yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] skadude66:
So I have done a comparison of some of the major ROMs that are out there right now.

All of these tests were done with a 48MB VM Heap, JIT turned off.

I ran FroyoMOD and Cronos at 900MHz each, because I feel that was the best combination of battery life and speed, and the 100MHz difference would not make a big difference in the scores.

I ran both tests twice on all ROMs tested, and am posting the lowest value as a gauge.

FroyoMOD 2.7.0(900MHz, 53 Vsel)

Smartbench: 686/851

Quadrant: 905

Cronos Ginger 1.2.0(900MHz, 56 Vsel)

Smartbench: 596/837

Quadrant: 893

MIUI 1.4.29(1000MHz, 64 Vsel)

Smartbench: 722/878

Quadrant: 1065

CM7 7.1.0-RC0-11.05.03(1000MHz, 64 Vsel)

Smartbench: 440/882

Quadrant: 1046

So, as you can see, MIUI and CM7 seem to be the front runners in terms of performance, benchmark-wise. I find that the scrolling in MIUI is very smooth, so that's a plus, but I prefer the Gingerbread experience that CM7 or Cronos offers.

FroyoMOD is my choice for stability right now, as I am having some weird launcher issues with Gingerbread ROMs, that I do not have with FroyoMOD.

Hopefully this will give some insight into some of the more popular ROMs :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] benji:
you just explained my life perfectly!

and i agree with your findings and decision
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] kiwibrick:
I have tried 3 roms so far.

Stock Vanilla 2.1 rom - Stable but slightly limiting

CM6 - Not as stable as stock, I was getting heaps of screen redraws when going back to home screen (adwlauncher) and some random force closes, MUCH more customisable though!

Cronos (Froyo) - Seems a bit more stable than CM6 (for me), although I did upgrade to adw-EX not long after going to Cronos and that seemed faster and more stable than the free version too.

Reading this thread I think I will have to try the shadowmod rom out soon too!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ctomgee:
Stock Eclair 2.1.1 --> FroyoMOD 2.5 --> FroyoMOD 2.6 --> CyanogenMod7.0 --> Cronos 1.2 --> CyanogenMod7.0.1 --> CyanogenMod 7.1.0

What can I say about stock Eclair? it was fairly stable, but had DSI errors, which led to occasional "soft" reboots back to the bootanimation. Also, it didn't have great performance, I didn't like the Moto stock camera much, and Apps2SD was a pain to implement.

I liked FroyoMOD a LOT. Battery life was great; it lasted a day and some change, with moderate use. It seemed memory management was really good; I never had any issues playing any games, and did not experience much lag at all. BUT, one thing bugged me; there were occasions where when someone called me, the phone wouldn't ring or vibrate. It would display the incoming call on the screen, but it was just completely silent. There was also a graphical bug with the calendar where it displayed an artifact at the top of the calendar, blocking out some of the items displayed, or the days of the week, depending on what calendar view you were in. I was hoping 2.6 would fix these issues, but they persisted. (In fairness, the calendar issue DID end up getting fixed in 2.6.1b, I believe). Were it not for those two issues, I'd probably still be with this ROM.

So from there I went to CM7. I liked it, but it had some issues. Battery life seemed to have taken a step backwards; it lasted maybe 10-12 hours on a charge with moderate use. And it seemed memory was a bit of an issue too, but I think that was because of the increased strain of running Gingerbread. But I liked all the extra features, bells, and whistles. It had MORE features than FroyoMOD.

I'd heard Cronos Ginger was supposed to have better battery than CM7, which was interesting, since it is essentially based off of it. So I gave it a shot. It had the same issues as CM7, but some additional ones as well. I couldn't turn off the DSI workaround "fix"; regardless of how I checked it in the CM Extras settings, it was always on. And battery did not seem to improve. So I went back to CM7, and haven't looked back.

I also took it upon myself to install some apps and tweak several settings and now I can squeak about 18 hours out of my battery with moderate use. That's assuming, of course, I'm not surfing or playing Angry Birds on my phone for 3 hours straight. That sucks the heck out of the battery.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bandroid842:
How was memory on Cronos Ginger? Was the launcher less laggy, for example? I used Launcher Pro and it was VERY heavy and stuttery.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
People still have launcher issues? :rolleyes:

According to Titanium backup, I have 270 items in the "backup all user apps + system data...

No ADW lag... it doesn't matter what the rom is...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ctomgee:
I didn't notice much of a difference between the memory management on Cronos and CM7, but in fairness, I didn't stay on Cronos for long enough to really test out the differences. Besides which, I've recently ended up running zepplinrox's v6 supercharger script to tweak the memory on my current CM7 ROM by "fixing" the OOM groupings. Do a forum search for it, it works wonders, and doesn't require another app install that eats up memory, like Auto Memory Manager (AMM).

AMM works as well, but since it requires another app install, I believe it ends up using a little bit of memory, which if you use zepplinrox's script, it doesn't use any extra memory at all, from what I understand.

If you're having lag issues with Launcher Pro, is it on Cronos? You may be able to tweak it a bit just with the Launcher Pro settings. I have it set to use homescreen caches, set the homescreen cache type to compressed, and build caches as needed. Don't bother with the memory usage preset. With those settings, even before I used zepplinrox's supercharger, my launcher was lag free. I originally had the same settings, except for the homescreen cache type, I had it set to normal instead of compressed, and it had some stuttering when opening/closing the screen previews, and had an occasional bit of lag. Once I changed it to compressed, my performance on the launcher and homescreen increased quite a bit.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hubhib:
I switched from FroyoMOD to CyanogenMOD RC7 last weekend because of the constant reboots I got on FroyoMOD. It was faster than the original Motorola 2.2.1 and games would run okay but it wasn't very reliable, even with the DSI fix. Now I've got the latest CyanogenMOD running and it works great. I've applied the SuperCharger script from Zeppelinrox and disabled the JIT and everything is rock solid and snappy. The only drawback is the batterylife, wich is far more worse than that from FroyoMOD(wich was superb!), but it luckily holds out till the end of the day..

Oh, and I tend to notice something, why isn't anybody using GO Launcher EX? From my experience it's more snappier than LauncherPro or ADW and has some great features.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bandroid842:
Hey!

There have been QUITE A FEW UPDATES. Cyanogenmod, Ho!No! and other cyanogen based, as well as even Cronos is updated to 2.3.4.

Interestingly, Cronos is at the default 550Mhz.

Can someone update us on the newest updates on their roms?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] choudu1:
Froyomod is the best rom I've used and I've tried iceandfire, cm, cronos and stock. Gb on milestone is too slow because of ram (kernel) and until motorola release a gb kernel the milestone won't be fast enough. Also froyomod is really good for gaming because I get nearly 110mb of ram
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] pcphobic:
totally agree with you 100%!!!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] pcphobic:
I am not going to say much.

Just watch this video yourself to see how "snappy" Cronos Ginger ver.1.1 (it has better battery life than ver.1.2) is.

[youtube]z1vBcNsDkn0[/youtube]

The developer of Cronos Ginger came out with ver.1.3 and it had amazing battery life but it was laggy. So most of us reverted back to Cronos ver.1.1 until the developer improves it and come out with Cronos ver.1.4
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] choudu1:
In my experience cronos isn't great. Its bloody fast ill give you that but it doesn't seem to go into standby and the battery drains really fast. Iceandfire in my opinion is best
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hkchenv:
Try Froyo X1.2

a great ROM

CPU 800Mhz cool!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] choudu1:
What's so good about it?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bandroid842:
I just tried Ho!No! for a few hours. It looks nice and removes a lot of unnecessary things and adds the goodies from the starts (gapps for example.) However, launcher pro app drawer opening remains laggy. That is the only problem I noticed with it, and with all gingerbread versions. I still yet to try Pcphobic's mod of Cronos.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bandroid842:
I want to ask a question. All of you who use gingerbread-based ROMS on Milestone: do you still suffer from memory-based problems? How do they manifest themselves? Do you suffer from FCs? Where do ROMS feel laggy?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] choudu1:
Well its not that bad on iceandfire 2.2 gb. But the mem mangement issue is very subtle when using the v6 supercharger
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] qipengart:
Using SteelDroid 7.0 and it works very smoothly. I had to underclock it slightly at 800mhz so it wouldn't get too hot! :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] motion_blur:
[ROM] iceandfire v2.4 (27-May-2011) *Overhauled*:

It's my favorite ROM, too.

Whole new milestone exerience. Runs slick like a herring.

Almost thought I've got a new Phone there
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bandroid842:
THREE ROMS:

1- Ice and Fire 27/5: Very smooth and with the tiny standard launcher lag that all CM7 based Milestone ROMS. Otherwise, works fine.

2- APAC Arabic 2.2.1: Work brilliantly, especially for those who use Arabic and want a hardware keyboard and Froyo RAM generosity for the Milestone. One hitch though: MANY APPS CANNOT BE MOVED TO SD!

3- CM7 27/5: Using it right now, and it works perfect. Tiny lag when opening and closing ADW, as with all, but otherwise brilliant. Only hit one snag when trying to use Astro Bluetooth to send/receive files. Keeps FCing.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] skadude66:
Have you tried FroyoMOD 2.8.0b? Battery life is amazing on it and it's very snappy.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hearts king101:
In my point of view :

The best is stock roms.

GB roms >>>>>> iceandfire v2.4.( using it right now );)

BTW bandroid842

If u use arabic froyo with app2ext, this would be more better than moving apps to SD.

I've tried both ways >>>>> app2ext is better.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] tannax:
I don't tried a lot of ROMs... only 2: ShadowMOD and CyanogenMOD4Milestone

ShadowMod was really cool but still unstable or don't have so good performances depending on which RC do you choose RC3/RC6... and now there is no update :(

So i switch to CyanogenMod7 for milestone by kabaldan and this one is really stable, good performance and all the CyanogenMod tool. It's still a beta but everyone should try it: android.doshaska.net/cm7
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
try this ..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1090899

its a miui rom .. i have tried all GB roms n i find this is the best balance between battery n performance

i can also play modern combat 2 without ne lags .. beat tht :P

n the luk is awesome , u feel u got a new phone ..

enuf free ram always .. its got balance 2 settings of zepplin pre installed
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] andromile:
Hi everyone, my choice is CM7, now it's very stable and fast. ADW on it rom works very fine from time when I changed the colums number to four. I have no lags. But I have one problem with this rom. The proximity sensor in automatic mode works only when light is changing from dark to light. In second direction from light to dark it doesn't work. It's a problem in all CM7 roms. Do you have the same ? I can't post it in thread about CM7 beacuse I don't have permission :/. At the end sorry for my poor english ;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bandroid842:
Are there any screenshots?

QUESTION TO EVERYONE: I just installed latest CM7 and I was playing with it without using it as a phone (no sim card). Then I put it and something odd happened. When I get a call and it hangs up, I cant wake up screen unless I get a missed call. No matter what I press. Phone is okay, and working but screen does NOT wake up.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bandroid842:
This is VERY interesting!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
I installed CM7 RC8 last week and just updated to RC9 yesterday. Very stable, and has given new life to my otherwise laggy Milestone. I'm impressed at what my little droid is now capable of.

Switched launcher to Launcher Pro and added MIUI Camera (in tandem) after having issues with the CM7 camera app. Other than that, no FC or even screen lag, which is more than I can say for the stock 2.2.1.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
from gb to froyo .. well u wont enjoy it ..

cuz the latest custom gb roms r quicker than froyomod .. i used the latest froyomod it was nuthing compared to cronosginger 1.4

but i still prefer miui1.63 cuz i get attracted to it cuz of its aesthetics n goodies ..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
If you want alot of apps in memory to the point of having no free memory while having a speedy phone, get a new phone.

r u srios?

Out of the box, only one gb rom is faster than froyomod (hono).
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
ive used the latest froyomod n i find cronos ginger 1.4.0 with pcphobics mods a much better experience and a better battery life as well even though running at 1ghz 60vsel without ur supercharging ..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
Maybe I'll take a look at how 1.4 supercharges as the prior 2 releases weren't quite refined.

Btw Akmo or other app settings aren't "mods", they are user settings.

If you change the volume level, that isn't a mod either.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
c i dint knw the technical stuff .. but as a user of milestone n how my phone responds to different roms thts how i decide which is good in terms of speed battery performance ..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bandroid842:
Hey!

Just Installed CM7 RC10. Quite brilliant. I have no complaints so far.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] vikramsinghrana:
in my experience,

MIUI has been the most satisfying ROM.

CM7 has been satisfying. remember it being snappy and sexier version of stock default on the milestone.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bandroid842:
It's just too iphone like. And too coloury! Are there themes? I might give it a go if it had a more discrete theme.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] skadude66:
Last week's update changed the status bar icons to simple black ones compared to what it used to be (GB signal + wifi). They also released a revision of their dark theme. Look in eybee's thread, SophT posted a link to it.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hearts king101:
I have many themes,

Just open Theme.apk, go online themes, download whatever U want. ;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Soxes:
I´ve got the FroyoMod 2.8.0c.

It´s running fast, perfect, no tearing and i have no bugs :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] petersteier:
I've tried

* MotoFrenzy till 0.5: Camera focus never worked. Back to stock 2.1 in Aug 22 2010

* CyanogenMod 6.1.0 RC0 for Milestone: Unfortunately, very unstable; the worst thing is that the phone app is not working in most cases: every second call lost (without message), crashes on hang up, ... Actually, I have to reboot before every outgoing call, and loose every second incoming call.

Go back to Android 2.1, though the Froyo features (especially the many bugfixes) are really valueable - however, at least the cyanogen mod adds much more bugs. back to stock 2.1 in Oct 22 2010.

* Nov 11 2010 - Jun 13 2011: G.O.T. 2.2.1:

not performant, strange bugs, no new releases available. However, I feel comfortable with the G.O.T. Rom. However, does not seem to go to deep sleep mode, I have to charge it often; I use "Tasker" to work around some bugs.

* Jun 13 2011 - Jul 24 2011: CyanogenMod 7

the WEB is not happy with the official Motorola 2.2, so I install CM 7 RC9, and update all few days till RC12. For me it seems just to laggy: there seems to be no multitaksing at all, background apps immediately die; additionally, the launcher of the AWD browser is annoying, since the icons are jerking around for several seconds, making it difficult to hit the right one. Navigon is stalling every 20 min or so, making it useless. I conclude Gingerbread is too bulky for Milestone's small RAM. Memory-hungry apps (like Camera Zoom FX) often make FCs. The only real advantage of Android 2.3 is the much improved copy&paste feature, which anyways does not cooperate well with most of the existig apps (especially if they are continuously killed when trying to use multitasking). [OFF TOPIC: Maybe the next-next Version of Android will manage copy@paste as good as the 1986 original MacIntosh did - with 1 MB RAM, if I remember correctly].

Wireless Tether is not worth the effort to install 2.3, because the Stock App does it so openly that almost all providers block it; "Wireless Tether for root users" and "PDAnet" do the same, and invisible to the provider. (Please look into the small print of your provider's licencing whether you use it legitimately).

Voice control did not work for me at all, maybe my articulation is inadequate (german and english).

* Jun 24 2011, hopefully until my Milestone retires: FroyoMod v2.9.1

I decide to go back to 2.2. CM6 (Froyo) for Milestone is unfortunately no longer supported by Nadlabak, who's jumped onto CM7, therefor I chose FroyoMod by 89luca89.

Actually, I'm impressed how smooth this mod runs [OFF TOPIC: install 2.9.0 first, otherwise no WiFi]. GPS, Navigon, WiFi, Camera Zoom FX, all much better and faster than in CM7 (and even in FroyoMod v2.7.0, BTW). May be partly a perception caused by the GoLauncher EX.

The philosophy to have a lean and fast system is probably perfect for milestone's small memory.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bandroid842:
Peter! Brilliant post!

Im now on CM7 RC11

While I'd rather use Froyo, I went to Gingerbread due to copy/paste and Arabic support. Only froyo option with Arabic Support is the APAC release, and has problems with App2SD, and I dont prefer App2Ext for particular reasons.

It starts out great, but once you add too many applications on it and too much syncing, it dies on you. Too laggy, too many redraws. I am now using Go Launcher, works quite well oddly. Code is VERY optimised. Since I need Arabic and Copy-Paste, Im gonna have to stand my ground and stay with CM7.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
CM6 is resurrected and is 10x faster than CM7!!! Try the one by milaq out. He's doign a wonderful job.

If you're tired of running out of memory in CM7 and having to reboot everyday, that's ridiculous. Go back to CM6. As someone who owns a 512mb device, I know what it's like to blaze through Gingerbread with no memory troubles. It's much easier to sit on Froyo instead on the Milestone. Plus, do you REALLY need GB features? The current CM6 is porting a LOT of CM7 features over, so you might just be satisfied. Plus, just theme your UI as Gingerbread, and I bet 80% of your wants for GB are satisfied :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Maxweell:
First i've used shadowmodbr, good rom, but the dev stopped dev'ing and we users got stuck with some bugs.

Second i would use CM7 RC7, i thought that the rom was great overall but had some buggy apps,most games not working with the low miles memory.

Third gone to FM 2.8.0b loved the speed(and the games were running), missed some personalizations on cm7 but the speed was awesome, but then again since the update to 2.9.1 and 2.9.2 for some reason i would suddenly stop receiving signal and i was of course unable to go on mobile network and making calls, i'm on CM7 RC11 and man, i miss that speed.

(Sorry about the bad english guy's, not my first language.)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mmota13:
Hi guys,

It's a simple question:

I scratched my X10 Mini LED Screen but i have an extended guarantee from my phone operator (where i bought the cellphone) with +1 year or whatever.

Will they change the LED Screen for free? Will they charge for it?

Another question is, my phone is all rooted and with mod (all dirty), will they accept changing the LED Screen? Or it must be stock? :rolleyes:

Thanks everyone! :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] juanfers:
As far as them replacing it for free depends on the terms on that extended warranty.

In regards to the OS, once you root you can say goodbye to the warranty. But you can always flash a stock rom and keep it unrooted if you decide to take it to the store.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mmota13:
I see... but they can change the LED Screen anyway if my OS is not stock right? It's a hardware problem not a software.. can they refuse to change my LED Screen because im not using SE stock OS? :confused:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] juanfers:
Yes they can refuse the change it.

Some companies see moddified firmware as if you physically modified the phone itself, hence a void warranty.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] necrohades:
as per your scratched screen getting replaced, please read the terms and conditions of your extended warranty.

as far as i know, most extended warranties only cover lost/stolen devices, accidental damages and such. meaning, superficial/external damages doesn't count. if your device works, it's as good as it gets: no replacement.

see what your extended warranty covers. it will save you the hassle of going to your local service center only to find out that they won't do that for you.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ruifung:
Before taking it to the service center, I'd suggest you reflash with SEUS. That way, they cant complain about the custom ROM.

EDIT: It's a LCD not a LED.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mmota13:
It was an accidental damage, but i see your point... :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] waleedy:
hi, which kernel is best for this device on 2.2 firmware?i dont want to damage 850mhz band,thnx 4 hlp
[Captivate Accessories] AdamOutler:
I needed some way to differentiate my dev phone from my daily phone. So, I grabbed some fusion plastic paint from Walmart. I scuffed the surface with a scotch-brite pad, then cleaned with 92% alcohol, then painted and applied clear-coat.

The paint also helps to hide the small crack I repaired next to the menu button.

I'll let you guys know how the paint holds up. What do you think?
[Captivate Accessories] Twicebak3d:
Oh that's nice. You have given me inspiration!

Makes me really want an Oreo though.....
[Captivate Accessories] TRusselo:
ive been tempted but, weary of paint scraping off and looking bad... I have some professional graffiti spray paint sitting around

let us know how long it lasts...

Ive also had an idea about painting the phone itself. by lightly sanding and using Nail Polish and a super hard Clear Coat
[Captivate Accessories] mwiz123:
Very cool dude awesome I thing I should try it blue and black
[Captivate Accessories] AReynante:
I definately want to try this now. Lol. I'm going red.
[Captivate Accessories] Captain Geezer:
Not a bad idea. Keep us posted as to how it survives. Will check back in 3 weeks
[Captivate Accessories] joe.nobody:
yeah that paint on the two 'nobs' is going to scrape off, then scratches on the front ring...
[Captivate Accessories] capocaccia:
Not if he goes and buys a quality clearcoat.

I mean, id even suggest going to autozone for automotive clear coat and using that. If you want it to really last, use a few coats.

EDIT: I should read the entire first post.
[Captivate Accessories] Time_Zone:
It looks good. Matches up with the colors from Andromeda.
[Captivate Accessories] boborone:
Nice. My friend has an otterbox for his iphone just like that.