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[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsbbq:
Hello, I just got a Thunderbolt through my work and I noticed the screen tends to wash out at angles. I had this same problem with my T-Mobile HTC Glacier or MT4G. It turned out to be 2 different vendors Sharp and Sony displays being used in this model. Once I got the good display it was a noticeable difference in the quality of the better display vs the bad one. Direct viewing from straight on is ok just as it was on the HTC Glacier. So I just wonder if anyone might have a good one and could post some pics to show.

Here is my original thread for the HTC Glacier with the Screen issues. There are some pictures and videos to compare the differences. I'm seeing some washing out at angles, especially around the clock digits where this problem is easily seen.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=863679

Here are some pictures of mine with the Sharp screen. The noticeable areas are the clock widget black areas where they flip.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zshazz:
I'd say it's possible. I'm sure they have more than one place that manufactures the devices. There's been some variability in the build quality of the devices, so it's not too far fetched.

I don't have a camera other than my phone to take pictures, though. It looks like a really good display to me and doesn't "wash out"
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moemoney12:
You're right there are two displays. I went to the store last week to compare my phone with the display. Because I used to have the mytouch 4g and it took three tries to get one with a nice display. So I was surprise, when I saw the display model and colors were not as vibrant as mine. Man did I get Lucky, first try and it's a winner.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spimonkey34:
This is interesting. I ran a "dmesg |grep panel" and it returned sharp. I wonder if anyone would get Sony.

Mine is noticeably worse than my MT4G that had the good screen.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boingboingbilly:
If you ask me, there is no doubt that there are two panels for this device. My first TBolt (which had several problems) had a really bad screen and I complained about it in another thread like this one. I had it exchanged and the new one is VERY much better. The first one was not crisp, colors were bad, looked blown out next to my DInc OLED. The replacement is crisp and the colors are beautiful.

I didn't get a chance to compare side-by-side, but everyone who had seen my first one, even my wife who is pretty oblivious about these things, would say that the new one is dramatically better.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsbbq:
Thanks, could some of you with good screens do a dmesg in terminal and report if you have a sharp or Sony panel. Make sure you restart then immediately run the terminal and dmesg command. Mine is a sharp so I'm thinking it is the bad display. Also if you can post some pictures of the screen from the side at extreme angles.

I will try to take some pictures of mine and post them tomorrow.

Before some of you start stating your opinions about looking at the screen at angles, yes there are situations where you are viewing at angles. Also it has been proven at least in the MT4G with the bad sharp display that the colors are not as vivid as with the sony screen even when looking straight on.

Mine is made in Taiwan. If you have a good one post where it was made please.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_drache:
Mine returned Sharp.. and the screen is much better than my OG droid and my wife's fasicnate. I can read this post at ~160ish degrees, sooo.. no idea
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsbbq:
Reading this board may not be enough to tell. I will be interested to see if anyone has a Sony screen to compare.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_drache:
The point is, everything I do on this phone can be done at that angle, in relation to using the screen. Colors do not change, only the brightness, as to be expected from a gloss screen (and gloss screen protector).

I personally think that shows a quality screen.

Definitely not something to worry about.

FYI : I have my dpi set to 200 if that matters
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsbbq:
Here are some more pictures which stand out more with green colors. You can really tell the difference as you tilt to angles and the deep green contrast is lost and it is hard to define the icons. The middle picture is taken from straight on and you can see the difference. I think on the Good Sony displays there will be no difference when looking from angles. I really suspect that the same display problems are following from HTC and the MT4G.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Forgetfull:
Is there any way to tell my looking at the hardware number what screen we have?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsbbq:
No I doubt it, we could never tell with the MT4G. The only one thing that seemed to hold true in the beginning was the ones made in China had a higher percentage of the good screens and more of the ones made in Taiwan had the more of the bad ones.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chadstone30:
i have a sharp panel as well. i'm no connoisseur apparently because i think my screen looks just as good as my old incredible.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bigandrewgold:
I have one made in taiwan and it is essentially flawless, only thing wrong with it is 2 very tiny dots of light leak which can only be seen in pitch black
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Forgetfull:
Odd, mine is made in Taiwan, are all bolts produced there now?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bill.allrobots.org:
dmesg says sharp panel, but I have no complaints about viewing angle or contrast after quite a bit of fiddling with it and trying to find something to whine about.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moemoney12:
I have a sharp panel and it's better than the display model at my local store. I used to own a mytouch 4g, it took three tries to get a good display. And the good display was made in china. My TB is made in Taiwan.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wakestrong:
This would explain why some claim to have gorilla glass style display that can't be scratched and others are getting scratches from car keys.

My first phone the digitizer went out after a drop out of the car (no glass broken or cosmetic issues just said touch panel- fail) and the second phone has light leakage not just at the bottom but at the corners too. There is a gap at the right corner for whatever to get into my phone.

I want to know if there is a different 'nicer' panel. It seems quite a few people are popping up with broken digitizers...
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bscythe:
The phone I have is a Sharp lq043y1dx04

How do I know? Because I busted mine open to try and fix my broken digitizer. You can see pics and read the story in my post "Anyone want to see the inside of a thunderbolt?"

Still no replacements out there :-(
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lizard32:
Digitizer or LCD

I have not taken this phone apart. But I did replace the digitizer on the HTC INC. The Digitizer is separate from the LCD in that phone. Does anyone know if the Digitizer is separate in the Thunderbolt? If so, it does not matter who the manufacturer of the LCD is.

I to agree with this thread that the digitizer on the Thunderrbolt is very easily scratched especially compared to the HTC INC.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bscythe:
The digitizer and the LCD are separate, though the way that they are assembled makes the digitizer difficult to replace without damage to the LCD.

The digitizers ribbon cable is routed between the back of the LCD and the LCD tray that the LCD is double-sided taped to. So to replace the digitizer you must remove the LCD from the tray without damaging the LCD. Very tricky with the amount of tape they use to hold the two pieces together.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shelooga:
i ran the command in terminal and got pages worth or text. within it i saw sharp_panel.

i havent noticed any issues with the screen other than its not as bright as my dx. but it seems like theres more color to the tb than x
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ilogik:
Mine has a Sharp panel also but I am very happy with the colors, and my last phone was a Fascinate...
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theyownus:
dmesg reports a sharp on mine as well, i too came from a SGS (vibrant) while the TB screen is not as ... um ... vibrant it is still nice and much better than a buddies EVO which i was worried about. no complaints from me. The SGS seemed to over saturate and while sometime that can be visually appealing i think the TB colors/screen (except for true blacks) is more true to life. dont miss the SGS one bit!
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrew C:
Well I ran dmesg in terminal and only found panel=9. I'm not having screen issues, as a matter of fact I have gotten a lot of complements on my screen brightness / vibrancy of colors.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firedude12:
There are DEFINATELY two different screens, I just read this and we have four tb's here so we got them on the same screen and max brightness and one stuck out like a sore thumb. the blacks are MUCH darker and more clear and the white is a heck of a lot cleaner on that one also.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JBO1018:
Mine shows Sharp when I run dmesg. There is no color washout from any angles and I can still read the screen from some pretty extreme angles.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsbbq:
Great thanks, could you run the dmesg command from a terminal emulator to see if it has a Sharp panel? Also if you could take some comparison pictures and post them as well.

I know everyone thinks that their TB is good and the display is great. But if this comes to be true you won't believe the difference until you see it for your own eyes.

While the TB is not as bad as the MT4G was and it will meet most peoples requirements to be happy it's not a deal breaker even the way they are. I just want to know if there are 2 different displays floating around like what happened on the MT4G.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoxRacR17:
Dmesg says my panel is a sharp, I think it's alright, doesn't look as good as the display at bestbuy but it might be because of my Zagg screen protector, I put it on right out of the box without even turning my TB on to see what the screen looks like naked :) my skinomi protector just came in so ill take this Zagg off and see how the screen looks naked
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsbbq:
Well if anyone can confirm a Sony panel please let us know. Also anyone with pictures please post.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
i can't get dmesg to show anything about my screen. grep says access denied, not rooted. any help?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoxRacR17:
Open terminal emulator, type "su" then superuser should pop up and tell it to always allow, then type in "dmesg | grep panel" exactly like that and it will tell you what panel your phone has.

Also I took off that Zagg shield and put on my skinomi and it made a world of difference, my phone looks great and the colors are wonderful, maybe there aren't even any sony panels because I haven't seen one person say dmesg returned sony as their panel
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
that won't work because im not rooted :(
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoxRacR17:
That would be your problem ;) lol
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsbbq:
I will try again tomorrow and let you know what exactly I typed and try to get a screen shot. I'm not rooted either and I found it so I'm sure you can too.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bullhead00:
Ran the command in terminal. Mine has the sharp panel.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrew C:
I also have a Sharp panel.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magneticzero:
So far...everyone has a sharp panel, i wonder if there really is any other types out there... Certain apps you can see where the quality is lacking such as tower raiders 2....you can def see the pixels. Maybe the screen resolution should of been bumped up some instead of stretching to fit 4.3"
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] th3_g00b:
i have a sharp panel as well and when i hold it up to the same angles u have in ur pictures, it doesnt look like that. still looks clean and crisp. maybe there are different type of sharp panels that were used....it is a trend for the lcd companies to run out of a certain stock and start using another type >.>
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HorsexD:
Ran Terminal. I Also Have Sharp. hmm....
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mi7chy:
Nit-picking over viewing angle on a mobile device that you can easily pan and tilt in your hand? This is not like a living room where you're restricted from moving the large screen TV or furniture. These silly threads just cause mob mentality and needlessly inundate a carrier's support and RMA process driving up the cost of phones.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DRGilroy:
I too have a Sharp panel and am quite happy with it. I think people should just be happy with what they have. If I were to complain about the screen, I would be complaining about the power consumption. I keep my brightness setting on low (35% brightness), unless I can't see it in the sun to help conserve power. Other than that I have no complaints.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
some people use the kickstand and watch youtube videos and other media with their friends, one of the intended uses of the device by design. that makes the viewing angle and screen quality valid issues.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bigandrewgold:
but even then the viewing angle problem is only at insane angles that you wouldn't be looking at anyway
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnchad14:
anyone have differing ones to show some side by side type pics for comparison?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] monkey1911:
I have the Sharp display as well.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m00nshake:
For the Mytouch 4G, the difference between the panel 1 and 2 displays were night and day, but with the Thunderbolt, the difference I'm seeing is not that substantial. I see that the colors wash out slightly when the phone is tilted to extreme angles, no different than the EVO or the dinc with newer displays. Considering its only noticeable at extreme angles that no one ever tilts there phone to during normal use, it's nothing to worry about, let's move along.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbracht:
Is there a flash over for stock 2.2 that will give you the look of gingerbread.. as in all the icons up top looking like you are running gingerbread? Hope this makes sense
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sonic Design:
check this out

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=809985

and then go down to "Optional Downloads:" and you will see about 4 different gingerbread styles for what you're looking for (at least i think its what you're looking for) lol hope this helps. and yes they do work with a stock ROM i have tried them, there is one though for the weather/ notifications bar that is terrible so read what ones are what.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbracht:
Thank you very much. This is what I am looking for
[A7 Accessories] The SofaKing:
It is a Targus Leather Portfolio case. It fits pretty well i can get to the ports and such, plus it folds out to a stand. It is a very nice, well made case and I got it for 29.99. Targus makes really good stuff.. I really happy with it. see the pics..

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff415/TheeSofaKing/IMAG0062.jpg

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff415/TheeSofaKing/IMAG0063.jpg

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff415/TheeSofaKing/IMAG0064.jpg

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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defmute:
I have a nexus one that was refurb from google. it came back to me with a SLCD screen. Everything is stock and I want to root/unlock (basically what ever I need to do so that I can put cyanogen mod 7Rc4 on it).

RECAP:

-Nexus one (refurb from google)

-SLCD screen (anything I need to keep in mind since I have this? I remember reading something that said people were getting black screens. I am assuming this isn't an issue anymore, is it?)

-Bootloaded is not unlocked

-not rooted

-no back up yet

Pretty much stock everything 2.3.3 (gingerbread).

GOAL:

-Run cyangenmod

DONE SO FAR:

-Got adb working on my system

-Read a bunch of wiki's and so forth

PLAN OF ACTION:

-Root following this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1019759

-Download titanium and make a back of everything (this is the correct/suggested program to do this?)

-unlock (fastboot oem unlock)

-Flash a custom recovery image using steps mentioned here and fastboot: http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nexus_One/Recovery_Images

-Follow rest of directions here: http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nexus_One/Guides_&_Tutorials#Flashing_custom_ROM

-Profit with new image and never look back

QUESTIONS:

-Is there anything I need to be aware of (such as special instructions for having an SLCD screen?)

-Full NAND backup? Is this something supported by titanium or what form of black magic do I need to do this?

Other than that I think I am pretty ready to do this and am very excited. just want to make sure I don't screw something up as this is my only phone.

Hopefully I have done most of my homework and everything will go well, just looking for confirmation from some individuals that are pretty knowledgable (calling Danger-Rat to thread)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
When you unlock the bootloader, all the data is wiped. Nothing left to back up. So Titanium won't help you.

Full NAND backup is a part of custom recovery, called "nandroid". Again, it'll happen only after you unlock the bootloader, effectively wiping all your data. So it'll back up the stock ROM, but not your data.

There is no way around the wipe.

SLCD doesn't matter.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Can I ask if you have the ATT nexus one with the slcd screen? I'm thinking about how to switch mine.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defmute:
It is the glorious t mobile version.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Ok thanks. My understanding is recent ROMs and kernels have been fixed for slcd version, you just need hboot 35 at minimum. But check around I could be wrong.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defmute:
After reading a bit more it looks like I will have to unlock the bootloader FIRST, then root. Correct?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danger-rat:
Not necessarily...

You can try rolling back to a previous version of android, which will then allow you to root with an exploit based method (without unlocking the bootloader).
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suhailtheboss:
i used to have an AMOLED tmo N1, when i sent it to HTC for repairs they sent me back a SLCD version

i treated it exactly the same in my root/flashing process. didnt realize there was a difference other than just the screen.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defmute:
Did you have any problems?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defmute:
Everything went well. Only 2 issues:

-Had trouble flashing clockwork recovery. Once I checked the box to erase recovery before flashing everything was fixed.

-Google apps. Need to install those and didn't know about it.

Thanks for your help people.
[Android] Hypercore:
Hey guys, I've never cooked a ROM before but I want to give it a try. Now someone on the Desire HD forums used a Desire S 2.3 ROM and ported it for the DHD.

I want to do the same thing, but I have a whole new plan on what to add to the ROM. I just need to know how I can get the Desire S ROM to work on the DHD like he did.

Are they cross-flashable? Meaning can I just flash the Desire S ROM onto the DHD and it will work normally?

If not, could someone please explain to me how I would port this ROM over so that I can use it with the DHD?

In case you need to know, the ROM I plan on using is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1002506

I don't know which one I'm going to chose yet, but I can figure that out later once I learn how to port it over to the DHD.

Thank you guys in advanced.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bala_gamer:
Hi to all,

Im having some problem regarding picture quality, The pictures that are taken indoor seems to be ok, but out door images always having reddish tone, it is annoying, ill post a sample image here below, is there any solution for it?

Image 1 Original

Image 2(Tone modded in photoshop)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sgsI9003:
Whats the white balance settings are you using?

What scene settings are you using?

These 2 settings determine the outcome of the color tone.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bala_gamer:
White balance is set to auto and scene settings is set to none.

A request for all i9003 users, can you test the same with your cameras in daylight and post pictures here?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sgsI9003:
1st reduce the size & dimensions of your images posted in this thread 600pixel is more than sufficient to see the color cast, its a pain to download that amount of data on 2g plans.

if these are the settings then instead of auto try daylight & see if that corrects the color cast or not, if not then you are having a real bug as I don't have such problems.

What firmware are you using?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bala_gamer:
Ill reduce the size mate :)

Im using the stock DDKB2 firmware. What about yours? CAn you post a smaple picture taken in your camera in daylight?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sgsI9003:
I have attached 2 images which are shot on auto white balance they both look good in color.

Here is the Exif info from the images

I have Kb1 that's what I got the phone shipped to me,

I have not been able to update via kies.

Reset all the camera options & then try shooting some subject with something white in it so test if it still gives you a color cast, if it does then YES there is a problem.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bala_gamer:
Your images are looking good dude, well if there is a problem is that related to hardware or software, whats your opinion
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sgsI9003:
Problem could be anywhere, need to get this test done by some other users who have Kb2 on there phone.

I also notice that there is a FW version for the camera (2nd line in exif info)

mine is Firmware: fw 05.15 prm 08.56

I still request you to reset all the camera defaults & then shoot a test image & post the results. Then we ask some other user to do the same only then we will be able to conclude if its hardware or software related issue.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bala_gamer:
I just reset the camera and took some pictures, ill post it back soon
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bala_gamer:
May i know where i can find the camera firmware?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bala_gamer:
I googled for that software and got it
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sgsI9003:
Nowhere only samsung would have it, but 1st post the images & let me check the exif info of your images, that will tell us a bit more.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sgsI9003:
Which software, are you talking about the camera firmware?

Dont do anything as yet with the camera fw.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bala_gamer:
I was talking about this software dude,

https://market.android.com/details?id=since2006.apps.exifdroid

Shows the info about the picture taken
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bala_gamer:
This is the image taken after resetting the camera