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[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -Roze-:
@ TareX

Are you getting the LAG issue when you're just using the Blurr launcher? Try doing a factory reset to see if this is an issue with the phone itself. If it is, then you should exchange it for another model. I also have the Bell Atrix and had no issue with lags when my phone was not rooted and was just using Blurr for a few days. I'm currently rooted, frozed all of Bell/Blurr apps and I'm using ADW. The complaints so far seem to be from Bell Atrix owners or those with 1.26.

Was wondering if this was the starlight wallpaper you're talking about: http://www.androlib.com/android.screenshot.app.qmxAn-qEpAF.u.aspx
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I have this issue before and after factory resets, with Blur, or with any other launcher. And yes, this is the Starlight I'm talking about (completely unusable on the phone, too choppy homescreen); it's just an example of the lag. The LWP itself is not the correct size for an Atrix.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -Roze-:
You sir/mam have a lemon dud! Can you not return/exchange it for another Atrix? :(
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I will. It's just a needless hassle and I am amazed at the fact this almost doesn't happen with Apple products.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kdspiv:
Mine is still bone stock (no root, etc.) And I am using SPB 3D. My atrix is blazing fast. I updated as soon as I got it a week ago and I have been super happy with the speed of this phone.

After ordering the phone from att, I spent the next 2 days surfing the atrix forum. I was expecting the Atrix be terrible......but this phone has been amazing for me so far.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stewartsoda:
My brother-in-law went through three iPhone 4 phones before finding one that didn't randomly crash on him.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
[YOlol I found that....apresentation on CES

[YOUTUBE]www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8KGEYYGqlQ[/YOUTUBE]

terrible lag on atrix oO
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
-Owner of the youtube video that has been posted around this thread 3 or 4 times now-

Unfortunately for me the issue cannot simply be resolved by walking down the street to an AT&T store and getting it replaced, because I live in Australia and this phone was sent to me as a prize.. I don't know what to do except for wait for gingerbread to be released for it and hope that fixes issues. :/
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mpalatsi:
Have you tried flashing back to SBF? If that doesn't fix it, it's obviously hardware.

That's an easy way to troubleshoot. ;)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I'm having my replaced. My advice: Sell it and get the Nexus S.... then upgrade to the Nexus 3D by the end of the year. Clearly, the Nexus line is the best one to have. The only set back to this move is the lack of HD video recording -but you'll be able to play your mkv files unmodified.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zeotrope:
so was this actually confirmed to be a hardware issue? i read the entire thread and it seemed a bunch of people have the problem.

i have an AT&T branded atrix with 1.57 rooted. if i run a live wallpaper there is noticeable choppiness on the phone. I can't return it because I live in canada and got it off ebay a month ago.

it looked like 3 or 4 people in this thread had an issue with the laggy LWP. that seems like a very specific hardware problem as the phone i have is blazing fast at everything else EXCEPT running LWP.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
tbh I think selling the phone over a laggy animated wallpaper is a bit much, especially when the alternative is a single core (owning any single core phone now would feel like a very big downgrade in my opinion). If I notice any more bugs in the phone, and If motorola don't hurry up and release Gingerbread or an unlocked bootloader, then I will consider selling it and getting a Nexus, however until then, this phone is pretty much perfect.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zeotrope:
i agree. i think the lag for LWP is in all atrix's and is probably related to either the LWP scaling up the the atrix resolution or not taking advantage of the cpu.

it's a nagging thing, and the lack of unlocked bootloader sucks. my friend got a nexus s and i was helping him set it up, all of the roms he had to choose from made me jealous.

this phone has so much potential with the dock functionality if only the bootloader was unlocked, im hoping that will happen soon.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
But how do you explain all the other reports from Atrix users saying there's no choppiness with any LWPs?

I also had 8 hrs of battery life on Day 1 with minimal usage. Don't tell me it will get better at the beginning, I've already read way too many reviews and user posts of phenominal +18hr battery life with HEAVY usage on Day 1, sans calibration.

Not to mention the fact the gallery wouldn't show my images, only thumbnails.

I'm supposed to receive my replacement Atrix on Monday.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JdeFalconr:
Or, this is slightly OT, but my apps don't "fly in." If I hit the menu button to bring up the full menu of applications it just does a hard cut to them. In fact while in that YouTube video in the OP it shows a fade effect for all transitions my phone only does a hard cut each time.

I've also noticed some performance problems with live wallpapers but I also noticed that it varied with the number of widgets I had on a screen; when I went to a screen without any widgets it scrolls just great.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zeotrope:
they have a few less apps/services running and they simply don't notice the choppiness.

'heavy' usage is subjective.

i was worried i might have a lemon so i ran some benchmarks, then looked up the avg score for the atrix. i was consistently getting 2700 in quadrant which is what most atrix users seem to be getting, i was also getting the right score in linpack. there's no way i'd be getting those scores if i had a hardware issue that crippled the phone to the extent that i cant run LWP. plus, i've been playing full 3d games on this phone without a hiccup since day 1.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zeotrope:
if you're using the stock motoblur they wont fly in. OP was using launcher pro i think.

the issue i have is only with LWP. i've loaded 7 screens worth of icons and widgets with custom transition animations in launcher pro and it never lags. as soon as i add a LWP, the phone gets dummied
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankiedizzle87:
I love how people exaggerated "200$ G1
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I just used one word instead of describing their detailed experiences. Here's how one reviewer described it:

I, on the other hand, had zero games, zero data, zero apps, and didnt listen to music or download podcasts, and watched as my battery got drained down to 10% within 7 hours.

Again, many Atrix users are reporting smooth not-choppy-at-all experiences with LWPs.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
I will report now than =), I have this probleme in my atrix.....but got 2780 in quandrante and play fine all the games =)

soo.....the probleme still in resize and play frame by frame the LWP to this ****ing resolution.....anyone can try do an LWP with resolution for the LWP and try to see the diferences =)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Why should I give a rat's a$$ about Quadrant scores if in real-life usage, it offers an inferior experience compared to the other phones that don't drop to half the fps when running LWPs?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coldfusionb:
Give Flurry or Nexus Revamped pro from market a try they both run smooth on my phone.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I hope you understand the problem I'm referring to here. All LWPs "run smoothly" on my Atrix. It's the App drawer transition, the app scrolling, and homescreen sliding that become choppy.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
yeah..only if you have the live wallpaper but give the try with Photile live wallpaper....its free from marke...and U will see some diferences on your phone....=)

the probleme is....when u run the LWP in normal resolution, the phone need keeps the processor and ram run into the strech frame by frame on wallpaper....thats give an delay to other things
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coldfusionb:
Are you running launcher Pro or AWD? I run Launcher Pro on Gladiatrix rom and have no lag and smooth transition between screens, 3d App. drawer works OK, with 3d turned off works great.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
why you turn of the 3d animation? lol
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gn0s1s:
no lag for me.

ht tp:// ww w .youtube.com/watch?v=o2Cj6fSpY4w url(new user protection, although i ve been lurking for 4 years since my htc wizard, lol)

The sudden stops on the scrolling down are from me dragging my thumb over the home button, not from system responsiveness, hard to coordinate through an iphone camera lol.

I have rooted it, and done the titanium backup freeze to the bell/moto bloat. I have switched to go launcher ex as my home program, and since then, i get crazy good battery life, easily go a full day with heavy use, and if i use it normally, ie few emails, check twitter, post some pics, check ins, for lunch, i ll get to about 60 % 12 hours in of phone being off the charger, with wifi always on, gps on, Screen on autobright when outside, and low setting when inside @ the office.

Hopefully moto, puts out a 2.3 ota soon, that is optimized for tegra, as while i m not experiencing any lag, i think the phones hardware isnt being fully utilized in an efficient manner.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coldfusionb:
I don't turn off the 3d I like it, but that being said the App. drawer scrolls a little better with it turn off. Also the 3d drawer made my Nexus 1 App. drawer transition the same way.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41bObxKTB8A

this video as made it htc hd2
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gn0s1s:
hopefully the lag your seeing in 3d wallpapers will disappear in 2.4 gingerbread when dualcore is properly supported. :)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stewartsoda:
FUD. The apps need multicore optimizations. Android already supports multicore in 2.2.

Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Because of how quickly LW drained my Captivates battery, I stopped using them shortly after I got the phone and never tried them again since. A good alternative to LW is the app Wallr. I have a few hundred wallpapers anyways so I put them in a folder and Wallr changes them randomly on a set time interval. (I use 1min) Saves battery compared to LW.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
android 2.1 and 2.2 supports multicore but doesn't optimized for than

its the same thing put a windows 2000 or windows 98 or a old linux on quadcore or dual core...and the result its a piss of crap...they work....but don't work better than singlecore

processor
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -Roze-:
Wait 2.1 and 2.2 supports multicore? I thought it didn't? How does it support?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Silent8Strike:
Read this article, it explains how it works. http://androidnexus.com/android-news/nvidia-tegra-2-review-and-multi-core-support-in-android

Also means that there is no excuse for the ****ty LWP performance, and for those that think its a hardware issue, I have had the problem on both my Atrix phones, and my friend also has it on his.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
My new Atrix arrives in 2 days. Can you tell me if the lag is still there with PhoTile LWP? It's the only qHD live wallpaper...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
still very apparent with that LWP
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Silent8Strike:
Yes I still get lots of lag with that LWP.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bracemg:
Same here. Get incredible lag when using LP widgets and with transition after clicking app drawer.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bracemg:
Has anyone viewed LWP on Gingerblur to see if it lags when press app drawer?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonelyboi527:
Maybe because some coding issues on the phone? is it using tegra? maybe if it was setup to use tegra to handle live wallpaper it'd be smooth?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lost2030:
Mine lags pretty bad as well with LWP.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knigitz:
I've said this before. Nothing is wrong with the phone.

LauncherPro and ADW Launcher are not optimized to work with live wallpapers. There are various posts with a multitude of phones NOT just the Atrix concerning these issues.

Try the stock launcher, things will be much more smooth. It's not the phone.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mchimney:
I'm on stock and i have this same issue?

Why CAN'T it be the phone?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slimslim:
Because the phone has the potential. Did you play games? Did you do benchmarks? Unfortunately the lwp cause lag on many Android devices, I think is the way they are implemented. I've tested in Incredible and Droid 2. I use Go Launcher ex and still have some lag with lwp.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgtmedeiros:
Guys I'm on an inspire and no lag here, I think its the software, on cm there's no lwp lag or any lag for that matter lol. The inspire is less powerful then the atrix so there really isn't any other explanation. All lwp don't lag with every launcher I've used
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plemen:
Yup - the Galaxy S handles the lwp much better using ADW or Go. I think the this is an issue of the UI graphics driver not being optimized for our phone; I'm sure this can be fixed by Moto / NVidia but I bet they are all just leaving it for Gingerbread.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bracemg:
Again, can anyone tell me if u receive lag on stock Gingerblur?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
again, my video in the OP IS running stock gingerblur, but if you mean the launcher, then yes I've tried it, yes it's still apparent
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mchimney:
Potential means nothing. Reality is everything
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knigitz:
The phone has no hardware acceleration due to the version of Android. There are plenty of threads on ADW and LauncherPro forums concerning lag when using live wallpapers and I'm sure the issue is consistent with any launcher and on many different android devices and versions.

You may notice it more on this phone because without a live wallpaper it is much faster than other phones and thus the impact would be more severe. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen on a lot of other devices. Grab a phone with an ASOP on it and you'll probably experience the same.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plemen:
This may also be an issue on some phones but this is not a problem on a Galaxy S and I'm sure others work fine too. The lag happens on the Atrix with any launcher (including stock) - the fact that the Atrix has a faster processor should make it smoother rather than the problem more noticeable as you are suggesting... since the Galaxy S has significantly slower processor than the Atrix I suspect the UI graphics driver on the Atrix just isn't optimized for it.

My point is that it is an actual problem on the Atrix rather than a perception problem. I'm sure it will be rectified with an update sooner or later.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bracemg:
Has anyone asked Invidia or Moto about this?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bracemg:
I tried to speak with someone at Moto about this today. They just recommended I do a factory reset and get in contact with the launcherpro developer (bc it doesn't lag when pressing app drawer on motoblur because there are no animations).

However, I also noticed today that I get frame rate reduction when pressing the forecast on beautiful widgets and the animations come up. Obviously, this is not an app issue, this is an atrix issue.

This is frustrating the crap out of me, can someone, anyone offer any type of guidance? Anyone know someone besides moto's indian support team that I can contact? (no offense)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jason.hamilton:
It is annoying. I like my android buttery smooth. I must not have lag. So now i am unable to use LWP on the most advanced android phone. My nexus one has no problem running LWP when it was back on 2.1.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guidoido004:
i got the same problem =/

the problem is with launcher pro

^^

i used adw/launcher pro/HE launcher/ and the only one that did it was launcher pro

hope that this info may be usefull
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Exactly. The Atrix is a big disappointment.

The only time I feel the power of Tegra 2 is when running flash video in the browser. That's it.

But the reality is, I own a phone (which was overpriced) that can't handle live wallpapers.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daysyang:
my atrix runs fine with lwp... but my friends has horrible lag with it... he just got his has no launchers nothing just downloaded solar lwp app cause he saw it on mines and thought it was cool but it lags when he scrolling through home screens very noticable. was wondering if theres a solution or not so i can tell him to exchange for another 1.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I already tried having mine exchanged: Same lag when scrolling.

Yours seems to be the exception... have you done anything special to it?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daysyang:
nope, mines never had that problem... from day 1...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FabricioGS:
Just did a quick test and with Zeam Laucher seems a little bit better (less lag), but I love LaucherPro Plus, so I'll stick with a simple wallpaper until we have a decent Android version suitable to our device (or maybe I sell it before.. lol).
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geekalok:
Just installed Photile LWP. No lag experienced whatsoever.

However its using too much CPU and I am getting watchdog alerts...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Lags with PhoTile when I bring up the 3D drawer (when icons fly in), when I swipe screens, and when I scroll through the apps.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geekalok:
Oh, I did not experience lag whatsoever. I then tried the Grass wallpaper and again no Lag. I am using ADW Ex as launcher.

Only issue, watchdog throws up alert on LWP when it uses more than 20% CPU..
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snowflak168:
My rooted Atrix (Asia version 4.0.500) with Launcher Pro Plus works fine with all LWP, no lags whatsoever!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
if it helps I compared my Atrix (in the video/my video) to the store model in Telstra and the Telstra store model had the same lag, it just wasn't as apparent as mine, I then went and installed Launcher Pro and it had the exact same lag / choppyness.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmer411:
You guys using setcpu? Since removing it I've had no lag on the homescreen
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snowflak168:
I'm using it and no problem here with LWP. :-)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
No I haven't cos I did't think there was any point with such a 'powerful' phone.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nosit1:
Stop using your fancy live wallpapers and raping your poor battery! No wallpaper equals no lag!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stratax:
would love to see a G1 run that smooth.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChongoDroid:
Its ok guys.. They are live wallpapers

Sent from my Googletron
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] p0xer:
well.. i've just seen today a Galaxy S running Starlight without any lag..

so.. no lw = no lag === a solution for fags.

if a Galaxy S can run it smoothly, so is the atrix.. we just need to figure out how.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Does the Atrix have a qHD screen and a brand new Tegra 2 inside? It's a problem of support.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
Hey, with the 2.3.4 HKTW ROM... my problems still exist (see video).
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] purpler:
I tried flashing CM7 on my new Atrix i just bought and it was laggy both live wallpapers and entering the app drawer. gone back to stock ROM and it works just fine. battery doesnt drain too. CM on Atrix is garbage. We should wait for ICS port (CM9)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alcapone263:
i always use live wallpapers, on CM or stock ROMs, and have never experienced this lag that you talk about. always use the 1.0ghz enhanced kernel from Faux as well. as a matter of fact, i can't tell any sort of difference lag-wise between CM7 or a stock ROM, the only difference there is for me is the fact that CM7 is highly customizable compared to stock.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phalanx7621:
Rofl. I really hope u dont get flamed too hard for this but...eeek that wasn't a smart thing to say.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lradke:
I must agree with that.

An alternate to cm7 could've Dorian's RedPill. I believe there is a link tout jnthw dev thread. It is just a tweaked cm7 for more stability etc. One thing to keep unkind is that cm7 is used and loved by lots of people so it may just be your phone. Mine was similar to yours but with RC1 (RedPill) it is as smooth as can be!

Tapa'd while cruising the RedPill Hybrid!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Foka002:
Live wallpapers are not for this device unless you don't mind a little lag. I tried every rom and launcher and non of them work as I would expect. I think SenseUI handles LW excellent on my wife desire HD. Tried LW on ZTE Blade and HTC Hero and they are very similar to atrix :/
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SS2006:
The Xoom is released in Canada now. But the market is so bad compared to living in the USA.

For one, we don't see a 'Tablet App' section, so it simpossible to weed out tablet specific apps, this leaves me with so many FC's on apps. Real stupid by google..

Another ofcourse is we don't see apps such as Google books, Pandora etc.. this was fixable using rac's Market Enabler, but since the wifi xoom has no GSM it won't do anything..

So does anyone have any idea, perhaps modify the vending apk to seem it is located in USA

Thanks alot
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crauzz:
Have you tried going to the marketplace from withing your browser? It is a bit more functional. It even shows which apps you have already installed without having to go into the my apps section.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SS2006:
no difference unfortunately
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poisike:
The Featured tablet apps shows only some tablet apps (in US), not all tablet apps, so even this isn't a solution for your problem. Give it some time, i'm convinced that developrs will update their apps to support Honeycomb.

About the apps that are made for US customers, it should be possible to access US Android Market on wifi only Xoom by using US VPN and disabling other location services in setting, but I haven't tried it.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
"Market Enabler "

Sent from my GT-P1000
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jewremy:
Have you tried copying the build.prop from a US Xoom? Just an idea.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Synman:
i would go with build.prop before enabler. my wifi xoom does the market without issue and I didn't touch carrier status at all.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SS2006:
Market.enabler.wont work

Wifi xoom has no GSM

And I do have the USA xoom imported it :p
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salahag:
I have a US imported xoom too. I connected to a VPN in US, cleared Market data from Setting/Applications and the market showed the Tablet Apps section. But... I tried buying apps and I got a message that it's not allowed (or something) by my carrier!!!