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[Nexus S General] swamp goblin:
Well im not making any promises, but i have multiple sense roms booting on the ns4g, so i dont see why we couldnt get them on the gsm nexus :)
[Nexus S General] Nerd019:
ill be the tester :) if you have anythinv by today or tomorrow ill test it out ;).
[Nexus S General] swamp goblin:
I prolly wont have anything today, im working on a release for ns4g. I will be in touch with you guys tho :)
[Nexus S General] Nerd019:
send me a pm :) in fact how do you get 3G or data to work good.I can maybe fix it.
[Nexus S General] loudaccord:
a sweet port would be the Runny 3.5 by Newt. I used that on my Inc2 and it flew
[Nexus S General] ljordan2:
I would love to use sense on my nexus s.
[Nexus S General] MaXmeOliver:
Would looove Sense *subscribing*
[Nexus S General] bryuliro:
yyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssss thank you SENSE!

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[Nexus S General] ilnanny:
good luck

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[Nexus S General] bartjuhhbartyow:
I love seennsseee:)
[Nexus S General] bryuliro:
i wannnt! :D
[Nexus S General] ilnanny:
new update?

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[Nexus S General] bartjuhhbartyow:
i hope so:D
[Nexus S General] bryuliro:
anything??
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
Its not illegal, if it was so many devs would be in jail. For some reason the NS devs don't seem to find these ports interesting. I guess they think stock gingerbread is the best rom out.
[Nexus S General] liorry:
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[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
FYI I've heard tell of a few of the awesome Epic 4G devs I used to know thinking about switching to the Nexus S 4G. Some of them might be interested in working on a Touchwiz port so don't lose all hope.
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
That is definitely great news. I hope they can help us out. I am looking forward to trying out something rather than the traditional Stock Gingerbread.
[Nexus S General] :
Am really starting to give up hope now, probably gonna buy a g2 to give me that sense fix to run along side my nexus s;(

JD
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
I lost all hope...I will probably put my nexus on craigslist.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Don't lose hope yet man
[Nexus S General] :
Keeping strong Kenvan,

Hoping that the SLCD and the 4g versions released will bring some much needed dev attention, if not, then we have a beautiful magnificent phone which can't do too much:(

Must admit I'm starting to think sell now too:(( it will put some money towards the evo 3d;)

JD

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[Nexus S General] phillevy:
I'm sorry but it is beyond belief to me that someone could get a Nexus S knowing what type of device it is and then ditch it because it hasn't got a branded skin. I replaced my HTC Hero with the NS to be free of Sense.
[Nexus S General] dolby71:
Yea, but keep in mind that Sense on the Hero is terrible. It's too slow.

I had the HTC Hero, the Nexus S, and now I have the Desire Z, and it is brilliant.
[Nexus S General] wuyanks:
here's to hoping the next Nexus phone will be picked up by the devs then...

i think i'm going to give the Nexus another month, then off to craigslist/swappa it goes! i love the phone, but what's the fun if there's no development for it?
[Nexus S General] SA-07:
Hi,

I am also willing to test any roms or kernels, etc. Can you just keep me updated on any new releases and ill give it a quick flash and provide feedback?

Thanks!
[Nexus S General] Jrbourque:
Well a friend of mine pointed me to this thread http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5626300&postcount=3 which i started to read and i have my kitchen set up for the most part but gonna stop for the night and will hopefully get back to it soon and see what we can do to get some other roms on nexus s
[Nexus S General] phillevy:
I've seen Sense on the Desire HD so I know what I'm missing - sure it would be a novel option for some on the NS but I can't understand not having it being a reason to ditch the phone altogether.
[Nexus S General] :
Its not, the not having sense...

Its the total lack of ROMs other than stock. With ANY phone I buy, I buy it with the mindset that there will be a variety of custom ROMs ported for us... I also thought a phone with an unlocked architecture would be like a dry sponge for soaking up ported ROMs and for some real good dev work. None of these things have come to reality, I have come to understand that their are three dev phones, the n1, hd2 and the desire z. The dev support for these phones are fantastic... All there is in the Dev section of the nexus s is regurgitated stock and CM7 ROMs.

I love this phone, but its nothing without a fully functioning dev community, and at the moment its non existent....

So I hope that answers your question dude!

JD

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[Nexus S General] phillevy:
I think this frustration is likely to continue as the variety of new Android devices seems to increase exponentially. There are simply now too many devices competing for dev attention. Devices released 6 months ago didn't have quite the same competition. Going forward with new devices I think the NS isn't doing that badly and there is a reasonable list of ROM's and Kernels to choose from including MIUI. Meanwhile the LG Optimus 2x has only one solid developer on board so far and I will be surprised if this increases to anywhere near the level of support the NS has now.
[Nexus S General] :
I think most devs seem to choose HTC devices to tinker with. This is why I may sell my NS and buy a HD2 until the evo 3d hits Europe:)

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[Nexus S General] phillevy:
I think this will all change with the newer HTC phones as there will be so much more to entice the developers than there was - LG, Sony, Samsung and possibly Motorola as well as all the tablets. Also I suspect HTC will make it increasingly harder to hack there devices. What stood for last years HTC's will be quite different for their new products as the playing field is so different. Also ironically most of the best ROM's for the Hero were Vanilla!
[Nexus S General] :
They are already doing that with signed bootloaders;(

But we will still be able to flash custom roms;)

i have owned a htc desire, n1, desire hd, desire z, and a nexus s, and the best phone by far, considering everything was the Desire z;)

JD
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
I think the issue with the NS lacking large dev support is because its hardware really isn't anything new and exciting. If this hardware came out a year ago devs would be all over it. As far as hardware is concerned, its basically a Galaxy S with a NFC chip and curved display (which is a gimmick).

I think potential devs / buyers probably thought why buy the NS when its basically a Vibrant. The N1 has a larger dev community not just because its an older device, but at the time a 1ghz processor wasn't a standard. Now mid end lines like the Cliq 2, G2, Sidekick 4g and myTouch 4g have 800 to 1ghz processors. Yes I said mid end because everyone knows the Cliq, Sidekick 4g, myTouch and G2 (G2 is supposed to be mid end since its the successor to the G1). These phones are now high end. 1ghz is the new standard. If Google want to grab the devs the attention their next phone have to be something above single 1ghz processor, 3g, 512mb (of ram which is now standard) etc.
[Nexus S General] :
100 percent agree,

Lets hope that the Evo 3D is taken up by devs, i believe when it drops it will be sporting the most advanced hardware for an android device;)

I also like the look of the G2X but that has faded into the background since i saw the Evo 3D... It will probably be called the Desire 3D in Europe;)

JD
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
I'm personally hoping for a dual core phone with a Super Amoled, at least 720p (1080p is preferred), expandable memory and 4 inch or greater screen, 8 megapixel camera with flash. I know that means I most likely will have to stick with Samsung if I want Super Amoled. That's probably the only reason I own the NS instead of sticking with my old myTouch 4g. I think once you go Super Amoled its hard to go back. I wish HTC had Super Amoled. I love HTC build quality.
[Nexus S General] dario3040:
I still think that this is a very capable phone.

All the other 1Ghz phones are much weaker.

And the Nexus S is a Vibrant with, flash, NFC, on sprint they have 4g, also a gyroscope, also the curved display (its not a gimick :/ ), better cameras, Googles official android support,and better button design (opinion).

So it is a pretty good upgrade if you ask me.

And the GPU (SGX 540) is a much more capable GPU than the GeForce ULP, and even the Mali in Galaxy S 2 (according to benchmarks, might change in the future).

The processor is also very good.

There are no other phones on the market that can compete with the Nexus S yet. Optimus 2x comes close, but the horrible screen, the unoptimized android build that lags, many force closes, bad design with bad grip, looks ugly, cameras suck (1080p is nice though, but looks more like upscaled 480p), and its LG.

I might keep an eye out for Evo 3d (desire 3d in europe?) though.

But always HTC dissapoint me with bad speakers, heavy phones, bad touchscreens, and slow speed.

I don't think i will switch phone before something really good hits the market (Dualcore humming bird with SGX 545 multicore)
[Nexus S General] phillevy:
This is the problem - so many Android devices - nothing clear cut the best option - dev support will always be more thinly spread out as time goes by. At least the NS has the advantage of being a dependable blank canvas to work on and will always have the latest updates as a starting point.
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
Lets be honest. Would you have bought the NS if it wasn't Google's flagship phone?
[Nexus S General] phillevy:
That would be judging it on hardware alone and as any experienced Android user knows the software always trumps the hardware in the end (or it did for me).
[Nexus S General] dario3040:
Actually thats tricky to say.

I wanted a Galaxy S before the Nexus S was rumored, but i never felt like buying it.

I just thought: I will wait till google comes with the next Nexus phone.

But Android updating played a major role in my decision though.

Its at least not an optimus 2x (Scam)
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
Doesn't the Vibrant have CM7?
[Nexus S General] phillevy:
But surely N series devices are always going to be better/more stable running vanilla custom ROMs (for which the are designed to run) than ones having skinned/customised software to start with.
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
I think we both have some valid points. The Vibrant runs CM7 flawlessly and so does the myTouch 4g. I had them both running CM7. The main thing with the NS is software updates from google.
[Nexus S General] :
The NS is the best of its class, but its a class that has already been consigned to history. The dual cores have very much arrived bring a whole new game completely. The nexus s is a fantastic phone, and is still the best looking phone out there, but its has next to NO dev support and it does not look like its gonna get any better;(( It think i have made up my mind to ditch the NS in favour of the G2X or the Evo 3D. These phones are the future, when we have to admit that the NS is already the past;'(

I love the NS, just wished

1. It had a bigger dev community

2. Had more ROM's to play with (links with 1)

3. Had a dual core hummingbird

But number 1 for me is the most strongest argument for moving on from this phone, the dev community is everything to an android phone... For example, the HD2 would be consigned to the ranks of "dated WM6.5 phone" and thrown to the archives, but instead its known to be one of the most versatile phones out there, (mainly due to the windows users wanting android instead of WM6.5).

Im sure there will be a guy that comes on here soon and does not even read the arguments and just says "Nexus S is the best phone", "If you wanted Sense go buy a HTC phone", "Your a troll thinking that the Nexus S isnt the best thing since sliced bread".. lol

If you read the arguments put up you will see that ---WE LOVE--- the Nexus S, Its just the lack of Dev is killing us..... And after having a N1 I was expecting all the N1 guys to filter over, this sadly has not come to pass as most of the N1 guys went to the G2;(

JD
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
I definitely agree. The lack of dev is killing me. Especially coming from the myTouch 4g and G2 which had so many different ports. It was definitely exciting. I hope Ice Cream is around the corner.
[Nexus S General] :
Yep;)

Ice Cream and some good and worthwhile ports

JD
[Nexus S General] Bikers:
I think dev's are not atracted by this phone because they don't have what to do. we have 2.3.3, wifi, 3g, gps and all the stuff works without problems. so there is not much to do for this phone, unless a new android comes out. I came from HTC tattoo and I waited for about an year to have a fully working camera on 2.* roms and after this devs lost their interest.

others try to obtain a clean android or port a newer version. the only things that a dev can do for this phone are 720p recording and fm radio.I still love this phone and I will keep it for another year, because I can't affort another one right now.
[Nexus S General] doniqcc:
Who cares about sense are you guys serious with this thread I don't get how this thread it's still here. Sense has the worst layout ever it doesn't even feel like android other phones trying to copy nexus s and you guys want sense? Huh seriously? Come on take this thread down there's lots of nice roms for ns we just need more themers and honeycomb ports you always look what's in front of you not behind you
[Nexus S General] phillevy:
The arguments in this thread are really bizare - I'm all for innovation and choice with ROM development, but it has to have purpose - not just for the sake of it. It is a very valid point that the NS doesn't need to be modified/fixed to the extent of branded phones with all their interface quirks and goes towards explaining the smaller choice. Saying that I've had plenty to keep myself occupied in the month or so I've had the NS with a good (if not huge) choice of ROMs/kernels to play with as well as the amazing voodoo sound hack. I'm looking forward to staying on the cutting edge of software for some time to come with this phone, whilst devices with superior hardware are stuck with 2.2 (unless they go vanilla as well).

@JupiterDroid you say you prefered the Desire Z, but you seem to have gone through quite a few phones - are you just a hard customer to satisfy? You also talk about wanting dual core and more choices of ROM - what will this actually achieve for you other than being able to play around? Most of us whilst enjoying the flexibility of Android just want our phones to work well at what they do - not just change for changes sake. Your description of the NS being consigned to history reveals to us your mindset and why you seem to have changed your phone so much - with respect I don't think the majority see the NS in this light even if they don't like the phone itself.
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
Please name the "lots of nice roms for the NS"? The main reason "people copy the NS" is because isn't Android open source? Isn't rom ports a normal thing to do in the Android community?

I value your opinion. Remember no opinion is a wrong one.
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
Why are you even in the dev section? Your attitude definitely belongs in general...I agree with the sense having the worse layout ever, followed by vanilla android. Still though, this is what makes or breaks the dev section. It goes farther than just having different roms to chose from, it's about opening up the functionality of the phone because this phone has great hardware but limited functionality. You buy a smartphone because of what it can do, if you just wanted fast you should have gotten a dumb phone. The only thing people like about this phone is that it is fast, and they get to beta test newer versions of android. The cost of that clearly outweighs the benefit for anyone who actually uses a smartphone as it was designed which is an all purpose device.

Next time anyone uses their drop down power widget they can thank Samsung and Touchwiz for the idea...to bad people can't look at intangible benefits of a good look and feel in a user interface.
[Nexus S General] doniqcc:
I'm not judging other peoples opinion just like i have a opinion too and on of them is that porting sense and getting excited about it its stupid.a

As far as naming some nice roms out there let me start with cm7 than miui, super aosp and the list goes on just check the threads what else can you do ? And most of the roms are still beta not even a final release plus you got a choice dude put your ns for sale or trade lots of guys that have sense will love to trade their sense phone for your ns
[Nexus S General] doniqcc:
Are you dev cuz if you're not you belong on general to for speaking your opinion just like I did.

And if you are a dev why don't you port sense or built a rom.

Here we have these nice roms like miui and cm7 with lots of cool features and you're telling me to go back to sense or vanilla the reason I posted my opinion here its cuz people talk to much and they don't do nothing abot it and I'm tired everytime I click under development I see threads like this one instead of seeing new roms
[Nexus S General] phillevy:
I seem to remember very clearly how not so long ago many of us were happy to ditch our feature rich branded interfaces just to get a fix of 2.2 because HTC left us behind - this was a clear indication what peoples real priorities were - development is not just about changing the interface - having an up to date operating system takes most presidence and this is what the NS is about.
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
I never claimed to like sense even though I do. My argument was always about custom roms/ports that did not look like the traditional GINGERBREAD that we are all used to. Miui and Aosp are definitely a different feel. In fact I've been using Aosp for about 2 weeks now. In my opinion its a million times faster and sexier than stock GB.
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
If your asking have I made something then yes I have. I have said this before and was called arrogant for it, dev's either don't want to, or don't have the knowledge to do it...myself included obviously or it would have been done by now. I'm not telling you to do anything except maybe stfu cause your opinion shouldn't dictate what everyone else has access to. Who do you think you are the Steve Jobs of the Nexus S? CM7 takes features from sense and touchwiz and uses them in an AOSP rom because that is what they want to do. MIUI is a skin much like touchwiz or senseui on top of CM7 for people who like the look and feel of the iphone. You see threads like this because the users want new roms and they want to see new roms, which makes your last sentence kind of laughable.
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
I definitely agree with your statement, but please lets not have a heated discussion. I know its upsetting because we all have our different opinions and think ours is better than the next man.

FOR THE RECORD I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE PORTS AND THEMED ROMS. STOCK GINGERBREAD IS GETTING A LITTLE BORING. LETS BE HONEST, MOST OF US ASSUMED BY PURCHASING THE NS WE WERE GUARANTEED CUSTOM ROMS.
[Nexus S General] doniqcc:
I'm just curious what has cm taken from sense ?
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
Yes now we get to use our old feature rich devices to get a fix of what a smartphone is supposed to be like. The most up to date is laughable when it lacks functionality, this is where the world is obviously playing a huge joke on me. you want the most up to date when it lacks functionality really? You people can't be serious with this. When did the android community turn into apple fanboi's?
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
http://androidactivist.com/opinion/why-manufacture-uis-are-not-so-bad/
[Nexus S General] phillevy:
Apple? I think not. I love adding functionality to my phone, but I have a clear picture as to what is worthwhile and what isn't. For example, Supercurio has added real functionality to the NS in my opinion and better than 10 ROMs with varying interfaces. I really can't see what functionality you are missing. I'm a total Android geek and have spent many hours flashing and modding - I just know now what is truly useful and what is dead weight - Sense (the thread topic being discussed) and similar enhancements IMO add nothing that I feel beneficial.
[Nexus S General] doniqcc:
Dude you're serious this article don't make sense just like you show me cm rom that has sense in it even the pull down feature it's something that people requested actually other dev take **** from cm and if you're really dev you will take **** from cm what have you done show me some of your work.

You're one of those guys that has htc sense and can't wait to get cm7 on your sense.

Just go see some of the htc sense threads they're pissing themselves cuz cm7 and miui ported get the hell out of here with these sense roms not to mention I forgot you need a car battery to run sense and jumper cables just in case you get stuck on the road lmao lol get this stupid thread down and lets donate to devs to bring some real roms not that battery sucker sense ui.

Nothing personal dude but let the truth be told
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
So we have one dev that has pushed the limits of the phone...great. Nice opinion too, so what about that opinion makes it worthy of telling everyone to stfu about wanting more? Oh and Apple yes, being fine with what they offer you and then being a blind fanboi even when you know something offers more benefit. That is classic iphone fanboiism...

I hate sense, there is no android UI I hate more than sense. I had a MT4G for 3 days got rid of sense with CM and still didn't like it so I returned it. The only reason I have this phone over the MT4G is because of the screen and supercurio development. I like Touchwiz because it has video codecs and a better look and feel than any other overlay.

Your posts are irrelevant and anyone arguing against more development goes against the spirit of this forum, why your even here is without sense.

I have an app on the market and some in development, and I've had battery mods added to roms and made other battery mods to go with that rom. I've made a theme and am now creating one for the Nexus. Regardless of my experience your a noob that has offered nothing substantial that acts like a know it all. In the future I look forward to not seeing your posts anymore as you are getting blocked as nothing more than a nuisance to me and the community.
[Nexus S General] phillevy:
Your total misjudgment of me makes your credibility all the more questionable - pray enlighten me as to what benefits I'm blind to as that would be far more articulate and productive in this discussion than your completely off the mark iPhone fanboi rantings. I hate the things!
[Nexus S General] OuncE718:
I definitely look forward to you bring some of those battery mods, etc to the NS. I don't know why some people think the NS should be limited to just one rom when its made to be a DEVELOPERS DREAM.
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
It has nothing to do with the actual phone it's the mindset of anti-development because this is what your given and all you should want.
[Nexus S General] j0hnZ:
They are in the app's and theme's section but they are for the Axura rom which is discontinued. I am making a theme chooser theme for CM7 right now. http://onthejohn.net/simplecyan1.png

http://onthejohn.net/simplecyan2.png
[Nexus S General] :
Best and most truest comment on XDA have heard since coming to these horrible nexus s forums from the n1 forums....

This forum is full of noobs too highly strung and protective over their phone

The anti dev propaganda here is probably what's keeping the devs away....

Don't you want choice? I definitely do!

JD

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