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[G Tablet General] iglaze:
Well, it's "easy" to choose. Both tablets will allow you to watch movies, play games, and listen to music.

If you want a tablet that allows you to surf the full internet (or as close as you can), allows you to customize the tablet experience as you see fit, great hardware for a much cheaper cost, and to be different than everyone else. Then go with a Gtab.

If you want a closed experience, where everyone's tablet looks exactly the same, but you have plenty of applications and games, very limited customization but with a easy user experience, and many accessories then go with a iPad.

There are, of course, lots of other things to look at, and this is overly simplifying it, but if you are in a hurry to choose, then pick one of those reasons and run with it. But if you care about your money, do the research. Read up on both. Figure out what you like and don't like. Then make a choice.

I personally have a Nexus One and an Ipod Touch. I stood in line for a G1 back in the day (wait, is it too soon to say "back in the day" for the first android phone?). I already know how both OS works with a smaller screen. So when it's time to have a bigger screen because of a want, and not a need, then I wanted to pick the one that gets my foot in the door for a cheaper monetary cost. And the Gtab did that for me.
[Nexus S General] DoomFragger:
I was heading through this toturial and many others present in the SNS forum. There seems to be some confusion regarding rooting && flash custom roms.

Being rooted does not imply that we can flash new roms. For that we need custom recovery. In several phones, we could only had a custom recovery if the phone was rooted. In SNS, we just need an unlocked bootloader and a compatible recovery. No root is needed IMHO.

Also, in this guide, as in several others, there isn't said anywhere that the custom recovery will be reverted by the system as soon it finishes booting the stock rom. I think it should be clear that we need to remove/rename the script that does that.

Still... Thanks.
[Nexus S General] trickle_on:
Brilliant. Thanks!
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
this is a very nice, but i'll suggest including the modifications instructions in this topic as well, instead of just linking it to the other topic
[Nexus S General] kursk:
This tutorial is based on AllGamer's one concerning the GT-i9020.

Im very new to Android customisation, i've just followed some toturials i've found trying to make them works, so it may be inconsistent.

As far as i know, i got some problem using the RomManager application that was asking for superuser rights in order to install new rom. This application placed a superuser-xxx-signed.zip at the root of the sdcard, but install on my SNS SCLCD never worked.

Consider using the manual way, not the RomManager application, will be more straiforward.

May be all these steps are not mandatory, but in the end you'll be able to be able to nistall new rom.

Consider it as a global package for customisation.

Never noticed that. ClockworkMod recovery has ever stayed in place, even after rebooting the stock rom many times.

Cheers !
[Nexus S General] kursk:
By the way AllGamer, i apologize for the non-agreed use of your tutorial, i was all in the thing at that time, just thinking about to end up with my cyanogen rom.

It works now, thanks to you. MIUI this evening :D
[Nexus S General] ugrubni:
hi

i also have the 9023 and tried your guide. but im am stuck at #14 because it dont find the android bootloader interface entry, there are just three adb interface driver in this list. i also cleared the driver registry with usbdeview before.

adb driver is installed and i tried to unlock the bootloader but fastboot dont recognice the phone.

and i tried it on 2 different pcs, one with win xp and one with win7, same problem on both systems

ugrubni
[Nexus S General] DoomFragger:
When I unlock my bootloader, I've downloaded the "Google USB Driver package" and the "Galaxy Tab by Samsung Electronics".

I haven't edited any .inf file. Those were the instructions I followed from this article.
[Nexus S General] ugrubni:
ok, finally i have bootloader interface installed with edited .inf installed on win7.

i tried to unlock with fastboot but it just does nothing. my nexus says

usb control init

usb control init end

standard_set_configuration

anyone an idea?

ugrubni
[Nexus S General] smoothfreeze:
Before I root my Nexus S, i got some questions to ask.

Can I "unroot" my nexus s to stock if I do this?

What kind of roms are there available other than CM7 mod?
[Nexus S General] pratishk:
Hi all,

Followed advice above, had to reinstall SDK as did not have an adpfile. SDK all fine now, but am stuck on fastboot not recognising the phone - stays on waiting for device, did a search on xda but brought up other phones and nothing that could helped me...

updated: adb devices works fine, it sees the phone with adb, but just not with fastboot?

another update:

tried usbdeview to uninstall drivers

re-installed them again, no such luck.. annoyingly adb sees the nexus but fastboot does not..

would appreciate any more ideas?
[Nexus S General] ugrubni:
i finally got it work

fastboot also dont recognized my phone

what i did is:

go to android-sdk/platform-tools folder and copy adbwinapi.dll and adbwinusbapi.dll to /tools folder where fastboot also is located and it worked.

cheerz, ugrubni
[Nexus S General] afilopou:
That's right.The script which removes Cwm recovery after reboot does not exist in i9023(slcd)
[Nexus S General] Colombus:
hi Guys

sorry about the noob question,

but actually I have a problem installing JDK,

Android SDK always give me back "JDK SE development Kit (JDK) not found."

But I did install several times...,

SDK still not recognise it.

what should I do?

thx

Cheers
[Nexus S General] afilopou:
Did you try to install eclipse and start sdk from eclipse?

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ (download this one Eclipse IDE for Java Developers)

and then read this one

http://developer.android.com/sdk/eclipse-adt.html#installing

Had as well problems, but now i am using eclipse in order to start sdk
[Nexus S General] Colombus:
thx now it's working, all good, with it, and able to setting up

cheers
[Nexus S General] pratishk:
thanks ugrubni,

worked like a charm...

now have zeroxs on my nexus sorted! :-)
[Nexus S General] Fmbl:
Hey guys,

Im stuck at part 2 "Unlock", when i run cmd and type fastboot oem unlock i get an error saying fastboot is not recognized as an in or external command, program or batchfile.

I then uninstalled all usb junk with USBDeview 32/64, i didnt quite know what to uninstall, so i just uninstalled everything, maybe a bit to rigorous?

Im in no way a tech wonder and this is the very first phone i tried to root, so if you would be as detailed as possible i would really apreciate that!

hope you guys can help me out?
[Nexus S General] afilopou:
Ok lets try to solve it.

First things first, uninstall everything related to sdk and do the part 1 from scratch.Then go to androidsdk/tools folder and check if you have a file named "fastboot".If yes (normally yes because after updating android sdk manager the "fastboot" file must be there.Also make sure you downloaded the google usb driver) then go to androidsdk/platform-tools and find the two files AdbWinApi.dll and AdbWinUsbApi.dll .Copy-paste them to androidsdk/tools .Restart your pc and try the second part.

Hope to help
[Nexus S General] Fmbl:
Thnx for your reply,

I followd everything you said, but fastboot is still not recognized, the above error message still aplies!

I do however dont get step 2 of part 2, maybe noobish but how do i get to that directory in CMD?

hmmm what to try next?
[Nexus S General] kerc:
give it a try now =)
[Nexus S General] steve_clifton:
Just an FYI, this guide works perfect for me,

root and happy

i9023
[Nexus S General] ArclightX:
Getting Pissed Now...

For the life of me I must be an idiot or something cause I'm getting hung up on the stupidest of things...

To start with I own a Telus/Koodo GT-I9020A Nexus S (The one with the SAMOLED) and doing this all under a WindowsXP Laptop

- As instructed I ignored Part 1, Step 6

- I successfully boot into the bootloader interface (LOCK STATE - LOCKED)

- I successfully get to Part 1, Step 12

- I point my device manager wizard thing manually to the "C:\Program Files\Android\android-sdk\extras\google\usb_driver" directory

- Presumably at this point the hope is that the USB drivers for my Nexus S will be discovered within the "android_winusb.inf" file

And poof that's where nothing happens, it never progresses past that because it does not find any valid drivers in the "\usb_driver" folder.

I re-downloaded "Google USB Driver package rev4" through the android manager like 6 times and still it can't find the Nexus S drivers within that .inf file.

I took a look in there myself using ultraedit and the only devices I saw mentioned in there were the HTC Dream, HTC Magic, and the Nexus One, all listed twice, once under the "[Google.NTx86]" section and once more under the "[Google.NTamd64]" section.

I found it odd that there was no entry for the Nexus S as it was my understanding that rev4 specifically included Nexus S support.

Anyways this is getting damn frustrating to say the least. I don't mind a challenge but when I'm banging my head for hours against a setback that should be as trivial as tying my shoelaces it stops being fun real fast.

Any assistance that anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
[Nexus S General] steve_clifton:
I found this guide to be a great help, give it a go

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12731117&postcount=57

the doc is good to have on your computer :)
[Nexus S General] zypz0r:
Ok so far no problems until part 4

where I get this from the CMD

What am I doing wrong?:confused:
[Nexus S General] pratishk:
@zypz0r you can just copy the file using USB and windows. Switch phone on as normal, copy file to root folder of the "sdcard" via normal USB.

Worked for me,

thanks
[Nexus S General] terryhoho:
Rooting 2.3.4 phone stuck at Google with a lock

Hi guys, how's your day going.

Phone : Nexus S i9023

I'm following this guide word by word , sentence by sentence.

Part 4

1 - Power ON the SNS

2 - Download su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip from [APP] Superuser 2.3.6.1 - Now on the Market [2010-09-05]

3 - Save it to the Android SDK "platform-tools" dir

4 - Open a command prompt go to run & type "CMD" & hit enter

5 - Switch to the directory where you unzipped the Android SDK & go to "platform-tools"

6 - Type "adb push su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip /sdcard/su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip" & hit enter

7 - Boot the SNS into the Bootloader Interface, by holding Volume UP & Power button

<b>8 - Select "Recovery</b>

9 - Then it should boot into this screen, if not then repeat the steps to download the image

10 - Select "Install ZIP from sdcard" (power button to apply)

11 - Select "Choose ZIP from sdcard" (power button to apply)

12 - Select su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip (power button to apply)

13 - Select "Yes - su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip"

stuck at part 4, point 8.

After i select recovery , The screen restart and just stuck at Google with a lock.

Can anyone kindly explain what is going on?

Thank you in advance!
[Nexus S General] Matridom:
if your bootloader is unlocked do this:

vol up+ power to get into the bootloader (Make sure it says unlocked)

Flashboot flash the CWM recovery image

Boot into recovery (DO NOT REBOOT THE PHONE)

push the superuser package

install zip from SD

then install the superuser package

Then reboot the phone.

The stock image has a script that restores the stock recovery on every reboot. you need to either rename the script or flash CWM and use it before rebooting.
[Nexus S General] danber76:
Hi guys,

superuser package isn't working for me (i1923). Installing via CWM works but titanium backup says no root. in superuser titanium backup is "green". so the phone is not rooted. tried it multiple times, no probs or errors while installing etc... what can i do.

thanks

sorry for my poor english
[Nexus S General] zero383:
I think you mean i9023.

Do you have the Superuser icon in your app list?

Try this from the market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&feature=search_result
[Nexus S General] creativedevil:
I might sound stupid, 2 questions though:

1. Is it necessary to unlock the bootloader? Or I can root my phone without unlocking the bootloader but I need it unlocked if I want to flash custom rom? What if I have some issue with my phone and want to give it back for warranty repair? Will the unlocked bootloader matter at that point?

2. I have the i9020A which is Rogers compatible version, is there 2.3.4 available for it?
[Nexus S General] Matridom:
1. Debatable, it's easier to unlock, however gingerbreak appears to work, so you could get root that way. On the flip side, you can always relock the bootloader

2. Not yet. I have a sticky going for just this reason.
[Nexus S General] creativedevil:
Thanks for the info. May I request Links to those posts please??? :)
[Nexus S General] Matridom:
They are all stickies in this forum and as such, you should be able to easily find them.
[Nexus S General] creativedevil:
Yeah, after I asked you, because of your answers, I was able to look for right sticky. Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
[Nexus S General] MrBergan:
can I just follow de 4° step to root my nexus S? I already have the 2.3.4 version.
[Nexus S General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
I felt like a RETARD but maybe the steps weren't too clear. I had 2 PCs doing this today. One was a fresh Windows 7 install too and I couldn't get it to work.

So with the drivers, you have to make sure you first install the Nexus S driver (using the same trick by pointing to the Google USB driver) when the phone is booted normally. THEN you can go into Bootloader mode and install the Android Bootloader Interface. Otherwise you can never get it to load up the Android Bootloader Interface in the list because there won't be a category for Android Phones.

Well that's what I noticed on my 2 computers today (Win 7 Pro and Home Premium)
[Nexus S General] zero383:
There's an easier way:

-boot phone into fastboot and connect usb cable

-go into device manager and right-click the android device, update drivers

-click "browse my computer" then "let me choose..." then "show all devices"

-click on "have disk" and point it to the usb driver folder

-pick ADB bootloader (uncheck "show compatible drivers" if that shows up)

-done
[Nexus S General] danber76:
Hi, sorry, of course :-)

problem solved, forgot to install busybox. now it's working :-)
[Nexus S General] nicky960:
I can use this guide with NS I9023 and 2.3.4? Thanks
[Nexus S General] seriosbrad:
Rooted my i9020A on Rogers with no issues! Cyanogenmod 7.0.3 installed now, thanks alot for the guide.
[Nexus S General] dccxviii:
Stuck at "waiting for device" after executing "fastboot flash recovery 3025-i9023.img". (for i9023)

Android SDK and drivers are installed with usbdview checked for any anomolies. Windows device manager reports entry: Android Phone>Android Composite ADB Interface.

Unclear from guide what USB debugging or USB mass storage settings are required as this effects driver loading but so far trial and error has been unsuccessful. Requisite .dll's are also copied to tools folder as per Google's change in the SDK.

This is strange considering my current setup was sufficient for unlocking the boot-loader in terms of driver interoperability.

Any ideas? >.<
[Nexus S General] pratishk:
@dccxviii it should be android bootloader adb interface not the composite one...
[Nexus S General] zero383:
Yea you installed the wrong driver.
[Nexus S General] StillDRE:
Hi guys!

I just received my Nexus S(Says GT-i9023 under the battery), and did this root tutorial.

I did everything as quoted in the first post, but I used "3025-i9023.img" instead of "3024v3-i9023.img", because download link didn't work.

My problem is getting into recovery. Just after I installed the 3025-i9023.img I got into the Recovery. Then I booted the phone into normal-phone-mode. After some testing(checked the Superuser app) I shut the phone off, and started it with VolumeUP + power-button. Then I switched down to Recovery and pushed power-button on Recovery. After some secs it just display a warning sign and a Android figure..And nothing more happend. Tried alot of boots and trying to get into Recovery, just the warning sign and the Android figure.. BUT if I dot his "fastboot flash recovery 3024v3-i9023.img" again, then I get into the REcovery the first time I try it, but the times after that I don't, just Warning and figure...

What am I doing wrong?

EDIT: Under FASTBOOT MODE(VolumeUP + power-button) it says i9020:

BOOTLOADER VERSION: i9020XXKA3

BASEBAND VERSION: i9020XXKD1

Should I followed another guide?

EDIT2:

PROBLEM SOLVED: "You can't reboot the phone, because on a stock ROM, that will restore the stock recovery"

So I had to install a custom ROM just after installing the Recovery :)

Now I just need to find my Oxygen Desire ROM for Nexus S :)
[Nexus S General] Seven9:
Hello,

I am not able to enter the Recovery mode, the phone is stuck with 'Google' on the screen when entering recovery mode. I tried copying the su2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip onto the sd-card and then access recovery - no go, I have to turn off, remove/reseat battery and turn on the phone to get it working...so no superuser rights for me?
[Nexus S General] zero383:
Reflash CWM recovery in fastboot mode, access the Recovery menu (do not reboot the phone), apply update from zip and choose the su file.
[Nexus S General] Seven9:
Hi,

Thanks Fido for help, one question, how do i access recovery menu without reboot? I am getting 'E-signature verification failed' when i try applying update from the su-2.3.6.1... file.
[Nexus S General] zero383:
Part 3 - Recovery

Do that step in the guide. No need to reboot. You can enter recovery right after flashing CWM.

Edit: Fido isn't my name, it's my provider...
[Nexus S General] mbensen:
so thats what android-guys call "open"? i tried your guide with my new nexus s and it doesnt work. may update your guide to the current versions of files needed in your guide cause some of them doesnt exist anymore.
[Nexus S General] dccxviii:
Ahhh I see. So far a search on the web only reveals how to install the composite driver. Does anyone know how to install the boot-loader driver? Or perhaps more accurately where to download it (I have already tried the google downloaded drivers from within the sdk to no avail).
[Nexus S General] zero383:
I really don't understand why so many people are getting hung up on the driver installation step. The bootloader driver is in the same usb driver package you downloaded with the Android SDK.
[Nexus S General] mbensen:
and which driver to select?

- android adb interface 4.0.0.0

- android bootloader interface

- android composite adb interface

im really frustrated right now, i just wanted to "open" my "open android" smartphone so i can install cyanogenmod. now i have to mess around with bootloaders, firmwares, interfaces, and dozends of files i never heard of. im not a rocket scientist nor have smartphone developer. im just a normal - but not stupid - android user. may you should try not to take everything for granted if you throw around all these specific words nobody expect 10-year-software-engineers understand. thanks in advance.

i dont know what do to now. my google nexus s (i9023) is bricked. cant do anything except get into the bootloader. the bootloader is unlocked. its stuck in the google boot - no - now its stuck in the yellow triangle android icon thing. it seems every threat here says something different if someone has this problem. i just want to use my nexus i just bought today. trying to root the nexus s what the worst idea ever. if android would be really open, it would be possible to open it without having a 50/50 chance to brick the damn thing.

that cant be so difficult to "open" an "open android"
[Nexus S General] zero383:
It's the Android Bootloader Interface driver.

First of all, your phone is NOT bricked. If you can turn on the phone, it's not bricked! The exclamation logo/android screen is the STOCK recovery and doesn't mean the phone is "stuck" (where you see this screen, hold the power button first then press UP volume to access the menu). If you get that screen it means you didn't flash the custom recovery correcty or that you did but restarted the phone (some Nexus S restores the stock recovery upon reboot)

It's really not that difficult to root a Nexus S. Here's a brief outline:

1) Unlock bootloader (ie. "fastboot oem unlock")

2) Flash CWM Recovery (ie. "fastboot flash recovery <filename of image>")

3) Install Superuser package from CWM Recovery

Since you say your bootloader is unlocked, download this CWM recovery image and flash it using the fastboot command above - follow the guide)

http://www.mediafire.com/?0pzz830oc0xa0e7

After flashing CWM, don't reboot the phone, choose Recovery from the bootloader menu on the phone and it should take you to the CWM custom recovery screen.
[Nexus S General] mbensen:
thanks for the response. the nexus s boots now up again into stock android 2.3.4 but wifi doesnt work. cwm 3.0.2.5 is installed.

i retried it again

1. flashboot the 3025-i9023.img onto the device

2.) booted bootloader > choose recovery

3.) installed su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip

and now?
[Nexus S General] zero383:
Wifi isn't related to rooting. If it's not working then something else is the cause. Also, you might want to elaborate on "wifi doesn't work".
[Nexus S General] mbensen:
is it possible to just reset everything as it were out of the box? i mean wifi worked before, so if its not working after the rooting it has something to do with the rooting, dont you think?

when i try to enable wifi in the settings it shows just "error" under Wi-Fi.
[Nexus S General] window7:
Please do note that you need to restart your phone once you install it :)
[Nexus S General] window7:
mBensen, Try flash your rom once again. Wipe data and cache, and also dalvik cache :)
[Nexus S General] mbensen:
now im trying to use the "factory reset" option in the android os settings

but i think this wasnt a good idea either - especially because wifi isnt working like said before. im sitting here for 8 hours and i think i cant think clear, gosh
[Nexus S General] mbensen:
can you explain this to me step by step? i mean i think i understand what i have to do, but this i thought before too and now im here, swimming with my nexus in a pool of blood, sweat and tears :o
[Nexus S General] zero383:
I didn't need to on mine... Only reason the guide says to reboot is so you can copy the superuser package onto the usb storage.
[Nexus S General] mbensen:
everything seems to work now including the superuser app is installed etc but after installing the 3025-i9023.img and the netarchy.img again wifi still doesnt work
[Nexus S General] mbensen:
i think if i could just install a plane 2.3.4 again over everything, the wifi would work again. but i only find updates on 2.3.4, not the whole firmware or a way to install the whole firmware 2.3.4

for you its so easy to do, please share your info if you know how and what to do
[Nexus S General] zero383:
netarchy is a custom kernel, it's not part of the rooting process. If that is what broke your Wifi, I can't help you. I have no experience with custom kernels.
[Nexus S General] mbensen:
so how do i install another kernel? a stock kernel?
[Nexus S General] K-SHOX:
I'm getting some weird problems when trying to root, I get up to step 11 or so but when I go into device manager to update the driver files it doesn't show me the menu with adb but gives me the first image (the second image is just lower down) and when I select 'mobile device' I get the last picture and I don't have a clue what's going on. Anyone got any idea or had the same problem?