yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] madcoil:
sooo close

ok I think I see the finish line, but I can't find the fota file. It said it was sent to mnt/sdcard, but I have no idea where it is on the phone. I tried using file expert and supermanager (based on previous response in this thread), but I still can't find it. Help :)

Let me be more specific. I hit preview in my email which was my option on the zip file. I found that it saved it to my mnt/sdcard but both delta files show 0.00 kb. I didn't think preview would unzip the fota file automatically, but if it did it shows no data in the file and I can't select it. I am under the mnt/sdcard area though.

UPDATE: I have found them but it is denying access to select the two delta files. Access denied please CHMOD first is the message I get. Hmm actually the two files are already in the data/fota files which according to the instructions is where they are suppose to be, but I didn't copy and paste anything.

If they are there am I all set. Also do I disable Root Function in Super manager once I'm done or leave it checked.

It didn't free any internal memory for me so I'm not doing something right.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] MarkP80nj:
Do you see anything that says r/o or r/w?

You should be in r/w.

I'm used to root manager, so I don't know exactly how it works on what you're using.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rickballs:
Wow, you removed talk. I got a bunch of fc's when I removed it
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] MarkP80nj:
Those are the ones you need to replace with the ones you got with 0 kbs.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] madcoil:
hmm

Ok so there are two delta files under the mnt/sdcard area (those are 0 kbs). Then I have two more delta files that are under data/fota which are both 125.00 mb. The second two are the ones that give me the chmod code error. The zero kb delta files don't give me an error but won't let me select them.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
The fota files should be 0.00 kb so that should be fine.

Now you need to make sure that you are in /data/fota and not in /mnt/data/fota now you need to copy or cut the fota files and navigate to /data/fota in super manager make sure the "enable ROOT function" and then paste the files.

Sent from SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] madcoil:
Done

Thanks for all the help. Finally figure out what I was doing wrong. I now have 346 mb available. I don't understand exactly what that means to the firmware on the phone. What negatives if any will this cause me if I fill up my mb with other things? Don't u like how I ask the question AFTER I do it. I'm not the brightest bulb in the box. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
I will have to update that on my guide forgot to mention that r/w should be enabled.

Ok, so going back a little. You should have 4 fota files two of 125mb and two 0.00. The bigger ones are the originals and the smaller ones are the hack.

Now you should copy the 0.00 kb files go to super manager press menu on your phone switch to r/w

and navigate to /data/fota paste files there.

Sent from SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] MarkP80nj:
You won't be able to update over the air.

But I doubt there will be an official update anytime soon.

And it will probably be posted here if there is one.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] madcoil:
Working like described

When you say r/w what are you referring too? Also should I leave enable root function enabled on Super Manager now that it is working correctly?

Now I have to figure if removing bloatware is worth the risk. I probably don't have to, but it would be nice to get rid of a couple of the items you listed. Also now that Market is not my only resource for apps, do you have a safe alternative site to get apps?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
Yes you can leave the root option enabled in super manager. Safest place is market I wouldn't recommend any other place to download apps. amazon has an app store now so that would be a safe place to download apps. There is also developer sites where I wouldn't mind downloading files from. As of r/w, it stands for read and write.

Sent from SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikesbaker:
Rapid**** links are dead.

Can I get a new link for blaot.zip please?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] kevinsmith13579:
worked great have over 300Mb of free space now
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] corys00:
+1 I need the Desk home apk
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
Yes, I will be uploading it again today for you guys.

Sent from SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Light-Zone:
WOW

awesome. Thanks for such a clearly explained method of gaining memory! 399mb!:D

BTW, when rooting I did NOT use rageinthecage but rather the top selection, although the name eludes me at the moment. Rooting went off smoothly on my T-Mobile Galaxy S 4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
you guys can download it from my drop box, here is the link:

http://db.tt/RFzd364

Updated in original post too

Let me know if it worked

Sent from SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
No problem.

Sent from SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] appan:
hi,

i downloaded and did all the steps, i use titanium backup to uninstall all the apps, but after installing and reebooting i still dont gain any memory, it shows up at 165 and even with a restart it shows same, is there somthing i am doing wrong? plz let me know.

also one more thing, onces you remove any apps using titanium backup, even if i do a factory reset none will be back on the system?

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] yentlequible:
This is exactly what is happening to me. Did anyone find a fix? I should be doing everything correctly. Open program, check "rageagainstthecage", connect phone, and hit root. But I still get the same thing where it sits there. I have tried multiple times and even left it sitting there for over an hour the first time.

Going to restart my computer and see if that helps, but any other suggestions?

(I now realize that I have never had a single electronic device without a problem like this. Its kind of ridiculous actually. Don't even get me started on the problems I had with my Captivate...)

EDIT: I Found out that Microsoft Security Essentials was automatically deleting the rageagainstthecage file after extracting it. This allowed it to be found in the program, but unfortunately, it still gets stuck at the same spot.... Why do I always have problems...

To clear up questions on anything:

-I have windows 7 32bit

-Installed the samsung drivers. (from a different site because the links here are not working)

-tried restarting computer

-tried connecting phone before opening program

-tried running program in administrator mode

-phone has USB debugging enabled and I am connecting without mounting
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
Try disabling the anti-virus, firewall, spyware, etc.

Do you have the samsung drivers installed in your computer?

Sent from SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
Sounds like the fota files where not copied correctly to /data/fota.

Make sure that super manager is r/w and the root option is enabled in super manager.

Sent from SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] yentlequible:
Yes, MSE was deleting a file automatically. But for some reason, the problem is still there. I have the drivers, but had to download them from a different site as the links here are no longer working.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
I would try restoring the system, seems after MSE delete those files something gets changed in the registry.

Try restoring your pc to a day before you installed drivers, Disable MSE, unzip super one click, install samsung drivers and it should work.

Sent from SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] yentlequible:
unfortunately I don't have a restore point before this.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
Try cleaning the registry with ccleaner. I doubt that would work but you can try it.

Sent from SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] yentlequible:
Ill give it a shot. I guess if all else fails, I have a couple other computer that I can try it on.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] C0dy:
Great guide, got my new phone rooted now. One odd thing that happened was that MSE detected rageagainstthecage as a threat to my computer. Other than that, it worked fine.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
I think that if you download ADB that will install some drivers and that should let you root the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GTRACER88:
Nice!! Thanks a zillion!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] deckard67:
Success...

I have had this phone for about a month and was very happy with the phone, with the exception that I was quickly running out of space for apps. I Rooted (so much easier than when I rooted the MyTouch 3G) and then followed the instructions and replaced the FOTA files with the empty ones and BAM...went from 55 mb to 320 mb. Wonderful. I will probably just leave the bloatware alone...its annoying, but if I have to unroot to return the phone, I have less to worry about.

I am unclear on one thing. Say an OTA update comes out in a few months, and I unroot my phone and then factory reset the device. Will the old FOTA files be put back into place? Will i have to download the old FOTA files and reinsert them into their proper place? Does anyone have copies of the big ones so i can store them somewhere, since I did not make copies of them? (probably should have)? Does replacing the FOTA files completely disable any OTA update?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
don't need to factory reset the phone to get rid of those. In fact, it will not do anything. You only need to delete the fota files from /data/fota and then reboot phone and original files will auto populate
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rogerperk:
IF I root, what is the advantage beyond being able to remove the bloatwear. Other than not having alot of memory on the phone I like the overall setup. I don't want to change that. Can I root, delete the bloatwear, and go back to a stock phone with no damage done?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
The advantage is if you are a dev you can change stuff around.

If you are not a dev and only want to delete bloatware and do the fota fix then you can root and then unroot after you finish by opening SuperOneClick, select "Rageinthecage" and click Unroot.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rickyy00:
What do the fota files do?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Harhar321:
As far as I can tell the fota files are just placeholders for if and when Samsung does over the air updates for our phone. Even if you use the 'fix' files to free up that space you can simply delete those and the original fota files will automatically reappear when you reboot the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jeffsf:
Assuming you have enough space available. If you want to receive FOTA (which I think is pretty unlikely if you're going to flash your phone yourself), you might need to move/uninstall enough off your internal memory to provide space for the regenerated file(s).
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rickyy00:
But theres no schedueled update anytime soon right?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] deckard67:
If and when the OTA comes, I plan on just waiting to see if i can after doing the OTA, I will be able to re-root and delete the FOTA files, if they will be there again. If so, my plan is to unroot, delete the fota files and then factory reset, so I will have enough room for the update.

easy peasy
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Knumb:
Unassigned file limit of 10 downloads reached.

another mirror for the x86 drivers please....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bluevmax92:
drivers needed

win 7 64 bit drivers needed for my laptop... anyone else have these files? max 10 download exceeded message received....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bluevmax92:
this would be great and i would love to uninstall most of these apps you have uninstalled however titanium backup is forceclosing on me... any ideas anyone?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] poopypoo13:
Best thing to do is reinstall TB, hope that helps.

If not, then you should double check your root or invest in TB pro
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
Try rebooting the phone as well
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] JDM Civic EG8:
http://drivers.softpedia.com/progDo...SB-Driver-for-Windows-x64-Download-96693.html

Thats where I got the drivers since I was getting the same message as you. I'm rooting my cousins Galaxy S haha.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bluevmax92:
unexepected results,..... ?

ok phone is rooted, however it gave me unforseen and unmentioned circumstances.. let me explain: 1. the launcher i use is go launcher. i hate the samsung touchwiz crap. Go launcher now no longer works. i cant add program icons to the desktop... i cant even access the preferences page and change any settings so i had to uninstall. tried adw launcher and it sucks/doesnt function correctly. the dock disappeared and wont come back... had to uninstall. switched to launcher pro. phone is now acting like a phone however now i have to learn the ins/outs of a new launcher. it sucks but it'll work for now till i figure out how to get go launcher back...

i have tried numerous reboots with no sucess.

2. other programs are on the fritz. radar now! is in a constant loop and will not load the radar page. also the phone has no ability to remove bloatware. downloaded titanium backup root and it will NOT allow me to remove GOGO, which was expired right out of the box. (i chose this program just to try and remove just one) i couldnt remove it because TB said i needed root access... HUH!! i thought i already did that... (scratching my head) anyone got any pointers? also i did gain memory space inside the phone but if i perform a factory reset, do i use that extra space i just gained? i'm pretty familiar with the windows side of flashing and such but the android "jvk jcb kck" whatever lingo is greek to me so i got some catching up to do since i went totally android from my old HTC HD2... any tips and pointers are greatly appreciated...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] moshe22:
Yes few things you can try,

first, download root checker from the market and check if you are properly rooted. You should also have super user in the app drawer.

If you are rooted then factory reset the phone. it will still be rooted.

Let google sync add all of your apps and then again.

Let me know if it works
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bluevmax92:
performing now... ill update the results soon...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bluevmax92:
thanks. success!!! long road back to original downloading all my apps but im on my way!!! thanks again...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bluevmax92:
In the process of the factory reset to regain the go launcher function and fix other erroneous things that went wrong, I lost all the free space.. had to drop the fota files in that folder again.... yet another unexpected result
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Knumb:
Thanks! Are there the x86 drivers on that link too?

Disregard....I changed the x64 to x86 in the search on that site and got them! Thanks again..
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] EnterYourName:
Couldn't get it work

I installed the driver, enable USB debugging, ran the SuperOneClick, this is what i get
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] george241312:
This happened to me while using adb i wanted to cd to the system folder.... i did adb devices and it showed two exact models then i used a new version of adb which worked try updating the android sdk...,.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] EnterYourName:
I had try that but is not working either
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] himmelhauk:
Thanks a heap! Just did the fota bit, and my free space went from about 140mb to 416mb :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] badboy68:
its even easier w/ root explorer, thanx
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] thrashingdeth:
did it with root explorer super fast and easy, thanks dood
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] VolcomPR:
thanks bro... 353MB free
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] nystatus23:
Foto files worked

Foto files worked perfect for me awsome job used to have like 180.00mb free now i have 406.27mb free out of 514.35
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
Try it again with psneuter.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] DavidDivadman:
Hi,

I have a SGH-T959V and I would like to try the "Fota" trick to gain some internal memory. If I apply it, can the phone be revert to original state (I mean like nothing was done). I'm asking this because this is my third "S 4G" in 1 month. The first one I returned it after 6 days due to a stuck green pixel (Said was freezing at time @ T-Mobile :D), the 2nd one, was working great, but after 20 days, it was not taking the charge. I have this one for 2 days now, and if I have to exchange it again, in case of this one get bad also, I want to be able to restore the phone like nothing was done on it... LOL

Thanks for the time you spent reading, and for your response...

PS: Try to search for this on the forum, but did not find somebody asking for this...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Harhar321:
If you remove the 'fix' files and there is enough room on your internal memory (around 250 meg or so) those files will automatically regenerate after a reboot.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] DavidDivadman:
Ok, got it, so I can use this "Fota" trick, this is great. Thanks for the prompt reply :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] EnterYourName:
Hi, it works with psneuter.

Now the superuser icon had appeared but when I verify with RootChecker, it stated that my device was not yet rooted, but busybox was installed properly when I verify it.

The message came out was

"Root access is not properly configured or was not granted.

Alternate su binary location:

/sbin/su:Permission denied

SU binary not found in the system declared PATH"

I couldn't get the root access thru Titanium Backup too.

Any difference using psneuter from rageagainstthecage?

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
My recommendation for you is to factory wipe your device then root phone again. It would be easier for you to start with a fresh ROM, versus troubleshooting for hours if any other issues arise. Use backup programs if can, sms backup/restore works great for txt/mms. as far as apps, if you cant get Titanium to work, i would note which apps you have. I know its a pain, but I went through this process about 5 times already, and i must say since I started from scratch all over again my phone is snappy and very responsive with all the mods included.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] EnterYourName:
I able to root my phone. I didn't realized I need to restart my phone.

Now, i follow those steps until the fota.

I couldn't find any folder for /data/fota. I created the fota folder myself in /data, and paste the 2 unzip files in it, and restart phone, but nothing happen? My free RAM is around 220MB but it was the same before I did this.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] badboy68:
easier way to do this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1065018
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
the data folder is on the root it, once your at the root it goes data/fota. Try using supermanager to push it. It worked great for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jaacosta06:
Thanks alot...315MB free Memory
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] likeitnot:
I just received my SGS4G yesterday and I am already sick of seeing all these ridiculous add-on apps so I want to freeze them using Titanium. I, for one, am satisfied (right now) with the stock rom so my question is this: If I just want to root, I just do it the way stated here, and then I can add titanium to my phone and freeze apps and everything should be okay right? I also need to install a backup which Im assuming is recovery.

THanks. I just want to make sure I do things right and not hurt the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
Yes you are correct.. just be careful of which apps you freeze/delete.. they may be needed to prevent force closes. There is a thread about which bloat is safe to delete. You can a backup of your apps in titanium or install cwm as per these threads.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] likeitnot:
Thanks! I appreciate the quick response.

And yes, I am always weary of deleting apps, so I choose to just freeze them just in case something should occur.

As for making a backup using Titanium, as long as I've known about it I had no idea I could do that (#hangsheadinshame) so thank you. I take it then cwm is not needed if I do it this way then correct?

Once again, thanks. I hate to ask so many questions but I am just making sure I am understanding things the way they are meant to be understood.

:D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
Youre going to need cwm when you (eventually) flash any themes, kernels, and roms.. that will enablr you to do a full back up of the entire system, apps, settings etc as well..

No problem :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] robertneusch:
i did everything you said but I have a ? Am i supposed to delete the 2 file before i cut and paste them because when I pasted them nothing happened after I rebooted. Also after I enabled root access I couldn,t go to the r/w screen.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
are you using root explorer? if so i would recommend using super manager,

sometimes root explorer can be a pain in the A

and no you dont have to delete the previous fota files just copy over them and you dont even have to reboot after words just delete the fota then reboot :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] robertneusch:
Thanks for the help. I had copied it into the foto file but it sat on top. I found it and copy and pasted both files to the stock files and it worked like a charm. My memory jumed up to 312. Thanks again. I use super manager. I also didn't have to reboot either
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] cat2115:
hi OP,

Could you please update SuperOneClick to v1.9.5 or doesn't matter b/t 1.7 and latest version? Also, in your guide you put as "setup" then check enable root function. I was actually looking for "setup" in the super manager. Maybe typo and you meant to type "Setting".

But anyway, my sister GS4G is rooted and had confirmed with rootchecker. In the SuperOneClick, there a "Get unlock code", if i were to click on that, will this make my sister GS4G unlock and can use with any provider?

Next, do i install Kernel first in order to install ROM? Or i can just skip kernel and just flash ROM?

Thanks

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] matthenry87:
I made a one click fota fix app to make it much easier to fota fix. See link in my signature or search fota fix on the android market.