yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Peew971:
I quite like WP7 but wouldn't recommend it to a friend today. It depends on how patient you are as I don't think it will be mature before 2012. You should have a look at some older threads on the topic and see if you could cope with the issues people have with WP7.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_Enlightened:
Why wait?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weatherx:
i'd wait at least until mango. but by then nokia wp7 would be only weeks away.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orangekid:
I'd wait at least until Mango but the Arrive looks pretty sweet if you want to jump ship right now.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlott069:
WP7 might still be a bit young, but we know some of the major features that are coming, it was said before by someone else, but it ISINT going to get worse before it gets better.

and if you dont mind playin with it some, they will already do a lot. Id go with it now and watch it get better as it goes, otherwise it might be a while before you get to switch later, with contracts and all
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Peew971:
Simple answer: The OP wants to upgrade, which means he will be tied to (or stuck with if he hates it) the phone for 2 years. Since WP7 is still lacking, there's really no rush. I'd say wait until Mango as not only will the OS be better but also new devices will be coming at that time.

Even if you love your phone (which I guess you do), you have to put that aside to give sound, useful advice and in that case I think it's better to wait.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PieOfJustice:
If you can wait then hold out until Nokia launches. If you need one now then its not a bad os. Its nicer then iOS but the market place is a WP7 weakspot even as of now. If you don't need games then its pretty good.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_Enlightened:
Apps

I guess the main reason for me to wait is because of apps. I need Spotify and what my company is developing (only android and ios for now... but not for long:))
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ohgood:
what does that mean, without using more buzzwords in the explaination ?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] textron:
Thanks everyone. I am going to have to wait in the short term anyways until my contract is up. I see Verizon is only coming out with the Trophy in the short term. I am going to debate to see if I want to leave them or not. I like the Arrive as I perfer keyboards if possible and it's essentially a Touch Pro 3 in at least hardware.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pfranceschi:
Hotmail, Windows Live services, Zune, XBOX Live, Windows Media Center, Windows 7/8, Office 2010/365, Cloud services (Skydrice, Sharepoint), Visual Studio, Silverlight, Bing, Yahoo, etc. No other company has this much software available to integrate seamlessly into one ecosystem like Microsoft can.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicksti:
Should you switch from X to Y checklist:

Step 1a (on contract purchase) - See what your provider has to offer.

Step 1b (unlocked purchase) - See what is out there in your budget.

Step 2 - Make a list of all the tasks you accomplish on your current phone.

Step 3 - Make a list of all the tasks you would like to accomplish (wishlist).

Step 4 - Do the research.

Step 5 - Try before you buy.

If Windows Phone can do the things you need it to do now and you like it then take the plunge. Be very wary about purchasing a phone that cannot do what you need but will in the future; you may become very frustrated.

I love WP7 too and was going to get the Trophy but I ended up with a Defy (unlocked purchase). I needed Skype and Whatsapp so I will wait until Mango and get the one phone I have always wanted if it was not for its unattractive UI: Nokia!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] colossus_r:
Hi all

I think that this is the best time to buy an WP7 phone...

In my country (Greece) you can get HTC Trophy or LG Optimus 7 with 199 euros.....

For what those phones can offer this is an amazing price..

With the upcoming mango update and all those stuff that MIX has reveal the WP7 OS

will be a robust and mature enough mobile platform..

Guys ...dont forget 2 moths ago the price for those phones was arrount 500 euros...

IMO yes...this is the best time to buy an WP7 device
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_Enlightened:
I just swapped my x10 with my new beautiful toy... HTC Mozart! Fantastic:) I will never waste money or time on Android or IOS again!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nok_fusion:
glad to Hear that :D
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mallen462:
What makes it better than a android?

Follow me on Twitter @mallen462
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_Enlightened:
The fluidity of the OS in particular is important. Android is the ugly duckling of ios:) widgets alone creates no fluidity and it's laggy... Might be the x10, but don't think so. I've used the EnergyROMs (winmo 6.5) and it's far superior to both IOS and Android, but as you all know... Few apps and weak hardware. Can't wait for Mango!
[Nook Color General] Paticakeman:
My battery died and now I can't get it to turn on. It'd been in the charger for days now.
[Nook Color General] Gin1212:
I would try a bootable sd first so you can see if anything is actually happening. Other than that, not much more I can think of. sorry =(
[Nook Color General] woot1524:
What color is the charge light on the cable while it's plugged in? Was it yellow and now green, always yellow, or always green?

I would first try putting in a bootable CWM SD-card, just to check and see if it's a problem with the /boot partition and not the battery. The nook can look like it's not turning on, when infact it is finding itself unable to boot the eMMC.

Worst case scenario: you need to do a warranty return to b&n and hope they either just give you a new one, no questions asked, or replace your battery and not care that it's rooted/flashed.

Worst case scenario 2: You have to replace the battery yourself, which in all honesty doesn't look all that bad to the technologicaly inclined. The hard part will be finding a good substitute battery with all the right dimentions/connections.
[Nook Color General] Paticakeman:
Looks light some light at the end of the tunnel. Hooked it up to a laptop and was able too keep the nook turned off while it was hooked up so to started charging! All is good now
[Nexus S General] fsufan1200:
New Nexus S For AT&T

Hello,

Has anyone rooted, installed a custom ROM on the newly released Nexus S on AT&T yet.

I have the unlocked T-Mobile Nexus S rooted, and running a custom ROM, and was wondering if the AT&T branded one will root, and be able to accept the same custom ROM's that are used on the T-Mobile model.

Thank you in advance for any answers!

Matt
[Nexus S General] Vandam500:
It's already up for sale? Link?
[Nexus S General] Jrbourque:
Its a nexus s you don't worry about root ....that's the point of the phone :)
[Nexus S General] Zardos66:
I want a link!

It should be the same as the T-Mobile one, the only difference is the radio.
[Nexus S General] juicedog:
Negri Electronics? It's from another thread. I've never heard of them before. Let us know if you get one from them.
[Nexus S General] newspeak:
i thought they were just selling the Canadian nexus s ...its the same bands for rogers and bell/telus as ATT
[Nexus S General] [hfm]:
One of the gadget sites had a shot of a white one that is rumored to be going att band at best buy.
[Nexus S General] Raspster:
Got mine today. Everything seems fine.. Of coarse, no 720p. The camera for pictures is amazing thou. Best I've seen so far. I have a bad feeling about the HSPA cap on upload. I'm getting anywhere from 1500 to 2500 on the download which is good but the upload, I can't get more than 400. I've tested like 50 times with the same results. Of coarse, it can be fixed with a root and NEW ROM but the ROM out of the box may have this disabled. (Stupid!) Other than that, screen seems pretty good. For some reason it's not really poppin like I hoped but it's definitly super AMOLED. My GOD this thing is a fingerprint magnet. If it had a fingerprint reader, it would be THE ENTIRE PHONE! Maybe I should have picked up the ugly ass white one.. hmm. If you have any questions, ask away...
[Nexus S General] jkurl:
Mine will be here on thursday. I just upgraded to the tethering plan so ATT can' say **** to me for using tethering now. Never used it before but now I have that option.

This thing is gonna be sweet.
[Nexus S General] Raspster:
Sweet. It's a real nice device. The flash in the stock browser is WAY faster and smoother than the atrix and definitly faster than the thunderbolt. I tried the thunderbolt and for some reason, the HTC broswer not only runs dog slow but it renders flash images very poorly. Two things I'm pissed with on the nexus s... You can't view animated GIF's or pics thru the messaging app (MMS animated pics/GIFF'S) and you can't intergrate facebook contacts..? Are they for real with this?? LOL I was able to do both on my old dell streak... Yea, I know... I can get handsent to get the GIFF MMS support back but wanted to stay stock android which is part of the reason why I picked up the nexus s. Other than that, amazing device.
[Nexus S General] jkurl:
That is even more of a reason I paid big bucks for it. I got rid of Facebook and don't use mms that much.

I use YM to chat w/ the wife and others.
[Nexus S General] purplecrayons:
Hoping this comes out in the US by the end of the month. I was considering an Inspire 4G but I'll go for a Nexus if I have a choice.
[Nexus S General] jonnydopemsr:
Any pics of this on AT&T and with 3G?
[Nexus S General] 651stp:
this is great news, hopefully the more people we get the more gets contributed to the nexus s. ^________^!
[Nexus S General] sofia-captivate:
Its coming here to Rogers which is same 3g as att on April 14
[Nexus S General] pkshr:
Did you get it from negrielectronics?
[Nexus S General] e-dub:
mine is out for delivery today from negri electronics, i'm on at+t.

eric b
[Nexus S General] pkshr:
Is that site working? I cannot open http://www.negrielectronics.com/
[Nexus S General] e-dub:
it's down for me, as well. that's really weird?

eric b
[Nexus S General] pkshr:
Looks like they are back now. Btw, which one did you buy - white or black? How much did you pay in total? Pls dont forget to share your experience once you get it.

Enjoy
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
just root it again using the 9023 guide
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
That's right, even though the model number is 9020A you have to use the 9023 clockwork recovery ...

Use the drivers in the sdk and flash recovery with fastboot.
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
It's awesome, more reliable than my Desire HD. Instant GPS locks, better pics and videos, front facing camera, lighter weight, etc.

I liked the fact I could type easily with the HD, but the reduction in screen size with the Nexus S doesn't hinder the speed of my typing. I think 4 inch screen is the sweet spot.
[Nexus S General] solidkevin:
Ha awesome cant wait to get mine, I think the Desire HD is a fine phone but NS just has it all for what I want!
[Nexus S General] Major Clod:
Is there anything specific to look for in determining which version of the 9020A i have?

I'm from Australia and I had the phone shipped from GSM Nation. All I know is their stock is Latin American.
[Nexus S General] Major Clod:
Oh sorry I think I misunderstood.

I thought you were implying there were two types of i9020a.

What you were actually saying is 9020A needs to use the 9023 root guide.

9020T uses the normal 9020 guide.
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
Been doing speed tests with a AT&T Rooted, KB3'd Nexus S, and download speeds are spotty. I've gotten 3900 down once, all other times downloads are 1500ish. Howevery uploads speeds are a consistant 1.3-1.5 up.
[Nexus S General] nakadm:
Agree with all your points, but the Desire HD has better call quality and call volume.

Too bad I am having issues with 3G, gotta bring it back
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
It honestly is a toss-up between the two devices. I keep having second thoughts and switching from one to the other.

The biggest factors for me personally seems to be the slow GPS lock on the HD, the video capture quality and front camera. However, in terms of browsing the HD is way smoother (e.g. try scrolling on first page of pocketnow.com with a Nexus S - total fail) and typing is awesome with the huge screen.

Also, when comparing Quadrant, even though the NS gets higher scores, the HD kills it in terms of time to run the benchmark and frame rate on the planet-moon demo (something like 45 fps on the HD but only about 15 fps on the NS.. wtf?).

It will be a sad day when I get rid of one and keep the other :(
[Nexus S General] kiwi45:
Can BLN enabled ROMS be flashed on the the AT&T Nexus S? Internally are they essentially like i9020 or i9023?
[Nexus S General] ogdobber:
BLN is in the kernel and yes they work on the 9020a. Roms that include a BLN kernel will work as well.

I am running CM7 with my BLN kernel and it works beautifully
[Nexus S General] kellexbarr:
I just want to say that I love all of you heh.

My white Nexus S arrived yesterday and I've been so annoyed at the slow ATT speeds...and then you introduced me to the XXKB3 kernel and life is grand.

Thanks all.
[Nexus S General] kiwi45:
Thanks. This is important as as you may know BLN does not yet work on the 9023. Seems that AT&T Nexus S got to be rooted using the method for 9023 so I'm just wondering if the AT&T set is essentially a 9023.
[Nexus S General] captspaulding1000:
not sure if this is the right place to post this but its the only thread discussing this 850/1900 nexus s. are everyone's capacitive buttons (back,menu, search and home) really dim? mine are not visible in bright light.
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
Mine are quite dim, but they're still visible in bright lighting like my work lights. Even in direct sunlight I can faintly see the button outlines. But in lit areas, I don't need too much backlighting as I can see where the buttons are placed. In darkness I need some help to hit them, but not in the day.
[Nexus S General] Matridom:
I like them dim as they are, i found the Galaxy's where so bright, it was distracting during dark hours. Driving was very distracting when you have everything in the car so dim, then these 4 bright white spots....
[Nexus S General] freebirds87:
Is Negri electronics the best place to purchase this device from? I've found the coupon code in earlier posts (many thanks!) but I just wanted to make sure that there aren't any better deals floating around out there.
[Nexus S General] jonnydopemsr:
just wanted to share more information http://www.google.ca/nexus/#/tech-specs
[Nexus S General] arika44:
Good Canada version is final official, hope att version will be officially official soon in US
[Nexus S General] rgbc:
For folks asking about speeds

Picked an NS 3g850 yesterday from Best Buy.

Here in Vancouver on Rogers I'm seeing 3-4mbps down, and a consistent 1.2mbps up, pretty much the same speeds with the stock radio XXKB2 and the updated radio XXKB3, and very similar speeds to what I was seeing with the N1 with multiple radios.

On wifi I'm seeing 15-20mbps down, 2.9mbps up on my 50x3mbps home connection.
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
those spec are only correct for the T-mobile USA version, the same that works on Windmobile and MobilityCity and Videotron

the spec are wrong for AT&T, Rogers, Fido, Bell, Telus

details here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1031760
[Nexus S General] rgbc:
The above page lists the bands for both NS versions, what else is missing?

Quad-band GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900

UTMS HSPA : 850, 1900, and 2100 or

AWS HSPA : 900, 1700, 2100
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
never mind, up to a couple of days ago it was still showing only

Quad-band GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900

AWS HSPA : 900, 1700, 2100
[Nexus S General] solidkevin:
Just got it today. So far it seems good but there is a drab look to it, yellowish, Can a root and rom first. It? Kinda annoying...
[Nexus S General] ogdobber:
ha, yeah my 9020a was the same...very yellow. flashed my kernel (of course) and fixed it with voodoo;)
[Nexus S General] solidkevin:
Hmm, is this easy to do? I have never done any rooting or anything like that on Android, only on IOS in terms of unlocking/Jailbreaking (easy), will it be easy to do? I really wanna do this as its annoying the hell out of me.
[Nexus S General] solidkevin:
I see there is a voodoo and voodoo plus on the market, which do I get and what do I do to fix this? Any help would be much appreciated!
[Nexus S General] guitphreak:
Update: For some reason it was on the wrong band (if that's possible). in the *#*#4636#*#*, phone information, menu, select radio-band, USA, and fixed!
[Nexus S General] ogdobber:
yes, I forgot the voodoo plus app will work with stock kernel...but you must be rooted. It is pretty easy, there is a guide(sticky in general I think) (use the one for the 9023, even though this is a 9020) don't ask, just because.

once rooted, and you have superuser then the skys the limit.

with the voodoo app you can "fix" the colors
[Nexus S General] htc fan89:
is the Canadian version with super amoled screen? I seen people selling slcd version on Kijiji.
[Nexus S General] solidkevin:
Thanks, looked at the guide, seems intimidating...:(
[Nexus S General] solidkevin:
And if I screw up somehow I dunno what I'll do!
[Nexus S General] RogerPodacter:
just do it, its not bad at all. nexus phones are wide open on purpose, and rooting is a must have! its a beautiful thing for development with root access, you can do so much.
[Nexus S General] solidkevin:
Ok Im gonna try it, I really hope it all goes well....
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
Yes it has the S-AMOLED display. The Kijiji versions with SC-LCD are most likely European models which do not have the correct 3G frequency bands.
[Nexus S General] bfksc:
All I can say is that my Rogers Nexus S definitely does not have a yellow tint. I don't know if Google fixed it and didn't revise the firmware version or what, but it's not yellow. Here's all the details just for comparison:

Android 2.3.3

Baseband I9020AUCKB2

Kernel 2.6.35.7-g1d030a7 android-build@apa28 #1

Build GRI54

There is also the original model number info under the Futureshop SKU sticker GH69-12783 D and GT-i9020A.

The Futureshop sticker model is specific to the carrier and store, so I doubt it's important.

Anyone notice anything different from their model?

:confused:
[Nexus S General] homergoalie:
The telus model I have has all the same identifiers as yours. I still used voodoo color, it is quite a noticeable difference from stock.
[Nexus S General] dsixda:
I have the Telus one as well. Increasing the blue in RGB Multipliers of the Voodoo app really makes a huge difference... from beast to beauty :D
[Nexus S General] MKVFTW:
Can someone tell me if these phones are carrier locked when you buy them? I am looking to get one and i have someone willing to sell me one from Koodo ($440+ tax) and i would pick it up in a heartbeat if its not.
[Nexus S General] Dazog:
THEY are UNLOCKED.
[Nexus S General] MKVFTW:
Thank you, i figured it would be silly for google to allow thier device to be carrier locked but i wasn't sure. There are going to be a huge surge in signups with koodo followed but a HUGE number of cancellations the next day haha.
[Nexus S General] donharden2002:
This is the info on my nexus s i9020a. Does it look right to those in the know. It isnt rooted but is unlocked. I plan on rooting soon but just curious if this is the right info for stock 2.3.3

Thanks
[Nexus S General] MU-Biomed:
What's up with that build #?
[Nexus S General] twigggs:
This does not look like mine did at factory.

Model: Nexus S

Andriod Version:2.3.3

Baseband Version: I9020AUCKB2

Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-g1d030a7 android-build@apa28 #1

Build Number: GRI54

Mine was purchased through a Rogers plus store at which time I overpaid for this phone....
[Nexus S General] CraneGuy:
Your baseband should be kb2 and build number GRI-54, not sure what happenned there. If it was unlocked when you got it then i'd say you didn't get a new phone.

Theres a nandroid backup of this phone in a thread in Q&A and I have the kb2 baseband posted in a thread in general.
[Nexus S General] donharden2002:
Thanks everyone, I thought it looked off to me. I actually made a trade for this phone from a member on rogers.

The market is the old version on it which doesn't have all of the apps in it. I thought it might have been a fake.
[Nexus S General] donharden2002:
Ok I want able to root the phone our get cwm working on it so I used odin to get the build# and everything right except the baseband which now is NODGXXKB3.

Is there a proper baseband (radio) that I can flash with odin. For the life of me I can't get this thing rooted. Also my market is still the old version, is there a way I can update it as well. I'm guessing not without being rooted but thought I'd ask.

Thanks
[Nexus S General] desireintoronto:
For the Canadians on here, Best buy sold me the 'koodo model' for $425 + tx.
[Nexus S General] FANdroid:
I jumped on this deal as well :)
[Nexus S General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Im using the NSCOLLAB XB3 radio:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=959282

Is it that specific radio or my phone but I'm getting HORRENDOUS reception in my home. I'm talking 1-2 bars. Yes, tell me about how bars don't mean much and that SNR is more important, but I'm pretty sure Android has the bars => dB correlated pretty similarly.

I got 3-4 bars on my Milestone easily, but I'm getting anywhere from 0-2 on my Nexus S. Is it the radio?
[Nexus S General] CraneGuy:
You should try flashing KB2, it's in my thread in general, there are reports of some problems with the other radio's for some of us while they seem to work great for others. Worth a shot anyway.
[Nexus S General] Sophos1:
I am using KB3 from here

on at&t and get great reception.

Cheers
[Nexus S General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Also, what's the word on GPS locks with this phone? I know people said the SGS issues were fixed but to me its slow as hell to lock or the GPS antenna sucks. My Milestone locks no problem indoors, but I see 4-5 bars on GPS Status for 4-5 satellites on my Nexus S, but they're all extremely low bars (low signal). I'm used to 4-5 second locks on my Milestone. My Nokia N82 had no problem locking indoors too even without aGPS data....

Edit: Ok, setting it on my desk = no lock ,but holding it up it finally locks. All the bars on GPS Status are damn low though even though I'm 6/6 locks.
[Nexus S General] Ieatnoobs:
So i finally pulled the trigger and ordered a Nexus S from Negri Electronics.

Now, i come from the Blackberry side so when i get my Nexus S, what plan will it be compatible with? i currently have the unlimited blackberry personal
[Nexus S General] PTzero:
If your current plan is with AT&T your new Nexus S should just work. AT&T BB plans are provisioned with the wap.cingular APN. I switched to Android from a BB International Unlimited plan and both my Nexus One and Nexus S just work.
[Nexus S General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Tried KB2 (stock), KB3, and KD1.

The latter 2 improve on upload speeds and I can't tell the difference. Stock is just bad. In terms of reception in SNR, the Nexus S is just bad. A solid -10dB worse than my Moto Milestone. Then again SNR means different things for different hardware. It seems with 0 bars I can still get 3mbit downloads where my Moto Milestone will be jumping to EDGE or powering up its radio big time and getting hot.
[Nexus S General] jlaudio27:
I can also confirm that negrielectronics.com is official, I got mine last week :)
[Nexus S General] p00kienrayray:
Hey guys, I'm considering buying an att nexus s as the sprint network in my area sucks. Att is ok where im at, was getting consistent 1Mbs down on my dell streak. But if rooting the nexus can maybe unlock higher data speeds, i dont mind switching back to the capped data. Probably looking at negri as its the cheapest I've found after the $35 coupon. Is there other competitive websites?