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[Windows Phone 7 General] Casey_boy:
Eugh. Again?

Firstly your carrier, Orange, delayed the pre-NoDo update. To get around this, debrand your device (details here).

Secondly, no Omnia 7s that I have heard of have got the NoDo update yet. Could be in response to the initial problems with the pre-NoDo update with Samsungs or it could be for some other reason.

Casey
[Windows Phone 7 General] TeNsTrKe15:
at&t users

i just called at&t's customer service. not sure if what they say is true or not but a representative told me that at&t does not have the update to release. they tend to get phone updates 24 hours before they release it. so now its on microsoft
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
Can you now connect to hidden wifi networks? How about playing videos using a bluetooth headset? Does the audio now stream correctly?
[Windows Phone 7 General] blacksoul0:
I'm in Europe and my phone is unbranded. Still waiting for NoDo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Freypal:
I don't see the point in applying workarounds to get the pre-update which adds nothing and will invalidate my warranty should i need to return the phone to Orange.

Say i install the update by changing registry settings and the update bricks my phone. Orange will just say to me "we haven't authorised this update so we won't replace your device".

I don't want that hassle.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tfouto:
you could wait until they authorize... :p
[Windows Phone 7 General] TOA Duck:
Its not gonna brick it, Ive done it, again like others have said it could be a month or more till ATT approves and pushes it. I am not gonna wait that long.

Just me......
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
I wouldn't be taking AT&T customer support's word on it, especially since AT&T does not actually release the update. The distribution method is entirely Microsoft controlled, the schedule is carrier-controlled.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TOA Duck:
to the person who said that the carriers cannot block this update you are incorrect. Sorry

I say they can block it, I guess what I mean is they will send it out according to their schedule.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tsointsoin:
Branded orange Switzerland omnia 7 --> still no update...
[Windows Phone 7 General] cityhunterx:
No to WiFi, not sure about the video as not something I use often.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Unbranded Optimus7 and no!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...unbranded Mozart. Yes!
[Windows Phone 7 General] tiny17:
haha @ your name. I've seen that Jackie Chan movie. Once was enough! :D

The update is supposed to give the mac address of the phone; this is what allows you to join hidden networks. So the real question is whether or not you can see your phones mac address.
[Windows Phone 7 General] stevew84:
T-Mobile USA HD7, nothing yet. im at 7004, Zune says this is the latest version. But i have a connection error on Zune.

"we cant create a connection from your phone to the internet. you can still sync content between your computer and your phone."
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
That's not right at all. The device has to be able to connect to the network in order to connect. WP7 has no way of initiating a connection to a hidden network. The MAC address is only for enterprise networks or something along those lines where they need the MAC address to allow you on. It has nothing to do with hidden networks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] elettrozero:
HD7 No brand @Rome|Italy.... No Update :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] Niiceg:
Omnia 7- got the update. I don't know why, but when I was entering *#1234# code i got the notification, maybe it's just coincidence, but what the hell ;D

I was branded on 3UK, than a while back installed european ROM.
[Windows Phone 7 General] stevew84:
I entered that on my numpad but it said "command not supported".
[Windows Phone 7 General] Baron164:
ATT Samsung Focus and no updates yet :-(

I've got the Samsung Focus and have not received any updates yet. It is really driving me nuts that I haven't gotten any updates. Not even sure who I should be pissed at, ATT or Microsoft.
[Windows Phone 7 General] richlee111:
Neither. Its the carriers.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cbebop7:
ATT is a carrier:)

ps. Kinda sad that although MS being an American company, the Americans are actually the last ones to get the NoDo update. Dumb carriers, the situation will be even worse after ATT completes the TMO purchase.
[Windows Phone 7 General] usbmonster22673:
I've got ahtc hd7 and it says that 7.0.7008 is the latest

What is going on
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
Um, then it's ATT as ATT is the carrier in this situation.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dzotx:
Yes, I know it was NODO... but not the latest NODO. ;) I just wanted to see what an update is like without having to flash it myself and also to see if there is a difference between 7389 and 7390.

I know the radio isn't the latest... but I wanted a ROM that is total unbranded to ensure I get the 7390 update. The battery life on it is okay so far... but it is usually good to give the phone a couple of battery cycles before judging the ROM battery life.

In comparison to my previous HTC TP2 phone (Telstra radio), the HD7 radio sucks as far as reception from my house is concern. I will have to keep trying different radio... until I find one with better reception... :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] yfbc:
No Nodo for me yet - UK Sim free (unbranded) HTC 7 Pro :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] toothfish:
Hm I bought my HTC Mozart 7 in Taiwan last year (Unbranded), now im using it in central europe.

Still no update....

Can the people who got the update specify where they are? I'm guessing location is a problem here too.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tanvir22:
HD7 no update

no update yet... just tried with my HD7
[Windows Phone 7 General] phoneguy 4567:
I wonder how many devices are in the cue for updating at any given moment? looking at the survey at the top NoDo seems to be going out at a snails pace. I imagine a member of the WP7 team deep in the bowels of MS manually scheduling devices 100 at a time. The update server is probably recycled from the shutdown Kin services :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ninjy:
OMnia 7 dev unlocked with Samsung fw and pre-nodo, no update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] richlee111:
Deleting my post. Apparently the update delay might not be carrier specific. Though here in the states I am pretty sure it is:mad:
[Windows Phone 7 General] TOA Duck:
http://windowsphone7central.com/articles/carriers_rolling_out_nodo_in_april-03-23-11
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
we know that chevron unlocked phones (build 7004) could be updated to build 7008 and still be unlocked .

my question is , is this the same for this build ?

so if you have an unlocked phone (chevron) please tell if it is still unlocked after the latest build (7390).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dumdidum:
It is not
[Windows Phone 7 General] Antaresram:
Same, I have an unbranded sim free 7 pro as well, and still waiting for it...
[Windows Phone 7 General] moneysaver05:
Nothing here on VODAFONE OPTIMUS 7 UK:mad:
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonshines:
as per WMpoweruser.com

now how about tmob US?when will they release the update?
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonshines:
read an article in wmpoweruser.com O2 uk and T-mobile Germany will have a delay in distributing the NoDo update till April.

This is still not a bad news since its just a week delay. atleast itll be distributed its just that its delayed for another 6 days.

now how about tmob us and att? when will they be putting the update into circulation?
[Windows Phone 7 General] TOA Duck:
ATT is claiming they dont have the update from MS yet
[Windows Phone 7 General] freaksey:
unbranded LG Optimus 7... have the pre-NoDo Update since a few weeks but no Nodo Update yet :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
In all likelihood, it won't be sooner that this coming summer. I've finally succumbed to the displeasure and am ridding myself of WP7, so updates or not, I no longer have to keep endlessly waiting.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Me either. I guess if they will not bring it to me until 31st of May than I quit.

Enough of bull****.
[Windows Phone 7 General] paretam:
Sim free Mozart with pre-NoDo in Czech Republic - nothing yet... Tired of waiting and going to sleep now, hopefully there will be a surprise waiting for me when I wake up in the morning :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] TeNsTrKe15:
heard same :mad:
[Windows Phone 7 General] mkaan:
unbranded omnia 7 updating.

Telenor

http://img863.imageshack.us/i/uppg.png/
[Windows Phone 7 General] dvorak123:
to no-do or pre no-do?
[Windows Phone 7 General] jorkobe23:
What did you do?

and where did you get your phone?

I also have unlocked Omnia 7 phone from Spain(I guess as when I got it, the language setting was Spanish). and I live in New Zealand.

But there is no notification yet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] EDDS:
That is the question :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] mkaan:
check the screenie, it's the March update. :) (NoDo). OS version 7.0.7390.0
[Windows Phone 7 General] MrLeche:
HTC HD7 unbranded. Most phone here in the Philippines comes out unbranded, sim free.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mkaan:
here is a bigger version of the screenshot:

http://radiosub.com/upp.png

What I did was reflash with JJ1 then zune installed pre-nodo, then i actually jailbroke it, installed the samsungtools.xap and as soon as i removed sidelimit and did a reboot the notification popped up on the phone and in zune... hope this helps!

edit: the phone is an unbranded Samsung Omnia 7 8gig version.

The marketplace is blazing fast now.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MrLeche:
whoa. What contest? that was nice!
[Windows Phone 7 General] jorkobe23:
Hi "mkaan"

where do you live?

I can't find JJ1 rom from xda.

Where did you get it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] bennyj71:
ATT Focus

Didn't see it mentioned. Do I need to unlock my Focus to use this registry editor?
[Windows Phone 7 General] mkaan:
Hey,

In budapest at the moment (but live in the States normally :P ). the JJ1 is also known as I8700 XEN I8700XENJK1 if i'm not mistaken. I got it from samfirmware.com but it has also been posted here on XDA forums.

It was released back in november by the way.

Btw my phone was also in airplane mode when i ran chevron alone with samsungtools.xap and was disconnected from the internet right before i unlocked with chevron.

So baiscally here's what I did

-Re-flashed with I8700 XEN I8700XENJK1

-Installed Pre-Nodo (automatically popped up when i started up my zune client

-Airplane mode

-Disconnect from the Internet

-Unlock with Chevron

-Install Samsungtools.xap

-Remove sidelimit and enable 3g toggle thingy

-Required phone-reboot

-Reconnect to the Internet right after the phone restarted

-Notification popped up on phone along with zune

-Install March (NoDo) update

-Done

Hope this helps!

ps: the copy paste is working like a charm. really. and the marketplace is just really fast. Should've been like this since day 1 :p

And seems like it's more battery conserving. But maybe i'm just daydreaming.

Apps/games load much much faster. Bejeweled pretty much instant loaded.

I'm not really a facebook fan but the loading time has been improved a lot on this as well.
[Windows Phone 7 General] SharpGIS:
I unbranded my Omnia 7, and also got the pre-NoDo right away when I did that, but still no NoDo.

Reading through the forums it seems like it's fairly region specific where it releases. I wonder what would happen if I would fake my PC though a proxy to think it's located in for instance the UK (I'm currently in the US).

Has anyone tried that?
[Windows Phone 7 General] jorkobe23:
But does re-flashing phone with ROM delete all the setting and contents in my phone?

and..

After getting NODO update, can't we use applications from chevron?
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
Don't have time to read through 34 pages. Anyone with Bell get it yet? Anyone from Ontario?
[Windows Phone 7 General] mkaan:
yes, it deletes everything but you can just sync your stuff with zune. (backup, then just drag the pictures/videos over your phone icon for re-sync)

MMS/SMS gets deleted though.

No, chevron is not working with NoDo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
Official update status, finally! Not as detailed as I'd like but still a huge step.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-schedule.aspx

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_.../2011/03/23/copy-and-paste-update-status.aspx

This shows our *****ing and complaining is at least getting through somewhat. Still a long ways to go and the question is will they learn from this for the future. Still it's something.
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
Check the status of your update here

You can now check the status of the two updates (the 'pre-update' and 'NoDo') on a new page MS have put up. It shows you the stage at which your update is based on your location and carrier. Seems like MS are becoming a bit more transparent and keeping users in the loop. Good move! :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] TeNsTrKe15:
good to see microsoft is updating information!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
I fixed the updater link in my post that lets you pick your location to get more specific info.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
Except that they're not talking about US carriers.

WHAT THE FUDGE.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
It's too little, much too late. MS should have put up a comprehensive status and done it at least 2 months ago. That little status page is a joke. They show themselves to be in error with the Feb. update. By this I mean, they show there was an official update for Feb which we didn't get. The NoDo, which is officially announced for the second half of March, won't make it to us until April, if even then.

I'm glad I sold mine.
[Windows Phone 7 General] bennyj71:
Doesn't look good for ATT. Guess I'll be going to the unbranded route.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Crimson Lotus:
NO FAIR! :mad:

Can you check if the Phone's Firmware had change..
[Windows Phone 7 General] uberlaff:
AT&T

Any one in the US on AT&T get the update yet?

I have a Focus and haven't seen the update yet... (3pm eastern)
[Windows Phone 7 General] lekki:
To Those Who're Getting NoDo Updates..

If you already got the update today, could you please

1/. Say your carrier

2/. Say if your phone is an unlocked phone or not

3/. Chevron or no Chevron

4/. Leaked Rom or no leaked Rom beforehand

Any other information we should know so we can emulate you lucky SOBs
[Windows Phone 7 General] merks_2002:
currently it is updating ... will tell u later. :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] mrTablet:
Have anybody Nodo on LG Optimus 7?
[Windows Phone 7 General] diboze:
unbranded htc europe trophy.

no update ... :)

but as there is no new "jailbreak", i wont update anyway :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
Why bother? It's going out to everyone, so if you haven't yet got it, plug your phone in and refresh Zune. If you still haven't got it, just give it a few hours and try again.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cyclical:
I have a Sprint HTC Arrive that came with the 7389 version, not sure if it will get updated to 7390 or not.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Lokatho:
Vodafone Trophy in the Netherlands, no update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] merks_2002:
Updating WP 7....:D:D
[Windows Phone 7 General] webwalk®:
im downloading right now

jumping from 7.0.7389.0 to 7.0.7390.0 on my mozart .. awesome :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] nok_fusion:
yes it's 7390 ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] neckleptic:
HTC HD7 EU Vodafone NL, 7089 to 7090 flawless
[Windows Phone 7 General] ZaForD:
Because loads of people still don't even have the pre-update yet (me included), and creating lists like this make it very easy to see which OEMs and/or Carriers are either slow to update or are blocking the updates.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
If your carrier blocked the pre-update they can't block this one :rolleyes:.
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
Those who haven't received the pre-update will get it included with NoDo. There should currently be no blocking from any carrier. Everyone will get the update, just give it a little time. It's a rolling update after all so not available to everyone at the exact same time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tfouto:
i was thinking creating a thread with several polls... do you might give the list of U.K. carriers? I would also like the carriers of USA.
[Windows Phone 7 General] shinygerbil:
HD7, o2 UK...nothing yet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ratchetjaw:
Focus and Dell Venue Pro here on att and tmob and nothing for either :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] merks_2002:
Update completed..:D

OS version : 7.0.7390.0

Firmware revision no. 2250.1800.7355.202

hardware revision no. 112.576.2.0

Radio software version. 2.2.50.18

Radio Hardware version. 8250

Bootloader version. 7.27.1.0

Chip SOC version. 0.36.2.0

:):)
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
The US page is here.

Not sure what you mean about the Feb update. That was the 'pre-update' people were asking about, but since it doesn't really do much, it's not that important. The key one is the 'NoDo' update. Whilst it would've been nice to have the status page earlier, at least MS seem to be more transparent than before. Hopefully that's a continuing trend.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
Well, I guess that's kind of nice to know that AT&T is the reason everything is held up, in a way that is reassuring in the sense that I can now kinda monitor it but frustrating as fudge in the sense that the "premiere launch partner" shouldn't be the last to get the updates.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
I'll probably be going the HD7S route if it comes out before I get the update but I'll hang around until then to see if unbranded works.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nat45928:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-schedule-usa.aspx

find the HD7, i think this week.
[Windows Phone 7 General] bennyj71:
Transparent? It seems to me that MS is scared to death because people are getting pissed off. Geting updates, any updates is the key to any OS now. This chart is finally showing us what we all thought and MS lied about: Carriers are blocking the update. MS is scared and they are saying don't blame us it's them. I convinced 6 people to get a WP7 phones! I'm getting more and more ashamed.
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Another reason why the sale of t-mobile should not go through, only give them millions more users to screw over.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Speak only for yourself. The fact that we didn't get the official update...no matter that is supposedly does nothing significant...is a serious issue and shows how MS does business. The fact that after ppl start abandoning WP7 and making it known to WinowsPhoneSupport, MS decided to put up a less-than-half-hearted status page shows they are destroying WP7 by their inactivity and are now trying to stem the flow of blood.

For us early adopters, ANY update, no matter how insignificant, would have helped us wait patiently. But they didn't want to do it. As far as I'm concerned, WP7 is now "Kin'ed"
[Windows Phone 7 General] bennyj71:
That's another thing. Why in the hell can't we get a date! ATT needs to stop this bull****. I called the other day to find out a price...Nope...not in there system and no knew anything about it. I'm willing to pay up to $550 for it! It's like they don't want you to actually by phones from them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
Whether they've become more transparent because of the public pressure (most likely) or because they felt like it is irrelevant. The fact remains, they've opened up a little more and kept us a bit more informed about what's going on.

I'm not quite sure was MS lied about though. I thought it was announced back in November that carriers will be able to block updates, but only up to a maximum one one update. Therefore, eventually, everyone would get the updates. But there's no argument about MS having to hurry up with the updates as they really need to pick up the pace.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vbgeezer:
We need to "open market"

I think MS got the balance right on this one - and I was complaining loud and proud last week. they have to keep alot of people happy, manufacturers, carriers and users.

I notice at the bottom of the page that Global "Open market phones" are getting nodo now.

I used the xda hack yesterday to get pre-nodo which I assume meand I am now classed as "All other operators" as I have a Telstra phone showing as in testing for both updates.

I assume all we need now is a hack to make our phones present themselves as "Open market" and we will get updates as soon as they are released.

Anyone?
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
I'm not sure what that story behind the pre-update was because some people got it, and when it caused problems with some Samsung devices, it seemed to be pulled back. But, as suggested in other posts, it could be that MS are filtering out carriers that block. The agreement was that carriers can only block up to one update. Therefore, by releasing the 'pre-update', any carriers that blocked it are obliged to release the 'NoDo' update. This means, if all that is true, that everyone should get the 'NoDo' update.

It's interesting that's the bit that annoys you considering the Android device isn't exactly the leader in updates. Or did you switch to iPhone?
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
You don't seem to be understanding the real issue here. We all should have had updates on our devices months ago. MS keeps pushing supposed updates out further and further into the future. The issue now isn't the updates, it's the *lack* of updates already. Ppl have lost patience and MS should have known that. If this is how MS will be conducting the update process, give the users an update process from the carriers. At least with the carriers updating, users would eventually get updates.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
I've never understood some of the things these companies keep secret. Now if you have some killer **** that's going to take over the world but you don't want someone beating you to the punch I understand but something like this that everyone knows is coming, it's already out in pretty much the same form elsewhere, why not give a date? At least a date range.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cbebop7:
so basically ATT customers are screwed, and with ATT buying TMO now almost all GSM WP7 users in the US are fcuked.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
You must've never owned a BlackBerry then.

It took AT&T a whole year to release/allow RIM to release BBOS5 on the Bold 9000. A ****ing year.
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
No, I understand what you're saying. However, considering this is MS' first update across multiple devices (unlike Apple) and across multiple carriers (unlike Android), I think I can cut them a bit of slack. If they keep this pace up for future updates, you might have a point. Yes, it's annoying to not receive the updates considering they were completed a while back, but I'm willing to wait it out.

edit: just saw your post on the highlighted bit being a joke.
[Windows Phone 7 General] bennyj71:
Here's the deal: MS and you keep talking about a carrier blocking one update. ATT is testing both updates! Basically they're blocking them. There seems to be no timetable on testing. They can test it forever. ATT tested they Android 2.1 update on the Sony X10 for five months after the rest of the world get it. Sony gave up and called them out.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
I was being facetious. I know the carriers updating would take forever. But with MS updating, forever isn't long enough before they issue an update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] amtrakcn:
So what are they actually testing? If the AT&T bloatwares work flawlessly on the updated system?

WTF are they testing that could delay a BBOS update for a year (learned from above) and then delay an Android update for 2 months (Rogers Captivate got froyo in Dec 2010, AT&T in Feb 2011, identical device). Now the 7008 minor update is out for almost a month and they are still testing, what are they testing?
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
Our patience.
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
That's a good point. According to this official post:

Of course, we'll have to see how it actually plays out.