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[Thunderbolt General] chrisjm00:
One thing I actually thought was funny is I pulled out an old Sammy flip phone to see what size battery it had. 1100 mah. 5 years ago they were shipping dumbphones with 1100 mah batteries. Come to present day, a phone with 4G, a 1 ghz processor, and a ginormous lcd screen has a bump of 300 mah. Is something wrong with that?
[Thunderbolt General] chrisjm00:
I don't want to sound like a jackass, but I bought a 4G phone, not a 4G phone I need to use in 3G so I can make it through the day. In the end I just bought the extended battery. Solved all my woes.
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
If I can figure out how to go 22 hours with 43% remaining on my phone with moderate to heavy use, than sure as hell you should be able to get at least 12-15 hours out of the phone, not knowing half of what I know.

cause that is all that matters right, making it through the day for how long your awake, so for most people 12-15 hours, then you are home and can plug it in.

who cares if you make it home and plug it in at 5%, it still lasted you all day.
[Thunderbolt General] howtodoo?:
I've done the 5 tips for better life, and thou it has a improved.... its a minor improvement. the phone is with out a doubt sweet, im just pissed bc i cant get a full day out of it. i work for 8 hours and leave the friggin thing in airplane mode, then on my way home i listen to music with it still in airplane mode subway kills it mad quick....i do and dont wanna bring it back i want the newest thing out, im coming from a OG moto droid.. 50-60 bucks for a goddamn battery that makes your phone last longer and turns it into a potential weapon...data/voice together is the only feature right now that is making it hard for me to decide if i should bring it back or not.. i got it this past Saturday i have 8 more days to decide, not to mention vzw wants the 35 dollar restock fee now. who remembers when they had the 30 day test run??? lmao they stop doing it because people kept bringing phones back within the period...
[Thunderbolt General] shock2sys:
my phone definitely lasts me the day, but i don't think it would last the 10 to 15 hours that others are reporting. i already turned the brightness down to about 25 - 30 percent, turned off unnecessary widgets and sync'ing plus i set setcpu to throttle the cpu down to lowest speed when the screen is off. as such, i'd like to know what others are doing to squeeze so much battery time out of their TBs.
[Thunderbolt General] TBJared:
Custom Rom and Kernel seemed to help my battery life a ton. I can now easily make it all day with moderate to heavy use on stock battery. From the battery monitor, it looks like the screen will eat the most power, be sure to keep it set low. The underclock/volt while screen is off uses hardly any batter power and is really nice as well.
[Thunderbolt General] infamousxsniper:
I'm getting awesome battery... My phone has been up for about twelve

Hours now and I still have about 45 percent... Heavy usage texting music internet and xda posting.
[Thunderbolt General] METDeath:
On all Android devices the screen is the battery eater, except on 2.0/2.1 with Exchange Sync issues... then it could hang and eat the battery.
[Thunderbolt General] HuskyHog:
I've never really had an issue with battery life. That's not to say my battery lasts longer, i just use different methods to keep my devices alive.

AA USB chargers have always been a good friend of mine, as well as plugging my phone into my laptop while it's in my backpack.

I can't wait for an external battery charger to come out for the TB, then you just have 2 or 3 batteries and swap them out as needed.

But if you're expecting more than 8 hours or so off of one charge they're right, you may look for another device :)
[Thunderbolt General] Boss428man:
Yah man, 3 hours of navigation, with music going, many calls, 3 hours of internet use, txt & talk and LTE and 3G switching through out all day because of traveling . I was really heavily using the phone with an extended battery but made it just over 24 hours... Try trading it in for another battery. Your not Wifi tethering all day as home network are you?
[Thunderbolt General] athorax:
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Blackberries are known for having excellent battery life. I had 12 hours 40 some odd minutes and was at 69% last night when i plugged my TB in to charge. I really don't understand the problem.

edit: proof, this was a few hours before i plugged it in.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
Stop whining about the phone. If you don't like the phone, take it back. No one here is forcing you to keep it.
[Thunderbolt General] Nusince:
You bought a device with a 4.3" screen and a brand new radio technology. Honestly, what did you expect.No phone out there with a screen that large has what could be considered great battery life. Sure some are better then others, but these are not BB devices. And while we are at it, lets be realistic here... if they put in a bigger battery you would be in here complaining about how large and how heavy the phone is.... You can't have everything, something has to give at some point.
[Thunderbolt General] Nusince:
You are right, blackberries are actually known for having fantastic battery life (it is not uncommon for users on my network to see batteries last well over a day from users that are actually talking on the phone for over 3 hours a day).
[Thunderbolt General] scmguru:
2nd.. Root and new Kernel definitely helps. Also, SetCPU has been a godsend.. once I had that installed, I was able to get about a full day of heavy use and nearly 2 days of light use.
[Thunderbolt General] vitsdroid:
I get awesome battery life! I use my phone all day to stream music and podcast, talk and txt and when I put it on the charger at night I usually have at least 30% left. It lasts 15 hours easily for me.
[Thunderbolt General] DroidTh3ory:
Running lean kernel may battery life is just fine for this beast can do for me.

I bought a car charger.

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[Thunderbolt General] fillyo:
I would really love to verify this! I am good with battery tricks, battery life is acceptable. At your rate, you can go atleast two days.
[Thunderbolt General] royolpunk:
I get cool battery life with das bamf but I'm getting the extended battery soon and that will be even more awesome :)
[Thunderbolt General] Forgetfull:
What rom/kernel are you using? Setcpu? Removed any bloatware?
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
Not sure what blackberry you had, but I had a Curve (8330) and it had great battery life, but then again when you have a phone like that, you're not exactly motivated to play games, use the internet, etc. Battery and email are about the only things blackberry does well, excluding maybe the storm, which had horrible battery life and a crappy screen (which you may have had). I'd never buy anything blackberry has touchscreen wise, but then again, I don't think I would buy another blackberry since they're basically "feature" phones at smart phone prices by carrier pricing.

The experience I get on the TB/android phone is vastly improved over blackberry. I no longer have to decide if I want to deal with the crappy web browser built into it (which has now gotten better with switching to a webkit one in BB OS6, but I had OS5) or wait 30-45 seconds for Opera Mini to load up.

Relatively speaking, if I used my Thunderbolt like I used my blackberry, the battery life would probably be amazing, but I would also be paying $30 a month for a data connection that I barely used.

If you want to get better battery, search the forums for methods to do that. You can undervolt, underclock, lower the screen brightness/time on, watch for apps using resources in the background, etc.

I know it sounds kind of mean (to say to the OP), but if you want a phone that constantly holds your hand, the TB may not be the one for you. It takes a bit of tweaking, learning and reading to get things the way you want it and to be happy. However, in the process, you will learn much more about how things work, so if there's any motivation in it for you to get out of the comfort zone, that would be it.

If you want something that "just works," Apple makes certain products that fulfill that need. If you still have time to take it back, Verizon will exchange it for something else I am sure.
[Thunderbolt General] eallan:
This doesn't show us anything. Your display bar is so short, if the screen on time was only like 15 minutes, it is unimpressive. it also looks like you didn't use the phone at all really.

So you're basically showing us you can get good battery life if you don't use your phone? Great.
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
If they sold you the perfect phone then they could not sell you extras for it and make more money.
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
Battery life (well battery technology) on devices in general has not really improved in the last 5-7 years. Google around and you'll see what I mean. Most of the optimizations for battery have come with through hardware conserving power better and tuning operating systems to take advantage of that. Though the fact battery tech has been lagging is probably part due to it not being a priority and part to sell those accessories like extra batteries as you said.
[Thunderbolt General] DroidTh3ory:
No complaints as much as I am on my phone. Stock DeBloated. 09 with LeanKernel OC'ed to 1.4, screen off profile, and battery calibration done.

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[Thunderbolt General] Killershade:
Let me add to this thread as well. Running Virus ROM plus Adrynalyne's 4.1b Kernel and I left my phones screen on (no auto dim) for 8 hours last night when I passed out. Woke up this morning and it still had 20% battery. I was extremely surprised but yea, no battery life issues when you tweak the phone properly. Just be patient. Every phone has a different personality.
[Thunderbolt General] athorax:
You have no idea what you're talking about. I played pokemon for 4+ hours that day.
[Thunderbolt General] gregdalfonso:
I hate to be one of these jackasses..and no disrespect meant to the OP. But from a business standpoint its all about the bottom line. HTC can make better batteries but it would cost them more money. (And considering the added revenue they are getting with extended batteries, they would lose even more.)

I wouldn't expect to see any changes anytime soon. As an accountant, for ****s and giggles, I took a look at HTC's financial statements. They are doing AMAZING. I mean, growing at an extraordinary rate with ever increasing net income every quarter. Unfortunately all of our complaints aren't affecting their top line (aka sales) so they are going to continue cutting operating and manufacturing costs as much as possible to keep shareholders happy and milk the most amount of profits possible.

You have to realize, it comes to corporate greed (hate that term) but just increasing their battery sizes by a small amount could easily raise their cost millions of dollars.

I agree, its sad and we are getting screwed over, but history has shown, when companies get too greedy and focus to much on ever increasing profits, their product quality drops, and it eventually bites them in the ass. (Ex: American car manufucturers)
[Thunderbolt General] jasonbiggs:
82% left after doing all that! Tell me your secret! lol
[HD7 General] circleofomega:
Considering the only "visible" change is the reduced color depth and the copy paste, there is nothing else why I want to stick to this nodo update...so is there a way I can go back to the first, very first firmware without jailbreaking it..? On Zune I had seen an option of going back to the previous version option once...but can I do it now...or will it have seriously harm the phone's performance in any way??
[HD7 General] Shadowise:
You would have to flash an older pre-NoDo ROM. This can be done quite easily, but does mean wiping your phone.
[HD7 General] circleofomega:
It gives e a restore point of some Jan 1, 2005...Should I go for it??
[HD7 General] rhn:
you can try restoring, it should work, forget the date:p If it doesn't, you can always flash a pre-nodo rom :)
[HD7 General] jimbonics:
March 2011

OS version: 7.0.7390.0*

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Copy & paste. You asked for it—now it's here. Just tap a word and drag the arrows to copy and paste it on your phone. You can copy text from emails, text messages, web pages, and Office Mobile documents, and paste it anywhere you can type. To learn more, see Copy & paste.

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Faster apps and games. Nobody likes to wait. That's why we've whittled down the time it takes for apps and games to start up and resume. It's all part of our focus on getting you to the things you love, easier and faster.

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Better Marketplace search. We've streamlined Marketplace search to make it easier to find specific apps, games, or music. Press the Search button in the Apps or Games section of Marketplace and you'll see only apps or games in the results. Press Search in the Music section of Marketplace to search just the music catalog.

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Other Marketplace improvements. We've improved the stability of Marketplace while you download apps. We've also improved the experience of downloading apps larger than 20 megabytes, upgrading from trial apps to paid apps, sharing links to apps via email, sorting Xbox LIVE games by release date, and creating an Xbox LIVE account from within the Games Hub.

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Wi-Fi improvements. We now display your phone's Media Access Control (MAC) address in Settings. (You might need this info if you try to connect to a Wi-Fi network that uses MAC address filtering. To learn more, see Connect to a Wi-Fi network.) We've also removed the limit on the number of Wi-Fi profiles that you can store and reduced the time it takes to start your phone if you've stored lots of Wi-Fi profiles.

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Outlook improvements. We've improved the experience of viewing iPhone photo attachments you receive from a non-Exchange-based email account (such as a Google Mail, Hotmail, or Yahoo! Mail account), using the Global Address List (GAL) when connecting to Exchange Server 2003 using Exchange ActiveSync, and working with email display names that contain brackets (for example, "David Alexander [Contoso]").

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Facebook integration. We've improved the experience of syncing Facebook accounts.

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Camera improvements. We've improved the stability of switching between camera and video modes.

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Audio improvements. We've improved the experience of using a Bluetooth headset to make calls when you're playing music or videos.

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Other performance improvements. This month's update also includes software from several phone manufacturers that improves the performance of specific models. Naturally, if you don't have one of the affected models, we won't install this portion of the update on your phone.
[HD7 General] hinds:
He must really love that color depth.....
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] techtechnique:
I've been really interested in the development in the MIUI ROM for the Desire and have tried some of XavierJohn22's offerings. The progress seems excellent and I love the look of the UI, (despite it's obvious comparisons with iOS...) and the increases in performance / battery life compared to the stock ROM.

What I'm not sure of, (and I have trawled through the forums looking for the answers!) are the differences in both functionality and advancements in development, between the variants that are on offer - namely the MIUI AU version, MarkHUK's (miui-dev) and those by XJ.

To add to the confusion, what are the differences between the 3 versions XJ has compiled? (a2sd, x-part and d2w)

Are there any benefits that would favour one over the others?

What are the benefits in moving the caches onto the SD card apart from the obvious space gains on the phone?

Is there any loss of performance?

Also, I've read that performance can be greatly improved by flashing a Froyo kernel into the Gingerbread build (MIUI 1.4.1). Surely a downgrade of kernel would also downgrade the system back to Froyo?

I appreciate these may be very noobish type questions, but I really want to learn this!

If anyone can provide any answers I would be very grateful.

P.S. Before this thread gets removed again, would someone care to let me know the reasons for deletion?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lennyz1988:
These are just different build from different chefs, the main difference is that they make their rom the way they want them. Beside that one rom could use a newer version of miui then the other.

The only advantage is more space on your phone. There could be performance loss but that depends on your SDcard and some other factors. Stick with a2sd and then if you haven't got enough space (which I doubt) you could try some other versions.

A froyo kernel is for froyo and a gingerbread kernel for gingerbread. You don't use one with the other.

You can get improvements with different kernels but you just need to read and test for yourself. The main improvements could be better batterie life, but because it's depends a lot on the hardware of your phone, you should test this yourself.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Chances are it's cause you posted a question in the wrong forum, hence its movement
[About XDA developers] snoof:
Hi all,

My first post to XDA ! I really enjoy your forums/community/devs !

Many thanks to everyone here !

My second will probably be a noob question in HTC Desire - Dev forum ! :p
[About XDA developers] orangekid:
lol, the man's got a sense of humor :D
[About XDA developers] karendar:
Orange you glad I didn't say banana? BadumPISH!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freddan80:
Hi all.

I just wondered if it would be possible to push Swiftkey to /system/app. I like Swiftkey but use a a2sd configuration and Swiftkey is a tad bit slow when using it from sd but perhaps it can't be run any faster due to my dalvik thar also lives on my sd.

Any thoughts? /Thanks.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] navdra:
I don't see why you couldn't push it and try. Just make sure you have enough space in system partition.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Xoom General] Cerberus86:
RIght I have my credit card sitting in front of me, I know I want an android tablet, I usually get things first like the Nexus One had that imported and got a Nexus S when that came out too, So I am all for "Just the google" experience.

Reason I want the Xoom, I get a lot of emails and a lot of scripts that I need to read and doing so on the xoom would be better than my Nexus S, I think it will make me very productive. I know things are very over hyped in the media and there are a lot of things saying that the battery and screen are crap, So Xoom owners tell me it isn't so

gooooo...........
[Xoom General] poisike:
For me the screen looks good and I get about 10hrs screen on use out of the battery, so I really can't say anything bad about that.

Only complaint I have are the force closes of stock browser (about 5 a day), but I believe google will fix this with next update.

I use my Xoom to surf the web and read email on my couch.
[General Questions and Answers] vgonzal:
Hi.

I can't connect the x8 with the bluetooth of my car. Is there any work around for this issue?

Thx
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Niiceg:
Hello,

I have website about Windows Phone OS. It's local for Lithuania and I'm getting more and more attention from people, who are interested in WP and etc. So, I want to expand a little and make some promotion on some sites, that are popular in Lithuania.

So, my question is:

Are there some people who could help me to make good, animated banners?

Or maybe you know how to make it? Is there a program for that?

Thank you for your help,

WPCentras.lt Administrator
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] carlos_d11:
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

Hola a todos quisiera que me brinden de su ayuda y conocimientos, tengo una HTC HD2 T-mobile No sé pero me confundo viendo tantas instrucciones y dicen que para estos modelos se siguen otros pasos ya que mi equipo cuenta con:

• Ram size: 576 MB

• Flash size: 1024

• SPL 2.08.0000

• Radio 2.08.50.07u

Me gustaría que me dieran a conocer que es lo que necito para instalar el wm 7 Soy Novato así que les pido de su colaboración. Gracias por su atención

translated:

Hi all I would like to offer your help and knowledge, I have an HD2 HTC T-mobile I do not know but I get confused seeing so many directions and say that for these models are still other steps because my team has:

• Ram size: 576 MB

• Flash size: 1024

• SPL 2.08.0000

• Radio 2.08.50.07u

I wish I had known that's what necito to install wm Novato 7 am so I ask for your cooperation. Thanks for your attention
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] unamed18:
Ya que veo que hablas español, te recomiendo que entres en esta web en la que esta todo muy bien explicado y en español. En la explicacion en el apartado de de instalar la rom, lo unico que tienes que hacer es instalar la que tu quieras, no tiene porque ser la que pone ahi, yo te recomiendo la xbmod 1.04. Y tampoco hace falta hacer eso que pone en la segunda parte del post desde donde pone 'archivo de registro PhoneRegAdd.zip' ya que estas roms ya vienen con el Chevron activado.

Esta es la web, la explicacion esta traducida de la pagina de xda.

htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=171701
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] carlos_d11:
Since I see you speak Spanish, I recommend that you enter this site in which everything is well explained in Spanish. In the explanation in the section on installing the rom, all you have to do is install the one you want, need not be the one that gets there, I recommend the xbmod 1.04. And no need to do that it says on the second part of the post from where it says "log file PhoneRegAdd.zip 'as these roms come with the Chevron on.

This is the website, the explanation is translated from the xda website.

htcmania.com / showthread.php? t = 171701

Hi thanks for your attention but that's where the problem comes in that link I understand everything, only that there is a thread where you say

If you do not know how to flash HSPL, radio or ROM check out here

being on this page are

if you own a t-mobile USA 1024 Here is the tutorial made ​​specifically for this type of terminal

then this is the part that leaves me lost.

I'm a little stone maybe I can help out for sure thanks for your cooperation