yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Optimus 2x] sorech:
I don't have any interest in storing apps on the SD, I want apps that store things on SD to have enough space.

I might want to use Spotify (a music player streaming music from a remote server). This app has the possibility to cache music so you do not have to wast your battery on constantly streaming over 3G/wifi and also have it available where connection speeds are low or no connection is available, or if you are abroad.

All in all the standard music cache I had on my Desire HD (before it was stolen in Cambodia) will nott fit on the 5.5GB of internal SD and if I cut it down to fit, I will still have problems with other apps like map applications that also need a lot of storage. The phone camera also stores it's pictures on the internal SD.

There are just so many reasons why what LG has done is stupid. It's a top of the line phone, why on earth limit the external SD used by applications to 5.5GB when you otherwise could put in 32GB SD-card??
[LG Optimus 2x] nukleuzN:
+1 I do agree. This phone is useless if you can't use its external SD like it works on HTC Desire etc.

It doesn't make sense that the phone support SD cards up to 32GB, but you can only use it as a backup space. Practically.

I also use Spotify with Offline function enabled. Then I have aprox 3000 songs stored, and my internal storage isn't big enough. Doh!

Sent from my talk i tapeten
[LG Optimus 2x] ULJ:
You are correct in most of what you are saying. However, if one uses a GPS navigation application like the one from Sygic, then you cannot place the maps on the external sd card as they will not be viewable for the application. Only from the sd card (on 5.5 GB which is part of the internal built-on memory) is the maps viewable. Now, thats a problem!
[LG Optimus 2x] MeX_DK:
Its not LG that is doing something wrong :P.

Its actually all the people that are making apps that are on the wrong end. When they made their apps they werent accounting for the fact that phones would have 2 SD cards and as such wrote their software rather "limited".

All you need to do is basically to get the app developers the notice that phones like the LG, and various other phones with both Internal and External SD are having storage issues with their app. And then hope your app will get adapted in such a way that it supports the option that you can select where to save your files :P.

Look at Titanium Backup for one, it fully supports the external SD. Astro does as well. Its all a matter of "proper" coding from the app developers. The second they adapt their code to support external SD the problem is solved.

SO as such this is not an LG related issue but more a app related issue ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] spawndk:
ah ok I understand

- the spotify and GPS navigation examples are certainly valid points, I agree in situations like that it is an issue.

But its an issue that wont be limited to the LG, several new models will be coming with some amount of limited internal SD storage.

Shouldent it be an issue that is delt with on application level by the app developers rather than on hardware level ? Like, isnt it just poor application development that the source placement of this cache, maps, textures or whatever isnt selectable by the user ?

A sollution might be to contact the developers of the apps in question and ask them to

make a selectable option in the App for where to store this - an option where the user can select either internal or external SD.

Edit: I see MeX_DK had the same thoughts as I did :)
[LG Optimus 2x] MeX_DK:
I actually had that thought when I got my LG and looked up the issue at first, thinking I was supposed to have a choice and then found out it was an app issue and not a phone issue :P.

So just like you I thought it might be worthwhile to spread the word so that many people can open their mouths and let the world know of the problems to come :P
[LG Optimus 2x] Ekkis:
TB won't find my External..

You wrote that Titanium Backup finds the external SD-card...does it ? It won't find my external....if you know why, please help :)

//K
[LG Optimus 2x] MeX_DK:
See the following Image and you will see what I have done in order to get Titanium Backup to do to use my External.

Just a shame dropbox doesnt do the same >_<
[LG Optimus 2x] rulezzzor:
any usefull script plz? i have 1gb free.....TERRIBLE!
[LG Optimus 2x] MeX_DK:
Go blame your app developers. ITS THEIR FAULT....

If you have an app that uses or is supposed to use a lot of space go bang on that developers door and ask him/her to please support external SD usage.
[LG Optimus 2x] rulezzzor:
devel? it is way on long time....>D
[LG Optimus 2x] rulezzzor:
adfaf

could any one tell me and write me a sript for boot?

mount -t vfat -r -w /dev/block/vold/179:17 /mnt/sdcard/

mount -t vfat -r -w /dev/block/vold/179:9 /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD
[LG Optimus 2x] djmcnz:
You'd have to do it in the kernel really. Swapping them after they've been mounted would be a bad idea.
[LG Optimus 2x] rulezzzor:
yeah, any idea :) could anyone create a zip with update? it will be nice
[LG Optimus 2x] djmcnz:
I don't think anyone will. It's a daft idea.

Just get used to the new way.
[LG Optimus 2x] jtroye32:
I'm no developer, but shouldn't this be really easy for devs to code in? Pretty much just add the path to external sd and add a selectable menu for the user to pick internal or external.
[LG Optimus 2x] PlayTimou:
You can find a prerelease on http://www.spotify.com/download/previews/ who solve this problem.

You can find the spotify community here and this topic is about this problem and the solution provided by spotify developpers : http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/...tm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification

This prerelease work weel on LG Optimus 2X, just one bug for me : http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/filter_issue_on_lg_optimus_2x
[LG Optimus 2x] djmcnz:
Yes

10char.
[LG Optimus 2x] rulezzzor:
Cmon.....thats not fun
[LG Optimus 2x] sorech:
Ha, that just made my hacked Spotify apk obsolete :-D
[LG Optimus 2x] rulezzzor:
for what is it :D
[LG Optimus 2x] sorech:
It places the spotify cache on external SD.

Sent from my LG-P990
[LG Optimus 2x] Maliacrete:
I am sorry but I have a simple question. If I want to save two blueray films in my external sd card do I have to copy it in my internal and then paste it over to the external? When I mount the phone, I cannot see the internal card.
[LG Optimus 2x] kresten:
cant use spotify in my country anyways :/
[LG Optimus 2x] Maliacrete:
i have formated the sd card with the phone option.. all good.
[LG Optimus 2x] lorijuan1024:
atrix has this same problem
[LG Optimus 2x] AxlWarlock:
Hi, fellows.

Do anybody worked out some solution for "external card" issue?

I have the same problem on my SAMSUNG i9003 device - small internal SD, and big external one.

And cache of some Gameloft games could be near 1 Gb! (Dungeon Hunter 2).

Really I don't need to swap entire SD cards. I just need a tool, which can mount some folder from external SD card as "Gameloft" folder on internal SD. Like folder alias.

Can it be done?
[LG Optimus 2x] djmcnz:
You can use the ln command to create symlinks, yes. You'll need to set them up each boot so a script in /etc/init.d/ or script manager tool would be required.
[LG Optimus 2x] AxlWarlock:
Anybody tried to do this? Is there any tool for this? I'm not familiar with Linux, sorry...
[LG Optimus 2x] konio25:
Hi all, today i found than my mate who have lg o2x some way install angry birds on external sd card, so i did ask him how the hell he done that because i really wanna use my external card for apps and games and he said then he really dont know how,but he mentioned something then that could happend when he have phone connected to pc so i did try this way and there we are, when i connect my phone to pc and dont take option mass storage i try move some games to sd and from some reason they go to external sd not to internal :eek: sorry for my english
[LG Optimus 2x] AxlWarlock:
Sorry, but I tried - it's not working.
[LG Optimus 2x] gaww:
This is a really dumb setup - hopefully it can be "fixed" within a custom ROM. I will definitely donate the the developer.

I have two GPS apps that resided on the SD card - their maps will pretty much take almost all of the internal "sd".

I reset the backup file location on Titanium which helps some, but it was a bad choice by LG to set it up this way -and probably more expensive. At least, they should have have put 16gb internal.
[LG Optimus 2x] MeX_DK:
Stop effing flaking LG for this. Its not LG's fault that the company that makes your GPS apps are retards that can figure out to give the users the option to select where to save the files.

And I am pretty sure the problem is the same on the Motorola Atrix, considering it has internal SD storage as well. I would like if someone could confirm whether this is true or not.
[LG Optimus 2x] SkubiXTX:
I think that it is easier to fix the problem by LG than writing up to 50 programmers to ask for modifications, also part of the application is abandoned by developers and it is rather impossible to got the upgrade.
[LG Optimus 2x] MeX_DK:
There would only be one way that LG could "fix" this "problem" and that would be converting the NAND into one complete internal storage. Which would be ok for me. Which means the actual SD would be mounted as /sdcard while at the same time allowing those of us who doesn't need to move apps to SD anymore to actually keep all the stuff internally.

Any other fix (like just mounting the external SD as /sdcard and then mounting the internal SD as something else) are just not good enough for me and I would suspect a lot of others would hate that as well. And that would not be a proper fix either, and more of a jerry-rig.

BUT as someone else stated, its NOT JUST LG that is causing this issue as it also exists on the Motorola Atrix and is only bound to exist on the Samsung Galaxy II that is due to arrive. But then again, it will have 16 or 32 GB of internal storage so perhaps people wont complain there :P
[LG Optimus 2x] ravn1:
No, custom rom can do it as well.. check out MoDaCo, Paul there changed the sd card name so that apps use the external one in stead. But it IS the developers fault for not updating their software. Just like App2Sd..
[LG Optimus 2x] MeX_DK:
MCR doesn't change the external SD to /sdcard. Paul himself specifically said he would not make that change.
[LG Optimus 2x] orlox:
Lets get some things clear. phone has 8mb internal memory on specifications. Thats fake.

It has 1.5gb internal memory and 5.5 internal sd card.

Is that the same space partitioned in 2?

If it is:

How can we make the "internal sd" one with the internal memory so we can have 7-8gbs of internal space and use the external sd card and main sd card?

In speed tests the internal sd card was faster than my external class 4. (12mb/s vs 18mb/sec)

Is it possible to do?

If it is will we have speed problem?
[LG Optimus 2x] fallenguru:
This may be a stupid question, but is the "internal SD" VFAT or a proper fs? If it's the latter you could just move the data directories to the external SD and symlink them.

If not, you could use bind-mounts, if the phone's mount command and kernel can do that.
[LG Optimus 2x] gaww:
CM ROMs may fix

There is no CM development on these (OX2 & GX2) yet, but there should be at some point. From the CM7 nightlies changelog, it looks like they may be working on it

Change I6beb0077: Allow multiple shareable SD Cards by using getShareableVolumes() to get all the volumes that are shareable and allowing sharing/unsharing for all of them rather than just the hardcoded getExternalStorage calls.

Change-Id:

I6beb007700ef4be04c3eb273bbf2069c87b30011

Owner	atinm

Project	CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base

Branch	gingerbread

Topic

Uploaded	Apr 10, 2011 5:35 PM

Updated	Apr 20, 2011 7:49 PM

Status	Merged

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[LG Optimus 2x] marektupa:
Sorry for my stupid question but have anyone solved it ? Can I do somethink for change the priority and make the external SD card the main card where can i install the aplications and games ? Thanks
[Captivate General] lfaulkner29:
i have a couple "user preference" things that i am going to ask help on. first off i am running Paragon RC6 but don't have enough posts to ask these on that thread (and im not sure that is where they belong anyways). I"m not sure this is the right place for the questions either but here goes....

First: I want to shorten or eliminate the amount of time the "call ended" screen appears after i hit "end call". What i want is when i hit end call the screen goes back to the home screen within approx 1 second (or immediately).

Second: As i mention above i want it to go to the home screen when i hit end call, not the previous screen i was in before i made the call (ie: contact list or call log).

Third: Is there a theme/dialer that when the phone is ringing or dialing the "contact" image is full screen in the background with the dialer as a transparent overlay on top?

I have done a little research looking for this stuff myself, but sometimes i find it very difficult to "search" through the mountains of information that exits on this site. believe me i am not complaining about the information on this site because i have found alot of it very useful however i noticed sometimes the thread starts out with a particular question and before you get ten posts in it's talking about something completely different.

anyways, thank you very much in advance for any and all assistance.
[Captivate General] lfaulkner29:
bump (just one time)...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
Before posting any steps or anything, I would like to say that you flash this at your own risk. I assume no responsibility at all.

Prerequisites:

A) Must be rooted, with CWR flashed.

B) You must flash the radio below before flashing Lightning Rom v3.3!!!!

Required Radio:

Radio Download

To flash, rename to PG05IMG.zip, place on root of SD Card, reboot phone into fastboot and flash it. This should not clear any of your data.

Version 3.3.1...minor changes...i like um

1. Red themed v 2.3.6 market

2. Rethemed rosie.apk/com.htc.resources.apk both protrait and landscape

3. Got my custom wallpaper to stick finally.

4. minor framework fixes...

5. nice custom red boot animation

6. transparent status bar

7. reverted back to BAMF 4.3a for stability.

What this rom includes:

1.	1.13.605.7 based

2.	Busybox installed (1.19 -Adrynalyne)

3.	deodexed

4.	Rooted (thanks to rmk)

5.	Zipaligned

6.	Verizon debloated (still has VVW)

7.	Still has all HTC bloatware

8.	Modified status bar:

a.	Honeycomb Style Clock

b.	Red and Grey themed for a classy look.

9.	Includes HTCsense.com syncing (thanks to adrynalyne)

10.	Rosie tweak (thanks to signal23)

11.	Transparent notification bar. Kept the recent apps in there though.

12.	Latest Rom Manager, titanium backup

13.	Car Dock (Thanks to NCX Designs)

14. Volume Controlled stock boot

15. BAMF 4.4.2 Kernel included

16. Custom Boot Animation

17. Themed Market (based on VirusRom Market, edited with a touch of Green)

18. Radio Settings Mod (jcase)

19. More tweaks for battery performance

20. Rotating Rosie (bgill)

21. Advanced Power Menu (scuccia)

22. Power Widget Mod (sk806)

23. SD Card speed fix

24. Skype included

25. Power Control Settings App included

Steps to flash:

1.	Place on root of SD card

2.	Reboot into CWR

3.	MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR CURRENT ROM.

4.	Wipe Data/ Wipe Cache/ Wipe Dalvik Cache

5.	Flash Rom.

6.	Reboot (takes a little longer on the first boot).

DOWNLOADS

My latest roms can now be downloaded via Rom Manager!

New Rom

Lightning Rom 3.3.1

Themed Lightning Rom 3.3

Lightning Rom v3.3-Unthemed

3-3Unthemed Market Fix...must be flashed so you can get certain paid for apps in market

Last ROM (1.12.605.9 Based)

Lightning Rom 3.2

All themes and mods have been moved to the themes and apps thread

-Hope you all enjoy

Notes:

Removed Flashplayer, Gmail, Maps, and Adobe Reader...download them from the market. This eliminates the errors received while trying to upgrade them from the market.

If you like my work, you can donate using the button under my name.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
{WIP}[ROM][6/21/2011] Lightning Rom 4.1

Lightning Rom 4 has been moved to its own thread...finally lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] EvilDobe:
Giving it a try. I'll let you know how it goes.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
More Screenshots
[Thunderbolt Android Development] EvilDobe:
I saw that. Appreciate the follow up.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
Nice looking ROM!! I might have made the taskbar icons blue to match the theme, but still looks good
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
I can post a blue one if you would like. I.did it green to match another skin in there and decided it looked pretty good with the blue too.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
Sweet, that'd be awesome. I'm willing to bet if you posted a bluetaskbar.zip it would get plenty of clicks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
I will make one when I get home and post it up later tonight.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
Good stuff!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
If anyone has tried it, can you verify.that the download worked and that it didn't jack your phone up.

-Thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] StephenMilone:
what font is that? I like it
[Thunderbolt Android Development] smstutler:
Downloaded and installed. Running it now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
Font is Sony Sketch
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bokechukwu1:
I'm running stock ROM now I can't install this straight from my stock ROM can I and yes I am rooted
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
Cool. Let me k.ow if you have any problems or suggestions to make it better.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
Are you coming from 1.12.605.9 rooted? If so, it should work. If not, ill check it out when I get home. Stock Rom is 1.12.605.6.

If it doesn't work, I will make one tonight compatible with 1.12.605.6 for everyone not in the leak. Just let me know if you get stuck at cloud bootscreen when you try to flash it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bokechukwu1:
I just looked in at 1.12.605.6 stock ROM so chances are ill get stuck is the 3g/4g okay in this ROM I remember reading in other Roms that it messed it up somewhat
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
Well instead of getting stuck, check back later tonight. I will have the 1.12.605.6 version up and ready for ya.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] StephenMilone:
thank you!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dragonsportbikes:
Dude, I've been using your lighting Rom since the first version. Great work is all I can say. It just keeps getting better. Mad props to you!! I installed 3.2 and it appears that Skype will work for me. I will actually test later today but it does pick up my front cam. Also your font is unmatched. Not sure how.you did it but I love that you changed the font. Would be nice to add more font changing options as it may be too small for some users. But overall great work. Keep.it up man, I check everyday for updates!!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dragonsportbikes:
Bye the way, the only issue I have noticed with your roms is that the battery meter is off. Yesterday I was around 50% for two hours so I decided to reboot and came back up at 16%. Has anyone else seen this issue and is there a fix?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
Another update coming...and yes skype does work with the front camera...I confirmed it with my wife yesterday! I'm just putting on the finishing touches...going to change out kernel later today because Liquids 1.2GHz with smartass governor is working GREAT with battery life...BAMF 4.3a seemed to draining battery quickly so I would like to find one I love before an official release.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dragonsportbikes:
I'm trying out the 4.3a for the day. I don't overlook much. Ok let you know what I get. I have had a lot of luck with the bamf kernels and batt life. Have you heard of the issue with the inaccurate batt meter? Always awesome work from you... Thanks!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dsb9938:
Wrong place!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
I heard that if you are using a widget, that may be inaccurate, but as for the meter in the status bar, try wiping battery stats if its wrong and let me know how that works out.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] davezaff:
Testing 3.2B4 what kernel would you recommend?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dragonsportbikes:
I actually have wiped batt stats via cwm several times with 2.0, 2.1, 3.0, and 3.1 but still seems to report inaccurately. not using a widget. I will try with 3.2 and see if there is a difference. Not sure if anyone else has run into this issue.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
You are the first to say anything...I will look into it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention...hopefully I can get it ironed out.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
hold up on this...i am releasing 3.2 in a couple hours.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] davezaff:
Too late.....I'll flash 3.2 when you release. but 3.2B4 is running fine.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dragonsportbikes:
Ok used 3.2b4 all day. Just rebooted and batt went from 36% to 18%. So same issue with batt but outside of that great Rom!! Not sure there is a fix for batt. Keep up the good work tho. I'm always checking for your updates
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
This is not an issue with my Rom...this is an issue I have experienced since I bought the phone. If you did the restart option on a stock phone and check battery percentage it drops dramatically...I used the HTC battery widget before rooting my phone...this was literally the FIRST thing I noticed. However, check the new Rom...I have found that the drop in battery on a restart has been dramatically reduced.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mpfstc:
The battery issue is with all the Roms I have tried. The only flaw this phone seems to have is its battery. Try wiping battery stats in CWM. I usually flash, charge to 100%, and then wipe. It will drop to around 90% and then charge the remainder. It should help your battery last longer because when it gets to 100% it stops charging.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] davezaff:
I noticed on 3.2b4 the sense clock changed to a different skin altogether when going into landscape. Any change with 3.2?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
That has to do with what skin you are using....any other than stock, it will changeover the blackboard clock I believe...this isn't fixed, but I will post edited skins to fix this issue.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RaptorMD:
I really like what you did with the ROM, and look forward to the green theme, green for android. One question how much storage space do we have after install? I have noticed that some ROM's leave you at around 2.32GB some a bit more and some a bit less. If you run stock and remove the bloatware you will be around 2.50GB of space. Just curious.

After flashing 3.2 are there any patches needed to be installed, and is Drod 1.2 GHz kernel?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ilovechi23:
do anybody know if the old themes will work for the new release?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
No patches as of yet. One is eminent for the HTC widget download fix, and the kernel.included is not from adrynalyne/bamf...its a kernel made by Friday and liquid. It's been absolutely amazing even while being overclocked.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
Both will work, they just will not be complete. You.will have several apps that are red themed still.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] GreginNH:
3.2

once again nice job man!!!

I'm digging the Red better , seems easier on the eyes.

Thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ilovechi23:
thx for the info... i'll just wait till the be officially for 3.2 .... kinda dont let the red that much but i like the rom so i can wait...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dhemke17:
Honestly, which one you waiting on...i will put it out first...i can probably get green out by tomorrow...grey will take me a little while as would blue....just let me know...