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[Nexus S Accessories] jonjon68:
I always chuckle when I see people using screen "protectors" They should call them screen quality destroyers. That's the only purpose they serve. Useless in my 5 years of smartphone usage.
[Nexus S Accessories] AtomicPC:
I'm with jonjon here. I always laugh when people try to show me something on the phone and you can't see it because it has a protector on it.
[Nexus S Accessories] damnmisur:
I'm an energy advisor, I crawl around under houses and in attics, screen protector is a must! But damn if I can't put it on without at least one bubble.
[Nexus S Accessories] asanthadenz:
never use one, feel like its harder to view with one on!
[Nexus S Accessories] burnt455:
i only use the hard case from c*pd*se... nothing on my screen... and no scratch until now... already 3 months...
[Nexus S Accessories] mrmylanman:
I never had a screen protector for my NS4G which I bought on launch day. No case either, and the screen is in perfect shape but the battery door is somewhat scratched up. Nothing too major, though.

I am always sure to put it in the pocket without the keys though... haha.
[Nexus S Accessories] LuffyPSP:
I'm rocking my Nexus S and SGS2 without any SP and casings! :D
[Nexus S Accessories] ackbarthegreat:
no screen protector here :D
[Nexus S Accessories] DroidHead:
No screen protector here ... but I have a small scratch.

It is a true pain in the ass to apply a screen protector on a curved display!
[Nexus S Accessories] darklord74:
Wish SNS had gorilla glass

no case because i pop my phone in and out of the samsung car mount (which is awesome btw) but I wish my phone had gorilla glass so I could go without a screen protector too. :( no scratches so far and almost a year old
[Nexus S Accessories] vvaffles:
if you look really really carefully you should be able to see scraches on the screen. AMOLED has such a dark screen that when looking at it directly its hard to see, but if you wipe it and it has a little bit of moisture you should be able to see it. I put on a screen protector though, not because im scared of scratches but i hate finger prints all over my screen, and those SGP screenies does wonders.
[Nexus S Accessories] resetreflectt:
All this reading made me rip off my Invisible Shield. My Nexus looks so sexy now.
[Nexus S Accessories] rewen:
I've never used a screen protector on any of my phones other than a non-touchscreen LG Keybo way back in the day.

I've never scratched any screens, but I've done a number on bodies.

My Nexus S flew out of my breast pocket the other day while I was chasing a receipt down the road. It bounced all over the pavement. Front is still flawless. Battery cover looks like hell.

I used to have a Motorola Q.. that thing went through an insane amount of abuse and never got a scratch either. It once fell out of my car door and into 1cm of running water (it was raining very heavily). I then proceeded to step on it and twist my foot as I was getting out of the car. It was gravel under the water. One of the qwerty keys actually peeled apart, and the clear plastic around the screen was shredded. But the screen itself, looked new still!

Anyway, I'd rather spend $6 to get a new battery cover or bezel or body or even screen instead of paying as much or more for a protector that is going to annoy me 24/7.
[Nexus S Accessories] sulaweyo:
Have it since it's out (or at least since it arived from the US) and no scratch at all.

All i use is a sleeve to protect it when i have it in the bag or pocket.
[Nexus S Accessories] Deus_eps_machina:
I've had the nexus s for about...well as long as its been out. Never applied a protector and never used the cases. Its spotless.
[Nexus S Accessories] fineazbro:
i bought mine at the bestbuy store here in the US i had them install a zagg screen protector which i peel off today boy i tell you i wish i would of done that sooner the pictures looks so much better without it.. then again maybe it just my eyes anybody else notice the difference....
[Nexus S Accessories] navillos:
I dont know why people have a hard time with screen protectors (applying them I mean). If you get a bubble or debris under it when installing, use some scotch tape and peel up the problem area. Then use another piece of tape to pull the debris off the protector then ease it down again. Works for me every time i always end up with a flawless install.
[Nexus S Accessories] njd15:
After reading the post.... I had forgotten how nice the screen looks with out a screen protector...I removed it and it looks great! I had the zagg screen protector which was also good at the beginning but after a few scratches and dings o the protector it looked wack.. now appreciating the coating the phone has! :-)
[Nexus S Accessories] Jamdat33:
I had a screen protector and a case on mine for the longest, but I recently took them off and rediscovered how beautiful this phone is. Never again.
[Nexus S Accessories] litanyoffail:
I run a Ghost Armor screen protector, and only the screen. The full body kit is the stupidest idea I've ever seen.

The problem with the oliophobic coating: Sure, our phone looks damn sexy without a protector or a case (I had a Incipio feather case. Looks really nice, isn't too much different from a naked phone), but after about two months of use, the coating started wearing off in certain areas. Some parts of the screen were still repelling fingerprints like a boss, but other parts (namely, the keyboard area because I use Swype, and the corner where the D-pad for most games goes) were actually starting to stay oily.

tl;dr The oliophobic coating wears off after a while, and even without scratches the screen starts to look like ****. I'm happy with my ghost armor screen protector and no outer case.
[Nexus S Accessories] Lzryde:
I used to carry my LG Optimus One in my pocket with change in it. No scratches on the screen itself, but had a few nicks on the top of the phone body. I'll take my chances with Nexus S too.
[Nexus S Accessories] farishafiq:
Removed

Im removing my screen protector NOW.
[Nexus S Accessories] shockem:
What ive noticed is that with my protector on i can see the colours being lighter. And under light just plain disgusting. ( SLCD) So just wondering will removing it make it look better in what way? and make the blacks better on slcd?
[Nexus S Accessories] BumbleG:
I'm expecting a Phantom Skinz screen protector I got for about $5 in the next few days, but after doing some direct comparisons with my old Vibrant with the screen protector on, I don't know if I'll actually use the screen protector. In a side by side comparison the Nexus w/o the screen protector is noticeably brighter on the same settings. I took the protector off of my Vibrant and they ended up being about the same brightness. In terms of picture quality the screen protector wasn't all that bad, considering it wasn't too noticeable, unlike the 'Invisible' Shield.

Since I'm a skeptic/paranoid about scratches, I'll do a test run with the protector to see how much it gets scratched over the next while, and figure out if I want to keep it.
[Nexus S Accessories] tito_mafia:
NEVER had one :D
[Nexus S Accessories] LuffyPSP:
i almost dropped my nexus just now! but still, i'm taking my chances. haha~
[Nexus S Accessories] mELIANTE:
Don't remember of ever using a screen protector on my phones. Even my Nokia 5800 (resistive screen) didn't get one. No visible scratches at all in any of them... But I'm really careful with my mobiles :)
[Nexus S Accessories] willverduzco:
+1 for that. Same here. I just use my old Nexus One sleeve.
[Nexus S Accessories] snowmanwithahat:
Yeh, good choice.

I haven't used a single screen protector or case... ran my Nexus S and Epic 4g completely naked. I hate the feel of a screen protector
[Nexus S Accessories] Jabaculemos:
I used a screen protector for a few weeks but then removed it, the screen is a lot better without!

I've had my phone for about a year and I don't see any scratches, what bothers me the most the smudge on the screen, it seems to be there all the time even though I clean it every once in a while. Guess I have greasy hands, I don't know...
[Nexus S Accessories] shank1020:
Likewise. Had a ZAGG invisible shield on mine, looked SO much better when I took it off :)
[Nexus S Accessories] mercado79:
I'd never thought to try this and did so today. Screen protector looks perfectly now. Thanks!

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I completely understand what you guys are saying, but... at least for now I'll be rockin a screen protector. I too baby my phones and hate using cases and/or screen protectors. But... when you least expect it, something's bound to happen.

Case in point, I had my Evo for about six months or so. Naked. Loved it (love the feel of the Nexus way better). One day, I was going through security at the airport and realized at the last second I'd forgotten to take my keys out of my pocket. Just as the small accessories tray was about to go through the metal detector with my phone in it, I tossed my keys in without thinking.

I did NOT expect it to be so bad, but the screen ended up getting no less than four scratches on it. Looked awful. And not just faint scratches, but the kind that make the screen look like there's a weird prism/halo to it. Drove me nuts.

Well, drove me right in to the arms of my Nexus S. Which, as I said, I'm babying. For now.
[Nexus S Accessories] Emama:
My phone arrived yesterday but the screen protector arrived today..

I don't want to touch my phone last night LOL
[Nexus S Accessories] Shark_On_Land:
One small scratch you can only see in sunlight and with screen off.
[Nexus S Accessories] MaximeRoy77:
8 months use + kids use it daily = no screen protector and no scratches so far.
[Nexus S Accessories] 309041291a:
Not using one at all. Not a single scratch. This screen is child proof I swear :-P
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gh0stshell:
These steps worked for me everytime when pushing a new boot animation

**Stay booted into your ROM, no need to boot into RECOVERY**

Make sure dev is enabled under Settings>Applications

Then run SuperOneClickv1.6.5-ShortFuse

Download the Android SDK and place on your C:\

Rename folder to Android

1. Copy the NEW bootanimation.zip of your choice in SDK Folder

2. Open up CMD

3. cd C:\AndroidSDK\tools (or were ever you SDK files are, in v10 tools is called platform-tools)

4. adb remount

The filesystem is mounted read only. You need to mount it read/write.

5. adb shell mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system

6. adb push bootanimation.zip /system/media/bootanimation.zip

7. adb push bootanimation.zip /data/local/bootanimation.zip

To return to read only,

8. adb shell mount -o remount,ro -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system

9. Reboot and there you go (adb reboot)

Steps above found @ http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-736412.html

I pushed the new honeycomb boot animation attached to this post, it came from the Phoenix Ultimate ROM, im lovin it!

+++++NEW+++++

CHANGING AT&T BOOT LOGO!!!! (INITIAL STATIC SCREEN)

This replaces the AT&T boot logo static that is displayed with a customized logo.

Download the attachment file logo_ATNT.jpg This is what your AT&T boot logo is gonna be.. You can edit this, add your own.. But make sure that the name stays the same.

Using ADB tools from PC,

1. Put your logo_ATNT.jpg in the folder where adb.exe exists.

2. In command prompt, adb devices to make sure your phone is connected.

3. adb push logo_ATNT.jpg /mnt/.lfs

4. adb reboot

AND THAT'S IT!! You'll now have your own customized AT&T logo on your phone!!!

Credit to Darky from post @ http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11137470&postcount=1
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattiadj:
The question is simple, until HTC relases stable version of gigerbeard for dhd,is better to have modded Froyo Rom or one of latest gingerbeard Rom??

About performance and battery life what is the best choice?

Sent from future
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mesut19:
I tought Google said that Gingerbread had a better interpretation of the battery thing so it should have a better battery life. Also they have a better task manager so you can 'kill' apps safely not damaging your phone.

So I think Gingerbread should be better in theory :>
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattiadj:
In theory of the course :-) but now?

Now I'm running rom based on desire s. It's wonderful but has echo problem!!! Damn!

Sent from future
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superstick1:
As far as I understand, we do not have a "proper" Kernel for Gingerbread ROM until its leaked. So i guess at the moment, in the context of battery life, Froyo should be better.
[HTC Inspire 4G] BillTheCat:
I have the stock 8G card in my Inspire, but want a 16G card so I can move apps (and other data) over. Is there any real difference from one 'class' of card to the other? what would you guys recommend?
[HTC Inspire 4G] klquicksall:
Get the san disk 16gb class 10. It will be really fast with transfers.
[HTC Inspire 4G] BillTheCat:
I read that some cards were more accurate with their transfer claims than others. Can't remember the brand of card but one was recommended as being closer to the spec than the others. Also remember reading something somewhere that suggested a Class 10 card wasn't desirable and not necessarily faster because of how it worked, and that a Class 6 would do better for read/write and battery life. Your thoughts?
[HTC Inspire 4G] aeneas3:
not really sure if I would spend the extra cash on a class 10 16b over a slower card for use in a phone. class 10 are superior for video, especially hd, like with a digital camera.

now, if the price is not much more I would go for class 10 but that is because I have found that once you replace your device, you may use your old card in a new device that now needs a faster card.

from sd association:

Class 2 : H.264 video recording, MPEG-4, MPEG-2 video recording

Class 4: MEPG-2 (HDTV) video recording, DSC consecutive shooting

Class 6: Mega-pixel DSC consecutive shooting, professional video camera

Class 10: Full HD video recording, HD still consecutive shooting

I do not agree with all of those uses but class 6 should be fine for your phone, even class 4 may be. plenty of info on the web if you want to check it out more. Again, if price is not an issue or the price difference is minimal go for a faster card. also, do not buy from ebay as there are a ton of fake cards on the site.

edit:

this was a good deal. just expired, but a similar one may surface :0

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=1019384&t=2794331
[HTC Inspire 4G] BillTheCat:
The problem with these ratings is that they're intended for use in recording devices, and don't discuss suitability for use in a device such as a PDA where you'll be running programs off of the card.

The information I've seen on the 'net is sketchy, which is why I'm asking here.

Two things to answer:

1) What class is suitable for running programs from the card?

2) What brand/model of card comes closest to advertised rating?
[HTC Inspire 4G] mudknot2005:
It really depends on a number of things, how much information is being used at one time for a certain app, since all apps are different. So you can't really say, but if you want to make sure then go with a class 10. A class 6 should be fine for most of the apps on android though.

As for which brand of card comes closest to advertised. Each Sd card is different just like every processor is different. You can get a Kingston 8gig class 4 that only transfers at 3mb/s or one that transfers at 4.2 mb/s. Generally a good standard to go by is (cheap/fast/reliable) you can only pick two.

The only way you are going to know the actual speed of the card is to bench test it. For my money though I would probably go with kingston or pny.
[HTC Inspire 4G] capman231:
The stock card is a Sandisk class 4 and based on that I would say that a class 4 would be fine, but a higher class shouldn't hurt.

capman231
[HTC Inspire 4G] sugardaddy1979:
My stock card is a samsung class 2..... And it is forever unexpectedly unmounting.......
[HTC Inspire 4G] harlenm:
Just ordered a Kingston 16gig class 4 for $30 shipped on amazon.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Little_Ant:
i just bought a 2GB PNY from BestBuy for $7. Couldn't be happier!
[HTC Inspire 4G] anit77:
It really depends on what you plan on doing with the card/phone. If you are just going to use it for apps and smaller data files the class 4 or 6 will be fine. For me I use the phone for work and media. I stream music via bluetooth in my car and wired to my boat while also storing larger pdfs for work, like my companies catalog. Not to mention if I ever want to take any 720p vids.

I have a 16gb class 6 that has outlived its usefulness as Android stores more data on it than my previous windows phone, so I'm deleting more & more music to make room. I just purchased a Wintec 32gb class 10. I will test the speed with the card in the phone mounted to my computer via usb and if the speeds aren't there I have no problem putting it in a card reader to transfer what I need. I can easily throw 18gb of 192bit mp3s on it, more if I keep some of the songs as flac. I feel the time saved transferring justifies the $76 price.

If you go with a larger card just remember to unmount it before disconnecting and you'll save yourself a lot of headaches. ;)
[HTC Inspire 4G] Chad_Petree:
I want a 16 gb card, but which model is the fastest ? i know a class 4 can outperform a class 6 card and so on , a class 4 pny card? a class 4 kingston? or a class 6 trascend? :confused:
[HTC Inspire 4G] mudknot2005:
You have it backwards ;) a class six is supposed to out perform a class four and a class ten is supposed to out perform a class six.

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[HTC Inspire 4G] Chad_Petree:
apparently the brands lie when they say what type of cards they're selling, think of it like a 5 mp camera outperforming an 8 mp camera i CAN happen
[HTC Inspire 4G] mudknot2005:
I'm not saying it can't, I have a 8 mega pixel sony cybershot that has a carl ziess lens and its pictures are way clearer then my 14 mega pixel cannon point and shoot, but like I said before you have to bench test it before you know its true potential. One kingston 16gig class 10 is not going to preform the same as another kingston 16gig class 10. It is possible to have a class 6 out perform a class 10, but in general the higher the class the faster the transfer rates.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Chad_Petree:
should i get the trascend class 6 then? the thing is i dont anything about that brand, are they any good? :confused:
[HTC Inspire 4G] mudknot2005:
Personally I am not sure I tend to stick with pny and kingston. What I would recommend is looking on amazon or another place that has reviews usually a good reviewer will post a bench test with transfer rates.
[HTC Inspire 4G] anit77:
I have been using this Adata 16gb cl6 for over a year and a half. The only problems I've had with it are occasional corrupting, but that is completely attributable to my lack of unmounting the card before disconnect. I haven't had a single issue since I started unmounting.

I would also recommend their cl10 card which can be found here.

I wish Adata made a 32gb version. I will report my results on the Wintec once I receive it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] sn707:
I used a class 4 16gb SanDisk for a long time and it always was fine. I am a sucker for room though, and bought a Lexar 32GB Class 10 and I really couldnt be happier.
[HTC Inspire 4G] scottypimpin636:
I just researched this the other day and can't find the link for the life of me..

Basically from what I read the class 2 and class 4 cards have a faster read than the class 6 and 10's. It has to do with some initializing the 6 and 10's do which is an extra step compared to the 2 and 4's.

For a digital camera the class 6's and 10's are better but for phones a class 4 is ideal. If I can find that darn link i'll post it.

I have an 8gb class 6 transend in my N1 atm and when I get my Inspire in tomorrow i'm going to test the class 4 against the class 6 to see which one has a higher read speed.
[HTC Inspire 4G] mudknot2005:
The classes have nothing to do with the read speed, only the write speed. It all depends on the card and the device. Different cards have different read speeds, a class 2 can have the same read as a class 10 or even faster, once again it all depends on the card.

Now the class is supposed to be a "minimum" write speed.

For example

Take a 16gig class ten SD card. The write speed is 10.5mb/s and read is 15mb/s

Now take a 8gig class four HCSD card with 130x and you may have 11mb/s with around 9mb/s sustained write speed, and 18mb/s read speed.

It is all relative to the card and the device it is being used on.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sdhc-memory-card,2143.html
[HTC Inspire 4G] scottypimpin636:
Ah, learn something new every day!!

Thanks for the link!
[HTC Inspire 4G] anit77:
Just got the Wintec 32gb cl10 card.

Testing the blank card in the phone with SD Tools I'm getting 13.8 write & 19.9 read. I've done 5 consecutive tests, highest/lowest; 14.0/13.7 write & 20.1/19.1 read.

I'll do some transfers tests when I get home and report back.

**Edit** Just ran Antutu 13.1 write 15.7 read. One run.

**Edit2** Just finished a H2testw in my card reader:

Test finished without errors.

You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.

Writing speed: 14.2 MByte/s

Reading speed: 16.4 MByte/s

H2testw v1.4
[HTC Inspire 4G] anit77:
After the last test in the card reader I tried it with the card in the phone and this is where things fell apart. I was getting 5mb/s and stopped the test. I activated write back caching and turned off buffer flushing, this only got me to 5.75mb/s.

The card is fully capable of running at above rated speeds both within the phone and in a reader but when the phone is used as the reader the speed drops off by almost two thirds.

I wonder if this is a hardware issue with the phone or a driver issue. What do you guys think?
[HTC Inspire 4G] scottypimpin636:
I get my Inspire today but as far as my N1 goes, i've never had good write performance when the sd card is mounted in the phone. If i'm ever transferring a lot of data i'll put the sd card in a usb adapter.

I've been very happy with my Transcend 8GB Class 6. Just ran SD Tools from the market and this card has a 9.5mb write / 20.3mb read.. Not bad for a class 6 eh
[HTC Inspire 4G] kimtyson:
So, the USB conncetion is the bottleneck, right? Have you tried different USB ports? Good work you're doing by the way. Thanks for sharing.
[HTC Inspire 4G] anit77:
I don't think it's a USB issue, I really think it's a driver issue. I have been doing a lot of reading on this topic and it appears to be a cross platform problem. Meaning people are seeing reduced speeds with many different handsets, some MUCH MUCH worse than what I'm getting. Some people in the CM7 threads are getting 1mb/s or less!!! :eek:

There are many reports that it's a kernel based issue but there is barely no improvement with it connected in Recovery and that would rule out the kernel. So there's a hardware limiting factor (but would there be a common design flaw across multiple manufacturers?) or it is the driver.

I have not had a chance to try another port yet. Took the wife out for sushi last night and got home a little buzzed. I will try other ports when I get home. I will also uninstall the USB storage driver then disconnect & reconnect just to rule that out. I'd also like to get a Dev's take on this.

Glad to help ;)