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[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
I talked to noobnl, he says the gpu has dedicated ram that cannot be modified or allocated to unfortunately. So basically whatever it is at now, 128mb I believe, is where it's gonna stay. 128mb of dedicated RAM to the powervr is definitely good, so I don't know if it really even needs any more. I'm just going off of what noob said, but I'll keep looking at it more and see what I can do.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Ive seem something about the memory in the captivate forum.
[Epic 4G Android Development] aigoo:
awesome thanks for that tidbit! looking forward to 1.3 :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] cache83:
this is what i'm thinking EXACTLY!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] qbking77:
Why not SFR 1.2? ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] SpicyBurrito:
Because maybe it'll take as long as 1.1 did to come out :p

Jkjk.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Nope, it'll be out soon ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
People are fishing for an E.T.A....no bites here
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
Oh, really now? Then I might as well wait for that. I've been hearing quite a few bugs on 1.1.1 right now.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
How far away could it be??? Hmmmm
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Not really ;) but it'll be out soon

Sent from a truly Epic phone on the XDA Premium app ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
They are trying to bait you Impaler. Don't bite
[Epic 4G Android Development] SpicyBurrito:
I wasn't baiting for an ETA. I was just taking a jab at them :p.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Oh on the 1.1.1? I haven't tried it yet. I have been testing something else. I would imagine if there is an issue, it will be resolved quickly.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
Using vision 1.2 on srf 1.1.1 =) 23rd time flashing kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
May be your last (not meaning that its going to ruin your phone either) unless that's the one that works best for you.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
1.3 will surely be just as good as the ee03 kernel which is amazing with battey life.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Perhaps the devs would at least be inclined to state their goal for release date, if not for the inevitable flaming from people who see "I hope it will be ready for us to release it tomorrow night" and read it as "I... will... release it tomorrow night"
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
30 days! :-p
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
To be honest my phone runs fine at 1.4ghz but I actually prefer the feel of 1.3ghz. 1.4ghz is almost TOO fast (Yeah, I said it). 1.4ghz is a battery drinker too. 1.3ghz ftw. Even 1ghz is pretty damn smooth with this kernel. I have SetCPU drop it to this when my battery hits 40%.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Soon I'll figure out what is wrong with the fps cap and then you will have the best of both worlds. No point in having two seperate kernels with only very minor differences. Goal is to have them both working together :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yeah, but that's to be expected :p :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] justinglock40:
Roger that
[Epic 4G Android Development] shigmata:
linpack 19.232mflops

quadrant 1999

an3benchXL 28311

neocore 48.8 fps

SetCPU set ondemand 1400 max 100 min

This is the first time I ran any benchmarks. Keeping a notepad file on this. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] quickstang:
I tried 1.4 Gs on mine but it froze like crazy and then I couldn't even reboot, so I had to pull the battery. Restarted and got FCs like crazy which has never happened. Tried again and again and same thing.

Trying to re-flash the ROM to see if I can get it back to normal because 1.4 is not going to happen for me.

Hopefully I can get the phone back to working condition.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Just wipe data. You got data corruption from an improper shutoff.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Tirregius:
Ran smartbench 2011 @ 1.4 ghz throttled up .... 1206/2760!

One interesting result....

Nenamark ....

@ 1.3 ghz 57.6 fps

@ 1.4 ghz 53.0 fps

Not sure what is going on there. Looks perfectly smooth during benchmarking. I'd expect to see dropped frames if the gpu was bogging or there was some bus timing glitch. Interesting. It went so high I think the meter started going backwards. ;-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] quickstang:
Under CWM is it the... wipe cache/data where it says Confirm this wipe of all user data?

This can not be undone.

Is that what I want? And if so, what's the next step after I do that?
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yes, then wipe factory and reboot.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Interesting, not sure what would cause that, what were your setcpu settings while running the test? Conservative can sometimes throttle down the cpu if the min is lower than the max. Ondemand does it too, so use something like performance for benchmarking. Lemme know if the results change :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] drizek:
locked up within 10 seconds on 1.4.

Oh well.

Make sure to disable Set On Boot and then run 1.4GHz on the High Performance governor when testing it out. That way it will be stressing 1.4 the whole time, and if it freezes then it won't keep refreezing every time you boot it up.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Tirregius:
Ill try again after a reboot in a bit.

I used the "performance" setting to keep it pegged @1400 and even tried putting both sliders @ 1400 when those results came up.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Tirregius:
Ran into an interesting issue ... after a reboot the frame rate is capped @ 50. I've noticed this before running quadrant - sometimes it would be capped at 50fps in the planet scene and others it would be 65 ... no clue what made the cap go back to 65 or down to 50 for that matter.

Any hypotheses, devs?
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
awesome kernel. too bad my phone cant handle 1.4 it instantly freezes up. oh well 1.3 is awesome.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Ya something is definitely wonky with that framerate fix. Quoting per say what Rodderik said, this is not the best way to do it but it works, disabling vsync altogether would be the ideal solution.

Try it again but at 1.3ghz, I would like to see if that makes any difference.
[Epic 4G Android Development] drizek:
I just don't get it. Why is everyone obsessing over the refresh rate?

Disabling VSync will result in tearing and waste battery.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Tirregius:
Went to read my son a bedtime story and re-ran nenamark and sure enough, the cap back @ 65 . Strange. Reproduced the nenamark result(s) again... lower score @ 1400mhz. The issue is likely with the Nenamark benchmark as other benchmark scores scale expectedly. Would be cool if someone could reproduce this result.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Tirregius:
Not obsessing over anything,sir. The frame rate cap can affect the performance/experience in a very real way. If there is an issue with the frame rate not being stable, it is worth looking into as it may certainly affect user experience and/or cause unwanted problems with applications now and in the future.

Running uncapped is a very bad idea (if that is possible.) Asking for excessive heat/battery drain on top of poor visual quality.

EDIT - my two cents for the devs ... nothing really to be gained by upping the frame rate cap to 65 and above imo. Personally, id like to see a nice clean 60fps cap (or stock). Don't really feel like there is much to be gained by upping it and in my case the cap is not working properly.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Migital Warfare:
You mean the stock EE03 kernel? Based on all the comments in the swiss cheese thread, it's only amazing for some, while others seem to be having serious battery draining issues and hot running phones.

My phone is one which had serious battery issues (I was consistently getting no more than 7 to 8 hours on a full charge), which is why I'm now running SRF with vision 1.1
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
24th time today. (Had to reflash srf) 1.2 is my all time fav that's out and released currently. So iknow 1.3 will be even better.
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
Yea it was shiz for me also...well still is...I haven't changed it yet...lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
I've been testing RC1 for two days now. People need to be patient. Let's not forget that the last kernel started bricking user's phones about a week after release. You've lived without it for this long so what's a few more days or another two wekks for that matter? If he announces a goal for release and it doesn't materialize then what?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
That's what I have been trying to say without saying it. I am testing it as well. There are several combinations of things to try in testing. I, for one, want to see as many successful releases as possible. When thomasskull decides its ready after getting feedback from testers then he will release it. So now you have had two people say they are testing it. So obviously it isn't that far away.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Release and let everyone be a tester :)..... of course if it bricks our phones will spam this thread to hell, then create multiple threads in q&a + genral section (lmao! Sounds familar?)....

But on a serious note, patience is the key. If you want to be a tester holla at thomas.....

~cheers
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
People just need to be patient. Nothing more nothing less. I didn't even ask to be a tester fwiw (Thomas pm'd me it out of the blue).
[Epic 4G Android Development] solblack:
EE03 is making my phone run very hot at times. My battery life is fine though. I've never tried the Vision Kernel so I'm looking forward to 1.3 :D

EDIT: I believe I might have lied. My phones battery seemed fine yesterday but today it is only lasting 8-9 hours. Bummer :\ . I was liking this whole Netflix on my phone too.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
It's a good one :)

Sent from a truly Epic phone on the XDA Premium app ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] imann:
Did you have netflix running on a Froyo rom? I thought that different kernels like Vision wouldn't work on GB. I stopped using Swiss Cheese because the stock kernel was running so slow and it seemed like my battery was just draining.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
No, he's saying he misses it now that he's on 2.2.
[Epic 4G Android Development] imann:
My bad, thanks. I can't wait till official GB is released so I can rock some Netflix on my SRF. I would rather have a faster, more efficient ROM than have Netflix, but I will love having both;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] rhyme187:
hey thomas can i be a beta tester for your kernel? i love ur work man im currently running on ur vision 1.1 with no probs
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
If thomasskull doesn't get right back to you it may be because he's working on the kernel. It shouldn't be very much longer though..
[Epic 4G Android Development] rhyme187:
thanks bro ill stand by
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
I didnt know it was as simple as asking to be one. I can re-call thomas said he'd "hand pick" his beta testers. =/
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Well that's how it works but its been being tested for a bit now so maybe it will be released soon is what I meant. It is already in the hands of the testers. Those that are testing want to try every combination of things they/we can think of so there aren't a bunch of posts saying something isn't right, rather how great its working for them. I mean the testers are looking out for the overall good of thomasskull and the Epic Community
[Epic 4G Android Development] The Root:
Twitter say progress on 1.2!
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
Will the new version have voodoo color... the replacement phone I got has a lot of pink when its at lower brightnesses :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Yes it will.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
A newer version to boot...
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
Cool
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
I just wanted to emphasize patience. VisionKernel 1.3 will come in due time. Thomasskull will release it when he feels it is rock solid and ready. I, for one, truly appreciate that. The improvements that VK 1.3 will provide make it worth the wait.
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
Thomas where you at, the show is still rolling here.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
Hey Thomasskull666, you think I can be a tester for your software? If you got too many others, that's cool...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Krazy_P@:
Just so you know he's got a link to his Github so anyone could be a tester, well assuming they know how 2 compile a kernel, for those of you that can't seem to wait may I sugest taking some free time and learning to compile a kernel and you'll never have to wait again, tho I must stress that you absolutly must know what your doing because if you bork it your phone could get sponged or even bricked... but seriously if you put as much energy into learning as you do asking you'd probably be able to start compiling your own kernels. Anyways just stopped over to see what be crackin.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
+1. This or just have some patience.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Easy for you to say...lol. But in all seriousness, you are 100% correct.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Darkshneider:
Isnt this supposed to be VisionColonel?
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Lmao, I'm seriously considering calling it that just to stop the mispellings lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] TexasLTE:
LOL...you gotta know that was coming...LOL
[Epic 4G Android Development] Darkshneider:
I vote for name change.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Art2Fly:
yes. +111111
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Friend coughs: "I swallowed a kernel"

I pull up a picture of tux and code

Me: "how can you swallow a kernel?"
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Lol, I know the feeling. After doing this stuff it will be my natural reaction to think of linux when I hear kernel
[Epic 4G Android Development] Sprintguy1376:
Hmmm... I'm going to make waiting for this colonel easier for myself... a race... between the HP Pre 3 and VisionColonel 1.3

If the Pre 3 is announced first. I'm going to switch.

If the new VisionColonel is out first... I'll stick with Android.

The game is in your hands....
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
well technically 1.3 is out. if u really want it, u can compile it from his github
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Yeah but thomasskull is making some changes from RC1 to RC2.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Can someone compile the kernel for me and pm me with a dload link? I am unable to because my gf took away my pc for two weeks because she say I spend to much time playing world of warcraft and not enough time with spending my money on her! Now mind you, I only play wow while she's at school lol...so when she's on break she calls me...and the first thing she says....you playing wow? Lmao!!!!!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
Are you 2? just out of curiosity haha joking on the side no one plays WoW.

No but seriously you could've said "i dont know how to compile a kernel, so can someone else do it for me"?
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Also could've read the post immediately above his saying that the current version is unstable.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Troll that's starving I see....hmmm.

http://www.mmorpgrealm.com/world-of-warcraft-statistic-in-2010/

Now eat up.....

Pow pow!
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
Ohh im sorry the cough Cough " NERD SECTION" cough cough lol

i used to but not anymore i was just joking but moving along with the topic.

Compiling isn't fun.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Stir fry a lot got the point I was making. Soon enough there will be a VisionKernel 1.3. I, for one, appreciate the fact that thomasskull is taking the time to make it right and thoroughly putting it through testing before he will release it to the masses
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
hey OP! You still working on 1.3? Dammm! Its been a month since you said its coming up. Get up yer fat arse and finish it already! Your as bad as the OP with the tv out thead. Geeezzz!
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
no 1.3 fo you.
[Epic 4G Android Development] qbking77:
You realize that he is using his free time to build stuff you the public for free right?

Please stop being so condescending and try and be a little more nicer.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Agree. If a ROM has a glitch or two, there is an update, replacement app, or some fix eventually. If a kernel has a bug or two, it could be goodbye phone
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
That Post was so direct. somehow, I didn't find it all that harsh. should add a IP block on your new kernel with him on it =P

(kidding)

Question: will your 1.3 have all governors working?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ceelos09:
The day u can successfully build a kernel and release it without flaws faster than Thomas, ONLY THEN will you have the right to say something, and even if u ever did accomplish that, you still shouldn't speak that way to anyone on XDA, that's the reason a lot of Devs have left the Epic thanks to idiots like you. Instead of demanding/trolling/flaming an active working and contributing Dev like Thomas, why not wait patiently, encourage, and donate to him for his efforts and appreciate he's work and dnt take em for granted.

Thomas don't mind him man, we the community hold you and the rest of the Devs in high reguards because thanks to all of you, we're able to enjoy such Kernels/customs ROMs/etc. on our phones. Keep up the good work Thomas! :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Then I demand that you get off your worthless, don't-know-how-to-develop-anything ass and give the developer several hours of your life. You're probably worth about $5.25/hour, so about $500 should be approximately equivalent to the amount of time Thomas puts into this kernel. Sounds like a fair trade to me, what do you think?
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
Sounds, F&*^%!G Perfect to me! Crystal clear that is haha.

Seriously Man, chill when it comes out it'll come out im more of a person who has to have everything right then and there (instant gratification). And look it me im sitting here waiting for it to be released just like the other 3.9 million people on this forum. or whatever amount of people are on here. By the way you have been here for 4 years and yet to learn to develop? atleast i know how this stuff is scripted and how it all works but i never mess with it. I soon plan to learn more once i get a better understanding of Code.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
Me personally I think all the dev's should go on layaway until Gingerbread's given to us.
[Epic 4G Android Development] The Root:
He's been trolling all day.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Lol...so damn funny
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
Dammn kernel nazi...
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
What I think must likely will haz me bann. But il say it and be the sacrificial lamb. This dev posts a soon to be release wip jernel and its been over a month! What does he think we are? Animals? he needs to crawl back to mamz basement and dwell more to finish it.

Please dont ban.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Ok, now it just sounds like you are posting stuff to get people pissed off. I am a tester for thomasskull and I can say you don't really understand how much it takes to build a kernel. I am glad he is doing thorough testing. I know he wants to release it when he feels its 100% ready. All he would need is to release it before it was perfect and then get flamed by a bunch of people who were the same ones who were rushing him to release it. That just makes no sense.
[Epic 4G Android Development] The Root:
Don't feed the animals.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Yeah I should know better.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
COMEDY!

Dude/women/It or whatever you are! These other folks may dislike what you're saying. I on the other hand enjoy watching trolls on the interwebs. Amongst all the bickering and thread jacking, I find you guys extremely random and goofy. I know majority the trolls that ramble are pretty much 99.9% bored and are...yea just pretty much trolling. People that are aware of you trolls should already know your intentions and thus, not feed you. But they do so instead, making them turn into a angry mob for about two pages in a thread before they realize...duh!? That troll was just trolling!! Oh em gee!! Now they look foolish and then humble themselves to say something level headed like " don't feed the troll ".
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
You know whats worse than trolls? High horse riding llamas. They quickly get offended at ppl who post a question about a spacific rom on the dev section in which the rom resides. They get all high and mighty and tie on their cowboy boots as tight as haz be. Then ride along in the thread to belittle the ppl and just right on ride back to the sunset after calling them incredible stuppid idiiots for posting on the wrong section even thou theoridicaly it is indeed the right section. Then wat pissses me off is how their high horse riding pals come along to pat them high horse riding llama friends. Then they reassure each other how high and mighty they are. Those ppl piss me off badly. I would name a few in here but I've been the sacrificial lamb to often and toooooo frequent. Hehe. Carry on.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
Back to the purpose of this thread. Vision kernels. Thankyou.

So I decided to flash 1.2 yeserday to check the battery vs geocides 1.1 and well there both on the same level =P
[Epic 4G Android Development] qbking77:
Yes. Thank you. Please drop it. Thomas is working very hard on this kernel and is doing a great job... trust me ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Darkshneider:
Name change should also be in order, right?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Crazy. But backed snack is ahead of the rom and kernel game atm....
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
No i just think people need to learn how to spell kernel<------ Is for software folks!

and not colonel<----that is a military rank

Get off your a$$ if your too dam impatient, and do it your self. WIP mean work in progress look how long it too for windows vista to come out after XP was out years Jacka$$, and still had issues.

You need to be banned alright, learn to be respectful and have some dam decency.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
That was referring to another thread. Its meant as a joke
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
no i know haha i read it before but i think its funny though that there is a few people that spell it like that though because they dont know "Kernel" ive ran into a few people like that on here and off in the real word, its quite funny.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
True. I still see a lot of "kernal" as well
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
Haha Right! There should be an animation that slaps you in the face if you spell something wrong and make you correct it like a silly cartoon or something lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
You deserve. A rice cake.