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[HTC EVO 3D] wmblalock:
Sorry guys, just got back to trying this again and read your posts. I was trying with the left pin, closest to the edge of the phone. StevetotheH's pic shows using the other hole? I will give it a try using the other hole now and see if I have any luck.

I ran ControlBear over 20 times last night, a few of those times, I completely uninstalled ControlBear and restarted. Same result.

Yes, USB debugging mode has been enabled the entire time.

I don't get any error messages, just the strange device "QHSUSB_DLOAD" that shows up in the device manager after the wire trick. After "QHSUSB_DLOAD" shows up, the phone doesn't respond anylonger no matter how long i let it sit. I have to pull the battery and usb cable to get the phone to power back up, then ControlBear detects it, checks for S-OFF and says I am still Sober, try again.

To answer Ramjet73's questions:

1. Which version are you using: Latest 2.17 GB

2. Which ROM do you have installed? Is it rooted?: Stock 2.17 GB Rooted Rom

3. Have you uninstalled any PC software that might interfere (HTC Sync, USB tether, iTunes): Yes, and I tried it on two different computers with the same result. The second computer has been freshly formatted/reloaded with windows 7 to be sure.

4. Is your battery full charged: Yes

5. Are you connected to the PC via USB cable with USB debugging enabled: Yes

6. Is the ControlBear utility running with Administrator privileges on Windows: Yes

Also, if you could copy and paste the last 10 lines of the ControlBear output that would help us figure out what might be happening: I will do this on my next few runs in a few minutes if it fails.

**** EDIT: Something just came up, I will try this again tomorrow when I have more time. I will post back with my results and see if we can get this figured out. Thanks for the help guys!! *****
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
You might want to reset your phone with one of these options before you try it again. The first one is for fastboot usb mode in the bootloader and the second one is if the jbear icon is on your screen.

Good luck!

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] G.Newton:
Might be helpful, might not..

In the other downgrade thread, after I bricked and waited a few, I plugged my phone into the comp and "QHSUSB_DLOAD" came up. I referred to this as "semi-recognized" in the other thread. I was only able to achieve this after my phone was bricked.

In other words, you might have bricked your phone as this was the ONLY time I ever saw this.

EDIT: A quick Google search reveals that the only time others saw this was when they also bricked their device (even Samsungs, etc).
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
That is definitely not true. This post from the HTC Amaze forum indicates that state is definitely recoverable. I don't think anyone has asked the OP about recovering from this state, and I wouldn't draw any conclusions until he weighs in.

If you are going to continue to post in this thread, could you at least try to be positive and helpful?

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] G.Newton:
Excuse me. I was trying to be helpful. I was giving my personal experience. Obviously it's recoverable, (hence the Unbrickable thread). What I was saying is, people have only gotten to that point by some form of a brick. I did not say it was not reversible. It's a trial and error essentially. My hypothesis was incorrect, and you cleared it up. Now the guy benefits from our discussion. Win. :)

Actually, we have a misunderstanding. This will probably clear things up:

My definition of "brick" (FOR THE EVO 3D): Unresponsive touchscreen and all buttons, but recoverable.

The beauty about our phone is that it's damn near impossible to "permabrick."

Other phones might not be so faulty-proof, so when they mention the word "brick", they might actually be referring to "permabrick" instead.

EDIT: with the unbrickable thread, and the other thread, the term "brick" has lost some of it's "OMG, you're ****ed" feeling lol. As we can see, our phone can easily be recovered. When you're s-off and try stuff, then that's when you might run in to real problems.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Tips from the developers.

I just got off a chat with the developers on the #JuopunutBear IRC channel and they agreed that a phone in the QHSUSB_DLOAD state is probably not bricked and recommended this procedure:

[14:19] <@hyuh> remove the battery and the usb cable

[14:19] <@hyuh> then put the battery back in.

[14:19] <@hyuh> power on

[14:20] <@hyuh> if than fails then leave it on the wall charger overnight

They also recommended switching SD cards if you are having problems getting the wire trick to work. There is a new troubleshooting page on the unlimited.io website that might be helpful for anyone that has questions or problems about JuopunutBear.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] wmblalock:
The phone is definitively not bricked. After "QHSUSB_DLOAD" shows up, if I pull the battery and USB, then put them back in, Juopunutbear comes right back up on the screen of the phone and at that point I can either run it again, or uninstall it and the phone still works fine, just with S-on still :-(

I will try to work on this more tonight. Work has been very busy for me, so I haven't hide time to further play with my phone. Thanks for all the help guys.

Ramjet73, I will try the things you suggest. Thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Which pin to use?

There was some confusion about which pin to use for the wire trick so I went back to the IRC channel to ask the developers. They said it was definitely the pin on the left as you look at the back of the phone, as indicated on their photo in the E3D instructions. That's the pin I used successfully for the wire trick on two phones but I was thinking that both might work. They said no, use the one on the left.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] wmblalock:
Sounds good. That is the one I have been trying with, and will continue to try with. I am going to try again later. I rest my phone with an RUU to factory 2.17, I will re-unlock / root the phone, ensure my battery is at 100%, and try using my normal 16gb SD card (I was using my backup 1gb SD card.. maybe it didn't like that one?). I will see how this goes.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Make sure to back up your 16GB card before you use it for the wire trick because it may get corrupted in the process and have to be reformatted and restored.

Good luck!

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
JuopunutBear S-OFF now stickied!

Thanks to the mod that just stickied this thread.

Having the same status as the HBoot 1.4 downgrade threads will give this method more credility and visibility. :)

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] SketchyStunts:
Stil so very very very thankful for this. Has made life much easier on the go flashing things.
[HTC EVO 3D] wmblalock:
Woo hoo, I got it on the first try this time! Thanks for all the help guys. I am not sure exactly what fixed it.. but here are the things I did different this time..

- I ran the latest 2.17 RUU to restore the phone

- I then did a factory rest from the bootloader

- I made sure the battery was actually fully charged this time

- I re-unlocked / rooted the phone

- I soldered the ends of my stranded wire that I used to do the wire trick.. maybe my stranded wire was some how double tapping with the different strands, who knows.

- Used my 16GB sd card instead of my 1GB backup sd card

Thanks for the help guys!
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Just curious, which SD card did you use? The developers think that the SD card can make the difference when it comes to the wire trick.

Glad it worked for you!

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] wmblalock:
Actually, I just modified my post and added it, I used my 16GB SD card instead of my 1GB backup SD card.. maybe that was what fixed it? Who knows!
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Additional Support via #juopunutbear IRC channel

Now that this thread is stickied and may get more visibility and interest, it might be helpful to review the basics of getting support from the developers via the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channel provided in the OP of this thread and on the unlimited.io website. Unknownforce and closeone provide great support for the HBoot 1.4 downgrade S-OFF method on this forum, but the JuopunutBear (wire trick) method for gaining S-OFF applies to multiple HTC devices and the developers have opted to provide support via a single IRC channel instead of multiple forum threads and/or PM's.

There are many IRC clients available for just about any platform including Windows, Mac, Linux, and Android, but there's no need to install one to get support via the #juopunutbear IRC channel. Just bring up the webchat.freenode.net page in your browser, enter the nickname you want to use, the #juopunutbear channel, and the captcha information in the login screen (see attached screenshot), then click "Connect". You will get two tabs open within the client, the first one is the freenode status page and the second one is the #juopunutbear chat session. The input area is at the bottom of the screen, and you can just type your question or problem, then press enter and wait for a response.

If no one is monitoring the channel, you may need to check back later for a response. Although most issues with the Evo 3D have been addressed in this thread, it's nice to know that you can reach the developers if you have a question or problem that you think they need to address.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] globatron:
The developers KNOW this. The symptoms described are always casued by an unsuitable SD card.
[HTC EVO 3D] intheb0x:
well i thought my usb port on my phone was toast, and was stuck with 1.50 s-on, well i popped in a usb cable out of boredom and it worked!

so the first thing i did was download this and after my 10th try i am now s-off with the modified bootloader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im SO SO excited lol

thanks you guys for all your hard work!
[HTC EVO 3D] Cynovae:
But don't we void the warranty when using the HTC method in order to use juopunutbear?
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
Yes but with this method, the bootloader shows locked when it's done, so you can get back to stock with no evidence of it ever being unlocked
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
This method actually returns your phone to a ** LOCKED ** status in the bootloader even though it requires that it be HTC unlocked to use it. Once the bootloader is locked again, you can flash an RUU, then use the fastboot writesecureflag command from a PC to set S-ON, and the phone will look completely stock.

It's not clear that warranty service would be refused for an HTC unlocked phone anyway, but once this method or the HBoot 1.4 downgrade is completed, that becomes moot.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Cynovae:
Ah ok! So they can't see whether you had/are rooted unless you return it with unlocked, relocked, or s-off? I thought giving your identifier token during the htcdev method "may void all or parts of your warranty."

I think I'll finally be giving this a go later tonight or tomorrow, I've been itching for ICS roms!
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
They will know you got an unlock token...but that doesn't mean you used it, and I don't see how they could prove it with no evidence...
[HTC EVO 3D] sdwyz74:
Emergency please help now!!!!!!!!!!!

K first off let say this thing works like it says!!!!!!!!!!! NOW let me say it ran fine for a week or so and now i flashed a new rom today and it wont boot up ??? it hit the htc screen and shut off and back on to the htc screen ???? im running HBOOT 1.5 and EXT4 recovery PLEASE ADVISE
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Which ROM did you flash and did you try flashing a different ROM that worked for you before? Some ROM's have problems like that, especially when they are new. It's not likely that being S-OFF could cause those problems.

Also, did you disable the S-ON feature in 4EXT? That only works if you have a kernel installed that is bootable, and with S-OFF you don't need that feature anymore.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] sdwyz74:
what RJ you helped me last time but this one is wierd as now all the sudden it says something about disabling the something everytime i boot to recovery ??? hold ill grab the error k but it never said that before and i been flashing away its just lastnight i wanted a rom that would let my 4g settings stick so i flash back to a GB rom inbreded 4. something and then it worked i went to flash back to an ics and this start happening
[HTC EVO 3D] fatboyarg:
Quick question... I have 1.40 revolutionary S-OFF and i was wondering if i could flash the jb_hboot.zip that they have.... updating it but keeping my s-off.... just switching to 1.50 instead of revolutionary, JuopunutBear s-off.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Yes, that works fine, just download the bootloader and flash it via fastboot. The downloads and flashing instructions are available on the unlimited.io website linked in the OP of this thread. The developers recommend that if you have GB firmware you use the GB version of the bootloader (1.50.5050) and once we have the Sprint version of the ICS firmware (or if the VM ICS firmware was flashed) to use the ICS version of the bootloader (1.57.5757).

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] fatboyarg:
What is GB Firmware? and how do i know if i have it?? (new to hboot 1.50 really:confused:)
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
GB firmware is the versions that come with the GingerBread builds. The current firmware has a baseband version of 1.06.00.1216 and came with the GB 2.17.651.5 build for the Evo 3D. Unless you flash the leaked Virgin Mobile firmware (not recommended!) you are most likely on a GB version of firmware.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] fatboyarg:
Ok, so basically i can flash it right now and have absolutely no problem with my current rom right? Flash it and keep on going as if nothing happened?( wanna make sure i won't f*** my phone up)
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Yes. Just wanted you to know that the developers recommend you install the GB version unless you have installed firmware from an ICS build, which the Evo 3D doesn't have yet.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] fatboyarg:
ok man, thanks for the heads up, really appreciate it =D:D
[HTC EVO 3D] Panface:
So, I'm guessing if you're on the HTC Unlock, you'll have to relock and what not before running this? Because it says nothing about that if you are on the HTC Unlock or not. Either way, I think I'll wait a little bit longer to see if the 'beta' is taken off the release to make sure it's fully stable and it won't break my phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
Instead of guessing, you could read a little...lol jk....this is from the site

Prerequisites

In order to use JuopunutBear you must meet the following pre-requisites:

Be unlocked using the HTCdev bootloader unlock Be on the stock ROM and be rooted (have superuser and/or an unsecured boot image installed) Some custom ROMs may work, however we cannot verify them all. If you are not using a stock ROM and have problems then this is most likely the reason.

Have a spare microSD card or to have backed up all contents of your SDcard, the card may be wiped, while we try to restore the card to it’s original state is is possible that this will not succeed Have fastboot and adb drivers installed and working (windows) Have usb debugging enabled Remove and potentially interfering phone software which such as HTC sync, Andro sync, PDAnet etc, iTunes has also been noted to cause issues. Have a legth of insulated wire of sufficient length to join the contact points for your device. See images and videos for device specific information.
[HTC EVO 3D] Panface:
Derp, I must have somehow flowers over that first part. Then again, I read it early in the morning. I guess I will give it a try when I get home. Just hope I will still be able to update to the latest android version when it comes out.
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
It worked well for me with stock rooted Rom, make sure you back up your SD card just in case, mine was not corrupted, but others have. With the right prep it took me 5 min to do.
[HTC EVO 3D] Panface:
I'm on ViperROM with the HTC Unlock method.
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
Up to you but if it was me I would try from stock rooted Rom then restore viper Rom after the process.
[HTC EVO 3D] Panface:
Yeah, if I can get this to work, I'd just update to the new ViperROM anyways. I just need to figure out how to get it back to stock rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
Just flash one, there are several on the development forum...if you don't have a nandroid of stock.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tutungzone:
Worked...

I am running the last release of Mean ROM, with is from the stock GB release. This worked like a charm. Nothing lost on SD..

Good job Devs!! Stay around and do some more for us, be glad to donate to ya
[HTC EVO 3D] Panface:
The only problem with finding a stock rom is; there are so many. Some say it only works on 1.4, or some say it's stock, but it's all sorts of modified and such. I don't even know which one to get.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tutungzone:
Hummm...

S-OFF definitely achieved, however I said no to the custom hboot.

Is there a way to go back and update the hboot as well? Seems I can get back into recovery... but flashing a ROM is a no go. Pushing via fastboot seems to be blocked as well.

Anyone?

UPDATE... wait a minute, looks like it may have worked to flash new ROM... had to pull battery and start up again. Will update with finding.

2nd Update... Looks like it worked without a hitch!! MeanRom GB v4.3 to this fix... no update hboot, restart to recovery, flash MeanICS, everything is working beautifully.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
I just searched this thread for "stock rooted" and found this post with a link to some ROM's that should work fine. My recommendation would be to use the odex version of the 2.17.651.5 build since that's as close to current stock as you can get.

Make sure to read through all the instructions (general and E3D specific) before you try it and do all the pre-requisite things like backing up your SD card and preparing the wire to use for the wire trick.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] kc3:
Okay I'm trying to do this to obtain s-off but I'm having a problem. I'm running arch linux and do have adb & fastboot install as well as root access. I run ControlBear and it continuously stay at Starting up... It doesn't load past that, does this normally take a VERY long time? It's been running for probably over fifteen minutes now and won't make it past that :s
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Most users that have posted on this thread, including myself, have used the Windows version of controlbear. I'm not familar with the Linux version, but the developers are available on the #juopunutbear IRC channel on freenode and they have been very helpful. Instructions for logging into that channel from a browser are in this post.

Good luck!

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] kc3:
Thanks :) actually funny enough, I gave it a rest for the night and it worked lol don't think I changed anything but hey it worked :D
[HTC EVO 3D] djaykid11:
Worked first try!!! 1.5 S-OFF!!!! Thanks guys!!!!

Sent from my Evo 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] rigmort:
First try. Nice to not use fastboot recovery to flash stuff anymore.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Congratulations!

Nice to see more successful HBoot 1.5 S-OFF users. :)

I'm still amazed how easy this method is as long as you follow directions and prepare properly. I did my second phone in less than five minutes once the stock rooted rom was installed.

We all owe the developers our gratitude for giving us an easy method for gaining S-OFF. Please go to the OP of this thread and add your thanks if you haven't done that already.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] ronyoung08:
Is there a video tutorial for this?
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
There are some on the website for other devices, but I still haven't seen one specifically for the CDMA Evo 3D. The one linked in that post is actually more helpful than those on the unlimited.io site, even though it's for the HTC Amaze.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] djaykid11:
I can't get a pg86img to load on the juopunut bootloader...it won't see it even though it is placed on the root of the sd card...anyone else having this issue when trying to flash radios?

Sent from my Evo 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Did you rename the file to PG86IMG.zip? It may be case sensitive.

Also, if it doesn't recognize it immediately, try pressing the power button while you are on the fastboot option. And make sure there is an android-info.txt file included in the .zip.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] djaykid11:
Extra touch on the power button did the trick, thanks!!!

Sent from my Evo 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] arashed31:
I seriously spent a whole week tying to downgrade my 1.50 HBOOT and no matter how well I timed the battery pull or USB pull the phone would never brick. I saw this thread and assumed the wire-trick would be dangerous so I stayed away. But I just tried it last night and got S-OFF on my first try!

I immediately flashed Freeza's 2.17 firmware and then MeanROM ICS... IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL!!
[HTC EVO 3D] stealth919:
Worked excellent and extremely easy!!! Took 2 times though cuz I didn't realize that i needed to be looking at the screen to grant su permission until it was already finished unsuccesfully.
[HTC EVO 3D] mingolianbeef:
It worked it worked ommfg it worked thaaaannnkkkk yyouuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!

If i had a million bucks it would so be yours right now!!!!! :) :) :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Cynovae:
Actually, Zedomax just uploaded one!

Sorry, can't get the Youtube tags to work.
[HTC EVO 3D] zedomax:
You mean this?

[YOUTUBE]tRj47iFQvbE[/YOUTUBE]
[HTC EVO 3D] wbchristmas:
Used this method and it worked on the first try!

#500!
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
lol! You got S-OFF on May 21st. You posted again just to be #500? :)

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] wbchristmas:
Lol.. I remember fighting my phone so much to brick it via the other method that I could only stare in amazement as Juopunutbear freed my phone from the harmful effects of S-On-edness! That was a good feeling that day!
[HTC EVO 3D] pokedude750:
I just bought and EVO 3D and an Ethernet Cable of eBay

(Im going to rip a wire out of the cable for S-OFF LOL)
[HTC EVO 3D] guycan:
Fyi just make sure the EVO3d has a clean esn otherwise u will can't activate it on sprint but if it's a bad esn then u can flash to boost or metro good luck.
[HTC EVO 3D] pokedude750:
Its Clean He gave me the info and i looked it up and its clean.
[HTC EVO 3D] guycan:
O ok kool nice
[HTC EVO 3D] shonmac11:
after my first attempt which i failed, i got a message the next time i tried. i rebooted the phone and tried about 3 more times.

this is what the message said

Old beer detected...... Please wait......

Critical failure.... Cannot find a seat!!

Press ENTER to exit.....
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Haven't seen that one before. Make sure you have a stock rooted ROM installed and respond to the prompts for superuser access when the backups are running.

If that doesn't work, I would try getting some assistance with that from the developers on the #juopunutbear IRC channel on freenode. They are always very helpful.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] SPENONE:
I was using the anthrax kernal with icsdeck for the past month or so and it was a nightmare (for me). Phone wouldnt lock right, random freezes...i literally had to pull the battery like 5 times a day...PURE HELL.

After this method my phone is PERFECT. Thanks globatron! :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] Panface:
So, how long till this gets out of beta? I'm kind of waiting for ICS to release on sprint and upgrade to it before I try to S-Off.
[HTC EVO 3D] bangishotyou:
Thanks

Woo! Took me a few tries but I eventually got S-Off with this. Major thanks to the developer. Now to see what kind of trouble I can get up to now that I'm S-Off and about to go on my lunch break.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
I'm not trying to pressure you into doing it now, but most of us have done this on GB ROM's without problems. I'm not sure what waiting for the Sprint ICS release changes, other than having to use the ICS Leak version of the JuopunutBear download to do the process.

Those that have gotten S-OFF already probably don't want to take the OTA for the Sprint ICS when it releases, but I'm sure rooted .zip versions that can be flashed from recovery or the bootloader will be available within hours of its availability.

Also, if you are HTC unlocked already you will need to relock to take the ICS OTA or flash the .exe version of the ICS RUU, then HTC unlock and root again if you want to use this method.

ramjet73