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[G2 and Desire Z General] mikeatron:
howdy from texas guys,

I'm on cm7 build 26 but this has happened on miui builds too... every so often, and it happens quite a bit, ill be browsing online and the screen shakes and moves around randomly. This makes it impossible to read forums since it's so shaky. Closing out the browser doesn't help. I think the screen is super sensitive whenever it gets like this because I can press buttons on screen without touching the screen simply by hovering my finger over the button. I find that the only thing that alleviates it is to lock the screen and unlock again.. but even that is temporary at times.

So, any thoughts on the problem? I also have the otterbox case on if that matters.

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z General] deliriousDroid:
It's probably just a cm7 bug. Just flash the next nightly and see.

Sent from my SilverBullet "HTCDesireZ running CM7"
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kevin001111:
he already said he also had the problem on MIUI...... so its obviously not cm7 causing the problem. But, back to your question. you say that you can press buttons without pressing the screen? well, thats freakin impossible because the screens can ONLY react to he touch of a human, something with heat or something like that. if its occuring on both roms i would say its your G2. I have never experienced this problem on my G2 tho...
[G2 and Desire Z General] deliriousDroid:
Oops, skipped right over that. I was just thinking over to the cm7 nightly thread, just recently they were discussing something that sounds very similar.

Sent from my SilverBullet "HTCDesireZ running CM7"
[G2 and Desire Z General] mikeatron:
i assure you it's possible. all i have to do is make a motion like im pressing the button on screen but stop before i actually touch the screen and it will activate/press the button without me touching the screen. this doesnt happen as often... the shaking screen happens quite a bit and the no-touch button pressing happens only when the screen goes out of control but doesnt always occur.
[G2 and Desire Z General] deliriousDroid:
The force is strong in this one. Hmmm?

Sent from my SilverBullet "HTCDesireZ running CM7"
[Nook Color General] Shyatic:
Hey all,

I haven't had any experience with the Nook, but I'm in the market for a simple tablet that has some apps for kids, as well as the ability for me to put movies on it. I can either buy an iPad which is more expensive but definitely does what I want, or I can get the Nook and hook that up in the car.

My son is almost 2 years old, and we take a lot of day trips so I want something to occupy his time while we're driving. Either he can watch a movie, or play games, or whatever... I'm open for ideas. I have two kids, so ultimately this will be needed for both kids; either to watch movies or play games, and I will probably mount it off of the headrest.

Thanks for any ideas folks, I'm open for anything, just want to know if I'm wasting my time looking at the Nook for my kids (when it's rooted) or if I should just save a few bucks more and get the iPad.

Thanks!
[Nook Color General] bomber889:
I'd say get the ipad even though I hate apple. I say get the ipad because of the many games found in the app store and the simplicity of playing on it out of the box. ITunes is relatively easy to use and to put music/movies on it. Even though you'll have to pay for them unless you find other methods. I say don't choose the nook because it is an e reader. Although xda has made the nook pretty much into a tablet, the ipad will out perform the nook in almost every way. Also the ipad 2 has cameras which your kids im sure would enjoy. The ipad is easier to use for younger kids or maybe just in general. Hope this helps
[Nook Color General] Coldboot:
My son just turned 4 and does fine playing Angry Birds or Monkey Kick Off and watching videos on the Nook while in his carseat. I know you said you were going to mount it on the headrest, but one thing to note is that the Ipad might be a little big if your 2-year old needs to balance it in his lap while playing touchscreen games or needs to pick it up to use the accelerometer. On the other hand, there are a couple great games on the Apple store that haven't made it to the Android Market (my son loves a certain monster truck game on his mom's Ipod) yet but I don't think this is a big drawback since there are already a lot of others to pick from and they'll eventually make their way over.

If I had to buy two that might end up gettting knocked around and dropped on the car floor, I'd definitely get a pair of Nooks.
[Nook Color General] cowballz69:
2 year old ipad would be a bit big, get him a itouch instead
[Nook Color General] psychoace:
The only reason I would say no to the iPad is because for a two year old a 9 in screen might be to big. You might want to look for another tablet that is 7in but has a less restrictive OS. Archos Dell creative Samsung and others all have 7 in tablets
[Nook Color General] Double C:
iPad for ease of use.
[Nook Color General] danger-rat:
Your wallet will thank you, if you get the Nook Color.

Your kid will thank you, if you get the iPad.

I would go with the iPad, unless your kid is into Android and tweaking things... xD
[Nook Color General] A. Nonymous:
I would not give a 2 year old a $200 or a $400 toy. I have nightmare visions of said kid smashing said toy.
[Nook Color General] xdabr:
Now that we have the Nook Color I recently went looking for educational apps for Android -- DAMN there are slim pickings!

And I wasn't even limiting myself to "tablet-ready" apps.

You'll really have to get the iPad (or iPad Touch as suggested above).

Unless... hmm, I wonder if ordinary Linux game / educational apps run in Android; a few of those are decent.
[Nook Color General] boingboingbilly:
Another vote for iPad. The kids app selection is better, but here are two other reasons why:

- the kids apps for android tend to be free and ad driven, free is good but ads are bad because...

- the android market STILL does not require a password to purchase apps.

I cannot tell you the number of times my daughters have accidentally hit an ad in a game and then ended up buying the linked app while pressing buttons trying to get back to the game they were playing. Now with the added Google penalty of 15 minute refunds there is a huge possibility of getting screwed. One of my daughters bought LogMeIn for 29.99 and I couldnt get a refund!

Yes, you can root and use an ad blocking app and you can use yet another app to password protect the market app - it is still an issue to the point where I have to constantly check to make sure they are still in their game or book. The iPhone and iPad do not present this issue because they require a password to make purchases - novel idea.
[Nook Color General] minotauri:
i'd say IPAD... but thats kind of a pricey "toy" for a little toddler isnt it?

that said, the children's books in full color and voice narratives on nook app is really neat.
[Nook Color General] pwlorraine:
Both are somewhat delicate and I'd be concerned about letting a 2 year old hold either unsupervised. iPad is beautiful and intuitive though with a number of kid friendly apps. Again - I'm assuming an adult will be keeping an eye on things. This should be mom's or dad's ipad that the kid uses under supervision.

When my son was 2 years old his fingers were endlessly messy - saliva, food, dirt, etc. Get a screen protector.

I think this is too much for a 2 year old on their own - I doubt they will appreciate this over a lot of simpler toys or distractions. If I were to spend the money on a 2 year old - I'd put it in a college fund, or set aside for some activities to spend time together as a family. Playing with mom or dad's ipad occasionally makes more sense to me.

Restricting the use to a back seat video player might work - no touching.

Peter
[Nook Color General] kent c:
2 is a bit young for a device like that. I did give mine a DSi when he was 2. It still works fine and he's 4 now.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Funny, i was thinking something like this as well. Frankly, for a 2 year old, neither device. A 2 year old will have no problem smashing either, and that even goes for when you think it might be safely mounted in a car mount.
[Nook Color General] timmyjoe42:
I'd buy a kid that young a Leapster 2 instead of a touch device. All of the games are educational and my kids have loved playing it from ages 2.5 - 7. My 7 year old likes his Nintendo DS more now, for obvious reasons. The tablets aren't much use to someone who can't read. You have to show them and they have to memorize all the buttons to hit. I try and let my kid play games on my phone and the next thing I know he is launching apps all over the place.

The nook is a little bit more complicated to get around on than a typical tablet because of the setup, unless you put CM7 or Froyo on it. Just rooting the basic OS, while the most stable, is a little confusing to navigate, especially if you aren't using Soft Keys.

I'd probably recommend getting one of the Samsung touch devices if you want to stick with Android.

Also, you might base your decision on the number of apps available for you. There isn't much point in buying device A if all the apps you want only run on device B.
[Nook Color General] quikt:
I have both an ipad and nook color. they both have their pros and cons.

the nook is cheaper and has a smaller screen. i find it great for carrying around with me either by hand or in my laptop bag. video playback is not 100% on any of the custom roms.

ipads are coming down in price. larger screen. not too convenient to carry around. video playback is 100%.
[Nook Color General] cshehan:
I would give my vote for the ipad, just because there's so much more educational stuff for it. I have both and the ipad is in an otterbox commuter case to help keep it from getting trashed by the little ones. I would be worried about the nook in any of the cases available right now.
[Nook Color General] A. Nonymous:
I have a 1.5 year old niece. I've let her play with my NC before, but always, always, always supervised. Love that kid to death, but if she busted my Nook I would kill her. My other niece is 5. She plays with my Nook every once in a while basically unsupervised. I'm not worried about her throwing it or rubbing grimy fingers all over it like her younger sister might.
[Nook Color General] xdabr:
Really, boingboingbilly? That's terrible. But if there are locking apps available, are you saying they don't really work?

It's like they permanently deployed Amazon One-Click buying?

I guess that's an argument against enabling the Market at all! Or using it with a very low balance disposable credit card number...
[Nook Color General] mariel9898:
Another vote for a more age appropriate device like the Leapster 2. Or maybe just a DVD player. Something much sturdier than an iPad or a Nook.

Plus, if you are buying your 2 year old a $500 plus gadget what is he going to be demanding when he's 12?.
[Nook Color General] luigi90210:
i vote ipad if he is going to play games/learn through children apps or if your kid wants to be read to than i vote for the nook color because that feature will help you out when it comes to reading books to your kid

both devices are good but it really depends on the features you will be using

sure the nook has games when rooted but it doesnt have as many as an ipad and it isnt as simple to use as an ipad
[Nook Color General] AZImmortal:
For a two year old, I'll have to go with an Ipad. There are way more educational games for IOS than for Android.
[Nook Color General] Nitro_123:
I'd say go for an iTouch 4G
[Nook Color General] dalkor:
I vote for iPad, bigger screen - bigger fonts and buttons, less eye strain for a kid.
[Nook Color General] 360Razir:
Interestingly enough, even the Leapster 2 is rated at 'Ages 4-8', with the Tag Junior being the only one I see for ages 2 and up. So, yeah, if a Leapster 2 isn't even rated for a 2 year old, NC and iPad are probably overkill.

That being said, I do agree that an iPad, with close adult supervision, would be better than a rooted NC right now. The iPad is a "guided tour" experience, with everything presented to you and you just follow the red ropes to get around anywhere.

A rooted NC is the Wild West where anything goes and things are changing constantly, depending on the features you want out of it.

Good luck with your decision, whatever it turns out to be.
[Nook Color General] poofyhairguy:
Um, for that age group is why Nintendo makes DSes. A DS can be thrown on the ground and be fine (with no case). A iPad or Nook Color can't do that....
[Nook Color General] xdabr:
This really worries me in general -- the dearth of decent educational / gaming software of any kind speaks very poorly for the future of Android tablets.

I know that can change very quickly, and hope it will, but a cursory review of popular iPad publishers shows that NONE of them appear to be even in the PLANNING stages of Android support!
[Nook Color General] Mr.Pibb:
I think 2 is too young as well...but they certainly can figure out the interface easily at that age...

Apparently I can't post links yet, so go to youtube and search for MGMsT4qNA-c
[Nook Color General] samseh:
I let my 2.5 year old play with the Nook HC - supervised. I have made two of the desktops for for him with large 2x2 icons that are easy for a kid to click which I made using Desktop visualizer App. I have books, videos, and piano, drum apps which he can play with. I have to say it is his favorite thing to play with, besides his train set and trampoline.
[Nook Color General] Toys Samurai:
Look, your son is ALMOST 2 years old. Save your money and get a Nook Color.

Now, if it will actually be used most of the times by YOU instead of your son, that's a different matter. If you can wait for the AOSP release of HC, I will say getting the Nook Color. Honeycomb on the Nook Color is truly amazing. Even in its current "preview" form, it just won't stop to impress me. For example, I just get GPS navigation to work this weekend:

[YOUTUBE]oS0WsNNuvNA[/YOUTUBE]

My next experiment is to try getting a Bluetooth headset to work with my Nook Color.
[Nook Color General] CLMT:
I have both and my 16 month old loves my ipad. It's defiantly the way to go especially for a kid that age. Harder for them to break as well.
[Nook Color General] anonim1:
I say go with the NC too.
[Nook Color General] mrspeedmaster:
I have a 2 year old and he has an iPad as well as access to my nook color.

I have about 4 homescreens w/toddler educational apps and e-books. He has montessory apps. Apps that helped him learn to count at 27 months. He can count to 20.

He learns more w/ his iPad than the $$$$ I spend on his "pre-school" or higher learning academy.

There are counting apps, reading apps, learning numbers, geometry, etc..

The nook's screen is not as responsive as the iPad.

Furthermore, I've been able to downloads many, many PBS TV shows - Sid the science kids, George, Word World, SuperWhy, Sesame Street.

Despite the lack of flash, it is more of an educational tool w/ much, much more apps for children w/ small hands.

We tried Flash websites on a regular computer and he is always right-clicking (opening up the Flash set-up) or loses tracking.

There is something to be said w/ multi-touch and children.
[Nook Color General] A. Nonymous:
Remember the good old days when tablets weren't around. I'm sure many if not most of us grew up in households where there weren't even computers in our younger days. We didn't have a computer until I was 8 or 9 and even then the only thing the dang thing did (besides taking up an ungodly ammount of space) was play chess and do word processing. Those were the only two disks we had for it. This was back in the day when you put a disk in the computer and turned it on depending on what program you wanted to run. Yet somehow we all survived the dearth of any educational computer programs at all and made it to adulthood without becoming intellectual dullards. Well, most of us anyway.
[Nook Color General] xdabr:
A. Nonymous, the post was about the competitiveness and future of Android tablets, not the state of education. Clearly some reading comprehension work was overlooked in those good old days. :)

In the good old days ordinary consumers didn't have word processors, e-mail, or web browsing either. Do you recommend forgoing those as well? You sound a little young and entitled (many of us didn't have a computer, ever) to be shooing people off the lawn...
[Nook Color General] NCatron:
Are you f'n kidding me? The iPad taught your kid? Wow, my 22 month old can count to 20, the TV must have taught him! How did that happen!? TVs for every child!

Sorry, I just had to register for this thread, you are all insane for buying 2yo a tablet PC, even a Leapster is stretching it at this age.
[Nook Color General] xdabr:
You're forgiven for registering merely in order to vent. :) I actually partly agree with you (counting is not an impressive achievement for a 1 year old with verbal skills), but that post lacked value whereas mrspeedmaster's did not.
[Nook Color General] MedLine:
I'll second that. My two-and-a-half year old twins have been literally standing and stomping on our iPad (first gen) for the past year and the thing is practically indestructable. Lots of scratches on the glass but still chugging away. Whenever they see the iPad it they commandeer the thing, which was why I had to get myself a NC in the first place, now running CM7 nightlies.
[Nook Color General] eyecrispy:
Neither. Why does a kid so young need a device that pricey. My 8 and 6 yr olds have DSs and my 3 yr old has nothing. We have a DVD player for longer trips and they can read books. Both devices, while they have great games, is a grown up device.
[Nook Color General] mrspeedmaster:
OK. Let me clarify. The Ipad or any other devices do not teach kids anything.

However, they are tools for exploration. They spark the child's imagination to explore. My niece can do division at the age of 28 months. Yes, 28 months. She can add, subtract, multiply and do division. Unlike my kid, she doesn't go to pre-school and is home taught. Her mother only uses an iPad as a tool. The iPad didn't teach her division but as a tool, it help her mother.

My toddler is advancing very fast.The Ipad has allow him to concentrate on numbers, letters, handwriting better than any other tools we given him except the cold-morning routine. BTW, the iPad also works during the cold-morning routine as well.

All the children in our immediate family are drawn to the iPad and the applications for children are excellent and a great deal. I don't mind spending $2-4 for an app versus $24-$30 for a desktop pc app that they may get bored within 10 minutes. Plus, many of the iPad apps have trial-ware free versions.

They enjoy playing learning apps, using read-to-me books, or just general children's e-books over watching television. My son doesn't even watch tv. He only watches PBS shows I pre-screen & download and choose from iTunes.

I also use it as a reward mechanism like a chocolate fudge sundae. He has to practice his hand-writing lessons, practice his addition and subtraction for 2 hours. Then he gets to have 30 minutes worth of 'ipad' time before he goes to bed.

As for pricing, the price of the Ipad 1st gen wi-fi have dropped down $299 at Verizon. So the cost is not that big of a deal. If you can afford it, it is not that big a deal. My kids' power-wheels cost more than an iPad or NOOK.
[Nook Color General] devis:
So happy I don't have any kids or an iPad for that matter :)
[Nook Color General] tech_head:
First Gen iPad.

Verizon is selling them for $299 for 16GB while supplies last.
[Nook Color General] A. Nonymous:
Me too. I don't know which one I would rather have forced on me. Probably the iPad 'cuz selling the kids on ebay is frowned upon in our culture. No little germ factories for me.
[Nook Color General] rcsrich:
I tend to agree, but it depends on the kid. My wife has an iPad that we let our 26 month old daughter use with supervision- I think I'd recommend it over the NC (which I have, rooted) just because it is so darn simple to use. She's already figured out how to start an app and switch apps with no problem- I also think that the locked-down nature of the iPad is even better when you're worried about a kid goofing it up or downloading mass quantities of paid apps.

My two cents! :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] windroidHD:
Seems like whoever has been flashing their HD2 for T-Zones on 3G are going to loose their data plans or 3G with AT&T and T-Mobile merger.

bad news for US HD2 owners.

TMobile 3G Devices News
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Agoattamer:
The link that you direct everyone to seems to claim opposite of what you have posted.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lude219:
Read it again. It'll continue to work up until they have converted all the 1700/2100mhz spectrum to AT&T's 850/1900mhz...which will be in 2yrs' time. So by 2013 and beyond, if you still have a TmobileUS HD2, you'll be stuck with EDGE, that is if you haven't forced to upgrade to a new phone already.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 65coupei6:
How many people will still be using an HD2 in 2013? Very, very low %
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Specialk47150:
I would if it would work, but alas, it won't, lol.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lude219:
Exactly. Given the fact that the TmousHD2 had a limited run (pulled after 4-5mos?) and it didn't fair too well with the general consumers due to their inability to handle a smartphone and winmo, the people who still has a Tmous HD2 are probably those people like us here on XDA. Though it's not an absolute fact, but when you look at people's sigs on here, you'll see that they've gone through a handful of phones in a single year. :p

I don't think it's a big issue at all.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drbigtooth:
I am trying to tether my Samsung Galaxy Tablet. How do I do this? I did see

Samsung Tab wifi via Droid Wireless Tether by JMED99, but I can't find the file he is talking about in the youtubevideo called by Dave BA on xda-developers.com.

So I would be much appreciated if someone has another way to tether my tablet to my droid or if someone can give me the link to the DAVE BA file I need.

Samsung Tab wifi via Droid Wireless Tether.....Done! youtube Video Shows How!

All the credit goes to the guys at xda developers. This was performed solely on my Samsung Tablet....without a computer or my D1. The youtube video is by jmed999

Thanks
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] curtiskw:
trying to find the file i need to tether galaxy tab, its on xda developers sit some where.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] uslacson1:
Found this version of wireless tether for my fascinate that my Kyros MID7015 can connect to.

http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...tail?name=wifi_tether_v3_0-pre11.apk&can=2&q=
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] OldManJames:
oh nice if this actually makes the fascinate tether with infrastructure mode thats awesome.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] sneakysolidbake:
Awesome. I like this.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] riceman06:
Why not just use barnacle wifi?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] thefunkbot:
Because the name is rediculous. :P

EDIT: I just got this to work and it seems great! To get it to work you need to press menu while in the app and go to settings. At the top of setting press change device-profile and choose Samsung Fascinate from the list and you are good to go (atleast it was for me).
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] uslacson1:
My tablet can't connect to the market versions of Wifi Tether and Barnacle.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] OldManJames:
thats cause they use ad hoc tethering which stock android doesnt support. You need infrastructure tethering which this apparently does....although I forgot to test it last night.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] uslacson1:
Exactly, i've tried some tweaks and apps which did not work until i stumbled

on this version. Google search, best thing ever.