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[Atrix 4G General] mattyv:
So i would like to install a 7" LCD monitor in my car that would take the VGA feed from the Atrix in the HD dock to be able to display things like the GPS functions, MP3 player, etc.

With the 7" LCD's on the market that have touch screen capability (through USB) i was wondering if this could be possible. The touchscreens usually require a driver to operate and i am not sure if there is a way to get the driver to work on the atrix where the USb port from the touchscreen would plug into the back of the HD dock.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
VGA input on your screen won't wor - the atrix uses HDMI and you will need to convert between the two to get a signal out (VGA is analog, HDMI is digital).

Unless someone writes drivers for a USB touchscreen, as well as getting HDMI mirroring to work in the horizontal position (currently the hack only works for normal vertical orientation), then you're pretty much out of luck.
[Atrix 4G General] acsterf:
Using the Motorola Atrix as a CarPC brain is something I'm looking for! I have a Lilliput 669GL-70NP/C/T 7" with HDMI video-in, the touchscreen works over USB and it has a Linux driver. Shouldn't be possible to implemente it in Webtop?
[Atrix 4G General] trogdan:
As far as I understand, the driver would have to be precompiled for ARM, or the source code to the driver would have to be available, short of reverse-engineering it.
[Atrix 4G General] acsterf:
Yes, this concept is trivial, the questions are if it can be done, the amount of work necessary and if someone is willing to do it.

I personally have very few knowledge in Linux, limited to some terminal commands in switches and other devices, which is far distant to compiling something to another processor architecture!
[Atrix 4G General] JaronBang:
I've been interested in doing this same thing in my car. You know there's an alternative on ebay but theyre expensive sitting at a litter over $700 and I only see them available on ebay. Its basically a double din dock that functions with or without the included docking device. The device is just a tablet that I believe stock is running froyo & it has capable specs, with 64 or 128 gigbabytes max memory, 1ghz, 512mb ram, I think its a nice size too, a little smaller than most tablets. I'll try and find a reference or link on ebay.

& has video inputs, etc.

&link: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=280692692905
[Atrix 4G General] Rajinn:
I'm wanting to do the same thing using an HDMI connection, not sure if I can use the Atrix or have to build a car PC and connect the Atrix to it though
[Atrix 4G General] mattyv:
For all those interested

I have posted an offering for someone to see if they can bring this solution together using the Lilliput Linux drivers. If they can get it to work i have offered to pay. If it does indeed work, i will be happy to share with all of you and defray the cost to me, and or provide more $ to the develper that succeeds.
[Atrix 4G General] slowjett:
I will pitch in 3 or 5btc for this bounty.
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
Would it be possible to use the current webtop hacks to change the webtop to ubuntu and get a touchscreen to work with it? Just brainstorming. Dunno if it's even possible or not
[Atrix 4G General] Rajinn:
it's a sound thought pattern, however that is not the issue.

the touchscreen usb drivers are designed to run on the i386 architecture, where our phone runs on the ARM architecture.

aka our greek phones dont understand english

I'd translate it myself if I had the source code to the i386 driver and some learning material XD

depending on the filesize of the i386 binary, it would be possible to reverse engineer, however extremely time consuming (probably looking at months)
[Atrix 4G General] millab:
I too would be very interested in this!

The other option I was thinking about was to buy a 7 inch tablet and mount it behind the bezel in the dash.

In the car I am planning to play with, I would keep the stock Bluetooth-enabled head unit, and just sink it back into the dash some more with either a tablet or a touch-screen monitor sitting in between the head unit and the bezel so it looks good.

The good thing about doing it this way is that the stock head unit has steering wheel controls which will remote-control a Bluetooth stereo device, and also means no need for an additional amplifier.

I.E if I pair my Atrix phone to the head unit by bluetooth, I can play music and use the skip prev/next buttons on the steering wheel to control the Atrix.

So ideally I would dock my Atrix in the car and bring it up on the touch-screen monitor, be able to control through the external touch screen too.

Otherwise I would have a tablet permanently mounted in-dash, connected with Bluetooth to the head unit. Once again could control using the steering wheel.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rbbadzz:
Is one rom preferable to another to make android run faster on the fuze?

Or should you just make sure certain settings are turned off or adjusted?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
I appoint you to find that out! :D

Seriously though, I don't favor any ROM over the other. I have tried stock and custom and find no differences in the stability arena.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rbbadzz:
On the settings then has anyone experienced better battery life or better anything by turning off or adjusting anything on win6.5? Like if you installed a gamer version of xp it could help games to run better because certain settings and such are turned off or modified. I guess I don't really understand how much of win6.5 is running in the background and if it makes any difference.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
That's just it, this isn't a mod nor an app, it's a full fledged OS. So, 0% of winmo runs when you run haret.exe. It's like when you boot into ubuntu (assuming you've done so) from a liveCD and not a VM/virtual machine.

Additionally, there are some settings that CAN be applied before you run haret, that affect Androids' performance because it shares some of those settings. In some cases it may be considered a work around but keep in mind, XDAndroid was never intended to be run

ALL

of the time.
[Vibrant General] wfagan59:
First off, I love T-mobile, had them since the Shadow came out, and moved up to the G1 when it was launched. They have the best customer service and most reasonable, and most clearly stated rates and bills. My employer recently offered to provide me with a smartphone from verizon, so my wife and I left T-mobile and our vibrants.

She hated her vibrant since day one, so I was always trying to defend the sammy phone and tweak/flash hers to make her happy. We settled on the most recent TW rom and continued battling the annoyances that comes with owning a vibrant. The phone has some great things going for it. It's very thin, and light (some call this "cheap" feeling, I love it personally). It has an awesome screen and will play a wider range of media formats than anything I've ever ran across. However, the lag, various different "lag fixes", random force closes, dropped data and voice signal, freezing and even random shutdowns were difficult to deal with.

I now have a Thunderbolt. It's big, heavy and thick. I don't have 4g in my area, so that's no gain, but it works. It works great, right out of the box. Then with a little effort (the rooting method is pretty lengthy) it screams. It has made me realize how much I was rationalizing my satisfaction with the vibrant.

On paper, the Vibrant should be better in my situation/location. Better GPU, smaller form factor, better screen (I still think 4" is the perfect size for a phone. 4.3" is pretty large in your front pocket), but truth is, it isn't. My advice is to sell it while you still can, and move on to something else. I have no personal experience with the G2, or MT4G, but they're both HTC phones, with plenty of support. My guess is they would do the same for you as my thunderbolt has for me.

Just to clarify, I have the upmost respect, and appreciation for the devs and contributors here. I appreciate their efforts, and do not intend to belittle any products they released or efforts they have made. My opinion, the Vibrant was crippled from the start, and they've done an outstanding job enhancing it. Thank you.
[Vibrant General] VICosPhi:
I feel you, if it wasn't superamoled i'd have sold mine already, I'll get a G2x maybe. Unbelievable how Samsung is not acknowledging hardware issue with gps
[Vibrant General] Settai:
While I agree that the phone has its problems, neither I nor anyone else I know with a SGS variant (vibrant, fascinate, etc.) has THAT many issues. I waited about a month to flash this phone and while I was on stock the only problem I had that you mentioned was lag. After I rooted it got better but I never truly got a lag free experience until bionix 1.3.1. I'm guess you sold your vibrant before TW came out with that ROM, but in all seriousness it handles better than my cousin's Evo with CM7 on it.

The latest MIUI ROM is also quick as lightning to which I found very surprising considering its a.) a port and b.) non AOSP

I will admit though that Samsung has created an enigma with this phone. On paper this phone is easily the best single core smartphone on the market yet, on stock, it is much slower than the likes of older HTC phones. So for awhile I regretted not waiting for the MT4G, but the recent ROMs and kernels have really stepped this phone up to the next level.
[Vibrant General] helikido:
bionix v1.3.1 is very laggy. that is the reason i switched to trigger. trigger was much ,ore stable and consistant. edt has greate roms personally.:D

no lag, nothing......
[Vibrant General] Longcat14:
If you still had your Vibrant, you would see how fast these new ROM's are.

I've used CM7 for a while, and considering that it's still buggy, it's AMAZINGLY fast. Only problem is, I need a stable ROM, and that's where Trigger 2.8.1 came in. I though it was horrible, but I installed it last night, and it's nothing but amazing. I can't wait to flash 2.9, it's supposed to be faster.
[Vibrant General] ipnekgs:
Bionix 1.3.1 is not laggy on my phone. Thanks to that rom I really love my vibrant now. People that have the same phone with stock software are left with their mouth open after I show them what their phones is cappable of doing.
[Vibrant General] Oniyuri:
I've loved my vibrant ever since I had gotten it. I may have stayed on stock for all of 3 hrs (literally) before I flashed my first ROM (Nero) and I've never looked back. I've never experienced lag and my gps (assisted, ofc) was always on point. I don't know if it had to do with my manufacturing date (10/10) or what but my phone has never given me issues (that I didn't cause it to give me and even then, those were easy to fix).

My husband got a good look at how fast and glitch free my phone on a ROM was running. After a few months of random reboots, complete crashes & a host of other problems running stock decided to give up and joined me in flashing a Bionix ROM and he's never looked back either. I will admit that his gps was a bit wonky too but that also changed when he installed Bionix. Now it does see birds but locks on just a little slower than my gps does which really isn't a biggie anyhow.
[Vibrant General] abrown0809:
It really sucks that we have to put custom roms on our phones for them to really be powerful. I love my vibrant, but the constant problems it was giving would have made me sold it if it wasn't for Team Whiskey and other developers. I have Bionix 1.3.1 and Ive done the hardware GPS fix and now my vibrant is running the way it should have when I first opened the box. This wouldn't be so bad if Samsung would just support their devices a little more.
[Vibrant General] mr.orange303:
Im ready to move on. I have had a good time with my vibrant.

My wife has had a so so but she loves it.

Still we both have decided to leave tmobile as well and are excited to see the many options coming in may to june. When we plan to switch carriers.

I like sprint. Im not sure if verizon compares in price.

If it does I love the nfl and that may entice me to verizon.

I dont want the thunderbolt.

Im just waiting for the dual core nvidia phones.

I like the galaxy s2 and with the nfl...whew.

Im really going to look at the cost of the s2 on verizon lte. Im really intrested in that combo as well.

Still ive had alot of good times with my galaxy s.

But the signal has been completely unreliable since day one.

As where my was always very solid.

I dont know what I'll do with my galaxy s.

I have some kids who love media players.

I wonder what it would take to make a rom that would allow me to disable calling and let them just use it for that.
[Vibrant General] splat matt:
Over the span of 8 months I started with the Vibrant then sold it for the myTouch 4G only to selling it and buy the HD2 at bargin. But, in the end I sold the HD2 and found a Vibrant on craigslist for cheap.

I really liked the myTouch 4G it is fast and very functional, but the screen size was just too small. Plus there was a batch of myTouch 4G units that had washed out screens; I was fortunate to end up with a good screen. The HD2 is the most versatile being that you can run so many roms from a variety of OS's on it including a very stable gingerbread 2.3.3 running from the NAND. Plus the 4.3" screen is great for browsing. I would still have the HD2 today if it wasn't for the At&T buyout of t-mobile. I fetched such a great price on my HD2 and found a vibrant for sale for $200; I jumped on it. Why? The vibrant will work next year on at&t's network so I won't be forced into contract with at&t by needing to buy a new phone to work with their networks. I don't like at&t (nasty customer service & dropped calls) and I really hope the buyout is blocked.

Which leaves me with no clear choice of carrier. Verizon has expensive plans and lots of unexpected costs. Sprint is trying hard to be CDMA version of t-mobile and have my interest, but will they be able to survive with at&t and verizon? Currently, I am no longer under contact so having the vibrant will provide me some time before deciding to commit to a carrier while testing the waters with merger.

So if my thoughts resonate with you maybe holding on to the vibrant won't be such a loss.
[Vibrant General] wfagan59:
I agree that every phone will have a few lemons. However, with my wife, we had 2, which we both had replaced with new ones. I kept my wife's on what I thought was the most stable roms (mostly TW, Eugenes, Master's and toward the end trigger) while I flashed mine almost daily. Still they both exibited the same flaws, reguardless on what rom they were on. I always wanted to try CM7, but I have to use my phone's GPS for work (construction, so I'm always traveling) so that and MIUI was out for me. If you like your vibrant, then I'm happy for you, it's got great potential. But if you were like me, and TRYING to like it, my advice is to sell it and move on. You'll be very happy you did.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
The Vibrant is an interesting device (or rather, the Galaxy S series).

The Hardware is good. As a phone, they are perfect: GREAT reception/signal strength, and great sound in the earpiece/speakerphone.

For media they are good. The screen is nice and the speaker on the Vibrant is superior to any other phone I've ever owned.

However, the GPS and Software Performance/Stability issues just make it not worth it. Flashing a phone every day? Sorry, you are too patient.

The battery life also leaves much to be desired, and swings a bit too wildly.

The Lack of an LED Notification Light also became an issue (something the HD2/HD7 has), as well as the lack of a Camera Flash since I found the Vibrant not worth using to take pictures in some areas without great lighting (rinks, etc.). I also found it's 720p video recording produced grainy videos (which looked like watercolor paintings a bit on larger screens).

As a secondary device it's perfect, though. I just had to brush it aside and get something else to use as my daily driver.

After using a 4.3" screen so much, 4" just seems so small. I can hardly type on the Vibrant because I'm used to the better WP7 keyboard and larger screen size. Browsing is noticeably easier and the Vibrant's browser tends to lag on a lot of pages, anyways so that was a good change. A 4.3" phone is hardly much bigger than a Vibrant.

If you can barely fit a Vibrant into your pocket, then either you're severely obese or wear skinny jeans.
[Vibrant General] intruda119:
My next phone will be a sgs2. Currently im bored out of my mind so I just picked up a dell streak. Uusally when I flash a new rom it works nice for the first 2 weeks but as I add my usually apps it eventually becomes laggy. Trigger rom has givin me great battery life. After work im between 50-60% now(8-5) before with bionix I barely could make it home before dying. But my god has the lag become very noticeable. Im currently using the default launcher pro with only pure widget calender, dolphings bookmark manager, and extended power control on the homescreens.

Ive been flashing roms since Winmo and I find it fun. Going to a hd7 for a short period of time showed me how good an os can be. I love android but these manufacturers are killing the os. I dont know to the extent when I heard google is putting some locks on the OS, I said good for them. As much as people dont like HTC Sense, its the only launcher thats implemented well.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
I love my vibrant. why even make these kind of negative threads, just move on and stop bringing down the forum....

I had a hd2, hated it... But didn't go there and dog it...
[Vibrant General] down8:
I think of these threads as eulogizing, rather than *****ing: the Vibrant, how great it could've been - shame it ended up the way it did (i.e. a poorly executed & supported product)....

-bZj

XDAapp
[Vibrant General] muathib:
After rooting and running Bionix 1.3.1 and Overstock 2.2.1 kernel, my battery life has gone through the roof, I haven't noticed any lag, and it runs better than ever. I do still have slight issues with GPS (it locks but then after a few navigation instructions she forgets where I am and starts giving me different directions) I couldn't be happier with the phone. I guess YMMV depending on what you use the phone for. I'm sorry for the people that have had poor experiences with this device because the SAMoled is just stunning.
[Vibrant General] oka1:
Wow, so many whines........... to date this phone has been one of the best units I ve seen. Only the GPS issue is a real complaint on the hardware side, which is totally fixable.

On the software side TMO and Samsung fail, but then that's why there is XDA. Since the Frankin Twiz rom in Sept 10 there has been a great performing, stable rom. And, Since Nov there has not been battery life issues,

People are being way too myopic about this. It is a great stable unit, and unless you have to have the latest great because of your addiction to it, then accept the consequences for that addiction.

ME ? I am waiting for the S2 and until then, this phone still rocks !
[Vibrant General] mr.orange303:
why contrubute to such a thread if you disapprove of it?

just wondering.
[Vibrant General] cashyftw:
Ehh same here, I get bored easily, and the lag does become quite noticeable at times, switched to miui, and loved it for about a week, then got bored again.. currently attempting to trade my Vibrant for an hd2+100 on craigs ;] I'll surely miss it though!
[Vibrant General] richiehd:
Bionix was mentioned as being laggy. I've been running it for a week with no lag. Its been one of (if not the best) roms I've ever used.
[Vibrant General] wfagan59:
Dont mean to bring down the vibrant forums with my post. If my lowly post can do that, then it was already doomed (which I do not think is the case). My intention is to provide some feedback to anyone thinking of switching to something else, that's all. Maybe I rely on my phone too heavily to root/flash it as often as I do. That being the case, its only been a week, but my tbolt has been rock-solid so far.
[Vibrant General] Excelsius:
Still hangin on - Advice?

Ok, so I read through the posts here and wanted some advice. The last time I was on these forums was last year, around summer when I first got my Vibrant and rooted it. I haven't kept up with the latest info and the sticky does not provide a quick update.

The question is this: for those of us still hanging on to their Vibrants, especially the very first models that came out, what is the recommended update procedure? I am currently running 2.1, rooted. What updates should I do? Would you basically recommend that I do that regular T-mobile upgrade to 2.2 and then do a ODIN root again?

By the way, it is easy to prove that the GPS on Vibrant doesn't work. We just got Galaxy S 4G for my gf and side by side comparisons show that her phone's GPS locks within seconds yet mine takes minutes...
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
I think a lot of these ROMs tend to feel great at first, and then as you start using them, accumulating data/apps, etc. they tend to bog down just like a stock vibrant (though in many cases, a bit less so).

Since I use mine as a secondary device now I don't have that many complaints anymore (since I can just throw it in the back seat and use something else, anyways). But, I do think the browser is as close to worthless as it can get. It lags to badly on some sites (especially in comment sections) that just trying to scroll, zoom, or pan can lead one to believe his phone has just locked up on him.

So a secondary Browser like Opera Mobile (now supports) is definitely necessary, IMO.
[Vibrant General] splat matt:
I initially got the vibrant when came out and hated it. Switched to a mytouch 4g (liked but screen was too small) and then a HD2 running android gingerbread (nand).

A friend liked my HD2 so much he gave me some $ and his vibrant. Nice thing about the vibrant is when at&t is running things my vibrant will still work on their 3G network.

But what is crazy is how well my vibrant runs on stock froyo. Stock froyo did not run well with my fiancee's vibrant and hers now runs the latest bionix. I thought for sure I would need to root and follow suit. My gps locks very fast almost as fast as my MT4G did (after using samsung restore - did not use and other fix or agps info). This vibrant has not lagged once! I keep waiting for it to give me an excuse to root but it is running to well. The only thing I did was factory reset (came with 2.1update1) then let it set for 30mins. Signed into google. Then updated to Froyo via mini kies. After it rebooted I let it set for 30 mins. Next I opened the market and it did some auto updates of the google apps when it was done I rebooted the phone. Once it was done booting I opened up maps and left it for 15mins and received no lock then I used samsung restore which took about 5mins and eversince then the GPS works great! I have loaded tons of apps and games (including large games from gameloft) and the phone just doesn't lag. Crazy I know. Maybe when setting this phone up for use it requires more time to process after a restore our update so it can run background functions.

Just my perspective on the vibrant. The thunderbolt is a great phone but I'm not sure I want verizon as my carrier considering they just changed their warranty policy: if a smartphone has cosmetic damage they will charge you $300 for the replacement. I have also heard subscribers complain of unexplained charges on their verizon bills.