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[Xoom General] Psychokitty:
Since I allowed myself to get sucked into this thread in the first place, I might as well give my 2 cents...

If you got the Xoom to try it out and I decided that you do not like it, simply return it. If you feel the need to offer your opinion, that can be both useful and helpful to those trying to decide if they want to spend a rather large amount of money on one.

However, if you got the Xoom knowing that it is an unfinished product with no concrete date given by the manufacturer as to when it will be completed, and simply have grown too impatient to wait any longer, then do not take anger and disappointment in your own lack of patience out on this forum by bashing the Xoom. Instead, feel good that you learned something new about yourself, even if its the boundary of a limitation.

I'm sick of having to wade through trollish testimonials of disgruntled Xoom owners who seem to feel they can justify their own shortcoming of complete lack of patience by *****ing about how terrible the Xoom its every chance they get.

Stop littering the forum. There's no giant conspiracy to get people to buy or keep their unwanted Xooms.
[Xoom General] falconeight:
You just supported everyones reasons for returning it. People on all forums post about why they are returning a product. For me as a consumer it is very helpful. It helped me in my decision to return it. Android is amazing and on the right product its great, but on this tablet its just not ready. I don't see why people who are actual fans of tech can't give their opinion without being called trolls. Please don't get me wrong I actually think that motorola put out good hardware, but what are their chances when this is what we see when we go to the store.
[Xoom General] Psychokitty:
I'm sorry, I must've missed all your posts *****ing about how ****ty the Xoom is. Where are they?

Your trying to help polarized the issue by suggesting that my post is counter-productive to it's intent in "ah ha, gotcha!" fashion only helps to further illustrate my point.

Whether you're adding your opinion to be helpful or you're just being a troll, you know the difference. And so does everyone else. There its no grey area.

Simple as that.
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
What I don't understand is why some people's Xooms are horribly laggy and unstable and others are not. I'm not buying this "broken unit" thing.. Not from a major manufacture like Motorola, there can't be this many. It is either user error or Honeycomb slowly becomes laggish over time. I see why Google didn't release the source, Honeycomb might not be ready for prime time. The thing is that my father's Xoom doesn't suffer these problems... So, like... What?
[Xoom General] wase4711:
frankly I think its a combination of un-realistic expectations, operator error, and

initial release rough spots..

Obviously, there will be some defects; ~3% is realistic in the consumer electronics world.

Also, being "early adopters" ALWAYS entails some initial disappointment, but, if you believe in Android, and Motorola, you tend to be more patient that some people might be.

Bottom line is if you hate it that much, or, don't think its worth it, then please just return it, and try not to spew so much hatred on web boards for people who want to learn more about the product, or ask questions about it so their experience is enhanced..

so many angry people on XDA lately..
[Xoom General] Psychokitty:
I think people often underestimate how taxing some widgets and other apps that constantly update can be.

This is a good opportunity to test that theory, having access to two Xooms.
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
I could not imagine NOT keeping my laptop. The Xoom is a great tool and companion but there are tasks that are just soo much easier on a laptop, completely independent of the lack of applications. If you are unhappy you should return the Xoom and get a small laptop which could be ad little as $399.

[sent with Xooming Android technology]
[Xoom General] epakrat75:
Even if the Market magically was able to hide all incompatible software when viewed on the XOOM, people would likely still decide to sideload unofficial / unsupported versions of any given app and then blame the OS / developer for their mistake(s). I don't know why some face force close issues, etc and others don't but it might be partly due to apps not having been optimized / tested in honeycomb. If Google were more proactive in protecting people from themselves, everything would be all good and fruity right?
[Xoom General] MikeyMike01:
There's a very, very, VERY important difference between criticism of, and hatred towards.
[Xoom General] Synman:
Am i the only one experiencing unknown battery state? More often then not my xoom's battery icon has a question mark and ive noticed soe hokiness around sleep.... from time to time.... i could swear its light sensor related, it powers down rather than sleeping....
[Xoom General] Psychokitty:
No. That's definitely not right.
[Xoom General] stparker38:
Since the power button is on the back, is it possible she is accidently holding it down and causing it to reboot? Just a thought. I have had mine for five days now and it has not giving me issues. Since I have the EVO, I am trying to solely stick to tablet apps only so I don't even run into the FC issues... I am just awaiting for the SD slot to be available and then it will really be my portable media machine. I have never owned any Apple products, but I admit I went to Best Buy to break down and buy an iPad 2 and the fact that I can't eventually tweak and tap into it caused me to go back to Xoom (had just found out that the WIFI only version was available). I also didn't like the fact that iPad /iPhone has very limited FREE apps. I think since this is only the beginning for Android, its not even fair to compare it to a unit made by a company that has been around for a long time!
[Xoom General] Synman:
It was happening even before I rooted so I doubt a reset will fix it too.
[Xoom General] knut150:
Indeed, but we are to blame too because of threads like this, seems like we enjoy feeding the trolls.
[Xoom General] marinierb:
And they'd be called Apple.
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Lol, doubly brilliant because it's true && cause it fits the fruity comment! Genius.
[Xoom General] mikejet:
No lie, I've never had the Xoom reboot on me. Sucks that you are having issues with the one you guys picked up though.

I don't have much installed though, only tablet apps from the featured section and one random movie player.
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Can I suggest to those of you that are having problems, connect the device up to your computer and play around/leave it streaming the logcat back to the PC (in a terminal or command prompt with infinite scrollback setup.

To do this you have to have it in USB debug mode, and using the android SDK tools call:

adb logcat

You can then find the relevent section just before the thing dies and post any errors you find so that we can try to help.

If have found, in the past that a lot of the problems I had were due to poorly coded third party apps running in the background.

Some of the biggest culprites I have found to be live wallpapers.
[Xoom General] txcas:
I returned my WIFI Xoom to Costco 2 days ago. Way to unstable for me, I am not paying $600+ to Beta test this device for Google. I might try again in the future if the fix their bugs.
[Xoom General] Kalavere:
I don't know why, but I want a Xoom so badly. My girlfriend would kick my ass if I bought one. But I don't think i can help myself! But Honeycomb seems so new I am thinking I should wait longer...
[Xoom General] wase4711:
your GF will KISS your ass if you buy one, not kick it!

she'll want one too, once she plays with yours..

When Honeycomb gets an upgrade, you can upgrade your Xoom then, so why worry?
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Heh, I got round the girlfriend easy, I just let her spend the same amount on ASOS while I preordered.

Heck, I even got her to watch an hours worth of review bids :D
[Xoom General] Synman:
I hard resetted again in prep for doing a staples exchange (there's no way I'd give this baby up) and low and behold my battery stats have come back..... so no trip back to the store planned for me ATM.
[Xoom General] dsEVOlve:
Have to agree on this one. Seems like everything is running better since removing Flash after reading your post.
[Xoom General] MvP77:
I returned my Xoom today. I have no knock on the Xoom. i just wanna wait and see the other tabklets that come to the market before i commit to one. I knida miss it already though lol.
[Xoom General] MitchRapp:
omg omg omg my Xoom just shutdown on me omg omg omg

no wait, I was draining the battery lol

are people still making threads like this? Shouldn't they return it and start posting in the ipad section?
[Xoom General] kalfou:
I love how a certain amount of people on this forum hate the ipad... Have even half of you haters used one? Why can't you people like both?
[Xoom General] epakrat75:
Good, I'm glad some found the humor in that. :cool:
[Nook Color General] glenairlie:
Any chance of one of the Devs having time to look into why the microphone input is not recognised or enabled on bt headsets in CM7?

Great progress has been made getting BT enabled, but I'd love to be able to Skype or record audio via BT...
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Ill put a +1 on interest in this; but i know realistically, there are more critical things being fixed right now, so i am ok waiting.. :)
[Nook Color General] sark666:
I'm sure down the road, more devices will work, but I'm interested in the range issue. Is it a hardware issue (antenna) or is it a software?
[Nook Color General] chisleu:
software. the wifi shares the antenna with the BT.
[Nook Color General] azpatterson:
I'm sure it's just a matter of time before the bluetooth is able to handle a microphone. That's what I'm waiting for. I am loving the latest CM7 stable 4-11-11.

That's the only thing my nook is missing.... mic. I've been through all the ROMS and nothing beats the CM7 ...IMO. I will be more than happy to test any kernels for bluetooth stacks that the developers may come up with. I'm not familiar with what all they have to overcome to make it work but I am rooting for them. All the hard work that has already gone into this is AMAZING!!!!!!!

"We need more Cowbell"
[Android Apps and Games] sonicguy12:
I was wondering if anyone have the latest Talking Tom App since the Android Market keeps giving me the "download unsuccesful" message. I need an apk file.
[Android Apps and Games] sburbol:
dunno how you feel about the amazon app store, but its on there.
[Android Apps and Games] modmyphone:
And it was free just the other day.
[Android Apps and Games] sonicguy12:
I live in the UK. It won't let me download through the amazon market.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mudd_cat23:
I've noticed people saying to make sure your battery is fully charged when flashing the stock sbf. How long does this process usually take. Going to flash it back and root the new ota and I was wondering how long ill be off the grid for.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
This is not a development question, and should be in the Q&A section.

It takes about 5-10 minutes. Having done the process about 35-40 times now, I have the entire flash 1.26, root, update to 1.57, reroot process down to about 20 minutes.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Well, for me, I have a really fast core i5 Sony Vaio, but I can't flash any phones with it because I always get errors (something not working right on Win7) so I have to use my old 2006 Sony Vaio with first gen core 2 duo (Centrino Duo) on XP. And with that said, it takes about 45 minutes on that POS.

So the speed of it is really all in the power of your computer.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Nilius17:
amd quad core with win7 takes about 10 min
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Swiftks:
You know that you may need to shorten the file name length; you call name it what ever you want, just don't have any space in the name or change the .sbf file extension. Also, a good idea to make sure the file path doesn't have spaces in it as well; just put the .sbf in the root c:\
[Atrix 4G Android Development] GatorRuss:
Do this.

I have an i7 with 8 cores and 8 GB of RAM running Windows 7...it's not your processor, it's RSD. Doing this worked for me.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] drock212:
I use my netbook with 2gb ram and its crappy little 1.nothing ghz processor atom processor and it only takes about 10 minutes
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joe ferreira:
the time it takes to flash the default spf has nothing to do with your computers speed. ie cpu ram blah blah.

the person that says it is taking 45 minutes has a pc with usb 1.1 not usb 2.0

that is why it is slow.

on any normal pc expect 5-15 mins.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] gzrecoil:
It took me about 10-20 minutes on the atrix both times.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] anirudh15891:
hey i am not sure where to post this but i kinda did in mutiple posts ..after using RSD lite and toke the .sbf file.. it says failed flashing process and giving me the (0x7100). i dont know how to get out of "starting RSD protocol support"

I am kinda PANICKING RIGHT NOW!! I AM SCARED WHETHER MY PHONE IS BRICKED!

please help me out!! much appreciated!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] diedemus:
takes me 14 minutes 27 seconds (yes I timed it) to flash 1.2.6, root, and update on a 3ghz amd quad with 8gb, and I have no problems with rsd with the file anywhere and any name length

ymmv, as with any software, I would be concerned if a single flash took more than 20 minutes though
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Swiftks:
Problem:

Possible Answer:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Yes, I do that. You see, shortening the file name only makes the 'start' button to where I can click it (where it's not grayed out). When I try to start it it gives me an instant error which I've looked up several time but cannot find the solution to. I had some old Motorola phone (like the ZN5) I used to mod, and flash with SBFs, and those would go through fine. It's weird, and I still don't understand why I get this error.
[Xoom Accessories] mobilehavoc:
Where's a good place to buy an extra charger? Preferrably in a store because I need it for this weekend. Or an online site with fast shipping.
[Xoom Accessories] ateld:
Call up your local Verizon store and ask them, they might!
[Xoom Accessories] scramer:
Our local Staples has one, you might see if yours does. If you don't have a staples you might see about ordering from staples site, I know with me I (usually) get next-day delivery.
[Xoom Accessories] velopirate:
Staples, Best Buy, and Verizon all have them locally.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tannerw_2010:
Simply put, I just flashed GB (3/26), and the first thing I noticed was that games (MX moto light in particular) were playing like a slideshow compared to the froyo rom I just came from. This is one of the few games that actually plays well on the hero (on froyo at least), but GB just doesn't respond well at all. Does anyone have a solution?

FWIW, I have tried JIT on/off, tinkered with VM Settings and other performance options and it plays just as bad.

Thanks!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pstevep:
*looks around for il Duce*
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cybertimber2007:
Many changes have come to Gingerbread, and no rom, as far as I'm aware, is considered "Stable" on the HeroC. Maybe aosp's. But that said, they definitley haven't entered the "tweak every ounce of performance out of it" phase, and might explain why.

Feel free to join the Devs, and please post in the Questions section next time ;)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] macraze:
Weird. I am on the same rom and that game plays great. I have jit on, Purging of assets on, CPU @ 768 with the performance governor. I did notice a slight slowdown coming from froyo. Perhaps consider doing a full wipe.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tannerw_2010:
Hmm... Well I actually originally flashed GB about 2 months ago, and went back to froyo after only a week because of the exact same issue. So I did a full wipe essentially twice; I think it's safe to say I can rule that out, unless I did something wrong twice that I don't know about (?).

This time around, GB seems to be running overall on par, if not better than froyo, except for this game. Another game I just tested (Ninja Rush Deluxe) seems to be running as well as it did on froyo, which is weird considering how bad MX Moto runs. :confused:
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cp0020:
your the 2nd person to say to post in the Q&A section next time.... this is the Q&A section! lol
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] il Duce:
commandment 7:

THOU SHALT LEARN HOW TO TWEAK YOUR DEVICE
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] il Duce:
Both of the threads you're referring to were originally in dev, and were moved.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] il Duce:
seriously OP, try using and tweaking the ROM for a day or two, ANY variant of GB blows froyo out of the water for games, but maybe requires a little more tweaking. I would suggest aospCMod, 352 min interactive, JIT, purge, opengles version 131072, sd tweak, comcache 26, dithering, vm heap 32 or 48.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gjroeleveld:
..as of 16:00 cet today

Just ordered the "thick" 10.1v with 8MP camera and a tegra2 CPU

Some info from vodafone :

http://www.vodafone.com/content/index/press/news/samsung_galaxy.html

The v in model name stands for Vodafone (but no simlock)

As the have 3 months exclusive deal..

This one comes with vanilla HoneyComb (no touchwiz)

Scheduled to arrive last week of April (in stores that is)

so I hope mine is in sooner ;-)

I was tempted by the 8.9 sizes, but this is 3 months earlier and at least the same hardware if not better (camera.)

Edit: Corrected CPU type. Added link
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Blueman101:
link please?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
http://www.vodafone.nl/shop/categor...-galaxy-tab-10.1v/cat41850002/?icmp=galaxytab
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] shiggy10001:
Prices are way to high if you ask me and Vodafone has real bad deals at the moment in the Neterlands.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gjroeleveld:
Dutch / european prices are always high.. usually it's more than a euro for a dollar... even with the current exchange rates.

I ordered it without contract, so vodafone 's weak deals don't matter in my case

Sent from my CM7 running SGS
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] StuMcBill:
So its not a Tegra 2 CPU - interesting.

I would imagine that the thinner, newer ones will also use a Samsung in house SoC.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
I think this is Tegra 2 ...

If you see the specification: AP: T20 Dual core 1 GHz.

AP = Application Processor?

T20 definitely Tegra 2
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] italia0101:
Yea the xmm is a modem.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] livingincm:
omfg omfg.. i saw a VOIP on the specs. Does that mean this tab can call out & sms like a phone?!?!?!?!?!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
That is not certain. Seems that SoC in new GT 10.1 will be Samsung Exynos not Tegra (Thank God!!!) + new 10.1 has SD card slot 10.1v does not have it.

This means that:

new 10.1 should play all video files like firs galaxy tab (mkv 720p high profile included)

it will not be a problem do put few videos on card and card into device - good luck with both this things on 10.1v

Although I have to admit I love the look of the back of 10.1v
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kwagga:
We know that the 10.1v will NOT have a HDMI, a MicroSD slot,USB ports or DLNA, and no Gorilla Glass - I've been reading forum threads and previews every hour, on the hour, for the past 3 days.

But, DLNA is software, so do you guys think that it will be included in a later release?

Also, the gorilla glass, I saw a Russian demo, where they talk about "scratch resistant glass" on the 10.1v - can anyone confirm this?

Thinking about the shortfalls, more and more, justifying $1400 USD for the device here in South Africa, the device is losing it's sparkle quickly. Especially considering that the Asus Eee Pad Transformer, or the Acer Iconia Tab A500 is just around the corner, and these devices, overcome the flaws of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 & 10.1v, by a large margin!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
1. As far as I know both GT's 10.1v & 10.1 do come in with DLNA support.

In case of 10.1v it does not matter so much as because it comes with Tegra 2 inside it will not be able to play some of the video files anyway.

2. What flaws of GT 10.1 are u refering to? It is better than all above in all ways. The only decider here for some might be keyboard of Asus Transformer. But if one does not need keyboard than GT 10.1 is better in every way.

3. Knowing that 10.1 is going to hit shops soon there is no way I would pay current asking price (even in USA) for 10.1v!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gogol:
Asus Transformer uses IPS display while GT 10.1v uses LCD (TN?).

For the screen alone, I will choose Asus :)

But yeah, I am waiting the real GT 8.9" ...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
You are right - but read carefully both posts.

Guy is saying that screen is like that in both GT 10.1's

But 10.1 (new) uses Super PLS not normal LCD or even IPS

http://bit.ly/h2smoN (+)

and that is the wan I wrote about :-) Do I say 10.1v anywhere??? ;-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kwagga:
Well, officially the device is being touted as being able to playback Full HD content, besides looking at the 10.1v predecessor the original Galaxy Tab, that was able to do quite a lot of formats with ease - anyone else care to comment?

An HDMI slot would've been a big plus, but it's not a deal breaker. What is, is the lack of a MicroSD slot, reason being, it only has 16GB memory, about 14GB will be user-accessible. The lack of Gorilla Glass is a deal breaker for me personally, since I know how easy it is for non-reinforced glass to pick up fingerprints and small scratches.

USB ports would've been nice, expanding the storage to virtually any amount, it would also have been helluva convenient to be able to shift data wherever you are, (when WiFi isnt available).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not shooting the 10.1v down, these are merely my opinions. The Tab 10.1v's only real claim to fame, is the 8 Megapixel camera, and if you see the hand-on vids on youtube, some people are saying the video recording quality is worse that some cheap 720p camcorders.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] galtom:
10.1 has micro sd slot :-) Again - you did not read my post or you did not understood my post. I am not talking about 10.1v as it is worse than almost any other tablet coming but about new!!! 10.1.

Well, officially the device is being touted as being able to playback Full HD content, besides looking at the 10.1v predecessor the original Galaxy Tab, that was able to do quite a lot of formats with ease - anyone else care to comment?

It can play fullHD content BUT only if this content is in quite specific format. This means it will not play "anything" like Archos or old GT 7".

Problem is Tegra 2 not software. Now I am sure about this. Issue is well known since Tegra 2 is in Xoom and non of the companies involved (Motorola, Nvidia and Google) has commented this case in any way.

If it would be only software issue (for example fixable by new VLC) Moto would be first one to shout - buy it!!! It (Xoom) will do it it just needs a codec,soft, etc... or Nvidia.... since a lot of new tablets are coming with their SoC's inside.

Since they are all quite this means issue is REAL, issue is not something that can be fixed by software, the less "we" (companies involved) will talk about it the better.

So.... Tegra 2 plays full HD and it is true "from a certain point of view..." :-)

The only question here is what will be inside of updated GT 10.1 Exynos or Tegra?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kwagga:
Apologies, my brain is stuck on Tab 10.1v since it's the only one that'll be coming to South Africa any-time soon.

According to this, http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2806&view=1&c=samsung_gt-p7100_galaxy_tab_10.1_64gb , it's going to be a Exynos 4210, and if you are correct, I would also want the better chip for any format playback.