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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Auzy:
I personally think this thread should be removed I'm afraid.. For starters, there are a billion other quadrant threads, and nobody has F***king bothered, as mentioned to collate the values into a table. Also, nothing is worse than breeding a culture of people who believe that Quadrant accurately measures the mobile performance for all workloads.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rschenck:
I agree with Ausy that this kind of thread is not of much practical use. I run Quadrant weekly, but only to compare my phone to itself as a diagnostic. If the Q score changes radically, I try to find out why. I also use it to compare ROMs.

However, I don't see that the benchmark scores of two different phones will tell you anything of much value when you compare them.
[Xoom General] gordec:
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Newegg is running $25 off $100 for new customers. This makes $599.99 Xoom $575 shipped probably best price right now.
[Xoom General] mmomike:
The code does not work for the XOOM.
[Xoom General] madsquabbles:
are you sure, or are you not a new customer? i've been buying since they opened so i'm far from new, lol.
[Xoom General] wase4711:
get it at Best buy; use your rewards card for 2% in points,plus you get 18months no interest!!
[Xoom General] atoy74:
Never ever go to best buy as a first choice. Get it at costco, enjoy a 90 return policy and price protection. Plus They'll throw in a gel case.
[Xoom General] paulcs:
I just got mine at Costco and I didn't get a Gel case!
[Xoom General] atoy74:
Go back! Yell! They were supposed to be honoring the online order.

http://goo.gl/ezjB9

Free Shipping

Motorola XOOM™ Wi-Fi

Multi-Touch HD 10.1" Screen

Android™ 3.0 Honeycomb

Bonus: Gel Case
[Xoom General] kirdroid:
Did you check the bottom of your xoom package? If it is not there, take it back and exchange.
[Xoom General] p2flol:
Lol I got 3 xooms from 2 different costcos all came with gel cases instore
[Xoom General] catttman:
Mine came with gel cases from on line order *nice*
[Xoom General] wang1404:
Got $15 back using reward card hen bought the xoom. Nothing special, I bought mine with the portfolio case. :-) but damn best buy is complicated. They made me print out the $15 certificate in order to use it for my invisibleshield yesterday, sigh.
[Nook Color General] TexUs:
So, how does this thing compare to an iPad and iPad 2 in speed?

While the GTablet, has better specs for about $50 more... The one area Viewsonic cut corners on is the one area IMO- you shouldn't: the screen.

So the closest things are the iPad and iPad 2.

Now, I recognize, this is 50% the cost of the iPad 2. I was just wondering how it COMPARES IN SPEED to the iPad 2 or GTablet????

The closest relative is probably the original iPad. How does it compare to that? For $50 more, I could get the original iPad. I didn't know if it was worth the extra $50 or not.
[Nook Color General] poofyhairguy:
Its hard to compare speeds due to them being different OSes. An iPad is smoother, but I think my Nook is more versatile.
[Nook Color General] brendonsmall:
I would put the Nook Color a bit ahead of the original iPad.

I think their processors are roughly equivalent, but the Nook Color has twice the RAM of the original iPad - 512 instead of 256MB

The iPad offers a great out-of-box experience. Its OS has hardware graphics acceleration, so it feels smoother when swiping and stuff.

The Nook gives you the ability to customize everything. And Flash. Flash will probably never come to any iPads.
[Nook Color General] TexUs:
All true.

The Asus Eee Pad looks promising, too. Better specs, $400. Worth $150 more, I dunno. Definitely a better deal than the iPad but cost/benefit ratio...... I dunno.
[Nook Color General] Dollyllama:
The $250 price tag (was on sale for $200 via B&N few weeks back) MORE than justifies buying the NC than the ipad, especially with the development community Android has...
[Nook Color General] Dollyllama:
sorry, I never replied to the original question...the iPad has a little smoother transitions when swiping screens etc, but IMO everything else is just as fast if not faster on the NC.
[Nook Color General] fpga_guy:
Our familiy has an iPad, Gtablet (tnt 4.2.5) and a NC stock rom 1.1.0 rooted with Autonooter 3.0

The iPad is by far the fastest and smoothest in terms of response to scrolling, etc... No problems as long as you can live with the apps from apple. No software maintenance issues.

As OP pointed out, the Gtablet (available from $300 now) has a poor display. However if you hold the tablet at a normal viewing angle, there's no problem. Has flash, no wifi issues, runs froyo. Battery life ~8 hours.

The NC as I have it configured is good if you want a 7" device. It does have wifi issues. I have kept it at stock in order to use it as a book reader with the stock app. Speed is noticeably slower than the Gtablet.

When I am flying, I take my NC. When going to work with my backpack. I take my Gtablet.
[Nook Color General] bluewhite79:
stock rooted eclair with O/c is pretty fast. who cares about the MaxiPad?

the nook is way more versatile.
[Nook Color General] chrzanek_:
for sure swiping etc. is more smoother on ipads. ipad 2 is also faster. however having in mind form factor, price & os system i went for nook color. now, with cm7 on board i do not regret decision at all. depends really what u like
[Nook Color General] TexUs:
Well obviously I expected the iPad to be smoother...

Just like Android vs iOS... iOS is smoother but in all honesty- it's just an illusion of faster speed due to the transitional effects. It smooths them over verses Android clunking by- speed is the same though. (assuming hardware is the same).

I was talking about the actual speed though. Time to launch a webpage, app, menus, etc... Is the NC roughly equivalent to the iPad 1 in these areas? It appears so from the responses?

How does the NC/iPad 1 compare to the GTablet/iPad 2? Is dual core significantly faster? (I have yet to use either a dual core tablet or phone- I don't know how much benefit dual core actually is to a device like this yet- web browsing only requires a certain amount of power).

To the poster with a GTablet, it was one I was looking at. However- for $100 more the Eee Pad has better specs and an IPS display... I think it's a no-brainer to wait out the Eee Pad once I go over the $300 mark.
[Nook Color General] ax135:
I had a Nook Color with customized Nookie Froyo 6.8.5. No wifi issues and overclocked 1.1Ghz. Just last weekend, I used my friends iPad2 for about an hour. The iPad2 is smooth swiping and all, but when it came down to surfing the web, it is just a bid faster than the Nook. Keep in mind that last week my Nook was still running at 800mhz. On the iPad2, I surfed my usual websites such as techbargains, slickdeals, dpreview, xda, etc. I really felt good about the Nook as it was almost as fast while surfing the net. Yes, swipping from screen to screen to find apps is fast, but in surfing the net, the iPad2 was just a tad faster than the Nook. All in all, the Nook is just awesome what it offers for $250 and you convert it to a Nookie. :-)
[Nook Color General] ax135:
Oh, also Flash is a big thing for me which runs fine on the Nook. I couldn't get onto sites such as mysoju.com on the iPad2. What a shame.
[Nook Color General] babbit:
I have an iPad 1 and a Nook Color w/ CM7 (stock kernal)..although it's technically my wife's. The iPad 1 is about the same as the Nook in terms of launching apps (equivalent apps). Launching a cross word puzzle on the Nook is faster than a 1GB 3D game on the iPad for obvious reasons. Web browsing is a lot faster on the iPad as well in terms of loading pages, scrolling, zooming, etc... The iPad also does 3D rendering magnitudes better (although I think that's more of a software issue at the moment).

The iPad 1 is also a lot smoother, but it looks like you don't care about that, and I don't really either. I.e. angry birds runs smooth on the Nook Color, but when you run it side by side with the iPad same stage and launch a bird at the same time, you can easily tell the iPad runs smoother.

A lot of posters are saying the iPad 1 is slower, but I'm thinking they aren't using the latest software released in March. In terms of speed, it goes Nook Color stock < iPad 1 (older software) < Nook Color (Froyo/GB rom) < iPad 1 (iOS 4.3.1). Note that this was me manually timing everything by launching and using apps at the same time. Benchmarks might show a different story.
[Nook Color General] Gh188:
I've got an up-to-date iPad 1st gen (iOS v4.3.1) and a Nook Color running Phiremod 5.3.

The iPad is much faster and smoother, especially when it comes to web browsing. Skyfire on the Nook Color is painful in comparison to running on the iPad. The only speed advantage I've seen is PDFs renders faster on Android QuickOffice vs. iOS Goodreader. Apple PDF render is garbage compared to Adobe Reader on Android.
[Nook Color General] poofyhairguy:
The new Opera Mobile uses the GPU for web browsing, like mobile Safari does, so it is the first web browser for Android that really competes. With that said, I like it WAY better than my wife's iPad2 for browsing thanks to a better implementation of tabs. I run CM7 with a 1.1GHz overclock.

The main limitation of the Nook Color is the GPU. The GPU is weaker than the iPad 1 or any other major mainstream tablet (Samsung Galaxy, Xoom, Transformer, etc.). You can tell when it lags on intensive 3D games.

But otherwise its an amazingly responsive device once set up properly. I think it will win in its price category for at least another 6 months or so....
[Nook Color General] lilbuddhaman:
i don't see the ipads as being comparable. They are a different class of "toys". The nook is just the right size for my interests, if i wanted something larger i'd prefer a laptop or at least something with a physical keyboard.
[Nook Color General] sark666:
Explain this to me about performance: I can install a game like pew pew that has a ton of things whipping around the screen at what appears to be a very smooth frame rate, but then just scrolling the application listing feels like 10 fps?!

I know this isn't the latest and greatest hardware but it is 800 Mhz. 800 Mhz back in the day was more than enough for something as trivial as scrolling a list of icons. Yes this is a mobile device, but still.

I'm not into low level development, but what is the issue exactly if not hardware? Android's OS? Are the icons vector images for scalability purposes but cause slow down due to redraw or something? If so, maybe they should be rasterized first.

It just seems that even on a lower end tablet such as this, smooth scrolling should be possible in most cases. Meaning at least menu's icons. I can understand complex webpages not smooth scrolling/zooming etc (well even then, you'd think 800mhz could do a better job if things were optimized more.) but the normal interface to the OS should be smooth.
[Nook Color General] poofyhairguy:
Android does not use GPU based acceleration in its phone OS. That is why iOS feels smoother, as Apple has doen that since the beginning.

To get around this you need to use apps that DO use the GPU, such as Opera for web-browsing or Launcher Pro for your app drawer.
[Nook Color General] sark666:
I just tried Opera and it seems a bit smoother I guess, but nothing dramatic.

I didn't know launcher pro uses acceleration.

You'd think by now it would be standardized to use gpu accel throughout the os.
[Nook Color General] sark666:
Ok launcher pro is much more smooth!!

Is there a list of apps that use hardware acceleration?

I understand that android is on numerous devices but how come a launcher or a browser can do it on various hardware but the OS itself and most apps don't?

Is google trying to make hardware acceleration part of honeycomb?

Is there initiative to get this going in some mods like cyanogen?

I think the sluggish experience turns off a lot of new users when in fact the hardware is more capable than what it seems.
[Nook Color General] poofyhairguy:
Um, not that I know of.

To be compatible with more devices. Its the Windows Vista problem.

I think so, but who knows considering what a hack Honeycomb is.

Its been that way from beginning. Apple had a great GPU GUI from the start from OSX (OSX used to run on 300mhz PowerPC machines), but Google started from scratch. Hence why Android phones need twice the hardware to be as responsive as iPhones.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] UbuntuBhoy:
Hey I found this while trolling about.

http://www.villainrom.co.uk/private/

It seems to be a Gingerbread Sense ROM being put out by VillainROM, but I am having issues getting it to download.

Can you guys check it out, just in case its my dodgy internet connection.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Imperticus:
The file is only accessible to admins, so unless you have the login and password you won't be able to download it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] L0cke:
Still if they already have a test version then it could soon be released. Will look forward to that :)

EDIT: http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/s...-RELEASE-Gingerbread-Sense-Hero-Initial-Alpha
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] NForce25:
Looks like april's 1st joke
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] biobyte:
right not buying it i hate april fools day every 1 is expecting pranks and stuff its more fun to do this some where on a random day :p
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
I've managed to download it and all I can say it runs preety smooth for an Alpha ... :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] hiato:
Would anyone who managed to download it, upload it for us please???

and how well is it working, camera, stability, feedback i mean...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] catsado:
2.3 ROM with sense for hero will be really sweet :) . Hope some1 develop that.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Iamhero123:
Downloading now.

Raise your hands if you want username and password :cool:
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] hiato:
Both hands are up :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Imperticus:
me too, i PMd you
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Wupper:
I could put the rom on my mirror :). (until villainrom is going to bother me about it :P)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] NForce25:
You guys are unbelievable, lol
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] arnoslag:
Both hands up
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bonesy:
Something fishy here...Donator on VR and my username password wont work....Pulser said use your usual name and pass...Anyone care to link me?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tomekk_nt:
1. Is this for GSM Hero?

2. Wird thing for me - we do not have 100% working Froyo Sense ROM (in fact - port) and now there is Gingerbread Sense ROM (it should be port, but from which hTC smartphone?)

3. Would be nice to test it, so I would appreciate any link/username/pass to this ROM on my PM :)

4. Or at least - screens :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Iamhero123:
That's enough hands for me :D

username:april

password:fools

I'm 100% serious, how did no-one think of trying that? :p
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] gertjanw1993:
I want a serious answer so i dont screw my phone up!

Does this work and can be used for daily use?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pulser_g2:
No. It isn't real. The username and password were a hint.

ROM wont flash, as I removed update script.

It is just VR13.

Happy April Fools :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] callummr:
I liked that you still went to the effort of changing some of the build.prop entries :p I noticed that but when some were still showing old 2.1 versions and the update script was missing.. Damn you Pulser.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] shenye:
I noticed that when I downloaded it from SCP and uploaded it to RapidShare. By the way, I uploaded it to rapidshare as free user and used all 10 downloads :P
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] riemervdzee:
What is the status on it anyway?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rdejager:
My guess not stable enough for release :P

Would love to see an actuall test version :D

The current GB roms all work, well not :P stupid blackscreen bug.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bonesy:
Hopefully we wont have to wait too long now as Reimer has got the 2.6.35 kernel going :) If i remember rightly the Sense 2.2 development was stopped as the kernel couldnt support the camera, although froyo was the same then ninpo was let loose!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] hiato:
Is it a ROM or just april fool???

i dont wanna get my hero bricked!!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tomekk_nt:
It's a joke :]
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] riemervdzee:
gralloc fails should be fixed at latest cm nightlies I believe
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rdejager:
Nigtlies for the hero has been failing to build or something, I dont know but now on a testrun for Elelinux latest and see how that turns out.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Imperticus:
Darn you pulser, fell for it although had it in the back of my mind that this could br april fools. :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pulser_g2:
OK I think we all know this was an April fool now... I'll close it since it's long after 1st April.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dadsterflip:
Sorry I've searched around. Can someone explain what smartass does ? On a kernel or how it interacts?

Interactive set up also?

Using adryn bamf rom 1.3. This is my first time messing with setcpu. He said to set it back to 1ghz is to use it but it only goes to 1032 close to 1. I don't really like overclockihg since the phone is fast as it is. Sorry for the noobish question thx again.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eschelon:
In a nutshell, smartass is a type of governor that controls the scaling of the procesor speed and controls the idle loop.

What does a governor do? Well, while a processor may be rated at 1.0 GHz, it is not runnng at full speed all the time. It only runs at that full 1.0 when called upon to do so for various intense functions and calculations. The rest of the time, when the phone isn't required to be doing much, the processor "underclocks" itself to conserve power, minimize heat, and prolong the life of the chip. It's like driving a car: You don't floor the gas pedal and constantly keep the engine at 8,000 RPM all day, and so it is with processor scaling.The governor is what controls this latter part. And there are several different types of governors out there that control the scaling in different ways

Interactive is one type of governor that takes command of the idle loop. Smartass sort of doubles down on that same concept, but is more responsive. Smartass also allows for the kernel to cap the max frequency when the phone is sleeping (screen off). This prevents the need to create sleep profiles while reducing power draw, so it improves battery life

While we're on the subject, a few other terms you may want to know since you'll start seeing them soon are BFS (brain f-ck scheduler - pardon the french) and CFS (completely fair scheduler). These are two types of task schedulers that linux kernels use to control task management. Again, in a nutshell, BFS generally is faster, but lags when multitasking, while CFS is slightly slower, but can handle multitasking a little better
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dadsterflip:
Hey thankbyou bro for taking time to explain this. I really appreaciate it. Now I can set up setcpu and actually understand some terms lol. Thx
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fatate:
I installed skype on xoom and it will never login to my account. I have the wifi version and when I try to login I get mesage can't login invalid password try again. I have no problem logging in on my desktop or my IPod.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knewman:
running it on mine right now, i had trouble logging in initially. I would enter my username/pass and it would just hang at signing in. I hit the back button and tried again and it worked. no problems since.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eaglecomm:
Worked fine from the beginning for me. Though the video doesn't work. ;)
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strauss0829:
I bought a dell streak off someone who had it rooted already ...how do I go about resetting it back to stock At&t so i can root myself and get everything on perfectly ????? I believe it has root and has streakdroid 1.6.0
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alperin1:
This is a complex device and it requires a complex person to operate it. Ha ha, just kidding.

I think no one is responding because you apparently have not been looking around the forum.

There are plenty of threads that will help you,please do some searching.;)
[Legend General] cphkelvin:
I can't search in the market, any suggestion for this issue?
[Legend General] Rapier:
Depending where are you from, it could be that Maps do not appear in the Market. I know, this is stupid, it is a free application on the market, but still it's not available on the market for some countries (mine included). What you can do is to grab MarketEnabler (from the Market), fake a different provider (I use some German one) and then search the Market again...you'll get Maps. After your post I've noticed that Maps are gone too so I have to do the same thing

P.S. Other way around is to flash latest gapps (Google Application package, they're on CyanogenMOD site and there are links here too)
[Legend General] cphkelvin:
I'm from Hong Kong, maps is originally available in stock rom market. After I flashed Rc4 ytd, it has gone then
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fhelix07:
help please :s
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SummonerOfDeath:
You can't see it at all in app drawer or you can't watch vids? that was my prob several times, tone yes, but black screen.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fhelix07:
i cant see the application -.-..:(
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pkn3000:
Maybe you have to download the YouTube app from the android market
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fhelix07:
uhm..its ok now i flash the newest elinux..thx by the way :D
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhoff33:
I did some searching but couldn't find any definitive results - does anyone have any experience getting a decent bash shell working on the gtab? I currently run VEGan.

I'm new to the gtab (woot purchaser) and the Android OS, but I'm very familiar with Linux and I've been reading these forums a lot since I made the purchase, so I'm comfortable with really screwing around with this thing!

I appreciate all the helpful and informative people who contribute to this place and I'll happily share my experiences as well!
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimcpl:
I'm not sure about Vegan, but have TNT and use z4root and Jack Palevich's (sp?) term from market, and the busybox I ended up w has 'ash', which is similar to bash. I also use Smart keyboard which has arrow keys, tab, abd Esc keys (for vi, which busybox also has). I created some softlinks so I don't have to keep typing 'busybox"...

Jim
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhoff33:
Thank you! I'll research these.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wd5gnr:
I use Better Terminal Emulator Pro and it works well. Needed it for the groovy SIMH Altair emulator anyway ;-)

GTablet... $370 (I missed woot by 2 days).... BTE Pro... $3.99

Running CP/M on a tablet... priceless.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makto:
there is a terminal emulator that runs what appears to be a bash shell over in the market.