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[G Tablet General] Rumbleweed:
I don't think the majority of the users are treating Wooters as idiots, just trying to make their Gtab experience a good one. R emember that when most of us started adding ROMs there weren't several stock builds and several dozen flavors of ROMs to choose from. Also the users that experienced severe interaction problems were bleeding edge guys who expected issues and were willing to work through them. Based on many of the new owners questions, many are expecting to load a new ROM and have an ipad killer. As you read the rooting instructions don't skip the " Risk" section.
[G Tablet General] vaccdroid:
Its not just going to be the wooters. Circut City and Tiger Direct selling it for $299. there will be alot of wooters, Tigers and Circiters I guess. This forum is going to explode soon with folks. I dont think people are condesending but I think alot of folks are nerveous about the amount of people coming in here by next weekend.
[G Tablet General] h3llphyre:
Here's the biggest drawback I see.

1.) Influx of lazy forum users who post a question without searching. Those new threads go unanswered or with more knowledgeable members say "Use the search". Now, non-lazy forum users come in, with their newly purchased GTab, hit the search, and they end up with 3 pages of useless threads as listed before.

2.) The knowledgeable members need to work on concentrating the info into ONE FAQ or Wiki style. Right now, the number of stuck threads is getting a tad ridiculous. When there are 12 stuck threads that say "READ FIRST", it falls into the same category as the saying "If everything is high priority, nothing is".

I almost wish we could lock the ROMs from being downloaded, until someone has READ 10 threads (as opposed to being able to post in the dev section prior to posting 10 times).

In saying all that, I read a lot before I bought my tab, I read a few threads multiple times AFTER I bought my tab, to make sure I was doing it right. I just wish others had the same patience and diligence.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Nervous? I'm terrified. :eek:

I've been on the Woot! GTAB discussion thread, heavily. Long before I chimed in, XDA was mentioned repeatedly over there.

When I re-wrote my ROM posts, I moved the downloads nearer to the bottom, on purpose, with the hopes that new users would read through the post first. Probably unlikely, but worth a shot.

Btw, there's already a request for a Wiki or main FAQ section, via the moderator thread in General (I chimed in, as well). But I don't get the feeling that it's going to happen, at least not yet.
[G Tablet General] akodoreign:
Lol, I was one of those answering questions and pushing people sitting on the fense over into our yard.

Great device- Great people here :) Talked work into picking up 9 for the techs :D.

Selling my personal one and picking up a xoom (got a work one comming now )

I have seen the n00b bashing on this forum before... Sometimes I sympathise with both sides though....

I have seen where the whole first page is 75% I have bricked my tablet HELP!!! and then someone else posts same thing again....

Other times I have seen a single Help post only to be met with USE THE SEARCH N00b!!!... When the issue actually wasn't something answered completely before..

SO I think we all need to take a chill pill (except Roebeet, He is totally exempt and allowed to throw a fit if he wants :D he he) And just deal with answering the same question 5k times :D. The returns from it should be pretty good. The larger the community the more developers etc we will also inherit :)
[G Tablet General] Walruski:
I am a fellow wooter and am looking forward to getting my G tablet tomorrow. I was pretty intent on doing a mod but with recent posts I am re considering that decision. I just hope that Honeycomb is released for the device eventually, although I will not hold my breath.

Roebeet, I think you should look at this as an opportunity. I have not even received my tablet yet but I have already donated $5 to you. There are over 10,000 new owners who could all use your advice and your expertice. If they all do the same you could have a nice side career. I hope I will never have to bother you for any assitance. I think I will stay stock for a while and then maybe I will try a ROM. I am not a total newb, I did manage to successfully root my Droid and install Gingerbread, but I am always squeamish about modding devices. You can fail a heck of lot easier than you can succeed. But if I do ever need help I think that you are the guy!
[G Tablet General] vaccdroid:
Think I am more on the fence about modding also due to the low cost of thbis tablet. If you do something to it you cant return it for a new one at woot. Woot doesnt really do returns easy and if they do take it back you get your money back not a new one. then if you want another you will have to get lucky looking for another deal ( like at Tiger Direct this weekend) or buy one for $400. For me thats too risky to just play around with it.

ALso as for honeycomb on here. Probally a better chance that it will happen considering that there are 10-15 thousand more G Tablet owners now then there were last week. They dont support devices for long if they dont sell but this G tablet is now a big seller. * Woot-Circut Ciity-Tiger Direct etc).
[G Tablet General] poqeteer:
Well I think those who might feel that way, need to do a reality check. It is really is hard being a noob and everyone starts out as one.

Yes, I am a deal hunter but hardly an uninformed consumer. Hopefully people are aware of what they are getting themselves in for, but true there will be some who have no clue.

From what I have seen/read, the seniors and mods have been good and fair, but like other blogs, the search sucks and people get scared/frustrated so patience and education will be required. It's tough reading a zillion posts to find an answer.

Just my two cents.

FYI I've been a software developer for 25+ years and was literally doing ROMs (as in burning images to silicon) before the idea of smart phones or tablets existed. I worked at a small company named "Poqet Computer" (hence the poqeteer alias), the first pocket sized PC. Unfortunately it was way before its time and like other startups... Died. Also unfortunately that has very little to do with this piece of hardware... So please be kind to this and all other noobs.

- Lance.
[G Tablet General] theroblog.com:
Wooter but experienced

Of course, there's the other range of folks like myself who have done Cyanogenmod on other devices, jailbroken iPhones, PSP mods, etc. and understand what's going on, and can read.

I just got mine yesterday, have already installed vegantab and the 5.1.1 supp via CWM, and uninstalled that, did the 3588 update via (3398?) update.zip, CWM again, and am trying to tack on the Tegra Gapps (but that isn't quote kosher enough) to 3588. Backed up my son's Angry Birds experiments with Titanium Backup.

Just don't like TnT I think. Sooo wishing for on official Honeycomb soon...but I know that's pie in the sky ATM.

I too bought it for the sweet spot of price/perf but this ain't my first rodeo.
[G Tablet General] goodintentions:
Not necessarily. For some unfathomable reason, Viewsonic has decided to stop supporting this device.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I told my wife the other day that this massive Woot! sale might be a lucrative donation opportunity, if it doesn't give me a nervous breakdown first. :eek:

She keeps telling me it would be "our money". But I don't see her on here helping out, so I don't quite get that.

(well, of course I do -- it's a wife thing. Nothing is really mine) ;)

THREAD HIJACK EDIT: In all honesty, I am eyeing a new stereo system with my ill-gotten gains. The wife has said that is an acceptable compromise. Any audiophiles got suggestions for an audiophile wannabe starting from scratch?
[G Tablet General] ArkansasRazorbacks:
Roebeet, you're actually the one person I'm NOT referring to. Your post on the possible build issue was great. I was all over that like a dog on a bone. Happy coding all!
[G Tablet General] ArkansasRazorbacks:
Roebeet, I like Klipsch myself. Bose is way over-rated. I would do a Yamaha receiver and some bad-ass Klipsch.
[G Tablet General] tekrhino:
Check out "KLIPSCH"

I spent over 12k on my Klipsch speaker system with a Kenwood base system and I don't regret it!

Superior to all!
[G Tablet General] NinetyWt:
You could even sell tickets. New stereo sytem coming up! :D
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

(drools) Need to rob a bank to get those! Looks sweet, though - thanks!

Yeah, I know enough that Bose is very over-rated. I have a decent pair of Sennheiser headphones (HD 600's) and a headphone amp running off a Cowon D3 DAP, but my stereo system is god-awful. I still lurk in headfi.org, on occasion - usually just makes me depressed, though.

I still can't believe the wife even agreed on a decent stereo system - I have to buy something before she changes her mind!
[G Tablet General] pdcullen:
I am not an audiophile per say (actually hard of hearing) but for your best bang for your buck go with headphones and headphone amp. You mentioned lossless audio somewhere so that's good.

recommend headroom (headphone dot com)
[G Tablet General] pdcullen:
I have Klipsch speakers and love them. They are bright and that works well for me. Do NOT buy speakers without hearing them, preferably in a dead room.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
FLAC FTW. I have a Cowon D3 and it was expensive, but has a nice sound. Wish it were a Tegra, though.
[G Tablet General] K J Rad:
Damn, Wooters can't even stay on topic... ;-)
[G Tablet General] aaron19953:
well, i wouldn't go thaaat far, but they are nice.. If you ain't got vacuum tubes you ain't got ... well you know..

i'm still working fine with my Onkyo and (overrated :rolleyes:) bose acoustimass, cheap and does what i need it to.

Sure i'd love a McIntosh and maybe some B&W's but it doesn't matter to me as much as it used to..
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
I have a marantz amp and pre-amp with a 96-bit DAC, and a Roku Soundbridge to play FLAC audio. Excellent :cool:

Are you also looking to get some good speakers? I may be adding a sub-woofer to my system soon, although one of my audiophile buddies is trying to get me hooked on a $2,300 sub-woofer.. ouch....
[G Tablet General] chrishaw:
Just call them all Tigers, Circuit City isn't the real store anymore, just an online store owned by Tiger Direct's parent. They also own CompUSA
[G Tablet General] Metal_in_Silk:
Say what??!

How did I miss this happening? I thought there was a major update coming soon?
[G Tablet General] nunjabusiness:
Sorry to interrupt the threadjack but ...

Sorry to interrupt the threadjack but ... ;)

I have been a wooter since sometime in early 2005, but more importantly, I was also a woot comment writer. One of the things that kept me coming back was the quality (humor and info-wise) of the posts.

Trust me when I say woot customers are every bit as smartass, superior and supercilious as anyone here. I think that some of these forums will definitely benefit from some woot-hancement.

Let me be the first to say: "BRING ON THE CATS!!!" :D
[G Tablet General] radarwz:
New Wooter here. I'm used to chilly receptions from new forums. It's all good. I can take the abuse as long as I can find value for my time here. And from what I've read so far, I will.:)
[G Tablet General] Darkrift:
I created a new page on the Droidwiki.com android wiki. If you have any specific information you want to add to it, feel free. The site has decent search engine history so the page will get found fast.

http://droidwiki.com/index.php?title=ViewSonic-G-Tablet
[G Tablet General] NinetyWt:
Cool, thanks.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
According to Viewsonic CS, there is one coming soon. Should be similar to UAT 3991 (heck, it might BE 3991 as far as we know).
[G Tablet General] goodintentions:
This major update coming soon came out last December. You've been reading old news. And like I said before, with this update the gtab should run just fine with the stock rom.
[G Tablet General] Darkrift:
he did not say "according to what I read", he said "according to Viewsonic CS" which means customer service. he stated earlier that he had called them and obtained some more information.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Ran out of my thanks for the day. :)

Will bookmark this -- once it starts getitng populated, I think we'll have a real winner on our hands. If I have time, I will help.
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
We already have a Wiki for the TegraTab community - http://wiki.tegratab.com

Please visit and contribute verified information from the sticky's on XDA - let's use what's already in place!

Thanks for your help!!!!
[Captivate General] saquibs2004:
I've tried many froyo roms and cm7 and apps don't stay open. If I switch from an app for a couple of minutes and then come back to it, it's closed and has to reopen.
[Captivate General] modest_mandroid:
Are you sure they're apps that are supposed to save their state? Are you running any sort of task killer or memory "enhancing" software? Do the roms you use have any sort of memory optimization built in?
[Captivate General] amtrakcn:
Android used a similar way of memory management to Windows Mobile.

When your memory usage reaches a level, the system starts to kill background apps. I think there are 4 tiers of killing...
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] httr_:
It is $6.99/month through vzw right?

What is the deductible? What does/doesn't it cover?

Has anyone ever used squaretrade? Its 99.99 for two years of Premium Smartphone Coverage (up to $600.00) Accidental damage claims = $50 deductible.

http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/cellphone-landing3

Any other options out there?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bigandrewgold:
i got it, it is a 100 dollar dectuable for 2 replacements(maybe 2 in a 1 yr timespan)

I think it is worth it so you dont have to shell out 600 dollars for it if you break it
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmcclure937:
Nope. I do not get insurance. I am on a 1 year contract... no sense in paying the extra $7 per month and a $100 deductible. Pass.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tribalmunky:
Squaretrade is great. Definitely recommended. Just remember they don't cover loss or theft.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gr8gorilla:
I have used insurance at least twice. I always get it. I have Square trade on my laptop but it takes a few days to get a new phone.

I have never used verizon. The price is 5.00 per month for the insurance and 1.99 for the extended warranty. The deductible is a little bit more than square trade but I know for a fact that assurion will overnight you a new phone ASAP.

Assurion does protect you from loss and theft!
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yohann14:
I always buy insurance on my phones through Verizon. It covers almost everything including loss and theft. They don't ask too many questions when submitting a claim. A new phone is shipped next day air.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tribalmunky:
That is true, I forgot this is for a phone where it's mission critical to get a replacement.

Generally it's great if you can live without it for a few days.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Silvus:
Verizon insurance problems:

1. If the water sensor is triggered they wont cover your phone,(aka you enter a moist environment(shower rainstorm ect) and it doesnt break your phone, but your phone dies later for something else and your still not covered)

2. If you Ever have dropped your phone, then they refuse to cover it.

basically your giving them 5-7 a month to be covered against software issues imo.

I'm using best buy coverage, $10 a month anything happens to my phone and i can bring it in for a new one. only thing not covered is theft.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Do Verizon/assurion or squaretrade give you a new phone or refurbished? I had problems with Sprint and their constantly changing policies with my evo. I was sent a refurbished replacement for $35 which was very poor quality, the evo was known for screen separation issues, hairline cracks on the edge of the phone, etc. Sprint sometimes makes people take their phone to a store and wait hours, tried to tell me it was water damaged from 'probably humidity from my pocket' and it was generally unpleasant getting anything repaired or replaced. How does it work for various claims, repairs, etc
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spimonkey34:
They cover lost or stolen so why would they care of it was liquid damaged or dropped? I think you may be mixing up insurance and the extended warranty.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NinjaArian:
I have gotten both new and refurbished phones from Asurion. I had one problem with the refurbished, and they sent me back another new one the next day free of charge. If you spend the money to get a thunderbolt, you might as well dish out that 6.99 a month for insurance. They protect against everything and charge a $50 deductible. Well worth it imo as I have used them 3 times with my old Moto Droid. Lol.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Picolini:
As a Verizon Wireless employee I'd like to cover this topic, as there are some COMPLETELY wrong bits of information, particularly the water part.

Insurance is through Asurion, they do the replacements. Standard Wireless Phone Protection (WPP) is now $5.18 per month and covers lost, stolen, or damaged (in

any

way) phones.

Phones come with a one year warranty which covers manufacturer defects. If your device is having issues like buttons not responding, constant freezing, resets, power issues, glitchy software, etc, we will go through troubleshooting steps to get this fixed. If not, you will get a Certified Like-New Replacement (CLNR). If we don't have any CLNRs available, you will likely get a new phone, or possibly an alternate-like device, these situations are rare and are taken on a case-by-case/phone-by-phone basis.

You can extend the warranty alone for $1.99 a month. This will cover your phone as long as it stays on your account, and as long as it's a warranty issue, of course.

You can get WPP and extended warranty, called Total Equipment Coverage (TEC) for $6.99 a month, so in this case the extended warranty part only adds on $1.81 a month. This will cover you with anything while it's still on your account.

I cannot comment on the claim limit through Asurion. They have their only policies they go by. From my understanding there is a claim limit within a certain time frame and if you reach it, they'll have to remove your coverage eventually. You'll be notified and of course have the monthly cost removed from your bill.

Deductibles just changed, so don't hold me to this but I believe feature phones (lol) are $45 to replace, and smartphones are $99 to replace. There's no additional cost for shipping, and if you get your claim finished before 12am on any day, you'll have it the next day. They're very fast.

While the deductibles went up $5-10 or so, the monthly cost decreased which I feel is better phone most as you likely won't need to use it, so you're spending less in the long run.

As for insurance on my account, it's only on my parents' lines.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaddix2:
Hell no

10char
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ERIFNOMI:
The water thing on the thunderbolt is just on the battery though. Unless there is one hidden away inside or something, you could just get a new battery.

I did get the insurance, though I normally don't. Not sure why I did, but if I ever have any sort of problem, I'll be able to get another phone quickly which is nice.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bigandrewgold:
Unless they have changed their policies recently I think oh are.wrong. my last phone got replaced after it got put in the washer.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dan0matic:
I would highly recommend getting a rider policy from your insurance provider. I have a policy that covers my Canon DSLR my bicycle (don't laugh it is worth more than my car), and my phone. This coverage costs me only a few dollars per month and will not effect my homeowners premiums if I need to use it. It does have a $100 deductible, but it is well worth it. They will replace the phone at full retail cost.

Dan
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] httr_:
So what is the advantage of getting WPP and the extended warranty?

Would pretty much anything that happens to your phone be covered under WPP?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThunderStick:
Will the WPP or Extended Warranty cover activation of the new phone?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sygnous:
I'm of the mind that, if it's gonna break (under warranty), it's gonna break within the first few months, cause that's when you beat the hell out of the phone. So for me, especially, extended warranty is pretty much meh.

The insurance for lost / theft though might be actually worth it. I've never lost a phone... I've never dropped a phone... but if, I broke my phone, I'm sure I could lose it pretty damned fast.

For $125 for the length of my contract (monthly fees), plus the potential to replace my phone twice for total of $200, I think it's worth it. Out of pocket if I needed to replace this phone twice in contract would be $325. This thing retails for what, $600?

I'll be picking up the insurance tomorrow :)

Please correct me if this is the wrong way to look at this. Usually, I don't pick up insurance or extended warranties.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gr8gorilla:
My bike is worth twice what my car is worth as well. I don't like the phone on home owners though, it shows as a claim and can cause a rate increase.

The insurance seems a little pricey but the first time you drop your phone in the toilet, or wash it in your pants (maybe your wife did it) or your dog eats it, or its in your lap and you get out of the car and it smashes into the pavement, destroying your beautiful screen, and you then you go into Verizon for a replacement, and they want 599.99 plus tax to replace it, you will think that the 5.15 per month (thats roughly 120$ over two years, plus a $99 deductible = 219) wasn't such a bad idea after all.

I mean the price of the insurance is what I would pay for one single drink at a bar on Friday night. I can handle that fee once per month for the peace of mind of knowing that if something bad happens to my expensive phone, I can replace it.

I insure all of my electronics that cost $500 or more.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skeeter123:
...phones and laptops, yes. Cars with larrrrge batteries and lotsa new tech. Yes.

fwiw
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CenFlo:
I already have insurance on two of my phones (both smartphones), but you're so freaking smooth and convincing that I want to add the insurance coverage again!!! :p
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1454:
As I see it, yes. I save 24 dollars a year by doing this. No 24 isn't very much, but 24 dollars over the course of a lifetime times interest adds up. I had to use the replacement insurance through assurion last year from my d2, and it worked fine. And considering I don't keep a phone for more than a year anyway, the then other 2 dollars a month doesn't matter, because it only kicks in after the first year. Before that, verizon goes to bat for you.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cashmore1985:
I have needed my phone insurance many times over the years not to post the extra month.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crashdogy:
I always get it and I have never had to use it.