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[Atrix 4G General] Athailias:
Battery life?

I am running a test of a custom kernel for my captivate. I turned off everything and wanted to see how long it would last.

No wifi or data (no sim card installed) it ran idle for 11 days.

Custom Kernel with no wifi or data its going to last about 50 days. (based on current estimate as im still testing it)
[Atrix 4G General] naplesbill:
Just an FYI, there are devices with locked bootloaders that have custom ROMs. This includes the X10, which has a Gingerbread ROM. The issue is getting a newer Android build to work with a stock kernel. Unlocking the bootloader is key to building custom kernels but there are methods for getting custom ROMs without a custom kernel.
[Atrix 4G General] lockheedload:
Developer support.

/thread

-Sent from my Galaxy Tab
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
Well this isn't exactly a real world situation. Who's to say that you're not running the cpu at 1mhz with the screen powered off 24/7. wouldn't you prefer to test under load and real use?
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
Anyway to tell yet whether it will be possible on the Atrix?
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
Oh, well geez. Having heard this I apologize for even making this thread to begin with....
[Atrix 4G General] knigitz:
Devs can fix that multitouch "feature"/issue and update the kernel, add more features, et cetera..
[Atrix 4G General] ChongoDroid:
Trust me, custom roms are the ****

Sent from my Motorola Olympus
[Atrix 4G General] toughbax:
Tech support would be my biggest reason. instead of getting support from a company out to make money, you get support from a community, arguably more talented, who's sole interest is making the best software possible.

Who is likely to fix a bug faster, the company that already made its money off you or the programmers who make and use the software because its what they enjoy doing?
[Atrix 4G General] sdlopez83:
to make you eggs and bacon in the morning
[Atrix 4G General] jhisey:
Or just come up with your own reason, and if you can't, move on to another thread as bootloader threads don't pertain to you. ;)
[Atrix 4G General] tweaked:
To build your own custom rom. I want my phone to be for me. I don't like them to be made for "everyone". I don't use half of the "everyone" stuff on a stock phone. Plus I don't want to show up to a family function and find that my grandmothers phone is the same as mine in every way.....:eek:
[Atrix 4G General] tasty_boy:
i didn't see any reason to have a unlocked boot too

i wanna buy a phone that is good as is, and want stop this "mod" thing!

since my old Motorola E398

really don't matter bout this question!

battery is the most important thing to me!
[Atrix 4G General] knigitz:
So, why exactly do you come to xda-developers again?

There are a lot of advantages to an unlocked bootloader.
[Atrix 4G General] naplesbill:
Well, it involves finding a way to boot a newer build over the existing kernel. I have watched this happen on Galaxy S devices and on the X10. I am sure it can be done, but someone with more time than me will have to do it.

It appears that the X10 locked bootloader has finally been bypassed, so that should give hope to Atrix users. It just takes the determination of a few Devs to make it happen. Of course, it will also take time.
[Atrix 4G General] peacekeeper05:
Nandroid backup is a big enough reason why you would want to have an unlocked bootloader.
[Atrix 4G General] daveop:
Do yourself a favor and get the inspire. Atrix development is mostly dead. Im trading mine tonight, I just can't keep overlooking all the things that drive me crazy about this phone.
[Atrix 4G General] naplesbill:
I understand where you are coming from. I have both devices, but I actually prefer the Atrix as my daily driver. The Inspire is just a bit to large for my taste. However, it is an awesome piece of hardware. It may not have dual-core, but it's plenty fast and well put together (both software and hardware).

The Atrix has better battery life, and a better form factor for me. I do have large hands, but I prefer a device that is more pocketable than the Inspire.
[Atrix 4G General] Khoops66:
Let's just delete the bootloader. That will help it right?
[Atrix 4G General] ChongoDroid:
Your joking right lol ;)

Sent from my Motorola Olympus
[Atrix 4G General] TareX:
I have ONE reason:

To be able to load a Ice Cream Sandwich ROM once Google releases it in May.
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
What exactly drives you crazy about the phone? I actually find webtop very useful, the other poster should consider that when deciding between the Atrix and Inspire
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] zxmaster:
Excuse me for my bad english.

I've rooted my x8, after I want to install apps2sd, and it don't read adb command, now also the sim card it doesen't know and it doesen't connect with wifi.

What can I do?

Thank you
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] sanefirst:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1011071
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] cuecak:
if u cant do the tutorial above... just bring to service center.. :D they will fix it for u... :P
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] zxmaster:
Thank's of all!!!

I've resolved. I reinstalling the software with "Update service" and my phone is as new!!
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] diabolicalprophecy:
hi,

im new to this forum. i bricked my x8 2 days ago.. i was trying to install floyo 0.1 ROM. i was trying to format dalvik cache( is that what its called?) but accidentally i formatted my system.

i have managed to back up my system via xrecovery before the brick

. is there a way i can put it back in there?... i cant boot in xrecovery since probably its gone after i formatted my system(guess since nothing happens when i press back key multiple times).. any help will be appreciated... i tried SEUC, nothing happens after i plug in my phone holding back key, pc companion keeps crashing after preparing computer (v2.10.053).......
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] mayurcools:
download and install stock OS by flashtool and then root it and install recovery using flashtool

after that you can restore or install wtever you want.

press thanks if helped
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theduckking:
They're pretty reliable I guess, they just can't be translated to real life performance

http://briefmobile.com/cyanogen-demonstrates-quadrants-flaws
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nedooo:
Not so, with GB and lag fix kernel and modified prop I had over 2300, but rest of the UX was bad even games were jumpy, now i have less than 1000 with Quadrant and butter smooth UX (user experrience) and better and more stable framerate in games than ever :cool:

Let's say on PC you have great score with PC Mark and 3D Mark but you can't play 3D Tetris...

Quadrant Advanced is better in terms that it gives you separate score chart for different parts of test.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Its a benchmark that does not reflect the usability or response of the SGS .

Highest score on Eclair then with each upgrade score gets lower and phone gets faster more responsive and less laggy .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Auzy:
Quadrant results are useful if the ONLY thing you want to run on your phone is quadrant, because that's what it tests. It's similar to how on PC's, some games prefer different video cards. It also comes down to space/speed of algorithms..

The best thing to do, is to uninstall Quadrant, and test the ROM's yourself
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vintagephone:
So I loaded Serendipity today. Master cleared and everything. So I was really surprised to find old pictures on my phone when I opened the gallery app. And strangely it wouldn't let me delete them. Hmm. So I looked in the sd folders, dcim etc. Cannot find these pics anywhere! The gallery app did tell me the file names So I loaded up root explorer and ran a search... NOTHING!

These pics show in my gallery but I can't find the files anywhere. Where are they hiding?

Carl
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vintagephone:
Went into the stetting, manage applications, to the gallery app and hit clear data, and these strange photos vanished! Still don't know where they were. but they are gone now. Would loveto hear where they were stored if anyone knows...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vintagephone:
Spoke too soon! So after a reboot, the folder of pics comes back! If I clear the gallery app's data, it vanishes again, but returns after every reboot. Can anyone help with this?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pc103:
Is it a stack of thumbnails (separate folder path) or viewable image files? If you have external SD maybe browse it on a PC.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vintagephone:
It still there with no external SD, and I can't find it from the PC or root explorer.

You, know, I have a blog, and these all seem to be photos on my blog. And blogger seems to be hooked to Picasa Web albums. So I'm thinking Gallery pulls pulls the contents of my Picasa Web album down to the phone... could this be? Can it be stopped?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
If you have them linked then yes that is where they are comming from and why they keep comming back. The only way to stop it would be to but a no media file in the target folder, back draw is that the file will hide it from all Android apps that look for media
[Fascinate General] deaffob:
April fooooooooooooooooolz
[Fascinate General] Shinebox:
I am running that "gingerbread" rom

and my camcorder and MMS work. My quadrant score is exactly the same too. Seems fishy... and for some reason. I can't post on that thread.
[Fascinate General] MaskaMage:
But, But... my friend over at VZW Tech Support told me that the Gingerbread kernal/rom/update was going out today at noon.

Surely that's something to believe isnt it????
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kevin001111:
I just want to know what I can do to improve my battery on CM7 nightly 32. I'm at 21 hours now and almost dead. Yet I see people get stuff like 2 days and 10 hours... I have tasker and the only profile I have is when the screen goes off it turns mobile data off (not sure If it works so I also use apndroid). I NEVER use wifi, bluetooth, or high brightness. I do however have gps on so in case I lose my phone is lost or stolen I can track it. So there's no way I'm disabling that. I have tried juice defender but figured since it can't effectively disable data for 2.3.3 I saw no point in the app. Any tips?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kevin001111:
Sorry for the typos, I'm half asleep and there's no editing option in the xda app... atleast add it to the premium version!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nospin:
21 hours on moderate use is great battery life. 12 hours is usually the measuring stick for smartphones, less is bad, greater is good.

Don't know who you saw getting two days plus, but they are either not touching their phone or have an extended battery.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] Athrun88:
Best way to extend battery life is to get an extended or high capacity battery. I just got the Mugen Power pack, not the chunky one, and im in the process of breaking it in.

On my stock battery i was getting about 17hrs of moderate use. Almost no talk but alot of texting, engadget and youtube mostly on wifi with gps always on. That might give you an idea, plus, there are countless battery related threads on here.

Will post back in afew days after my Mugen has cycled afew times.
[G2 and Desire Z General] scottmog:
I have 4 stock replacement batterys and never plug my phone in to the charger. When my phone is at about 5% i just take one out and pop the next one in and charge them in the wall... I know its not the answer you want but I never have a problem with battery life lol ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] gbarayah:
I would agree that 21 hours is great battery life on this phone. I can get a week of battery life on my phone if I put it in airplane mode and stick it in my desk drawer =P

Not sure how big of an impact the tasker profile has. Unless your screen is off for long periods of time I would think that it might harm the battery life because every time you touch the device, it has to 'search' and connect to the tower again.

You can try running the phone at the stock CPU speed to see if that has an improvement on your battery life. I currently run the same 1017/245 as you with a screen off profile set at 245/245.

For me, as long as I can make it through a day's use, the battery life is fine. With moderate use I can go about 15-18 hours and heavy use I'm at around 12. The car charger in those cases is a life saver.

Bottom line is, battery life really depends on your usage habits. Those people getting days out of their phones likely aren't using them very much...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kevin001111:
well i have setcpu set at 806 max and 245 min. screen off is at 245/245 and on powersave governor. other then that its on ondemand. i also have profile set to reduce the CPU based on battery. I have it set to <101% its at 806/245 , <41% its at 768/245 and less then 25 is 368/245. i realize that these are low speed but i hardly ever get lag and i use it for everything, music, video, youtube, internet, twitter, facebook, xda :), and a here and there gmail. i guess if im getting exceptional battery life... anyone want some tips?
[G2 and Desire Z General] deliriousDroid:
I find the more variation I put into profiles on setcpu, the worse my battery life gets. Theory - it is constantly watching and making changes based on your CPU needs and battery. So I have mine set to 1113-1113 performance, 245-245 powersave screen off, 245-245 powersave 45degrees+ and for your mobile data, try just having a widget to turn it on and off as you need it. You probably don't need it on everytime you turn on your screen do you?

Sent from my SilverBullet "HTCDesireZ running CM7"
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kevin001111:
The apndroid widget eventually gets out of sync with on/off with the data... I think its gingerbread. Most apps can't effectively turn the radio off. I hope they make one soon!
[G2 and Desire Z General] potentdro:
I find the stock battery to be not that great. I bought the Chichi batteries way back in October (when they were still considered cheap) and theyve been great. I havent really done any new tests since October, but back then (before I had a data plan) I was getting atleast a day and more (from 100% to dead) with moderate usage.

I'd look for a high capacity battery, though they seem to be expensive now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] deliriousDroid:
The power bar widget that comes with cm7 works perfect for me. Turns onoff Wi-Fi/apn/GPS/brightness/airplanemode

Sent from my SilverBullet "HTCDesireZ running CM7"
[G2 and Desire Z General] Cimer:
I just tested out my battery the other day. I got a day and 13 hours and I was at 19 percent. Wifi is a big battery killer, and brightness is too.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tackleberry:
Ill post a battery success story...sounds nerdy lol. And i live at my own home with my own family lol.

My mothers g2 is rooted and running cm7 nightly 29 or 30, I installed it last week. I asked her today for the first time how the battery was after a week. She is using an aftermarket 1800mah battery, wifi only at home, she was almost at 32 hours and had 39% battery left!!!!

Not sure of all settings but i put it on 1113mhz, on demand with min 368, autobacklight, wifi only at home, bluetooth is always connected and on. Talk is about 70% of her usage overall. 4 gmail accounts. I did not install set cpu at all. I even stopped it on my phone because it didnt help me one bit.

Not too shabby. I was at 57% with some texting but a lot of gps usage for latitude and wifi always on even when not at home.

sent from the rooty tooty fresh and fruity cm7 nighly powered G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] arpitnathany:
here is what i get out of a day (battery consumption for specific tasks are mentioned in percentages measured using juiceplotter)

wifi on constantly

display set to 24% brightness

background sync enabled (google, weather 6hrs, whatsapp and facebook once a day)

45 min video (rockplayer no h/w decoding) 15%

1 hr browsing+chat 15%

30 min calls 6%

20 min music+chat 5%

20 min general usage 5%

1 hr flash streaming 15%

24 hrs standby 24% (@ 1% for every hr of standby)

15% battery remaining after 24 hrs i.e. low battery warning.

i disabled the use wireless network option under locations and always on mobile data

and get much better battery life, also i use wifi constantly when available (which is 90% of the time), it is much better for battery life than using 3g or gprs/edge.

pretty amazing battery life IMO i am very happy.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Athrun88:
So i have cycled my Mugen 1800mA battery acouple times. on average, i'm able to get about 27hrs of heavy use. Here are some settings as a baseline:

Always on Data

Wifi always on

Auto brightness

1GHz clock speed

massive amounts of text use

massive amounts of screen on time

will report back in afew days time after some more cycles.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steveojp:
I remember when I had an iPhone I was able to hold the top power button and the home bottom at the same time and it would take like a snap shot screen shot type deal of my current screen can an evo do that? Maybe an app I need in order to do that?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k2buckley:
Yup, either drocap2, or Shootme. There are probably more, but those are the two main ones. I use drocap2, and it works great.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bweisholtz:
it's also worth noting that you need to be rooted to use any of the screenshot apps in the market.

word is that 2.4 will most likely have it built in.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dougjamal:
I had a Droid Incredible before getting an EVO 4G and I was able to use the Shoot Me app to take a screenshot of my homescreen "before" I was rooted.

Posting & replying via the XDA Premium app
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Well you still need to be rooted, well at least now to use it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmegalodon:
Yeah, was the same way with the Evo. At one point you could without root, then something changed by way of app update or something. Almost want to say I remember a OTA breaking ShootMe on one of my Evo's. Either way, as said, shootme and dropcap2 are your best bets. Provided you have root access. :D

sent from my
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dougjamal:
I figured it had changed. Anyway, thank you and teh roxxorz for your reply. Enjoy the rest of your weekend...;)

Posting & replying via the XDA Premium app
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
No problem, and to you as well. :)

And its always a sad weekend without my evo. :( I feel naked without it.
[Vibrant General] snorkle:
So im flashing the phone and when i go to install package it start installing but it got stuck on formatting data, any ideas?
[Vibrant General] ferhanmm:
Make sure you hold the phone upside down while you flash. There is a gyroscope lock that must be deactivated first.
[Vibrant General] snorkle:
seriously? lol
[Vibrant General] nomadrider123:
redo it rerun odin. you can use the toolbox located in the dev section.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=954509

with the other guy remember its april 1st
[Nook Color General] Caspar07:
I have been reading about "Fixing permissions" and I can see that ROM Manager on my Nook (running Phiremod v5.2 with CM7) has that function.

But what exactly does "Fixing permissions" mean?

When do I need to do that?

And what are the consequences?

Hope anyone can explain it to me - or guide me to a "ROM Manager/Fixing Permissions for Dummies" :D
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions
[Nook Color General] sollord:
Fixing Permissions does exactly what it says really. It fixes the file system access permission to the correct settings if for some reason they aren't set right which seems to happen from time to time. As far as I know there are no issues or consequences to running the script outside of wasting a few minutes while it runs since it's basically restoring things back to how they should of been.
[Nook Color General] Caspar07:
Thanks for the reference and the answer.

Regarding the Nook, what interests me is why this is necessary from time to time. But maybe I shouldn't think about it too much ;)
[Nook Color General] deadbot1:
Caspar...as you add new apps or change ROMS, the filesystem permissions often get changed. sometimes they get changed to values that are detrimental(like a file getting set to read only when it needs to be writable). That's why the need for fixing the permissions.

If you don't do this, you sometimes end up with a scenario where an app expects to be able to write some information and can't. This generates an error, which if the app isn't able to handle it, crashes the app.

A well written app will have thought of this already, but most times developers just expect the proper permissions and don't add in error handling code, saving themselves work and the program some size.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 96shox:
Hi, so before I root and rom my new G Tablet, I've just been playing around with it. I did the update and have been exploring the features.

I came across a "root options" menu in the ES file explorer menu.

When I clicked on it, it game me the option to load Cyanogen or Hiapk.

I thought these were custom roms, how does my new stock g-tablet have this? Does this mean someone root/romed this before?:eek:
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TATDC:
I just got my tablet and did the OTA too but I do not have that folder in ES.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magqccom:
This has nothing to do with installing custom roms. Its simply asking you to allow for root access (which you need to have already by having rooted your device beforehand).
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 96shox:
Thanks, ok maybe my terminology is wrong, but esentially I want to know if a fresh-out-of-the-box G Tablet should have a Cyanogen option in the directories listed in the 1st post?
[Folio 100 General] sader0:
Hello,

Being fan of the quiet computing....recently noticed a strange sound while chargin my foilo....

after some research deceided to check the psu main unit and discovered that it makes unpleasant shhhh sound while plugged in....

anybody have same ? or is it mine started cracking up ?

thanks
[General Questions and Answers] dufwppl:
Following this advice my Rom Manager v3.01.3 shows still the version 2.5.0.7 cwm. I do not know why. The installation process would appear that the update was successful. Is it possible to synchronize information between the current version of cwm a rom manager?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Themes and Apps] Finalforce1111:
As all of you already know, there is a huge battery drainage on WP7 HD2 devices.

In windows mobile 6.5 there was a possibility to choose the display brightness between 10-100%.

Here you have only low-medium-hight, as result that LOW is too low and medium is too high :D.

Do anyone of you know such an app or is anyone willing to create an app to do it same as wm 6.5 and maybe post in in the windows phone marketplace?

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Themes and Apps] Finalforce1111:
Comeon guys is it so difficult to make an app for more display light settings?

It would be useful for everyone and saving a lot of battery
[Xoom Themes and Apps] IndivisibleP:
I am thinking probably not but still thought I would ask...

Presumably VLC will when/if it turns up on the market, but until then any ideas?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] slifer315:
mvideoplayer

Sent from a phone, playing a phone, disguised as another phone.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] IndivisibleP:
Awesome thanks!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] mercurycc:
Actually Moboplayer is better.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] kamasi36:
Mod Edit: No piracy in here, please.