yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] wbchristmas:
Plastic coated paperclip is cheaper! (free)

I can make you a great deal on the one I used.. Still has the shape!
[HTC EVO 3D] Astrikz:
Or... a twisty tie. Probably the cheapest and can be found around your house keep all kinds of your food fresh like bread.
[HTC EVO 3D] bangishotyou:
Hmm. So just noticed after achieving S-Off my phone now has no service. My phone is now saying it needs to be activated.

I'm on 1.50, Juopunut hboot now though. Stock but rooted ROM.

Anybody else had this happen to them? Barely noticed. Got busy at work and forgot about phone til now.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
That's normal. Just let it go through the hands free activation and you should be fine.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Although zedomax posted a link to his video on the JB wire trick for the Evo 3D a couple pages back, I just took a look at his JuopunutBear article on HTCEvoHacks and it could be very helpful to people thinking about trying this method for getting S-OFF since it includes some additional comments and links to the software you will need. Make sure to check out the comments at the end of the article since they have some good info and advice as well.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] bangishotyou:
Appreciate the info ramjet73. I went through the comments, looking for anything related that happens after I achieve S-Off and I guess I missed any relating to that. Thought it was just me. Good to know it wasn't.

I did go through the hands free activation actually. Just wasn't sure if that was normal or not.
[HTC EVO 3D] Panface:
So, if i do it now, I just should take the OTA update when it comes out, but if i wait, I will have to relock, download and flash a few things then unlock again and do this s-off method? This seems like a lot of work eitherway, lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Not quite. You will probably need to relock to take the OTA or run the RUU.exe when the official ICS is available, and then start over when it comes to root and S-OFF. If you go S-OFF now you would just flash a rooted version of the official ICS when it is available. If you stay unlocked and S-ON flashing a rooted version of the official ICS might still work for you.

If doing the JuopunutBear S-OFF seems like a lot of work to you just stay with what you've got for now, and you definitely wouldn't want to try the HBoot downgrade method for S-OFF.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] johnsonjs:
Running ControlBear under administrator privileges on Win764 I guess this message:

Starting up......

Connecting to device...

Searching device.....

Found device.....

Backing up......

Permission denied

Transferring backups....

Secondary backup FAILED!!

Press ENTER to exit.....

Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks...
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Which ROM are you using? Are you getting prompts for superuser access on your phone screen and responding to them? That usually happens when controlbear doesn't have root access.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
You probably missed a super user prompt to allow access on the phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] johnsonjs:
I'm on stock 2.17.651.5 , freshly HTC Dev unlocked with TWRP 1.1.1 recovery just flashed. I wasn't paying attention to the screen, just the DOS prompt ... I'll give it another whirl, thanks! :o

Thanks! See above .... I'll report back in a few. :)

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Yep, it was the SU requests! Thanks guys, now S-OFF .... sheer genius program :)
[HTC EVO 3D] sanvara:
Worked for me on the first try using a paperclip. Also used this method on my HTC Sensation.
[HTC EVO 3D] Will32:
Does this method require HTC unlocking?
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
Yes, but bootloader will show locked when you complete the process.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Yes, but once the process is completed the stock bootloader will show a *** LOCKED *** status instead of the *** RELOCKED *** that re-locking the bootloader from fasboot shows.

In other words, there is no indication that your phone was ever unlocked other than the fact that you got an unlock token from the htcdev.com website.

Edit: evomike77 you beat me this time. :)

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Panface:
Yeah, forget the downgrade method. I think I'll try this S-off method sometime this week and just flash an official rooted ICS ROM. Hopefully they don't change too much on the new sence that will come out as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] WasThatATrident:
Wow. Where do they come up with this stuff? Hats off to you genuises. S-OFF = trouble-free flashing..
[HTC EVO 3D] johnsonjs:
I need to return this phone to the Ebay seller and it needs to be stock ...

To return to stock Hboot 1.5 S-ON do I simply run the 2.17.651.5 RUU in fastboot?

Thanks :)
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
Yes but after the ruu you will still be s-off, and will have to write secure flag. Make sure you have stock hboot or you will brick while writing the flag.
[HTC EVO 3D] Cynovae:
Anyone help? I did the wire trick and now it just says:

Hmm still no device

Open device manager and check adb and/or fastboot drivers!

Resetting connection

But it never resets. I did the trick once before and the phone rebooted, it was still sober. This second time my phone wont restart!
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
You can try the ROM/Data Recovery steps on this page to reset your phone. If that doesn't work I would suggest going to the #juopunutbear channel on freenode using the instructions on the support page of that website and there's usually someone available to help.

Edit: It sounds like you might have software on your PC that's interfering with the USB connection like HTC Sync, iTunes, or USB tethering software.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Cynovae:
Nvm got onto irc and they just informed me phone simply turned off. I feel stupid, just had to hit the power button and turn it back on, thank you though! S-off finally, woo!

EDIT: Strange though, when doing a data wipe/factory reset, clockwork mod reports: "E:format_colume: make_extf4fs failed on /dev/block/mmc/blk1p2" after it formats /sd-ext. I haven't seen that before, I don't know what it means. Any idea?
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Sounds like you may need to format and restore your SD card. Sometimes it gets corrupted during the wire trick. Hope you backed it up per the instructions in the prerequisites.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Cynovae:
Did indeed. So just pop it into an adapter and format with fat32?
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
That's what I did, using a PC. There is also a link to instructions for formatting it in the phone near the bottom of the troubleshooting page on the website.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] rmonty:
Need a little direction...

Deleted.

Ryan
[HTC EVO 3D] wharmecht:
Question

I recently did the Wire Trick and got my Phone S-OFF, but when I go into recovery(4eXT) I am not able to mount the BOOT partition. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong or missing something?:confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] WasThatATrident:
I've also combed the forums and searched and have not found an answer to this question:

After using this method, Sense roms seem to boot just fine but AOSP seems to yield no service, and because it's AOSP I have no ability to activate the phone. Any ideas?
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
Have you tried activating on a stock Rom, then flashing an aosp after ?
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Did you disable the S-ON option in the Tools menu of 4EXT? If it's still doing SmartFlash, it might be trying to mount a boot partition that hasn't been flashed yet.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] wharmecht:
I do not have smart flash enabled. Whenever I go to Mounts all I have is /cache /data /system and /sdcard. I do not have /boot. Is this normal?
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Yes. Have you tried flashing a ROM?

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] wharmecht:
Yup, I am on MeanRom 3.92. I just thought having S-OFF would enable you to mount/modify the /boot partition. I still have a lot to learn.
[HTC EVO 3D] Cynovae:
Alright, I full reformatted (with sd formatter, not the windows utility) but the problem still persists. Not sure if it matters though because I haven't encountered any issues flashing and running roms yet. It's not a very common problem and it also seems to be clockworkmod specific, I think I'll just finally make the switch to 4ext. Thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] WasThatATrident:
I did! Activated it, flashed the aosp rom, still no service. Sense roms still work just fine.
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
That's odd, which recovery are you running?
[HTC EVO 3D] WasThatATrident:
4EXT. Was thinking about switching to TWRP or something else, but most of my research found that people thought 4EXT was the way to go.

It's very odd though. 2 sense roms worked just fine. Been trying to flash digitalhigh's MIUI and no service. Even tried redownloading the ROM.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jfree3000:
Just did this last night with my 5th replacement 3d =( . It took me a while to get the wire trick using wire, then I used a paper clip and got it to go the first time. Big props to the creator, I use to use the bricking technique before this was available and you can have s-off in less than 20 minutes.
[HTC EVO 3D] baj24:
Worked like a charm! Thank you so much!
[HTC EVO 3D] Enraged21:
EDIT: i've done this about 4 or 5 times now. still getting "still sober" error message 66732337.. what am i doing wrong?

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my phone won't even bother to turn back on after trying this out. I'm pretty sure I just bricked that ****.

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can anyone guide me on what to do???
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
Was your battery fully charged? And what sort of wire did you use?
[HTC EVO 3D] Enraged21:
my battery was around 95% and i used a paperclip wrapped with masking tape

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it shows the JuopunutBear image after the bootloader so it does turn on. Just doesn't work whatsoever. I keep trying the wire method and nothings working out for me. Don't know how I can fix it.. any help please?

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I would definitely like to have some sort of response by the end of the night. Need my phone up and running as soon as possible
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
Here u go
[HTC EVO 3D] Enraged21:
don't understand how that's supposed to help?

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if you need any other information:

1. Which version are you using (GB or ICS)? GB

2. Which ROM do you have installed? Is it rooted? Stock Rooted

3. Have you uninstalled any PC software that might interfere (HTC Sync, USB tether, iTunes)? No I uninstalled HTC Sync

4. Is your battery full charged? It was around 95% when I first started..

5. Are you connected to the PC via USB cable with USB debugging enabled? Yes

6. Is the ControlBear utility running with Administrator privileges on Windows? Yes
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
From fastboot run controlbear -f and it will restore your phone to original state. Or controlbear -r from jbear screen.

also the sd card can cause issues, you might try a different sd card and see if that does the trick.

You can try it again if not s-off

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did you use the ics version of jbear when you did the wire trick? I found this post in this thread....

I am having issues with AOSP roms as well.

I have a Thread for QnA for the Wire Trick open to help keep this thread open for Development, as that is where it is posted. Not being a jerk, just hoping to help keep this place cleaned up, and give a place for some of the nice vets to pop into to help out. (This helps to keep flaming down from grumpy people ) That is the most I am posting in regards to "Halpz!" kinda things. However!!

I do believe that it is safe to post that in my findings:

Using an ICS rom was a true mistake. The instructions said we could try other Roms, as their are too many to try out and verify.

While I thought I was not able to flash different kernels, I can. In Sense roms, it just reads the stock kernel, but it has changed. I know, because I can flash an AOSP kernel and boot loop up a sense rom.

I can flash over and boot an AOSP rom, which means my kernel would have to work with AOSP, so that was cleared up. Though when I try to finish my set up, it says I need to activate my phone, but it says it is stuck in Airplane mode. Airplane mode is NOT on, as WiFi is on. Airplane mode does kick that off as well.

So, after hearing that a number of people are having issues with this trick, even if they are few, we are still seeing a group of people popping up with same or very similar issues.

In stead of placing blame, I would suggest we start asking people with issues what is going on and start seeing if we can find a trend. While it may be user error, it could be something with the set up that the phones are on that is causing this.

Sorry to OP for multiple posts, but from what I am reading, issues are popping up and they could be caused by something outside of user error. Again, thanks for the hard work in figuring out this trick
[HTC EVO 3D] sudhirkhanger:
As far as my readings tell, this is a no go for phones on stock unrooted roms. Is that right?

Background

EVO 3D
hboot 1.5 (originally 1.4)
HTC unlocked Bootloader
Stock Unrooted 2.3 ROM

UPDATE:- Flashed recovery and and was able to get root access. I still am working on wire-trick. Getting on to a stock rooted rom and trying with the copper cable wire.

UPDATE:- It finally worked on Stock Rooted ROM using copper cable wire. It did take me a few trials.

Mucho Gracious!!
[HTC EVO 3D] spbobpilot:
It won't work

Hello,

I am running Stock, Gingerbread ROOTED ROM, and when i use the ControlBear tool, the cmd dialogue says:

=== Waiting device....

(5/45)

Fastboot detected

Rebooting device

Please wait....

(6/45)

Found device...

Waiting for device to settle...

Getting into bar.....

Raising Glass

SUCCESS - Taking a sip.

SUCCESS - Beer is tasty.

SUCCESS - Beer is tasty.

SUCCESS - Beer is tasty.

SUCCESS - Beer is tasty.

SUCCESS - Buddies and Beer

Checking alcohol level......

Let's take one more......

S-OFF Failed

Errorcode: 66732337

ErrorMsg: Still sober

Quit....

Press ENTER to exit.....

The S-Off Fails, and when it reboots, it keeps going back to the black screen and the JuopunutBear Logo in the middle. What is going wrong?

PLEASE HELP:confused:

---

by the way, could it be because the battery wasn't fully charged? My phone is pretty much unusable right know, and its plugged into the wall, but the bootloader screen stays on.
[HTC EVO 3D] sudhirkhanger:
See the DATA/ROM Recovery section to get out of the Juopunutbear Screen.

http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear-public-beta-0-1/troubleshooting/

It took me 5-10 times to get it work. I kept getting the same error.

I would say fully charge it and may be try a different wire. I used a copper cable wire.
[HTC EVO 3D] spbobpilot:
Thanks Man! ill give it a try

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Hey Guys,

Anyone know how to remove the custom Juopunot Custom HBOOT, and revert to the original one? Thanks! :confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] toolegit:
I went into fastboot and reflashed the TWRP recovery, worked for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] dmoney94:
HELP

I was changing my Phone from S-ON to S-OFF, the process stop and now all my phone does is Reboot and reboot..

I M stuck in bootloop

HELP!!!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] pokedude750:
Try getting into HBOOT and see if you have S-ON or S-OFF and then Tell Me

Also Attempt Data Recovery
[HTC EVO 3D] guycan:
If u made a nand backup try going back to that is the rule of thum in the root world
[HTC EVO 3D] AngelComa:
Noob question I'm sure.

I just got a replacement phone from the Sprint, of course it had 1.50 boot image latest stuff. So I'm happy about this. The last phone I got the day it came out, so that was easy as butter to root.

This is giving me issues. First it says it needs to be rooted... I thought S-Off was root?

So I did the HTC Dev bootloader unlocker. Its unlocked. Tried to run this and its still 'not rooted'.

What do I have to do before I run this to get S-Off? Sorry if I get people angry and start some fist shaking circle.
[HTC EVO 3D] toolegit:
Now I may be wrong on this, as I've had this phone for a couple of days, but my understanding is as follows. Unlocking allows root. S-ON prevents ICS type leaks to be installed on there, although it may be custom roms are prevented by S-ON. By rooting and S-OFFing, you can get the custom ROMS on it.

I use this rooting guide to root. Then I ran the S-OFF, and then put a custom ROM on, d3rp.
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
try this all you need is super user and recovery

http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-evo-3d-2-08-651-2-and-later-htc-unlock-method/
[HTC EVO 3D] AngelComa:
"Hit Power again to enter Fastboot.

Step 18. Type the following to install ClockworkMod Recovery:

fastboot flash recovery cwm-4.0.1.4-shooter.img"

When I type that in CMD I get:

"C:\Users\AngelComa>fastboot flash recovery cwm-4.0.1.4-shooter.img

'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command,

operable program or batch file."
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
You need to have fastboot in the same directory as the recovery image....watch the video I posted and follow all the steps
[HTC EVO 3D] AngelComa:
I actually get it down, moved files to angelcoma folder and it worked :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Cynovae:
Make sure you have drivers installed, and make sure fastboot.exe is in the current directory. You can just go to the directory in explorer with fastboot in it, shift right click in empty space, and hit open command window here. Then enter the commands.
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
Good news don't forget the thanx button, now just flash super user, do a nandroid back-up and get s-off and flash away....also I suggest you use 4ext recovery after you get set up
[HTC EVO 3D] Tipharet:
Ask support to refresh your hsl.
[HTC EVO 3D] ozeil10:
Download link isn't there. Or I can't find it. Evo 3d. Anyone.?
[HTC EVO 3D] Rooster85:
You need to view it from a computer or landscape. The link gets cut off on the mobile browser.
[HTC EVO 3D] ombguitarist:
I did this while on newt's 4.0 with the ics leak. Lost my recovery and data in the process. Fixing recovery was easy but when I tried to restore data using mean Rom 4.3 it caused bootlops. I had to install mean ics to update profile and then nan'd back to newts room no problems now everything works the same as before
[HTC EVO 3D] ozeil10:
Any luck for shooter users.??
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Thanks for confirming that. Being able to return to full stock status after using the HTC unlock method was a big factor im my deciding to go S-Off since I really wasn't having any problems with Hboot 1.5 S-On for the things I normally do.

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I don't think newt's ICS ROM is based on the VM leak, since it was out before that was available. I'm surprised the process worked at all, but not that there were complications.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] CSpoonemore:
I wanna do this but has anybody hit any problems besides the activation one. Just figured I would ask.
[HTC EVO 3D] El Queson:
+1 same question also since im flashed to Boost Mobile does it mess with radio or firmware ? Dont want to lose flash.

Nvm after reading more on this thread im going to leave this alone.
[HTC EVO 3D] XGrzesiuX:
Did it ...... fast and easy no issues..... just getting the timing rigth took two or three tries, other then that painless process.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
One person had a problem with his touchscreen after doing this process but that was determined to be a hardware problem. It doesn't seem to affect the firmware (other than the bootloader) since it doesn't load an RUU like 1.4 downgrade method and I had the same baseband version before and after. The only problems I've seen so far are related to not reading the directions thoroughly and preparing properly, and just expecting it to work no matter what ROM is used and software is installed on the PC.

OTOH, you are always taking a risk when modifying your phone in any way, and only you can decide if that risk is worth taking. No one can or will guarantee that you won't have any problems.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] SketchyStunts:
I did this last night. Installed stock rooted GB rom. (put in old SD Card)

MAKE SURE YOU CHECK "UNKNOWN SOURCES" in app menu.

Ran controlbear as admin (windows) I got a few SU prompts & selected accept.

Did the wire trick (i used speaker wire) Got it 1st try.

I also flashed the Juopunubear H-Boot

Once it was back to bootloader i powered the device down & out my old SD Card back in. Booted into bootloader, accessed recovery & restored my backup of a ICS 3.6 ROM.

On bootup it went through the activation process, updated PRL...when it searched for new firmware i hit "cancel"

All is well. I'm S-OFF & 1st thing i did was change the splash screen :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ombguitarist:
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I don't think newt's ICS ROM is based on the VM leak, since it was out before that was available. I'm surprised the process worked at all, but not that there were complications.

ramjet73[/QUOTE]

It was actually pretty easy to fix but I was a little worried when meanrom bootlooped. It would boot but before everything loaded it would take me back to the white HTC screen. The only real problem was losing data and not being able to update my data profile from newts rom. A quick flash to meanrom ics and an update and I'm back in business. Guess it wouldn't load meanrom 4.3 properly because I used the ics leak version to get s-off but I'm not really sure.
[HTC EVO 3D] SketchyStunts:
also, upon doing this going into recovery (i use ext4) it was in safe mode. I had to clear cache, do the "format everything except sd card" then reboot your recovery to get it out of safe mode.

Hope that helps for people getting stuck at the splash screen.
[HTC EVO 3D] Nametaken:
OK I got S Off, after a few tries. My recovery is gone and it just reboots to fastboot when I try to go to recovery. Got that. Fastboot is on my machine, it has to be to run this lil gem. Now, when I try to boot up I still get the Jupw/e screen. I try to use Fastboot, but the screen won't stay open on my machine. It just loads up and closes right away. Not really good, well never used, Fastboot before. What in the world did I do, or not do :p How can I get a recovery or a rom or something other than just the Jup screen on my phone now? :( Feel free to mock me, just do it in PM to keep the thread on track <3

Thanks in advance!
[HTC EVO 3D] sillyputty:
I did this s-off process on my evo 3d that I flashed to CricKet and I have had no issues.

After performing this, I flashed a ics rom without having to flash the boot.img through fastboot.
[HTC EVO 3D] govno64:
You shouldn't need to call them. As soon as you try to make a call, it should re-route your call to the appropriate tech support. Just stay on the line.

I made the mistake of calling them, and the lady I talked to said that she "had never seen this before and didn't know what to do except issue me a ticket so I could take it in to a store."
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
No reason to mock you as it seems like you have gotten pretty far on your own. I would try taking the battery out, then put it back in and press VolumeDown+Power (you have to hold that combination for a few seconds) to manually get into the bootloader and select fastboot mode. If you can do that you should be able to flash a recovery using "fastboot flash recovery.img" from your PC.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] saenz4931:
I have some kind off weird thing going on... After accomplished the S-OF with this method.. my home, and back bottoms, are dime... While menue, and search bottoms are bright... Can anyone tell me if this is normal after obtaining s-off using this method.. or I mess up my phone... Thanks in advance
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Might be your ROM or tweaks that are causing that. Try booting into recovery and see if they still are like that.

ramjet73