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[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roirraW "edor" ehT:
It would probably be easiest to flash [ROM][GPL][3/15/2011] xtrSENSE5.0.1 [cache2cache,apps2sd,oc,jit]-HTC Sense. It is extremely close to stock but has all the advantages including having Apps2SD built in. You can read zach.xtr's instructions for using Apps2SD under AndroidOS 2.1 in that first post in a section that's titled "Apps2sd and Cache2sd:".
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattamous:
Are you currently running this rom? If so, have you come across an problems with it yet?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roirraW "edor" ehT:
The last version of this I used was v4.6.5, just less than a couple months ago. Before that I had run many versions of it and xtrROM. At the moment I'm using GSB v2.7.

I don't recall any problems with xtrSENSE at all, it's the ROM I recommend the most to people who ask for a recommendation.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattamous:
I appreciate that. I'll continue to research it and take your recommendation into consideration. Just a little hesitant to roms still but if I want to better my eris, looks like I need to jump the gun a little.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doogald:
xtrSENSE is a fantastic ROM and I also recommend it to anybody new to rooting, unless they are specific in wanting to get away from Sense at all costs, or needs something like Google Voice Search/Actions (which requires Froyo or better).

I have one issue with xtrSENSE, but it seems to be unique to me: after running the ROM for a while, the phone becomes erratic about reminders for items in my calendar. For example, if I have a meeting at 4:30 pm and have a reminder set to 15 minutes, after running these ROMs (xtrSENSE, xtrROM and stock, actually) for a while, they may or may not sound the reminder at 4:15 pm, as desired. Sometimes they do, often they don't - often, they will fire off at some random time hours later, and even rarely never remind me at all until I restart the phone, and then they all start pouring in.

This was the major reason why I finally rooted a few weeks after 2.1 finally came to the Eris last year.

I have never seen anybody else report this issue with xtrSENSE, though, so I continue to recommend it to others. It's great advantage is that if you have been running stock, it will look and feel just the same, except faster, with better battery life, without the lag that happens with stock as your text message and call log grows.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roirraW "edor" ehT:
That's because your Eris runs outside the normal space-time continuum.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattamous:
So, after looking into both xtrROM and xtrSense, I'm not sure which would be the better idea. I don't have to have sense but both sound like they would be great roms. Also, should I stick with 2.1 or jump higher to 2.2 or even 2.3??
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roirraW "edor" ehT:
It would probably be best if you just start flashing some of them to see for yourself. Keep in mind that without the Sense home, the phone will feel a little different, plus not be able to use the Sense widgets. Since you already have experience with Sense, flash xtrROM and see how you like it. Then I would personally just skip right over 2.2 and go to 2.3 since it's essentially fully developed now.

I'm personally using GSB (soon to flash v2.8) and Tazz's Gingerbread ROM get's rave reviews, too.

Try a few ROMs and find out what you like best.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattamous:
What's the best back up app? Or, with Astro and a nandroid, would that be good enough?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roirraW "edor" ehT:
As far as backing up your apps and/or their settings, I swore by My Backup Pro for quite a long time but since going to Gingerbread, I've taken advantage of Titanium Backup's ability to restore apps to where they were backed up from (not applicable to the stock ROM), which is handy for me because using Gingerbread's (or Froyo's) native Apps2SD, I have a total of 190 user and system apps.

I don't know if they've added any feature like that in My Backup. If they have, then it would have been very recently.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Illutian:
Personally, I use cyanogen as my rom and nandroid to backup the phone...you know in case the rom fubars the phone.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Diggy1584:
I use titanium back up and copy my sdcard to my computer before doing a wipe also make a nandroid copy there as well.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattamous:
I went with My Backup Pro and made a copy of my sd card to my laptop. I was trying this technique last night but it had an error at the end of the command prompt.

http://www.askstudent.com/how-to/resolve-phone-storage-space-is-getting-low-on-android-phones/
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roirraW "edor" ehT:
I see this at that link:

You said you're on rooted stock, and those instructions are for 2.2+ ROMs only so it won't help you unless you since flashed another ROM. Have you? If so, which one?

Also, those instructions are purely to help move apps which normally wouldn't allow you to move them, which as I might've said Titanium Backup (paid version) will allow you to do by the Batch, and the free "Install Manager" may allow you to do so in batch, too, I've just read.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattamous:
Somehow, I must have missed that. I haven't flashed anything just yet; I was hoping that would do the trick before I went to flashing a rom. I downloaded the free version of titanium last night but it wouldn't backup, saying that I didn't have busybox. I downloaded busybox afterwards but it had a few warnings right at the beginning that I wasn't sure about so that's why I went with backup pro. I just checked into install manager but it isn't in the market.

With the help you have already given, is there a set of instructions for the nandroid backup process? I'm kinda interested in xtrROM but want to get all my ducks in a row before I flash it. Thanks for the help! Appreciate it!
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roirraW "edor" ehT:
BusyBox is included with any custom ROM, another reason it's just easier to flash a ROM like xtrSENSE or xtrROM as you mentioned, although with Apps2SD under Android 2.1, you need to backup the entire contents of your SD card, repartition it to include an Ext2 partition and 0 (zero) Swap, and the rest FAT32 as normal. All can be done from Recovery.

What method did you use to root? I'm assuming that whatever method you used installed a custom recovery. To make sure you do have a custom recovery, turn the phone off, press and HOLD the volume up button and press the End button long enough to turn the phone on. Keep holding the volume up button for a few seconds longer. When it goes into recovery if you have Amon RA recovery it should say something like amon-ra-eris-1.6.2 at the bottom.

In Amon RA recovery, reference http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=648025 there are these menu options:

To make a nandroid, just choose the "Backup/Restore" menu with your trackball, then choose "Nand backup".

The Market search is quirky. Here's a link to Install Manager on the market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.beidl.chooseloc.

Install Manager or anything else having to do with Apps2SD won't do you any good without either flashing the Apps2SD script from recovery, or flashing a custom ROM that includes Apps2SD.

You can find the most important information via links from the Eris Roll-up Thread.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattamous:
Thank you very much! A huge help! I used the 1 click Eris root.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattamous:
Flashed xtrROM based on your recommendation and so far its pretty rad. Really smooth and quick too.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T3CH9ICIAN:
im looking for some info working with a droid eris used 1click method to root ive got the 2.2 froshedyo 11 rom the kernel is 2.6.29 DECAFUCTCFS-dirty the person im doing this for really wants the HTC widgets back so im looking and getting a good feel about the xtrsense5.0.1 rom but the only thing im not sure of is wiping sd ext partition is that something i need to do or is that only if im planning on using the app2sd im alil lost about that part and the whole partition process id ask there but not enough posting yet to do so the recovery is the RA-eris-v1.6.2 so there i should b good to go thanks for any and all info out there
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doogald:
If you have Froshedyo now, there is absolutely no reason to wipe sd ext. Froshedyo uses a different method for apps2sd - it creates a hidden folder on the SD card called .android_secure and uses it as a virtual storage area. The 2.1 based ROMs like xtrSENSE use a method where you specifically create a small ext partition on your SD card, in addition to the standard FAT32 partition, and "wipe ext" is used to wipe that ext3 partition.

That said, choosing the menu option when there is no ext3 partition to wipe will do nothing wrong.

Download xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip and copy it to the SD card, restart in Recovery, and do the following steps:

- Nandroid backup (just in case)

- wipe data/factory reset

- wipe Dalvik cache

- flash a zip, and choose xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip

When that completes successfully, restart the phone and you'll be all set. Just note that the first boot can take a little while - 5 to 10 minutes or so.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T3CH9ICIAN:
thanks for the great response i mainly work on my bros EVO and my fascinate and the eris is a bit diffrent but im absolutly familiar with wipe flash routine but appreciate the info in not needing to partition the sd card before i flash the rom will save me time thanks again
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doogald:
You're welcome. Too much info is always better than not enough, and you never know - we always see first flashers who had no idea that they need to wipe data first, if they are going to a completely different ROM.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] desmobedo:
hi,

can I install the original SE virtual keyboard on CM7?

the new one is too small :D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] evilbarcode:
Hey bro,

So am i right in saying that you want the stock SE virtual keyboard on the CM7 rom, instead of the android 2.3.3 keyboard? That should be possible. I mean the only thing that i can see that would stop it working is if the resolutions wern't right then it wouldn't install at all, but since the resolutions haven't been changed in CM7 then you should be good.

If im wrong please someone correct me.

Cheers,

evilbarcode?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] desmobedo:
thx for reply evil ;)

yes, for me the original keyboard is better :)

maybe the oiginal should be fixed or the new one is preferred, don't know :)

I asked for owain in a PM, but he doesn't reply...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] desmobedo:
I'm too n00b :p

just long press on text and select input method---> standard :p
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] evilbarcode:
Lol i didnt know that haha, your thread and im thanking you lol

Cheers bro,

evilbarcode.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
My $670 Atrix turns into a $200 G1 when I decide to run a live wallpaper. Scrolling becomes nightmare-ish (especially on the Starlight live wallpaper), and the 3D App screen comes up with 1-2 frames per second, or something to that effect.

I'm using Launcher Pro Plus. Unrooted, undeodexed. This isn't why I bought the "world's most powerful phone". Any solutions?

EDIT: This is exactly what I'm talking about:

[YOUTUBE]jteW8ud9GOM[/YOUTUBE]

See how choppy the transitions and "apps fly in" transition is when you bring up the app drawer on a live wallpaper?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gutterball:
I would say something is maybe wrong with the phone itself. I can run any live wallpaper perfectly whether on stock or modded roms. Can you exchange it for another one still?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I "can" run it, but the homescreen-to-App-drawer animations become choppy, and scrolling down the apps become noticeably choppy as well.

What have you done with your phone so far?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gutterball:
Well I would say the best thing you could do is root it and install gingerblur.Gingerblur can remove all that att bloat slowing it down and plus it gives you options of having hulu, webtop hack, sideloading etc. Also what firmware are you on 4.1.57 or 4.1.26 if your on the latter I would definetly update. Even if you dont wanna root and mod then an update will definetly improve your situation over crappy 4.1.26 its known to be more laggy.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Well I have the Bell Atrix (the one with no development at all)... not sure Gingerblur would work, but thanks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gutterball:
Well actually you can now deodex by using this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1013093 and you can also have webtop using this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12250126&postcount=459 and you probably could update it. go into your about phone settings and check and see if there is one available. Also you could root it using this method http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1016060 which should also let you enable sideloading and tethering. Thats not a bad choice of stuff to have. It's not gingerblur but still all worthy things to do and have.:D
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mchimney:
Same thing here, my atria slows down soo much with a live wallpaper, kinda sad
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I really, really hate Motorola now. I should have gone for the Nexus S, but no 720p recording is just unforgivable.... but then again it costs $100 less.

Oh, and the Tegrazone games are NOT worth getting an Atrix. At all. Screen is not big enough to notice the difference anyway, and there are way too many good "non-Tegra" Android games.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ElCamino:
I really like my Atrix, but now might take it back to Best Buy. Data speed is to slow and I use my mobile hotspot connection daily for work. I went back to my white iPhone 4 for now, because sending documents back to the office was taking to long on the Atrix.

Again, I really like the Atrix phone but going to return it and pre-order the BlackBerry PlayBook. I know 2 wrongs don't make a right.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fountainhead931:
Guys mine runs fine with live wallpaper, stock 1.5.7.

I think a new rom for a system slowdown is a little extreme.

Try searching this forum for solutions before attempting a rom fix.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KingKuba13:
I'm running a stock Bell one and no slow down with live wallpapers.

The only lag I ever see is the first few seconds when it loads up.

Is this doing it for all live wallpapers?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
With all live wallpapers:

- Phone takes about 4 seconds to respond to a wake up power button push.

- App drawer icons fly in animation is choppy.

- App vertical scrolling is choppy.

With some live wallpapers (e.g. Starlight):

- Choppy homescreen swiping.

When I go back to a non-Live wallpaper, everything's smooth and fast again. Mine is a Bell ATRIX so I don't have 1.5.7
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
Im in the same boat as you. As soon I run a live wallpaper the phone turns crap. Using the free launcher pro on gingerblur and version 1.57 so deodexed and no bloatware doesn't help. Living in aus makes this difficult to return too
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HungryEel:
I think there is something wrong with starlight due to our screen's resolution.

Other live wall paper seen to work fine on my phone but starlight lags the home screen swiping.

I've noticed that with stralight, when you swipe to the next screen, the background swipes past the next screen's background just a little bit and jumps back (no matter how slowly or fast you swipe to the next screen)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
True. That only happens with Starlight. But what about the others? The Apps drawer flies in with a very choppy animation, and the same can be said about the vertical scrolling.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
When using the nexus S wallpaper that comes with gingerblur, the lag is not as bad as when using paper forest but its still annoying and simply appalling for the worlds most powerful smart phone
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Good, I'm starting to think this isn't something unique to my Atrix -that it's not defective.

I just cannot believe a Tegra 2 phone would STRUGGLE so badly with live wallpapers. Unbelievable. I will sell this POS once the new HTC EVO 3D arrives (provided it has good battery life).
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gutterball:
All i know is.. I'm running anipet aquarium with a whole ****load of fish with them swimming at various speeds and it runs perfect and causes no lag at all. Maybe it is a starlight problem cause I'm on gladiatrix with all possible mods(webtop,hdmi,hulu,multitouch keyboard etc.) and I have no problems on launcherpro or stock motoblur. You bell customers probably need an update. Theres a difference between 4.1.26 and 4.1.57 for those of us on att. Bell just gotta get there asses in gear!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I just tried out anipet aquarium. Made the homescreen swiping noticeably less smooth, and of course hitting the app drawer button brought a choppy fly in animation.

So are you saying it was laggy on 4.1.26 with live wallpapers and became smooth after the update? Coz DarkRyoushii has the update and is reporting an eually poor performance.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HungryEel:
all wallpapers made by the same guy, starlight, nightfall, eastern glow makes the phone laggy because i think they dont support high res screens...

Other ones like jumpgate, or twisted colors, my phone is super smooth
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I ran jumpgate. Same thing.

I just want to make it clear: The Live wallpaper is not laggy, it's the app drawer fly in effect and the vertical scrolling that gets laggy. The homescreen transitions witness a visible frame drop.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gutterball:
Honestly 4.1.26 was so laggy with anything, keys wouldn't work when pressed etc. that I just updated to 4.1.57 pretty much right away. I've only had the phone for about 3 weeks but am very happy with it :D I didnt run stock very much either though. I modded as soon as I could. My transitions between screens is flawless along with dock switching and menu browsing with live wallpaper.

Like I said there are things you can do with bell phones you should try it if you dont like it? you could always flash back to stock!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HungryEel:
I made a short video. Is this considered laggy?

http://vimeo.com/22185482
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
not to me, mine is much worse, I will try and make a short video soon..

EDIT: Uploading now.. 100KB/s for 198MB
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gutterball:
Are all you guys with lagginess owners of atrices or atrixes or is it a mixed crowd? I dont understand why people with the same phones are having 2 different results in performance? I tried to make mine slow and couldn't. Like whats been said before maybe in the first 5 seconds when everything is loading its laggy but once its running and sdcard and such is accessed its fine but thats to be expected even computers are like that when they first boot up!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
I don't understand either, yea my phone also performs badly on boot-up and until the OP posted this thread, I thought all android phones behaved with live wallpapers. (friends have the LG GT540 Optimus and SE X10i) so this has certainly opened my eyes too.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkRyoushii:
a long wait later... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jteW8ud9GOM

here. notice the lag when opening and closing app drawer
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bee55:
I have the same problem. I'm on 4.157 Gingerblur 1.2 and using LauncherPro Plus. I had to revert to normal (static?) wallpapers, because it really ruined the general speed of the launcher...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KingKuba13:
So you will be trading in for a slower performing CPU/GPU combo lol

I guess lot of apps are not optimized for our resolutions yet or tegra 2 or dual core.

I have no complains with mine yet.... did you try any benchmarks?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Techcruncher:
Mine has the same problem.

the Evo 3d's chip when overclocked 300mhz beats the tegra 2 1.5x at gaming
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
I think its because software and not hardware...see the xoom with android 3

no lag. no bugs....I think the motorola don't give a cheat to modify this android 2.2
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Silent8Strike:
I get the same thing happening to me, its driving me crazy! Once the Evo 3D comes out if there is no fix for this I am defiantly selling the Atrix. Better processor, better screen, better build quality, and no Motoblur!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blunted09:
if you guys want something with a more "sense" smoothness on the home screen try downloading "go launcher" from the market. Also, "color widgets" replaces almost every widget launcher pro has.

I cant wait to get motoblur off of this phone.

FREE THE BOOTLOADER!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maledyris:
When you say "unrooted", you mean it was rooted but you removed root? Why? Anyway, I'm on bell also and I found that freezing a lot of the stock bell and motoblur stuff really helped with performance. I use go launcher ex and my phone seems to perform fine with the free version of starlight. Maybe you're low on ram? Do you have a large amount of apps and widgets open?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emandt:
The final solution?? Do not use live wallpapers....it's easy!!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
this phone cost too much for this solution
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I didn't pay $670 for a Tegra 2 "all powerful" phone that won't let me use live wallpapers. For that price, I should be able to use the phone to do whatever the hell I want.

What is this, a G1?

Well sorry, I meant non-rooted...

I only had 2-3 widgets, and I had 3/5 homescreen completely empty. Again, for this price/specs, I should be able to use as many widgets as I want with no choppiness.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberPunk7t9:
I'm using the revamped nexus live wallpaper, with the option of new particles spawning where ever my fingers touch and I notice no lag at all.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I tried it. It causes the least choppy transition animations when compared to the other LWPs -but it's still not as seemless or as smooth as the non-Live wallpapers, but are you using Launcher Pro? If you are, I want you to tell me if the 3D App drawer is as smooth in appearing on the screen, as it is with a solid wallpaper.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Tried "Go Launcher". Same homescreen choppiness with live wallpapers.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blunted09:
Software has crippled this phone. My desire z was way faster than this phone. I'm thinking I'm gonna trade it for nexus s.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
It's a good decision. Sure Nexus S can't do HD video capture and has questionable browsing battery life (like any AMOLED phone), but it's also $100 cheaper and you'll get Ice Cream Sandwich in a month as opposed to next year.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
This is exactly what I'm talking about:

[YOUTUBE]jteW8ud9GOM[/YOUTUBE]

See how choppy the transitions and "apps fly in" transition is when you bring up the app drawer on a live wallpaper?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberPunk7t9:
Yes, Using LauncherPro.

Do mean the transition animation of going from home to app drawer? Sometimes, My eyes catch a micro-lag in that animation but never anything severe.