yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xoom General] E_man5112:
This one can share usb keys (or should be able to) with the full usb port on the dock. As for spread sheets, you don't want to do those on a netbook anyway. It's pretty bad with the tiny trackpad and screen, I use a desktop for that.

If I compare my netbook (asus 1005HA) with my nook, which pales in comparison to a Tegra2 device, I see:

Nook is faster at web browsing

Nook can play youtube miles better

Similiar flash performance, slight edge to netbook

Better video capabilities on the nook

Better gaming on the nook

Much better screen on these tablets (IPS vs TN)

Throw in a USB host (like the Asus has on the dock) and an office suite (like the asus has), and the only place a netbook wins is price and app support. Heck, it might be easier to make a spreadsheet on the Asus tablet since a touch interface might help deal with issues stemming from the tiny trackpad.
[Xoom General] madsquabbles:
you must have crippled your net book then. there is no way a processor equal to a crippled droid x comes close to atom processor.
[Xoom General] Magnesus:
From what I heard some netbooks have very slow SSD which causes the slow performance of web browser for example.
[Xoom General] Charlie_Don't_Surf:
Oh boy.

***.engadget.***/2011/04/08/acers-iconia-tab-a500-soaks-up-the-wifi-rays-hits-shelves-apri/

It looks like the Iconia A500 is exactly the same as the Xoom for $150 less. My only issue is buying Acer hardware.I really love my Xoom but I may have to consider a return. I just hope more news comes out about this one.

* I can't post links yet so edit the link to check out this post over at engadget
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
$450 is a 16gb version for what it's worth, not 32gb.

And it's thicker/heavier. But yes quite cheaper.
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
decisions, decisions...

I am also very tempted by the Transformer. Reasons are the IPS display, the working µSD card and the awesome keyboard dock accessory. I am also interested in the sound capabilities since the Xoom's sound is meager (both speaker and headphone).

Anyone else noticed that there doesn't seem to be a flash light for the camera? Not that I will ever need it but it might be handy.

With regards to the slightly bigger size - that might make it compatible with many iPad accessories, actually. I don't usually hold it when I type so the thumb keyboard won't be an issue. As stated earlier, it hugely depends on the user's physique anyway.

The Asus tab will definitely be an item to watch out for!
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
The more I look at it I am tempted too and will pre order one the day it can be. Then I'll do a side by side video with the xoom

The ips screen, working sdcard, unlimited cloud storage for a year(wonder how much it is after the year) and SRS sound is really pushing me towards the transformer.
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
I think I heard in one of the videos that it is around $5 per month after the first year. Not bad for unlimited space.

[sent with Xooming Android technology]
[Xoom General] e.mote:
Asus TF wins over Acer A500. Next up: Asus vs Toshiba.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Compute...ts/pcmcat239100050003.c?id=pcmcat239100050003
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
not bad at all for unlimited storage. Another cool thing is that it's not even out yet and they already released the source and I read they plan on having an OTA a few weeks after it's release. Good sign they will be on point with updates.

I use to use asus motherboards in pc's that I would build. They were always solid. That's well before they even made anything else except motherboards. Their machines were always cheaper not because they were cheaply made but because they had the resources to make a lot of the internal components themselves and not have to go to outside companies as much. I also know that they actually built OC support into some of their laptops. What company do you know loads a program on their pc's when it's shipped that allows you to safely overclock it? Not too many that I know of :) ok.. I'm officially waiting very impatiently for this device now.. Still undecided if I will keep or sell my xoom
[Xoom General] bbeelzebub:
That eee pad Transformer looks nice, but it's odd how all the specs I've seen listed say LED flash on the camera, but the units don't actually have one.

The Acer Iconia A500 sounds like it has EVERYTHING, but there is doubt as to what screen is actually on it. Some sites claim IPS, some MVA and some TN. Who knows?

I hated the Xoom. So much that I bought an iPad... only to return it after exchanging three different ones due to screen bleeding and was bored anyhow because the novelty ran out.

I'm between the eee Pad, the Acer and the Toshiba Tablet.
[Xoom General] checkbox111:
The catch is, no ones talking about it :eek: people might miss it because of lack of publicity, what a total class device, the screen is fantastic knocks spots off the xoom (sorry xoom owners) and the GTab.

The keyboard dock has full USB 2.0, HDMI, wifi released next weekend 16th april £379 or £429 with dock, already cancelled my xoom order :rolleyes:
[Xoom General] e.mote:
Acer A500 viewing angle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg2GjKNhvWc&t=367

Acer A500 size/weight comparison vs Xoom vs iPad 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg2GjKNhvWc&t=245

Other diffs:

. Xoom, iPad 2, Samsung GalTab 9/10 have 2.4/5GHz wifi; Toshiba, Asus, Acer have 2.4GHz-only.

. Acer & Toshiba have built-in USB ports, 1 full-sized, 1 mini-; Asus has 2 full-sized USB on dock only.

. Toshiba has replaceable battery, regular SD slot.

The Tosh will probably be USD$450-500. The Samsung 10 will be $500. The Xoom 16GB will likely be $500. Asus is price leader for this round.

>The catch is, no ones talking about it

Hahah, good joke.

One thing I'm curious about is whether Asus will put out 432409409813 different tab models like it does for netbooks.
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
Has any word come out regarding the boot loader being unlocked for the Asus (or as a matter of fact any other manufacturer's) tablet?

[sent with Xooming Android technology]
[Xoom General] e.mote:
Somebody is at least working on it...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12776912&postcount=401

I don't think it's a big deal. Locked bootloaders show up in smartphones because carriers don't like "improper" uses (read: free tethering). That incentive doesn't exist for wifi tabs.

One can argue rooted tabs can lead to higher support costs, given avg user's noobness. But viewing through the P/L lense, locking down the device means devoting precious development assets that these hardware-oriented vendors don't have much of. Such assets would be better deployed in differentiating the device with proprietary software enhancements. Like, say, a decent multimedia player.
[Xoom General] checkbox111:
It's not the viewing angle i'm worried about (even though the Asus has a better 'wider' one) it's the way that colors and contrast leap out at you :)

But acer lovers look, acer iconia a500 3g at £456.00 that's a great price :eek:
[Xoom General] keitht:
Not sure if this has been mentioned but you can charge the Transformer using USB when in sleep mode or powered off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Wg3Tbjukc&feature=player_detailpage

skip to 3:22.
[Xoom General] rjoudrey:
Wonder how long it takes to charge with 5v vs 18v?
[Xoom General] keitht:
Probably a long time but a nice to have if you are without the charger and out of juice.
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
Hmmm, it doesn't look that bad. The bezel is too large, and yet again the manufacture puts their logo on the front.
[Xoom General] rjoudrey:
That fact that is uses USB compatible charger means the only way it charges is with 5v correct? probable takes about 5 hours+.

I know people knock the Xoom proprietary charger but I don't think you can push 18v through a USB compatible charging brick.
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
The Acer doesn't have IPS:

Display Type

High-definition 16:10 WXGA widescreen touch screen (1280 x 800)

from best buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Acer+-+...llic/2512059.p?id=1218332577304&skuId=2512059

Neither does the Toshiba:

Display Type	High-definition wide view LED-backlit display

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Compute...ts/pcmcat239100050003.c?id=pcmcat239100050003

The acer is also thicker and heavier than the xoom

And the asus is the only one that has srs sound and as a musician, that's a huge plus over the other tabs. I love my xoom and I think I will hold on to it no matter what and at first I wasnt going to get anything else but these things are making me want the transformer:

ips screen

srs sound

working sd card (even though the xoom is the only one that doesnt have a working one of the said 3)

I honestly dont even care about the dock. These 3 things alone are the major selling point for me
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
WXGA refers to the resolution, not the panel type. I'm pretty sure it has an IPS display. You just don't know what you're talking about ^^
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
slash gear also reports that it doesnt have ips

http://www.slashgear.com/asus-eee-pad-transformer-vs-acer-iconia-tab-a500-08145156/

"Not all 10.1-inch displays are created equal, and ASUS’s decision to use an IPS LCD on the Eee Pad pays dividends. It’s one of the best panels we’ve seen on a tablet, offering iPad-like viewing angles no matter which orientation you’re holding the slate in. ASUS reckons it’s a 178-degree view angle, and in comparison the 160-degree Iconia Tab with its regular LCD is distinctly average."
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
Um... what?

"...ASUS’s decision to use an IPS LCD on the Eee Pad pays dividends."

"It’s one of the best panels we’ve seen on a tablet,"

What tablet do you think they're talking about?

The only other tablet mentioned in that paragraph is the Iconia Tab, in which they state:

"...comparison the 160-degree Iconia Tab with its regular LCD is distinctly average."
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
umm what?? is right... ASUS has IPS.. ACER does not...

Read what you just said...

I said the ACER did not have ips.. you fired back saying it did and I didnt know what I was talking about so I post that quote from sg stating the ASUS having ips and ACER not and this is your reply? Yes, in that quote they are talking about the ASUS having IPS and the Acer not having IPS....which was exactly my point. You're response to that makes zero sense. I think you are starting to get confused with the like sounding names
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
Ohhhh lol, you said that Acer. I misread, my apologies.
[Xoom General] Android-hotness:
I returned my Xoom after 9 days. I really like the Xoom, but the Asus Transformer was a better deal in term of cost and hardware (IPS screen).
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
lol no worries :)
[Xoom General] bbeelzebub:
Thanks for the info.

I suppose I'll wait and see if there are any reports of light leakage on the Transformer... Although, it appears from the other thread there are. I had three iCrap pads with it and am wondering if the glue process for IPS is what contributes.

I don't mind not having IPS if it means more solid blacks.
[Xoom General] evorgevol:
I cant see any light leakage on my eee pad. I charged it up on friday evening and with pretty high usage i'm charging it this morning. Its taken about 2 hours to fully charge from the plug/USB provided :-) I have to say, I'm fully loving it! :-)
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
Uhm , so you already have the Asus Transformer?

[sent with Xooming Android technology]
[Xoom General] checkbox111:
Some people get 'stuff' early, there's a courier guy that comes into our office and he's always got gadgets before everyone else :cool:

He had a Galaxy Tab 7' about two weeks before it was offically released, and now he's also got an Asus, that where i saw it first.

If you've seen some reviews or the back, you might think it looks a bit plasticky?? it doesn't in reality, it's very solid and the rear cover when polished looks and feels like carbon fibre!

Downer? the bezel looks a bit large!
[Xoom General] evorgevol:
i live in the uk and it came out here last wednesday. mine got delivered on friday; love it so far. cant say i notice the bezel much, but then ive upgraded from the advent vega...
[Xoom General] rosentorp:
Transformer

Hi, where did you by your Transformer? link?
[Xoom General] checkbox111:
I thought the official UK release wasn't until next monday 18th?

I went to a comet store today and they said i can order one but it won't be delivered until next wednesday at the earliest :confused:

What's wifi reception/signal like? as it's a plastic back cover i would think that it's pretty strong?
[Xoom General] JimmyHACK:
if i didn't have or could return my xoom.. i would easily go with the asus. So if you are looking to buy now i would get it now or within the next couple weeks when it ships to rest of the world.
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
Do you also have a Xoom to compare with?!? I don't really want to buy another tablet just to sell the one I like less. But most likely this will happen...
[Xoom General] checkbox111:
The thing about the xoom is that it ships with either of two screens, you'll either get one fitted with a sharp = crap and is where all the negative reviews came from quoting 'poor contrast and washed out colors'. Or you be lucky and get one with a sony.

Well: do you feel lucky? punk :D
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
I got the one that has not the SHP or whatever the acronym was. So I guess this punk here is lucky :D
[Xoom General] madsquabbles:
this is what makes me hesitant about ordering another xoom online (if i decided to get the xoom again instead of the transformer). if i happen to get the crappy screen i'll definitely be pissed. it'll be easier to exchange locally if that happened.
[Xoom General] catttman:
AUO and SHP ... in my area
[Xoom General] gubiguy:
I'm totally xchanging my tune now... forget about the Xoom. After seeing some hands on demonstrations with the eee pad, I want one! When's the estimated US release date?
[Xoom General] lordgodgeneral:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/11/transformer-rooted-before-asus-can-get-it-out-the-door/

Looks like we don't have to worry about it being locked down.
[Xoom General] braingravyuk:
Just been out to the shops to have a play on the eee pad, was impressed. Bear in my I've not played on a Xoom though, I've actually got that pre-ordered but Motorola is being an arse getting it released.

I had a place with the acer, don't like the styling of it and the thing wasn't connected to the net so didn't do much, think am going to buy the eee pad now, nice styling to it too.
[Xoom General] mrlazyone:
I was actually deciding between the xoom and transformer as well and stumbled on this thread when looking for a transformer subforum but I guess its not here yet. Does XDA generally wait for the actual release date before a subforum is created?
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
I think the Xoom sub forum was out weeks before the actual release date. Check the first post dates.

[sent with Xooming Android technology]
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
You're wrong.. the shp has better color and contrast by has more bleed. The ao has dulled colors but no bleed

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/48269?tstart=0
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
Well, if I have the "bad" screen then I would love to see the good one. Mine is pretty neat but yeah, far from perfect. That's why the IPS is so intriguing to me.

[sent with Xooming Android technology]
[Xoom General] DroidHam:
IF you could get EITHER For the same price, which would you take? Without the keyboard dock
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
Since I haven't used my 3G yet and the 4G is not available I will most likely not miss it. I connect via BT tether to my iPhone when on the road.

There are a few things I don't like about the Xoom, namely the stupid positioning of the connection ports (or maybe just the lack of 90° bent cables) and the miserable sound. The display could also be beefed up but apart from that I love it. I would have to see what the Transformer really looks like to give you a more detailed opinion but the better sound and the IPS display sound delicious. And of course the keyboard dock would sell me! My advice: Have a side-by-side comparison and then decide; don't listen to everyone else, especially not in a XOOM forum
[Xoom General] graffixnyc:
I plan on keeping the xoom and getting the transformer. I definitely will do a side by side comparison video of the two. I plan on ordering from bestbuy as soon as its available and pick it up in store the day its released
[Xoom General] braingravyuk:
I've got both devices arriving today, going to do some mean testing of the two and decide from there, no keyboard dock for the transformer though since they haven't got the stock :(
[Xoom General] kalfou:
If anyone could make YouTube video comparison of the two that would be awesome

Sent from the Aids ridden slums of China using the claw of an unborn rat
[Xoom General] checkbox111:
Well there's always a first time for us all ;)
[Xoom General] VaKo:
Just checked on Amazon, the EEE Transformer has been delayed until June 1st.
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
Several reports show end of april still....
[Xoom General] braingravyuk:
well I was going to do a side by comparison but I've sold the xoom to a friend. Its very close between them but screen swung it for me, just isn't as nice as the transformer but I did prefer the xoom's styling, not to say the tranformer is bad though.

There is something Asus got right off the bat though ... the ability to set the user agent n the browser and by default its set to desktop!
[Xoom General] gogol:
That certainly is a nice touch! :)
[Xoom General] VaKo:
http://www.reghardware.com/2011/04/14/asus_eee_pad_transformer_slips/

Would seem to be supply issues more than anything. Not sure who else stocks it.
[Xoom General] predo:
shame you didn't even take a single side by side photo...
[Xoom General] braingravyuk:
I'll take some shots over the weekend, my mate ended up getting it from me
[Xoom General] Earthbrain:
.....and now you have one less friends. :D
[Xoom General] DeerChaser:
I set my user agent once and it has stayed. Xoom wifi.
[Xoom General] braingravyuk:
If I remember correctly, it won't remember it when you reboot.
[Xoom General] DeerChaser:
Well I cant speak for others but mine has stayed on desktop. I turn this unit off several times a day. By off I mean shut down completely.
[Xoom General] Alex2x3:
I'm really thinking about returning the xoom for the transformer mostly because of the IPS screen and maybe the dock. Plus I hate the xooms speaker location.

But the larger size is kinda scaring me away. The bezel looks ALOT bigger then xooms, especially length wise. I personally think the xoom is absolutely amazing design wise. Think the build quality will be like Motorola's? You guys think the size will be really noticeable? Should I return the zoom while I can?

Also the idea of cyanogen support is leaning me toward the Asus.
[Xoom General] keitht:
I think you will need to decide for yourself which is best for you. I have no plans to return mine mostly because of the Verizon service. I didn't think I wanted it at first, but it is nice to have when you are not around WiFi and do not want to drain your phone battery tethering. I do wish the speakers were on the side but it is not that big a deal to me since I use headphones when I want to listen to music or watch a video.

The XDA Asus EEE Pad forums are live so you may want to check there for build quality. I already read some reviews there on that.
[Xoom General] leeharo:
I should often use my tablet for typing notes in lectures and meetings, so a good keyboard is quite essential for me in some senses...

however i am really concern about the width, weight of the tablet and how comfortable when i am holding it for reading notes

any ideas on which should i choose?

i hv got a xoom in hand and ordered a transformer which will be delivered to me next thursday
[Xoom General] mith500:
found a review of the iconia a500

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/review/broadband/acer/iconia_a500/381853

I am confused, all the hands on videos I have seen so far suggest that the viewing angle is great...but in this review it says:

"Indoors the display produces vibrant colour and crisp text, but its glossy surface makes it very tough to see in direct sunlight, and its viewing angles aren't great. Importantly, the Iconia A500's display is responsive to touch.:
[Xoom General] gogol:
Iconia is

not

using IPS screen.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
It looks like the base price of the Toshiba ANT-100 is $450 at 8GB as I predicted. The 16GB is $500, and the 32GB is $580.

Using 16GB as the baseline, call it an even $500, on par with the future Xoom 16GB, and a bit more than the others in the 1st-tier crop. Let's hope it fares better than the ill-fated Tosh Folio (which also had a Teg2, if anyone remembers).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...EPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=toshiba+ant
[Xoom General] madsquabbles:
after more research I think I'll be swaying towards getting the xoom again. ips screen is nice, but the angles mean nothing to me as I generally look at the front of the device, not at 120 degrees off. the xoom has richer blacks and higher contrast but doesn't get as bright which also isn't an issue for me as I generally keep my tablets at the lowest setting.

I dislike the lack of USB transfer without asus' proprietary cable. even though charge and sync are on different connections it just more convenient for me not to buy more clutter with extra cables. downside would be no emergency charging via USB if I needed it.

plus side is that asus is pretty good at supporting mobos they don't mfg any more. there are quite a few that they kept putting out bioses for to support new technology. instead of telling you to get a new mobo the update the bios. perhaps the transformer will have the same support.

I'm making my decision next weekend on whether to get the transformer or go back to xoom.
[Xoom General] DeerChaser:
After lurking in the Asus forums, I see alot of screen bleed and creeking if picked up with one hand. Can't say for sure as I dont own one. Keeping my Xoom...
[Xoom General] keitht:
No notification LED on Transformer. May not be an issue to some but important to me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] textron:
I have spiderwebs all over my TP2 Verizon. Touch screen still works. Asurion wants to replace it with a Samsung Omnia 2 and I'm not interested.

Question comes in that if I want to fix my phone what's broken the LCD or the Digitizer or both? Or is it just easier to try to find one for sell?

My refurbished phone does have weird bugs like battery drain fast regardless of which 4 I use. It's different than the original TP2 I had. As matter of fact I had 3 different TP2's at once because the replacement one they sent didn't charge and all were somewhat different physically. The screen sometimes goes perm sleep if I retracting the keyboard too hard and problem with text messages slowing down my phone.
[HTC Inspire 4G] tribalartgod:
I hope you enjoy this. These are pretty easy for me to make, so if you have a request... :-) ... At any rate, "thank" me if you like it and use it. And if you screw anything up and your phone explodes, or breaks, or Smurfs attack from outer space, it's your fault. you have been warned!

How to flash:

1. Unzip the file so you have "splash1.img" and place this file in your "tools" folder of your SDK package.

2. Boot into your bootloader (fastboot mode)

3. From the command prompt: Change directories to your SDK "Tools" folder then type:

fastboot flash splash1 splash1.img

4. Reboot and enjoy
[HTC Inspire 4G] mudknot2005:
Got a preview pic by chance. Also check your pm's.
[HTC Inspire 4G] tribalartgod:
Preview pic should be up... I see it on my end?? It's HUGE. lol..

Anyone else not see the pic?

EDIT: Just checked the OP on a different PC, and pic WAS NOT showing up. This has now been corrected. ...
[HTC Inspire 4G] smalis:
How do we revert to default, if desired?
[HTC Inspire 4G] tribalartgod:
You will have to re-flash the default boot splash. Using the same method as mentioned.

Note: I will update the OP with the stock Boot splash as well, once I receive my phone.