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[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
o.m.g.

Dude it doesn't work that way on this phone. It is not the G1, z4/visionary/anyonphoneroot does not work, root REQUIRES adb (even with one click).

Fact is, you can't root this phone, temp or perm, one click or not, without ad.

If you can find a way, please do. We are awaiting your one click, root that does not use adb, and is not dangerous.

fyi one click has been released, hours before your post.

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[Thunderbolt Android Development] ShanDestromp:
I'm going to cut out all your attacks, because you've clearly missed my point in its entirety and decided to get defensive.

I brought the GPL in because like it or not, you don't have the right to say who can and cannot release anything regarding "one click" roots UNLESS you yourself made an essential piece of the current rooting method, that is in its entirety your own. To make an analogy, you can't patent (and thus control the distribution) to a Toyota Carolla, simply because you assembled the whole thing from spare parts. If you were to completely design and fabricate a motor vehicle without using off-the-shelf parts you WOULD have that right.

There is nothing personal in my view of this against you, I don't hold any grudges against anyone; but its the mentality here that irritates me, and it just happens that you're the one that posted it:

I understand you want people to learn; I really do. I've done enough work with computers that I too get really irritated at people who demand answers to questions answered much faster by doing a quick search. I also understand why you want to avoid screw ups because of a poorly made one click. HOWEVER, just because you WANT people to get them cleared through you first; does not mean they HAVE to or that you have a right to demand that they do.

And thus you've found the wonder of open source software. Sometimes crap gets released. But guess what? Every one of us here are supposed to be adults, or at the very least the authorized users of our phones; which means that if we screw something up, or use something that screws up; its our own damn fault.

The whole purpose of OSS is to allow freedom of ideas and development. I don't know how old you are, or what your experience with OSS outside of Android phones are; but I personally have seen PLENTY of OSS software that started out as utter crap, turn into wonderful software packages. Maybe you're old enough to remember KDE2 vs KDE4, or how about pre v1 Mozilla vs modern versions of Firefox.

I'm not some OSS nutter; I've got no problem with closed source or proprietary software; just a problem with others trying to control things they have no right to.

All that having been said, maybe you DO hold software rights related to some piece of the current rooting method. If so I've seen nothing indicating so, nor anything indicating that any part of the rooting method is not OSS; however if you DO, then you have my apologies, as you would indeed have control over distribution of that specific piece. You still would not be able to prevent distribution of any one click that were released provided they simply had users download your piece separately.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
You are missing the point, and obviously did not read anything. This will be my last time wasting time with you until then.

I never said THEY CANT release, I asked them not to, until we had a safer way and time to check it out. Big difference. I stopped one from going out today that would of more or less ruined phones until someone fixed them.

Fact is, MOST of the one clicks I have seen lately, violate the GPL, why don't you go after them, or hell even better we could really use you to go after HTC (in all seriousness).
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bmcclure937:
I agree!! If anyone is in violation of GPL license it is HTC.

And once we have that kernel source in the hands of the community amazing things will happen!!

Once the custom kernels start flying you will see the TB doing crazy things. I can only imagine 2GHz speeds or insanely efficient battery life (to name a few)!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonathanphx1:
ShanDestromp says "And thus you've found the wonder of open source software. Sometimes crap gets released. But guess what? Every one of us here are supposed to be adults, or at the very least the authorized users of our phones; which means that if we screw something up, or use something that screws up; its our own damn fault. "

This has got to be the stupidest statement I have read in a long time, I can guarantee, If you used a 1-click method and it bricked your phone you would be screaming " where's the oversight in this forum, I cant' believe that that mods would allow faulty programming to be posted."

Jcase I for one am glad you are stepping up and doing what needs to be done to prevent a potential $750 brick, thank you sir.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ShanDestromp:
I'm not privy to any private conversations, nor do I read every thread here on XDA, so my general impression, which I'm sure is shared based upon what others have said, was of a more explicit "No you cannot," not a "do you mind if I take a peek first". Furthermore, I did not name any one individual "responsible" for any blockade; I only began to interact with you once you brought yourself into the thread. Beyond that, if you go back to my original post, I explicitly thank the people who made root possible at all.

For starters I don't know much, if anything about them other than they exist. Unless I personally see something that I think is in violation, I assume good faith. I certainly don't seeking violations.

I'm guessing you're referring to the fact that they didn't release the kernel source as expected this week? I'd mentioned it in another thread, though I don't recall which anymore; but from what I recall of GPLv2 developers have 60 days from the "official" binary release to provide source. To expand on that, HTC has 60 days from when the phone officially went on sale, to provide upon request the source code to any GPL licensed software, however it is version specific. That is to say 60 days from March 17th to make available the source to the firmware that was on the phone when released (since to the best of my knowledge there have been no other OFFICIAL firmware versions released).

Of course any such source will inherently exclude any third party proprietary software, for example if HTC used a closed-source bluetooth stack (not saying they did, just a hypothetical example). Additionally, there isn't any specific method to release stipulated. If HTC wishes they could mail out copies of the source on 3.5" floppies and still be within the rules; and all this assumes GPLv2 is how Android is licensed. If its v3 then I honestly have no clue if any time provisions exist.

I just want to reiterate, I have no ill-will to you nor anyone else. It appears as though the whole issue stems from miscommunication.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
Ok, ./forgetpast

Now back to HTC. The GPL2 license, which the kernel is under, does

NOT

give them 60days. In fact, they are not given ANY grace period at all. Any grace period, is just gravy to them from the OSS community, and well they take too much gravy with their potatoes.

3.5 floppy is perfectly fine with me, as long as they provide it. There is no grace period for this, they need to make it available upon release of binary. Mailing out floppies media post from taiwan, would be still faster than their current method. And it would be legal (i think).

Android is apache and I could careless about that, I can grab that from AOSP. I want kernel source.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DS36:
Jcase is right i was one of those in the eris forums and it turned in to a mess after the one-click root became available

i learned how to root manually and personally i think its a must to even be on this website.

look at XDA as a place to learn and not a place to cop free ****.

what he is doing only make the community stronger

plus its pretty damn easy if you can read well and follow directions

enjoy

and i can wait for cm7 support and the aosp kernels
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
(I made the one click for the eris:X)

The eris was different beast, different situation
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaywan:
Let's keep this forum on track guys by staying on topic this is to discusses in-rooting let keep it as such. Thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaywan:
Un-rooting
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
Issues were brought up and had to be addressed.

On topic:

I will be posting a full return to stock in the morning, that will return to stock from any version, including higher ones. Just been too busy to upload it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaywan:
If you want i can post i and credit you 100% for it. Just saying it's no Need for two threads for the same topic. That's just extra clutter.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
Thats fine and I need no credit. Just time to upload
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaywan:
u will get the credit and just let me know when your ready.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ericcwhitaker:
Would it be stupid to ask that someone put a step by step guide to restoring to factory (including unrooting) in case of potential return issues?

I know there are some seriously beginner level people here (Such as me, Tbolt is my first Android device.) and it would be incredibly helpful in case we need to do a factory return, etc?

Just my two cents. Feel free to bash me all day long for being stupid. :o
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaywan:
NO ONE IS GONNA BASH YOU. THAT'S NOT HOW WE TREAT PEOPLE HERE. I WILL BE UP SOON!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ericcwhitaker:
Thanks, I'm learning that you guys are cool more and more. Not like some of the iOS pricks I've encountered.

Plus, I'm a little self-depricating. I bash myself. :D

Looking forward to it and thanks man!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nkd:
I am not new to android, but I have never used command line to root phone or anything else. I however feel that new users should stay away from rooting the phone yet. I do however feel the lack of instructions for the Thunderbolt, may be because it is very new. I saw samsung galaxy s devices got step by step for everything, even if it was how to put the damn phone in download mode. I hope the thunderbolt gets more attention and developer love.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Pithism:
so what do i exactly have to do, just download this file, run hboot and start the update and im unrooted?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] thejondude:
After loading this I have s-on but still root access
[Thunderbolt Android Development] thejondude:
is this how its suposta be?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scarin:
Ok fairly new to the whole rooting thing and have yet to root my Tbolt or my prior Nexus1, ( but i gotta get rid of the bloat and senseui) I have spent many hours "rooting" my older windows mobile phones and the Iphone and I know the basic premise is the same. When I used to do the hacks on windows mobile and something happened to the phone I would return it under warranty and never had an issue, I assume its not so easy now.

So the basic question is will this basically set me back to full stock so that if I have to return the phone they will not know that I "voided" the warranty?

Just found the answer to this here http://xdaforums.com/subscription.php?do=addsubscription&t=1009423
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Pithism:
that link you put up doesn't work

and also another question, is this going to return my old VZW apps (blockbuster,lets golf) back to my phone? or just unroot and not re apply the wipe VZW apps and return my software settings to normal?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaywan:
Go check out the full UN root thread...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Pithism:
where could i find that?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaywan:
It's a locked thread right up at the top of the development section.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Pithism:
ive read it backwards and forward and it doesnt really say wether or not i get the Verizon apps back, all it says that it will wipe and restore default settings...

so does that mean original apps as well?

just need a quick answer
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaywan:
Yes
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Pithism:
Thanks really appreciated. Always good to have a back up if problems happen.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Ghost401:
Can anyone please tell me how to apply this to my Phone?

Do I Flash it through Clockworkmod or update like PG05IMG.zip?

Thanks For All The HELP.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaywan:
PG05IMG.zip
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jett2314:
Has any one used this and got it to work? I tried it and it checks the image and goes back to the Hboot screen. The wife is not digging the phone so I may return it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] aostl:
My volume up broken is stuck so I can't flash back to stock to return it. Argghhhh!!!!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radaps:
Hi, I have a Belkin N router and every other device has no problem connecting to the router since I have good signal strenght but the atrix has some serious problems with maintaining a connection or sometimes even connecting to the network. I had a HTC Aria and I never had a problem. Even my wifes iphone 4 has no problems connecting. Has anyone else had a similar problem and is there a solution for it.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gonto:
There are lots of threads about it! Check http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=980047&page=14 !!

Regards!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radaps:
I am with att and still having problems.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mafisometal:
try a factory reset...it may solve the problem, sometimes apps may conflict with functionalities...i had that problem when i first got it, then i was fine afterwards....it may work for you.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarrellRaines:
Static IP address fixed it for me. I just uncheck use static when on a different network than my home network.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radaps:
Darrell Raines

You are the boss..that worked..thanks for your help.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Foxer1:
Where do you uncheck this? Looked under Manage Networks and can't find that option. Thanks!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theonedub:
On the WiFi Settings screen press the menu button (far left key with the 4 squares) and select advanced.
[Surround General] MagpieMDP:
I have an HTC Surround that I bought on eBay that originally came from Telus in Canada. I don't live in Canada and I am not connected to the Telus network. Is there any way I can break my Surround's link with Telus and leave it unbranded?

I have looked at the ROMS Ansar has posted here but they all appear to be branded. I'm not certain what the unbranded radio ROMs do? Do they break the link?

At the end of the day, I just don't want a mobile operator on the other side of the world deciding when I can an can't get updates.

Mike
[Surround General] mo3ulla:
UNbranded version of surround simply does not exist .. that model is EXCLUSIVE for certain carriers
[Surround General] jwzg:
First, download the WP SDK developer tools from here. You'll need them to be able to sideload and install the necessary XAP files.

You will need to developer unlock your device using the instructions here. It was tricky for me, as I did it this morning, and it took the better part of an hour as well as a hard reset to get the Chevron unlocker to communicate with the phone.

You will then need to follow the directions here for debranding your device. The reason why I included the previous steps is that the wpcentral article did not contain enough info by itself to get you on your way.

Let me know if this helped. By the time you finish, you should be able to connect to Zune and get the 7008 "pre-NoDo" update.
[Surround General] MagpieMDP:
Thanks jwzg.

My timing was terrible! The posts telling me how to debrand HTC phones came out a few hours after I asked the question :-).

Telus made the pre-NoDo update yesterday and my phone is now at 7008 without any hacking required.

I tried unlokcing the phone with Chevron but it wouldn't connect. Before I go through the drama of hard resetting, can anyone confirm if I do this that NoDo will be available?

Has anyone successfully loaded NoDo onto their Surround?

Frankly, I'm prepared to wait another week for NoDo. I am more intersted in permanently breaking the link betwen Telus and my phone so that they have no say in when I can apply available updates.
[Surround General] eclipsisme:
I'm on Telus and tried it. It didn't give me NoDo. I don't think MS has rolled out to unbranded phones in Canada yet.
[Surround General] mo3ulla:
for unbranding ... you need disassemble rom . and in XIP section ... EDIT KERNEL boot registry .

thats first .. second - unbranded surround simply does not exist ..

1. TELUS

2. AT&T

3. Cingular

there is not unbranded version like for HD7 - MOZART

if you completely delete carrier information as i described above you could loose updates at all completely
[Surround General] kdj67f:
I followed the steps to "unbrand" my surround and lost the ability to send MMS.

The fix was to delete connection setup, redownload it from the marketplace and run it again. Just a suggestion if you follow those steps.
[Surround General] Dwight2001:
I see you are on AT&T. Did you update when connected to Zune and if so was it Pre-NoDo or NoDo?

Users that try this please post Carrier and what update you received.

Thank you,
[Surround General] ryan00793:
Since the other dude didn't reply. I have an htc surround and I can confirm that the update is only Pre-NoDo (a.k.a. 7.0.7008.0) anyway when I get the NoDo update I will try to remember to post on this thread.
[Surround General] jwzg:
I've already posted a tutorial on getting NoDo here. You may have to unbrand and get the pre-NoDo update first, before you follow the directions in that thread.
[Surround General] kdj67f:
Sorry, been busy at work. I originally got the 7008 build update, then just tonight went through all the "methods" in the WP7 section and downloaded the March update (7390) which I just finished installing. Both times were connected to my laptop (Win7 64 bit ultimate) using the latest Zune software.

Nodo seems snappier so far. And my phone stayed unlocked because I used the preventing relock trick.
[Surround General] talontsi07:
You cannot unbrand the Surround. This is because the other devices you can buy as unbranded but the Surround is only available threw carriers.
[Surround General] kdj67f:
What everybody is asking about is changing the mobile operator string in the registry that tells MS/Zune which carrier you are using. Technically, it is not unbranding but fooling whatever is checking into thinking the device was an unbranded phone.

I also sharpied over the AT&T logo so it looks like it is unbranded :p
[Surround General] talontsi07:
You can't change the string to unbranded because it doesn't exist. Thats what I have read.
[Surround General] kdj67f:
I made my own provxml to change the mobile operator string using directions on this site, loaded it into provxml deployer and ran it. I immediately was offered the 7008 pre update build when I synced with Zune. I think it worked just fine.
[Surround General] talontsi07:
Interesting, link?
[Surround General] kdj67f:
This post explained a few things, especially with the tool to convert .reg/.rgu files to provxml. I exported a reg from my computer, deleted all lines and re-wrote using the example codes listed. I then used the tool at the bottom of the first post to convert it.

This Is worth a read too...

This thread is where to get the provxml deployer and how to use it.

I don't have too much more time, but read those threads and search the attachments of the dev/hacking threads about NODO and I guarantee someone has already posted up a good working provxml that you can borrow to get some de-branding action. :)

*EDIT* I attached the exact xap I used to do the mods which got me to nodo. Use at your own risk, I take no responsibility blah blah blah. It makes sure to unlock, prevents relocking, opened advanced settings in the ease of access panel and changed the mobile operator string to "000-88" and following the methods to get nodo listed in WP7 general section and much trying, I was successful. Feel free to go through it and make your own mods, or use this. Or decompile it for an example. Either way, good luck.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dafunk60:
Since I updated to flash 10.2 from the market a few days ago flash seems to register my screen touches in a higher position that I am actually touching. This is a big pain because all of the flash navigation in videos is usually at the bottom.

The touch alignment is fine throughout the rest of the phone and have I performed the Touch Calibration.

Anyone else having similar issues? I searched around with no luck.
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
Same problem here. I have a lot of partial wake usage froma process UID 1001 as well.

11h42m since unplugged and i'm at 32% with 1h20m display time. This is freaking terrible.

Systeminfo shows my top app usage as "System processes" with "mediaserver" being the highest usage within that.

The phone is awake almost the entire time it's unplugged.

Spare parts shows it "running" 2-3 times as much as the screen is on. Absolutely frustrating.
[Atrix 4G General] naturefreak85:
I know if I keep using the device I get about 4-5 hours of display time before I hit 20% but just one network process is pissing me off. I emailed the developer of Battery Left Pro to see if they have any idea.
[Android Apps and Games] lmiyar:
I have found a way to get apps from the amazon appstore even if you are from outside the only working region (US)

I have tested it with Angry Birds Rio. BTW, I'm from Mexico

We need to configure the HotSpotShield to work with our phone. You need to be rooted in order to do this.

(Credits to hacktrix2006 for this method)

So steps to setting up HotSpotShield

1. Download VPN Connections 0.99 (goo(dot)gl/QPulb)

2. You need to get an user name and Password from HotSpotShield (Click on get Account ID) (goo(dot)gl/JFzF)

3. Open VPN Connections 0.99

4. Settings for VPN Connection 0.99:

Make sure VPN is enabled

Select "Add Another Network"

Connection Name: HotSpotShield

IPSec gateway address: 68.68.107.101

IPSec ID: hss

IPSec Secret: hss

Username: "The one obtained from the HotSpotShield"

Password: "Same as Username"

Password + Token Digits: Unticked

5. Click on "Add"

6. Press and Hold on "HotSpotShield" and select Connect.

7. It should take a few seconds and you should be connected.​

Know that you have configured hotspot shield and confirmed that it works we need to set up our amazon settings to make it think we are buying from the US

You will need to configure an Amazon 1-click option with a valid US address, you can look for an hotel or you can even use google's own:

1600 Amphitheatre Parkway

Mountain View, CA 94043

goo.gl(dot)pOAJF

If you want to buy and app (Not a free app) then you will also need a credit card that can work with an american address. I have a Banamex-California Commerce Bank and it gives me the option to use an address from Florida. You need to set this payment option with the 1-click address.

Make sure you click on Click here to make this your 1-Click default address so it can be used for buy apps, mp3s and kindle books.

Hope this is helpful
[Android Apps and Games] SxcKieranGrr:
Anyone confirm this works? Also i definitely won't be buying apps from that store, i dont want to give them any of my money i would rather contact the developer direct and pay them.
[Android Apps and Games] Elemetrix:
hmm I just get a Force Close as soon as I try to connect to the VPN
[Android Apps and Games] SxcKieranGrr:
Ok so far everything works I just need to add a credit card but if I add my own will it not be able to tell its not American?
[Android Apps and Games] Destke:
My problem here begins with obtaining a user id @ hotspotshield, nowhere on the website or in app there is that phrase you wrote down there.

Any explanation?