yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
You can feel free not to use my work as well....

FWIW, the original comment was to be taken as that we already have a real Froyo experience, and not everyone feels that way (that EC10 is the "true" Froyo experience). Especially sicne EC10 is MOSTLY EB01 rehashed with a different radio that we can't even use.

Yet, someone sought to attack me for no reason, and be civil all you want, you joined in. So as far as I am concerned...to hell with you.
[Fascinate General] SOTK:
Fair enough. We're all entitled to our opinion. Point taken on probably best to not comment. If you look through my posting history, I've hardly posted. I will only post opinions like this when I've had enough, but I do agree that I and others should strive to keep negative opinions to ourselves.
[Fascinate General] gunnermike:
aaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!! you are driving me crazy!!!!!!!! you cant say stuff like that. why do t you go to an AA meeting and drink some beer. :p
[Fascinate General] haterclaus63:
Who ever went back to 2.1 your nuts!!! You need tohave a voodoo kernel to make your phone fly..

superfrankingclean 2.9.2 samsung fascinate.....with fascinating sense 2.5
[Fascinate General] ashasaur:
Folks. STOP. ARGUING. I have done some *slight* cleaning to this thread, and further arguing will not be tolerated.

Anymore people picking a fight or trying to troll should be reported to me via PM please.

Thanks-saur
[Fascinate General] scarfman4:
Back to the topic, before I decided to root I was running EA28 OTA and had it lock up on me requiring a battery pull. As this started happening to me one day after my 14 day trial was up, I decided to try the custom roms, either EB01 debloated/deodexed or different varieties of Superclean. Never had a lockup. At one point I went back to DI01 and OTAed to EA28. Five minutes afterwards it locked up again. So now I'm back on Superclean and I've been very reluctant to ever go back.

Just my 2¢ worth.

Sent from my Fascinate

Superclean 2.9.1

EB16 voodoo kernel

EA28 radio
[Fascinate General] Scrappy1:
This is a great example. Reminds me of elementary school.
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
Anyone want to bet this fool will br downloading my stuff tonight? Hypocrites abound.
[Fascinate General] landshark68:
Ha ha! Thank you sir. Using my superior deductive reasoning, your statement leads me to believe you will be releasing the new goodie tonight. Bring on that bad boy.
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
Personally I think dh12 with some oclf goodness was the height of fascinate performance!

Remember those super awesome quadrant scores that gave everyone a hard on and made droid x owners jealous?

Im going back to that....I hope devs wise up and start dropping some new roms and kernels for it
[Fascinate General] Legato525:
Not a fair statement. I used sc for weeks, it ran great other than battery life. I tried for weeks to get the battery drain under control and finally went back to stock. 5 hours of battery life is not acceptable. Not that that's a development problem, I applaude adrynes rom and the great work he does un fortunatly not all fascinates seem to respect sc code.
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
The people on this thread are conversing about their experiences, they obviously want to do so. I have not seen any major complaining, just people weighing their personal experiences with different roms. If its not a conversion you want to be a part of then STFU and stop trolling!

sent from my frozen yogurt filled fascinate!

Edit there (was) no complaining at the page this quote took place.. It was before the mass of trolling
[Fascinate General] lbmorgan:
Sometimes I really can not believe some of the nonsense I read here.

1) If a person is going to spend countless hours developing for free, it is 100% expected that person is going to be defensive about their work.

2) If a user asks a stupid question, they should expect a stupid answer.

3) Instead of complaining about other peoples work, do your own.

Sometimes I honestly wish the only threads that could be posted on this forum were from developers.

Now, I agree that unofficial 2.2 Roms are not as stable as the official 2.1. However, that is to be 100% expected. The source for unreleased versions of Android OS are usually still being tested and worked out by the manufacturer. If everything about the source was 100% stable, we would have an official Android 2.2 Rom. Finally, I understand it is necessary to discuss (vent) our experiences and issues with custom Roms. However, it has no benefit to the whole community to place blame on developers for these instabilities as well as point them out for their short comings. Being able to develop any type of custom Rom is an achievement and should be greatly appreciated.

Now go ahead and freak out on me.
[Fascinate General] minho422:
I don't know why these people are quarreling for...You guys were able to pick out what you wanted more for the fascinate since Adryn and other developers were able to show us the possibilities; without them, nothing would've started. These guys are not selling products; their works are purely dedicated to us directly with a cost of their time and stress. So we 'may' share our opinions and further needs, but we're in no position to complain. That's just childish.

Also, think about yourselves before belittling others; how perfect are you to be judging other's personality? An advice to a person's lackness is acceptable, but how can you define what is bad and good about one's personality? Anyone who wishes to act immaturely further on, just think about It.

I am not criticizing anyone here directly, and I take neither sides dependable, although I thank Adryn and all xda developers accordingly. Please do not continue arguing immaturely. Adryn has his peraonal life and developments to take care of, instead of raging on a thread on internet all day.
[Fascinate General] JeXus:
I am currently running SC 2.9.2 with Jt's EC10 Kernal and Adrenelyne's EB01 Radio, battery life, gps and date miles ahead of what it used to be stock!
[Fascinate General] dfa7:
Rooted - Voodoo-ed - EC10SuperClean_292x_DXC.tar.md5.tar + ec01_radio.tar and couldn't be happier! Nothing is flawless, but this is pretty close except for flaky GPS. Battery is actually acceptable. Blows away bloated stock and why wouldn't anyone want to give it a ride?
[Fascinate General] donots06:
I'm running the latest of DeezNotes MIUI test builds, JT's AOSP voodoo rom and the ec01 radio. Happiest I've been with my phone for awhile.
[Fascinate General] Snwbrdrxtreme69:
Fully agree. Once you flash a custom 2.2 rom you wouldnt consider going back to 2.1 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1029436

Thats what im running and its great!
[Fascinate General] pwshadow:
What? Seriously? Go back to 2.1? Never! SC2.9 voodoo is faster, smoother, better looking, de-binged, has gps, and has flash. Also it doesnt capitalize the first two letters in the browser. The only thing thats worse is battery life. And its a smartphone, I expect low battery life. Im sorry but I like my web pages to load instantly and my apps to download fast. 2.1 sucked.
[Fascinate General] ChrisDDD:
I'm back on 2.1, entirely due to battery life. On 2.2, with average use, I could not make it through a day. With slightly above average use, I was hunting for the charger by 6pm. I tried all the undervolted kernels, I tried underclocking, and nothing made any difference at all.

On 2.1, I'm getting easily 2 to 3x the battery life. If 2.2 (or 2.3) rectifies the battery drain issues, I'll happily switch back, but for now, it's just not worth the hassle. I can live without Flash, I can't live with a cell phone that needs to be tethered to a wall outlet.
[Fascinate General] worwig:
Odd how that is.

With 2.1 may battery would be lucky to go 12 hours. I would usually need to recharge at least once mid day.

Yesterday, with 2.2 (Superclean 2.9.2) installed, I went for 16 hours, even used the GPS for about 1/2 hour checking rush hour traffic, and it was at 38% when I plugged it in.

Much better, plus my GPS works much better.
[Fascinate General] sorb3t:
Try [ROM][Radio][4.10.11]EC01 by adrynalyn with the kernal included in that thread. I run the voodoo version. Best batt life IMO. Follow the instructions and wipe and update radio. I'm not looking for another rom ATM becuase of it.
[Fascinate General] Jinhoeric:
froyo to 2.1

i used to have froyo on my phone but after a while i noticed sveral errors since the froyo i used was a leaked version. the errors tha you also mightve noticed is that skype wasnt there. i usually eed skype to talk to friends and family online but it wasnt there. also if you are watching a video on youtube and you turn your phone off without pausing, the sound of the video is still left on. this is wuite annoying as i turn my phone on and off alot. also on the music player, the music player doesnt have the control panel to control ehich song your on if your phone is off or the music is running on background mode. i think froyo would be much better if it was tecreated and fixed by verizon which im sure they will. i strongly urge u to change back to eclair.
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
the VAAAAAAST majority of the root community is on froyo and happy...eclair is ancient and over (froyo almost is too)
[Fascinate General] darkandlovely:
How do i go about flashing back to 2.1? Cant seem to even find the page that told me how to upgrade. Also can anyone tell me how to save a copy of original rom on a samsung showcase that has never been modified? I didnt do a backup on mine cause i couldnt get it to work but my sister just got one so i can backup hers in order to put my phone back how it was when i got it.

Thanks
[Fascinate General] Snakehn:
When I got my fascinate it was already rooted with 2.2 which I used for a few weeks but the rom wasn't stable so I flashed back to stock 2.1 and missed a few features from froyo and ended up re-rooting with adry's ec01 and I'm more than happy, battery life is my only complaint.

Waiting for a 2.3 rom now.
[Fascinate General] lebstyle:
Anyone having problems with battery should honestly go on ebay and spend 20 bucks to invest in a 3500 may battery. Problem solved, I can easily go two day without a charge on moderate use an still have juice. It makes your phone look like a beast but since the fascinated is so skinny to begin with it is worth it.
[Fascinate General] BartJJ:
You can just use odin to go back to 2.1, keep in mind that anything you want to keep needs to be backed up and all system app data will be lost. Also, if you need to save texts download a sms backup app because thats the only way I know of to save texts and restore them between incompatable ROMs
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wearmaize:
I recently acquired an X10a and I quickly upgraded it to 2.1. I'm using LauncherPro and so far, I'm loving the phone except for a couple of issues:

1) No matter what keyboard I use, it's really slow. I'm a fast typist and so far Swype and SwiftKey seem to work a lot more slowly than on my Samsung vibrant.

2) when I receive picture messages, and tap on the picture to view it in Mediascape, nothing happens. The only way I can view the picture is with Astro.

Any suggestions?

Finally, I'd love to upgrade to Froyo. My ideal ROM would be close to stock Froyo that's reliable and gets good battery life, nothing fancy.

Thanks everyone :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] compumasta:
Installing jit v2 should help the stock rom but if you wanna upgrade I suggest Z's beta 4 if you want vanilla or a lot of people use wolfbreaks if you want a prettier alternative. Note: do not install jit in froyo roms as it is already included and will cause problems if you install it again.

Sent from my Delorean using a flux capacitor!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wearmaize:
Downloading as we speak :)

Edit- ok, stock 2.1 is tons better. What's the easiest way back?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Realorasz:
Actually, you'll really love it with Wolfbreak's FroYo ROM. Flash it and let it settle a few days and it's hella snappy with awesome battery performance. But the batt performance sadly is only if you can live without timescape, in my expperience. Flashing his ARC Timescape made the phone hela LAGGY and the battery burned off 1% a minute. I deleted all the TS stuff and it went back to awesomness.

Also I personally like sicNside's Lucid theme for WB's ROM, but there's a catch there as well. It'll modify some system apps. Bad thing because itll take away the awesome phonebook/dialer from ARC. I have, however, redone the zip for Wolf's ROM to make it not do that.

That's my $0.02
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wearmaize:
I just flashed Wolfbreak's Froyo ROM and so far I love it :) Thanks for the advice!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Realorasz:
No prob.

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From my X10a running WB CM 6.1.3 V054 with Swype Keyboard
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] tatico28:
this is the text message I received today from simple mobile:

"Your simple mobile data service is in jeopardy of being suspended due to violation of terms and condition"

And this is my data usage so far:

Activation Date Mar 12 2011, Rep-Up by Apr 12, 2011.

Plan: $60 Talk Text

Unlimited Data, Usage: 1,827 Min, 173 Text, Data 2,348.636 MB.

anyone else in this situation ?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] orionshock:
IMO It's a phishing txt... /ignore & /TB_Freez Msging_App
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RichieDaze:
Your simple mobile data service is in jeopardy of being suspended due to violation of

This is NOT a phishing scam!!!:eek:

I too received the same message on April 6.

My data has been

CAPPED

!

Usage:

Voice (Min): 614

SMS Messages (Count): 3

Data (MB): 2194 MB

:mad: I Called Simple. They could not determine

source of problem

. Submitted ticket to Corporate Office.

Plan ends today. Lets see if it gets reset by itself. Will keep results posted!

We must have something in common. Hopefully more people post here so we can better analyze our situation...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] tatico28:
I REUP last night thinking that the issue will reset once I started fresh, but I'm experiencing super slow speed.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] golmar88:
You both are over 2GB data. Is there anything that says you will be throttled after 2GB?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] tatico28:
I'm going to check the terms and conditions but it's unlimited data supose.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
people always confuse the term "unlimited" Unlimited doesnt mean you can download as much as you want as fast as you want, it just means you will always have access to data. hence the term Unlimited Data. Check you TOS, or call the CS and ask what the Data Usage limit is.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RichieDaze:
Truly unlimited, but CAPPED!

For Your Information:

Simple Mobile piggy backs T-Mobiles lines.

T-Mobile Still offers Unlimited but, you get capped if you go over their 5Gigs.

But T-Mobile now has 59.99 unlimited plans and they lowered their 4G limit to 2Gigs.

They still keep true to their word, but they CAP YOU INSTEAD!!!

Simple Mobile follows T-Mobile standards.

Source: http://goo.gl/kDhtF

My reup has not taken place yet. Will post if cap has been removed after new reup!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RichieDaze:
Simple Mobile Caps you after 2 gigabytes usage of data!

Reup took place and internet is back at full speed

Conclusion:

Service was Capped (restricted up/download speeds) after 2 gigabytes of data services use.

Thanks to everyone that participated in the conduction of this problem and in helping to come to this conclusion.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Rich8692:
Simple mobile cap

I believe that they cap you after you hit over 200 mb on your 2 gig limit, then they just throttle your network. I've been using simple mobile for about a year now and has happened to me twice. I've just gotton so use to wifi when possible like at home and work
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] turtlepa:
Its 2.5gig now at 60
[Captivate General] ytt3r:
Reserved as a natural reflex
[Captivate General] designfears:
There were similar stories like this when iOS 3 or 4 was getting ready to come out. Turned out to be a hoax but it did throw up some red flags for me.

Someone needs to take a fine-toothed comb to the user agreements because I really doubt they can legally checkup on your device when they want to, especially without mentioning this software has been added to the device.
[Captivate General] ytt3r:
I highly doubt this is a hoax. We seriously need to cover ourselves. This is scary stuff.
[Captivate General] TheEscapist:
Glorious Canada!

But in all seriousness, I believe that this can be dealt with. As for tethering, they have every right to kick you off the network if you aren't paying for a tethering plan (yes, tethering plans are a complete money grab, but you are still violating the TOS). For the OTA, we could spoof it, answering the call, downloading the update, then deleting it and reporting updated with out ever updating.
[Captivate General] nickm50:
Luckily our Rogers Captivates don't do OTA updates! Not yet, anyways.

And Fully agree on the tethering.
[Captivate General] aaronv89:
We have some very talented people in this community. I, personally, don't know anything about android development. But I do have enough knowledge about development to know that anything can be reversed, tricked, or even stopped. We have the skills, man-power, and will. We'll be okay in the long-run.

I'm not worried.
[Captivate General] comdei:
We need to comb over the TOS and see if they can legally do this.

How would they hide this program?
[Captivate General] ytt3r:
they can't. I don't think its implemented yet on any gsm phones, but we know for a fact that the leaked gingerbread for droid x has it.
[Captivate General] nickm50:
In Canada they have to inform you of changes, from that point you have 30 days to cancel your contract without any penalty, as it is a change of agreement. Not sure if this relates to you US guys and girls,

Also, if they do this, what is to stop you from buying a pay as you go sim card, and using it on your smart phones. The pay as you go plans here in canada have the same options as a contract plan......

So this almost makes no sense....
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
What a better way to lose a bunch of customers. Doesn't make sense to me either.

You'd think they realize that communities like XDA make having phones like this worthwhile. :confused:

Quickest way to kill off the Android platform would be to limit us to the crap roms the carriers put out. I never even thought of an iPhone until I heard this!
[Captivate General] whiteguypl:
I fail to see how they could legally do this. Not to mention forcing an etf will result in people switching networks. No one would put up with that and stay with them.
[Captivate General] ls377:
If this is true, I wonder how hard it would be to hack the app and just have it send back false information.
[Captivate General] aaronv89:
I think it would be things like side-loading apps or free tethering that they're primarily concerned about.
[Captivate General] groves226:
I wonder if the penalty will only go against giys who get subsidized phones. I buy my phones out right so for that to happen would be off putting.
[Captivate General] Lucke:
seems very questionable from a legal standpoint. not sure how they can have anything hidden from a user that buys the phone from them, without actually disclosing that it's on there... without a massive lawsuit anyways.

wonder what google thinks of this?
[Captivate General] tjsooley:
They can't force a ETF that would be illegal if your not violating your contract i.e. tethering.

I have never tethered at all and would gladly cancel my att contract with paying the etf if this happened. IF ATT wont let me use my phone as I want as long as I am not stealing service I will take my service to a carrier that will END OF STORY.
[Captivate General] nickm50:
Does this mean the Communities are a lot larger than we think? I originally thought that we were a small marketplace, and didn't have a major impact on things.

So if the Carriers and manufacturers are investing this kind of time, money and effort into stopping the modifications, We must be causing havoc.......

Still doesn't make sense............
[Captivate General] nickm50:
Read the linked threads.......They say Google is helping them.
[Captivate General] Justinph5:
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/04/06/6419016-google-tightens-reins-on-android-

It looks like Google is thinking of locking down also. It would protect us from Carrier modding woes, but what's gonna start happening when they decide not to release source codes.... :(
[Captivate General] tjsooley:
say hi to the satanic iphone for me.
[Captivate General] tjsooley:
just did some reading and sounds like disinformation to insight fear in the android community.

I DO NOT ADVOCATE STEELING SERVICE FROM ATT OR ANY CARRIER.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...paTJDw&usg=AFQjCNEp7gzOFM94os2l38Itqam29nd5qw
[Captivate General] TheEscapist:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/?hl=en

See the first blog post from Andy Rubin himself.
[Captivate General] tjsooley:
like I say all BULLSHI*

But stop Illegal tethering
[Captivate General] nickm50:
Maybe the Devs can remove the tethering feature from the roms?
[Captivate General] comdei:
aww **** then google got the apple bug when they lost eric
[Captivate General] nickm50:
If Android ever turns into Apple, I'm going to go back to rocking my old StarTak from the 90's

I'm a proud member of the Android Army!
[Captivate General] tjsooley:
if this happens I am back to my old trusty N95-3
[Captivate General] jgrnght:
Startac I believe...

was that the second generation one? (the gray one)

I also had the black one... first generation, I think it was the Timeport?
[Captivate General] nickm50:
Your right with a C.

First gen.........
[Captivate General] nickm50:
That phone was the coolest thing back in the day!

EDIT: Clicked quote instead of edit :(
[Captivate General] jgrnght:
Oooo that one has the color screen lol
[Captivate General] comdei:
I think they wouldn't be able to make you pay ETF...

I would just get a prepaid card instead lmao
[Captivate General] nickm50:
I would agree with this. If they cancel you, then they are refusing your business..

Its not like you just skipped out.
[Captivate General] fldude99:
I call BS on this game. It's amazing what rumors can be started and get folks panties in an uproar
[Captivate General] tnerb123:
They have to release the source code. There using parts of Linux which is open source. And part of the agreement of using Linux states you must provide its source code.
[Captivate General] nickm50:
Parts of Linux??????????????

Its mostly linux....... That's why it's Awesome!
[Captivate General] ytt3r:
You guys, this has nothing to do with android becoming closed source, which wont happen. This is about the carriers doing things to prevent you from illegally tethering your phone/generally stealing services from them.
[Captivate General] comdei:
Let the liberals/FCC know that the companies are invading out privacy :)
[Captivate General] TheEscapist:
Actually, only the kernel has to be released (which does happen, and has nothing to do with Google). Android itself, is under the Apache license, which does not require releasing source.
[Captivate General] comdei:
This sadly, just because it is open source does not mean that they are forced to release their modified source...
[Captivate General] tjsooley:
this is irrelevant as to I will never buy a carrier branded phone anymore.

The savings is not worth the aggravation of branded software.