yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mbh87:
lol for whatever reason it definitely got warmer then usual for a bit but now all is good.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] swimminsurfer256:
Sorry if this is a noob question but I've looked for it and can't find it.. what's the difference between smartass and interactiveX?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mbh87:
Look back a few pages, he explained it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] asenduk:
v1.11 + new radio update = WIN

left phone all day @ 1.92/.245 using interactiveX with ZERO issues

and battery life is GREAT

did everything i could think of to try lock it up :)

thank you sir!

currently running BAMF 1.5
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Added this to the first post:

GOVERNORS

First, my take on the governors that are out there: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13020648&postcount=617

I offer three governors: interactiveX, ondemandX, and smartass. What are they?

interactiveX - it's the interactive governor from CM, but I added suspend/wake logic so when the phone screen is off it runs at 246Mhz. Also, I modified its code some more to minimize unnecessary cpu spikes above 1.8Ghz if you happen to be running one of my 1.92 kernels. Most tbolts are unstable above 1.8Ghz, and it's the quick jump above 1.8Ghz that usually locks up the phone. It will hit 1.92Ghz only when it makes sense (ie. sustained high load).

ondemandX - ondemand governor code from latest linux source *plus* the suspend/wake logic described above, except it has the ability to ramp to 369Mhz while screen is off. No additional code was added for stabilizing above 1.8Ghz.

smartass - smartass code from erasmux, but I wasn't happy with its performance so I tuned it for quicker ramp up in speed. It has the same suspend/wake logic as ondemandX, and the same >1.8Ghz stabilizing mod as interactiveX.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
V1.11 1.92X interactiveX 1.92/245 been stable all day after the one reboot in the morning. Battery life has been quite good as well.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Powell730:
Are these compatible with the newest radio release and bamf 1.5?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
Yes they are
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Powell730:
Thanks again haha! You're helping me all over the forums :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] azbryan3:
I tried 1.11 but I would lose 4G/wifi/all data. I went back to .92 and all is well again!

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[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
Had another reboot playing homerun 3d with V1.11 1.92x :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Azbryan and jlevy,

I'll get you another build in a bit.

sent from my phone running leanKernel + Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Would you mind trying this one jlevy73?

azbryan, which flavor are you on, extreme?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
Thanks, will do.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] johnh123:
So which of the three above is best on battery life?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mbh87:
I would say smartass from my experience.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Imo, they're all about the same on my kernel.

sent from my phone running leanKernel + Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tdog7879:
any results from testing this kernel? I have been running bamf kernels since rooted but I looking to try something new ..

Sent from my ADR6400L
[Thunderbolt Android Development] azbryan3:
I use the normal.

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[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
Got a reboot after playing homerun 3d for 10 minutes. That's unusual for me as in past kernels I could play that game for hours set @ 1.92 :(

So in the meantime just backed it down to 1.76 and all is good
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Ok that tells me that it's not the extra undervolting below 1024Mhz which is good news. The problem is that the VDD for 1.92 hasn't changed. Do me a favor and set both max and min to 1.92 and play the game again?

thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tdog7879:
im not looking to overclock so which one would you recommend and what governor?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
Hmm interestingly enough I flashed your tweaks. Zip on bamf and my phone wasn't stable at 1.7ghz. I disabled it and now it's fine.

Edit: hmmm, actually in think it's overheating issues. I think bamf has a tweak for charging. It only seems to happen when I'm using my phone while it's charging.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
I would read the six version descriptions and pick one that sounds the best, same with the governors. In your case if start with normal on interactive x.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tdog7879:
thanks...they all sound good but without testing all of them I was looking to get some feedback on the most stable/battery life...but I will start with what you recommended.

Thanks again

Sent from my ADR6400L
[Thunderbolt Android Development] andrew53517:
Just downloaded kernel number 3. Number 4 wouldn't boot lol. My phone doesn't like the voltages. This one at 1.59 works well. Hopefully battery life is solid too... Going to start with interactiveX :)

Thunderbolt Rooted!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
You should try battsaver if your phone can handle it, and for governors the smartass and interactive give similar battery life due to Imoseyon tweaks, id use either of those.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lilpeezy23:
On the interactivex and ondemandx governors I'm getting reboots occasionally while the phone is sleeping only oc'ed at 1.59. Haven't actually had any reboots while the phone is awake even when clocked higher. On smartass these reboots aren't happening
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
You're probably having issues with undervolting. Try 1.92?

sent from my phone running leanKernel + Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] andrew53517:
I like this kernel so far. Just curious, why do you like it "lean?" What is the benefit to that over others that aren't?

Thunderbolt Rooted!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lilpeezy23:
Yeah that's what I figured and actually have been trying that out. I will report back. Oh also forgot to say I'm running 1.11 1.92X
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tdog7879:
Thank-you very sir!

Sent from my ADR6400L
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lilpeezy23:
that seemed to have fixed it
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
Try it now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
Just played for about 20 mins @ 1.92/1.92 and it worked fine.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mbohde:
Thanks for a great kernel. I started with your lame v.5 (phone couldn't handle extreme) and was very impressed with the huge leap in battery life. I currently run the Liquid v1.0 rom with normal v1.11 (245-1408 interactive) and see about 18hrs battery life. Compare this to the 5hrs I would get stock/rooted is fantastic.

I do have one question for you, what would have changed between version .5 to .92 that was again changed before 1.11? I tried the normal .92 version, battery life went to hell and performance dropped. Whatever it was you have definitely solved the problem since.

Looking forward to your future kernels.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] chingy51o:
im testing out 1.1 battsaver right now with my rom and wow. im only down three percent in over an hour with about 30 min of awake time. not shabby.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] THATTON:
Flashed the newest extreme on Fryetech's Gingerbread clone ( which is definitely not a rip off of Tesla Coil) and it flies and has incredible battery life! Been of the charger for 6 hours with moderate use and still sitting at 91%!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
In theory, smaller kernel = faster. Not always the case in practice. But smaller kernel is almost definitely not slower than larger kernels. :) Extra features will also take up a small amount of memory after the kernel loads.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
so the plot thickens! I will have another build for you in a few hours (after work). Thanks for testing!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] asenduk:
still rockin v1.11 1.92X @ 1.92/.245 using interactiveX

more than a day and still no issues

but i need/want something new to flash

yes i have an addiction & cant go on day without flashing something

;/
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
Look forward to it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
Just an update, I'm still using .9 normal, but switched to BAMF 1.5 w/ new radio. I'm still getting much better battery life than I previously reported. I figured out when I'm home if I set my phone down 5 feet away from me (closer to my router) my battery doesn't get destroyed. Kind of weird, but for the battery I've been getting I'll keep doing it. I've been flashing things left and right and have had to do a lot of reboots so haven't tested for a full day, but I remember on Monday I checked my stats and I was at 10 hours up and was sitting at 92%. Pretty sick, IMO.

I'm at work now, but have downloaded 1.11 extreme (determined to get this to work on my TB) normal and battery saver. I'm going to try them all out tonight and see which feels the most responsive. Then I'll test it all day tomorrow.

Huge thanks to Imoseyon for not only making these killer kernels, but also for being as devoted and supportive as he is. Thank you, sir!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] justinc101011:
What kind of mv do you guys get I haven't got lower than 3950 (1.11) whereas with 1.0 I have 3650 a lot
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Droid_ALM2ND:
WOOOOW!!!!! My battery has been at 100% waaaaaaay to long lol :eek:

Im on #5. Chingy recommend it for his Rom and the battery life is just crazy good.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] frodsteamin2:
On battery saving kernel and after 3 hours I'm sitting at 80%. Great for how often I'm on phone. That's on constant 4G, auto syncing every 30 minutes facebook, email, twitter, htc sense, weather plus another bunch of widgets. Not to mention all the behind the scene crap. Biggest plus is how cool the phone stays. Nice work!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Richpopski123:
I find this funny because I went back and flashed the 2.05 for kicks yesterday. Still could only run it for about 3 min before it froze... :rolleyes:

Donation sent imoseyon. Thanks a ton dude. Keep that goodness rolling!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Richpopski123:
Can we start a vote for a name change to "The Minimalist kernel."

I just think of it everytime I read the thread name and it's been bugging me...:)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Excuse my ignorance. What's "mv"?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
hehe i've never been good with names...

FYI - quick update for everyone. Been trying to get 2.6.35 working fully on the tbolt the past couple of days - gonna keep going at it for the next few days I think.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] asenduk:
woohooo!!!!

lots of browsing (4G) and music playing

v1.11 1.92X @ 1.92/.245 - interactiveX
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Bxsteez:
I just had to say it. This is AMAZING!!

I've been pretty quiet in these android forums since I'm accustom to winmo and I've developed a few ROMs on that side but I have to stand up and say WOW to this kernel. Neither of the 1.92GHz kernels work on my device so I can't speak for those but the 1.41GHz normal has produced pretty amazing battery life. I have had quite a few lag issues with most of the other kernels which usually happened after a call or when i dropped below 50% but I have had absolutely no issues with this kernel. It has been snappy and performed excellently.....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bokechukwu1:
Have you had any random reboots with this kernel I can't get it to work on my phone for some reason :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Which flavor are you running?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Hyperdoggy:
Is the links down? because i can't seem to d/l any of the versions.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tformed:
They are down for me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] grokdesigns:
Links here are down, but I was able to install from Kernel Manager.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] asenduk:
New version coming maybe?

2.2GHz LoL
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Ugh looks like CloudApp is down. What a POS. Let's give them some time to bring themselves back up. If they're not up in 30min, I'll move the files to elsewhere. Sorry about that guys.

EDIT: ALT links are up.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lilpeezy23:
Can anyone explain why I get better battery at 1.92 vs 1.41 on 1.1.1 1.92X. Not complaining by any means just bizarre
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Extreme 1.41 should be better in battery life than 1.92X. The "normal" 1.41, however, could be worse than 1.92X based on your usage pattern.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lilpeezy23:
just to update on my sleep reboot issue I did the radio downgrade that was just posted and thus far I'm actually no longer experiencing the sleep reboots that I was with the newer radio. I'll have to see over more time but it looks like that may have been the issue
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerogold:
Is the (Alt) version the new 1.92x. ?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Nah they're the same v1.11. CloudApp was crapping out so I set up some mirrors. Hmm maybe i should have called them mirrors hahah.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerogold:
OK , cool dude, anxious to try new 1.92
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
The next version may be a while. :( I'm trying to move to a whole new kernel base (2.6.35), which has never been done before for the tbolt. If I manage to succeed I'll need to get it tested thoroughly before I release.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
count me in!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Forgetfull:
me too. 10char
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerogold:
Gladly, count me in
[Thunderbolt Android Development] cmo220:
You know I'm always interested in testing stuff
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Alright I memorized all your names.

sent from my phone running leanKernel + Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tdog7879:
So I installed the battery saver kernel and it seems laggy I'm running it with smartass ...does any recommend which governor?

Sent from my ADR6400L
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
hmmmm... just for kicks try again after rebooting? It's possible you got something else stuck eating up cpu cycles. Otherwise, i'd recommend trying interactiveX.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hyatari:
Try clearing cache in clockwork then reflash the kernel.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] frodsteamin2:
I have been running battery saver with interactiveX and get no lag. I agree with you on the smartass lag tho happened to me also when testing out.

Sidenote, testing today on 3g and no autosync just to see how awesome this kernel is and after 4 hours of phone being on and some regular usage (calls, texts, emails, facebook) im only at 80% which by my standards is the best I have seen on any kernel. Hope that helps.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tdog7879:
After reboot I'm getting better results using smartass but still a little laggy. Interactive x seems to work the best.no lag....thanks for the advice.

Sent from my ADR6400L
[Thunderbolt Android Development] b33zy682:
can anyone post the battsaver kernel 1.10? 1.11 seems laggy to me and i didnt nandroid....MY MISTAKE!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mbohde:
How can we put in to be testers for your new kernel? I know of myself and one other that would be happy to test new kernels. His phone is capable of running the extreme undervolted and I can run the normal undervolted.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Hmm the only difference between 1.11 and 1.10 is the smartass governor. Can you try another governor to see if 1.11 is still laggy for you?

mbohde, you're in!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] b33zy682:
Tried another governor earlier and same difference. Plus 1.10 was way better on my battery. Running prefect storm 1.4. A link to the old kernel would be great!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
that makes no sense to me. huh. here it is anyway: http://cl.ly/66nt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] b33zy682:
thats the same kernel already posted. it shows as 1.11. i need 1.10.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
That's 1.1 (the latest is 1.11). Maybe you meant 1.0?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] b33zy682:
yea the one before the latest. maybe i did mean 1.0 sorry. its the latest version that didnt have ondemandx. just regular ondemand
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Ah that makes a lot more sense. Here you go: http://cl.ly/63rj

Let me know if that works better. There might be something about your phone that doesn't like one of the changes between 1.0 and 1.1.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
I was not successful in getting radio and hardware accelerator to work on 2.6.35. Feels like I wasted a good 3-4 days on that. Sigh. I'm going to shift focus and try to backport a lot of the code from 2.6.35 instead. Should have another release out this weekend, or if i feel it's unstable I will have it out to the beta testers first.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] asenduk:
Looking forward to it, thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
Hey man its all good! We appreciate everything you do for us :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tdog7879:
I just installed extreme kernel and it was laggy at stock speed..I was getting benchmarks in the 1400 (3test) with interactivex so I bumped it up to 1222 and now its smoking fast I did 3 more test and now I'm getting 2100 ...this seems like a keeper!

Also your kernels are the only kernels that have cool temps!

Sent from my ADR6400L
[Thunderbolt Android Development] frodsteamin2:
+80ish on these kernels being the "coolest"

pun intended
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerogold:
With extreme I'm at 2400+ and 1.92x at 2800+ .quadrant
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Chris Hansen:
Always willing to test kernels or anything else you need broken (more into battery saving than crazy speeds), just let me know!

Thanks for all your hard work!

Thrown by Zeus himself
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dr wits:
hey there... i posted this on the tesla rom page but i'd like to have your thoughts on this too... thanks a bunch

day 2 on tbolt (coming from moto droid)

i find it strange that under manage apps or in system panel... it says all of my apps are running in the background... apps i have not opened. i don't remember this happening on my motodroid...

here is a little snippet from setcpu

Battery
Battery Temp: 34.7° C (94.4° F)
Battery Level: 26%

CPU
Frequency: 1222400 kHz
Load Average: 6.46 6.45 7.55 2/874 7663
Processor	: ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l)
BogoMIPS	: 813.62
Features	: swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp thumbee neon
CPU implementer	: 0x51
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant	: 0x1
CPU part	: 0x00f
CPU revision	: 1

Hardware	: mecha
Revision	: 0003
Serial	: 0000000000000000

Time in State
245760 349682
368640 4482
768000 8488
1024000 14071
1222400 62114
1408000 992

Memory
MemTotal: 612128 kB
MemFree: 8480 kB
Buffers: 37868 kB
Cached: 213060 kB
SwapCached: 144 kB
Active: 270480 kB
Inactive: 267728 kB

this is when i'm actively using launcher pro, tasker and a couple other small things... i'm wondering why these apps in the bg are taking up all the memory.

and i'm wondering if this is causing my poor battery life

today i got from 11-4pm - 1hr with heavy usage on the train... the rest was very minor usage. using tesla 1.7 + 1.41 extreme lean kernel (interactiveX gov)

thoughts?

p.s. tesla is filthy... loving it!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Forgetfull:
imoseyon-

On v1.11 what do you think the most battery efficient gov is? I know devs can code the interactive/smartass to be more or less efficient. I'm probably a moderate user. Good about of web, some Pandora, and games.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Hi there, lots of info. let's see..

First i see you rarely hit 1.41Ghz. Did you limit the top speed at 1.2 using setcpu?

Second, your memory usage is fine. Android will use most of its free memory as cache and will give it to apps as necessary.

Third, 4G on the train? That's battery drain city! Weak->strong->weak->strong and repeat that cycle for the signal strength.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Honestly the way i modded the three governers I think power efficiency is probably about the same. If you're using pandora with the screen turned off I'd say interactiveX will be most efficient.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dr wits:
i figured the memory was fine... just don't remember seeing it like that on the moto...

i had it at 1.41 when the batter was goin down quickly... when i took the info from setcpu i had brought it down a slot.

i'm gonna give it another go tomorrow... i will monitor it very closely and report back

would it help people for me to give a report/screenshots for the day from system panel? this would include detailed app usage...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ANDROID 3G:
Dumb question of the day: How do you set the kernels to interactive, smart ass etc? If it's using SETCPU, how exactly do you do it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dr wits:
Select in that scaling dropdown
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ANDROID 3G:
Thanks good sir!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] SilverVenom:
Been torture testing this kernel since v0.4 and I've had a fantastic power user daily driver experience running your "1.41GHz Extreme" series kernels with the hybrid "InteractiveX" governor. So far they've been the best real-world daily use kernels in just about every test I could throw at the phone providing an excellent power/performance ratio.

Recently however I've been experimenting with your "1.92GHz Extreme" kernels and using SetCPU to lower the frequency to various thresholds as per dacre's findings about diminishing returns (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1023932) and then using the configuration as per normal over the course of 12-24 hours, using qualitative and quantitative measures to benchmark the p/p ratio. Alas I'm only on day two of this and then I though I might ask if I may fork your code to a private repo and make some fine grained adjustments to the cpu clock bins and governors so that I could squeeze in just a little more performance?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Absolutely. I'd appreciate if you can report back with your findings. I think I spent a good two days doing that and it's really really time consuming. I could have used another 3-4 days at least to get the best results. For instance I think my 1024Mhz slot can use some more fine tuning. Thanks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DarwynZ:
I know the "safe" version states that its not updated often... any chance there will be an update in the near future to go along with some of the changes made in the new Radio/RUU? Ive been using "safe" and have had the best results... but you have updated some of the other ones, so I may cycle through them again and see if any of the changes you have made make my phone as stable as it is with your "safe" version.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] SilverVenom:
I'll be sure to let you know once I get enough data to draw a conclusion. I'm also mulling over a couple low level ideas that could let us nearly shut the processor down without impacting wake screen performance but it'll probably take 2 weeks before I have a proof of concept. I've been itching to update a few of the libraries but I know it's a long and lonely path once you commit to a project like that haha.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Veridor:
As I understand, only ROMs need to be re-cooked to take advantage of the new RUU. The kernel itself works independently of the radio, IIRC. As far as updating the safe build with his other tweaks, that's something Imoseyon will need to answer. Personally I've found 1.11 battsaver more stable than 1.11 extreme (1.41 GHz). Shame really as I loved the performance boost on extreme.