yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mean Bro Greene:
Been running this kernel since I grabbed it from irc. Thank you, adrynalyne. This is fantastic. And thank you, Mrbobrowitz.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] spjoneser:
Nope. . Flash away! But don't forget your backup!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JustinD2473:
i thought clockwork was having issues flashing kernels ?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Bxsteez:
There is no update to my knowledge. I could be wrong.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] psufan5:
Is there any fix to CWM breaking the ability to charge the phone while its off?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DS36:
clockwork didnt really have an issue

the problem was putting together the correct zipable package
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DS36:
i wish but give it time im sure kush will update and fix that while the TB is still pretty new
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ckochinsky125:
so if I flash this what benefits does it have? Sorry for the noob question I never flashed a kernal except for when I had a fascinate.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DS36:
the benefits are listed in the first post :)

and flashing good kernels are a must ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xCHPx:
Not really, all it says is what is included and I don't know what he is talking about in what is included except undervolt. :confused:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Odinist:
Awesome! Just got done flashing, went smooth as silk.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] davezaff:
Thanks fellows.....very nice.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] psufan5:
NO way to flash this without CWM is there lol... I dont wanna put it on because i like charging my phone when its off.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dacre:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're really opposed to CWM, couldn't you just unzip the package, flash the kernel with fastboot and push the file in system/lib using adb?

Anyway, Smartass governor? Wow, having had a Droid X before I feel like I've really been out of the loop. Read up on it, I like it. It's good to have a kernel that I feel I can relate to. :P
[Thunderbolt Android Development] davezaff:
Still charges in cwm when off just displays cwm recovery screen if fastboot is not enabled.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Sweeny Russ:
Virus is still a sense rom, it will work fine.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrmarshall428:
Thanks. For quick response. Appreciate it!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dsb9938:
I hate to post when my phone has problems, unless I know exactly what caused them.

I noticed that up until 1.9 SetCPU did not show me time in state numbers. I generally use this to see how well the gov is working. I didn't notice if it happened before I installed 1.6, so I didn't say anything, but it is back working now with 1.9.

Just an FYI.

D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] uthinkisay:
just installed 1.9 didn't install any of the earlier version so we shall see how this goes.

1861 in quadrant which is fine by me as long as battery life improves. I was getting around 1880 b4 I flashed this kernel so hopefully this under-volt saves me some battery life.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] engagedtosmile:
Every ROM right now is running Sense.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlevy73:
People running version 1.9, what is your quadrant score. Seeing as it know has the ext4 hack scores should have received a nice bounce.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Smartass really is an amazing governor. However, it doesn't play well with setcpu. I think I am close to getting it better; for example quadrants are in the 2K range with it, where they should be. Linpack on the other hand, well it doesn't like smartass.

Tweaked correctly, smartass imo wil trump all the other governors and remove the need for setcpu profiles (which conflict with it). For example, for 1.9, I tweaked it to ramp up sooner, and when idle, to only run at 245mhz (screen off/sleep).

I welcome folks to try it. You can set it with setcpu for now, however, check set on boot, and move the slider so the max speed is correct. Moving from one governor to smartass caps it at 800 some odd mhz when using setcpu.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] azwildfire:
Going from ver 1.6 to 1.9 I had some touch screen lag. I wiped Davlik cache and it went away (first reboot takes a LONG time though)

Quadrant scores are consistant at 1850-1900 no matter how many times I run it. The OC kernel was breaking 2500 for me by comparison.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
I get 2-2.1k fairly regularly. Sometimes you need to consider what you are running on your device. This kernel will be faster than stock.

As for the validity of Quadrant...from this device on the 1.6ghz kernel and a no photochopping. Don't rely on quadrant to be your guide.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jrocker23:
anyone have a working link. cant get to it with the op link or rom manager

NM got it... thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dxun:
Are you saying that 1.9 is tweaked so that we really don't have to use setcpu? I'm a little confused. To be honest I rather not use any setcpu profiles.

Sent from a Bolt of Lightning
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dsb9938:
1.9 defaults to ondemand. If you want to use smartass you can set it in SetCPU, but make sure you check the set on boot button, and push the max speed all the way up. And turn off profiles.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tmushy:
So im confused now. What is the recommended setup.

Im using 1.9. Should I use setcpu or not?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pnd4pnd:
Can some one tell me what the recommended setcpu setup should be for the most optimal battery life? i don't care about a high quadrant score... ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nmyeti:
I personally have never had good luck with setcpu. Once smartass gets set as the default i'll uninstall it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ktrinidad:
Running 1.9.

- Installed SetCPU

- Used SmartAss

- Max is set to 1024 (is this correct?)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] t_reax:
1.9

i'm getting ready to install 1.9, i just did a nandroid backup about an hour ago, do i need to wipe data and cache?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scottyd21:
Awesome work guys, thanks

I have one questions. Can I use this kernel for any ROM? I just installed this ROM and was wondering if I can install this kernel on it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1000448

Thanks again

scott
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rulevoid:
Yo Adrynalyne, good to see you in the Thunderbolt scene. I worked with you a bit in the Incredible scene.

Question for you. When do you think you will push the kernel with increased clock speed abilities? Also have you done any testing yet to tell if we would need to overvolt at 1.5 or 1.6 Ghz?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rulevoid:
No, you could always clear cache and dalvik cache, but I would assume his install script includes this already.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] youneek:
I'm on 1.9 and when I watch smartass I can see it jump all over the place without doing anything... Conservative will just sit there. The phone is more responsive with smartass but I don't think it's working exactly right.

Smartass also gets around 30 on linpack where conservative is around 40.

It is butter smooth though and I think the battery life is better.

Sent from my Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shelooga:
Can't keep up w these... Does this support wireless tether? Yea I know we have mobile hotspot, but I prefer wt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] SolZer:
You can't disable since it is already.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CBMC:
Anyone having trouble with the download links? (both in rom manager and 1st post)

edit: of course, as soon as I post this I get our to work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
For me interactive seems to save the most battery. When I put it on smart ass it drains
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Strife21:
Sorry for double post
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dirtyfingers:
I am having problems getting a gps lock, it just keeps searching. I have rebooted several times and still nothing. I am not sure what could be causing this but it did work yesterday with the stock kernel. Also I'm on the perfect storm. Any suggestions?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] msburr87:
I lost my data connection on 1.9
[Thunderbolt Android Development] NetworkPIMP:
Install GPS Status from the market, then:

Menu -> Tools -> Manage AGPS -> Reset

Menu -> Tools -> Manage AGPS -> Download

I noticed this seemed to clear things up for me... YMMV.

I had your problem - this made it stop - I now fix up in under 15 secs off cold boot, and under 5s every time after that.

I'm on BAMF 1.2

-J
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shelooga:
ondemand seems to lock it at 1024. my phone wont come down from that (and gets hot) unless i switch the powersave. didnt notice that problem on 1.7, 1.8
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mrbobrowitz:
Everyone,

The kernel does not affect gps, it is most likely your rom that is causing the issue.

Also, if you lose data on first reboot thats OK :), Just reboot your phone and it will come back, no reason as to why this happens to be honest.

Smartass is still being worked on yes, hence the change to onDemand as the dafault governor.

We are trying to keep everything updated as best we can, hang with us :)

-MrBobrowitz
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Bimmer323:
Definately see an improvement with 1.9.

System Panel is reading my CPU frequency where in 1.8 is was just blank.

Smartass is scaling in the low 245/360 range the majority of the time where as with 1.8 it was all over the place at idle (on my phone).

Has anyone used CPUBoost from Conap rather than SetCPU, it was being baked in on Eris roms and it's a very clean apk?

Thanks, great work!!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bernjc3:
Flashed 1.8 lastnight and it ran fine asside from the smartass quirks. It looked like my battery life had actually decreased after flashing 1.8. At lunch out of boredom I checked clockwork for a 1.9 and flashed it while I was eating :)

1.9 is fantastic, thanks for the great work and quick development!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dirtyfingers:
Ok thanks I want sure if it was the ROM or the kernel
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dirtyfingers:
That did work for me! Now everything is perfect and phone is running great with new kernel.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jaskru:
scale it up to a 1.6GHZ smartass kernel and I would be in heaven... :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] corenojoe:
1.9 is running really smooth and quick
[Thunderbolt Android Development] racedog:
Using the PS ROM and decided to try the 1.9 kernel, mainly to see if it improved battery life. Just installed and everything came back working as before and very smoothly. So far everything is good. Hoping to see some battery life improvement now.

R
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tmushy:
4 AND A HALF HOURS

19% battery life done
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scottricketts:
Installed the kernel, bought SetCPU, played with smartass and ondemand scheduler, decided to stick with ondemand, and I keep wifi turned off except when I'm home. I'll be unplugging from my desk shortly, anxious to see how the battery does for me tonight. Thanks again to the great community here at XDA!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jdphilly:
Just wondering if anyone else battery percentage was not moving at all....after doing a reboot then it shows my proper battery percentage
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bhazard451:
Happens to me too.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nmyeti:
FYI i flashed 1.9 this morning. I've been off the charger since about 7am with a very active exchange account syncing in the background (3-400 emails a day) as well as some words with friends, angry birds, and fruit ninja. It's just before 3 and I'm sitting at 60% battery level. If this rate keeps up, my exchange will switch from "push" to every 4 hours @ 5pm and i'll likely have the ability to make it to tomorrow morning when i get back to work before i have to charge.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pinhead875:
3G, 4G or wifi?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nmyeti:
3G. I'm in a non 4G area, haven't turned it off, and our corp wifi is locked down so that our phones won't work on it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pistolpete_21:
Can anyone verify the proper kernel version after flashing the 1.9 update.

I'm showing

2.6.32.21_ze_battery_is_life

chaos@chaos-AY747AA-ABA-p6310y #7

Tue Mar 29 15:01:16 MST 2011

but it flashed really fast and I'm wondering if it even worked.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] spjoneser:
That is not 1.9, it's date would be march 30th
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pinhead875:
Well it's great that you have amazing battery life. If/when you get 4G, that's when things (battery life) go downhill. :) I can last all day on 3G, but with 4G (which I keep on, I didn't buy a 4G phone to not use 4G), I can almost watch the battery level drop.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pinhead875:
1.9 Kernal version (on my phone):

2.6.32.21_ze_battery_is_life-g81c2fc5-dirty

by_adrynalyne #1

Wed Mar 30 04:10:19 MST 2011
[Thunderbolt Android Development] droidboy850:
So many updates I think I might just wait until there is a really solid one out next week. I want a great overclock and a very stable kernel with some awesome undervoltage. We'll see whats out next week.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pistolpete_21:
Thank you. I got it - I think I accidentally flashed one with _6 at the end instead of the new _9. It says -dirty by_adrynalyne #1 now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nmyeti:
I may be wrong, but as i understood it, switching back and forth from 3G to 4G was a battery drain, and having 4G enabled, but not active is also a battery drain. Either way, I really won't know till they finally turn 4G on in Albuquerque, but i thought that if you stay on 4G only it's actually not too bad.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
I'm running Virus, can I still use your sense kernels?? I kid, I kid.. :D

Flashed 1.9 on Virus and phone feels more responsive and speedy. Set governors on smartass for normal use and screen off. Really hoping this improves my battery life, it has not been good no matter what I do or what ROM I flash. I knew once kernels were released battery would get better so I rolled with the punches. I never dreamed they'd be out and functional this quickly. Thanks for doin' work Adry'!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nic2112:
I looked in every section of Rom Manager and I can't find the overclocked kernel. Was it removed or do I need more Lasik?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pinhead875:
I have great 4G coverage where I am in Denver, kills my battery. When I test 3G (I'm testing today again, been unplugged on 3G for almost 8 hours, still at 62%), I get much, MUCH better battery life. So for me, I can only see that my battery drain is because of 4G, not a certain rom or kernal. But like I said, I bought a 4G phone so I can have the amazing 4G speeds that I get. When I open an app or need data (most of the day), I have it right away. What helps me is that I use my car dock in the morning, and going home from work, so that helps charge. I also have a desk job, and an extra wall charger here at work. End ramble.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pinhead875:
It was removed, I'm sure another will be up soon.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bmerrill63:
I think it was removed, cause it is gone. Glad I got it while I could.

Sent by the Tbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dbu:
Battery life is MUCH improved on 1.9...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ericcwhitaker:
Where are people finding the overclock kernel in RomManager. Its not showing up for me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ericcwhitaker:
NM, seemed it was answered as I typed it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lortay78:
I cannot testify to 4g as I am in a 3g area, but on straight 3g the battery is definitely improved with this kernel. It doesn't even seem to drain unless I am using the phone.

Only problem I have had, is at one point my phone seems to have shut off on it's own. I am used to random reboots coming from DX, but I have never experienced this. I may have inadvertently done it while it was in my pocket or something, but I doubt it. Strange.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shaddix2:
pshhh. 4g doesn't use that much extra battery!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nswenson:
Uhh, yeah it does. If the signal is weak, like 2 bars, 4G draws 260ma. 3G in the same area draws 38ma. These measurements are with screen off and phone idle. That's less than 6 hours battery life on the stock 1400mah battery with the phone sitting idle. Remember it's all about signal strength. If you are far from the tower, the phone has to boost the power on the send signal. I can literally feel the phone heating up in my pocket while on 4G.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Droid_ALM2ND:
Im using Drods OC Kernel. Haven't tested my battery yet. How much of a improvement in battery life has this kernel made?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pnd4pnd:
i just had my phone turn itself off as well.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shaddix2:
Ok perhaps if you leave your phone in your pocket the whole time it will. But if you actually use it, 4g will use less power. 4G is 10 times faster than 3g, you can download 100 megs in 80 seconds. On 3g that would take you 6 and a half minutes. 3g will always use more battery if you're actually transferring data.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pnd4pnd:
most people are not downloading 100mb with their smart phones. emails and updates from various sites for which 3g is probably acceptable. i'm hoping we will be able to get an app that let's us specify which apps use 4g (like tethering or downloading from the market) and which use 3g (like mail and facebook/weather updates). then we can default to 3g most of the time and have the phone automatically switch to 4g for apps that really need it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
This would be great if it were possible.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mjforte:
For ondemand governor, what advanced settings does everybody use in Setcpu?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Russ36363:
I'm still using the default for ondemand, because I'm swapping between ondemand and smartass. ondemand has a tendency to get stuck at 1024 for a bit, so I have to move it to smartass for a bit then swap back.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mexiken:
Does anyone have ext4???? I flashed and the kernel took but my filesystems are still ext3. Any ideas????

Or does support mean when someone releases a "voodoo" aka ext4 converting package it will work with this kernel????
[Thunderbolt Android Development] goater1220:
Im really liking this kernel. So far so good, my phone seems a little snappier. I did setcpu at smartass and turned off the profile I had set up. Going between wifi, 3g and 4g my battery has lasted 13 hours. I have had it on wifi alot though.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dsb9938:
Don't think we're there.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jr4000watts:
Any way to speed up the current 1.9 kernel? I got quadrant score of 1750 and does not feel as fast as perfect storm. seems like everyone else is getting better luck .
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sdorn77:
I am in Atlanta under 4G coverage pretty much everywhere and it drains the battery at least twice as fast on 4G vs WiFi.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] allareconnected:
Kernel Gov definitions for us "not so smart" (yet)!

A simple search of the XDA Furoms provides The Answers when in doubt ;-) Faux123 posted some great insights into what different Terms mean as it relates to kernels. I only assume that "Smartass" means basically the same thing as what is described in the below thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=941141
[Thunderbolt Android Development] failsaf3:
My Linpack and Quadrant are just a tad lower with this kernel vs stock. But my battery is definitely better. A fair trade off for me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jr4000watts:
Life on my batt is actually bad with this set up. When I was at 1.5 actually lasted longer .Took a nap phone was at 45% woke up now at 19% 530pm to 930pm
[Thunderbolt Android Development] headcheese:
It's weird how everyone's phone is different, I'm 13 hrs. 40 pct normal use. 4G doesn't use more battery. If your having problems change your brightness or stop playing with your phone so much.

This kernel definitely helps!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shaddix2:
3g drains it twice as fast as wifi so according to that 4g should drain it 14 times faster than wifi. You are only getting 30 mins of battery life on 4g right? Don't lie
[Thunderbolt Android Development] frodsteamin2:
On Das BAMF 1.2 rom, using setcpu with smartass maxed out at 1024MHz and 1.9 kernel has been a godsend for me and battery life.

I am on constant 4G here in san diego all day (great signal all the time). Autosync on (FB, twitter, Email, HTC, Weather) and all to update as soon as possible setting or when I see widget. Texting like crazy just to test it out, changing skins, internet browsing, not to mentioned all the other stuff I have running behind the scenes, etc etc, also widgets on all screens, brightness on max and 4 hours later after full charge im only at 70% which by TB standards are damn good (at least in my experience)

Before this kernel I would not be able to anything without the battery draining like crazy in 4-6 hours. Maybe I am lucky and phone just responds well to kernel. Either way I am a happy camper.

And for that I thank Adrynalyne and Mrbobrowitz.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Russ36363:
Anyone else having widget issues with the kernel? Minimalistic Text has been stuck saying "Loading..." and nothing else for the past 12 hours, i've tried several reboots.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dsb9938:
It only takes a second to switch the kernel out. If you think that's the cause, change it and see.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Russ36363:
Yea, with 1.8 and 1.9 I'm having issues with getting widget information. It seems to hang on loading stuff from weather. Other apps can access the same information fine , and on 1.6 i'm not having issues. Not even removing the widget and putting it back works, I have to manually configure the entire widget through minimalistic text again from scratch in order for it to actually display information
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dsb9938:
Try the new kernel attached to the BAMF thread.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] solidunit:
I dont even know if this is possible with the thunderbolt, but with the incredible there are custom kernels that have "fast charging" as a feature. Would be awesome to have that with the Thunderbolt as well.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CBMC:
I am having a problem with the battery meter. It doesn't seem to be properly going down. It is stuck at a percentage until I reset the phone. I am using the new bamf kernel, but it was doing it on 1.9 and 1.8 (it started working on 1.8). Anyone else seeing this?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ridobe:
My TB chages faster than my Dinc ever did regardless of kernel.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] stevessvt:
Is there still a benefit to using this kernal if I use it set to ondemand in setcpu? Smartass and conservative made my phone a touch laggy.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Gunthermic:
Noob question. Using Virus ROM, I understand we can use this kernel as well. If not what I want how do you go back to current Kernel you have?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pinhead875:
Which current kernel do you have?

The stock kernel is in Rom Manager>Download Rom>MrBobrowitz, just reflash that.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dsb9938:
Make a backup first.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scottt732:
Thank you! I barely miss my warranty... :-P