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[Thunderbolt General] Bimmer323:
I agree 100%.

There are a lot of new people moving into android with this phone, and a lot of progress has been made through development inthe few weeks it has been out.

People really need to slow down, and read before jumping. I think that was proven this morning...good one Jcase :)

I've had a rooted phone for over a year now, been through roms like mad, but still get nervous and re-read every post before I put something on my phone and understand exactly what it's doing.

Take your time people, read, re-read, ask questions, then flash, your phones not going anywhere unless you do something dumb and end up with a brick....which would more than likely be your fault if it happens.
[Thunderbolt General] ProTekk:
Forgot about the questions. They.are more than welcome if it is about rooting. Ask away. We share knowledge. We don't hoard it and say go home. Glad to see some voices in here besides mine.
[Thunderbolt General] jmiller98:
Completely agree with protekk. Devs can not help you if they don't know the exact process of rooting went wrong if you use a "1 click" method. Using the process put out by jcase a person can start over or even go back to the prior step. The process jcase put out was a step by step (copy & paste commands) process. I am no better than any of you, but I can read and follow simple instructions, and in doing so have gotten a good understanding of adb. As for getting help, I have never had a problem with getting help, even when I started.

When rooting or flashing, you need to read, read, read, read, until you are comfortable with the instructions. Xda has info to getting everything setup and running. Research before you flash or root.
[Thunderbolt General] rycheme:
+1 man. I've only had my Thunderbolt for a few days and ended up deciding to root manually because I wanted to know what was going on, step by step. It's taking a little time to get used to CWM coming from the Eris where I've used Amon Ra's recovery.

<soapbox>

I've noticed a trend of folks really beating up on the dev's. Guys, our dev's do this for free or donations. Some even insist that we donate to the homeless or our favorite charity. You're not paying for support, these guys do what they do out of love and commitment to the community. Please remember this before you log onto IRC or make a new thread. The dev's have gone through a lot of trouble to learn these systems and write scripts for you, usually through reverse engineering and a lot of time. Respect their time by searching first.

Additionally, if you need help - please and thank you goes a long way. So do logcats and output from the screens that you're currently working with ;)

Now, back to your regularly scheduled discussion.

</soapbox>
[Thunderbolt General] Bern612:
All I'm saying is I remember a lot of people complaining about jcase, not wanting a 1 click root released . He wanted people to know what was being done and how to do it. And people complained saying he had no right. I believe this is why he didn't want it released to soon. Damn I hate mind readers. Lol
[Thunderbolt General] jaskru:
"ProTekk is 1000% right on this."

"+1"

If someone doesn't want to put in the time to understand what is going on and the processes taken to make it happen they shouldn't even bother rooting.
[Thunderbolt General] GuestK0040:
This is my first android phone ever. I have successfully rooted it on both a mac and pc. I followed the instructions and learned how to use adb (nothing fancy of course). If I can learn others can too.
[Thunderbolt General] TNS201:
Thats a good point OP.

The method posted by JCASE is so simple that anyone should be able to do it.

1) Install drivers for your phone

2)copy files to your ADB directory and to your phone SD card

3)Open a command prompt

4)Copy and paste a bunch of ADB commands

5)Put the other PG05IMG.BIN on your phone

6)Copy and paste some more adb commands

7)Download a few market apps

8)Success

I mean where is that difficult? Its basically spoon fed. If you don't have the ability to copy files to your phones SD card, copy and paste commands into a DOS prompt, follow clear instructions, and install driver software for your phone, then you probably shouldn't bother doing anything. I don't even consider myself an ADB pro, I learned how to use some of it with my MOTO Droid and I still don't know what a bunch of the commands are. I know how to push files to my phone, how to pull files from my phone, and some other misc commands.
[Thunderbolt General] egeorgia:
I agree. I was frustrated sure. Took me another 7 tries and a few different methods. But in the end I was the one responsible. I could have chose to give up , but because I didn't want to be left behind I kept learning and trying. I finally got it last night. It even feels better knowing how much trial and error I had to try. Makes me appreciate it more.
[Thunderbolt General] tedkord:
I'm considering moving to Android, possibly the Thunderbolt. I'm experienced with flashing custom ROMs to WinMo 6.X phones, but that's not a root process (at least not on any phones I've owned), it's a simple process of connecting the device tp a PC via USB, launching a program on the PC, clicking a few buttons and restarting the phone. Done.

Coming from that simplcity, the rooting process looks kinda daunting, but not impossible. I've been reading as much as I can in different forums, but without having the phone in front of me and trying it out, I'm not understanding the process.

For instance, "Open a command prompt." Is this on a connected PC, or directly on the phone? If on the phone, how do I get to a command prompt on it?

I guess I'd like to ask the knowledgeable folks here for a website they'd recommend for an absolute beginner to bone up before attempting his first root? Or multiple sites, where I can not only read how it's done, but what is actually happening at each step. I know my way around Windows pretty well (up to XP anyway), but have no idea when it comes to Linux.

As to folks who dork up their phones while trying to root/modify - the devs are offering their knowledge, free of charge. You aren't being forced to root, it's your choice and ultimately your responsibility. I've seen the occasional Sp.Ed. flip out because his phone bricked while flashing a WinMo custom ROM that someone spent many hours working on and tweaking. Not often, I'm glad to say - most folks are grateful for the effort.
[Thunderbolt General] infernodash:
This was my first android phone, and initially I was too scared to do the manual method. But, I manned up and decided to do it, and to be honest, it was simple. After that, I tried reading all the threads and being active in the community. That's the thing with attaining knowledge, you have to be proactive. Read through everything, and often. Don't just ask questions only when it pertains to your problem, because from what I've seen, it's always answered in some thread.

tl,dr:The gist, just be proactive. read read read
[Thunderbolt General] pdqauto01:
look on you tube they have a real nice walk thru you should watch first

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc6EMdPpF6o&annotation_id=annotation_68322&feature=iv

thanx nat3mil
[Thunderbolt General] rizzomegav:
Ayup. either a long contract or an expensive phone I do not want anything bad to happen to it

with my og droid I would do just about anything to it because that thing was bulletproof and I got buy 1 get 1 free .

my thunder bolt, it's treated with kid gloves

this is not a signature I type it in every time maybe sent from my phone or my computer
[Thunderbolt General] micoyote1:
I have to agree for the most part...I rooted my bolt with the very first method released and it took me quit a while...had to do allot of reading (adb). I got most of my questions answered by going threw the threads.... reading other peoples problems they posted and then the fixes or answers left by knowledgeable forum members. Yes that takes time but it does help...I will vouch for that...lots of knowledge and answers here just have to put in the time.

I think people should be able to ask questions on here...thats part of why the forums are here, but if you ask and you don't get answer it's more than likely you have ask a question that has been asked before...several before's....Its just to basic of a question which could have several answers (not enough info in the question)....or you ask to many questions which means you have not done your home work.

Read and then read some more....google and google some more.....then ask the question....:)
[Thunderbolt General] ncwildcat:
+1000

People want to be spoon fed - doing things the right way is too hard for them
[Thunderbolt General] grkdotnot:
Protekk is Right. I'm not a developer (yet i want to learn) all it takes is a little time to read and find the things you need to get the job done.
[Thunderbolt General] corenojoe:
I definitely agree that people need to take the time to understand what they are doing and, thus, give themselves the ability to help themselves in the future.

I have manually rooted several devices and the knowledge I gained from that helped me when I ran into a few issues when I got lazy and decided to use dbz's easyroot for my thunderbolt because i understood what the process was doing to my phone.

I think wat the OP is saying is not that he hates helping but that he cannot help you if you don't know, specifically, what you did to mess your phone up. If you understand what you are doing then you can at least ask an informed question with enough detail to give devs a fair shot at being able to help you.

Basically the moral is: take he time to learn the ins and outs of what youvarevdoing when you are rooting. People are willing to help with the hard stuff that the every-day-rooter may not know, but you also have to be able to help yourself with the simple stuff and give the devs the info they need to get you moving in the right direction.

Anyways, theres my 2 cents lol
[Thunderbolt General] Stevez48:
<My $0.02>

I am a super n00b, and please take this with a grain of salt... I used the easy root method. Looking back would I do it again? Nope, I ran in to a couple of sticking points, and actually ended up using the manual method as a reference for where I was stuck. So in the end, it was really like the manual method, lol... I did however learn a little bit of ADB, and realized that for the most part it is very similar to the dos... rm = remove push = copy cd = change dir.... It may seem intimidating at first, but like it has been stated here before, take the 20 minutes to actually read through the directions, watch a youtube clip if you want (there are plenty out there), theen just go slow and follow directions.

I personally have been on the andIRC chat, and they are nothing but super helpful and willing to point a total stranger in the right direction to findding the solution. *Cheers team* Appreciate all of your help!

</My $0.02>
[Thunderbolt General] tedkord:
That's perfect. I can do that. His video of Step 1 (setting up ADB on your PC) is also going to be very useful.

Thanks!
[General Topics] cheesefrog:
Some time ago I selected the default internet browser to launch anytime I clicked a link in GMail. Now that I've installed other browsers, I'd like to choose a different one to launch instead. How can I change it?
[General Topics] dvdy:
Settings > Applications > Browser > Clear defaults
[General Topics] crank07:
Accessibility?

What is accessibility? what application activates it?
[General Topics] win7x64:
Accessibility is for disabled people (e.g. blind, deaf). Applications that are designed to assist with navigating the device should appear in there.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markj_2222:
I just i have a few SGS's and i just installed 2.3.3 on one of them and the problem is it disconnects from the wireless network when the signal gets low.

Side by side the signal levels between the the 2.2.1 and the 2.3.3 units have the same db level, but the 2.3.3 will declare the signal strength is too low and disconnect alot before the 2.2.1

Correct me if im wrong but this version of gingerbread uses the nexus s kernel right? And i've seen lots of complaints about weak 3G on those phones, and google has given up on making a fix.

Any help/insight appreciated
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragon Faker:
I know, i wave the same problem, it would be nice to know why!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rafalp73:
Hi,

what settings do you have in settings->display->energy savings (o sth like this - I am using polish version). There is an option to save energy based on LCD, but... it saves energy probably in more than LCD areas...

When I have bought the phone - I was very confused/upset when my SGS can not use 3G nor HSPA... instead of H displays G (or sometimes E) on connection icon. I suuposed it is broken, when compared with my collegues phone (he had H icon)...

Than I found the solution - switched off energy savings, and than my phone started works well with High speed connection - chech this out...

regrads.

ps. I am using android 2.2
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragon Faker:
ok, for america its call power saving mode, i'm gonna try it to see

Edit: I try and doesn't work for me...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markj_2222:
FIXED

I found a really good fix that has been working awesome. I went and installed a new modem kernel using clock work mod.

I get great signal (haven't lost signal yet), gps, im always connected to data.

Just go on here, download the appropriate kernel and install.

My favorites are I9000UGJL2 and I9000XXJVK. Play around, see what works best in your area.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=876391
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MarkusPO:
from http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/feature.html it looks like it won't be...

this looks like a bit of a deal-breaker given samsungs poor update schedule.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aejt:
I really hope they're not talking about an encrypted bootloader, although I seriously doubt they would state that as a feature.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sajadkhan806:
sold my n8 1 month back and waiting for s2 with nokia 6300 and 3120 classic in my hand. so its better to wait buddy
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crypticc:
This is about the functionality targeted at improving security for integrated business applications.

However, The issue as I see it is that if they do not also lock bootloader and ability to install custom root-level stuff out using hardware encryption, then any hardware encryption of user-space stuff is pointless. I predict they either lock it, or if they're clever, to diffuse hackers and modders interest in cracking the encryption they might allow you to unlock it at cost of removing the ability to integrate with business apps. (or other way around or poss with a sandbox of some kind)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MarkusPO:
of those two options, which one offers the fastest turnaround to market, so therefore cheaper to produce and faster to make money from? i wouldn't doubt samsung to completely lock this.

which imo goes against androids openness. you may as well have a custom crappy samsung operating system on it that's semi-compatible with android.

i thought google wanted to clamp down on skins completely? or is that just for tablets?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aejt:
It's true that it's probably cheaper, but at the same time not as many will buy it, so in the end it might be a loss to them.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Of course it will be flashable...theres nothing we cant set free on xda...:) ..really...dont worry about it.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueScreenJunky:
I'm assuming you don't own a Milestone or a Droid X :p
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harr1994:
Guys could it be possible that s2 might have nand lock plus encrypted bootloader? Any ideas?

If it is the case then it will spell lotz of trouble for us as then even rooting will be a trouble....

And if by encrypted hardware.....does that mean that it will be difficult to find suitable drivers which will make cheating the bootloader difficult and also voids the kexec method employed in bypassing the x10 bootloader?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joelszs:
Or an atrix.......

sent from my nook color
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qsdf55:
I gave a look at xda threads of those two phones. Everything you can dream of is availlable (last RC4 of cyanogenmod 7, among a lot of other roms).

For what I understood, the only real issue is modified kernels?

If this is the kind of limitation we are talking about, that's fine with me.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rytkonen:
Without kernel voodoo sound, bln, etc are not possible.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MoonRaven:
No custom kernels is a HUGE problem. Kernels are written for specific android versions. You can't run Android 2.3 (or even 2.2) on a 2.1 kernel (we had this problem with the motorola milestone). This means you have to wait till the manufacturer starts developing or else you are STUCK. So really, it is a huge limitation. Also, if the manufacturer doesn't support things like a swap partition, you will never be able to get it.
[myTouch 4G General] CB620:
Close thread
[myTouch 4G General] mark manning:
Make sure tour using clockwork 3.0.0.6
[myTouch 4G General] camalus:
Do some reading. You are using the wrong recovery version for the roms you are flashing.....
[myTouch 4G General] lowandbehold:
Umm, well, he said icedglacier works (2.2) and cm7 (2.3) so I don't see how he can be using the wrong recovery.
[myTouch 4G General] darinmc:
the problem exists between the phone and the couch.

op, review your process and try again.
[myTouch 4G General] CB620:
I have 3.0.0.6 loaded already. What should I try next?
[myTouch 4G General] lowandbehold:
I really don't understand what my quote had to do with your post...but ok. Like I said, the poster (not myself) is on 3.0.0.6, and if the other people would have read his original post they would have realized that since he said both froyo and gingerbread ROM's are working.

Now, are you doing a full wipe before trying a different ROM, and if so, are you going into mounts and storage and formatting boot and system? It's not always a requirement of flashing a ROM, but might solve your problem.
[myTouch 4G General] CB620:
ok i tried that after i flashed cm7 now when i try to restore back into my iceglacier or my thunderbolt rom my phone just hangs what do i need to do to restore my backups properly right now my phone only boots into cm7 do i have to downgrade my clockwork recovery in rom manager or something?
[myTouch 4G General] darinmc:
he could have used 2.5.1.x to flash his first two ROMs, upgraded to 3.0.0.5 and flashed CM7, then tried flashing other froyo ROMs to no success. But that's beside the point. I don't know why I quoted you other than to point out that you made a lot of assumptions about what he did or didn't do and yet questioned the assumptions of others. The biggest problem is that very little information was given, forcing people to fish for info like we are playing fix his phone pictionary. Usually when someone doesn't give a lot of information about a problem it's because they didn't take the time to learn about what they were doing like they should have...

to op, if you want people to take the time to help you, take the time to explain what you did and what went wrong.
[myTouch 4G General] CB620:
phone was shipped to me with cm7 rc3 on it. i flashed thunderbolt rom made a backup and than flashed ice glacier and made a back up. i tested out another gingerbread rom and didnt like so i wanted to go back to my thunderbolt rom. i went into cwm and picked restore backup. the whole process went but now my phone just hangs at the mytouch screen. the only thing im able to do now is boot back into cm7. it seems like i can only boot into gingerbread now.
[myTouch 4G General] darinmc:
are you wiping data at all? wiping cache partition and dalvik cache? I've never seen ROM Manager show 3.0.0.6, and since I don't have RM Premium out of curiosity is that the lastest version? How did you get the 3.0.0.6 recovery on your phone? Have you done all backup/restore from Rom Manager, or did you manually go into recovery? Did you follow the directions in the op of the ROM you were having trouble installing or did you just flash? by "boot back into CM7" do you mean restore your CM7 backup? what do you mean by "another gingerbread ROM?"

Answer these questions and someone MIGHT be able to begin to understand your problem enough so that they can help you.
[myTouch 4G General] geoffreywolter:
My understanding is CW 3.0.0.6 is just a modified version of 3.0.0.5 to allow us to flash both Ext 2 and Ext 4. It's readily available in this forum.
[myTouch 4G General] TrueBlue_Drew:
I am not sure what you have going on but I too havent ever seen Rom Manager show 3.0.0.6 but I too dont have the premium version. I saw you posted in my thread but you left alot of stuff out of your post. Like that you were having trouble flashing roms. My suggestion would be to download the latest rom manager and then download and flash the zip from my thread. Then replace your recovery with that one and try flashing some roms. Also if you have tried flashing Royal Glacier and cant, you can also check and make sure that the MD5 sums match with whats in the OP of the thread and your downloaded rom. I will be happy to try and help in any way I can. If you still cant get it then we need to get you set up with adb and have you send a logcat so I can try and see whats going on during boot.
[myTouch 4G General] mark manning:
You are most likely not running 3.0.0.6.

3.0.0.6 should have orange text where as 3.0.0.5 has green text.

cw 3.0.0.6 is technically not released yet and would not show up in the rom manager as in your pic. Something just seems weird with that. I do have the premium version as well, and have never seen that. I attached a thumbnail below for you to reference.

If for some reason you do have 3.0.0.6 installed re-download it and re-flash the image. That should take care of your problem.
[myTouch 4G General] CB620:
I figured it out.
[myTouch 4G General] mark manning:
Mind sharing the answer?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] venomrat:
Hi, for all Starburst users in this forums. I would like to know your preferences.

I'm currently using leedroid 2.2f.

snq Kernel-2.6.32.15-leedroid_2.3-chgrmod4 snq@drone #1 charges very slowly, that why I reverted to the older kernel.

I would like your opinions on snq’s StarBurst Kernel-2.6.32.33 snq@drone #1

and also the latest SNQ kernel-bravo-2.6.32.36-starburst-110327.zip.

Thanks.

I am unable to start a poll on this forum. :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gr4bov5ky:
I suggest You try any of snq's latest kernels.;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andQlimax:
can u read the creation date of the thread? lol
[G Tablet General] shibaji:
I am running modded vegan 5.1+5.1.1+kernel replacement. I bought xda premium app, but unfortunately whenever I try to view a thread or search, it errors and force closes.

Any hell would be great. This must be an issue with specific version / combination of ROM I am using ?

Thanks!
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
I've tried the free XDA app, several times the last couple of months and it always FCed. I'm assuming that the paid one us based in the same code. If you search Xda, there are a number of threads, but no fixes.

It always seemed ironic to me :(...

Jim
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
P.s. I think some people use Tapatalk, but that's also a paid app.
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
I was googling, and found an older version (0.9?) that doesn't blow up, but it doesn't seem to have a way to set favorite forums:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=677510

Jim
[G Tablet General] Sm0k3d 0uT:
Both the free and the premium versions fc for me, but I don't have any problems with tapatalk.

Swyped from my St0n3d VEGAn 1.0 Beta 5.1.1 G-Tab
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
the xda app has always been a pos with the gtab