yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Atrix 4G General] aszrael1266:
There was a good response on the motorola forums about this so I figured I would post the response here for the O.P. and others who don't check that site.

The 30 second threshold is actually something built in to aid in detection of moisture on the screen and normalize the touch plane (like shaking an Etch A Sketch). The algorithm is this case assumes a finger that is on one spot for an extended period of time is actually a drop of water. If the finger is removed from the screen, touch should become usable again in a second or two in that spot. The touch driver would then detect essentially a "negative touch" in the area where the finger was removed and do a screen calibration (shake the Etch A Sketch again). We are looking into what can be done to increase this time threshold for you gamers and still provide a good water immunity experience. The tradeoff would be if your phone screen gets wet (rain or mist), the touch on the screen would become basically unusable. Stay tuned to this thread for updates.
[Atrix 4G General] jug6ernaut:
Intresting response, but i call bs. While this may have something to do with it, or may be what they are trying to do. If it is so it is a horrible implementation, as the phone freaks out. So basically, if u DO have water drop on ur screen and then it moves after x seconds then ur phone freaks out? that seems like a good idea...yea...

also can u link the thread/post where u got this? thanks!
[Atrix 4G General] kalte84:
Here:

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47362?tstart=0

It's the 3rd from the bottom. I just saw the thread too.
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
Having worked for a company that produces capacitive touch controllers for ITO panels (like the one on the Atrix) I can confirm that this is exactly what the touchscreen controller is doing. It's basically always normalizing the baseline to correct for noise or panel imperfections or water or other interferances.
[Atrix 4G General] jug6ernaut:
im not saying that this isnt what they are trying to do. Im saying that it doesnt work very well lol(at least in this situation).
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
Sorry, I thought you were calling BS on the implementation, not BS on the quality of the design!

It does work well as long as you don't have a prolonged touch in a single area. ITO has some interesting quirks that we had to deal with, especially when you're using it near an LCD.

If only the Xperia Play were coming to ATT, it wouldn't be an issue :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G General] aywen89:
base on the discussion on motorola forum,i think they wont bother to solve this.This is damn frustrating!!!
[Atrix 4G General] jrancher:
Could someone confirm if this bug is fixed in the update?
[Atrix 4G General] Whipon:
Yes, it seems its fixed.

Couldn't reproduce it in 4.1.5.7.
[Atrix 4G General] leorexz:
It's not fixed at all, at least not on my atrix, still the same annoying s***!

It's amazing how motorola was capable of producing a high-end dual-core phone without properly working multitouch.

Anyone knows if motorola is going to fix this? I would like to know, because if not, i'm going to sell the atrix and start looking for another phone.

I mean, i like this phone, but this bug makes it impossible to play games properly.
[Atrix 4G General] nazrin313:
Mine is fixed by the update ; ) tested it just 5 mins ago..over a minute n no problems
[Atrix 4G General] TheLlamaGod:
mine didnt get fixed by the update
[Atrix 4G General] knigitz:
Someone should ask what their target audience was when developing this "feature", people who want to run games with multitouch capabilities on their dual core mobile or people who want use their phone in the shower. A disclaimer would have sufficed for the latter.
[Atrix 4G General] photobillyli:
Same here, I am having the same problem!!!

It is even worse after updating to 4.1.57!!!

I have sent email to motorola asking them to fix the problem!
[Atrix 4G General] photobillyli:
We should all send email to MOTO and ask MOTO have the problem fixed as soon as possible!!!!!
[Atrix 4G General] Zanr Zij:
Confirm this problem on Gingerblur ROM! Hope Moto fix it asap!
[Atrix 4G General] KingKuba13:
What game is best to try out this "problem"?

I haven't noticed it yet, surprisingly.
[Atrix 4G General] maxcc:
For me this is the worse thing about the atrix after the locked bootloader...
[Atrix 4G General] photobillyli:
Try MiniSquadron, GunBROS, Guerrilla Bob, keep pressing the fire button for a long time ~ 30 seconds to one minute and you will start noticing the problem.
[Atrix 4G General] aywen89:
no need games only to try, one finger could cause the bug ady. Just download any multitouch test, open the app then hold one/two finger on a position for 20 secs, then u will c the touch sensors starts to freak out.

BTW, i have posted on moto forum before, people are answering the phone was design that way and i dun think they will solve this matter.So hope for the devs here can solve it
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
It's likely the firmware on the Atmel microcontroller that is the touchscreen controller. When I used to work at another microcontroller company that made capacitive sensing chips that's how we did it.
[Atrix 4G General] yimzz:
same problem......:(
[Atrix 4G General] daysyang:
i noticed it too while playing guns bro
[Atrix 4G General] cesone:
If we cant enjoy games on this phone what's the point in having the tegra 2 chip in it.

Motorola could choose not to address the issue but the right thing to do is to fix it because I'm pretty sure alot of people that have this phone play games. I mean the only reason why I bought this phone is because of the tegra 2 chip. I would like to enjoy and play games on this phone the way it is meant to play. Whats the point in having a phone that has console graphics if you cant play games . In that case I'll buy a lambo and have the dealer lock the speed at 50mph
[Atrix 4G General] cheetah2k:
I think its safe to say that every phone out there on Android right now has bugs. This is probably the worst one on the Atrix, although I personally favour games like Angry Birds and sit in awe as to just how smoothly it plays.

I'd be confident that Motorola will fix it and soon. The Atrix is CES 2011 phone of the year, so everyone's looking at Motorola to see how they perform with this handset. That includes Gingerbread support as well.

For Motorola to let this handset ride off into the sunset like others in the past, would be suicidal IMO - not to mention, bare the wrath of everyone calling it the CES Best Phone Fail of 2011.
[Atrix 4G General] aywen89:
i Hope wat u say is true and i cross my finger to hope motorola will fix it. But from the replies i get from the moto suport forum, they sound like dun intend to solve this problem,i guess there still not enough people voicing out about this problem in moto support forum to make them acknowledge this prob.
[Atrix 4G General] gachiennuocmam:
I saw this issue once and now i can not make this happens again. Perhaps there are some software conflicts?

EDIT: i just figured out keep holding the bird in Angry Birds for many seconds then it automatically released the bird. Single touch issue confirm. MAD!!!
[Atrix 4G General] jug6ernaut:
It has nothing to do with software, its in the actual touchscreen controller. Its system wide.
[Atrix 4G General] aywen89:
i think the title is mistaken ady, people keep thought this only happens when multitouch. But it does not only happens in multitouch touch,the bug happens also with single touch. Single or dual touch, just press on the screen and remain for 16-17 secs, then u will sure c the bug, pls download any multitouch testers from market to try and c it obviously
[Atrix 4G General] photobillyli:
exactly！！！！

btw, after a dozens of emails and a call with motorola, they finally gave me an acceptable reply:

Dear Consumer

Thanks for reaching out to Motorola for help. We could not immediately answer your question, so we are sending it on to our expert team for help. Please be patient while our experts evaluate your question. They will respond to you soon.

Regards,

- Motorola Consumer Support

BUT!!! I think you guys have to report the bug to motorola, too, giving motorola PRESSURE!!!!
[Atrix 4G General] tom2517:
I got this problem with my Atrix as well.
[Atrix 4G General] :
Any information on this?

I want a response from Motorola.
[Atrix 4G General] tripleh3lix:
There's an n64 emulator for the Atrix!? I'm getting this phone tonight and Zelda on my phone would be AMAZING!
[Atrix 4G General] :
Ok so apparently this is a feature and it's designed so that when a water droplet is on the phone it doesn't mistaken it for a finger.

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47362

scroll down to post 12 by knucklepuck1
[Atrix 4G General] Antszej:
Maybe its a little bit ot, but my defy have the same bug. After 15seconds stops responding, but i dont have to wait even few seconds, just touch again
[Atrix 4G General] jug6ernaut:
Reading through this thread would have given u thevl same information...
[Atrix 4G General] wirednix:
Just wanted to add that this is exactly what I was thinking..

I wish I could have an option to turn it on/off or increase the time value of the feature.
[Atrix 4G General] Mhyst:
Unlocked bootloader = modded kernel development

Perhaps now that we can unlock the bootloader we will see devs making custom kernels that address this issue. *crosses fingers*
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Isn't it a shame that after 7 months there's still no solution for this? *sigh*

Way to screw your customers Motorolla! :mad:
[Atrix 4G General] Whipon:
Exactly. This issue is even present in CM7. I start to fear its a hardware issue.
[Atrix 4G General] xredjokerx:
apparently, its in the PDS partition, which by messing with it, could permabrick your device. sadness.
[Atrix 4G General] Nipit:
Still no fix? I can't play games on my FPSE emulator. What for do I need dual core mobile when I can't play games?
[Atrix 4G General] Notorious544d:
I got a fix!

Should work on any ROM but has been scripted to say 'For Neutrino ROM.' Ignore that and enjoy!

Very big thanks to nok07635!

Shall I make a new thread about this?
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
Yes, please make this as available as possible. Trying it on the newest weekly atm
[Atrix 4G General] ngagephone:
Any chance you can tell me just the lines you used to fix the bug thanks in advance.
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Marvelous! Marvelous! Thank you so much!
[Atrix 4G General] msd24200:
Yes, this needs new thread
[Atrix 4G General] Notorious544d:
New thread.
[HTC Inspire 4G] calin75:
How about that thunderbolt? Anybody thinking about switching?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/htc-thunderbolt-review/

16 mb/s dowload and 45 mb/s upload

My Inspire gets 1.9 mb/s down and 320 kb/s up. :mad: :confused:\

AT&T is full of crap!!!
[HTC Inspire 4G] harlenm:
Wait till more than one phone is connected to the lte network and see what happens. I priced out moving my 4 lines over to verizon a few months ago, and it would have cost me $100 more per month.

I see 2.5-3.5 down and usually around 1.3 up. I'm more than happy about that. Most I've ever seen down is about 5, best upload was over 3.
[HTC Inspire 4G] calin75:
I understand your point, but at least you can see that Verizon is not capping the upload speeds of TB and giving preference to iCrap users.
[HTC Inspire 4G] kirk123:
How can this be true? The picture clearly shows the Inspire 4G in Edge but the captions for the photo say the phone was in HSPA+?

I'm not saying that any 4G phone on AT&T can reach those LTE speeds, but the phone can pull better speeds with HSDPA, not Edge.
[HTC Inspire 4G] scward:
the makers of that app have reported problems in reporting the correct upload speed for the thunderbolt too, so the 45 mbps is innaccurate.

besides the main reason its this fast is because of the lack of competing lte signals for the phone as it is new, and att being behind in the lte game
[HTC Inspire 4G] dacket84:
I think the low signal has something to do with it too. I notice sometimes when I have 1 bar, even when connected to H+ I get intolerably slow speeds. But that pic is funny, good point with the Edge and the comment haha.
[HTC Inspire 4G] calin75:
With 5 bars and H+ connected I get about 2 - 2.5 mb/s down and 320 kb/s up. Still, that's lousy compared to Verizon's 4g.
[HTC Inspire 4G] ballinbashir:
Inspire is not running on 4G yet

Go to settings, about phone, networks and it does not show hsdpa or hspa+ is shows UMTS which is also known as 3G....:mad:
[HTC Inspire 4G] SmittyRN:
I'm running LeeDroids ROM and mine shows hsdpa..... never looked at it while it was stock, though.
[HTC Inspire 4G] ierv69:
Speed

Hi, here in Puerto Rico My best speed was 4.6 Down 1.8 Up...

Thats good for me!!!

I love Inspire :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] booty hater:
Go into the Thunderbolt threads. The speedtest app can't measure correctly for LTE. When they go to speakeasy in the web browser they're pulling about the same speeds as us.
[HTC Inspire 4G] IsraelR:
I had a chance to play with a buddy's phone for a few hours and the phone itself seemed slower whenever I pulled up a list, such as apps or pictures. Of course, his phone hasn't been rooted yet, so there may be some untapped potential.
[HTC Inspire 4G] gtg465x:
Nice thing about the Inspire is the huge dev community due to Desire HD ROMs being compatible. Thunderbolt is different enough that they will most likely be starting from scratch.
[HTC Inspire 4G] churro7:
ATT 4G is only HSPA+ not lte so it cant get speeds comparable
[HTC Inspire 4G] Androidude:
Update from the article:

"We've been told by Ookla that the Thunderbolt's massive send buffer is responsible for the erroneously high uplink speeds -- they've got a fix in the works and it'll be available as an update to the Speedtest.net app soon."

I personally don't want to pay $150 for a front-facing camera. I'll stick with my $99 Inspire.
[HTC Inspire 4G] 0space_monkey0:
i was thinking the exact same thing.

ATT will get LTE...............eventually. Also no one i have seen has HSPA+ yet.
[HTC Inspire 4G] mattmiller:
When u compare h+ vs LTE ...atleast make sure u got the right settings on the phone before trying to troll the inspire.
[Omnia 7 General] Niiceg:
Hello,

I increased sound level in diagnosis, but how to get back to normal level? Because phone speaker is way too loud. Even with lvl 1 it's very loud!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ettan:
Hello.

I just experienced multi-touch on my x10, I didn't think this was physically possible. And no, it's not a double-tap misunderstanding. I placed two of my fingers on the screen and zoomed in and out like on any other phone with multi-touch. I did it in the default browser that comes with the phone. How is this possible all of a sudden? I haven't run any updates on it since last time I checked for it, and it didn't work then. Despite any available update, I thought multi-touch was a hardware thing?

I'm running:

Model: x10i

Version: 2.2.1

Baseband: 2.1.54

Kernel: 2.6.29 - SEMCUser@SEMCHost #1

Mod: CyanogenMod-6.1.3 v3.3

Build: CM 6.1.3 v3.3 [2.2]

Any response is appreciated!

-Ettan
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
Lol they implemented dual touch like three months ago... You're just finding this out now?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wing_zero8556:
lol its pseudo dual touch, this was released ages ago..
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haszan1172:
Lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ettan:
Have I been gone for that long?! I feel like it's only two weeks ago dual-touch was being discussed and said never to work, haha! I feel kinda stupid, and yes I figured it out just now! I've been using Dolphin browser all this time, since dual touch didn't work. So it's not really dual-touch then, it's a simulation of it? Cause I thought dual-touch was a hardware thing.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
no it is dual touch it just doesn't work the best. if the two touch points cross axis they go all haywire...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ettan:
That seems kinda odd. A few months ago it was said that multi touch never would work on x10i because of hardware issues. Anyhow, I like it! It's not as good as on Desire but it works.

Haha, I should begin keeping myself a little bit more updated on what's going on so I can avoid these kinda awkward situations. I sort of just update my phone once in a while when something new is released and never really care to read the changelog or anything. Silly meh.

Thanks for all replies. Except the lmfao guy, that was uncalled for :/
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrljlamon:
Dam.... smh
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shahkam:
Before dual touch comes out i have manage it to make. It work on the nexus revamped live wallpaper lool.
[Desire HD Accessories] fipec:
I'm from the perspective of purchasing a memory card, 16 or 32 GB

I await your advice to not buy anything.

thank you
[Desire HD Accessories] fipec:
Just for the record, I'm more tempted by a 32 GB...
[Desire HD Accessories] TorchDesireHD:
depends what you are going to be using it for?

music apps photos etc?

i have a 16Gb class 10 Joytech card in mine and it performs very well :D
[Desire HD Accessories] EgorkaSanyok:
Well, regardless of what you're going to use it for, extra free space is always welcome, and who knows, maybe you'll find yourself in need for more space than a 8 gb or 16, so, if the price difference ain't that big, go for 32.
[Desire HD Accessories] tkolev:
The biggest and fastest you can get :D. Recently I bought 16GB class 10, because a/ I wanted to see if a faster card would make the shutter in video recording go away and b/ I needed a bigger card (one that would be enough to store a full season of TV shows - roughly 8GB and have space for my photos/music/apps). Because for me faster was more important than bigger I searched for class 10 cards and settled for 16GB (at a bargain price too - 30 EUR). I have to say that I'm very happy with it - it's really class 10, no shutter at all and I have enough space to copy a full season of a TV show to have with me to watch while I have nothing else to do.
[Desire HD Accessories] TorchDesireHD:
whatever size you do get make sure its minimum class 6 or above ;) otherwise as stated the speed (or lack of) may start to annoy you :)
[Desire HD Accessories] mr.bobbels:
SanDisk 16GB, best price-performance ratio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Desire HD Accessories] pkabia:
Go for 32 Gigs.

even tho if youre low on money go for it! then you`l never go out of space

and the DHD dont slow down either so its a win win win! :D
[Desire HD Accessories] ZedeN:
Would recomend you to get atleast a 8gb class 6, you can get them for under 9GBP on amazon. In my opinion those are the bare minimums. You need class 6 to record 720p video without stutter and 8 gb holds decent ammount of music/videos.

It all depends on how much you willing to spend in reality.

Personally i just bought Patriot 16GB class 10.
[Desire HD Accessories] maarten00:
I don't think anything above class 6 is very useful seeing as the memory card reader on the DHD may not be fast enough to read/write anything faster than that, but I could be wrong. I have a 16GB Class 4 Duracell myself which works at very high speeds, way above the classification. For it's price a very good card, in my opinion. But I'd go for 32GB if I had the money for it.
[Desire HD Accessories] tkolev:
The DHD can read/write at speeds way higher than 6MB/s. My class 10 card has transfers of 19/11 MB/s (in the phone, not via a SD adapter) and there are reports of beter (and more expensive) class 10 cards working at even higher speeds.
[Desire HD Accessories] Ehrles:
Transcend 32 gb class 2 ( 4 mbyte/s write, 10 mbyte/s read)
[Desire HD Accessories] Foladko:
I have a class 4 and I never noticed any video shutter :)
[Desire HD Accessories] fipec:
Thank you for all your replies.

I have almost 10GB of music and movies to put on.

I bought a SanDisk 16GB class 6.

Thanks
[Desire HD Accessories] tadman2010:
Recommeded Sd Card 16gig

well i use kingston 16gig class 2 and it seem to be fine nat had any problems with it have used other sdcard found kingston and scan disk to be about the best
[Click General] Stiflerlv:
problem solved!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] antaed:
hi guys,

i'm sorry if this was answered before but i searched and couldn't find the answer.

i'm trying to buy an app from the web based android market but i cannot send it to my device.

my hd2 is in the dropdown list but it's greyed out and i get this message: "this item cannot be installed on your device" :mad:.

i cannot download directly from the market app because we don't have access to paid apps in my country (although we do have access to them via the web based market :confused:).

so, does anybody know a way to make google think i have a native android phone?

thanks :),

antaed

p.s.

this is the app i'm desperately trying to buy:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.softpauer.motogp2011&feature=search_result
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] XthelordinatorX:
it's not the newest version available but it's close ;)

Deleted Warez

just download and install ;) free and it should work (btw you should enable the "install apps not from market" function
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] antaed:
Thank you so much XthelordinatorX ;)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psufan5:
Installed the bloat free rom after wiping all my data, cache, dalvik etc... When I rebooted post ROM flash, all my stuff was still there...

Is ROM manager actually working?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g00s3y:
Nope a lot of people are getting the same issues, me included.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eleazar123:
Same issue here. :( I'm gonna have to go back to stock no root just to get rid of my data.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eleazar123:
woot, it works now! :D flash cwr 2.3 if you haven't already and that will fix wiping data/cache.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shocky2:
As topic does anyone know how to fix this? i've trired removing the version on the phone and installing other versions, but they eithe refuse to install or just don't work, or giver a message saying it's expired.

This is really the only issue I have with this firmware.
[Nexus S General] Keithod:
Hello,

I bought a Nexus S (Vodafone) yesterday and noticed that I am on 2.3.1. I have checked for updates OTA but it says that I am up to date.

I found a site, which describes how to upgrade to 2.3.2 but I'm wondering if there is anyway to debrand so that in future I will get all OTA updates from Google?

I searched for it and found this thread for the Nexus One:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=798602

and wonder if it also applies to the Nexus S? Also, he mentions passimg file. What is a passimg file? Is it contained in the update.zip??

Thanks,

Keith
[Nexus S General] Deleted member 2842059:
Welcome to the club. You can manually update but there is no reason we should have to. Google should have taken care of all it's Nexus owners, making sure that all of the OTA updates have been pushed out. Sadly, this seems not to be the case. As a Nexus One and a Nexus S owner the bleeding edge OTA's are what attracted me to the platform . I find myself continually questioning the value of the Nexus platform if Google continues to let customers fall by the wayside. I don't want to hear any crap about patience and time. Google has had ample time to push the OTA to everyone at this point.
[Nexus S General] kave2:
I have Nexus S from Vodafone[CPW] too, since yesterday. Mine was too on 2.3.1, OTA update didn't work so updated manually. I don't think there is any branding at all. Didn't see any logos or anything. Which one do you have, Super Amoled or Super Clear LCD?
[Nexus S General] albertogg:
try checking in: *#*#2432546#*#*

but theres really no problem with manual update.. place the update.zip on the sdcard root directory then boot into recovery..