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[Atrix 4G Android Development] Fountainhead931:
As someone said earlier, "for now" the root method is disabled, and there is no way of rooting your phone after the update "at this moment".

I have confidence everything will be OK.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mustang302LX:
Boy am I glad I decided to stay away from this "update." I got accepted but when I go to check for updates it says I need a social networking account setup. When I then hit setup nothing happens so I said forget it lol.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] CaelanT:
4.1.57

It took me 6 attempts to install during beta, and I finally found that some apps which were frozen with Bloat Freezer had to be thawed before the update would complete.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dtp777:
Just tried.Yes.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jpinoy:
I had the Droid X on VZ when it was first released, every update Moto/VZ sent out, killed the root on your phone if you were rooted, except, the DX had so much support, it was not worth stressing about as you would see a fix to root the new update within a day, look at GB on the DX, it was just released, and they already have a way to root it.. so yes, you do lose your root with the update.. unless I've been misreading all these threads on here how people are updating and losing their root.. and this update was just to fix a couple bugs, and I haven't seen any of those bugs on my 2nd Atrix.. so not worried about updating...

And yes, you can SBF back to the retail and get it back, but you did lose your root when you updated it(at least that what most people were stating after doing the beta testing), and that's what I was stating..

All in all, I'm hoping that this phone will always have the root possibilities after updates.. the official update just got released, so not sure how that is affecting root, will see when more people post the outcome of this official update..
[Atrix 4G Android Development] LancerV:
Can you upload your update.zip?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] snlu178:
this means nothing. What you need to find out is if you can mount as R/W instead of R/O.

I cannot after updating.

Really need Root access on this version. Any dev would be helpful. I am rolling back because this is a terrible waste of a phone to not have root on it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] fRenZy-_-:
If i have gingerblur and i update, would i still have the theme gingerblur has??

sent from my atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dtp777:
You are right .Not able to mount as R/W
[Atrix 4G Android Development] the_KEV:
I don't have this phone yet, but will soon. Was sideloading apps only available on this phone by rooting? Can it be done another way?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cegna09:
sideloading is always possible on any android phone rooted or not. it just requires a computer and the android SDK. rooting just makes it easier on AT&T phones where it's locked out.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dLo GSR:
if you use terminal and type "su", does the $ change to a #? that's your root indication.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dtp777:
Permission denied
[Atrix 4G Android Development] hisham2k:
Actually you do lose root. The superuser app remains in place but is useless. What you do not lose is the ability to sideload apps.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rjohnstone:
The update will fail if you have GingerBlur installed.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jkurl:
I still haven't even gotten the update notice. anyone else in the same boat.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AllTheWay:
Connect to wifi and see if you are able to get the update then.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jkurl:
man that stinks I am at work and no wifi.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PAulyhoffman:
Its not useless just needs permissions set.

cant do it from the phone with no root, but the webtop runs ubuntu.

If you have LXTerminal you can do it from there. And you will have root.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jkurl:
when the xoom got it's OTA people lost root but were able to adb it back.

can someone w/ the OTA installed w/ superuser still installed try this.

adb shell

chmod 4755 /system/bin/su

haven't heard anyone try this yet, i am sure it has been tried but it is worth a shot. I haven't gotten the update yet so i can't try.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bongd:
dtp777, could you please try this?

I got so excited reading that people still had root but then the no su access in ADB killed it lol

I was JUST about to download and install the update. Whew!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PAulyhoffman:
If you push su /tmp

then go into webtop

LXTerminal

In LXTerminal:

sudo /bin/mount -o rw,remount /system

sudo cp /tmp/Superuser.apk /system/app/Superuser.apk

sudo chown 0:0 /system/app/Superuser.apk

sudo chmod 0644 /system/app/Superuser.apk

just to add to the one already there from before.

sudo chmod 6755 /system/bin/su

confirmed root.

I can't take credit though

just make sure you get LXTerminal before you update.

i just ran the script written by Sogarth
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mjsztainbok:
I just tried it and got the following error:

C:\AndroidSDK\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools>adb shell

$ pwd

pwd

/

$ chmod 4755 /system/bin/su

chmod 4755 /system/bin/su

Unable to chmod /system/bin/su: Read-only file system
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PAulyhoffman:
that is because you haven't root.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
Is this just a temp root method? Or will this permanently root our phone?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PAulyhoffman:
I have permanent root but i just heard OTA is recalled
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dincodee:
Where did you get the recall news
[Atrix 4G Android Development] fRenZy-_-:
Will the update remove gingerblur and return the phone back to stock?

sent from my atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PAulyhoffman:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47993?tstart=0

you have to be on 4.1.2.6 to get the update
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ricardocortes10:
ok so how can i update then? i too have Gingerblur installed.. i dont want to update now but probably in the future, when they turn on "4G"..
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PAulyhoffman:
http://goo.gl/z2AII

flash sbf and say goodbye to your data
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ricardocortes10:
i have read about it, seems a little complicated though... and risky idk, is that the only way?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
Do you think you could start a new thread and provide us a detailed way to get permanent root on the new update? This thread is starting to get messy.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PAulyhoffman:
I got the root by being walked through it by another member of XDA. they are currently working a script for it.

if i get permission i will detail the steps i took.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shawnbuck:
Its possible to retain root too. I copied su into /osh/sbin/frozenfish, and was able to run it no problem after the update. Using root, delete the one that doesn't work, and copy the backup back in.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ekerbuddyeker:
can you elaborate on this a bit more. I have the betas update installed. Start to finish, how do I get root back?

thanks...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mjsztainbok:
Of course I don't have the root. The method described was in association with getting root back.

I had root before the update but not afterwards.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shawnbuck:
That particular way isn't going to work, since you've already updated. Although, I have a few ideas about rooting after upgrading I'm going to try out. I'll post the results in a little while.

It seems they have addressed the exploit psneuter uses, and prevent a normal user from setting the permissions needed for su.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] theknub:
everyone slow down, if you don't know how to do what is being described you shouldn't be doing it. paulyhoffman said that he has to ask for permission and that another user is working on an auto script. if you need root that badly hold tight and wait for it to be published.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shawnbuck:
I'd imagine that the update searches the path for su, and screws with it somehow. Changing the name of the binary seems to defeat the fix that they apply against it. I moved it into /osh/sbin before the update, can someone confirm that it will still work in /system with the name changed?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Julian713:
Hi I have System version: 4.1.26, it was rooted using aRoot worked perfect. Now if I wanted to do this update to 4.1.57, should I unroot the phone first (using the unroot file that came with aRoot. Will that remove superuser icon/app?) before doing the update (I know I will lose root). The reason I ask is if I wanted to return the Atrix after doing the new update I dont want AT&T/Moto to know I rooted (them seeing the superuser icon/app) the phone and not take back my phone back.

Thank you.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bekarhoo:
Nope, I am getting permission denied. Sigh..should have read the thread before the update. I had it renamed to /system/bin/frozenfish, now I am screwed.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] henrikpjohnson:
I just performed the update and have managed to retain super user privileges. I made sure that it was moved to /osh/sbin not /system/bin though.

I'm not entirely sure how to move it back into /system/bin though since that FS is read only, but I'm sure I will figure that out. At least I have some way of getting root in the shell. The rest should be easy.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bekarhoo:
adb shell

/osh/sbin/su (replace su with whatever you renamed)

#

(if you see above man you are lucky)

# mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 /system

Now you can do whatever you want :)

Can you confirm that putting it in /osh/sbin works? If it does, I will reflash to original retail, su and then back up to /osh/sbin and update.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eval-:
This would be great to know (whether root suid execs lose suid after OTA, only in /system/bin or elsewhere as well.) I also think I lost suid on frozenfish when I OTA'd, but maybe I messed up permissions somehow. Tomorrow I will test all combos, but if someone else does it while I'm asleep, I'd be grateful =)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] benem3000:
Check shawnbucks post... we are testing the script atm... It should be up soon as we ran into some problems but it should be fixed soon.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ciji:
Here's what I did:

Start from the 1.2.6 SBF from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991072

Renamed su to 'totally_not_root'

Removed any other copy of su

Copied 'totally_not_root' to /bin, /system/xbin, /osh/bin, /osh/sbin

Ran the OTA update

For my phone, only the /system/xbin executable got its setuid bit cleared. I can still access root from the "su" in all other directories. After restoring su to /system/bin, I still have full root, even after restarting.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
Automatic script is almost finished. I recommend waiting until it's done for anyone who doesn't understand EXCATLY what they're doing.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] psychephylax:
Is this a script for rooted users to keep their root? or a root vulnerability?

I'm a 3rd day Atrix owner and foolishly updated prematurely :mad:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rjohnstone:
It's for users who already hve root on 4.1.26.

You can always flash back to 4.1.26, root, then use the script to park root whil the ota update runs.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] psychephylax:
Is there a walkthrough on how to go back to 4.1.26?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Pirateghost:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991072
[Atrix 4G Android Development] schwann:
I just accidentally updated, and was wondering why my Gmail notification LED doesn't blink anymore...

Also, CacheMate and Root Explorer still work. However, Titanium Backup doesn't work. I can still access SuperUser also. What's up with that? Am I semi-rooted?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shawnbuck:
The apps are there, but the su binary doesn't work correctly.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] captaincanada84:
SuperUser is just an app...it will remain whether or not you're rooted. If you go into terminal and type "su" and hit enter it will say "permission denied"...which means you're not rooted.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] schwann:
Thanks. So I guess I'll just have to wait for a new root!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] gregg1ep00:
Nevermind, the nag came back on reboot... Oh well, it was a valiant effort...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
Get root on 4.1.57: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1013931
[Atrix 4G Android Development] psychephylax:
ok so i think i follow the process to get root back

reflash to 4.1.2.6

root

run the backup script

update

run the restore script

i have downloaded some apps (amazon marketplace, shazam, angrybirds)...some were special deals from Amazon. Any chance I can save these and restore them later? (without root)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] gwollmar:
francisco has encontrado alguna solucion para rootear el atrix otrz vez, si asi es te agradeceria lo comentaras gwollmar@hotmail.com soy de san cristobal tachira
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naplesbill:
When you reload the Amazon Appstore, go to My Apps and you can reinstall any apps you have previously downloaded.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] elenaran:
do we need to make a new thread for working on developing a method of getting root on 4.1.57 that doesn't require prior rooting?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] gigafast:
Is there still an effort to Root without going back to 1.2.6?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ceo.mtcl:
No

not yet. Only way is to go back to 1.2.6, root using aroot script out here, run the pre update .bat file, update run post update file. It works perfectly fine for me.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] benem3000:
You can also use mybackup root or titanium backup. I had to flash my phone several times until we got the script to work so I know a thing or two about backup and restore. Just make sure you use aroot before... The script can root the phone for you but it doesn't have sideloading and other goodies like that... Then you can backup and restore the apks.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shawnbuck:
There is also the method of getting root through the webtop lxterminal as well.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PAulyhoffman:
this method also requires root and installation of LXTerminal prior to the update.

but a very simple method
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dstech:
I updated before the script came out, but I moved and renamed a copy of su in to the /osh/sbin location (renamed to su_not_root).

I have a terminal emulator app and can run adb shell then I can execute the /osh/sbin/su_not_root file that I copied over. I get the message that terminal emulator has been given superuser privileges but from there I don't know how to mount r/w the /system/bin folder to replace the bad su file that is there with the su_not_root file.

Can someone tell me what I need to enter into the terminal emulator to finish this process?

Thanks in advance!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shawnbuck:
Thats pretty easy :)

From a command line, do:

adb shell
su_not_root
mount -o remount,rw /dev/mmcblk0p12 /sytem
cp /osh/sbin/su_not_root /system/bin
mount -o remount,ro /dev/mmcblk0p12 /system
[Atrix 4G Android Development] schwann:
Hi,

Did anyone figure out how to stop the update notification?

Edit: Never mind. Just froze updater 2.2.1 using Titanium.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] G1-8701:
how do you freeze it, i have Titanium backup and been tryna figure out how to freeze this update for the longest lol
[Atrix 4G Android Development] LayzeeEyez:
You need the pro version to freeze apps. Its worth the money so I recommend getting it :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] G1-8701:
don't have the money at the moment :(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] alistair3149:
Android should be an open platform, that's why there should be custom roms
[Atrix 4G Android Development] G1-8701:
i gave in and updated, that notification was killing my battery
[Atrix 4G Android Development] FatFingerGuy:
Uknowingly attempted update but failed with no more notification

I got the message while I was playing a game and the notification said to update over wi-fi; I assumed it was for the game and clicked download.... minutes later my phone rebooted and thats when i realized it was a system update:

the update got 1/3 of the way done then displayed the droid robot and the exclamation point triangle similar to this posts icon.

afraid that my phone was bricked I removed the battery and sim quickly and left out for 1-2 minutes then booted the phone without my sd card.

It booted up just fine then I quickly checked my version and verified with superuser app that I still had ***root***; I do and no hangups.

best part is that I get no notifications (have not got any since) that an update is available. Is anyone working on a tweak for the OFW of the new version yet?

thought i would share with you how i avoided the update for now
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
The new update has been rooted for a while now, there's really no reason to avoid the update for fear of losing root.

More info here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rab561:
you do know we talking about root on 2.3.4 not what in the post on the link u posted unless it work
[Atrix 4G Android Development] franciscojavierleon:
why are you posting here rab561? this is old and obsolete. mods please close this thread
[Atrix 4G Android Development] schwann:
What. An. Idiot.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Jnewell05:
Yep it wil brick. Do not use SBFs anymore.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PAulyhoffman:
I have the same issue, but i also have no motoblur account set up after installing adeo.2 and restoring with tibu
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Sorry for being off topic, but mine does the same thing also...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milesjohnson:
Didn't work:( looks like I'm gonna be getting this stupid pop up hourly
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
I don't know about you guys... but my phone was able to be rooted using aRoot.

EDIT: I stand corrected... it appears that it's rooted, but it's not. :(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mustang302LX:
You got root on the new update? Not calling you a liar but screenshots?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] franciscojavierleon:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=913709

new superoneclick. someone with the update please try it!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
But now my bigger question is I know you can just root 1.2.6 and still receive the update... now after the update do you keep root or do you lose it? Trying to save myself a step of having to SBF back to 1.2.6 and trying it myself, though I will tomorrow after work if no one else has done it yet.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mustang302LX:
I don't see how superoneclick for another phone would work for the Atrix. But what do I know lol.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
No I edited my previous post, it appeared as if it worked... but no dice. So... yes I was a LIAR. LMFAO!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mustang302LX:
ahhh you had me all excited for a minute lol.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] professor_chaos:
Guys, if the devs discover a new exploit they should keep it to themselves so that Moto can't patch it before the official release!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] JD914:
Even though I lost my root through this update, I still have the ability to side load apps :)

I'm sure there will be a root in the near future, I'd rather have an improved device rather than a buggy rooted one.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] xdaLurker:
You need to freeze the updater service.

Com.motorola.blur.updater
[Atrix 4G Android Development] pookeyster:
I was scared that side loading was going to be affected as well and was relieved to see it wasn't
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mustang302LX:
Not being negative but what about the root made your device buggy? I'm having the exact opposite experience. My phone isn't buggy at all.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
How are you able to still sideload apps? I can live without root, but need to be able to sideload apps. Also, after updating, has anyone tried to see if we can SBF back out of this update?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milesjohnson:
I can't find that in TiBU will this not work if I already downloaded it but didn't install
[Atrix 4G Android Development] MisterKrispy:
SuperOneClick has always been labeled as a Captivate root, but works for a variety of phones.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] KryptosXLayer2:
For those wondering how to stop update notification every hour, all you have to do is download the update, reboot into recovery (does this automatically), press the four corners of the screen on the exclamation point recovery screen, and select REBOOT instead of "Apply sdcard:update.zip"

pretty simple......
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mustang302LX:
Ahhh didn't know that. Thanks!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milesjohnson:
How exactly would i press reboot, what does it mean by press center
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milesjohnson:
Did what you said and I'm still getting the message. I downloaded but didn't install, and pressed reboot instead of apply sdcard:update.zip and I got the message again an hour later
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mustang302LX:
Did anyone try this superoneclick version after installing the OTA beta?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] richhed:
I'm about to install the BETA, I will take the plunge and try the new super one click and report back
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mustang302LX:
Nice. I'll be anxiously refreshing haha. I'm also curious if GingerBlur will work on it as well.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] franciscojavierleon:
someone tested it and it doesn't work...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Mustang302LX:
figures. and lame.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] link12245:
Just tested three AIO rooters, none work. I have SU installed on my phone, but no permissions. Tis lame. Luckily I was able to go from Adeo to stock, then root Titanium Backup, side load what I wanted, and update first.

I STILL HAVE SIDE LOAD APPS!!!!

Tested from Amazon market, and an .apk i had on my sd card.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milesjohnson:
Anybody else having the pop up problem?:(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] MisterKrispy:
I want to know if anyone has tried flashing back to an older SBF. with some of the Droid X updates if you flashed back to an older SBF, it would brick.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rjayflo:
Im bout to flash sbf....my wifi connection is worse after this update
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
Updated fully to 1.5.7 earlier today. I'm back on 1.5.2, fully rooted, running my GladiAtrix ROM. Everything is functioning perfectly.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Khalsa4G:
Hi All, new to the forums and Android & Atrix. So far its been amazing minus the muffled sound occasionally.

Quick question, what can i "Freeze" to stop that my phone doesn't auto update?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
You just choose to not participate in the beta. And updates aren't mandatory, when an update is done it downloads and asks if you want to download such. Either way wrong thread/forum for this.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cafe.:
Yeah seriously, at least until the HSUPA problem is solved.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] itsonlym3:
is it really and if so in what way? does it just display correctly or do you actually get the appropriate speed(s) now?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] KryptosXLayer2:
the quote was "UNTIL the HSUPA problem is solved," not "SINCE the HSUPA problem is solved!" This update does NOT solve the problem........
[Atrix 4G Android Development] itsonlym3:
my bad, apologies. still a bit early for me to be reading i think. :/
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
While we are still waiting for this to get rooted and instead of using the SBF to take a couple step backs to get root... is there any way to sideload apps on this update... i.e. using ADB, or any other method?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
ADB INSTALL works fine ihav used it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] richhed:
Update failed for me anyway... Did a CRC check on a file, hash didn't match (probably cause it's deodexed). So I still have root.