yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xoom General] patass:
i was looking for a thread with just handbreak presets and not 14 pages of complaining about .avi files
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
Good luck with that! I have been waiting for such details for a while ;). Didn't mean to offend. I can give you details from my AVS settings if that helps.

[sent with Xooming Android technology]
[Xoom General] patass:
Also, just for the record...The rockplayer apk from this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1009228

Appears to play the videos I converted for my Evo better, and they loot a lot sharper, when played in Software Encoding mode. The animated files I was having trouble with no longer have issues, and my blu-ray rips look quite a bit crisper.
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
Finally today i had enough... I filed a formal complaint with the FTC against motorola and all other mobile device manufacturers out lining the cause and effect of these companies selling us devices that we are made to be only users of rather than owners and administrators the devices we purchased. Nothing will change until we make some one step in and set the rules, i am encouraging everyone here on xda to do the same ... here is a link to the example complaint i filed and the link to the appropriate form to be filed

http://t0dbld.blogspot.com/2011/03/my-complaint-to-ftc-on-lock-bootloaders.html

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
[Atrix 4G General] mafiaboy01:
Can I still do this as a Canadian Citizen or is it only for Americans?
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
could not hurt...
[Atrix 4G General] jkurl:
even though I don't own this device anymore I still filed a complaint. Rooting this device is much easier than the HTC Inspire. I hope they listen.
[Atrix 4G General] NoNameAtAll:
Good luck with this. You'll need it. No sarcasm intended.
[Atrix 4G General] kdoodle:
t0dbld, I read your complaint and don't take my comment as negative but your complaint is full of grammatical errors. The case in point about Samsung keylogging has been debunked. But your example is always a possible scenario. AT&T data capping speeds for all phones but the iPhone is something we could mention as crippling.

I'm 100% in favor of unlocking our phones boot loader.

http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/sec/2011/032811sec2.html <-- Samsung false alarm article.

Again, I don't mean any disrespect. I appreciate the developers who help the Android community, especially the Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] Fenny:
Here was my submission:
[Atrix 4G General] tical2k:
I smell an april fools setup post.... if not.. everyone remember what day tomorrow is. ;)
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
I replied on the blog but i will reply here as will in case you did not read , that is a blog, i am not concenred with errors or anything there, also that was not my EXACT complaint as i did not want it to just get copy and pasted hence taking away from my formal complaint, while i appreciate your support and interest , i do think your time would have better used to file an actual complaint as per my request , rather than writing me a 2 page comment about mine :-P either way good to have you on board, and make sure yours is well written
[Atrix 4G General] TheDude:
You should have let me proof that prior to submission. Other than it being way to long, over technical, and demonstrating piss poor English it did actually make some points! No hard feelings bro ;)

The problem is that corporate America will not read our complaints, they simply don't care about anything but their bottom dollar. The bottom dollar is protected by the boot loader. New features? Go buy our new device!

The way I see it, we have two options.

A.) Petition our government to impose regulations and implement new laws to control these corporations and protect our consumer rights. But wait, doesn't our government make a lot of money off this industry in every aspect? How much tax did you pay when you bought your device? Ever look at the taxes on your phone bill? It's rape any way you cut it. It's not the 'sleeping with your girlfriend while she's passed out drunk' rape. It's more like the 'in the alley, behind a dumpster, while it's raining and dark getting raped by an HIV infected ex-con bum' rape. So my point is, the FTC is a government subsidiary and our taxes pay their salerys. We have established that they enjoy to rape us and we pay them to do it. Keep up the complaints, they just might change their outlook on life. For now, I would say option A can be scratched off the list.

B.) Start a revolution. Unite, gather our firearms, cordinate our forces, and take our country back!

Or someone smarter than I could just crack the damn boot loader... That's all i have for now, time to burn one ;)
[Atrix 4G General] gzrecoil:
Submitted complaint
[Atrix 4G General] Mr. Clown:
Moved to general as not android development
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
ummm are you that dense this is not a joke

OK nice ridiculous rant , for the last time that was not the EXACT complaint, secondly the FTC is the closest government agency that would have anything to do with this so what do you think we are doing, third please mr 420 hippy do something on your own than, to many times i have been given suggestions by pot smoking liberals with all the answers... yet never once seen them step up to the plate, while my self on the other hand has a long documented court history for the things i believed in and stood up for, i am not against any method of trying to draw attention and get results as this is not about the phone in my hand today but the future of the industry, so please try any method you wish but than do it and than give us your lesson about rape and pot smoke and alleys as the rest of us act with actions.... not long drawn out imaginative story's after "burning one" than dont make any real sense or have any relevance
[Atrix 4G General] tical2k:
No not dense, just real. Why would THIS make a difference, the community has been *****ing about bootloaders being locked for ages. Just throw another *****ing complaint in the pile, they don't care. Get a lawyer pack that can combat ATT and/or moto. Are you THAT dense to think you can make a difference. Dont get me wrong I like your spirit and you have an ethos, but not enough money to fix it. sorry face reality.
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
your right.... give up and win, why vote either your vote doesnt count so who cares
[Atrix 4G General] tical2k:
Nice rebuttle. And for the record I vote... right down the middle to maintain chaos, because politics are only good when they don't do anything unless they both parties agree on it. If you dont like the bootloader being locked why buy it? Also why not return it.
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
Your missing the point entirely , this is not about my motorola atrix, i could care less and mine will be unlocked sooner than later... this is about the fact that they have no right to make us users on devices that we own, we own it we deserve to have administrative rights as well as the option to load what ever software we want on it... period
[Atrix 4G General] joemommasfat:
Go away, troll
[Atrix 4G General] tical2k:
I end with a quote from Swimming with Sharks (a great kevin spacey movie btw):

"Look, I can appreciate this. I was young too, I felt just like you. Hated authority, hated all my bosses, thought they were full of ****. Look, it's like they say, if you're not a rebel by the age of 20, you got no heart, but if you haven't turned establishment by 30, you've got no brains. Because there are no story-book romances, no fairy-tale endings. So before you run out and change the world, ask yourself, "What do you really want?"
[Atrix 4G General] Deleted member 2488575:
I submitted it.

Everyone please do this it doesn't take any time.
[Atrix 4G General] :
Oh I did it, I just don't like pricks who call me dense since i gave out an april fools warning.
[Atrix 4G General] TheDude:
Man, why must you go and call me a liberal? You seem like you have a lot of anger, maybe you should "burn one".
[Atrix 4G General] booty hater:
As a company they have every right to do this. It's their hardware, and their software.

I wouldn't be surprised if later down the road cell phone companies take the same road as home video game console makers and start banning phones with unauthorized software on them.
[Atrix 4G General] professor_chaos:
Yes, it seems that the HTC Thunderbolt's bootloader was signed as well... this could be a worrying trend that needs to be nipped in the bud.

T0dbld, hope this doesn't cause you to abandon us poor Atrix users... :)
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
lol thanks but those days are long behind me :-(, toke up for me though

Um open source is not there software... also for the last time stop looking at this as a custom rom situation, that is what is cornholing us, my dell, my 3 apple, my 2 hp, my cr48, computers all built hardware and sent me it with software, yet everyone of them i have administrator access, and can install any OS i want on them

nah ill just stop responding and joining in
[Atrix 4G General] di11igaf:
I don't own one anymore either for the sole purpose of the bootloader so I will fill out as well, can't hurt. Ive said it before what good is open source if you can do nothing with the source code. I wish Google would try to make it a requirement manufacturers to go their route- fastboot oem unlock, even if it voids warranty(as it should), and we can't return it after that. But it shouldn't be an issue cause there would be a lot less bricks, wed have a safe way to flash kernels or whatever we want without having to hack the **** out of the phone.
[Atrix 4G General] booty hater:
Yes you're right it is open source but 1/2 of it is moto's with blur and all. I like the way di11i put it where we have the option and it will void warranty. But my point is its their device they make it how they choose and we as consumers have the right to not buy it. Were not being forced to buy these. As with any purchase I've ever made I've never been 100% satisfied. In situations such as this phone it boils down to acceptable losses. Do you want the hottest new top of the line hardware or do you want a little less but have in what people in here are calling "complete ownership of the device."

I guess I'm just tired of people coming off like their backs are against a wall.
[Atrix 4G General] Gr8Danes:
Also submitted a complaint. We need to all join together to get this done. 6500 signatures on the petition is a good start, but we need to push hard to achieve this across all manufacturers.
[Atrix 4G General] drock212:
The FTC is the ones that created the DMCA. Which allowed the end user a lot more flexability on what they do with their cell phones. Im sure we all know that people are now allowed to jailbreak their iphones. We could argue that Moto is forcing us to do nothing with our rightfully purchased handsets. So I think this is a great way to go at this. We're pursuing a lot of avenues. I believe that if we draw enough attention about these issues we could bring a revolutionary change to the cellphone world and the ability to fully customize.

PS. I filed a complaint as well :-)
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
DING DING DING!! thanks for being some one who gets it exactly all phones should come unlocked and should allow the end user administrative access with out the use of exploits, modding or hacking. Just like computers, i have no problem if manufacturers than license software and use keys and such just like the computer industry ...
[Atrix 4G General] yokopol:
Did it too, doesn't take much time and more the better;)
[Atrix 4G General] CarbonX:
Filed a complaint! The Atrix could be the phone of phones -locked bootloader

and AT&T network!
[Atrix 4G General] diedemus:
The DMCA was not put in place for cellphones and does not help the end user in 90% of the cases it is used.

As far as the FTC complaint goes, read your Safety, Regulatory & Legal Information booklet that came with the phone.

"Motorola has not approved any changes or modifications to this device by the user. Any changes or modifications could void the user's authority to operate the equipment. See 47 CFR Sec 15.21."

If you don't like the terms, return it.
[Atrix 4G General] Girgizzlemuf:
FCC Notice 47 C.F.R. § 15.21

NOTE:

This equipment has been tested and found to comply with the limits for a Class B digital device, pursuant to part 15 of the FCC Rules. These limits are designed to provide reasonable protection against harmful interference in a residential installation. This equipment generates, uses and can radiate radio frequency energy and, if not installed and used in accordance with the instructions, may cause harmful interference to radio communications. However, there is no guarantee that interference will not occur in a particular installation. If this equipment does cause harmful interference to radio or television reception, which can be determined by turning the equipment off and on, the user is encouraged to try to correct the interference by one or more of the following measures:

Reorient or relocate the receiving antenna.

Increase the separation between the equipment and receiver.

Connect the equipment into an outlet on a circuit different from that to which the receiver is connected.

Consult the dealer or an experienced radio/TV technician for help.

Taken from http://www.nettalk.co/faq/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=159&nav=0,18

Funny thing is, that fcc addendum has nothing to do with a bootloader that is unlocked, has everything to do with the amount of interference the phone puts out... Although i suppose that if we have an unlocked bootloader we can mod the radio firmware, but that in all seriousness should not affect the interference that the radio puts out. After flashing wayyy too many radios with my fuze and not noticing any difference sitting next to a 20 year old vacuum tube stereo amp regardless of the radio though, I do fail to see how this fcc notice pertains to anything of any value
[Atrix 4G General] diedemus:
I quoted the whole statement, the first portion is what was of importance. But good job on doing the research to see what it was referencing.
[Atrix 4G General] drock212:
You're right it wasn't meant specifically for cell phones but there is written into it rules for wireless handsets. Below is where they mention it.

•In addition to the safe harbors and exemptions the statute explicitly provides, 17 U.S.C. 1201(a)(1) requires that the Librarian of Congress issue exemptions from the prohibition against circumvention of access-control technology. Exemptions are granted when it is shown that access-control technology has had a substantial adverse effect on the ability of people to make non-infringing uses of copyrighted works.

•Computer programs that enable wireless telephone handsets to execute software applications, where circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of enabling interoperability of such applications, when they have been lawfully obtained, with computer programs on the telephone handset. (A new exemption in 2010.) Computer programs, in the form of firmware or software, that enable used wireless telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telecommunications network, when circumvention is initiated by the owner of the copy of the computer program solely in order to connect to a wireless telecommunications network and access to the network is authorized by the operator of the network. (Revised from a similar exemption approved in 2006.)

In other words is allows us run programs to enable phone handsets to execute software applications ie. Jailbreaking or ROM's, and it also lets us run computer programs that enable used wireless telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telecommunications network with the permission of the network owner (ie. Sim card and 2 year contract)

This is a battle I strongly believe is worth fighting for because it wouldn't only apply to the Atrix but it would apply to all cell phones.
[Atrix 4G General] jkurl:
God give it a rest in govt regs and what they say. I work for the govt and can tell you there are things hidden all the time in these cfrs.

Now when I made my complaint I made the same argument that I own the device but I couldn't administer it and I also made it about all companies and this practice. I even hit on the fact that carriers make us have a separate data plan for WiFi hotspot. I pay for a data plan I should be able to us it how I want it. As for the phones we have every right to change what we want, but I expect Motorola to not honor the warranty. I am fine w/ that as I took that chance.

Please submit you complaints and show these companies we are sick of their bull****.
[Atrix 4G General] daysyang:
there are 3million+ ppl registered xda member pls sign and help unlock bootloaders get the word out.
[Atrix 4G General] peacekeeper05:
Think this will not happen Goodluck though...
[Atrix 4G General] drock212:
Its better to try than to sit back and do nothing :-) and I think this, complaints to BBB, and the petition are a very good way to go at this
[Atrix 4G General] xfinrodx:
+1

You are assured you can't do something if you don't try. We've never gotten hundreds (thousands) of BBB, grouble etc. complaints and signed letters out there with a common goal of unlocking bootloaders like this. It puts pressure on the higher ups at a company to grab their attention using consumer oriented companies and organizations. Motorola and AT&T won't care if a couple thousand people are ticked. A couple thousand BBB & FTC complaints might make news, which would definitely grab their attention.

We should all do this and ask all we can to do it as well, should they have any interest in bettering their phones. There has to be more than a couple Motorola users outside of the Atrix who might be willing to get on board for the blanket revocation of totally locked bootloaders...
[Atrix 4G General] ChongoDroid:
It can't hurt... I mean their has to be some way for super users to actually use their phone. Great hardware seriously I don't wanna give this phone up. I'm sure it'll keep me going for a while but this is ridiculous.

Sent from my Motorola Olympus
[Atrix 4G General] _Dennis_:
What I submitted:

I purchased a cell phone from wireless.amazon.com. The purchase went well and I enjoy the cell phone, nothing is physically broken or not working, the phone arrived in a reasonable amount of time. One problem exists with this cell phone, and after research with most Motorola cell phones. The problem is that Motorola only leases the phone software to you, and does not allow you to use other software or to modify the software much. I purchased the phone and would like to change the software (the OS or ROM) and Motorola has locked the phone in such a way as to make it impossible to change the operating system. They have encrypted certain parts of the software (the boot loader) and forced a verification system to ensure that only their operating system in installed. I would like to have this unlocked and be able to put custom built operating system on the phone. The operating system on the phone is Android by Google, and this is open source and free to download and change. I would like to download and change the operating system allowing myself to have features implemented in the newest version of Android OS (the new copy and paste system is very nice, as as the VoIP functions built in) and to get rid of software that came with the phone (Motoblur is nice but it slows down the phone). I feel I paid for the device and so I should be allowed to do as I want, since I paid for both the hardware and the software if I want to remove the software on the phone, or remove parts of the software on the phone I should be allowed to. If I am only leasing the device or renting it then they should not have a "Purchase" price as I have not purchased the phone. Motorola also has said they are "working closely with our partners to offer a bootloader solution that will enable developers to use our devices as a development platform while still protecting our users interests. More detailed information will follow as we get closer to availability." (http:www.facebook.comnote.php?note_id=495971028278) and while I understand sometimes software changes take time, they put this up and have yet to show any progress. This would make me feel they are lying to me if they do not provide an unencrypted boot loader. I would like to get assurances that they do intend to have an decryption solution and I would like to get a rough idea as to when they feel this could be accomplished.
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
Has anyone ever actually thought this over? Who is Motorola selling THOUSANDS of phones to? Us, or At&t? The answer is At&t. They are are technically the customers, not us.

At&t requests to have this done for one reason: control. At&t wants control over their phone they are selling. It's Motorola AND At&t. Not just Motorola.
[Atrix 4G General] Mattix724:
Unlock the Kyocera boot loaders!
[Atrix 4G General] jkurl:
that is why I made my complaint about all cell phone companies and carriers.
[Atrix 4G General] Khoops66:
Think we should keep the techy jargon down when filing a complaint? ex. bootloader, etc. . .
[Atrix 4G General] _Dennis_:
I agree but I felt if Motorola tells the FTC they can not do anything because AT&T forced them to lock the bootloader then the FTC would look into AT&T anyway.
[Atrix 4G General] _Dennis_:
You can only keep it out so much. The complaint we have is that the bootloader is locked and encrypted meaning we can not do what we want with the phone (ROMs etc.) and so it is necessary to explain why this is.

As long as you explain what would be accomplished by unlocking the bootloader, then even if the FTC person foes not know what a bootloader is they can still understand the end result.
[Atrix 4G General] G-Man.:
and without US - AT&T would not be selling THOUSANDS of phones...... Think about it a little more.... No us, No AT&T... The customers are what makes AT&T's business with motorola possible.
[Atrix 4G General] wirednix:
I signed the petition... everyone should do the same. I got 12 (out of 30 - Costco) days before returning my Atrix. :-/
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
And that is why I say "technically"
[Atrix 4G General] HungryEel:
Could we have a anti motorola locked bootloader thing going on facebook instead of online petition?
[Atrix 4G General] drock212:
The entire idea of this is more to unlock the bootloader for all phones from all companies not just motorola. Kinda of a freedom fight for all end users not just us using Moto :-) But yes every venue that we can express our strong user dissatisfaction as a community is good.
[Atrix 4G General] ikenley:
I would love to see a someone start up a facebook group for the bootloader. Groubal's keeping me busy enough at the moment and my day job isn't a walk in the park either.

If someone wants to get it going. Let me know and I can link it to my petition.

It's an untapped resource at the moment.

http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
[Atrix 4G General] cegna09:
i suggest you all go take a look at this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1020516

which links to this post on another forum.

http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013

you will not see motorola unlock the bootloader, not even if the whole of it's user base signs a petition. It's just how the android world is turning.
[General Questions and Answers] valv507:
I am looking to upgrade my trusty ole BB 9700.

I would like an Android phone but I love the "downward" keyboard Blackberry style, not the side sliders (like HTC G2, MyTouch4g, etc).

Technically a Dell Venue Pro or a Blackberry Torch would work but no Android there, and the Motorola Droid Pro is CDMA only (correct ?).

I need it to be compatible with TMobile US also so I can get 3g or 4g data.

What's out there ?
[General Questions and Answers] Purple Drama Llama:
You can buy the world edition of the Droid pro. Otherwise, the only other one I know of is the Motorola Charm. ;)