yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt General] distortedloop:
Your posts aren't very informative for someone trying to compare.

What apps are you running background, which services (sync, location, etc), which radios on (wifi sleep policy, BT on, 4G/3G area, etc), screen brightness settings? Even the app will have an impact on draw, since keeping a log file will cause some juice drain each time the log is written, so update interval is probably necessary for the discussion to be meaningful.

You're getting your numbers from the log and when the phone is actually truly idle (ie. untouched, screen off) for a while?

Not criticizing at all, but these kind of discussions can end up just frustrating folks because of ambiguities...kind of like the posts where someone says (I get 5 days on my battery with "moderate use", and it turns out that guy's idea of "moderate use" means it sits untouched all day except a couple of minutes browsing).

I just installed the current widget out of curiosity, so not much data to go on, but with the screen on 50% brigthness, wifi on, BT on, sync on, several apps having been opened I saw about 140mah. Turned the brightness down to minimum and it dropped to 76, then 45. Let the phone idle scree off for a few minutes, and it was showing 32 when I first turned it back on.

My log shows that during the idle period for a couple of minutes, the phone was drawing between 30 and 40 each pull (every ten seconds).
[Thunderbolt General] kierandill:
A lolcatz haz rited yor subjekt...
[Thunderbolt General] ddarvish:
Ill post a copy of my Log later on. Right now the results wouldnt be fair because i am at my parents place and their house is made of some material where you go from 3 to 0 bars of reception when you walk in the door. But usually my general setup is 3g/4g on wifi off, BT on but not connected to anything, GPS on but not actively lookin for sataillites, and then a bunch of my regular apps. I mean let me put it like this. in my first post i discuss the difference i have seen in current consumption between the TB and my OG droid. The phones are set up EXACTLY the same with the same programs running in the background. The only difference is the TB has that extra 4G radio. I live in West LA so generally the coverage should be 100% 3g/4g. anyhow ill get a copy of the log.
[Thunderbolt General] jacobk:
my currentwidget is almost always above 100mA and ive got 4g off, wifi off, gps off, BT off, no apps running etc. very frustrating to see this phone die in 6 hours no matter what
[Thunderbolt General] 1454:
This has been my experience also. my history from last night showed a peak of about 400mah discharge and a min of about 120 mah discharge. Not sure what is going on.
[Thunderbolt General] 1454:
I have wifi off, bt off, gps off(using vzw location services though), with words with friends, double twist, battery booster, goog voice, lookout, bat indicator service, myphonemrules, simple service, craigs checker service, weather toggle widgets, nobars, night time service, battery monitor widget, and swiftkey, the rest are vzw bloatware services or htc processes in the background. Backlight is at about 30-40, and timeout is set to about 1 min. Since the last restart I have gotten as low as -50mah and max is about -350. I can't say what all was running during the night because I changed few things this morn to try and fix my drain, which as seemed to help, but not a lot.

Attached is a copy of my history since 3/24.
[Thunderbolt General] necosino:
Once we are able to undervolt our kernel, our idle usage should drop significantly. Until then, I'm keeping a charger handy and waiting for my eBay batteries to get here, lol.
[Thunderbolt General] 1454:
I have the extended battery, which I can't use with my case of course, if I really need it. But I like having a case on my phone because I shattered the screen on my D2 a week after I got my last one. Not trying to do that with the TB.
[Thunderbolt General] ddarvish:
so to revisit this post a couple months in.. i am on the new GB leak. still idle at 40mA still sucking power like nobodys business.. wtf
[HTC Inspire 4G] niksha:
my phone is rooted and i could go into recovery mode but the screen was black. so i followed the first few steps at this forum to try to install a custom rom and show it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=974789

while i was installing the CoreDroid the phone was installing it in recovery mode and my screen was black so i let it go for 10 min and it rebooted. Then it goes past the htc logo and i see a 1 sec animation then the phone goes back to htc screen and keeps doing this. i then tried to go into the recovery mode and do a factory reset. but once i click on that the screen goes black so i dont know what im doing. Please helppp.Noiw i wish that i had never tried this rooting thing.Back to the tilt2 till i get some help i guess!!
[HTC Inspire 4G] proof2006:
Same problem but im stuck in the bootloader
[HTC Inspire 4G] SNadler:
See the post above "stuck in boot loader" the same solution applies to you.
[G Tablet General] k4el:
I just got my g-tab in (not a w00t purchase, ebay in fact)

I'm reading over scsione889's very awesome guide before I dive in. While I was reading the guide I note that it very specifically instructs the reader to flash from internal memory.

I found this to be rather odd since all my experience with clockwork on my dInc has been flashing from SD. Does anyone have any details on why flashing from internal memory is used in the guide?

Question number two comes from the w00t purchasers warning thread

I checked my stock firmware version after reading this thread and it's 1.0-2736. Why is it necessary to install the OTA before flashing other roms etc? Does it update the kernel? It certainly can't be a radio issue on this tablet =P

I have already installed clockwork at this point and I wanted to ask about this before performing the OTA or just flashing Vegan. Any tips on the OTA thing?

Hepful posts will as always be thanked!
[G Tablet General] k4el:
After investigating a bit it seems like the G tab handles it's own internal memory as an SDcard. This strikes me as odd but may be normal. Will clockwork not detect a "second" SDcard?

More info would be great if anyone has it.
[G Tablet General] pr0cs:
All the devices I've owned has the 'internal' memory labelled as SDCARD, even though it's not actually removable. When flashing roms you will be copying the files over to the internal memory (labelled on the device as sdcard).

Your legitimate sd card is usually labelled as something else. /emmc, etc etc. It will likely depend on the rom/kernal you are using.
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
k4el,

Internal memory is /sdcard. External miniSD card is /sdcard2.

You can flash by putting the appropriate recovery and update.zip files in /sdcard and

booting into recover with power and volume +.

You can also flash by putting the same to files on a miniSD card and putting it in the

slot. Only thing is you have to edit the command file in the recovery folder to change

the location from /SDCARD to /SDCARD2. (You can do that with Notepad, but make

sure when you save it you keep the file name as "command".)

Your USB key shows up in the file manager as "/usbdisk" but it is not usable for booting

or recovering.

I think there is a pretty good sticky on this topic at the beginning the General Forum.

Rev
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Standard recovery can use a microSD for flashing (the instructions are slightly different, as Rev mentioned) but the "safe" version of clockworkmod we use only reads off the internal memory only. Newer versions on cwm can use both, but they is a higher risk of to causing a soft-brick so I personally don't recommend them.
[Android Apps and Games] chinxos203:
why does the default gmail messaging app have the subject and not the sender on top as the main focus (bigger bolder) while the corp sync uses the sender as the bigger bolder on top as email should.. I want my gmail app to show the sender on top of the subject like my corp account. i prefer to use the gmail app because its light rather then dark and i cant adjust my notifications separately for my two gmail accounts. With the messaging app you get one set of notifications for all, so its either all on or all off. i dont want my corp account dinging every time i get an email but i do my my personal to.

are there any apps or tricks you guys have done ?

Atrix 4G - rooted
[Android Apps and Games] bitla:
you can set notification off when using gmail, that's should be it
[Xoom General] ama761156:
Hey guys Im having issues signing in to the YouTube app using gmail. Is anyone else having this issue?

So this worked for me hopefully it work for other people having the same issue

i got it fixed on my xoom. Like you guys it kept telling to add account.

1.remove the google account from device under settings

2.log in to youtube on a pc and add a subscription or a favorite video or something

3. then addthe account back in settings

4. go on youtube you should already be signed in . if your not click on sign in and it will ask you ti choose your account. hope it helps guys!
[Xoom General] bwcorvus:
I had this problem on my evo a few times, make sure your google calender is set to sync...yea I know it doesn't make any sense.

Sent From My Evo
[Xoom General] ama761156:
Everything is set to sync

It says account already exists

there is already a xxxx@gmail.com on this android device
[Xoom General] almostinsane:
Had that same issue as well. No idea how to fix it.
[Xoom General] ama761156:
looks like someone else is having issues http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=06676700599d2845&hl=en
[Xoom General] ama761156:
Added possible fix
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjwarren4dcivics:
G1 Help Help Help G1 says no service when im home but when I'm moving to any other place other than my house I have service what's wrong with my phone cause I used to get perfect service where is the antenna on a g1
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bestofrhcp:
could that there's no signal at your home. ?

go to wireless settings, scroll down to Mobile Network settings, make sure data is enabled, select network operators. let it load while it searched networks. att and tmo pops up, select your network, most likely tmo, and reboot.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
You might have to select the Network in the setting. I had similar problem and I went in to select my network and it gave me signal.

EDIT: Default is uncheck.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] equalsabracket:
So i've flashed and have had various different ROMs over time. The current one (cyanogenmod) has a few problems, namely every so often the buttons on the lock screen disappear (but can still be operated) and dragging down the notifications bit shows the notifications, but no parts of the actual window itself (like the bit you drag or the bit which darkens the background) and to get it back i have to restart, and then the restart/shutdown/other menu doesn't show up so i have to guess where the buttons are to do it. Nightmare.

Anyway, so I need suggestions. This is what i want:

- Good battery life. Was using a ROM before this which killed my battery in about a day of not using it.

- The basics. I don't want it to be cluttered with HTC Sense or loads of other pointless apps that i don't need.

- Apps2SD, i already have this, but i think ROMs need to support it for it to work, or something? (not technically minded)

- Little-no bugs.

I'm wondering what people would suggest?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] treesurf:
Back when I was running Froyo this was my favorite:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=784689

There are several more recently updated Froyo ROMs, a couple from Elelinux here that get good reviews, or you can head over to Cronos Android and get the popular Froyo ROM over there. I'm currently running Cronos Ginger, and for me it's good and stable.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] iPasta:
Battery: http://www.villainrom.co.uk/vBwiki/index.php/Calibrate_Battery

Roms: www.hrdb.tk. My rom database. I think you'll find the best for you ;)

I'm running Elelinux 6.2.0 RC0 Hero Speedmachine v2 with Launcher pro.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] minty1978:
i would recommend cronos GB too. I get great battery life from it, and its quick.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] aca89:
+1 for Elelinux 6.2.0 RC0 Hero Speedmachine, super fast rom with no bugs, just what you need :). I also got tired of switching new ROMs so I flashed this one.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ltraddical:
And another +1 for elelinux' Elelinux 6.2.0 speedmachine rom.
[HTC Inspire 4G] gmanunited:
Hey just created Gold Card. What are the Contents on the card. Is there any thing specific I should see. Gold Card created Successfully.
[HTC Inspire 4G] M.leonard2:
What is a Gold Card? If you don't mind explaining
[HTC Inspire 4G] leemoss84:
its something you do to your sd card in order to be able to root.
[HTC Inspire 4G] M.leonard2:
O I C . What's the purpose in rooting I did root my Captivate but didn't really find much use.

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[HTC Inspire 4G] leemoss84:
free tethering,you can switch roms,change boot animations and alot of other stuff
[HTC Inspire 4G] M.leonard2:
ok you had my attention at free tethering please direct me to the best root and tethering app. Thanks in advance
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
Control. You control what your phone is able to do, not ATT.

Getting rid of the bloatware, ads, sideloading (amazon app store, anyone?), and of course, as mentioned, custom roms.
[HTC Inspire 4G] leemoss84:
here is the link to bubbys simple one click(its not really one click but its pretty easy)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=961406

let the fun begin
[HTC Inspire 4G] M.leonard2:
Ok if i root do can i unroot im guess rooting puts another but same type of software on your phone. if i used the root you gave me the link to will i still be able to get official updates
[HTC Inspire 4G] homeslice976:
If all you want is free tethering follow this thread (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=960058&highlight=wifi+tether). Keep in mind - free means you don't have to pay the additional fee to ATT, but the data that's used while using wifi hotspot will still count against your data. The link to Bubby's 1 click has already been posted. Here's attn1's original hack kit (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=952352) thread which was the original root method. Bubby's method packs this into a GUI

To the OP:

I don't know if there's a way to confirm whether or not your gold card was created successfully other than attempting to downgrade the ROM. If the downgrade completes, then you created a good gold card.
[HTC Inspire 4G] echoone:
Pretty curious myself. Just starting the research phase as far as rooting goes.
[Vibrant General] iLikeAndroids:
Can someone give me a s.gps.zip Verison 1 not 2 as two does not work as well as one for me.
[Vibrant General] Dan_Brutal:
Go download it. Its in the op of the edt gps fix thread.
[Vibrant General] iLikeAndroids:
Oh i thought that one changed
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
Has anyone else noticed that these forums here are actually extremely popular? I never though about it and I took the time to compare the views with other forums (well really HTC Aria's because I was butting CM7 on it for a noob friend of mine).

Anyways, I never took the views that the different threads were getting into consideration...like the GingerBlur thread Kenneth created is about tied with the Cyanogenmod thread for the Aria...

This amazes me and I'm wondering why there isn't more stuff happening for the Atrix...the problem I think is that the actual number devs working on this phone compared to the number of people following the devs is completely out of proportion, kind of like 1 volunteer feeding 1,000,000 hobos in New York. I'm guessing it has to do with the difficulty of working with this crazy locked down phone. And like DG, I'm pretty sure he got frustrated to how locked down it was he just quit...I really hope the few devs try hard to hang in here...and I hope more come!
[Atrix 4G General] Deleted member 2488575:
I really hope the devs come back to this phone. It has a lot of untapped potential.

Please developers stay with us.
[Atrix 4G General] paravorheim:
more crypto

The problem isn't that we don't have enough devs, it's just that many of these devs aren't as experienced in crypto as they'd like, which is kind of needed to crack the bootloader. That's a complaint I've seen the devs post about many times on the threads on development. So, if the bootloader were to get cracked, I'm sure we'd see a huge influx in devs.
[Thunderbolt General] mitchell4500:
Iv made extra sure to keep it safe and iv not been using screen protector as I find them annoying. Today I realized I had 2 tiny little scratches in my beloved screen. Anyone know and ideas how I could possibly remove them?

Please spare me the "omg u should gots screen protectioned"
[Thunderbolt General] mitchell4500:
On another note do you think getting a screen protectors now could help make it less noticeable, maybe the sticky could fill it in.
[Thunderbolt General] HorsexD:
ClearTouch Crystal at BoxWave.com Make SUPER Clear Screen Protectors. They Arent very noticable and they say they are 99% Clear. Hard to tell you have one on. Reviews seem good too. just google it. likes 12$ a Protector, maybe cheaper if you find some kind of discount code. :D
[Thunderbolt General] Silvus:
a "fix" for scratches

I suggest you grab the zagg screen protector. it should make the scratches invisible. they are totally awesome for protecting the screen. I took a fork to my wifes blackberry as a show, and thought i had went to far when I heard a "screech," but after pulling off the protector the screen was flawless. It also doesnt use "sticky stuff" so when you pull it off "i used mine on my blackberry for 2 years" the screen is clean and not sticky.

The only con is the price, $20, but i love my bolt like a newborn, its totaly worth it to me.
[Thunderbolt General] Aerogriff:
Agreed. The zagg screen protectors are amazing.
[Thunderbolt General] :
I honestly would not try this on my phone, I would rather live with the scratches, but if you want to try something I would recommend mr clean magic eraser which is basically wettable micro sand paper. This could possibly damage your touchscreen functionality though, I have no idea. I have no clue what else you'd possibly try.
[Thunderbolt General] :
id recommend trying a screen protector though, instead, of course.
[Thunderbolt General] GrdLock:
I might be looking into a screen protector as well. I went a year and a half without one on my Eris, and didn't get a single scratch on the screen. I've had the Thunderbolt a week, and I just yesterday noticed two damn scratches on the screen. No clue how they even got there, I've been super careful with the damn phone!

I've read lots of mixed reviews about Zagg screens. I looked up reviews on that CrystalTouch screen though, and could only find positives. I think I'll try that one.
[Thunderbolt General] distortedloop:
I thought I had a scratch on mine, but it went away after some gentle buffing of the screen with a cloth.

I haven't used it, but I've seen some tv adverts for some liquid eye-glass cleaner that supposedly fills in scratches. I'd meant to grab some a few years ago to see if it would fill in a scratch on my iPhone, but I don't have that one any more, so no way to test it out personally. I don't remember the name, but Google should find it for you.

There is something about the Thunderbolt screen that makes it feel scratch-able; I'm running it naked for now, and no scratches, but I'm a bit nervous about it.

I used the Zagg on my original iPhone. I don't think anything will protect it better, but some people have a tough time getting past the "orange peel" feel to it. I got used to it quickly, though.
[Thunderbolt General] chocoyo00:
I know how you feel, I found a a tiny scratch on mine this week too. I got the Zagg screen protector to cover it, but honestly, I hated it so i took it off...I missed the shine and bare feeling of the screen.. I used some toothpaste with whitening with a cue tip and it sort of made it better.. I'm kind of over it after rooting my phone and tweaking it, just try to enjoy it...my .2 cents.
[Thunderbolt General] mitchell4500:
I went to the mall and there was a Zagg stand. I asked how much and they told me $30. Wow. For a piece of plastic. I dont care how good it is. I went to the verizon kiosk and picked up a screen protector pack for $3. It kinda helped but i can still see it. :\
[Nook Color Accessories] DiscoPh3v3r:
I just got my Xoom bluetooth keyboard in today for my nook, and I got to say... I couldn't be happier :D

Typing on this thing is so easy as it is a full size keyboard. The keys are nice and big, but not to big but just the right size. They have a nice spacing and the whole keyboard just seems to flow and it let's your fingerrs move fast across the keys.

It does have it down sides such as: not all the keys seem to work :( most do without a problem but caps lock does not work, as does the Tab button. Arrow keys work, but they seem to be swithed, the left arrow goes up, the right arrow down, the up arrow left, and the down arrow, right. I assume these keys work on a computer that can make use of a bluetooth keyboard but seeing as my computer does not have such functionailty, I cannot test it out.

Around the edges there is a glossy finish which leads to mucho fingerprints. The keys are matte, so the only time they ever seem to get nasty is when you are really greassy, or you are sweaty.

All in all, I'd have to give this keyboard an 8/10 It would get a 7, but seeing as how I got it from wal-mart for around $10-20 cheaper, it makes it a great deal :)

P.S. It's not AS sexy as the pictures make it look :/ but its very slim and is still pretty sexy in person

P.S.S The nook box makes a great "dock" when you are at a table at the library ;)

P.S.S.S I just took a typing test on my nook and got 58 words per minute, which is just a little slower than my normal typing speed of 65 on my computers keyboard :D

LOOK FOR PICS BELOW :D

*Sorry if my grammer and punction are off, I did type this all from the keyboard and will edit it when I can get home.
[Nook Color Accessories] britoso:
Thanks for letting us know, it sure does look cool

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-XOOM-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Review_id2668
[Nook Color Accessories] altimax98:
Once HC is released then it will work with the caps and tab buttons

Sent from one of those missing Droids
[Nook Color Accessories] DiscoPh3v3r:
Ahhh that does make sense... And I guess that also means if I was using the stock music player the music keys would work. I am using phirmod 5.1 and the music keys don't work, the menu key doesn't work, and the keyboard seems to disconnect... kinda a lot. And I wishI could fix the key mappings on the dpad :( but I'll get used to it I assume
[Nook Color Accessories] jinp6301:
What app did you use to check your APM?
[Nook Color Accessories] DiscoPh3v3r:
I didn't use an app, there is a website called 10speedyfingers, or something, that will let you check you wpm online. Just Google it and you should find it :)
[Nook Color Accessories] tj!2k7:
@DiscoPh3v3r: can you post a photo of nook and keyboard together for size comparison? Thanks.
[Nook Color Accessories] JLCollier2005:
you beat me on a review by one day! I also got it from wal-mart ship-to-store (expecting to get a text from them any minute saying it's there) and was surprised at the price difference even over Amazon! I figured man this is MADE for android, why not get it? the first BT keyboard I bought I had to take back (from Frys) bcuz not only was it broken, but also it was so small I don't know how they can consider it a full sized keyboard.

I'll be getting mine, as I said, today or tomorrow, so I'll write my thoughts on here as well (as long as the OP doesn't mind).

Quick question, does it come with a case or anything to protect it? If not, I'll be looking for something to do so since I usually carry my nook and such in my backpack...