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[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Try the latest version?

sent from my phone running leanKernel + Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] miketoasty:
Interesting. I used this kernel about a month ago and had nothing but problems which I understand my phone just couldnt take it. Now a month later I try it again and it works great. Got to love technology.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] m1mgd00:
I just wanted to add my experience, since I am using the Sense-based 1.11 version of battsaver as my daily driver (Perfect Storm 1.4).

Moving to 1.2.3 caused me to have data problems for some reason. (I am in a 4G area and have the latest radio installed.) Reverting back to 1.11 restored data.

By 'data problems,' I mean I couldn't browse the web, access email, etc., even though the phone showed that I had network connectivity. At the same time, the load on the battery shot up to 700-800 mA; when running 1.11, I don't think I've seen the battery load above 600 mA.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] m1mgd00:
I forgot to mention that I was using the ondemandX setting in 1.11 and 1.2.3. I admit I didn't think to tinker with the various CPU governors until after I went back to 1.11. :o
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dadsterflip:
Sorry if this has been asked but I tried going a couple pages back. Is this compatible with bamf 1.6?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
The sense kernel is compatible with any and all sense roms

The AOSP kernel is compatible with CM7 only
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dadsterflip:
That's what I thought so. I just read somewhere that on 1.6 you have to use the kernel with it. On 1.5 I used this kernel and it was great.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
v2.0.5AOSPbeta (5/4/11) - fixed torch app access to brightness.

I'm gonna let this version bake for a few hours and wait for any last min bug reports. And then i'm going to go back to Sense.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] n8theshredder:
Has anyone ran both the sense extreme (1), and normal (2) kernels? Just wondering if there is a big difference on battery life. i'm running the normal version, and am happy with the battery life. Just wondering if its worth flashing the extreme version.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] travishamockery:
Would love to run one of these kernels, but something wacky with my phone and them is keeping my screen on. Happens quite often and seems only specific to these. When I flash back to another I haven't had this happen. I was away from my desk today, got a text message and came back and my screen was on for like 35 minutes. It dimmed, but never fully shut off.

Has any one has this happen? I searched but did not see anything. Thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mmtoman:
Could you put the kernel versions in the title or a update date to make it easy to see if its been updated?

Love the kernel. Running the latest sense one with Tesla coil and love it!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
Any chance we could get the VOxx kernel module added for call recording as they have in the BAMF kernel? Or possible a flashable zip to add it (I understand adding things to the kernel doesn't make it "lean"). Or would it be better if I just ran that kernel instead?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
How about now? :)

I'll look into it. As long as it's a loadable module I'm ok with adding.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BurnOne77:
Can u pls make a stock voltage 1.2ghz slot on ur new sense kernel :)

1.2.3 has been nothing short of awesome.

Ty
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
heh i forget. Was this the "normal" kernel with 1.2ghz running at stock 1ghz voltage?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BurnOne77:
Yessir the bo77 1.2.3 :)

1ghz voltage at 1.2. My phones sweet spot.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mmtoman:
great quick response!!

I'm gonna post a pic of my battery life in a second of me running batt saver kernel running Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mmtoman:
Here's my battery life.

Batt saver kernel

Tesla coil 1.7.1
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
think well be seeing a new sense .35 kernel today? ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] distortedloop:
+1 on that request. I went back to BAMF's default kernel once I realized call recording no long worked. :eek:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
I dunno.. My first sense build didn't boot at all. :p
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
well its still progress!! :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] cmo220:
Changing your kernel for something to add voice recording sounds like a terrible idea to me. Keep doing what you're doing. So far no problems with new aosp kernel.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerozehl:
Can AOSP kernel be used with Tesla Coil or do I have to use the Sense kernel? I'm confused. :X
[Thunderbolt Android Development] avlfive:
Thanks for updating the thread title, it helps out quite a bit.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
sense kernel is used for all ROMs except for CM7. I will update first post to clarify soon.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CJNYC:
Quick question...

I'm new to this kernel. Running Das Bamf 1.6.1. I have tried to read through all the pages but can't find a simple answer. How drastically different is the battery life between "extreme" and "battsaver"?

Thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] corenojoe:
What he has said is that basically extreme and battsaver are exactly the same up to 1ghz. Then extreme has the 2 extra overclock options of 1.2 and 1.4 I believe imoseyon said that 1.4 is about the same voltage as stock, which us awesome. I run mine with extreme at 1.2 which is the best to me because it is overclocked and still undervolted and I get nice battery life (anywhere from 12-20+ hours depending on usage)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] patdroid1:
extreme is just an overclock kernel...will be same as batterysaver up to 1036 MHZ...after that you will lose battery life but gain performance.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CJNYC:
Thanks you!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
Still using 1.92x v.1.2.3 for over a week with no issues. InteractiveX has been very kind on my battery even running 1.92/245 :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raziel36:
Settings>Applications>Development... make sure "Stay Awake" is unchecked, otherwise, anything that causes the screen to come on will cause what you described. Long shot, and the easiest explanation, which is why it is probably the problem.. usually something obvious that we overlook. I leave mine on "Stay Awake", personally.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
Hey Imoseyon I was wondering how much ext4 filesystem tweaks would improve performance. The latest bamf moved it to the kernel so we lose it if flashing another kernel. Just wondering what your thoughts are on it and if it's worth it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raziel36:
1.92x AOSP v2.05 fixed Torch force close, but killed my data connection. Flashed back to 2.04 and 3G data working again, just a heads up.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Does bamf support ext4? I removed ext4 from my kernel because there weren't any ROMs supporting ext4 at the time. I can add it back in to v2.0, which will have much newer ext4 code than stock kernel.

Hmmm the only difference between 2.0.5 and 2.0.4 is a single line of code for flash leds. I would try flashing 2.0.5 again. I didn't have any trouble with data, nor did I get any report from users about this.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Derrtydozen:
2.0.5 is running smooth, torch works now!! Nice Job!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mmtoman:
I have another silly naming request haha. Sorry. I dont know how technically difficult this is but could you make the "kernel version" something that makes sense?

Like "batt saver 1.2.3" for example.

Would be stupendous!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
I bring you Incredible S kernel (vivo-2.6.35.9) for thunderbolt sense ROMs (all ROMs except CM7)!

2.6.35.9 is many revisions newer than stock tbolt kernel (mecha-2.6.32), and majority of the kernel code was completely re-written - file systems (ext3,4,etc.), memory management, networking, and many more. In fact, much of the 2.6.35.9 kernel code is very similar or identical to the latest linux version (2.6.38/39).

v2.0.0 (5/5/11)

- brand new kernel base (2.6.35) - mostly new code.

- Extreme,battsaver, and 1.92X have an extra slot at 184Mhz/650VDD for better battery life.

If you are having problems after flashing v2, please go back to v1.2.3 and report here.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 4dfl4:
Just flashed the newest battsaver, booted up fast and so far no issues, your kernels are awesome, one question though I've been using ondemandX governor and had great battery life 18-20hours with moderate use do you think interaciveX will improve batt life or is it pretty much the same?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mmtoman:
Will the default smartass still work with the new kernels
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Kroaker:
Anyone tried the new release with the 1.6.2 BAMF Rom yet?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 4dfl4:
I flashed it over 1.6.2 Bamf remix works great
[Thunderbolt Android Development] want a droid:
I'm also wondering everyone's preferences? I've been using smartass, but recently switched to interactiveX.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
this kernel.... i swear i see a difference already and its only been thirty minutes... running tesla coil and the battery seems to be great as always if not better. But i do see a noticeable performance increase!!! love it man, you've out done yourself :D

and to answer some peoples questions, i use interactive X. Better battery life than ondemandx, and better performance than smartass
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
I think so in the updates it says it's running on ext4 with filesystem tweaks. Would be awesome to have it with all your other tweaks. :-D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kenmills78:
Does your wifi work?

I am on bamf remix 1.6.2 with the 2.0 extreme kernal. I flashed it through Kernal Manager and set the high to 1.037. I do NOT have wifi.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kenmills78:
maybe this is a dumb question so I apologize up front. Does the 2.0 kernal support LTE since it was based on the incredible S?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sparhawk36:
Flash through CWM. There is an issue with kernel manager where the modules are not being flashed as part of the kernel flash.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sparhawk36:
The radio is not part of the Kernel. The kernel has no effect on the 4G radio (RIL)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kenmills78:
Have you had any other issues?

zhpilot posted this on the bamf thread

"Filesystem tweaks were moved to the kernel in 1.6.2, so if you use anything other than bamf 4.4.4 you lose them. Just so you know."
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sparhawk36:
Imoseyon stated that he would include EXT4 in the 2.0 kernel. I'm running it now on BAMF remix 1.6.2 with no problems.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dr_drache:
So, I was wondering for my own sick pleasure, could you post (or PM me) your VDD settings for the extreme?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BennyJr:
Running on bamf 1.6.2 and wifi works here
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kenmills78:
good to know. Are you getting better battery life than 4.4.4?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] corenojoe:
Swap file doesn't seem to be working with version 2.0
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
sorry guys for a quick release - v2.0.1 (extreme, battsaver, and 1.92X only) fixes undervolting for lowest clock speed.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kenmills78:
flashing through CWM worked like a champ. Bummer I like kernal manager
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Actually there is some LTE driver code in the kernel. I had to backport the LTE code from the tbolt mecha kernel for 4G to work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
I've been waiting to hear back from Shinzul on what's going on with the kernel manager. Nothing yet so far....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] swimminsurfer256:
Was it too low or too high?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nerogold:
Dude I'm now rebooting from 2.0.0 and another version, you are one sick puppy. Lol, thanks this new one does feel way faster .
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
Kernel manager won't work for me even with the other kernels on there *shrugs*
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
I had the lowest limit for clock code set at 750VDD so it wasn't going lower than that. I fixed the limit so it can dip all the way down to 650.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] corenojoe:
Any reason swap wont work now?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kenmills78:
I figured there had to be something. Thanks for taking the extra time to make sure LTE worked!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
My swap works, did you flash the enable swap zip?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dr_drache:
No response of the vdd values? K.. thanks though
[Thunderbolt Android Development] corenojoe:
Yep flashed it

*edit* nvm its working now
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
I'm celebrating cinco de mayo. Will post later tonight. :)

sent from my phone running leanKernel + Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dr_drache:
It's allllll good party on
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 52brandon:
I'm sure this has been answered before, but I couldn't find it in this huge thread. How can I check that swap is enabled?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Richpopski123:
No flashlight with new kernel... Anyone else confirm? Running bamf
[Thunderbolt Android Development] slammed:
I can confirm. Im running bamf 1.6.2 with the 2.0.1 kernel and cant use the flashlight. I flashed bamf kernel 4.4.5 and flashlight now works.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TsaiKimon:
@52Brandon

You don't have to read everything just use the thread search. I typed swap, pressed enter, and bingo. Just helping not being arrogant, tone is hard to type :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 52brandon:
lol, that was it. It's been a while since I had a swap partition on my D1. Thanks man, I always forget to search forum, I'm usually pretty lucky to find it by looking through some pages

ETA: yay, swap works fine on mine
[Thunderbolt Android Development] B3L13V3:
Yup flashlight not working running asylum ROM, hope you can get a fix up soon Imo I love your kernels just the smoothest and fastest for me, also any way to get the convert to ext4 adrenalyne did on his kernel and DasBAMF?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] SubliminalME:
Just checked...no flashlight for me either. new extreme kernel at 1.4 on Tesla Coil.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] azturbomini:
No flashlight here either. Running das bamf
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MadBrad11:
When using the v2.0.5AOSPbeta kernel with bluetooth the volume buttons do not work. Music streams at the maximum media volume and lowering it has no effect. This only happens over bluetooth, the volume works normally otherwise.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mmtoman:
I read the links in the OP but still don't totally get it.

Will it help battery life? ? Will it help performance and overall smoothness?

Some more specific description would be so nice
[Thunderbolt Android Development] corenojoe:
Also no flashlight, running perfect storm v1.4
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Ok flashlight fix coming later today. Thx for the report.

sent from my phone running leanKernel + Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raziel36:
Glad it's not just me.. I noticed this yesterday, while trying to get my phone out of the car dock(it's *really* snug in that damn thing). When I got it out, I noticed the volume button being pressed and showing to be all the way down, but still blaring through my speakers. I never use phone volume to control it in my car, though, so it's not a big deal to me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Hmm does the stock cm7 kernel behave differently?

FYI guys, misplaced my laptop yesterday during the festivities so the development is halted until tonight and my responses may be a bit slow today.

sent from my phone running leanKernel + Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wongk:
ext4

Any ETA on ext4? Or does that latest version have it and it's just not in the changelog?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Richpopski123:
Damn you cinco day mayo! :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raziel36:
Not sure about stock, it's been a while lol, but your earlier builds didn't seem to have this issue. There WAS an update to PowerAMP, but I don't see an app causing this to happen. Maybe an issue with themes or the new gapps? I'm not flashaholic enough to thoroughly test the cause, as it really hasn't bothered me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] khanfuze:
Guess i'm not one of the lucky few, now my phone won't start. boot loader keeps going straight to the radio update. wtf

Removed sd card did a factory reset. It still wont start.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raziel36:
Factory reset just removes user added apps and info. To change the kernel, you have to restore a backup or flash a different one from recovery. Leaving the radio update file on the SD card is a known No-No.. it will always try to install, not letting you use other hboot features. Delete the file from a PC or another phone. You could try an adb reboot recovery command from the hboot menu, but not sure if it will work from there.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Smok3d:
From the radio update screen go to the recovery tab and click the power button. Now you should be in the clockwork manager and flash an old kernel and you should be good.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] khanfuze:
Managed to flash a rom without sd card reader. ;) Phone is working again.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jaym25:
Can someone please explain how to flash enable_swap.zip. My Thunderbolt is rooted and I'm able to flash the kernel just fine. I tried ROM Manager and it didn't work. I tried renaming the file to PG05IMG.zip and Hboot with no success and tried adb shell but do not know the proper commands to use.

Please explain to this Android noobe how to flash enalbe_swap.zip. Thank you.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raziel36:
Umm.. Clockwork recovery. Install from zip, choose zip, choose Yes... wait till finished and reboot? Just a shot in the dark.. I haven't done that particular file, but I believe it was no different than installing any other flashable zip. If Rom Manager doesn't work, just reboot to recovery and try manually.. that way you'll see any errors, instead of it automatically rebooting when done.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] whewstoosae:
You need to boot into clockwork mod and flash the file in there.

Go to recovery, install zip from SD, choose zip, select enable_swap, reboot.

Sent from my Thunderbolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gohamstergo:
dont do that again X_X one youre rooted you dont need to rename anything to that until its time for a new radio.

forget about rom manager. just reboot into recovery > install from zip > choose zip from sd card

edit: damnit thats twice ive been preempted by a few seconds...wtf
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xyojimbox:
What is swap exactly?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jaym25:
Thanks for all the help! I was able to do it through clockwork mod but it doesn't seem to be taking. It is supposed to create a swapfile as described on the first page of this thread to make more room for running programs.

It appears you can use the info tab in SetCPU (downloaded from marketplace) to see the swapfile in memory but it remains 0. Guess I'll just give it up for now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 52brandon:
follow his link in his first post
[Thunderbolt Android Development] KGBxxx:
How do we check if it works? And after flashing the smartass tweak, every time we flash a new kernel does the tweak need to be applied again?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Hey guys found a problem with the low slot again. Once that's fixed I'll release 2.1 with flashlight fix and ext4.

sent from my phone running leanKernel + Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
What was the problem? Just curious lol. noticed my battery draining kinda fast with extreme 1.9X at 184min and 1ghz max.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
Type "free" in terminal emulator and if the row of swap doesn't have zeros in it then it's setup correctly.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Richpopski123:
We have lots of love for you!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tdog7879:
I noticed that too..I was listing to Pandora for 2hrs this morning threw speaker and it dropped to 57% On the previous kernel 1.2.3 I could listen to Pandora for 4hrs and it would only drop down to 70% so I glad I'm not the only one noticing this battery drain.

Sent from my thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
Yeah I flashed the stock BAMF kernel just for comparison and it definitely felt like leanKernel was depleting fast. I went from 100 to 80 with barely any use in 2 hrs. Normally only 5%-10% would deplete.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] KGBxxx:
Perfect
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
It turns out thunderbolt cannot go below 750VDD, and the 184Mhz slot was struggling to go below 750 draining battery in the process. :(

Now the question becomes whether 184Mhz at 750 is worth it when my 256Mhz is at 800VDD. Let me do some more testing tonight and I will release 2.1 with or without the 184Mhz slot.

For now I'd set the min to 256Mhz using setcpu to avoid problems.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] icesteve:
I was reading in the bamf thread that the one of the bamf team members had sent the kernel manager developer a log file from another member, and he is looking into a fix for the wifi issue
[Thunderbolt Android Development] smashtheguitar:
Yeah, I definitely was confused by the poor battery life I was getting. I also noticed that, if I left it on the 184mhz setting and left the screen off for awhile, it'd lock up and I'd have to do a battery pull. This happened twice.

That said, I'd love to see you set the VDD as low as we can go.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
That makes sense lol, does 50vdd make that much difference? I know that 1.2 is only 50vdd more than 1ghz right? So maybe it'd make sense to just include it? I'm all for battery savings if it's stable.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Those of you that can test battery drain at 184Mhz I have a test build for sense. Please PM me or tweet me if you want to help with testing for the next few hours.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] want a droid:
I pm'd to test and I also had some screen off lock ups.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
This is a good idea. I will implement it soon - I will need to automate it first.

the zip file? yup.

This is hard to do because it changes slightly with just about every release. You can follow it here if you don't mind reading through the code a bit:

https://bitbucket.org/imoseyon/lean...373/arch/arm/mach-msm/acpuclock-7x30.c#cl-134

I suspect the issue is probably with the ROM (cm7)....

Screen off lockups are mostly due to extreme undervolting on the lowest clock speed. Either you need a non-extreme version, or in this case the issue is most likely the 184Mhz bug that v2.1 will address.

Any other questions I missed?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RjsShadows:
Imoseyon you think you could ask adrynalyne for his kernel tweaks to add on to yours? It would be awesome because I prefer your kernels It would just be better if you added his tweaks. Wouldn't it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Which tweaks are you interested in? I do have access to his code repo so I can borrow his code if I find it beneficial. I tend not to take other people's code unless I truly feel that its going to add value though.

sent from my phone running leanKernel + Tesla coil
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RjsShadows:
He added some new tweaks to his newest kernel that "noticeably" improved performance, and said that they're for ext4 file system based kernels. Some people asked him if your kernel could run it and he said if you asked him he'd be glad to give you the tweaks.