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[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
Turning Journaling off lead to a very slight gain in performance, but comes with the risk of data corruption if you improperly shut down your phone, because of this Devs are offering a choice between slightly improved performance or increased stability.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IAmSixNine:
Give me Stability. :) I was on a rom once like that, seemed after a few weeks it would become unstable. I didnt realize it was from not shutting down properly. Just thought it became corrupt over time.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevesprivateaccount:
If you give me a stable application set and stable OS, then I'll happily exist on no-journaling, however since we are often on custom roms, with exploits, and there is always a chance of a kernel crash, there is a higher risk of unexpected reboots, and sometimes it is better to have a journaling FS.

That said, flash devices are prone to write wear and expedited hardware failures when the same block same is rewritten too many times.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musclehead84:
Developers are just trying to accommodate everyone. To many people complained about data corruption so they implemented journal enabled

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djgallis:
im glad they did ........
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbadboy2007:
I haven't had an issue with journalling off that I didn't do to my self. So I don't care on or off w.e.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cblack4:
Are there any PS3 Boot Animations out there? not a game based theme but a general PS3 boot animation. I have looked and can not find any.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husker91:
I would also like this
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cblack4:
NO ONE? WOW someone needs to create one. i would but don't know how to.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husker91:
Haha same here bud, I'll read up on it and try to make one.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aaronb1980:
as far as i know there's only the xbox360 boot ani. fid it an hit up the creator to see if he/she can help you out
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husker91:
Hey op, I should have a beta up in a little bit, I had a really hard time finding a good quality ps3 startup animation so we'll see how it turns out. If you find one let me know.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cblack4:
hey let us know how it turns out. There are quite a few of us looking forward to it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gruesomewolf:
Have you guys even looked at this? What do you not like about it, because it doesnt seem like anybody even checked out the thread, if there is so many of you looking for it then why dont you just let me what you dont like about this one. I did not include the sony computer entertainment, for obvious reasons. But I even included the sound. Just check it out.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1018013
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cblack4:
honestly i didn't even see it man looks good tho. only request would be can we get it in Blue?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gruesomewolf:
Yeah man if I can find a decent looking blue one I would be happy to do it for ya, I will look around and get back to ya
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gruesomewolf:
cblack4, if you check out my first thread you will find a black/grey one. Still working on the blue. But I figure thats better then purple!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mattgattis:
I am trying to get a snapshot of the android kernel as of linux kernel 2.6.32.21. I see a archive/android-2.6.32 branch on android.git.kernel.org (kernel/common.git), but it's based on linux kernel 2.6.32.9. HTC seems to have forked at 2.6.32.21 to make their device modifications, and I would like to diff the before and after to see just changes they made.

Anyone familiar with this?
[Thunderbolt General] mitchell4500:
What do you think of this phones build? Initillay I thought it was great and solid... After some use Im starting to think its worse then I thought.

Why:

Screen Scratches and Cracks easily.

Power Button is sinking in.

Light Leaks

Bottom Lip Peals?

Location of charging port (Kinda Stupid)

Battery Life... (Not really build quality but still)

Kickstand Coating peels?

What do you think?
[Thunderbolt General] magneticzero:
Lucky I havent come across those problems yet... So i say its good minus the tiny crevice around the screen, they could of designed it to be one solid piece....
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
me personally, i have not had any of these issues. I had the light bleeding issue real bad, and exchanged my phone and have been issue free since.
[Thunderbolt General] WilliamStern:
Yeah, I have no idea what your talking about? I don't have any of these issue, and I happen to think the build quality of the phone is fantastic!
[Thunderbolt General] patches152:
i'll see if i can get any info about warranty exchanges for any of these issues since launch from VZW. i haven't heard anything about any of these issues prior to today when i read about kickstand "paint" peeling, but it seems to me that it's a metal finish. i don't see paint on mine at all.
[Thunderbolt General] Thrillhouse847:
I agree 100% with your statements about the charging port and the light leaks on the bottom buttons but I haven't really had any of those other problems.
[Thunderbolt General] mitchell4500:
Thanks for the replies lol. Im having all of these problems except for the bottom lip thing.
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
I think that HTC must have issues with the quality control of their manufacturing. The MT4G had all sorts of issues ranging from good/bad screen displays, light leaks, off center FFC, creaky buttons, etc, and I switched my EVO once due to light leak issues as well
[Thunderbolt General] mitchell4500:
Off Set FFC? I definitely got that lol. I thought it was like that on purpose.

I just called them about all these things and they didnt want anything to do with me. They told me to go to the store.
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
The thunderbolt doesn't seem to have as good of build materials as some other phones HTC has made recently. Desire, nexus one, and desire s in particular. But its still decent enough, just not top notch.
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
The only problem i've noticed is the power button sinking in. If it gets to be a big problem hopefully there will be a recall
[Thunderbolt General] qwirked:
The ffc isn't supposed to be offset?
[Thunderbolt General] athorax:
My only real complaint is the kickstand/usb configuration.
[Thunderbolt General] digitalscars:
one major design flaw i dont like is the placement of the LED, being inside the ear piece makes it difficult to see sometimes when you have a notificiation, espeically at an angle.
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
thats not really a flaw, they did the same thing with the evo
[Thunderbolt General] HorsexD:
The Front Facing Camera IS SUPPOSED TO BE a little to the Right with black on the left. ITS MADE LIKE THAT. Google Pictures of it and you will see they are all like that. :)
[Thunderbolt General] Strife21:
I think the volumbe buttons are terrible they get stuck some times and become untactile and sink in.

Also on three different thunderbolts I have had issues with the headphone jack losing sound to the left speaker if the the plug turns to a certain point or is pushed gently to the right. Driving me nuts.
[Thunderbolt General] 1454:
The two bolded ones are the only biggies I have had. The former much worse than the latter. I have slight light leaks, but honestly if I had never seen a post about it I would have never even known it was there. The only thing I would add is the speaker location, or at least put holes in the kickstand. I still kinda miss my HW keyboard, as I am much slower with the OSKB. But really that is just a preference issue that LTE more than makes up for. I do kinda wish it had a builtin HDMI, but still LTE makes up for that too. The only thing that really aggravated me was the kickstand direction/charging port location. Personally I wish they would just put the usb on the bottom like the evo. But that is just me. That's really about all I can add.
[Thunderbolt General] ERIFNOMI:
I did this too and the phone I got doesn't bleed much...but the vibration motor is ROUGH (feels like it vibrated loose) and the plastic chin piece is pretty much just hanging there. I'm going to a more helpful Verizon store this time and making sure I get a good one. If I pay this much for a phone, it better be built pretty well.
[Thunderbolt General] timothymilla:
I personally noticed the light leak the night I got my thunderbolt, which is the night of the launch, and it's really getting on my nerves. Coming from an eris, I'm used to the light leak from the lights behind the menu buttons at the bottom, but my thunderbolt has extra light leaks around the bottom casing. My only thought is that if light can get through, so can water. Being a daily swimmer, I want my phone to be as waterproof as possible. I bought a silicon case and screen cover for the phone, mostly to cover up the light leak and atleast for me, the bacl cover creaks ever so slightly... I dont know if thats just because it's on wrong or what... I'm afraid to take it off again cause it's so tight. Having just dropped $300 and signed my soul into another 2 year contact, I want my phone to be as perfect as possible, and I truly think I found this in the thunderbolt. Has anyone had these problems in later models (were they just early manufacturing defects?) I'm contemplating returning my thunderbolt for a new one. Also... Did I mention I'm an android developer and that's where the money came from to buy my thunderbolt?? Haha

Sent from my rooted s-off Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] ERIFNOMI:
That was my thinking timothymilla. Everyone at the Verizon store just said I was being picky and after talking to 3 people in there, the manager came out and I explained to her that I paid $300 for this phone and renewed my contract for another 2 years. I want a phone that's as perfect as possible since it might have to last 2 years. She tried to talk me out of it because "basically there's a $600 phone [they] can't sell" but that's not my problem. Send it back to HTC. $600 means NOTHING to Verizon anyway. How much do they spend a DAY on upgrading their network? Probably so much that $600 isn't even noticeable.
[Thunderbolt General] Picolini:
Do you know how often companies are begged to reimburse customers for every little thing, even when it's not the companies fault? If they just gave in to every request, whether it be $10 or $600, they would lose money very, very quickly. Sure they'd still turn a profit but it wouldn't be near what it is.

And yes, I am stating that if anything like what OP said is happening on your phone, it's your fault. I don't overly baby my Tbolt, I've got no case and no screen protector. I throw it in my pocket with my keys and my lighter all the time and have yet to see any even slight scratch, even on the soft-touch battery cover.

And really, battery life isn't about build quality. It's about hardware components. On that subject, I which the battery cover matched the same gray as the rest of the phone. I'm not a fan of the two-tone look.
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
so ive noticed that if you take off the battery door the power button rises back up, but then putting back on sinks it in.. maybe we could fix that?
[Thunderbolt General] milan03:
My power button is almost flat. Definitely sinking in.
[Thunderbolt General] nerozehl:
I've had the phone for about a week now and I have had no problems with it (except the battery life, which seemed to resolve itself after a few charges from full to empty and back.) I think I would have prefered a metal casing but I'll live with what I have.
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
again this is only with the battery door in, take it off and its fine.. soo its confusing
[Thunderbolt General] Boss428man:
Mines fine, hope you guys aren't this hard on your girlfriends.. jk
[Thunderbolt General] milan03:
Should I cut the case lol? Ehh design...
[Thunderbolt General] azbryan3:
Hahahaha!!!
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
maybe theres a generic one we can buy or see if another one will work
[Thunderbolt General] craighwk:
So is the power button a good enough reason to get a replacement? Mine is pretty much flush with the phone now and hard to press. Are all the phones experiencing this?
[Thunderbolt General] DS36:
Hmm try sliding the battery panel down ...it helps some
[Thunderbolt General] gemitero:
Just wondering , but could you guys be pressing to hard on the power button? Even by getting a replacement more than likely it'll start to sink in again. Just a thought :)
[Thunderbolt General] craighwk:
No:confused:
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
please explain what you mean man i dont get it lol
[Thunderbolt General] patches152:
the battery cover, slide it "down" as in onto your phone more securely. lolomgwtfbbqchkn!
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
Well you can't really slide it per se lol. I tried some tricks with it and nothing :/ and now my battery door has a small gap in it from me taking it off alot lol. I'll wait and if it breaks then ill exchange it.
[Thunderbolt General] drumz0rz:
I bought the case from Verizon that has the red silicon liner and the hard rubberized plastic shell. I'm normally against phone cases (I used my blackberry's holster for the full 2 years) but for a $600 phone I wanted to protect it. I also got the screen protectors for the obvious same reason. That being said and examination of the phone sans/ case reveals none of the listed issues.
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
Lol I have the same set up. Same here it doesn't show anything but i like taking the case off sometimes to look at how sexy my phone is ;)
[Thunderbolt General] milan03:
that's why I never buy a case within the first 3 months. Always wanna feel that baby in my hand.
[Thunderbolt General] Jon C:
I'm just lurking here, researching this phone...but...

I have an HTC Glacier on T-Mo, and I experienced the exact same problem with that device (which is a very similar phone). The power button stopped working entirely within 2 months (the plunger completely failed and the button was 100% flush / unusable), leaving the trackpad as my only option to waking the device. Ridiculous store reps tried to word things to make me feel like an asshole, saying things like: "We're sorry that the power button isn't working to your liking". In my case, I had to call customer service over the phone to arrange an exchange.

Seeing as the TB doesn't even have an optical pad, I would immediately exchange a device with a faulty power button. Otherwise, how else will you use your phone when it eventually fails?

My replacement Glacier is going on a month, and the power button works decently. The trackpad shares the load for me, but I can easily (and unfortunately) see the power button being the first to go again. It's definitely 'soft' or a bit squishy, coming from the awesome iPhone lock button. There's no question about it: as awesome as HTC is, their Quality Control has gone waaaaaay downhill from 2010. :(

If it helps any: with the HTC Glacier, we figured out that there was some difference between the units manufactured in China versus those crafted in Taiwan (check your packaging; we had different firmware versions as well). The Taiwanese units had the most overall defects (off-center camera, low-quality screen, etc.), and made up the entire shipment of launch units. Within a month, Chinese-built units (I assume from FoxConn?) made their way into the supply, and were of a much better build in terms of consistency.

Good luck, guys. Looking to get a TB this week, so I hope they figure things out. Definitely some bone-headed design decisions, but it is an attractive phone. My dream would be to have the Droid Inc. 2 in the same form-factor as the original, with LTE; but that's a pipe dream, for sure. :(
[Thunderbolt General] Ubermicro13:
The build quality definitley is not as good as a Motorola. But its not cheaply made.
[Thunderbolt General] guruleenyc:
I think the placement of the micro usb port is worse than apples iphone antenna problem. How is one supposed to catch up on hours of Fringe or use as a desk clock all day....?

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[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
What???:eek: I don't have any of these problems. TBolt has been great. Solid as a rock. Just like my HTC DInc no problems at all.

I would return yours and get a new one. ASAP...
[Thunderbolt General] racinwarrior:
the only real problem i am having is the power button "sinking" in
[Thunderbolt General] racinwarrior:
actually i think it feels better than my DX did
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
I think the one on our phones is supposed to be like that, every single one including the picture of the TB on HTC website is like that, but the MT4G had some phones where it was centered perfectly, others where it was clearly off center, not off set.
[Thunderbolt General] vitsdroid:
I had light leaks and a tiny gap that I fixed with black silicone all around the screen. I then noticed a dead pixel its very tiny an not noticeable unless I am watching a movie with dark scenes and then its this red speck. Verizon shipped me a new one, should arrive today. Otherwise I have not had any issues. I also think I am going to use the silicone on all my new phones, its not visible but keeps dust from getting into the tiny gaps.
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
Contacted HTC about the button sinking... naturally they told me to go to verizon..
[Thunderbolt General] magneticzero:
because verizon is the one who sold you the phone and they are the ones who handle the warranty exchanges :rolleyes:
[Thunderbolt General] justin344:
Mine has bounced across the floor and held up pretty well. :)
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
i realize that, but i was hoping they would give me some insight as to why the hell this is happening
[Thunderbolt General] magneticzero:
As I have been reading in the forum here, if you take your battery cover off the button will pop right back up. It might be an issue with the battery cover rubbing against the button and getting stuck down. Give that a shot and see if that is the case.
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
Yeh I posted that a while back, when you put the cover back on it sinks back in
[Thunderbolt General] Strife21:
Not true htc will repair the device but that entails you sending it to them, which means your out of a phone for that amount of time. Thus the reason they recommend you going to verizon.
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
So I just went to the verizon store and they wouldn't replace it since it still works. I tried all the ones in the store and compared it to the managers phone and they all have the same problem. He said it's the phone settling in, but I don't know if that's true. Then again the guy had never had anyone come in for this problem
[Thunderbolt General] ERIFNOMI:
My phone CAME with these problems though. I just couldn't go right back to the store because it had closed by the time I go home and used it and then I went out of town for the weekend and had class this week. I finally found time today and I haven't been more angry than I was today for quite a long time.

EDIT:Today my phone would not connect to 3G. I got 1X all day. Unrooted and I even factory wiped. So I went to Verizon and they're sending me a new one overnight. No data until then except where I have 3WiFi.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlzp:
there are many ways to do it being on ugjl2 doesn't matter. I have a bell phone and i used super one click
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcarr622:
Not development.

There are tons of tutorials and methods to do this. Please read before posting.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dopplerfx:
UGJL2 is not a problem. One click root app did it for me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luster_12x:
Yes I've read some of those threads, but i'm not sure which one is good. If you have any suggestions then can you please tell me?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcarr622:
SuperOneClick or Z4 Root are just fine...seriously, it's not hard, just search & read!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GibMcFragger:
I used Superoneclick on my Bell. Worked fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luster_12x:
Mind linking me the superoneclick file?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcarr622:
Please Search! http://lmgtfy.com/?q=SuperOneClick
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GibMcFragger:
LOL I love LMGTFY. I find myself linking it far too often......hahaha :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luster_12x:
Hey I already tried this before, it didn't work because I have 3e
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luster_12x:
Really? If I piss you off that much why do you keep on looking at this thread?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcarr622:
It's habitual. I finish things through no matter how "annoyed" I may appear, I'm here because I wan't to be :)

If SuperOneClick didn't work for you then try Z4 root.

If all you need is root then 3e shouldn't matter at all, that only matters for recovery.

And the easiest way to get recovery (plus a lot more) is to flash a kernel like Voodoo or Hardcore like Odin.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g00ndu:
while reading through this thread, i was thinking that someone WILL use the lmgtfy. and bingo! but what i didn't expect was the big fonts. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g00ndu:
heh, op you better click the thank you button for him. he has provided a lot of useful information!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcarr622:
I figured I'd make it so he couldn't miss it :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dopplerfx:
You have to flash a custom kernel through odin to bypass the recovery 3e so you can get CWM to flash any custom rom :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ysr84:
WOW!!!! can be easier than that....
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] warmy18:
HTC desire failed during an o2 update.

Can only get to black htc screen on start and can't boot into recovery.

I have downloaded the stock o2 rom 2.14 and this fails to install at 90% with error code 110

Tried to install via zip file using fastboot commands. Running out of ideas can someone please point me to a possible solution. I have created a gold card and no matter what i do I can't mount this card via the phone because it's just booting to black screen. Any help appreciated.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kluzik1:
so your phone was rooted and now you want to go back to stock ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] warmy18:
yeah it was rooted :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kluzik1:
Maybe you didn't create goldcard properly or the software is older than you had previously on your phone. The best is to try flash WWE 2.29 cause it's the latest not a branded update from the network. Try this way here is a link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=869048
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kluzik1:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=880268

this may help