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[Nook Color Android Development] ADude:
2. Those methods only differ in how the installation is updated, the same versions should run the same regardless of how they are installed.

3. There is only one 1190 hz kernel, read back in the thread.

And BTW, I disagree - we don't need wizards to figure out the video problems - they just need to point their wands and say "videosmoothicus !"
[Nook Color Android Development] rahlquist:
While I will agree to an extent on a multitasking, multithreaded os its not uncommon for differences to occur. The only way to prevent variations is to shut off every other app and code and run with highest priority. Even doing that is not going to be 100% perfect. The only true way to benchmark without fluctuation is single threaded assembly language. And killing all the apps in the task manager doesnt scratch the surface. I just checked my nook with

ps | wc -l

And it returned 142 processes running. Any of those could wake up during a benchmark, eat cpu or IO cycles and cause a variance.

Bottom line is any benchmark can be used as one as long as it consistently does the same thing. Whether its copying a file or performing math. Some excel at single tasks like linpack. Others like quadrant are meant to benchmark the system as a whole and virtually every one of us has a different system because we all use different apps.
[Nook Color Android Development] poofyhairguy:
That is good stuff.
[Nook Color Android Development] paleh0rse:
1. This Kingmax card that gets surprisingly nice reviews/speeds:

http://www.amazon.com/Kingmax-MicroSDHC-Class-Performance-Memory/dp/B003TT23QI

2. I'm running Verygreen's size-agnostic SD card image/CM7 installer with the n31 nightly.

3. I used Divine's 1190mhz kernel listed in this OP, used SetCPU with max at 1190, min at 800, "ondemand"

For the record, it did seem to get flaky after a little bit of use, so I dialed the max back to 1100 for everyday use. Other than that, though, it has been smooth sailing all the way! :)
[Nook Color Android Development] ax0r:
This kernel ran great with on nookie froyo at 1.19 ghz and offered a very silky smooth and responsive ui but had severe wifi looping and would freeze on some programs like when loading images on tapatalk. The short bench on setcpu was 160 Ms which is trademark for a fast system.

Had to revert to a different kernel though because no wifi sucks on the nook :(

Hope someone can fix this problem
[Nook Color Android Development] Shawn_230:
I've managed to make the 1190MHz kernel run stable with CM7 n31. It doesn't seem to lag like the 1100MHz did last night.

Battery life is good, Bluetooth works... if video wasn't so laggy the Nook would finally finally have finished converting to a full-fledged tablet. I can't wait until CM7 gets proper video playback.

The only issue is though I must have flashed a new CM7 and this kernel some dozen times before it was stable enough to use. Others who are having issues probably just haven't flashed enough times? :P
[Nook Color Android Development] cowballz69:
also dolphin will keep force closing while using this kernel on nookie, wish i could keep using this kernel aswell seams speedy
[Nook Color Android Development] ax0r:
CM7 seems very slow on the ui, everything stutters no matter what kernel I use.. when I use Nookie Froyo its silky smooth..

maybe it has something to do with video acceleration?
[Nook Color Android Development] mad1100:
So was I the only one who got constant freezing right after boot finished? I could not apply either kernel running the latest CM7 nightly. Although I had no problems using the older 1.1 OC kernel. I tried doing a complete wipe as well and this did not solve the problem.
[Nook Color Android Development] jtbnet:
I'd second the KingMax as best after trying 4 other leading/top price manuf. and both 4 and 8 GB. KingMax and finding there to be no comparison. Sandisk is the one that consistently betters it's stated class but KingMax has still been my best...
[Nook Color Android Development] opentofalling:
nookie custom + wretchedblue achieves this. I suspect CM7 will surpass in due time, but we're already there bud... Unfortunately, I couldn't get either of these kernels working stable with nookie... Even still...it's silky smooth for the most part.
[Nook Color Android Development] fattymcdirty:
could you adjust your kernel to the newest oc-kernels available with fixed video?
[Nook Color Android Development] Shawn_230:
But the thing is Froyo is missing Bluetooth and some other stuff like location-based services that CM7 has working already.

Especially since the last update which has apparently made video a lot better I don't really see any benefits to Nookie Froyo... CM7 isn't that much slower to me.

I'm going to try the new CM7 dev build with improved video... the best case scenario with this 1190MHz kernel is that sometimes it's nice but sometimes it lags horribly, and sometimes it freezes when I reset and it tries to set overclock settings requiring me to hard reboot a bunch of times before it can successfully boot Android and set 1190MHz clock speed.
[Nook Color Android Development] KitF:
Dalingrin fixed his own kernel with these changes, you can just use his from now on.
[Nook Color Android Development] ax0r:
Agreed. This thread should be abandoned now that dalingrin is back. Besides this kernel is based on a previous source by dalingrin himself.
[Nook Color Android Development] Divine_Madcat:
As i see others have said, there really is no need. To be fair, this was never "my" kernel; i fixed a bug in the kernel, but it was still Dal's codebase through and through. That said, i agree, people should begin using Dalingrin's builds again, since that is where the bulk of the work will be.

I want to say thanks for all the great feedback. I would like to keep working on kernel stuff, but i think the most logical way is to keep the changes in one code base (Dal's). I don't think it does the community allot of good to have multiple revisions floating around out there..
[Nook Color Android Development] dalingrin:
Thanks for finding the issue whilst I was gone. If you are familiar with git feel free to make pull requests. I think that would be the best/easiest way to contribute. Same goes for anybody who wants to help.

Another issue we need to tackle is the weird wifi reconnect issues. I've tried recompiling the wifi module but haven't had any success with it yet.
[Nook Color Android Development] shadowswittness:
What would I change out to include this in a dualboot CM7 before I repack it for use ?
[Nook Color Android Development] MobileAllStar:
Why can't I flash this after downloading? Do I need to rename it or something? Is this not a flashable zip?
[Nook Color Android Development] Nburnes:
Don't use this kernel. Use Dalingrin's.
[Nook Color Android Development] Sjflowerhorn:
why not? However I agree. I for one was freezing at 1.1 as well as 1ghz. stuttering all over the place. User experience was lacking instead of gaining anything. I am also only one user and others seem to have had some success using it. My 2 cents on the situation.
[Nook Color Android Development] Nburnes:
Because this is outdated. Both are built off Dalingrin's source, and the I/O fixes implemented in this were already added to Dalingrin's main kernel.
[Android Apps and Games] electronicmaji:
XAM will be a open source android media player. It will be the end all media players of android media players. It will provide music playing and library organization via subsonic integration, video playback via mplayer integration, and podcast subscription via developed code.

XAM is inspired directly by the Zune player interface, learning from both the successes and failures of said interface.

XAM's goal is to provide a simple and error free interface that is both functional and beautiful. Also to provide customizability of both the full client and individual features in the premade client.

Here is an example of our current concept interface.

Our teams goal is for XAM 1.0 to be released by January 2012 with all the main functions integrated and ready for usage.
[Android Apps and Games] syrenz:
Looks nice. But I can't stand seeing previews for things I won't see for almost a year :-\
[Android Apps and Games] SoCalSpecialist:
2012....
[Android Apps and Games] syrenz:
Oh right. Gotta get your app up before the world ends.
[Android Apps and Games] electronicmaji:
Version 1.0 will be out.

Test builds will be uploaded nightly once our website is out. version .25 beta will be out by May.
[Android Apps and Games] syrenz:
Oh, that's more like it. :p
[Android Apps and Games] electronicmaji:
bumping...
[Android Apps and Games] philburkhardt:
Bring it on!!! I gave up my Zune when I got my EVO. No need to carry the extra device. But, I really miss the UI. This looks great.:D
[Android Apps and Games] muzik_demon:
Don't forget about equalizers and ID3 tag editing support.
[Android Apps and Games] wookietv:
any update on a beta yet? very curious, giving up my (broken) zune and switching to android full time. want to see how you handle podcasts, that's the one thing i haven't found that works anywhere close to the zune. they're always clunky manual operations.
[Android Apps and Games] madmagdalin:
Any news on this?
[Xoom General] jmc2543:
Well via to an article over at Android Central, and Bloomberg: Business Week, its been said by Google that they wont be releasing the source code for Honeycomb. The reasoning behind it apparently is to keep your small time, crap companies, from trying to put 3.0.x onto a device and giving android a bad rep. So I dont think we will be seeing any ROMs until Ice cream.

Source: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2011/tc20110324_269784.htm

http://www.androidcentral.com/google-not-open-sourcing-honeycomb-says-bloomberg
[Xoom General] Elementix:
Google Holds Honeycomb Tight

It will

delay distribution

of new Android tablet source code to outside programmers

We'll get it eventually..
[Xoom General] jmc2543:
Eventually we may but they are saying they dont want craplet devices coming out that aren't intended to run HC. Yea I can see them releasing the source code, after they get a version of this new style android that runs on phones and tables, AKA ice cream. They also say that it wont be release in the foreseeable future, I take this as dont loose sleep waiting for it.
[Xoom General] whitedragon33:
+1

running Tiamat .1.1.6 for the OCing & USB
[Xoom General] orionshock:
I Saw somewhere that they are only holding the source code back from the masses to ****up. you can still request & sign for the source code if you ask google directly.

IANAL, but if the owner of the source code decides not to publish, isn't that their right? regardless what "Licence" they publish it under?
[Xoom General] IndivisibleP:
When it comes to preventing carriers from putting money sucking spamware on your phone googles "that would jepordize the very definition of open source". But when it comes to releasing the source code for developers to smooth out and patch their half baked OS so each consumer (who paid an unwarranted premium for their device in the first place) can have the free choice of how they would like their "open source" OS to function googles.

Say it aint so.

MOD EDIT: Language
[Xoom General] colbyb25:
I think people need to relax on this issue. Google will release it when they are ready. Either way I can almost guarantee that it will be leaked. The Dev community always gets what I needs. To be honest it is a little annoying that the android community freaks out over everything. Everyone just relax. I am going to go back to enjoying my Xoom.
[Xoom General] Kcarpenter:
Not if they have already distributed product using it. AKA Xoom.
[Xoom General] lesjaw:
I believe this is not just a simple issue.. leaked <> AOSP

one thing for sure, if we don't have HC AOSP, never expect custom rom..

this android open source is going into nightmare :D .. Google please remember this "Don't be Evil" ..

this is ur second Evil move after c&d letter to cyanogen..

peace all..
[Xoom General] Kcarpenter:
Curious why there haven't been any Zip Aligned or Deodexed roms put out, even if that is as far as we can go other than Kernel Tweaks.

I'm not complaining, just curious. :confused:

I guess well have stuff in due time.
[Xoom General] armychris28210:
So if I type assassinate and then.....Google, do u think they will send a team of nerds and lawyers to get me. Be a martyr...start a revolution..Viva la Zoom

...j/k. Not serious
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
You don't need the source code to make a quality rom.
[Xoom General] bigrushdog:
Ftw :D :D

Here's the deal guys. The legend JesusFreke has stated that he needs source to update his programs smali / baksmali. The are the base tools for decompiling framework and apk.

we cannot deodex rom without those tools. Thus we cannot modify smali and XML. So we are stuck with a stock rom. But we have kernel source which is far more important.

So, its all good for now :) :eek:
[Xoom General] B Dizzle:
Is it still possible to theme the Stock ROM without deodexing? I thought I read somewhere that you could but it was not as easy.
[Xoom General] robbiev80:
Samsung probably pissed them off for putting their craptastic TouchWiz on the new Galaxy Tabs.
[Xoom General] th0r615:
I bet you we'll see the Honeycomb source around the I/O in May. I bet we'll also get the deal on 2.4 and some hints for the next version which will unify the tablet and phone forks back into one.
[Xoom General] Kcarpenter:
3 weeks after io..I think that's how long it took for froyo source.
[Xoom General] theermine:
My guess is Google is probably more worried about all the bagnasty China tabs that have flooded the market all running earlier versions of Android.. Imagine the cheap China crap that would hit the streets if they released the HC Source.. No way the masses would pay the big bucks for the Google sanctioned Tablets when they could pick up a China tab for pennies on the dollar..
[Xoom General] EwanG:
While I don't think Google is doing themselves any favors by taking this approach, I would point out that folks would probably make more headway spending time porting Ubuntu or one of the other Linux distributions to the Xoom than trying to prevail on Google to change their ways.
[Xoom General] GulMiguel:
Let's Take A Deep Breath Folks

I'm going to keep this short because I'm not a developer yet, so I'm only qualified to speak as a user and as a grateful member of this forum. As I understand it, in order to be "open" the code has to eventually be released (kind of like non-packaged Linux, i.e. CentOS, Ubuntu, etc.).

From what I've experienced, the only people that DON'T want code coming to us are the carriers. When you folks develop way better ROMs than the crap with bloatware that they try to pass off to us, it hurts their wallets - BFD!!

I'm honored and proud of you guys and I KNOW that the Google probably held it for legitimate problems that they're going to fix for us. Once that's done, they KNOW that once you get a hold of it, more people are going to be exposed to it which only makes more people want future versions. that's how I got snagged by you folks, first with Windows Mobile and then with Android.

I have faith in parts of the system. I have faith in Google to deliver their end, it's the carriers and their greedy practices that I don't trust. Keep the faith folks, take a deep breath and relax. XOOM has been here for only a minute, but we KNOW that it's unlocked, it's rooted and as soon as the 4G hardware and the SD card issues are resolved, we're going to be hip-deep in better versions of the ROMs. I believe that with all my heart because you folks have shown it to me time and again.

It's gonna be great - just wait and see.
[Xoom General] thunderstruck!:
The thing that has made Android so great to date is the aftermarket community, not Google. Release the supposedly half baked source code, and Team Douche will have it fixed far faster, and better, than Google could or would. If it wasn't for JesusFreke, thedude, and Cyanogen, my G1 would still be stuck on 1.5 or whatever it came with. It grew to be so much better as a direct result of aficianados, not Google. A Xoom running a custom ROM would be so much better to show off the hardware than what the official release can do.

My plans for getting a Xoom are like the source code-on hold for now. I don't think Moto realizes this is not helping sell tablets. Until it can be loaded with a custom ROM, I simply don't want one. If I wanted a tablet that could only run the official ROM I'd buy an iPad.
[Xoom General] kcrudup:
Please explain to me how modding the phone you've already bought from, and likely committed to a carrier's contract for, "hurts the wallets" of said carrier?
[Xoom General] ericdabbs:
You do know that if you were stuck on android 1.5 it would have been the manufacturers fault because every manufacturer has to slap on their own stupid skin like Motoblur, Samsung Touchwiz, HTC Sense which cause the long delay in users getting the latest releases. Samsung is the worst with providing timely updates to their phone users (ex: Galaxy S series).

Don't blame google for that when it is the manufacturers that are taking away the pure google android experience and loading it with bloat and crapware.

Just look at the galaxy tab 10.1. I was impressed with the hardware until samsung announced they were putting that crappy Touchwiz UX UI layer on top of stock honeycomb UI.
[Xoom General] lesjaw:
then we need HC AOSP to put Pure HC in it.. :-)
[Xoom General] ericdabbs:
I agree but unfortunately it will be awhile before google releases the HC source code to the devs.
[Xoom General] Squeak22:
What exactly is the custom rom going to do for ya? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
[Xoom General] orionshock:
USB Host Mode, Overclock, Overhauled UI customization... there are alot of things you can do with a custom rom...

I <3 the HC UI... but it does kinda suck. It certainly not as bad as TW or SenseUI
[Xoom General] kcrudup:
I don't see the HC source-code delay as the end of the world as some here do- but at the same time I don't think I've ever seen as untrue a statement on XDA as yours.

I'm running at 1.5G, have host-mode USB and will soon get updated WiFi, all because the kernel source is available. Having the OS available for rebuild opens up even more possibilities.
[Xoom General] Dandarebr:
I Believe that you don`t have a Samsung Galaxy S Phone....

Custom roms gave me:

- Lag Fix

- Three time more battery time

- Increased Speed

- Better home program

I could go on and on telling each of the new features, but I can resume it:

Custom rom gave a new and better phone. A Galaxy S working as it should!
[Xoom General] Squeak22:
Kernel != ROM. I don't disagree that having the open source gives us something, but it's not the end all be all like the guy I quoted thinks it is.

The reason that custom roms are needed is because either the features that said custom roms give are not available (like the captivate), or the performance is not up to spec.

I would say at this point, we don't even know what the hell we want from the tablet, let alone what we would add to it.

I had a captivate. You are talking about custom kernels, which already exist.

Still waiting for a reason.

We have OC, we don't need a lag fix because we don't have the retarded RFS filesystem. The home program(I assume you mean launcher) can already be replaced.
[Xoom General] lesjaw:
one thing for sure for me, wpa_supplicant..

we can't mod it .. I need it to play ar.drone with my xoom:-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] daganb:
Took a bad spill as I was walking and looking down at my phone for google maps instead of noticing the jagged piece of concrete sticking up. Tripped and fell face first with the phone absorbing most of the shock still in my palm.

I fully expected after letting off a string of curse words that the screen would be shattered on my 2 week old G2, however all the damage is on the brushed metal bezel itself. I do have some deep chips and dents in my otherwise new phone, and they look awful.

What are my options for restoring or at least cleaning up these scratches and dents? I am not opposed to a few hours of elbow grease nor am I opposed to a 400-800-1200-2000-4000 grit sanding down and polishing. Has anyone successfully done this? Also I am worried about the digitizer getting scratched during my sanding.

I need options, I typically swap phones about once a year and I always keep every phone I have in pristine condition. Funny part is my phone's body kit / armor was in the mail and arrived the next day.

I also have experience with repairing cell phones, can I buy the metal bezel and replace it that way?
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr234:
Take it apart, sand with progressively finer sand paper, polish, reassemble.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jboy15:
what is the best rom out there and has the best battery life out of all the rom??

any help?!?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackster248:
Probably RoyalGinger due to it's smartass governor/kernel. And because it's AOSP.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LewsTherin006:
is it worth rooting to get royal ginger? I rooted my Droid 1, and loved it, but so far i havent really had a problem with with the stock rom, but im starting to itch to root. How did you root yours? The gfree method? I tried using the visionary way but it didnt work. I just have it temp rooted right now and im running setcpu which kinda helps my battery life.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCS05DC:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=858996

This guide is a great way to truly root your phone, and it has support in multiple threads on how to unroot if you should choose. Be careful with the terminal stuff, double and triple check your commands before entering them. Deving takes me away from Royal Ginger a lot, but the battery life is great on that ROM and it was my daily driver. My advice, try them all out and run them all for a few days. There are some incredible ROMS out now, so give them all a chance. You may find that you like Ginger, or you may be a fan of CM7, just find what works for you.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
This is a loaded question. Different people will have different experiences with various ROMS. It all depends on how you clock your phone, do you have data turned on, do you leave auto sync on, do you leave wifi on and roam in and out of wifi areas. How many emails do you get a day, do you use just gmail, or do you have outlook, do you have yahoo. Can you leave facebook go for more than a nano second... they are many options that can play into battery life.

If you want flat out "BEST" battery life. I drop about 1% of battery per 2.5 hours running Cyanogen(mod), when i have wi-fi, BT, Auto Sync and Data all turned off, and clocked to about 800Mhrz.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tvotony:
Cyanogen(mod) it's the best it bare bones stock. But like they said it all depends on how you use it and what do you have running I've flashed 3 roms with doing backups and everything with no charge from 630 till now 742 while using evening my phone can put out (facebook, email, web, talk, and text all day) and is at 3% clocked at 1.3Ghz
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nosympathy:
So my phone will not connect to 4G at all anymore. I have wiped and flashed Virus rom, Bloatless rom, Mik Rom, etc, and it may show the 4G lte icon, and then kicks off and goes to 3G. Also if I tell it to go to LTE only, it won't even show an icon at all.

I might be exchanging my phone out tomorrow anyway for some nasty backlight bleeding mine is doing, but I just wondered if anyone had any ideas. At first I thought it was because I removed some stuff I shouldn't have, but that went out the door the moment I wiped and flashed a new rom.

*EDIT* guess I should go ahead and point out that when it does "pretend" to connecto to 4G I have 3 bars, and have had 3 bars in this location since I got the phone saturday. So it isn't a signal issue.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fillyo:
Are you in a stable 4g area? I flashed MikRom tonight, instant 4g, plus, download speeds were in the 12-14mb range, which is as good, if not better than stock rom.