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[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Sure, the problem is if you're trying to get it second-hand / full price like me, then you don't have the option of returning it. Either it's perfect or I'm f-ed. Big risk :(
[Nexus One General] tjhart85:
The first phone the data would sporadically work and for the rest of the time would say 'No Operator.'

The second phone had a defective 2G radio & would only work in areas with 3G/4G service (I assume 3G, the phone always showed 4G).

That would fall under the 'If you don't mind taking the chance' clause I threw in there :D. I would not be willing to pick up this phone used unless it was from someone I trusted pretty well or I could test it a bit. Maybe CraigsList or something & tell the guy you want to test it. Meet at McDonalds and have a meal with your SIM in it ... enable and disable 2G Only mode to verify that data functions properly in both 4G and 2G areas. Make a few calls, etc...

No matter what though, LG would still have to honor a warranty on it, you shouldn't be completely screwed, it's just more convenient to have a retailer to return it to rather than the manufacturer.
[Nexus One General] phburks:
I bought mine from someone on Craigslist before I read about the issues some people were having. I did try the phone with my SIM card though and used the phone for several minutes before I bought it. I guess I got lucky. I've had no hardware issues. I used stock rom for a couple days before rooting/flashing and i did experience a few software related glitches/quirks while running stock. Since rooting I've settled on the Ultimate G2X rom and haven't had any of the issues I was having on stock.
[Nexus One General] itslinx:
I've had the G2X for about 4 days now and I like it a lot. One thing I definitely miss is the trackball, lol. But I haven't had any issues with it yet and hopefully it stays that way.
[Nexus One General] hal752:
TBH don't belive what Sony Ericson.

Expect low call volume, Broken promises, Lies and a averege phone

I had the x10 from the realse date. We were promised 2.1, Got it late.. We were promised DLNA support.. Never got it. We were told no multitouch.. We got it in the end off sony ericson themselfs. Now were promised gingerbread.. Maybe time will repeat itself and brake this one.

I would go with the G2x
[Nexus One General] donutman:
Lmao what a fail. No dual core so it loses there. Does it even come with stock os? What about the developer support? I bet it doesn't come close to what the optimus2x has now. Sorry the arc loses to the g2.
[Nexus One General] hal752:
The x10 had alot off developers behind it. Looking at it know it has 1.6 all the way the 2.3.3 (also with the bootloader just being unlocked) Theres alot off potention to this year old phone.

It's sony ericson it will always have support behind it.
[Nexus One General] player911:
While I LOVE my nexus screen, the screens of the Galaxy line and the Nexus S all appear too blue and wierd. My friend has a Galaxy S from AT&T and I've tried to like the Nexus S several times, but the screens look blue. I have even been eyeballing the Galaxy 4G but the screen just turns me off.

On the other hand, my co-worker has a G2 and it only has a LCD but his pictures look amazing on it. Much more vivid then my Nexus.

The only thing is the new Super Amoled Plus which does away with the Penile display... so you'll have the brightness and the clarity.

My problem is getting rid of my Nexus One. Its just a beast and well made. I'd dropped the thing countless times and even once in the toilet and it just keeps on ticking. There are no visible signs of wear either. Just takes it and goes.

I have never had a phone take this kind of beating and look this amazing.

While I'm leaning on the G2X for the Tegra chipset, I think I'll hold out until the SGS2 comes out and compare the 2.
[Nexus One General] jerichoholic:
Are you able to have this phone in direct sunlight and still be able to see it?

I know on the G2X you can.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
If I can see my Nexus One in the sun, I'm assuming I'll be able to see this as well. Of course I won't lie, it has to be on full brightness. A TFT LCD screen that is viewable in the sun isn't worth the downgrade. Also, according to oled-info.com "The thickness of the touch sensor is just 0.001mm (!) this allows the screen to provide better images and to have great visibility even in direct sunlight (Samsung says that they perform 20% better than regular touch AMOLED outdoors)." So everything should be fine.

Yea, but the new SAMOLED Plus uses 50% more sub-pixels, offering a much more clearer display. It also uses a typical RGB matrix, rather than a pentile matrix. Giving us much more clear text. However I'm going to stop posting now, I don't want to seem as if I'm trying to bash the GX2 and make the SGSII seem like this amazing super-phone. It isn't necessary, especially since there is an entire section dedicated to this phone. I don't want to appear as if I'm a troll.
[Nexus One General] jerichoholic:
I can not get behind the build quality of Samsung's products whatsoever.
[Nexus One General] donutman:
The g2x has gorilla glass. If you don't know what that is, youtube it. No more screen protectors!!
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
G2X has that ridiculously long bottom and no notification lights =-(.
[Nexus One General] donutman:
If anyone is one the fence, my main man Cy just confirmed he'll be getting the g2x next.

https://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/56817197850427392
[Nexus One General] bigmout:
I like the longer bottom. I'm always worried I'll drop my N1 when I try to use the phone one-handed and press the capacitive buttons with my thumb.
[Nexus One General] Fernanernie:
I'm on the fence with this one myself. Just in case, not going to sell my N1 until I've put some miles on the G2x. FM radio? Finally I can ditch my old mp3 player
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
How come you haven't rooted your Nexus and flashed a ROM with FM radio included? It has been around for a while~
[Nexus One General] rori~:
I don´t believe, there´s still an unrooted NexusOne out there :)
[Nexus One General] :
Fits is getting the G2x to develop also

Seems like the one to get for TMO users--but how do you live with no notification lights and a Trackball :)

If we keep our N1's till year end, there will be phones out that put the G2x to shame--but, can one wait :)
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
It'll be really hard to give up the RGB notification... Trackball is a great way to do it (you can see it from anywhere, any angle) but I could live with it not having a physical trackball.

I'll keep my N1 for a while yet. :)
[Nexus One General] jacindc:
I know of at least one. :)
[Nexus One General] rori~:
gorilla glas is easy to scratch with a little stone :)

it only protects you against metall....so I would still use a screen protector.
[Nexus One General] donutman:
I love the trackball also but sooner or later we will have to make the switch. How many new phones coming out have a trackball or dpad?
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
literally there are zero phones coming that have notification OR trackpad. i'd at least accept it if teh trackpad was gone and notification light was present. but these manuf are not giving ANY of it.

the G2 has a white blinking light with trackpad, that's about it.
[Nexus One General] player911:
I dunno. After Cyanogen saying he's jumping to one and all the video's... I'm starting to really like this guy.

$250 out the door then a 2 year contract?? I think I might just buy it out right and sell the Nexus One :(

The back has a matte finish which is +1.

G2X + CM7 = upgrade

Stock 2.2 = meh
[Nexus One General] onesavior:
Unfortunately I think I will be switching too, Not because I want to but because of my power button not working which I know I can fix but for how long will it stay fixed. And now today my USB won't charge correctly. And its just time for a new one. I've had her since she came out. Just seems like good timing...*plays dust in the wind*
[Nexus One General] player911:
Allright.... heh eh
[Nexus One General] jerichoholic:
Oh my where did you aquire this from?!
[Nexus One General] player911:
on a really weird site while researching the G2X.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-g2x-next-in-line-for-cyanogenmod-7-i-think-so-pics-included-20110411/

If this weren't an LG I'd be somewhat interested. I've been screwed by LG multiple times in the past and have no interest in giving them any more money.
[Nexus One General] pakraider:
Well, so much for the G2X.. it looks like the HTC Sensation is going to be the way to go. The new Sense looks amazing, dare I say!
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
But, no 4G?? Locked down like moto???
[Nexus One General] pakraider:
Being locked down is a concern, but we'll have to wait and see. Honestly, the new Sense looks pretty darned good to be honest as it is, but it's always fun to have control over it. :)

As for "no 4G", well call me crazy, but max 14Mbps HSPA+ is more than adequate for me; I don't even get those speeds on my cable modem. The phone doesn't have AT&T's HSPA bands though, and that might be cause for concern since no one knows how long AT&T would let HSPA stay alive on AWS post-merger.
[Nexus One General] jerichoholic:
4.3 is entirely too big for me im sure the battery life will be screwed
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
I can understand the the thought process behind no trackpad on larger screen phones...but no notification lights ?? Its mind numbing and massively annoying.

RGB trackball alerts + trackballs in succession means not having to constantly check to see who or what your message is IF you even have one.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
With the Sensation being dual core AND qHD, it's looking like a dream phone.

Other than the question of whether the Sensation is hackable or not, is there any reason to go for the G2x? It even comes with 2.3, rather than 2.2 like on the G2x.

Or to put it another way, let's say both phones were running CM7 and were the same price. Why choose the G2x?
[Nexus One General] sstang2006:
The only thing I see the Sensation low internal storage, we will need to partition the SD card again. And I don't know how the 1.2 Snapdragon will compare to the Tegra 2.
[Nexus One General] JimSocks:
not sure if sensation has at&t radio though. all reviews so far only says tmobile.
[Nexus One General] ericc191:
Here's the way I see it,

G2x will be out a good 2 months before the Sensation is released. I've been waiting almost half a year since I sold my n1 for the g2 (big mistake) and now I've been stuck on a horrible g1. So time is definitely a factor. Next, I feel HTC cuts too many corners and I'm tired of people praising them for build quality. I dunno about you guys but my n1 had a crappy screen with no MT, tin can speaker, and the most annoying back cover creaking ever. And don't even get me started on the G2s build quality.

Now I'm not saying the LG will be amazing. I honestly don't know, but it's worth giving them a shot. I know it's blazing fast from all the YouTube bids (G2X) and ill def notice the dif coming from using a g1.

Also, the tegra 2 will prob be oced to 1.2ghz after a few weeks.
[Nexus One General] peacekeeper05:
I still prefer g2x than sensation. 4.3 inch screen is too big for me. And i know i can easily OC my tegra to 1200 mhz. The g2x's ips display is still the best non-amoled screen ive seen so i dont care much if it is not qHD. Sense is a big memory hugger anyways
[Nexus One General] sl8125:
Let's wait and see. G2X was announced as AWS. When its submitted to FCC we will find out. Cross my fingers. Anyhow I really don't think you can go with either phone tegra 2 is a monster. However I hear that the new snapdragon processor and new gpu is more optimized pair. That's what I read somewhere but don't quote me on that. They both are a good upgrade from my n1. Tough choices but as you all know its all about development. N1 got Alot of love by dev. Will G2X get gte same love? I know sensation will. Somehow there a lot more HTC fan boys or devs. Counting me in that. Whatever they both really really nice. I be happy with either one.
[Nexus One General] wang1404:
G2x is up for pre order with $50 off on wirefly right now. Shipping april 20th .
[Nexus One General] SBERG117:
Because that would mean that someone bought the best dev phone ever made and actually used it for its intended purpose..........On top of that coming to best dev site to comment about the phone they did nothing with although all the info is right here at their fingertips....:confused::confused::D:D
[Nexus One General] cqms13:
count me in too:D

Have any devs expressed any interest in getting the sensation?

c'mon - calling all devs out there - pin your colours to the mast:p

G2X or Sensation ?

Or something different that we dont know about yet???
[Nexus One General] peacekeeper05:
G2x for me. Sensation is too big.
[Nexus One General] pakraider:
A lot of the big boys in dev are going for the G2x / Optimus 2X.. including Cyanogen, Paul O'Brien from modaco, AmonRA, etc.

Haven't heard of any devs opting for the Sensation yet, because it will have an encrypted bootloader so might be tough.
[Nexus One General] gimiento:
Except that the Thunderbolt was rooted and CM7 is being ported (or was). Its hard to imagine the Sensation not getting some love from the devs.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Are you sure about that?

Remember that rooting is not all that's needed to load custom ROMs. It's only one step in the process.
[Nexus One General] Jesushasadroid:
Paul. What are going with and what are using now. G2x looks nice. sensation looks looks a beast
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I'm still using my N1 :)

And my contract actually ended in March.

However, I've been using my Nook Color (running CM7) for the past few months and rarely use my phone that much anymore, so I find it

very

difficult to justify a new phone purchase hehe :eek: :eek: My N1 has basically become a wifi-hotspot and car/walking around podcast-player :cool: Other than that, I use my NC most of the time. So how do I justify a new phone purchase, aside from tech-spec envy? :eek: :D

As to G2x vs Sensation, I'm waiting on:

A) Final benchmarks for Tegra 2 vs 1.2 GHz Snapdragon (Adreno 220??)

B) How hackable each device is (I want to run CM7).​

If anyone knows answers to either one, I'd love to know :)
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
it looks like the thunderbolt did get full root and bootloader unless i'm reading the forum wrong. but that's no guarantee that upcoming HTC phones won't be harder, different, unlockable, etc. shame HTC, going against the exact thing that got you to where you are now:(
[Nexus One General] crachel:
Thunderbolt is full root, S-OFF, with CWM recovery and CM is slated for possible 7.1 release as 4G was just enabled by the couple of devs working on it
[Nexus One General] tr.slate:
Its on anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2
[Nexus One General] sstang2006:
I just sold my Nexus S. Now, I have to live for couple of days without a phone. :mad::mad:
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
But on the other hand, the Incredible S has not seen an S-OFF soft exploit yet. It seems that CDMA-based HTC phones have been easier for getting radio S-OFF. So perhaps with HTC's latest encryption on their newest phones, a more apt comparison is the Incredible S.
[Nexus One General] lance713:
Go to T-Mobile, they might give you a loaner phone.

That nokia 5300 I had crapped out on me and they offered me a loaner phone... some kinda crappy LG flip w/ the LEDs on the front.

All they needed was a $50 deposit... which I'll get back in full when I return the phone.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
mmmm sounds like friday i will be boarding the g2x bus... i cant wait to have a phone that has a touch screen that actually functions properly... while i have loved my time with my nexus, i am so ready to move on to bigger (4 inch screen) and better (touch responsiveness) things...
[Nexus One General] pakraider:
the resolution bothers me a bit about the G2x.. coming from a Nexus One, won't things look a bit more dull / less sharp because of the same resolution being blown up onto a bigger screen? I remember seeing a friend's EVO and thought it looked somewhat 'blurry'.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
no, the evo had a particular blurry screen problem. but the inspire for example looks sharp as ever and its screen is huge. i think you'd be fine.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I've seen this article but it's not a true demonstration of what thinks will look like for the Sensation. For one, these benchmarks are a 1.5 GHz rather than the 1.2 that will be in the Sensation.

As well, the test device used in this article isn't a real device and has some stipulations:

Benchmarks and performance may look quite different for the final shipping version of the Sensation.
[Nexus One General] britoso:
If I had to choose between the two (my nexus one seems good for atleast another year)...

Specs:

HTC Sensation

LG G2x

I would get the G2x for these reasons:

- Tegra2 uses less battery

- Tegra2 has better GPU performance

- Dont need the very nice, but big screen on the sensation. Have a tablet/laptop for that.

- HDMI port
[Nexus One General] player911:
I've watched the G2X compared to the SGS2 in games and the G2X is amazing. And knowing that Qualcomm says one thing but does another. Usually the issue with Qualcomm is improper support using their drivers. So while technically it may be able to keep up with the big boys, the end results in it falling on its face.

Qualcomm has always had issues in the graphics department. I wouldn't hold my breath until I actually see a phone producing these numbers.
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
Also if you are a T-Mo US customer... AFAIK the Sensation will support AWS 3G but not 850/1900. If you are expecting the T&A-Mobile merger to go through, you may miss out on the ability to access AT&T 3G during&after the transition period (and if the merger fails T-Mo may end up with a 3G roaming agreement!). The G2x is quad-band 850/AWS/1900/2100 on the other hand.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
do we know that tegra has better power requirements? i havent seen it yet. i always assumed qualcomm had the power efficieny down better than most others.
[Nexus One General] britoso:
thats what nvidia says, it does outlast the nexus one while running circles around it too :) oh the grandkids these days....

See http://www.anandtech.com/show/4144/...ra-2-review-the-first-dual-core-smartphone/15 for a decent review
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Starting to lean toward the G2x with Tegra2, 4" size screen, quad band, HDMI, availability now, and XDA Dev support. Might have to give LG a chance over HTC this time!
[Nexus One General] Jesushasadroid:
That's funny. I have the nook and I love it. Gotta put cm7 on it.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
are you running the honeycomb version on it? I am curious about getting one since they are cheap lol
[Nexus One General] donutman:
Well for starters, the battery life. You should get to use the wifi hotspot longer before the battery dies. And if you live in a 4g area, you get much faster speeds. If any of that makes a difference to you.
[Nexus One General] tr.slate:
So I just got off a chat with T-mob, and they are saying that the cheapest plan they offer on the g2x is $79 p/m. Right now I am out of contract on my old G1 plan that only ran $59 and am not interested in paying an extra 20 spot a month.

Anyone know if I can just buy the g2x outright and stick the sim from the nexus in there? As long as it would work on 3g im cool with that. If it could get 4g also, it would be better, but something make me think T-mobs 4g stuff uses a different sim than we do in our nexus'.

Can anyone confirm if the sim is the same or a different style than the nexus one?
[Nexus One General] sstang2006:
It uses the same SIM card. I had the G2 (4g) and always used the same SIM card same even more plus plan (59.99). I think rep. didn't know what he was talking about when he/she said that the cheapest plan is $79.

Edit: Actually if you want unlimited text & data (suppose you do) the lowest plan on contract (even more plan) it is $79. But you can buy it outright (which is what im going to do) and get the even more plus plan.
[Nexus One General] jerichoholic:
im in at 69.99p/m with 1000 minutes unlimited text and web and my bills come out to 80 something bucks after the rest of some BS fees...its not worth switching over for those rates sometimkes
[Nexus One General] tr.slate:
Yeah, time to just buy contract free and keep my even more plus plan. Im a cheap bastard, and even $59 seems like a lot since i rarely call anyone, or use data. Im mostly just on the wifis.

If the att deal goes through im inventing two tin cans and a string powered by android. Cant imagine att being any cheaper.
[Nexus One General] player911:
Yup, $500.

I'm not in a contract either so thats probably what I'll do... although I pay $69.

The new contract plans lower the monthly data transfer from 5gb to 2gb. Stick to the 5gb a month at the lower rate.

It's $250 on contract with a $50 MIR which you probably won't get back because of some weird stipulation. Just pay $500. $250 difference @ $20 a month = 12 months.

So in 12 months you'd be saving $20 every month and not on a contract.
[Nexus One General] sstang2006:
exactly what i did 30 minutes ago. Too bad for the $20 express shipping doh
[Nexus One General] tr.slate:
Think i might just go with the eee transformer with kb instead. Had a xoom, but didnt love the hardware. Or maybe find a g2x on craigslist after a bit. But damn i hate the n1 touch screen so much.

Decisions decisions.
[Nexus One General] phewizzo:
As the G2x is a great phone. I will not rush to get it when I know if i wait 2 more months I can get something with better specs and hardware then the G2X. The benchmarks on the Sensation i believe is bull**** and is not running at full potential as it will be when it is released. And if it is the case and the dual qualcomm is no good I can still fall back on the Galaxy S 2 that will also have a 1.2 ghz Tegra 2. Im really looking for a better resolution screen the Sensation offers.
[Nexus One General] tr.slate:
Not sure about the t2 in the galaxy s2. Everything ive read insinuated that the t2 version will be in "select markets" which i am taking to be outside the states. I think we get the exynos (sic?)

version.

Xdamn i hate thi,s n1 m

ultitouc.

Glitc. H. F t hi,s , hitty. Di. g iti,zer
[Nexus One General] vegetaleb:
optimus 2x is a failure!

The camera is 8mp but the N1 takes better photos

You barely can hear the ringtones :eek:

Dev are beginning to leave its scene for SGS2 and ARC l
[Nexus One General] josemedina1983:
Im not feeling the plastic design nor the camera quality and speakers quality. As far as the pyramid the design is alot like the nexus just with sense. I still think dual cores are still green not enough games out there and not good enough battery power to comfortably play without charging after 7hr. But i think is a solid safe device to buy and I would buy it if i wasnt waiting to see what nokia and wp7 have coming.
[Nexus One General] player911:
Funny because AndroidandMe.com say, "Overall, I would say the LG Optimus 2X offers the best camera of any Android smartphone I have used"

http://androidandme.com/2011/01/phones/hands-on-the-lg-optimus-2x-camera/

Low Ringtones are not any different then the N1 now. I think CM7 fixes that though.
[Nexus One General] youngpic48:
I had an N1 and bricked it. Bought an SGS and loved it. But I always wanted my N1 back. So I bought another one. Its what I use daily. The other phones I have are just a collection of different phones. Including an Optimus One and Galaxy Spica i5700 and this Desire S. Facebook is buggy on this phone.
[Nexus One General] player911:
I just picked one up. I had a $400 equipment line of credit so I just paid $100 out of pocket and $20 a month.

I chose regular shipping and it says delivery date is 4/18 ie. Monday.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
really? where are you seeing this? i didnt know but would like to confirm...,