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[Android Apps and Games] ogami_ito:
HI all,

I'm wondering if anyone has opinion about which is better: Skype, Fring, or Nimbuz.

Here is my take on it.

About "Voice-Out" and quality of voice communication

I cannot really comment on Voice Out (phone > internet > regular phone) because I only used Skype Out and have never used the corresponding services with Fring and Nimbuz. Skype OUt is OK on the phone

I'm not sure about the quality of voice using Google Talk, Yahoo, MSN, etc on either Nimbuz or Fring. I don't have yahoo or MSN. I'm in China and my internet connect is never very good, even on the 3G networks. If anyone else has opinion about this, it would be cool to share.

Connectivity.

Well first of all, I need to have Skype on my phone because its sort of a standard on the desktop. But Skype does not connect to Google Talk or any other network. Skype only connects with Skype. Skype on Android DOES NOT have video calling. (booh!)

Fring connects to Google Talk VOICE, and I believe it also connects to MSN and Yahoo voice, ICQ, AIM. and SIP providers. But it does not have a desktop client, which is a problem. Fring does have video calling! BUT, only to other Fring client, making this feature pretty useless for me. If there was a desktop client, or it could use video chat with Google Talk network, this would be the winner, hands-down.

Nimbuz connects to Google Talk VOICE, and I believe it also connects to MSN and Yahoo voice, and ICQ. Does not have option to connect to SIP providers. It does connect to Facebook, Myspace, which is probably more usefull to more people (but not to me). But it does not have a desktop client, which is a problem. Does not have video calling.

About usability.

I really hate one thing about the Skype app ... its not clear how to turn it off. You have to go to the my-info tab and select log-off in the status menu. Otherwize, UI of the Skype application is good.

Nimbuz interface is pretty good and has a status bar notification when its on, although that notification unfortunately does not say if connected or not. It does show google profile pics.

Fring does not show profile pics unless the pics are on the phone. The interface is less tab-driven than Nimbuz or Skype...not sure that's a good thing (probably not), although the look and feel is a little more "friendly" IMHO.
[Android Apps and Games] ogami_ito:
Hi,

So no one has an opinion about which has better sound quality?
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ronhoover88:
hi
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Markie16:
I hope that we have that theme soon on our Galaxy 3
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] starof:
This already looks like InDroid with only a few different things.

________________

Samsung Galaxy 3

Lestatious 1.7
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Bubble-be:
I don't think we need another Honeycomb, but if you like it go for it.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] the_one_:
But we need this http://www.android-hilfe.de/themes-fuer-desire-hd/78859-theme-fuer-sense-roms-elegant-blues.html very awesome theme :)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] shadow7582:
Looks good.

It seems that the Battery Icon will be more sharpen than in InDroid or Apocalypse. I like it if there are coming more themes with readable Battery percentage like the Milky Theme.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] flo09:
yes we need this

what´s for a awesome theme :eek:
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] the_one_:
The original version : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=768848 :)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ronhoover88:
Well i tried gettin it sharp...unfortunately i'm not able to do it...may be its the device or may be i'm a noob to port...
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] FadeFx:
did anyone find a way to display battery percentage others than the steps it displays now? as i see it the readable battery icons would only display 100,90,80......30,20,15,10,5

i have read we need to modify stat_sys_battery.xml, but i am not sure if this is enough, since i think system only reports those values anyway.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ronhoover88:
Its actually 100,80,60,40,20,10,0
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ron_gangte:
Lestat is working on that.

Sent From My 1.3Ghz GT-I5801 Lestatious ACID V2 (Build 1.7)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ronhoover88:
Dude do you know how to change the font colour and the background colour when we press an hold the power menu...i guess its the popup menu
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ronhoover88:
Lestat is tryin the battery mod...hopefully its done by his final build
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ron_gangte:
Not sure about that.. I don't know if it's the pop-up menu.. It probably is not..

I haven't tried modding the power menu.. Just changed the icons.

Sent From My 1.3Ghz GT-I5801 Lestatious ACID V2 (Build 1.7)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ronhoover88:
Ok wat about the font color any idea
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] FadeFx:
thats the stepps the battery indicator shows, but the system shows 10% stepps plus 15% and 5% you can check this with BatterySnap that draws a graph...
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ron_gangte:
You'll have to edit certain *.xml files to do that.

Sent From My 1.3Ghz GT-I5801 Lestatious ACID V2 (Build 1.7)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ronhoover88:
Ok guys this where the problem lies http://db.tt/wZplGLZ
[Captivate Themes and Apps] h_bekhit:
is there a kernel that works normally with Gingerbread 2.3.3 on captivate ? :confused:
[Captivate Themes and Apps] TRusselo:
yeah quite a few.

they are the kernels in the dev section that say gingerbread or 2.3

and ask questions in the Q&A thread not the themes and apps...
[Captivate Themes and Apps] peachpuff:
They're only for cm7/miui though, won't work for samsungs i9000 jvk gingerbread rom.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SpaceK33z:
I am making my own Sense ROM, and I was wondering how I can change the default keyboard (default is HTC IME) to another keyboard set on boot.

I think it's in one of the xml's files, but where exactly?
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Hey,

The Archos Gen9 Tablets (from 5" to 10") will be released in July with Honeycomb:D

The Devices proposed will have the same architecture as our Gen8 Tabs.

Now my question is:

Will we be able to port the Honeycomb Rom ( designed for Gen9 Archos ) to our Gen 8 ?

I would love my tab even more if Honeycomb be on it:D
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
They may have the same architecture like Gen8 (and like all other tablets) but not the same chipset and may need other drivers.

regarding the honeycomb source code rumors: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/04/i-think-im-having-gene-amdahl-moment.html
[Gen8 General] fzelle:
@Lennb:

You really should learn to read the whole thing.

http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=50692

Here and everywhere else is stated that archos will ANOUNCE the tablets in June and that they MIGHT BE available in september.
[Gen8 General] Infinity123:
The archos gen9 tablets will have 1.6 GHz dual-core A9 processors:eek:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/sneak-peek-at-archos-gen-9-tablets-1-6-ghz-dual-core-a9-process/
[Gen8 General] luisivan:
If the gen9 tablets have an USB connected display as gen8 it should easy to port.
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Hey luisivan,

These are great news;):)

Do you still work on honeycomb?
[Gen8 General] spicy_puerto_rican:
Well wait a second....

Wouldn't it be possible to get Honeycomb to work on our Gen 8 tablets by way of decompiling the source code from Honeycomb 3.0 on the Xoom and adding the same exact drivers or tweaked drivers from our own 70/101 tablets that we have now? Someone could possibly take the build.prop and/or other needed parts from Honeycomb and somehow make it all work for us sooner so we don't have to wait for Google to release it?? Also, maybe even go as far as verifying that some/most of the code is correct by matching it up like a mirrored image to see what is and isn't supplied from the partial code that Asus released. Then copy the code Asus released and take the remaining supplied code from the Xoom and copy that as well to a custom Archos community-built Honeycomb firmware that we could use? After then someone could make an overclock to 1400-1550+ MHz or any speed that is stable for that matter?

But really, would something like this even be possible for us regardless if these new Archos Gen 9 tablets have the USB connected display or not?? And yes, I do agree that it would be easier with either a micro or full-size USB connected display. Am I thinking too big here people?
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
A little bit, yes:D

Here is my opinion:

We have to spend money into Developement for Gen8, or nobody cares about our devices:mad:

i know, its hard to believe but it is so..

Yes, we've some good developers, but the best of them (sauron) isn't an android developer, he works as an linux developer (i know android is an distribution, but its not the same, exspecially in developement):(

My Proposal:

Everybody spends 1-2 Dollars (accepted ca. 50-100 people would do this: 50 to 200 dollars) to the deceloper (team), that gets honeycomb on our gen8:)(i think best would be if they work with sauron and other urukdroid developers together, because of their archos knowledge)

With that we can ask here at xda in "normal" developement section for a developer (team) to do it:)

From my point of view that's the only way to get honeycomb on our devices;)

What do you guys think about this?

EDIT:I've seen the Xoom yesterday in town (lippstadt) at the t-mobile store, its freaking assome:D (i mean honeycomb:D)
[Gen8 General] awink1:
Is be happy to contribute a couple of dollars!
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
50-200 $ for a full project team? Are you kidding me? :D

While I'm working, I cost CHF 200 (~$225) per hour!

I know you mean it in good manner, but please stay realistic. this money will be just a donation, not a real support. you can buy them beer but you can't buy THEM. ;)
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
I know,i know:D oh chulri du verdienst viel^^

But if there's reward more developers think about this, i think:)

I've created this thread at "normal" Android Developement Section:

[Developers Wanted] -Honeycomb on Archos Gen8 (Reward in $)

Maybe this will help, we'll see:)
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
No I don't earn but I cost that much, this is a big difference ;)

I love neverending optimists :D
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Oh sorry i read it wrong:D

Oh i too:Dhehe^^
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Great News!

I've found an Developer, who's interested in Developing for Archos Gen8:):)

See here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13877108
[Gen8 General] spicy_puerto_rican:
Well I'd be very willing to work on porting Honeycomb to our Gen 8 devices even without donations or compensation but I'm completely clueless on knowing linux/android, programming, writing code, etcetera because I'm a total noob so I'm out unfortunately. I guess I need to hit the books... but by that time Honeycomb will probably already be ported and/or the full code released by Google too. :(:confused:
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
1:

No problem, you can help the Urukdroid Developement as little helper or tester;)

2:

Yes, but no one really know if and when they'll release the sc:mad:
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
I know: For Honeycomb? Never!

But for it's successor: http://gizmodo.com/5800358/what-is-androids-ice-cream-sandwich
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Yep, unfortunality:D

But can you understand the guide how to compile android drivers for our touchscreen?
[Gen8 General] cajl:
don't even hope 3.0 on the gen9 in the first time

2.3 yes
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Okey,okey:D

But anyone could tell what i found? Is it the solution for our problem about porting the touchscreens drivers?

Here the link once again:

http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-android-howto.html
[Gen8 General] cajl:
if you have the possibility to use 2.3 or 3.0 on gen 8

i paid for this
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
What you mean?

You would pay for it?

Or what?:D
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
Can I understand? I wrote the guide to compile kernel modules ;)

And no, you cannot compile kernel modules (= drivers) for honeycomb because we don't have the source. EoT.
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
I know:D But if this how-to at my link works, we could port for example Cyanogen Mod, aren't we?:)

Please chulri, can you say if the how-to at my link is good and helps us or not?:D
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
The USB touchscreen isn't a show stopper at all. especially not for CyanogenMod because we have the source, so we can compile the correct kernel modules. that shouldn't be that hard. :) but for god's sake forget about honeycomb! ;)

I think so, yes.
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
But its a bug that have to be fixed:D;)

Okey i have^^ The GB source code aren't out too,are they?:(

Okey, good:)

You think you could do this? You're the guy with Kernel knowledge;)

I just learning about Android Developement:)

_______

EDIT

okay i've just seen that Gingerbread Source Code is available :)

I try now to read me in here:http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html

But i guess you have to help me with that^^ want to be have more knowledge :)
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
Of course GB sources are released a "long" time ago, my HTC Wildfire is already running GB for a couple of weeks. I installed CyanogenMod v7 on it.

My opinion: We (whoever "we" is ;) ) should focus on CM, because after we got the initial work done, porting future CM stuff / releases (like ice cream sandwich) will not be that hard again and you have a huge base of developers and other people with knowledge who will help.

In simple words: It's just building the correct scripts, collecting the right drivers and a working kernel configuration. But of course, it's not thaaat easy :D

Unfortunately I will not be "the guy" who does it, I just really don't have the time to :( too many other projects on my list
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
1) Could you tell me what we have to do? What other problems do excist?

2) What do we need here?

3) Oh, dammed:D Do you know a guy who is good in kernel dev. except you here?
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
a) Configure BuildScripts for CyanogenMod (don't ask for further details, those who will do this should know what to do or ask the CyanogenMod guys)

b) Extract binaries like WiFi firmware and such stuff

c) Bake the pie :)

A lot of conversation with CyanogenMod guys

You may ask a guy who is already into that (CM + Android tablets):

- Galaxy Tab - CM7

- Folio 100 - CM7
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
I think i'll try with other guys to make that real:) I've no experience about Kernel and so but we'll see:)

a) Okey i think i'll ask first here at xda and if nobody knows how to do that,i'll post on CM forum:)

b) Okey, that sounds easier to me:D how do i get these binaries?

I'll register at the CyanogenMod Forum:)

__

I'll create a new thread here about this this evening i think;)
[Gen8 General] compyy:
Good going Lenn
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Nope, unfortunality not:D

Do you want to joyn us at Cyanogen Developement Thread?
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
How? Check out the build instructions for the Moto Droid: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Compile_CyanogenMod_for_Sholes#Copy_proprietary_files

While creating the build scripts, you also have to create a script called "extract-files.sh". it's not the >how<, it's the >>what<< that has to be answered (one thing that comes to my mind would be Wi-Fi firmware blob)
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Oh boy:D

I don't find these folders on my archos..:( what i do wrong?

Could you please joyn the develeopement forum (see at developement section)

We need a guy who knows what he does:D im a noob…
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
of course you don't find these folders on your archos, they will be on the build/development system not in the final device firmware
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Sorry but i dont get it:(:D

where are these files/folders?

If you think its too difficult to explain in english you could do it in german:D:)
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
to build a new rom, you need a "build system": this is a linux computer (may be a virtual machine) which downloads the source code, compiles and does some other stuff and in the end you get a kernel and an image of the filesystem. finished!

but a build system is not intelligent at all, you have to tell it what to do and you do this by writing "build scripts" (remember step1?).

now the build system knows what to do and does it so ofter you want it to do ;)

the only thing missing is you have to know what closed source binaries (called "blob") it needs to get it run (for example Wi-Fi firmware) and you have to get it from the Archos Gen8 stock firmware and give it to the build system. but this is one of the last points in finishing a custom rom.

I hope this is easier to understand :)
[Gen8 General] Lenn:
Okey, i understand:) thank you very much, chulri!

I've searched but i dont found anything about writing build scripts on android...

Okey, then we'll do this step (binaries) in the end, i think the best would be to write the build scripts first? What do you mean?

i think we should write now on the developement thread, then the other guys could read it:)
[Gen8 General] compyy:
Yeh sure, i would but i can't post in development thread :(
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
@compyy AFAIK you need 10 postings... so, three to go :D
[Gen8 General] compyy:
I think i did it :eek:
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
yeah.. happy porting, dude! go ahead, I won't stop you! :rolleyes:

not without a full honeycomb ;) so.. gingerbread (cm7) or wait for ice cream sandwich
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
yeah.. thanks for your time :rolleyes:
[Blade General] danb12:
Hi all

This is my first post and I'm new to this so take it easy on me OK.

Got my first Android the other and found it's smarter than me :(.

Anyway, I've just put flb-froyo-blade-r10b 2.2 on and all was going good until, i went to forward a message. On the old Orange rom that came with the phone it was easy to send to many people in my contacts (just press the logo next to the "To" box and then put a tick in the box next to the contact). On the new 2.2 rom no such thing (that I can see just a single contact).

Can anybody tell me if this feature can be added and how I do it?

Many thanks.
[Blade General] qkimat:
I'm using android 2.3 so i'm not sure about how it works on 2.2, but i just put a comma after one contact and just start typing another and choose it from the list.
[Blade General] jamidodger1:
Try Another SMS Client Like GOSMS.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reclusivenigma:
I've installed the latest cm7rc4 from the cm site. The YouTube app don't work for me, the symptom is just that it forces quits everytime it opens. No matter what I use to open it, I tried with the opera mini, stillthe same. Looking for somehelp, thanks in advance
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Works fine for me on r c 4.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eXDee:
Hi,

I'm getting this issue that other people seem to have got, everyone else seems to just flash an updated WM rom to fix it, but it isnt working. This occurs after the install completes and i reboot.

Rebooting in 3 seconds..

mdp_dma_to_mddi : busy

I have tried RUU_PPST_Vogue_SPRINT_WWE_3.03.651.4_2_Radio_3.42. 30_AM_NV_2.04_Ship.exe as well as RUU_Vogue_4350_TELUS_WWE_3.07.661.1_Radio_4350H_3. 41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe, ive tried flashing just the Bell 3.42.50 radio and i've tried NFSFAN's WM6.5 1.00 FINAL ROM.

All have the same result. with this error

Any ideas?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kinners:
Are you using haret to boot android? Try the zimage here
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eXDee:
Apologies for ignorance, but how do i load this zimage?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kinners:
The zip file in that link has a .nbh if you just want to install android over the top of WM6, the zimage is for another method that lets you reboot into android leaving WM6 still installed on the phone's internal flash memory. I've never used that method so I won't try and explain it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] l1q1d:
Download atools and read the help...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eXDee:
Flashed the NBH and it fixed it, thanks
[Droid X General] taterDX:
sooooooo all this talk of vz limiting & suspending accounts due to data usages & this new "rooted phones hunter" from vz & moto talk...

has anyones account been limited? or are there any official news articles or actual announcements from vz or moto on the web?

just curious

sent from the DX
[Droid X General] Avelnan:
As to my knowledge, the only tethering app they can track is the 3G Mobile Hotspot app preinstalled into your phone. There is a hack that allows people to tether using that app for free.
[Droid X General] chbennett:
I've seen throttling but that's all. Nothing else yet.

Sent from my Droid X packing Gingerbread.
[Droid X General] faber78:
havent seen or heard anything

have no doubt eventually the possibility exists....doubt the sky is falling though....

edit:

news with a reputable source sure would be appreciated....
[Droid X General] SysAdmin-X:
I"m pretty sure that any type of tethering will get you in trouble from what a lot of P3droid's writing states... Esp. since google can remote wipe/remove apps from your phone...I would assume carriers have some insight as well to what a customer is using.
[Droid X General] openbox9:
Google's insight is from what you've downloaded from the market I believe. I still can't believe how blown out of proportion this rumor has become.
[Droid X General] cstrife999:
There is already one thread about this topic don't need two :-)
[Droid X General] taterDX:
sorry didn't see the other thread... but how can they track an unrooted easytether app vs. the rooted wireless tether app? I don't doubt eventually one day this will all be true but I still think they have better things to do than to hunt rooted phone users down...

sent from the DX
[Droid X General] FtL1776:
You guys apps have nothing to do with it, you can download tethering apps, they just don't work, therefore they cannot bust you on this.

What they will bust you on is the IPs you are accessing, easy ones will be like Windows Updates servers, firewall/anti virus update servers, Steam will be another big one...

There is IPs that you will be accessing on your PC that some of you guys can't deny will be definitive proof you are tethering, and I guarantee as hard as you try they will always have a way of figuring it out and there is nothing you can do, its a service you are required to pay for and they are going to make you pay for it.
[Droid X General] taterDX:
see that's coming at it from a different angle & I totally get that... but I paid for easy tether & I'm not rooted I use it on my personal com... & it works perfect I just think that if there was a true issue w/tethering why not remove easytether or pdanet from the marketplace? just my 2¢

sent from the DX
[Droid X General] taterDX:
and I know someones going to say something along lines the lines of its a google vs. vz issue... well then if vz starts blocking apps I think there would be an issue w/google...

sent from the DX
[Droid X General] Jmoney47:
They cannot do this because no matter what Verizon, or any other carrier for that matter, wants us to pay for or does not want on the market, it is not their market. The market is controlled by Google and they will only remove apps that go against their policies.

Anyway we should all be aware that the android market is not the only source of apps for android. There is the Amazon market which certainly has different rules that Google's market, and there is Applanet which simply does not have rules or at least none that would keep tethering apps out (or a large quantity of others either). Also, the developers could simply post the apps on their website if removed. Therefore it would not be at all effective to remove them from the market
[Droid X General] taterDX:
for once I agree w/jmoney... and we have yet to see evidence of any account suspensions our cancellations due to tethering... still waiting on some proof & tired of all the "talk" of this rooted hunting sprees...

sent from the DX