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[EVO 4G General] mlin:
To all the naysayers- why are you even wasting your time in this thread. If you are not interested, or think it is a bad idea then fine, you are entitled to your opinion. But why enter the thread just to be confrontational? I don't get it...

Anyhow, I will donate $10 to get this working. When development actually gets off the ground, that may be incentive to donate more, but I'll say $10 for now.
[EVO 4G General] jcalba89:
Cause we can post our opinion.
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
...and clog the thread that we would like to see some development take place in until it gets closed from all the juvenile repetitious bullsh__

Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G General] billslost:
Just to confirm - I've been running DeepBlue's 3.0 build on my Nook Color. It runs very smoothly considering that it's based off an SDK. I suspect that when an AOSP build is released that it will run like butter on the Nook Color.

My Nook Color performs at roughly the same level as my Evo. From a purely performance standpoint I think HC would be just fine on the Evo.

As to this thread ... I would LOVE WP7. Those that are naysayers remind me of Apple users. "We don't want choice. Just give us more iOS." I don't get it.

Android's success was built off the fact that users were given choice. More choices is always preferable (IMO) to less choices. Having come from WinMo I loved that my first introduction to Android was on a port for the Touch. I then ran Android on my Touch Pro 2. Loved having the ability to use either WinMo 6.5 OR Android depending on what I was doing.

From my experience WP7 excels at doing things that phones should do (calls, emails, texts, etc). Android excels at doing everything else (customization, large app library, etc).
[EVO 4G General] jlechner:
This is the type of person you should all be ignoring. Stay on topic people.
[EVO 4G General] lakers1624:
While i admit you got a laugh out of me, lets try to keep things civil.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
um to correct you... it was never stated that this would be a development thread there happens to be a difference between a project thread and dev thread
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
if im an idiot and, i have moved on...

does that make anyone who also moves on an idiot?

or

and again miranda this is a project thread... i am not a developer... ive stated that before....

and if iphonematt found something, well good for him let him do what he pleases he did a lot of ACTUAL work not unlike most of the users here that only come on to complain and insult.
[EVO 4G General] miranda916:
You're right. You are not an idiot until I prove you are an idiot with evidence. This I will do now.

You cannot spell. Just look at the title of this thread. Also, many of your posts do not have proper spelling or grammar.

Your OP is filled with nonsense. No one cares about a meaningless Kirf. Myn is not devving for this. You are not a tester. Echoside is not even remotely interested in this project.

Also, you are an idiot for thinking i was calling you an idiot for "moving on". Who said anything about that? I surely didn't.

You are an idiot for thinking i was questioning Matt's credibility. I was not. I've read his posts and he seems legitimately determined to complete this project. He also seems very intelligent and extremely capable of completing this miracle. This last point may not have been adressed to me, so if not, I apologize in advance. But only on this point.

Case closed :)
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
oh my god.. I think I'm in love..
[EVO 4G General] lakers1624:
... You have put your argument in such an eloquent fashion. We need more people like you on xda. I applaud you for telling it like it is. Brava.
[EVO 4G General] miranda916:
Awww you guys are so sweet :)
[EVO 4G General] NxNW:
I don't know why I'm even posting in this thread, but goodandevo.net ran a blurb today about this XDA thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1081871 (EDIT: link in their OP is broken- go to http://www.wp7android.com/ to find out more) where they are bringing a lot of the WP7 UI to the Evo. And the project seems to have produced usable output you can run today.

Even though that thread has been around since May 16 I didn't see any mentions here so I figured it just throw it out there.

Every once in a while someone bumps this thread to the top of the pile and I just have to peek in out of morbid curiosity. I honestly cannot tell if this is some kind of Turing test to see how little stimulus is required to sustain a conversation about total vapor or what. I have so much to say about this fascinating thread but really none of it is positive and I actually agree if you don't have anything positive to contribute you should probably keep it to yourself.

If there really are any people actually working on this, I really do wish you the best of luck.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
no one ever said your must have proper spelling.....

i havent updated because um....maybe there isn't anything big to change....

and case closed

the thread will be closed with in 24-48 hours....due to the fact of a lot of it being garbage

i never said you were criticizing matt.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
NB4ActualClose?
[EVO 4G General] lakers1624:
This is going to be closed? Lui i didnt know you were a mod! You should just delete all the "garbage" comments.
[EVO 4G General] HYDE1000:
Is there anything meaningful in that thread at all? The only thing I saw was a bunch of people saying that they wanted it to happen. Doesn't seem any different than this one.
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
I would love this. Definitely in for bounty to work on this.

I actually came from winmo and LOVE it still, still use my diamond for certain things. Only reason I bought android was to protest the way winPhone7 was being developed and locked. Woulda cost too much to switch to T-Mobile for a HD2 and destroy my family plan (I looked into it for sure, def wanted an HD2, still do).

That said, I did play with a HD7 when it came out, and it was pretty damn awesome (despite Microsoft downgrade from winmo 6.x to winPhone7)

That said, some of you amazing devs here, PLEASE, I beg, look at this. Thanks

(Playing with CM7 now, don't see the appeal at all, going back to virus's myTouch port in a minute) ;)
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
I think this would go a lot easier once sprint releases their wp7 device.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
Exactly, because when that source drops, it shouldn't be that much more different than any other port. Just a bootloader. Lol.
[EVO 4G General] Scrub Life:
I would love to see WP7 ported to the Evo.

Despite the naysayers, I know it can be done, and am slappin' down $20 for this project.
[EVO 4G General] :
Can't do much of anything without the source code. Or yea, without a bootloader.

And with Microsoft seemingly lawsuit happy lately (B&N/Android infringement claims), I'd tread lightly.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
Good point.. lol.
[EVO 4G General] arielb27:
I have no problem with folks wanting to do a Port of WP7. I don't think it's something I would do as it will be slow and have far more issues then I would like to run a normal day to day phone. That said, my view is simple.

It would be far better to have an AOSP type setup like MIUI made to run it's own UI and look and feel like the WP 7.

Or create a theme that works like the WP7 on the CM 7. It has a great area that you can put themes to it.

Also what is the app that you mainly want to see run? How is this better and can it be recreated for all that run Android?

For me I will say with my Android phone OS. I worked before very hard on the WinMo OS when I had the TP. And frankly don't think it holds a candle to what you can do with Android.

But I also don't believe you should just say hay don't do it. If you want to do it go ahead it's your choice and I don't think anyone should stand in your way.

Good luck in this new project.
[EVO 4G General] edgemaster191:
hey if anyone can get a working alpha/beta i'm all for testing, my evo isn't doing anything else at the moment but testing CM7 nightlys.... although i wouldn't be able to test phone calls/sms as it's not activated...
[EVO 4G General] empiire:
Remember, this is the XDA **developers** forum, y'know, as in, developing things? Obvious troll is obvious.

Good luck with this guys, I'd kill to run this on my Evo for fun, and to see what it's like. :)
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
The part about them being two different phones have nothing to do with this really, and that barrier has been broken before easily. Look at the roms that are from the same source on the Evo and the incredible, the G1 and the Mytouch, hell the Hero and the Mytouch. There are even ports from the Desire HD on the Evo, despite having a different SoC. There is no wp7 port right now not because of different hardware, but because of complete software support for things such as a custom bootloader to load it. When people were talking about booting Android on the HD2, people laughed at that idea. But look at it now, Android boots off the nand of the HD2, as does WP7.
[EVO 4G General] overground:
@ jcalba89: You are no longer welcome to post in this thread. Thanks for your cooperation.
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
I really don't like this 'Android is better and WP7 is a dead OS so why bother with it' notion. An attitude like that smacks of snobbery.

The whole point of Android, and specifically rooting, is opening up your phone to choices and the freedom to be something different. WP7 is a nice OS and has many interesting ideas. It would be great if this port happened, even better if we had some sort of Rom that took the best ideas out of it and incorporated them in Android. Look at MIUI - its a fantastic rom. It took a lot of work so we probably won't have that anytime soon though.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
If we could even port over the LOCKSCREEN I would be happy. Personally, I think it looks bad ass. And I've seen people make their own transparent wallpapers to go along with it. (To see everything update like widgets, etc.)

Just a thought lol.
[EVO 4G General] jcalba89:
Still nothing?
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
The closest there is probably Samsungs lockscreen.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
Yeah, they really cheaped out on that one lol.
[EVO 4G General] jlechner:
Really makes me want to learn more about "dev-ing"

I wouldn't even know where to start lol.

I love you!
[EVO 4G General] wdfowty:
For this project, you'd need skills in reverse engineering, asm, c/c++ and a lot of patience. The best way to start is to compile a program, then disassemble it and try to "translate" what you see with the source you just compiled. Beyond that, it just takes experience (which comes with practice).

Even if you don't end up working on this project, RE is always a good skill to have. It's something I'm working on learning as well.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
I was just thinking the same thing lol.
[EVO 4G General] Igotsanevo4g:
Whoever decides to attempt this (if it ever happens) will be trolled like no other anyways. Kinda sad considering that this is a cool idea :/
[EVO 4G General] lakers1624:
If a respected developer around here picks this up, then I do not believe they will be trolled.
[EVO 4G General] Elbimster:
I've been a smart phone user since 2005. Started with a "UTStarcom" (aka, HTC) PPC6600 (still the best phone i've ever owned, IMO), spent the next 5+ years in the world of Windows Mobile. I moved to the Evo and Android in November when my Touch Pro 2 died and I figured i'd try something different. Plus I liked the 4G and front facing camera.

Having spent a few months with Android, my reactions are "meh" and "I miss Windows Mobile". I will happily put in $25 to whoever gets this working, and if at the time I can spare any more I happily will!

Would love to see this on here.
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
miphonematt for $100

I'm in for $100!

Why so much you might ask... well it's like this... I can either donate 100 bucks to the genius(s) that get it ported, or I spend far more than that on a WP7 device that I'll only use 10% of the time (I'm not going to waste my upgrade on a WP7 device no matter how intrigued I am). It would probably save me 400 dollars or more.

Now, I'm also going to say this... the likelihood of this happening I'm afraid is not very high. There are only a small handful of developers on XDA that truly have the skillset required to make this happen in a reasonable amount of time (if it were a stable port 2 years from now, how interested would you still be). I feel that I am a very talented developer... but the fellow cotulla (sp?) that ported WP7 to the HD2 (I think there was another contributor to the success as well) runs freakin circles around me... he's incredibly brilliant.

If we managed to get the Bounty up past $2k... that might turn the tables... and lure in someone from that small handful I spoke of.

I'd really like to see this ported... I love the live tiles and transitions. Beautiful. I don't know as if an app that mimics the functionality very well would be feasible with the available android framework... it'd take some serious serious SERIOUS framework modding to make an Android version of the nice things about WP7 a reality.

Dual booting Android GB and WP7... that'd be a killer combo IMHO.

So come on ya'll... let's get some love in this bounty... that's the only way this'll ever happen. And just think about it in terms of how I do... it saves you from having to buy a WP7 phone!!!
[EVO 4G General] Deeveeance:
You sir, have the right attitude!
[EVO 4G General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Check out Launcher 7 in the market. It is a WP7 launcher and it keeps getting better day by day. Has live tiles, animations, and he just added the WP7 top bar yesterday.

You can also add wigets to the tiles. It has replaced LP and ADW for me and it keeps getting better while giving you a WP7 launcher feel on Android.

Check out these two threads about the launcher......

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=978615

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=982541
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
in for 20.

would love to see this happen.
[EVO 4G General] jlechner:
Is anyone keeping a list of the "b" word? If so, put me down for $100 as well.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
yeah. for everyone in this thread we are at about 275

435 including both threads.
[EVO 4G General] Crossrocker:
Didn't a couple devs sign up for this..? There should be a list in the op that's updated frequently so that when website have enough devs, we can set em up together and they can get to work. Also there should be a donation list. This isn't gonna work without organization .. think cm wiimax thread.

Also, op should have mentioned that it isn't against the rule to get wp7 without a lisence because the hd2, which doesn't have a lisence, got it.

Just trying to help, I hope we can get this working and then a few more roms pop up

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
I agree that more organization is needed and we need everyone's b*s in one place to be split among several cooperative and willing developers.

Also I haven't donated to anything before but if I get working video playback (youtube and web, NOT Netflix but BONUS if it happens!) and a working camera then I will gladly put in a $30 b* and of course more if I can when it comes to fruition.

Hate to ask for so much this early but I use those two things constantly throughout any given day.

I suppose if I can play games WITH sound and earn the achievement points on my xbl account that would get $20 without problems... as long as dual boot is relatively painless :-D

THANKS to all the interested devs and donors, I can't wait to see progress made on this port!

Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
Well, I was actually surprised at how well this works. It is better than I had expected. It's still not the same, but as you said it's getting better day by day, so it's definitely something to keep an eye on or use until we get a WP7 port.

I like that I saw another Sign Up for $100. That's the way to make it happen. I'm curious why everyone is avoiding the "B" word... I skimmed through the rules again and didn't see anything discounting the use of that word. Am I missing something?
[EVO 4G General] jlechner:
We cant have a list. Against rules. I guess if we reworded it, that might work.
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
I agree! And I wish I could do it, hopefully others can. That will definitely spark some interest!

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[EVO 4G General] Sean-El:
Lol @ short story.
[EVO 4G General] neodorian:
And that right there is the entire spirit of the open source and independent development community. People like a challenge and people like options.

I've played around with the whole "hackintosh" thing on my home workstation. Sure, I don't *need* it for anything but I think it's cool that people have figured out how to do it and it was fun to play with.

Stuff like this can be a learning experience for the folks who do the porting. It can be a fun experiment for the people who install it. It can be a way to give the official developers of Android or WP7 or whatever some ideas on how to improve their software through seeing how people use it.

So yeah, I'm not really pressed for them to do this but it would certainly be cool. I think it will be a lot harder because while you can freely and legally port AOSP to whatever you want, WP7 is not open so chances are any decompiling, reverse engineering, and modification will be in violation of some license and annoy the owners of the code.

One thing you never want to do is rag on someone for wanting to take on a project or a challenge. If they feel like trying then who cares? Tinkering and screwing around with this stuff is a great hobby and learning experience for a lot of people.
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
Already up to 435 dollars! Awesome

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[EVO 4G General] Crossrocker:
I do not think its gonna be possible to ever get wp7. I'm not a dev but i thought for a while and believe that it is just not possible; xbl on an evo just.. doesn't sound possible. Not a rant. Just a thought

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
[EVO 4G General] rushco:
I do think it's gonna be possible to get wp7. I'm not a dev but i thought for a while and believe that it is possible; xbl on an evo just.. sounds possible. Not a rant. Just a thought
[EVO 4G General] Leoisright:
I agreement this sounds like a great idea. But also like a post said earlier, there needs to be organization in any thread to make it work.

If you really want to make this happen, take this bounty and go buy a wm7 phone and donate to a reliable dev who can assemble such a team with server ready website. Get the software out of the phone, something. Its great so many people are wishing to see this, but wishing to win the lottery without playing gets you a zero chance.

Now, if it was presented to buy a wm7 phone and servers, c++ devs helping, this may intrigue the right dev to take it up. It wont be about the money as much as the bragging rights it got done.

Check out a true development thread, people are actually communicating about lib files, smali files, kernel swapping, drivers and you will then notice progress.

A structured thread with devs and software will get you further.

Just a thought. I'm pretty good with windows and have installed Linux back in 96 when it was a ***** to load on any computer, so it can be done. Remember when Linux would only work with a handful of video cards? Now we can dual boot window and linux on any pc and run Linux complete on a phone. This would be like running Microsoft on the phone and using Skype. Trial by error my friends and one hellova developer writing drivers.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
just read my emails and you guys will not believe this. myn wants to be part of the dev team to take this on. go ahead and update the thread and hopefully we can get this going.

i also have a thread at android central.
[EVO 4G General] Leoisright:
If Myn is in, he would be one to buy a phone to port from. I would trust myn for sure.
[EVO 4G General] jlechner:
Ha, I just pm'd him about this too. Funny.
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
Awesome News!

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[EVO 4G General] lakers1624:
I am truly excited about this now ! My favorite developer is getting involved!! Yay!
[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
this is what we needed. just one actual dev with a modicum of interest.

I would have been unwilling to donate before any work was actually done, but with at least one good dev publicly "on board", I would be willing to donate to his efforts sight unseen. especially myn. even to be told "it can't be done", as long as a good 'ol college try was made.

Sent from my calculator watch.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
Damn I was starting to worry. Myn's rom is the only non aosp rom that I've ran. Good developer = stable rom lol.
[EVO 4G General] lakers1624:
Myn's Warm 7
[EVO 4G General] samsonite.ace:
Agreed count me in for at least 20 with Myn as Dev

not to be impatient but lets get on this already, has anyone heard progress on booloader?

i feel like that and the Arrive's OS drivers would be the kicker
[EVO 4G General] mrlamar09:
yes yes yes i second. that motion myn n devs lets get it lol
[EVO 4G General] wdfowty:
Lol, that was clever ;)
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
Nice!

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[EVO 4G General] lui22:
If myn wants to be part of this he is more then welcome to the official team I will update op as soon as I have confirmation that he will join.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
No that we have an actual wp7 device amung our arsinal of potential code doners we can do some plastic surgery
[EVO 4G General] tek818:
Have to admit... like many, at first, I thought this was a foolish idea and a waste of time.

Fast-forward to today, past the EVO 3D announcement; having my EVO transformed into a WP7 device, while also having the EVO 3D sounds like a f'n great idea!
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
I was thinking Windroid7? I like yours too though. :)
[EVO 4G General] taadow1030:
Great name!
[EVO 4G General] :
Don't put the cart before the horse.

Still need to even get it booted before you can do ROM work. :cool:
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
Will this be the official website where the ROM is posted? Or will it be somewhere else?
[EVO 4G General] lakers1624:
I hope we hear official confirmation from myn soon.
[EVO 4G General] myn:
Hey guys,

Some of you may know I started out in the Windows Mobile world, Creating Android roms for devices that weren't designed to run Android natively. This is exactly the reverse.

When I saw the HD2 had figured out how to run WinPhone 7 I was pretty stoked and hoped eventually we could bring the development forces to be together to figure this out on our EVO's.

I am going to talk to dzo who is a legend in the WinMo/Android world and is responsible for the success of Android on Windows Mobile devices. I'll also be talking to my fellow peers in #TeamWin and see if they are interested as well.

As this is a huge undertaking, I'd encourage other developers to join in on this too.
[EVO 4G General] latoso:
Put me down for 50
[EVO 4G General] fr0st420:
$50 here too. If Myn is in ill donate if we get a working port.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Myn is in and I want him to lead the devoplemnt what do you guys say

Sent from my future WP7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] wanfaltm:
I think that's a splendid Idea, if anyone can do it Myn can.
[EVO 4G General] jxr94:
Lol let the Dev's decide who runs what so there are no internal conflicts. All that said, WP7 would be cool to try even though we all know Android>WP7 XP
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
We are not porting XP to our evos lol

Sent from my future WP7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] jc1337:
I'm not a huge fan of WP7 but I do always support moving forward and if this gives my phone yet another option of something to run then I fully support it. I will donate to any dev that gets this up and running as a daily driver on the HTC Evo 4G