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[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] tyvallely:
On mydroidworld
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] alijs:
Maybe need to address Google about that..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] spc_hicks09:
Well if you're talking about this post:

http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/974-google-s-android-unopen-source-project.html

It says nothing about "tracking down root users" or anything about tethering.

Would be nice if you could post the url to the article. Your post is misleading, I'm not sure if it's because information is missing from your post, or because this is just your opinion and you're wrongly stating it as fact. At any rate, I've read the above post and it says nothing about using software to track down root users (which is ridiculous) or anything about making people pay to tether. Having free tether apps and paid tether apps on Android is a very big selling point for them which constantly gives them better sales figures than evil Apple.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
Thread is full of FAIL
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mrkite38:
I think we're done here. :)
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[Droid X General] tyvallely:
If you haven't heard all ready Verizon is tracking down root users and limiting there data or fully suspending it so watch out. But we have to fight back against them by hiding Verizon from seeing that we are proudly rooted and some people have said the would sue Verizon. Please do whatever you can to fight against this.

Also motorola and htc are going to start doing the same.
[Droid X General] cstrife999:
Where have you heard this? This is the first I have heard of it and through multiple google searches it seems that all link to this thread or copies of it. Nothing from any reputable source. Also after speaking with a Verizon rep they thought it was funny and didn't hear about it either.

EDIT: I saw the post by P3droid I still don't buy it. This garbage has been circling the internet for over a year. Not true then, not true now. Also if you read the article HTC and other carriers are thinking about this as well and HTC is already including encrypted bootloaders so point fingers everywhere. Still though Verizon nor any other carrier are going to do anything. Think about it... They are offering the upgrade on Zoom tablets even if you are rooted... That post by P3Droid is simply fear mongering.
[Droid X General] tyvallely:
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013

And p3droid doesn't lie.
[Droid X General] V1215:
If this were the case, what would need to be done - watch our data usage so as not to be noticed?
[Droid X General] Jmoney47:
If my data is suspended I'm going to sue there asses off
[Droid X General] tyvallely:
Don't update your phone unless we say its ok because they could put the software on the update.

UPDATE: BREAKING: IF YOU UPDATED TO 2.3.3 VERIZON ALREADY KNOWS AND HAS TRACKED YOU
[Droid X General] pool_shark:
You're going to sue them because you violated your warranty and TOS?
[Droid X General] ibsk8:
Agreed. Verizon and other carriers could careless about rooted phones. It's users that tether crazy data. I'm rooted and have no desire to tether, never have and probably never will.
[Droid X General] infazzdar:
Verizon has already baked tether detection into Gingerbread.
[Droid X General] TMFGO45:
Is this some kind of April fools? First of all, we should be allowed to use our data allotment however we see fit, the tether plan is nothing more than a money grab. I can connect my computer, and whatever else, and if I run out of data, verizon gets more money that month, since I have to buy more. Preventing us from tethering for free is ridiculous. And frankly, ATT did it for the iphone, but I actually think that's because they have a pathetic network, and they had to find some way to lighten the load. Anyway, this better not be true. Or I'm starting my own wireless company, and it will be FOR the people. While still making plenty of money not having to nickel and dime anybody. That is all.
[Droid X General] Sirschiz:
To hell with Freedom!!

As a new root user, and a complete N00B. I first would like to say. Thank you! To all the dev teams out there. You guys have made my experience with my amazing Droid X a complete blast. I just love flashing the Liberty 1.5 ROM to all my fellow co-workers that are being strapped by Apple. I for one, being a tech, have heard a lot of backroom conversations. I know these big corporate entities are looking at this forum and asking why college kids can do these amazing things with their devices, but we as mature, hardworking, overpaid corporate big shots can not figure this **** out. It's absolutely hilarious to me. It's a classic Slippery Slope. They can't figure it out, they "Leak" it out source somehow. The underground dev teams take it and make it great, then these corporate beasts take it back all shinny and new, and then throw the developers into the fire. Screaming "Off with their Heads"! "They've stolen from us"! Last I checked we still live in a country, that is if you're reading this from the USA, that still stands for FREEDOM!

SDICKER89

said it best from the DEV forum:

This is

MY

phone! I worked for the money to buy it! I'm the one trying to figure out why I was having to charge my battery all the time. I'm the one that was wondering why my phone wasn't as amazing as the IPhone, when their specs are so close to each other. It's a damn shame! From the brilliant mind of Bill Hicks (R.I.P) "Go back to bed America"! "You're Free to do as we Tell you"! (Youtube: Bill Hicks - Go back to bed America)

To all of you that serve as a DEV team member - from the amateur to the most experienced! "Hats off to you" !

By the way - I just supported - Liberty 2.0 ROM - :p
[Droid X General] judasmachine:
/shrugs

I'm sticking to Liberty, and if they limit my data (and I even notice) I'll just switch. I can pay the etf at any given moment and will.
[Droid X General] eth3rton:
Screw it. They do anything to mine and I am done with Verizon. Straight Talk here I come.

Wouldn't they at that point be breaking their own agreement for unlimited data?
[Droid X General] judasmachine:
Did I not just break it by rooting and ROMing? That's the way I understand it. Maybe I don't fully understand what's going on here.
[Droid X General] eth3rton:
When I signed up with my Android I signed up for $30 unlimited data and if they are changing the rules for whatever reason they are breaking the contract. In my opinion I should not pay an ETF for something they have caused... some will argue I rooted/tethered but unlimited is unlimited.
[Droid X General] mav3rick478:
You fail to read the fine print just like credit cards. The carrier can change your plan as they like but must offer you options, ie. Grandfather you until your next upgrade or allow you to leave without a penalty. VZW has done nothing illegal, and like said before, if you rooted the phone you broke the agreement with VZW and have no legs to stand on in a court of law and they can do as they please with your data allotment.
[Droid X General] Andhi:
Rooting/Jailbreaking is actually legal. Apple already tried to do this for the exact same reasons and failed in court.
[Droid X General] mattmartin77:
This is not about the ability to root/modify. They could care less. What they are annoyed about is how people use root. they dont want their service to be stolen.

If verizon allowed the use of "free" tethering with apps such as wireless tether and barnacle, and bumped up the price of data a little (because data is data, whether you are tethering or on youtube) then not only would the community and myself be happy without the whole data throttling thing because of tethering, but the carrier/moto would also be ecstatic because they get a lot of positive PR from one of the most influential parts of their phone community.
[Droid X General] Andhi:
And this is clearly unfair for those rooted users who don't abuse their power. I pay for an unlimited plan and yet 95% of the time my phone is connected to WiFi.
[Droid X General] Tornlogic:
This is all hearsay until we have cases of people having their contracts cancelled or whatnot.

Also you have to realize the point of this whole thing. Its not if you root. Vzw is against you tethering without paying for it. Its a service they offer for money. Its not a free service, so don't expect to get it for free without vzw doing something about it. Just because your phone is capable of it, doesn't mean you get it for free!!!! That's like saying, "my phone is capable of phone calls... I should get them for free!!!"

No you shouldn't. You should pay for it just like everyone else. Just like you should pay to have the tethering service.
[Droid X General] tyvallely:
1. He knows he voided his warranty

2. It's not in the terms of service
[Droid X General] mattmartin77:
thanks for repeating what i had just said instead of +1ing it...

but vzw should NOT charge for tethering because you are using data. it is the EXACT SAME data that is used when you are on youtube/internet/etc. If vzw cannot handle this kind of data usage, they should have tiered data plans for people that would use an inane amount of tethering data that cost more. although it is legal, is it completely stupid (had a better word, then lost it :p) for them to charge astronomically more for use of something that we already pay for! VZW: If you cant handle the "unlimited" data plan you sell, dont sell it then!
[Droid X General] SysAdmin-X:
tyvallely please don't create multiple threads in different forums for the same topic. I believe you had another "pissed my pants" topic about this same thing.

Yes it is shame if Verizon and other carriers decide to do this...but let's not create pity parties all over the XDA forums.

Let things play out and see how they go.
[Droid X General] ieAnd:
This upsets me, and I do believe P3Droid; he's a great guy from all that I can tell and all the help he's given me, and he certainly seems to know his bznzz. But you know what? Up Verizon's. I have rooted and De-Odexed Gingbread on the ol' Droid X, and I tether all day on the bus to my Nook Color while surfing about. If Verizon has a problem with it, so be it. I'll wait for them to let me know. What's the worst that's going to happen, they'll hit me with an ETF? Oh no. I have to leave a Carrier I've been trying to leave for about 2 years. At the end of the day, I still have a Droid X with Gingbread that pumps out a 2000 on Quadrant; thanks for the sweet PMP/Portable Game Console, I'll be on my way.

It's annoying. It feels like a violation of privacy. It's certainly very dickish. But they're not keeping track of our incredibly personal information and deep, dark secrets. They're tracking our phone model, data usage and MEID. 3 things that change all the damn time for most of us active community members. If it's the way the industry is moving, then I'll do my best to fight it and do things the way I like them. Even with my occasional tethering, I never use more than 2GB a month; they're still easily making their dollar's worth off of me. And it's not like I'll be having THEIR GB rom on the ol' dog for much longer, we're on the advent of community Gingerbread ROMs.

It sucks, I know. I don't like it. But I think the best we can do is keep loving our phones and Android development. And the best way we can do that is by fighting the good fight and continuing to develop, test and use awesome Android-based things. If Verizon decides to cut us off? Except for a few of us who tether huge amounts of data (which are still most likely cool people), it's their loss at the end of the day.

P.S. if you're really worried and feel like Gingerbread is betraying you, go on back to Liberty 1.5/2.0. They were-- and are-- great, fast and stable! (granted they still are gonna have your info if all this is true, but whatever makes you feel better ;] )
[Droid X General] Ben's:
You guys can blame Joe Hickbob living in the boonies and tethering his PS3 for this. How many threads are there with posts stating, " I used 15GB and not been red flagged. "

One bad apple ruins the whole tree but, we SHOULD NOT all be punished like we are all rotten thieving apples. You pay for what you can afford, when you take it KNOWING you are stealing or breaking the rules, you are just another THIEF. Your complaints will fall on deaf ears. I'm talking to those going well over their 5GB of use for tethering.

I could care less in a way, I got away from Verizon because let's face it, I much rather pay $55 for unlimited everything with no contract and sure as heck no carrier telling me what to do. Cricket = win for me. Data speeds you say? LoL, my girlfriend has VZW and side by side, my DX speeds always beats out here DX 3G speed.

My point is, rather you step up and do something about it or you will just stay on the hook like all the other fish VZW has on their hooks in the large sea of VZW customers.
[Droid X General] ieAnd:
Interesting. Cricket. Droid X you say? My Verizon contract's almost up, and thanks to all this I'm quite ready to be done. Do they get decent reception? Take former numbers?

Nothing like sticking it to Verizon than refusing to give money to Verizon.
[Droid X General] torikorocks:
I do tether and I do get throttled when I hit about 5or6 gigs on an unlimited data plan. I started using wifi more so I use about 6 gigs a month. My school doesn't have wifi which sucks so I use tethering. Its nice verizon does offer unlimited data still. Verizon is great except I don't like their insurance plan so I bought my phone at best buy and their insurance plan is better and they cover your battery and will give u a new phone instead of a like new replacement. Now Verizon is switching their insurance plan and its worse. Theres a thread on Droid life about it I think. There's my rant on Verizon.

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[Droid X General] Ben's:
I ported my number over just fine, for free too.

As far as reception, I have never had a dropped call. I live in a major city so for me, I always get 3G and great call quality. I would check their coverage map to see if you are covered.

For me, I couldn't ever not be thankful for Cricket. I cancelled my account and with the money I saved, I paid in full my bill and ETF! $55 is $55, no taxes or other bulls***.

Straight, foward and reliable service 100% for me.
[Droid X General] oldmacnut:
Quick!!!! Run to the store and buy some foil for a new hat!!!!!

You know what, when I pay 500.00 for a galaxy Tab without a contract, or a Droid X full price, etc....I will do what ever I good and ****ing please to those devices I own.

I have told Verizon My DX is rooted, wifes Droid Pro, and my Galaxy Tab, they also know my DX is running GB, I dont care. I make it a point to let them know I am rooted anytime I need to call Tech Support.

Of course, we dont tether out phones or Tab, my wife does use ALOT of data each month, but due to radio apps. VZ has never cared regarding my account.

So when I bricked my Tab this weekend, called tech, let them know I thought I bricked it trying to flash back to stock, they were happy to send me a replacement.

Being honest and upfront, has always been the best route for me.

However, MY Devices, I OWN THEM, **** YOU I WILL PAINT THEM, ROOT THEM, ETC.
[Droid X General] cstrife999:
I don't really care who posted it. Beyond that one post there is zero evidence. Beyond that Verizon and Motorola are just coming off saying that they will upgrade your zoom to 4g even if it is rooted...
[Droid X General] V1215:
Funny enough, I was told that using a non-Verizon screen protector would void my warranty.
[Droid X General] ieAnd:
Well, sweet. I will look into this. Thanks man. This could be just what I'm looking for. Did you get your DX through Cricket, or do you use an old Verizon one with them? I'm just curious about their bands.

And to all you people who tether non-excessively: I say keep it up. We pay good money for 5GB of data; how we use it is our business. Accessing facebook on my Droid, or accessing it on my Nook tethered is going to be the same thing; it's simply the convenience of having a larger screen. If some of you disagree with that morally, I absolutely respect your opinions and would gladly have a discussion about it. If someone (probably only Verizon here disagrees here) disagrees with that due to fiscal reasons... kindly piss off.

And if you're one of those folks who tethers OVER 5GB of Data off-plan just 'cause you can, without necessity?

Please, please stop. I'm not saying you're a bad person, it's just that situations like that piss off people that can subsequently make the rest of our lives hell. We should all just get along.
[Droid X General] SOCOM-HERO:
This whole idea is a bunch of crap as of now. I can't see VZW ruining their most die-hard base of customers, the modders are the ones who buy the most expensive phones, plans and use data. This would ruin their customer base. How insane, if this is real, I'll just get an iPhone like everyone else wants you too. That way they can track your every move and you are supposed to "like" it.

by the way, I rarely use the tethering, and honestly could do without. Seriously, whatever.
[Droid X General] Funnyface19:
let them measure how much data i use, they do already, but i pay for unlimited so it shouldnt matter if they check it now ill fight it to the end, and if they wanna be so petty ill make them pay i dont tether that often usually if the power goes out or im on the road and need a quick internet hit
[Droid X General] SOCOM-HERO:
exactly the same reason that I would ever tether. I practically always use wifi anyway, so screw the network. As long as I can get internet that way, I'll still be plenty happy. But this this VZW tracking feature is already happening I believe. This will result in some form of a lawsuit eventually, but I have almost always seen this coming.

Posted below is the full posting from the mydroidworld forums. all credit to p3droid and TBH. I feel so bad for those guys, all their hard work could go to waste in the future.
[Droid X General] Joe92T:
What noone seems to realize is that you can tether for free without even having root... With PDAnet for free in the market any android phone can tether even completely stock with no root... Their not stopping anything
[Droid X General] SOCOM-HERO:
Exactly why the issue with tethering is not limited to root....just look at this guy tether without paying a cent...non rooted completely stock DX using 3G hotsopt glitch...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZeqMHw6MM4&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
[Droid X General] Ben's:
I used a VZW DX and flashed it to Cricket. Cricket does not sell Motorola products. They sell low end Android phones but none of them come close to the hardware quality of a DX.
[Droid X General] hlaalu:
Didn't HTC just release the source kernal for thunderbolt? I doubt they would do that if there were plans in the making of suspending service for root users...
[Droid X General] dkranes:
+1 for Droid X on Cricket's $55 unlimited everything plan with no contract or ETF.
[Droid X General] Joe92T:
Your required to release the kernal source code under the GPL.. its not by choice that they do these things..

Its just funny because ANYONE can tether there device even unrooted using PDAnet which is a free download on the market... you could even tether using a verizon display demo phone if you wanted too... so being rooted has nothing to do with the ability to tether your phones data to your PC

Yes we own the phones but THEY own the network... we can do whatever we want with our phones because its ours... but the same goes for THEIR network...

Under the "Unlimited Data Plan" there are no guarantees on how fast you can get this data... so yes your data may be "unlimited" but they can cap you at 56K download speeds if they wanted too and still be within contract because your still "unlimited" youll just never get anywere
[Droid X General] jnehama:
Thanks for your sane posts! I completely agree. Something may be happening but people on all the forums are taking it as a done deal. Some are even unrooting. I don't get it! There's No evidence, NONE! ZIP! we're doing Verizons job by scaring ourselves to death. My phone is going on with life as usual!
[Droid X General] bcblount:
I have a friend that works for Verizon. This is all BS. I asked her if she knew if there was any truth to this tracking and throttling, etc. Per my friend "Yeah I heard that to. It was in discussion but not going to happen. It was cause of at&t taking over other companies and competition." Its not going to happen. So stop spamming it around.
[Droid X General] neite:
Have you been able to get all features?

I have been thinking about doing this but I dont want the data/mms to not be working.

Thanks,
[Droid X General] elkay:
They stated unlimited data, but not at any specific speed. Throttling wouldn't be breaking the agreement on their end, shady as it may be.
[Droid X General] taterDX:
apple already tried what verizon's suppposedly doing , failed in court... & if it is true, what can we do? bend over & take it

its a rumor until we see something official ya'll chill out

sent from the DX
[Droid X General] Jmoney47:
All of us here need to remember this: You can do whatever you want with your device and Verizon cannot do anything to your device about it. HOWEVER, they can do whatever they want with THEIR service. As stated in the terms of service that EVERYONE here agreed to, in section 2 part d of reasons they can terminate or suspend your service, if you "modify your device from its manufacturer's specifications" they have the right to stop providing you service.

So yes you can modify your device to hell and back but they DO NOT have to give you service for it. So all of you can stop saying Verizon had to tell you something or can't do this. THEY ALREADY TOLD US.
[LG Optimus 2x] ermacwins:
Ok so I installed Samurai 2: Vengeance, played with it and everything on mcr4 and installed angry birds. After some time the phone froze (not related to the game) and I wiped the phone and reinstalled. I wasnt able to go back to a backup as it just froze on lg loading screen.

Now when i try to instal it and doesnt work. Angry biirds Rio from market says: unknown reason -18

Some help please
[LG Optimus 2x] akira de aimbuster:
what do you mean on mrc4?

try to clean up the remaining data/incomplete files, then reinstall again :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hadesz:
Hi

Is it possible to do? In a ZTE Blade there is an option in Settings to do this.

Thanks

HaDeSz
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] galaxysdev:
Why you would want to do that:confused: And i dont think its possible...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bootsy85:
maybe he wants to use the phone while doing some battery calibration or is afraid of too many loading cycles
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hadesz:
Android supports it...

hard to monitor battery drain
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cp0020:
this guy said that in order for him to get spb shell 3D to work on his milestone he had to use this bulletproof script. he said that would keep it from closing out like it does on our hero's. so they have the same problem as us... as far as trying to get spb to work. here is the bulletproof script thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991276 . now i was wondering if anybody can take a look at it and see if they can get it to work on our hero's? everytime i look at this thread i get so confused lol. thanks! :)