth.
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
same here. Not terrible but noticeably slower. Wondering if its because it has to render the widgets in portrait and theyre optimized for landscape? I really don't know.
[Xoom General] Oasisplayer311:
I gave Launcher Pro a try since I use it's on my Droid X, but the small App Icons just bugged me. Is ADW any better?