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[General Accessories] einradlui:
Rgs08096016bw001

Hey guys! This may be a solution.

Does the RGS08096016BW001 also work?

Whats the difference between the RGS08096016BW001 and your RGS08096016B001 Display?

I hope we can solve the problem.
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
Just for the record: The OLED-PM084MB is not compatible!

"RGS08096016BW001" sounds promising. Where can I buy it? I would test it! :D
[General Accessories] einradlui:
i found it on alibaba. (can't post the link here!)

Unfortunately it is not available.

Maybe we can find it somewhere else!
[General Accessories] apetroczi:
Now it is avaliable.

While I have a classic edition with originally white Oled, I wonder if RGC08096016WW002 or RGS08096016WW000 will works, or not? Both are available on Alibaba.

Is there anybody here from Hungary, who has the ability to change the display? I am totally inexpert in soldering such a tiny things....
[General Accessories] Egorich_dachniy:
Only RGS08096016BW001 has driver 1300. I'm not sure about the rest.
[General Accessories] Egorich_dachniy:
Dear : egorich_dachniy

Thank you very much for your inquiry!

As your requirement, quotation as below, pls check

RGS08096016BW001 RITDI RITDI 12+ 1PCS 120$/PCS

We supply the goods are new and original with our best quality warranty.

If you don’t mind our quotation , please tell me your target price

We’ll to do the best service for you.

Waiting for your feedback !

Best Regards!!

Tev Electronics Co., Limited

Sales Manager: Wendy Gao

Skype:ic.sales888

QQ:3179191490

Tel: 0086-755-33134850

E-mail:tticdz@vip.163.com

Address: Room 19H BlockA DouHui Building Huaqiang North FuTian District Shenzhen China 518000

one display cost 120 $ ?
[General Accessories] fistsbs:
I have Sony Ericsson MBW-150 watch what needs new Oled display

where can i order one form?
[General Accessories] yrawna:
Enquiry

Dear : egorich_dachniy

i m interested to buy some components from TEV ELECTRONICS CO. LTD

Please share your experience for having business with Tev Electronics Co., Limited

Sales Manager: Wendy Gao

Skype:ic.sales888

QQ:3179191490

Tel: 0086-755-33134850

E-mail:tticdz@vip.163.com

Address: Room 19H BlockA DouHui Building Huaqiang North FuTian District Shenzhen China 518000

Regards

Anwar

yrawna@yahoo.com
[General Accessories] Szenky:
Helló, Ha sikerül vennünk valahonnan kijelzőt, én gond nélkül be tudom majd építeni neked.
[General Accessories] geritch:
Привет!

Какой аккумулятор подходит, lir2430 или lir2032?

Hi!

Which battery suitable, lir2430 or lir2032?
[General Accessories] apetroczi:
As it seems RitDisplay oleds with SSD1300 driver chip are discontinued products, we should try to find other possibilities.

Have anybody tried Visionox VGM096016A0B01 (M00101) or VGM096016A0W01 (M00100)?

They both have SSD1308TR1 driver chip instead of SSD1300, but 31 pin 6800/8080 8 bit interface.
[General Accessories] petroczi:
Meanwhile I realized, that Visionox VGM096016A0B01 (M00101) is the same as OLED-PM084MB...

And Cyberdyne wrote earlier:

Just for the record: The OLED-PM084MB is not compatible!

:(

---------- Post added at 10:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:07 AM ----------

I managed to get contact with Wendy Gao quoted earlier.

Does anybody do real business with him?

He gave me a deal for:

RGC08096016WW002 RITDI bit 0.84" 06+ 13.5$/PCS 10PCS + 40$ shipping cost.

This is 175 bucks for 10 pcs of oled, but with direct fund transfer towards China, which is insecure (They have no paypal acc)

And I wonder...

RGC08096016WW002 has SSD1300 driver according its datasheet , but its not 100% it will work in MBW 150

Additionally it seems too risky to send money with direct fund transfer to china...
[General Accessories] bonio89:
Hello,

Did someone find working oled?

Where can i find datasheet of original oled?

BTW maybe we can develop new PCB and build new smartwatch in old case like retro watch?
[General Accessories] bmac1961:
I have mailed Jotrin electronics in Hong Kong, as they still have RGS08096016BW001 listed. Will check with them for availability and price (or possible alternatives). Don't know whether anyone else has tried them so far. They might not even answer though!
[General Accessories] supersonic64126:
You guys are the best...I love XDA forums and I admire everyone's spirit here trying to bring this MBW-150 back to life. I loved my MBW-150 Executive...gave me the basic functionality of a smartwatch without losing the "jewelry" aspect. But I think I'm ready to throw in the towel. Been hanging on to mine all this time, faded display. If anyone is interested for "experimentation" purposes or parts / watch band, my wife put it on eBay for me. I haven't worn it for years, but I just don't have the time or patience to try to swap the display out myself, and I'd probably break it anyway. Link below:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=262146340940&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

I hope it goes to a good home...and I wish you guys the best of luck bringing this fabulous, unique, and overlooked timepiece back to life!
[General Accessories] abhishek.hitman:
I do not think looking for the OLED is the solution at this moment after the displays have been long gone out of production. Why don't we think of modifying the firmware so that we can install a newer model OLED display in the watch?

This has been done before on some paint ball gun as i've read in some of the applicable forums which used the same SSD1300T I2C driver and the firmware was modified so as to use the new OLED displays.

Why don't we look for this option? Can the watch firmware not be accessed by any means and modified by anyone in this expert community?

---------- Post added at 05:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:09 AM ----------

All the MBW watches have 4 pins on the back, 2 of which are used while charging. I'm quite sure that the other 2 definitely is for some purpose. Can anyone with good knowledge about bluetooth (system on chip) SOC boards chime in on this? How do we access the internal chip firmware? I can give the details of the chip if required. I guess its a philips BGB203 SOC.
[General Accessories] mandibula:
head shot !!!!
[General Accessories] marcimix:
Guys, what do you think about that watch:

http://aliexpress.com/item/iMacwear..._8&btsid=ccd2c865-76dd-4463-a477-66ec78467d2c?
[General Accessories] trulysemi:
[MENTION=3668186]netstat_EVO[/MENTION] [MENTION=546635]JimSmith94[/MENTION] et al,

I am a rep from Truly Semiconductors and I was wondering if you guys are still looking for the display or may no longer have any interest in the project considering the advancement in wearables on the market.

If people are still looking for a display replacement, I may be able to develop something for you guys.

While we manufacture the OLED panel and do the bonding, the SSD1300(?) IC used in your display is obsolete and we would need to change that out.

If the response is not ideal then I guess we can all move on....
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
I can't speak for the others, but after having three of these watches and all of the displays going bad, even the one I never used but was saving for a spare, I tossed them all and have moved on to Android Wear watches. I appreciate the offer though, but for me it's just too late.
[General Accessories] mandibula:
It will be great. I have 3 watches with a dead display, and I want to fix them. I wait for a solution for many years.
[General Accessories] Cyberdyne:
I am very interested! I still have my watches (3 versions) in use as a watch only.

I tried some other smartwatches (Metawatch, Cogito Classic and G Watch R) but they look so bad!

Please keep us informed!
[General Accessories] CZroe:
I still want to fix mine! I do a lot of electronics repair work and the only thing stopping me is not having the part. :(
[General Accessories] onyxus:
I'd still be interessted as well.
[General Accessories] fiveseven808:
Wondering what the status is on the displays? I don't think it's SSD1300 since I believe the connector comes out from the bottom of the display and has more pins.
[General Accessories] J-Kos:
Hello,

I would like to ask those of you, that have successfully replaced the OLED display. How long did the new OLED last for? Did it dim out soon, or did it last longer than the original one? I mean, is it worth replacing it?
[General Accessories] mandibula:
I have some pictures of my mbw 100. Internals. Of 31 pins, seems that only 14 are connected.
[General Accessories] CornholioGSM:
Hello, dou you know which communicating interface is used on these mbw watches? SSD1300 can use Parallel and SPI interface, SSD1303 (tested by me in mbw150 - picture was mirrored) use SPI/Parallel/i2C and SSD1306 interfaces are same as on 1303. New displays 96x16 uses ssd1306 with limited pinouts only to i2c.

Inside MBW-XXX watches is same ic - Philips/NXP BGB203xxxxx. This ic use for communicating I2C...BUT original display with 1300 does not have I2C...so how is it possible?

OR can be this original be connected via GPIO?
[General Accessories] CornholioGSM:
...this is interesting. I have found wiring diagram of original Ritdi display with SSD1300. It looks like it is really connected via i2c...BUT again after measuring on mbw-150 mainboard are both data ways connected to GPIO pins of bgb203 and not to i2c.

It is hard...i will risk it and i will test to connect chinese display directly with wires :)
[General Accessories] CornholioGSM:
edit...power source for new lcd done :)
[General Accessories] CornholioGSM:
...some wiring and testing today.

Now i have connected Pictiva Oled with ssd1303.

This display is connected from another side so is needed some wiring, cutting and modding :)

I have tested it on mbw-150 and on mbw-100. On both i got picture.

On MBW-150 is picture mirrored...display glass is littlebit larger and is impossible to put in inside watch body.

On MBW-100 was needed to add capacitor between RST pin and ground. Picture is upside down and is littlebit shifted (approx 3-4pixels)...but inside watch body is space for it.

Soo is still needed to read and edit firmware from BGB203 IC. I know that this ic uses for communicating rs232...but i need help how to connect and read it :(
[General Accessories] merafly:
Wooooooow!! amazing job
[General Accessories] Anna L Rivera:
Same problem here I stop using it now it is collecting dust if anyone interested to buy my mbw-150 executive edition contact me I wanna sell it.
[General Accessories] netstat_EVO:
Still waiting for the displays I ordered to get here. I hate when things that say they will take 4-8 weeks actually seem like they are going to take that long lol

Apparently it is being handled as a 1-off order and they are actually being made per my order. Seems kind of stupid to me, but it is what it is. I can't believe they don't have two displays sitting in a warehouse somewhere.

Edit: Just went and checked my order status (not like I was expecting any change), it's still listed as "Processing". But today makes one week since the order was accepted... Only one week, it feels like 3 birthdays have already gone by... This is going to be the longest 4-8 weeks of my life. :(
[General Accessories] netstat_EVO:
Unconventional Update:

There is no update...

Display order is still showing as "Processing".

So I guess the update is that the project hasn't gone dead, I just can't do anything without parts lol :)
[General Accessories] netstat_EVO:
Just checked my order status for the displays.

Status is changed to SHIPPED :)

Now I don't know if that is "shipped from china to US distribution center" or "shipped to me" but either way, they should he here soon :)
[General Accessories] leobg:
I am on the same boat too. In the past month the screen of my MBW-150 exec (white one) had dimmed to a degree it is only readable in rather dark environment, certainly invisible in daylight..

I am going on the wait list too here! Looking forward for good news!
[General Accessories] slipudatung:
MBW-100

I have an MBW-100 that suffers from No Display (Went from Dim to gone) and would be keen to try out one of these. Its been sitting in a box in my room for like a year so might be a fun project!

Did you have issues with ordering just a couple?
[General Accessories] netstat_EVO:
other than the fact that it took forever (received Friday) no.

I have to find a watch shop to help me out with one of the last steps of disassembly. I am scared to pull the hands off the watch face, and it has to happen. I'd rather pay someone $10 to do it than break it myself...

more updates to come over the next week.
[General Accessories] BOTICSELLI:
Hello there!

I'm from Hungary, and I have exactly the same problem with my MBW-150 Classic.

If this project will working to you, I will order 2 yellow display...

Any news?

How it's going?
[General Accessories] paulheth:
Great to hear you are progressing netstat_EVO. Count me in on the 'watching with keen interest list'. I can still see my LCD but only in medium to dim light.

Thanks for your efforts!
[General Accessories] CyberDemonVZ:
Hi!

I will get MBW-150 in few days, and I am reading on XDA to find everything about it :)

I've found your thread, and I am waiting to see if this will be solution for dim LCD :)

But then I saw you wrote this:

What is the battery issue? And where is the solution?

Thank you in advance ;)
[General Accessories] zaphodbb1:
Hi

Just as a bit of background info re OLED in general:

I asked a guy I know who designs visual based stuff for a very high profile 'solutions' company, and his remark was that the issue with OLED displays is that they are killed by air getting into them. This is true of all OLED's and is the main reason there are no really large panels (TV's) at present as no manufacturer has managed to produce one that excludes air over a long period of time - all the current glass types leak a very small amount. As air gets in the panels gradually dim until Nada.

Not of any real help for you guys, but now you know why....
[General Accessories] netstat_EVO:
To the guy with the battery question. Just Google search for mbw-150 battery. Replacements are now readily available thanks to xda members.

Moisture is also a leading killer of oled displays. I think our problem is that Sony didn't seal these units as well as they should have.

To everyone else, been busy with work lately, getting the hands removed soon to continue this project. Just gotta find time to get to a shop.
[General Accessories] CyberDemonVZ:
OK, thank you!

I just received my MBW-150 Music! i love it!

Still perfect display ;)

"Fading display" will happen 100%, and it is just matter of time?

Or this happens only on some devices?

I don't have problems, but I will subscribe to your thread, just in case ;)
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
Mine just arrived from here: http://www.thebatterystore.com/batteryforsonyericssonbluetoothwatchmbw-100andmbw-150.aspx

I think $19.95 plus $9.67 shipping and handling is a ripoff, but I was able to get two for the same shipping, so they were "only" around $25 each! :eek:
[General Accessories] CyberDemonVZ:
What about this?

http://www.thebatterystore.com/powerdiscpd243037v100mahli-ionrechargeablecoincell.aspx

According to some internet pages, this should be the same battery, but without connectors and insulation.

Three versions, I guess cheapest one ($7.50) would be OK if you know how to solder.

If changing OLED display will work, then netstat_EVO should buy a lot of displays and batteries, and he could be service center for MBW-150, covering whole world :)
[General Accessories] tektor:
Hey guys, sorry to spoil the party here, but I have a cautionary tale that will hopefully prevent others from totally destroying their MBW-150.

I was also excited about the prospect of getting my dim OLED repaired. But I got impatient (happens a lot), and decided to dig-in. My thought was to take the good OLED from my "executive" model (I don't care for the metal band), and use it to replace the dim OLED in my "classic" model.

Now, I'm not a watch expert. But I'm relatively tech/mech savvy. So I unscrewed and removed the back without incident. The battery is right there, and can be easily replaced. However, I'd recommend getting a pro to do it, so that they can replace the water seal on the cover before closing it. Anyway, that's about all I'd say can be serviced on the watch.

To get the rest of the watch out of the housing, you need to remove a few more screws, and you also need to remove the crown (the thing you use to set the time on the hands). I don't know how to remove the crown, and ended up breaking the spindle in the process. Oh, well; at that point, I knew I was hosed. So I figured I'd learn what I could so I could post it here. I assume that someone more knowledgeable about watches could remove the crown without damage.

Now, the way the "movement" is constructed, there's a main board sandwiched between the "face" and a rear plastic housing. The OLED is, of course, on the front side of the board, which means you need to remove the face to get access to it. As netstat_EVO mentioned, that involves removing the hands. I couldn't see how to do that without damage. Since I knew I was already hosed, I just broke them off. Again, I assume an experienced person could do that without damage. Then the face slides right off, and there's the OLED.

Now here's the kicker. The OLED is attached to the main board by a short ribbon cable. And that cable, with its two dozen or so thin leads, is totally baked onto the board - no socket there, at least not on mine. Now, I could be wrong, and if so, someone please correct me. But I don't think that cable can be removed from the board without destroying the "landing" area. Probably someone with the right tools could do the repair, but those would be some pretty specialized tools. I'm handy enough with a soldering iron, and I can tell you, that wouldn't do it.

I still have two MBW-150s, and I love them. (OpenWatch on Android rocks!) But now I'm resigned to the fact that eventually the OLEDs will die. And aside from being reasonably good looking watches, they won't be anything special.

If you think you'll have better luck than me, then by all means, please try! I wish you the best. And thank you very much to netstat_EVO for posting your info!
[General Accessories] keven311:
Awesome hope you get it soon i would like to be first on your list for repair i love that watch.
[General Accessories] larrytango:
any pics??

I have 2 watches .. both ended up with no screen now :( im looking to buy another but does anyone else have a suggestion of another bluetooth watch that i could use with smartwatch / openwatch (i have HD2 and thus use windows mobile and android) that doesnt suffer this issue?
[General Accessories] netstat_EVO:
There isn't so much doom and gloom in the disassembly process. Sounds like you ran into some pretty bad luck.

I have already had mine apart to the point where removing the hands to gain access to the OLED was all that I still needed to do.

As for the rubber seal, getting it to seat correctly isn't that big of an issue, and I doubt that a watch shop would be able to replace it with a new one (we all know how Sony is about parts for these :( )

The crown (thanks btw, I didn't know the name of that part. I just called it the time changer thing) that is actually pretty easy to remove. You just have to pull very very slowly and evenly and it will eventually just pop right out without breaking.

Still trying to find time to get to a watch shop to have the hands removed... I took on a second department to manage at work and time has been at a premium lately.
[General Accessories] paulheth:
Udpate?

Completely get the 'hard to find the time' thing as our 18 month old keeps us running, but any change for an update? My screen is totally gone now, but love the watch.
[General Accessories] gewoonjan:
so if i understand it correctly a watch shop could install a new oled display when provided?

oh and what about the expected life span of the displays? i couldn't really work that out from the previous posts

i'd love to try it because i recently bought a second hand mbw-100 with dead oled without knowing that buying a new watch would be better:rolleyes:
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
Any update on this? I bought a second MBW-150 to hold me over until you got this figured out, and now its display is starting to fade too. :mad:
[General Accessories] Xilsoh:
Any advance about this issue?... I want to buy Oled Display but waiting info to know if it works... Please... Keep in touch... Thanks!!!
[General Accessories] CyberDemonVZ:
Waiting for news....

Yes, we are still waiting for any news. I hope nothing happend to netstat_EVO :)
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
I'm afraid netstat_EVO has abandoned us and this project. Has anyone else ordered and/or tried the displays he talked about in this post? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12549737#post12549737
[General Accessories] svinod:
Need help on MBW 150 OLED fading problem

netstat_EVO,

After two years of using my MBW 150, now the OLED has completely faded. Is there a way at all to have this working again. Kindly let us know the out come of your experiment.
[General Accessories] Xilsoh:
I've written a PM a couple of minutes ago Today...

I will wait for an answer from netstat_evo... Let's see what happens now... menwhile I will buy that OLED display and take it further from now on... as soon as I get home next week due to a job travel... I'll keep you informed... See you soon:D...
[General Accessories] svinod:
Hi Xilsoh,

Great that you have taken the project, we will also wait for netstat_EVO to reply on his experiment. Keep us informed on the outcome.
[General Accessories] netstat_EVO:
I have not abandoned anything. Sorry that there has been no progress in this thread (and with my MBW-150 also).

But as I stated in an earlier post here, I took on a another department at my company and really just haven't had time to tinker with anything. (One man running all of IT, all cellular communications, all land line communications, all of security (computer and physical) plus random things like contract creation etc ... doesn't leave much time for my hobbies unfortunately)

I am leaving for Defcon (Las Vegas, woot! :) ) tomorrow and returning Monday morning. That Monday is a work holiday here, so I'll see what I can get done when I get back.

Best of luck to anyone else trying this repair. Hopefully the information I have provided helps.
[General Accessories] Mindstorms:
I came across this post today, and because it has still no final solution, I decided to try calling the Sony Ericsson helpdesk. They told me they couldn't help me, because

they have no spare parts left

at all.

In the Netherlands, you have warranty to what a person may "reasonably expect", and a watch (especially an expensive one like the MBW-150) is supposed to last longer than a year. After some hussle (I asked him what screen is in the watch so I could replace it myself, but he didn't know) he advised me to

call FOSSIL

, the designer of the watch.

So I called FOSSIL headquarters (occasionally located in the Netherlands), and they told me they had no spare parts either, except for batteries. They also had

no clue about the type of display

in the watch, but, they told me

all broken watches are replaced free of charge withing 2 years of buying

. They gave me an adress to send my watch to, but it wasn't the right adress, as I discovered when I had already send my watch. When I had nog heard of it again after four weeks I decided to call the headquarters of Sony Ericsson, and after being a bit rude they promised me to find out where it was and fix the problem. I now have a brand new MBW-150 back, so if you call your Sony Ericsson support desk you'll have a chance of your watch getting repaired for free.

Kind regards,

Mindstorms
[General Accessories] pphi:
How do you remove the hands without damaging it?
[General Accessories] netstat_EVO:
There is a tool to do it (that I don't have)...

So, ... very carefully? :)

Thats my plan at least.