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[HTC Inspire 4G] acPIZZA:
I'm doing extremely well on my very first charge. It is a world of a difference since my first inspire.

-Completely stock

-No sense account

-Auto Bright

-Green Power Premium managing my radios

10hrs 37min 3s since unplugged, 59% left.

I was browsing the internet a bunch, tapatalk, twitter, facebook, sending/checking emails, handful of texts, about 30 minutes on the phone.

Will post final results later. I'm siked though. Green Power is really helping out, and not having a sense account helps out as well.
[HTC Inspire 4G] hiltun:
I get really good stand by times. I left my phone on while I was a sleep for about 8 hours and when I woke up the batter was 94/93% but I only get about 2 hours so far of screen on time using SMS, Email, News Apps.

I'm stock as well and have the sync for HTC Sense set to manual and things like facebook, weather, twitter set to 3-4 hours between syncs.
[HTC Inspire 4G] acPIZZA:
Does having the sense account set to manual still drain the battery? I had read in all of the battery tip threads to straight up delete it. Does it make a difference?
[HTC Inspire 4G] hiltun:
I get good idle current so I'm not sure how much it makes a difference. I can't install it either. I'm not rooted.

Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G
[HTC Inspire 4G] metaldood:
How to get current values? any widget/app?
[HTC Inspire 4G] hiltun:
its called Current Widget

Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
Average about 22 hours of moderate use on cm7. Oc'd to 1516 and idle at 245 using built in cm7 settings oc utility. Stock radio.

Edit: btw on sense roms if you have an htc sense account setup it will indeed eat your battery since they keep having server issues and apparently the phone goes crazy trying to contact them when they're down.
[HTC Inspire 4G] acPIZZA:
Can anyone confirm that having a sense account set to manual doesn't drain the battery?
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
Yeah actually, I believe when you have all the syncing turned off for it and at the main accounts and sync section you have a gray sync icon instead of green then you will be fine. That way you can still dowload themes, etc. Just can't use the htcsense.com lost phone features, etc. Hopefully they'll get their server load issues worked out and people can turn syncing back on.
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
My battery life is just horrible, I lose 2% about every minute on my CoreDroid rom.

Is there anything I can do?
[HTC Inspire 4G] hiltun:
Download current widget. and post results.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
Ha ha yeah its pretty good, I see those spikes too. It's just some service firing up data to check something. And I too can't leave my phone alone long enough to do good tests. Though today and last night I managed to get some good logs exported with good results.

Edit

I'm very jealous of how good the inspire idle power is compared to older phones. The fact that you are seeing readings of -1mA is just excellent.
[HTC Inspire 4G] acPIZZA:
One battery thread claimed it was "heavy on CPU". Does this have to do with sync at all or is it separate?
[HTC Inspire 4G] oFUNGUSo:
Consistsntly geting 20+ hours with 2 hours of screen on. Satisfied.

sent from my Inspire
[HTC Inspire 4G] Mustang302LX:
Yesterday I got 16+ hours until I hit 17% battery. I'm running CM7 and I was using the phone quite a bit playing games and web browsing/texting. I'm happy!
[HTC Inspire 4G] metaldood:
I was in similar state. Lost half without turning the screen on in 3 hours. I did not know about current widget so I did not wait to find out. I went back to leedroid. Now I get 14 hours with normal to moderate usage of surfing/phone calls.

I installed current widget but I cannot find the current usage?
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
what is your current draw during idle times when phone is sleeping? start with that. then second is to use system panel, enable monitoring, and track each app and what it's doing with CPU, and you will find the culprit.
[HTC Inspire 4G] texas-saluki:
guys

how are you getting readings so low? I have my wifes I4G and it is -256mA usually it looks like....down to -174mA when it goes idle. I have GPS turned off currently, wi-fi and BT.

metaldood are you syncing with exchange? I wonder is this makes a difference?

It is currently stock and was waiting for a few of these ROMs to come out of beta before rooting... but maybe a root to remove some of the ATTM application maybe in order

Any ideas? HTC sync was never setup so I would not think that is it... unless it is pinging the server until I do??

She only gets a few hours with the phone before it dies and is ready to get an iblow....which I cannot let happen :D
[HTC Inspire 4G] hiltun:
If this is while the phone is on? The screen will draw this much if not a little more.

Have you enabled logging mode and let your phone set with out touching for 30 to a hour?
[HTC Inspire 4G] metaldood:
What does 'HTC Sync' sync? I just want gmail to autosync and that is all.

I use Juice defender set at every 30 mins to sync. Is that ok?

I have installed current widget but cannot see the mA at all. All the time I see 0mA. Also the log file does no show anything.

I am at 27% with 0 calls, 0 messages. An hour browsing, 5 mins of 3D gaming.
[HTC Inspire 4G] hiltun:
if you just want gmail to sync go to.home > menu > settings > accounts and sync then disable everything you don't want.

From what Ive seen HTC sync let's you know when there are new widgets and sounds as well as other stuff are available to download.

When mine shows 0% is when my phone is plugged in.

Do you have an app killer install or RAM manager?

You could try reinstalling current widget.

Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
Your reading is a screen on reading. Idle will be around 5 or 10mA. Screen on lowest is around 90 and max brightness around 400mA.

Use current widget to take some idle readings. The battery driver itself only updates current once a minute fyi.
[HTC Inspire 4G] metaldood:
I reinstalled the widget. Whole day I am seeing 0mA.

The log file does not show anything. Same with the graph.

I disabled Autosync for HTC except for gmail. Let's see if that helps.
[HTC Inspire 4G] codyperez86:
I rooted my HTC and running coredroid 5.0 battery doesn't seem to bad gets me through the day surfing web and playing games, also playing music,texting,and calling. But I want better and if u can manage setcpu then I hear you can save a lot on battery.

Herds my question. Like I said I'm running coredroid 5.0 and I can't use setcpu. Is their a kernel somewhere I can use with the coredroid. Also I think its a good Rom and all but what I mainly want is speed. Maybe thinkin about going back to Android 4g I think my phone ran a bit faster and smoother.

Any feedback?
[HTC Inspire 4G] orb3000:
My batt lasts a bit more than 36 hrs using WIFI 2hr, a lot of calls, a bit of music and 30min of 3g connection
[HTC Inspire 4G] texas-saluki:
I ran the current wiget for about an hour and the lowest I see is -37mA

Any idea what maybe sucking that much?

2011/04/01 05:10:12,-171mA,99%
2011/04/01 05:11:12,-159mA,99%
2011/04/01 05:12:12,-158mA,99%
2011/04/01 05:13:12,-159mA,99%
2011/04/01 05:14:12,-158mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:15:12,-159mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:16:12,-159mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:17:12,-41mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:18:12,-46mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:19:13,-34mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:20:13,-43mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:21:13,-54mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:22:13,-34mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:23:13,-37mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:24:13,-38mA,98%
2011/04/01 05:25:13,-39mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:26:13,-39mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:27:13,-37mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:28:13,-36mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:29:13,-36mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:30:13,-40mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:31:13,-153mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:32:13,-53mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:33:14,-45mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:34:14,-39mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:35:14,-52mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:36:14,-53mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:37:14,-48mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:38:14,-55mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:39:14,-38mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:40:14,-50mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:41:14,-40mA,97%
2011/04/01 05:42:14,-37mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:43:14,-37mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:44:14,-36mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:45:14,-50mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:46:15,-56mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:47:15,-48mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:48:15,-37mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:49:15,-42mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:50:15,-39mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:51:15,-35mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:52:15,-45mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:53:15,-49mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:54:15,-37mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:55:15,-42mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:56:15,-40mA,96%
2011/04/01 05:57:15,-39mA,95%
2011/04/01 05:58:15,-55mA,95%
2011/04/01 05:59:15,-34mA,95%
2011/04/01 06:00:16,-228mA,95%

I have GPS turned off...bluetooth and Wi-fi. There is not much left.:eek:
[HTC Inspire 4G] hiltun:
Could be an app that has not shutdown properly. You could try restarting your phone and doing the test again.

I remember reading that restarting your phone a few times will lower the current draw. But I'm not 100%
[HTC Inspire 4G] texas-saluki:
hmmmm, yea that could be a idea. Just like troubleshooting windows, first thing I tell people is to reboot ;) I will give that a try and post some results later

Thanks
[HTC Inspire 4G] hiltun:
I enabled the process logging last night in Current Widget but every timestamp had the same process running not matter how much current there was.

LoL

leedroid could be causing problems. Ask someone else that is using leedroid and see if Current Widget works for them.
[HTC Inspire 4G] r_3:
I just got a day and 6 hours (30 hours total) out of mine with screen brightness to about 20-30% wifi on and juice defender running AR 3.3 running at 1.2ghz
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
i dont know but i had the same problem. a few weeks ago, no matter what, my current readings were at -50mA for the whole 8 hours overnight. so i finally just flashed a complete new fresh ROM and started over, and now current shows -5mA during overnight.

i dont know what was causing the original issue. starting over is something i never do. but in this case it was worth it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
that means that the current file is not present, or the app cant find it. likely because of a ROM you're using.
[HTC Inspire 4G] hkwong:
is that standby? i can barely get 8hrs from my device, and iam using coredroid
[HTC Inspire 4G] hiltun:
I'm guessing it's mostly standby as I can only get about 2hours screen on time before I get to 20%.

Have you tried fully charing your phone before you go to bed and then unplug it from the charger and let it idle over night while you sleep?

I'm 94/93% after about 8 hours of standby time.
[HTC Inspire 4G] hkwong:
ill try that tonight. do you happen to know if the htc sense can drain the battery? im considering a non-sense phone
[HTC Inspire 4G] ZeroX131:
What are reasonable mA readings for idle with data off? Should we be expecting around -5 mA?
[HTC Inspire 4G] hiltun:
Yes <5ma while idle. I get bursts of about 150ma every hour or so.

Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G
[HTC Inspire 4G] magnumrt562:
My Inspire with MIUI lasts longer than my craptivate, by far. I had every tweek, ROM, kernel, UV and lowest brightness, no synching anything on the Samsung and my Inspire with auto brightness and the exact same usage blows it away! With a smaller battery and bigger screen? WTF
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
The thing is, though, for me at least, is screen-on time. I'm rooted stock atm, and even though the phone does really well when in stand-by, I look at the total amount of screen-on time I get between charges.

All the ROM-based power consumption tweaks in the world won't make the screen suck any less power, it seems to me. The only thing that can affect this would be turning down the brightness.

(Though if you make all the other stuff more efficient, then I guess that more screen-on time would result, now that I think about it.)

I'm quite possibly talking out of my ass. It's been known to happen at this time of night. ;)
[HTC Inspire 4G] EtherealRemnant:
Okay I fought at&t tooth and nail for hours for this phone because of the *positive* comments, now you're telling me that I won't be able to get a full day out of it? My Captivate has a better battery? ****!

So Cappy = 16GB ROM, 512MB RAM, SGX540.

Inspire 4G = 4GB ROM, 768MB RAM, Adreno 205

Adreno 205 < SGX540. What am I missing? Sounds like a downgrade other than the RAM since my Cappy will go two days usually unless I talk on it for 6 hours, in which case it dies after 6.25 hours.......

A I missing something? It sounds like battery is as bad as the Evo with WiMAX turned on... which is pretty ****ing bad.
[HTC Inspire 4G] natalecalandra:
Battery Life

With moderate use I get about 12-14 hours of use. I found that If your using a task killer app it kills the battery faster. This happen to anyone else?:confused:
[HTC Inspire 4G] acPIZZA:
There's no need for a task killer on Android 2.2 task killers are not necessary anymore
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
I had a captivate. I used my upgrade on it, in fact.

Inspire came out, paid 400 off contract, full knowing that it had a smaller-capacity battery/battery performance was not the greatest, that the memory/storage/hw specs (on paper) were less. And I still did it, with no regrets. Why?

It's a better phone experience on the whole. With supposedly inferior hw specs, it's FASTER than the captivate, out of the box. Considerably.

The screen isn't quite on the level of the captivate, but it's close, and the bigger size of the inspire's screen makes up for it.

And the gps works. Out of the box. Like a champ. And the phone stays on, if unlike a lot of captivates.

I *trust* the inspire. I always felt like the captivate was one step away from taking a **** on me, and having to beg the captivate to get a gps lock, only to watch it vanish soon after, was not very comforting, when I was lost driving around.

It really depends on your usage. If you do a lot of stuff requiring the screen on @ full brightness, you're going to see your battery drain quicker, obviously.

I can unplug at 8am in the morning, and be at about ~20% remaining @ 10pm, with about ~4 hrs of that being screen-on time, at auto-brightness, one or two phone calls, WiFi on only as needed, gps off, mobile data off.

And that's stock. YMMV.

But a downgrade, the inspire certainly is NOT.
[HTC Inspire 4G] acPIZZA:
THIS. I'm stock as well and am pretty sure I'm going to stay that way. Phone performs excellent, and battery has been excellent. No real desire to start flashing this rom with that radio blah blah blah. It's treating me great now, and if it ain't broke...
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
I'm with ya on that one. I've ****ed up way too many things that worked just fine prior to my implementing an "enhancement plan." ;)

Rooting was the only "must do" for me, pretty much required with any new phone, IMO.
[HTC Inspire 4G] cappyandroid:
I'm using Android Revolution and I'm getting less than 8 hours. About 7, 7 1/2 hours from some minor texting, e-mail, web, and playing music with dolby mobile.

I'm guessing it's time to switch ROMs? :/

EDIT: In relation to the above posts, I switched from a Captivate too. I hated* my Captivate. Inspire just works.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
How much of that is actually screen-on time, though?

It's important to look at that, IMO, at least for the discussion in this thread, to give some context and proportion to some of these individual stories.
[HTC Inspire 4G] FirefighterDown:
1mA drain with this rom and default radio.

u jelly?
[HTC Inspire 4G] P00t:
when I use my phone on (wifi, display-automatic, games) battery would die in like 5hours. when its on standby mode, i can say it can live up for like 1 week, if i dont use it at all
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
that's pretty good. i got 1mA drain on the stock ROM as well, but it usually hovers at 3mA or so on stock.
[HTC Inspire 4G] happyaray:
Yeah, but what's the point that you bought this phone without using it? LOL

But I would like to see how long it can last without using it.
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
Wrapping these all up in the same post because they are related.

I have found that the battery indicator is pretty inaccurate and will jump from say 15% straight to 10%. This goes for the stock battery usage meter in settings, display in the top right on the staus bar, battery widgets, and even setcpu. Anyway to make this actually accurate and provide real time indication?

Also I have been playing around with setcpu and Juice Defender and have found that they essentially do the same thing. They both under clock the CPU at certain times except setcpu doesnt disable wifi and other things. I figured it would be bad to run both so I disabled Juice Defender. If I have to pick one, which should I use?
[Atrix 4G General] vista1984:
circle battery widget can indicate the exact percentage.
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
Thank you sir
[Atrix 4G General] Supish:
Battery Monitor by SIMMO Publications is better than circle battery imo
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
Just as accurate as circle battery?
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
Just out of curiousity, does anyone use Juice Defender?
[Atrix 4G General] neotekz:
circle battery widget and other apps only estimates the exact percent, the atrix hardware only allows for 10% increments.
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
This is not what I have found with circle battery and battery monitor by simmo. They show exact percentages on my phone.
[Atrix 4G General] Inspiredwire:
Yeah, I use JuiceDefender.
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
Do you also use setcpu? Did you seem to definitely notice a difference using Juice Defender? Or more importantly any features of the phone change? For example every time you shut the screen on and turn it back on, does it have to find wifi again? Or what about when the screen is off, does it shut down data connections completely so that you don't even receive email notifications?
[Atrix 4G General] thunderpack:
I used Juice Defender on the atrix until recently. It worked well. I had to set to pull data for one minute every 15 minutes (and it wouldn't stop downloading at the end of the minute unless it was finished pulling what it wanted to. Sure I no longer got my email responded to the second I received it, but it made my battery last ~50% longer.

I also used setcpu to underclock when the battery was <20% and when the screen was off. Juice Defender has this feature for other phones, however, didn't seem to support underclocking on the Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] seh6183:
Thanks for the info
[Atrix 4G General] neotekz:
they will show 1% increments but these are just estimates as the atrix hardware cannot show 1%. programs like circle battery widget are not accurate even when they are showing 1%. check out the thread below.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=965682
[Atrix 4G General] ranova:
they are pretty DAMN accurate, Ive been using the circle batt widget for almost a month now.

I switched to the simmo one since it has a notification bar batt %
[Atrix 4G General] Clienterror:
I don't think people here realize how circle battery widget (and other like it work). Nearly all battery widgets just read what the system is saying which is obviously going to be in 10%'s on this phone. What circle battery and a few others do is read the actual voltage left in the battery and make an accurate % report which is why it's 100% accurate down the %. It doesn't matter what battery capacity the battery has either because every Li battery has the same full and empty voltage. So yes circle battery widget is 100% accurate.
[Atrix 4G General] CC Lemon:
^Exactly. Even without knowing that, you can just watch the circle battery widget and the reported system percentage. The circle battery widget always changes consistently with the normal system value, so at the very least it's as accurate as any of the meters displaying the 10% increments.

Not sure where you got the idea that circle battery widget was inaccurate. Like I mentioned above, anyone can observe that it is consistent with the system report, so it at least averages out to be fairly accurate for every 10% block.

Another thing to remember, though a small detail, is the fact that the system displays increments of 5% starting at 15%. That doesn't change much, but that means it's not only 10% increments.
[Atrix 4G General] neotekz:
im not saying you are wrong here but where did you get the info that it measures voltage? even if it does im not convinced its that easy to

accurately measure capacity. why are all these phone manufactures have problem with having to recalibrate batteries and wiping stats? why not just always measure voltage and always have accurate numbers?

im no expert im just going with what designgears posted in his thread. he is a developer that made lots of roms with very accurate battery monitor that i used for my captivate. he was trying to make one for the atrix but was told that the hardware only supports 10%. if its was as easy as measuring the voltage then why didnt he just do that?

ive used circle battery and battery monitor that both showed 1% increments for a few weeks and noticed that it was not very accurate. its hard to explain but when i was using the phone it would decrease at a steady rate then when i have the screen off for a few mins it would quickly drop 2-3% (within the few mins that i had the screen off) then it would slow down again, this is why i think its an estimate. dont get me wrong its not too bad for an estimate but if you ever used cognition rom or any other roms on other phones with good battery mods you will see what a really accurate battery monitor is, you can set a timer to it...
[Atrix 4G General] Clienterror:
I've had a Captivate since release back on July 17th (or 18th I forget) so I fully understand who DG is (And I'm not to happy he jumped ship completely on this phone like he did but it's his choice and it is what it is). Ok so even though the hardware on the Atrix isn't capable of reading the battery in single percents only in 10's it still reports the actual mV of the battery. If you open "Spare Parts" app for example and go to "Battery Information" it displays your current mV of your battery. Now almost all modern Lithium Poly batteries are considered "Full" at 4.2 mV (Obviously this can vary slightly even within the same battery for the same phone model due to manufacturing tolerances) and "Empty" at 3 mV (I think it's REALLY dead at around 2.5 mV but the phone has a built in safety feature to prevent this because if it drops to low the battery wont even take a charge). Here's a link Lithium Poly Battery to this data. All the Circle Battery Widget is doing is assuming your battery is at 100% at 4.2 mV and 0% at 3 mV, then if just divides your current mV by 4.2 and turns the decimal into a percent and now you have your display %.

Now the reason it may drop faster like you said is because the phone OS itself reports the battery mV and I doubt it checks it every second. So say the phone OS checks the mV every 5 minutes (Just guessing I have no idea) and it reports RIGHT before you play a game or a few youtube videos then you stop playing (phone still shows the same percent) and put your phone to sleep then wake it 2 minutes later and now you've lost 2% battery "Doing nothing" but really the OS just didn't refresh your battery mV before you turned the screen off.

As far as how I know Circle battery widget does this is basically common sense, obviously it isn't it getting info directly from the system battery percent because it won't read any more accurate than 10's. The only way it could get even a relatively accurate percent is by the method I stated above because obviously most other battery meters are just repeating whatever the system is stating in 10's.

That's basically all I've gathered about how it works, I could be completely wrong and if I am I'd love to hear from someone who actually knows because I love to know how stuff works :p
[Atrix 4G General] hluk:
can you share your settings for jd and setCPU when you used it? sounds like you had a tweaked out well.