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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dirkyd3rk:
I do believe the savagezen kernels are only for aosp; ive actually used this netarchy CFS NO-sbc Have LESS with HDMI and it works nice. Some phones don't like the kernels with aggressive havs or undervolting. If youre having battery issues you might want to downgrade your prl and nv from 1.90 to 1.77.

http://qap.la/~netarchy/netarchy-toastmod-4.3.4-cfs-havs-less-nosbc-universal-signed.zip
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Ah yes, that is true. Good catch.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Action B:
Thanks for all the replies.

I am not having battery issues to my knowledge.

The netarchy kernel I tried had neither havs or undervolting, it was the standard 4.3.4 kernel and it ran very badly. Unless it is possible to get a bad flash I think its not so compatible with my phone which is why I want the kernel I have now or something similar but with overclock option.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Action B:
Anyone else have any suggestions? Is it *reasonably* possible that I got a bad file or flash of the netarchy beta? If so I may try it again as it has both features I want.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
Did you flash 4.3.4 CFS or BFS? If you flashed CFS, try re-downloading it and re-flashing. If that doesn't work, try BFS. If you flashed BFS, I would still try downloading and flashing CFS and flashing that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Action B:
Unfortunately there is not a 4.3.4 netarchy kernel yet that is BFS, there is just CFS at this time. I may try to redownload it but I have to be honest I have a feeling I will get the same results I guess if there is a chance there isnt much to lose right?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstalford:
I actually thought about that, but was too lazy to check if there was a BFS or not. but, I have had bad downloads before. Strange that your phone doesn't like that kernel though, dont here that too often.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Action B:
I just flashed the netarchy kernel earlier today and it works great now. Must have been a bad download or flash???

Anyhow, I'm happy now I will probably try the HAVS versions now.
[Nook Color General] migrax:
Is Nook Color in Limbo, or are we at the cusp of something new?

I hope development for the Nook Color has not stagnated. Are we waiting for the new kernel or is there just nothing new on the horizon?

I am just wondering because I have been watching and waiting and it appears development has slowed up for the time being. Not implying anything, just looking to see if something new and wonderful is on the horizon???

I was so looking forward to Honeycomb and it seems Google has pulled the rug out from under us in some back room deal.

Hopeful

migrax
[Nook Color General] sec6:
What are you talking about? In limbo? Bluetooth, recent video fixes, new overclocked kernels, work on the next coming edition of kernel to prevent SOD. Man, you must be out of the loop or really impatient.
[Nook Color General] poofyhairguy:
The Release Candidate of CM7 came out recently. That means a final release is eminent. That final release should include all these awesome tablet tweaks:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1002000

I don't know why you say development is slowing down. I have been flashing a new ROM everyday thanks to mad-murdock!
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Im sorry, but what ARE you talking about? In the last month, both hardware accelleration for video and bluetooth were turned on. CM7 has reached release candidate stage, and our devs have said that work is progressing on both a newer kernel version, as well as fixes to the few remaining bugs. Maybe you should actually read some of those nifty development threads around here...

If i am coming off as rude... perhaps that is the intent. There are so many needless threads like this, where some reading and critcal thinking could answer alot of questions. I mean.. developent stopped? As it is, things are ramping up, and a quick read of the forum would show that. Add in the constant misleading talk about what the nook can and can't do, and it is rather frustrating. So yeah, I am venting, but i think it is well deserved.
[Nook Color General] derekr:
On the contrary, I think that things are happening real fast. CM7 is heading for a stable release, Mad Murdock's tablet tweaks are a real innovation, as are brianf21's froyo status bar improvements, and real progress is being made in the kernel area - blue tooth, hardware acceleration, etc.

What more can we ask for?
[Nook Color General] NewZJ:
only HC is at a minor hump, the rest are busy, and b&n update is dropping soon. you crazy!
[Nook Color General] lafester:
had to chime in to see what the op is smoking...

cm7: hardware video acceleration, tablet tweaks, bluetooth, kernel mods.

froyo: status bar tweaks, 'nookie-comb' looks nice, new official rom coming soon

honeycomb: who cares. google screwed that one up so we wait for IC.
[Nook Color General] lilbuddhaman:
Honestly, right now I'm in limbo about WHICH custom, daily updated, feature rich build to use !

Rooted Stock is good enough for what I do, but then a few games didn't work... so i went to froyo... then tried CM7... then a custom froyo, then another CM7... (and a few hardlocks and flash to stocks in between)..

At this point i just want a "1.0" release of CM7, or for HC to become available... although i'm sure the weeks following HC will be daily build after daily build.

p.s. kinda jealous about the $300 Tegra2 tablet floating around.
[Nook Color General] luciferii:
What madcat said

Sent via Cyanogenmod7 Encore RC4 n.35/Tapatalk Pro
[Nook Color General] rogerdugans:
roflmao

You want limbo?

My new Droid 2 Global has just one rom which works with global sim capability- flashed it shortly after I got it and no updates since.

Another crew did get D2 roms working on the D2G but no sim card use.

Nothing for months now...

My original DROID has more development work going on than THAT!

The NC has been fairly exciting as far as dev work since Christmas and the last month has been incredible...

I even saw a post fairly recently that leads me to think some folks are working on USB host.... Crossing my fingers on that one.

The last two weeks we have even had a guy working on tweaks for tablets that pretty much makes Honeycomb's issues irrelevant as far as I am concerned.

I'd say that is pretty good.
[Nook Color General] migrax:
Sorry, not the intended result.

I guess I am waiting for BN to come out with Android 2.2, I wasn't denegrating all the hard work that has gone on here. A couple of developments have kinda skewed my perceptions, one of which is Honeycomb source being yanked, and the other is of course the expected update from BN not materializing yet... I guess I am getting a little impatient. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

I am using Nookie Froyo at the moment and it is working, however I really liked Stock 1.1.0. but with the NC using Android 2.1 I can't do some things I'd like to do. It just seems to me that BN is dragging their feet. Hence my concerns.
[Nook Color General] timmyjoe42:
As I understood your original post you are waiting for the official 2.2, not a developer build.

The last rumor that I heard (from these forums) was that it was to go out this month. (but that was a rumor)
[Nook Color General] notinterested:
Not really sure why people are flaming the OP so hard. Besides CM7 nook color development has practically stopped dead in its tracks. HC is stuck, froyo has been dead for a while.

So i can see how it seems that way unless you watch CM7 development it does look very dead. CM7 is usable enough that froyo is not really relevant and with googles decision to not open source HC means its pretty much dead in the water.
[Nook Color General] Gin1212:
Actually with Tablet Tweaks, CM7 is still seeing updates almost every day. And there's I believe an Experimental Kernel hiding in the CM7 User Thread which seems to have cleaned up the Battery Life on CM7.

As far as the official 2.2 update... Who needs it when you've got CM7? I mean, even if it does come out and we nooter it, it's still not going to do everything that CM7's custom rom can.

HoneyComb, yeah it sucks that it's not coming out right away. And I was pretty upset myself, but with tablets coming out (with similar prices to the nook) that have HC already... I can wait.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Why waste any more time (right now) on anything BUT CM7? I mean, yes, Froyo and Eclair are dead in the water, but that is good; it just means all the devs are working on the best system we have. When HC source drops, i expect most work on CM7 to dry up, and again move to the better OS.

So yes, dev is on one OS right now, but my oh my, what sweet dev it is. If you call that stagnation, you are crazy..
[Nook Color General] n8w:
I'm eager for the bn update just because I like to actually us my nook as an ereader rather than just a tablet. I'm a big fan of the mags and the kid books. Besides, I get my cm7 fix on my dinc.
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
if you know of such a kernel can you link to it?

Also if stock goes to 2.2 and gives us all ability to play flash and the extr speed improvements of a JIT compiler ad can then be nootered and overclocked, why would one need CM7? This way you also get the ui from B&N which includes built in back and menu buttons. It also includes the full B&N experience for reading magazines subscriptions books......You los that on custom Roms.

So while I laud the Devs work, getting nook color to froyo might make much of their work unnecessary, unless it gives them a better platform to make the NC even better.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Unless the stock update brings bluetooth, CM7 will always be better. Sure, i guess there are some people that want the ereader functionality, but there are those the enjoy better hardware functionality. ;)

Not to mention, i guess i am one of few, but i really hated B&N's framework modifications, and really enjoy a stock Android UI..
[Nook Color General] notinterested:
I really hope someone manages to port over the slick reader app from stock to CM7.

I like reading on my nook but not at the cost of such horrible performance in everything else.
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
Bluetooth works awful at best.

Regular headset doesn't work and range is a foot.

So far most people have keyboard trouble. Seems ext. bluettoh gps seems to be the best bet. So for me a stock rom with all the current missing goodies fixed with nooter and o/c?

I'd be happy.

Outside of bluetooth, if you had fully supported 2.2 on your device so hardware accel video and flash worked perfectly and yet you still had the B&N experience when you wanted it for free instore reading and subscriptions .....what else would you really want?
[Nook Color General] lafester:
partially working bt is MUCH better then non-working bt.

these guys work far to hard for you to come in and say its awful.

pretty sure i see you posting in the cm7 forum. perhaps you should stick with stock since its so great.
[Nook Color General] greenmky:
I've been waiting for the stock B&N update too. I'm still on rooted 1.0.0. I was waiting for Honeycomb...but that looks like it's quite a ways out (if ever).

CM7 looks nice, but I don't have the time for playing around and tweaking and stuff. Still waiting for it to get a little more finished up.

I'll wait for stock rooted 2.2. If that fails me, I'll put CM7 on it when it's more stable / non-beta.

I'd like having bluetooth working, but my primary use would be for my Plantronics 590a stereo headset...and BT isn't up to par for that kind of thing yet.

I too use my tablet more as an e-readers than anything else (although I prefer my e-ink Nook for that). And my 3yr old loves the kids books that read to her...
[Nook Color General] photoassign:
"just wondering because I have been watching and waiting and it appears development has slowed up for the time being."

clearly, you have NOT been watching, peruse some threads, friend.
[Nook Color General] eozoon:
Chiming in with everyone saying "WTF is this limbo you're talking about"

I've just got my NC on Monday and been flashing a new rom and/or update on it every night.

It seems every day there's something new being fixed, sometimes being broken and then fixed later, some new features showing up.

I wish my phone gets as many updates.
[Nook Color General] HarleyChick:
First, I think everyone needs to take a deep breath, and give the original poster some breathing room. He/she has already stated that they were not talking about CM7 or table tweaks or any of that, but rather the frustration with BN not putting the 2.2 update out as promised.

Second, I happen to love my NC running on Phiremod, but I'm also very interested in what the BN updates will bring - IF they ever get here.
[Nook Color General] cutterjohn:
It probably has something to do with B&N completely missing their two scheduled February updates and the one in March as they had originally posted to their own dev boards to appease the restless NC app developers for their store...

I'm just hoping that the delay was to move to an open/more stock OS with their ereader UI as just another app, kind of like Pandigital did to their various Novels.
[Nook Color General] lesdense:
All the "you're kidding about no new developments, right?" comments have already been made. I'll just add that I bought a Nook expressly to enjoy the process of tinkering and experimenting and trying to contribute (modestly due to limited ability) to the rooted Nook community. I have never learned so much about a new device so quickly as here at XDA and elsewhere. I wish I possessed the skills to participate more and I greatly admire the quality and the speed of innovation I've seen. I'm on my third custom ROM (CM 7 RC4) and can't wait to see the next evolution. Thanks to all you mad geniuses!
[Nook Color General] DizzyDen:
For those that like the stock B&N ui and reading app... why not load CM7 on SD... set up dual boot on that... boot stock when wanting the reader... CM7 to play and enjoy the BENEFITS that it brings.
[Nook Color General] BikeAR:
Well Stated

I could not express my feelings better than this.
[Nook Color General] poofyhairguy:
I use my Bluetooth Wiimote with my Nook Color almost every day.

1. Gingerbread's faster interface.

2. Mad-Murdock's tablet tweaks that make B&N's default softkey seem like a joke.

3. CM7 settings that allow for easy things like overclocking
[Nook Color General] dalingrin:
Damn, I guess I should never have worked on the Nook then. Stock B&N is sooo much better than CM7.

Its really amazing how all the CM developers just waste their time.
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
overclcoking can be done by setcpu,Murdoch's tweaks are great but still some glitches.

My experience with overclocked froyo was not that different from CM7.

wiimote.........really?
[Nook Color General] gordy_2001:
RE:

I'm honestly surprised at how quick the plethera of ROMs, apps, and mods came out! In just a few short months, there is a ton of stuff out there! If you happen to remember, there was a time not long ago, where it would take a few months just to root a phone. Now, these awsome dev's are just cranking this stuff out, for a device that was made as a book reader!

Keep up the incredible work guys, it is appreciated by lots of us!!!!
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
Dal I have verbally thanked and praised yours and others works often in these threads. So I am not sure why you would come back with that comment.

I guess my feeling is that if there was a stock working froyo on this device much of what was cooked up by you with backports to an old kernel would have been unnecessary and I have said as much. If you keep reading, I even said:

"So while I laud the Devs work, getting nook color to froyo might make much of their work unnecessary, unless it gives them a better platform to make the NC even better."

so I even suggest the update might give you a platform to make it even better. and that much of the work you did to mod kernel.... would be unnecessary if you had the right frameworks to begin with.

So please don't think I am minimizing the efforts of you or the devs.
[Nook Color General] poofyhairguy:
Which is a third party, paid for program. CM7's settings are built into Settings.

He just released a bugfix version today that personally fixed every major issue for me. Mad-Murdock's fixes are so awesome I actually prefer his builds over any Honeycomb (as you can't hide the status bar in Honeycomb). I don't care how awesome B&N's Froyo build will be, it won't approach the regular people usability of Mad-Murdock's tweaks for me.

I (and many other people) personally feel that the Gingerbread interface feels faster due to a superior garbage collector. But that is obviously not a universal feeling.

Oh man, Wiimote plus classic controller is the best. Closest thing to a portable Super Nintendo out there, the playing Emulators is the ultimate "your iPad can't do THIS" trick with my twenty-something friends. I have actually sold a few Nooks for B&N with that trick!

In fact, I will go a step further and say I prefer the Android B&N app to the real one. I don't really read books either way (if I did I would use my wife's eInk Nook), but everyone over the age of 40 who has used/bought an iPad always demands to see one thing to determine how "worthy" my Nook Color is- page turn animations while reading a book. Default Nook Color app lacks this, Market Nook app has it. Sad really.

Until Nook Color stock can catch up to superficial (but important) advantages of its own market app, there is nothing compelling about any OS offering of theirs.
[Nook Color General] pokey9000:
Having the solution handed to you is no fun, and since you can't really make a job out of this sort of work, fun is really the only reward. Besides, if we always waited for official source releases we probably wouldn't have had root until mid December.
[Nook Color General] dalingrin:
I was mostly just being a smart ass. :D

I'm of the opinion that it is very important to get rid of the reliance on vendors to release updates. In addition, I personally enjoy CM7/Gingerbread a lot more than the stock B&N OS. If their froyo update is anything like their eclair OS then I won't touch it. I find nootered stock to be a hacked mess because of B&N modifications. If reading magazines is your priority then stock is fine. (Though Google books and others will eventually have magazine subscriptions.) For anything else I find their Android modifications get in my way.

The real value in the CM7 port is that we can target the AOSP very easily now. When ice cream/honeycomb source is released we are pretty much ready to go. The kernel work-in-progress will allow us to keep a modern kernel in the future without needing to rely on B&N to release their source(which is half broken anyway).

If you like Stock then by all means stick to it. That won't hurt my feelings. However, imho stock eventually getting flash support does not diminish the work I or others have done thus far.
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
But more importantly when update is out wont you be able to take the underlying frameworks and use them instead of the current backport? Think newer drivers for video acceleration.....

I think that cm7 is fantastic but the lack of the b&n features and the sleep issues etc. Are its one shortcoming. When I made my comment regarding wasting time working on things the update could fix I meant more along the lines of you having updated material to work with which you can apply rather than the time you are spending now to make things work that light be already fixed and easily tarn from the update scheduled to drop in the next week or so.

From 1.1 Nook Color with 1.1 ghz overclock
[Nook Color General] dalingrin:
I do hope to use their codecs but that is contingent on them using stagefright which is not guaranteed.

We might be able to use bits of their kernel assuming they update it and they release the source...neither of which is guaranteed. We won't however use their entire kernel because we need to use a base kernel that can track upstream changes. This way we can more easily keep it up to date.

The sleep issue is fixed in our 2.6.32 kernel but there are some sound/McBSP issues still to sort out. Verygreen will be gone for the next week but hopefully he or I will be able to tackle the issue soon.
[Nook Color General] migrax:
Did you read my second post? I said I was referring to BN devs and not development here on XDA. If not for there efforts here I would have a brain damaged book reader.

Some people will look for any excuse to start a flame war... I clarified my position, sorry for not being succinct in my original post.

That said, I am going to give CM7 a try this weekend, if I can find the darned thing, I looked in Android Development and can't seem to find the CM7 nightlies anymore.

migrax
[Nook Color General] mrmark93:
You would be looking for the thread (under android development)

CM7 USER THREAD ....the 1st post contains a lot of useful information, including a link to the thread that contain information for downloading and installing. That thread is called the CM7 DEVELOPMENT THREAD; Read the first post there for VERY relevant installation information.

It is very difficult to find information if you're searching for it.
[Nook Color General] fpga_guy:
If you take a look at the tools that BN is providing for their app developer, it is Android SDK version 2.1 not version 2.2. That implies hardware acceleration is a ways off.
[Nook Color General] skgtheblij:
Okay, first off, i'm extremely thankful to all the devs here and elsewhere that make my android devices so much more fun...

Now, I can kind of see where the OP was coming from, but ONLY with regard to the Honeycomb development. I got my NC in order to run HC, and HC was what I initially put on it. It's not a phone, so why put anything else on? I tried CM7 for about an hour because of it's bluetooth capabilities, but I'd been running HC for a couple weeks and thus it just wasn't doing it for me. But from the perspective of someone running HC, we haven't seen near as much progress as those running older versions of android. Just kinda jealous. And as for the 'we'll never need HC' crew, that just seems to me like saying 'Oh, well i'll never need Windows 7 because I have this skin that makes my Windows XP look just like it, see!' Actually, the real reason is that actual tablet apps will begin being written which require Android 3.0, and we want to be able to run those. I'm just hoping that Google figure their lives out soon. I don't think they plan on never releasing it, they probably just want to fix all the (somewhat obvious) problems that HC currently has first. And i'm looking forward to that. But in the meantime, I am enjoying my tablet that wouldn't even be possible without the people here.
[Nook Color General] fattire:
Jeesh. How did I miss this thread until now?

(I have nothing to add beyond what dalin said.)

...except maybe to comment that the whole thing thusfar has been so much FUN... and an amazing learning experience... and I think the nook has introduced many people to a world and (dare I say) way of thinking about technology that they might not otherwise have discovered... and may have been oddly more common in another era.. maybe 20 or 30 years back when hobbyists tinkered more with their stuff...

So there's that.
[Nook Color General] skeeterpro:
Well put, fattire! I, for one, might never have jumped into fiddling with android had it not been for the NC. (Started with the Sony line of e-readers a few years back) So actual "reading" was my springboard into this challenging world. Not so unlike my forays into DOS years ago! :)

Learned much from all in here....both what to do..and what NOT to do!
[Nook Color General] sec6:
No soup for you! :)
[Nook Color General] ylixir:
I highly recommend making sure you get the tablet tweaks.

Tablet tweaks thread, "nightlies" with uh, tablet tweaks:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1002000

CM7 nightlies, anything from nightly 37 or later should have the tablet tweaks, as of my posting right now, nightly 37 isn't out yet:

http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=nightly&device=encore