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[Epic 4G Android Development] Krazy_P@:
So 1.2Ghz= badass (even tho not a step in this kernel just sayin ;) ) 1.3Ghz= phone happy snappy n kickin tons o ass... but... 1.4Ghz=Insta brick, my silicon is weak apparently... not complaining @ all but as soon as I lift my finger off screen in set cpu setting 1.4 it scales up to 1.4 for a nano sec n freezes saying its @ 100 even if 200 is lowest setting...multiple tries but I gotta say damn yo this thing flies @ 1.3 luvin it
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yeah, some phones are just like that :o At least we have 1.3 to fall back on if that happens :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
Well I was going to flash this after a couple days of running srf 1.1.0 @1.3Ghz, but so many good posts . I figured screw it, let me see how good it is.

SRF was running great on the twilight kernel, just for the record.;-) This vision kernel is running great as well and then some. Well done thomas, now I need to go give thanks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] carlosaf1020:
Is there any thing special I have to do to enable voodoo color like how voodoo control app is for voodoo sound?
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Nope, enabled and tweaked by default :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] justinglock40:
do we really need voodoo color since it only shows significance at 100%. how about a optional 78FPS kernel and a Voodoo Color Kernel??? Maybe?
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
It also saves some battery ;) :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] shigmata:
Thumbs up on the kernel!!!!! Been running 1.4 for about 30 mins now. Played about 10 mins in Modern Combat 2, fast fast fast!!!! Going to grab some benchmarks now. :D:):D:)
[Epic 4G Android Development] justinglock40:
Sighs....Fine...LOL
[Epic 4G Android Development] justinglock40:
How much battery does it save?
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Not sure the count exactly, hard to measure ;) Saves display power though.
[Epic 4G Android Development] justinglock40:
Fine....LOL... Do you guys have any other groundbreaking things in the works?
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
We're ACS. Of course :p :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] justinglock40:
Let me guess is it TV-OUT with 7-days of battery life lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Close; TV out, 17.9 GHZ OC running on 1V, and 29 days of battery :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] Top Nurse:
I sincerely doubt you would have a problem on a phone that runs at 1.4 Ghz + based on my hypothesis of varability of components. Don't be gun shy just because you got kicked in the shoulder when firing a .50 cal sniper rifle. :)

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[Epic 4G Android Development] cyberdog433:
Didn't see the response until after I was done, but I'm now on stock ACS 1.1.0 again. Oddly, whatever the problem I had, it was directly related to TwLauncher and something in the 1.2 Kernel. Installing an alternate launcher seemed to fix the problem, but you give up the Facebook/Feeds of Touch-Wiz. (I've apparently become acustom to it). Flashing 1.1 or Genocide wouldn't fix it, so I ended up wiping and reinstalling the rom in recovery. (I broke the first rule of rooting and didn't Nandroid before installing 1.2!)

So is 1.1 or Genocide better? - I've run Genocide in the past on EB13 and had great battery life and she was stable at 1200. (Wasn't greedy enough to try the 1300, which was the top speed at the time).
[Epic 4G Android Development] intx:
It's not that I can't handle the brick, I know the risks I'm taking when modifying my phone.

However, when a high number of people have experienced a brick, why would you unnecessarily expose yourself to a much higher risk of bricking?

I loved Vision 1.2, the phone was running awesome, and I had no problems for almost a week.

Thank you for having common sense. I'm not telling him what to do with his phone, but when something is KNOWINGLY bricking MULTIPLE devices, it's silly to do it unless you're attempting to help solve the issue.

Glad you got it all sorted out with the issue. If you're looking into alternate launchers with Facebook feeds, you could try LauncherPro Plus.

And tbqh, I went straight from 1.0 Vision to 1.2, I never got a chance to test 1.1. However, I have ran Genocide before and I really liked it, plus it has the benefit of RNDIS working(for wired tether).

Either way, you're going to end up with a kernel that runs awesome and hasn't (afaik) bricked any phones yet, which is the most important thing here :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] cache83:
i've been wanting to ask that question too -- since coming back to VisionKernel_v1.1 my battery life isn't exciting to me anymore...

i think i'm just going to flash the Genocide Kernel again and see how that compares to the last 24 hours of vision1.1
[Epic 4G Android Development] gabe2gg:
1.2 had amazing battery life, I think i am going to risk it and go back to 1.2 I had no problems before
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
My battery has never been happier and it seems to be getting better by the day.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SwimDrewid:
It's like Scream, Android nerd edition :-D

Sent from my fully armed and operational epic battle station
[Epic 4G Android Development] quickstang:
Personally, my battery was much better on v1.1 Seemed to be draining too quickly with v1.2 I went back to v1.1 and have like 60% left and it has been unplugged for 13hrs. All of this is just running the Kernel with no uv and even clocked at 1.3Gs

Also too, one thing I noticed and I am not sure why, but when I checked the battery status on how much time I had left, with v1.2 the voltage reading was always over 4.00v Sometimes 4.18v or in that area.

I noticed that when I went back to v1.1 that it has never gone to 4.00v or above. Usually sit at 3.78v + or - .20 or around there. But not once has it climbed to 4.00v or more.

Again why, I could not tell you, but it's something I noticed for what it's worth when using each Kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Unlike you fellas, I've experienced the same great battery from using either geno,viso,twilight,bonsai kernels...for me it has always been the same up until uv screen, and ram was implemented. Vision got a jump on the crowd. And there's definitely a notice in battery life...especially with my insane undervolts usin VC....some of you people can't even go above -25...imagine your phone rocking 100,200,400 at -200.....and 800,1000 @ -100 and 600 @75.....for gaming I get wreckless and crank 1.45 up and uv @ -75....

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[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Hmm....battery must be outstanding. Think ill give this a try for toilets and ****s.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
I know 600 makes transitions and apps run a bit smoother....but man...I thought I had enabled 1.2 by mistake or something...but I'm actually topped off at 600 and running stutter free????...what's this?! :)

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[Epic 4G Android Development] ecooce:
Can I buy your phone ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] quickstang:
@Custodian

I'm at 23hrs of battery with 22% left, but I am back on v1.1

Another thing you may try to do as a test is under SetCpu there is a profiles tab and I have mine set to enable then

Screen Off 200min 200max and priority 100% and ondemand

You may try a profile and see if you get more juice at well. My battery has been going this long at 200min 1300max. So with ONLY 600MHz you may get even better life out of the battery along with the profile.

And fyi for those using SetCpu....It has been updated to 2.1.2.1 from 2.1.1a
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Good looking my friend. I haven't used setcpu since geno 1.0 w/ voltage control. So I may try the updated one. havent

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[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
I would actually. But I'm going today to try and get a replacement phone...and try to keep this phone and donate it to science lol....because it seems to be a very strong phone...

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[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
If you get SetCPU and it freezes with OnDemand then give Conservative a try.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
If 200mhz uses the same amount of power as 100mhz is there any need to even have the 100mhz step?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
My friend, 200mhz using the same power as 100mhz? There's something wrong here my friend. Unless you have 200 uv just that much...and if your phone performs well and wakes up well on 100mhz..sure use it...helps z battery life

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[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Got me a brick. I think its due to SetCPU. It was running fine (with Voltage Control + SetCPU) for a few days until I got greedy this morning and tried to make a Screen Off profile. Phone went to sleep and never woke up. RIP Chuck Norris Epic :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
User error here indeed. It was suggested to uninstall setcpu while using voltage control my friend. Gosh darnet the heck! Another epic loss...hope you can get another phone asap.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
i asked this on another thread as well, if you get rid of setcpu, how do you control what govenor you use? voltage control doesn't have that option.
[Epic 4G Android Development] quickstang:
Hmmm.... I have a screen off profile and no problems whatsoever. I do know that on v1.2 of the Kernel I was having problems even undervolting basic Mhz. I got reboots like crazy and I had NO profile set on that one.

Messed with all of that for hours and gave up and said uv and OC past 1300 is not worth it. Couldn't get anything to work.

Her is what I am running now STABLE.

v1.1 of the Kernel

SetCpu the newest as of today but was using 2.1.1a until today. I have 200Mhz set as my min and 1300Mhz as my max and Ondemand. I have a profile for 200 max and 200min, Ondemand and priority of 100

NO VOLTAGE CONTROL

This is what I have been using before v1.2 of the Kernel came out, and I just had major problems with it, as well as battery problems, so I had to start from scratch again and restore a backup.

All is fine again. And as I mentioned, my voltage seems to be lower in this Kernel vs the v1.2 It always showed 4.00v or above under my battery stats and now it is under that after going back to the v1.1

Hard to say why yours bricked, but I would suggest you forget the voltage control unless you are sure it is 110% stable. I had nothing but problems with the combined two. I just use SetCpu and have absolutely no problems whatsoever. Again my max is 1300mhz and uv doesn't work for my phone, so there is no reason for me to even have it.

I did find however that even if I had SetCpu installed along side VC and uninstalled VC but forgot to change something, I had to re-install before SetCpu would register. For the longest time it wouldn't show I was running 1300Mhz but that was because I uninstalled VC before I had gone back and save the info. It was all trial and error, but for me it looks like the configuration I am running now seems to be the stable one.

And fyi, VC doesn't even work with v1.1 so at least it says upon launching. So it was uninstalled. Not only that I didn't need it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
I worded it wrong. I know SetCPU isn't the root of this problem but something happened when I messed with its settings. This is on my phone. I know it is not representative of the the whole problem.
[Epic 4G Android Development] itisagoodname:
Noticed battery and time werent updating this morning, went to trash a shortcut and BAM fc's up the wazoo. No recovering, slowed down and couldnt do anything but restore the nandroid again. This is why i wanted journaling on, now its happening anyway.

I wish there was a way to tweak the ram voltage back up and try this kernal again to determine if thats actually the problem or not.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Actually VC does have that ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
where? i don't see any options for conservative, on demand , etc.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Ah those, though you meant something else. You can actually change those manually with terminal emulator.
[Epic 4G Android Development] burgerpimp07:
My phone got bricked running vision/sfr 1.1 without using setcpu. In fact, I installed it on a fully wiped/odin epic, and only downloaded 4-5 apps. Bricked on the 2nd day. Went to sprint and they couldn't fix it, have my new epic arriving today.
[Epic 4G Android Development] vocaltreat:
just so ya know vc is by default on conservative.
[Epic 4G Android Development] itisagoodname:
Not sure if its been covered but the download for 1.1 reads visionkernal 1.0 - ACS in Build #, is this correct or is that the wrong download? the Zip file says 1.1

also, looking in the zip files, everything is the same file size between the two, id expect at least a tiny difference

actually zimage modified date is 3 days later for 1.1 but the rest of the data looks the same
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Yes its been covered. He knows he forgot to change it.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Not true...according to voltage control, the stock voltages for 100 and 200 mhz are the same...I too have wondered what the advantage is
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Welp. Just got my new phone rooted. Kinda tempted to try 1.2 again.. It sure was good while it lasted.

edit: Gotdammit I got a refurb that isn't playing well with SFR 1.1
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Lol you didn't expect them to give you a NEW phone did you?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ksmullins88:
How do you change it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
I expected a refurb, just pissed it was one that didn't play well well SFR 1.1 It's up and running now though.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Think its all good to run a restore via MyBackup Pro on this new phone?

edit: Eh, I'm just gonna go ahead and do it
[Epic 4G Android Development] anavias:
Voltage /= power used.

Power used (watts) = Amps * Voltage.

Not sure exactly how Mhz plays into this exactly, but I've always assumed that 200 mhz would use twice as much amps (current) as 100 mhz just because it is going through twice as many cycles.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yeah, should be :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
Is this bricking with latest Syndicate and latest VisionKernwl real?

I been,running mine for 5 days now with no problems,i did remove voodoo sound app though.

Should I go back to Twilight?

Wierd thing is my phone says kernel versiin is Twilight 1.1.1RC but my camcorder works now.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
A couple different ways. The easiest is to install setcpu or pimp my cpu and change the scaling governor within the app.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
Wtf,just flashed back to TwilightZone from Vision 1.0.2 and now my camcorder still works!

My camcorder wasnt workin before with TwilightZone.

When flashing kernels I dint get blue letters that are normaly present when flashing kernels,as matter of fact I dont get blue letters any more when flashing any kernel.I

wonder if these kernels are flashing period?It does say in cwm that zip flashed successfully but still no blue letters.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
The blue letter flashes aren't needed on these kernel flashes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
I think this is the root of some of the problems - not everyone is seeing improved battery life from the UV, which means their processors are drawing the same (if not more) watts - in essence, the voltage is lower, but the amperage increases to compensate. Higher voltage would be slightly less harmful than higher amperage, because more electrons flowing through the same space in the same amount of time results in more friction at an atomic level, resulting in more heat. The phone's fail safe shut down mechanism was designed around the stock specs, and may not behave correctly under modified conditions, so the UV could potentially cause components to burn out just enough to brick the phone
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
Man,my phone just froze with wierd screen artifacts,i never seen this type of freeze before.

I think its time to inject TwilightKernel into Sundicate rom and Odin before its to late because I dont think these kernels are flashing right,even without blue letters they still flash too quick-they not supposed to flash that quick.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yes they are..... and twilight is already in SFB.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
Lol,i know,i forgot that i replaced Twilight with Vision using 7zip.

I have question.

When i replace kernels with 7zip in kernel_update folder there is a file called redbend_ua,is that file needed?Because i want to inject latest Twilight kernel but there is only two files inside latest TwilightZone kernel zip bmlwrite and zImage,there is no redbend_ua.

My question is:Should i delete redbend_ua when replacing bmlwrite and zImage using 7zip in kernel_update folder or should i keep redbend_ua?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ksmullins88:
Well I know that. I meant without using setcpu.

Also I think the phone will freeze when you use voltage control and set CPU scaling to on demand.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
If you knew that then why didn't u say. I can't read your mind.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
As long as you got either redbend_ua or bmlwrite your straight one of those more than one way to skin a cat things ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
The reason why you don't see the flashing blue letters anymore is because we aren't using Samsung's ****ty redbend_ua anymore, bmlwrite is the better option. Just because it flashes quick doesn't mean it's not going to work; it'll work, just faster :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
Ok,right now i have bmlwrite,redbend_ua and zImage in Syndicate rom zip.

And in TwilightZone kernel there is bmlwrite and zImage.

If i just replace bmlwrite and zImage,and leave redbend_ua untouched wouldn't it have info from old kernel in that file?So i take it that it need to be deleted?
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Bmlwrite, flash_image and redbend_ua all do the same thing: get the kernel zImage to the correct block, that is it. They contain no information about the kernel other than the name.
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
-sigh-....while that may be true, all I was trying to say before is that 100 mhz and 200 mhz have the same voltage rating, thus wondering what advantage 100 has over 200

And as far as the theory...any fail safe would be designed around temperature, not voltages. Any modified setting wouldn't (shouldn't) affect this. And considering amperage...I'm probably completely wrong, but in a processor wouldn't amperage be interpreted as the frequency? Thinking about it logically makes sense to me...if amp is current, and higher amp means more current in a given space, this sounds like another way of describing frequency (amount of peaks in a given space). And the speed of a processor should be nothing more than the amount of electrons able to pass through it in an amount of space and time since everything we see as data is nothing more than electrons that happen to have an interpretation (context).

Basically, I don't think the processor would compensate amps because that would mean it would be compenating mhz. Which we know isn't true because the whole theory behind the undervolting is using less volts to create the same frequency.

Just what I think. Again, I'm probably completely wrong lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Undervolting is as you say. Take your high end frequency and trim its cpu usage down until its stable enough to maintain its performance while consuming less. But to maintain this performance. There must be cooling to keep the hardware from heating to unstable levels, which results to damaged equipment. Our epic phones don't come with external cooling systems. However, cooling mechanisms could be intergrated to prevent overheating, by simply setting a threshold for a certain temp, say >60% etc... and setting the max freq/volt/uv or what have you at a lower volume so that the cpu cools down. SetCpu has this mechanism, but its at the users desposal....creating profiles etc....I'm pretty sure these awsome devs could intergrate such a thing in their roms/kernels.....

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[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Well I was under the impression that our phones will shut themselves off long before they hit a critical temperature.

Be that as it may or not be, I was simply commenting on the other user's posts that undervolting may in fact draw more power and cause more heat
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Heh word.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Don't give up on us Thomas. I went over to the darkside and am running the Genocide kernel and its just not the same. The CPU is pretty butter but the GPU is laggier than I have ever had the pain to experience.
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Actually, reading that response begs a question...what rom are you running?
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
SFR 1.1 Is there a known compatibility issue?
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
I wouldn't say it's known, but from my own experience the two don't play well with each other. Trust me, it has nothing to do with genocide's performance. You should try geno on synergy and you'll see what I mean.

In fact I switched to sfr this morning so that I could run the matted blues ec05 theme, and the difference is palpable. Its also palpable between sfr with geno and sfr with default kernel. Plus, when the newest geno dropped I orginally had it on sfr and had the same experiences. Sluggish UI at times and really bad benchmark scores across the board (and benchmark scores I always take with a grain of salt, but they were so bad that there had to be a problem; I mean come on, 40 sec rlbenchmark a 1.2ghz? There's something wrong there).

Orginally I thought I may have had some rogue apps killing my system, but since switching back this morning I've come to the conclusion that sfr and geno just don't like each other. Because as of last night when I had synergy with geno my UI was buttery smooth and my benchmarks were killer ;) nothing to do with sfr, its a great rom. They're just not a good match together.

Flash synergy and geno 1.0 when you have the time and you'll see what I mean.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
This may hold some truth on your device my friend. Each phone reacts differently on each kernel. I on the other hand have used pretty much every available kernel, tested fully. With my focus being balanced(battery+performance), and the only difference really was battery life because of each kernels uv ability. So far vision 1.2 has been a blessing in a sense when it comes to such a task. For me.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Just cause someone flashes a different kernel if there were some bricks don't make them a sissy. Some people don't have the money to get a another phone if something happens to theirs.

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