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[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Just off the top after flashing there is no 1120 step anymore and deadline is default scheduler.

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[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
I think the overclock limit was changed to 1500 right?

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[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Yeah. I didn't notice that at first but it is maxed at 1500

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[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Yea, I thought so. That's what it said on his git. It said something else on his git that confuses me. Can you check in the about phone menu in settings and tell me what the kernel version is? What are the numbers?

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[Fascinate Android Development] navenedrob:
2.6.32.9

OTB-Reloaded-1.5 #1
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Ok thanks man. That's what I thought but I don't know why it was mentioning a Samsung. 35 kernel on his git. I know we don't have those available yet. Hey navenedrob, if you get a wild hair you feel like building his cm7 gb kernel as well? I'll be your best friend, lol. But seriously. Thanks man.

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[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Off the bat I can say this seems a little more stable the the 1.3 I was on before. Have to give it a little more time to know for sure. But so far so good. Thanks for getting this up and online for us. Just out of curiousity. Where's Nem? Anyone know if he's just been busy or what's up? I kinda figure he's been busy with all the new ROM releases and what not. Just wanted to know if he is doin OK.

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[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
I've been wondering the same thing, he's been kinda MIA lately. I'm sure he's just real busy with life and family.

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[Fascinate Android Development] stephenj37826:
well it isn't as stable for me as 1.2 so far. One thing i have noticed is it seems to like lower voltages. Also the performance is up at lower clock speeds. Noticed he changed the thresholds and sampling rate on conservative scaler. I can run 1.4 ghz but 1.5 freezes. I can run 1.5 on otb 1.2.
[Fascinate Android Development] CHANGiism:
just noticed that what navendrob is posting does not have SU included. I am not sure how that will affect other functions or if you will lose root. It may explain why some people can't boot from his CM7 v1.5 build. Just a heads up.
[Fascinate Android Development] navenedrob:
Seems like he committed additional changes since I built the kernels, which probably explains why the GB kernel did not work out, perhaps when I built the kernel it wasn't ready for full-time use.

Since the CM7/GB thread has a good mirror to a working build of 1.5 I won't build another for that, but since no one has built a new copy of the 1.5 TW version yet, I will build that now.

EDIT: Just tried building and booting the latest source and it won't boot.

EDIT: I have to go to work in about 5 minutes, so I won't be able to work on it until later today, maybe someone can pick up where I left off :)

BTW he updated the readme, here is the change list he published:

Built from ground up with new fascinate source

Overclock up to 1500 MHz

UV control via sysfs using Voltage Control app

Voodoo lagfix, color, and sound - thanks to supercurio and project-voodoo

CWM3 with options to wipe voltage settings and enable/disable 100 MHz step

BLN - thanks to neldar

BFQ v2 scheduler

Simple io scheduler

autogroup_sched patch v4

Kernel hz at 300, User hz at 150

TinyRCU - thanks to paulmck

Initramfs from JT1134 with busybox, and init.d support added

Kernel installs Superuser.apk and su

Modules tun and cifs included

rdnis support added

Backported ext4 patches - thanks to imnuts

Updated reserved memory settings and jhash3 table from speedmod kernel

Battery Hack - thanks to sirgatez

GizmoDroid fixes for data wipes

Uses edify scripting

Other misc tweaks

***note gb branch is not currently using lagfix***
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Something else I noticed. There is a enable/disable 100 mhz feature in CWM under advanced. So even if you have 100 mhz enabled through voltage control you still have to enable it in CWM. Just what I saw anyway.

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[Fascinate Android Development] vlucchetti:
If we try this and don't like it, how do we get back to 1.4, re-flash comrom ? Thought I saw somewhere about extracting an image file but can't remember where I saw it.
[Fascinate Android Development] garywojdan81:
Look thru the comm.rom thread. I think someone pulled it out & posted it somewhere.

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[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Page 70 of this thread has the download link for otb 1.4. I would post the link but I'm not near my computer.
[Fascinate Android Development] dablitzkrieg:
Whoever is in charge of maintaining the site needs to keep things up to date. The above should be in the original post. Sorry, but that's lazy IMO. Flame away...blah blah blah. That post (regarding the 1.4 OTB) was made on 5-7. What is today's date? 10 days later and still no update. Yes I know in the grand scheme of things more important things in life, blah blah blah. In the infinite words of Floyd Mayweather...."step ya game up" MODS
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
FYI, mods don't update developers OP's for them. You should take your beef up with the devs in question who, I might add, are making this stuff available to you for free regardless of where it may be in the thread. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
You know I would be more concerned with Nems overall MIA. So what if he didn't update the OP. I'm fine with others helping him out. I would just like to know everythings alright with him. I feel like these guys are my friends even though no true face to face contact ever occurs. He along with the other devs have helped make mine and many others phones outperform many others on the market. Cut the guy some slack man hell they have only been releasing and updating this **** for free and really haven't asked any of us for anything in return. Seriously if you are expecting more then that from these guys then your expectations may be a little high.

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[Fascinate Android Development] AuroEdge:
You're ridiculous hahaha
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Think what ya want man makes no diff to me.

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[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
I agree completely. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] 420fan:
Feel free to develop your own kernal and make your own thread if this one doesn't suit you, or ask for your money back, oh that's right, it was free!

Lame
[Fascinate Android Development] PeterGunz:
I'm on 1.5, and CPU Spy strangely says that the 100 and 1200 steps are unused, even though I have them enabled in voltage control and the limit set to 1200. Might need to flash back down to 1.4 or 1.2 to enable OC again.
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
For the 100mhz step you will need to enable in CWM. It is under advanced. As for the 1200mhz try clearing out you settings enable the 100 mhz step in CWM and then re enabling 1200.

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[Fascinate Android Development] PeterGunz:
Thanks. That worked. I got the 1200 step to register. I noticed you use CPU Spy too. What is "Deep Sleep"? Is that my 100 step?
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Deep sleep is standby. When your screen has been off for a period of time your phone goes into deep sleep to conserve power.

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[Fascinate Android Development] PeterGunz:
Got it. I didn't know the phone used a step below whatever I put my lowest step at. I might go without the 100 step. I got crazy battery life with it at 125, but using 200 at the bottom -100 was almost as good. And fewer reboots is a plus too.
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
I've always had troube with the 100mhz step so I never use it. I honestly cannot tell a difference in battery between having it enabled and not. The only difference was fewer sleep of deaths and reboot as you stated. Your results may vary though. Anywho glad I could help ya.

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[Fascinate Android Development] dablitzkrieg:
I guess you don't do sarcasm....facepalm
[Fascinate Android Development] nemesis2all:
You seem to be under the impression that I owe you something. You are wrong. If and when I decide to update the thread it will be on my time. I build kernels BC I like to learn new things. I will choose for myself when and where I share them.
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Glad to see you Nem. I hope all is well. I know you don't owe me anything and hope you know how much your work is truely appreciated.

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[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Hey Nemesis it's good to see some signs of life man. I know you're probably busy and that's why you have been absent. Great job as always but I just wanted to let you know on your 1.5 gb I am finding it to be kind of unstable. With your 1.2 gb I was able to oc to 1.4 ghz stable with a mild uv for the 1300 and 1400 steps. With this 1.5 I am even experiencing some freeze ups occasionally on 1300 and I can't even run 1400 at all. I bought voltage control extreme and even with the overvolt capabilities I can't run 1400. Just wanted to give you a heads up. I hope all is well with you but I have a feeling it's not. Thanks a ton. :)

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[Fascinate Android Development] stephenj37826:
He was on irc yesterday so he must be ok.
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
no one owes you anything...unhappy that there there are no updates every 5 seconds for you to flash? too bad

your sense of entitlement is ridiculous...do us all a favor and gtfo and stop insulting individuals who spend their free time making things for us....you are a nobody and a jerk on top of that
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
+1000, and well said.

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[Fascinate Android Development] fitti28:
I agree that guy "dablitzkrieg" is so unappreciative. All the Devs do so much for us and for free to boot. If that dude wants things updated faster then he should learn to do all this for himself. We all would love things updated faster but hello that is not reality as everyone here has a life outside of XDA, People have jobs, Wives and many other more important things to do. I am sure i speak for the majority and say we all appreciate what the devs give us and i think alot is updated pretty quickly.

*** Thank you Devs for all that you do.****

Nemesis2all you are so right in what you told him & Nitsuj you told him and i agree with everything you said.
[Fascinate Android Development] dablitzkrieg:
Nope, no impression that you owe me or anyone else anything. "If and when you decide" to do anything is on your time, I understand that. As I said before, "typing sarcasm" doesn't work well. You misunderstand my intentions. I am grateful for what you do.
[Fascinate Android Development] dablitzkrieg:
Wow, internet toughguy. I don't remember insulting anyone. But if you feel as though you need to insult to get your point across...
[Fascinate Android Development] fitti28:
the problem is that it's difficult to understand what people are saying or how they mean something when its typed. When posting things we all need to read it back to ourselves before hitting post. Then there will be no misunderstandings.
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
your post came across as an attack on the op for not continually updating his kernels/op...if that was sarcasm as you are saying it is...it doesnt come across well at all

and am i an "internet tough guy" no...but i know better than to make posts like the one you did earlier
[Fascinate Android Development] dablitzkrieg:
You are right about how my post was taken. But your insults, although comical, were really not called for and quite juvenile (that is NOT sarcasm). I don't remember calling anyone a jerk or telling them to "GTFO". Sorry to Nemisis if I offended you. If you guys new me, I actually am not about entitlement or thinking I am above anyone, b/c I am not. I'm just an average Joe who is not smart enough to develop as the great developers on here do. If I came across as inpatient, I apologize.
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
You know, I don't have anything against you personally but I will defend our devs like nemesis2all and Nitsuj who contribute A LOT to our community. Nit's may have came back harshly but I understand why. You need to admit you were wrong and let it be. You don't contribute anything to this community but then again, neither do I. Sorry man, but truth is truth.

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[Fascinate Android Development] dablitzkrieg:
I admit I was wrong to post what I did. I'm sorry. I didn't want to come across as ungrateful, clearly that was how it was taken.
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Yea, we are all wrong from time to time. I'm not perfect. Thanks for understanding that I wasn't trying to be rude. :)

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[Fascinate Android Development] Toddw:
I found that for my phone this kernel does not play well with Dark Revenge. I was getting alot of lag. It would take forever to scroll from one screen to the next or to load an app. EB16 was fine but not EC10. Flashed SC 2.9.2 and it works fine. If the battery does not hold up tomorrow well I'll go back to DR and EB16. Also GPS did not lock with DR.
[Fascinate Android Development] saps:
Happy to report that Im 24 hours on the first edition of this kernel and still have 40% battery remaining. I didnt even charge it last night. As I like to run it nearly all the way down the first charge cycle after a batt stats reset, which I always do when I charge kernels with new voltages.

Very impressive battery life as well as the expected speed and performance.

One question for clarification on the UV. I assume its -50mv at each and every step? I know with some of the previous 2.1 kernels nemesis2all you did the lower steps [800Mhz and down] at -100mv. Safe to say this is the projected plan moving forward?

Great work as always
[Fascinate Android Development] tapout27:
When could we expect to see the non-OEM battery hack included in this kernel???
[Fascinate Android Development] Syn Ack:
I would also like to know.

But saps, I am running Voltage Control right now and it seems to be safe at -50mV at every upper step all the way down to 400Mhz. It becomes unstable and freezes when I put mine at even -25mV at 200Mhz and 100Mhz. Also, these are already slightly undervolted from when we got them the other day. Unless nemesis is saying this particular one is "X" amount undervolted from the completely stock version of EC10.
[Fascinate Android Development] CrucialBT:
Bummer, my Fascinate freezes using either the UV and the SV kernels. I can run quadrant fine from an icon on my homescreen. But the second I open ADW Ex's 4D application menu and scroll for even a second the entire phone locks up. :(
[Fascinate Android Development] nemesis2all:
The UV version is currently uv from stock as follows

-25 mV at 1000 mhz

-50 mV at all steps below that

I thought every step was -50mV beacause our .29 source started at 1300 mV for 1000mhz step but this source starts at 1275 mV for 1000mhz step. I hope this clears up any confusion. Also check first page because I put a kernel there that is completely stock voltage if someone is having problems. Of course some phones will not be able to handle oc regardless of voltage. Ymmv.
[Fascinate Android Development] Hilbe:
Can you make a 1.1ghz slot on there? Mine randomly freezes at 1.2ghz even at stock voltage kernel you posted.
[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
Loving the overclock! Very smooth
[Fascinate Android Development] nemesis2all:
I plan on adding 1.1 ghz step and others :)
[Fascinate Android Development] kuronosan:
What about the waking problem?
[Fascinate Android Development] minho422:
is it better that I use SetCPU? interactive setting lags too much and freezes frequently, and I can't feel the difference with conservative either.
[Fascinate Android Development] grenade01:
Nevermind [][][]
[Fascinate Android Development] 4GivenByChrist:
Working good so far. Will this kernel have the unsupported battery hack added eventually?
[Fascinate Android Development] navenedrob:
Don't use interactive, the governor is quite screwy at this time and doesn't ramp up the speed enough during tasks to make it otherwise.

You wouldn't "notice" a change with conservative, because all it does is throttle your CPU speed into the lower spectrum more often than not to save battery. It is a good option to use however.
[Fascinate Android Development] dalrym05:
Will you make a 1.3ghz Sv kernel? My phone ran great like that on eclair and was hoping it might here as so far I haven't had a kernel with any issues. Or 1.4ghz :-)
[Fascinate Android Development] dricacho:
Will try this again.
[Fascinate Android Development] PeterGunz:
Enjoyed the -50 until it locked up while looking at the stock photo gallery, so switching to the SV. Loved the kernel while it worked, but my phone must not be up for the UV + OC. Great job.
[Fascinate Android Development] dricacho:
I just flashed the SV kernel. I remember back on DJ05, my phone would lock up the same when under-volted. I think this phone just doesn't like UV. It should be stable with SV. We'll see after an hour, this is usually when my phone would lock up.
[Fascinate Android Development] navenedrob:
nemesis2all, do you have init.d support?
[Fascinate Android Development] PeterGunz:
3 hours and no lock ups on the SV kernel. Super fast. Loving it.

Edit: Spoke too soon. Right after posting up above, I rebooted the phone and could not get past the boot logo. Would cycle once and then lock. Had to boot to recovery and flash a different kernel. It was great while it lasted. I will definitely try it again.
[Fascinate Android Development] dablitzkrieg:
I am guilty

always

of being overly sarcastic and using humor as a defense mechanism. I'm actually being serious here.
[Fascinate Android Development] iceman1183:
Ok ok so everyone's apologized and now we all feel warm and fuzzy...now stop the thread hijack. :-)

Back to the kernel, 1.5 runs like a champ on my phone, thanks for all the hard work you do nemesis and good to see you posting again.
[Fascinate Android Development] dablitzkrieg:
What are your voltage settings?
[Fascinate Android Development] Grimis:
Where do you find the 1.4 & 1.5 kernels?
[Fascinate Android Development] beray5:
Page 70 and 74.
[Fascinate Android Development] GoBruins:
What post? some people have different viewing settings... (ie i have 15pages or so)
[Fascinate Android Development] beenz:
Posts 697 and 734 :)
[Fascinate Android Development] dissent27:
Anybody using the stock visual voicemail with this kernel? Mine seems to be not updating. Refresh doesnt work nor can I unsubscribe. I'm on 1.3, did load 1.5 earlier.and still was not working. Thanks.
[Fascinate Android Development] M00NEY:
Just a quick clarification request - does the build of the 1.5 kernel in post 734 include SU (and root?)?

TIA
[Fascinate Android Development] Chewy1576:
I flashed 1.5 over ComRom w/1.4 and SU didn't break for me.
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Yes it does. At least the gb version does. I would assume TW version would be no different.

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[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
The root breaking in the past was due to nemesis's kernels not being compatible with the fascinate's mount wrapper. In finding the solution to that problem Nemesis discovered his new superuser root package zip and he now implements this on all his kernels. So the root breaking should not be a problem anymore.

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[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
It didn't break root on mine. But then again it hasn't done that to me since the early versions of OTB.

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[Fascinate Android Development] iceman1183:
My phone's never been able to handle anything over 1200mHz, so I'm sitting like this:

1200 - 1300mV (0)

1000 - 1250mV (-25)

800 - 1150mV (-50)

600 - 1100mV (-75)

400 - 950mV (-100)

200 - 825mV (-125)

Getting above average battery life for now. Going to try to push the undervolt on the mid range steps a bit more in the future. I find that with a heavy undervolt at 200, when the phone is asleep it loses next to nothing. Hope this helps.

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[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Just to compare. I've ran the following since v1.3 and get pretty decent battery life and great performance.

Max 1200 with CFQ set as Scheduler

1200 -50

1000 -75

800 -75

600 -75

400 -75

200 -75

Again this is just what I've been running and seems to work well with my phone.

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[Fascinate Android Development] M00NEY:
Thx for teh root responses gents (I [likely foolishly] presume)

ETA - So I have installed the OTB 1.5. Obviously I cannot yet comment on long term stability, but with this version my phone seems a lot more responsive (speed-wise), boot was noticeably faster, and I am able to run 1400mhz again...

I did not yet experiment with 1500, but on 1.2 I was able to run 1400, no dice on 1.3 or 1.4 - would immediately lock upon applying the setting.

This seems to me (qualified as a very short term review) to be the best build yet for my particular phone.
[Fascinate Android Development] CHANGiism:
I have a question about the scheduler.. I know for 1.3 and 1.4, SIO was chosen as default but it was an experimental scheduler. Is deadline chosen because it has some performance advantage over other schedulers or is it another experimental one? I heard that BFQ is "supposedly" the best one, but it's not fully implemented, and CFQ is usually the second best choice. I know the term best is subjective and the performance margin is very minimal but I would like to know what made the Deadline the default scheduler instead of CFQ or others.
[Fascinate Android Development] vlucchetti:
All the other kernels linked here have su in the apps folder in system. 1.5 does not, unless it's absence means it does not overwrite or remove the root already on the system - just a guess, though I am reluctant to flash it until I know for sure.
[Fascinate Android Development] iceman1183:
Flashed 1.5 straight over comrom with included 1.4 kernel, no issues with losing root. Refer to post #792 by kidserious.
[Fascinate Android Development] vlucchetti:
Thanks. Then I'll give it a go.
[Fascinate Android Development] beray5:
Often chosen because Deadline is better than other schedulers on flash based devices from known constant latency for all I/O accesses random or not.

Performance difference is almost always very minimal, but typically if you missed your schedule even by fraction of a millisecond, the result is the same as missing the schedule by hours, months, years... Your data stream is gone, lost, the data window is closed... Ever heard "skips, crackles, and pops"? They came from missing chunks of the data streams.
[Fascinate Android Development] nemesis2all:
Su, Superuser.apk, and lib lights for bln have been moved to initramfs with script in sbin to install them. Goal is to have everything needed in zImage so no matter how you flash experience will be the same.
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
So far I have had no issues with the 1.5 at all. It seems a lot more stable on my phone and seems to be doing better on battery. Love this kernel man. It rocks.

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[Fascinate Android Development] vlucchetti:
Thank you!
[Fascinate Android Development] navenedrob:
Hey guys, just wanted to drop in with an updated kernel link: http://adbdev.com/danknub/SF_TW_OTB-Reloaded_ver1.5.zip

I believe this version has all the latest fixes, enjoy.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Is that the same 1.5 that was linked at multiupload.com several pages back, or is it newer than that?
[Fascinate Android Development] tapout27:
This is the newer update of v1.5 posted previously