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[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sogarth:
Actually, here's a question: based upon a link another user pointed out, the other Linux loaders use VNC to display the Linux desktop on their Android screen. That's not enough?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sogarth:
No, actually, since the initial idea didn't involve use FUSE to be able to do crazy filesystem tricks. I thought /cache was needed, though? If we can find space here and there, it might be possible to decrease the footprint in /data a bit so that people aren't squeezed so tightly on space. :p
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lindsaytheflint:
/cache is only used for temp downloads (market apk installs, email attachment previews, etc) and OTA updates. The temp downloads don't take up much space - less than 50mb usually, but the OTA updates would probably be a a bit bigger. But who uses those right? ;)

I'm one of those greedy people who have over 1gb of junk on their /data partition :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] seven2099:
This guy right here knows what its all about :)

I completely agree.

I dont expect we'll be needing half of these newer ubuntu "benefits".. but at least with larger disk space we can accomdate some real development for those people interested in creating apps, or making this a full ubuntu experience.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] seven2099:
In refference to VNC:

I just use LogMeIn.com

I can log in and have full access to my win7 machine. Given the experience would be improved greatly without the upload cap, it currently runs great.

Pretty much a cheap alternative to citrix.

Works great so far although it would be a lot easier with something that does real-time virtualization and is not, of course going through the browser.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sogo87:
actually I was thinking that using LogMeIn on the webtop would be great, but I didn't get the webtop yet so I didn't get the chance to test it.

Would you be kind enough to upload a short demonstration video of LogMeIn running on the webtop? It would help me decide should I buy the webtop or not.

thanks:D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] SS2006:
is there an option" both"

:P
[Atrix 4G Android Development] seven2099:
Absolutely! I'll upload one today when I get home from work
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lostsoulktash:
I would say more space since after just installing VLC and Pidgin I have as much as 20mb or less left.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] texasice:
I voted newer ubuntu. Specifically 10.04 or newer so we can have a working chromium-browser. All my attempts to update the dependencies has led to a non functional webtop mode under jaunty. More space should not be a higher priority. All downloads are stored on the sdcard anyway and you can easily symlink the Documents, Pictures, etc to the sdcard. Besides i increased the size of the new filesystem to 1.4GB by changing 1 number in Sogarth's script. And I'm looking at almost 50% free space.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sogo87:
thanks! :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] electronaut:
I voted for something else: working gcc

...unless of course I missed it in another thread and it is already working.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] SS2006:
maybe u shud tell sogarth about this...so the script can benefit everyone

i wanna see chrome too btw
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joeavery2:
I think Union FS would be the ideal thing, then move the FS off to free space in the internal SD. But I vote for newer Ubuntu, I do believe that the rootstock for ARM stoped at 10.4 as I have compiled it for Gumstix before and I recall it not being available at higher levels. Also what about removing Ubuntu_desktop and installing lxde_desktop? I'm not a huge fan but it has a smaller foot print.

For me rdesktop/vnc or xrdp is a key thing. I'll have a server and with access from anywhere this will be like a fullblown PC.

In any case this is amazing progress. Full Ubuntu is what it should have been... shame on MOTO!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Djazin:
Would like to see more space before I would care for a newer distro, also may be more stable after to upgrade to a newer distro. Im not a fan for a different distro on the webtop, would be more of a mess to do it. Also would like to see wiine on this at some point, as for vnc logmein covers all my client needs but would love to see a vnc server for the webtop or something like webtop using the webttop from a destop through vnc localy.

sent from my Full Ubuntu Webtop!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edounn:
I might be a minority on this but, I really like the direction you have already taken in just opening up the current ubuntu. I don't think, as a lot of people have mention in this thread and many times in others, that a full ubuntu would be better. I think we'd be loosing a lot of functionality that moto has thrown in, that is quite nice. Why do a full clean ubuntu on this? Might as well just get a netbook instead...

just my two cents for on this small subject.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] reubenyap:
Well eduonn I agree on this as well! :D The default implementation actually does work reasonably ok albeit with slight lags on the firefox browser so I think what this really needs is enough space to install a proper office solution rather than QuickOffice.

Is there any reason why Firefox 4/Chromium won't work on this older version of ubuntu?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] seven2099:
So technically you are symlinking stuff from Data to the SD and moving out from /internal to /sdcard?

I thought about doing this same exact thing.. but my fear is doing this with system files and what not, one tiny error and ur phone wont boot.

Could you write some instructions on how to make this happen properly? it would even be better to have a script, where we can define what things we can move out to SD and symlink back in.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shawnbuck:
Sorry to tell you this, but Wine isn't for ARM processors, since Windows only supports x86 ones.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] csbd:
Indeed it is. Install xtightvncviewer and openssh-client from

launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/armel

Can't think of anything else I need right now.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sogarth:
Okay, enough vacation (more or less)!

Looks like there's enough interest in getting a union filesystem up and running, even though it won't really be possible to get it working with anything beyond Ubuntu 9.04 (at least not without building some mechanism to reflash /osh to something else). Truth be told, I'd rather work on upgrading Ubuntu versions, but by the same token, if I start doing that, I'd likely never go back to get a union filesystem working. So, that one comes first, I guess!

I'll see if I can get something working nicely. Although the CWM thread looks interesting, fwict, it only really works for /data and not for /system? And most of my work is going to be in /system and /osh for this one, I think.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sogarth:
Hmm... I think I've effectively hit a roadblock.

I can get fuse.ko to load just fine. As a matter of fact, once everything is up and running, there aren't any problems getting FUSE filesystems up and running. But, I can't get a FUSE filesystem to load around the time when /osh is being loaded. I can get the supporting filesystems to load just fine, fuse.ko apparently loads just fine (although there ends up being a single reference to fuse.ko that can't be decremented, meaning that fuse.ko stays permanently loaded even though it's not being used), but the FUSE filesystem itself doesn't load.

I've tried unionfs-fuse and mhddfs (both of which work just fine once everything is up and running), and both exhibit the same behaviour. Unless somebody can think of some better way of debugging this (I've tried redirecting the output to /tmp/output and /system/output, with no luck on either), I'm going to have to shelve the idea of getting a layered union mount for /osh. :(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] csbd:
I infer the consensus desire is for more space to install additional applications.

Building from source, it would be easy enough to install files in a non-standard

location.

I'm not familiar with enough with debian packages to konw. Can they be relocated, or repackaged to install in an alternate location?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] madpoet:
I am too new to understand everything here, but I do agree that I like the current webtop and would love it more if I could add an rdp client :) The built in Citrix client is fantastic.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] gnice3d:
Suggestion

How about you DON'T assume we are using Winblows systems to manage our phones? Just provide the commands as they are provided to the device bridge or terminal and not alienate the other (vastly superior) platforms.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sogarth:
You undermine any credibility you may have had as soon as you typed the word "Winblows." If you don't understand and accept that each platform has its own benefits, then you are as blind as those you represent as running "Winblows." Especially when you're talking to a platform agnost.

In any case, the fact of the matter is that the majority of users on xda-dev at this point in time are running Microsoft Windows. So if I choose to cater to the majority of users, that's my own prerogative. And let's be honest. The majority of that group would have difficulty with anything going even slightly wrong in a checklist of commands, which is why I scripted it, so that I could provide plenty of error checking and some helpful questions - which your "commands as they are provided to the device bridge or terminal" wouldn't be able to do anywhere as easily. Besides, if you're as superior as you portray yourself to be, figuring out the commands from an inferior batch script should be trivial.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the2dcour:
LMAO don't ask the elite non-winblows user to touch DIRTY batch files ;) He might get COOTIES :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] molotof:
This cracked me up LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL !

Oh you Superior Being i think you can figure out the commands for the shell just by opening the batch file in your Superior VI text editor and cut away the low life batch file directives LOOOOOOL
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sogarth:
Two things:

I've received a tip from eval- that should let us use a partition on the external SD card. I'll be working on "productizing" his suggestion. I might go back and kick the FUSE idea a bit more, just to see if I can make it work, but I'm not holding my breath on that.

I've also received information that's led me to conclude that it's likely not worth working on the upgrade to 10.04 at this time. If that information doesn't go through, I'll look at it then, but I'll work on the upgrade to 9.10 in the meantime.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] seven2099:
Thanks!

Please do continue developement! I always look forward to see what you can do to make it a better, more functional experience.

I do want to mention something.. and hear me out.

Since osh doesnt let you use mklink style things.. what about android itself?

Why not move the majority of the whole system off the internal, to the "media" or external SD and simply mklink everything...

Android supports it and this would at least make sizable room to have the space efficiently used for webtop.. no?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sogarth:
I think you missed this part:

:D

Anything more than that, such as trying to repartition things, would (I'm guessing) require write access to parts of the OS that we don't have. Also, for eval-'s suggestion, there's no need for mklink (the Ubuntu part does support both soft and hard links, btw, although as always, hard links aren't allowed to be cross-partition).
[Atrix 4G Android Development] seven2099:
You're sir, are the brightest of the brightest. Piecing arguments so convincingly like that, with such grace and intelligence. It is truly the sign of a "genius".. a delicate one I might add, using terms like "Winblows" to describe things that are Oh so pertinent.

Go jump out a window.. oh wait, was it winblow..?

yes.. the "other" vastly superior platforms. You mental midget. The world uses Windows for the most part, hence their "vastly superior" market share. If you're so bright, then as you stated later on, keep it in your pants, open up your VI text editor and type everything in your shell..

Thanks for providing such great and useful insight. If you have nothing useful to say, SHUT UP.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] seven2099:
Thanks man, always very insightful :)

It seems I did miss that whole part.. Can't wait to see what progress you make next! :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fiodger:
Hello, dear xda users. I am kinda new in Android world- i bought HTC phone month ago and i tried to get used for it. My phone is polish version of T-Mobile G2 and its called ERA G2. I rooted it, installed Amon-Ra and tried a lot of custom ROMs. After month of using different kind of Android and HTC ROMs i stayed with RCMix 2.3, because of his speed and 2.1 Sense on it. And now my problem begins:

Today my menu button stoped working in some applications so i decided to reboot device. Everything went fine with getting off, but when phone vibrated and Era initializing screen appeared, nothing happened after that.

-I tried with removing SIM, SD and all other options but still it is frozen. After couple minutes its vibrating again and restarts.

-When i plug charger for turned off phone, charging led is on but at the same time i am turning on phone, led disappears (phone is still plugged to charger).

-I cannot go to recovery by holding Home+Power... nothing happens.

-When i am holding VOL Down and Power this unknown for me HTC/Android window appears but automatically starts some kind of loading, and when its in Simlock and opening FAT32 something it restarts and Era initialization screen is on again.

-Unfortunately i dont have any warranty for this phone and i am from Poland so professional technical support is the worst way of helping for me right now.

I really enjoyed HTC Hero and i want to enjoy it more, so please if you know any way or kind of solution, please reply ; ) [sorry for my english]
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brat.haneq:
Do You have adb set up?

By nothing happends You mean it wont turn on, or it wont run recovery?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arvan:
remove battery and put it back again. This will turn off the phone. Then try Power it up. Do you get into bootloop again?

What about recovery? Replace battery and power up into recovery. 2 things might happen. You can get into your recovery normally and reflash the rom. Or you might get a screen with a phone and a big red exclamation mark. In this case you've lost your recovery and need ruu install.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fiodger:
brat.haneq---> i ment that i cant go to recovery- i have initialization screen and nothing happens.

So, first of all i restarted my phone a lot of times in different combinations (with SIM, without SD etc.). I cannot get to recovery when i am pressing power+home buttons and nothing happens, no exclamation mark like arvan said. I just see blue initialization screen from Era (it says Era G2 Touch)as always. Normally after some seconds it dissapears and normal bootscreen from ROM shows up, but not this time. Any thoughts?

Oh, and what is adb set up? Cheers ; )
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arvan:
So I guess You've really lost the recovery.... And as I said, RUU install will help...
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fiodger:
Okay, but how i can install RUU? I tried from PC but Windows doesnt see my device... Any other option?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arvan:
have you got the drivers? they come with htc sence. what does your pc see instead of hero? there might be some unknown device in the device manager if it's a driver problem.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdmcPL:
Install RUU form SDcard (extract ROM.zip from RUU, rename it to HEROIMG.zip and put it to root of SDcard) using HBOOT mode.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChosSimbaOne:
There's a guide explaining the steps here :-) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=714519
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AuroEdge:
If the kernel you use supports voodoo color does it work automatically? Or do you need support apps like for BLN or voodoo sound?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kevin Gossett:
Voodoo color works at 100% brightness only
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AuroEdge:
Do I just blast the brightness and it works?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHoLyx:
Yeah,

you can visit

Project-Voodoo.org

for further information.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssignature:
What does that do for battery life?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hbc.ciccone:
Terrible things....i assume
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHoLyx:
Do people know pressing the notification bar sets the brightness?

Left is lowest middle is middle and right is highest, so when I don't use it,

I put it in lowest and when I do, I put it highest for better quality.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jrex:
That is such an awesome feature! Just slide your finger across the status bar left or right and voila!

Rock on!
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tbeas:
That is pretty cool, they also make widgets that you can quickly control your brightness. The one I use is made by curvefish.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezas:
The above works as long as you have auto-adjust brightness turned off.

Just wanted to save a few it doesn't work on my phone posts.
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] josip-k:
ok,here's the thing;WE NEED TO DISCUSS WICH IS THE BEST ANDROID FOR OUR BELOVED PHONE,SONY ERICSSON XPERIA X1!

I think that we should do this.because,I think I am not the first one that thought of it,and I think we all searched for the best android for xperia x1,but we didn't find the 'thing'.we should discuss,help,and find the best android.if HTC has it,why xperia x1 shouldn't?allright,lets get to the thing.

I was testing androids lately,and here's the results:

Honeycomb V.2:

very fast

wifi good

browser didn't crash

market didn't crash

graphics is acceptable

apps run smoothly (except angry birds)

now the bad things:

slooooooow download (ninjump was downloading for over an hour!)

drains the battery.

the biggest problem is battery draining.I boot it when the battery is full,im in school all day,and I leave it home.I come back from school,to find out that the battery is only about 15 % full.my grade: 3/5.

purefroyo:

super fast with high performance kernel!!

wifi good

graphics are awesome!

now some really bad things:

market crashes all the time!

browser won't even load!

I haven't tested the battery yet...

my grade:3/5 (it would be 5/5 if market didn't crash all the time,even if it drains the battery fast.)

froyo 2.2.2 f1 and gingerbread 2.3.1 testing in process,ill give a feedback soon ;)

you can tell anything about any android,suggest,ask,ANYTHING!!
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] the banished:
dont forget keyboard problems.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaco13579:
hi can anyone help

i got my sgs about a mouth ago and thought that i would root it. i read up on it

so i rooted it to i9000xxjp2 2.2 which i thought was the lasted update then realised it was not so i went to go in download to do the lasted update but would not let me by the 3 button combo or by a jig the phone works fine itself apart from there is no network signal and can't connect to my pc but can connect to wifi

plz can any one help:confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fuma:
Hi

try reinstalling the drivers through the program kies - see if the pc then recognize the phone.

did you try getting in recovery mode? you have cwm? you didnt say. if yes change the modem with a flashable zip ,that might solve the no signal.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaco13579:
thanks can not get into recovery or cwm but i can now see my phone in my computer but keeps saying connecting in kies
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fuma:
in phone go to settings -> applications ->develompment and enable usb debugging.

then you can connect to computer without kies.

youcan also try under wireless and network go to USB settings and choose "ask on connection"

does this helps?

did you try again to get into download mode with jig ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaco13579:
i have tried it in debugging i can see the drives but when i click on them all it says is insert disk but i can go into them if debugging is turned off

and i have tried the jig several times now

if you need more info plz ask thanks

thanks for the replys

is there any thing else i can try
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fuma:
Hi

well there are the threads dedicated to the lack of download mode, you read them and tried it? (other then jig thread)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=785201

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=821698

download drivers from perka's file stash. give it another go ...

i think you changed bootloaders and it messed the mods. but for this you'll need some with more experience then me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttf:
hi,

If you want the 3B combo, you must flash the bootloader fix :http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=785201.

Check your drivers, cable (stock one) and if you, check wireless -> USB settings -> Kies mode selected.

About the network signal, check you EMEI (*#06#), if it's a default one, something happened to your /EFS folder (restoring a previous backup can, probably solve that issue).

GL.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaco13579:
hi thank for the reply but till no luck

i have tried flashing the bootloader but kies does not see the phone keeps say connecting i have reinstalled the drivers for kies still no luck but i did still try with odin3 but it just said fail. and the and the adb just opens and close

i do not have USB settings on the phone

have looked at the IMEI and it is the same on the box

when i rooted my phone i was not aware of EFS folder letalone backing it up

is there any thing else i can do plz
[EVO 4G General] derekfaircloth:
What is your experience with this? With my roms working and hdmi working I want to give it a try. Your thoughts?

Sent from my MIUI powered Evo
[EVO 4G General] 4 Door Skyline:
I haven't been able to put it down, they run smooth, like if it were on the original systems! The n64 one is being tweaked at the moment but the rest kick ass, do it, you wont regret it

Sent from my Ginger ***** Supersonic
[EVO 4G General] mchlwvr614:
Is there any way to use the wiimote to control the android environment, not just game emulators?
[EVO 4G General] 4 Door Skyline:
I haven't really researched it, but as far as I've seen on here, no. It would definitely be cool to use it as a remote for when it's connected via HDMI for watching movies or photo slideshows or music.

Sent from my Ginger ***** Supersonic
[EVO 4G General] mchlwvr614:
Yeah thats what I have found too. Would definitely be cool if it did work.
[EVO 4G General] theundeadelvis:
Wiimote is great! I also use it with the classic controller for games that require a few more buttons.
[EVO 4G General] Tracker Tim:
Going to try it.

Thanks
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
My wiimote doesn't seem to want to work with my emulators. I assign the correct buttons in the emulator settings but they never work. But the wiimote apps notice that I am pressing the buttons so do the emulators settings menu but when in game no such luck.any suggestions?
[EVO 4G General] Jfree3000:
From what I have been told is that the Wiimote doesn't work on sense roms, what rom are you using?
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
Yea the Wiimote doesnt work with Sense because of the Bluetooth Stack, anyway I am running CM7 Nightly 22 and am using a Wiimote with MotionPlus built in, I believe this may be the problem but who knows.
[EVO 4G General] deviouskater:
Did you set the wiimorw as your keyboard. If your using nesoid or snesoid make sure you check "use input method under other settings