yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eschelon:
Depends. BFS eliminates the need for a heuristics adjustment while optimizing tuning restraints, which ultimately allows the kernel to focus on one task more efficiently. This is why a BFS kernel is good at benchmarking since it can focus on boosting the benchmark score since that is all it is focusing on, but it lags when multitasking (try updating 20 apps at once in the market on a BFS kernel and you'll see what I mean)

CFS on the other hand is very good at smoothing out simultaneous tasks fairly, which is why it is called the "completely fair scheduler", after all ;)

So it really comes down to what you need/want from your phone. Keep in mind that as multi-core processors start becoming more popular, you'll see less BFS kernels as these are not optimized for multi-core devices

Also, as an aside, khanam is right. After smoothing out the voltages, Ziggy's next project is HAVS which will greatly improve battery life and offer an additional performance boost. He mentioned to us testers earlier today on MSN that he has already added/changed/modified 37,000 lines of code in the kernel - so he's working hard for you all. Send him a few bucks if you get a chance ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
Normal use for you sounds like a lot of use for me lol, and the fact that you had it at 1.4 probably didn't help. I'm sticking with 1.2 and my battery life is amazing
[Thunderbolt Android Development] htowngator:
Anyone using these with the BAMF rom?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eallan:
I'm about to try. The one in using keeps crashing.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] htowngator:
Btw, are you flashing the kernels with fastboot or CWM?

With fastboot its just "fastboot flash boot boot.img" correct? Do you need to do anything else?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
Do not do fastboot. CWM only
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eschelon:
Correct. Ziggy's kernels require that you flash the entire .zip in CWM.

Flashing only the boot.img via fastboot will sorta work, but you will find that many things will break
[Thunderbolt Android Development] htowngator:
Got it. Thanks for the info.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
Are you guys getting better battery life on CFS or bfs? I think I was on BFS but then when I switched to CFS it seems kinda shorter
[Thunderbolt Android Development] robdec17:
I assume you can run this Kernel with the stock rooted rom correct?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mbh87:
Is anyone noticing more frequent data drops on the new kernel? My data was dropping was dropping like crazy so I went back to the old kernel and its back to normal again.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fillyo:
There is still the whole proximity sensor issue on the BFS kernal. Still getting the black screen and have to wait a few seconds or hit power.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] igl007:
Ok I am confused. This isn't just fast and smooth, like everyone always says about any ROM or kernal. This ACTUALLY is. My confusion is how?! Let me explain...

I have been comparing the "scrolling" of a lot of android phones to the iPhone. My findings are: If you scroll by flicking your finger slowly and let the screen kinetically scroll (in any program btw) then it will usually be on par with the smoothness of an iPhone. however If you HOLD your finger and slowly scroll you will see a noticeable performance hit. This is the first time ever that holding your finger and scrolling is just as smooth as kinetically doing it. That is freaking amazing! It's not just overclocking either. I clocked it to 1000mhz and it's still smooth. Can someone explain how this was possible? I know about Opera 11 and it being the only browser that has hardware acceleration. This change has effected the whole phone, not just the browser. When a user picks up a iPhone vs an android this has always been the concern, "the iPhone just seems like a smoother experience" they will say. Whatever you did, I feel needs to be done by manufacturers out of the gate. Awesome job.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Veridor:
Is anyone else having issues with GPS not getting a fix with this kernel unless you turn on Wi-Fi? I remember it being mentioned in another thread, but not much since then.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] khanam:
Its not fully resolved yet as ziggy said in his site. It takes a couple of seconds sometimes for the sensor to work. He is still tweaking it to make the issue completely disappear. Sometimes I hit the back button and it works. Other times its instantaneous. Either way, the issue will be gone as soon as the offending code is found.

Sent from my thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] asenduk:
i actually got better linpack scores on the previous kernel at the same speeds, so i reverted back.. im sure he will tweak and polish the next release
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
Scores don't mean crap
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Where is the kernel source????
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dirtyfingers:
The first time it took about a minute to get a lock, but now it is almost immediate with no WiFi. This is the first I have ever tested any of ziggys kernels and I have to say I'm very impressed. Super snappy but have not had enough time to gauge the battery life quite yet. Keep up the good work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nmyeti:
Tried the CFS kernel, and while i'm a firm believer that scores don't mean much, i do believe that they should be in the ballpark when comparing against other modifications on your phone, i'm getting 30s in linpack and 1400-1500s in Quadrant even at 1.4. This doesn't seem right at all, when i go back BAMF 4.0b everything goes back to normal.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] andrew53517:
So far cfs is awesome in battery life and everything. Think I should try bfs too?

Thunderbolt Rooted!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MYxdaUSERNAME:
still on apr 4's kernel...i streamed pandora over 3g for 5 hours last night and when i picked up the phone...almost cold. i really like ziggy's work..
[Thunderbolt Android Development] andrew8806:
Locking thread OP PM me for more details.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aicfan71189:
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone had any answers that could help me or point me to certain posts that I may have not seen. I have tried many Rome, including Jiminy and Z-mod, and can not get a full concrete ever for my questions. I have an Evo on Cricket, and I have problems that I have never been able to correct. I have full web, 3G...my calls always come through, but unless I am roaming, my phone can't dial out. It just says call ended after about a minute, unless I get into a roaming area, then dials right through, no problem. Also, I can't receive picture messages from others. I can send them, send them to myself, and receive multi-media messages, like the ones that are forwarded over and over again. So my question is, does anyone have any answers to these problems, or has no one ever fully had one working? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[General Questions and Answers] jksigmon:
Looking for a way to get the internet pass-through option on the droid incredible. I know its available on the desire HD and thunderbolt but is there any way to use that option on the DINC. Thanks for your help.
[HTC Inspire 4G] gmanunited:
Need Help connecting to Hidden WIFI Network. I have done it before using full WIFI from different phone (Captivate) but I am having issues now. The iPhone has no issues accessing the network. just android....????WPA2 Enterprise and PEAP....
[HTC Inspire 4G] Andrewsc1:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=987246
[HTC Inspire 4G] nhshah7:
yep, configuring it by hand worked for me. i connect to this network everyday
[HTC Inspire 4G] gmanunited:
Resolved the issue. Thanks for the help.
[Droid 2 General] rtfield:
If I want to go back do I need to sbf or can I just restore a backup?

Thanks
[Droid 2 General] Abowersq:
Go away. If you have to ask you shouldnt do it
[Droid 2 General] Heafust:
Too much changed to restore backup, I would definitely go with sbf. BTW, I prefer the Linux ubuntu cd method.
[Droid 2 General] rtfield:
F off. I would just try it but will not be to my computer to sbf for couple hours. I didn't think so just thought I'd ask.

Thanks
[Droid 2 General] rtfield:
Thanks d2user
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theintelligent:
I have AT&T Atrix, I wanted to know from where should I buy the unlock code. I have tried unlockthatcell.com, but its code didn't worked for me.

Can somebody recommend me some site?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zen kun:
there is already a thread about this on general section, i use cellunlock.net works for me and several others
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zjt:
atrix 4g in china is as same as us?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
cellunlock or cellunlocker?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theintelligent:
Well I have tried the following three sites

- Unlockthatphone.com

- Cellunlock.com

Both of them send me the same code and it didn't worked :(

Any clues
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
have you tried cellunlocker.net? is not the same as cellunlock.net
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nuoten18:
I buy it from ebay ... 14.99$ they told me It would take 2 business days but they sent me the seller nick name unlock fusion

I can't add any link cause i'm new (but search "unlock code atrix" and sort them by the price and he was the cheapest )

:D unlock it and send me your blessing
[Xoom General] Jaywan:
This is the xoom runing android 3.0 and no one ported a customer recovery

Img?
[Xoom General] sgtagem:
Still waiting on SD card I guess. I cant wait !!!!
[Xoom General] bwcorvus:
No sdcard, no recovery...

Sent From My Evo
[Xoom General] Jaywan:
Oh OK I see
[Xoom General] PaulG1488:
some people such as myself and a few others have cwm recovery but we cant use any of the functions until the sdcard gets enabled which is why we havent released it yet
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
What am I missing here, why can't the 32GB internal be used for CWM? Is this erased along with everything else?:
[Xoom General] Jaywan:
I'm a developer do u mind if I have a look at this recovery img?
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
Koush has it in his repository I believe.
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
+1 I'm running it. Some things work in it just not the most important..back up
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
Speaking of this.. How come you never did the HC port for the streak like you said you were going to?
[Xoom General] bwcorvus:
Yes, it is erased.

Sent From My Evo
[Thunderbolt General] squeeze:
I will assume that most of us on this board are early adopters, geek-heads, nerds or other types that just need their gadget fix.

We were all disappointed that the Thunderbolt went from one release date to another and another and another. When the product finally launched we all went through various motions of discounts, opening up new phone lines, equipment swapping with spouse, etc. I switched from ATT iPhone 4 to VZW the day after the TBolt Launch.

With all the little nuances (battery life, 4G/3G disconnects, etc) - I am extremely happy with what I have in my hands. We begged and begged for a product release and now we have it in hand. Half-baked? Not really (I have the Xoom, and I don't think that is half-baked). This piece of machinery rocks hardcore. Had the Atrix had the Inspire. But what made me do it was the 4G LTE radio. They all have minor problems (from my use cases). I really enjoy this handheld. I was begging for a product launch as soon as possible. Now that I have it - I will not complain. The paint is almost dry folks. Hang in there. I consider myself one of the fortunate users that were able to pickup a Thunderbolt.

Issues aside as an early adopter, are you happy with your Thunderbolt?

On a side note, I'm on my 3rd 17" Macbook Pro early 2011 Quad-Core due to over-heating issues. Yeah, it's from Apple - nothing is perfect.
[Thunderbolt General] Jacquestrapp:
The only thing I'm not happy with is the battery life while on LTE. I've got the toggle switch in there now but it's a pain to change it if I'm already in the middle of something, so I end up just leaving it on 3G all the time unless I'm doing something specific that benefits from the (awesome) speed bump. I'm hopeful that in the near future some of the battery-managing apps (JuiceDefender, etc.) will be updated to include LTE on/off options, so that for example I can have 4G turn off automatically when my phone's screen is off, or when my battery gets below 25%.
[Thunderbolt General] crazed_z06:
I am actually happy with the phone for the most part. The phone is VERY fast. I had a DroidX before and I thought that was a fast Android phone. The Thunderbolt is noticeably more snappier than the X though. The only time it lags is installing stuff from the market. Otherwise, it's blazing fast which I love.

Im in San Diego and the 4G coverage is AWESOME here. No drops or anything. The low latency on the 4G network makes the phone seem even faster when using apps like facebook. On the 3G network, it used to take a couple seconds for the network to respond, but now, data connections establish almost instantly.

The only thing that kills it is the battery. It makes the phone virtually unusable. It's like a Corvette with a 3 gallon gas tank. Sure it's fast, sexy and sleek, but you can only go about 50-60 miles before you're strandred on the side of the road and people are laughing at how your new performance machine has become a giant paperweight.

If no patch or fix comes out that at least marginnally improves the battery life, I might have to shell out full price for a Droid Bionic when it comes out. Moto seems to know how to make batteries. My Droid X battery EASILY last 18+ hours with good usage. My buddy's Atrix goes over 2 days on a charge. Then again, maybe crappy battery will be the price of admission when it comes to LTE. It's possible the Bionic will have atroicious battery life as well.
[Thunderbolt General] Dnakaman:
When everyone is saying poor battery life, "what do you consider poor?"

I've had a G1 since it first came out over 2 years ago, then got a G2 when it came out and the battery life was no where near my old "cell phone" as far as lasting that long.

Now compared to my laptop, I would say it was better than the laptop was.

I remember hearing these same complaints when Android phones first came out (Iphones for that matter as well).

So I guess I'm wondering what people consider poor? If I can get a good 8-10 hours with moderate use, I'm happy (and it's about what I would expect).

So what are your expectations?
[Thunderbolt General] TheZuneLune:
I am pretty happy with my Thunderbolt.

I live in a 4G area, but I can tell at work, I am getting close to the edge of 4G range and my battery life is worse at work as a result. Overall, the battery is fairly comparable to my OG Droid battery life. In both cases I have kept my phone on the charger while at work. I will probably buy a spare battery for my Tbolt. I did that with my droid and never regretted it. I am not interested in the extra size from the extended battery.

I am happier with Sense than I thought I would be. It is sleek, responsive, and I find it makes a more pleasant experience.
[Thunderbolt General] chino0131:
I love the phone, but I'm still on the fence about whether or not to keep it. I'm past my 14 days, but I've always had good luck with selling my phones on Craigslist for almost twice what I pay. I put a listing on Craigslist to see what I could get and have offers already ranging from $200-$550.

Anyways, battery life and signal are my main issues. I'm also upset that when shooting video I can't hear a damn thing when playing it back.

On battery, I wake up for work and after charging my phone all night my battery is at 85% within 20 minutes. I thought my Samsung epic had bad battery life, but this is horrible. Im in a 4g area at home, and even with WiFi only on and most apps closed, battery is still bad. I can't even make it until noon without the battery being completely drained.

My other issue is signal. 4g is awesome when it works. However, I can sit in one spot and have full 3G but the phone constantly drops to 1X or no signal. My coworker has been beside me with her droidx and her phone maintains the full 3G signal. Same with another coworkers OG Droid .It's annoying to have a great phone with service that is constantly going in and out, or that can never be used to its full potential or used the way I want to use it, for fear of a dropped signal or dead battery.

I have a backup battery on the way so for now I'm gona deal with it. However, if the video recording isn't fixed with an update and I my signal issues persist I may have to sell my TB.
[Thunderbolt General] crazed_z06:
Poor = phone dropping a percent every few minutes of use. This morning it went from 100 to 80 within a hour and I hadnt used the phone for anything at all.. just turned on the screen a few times to check the battery level.

I might be spoiled by the Droid X because I never worried about the battery on that phone. With the Thunderbolt, Im always trying to keep it on a charger when Im not using it because it discharges so quickly.. I dont want to get stuck somewhere without a phone.
[Thunderbolt General] nerozehl:
I love this phone, I love the development that's going on with it, and I can only see it getting better. Sure, there are some minor things, like GPS/Battery/Screen.. but I think it can all be worked through.
[Thunderbolt General] Dnakaman:
I'm wondering what you have running in the backgroud that could be sucking up your battery. I've had mine off charge since 6am this morning. It's now almost 1:30 and I'm still at 79% charge. I've been using it to make some calls and play a game or two, check my emails when I get a notification and some web searches.

All of my android phones have been about the same.
[Thunderbolt General] cliffco823:
I love it.
[Thunderbolt General] BurnOne77:
I sleep with mine
[Thunderbolt General] JBO1018:
I "sleep" with mine. ;)
[Thunderbolt General] 1454:
I don't really agree with this. I'm coming from the D2 and I could hardly ever make it the whole day without charging. Really no different from the The imo. Plus I don't think motos build quality was that good either. I was never really happy with that phone.
[Thunderbolt General] pwiseman:
Just got my TB yesterday. Speed Test is surprising though. I am getting 6-8 Mbps down but my upload is crazy fast 30-40 Mbps. Is this odd from what others are seeing? Been trying it in different locations and the pattern seems consistent so far.
[Thunderbolt General] athorax:
I haven't really had any issues. I love this phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Runamok81:
I have flashed phones before, (my TP2 runs android)

Sorry for the extra post, but I know someone has tried this.

I've read the stickies, there is ALOT of outdated info, dead links, etc..

***Whats the easiest upgrade route to get a stock WM6.0 Kaiser on Android?***

WM6.0>OEM HTC WM6.1 ROM>Android

OR

WM6.0>Custom WM6.5 ROM>Android

Which is the easiest/quickest way to get Android?

NAND or run Haret off the SD card?

I don't need a walkthrough just anyone's quick advice. Espicially, any trip-ups I might encounter regarding the radios and SPL versions.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Runamok81:
Sucessfully bricked the phone trying using Atools!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
congratulations for not thoroughly reading the sticky topic about HOW TO COMPLETELY REPLACE WINDOWS MOBILE WITH ANDROID.

It Requires Radio version 1.65 or higher (which is only compatible with WM6.1 or 6.5)

It Requires HARD SPL Version 3.29 or higher (which is compatible with WM6.1 or 6.5) for the case you wanna flash on NAND

So either way, you gotta upgrade to WM6.1, HardSPL, Radio, then Go to ANDROID. Impatience often hurts. Android is blazing fast when installed on NAND (sys + Data)

So tell me,

Your phone is bricked in what sense? flashing using Atools is risky. I suggest go with RUU utility or SD Card. And I suggest you must consider a lil bit of reading first
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
Atools isn't a flash tool...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Runamok81:
Thanks for the help, and I can sense your frustration. I make my living doing IT work. And, I'm not technically a newbie to the flash game. I've owned the PPC6700, Mogul, Touch Pro, and TP2. I've flashed them all. I've even contributed a sticky or two.

I admit I was rushed. And like a small child with a gun, I took a shot without fully understanding Atools.

Yes, I can only blame myself for my Kaiser's demise. To answer your question, the Kaiser is toast. It can't get bootloader and only has a blackscreen and one green light. Atools wins this round. But I'm not too concerened, I'm in a position where I have a nice stock of Kaiser's to fry before I need to peruse The DEFINITIVE MTTY thread.

Dark_prince, please don't blame my impatience entirely for the phone's death. Don't you think some of the blame definitely falls on me not being a bit smarter than 'ye old sticky thread (How to replace Windows Mobile with Android). Following that sticky verbatim will lead a WM6.0 user to HARDSPL first, and then update WM6.1. Ignoring that, the sticky also instructs users to use Atools, which requires it's own sticky.

In the passing year and a half since that sticky was updated, haven't newer versions of Android appeared with newer methods of installation that aren't covered in the sticky? Specifically, it's not clear to me where to find a newer Android installation tutorial that doesn't include Atools.

I'm comfortable that I could complete an Android-Haret setup running off the SD card, but I don't think performance would be acceptable. I want what you and others have

and I'm not above begging for your help to get it.

Now that I've burned one attempt, I need someone's input about how to proceed. Any help is appreciated....

In my usage case, I'm starting with an AT&T 8925 (Tilt) (KAISER100) w/ WM6.0 Professional. Here's where I stand on attempt #2

1. Cleared the storage on the phone.

2. In order to get the correct usb drivers on my Windows 7 PC, I downloaded and installed WMDC 6.1 UPDATE: WMDC 6.1 Does not install ALL the correct drivers, you'll need to force some by reading this thread.

3. A few toggles of "Advanced Network Functionality" later, the phone was Syncing nicely.

4. I then downloaded and flashed the Official HTC AT&T Tilt WM6.1 Upgrade ROM Success.

I now have stock WM6.1 and radio version 1.65.21.18

Next up, I'm trying to decide which HardSPL to use, and which radio will provide me with the best options from the Android Chefs. I don't anticipate any trouble flashing these. But, which combination of HardSPL and radio offer the best base package for an upgrade to Android? I'd love your advice.

Speaking that, after I upgrade the SPL and radio, how the hell do I get Android on my phone if I'm not suppossed to use Atools? Don't I need Atools in order to create a custom .nbh and Android install package for my Kaiser? If not, where can I find these files, especially if I don't know my panel type?