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[General Questions and Answers] MaFi0s0:
This is for comparison on brands of Android phones. Observations are from general trends across different models, odd cases or low % problems are not taken into account.

HTC

Pros:

Frequent updates to Android builds.

Teflon housing.

Good positional sensors.

Much better customer support.

Cons:

Mediocre touchscreen sensors, although new models good-excellent, older ones poor.

Samsung

Pros:

Excellent touchscreen sensors

Cons:

Poor Android build updates.

Poor-terrible positional sensors, gyroscope, compass, accelerometer.

Touch screens not scratch proof.

Havent had any experience with other brands, please discuss and I will keep this post updated.
[General Questions and Answers] ppcmaster1:
That\s an interesting observation, though i assume the newest models of each company are better and badder :)
[General Questions and Answers] cordoni:
HTC:

Frequent updates to the most current version of Android

Samsung:

Few if any updates to most current version of Android. Usually Samsung devices are one Android version behind, if not two.
[General Questions and Answers] ErOR22:
-HTC-

-Good build quality

-SENSE UI is great as a stock launcher

-Camera can be better

Haven't owned any other brand Androids.
[General Questions and Answers] Sugarkryptonite:
What about the Nexus S as a Samsung device, or does everyone around here consider that a Google device?
[General Questions and Answers] I Am Marino:
HTC is constant on their updates is probably the biggest pro.
[General Questions and Answers] argony90:
I've got since nearly an Month an HTC Desire HD.

With Custom Roms, Rooted, etc. its so much better than any other Phones I saw.

Its Qualitativly rly great, everything looks great, akkucase is great (the place where its hold in :D) and dont know.

But when i buy me a new when, i would take maybe the new SonyEricsonAndroid or LG Optimus Speed (2x).
[General Questions and Answers] Logiic:
I am loyal to HTC brand phones mainly because I've had the fewest problems with them (Android or otherwise) but I would have to say for me, the biggest con for every Android HTC that I've heard of or used personally is the terrible battery life. This is especially true for a stock HTC without root.
[General Questions and Answers] egorgoblin:
Desire HD, custom rom, huge amount of tweaks....
[General Questions and Answers] MaFi0s0:
Samsung I would say, I do own both nexuses and they each have strong similarities to other makes in the brand, the benefit though is you get android build updates asap.

Well yes but usually it happens all relatively, and I found it definitely to be the case looking into HTCs latest major phone which is the Desire HD.

I did some research on touchscreens,

Samsung get their sensors from a Taiwan company called Sintek Photronic

HTC get them from an American company called Synaptics

Nexus One and HTC Desire are using an older generation of sensors (ClearPad 2000) where Desire HD is using the ClearPad 3000. The 3000 although acceptable in terms of usability they still contain minor quirks and the vast majority of HTC phones on the shelves at stores contain the older touch sensors.

I would not say HTCs build quality is of note(yet, I need a consensus), I would put it on par with Samsung's. The teflon housing gives an impression of superior build quality although not the same thing, even though it does give the phone significant longevity, it is for the materials used not how they are put together, I have seen HTC phones with for example the track sensor not centred for the opening in the case although working, and I have heard stories of the phones screen cracking with HTC acknowledging this.

"People sometimes forget that they don't go in pockets," said HTC.

And dust under the screen issues aswell.

BTW, HTC AMOLED panels are supplied by Samsung, how nice of them. :)

But they have switched to Sony for SLCD due to the shortage.

HTC tend to have their CPUs run at rated clockspeeds, and Motorolla tend to underclock their CPUs according to this article on comparisons:

http://www.tested.com/news/htc-vs-motorola-vs-samsung-who-builds-the-best-android-phones/1345/

Hence the battery lives.
[General Questions and Answers] MaFi0s0:
I Checked out my friends incredible s today, after a brief touchscreen comparison with my nexus s it felt on par with it, infact I got my nexus s to screw up a bit which I hadnt seen before, it wasnt much of a test but I think synaptics could be on its way to having possibly the best touch screens as it is a massive improvement in quality over the nexus one and even desire.

Another thing, my nexus s screen is not scratch proof.

With everything in consideration now I think HTC is far superior to samsung overall for android phones.
[General Questions and Answers] kivi90:
Compared

I also compared Samsung and HTC my sister got her HTC Desire Z 4 weeks ago and my father has his Samsung Galaxy S for 2 month or something like that he had some problems with a broken speaker and it was quite difficult to talk to someone in the helpcenter who could help him ( this time we didnt know that it was an hardware failure) My sis is not the fittest in handling with smartphones and she had some questions converning her new phone and she got very fast a employed that helped her so i would prefer HTC too
[General Questions and Answers] madshad:
I would glue 106 samsung android phones together to make a step stool to reach 1 htc android phone sitting on a shelf just out of reach.
[General Questions and Answers] ErockGineer:
Personally I believe HTC blows Samsung out of the water. I've had both and the biggest downfall with Samsung is there update policy. You never get updates. I gave up waiting for Froyo so I went to the HTC Evo 4G and now with the killer Rom from xxxvirusxxx I'm running Android 2.3 Gingerbread !!
[General Questions and Answers] MaFi0s0:
Its sad no one can offer some insight into motorolla, next time I get the chance and I have time at the shops I will try take a look at one and check out its touch sensor panel, general hardware, and check if the demo has scratches on the screen.
[General Questions and Answers] johnston9234:
Motorola has a strict policy on locked bootloaders coupled with bad update schedules. I would steer clear of them unless your buying the new Vanilla Android device coming to Virgin Mobile.
[General Questions and Answers] InfiniteStorm:
I have a samsung galaxy s captivate... one of the best phones i've ever owned :)
[General Questions and Answers] aaa:
HTC produces the best Androids.

HTC would be the perfect manufacturer if they could put AMOLED back to their phones just as the good ol' Desire (before it decided to use SLCD) and unlock the phones, which they has promised.
[General Questions and Answers] Ingar:
I have a HTC Desire and a Samsung Galaxy S at work, they feel mostly the same but the Samsung is somehow a bit laggy sometimes.

And my brother has a Huawei U8800 and i would still have the HTC over that one as well.
[General Questions and Answers] MaFi0s0:
Finally got around to checking out a Motorolla, the new Razr.

Could not really conclude much as it is a new gen phone without much to compare it with. So I am just gonna mention my observations.

It straight away looks and feels very well built but soon gave the impression of "just not a HTC".

Assembled in China is embossed into the kevlar at the back, dont know why this is not a sticker seeing as though the company is American and not Chinese.

The phone is top heavy meaning the weight is at the earpeice so when you hold it, it feels unbalanced, although not as bad as the nexus one.

They claim it is waterproof to a rating that suggests you could safely use it in the shower but I dont think anyone has tried yet and the owner did not want to be the 1st.

The volume and power buttons did not feel clicky, they rather felt rubbery, and the volume button placed in a non intuitive position as a tiny rocker, I imagine the lack of feedback on the buttons is either due to how thin the phone is or it being waterproof, this is nitpicking though but an observation none the less.

The edges of the phone are made of plastic, I imagine this is due to reception reasons or to absorb a drop.

Comparing the pentile screen to an iPhone 4 and nexus S(slcd) and Desire all side by side, the color reproduction is inbetween the nexus S and the Desire, tending more towards the Desire with overly rich but not neon greens, the white balance was also slightly off.

The text sharpness was practically as good as the SLCD nexus S and iPhone's.

The touch sensor used was quiet good, not as good as the iPhone's though which seems to still be years ahead somehow :(

It registered atleast 10 simultaneous touches like a tablet would, it was not impressive but could not find any major faults.

Did not get the chance to test the compass, GPS etc but will hear back from the owner and update this post.
[General Questions and Answers] adisonliew:
Anyone knows what model and make is this mobile phone from?

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i'll post up some pics in a while

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[General Questions and Answers] MaFi0s0:
The one on the right looks like a rebadged Sony Ericsson.
[General Questions and Answers] carsalbuja:
Samsung superior. Downside is that they are very very slow on updating softwares ..
[General Questions and Answers] adisonliew:
is this really the samsung superior? i've problem with this phone atm seems like the firmware is not so user friendly. no wifi tether, hangs etc...:mad:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] matd20012001:
hi i have been having problems to run task 29

i connect my phone to pc via usb cable...n in the phone it shows two option in the notification bar 1)usb debugging connected (select to disable usb debugging) 2)usb connected (select to copy files to/from computer)

so when i run Task 29 frm computer it says ERROR (260) Connection and says usb cable is not plug into phone or pc ???

Do i need extra app in phone to allow activsync? or some sofware in PC??

would appreciate your help:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cazper210:
try from bootloader hold power and volume down until u see the tri color screen and then run the update utility
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sophialyu:
Is there any way to open .exe file on the lapdock???

;0
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alphadog00:
You know how they say there are no dumb questions..... well this one is. But i will answer it :)

exe files are windows executables. Neither the phone nor the lapdock runs windows, so no you can't open an exe on the lapdock.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
lol. This was kind of funny.

But actually I haven't looked to much in the developer section but can't he use the Ubuntu webtop mod then install WINE on it and then run the .exe file.

I'm not sure about this.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danboard:
I don't believe WINE has support for the tegra 2 platform yet. I could be wrong though.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vbhines:
In other words, just change the file extension to something that Linux can run.

<sorry, couldn't resist>
[Thunderbolt General] McLabia:
I think the biggest complaint can be summed up this way. For HOW the Bolt was shipped, most people feel that they shouldnt have to tweak ANYTHING for it to last them all day. I, to a point agree, however, with that said look at any new computer. Can you pull it out of the box and just run it? Sure you can and it will work well for the AVERAGE user. Now, someone with more knowledge will want MORE out of their computer. Its the same with the battery life. Those of us that use it MORE will see crappy battery life. Why? Because were using it more.

Tips/tricks/apps and what not are for people that are going to use their phone MORE than the AVERAGE user will. My mom gets two days out of her Droid 2 before she has to charge it. ALL of her settings/themes/everything is stock out of the box and never bump charged. My sister has the EXACT same phone and was getting a single day use out of it. I installed JD on both of their phones, and my sister gets a little over a day and a half and my mom gets about two and a half days. My mom RARELY touches her phone while my sisters constantly using it. Two separate users, two separate charge times. One gets amazing battery life, the other complains about how short the battery lasts.

So, if you use your phone more than the AVERAGE user, expect below average battery life. This phone IS a battery hog, I will say that, but then again, my phones in my hand and Im playin with it every chance I get. ;-)

On this one, both parties are right and wrong. So agree to disagree, take the steps to get better battery life or move on. Its getting redic with the amount of threads there are dedicated to this topic.

YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOURSELF INTO WHEN YOU GOT THE PHONE.

Here are some links for you.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1027802

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1022434

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4xPfL8Fs

http://www.verizonwireless.com/thunderbolt-trade-extended-battery-2750-mah-cover.shtml

http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/300920-post-ways-get-awesome-battery-life.html
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
[Thunderbolt General] magneticzero:
Different radios, different processors,different screen types = different power consumption
[Thunderbolt General] Zyxwvu44:
I did notice on the stock fimware before i rooted that the idle usage was virtually nothing. WAY better than my vibrant was. It seems since ive rooted and undervolted ive lost some battery life, but man the performance is so worth it.

Anyway, we are carrying around full computers with broadband speeds. im not complaining about battery life.
[Thunderbolt General] Forgetfull:
If only.

My Bolt's (stock, rooted, custom rom, whatever) idle drain is about 36-40mA with bounces up to 90mA quite frequently.
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
Ok guys I apologize. A week ago I setup the current widget on 2 thunderbolt units here at the local Verizon store. Both collected data for a full week.

I just looked at the data and both phones stay at 34mA during idle time. Day after fly, over and over the results were identical, on both units. And they stayed on during the night too!

The bad part is that I did the same on the stock inspire at ATT, and that phone hit 1-3mA doing the same idle use. Which is a superb result. My nexus one stays around 5 mA.

So no wonder the thunderbolt sees worst battery life. You are gonna have to try a different ROM, or remove the crap stuff running.

Interesting though, perhaps Verizon has something running on the ROM. Go stock!
[Thunderbolt General] mchaos:
I had good battery capacity when mine was stock. It would last all day. Now if I played with the thing constantly it wouldn't. Using it here and there, I would never hit yellow.

I have tweaked it to get more batt life. I keep the screen on low setting unless I am outside and can't see it. Keep GPS/BT/WIFI off until i need it, and I shut the screen off when I am not actively using it. If you go under information, the screen uses the most battery life. Nothing to do with sense. Even GPS didn't come close to the screen usage. So I make sure the screen is off unless I am actively using it.
[Thunderbolt General] jlevy73:
Hmm, that's not good. I can confirm that both my Nexus One and nexus S draw about 5mA. Any thoughts on what might be causing the bolt to draw 7 times the amount of power. Is there any way to monitor it?
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
I really don't know what the reason is other than to say its just the stock ROM. In the other battery thread multiple people posted saying their thunderbolt only hit 30mA during idle. So I was skeptical but not anymore. Particularly because both working devices I checked had such damn similar results, both a little over 30mA. And there was a ton of data, from 2 devices, matching what this forum claims. Only suggestion is use another ROM.

Related story though. Previously I used the same ROM install for 5 months on my n1, and at the end the phone would only hit 50mA during idle over night. Presumably from just months of my data, app installs, etc. Clean flash took it right back to 5mA. Even with all apps re installed. So there is something to lots of crap loaded. Anecdotal, but proof enough for me.
[Thunderbolt General] bigunzec:
the biggest battery hog for me is the screen, as long as you turn it off when your not using it and keep the auto - lock to 15s battery shouldnt be an issue for anyone
[Thunderbolt General] stevessvt:
ALso, Juice Defender Beta has been updated on the market, and works well with the TB now.
[Thunderbolt General] Killershade:
I'm running the Virus Rom with Adrynalyne's 4.1b Kernel and I **** you not, last night I left my phones screen on (because its set to never dim but I should have the app control that now that I think of it) for 8 hours while I slept. Woke up and looked over at my phone lying on my nightstand with the screen on, picked it up and it was at 20% battery left. I think I passed out when it had 80% but I can't be sure (damn this Kraken Rum)

Either way. People with battery life complaints. I...I pity you.
[Thunderbolt General] rizzomegav:
I'm gettin 12 hours out of my TB

That's about the same as I got off my OG Droid

this is not a signature I type it in every time maybe sent from my phone or my computer
[Thunderbolt General] sgtguthrie:
I'm getting about the same as my d1 running gingerbread. I'm still getting the extended battery too though. VZW is giving it to me for 18 dollars...

sent via rooted THUNDERBOLT using Tapatalk
[Thunderbolt General] cwininger:
disagree with most of this. i had a droid x prior and am using this device exaclty as much as i did that one. my battery life if HALF what the x was. and before you ask, i've had 4g toggled off continuously for the last week and have seen only marginal improvement.

i realize the t-bolt and the x have different processors/screens/radios, etc, but all-in-all they are pretty close performance-wise when i comes to everyday use. i can see the t-bolt having marginally worse battery life than the droid x, that would be a reasonable expectation. but HALF? sorry, not buying it.

i can't think of any other explanation than that the firmware

htc pushed out on this thing is flawed. not a dev though, so maybe i'm dumb...
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
If anything you should see improved battery life since the newer snap dragon is more power efficient, etc.
[Thunderbolt General] McLabia:
In the end, were talking about the Bolt, not the X. The X in this case is 100% irrelevant. You can disagree all you want, but my point still stands strong.
[Thunderbolt General] Hellzya:
No battery complaints here. Half on 3g and half on 4g. This is with the htc extended battery. Running chingys rom with ziggy's latest bfs kernel oced to 1.49. Kik running the whole time.

Sent from a signal
[Thunderbolt General] gregdalfonso:
You can't compare the X to the thunderbolt. The X has a bigger battery to begin with, so you can't judge power efficiency based on uptime.
[Thunderbolt General] cwininger:
i'm not following you logic here. the droid x is a direct competitor. we're talking apples to apples here. it's significantly better in the battery area. i had an original droid before that and it was much better. how can that be irrelevant?

your notion that "this is just how smartphones are. you knew what you were getting so deal with it" is just plain wrong. we are discussing whether the battery life on the thunderbolt is a weakness or not. look at posts #5 and #6! you're telling me that's normal?

the idea that there are more people praising battery life on this thing than are complaining about it is wrong too. pop over the the htc forums and see the number one beef is over there. go into a verizon store and mention "thunderbolt battery life" to a tech and watch them roll their eyes.

bottom line: the thunderbolt is great in a lot of ways, but for a large percentage of us the battery life is pretty crappy, and for no good reason.
[Thunderbolt General] GoldenCyn:
How about we stop complaining and start a poll to figure out which Rom has the best batter life for us more than average users.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] th3_g00b:
As mentioned before....different battery sizes. It's not apples to apples.... Usage of the phones can be similar but when u have a 1400 vs 1540.... That not apples to apples. So far using virus Rom with ziggy's bus kernel, I'm going 16 hours at 59% with moderate usage (browsing, texting, occasional words game play) as far as idle...haven't checked. Will update when I do.
[Thunderbolt General] cwininger:
i meant apples-to-apples in the sense that both phones should draw similar power and are capable of similar usage.

besides, a 10% larger battery is providing 60% more battery life? how does that add up? i don't necessarily think the problem is with the size of the battery, i think the problem is more likely with something in the utilization.

btw, i'm running das bamf 1.4 with adrynalyne's kernel, did all the tweaks, tried juice defender and did the bump charge. i'm not getting anything like the battery life some of you guys are reporting and judging from the conversations going on elsewhere a lot of others aren't either.
[Thunderbolt General] jlevy73:
Yes, you are correct that the issue lies in the utilization. I have copied and posted a posted from Roger Podacter from earlier in this thread"

RogerPodacter

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Ok guys I apologize. A week ago I setup the current widget on 2 thunderbolt units here at the local Verizon store. Both collected data for a full week.

I just looked at the data and both phones stay at 34mA during idle time. Day after fly, over and over the results were identical, on both units. And they stayed on during the night too!

The bad part is that I did the same on the stock inspire at ATT, and that phone hit 1-3mA doing the same idle use. Which is a superb result. My nexus one stays around 5 mA.

So no wonder the thunderbolt sees worst battery life. You are gonna have to try a different ROM, or remove the crap stuff running.

Interesting though, perhaps Verizon has something running on the ROM. Go stock!
[Thunderbolt General] th3_g00b:
Ok so checking back in, I idle at about 44... And do we have evidence that 10% battery size increase gives a good amount more of battery usage? Not instigating from a previous post, actually curious if anyone has seen this other than on the Droidx/Thunderbolt
[Optimus One, P500, V General] zanywood:
Can anyone tell me if this is the right forum for LG optimus us
[General Questions and Answers] lucasarran:
Has anyone ported the Sony Xperia Play Live Wallpaper which shows the classic Sony PSP wave wallpaper? :)
[General Questions and Answers] ppcmaster1:
Hi man, i believe they have more information here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1025087
[Xperia Play General] chonkey:
Hi

The home screen on my play does not rotate to landscape - is this by design? Sure I've seen a review photo where the game pad is open and the home screen is in landscape...

Other than that, isyncr and cubed mean I don't need my ipod.. (just a better headset)

Cheers
[Xperia Play General] johnsongrantr:
3 options

1) disable auto open when slider opens in the "xperia play" app and it will start opening in landscape mode

2) download a 3rd party home replacement like "launcher pro" and there is an option in there to use the rotate to landcape mode based off device orentation, if you disable it it still opens in landscape when slider opens

3) ensure "auto rotate screen" is either diabled or enabled in settings>display settings