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[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
Yes but you will have to do it one at a time as there is no option to forward multiple messages at one time. While in in the messaging app and viewing yhe message you want to forward touch menu at the bottom right of the screen and then select forward then select the message you want to forward and enter the number of the person you want to forward it to.

I can not remember the names of the apps but there is apps out that will allow mutiple messages. Just search the O'market or the Marketplace.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eatingking:
I want to do it ~

THANK YOU~~
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Live Tiles are one of the big features of WP7. They are supposed to spare you to the need to constantly open your apps. Yet they seem to never work or else barely. From what I gather, 1st party tiles are never an issue but the 3rd party ones behave erratically, a couple of days a week or only after a hard reset.

I did a hard reset myself a couple of days ago just after getting NoDo and none of my Live Tiles has ever worked since. I have the following pinned:

- WeatherDuck

- Flixter

- Currency Tile

- Tile Notes

- Flickr

What's your experience with Live Tiles?
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
My Live Tiles still work perfectly. Actually, I woke up to a couple, including WeatherBug, having information for me... Could it be an erratic data connection? I've seen you post about this before, but I'm not sure what could cause a few people to see this, when the majority of users don't.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
i having the problem with my marketplace live tile,even i have updated all the apps,however,the live tile still indicate that updates are available.It is quite misleading.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
I don't believe it's a data connection issue, I've spent most of the last 2 days home where I connect via Wifi.

Push notifications work again since the reset but all the 3rd party live tiles are dead.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
You need to back out of the marketplace using the back button, not home button, otherwise it'll still show the number of updates as opposed to 0. I'm assuming that this is due to the fact that the marketplace periodically checks for updates, rather than other live tiles which use 'push' to update... This one seems to 'pull'

I don't know then, I've personally never experienced this, forunately *knock on wood*
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
So you're saying you have

never

had

any

issue at all with Live Tiles since day one? That's a first from where I stand.

Very odd.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Related to a fault in the OS? Nope. I've had Beezz fail on me, and WeatherBug, but those were their faults on their ends... I don't have an incredible number of Live Tiles anyway, but from what I do use, they work... Beezz notifications stopped, but I assume that has to do with the app, as I can't even change the settings... I'll put up Flixster and see what happens, and post back.

As of now though, WeatherBug is updating every 40 minutes, just as I have it scheduled...
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Never a single issue with a tile here... Everything has worked perfectly from the start.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
That's very strange, most people I know using WP7 have these issues. I'm slowly starting to wonder if this has to do with whether or not you're in the US. I'll see how people answer first.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I've got every US WP7 device and though I don't use them all on a daily basis I've used each quite a bit and I haven't had any discernible issues with any phone aside from the surround.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
That's my point, all the the users I know are in the UK and all have experienced tiles not working for days or weeks; and this since day one.

Hopefully with more answers we can shed some light on this.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Avandor:
My problems have been related to certain apps... Beez worked once, then stoped working. WeatherBug worked, then stopped, now works again.

All the other basic and normal live tiles (Exchange, Gmail, Live) have never stopped working, so I gather its mostly app related.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
The apps you name as constantly working are 1st party apps which is why the poll is about 3rd party apps.

I can see you're in Europe and having issues, I might be onto something there. Is there any way to amend the poll questions? I should have "I'm/I'm not in the US" in there.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Freypal:
Some of mine occasionally stop working. Weatherbug works most of the time. The weather channel stopped working completely.

Ebay notifications only work intermitantly

A soft reset usually clears it though...

(This was on .7004 I am now on .7008 so I assume the same)
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
You're making a great assumption here. The 3rd party apps he named there have had documented server issues with their push notifications, which also provide the data for live tiles... Has zero to do with the OS. Maybe what you're seeing is the difference between a dedicated server (Microsoft) and some of these half-assed third party ones... I'm just guessing here though.

Also, you've asked this before, and from what I saw, most users on this forum said they haven't seen these issues.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
From what I see the users without issues are in the US. Like I said earlier, I know a number of UK users who all get issues since day one. Let's see what others come up with.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Tiles work like sh..t basically.

They are advertised as a special WP7 feature but from my side they're fail ATM.

Even Zune one is a disaster, it changes the artwork picture every... 2 weeks.

As for 3rd party, some are better so looks like it's definitely programming problem also.

Weather Channel is mostly OK. Also UrbanDictionary.

The main thing is they are TOO SLOW for beeing any reliable source of information.

Instead they're just gimmick.

The only time they really work is when you KEEP your phone connected to data for hours.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Avandor:
"Official" WP7 live tiles have always worked fine for me, including Zune that swaps album artwork quite frequently.

The issue seems to be poor 3rd application coding.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Not just that it seems... If you look at the 1st page, these users in the US never had any issue so that could be it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Ok. My Zune shows one artwork for weeks even if I play other albums.

But the coding differs, that's for sure.

Some tiles never refresh, and some are fine.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Why am I not surprised, that you, of all people, have an issue with even Microsoft tiles... and complain about them being a 'gimmick' - new users who come here are going to take you seriously, which is the worst part about it, and think your phony experiences represent an entire community and platform.

I really think it has more to do than just a region issue. After all, these third party developers are using worldwide servers... Beezz is French, WeatherBug is American, and I'm sure other developers are foreign... They wouldn't restrict connections from their homes...

Could it be a data provider issue? I mean, your foreign plans are different than our American ones, especially when it comes to data transfer...
[Windows Phone 7 General] quactaur:
I had problems with SendtoWP7 not working a month back, but since resetting the phone have never once had a live tile problem. I use beez, sendtowp7 and weatherbug regularly, and have occasionally used others.

NODO HTC Trophy on Vodafone UK
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Plans are different indeed but I believe we get better deals than you although I might be wrong. Also on WiFi I still get tiles not updating.

What we might need is a list of well programed apps that we can compare from a region perspective.
[Windows Phone 7 General] thesecondsfade:
Your poll is missing "I have had a few minor issues and solved without hard reset." Leading the poll results at all? Hard reset is not the answer in the vast majority of cases.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Yeah I'll admit to missing answers. How did you solve the issue then?
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Tons of people have had issues with Live Tiles - 3rd party Live Tiles to be exact.

There are always people who say they've never had an issue with stuff (just like the GPS in Galaxy S phones, or the Lag, etc.). We know you people are out there, so you don't need to defend it so furiously.

Live Tiles and Push Notifications are not dependable for lots of people on WP7. People have been complaining about these things since the platform launched. It's not limited by Geographic Region, Carrier, Plan Type, Data Connection Type, or Device. I'm on WiFi 90% of the time and the Tiles simply don't update - some of the Microsoft Tiles included.

Tiles like Messages, Hotmail/Outlook, and Phone aren't Live Tiles. They're just Tiles with Tickers that change. TBQH, I can't really think of any of the pre-loaded Tiles except HTC Hub Tile which is "Live." Even People Hub does nothing but cycle through the cached images your phone gets from Facebook, and Me/XBL Tile does the same. Zune Tile displays the Albulm Art from the playing file, but even that doesn't even update 80% of the time for weeks on end.

When I first got my phone I tried WeatherBug and TWC and neither of them updated. I finally got the TWC Live tile to update once but uninstalled it cause it was too volatile to justify the amount of space the app takes up (and HTC Hub Tile makes for a better weather tile). I never got a Push Notification from it even in terrible weather (i.e. Severe Thunderstorm Watch in my area).

It's too hard to really know whether the issue is:

1. An OS Bug

2. Badly coded Applications

3. Issues with the Push Servers

Best to just keep pressuring Microsoft about the issues. They are more equipped to troubleshoot it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Not talking about the deals, I mean things might be restricted

If you read my response to him you'll see that I pointed out his problem with Microsoft tiles... Which nobody else has reported.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Wyn6:
My live tiles have been fine up until last week.

I first noticed this as the live tile for Pro Sports Scores allowed me to select a game that wasn't even being played. To clarify... this was beginning of last week, the game was just played a few days ago and Pro Sports only let's you select games for that same day or the next day. I tried to go back and select an actual game but from that point on, it stayed on that non-game and wouldn't update.

After this, I then noticed that Sports Scores' ( a different app) live tiles were no longer working either.

After uninstalling and reinstalling, they still don't work. Pro Sport scores won't even allow you to activate the live tile as it gives a "channel failed to open" error.

Alphajax still seems to work although it's been up and down in the past.

I don't have many live tiles installed on my device (DVP) so don't think I've hit the 15 live tile limit. Also, found this over at Mobility Digest. Check the last three comments after the article.

http://mobilitydigest.com/microsoft-clarifies-15-live-tile-limit/
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Me too, I don't have any restriction regarding data connection.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
This post is exactly what starts a war, you know.

As you will go through the whole forum you'll see countless issues people have with Zune artwork/background image. There were few threads about it.

So as for MS tiles, I precisely named this one. The other live tiles like "Me" or "People" are fine as well as Calendar etc.

I see no reason to lie about anything.

And yes, in current state Tiles are just a gimmick.

If you ask me, more feature rich widgets would be better.

Anyway, design is a matter of taste and I accept WP7 look and feel.

But the tiles performance is not great ATM.
[Windows Phone 7 General] thesecondsfade:
Most push/live tile notification issues relate to how independent developers implement it into their apps. This is why push works on the Microsoft native apps even when push stops working on 3rd party apps. This is very apparent by what GoVoice has gone through. Various versions of the app worked with push, didn't work with push, etc... it's been very reliable since the developer released his most recent version, so obviously however he implemented it is what is going to affect its reliability with the live tile updates and push.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Guys please read this, the explaination of a MS guy why 3rd party live tiles/notifications stop being live and start updating in a regular (very very long) interval:

"According to the Microsoft Push team, these issues may be at least partly due to how the mobile carrier operators manage their data connections. If they cut off the data connection too frequently, this can cause the push client to go into polling mode where it only reconnects every hour or so. The Push team is planning to adjust the polling setting in the next release, and also work with the mobile operators to see if they can be less aggressive with their timeouts.

Hope this helps,

- Mark "

I asked the support... no news nothing to say... all they said is your device has a defect (which is not true) or do a hardreset (which does not solve **** either)

the true explaination is your carrier is handeling the connections in a way it confuses wp7 and it fails to connect.

The reason why more Europeans have these issues, is because the phones are only tested in US. This is why there are so many region related bugs, no youtube, not being able to add properly formatted phone numbers, bugs in bing maps, these issues will be gone when switching region settings to En-US... but not the push issues unfortunately.

So the push system might work fine on all carriers in the states, it does not work on TMobile NL. While Vodafone NL does not appear to have issues with push, I have not tested it to be sure but I read it somewhere.

Some other guy replied:

"In my experience, which i tested with M. Hoekstra of Microsoft the Netherlands, it is mainly provider related. These are some carriers where users with my app had these problems:

- O2 UK

- AT&T US

- T-Mobile NL"

I doubt ATT has the problems though, however if you have O2 in the UK you might be one of the unfortunate like me and will NOT be able to use push RELIABLY. But it will be an hourly poll service instead. And no MS does not give a ****, the forums are spammed about how badly developed the push notification system is. Well I dont know, for some it will work, for others it will not work.

Try this test: pull out your simcard and restart the phone. Check if it works on wifi only. If it keeps working and you keep getting toasts (use sed to wp7 or tigertext/textme and send messages to yourself to test push notifications). If you are not experiencing any issues on wifi only, you are on a flawed carrier... note that once you connect to 3g and have wifi your phone will fail to connect to the push service if your wifi drops (screen-lock or no wifi in the area) and will fail to establish notification channels and your phone will try to reconnect to the service about 1 hour later :) and you receive all your toasts 1 hour late... lovely

So I guess we make a list of the carriers and send it to MS support:

- TMobile NL

- O2 UK

- add yours...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Freypal:
I just added a load of new live tiles to my device. None of them were working and then suddenly a load of them sprang to life at once....

They've generally been pretty unreliable for me and so I haven't used them much. The best one i found was weather bug but then that has a built in update interval that i set to 20 minutes.

So maybe Orange UK if others can confirm?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
test it by once in a while sending yourself a toast and see if you receive it instant or 20 minutes delayed. If there is a huge delay try a soft reset, the push should be instant now, however if after an hour or 2 the toast will be delayed by 20 minutes again you can add your carrier to the list :).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Freypal:
Sorry to sound dumb.. but a toast?
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
I am curious about one or two of the responses I am reading in this thread and would like an objective opinion:

Premise: WP7 Live tiles vs the grid of icons on the iPhone screen vs the grid of icons when you hit your menu button on Android: Which one is better?

Maybe my premise is wrong. I am comparing a grid of navigational buttons on the three different mobile OSes. I do not think we can compare a widget to a Live Tile because of many reasons. So if Live Tiles are crap and it is the best crap on the market, where does that really leave us?

iPhone 4 screenshot

Android Froyo screenshot

Windows Phone Live Tiles screenshot
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
A toast notification is the name of that blue bar which pops up on top of the screen. For example with text me send a message to textme test service close the app after sending, now you will get that bar like you just got an sms but then trough textme (a push notification message).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Freypal:
Thanks for the info!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
So really in that case you would be among the "never had an issue" users. However some users are having problems with live tiles that work on other devices. The recently released WeatherDuck is a good example, works great for some and not at all for others.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vander09:
that will be fixed with NoDo. i have it, and had no problems with updates, all of them installs and once i reopen the marketplace they are not there. so its good
[Windows Phone 7 General] shortbuswillie:
It's probably coincidence, but whenever I have problems with tiles not updating, I use the windows phone website to ring my phone and map its location. Twice this seems to have fixed weatherbug.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
We're not talking about app updates, you haven't read the first post ;).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Did you read my post? Would you mind testing if its due to your carrier? Its know some carriers cause problems to the wp7 push service due to their timeouts. Does a soft reset temp fixes your problem but then revert back in delayed push messages again? Try send to wp7 to test push, now remove your sim and try on wifi only... On just wifi if it will keep working its not your device but its a 3g carrier issue. Wifi and 3g will still cause trouble to wp7 if you have aggresive timeouts on 3g. I see you have tmobile, im not surprise if the use the same tricks as tmobile in holland (on which push does not work reliably)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
I had 48hrs just using wifi (constant from the same source) and the issues remain so it's not t-mobile. I tried both soft and hard reset but that only gets me a couple of tiles working again.

When I first got the phone I had to wait a couple of weeks to have most of the tiles finally working so I'll see if the same happens here.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Did you remove the simcard? 24 hours without a simcard on just wifi? And you have to wake up the screen to receive push since wifi will switch off if your device locks. How about toast notifications? Do they work?

First try to isolate the issue and use an app which can send controlled notifications to test toast messages (tiger text/ text me/ send to wp7)

Send to wp7 even reports the error on which push fails, if your error is failed to establish notification channel your device will go into polling mode...

Please report these errors and we can figure out what the problem is on your side
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
I just read that once you surpass the 15 push limit the errors constant & push stops working... Not sure the validity in that

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[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
OK... Spent the last day over wifi, no sim card. Here's a list of apps that had no live tile/push notfication when they should have:

- ebay

- flixter

- alphajax

- weatherduck

- weatherbug

- tile notes

- smart tile

- my football

In fact only Flickr and currency tile did work. Also tested send to wp7 which works perfectly it seems.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Live tiles work flawlessly for me so far. The only thing that's bugging me is my exchange live tile. It doesn't show new items anymore. To be more detailed about that, non of the implemented notifications work for exchange anymore. They used to, but all of a sudden they stopped working. My other email account on the other hand works like intended. Soft reset didn't help either. Does anybody have an idea what could be the reason why notifications for exchange don't work anymore?
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Just to end this whole regional debate, I installed 17 apps with push notifications (at least) and I broke my push lol. It won't open the channel, though live tiles still work... So its definitely because of the 15 app limit...

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[Windows Phone 7 General] Verkunder:
The tiles that don't seem to work for me are picture tiles (TileR, Flickr, Bing Splash, etc). Everything else seems alright. TWC sometimes hangs, I guess. As does Xbox Live, come to think of it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dccorona:
my weatherbug never worked right...itd only update after I opened the app (it was set to update every 15 mins), so I stopped using it because if I have to open the app anyway, samsungs is more convenient for me
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Oke than we can confirm your device works, you can try to remove the notifications endpoints of each non functioning app
[Windows Phone 7 General] jessiethe3rd:
Livetiles... Had issues here and there in the past (getting them to populate, etc) but I have noticed there is about 3 dependencies; Connection, ability of dev to code right, and devs backend setup with things like Azure. Livetiles aren't cheap to implement... I have seen apps start and use the service for Livetile and realize the cost of the data to provide to be too expensive for them to justify the Livetile.... Some of these apps I have actually paid for only to have the developer stop supporting the app Livetile feature. That got me mad!
[Windows Phone 7 General] brummiesteven:
Official ones work, Marketplace, Zune etc. Beez doesn't seem to want to and neither does MyFootball although I had no issues before I upgraded to Nodo (Well I did but it seemed to fix itself).
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
LiveTiles are still working since I've broken it, but Toast stopped working...

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[Windows Phone 7 General] marSoul:
I have issues with 3rd party apps, htc hub, weatherbug, weather channel, beez, ...

When i install them, usually they work for 3 4 days, after that thay stop working, after nodo update again they start working but just for 4 days !

now none of my 3rd party apps live tiles working !

one intresting thing is that when i tap and hold on htc hub it will show correct weather condition, when i release , it will back to wrong condition !

my device is HTC HD7
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Lol honestly I probably shouldn't have been the guinea pig, I miss my notifications -_-

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