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[myTouch 4G General] negreenfield:
Yeah, I'll be one of them. Almost 100% guarantee I'm moving to Sprint. I get a 25% discount with my company anyway. I got 12% with tmobile which was still cheaper but there's no way I'm staying with at&t.
[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
Im not on att because of the lack of freedom...drop calls, ****ty customer service. If they give us the chance to get out of our contract im off to verizon. Wonder if htc will make the pyramid for verizon haha so **** att and all thier gay messages bout ppl tethering.
[myTouch 4G General] witeboy07:
They already bought it....30 minutes ago .
[myTouch 4G General] mikejet:
So not cool....
[myTouch 4G General] I Am Marino:
I'm surprised Sprint didn't try harder, if anyone needed a merger it was them.

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[myTouch 4G General] 18.4009:
So, do you think those of us with contracts will be allowed out of such contract at the time of the merger?
[myTouch 4G General] Freek91:
lol @ everyone jumping to conclusions

calm down people...we have no idea the details of the merger...no idea how or when it will effect us...and for the most part people that already on tmobile cell and data plans will be grandfathered into whatever they have now

now...i will say im not happy with this news...i was an att customer for over 7 years way back when and i dont want to be one now...but being i just signed a 2 year contract again to get my new phones...im stuck...but im not going nuts yet until i hear what the merger means

EDIT: i just read that the deal still has to be approved by the gov't and will take up to a year for the merger to actually be fully implemented http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2382267,00.asp
[myTouch 4G General] darinmc:
Ironic that I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile so I could afford a fully featured phone with reasonable data rates...
[myTouch 4G General] Drzfr3shboialex:
Noooooooo FCC has to approve this hopefully it gets disapproved
[myTouch 4G General] Drzfr3shboialex:
Look

Newsroom.T-Mobile.com

We will have the same everything :D
[myTouch 4G General] kmdub:
Yeah, not really happy either about the merger either. I personally think the move was about spectrum primarily, with customer acquisition certainly a consideration. However, you do not HAVE to be an AT&T customer. Just because you just signed a two year contract does not mean you must stay with AT&T/T-Mobile once the deal is done. You, as the customer generally have the option. It is not like a mortgage, where the purchasing entity acquires the debt/contracts of mortgage holders. In that case, you still owe money, regardless of who is servicing the contract. However, cell phone contracts are different. Now, I am sure they won't be promoting this information, and will not materially change your contract from what it was when you agreed to it under T-Mobile. But, keep in mind that you cannot be forced to do business with AT&T. You may have to go round and round with them, but trust me, they would have a hard time enforcing the contract you signed with T-Mobile, even though they may try.
[myTouch 4G General] VibrantOwnr:
a great company + a horrible move = a ton of screwed customers stuck with one really happy/****ty company
[myTouch 4G General] pinoyz:
More info from the tmo newroom

http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/more-information-att-acquires-tmobile
[myTouch 4G General] witeboy07:
IFans dot com put the FAQ up...all details are there...
[myTouch 4G General] Abbens:
I dont like this one bit.
[myTouch 4G General] mrmako777:
fark. i wonder if this means tmo will operate under the same 3g bands it does now or if it will roll under att's. im on cin bell and the only unlocked phones i can use and still retain 3g is tmo :(
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
As posted in the T-Mobile newsroom, we will have the same everything....until, that is, the merger is approved and AT&T gets involved. This most likely means a 2GB data cap and non-market app (sideloading) lockout on Android phones. My company is in the process of a company-wide switchover from Verizon to Sprint, which means that the deal will probably come with a decent employee discount. My wife is eligible for a 25% Verizon discount through her employer. As much as I like T-Mobile, I really dislike AT&T. If T-Mo stays a self-sufficient entity, I'll remain a customer. If not, Verizon may definitely be in my future.
[myTouch 4G General] witeboy07:
As soon as this happens I'm moving to Verizon and staying with home internet...very depressing.
[myTouch 4G General] texastoast:
**** **** **** **** ****. I LITERALLY just switched from a 8-year sadomasochistic relationship with AT&T 1 and a half months ago. At the same time I dumped their loathsome DSL service. I was so happy, I went around proclaiming, "I'm off the AT&T tit!"

Every time I think I'm out THEY KEEP DRAGGING ME BACK IN!
[myTouch 4G General] I Am Marino:
You got a year at the least to live on.

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[myTouch 4G General] Drzfr3shboialex:
Write to FCC

http://www.fcc.gov/contacts.html
[myTouch 4G General] brwnohno:
Lol! As aggravated as I am about this acquisition, I had to laugh at your opening sentence. I feel your pain! Optimistically, maybe we can keep our current plans when the acquisition is final. My gut feeling is telling me that I shouldn't be optimistic though.
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
You are unfortunately correct. I went to the TMo website and their Q&A assumes most people in the US are totally uninformed - 30 second sound-bite driven-unable-to question-and think irrational idiots! Unfortunately, they are correct.

This is an acquisition for one purpose - to eliminate competition - period. TMo, as the only other carrier with the same network system, has been a thorn in their side - an they want it gone,

If Sprint really wants to avoid becoming a more distant #3 - they have a short window to make a competing (not necessarily higher) offer and to become a party to the anti-trust review process.

As far as the FCC - not a party to this - will be a Justice Department division. The head of Justice - like his boss, has no balls - possibly end of story.

Plus, corporations pay off both parties, so there will be no political opposition. There is no difference between corrupt republican politicians and alleged progressives like Pelosi on issues like this - they are all bought-and-paid for. Witness most major mergers in the last two decades - all anti-competitive and all unopposed and approved.

TMo's Q&A's are ONLY trying to deflect public opposition of the merger - they DO NOT SPEAK FOR AT&T NOR WHAT AT&T WILL DO!! Is that clear enough for 30 second sound-biters to understand? Note - this excludes most of the XDA community (except for knee-jerk liberals and conservatives), who for the most part are very independent and intelligent.

What TMo fears is a rapid and significant loss of business during this period, as if the merger looses enough monetary and strategic value, At&T could easily back out - which would be good for us.

So get the word out - do not buy or contract anything from TMO from here on forward as (in fact) they are lying about the intent (do they expect a rational person to believe in the "benefits" of a larger AT&T to them???).and future actions of AT&T!

And do not take it out on TMo worker-bees - at the end of the day, they are really going to get totally fu...d!
[myTouch 4G General] I Am Marino:
Jump on the Sprint and Verizon train.

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[myTouch 4G General] tw39515:
I guess we are losing wifi calling too.
[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
And if there going to the LTE, means youll need a new phone to be compatable with that, unless u want just edge. Dont care about the 3rd party app thing...im rooted, and every android i own will be, so f thier rules. Ill wifi tether all day long hahaha

Air force finance has better customer service then AT&T...if your military ull understand.
[myTouch 4G General] hammer4203:
Isn't the mytouch a quad band phone? If you remember tmo and att shared their network til a few years ago. Our phones will work, but I bet att pulls the same crap they did when it was cingular! You have to get a new phone (a cheapie) or you can get the one of your choice by signing a new contact!! Let's all buy stock in tmo and stop em!!
[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
Att is low band 3g and tmo is high band. Thats y if u had an iphone you would only get edge. But correct me if im wrong.
[myTouch 4G General] vikashfoolsu:
Man this is really ridiculous. What bothers me is that just last month my family and I signed a 2 year contract, so we wont be able to switch w/o having a big fee to pay in the middle of all this. Verizon is really good but the problem is they're really costly, and Sprint, well Sprint just sucks in Seattle according to people I know. I may be the youngest in my family but I always have the say on anything electronics because I know a lot about them, but at this point I really don't know what I'm going to decide.

If at&t does implement a 2GB data cap then I'm definitely switching to probably Sprint. I've already downloaded 3 GB this month and I can't be bothered to pay fee's for that. This really sucks.
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
Tmobile 3g bands will disappear. These devices will be useless.
[myTouch 4G General] kainepaine:
Pretty ironic how T-Mobile was beating down on AT&T with their constant 4G can this on this network compared to the competitors quote on quote 4G network. Buying them out was a big f**k you to T-Mobile and it's loyal customers. Can anybody say monopoly?
[myTouch 4G General] NeverAlwaysEver:
Lets just wait and see till the merger is complete (if it gets approved) and see how it affects current t mobile customers concerning the plan fee and data. Existing t-mobile customers may just get to keep unlimited data as opposed to At&t 2GB capped plan and maybe network and data performance will be better. Oh well, we can only wait and see and its still 1 year to go.
[myTouch 4G General] missinglink69:
This is not what I wanted to happen Verizon here I come screw AT&T. There Android phones suck and I not sure if they allow third party apps.
[myTouch 4G General] missinglink69:
Verizon here I come. 8 years customer of T-mobile Thanks
[myTouch 4G General] oak25:
http://www.facebook.com/SaveOurDroid?sk=wall

like the cause "Android Users against the T-Mobile takeover" on facebook
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
I don't see how or why the merger would mean they would lose their 3g network.

If they are buying t-mobile then why would their 3g bands disappear rendering our devices useless?

I actually choose to see the positive in this. Biggest being There are areas that at&t has better coverage than t-mobile(Even with edge), so i can definitely see

this being good coverage wise.

Me myself, i have no issues with At&t.

Tmobile(Flexpay) customer service is horrible but i actually loved At&ts customer service when i was with them
[myTouch 4G General] bighulk666:
Do some reading.

AT&T is investing in LTE technology, not the HSPA+ t-mo uses. If AT&T does merge with T-mo, we will all need new devices to access the LTE "4g" network.

So as for the positive...still see it? AT&T is horrible in the realm of customer service, and if they re-work their plans, prices will increase, and bandwidth will have smaller caps.
[myTouch 4G General] smatthew45:
WTF T-Mobile are you kidding me?!?!?! I've been trying to avoid AT&T for so long!!! lol :mad:
[myTouch 4G General] bighulk666:
No ****. I just looked at Verizon and their basic smart phone plan is $89.00/month, just like at&t. They don't even offer unlimited text.
[myTouch 4G General] katiepea:
I can't imagine the numbers of tmobile customers, who are tmobile customers because they hate at&t . I'd say a mass exodus will occur. People are only on tmobile because they're geeks or poor, not coverage, neither of which concur with at&t policies.
[myTouch 4G General] :
Geeks and poor dude I had at&t for a landline all it did was drop calls. When I had an iPhone after they bought Cingular all it did was drop calls. What do I expect now when it bought T-Mobile dropped calls. Poor has nothing to do about it. Why spend extra money when you can save it. Verizon is expensive as hell. Sprint seems like the best bet. I don't even call that often I mostly text through Google voice which is data only. But when I do make a call once in a blue moon I don't want it to be dropped.
[myTouch 4G General] katiepea:
I thought cingular bought at&t, anyway.. Maybe "poor" isn't the right word. I think people more concerned with plan costs are on tmobile as opposed to at&t. Which didn't necessarily mean you're poor. After the customer service switches over and the low rates are gone I bet sprint will see a nice new subscriber base, then be bought by verizon
[myTouch 4G General] Tim_Z:
Cingular was a joint venture between att and bellsouth, 60/40. When att bought bellsouth it took complete control of cingular and changed the name to att.

Tim
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
Well i called t-mobile last night and they are about as useless as screen doors on a submarine. All they know is AT&T is "planning" giving everyone who stays with them a new iPhone. But that isn't official yet.

I do know that legally their has to be a new contract to be signed, for us to continue service with ATT, under a name change. So this would be a loop hole for us to jump through to go to VZW or Sprint, or whomever. Last night when my wife (who is a para-legal for property management) and i saw this she said "for their to be a new owner, by name and in actions, all previous service subscribers must approve a new contract under their respective terms". So for us [as customers] to approve their services we have to sign their contract, we don't sign the contract we are free agents, with no ETF.

Now i'm not jumping on the "this frakking sucks train yet". I love t-mobile, i've been with them for YEARS [since 1998]. But i do not see this being a good thing in the least. I don't even think the FCC or the DOJ will pass this. They will own 43% of the market share. If they grow in a 8% fashion they will own 51% of the market. Once that happens i can see the DOJ and FCC stepping in to break things up. ATT with that type of market share they will set the standards for pricing and service. Which we know ATT has shoddy plan as of now, so things will only get worse.
[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
I thought, well read, that we will still get our bill through tmo...after they merge.
[myTouch 4G General] hammer4203:
Sounds like att got hammered by verizon! If you think about it the network gets bigger faster. Most of us live outside the big cities. Our phones will work on both networks and all att had to do is switch on a few frequencies to accommodate it. Tmo will still be in the picture. I mean why risk losing the customers now? Makes no sense. It really all depends on the final decision though.
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
Cingular was owned by the bell companies before they acquired AT&T Wireless, which was part of the original AT&T. After that, the original AT&T pretty much was history, and the monopoly rebuilding really took off , but under a different entity renamed AT&T.
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
I don't know where several posters (on other forums) are getting the idea that TMO contracts will not carryover as enforceable.

In a Corporate merger (takeover or consolidation - does not matter), the Corporate entity survives, including all assets (including contracts) and liabilities. Therefore, if you want to determine what they CAN do - refer to TMo's present general terms & conditions. Also, I believe the t&e's already allow them to be modified almost at will - as in the case of the recently imposed data caps.

AT&T may offer some initial sweeteners to avoid migration (in spite of the contracts - they could be swamped with litigation against millions of customer anyway as they head for the door). But given their nature, that will most likely come at a cost like new contracts.

One tiny ray of hope. AT&T and Verizon would have about 80% of the market, which would most likely increase as Sprint gets squeezed from both sides. Spring is aware of this, and as publicly stated that are going oppose this. The best defense would be for them to make a formal proposal to acquire TMo.

They would not have to top AT&T's offer necessarily, but offer one that would maintain (and possibly enhance) competition in the market. AT&T's offer includes a premium based on the monopoly value of eliminating a competitor, and that offer value should not automatically be the deciding factor in the Justice Department's review and approval (not the FCC - who might pipe in some concerns) of this combination.

It makes good sense from the consumer standpoint if there would be 3 major competitors in the market rather then effectively only two if this goes through.

However, given the rubber stamps that most recent anti-competitive mergers have gotten for the last several years (like the most recent airline combinations - totally anti-competitive but approved), I would not bank on it not being approved.

And even if not approved, AT&T could and most likely appeal the ruling - and the courts have a history of overruling instances when Justice had not approved a merger. That would of course give us some more time, but that might be all.
[myTouch 4G General] erickdj:
Just read the news that all 3G t-mobile phones will need to be replaced once the merger takes place. That really sucks, we basically have another year to enjoy our mt4g's and then it's game over. The way I see it things are playing out to only have verizon & at&t as the only big players, since sprint probably won't make it on its own and may even end up bought out by verizon. Both verizon & at&t have horrible pricing and data caps, thing's aren't looking too good for the future. Guess who seats (or used to seat) on at&t's board? Carlos Slim, the richest guy in the world, who happened to increase his wealth tremendously by scamming and extorting the people of mexico with his telefone(landline & cell) monopoly. Get ready to empty your wallet every month just to pay your cell phone bill!
[myTouch 4G General] erickdj:
check this out: http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Unauthorized+Smartphone+Tetherers+Get+Ultimatum+from+ATT/article21167.htm that's just another thing we have to look forward to from at&t.

http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Una...erers+Get+Ultimatum+from+ATT/article21167.htm threatening letters from at&t for those who tether their phones without an "authorized" plan.
[myTouch 4G General] Daguse:
Damn it... I liked t-mo cause they don't kill your data usage like AT&T or Verizon does.... This sucks...

All **** we are going to lose WIFI calling arnt we? GD it this really does suck.
[myTouch 4G General] I Am Marino:
As I said earlier, Sprint is on the hotseat.

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[myTouch 4G General] erickdj:
More like on the "endangered species" list.

I renewed my t-mo contract in January of this year, add another year before the merger is finalized, then maybe a few more months until there's actual changes to the billing/services we currently get. So I might make it to, or close to the end of my 2 year contract with t-mo, then if things don't look too good I'll jump ship to verizon, sprint, or prepaid if there's a good option there.
[myTouch 4G General] iBustCh3rries:
I'm writing an angry letter to both T-Mobile and AT&T.... here is what I got so far

Dear AT&T-Mobile,

Suck my balls....

That's all have so far, if anyone wants to add to it please feel free....
[myTouch 4G General] I Am Marino:
Put as a fair trade off, release T Mobile girl to my possession.

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[myTouch 4G General] jjdill:
Cricket here I come. I would rather have slow internet than a data cap. 2gb? I use that in a week.
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
TMo 3g frequecies

Faux wrote over in the development thread (getting real quiet over there since the AT&T announcement) that he did not think AT&T would kill the 1700 frequency. I respectfully (have you tried his kernels yet - do so) disagree with that.

AT&T's networks are overloaded, and they will be getting TMo's to supplement it. I don't think it would take a lot for them to change the 3G frequencies to only AT&T's. What they want is bandwidth - not another frequency.

This will all be determined by their marketing people and bean-counters setting out the most profitable course for them in the short term as will as the long term. In the meantime, expect to see nothing but totally bull-**** assurances by them and TMo.

PS - went over to look at the Atrix 4G forum development section - depressing looking future - nothing like over here. At least for now, it looks like APN hotspot tethering is working, but who knows for how long.
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
That's going to be hard to do since they will be busy on our back sides with the rapeage...
[myTouch 4G General] erickdj:
I was hoping that at&t would keep the current t-mo frequencies in use, but they won't, there was an article on the yahoo homepage with a statement from at&t about reconfiguring the t-mo towers for their own usage. we're screwed....
[myTouch 4G General] Don_Perrignon:
Not happy.
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/21/att-intends-to-use-t-mobiles-aws-spectrum-for-lte/

Well yea. That's why they want their towers. It's cheaper to buy a company and retrofit the frequencies to work properly, than it is to set up new towers all over town.

This is going to boil down to one of three things, pending it passes the DOJ and FCC.

1) we get new phones from ATT, locked down bootloaders and no side loading apps.

2) we move to a new company and get stuck with CDMA crap.

3) hey. we can always use stupid phones.
[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
There is a guy i know that got out of his at&t contract by saying the new place he works has no coverage, so they suspend his contract and can leave. And his contract, after like 18 months the contract goes away.
[myTouch 4G General] erickdj:
Sadly those are looking like our only choices with this merger. Let's see how this plays out in the next year or so.
[myTouch 4G General] Don_Perrignon:
Locked down bootloaders as in no flashing custom ROMs?
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
Forget that, we cannot even side load applications. That is why someone @ Android Central had to create a Windows based Application side loader. So we can still do it.

at least Verzion and Sprint lets you do that.
[myTouch 4G General] I Am Marino:
Not being able to side load apps is awful.

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[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
Even if u root? Custom roms...

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/03/will-t-mobile-customers-will-have-to-replace-phones-after-merger-completes/#
[myTouch 4G General] :
Yes u can. I think they are referring to the "out of box" functionality being removed.

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[myTouch 4G General] :
XDA POST OF THE DAY.

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[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
most of Motorola's phones have a locked bootloader on them. Which we will not be able to add alot of custom options like we can now. their are several hoops one must jump through and THEN you cannot run truly home baked goodness on your phone. Their are custom ROMS out there for the DroidX and droid 2 but nothing like what is out their now for the Nexus 1, Nexus S, Dream, Magic.
[myTouch 4G General] 2Noob4U:
Ahh... There are so many dead spots in Colorado with AT&T. Their service here sucks particularly in the mountains.

Big Red can have my business again. They are so freaking expensive it's ridiculous. I have an unlimited plan with everything and they are still cheaper than Verizon.

I'd rather pay more for good service than knowingly get horrible service with AT&Turd.