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[A7 General] netstat_EVO:
If it happens again, hold the power button in for 15 seconds to force shutdown.

Good to see another A7 owner in RI
[Off-topic] The Dogan:
With these new dual core phones coming out that are capable of outputting 1080p and 3D content doesn't this mean we'll be able to start using them as HTPC's provided we can connect external storage to them?

You might want to add an infared port for a remote or something but everything else is there.

The box would only need to be slightly bigger than an external hard drive if you wanted to include the storage as well.

Opinions?
[Off-topic] sssstaticccc:
old point. good point.

if I could have one device and dock it everywhere.

EVERYWHERE

I wanna dock it to the SHOWERHEAD
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Already done.

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[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
- US-based Sprint tech support agent, on troubles with the EC05 update
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
LOL WOW:) :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] Ma$etas:
if this continues will never get 2.3. they should just drop 2.2 all together and go directly to pushing 2.3 update instead or 2.4 which ever
[Epic 4G General] ericizzy1:
EC05 or newer version?
[Epic 4G General] DangerZone1223:
Seriously? They'll have another update on the 1st? If so, I hope it's an update to the brightness/battery life. If that's the case, I'll be happy as a clam!

Nice job, Samsung! Honestly!
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
They should offer us all free upgrades to nexus s's <----- LOL

but for real .... we deserve it they F'd us over huge on this phone....
[Epic 4G General] Quis89:
Lol...."deserve"...thats funny
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
Didn't ask and she didn't say.

Yeah right.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
WOW... Oh well.... :p
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
This stuff really does hamper the development for this phone...

Edit::: k0nane,check PM
[Epic 4G General] ptfdmedic:
Perhaps this is the solution for those on EB13..... That would make the most sense. It was stupid to release an OTA that didn't support DI18 AND EB13.... Freakin' brilliant Sprint........
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
April fools
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
LoL,you didn't let it ride out long enough,DOH...
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Does anyone know how many EB13 updates actually went through OTA? Im just thinking that they just figure anyone with that botched version has already visited the sprint store and returned to DI18... and im sure they wouldn't take responsibility for the Samsung .exe. I just hope they didn't ignore EB13 instead making updates for DG27, etc... just because they are official... they should just tell sales reps to check the OS version (lol i know), in case they have old stock that still has that preloaded. I just hope they do whatever the hell theyre going to do, and call it good. That way the real Devs here, not the paid ones, can fix/improve on what they did. I think they are just getting us all too wrapped up in updates, which is really just slowing XDA development.

*deleted rant about sprintsung.... its all been said* All I have to say, is its going to take a REALLY badass SGS2, preloaded with the highest OS version possible at launch, or Im looking at the already outdated hardware of the Nexus or see if I can deal with the non-amoled of the evo3d. These updates bum me out.
[Epic 4G General] drizek:
$250 up front, 80 bucks a month and a 2 year contract. Damn right I deserve a phone that works properly.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Lmao, April Fools for sure haha
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Lol good one

Sent from my always stock, EB13 Epic, awaiting EC05.
[Epic 4G General] SubnetMask:
I'll just be happy when CM7 is more polished than Alpha 1 (Which is remakably good for a first alpha) and fully usable. The heck with Samsung's updates.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
you sly devils ;)
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
That was a good one konane. You had my blood pressure rise and i was getting very angry. You got me for sure.

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] aleph23:
12 maybe 13.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
Unfortunately, this isn't a joke.
[Epic 4G General] ryno502:
Whats wrong with EC05? Its running great for me.
[Epic 4G General] aleph23:
Nice for me too. I ran it for a day before switching to midNIGHT. Only problem I saw was when you go to camera > update firmware camera dies and has to be shut down with a third party app our reboot.
[Epic 4G General] blu9987:
whats so bad about this phone?

the AMOLED screen?

the keyboard?

swype?

the GPU for games?

Touchwiz?

Compare it to the EVO and its bloated HTC sense nonsense and ugly faded screen. Ya the evo has MIUI and CM7 but thats the devs not stock. The epic is good enough as it is. I don't even care that it took so long for froyo I hardly notice any difference.. nothing worth crying 6 months for......
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
When they sold this to me they said Froyo will be release in the next month or so ......

here we are 6-7 months later and they can't put out a decent upgrade without screwing something up which is why our development is so F'd up (IMO). Its a GREAT phone but it's outdated now
[Epic 4G General] burgerpimp07:
You really feel like its outdated? What features from newer phones do you think justify making an upgrade? I don't think I will be buying a new phone until the current top phone on the market really outshines the epic.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Lets see

Nexus S = Pure Android, Sammy not Fk'in up our updates. CM7 ported on release day, Developer phone.

Evo 3D = 1.2 GHz dual core, The Dev community behind it, and sprint will be riding it hard.

I think these are great reasons to upgrade.... even though the nexus s has almost same hardware the development behind it will be amazing...

O and no wobble on either of these phones 8)
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Then the joke really is on us,how long do we need to put up with this. Like I said this slows development,and has to be the worst update in history atm...
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
As awful as Samsung has been, they still are better than Motorola to Cliq, and other low end owners permanently on 1.5 (wince) and Sony Ericsson Xperia owners 1.6 (double wince since the phone came out this year in the US)
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
When I said worst update,I meant just trying to get out an update that has been well over due and promised; This makes the fourth attemp at FROYO and I'm counting the Dec/26 semi attempt...
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
As an optimist, I just look at it as getting my moneys worth, I mean no other phone has had 5 OTAs, even if 4 were failure...
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
You all think it will just be Ota for those on eb13 or a whole new update?

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] burgerpimp07:
As for Nexus S, it sucks that we get no support and updates suck balls, but it doesn't make me hate the epic, or make me want to pay for a new phone.

Evo 3D dual core, great, but my phone is already running blazzing fast with no hiccups on SFR ROM w twilight kernel and doesn't leave me wanting more speed. Anything I run on my phone that is CPU intensive has no lag. IMO, the only difference I would notice is better benchmarks. Also, updates suck, but I still wouldn't dish out money to buy a new phone just because we don't have a stable/official froyo yet, or when we do get froyo, because we don't have gingerbread.

Just my two cents, I'm sure many people may not agree with the way I think, but I'm not saying I wouldn't TRADE my epic for another phone though.:)
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Yes i see your point it depends on what you want in the end....

i'd rather have the Nexus or the Evo either at this point...

Samsung/Sprint screwed us over.

and i don't think anyone can debate that.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
EC05 is pretty damn good on my phone. If they could fix the android-wide TWS bug (yes it is hurting my battery life on EC05,) and maybe improve battery life a little it would be perfect.

If they release an update every month for the next year it would be fine with me as long as each one is a little better that the last.
[Epic 4G General] burgerpimp07:
I agree, I would trade my epic, but I sure as hell wont be paying for a new phone anytime soon.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
Lol. Konane calling sprint for help is laughable. I would imagine sprint would call him for support evry now and then!
[Epic 4G General] abduljaffar:
quit kissing arse! Troll!
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
LMAO at the sig! Did abdullah make that? Why I gotta have the lipstick tat!
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Speak of the devil.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Update or no update I'm getting tired of this happy horse****. I suspect dev's are as well. That shiny new Nexus S is looking better and better every day. ;)
[Epic 4G General] garr741:
Don't be so quick to switch to that Nexus S.... who knows how long Sprint is gonna build & support the WiMax network?! LTE is right around the corner which means, possibly, even better phnes!
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
I just want a stable cm7
[Epic 4G General] antila:
Had no problem with it. Updated to EC05 manually.
[Epic 4G General] aleph23:
I have ALWAYS had the TWS bug, but its been gone since EC05 (midnight now, but ran stock for a day wo trouble too).

Personally I give huge props to Sprint for freeing us from touch wiz finally. Sprint ID is a nice idea for non-power users who don't frequent xda. All in all I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised with the new update.
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
I'd put money on there being at least 3 more generations of phones before this begins to happen. If everyone put off today's devices for tomorrows, one would never get a phone.

LTE, if coming, certainly won't roll out overnight. This isn't anywhere near being a concern at this point!
[Epic 4G General] abduljaffar:
hello. How r u doin? Im new. I like epic.
[Epic 4G General] Dsparil:
In other news, our CM7 port is coming along nicely. At the pace things are going, we'll all be sporting Gingerbread soon.
[Epic 4G General] futureprospect:
Yeah, without 4G. :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] deano0714:
Its very complicated... if you think its easy show us and do it the you have the right to say that.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Actually, thought they announced a gingerbread update for the xperia recently?
[Epic 4G General] crazynotion:
There will always be something better coming out next month, buy your tech today and enjoy it!

With that said, the LTE switch will likely hit sooner than later. Say what you want about the echo and arrive, but those are $200 phones on contract with not a hint of Wimax, that to me is interesting. Why wouldn't you want as many 4g devices out as possible? Leverage against clearwire? Who knows.

As for the update... hooray another update I may or may not do. My phone is floating on Bonsai, I am happy (thanks guys), I have no TWS bug, and if I ask my phone to do something it complies. Either that or this is just an elaborate ruse leading up to an April Fool's joke.
[Epic 4G General] EmoSaga:
The heck with Samsung's updates =P I'm happy with SyndicateROM Frozen.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
Unlocked European ones only.
[Epic 4G General] Maui4x4:
I'm quite happy with my ACS ROM that I don't give a dang for update notices anymore, the devs here haven't let me down yet. :)
[Epic 4G General] rando991:
It's possible they sent this in 2 waves "DI18 to EC05" and "EB13 to EC05." This may just be an "EB13 to EC05" start push. That way they could narrow problems people might have with receiving the upgrade...who knows, I'm just guessing.
[Epic 4G General] burgerpimp07:
I don't think so. That would make too much sense.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I guess people are finally happy with their Epics. The prevailing rant has gone from...."hurry we need another update" to "damn it, here comes another update".:D
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
I think that is exactly what it is

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] rickthrust:
i can not tell you how sorry i am that i sold my EVO and bought an EPIC (off contract). Samsung has done a TERRIBLE JOB supporting this phone. honestly, releasing 2.2 9 months after the EVO? and then, when the rest of the free world is looking forward to 2.3, you release a garbage heap 2.2. i really wanted to get the Galaxy S 2, but you can forget it. HTC's resolution seems to have turned the corner and their software support/updates are fantastic. so it'll either be a Optimus 2x (in whatever flavor they give to Sprint) or an EVO 3D. Samsung, you have lost a paying customer forever. oh, and BTW, i am running the Alpha release of CM7 and even with the laundry list of things it wont do and the insane battery drain, its still better than EC05. and if you think i am going to run 2.1 in this day and age, you're insane. thanks guys, really.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I swore I wouldn't sink to the level of these freaking haters on here, but you can only read so much of this whiny crap before it just pisses you off. I'm sorry your phone doesn't do it for you. Go enjoy your crap camera-crap screen HTC, and be sure and get insurance cause it will die at least twice before it's obsoleted.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
[Epic 4G General] lafronz:
+1
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Im confused is the update real or an april fools joke?
[Epic 4G General] drizek:
I remember reading these "don't let the door hit you on the way out" posts on the Palm Pre forums and the Nokia N800 forums.

All three devices are quite heavily flawed, and I don't think the attitude is appropriate. Palm, Nokia and Samsung all under-delivered and didn't give us the product they promised us. There is nothing wrong with people being upset about that. I personally wish that I had bought the Evo on launch day and never bothered with the Epic. The Evo hardware is a little obsolete, but at least the phone works properly. Also, at least HTC enabled all its features, like HDMI out. The Epic can do HDMI, but Samsung just can't be bothered to add support for it. It's bull****.

I can't get over how cheap the Epic feels as a result of hte sliding keyboard. Every time I pick up an iPhone or an Evo they just feel so much more solid. But at least the Epic doesn't feel like it is going to snap in half like the Pre...
[Epic 4G General] snowmanwithahat:
I couldn't agree more.

I'm picking up a nexus just to get rid of this sliding keyboard and the extremely loose screen my phone has as a result. It literally feels like it's about to fall apart.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
I just wish the hardware was better on my old Pre. I'd still be happily using WebOS.
[Epic 4G General] T-980:
When I was deciding to buy an EVO or an Epic, I looked at hardware only. After buying a Hero when I first started with Sprint and how long it takes companies to produce an update, I cannot stand staying stock any longer. All the reviews I read and watched all said the same thing: Great hardware, crap software (not exact words).

I've said it once and I will continue to say it many more times. I find it very sad that a company such as Samsung PAYS people to work on this type of stuff but yet, devs here on XDA usually pump a working version out within a week or two and do all of this in their free time, only asking you to buy them some coffee in return.

If companies had any sort of brain they'd be looking into contracting this kind of work out. Obviously their in house devs can't do the job, so why not take the route of letting some forum devs get the job done? I know there could be problems in this but come on! Personally, it never looks good that a company takes nearly a year to release some software when others can do it in a fraction of the time...for free.

Epic in a nutshell: Awesome hardware, crap software :D
[Epic 4G General] taminrob:
Huh...must be in the wrong thread...I thought this was about the possibility of another update coming out...I didn't realize I had gotten redirected to the Samsung/Epic ***** page...wonder how that happened...
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Lmao +11111
[Epic 4G General] drizek:
Maybe if they actually put out the update, people would stop *****ing.

I have to say though, I'm pretty happy with EC05. On the other hand, the i9000 got another gingerbread leak today. There is no reason why we have to suffer with ha half-baked froyo when this hardware is fully capable of running gingerbread.

I think the reason why people are *****ing is because while we all expected samsung to be a little sucky at updating their phones, nobody expected them to be this horrendously bad at it. The Droid 2 and Droid X are going to get Gingerbread OTAs any time now, and we still don't have Froyo OTAs.
[Epic 4G General] b15love:
Lol we are "suffering"?.. you have no one to blame but yourself. you knew samsung isnt the best at updates, yet you still bought it. I purchased it simply because of the screen,keyboard,gpu, and cameras. If all you cared was about updates, then buy a nexus or a motorola. but no, ppl just buy things out of spontaneity because its the "cool" thing right now.
[Epic 4G General] drizek:
I would have bought a nexus or a motorola, but sprint doesnt have any.
[Epic 4G General] younggangsta_s:
Nexus S is a downgrade. Can't even shoot HD video and no removable SD card.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
Capable of shooting 720p video just like our phones, just not enabled in the Stock camera app, just install another. But even then why bother, HDMI isn't enabled on our phones so it's just more pointless e-peen comparing.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Like i said depends on what people want in a phone... me i'd be satisfied with basically same hardware and the best software....

But i'll be getting the Evo3D that 1.2 Dual core has me drooling also i like the design.... don't know what it is plus their community is pretty huge
[Epic 4G General] parasense:
Quite likely. The official statement from the sprint forum mentioned something about that. That eb13 users would come one or two weeks after the di18 -> ec05.

Indeed, my ota was busted so while at the sprint store the tech was forced to flash eb13 to my epic and stated that in another week they would have the update.zip for over-the-wire update.

So it seems much more likely sprint/samsung have put a stake in the ground and determined to get all epic on froyo (ec05).

Makes sense too. Future incremental updates become easier since there would be fewer delta or touch points to have break. Aka less thrash and churn to cause pain.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
I have always found this view HUGELY amusing. Not directing my comment at you, just a general response, using your quote as a reference.

Here I am with an Android phone, on an Android hacking site, that has had a 2.2 version for the Epic since, well, December of last year, (almost 4 months ago) and people still complain about "slow" official updates.

WTF! Why would any serious android owner cry about the slow updates, when modded versions have been out for an extended time-frame?

If you walked into a Sprint store TODAY, you can still not buy a phone with better hardware than the Epic. Nexus S, a step DOWN in hardware, as it is missing SEVERAL key features. The EVO, it has never been as good as the Epic hardware wise. The EVO 3D, not available for MONTHS.

If you bought the Epic on release day, you had to wait only a couple months for 2.2 (DK28) and were able to have it running since then.

If another update comes out, awesome, if it doesn't, so what, the only REAL update I am looking forward to at this point is the GB release for the Sprint's new Nexus S, as it should be a great help to the Epic's CM7 project.

Otherwise EC05 is running awesome, with no real outstanding issue.

The ONLY gripe I have EVER had with my Epic, is lack of TV Out.
[Epic 4G General] epicblows:
Man forget 2.3 and 2.4 gingerbread! I want icecream sandwhich. It will be out this summer.
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Me, too. DLNA is a joke when you're visiting family and want to quickly share videos of your kids with those who want to see them.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
I hope in the future it won't be - it's a great idea, and if people would just support it...
[Epic 4G General] drizek:
The problem is the lack of format support in consoles. DLNA would be very useful if Microsoft would let us play our videos on the XBOX.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
So is there no hope for TV out or USB to HDMI out?
[Epic 4G General] robr81:
another update... it better have something amazing then because i am perfectly situated right now sitting on ec05 and SyndicateROM Frozen 1.0.2 :D
[Epic 4G General] lancelane:
no jokes

I didn't think developers had a sense of humor. LOL

Epic with Syndicate Frozen 1.1, I tried the rest, now I'm on the best.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Ok, so after thinking about this a little it seems to me that there is no way they are releasing an update on a Friday. I wonder if this is in fact the end date of the EB13 to EC05 update, and whoever was konane's source misconstrued the info.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
I definitely think its just eb13 to ec05 update

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Personally I think the 12th poster had it right...
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
Sure we do! ;)
[Epic 4G General] Sigkill-9:
150% agree!
[Epic 4G General] Sigkill-9:
Yeah, me 2... I'm on a custom rom also and happy with that. This "update" is gonna have to do something amazing like my freakin dishes, or laundry, for me to want it... I'm done waiting around for them to fix what should've been fixed last year.
[Epic 4G General] dreamsforgotten:
couldn't agree with you more.
[Epic 4G General] epicblows:
We want fast updates because google releases updates so fast we want the latest version. I myself am happy with stock. Rooting can void the contract and then the user has to pay the etf.
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
I'm confused now. I thought the intent of this post was a joke but see many people taking it seriously.

Is this or is this not a joke? Old decaying minds want to know.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Because the OP is a very well respected developer, and he followed up on page 3 I think with:

I'm guessing it's not a joke. However, his source could have got it wrong. We'll see. Either way it's no big deal, just something else to rant about. :D
[Epic 4G General] epicblows:
it would be called ED01...

guess oour phones would have ED then also!!!!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
ED01 would mean that the build was finished on april the 1st, not released on april 1st.

Sent from my always stock, EC05 Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] Orbiting234:
Lol. Or worse yet, our phones turn into ED209 ^_^
[Epic 4G General] akacinna:
I got the notification for a Froyo update around 11:00am PST. It has been bugging me just about every hour to install the update.

I'm on the custom Bonsai rom. I have to go back to stock to install this update don't I? The question beyond that is, how do I disable the update notification if the update isn't worth using.
[Epic 4G General] Shoulon:
How did you get a update notification on bonsai rom? =/

your on Bonsai...v4 (EC05)?

or EB13? or maybe you didnt wipe before going stock to custom rom?
[Epic 4G General] nimaim:
Ha ha, april fools!
[Epic 4G General] Robman62:
Im pretty sure its just an update for the few EB13 ppl who couldnt get updated to EC05
[Epic 4G General] epicblows:
that or our phones then just cant get "turned on" witht he new ed update!
[Epic 4G General] zentex:
why would you want the same phone without a keyboard??
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
Instant upgrades and none of Samsungs crap gps

Texted while driving
[Epic 4G General] akacinna:
I definitely wiped my phone first as I had an issue with the first install. I ended up having to unbrick it with Odin.

I'm on a recent Bonsai update. V3.0.0 (EB13)

oooo.. Apparently I forgot to check the recent Bonsai update. I'm still wondering why I got the Sprint update notification though...
[Epic 4G General] belovedson:
seriously

the most whiny, complainy bunch of individuals no matter where i go.

you cried for an update. you got one. be patient yah babie
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
I don't think it is possible to be getting a update while your running a custom rom unless the update is for the voicemail.