yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
So basically all I need to do is...

adb install blahblahblah.apk

... and then all should be good?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] malfuncion:
Has anyone tried the RageInTheCage method of rooting? I know most people here want batch file/oneclick, but I dont have the update to test it or try it out. I linked to a walkthrough..

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/re...08-multiple-phones-root-them-unroot-them.html
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bsp120167:
I am puzzled. I downloaded the update last night and was expecting to lose root and side-loading but did not lose anything. I can download from Amazon App Market still have Adfree and superuser permission.

I orginally rooted using the superoneclick method. How did everyone else here root? Maybe if you rooted with superoneclick before you install the update you will keep root.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] exume:
I don't have the update but from what I could gather, the superuser app doesn't get removed but it can't give permissions to anything either.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rjohnstone:
The update kills root access, not side loading.

If you still have root, your update most likely failed.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
AT&T has already stated the HSUPA problem will be resolved in April.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
sorry double post
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
Yes
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bsp120167:
I have checked and it says the update took and it was successful. And I still have root. I will try to post some screen shots

UPDATE: I was wrong on still having root. I guess AdBlock is still working with the old host files but I cannot use any other root required apps. Hopefully someone will find a solution :-(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] phobos512:
No, they have not. People have been misinterpreting what that post said. It said NOTHING about HSUPA. It only stated that they were releasing updates for the Inspire and Atrix in April. It said nothing about the content.

The separate FCC filing indicated that the Inspire was go for HSUPA. NOTHING has been said about the Atrix yet. When an FCC update is filed for the Atrix, THEN HSUPA will be coming.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
Are there ANY sideloading fixes for those of us on the update? Would love to install Amazon App Store via ADB install... but that still won't let us install apps from that market or at least I don't think it will. I'm at work and can test when I get home but doubt it would work. Any suggestions for sideloading or getting Amazon App Store to work besides ADB install?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ItsLunchBOX:
hmm...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/25/atandt-says-atrix-4g-inspire-4g-will-have-hsupa-enabled-in-april/

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20047264-251.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Crave

Looks like AT&T confirmed to CNET it will be fixed in April.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] darkamikaze:
would rageagainstthecage work ?anyone tried?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
The direct words have not been used yet at the same time, you can interpret such. Plus BGR already has confirmed with AT&T that it will happen in April.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] captaincanada84:
After running the update install im still able to download and install apps from the amazon app store.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bsp120167:
Just tried and did not work. Just hangs
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Magic_Bunny:
Actually they did. HSUPA us going to be enabled in April, you need to learn how to read.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] secretlevel:
The FCC approval for the Atrix included HSUPA since day one. You can read the documents yourself.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] crnkoj:
why did this become a hsup update thread instead of being a root thread ...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
Because people tend to go off on a tangent and forget what the real reason the thread was for... that being said, let's get back on track here. Hopefully someone is close to rooting this update. Unfortunately designgears is no longer with us.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidojusto:
There might be some light in the end fo the tunnel ;)

_wickedDROID_ Jason Keomany

The new update for the #Motorola #Atrix fixes the exploit for root. Any devs care to help root the new update? #android

PaulOBrien Paul O'Brien

The idea of a qHD screen for my next device appeals... Atrix or... ?

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@_wickedDROID_

Jason Keomany

@PaulOBrien Go Atrix and help us root the newest update... ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] G-Man.:
This thread should not even be here. This update is protected by a Non Dislosure Agreement with Motorola. XDA can get in trouble for letting this thread stay here.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] malfuncion:
thats what its sposed to do. on the hang you task kill the emulator, then reload it and you have a temp root to continue on running the RITC. I think you gave up prematurely..

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/re...08-multiple-phones-root-them-unroot-them.html
[Atrix 4G Android Development] phobos512:
If you follow the link to the source C Net quoted you'll see exactly what I was taking about.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cegna09:
rage against the cage does not appear to work. and it makes sense since it appears it was written for arm hardware.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] MisterKrispy:
What are you smoking? This update was not protected by an NDA and even if it were there is no way XDA can get in trouble for having a discussion on rooting/modding/hacking anything no matter where it came from. IF they were hosting proprietary software or files they would get a C&D but this is simply a discussion.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] benem3000:
+1 Amen. We need to get on topic. I think our best bet is either finding a new exploit. If it were possible to say... include new updates in a custom rom like Gingerblur or something (which it is probably not) excluding the psneuter update (which we still need to find what it is) then we may want to try that.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] buddmann31:
+1
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AstainHellbring:
Uhm Tegra 2 is still arm
[Atrix 4G Android Development] reddog:
Root access on 4.1.57 update

So I see that the root has been temporarily disabled on 4.1.57. But what does this version/update offer as a fix or new functions.

Non-developer types such as I can wait until the aces get it figured out...unless this 4.1.57 is the cure all for our phones.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] barry99705:
Welcome and thank you for agreeing to participate in our pre-release* for the AT&T MOTOROLA ATRIX 4G.

As part of your acceptance into this trial you've agreed not to distribute the software or any information(emails, comments in private areas, private messages.) received in this trial to the greater public, including public areas of our forums and other independent communities such as Facebook or Twitter. All participation will occur in a private area of Motorola Owners' Forum. In the next day you will receive a pop-up message on your phone that will mark the beginning of the software pre-release test.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] drock212:
From what people have reported the update fixes issues that are very small like fingerprint scanner and wifi I think nothing big at all though
[Atrix 4G Android Development] reddog:
Ok..so it is not worth it..my scanner works..phone is stable..how do I block this upgrade..
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dmdmd:
I don't think that's very binding, but just in case, I wrote a similar one that I will be holding moto to: "moto, by selling me this phone, you have hereby agreed that you blow goats, and that I have proof of this. Furthermore, you agree that all future press releases will begin by stating this highly accurate description of your company."

:)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] diedemus:
I don't see how its moto's fault that you have buyers remorse, research your purchases better.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] drock212:
It's a beta update unless you signed up for the beta testing and were selected you will not get it
[Atrix 4G Android Development] diedemus:
Its up on the internets, and its easy to flash
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dmdmd:
How does one research data connectivity loss and other bugs on a new phone...is that listed on the specs somewhere? Lighten up, Francis. :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Exador:
So basically this update doesn't fix anything it just locks the phone down tighter. I'm really starting to dislike Motorola, if they spent half as much time trying to improve their phones as they do locking them down maybe people would actually buy them. That company is being run by morons, they deserve to go under. I'm talking about you Sanjaay Jay (Bobby Jindal lookalike) you idiot, pull your head out of your ass before you break this company.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] diedemus:
If you didn't buy it at release it was on here the same/next day. If you did buy it at release, you knew it was new hardware and should have expected bugs here and there.

Early adopters should know what to expect at this point, or do you still believe in the Santa and the Easter Bunny too?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
People seem to think it locks the phone down further, it doesn't. Whenever you make changes to software openings that were exploited in the past were bound to be patched for security purposes, sometimes intentional sometimes not.

The fact that after the upgrade I still can install nonmarket apps (directly on the phone from the initial root) and I still have my APN's that I unlocked still unlocked tells me Moto didn't intend this update to purposely lock down the phone. Don't be ignorant about what a company does when they release updates. We make modifications to a software based off vulnerabilities that they have in their devices, in order to protect the user vulnerabilities can't fully stay open forever.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dmdmd:
No, but I do think that although I am aware of the risks involved in buying new tech, that doesn't make it right. I think that particularly with hardware/tech, consumers (myself included) have become beta testers and have accepted this. I think that it's unfortunate. I think that at some point we have to respond to companies who do this...for me, for now, that might just consist of a few remarks making fun of these companies while referencing old movies, for others on xda, it has meant starting petitions. I applaud them. I'm not sure what you have to gain by taking offense to these things.

If you accept this treatment from companies, that's fine, but why would you have a problem with other people calling out this poor behavior?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
It isn't that I have problem with calling out poor behaviour, I'm one to constantly laud Sony for releasing updates that do nothing but block such but this update I can say has actually resolved many issues for me. My issue is spreading misinformation and calling out a company for doing something that based off the information we have isn't an active attempt to fix such. When Google released Android 2.2 and the root was broken on N1's did you laud them for such? If you did, then feel free to laud them, just don't spread misinformation as to the goal of the update. State you are pissed about the update breaking root, just don't state that they are actively trying to prevent rooting, if they were we would have updates released weekly and there wouldn't be a beta test, they would act much more like Sony.

Either way this thread is way off topic at this point, rather than actively try to get root on 4.1.57 this thread has become a bashing of Motorola for "actively removing root" and more a petition which isn't what the development board is for. If you want to complain about such, go to the General forum and do such, not Development, it takes away from what the forum is actually for.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dmdmd:
I agree this has gotten off topic, by I don't think I did any of the things you have accused me of in your post...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AODfan:
Should I return the Atrix now?

Well I got the Atrix about a week or so ago and I have really been reading into this phone, after finding out that it was successfully rooted I was excited even more, but then seeing as Moto/AT&T is persistent to keeping it locked down, should I just suck it up and keep it or return it and wait til my contract runs out and move to Verizon?

I mean I kinda like the phone as is and have not had any problems, but I just don't like the fact that, at will, they can limit me to what I want to do yo my phone. If I want to use a different ROM I should be able to.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sewerbeing:
This has been stated before in this thread and elsewhere but rooting exploits a security flaw. A company would be stupid not to fix a security flaw that has been found and discovered. Some people use that flaw for good (ie rooting) but what if someone exploits it to compromise your personal info? I am willing to bet that most people do not root their phone and therefor this security issue is an actual flaw for them. You can gripe that smart phones try to keep the user from doing everything but no one company is alone in that. I'm sure shortly after this update goes into the wild (which it has not) someone will figure out how to root it and life goes back to normal.

Also user people have reported that sideloading still works so clearly Motorola isn't locking the phone down for the fun of it but are doing it to fix a security problem.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Yes, and that is the huge argument that is discussed world wide and by a whole lot of people.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] madquack:
OKay, so I sat here and waited to download the update only to have it fail. After it restarts and the little progress gauge shows up and then goes to the hazard sign with the little green android in front of it. It did it 3 time in a row, both on a rooted/unrooted phone. I don't get it, I guess I will just wait for the official update.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] wicked_beav:
Flash the SBF for 1.26 and then use aroot... then attempt the update and you should be golden.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
Im not sure if this is against XDA rules and Im sorry if it is but can someone PM a link to the update.zip ?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] KryptosXLayer2:
Search.....

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12333986&postcount=1
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
If you looked at the post I quoted.....it wasn't yours. You took offence to a post that didn't even mention you.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] JD914:
If this update didn't work then the official update wont work for you either. If you were rooted make sure you restore any system files you removed or froze.

The update worked flawless for me after I unrooted my device and reinstalled the original Swype system files that came with it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
thanks broski
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
In news about root, I decided to try out some one click rooting options out there. I'm not sure what exploit z4root uses but when I ran it, there was notification that it was running an exploit to gain root, then tried to use SU to actually do such. The program crashed, then wouldn't reopen until I rebooted but after I rebooted I saw a new option there "unroot" which wasn't there before so it had success partially. This might be a good avenue to explore as to such.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
Try loading TiBU
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
TiBu was installed already, didn't succeed, just ran aroot and no success. It's a possible step in the right direction, I suspect that the z4root exploit still may exist in the Atrix, just z4root fails running on the atrix when pushing the files needed.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
It Might have not installed, like DGs script it might not show any errors to the end user. It could be failing to push the files but still show a success message to the user.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
But it's not showing success, but it does move to the point of actually aquiring root rights, unfortunately I don't have access to the source code to see.

EDIT: looks like it is using RageAgainstTheCage the false "success" I guess I was seeing was the program recognising that the files were pushed to the device, not installed.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neer2005:
Looks like we have to find another lead
[Atrix 4G Android Development] KefkaticFanatic:
The survey they emailed me asks if you had rooted your Atrix before ^^
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
Yes they did, that's most likely because of the failed updates/bricking to see who had success with what has been done. At least they are aware of the modding community behind it.

EDIT: towards the end of the survey they actually ask about the version of software and update capabilities. Tells me they want to make sure anyone can do it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] G-Man.:
Actually, smartass, IT IS protected by an NDA - i would know being part of the test group for the update. Maybe you should do a little research before opening your mouth.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] madquack:
Yeah I didn't understand why it didn't work even when unrooted but it seemed to work fine. Somehow someway something got messed up with my frameres apk I guess. I used sbf to restore it and it seemed to work fine. But sure beats the heck out of me as to how it got messed up in the first place.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Jim_R:
Seems to me that you are using effect to explain cause. Because the result of flashing over a rooted phone does not disrupt some of the root unlocking, you assume that it wasn't Moto's intention to lock down the phone. Could be that their tests showed that the update couldn't be flashed over a rooted phone - as many here have found. Let me ask you, if you had flashed to stock and then loaded the update, would you still be able to root, or even sideload? Given the update, the built in nagging feature of the OTA update, and Moto's recent flurry of C&D letters to anyone sharing a ROM, I'm thinking Moto's intentions were indeed to lock down android on this device - if only to protect sales of docking accessories.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
My phone was rooted and took the update perfectly. It isn't Rooting that caused the issue with failure to update, it was modification of Webtop and the like. I didn't use aroot at all, and updated fine. I had used SuperOneClick and my device was rooted when I ran the update. You misread the reports if you think the nagging feature of the OTA is meant to lock it down, it was built into the software from the beginning. If people registered to sign up for the Beta update then logically they would be reminded to update if they press "remind me later" you also could download it and delete the update from your device. Misinformation is a PITA especially when wielded by people who make changes to their device not knowing what they will do.

Like I said I'd wager that most of the people with failed updates who had rooted also had a mod to system files, even if it was just updating swype on their device, or rocking Adeo. Those small things can cause it to fail. Moto also had people with failed updates who hadn't even rooted their device. Rooting isn't the issue there and like I said from the survey they are collecting data to see which worked fine, they even acknowledged the leaked SBF in the survey. This is clearly going off topic once more about this, if you want PM me and I'll further explain such either on IRC or PM.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] MisterKrispy:
Ha! There is a big difference between an NDA and a "click to accept".
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ririal:
...no? By applying to the beta and downloading and installing the update, you are agreeing to the NDA. "Click to accept," as you put it, in this case is a legally binding contract, and even explicitly states as such. Please think before you speak.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sublimejosh2000:
Gingerbread

Am I the only one that realizes that this update is most likely a precursor to a Gingerbread update. Most of the time a system update comes out a few weeks before a major OS update. es, not many things seem to be fixed in this update, but behind the scenes, I bet a lot of things are fixed to make room for some gingerbread cheer... Just food for thought, coming from a dissapointed Backflip owner who got a BS update last year and was pissed off, but finally recieved a Eclair update later... although.. much later
[Atrix 4G Android Development] LancerV:
Two Words:Plausible deniability
[Atrix 4G Android Development] MisterKrispy:
+1

I do think before I speak. I've been at this game for quite a while, and I know what an NDA looks like. Have you ever really signed one? Or have you agreed to a lot of "terms and conditions"?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] LancerV:
I would be curious to see if their has ever been even a court case over a click to accept that has been ruled in the Plaintiffs favor.

I mean if your dumb and Motorola does try to sue you and you say yes I clicked the button etc than its your own fault for not expressing your fifth amendment right. Play stupid and win is usually how it goes, also with computers make sure its locked down with TrueCrypt bootloader with a strong 25+ password and you wont ever have to worry about 99% of the things, since its against your fifth amendment also.

Heres a good website I use to tell how strong a password is http://howsecureismypassword.net/ my result was"It would take

About a tredecillion years

for a desktop PC to crack your password"
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Paschalis:
maybe a question already answered..

if someone rooted his phone with the old version, he cant upgrade to the new one?

or just with the new version, rooting is not possible yet?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Gr8Danes:
You supposedly can't root the update. The older versions you can.

You should be able to upgrade if you haven't heavily modded (after the update is available)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Jim_R:
All that's available with the 4.1.57.update is sideloading - if you previously rooted your phone in 4.1.26, and enabled it. See this thread for details:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1009269

Now that this is public knowledge, who knows if this 'loophole' will be closed with the release of 4.1.75_2 tomorrow. (I'm guessing no.) Still, I wish AT&T would relent and allow sideloading on the ATRIX as Bell Canada does.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] franciscojavierleon:
can anyone that has updated to 4.1.57 try to root using z4root 1.30?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
I did, it doesn't work as stated in my edit. It runs RageAgainstTheCage exploit which is known to not work on 4.1.57
[Atrix 4G Android Development] spyz88:
Does anyone have a link to the 1.5.7 update? Thanks
[Atrix 4G Android Development] drock212:
I don't know if anyone is hosting it but I have the file.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] naturefreak85:
Try just checking for updates it will be launched either today or tomorrow.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stangy:
Given that this is such a minor update I'm wondering if its even worth publishing a root exploit for it (if we can find one). It may be worth waiting for GB or at least the Upload Speed/Voice Quality fixes. Motorola is just going to close the exploit in the next release.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dvigue:
its out as of now...

http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/28/motorola-atrix-4g-4-1-57-update-available-no-att-hsupa-support-yet/
[Atrix 4G Android Development] spyz88:
Its says its been released but its not showing up under system updates. Hoping someone had a link so I can do it manually.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] diedemus:
If you installed the beta update it will not show up when you check for system updates, the version is the same
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shawnbuck:
What is blocked in the update?

Is it the scripts, or the exploits that were fixed?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] LancerV:
Version is not the same