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[Epic 4G General] xxmastermindxx:
Nexus S 4G tech specs show the same 1GHz processor. It is practically the same phone. I don't think there are any hardware differences other than NFC support built in and lack of an SD slot.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
I wonder how locked down the Samsung GSII will be? Sammy has done well with not locking down phones. That is a plus for them.

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G General] gmap516:
As far as I know, the only "Sprint" app that will be on the Nexus is Google Voice which is being integrated with Sprint phones. That's not really a Sprint app. The point of Nexus phones is to be pure Android. I'm sure Goggle wouldn't allow Sprint apps on it. Also, if you're going to say information on my post is incorrect, you should point it out instead of leaving that as you did.

Also as far as developer support: Sometimes 28472084 developers isn't helpful. As long as I get working CM... Which I will, I don't care who or how many developers are on the Nexus. The EVO forums has TOO MANY ROMS in my opinion. It's hard to sort through, each ROM is only really bringing minimal changes or theme changes, and it's not worth sifting through all of them. MIUI and CM are the ways to go for me... and both will be on the Nexus 4G with 4G working sooner and better than the other 223324244 ROMs for the EVO3D
[Epic 4G General] shabbypenguin:
wtf? its a pure google experience.. no apps besides what google says thats all there is to it. its the same phone as the tmobile version just with wimax. preorders have started at sprint stores so my guess april 17th is when the echo comes out a week or two after that at the latest. they dont do preorders for phones out that far.

as for dev support congrats cyanogen may buy an evo 3d, but i assure you some of the devs from the epic cm team and the tmobile nexus s cm team will be making sure that cyanogenmod is running on the nexus s within a week. dameon is going to be hounding that phone trying to get anything that may help with cm on the epic. as for LTS hows the heroc coming along? good eh? how about those official updates? no one cares because we have devs that are capable of making things work. the nexus 1 is still getting upgrades from google, so with the nexus s it means for a good couple of year users can expect updates.. and im ok with that meanwhile yes the evo lineup gets the most upgrades for sprint but even still its no where near as fast or as often as other phones

EDIT: was reminded that the nexus s 4g will have one other difference it will have a cdma radio instead of its gsm one ;)
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Nexus S 4G is overrated. Also, I guess you haven't noticed...Sprint doesn't lock down their bootloaders :)

If they did, why didn't the Shift get locked down like all the other Desire Z based devices?

Your reasoning for not getting the HTC Evo 3D is wrong. You would get an outdated phone, Nexus S 4G, over the latest and greatest for what? Because you don't want to agree with me?

The HTC EVO 3D will have the most developer support here and that is all that matters. I don't want to be stuck in another situation where everyone is complaining about the lack of developers. Seriously, the Epic is STILL behind. And I don't know why any of the developers on the Epic would ever consider getting the Nexus S 4G.

Shabby, I highly doubt Dameon gets the Nexus S 4G, and I wouldn't be surprised if konane got it because he is a AOSP type person. 75% of the developers will get the HTC EVO 3D from this phone for sure. I highly doubt they would make a mistake and get the Nexus S 4G. Again, an already outdated phone with Samsung only makes it worse. Why do you think people passed on the Nexus S for T-Mobile originally?

EDIT: "how about those official updates? no one cares because we have devs that are capable of making things work."

LMAO, I cannot help but laugh at the and the ignorance of that statement. Where have you been for the past 7 months? Have we not been hounding Samsung and Sprint enough to get Froyo that it never mattered in the first place? Cause you are so right, before official froyo came out we had all the developers making froyo roms...wait no we didnt.

Seriously all of the SDS device communities have been wanting their official updates to the next OS. I guess no cares though
[Epic 4G General] shabbypenguin:
if sprint could figure out how to im sure they would

it did, just the matter of scotty2 already knew what to do, dont believe me ask the thunderbolt community same exploit same root.

i didnt say i didnt want to get the evo 3d. i stated why getting the evo 3d simply because one person is getting it isnt the best idea in the world. as for it all its to each their own. and honestly the latest and greatest in android is still coming out for tmobile...

thats cool good for you man. why? simple its about freedom of choice then

ill be sure to let him know

Mar 28 12:25:35 <Dameon|m> Someone buy me a ns4g lmao

Mar 28 12:32:35 <Dameon|m> I want a ns4g

Mar 28 12:33:33 <Dameon|m> I want a freaking dev phone

hm guess your right he really doesnt want one.... and as it stands now as he is head of the epic cm7 team if he asked the community as a whole and said hey look i can get cm7 working i know i can i just need the ns4g to get this crap ported how many would pledge for that?

odd i remember several devs working on things back at launch trying to enable jit and make custom kernels and roms.. it all just fizzled when froyo kept getting delayed
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Ok maybe you do have a point all of the other parts, but this...

"odd i remember several devs working on things back at launch trying to enable jit and make custom kernels and roms.. it all just fizzled when froyo kept getting delayed"

You proved my point. Thank you. It is actually why everyone wants software updates from the manufactures.
[Epic 4G General] shabbypenguin:
no doubt that it helps but look at the heroc, it was 6+ months to get 2.1, they are chillin on 2.3 right now because of the devs hard work not the OEM's
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
True, HTC gave up it's support for Eris and Hero too early. I had the Hero, and it was the reason why I got the Epic over the EVO. Now I realize HTC really is the best at putting out updates, and HTC is what all the major developers favor over any other manufacturer. Like I said, people passed up Nexus S just because it was Samsung.
[Epic 4G General] shabbypenguin:
right but its google doing the updates not samsung, they passed it up because of hardware limitations, hands down if i had to pick id choose an lg phone over htc any day. they have unlocked bootloaders, stock aosp phones, source code day 1 of sales, and make some pretty decent phones
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
So for all of the millions of developers that the Evo has over the Epic, what can they do that we can't? As of right now, TV out is the only thingI can think of. And what good is the TV out on the Evo, because the ****ty hardware isn't capable of playing any video unless its specifically re-encoded to a format that the Evo can play. Our Epic's can rip through ANY 720p mkv file that exists. Ever try playing one of those on the Evo, which was DESIGNED as a media phone with its big screen and a kickstand for watching video??? Hilariously awful.

I take superior hardware over superior dev support ANY day of the week.

So I will wait and see what the benchmarks look like for the GPU and what the reviews look like. Anandtech will make or break the phone for me.
[Epic 4G General] richse:
Wow, way to ignore all the valid points about the drawbacks of the Evo 3D. I kinda expected more from you than make a statement that we don't want an Evo 3D simply because "we don't agree with you."

When you say sprint doesn't lock their bootloaders I am going to guess you mean encrypt them motorola style because you should at least know the Heroc and Evo came locked. I will love coming back to this when the Evo 3D comes out locked down like the most recent HTC phones and seeing how your conjecture that they don't lock bootloaders has held up. Even in the best case scenario, where the ability to load custom roms is available, you will not have 4G with any AOSP build. I suppose you don't mind not having 4G on your top of the line phone, but it would bother the hell out of me.
[Epic 4G General] richse:
The best for putting out updates is Google by a mile. They will keep the Nexus devices running the latest and greatest months before HTC. The Evo 3D has some better hardware and Sense (if you like that) but no way are fast updates a selling point when compared to the Nexus S.
[Epic 4G General] shabbypenguin:
actually 4g is working just fine with cm7 on evo, they got the modules and drivers working so as long as htc doesnt change em shouldnt be a hitch
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
Wait, how did my name get here? And who says I'm going to get another device?
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Just one person assuming that since they are BEYOND sold on a device that all other rational and smart people must also be sold on said device.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Keep it on topic an friendly or infractions will be issued and the thread will be closed. Thank you.
[Epic 4G General] shabbypenguin:
anyways to anyone considering the evo 3d because of cm7 support http://twitter.com/#!/cyanogen/status/53120684221665281

:O

dont worry tho toastcfh is still getting it and will prolly have cm7 running on it but this certainly changes the shape of things to come :D
[Epic 4G General] richse:
I was thinking it would be likely they are going to change the modules but maybe they wont. Either way, I still think there are valid points of going with an AOSP phone.
[Epic 4G General] shabbypenguin:
oh i wholeheartly agree and i will be patiently waiting for people to join in the ns4g irc room ;)

which i just made on fossnet info is as follows:

irc.fossnet.info #nexus-4g

or you can use the webchat:

http://webirc.fossnet.info/?channels=Nexus-4g
[Epic 4G General] richse:
I will definitely be joining you there, my school blocks irc or I'd jump in now. My wife already has her Nexus S 4g pre-ordered. She's still using her heroc with CM7 so she had an upgrade. I'm unfortunately going to be stuck for another 1.5 years since I'm losing the 1 year upgrade option in April.
[Epic 4G General] gmap516:
How is it overrated, how is it outdated, and why do you need 290489230 developers each with their own ROM? I found that to be one of the most frustrating parts of the developer experience on the EVO. TOO MANY DAMN ROMS!
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Lol, yeah compared to having too few ROMs? I have have a wide variety to select from then none at all. Monopoly much?

Also, it's been out for 3 months now, and it's processor has already been replaced. Check out the Samsung Galaxy S II. :)
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I guess you forgot when Cyanogen said he wasn't getting the Nexus S...he certainly changed his mind very quickly lmao
[Epic 4G General] gmap516:
What more do you really need other than CM, MIUI, and if you have an HTC phone - a sense ROM?

3 options sounds like plenty to me. I only have two on my EVO that I ever use. CM and some sense ROM I forgot the name of (Again, because there's like 93 that all have the same features, but are just themed differently)

On the LG Optimus S development happened over at AndroidCentral's forums. There were two ROMS. N-ROM and ThundeROM. Both were great, both offered slightly different features, and none of the developers were looking for an ego boost. Infact, they all teamed up to make a third ROM - LEGO ROM, which featured customizable features from both ROMs so that you can get the best of both worlds.

Aside from that, the development team and community were VERY friendly over there, very small-town feeling, and I LOVED it. I far prefer that to the overwhelming size of XDA and the overwhelming EGOs as a result of that.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
As a retire developer as well, I know how much it means to have numerous other developers working on the same phone as you. It helps with the progress of the device and improvement of overall quality of the rom flashing experience.

ROM flashers will tell you they love trying out new ROMs and flashing them over and over. It's actually alot of fun to try out all the developers ROMs. Not when you have a Monopoly with CM7 and MIUI....boring

Well, sadly I don't share the same views as you. I won't continue this conversation.
[Epic 4G General] shabbypenguin:
i do recall that, but i also remember that cyanogen is on tmobile... so either way he wont be getting the nexus s 4g the evo that he currently has was given to him

Edit: figured id post how i know (im on tmobile with the htc vision, the same one taht he has)
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Yeah, I knew that much. I would think someone would give him the EVo 3D too, but who knows.
[Epic 4G General] xxmastermindxx:
Anandtech reviews the dual core Snapdragon/GPU combo that will power the EVO3D. Although its a mobile development platform, its overclocked, and the screen is a little smaller than what the EVO will ship with, its a good look at some numbers.
[Epic 4G General] gmap516:
Preordered my Nexus from Best Buy!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] niv3d:
Once on stock EC05 are we able to convert to EXT4 if we use a custom kernel? Or is this not possible yet?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Top Nurse:
Have you tried rooting with 3.0.0.6? I ODIN'd to stock DI18, then used the one click 3.0.0.6 to root and did ext 4 followed by Bonsai 4.0.0 It should work. YMMV :D
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackal516:
Stock rom

It seem there is a few ways to have EXT4 and EC05.

The way I did it was:

I had the latest and greatest SyndicateROM on my Epic with Ext4 (of coarse)

Then I went to this post by k0nane:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1003447

There all I grabbed was the Modem, just the modem and nothing but the modem. Its a 15Mb tar file

Then load the the modem tar/ with pit into ODIN and flashed it over.

Now i have SyndicateROM Frozen 1.0.2 EXT4 EC05
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] niv3d:
you odin'd to DI18 then updated to EC05 and did EXT 4 root?
[Legend General] superman0218:
Hi,

I have a locked HTC Bell Legend, which as some of you might know is now upgradeable to 2.2 via an OTA update as of last week.

The problem I'm having though is that my phone isn't seeing any updates (gives the "your phone is up to date" popup when I check). I have tried rebooting, going through wifi, using *#*#checkin#*#*.

Does anyone have any ideas or know of a place I can manually install the update?

Thanks for any help.
[Legend General] marclh1992:
You can either root your Legend and install a custom FroYo ROM or go to the following website and install the Bell 2.2 rom.

http://www.shipped-roms.com/shipped/Legend/
[Legend General] superman0218:
Thanks!

I've never installed a ROM this way before, can someone point me to a helpful guide? I searched around a bit and didn't find much.

EDIT: to clarify, the links above are to the official Bell 2.2 ROMs, but doesn't have the RUU. I can't find any resources on how to install an official ROM release without RUU on a locked phone.
[Legend General] gstyle_1:
make a gold card, download the htc 2.2 world wide english edition update, with the gold card in your phone runt the update, it worked for me i installed 2.2 a month ago without rooting my phone. I have also sim unlocked my phone.

when its done put in the apn data for your carrier and your good.
[Legend General] gstyle_1:
addition to first post:

im also with Bell.

email me and i will send you the link for the one step gold card.
[Legend General] Driodl:
I *do* get the update, but it fails because I removed some of the stock apps.

I've been trying to find the APKs for these (yes, I know, I should have made a backup).

Does anyone have, or can point me in the right direction for getting these apps back ? In particular the stock (DCSSTOCK.apk) and twitter apps.

Thanks,

Rob.
[Legend General] psyionx:
You can switch the rom.zip inside the ruu with any other official rom I think. If you don't want to make a gold card.
[General Topics] gmap516:
[reserved for side-by-side comparison and other things!]

Thanks!

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They offer $150 for you to switch from them, if you buy a smart phone. Pretty nice deal!

Deal running through 4/16, but call Sprint to check.
[General Topics] anthonyf27:
I'm good with my Shift. Thanks.
[General Topics] wireless.praying.mantis:
This thread has been reported to theimpaler747 as it has nothing to do with the HTC EVO 4G.
[General Topics] gmap516:
Sigh......
[General Topics] theimpaler747:
Moved to XDA general.
[General Topics] gmap516:
Did they really edit the title of this thread too?
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
I really wish Verizon would get a stock developer Android phone.

Nexus Two? One can dream.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sleepyfu:
has anyone had .nomedia file causing file deletions?

happened to me twice now.

[via XDA app]
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VibrantOwnr:
i usually just rename the folder with a period in front of the name...stops media scans

example:

change "media" to ".media"

without the quotes of course
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sleepyfu:
ah. great idea thanks.

[via XDA app]
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VibrantOwnr:
you're welcome
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rotorocker:
Hey all, I'm sure a ton of you use Handcent. I had this issue on my OG Droid and still on the TB. I have it checked to auto resize through handcent, yet every time I take a pic and go to send it, I still have to confirm to autoresize before I send it. Isn't that the whole point of having it checked? I tried googling the issue but couldn't find a solution. Anyone else able to bypass that step when sending a picture?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rotorocker:
cmon, there's gotta be some handcent people here :D
[Off-topic] jul644:
hello i have a pictures of me and my brother on my birthday and id like to print it to frame it but some goof jumped in the back ground are you able to photo shop him out here is the photo

if you can i can e-mail you the actually photo

if any one could do this i would be for ever grateful and if its really good i could send you 5$ ?
[Off-topic] obsidianchao:
It appears some blocks got in the way, too. Damn. Your luck is out.

(It's possible, but I lack the skill to do it. Doubt anyone will want compensation, though.)

Samsung Fascinate, Verizon

EB01 Superclean 2.4

Kenesis' TransMyst GBKB (EPIIIIIC)

Mob87's Honeycomb Theme

Stock Kernel
[Off-topic] jul644:
lol

lol i put the blocks in so theres not photos of me and my brother posted all around lol i do have a copy with out the blocks :)
[Off-topic] jaszek:
You can send it to me. PM me for my e-mail. I'll do it by 8PM EST tonight.
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Did I quickie on the picture with the boxes to see how it turned out ;) Is this okay?
[Off-topic] Carla:
That looks really good! Just gotta get the guys fingers out of the left side of the pic in the final version.
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Ahh Okay :D PM the image if you want and I'll do it all... Unless you're going for Jaszek :p
[Off-topic] souljaboy:
Lol dirk , i demand a charlie sheen themed one :D
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Overstew:
See picture attached, I keep removing them from playlist, but whenever media scanner runs, it readds them.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Top Nurse:
Need a little more info here. ;)
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Overstew:
Like what? The only change was I restored from an old rom AFTER adding .nomedia files to most of my external sd card folders. Everytime I delete them (hence the picture), they reappear and its annoying listening to them whenever I use my mp3 player.
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
After some reading on battery calibration, I've come across a thread that says that maximum battery voltage (that is the voltage of a full battery) is calibration dependant and can be increased by wiping battery stats and the minimum voltage (the voltage at which the phone shuts down) is kernel dependant and there is little that can be done (except of couse flashing another kernel). So I'm trying to find if this is true. Please post your voltages here along with some information on your ROM / kernel.

Here are mine results:

100% - EDIT: Just noticed that imediately after unplug the voltage drops to 4145mV (4199mV while plugged)

2% - 3545mV (the phone shut down when going down to 1% and I couldn't see the voltage but I presume it is somewhere around 3500mV)

I'm running on ARHD 3.2 and the kernel that came with it.

Any info will be appreciated!
[Desire HD General] Vispe85:
You can't affect the max/min mV through battery calibration/wiping stats, or by any other way either, they are completely dependent on the battery itself. The max is usually 4201 mV (might show a bit over that momentarily). The battery calibration/wiping stats just affect the phones own battery level meter, that's all.

There are ways to make the device turn off at a lower voltage, or so I have read, but I'm no expert in that matter so... I wouldn't recommend to try to make the battery go on lower than it automatically does. And I think that the battery voltage goes a little bit lower before shutting off when you don't actively use it. So idle shut down voltages can be a little lower.
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
Well, I got my info from this thread. There are people that report different shutdown voltages there, so I think it's plausable that this is kernel dependant. Anyway, HD2 being a WM device, I tend not to trust absolutely everything that has to do with Android on the HD2, but I still think it's worth checking this out.
[Desire HD General] Vispe85:
As I said I have read it is possible to change the shutdown voltage. I was referring to the fact that you said that it could be possible to increase the max voltage somehow, which is impossible without doing serious harm to the battery i.e trying to overcharge it somehow. And it is also harmful to get the battery to drain close to being completely empty.

And to answer your original question, max 4201 and min somewhere around 3500 (can't recall any exact as I rarely let it drain completely, I remember having some lower values sometime in the past also). Running CM7 :cool:
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
Oh, OK - I didn't really make it clear. What I meant was the voltage at which the phone reports full battery.
[Desire HD General] Vispe85:
Okok, that is battery stats dependent and that's the reason why the battery should always be completely charged when wiping stats. I guess we are on the same page now :p
[Thunderbolt General] ksizzle9:
Rooting isnt a problem for me, but im not skilled enough to port miui, would HAPPILY DONATE for a prt of miui. Love that ROM, i know people say its like the iphone but it just brings a different look and feel to android that is very very polished. Dont know about you guys but i would love to see this.
[Thunderbolt General] Nikolai2.1:
The only problem would be getting the LTE radio to work im pretty sure.. i think they have the 4g working on the Inspire's MIUI rom but im not sure how hard this would be