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[Atrix 4G General] HTC Chris:
What firmware did your device have before you flashed back to 3.1? I can't find any tutorials that will let you downgrade the last firmware made for the iPhone 2g (3.1.3 released in 2009)
[Atrix 4G General] saywhat4118:
So looks like I'll have to downgrade the phone and then try. Cool thanks guys I'll let yall know what happens.
[Atrix 4G General] mandrsn1:
I just did it on firmware 3.1.3 and the newest iTunes.

I chose a plan that has $35/month for unlimited data and 200 SMS.
[Atrix 4G General] Jtu89:
http://www.simonblog.com/2009/09/22/how-to-downgrade-iphone-2g3g-from-firmware-3-1-to-3-0/

I'm in the process of trying to get unlimited data also.
[Atrix 4G General] frisko4one5:
would this work for my iphone 4 as well or just non iphone smart phones? i really want unlimited data for my iphone 4. i hate having to watch my data useage and just want to not even think about it. please let me know before i spend money buying a iphone 2g.

also i guess i would need a micro sim adapter to fit my sim card in the old 2g?
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
Yes it will work for iPhone 4 usage and yes for an adapter for a micro sim. Its only a few bucks on Amazon.
[Atrix 4G General] frisko4one5:
thanks alot man!! now i just need to find a 2g on craigslist asap and get a new sim card from att
[Atrix 4G General] joda08:
ok i'm a bit confused. what you do here is change your current plan (for me atrix $25 a mont 2gig data plan) to an unlimited plan(keeping it on the same line my atrix was on)? or is it starting a new line when you activate the iphone 2g in itunes?
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
This loophole will turn your current boring 2GB plan into a unlimited plan. :D
[Atrix 4G General] dorkboy69:
I have an iPhone 2g that I just used for this. I will be putting it up for sale on the market shortly if anyone is interested.
[Atrix 4G General] Sparx10:
Ohh that's why you need an iPhone 2G
[Atrix 4G General] erraz:
Has anyone just stayed on the iPhone plan after doing this
[Atrix 4G General] mikeli689:
^^ Was thinking about doing the same. Has anyone's data speeds gone down after changing to the SmartPhone Personal plan? When I was on the IPhone Data Plan speeds were 2mb down/1mb up. Now it's like 400kb down/1mb up. Kind of wish I just stayed with the Iphone plan. This is on the Atrix btw.
[Atrix 4G General] chaunspecial:
Since I have to do a complete restore on the iPhone 2G, will this delete everything on the phone? It's not my phone and this will be restored on a fresh copy of iTunes 9.0. I'm a bit hesitant to do this if it deletes everything.
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
Whenever you restore it always deletes everything. Just make a backup..do what you gotta do and after the loophole is complete ..restore the phone again from a backup.
[Atrix 4G General] leperkuan:
Can't... wont let you for some reason.
[Atrix 4G General] chaunspecial:
Thanks for the info. So there's no other way around this trick other than using iTunes? I was told by someone else that I should be able to just plug my current sim card into the iPhone 2G and have AT&T recognize that it's on a 2G phone. Then I can plug the sim card back into my current phone (Blackberry 9810) and it should work. BTW, I currently have the $25 data plan if that makes any difference.
[Atrix 4G General] voltmeter101:
there is a couple guys on ebay that will do this unlimited loophole for you if you dont have an iphone. like me i bought a iphone and wouldnt you know it, wouldnt read sim card, so i just paid him 40 bucks to do it for me rather then try my luck with another iphone
[Atrix 4G General] potfish:
Forgive me if this is answered already but there are 106 pages to this thread. I did read the first few and last few.

I'm about to move to the US and need a brand new cellphone service. Never had one in the US before. I do have an iPhone 2G as well as 3GS (wife's) and Atrix (mine). All three are officially unlocked by the network in the UK. Is this AT&T deal likely to be what we want to get for each of us? Coming from the UK, any possible deal I can find in the US is horrifically expensive compared to what I'm used to.

Where would I get a "brand new AT&T SIM" - is that something I get from a store or do I need to sign some sort of contract to even get started?

Of course they might not want us for credit score reasons.
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
You will need to go to an AT&T store if you want service with them. I am an ex-pat also. My phone bill is $260+ per month with them for 5 phones, (2 smartphones, and 3 texting phones for the kids). If your credit is bad, or as your case will be, you have no credit history in the US which can be just as bad, they will more than likely ask for something like $400 security for each line to enter into a contract. I believe that's what all the carriers may do. You couild maybe go with AT&T pre-pay, but I believe this will severely cripple your use of a smartphone due to data limitations.

Best bet...........call a store over here in the area you will be moving to and ask about it.

I'm lucky. I have been in the US for years, so I have no problems as with those you will encounter anymore. A lot of people complain about AT&T, but in all honesty, apart from some of their pricing, I have had great service 95% of the time, and I have lived all over the states.

Good luck with the move!
[Atrix 4G General] HTC Chris:
I confirm a few things, since I just got my unlimited data plan :):

-You don't need an older version of Itunes, the latest one works fine.

-You don't need to downgrade, the latest version available for the iPhone 2g works fine, 3.1.3

-You don't need a new sim card, my simcard from my Galaxy s2 worked just fine.

-You don't need to wait before calling ATT as it automatically shows up on the ATT website that you have an iPhone unlimited data plan.

-It is possible to transfer the unlimited data over the phone, just tell the agent that you have an iphone with unlimited data and you want to keep it in your new phone.
[Atrix 4G General] Jumpie:
does this still work today after the elimination of unlimited data?

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So this still works today? I can get an iPhone 2G, activate in iTunes for unlimited data and 200 text, then get a different iPhone and keep the unlimited data? wow! If so, I'm on this!
[Atrix 4G General] lurchbyrep:
Are there any ATT in-store reps here? If so, there's something I wanna know...

I've had my Atrix since back in February. If I get an iPhone 2g and activate it with the unlimited Edge plan, will the store reps be able to see my phone history when I go in to get unlimited HSPA for my Atrix? I know my online account info will show me CURRENTLY using the iPhone, but will it be apparent to a store rep that I was using my Atrix for 8 months prior? I just don't want to look like an ass when I go in. Thanks.
[Atrix 4G General] newter55:
At&t store reps are easier than calling customer service to get the switch.
[Atrix 4G General] lurchbyrep:
I appreciate this, but I'm still wondering about my question. Thanks.
[Atrix 4G General] rebelatheart:
How are some of you getting ATT to give you a new sim card? This whole thing is giving me the blues lol.

I tried to do this loophole with a iphone 2g i bought using a sim card from a iphone 3g that I use to have on ATT before I ported out. (probably not smart to use a deactivated sim I suppose) I got to the end and submitted for activation. It said it would take 3 min, and then it timed out. I got a few emails yesterday saying that it was processing. But thats it, so Im going to assume it didnt go through. And now when i plug the iphone back it, i get a white screen that says Iphone. Sometimes that activation is processing and will take 3 minutes screen shows up, but then i get an error.

Anyway, I went to a att authorized retailer and a corp store and both refused to just hand it over. Both wanted to activated it on my account first. At the corp store, I told the guy that i had a iphone 2g and I needed a sim. He insisted that he had to activated the sim in the store with a number first before I could take it.

Am i suppose to say something in particular so they can just give it to me? I dont see what the big deal is. I even offered to pay that the authorized retailer.
[Atrix 4G General] dorkboy69:
I did this with my atrix the wife's blackberry and sons captivate with no issues. I think it just shows the phone you have and that you are on an unlimited plan.
[Atrix 4G General] loktite:
@rebel. Does your current att phone smartphone not have a sim card? You need to use that one. If it's a micro, get an adapter.
[Atrix 4G General] imegatron:
Can anyone help me out? Sorry if this has been asked but I am getting a family plan with 3 iphone 4S on AT&T. Can I apply this trick after activating the three iphone 4S with 2Gb data plans? Can the same iphone 2g be used for three lines? I have never used AT&T before.
[Atrix 4G General] dorkboy69:
I used the sim cards from the three phones mentioned two posts above this past week and it worked for me using the same phone.

The trick is to activate one then check your data plan online and when it shows the 2g unlimited plan you can put the sim back in your original phone.

I bought the phones in march of this year and the 2g last week. You could also activate the iphone 2g on your lines before buying the iPhone 4s.
[Atrix 4G General] megatron99:
If I buy iphone 2g and activate it first, can I still buy 4S at the subsidized price? I am guessing I have to go to store to get the family plan because if I do online then I have to select a phone.
[Atrix 4G General] dorkboy69:
Yes when you activate the 2g you will not be under a contract therefore eligible for and upgrade to the 4s.

If done that way it would take awhile to get all the phones cause you would be doing one at time.
[Atrix 4G General] slizekalfer:
This may no longer work, it looks like Apple has removed the activation system from iTunes. Trying an older firmware but it doesn't look hopeful.
[Atrix 4G General] Hawkofglory:
wow this sucks i cant get the phone to start activating, i just got it today... my luck the activation wont start
[Atrix 4G General] dorkboy69:
Try a different. Computer I had to do that with the last two I activated
[Atrix 4G General] Hawkofglory:
I've tried 2 they both recognize the iPhone but won't start activating
[Atrix 4G General] dorkboy69:
Did you try to restore it with iTunes?

How about a different sim card?
[Atrix 4G General] Hawkofglory:
no not a new sim card, where would i get one? ebay
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
At&t should give you one for free. Just say you were switching between phones and you misplaced it.
[Atrix 4G General] Jtu89:
The activation still works. Although, at the end of the "activation" process, iTunes will return a failure popup mentioning server timeout. So long you got an e-mail saying that AT&T is processing your activation, then you're set. After that, you will get another e-mail saying that AT&T has successfully activated your service. All for the best peeps!
[Atrix 4G General] dorkboy69:
^ ^

What he said.
[Atrix 4G General] mandrsn1:
I tried a few times over the course of a week before it finally worked.
[Atrix 4G General] lllpepilll:
Does anyone have an iphone 2g that I could use just for this, I will pay shipping. I live in Katy, Texas.
[Atrix 4G General] lurchbyrep:
Anyone do this successfully in the last couple of days? I finally ordered a 2g on eBay today. Hoping this exploit didn't get patched right before I give it a whirl.
[Atrix 4G General] Ronacarino:
Just wondering. I have an old iphone 2g, but i have a black screen it lights up though, just can't see anything in display..

would it still be able to work? the itunes still recognizes it.
[Atrix 4G General] dorkboy69:
As long as iTunes recognized it it should work.
[Atrix 4G General] Hawkofglory:
it works fine i finally got it going
[Atrix 4G General] rebelatheart:
What did you see at the end on itunes? I just tried and with my iphone 4s sim, and I got to the screen where it said it was processing and it could take up to 3 minutes, then it said the network connection timed out or something like that.

Thanks
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
You get any confirmation email from at&t?
[Atrix 4G General] rebelatheart:
I got two emails...1 from the itunes stores that said "ATT is not processing your activations"...and another from ATT activations which gave me a order # and said it is processing.

I tried this the other day with a sim from my old iphone 3g and got the same two emails, but nothing else.

This time i tried my iphone 4s sim. I got those emails right away after itunes timed out.

Not sure where i screwed up. I also put my sim back in my 4s just to make sure that wasnt screwed up. Then i turned the phone off. hope that didnt screw something up too :-(
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
hmm..should've waited till the 2G unlimited data plan was showing on your OLAM..
[Atrix 4G General] rebelatheart:
I didnt think it worked b/c the iphone was still showing connect to itunes. Do i need a new sim now or something? I put it back in the 2g.
[Atrix 4G General] lurchbyrep:
Great, thanks... have you gone to ATT and gotten the 2g plan converted to 3g? I heard some rumor of ATT ceasing to allow it. I just want it confirmed that they'll still "grandfather" me in.
[Atrix 4G General] Jtu89:
Yes, just call 611. If the representative is knowledgeable, then he or she will automatically ask the supervisor to override the system to allow you to get the unlimited data on the 4G plan.

---------- Post added at 11:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:15 PM ----------

So long you entered data in iTunes and go to the end, and you got an e-mail, then you're set.
[Atrix 4G General] anseio:
Hey!

Very new here and doing a lot of reading on rooting the Atrix and the Inspire as I decide which one I want to get. Tethering is a concern of mine and I'm at a loss to find a tethering thread where my particular question will best fit. This thread seems to be the closest.

I've been using Nokia feature phones (read: not smartphones) for years. I'm on the extremely old Media Max Unlimited plan for 19.99/mo (unltd data and 200 SMS). Think I got that plan coming up on 5 years ago. WOW. Anyway, I've never been able to tether on my devices until I got the Nokia 6700 classic. For a year, I was tethering at 3G speeds and then they kicked up to 3.5G speeds this past spring. I actually did a massive set of downloads this past April and did about 400x the basic AT&T data plan. 800GB in one month!!! and for $20!!! All I had to do to go from 2G to 3G data speeds was update my IMEI on my account. It was that easy for me.

Ok, so I've been bitten by the smartphone bug and cannot wait for a Nokia WP7. My immediate worry was that I would have issues w/ my data plan. I refuse to pay the extortion-esque rates currently being charged with a lack of true competition in the market. So, I go into an AT&T store and asked to put my sim in a WP7 device. I connected. YAY! I put the card back into my Nokia and went home. The next day, I got an SMS stating that I needed a compatible plan for a smartphone and that it had been changed for me. "Like he\\ you did!" was my response. I called up, got a seasoned rep, demanded my old plan, had a ticket filed, and everything was back to normal in 5 days.

About 2 weeks ago, I bought a used T-Mobile HTC HD2 for $80 for the sole purpose of seeing if I could skirt around AT&T knowing that I was using a smartphone or not. I rooted it and spent an eternity getting WP7 installed and updated to Mango. Got the internet no prob (2G only, due to hardware differences). I didn't like the battery life, so I switched to CM7 Gingerbread 2.3.6 and am still able to connect/tether. I just checked and AT&T still doesn't know what device I'm using. YAY!

Now for my latest concern. I need an AT&T device that has the right bandwidths for high speed. If I get an ATRIX, root it, and flash it with a different ROM... will that keep me under the radar? I want to avoid being forced from my data plan.

I ask because I'm not sure If I'm either not finding a relevant thread, of if my situation is that unique because I have a b*tchin ancient data plan.

Thanks for any input/advice.
[Atrix 4G General] newter55:
@anseio

The best source for phones that at&t will not recognize, thus allowing medianet plans, with the correct 3g frequencies are from bell ( Canada). Many are often available on the marketplace here on xda.

Edit...marketplace name has been changed to "wanting to sell"
[Atrix 4G General] anseio:
Ooooh, thanks for the info! I guess that makes sense to buy another non-AT&T device, but make sure that the next one has the right bandwidths. Pricing may become an issue, so I may revert to my feature phones until my Nokia WP7 dream comes true.
[Atrix 4G General] lurchbyrep:
So, are you saying you have yourself talked to a CSR and updated your unlimited plan within the last couple of days? What I have been asking is for very recent experiences, since I've heard from a couple of sources that ATT is now trying to change things. Thanks.
[Atrix 4G General] newter55:
No the last few posts were off topic. They are in regards to using a non at&t branded phone on the medianet plan which is unlimited but much cheaper. Mine is 10.99/line as I have unlimited family massaging plan included. Without messaging I believe it is $15 though I am not sure on that.
[Atrix 4G General] defiftyae:
I have an iphone 2g for rent in the los angeles area if anybody is interested before we run out of luck
[Atrix 4G General] Jtu89:
Yes. I called as soon as I got a text message saying that I should upgrade to 4g data plan. I did this for two phones, in the past two weeks. I didn't read the last few posts, but since iphone 4gs are out, I would suspect a change in activation because they experienced server overload.
[Atrix 4G General] lllpepilll:
I need an iphone, does anybody have one to lend or sell? PM me please, I live in Katy, Texas.
[Atrix 4G General] jbsg02:
Picked up an old iPhone today from craigslist. I'm still on sprint at the moment but will move back to ATT. Since I'm not currently with ATT, is there a best way activate this and get unlimited?
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
No. You NEED an activate sim card on At&t.
[Atrix 4G General] networkdood:
In AT&Ts billing system, if the IMEI is an iphone 2G, then the 20.00 plan shows up for data unlimited. Wait a few days and call in to have the IMEI switched to whatever smartphone you want to use. The billing system will then allow the rep to add the matching 30.00 unlimited data plan.

Managers no longer have the ability to readd unlimited data and cases will not work, unless you had the feature all along and it was removed in error.

You may also be able to go online and try this, but I have not done this online, only with customer care recently. Their rules state that anyone with unlimited smartphone data can switch smartphones and keep the data unlimited, albeit, the actual feature code more than likely will change as AT&T uses a different code for Blackberries, iphones, and all other smartphones....and if the phone is 4G, then it will have a different code from a 3G data plan.
[Atrix 4G General] lurchbyrep:
I don't understand. Are you saying that in-store reps no longer have the authority to switch the plan for us? What do you mean "cases will not work?" What kind of a "case" are you talking about?
[Atrix 4G General] gtkansan:
Anyone gotten this to work in the last couple days? It wont go through for me...
[Atrix 4G General] networkdood:
Not sure about stores...doubt it...if you call and want the feature back a case can be created to get the feature ...a billing case...but it must be for business reasons. So just use an iPhone 2g and then later switch to the phone you want. If you are upgrade eligible then switch the phone by calling care. Do the upgrade online or store and option for unlimited data will be there.

Sent from somewhere, lost in time
[Atrix 4G General] gtkansan:
Ive been trying and it keeps failing saying there is a network issue...
[Atrix 4G General] networkdood:
They have been having issues for a while since iphony 4s was announced ...I would call customer care for help.

Sent from somewhere, lost in time
[Atrix 4G General] jbsg02:
I just ported my number from sprint and put my new sim card in the phone, it went through the activation on itunes, but the phone is still reading no service. How come and how do I fix this, I haven't got my new phone yet, so I wil just gonna use this iphone for a couple of days
[Atrix 4G General] gtkansan:
Anyone have any particular luck with a itunes version? Im using 9.3 and it is still giving me that network error.
[Atrix 4G General] dorkboy69:
I got the network error the last two phones I did. Try checking your account on at&t and see if it shows unlimited data.
[Atrix 4G General] Jtu89:
I used the newest iTunes, 10.5.
[Atrix 4G General] jbsg02:
I too used the newest itunes, but it was the windows version. my osx version didn't want to do it for some reason
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
I had this issue as well when I did this months back. For some reason it wouldn't work on my mac..but the first try on a windows pc ...bam..unlimited data.
[Atrix 4G General] triplehtown:
I'm looking to buy/rent an iphone 2g in the houston area. If anyone can help, please PM. :)

Thank you
[Atrix 4G General] jbsg02:
Picked up the Galaxy S2 today and the loophole worked! Unlimited data! Gonna try this out for my dad soon too
[Atrix 4G General] rebelatheart:
So you literally activated the iPhone 2G today? What did you see after the processing screen where it said it could take up to 3 minutes?

I did this literally about 2 days ago, and got the network timed out. Even though some ppl said that it still works as long as you got the initial email, Ive yet to get another email..I check olam and still has my 200mb iPhone 4S data plan..and I did the *Data# on my 2g and it still is not coming back unlimited.
[Atrix 4G General] jbsg02:
I activated my sim card yesterday with ATT, took it home and put it in the 2g iphone and activated it through itunes, the iphone still doesn't work, but it went through att's system. I looked online yesterday and it showed the iphone $20 data plan, keep in mind, I did not have any data plan on my account before that. Today I went and bought my gs2 and told the rep that wanted to make sure that i keep my unlimited data plan and said yes. i was in and out in about 10 minutes
[Atrix 4G General] dorkboy69:
I don't think it works if the sim was activated with any other iPhone.

Try a new sim card or from a non apple phone.
[Atrix 4G General] rebelatheart:
People have reported to have used their iphone sim in the 2g. As long as its never been activated on a 2g before its "suppose" to work.

I just got the 4s so that sim definitely hasnt been in a 2g before.
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
This is true. I used my iphone 4's SIM to do this loophole. I bought a microsim adapter off amazon ...worked like a charm.
[Atrix 4G General] rebelatheart:
So, Unless anyone else has done this with a iPhone 4S sim, i have to say that this doesnt work.

After trying with the original micro sim that came with my 4S and never getting an activation complete email or olam showing unlimited data, I went to ATT yesterday and got a new sim after telling them i damaged my 4S micro sim....I never put it back in the 4S and put it right into the 2g,...went thru the itunes process again, using a new itunes account..and Nothing.

Ive followed all the instructions. I even dfu restored the 2g even though it was already showing the connect to itunes screen.

Dont know what else to try.
[Atrix 4G General] lurchbyrep:
So, I got my order to submit on iTunes, but as most people have reported, I also got the server timeout. I did get an email from AT&T stating my order was being processed, and I received an order number. This was around 2 hours ago. How long did it take everyone else before they received word of the order going through?

... and no, my online account management does not YET show the unlimited plan.
[Atrix 4G General] Jtu89:
When i did it, took fifteen minutes. A week later for my sister, one day, which was during the iphone 4gs release weekend.