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[Android Apps and Games] zgfg:
Actually, my question was if you could try with MiXPlorer, without root:

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-2-2-mixplorer-v6-x-released-fully-featured-file-manager.1523691/

There are two versions in the post #1 to download:

MiXplorer_v6.58.5_B22090510.apk

and

MiXplorer_v6.58.5-API29_B22090520.apk

Ie, maybe the version built for the old API 29 could trick that MiXPlorer could see /Android/data on the Chromecast (I cannot have, cannot test)

I remember that I had a similar problem with an non-rooted A11 phone - I had to use MiX API-29 (A10) version to circumvent some restrictions coming with A11
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
May I politely ask you to limit posts in this thread to SD Maid items and to post MiXplorer related questions and concerns in the MiXplorer development or Q&A threads.

@Dark3n is most likely unable to fix any MiXplorer issues and doesn't need to have his thread cluttered.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Regards

Oswald Boelcke

Senior Moderator

@zgfg Please advise if you like your posts to be moved.
[Android Apps and Games] LostEchoes:
On my CCwGTV I have MixPlorer Silver (paid) but I'm not sure what version that is.

The initial problem - I think - is not actually / only whether MixPlorer can navigate to the /Android/data folder, but the fact that CCwGTV cannot see MixPlorer or any other file explorer as it's default file manager. So when SD Maid tries to use a file explorer to navigate that folder (to get the persmission), it simply cannot do anything because it finds no file explorer at all.

Just my 2 cents
[Android Apps and Games] LostEchoes:
I'm sorry, we posted at the same time !
[Android Apps and Games] zgfg:
My posts were about the problem that SD Maid cannot access /Android/data on the Chromecast, because of the restrictions imposed by A12

Hence my suggestion was to test if some other app, but the one built with an older target API level, like 29 (for A10) could access the same folder - because that might be a trick to circumvent the restrictions coming with A12 (API level 31 - the target level that SD-Maid is built for)

@LostEchoes - My point was actually to test with some app that was built for an older target level - and for that reason I suggested (sorry, I don't know any other one) but that specific MiXPlorer version built for the API -29 target.

Silver MiX from the Playstore is also most likely built for the API 31 target level

---

About the meanings and importance of API target levels can be found on Internet

API-29 corresponds to A10, API-30 to A11, API-31,31 to A12

If an app was built for the target level 29, it doesn't necessarily mean that it would not work on A12 (but Google enforces to build apps for the latest target API levels, among other reasons, to conform to their always more stringent new security restrictions)
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
@zgfg Sorry that I've obviously misread your posts. I assume I'm too often too <insert as you desire> to understand as SD Maid wasn't mentioned in any of the two posts. Apologies.

Regards

Oswald Boelcke
[Android Apps and Games] hoppi05:
Hi all and sorry if I am repeating a question asked multiple times (I did search the thread). My question is regarding the private default cache is not been cleared by SD maid? I am running Android 13, not rooted but with custom ROM (CF droid). I have checked access multiple times and SD maid looks to have all the permissions I can assume it needs.

Any help or tips to get it clearing this cache would be very much appreciated. Or if the answer is simply it cannot unless rooted?

Cheers
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
"Private default cache" is /data/data/<pkg>/cache or /"sdcard"/Android/data/<pkg>/cache

On Android 13 this can be cleared without root if you use the accessibility service option.
[Android Apps and Games] hoppi05:
Hi and thank you for the reply.

This is strange as I have that enabled and it hasn't cleared it down? I'll be honest this did also happen on some custom android 12 ROMs (all pixel based).

Just to be clear hen you say accessibility service options. Is this just permitting the app to have accessibility access by click the toggle to on?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
You need to turn it on in AppCleaner settings, which should then prompt you to enable the service in the system.

Some devices have trouble keeping the service running due to overzealous battery optimizations, requiring a reboot to get it started again. Some troubleshooting tips can be found here:

AppCleaner

SD Maid is an Android app that helps you manage files and apps. - d4rken-org/sdmaid

github.com

FYI

In contrast to other permissions, "Permitting accessibility" in the system settings also actually launches the accessibility service itself. Apps can't launch it themselves, it has to be launched by the system. So if for some reason the service isn't running, SD Maid can't restart it either (but will show an error to inform you).

Sometimes toggling the service off/on again restarts it, but if the "battery optimizers" outright killed the service, then the system may treat it as "malfunctioning" and punish it. If that happens often enough, the service will not run until the device is rebooted. Might be a way the AOSP devs came up with to prevent buggy services from rendering the device unusable. :unsure:
[Android Apps and Games] hoppi05:
Hi there and thank you. I have now turned off battery optimization for Android accessibility suite. As all other settings were as they should be.

I will let you know if changing the optimisation works or not. 👍🎄

Just to be clear the only message I get from SD maid after my scheduled cleaning task is that it states 'failed' that's all?
[Android Apps and Games] hoppi05:
Unfortunately this still failed after following all the recommendations 😕

Also on the last image these are the files it never deletes regardless of how many times it's run, I am assuming it is unable to access them for some reason? This has happened on multiple android 12 and 13 ROMs?
[Android Apps and Games] zgfg:
For me everything works on A12 (Xiaomi), with Basic version but the phone is rooted (Magisk) and SD Maid is granted the root (su) rights
[Android Apps and Games] hoppi05:
I do recall when fully rooted in the past this did work perfectly too so it may be to do 2ith ROM specific issues or android restrictions of some kind when not rooted?
[Android Apps and Games] gongfish:
Quick Access - Applications. When scanning, it detects 2 GB of garbage, then cleans it for a very long time, and in fact deletes only 16 MB. How to solve this problem?
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
Did you submit an error report to @Dark3n?

Spoiler content hidden.
[Android Apps and Games] KOLIOSIS:
I'm running Android 14 on the Pixel 6 Pro (unrooted) & it appears that the cleaner function is no longer working.

Is this possibly related to the following :

Google is Preparing to Crack Down on Apps that Claim to Speed up Your Android Phone

"Task killer" and "speed booster" apps do nothing or can harm your Android phone, so Google is cracking down on them.

blog.esper.io
[Android Apps and Games] Thebear j koss:
Doubtful. More likely a permissions thing as android 14 won't be out for another 6 months...
[Android Apps and Games] KOLIOSIS:
Sounds right....

The cleaner attempts to do its job on an app, several times, without success.

Then, it moves on to the next app, same thing.

Once its done it's thing on every app, at the end, it shows 0 kb cleaned.

Just wanted to put it out there, in the event others are considering taking Android 14 for a test drive......
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
This sounds more like the UI changed and SD Maid doesn't find the right elements to click.

Can you share a debug log of this so I can see what SD Maid sees?
[Android Apps and Games] k44mos:
Is there a way to download a trustworthy apk of SD Maid Pro? I'm afraid what I find online are not virus free.
[Android Apps and Games] Thebear j koss:
The play store. Downloading from those sites are considered WAREZ and you are basically stealing from developers. Install sd maid from the play store and there is a go pro link.
[Android Apps and Games] wugga3:
Just noticed this fails to delete every time.

Not sure why or what's changed between my device and/or the app to cause this.

Other than that this is my go to app for all of its features which have served me well. Well worth the price of the PRO features and to support the developer of this fine application.
[Android Apps and Games] Thebear j koss:
It has no size. It's 0bytes. Probably a placeholder for that app.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
12 years ago SD Maid 1 started on XDA, in this thread, in March 2011.

So I think it's in good tradition that SD Maid 2 does so too :giggle::

[APP][8.0+] SD Maid 2/SE - System Cleaner

SD Maid SE (aka. SD Maid 2) is the successor to SD Maid (SD Maid 1/ SD Maid Legacy). A new app, optimized for modern Android versions, and ready for Google's future challenges 😌. Description: SD Maid SE is an open-source zero-bull**** system...

xdaforums.com

I'd be thrilled if any of you would help me test it.

I promise it's not as rough around the edges as SD Maid 1's first versions 😅.

SD Maid 2 shares some features with SD Maid 1 but not all:

Currently available are CorpseFinder, SystemCleaner, AppCleaner and AppControl.

I'm very likely re-adding a StorageAnalyzer.

Still on the fence about the Explorer and Duplicates tool.

Not planning to re-add the Searcher or Databases tool.

I want to focus on more narrow set of core tools to not spread my time too thin.

Why a new SD Maid?

I like working on SD Maid, but I'm burning out on the codebase.

All the time I could spend on improvements is drained away by adjusting to Google's ever changing requirements.

The codebase just wasn't designed for what Google requires with every new Android version.

The last major rewrite of the same magnitude was in 2015 when we went from v3 to v4.

https://github.com/d4rken-org/sdmaid/blob/master/changelogV4.md#sd-maid-400---2015-12-18-beta

I'm basically doing one band-aid fix after another...

I can and want to do better... I want to update the UI too, more modern, theming...

Basically tear the whole app down and rebuild it...

But SD Maid 1 has a huge user-base, of which one half would be happy about a rewrite as an update and the other half would scream in terror about me ruining the app.

They liked it the way it was.

(I personally wouldn't like it either if a dev just changed the whole app with an update.)

So the solution was obvious: A fresh start.

Write a new SD Maid, make it a separate app and let both co-exist.

People can keep using SD Maid 1 or switch to SD Maid 2 at their discretion.

SD Maid 1 will keep getting some updates (security fixes, etc.), but no new features or bug fixes related to changes in new Android versions.

You can switch to SD Maid 2/SE if you have at least Android 8, and you should probably switch if you have Android 12+.

You may also like that SD Maid 2/SE is open source!

There is still a pro version. If you download from Google Play, you are required to buy it, if you download from Github you are asked to donate.

For what SD Maid needs to do, quite a lot of sensitive permissions are required.

More so with each Android update.

With all of the malicious actors in this space, I think it's prudent that apps with so much power become more transparent.

I've contemplated open-sourcing SD Maid 1 too, but for now decided against it.

It's not set up to be a "nice open source project" and the 10 years of commit history might contain swear words towards certain companies and other things that I don't want to accidentally publish 😅.
[Android Apps and Games] Furious Froyo:
Does the new version allow me to install APK's? I know you had to remove that option with the previous version because of Google.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Currently not. I'm on the fence whether I should re-add explorer features or leave that to "real" explorer apps.

e.g. I never managed to catch up with a smooth mechanism to install apk bundles... :(

Dev time wise, the explorer was super costly...

Do you know if any explorer apps lost the install permission? I argued with Google a bit and got the feeling that they don't want any app to have that permission.
[Android Apps and Games] BROKEN1981:
Solid explorer can
[Android Apps and Games] :
Hi, I'm a new user for sdmaid. Can I use the "old" version on Samsung S23? Because I see on Google Play that sdmaid 2 is in early access and I'd like to wait for not beta release. Thanks. I purchase the pro version: that purchase works also for sdmaid 2 or only for "old" version. Thanks again.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
There is no device you can't use SD Maid 1 on.

How well it performs in comparison to SD Maid 2 depends on your device, and your apps.

SD Maid 1 Pro is only valid for SD Maid 1.
[Android Apps and Games] tkalli:
Hi Dark3n,

Been a long while. Just noticed the new version which I will certainly download. I am on Android 14(Beta) and not sure why, but SD Maid runs very slowly when deleting. I assume it is Android 14.
[Android Apps and Games] tkalli:
As I just posted App Cleaner ran very slowly, about 25 minutes and 0 B deleted.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
You can record a debug log of this and I'll have a look, but if this is not a simple fix then I don't plan on fixing it for SD Maid 1, will do though for SD Maid 2 if it also happens there.
[Android Apps and Games] tkalli:
Switched to SD Maid 2 Pro. AppCleaner running slower than it did on SD Maid 1 when on Android 13.

Has to be Android 14.
[Android Apps and Games] tkalli:
Back on Android 13. SD Maid working fine.
[Android Apps and Games] pacurro:
Good, it doesn't work to delete cache on android 14
[Android Apps and Games] wugga3:
Just wondering when I've ran both version of SD maid and SD Maid SE... Why the results are so varied of both the number of items and the reported size? None the less been loving SD Maid Pro for many years now across many devices. Thanks d4rken.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Would be useful to show actual details between both results, like paths 🙃.
[Android Apps and Games] wugga3:
Thanks for the instruction and help.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Item counts seem to mostly match, seems to be a only a difference in size calculation. 68kB vs 365kB for the same 47 /data/system/dropbox logs :unsure:

Not sure which one is more accurate here, will have to try and reproduce.
[Android Apps and Games] Bigman0988:
I'm a newbie, and not tech savvy at all, but I did root my phone. Is the paid version worth getting?
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
I'm using the paid version with full satisfaction already for years. From my point of view defintely worth to get it. However, my personal stance is to even buy a paid version although there might be no additional benefit but to support the developer and the development and to show my appreciation of the work and time invested.

Regards

Oswald Boelcke

Senior Moderator
[Android Apps and Games] whoosename:
I defintively agree to @Oswald Boelcke. I'm using SD Maid for years too. with rooted and unrooted devices. There's no better app for cleaning purposes. As for the paid version, you'll get some benefits from. And the developer deserves to be supported by the users (us).
[Android Apps and Games] blackhawk:
I agree with Oswald Boelcke and whoosename as well. Been using the paid version (recommend the paid version) for years on my stock N10+. It gets stuff nothing else touches. Hasn't caused any damage including the SD card data.

It's one of the reasons my current load is over 3 years old now and still running well. I use SD Maid, Device Care (old 360° version, firewall blocked), Galaxy App Booster and clear the system cache for routine maintenance. That combo works very well for me.
[Android Apps and Games] hanschke:
I have done the change for my parents too and buy it for my dad again like before to support your work again.
[Android Apps and Games] Bigman0988:
Thank you so much, guys. I'll be buying it.

What I also should have asked the first time is about the /system part. There is an option to include /system in the app control function for debloating apps.

Can this app delete things in /system folder? I see the option there for it (is not like I know which apps/functions are safe to delete anyway, but if like to research that).

I'll be trying it the apps you've listed. My phone had been LAGGY after root for some reason. I think it's gotten a bit better though after clearing up some stuff, but not quite.
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
Affirmative, if you have root and grant root to SD Maid it certainly can. Know very well what you doing in such a case! Maybe @Dark3n is able to elaborate more precisely than me or he might even recommend his new app as better suited for your needs:

[APP][8.0+] SD Maid 2/SE - System Cleaner

SD Maid SE (aka. SD Maid 2) is the successor to SD Maid (SD Maid 1/ SD Maid Legacy). A new app, optimized for modern Android versions, and ready for Google's future challenges 😌. Description: SD Maid SE is an open-source zero-bull**** system...

xdaforums.com
[Android Apps and Games] rsngfrce:
If you are interested in a cleaner, SD Maid WAS the one to get, all the others are pale imitations. However, SD Maid is now only recieving maintenance updates and won't be fixed if Google breaks it. It has been replaced by SD Maid 2 which currently, at least, has less functions.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
SD Maid SE should be able to clean more effectively in most cases, the newer your ROM and apps are, the better SD Maid 2/SE will be, vs SD Maid 1.

SD Maid 1 is better at uninstalling system apps though. This is currently not supported at all in SD Maid 2/SE and I'm not sure if I'll add it.

SD Maid 1 is also only able to do this on some ROMs. In general it's super trivcky and there is no "one size fits all" when going for uninstall of pre-installed apps. This was a huge pain point in SD Maid 1 and I have not found any solutions to make this easier. In many cases you basically need both ROM and root specific approaches to correctly uninstall pre-installed apps / system apps. I just can't keep up with that or buy hundreds of different ROMs to get this right (and it changes with every major Android update).

Combined with the danger that this poses (soft bricking your device), I'm currently thinking this is something that is better suited for ROM specific debloating scripts.
[Android Apps and Games] shaggyskunk:
I've had SD Maid Pro for ages - Just installed SD Maid 2 on my Unrooted S20 Ultra Snapdragon variant 👍🏻✨
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
I'm currently thinking about an import/export feature for SystemCleaner filter in SD Maid 2, and specifically an import feature for SD Maid 1 filters.

Could some export and share their SD Maid 1 SystemCleaner custom filters with me?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
@rodken Thanks but those are exclusions. I'm looking for custom systemcleaner filters.
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
I haven't used any yet because I had no need. However, I'm happy to create one and to submit. Any special requirements?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Thanks Oswald, but I already created test filters myself, this is more about seeing some "real-life" filters out in the wild, maybe people are doing crazy stuff that I never envisioned and I need to account for that 😁
[Android Apps and Games] Kindlys:
Привет

Я очень хочу приобрести ваш продукт SD Maid S/E, но G pay мне не дает.

Пожалуйста, укажите другие способы оплаты

Hello

I really want to purchase your product SD Maid S/E, but G pay does not give me.

Please specify other payment methods
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
I don't plan to offer extra payment options for SD Maid SE outside of Google Play, the overhead is too large.

You can just download the FOSS build from GitHub though and if possible donate via GitHub.

If that is also not possible then just don't worry about it and use the FOSS build, maybe donate something to a local charity instead :giggle:.
[Android Apps and Games] lee99:
SD Maid terminated from Play Store due to 'Stalkerware policy'

The developer lost access to his 12-year-old Google account, too

www.androidpolice.com
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
@Dark3n Is that true, my friend? Just days ago I've update my SD Maid Pro and SD Maid via Google Play Store. But I'm not wondering, Google has already (insert the word you like) so many great developers in the past! The should ban their own constantly privacy abusing crap.
[Android Apps and Games] shaggyskunk:
Well

That's just ridiculous! I don't know if SD Maid was victim to Google's Bots or their AI - But there's no substitute for human brains for this type of thing.

I remember more than 30 years ago attending a seminar given by CSIS (Canadian version of the CIA) - Part of the discussion was surrounding how keywords in telephone conversations could trigger closer inspection.

The examples given were something like this:

Mom talking to some friends about her kid's performance in a school play.

"Yeah, we had a *BLAST* last night watching our kid, he didn't *BOMB* in it, but he didn't exactly *KILL* it either. We were hoping to *SHOOT* some video of the school play, but the camera *DIED*"

Essentially that was the example of what could lead to an "up close & personal" investigation of your entire life!

Would have hoped that 30 years later - People would have learned not to use the same - Antiquated & Misleading information.. Hopefully Dark3n will be able to get it resolved! 🤞🏻
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
On Monday at 21:44 I got two mails, one for each SD Maid, stating that they are violating the "Stalkerware policy". The mails said the apps are permanently removed and suggested that If I can fix that, I could reupload them under a new ID and name...

16 minutes later I got another mail that my whole developer account is terminated.

A few days before that I only updated the SDK levels on SD Maid 1 to match new policy requirements. SD Maid 2 had no updates in the last week.

I submitted my appeal this morning. I hope that someone gives me a fair chance when reviewing it.

Appealing against unknown proof of accusations in 1000 worlds or less, is not great.

I don't know why they would think SD Maid is "Stalkerware", it makes no sense to me.

I'm feeling pretty down at the moment. My inbox is already filling up with concerned users, I don't yet how I will continue if this doesn't get resolved.

I hope this is automation gone wrong, and Google realises this quickly.
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
I hope that Android Police (one of the other websites of our owners) intervention does help:
[Android Apps and Games] shaggyskunk:
Would something like a Patreon account work on XDA or?
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
Negative. It wouldn't...

Regards

Oswald Boelcke

Senior Moderator
[Android Apps and Games] gettinwicked:
Total BS! I was wondering what happened! I got a new phone, copied all it's apps over, went to use it and it wasn't there. Looked on the play store, nothing.. Man, I hope it gets resolved! It's by far the best app for it's use case.. I'm not sure what else to even use...
[Android Apps and Games] rodken:
I would have to assume that you already visited this page for reference.
[Android Apps and Games] gettinwicked:
I hadn't. I need the pro unlocked though too. App cache is what I use it for the most.
[Android Apps and Games] ze7zez:
You can do what many developers do: one version for the store for users who trust google, and another version on your own site for users who trust the developer. I know that creating and maintaining a variant is difficult to do and cumbersome to handle payments from customers, but this way you can protect your own solutions.
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
As Marcel (aka @M66B) has currently a similar issue with Google, things are probably not so easily to solve with a dedicated Google version. Personally, I rather trust well known developers than Google.
[Android Apps and Games] rsngfrce:
Both versions are still on Apkmirror, though that doesn't help with the pro unlocker.