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[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Byrana:
Also very interesting timing I must say. The moment xda-devs found a way to finally bypass all that sony crap they finally announce something "new" which is already known to us.

What about x10 will have no benefits from froyo or whatever. Also did anyone notice the screenshot ... we already have arclauncher and so on...so don't be hyped too much.

I prefer a real free X10 :)

Hopefully the people of this community won't lay back thinking ok i will leave it to sony now. J,Z,Wolfbreak,Bin4ry and all other devs have put so much effort into their projects, keep on supporting them. In long terms they will do more than sony probably has ever done.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunalgahlot:
well,in any case update will delete all data,and for sure the ROM will be available on XDA ,so it would be better if we can flash the roms with adb!!!!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiefy009:
I will wait a resist the urge to update as soon as possible as i imagine when Z or J get their hands on the package they will be able to provide a zip to install a pre rooted version through xrecovery

Could this update though lock down the bootloader a little more ?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxorpio:
it seems that they are getting the ideas from the great work of our xda developers and planning to implement them...it doesnt make me happy.

lol
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LJE:
can you blame people for talking this news with a pinch of salt?

The only way I got what I wanted is with open sourse...

Only reason I bought an android phone.

instead of se.. make believe...

it should be... SE... make this ************ *middle finger*
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tinny9:
I'm loving this.

This is good thing that SE had taken this decision.

My faith is certainly restored. Earlier I was thinking of switching to HTC.

Thanks SE.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pratikjac:
Fantastically fantastic news.... i am so excited. My phone is eagerly waiting to taste Gingerbread.... :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiefy009:
this has appeared in the sony development web site

3.0.A.2.181_182.tar.bz2
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gregbradley:
I just had to check to see if its April 1st!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImS0Raw:
They are making GB because bootloader is being bypassed... SE is reading XDA you know... Everything they read here are some thing they will use. Hopefully x10 will be uncapped!!!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -- X10B --:
im assuming the kernel will be the same,

THIS UPGRADE IS STUPID NOT EVEN CLOSE TO A REAL SE PHONE...

PLEASE REALIZE THIS..

THEY WILL REPLACE THE S.E STOCK CAMERA AND CHANGE IT TO A ANDROID CAMERA.. ( i am pretty sure s.e stock cam is the best there is )

I WANT MY XPERIA X10 RUNNING 2.3 NOT 2.3 RUNNING ON MY XPERIA x10..

this is update was givin us to j a long time ago..

what a thieves... tsk tsk tsk.. they will take away what we bought about this phone....

upgrade sucks better to wait at the bootloader bypass.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
Then you should have done better research before you bought this phone. There are phones for that.

We just got 2.1 in November. Four months later they say updating to 2.3 is fair. I think they knew this all along. How else can they release a bunch of new phones and expect sales?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacko5:
Well perfect timing by me.

I just bought my frist Sony x10 off Ebay yesterday.

Brand new ( insurance replacement ) on 02 network.

Got it for £137 so a bargain even more now :D:

Now i just need to figure out how to put the c7 2.3 custom rom on it ( detailed link apreciated :) ).

I have always had HTC phones untill now , but i have rooted and put custom rom on my wifes Orange San Francisco which is an android phone.

Sorry for rattling on, this news is great :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Khimera:
Will not upgrade unless proven otherwise !!

hmmm, on second thought, move to 2.3.3 and what? possibly lose the root exploit, possibly lose the kexec bypass that our developers are working on and move back to stoneage? :D i dont think i will upgrade it unless someone confirms it can be rooted and bootloader is continued to be bypassed ( or cracked as the case may be by then :D)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunalgahlot:
Don't talk like sexually unsatisfied desperate woman..android cam is much more simpler and faster and there are topics which have proved that stock cam application take better pictures than SE app

also it is not on the same kernel,we will have wifi tethering

also we HD Cam which we don;t have as of now...and we will be able to use goggles and bar code scanner...!!

don't abuse just for the sake of it..

SE has worked hard too to get us the 2.3.3 ,if you can't say something good..better say nothing!!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImS0Raw:
How to let you x10 get an orgasm.

Put your x10 in front of the screen and show it this website.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lord_Baal:
I just hope that with those news the Devs don't stop all that work with the Bootloader.

I would rather use the Cracked Bootloader than SE Update.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kultus:
Absolutely useless thread like many others concerning this news maybe you had the orgasm sickooo :D

Admin please LOCK IT
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunalgahlot:
how much time did it took us to root 2.1

:cool:

for the first few weeks we all were with unrooted 2.1 and also after the update on 2.1.xx we lost our root..

root is nothing now..it will be available even before SE releases 2.3.3
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
And most of the custom ROM's are just stuff people are to lazy to do themselves anyway. Root, add/remove some apps, add a theme, and cyanogen mods.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tnleeuw:
Might not be rootable for a while to come though

The rage-against-the-cage method which we've been using to root our Android 2.1 phones no longer works on Gingerbread 2.3.3 however, so we might loose the ability to root our phones for a while to come.

That is very unfortunate, and means that restoring our Titanium-made backups won't be possible after the upgrade!

Which backup-restore utility will work without root?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Khimera:
hmmm, care to explain? Do you know how long it took to get root access on 1.6? unless an exploit is found, u wont get a root. Developers were good, u got a root. As i said, its easy to talk, difficult to make things work. The bootloader has been the same ever since X10 was out right? why hasnt that been cracked?

Thats why i am saying its too precious to lose what we have got. i will just wait and see when 2.3.3 is released to see if it offers anything. otherwise may just go with custom roms of J & Z
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjsabaki:
HMMMMMM....DID I READ THIS RIGHT...." DRM keys for protected content on your phone will be lost in the upgrade process."...............THIS COULD BE REALLY REALLY INTERESTING!!! Wait and see!!!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreatBigDog:
My OPINION is that they not upgrading because of bootloader bypass. SE is a corporation and as such are only concerned about one thing..... The bottom line. They are upgrading the X10 to 2.3 because of one thing and one thing only....It makes fiscal sense to do so.

Just remember that SE doesn't have a 2.2 ROM and the current exploits that allowed the DroidDream virus laden apps to gain control of some uses devices have been patched in the Android 2.2.1 and above source code. (indecently these are the same exploits that allow the current rooting methods for the X10 and other devices)

By offering this upgrade SE is taking steps to insulate itself from potential future lawsuits by handset owners. They will update all handsets that use the generic ROM's and offer to upgrade the branded carrier ROM's (For a fee of course). This way they have done due diligence in protecting their customers from a security hole in their product that was and is perfectly capable of running the software that has been patched. You can bet, if Google patched earlier versions of the source code, we would be getting a security update instead.

Again, my opinion only and I could be completely off base.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elvolcanoik:
great news ... SE +1
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunalgahlot:
my backup

it saves all apps+data +contacts,call logs works just fine!!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] batman_112:
WOOOHOOOO

I always had faith in SE. :D

A happy Ericsson and Sony Ericsson consumer since 1997! ;)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunalgahlot:
wait and watch!!!

i am sure rooting won't be that of an issue..

even without root i would prefer 2.3.3
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
Hello, the Arc will have been out for months, so I am sure the root issues will have been solved.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LJE:
OK agentSE... tell me one thing.

How can they sell new products when the old products have the same software?

We only got 2.3.3 because of one reason... Its not because SE have or best interests at heart right?

It's not "fair" its defeted.

SE lose and they need to wake up....

If they want to destroy the competition (can be done easily with their hardware) start small... make the "flagship" a flagship
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DABenji:
FFS Some people wont be happy unless they have someone/thing to grump about, I was all set to upgrade to one of the custom roms today but with this news I am going to wait, surely if the devs on here can bypass the bootloader on 2.1 surely getting round 2.3 wont be too much of a hastle, I personally would like to have a rom thats come from SE then rooted rather than installing a rom thats used bits of other roms and has only partial functionality, here we will get 2.3.3 with a fully working cam, a rom thats stable, and all the devs will need to concetrate on is rooting.

Also we already know what SE's time keeping is like so just prepare yourselves for it instead of expecting it when they first say. Im sure some people here would rage against a pot plant if they thought the pot plant was part of "The System".

Nice one SE, looking forward to an even better X10 experience than the already excellent one I have now.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ooidort:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10885567&postcount=17

Oh SE... I don't think I've ever been this attached emotionally to a phone. This is crazy! :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radekg7:
No matter, I'm glad that we will have gingerbread official on x10:p
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] realunited123:
This helps.Doesn't it ?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diament:
Better dont say it loud 'cose they change their mind ;)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] batman_112:
I agree with your take. I think we will have root 4-6 weeks after the update is released! :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
That's why I said they waited to release this info and even longer to update, so they could generate interest/sales in their new devices. Let's get another thing clear, most people get new phones at the end/beginning of a two year contract, so it really has nothing to do immediate sales.

So unless they are the market leader, you won't be happy with SE? Remember this is their first Android. Other companies have a year or two on SE.

You clearly are an irrational customer who SE would gladly see you go buy a competitor's device, so you can take your whining and flaming somewhere else.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcraeally44:
But, does it work with 2.3.3?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
It has to. Google made gingerbread, not SE. It's vanilla Android 2.3. Do you hear about other phones currently being updated not supporting user apps?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DABenji:
@AgentJBM

Who cares why they are upgrading us to GB, just be thankful that they are, to be honest if 2.3 is good on the X10 surely the Arc is going to be even better also that will go higher than 2.3 so we get 2.3 on our x10s then when contracts end we will still be happy with se, so get the arc and will get further android updates when they come out.

My contract ends next year so I will be looking to see how the Arc stacks up against the Samsung Galaxy S2 and whatever HTC has out at the time, but for now I will be happy with 2.3 on my X10
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ultimategeppie:
LOL. Almost can't keep up with all the posts.

Most of us here like to play around with ROM and stuff, willing to pay the price of loosing camera HD etc. (Hell, i even bricked mine today with data2SD.

Now that SE announces an official GB, I would expect that most of us will keep using custom ROM until the official SE 2.3.3 is hacked in some way.

The official GB ROM isn't much fun for us until devs can open it. And when it's open... it's not much more than what we have already.

SE would have made me more happy with HD drivers and bootloader. The rest is already there.

But hey! SE isn't abandoning there flagship. I'm glad that they admit you can do more with the X10 than 2.1...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LJE:
they waited untill they released the info that x10 will get GB because they arnt worried about immediate sales?

Next you'll be telling me that the arc isn't compatible with multitouch
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rlyeh:
Thanks to our XDA Developers (J&Z) this upgrade is going to happen...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cruzin_cruzing:
What does this mean? Different DRM or is it removed completely?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blueowl0708:
I think it's pretty clear that they've announced this due to the Bootloader bypass that's currently being worked on. They are trying to take the wind out of our devs sails...

It will be interesting to see how the official 2.3.3 compares to the FreeX10 version :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PartyVirginX10:
oh my gadlet people...

Update has not been released and looking at SE, will it even be released?

and youre here worrying how will you transfer youre apps to 2.3 1oneone!!?!?!?!?!?!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunalgahlot:
I don't think so...Bootloader bypass came just a week back,SE might be working on this since a couple of months!!!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lornova:
I don't understand why they're dumping Moxier... :confused:

I rely on Moxier, the native client is not good at all and is rejected by my company's Exchange policies, so I will not able to upgrade :mad: :(
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Meraklis56:
they wont..who would work for 1 year and quit just because one of their target,wiped.

open bootloader is much more important than a 2.3.3 update ;)

60fps cap,16m colors,better drivers:multi-touch...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kimi1994:
Actually it's a good news. better than never
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tryantar:
Well just download and install.

Im wondering tho, with the 2.3.3 would it help to get the libs fland solve the problems for the J and Z rom?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwer23:
+1 there's much more to get than just GB. But we won't get real multi-touch, sorry. this is really impossible due to hardware. DT is the most we can get.

Sent from my rooted X10i using CM7 v011
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtbk9999:
This is so 2010:

Motorola devices (global ver.) are still stuck on 2.1 or 2.2, 2.3 updates not even planned. and HTC Desire won't get 2.3 update till April either.

really SE is not doing too bad.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flo95:
Totally useless.

If you want to get more posts, help people with problems and don't post such sh**
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwer23:
it can also be a problem that arc is released and probably rooted a few months earlier. they can use the time to patch the exploit that was used on arc :(

Sent from my rooted X10i using CM7 v011
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragoonxy:
Same here. I just cant believe that they would actually make another update and

GB at that! :eek: I hope this time wont be any "unforeseen delays". SE is especially

known for them, just look how long it took them to release 2.1 upgrade.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hongy19:
Really a very good news.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
No, you said that. I said that is probably because they ARE, but my second point was directed at your comments about SE's failure as a company. SE knows you aren't going to buy a new phone until your contract is up, unless you've got a rich mommy or daddy, so they ultimately just want you happy when that contract day comes.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] almosterick:
This is a good new for me because i have a 18 months contact plan! Joooo
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] monta990:
good sony

Good sony, you are a bad boy jajaja
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lion3494:
Is this update coming with 16 million colors and the cap removal on fps
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
Come on. They gave us multi touch and 2.3 after listening to their customers. If that's the way they operated we would have had major root issues with EVERY update.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] totalundone:
This is great news! It would be great seeing this around July 1 (I believe that's q2/q3 based on their previous way of calculating their quarters).

It definitely changes my outlook on purchasing a future SE phone, seeing as how their showing support for their older hardware.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] augie7107:
One word, unbelievable.

I would have never thought this would happen.

Another SE customer has become loyal again.

What a pleasant surprise.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jmercy09:
LMAO!!! Yall happy now?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pngface:
If you ask me they tried out J's 2.3 ROM and realized it was way better than theirs.. for all you know they can't unlock their bootloader either :p So they are hoping Bin4ry and the other devs can bypass it before their early Q3 deadline.... and they can release their 2.3.3 'custom rom' :p
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lofwyr:
There is no info point on this direction... but since this upgrade may be based on Arc's kernel, it's not a hopeless possibility.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jmercy09:
Thats what I'm more worried about, but this is still good news :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h.boushi1987:
Thank god!!!! Finally se dumps listened to us now i won't change my x10 for any reason
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tcolec540:
The only reason I flashed froyo was to get flash. I would be happy with this phone till my upgrade on Gb.

The only reason I would root Gb would be to get rid of any bloat ware sony decides to include.

Don't mistake being happy with my phone till upgrade with considering another Se device. This is my first and last.

Edit- stupid auto complete
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChilliBo:
well.. this ARE good news.. but end of 2. or 3. quartal?? damn until this there will be some newer software aviable of android -.- and we are leaving behind again with gb ^^
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elvish:
Ok a bit noob to all of this but what exactly is a trade kit? Just learning all of this so please someone enlighten me!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pngface:
Means if you got the phone on contract you likely won't get the update
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elvish:
Thank you! Does this mean say someones on Rogers network will not recieve this update?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LJE:
I didnt say anything... Im just reading between the lines,

If you are scouting for SE, I have a family of my own.. Me and my missus have x10's and I have been loyal to sony and sony ericsson....

I never said SE failed as a company, I wrote that their flagship should of had more effort put in by SE... If it wasnt for the devs here, x10 would be a failure..

If you write that 2.3.3 would of been released without the devs coming close to bypassing the bootloader. then you have no idea about selling phones.

Everyone here with common sense realises why the x10 is getting GB..

It's not to increase the arcs sales

*edit.. wait up... it's all about increasing the arcs sales
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PeteGraham:
What about the old HTC Work Mail app? That's pretty damn good and also free.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pngface:
They said 'might' not... but yeah Rogers falls in the 'might not' category. Not to worry, just flash your phone to Generic NA and you can get the update when it comes
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thorstenn:
It means its up to Rogers to decide if you get the update or not
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elvish:
OK great guess when i find out ill flash to Generic NA so i can get the update lol thanxs again slowly im becomming educated lol!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ero78:
I love my x10.... :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gzdx0615:
It would be good news if it's true.

Anyway, i dont believing anything until i see the GB ROM released by SE.:mad:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Whitecookie:
GREAT!!!

Thats a REALLY big surprise for us all isn´t it?

I think that sony ericsson saw the progress on bootloader- cracking and now they want to bring the upgrade. Great news!!!!!:eek:

EDIT:

I just read the official post from the product blog. I think one thing is very interesting for our developers

"DRM keys for protected content on your phone will be lost in the upgrade process."

Maybe it could make the bootloader-cracking easier?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jamolah:
Good stuff

I for one am glad they are doing this because I really want google voice actions.

I don't really care why SE is putting 2.3.3 out, just glad they are. Only bad thing about being a rogers customer it will take them 3 months more to release it to us. oh well.

Honestly I really don't want to use a custom ROM too many bugs a lot of issues not resolved and to be honest I don't want to deal with it.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sardelich:
And the OP hijacking my post :D damn,where is the love gone...but the news made it to the front page of XDA :)

and for the part of DRM,I am not a specialist on this,but I'm pretty sure that those keys getting lost in the update doesnt mean a squat. It is just a licence key for the DRM protected files (music) that you downloaded - purchased so it can be played. DRM - digital rights management. Keys would have to be reimported and bootloader will still be hard nut to crack. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veselinhadjiev:
I love you :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Borisdmitri:
Congrats to Sonyericsson. This is the correct move, and it's a way to show that they listen to their fans. A little late for me, i already sold my X10, but anyways a good move.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrljlamon:
end of quarter 2 and beginning of quarter 3 ? lol

well excuse me if i dont wanna wait, still considering buying a thunderbolt and going to verizon.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s4linux:
Finally some good news
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timotuithof:
Does they also delete the fps cap??
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a.monteiro:
sounds like that brazilian call center guy/gal was indeed right then! :D

but this won't change anything to me, i'll probably wait for XDA's clean and customized version anyway. It will be hilarious if the bootloader is bypassed BEFORE their release and we'll have an even better Gingerbread update.

they said at the blog that this update will come with the regular android camera app, and we'll lose all the exclusive features! what a lousy job.