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[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] batman_112:
I agree with you. The devs team here have done an outstanding job in making our phones that much more fun to use. But, they are not the reason why SE decided to release 2.3 for X10. In my humble opinion, customer complaints and bad publicity are the main reasons why the did. If SE plans to be a major Android OEM, they need to increase their fan base and not alienate them. And that is one of the reasons why they released 2.3.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mister J:
Wow I'm really happy about this but ill wait for the bootloader first
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] truefat:
S.E. had worked on 2.2 and pretty much had it ready to release in august but they still scrapped it. What caused them to officially announce a 2.3 update could still be related to present curcumstances. Had they already been fully commited to release 2.3 since january they would have said something in january. I personally don't think the bootloader bypass is what motivated them though. I think that the tsunami in japan may of had an influence in the final decision as the supply of the newer line may be affected.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laill:
For me,I am concerning the 3d performane in this update.

It can be obviously seen that SE decrease the 3d performance of our X10 in each update in order to force us to buy new phones.(Asphalt5 in .504 is better than .24 ,.24 is better than .435

So,if the 3d performance in this update is suck,I perfer 2.1 with custom rom.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbvg:
Does anyone understand what this implies :

"Support for bi-directional languages will be reduced compared to the latest version of the 2.1 version of the XperiaTM X10." ?

Does this concern only voice commands/text-to-speech languages or all of the UI language?

Let's say... for example, french language... :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saint23liquori:
everybody seem happy!, what a great news for us right now...Gingerbread here we come!!! :p

thanks to all developers, thanks to SE.

Gott segne sie!! :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
Totally agree!!!! +100
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] will.m:
Look who's back.

That is an interesting revelation considering this post:

Which is even more hiliarious because SE told us tough luck on several occasions since then.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unknown13x:
I'm not going to argue, since the internals didn't get the note until about a week ago. The rest of the argument is on SE's blog page. I think their QA is sufficient to answer the questions.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtbk9999:
Xperia Play started selling in Taiwan yesterday, together with Arc,

both cost roughly $640 off-contract
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iead1:
*****ing and moaning does not work.

Complaining with a sane argument does. If a bunch of whiners yells GIEV US TEH FROYOZ, would you listen to them? What about someone who says "SE, your users would appreciate an update to a newer version of Android"? I'd listen to that, because they are rational.

Now please, stop the hating. This has nothing to do with the devs on XDA. The update was going to come, regardless. Just be happy, thank them, and continue to use the custom ROMs you love so much if you don't need SE's. It's not like they'll force you to update.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] i_rakov:
lol. did they hire zdzihu?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redee2go:
Let's just be positive about this...

Yeah, oh yeah SE is rolling this out... let us just wait patiently...:D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
The drivers are locked behind the bootloader, not root lock. This is why we don't have a fully working camera yet. If it was that easy, don't you think it would have been done.

EDIT: My bad. I took it as you meant using the SE 2.1 drivers on the ASOP 2.3 rom.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] truefat:
As I understand it, the problem is that the devs don't have the source code to modify the 2.1 drivers to work with 2.3. It's not because of the bootloader. So it may be possible to use the newer cam drivers with freex10 gingerbread.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
Thanks for the surprise appearance. The few of us truly grateful members appreciate this gesture by SE, and your input when it's given. I can honestly say that I don't know of any other phone that has gotten the level of support we have gotten with multiple little updates, the addition of dual touch and now gingerbread. Especially when we all bought the X10 knowing that multitouch was not present and SE only said updateable to 2.1.

Please let SE devs know that those rejects do not represent xda as a whole, and it wouldn't matter what you or anyone did. They'd complain about heaven. Those of us with half a brain know that this wasn't conjured up over the weekend because of the dev projects here. It was due to customer response, and thank SE for listening.

In my opinion, SE shouldn't lose any sleep over losing those guys future business. Let them go bash the other manufacturers for a while, while they start to realize no one is perfect. At least SE was "man" enough to admit when they were wrong. That's a lot more than I can say for many of the whiney bit@#es. :P

***ALSO***

Unknown13x, what's up with the surprise announcement you promised for us AT&T users? Can you confirm or deny if they are testing 2.3 for us? I don't see why you should not be able to answer this question directly considering they have stopped selling the X10.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unclecat:
this is really a great news,I love SE now~I just hope it will not be cancelled~:D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bleached45:
This is really cool news, I didn't expect this at all.

I didn't think it would be difficult to do, but I didn't expect Sony to actually do it.

I'm glad to hear this, whatever their reasons may be (IMO most likely to increase public opinion).

Though what I'm really excited for is what our devs will be able to do with this update, fully working AOSP releases.

Of course with the new bootloader news, they may not need this at all.

Either way, this is good news, I give Sony credit for doing it, but I'm mostly excited for what doors it may open up to our devs.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unknown13x:
The promise was for something else, but AT&T chopped it. It's pointless to mention it now that 2.3 is on the way. However, please note that only the generics are getting it. So if you have an AT&T branded FW, I recommend you guys to flash it to a generic before getting the update.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haifeng:
SO COOL

So cool news
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
HAHAHAHAHA!! well he has been MIA.

and all of a sudden........2.3
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thatchie:
+1 can't wait to see this!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iggy:
SE & all this is great news, I was quite happy with FreeX10 2.2.1 my X10 flies right now but an official upgrade to gingerbread, that makes me damn happy and of course looking forward the the excellent mods that will be created by XDA's finest.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cruzin_cruzing:
This is great news considering that popular apps and game developers out there may start making their apps and games compatible specifically for the Xperia X10, such as Netflix, and Gameloft HD games.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rulasram:
Good for all of you that hold on the X10, bad luck for me recently sell my X10 in behalf of a droid 2 global, yes no the same camera no the same screen, but querty and "globavility" is a extra, i will going to miss it now more when i know it can load 2.3, and im going to be stuck in 2.2 until motorola or verizon decide if they do to upgrade to 2.3 o even 2.4.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LJE:
who are you kidding? you need to wipe that brown stain off your nose.

"Especially when we all bought the X10 knowing that multitouch was not present " I was told multitouch wasnt possible.

If you're that worried, here... OK SE... I forgive you for all the lies.

This new update to GB will make my X10 on par with the FW im using now. (hopefully)

IMHO some people will say SE is the greatest company now.

Some people are happy either way. (phones are very customizeable with or without the offical GB update)

And some people are sick of the lies they were told.

Im happy with my phone, less happy with the company...

There are people here (obviously ties with SE) that are actually apologizing for SE abandining the x10 too early (makes me look at their new phones)

and people like you attacking the customers for wanting to pull there phone out and show it off.

You can't say yeah SE were wrong, **** you and all the rest for noticing.

You either realize SE were wrong, or believe the customers were wrong.

Im happy for what ever reason SE decided to release GB, but untill a few days ago I was told there is no way you're getting anything more then 2.1. Another lie? You said they knew since jan right?

Bottom line, hopefully SE sell lots of phones and keep their customers happy
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gaolinde:
technically end of q2/early q3 means end of june/july. but in SE style it means 31st august.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaosdroid:
this update is a ****ing trap like 2.1 with a lot of restriction root boot ect...plan is to get client in the sight and see what you do on your phone

so remember money is the first things they thinking.

so if you want 2.3 CM is the best way and wait for fix camera ect...

freex10.cyantheme.58bb
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pathaniya:
Quite true! :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djadrianc:
I'll believe it when I see it
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imugur:
This is true but do they have enough X10 in the stock. Now the price of X10 dropped down anyway so I am not sure what will be their business case.

Mugur

http://mugur-ionescu.ro/tag/xperia
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Electron2k:
Excellent news but that will be upgrade time for most people I assume.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kova05:
....agree!!! :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abo999:
Hooray! Then the nice dev can work on a lovely rom with the nice SE camera included :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abo999:
Nah, I got another year on my personal contract. But, I'm getting a Pre3 next month from work so I guess I'll be playing with that for a while
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rstopher:
:D:D:D sweeeeet!! :D:D:D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hanzo.Hasashi:
suddenly WE ALL LOVE SE!!! :love: :love: :kiss: :kiss: :cool::confused::confused:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] franzfrontal:
...it's great!... I'm happy!!!..wow!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arcturusx:
I think this is a nice try from SE...it's nice to get Ginger after all, but it's nothing more than PR.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rtblittlebrown:
Great leave it up to att. To screw over a good phone
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sinkster:
Personally, I have more trust in the XDA development than in SE, & would continue using their roms over official ones. But I do think this is a knee-jerk reaction from SE to the constant comments/feedback from x10 owners.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] murphy46:
Maybe the best new is the xda dev can enchace a full working 2.3.3 rom and they can even upgrade to 2.4 because still being gingerbread. I buy the x10 a week before they anounce no more updates and that really piss me off. But now i love my xperia. Maybe not the powerful android phone but is the prettiest. Thank-you SE i will never forget,
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shoby:
Call me a cynic but I'll be extremely surprised if the SE release of 2.3.3 outperforms Wolfbreak's CM firmware.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mute0:
It's cool and all that they decided to do it, but I think the devs here have done an awesome job on the custom roms.

Don't know if I would go back to SE's official as I'm happy on Wolfbreaks CM.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeViL_DiCe:
This has got me thinking... It´s quite curious that SE announced this new update just days after the dev's were able to bypass the bootloader.

If i were you i´d be careful when updating to SE's Gingerbread, because i bet that it will take us several steps back, concerning the cracking of the bootloader.

It´s not that i´m ungrateful to SE for the update, but i can´t stop thinking that this must be a way to kill all the dev's efforts. This can only mean that they must be very close to cracking the bootloader, since SE was so quick to announcing this...

Am i the only thinking this way?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] batman_112:
No, you are not the only one thinking this. But, it is ridiculous to think that the update is related to the boot-loader (by the way it is not cracked yet, not even close to it).
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LJE:
Not at all....
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mister J:
Okay I'm pretty sure this 2.3.3 update was planned a while ago. If you ever worked at a company you realize that you can't just make this huge decision out of nowhere. It takes time to get approved and whatnot so I'm pretty sure this decision was made a little while ago with no regards to the devs here @ xda but instead to fix their image since they looked pretty bad having this very advanced phone and holding it back.

Just my two cents
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeViL_DiCe:
Although i get your point, i can´t agree the part about the bootloader. Although it hasn´t been cracked, it has been bypassed which is a huge step forward. I can only think that the dev's have finally found the correct path. Of course, knowing how Sony works (and don´t tell me that GeoHot is a great dev, bla, bla... he just has friends with huge pockets that got the key to the PS3...) their products are more protected then a prison.

Nevertheless, i don´t believe in coincidences and i don´t belive SE has agreed to update the X10 because of the complaints. There have been thousands of complaints for a long time now, and i can´t believe they only read them a month ago.

Either way it´s great to finally have an update, so i´m going to stop complaining. :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simplytheone:
;)

Who is faster... the xda devs or Sony Ericsson with 2.3.3?! ;)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pngface:
I only hope they remove the fps cap. Anyone who has played glow hockey will know how bad the lag is to control the paddle - which IS because of the cap
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeViL_DiCe:
Let´s take bets! (just kidding...)

I guess the Dev's will make significant progress until the end of Q2. Of course i may dream, and by then the bootloader will be cracked (falls from the cloud...).

So if your talking about a fully working rom, with no issues i may bet SE, but if you´re talking about a similar update with minimal bugs, then my bet goes to the dev's.

They gave us much more than SE, and i won´t start loving SE just because of this update. I already thank them enough with the huge load of money i spent of this wonderful phone.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tjotte:
What if this was their plan all along xP to release such news only a week before their next gen phones starts to roll out, they will get alot of mouth to mouth advertising now saying SE is a great company that listen to their costumers. As stated before i'm not a hater of any kind and i knew (atleast i thought i did) all along what i was in for with the X10 and 90% of my phones has been SE.

This was just a fun idea that struck me, but it might also be true :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simplytheone:
i bet for the devs ;)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fantus1:
Honestly this most likely has nothing to do with the XDA devs and alot to do with the tsunami, many japanese companies have had to shut down, and i know some of those make parts for SE.

They are probably extending the life of the x10 because even if they wanted to they cant keep manufacturing their new lineup of phones.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dark_hood:
just great news :) THX
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ovalteenies:
Deep down I hoped SE would pull something like this.. but didn't think it would actually happen!

SO HAPPY
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iead1:
Are people really so clueless?

Why? The X10 at that point would be over a year and a half old at that point. No one is going to make X10 specific apps at that point.

Not to mention Netflix requires a certain DRM chip in the phone, which seeing as the X10 is already a year old today, it probably doesn't have.

It's absolutely bonkers to suggest this. Yes, SE is having trouble making phones. My Arc is on backorder, there's 80 other people on the list at the store. But, to decide to start working on and announce an update because of the earthquake is just strange. It's been two weeks, and this is SE we're talking about. It's simply not possible for them to move so fast.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] felixpaul:
I'm very happy on seeing this post...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Akeeq:
Okay, now thats some good news. But I am concerned. It says the update will put the standard Android camera UI losing the smile detection and face recognition bit?:confused: :/
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LJE:
*... deleted
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dave2:
Tbh, I won't mind having standard Android camera UI, as face recognition is removed in my current Rom. And smile detection is just a pointless camera feature to me.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vin0x1:
Great news but will believe only when they actually relieved it
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
Don't worry, it will be released for certain. Maybe not for your brand or region, so make sure you flash the generic global firmware before the update.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soza971:
That's a good news from SE
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flo95:
Hopefully the camera quality will be the same or even better as now.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] violentgoomba:
I wish SE didn't have to agravate us so much. But thank you, SE.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
True, they really didn't have to tell us no further OS upgrades so soon after releasing 2.1. They could have waited 6 months if they wanted. Well, that's what they get for being too honest.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Terdroblade:
I think the only reason why they are upgrading is so they can hotfix the bootloader bypass our devs here found.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mahalio:
I read this bit of news and I ... Jizzed in my pants!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zeusifer:
I will believe it when it's on my phone!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deniz.S:
wish they would post these statements closer to the time of release. The wait is agonizing.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zeusifer:
I'm guessing 6 months:(
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paolo599:
SE say they wont make anymore mistakes and there updates will be on time... good way to keep your promise
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drunken_m:
Better late, than never? I'm still betting on Bin4ry, zdzihu and jerpelea for bypassing the bootloader...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fou_X:
'm waiting for SE rolling back.....
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] truefat:
Are people really so clueless?

S.E. may of had gingerbread on the table for months but the final decision could have been made in a heartbeat. To think that it's impossible for one of the worst disasters in history to have any impact in that decision is "absolutely bonkers".
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quadgem:
I bet that XDA custom roms will work better than SE craperbread :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pngface:
Are there a bunch of monkeys running SE? What sort of decision making process do they employ? LOL

1. First, they announce Android 2.1 for the X10 to come in Q4 2010, with DLNA and further improvements for UXP. Then, due to the huge public outburst, they say it is coming late Q3 instead. Maintain that due to hardware limitations, dual touch is impossible.

2. Then, come late Q3, they announce that it has been delayed by a month, back to Q4. And they announce this 2-3 days before their self imposed deadline expires. To help quell some of the frustration, they announce (after seeing some videos from China) that their brilliant engineers have found a way to implement multi touch after all.

3. Next - in Jan 2011, with the launch of their 2011 Xperia lineup, they announce that their 2010 Xperias will remain on Android 2.1, again, to a huge public outcry.

4. Release mediascape, dual touch update. Leave out DLNA. This didn't matter to many, but I for one was waiting for it since May 2010.

5. Announce Android 2.3.3 for the X10 in March 2011 to come in early Q3 2011

Do they flip a coin to make decisions up there? How does it work?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
@pngface

Remember this is their first go at this. They can't control google releasing non compatible updates either. I would rather work with a company that's willing to admit their mistakes and fix them than some know it all corporation that doesn't care about their customers like AT&T for example.

SE may be monkeys, but they are monkeys that can learn from their mistakes. SE may not have been perfect on the X10, but their follow up actions show they are taking drastic measures to improve in the future. We will all benefit in the future from the mistakes of today. ;)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pngface:
I'm all in support of them releasing Gingerbread, ofcourse, since I have about 26 months left in my contract :p

But this isn't their first go at smartphones though. X1, X2 etc

I'm not sure how much Google is at fault here, but SE is definitely better than some other companies out there, esp when it comes to design. Hopefully they have learnt and fixed the problems in their internal product development pipeline to churn out speedy updates
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mister J:
Well, we were the guinea pigs since this is their first android phone I believe.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alankstiyo:
i'm kinda sure that SE thought that no1 will care about not having updates for our phones or that the customer worths nothing. at least as you said they learned from their own mistakes the sad part is that we were like guinea pigs with a company that has way too many years in the market
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Hahahahaha Thats funny
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
Why though not just not say anything about updates, if, as some people have been maintaining, this has been in the works for some time now?

Why try to make people angry by saying "Oh no updates past 2.1".

I feel like SE have been intentionally trying to make us upset, if that is the case
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeViL_DiCe:
There has been 3 theories regarding this late announcement from SE.

1. The dev's are close to cracking the bootloader, so they want to tight the security by releasing this update.

2. They have heard their customers complaints, therefore updating to the latest android version.

3. Due to the massive earthquake, there were several factories closed, so this means less Arcs and Plays, so they have to update the image of their current flagship (X10) to absorb their losses.

I'm betting on the third, but my head tends to choose number 1. I don't know why but number 2 never crosses my mind... =)