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[Android Apps and Games] firozpatel:
I have downloaded other apps that require root and they work and access root permissions

I have applied some screenshots for everything in relation to what I am currently running

I keep get a message regarding root shown on picture (overview on SD maid) and this message comes up on every option on SD maid

SD maid is not listed in MM

yes I used the uninstaller and then installed magisk v 17.2

I have have xxx nolimits 2.9.6 ROM installed (magisk ROM for OnePlus 6)

The kernel I'm using is elemental x
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
At this point, I'm out and most likely other users of XDA, too - but certainly all RCs!

You are using L**cky P@tcher!

Please refer to this post by @xanthrax: "What exactly is Lucky Patcher?"

Just a brief quotation out of no. 6 of the Forum Rules:
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
@Dark3n - Matthias: Just a question for me to learn, and it's related to my post directly above; but I'm aware the answer might be confidential and probably not been answered. And I recognise that the concerned screenshot has been removed from the post, to which I referred to in my post.

Did you implement a feature to allow SD Maid to recognise such tools as mentioned in the other post and in turn not to provide all functionalities? If affirmative, this might be interesting as probably some issues report as bugs could be tied to warez. As an example, I know that Substratum does something similar with blacklisted apk's to prevent theme launching (https://github.com/substratum/templ...ubstratum/theme/template/ThemerConstants.java).
[Android Apps and Games] Aciong.Aksaya:
Been satisfied with this app for almost a year. Yesterday, I finally bought the unlocker.

Kudos to devs!
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
@Dark3n - Matthias: I haven't read anything by you recently in this thread, but I installed v4.11.10 yesterday. Therefore I gladfully know you're fine but I assume pretty busy, too.

Please allow me a question in regard to the CorpseFinder (connected with the Uninstall Watch) due to this pretty interesting post at "Bloomberg Businessweek" of 22-OCT-2018:

Now Apps Can Track You Even After You Uninstall Them

New trackers make it easy for developers to identify fed-up users and pester them with targeted ads.

There's also a German speaking post about it available at mobilesicher.de: https://mobilsicher.de/aktuelles/apps-kommunizieren-mit-nutzern-auch-wenn-sie-deinstalliert-sind

Is SD Maid capable to cater for these "uninstall tracker"?

Last but not least: Any information avaibable regarding my question here?
[Android Apps and Games] bontxa:
Just a question about this app: Is It possible to manage boot startup of system apps? I mean, wake up apps only when i need It?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] kvevand63:
Yes. Go to Settings/General/Show Hide tabs. Enable App Control. Then go to Settings/App Control and enable wichever options you select. Close and reopen SDMaid. In your main menu you will see the tab for App Control. Open it and it will scan your apps. Select app and you will see the available options there.
[Android Apps and Games] KOLIOSIS:
That's a root only function,correct?
[Android Apps and Games] kvevand63:
I believe so.
[Android Apps and Games] KOLIOSIS:
Yeah,just wanted to verify for the person you're helping out.

The toggles are there,but,you get a toast notification stating its a root-required function when you do not have root.

Just one of the many awesome features of this app,it's the 1st one I set up w/a new phone & as soon as I do root,it's the 1st thing I set up,including the start-up on boot on a per app basis.

Kudos to [MENTION=608746]Dark3n[/MENTION] ! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] Cuma Orang Biasa:
Good work for my old device, Lenovo A6000 Special Edition with AOSP ROM TEAM LEGACY

Thanks a lot :good:
[Android Apps and Games] sandeep2011k@gmail.com:
Is there any way to grant permissions via adb that usually requires root, if yes please give me instructions.
[Android Apps and Games] gothicVI:
What permissions? What is it you want to archive?

Gesendet von meinem Moto G (5) Plus mit Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] patrickdrd:
cache cleaning which needs root maybe?
[Android Apps and Games] sandeep2011k@gmail.com:
These permissions
[Android Apps and Games] gothicVI:
You have to root your phone...
[Android Apps and Games] sandeep2011k@gmail.com:
I know that root will grant those permissions, but I don't wanna root because it will trip my Knox. So I am searching other ways to grant permission to sdmaid through adb.

I don't have any idea on adb so I am here for answers.
[Android Apps and Games] Hippie459MN:
To be honest, who cares if you trip knox or not. It doesnt remove any functionality from your phone what so ever. All it does is tells them you rooted/modified your phone if you need to replace it or have warranty work done to it and that is it. Unless your phone is still under warranty or something, but even then, I am personally not worried about it what so ever. My Galaxy S5, I hadnt even had it 5 minutes and I rooted it and its still working perfectly fine 3 years later. I have rooted other samsung devices since as well and not one issue. Just no .02 cents. Root away man, thats the only way you are going to get root permissions, without root, it will never happen!
[Android Apps and Games] sandeep2011k@gmail.com:
Well my device is one month old , and many Samsung apps won't work in rooted phone once Knox is tripped. Samsung pay won't work and even the damn shealth won't work too:crying:
[Android Apps and Games] spawnlives:
Well the short answer is going to be no. Adb will not work the only way to have full functionality for sd maid is to root your phone. As for tripping your Knox you will do that before you even get to the rooting stage anyway.
[Android Apps and Games] Hippie459MN:
I have never had an app not work due to being rooted or tripping Knox, then again, I dont use any of Samsungs apps (I delete them all off my phone if I can and the ones still there work just fine) or use any Android or Samsung Pay. I carry cash or use my debit/credit card to pay for stuff at the store. Personally, I wont own a device I cant root. Heck, even the head unit in my truck is rooted.

As stated, ADB will not get you anywhere, to get full use of SD Maid, you will need to root your phone, otherwise you will just have to take what you can get without root.
[Android Apps and Games] hyborian:
How do you do that ? I don't see any options under AppControl to control/change boot start up ...
[Android Apps and Games] KOLIOSIS:
Pick an app & tap on receiver manager.

You'll see the various toggles, tap on the 3-dot menu while you're there to see all of them.

If I'm not mistaken, this gives the option of which activities within an app can run on start up or not.
[Android Apps and Games] hyborian:
Ok, I always wondered what that Receiver Manager is. After tapping it for a specific app that is not started at boot, there is no option to change it to start at boot, even with the 3 dots.

If I click on an app that was already started at boot, there are 1 or 2 lines that show ... BootReceiver ... , with BOOT_COMPLETED shown under the lines. and can be toggled on and off. Toggling these OFF will stop them from starting at BOOT.

It's ok, I use 3C Toolbox Pro to manage my boot startups, but knowing about this is good.
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
@Dark3n - Matthias: I know you're quite busy and I apologise for bothering you. Any information regarding my post here?
[Android Apps and Games] hyborian:
Thanks for the reply and wiki link !
[Android Apps and Games] The Analog Kid:
Alright; just tried deleting a system app (nasty carrier preinstaled app) and SD Maid apparently succeeds easily; however after reboot, app remains. Trying the same procedure through Apps2SD, it prompts you that in order to proceed, system partition must be modified because systemless root is detected. Since SD Maid doesn't prompt the same, I thought it would go straight to perform deletion without the need to modify system partition or somehow modifying it automatically. Point is, I guess that if system partition modification is required, SD Maid should let us know as well, so we won't get caught by surprise and feel disappointed. On the other hand, I must confess I can't find the nerve to modify system partition having Magisk and Xposed and a few other systemless things installed; it simply sounds like something weird could happen. I'm yet to ask this in Apps2SD thread, but probably I can get clarification here on what could happen or what should we expect if we modify system partition while being systemless rooted...
[Android Apps and Games] KOLIOSIS:
Does simply disabling (vs uninstalling) stick w/this particular system app that you're having issues with?

Just curious as IIRC,I ran across a similar instance with a Huawei device to where the (I believe) security app,or,some related Huawei bloat,wouldn't uninstall.

However,I was able to disable it...................
[Android Apps and Games] The Analog Kid:
Well, dissabled it was already. It's one out of four (already dissabled too) carrier preinstaled apps that I have this itch to get rid of. You know, "dissabled" does not equal "uninstalled"; so the only issue they're causing is that their presence just keeps bothering me like hell; they are taking like 100MB of space and that is not nice. Probably I'm not dying to get those 100MB back for more useful tasks, but point is, SD Maid can't get rid of them (and probably a bunch of other system apps, just tried with one as a test) and I'm not sure why. Just want to get some clarification about the subject cause I've noticed this is not new just by reading a lot of similar issues across this thread... since about six years ago.
[Android Apps and Games] KOLIOSIS:
Have you tried using the ADB method,just to see what happens?

TBH,IDK if the ADB & SD Maid/root uninstall are comparing apples to apples or,that close to it.

I know it's not exactly "deleting",as a factory reset will bring everything back,but,if doing so puts things in a brickloop,I'm guessing it'd be easier to recover from that if things go south.
[Android Apps and Games] The Analog Kid:
Not really willing to do that. Not if I have four different apps with supposed ability to get rid of system apps! I must find answer to my original question first. Since most of today's rooting became systemless, that's the whole important point here, because where are we if we can't safely use some handy in app tools due to systemless? I guess once I know the facts, then I would decide how to proceed. That's in case I'm still into getting rid of stuff. Thanks for the suggestions anyway.
[Android Apps and Games] mroneeyedboh:
[MENTION=608746]Dark3n[/MENTION] I had a question pertaining to the Receiver Manager, Autostarts and the Other option... If I dont want this particular app to start up whne the phone is booted, should I turn off ALL green ticks under that app INCLUDING the green ticks under "other"? Or do I only need to turn off the ones that say "Boot_Completed" to effectively stop it from auto starting?
[Android Apps and Games] DB126:
I'll chime in with a generic response that is applicable to all such queries: it depends on the app. Many (arguably most) apps have multiple triggers that can initiate some form of activity. Simply flipping on a radio or installing something from the Play Store can launch an app. You really have to monitor behavior and wake-up paths before deciding which receivers to disable.
[Android Apps and Games] mroneeyedboh:
[MENTION=608746]Dark3n[/MENTION] Would disabling the autostart/boot when the phone is turned on help with battery life? I dont use my apps all the time, so I dont need them to boot when I turn the phone on.. Or is that not helping much at all.

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
From my personal point of view, every running application consumes energy - one more, one less. But it's the nature of the beast!

Personally, I really enjoy that SD Maid provides insight to the broadcast receivers that trigger a launch at boot and the capability to disable the receiver. However, for this purpose I usually use a different tool ("MyAndroidTools Pro"), mainly because it allows me to also control other broadcast receiver, services (generally I disable e.g. all services related to analytics or telemetry - b.t.w. SD Maid is my one and only exception in this matter, also because I absolutely trust Matthias [@Dark3n]), activities and shared preferences. Additionally there're tools available to indicate the (user and system) processes that are running including the capability to close them. For this purpose I use "Elixir 2" that provides me the number of running processes on my homescreen. As soon as I monitor something unexpected I'm able to dig into more details and to react in turn.

TL;DR: Yes, I'm convinced it enhances battery duration.
[Android Apps and Games] mroneeyedboh:
How do you know something is related to telemetrics. Is it obvious by the name of the package/autostart

I'd you disable these analytics or others, will it cause wakelocks? Since it'll be trying to receive/send them.?
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
I think it becomes off-topic in this thread, which I don't want to clutter. However, you're welcome to coninue the discussion in one of my respective threads (e.g. here).

Briefly: Yes, more or less and suspicion if e.g. Google is part of the name. And negative.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
I've expanded the wiki a bit on this topic:

https://github.com/d4rken/sdmaid-public/wiki/AppControl#receiver-manager-autostart

TL;DR Would it help battery life? Probably not noticeably unless you have a collection of very ****ty apps.

SD Maid has no limits on receivers, did you check the "Show others" option? I've thought about adding the same functionality for service, I'm just not sure if there is demand as it's even more specific then enabling/disabling receivers. In terms of code it's basically the same.

Theoretically it can. You could acquire a wakelock that should be released by a service that is disabled.

But in practice this pattern is coded by using a WakefulBroadcasterReceiver which doesn't acquire the wakelock if the service doesn't launch.
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
Excellent amendment of the Wiki. The different items are elaborated very well including the distinction between broadcast receivers, intents and services.

Just my personal best practise: I've disabled the "BootReceiver" for all applications that don't require it (e.g. AFWall+), and I've never experienced any issues. Just for completeness I attached my last "BetterBatteryStats (BBS)" idle dump I took four days ago. I'm very satisfied with a battery loss of 0.4%/hour over a total of slightly more than nine hours with network connection; quite a few applications are neither battrey optimised (please refer to last two screenshots) nor "greenified". If interested in a few more BBS idle dumps (timeframe 19 Nov - 13 Dec) please refer to this post.

You are absolutely right. Shame on me especially as the Wiki clearly states it. Show others were disabled. I attached screenshots how it appears for "FAZ.net" in MAT and SD Maid, latter with "show others" disabled and enabled. And just for completeness in regard to the discussion above, I also attached a screenshot as an example, which services I've disabled for "FAZ.net". Usually I don't install applications with such an amount of analytics/trackers implemented.

Matthias, thanks again for allowing me to learn something new, today.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Hm the receiver names being cut off in SD Maid is unfortunate, we should just let it expand.

Someone care to make a ticket for this?

Maybe automatically check "others" if otherwise no receivers would be shown, though that could be confusing...
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
I'll do within the next hours but certainly today.:good:

@Dark3n: Matthias, accomplished!
[Android Apps and Games] mroneeyedboh:
So I could disable all receivers pretty much no matter what the app? Or stick with personal apps only and not factory ones?

Lastly, could you give me words to look for , besides receiver that I could disable?
[Android Apps and Games] umeshchamara:
Can I exclude folders from just empty folder delete function and not from others ? I have few apps that I changed their download locations direct to the custom folder inside the download folder but sometimes those folders are empty but sometimes it contains files that i want and cache files which i want to get cleaned by sd maid. Sometimes when those folders were empty and i ran the sd maid those folders are getting deleted by sd maid causing to app settings get default to their default locations. I'm really appreciate if anyone can point me the settings if it's already implemented. Thanks in advance
[Android Apps and Games] Vagelis1608:
Exclude the ones you want to keep. The little pin on top right.

Add custom filters for the ones you want to delete.

You might also want to check out SD Maid's documentation, for more info.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
:DI see 2 options:

1: Caches are deleted by the AppCleaner and empty dirs by the SystemCleaner, you can create an exclusion just for the SystemCleaner.

2: You create your own custom filter for the SystemCleaner that deletes empty directories, but tell it not to contain A, B and C in the path (with ABC being your custom dirs).

edit: Vagelis was quicker :D :good:
[Android Apps and Games] umeshchamara:
I just want to exclude specific folders in my internal storage from empty folder deletion and let other clean up operations to run on those folders. If i exclude system cleaner for those folders then it'll ignore the other operations for those folders, am i right ?? If so can you help me to setup the second option, I just go through the guide but I'm really scared to mess with SDmaid settings :D
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
Issue solved in v4.13.0 BETA.:good: Thanks a lot!:D
[Android Apps and Games] hyborian:
I just installed a custom ROM, AOSP Pie on one of my phones. When I go to App Control, it first shows the list of apps as usual. When I select an app so I can disable a BOOT receiver, I am able to do it, but after doing it, it just throws me out back to App Control rebuilding the whole list again. Normally, it should just stay in the same screen until I get out myself.

I am just wondering if this is an issue under Pie, or is it the custom ROM ? Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
I've no experiences with Pie but always using SD Maid Pro only on custom ROMs (and rooted), and I've never experienced the described behaviour.
[Android Apps and Games] xdauser013:
[MENTION=608746]Dark3n[/MENTION] It seems the Unistall watcher don't work on huawei mate 10 android 9 (not rooted), both actually last stable and last beta.
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
Please consider to support @Dark3n to fix the issue by following his request how to report a bug. I suggest to include the advanced report.

https://github.com/d4rken/sdmaid-public/wiki/Reporting-a-bug
[Android Apps and Games] hyborian:
Thanks, I just installed another PIE custom ROM, AICP, and it's ok. So the problem was with the custom ROM I used earlier.
[Android Apps and Games] RyQril:
Hey guys.. I have been having this weird problem with application control where the frozen apps stays frozen even if i try to delete/unfreeze... I tried to reset the app, delete, clean flash of the rom and these apps stays on the list.. I cant run them either.. Can someone advise?
[Android Apps and Games] KOLIOSIS:
After Nougat the Android System Webview is included in the Chrome app so the old app stays disabled until you disable Chrome.

As for the rest of the apps,IDK.

If you're running a custom ROM, perhaps the Developer has some answers.
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
Hi... How can someone... Ok, I start again: How can we know? Brief hint: https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s3/help-i9305/how-to-how-to-best-phrase-request-to-t3404880

But now seriously, just follow this procedure, and I'm convinced you'll receive the requested support. Currently, no way with the zero information you've provided.
[Android Apps and Games] RyQril:
Hahahaha oh man, i know what you're saying and i understand, but don't you think it's better to make this as a general question to ask the public if this problem is common or existed w/ a workaround solution before i get the devs involved? Now i understand it might be a custom rom problem but why SD Maid can't git rid of it?

S9+, Soldier v14 Pie rom, stock kernel, latest Magisk, latest sdmaid/unlocker version, no xposed.

I'll follow the links and maybe add the issue.. Thank you guys.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
With SD Maid Beta v4.13.1 it is now possible to upgrade to SD Maid Pro without Google by purchasing it via https://apps.darken.eu. The site is also in beta, but it already works. I plan to eventually offer other apps of mine through this and possibly open-source the whole stack to allow other developers to use this for their apps too. A little bit more independency from Google would be good for the Android community.

The website may occasionally be down for updates. Still have to consolidate a few pages and move SD Maid's downloads there too. I'm also working on an update system so users without Google on their ROMs don't have to manually check for updates. Translations are also coming and I'm working on a few more payment methods.

There a few thoughts about pricing, costs and other aspects written down in this post if anyone is interested:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sdmaid/comments/ai0slu/sd_maid_v4131/
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
Matthias, excellent idea. I always and completely support every effort to reduce or limit Google's influence. However, I assume that SD Maid is supposed to remain available on the Google Play Store (GPS), even if it's only for the reason to have an extended range and to reach a larger community as many - if not the most - don't care about Google's pestilence to overtly and covertly collect data. If you intend to remain on GPS, please be careful that SD Maid doesn't get banned due to links in the app or the GPS description to the alternate donation possibilities. This happened e.g. to Andreas Schildbach with my favourite public transportation application "Öffi" as I reported here (lower half of the post), or to the highly recognised and privacy oriented developer M66B with his application Netguard (my report here). Marcel assumed that "it seems the links to GitHub, which were never accessible from the Play store version, were the problem."

Although you and SD Maid already have highest reputations in the XDA community, probably it can even be enhanced by going for open-source. I guess you've to assess and ponder the pro's and con's. Personally, I know there're quite a few of closed source applications around (incl. SD Maid) that aren't evil at all. If you e.g. at M66B's products, some of them are open-source, some close-source (I trust them all) for good and decent reasons. Finally, if you actually make SD Maid open-source please consider to alternatively, additionally provide it through F-Droid.