yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] treborks:
My SD card slot is eff-ed. The only feature I really miss is the camera.

Is there any camera app that captures directly to internal memory?

Alternatively, is there any way to make the stock camera app write to internal memory?
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] haytham-:
hi every body

this is my 1st rom and i hope u will like it

i am just finishing the icons and will upload it very soon

big thank to Mark Haynes for his big support and also for his very nice pics that i use in this rom and thank to pajerm for his advices[URL=http://hotfile.com/dl/113999727/0b9093e/RUU_Signed_0409.nbh.html]http://hotfile.com/dl/113999727/0b9093e/RUU_Signed_0409.nbh.html[/URL]

i am sorry everybody it toke long time but i had bad connection here is the link i hope u will like it and i will love to hear from u

this rom support arabic right and read and it have nice app

please tell me what u think

this rom need Adobe FlashLite 3.1 to work good
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] aidinvm_ultimate:
thanks

good news

new cooker and new rom

:)

really good news

hope to see link soon
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] mehulkarate:
YAHHH......

Me too

new cooker, cook new 6.5.5 rom for as.

best of luck
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] haytham-:
u will see the link very soon -just finishing the icons-
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] zofox:
what tipe of taskbar ( the top screen bar :)) have you used??

thanks
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] lhnzh12:
Waiting for this ROM, thanks for keeping our opal alive and kickin...
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] thestory101:
nice !!

look nice,

I do love a lite rom, I don't like a manila , it's consume a battery.

:| , if possible , please cook lite one for me.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] haytham-:
hi

hi every body i am uploading the rom now and it will be 2 roms 1 with manila and the other is without for people who like it that way

thank u so much for waiting
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aplacetorest:
if i want to make a flashable zip to make this a bootscreen, what do i do?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DooneyInThaA:
http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=652
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aplacetorest:
thank you, im sorry i posted in the wrong forum.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
If true...

http://phandroid.com/2011/04/04/developer-troubled-times-ahead-for-anyone-who-roots/

Oh and where's the tags that the mods add in on My threads about my girl blowing everyone lol I'm still waiting haaaaa update there it is
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
Oh nooooooeeessss!!!
[EVO 4G General] Jykinturah:
Sigh.

This really makes me want to just use a laptop for a phone now.

At least I can do what I want with my laptop's data connection.
[EVO 4G General] TF1984:
WTF!??

10char
[EVO 4G General] jstalford:
f*** :mad:
[EVO 4G General] drmacinyasha:
OK, this is the kinda stuff where either Google needs to get its balls back and *****-slap the carriers, or the FCC needs to actually step in to protect customers.

Either way, it's bull****. Screw Verizon and every other carrier that does this.
[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
this is me forgetting to thank you.
[EVO 4G General] lost_man10002:
+1

I will never buy a phone from a carrier that implements this crap
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
+2788786886
[EVO 4G General] trevoc1:
I agree this is total B.S.
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
No one should, the consumers run this together we can boycott any carrier who does this dictatorship bull****, I pledge I will not support any carrier who does this.

I'd rather take my evo and flash to cricket
[EVO 4G General] Ruki_Uki:
+1

This brought tears to my eyes.
[EVO 4G General] Batman58:
Eff that. I will not buy a phone like that... If I have to go back to dumbphones... Then so be it.
[EVO 4G General] mkhopper:
It will never happen. The backlash would just be too much to handle.

And if manufacturers were to begin implementing these types of lockdowns, you know for a fact that they'll just be hacked around sooner or later.

Hello? We are discussing this on XDA... Home to undoubtedly the best group of white hat device hackers I've seen.

We all assume risk when rooting our devices and given the more open nature of Android, there's always the concern that some application will start stealing your data. It's a risk I'm willing to take and I'm sure most everyone else here as well.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
Here's the problem with what you stated, the percentage of users rooted compared to non rooted, well are not even close, if they did lock out every new phone with master keys that we would never be able to figure out, well it could happen. Even if they did lose every rooted users support financially, they would still have more than 95 percent of their profiT, that's my fear, it'll hurt but not if sprint, Verizon, etc pays the difference or that kind of sort of thing. For example to make it easy, say all rooted user cause 600,000 in lost profit for sprint that they could have potentially gained, well HTC goes hey well lock the device but we want the difference from the users like us who will not purchase the phone. Anyway that's my take on it, enlighten me with your guys thoughts
[EVO 4G General] gqstatus0685:
It may be time to dust off my Razr.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Carriers get smart, devs get smarter......lets not jump the gun and worry about this nonsense now. I will enjoy my rooted phone for now. If this does go down those of you saying you will go to "dumbphones" are full of it. Even if these phones are locked down tighter than a 17 year old girls tuna you will still use it. I see the future as phones will be so fast why would you need to root; I love to root, I've been rooting ALL my phones since g1 and the sole purpose was the speed my phone up. Dual core phone no root ehh who cares. I will NOT use a free phone just because these phones in the future will possibly be locked. One can only hope this security doesn't see light but if it does I'm sure we'll be ok.
[EVO 4G General] sftd:
I've heard the "rooted users are the extreme minority" comment countless times, and all logic says it really must be true.

However, when I go to the market, click apps, then all applications, then click top paid, 3 of the top 5 require root. As an honest question, are my market results tailored for my usage history or is that the same "top paid" list everyone sees? If it is indeed the same for everyone then it becomes much harder to quantify rooted users being in the minority.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
Completely agree about the smartphone part but do not about the master key part, it would take years like 75 - 100 if the key is properly secure for many and I mean many super computers to solve that algorithm...look at the droids, the only reason on a side note the ps3 master key was released was because the people who secured it messed up in the formula, and that still took 5 years..
[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
the consequence would never be the same.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
That's because Sony needs to figure that part out, figure out how to run home brew but at the same time be able to block cheaters, anyway don't want to change subject of thread but you catch my drift and I see your point
[EVO 4G General] Drewmungus:
What about a jailbroken iPhone? The hard truth of all this is if somebody really wants to steal software it really isn't that hard on any platform. For some of these companies like Netflix, I don't think they realize that if somebody wanted to copy a movie from them that person would prolly do it on a computer and not a rooted android.
[EVO 4G General] bkrodgers:
What bothers me about this is the assumption that people only root to tether, and that the only wait to fight tethering is to block rooting. The debate about the ethics of tethering for free and what "unlimited data" means is a valid one, but it should not have anything to do with the discussion of whether or not we can root.

Root is about having admin privileges. That's all. We shouldn't even NEED to exploit a security vulnerability to obtain root. We should just have it. It'd be no different than Dell selling you a computer and refusing to give you the admin password. I don't understand why mobile device makers and carriers are getting away with this.
[EVO 4G General] samsunghater:
thats y att and verizon should be butt buddies and go jump off something tall together
[EVO 4G General] MortalSynz:
Well said! I've been "hacking" phones since my first Next i730. I am used to it being just that, hacking and now with rooting, I've never actually thought of it this way. However, you are exactly right, it is about us having simple administrator privelages.

I do believe it's unfair to a cetain extent. Though I don't agree with being charged for tethering capabilities, I see the carrier's point in wanting to block unprivelaged tethering or even things that debrands the phone like a custom bootloader. I can accept those lockdowns, but completely disagree with punishing those that mod their phones to improve the usability. I have a rooted EVO with stock rom, kernel, bootloader. I previously had a G2, rooted and ROM, with tethering unlocked, never used it once as I knew it was against carrier policy.
[EVO 4G General] doh_tee:
Seriously screw this nation. Screw companies. Screw technology. So damn ridiculous. I FLIP about throttling and it kills me when people aren't aware or worse, don't care that companies get away with this.

A local internet provider that I'm sorry I will have to deal with in the near future advertises 16mb/s internet and then explains, oh no, its only 7mb/s. Uh. Then say that.

I swear I'm bout to catch a case.
[EVO 4G General] AbsolutZeroGI:
+1 on that second paragraph. You've hit the nail on the head there.

As for the first one, with so many users using root privileges to tether, it's not impossible to understand the carriers' point of view. However there are simple solutions: developers stop providing the hacks that allow us to steal internet and for wireless tether devs to take their stuff down. If developers prevent us from stealing a paid service then carriers will stop caring that we're stealing it...because we won't be. I would prefer to keep letting my phone be rooted, but this is definitely one of those wait and see kind of things. Remember, they said you couldn't root the G2...and they got it done. My G2 was rooted before I jumped ship from T-Mobile.

tl;dr analysis = you're right on admin privileges. However, tethering without paying for it is using a paid service for free; so it's understandable that carriers are pissed off.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
I think the article is a load of crap. Microsoft has been trying to do this for the past 15+ years. Where there's a will, there's a way. No matter how hard they try to lock things down, sooner or later, someone will figure out a way around it. It may not be easier than previously, but it will still be doable.
[EVO 4G General] Action B:
I use the tethering but I certainly don't share my connection with anyone. What if it was only allowed to have 1 device to tether to your phone at a time? I think that would be fair to consumer and providers.

I know they already throttle my upload speed for sure, upload is dead set at 1.00 mb/s on 4g network here in northern VA while download can be up around 8 Mb/s.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
They don't throttle anything...smh
[EVO 4G General] Action B:
Sure seems like it....

Some of the features in RLS 5 (01-07-2011) include:

* Updated to official Sprint base 3.70.651.1 - 2.6.32.17-gee557fd htc-kernel@and18-2 #15

* Added 4G Toggle to Notification Power Controls (Thanks JsChiSurf)

* Fixed Notification Power Control. Indicators now keep in sync with actual state of services (Thanks JsChiSurf)

* Added Warm Themed OTA Swype keyboard (Thanks DJZager)

* Data throttling governor removed (Thanks BThomas22x) (Optional Install) Note this mod will disable the Menu | Wireless & Networks | Mobile Networks settings (force close). An unfortunate side effect of this mod.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Removes throttle on phone... which carriers no longer use anyway.. proves nothing.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Ding ding

Less assumption, more education.
[EVO 4G General] Action B:
I never mentioned the method of throttling, whether wrong or not its not a bad assumption. I'm not a developer or anything. I noticed:

1. Every time I am on 4g, no matter how good the connection, my upload cannot exceed 1mb/s from speedtest app on any server.

2. Roms frequently have data throttling removed

3. Clearwire has been known to throttle their connection while saying they don't. There is a lot of information and posts about this behavior on the clearwire website. Clearwire also is Sprints 4g. (I can site examples if needed)

I'm not saying I'm right (because I'm apparently wrong), I'm just saying I made an educated guess and I'd like for someone to explain why number 1 and number 3 I noticed are the ways they are. I digress in general so don't ridicule me go ahead and educate. I know we all are ignorant to certain things and make assumptions that probably arent true.

Having a biology degree I hear misinformation being spread about health related topics all the time so I know it can be aggravating.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
1. I can personally attest to getting better than 1mbit/s on 4g upload.

Not only that, but people's sigs around here can attest to it too.

2. They removed what was found in the android coding, what has been shown to do nothing.

3. Clearwire may throttle their customers but that doesn't mean that the Sprint users are throttled.
[EVO 4G General] Action B:
So this is a typical screenshot of 4g for me.

This can be reproduced at any moment on my phone with a variable download.

I wonder if its exclusive to my area or my phone.

Any insight?
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
From this page:

http://newsroom.sprint.com/news/htc-evo-shift-4g-fact-sheet.htm

Under productivity,

"4G data speeds (WiMAX) – peak download speeds of more than 10 Mbps; peak upload speeds of 1 Mbps; average download speeds of 3-6 Mbps."
[EVO 4G General] Action B:
Well that answers a lot! Who would have figured you can get higher upload on 3g?!

Thanked, appreciate the answers and help. Sorry for the assumption.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Just depends on how they build the network.

Also, I've seen people get much higher than 1mbit/s and I know I have personally as well.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
noticed your sig above me, you really feel the need to copy and follow me around also,

avatar is my dog, NOT ME

really?
[EVO 4G General] Taupakari:
It's not just your area. All 4G in Ohio tops out at 1.0Mbps upstream regardless of the downstream speed.
[EVO 4G General] david black:
Amen brother.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
4G upload is capped at 1mb/s. This has been known for a long time. Run 10 speed tests and you'll average at within 200 kb of it.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Sorry, didn't see this post until it was quoted.

I understand what you're saying, really I do.

But it's all about perception.
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
You're lucky you have 4g! They completely skipped the Toledo area!
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
And I know they've had it for awhile because my ex's boss sometimes receives 4g in his Monroe, Michigan office and that was about 6 months ago...
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
If there is some way around this and there are screenshots to prove it, I'd love to know about it. Not trying to call you on the carpet or anything, but I'm pretty sure if you can get > 1 Mbps upload on WiMax a LOT of people here would LOVE to know how!

My understanding is that Sprint's WiMax upload speed is and always has been capped at 1 Mbps. You can see it quite clearly in speed tests. The needle just gets right to 1 Mbps then sticks right there and bounces very slightly up and down. Sure a rogue packet here or there might get it to temporarily jump up to MAYBE 1.2 or something if you're really lucky, but they most certainly cap WiMax upload at 1 Mbps.
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
I've never gotten below 2 up on WiMax before. Must be your area.
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
Clearwire may have the actual tower support, but Sprint doesn't.

http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp

Just enter 43615 in the zip code area or Toledo Ohio. It'll give that same message. I think I would know to, seeing that I have my Evo back on Sprint and I still have no 4g.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
The zipcode you're talking about is outside of the covered area.

At any rate, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=943540&highlight=toledo
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
Here's downtown Toledo

Here's east Toledo

Here's north Toledo

Here's west Toledo

Already covered south toledo.

Really doesn't get any more detailed than that. Also, this part is on me but that map doesn't show my location of my zip code, I'm actually off of East Bound Angola on Butterfield dr. Clearwire has coverage, but Sprint does not have access to those towers yet.

I'll say it again, Clearwire has the support for 4g seeing that they have their own service they offer, but Sprint doesn't. Hell, just go to the Sprint coverage map and enter Toledo Ohio for 4g and it'll tell you there's no support yet, only 3g.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I'm going to submit to you the idea that Sprint doesn't update their coverage map constantly.

I posted a link to a thread on here with people CONFIRMING 4g.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Sprint does update it slower.
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
You should probably look where it reads "Coverage updated on:4/12/11". The coverage map you linked to, is for Clearwire service. Meaning their 4g data service not connected to Sprint at all. Sprint uses Clearwire towers, but right now does not have access to those towers. Instead of making me look for the forum link, why don't you post it for me if you want to help your point?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Well, if you scroll a few posts up. ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12866163&postcount=211

Someone confirming.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11187901&postcount=15
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
My mistake.

I concede. :D
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Enjoy it man, we don't have it here yet. :(
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
I can't get connected to it at all though, nor can my fiancee with her Shift. Got the prl updated on both of them.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Probably in a house with 1 inch thick walls. :p
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
One step forward.. two steps back..smh
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Assuming you are rooted and flashing, have you checked to make sure you still have your RSA keys? There is a free reader in the market that will check for you.
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
Inside or out, I'm in the 4g coverage and I've even tried downtown and at Westfield off of Monroe street there, and still nothing.

It's there, but even if it wasn't it doesn't explain the Shift that isn't rooted at all.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Sounds like it may be time for a trip to the sprint store with the shift.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
Well seeing as how no one else really sees this, and only a couple of people here or there claim they do, and even Sprint 4G literature stats uploads top out at 1 Mbps, I'm gonna have to pull the old "pics or gtfo" card. :p
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
Just take the shift to the sprint store and get it swapped or have them troubleshoot either way you'll walk out with 4g hopefully
[EVO 4G General] tgruendler:
I would have to agree...pics or it didn't happen.
[EVO 4G General] thegame3202:
This will never happen. Reason being: They passed the Iphone saying that people ARE allowed to jailbreak it. It's our stuff, we can do what we want. That will happen with android too.
[EVO 4G General] Bigjim1488:
If my ability to tether goes away I will truly be upset. I may just stick with an older phone then upgrade to one of the newer soon to be possibly locked down phones.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
Qft! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] sftd:
Also, the post linked in the OP, whether from a trusted developer or not, is (as stated in length at the bottom of the article) simply opinion. While I fully believe carriers wish the death of all things root, I do not believe the same for Google proper as that article would tend to sway towards. If this were the case, I don't believe Google would have forced Motorola to leave the Xoom, development device or not, wholly unlockable and even moreso still under warranty/upgradable even in it's unlocked/rooted state.

Opinion can be a decidedly strong influencer when that particular opinion coincides or plays upon the wants or fears of a particular community to which it is aligned. History has proven this time and time again, and the faceless lightning quick way in which we have become accustomed to receiving information from the internet unequivocally enhances its ability to do so.
[EVO 4G General] tempe38:
I'm not rooted and I see the same thing. Interesting question.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
Yes, your right but it's always something that could happen and a reiteration of the thought by someone respected rises the likelihood of that thought, which scares me even though it hasn't happened yet, and we might never see it hopefully
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Oh man.. I wonder if my old Moto StarTac would even work on todays networks.. :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
I know most of my non rooted friends don't purchase apps, whether being poor or whatever the case is, and the reason those apps are on the top is because you need them to root install recovery or support someone helping you to do one of the above. The non rooted apps are whatever, if you want to pay a dollar or whatever the case Is to listen to a talking cat or play a game you will, but if you have the potential to unlock a phone you will buy that as a rooted user, buying amount doesn't correlate with the amount of users in that subset.
[EVO 4G General] sftd:
Please consider as well that all these news and forum sites, spanning from giants like Engadget to the tinniest single device fan forum make their money nearly entirely from advertising. The more rousing or shock inducing a story, the more likely Joe Schmoe is to give it a click. Moreover, that same path is increased exponentially as Joe Schmoe links it in his blog, and readers of that blog subsequently link it on their favorite forum.

The editors of these sites are fully aware of this usage pattern and can not be blamed for taking advantage of it, and by default though not maliciously, taking advantage of us.

For a wonderful example see the very existance of TMZ.
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
1) What happened to the Supreme Court decision that allows end users to whatever the hell they want the device they OWN!!

2) Like me, how many people do not root to use tethering, but to enhance and improve the phone overall?? See #1 for details.

I can understand them being pissed about tethering, as it IS stealing a service that is provided for a fee, much like stealing cable TV.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Voice-of-reason.

Good points and I hope you're right. All carriers locking down all devices seems very unlikely, sure it "could" happen but there's a market for user administrated devices and this is an open market. I'm willing to bet someone will always supply that demand and I imagine that someone will be Google or an affiliate.
[EVO 4G General] sftd:
I don't mean to be contrary, but as you can see in that screen capture, neither I, or anyone else needs those particular applications for any part of the rooting process, nor the management or sustainability of the handset and ROMs to be installed and run thereafter. So that particular theory while in some branches of the idea could easily contain quantifiable truth, it is incredibly far from an absolute.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
17 year old girls these days are not tonight, don't you watch 15 and pregnant lok

Sent from my spaceship!