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[General Accessories] spark001uk:
Hi, just looking at your picture. I can see it is back to front physically also, so that when you fold the fpc,the display will be facing the pcb! So have we no possibility to replace this display other than buying the texas dev kit and swapping out? Im reluctant (as are others) to pay 50 for a display which ive also got to remove and resolder without breaking any contacts! And trust me ive hand soldered windowed fpc oleds before, one slip and its trash!!
[General Accessories] spark001uk:
I'm assuming we've hit a dead end here then regarding sourcing the oled?
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
I hope not. I sent an email at the first of this week to conics.com that list the display on their site, but they haven't replied yet.
[General Accessories] spark001uk:
I found the P13707 display on the Scitec Instruments website, will email them shortly. It's the red one though, I'm assuming that's the one for the music edition? (I have the non music edition one with the pale blue display). I wonder if it fits mine?

http://www.scitecinstruments.pl/displays/passive_matrix_oleds.php

EDIT: According to the specs the 13707 is 31mm across, whereas mine is only 26.1 (measured it)
[General Accessories] spark001uk:
By the way, if anyone doing this dismantle are struggling with removal of the crown, I discovered an easy way - first, click it out to the adjust position, then with a small pointed implement, GENTLY press down on the metal retainer exactly where arrowed, and the crown will slide straight out! Just like that! ;)
[General Accessories] NoNickMoc:
Come on Sir we wait for your consequence ;)
[General Accessories] spark001uk:
I gave up and bought a sony smartwatch - pretty impressive! I also have a smartwatch2 on preorder.

For anyone interested I'll soon be putting the mbw-150 (now dismantled) on ebay for spares. All in good condition apart from some scratching to the dial face (done while pulling hands), and of course the expired oled (still attached to pcb).
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
Has anyone a broken MBW-150 and is wiling to sell me his wristband? I like my whatch even if the OLED is not working but the wristband is broken. :(

Please send my a PM. Thanks!
[General Accessories] spark001uk:
Just take it down to your local jeweller / market stall or whatever and have them fit a new wristband for you, that's what I did. Its a standard width so anywhere should be able to do it. You may not get one exactly like the original so you may get a slight gap above and below the watchface but hey who cares! ;)
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
I do! ;)
[General Accessories] NoNickMoc:
Everybody give up... I'm sorry to hear this :(

Other tentative?
[General Accessories] irule9000:
sony smartwatch 2 is like 300 bucks. For 95 i got a kreyos meteor http://igg.me/at/kreyos/x/2749354, it now costs 139. (still a really good deal)
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
I tested Sony Ericsson LiveView and it's a piece of crap not even worth the €20 that I paid for it. After this I am not going to try the Sony Smartwatch or Smartwatch2. No chance!

The Kreyos Meteor seems to be the better version of the Pebble. Let's wait and see.

I like analog watches better and the Cookoo is nice but it has even less features than the SE MBW and AFAIK has no Android support yet?!

But why giving up anyway? What about the RGS08096016B001 display from the EKS-LM3S811 Evaluation Board? It seems to work (posting 212, 213 and 215). 40 Euro isn't cheap but I really like my MBW an for me it is worth it.

PS: Really no one here giving up and selling me the old wristband? ;)
[General Accessories] spark001uk:
Don't know where you've seen that price, but I'm paying 120GBP, which is like 186 dollars. ;)
[General Accessories] irule9000:
i havnt really been following it that closely, my bad. That must have been a rumor, Im seeing 229
[General Accessories] NoNickMoc:
Boys please talk about the MBW-150 screen replace!

I would like to do my 200$ watch. I realy liked it when is working.
[General Accessories] NoNickMoc:
Somebody???
[General Accessories] xjaso:
...

bite out of someone and another battery data to them? I replace the batteries in your Sony Ericcson the VH110 and watch Jews normally uz (formerly weakly shining display) translation via Google Translate
[General Accessories] slklite:
Hello guys, I have a MBW-100 whith a dying OLED !!!

Soldering isn't a problem for me, but the problem as I understand is to find a supplier for this OLED display right ?

Is the OLED in the MBW-150 the same for a MBW-100 ?

Thank you for your help ;)
[General Accessories] Product F(RED):
Anyone know the strap size for the MBW-150? I can handle the dead LED, but I love the look of the watch itself. The only thing is my strap ripped, so I need a replacement (rubber).
[General Accessories] akrolik:
I also have a watch MBW-150. Not so long ago, when working screen became dim. I forgot for a while to charge the clock (it was not up to them), but continued to wear them for as long as the screen is not extinguished themselves arrows stopped going. This happened for the second time that the clock got so much so that even stopped going to the arrow, but that (the first time) I was holding them for a long time to charge, and they started to charge and work as before. But now, even very long charging does not help, the screen is off, the arrows do not go. Someone can suggest what might be with them? This is a problem in the battery or the display? I have to say that I do not watch drenched. I live in Russia, wrote a letter to the store thebatterystore.com, but no one answers, they deliver the batteries in Russia?
[General Accessories] leobg:
Check battery charging terminals - they might be oxidized or dirty and charger can't make good contact. Clean them well and see if it starts charging (best would be to measure if charger starts drawing more current when attached to the watch which would be indication of charging). As of battery - it's been years since those watches have been discontinued, chances of finding one are really slim.
[General Accessories] akrolik:
I cleaned the terminals. Contact should be good. Charging indication occurs. The first time when I was not charged the watch (after installation charge), long hours showed no indication, but then went to charge (apparently heavily discharged battery). But now try to charge about 10 hours, there is no indication. I judged the watch many times. Battery showing the normal voltage, but under load how to measure voltage I do not know.

---------- Post added at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:44 PM ----------

Those who write about what does not work display, arrows keep going. But I have the clock stopped completely.
[General Accessories] leobg:
So you can see the battery charging animation on the watch screen? I thought your display is 100% dark (like mine). You can use multimeter to measure the current charger draws from the grid if you want to see precisely what happens.

However since you can see charging animation, but your battery doesn't pick charge, you'd need to replace the battery. Good luck finding one though. Might be time to say farewell to your MBW-150.. :(
[General Accessories] akrolik:
I do not see the animation on the screen of my watch. The screen is completely dark. After removal from the charge, the arrows are still spinning. I thought that the arrows are powered autonomous. But now it seems to me that the clock is completely powered from a single battery. Just for the shooter my watch needs a very small current, in contrast to Bluetooth. And the only store that sells (or sold) battery, to my emails does not answer (probably a battery for a long time is not available.) And the options to replace the favorite watch can not see. All of which is for children
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
With arrows you mean the houre and minute hand? And "they are spinning" means that the watch itself works, right?

Now you charged for several hours and the "arrows spin" again? That means that the battery is still working. Why do you think that you need a new battery?
[General Accessories] akrolik:
Sorry for my english. I meant watch not working at all. No arrows, no bluetooth, no charging. May be problem with charge, may be watch not indicate charge because display not work. How i can test all of this "may be", and find the problem. But i saw last time displey become dimmer and dimmer.
[General Accessories] xjaso:
batery

replace bateri is vh110 bluethot hadset
[General Accessories] akrolik:
Perhaps there is an option to find the battery. Unsolder contacts from an old battery and solder a new one.
[General Accessories] Leraeniesh:
Does anyone know if theres a place to purchase an MBW-150/200 anymore?

The OLED on my 200 has dimmed to the point that it no longer works. A place for replacement OLED screens would also be nice.
[General Accessories] Sys_Rq:
I have the same problem with the screen. Is dead now. Was getting dimmer until it got completely dark. I was trying to search on web for a display replacement but I couldn't find anything. :(
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
Yeah, for as long as this thread has been going on, no one has had any luck finding replacement displays. :mad::crying:

Despite all the bells and whistles on the newer watches, nothing impresses me as much as the "classic" look and feel of my Executive model MBW-150. Until something better comes along with the same look and feel, I'm happy with no display and just the vibrating notifications.
[General Accessories] sandbaky:
:crying:
[General Accessories] leobg:
Same here. Except that i don't bother linking it via Bluetooth anymore. Gosh, I changed 3 phones since last time I was able to see the screen to pair the phone... Been like that for over an year. Or two...

Advantage is I only need to recharge every 3 months or so.
[General Accessories] Sys_Rq:
There is an option. An expensive one, but it is - Martian watches - and for me is even more expensive because I live in UK and if I order it from US, import tax are quite significant.
[General Accessories] leobg:
Hmmm... These Martians actually come very close. They are actually cheaper then the MBW-150 exec (which was $350). What I don't like is the "2-in-1 separated" look and feel. On the MBW hands look like they are on the middle of the watch face (while they actually are not).

But indeed these come very very close! Of course this is all personal taste and opinion.
[General Accessories] CornholioGSM:
simple is cover the display with kapton tape and then unsolder it with hotair station......it is done after 5 seconds
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
I guess no one has ever found replacement displays. I am looking at the Pebble Steel and now the Android Wear watches as replacements and will probably sell my three MBW-150s for parts. Even with no display, they still serve their purpose as a good looking watch and still vibrate for notifications from my phone.
[General Accessories] CZroe:
Don't forget the media playback controls! ;)

My watch band broke and I just can't stand the generics that leave a huge gap. :(
[General Accessories] onyxus:
One option?

Hi,

I found this datasheet...

www[DOT]digikey[DOT]com/product-detail/en/OS096016PP08MW1B10/OS096016PP08MW1B10-ND/1010379 It seems to fit, just not sure how to order it. Has anyone tried this one?

I still would like to fix my watch... somehow...

Regards onyx
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
Has noone read this thread? As I said befor: "What about the RGS08096016B001 display from the EKS-LM3S811 Evaluation Board? It seems to work (posting 212, 213 and 215). About 40 Euro isn't cheap but I really like my MBW an for me it is worth it."

Take a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36610768&postcount=212

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36610933&postcount=213

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36688881&postcount=215

And no, there is no smartwatch out there which looks as good as the MBW-150. ;)

EDIT: Just send OSRAM an email to ask where to get their OLED displays.
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
I did email them about a year ago and they said it was no longer available. I have had an eBay search for the EKS-LM3S811 board for the same time with no hits yet. I still have my three MBW-150 watches but have bought a Gear 2 in the meantime.
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
Yepp! That does not work! Take a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38627369&postcount=234

And if you can find one it will be rather old. OSRAM stopped producing them 2007 (I think).
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
New OLED finally Installed

Hi All,

I have managed to install a replacement OLED in my MBW 150 Music Edition. ;) :victory:
[General Accessories] Product F(RED):
Holy crap, please tell me how and from where you bought the OLED panel? I have the exact same watch.
[General Accessories] fiveseven808:
We need details!!!!!!!!!!
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
I knew this was bound to happen as soon as I drop this info over here heads will turn.. Don't get too excited my fellowmates, the oled panel I've installed in the watch is not a direct purchase..

Just like one Russian mate has already performed this mod. Even this oled panel is from a Texas instruments evaluation board, named evalbot. The Ssd1300t driver oled is used in that board. I had to extract it out from that board and then install it onto the watch. Definitely not an easy job I must say. Windowed fpcs are extremely hard to desolder.. The evalbot board is costly but I was desperate to get my watch to a usable state I wanted a discrete smartwatch and there's nothing other than the mbw. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll try and answer them if I can.. Cheers.
[General Accessories] leobg:
Wonder if you documented the replacement process. I might give it a go, I have two watches, a sport and an exec and both have long ago faded out completely. To be honest, I'm waiting for Moto360 as it seems like the only thing worth using out of all those gimmicky wearables out there. Talking from a style point of view of course - I'm sure everyone with a MBW-150 would agree.
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
No I haven't documented anything in the process.

By Sport edition you mean the music edition right?

Moto360 is alright but still its just like any other non MBW smart watch, has only a display, you can get watch faces and all but still in the end it just does not look so perfect to wear as a watch. It does not have the depth like an MBW does or any other normal watch does for that matter. Still it might be a good watch in the end for everyone else. I'm really waiting to see what SONY's implementation of the Android wear turns out to be.

I'm sure they wont do an MBW revival but who knows. People would love it if they did.

Actually there are more similar looking watches to the MBW range for example, the COGITO classic and the Martian watch. They dont look as good as the MBW does in my opinion though.
[General Accessories] CZroe:
Please tell me that you'll do this for my MBW-150!
[General Accessories] leobg:
Yes sorry - I meant the music edition. I agree with you, though I doubt Sony will come up with anything remotely as good looking as the MBW-150 (exec). I lost faith in them after those "smartwatch" attempts they came up with in the past couple of years.
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
Haha unfortunately no, you might have to do that on your own i'm afraid.;)
[General Accessories] Soukyho:
new OLED display

Hi people

I just bought MWB-150 one week ago. There was leather strap broken and they were completely discharged ... and cost me less then 20EUR. After charging i found that OLED is dead. I can see all in dark ... not shadow but dark. So I check web and found this discussion that help me a lot.

Why I am waisting your time ? Because maybe I found source of those LCDs.

I just send email and get answer ... new LCD have to cost 10 EUR. Shipping time is something like 6 weeks :( so I will let You know as I will get it and as I will see if it works or not.

For eagers you can try this web page:

maritex.com.pl

maybe if You are interested into this LCD, ask them ... maybe they will be faster with order ... because now I get email where they say I will be able to order it as they will have on stock it ....
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
This is great news! Please post a direct link to the LCD or at least the part number you ordered.
[General Accessories] Soukyho:
new OLED display

Hi, as I am new I can´t post links :(

so there is item number

OLED-PM084MB
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
Thanks! Here is the direct link: https://www.maritex.com.pl/en/search?q=OLED-PM084MB

If I'm reading and converting right, they're around $18 each, and are only available in white.
[General Accessories] Product F(RED):
That's not too bad. Soldering's gotta be a b*tch though. Are these the exact model in the watch? As in, will they die again?
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
We'll have to wait for Soukyho to receive and install his. I remember that somebody on this thread got a different one but the display was reversed.
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
That was this one from OSRAM:

http://download.siliconexpert.com/pdfs/2006/12/18/semi_a/isys/osram/ds/00033553_0.pdf

It was reversed and the outer size was a bit bigger. You would have to dremel the watchface. Hope that this one is the right one.
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
Hi All,

I was just looking at the datasheet of the display being talked about here. Unfortunately the oled driver used in this does not match the MBW watch oled driver. This one uses SSD1308TR1 but our watch uses an SSD1300T driver. The pin out is the same but the driver itself is different so, I'm not sure if this would work. :(
[General Accessories] Soukyho:
for any one ... there is a data sheet for OLED I found.

www: souky.cz/oled/OLED-PM084MB.pdf

true ... it looks driver is different, but who knows .. .maybe we will be lucky and it will works :)

I spend a lot of time seeking any OLED we can use, but I found only this (and OSRAM).

I can see only one option now ... try it :)

and I will do it... as I will have that new OLED.

I like my watches, but without display are just good looks watches and I want more :)
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
Hi Please scroll down to Post no. 23 of this post linked below.

http://en.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2244505.html

That OLED display you're talking about will not work for sure. The drivers do not match so will the codes inside the watch firmware. That's about it really. You can test that OLED after purchasing it again if you still want to make sure. I would be extremely happy if it works and I would purchase one too after that but its been proved long back as per that really old post.
[General Accessories] Soukyho:
NEWS

I got answer from glyn.at

they have 6pcs on store. Price of 1 pcs is 3,07EUR shipping over Europe is 13EUR.

MOQ price is 2,21EUR ( 1000pcs order)

it is this display. M00100_VGM096016A0W01

I am waiting for answer. I already order 3pcs .... I let You know as I ll have any news.

souky
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
That's great news. It would be brilliant if the SSD1308TR1 is cross compatible with the SSD1300 in our watch. Hopefully you have all the basic tools for desoldering the existing one and soldering the new one for trial onto the watch board?

I'm still a bit skeptical that it might not work because of the difference in the drivers but lets see. What's the shipping duration of the 3 pcs you ordered and where do you live?
[General Accessories] Soukyho:
I am from Czech republic - Prague

That company is from Austria, I order those LCD at Friday and pay it at monday. Yesterday evening (wednesday) I found paper from UPS in my postbox .... because nobody was at home: I just call theme and they will try delivery it today.

Yes I have some tools for desoldering and soldering and some experience and I am working for big company and there is a few departments that works with electronics components ... and they have really good stuff

my plan is:

i will try to change complete display - with driver

if it will not work I will try remove driver from old LCD and from new LCD and try to swap them ... I know, that will be very difficult ... but nothing is impossible :)
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
The OLED display you're purchasing has the driver inbuilt in it. For example, as shown in the attached photo, the driver is the red encircled bit. It is impossible to replace that bit from the old display to the new display.

Are you sure that you'll be able to desolder that bit and move it from the old display to the new display? :confused:
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
I think he wants to replace the complete cable including the driver IC and not desolder IC from cable. How is the cable connected to the OLED? Is that possible?
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
Nope. Absolutely impossible. The whole thing i.e from the windowed leads to the OLED display is a single strip and there's no way you can do that. The wires inside the flex cable is probably in microns and you can only view the internal structure of the FPC under a microscope with a good level of magnification.

Please look at the attachment below which shows another detailed example. The whole thing is a single entity unfortunately, so if the driver of one is different from the other it might not work with our watch firmware. It might work only if we could modify the watch firmwares I2C interaction codes to use the newer OLED driver whichever it maybe but again limited to the watch's internal circuit. Each OLED driver has different resistance and capacitance requirements in the circuit. MBW has the SMD components in the circuit to run a 1300T driver for example.
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
I cannot see how the cable is connected to the OLED.

I have an LCD-Display where the cable is glued to the LCD. That is the main problem with that display because sometimes you get problems with that connection. Than you have to heat up the display in an oven to max. 70°C (more would damage the LCD). The glue gets softer when it gets warmer. After heating it up you you have to press on the connection and let it cool down to get hard again. After that the display works perfect again. I am pretty sure you could remove the cable from the LCD as long as the glue is warm and soft.

But as I said, I don't know how this OLED is connected. I was not talking about cutting the cable!
[General Accessories] CZroe:
My understanding is that the adhesive is strong enough to tear or damage the hundreds of thread-like connections even when warmed to the limit that the panel can tolerate. Even if you did separate it, the connections are so numerous, tiny, and delicate that you can't get them all connected without the alignment equipment that originally manufactured it.

That's my understanding. There may be some chemical process for manufacturers to rework large panels that fail QA during manufacturing or require refurbishment but it wouldn't apply in scenarios with small low-cost parts where larger quantities and higher yields make more sense to compensate.
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
That's pretty much the point i was trying to make. Like CZroe mentions, the OLED panel is stuck to the flex cable by glue almost something like a silicone sealant when touched. The OLED panel seems to be letting in the many hundreds of micro wire strands from the flex cable and then the OLED itself is a sandwich of many glass layers.

Cyberdyne, Soukyho was not mentioning of any rework on the OLED. Complete removal and reassembly is a completely different thing when it comes to something that's this small.
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
Any Updates?

Hi Soukyho,

Any updates since the last discussion? I believe you must have now received the OLED panel. Have you found any luck with the swap?
[General Accessories] marcimix:
I can not find solution in this topic that how connect bt watch when the screen is dim. Please help me because I forgot.

Never mind I founded