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[HTC Desire S] crubbish:
easy fix?

Not sure if this has already been mentioned but there's a stock setting that can enable Desire S to hold Wi Fi connection a lot better. Go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Wi-Fi settings. Click menu button and choose Advanced. Second section from the top is "Best Wi-Fi performance" - tick it. That's it. It really made the difference for me. Dropped Wi Fi signal was a frequent thing with my Desire S but ever since I've ticked this option (~1 week ago) I haven't had such problem at all.
[HTC Desire S] Numline1:
Sounds like stock setting for the hack mentioned earlier. I'll try when I get home, ty.
[HTC Desire S] Edward Lowy:
I tried this Advanced setting - it made no material difference to the ability of the DS to hold the wifi signal. I don't think any software will fix this design flaw.

Have swapped the DS for an Incredible S, no wifi problems at all
[HTC Desire S] gtg465x:
It's definitely a software problem and enabling best wifi performance in settings does not have the same effect as the fix I posted. How do I know? We are running Desire S ROMs on the Desire HD and have this same problem with wifi dropping. For those who have the problem, enabling best wifi performance typically does not help them much. After applying my fix, all is well.
[HTC Desire S] Numline1:
Is it reported to HTC already? :)
[HTC Desire S] gtg465x:
No
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
I'm sure HTC know abt it... they are just pretending to ignore it though! Hopefully a software patch willcome as DHD users with Desire s' roms have the same problem..
[HTC Desire S] jtra:
I have only original HTC Desire. But it has same problem.

When I wrap my hand tightly around the top part of the phone, the wifi attenuates by up to 20dB (as seen in Wifi Analyzer). I have played with HTC Desire S in HTC shop and it seemed the Desire S was same in this regard.

Maybe people are holding the Desire S more in left hand since they would accidentally activate sensor buttons by holding with right hand in landscape mode.
[HTC Desire S] Edward Lowy:
Had a Desire for about a year, never had a single wifi issue.

Got the Desire S, within the first hour or provisioning it at my office desk, wifi dropped out continuously.

Swapped the DS for an Incredible S, no wifi problems at all.

Desire S - lovely phone, wifi unusable for me. Whilst I defer to the knowledge of other Forum members, firmly believe this is a hardware design issue that will not be fixed by software.

Edward
[HTC Desire S] gtg465x:
:confused: Sigh... It's already been fixed by software. The fix is here in this very thread.
[HTC Desire S] Edward Lowy:
I am familiar with the whole thread and your advice "Fixing the issue (experienced devs only)"

For a substantial number of people buying a Desire S, I think your fix will be beyond them. I have zero faith in HTC fixing this, along the line of them "fixing" the sleep of death they introduced to a variety of WM6.5 ROMs that particularly afflicted the Touch Pro 2.

If you say it is software, then I'm pleased, but from my own experience of the TyTn2, Touch Pro2, Desire, Desire S, Desire Z and Desire HD, it is very apparent to me that the DS has a "grip of death" that renders it useless for me in either home or work wifi environments, with no realistic fix available to me. I certainly would not buy a Desire S in the hope that HTC will fix it and think that the DS should carry a WiFi Health Warning.

On that basis I would rate the devices :

Desire : Snog

Incredible S : Marry

Desire S : Avoid
[HTC Desire S] Madrenergic:
I believe you may have misconstrued gtg465x's intentions here. He's not berating you for not implementing the fix yourself. I'm pretty sure he knows quite well that a lot of phones are S-ON, and hence cannot implement the fix. All he did was to tell you that root of the problem is a poorly-scripted line of code, and he is showing you proof of how he fixed it, thus disproving your belief that it was "a hardware design issue that will not be fixed by software".

While this issue is nowhere as absurd as Apple's terribly designed antenna, I agree it's a regrettable flaw in the phone, and shame on HTC for letting their quality control slip. Nonetheless, please don't fault others for trying to help. What we need to do now is to inform HTC about this issue so that they can get an update out, pronto.
[HTC Desire S] Edward Lowy:
No problem - as I have said, I would be pleased if this is a software problem, but I have no faith in HTC fixing it, and gtg465x's fix is way beyond most people. I am certainly not faulting gtg, kudos to him for trying to get around the problem and sharing his findings.

Time will tell if it is software or hardware - I have cast my vote by returning the DS immediately as it is unusable on wifi for me, and I hope my experiences may be of use to potential purchasers of the DS.

Kind regards

Edward
[HTC Desire S] amonrei:
A little test i did at home.

Hand holding the bottom of the phone.

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3 fingers holding the top of the phone. 1 left 1 top 1 right 2 right bottom with left hand. Note the signal bar on top still full bar.

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I just put the phone on my palm and...

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[HTC Desire S] feyd1980:
I have both Desire (though Desire has the latest Radio ROM and Redux ROM applied) and Desire S (with SENSE) and my comparative analysis:

Desire simply has better WIFI reception. I am using WIFI analyser on both of them and Desire easily has 10 to 15 decibels better reception when I use the device normally in portrait mode. Both actually drops with almost equal amount when I grab the top half, the difference seems to be because Desire S starts with a worse reception from the get go.
[HTC Desire S] gtg465x:
Which is why I posted a super easy flashable fix in the dev section. You guys just need to wait for an S-OFF method so you can use it. I'm sure someone will figure it out soon.
[HTC Desire S] jazzaddict:
I'm pretty sure there is a problem with the antenna design. When using the desire S in a landscape manner, WiFi reception dropped considerably. The antenna is embedded in the rubberised plastic housing where the camera and led flash is at.
[HTC Desire S] Numline1:
Srsly ppl, do you have problem reading?
[HTC Desire S] nehasharma:
yes the problem is with the software.........almost all Incredible S users with gingerbread update have reported problems with wifi reception.........it is as bad as the Desire S............one guy even made a comparison and found both the IS and the DS are dropping wifi signals equally.............this is a huge relief.......atleast there is no hardware issue
[HTC Desire S] Monkeybrew:
I made a comparison between IS and DS, and I can confirm that IS is now after the GB update dropping the wifi-signal at a higher signal strength, just like the DS.

However, the DS has a bit of a hardware issue too, since it more easily loses signal strength when held in a "death grip".

So the IS still has better wi-fi reception, but the gap is smaller now when both phones are running 2.3.
[HTC Desire S] jtra:
I have seen somebody report a case with three Desire S phones, one of them have had wifi issues, others did not have it. (in Czech here: http://androidforum.cz/htc-desire-2-t11325-240.html#p188335 )

So it could be manufacturing problem. Maybe wifi antenna is not properly assembled in some phones.

Another note: death grip is not an issue specific to Desire S - I can observe it on my classic Desire too. When I wrap my hand around the top part of the phone (landscape or not, that doesn't matter), I see about 15dB signal strength drop in Wifi Analyzer app. Issue on Desire S could be caused by overall worse signal reception.

So cause might be due to body design or possibly by OS version, also in landscape mode Desire S sensor buttons and smaller chin may force people to hold it tighter by left hand (unlike on original Desire with hardware buttons).
[HTC Desire S] Numline1:
Just because all users don't report this issue doesn't mean it is hardware issue, some of them may just have better router or signal str. I think it is rather suspicious that Incredible S never had this problem and it started just after software issue.
[HTC Desire S] Madrenergic:
Guys, please read the previous posts in the thread. The dropping of the Wi-Fi connection is a software issue, not a hardware one. There is a software fix out there.

For the matter, covering any antenna will always attenuate the strength of any signal. We cannot change the laws of physics. However, the fact that this leads to the complete termination of the Wi-Fi connection instead of simply reducing the strength of the Wi-Fi signal is attributed to a software bug.
[HTC Desire S] Mister_H:
Post 0

Hi there folks, this is my first post here, so please be kind!

I'm experiencing this problem on my Desire S (from Vodafone) too

I thought you'd like to know that Vodafone UK have just pushed out Gingerbread to their branded Desire HDs (ahead of the stock DHDs) & people who have updated are experiencing wifi issues as well. It looks to me that it's a software issue in (all of?) HTC's Gingerbread roms!

I've kicked off a thread on VF's forum referring to this one, asking them to inform HTC. Hopefully HTC will take notice before they go & mess up the wifi on all their devices!
[HTC Desire S] pepejose:
hi! (sorry for my english)

I like very much the HTC Desire S but I'm getting a little crazy and paranoid about the issue of wi-fi

doing a search on youtube for example, there are video and mobile video content from different devices that depending on where you pick if you touch the antenna lose coverage / wi-fi, in part, understand that it is normal?

youtube mobile death grip results (htc, samsung...)

HTC responds to HD7 death grip reports

what does htc about this problem?

I have not yet bought the mobile phone due to my concern with this problem

thanks ...
[HTC Desire S] king_elino:
about the wifi problems. it's software.

the customize rom in development room solve this problem. but you must s-off your phone first.

i think HTC will do an update of this problem, just wait :)
[HTC Desire S] Edward Lowy:
Just wanted to come back on this. My apologies to you gtg465x, it would seem that changing the wifi threshold is indeed a feature of Gingerbread.

However, I have now upgraded my Incredible S to 2.3.3, and it does not have the same wifi problems that the Desire S had.

To recap, I got a Desire S, provisioned it at my desk where my Desire had worked perfectly for a year. Desire S incapable of holding a wifi signal at that same location.

Swapped the DS for an IS, provisioned the IS at my desk, no wifi problems at all with Gingerbread.

My conclusions :

1 I accept that either Google or HTC have changed the wifi threshold and this can be changed back if you have the software skills to do so. I do not have those skills

2 Design of the DS, in my experience, means that it suffers very bad wifi signal reduction when the rear aerial is in contact with anything. In my experience, just having the DS on my desk was enough to lose signal. Picking it up was even worse.

I would not personally be able to recommend the DS. Even if HTC issue a software patch, the hardware design issue will be more difficult to overcome for existing owners. I do not expect to spend £400 on a phone and then have to attach bits of tin foil to it to try and get a wifi signal!
[HTC Desire S] kartikk:
hmm...

can you explain to me what you mean by the design of the DS cause from what i know the signal is attenuated no matter what if your hand or any other object is in the way

(just curious as i dont understand what the design flaw is ...)

& the phone is not £400 in all places of the world...in India its only £310 which i would say is a good price

but i have to agree £400 is a high price for this device cause for just a bit more you can get a dual-core phone
[HTC Desire S] adridu59:
loveboatcaptain applied gtg465x fix plus other fixes to his custom ROM, you should look at his thread for further informations
[HTC Desire S] Numline1:
This is very strange. I have to hold my phone and cover it all with my hands to lose WiFi when I am in my room (few meters away from router) but when there was about 20 meters distance, I just put my finger at upper side (in landscape) and it instantly lost 2 or 3 bars...
[LG Optimus 2x] zerocoolriddler:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=903507

Is this possible for our 2x too?

I had a Samsung Galaxy Spica and after this Mod I/O Score in Quadrant went up from 1100 to 1800.

Apps like Twitter, Gmail, Estrong File Explorer,... were working much faster.
[LG Optimus 2x] paulobrien:
I'll check it out!

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[LG Optimus 2x] kresten:
nice - thank you!
[LG Optimus 2x] paulobrien:
Hmmm, the quoted values don't appear in the binary... :(

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[LG Optimus 2x] zerocoolriddler:
Maybe you´ll need to recompile it.:confused:
[LG Optimus 2x] paulobrien:
Yep, just managed to recompile a working version. Testing now. ;)

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[LG Optimus 2x] paulobrien:
Ooh, consistently hitting 300+ on quadrant with this tweak! :D

Now online to download in this post... :)

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[LG Optimus 2x] paulobrien:
This is with all my ton of crap installed and running on the device too....!

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[LG Optimus 2x] heavyhms:
Works also with stock rom v10a?
[LG Optimus 2x] paulobrien:
Yes, should work with any ROM.

P
[LG Optimus 2x] hikkifans:
Oh my god Paul, this rocks! Works perfectly with your FR7! Now quadrant mark is over 3200 without overclock, crazy!
[LG Optimus 2x] utp:
Strange, was I missing something?

I can apply the zip var CWM, boot without problem, but the mark drop from 2541 to 2513...

I am on stock, 10A, build.prop stated ro.build.date.utc=1299570033
[Networking] sallal:
Hi,

as there are no threads about this (i havent found anything), i will post a new one.

my main question is: is it possible to get a wifi connection on your phone and share this connection at the same time through wifi (so you get a wifi hotspot or whatever)? (android, windows mobile, windows phone -> whatever, got a HD2)

it works on multiple computers with windows 7, but i never got how to do that with ma HD2.

hopefully,

sallal

EDIT: forgot the [Q] thing, sry
[Networking] sallal:
as no one replies ;)

#push
[Networking] ARMarlowe:
they're are many apps that can do this, just search WIFI tether in the market (android), IDK about WM7 though.

For android you can also run CM7 which has tethering built into it. I use it and it works like a charm, it's fast too. :)
[Networking] polpettone2:
Sorry for my question ,but with this program i can use my tablet as a router?

I have 3G so i can use this connection for internet and WIFI for make my tablet a router?
[Networking] papabear:
the app allows you to "tether"/use your device as a router. SO yes.
[Networking] prabhat:
The are CMInternetSharing package that is used to share internet connection from a Mobile (that we get using GPRS/3G) as a WiFi Router to others...

If you have a WiFi Connection that your mobile is consuming then what is the need for re-sharing same connection from mobile?

Let me know if I am not sure about the question :confused:

Thanks.
[Networking] Fantastic.Ergo:
Am no expert but i think this is true...

A wireless device can either be used as a client or as a router, you would need 2 wireless interfaces to do what you are looking for. When the tether apps start they configure your wireless interface as a router... I dont believe it can be running as both types at once.

but you most defenetly could use your 3g or whatever cell signal you have and offer it thru a wifi interface, you must have root access.

Cheers
[Networking] marlonmelieste:
maybe there is a way

you could switch the wifi with a 3g lookalike so 3g uses your wifi and then download a wifi tether i am looking for this quit a time and i diddn't found anything but this is al theory
[Networking] Emacore:
I do it with a stock app of my device, it's calls "3g mobile's wifi point"

@Motorola Milestone 2
[Networking] sallal:
hmm that would be a thing i should look at...

i always used on windows 7 "connectify me", a program made for taking wireless internet connection or LAN and sharing it at the same time as a router.

the virtual wifi miniport is used for this i suppose.

maybe there is something like the virtual miniport to manage in windows mobile or android?
[Networking] StarLog:
I use one from the XDA forums, search for wifi router

It works great on my HD2 with WINMO
[Networking] mvmsk:
sir,i have already mentioned.....try "mhotspot" easily converts ur lap/pc into wifi hotspot(n/w will be detected by android mobiles,worked for my ACE) its better than connectify because..we dont need to install it..and soo we can over come protocol related problems and system instability issues
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Syndacate:
I'm very new to android dev, not new to dev in general, though.

I hear ROMs being talked about quite frequently, not sure if I'll get into it, can't seem to find an address of the specific issue:

- What is a ROM?

In the sense, is it the entire OS? Is it the OS + UI? Does it include local apps & contact storage? Like, obviously apps and contacts wouldn't be read-only, but typically ROM means PROM (or some variation (EPROM/EEPROM/FROM, whatever), so I take it with a grain of salt.

From what I gather it's the entire OS + UI, and that's all? But I'm not sure.

Also, is there ways to replace specific parts of the ROM? Ie. Say I want to make modifications to the thread scheduler but I don't want it to touch some of the reliant modules..is it possible to just drop in a new scheduler by overwriting part of the binary image? Or are these things whole-sale?

Reason simply being is I don't like the idea of some random ass ROM that somebody cooked up with god knows how much OS exp controlling everything, as it's a binary it's not like you can crack it open and diff it or anything...or there's no official forks or branches to look at, y'know? Do people just "trust" all these ROM modders/creators?

Sorry for the over-abundance of questions :-X
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Syndacate:
Oh my god it's already on page 7...bump...?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] navdra:
Take a look at cyanogen mod. It comes with the source which you can fork if you'd like.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] NeoA:
ROM - its the entire visible OS that you tend to interact on your phone + the kernel (shipping just the ROM would be useless). Its pretty much every software that you need to get your work done on the phone. You may chose to install additional's but thats just accessorizing your phone. Its called ROM since once you install the OS image over the phone, the region of sd-card is generally marked read-only & you are not expected to make changes to it (concisely /system partition & also /data where the OS can do write operations but again, there are exceptions to this rule too in custom ROMs).

As for Custom ROMS, they are generally forked of the AOSP except for the little nuances the rom maker's add to them (mostly those changes are in form of theme, few apps here & there, icons, wallpapers). I think your question is more specific to custom kernel instead because thats the entity which help/harm your device.

For that, I would suggest you to pick a particular custom release (such as Netarchy, popular for Nexus S)

& read over their change-logs. The kernel devs generally do a great job of maintaining those logs precisely. The initial fork of their kernel too comes from AOSP to which they add specific features such

as ext4 fix a.k.a Turboboost, Voodoo color & sound enhancement, BLN & odd.

Hope I have allayed some of your fears regarding customs software.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Syndacate:
Thanks.

Yeah, I just get nervous installing an OS/Kernel blindly.

Changing themes would be nice, and I'd like the ability to do so without dropping in a ROM that can potentially have changes made to the Kernel. I don't like the fact that the ROM encompasses EVERYTHING, therefore it's coupled to the fact that you need a different ROM regardless of what you change.

It should be modular enough that you can modify themes without flashing an entire OS onto it.

Also, what's the chances that if a ROM install fails, you can re-load it (ie. what are the chances of you bricking your phone)? I don't have time for that.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rockstarar:
Next to none if you make a nandroid, which is a backup.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Syndacate:
It says that only works for the G1.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Syndacate:
I completely forgot to ask, apps should stay, right?

I mean they're all in user land, shouldn't have anything to do with the ROM nor actual OS....right? (probably wrong... :()
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] infoensim:
Hi all,

I dabble in security, so my reason for taking up Android programming was mainly to see what kind of information I could pull out of a Android-based smartphone.

Getting information like Device ID, SIM no., preferred networks and such, turned out to be fairly simple, but when I got to trying to read the settings of the phone, I hit a roadblock. For the life of me, I can not seem to figure out where to get those settings from.

What I want to get from the phone, is stuff like this:

Is the lock-pattern/PIN enabled?

Is the SIM PIN enabled?

Is GPS on? (this was quite simple for bluetooth, but apparently not so for GPS)

Does the phone allow installation of 3rd party software.

...and settings of that nature. I would think this was a simple matter of getting some kind of "settings" object, and then read the various variables, but so far, this object eludes me.

Any and all ideas are welcome.

Best regards
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peurifoyd:
Has anyone tried playing that backbreaker football game that was free on amazons appstore yesterday? It loads great then once i start to actually, play the screen just goes black but im still "playing". Anyone know why that may be? And or how i could possibly fix it. Fun game on my DX though.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheKaz:
This was answered in another thread. You need the HD version, which was not free.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peurifoyd:
Thanks for the reply and I do apologize for the re threaded question. Can someone please delete my question? Thanks again!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Monty Burns:
Hi guys

i'm thinking of throwing Android on my HD2 but before I do, I need to know if I can support a couple of things?

Can I support two exchange email accounts?

Will it pull sync ALL info including pictures of people from the server?

Are there any particular fields that are not supported, like the "Notes"?

Is there a Microsoft OneNote client?

I'm guessing there is no MS Zune client at the moment either? Does anyone know if there are any plans?

To support the above, do I need a specific version of Android?

Thanks!!!!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] hbazerbashi:
Hello,

I love this community :) It helped me get the best out of my X10 mini pro.

I worked hard till I got App2SD work on my phone, and now I'm getting a notification for a new upgrade to be done using my computer. So would I lose the App2SD customization? And what about the Apps and other data?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nujhum:
You will lose everything in internal mem.so make a data backup before you do the update.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] maverick_endit81:
i need some help, my samsung galaxy tab's contacts tab shows force close everytime i choose it but never happen to any other tab such logs,dialer,favourites

how do i fix this?anyone got extracted original .apk?

any help would be appreciated

thank you in advance
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] maverick_endit81:
anyone to help?
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] tgrdrgrss:
I hope I get this right.

Try if u want and replace yours with this.

Extracted right from my SGT-P1000. :)