yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
That's strange cause I for never experienced this my self.

thank you...don't get me started on how it's sealed. Basically every inch if the car has 3 layers of sound deadning
[Epic 4G General] logikgr:
So, in other words, leave the headphone gain at -10db (default)? I usually bump up the volume to 8-12. Most of the music I listen to is not very bass heavy, mostly ligh to medium thumping. What would my settings in Voodoo or music app be like? Or what should I tweak first in order to get the best sound? Thank you for your help.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
According to ecooce clipping is not the problem. Personally I turn the amplifier to -5db and the type of music I listing to that sounds the best. I listing to a lil bit of everything from rap to country. Rap being what I listing to 65% of the time.

Just an fyi the headphone amplifier on amplifies the sound when using head phones with the 3.5mm jack. ( this includes aux cables )

I suggest playing with the amplifier to you find a setting that best suites you
[Epic 4G General] imtjnotu:
what subs are u running because i call bs....
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
Thanks, ecooce for the post, glad to know I'm not alone.

Def not gain stage clipping. More like clock/cpu stuttering when touching the screen.

mrze, Sounds like a powerful rig!
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Jl audio w7hd. they'll be on the public market sometime this year

( don't mind the time stamp. Never set it in my camera )
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Nice and clean man...

Tmuka,if its not fixed in the very next kernel release (which ever that may be) Ill get someone to look at the kernel source to see what's what...
[Epic 4G General] imtjnotu:
sorry bro....im still calling bs....what were the specs to ur box? tuning? how many watts on the amps? ive seen people rock 2 AQ 2200d's on 2 HDC3 15"s and only hit in the 150's...i have friends that rock 4 18 DC level 4's thats still barely hit into the 160's....

and i know all of the new jl hd amps this year do not go over 1200rms....unless u have a video of ur sytem on a termlab testing in the kick or dash and not the port then dont makse such false claims...
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Those 3 subs are 2,200 rms wired down to 1ohm. The cone of the sub is 14.3. Each one of those amps you see control the sub its lined up with. Those amps push out 2,500 rms with 4,600 peak. 12ga wrire for both positive and negative wires going from amp to sub. The box is tuned around those subs and tuned down to 26hrtz.

Fyi: subs are not the only speakers that produces dbs. The 13 other speakers not including the tweeters and the speakers placed on the outside of the car ( tweeters due account to db reading ) account to db rating.

everything was striped during installation and all the bear metal of the body was done work 3 layers of sound deadning. Even any hole that had no purpose on any of the doors. All the screws where re-tightening to prober torque rating and lock tight was used. The back of the dash and door panels where also covered in sound deadning. All the glass was removed and replaced with reinforced glass ( think bullet proof ) the car is 99.99999% sealed.

Next time I mic the car I will be glad to video record the therma lap at the foot rest and I'll even take a video of the flex.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Thank you
[Epic 4G General] whitedragon551:
This thread is full of audio fail.

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/general-discussion/509640-anyone-heard-w7hd.html#post7559271
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Just keep hating brother.
[Epic 4G General] whitedragon551:
No hating, just realism and real world knowledge.

You should head over to caraudio.com and register. A place where people really compete and have knowledge of audio. We would love to hear your story.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Real world knowledge on my part also. Just wait to these subs and amps are in the market later this year.

Fyi: I never said I owned the shop. I'm the lead installer. You might wanna state all the faxs on your thread there
[Epic 4G General] whitedragon551:
I never quoted anything on that thread there. If you had real world knowledge you would know that sound deadener only needs to cover 25% of the flat surface to be effective. 3 layers is over done, ineffective, and costly. So please register at caraudio.com and tell us about your build. We love new members.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
I will join when I return home sunday night since the site don't like tapatalk
[Epic 4G General] whitedragon551:
I look forward to hearing about it.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Do I know that only 25% needs to be done yes. Is it costly yes. Is it over done yes. But you do realize my car is now 99.9999% sealed leaving all pressure inside the car. It is completely sound proof as far as hearing engine noise, road noise, or anything anything else on the exterior of the car
[Epic 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
2 lms ultra 18's off 4 sundown saz-3500d's just breaks a 158 in the hatch of the eclipse.

This is tuned to 20hz though. And that's playing off music. To get a 170+ you are using high frequency test tones around 60-70hz.

A 170+ on music has not been done, DD holds the db record and its in a vehicle that is 99% concrete.
[Epic 4G General] carlosg_313:
A car that does 170db don't have the back rows in a sub. Or 3 woofers. What battery you running? And what alternator do you have? Are you able to do a hair trick at least?
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
I've never seen an eclipse hit above 155 so congrats to you for that.

I never stated this was off of music. I've only started the you're of music I listing to. I have a **** load of frequency test tones that I use for testing, tunning, and bass drags. I got every frequency that's audible to human ear that can be reproduced. One of the tracks is a smooth transition from 20hrtz to 1.6khrtz.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
I have a re-wound to 220amps stock alternator. A red top optima as my main battery. I then have 2 kienetic 400hc batteries under the hood. Behind the rear seats I have 3 1200hc and 1 800hc kienetic batteries. all battery connections where upgraded to 0/1ga wire. ( the big 3 ).

This is not my daily driver.

Hair tricks are easy but the pressure needed for hair tricks is not good for spl
[Epic 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
Test tones are geat but music is where it counts. Frankie rio, tommy mckinney, steve mick and the rest are doing big things off music. Nothing like hitting 158db at 20-30hz.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
I'm aware of this and its great that these guys can accomplish this.

Anyone know the spl rating on steve meade?
[Epic 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
Huh? Pressure, the pressure in the cabin is related to how loud the system is. SPL, sound pressure level. The louder the system the more air you are moving thus the more pressure you are creating

Hair tricks are for windows open, in legal db drag the vehicle must be sealed up.
[Epic 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
I followed meade for a bit but was not really into what he ran, not sure what he runs now though.

Me personally I'm a dd/aq man. Nothing beats the tc sounds lms ultra for flat out deep down bass.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
That's why I said the pressure for hair tricks is not good for spl ;)
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
I used to like watching his videos on you tube. I still show the people the video when the chick looses her glass eye. Its always good for a good laph
[Epic 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
Used to watch them myself a lot too. I have not really been keeping up with car audio here lately myself, work keeps me pretty busy all the time.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Car audio is my work ;) the winter was slow for us so I started working on android in my spare time. Now that the seasons are changing my time on android is decreasing
[Epic 4G General] the727kid:
Besides all your BS, that is no where near enough power to hit 170dB. And if your a "lead" installer, you should know re-wound alternators are garbage. If you were running enough power to hit 170dB you would need something more like quad 250amps to even support your battery bank, which is enough to power maybe a few thousand, not 20kw+, which would be required to even come close to 170dB, which 3 W7s would not even come close to handling.
[Epic 4G General] carlosg_313:
Dude, you ain't doing a 170 db plain and simple. Nice set up, but you ain't gotta lie to kick it.

And about Steve meade, he's got Rockford in his tahoe, his new AA SMD 18, and according to his sig in his forum,

Highest OFFICIAL SPL scores (at shows, on the TermLab) -

DBDRAG - 156.5

Usaci - 157.4

Usaci Streetbeat - 155.2
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Has anyone else noticed a decrease in microphone volume while making calls with voodoo? As of late people have been saying that it is hard for them to hear me on their end. Someone said in a different thread that they were having the same problem until they uninstalled it. I'm running SFR with the Vision Kernel.

/threadjack
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Thread cleaned, let's keep this on topic ;)
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
Yeah, I read that too. I asked @supercurio about it on twitter. He didn't think voodoo affected call audio, but I later read it was a bug in one of the epic roms. (perhaps sfr 1.0.2?) Guess I should double check now.

Also noted that although the screen touch related audio glitches are better in sfr 1.0.2, there are still slight crackles at screen off and sd IO (like pressing home in launcher pro). Wondering if people not hearing glitches have better, faster, non stock sd cards perhaps...
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Nope,class 10 here,still have all the cracks/pops...
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
I'm on SFR 1.1.0 and still have the issue. If anyone knows what post had mentioned the bug could you please link it?
[Epic 4G General] cl1ckclack:
lol Mr. 173DB is an effin idiot. no way in hell yourr hitting numbers anywhere near that. id be surprised if you were even hitting 150....
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
This is a phone forum, take this audio**** elsewhere.
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
gtk. Perhaps gpu related then, since scrolling seems to exacerbate it.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
I'm hoping someone knows what it could be and sees this thread.
[Epic 4G General] qbking77:
What he said ^^
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
I have more observations I hope can help with debugging.

In Sfr 1.0.2 + twilight 1.0.4 the primary audio glitching I notice is when using the virtual home, back, menu buttons. in other kernels that glitching also happens when touching the touch screen.

To test, start music playback with headphones (quiet songs, piano, etc, make it easier to hear), open browser, scroll around on a page, click virtual menu or back button. Notice glitching. Now try hardware kb menu key, no glitching! This makes me think its related to digitizer drivers or scheduling. Hope this helps!
[Epic 4G General] Kitteh298:
is there bass control with voodoo sound?
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
There's not a bass control, but I can tell there's a bass boost when I use it, especially in my car.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
Correct, but not because of any EQing. There is no EQ in Voodoo Control. The stronger low-end results is because of the quality increase inherent in Voodoo Sound, and the fact that it is set to drive sound directly to the DAC.
[Epic 4G General] Kitteh298:
I have yet to actually check the sound quality on voodoo sound v7 actually.... is there any eq app that is capable of filtering the sound?
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
For the entire system, I doubt it, but search the market. Your music player of choice can do it.

You may not hear Voodoo Sound's improvements if you're using horrible iBudz-like headphones, a terrible speaker dock, or a low-quality car stereo. However, if you've got good headphones (Koss KSC-75, maybe JVC Marshmellows, Grado almost anything, Sennheisers (in general), Ultrasone anything, or if you know what head-fi.org is - forget Skullcandy [except the Aviators]), a good home speaker system, or a good car stereo setup, you will hear it.
[Epic 4G General] Kitteh298:
I like pandora and iheartradio... so the music player is out.. I did this very same thing on my computer, lol.

I have an O.K. speaker system i think, it goes pretty loud and sounds wonderful. Its a logitech x-240 that i got for 50 dollars. im pretty sure its discontinued.
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
I'm using KSC-35s and 75s with the resistor mod (more info over at head-fi) and Sennheiser HD-280 Pros. :)

I just tested Vision kernel 1.2 with SRF 1.0.2. It has the same glitchy audio behavior as 1.1 on screen touch and virtual buttons. Twilight 1.0.4 remains my choice.

Kernel devs, let me know if I can be of help. I don't see anything telling in logcat...
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
I'm glad you took the time to narrow it down,I didn't have the time I wanted to test everything... Now we need to narrow down what changed from Twilight 1.02 that maybe every other kernel/kernel version added after that version...
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
Yeah, I wonder how long that diff would be.

I also tried with the built in kernel version of voodoo and supercurio's new app based voodoo kernel module loader (which is awesome!). It didn't fix the glitching bug....
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Have you switched from kernel to kernel and have this popping/cracking sound disappear and then appear again? I havnt tried yet,busy with something else on the phone right now.
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
Yes, I've tried several versions of several popular kernels, genocide, twilight, and vision. flashing twilight 1.0.4 kernel always fixes it. I haven't tried non-voodoo kernels yet, but they should work with the new voodoo module app.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Ok,good work man... Now Ill ask around to see what was diffrent from that point on in all the kernel development.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Ok tmuka,I just checked,there is no Twilight v 1.0.4, it went from 1.0.3 to 1.1,so which one was it that fixed this issue?
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
Yeah, the changelog isn't listed in the twilight thread, but the download link is there. Pretty sure its the kernel version SFR 1.0.2 shipped with.

http://www.sharebeast.com/nt9pieyodkf4
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
Oh yeah, worth mentioning that it does have a bug that causes low call mic volume, maybe that's why its unlisted. seems fine with my wired headset.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Really,1.0.2,that version is not for DL on the Twilight thread,now I need to ask why... I don't know if Ill move forward with that kernel now that you said that. But I can tell you to stay away from Vision 1.2,I think the ram being UVed is causing all kinds of corruption,and I've had 4 problems already,each time I had journaling enabled.
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
Be careful not to confuse SFR (syndicate frozen rom) 1.0.2 with twilight kernel 1.0.2, the version numbers don't correlate. Twilight kernel 1.0.4 is the version I prefer WITH Syndicate 1.0.2.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Galaxy Tuner from the app market allows access to the hardware EQ. Galaxy Tuner + Voodoo Sound = Freaking Amazing
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
I'm pretty sure there is no TZ v. 1.0.4
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Well just to let anyone that reads thread know,,, I odined using the "modded EC05.tar" converted to ext4,installed Vision 1.1,never had any pops/clicks in any of those steps,so its not the kernels that are causing the issue I'm affraid to say,because I thought we were narrowing this problem down... I'm not keeping this config,but I'm gonna keep working at what the cause is,I now think its in the ROMs,one file is causing this...
[Epic 4G General] nbutala:
thanks for working on this guys. voodoo sounds great, but the intermittent audio crackling is annoying. just wanted to confirm that other users are having the same issue that you are. srf 1.1.0 with TZ 1.1.0. your work and help is appreciated.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Just thought I'd add that I was getting the cracks/pops with various versions of ACS and Bonsai. Running stock with Genocide kernal has been near perfect. Only time I ever notice a clip in the audio is when the screen goes on and off, but it's been relatively rare and when it does happen it's very feint, nothing like the issues I was getting before.
[Epic 4G General] Custodian:
There is a fix for this that I used. Trying to dig it up.

troll stomping beast
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Please do,I wish this was easier to figure out,but I'm still guessing its a file causing this,but like I said my current config has no issues,so Ill see what all was added in the modded EC05.tar,and see what the difrences are between that and SFR 1.?
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
good research! It does seem to be a rom+kernel combo issue though, since changing kernels with the same rom changes the symptoms, right?
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
The thread that ecooce is leaving out is Voodoo Control. It's not about the ROM, but more than likely that app.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
It may make the problem less noticable,but I think kOnane is right,it just may be voodoo control. Ill be removing this the next time I install SFR to see what happens. I'm still on modded EC05.tar until I tweak MyROM some more,I need to finish this thing,Ill leave voodoo control in at first,confirm problem,then remove voodoo sound to see what happens.
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
I'm glad to help trying to rule this out. So, after uninstalling Voodoo Control Plus (I don't normally use the original Voodoo Control anymore) and rebooting, it doesn't look like having the Voodoo Control or Voodoo Control Plus app installed makes a difference.

SFR 1.0.2 + Twilight Zone Kernel 1.1 = Audio glitches on screen touch scroll (browser and market) and virtual key touch.

SFR 1.0.2 + VisionKernel 1.1 = Audio glitches on screen touch scroll (browser and market) and virtual key touch.

SFR 1.0.2 + Twilight Zone Kernel 1.0.4 = Audio glitches mainly on virtual key touch.

I didn't have the guts to try VisionKernel 1.2 again today due to the brick reports. Feeling fortunate I didn't experience issues with it the first time I tried it for a few minutes a few days ago.

I may nandroid back to stock to give that a try, although I love SFR! Hope this helps! Any other theories I can help test?
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Thanks man,its much appreciated,Ill be making a list and checking it twice ;)
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Sorry Tmuka,didn't mean to doubt you,there really is a Twilight 1.0.4,I never looked past the change log,and Tanim didn't make one for 1.0.4...
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
No worries :)
[Epic 4G General] p3dr0maz:
Thanks for looking into this. I was on the bonsai kernel and i noticed the click/pop/distortion more than when I switched over to Genocide. I also was testing by wake/sleeping the phone and scrolling in the UI. So for now at least it seems better on Genocide 1.0 so im staying there til we get more info.
[Epic 4G General] weldsmoke:
im running 1.0.4 with none of these issues
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Same here now Twilight Zone 1.0.4 , works great,clean sound once again :-)
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
I thought the name Steve Meade sounded familiar. I found some old footage of him. I'm pretty sure that's him in the Honda w/ Suga-T in the beginning. This is from the E-40 video Practice Lookin' Hard. Got Pac in it too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXtK6x9Nv38

/backontopic
[Epic 4G General] jamesosully:
I'm experiencing a similar issue. I was running Simply AOSP 3.01 w/ Genocide 1.0 and all of sudden everything coming out of my speaker was crackling and distorted. I switched over to midNight 5.2 and am still experiencing the same issues. I even tried listening to a video I took using some crappy earbuds and experienced the same distortion. I have no idea how to get this fixed.
[Epic 4G General] p3dr0maz:
Does twilight zone 1.0.4 have voodoo sound? Or is that the reason theres no issue in that kernel, because voodoo's not compiled into it? Didnt see a changelog in Tanim's post.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
No I think its built in,version 4 or 5...
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
Yes, the twilight zone 1.0.4 kernel has voodoo sound v5 built in. It also works great with voodoo sound v8 loaded dynamically by the "voodoo control plus" pay app in the market.
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
The rom + kernel combo that works for me is listed throughout this thread, that'd be one place to start...
[Epic 4G General] jamesosully:
Thank you, I'm going to have to try that out. Tonight, I've Odin'ed back to stock and still had the same issue. I've since loaded up ACE w/ Genocide for the time being. I think if I screw around with my phone any more tonight, the GF will kill me :p
[Epic 4G General] philowneus:
In my experience of screen scrolling with sound stutter the only thing that fixed it was a full format of system and sd. It could be just the sd. I have tried the system only format then odin to to stock and the screen sound stutter persists.

I had to fix it once then I showed my friend cm7. After I restored from nandroid the sound stutter came back so I was forced to reformat.

I'm running srf 1.1 with the twilight zone 1.1.
[Epic 4G General] kleeman7:
I have the same issue it does it with or without the sd card installed, I have tried genocide, vision and default kernel. Have also tried uninstalling vodoo doesnt make a difference.
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
Its unrelated to sd card for me to, I've tried with two different cards with and without full reformats.

You might want to try specifically twilight zone 1.0.4 kernel. That's the one that works for me while tz 1.1 doesn't.
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
fwiw, I just tested DRockstar.Clean.Kernel.EC05.v1.02.zip and it has the same audio glitching on screen touch and virtual buttons as TZ1.1.
[Epic 4G General] kleeman7:
I have tried all the epic kernels, plus two roms and they both/all do it. Midnight, and SFR, with TWZ, vision, genocide, DFS, they all the have issue. The only roms that did not was CM7, and MIUI, both in alpha stages so not very helpful.
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
I assume you mean the latest versions of all those kernels. You'll find Twilight Zone kernel 1.0.4 is better.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
I also tested the clean kernel and noticed the same issue,but TZ 1.0.4 is the best atm,I have no audio glitches...
[Epic 4G General] kleeman7:
1.0.4 TWZ works fantastic, i heard its due to the 72 fps cap, it changes the screen refresh rate, anyways thanks for the help.
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
Maybe off topic, but wanted to report the latest "voodoo control plus" app works on the acs rooted EE03 gingerbread leak with stock kernel!!!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] aamir123:
Im using GIMP to modify the bionix dialer pad to the green that is consistent throughout the rom. I already completed the mod but Im not too good with this editing stuff and needed help cleaning up the images a little. I attached the modified apk if someone can help?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Binary100100:
Careful... 9.png files need to be decompiled first before you can modify them.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] aamir123:
There not .9 pngs tho
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] rel500:
what are u trying to do? clean up the images or complete ?if u already made the changes then load onto phone and using astro rename it to Dialer Activity.apk, then u should just push or use Root Explorer
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] aamir123:
I'm just tring to clean up the images they seem a little pixelated
[HTC Inspire 4G] stryfe2010:
Is there a way to find out if a screen off profile in setup is actually working. Such as if I have it set to under clock the CPU while the screen is off to conserve battery power, how would I check if it's actually doing it?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] FusionSaint:
I was wondering if anyone was considering creating an LCARS theme for the new XOOM... It would seem to me that it would be the perfect product to house such a thing. However I am terrible at creation of these things or I would do it myself.

Anyone interested?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] alias_neo:
That's a nice Idea, I am a Star Trek fan, I prefer the "Tron" look though.

I might consider making something like that once I get my XOOM, a bit of old school Trek style.