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[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drock212:
What error did it say when you tried to reboot in recovery? It shouldn't be having an error if the error is that it just sits there saying rebooting what I do is just tap ok till it reboot (causing the little dots to appear then it reboot)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Ill let you know when it asks me to update again. I forgot to write it down so it'll be like another hour. Ill post when I find out
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beach_Head:
Is there any way that you can pull the update file from cache and upload it here?

Thanks!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Khalsa4G:
yeah I'm looking for this as well...

Is it updater 2.2.1? Or is that for something else? I tried doing a search on it to no avail. Is this only effecting beta testers atm or everyone eventually?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
So far I haven't gotten any popular *fingers crossed* since I rebooted from recovery. Last time I pressed check for updates just out of curiousity and it gave me the spinning circle for a minute so I figured all was good but about an hour later I ended up getting the pop up. That hasn't happened so far but well see how it goes. As far as that com.Motorola update thing I still can't find it through TiBU
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cafe.:
I'm pretty sure that after you gave Motorola the serial number of your phone, they can see what software you have loaded on the phone. Probably in some limited capacity. My guess is that they intentionally do not send the update to you if they know it will damage the phone.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YellowGTO:
Try freezing this com.motorola.blur.updater. I think that will stop the update notification
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PAulyhoffman:
I froze FOTA and then checked for updates. it searched and hung for a long time. Rebooted because when i went back it was still searching.

Freeze FOTA and you wont get the update.

if you downloaded it and son't want to install it

go to the cache folder and delete it
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Where would I find that at. I don't see it in titanium backup
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Could you give me the path to the cache
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s0dhi:
Use root explorer, it's the /cache/ folder.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesjohnson:
Hey man I finally got around to trying to mess with the cache files and I'm unsure of what to delete. There is downloadfile.apk. downloadfile-1.apk downloadfile.htm, lost+found, and then recovery. Which one would I delete to stop the updates?
[EVO 4G General] DoctorComrade:
I don't get why everyone is up and arms about Google not releasing the source code, yet.

Keyword: yet.

They will release it but they are going to delay it. Did everyone miss that part of the article?

Sent from my Evo powered by moar gees.
[EVO 4G General] boliviano3:
I don't get why you had to create a new thread for this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1008148

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1007387
[Atrix 4G General] justflorin:
I wish i could do a screen shot....but with 8% battery life left and already downloading all the SS programs in the market, it wont be done.

I haven't charged my phone for 1day 15hrs 39mins, and still have 8% battery life.

Using nothing more than the built-in Task manager (aka performancemanager.apk) i have been testing my phone out to maximize battery.

Display has been auto

no task killers downloaded

setcpu profiles active

launcher pro with 7 hopmescreens all full with widget5s and programs

over 200 apps downlloaded from market

background sync on

no lwp on

no battery reconditioning done to my knowledge

i will be writing a more indepth walk through on my settings, apps, and how i use setcpu profiles within the next couple hours...hope this helps others, please thank me if it did :)

*update*

Hope SOMEONE gets some good out of this :)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12448008&postcount=22
[Atrix 4G General] phobos512:
I can use my phone over two days without charging it and all I did was...nothing. I think the people who have problems with battery life are those who aren't at all familiar with how Android (and Android apps) work/s.
[Atrix 4G General] goxxy:
How long was the Display on?
[Atrix 4G General] justflorin:
just under 3 hours, just to reply to emails/texts, phone calls and a little gps/market browsing.

someone gave this a one star, nice...well i guess if no one cares about details i will just have the mods close thread...
[Atrix 4G General] dmappdev:
Why make threats. Just close the thread down if that's what you want to do.
[Atrix 4G General] JdgM3NT4L:
Sounds great! I look forward to learning to replicate your success.

I only started using Android with my Atrix. I did have a rom on sd for my Tilt2, but that was not even close to Android goodness. And phobos512, the very thought that you voiced is exactly what I am after. Any chance that you could point me toward an explanation or elaborate about how Android and Apps work.

The upcoming guide from justflorin will be like having a fish handed to me. What you speak of will teach me to fish.

Thanks to you both in advance.
[Atrix 4G General] Norcalz71:
I would definitely be interested in hearing some more about this being new to android. I'm currently averaging around ~14 hours I think from unplugged to 5% or so...
[Atrix 4G General] motorola4gatrix:
How my atrix is getting me 1day 15hrs of battery life...

I am interested in hearing more about this i a new to android. I'm currently averaging around ~13 hours I think from unplugged to 4% or so...
[Atrix 4G General] Made2Last:
I can make it a solid day usually but my display is on longer than 3 hours easily. If you leave your phone alone of course the battery isn't going to drain as fast.
[Atrix 4G General] CRAZED SOB:
I can EASILY last two and a half days if I wanted to. SETCPU is set to 760 Max, goes down to 400 some when screen is off. Battery manager is maximum profile (honestly besides email, why do you need apps to constantly sync??).

Best phone and battery I have EVER had.
[Atrix 4G General] done12many2:
Good point.
[Atrix 4G General] Greenbelt:
I think he was giving the rest of the forum members a chance to express interest.
[Atrix 4G General] plmiller0905:
Sorry wrong thread
[Atrix 4G General] Clienterror:
Drama for the win boo hoo.

Sent from my Nook Color on Honeycomb 1.2 OC
[Atrix 4G General] dmappdev:
I guess, because I'm not a child, I just don't get his rhetoric.
[Atrix 4G General] acPIZZA:
I'm getting 1d 15 hrs on average... I'd say usually about 1d 18 or 19 hrs.
[Atrix 4G General] Welshy992:
Dude, im using launcher pro too. 7 screens, almost exact same setup. No task killers. I get 30 hours, you're absolutely correct.
[Atrix 4G General] neotekz:
if hes syncing emails and social media theres no way he gets that kind of battery life. im currently on 24 hours of phone idle with 1 hour of display time and 50% left but thats with all account sync off but i do have background sync on for stuff like weather widgets. its no secret just turn off stuff that sync like emails, calendar, contacts and FB and you will get great battery life.

oh btw i know how to enable HSUPA and if you guys give me 100 thanks i will post it...
[Atrix 4G General] done12many2:
Okay. I just said thanks 100 times. Give it up!
[Atrix 4G General] rbryant4:
ugh

dont see how this is possible imo.

i only use sync on wifi seeing as how i got the cheapest data plan known to man.

hardly text ever. just answer 10-20 phone calls a day. Play a few apps around 30-40min. a day the rest of the time its locked unless i check the time.

screen is on auto 5 screens on home screen with around 3 widgets on each and my battery last @ 14hours. at best
[Atrix 4G General] neotekz:
when your phone is syncing over wifi you are still using battery...turn that off completely and you battery life will double. also depends how often your widgets are set to sync data, some are really bad and constantly sync like weather bug.
[Atrix 4G General] justflorin:
First of all...gotta love the trolls :)

Secondly, I only expressed interest in closing thread due to seeing a friggin 1 star rating on the thread count, lol...someone actually went out of their way to post a 1 star rating.

Lets remember, asshats, this is the GENERAL section for a reason. Some of us ARE getting good battery, some arent (have you read complaints or do you just like to be an a$$ to everyone...)

Alright, that aside...here is MY setup, if yours is different...why not post instead of flame?

-What I was referring to in my OP is not using a task killer, like rechilds ATK or the like.

-Background sync is indeed on, thanks to whoever said its impossible or unrealistic...

-I have 2 gmail accounts syncing (personal for cal/email/contacts and family one only email)

-300+ apps (according to tibu) including market downloads and already installed stuff, use about 30 of them constantly, the rest are for customers incase they themselves use them i dont have to sit there and download for them

-Auto-display has always been the case...no sense IMO to set to minimum and have to struggle to see stuff

-Widgets used arent anything super special: just LP+ Calendar, calculator widget, slacker, pandora, beautiful widget, gtasks, power control, android central, horoscope, circle battery widget, FML widget, today in history, and espn score center)

-background sync is on at normal settings

-i dont use live wallpapers, so sorry for no comment on this...

----Motorola's Included Task Manager----

Here is where *I* Personally have noticed my battery level improvements. Remember, I PERSONALLY would go 12-18 hours...so this is GREAT for me, YMMV.

I went through the list of items (remember my 200+...yeah, that list) and choose every single one to auto-end according to screen off (Not power button, but screen time off)

I then went back and unclicked all my widgets that i USE a lot, and set them to NOT aut-end when screen off.

After doing this within the built in task manager, i used setcpu to create 3 profiles, one that is priority 80 with screen off chaning min/max to 216/312. Another with priority level 75 that changes CPU to min/max to 216/608 with battery level 12% or less and another with priority level 70 that changes CPU to min/max to 216/760 with battery level 25% or less.

These settings are MINE and examples of what to do if YOU are getting crummy battery life and cant explain it.

Let the flaming come to an end, stop picking apart information messages with your nose in the air comments.

Anyway, hope this helps, let me know if you would like any additional info or clarification :)
[Atrix 4G General] Tennis11:
The while point of these new high end android phones is multitasking... no reason to end apps every time you turn it off. Then phone works harder to reload the app again, instead of just opening it.

Never live in the past but always learn from it.
[Atrix 4G General] justflorin:
While I agree, there were some apps that would aggressively turn back on without me wanting to use them anytime soon...

Like I said, people can use or not use this, for me it works :)
[Atrix 4G General] Tennis11:
I'm sure I'd get that good is batter life but I always car dock my phone and turn it off at night. I use tasker, and set CPU to 312 max with screen off. And various other things.

Never live in the past but always learn from it.
[Atrix 4G General] bimmerboii:
I get a day and a half on a full charge on my atrix. Didnt do any special setup i just used it out of the box
[Atrix 4G General] pavankvn:
Can you tell me what the "the display on" time was and the battery percentage was for the screenshot shown?

Thanks for the info. Though I agree with you on some parts, I'm not a fan of clocking down the CPU.

I'm currently at 30% battery left with 10.5 hrs since unplugged and 4 hrs 45 mins of screen use with Lpro 3 screens some widgets and 2 gmail accounts, facebook, twitter syncing in the background.
[Atrix 4G General] slimslim:
@justflorin except the setcpu thing my phone is a your atrix clone lol. I also get about 15 - 18 hours of use.
[Atrix 4G General] justflorin:
just under 3 hours
[Atrix 4G General] JdgM3NT4L:
Thanks justflorin and everyone else. These are great tips and it is nice to see a thread for this. I'm already seeing improvements and I've barely started. Greatly appreciated guys.
[Atrix 4G General] aszrael1266:
I see 18+ hours on my phone also. I'm currently at 40% showing on the battery. My battery manger shows 14h 14m since unplugged

display is 35%

phone idle 19%

call standby 17%

as for the time on for display mine is showing 2h 36m
[Atrix 4G General] roscoejackson:
Beautiful Widgets always ranks around 9% usage. Is that a little high?

I use their weather forecast widget that syncs every 4 hours and with no clock. Also the battery widget, calendar, and vibrate/silent/plane toggle widgets.

Also, the guys who get a 24 hours+ off one charge obviously aren't using the device that much. I can get down around 10 hours if i use the hell out of it (tegra games, browser, videos, limited calling). Voice calls are a real killer on my battery.
[Atrix 4G General] trimEric:
if I dont play games. It could reach 18hours more battery. As simple as that. If play games. Disaster......
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
this thread is 4 months old dude.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Still better than starting a new thread, but then again the Atrix Forums are a different animal than the rest of XDA... ;)
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
yes, but there are other battery threads that didn't end discussion in march
[Atrix 4G General] jimmerz0823:
Ya ok ive had android since android came out i no wa5 im doing my phone didnt kill my batt b4 the update now it heats up and i lose 10% a hour
[Atrix 4G General] tripleh3lix:
As much as I loved the Atrix.. the only thing that was different from my iPhone was the 4g speeds and flash (which worked hardly half the time). The battery I would get with a lot of social networking apps on is close to 2 hours and that was all. standy would be on 17-18 hours and the other hour and a half would be the screen. I had facebook, no widgets. gps off, wifi off, screen brightness around 15 percent. I had no task killers, made sure all the important apps were closed i reset the phone as I woke up every morning and had about 25 apps installed. Ok, I got fed up, Android just wasn't for me. It's cool and all and I understand why people like it, I switched back to my iPhone 4. Got it for $260 32gb refurb. Battery life now with wifi, gps, 3g, is 1 Day, 7 hours of standby, and Usage Time with the screen being on is 8 Hours and 7 minutes. Now that is amazing and I wondered why my battery life seemed so short on my Atrix. I would post an image but anytime I do it just shows a blue question mark.. lame =/
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SammyM00782:
Hey guys, I haven't seen some of these dev names in a while Toast, Damage, Ra ;-) Anyway, I'm replacing my Hero with an Evo in a few days just to get the upgrade. My question is: Since I've been working with the Hero for all this time, is the EVO pretty close? I've spent a few hours reading around and it looks pretty straight forward :-) Better than the Epic which I really don't want to mess with. Looks like there's a questions out there too so I'll see if I can help when it comes in! Thanks guys.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SammyM00782:
And why is the "White" one so much cheaper? I'm gonna bundle it up like a football player anyway so does it really matter? Who doesn't wanna save some change?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Fairly straight forward. Use unrevoked for the 1 click root, then bam, backup then start flashing. All the roms are found in the development section; Personally I recommend CM7 with the Tiamat kernel.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crossrocker:
Or wait a few months for evo 3d and less then that for nexus.

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SammyM00782:
That's fantastic, thank you. I'm currently running 2.3.3 on my hero with Clockwork and it's working much better than it was months ago. There's still some buzz around that forum but it's pretty easy going. I didn't see anything about Firerat's around here....is there something like that or a need for it? The Evo has decent memory compared to my lil Hero lol.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=855424

I never looked til you mentioned it, but ta-da. :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SammyM00782:
Ehh...I don't know. I was told I lose my upgrade privilege april 1st and I don't see a need for 2 cameras or 3d. Is that true though cuz I'm ready for a phone now. The Hero needs to be put to rest now
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Yea the 3D has the 2 cameras in the back for stereoscopic 3D [how your eyes work]. And honestly the 3D is the current evo, with dual core processing, a slightly better gpu, and a bit more memory internally; I personally think you'll be okay getting the Evo now.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjumawan:
@Sammy. If you want I will sell you mine.mines rooted with all the works already.I found a way to make the Samsung galaxy tab make calls is the reason I want to switch. Let me know
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SammyM00782:
Sorry man, I ended up ordering one a few minutes before I came back here. I was on the phone with Sprint getting my pin and he confirmed the april 1st deadline. Also he mentioned my TEP carries over, eventhough I bought it from a 3rd party. Good to know.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wifflepig:
+1

The EVO 3D has a bit more punch - but I'm completely happy with my EVO 4G. I used the Unrevoked's 1 click method, it was brain dead simple. Installed the HTSync, uninstalled it - then installed the hboot drivers, ran the unrevoked app, and in a few moments, I was rooted - w/o having to touch a thing.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SammyM00782:
A bit more punch yes but I see there's overclocked kernels out there. Who's dominating that one? I'm definitely going to try a sense rom (yea I know) and CM7. I owe it to Fresh, Toast and Damage to see what they've come up with for the EVO after all the work on the Hero.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Sounds good then tomodachi...also myn makes great roms. I do hope you enjoy them.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dased14:
Really I would like to know how or where you found how to do this cause that is something I was thinking about doing to my tab and I have not found a good working way.pm me I'd you would and give me a push in the right direction
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DowntownRDB:
Myn's warm 2.2 RLS5 is a great ROM, smooth as butter and easy on battery life. I keep trying new ROMS but always end up coming back to Myn's as my daily ROM. Everything works on it. Just my 2 cents worth.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wifflepig:
In listening to the evo noise, myn and mikfroyo seem to be the popular two.

Sent from your EVO 4G. Thanks for sharing your data plan!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SammyM00782:
Awesome, thanks for the feedback guys. It's nice to know I'm coming from AND going to a good forum. XDA is SUPER popular now! Brings the good and the bad though, I understand. I do my best not to answer dumb questions but some of these forums grow WAY too fast. The Epic forum is not friendly at all and it's keeping me from messing with the g/f's phone but you guys are great :-) Thanks again and see you's all real soon. Hopefully by Tuesday.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hazelfoot:
The Evo is a year old. By the end of your contract it will be 3 and all of the devs will be long gone for newer phones.

Which sucks because the new phones coming out look like they're basically Evo's with dual processors. 3D isn't used widely enough to be worth caring about.

I got a 3D TV a few months ago and and yet to find some 3D porn.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Lol we have our fair share of grumpy people, but good on the whole. And thank you, welcome to the club. :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SammyM00782:
I just realized I said "answer" but meant "ask" lol. This is why I don't mess with coding that much ;-) So, I got this "Ballistic Case" for the phone mostly because I have a "Bodyglove" for the Hero and I damn well know it'd be broken today without it. Yea, it'll make the phone a monster but it needs it. I'm in construction so it gets dropped every now and then. Is there anything else I should be thinking about before I put it to everyday use? Early adopters complained of battery life but I'm gonna assume that's been well addressed since then. Right now, I drop to about 55% on the Hero using CM7, current usage. I hope that circle battery mod I like so much is floating around here somewhere. I've got 20 gigs of Hero files LOL.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SammyM00782:
True but my Hero is well over a year old and there's still new ish coming out for it every week. I don't doubt the longevity of this phone at all because I don't see anything fantastic happening in a few more years as it is. Android had a major beginning run and now I think Windows 7 phones are gonna bum rush the market for a while. Besides that after a while I'll just go get another phone regardless. You hit the nail on the head there, there's really nothing groundbreaking coming out anytime soon.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidtanis:
I going to buy a evo but some one said that the white has a different screen that the black

the white is cap at 30fps

is this true? thanks
[Thunderbolt General] ddarvish:
I am running current widget. This phone is a beast and eats 250mA while idle while my OG droid only was taking 20-30mA. no wonder this sucker dies in 4 hours
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
That shouldn't be that high when idle. I'm doing idle power tests right now, all the time in fact, on my nexus. Checked the thunderbolt and inspire at the store. At least they seem more efficient with screen on, hitting around 430mA at max brightness. My nexus will hit 750mA which drives me nuts.

I'm comparing ginger bread idle power, and Google seems to have made enormous improvements. Idle current draw is now at 8 mA, where on froyo for me its around 18mA. More testing needed.

But I feel that slcd screen is way way better for power than the amoled since most uses show white color anyway.
[Thunderbolt General] ddarvish:
well its pretty consistent idle power draw of 200-250. i have 4G on and syncing on as well. When i am using the phone with the screen on i average around 450-500. when i turn of 4G and have good 3G signal i can get the phone around 45mA
[Thunderbolt General] RogerPodacter:
45mA is still high. I just wiped my phone because I'm averaging 50mA idle all the time no matter what. On this clean install I'm now at 15mA very consistently. But what's driving me nuts is I loaded stock ginger bread, and that ROM stays dead even at freaking 4 - 7mA. It's beautiful, my battery lasts incredibly long on it. But switching back to cyan7 I can't get below 14mA, and its driving me mad.

I just swapped ROMs again a few hours ago to do more tests. I hacked the nexus battery driver to do some useful tests. Wonder if the thunderbolt uses the same driver.
[Thunderbolt General] kalius:
My idle draw is an average 40 with 4G. I'm using the current widget.

It also draws the same on airplane mode. Something is screwed up somewhere...