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[Nook Color General] jabrams:
I'm sorry if this is has been answered before but i'm a noob, but an actively learning noob =) There is so much information in these forums but it can be highly overwhelming with so much info out there and hundreds of pages, it's like finding a needle in a hay stack.

1. I'm unsure exactly what a kernel is.

2. I am currently running CWR 3.0.0.5 w/ (Nookie Froyo Custom 0.6.8). Can I / Should I update to CWR 3.0.1.0 even if I stick w/ Froyo? Will the update overwrite my system forcing me to reinstall everything?

3. I saw something about Tablet tools (or something similar in name). Does that get installed in CWR just like Google Apps? Do I install before or after the ROM (Froyo Custom / CM7)?

I would like to go to CM7. But am curious about different Kernels such as Darlingtons OC. Any other recommendations? I currently use SetCPU at 1.1 in Froyo w/ no problems.

Thank you for your help in advanced and to all the amazing devlopers out there!

~J
[Nook Color General] projektdotnet:
First off, read more before attempting anything. I cannot stress enough that you should always be sure you understand exactly what you are doing, even if you're unsure how the process works, otherwise if something goes wrong and you weren't sure what exactly was happening you'll be kicking yourself later.

The kernel is the part of an operating system that actually makes the software and hardware talk to eachother in a sane manner, read: it makes everyone play nice hopefully. CM7 does include one in the image but if you read further on how to flash stuff you can replace the stock one with an overclockable version if you'd like.

Some of the documentation I've found can be a touch confusing if you're new to Android to be sure, I'd reccommend reading thinkgs a few more times and asking questions about specific tutorials, it will help get you started in the direction you'd like to go.
[Nook Color General] projektdotnet:
OP Modified question to be better suited, new response to match:

Kernel, in OS terms I answered above, in Android terms it's basically the same except how it is updated vs on say a Linux PC is different, isnted of just installing it normally you have to "Flash" a separate file, more on that in response to #4.

I have CWR 3.0.1.0 and it works great, I am not aware of it overwriting previously installed ROMs but I'm not a CWR dev so take that with a large grain of salt.

Link to the thread in question, I'm not sure what you're asking about on this one.

CM7 comes with its own kernel but Darlington's OC kernel works amazingly well, he has packages that you can flash via CMR just like you would GApps, just make sure you grab the one that is right for your install of CM7 (SD or EMMC depending).

Hope that helps
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartiniGM:
My university is using EDUROAM has got a wireless network with the following specs WPA2/AES-CCMP, WPA2/enterprise, WPA/TKIP eller WPA-enterprise and logging on to it goes just fine.

But when I was using my old Desire the phone just logged on to the network when it was in range. With Desire HD I am required to use the credential/WPA2 enterprise security function - this means that I have to manually connect to the network after a reboot and type in the credential password to connect. If I don't remember to connect manually, I can go the whole day using mobile data instead of using wifi.

Why did the Desire connect automatically? Did the Desire connect without enterprise function?

Why does Desire HD require me to use credential security? And can this be avoided? I've tried to disable the credential database, but this will only delete the passwords and I have to make a new credential storage to logon again.

Anyone?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Omicron90:
I'm having this problem on my HTC Sensation as well, perhaps a problem with the newer HTC handsets? I wonder if there is a fix :(
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ywliu:
My wild guess is Desire might just support WPA1 or simply favor WPA1 over WPA2. And the newer DHD tends to be in favor of WPA2, for the sake of better security. All in all, they have their own ways to decide authentication methods....

As for WPA2/Enterprise, looks like Android doesn't support this yet. There is some discussion on google code about this and some possible workarounds involving root shell access to modify some files....

Hope this helps.

ywliu
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dekkzter:
Bump. I Have this issue aswell. When talking to HTC about my problem they didint understand me att all and said that they had never heard of it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
Been gone from the Eris side for almost a year now. Wanted drop a gift for everyone tonight.

We have been working on this since we got the dev Thunderbolt phone. This is a merge of 2.1 Stock Eris and the 2.2 Thunderbolt rom. Brings the new Sense from thunderbolt along with HTCSense.com compatibility from the DesireHD.

Fast, smooth and basic. Beyond that, nothing else really to day.

Don't let sense scare you off, ask the "old timers", when I drop a rom (rarely) you know its good.

As always, do a nandroid backup before flashing. Tested with amon ra's recovery. I take no responsibility for failing to backup, or damaged caused by my work. </disclaimer>

http://www.multiupload.com/SZ29O4Q5NV

Enjoy,

jcase

TeamAndIRC

*This is a humorous rom, do a nandroid back before flashing. Not ment for daily use. Not harmful. blah blah warning because people don't read the post anyways. For those that are not aware, ask anyone who was on this board last year about Codered.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Dahsar:
Wow
[Droid Eris Android Development] fo0you:
So this is a 2.2 sense ROM then?
[Droid Eris Android Development] JAS_21:
Sounds interesting, I haven't used a sense rom in ages. I'll give it a whirl.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Emunny:
Same here I'll have to flash and see
[Droid Eris Android Development] JAS_21:
Very responsive. No bugs as of yet. This just may be my daily driver!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] fo0you:
Having trouble getting SU permissions for anything. redownloaded the latest superuser, nothing happens. It goes to a blank black screen rather than asking for root rights. Ditto for using terminal and typing in the "su" command. Anyone else?

Also the firmware version is 1.5 (cupcake)?

I can attach logcat if you need it
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
What Sounds like you reverted to stock, maybe an old ruu on your sdcard? Reflash the rom again, I just downloaded and retested, Seems fine here.
[Droid Eris Android Development] fo0you:
not a chance of an RUU or flashback on my SD card.. just took a look at the build prop from your zip that you put in the OP. Just a mistake, or.......?
[Droid Eris Android Development] viogrep:
Was literally 5 seconds away from flashing it.... Is this an april fools prank? >:|
[Droid Eris Android Development] fo0you:
That was my initial thought when I first loaded it up with the bootani, but then I thought, no way is a respected XDA dev like jcase gonna mess around like that with an entire ROM. Not getting SU access + the rickroll bootani makes for pretty strong evidence though
[Droid Eris Android Development] viogrep:
at first I was like. >:))) (im fat, have alot of chins.)

then I was like. >:|)) (just cause I serious face, my chins don't disappear)

Well. My night is ruined. Goodnight.
[Droid Eris Android Development] fo0you:
Also, if he is on the west coast (Washington), it wasn't even april 1st (1155pm) yet.

Double lame.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sk842018:
Awesome job jcase as always, thank you for your work and time on this rom. :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] jamezelle:
one year ago today...

there was a thread just like this :-P

:D:D:D
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
Minus the complaints and naysayers, XDA crowd has seriously changed in even this short period of time.
[Droid Eris Android Development] fo0you:
HaHa? :confused:

well, good job I guess jcase.. certainly got me. Even had one dude saying it was a new daily driver :eek:

But come on dude.. the rick roll? what is this, 2007?

oh the sleekness of 1.5
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
Look up "Codered rom".
[Droid Eris Android Development] fo0you:
gotcha

no hard feelings or anything bro, was just excited that a veteran dev that i remember from back in the day put out a new ROM :D. Then Rick Astley with a cupcake shattered my world :(:D
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
:D All good. I still have an eris here...
[Droid Eris Android Development] sk842018:
Hmmmm,lol:rolleyes:
[Droid Eris Android Development] tazzpatriot:
Damn u beat me to it lmao... I built a Rick roll rom also lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] sk842018:
I think I flashed it lol,was it Gi:rolleyes:nger tazzV17???:D
[Droid Eris Android Development] emaninthenation:
Downloading now. Still worried cuz the file name is odd lol & not much info on OP but I will go forward with it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] emaninthenation:
Man I downgraded to stock cupcake. F! Well I. Got an update so yeah
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
You got us good, jcase! :) Thanks for the laugh. Luckily I suspected as soon as I read it!
[Droid Eris Android Development] emaninthenation:
Dang. IM over here redownloading the hundred of apps on my phone. I feel dumb. Though I did like the bootanimation music lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] hallstevenson:
Give jcase a chance to fix it and then re-download it :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
Awe you should of known better. It's t he original codered.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tazzpatriot:
lol i didnt download it,, i figured it was a joke, i remember the last time haha
[Droid Eris Android Development] JAS_21:
He got me this year. I don't think my Eris was rooted last April. I had the leaked 2.1 installed.
[Droid Eris Android Development] wildstang83:
Good one jcase. I didn't flash it on my old Eris but the thought of people that did gave me a good laugh.

[DINC]|[CM7]|[SLAYHER#27]
[Droid Eris Android Development] endoki:
Thanks god I was half drunk / half asleep when I got home last night... I would of have flashed the heck out of this! LOL :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] bfasty:
Hook...Line...and sinker!!!!!! good one. . . . got me good. the best part is i didn't even read the reset of the posts.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zerocool79346:
HAHAHAHA, man you had me. You didn't get me with the Thunderbolt one, but this absolutely had me going. I was about to dig the Eris out of storage just to give it a shot. Nicely Done!
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoovnick:
(slow clap)..........

nice :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] tazzpatriot:
Yea but the difference is people here laughing . People in the tb thread are crying
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
The TB thread just changes the boot animation too. Heh.
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Oh believe me I felt like crying. I just don't want to stop *sniff* showing *sniff* my manly side.
[Droid Eris Android Development] johnny quest:
Messed up but you got me. good song by Rick Ashley,
[Droid Eris Android Development] C.Hatfield:
D'oh ! (((echo > echo > echo))) was being heard time & again today throughout the XDA portal ..... still lmfao ..... Thanks for the laugh jcase :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] tazzpatriot:
Good song ? April fools right ? Lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] viogrep:
Would love to see download stats since the day is over. ;P
[Droid Eris Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
Flashed this on my old Eris without reading the thread first, i was laughing my ass off through the whole song:D
[Droid Eris Android Development] zerocool79346:
Yeah, not gonna lie, the Thunderbolt forums are full of cry baby *****es. Not just in that case either, they ***** about everything.

Screw'em Jcase, they wouldn't even have a Root forum without y'all.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
Hey man not me, im a former Eris user :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] zerocool79346:
Haha I'm definitely not saying all of them. I think the TB pulled a bunch of non-android users in who expected it to be just like their BB as far as battery and who have no idea how to use the OS.
[Droid Eris Android Development] orion421:
Agree'd TB forum sucks ass..
[Droid Eris Android Development] nyccharlie:
seriously though, is anyone working on the port? lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] tazzpatriot:
Have fun ..lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] tburns:
Nice 1 jcase very nice :D.
[Droid Eris Android Development] B3L13V3:
I am on the Tbolt forums I moved from the Eris to this beast I am not one of those cry baby *****es but I agree most are..so please re-phrase yourself.

Thank you and agreed

I find we have alot of great devs on the Tbolt forum and I'm very happy with the Tbolt...but your saying Tbolt forum sucks ass? Maybe your just upset you don't own one...
[Droid Eris Android Development] zerocool79346:
Lol wow...

I never said everyone in the Tbolt forum, I said it was full, there's a difference. No one is jealous that you have a Tbolt. I'm not getting one when I get the chance to upgrade in June, I'll likely either get the Bionic (depending on how much truth there is to P3droid's post about Verizon trying to find and shut down rooters) or the Inc 2. Come off the high horse, most of the devs who you're bragging about came up from the Eris and Incredible, not to mention the X and D2 and all of us have gotten to benefit from them, its not like they're just popping up out of nowhere.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Conap:
let's get the thread back on topic...i just got around to trying this jcase and i got to say i'm a little pissed. I don't think flash is working correctly cause my usual adult entertainment site won't play the video's like it did with my last rom. Granted by the time the boot ani is done I barely even need to go to my usual site but that's beside the point.

this is something along the lines of sarcasm and I have to admit I didn't actually flash it but it did make me get on youtube and watch our good ole boy rick do his thing.....i hope you have something planned for Easter!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] B3L13V3:
didn't mean to upset you in any way, shape, or form. You know this can go either way-me firing back-but **** it...:)
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
LOL! That's great!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] char561:
Wow, I just took a look at the tb forum and they are a bunch of whiny *****es... I thought it was hilarious (even though I was smart enough to not put that "virus/malware" or whatever else those people said) and I remember your april fools day last year as well
[Droid Eris Android Development] dbnaruto:
Awww, good old Jcase, we miss you with your nifty coding abilities and needed humor. Its all on good fun, and we at least owe you a good laugh after you found our jailbreak. Happy to see you :) - dbnaruto

Sent from my Droid Eris ♥ (running Tazz GB v17 [eat your heart out Jobs])
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ddukes76:
You went silent over in TB, hope all Is well, ur back doing any better? After oc'ing my virtual battery u sent me sucks ass, like the TB forums... J/k...lol

Sent from my TB, oc'd to 1.8ghz, 62 lin, 2600+ quad... Bow chikka bow wow!
[Droid Eris Android Development] bp328i:
I just saw this and almost flashed it...I own a Thunderbolt and can agree there are "SOME" cry babies over there. I mean come on it was just the boot animation, (if you can't change that on your own should you really be on this site?) I owned a OG Droid since day 1 and my wife had an Eris, both rooted the real way (ADB) so I have been in this section a few times (when she let me updated her ROM every 3 months...lol). I flashed the rickroll for the TB even after I knew what it was just for a good laugh.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tazzpatriot:
I wish bro. Doctor says there is nothing left to do..says ill never work again .:.. thanx for asking tho .wish I had better news
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ddukes76:
Truly sorry to hear that my brother. :( I have been pullin and prayin for u and ur fam.

On another note , I want a refund on the virtual battery u sold me... TB proves it aint virtual...and u my friend are a farce... ;)

Keep ur head up, and I always look forward to ur projects.

Sent from my TB, oc'd to 1.8ghz, 62 lin, 2600+ quad... Bow chikka bow wow!
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
I'm sorry to hear this, too. Your friends are pulling for you!
[Droid Eris Android Development] sk842018:
Hope you get to feeling better bro, were all here if you need anything
[Droid Eris Android Development] tazzpatriot:
Thanx bro.. u guys are all great :)...only thing that sux it waiting for my disability checks lol .. when they are late .. I'm screwed lol its not much but it pays the rent and gets me by lol
[Vibrant General] chui101:
Yeah, pretty bad news... what will we do now?!

And what will happen to team whiskey? I guess the drama on xda was just too much. Let's all wish him luck!

April fools!
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
damn you! you got me hanging there until i read that part. :eek:
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
I debate with a iphoner and from this topic I figured, the dude won, I throw in the towel, cause even my favorite rom developer is going iphone.....lol you got me.
[Vibrant General] younix258:
ahhh all these april fools jokes are just carnage on my soul )':
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
God dam u scared me.

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[Vibrant General] gongshow:
Not a wise day

to be a first time Odin flasher
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
Other than these two: :D

Overclocking

Loading modded roms

I mean let's all be honest, even if you undervolt and remain stable, any overclocking that will allow noticable performance, will have just as much noticable effect on the battery. And these are mobile devices. Battery should be considered top priority, not speed.

And what's the deal with wanting to load all these custom roms? Are they significantly better than stock, Adeo, or gingerblur? What do we need to load a fully custom rom for? Are they lightning fast and extend battery life by 100%? I guess I just don't get it. Deodexing and visual mods can be done without an unlocked bootloader.

Basically what im trying to say is. What is everyone *****ing about?

:)
[Atrix 4G General] mccoy007:
As far as I know, there is no way to unlock the Atrix's bootloader. It is encrypted. You may check the xda's frontpage, there is news several weeks ago regards to the Moto's bootloader.
[Atrix 4G General] _Dennis_:
I think you missed the purpose of the thread. He is not asking HOW to do it, only WHY you would need to, other then overclocking or loading ROMs.
[Atrix 4G General] daveop:
Honestly, it does make a big difference. Battery life can be very substantially increased in many of these roms. They both over and under clock processors to maximize the life. It's possible to get gingerbread on the inspire right now through custom roms because the boot loader isnt locked. It's possible to completely remove sense, whereas we have to live with motoblur. There really are a lot of reasons. Honestly, look at what Xda is all about, it's android development. Just take a look at the atrix dev forum vs the inspire one. Phones with a strong development community tend to live far longer because they can upgrade the os long after the company stops trying. The original g1 was only officially upgraded to 1.6 (I believe) but Xda has a few 2.2 roms that actually run pretty solid.

Tl:dr the list goes on and on of reasons that you want an accessible boot loader.
[Atrix 4G General] illmatic416:
Ability to load a custom recovery menu. Nandroid.
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
it's simple dude. people do it because they can.
[Atrix 4G General] booty hater:
Besides the fact you would get work and support from the awesome devs here another good reason would be most phones have their shortcomings.Most of the time this can be fixed in the software.The awesome devs here are able to in most cases get it sorted out within a week or 2 whereas if the phone manufacturer or carrier is gonna do something about it your gonna wait 6 months to get an update. A prime example of this was the rediculously low external and earpiece speaker volume on the inspire.On max volume it was just too low. Now the rom chefs can cook up custom roms with 20% volume increase.
[Atrix 4G General] poontab:
The 2 reasons you want to exclude are the main points. It's like saying "other than drowning; what's the point of learning to swim".
[Atrix 4G General] havlaz:
i want android 2.3.3 , can i ? no! i have to wait to an official update from motorola.. why ?!

i want htc sence in motorola , can i ? no !

we love to play and change things.. uman nature
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
Your first question says "ignoring custom ROMs..." and your second question says "What about custom Roms..." so I'll address the second question.

ROMs. Gingerbread. AOSP. Stock Android. Kernels.

Another consideration in favor of ROMs is the continuation of support by the dev community even after the manufacturer has EOL'ed a product. You still see the Dream (G1) getting roms with new features even though the phone has been effectively dead for a while now.

It is always in the phone manufacturer's and the carrier's best interests to kill off support to get you to buy the newest, latest device.
[Atrix 4G General] s1mpd1ddy:
I love my atrix.. but I visited the Inspire 4G dev forums... and.. yeah I got a little bit jealous. lol

I hope the few devs we have don't end up leaving and can crack this bootloader!!!!
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
I know what you mean. That's one thing I like/liked about my FUZE: there was a pretty active dev community, at least until the HD2 came out.

I'm planning on getting an Atrix on Monday and this is making me think about getting an Inspire instead. I guess I'll get the Atrix and if it blows I can take it back, get an inspire, and pocket $100.
[Atrix 4G General] dinan:
Wow is this seriously a question?

Nandroid backups, AOSP ROMs like Cyanogen where you get updates every NIGHT if you wish from the source Android build so it'll always be the latest version - no waiting for Motocrap. Battery life is usually way better, TONS of tweaks (being able to tweak my color balance of the screen, gamma levels, haptic feedback behavior, autobrightness levels and thresholds, lockscreen and messaging gestures, etc). That's all before even mentioning performance increases like overclocking, deodexing for themes, ext4 modifications for faster I/O. There's just way too many things to list but if you've never experienced a phone that has custom ROMs (especially Cyanogen) then I can see why you don't miss anything, but if you have, like me, you'll probably never want to settle for an Android phone that doesn't allow custom ROMs.
[Atrix 4G General] neotekz:
custom roms is reason enough...like dinan said if you ever used them you would understand. pretty much all the problems that people are having with the atrix could be solved if our devs had access to the bootloader.
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
I do see the importance of having continued support after moto leaves the phone behind. And it would be nice to have a dev make a rom to fix the coloring on the Atrix screen. Also I didn't realize that updates to custom roms come so often and that they had that much support.

I am starting to see now.
[Atrix 4G General] GatorRuss:
Luckily, there are a few other people working on the bootloader (I hope), as it is signed, not encrypted; there is a difference.

My phone before the Atrix was the TytnII, and the only reason I was able to keep it as long as I did was because of custom ROMS. If they are able to increase the performance of this phone the way they increased the performance of my 300Mhz/128MB RAM TytnII, then I will be giddy as a school-girl.

Do I need an unlocked bootloader? No, I absolutely love my phone the way it is right now, as this is my first Android, so I don't know what else is possible.

:cool: