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[XPERIA X10 General] Kingcool88:
Your post is spam.

This is a discussion thread for the development in the bootloader thread, so it doesnt get spammed down with this discussion posts...
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
Is anyone able to find the bootloader bounty thread? Perhaps I'm using the wrong keywords, but I can't find it.

@Bin4ry: small thank you is on the way: 5SW523532L196453T

not just for the bootloader bypass, but also for flashtool, early DT-kernels and everything else you contributed over the last year that I followed the X10 forums. Feel free to share with others that are involved (Androxyde, J, ...). Have a drink after your exams :D

Cheers

qwer23
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
By bypassing the *****loader aren't we also bypassing the SE kernel, which is where the coveted camera drivers are? I am confused.
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
Good question! Does this mean camera on stock ROM + custom kernel will have the same problems as on all the custom ROMs? I don't really care, I mostly used custom ROMs anyway, but I'm curious.

edit: seems I have invented quite a new name for our beloved little slutty loader ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] brat81:
Really i can't wait for it to be working 100% maybe it will clean-up the dev section and rid all these ****ing stupid so called "ROMS"
[XPERIA X10 General] admartian:
I wonder how far along this is exactly? It would be awesome if this happened and we saw a boatload full of new and variable roms from this.

Keep it up guys. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Bin4ry:
Many thanks to you!

@All:

After we got it fully working all from normal roms will be possible in custom roms too, because all this stuff depends on kernel.

But first we have to make it fully working, then we can see which other problems have to be solved while porting changes to actual kernel!

Regards

Bin4ry
[XPERIA X10 General] Haldi4803:
Depens on the Amount of Beer :D If they're drinking, they're drinking more than one Beer!

If i'm ever convinced to get a paypal account ( i still dislike it!) I'll buy you a beer.

But you're realy near at getting me convinced!

Keep the good work up!

realy want to OC an ARM CPU :D But there is no real reason to buy a Other android Phone now... HDMI out? kay maybe, Dual Cores? why? Better Graphics ? YES! but i'll wait for quad cores. Hope my X10 will last till then.
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
You're welcome!

Can you explain how it works with, let's say, camera drivers? I thought it's not possible to use them because they're signed. Does this bypass mean, their signing is useless not only for the kernel itself, but also for their drivers? Sorry if this question is plain stupid, but I don't really get it :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] will.m:
Here you go: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=941775&highlight=bootloader
[XPERIA X10 General] mayank.1love:
When our mobile starts at that stage bootloader checks for the signed kernel and loads it. After SE signed kernel is loaded we are loading our custom kernel after unloading everything else from the memory(the processes already started by the init script) without restarting the mobile. The SE kernel contains SE made camera drivers but our custom kernel will have all the required drivers made by our devs, within our custom kernel we can implement 16M colors in screen drivers, real multitouch drivers, OC support and whatever we like.As our custom kernel does not needs signing the same is with the drivers including camera drivers present in our custom kernel.

We will use this bootloader bypassing (kexec loading) until the bootloader is really cracked. After the bootloader is cracked(if ever) we don't have to load SE signed kernel before loading our custom kernel and can load our custom kernel directly from the bootloader.

This same method is being used by Motorola locked bootloader developers. This is the only way we can load our custom kernel without cracking the bootloader.

Hope this explains everything:)
[XPERIA X10 General] :
I would like to ask anyone who is working in SE development team...... What is the reaction in your offices regaring the bypass Bin4ry has done?

Anyone working for SE please respond
[XPERIA X10 General] cesko69:
Perfectly ! Thks

Proudly sent from my French Minitel
[XPERIA X10 General] will.m:
Thank you very much for this explanation, but this brings up a question from other posts by devs in the dev only thread. Unless I misunderstood, I believe that there is a fully compiled(not sure if this is the right term) non-retail dev bootloader with the accompanying kernel. Does this mean that the drivers are all custom or possibly a mix of SE and custom drivers?

I'm not sure how relevant this is as I have no idea how good other camera apps are compared to the SE one.
[XPERIA X10 General] Chillaxed:
Great work guys. But if it can be completely bypassed why even bother cracking the bootloader? Does it just make rom development easier?

I'm already thinking about honeycomb >.< and I know these phones aren't fast enough but the HTC magic got 2.2 so anything is possible if its optimized and overclocked enough haha
[XPERIA X10 General] mayank.1love:
All drivers may be custom made by the devs or they can be ported from SE sources. The main reason of custom driver is that we can implement our own tweaks into the drivers that can enhance the quality of pics and even increase the 30 fps limitation on video of SE kernel. The custom drivers in the custom kernel will certainly have far better quality as compared to stock SE kernel camera quality. We can now fully use the mobile hardware without any kernel limitation.

But making custom kernel and compiling custom drivers will take a little time so we will have to wait till everything is on track.
[XPERIA X10 General] mayank.1love:
Cracking the bootloader to disable drm checks can make the development task a little bit more easier. With a cracked bootloader we can have a real recovery in our mobile (just like Z Xrecovery) where we can use more advanced rom management from the recovery.

The only problem with cracked bootloader is the chance of bricking the mobile, if anything in the bootloader is written incorrectly.
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Great, finally this is starting to take a good direction.

Good luck devs.! It has been demostrated that you're a waaaaay superior than SE devs :p
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Thank you I have been searching all day for this and posted in there asking if they intend on paying up lol
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
If I have understood everything correctly so far we need to use the flashtool every time we want to boot up using the custom kernal until bin4ry and jerpelea can make it load the custom rom everytime (which is where the drm checks or actually cracking the boot loader) Or am I way off here?
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Explained very well! I wasn't being unthankful. I was just confused. I am not a developer, nor do I pretend to be. Great work! Thank you, thank you, thank you. :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] fiscidtox:
It isn't even at a useable state yet, once it is I'm sure people will pay...
[XPERIA X10 General] mayank.1love:
No we can boot into our custom kernel just by adding some lines in Z Xrecovery where it can execute the .sh file which can do the needful. Another way of loading our kernel without the use of flashtool is by running required instructions within init script so that our custom kernel will load just after SE kernel loading.

The loading of custom kernel from Z Xrecovery has already been done by some users and the script is given in dev thread but till its all in testing phase the easiest method is to test using Bin4ry method or by using flashtool.

Bootloader cracking will only enable us to run our own custom kernel straight from the bootloader without doing chain loading(Bootloader -> SE kernel -> Our custom kernel).
[XPERIA X10 General] cruzin_cruzing:
Besides just loading custom kernels, are we also able to load custom recoveries, such as clockwork mod once the bootloader is bypassed?
[XPERIA X10 General] mayank.1love:
For custom recovery we need a cracked bootloader,with locked bootloader we can just have recovery like z xrecovery which have very limited functionality than full recoveries.
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
I see, that helps make things kinda clearer for me. Thank-you for taking the time and explaining all this to us non devs. Its just a matter of watching and waiting now and hopefully after bin4rys exam he will be posting with some more progress or tests that need to be carried out.

I can't wait to have fps cap removed and native teethering would be a luxury, and possibly adding dnla support like Sony were supposed to (that was one of the main reasons I got an x10). Its just a matter of time before these things will be possible i guess and I'm not trying to rush our devs by any means and its nice to see so many people from all over the globe come together on this project :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Sorry one more question and then I really must put my phone down and go to sleep because I'm meant to be at work in 6.5 hours.

You say our recovery is limited compared to a 'full' recovery, so what kind of functions are we missing out on? My x10 is the only phone iv ever modded so I don't know what I'm / we are missing out on compared to say a nexus one or desire or any other phone with a full recovery. I'm sure I heard you can flash basebands through recovery a couple of days ago....
[XPERIA X10 General] mayank.1love:
For eg. We can't flash any baseband just using z xrecovery,we need to do it by connecting to our PC. The recovery we are using is present in the phone memory but the complete recovery we get after cracked bootloader resides within the other partitions from where we can do complete flashing operations on the phone memory. Currently z xrecovery can't flash whole rom on phone memory because it itself is present in the phone memory.

Now have a gud sleep:)

Its morning here so gud morning for me and gud nite to u.

I'll try to help here with as much knowledge I have in the subject.
[XPERIA X10 General] PoTi_96:
dont forget the CPU scaling... (overclocking and so)
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
no need to use flashtool steve... if u have seen Reboot Options in power menu there are options to "Boot into recovery" & "Boot into bootloader", which are not yet completely implemented in our devices...

if u guys want i can put up a GScript file here for reboot using custom boot.img without the need to use flash tool everytime...

i think the devs will implement the options like "Reboot into xRecovery" (just put a file 'flashtool' or 'recoveryreboot' into /data/local/tmp/) & "Reboot using Custom boot.img" (just put a file 'kexecboot' into /data/local/tmp/) very soon...

i am personally hoping for netfiler/iptables in custom kernel... this will finally allow us to use proxy over wifi...
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Yes I do remember seeing these options I just wasn't sure, it will be good to actually be able to use these options as I thought its perhaps just a little pointless having them and them not being able to work in the power menu.

What would being able to use a proxy over wifi do then? Sorry I'm full of questions .
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Thanks once again from your time. Needed more sleep though lol
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
my work place requires proxy authentication for accessing internet... if i want to use internet services on my android, over company wifi, the device is just not able to communicate as android lacks proxy support (for complete system).. there are some apps to bypass that (like ASProxy) but most need iptable/netfilter which is currently not there in our older kernels (2.6.29)... newer kernels support these features...
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
I see thanks for the explanation, makes perfect sence. I can see why you would want that, my work place has no wifi all together which is why I'm looking forwards to wifi teethering and bringing along wifi receiving USB dongle to work. I shall stop with the OT questions now and thanks for taking the time for explaining, appriciated :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
have u tried Barnacle Wifi Tether... i have tested it and it works on 2.1 & 2.2 roms for sharing my 3g data over wifi... may be someone can try it on 2.3 roms...
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
I did try it on Z's 2.2 a while back now and never had any success. I could never get it to work on the 0wlan if I remember that's what you are supposed to have written in there somewhere and just borrow the girlfriends desire HD everynow and then to connect do wifi hotspots lol
[XPERIA X10 General] rapatu2010:
Posting under 'Bootloader almost bypassed' MODS: Please devise 'DONOR TO DEVELOPERS RECOGNITION'

I do not want to start a new thread but I will if advised to. Since we are all so excited with the work done by many great developers with the imminent 'freeing of our X10s' is there a way that donors ( I mean financial donors ) can be acknowledged the same way that number of posts on forums earn recognition to various levels of forum membership? Could contributions of say $5/ or equivalents in any currency be denoted a 1 unit or so? A forum member could thus have

Posts: 100

Donation units: 5

Location: Planet earth

Could this not encourage more donations to developers?
[XPERIA X10 General] javagreen:
It could definitely encourage more people to donate to the devs, but it can also lead to the members who haven't donated to be looked down by other members.

If you haven't noticed, there have already been countless instances of some members in various threads using their "donating member" status to troll, verbally abuse and question other members who haven't yet donated and also demand explanations/progress reports etc.

Anyone who hasn't donated may very well be due to a good reason. Many here would be students [like I am, i'm studying IT management though I have worked during my school vacations few years ago for the experience/money] and not have a paypal account/credit card, others might have financial difficulties, there are other reasons too.

What you suggest is good, but it poses the risk of creating an even bigger discriminating divide between those who have donated and those who have not.

Donations, just like clicking the 'thanks' button is voluntary and those who can/want to donate, will donate.
[XPERIA X10 General] HunteronX:
I've updated the front page of the 'Bootloader Cracking : Devs only' thread. Have a look, and tell me what you think. I'm hoping that it will help avoid people having to read through hundreds of posts.

But remember to post here if you just want to discuss about the devs' work. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] CMoney87:
A lot of people seem to be getting a little ahead of themselves here. This work around is still a ways from complete. It reboots automatically, the radio doesnt work and it reboots to stock. We're still a ways off from having a custom kernel with custom drivers running complete fully custom ROMs with no bugs. This whole thing is still in the early phases of development and there is a lot of work to do, its not like as soon as the bootloader is bypassed everything will automatically work. Just like ROM development it will be one step at a time identifying every bug and fixing it. Asking timetables on when we'll have whatever features available is frivilous, nobody knows how long this still might take.
[XPERIA X10 General] rapatu2010:
@javagreen

Fair enough. You have a valid point. I was just thinking of how to encourage more people to support the developers. It indeed will be sad if the method introduces more discord in the forums
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
A quick OT lol

http://m.facebook.com/SonyEricssonU...71&_ft_ti=17&_ft_sai=0&_ft_time_ft=1300882984

Sony Ericsson uk Facebook status with my comment at the end. Skip everyones comments, mine is at the end. Awaiting reply.
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
I don't have a facebook account. What does it say?
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Basicly Sony ericcson uk do puzzles / questions every now and again, this one was something like 'right everybody you got 3 hours to crack this code'.

I basicly said about giving up the bootloader code as the x10 is dead and now redundant to Sony and how xda gives much better support than than them and how its unlikely I'll purchase another Sony android and mocking them for wanting to be market leaders with how much or a joke they are and how I don't blame to Facebook Rep or to take it personally and I was expressing my opinion in a public area. That's the long and short of it tbh
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
you don't have a facebook a/c :eek: :D
[XPERIA X10 General] -- X10B --:
here in my country even my grandmother has one. hahaha...

@steve can i add you dude?

EDIT : friend request sent... thnks
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Yeah sure, I don't use it much though tbh.
[XPERIA X10 General] Radys:
My dog have facebook :)
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Lol, Actually, I do/did but my girlfriend broke into my page and caught me emailing an ex from college. That combined with her questioning every female on my friends list made it too much hassle. Jealous girlfriends and social networking don't mix well for me. I get crap for being on xda all the time.
[XPERIA X10 General] Vito Andolini Corleone:
Nice post there Steve! But I thinkthose guys won't leave any reply.
[XPERIA X10 General] GreatBigDog:
And how do you know that she's not reading this ^^ ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
I'm not really expecting one really I just thought it would make for readers on their Facebook, I had a few 'likes' so there we go.
[XPERIA X10 General] rogem_kk:
Heh, time for a new girlfriend:D
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Lol. I don't care if she does. It's the truth. Really she couldn't figure out how to find me on here anyway. This is all Greek to her.

She's actually pretty awesome(JIK she's reading this :-) However, I wouldn't like to find her secretly talking to some other guy either. I have given her reason to be jealous. She doesn't care if I have my fb page. It's my way of staying out of trouble, especially after a night out drinking.
[XPERIA X10 General] CoopZor:
Today was a silent day on the bootloader page :)

Hopefully tomorrow some news te read.
[XPERIA X10 General] CMoney87:
Bin4ry had an exam today so its not surprising. J and Z were said to be working behind the scenes on things. There is a long way to go yet to get this even usable let alone to write new drivers and ROMs to get everything working. When theres any new developments that require testing Im sure it'll be known. People expecting to be having fully functioning ROMs that bypass the bootloader any day now will be waiting a long time. Development is a process, every bug needs to be tackled one at a time, its not like bypassing the bootloader is the last step to fully functioning ROMs its only the first one.
[XPERIA X10 General] omnikam:
+1 totally agree. It's going to be sometime before we see a rom made for this, as it bypasses the bootloader all the drivers will have to be made for it, that will take time. At the moment all roms loaded with Bin4ry's kernel force reboot a few seconds after loading(this may actually be normal as it can happen when installing roms with xRecovery), rebooting into stock rom

The bottom line is be happy for in the not to distant future we will have our roms with custom kernel's, but don't expect it anytime soon
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
It would have been nice to see some of the testers report the had duplicated Bin4ry's success with the radio on 2.1.A.0.435 BB 0.54.
[XPERIA X10 General] omnikam:
Definitely, but if Bin4ry has done it then it's just a matter of working out what he's doing that the rest of us ain't. In a way it was probably too early to break this news as there will be a lot of peeps asking now"when can I have this Rom or that", oh well it's been done, let's just wait a little longer :)
[XPERIA X10 General] SIOUX1104:
It seems that the camera and videocam of cm7 2.3.3 is already working using 3rd party apps as confirmed in J's thread! I just don't know if the progress on kernel done by binary helped it work or it has nothing to do with it?

Sorry if i am off topic!
[XPERIA X10 General] JasoX:
I got banned from a SE group because i was explaining to other users about custom roms, Arc Launcher and yesterday the pinch to zoom module. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] LJE:
HAHAHA i remember SE saying multitouch wasn't possible..

They must hate XDA uncovering all their lies
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
As a group / organisation they are facist b*stards. I'd love to know the official word on how they feel as a company about this kernal progress and what Mr Rikard Skoberg or what ever his name is would have to say about it all. Sony. Make .Believe should be changed to Sony Make Me Beleive...
[XPERIA X10 General] zabihjan:
Wow, cant wait
[XPERIA X10 General] CM-PRo:
Haha! They did that with me too. On the original SE page on fb i posted about the custom ROMS and bootloader getting cracked, they deleted my post and blocked....Haha! They must surely be furious... ;) :)
[XPERIA X10 General] CoopZor:
Do them have to make the drivers from scratch or do they have something to start with and they have to adjust it ?
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
One thing is for sure though, DO NOT install any updates on your phones from here on since SE will likely try to destroy the wormhole found to bypass their bootloader.

Regards.
[XPERIA X10 General] GreatBigDog:
Unless they come up with a way to block flashtool, I can't see how. You could always use it to flash to an older version and then continue from there.
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
You can always reflash an older kernel. And I'm pretty sure they cannot update bootloader via flash...

Please correct me if I'm wrong!
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
Maby you guys are correct, i have little experience in programming so i have no clue. Better safe then sorry though :-)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hackersdoom13:
I don't know if this is answered already but i'll post anyway. I've seen a ton of people asking why PIM Backup restores SMS in incorrect order. Well from what i've experiemented PIM Backup only backups your SMS in Classic Order so when you restore you have a bunch of your messages together then another bunch of your replies.

1. So today I found out you should disable SMS Threading via advanced configuration.

2. Soft reset

3. Restore backup

4. Enable threading

5. Soft reset and it should work...

Or before backup

1. Used advanced config to set SMS Delete Limit to amount that you need.

2. PIM Backup then I'm assuming your hard resetting or flashing some kind of rom or installing a big cab. Do all that.

3. Disable threading / softreset

4. restore backup

5. Enable threading

6. Restore deleted sms to inbox

STEPS 5 and 6 are interchangeable but I have not tested yet.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahmadin:
nice..... :)
[Bravo General] sdrawkcab3:
Did I get a defective unit, or does everyone's Bravo take pictures that can be bested by a play school kids camera?
[Bravo General] alamardaman:
No you didn't get a defective unit. The Bravo has a crappy camera.
[Bravo General] ralphiekowalski:
Same here

It's better than my last phone's camera. But, it still takes 'cell phone' quality pictures.
[Bravo General] alamardaman:
No its the phone. The camera is crap. The Backflip I had before the Bravo took better pictures even though it failed at running Android with only 528mhz processor and 256 ram. Task killer was a requirement to even use the backflip.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kelkaz:
Hi, I'm new on here. I reckon that this will be the start of several more posts. I am after an easy way to unlock my Garmin A50 that is currently locked to the Optus network. Is anyone able to give me help or advice.

Kel
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kelkaz:
bump to start again
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dancm91:
I'm after the same thing, any help is appreciated. Thank you.