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[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
loop hole.. sounds interesting...

but i am sure sprint would have thought of that...

and they will say.. you have to have the plan active at the qualifing rate for a yr to count!

but.. you can try it.. and let us know...
[EVO 4G General] mylasthope:
It only has to be active for 90 days, according to Sprint's website.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
:D

Only 3 months, that's all.
[EVO 4G General] shiftwig113:
IT will Work!

Here's the low down...

I called on the 21st asking if my upgrade will change once april comes by...the stupid lady said no....after much research i found out that my upgrade will be indeed gone....

I called again on the 23rd...and talk to another lady and she said that i will lose upgrade...I demanded that i was promised an upgrade therefore i should get it...then i got transferred to a lead specialist...She wasn't very nice i was arguing on the phone that its unethical for youn guys to promise me something and turn arround and say sorry you can't have this...

She said she would issue a corrective action to her employee that told me i can keep my upgrade...I told her thats only benifiting Sprint becuase a corrective doesn't help me get my upgrade...

I got transfered to account services...explained the whole thing again. and then i got transferred to this supervisor guy...

He asked where i worked, i said target...he said ok. if we put you on the 89.99 plan and take twenty % off you'll only be paying 3 dollars more than you would be now, and come july 1st (the day i was supposed to get my upgrade) I can get my EVO 3D and than downgrade to the 69.99 plan and still keep my 20% off...So yes it will work

Cliff notes: yes you can switch to 89.99 plan and wait 3 months then you can get your phone and go back to 69.99.

BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THIS BEFORE APRIL 1st. Act fast...there's less than 3 days left for this deal...
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
Yeah this suck I got my wife and epic today to waste the upgrade and depends on EVO getting official gingerbread or no I will buy gull price the EVO 3D or get the ipad 2
[EVO 4G General] Semantics:
This bugs me to no end. I've had an upgrade on my main line since 11/10, and we've been saving it for this summer and the new EVO when its released. We're going to lose that upgrade, and I'm not going to use it for the sake of using it, and have Sprint lock me in on 2 more years. I'm very disappointed in Sprint, I know they need to make money, but this really does suck. The upside is, without getting a new phone, we'll be out of our 3 line family contract fairly soon, and we then have the option to explore other carriers, or whatever. I enjoy Sprint, but the S|P upgrade gank, really bothers me.
[EVO 4G General] jesziicuh:
wait til april first yhen ask them you defin will not get an upgrade new policy the thing is someone explained is tht all the info will stay the same in the computers til the end of march.
[EVO 4G General] awesomeindeed:
The loophole will work, I just changed my plan to the $89.99 one a few days ago via a chat online with a Sprint rep. She even back-dated my plan change so I'd still be eligible for my upgrade on 5/1.
[EVO 4G General] kd0axs:
Your upgrade should be safe. From what I understand, if you currently have an upgrade available to use, you will not lose it.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G with Tapatalk
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
that will work but the problem is you are going to spend at least an extra $25 a month if you change your plan. and you end up getting $150 subsidy instead of $75, so no change. you might actually lose money depending on how much you had to raise the plan.
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
lol, it's not a loophole. if you can get them to back date if, great, otherwise there is no point in doing that.
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
you aren't going to lose the upgrade, you'll just have to pay $75 more. big deal.
[EVO 4G General] Sean-El:
This is all bull****, i just called 800-639-6111 and spoke to an associate and she said unless you use it by April 1st or upgrade your plan you will lose your upgrade.
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
YUP that's why they told me I got the epic so I guess I'm set lol Idk if to get the 3d or the nexus s I was decided for the 3d but I have no idea now
[EVO 4G General] EndlessDissent:
Ok. I got my Evo at the end of September. Would I have to upgrade my account before April 1st for the "loophole" to work, or can I upgrade my account in June, 3 months before my anniversary, and still get it? I get a 20+% discount through my job, so the extra money for 3 months would probably be worth it to save $75, but if I have to upgrade my account now for it work, I guess I'll just have to wait out my contract or something.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
My upgrade is the same time as yours and after researching I have concluded that I will be waving bye-bye to my upgrade.

To keep it, I would have to upgrade my plan and pay an extra $20+ a month from now until I upgrade in September. So that would be $120 plus. So it would be cheaper to just pay full price for the phone.
[EVO 4G General] androidrookie84:
I don't understand why we can't just be grandfathered in for one last yearly upgrade,if you started a contract before April 1.
[EVO 4G General] vWvSTATICvWv:
A friend of mine at work is telling me this would be the best time to get out of my contract because Sprint is changing policies and that's not what was agreed upon when I started my contract. But I'm pretty sure Sprint is aware of what they're doing and have covered all legal bases. It's probably in fine print somewhere. :mad:
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
Yeah they know about that already back in January 2008 they changed too and they didn't think it thru so a lot of people got out of contract for free I was one of them lol

http://cashmoneylife.com/cancel-your-cell-phone-contract-without-paying-fees/
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
It's a perk not part of your contract. It's something that Sprint is nice enough to still have for their customers, the 1 and only company to still do it.
[EVO 4G General] Genjinaro:
Dammit Sprint, this is such a ****ing headache. Regardless of what happens I will kick & scream on July 7th for it to be reset if want be.

Captured every screen & text showing the date, with an attitude on simmer.
[EVO 4G General] searcher61:
Well, I just got off the phone with Sprint. A few months ago I checked my account to make sure everything was all right for my next upgrade. They told me my next upgrade would not be until July 2011. I asked why, they said I had just gotten the EVO in June 2010. I told them I purchased the EVO outright and did not use my upgrade. They look into it and said they would fix it. Now, I just checked again....and was told the same thing again. They sent me a survey after the last time asking me if the rep. took care of my problem. I gave them a glowing review because I thought they had. The rep today said they were going to set my upgrade to be available as of March 1 2011. They said there was not any reason to go back any further. They asked me if I received a survey would I answer that my problem had been resloved. I said I was going to wait a few days and call back to confirm. She said she would call me back when done....Boy, this was a pain...but since I am still Gold Premier...I need to make sure it was fixed. I never thought it would be a problem, I guess not many people purchase phone outright.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
anybody who is silver and is currently sitting on an premier 1 year upgrade will loose it in a few days.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Not everybody... the people losing it are the people that don't really have it.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
No, we're definitely losing it. If I check my upgrade eligibility right now it says I'm due in Sept 2011. If I check on April its going to say Sept 2012. I'm definitely going to lose my Sept 2011 upgrade.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
ok that made no sense. :confused:

anyways...for example me, i have a 1 year premier upgrade from last november. im loosing it in a few days. sucks as i won't use it on anything but the nexus and looks like that ain't happening. ill be buying it full price i guess. i still think this is a **** move by sprint.
[EVO 4G General] starplaya93:
How can they just take away your upgrade? Isn't that part of your contact?
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
nope, the premier 1 year upgrades are a bonus, it's not in the contract. if your not gold status come april 1st you loose that upgrade.
[EVO 4G General] Sean-El:
Update to my previous post. I called Sprint and asked all the questions and she told me i would lose it and blah blah blah. So i told her that what's going on is rediculous and it's frustrating to do this when i have been with them for 11 years. She says sir our records show that you've been with us since 2003, so that'd be 8. I said well i was with Nextel for 3 years prior before you guys bought them, my nuber is so and so, do your records show that? She said no but i can submit you for Gold Status and see if the premier member department can approve it before April 1st that way you can still have your upgrade. I said that'd be great seeing as how I have an upgrade from November sitting on my account and i'd hate to lose it because you guys are changing all this. Doesn't really matter since i bought the Moment in November of 2009 and got it replaced by Best Buy with an EVO in July of last year. She called me back about an hour ago and said i was approved and i am now a Gold Member and will be getting my upgrade. I saved the VM and the confirmaton # just in case. Now question is, can i Upgrade in June?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Correct, but you don't really have it as it's not Sept 2011, we're still in March ;)
[EVO 4G General] EndlessDissent:
Man, this sucks. I was so stoked when the Sprint rep told me I would get a yearly upgrade when I bought my Evo. I was so exited after having to wait two years with Cingular/AT&T. I was like, "ZOMG!!! Sprint is so awesome!!!". Then, just a couple months later (obviously way too late to get out of my contract), they pull this.

I'm not impressed with Sprint anymore, to say the least. The only remaining redeeming quality they have going for them, is that they're not AT&T. And the truly unlimited data is nice, too, but I don't use as much as I originally thought I would.

Basically, the only benefit to Sprint service for me right now is that I have an Evo in my hands. Unfortunately, it's looking like I'll still be holding on to it long after all the devs move on to the Evo 3D.
[EVO 4G General] jstalford:
Just upgraded my plan and confirmed my upgrade elligibility. Also applied the discount I get from work that I kept forgetting about. Payment shouldn't change too much, although I will be changing back once I upgrade since I usually don't use more than 100 min a month.
[EVO 4G General] starplaya93:
Why don't you just use your upgrade to by a shift and resell it full price then pocket the money?

This is a low hit on sprints part...

If this is there tactical move getting ready for the tmobile/att merge, it's a really bad one... You should be doing everything in your power to gain your customers loyalty at this point, not taking away there reasons for choosing you....

Oh well...
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
What are you talking about? LOL. This was announced months ago before the AT&T/T-Mobile merger was even known about. Sprint has had the premier rewards program for years now too people are just mad that they switched carriers for the Evo and now is gone - but only those people are the ones that are mad, everyone else that has been enjoying it for the past few years understands that things change.
[EVO 4G General] SwaggaSnatcha:
Just got off the phone with Sprint they said I would lose my July upgrade come April 1,so I upgraded so now I'm golden lol ( hope this works)
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
no it's bad timing to take upgrades away when you are going to have two great phones coming out shortly. if anything this will hurt sales and contract extensions. people will either just not buy them all together or buy them full retail / 2nd hand and not renew anything. either way it will hurt.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
what did you get?
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
do a google search before shoving your foot in to your mouth
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
thought about it, same as buying that wp7 device. i still may in the next few days, not sure yet? i also could sell my mint evo for close to $300 on craigslist.
[EVO 4G General] SwaggaSnatcha:
Sorry I mean I upgraded my plan so I am a gold member and should stay so come April 1 and still be eligible for my up grade in July

Ki
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
what did you upgrade your plan too? i thought you had to be with sprint for 10 years to get gold status?
[EVO 4G General] SwaggaSnatcha:
Nope silver/gold status comes from the amount you pay a month I had to upgrade to the ever y thing unlimited plan witch is about 25 more a month than the one I was previously on but that plan makes me a gold member for me it will be the cheapest way to upgrade when the 3d evo comes out in a month or so
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
ummm then why the hell am i silver and i have had the unlimited plan?
[EVO 4G General] SwaggaSnatcha:
There is more than one unlimited plan the 69.99 plan is silver the 89.99 plan and up is gold
[EVO 4G General] jstalford:
Individual plans $89.99 and up qualify for gold. Have to change your plan before Friday though. You just need to average over 89.99 for 90 days and then you are good for the upgrade.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
I thought this topic had died down (there are other threads on this already!!!)

Anyways, I believe it was stated by one of the sprint reps that once 4/1 passes, if your upgrade date gets pushed back, you can call in and attempt to get it reset back to the original upgrade date (12 months since your last upgrade).

Of course, this will probably require some arm twisting, remaining calm, patient, and being polite but firm. I have a few ideas on how this might proceed, but my upgrade isn't until the end of the year, so we'll see what experiences those with sooner upgrades report.
[EVO 4G General] jedijackie:
Here's what I did... may help someone...

I knew my upgrade was going away come this Friday. So, I used my upgrade to get my new Evo (upgraded from old beloved Hero). Got it at Best Buy. Forked over $149 (had a $50 coupon) and paid them the extra $40 for their BuyBack program & BlackTie. Original retail cost of the Evo is listed at $599.

Then, I upgraded my plan to Shared to include my mom (porting her away from TMobile... so, that's an extra $150 service credit promotional from Sprint right there). BestBuy is currently running a new activation promotion and gave her a free LG Optimus S, retailing at $399. I spent an extra $40 for their BuyBack program on this phone also. Then, I gave my mom my old Hero and had Sprint do a free handset swap. So, now I've got this free LG Optimus sitting around in a box, never gonna be used. And I'm canceling the mandatory BlackTie $10/month on the 31st day from purchase.

Still with me here? So... when the new Evo 3D comes out, all I gotta do is take my current Evo back into Best Buy within the next 6months and they give me a $299 gift card for my Evo on BuyBack, and $199 for the never been opened Optimus S.

I failed ethics in high school. And college. :D
[EVO 4G General] Semantics:
Big deal? Apparently you don't understand the new structure. the 22 month upgrade is new contract pricing, you get the 150 off, AND the rebate cost, so the phone will cost between 199-249. The 75 dollars off does not include the rebate, so I get 75 dollars off a 600 dollar phone, thus 525 is what I would be responsible for. So yeah, 200 dollars or 500 dollars....no big deal, right?
[EVO 4G General] EndlessDissent:
If you use the $75 upgrade, can you renew the contract and get the rebate?

I honestly don't really know how a lot of this works with cell phone plans and such. My Evo is the first cell phone for which I've been completely, solely responsible, and I honestly didn't do much more research than calculating the monthly fees I'd pay and reading reviews of carriers' service. I didn't realize at the time that something this complicated could pop up.

I'm still thinking Sprint was the right choice, especially considering the pending AT&T/T-Mobile deal. I'm just trying to not fall too far behind. I can't imagine that dev support for the Evo will be anywhere as strong as it currently is after the Evo 3D comes out, and the dev support was one of the main factors in choosing the Evo over the Epic.

*sigh* I guess I should start selling mad weed and try to get the Evo 3D off contract. It might be my only chance.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
well then sprint screwed up because i have the 129.99 unlimited plan with two lines of service and they put me silver. :mad:

ill call them today.
[EVO 4G General] EndlessDissent:
There's a different, much higher minimum for multiple lines. I want to say $169, but that sounds a little high to me. Someone else probably knows for sure.
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
you do realize you would of made more not paying for the buy back program and selling the phones yourself, right? there is a reason they do this buy back program and it's not because they are nice.
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
where are you getting that info from? I've heard nothing that says this is anything more then a $75 or a $150 subsidy.
[EVO 4G General] jstalford:
Unless, they have changed things, this is how it has always been. Before premiere, the one year upgrade was a joke.

You are correct, and the amount is $169.99, so actually a little higher ;).
[EVO 4G General] QuietBillG:
This is not a good idea for Sprint.

If they put me on a 22 month cycle, then I will just wait 2 more months and switch company's!!!

:cool:
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
I would upgrade to 169 cause I got 4 lines but I don't think is worth it plus I already got my line upgrade,
[EVO 4G General] jedijackie:
Actually no, I've seen Evos go for less than $200 on Ebay and the LG Optimus is crap at $40 bucks on Ebay. $299 and $199 both sound pretty good to me, don't know about you. I don't have the time to jack around with Ebay.
[EVO 4G General] ausch30:
I was emptying out my deleted mail folder and came across this letter I got from Sprint CS

Thank you for contacting Sprint regarding the new premier program.

As per record, your account will complete 10 years on September this year. As of now, effective April 01, 2011, the account will be regarded as S/P Silver and will receive all the premier benefits as designed.

However, the account will become S/P Gold after the month of September and then, it will be eligible for all premier benefits including annual upgrade. I request you to wait till then for redeeming your upgrade offer.

We value your business and appreciate the opportunity to answer your questions. Please reply to this email or visit sprint.com if we can be of assistance.

Sincerely,

Carolina B.

Sprint

Original Question: Enter what you are looking for

Question: I saw that as of April 1 the premier program is changing. I

have been a Sprint customer for a long time, I was just trying to figure

out if I've been with your company the required 10years to keep my 12

month upgrades. Thank you.

Pretty much goes along with what everyone except the OP said, gonna have to call CS in a couple days and try and get that changed.
[EVO 4G General] Clay333:
I read somewhere on the upgrade section of Sprints website that the $75 upgrade is just $75 off the original price with no rebates at all. But the $150 upgrade is $150 off of the price after the instant debate or the new contract price, which ever is cheaper. (With smartphones 95% of the time the new contract price will be cheapest) hope this helps.
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
No they didn't screw up, you don't have a high enough family plan to get Gold. For individual lines it's 89.99 and up. For Family I believe it's 169.99 and up.
[EVO 4G General] lftrpllr507:
So, this upgrade deal. Say I were to get $150 off, would that be off the full price of the phone (~$500) or the new 2 year contract price (~$199) . I have a two year contract, and my first half upgrade is in october 2011, and my second is August 2012. I'm just curious as to what base price they take the discount off of. I'm qute the noob. Sorry!
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
the hell with that, im not paying that much. anyways i just checked this morning and my upgrade is gone. my next one is on september 1st 2011 now. ill just pay full price for the nexus s i guess. :mad:
[EVO 4G General] SwaggaSnatcha:
Just checked and I'm still good for July 1 2011 glad I changed my plan to the gold one 3d evo here I come
[EVO 4G General] jcjr81:
Well I was eligible for an upgrade now but I just checked and now I have to wait until December.
[EVO 4G General] tgruendler:
I was eligable on 1/1/2011 for an upgrade on my phone and it is still showing the upgrade. Will check later on today just incase it is taking a while for the system to update.
[EVO 4G General] st0921:
With all the confusion and different interpretations of the premier change, I called sprint 2 days ago and asked for my upgrade reset. The rep said that he could try to reset the date as 4/1/11 through reset request but not guaranteed. I got my evo on launch day, so the eligible date was 6/1/11 until yesterday. I just checked my upgrade status, surprisingly I'm eligible for upgrade as of today. Interesting thing is that I wasn't even eligible for upgrade under the old premier program as today would be my 10-month since last upgrade... I guess I got lucky. Btw I became silver as of today.
[EVO 4G General] jjcd51590:
mine still says 6/1/11 and I'm not on the gold plan
[EVO 4G General] Jjday7:
I thought I would share my story with this whole upgrade issue.

I called sprint a couple days ago to complain about not being able to upgrade in august due to the change. I went straight to retentions and argued with the rep for about 30 minutes. She came up with every excuse in the book on why sprint made this change. She even had the nerve to tell me that she has not gotten any calls to this day stating any complaints. I knew I was dealing witha liar at that point. It got better though. She then told me that customers complaining about people getting premier just by paying their bill of 69.99. She said customers didn't think it was fair. They wanted to pay more to get the yearly upgrade. This is when I asked for this clowns supervisor. I am not stupid and I won't allow anyone to talk to me like I'm stupid.

I then get transferred to the manager and stated all that I want is to get my last yearly upgrade in august and after that I could care less about yearly upgrades. He told me that he gets calls constantly by people complaining about the upgrades being altered. This was completely different from what the other rep said. He also told me what she said about customers wanting the change was not the reason for the change. He said as of right now sprint will not be honoring the upgrades. I was told to call back in august and to complain at that time. He said there was no way to make my upgrade good. The sad part is he kept me on the phone forever because I told him I would not say my issue was resolved on the survey. He was so concerned about this and pleaded with me to just choose I don't know. It's crazy out of a hour phone call from a complaining customer, his only concern was his rating of the call. Unbelievable!!
[EVO 4G General] bigaj:
Just thought i'd share my experiences as of today about this whole upgrade crap.I was elgible for an upgrade in September of 2010.So i logged into my account today and my upgrade was changed to 7-1-2011 and my contract is up in September of this year. Im still upset because i feel that customers who were available for an upgrade in 2010 should be honored.The date date they changed it to is weird because the evo 3d will probably come out in June.I no you guys will probably say well what are you complaining for its just an extra month.I dont want to wait an extra month.