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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] terchoo:
Well Welki,

After your message i realize about DFT and about you too. THANK you very much DFT and XDA. BEST OF LUCK and Long live XDA and DFT.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Gustopher:
OMG some of us keep visiting the thread in the hope that there might be some news of actual developments or information of real value. LMFAO - like that could ever happen. ROFL.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] welki1979:
I was simply re-iterating what other people have said - DFT have the right to do what they want with THEIR development tools.

You'd have to be an idiot not to understand that.

And by that you mean?!?... I'm sure DFT would love to hear what you 'realise'
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] ganjaweed:
My god ,Its like a warzone.better get out.....
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] lemonspeakers:
Lol. 10 char.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
Unless you have a special account on DFT China there is no way you could access areas on the site where people would be talking about NoDo and other topics. The English DFT site is still pretty much dead, at least for now.

One would think that it is not that DFT will never release tools, but that such tools are not yet ready for less technical users which would leave open the door for easily bricking your device.

You are right when you say all we can do is wait! When the new magdlr, NoDo, and whatever that is under development is at a point where people won't be bricking their phones other than by being careless there will be a release. DFT would not have posted the video that started this thread if they had no intention of ever releasing updates.

For those of you who want this thread locked, just don't visit it. The news will certainly make the front page of XDA-Developers very quickly after the release. The announcement, when it comes, will not be made in this thread on XDA-Developers anyway. For me, I find it quite entertaining to see the views and thoughts of people on what is going on. It would be nice if some could tone down the hostility. I don't think we need a repeat of the hostility and nonsense that went on in several threads before DFT released the first HD2 WP7 ROM.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] mfrey0118:
Does anyone know if we'll see proper text wrapping / zoom in IE anytime soon?

As far as our HD2, all the people that rushed out and bought it about a year ago from TMOUS (when we still thought there was a chance Microsoft would do an official WP7 ROM) are coming up on their first discount upgrade availability and the HD2 supporting, XDA donating populace out there that makes all this possible will have moved on to the next generation...sad but it is how the tech world is now. Legacy is rapidly becoming extinct...it's like the G1 forums. Are they dead? No, but might as well be who here wants to go check them out? Still a few faithful clinging desperately to their "once awesome" phone and trying new mods...lol, it's sad it's like Sad Nerd Day. :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] OGmackPLRcool:
I have been assuming the update hasnt been released because the Mango update has already been announced.

Not sure if any of you guys have ever had an iPhone, but a lot of the time the devs would hold off on small updates and save their exploit for bigger updates so Apple wouldnt know what to patch in order to block it from working.

I assumed we were dealing with a similar situation over here. If they release the NoDo update Microsoft would be able to find the loop hole and patch it so they would have to find another way to unlock Mango. Just makes it easier on them. I for one am waiting patiently. I loved WP7, but had to go back to Android because of the lack of cut/paste and a decent camera. With Mango on the horizon and SHCameraApp getting better and better hopefully next time I flash a WP7 rom it will be my last time flashing the phone.

Hats off to DFT and all the developers! I know people complain about something you are doing for free for the community, but I guarantee the majority out there cannot thank you enough for your hard work and dedication. Take as long as you need.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
@mfrey0118;

I am not quite convinced that the HD2 is yet ready to be retired to the ranks of legacy devices. As of this time, the HD2 is still the only device that can run WM, WP7, Android, Ubuntu and MeeGo. I know that DFT is still working on some amazing things for the HD2, especially the USA T-Mobile version.

Until another device proves to be as versatile as the HD2 in terms of serving as a testbed for so many operating systems, I expect the HD2 will still maintain the interest of engineers and developers. That can only be good for XDA-Developers HD2 power users.

@OGmackPLRcool;

I surely hope that you are incorrect in your assumption that DFT would hold off on any updates just to wait for Mango, which has a very uncertain date for release. Some reports question whether it will even come out this year.

I am not sure that comparing jailbreaking Apple iPhones with WP7 ROM development for the HD2 is an accurate method to draw conclusions. Granted, Microsoft blocked Chevron sideloading, but that could be easily predicted. Blocking Chevron is not directed just at HD2 phones, but any WP7 device that has Chevron loaded on it. Microsoft has to protect their developers or WP7 will never have a chance to become truly competitive in the market.

Since the early days of XDA-Developers Microsoft has, for the most part, tolerated reasonably well the porting of newer WM versions to HTC devices. There was indeed some question as to how Microsoft would react to the WP7 OS being ported to the HD2. Fortunately for us, the responses of HTC and Microsoft were, again for the most part, that it is not supported.

I think too that we have to remember that Apple only has four models of iPhones and only a few versions of one mobile operating system. And, we know how protective Apple is of all things related to IPR. The HTC HD2 is barely a blimp on Microsoft's radar these days, and again we must remember that Microsoft has since Windows Mobile days taken a very different attitude than Apple has with iOS.

If we are lucky, we still should get a NoDo update before Mango is released, and if we are really lucky, maybe get some of the features of Mango included in a new ROM before Mango is released.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hello220667:
Update HD2 ZUNE

I want to do an UPDATE on HD2 Zune is it possible or Not Possible?

My rom actuely is WP7 7008

tanks
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] TonyCubed:
Not possible.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] napisweet:
New tweet from cotulla but dont think its phone related. Nearly had a heart attack as thought it was news!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hjhjhj:
And what was the purpose of this post?

As for all the questions about functionality updates and feature updates to WP7 for HD2...people why do you ask? DFT is doing the porting, and no one is privy to what DFT plans on providing. I do seriously doubt DFT would enhance any basic OS apps in a port. Seriously, stop with the ridiculous questions?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] antaed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Day_(9_May)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hjhjhj:
WTF is this? Keep your political crap off here!!!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hjhjhj:
Yeah...I can just see some numb-nuts using WP7 development tools, screwing up his/her phone, and then come crying to everyone in the forums asking for help.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] antaed:
LOL no need to swear mate, I was just explaining what Cotulla's tweet was all about.

9th of May is a holiday in Russia. You know, that's the country where Cotulla lives...

So it turns out you're the one who should "keep your political crap off here" :eek:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] HD2-WP7:
what is your problem 'hjhjhj'? i've seen u'r comments on other threads as well. perhaps some mod will take a note of all u'r comments.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Tachi91:
This is entertainment ... And for the people who ask if they can update via Zune..by all means go ahead and update and let us know what happens... Seriously we would like to know if you get NoDo :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] craig.buckie:
Plus it has 5 different boot commands, which blurringly look like BOOT WM and BOOT WM NAND.

It's dated Feb 19, maybe they'll have things ready soon?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] :
nice! Looks ready to me...really hope multitouch has improved.

And was it just my screen? or was MAGLDR red?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] :
but dont we need a chevron app to make it recognized as a hd7?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] iba21:
oh oh.. i'm cumming :D

and magldr 1.14 :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] swefla:
Does anybody recognize the search button on the second Windows phone 7 in the video? Which built is this?

I'm really looking forward to the NoDo Rom, hopefully HD2owner and the other cookers get there hands on this Rom and the Tools...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] :
LOL HOLLY CRAP! :eek:

please pause the video at 2:47

i see something weird on the hd2 on the side....look like on screen search button :D

edit: seems like guy above me noticed it too
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] iba21:
oh yeah, that's a search button
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] lkwjason:
Oh,why the device's name is still LEO70?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rwholden:
now maybe with this i can give WP7 a go again :) roll on with the ROMs!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] huismeester:
There are two devices the search button is on hd7
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] EgoMaximus:
Will give WP7 a go after this one is released.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] :
No, HD7 doesn't have the t-mobile branding in the middle. and its search button is at the bottom(hardware), not where it was seen in the video (software).
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] welki1979:
Guessing it's the default device name for our HD2's as mine is currently set to the same using their original ROM release.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] cdguider:
LEO is the name of HD2.

70 as in Version 7004.

So we have

LEO70
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] orangekid:
built into the ROM
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] lemonspeakers:
Can anyone check the chinese website to see if the NoDo update has been leaked like when Leo70 was "leaked" the first time without a DFT official announcement?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] DJGurth:
Oh yea good idea that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let just wait for DFT ay!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] orangekid:
if you browse it in Chrome it will be translated to English,

so you can actually do this if you want.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] norman505:
Don't really care about copy and paste, but really hope that the greeness in camera will be fixed :cool:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] spgi:
and in Internet Explorer 9 Right mouse button - Translate with Bing...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
The thread is a way to keep people occupied until there is a release. Other than a few facts hidden here and there and a few interesting and novel opinions and ideas, the thread is best taken not too seriously, but appreciated mostly for its entertainment value. Let's hope not too many of the members of DFT and their associates are spending too much time reading the thread, rather than furthering the work for a release, LOL
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] EvilWhiteDragon:
While the content of the thread might not be of much use to DFT, it does show the eagerness of a lot of people to try WP7 with NoDo.

From my experience (in a different community software project), people are not quick to thank you for your developing work and time. The only way to "measure" success in these cases is by watching the anticipation before you actually release it.

After you've released it people are too busy playing with it to even post a single thank you.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] TonyCubed:
Lol @ Cotulla's post on Twitter and people get their hopes up, though, I did reply back to his message saying "A great day to release #HD2 NoDo? :D"

Poking a bit of fun.. ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] mfrey0118:
I'll just be happy with a text zoom that works for the browser. As much as I love the speed and fluidity of WP7 without proper text wrap when zooming in the internet is basically un-freakin'-usable to me, as most of my phone internet browsing is on forums and such that require...gee, I dunno...text that I can actually read without my head feeling like an old school typewriter from the constant back and forth every single freakin' sentence...still can't believe this issue was never addressed...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
I think you will find that many of the XDA-Developers crowd do show appreciation after Cotulla and DFT release a new version of something. Check out some of the threads in the developers forums when a new release of MAGDLR or the NAND version of Android were announced. The thanks can run up to more than 100 pages.

Ultimately, I think too you will find that Cotulla and DFT do not create these marvelous bits of wizardry just for the thanks, although I am sure it is appreciated. Of what I know of the DFT guys, they do it for the challenge; it is a true passion and vocation for them. I think the thrill comes for the DFT guys and Cotulla when something is successfully accomplished, not when the accolades start coming in, although I do know of at least one DFT guy who does occasionally monitor threads such as this one.

When the next release comes I think you can see all of this come into play. I truly look forward to seeing all of this come into play again.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] napisweet:
How many members are there in DFT? I counted 3 so far
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
To be honest, that is a question I never asked so I do not know the answer. But I do know that there are well more than three, and the members span cities, provinces, borders, straights, oceans and continents. Perhaps someone else can give a more definitive answer.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] radiance26:
To rlydiard: As I understand, on DFT website they suppose DFT have Mango, according to this article : http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/142293.htm

Chinese people seems to be waiting hard for chinese support.

Edit:

Would be a big surprise if it's the case ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
I am member of that website (DFT China), just like I am of XDA-Developers. One problem WP7 had in Asia is that localization has been slow, so one's English had to be pretty good. Naturally Chinese are looking for the OS in Chinese, but according to Microsoft, so far, only Simplified Chinese is going to be supported, not Traditional Chinese, as we use in Taiwan.

As for DFT having Mango already, well, no comments at this time, LOL.

Thanks for the heads up, anyway!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] dazza9075:
I completely agree, he seems to be doing a good job of being argumentative and damn right rude
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] huismeester:
I think about wp7 developement for hd2 is dead.

It is more than 5 weeks ago when dft there movie post on youtube (nodo ) and so fare no realese.

wel i have to buy a wp7 device :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] JonnieLasVegas:
Maybe not completely dead, but definitely delayed. I'm waiting for the next batch of WP7 devices & then definitely getting a native WP7 device. Will always keep & use my HD2, but it's almost time to move on to a new main device.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] napisweet:
Lets face it, its not just nodo update we are waiting for. Its the new MAgldr with all the goodies inside. Would come out as a package I would imagine maybe with winmo. Hope it comes soon as all im running at the minute is wp7 with no memory card or live services! I dont see the point in installing it all & dual boot etc if im just going to have to delete it all soon.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] antaed:
the 1st video showing wp7 on the hd2 was aired in october 2010.

the rom was available 3 months later, in january 2011.

we have to be patient people...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Kailkti:
Lawl cmon. Even android or WP7 took longer than 5 weeks. Lets just have faith I guess. But we can't always be expecting them anymore since the HD2 is now almost 2 years old. xD
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
There are still some hardcore loyalists (perhaps some members of DFT) that are still once in awhile coming up with new things for the HTC Himalaya that came out in 2003. If the Himalaya can keep going that long, it would seem to indicate that we should at least have a few more years of support for the HTC HD2, yes?

I am having a senior moment, so who is it who said that "reports of my death are greatly exaggerated" or something like that. Was it Mark Twain?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] decumano16:
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] :
decumano16,

Were you trying to say something? :)

Regards

Onlinegames
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
Patience

If any of you are interested ;) I did read a message on DFT China just a few moments ago pleading for patience and explaining that some DFT releases have been delayed due to work on redesigning MAGDLR. The message comes pretty straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

So, pretty much as some of us have been saying all along, you must have patience, and a bit of faith in DFT would not hurt.

I hope that puts a few minds at ease, and make the wait a little bit easier for some of you guys.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] huismeester:
Thank you Sir
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] m_mansour2:
Thank you

we waiting
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Dad57:
Many thx so we'll wait, not too long but we'll wait ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] warriorvibhu:
Yes very much interested sir .. thanks forbthe info .. BTW some posts back someone mentioned about DFT waiting for mango too .. with which I agree .. its better to wait now that Skype has been acquired by Microsoft..I really feel new release should come with mango .. yes new Magldr is very much required for new updates to work..so waiting very very patiently..
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] psycho1:
I don't have any problems waiting.. Love my hd2. love wp7. love dft for getting them together.. Waiting is not an issue
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Caillou666:
Sorry Guys, you lost me... Just wanna say goodbye to everyone after all this time following the developpement of WM6.5 and then Android 'till now on WP7 on my HD2... I'm tired now and I just bought an Iphone...

So long gentlemen!!!!

Long live XDA and DFT and all developpers!!!!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] tkts:
thank U for the info

:)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] orangekid:
It was indeed mark twain and you got he quote exactly right.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
Thanks, I can take a sigh of relief, and not dread so much soon passing into 6 decades sooner than I wish. Indeed a good day, some pay for a freelance writer, and positive news from DFT. Can't beat that, uh?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] napisweet:
If we are waiting for mango it could be a further month of waiting. Right now I have HD2 with no live services activated or mem card installed. Does anyone think its wise to install 16gb mem card & get my live activation services tonight?

I know when mango arrives I will have to install it all again.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] weeezel:
feel sad for you cuz you didnt have the discipline to just stay with one stable rom, instead you flashed your device like a maniac too many times. no worries our life is going on while yours seem to be stuck.

so long sucker

haha
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
Your activation key will still be good when you flash everything again. You will lose some programs and information, although I have read that at least one person recopied everything onto his SD card using whatever disk copy software I do not remember now.You can do a search on that in the general section for the HD2 WP7 forum.

As of now, I think we do not know when a new release from DFT will come for the HD2 WP7. If I were you I would go ahead and activate and enjoy WP7 on the HD2 until such time as a new release from DFT is announced.

Of course you must decide if you do not mind possibly losing some information and programs.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
We lay people really do not understand the devilish details of all the work that DFT, Cotulla, and others do for our benefit. It certainly is not as easy as we think. And we must remember that DFT not only works on our beloved HD2s, but also other models of HTC phones in other forums. I do not check those forums, but I think by now those of us in the HD2 WP7 forum will be the most polite and patient of all.

I hope you give DFT a proper amount of time. The pressure surely is great on DFT and Cotulla, and we here on this forum really have no need to add to that pressure. We will get what we want, and maybe more, all in time, if we are patient.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] napisweet:
Thanks! did so tonight :) Knowing my luck nodo will be released tomorrow but that cant be that bad can it
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] radiance26:
I'm not expecting a new build of WP7 specialy, 7004 buils is fine for me. Like some other people all that I wait is a better battery consumption management. After that it should be fine, with or without nodo ;).
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] :
I hope you guys get NoDo soon. i have gotta say the hd2 was the best choice in phone as it helped me pick the right OS. Android wasnt for me so i went with wp7 and now i got an HD7. Will probably get a used hd2 for my sis and hack it if any epic release occurs :rolleyes:

i look forward to contributing to wp7 in general whatever way i can...hd7 = hd2

lol I also hope DFT performs some magic on the hd7 also

edit:used the hd7 for one day and deciede that its too smilar to hd2, so switched back and id rather use android/wp7. Il wait till mango hardware. till then...bring on the nodo for hd2 ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] EscapeE:
yea right.u didn even got the hd7.come on man why bluffing....
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] radiance26:
Seems like DFT have chinese's Mango test version, according to this pic:

OR they have found a way to build a special chinese keyboard, in this case this post is not really interesting for us.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] :
whatever u say, i have no reason to "bluff". local swap...swapped back.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hd945157206:
黑暗軍團=dft >>哈哈