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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] TonyCubed:
He hasn't given a detailed explatation of what he believes the problem is and how he thinks he can overcome it. The fact it's taken a team of people (DFT) with people like Cotulla time to port NoDo, Cotulla creating a new bootloader for Android and WP7 shows that this is far from a simple task of disabling some SPL checks to force the RUU updater to upload a incompatible bootloader to the HD2 is hysterical.

Firstly, he removes a custom bootloader which makes it possible to boot WP7 in the first place. Secondly, he starts disabling random SPL checks to force it to write the flash image. Then thirdly, he admits that he nearly bricked his phone and wants other people to provide him one so he can risk bricking theirs.

It's not about lack of tools, it's about how Microsoft have designed these ROMs to only flash to the official devices, DFT/Cotulla need to work to port the HD7 ROM (The HD7 being the closest relative to the HD2) safely, and it's all taken time. If it was so easy for one person to do what this guy above me tried to do then everyone would be doing it.

The fact he has little knowledge of what needs to be done shows that it's outside his capability. I'm not being an arse, I know people want NoDo right now, because I do, and if he was a independant developer who can outline what the problem is and how he thinks he can get around it, then I'm all for it. But as this person said with his first post, he nearly bricked his phone doing so.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] GTZ:
Update Logs

has anyone else been looking at the update logs from the failed updates on the phone? if you put magldr in usb mode you can see the update logs from the computer.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] warriorvibhu:
Guys I am done arguing .. With Tonycubed. everyone who thinks we should try is welcome .. And Tony removing magldr is not the only thing I have done.. I hv tried to flash a nodo by cooking and replacing part 4.bin with a nodo os..which went ok 99% but in the end I m getting an error.. Ahh and yes I almost bricked my phone when working with Android too but then I can say proudly I gave out one of the most stable fast and great on battery ROM u can check my signature .. So in short I m working with magldr too.. To see and try whatever works out.. I prefer not to sit quietly and I never claimed I know more than DFT .. with all due respect to all devs/ noobs ..i just said I am working on it which u then made out an issue.. Did u ask cotulla how many phones he almost bricked .. I never told what I was doing so I never forced u to brick ur phone .. So peace ..

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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] merkcity:
probably the longest wait ever for a rom update but be patient im sure it'll be worth it
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] zephr5:
I think its a stupid update we are all waiting on!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] dazza9075:
hmm seems a bit metal to do all that, im still hedging my bets on it being something fairly simple like....when you attempt to update the phone either by zune or the tool at the very moment it fails its recognised as a LEO device.

the updater will obvously have checks in place to make sure it knows what phone its updating and our device shouting that its a LEO isnt going to help!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] lhernana2j:
Hmm by the time this comes out I will have a full upgrade and ready for the next WP 7 phone from Tmous.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hjhjhj:
People can we expend a little effort to either Google or search the threads for answers BEFORE re-posting this inane basic question over and over and over and over and over again!!!!!! I don't care if you are a noob...there is such a thing as common sense people. How have you lived all your life without researching something before asking.

Is it so difficult to use a search engine whether here or Google or Yahoo or whatever?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Andrew Symington:
Nodo is a good step but would still like to see usb sync with office products even if it goes through zune , wish I could write script to make it so ... Nodo will get here when it does !
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] warriorvibhu:
i agree the only thing that interests me is the copy - paste feature otherwise its the mango update that's going to make some difference with Microsoft providing API for third party apps to access camera so we can have LAYAR and SKYPE etc. Also that will have multitasking :) drooling :-)

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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] ^^rac:
Battery life

Im hoping for better battery life! Heheheh :p
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] mortonight1:
You are righ. I almost bricked my phoe plenty of times too, i managed to flash the nodo rom and boot it to the setup screen but the immediate issues are the touch screen not working and the hardware keys are are not mapped correctly tried different drivers but gets stuck at boot screen with them, could do some more tests but only have access to modify the drivers in imfs, if any one has any way to acces evething in the os partition please share.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hyellow:
it's good to see that people are trying. Those who are trying, understand the risks involved when doing such things. Those who are affraid of ending up with a brick will never ever try and do such thing unless it is officialy released. I admire the one who is giving it a shot.

I have only one HD2 and I would give it a try myself, if only I could cook a Nodo ROM.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] merkcity:
HD2 running WP7: hey whats up man hows it going

HD2 running android: great the devs are doing an awesome job on the android builds there very close to getting android 2.3 with sense working 100%

HD2 running WP7: That's great i've just gotten some great news myself

HD2 running android: O yeah whats that?

HD2 running WP7: DFT got NoDo working

HD2 running android: Wow thats great can i see it

HD2 running WP7: Sad Face
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] shorteh:
LMAO! It's funny because it's true, although with the amount of time this release is taking, could mean they are working on the battery issues, and multi-tasking?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rwholden:
Maybe they are working on turning it into a flying spaceship too :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] shorteh:
a boy can dream can't he? I'm sure a release is in the near future :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hjhjhj:
Why don't you just stick with your Android. I don't see you helping the situation any by assisting DFT to get NoDo's port de-bugged!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] merkcity:
Dont be a **** all day long people are on here crying about how long its taking and giving there stupid thoughts on whats going on with the update without knowing any facts , how do you know they need help with debugging???? yeah thats what i thought, so dont bash on me because im trying to bring a lil humor to this post im running wp7 on my hd2 and im happily waiting for a nodo update thats how im helping the situation by being patient thank you very much.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] warriorvibhu:
easy there dude.. I m against no one but please understand .. This is a lovely forum .. Lets maintain some decorum and use good language please lets not make it look like a porn forum .. :(

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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] warriorvibhu:
he he .. Succeeding is not an issue..jailbreaking it is one .. :) And yes I have secret that will always prevent my phone from bricking ;) lol so u can encourage me .. :)

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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Starfury:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, this thread needs to be closed. Its serving no purpose and has nearly turned into a full on flamefest a number of times.

Mods, please, do the right thing...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] warriorvibhu:
Let it remain here my friend..its kind of general thread in development forum.. provides us some lols and respite ..
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Gustopher:
Sorry, but starfury is absolutely spot on - this is an utterly pointless thread largely full of drivel and flame bait. If aliens were to land on earth today and come across this thread they could be excused for thinking the earth was devoid of intelligent life.

warriorvibhu, I take your point about lols and respite, but you could achieve much the same effect with a lobotomy or heavy-to-industrial-strength glue sniffing.

Mods, please...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] dazza9075:
well then move it to a general forum, no need to close it,
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] radiance26:
Please stop crying about closing this thread.

Mods are big boys, if they think it's better to close this thread, they would do it.

Otherwise let them talk.

Bande de râleurs.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] PedrooNL:
You mean you can get NODO working, but no jailbreak yet?

If that's so you understand that we very much would like to try Nodo on our HD2 without jailbraik.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] white-energy:
Well, if anything goes to trash or anything gets closed then there's no freedom of speech and i'm sure everyone is against that.. so let everyone speak (type) whatever they want with respecting each others..

to all dickheads stay away from this topic.. all the flamings starts because of you.. no offense.

:)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Neo XL:
What i see is, that all people, who have used the old wm 6.5, are disappointed, that so less is happening in WP7. The closed system is stable, but after a short time all is seen and tested, nothing to individualize (except to play a little with colors and move the tiles). I feel the same and think in the last days more about, to go back to wm6.5, because there is much more chance to create your own style and to personalize the device.

The only thing...it´s a dying system. At first we read, that both systems will run parallel, but now wm 6.5 will die. No more new programs and games for this system. Maybe, it was old... but it was the best system for hobby creators, skinners and i cry some tears that it is at end. At this time i wait for really little changes in WP7, that i used normally in wm 6.5, and it´s boring, to see the same ev´ry day. Android is no alternative, because i´m wm fan. But to wait and see only little stones rolling and no rocks...it´s sad. And the coming Mango is also far away.

I thought long about changing to HD7 or Samsung Omnia 7, the last i had for a few days. But i can´t give up my HD2, to have the chance to change the system, like i want. With HD7 i have no choice to go back for a while.

For this time i will wait...but don´t know, how long.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] fcbarca17:
Haha I get you bro

But that sounded like a diary entry.

Android ftw!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Neo XL:
You,re right ;) This is my actual Feeling, after a period using WP7. But this time: No Android.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] THUDUK:
I agree , what I really want is wm6.5 with the wp7 marketplace or even better the android market

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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] amno1970:
Android

I feel the same. I ended up setting up a dual-boot HD2 and I currently only use Android (Rafdroid build is awesome). It's the perfect mix of stability and personalization. I always have been, and currently I am a fan of Windows in desktops and servers. But for smartphones, in this moment... Android is better.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] pharmeceutikle:
Android is kicking windows in the nuts!

I am one of the biggest windows fanboy there is. Anything and everything windows. I got my HD2 actually for flashing wp7. Then I thought I might as well make it a dual boot with android. I even made my wp7 partition considerably larger than my android side in anticipation that I'm gonna be using wp7 the majority of the time. Unfortunately, it hasn't been the case. Wp7 is virtually at a stand still. I'm using android 80% percent of the time. Every now and then I check here to see if anything is going on for wp7. Every blue moon we get something exciting that makes me boot into my wp7. Then the excitement lasts about a few hours and then I get bored with my wp7 as there was not really much to do with it. I then shut it off and then boot into android. C'mon Windows! Get it in gear!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] skycamefalling:
I was a big fan of WM, especially 6.5.x, and used it on my phones for years.

Last autumn I made the transition to WindowsPhone7 and, despite the fact that I sometimes reach the limits of this OS, I really like it.

I've still kept my HD2 with WinMo to have something to play around with.

In the meantime I bought a used Galaxy S and tried different ROMs and customisations. But no matter what I do and what I try, Android stays ugly, complicated and unhandy.

If I want to have a OS that gives me every freedom and makes anything possible, then I'd still go for WM6.5.x with Sense.

If I want to have a OS that is running great without much effort, I'd go for WP7.

But there is no reason to go for Android because it's nothing more than a WM6.5 with a worse interface.

I mean, I wanted to do my girlfriend a favour and flashed Android onto her HD2. After one week she came back to me and asked me to install WM6.5.3 again because no Android shell can beat the usability of Sense (with CHT) on WM.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] EgoMaximus:
So is nodo coming anytime soon for HD2?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] iba21:
guyz, a question

NoDo, will be unlock by reg modding in future custom roms?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] heldeeb:
After all this sullen period do you think guys it is over and Microsoft has done with us this time and closed all doors for us and it is an era of strong Jails unbreakable. Or it is just a frustration.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] 2new:
Have been waiting to long now...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] huismeester:
I think it is frustration Sir:D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] dazza9075:
WM is a beast of an OS, i use my old touch HD for WM at the mo but i would pay for someone to work out how to dual boot WM 6.5 and WP7

With those two OSs there is nothing i cant do :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Dad57:
The DFT release will have NOTDO name ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rlydiard:
It seems rather odd that while Microsoft is still having trouble with updates on some official Windows Phone 7 models, we are complaining that DFT is slow with the NoDo update for the HD2 which is not an official WP7. It is even more odd that we are upset considering that everyone in DFT and Cotulla himself volunteer their time, and also work on software for other phone models.

If DFT and Cotulla were on our payroll we would have a reason to complain, but they are doing this for us free of charge. Some of us should rethink our positions and realize how much we owe to DFT and Cotulla for the work that they have already accomplished.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Dad57:
it was only a little bit humour, I'm ok with the fact that without cotulla and the DFT team nothing concerning WP7 and the HD2 were possible

Thx to them
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Giganten79:
I'm loving this.Dft rules! Hd2 is the greatest :-;-)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] orangekid:
All your NoDo are belong to me
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] warriorvibhu:
yeah and ur hd2 is mine :-) lol

Back to news I think next magldr will allow us to run NoDo safely..not 1.13..well its my guess coz I was working on trying to make NoDo work and the sort of issues I am facing I strongly feel that a new Magldr will be out first then NoDo, may be we will get a taste of Mango directly ..

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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Rusty-DC:
NODO comes with new MAGLDR 1.14 ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] warriorvibhu:
any sources for this post coz I mentioned in mine that it was a guess/ feeling in me .. But do u have confirmed resources .. ?

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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Rusty-DC:
in this original DFT video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH_x22NY6Yk&feature=player_embedded check version of MAGLDR, its 1.14 ...different between 1.13 and 1.14 is in numbers of option. 1.13 have 11 or 12 and 1.14 have 14. All this is in first few seconds in this video. Build version 1.14 is from 19.february.

sorry for bad english, i hope you understand my theory.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] matthewharmon102:
this was also mentioned on the twitter. the reason for the delay in the WP7 update is the new magldr build. im always in favour of software being delayed if it means less bugs/greater performance/greater reliability which i guess is what they are doing now.

http://twitter.com/#!/CotullaCode
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Hagenlund:
I sure hope magldr 1.4 will let me charge with the phone off. That feature is just as important as nodo, if not more so.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] win98:
I hope battery live will be better too...

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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] huismeester:
I hope I'm wrong but

I think wp7 developing for hd2 is ad the and
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] :
What makes you say that? I think it's just beginning. So far all we have had for custom ROMs are just reg tweaks. I think there is still a lot to learn and master.

At least I hope, I'm right.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] ei05035:
And I personally like to think that flashing from SD will be an option... Will be waiting patiently :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hjhjhj:
Nothing new here...same tweet from 3 weeks ago.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] win98:
yes i agree with that. This thread will be totaly spammed until we have the nodo update. ...

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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] colossus_r:
Yes i believe that to...

In my country you can get from vodafone (no contracts just the device) an HTC Trophy for 199euros.

I took one of them and now running native WP7 os with NoDo and have my HD2 running Android...

Or i will sell it for arrount 200 euros..maybe
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] NeO_CooL:
They already said they want to release magldr 1.14 first to solve some problems not related to wp7... so just wait.

Dont stress... they will get it.

Yet... get your keys while you can.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] MeteorFlare:
this wait is killing me from inside.

like parasites sucking my blood from within.

so near to the skin.. yet so deep in..

when does it come? before HTC EVO 3D ? after the Mayan apocalypse?

only time will tell.. but, this time.. time will never heal..
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] iba21:
if you want a nodo version today, buy an hd7 :D

this porting is free, is cool, and comes slowly, so, be patient
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] vladleo:
chill

And maybe get a life:)...it is not a very big update...a big update will be with bluetooth and usb storage:D...dft will realease it when it's running stable and bug free like always...but i must say i am impressed with the progress wp7 with our phone...it's impressive...i read somewhere it's the only non-wp7 phone that runs it almost perfectly and out-of-the-box....thx DFT...and take your time;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] TheATHEiST:
Correction..

Its the only non-wp7 phone that runs wp7, period!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] iba21:
hd7, samsung omnia 7, htc mozart, ecc ecc, all has HD2 SoC, so, driver is the same :D

you can't upload windows phone 7 on DHD, it has second generation snapdragon SoC, so ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] NYCspeedSurfer:
Will NoDo or Other Updates Fix Video Output to Bluetooth Headset?

Pardon the question, for I have searched and have found very little concerning the issue of WP7 not supporting Bluetooth Audio while playing video (regardless of source; streaming video, onboard movies, youtube, netflix, video podcasts). Does anyone know of anyone, M$ or developer, who is looking into correcting this shortcoming? I watch a lot of video on my phone and I hate having to give up my Plantronics 903 Backbeat BT Headset for some wired headphones when switching from music to videos. Whether the video-BT audio issue a is a known bug or a designed limitation, I cannot say -- I'd just like to see a fix.

Thoughts or Rants, anyone?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] terchoo:
Mango is coming...!

Hi Guys now MANGO wp7 version is releasing when we are able to use NoDo for our HTC HD2 :(

if any one is already using then please give me link for download.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] warriorvibhu:
Ask Bepe and Cotulla .. And The DFT They have the working nodo as well as mango link .. :)

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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] welki1979:
Err... NO.

There is little to no point asking DFT. As stated MANY, MANY, MANY times previously in this thread - they will release it when THEY are ready and not before.

From the looks of the video that was released previously they are currently working on NoDo, Mango and a new MAGLDR.

It seems that there will be very little progression with WP7 on HD2 until they release their new version of MAGLDR according to the twitter threads.

People just can't seem to grasp the fact that DFT are not being paid to do this work and are providing their services to us FREE OF CHARGE. Be patient people, there's nothing major in the updates anyway.

Lets face it, it would be great if they do release it but it would be better if someone else would work out how to cook roms and replace elements like the stock camera (wit SHCamera for example) and iron out the bugs. DFT have got the OS working for us but at this stage I'm guessing they won't be looking at elements like camera focus etc...just concentrating on getting the features of the OS working.

You simply can't expect DFT to do ALL the work, they provide us with a functional base to work from.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] NEDSTER1972:
Can the mods please stop this thread.

As numpty's keep adding to it &putting it back to the top of the thread list.

If something is released there will be a new thread saying new nodo realse or magldr release etc.

This thread is really starting to do my head in.

Please mod just suspend this thread.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] radiance26:
This is the problem, DFT won't deliver tools to cook rom and modify ourself important files.

Anyway people on DFT website don't talk anymore about nodo or other version. So we must just be patient for some fresh news.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] wardh:
OMG just stop looking at it if it bothers you that much. Enough with all mod wannabes!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] JonnieLasVegas:
LMAO! Just what I was thinking!