yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
Yes, I tried the Arrive at the store before buying it as well and was impressed. However, you really need to own the device and dig into it's functionality before you can make a complete evaluation. WM7 does many small things well. Unfortunately, it fails on too many big things to be an acceptable choice. After using WM7 for a few days, one has to ask themselves, with thousands of programmers and billions of dollars to spend, THIS is the best they can do? M$'s "development-by-committee" fails once again.

I am glad I did it because it has made me appreciate my EVO 4G with Android even more. We tend to take the flexibility and sheer power of this device for granted until we try something else and realize what we have.
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
mitchellvii,

I only want to dual boot it. There is NO WAY I'm giving up Android B-)

Mostly I just want that for another gaming device to play on. So... exactly like the iPod touch laying on my desk but with achievement points LOL. I plan to get a windows phone on eBay if this port doesn't happen, hell maybe even if it does, for that very reason.

It would be so much more badass to see our phones made capable of dual booting WM regardless tho (IMO) so that's why I'm so interested in this project.

Just *one more* bragging right to my iPhone4 buddies!

Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
Yeah that would work. The most frustrating thing about WM7 is that they came SO CLOSE to creating a really awesome, lean, fast OS, but some management idiot somewhere along the line decided they should leave out really vital features that a business phone requires. I honestly would LOVE to sit down with this joker(s) and ask him what he was thinking.

At the same time I would ask him why they seem to break all the best features of Office every time they release a new "upgrade". I'm still using Office 2003, the last version that actually worked properly.

P.S., The point of my post above is not just to bash WM7, but to share some of my firsthand experiences so that others will really know what they are getting into. Hey, if you don't care about navigation, flexibility, multi-tasking or flash then WM7 has many good features to recommend it.
[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
this may be the most eloquent statement on the subject (and general descript of our phones) to date.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Its just being courteous and there is nothing wrong with that. On another note, we gotta keep the bickering down or this thread will get closed. Anyone who has watched this thread over the past few weeks knows that there are haters that would love to see it closed. Lets not give the mods a reason to shut this down.

Tapa tapa tapa
[EVO 4G General] xlGmanlx:
Not sure if I agree as a previous comment basically rants against W7 an the whole purpose of this thread. Personally i think all this stuff is great as it doesn't lock you into a single rom hell even a single OS, for power users that is as good as it gets
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
I just sort of want a change.

Android is nice, flexibility, multitasking, and navigation included but i love the simplicity of Windows phone. My father bought the windows phone after using symbian and he absolutely loves it. When i tinkered with his phone, the transitions, the look and feel, and the overall shortage of clutter was a nice thing to look at. I am not a dev (but i sure want to be one(9th grade is holding me back.....ahem)) but i can appreciate this new design.

I saw that xxvirusxx commented and i hope he commented to actually help......this seems like its gonna happen.:cool::)
[EVO 4G General] Towleeeie9613:
This sounds very cool. And if you are to succeed, I will be one of the first to download it and flash it because this, again, sounds like a very cool prospect.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
you my friend bring up some interesting concerns. thankyou
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
Yes, there are many cool and attractive features to WM7. That's what makes me angry at M$. WM7 is like a girl with a great body and an ugly face. You appreciate the body but can you live with the face just because the body is so nice? M$ came close on this one but for some reason, decided to punt in the red zone when they could have scored.
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
That's just the problem. I simply described the manner in which WM7 functions and you consider it a "rant". My comments only sound so negative because WM7 is so flawed. I did say good things about it and also said that if the problems I pointed out don't bother you that you should give it a try. The Contacts/Calendar integration is MUCH better than Android.

If you can just pick up a WM7 and use it for the weekend and see what you think.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Like I said you do bring up interesting concerns as to how the OS works.

Now my response towards that is would and how you would want to help make what we have better?
[EVO 4G General] RileyGrant:
This thread should be about development and instead it has become a battle ground on right and wrong. Seriously, everyone needs to grow the fu*k up. This is XDA, home of the "do it because we can" attitude and anyone who disagrees with that has lost sight of what this whole community is all about in the first place.
[EVO 4G General] mikel719:
+1
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
That is called a butter face and i agree. It has many flaws but i also think that actually succeeding in this will go past the normale kernel and rom but actually have an entire new operating system working for android !!!!!!!!!:):):)

I agree
[EVO 4G General] barnacles10:
+1.

Personally, I'm not interested, at all, in WP7. However, I found it interesting that some of you might try. This thread since has turned into a chat room for nothing about the development of the rom.

Not trying to mod =P just trying to help.

If you wanna just talk about it, and have nothing to contribute to development, go here

Its horrible to come in here from time to time and check the actual progress of anything. Every 50 posts might contain one that should be here right now.
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
Take your rant somewhere else. That page began in Oct of last year.....And it is also only 11 pages long. what you have written is not contribution.

we are just looking for some more devs. MYN is on board maybe we might get this to work
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
While I don't totally disagree with you, I don't totally agree either. Part of the thread is people expressing interest which for something like this, is what justifies all the work that will be required. We also have Lui and fixxer trying to coordinate getting devs on board. BUT.... then there's everything else. I was even slightly flamed for expressing my concern about folks complaining about ETA's and lack of progress/updates. One of those people was a 9th grade kid tho... so you sort of have to expect them to be immature when you call them out for being immature.

The real issue here is that many folks that move to Android, or Linux in general have a fundamental issue with Microsoft and how they conduct business. So there are certainly going to be folks that will take issue with putting a MS product on our Linux/Android devices. They see it as blasphemy. Again, I can't say I totally disagree. For me, I use my device as a tool to run my business (read earn money) I am inclined to turn a blind eye to said blasphemy. As someone else had said, "The spirit of XDA to do it because we can" is also a great justification to make this happen.

TO Everyone else... I haven't heard back yet from Cotulla on MAGLDR and HSPL source yet. I have been tinkering an awful lot, and learning quite a bit about how NAND/bootloader "sees" the hardware. I am certain I would eventually be able to create a working bootloader, but man it'd happen a whole lot faster with that source code. There are certainly some daunting challenges in this project. But, the more difficult the challenge, the more rewarding it is to conquer!
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Agreed, perhaps this should be in "EVO General" until something is actually being developed...
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
Something is actually being developed. I already have a pseudo bootloader selection menu, and a function to output hardware addresses... which means the project is approximately 1% complete :)
[EVO 4G General] taadow1030:
I appreciate the dedication and excitement that you and others are bringing to the project. It is most refreshing. Keep up the good work!
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
have you talked to myn yet?
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
I can care less about that opinion.
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
You know, I thought I had PM'ed him, but apparently I just "spoke to him" in one of my posts in this thread.

We're still going to need more man power, or that source code. I'm not entirely certain we WILL get it (the source code). Doesn't hurt to try... hard. Even with the source code, we will still have a long road ahead of us as some of the challenges still remain, namely device drivers under WP7. I haven't fully educated myself in that realm yet as I haven't gotten to that point. That is something I'm hoping Myn will have some expertise in having come from the WM world.
[EVO 4G General] samsonite.ace:
you really arent adding anything whatsoever to this thread, not sure how u made it to a senior member....

i feel bad posting this comment cuz im basically doin the same pointless ranting like you...
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
It's based on the number of posts you have, and if you are posting nonsense any time you feel, then you can reach the required # of posts quickly. You should edit your post saying anything other than acknowledging him. He is clearly trying to stir up some crap by either starting flame wars or to get someone to report him to a mod and thus closing this thread. We need to restrain ourselves and ignore these trolls completely. It's only fun for them if we respond.

I have a PM into Myn. I would be very curious to see a head count on how many people are interested in being able to run WP7 on their EVO. Lui, are you able to post a poll in this thread asking that? Some info like that might even be helpful in bringing in some additional devs
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
Maybe we should only comment if something is a breakthrough, such as a dev on the team:cool:
[EVO 4G General] Licht_:
I will cough up $50 towards this project upon completion.
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
That's the most mature thing I've heard you say in this thread so far, maybe there is hope for you after all young man ;)

But seriously... that's exactly the mindset we should all take. Let's talk about new folks being interested. Dev's that we should coax into helping out. Articles and documentation that might be helpful. Progress and breakthroughs.... things of that nature. There is still hope for this thread to become a civilized place of group development.

Can you imagine how huge this would be in nerd news if it happened? Pardon, when it happens? The man that makes the breakthrough that hits the nail is going to gain some serious notoriety. The EVO has been one of the top selling smart phones ever... Dual booting WP7 on this device will significantly increase that.

I got a stack of phones to root on my desk so I'll probably take a break tonight. Man I really want that source for magldr and hspl so bad I can taste it!
[EVO 4G General] cdw9800:
i can add $50 if we can get this rolling i wanna try WP7 but dont wanna shell the cash or let android go
[EVO 4G General] drtwrk127:
I apologize for my childish behavior. XDA is about trying new things, and this qualifies as such. For those whom I have offended, I am sorry. Back to flashing another ROM, enjoy.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Progress....!;)

The team is common along nicely
[EVO 4G General] clark44:
Mind telling us exactly wat?
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
I wanna hear some progress
[EVO 4G General] mrlamar09:
second that
[EVO 4G General] jwoytk01:
Why do I keep getting the feeling we're all just being lead on? What progress? Why isn't there somewhere we can see updates(ie. Twitter, XDA, someones blog, etc.)?

Sent by my creepy uncle.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
so far its a work in progress
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
Sweet, a new dev:D:D:D
[EVO 4G General] a senile fungus:
How about "Project SevoN" for the name?

I think its pretty good.

Project SevoN

~ I'm a fungi
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
Like "sEVOn"? Gotcha, took a sec to get tho.... may be that it is too early still :-D

Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G General] mrrogers1:
I think it'll be pretty neat to see WP7 on our Evo's just because "we can".

I do find the Poll a little confusing though... This is the WP7 dev thread and the poll is asking if we "Want" to run other OS on our phones besides WP7:confused:

Nice working pulling the great minds together to see if this can be done!
[EVO 4G General] xrdodrx:
This. This whole thread is retarded. Real developers don't bother posting in a thread with "we're making progress" without even a video and under a variety of usernames.
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
Guys, we don't have a full team yet. There won't be tweets nor official updates until there is an official team. Please quit jumping the gun. We are months away from anything truly significant. There certainly won't be any videos posted of 1% completion... and now the ungrateful schmucks come out to ruin the positive energy we'd had started
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Launcher 7 in the market is the best you guys are going to get. They have a free version and paid version.

~ d3rk
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
I've been a software engineer for 15 years and I've never posted a video of incomplete work. You are ridiculous. Cotulla posted a video when it was booting and working.... we are just getting started
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
They've been here since the beginning.

Not sure what joy they derive from their insignificant *****ing and berating but we've gotta ignore it as best we can.

You think it's bad now wait 'till this thing boots! LOL #fanboys

Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G General] clark44:
Keep up the good work team sEVOn
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
looks like our asian counterparts beat us to it backwards?!?!?!?! read the OP

always read the OP there might be subtle changes that you need to know about

like hyperlinks and what not
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Thats real, but then again they're asian what did you expect lol! It looks like they got the chinese version of the sense 2.0 ruu going. :D
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
I don't get it. Android has been around for years now, and now they choose to run android on their devices? Why didnt they get one before? It isnt the same situation where some evo users got their phones before wp7 came out.....
[EVO 4G General] enyce9:
Keep up the good work guys, ignore the negativity...
[EVO 4G General] DonSolo:
Im not gonna lie... I dislike the W7 UI. But I would like to see this complete just to say it was done! Just to show the real sheer power and flexibility of the Evo and Android OS!

I would like to try it out once its finalized and stable. My dad has an Ipunk and HD2 so I wanna make him DOUBLE mad lol
[EVO 4G General] Igotsanevo4g:
Whoever knows chinese should translate and post this on a chinese developer site. They would have it done in a few weeks lol.

Or maybe Japanese? Considering they have evo's there? Nevermind, there isnt a japan anymore.
[EVO 4G General] ninoriff:
+1 YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] jwoytk01:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Na44-qBtY8M&rel=0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3

For some reason the OP link never workedfor me. Thought I'd post the vid again in case others couldn't see it.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
Ok so this is possible! TOOT TOOT!
[EVO 4G General] Leoisright:
Doesn't even seem to be the evo for one. Only saw 3 buttons on the bottom.

I have the same sense running on my evo too. And its actually sense 2.1. Running gingerbread sense that XHausx and Tmartin have here in xda with a ton of stuff ported over.

So far, wifi, data, gsensor, mms, sound, Mic, work fine. Just need the hotspot, Bluetooth, and gps working to be stable for a daily.
[EVO 4G General] jwoytk01:
It's not the evo. It's the HD7 running Android. It's the reverse of what's being attempted here.

Sent by my creepy uncle.
[EVO 4G General] Nutzy:
Yeah.. I didnt understand that either. Maybe its if you can run Android on an HD7, why cant you run WP7 on an Android? I still think the reference however is reversed.
[EVO 4G General] Stalte:
@OP video. Not impressed. They ported android to the Iphone and there is no project for porting IOS to our Evo.

Now the fact that they ported sense makes it totally fake. If it was straight aosp thats another story.
[EVO 4G General] skndeep102:
Why does it being sense make it fake? They ported sense to the HD2
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
The whole point of me putting that up there was to motivate us to work harder not to argue about it...? If they can reverse what we want to do shouldn't we be able to do it better and in Drive not reverse?
[EVO 4G General] runningwarrior08:
Well the main problem with that is WP7 is not open source like Android, so there task is a bit easier... Because they got Sense is what impresses me, that for the most part is closed source.

I am all for this to happen, my mconcern is the 3d will come out when this will be close and it will lose interest :(

I say thank you and good Luck devs, we all know you have the talent to do it!
[EVO 4G General] bigslanki:
Ummmm im lost with the closed source part. hTC hardware+htc sense easy, driver issues maybe but when has there ever been a problem getting company brewed os to run on a company device? Now if it was motoblur or sony x10 etc then maybe just maybe people would look more into it.

Any won remeber the original sense aka Hero? Not talking about the phone either. Jesusfreke,heroC, cyanogen the dev lords
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
Lui is going to have an interesting read when he checks his PMs. I checked the posts this morning after being up until 4am working on our beloved bootloader situation and found a bunch of negative comments. Already cranky, I was pretty angry reading those. I never sent the message so now that I'm not all heated about it, I wrapped up the message in a lighter tone. I had actually thought I would become angry again after coming to check the posts, I was pleasantly surprised.

Thank you guys for the positivity. I really feed on positive energy, I drives me and gives me motivation... to work on it again until 4am!!!! lol!

I wish I had some good news about hearing from Cotulla to deliver, but unfortunately I don't. I'm not giving up hope tho... I'm sure that guy is crazy busy doing something ingenius at this very moment.

I personally find the humor in Lui's OP with the "kirf video", it's actually rather clever if you think about it. Anyhow, I laughed
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
Hell yeah bro keep going!!
[EVO 4G General] Nutzy:
Its like making a plane out of my kitchen sink.... just wrap a plane around it right? No soo easy....
[EVO 4G General] Royvin:
I would love to see WP7 running on my EVO, I wish the best of luck and would be more than happy to donate when you guys get it working!
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
guys hit that thanks button on miphonematt's posts he has been working very hard so just thank him!!!:o:D:cool:;):)
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
whats with all the people wanting to put ice cream on their phones and run with it???;)
[EVO 4G General] TorxT3D:
count me in for $10 towards wp7 for evo.

i am a known donator, so this reply is genuine. kthxbye.
[EVO 4G General] taadow1030:
Just think: after the project has been completed, I'll bet the naysayers will be flashing the port before the supporters get the chance (quietly of course)!
[EVO 4G General] :
Exactly. You'll see the page views skyrocket afterwards.
[EVO 4G General] clamknuckle:
Good luck with this devs, sounds awesome. Might even breathe some new life into the EVO after the 3D launches.
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
Does anyone own, or know of anyone that would be willing to let me borrow their HD2 or HTC WP7 device? I'd be more than happy to pay for shipping, and I'd return it in the same condition in which I received it.

I'd really like to avoid having to go out and buy one, and there is some information that I simply can't find on the interweb. I will make sure you are credited for your contribution of course. PM me and I'll shoot you my cell number so we can discuss it.

Thank you again guys for the positivity. I am having a really good time with this..reminds me of the good ole' days. You guys remain positive, and I will remain enthusiastic and motivated... pretty easy, aye? I'm definitely feelin the love!
[EVO 4G General] wanfaltm:
Wow take a look at that poll. More people want WP7 on their devices than want Ice Cream. That's pretty damn awesome.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
To bad it will never happen, once the nexus s comes out devs are dumping their evo's. Then when evo 3D comes out good luck with that lol. If you want wp7 so bad just get launcher 7 from market. It makes me sad to see you guys with your hopes so high. We'd prolly get flying cars before this gets ported to the evo

~ d3rk
[EVO 4G General] roar109:
I think that should great run wm7 and android on dual boot or something, is like the hd2 but in reverse :D

If you need testers, here i am :)
[EVO 4G General] RileyGrant:
Jumping ship to a phone that doesnt even have an sdcard slot? If you go over to the Nexus forums, there is honestly not much in the way of devving going on, just theming gingerbread. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice phone but doesnt have much potential as far as devving goes, especially since it already comes with gingerbread. As for the Evo 3D, if you look in some of the threads asking which devs are jumping ship, many of them say they want to, but dont know if they will be able to due to the fact that they arent upgrade eligible. (Myn for example) And Toast says he'll maintain the Evo and the Evo 3D, so no worries there. Thats like saying that development for the N1 ended because the NS came out, or that development for the Dinc will end because the Dinc 2 is coming out. Or that the DX will lose devs because of the DX2. You get the point.
[EVO 4G General] taadow1030:
In the words of Doc from Back to the Future Pt 1, " Roads? Where we are going, we don't need roads!" Once this has been accomplished, just be sure to come back and give thanks to all of those with forward vision who never gave up.
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
Quit with the negativity. If you dont believe in this project, then leave this post. Everyone has been on a positive note, but you have to kill the streak. We finally have two devs (TWO HOLY MOLY DEVS!!!!!). HAVE SOME RESPECT!!!:mad:

Also, miphonematt is doing pretty awesome job in organizing this shindig. THANKS DEVS!!

(i believe in youuuuuu)
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Ask anyone who was the first to post a thread asking can we get a WP7 port they will tell you it was me. I am the one who sparked everyones interest. I'm all for getting the port to work its just that I've talked with many devs that shall remain nameless and they said its just not worth it(for many reasons). So I abandoned my original thread. I wanted to see this happen more than anyone I swear lol. I don't mean to be negative but good luck to the ones who are supposedly working on it you will surely need it. It will be months before anyone even sees anything that will barely boot. My original donation of 40 bucks still stands once someone does get a 75% working rom. Cheers

~ d3rk
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
convince those devs otherwise i know who you are talking about just help us do this
[EVO 4G General] M..N:
I wouldn't be able to let your borrow although I can give you anything you need from the device (got a hd2 running wp7)
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
It would be best if you PM'ed him