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[HTC EVO 3D] Zorachus:
I like the thin and lightweight form.factor of the S II, but not TouchJizz, much prefer Sense on my Android.

The perfect phone would be the Galaxy S II running Sense 3.0 stable ROM. Someone please make this happen, I will donate big time for that.

Sent from my EVO 4G "Myn's RS 5"
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
holiday

http://gadgetian.com/15348/htc-holiday-att-leaked-specs/

hmm att no go
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
what do you think of lg 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
saw this post in the sgsII forum had to share lol
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
LOL

What about Games Index? There has been some preliminary benchmark results circulating on the internet on the S2 and they have not been very impressive for Samsung's latest GPU -Mail 400. It is no different here. At least their latest variation "SHW-M250S" shows some promise, getting closer to Tegra 2, but it is still behind even their own Hummingbird's PowerSGX540! Could Samsung have been mislead to believe that ARM's GPU solution is more competitive than it is in reality?
[HTC EVO 3D] Samzebian:
lmao good one
[HTC EVO 3D] regulator207:
Looks like it the SGSII will be called the Sprint Within according to what's been discovered.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/...es-verizon-function-att-attain-sprint-within/
[HTC EVO 3D] dbpaddler:
I owned both 1st gen phones since launch day (evo and epic). Love the perception that plastic is cheap and metal is expensive when the epic is a more torsionally rigid design than the evo. After a few drops the epic was also in better condition than the evo. I'll also take the lighter weight in my pockect, better rounded design for the nice in hand feel.Gingerbread for the Epic is also around the corner, currently on build EE19 in testing. The whole sense vs touchwiz is crap. They both suck in their own respects. It's great to have a preference, but I ditched both pretty much using none of what either had to offer. 3rd party alternatives are generally better. Hell, neither mfg's email solution utilizes push. Then again, stock still sucks with no push even in 3.x. But I'm used to stock android sucking as a smartphone in general.

Those stuck on resolution have no clue that resolution falls behind other factors that determine picture quality. It is far from the end all. And both technologies are tradeoffs, but samoled+ along with ability to tweak picture settings is a big plus. Don't know why we can't universally tweak screens like we can on tv's at this stage.

3d is a joke for geeks and dweebs to show off to one another. Look how cool my phone is. BFD. Overall percentage of use to everything else you do (once the novelty wears off) will be less than 10%, possibly 5%. The masses most likely won't care either. It's just the next premium 4+"slate, nothing more.

Personally, I'm getting neither. Never understood the point of having these nice 4+" screens when the keyboard takes up 2/3 of it while type. Completely unproductive for those that utilize DTG on a regular basis, editing text, writing lengthy emails and often referencing source text when emailing and texting. Cut, copy and paste is just so much easier with cursor keys. Shame the only htc slider worth its salt is running wp7. Thin it out, enlarge the screen andput android on it, and I'd consider it. And if there is no SGS2 slider, I'll be sticking with my Epic for another year.
[HTC EVO 3D] JakedGr8:
Okay so how could that be a serious competitor? It comes out soon after, and all it has is a "better" camera that's not 3D (not saying 3D is better, but It's still not 3D), has 2.3.4 which won't matter I'm sure Icecream sandwich will find it's way to evo 3d eventually. And .2" more on the screen. Is the processor better, did I miss something?

QUICK QUESTION: When do you all think that the Galaxy S II will come out on Sprint (idk if I can wait that long!) ?

~ Jake

PS. This just makes me more and more worried as to how sprint needs to get this phone out NOW.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Probably not until august it September.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Interesting. My wife has an epic and I have an evo. After the first and only time she dropped the phone became very loose feeling. Hard to describe really. It makes sense that a phone with fewer moving parts may hold up a little better to blunt force, this has been my experience anyway.

The screen on the iPhone is amazing and I believe it uses an slcd much like what will be present in the new evo. Resolution may not be everything but damn if it didn't do wonders on the iPhone.

My biggest issue with Samsung is Samsung. The last two phones my wife has owned that were Samsung have been ****ty. Namely the moment and now the epic. I know people have hardware problems no mafter why the brand so I'll ignore that, but the software

and radio issues on these last two devices has been more of a headache than its worth.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] dbpaddler:
Because 3d is a gimmick and hardly a dealbreaker feature unless you're a gamer and 3d games take off. And .3" got tossed around seriously for the epic and evo. Why should this be any different?
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Gimmick or not it will be cool. Nobody will be forced to use 3d if they don't want to. Whats the harm of having this added feature? I guess I just don't understand this anti 3d crusade... since when have we been anti technology?

The only thing that will be definitively better on the sgs2 is the 30fps 1080p recording and better screen though with a lower resolution.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] dbpaddler:
The guy didn't understand how it was a competitor, dismissed the screen and just noted the lack of 3d. My only point is it's not a deal breaker feature and that most people will find it to be a gimmick they'll play with to show off, but unless you're a big gamer you won't have much need for it. The Holiday is a competitor plain and simple, that's the point. I'm not on some anti 3d crusade, I just don't see the big deal about it like it's the next best feature since sliced bread, and it won't have an influence on my decision making for my next phone.

And your previous post, we'll all have good and bad experiences with different hardware be it a slate or a slider. The Evo was the first one I saw a lot of attention given to spontaneous screen cracking or if not spontaneous, very little pressure in a specific spot. And of course more moving parts, the more something can go wrong. But it's not the phone's fault your wife dropped it unless it grew teeth and bit her why she held it. :) Accidental damage is accidental damage. The point to my post is just because it's plastic doesn't mean it's cheap, and many appreciate the lighter weight. Now, could it have aesthetically looked higher quality? Sure. I like matte finishes and would've taken the back cover finish over the entire phone.

And I'll give you the radio situation on the epic, but it's gotten quite a bit better with Froyo, and so far it seems like it's getting better with gingerbread too. And gingerbread should be a reality within a month at the rate they're moving through builds (latest one is from the 19th, just over two weeks from the last known build). Between the work on GB and the whole hopping on board with the 'timely' updates agreement with google, I have a little more confidence in Samsung than I did 6 months. Like it was the final "crap, we can't get away with this any longer" moment, and they got with the program.

And just pray the SG2 doesn't make it here in Tegra2 form or the hopes of 1080 will be far from better. Not sure about encoding, but decoding it, it blows. How it's the chipset of choice is beyond me right now.
[HTC EVO 3D] mevensen:
4G?

FWIW, I, too, am looking at the E3D vs the SGS2. Things look pretty close, overall. I do wonder about the comparative dev communities that will develop around them. Will the SGS2 suffer from "fragmentation" -- GSM vs CDMA, different carriers, etc.?

Also, there is no hint, as far as I have seen, whether the SGS2 will come out with 4G technology on any carrier, much less Sprint. This, to me, would be a pretty big deal. That is hardware that you cannot just slip in (unless you're the Motoral Xoom, I guess).

As we move forward with more 4G availability, a flagship phone without fast data will be at a disadvatage in many ways.
[HTC EVO 3D] Andy0682:
samsung sucks the fat one with updates
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
E3d signed boot, recovery and partitions with a 256bit key not good at all reminds me of the sensation , Droid x :(

virus kingdom port b112
[HTC EVO 3D] almaalma74:
Currently I have SGS I9000.

1. 10millions SGS I were sold => in August 2010 this was the best phone till early 2011

2. SGS I has big community

3. Nobody will sell 10m phones again, SGS II wont have so big community as SGS I's

4. Custom ROM's, c'mon, the biggest time waster, I tried 12 custom ROMs, 10 were worser than stock ROM (and I don't talk the wipe, not wipe, reinstall all apps, re-set the apps, bug, reflash... I'm fed up)

5. well, SGS 2 is not SGS 1, wont be so much custom rom for it, I'm pretty sure

6. 3D is very funny, check it on Nintendo 3Ds, 3D pictures are awesome

7. why do I have to root my device? only it has LAAAAAAAG; I don't care sputty's, mickie's, punny's, cyan's and other crap custom ROMs (just see the forums: dont work the frontface camera, reboot 5s a day, app drawer crashes - help, help) - if you are student and u like to flash new roms w/ new bugs then buy SGS 2, if ur time is not so cheap but u like the 3d, then buy HTC

I guess
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
If you're having all those problems you don't know what you're doing and shouldn't be rooting your phone in the first place. I've been rooted since the day it became available on the Evo and never had those problems.
[HTC EVO 3D] dbpaddler:
Yeah, that gingerbread update that's around the corner really blows...
[HTC EVO 3D] scotbot:
well. I wanted the EVO 3D, But due to recent events I will be getting my first samsung phone, The GSII. My friend has the Epic and I hate the keyboard and Plastic cheap feel. But I think as long as the GSII does not have a keyboard it will be alright.

I will keep using my EVO 4G till then.
[HTC EVO 3D] dkotoric:
I think I speak for all of us when I say its obvious that you have absolutely no clue about anything you are talking about.

Try a Evo 4G with stock rom and then flash CM7 on it and let me know whats faster.

Oooh and hows that stock gingerbread on your Evo.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Funny you say this. CM7 may be marginally faster than stock sense in a FEW tasks buy stock sense is so much more stable and fluid. I used cm6&7 for a long time but have since went back to stock. My faith in HTCs stock roms high and thus I am I'm with getting a 3d with a locked bootloader. This doesn't suggest that I am happy about the situation, but the 3d is going to be insane nonetheless.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] stimpyshaun:
dude.... y r u even on xda... it sounds like this is not the place for u
[HTC EVO 3D] Tornadobarrage:
has anyone seen video test on gs2 and evo 3d in low light? i would like to know if the 3vo 3d 's mic has improved.
[HTC EVO 3D] Officerpolabear:
Sorry bud, but all ROMs are gonna be faster than stock. Except for a handful of leaks (i.e. Samsung Epic's EE03 LEAKED build; a little laggy in scrolling)
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
I agree. CM7 is WAY faster than any sense ROM I have ever tried. Flashing different ROM's is what is keeping my EVO new and fresh after a year. I would be so bored if I got stuck on the same sense ROM for one whole year...

SGS2 here I come. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
This is absolutely bull****. The only thing I noticed that CM does faster than stock is populating my app list in both the application manager and titanium backup. For my REAL WORLD uses, there is negligible difference. You can believe what you want, but I've been flashing ROMs on the EVO since July and know the truth. Im inclined to think that these multi-million dollar developing giants have an idea what their doing when it comes to building a ROM. Thus, like I said, I will be just fine with a soft rooted stock ROM on my new EVO 3D next month.
[HTC EVO 3D] Nsandhu23:
That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm being called a troll on the other thread for having an opposite opinion for once.

From my Gingerbread Hero.
[HTC EVO 3D] JasonK75:
Say what now?? I don't even know what to say to this?

Yeah, the EVO 4G has been out a year and is still on FroYo and I've been enjoying GB for months now. Plus, MIUI is an amazing ROM!!
[HTC EVO 3D] mickdubs:
that guy is a idiot.. gingerbread runs flawless on my hero and sprint will never realease it for that phone. The point is cyanogen keeps r phones more up to date than are carriers ever will. THats why we need a unlocked bootloader
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
Exactly. HTC doesn't want us to have the latest software so we can spend more money on their new phones. That's why we need to keep this crusade going in hopes they come to term.
[HTC EVO 3D] ktynchy1:
Exactly, they want you to have what they give you and buy they're next best thing. Rooting and flashing kept my "htc hero" alive for about 2 years.
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
The thing that HTC doesn't realize is the people that hold on to their device longer than usually because of rooting won't go out and by a locked HTC phone the next time around so they won't get any future business from that customer anyway.

That person who used their Hero for longer then it's expected life span and enjoyed every minute of it will obviosly go to another device that can be unlocked knowing they will be able to enjoy that phone and it won't be irrelevant in 6 months.
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
Really thinking of getting SG2 from Expansys and running it month to month on AT&T. Things rooted....and flies...faster than T-Bolt. Yeah....will pay extra $25/mo. Don't use data such that caps will effect me.

Things got a charging issue tho....hmmm
[HTC EVO 3D] srb7215:
The problem with this theory is that the people who root their phones are probably more likely to go buy the next best thing. Most people I know, buy a phone and keep it for a couple years and then they might buy a new one. Probably depends on what they are needing and how the phone has held up. But the dev community form my experience is one of the first to jump ship. I got the Hero one release day and it had a lot of support. Then the EVO came out like 8 months later and a lot of people jumped to that phone. There hasn't been a good phone since then but I would imagine a lot of people would have jumped if there had been.

As for the 3D being a gimmick, it is right now but it also holds a lot of potential. Who knows where some of the app devs out there will go with this technology. Maybe no where or maybe they will put it to some good use. Not something I would dismiss just yet.
[HTC EVO 3D] stimpyshaun:
ya HTC is sooo good that they cap the graphics at 30 fps. thanks to xda and CUSTOM kernals it was uncapped. there r reasons people like custom firmware... that's why xda exists if u don't want to use custom roms. than I don't understand why u come to xda in the first place

so much drama :)
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
EXACTLY! the lack of logical thinking on this site is truly astonishing.

Tapa tapa tapa
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] x4-FAo:
Since I couldn't get my wife a nexus s with the upgrade. I decided to go with the vibrant 4g.

She got it on Friday via ups.

My questions is should I return the vibrant 4g and get the G2x since I can still return the phone
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] JupiterDroid:
YES!

JD;)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Bronk93:
I'm also interested in the g2x. I work in the wireless industry and I got a chance to play with it and its amazing. Only issue is.....what's the resale value of the ns.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] nraudigy2:
G2X no doubt. It has everything I've been looking for in a phone. Vanilla Android for faster update, nVidia Tegra 2 for exclusive games, HDMI mirroring and a good camera with flash.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] zephiK:
G2 was said to be "stock" Android but it was nothing like stock. It looks like stock, but it's not 100% stock.

But have fun.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dario3040:
I think you should wait for Galaxy S 2.

The G2x is simply not worth it, its so bugged :S

I'll never touch that thing again...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Success100:
and no s-amoled!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Yogi3:
We already have a topic regarding this issue... and we talked about I would say very extensively... And that guy never did answer my question if he did own the SGS4G or not to talk all that crap...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] x4-FAo:
Actually this question was moved from the Nexus s forum to vibrant 4g forum.

I have the Nexus s and my wife has a less then a week old vibrant 4g.!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] nrfitchett4:
I'm going to give the s 4g a shot. Its coming free afterall. I think the g2x won't be free for a while.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] alsworld:
im in the same boat i got a replacement because my vibrant3g was stolen so they sent me a 4g i kicked and screamed and they re sent me a regulare vibrant i have a few days to return and keep either one im at a loss i dont know what to do anyone out there in the same experience as mee with so suggestions would be greatly appreciated
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] danstheman7:
I'd go with the G2X. Reviews are insanely good for it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] tsheeley:
I got the G2x... my wife got the new Samsung 4G... both are so awesome!

The 2Gx is faster since it has the dual cores... but either way, you'll love it. Go for the G2x tho if you're a gamer.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] DjIsD:
I just got the G2X and love it, I have the Vibrant T959 and then the Galaxy S 4G T959V (too many variance in names for the Galaxy S, Vibrant - sure you know can understand). Anyways not even rooted yest the G2X is an awesome phone! If I didn't get that I would have seriously gotten the 1st Vibrant T-Mobile came out with but not being 4G would have sucked but for the moment I would have been pleased.

Hope I didn't make anyone mad or offend anyone either. As you can see I did keep the T959V (4G) just to try to see if I could learn on how to improve it and help add to the positive and not negative. Hope that counts for something when reading this.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] DjIsD:
Then you should totally go with the G2X. I was disappointed with not having the internal extra memory and capabilities that go along with that and in fact was going to return the 4g but kept it and then got the G2X on Saturday, haven't even rooted it yet or really played on it and love it!

It's fun to because it is a totally different setup being LG and the 4g is to a naked eye JUST LIKE the Vibrant 3g without the space and internal memory features.

Post what you decided on and let me know what you think. You can always get the 4g to be sure and then return it. You will know the day you get it if you want it or not coming for the T959. Let me know what you do, I'm curious if it was just me or anyone else who did the same (thinking it was an upgrade) and was really disappointed with it. I didn't plan on buying it, just a impulse purchase I am so bad with those.

Do not regret for a moment the 2nd impulse purchase for a phone I don't even really need which was the G2X, that phone is awesome and there is a lot already out there for it (including flashing CWM). Good luck.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrewS85:
Is it possible to cold boot into recovery? I used to be able to do it on my G2.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BotsOne:
Just boot into the bootloader (power on + volume up) and then choose recovery from the menu.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] capflya:
Make sure to release the buttons right as the screen turns on... Takes a little timing but it works.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrewS85:
Thank you. :)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jyabor91:
When ever i do this, i choose the bootloader option. then it takes me to the menu where i can choose the recovery option but before i get the chance to hit anything, it just starts to update. what should i do from here?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jyabor91:
i then deleted pg05IMG.zip. i got to get to the point to hit recovery but when i do that it just boots right back into the bootloader it wont start up the recovery and it wont factory reset it. am i screwed?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jyabor91:
sorry for the triple port. it says i have s-on. how would i turn s-off
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patdroid1:
are you rooted??? you need to root to get s-off
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jyabor91:
i am rooted but for some reason it says s-on right now and i dont have adb on this computer. how would i be able to turn s-off?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patdroid1:
what method of root did you use? i used the "unlocked bootloader + permaroot" method by jcase and have never lost root or s-off.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=996616
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patdroid1:
did you leave the PG051IMG file on your sd card? if so your phone will look for it and try to update.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jyabor91:
I used the easy root with no adb. i flashed a new rom and it froze at the startup screen. so i booted into the bootloader to get into the recovery but it wouldnt let me. it said updating so i let it update and it said "update failed. version to old. reboot device". i then deleted the file PG05IMG.zip so it would let me boot into recovery. but then it now says s-on andd it wont let me turn my phone besides booting into the bootloader. even the splash screen wont show up. it also won let me factory reset its just stuck in the bootloader. how should i precede here? is my phone bricked?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jyabor91:
i did leave it on but after i realized it and took it off i had already let it try to update and it now says "mecha xd ship s-on"
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patdroid1:
yeah i've heard of problems using the easy root methods...seriously doubt phone is bricked...i think you can just put the stock PG051IMG on the root of your sd and flash in bootloader and you'll be back to stock. if you go to the andirc help channel someone there should be able to walk you thru it...there is a link in the op of the thread i gave you link to in earlier post.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jyabor91:
ok thanks for all of your help
[G Tablet General] vincentfkc:
I am going to return mine soon too, even at 299.99 , lack support = nth
[G Tablet General] neo4uo:
Op why did you post this in the dev section :(
[G Tablet General] absorbers:
roebeet

+1 from Russia
[G Tablet General] JimmyAviles:
This is an IMPORTANT post!! I think it should be voted to the front page. Viewsonic and for that matter all suppliers should have a commitment to their users/buyers. Our $$$$ is what support them and they should respect the user community. If they want to be selling more they should make what they have work!!!!

Please vote the post to first page, have them take note and take us seriously.

Thank you roebeet!!
[G Tablet General] tenet420:
roebeet

+1