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[General Questions and Answers] lls666:
Hi everyone,

even though I have been following the forum for a while (since getting my first android a few weeks ago), i haven't ever posted before and the forum doesn't let me post in the relevant thread

which is: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=696845&page=12 so please excuse my new thread which seems out of place...

here the q/a from the thread

1) Are you rooted yet?

no. (have upgraded my milestone to the official froyo update)

2) Where'd you buy the phone from?

turkey (not locked)

3) Are you on the original ROM you bought it with?

it was eclair. now it runs the official froyo

4) What do you see under settings > about phone > Firmware configuration version?

gas_asia_usams1fryottr_p005

so it is clear from the firmware version that it is a TR version.

according to http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone I could use euro retail (should work b/c 900/2100 bands in both versions)

BUT I want to have a Nandroid backup of the TR version, which I can put back on the phone in case anything goes wrong and I need to send the phone for repairs.

I tried to use OpenRecovery but it doesn't install w/o flashing the phone first (needs the Vulnerable Recovery I assume) and by the time I flash the phone with another sbf, the repair lab will be able to tell that I was playing around with the phone...

so

1. is there a way to extract the sbf from the phone itself somehow?

2. make a Nandroid backup w/o flashing the phone first?

3. change the firmware name in a way that the repair center won't see it?

@the admins: in case this thread is misplaced, please move it to the right section and excuse my noobieness in this great forum :)

and thanks everyone for their help/advice :)
[Captivate General] bobbi1972jo:
I have a samsung captivate. The previous owner has removed gtalk. Anyone know how to get it back. I have searched everywhere including the market... please help..
[Captivate General] tupirujp:
Do a search on these forum. But on apps the last option on the forum u will find it there download it and open it whit any file explorer
[Captivate General] bobbi1972jo:
Okay .. will try... thanks !
[Captivate General] tupirujp:
Yo open it trhuht astro explorer , not whit. CWM
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Here you go. flash with CWM.

Thread closed
[Captivate General] bobbi1972jo:
Worked! Thanks a million!
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
I'm on Cappy #3. And now my speaker doesn't work.

I'm going to argue a lemon and see if ATT can't let me have a different phone.

I was looking at the Atrix but- has anyone used both the Captivate and Atrix? Why would I chose the Atrix? I'm using Serendipity ROM, it's great, fast...

I don't really use GPS much (mainly because it sucks- but also because I just don't use it). So overall I'm happy, I'm just tired of the Captivate hardware issues.

What scares me about the Atrix is the locked bootloader. If it works out of the box, great, but you sure do limit support with a locked bootloader. But maybe Motorola actually updates it and there's not a need for custom ROMs?

My other options, were perhaps waiting for the SGS II (or something else). It's still Samsung, but I have a feeling, just like the Captivate, the draw of the specs and beautiful screen might be too hard to resist.

June iPhone 5 launch isn't too far away, either. But the problem with both of these, is I don't know if ATT will let me get a brand new-just-released device, you know?

I also considered getting the iPhone 4 and just living with the Apple nonsense world until this summer- and selling it (iPhone fanboys pay crazy money for those devices, I could flip it easily).

But even with the retina display, I don't know if I could live with an LCD display. ???????

Ideas?
[Atrix 4G General] charliex2:
I've got the vibrant, the captivate and just picked up the atrix last week.

Only thing that really bothers me is the screen, the colours are so much less vibrant, its not a deal killer but i don't like the washed out look.

the camera app on the atrix is kinda odd too, i prefer the galaxy one, but you get used to it, its slow to focus and no spot focus.

i miss the quiet mode alarm clock of the captivate too. i liked being able to access the wifi off on and by dragging down at the top, the motoblur is initially annoying.

took me a little while to get used to the power button placement, i dig the fingerprint reader. the usb connection is in an annoying location (off to the side) and at least you get and hdmi cable with it.

its a lot more fluid speedwise, dont get the lag i was used to with the galaxy.
[Atrix 4G General] robstunner:
Screen vs. Screen, captivate kills it. The motion blur is so noticeable on the atrix its almost a slap in the face.
[Atrix 4G General] Shrew:
The screens between the captivate and atrix are completely different and appeal to different people. Yes the captivate is much more vivid and bright but the atrix's qHD display is much more accurate and crisp and the graphics when gaming blow the captivate out of the water imo.

The NVIDIA processor and gpu make a big difference in screen quality and quicker rendering of images and videos.

I have both a captivate and atrix but I use my atrix as my daily phone due to the battery life and stable gps.

Don't get me wrong though i love being able to mod my captivate which is a big reason why I have not sold it yet.

If you have the option to grab the atrix, take it, it will be a major upgrade.
[Atrix 4G General] mchimney:
Atrix wins hands down. While the screen is more vibrant on the cappy, i think the quality is better on the Atrix. Even though the first atrix i got had some sort of hardware issue, i was just able to return it and have it work. WIth the cappy i was stuck with a terrible GPS no matter how many times i'd return it. The camera on the captivate seems to be much better tho unless you're dealing with night shots or out door shots in the bright sun.

While i miss the community of the captivate and all the possibilities of Roms, i'm quite content with my atrix knowing with almost certainty that i'll get gingerbread and i won't have to wait almost a year for it.
[Atrix 4G General] FLAC Vest:
The screen really isn't good on the Atrix; I compared tthe Captivate, Nexus 1 , and Atrix aide by side and ended up taking the Atrix back and selling the Captivate.

If you want a higher resolution, just go and get a LCD density app off the market.

As for speed, the Atrix really isn't that much faster. Foe the most part, all apps aside from games aren't really CPU heavy, it's the allocation of apps all running at once that slows people down. If you properly manage your running apps then you shouldn't see much of a seed difference. (My N1 and Atrix are nearly identical).
[Atrix 4G General] lockheedload:
You won't see the iPhone 5 in June lol.

-Sent from my Galaxy Tab
[Atrix 4G General] dptnl:
After two weeks of experience with the atrix and a few months with the captivate I can say this:

The atrix has a better build quality,awesome fingerprint scanner (no one can use my phone/log into my bank account but me and I'm too lazy to type a code or dawing shapes everytime I want to use it) ,amazing GPS reception (works even indoors!, sometimes I get 1meter accuracy!) a better battery and a better performance (twice the ram the cappy has (great for multitasking and battery juice), dual core cpu (less noticeable at this time), etc)

The Captivate has amazing screen colors but lower res (it took me a few days to get used to the atrix, I sure would give up on qhd for led) More games support it at this time,thicker&lighter,neat camera (way better than the atrix, at least at day light) looks better (from my point of view) and much more customizable (due to unlocked bootloader - endless roms, kernels, etc)

Horrible GPS reception and annoying build quality (I heard "clicks" when texting) made me dump the cappy and buying the atrix.

If you don't use GPS much (I use it all the time) and you don't care about

build quality (acceptable on the atrix but far from being htc) you can

stick with your GalaxyS, overall, it is a pretty good phone.

Bottom line is, from my point of view, is that the atrix is for more mature and professional usage/business, and the GalaxyS is better for teens/early 20's (better multimedia capabilities) - Since I just turned 26 I changed it :D

Both phones have terrible laggy home screens so I didn't consider using touchwiz nor motoblur and I didn't even took it as a feature (gde with

odestrian/launcherpro will make your handset happy)

Me, after having I7500 and Captivate, I'm done with Samsung, at least for now, looks like I'm gonna stick with my atrix for at least two years (but who knows..)
[Atrix 4G General] gachiennuocmam:
I prefer to the qHD resolution. Color on Atrix is not that bad it is acceptable. I also have a Samsung Wave with Super Amoled and i can still live with Atrix's screen. It is not that biggie as many people are telling. First time i looked at Samsung Wave's screen i fell in love with it and bought it. Then i showed it to friends and they were impressed and jealous. But now i even forget i have a Super Amoled to watch photos and play games. Many people look at my Wave dont show their impress even though they have never used any better than an LCD phone.
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
So, with the Captivate, an unlocked bootloader means we can custom ROM it and strip the crappy UI out and use whatever we want (and also do things like Voodoo).

That does not exist on the Atrix. That's part of my worry??? Are you content with just using Launcher Pro?

Let me ask this, I'd definitely consider the iPhone 4's to be the best looking LCD out there right now in a phone, how does the Atrix compare to it?
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
Design Gears dumped the Atrix, eh? That isn't too reassuring, lol.
[Atrix 4G General] donharden2002:
I took my atrix back. Couldn't stand the screen, horrible viewing angles horrible color and the phone overall imo was junk. I had too many freezups and had to do 3 master resets on it in a matter of 2 weeks. 1 of those weeks it sat in its box on the fridge.

I would wait for something else to come along. It won't be much longer before new phones hit the market. I would stay away from iphone also unless if you don't mind eating spaghetti every day.
[Atrix 4G General] co.ag.2005:
I came from a Nexus One where it seemed like I flashed a new ROM every week. I now have an Atrix and have been very happy with it. Locked bootloader... doesn't bother me. Everything I have wanted to do with it have been possible with root access and Launcher Pro Plus. IMHO, the screen is fantastic (both resolution and colors) (it took a few day of getting used to the colors), motoblur does not slow the phone down (from a skinning standpoint, it's ugly but I have fixed that with custom icons/widgets (screenshot), and I will be keeping this phone for a while now.

edit: oh, and the phone is crazy fast!
[Android Apps and Games] aqagie:
:)Finally I put on Android market my first application badge controller, this app used to record the times of entry and exit from work in order to verify the correctness of the luggage bag, in fact setting the duration of the workday and the start time and late lunch break, calculate the actual hours worked, overtime hours may be made or permit requested. This information is written to the file Orario.csv, stored in the Badge controller on the SD Card on the device Android.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mesiah:
I have o2 2.1 with rebel sim because i use it in greece, i am wondering if i can flash a streakdroid rom without changing baseband so i can use rebel sim
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nosoapradio:
So I've followed the steps to the letter in the NOOB GUIDE on ODINing back to factory. I've done this successfully a number of times before flashing a new ROM. But I can never seem to wipe off all of the application folders, downloads, pics, music, etc. I've spent way too many hours searching this forum for the answer. Am I missing something?

The question: How to do a complete factory wipe (as if it came straight from the box)? I don't care about backing up.

Thanks,

NSR
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s15274n:
make a backup via Titanium Backup

make a nandroid

move all internal/external to your PC (backup)

on phone, go to sdcard/phone storage, format BOTH

ODIN to JFD (partition checked)

root > rom manager > CWR

move desired rom to phone

reboot to CWR

factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik

flash rom

wipe cache/dalvik (not a factory again)

reboot

wait 10 minutes

reboot

move important files from pc back to phone.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nosoapradio:
Great! So just so I'm clear, if I don't want to save anything from my phone, can I skip the first 3 steps and just check "partition" in the ODIN to JFD?

Thanks,

K
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s15274n:
O yeah, if you have nothing you need to save, then yeah. Format those cards. Fresh is always nice.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fnjamesiii:
All you need to do is obin back to stock the format the internal memory and your done.. that is the only way.. nothing should be installed when you obin just visable on the internal memory... I hope this helps
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nosoapradio:
Excellent, I had a feeling this was the way to go. I appreciate the help.

-NSR
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nosoapradio:
Now I feel like an annoying idiot...

So, I connect the phone to my windows laptop via usb, select the internal sdcard in windows explorer, right-click, click "format", it will be FAT32, format, pull battery, then do the whole normal ODIN thing?

Sorry, I just want to make sure I don't brick my phone.

Thanks for your patience,

NSR
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s15274n:
No.

Boot up your phone like normal

Menu > Settings > SD CARD and Phone Storage

Format both there

Power off

ODIN.
[HTC Incredible S] Nece228:
Hi,

So i planned to buy HTC Desire HD until yesterday came HTC Incredible S to my local shop. And im quite surprised, because Incredible S is cheaper than Desire HD - Desire HD costs 503 euros while Incredible S costs 442 euros. So now im wondering... perhaps i should go straight to Incredible S? But the things i want are Big screen, because im planning to read web, pdfs and stuff like that. I wouldnt buy an expensive phone if it has some freezing or rebooting problem (thats why i skipped original Desire), so as i know Desire HD is reliable, stable, fast and doesnt have any problems regarding that. So Incredible S should be just like Desire HD in stability. Some people are complaining of bad Desire HD battery life, and it seems like Incredible S has bigger battery and smaller screen, so battery life on Incredible S should be better, altough i dont worry too much, if battery would last 24 hours with medium usage thats more than enough. So im asking you Incredible S owners - what problems does this phone have (if it does have them at all), and how well it does work? I mean is it snappy and stable like Desire HD? Also, as i said i want big screen, but if the difference isnt that big (4.3 vs 4.0 inch) in reality, i would be totally satisfied with Incredible S screen. I mean how much would 4.3 inch display compared to 4.0 inch improve the web browsing, pdf documents reading experience? If the difference isnt very significant i wouldnt care. Also how about build quality? Desire HD has metal on his back, while Incredible S has rubberised plastic? Does it squeak? You know, metal is always nice it makes phone a bit stronger, but more or less the phone will sit in its case. So overall which one you would recommend me?

Thanks for answers
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
There are plenty of user reviews in this forum, but in short (and IMHO):

- IS has much better quality screen, albeit slightly smaller (not small enough to make a differance)

- Battery life is much better

- IS has same SOC as the DHD so performance is the same

- Build quality is good. Stable, sturdy and tight
[HTC Incredible S] Nece228:
Thanks, i already readed this forum. But how about hang ups or reboots or something like that? Also how about support? Im almost sure that this phone wont get as much as attention as Desire HD has, altough this is gonna be my first android smartphone, so im not planning to root that phone in near future (too afraid), but still that would be cool if Incredible S would be rooted and Cyanongen mod would be ported to Incredible S, because only HTC Sense and stock android look useful to me, i cant stand all other ui overlays like touchwiz or motoblur, theyre incomplete, laggy and ugly. So anyway as i see you recommend me to go to Incredible S. Well perhaps i will but i need more opinions and replies first, you know i dont want to buy something what i will be regreting for two years.
[HTC Incredible S] raskal:
i fully agree with you, in all points.

i am was using myself the glacier, it's not stable at all, it's heavy, not liked it at all. now i am using the vivo, i am really happy with it, just the shape of the back cover looks strange for me, the only thing i don't like

for my opinion, this phone will become a best seller !
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
If it in a rush: certainly buy the IS. If u have some time 2 spare u can wait for the dual cores, which should be a better choice.

Just because the IS is newer, it has some better balanced hardware. A lot of people feel the same way about it. Upgrade is a waste of money, new its definitely worth it. But if you can wait a month or 3 u probably should go for a dual core. For the next 2 year a lot will change in Android and much better support dual cores.

And about your questions: Nvr had any problems, sometimes its a bit baggy, but its over in a second or so. The back doesn't squeak.
[HTC Incredible S] Nece228:
Thanks for opinions.

Well im also thinking so, but i found one thing, Desire HD shoots better videos i mean fps than Incredible S, why is that so?

Desire HD video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNtZSgcaToY

Incredible S video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJHfX5j7Es

The difference is pretty obvious.

About dual cores well i dont see any reason to buy one of them. Why? The current 1 ghz android smarthphones are very fast and smooth theres almost no area for perfomance improvements, so definitely dual cores is not worth a wait. The only advantage i see is gaming, but im not a gamer so i dont care. Also it should improve multitasking but multitasking in android is already pretty smart and optimized for single core cpus.
[HTC Incredible S] royxuehun:
I think IS will be popular soon.In fact,it's becoming popular.IS is better than DHD,but it also some problem.some1 said he takes photo red,and he can hear his own voice when he made call.It can't be rooted yet.
[HTC Incredible S] vontdeux:
I myself too had the same problem with ts, but I went with IS cuz of the battery life
[HTC Incredible S] NardVa:
Shooting videos should be the same considering camera hardware is the same. The video from the Desire HD in the youtube video appeared to be better but I think that had more to do with location and lighting. If you record the same location the video should be identical.
[HTC Incredible S] Nece228:
I saw other videos of incredible s and even those with good light conditions are still worse than desire hd's.
[HTC Incredible S] jkolner:
I had a DHD for 2 weeks, and its certainly not a bad phone. But when i was offered to svop the DHD for a IncS, i acceptede it right away, and i havn't regrettede it for one second.

The IncS has much better screen and build quality.

Just waiting for it to bee rooted ;-)
[HTC Incredible S] langtuxyz:
the 2 are good
[HTC Incredible S] Nece228:
Thanks again for opinions.

Altough it shouldnt have random reboot or freezing problem, theres thread in here in which quite a few people complain that it restarts itself. Do you have same problem?
[HTC Incredible S] jkolner:
Never - and my IncS it filled up with widgest and 3 part software.
[HTC Incredible S] Nece228:
Thanks,

Ill probably go to Incredible S now. But i made a deal with shop, so when Desire HD and Incredible S arrives ill have chance to use them both and choose one in the shop.
[HTC Incredible S] Ballistic_78:
Better quality life beats hands down rest of Desire family. That is big plus to Incredible S.
[HTC Incredible S] HugoEgon:
you wanted to say "battery life", didn't you? ;-)
[HTC Incredible S] rexlesaunder:
DHD being the Flagship device at the time of release, i would have expected the cost of it would hold for quite some time, even thought the newer IS is out now, it's not quite revolutionary enough to be yet another flagship device at this stage.

But having one on my hand now and having played with my friend's DHD, you are getting a pretty similar device for a bit less money to be honest.

I would definately say go for the IS unless you find a good deal on the DHD.
[HTC Incredible S] ramis7:
I had also htc desire hd, it was a good phone but its build quality was not so nice especially the Sim card cover was so badly build, it is so rough and always keep the gap between aluminium part of the phone. so it looked very ugly like a broken phone, and htc knows very well about this issue and many users are using their warranty for this sim card cover.

I prefer htc incredible s over dersire hd on two factors.

IS screen resolution is much better than desire hd. SLCD IS BETTER THAN LCD especially when you are using your phone outside.

IS build quality is also impressive, no doubt it has rubbery back but looks great in hand and no awkward issue like desire hd( Sim cover)

but if you consider only software, then both are same. :)
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
Just to clarify, the resolution of both devices is exactly the same. The IS looks sharper and clear because the pixel density is higher, because it is physically smaller. But the end result is it looks crisper, and also the brightness of SLCD is much improved as well
[HTC Incredible S] a.2mjed.a:
I have a Q for those ho has the IS.

How is the loudspeaker? Is it like DHD or better/worse?
[HTC Incredible S] doctorsax:
There's already a three-page thread dedicated to this question.
[HTC Incredible S] Chad_Petree:
this should be incredible s vs inspire 4g, the inspire 4g has a superlcd screen that was one major flaw of the desire hd the other one is the battery life :(
[HTC Incredible S] Maedhros:
Hey.

I have the NA version of the Desier HD (with the SLCD). Since you are considering the InS vs DHDEU I would say compare the screens.

Everything is pretty much the same. I can't imagine a HUGE difference in battery life.

Just compare screen size/type. Plus build quality.

Metal vs Rubber.

I compare the DHDNA to the InS and I would pick the DHD every time.

However DHDEU with LCD might be much worse then the SLCD.
[HTC Incredible S] Maconi:
I need a bit of help in deciding between the HTC Desire HD and HTC Incredible S myself.

I need an international unlocked phone because I'm with AT&T (in the US) and would prefer to keep my super old (no data) grandfathered plan, and supposedly if you use any phone that AT&T has the IMEI for (can tell that it's a smartphone) they'll automatically tack on their data plan.

The IS is definitely the better phone all around, no doubt about it. My issue with it is that it isn't root-able (for now).

In anyone's expert opinion, do you think the IS will ever be rooted, or if yes, in any reasonable amount of time (within the next couple months)?

If the IS never gets its root problems solved, I might either go with the DHD or just hold out for the "HTC Pyramid" although I'm afraid that it might not be an international unlocked phone (or even if it is, that it'll be $700+ US$ which is a little high for me).
[HTC Incredible S] Chad_Petree:
why dont u get the inspire 4g? it is better than the desire hd and its on at&t ;)
[HTC Incredible S] thedosbox:
The Desire HD is too big for comfortable one handed operation IMO. Your hands may vary.
[HTC Incredible S] Maconi:
That's why ;) lol.
[HTC Incredible S] alexanderi:
Keep in mind before getting your IS. There isn't any root for this phone yet. Unless you can life with Stock ROM.