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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
For me deal is quite simpe...

If new GT comes with exynos - I WANT IT

If new GT comes with tegra 2 I want transformer :-)

I am sure I do not want 10.1v - I could change my mind if it would go down in price 50% (which it wont). 10.1v is nice design but bad idea from the start... to high price for such limited options.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kwagga:
galtom, I couldn't agree more.

It had the potential to blow away all other tablets for the year 2011, if Samsung only made a couple small adjustments. The BOM (Bill Of Materials), from the GT-P1000, would indicate that Samsung is raking in massive profits, so it's wouldn't have hurt them just to rethink this device a bit. Instead they are now wasting natural resources and money on the production of this dead-device-walking... ;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
kwagga

It had the potential to blow away all other tablets for the year 2011, if Samsung only made a couple small adjustments. The BOM (Bill Of Materials), from the GT-P1000, would indicate that Samsung is raking in massive profits, so it's wouldn't have hurt them just to rethink this device a bit. Instead they are now wasting natural resources and money on the production of this dead-device-walking...

I think they exactly doing that. They did re-think and come up with new 10.1

The only 10.1 they have produced are the one ordered by Vodafone - so Samsung has already sold tham - Vodafone is now f...ed. It is not like that have full warehouses of 10.1v for everyone.

The only reason they (Samsung) are fairly quiet with SoC in new 10.1 is that they want this way to help Vodafone sell 10.1v. If it would be clearly announced that New 10.1 is coming in 2 months to EU/USA, that it will be better than all other tegra based tablets - 10.1v including) - who would buy 10.1v?

Vodafone is important partner - they did made their own decision in Feb. , wrong one and Samsung will not buy 10.1v back (why would they) but they can keep silence over new 10.1 for few days more so Vodafone will sell at least some of ordered tablets for asking price. Once Trasformer is out, Iconia is out they will have to lower the price anyway and introducing new 10.1 to the market will not be blamed for poor sales of 10.1v
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
Why do you want Transformer if both use the same Tegra 2? :)

And the performance of Exynos + Mali 400 is not that impressive compared to Tegra 2 or Power VR:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
1. Option to buy docking if I would find it use full.

2. Exactly same hardware.

3. Most important: if the only difference is size an few grams why would I wait?

I am not worried to much about overall performance of the Exynos. I am not a gamer... but.. I do not have much free time. The one I have I want to spent on browsing net on the tablet, reading and watching movies... I do not wish to be forced to convert them first to watch later (most of the stuff I have or download would need that - 720p mkv High Profile). I do not know much about it and I do not wish to know more - that is why I do not have an iPad. It does not play what I watch :-). My hope is that Exynos will be free of this limitation (since Galaxy Tab 7" did not have this problem). If not I will buy anything that is cheap, not too heavy (Xoom), has sd slot and available at once :-).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
I don't think current Galaxy Tab 7" uses Exynos + Mali 400.

If I am not mistaken, it is using Hummingbird + Power VR.

But yeah, I hope that as well. That the Exynos + Mali 400 will be powerful enough for 720p High Profile.

For me, I don't really need that power because I don't watch movie that much in a tablet. I prefer on my big screen TV anyway.

And I don't mind SD quality for movie :)

And for waiting ... I can wait :)

I am not rushing this "new" Android thing as I read current Honeycomb is not that stable. I am really curious with the Google IO ... so, I can wait.

Oh btw, Samsung Galaxy S II is just around the corner, May 1st in the UK!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-to-be-available-may-1st-in-the-uk/

Dual core 1.2GHz ...

We can see Exynos benchmark and its capabilities then!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kwagga:
You are correct.

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2568&view=1&c=samsung_gt-p1000_galaxy_tab_32gb
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] StuMcBill:
Taken straight off the Samsung Site:

Does this give any clues as to CPU selections? Since the Tegra 2 has trouble playing 1080P. This claims to be "seamless"!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kwagga:
If that is the case, and it doesn't do as the advertisement says, they can be taken to court, for misleading claims, or at least, here in South Africa at least. The Consumer Protection Act is very aggressive towards false/misleading advertisements and statements.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
1080p is quite abroad ...

The most crucial thing is the h.264 compression profile.

There is standard baseline profile, main profile, and high profile.

Xoom support officially only the baseline profile.

iPad2 officially support up to main profile.

High profile requires more processing power.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kwagga:
Can anyone dig up any information/specifications on the next generation of Samsung tablets? - the ones with HDMI, MicroSD, DLNA, Gorilla Glass and Super PLS displays? - Perhaps the Galaxy Tab 3?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2806&c=samsung_gt-p7100_galaxy_tab_10.1_64gb

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2831&c=samsung_galaxy_tab_8.9_32gb

But I do not know where did they confirmed that Exynos will be the SOC in those new G Tabs...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kwagga:
Thanks galtom, reading now...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] htowngator:
Yea, the links he posted there tell about everything except the Super PLS and gorilla glass. I know they said at MWC that the screens are SPLS, but I didn't hear about the gorilla glass.

Who said they'd have that?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kwagga:
I'm looking for the links now, will reply when I get them.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] haruryu:
I Hope that if we are going to root the device there will be no difference between the 10.1 and 10.1v (vodafone)

:)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] borchgrevink:
But, even though it runs vanilla HC, will it be able to update directly when Google releases new updates, or do we have to wit for Samsung in some way?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
Well, I suppose that if 10.1v and 10.1 will have two different SoC's there will be differences....

Do you know if any of them comes in with built in Divix support?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
It will wait for Samsung to provide update ...

The same with Xoom, user must wait for Motorola ...

There is no "Nexus" device line (which get update directly from Google) for tablet, not yet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
LG is in process of building one for Google. Looks like Googole was/is not happy with Xoom and partnership with Moto.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Techno79:
Is it the processor that determines what video formats can be played by the phone? I never knew this. So if the Tegra 2 can't play MKV, DivX and Xvid video files, then how do the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (new and old) claim to have support for DivX and Xvid? Do they have a non-Tegra 2 proc or they just doing stuff in software?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
Read:

1. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=968308

2. http://niallohiggins.com/2011/03/07/3-surprising-things-about-video-on-android-tablets/

3. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4144/...ra-2-review-the-first-dual-core-smartphone/14
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] htowngator:
That's been the discussion about whether this thing is the Exynos processor or not.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
Galaxy Tab (7") is not based on tegra.

Galaxy Tab 10.1v (thick) is 100% based o tegra (go to xoom or adam ink forums to read about video playback issues + no sd card support :-(). I have not seen anywhere a divix certificate where this tab is concerned.

Galaxy Tab 10.1 & 8.9 (new ones) - it is unknown at this stage what ARM CPU will sit inside. It will be either Tegra 2 or Samsung Exynos or both (Exynos for some regions and Tegra for some). I suppos it all depends on volumes of Exynos Samsung can produce.

The other possibility is (but highly unlikely) that Tegra 2 ordered by Samsung is a bit of a custom design with extra support added for video decoding.

The other side of this coin might be that Tegra 2 will be better than Exynos where rendering of 3d graphics is involved (thats what tests suggest so far).

It is worth to note that artificial tests do not have a lot in common with real life.

Differences between Exynos and Tegra 2 are not that big.

It is unknown if tests were optimized and if so toward which platform.

However if this would be the case choice is:

if you want to watch movies - buy exynos based tablet

if you want to play - buy tegra 2 based device

I am quite certain though that if we will see exynos in samsung tablets it will do great at both tasks (btw: if you read this samsung and would like a nice review here ;-) www.tabletowo.pl - let me know ;-).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chandelure:
The SD will be supported. Motorola and Notion Ink just don't have the software yet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
SD card will not be supported on GT 10.1v because it as no slot :-) sorry for misunderstanding.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Techno79:
But what I don't get is that if Tegra2 doesn't support DivX, how comes the LG Optimus x2 has a Tegra2 chip and it is DivX certified (http://www.divx.com/en/company/press/press-releases/2011-02-15-divx-lg-optimus-certification)?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] htowngator:
I think its certainly possible, but they must have added extra code or something along those lines.
[Droid 2 General] Noodbadin:
Is anyone else having issues finding some of their paid apps in the market after installing the GB update? Be glad to give any other info needed to help with a resolution if someone knows what I might need to do to get them.
[Droid 2 General] gammaxgoblin:
This is a known problem. Search the forums for jrummy market fix in the forums.
[Droid 2 General] Noodbadin:
Gamma, you are awesome. I wouldn't have even considered that was the fix to the problem.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hp79:
I ordered mine for $200 unlocked from Dell, but waiting for it to arrive. Today I got an email saying it's delayed two weeks. I currently own a dumb phone (sony c905a on at&t - great camera fuction), and an ipod touch 4g. I'm not planning on using the phone part of Streak 5 because damn at&t&t will force me the data package. Anyway, my question is, can Streak 5 replace iPod Touch 4g?

Features I love about iPod Touch 4g:

-email (4 imap accounts)

-google calendar through exchange server

-mp4 lecture video playback 640*480

-Useful camera (can take photos of paper scribbles) despite low resolution and lack of autofocus

-720p 30fps video recording

-smooth home screen scrolling

-smooth web surfing zoom in/out in Safari

This might be a general Android question, but does wireless connection work seamlessly like on iPod touch? I always keep wifi on. When I drive home and while parking the car, I hear new email alert from my iPod. It's so convenient.

In the old days, I used couple Compaq iPaqs, three Dell Axims. Finally switched to iPod Touch 2g, and it changed my view of Apple products. I upgraded to iPod Touch 4g last year, and up until now, I really like it. I might even buy iPhone 5 when released this year.

Another question I have is how easy is it to swap out the battery? I know it's swappable, but is the back cover built durable enough to swap out the battery on daily basis?
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oklahemi:
pics are good, video is decent, i know you can have more than one email, i dont know how many. back cover comes off easily but i would be concerned abot the plastic that holds it in place. my biggest problem with replacing my ipod with the streak is the audio out. while the main speaker sounds good the headphone jack is well jack, the sound quality is poor at best. i have yet to hook it up via the usb to my trucks head unit for the real test. i also love how easy itunes is and have yet to find an android program that works that well.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chirunavvutho:
Something isn't right. You don't wan't to pay for data when on Streak but are willing to pay for when you get the iPhone 5?
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgood1971:
Delayed shipment

Out of curiosity, when did you order? I placed an order on 3/25 with a delivery date of 4/13 Seemed like a long wait to me, but I found a thread on dell forums saying that a lot of people have been getting pushed out delivery dates.

I haven't gotten a delayed shipment notice yet, I'm keeping my fingers crossed because I sold my iPhone 4 to buy this thing and am stuck with a loaner until I get the Streak.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hp79:
Sure, I'll pay for $15 data per month if I'm getting a subsidized price from at&t.

I think all the major US communication service providers are crooks, forcing data plan on people with their own unlocked smartphones.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hp79:
There's quite a long thread going on at slickdeals. Search for streak 5 and you'll see this was on front page 3/21/2011. I ordered mine on 3/21/2011. I'm sure it'll take a while until it ships.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chirunavvutho:
But without 3G dataplan these devices aren't as useful anyway. To each his own however..
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hp79:
I have wi-fi access most of the time except while driving. So I don't need or want any data plans. But if I can use Dell Streak for phone calls too, then I would have one less device to carry around.

A lot of those idiotic ATT reps told me that I won't even be able to use wi-fi if I don't have their data plan. Yeah, right. I hope you don't work for ATT, but if you do, I hope you understand where my reasoning is coming from.

I think I'll end up carrying a phone and the Streak, but I don't know yet since I don't have the Streak yet.

If I do end up getting the iPhone5, that would only be if I can still get the $15 per month or lower data plan. I still think extra $15 per month for two years is expensive. I don't need much data usage on the go, and I don't talk much on the phone. I wish some company made a cheap prepaid plan for data usage too. I know there is $30 straight talk, but I wan't something like t-mobile's $100 prepaid that last 1 year or so.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhca50:
How about a voip server and you can use your xoom as a voip client?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B Dizzle:
Running Ubuntu on the Xoom opens the door to plenty of ideas. Dhcp server, webserver or better yet a domain controller. You could demonstrate by adding a laptop to your domain running from the Xoom.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smithseanp16:
these ideas are great thanks i will look into both!
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B Dizzle:
If you really wanted to be evil get the Aircrack-ng package working with the Xoom and demonstrate packet capturing and analysis using a tablet. I think the Xoom uses a broadcom wifi chip so the possibility is there.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smithseanp16:
I would love to do aircrack -ng I looked into it a little already, and the project is unfortunately due at the end of the month :-( so I am looking for something a little smaller scale but hopefully that can be something to start on the side afterwards.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khov07:
This would be SWEET.
[Atrix 4G General] dj13sins:
ATT Moto Atrix (2G :rolleyes:) is now $99 at Amazon Wireless. [now $49.99 at Amazon Wireless]

Edit : [now $99.99 on Costco as well for new customer. Free activation, shipping & accessories] :D

So my question is Can i trust it to work perfectly out of the box ? and go buy online. I see from this forum that there is lot that can go wrong with it.

(I dont wanna go through the online return hassle in case there is a defective or problematic set. Its much easier to exchange it at the store).
[Atrix 4G General] agentdr8:
I bought my atrix from AmazonWireless. They're great support-wise and price-wise.
[Atrix 4G General] dj13sins:
Have you experienced any of the problems like lagging unlock screen, bad mic or voice quality, or poor touchscreen response or any other defects its known for ?

One of the units i tried at store had poor touchscreen response esp. while typing messages while the one my friend has works fine
[Atrix 4G General] agentdr8:
Can't say I've experienced any of those oddities with mine. And while it is a bigger hassle to ship a defective unit back, Amazon will cover postage in both directions if something's wrong with the device.
[Atrix 4G General] josibarns:
I just called Amazon Wireless to get a refund of the price difference :D
[Atrix 4G General] jmastrol:
And will they send you the difference? Bought mine there too, so another $30.00 USD would be a nice surprise.

To OP: Yeah, I'd buy from Amazon Wireless. They give you a good deal and get the phone to you right away. No problems with mine. Had the original build on there and it upgraded to .57 with no problems.
[Atrix 4G General] josibarns:
I bought it through Amazon wireless. I requested an exchange because I found the battery life to be a bit short, no questions asked overnight shipping. FedEx messed up a bit though and by the time i got the new phone the battery life had improved on the old one :confused:

Both phones didn't have any hardware malfunction. Usually people satisfied with their phones don't post online.

I just got an email confirming the refund. The OP said he was making an exception, but I haven't red their policies thoroughly. If you are within the 30 days you should get a refund.
[Atrix 4G General] moktarino:
I can confirm the refund. I just got $20 back as the price dropped from $149 to $129 for an upgrade on a family plan. He didn't say what the time window was (although it was a concern of his), but he did say I would be ineligible for any future refunds due to another price drop.
[Atrix 4G General] dj13sins:
Thanks for the replies guys. Its good to see Amazon standing behind the product. If only ATT was little less anoying :rolleyes: .They are just losing business by pulling out letstalk and wirefly. Hell i could have gotten free activation as well (i am greedy :rolleyes:)
[Atrix 4G General] norm688:
I emailed them and got $20 back :) Thanks!
[Atrix 4G General] MrCooper2012:
So if I upgrade through Amazon Wireless my plan just carries over exactly as-is? I just don't want to order a phone online and then have my data package change from the $30 unlimited iPhone one.
[Atrix 4G General] Blue Puma:
Costco has it for 119, free activation.

Not sure how Amazon handles the plan differences, but make sure you don't loose the unlimited.
[Atrix 4G General] Dr.Jeckyl:
Got my email confirming the $30 refund.

Thanks OP!
[Atrix 4G General] Dudeman Broguy:
How did Costco handle that?

The best prices for the Atrix are online, but I'm skeptical of losing my unlimited data plan if I upgrade through them. If anyone can confirm that Costco allows you to keep your current data plan without "upgrading" to the DataPro 2gb package, I'll be ordering it today.
[Atrix 4G General] moktarino:
It will change, but AT&T will change it back if you call them after you activate the phone. If you've *ever* had unlimited in the past, they will honor that commitment.
[Atrix 4G General] MrCooper2012:
I think this is the case. I had spoken with an AT&T rep yesterday because I would much rather get the Atrix from Amazon Wireless ($99 vs $199 from AT&T). He assured me that I would be able to keep my current $30 unlimited data plan. I also made sure to ask him specifically about transferring to a non-iPhone handset purchased from Amazon, after a minute on hold he came back and told me again I would keep the plan.

I had him notate my account just to be sure though....

-Doogs™
[Atrix 4G General] dj13sins:
Now Costco is also selling it for $99.99 for new customer :D .

not sure about data plans but should be able to keep unlimited. Might as well call or chat before ordering to make sure.
[Atrix 4G General] Dudeman Broguy:
It's worth noting that I just stopped into my local Walmart Supercenter a couple hours ago, ran by the cell phones, and they've dropped their price on the Atrix to $118. Not sure if that's a nationwide change or just my store, but it's worth looking into.

I also talked to the rep about keeping my unlimited plan, and he said it wouldn't be a problem, which clears up any skepticism I had about that if I bought the phone anywhere other than an AT&T retail store. I'm stoked. I'll be going back very soon to pick it up.
[Atrix 4G General] Welshy992:
An att rep told me that they were planning on dropping amazon soon. Sounds quite plausible.
[Atrix 4G General] dj13sins:
Wow can't believe Amazon dropped the price again for atrix in a week ..... Its now $49.99 at Amazon Wireless :D . Too bad for the folks who got $30 refund this week .. I guess its just the buyers remorse with every smartphone these days.
[Atrix 4G General] moktarino:
Only for the new customers, upgrades are still $130.
[Atrix 4G General] G.W.K.:
I bought my atrix 2 weeks ago at cartoys for $199 before $175 mail in rebate - that is just $24 when I get the rebate check
[Atrix 4G General] michellini:
I got mine from Costco. The guy called ATT right there and had my 30 unlimited grandfathered over. Plus return policy is longer with costco
[Atrix 4G General] sl8125:
With the price of Atrix dropping low I would love to upgrade. However what's the deal on the bootloader? Without customizable Rom I am not 100% sold yet. But its super cheap.
[Atrix 4G General] TheRomero09:
Geez this sux for me..I got this when it first came out..payd $279..:(
[Atrix 4G Accessories] gaijinboricua:
Has anyone has a chance to try the lapdock overseas? Do you get any errors? The last I heard, you could use it in the U.S. with the tether hack and no tethering plan, but you get a message indicating that it is needed. Any messages if using it outside the U.S. with a different carrier?
[Atrix 4G Accessories] bl0wf1sh:
Interested in that one too. I am still waiting for the price to drop to reasonable levels before I order though. It recently was at Amazon for $399 for like a day, but back up to almost $430. I think if it falls below $350 somewhere I'm gonna order it and try (if it is not tried by then).
[Atrix 4G Accessories] EaSi123:
works fine in europe

Works fine when you unlock it from ATT.

Tethering by default doesn't work (t-mobile NL). But after changing the database entry on the phone (adding tether to t-mobile) it works fine, even after 1.57 update! (you have root your phone and install/buy 2 programs)

Using it for a couple of weeks now, webtop is very nice to work from (citrix receiver works really nice), battery usage is not bad when using tethering (only works when connection is 3G or higher) for a laptop. Hoping for a european ROM with the right language packs soon!
[Atrix 4G Accessories] outofoffice:
Tested and working fine with laptop dock in Australia. Unlocked with a purchased code and using on Optus network, no issues at all on 3G or wifi. Haven't got tethering going yet because I haven't got root (on 1.57)
[Atrix 4G Accessories] gigafast:
I have one on business trip in Taiwan and it works great!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reptile64:
I have a weird problem, every time I sync my contacts with Gmail it makes my contact's numbers look like 698-111-1111 and it's really annoying!! WTF is going on there? From the other, if the contact is with the international prefix eg +306911111111 it keeps it that way and it doesn't change it!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reptile64:
come ooon!! no one have a solution???
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] G-FACE:
I's a fact. Google put - in the numbers. But, if you go to gmail (from the computer), edit every contact and remove the dashes, you will have from now on your contacts synced without dashes.