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[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
You make a good point about the fail safe, logic would dictate that it would still catch the same threshold. But the possibility of abnormal operation exists because we can't guarantee that the fail safe isn't affected by the voltage changes in some way (it shouldn't run at the same UV as other hardware, but we all know the reputation of Sammy's programmers...). But it is possible that the fail safe doesn't react fast enough for the modified conditions, so while components still won't burn up completely, maybe they can get a little toasted around the edges, if you will. This minor damage would still add up over time until the component did fail... But this is all just a theory based on a small amount of electronics knowledge and the observation that my screen was noticeably warmer while running vision 1.2 with the screen UV - it stands to reason that the RAM UV could have a similar effect
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Guess I'll go back to Vision 1.1 for the meantime. As much as i'd like to be on 1.2 again I just think it would be dumb to risk bricking another phone. The last one I had was a beast and still fell victim to 1.2 after a few days. My recommendation to anyone currently running it would be to leave your settings alone and be happy with what you have. Mine was set pretty aggressively and even had SetCPU running concurrently with it for a couple days. Had a 20 hour day @ 1.4 with moderate usage and figured "looks like I got a Chuck Norris Epic, hey I'll make a screen off profile and see what I can squeeze out of it." After it went to sleep it never woke back up..
[Epic 4G Android Development] itisagoodname:
This should be fairly obvious by now but i want to put it out there again.

BTW, if anyone is looking for absolutely amazing battery life... Enable WiFi if you're around any WiFi networks. This will force data to use a fast, stable data connection over wireless instead of constantly using it over the cell network. Seems the cell radio uses much moar juice than wifi.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Yeah, IIRC it was at 27% after 15 hours with about an hour and a half of screen on time. I was even running SRF non journaled since release and had to do a few battery pulls and never had any data corruption other than Miren Browser having to be reinstalled once. I was sad to see the phone go but so far this one is taking to undervolts and OC's really well with Genocide. However my battery life is pretty crappy and I'm getting a lot of GPU lag but I think this is due to the kernel/rom combo I am running rather than the phone itself. I'm thinking if I were to reinstall 1.2 I'd be back in the game with this phone but I'd rather not risk it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Possibly. Im not too big on the RAM undervolting, that seems like bad news bears. As far as the processor goes...I think we can assume that there is a *slight* possibility, but only when dealing with high overclocks. That, and heat is cumulative and generally spread evenly. I can't see something actually becoming damaged until it has hit a certain barrier, and by that time the whole chip would be at that temperature. I don't know...its possible to say that its only a good idea to OC to 1.4ghz o 1.45ghz so long as you can undervolt it a reasonable amount, thereby preventing excessive heating.

EDIT: its also possible you noticed your screen getting warmer because you were using it more than you normally would ;) which would be a natural reaction to knowing that your screen should draw less power than before :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Well I'm back on VK 1.1 and everything is well again. I'm still reaping the battery saving rewards of 1.2 as I was able to get the Sprint rep at the store to give me a spare battery the had laying around when I brought my phone in yesterday. Winning* thanks Thomas!
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Lol, a logical guess, but the truth us that this is my first smartphone and I'm still in that phase where I use it as much as possible. I've experienced heat from the back of the phone, which was able to radiate through the screen a little, but with Vision 1.2, the screen felt hot, as if it had been in the sun for an hour
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
I seriously can't believe anyone is still running this kernal. Honestly having it still out really is irresponsible. My phone just bricked today with no undervolting, set on conservative, phone was working fine all day, then went to sleep and never woke again.

I've run countless different roms and kernals. Heck, my last phone had issues and couldn't use the USB port and I tried to brick it and couldn't.

When person after person is saying its bricking their phone, it might be time to take notice.

I was stupid, i should have flashed back to another kernal while I had the chance, that was my fault, but if more people had said its bricking the phone instead of saying it must be user error, many people wouldn't be in this situation.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Nobody told you to keep using it. I did remove the download link for a reason...
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Closed on OP request.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Opened at OPs request.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is all
[Epic 4G Android Development] MysteryEmotionz:
Uh oh
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
OK everyone, I'm back to work and actually getting somewhere lol. This time everything is redone with some cool additions and a few things removed, mostly with an emphasis on battery life rather than performance. Expect some good stuff to come shortly :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] darkierawr:
Boosh. Kinda sad about the performence. Vision Kernel was the king of speed. But better battery is always a nice thing to have. I'm one of the few fortunate enough to run smooth and stable at 1.45ghz and ran 1.2 for months without bricking. Can't wait to see the next release!
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
Wheres 1.3 dl link?
[Epic 4G Android Development] gabe2gg:
WIP hes currently working on it now for it to be released sometime soon after testing of course =)
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
Can't wait.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Its a work in progress. I still think 1. 2 was my favorite kernel.

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
Yeehaw.....dude it must x-mas. I knew you weren't done, I'm stoked vision 1.3:eek:.

You know im going to run it;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
I'm glad to see the drama from 1.2 didn't discourage you from continuing your work :)

1.2 just send to have pushed the envelope a little too far for the average phone, but we would never know the true capabilities of our phones if someone didn't exceed them. 1.2 ran great during the week I used it, but I don't have the budget to be on the bleeding edge, so I had to play it safe when the problems started. But I'll be looking forward to trying 1.3 (and sfr 1.1.1) when they're stable and ready :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
The **** is on now, thomas, hit me up for testing too I might be deep in this Nexus but I DO have a epic just laying on my desk ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] dtugg:
I can't wait. If you need another tester, I would be glad to do it. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Weak ass phones. 1.2 is ferocious! But my phone is eeven more beastly!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
I'm still running vision1.2... can't wait for 1.3! =)

*this threads gunna fill up with soo much hype before release watch...lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Who wants moar batteriez? :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
We do! :D

Sent from a truly Epic phone on the XDA Premium app ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Screw the battery, just gimme the damn kernel!
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
I know right been off awhile for now bring it back up in the hype

Hell we all do, thats pretty awesome

1? here: Whats different in 1.2 vs 1.3 because you know those who had issues are gunna *****. So im just curious never had a problem only thing i noticed different was heat i consumed a bit more than if i was on Genocide.
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
I do, I do! Especially since my phone is going down like 2% every five minutes xD'

So a new awesome kernel and me Odining to the EB13 modem should make my battery awesome. :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] JurKZ:
Yes 1.2 fried my phone and yes I will be installing 1.3. Can't wait keep up the good work bro.
[Epic 4G Android Development] krisman:
Won't not so your saying you will.

But seriously I can't wait for this release loved 1.2. Although after 2 weeks with it I started to have constant random reboots. Decided it was time to reformat with odin and use a different kernal, but the time we shared was epic.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
Tease! Teaser!
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
Thomas question about vision 1.1.

I was reading thru SRF thread and noticed someone suggested running ondemand if you are experiencing freezing. Is this true, have I been running this kernel all wrong every time I run it?

1.1 is truly the fastest kernel IMO I've had the pleasure of running, just freezes on me randomly far to often running conservative gov.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Ya on v1.1 the conservative governor was messed up for some reason. Ondemand fixes that so I would recommend using it instead, that is what I did when I was running it.

But conservative is back to normal now, so I'll be including that in the next release set as default.
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
Son of a gun,how did I miss that? I saw that post about 24hrs ago and put it back on bonsai 411. I haven't put it through my complete gauntlet yet, but no issues since flashing and setting it to ondemand. Thanks for clearing that up.....facepalm:o
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Vision KERNEL V1.3 THE REDEEMER!

Sent from my Nexus 4g lyncher!
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
Hey Thomasskull666 will this support the new CWM 3.0.2.5
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
You can guarantee all the dev's next kernel releases to have it supported. =)
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Yessir, it is becoming the new standard
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
I'm really excited for this! My battery drains so quckly even after ODINing the EB13 modem.

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] rhyme187:
hows progress comin and when can i expect to download this bro love your work by the way phenomonal work
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Troll.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
No ETA's, but it's coming :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Can you increase the gpu memory?
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Interesting idea, most likely it would need to be allocated from main memory after boot. I'll look into it but not making any guarantees
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Can you guarantee an increased gpu?
[Epic 4G Android Development] TripleAgent:
Hoping the RNDIS issues of late are worked out, I want to run a new kernel, but I can't go without my Wired Tether.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
I can guarantee I'll try, not that I will succeed :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
RNDIS will be enabled and I have tested it working.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Can you guarantee that you'll have it released with the kernel when its guaranteed to be released?
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Lmao, sure :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Overstew:
I just looked @ the OP and don't see v1.3 yet. Your kernels always had great battery life - I'm confused about *wip* though, and I suspect that is the reason it's not available yet. *wip* = Waiting Impatiently? hahaha
[Epic 4G Android Development] MysteryEmotionz:
Wip = work in progress

Typed from a man on his phone while flying a plane heading towards the samsuck corprate office.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Yessir, it is not finished but being worked on hence work in progress. I should probably just make it say Work in Progress instead lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Thomasskullcrusher....lookin forward to it...WIP it...WIP it good! :-P
[Epic 4G Android Development] darkfire79:
1.2 verdict

What was the final verdict on what was causing the bricking in the 1.2 version?

I've been using 1.3 now without any problems so far. (compiled from GitHub)
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
No final verdict was reached unfortunately, but I have eliminated anything that could have caused param.lfs or SBL corruption. Keep in mind that what you compiled is not final whatsoever, but I'm glad it's running ok for you!
[Epic 4G Android Development] darkfire79:
Oh, I know :) Thank you. The interactive governor so far has been the only issue, as of last night.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Keep an eye on the source, I'll be working on getting interactive stable in the near future.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Xhyperion:
So is it safe to say that 1.2 is safe as long as I don't oc above 1.3? I only oc when playing psx roms for a couple hours then crank it back down. I'm using twilight but I want to use vision 1.2 as long as it doesn't mess up my phone. Or is the problem related to something else?
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Here's the short answer: don't use v1.2
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
Still using 1.2 =P
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Really? Props to you :-) how's battery life? lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] ecooce:
Balls to you... ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] gsrboy171:
ever since i install this kernal. my bluetooth no longer connects to anything. it scans but pick up none of my headsets.

how can i fix it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Flash another kernel until tom releases 1.3? ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
Sorry for late reply...but seriously I've been running ur 1.2 Kernel since you released It. I've flashed it over 20 times as of yesterday. Only feature I don't use is undervolt.

Oh and for battery... well, I'd kiss ur foot for how great it is =P
[Epic 4G Android Development] darkfire79:
I never had a problem with 1.2 either. I did however stop running it when all he thoopla happened.. BUT put it back on after recompiling it with the reverted voltage/clock settings.

I tried to re-add the 1.45Ghz OC option to the 1.3 WIP version, but was unsuccesful. Over my head at the moment. (And really, I guess there's no need for it aside for bragging rights)

.. which reminds me, I should make a donation. :) Thanks for the awesome kernel Thomas!
[Epic 4G Android Development] gabe2gg:
check pm please :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Thanks much for the donation! I would be happy to show you how to add in 1.45ghz if you really want, after doing the uv stuff it isn't as easy as just adding it to the frequency tables.

I'll make a list of names in the op for people who have donated, darkfire79 is the first!

With this recent advancement of team stuff, I'll be working on this kernel under the INC name. Expect something in the near future, I'll be giving stuff to my testers very soon to make sure this thing runs like a champ!
[Epic 4G Android Development] dtugg:
1.2 was amazing for me. I got over five hours of screen time without under volting the cpu. With the reported bricks, though, I could not risk it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
I don't know how much you'll see, but just sent $6.66:D. Looking forward to the future of the 666t kernel.

I can't believe you really only have had, one donor......ahhem 2
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
that's cause kernels are under appreciated =/

people instantly wanna blame the ROM's
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Haha much appreciated! :-)

Keep in mind I love this stuff, it's fun to me lol. I've never really cared that much about donations but I definitely appreciate it, helps buy me cigs to keep the addiction alive XD
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Stop killing brain cells! We need our devs healthy got damnit!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
You guys made my day today, had a pretty stressful one and loved coming home to check my paypal account :-) i'll be up pretty much all night workin on this thing. The weekend yay!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
I soo cant wait for your new kernel >< as or if you remember my phone loves ur 1.2 version =)
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
Do what you do man, above all no rush. Take your time and enjoy building your next masterpiece:cool:
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Now that SRF is over are you going to move on to a new Epic rom? Is the current one optimized for any other roms at the moment? ACS is all I've known since Froyo became public. I just sent you $6.66 Thanks for all your hard work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
This kernel was never meant to be "SRF" specific. I used 1.2 on bonsai,SRF,simply AOSP, and midnight. worked great on all of them. (worked best on simply aosp, wtf? lol)
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Appreciate it :-) Like Shoulon said in the quote below, it was always designed to be used on any ROM but with an emphasis on SRF considering that's what I test(ed) it on. Despite recent developments I'll still be using SRF 1.1.0 to test on just for the fact that I know it and it works just fine. Once something bigger and better comes out I'll start using it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Crazy but any other kernel I use my battery just dies like.....yea it dies. Guess I'm stuck with 1.2 until 1.3 is released!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
I still use 1.2 every now and then. I just flashed a new rom so o lost it and I haven't got around to refladhing it yet but I've been using it for the most part since its release at 100/1450. Battery is pretty good. 1450 is pretty high so it does affect battery. It just runs so fast and snappy. Its mu favorite kernel of all time. My phone runs at 1.45 with ni lockups or anything. I'd love to try 1.5 on my phone. It is a beast. Can't wait to try out your new work.

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
voodoo driver v9? =D

Edit: oh and thomas gimme ur internets speed! =P
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
Release the 1.3 already! Some of us want it badly. Hehe
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Patience my young padowan, do you want a final product or a half baked jumble of code?

If you REALLY can't wait you can build it from my source if you know how, I know at least one person has done so already. Sit tight, life comes first then kernels.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Sprintguy1376:
Hey! I've searched around to see if you've addressed this already, but I can't seem to find it.

I'm just wondering if the screen undervolt will be present in his kernel? You'd certainly be my hero.

Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yes, I think it will be :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Sprintguy1376:
That just absolutely made my day while instantly reducing my patience.

As Bart Scott would say: CAN'T WAIT!
[Epic 4G Android Development] ThrasherJKL:
will this be compatible with the new SRF 1.1.1?? i feel like playing around with different kerns =P
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yes it will be :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] gabe2gg:
I just tried 1.2 and 1.3(WIP) on SFR 1.1.1, they both work fine

I am currently using 1.2, hopefully my epic doesnt brick lol( yes I know about 1.2 problems)
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
How did u get 1.3?
[Epic 4G Android Development] gabe2gg:
Complied it from github
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Make sure you git checkout the test branch, that is where the majority of the action is currently taking place. Smartass governor ftw!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] gabe2gg:
But I love 1.2 lol. I hope 1.3 has great battery life compared to 1.2.

Brb compiling new build of 1.3 on my 3.2 ghz p4 processor lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Oh man, can't wait for 1.3. I love testing kernels just as much as a new ROM and seeing as I am on a rock solid ROM now, I hope I am still in the tester loop...
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
I am happy to announce that tomorrow is RC time! Testers keep an eye out, I'll be in touch through pm or gtalk or irc.

EDIT: ^ John, check your pm's at some point tomorrow we'll be in contact.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Oh hell yeah!
[Epic 4G Android Development] quickstang:
thomas.... can we flash the download zip on the git site for testing purposes and be good to go, or will that 121mb zip not work right if I just flash from CWM?

Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rudyblah:
No. That zip is not a flashable. The kernel needs to be compiled first
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
+1

Kernel = ROM
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I will test if you theoretically fixed all of the bricks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] quickstang:
Ok, thanks for the info
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Oops...I have a feeling that Vision will be making a strong comeback.;-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] iSaint:
I have a feeling that you have a good feeling :D ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Feeling good..;-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
What I'm eventually going to do:

Run SRF 1.1.1 w/ Vision Kernel 1.3 using the EE03 modem = OMGAOSFJKLSDFJA
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
LOL nice

"Hey Thomasskull666"

- Do you think you guys would be able to whip this out around before the month ends or, are you guys not that far into it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] aigoo:
Used 1.1 and loved it until i upgraded to srf 1.1.1.

just out of curiosity what are the main differences between the Twilight zone and vision kernels? They're both designed for SRF, and vision is based off of TZ right?

Just wondering the reasoning behind vision kernel. Don't get me wrong, i loved using your kernel with srf 1.1.0, and i'm looking forward to 1.3. Just being curious!
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Always wanted to say this...Rule 1...don't ask for E.T.A'S. But in all seriousness thomasskull and his testers are going to do some thorough testing to make sure there aren't any major hiccups or anything. As for what features it will include..that's only for him to say.
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
im not really asking for an ETA im just asking if its coming out this month since were close to June(8 Days).
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Different devs have different ideas on what frequencies or stages to run and also what little tweaks they come up with to add in. There is a lot that goes into development most of it is still way over my head. Some kernels just run better with certain ROMs based on how they are developed
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Excellent question really, v1.3 is no longer based on Twilight Zone, it is built from the ground up using stock EC05 source. It does however contain many of the same modifications, so I guess you could say it is based around TZ rather than on it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Honestly, that depends on how the testing goes and if thomasskull decides to include any last minute changes or adjustments. Sorry, it just isn't a question that can have a definate answer.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Exactly, very well said.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
How fid the gpu memory stuff work out?