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[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
Windows Vista and Windows 7 are fundamentally the same.

Much of Vista-hate comes from 2 things:

The first is the "Walmart Special" $299 computer. You know, the one rocking 512MB of RAM, a Celeron processor and integrated graphics... A computer barely fit to run XP that shipped with Vista. Throw in the free trial crap that gets bundled in, users that don't have a clue, and it's quite the mess.

The second is lazy programmers. Ones that had been taking shortcuts that Microsoft no longer allowed for security reasons. Companies that refused to produce or produced horrific drivers. The system crashes and people think "Wow, Vista sucks" when Vista isn't what crashed at all.

I've run XP, Vista, 7, Ubuntu, and OS X on my Dell. Clearly Windows 7 is the winner, but Vista is not that far off... I'll take Vista over XP any day. Actually, I'd take any of the others listed over XP... XP is archaic and obsolete.

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[Captivate General] kangi26:
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[Captivate General] gandalf21502:
True...BUT...that is ONE FAST PINTO...;)
[Captivate General] joeybear23:
Unfortunately TMo was run in such a way that they sought a buy-out. This is not a hostile takeover, it was solicited.
[Captivate General] xdahgary:
I'm on Windows 2000 right now! It still works great. :D
[Captivate General] IamSonoma:
Ever been to West Tennessee? I deal with dropped calls quite a bit. There are times when I can text everyone but my wife. I know I got the corrent number because I am usually replying to her text.

ATT always has an excuse(Towers). Whatever. Either way the $25 credits add up. It will take about 10 years to recoop but ATT is better than most around here.
[Captivate General] icy56:
T-Mobile person here and I'm not too excited about this. I seriously hope I wont loose my 5gb "unlimited" data plan (hey its more than 2 and I don't have to worry about overage fees). I read that once the change has been done our 3.5g phones will no longer get data and they will provide replacements. If getting a replacement means you are forced to change your contract(loosing "unlimited"), I will be pissed off.
[Captivate General] joeybear23:
It depends on how they do it.

When AT&T bought Cingular, I used my Cingular SIM for another year and a half with no issues. When AT&T bought AllTel, my FIL had to get a replacement phone within 6 months because it would not work with the new network.

I suspect ATT will want to absorb the TMo infrastructure, which means existing equipment on both ends will continue to work. New devices will work on both TMo and ATT infrastructure, and thus that will be where customers get the benefit of the merger.
[Captivate General] jermean:
Hmmm

I think this will be tremendous for GSM and LTE (in the future) users. In terms of coverage and network speeds. AT&T already owns most of the backhaul which will benefit all parties. Thats if it all gets DOJ and FCC approval.
[Captivate General] avgjoegeek:
So.. if T-Mobile and AT&T are merging are they going to re-name themselves to T-Bell?

Wonder if they will get a Disney license and just call themselves the Tinkerbell network ;)

This doesn't bode well for T-Mobile users though. And I have a lot of friends in a T-Mobile customer call center that are crapping gold bricks... I bet they end up shutting it down.

At least us AT&T folks might start seeing a better line of Android phones.

And Vista sucked from the kernel to the drivers - the whole thing was worse than Windows Manure Edition. I ran Win XP up until Windows 7 RC was released and now haven't looked back. Vista issues went much deeper than 3rd party drivers and just sloppy coding. There was NO QA done on that product to allow it out the door like they did. But... it appears M$ learned their lesson - dumped billions into developing Windows 7 and it is probably the best Windows OS I've ever ran.... (besides Windows 98 SE :D)
[Captivate General] Dani897:
i have run vist and win 7 on the same computer and vista, although not bad like the days of win 95-98, boots very slow and shuts down very slow, it did take a while for the drivers to catch up, and the ui changes in 7 are enough to reduce my frustration level a little. i expected vista to have problems as xp was no better in 2003 but to see that they could produce windows 7 in such a short amount of time after we had been using xp for 5 years just says lazyness on the part of microsoft. if it took 5 years to develope vista then how was so much improvement made to it so shortly, and why not update vista with the changes, why have a whole new os version and leave many users in the dark that there is a free upgrade program for oem computers and then stop selling vista while xp is still on the shelves? i know vista was like a testbed but couldn't they make some speed improvements and such while they sort out the ui for 7? it was just bad buisness and the end user suffers with a slow computer and a limited time to get a license for an up to date os.
[Captivate General] mobileseq:
Oh better not.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
You just proved my point.
[Captivate General] xdahgary:
Just saw Verizon's projected LTE map at the end of this year. At&t definitely needs to expand LTE faster and converting Tmo's 3g towers to LTE towers will definitely be faster than building a whole new tower. It still looks like Verizon's LTE network will be way ahead of At&t.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
I predict a lot of iPhone users that jump to Verizon will discover that they took simultaneous voice and data for granted and will be disappointed about it.
[Captivate General] ryusen:
Win7 is really what Vista should have been when it was released. Yes, they are very similar, but 7 is a much more polished and finished product. When vista was release neither ATI nor Nvidia had properly functioning drivers. Sure you can blame them instead of MS, but seriously. MS released an OS before 95% of the video cards out there were not ready?
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
My sentiments exactly.

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[Nexus One General] jamesfrom818:
I'm really concerned about what this means for future Nexus phones. AT&T locks down Android phones to prevent installation of non-Market .apks so I doubt they'd allow future revisions of the most open Android phone to roam across their network.
[Nexus One General] norazi:
Noooooooooooooo!

Don't touch my tzones!
[Nexus One General] coldchillen:
at first, im relaxed, enjoying my current plan. the only thing on my mind is a suitable upgrade for my N1.

then something happens.. something we cant possibly couldve prevented.

then, i see the inevitable happen..

this is what i feel like:

[YOUTUBE]l6nKxmQOCrQ[/YOUTUBE]

there has to be something positive out of this right? i dont want to be like the elderly people telling the government to 'leave my medicare alone.'
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
The end is upon us: Att to buy out T-mobile =(

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom

This feels like a shot to the gut right now :(

Before I had a Nexus One I had an iPhone with Att. I hated how Att trained their customer service reps to be complete pricks over the phone instead of helpful. A few calls to T-mobile and I was sold on their customer service. Now that will be no more. Eventually all of Att's unhelpful customer service training will permeate throughout the former T-mobile representatives. T-mobile always gave me the absolute best customer service of any company I had dealt with and now? No more...

T-mobile would always come in first in J.D. Power and Associate Customer Satisfaction Survey and now? No more...

T-mobile also had the most flexible and nicest wireless plans you could ask for. I currently use an Even More Plus no contract $50/mo for 500 minutes and unlimited data. While they were fighting for customers against the other 3 they would pull out all of the stops to make sure they attracted customers. Att gives people the middle finger with their 2gb (instead of 5) limit. I loved how competition in the wireless market resulted in better options for the consumer and now? No more...

First Google abandoning us and now this? I am sad :(
[Nexus One General] paperecho:
Well the one good thing is that existing plans will be grandfathered. They can't make you change your plan... unless you buy a new phone and sign a new contract I suppose.

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[Nexus One General] pakraider:
says who? ..........
[Nexus One General] Mrplennium:
I was terrified when I read this. This cannot be!!! I HATE AT&T!!!! What will this mean for my even more plus plan and data tethering???? I tether a lot with my unlimited data plan which is something AT&T hates or would like you to pay a ridiculous fee for..
[Nexus One General] what25:
I hope you're right man. I hope you're right. If they do make us (force) choose their expensive plans, I'll switch. Not gonna be capped at 2Gb without tether.
[Nexus One General] opus1one1:
What are the implications for those of us on non-contract "even more plus" plans?

They better keep on developing wifi-calling and making it free.
[Nexus One General] coldchillen:
heres a question: would it be wise to upgrade phones now while tmob is still tmob? im sure if/when att acquires tmob, theyll force new plans/rates..
[Nexus One General] danger-rat:
Couldn't have gone to a more polar opposite carrier...

I detest AT&T, so I think I'll be looking for a new carrier! :-/
[Nexus One General] paperecho:
I was part of Cingular when at&t took them over. There are still people with old Cingular rate plans. They cannot force you to change plans unless you try and upgrade or something. And on top of that anyone who has tmo now and doesn't want to be on at&t this merger will give them an out for early term fees.

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[Nexus One General] what25:
I think for those of us on Even More+, we're ok, since we don't have ETFs. (I think). So we can leave if we want to anyway. I hope we get grandfathered in these plans, so atleast we can switch to potential new Nexus phones without changing plans.

About wifi-calling, I highly doubt they'll keep developing it if the merger goes through, let alone keep it free.
[Nexus One General] garfnodie:
All I got to say is I'm out. Been thinking of switching back to Sprint anyway, especially with the current promo of $125 credit towards ETF through middle of April, and now the announcement of a a new bad-ass dual-core phone from HTC for Sprint. Now, if I'm not able to swing the switch before credit deadline, I'll at least be able to get out when the switch happens without an ETF, but one way or another, I'm most definitely out.
[Nexus One General] Jyveafk:
Makes them a GSM monopoly. Just down to the regulators to realise how important it is to have choice.

I suspect they've already been bought.
[Nexus One General] DigitalJedi:
This news has ruined my day. I detest AT&T. Definitely will be switching and getting a new phone.

Anyone have any thoughts regarding Verizon and Sprint? I don't like Verizon as a company and I don't like the stories I've heard about Sprint's coverage. Anyone have anything to share?
[Nexus One General] dswaggz:
Simple Mobile 60$ unlimited everything no contract plus if u get 4 ppl 2 sign u get a month free
[Nexus One General] scalp42:
I have a question : what's gonna happen regarding the 3G frequencies ?

As far as I remember, Tmobile N1 could not get 3G on AT&T and vice-versa (just like the iPhone).

Any ideas ? Will they keep different frequencies (which doesnt make much sense) or are we gonna get screwed ?
[Nexus One General] jamesfrom818:
Future phones will probably just be quadband.
[Nexus One General] scalp42:
Hence my question about our-current-N1-phones :D
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
This is bummer news, but I'll just wait & see in about 12 months where merger & everything stands. Eeek!
[Nexus One General] Blades:
April fools?
[Nexus One General] what25:
Simple Mobile runs on T-Mobile. What then?
[Nexus One General] coneybeare:
Good news for those of us that already have ATT
[Nexus One General] paperecho:
All the doom sayers make me lol.

For those bailing you are being premature. Go to Verizon and pay more or go to Sprint and have worse customer service than at&t. This is not a monopoly as there are other cell phone providers. Doesn't matter what band they use. I. E. Comcast / dish net / directv / at&t are the choices for tv/cable. At&t/tmo/verizon/sprint/cricket are cell phone providers.

Stop being negative adapt a wait and see attitude.

Tmo has a press release stating that they will remain tmo.

goo.gl/hYN9u

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[Nexus One General] scalp42:
It is a GSM monopoly.
[Nexus One General] garfnodie:
I will first admit that I'm leaving T-Mo asap, and heading for Sprint, whom I had before T-Mo anyway, but I would like to point out that you must be the exception to the rule when comes to dealing with AT&T. Everyone I know has always had horrible service (customer & signal) when with AT&T. Yet you state that Sprints service sucks compared to AT&T, which implies that you've had great luck with AT&T. This just points out, that like any service or product, your millage may vary. I for one do no like what I'm seeing from AT&T and terms of offerings and customer service, so I choose to go back to Sprint, with whom I had great luck on before, just left cause I really wanted an N1. I should also point out though, that I had decided to leave T-Mo a week ago anyway, well before this announcement, this just gives me even more reasons to leave.
[Nexus One General] onesavior:
no data cap maybe?

....grumble grumble grumble
[Nexus One General] Lex_407:
You can buy a new phone and keep the plan, you just can't upgrade the data plan if you wanted the HSPA+/4G. If you wanted that data plan then you would lose your grandfathered plan. Android take a lot more data than an iPhone from what I experienced. Keep your unlimited plans.
[Nexus One General] ohgood:
well, i've been enjoying a non-contract service for a little while. i'll just cancel all cellular service and use wifi if/when i need it. i will never, and i mean never, sign another contract for cellular, internet, or cable television again.

(i mean, unlesss it's one that requires THEM to pay ME loads of money for absolutely nothing)
[Nexus One General] lpasq:
About time. No more GSM fragmentation. I'll take a GSM quad band monopoly over Big Red anyday.

...post via N1
[Nexus One General] onesavior:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/more-information-att-acquires-tmobile

this should clear some facts up
[Nexus One General] mrbkkt1:
I read that too, but I also knew a couple of cingular customers that had to get att sim cards, and thus new plans after a few months....
[Nexus One General] crachel:
Now all GSM phones will be available to me, instead of only some. Sounds good to me.
[Nexus One General] Tazzaras:
So does this mean that if I wanted to bail from my current contract I have to wait the full year or would etf be waived now
[Nexus One General] lpasq:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE72J3JE20110321?ca=rdt

...post via N1
[Nexus One General] garfnodie:
I would imagine that you're going to have to wait a bit. They're not going to let people bail sans-ETF just yet, as this hasn't even passed any form of government approval yet. Can't hurt to call and ask though, I'd imagine they've already worked up answers to those kinds of questions cause I'm sure you're not the only one wondering that.
[Nexus One General] DanRo80:
I was just about to sell my Vibrant to get a N1. Now what do I do? Do I hold off, buy a T-Mobile 3G or AT&T 3G or I don't even know if I am sticking around now. Should I just get a T-Mobile N1 for now?
[Nexus One General] ddgarcia05:
...does verizon allow tethering? Might just back out of tmobile and go to verizon.
[Nexus One General] Tazzaras:
They do but they charge as well like att
[Nexus One General] marcelol:
Why have all sites gotten the interpretation of the Press Release incorrect ???

"T-Mobile USA continues to operate as an independent company."

"T-Mobile USA remains an independent company. The acquisition is expected to be completed in approximately 12 months."

In BOTH cases, the statements are PRESENT tense, not future tense. There is ZERO indication that TMobile WILL BE an independent entity after the acquisition has been completed. Has people's understanding of grammar become THAT incomplete and incorrect that EVERYONE in the news can't differentiate between a statement of PRESENT and one of FUTURE tense ?

Pay attention people. This is nothing but BAD for current TMobile customers.
[Nexus One General] mrbkkt1:
Mark my words, as soon as the deal goes through, and att is in charge, they will shut down the tmo 3g band. There is nothing in anyones service agreements that guarantees 3g service, just internet service. They will claim, that we will be able to keep our plans, and "pretend" that they are keeping tmo agreements because we will have unlimited 2g data. I'm wondering what the manufacturers are thinking, would you buy an HTC Pyramid if you knew that you couldn't use it in a year?
[Nexus One General] Androidboy35961:
AT&T is winning!!1
[Nexus One General] paperecho:
Don't get me wrong at&t service sucks to. Thus far tmo has been much better. But sprint has been by far the worst in my experience.

Big red was good as well. I'm keeping my nexus one. If need be ill pick up an at&t one. I'm on a 4g plan cause I signed up with a g2 on my contract so.... yay unlimited data for me.

I'm pretty low maintenance customer. If this gives me more bars in more places then I will just avoid calling customer service like the plague. I pretty much do that anyway. I'd rather go to a store. My local store treats me well.

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[Nexus One General] tenbeau:
I agree!!! I read in another release that the name will change to AT&T when the deal is consummated . So the independent entity is just until the deal is approved. The party is OVER as soon as AT&T takes over.
[Nexus One General] garfnodie:
It's kind of crazy when you think about it, but AT&T, Verizon and Sprint all seem to run the gamut of good and bad service. You'll hear people raving about them, but some else throwing out ever word in the book against them. But you always seem to hear nothing but good with T-Mobile. It's a shame that such a mostly universally loved company is getting eaten up by Ma Bell. It also sad how a customer oriented business can't compete against the monopolistic big dogs. DT wouldn't be selling if they were making money from T-Mobile. We can only hope that with a DT exec sitting on AT&T's board and 33 million loyal T-Mobile customers being sucking into the fold, that some of T-Mo's good will, will rub off on AT&T.
[Nexus One General] vzontini:
The T-mobile response says

Will my rate plan change because of the acquisition?

We will honor all contracted plans that are entered into before the change of ownership.

Knowing how these releases are often lawyered-up, I wonder if that is another way of saying "plans without a contract will not be honored after the change of ownership" i.e. Even More Plus plans. I guess we'll have to wait and see. 12 months is a long time in the phone industry so it's hard to tell where things will be by then.

I wonder if this means the iPhone5 will be quad band?
[Nexus One General] HighTech216:
Relax... These two companies have been in cahoots since day one. Alot of people don't realize that MaBell never really died, it just went underground.

Bell became divided Bell, divided bell became Ameritech here, which in turn became SBC. When big business is accused of holding a monopoly they simply split up the current infrastructure into smaller independent bits.

I know alltel customers that use Verizon's network yet the bill still arrives with the alltel logo. They can't just tell all the tmo users that they are magically property of at&t.

Edit: Essentially, at&t realized that their network totally sucks and that tmo customers are paying less for more. Tmo is hurting because of stagnation, no new biz means no growth, at&t is just going to ease their operating costs.
[Nexus One General] fyid:
>We will honor all contracted plans that are entered into before the change of ownership.

yes, i read that as "as soon as we own you and your contract is up you'll be forced to sign up for a completely new plan at our new monopoly prices."
[Nexus One General] zedmec:
whatev

all your towers are belong to us

i hope this goes thru i want more towers

i have att uverse, mobile, home and in my case their combo is the best for me
[Nexus One General] Chosen_on184:
By far the funniest line in that whole statement was this

" The U.S. is one of the few countries in the world where a large majority of consumers can choose from five or more wireless providers in their local market"

Now anyone with a brain knows that there are really only 4 big name carriers in the game

Verzion, Tmobile, At&T and sprint ...

The rest were for low budget individuals with low budget phones to boot

With this merger AT&T is slowly bringing back The Monopoly the government at one point fought hard to get rid off

Cricket, MetroPcs etc are not legitimate contenders in the mobile market and i expect to see them get gobbled up too

This reminds me of a real life PAC MAN GAME
[Nexus One General] Blades:
Haha at engadget posting that "can I has iPhone 4" is the #1 question to T-Mobile. Bull**** apple fan boys.

I'm guessing the number 1 question to att is "how badly are you going to **** this up" . These assholes have data caps on broadband lines. If they had their way they'd tier their phone plans according to syllables. Can't say that one, don't have the 3 syllables or more plan. I really hope 4g makes the CDMA "no simultaneous data&voice" downside a thing of the past.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
It already has. :) Not only that, with the Verizon Thunderbolt you can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G!! First Verizon device to do that. :) I see no reason why all future Verizon devices will not have this ability.
[Nexus One General] originalbryan:
3 syllables or more plan... :D

I hope AT&T doesn't read this forum. They'd jump on that idea in a heart beat.
[Nexus One General] JimSocks:
Well, I'm a sad panda. Last few years everyone I know have been switching to Sprint. They are actually pretty good in my area. Stuck with T-Mobile cause prepaid is cheaper. No contract so I won't be grandfathered into anything. Guess it will give me an excuse to switch later on down the road. Prefer gsm tho. Probably still keep my n1 for when I travel overseas
[Nexus One General] Mokurex:
"AT&T has confirmed that 3G T-Mobile handsets won't be able to access the network once T-Mobile's towers are repurposed to drive AT&T's 4G LTE push."

Like we all feared...

From:Gizmodo