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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twisturandroid:
Not a must

I dont use this feature so i dont see it as a must have thing on my phone. However, it will be a grt plus.
[Atrix 4G General] dkotoric:
Hey I just got my atrix on Thursday and rooted but was reading that the update is supposed to land tomorrow and was just wondering if I need to unroot to install the update.
[Atrix 4G General] yokopol:
no, but you will lose root after update
[Atrix 4G General] Kaaji1359:
I think you have the webtop hack installed it will mess it up though.

Personally, I won't be updating until I can upgrade and get root, titanium backup, setcpu and webtop onto my phone. Not worth losing all of those.

On a side note: to people who are upgrading and losing root: have any of you guys used Google's built-in app backup? How does it work? Can you force it to reinstall apps, etc.?
[Atrix 4G General] dkotoric:
Ya I only rooted and enabled the side loading apps, with the update is there any way to side load apps
[Atrix 4G General] diedemus:
I am going to reflash and do the base sbf -> aroot -> update procedure again tomorrow to make sure I didnt somehow get a legacy copy of the beta earlier and will post back confirming, but with the beta that method worked for keeping sideloading, been using the amazon market on and off all day.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Slurpkins:
Will the Evo Shift ever get an update like Gingerbread, Sense 2.whatever (Desire HD/Inspire/Thunderbolt), or Sense 3 (Evo 3D sense)? Has anyone said that this will or would not happen?
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
Really hoping on it. I don't why HTC shipped this with the older version of sense. Maybe for gingerbread update???
[EVO Shift 4G General] creepdogg:
Some others have hinted that we might wait till after evo3d is released.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Ron Overdrive:
That would make sense (no pun intended :P ). After all the two new flagship products by Sprint are the Nexus S and EVO 3D so they'll want to push Gingerbread as a feature on those phones before they upgrade the Shift. I doubt they'll update the original EVO though. But in the mean time there's always CM7 and the other 3rd party Gingerbread ROMs. :3
[EVO Shift 4G General] e240:
im pretty sure they'll update the original evo. that's one of their most popular phones even today
[EVO Shift 4G General] Ron Overdrive:
I'm pretty sure the EVO 3D will become the new flagship product when its released this summer and over shadow the popularity of the original EVO. Even if the whole 3D thing doesn't take off its still a superior design and you can bet Sprint will be pushing that fact.
[EVO Shift 4G General] pwrmedia:
There's no way that the EVO or EVO Shift won't receive @ least the next 2 O/S updates. The backlash that would result if it doesn't would be ridiculous, even by Sprint standards.
[EVO Shift 4G General] foxsdaddy67:
Thats what they said about the moment too and that didn't turn out well lol
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
Even the Moment got updated from 1.6 to 2.1. It really would be absurd for the Evo Shift to not at get at least one OS update.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Ron Overdrive:
I'm pretty sure the Shift will get the next update or 2 as it came out recently. The EVO has been around a while though and the EVO 3D looks as if its been purposely designed to be the original EVO's successor. From a business standpoint it doesn't make sense to continue long-term support for a device that has been replaced. Its with that in mind that I say I doubt the EVO will get Gingerbread.
[EVO Shift 4G General] EricSS619:
The evo hasn't even been out for a year.... it makes sense to update products in order to keep current customers happy and willing to keep a contract with you.
[EVO Shift 4G General] herbthehammer:
Will there ever be an update? Nah
[EVO Shift 4G General] Slurpkins:
So no? Okay :(
[EVO Shift 4G General] zanderman112:
Yeah, and with googles new 18 month lifetime policy, who knows what the og evo will get.

[sig]Typed by a man standing on a toilet, eating a bacon sammich.[sig]
[EVO Shift 4G General] im.nick.hello:
I really doubt that the Evo Shift will get a major update anytime soon to Gingerbread 2.3.3 or something. But it makes me wonder what Google is going to do with their new Ice Cream Sandwich version that was mentioned at I/O
[EVO Shift 4G General] gtkansan:
There is a leak in the dev section for 2.3.3 gingerbread with sense 2.1. Reupping now if you want to try. Not the first post, read the later ones for a flashable zip.
[EVO Shift 4G General] RickNY1971:
One o fthe things I dont get is why HTC uses some of their own apps, when the Google supplied ones are clearly much better - for example, Gallery versus HTC's Gallery.
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
Clearly to you. Many people disagree. I prefer Goog's but only because of Picasa integration.

^ Shift Faced
[EVO Shift 4G General] im.nick.hello:
finally a (possible) upadate for the shift 4g

head over to android central to see the new gingerbread leak on the evo shift 4g, if this is true then the shift is going to run so much faster with sense 2.1
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
The AC thread about the thread that's already posted here on XDA?

^ Shift Faced
[EVO Shift 4G General] coosawatchie:
gingerbread test version from sprint already available
[EVO Shift 4G General] crump84:
I asked TMartin if I could post his thread over at AC, just trying to let others know.
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
Why? It's already here. Why would we want to go to AC for something that's already here?

^ Shift Faced
[EVO Shift 4G General] crump84:
I just did for the people that don't frequent xda as much as you or me. I took no credit for anything on AC, just simply posted a ROM alert with a link to xda and a few screen shots I took.
[HD2 General] mistapaluza:
My phone will kick itself into a green screen and I will have to do a soft reset or a battery pull. The screen while green is unresponsive and neither are the buttons.
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
Hmmm that sounds odd. Have you considered a hard reset?
[HD2 General] mistapaluza:
I've hard reset, Task 29'd, put 3 different cooked roms on it. Everything.
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
Oh I see well it sounds like you may have a hardware issue. If you still have a warranty I would use it to either get it repaired are replaced. Sorry for your misfortune.
[HD2 General] mistapaluza:
Unfortuantely for me, I recieved this phone secondhand. I did update my radio, which seemes to help.
[Optimus 7 General] sergeb:
Anyone knows if there is a hack to set a different default video resolution for the camera?

It drives me insane that some PMs decided that 640x480 is best for me and don't let me save when I change it to 720p! :(

Thanks in advance!
[Droid X General] claycourtdad:
This is an old issue but I have yet to see a solution. ... how to use the "quick search" global search key on the DroidX to search ALL items including emails. I use touchdown for email and it does a nice job of search including searching server files. Ultimately I would like the search key to search not only emails on the device but also server emails. In other words, replicate the Microsoft Desktop Search function on the laptop such that searching a keyword will 'deep search' all items including past emails etc..
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spursrchamps2007:
Hey guys not the best place to post this but im new to the xda forums. I just switched to the Tbolt and have always posted on droidforums.net for my droid rooting needs so dont have the number of posts to post in the development forum yet.

Anyway one thing I've always tried to do when i can, is do things the hard way. I've been rooting since the G1 on tmob back before clock work existed. I did my droid the original way. And I skipped the one root methods for my Tbolt. Basically on the http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1009876 damf rom link he talks about flashing the kernel using flashboot, or just a normal way. Im curious on the flashbooting though. From what i've read after enabling fastboot through adb its just the issue of writing the correct command in your computer command prompt. I believe the command for a custom kernel is :

fastboot flash boot /path/to/<boot>.img

so basically the command (assuming i put the boot.img file on my C:\drive) would be (fastboot flash boot C:\boot.img) anyway thanks for the help.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nosympathy:
if you downloaded the SDK, ADB will be in platform-tools and fastboot will be in tools, i just moved fastboot too platform-tools.

you need to stick the kernel, which will be boot.img into platform-tools folder.

the command in CMD, is "fastboot flash boot boot.img"

obviously you have to have CMD at an open prompt on that folder, platform-tools.

I usually type "fastboot devices" first, and make sure it sees my phone, then type the above command.

"C:\ASDK\platform-tools>fastboot flash boot boot.img"

for example. I renamed my SDK, ASDK for ease.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tbm48813:
yea, im fuzzy on the whole flashboot thing too, i am looking for a good explanation of it. how i understand it atm is you boot your device in bootloader and tell it to flashboot, there on your computer you fire up adb and can push (dont know if thats the right term for it) your kernel to your device.

but thats only a guess, i still dont get it exactly.

oh and thank you guys for everything this is all awesome work your doing for everyone here! I love this place.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nosympathy:
see my previous post. anything you don't understand after that just ask.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spursrchamps2007:
thanks for the help, i understand these restrictions for new members but this is making it hard to ask specific questions about problems lol. anyway thanks again.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edounn:
I'd like to start a list of programs that work and custimazation tips so that we can all get the most out of our webtop!

Visit this thread to get full Ubuntu working on the webtop:

[MOD] Full Ubuntu on the Atrix (now fully automated)

Before installing or modifying make sure that you don't (or any dependencies) upgrade: (as per Sogarth)

Be careful upgrading any of the -mot/~mot packages, as that can break functionality. I'm still compiling a list of which packages can be upgraded versus which can be left alone.

Can be upgraded with loss of functionality:

libnautilus-extension1-1:2.26.2-0ubuntu1-mot1

nautilus-1:2.26.2-0ubuntu1-mot1

nautilus-data-1:2.26.2-0ubuntu1-mot1

Upgrading these packages plus at least one additional package I've not yet fully identified breaks viewing mountable storage and the ability to unmount it.

xserver-xorg-core-2:1.6.0-0ubuntu14

Using the stock xserver-xorg-core 2:1.6.0-0ubuntu14 that's already installed without recovering /usr/bin/Xorg appears to lead to a loss of the status bar at the top. This particular issue is now handled by the script.

Cannot be upgraded:

gtk2-engines-1:2.18.1-0ubuntu1~mot1

This breaks aiw (Android In Window) so that there's no frame around the window and it can no longer be manipulated in any way.

xscreensaver-5.10-6-motorola1?

xscreensaver-data-5.10-6-motorola1?

xscreensaver-data-extra-5.10-6-motorola1?

This will likely break displaying aiw (Android In Window) as the unlocking mechanism for the screensaver. Still needs to be tested.

Working Ubuntu Apps:

LXTerminal

eog

Pidgin (SOUND! install gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio)

GIMP

gedit

Transmission

gnome-panel (switch between webtop and gnome-session mouse to top of screen)

VLC works (tested MKV video, music a little choppy)

rdesktop

nano

joe

synergy

vnc

axe

lxpanel

openssh-client

AbiWord

Rhythmbox (thread )

xfce4

NOT working:

Open Office
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edounn:
working on gnome-panel issue

but it does have more indepth settings. like display mouse keyboard etc
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dLo GSR:
so you were able to get a higher display res than 1280x768?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edounn:
yes, but this wasnt due to gnome-panel.

i'm currently running at 1280x1024, but only due to limitation of my monitor right now. i get the 1366x768 at the home monitor.

i'm guessing your on an hdtv, doesnt do 1080p yet, so it drops down?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dicksteele:
How'd you get higher res?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edounn:
I see what you'rr asking now. Maybe its because i'm using hdmi to DVI? I haven't done any mod on this. It does it automatically choosing highest resolution. Could be wrong tho.. I can see 720p only being available if your on an hdtv.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joe ferreira:
I was going to do this when I got my dock tomorrow.

I had two concepts of app lists to test.

The Jaunty list from ubuntu

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Ubuntu_Addon_Applications

and the top 100 list

http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/top-100-of-the-best-useful-opensource-applications/
[Atrix 4G Android Development] deangefen:
The rdesktop also working
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the2dcour:
joe, synergy, vnc, axe all work
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nosit1:
Am I able to write to the 'internal' storage. I know we have limited space, but can we write outside of the webtop environment?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dLo GSR:
no, you're right, you do have 1280 x 1024, and it's available to select as your res if you click the display settings (even on an HDTV). it just doesn't help any for HDTVs since it's a non-widescreen res.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bdking2:
Anyone have any luck with moonlight? I have tried but can't get it to work.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] liranc:
You guys think this would be powerful enough to run a Virtual PC program like parallels or virtualbox?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jbe4:
maybe in 2.4 when there is full multi core support, or if that 1.5ghz overclock kernel extension ever comes to fruition. but what you're thinking is exactly what I'm hoping for

if I can get Internet Explorer to work via virtual box or even somehow through IETab in FF via IE running in WINE my life would be complete as the majority of websites I use for work are IE only

I can tell you that the iputils and nmap packages work perfectly, so does John the Ripper along with openssh
[Atrix 4G Android Development] liranc:
I want to buy the Atrix, I'm on an ancient Android(i won't say which to save embarrassment lol). It really seems that it'll be a perfect fit for me especially if they have a virtual PC on it... mainly because of either browser support or having actual Microsoft Office on there

This will probably be one of the most powerful phones for a while so I might as well just get it. The 1GB SDRAM vs 512 of similar dual cores that have come out is a huge plus.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joe ferreira:
I was also thinking of installing virtual box but using windows 7 embedded as it is a much lighter footprint.

I am basically waiting for a CWM fiel that will run on 1.57 gingerblur.

Then I will start messing around with this.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] barry99705:
Pretty sure any of the virtualization apps require an x86 chip.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joe ferreira:
I am afraid you are right about the x86 part....

I will try qemu then :)

http://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...nning-windows-under-the-qemu-emulator-320569/

If it doesn't work with win7 embedded then I will do it with xp embedded.

I want to be the first on youtube with windows running on a nvidia tegra 2 cpu based atrix.

:)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edounn:
Did you guys know that in games if you hold one finger down on the trackpad while in webtop mode, you can press the on screen buttons? I tried it in samurai 2 and dungeon defenders. Its hard to find the buttons but makes games much more playable.

Can someone tell me if this works with the laptop dock?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edounn:
From my research qemu hasn't been ported to arm.

Also windows CE is the only arm windows availible. I don't think it will work on tegra.

I also don't see wine working on arm ubuntu for a long time. Because it will have to emulate x86 for windows stuff.

Windows 8 will support both arm and x86. However, why do that when you have a better os right now. :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] liranc:
A better OS, agreed 100%.

Not always the best OS for business compatibility. A lot of proprietary programs only available on Windows. Even Open Office doesn't have all the features and formatting you might need if you're sending files between MS and Open Office. Now using a remote desktop would cure all of this, but I hate that I can't work when there is no internet connection.

So you guys think it will be quite some time before we see a Virtual Machine on an ARM Ubuntu?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joe ferreira:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMU#ARM

QEMU Wikipedia

Complete Computer System mode emulation

QEMU emulates a full computer system, including a processor and various peripherals. It can be used to provide virtual hosting of several virtual computers on a single computer. QEMU can boot many guest operating systems, including Linux, Solaris, Microsoft Windows, DOS, and BSD [1]; it supports emulating several hardware platforms, including x86, x86-64 (AMD64/Intel 64), ARM, Alpha, ETRAX CRIS, MIPS, MicroBlaze, PowerPC and SPARC.

ARM

QEMU emulates the armv5tej instruction set and all the derivative processors families like ARM7, ARM9E, ARM10E and XScale. It emulates full systems like Integrator/CP board, Versatile baseboard, RealView Emulation baseboard, XScale-based PDAs, Palm Tungsten|E PDA, Nokia N800 and Nokia N810 internet tablets etc. QEMU also powers the Android emulator which is part of the Android SDK (most current Android implementations are ARM based).

here is the link to the instructions on the ubuntu site

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo

Someone else on xda has already done this on the HTC Desire natively without the ubuntu webtop as a buffer.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=692682
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joe ferreira:
Two major issues may come up.....

1. KQEMU compiling issues based on the versions of gcc inside the ubuntu.

2. Network connectivity inside the guest vm may be usable. thsi would defeat the entire purpose what I am talking about.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] n1tro:
If virtualization cant work, what benefits would one have with this setup given the hardware limitation other than saying you can run linux on the phone?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dewt:
Does anyone have a way to get a vnc server running in place of the default x server? I started playing with tightvncserver last week but I had to reflash as I was unable to resolve a text message memory full error every couple of minutes. I had a look at the way the X server is called but I couldn't find the script that adds the -nolisten tcp command line option so it would never let me connect. Any ideas?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joe ferreira:
vnc is used to remotely control a xserver session.

it does not replace xserver.

Are you trying to remote into your phone?

http://www.taranfx.com/remotely-control-android-phone-vnc-server
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dewt:
tightvncserver is its own X server, you can run it by itself, but if the webtop is already running, it opens another X session on the second localhost display, but since its not initiated by a script that also includes launching the rest of the applications that make up the webtop environment, there is nothing to do once you connect to it via vnc. I just want to know which script that is called contains the nolisten tcp command line options so I can figure out how to get it running as a replacement X server.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ytwytw:
I guess chrome OS will be a good start
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevenadeau:
I just installed Ubuntu in my Bell-Atrix, want to use it in phone screen

Hi everybody!

great job for that, I bought that phone cause it's a computer, and it's great to be able to use Ubuntu on it!

I change the dockservice and portalapp too to be able to use it directly in my HDMI screen, GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well, I was thinking it will be great to be able to use Ubuntu directly in the phone screen, cause when going on a trip to latin america, I would like to be able to use my phone as my computer without anything conected to it.

do you think there is a way to activate the dock screen as the main screen?

I was thinking about to buy a rubber keyboard and mini mouse (both bluetooth).

also, the hardfile is of 1GB, is there a way to resize it a little or it's the maximum?

have a nice day!

Steve
[Atrix 4G Android Development] YaPeL:
didn't read the whole thread, but is python working? can someone try to install pylons? this could be my deal breaker to buy this phone...:D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jbe4:
on that note....

http://unplugged.rcrwireless.com/in...s-already-up-and-running-on-arm-architecture/
[Atrix 4G Android Development] krkeegan:
I added the google gears plugin to firefox and enabled offline gmail web access through firefox.

Within a few minutes I received a warning that I was running out of disk space even though I thought I had judiciously selected appropriate items to cache offline.

Rather than try to limit myself even further I poked around and discovered that I could create a folder for gears on the internal "sdcard" and then symbolically link that to the Gears folder within my firefox profile.

I am now able to cache more than 100MB of emails and attachments without causing disk space issues. This enabled me to read and respond to emails recently while on a flight.

Unfortunately the offline gears version of google docs is no more. When it returns it will be HTML5 and likely incompatible with our current firefox build.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] csbd:
Random customization tips, full ubuntu not required.

Window manager theme:

Extract your favorite theme to ~/.themes.

Add an entry to ~/.gconf/apps/metacity/general/%gconf.xml

<entry name="theme" mtime="1301696071" type="string">

<stringvalue>Humanoid-OSX-Black</stringvalue>

If you care to run lxpanel in place of awn, edit /usr/local/bin/start-oshwt-2.sh.

# start OSHWT 2 scripts

#sfalv -i "awn-autostart"

sfalv -i "webtop-panel"

sfalv -i "webtop-wallpaper"

sfalv -i "evbridge"

sfalv -i "lxpanel"

sr-test avahi_start &

I don't care for webtop-panel, but I lose notification of incoming calls without it when aiw is minimized. Still need to sort that out.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joe ferreira:
If we can get qemu running then we can run windows 32 bit(x86) on our arm qemu installation.

This can be inside ubuntu webtop or outside of it. qemu should do this either way.

I am waiting for my hdmi to vga convertor I purchased on ebay to arrive from china (2 weeks to get through us customs) then I will start a new thread on running windows on the atrix.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] :
Has anyone tried to install Eclipse and the Android SDK?

I saw MS bragging about being able to do Win8 development on their phone. We should be able to do Android development on the Atrix, right?

I'll have to try myself when I get some free time this weekend...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] krkeegan:
You can add openssh-client to the list of working software.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edounn:
fixed

ignore
[Atrix 4G Android Development] brunnogama:
Hi guys!

First, thanx for do this on Atrix! It´s realy great.

So, theres any way to install XBMC on it?

I think it would be realy great for who wants a true multimedia workstation.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] brunnogama:
Hi Guys,

I tried to install Chromium throught Synaptic and it´s install, but when I try to open through terminal, I receveid this message:

adas@localhost:/$ ./usr/games/chromium

WARNING: could not read config file (/home/adas/.chromium)

WARNING: could not read score file (/home/adas/.chromium-score)randomizing.SDL initialized.Couldn't set GL mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual

Theres any way to use Chromium on webtop?