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[Droid 2 General] nixternal:
This is what I found out. They are tracking use to try and detect those who are tethering. AT&T is also doing this now to try and find out who is tethering w/o the appropriate packages. What they will do when they find the un-authorized tethering people is beyond me, that wasn't told to me. I was also told not to install the GB leak. This comes from a very reliable source within Verizon. I wasn't told much more than that or what they are doing with violators. I don't know what the deal is with the GB leak, I just know I will listen to my friend and not install it. Usually I am one who roots immediately and gets to town doing what they don't want us doing, but since this came from a really close friend, I will listen and take his advice.
[Droid 2 General] phoenixus:
I don't see why you shouldn't install the GB leak if you are just doing the non-rooted version. I mean what will verizon do? Block you're phone when the official OTA comes out? They can't do that.

I really don't see anything wrong with installing the GB leak, especially if you aren't tethering or anything to steal.
[Droid 2 General] snowblind64:
So much paranoia! I always like the "friend at Verizon" story with vague warnings of punishment from Verizon should we install the forbidden leak.

You'll forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical of your story.
[Droid 2 General] aeidian:
I got a guy that has a friend that's related to the uncle of this chick that went to the same high school as this one dude that this other guy knew that said.....wait what were we talking about?
[Droid 2 General] HerroMoto:
I think a lot of people are blowing this out of proportion. Most the people at Verizon haven't the slightest clue about what the head honchos are trying to do. They pass a lot of BS to their employees to see who leaks out information. Verizon tries to keep secrets the best they can, I doubt anyone knows what Verizon is trying to do. That's going for VZW reps and such. I don't know exactly how the GB leak was leaked out, but personally I'm glad it was, it is such an improvement for our phones and something we really needed. If this happens it happens, I don't know what I'd do (leave VZW, unroot, stay rooted) until the time comes to be honest.
[Droid 2 General] justjayhere:
First off.. wow.. with the Big Brother is watching stuff. And 2nd who cares if they are?! I will root every phone I get until I drop dead. And if you want to know why they leaked the GingerBread Rom.. it's called Research & Development! It's the old, "if we can't beat them -secretly join forces with them".
[Droid 2 General] justjayhere:
So basicly.. we are their FREE beta testers. So who's using who here? Lol
[Droid 2 General] JeezyMT3G:
I just wanna know where is the evidence to all this? ....

Any legit links?

Any emails from Verizon or Motorola?

This all a "he said she said" thing and everyone is getting scared even unrooting!

And don't say the internet cuz in 1999 almost everywhere you looked said the world was ending in 2000 ...but yet here we are

This community, in my honest opinion, is taking this WAY outta proportion. Even tho I have cricket and its less likely to effect me, is rom development going to stop because of these "rumors" ?
[Droid 2 General] silverfang77:
I agree with that. What our issue is with is the idea of Verizon denying us use of the network simply because we rooted our phones.
[Droid 2 General] Conan Kudo:
I'm not sure AT&T would be allowed to do it since one of the rules the FCC imposed on Cingular when they acquired AT&T Wireless is similar to the rule Google got the FCC to impose on Verizon for the spectrum they are going to use for LTE. Those rules are still in effect. Verizon can only do this for CDMA phones, and AT&T may not be allowed to do it at all...
[Droid 2 General] nolimit208:
I dont care if they are tracking my phone and what I do with it. Doesn't bother me. I also will root any phone I have. I own my phone and should be able to instal and uninstal what ever app I want. I dont need crappy apps like amazon mp3 that comes stock and other crap that was unremovable without rooting.

I also like the customization that comes with rooting.

Ya I understand if they put a hault to the tethering stuff. YOU are using their network they can limit that as much as they want. But limiting MY phone to the customization rooting allows I dont ever see them putting a stop to.

And the FREE beta testers hehe I total see that. I work in Product Development and if I can get people to test my stuff without wanting anything in return that is sweet. Granted I can see a few people returning thier phones if they brick them but I am sure that is a lose VZW already calculated and thought of if they did plan this leak.
[Droid 2 General] infiltwb:
Magnusson moss warranty act states that a warranty claim cannot be denied without proof of abuse iirc. This is straight from memory so i apologize if im a tad off on the wording but the reference above to a car warranty claim with aftermarket mods is accurate. Without damage from a direct mod a claim cant be legally denied. However, verizons out is insurance.
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
So, whoever it was on this site claiming to work for Sprint is likely full of it.

He assured people over and over that if your upgrade was before April 1st that you would NOT lose it.

I had an upgrade in March (save 150$). I lost it. All I have now is save 75$ or save 150$ in 273 more days.

Now that T-Mobile is going away, Sprint will likely do more stuff like this. :mad:
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
I bought my evo last year the day it was releqsed (i think june 4th)on contract and it shows Im eligible for the full $150
[EVO 4G General] dezel29:
i was eligible for an 150$ upgrade in feb, now it shows 75$ and and 150$ in january...i am confused and hope that this asking for a reset thing will work...if not i may leave for T-Mobile when it gets the HTC Pyramid..same as Evo3D just no 3D...
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Don't worry buddy all these wireless providers are starting to do shady sh!t like that its pretty sad. When I start my own wireless company called "diggler mobile" ill let you switch your numbers over; My slogan will be "come to the darkside, we have LTE" :-)

On topic though, why would you listen to someone over a forum(not bashing dirtyshroomz ^_^) but wouldn't it have been smarter to call care, or chat with a Rep in store?; people sometimes carry different info man so you really can't point the finger at anyone.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
People new this was coming so why are they *****ing?

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
I got some bad information from someone in a forum. It is obviously a lesson learned. Dirtyshrooms claimed to be a rep and I believed him.. so what. I won't make that mistake again.

So, why are you *****ing about me *****ing anyway?

I was looking at the HTC 3d, but definitely not now. It may be all the better since HTC is locking that crap down anyway =\

T-Mobile is soon to be AT&T so I highly doubt there will be anything there for me... although I am checking into it right now.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
lost mine too, I only 120 days out from my contract being done anyways. I bought evo full price and plan to do so with the nexus s, and sell my evo for +150 plus should be like upgrade price anyways.

On a side note I remember reading that android would lower the prices of phones since OEM's would not have to hire software engineers to make their own or license from MS. So when is that going to happen

This statement is no intention of *****ing or trolling
[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
asking question =/= *****ing
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
I was strongly considering the Nexus S myself. I can't pay full price right now tho. I might be able to by the summer.. but the Nexus S will be even more older news than it is now =9
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
Seriously guys, if you aren't talking about anything, GTFO

Nobody cares if you agree or not.
[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
for instance, your post.
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
Are you done now? Good

What is this reset I read about? Are people just calling and asking for a reset or is there some kind of deal involved?
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Because it's a bull****, underhanded, bait and switch move. Yeah Sprint is within their contractual "right" to rescind the incentive they offered so many thousands of people, but it's dirty pool man. In retrospect I do believe this was a calculated move to maximize new subscriptions with the EVO then turn around and sell more EVOs before the next big **** comes out.

A csr said to me "but sir, none of our competitors offer yearly upgrades".. Ma'am, none of your competitors offered yearly upgrades WHEN YOU OFFERED IT TO ME IN 2009!!

They have absolutely sent the message to this consumer "We know we're the best deal in town, if you want to go to Big Red or Hell (at&t) please BE OUR GUEST!, and fvck off while you're at it"

Of course I'm not leaving Sprint. IMO they have the best phone (just one, the evo, but I only need one phone) and I admit all this apparent collusion between Sprint and Google is very exciting.

In summary: Sprint, imo you're the best wireless service provide but why you gotta go **** blocking us loyal customers right before the hottest ***** in history hits the street??

That hurts my feelings, and I feel some serious e-blue-balls coming in a few months..

Ultimately I'll probably end up selling plasma (kidding) so I can buy the 3D at full price, but dammit you can't make me be happy about it!!
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Enjoy your Egyptian phone. Take care now, bye-bye then...
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
Just called, FIRST I would like to apologize if dirtyshroomz see's this. I am still eligible for an upgrade so I jumped the gun ALSO to let everyone know, for some reason my line that has $75 dollars off in September is going to be a full upgrade JULY of next year, so its no a full 12 months thought that was pretty cool!
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Yeah that would be the "smarter" thing to do.....lol
[EVO 4G General] dcfella:
I had a webchat with a sprint csr last week, and he said I had a full upgrade eligibility as of 7/1/11. I got my phone on 7/30/10.

On April 1st, i texted upgrade to '1311" and it said the same thing...$150 upgrade on 7/1/11.

Well I just logged onto the Sprint website and now they are saying 5/1/12. I guess no EVO 3D for me. Sprint's ETF are pretty small, so I imagine I'll just break contract and go somewhere else this summer.
[EVO 4G General] bkrodgers:
Rule of thumb: Don't take the word of a guy who calls himself "DirtyShroomz" as gospel.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
DirtyShroomz does work for Sprint, he's been around for a long time on these forums and he's helped a lot of people out.

Instead of your wild claims about how Dirty ruined your life, why don't you either:

a) PM him and work it out, or

b) at the very least, post a link or at least quote the "bad" information he gave you.

Starting a thread to specifically bash another user (especially one who goes out of his way to use his unique position and experience to help others, OFF the clock for free).... well that's just a low blow, man.

I'm not saying he didn't give you bad info, but I am saying you need to either post the specifics or keep your mouth shut.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
How is T-mobile an improvement?

At least Sprint offers a way to get yearly upgrades...

Complete and utterly agree.
[EVO 4G General] flight01:
Hey guys just throwing my 2 cents in here. But from what i have seen and the different reps i have talked to everyone is getting mixed answers and no one knows exactly what was gonna happen.

Most corporate store reps i talked to said use it or lose it. While third party retailers either had no clue or said if u become eligible b4 april 1 they cant take it from u.

So i dont really think its one persons fault sprint has poor communication inside thier own company and even worse to outside sellers. So maybe Shrooms store or whatever was told they cant take it from u if u become eligible b4 the cut off date.

Call sprint threatin to leave and have them reset the date cuz i have a few friends who have already done so and now they are ready for whatever new device is comming this summer with full upgrade in hand
[EVO 4G General] cordell12:
I had earned my upgrade on Feb 28th. I used it and got a Evo, then decided to return the Evo on my 29th day, March 27th. My upgrade was given back to me two days later, March 30th. I was assured by the rep I will still have it come April 1st, I feel for those who got it taken away. For some reason my upgrade is still available though.
[EVO 4G General] totalanonymity:
It's pretty messed up that all the new customers they got from the EVO and the ones who stayed on due to it and were two months from being eligible for a $150 upgrade are now getting a $75 upgrade. I mean, hey, better than nothing, but I'd love to have $75 more off... :(
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
its more than $75. The full upgrade also enables rebates which are usually an additional $100.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Sprint is moving away from rebates.
[EVO 4G General] a1platnum:
I was eligible 2/11 and it changed to 2/12 on 4/1/11. Called, stated my situation and was reset by retention.

Swyped from my HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Temporarily - either way, you wont get the additional $100 off whether its instant or mail in.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You are making negative claims about a forum member and you don't even provide evidence that he ever was in contact with you.

Instead of doing this thread you could have simply contacted that person directly or at least come in and made a thread with less attitude toward that person instead of just accusing people of lying on purpose.
[EVO 4G General] tinybfk:
This thread could have been prevented if you would have read all of the other ones on the same subject. DirtyShroomz said it could be reset, he also said it would dissapear. Did anyone complaining about this even attempt to read one of the several threads about this that he has already been helping in. Or even attempt to pm him and ask before saying he's a liar and blah blah blah? If you can't do any of that you don't deserve your upgrade anyways lol.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
When you resort to name calling, it's pretty telling.....

You created your account yesterday. Shroomz has been around for a long time. You're obviously lying about talking to DirtyShroomz before your upgrade disappeared if you didn't even have an account until after you lost it.

But hey, way to get off on the right foot here!
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
sent from my
[EVO 4G General] animal7296:
I lost mine as well but as I stated in another thread:

I just called sprint and talked to a few people, got transfered about 4 times and landed in the caring arms of the retentions department. The lady I spoke to was very nice and submitted a request to reset the eligibility on two of my phones. It should show in 24 hours. I will report back and let you know what happens.

Also I believe being as nice as possible and pleading ignorance to the S/P changes helps a lot. Telling them that you are going to be spending almost a grand on new phones when they release this summer didn't hurt either I'm sure..

Well I am happy to say that as of last night I have 2 lines that had their eligibility reset.
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
It's all good guys. I appreciate the fun, nothing like reading a lot of nerd rage to liven up an otherwise boring Sunday.

Feel free to throw out some more clever one-liners if you like!
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Your mom is a clever one-liner..

lol
[EVO 4G General] meeklo062704:
I've never bought a new phone with the $75 upgrade, but it would be the same discounts as the full upgrade with the $75 instead of the $150 wouldn't it? If that's the case, I'd much prefer that over switching to Verizon and getting $75 in extra surprise fees the first couple months I was there. Believe me, I've been pouting about premier gold just as much as everyone else, but if its just $75 bucks I can live with that. If I'm incorrect about the $75 please let me know.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Good to see it's working for more and more people around here... You're the 5th or 6th person that has had it reset
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I assured people they wouldn't lose it? No I said call in and ask for a reset. I also stated very clearly that more than likely the system will remove it, which it did for most people, some it did not. Now, if you've been reading the site, multiple people have had it reset.

You're welcome.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
The two I talked to said they would reset it if I already had it.. but not for me since it was coming up I June...

Any thing you can do dirty? :p
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Yeah, Dirty, I agree, can you help us out?

My dog has a cold too, can you help us out? ;)
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Can't... problem is a reset cant be set to be future dated, once it's reset it's available so they won't do it early. Now if they notate you can get it reset once June comes, they will honor it.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
That ones simple, buy a cat :P
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
No. What you said is the new policy wouldn't affect anyone who has an upgrade before April 1st. That is what you said and it is simply untrue.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Where? I must have missed it
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
Here's one example.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12295455&postcount=48

I had my upgrade in March... it said save 150$ and now it was taken away, which is what you said wouldn't happen.

I
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Prior to my final post on what would happen so I apologize for that, should have read the new, updated post ;)
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
See, then you can understand why I would be up in arms about it when it hit me out of nowhere. People flame me in this thread and that's fine..

I admit I should have looked into it more, but I took your word for it since you work for Sprint. It was wrong, I lost my upgrade for whatever silly reason. Lesson learned.

No offense to you personally, but Sprint employees can't even keep straight the BS Sprint pulls. If I would have called in, who is to say I wouldn't have received the same juggled information that was in that thread. It's over and done with now tho, so no big deal.

Flame away if you guys like
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Hasn't it been said that if you call and talk to retentions and explain that you had it and it went away that they will extend it to you?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
A number of people in here following my thread have had their upgrade reset. I suggest giving it a shot. I will always update my OP as new information develops. So while I see why you're frustrated because at one point it seemed like Sprint would leave people who already had it alone - the OP was edited as that changed.

If you ever have the pleasure of working for a cellular company, you will come to see that things change on a pretty much daily basis, sometimes even faster.
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
Yes I understand that. It is my fault and I accept that. I don't follow this site and these threads as much as a lot of people do so I'm not in the know all the time.

I'll call in and see if they will reset it. If not it's not a huge problem. I was really looking forward to the 3D but it is about 70% less appealing to me with an encrypted bootloader. The Nexus S looks good, so if they DO reset it for me, I mat got that route.

I also apologize for being an ass, it was just kind of a shock I guess. I appreciate you taking the time to respond and at least explain it tho, that's a lot better than what other members here do.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Don't assume that the Evo 3d will have a locked bootloader, we just don't know yet.

Hopefully not.
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
I didn't really at first.. I'm still hopeful honestly, but, with people like the CM team sounding so sure about it being locked.. it doesn't look good. It will still be a great phone, but I need to be able to run custom roms/kernels/themes. Especially with the notoriously bad battery life HTC devices have.

Granted the 3D will have a nice sized battery, but we still don't know what the drain will be with the new hardware/software. I like options.
[EVO 4G General] twiz0r:
I just tried to get my upgrade back for sept. 1st. Went to the fourth level. Talked to a supervisor named heather. She wouldn't do anything :(

swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
We can only assume the battery life will be terrible right lol. Most of us are getting it because of the glasses free 3D(I said most). Using 3D alone probably drops the battery life dramatically; ex Nintendo 3dS last about 7 hours with 3D turned off, once you turn it on your entire battery life is 2 hours Max! I know its a phone and a game system but my point is the 3D feature. If I decided to get it I would because of the glasses free 3D and recording technology(HTC better have a decent battery in this thing man).

I really just hate the way it looks so I'm going to get the nexus s anyways full price since my upgrade is way in sept.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
Huh? No one flamed you, dude. People were incredibly restrained in their communication with you, in light of the fact that you were publicly bashing a respected member of the forum without providing anything to back it up.

Who was really doing the flaming?
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Oh my God... who started that... LOCKED bootloader means nothing!!!! Pretty much every android phone has had a locked boot loader. What we don't want is an encrypted one like moto has put out.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Yeah I know but you know what I meant ;)
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
It's over. Let it go.
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
I think everyone knows exactly what we're talking about . Encrypted is designed to keep people from unlocking, so it's locked.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
Well, if you wanna get all technical, what we don't want is a signed bootloader :D
[EVO 4G General] KB112:
No....$75 discount is just that....only $75 off the retail price. You are not eligible to the extra Mail In or Instant rebates. Example, if you are eligible to the 1yr $75 upgrade: Phone = $450 retail you pay $375 (450-75). If you are eligible to the full upgrade of $150 Phone = $200 (450-150-100 instant or mail in rebate).

These numbers are assuming the phone will be only $200 with full upgrade. I bet it will be higher. Hopefully only $250 though. :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] tyvallely:
If you haven't heard all ready Verizon is tracking down root users and limiting there data or fully suspending it so watch out. But we have to fight back against them by hiding Verizon from seeing that we are proudly rooted and some people have said the would sue Verizon. Please do whatever you can to fight against this.

Also motorola and htc are going to start doing the same.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] spc_hicks09:
How are they "supposedly" tracking down root users?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] playpolo4life:
Why would they have any desire to do that?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] tyvallely:
they are developing software to do so
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] tyvallely:
because they want people to pay for there 3g hotspot instead of people using wifi tether and if they catch people I think they earn money somehow. I am trying to research into that.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] spc_hicks09:
In order for them to do this it would take too much time and money. They would use more money trying to catch rooters than they would save by catching rooters. It's simply not going to happen. If they're going to make "software" to do this, how would it work? What software could they possibly send out to find out if someone is rooted? Yes Android is trying to make their software a little less "open," however, no one is trying to "track down root users." It would be too complicated and would violate their own "open source" policies. If this is even remotely true, what is your reference for posting this? What is your source?