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[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImS0Raw:
I can't wait. Gingerbread is much faster then 2.1 and 2.2! It also has great keyboard, cut/paste functions! Wifi tethering will be finally possible, timescape + mediascape like widgets! It will be GREAT! Scrolling effects :p (Maybe even better battery and no fps cap?) Hopefully they will suprise us with a S.E. camera and not Android stock camera which sucks and makes photos of 2+3mb :S

So, S.E. suprise us end Q2 and begin Q3!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] william58:
You guys making it sound like we have it already... it could be 9 months or more before we get it here in the states.

This comment from Sony has me concerned:

But we want to be very clear already at this stage on the fact that some of you may not get this upgrade.

Being with AT&T here in WA, I don't think they plan on doing it as they're are dropping the X10 and why I picked it up free last weekend.

I will sing my praises ONLY after I get the Gingerbread update.

Now a couple concerns I have.

I wonder just how crippled the camera is in the gingerbread version? I bought the X10 primarly for the camera.

And does gingerbread support 16 million colors?

So, I'm going to see what XDA is doing and maybe go that route
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwer23:
Yeah, I'm also curious about the camera, but don't worry about getting the update. Everyone who can use SEUS will get the update at the very day it is release ANYWHERE! Hey, we're on xda, right? ;)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chaurjyh:
My hunch is that SE will release another update after 2.3.3 update to address the camera... cos if they can make the ARC camera work, y not the one on x10?? its aint that hard..... if the devs on xda can crack the cam to work on custom roms, they can crack the cam on 2.3.3.....
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aR_ChRiS:
It's not that the camera will not work,

it's just that the SE camera app will not be implemented in the X10 2.3.3

What we are getting instead is the standard Android cam, which is a lot faster when taking pictures and the quality is almost the same.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cg1987:
Just a question for anyone willing to answer lol but gingerbread requires 512mb of ram and the x10 only has 384. Will that not make this device slower than molasses in january going up hill?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
That's not true at all..
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cg1987:
I appreciate the fast response but just wondering if you can expand on your answer. Im running stock sony 2.1 and also still havent rooted my phone but i was just wondering how it wouldnt slow it down because i already have some issues of slow response time sometimes. Ive seen the benchmarks for 2.2 on the x10 and it is an impressive improvement but i also beleive it doesnt require as much ram
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
Its memory management is unparalleled so it can make the most of the ram you have... There are plenty of phones with less ram running gb right now extremely smoothly.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bra1n0uk:
I have a CM ginger rom on my gf's htc wildfire. The phone has rubbish specs compared to ours. It runs gb fine.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abdurahman:
haha they even have gingerbread running on the super crappy galaxy i7500, and that has only like 192mb ram or something
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cg1987:
Haha amazing. Thanks everyone for the help and quick responses. Now all i can do is wait for the update i guess lol. Finally S.E came to their senses. The x10 is an amazing phone just always has a few minor set backs due to the version of software. With an up-to-date version i beleive it will smash alot of the competition. Thanks again everyone
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] totalundone:
I had an i7500 with froyo...

I wouldn't have exactly called it 'running'... ;)

I can't imagine it with gingerbread, but the performance appears to be similar to froyo (which uses the 2.6.35 kernel - why does the Arc/Play/Neo use 2.6.32?)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwer23:
+1

I asked exactly the same earlier but didn't get an answer. Why does SE use 2.6.32 kernel instead of 2.6.35?!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neo.:
What kinda surprises are we talking here???
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwer23:
Sorry, can't say anything as long as my source doesn't want to say it himself. But if I understood correctly what he told me then ... :D:D:D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abdurahman:
yeah, I had that i7500 with froyo, and man was it painful to use. I finally switched back to 1.6 and it was pretty smooth and fast, until I got the xperia and I realized just how slow that phone was lol
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] im_iceman:
Are we talking about them unlocking the bootloader for X10 here by any chance?!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwer23:
:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
No, it's about our gingerbread update that's officially coming to the x10
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
lol @"oh I heard big rumors! BUT I can't tell you guys"

Stupid bs
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ooidort:
Indeed. It's pre-2.1 update hype all over again.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Prodeje79:
I see a thread in the x10 android forum that says they bypassed the bootloader.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neo.:
Haha okay then save it up
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] william58:
I'll believe it when I see it. They promised 2.1 Enclair, now Gingerbread. We have neither yet here with AT&T.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Candy[MAN]:
And that is not SE's fault. SE promised 2.1 and they delivered just like they will with 2.3.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alankstiyo:
the problem has always been carriers, it's up to them to give updates or not, from what I know, base band, fw or any change may affect the performance of the device in the network

however we can flash to another fw region w/o messing up with the warranty
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssj_jaypee:
I hate waiting.

Hopefully the custom xda 2.3 rom will be fully functional before then.

I'm already using FreeX10 2.2 rom and its AMAZING! :D

thanks XDA guys!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
Isn't that the most childish bs you ever heard or what? lol :rolleyes:

I feel like im in grade school all over again.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwer23:
Sorry, didn't mean to spread bs. Shouldn't have posted at all if I can't say anything. I just responded to another post and wanted to confirm that I heard the same. I certainly didn't intend to troll though.

But I suppose the source of all these rumours is reliable. At least it was reliable about SE opening the bootloader on upcoming devices while I told him he's talking crap ;) So let's hope that he's right again and that he'll tell you what's going on. That's all from me about that. Already said too much without hard evidence, so sorry again.

edit: just to show you why I trust these rumours:

--> That dialogue happened before SE published the news officially and it shows that he definitely has some internal knowledge.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darkblake:
things that I think we gonna get:

16 million colors ( without all that junk apps running in background, why not?)

Xperia Play (not certain about...)

Official Playstation Emulator

Timescape LITE (like the one in xperia mini in ARC style)

Stock camera (something like nexus one GB camera)

Removed 32 fps cap (low chances...?)

BUT

Locked Bootloader

P.S: Is just me who thinks that SE should make a cool live wallpaper?Samsung, LG and Motorola have their own, so why not SE?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laill:
We gotta just wait....

Some rumours from China inform that our lovely(is it?)official will be released (at the end?) next month:)

If this is true,then our devs have to work faster in order to bring us a fully-functional GB rom before the lovely SE

Overclocking+16m+fps cap removed is the most perfect combination,you know,it would be so damn cool to have a good HD MV/HD game with such things:D

cheers,

L
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stan.s:
You're a bit confused. The camera IS 16M colors, the the phone's screen is not. Everything you take with the camera is fine, and will continue to be just fine without any shortcomings other than those due to a tiny sensor, but as far as color count, it's full color photos or video.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stan.s:
AT&T won't give you gingerbread at this point. It most likely will not even give a 2.1 either. They EOL'd the phone in February, and only refurb'd are available directly from them. Sonystyle and BestBuy among others have new phones for free or $1 or less.

AT&T/Cingular have never updated any SE phone firmware that they sold in the past, save for the X1 which required Windows update. If apple didn't force it on them they wouldn't update the iphone, if the Samsung wasn't so firmware defective (and they sold 30x the Galaxy S phones than they did X10's) they wouldn't update that. The iphone outsold the Galaxy by 20X. X10's were the smallest smartphone volume sold.

The relationship is shaky, no announcements for the new phones while they have announced plenty of phones from other MFGs that don't exist yet. They must be incredibly PO'd that SE and Verizon made a deal so quickly (2 weeks after Verizon execs saw superbowl ad) for Play. Strangely new phones have no 3G bandwidth support for T-Mobile at all.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stan.s:
Sorry you're wrong.

First of all Rogers in Canada is the same phone and uses the same bands. It's a partner company of AT&T and when you buy the Canada includ package from AT&T you're free on Rogers. Rogers phones are all submitted to the FCC as well. AT&T owns a decent share of Rogers' stock going back to the 90's.

The issue is AT&T wants stuff disabled in the phone that are enabled in the kernel, hotspot, tether et al. They want their apps setup so that they are locked on the firmware. They want the phone to not be rooted. It's these things being done to AT&Ts satisfaction that are holding up the updates on all the android phones they have, as well as passing the testing suite. Passing the test suite is not an issue, this other crap is. Roger's isn't tying down the company apps as tightly.

Second, the warranty is busted is you try to turn in a phone that has 2.1 on it that they didn't put there. I've swapped two bricked phones in person at a service center, and I always said that I was trying to reinstall with SEUS software on XP* cause the phone was malfunctioning (it wouldn't boot back with the early tools). If I told them that I actually had 2.1 on it, they would not accept it. That's why everyone talks about putting 1.6 back on the phone if the phone is physically damaged and they want to swap. The techs always asked, 'you weren't trying to update the phone to 2.1, right? SE's holding that up.' To which I always, smiled, and said, 'really?'

* can't be done with XP SP3, the drivers cause the system to crash and it's a known problem that isn't going to be fixed
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] upcoast:
Will be nice. Im sure i will be on to a new phone by the time this is released. Thanks rogers. Lol.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stan.s:
I don't know. The only practical IMHO, live wall paper is the GRASS one. Besides the occasionally swaying grass, it figures out what's dawn and dusk where you are, and the 'sky' changes accordingly, from day to night. It's a usable wallpaper since most of it is the same color in the background and isn't distracting. The falling leaves one is beautiful, but I can't imagine using it other than fall.

I've tried a lot of live wall papers (it's so cool, right?) but they all suck the battery dry. Do I really want to feed koi on my phone? or a visual equalizer or color organ display or galaxy or any of those interactive screens? I need a empty screen to play with it! Though feeding koi the icons is sort of neat for a couple times.

SE wrote a paper on how to correctly write a live screen, and basically, anything with serious graphics and motion; sucks the life out of the battery. . In effect they said it's 'nice' but it's really hard to find something that isn't overpowering on the battery.

SE used to have some other 'day to night' wallpapers on their javaOS phones. They had major sights (Eiffel Tower, Rome, mont blanc, etc) and the day to night was timed for those spots (not where you are). These would make nice wallpapers on Android but they tend to make the icons hard to read.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samiiii1:
Good news to have 2.3 on X10

regards
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreatBigDog:
Ah, the old Cantel/At&t days, I remember them well :( Cantel was a good cellular provider until At&t got hold of them. Didn't it then change to Rogers/At&t before becoming just Rogers?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mister J:
What about Cingular?

That little cingular guy was cool!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stan.s:
He lives on as the servers for the internet configurations..... though any AT&T CSR can push settings to any phone, I never understood why they never just updated everyone to the newer names.:)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Candy[MAN]:
Wrong and wrong.

In 1999, AT&T invested in Rogers...yes....(and so did Microsoft and British Telecom), however, in 2004, Rogers bought back AT&T's interest in Rogers for $1.8 billion.....and a week later buys Microcell (FIDO) for $1.6 billion.

Off topic.....but just want to clarify things...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stan.s:
I stand corrected.

Two board members held AT&T directorship and one was president of Canadian AT&T units; Scheyler and Horn.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GravvyTrain:
Would I be correct by saying that AT&t x10's could still get the GB update through flashtool or by installing the generic rom through xrecovery...?

If I am right then theres no problem for Att people because the Devs would eventually port it over for use with any x10..
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkaterOllie795:
Wow. I thought Sony abandoned the xperia x10. By the time it comes out every other phone will be on a more updated version
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AyDee:
^It will have to be flashtool but yes we'll get it just like we got 2.1 when it came out.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aR_ChRiS:
Or you can flash your phone with the generic 2.1 rom first and wait for the update through SEUS.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GravvyTrain:
so they say end of Q2 or beginning of Q3....wuddeya know its already mid way through Q3 and no GINGERBREAD!

i HATE corporations..bunch of liars and thieves. sure they market themselves as customer pleasers but they do everything BUT that!!:mad::eek::cool:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
Except it's still Q2 right now... :D

End of Q2 is June 30, so we still have a couple months.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GravvyTrain:
yea your right but I though when they said Q2/Q3 it meant US fiscal year
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unknown13x:
Since when did they EVER mean US fiscal year, or any company to even USE US fiscal year for announcements?

I've already stated in another post that end of June is when the update is scheduled
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GravvyTrain:
excuse my ignorance, I just thought I would explain myself..
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lestet:
Wed sony hope to fulfill that promise and provide the date that disclosed
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iceman0828:
New Update: Gingerbread will be out on august..

blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/06/20/update-on-gingerbread-for-xperia%E2%84%A2-x10/
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vinibali:
i cant wait anymore, there was many promise to the early Q3...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
Beginning of Q3 ends August 15th, so don't stress.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osx67:
No 16M colours, no unlocked bootloader and no multitouch; just a Gingerbread!!!! shi...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gueszman:
Official GB 2.3.3

Official GB 2.3.3 video... looks smooth and we will get original cam app ;)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gueszman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfEOU8juGec&feature=player_embedded
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alecsmaf:
Android 2.3 to my x10

Now the world is a better place!Burn in hell Galaxy S2 i am keeping me Sony
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lion3494:
Yes people we did it. Our petitions have worked. Sony does care. I got my faith back in them. Of course AT&T owners will have to flash the phone to gingerbread from the global update but who cares. Were finally getting it

Woo hoo.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lion3494:
Dang it man your right the bootloadet will be harder to crack. Well of course we can still root
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dave2:
I read this on engadget just now. Unbelievable! Im impressed they decided to listen, we all new our phone could handle at least 2.2
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pcfanboy142:
****.

Just when my usb connector dies on me, and i switch the phone for an iPhone 3gs.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b3yond:
Yes it's true will get gingerbread and not just that but no dem..yayyy
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aarshams:
Well At least right step in right direction, they have listened to all of us but plz don't give us delays
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Farhang:
I just exploded in my pants. :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _raz_:
Ditto! 'cept it'll be the Nexus One for now.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] naveen_reloaded:
:D

PM me too ,if it can be rooted and get atleast 1000+ in quadrant...:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acmaaction:
Few days they will release the Xperia arc. How can this move is a trick? because of their revenue?:eek:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoPDemon:
wow damn. It seems like sony knew we were angry at 2.1 and sony software. Now they want to regain our faith for their future releases.

If only I liked xperia buttons vs other android buttons :(
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunalgahlot:
what do they mean by DRM will be removed????

something related to bootloader???

and if bootloader is cracked apart from 65 million colors and 60 fps what else can we achieve?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ooidort:
Whoa, unexpected. SE just might redeem itself with this.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohsentz:
+1 . Me to. :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Good news guys. X10 on 2.3.3 will rock ,Too bad i sold my X10 :(
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wing_zero8556:
Wow this surprised me. Seems like they ARE listening to us.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fershox:
Amazing News!!!

To bad for the ppl like some of my friends that trade a x10 for a SGS haha now I'm going to tell the good news plus grab some beers its Friday! Les celebrate

Now the price for a second hand x10 its going go get a lil high
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Byrana:
I bet ya we will loose root as soon as 2.3 hits X10...nice way to close some holes and exploits.

We will see what this will bring. I guess staying with xda and custom kernel done by devs will help you stay on the sunny side :)

Devs here are more reliable than sony and they even give explanations :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rubin85:
nice to hear good news about ours X10 :) that's a big step by SE, well done guys

but they didn't say when they gonna relase the upgrade or I missed something ? ;>
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LJE:
SE aint doing this for us... they didnt listen to us..

They have poor sales in line and they realized their once loyal customers have caught on to the fact that their statements that "multitouch-16mil colours and gb" isn't possible, are a load of BS...

They are doing this so the sheeple say... yeaaa.... SE FTW... I knew they loved me..

XDA devs should get a pay rise... The work done 2 months after the offical SE GB release date will be 10X better.... this statement by SE just made me get the paypal acc up
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ultimaDC:
nice! i love you now agaiin SE! i can finally say again after my t610 and p990i that i have returned to become an SE fanboy. lol, just one more request though, just open up the bootloader!

also to xda and their amazing devs who developed such custom roms!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kafej666:
Can I go back to the 2.1 version if I am not happy with the upgrade?

No – our upgrade solutions do not support downgrading.

This one is strange ... I think that They want mess with secure to lock Us again, so i dont want this update :P This is strange. Dev`s bypass bootloader and few days later SE pop up with this ... hmm ...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ooidort:
"DRM keys for protected content on your phone will be lost in the upgrade process."

You people thinking what I'm thinking...?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwer23:
I think you're thinking wrong ;) This statement refers to DRM protected audio/video files. if you bought them on 2.1 they won't work after the update.

so no unlocked bootloader, sorry.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ooidort:
Haha, yeah I suppose. Would be cool though.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saltorio:
This is good news indeed. Late, but good nonetheless. I'm glad to see SE is starting (slowly) to learn to listen to their customers.

They still have a looong way to go to win back my trust enough to ever buy another SE device, but it's a step in the right direction.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rubin85:
probably that's why they relase 2.3.3 or cracking bootloader on 2.3.3 is more harder than on x10 2.1 but that's only what i think

will see in a future how this is gonna be
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentJBM:
I reported here that SE Brazil leaked this information and then retracted it a couple months ago. SE Brazil said that it was scheduled for November 2011. After the new devices have a while to make some sales.

Also doesn't "no DRM protection" mean no bootloader? EDIT: Just read that it doesn't mean that. :( Oh well, as long as it can be rooted and gingerbread I don't care about custom ROMs.

All the haters make me laugh. We got what we wanted, and many of you felt entitled to, but that's still not enough. This is exactly what I said would happen. Some people won't be satisfied no matter what.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImS0Raw:
Im going to cry really!!!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpothi:
Wow great news indeed! But I will still be buying the ARC!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PoTi_96:
I think they took one of our custom ROMs and modified it to their own

Cause we know SE said there won't be any update...

Or it's fake...

Or the next project to stop us
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunalgahlot:
ME TOO,But i can't find a way to sell off my 2 month old SEX X10,this is my 2nd X10 :cool:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiefy009:
As the 2.3.3 update is for trade kits only, will we be able to change our build prop so we can trick seus into thinking our phones are trade kits ?