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[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GPhoenix:
Thanks everyone for your help! I finally gave in and did what I should have done initially...I went to the HTC website and downloaded the 2.1 RUU update and just ran that. Now I am able to get the phone operating like new!

HTC HERO (SPRINT) 2.1 SOFTWARE UPDATE | 05.19.2010

HTC Hero CDMA 2.1 RUU

I'm still curious though how come all the recovery images I was trying to load using fastboot kept failing due to data length too long or there were too many links.

Anyhow, all is fine now. Thanks again everyone and for those who have a similar issue if you spend more than a few days and can't figure how to unbrick your soft bricked phones just install the original RUU or grab the latest one from HTC and you should be able to get back on your feet again.

-GP
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidevan:
hey what ruu did you run? im trying to downgrade
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GPhoenix:
I used the 2.1 RUU from HTC's website for Sprint Hero CDMA.

Then I ran the auto rooter from:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=909258

If you are trying to downgrade I believe you just grab a 1.5 recovery image and clean your system and load it?

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=CDMA_Hero_ROMs

If that does not work, at your own risk do all your standard backups and wipe your system then grab the 1.5 RUU (RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_1.56.651.2 signed release.exe) from geekfor.me and run it. I'm only guessing that was going to be my last resort if I hadn't been able to root my 2.1 installation.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidevan:
yeah you cant root 2.1 with a certain update do it, so im trying to downgrade so i can! haha
[G Tablet General] moz90:
Selling g tab on eBay for 299.99 if ne one is interested
[G Tablet General] stoko:
You should probably wait a couple more weeks before trying to sell it for $299. They were on sale at Woot.com for $280 new on Tuesday.
[G Tablet General] LowSky:
tigerdirect is selling them new for $299 too.
[G Tablet General] Spaceentity:
I just bought on from my local Sears and they matched the $339 price of Tiger direct (I live in Florida, so after tax and shipping, it worked out to be the same price).
[G Tablet General] -BoneZ-:
My Sears wouldn't price-match TigerDirect. but that's okay. I got mine from TigerDirect for $299+$12 two-day shipping. $311 is alot cheaper than Sears' $399
[HTC Inspire 4G] TheBusDriver707:
Please realize I also have not gotten the courage to try and root it yet haha. Anyway, I was wondering if there were any apps or widgets out there that gave the phone more options to customize it? Such as changing the colors of boxes when you highlight them, different "skins"(the 3 you can download from HTC are pathetic), etc?

Also, anything to customize the battery/LED notification? I downloaded one but it wanted full accessibility...and it was just a pretty little battery widget that changed colors. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
[HTC Inspire 4G] sepherian:
Go launcher ex, and any other launcher, there pretty useful
[Epic 4G General] DangerZone1223:
I have the device on auto-brightness settings. I will say that the auto-brightness IS pretty bright with EC05. MUCH brighter than other versions. Anyone else noticing this?

I came from EB13 and I got excellent battery life. So far, today, while getting full bars:

Time on: 7 Hours 21 minutes since unplugged

Time on display: 56 minutes (86%)

Voice calls: 8 minutes

Total battery left: 32%. That's a far cry from what I was getting with EB13.

Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with this version! Although, EB13 was awesome as well. I just had a bit more force closes here and there on EB13.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Took mine off the charger around 8am with moderate use mine tanked around 6. I also live in an excellent 3G/4G area.
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
Be patient, it will get better in couple weeks.
[Epic 4G General] DangerZone1223:
Any reason why?
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Its probably the brightness broham. Try turning it on manual and keep it as low as possible. The screen is the biggest stress on the battery. The brighter the background the worse the battery life as well.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
re: waiting a while... the battery gets 'conditioned'... look up one of the MANY threads on that subject on here... some you have to be an astrophysicist to understand, but interesting nonetheless. Re: brightness, yeah, turn it on manual, set it on lowest poss setting, indoors most of the time its plenty bright, and if your ROM didnt disable it (idunno why they would) hold down your status bar and a little drop thingy comes down, slide L or R for brightness, like for outside, or if you really wanna make an EVO user sad and show off the AMOLED ;) mmmmm..... contrast ratio and black levels....
[Epic 4G General] youngpro83:
This is some of the best battery life I have gotten out of this phone period. Its so good I dont even want to flash a custom ROM. I have brightness turned down. F that auto brightness..I hate that feature. I unplugged today at 6 in the morning...Played on it before work....Played while at work.....Some more after work...A little while driving...(dont judge me):D ....... And now Im on it playing poker online. I love it. Im so serious about not flashing a custom ROM. I am loving this new update and its battery life.
[Epic 4G General] usfslacker:
This is EXACTLY my usage patterns and battery for the last 2 days. The only way I'm getting 14 hours out of this thing is if I don't turn it on once. And fixing the brightness isn't going to help me too much if it loses 80% just sitting there idle is it? I'm pretty close to just flashing it back to DI18, declining updates (or flashing the Syndicate rom from that era) and just living with it. For the record, I also had miserable battery with everything DK28 and EB13. Perhaps my phone just doesn't like Froyo?
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
No playing on the phone while driving.... lol I do it all the time too. Im on here alot while driving.

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] dyehya:
I keep hearing about not all batteries are equal I wonder how true that is. I just flashed the ACS SyndicateROM Frozen 1.0.2 and I am curious to see how my battery life is on the road tomorrow..errr...today at this point.

I know if I am using it off and on pretty constantly I get no more than 6hours with moderate activity (email, web, occasional phone call) we will see what happens now that I am on this ROM.

I told myself I wouldn't go to a non-factory ROM but this is stable, runs the processor with less power @1GHz and with the click of a button you have on-demand 1.2GHz.

A few other things I noticed is the interface is MUCH snappier even though I am using the TouchWiz launcher and the "Fully Loaded" Version I can't wait to see how it goes.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
After 2 days on EC05 my battery life is ok, but not as good as when I used a custom undervolting kernel. After 12 hours I'm at about 40%. Today I'm going to try using setCPU to run a different profile and see if it works or makes a difference.
[Epic 4G General] ksweat2292:
i havent seen good battery life since 2.1 :/ i used to get 24 hours of use with epic experience and the phoenix kernel.

no way im going back to 2.1 just for battery life. although it is the most important thing to me
[Epic 4G General] nikon120:
I have bad battery life with EC05. Tested today with only 3 texts, and two 10 minute phone calls.

8 hours of standby time and I've burned 5.25% of battery per hour.

Wifi on 99% of the time and within range. Policy = never sleep

Same usage for the weekend on DI18 I'd be around ~85% rather than my current 57%.

My battery life is even worse for work days when I have Lotus Notes Traveler sync scheduling every 15 minutes.

DI18 end % of 8 hours of work = ~70-75%

EC05 end % of 8 hours of work = ~43%
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Just to follow up, I flashed back to Bonsai 4.0 and unplugged at the same time today(8AM.) it's now 8:00p and I'm at 66% battery with just about the same amount of moderate usage.
[Epic 4G General] zenvita:
Take it in and tell the sprint rep. Maybe you could get a new battery for free. if not you may want to buy one.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Automatic Brightness says that it will hurt your battery more then manually setting your brightness. Gosh, no wonder why so many people complain about battery life. No one can read anymore. Seriously, my battery life is the exact same as DI18 as it is on EC05. Learn how to use your phone efficiently.

Also take into account EC05 is Froyo, and DI18 is Eclair. A big difference in how they have to be treated. You will hurt your battery more doing certain things in Froyo then you did in Eclair, one example is Task Killing.

And if you dare to have the nerve to disagree with me, I'll redirect you to "Poor Battery Life" threads from EVERY SINGLE DEVICE on XDA. I doubt every carrier and company is making the battery life horrible, nah just the users.
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
Does that mean we should NOT kill tasks on froyo?
[Epic 4G General] Muckrak3r:
hold down your status bar and a little drop thingy comes down, slide L or R for brightness, [/QUOTE]

See, thanks for that info. I thought that feature was disabled on froyo builds. Even with you saying it works, its very rare that it works for me. On 2.1 it was so easy to swipe and adjust it....
[Epic 4G General] evsnova74:
I'm getting some pretty good battery life with ec05 so far. Right now I'm at 13% battery and here's the usage:

23hrs 39mins

display 78%, 1hr 49mins

cell standby 12%, tws 30% (I still get that bug from time to time, but not always like before)

voice calls 7% 19mins

phone idle 4% 21hrs 50mins

I had odin'd back to di18 and got ec05 ota friday morning, still not even rooted. I keep brightness at the lowest setting and use a black background.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Yes, you should not kill task or applications at all in froyo.
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
OK - good tip. Thank you.
[Epic 4G General] Slovak65:
Then how do you exit the browser without using Samsungs program monitor to end it? If I don't do that, the browser runs in the background all the time.
[Epic 4G General] tclarkey:
I was going on 34 hours and still had 43% remaining after light/mod use. I use ultimate juicedefender with auto brightness. Even had GPS enabled the entire time. I updated to ec05 using the thread from androidcentral and don't use any custom roms.

I find the battery life slightly better with ec05 along with my wife's epic.
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
It seems to kill it on its own after a while.
[Epic 4G General] texasredrider:
Wow. I cannot believe it! The best I have ever gotten was 6 hours max from the time I unplug it, to the time i have to stick another battery in it! Awesome. I didnt think it was possible. I guess i need to read up on the battery "treats"!
[Epic 4G General] lancelane:
better

My battery life has gotten better.
[Epic 4G General] hoopsbwc34:
Just updated OTA to EC05 on Friday and ever since I get only about half the battery life I did before. I can't figure it out. Tried the TWS airplane mode fix and it didn't help.
[Epic 4G General] ss4rob:
I used to get a full day or two, now my phone is shutting down at the end of one day. What is the best way to recalibrate the battery? I tried charging with the phone off until it was full and then wiping battery stats but that didn't help. My usual tricks aren't working - suggestions on proper battery resetting?
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
I found a good way to save your battery life is to just turn off the data when you're not using it. Saves a ton.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
I gather you didn't read the manual...IIRC, its in the first 30 pages or so.
[Epic 4G General] boomerbubba:
Have you looked at which services are running? Stopping unneeded bloat services helps a lot.
[Epic 4G General] parabola949:
Battery is bad....

No matter what kernel, rom, etc I use, I get horrible battery life. I've been off the charger for 2.5 hours, down to 75%. Basically right now getting 10% per hour. This is running SyndicateROM with VisionKernel v1.1, and SPB Shell 3D.

Stock- I couldn't even make it to lunch without it dying completely. I hate this phone / battery combination, it just doesn't work for me. I've tested with many different ROMs, Kernels, etc (including stock, which is the worst).

Not to mention, with this ROM, I have the Sprint bloatware removed, I keep my screen as dim as possible, and disabled the DRM Content (I only use Last.FM to listen to music, when I do listen to music that is)... still not great battery life. It's the combination of this particular phone and it's battery.
[Epic 4G General] tatoniss:
Use the battery manager in spare parts. I'm having battery problems. I think it is related to a partial wake lock from the android system and dialer. Sensor usage is usally very high for me. Flashing back to stock did not help. Also tried with no applications installed. Also without the gallery3d
[Epic 4G General] litezout:
A little history:

-Was stock Eclair

-manually updated to EB13

-rooted

-manually updated to EC05

From the beginning battery was soso at best but I was using it a lot (new toy - had to play constantly)

Each additional update, the battery got worse... rooted to remove bloatware, didn't see much of a change

Manual EC05 update pretty much ensured that I had to charge during the day to get by.

Soooooo...

ODIN back to stock

EC05 OTA update

Rooted but left bloatware alone (I use a few apps that require rooting)

Very good battery life so far... when i plugged it in last night at 1am it had been off charge for 17 hours with monitor showing 45% remaining.

I'm not running Juice defender, I do use android assistant to turn off some start up programs... I also airplane toggle and stop the DRM service.

I'm thinking clean and lean help out a lot... update after update (with a buggy 13) can't help things run smoothly.

It's worth noting that my boss has the same phone and I did the same reload, he isn't seeing near the same performance that I am. So all batteries are not created equal imo. I ordered him one of the 1600m batteries, I'll update how he makes out.

EDIT:

So the 1600m battery isn't performing well for him either. He uses the phone a lot for voice calls, but not unreasonable and he can't get through the work day without a charge with either battery. Is this possibly a phone issue? He also says the back is getting pretty hot at times.
[Epic 4G General] tatoniss:
I flashed back to viper rom which is eb13. Most of my problems are gone and batery is much better. So maybe its an eco5 problem.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
The one thing I think most of you have done little to nothing with is the modem.

http://k0nane.info/rom/acs-eb13-modem.tar

Flash this in Odin. It'll probably solve your problems.
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
+1. Battery hates to be used. Lazy bastard.
[Epic 4G General] qbking77:
K0, you use the eb modem?
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
Nope - the EC05 modem works better for me. For some people, though, the EC05 modem is trash.
[Epic 4G General] thomasskull666:
I'm one of those people, it's pretty annoying.
[Epic 4G General] MaxPatlick:
nm, you guys have far worse battery problems than I..
[Epic 4G General] tatoniss:
Maybe the eb13 modem is better. I flashed the dk28 modem while on eco5 and still had problems. I might try it, almost don't want to after all I have had to do to get decent battery life back.
[Epic 4G General] litezout:
So to follow up on this, I looked at what his battery was getting hooked on with android assistant, and found out that at times Android System was banging like 80%... so just for grins, I re-odin'ed it and since then it's been very good. Something must have gotten tangled. Not sure if it was from an app he installed but whatever it was, so far it hasn't reared it's head again.
[Epic 4G General] bunky24:
I was using the supernova rom and I finally said fugg it and flashed back to stock and updated to ec05 now my battery last literally all day I charge it once over night. I'm giving up on roms for a while
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
The latest Bonsai rom (still in closed beta) is getting about 1% drop per hour or less in standby mode using EC05 modem.

Sent from Bonsai 7.1.3.1
[Epic 4G General] tatoniss:
I went back to eb13 and things have been much better. Just have to reboot every morning after charging
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhendershot79:
I added a new contact today (time warner) and I noticed that I had options to save the number as company main, car, radio, assistant as well as the usual home, work, etc..

When I go to edit an existing contact these new (to me anyhow) options are not there.

Is there a way to get them there?

I think it may be handy to be able to save company numbers in their own category and I already have quite a few saved as contacts
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scassel:
Looks like it depends on the type of contact that you save it as. Exchange provides all the options. Google has most and the phone even less. Least options is the SIM.

Where are you saving them to?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhendershot79:
I just looked and the time warner contact says phone and some others say google. So I guess that explains it.

Thanks
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chris_newton:
I recently flashed to 2.1 on my X10 and love it. Phone works great and love the more apps I can use now. The other day my son was playing a game on my phone & when he gave it back my keyboard for texting is all screwed up.

My keyboard is like in korean or chinese symbols, but theres a button on lower left corner that I click & makes it english letters. But it doesn't correct spelling or punctuate automatically or predict words for you. I went into keyboard settings & picked android keyboard & English ( USA ) & clicked all the quick texting & grammar fixes but they still don't work. Any help would be great.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
I made it into the beta testing but after further reading realizing it would remove root I decided not to download. I get the pop up every hour now telling me to update. Is there any way to stop this from happening?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] norcal einstein:
Just root again after the update!?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lsxrx7:
neither aRoot / superoneclick works after the update
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdaLurker:
Dont know that this really requires a new thread but you need to freeze the updater service.

Com.motorola.blur.updater
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ikenley:
Will that work if it's already downloaded, but not installed. I'm worried that if I reboot my phone now, it still auto install

Sent from my Atrix (in Australia)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Can't find that in TiBU
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdaLurker:
I'm using a program called Bloat Freezer from the market. I don't use TiBackup not sure why its not there
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Any free alternatives
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mustang302LX:
Not really the best solution but install the webtop hack lol. I have the webtop hack installed and I haven't gotten a single notice after being accepted into the beta program. Also if I go to software update in the system settings I get an error so it seems webtop hack blocks this crap.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Thankyou! are you talking about the webtop hack from gingerblur, if so what version are you running
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mustang302LX:
The webtop is a seperate addon hack that Ken added into the gingerblur script as an addon for Beta 7.7 (which is what I'm on). To me it's worth having this hack anyways as it saves you the cost of the laptop dock or the multimedia dock and it has prevented me from even being able to be told that there is an OTA for my device.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
I'm pretty sure I installed it but its still giving me the same error. Someone told me to download but install, reboot into recovery mode, press the four corners of the exclamation point and press reboot instead of apply sd:cardupdate but that didn't work for me as I am still getting the pop up
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mustang302LX:
Couldn't you just install the update and then flash the retail SBF afterwards getting rid of the OTA and the alerts both at the same time?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
I guess I could try that, it would be a lot of work getting everything set up back to how it is now though. I wonder if anyone will come up with a fix for this?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mustang302LX:
If you are already rooted use TiBu to backup all your apps and data. Restore to retail SBF re-root load TiBu again and do a restore.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
I just wish there was a simpler way:(
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mustang302LX:
Yeah but I'd rather spend some time fixing it then getting useless notifications ever hour lol.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Lol true, wish I would have waited till I saw the reviews and realized the update was nothing big. I'll keep searching for a little bit before I SBF
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mustang302LX:
I hear ya I was waiting on the install till I found out what it included. I found out and realized no thanks and then realized my phone won't let me get to it anyways haha so it all worked out well for me. Good luck!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Thanks! 10char
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drock212:
If you install the webtop hack it causes the install to fail. So if you do the mod the proceed with the install it'll fail then you simply reboot and it wont pop up again then if you do decide you want the update remove webtop mod the go to settings>about phone>system update and you'll get it back
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
I'm gonna try that I don't know if it'll work though because I think i already have the webtop mod already installed
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Installed webtop and tried rebooting but its still giving me the pop up every hour
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drock212:
After webtop mod you attempted to install then qhee you did it failed? Once it fails press corners of device to get recovery menu then select reboot and ok
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t0dbld:
Did you try removing the update from you

/cache folder? No update to install should mean no message

Sent from my GT-P1000
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Yeah the installation failed but then I'm confused on how to reboot? I pressed the power button and then pressed reboot and it seemed like it was going to work but then an hour later it showed the popup again but this time instead of showing the install popup, it showed the download popup once again so I don't know what I'm doing wrong
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drock212:
When you're at the screen with the"! " and the android click the option that says retry update or something alone those lines when it fails verification then select reboot. All of this is being done from the recovery screen.

@t0dbld I can still install my update if I wanted you think you could use it in an attempt to get keys off of it or at least a hint on getting to the bootloader? If so and if you have the patients walk me through how to snag the update
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] motorola4gatrix:
you need to freeze the updater service.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Where do I find the updater m? I looked for .com.Motorola.blurupdate or whatever and couldn't find it in titanium backup. I've tried multiple times to just press reboot at the recovery screen because it gives me errors saying I can't install the update. Can someone please help I just want my phone how it was before this update:(