[Bada Software and Hacking General] qasq:
If I would be the one who personally involved all his efforts, time, money etc to accomplish this project - I'm sure I would also be a little afraid in terms of where the credits will go to. Despite many differences between myself and AndroBada, or whoever represents Watero here - I must say that I'm impressed. As always I look at this carefully, especially when I know that there is some money needs.

As a geek person, I cannot count how many times I've heard about "hackers from xda did XXXX // developers from xda made this..." It's always been that way. I have great opportunity now, writing as a member of this community. So now think of yourself like you would be AndroBada people - would you be ready to give away all credits and become some "developers from xda" or would you like to stay in your country and your forum, to make some glory to your nation ? I think that this need to be taken for consideration - when criticism takes over our minds.

Android on Wave would be great, and I'm sure that that day will come, sooner or later. Now we just need to focus on those people. I would personally trust Watero, because his Polish like me, and I'd love to hear in some time from now, that Polish hackers from PL site made Android possible option for Wave users.

The only cause of my, hmm, bitterness I should say - is that people all over the world are so into taking. I've read this topic from the scratch, and I haven't seen any sentence that would state : " give me money or I'll kill you ".

The rules are given, afaik, and forgive me to sum all this what You were able to get :

1. AndroBada is homemade project

2. They sacrificed THEIR own money / phones + time

3. They want to proceed without telling all people about any details

- and they have rights to do it.

Nobody's pushing, you can go drink a beer with your friends, you can buy yourself new snickers for a gym or you can donate to those who are into AndroBada

Like always, there's risk that this project will end like Wavedroid. I think that even Watero doesn't know for 100% that they won't identify another problem. So there are no guaranties that the money will get anything. But as a person who liked Wave, Bada platform, and who made some steps to improving it - I will donate couple of zlotys. I think work done to this point, proven fact, also by oleg-k - gives me rights to say "that's not fake".

As an administrator of forum which I won't publicly promote here, nor by any graphics nor by words, I must say that I admire Watero. That said I must also show that I disapprove placing free, pirated software, which paired with hard work and personal charisma of Watero, and his dissatisfaction of way that our "mother forum" admin managed it - were the main reason that bada-world.pl was born.

So - If you want donate money, do it. If you don't stop spaming.

Also I greatly encourage people from AndroBada project to answer questions, I won't quote my conversations with Watero as sianko did, because it's in my opinion inappropriate.

What with algorithms that are inside CortexA8, which cannot be overridden by any kernels etc, and so called 'overclocking' can cause soft-reboot, but not any burns etc ?

Someone said that Watero lied about charging - It cannot be proven, because he said, that he keeps Wave ON, not that he keeps it all the time on charging, it's also worthless to do it as we all know... But this should be also mentioned. Someone from the inside of project should.

It's time to forget the past, and despite all those things that happened to my forum, what Watero did, we need to always keep in mind our first thoughts that we had when becoming moderators, than admins - serve the users.

I've asked all of You xda-members to give yourself a question - what would You do on Watero spot ? I will answer it now - I would make topic here, show used methods and work. But I would protect my rights to all effort I made, I would talk with admins of xda, so when they would spare the news, they would inform about bada-world.pl, donations and all that nice, creamy things that AndroBada wants. This would be fair for all sides. There are many people with hardware and knowledge on this forum that would do their best to make many people dream come true - Android on Wave.

To members - encourage AndroBada to give project free, publicly.

To staff of xda - talk with AndroBada, help them change their mind, and ensure that this project will stay Polish, which is important to them

To AndroBada - give project free, don't fry more Waves, let it to the people with maybe damaged phones, give them a try, I'm 100% sure, that benefits from this way of dealing with project will be far more pleasing that those couple of dollars, zlotys and hundreds page visits.

We live in strange times these days. What should connect people (xda) can easy thrown them apart. Android should be open, always.

Thank you, maybe now I'll put Desire in the closet, and buy myself another Wave?

Best regards

Bart