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[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
You mean you actually need to connect to devices? haha I think i know what the problem is - I should have a fixed version out today. thanks for the report!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raziel36:
Sweet, I was coming here to report the same issue. I needz Bluetooth in mah car! :P anxiously awaiting update! Thank you for the hard work. You are amazing!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] inline6power:
you are the man bud. ran your kernels from day one and they are performing better than any other at the molment for my phone. using the 1.9x and oc clock to 1.9 is super stable on my phone. put min max to 1.9 and ran quads in interactive and getting above 3k. running it at 15 max now and loving it. thank you for your hard work buddy. appreciate it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pinhead875:
Your battsaver aosp kernel was the first data I used when I got my 4geez back just now. :D Thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Odd, i just tried what I thought would fix the BT problem on the CM7 kernel and it didn't work. Did the stock CM7 kernel work on connecting to BT devices?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raziel36:
I did not drive during the time I was on stock CM7, so I can't say. Hope it worked, as I'm sure that would help you narrow down the problem.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pinhead875:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1011497

This looks like a pretty good app to see how long the CPU stays in each frequency. I'm using it with your battsaver aosp kernel.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] inline6power:
Stock connects and so does ukanto kernels. Can't connect with yours but everthing else works great

Sent from my rooted Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
I think I fixed it: can you test it real quick?

http://cl.ly/6Ju6

EDIT: inline6power - if you can test as well i'd appreciate it!

thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] inline6power:
This works. Your fix is confirmed

Sent from my rooted Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BSDADON:
Battsaver 1.2.3 was randomly rebooting for me. I reverted back to 1.11 and everything's fine now. Anyone else experience the same thing?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
v1.2.5AOSPbeta on the first post. Fixes BT issues.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raziel36:
Sorry about the test.. I was messing with themes lol.. I can confirm now that the 1.2.5AOSPbeta 1.92 kernel works great with Bluetooth now :) You are the best! I love you.. in a platonic way, of course.

Also, it's nice to not have to deal with the "mono" sound issue of the headphone jack. Was hating having to record a video or use voice search every time I got into the car.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
PM me? Let's figure out what's going on.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BSDADON:
Will do.

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[Thunderbolt Android Development] BurnOne77:
1.2.3 normal on BAMF 1.5 remix is perfection for me. The little custom 1.2ghz stock voltage slot makes it even better man. You rock !
[Thunderbolt Android Development] AndroidGraphix:
Governor description thanks

Thank you for explaining in detail everything. It certainly helps when deciding on a kernel. I just flashed your Extremem on TB with Lightning ROM. Look forward to the outcome. I'm also going to flash swap, which sounds very new and very high tech. Thanks again.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] y2ktibltd:
Any chance of you making a 1.92 NOT extreme for AOSP? Your 1.92X ran great on BAMF 1.5 for my phone but for some reason your 1.92X AOSP on CM7 reboots every couple of minutes. I am currently using your 1.4X on CM7 without issue. Also I would love if you would include the performance governor again just for benchmarking. Thanks again for all of your work!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] AndroidGraphix:
I just flashed swap. I'm a noob so please explain if I there's anything more I need to do when I flash that file. I'm running, Smartass with your Extreme Kernel. On your webpage: http://www.imoseyon.com/2011/04/why-swap.html you say, "But setting up swap alone isn't going to do much. In fact, it could do more harm than good. You'd also want to adjust some OS/kernel related settings so your phone/device can use swap effectively.

You want to primarily look at two settings: vm.swappiness and minfree."

I'm not familiar with any of this..yet. Are these steps required when using your Kernel and settings I've mentioned?

Thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Here's 1.92: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1485808/imoseyon_leanKernel_1.92_v1.2.7AOSPtest.zip

Try it and let me know if the reboots stop? As for performance governor, you should just be able to use setcpu to set min/max to 1.92 and run your benchmark.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
As long as you're running my kernel and the enableswap zip was flashed on top, you should be good to go. No more tweaking needed.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] y2ktibltd:
So far so good. I've been browsing, texting and running benchmarks with no issue reboots or lookups. In fact I swear it seems like GPS locked faster on this kernel as well.

All benchmarks performed at 1.92 min/max...

64.24 in linpack (best of 3 runs)

2995 in quadrant (best of 2 runs)

1902/2508 in smartbench 2010 (best of 2 runs)

sunspider 0.9.1 2379.5ms!!

Just out of curiosity, what makes this kernel version 1.2.7?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Cubs2008:
1.4 extreme on Bamf 1.5 remix is awesome for me. I get really great battery life (unless Google Maps Locator Service runs...then it eats battery life for breakfast, lunch and dinner.) Once that service isn't running I can go at least 12 hours on stock battery on LTE Mode (always in a 4G area.)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] corenojoe:
Downloaded enableswap and flashed, didn't work, when I run: bash /data/ imoseyon/checkimosey.sh in terminal emulator I get "bash not found"

I'm gonna reflash and run it again .

PS I'm running battsaver 1.2.3

**edit** yep reflashed still nothing, any ideas?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] corenojoe:
OK got it, I had to flash the larger file from the link you posted to your website and flashed the command in terminal emulator and it worked!

New question : since there is a link to disable swap is that necessary when switching kernels? Or will in not effect anything? Also, if I switched to another one of your kernels would I have to redo the flash or would it just continue to work?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DRGilroy:
I've been testing out the Kernels since 1.11. I couldn't get 1.92x to run on my phone unfortunately but was able to run extreme. I had installed the latest extreme 1.2.3 and yesterday my phones battery was draining fairly quickly and it was not charging as fast. I had checked SetCPU and found the cpu clock stuck at 1.4. I performed a reboot and all was good after that. I haven't experienced any other problems on extreme before and this is the first problem I've had. I love the work that's been done and will post any information if I have another occurrence.

I'm on BAMF 1.5
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
The only risk you'll run into is that the swap will be disabled when you switch kernels. Also the tweak zip is no longer necessary when you run my kernels.

I've been trying to track down this rare bug for a long while. I can't seem to reproduce it, nor have i seen it myself in the past few releases. :( But yeah reboot seems to clear it.

There's very little difference between 1.2.5AOSP and 1.2.7AOSP - been messing with the wifi code a little in between those two.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] azturbomini:
Same thing happened to me this morning on Normal v1.2.3. Rebooted the phone and all is good. Have no clue what made it happen. I checked running services and found nothing out of the ordinary. Weird...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
I'm having issues getting the USB Mount screen to popup on the AOSP kernels (1.4x/1.9x). I don't know if this is your kernel or if it's Test4(3) of CM7. I will report back when I determine which one but it may take some time - in a crunch at work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BennyJr:
Ok so i downloaded the extreme kernal...do i need to apply the zip? Ive got the newest one..

Thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
haha sorry i wasn't clear. The enable swap zip is still necessary. There are some of my kernel tweak zips floating out there which are no longer necessary when you are running one of my kernels.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
FYI, my phone is loving your AOSP UV kernels but for some reason I can't keep InteractiveX stable but I can keep Smartass stable at 1.9. 1.7 is stable on InteractiveX, though. Am running CM7 Test4(3) and your latest 1.9x kernel.

Any idea why one governor is stable and the other isn't for me? I'm not necessarily expecting this to be a kernel bug, just trying to understand things better so I am better-able to help.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
Imoseyon, I'm running 1.11 extreme and it's been amazing as far as stability/battery is concerned. I was thinking of trying 1.2.3, but I'm kind of confused about this whole swap zip. I read the description on your website, what I don't understand is if flashing the swap is a necessity or just an extra. Also, what exactly should one expect after flashing the swap? Faster, more battery, better stability? I apologize if this has been asked, I went back about 10-15 pages and didn't see anything
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BennyJr:
I flashed the swap zip..the bigger one on ur site, but when i try to see if it works in the terminal emulator it says its not found....are there other commands u gotta time in before u type the command on ur site in? I haven't used Terminal emulator in a while lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
minor CM7 kernel release

v1.2.8AOSPbeta (4/29/11) - new ramdisk content from slayher (test4), slight VDD tweak for stability and slight wifi driver tweak.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
iX tends to ramp up quickly in speed so if your phone is unstable at 1.92 it's more likely to cause issues. It also locks itself at the lowest speed when sleeping so if your phone doesn't like extreme undervolting at the speed it will also crash. Give 1.2.8 a try (if you're running CM7 that is)?

swap is completely optional and the jury is still out whether it helps or hurts. I personally believe it will help if you tune it properly and my kernel will do that for you. It virtually extends the size of your RAM. http://www.imoseyon.com/2011/04/why-swap.html

On my website the zip is not for swap - it's actually for doing kernel tweaks. You want to use the zip from the first post of this thread. No need to type any commands.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
1.92 min/max on Smartass is stable, even. Perhaps there's just some type of ramping up that my phone doesn't like. The locked speed/voltage seems to be fine. (am churning through Quadrants trying to get 3k as you suggested on Twitter)

I'll give 1.2.8 a shot and see how it acts.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BennyJr:
gotcha thanks buddy. keep up the good work. will donate soon :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] AndroidGraphix:
I've been running this phone for three hours and i've only dropped to 94%! Wow. This extreme kernel is amazing.

Sent from Verizon in Phoenix, AZ, running a rooted Thunderbolt, with Lightning Rom v3.3.1 /

Minimalistic Extreme Kernel
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sublimaze:
imoseyon, thanks for your incredible work. is max speed the only difference between extreme & battsaver?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Yeah basically extreme is exactly the same as battsaver until 1Ghz, then it's got two more slots at 1.2 and 1.4. You might be wondering why don't I just release one kernel and have folks just limit the top speed via setcpu? I often wonder the same. ;) The bottom line is that setcpu kicks in after the phone boots all the way so some phones may not even boot if they're not good with overclocking.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dragonsportbikes:
Swap or No Swap

Ok Team,need a little help here.

I been using Lightning Rom 3.3 with Bamf 4.4.1 Kernel and ive been super happy with performance / batt thus far. In fact I have tweaked it so much i am getting about 20hours on stock battery with moderate use. (I have alot of other tweaks ive done so I dont think its just the kernel) PM me and i will gladly share / post my settings as I have spent alot of time on it.

Reason for my post is that Ive been reading alot of great feedback about the Lean Kernel so I want to try it out and compare. I just flashed Extreme (newest version as of 4.27) and im currently charging to full batt so im ready to test.

My question is on gthe swap. Should I or should I not do the Swap file? I know its optional and basically I am just looking for the best batt / performance combo. Im at 1222mhz (interactivex) and my quadrants are 2500+ so im good with perf. I just need to know what our take is on whether I should flash the swap file.If is gives more performance without sacrificing battery then Im totally up for it. But if i have to sacrifice battery then forget it cause im happy with my perf as I sit now.

So what do you guys think? Swap or no Swap.

P.S. alwasy looking to return the favor so if anyone needs help, is stuck as a noobee, or wants some battery tweak ideas. Hit me up.

Thanks all!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
Imoseyon: For Tesla Coil, would you recommend the AOSP kernel or Sense? Thanks man.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
The AOSP one won't work since Tesla Coil is a Sense-based ROM.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Trevlo:
I just flashed ur newest 1.92x kernel and it has locked up twice today. Just figured I'd give ya a heads up :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
What governor were you using? I've had some issues with the InteractiveX but none whatsoever with Smartass.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Yup that's correct. For now, AOSP kernel for CM7 Alpha only, and Sense kernels for everything else.

Try 1.92 instead?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Ubermicro13:
Using extreme on CM7 and its perfect. Ultra smooth and great battery life! Well done!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Trevlo:
I was using interactiveX. Now I have it set to ondemandX. Which is best? Smartass?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
Personally, I prefer Smartass buy Imoseyon prefers InteractiveX. It all depends on what you want and what is acceptable to you. Given how bad our battery life is, I prefer to conserve power as much as I can rather than having immediate performance. But that's just me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BurnOne77:
I have 14 hours on interactivex with 15% left. Moderate use 4g for the last 8 hours. Few calls some texts, played drag racing for a few....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] maizekidstill81:
Interactivex has been best for me on battery life. I can actually go all day without having to charge my phone. Thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
Really? Good to know. My understanding of the theory is that Smartass should be better but perhaps he hasn't tweaked it as much yet in this kernel.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] drago34:
Battsaver 1.2.3 ran super hot so went back to 1.1. Thanks so much for the hard work!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dragonsportbikes:
Team anybody got an answer or their take on the above. Swap or no swap?

Sent from my Rooted BAMF Certified Thunderbolt LR 3.3 / Imoseyon Exteme 1.2.3 / Blue Epidemic theme
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
Imoseyon already answered this question. We don't know if you should use swap or not. I personally don't since we have so much ram but that may change as Android grows into Ice Cream and Jelly Bean.

Here's Imoseyon's quote:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dragonsportbikes:
Thanks for the info. I did read the OP. What i was asking in my post is for an opinion from folks that have used it. I am currenty not running swap and getting decent perf. I was just looking to see if anybody thought they had a gain from using swap. Looks like it is really option and no significant gains have been reported.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] newtsevo:
I flashed the swap file and it seems like my boot up times are quicker. Is there a way to check if it took? I read his swap post to see if there was a term command I can run but didn't see one or I'm blind. Anyone point me in the right direction?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaxidian:
If you're looking for opinions, then the best you're going to get are "some people think it helps, some people don't". I'm of the camp that it doesn't (for now) but at some point when we start putting more strain on Android, then perhaps it will. Also, if you're running Sense, then I suspect it will help more than if you're running AOSP. I'm on AOSP right now, so if you're running Sense, my current opinion may not matter much to you. :-)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
re: swap

My best advice regarding swap is to try it for yourself and see if you like it or not. It's easy to enable and disable using the zips i provided in the first post.

One thing it will definitely do is to allow more apps to stay in memory, so if you're switching between apps often you should see some improvement. You probably won't see its true benefit until you kept the phone running for over a day or two.

Unfortunately for me I can't keep my phone running that long. I usually test a new version of my kernel once or twice a day so i have to reboot at least once a day. And I only have one tbolt. :) Try it! most likely it won't hurt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
Type this command: free

If you see a non-zero number under Swap total then it's active.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] azturbomini:
I have been running the swap file since day one before I downloaded your first kernel. Having said that I'm not sure if it's helped or not. (Hasn't hurt) I guess I could disable and see...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dragonsportbikes:
Thanks man. I will possibly give it a try later

Sent from my Rooted BAMF Certified Thunderbolt LR 3.3 / Imoseyon Exteme 1.2.3 / Blue Epidemic theme
[Thunderbolt Android Development] AndroidGraphix:
Lag time

I've been using your Normal Kernel for a couple days now. I had installed the swap.zip file yesterday. I ran it all day long. There's a huge lag time for me and running applications. Again, I'm on the Normal Kernel OC to 1.4mhz. I do great on quadrant but normal application, going in and out, there's usually a delay.

Today, I decided to remove swap and my phone seems to be running much faster. I haven't tried a quadrant yet, but I have noticed applications are opening and closing much faster including the drop down menu.

Any idea what could have caused this? Did I flash the wrong swap. zip file. I flashed it through CWM. Was I supposed to clear any cache prior to flashing zip?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
I flashed 1.2.3 extreme and enabled swap at 11:00 this morning with 42% battery after rebooting. Was on the golf course all day, with 3G, GPS and 100% screen on using SkyDroid for all 18 holes, sending a few texts and reading a half a dozen emails. 7 hours later I'm still at 40% battery. This is by far the best life I've ever had. I didn't think it was possible to improve on 1.11 extreme, but you out did yourself again. Thank you, Imoseyon!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
Hey imoseyon, I just flashed bamf 1.6 and everything seems great. just wondering what I/O scheduler to pick? Does it matter?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
If you're running my kernel I think the only option you have is Deadline. All those I/O schedulers will perform about the same on these flash memory devices.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JonKyu:
Thanks lol, wasn't too sure.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kingkongsmith:
By enabling swap , u mean flashing it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
Yes
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kingkongsmith:
Thanks...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Forgetfull:
I hope you make kernels for every phone I get in the future, that way I never have to try any others. Seriously, I've flashed almost everyone's for the bolt and have just decided to stick with these forever.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shock2sys:
I'm running the normal 1.23 kernel on my stock TB and at 1ghz it FEELS slight sluggish. when I bump it up to 1.2ghz than it feels fine. (I'm using the interactive governor)

oh yeah, in the last 24 - 48 hours I have had three random restarts. in all cases, the phone was sitting idle with the screen off. I'm also using setcpu to set the clockspeed to 1.2ghz but I'm not using any profiles.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TMYINC:
On the battsave kernel. So far so good!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DarwynZ:
Have you gone to the leaked radio update? If so.. that is most likely the cause of the reboots... not the kernel
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
Looks photo shopped to me
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pinhead875:
Bluetooth didn't work on my aosp kernel. Then I flashed the latest one and I'm good. Thanks for the update.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Zarboz:
lovin the 1.92 ghz kernel... some crashes but im not using your settings so thats prolly why .... my quadrant score was in the 2500+ range will post screenies later if you want
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
New 1.92x works great with bamf 1.6. Nice job Imoseyon!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] INSANENEIVIESIS:
really nice kernels man, getting high scores all around. thanks for the work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WillTheGreat:
Using the normal kernel clocked at 1.41ghz, and interactivex. It's definitely a lot snapper especially when I have multiple apps running. I wanted to use extreme, but I'm running the stock rom so I don't think I'm going to go too overboard.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] azturbomini:
I certainly don't see that it has? Why would you even say such a thing?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TMYINC:
Believe what you will. Just giving some props to the OP!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TMYINC:
Still going strong! Notice the hours and times coincide! lol I suck at Photoshop btw.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Imoseyon:
haha that's amazing. so this is moderate usage?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TMYINC:
Yeah moderate usage, on and off all day. Listening to music and downloading the new BAMF roms from Rom Manager. This has been using the InteractiveX governor the whole time. Gonna try out smartass out after a full charge tonight. Have to work in the morning so I can't have a dead phone lol. Half a battery gone after a full day off moderate use is pretty damn good. I can post the result of the smartass governor test if you wanna compare.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BennyJr:
Awesome results. I love this kernal. And plz do post the results. I would like to see and im sure others would too:D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] whewstoosae:
Glad you heeded my advice :)

Sent from my Thunderbolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TMYINC:
Went 1 day and 2 hours before I threw it on the charger and it still had 30% left! Loving this kernel! I enjoying overclocking but having the battery last that long for a TB is even better! My phone will be off the charger when I get up in 7 hours for work. I will check in tomorrow night and let ya know how the smartass gov did all day. Great work Imoseyon!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mallen462:
How did u get such good performance? I'm using the batt saver but I'm not getting past 10 hours
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TMYINC:
What rom are you running?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mallen462:
I was running lightning i'm just flashed to BAMF I hope get abetter performance
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TMYINC:
Yeah Im about to check it out now too. I have been running Blackhole for a bit now and it runs nice and smooth.