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[Thunderbolt General] konjiki7:
Smartass is still kinda broke from what i can tell. I found luck using undervolted kernels specifically the 1.2ghz kernel from DAS BAMF and Adrynalyne's kernel too
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
gingerbread seems to have very good power improvements. idle power when phone is asleep seem to be extrremenly low, around 3mA. this is very good and will help you guys when you get GB.
[Thunderbolt General] Blacksheep427:
possibly a parallel...

One year age, I bought the HD2 on T-Mobile. Guess what? Poor battery life, etc. Then the update came through and battery life was BETTER. Today, I now am with Verizon and the Thunderbolt. Battery life could be better. And Android 2.3 will be released soon to the Thunderbolt. Will that help battery life. Hope so. But if not, I can get a spare/bigger battery. Admitted, we have no 4G in my home area, so I do not know what impact that has, but my battery life seems like it is improving just because of the charge/discharge cycling that happens normally. And yes, I'm also aware that both are HTC devices but running different OS's, but an update is just that, an update. :cool:
[Thunderbolt General] thelaw.com:
I think that it's sad that HTC put in such a low capacity battery and I don't think software optimizations will cure a poor hardware decision. A true OEM 1600 or 1700 mAh battery will make some improvement which seems doable. My Droid 1 had significantly better battery life. If you use 4G as I do, it drains the battery quickly. I use my TB like a Blackberry for email, checking one account every 10 minutes which is far less than Blackberry. Still, using 4G for this, music for my 30 minute commute in both directions and a few other things puts me at below 50% battery life by the work day afternoon. I don't know why HTC put in such a small battery and I'm guessing it has some connection with why they had so many extended batteries to sell on launch day. I have one. Makes the phone noticeably larger, not as bad as I thought although unnecessary... but the phone does last a long time and no worry about battery life.
[Thunderbolt General] IISiDeK1CKII:
Android 2.3 is supposed to come to us in Q2, so in the next 2 months. It will more than likely have sense, so it will therefor still drain battery.

My girlfriend pulled 36 hours yesterday on her TB, completely stock. She stayed at a relative's house who didn't have a micro usb cable, so she couldn't charge it. I am pulling a consistent 22-24 hours. IDK what you guys are doing with your phones, but stop it.

I think a big issue with many people's battery life is this is their first smartphone, or first android device. You are going to use it much more than you need to... lol
[Thunderbolt General] 4dfl4:
Wow 36 hours that's unreal I can pull up to 16 hours Max
[Thunderbolt General] spigatelli:
Are you in a 4G area? I think the 4g is what really eats us alive.
[Thunderbolt General] IISiDeK1CKII:
It is, we live 60 miles from the nearest tower, so if we go 30 minutes into the city, we get 4g.

But in 3G, we have great battery life.
[Thunderbolt General] Cg006:
Even listening to mp3s with the screen off takes alot of power for this phone. Mind you i have a profile to set it at 245mhz max while the screen is off. I started to leave it 3g at all times. Battery seems better. But over all this phone just a power hog.:D
[Thunderbolt General] bmcclure937:
If your battery is lasting that long then you are not using your device enough. What the hell is the point of a smartphone if you just leave it in your pocket/sitting on your desk because you are too scared to drain the battery?!

Anyone who has owned a smartphone will admit that the Thunderbolt does not have the best battery... but as long as I can get through the day I am happy. I am able to survive off of my charger for anywhere between 12 and 20 hours depending on usage. This is also in a 3G-only area.

The majority of problems are caused by 4G, which naturally drains the battery. Once Gingerbread drops we will see improvements. Custom kernels will also help a great deal.

For the record, this is not my first smartphone or Android device. I like to use my device and am happy I live in a 3G-only area for now... because if I lived in 4G I would most definitely have to charge my device mid-day. Once my area gets 4G (near the end of the year) most of the kinks should be worked out! :D
[Thunderbolt General] Blacksheep427:
If BlackBerry and the HD2 were smartphone, I've had some of those in the past. Androids, no, first one. The HD2 got between 4-6 hours between charges when I first got it. The update it received changed that to an average of 10 hours of medium to heavy use. I know, it had a bigger battery, too. For those that do not like batteries, I want to sell you a solar powered flashlight. :)
[Thunderbolt General] Blacksheep427:
I suppose that is similar to my experience last year with my HD2 on T-Mo. After a few months, the battery was much better. Coincided with the time for its updated ROM.
[Thunderbolt General] IISiDeK1CKII:
I've only had it for 2 weeks. I've been working full time (I work at a restaurant, no cellies) and in school full time (art major), so I haven't had time to sit around and play with my phone. My girlfriend got it because she was upgrade eligible and is easily swayed by sales reps.

So no, it hasn't been power used. But, what the hell makes you phone czar. I will use my phone however the hell I want to. My average battery life is closer to 20 hours now, but, It has topped off near 28. It happens, somedays I don't use my phone at all. I have a smartphone because it's convenient.

Happy now? geez...
[Thunderbolt General] dirtyfingers:
If you are using the smartass kernel then there is no need for any profiles such as "screen off", it will just conflict with the kernel.
[Thunderbolt General] Cg006:
thanks for the tip! didn't know that. Im a droid noob...lol
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
Lol, but to be fair, you did just say that you get a crazy amount of battery life. But with doing that you must also say how little you use your phone. People here are so butthurt over battery life, if someone else has better battery life, its like you are doing something wrong.
[Thunderbolt General] trebb:
You're the one that's saying that those of us not getting the greatest battery life haven't had a smartphone before... that's a retarded claim, especially since your great battery life is due to the fact that you don't actually use your phone.

3 days for a Blackberry..? I don't think I got that, even with the original Curve.
[Thunderbolt General] iflip:
I'm getting better battery life than I ever had on my rooted Eris and incredible. And I'm not rooted yet. I keep 4g off unless Im using youtube, vevo or websites heavy on flash. Not sure if opera makes big difference but its super fast. I got free version of juice defender with balance profile enabled so when the phone sleeps data is disabled. I go all day on a charge with light multimedia usage. I'm pretty satisfied with the current ruu that I'm not so much in a hurry to root. But as soon as I get my replacement in the mail, I'm gonna make sure the hardware works properly and then root. I'm only interested in custom kernels at this point. No need for major improvements here. Custom kernel combined with juice defender should serve me well.
[Thunderbolt General] Blacksheep427:
http://www.twitter.com/g00s3y "trizzle21	No the the gingerbread update will not make battery better

No The Gingerbread update will not make your battery better, the only thing thats gonna improve your battery is to get an iPhone 4 and stop buying crappy phone with crappy battery."

Thanks, but no thanks, iPhone drone. I am quite happy with the ThunderBolt. So I will not be buying an iPhone. You love it, you get it, maybe you already got it then good for you. You are allowed to have a choice, but so am I. Mine is to not buy the iBlame, uh iLawsuit, uh iPatent, oh yeah iPhone.
[Thunderbolt General] Cg006:
had an iphone 3g, Iphone 4.... was bored with IOS...
[Thunderbolt General] lippstuh:
anecdote: me and my buddy both had the OG droid, I put gingerbread on both and it definitely increased battery life. we weren't expecting it but it happened. we both had spare batteries and we both found ourselves not using them anymore. both were rooted, overclocked 1ghz and underclocked with screen off. we didn't do anything else to save battery.
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
i'm not sure how much the battery life will improve. the nexus one on stock froyo sees about 5-10mA of idle current draw. and on gingerbread its still seeing the same, i hover right at 6mA during the night for 8 hours. but since th ethunderbolt has this problem of high current anyway (30-40mA idle), maybe the GB update could bring it down to regular phone power draw like other devices already have.

of course other things may be tweaked, like the sync profile gets more efficient, etc.
[Thunderbolt General] wardo5757:
lol.... ur a douche.....
[Thunderbolt General] lgprins:
Enlighten us, Tell us why exactly you are reading this forum. I started reading this post then gave up. Can't type full sentences, no capitalization. One big long post on how great the iPhone is. Geez. Oh and you might want to check your spelling, misspelled words make you look stupid. Wait, now I know why you like the iPhone....
[Thunderbolt General] jasoninator:
You're a prime example of why Apple keeps things simple and gives their consumers much easier choices. Good for you. Now if only one of your 350,000 apps were an English tutor.

Trolls keep trollin...

On topic, I doubt Gingerbread will battery life much, but it should bring some improvements style-wise and with the speed of the OS.
[Thunderbolt General] ddarvish:
hardly my first android device. htc g1 > OG droid > Fascinate > thunderbolt

i get **** battery life. the fascinate had the best battery life out of all the phones. i live in a 4g area and it is not a fringe area with 4g all around me no matter which way i go for at least 10 miles.
[Thunderbolt General] mexiken:
Buy yourself a book on grammar while you're at it, troll.
[Thunderbolt General] ddarvish:
also these arugments that 4G is supposed to drain battery more is Bull****. 4G uses a more efficient method for transmitting the same amount of data in a smaller space of spectrum and uses OFDM in a part of the spectrum that requires less power and should have better building penetration (700mhz) compared to 3G... i dont know why the **** the LTE engineers suck at writing radio code
[Thunderbolt General] hairlessrien:
hahaha Got em coach.
[Thunderbolt General] pegasixi:
Apple's latest product: the iDrone. Fully equipped with the latest in trolling technology, the iDrone flaunts its ignorance on other phones' forums to make itself feel better about paying more for something that does less!

Not to say that Apple is stupid... They have managed to make an entire industry out of duping people into buying shiny objects. Kudos to them. Wish I'd thought of it sooner.
[Thunderbolt General] swamp2:
Not sure why folks are so sure 2.3 will not offer some battery life improvement (obviously through improved software based power management). Improved power management is highlighted as one of the top 3 new 2.3 features. Have a look here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html . From my tests with the current draw while sleeping there appears to be significant room for improvement. I can't get much below 30 mA. Some folks on other Android phones have got to less than 10 mA. Sure there are hardware limitations but this next gen Snapdragon in our Bolts is supposed to have much better idle consumption than previous generation chip sets.

Maybe I'm just being a foolish optimist...
[Thunderbolt General] Blacksheep427:
iDrones iPhones

+1

My thoughts exactly. Apple has good products, but so do the other companies. I do believe the iDrones far outnumber other manufacturer's drones though.

As for iDrone's point of Apple / iPhone being copied all the time; if our ThunderBolt is a copy, and is crappy, doesn't that make iPhone crappy original and ThunderBolt crappy copy? ( I like mine still, do not worry :p ) Oh, and Steve Jobs helped himself to copying Xerox's GUI some years ago. Hmm, I'm just sayin'.

I think Gingerbread may help with battery life. :cool:
[Thunderbolt General] Zalyia38:
LMAO! That was really great!
[Thunderbolt General] LittleLebowski23:
It does hurt to be slammed by an illiterate teenager....
[Thunderbolt General] Blacksheep427:
iDrone iClone iPhone i-i-i-i-i's have it :P

Laugh of Day:

​

Breaking News Alert: Pentagon chief: Obama approves use of iDrones

(headline modified slightly to make more funny)

...even the Prez-I-Spent/President is against us! :eek:

Reality check:
​

I am thinking there are only a few, original ideas in any consumer market field, per product, that is. Be it a phone, a car, house, etc., there are only a few set choices to make that product. The consumer makes that design good for business or bad by their purchase decision. My example is the car, besides design specifics, the basic car concept is many years old, and was designed by a handful of auto designers and manufacturers. The portions that were successful were kept. The basic concept is there, then the individual manufacturers puts their flavor of car out to differentiate their product from the others. Cell phone manufacturers are the same, in concept anyway. Here's your basic phone design, put your own twist to it and sell it. A cell phone must consist of a power source, a cell radio as a transceiver, display of some sort, a keyboard and buttons to input data, a battery charger, a mic and speaker, an antenna, and a storage chip. Every manufacturer tweaks those basics to their take on what makes a good cell phone. iDrone likes Apple's design. I, for one, like HTC and the ThunderBolt's design. Are either of us wrong for using the power of choice? No, the products are out there for us to choose which we will buy. But, remember, if you make fun of another person's choice, others will, in turn, make fun of you and your choice.

Back on topic
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Sorry for the off-topic rant. I still fall into the camp which believes Gingerbread will help the ThunderBolt. It is not yet determined, that I am aware of, whether the upgraded OS does in fact address our battery issue. It may only change the look and feel of the device, but in my opinion, it has the potential to have better battery management. I based my opinion on what happened with my HD2 last year. I do not know how it will change my current phone. Remember, this is my opinion. And my opinion may change when my phone actually has been updated to GB. Fair enough? :cool:
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
Because we already have phones out there with 2.3 and the current draw is identical. On 2.2 the nexus one gets 6 mA idle, and on 2.3 it gets 6 mA idle.
[Thunderbolt General] ThunderStick:
Cg006 - Change your damn profile picture that things creepin' me out..:eek:
[Thunderbolt General] Blacksheep427:
Carppy iPhone

quote from trizzle21 "you choose to go with a carppy".

Now, we're being accused of having fish phones! :rolleyes:

Get spell check, iDrone.
[Thunderbolt General] Southern_mind:
From what I hear it helps to improve on everything from battery to performance.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masterkan8:
i rooted with S1C and not able to unroot with the same program so i went to aroot to unroot and seems to still be rooted. any susgestions? ty for your time
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yokozuna82:
Flash a sbf ....back to stock
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masterkan8:
yea i did that and spent 3 hours why adb wasnt showing my device then magically it suddenly worked lol
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -Roze-:
I want to unroot aroot and root using a supported root method. I have froze stock apps I don't use. So to be safe, I should unfreeze all of these apps and then run the unroot in aroot?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sinful Animosity:
aRoot is an unsupported tool now. Extremely old. I suggest you use Gingerbreak for root.
[Atrix 4G General] janggu:
Hello everyone,

Got a Bell Atrix 4G, unlocked it and I am using on Rogers network. So far, it is working well.

I am having a problem setting Notification Light. I tried the built in notification light under Settings and a few different notification light apps from market. I used to get a green light for email before but I don't get it anymore after playing with other free apps. I just can't figure this out. I put my phone on vibration mode at work so I would love to have notification lights working.

What I need is different lights for Missed calls, Email, SMS. Has anyone dealt with this issue?

Any help will be much appreciated and thank you!
[Atrix 4G General] rustyhooks:
I use the app light flow for that. Gives me total control over the LED. I have different colors flash for different notifications.
[Atrix 4G General] groaner:
I use Light Flow https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rageconsulting.android.lightflow

and it handles a ton of apps and uses a TON of color combinations.

Worth the $1.
[Atrix 4G General] jackdonogy:
haha, i was going to start this topic today. I use blue for my Trillian notifications, Purple for yahoo mails.

will try the light app suggested above.

Thanks!
[Atrix 4G General] janggu:
Thank you guys! Yes, "Light Flow" makes it work. Please ensure you turn on "Setting > Display > Notification LED".
[Atrix 4G General] marcusah123:
Light Flow does not work correctly on the ATRIX AT ALL. I had low battery warnings going off when the battery was fully charged, no charge LED ON option, no charging LED, only discharging WTF?
[HTC Inspire 4G] BillTheCat:
I need a little help understanding how the 'Chuck Norris Mode' works with TiBu. I'm running RCMix 5.6 but would like to remove a couple things that are in the ROM like Quick Office, since I own a copy of Docs To Go.

Using the utility seems simple enough, but part two of the question is if it is possible to incorporate a different program in the ROM to replace one that has been deleted. For example, I'd like to replace QuickOffice with DTG, replace RS explorer with Astro (again, I have a licensed copy) and so on.

Obviously the intent is to free up as much RAM as possible by eliminating the ROM programs I don't use with the ones that are taking up space on the machine that could be used for runtime.

Wondering if it's possible to do this, and if so, can anyone can walk me through it?
[HTC Inspire 4G] bdaman80:
I would like to know about this as well
[Android Software Development] Urool:
Hey guys,

I am trying some android developement for some weeks now but made a pause, of let's say 2 weeks, now I wanted to start again and tried to launch the simple "HelloWord" App with the android emulator. Didn't work. Then i copied some new source code from a professional android journal into eclipse and tried it again. Again, the emulator starts but doesn't install the app / start it. The weird thing is, there is no error message.

1[2011-03-30 17:31:14 - PushMe] Android Launch!
2[2011-03-30 17:31:14 - PushMe] adb is running normally.
3[2011-03-30 17:31:14 - PushMe] Performing de.visionera.pushme.StartActivity activity launch
4[2011-03-30 17:31:14 - PushMe] Automatic Target Mode: launching new emulator with compatible AVD 'AVD202'
5[2011-03-30 17:31:14 - PushMe] Launching a new emulator with Virtual Device 'AVD202'

This is everything. I tried installing the Android SDK a second time (with patching and all the stuff, but didn't help.

edit: a thing i forgot: I googled the problem for some time and they said It got solved by "reset adb" in the DDMS view, but this didn't actually help me, i just got following error message:

[2011-03-31 15:30:27 - DeviceMonitor]Adb connection Error:Eine vorhandene Verbindung wurde vom Remotehost geschlossen
[2011-03-31 15:30:28 - DeviceMonitor]Connection attempts: 1

the "Eine vorhandene Verbindung wurde vom Remotehost geschlossen" means: "An existing connection has been closed by the remotehost"

it appears again..
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] ProjektFuze:
I own a TMobile hTC HD7 and I have been waiting patiently for a "Restart/Soft Reset" Application to hit the Marketplace. I am actually quite surprised that not more people are interested in a simple app like that. There are countless times when my phone will start acting up or not loading applications properly, so I am constantly restarting my phone. A soft reset app would be a great addition to my phone app collection. This is more of a request as opposed to a rant. While I'm not as talented as some of the developers here, but I am quite sure that a simple restart application wouldn't be insanely hard to develop. Is there anyone out there that is willing to help me out? Or anyone else who thinks this would be a good idea? Or am I alone in this? Lol
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] matrixcs:
yeah Me too.. I agree with you.. I hope someone will make a restart software or a task manager software...
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] ProjektFuze:
Well its nice to know that I wasn't the only one who would like to see a Soft Reset Application with the Windows Phone 7 theme and feel as the UI. I hope someone amazing comes across this thread and makes this a reality.

Sent from Projekt hTC HD7
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] emigrating:
Does it actually need a UI? Wouldn't a tile pinned to start do just fine? I mean, what would be included in the UI apart from a "reboot" button?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] ProjektFuze:
Well i guess it wouldn't need some crazy elaborate UI.... Just an icon nice enough to put on my home page.

Sent from Projekt hTC HD7
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] ProjektFuze:
Has a skilled developer heard my plea? And is willing to develop this totally useful application?

Sent from Projekt hTC HD7
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] noelito:
i am with you on this one, we need soft reset!

yes lets make the developers aware!
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] PieOfJustice:
+1 on this.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] emigrating:
I personally don't see a need for such an app but I'll knock something together over the weekend. So basically just an icon you place on your home screen that, when pressed, reboots your phone? right?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] ProjektFuze:
Yes something along those lines.... Obviously something that kinda fits the whole Windows Phone 7 Metro Theme... But the reason why I thought a UI would be necessary... Would be a Settings page... To have the icon that is placed on the homeacreen able to do different functions that each user could specify on their own. But definitely a way to simply Restart the phone...

Sent from Projekt hTC HD7
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] ProjektFuze:
And yea man.. Thanks a lot for attempting this.... Like I have stated before... I am not a developer myself otherwise I would've made something like this a while ago... But I am quite sure that this wouldn't be an insanely difficult task.... But regardless your efforts are well appreciated... Looking forward to seeing this evolve.

Sent from Projekt hTC HD7
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] emigrating:
Well, that just confused me again :)

Either you want a tile which will reboot your phone (for which I personally see no use - as it's easy enough to just press the power button for 2 seconds) or you want ... err, well ... something completely different :)

In any case, I've written an app that will do just this - clicking it will ask you if you want to reboot or shutdown the device. No bells or whistles - this is all it does. Will have to tidy up the code a bit, but I'll get it attached here later tonight or tomorrow.

You'd be surprised ;)

There are no APIs available for this so I've had to write native code to get it working - which means it will never be available in the marketplace and will only run on developer-unlocked devices.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] JonnieLasVegas:
Yes, this will be a handy tool. Another added feature I've missed on WP7. This & a screen capture app are all I'm really missing, app-wise that is.