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[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Right now I want Evo 3D on any network other than Sprint (sorry Mr Hess)... If HTC announces a GSM version on 4/22...that's the way I'm going. If not....tough decisions!
[EVO 4G General] Biker1:
Verizon Bites when it comes to their Elitist attitude, and Ala Carte pricing.

Verizon memorizes it's customers as does Apple with their iPhone, with their hocus pocus slight of hand.

I will say that the Thunderbolt specs beat out the Evo, but hey, the Evo came out a year ago, and was the King for that year. Technology forges ahead, and a year is a long time. Wait till the Evo 4G 2 comes out.
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
WiMAX > LTE and here's why: Separate radios.

OK so my buddy burst 20mb down on speed test whereas I normally get 8 and occasionally 10MB ... but here's the thing: when I _don't_ need WiMAX i can toggle my radio off. His LTE is stuck on. Yeah EVO owners think about that: imagine having your WiMAX radio on 24x7.

I actually know people who have returned their phones because it simply doesn't run a full business day. The battery life sucks. Hard. They actually _wish_ they could last as long as my EVO does. Could you imagine that kind of situation when the EVO launched? I certainly didn't.

keep your extra 10mb ... Ill keep a full day's charge thank you very much.
[EVO 4G General] ropodope:
it stays on 4lte unless it finds a 3g. Thats nuts.

ropodope

Sent from my Vaelpak 3.2 enhanced Evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
This is purely about Network speeds...not all the other characterizations of network service.

GEt off your speedtest apps and go into Verizon and download say desktop Engadget site 5 times on each. Results will mirror the ONETHOUSAND tests on the OP link.

We have a problem. (btw....I'm mobile all day for work and use my phone continually for data. Speed rules for me).
[EVO 4G General] :
Verizon phone bill: $100+

Sprint phone bill: $70+

LTE: Speed of the gods

Wimax: God is very tired and upset!!!

Sent from Darth Stewies' Evolution aboard the Death Star!
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
MAYbe for individual lines but family plans?

Nope.

Sprint family: $180 range.

Verizon family: $250 range.

[assuming 4 lines]
[EVO 4G General] :
TWO F****** FIFTY?!?!?! :-O

Sent from Darth Stewies' Evolution aboard the Death Star!
[EVO 4G General] ropodope:
Nice rebut. Kudos +1.

rope!

Sent from my Vaelpak 3.2 enhanced Evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] churro7:
Sprints so much cheaper and has the any mobile plus government discount keeps like $40 cheaper than same verizon plan

Plus if im off sprint network i got verizon asbackup

If verizon were cheaper and had anymobile id have a dinc or fascinate

Sent from Snarf with an Epic
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Yeah dude.

I price out all the carriers every 3 months just to see what's up [because I'm smart enough to keep my options open] and that was the price.

Our Sprint bill is around $180
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Why do you guys still respond to this guy..
[EVO 4G General] ropodope:
Hey it's ripley believe it or not. If it makes you feel better he can differentiate between having a problem with me in one thread and not necessarily another and if you read he isn't just responding to me. so get back on your broomstick there matilda.

rope!

Sent from my Vaelpak 3.2 enhanced Evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Why don't you contribute to the conversation?
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Verizon's way more expensive, Duh!....threads not about that tho...
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You brought up cost..no one else..
[EVO 4G General] Randy D:
Rocko, seriously, why do you care? Shareholder or what? I look at speedtest.net to see roughly the speed I am getting while mobile. Its plenty fast with sprint. If I need to do heavy lifting I get 30 mbps at home which is what that is for and I also have 2TB to use for the downloads. Unless you have a new fangled 500gb sd card, buy a laptop. If you're using it for lightning fast stock trades.... Dont know what to tell you.
[EVO 4G General] kidram:
Well sprint might be updating wimax to 2.0 and the download should be at 100mbs

-{KiD}-
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Yeah Sprint needs to step up like this:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/15/wimax-2-standard-and-its-theoretical-1gbps-downloads-to-be-fin/
[EVO 4G General] samsunghater:
i can personally atest to the fact verizon's service is absoulte sh*t when they took over alltel a company i have yet to find coverage that matches what they had verizons good in a major city outside lmfao rotf yea its that bad.... oh and their customer service sucks dog sh*t too
[EVO 4G General] ropodope:
the funny thing from my perspective is this, if at any time my sprint is less than admirable I can freely roam verizons towers through built in contracts that sprint has with verizon. so i really don't stand to lose except for about 50 bucks or so a month.

ropodope

Sent from my Vaelpak 3.2 enhanced Evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] ropodope:
Interesting short read. Thanks.

ropodope

Sent from my Vaelpak 3.2 enhanced Evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] Papa Smurf151:
Show me a company where I get 4g service, unlimited data, unlimited text, free mobile to mobile (any network), no data capping, great customer service, hot spots, teathering (wifi or USB), and non locked down OS for around 70 bucks and then u might have my ear as to changing services but then I'd be giving up my gold level priemer service where I get an upgrade every year. Also when it comes to price of phone I bought for $199.00 from bestbuy but got free policy to return phone after a year(upgrade time) and they pay me 40% of original purchase price ($600.00) back (that's $240.00) so pretty much will be paid to get a new phone. With verisons overpriced phones and ****ty customer service as well as the fact they r restricting android cause they r on their knees servicing Steve jobs and their rediculous pricing for service (tiered data and counting text msgs) why the hell would I ever go to them. Also I could give a **** about super high data speeds. If I want to dl a large file ill do it on my laptop or PC.

Edit...reason number 1000 to keep sprint service...I get a 20% discount cause the company I work for uses sprint.

Edit 2...the bestbuy program mentioned above use called their buy back program. Also I suggest when upgrading ur phone (regardless of service provider) u use bestbuy. They have lower prices and give u instant rebate in store. No mail in rebate or retarded rebate card that u have to wait 8-12 weeks to receive. Just sayin
[EVO 4G General] ropodope:
I wish I could have said it this well.

ropodope

Sent from my Vaelpak 3.2 enhanced Evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] :
1+

Standing Ovation!!!

Sent from my......ummm...let me get back at'chya!
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
+1 because I'm apparently "out of thanks" even though I haven't used more than a couple today.
[EVO 4G General] Biker1:
If Speed's everything, I'll give you 5G for $200/month ;)

I understand your concept, But sometimes you give a little to get Alot................
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
Wimax isn't all that great right now(Damn you clearwire), but your network wouldn't be either if you had multiple people with multiple devices that can do the 4g connection too. Plus there's also the price difference, after taxes with my sprint discount that they offer a discount just for anything under the sun I pay at the most $80. Wimax and LTE are also 2 different networks, so of course there's going to be a difference. If you can get me on my own line, where the data won't eventually be capped, where I can have 400 land line minutes I probably won't use even half of, and unlimited data, messaging, and to any mobile device for under $80 well I'll go right on ahead and join the party.

Just found this too,

http://phandroid.com/2011/03/31/you...ange-program-to-get-stricter-than-ever-rumor/
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
No, they werent. I got my Evo day 1 and never saw a speed faster than 11 megs down.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
My Verizon phone bill is $13 more than Sprint a month. Man yall are some cheap people around here.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Thats nice and all, but if this same company has data speeds so slow that I cant even watch a youtube video... or takes forever to load a webpage..WTF is the benefit of it being cheaper? There's no value when you're getting crap service in return for a low price. Yea it was fine when the 3G was actually decent, Sprint is basically a value carrier and thats no secret. If everyone cared about price then AT&T and Verizon wouldnt still be gaining millions of customers a year while Sprint can only add pre-paid customers. By reading posts on here youd think that more people would be interested in Sprint service but you still have SO many people leaving to go to other carriers. Obviously the cost doesnt matter that much.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Yea, and how many Sprint customers lost their upgrades yesterday? And people keep talking about this numbers thing but be clear, wimax even in the beginning was NEVER getting the speeds that LTE is getting now. I dont even understand why people keep saying this. I got mine the first day it came out and theres a tower right behind the best buy I bought it at and NEVER did any of us get anything over 11 mb. I keep hearing these claims about 15-20 mb wimax download speeds but ive never seen a speedtest to back that claim.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
That's you, I remember people talking about speeds similar to what lte users are seeing now.

To the rest of your replies here :

Like I said, we get it, you don't like sprint.

Get rid of em and move on.

If you happened to be in the MANY AREAS that doesn't have the 3g issue you don't have that complaint.

Ann arbor Michigan gets 2mbit plus on 3g with sprint for godsake.

And one other thing, at no point ever was Verizon ever even close to Sprint when I price them out.

Minimum of forty dollars more a month.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
You can keep repeating that... but it simply isn't true for family plans. Our verizon bill was 70 MORE a month with one smart phone instead of the three we have now.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Although the thread topic is not directly about cost, I'm posting this, simply to finally shut you up about this.

Ignore the phone costs because it's not relevant.

I chose unlimited data for all four lines, 1400 minutes, unlimited texting, insurance on all four lines, detailed billing and the Nav package.

Why?

Because I have 1500 minutes, unlimited texting, four lines with unlimited data, insurance for four lines, detailed billing and free Sprint nav with Sprint.

[By the way ALL FOUR OF OUR LINES HAVE THE EXTRA $10 / month data charge]

Price with Verizon: $335.81

Price with Sprint: $181.51

We're not talking about chump change here.

We're not talking about $13 dollars here [which would be $312 more over a two year contract].

We're talking about $3703.20 more over a two year contract.

[Also, the reason that I priced Verizon at $250 before was because I didn't include things like detailed billing and navigation which come free with Sprint and also insurance which I have on all four lines with Sprint]
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
Comedy
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
Sprint has pre paid?
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
My evo is from best buy also, will let them buy it back for a evo 3d
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
Verizon has signal where my Sprint phone doesn't. Verizon's 3g speeds are consistently faster than Sprints. Verizon didn't cover the Detroit area with 4G advertising, and sell a 4G phone that still has no 4G service a year later.

I know. Verizon costs more. Sprint is better. Lol.

I could care less if Sprints 4G is a little slower. I just wish it worked here fully.
[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
pics or it didn't happen.
[EVO 4G General] rican408:
I have a Droid x and an Evo. For people to say Verizon's 3g is fast is stupid. I travel a good distance everyday and use the phones for work. Droid averages 1mbps dl. The Evo 700mbps. On wimax I average 5-8 mbps. Verizon's 3g could never touch that.

Verizon charges waaaay more for barely better service and its still not even unlimited. Plan for plan, I cannot justify the "better " network. Wait till we compare Verizon's 4g plan. Haha that's gonna be a joke.
[EVO 4G General] Drunkenfetus:
Hahah freaking trolls.. if you like Verison so much why dont you just move to their network, free up some of that bandwidth for me! :P

Funniest crap ever is my stupid co-worker who has an EVO and is with sprint because of the plans, but yet keeps talking out of his ass about how LTE this and LTE that.. and verizon this and thunderbolt that.. lol

You just want to slap his face ...although calling him an internet troll shut him up...

Sprint has its ups and downs but with many years of looking for better providers i

feel sprint will always beat anyone with their unlimited data plans.

Im just a couple of months off to get the yearly upgrade so ...GO SPRINT!

Now HTC Sense is another story! lol
[EVO 4G General] Papa Smurf151:
Oh boohoo u only get up to 11mb dl speed. I don't get 4gservice at my house. I don't need it. Its a battery hog. My 3g service is perfectly fine. Web pages load fast, I get all the YouTube videos right away. I honestly have no problems. U on the other hand sound like someone who would complain about the quality of a blowjob rather than being happy ur getting head. Go to Verizon and then ***** on their phones forums about the horrible speeds but don't forget Ull be complaining that u can put a custom recovery on that phone and can't flash roms all day on it cause its locked up as well. Enjoy big red and their rediculous prices and crappy plans. I stick to the luxurys I get from the great company sprint. The drones that leave to go to big red and at&t do it to get an icrap and they don't get 4g. They just fall in line and do as they r told.
[EVO 4G General] :
In the end, its all about preference. Speed isnt everything. Yea wimax sucks right now but the overall service is great.

Sent from my......ummm...let me get back at'chya!
[EVO 4G General] corynat:
Christ, it's a phone. I am not trying to land the space shuttle with the damn thing. I want to do the things I need to do with it for as little money as possible. Everyone's delta on that will be different. Sprint meets mine.
[EVO 4G General] sling:
hmm choices choice in my area.

AT&T faster data calls drop left & right eat your arm off plans < Trash can network.

Verizon data a little faster then Sprint depending were you are pay up the A** for it.

Sprint Data fast enough for my needs plans offer more save big $$ &

EVO3D in the future :D

It only makes sense to go Sprint.

Those getting crappy Sprint coverage made move to V stop making fools of yourself posting nonsense to justify your move.

To Brag about the Bolt Ha , 3D will stomp it lol
[EVO 4G General] asqwrd:
+1 If ur service sux then move no one cares if u leave or stay.
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
No one ever said that Wimax was getting that kinds of speed at the beginning, and while Sprint customers are losing their upgrades Verizon customers are still losing a lot more, and have to pay more for small services. The speed of Wimax may not be as fast as LTE, but really on a phone or tethering your device, what are you really going to need it for? I'm not saying LTE is slower, but unless your on your phones wireless connection 24/7 if the area you're in has good sprint 4g and Verizon LTE coverage, you most likely won't notice a difference unless you're going to tether like 4 devices at once.

As for the Verizon bill being only $13 more a month than Sprint, again you don't get as much as you do with Sprint. You can go ahead and pay more if you want, but in the end of the day Sprint offers you a lot more. I may only have 400 landline minutes, but I hardly use those minutes. My nights for free minutes starts at 7pm. I'm annoyed since I've gone back to Sprint I still don't have 4g, but the 3g speed here is pretty decent. And a lot of places I'm at has wifi.

They own Boost mobile and Virgin mobile. Boost mobile is going from iden to cdma too, you can even flash some of your phones to boost mobile.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
You pay for better service. If you get ****ty service with Sprint (either poor 3G speeds, No 4G, or poor voice coverage), you're almost guaranteed to get good service with Verizon. That's what you are paying $13 more for. Nobody is going to Verizon "just because".
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
I didn't say you get crappy service with Verizon either. I had Verizon for a little bit, the service was about as good as what Sprint is in my area. Speed wise they're about the same, I didn't have an issue with either of them.(Except the fact that 4g was completely skipped over in my area) But then there's the "getting what you paid for." This one was geared more towards me, but I was offered a discount through Sprint that I wasn't offered through verizon, then found other types of discounts where you can basically just have a name that starts with J, and sprint will offer you a discount somewhere. You are paying more, but it's not always because of better service, and I know this after selling phones too. It's based on 1-2 of these 3 things.

1.What phone is available(Iphone on AT&T is proof of this)

2.Referred by other people or adding a line to a plan

3.Last but not least, price which this also includes discounts too

People line up still for the Iphone on AT&T more than they do than the Verizon CDMA version, but the Verizon version has shown to have better coverage and support, but people still go to AT&T despite having data caps, high monthly rates, and almost everyone I've talked to bad service and a bad reception issue with the Iphone. And they still complain about the service, but keep the phone.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
It ain't $13.

Not sure why we keep using a figure that was a complete and utter lie.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12592780&postcount=89

Almost guaranteed better service? Puh-lease.

Some of you people act like Verizon is gods gift to cell phone service.

There's only one situation that I roam on Sprint and that's in some basements.

But my friends with Verizon don't have service in those situations either.

You keep talking about being worth the cost.

The day that cell phone service costs $335.81 / month is the day that I no longer have a cell phone.

That's a goddamn car payment.

I could lease a ************* Cadillac CTS for that price.

And just to add to this I'll post the cost of individual service.

Verizon: $128.95 a month

Sprint: $87.98 a month

Not $13, a 50% increase...$40.
[EVO 4G General] sling:
locations in my area have crap Verizon coverage compared to Sprint.

Im sure its the case for many....especially on roam. V charges sprint doesn't big money saver there.

heck tons of post V users getting screwed over

http://verizarape.com/sort.php?type=new

Those that make V to be perfect need to get a grip. All carriers have pros & cons some go V some go Sprint whatever floats their boat.

AT&T customer on the other hand get bent over
[EVO 4G General] hddwiper:
What about CricKet? My Evo rocks the network! lol...
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
My bad, it's not $13 more, it's just $10.

$59.99 for 900 minutes with 5 unlimited friends and family. Connect one of those friends and family numbers to your Google Voice number and get unlimited calling to any phone - and not just mobile phones like on Sprint.

$29.99 for data, and with the thunderbolt or upcoming Bionic, that includes LTE. Throw in Google Voice for unlimited texting over data, might as well since I'd used my GV # + F&F for unlimited calling. In NYC, I'm lucky to get 500 kbs with Sprint, with Verizon I'd get an instant bump to 1.5 Mbps and 15+ Mbps on LTE (both tested by me last week 5pm at Union Square in Manhattan). I'd also finally be able to use 4G inside of buildings in NYC.

So that's $89.98 for unlimited calling, texts, plus data that actually works.
[EVO 4G General] sling:
heck ya now were talking performance lol

They wipe the floor with all of them
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You're forgetting navigation and detailed billing which is free with Sprint.

You're also forgetting insurance.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Navigation? You mean you would use Sprint Navigation over the much better, and not to mention FREE, Google Navigation. Right... Detailed billing. I never even look at my bill.

Insurance? I don't even have insurance on my EVO with Sprint. Either way wouldn't that just add on just about the same to both base plans($69.99+$10 / $59.99+$29.99)? I just checked and it's $6.99/month for Verizon smartphones? Isn't Sprint just about the same?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I don't care what YOU USE and what YOU LOOK at.

If you don't look at your bill then....well...I prefer not to name call so ill just shake my head.

The fact is that were doing a comparason and the fact is that people DO use Sprint navigation or they would stop offering it.

When I didn't have an android device sprint navigation was all I used.

You know, if I take Verizon and only get 450 minutes with no data and no text Verizon is actually cheaper than Sprint too :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] Papa Smurf151:
Here's an idea get rid of ur evo(give it to someone who will appreciate it) then get take it up the ass at big red and stop *****ing about sprint. Its tiring and no one really cares about you or ur complaints. Ull just go complain on thunderbolt forums....which is fine with me cause ill never have to listen to it again
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I'm planning on moving one of my lines to Verizon. There's no doubt about that. I just might stick around for the Nexus S though. I also find it weird that you are so bothered by words on a forum.
[EVO 4G General] sling:
+1

There will be a lot of complaining to.

Were are all the developers , I should of waited went 3D ,Sprint has better plans why did I leave 3G is up to par again in my area , V billings wrong etc.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
Hahahaha, too funny!
[EVO 4G General] OtisFeelgood:
Not recent enough. GG
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
So i went and brought up a verizon plan.

Verizon: 2000 minutes, 2 smart phones(we don't really need a third), $205 ($235 if you want to compare the "same" plans)

Sprint: 1600 (We don't need more because of mobile to mobile) 3 smart phones, $135

$1680 saved in the life of the contract. Pretty easy choice here...
[EVO 4G General] sling:
Not bad at all
[EVO 4G General] Smurph82:
Sprint has really started to up their game. I have read in several places that one Sprint has the best plans for the money hands down. T Mobile was very close but after ATT buys them out that won't be the case. Also the phones that run on the T Mobile 4G, upgraded 3G, network will not work on Att's 4G network. Second the customer service with Sprint, has gotten better over the past two/three years. Third Androidpolice put this article out and it shows that while on 3g Verizon is not better than Sprint cell phones only http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/03/14/which-carriers-network-is-really-the-fastest-pc-world-attempts-to-answer/. Yes Verizon may have a bigger network but that comes from buying Alltel out a few years ago, but everywhere I have gone I have service with Sprint. Sure LTE maybe faster but rumors with Sprint already suggest that they are planning to move to LTE. The main reason that Sprint went with Wimax is because they own the controlling share of Clearwire. So why not use what they already control. Sprint's current spectrum of 3g includes LTE spectrums so it will not be very hard to start rolling out LTE on Sprint towers they just have to install the hardware and get the phones.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
He doesn't really compare. I've already gone over this with him in the LTE vs WiMax thread. He leaves everything out of Verizon that Sprints offers so that prices are "the same"... That's like saying my Cadillac with 20'' chrome wheels, leather seats, automatic parking, navigation and coffee warmer costs $32,000 the same as Verizon, but you have to remove the navigation, chrome wheels and coffee warmer because let's be honest, who the hell needs that?