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[HTC EVO 3D] kingdazy:
IMHO, the 3D is a gimick, perhaps interesting, but not my motivation for purchase.

It's the CPU, it's the GPU, it's the 2.3, it's the updated Sense.

i'm going to sex that thing as soon as I possibly can. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
Few Vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFGOdAzdg_8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc_QFt0x6l0
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
Yeah, afraid they got me too...despite my decision to ditch the network!
[HTC EVO 3D] blackroseMD1:
After watching that first video, a little of the excitement came back. That thing is FAST! Plus, it has a dedicated camera button, which kind of makes up for the lack of a kickstand, for me at least.

If I can talk Sprint into resetting my upgrade in June, I am definitely picking this up.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
People using 3d as a reason not to buy it really just didn't want an upgrade.

It has virtually everything else and you don't have to use 3d at all if you don't want to. I don't understand what else you could possibly want... this is a huge upgrade over the OG Evo.
[HTC EVO 3D] timtlm:
So, a friend and I were discussing...

Can you take 3d pictures in portrait? I'm thinking no...

Can you view 3d pics/vids in portrait? Not really sure, but may also be a limitation.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Did you even see those videos you posted ,?lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
+1 What the crap...
[HTC EVO 3D] blakeboys:
FAIL

10char
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Its pretty cool but think im gonna pass. Ill probably just let the Evo ride out to the end of the contract or maybe use the line for a tablet.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
This was posted on androidcentral by someone...

"Adib's pointing out the dual-core Snapdragon's capability for asynchronous clocking on the two cores -- a power-saving feature that the Tegra 2 lacks." -- Nice!"

That gives me hope of good battery life! I don't see this phone having terrible "Thunderbolt" battery ...
[HTC EVO 3D] dirkyd3rk:
I feel the same way its very cool and powerful but its just not screaming buy me. I got all worked up and now I'm like ehhh idk
[HTC EVO 3D] jta462:
Evo3D/3dView + root/rom = Happy Times. Cant Wait.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Actually he said they would be tweaking things right up to launch.

Sent from my HTC Evo running CM7
[HTC EVO 3D] T3hPWN:
"A Sprint developer guide for HTC EVO 3D and HTC EVO View 4G will be available on the http://developer.sprint.com website at launch. The developer guide will provide details and information on how to take advantage of their unique hardware and software capabilities, including 3D, HDMI output, DLNA and HTC Scribe Technology on the Sprint Network."

from the press release...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/htc-evo-3d-officially-announced-for-sprint/
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
I am wondering if anyone knows if the battery size of the evo 3d is the same size as the original evo 4g?

I could possibly still make use of my evo 4g extended seidio battery that I have.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scotty_Two:
I must say that I will miss the kickstand.

The only other thing that concerns me is what sort of display and camera drivers this thing runs on and if that info will be made available in hopes that we can get some Cyanogenmod (and other AOSP) love to this thing. I'm hoping that TeamWin will be picking it up and crack down on it and to get things going so that hopefully we can get some 3D action without Sense.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Yeah it might take them 8 months but it will happen.
[HTC EVO 3D] kingdazy:
1750mAh.

compared to our 1300mAhs.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I don't want this cra...**SMACKS MYSELF** What am I saying? This phone is so EPIC!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] BigRick10:
Another video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emdKBaC9sao&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
dont think he said aluminum body b/c he said it would be same form factor b4.

also said data ports were on top and bottom.
[HTC EVO 3D] TorxT3D:
yep. im getting this. no ifs ands or buts about it.

and im hoping our fav devs will be on board

im saving RIGHT NOW.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
Livestream said EVO 3d will have a 1730

The og evo is 1500..
[HTC EVO 3D] kingdazy:
Oooooh! nice new lockscreen.

and Sense2.x is just sexy.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
Yea, I was skeptical about that guy. I said so in the thread.

He had some info, likely got it from other leaks.. but I just got a feeling he was full of it. He was apparently wrong on enough information too.

Didn't he say it would have a kickstand and it would be more form fitting than the OG evo? He likely saw the Thunderbolt kickstand and it made sense for the EVO 3D to get it too ..wrong.
[HTC EVO 3D] kingdazy:
totally true, I stand corrected
[HTC EVO 3D] blackroseMD1:
I'm a huge AOSP fan...but I have to admit, the new Sense on the EVO 3D is really, really nice. I like the fact that he said that there were multiple lockscreen options as well, cause that one didn't really float my boat.

I'm really getting excited for this phone. Hopefully it's not $600 off contract.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
Did he say there were several options for the lockscreens? I know it's minor, but I really like having lockscreen options.

Battery is bigger and the dual core has asynchronous clocking so I am hoping they finally have a phone with good battery life. That is the most important upgrade for me.. without it, all these other features just means you have more things to kill the phone quicker.

EDIT: I agree with Blackrose, I love AOSP but I am excited for this new version of sense! I just didn't like the lockscreen.. I like sliders.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Why are so many people on engadget and other blogs bashing the fact that a phone has 3D? Are they still using phones with buttons and not touchscreens yet?
[HTC EVO 3D] kingdazy:
yeah, he off-handedly mentions there are other options.

which is something I always hoped for/wanted in Sense.

and with a beastly phone like this, i will likely actually Love Sense, it shouldn't feel bloated to me.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
he was right about the memory handeling stuff though and that didnt get released till today...
[HTC EVO 3D] kingdazy:
everyones going to bash it, that is until they see it, and when everyone else has it, or when Apple puts one out. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] :
lol if apple ever released a 3D phone, I wonder how many people will say its the first phone with 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkManX4lf:
What gpu does the EV0 3d have? I didnt see it mentioned. Is it the adreno line?
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
We really don't know if it's capable of WiMax + LTE yet because we don't know what chipset it's using for 4G. If could be that it does support both, but at launch, Sprint/HTC might only have WiMax enabled. And part of it might be because of consumer confusion. Can you imagine Sprint saying it has both, and before a single LTE Sprint site is lit up, some customers out there looking for an LTE connection?

As for NFC, it might have it also, we just don't know what the complete hardware specs are yet... I'm guessing that we won't know the final product until a week before launch, and by that time, many of us, out of contract, will have moved onto a different carrier.

Sprint/HTC needs to provide detailed capabilities fast.. I know if it don't have an upgrade path to LTE, I'm moving on to Verizon. 3D just isn't enough.
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
It's supposed to be the Adreno 220. BSOD, over at Andorid forums has stated that it's very over clock friendly too..
[HTC EVO 3D] frozndevl:
My overall impression is that the specs look pretty awesome. However, a few things I don't care for

- heavier

- bulkier

- 3D cameras (which contribute to the first two) I find the entire 3D "craze" to be more marketing hype than substance.

The current EVO is at the upper limit of size for me so Ic an still stuff it in my pocket and it doesn't give unsightly bulge, so I would have loved a form factor more in line with the galaxy s II before I considered upgrading. To me, this equates to a high-horsepower sidegrade in usability with some additional functions I wouldn't use.

Oh, and I'm glad they got rid of the kickstand, I find I rarely use mine since it is plugged in all the time and the cord makes it hard to balance. Also the kickstands add bulk, which is not fun.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
There is nothing at all wrong with that. I don't have wimax in my area but when I visited a place with wimax, I rarely used it. It simply isn't a big deal to me right now.

By the time Sprint has an LTE network up and running and spread out to enough areas for people to want it.. there will be more phones to upgrade to. With as fast as technology moves, I never plan on keeping a phone more than ~16 months. I thought I heard it had lte+wimax tho

I also care less about NFC.. what is it good for anyway?
[HTC EVO 3D] blackroseMD1:
You have a very good point...and nowhere in the literature that I can find anywhere on this phone does it specify the chipset. My presumption is, though, that if it did have LTE capabilities (even if they weren't enabled at launch), Sprint would have mentioned that at their event today.

As you mentioned, Sprint needs to have an upgrade path to LTE. With the trouble that Clearwire is having, and the constant push back of 4G availability dates, it's almost not even worth having a 4G phone at this point.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I'm pretty sure that it is the exact same size and weight as the original Evo.
[HTC EVO 3D] blackroseMD1:
Where do you get bulkier from? In the first youtube video posted here, the guy clearly said that the phone was slimmer than the EVO we have now, and weighs 6 ounces.

That doesn't seem any bulkier than the EVO in my hand.

I agree with you on the 3D thing though. I'll probably try it the first couple days I have the phone, and then turn it off for good.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
I could be wrong but I could swear I heard in the livestream that drdrewdown was part of.. that it did have wimax+LTE.
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
It doesn't have both WiMax + LTE radio capability, just WiMax. This guy really done a number to the masses. Sprint does have a few LTE test sites, but it isn't close to being warranted to having dual radios. An SVDO capable chipset is more doable than a dual 4G radio, and that's not available on the device either.

@sgt. slaughter: What memory handling stuff?
[HTC EVO 3D] jyan_osu:
I can see HTC/Sprint omitting this until they have an update to announce it ala the GPS on the Mogul.
[HTC EVO 3D] nabbed:
No HDMI out

No kickstand

=

FAIL
[HTC EVO 3D] jyan_osu:
HDMI out via dongle

http://now.sprint.com/evo3d/?ECID=vanity:evo3d
[HTC EVO 3D] frozndevl:
No video at work, so I am going off of the images I have seen posted and it looked much bulkier to me. Maybe it just lacks the tapering we are used to on the current EVO, I'll eat crow on that one. Still, imagine what they could have done if it wasn't 3D and was just a solid spec upgrade to the current EVO, thinner, better battery life, etc.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
Ok, so maybe it doesn't have wimax+LTE. The sound was shaky at best so I heard it wrong then.

All I can do is get the best phone that takes full advantage of what is out there right now.. the EVO 3D does that and more.

If Sprint goes LTE, then by the time they start it, boom up a network and actually get it to my area.. I'm sure there will be plenty of phones I will be drooling over. Not to mention I'll likely be more than ready for an upgrade.
[HTC EVO 3D] BigRick10:
Has anyone noticed it doesn't have the off screen gingerbread animation!
[HTC EVO 3D] NYCguy2020:
Well,i like the internals of the phone but the design is kinds ugly.also the lack of lte support and no kickstand is another letdown:(. i think i'll pass.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
It is a solid spec upgrade. I fail to see how 3D takes away from anything at all. It is a huge upgrade in damn near every aspect over the current EVO..

People just see 3D and think that's the only new thing to it. I'm at a loss of what else you guys could possibly want.

If you don't like the look that's fine. If you're upset over LTE then you're obviously on the wrong network. If Sprint does go LTE, it is still a long ways off..
[HTC EVO 3D] nabbed:
Ah, that's cool. Too bad though that we'll need to buy new proprietary cables.
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
Did they say if the SoC was MSM8660? Because if the went with the MSM8960, it would have TDD-LTE.
[HTC EVO 3D] blackroseMD1:
It is the MSM8660.
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
Most definitely MSM8660. I've worked directly on the processor that this phone will carry. Sprint to LTE is a done deal, but the next step isn't finalized at all. Sprint and Clearwire still haven't kissed and make up yet, from what I know. I've heard that Sprint have an important announcement tomorrow, so who knows.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rydah:
i dont like the way the camera sticks out, AGAIN... but whatever. I Cant Wait Til The iPhone 5 comes out...

you know. so my Evo 3D can **** all over it. =]
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
+1 on that.
[HTC EVO 3D] frozndevl:
The problem that I have with 3D is that there had to have been sacrifices made to get the 3D on the phone, such as even better battery life (in theory turning to 2D should allow this) thinner, better camera on the back (5mp really?).

As for those talking about LTE, I thought it was pretty well established that they could issue an update for the 4g phones to work on LTE bands.

Don't get me wrong, the internals and screen of this bad boy are badass, I just wish that when they were taking away the things I didn't like (kickstand, hdmi out) they didn't add other things back in. Though I guess if they are trying to differentiate from the iphone, they are doing a very good job.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I really thought you were serious but then I seen the "**** all over it" part. Oh BOY!
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
It does stick out, but, in the livestream they pointed out how it has a little edge around it to prevent the lens from making contact when you sit it down.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
Man im having a problem, im not buying into the whole 3D gimmick, I want a phone that is raw power though. The nexus is looking better but sheesh its Samsung, that alone gives me doubts, and probably no big extended batteries will be available. E3d the whole 3d thing will be something ill never use, and reviews say you'll get a headache after 10 mins of use, I do like the nexus look and screen. Ugh what to do what to do.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
I'll say this again guys.

3D is not at all forced on you. You can turn it completely off with the dedicated toggle switch. Then you will have your normal evo with all the badass upgrades.

They didn't take away HDMI out, it has HDMI out via USB and DLNA. We did lose a kickstand which is a bummer.. but I'll live.
[HTC EVO 3D] kingdazy:
there was some info about the 5mp cams, and it was mentioned that they could work in tandem in some fashion to make 10mp images? (someone confirm?)

and we all know by now that more mp's do not necessarily make better cams.

and it Does have hdmi out, through the usb port.

and kickstand? eh. i use it so rarely, could not really care. small sacrifice to have all of the other specs. both HW and SW upgrades, across the board.

EDIT: I have to say I find it funny/ironic that the same people (not ness. you, frozndevl ;) ) that are complaining about no kickstand are bashing the 3D capabilities. seriously? the stand is a more important feature?
[HTC EVO 3D] BigRick10:
Since people feel like complainging about the 3D then I wont be buying since it doesn't come with the Off Screen Gingerbread animation!!
[HTC EVO 3D] clamknuckle:
Why wouldn't you be able to?
[HTC EVO 3D] blackroseMD1:
I'd go with the Evo 3D. First, it's HTC, not Samsung, so you'll get (somewhat) timely OS upgrades. Second, you don't have to use the 3D part of the phone at all, if you don't want to. Lastly, the specs are awesome, and the dual core power saving abilities are better than what Samsung has. More power + better battery life.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Don't know why people are posting what this phone doesn't have and they have no idea what's inside. Really? Just say you think, cause you don't know ****.

Sent from my HTC Evo running CM7
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-sprint-htc-evo-3d

A decent early review.
[HTC EVO 3D] psirex:
I'm not to keen on the camera bezel and no kickstands (which I use while at work) but I will probably upgrade since my contract was up last March......
[HTC EVO 3D] :
If not having a kickstand makes this phone suck, then the Motorola Razr is the best phone in the world!
[HTC EVO 3D] blackroseMD1:
Well, for those of you who are going to miss the kickstand...you can always get the official HTC kickstand case, I guess.

The funny thing about this video...it's the third one so far where the weather animations haven't worked. Good thing they aren't releasing this today. :p
[HTC EVO 3D] xcomputerman:
In my not-so-humble opinion, a lot of people who are dismissing 3D on smartphones as just a "gimmick" are only doing so because they have not experienced it in person yet. Glasses-free 3D combined with user-generated content is going to be a big winner, and I predict this phone will be an even bigger sales success than the Evo 4G. People are going to walk into stores, pick up one of these bad boys, see cute 3D family photos and say "I want one!". One year from now, all the phone manufacturers are going to jump on the bandwagon after they see the demand, and it will drive sales of 3D televisions (which aren't doing so bad by themselves to begin with, despite over a year of "GIMMICK!" cries by armchair pundits).
[HTC EVO 3D] eviltwin24:
Where is the speaker?
[HTC EVO 3D] m4rk0358:
You have to pay extra for a wired external speaker. It only weighs 3 pounds.
[HTC EVO 3D] frozndevl:
I have to say, I am starting to talk myself into the 3D being alright, but the whole 3D tv sales taking off is just bunk. They are putting the best specs into the 3D tvs and if I were to buy a new tv right now, it would be a 3d tv because of that reason, not because of a technology that requires me to wear sunglasses inside.

@kingdazy - I know you weren't talking about me, I am grateful for the removal of the kickstand, and lambasting the fact the 3d was included. And as for taking out the hdmi, I was referring to the visible port. It just happens to be another feature I've not used.'

I also saw that 2x 5MP = 10mp camera comment, but didn't see it attributed to anything but a forum poster.

@rippley - You are right, no one is forcing me to buy a 3d phone, but you are mistaken when you say it isn't forced on you, you can toggle it off. What you are missing is the opportunity cost of adding the 3d necessitates the removal of other features. So instead of 3d (which I am no longer convinced is a good idea) I may have ended up with an even bigger battery, or thinner form, or different casing (unibody), etc.
[HTC EVO 3D] kingdazy:
this.

tyvm, said far better than I did.

and these are the some folks that are complaining about the lack of kickstand. "gimmick", indeed! ;)

ah. i feared this.
[HTC EVO 3D] jgalan14:
5mp is not bad as long as it takes good pics, just look at the iPhone4 it takes better pics then that evo and even better video, so I hope the evo 3d does the same
[HTC EVO 3D] Award Tour:
Is it just me or is this a ugly looking phone? The metalic camera button is huge and kind of sticks out. The back cameras are huge, and they kept the ugly looking circles around the buttons (why????). Otherwise the specs look nice.

Speaking of which, does it have/use pentile matrix on the display?
[HTC EVO 3D] Justin.G11:
I didn't really care about the new sense UI until I saw those new weather animations .... holy crap those are nice. Google should be taking notes on what one can do with the right launcher.
[HTC EVO 3D] jyan_osu:
What's also cool is the phone has an MHL USB port, which was a standard shown 3 years ago at CES. That means if you have a TV that has MHL HDMI, it can charge the phone and output video using just the USB->HDMI cable.
[HTC EVO 3D] tejasrichard:
I hafta disagree. I love the circles around the buttons on my evo, and I'm glad they kept them on the new phone. There are other things I dislike, like the lack of a kickstand, which I use several times a day, but I still wouldn't call it ugly. Then again, I'm not a huge fan of tiny and sleek. Different stroke for different folks, I guess.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
What features were removed? The HDMI only port? One less port to worry about breaking or collecting dust. It still has HDMI out via USB DLNA. The phone comes with a big battery stock, if it gets much bigger then it will start getting more bulky. Aren't you against that, do you want thinner form or a bigger battery. Besides, battery life is not yet known.

What is known is the Snapdragon allows asynchronous clocking on the two cores which will help save the battery. Something the Tegra 2 doesn't do.

It is virtually the same thickness as the evo, a little taller but also thinner which will help carrying it in the pocket. It is also the exact same weight as the current EVO.

If the phone isn't for you, that's fine. But talking about features that were removed being the reason you didn't get it is just silly. We lost a kickstand... anything you think we "might" have gotten without giving us 3D is grasping, especially if you think it just meant a bigger battery or thinner form.. it's already thin as hell.
[HTC EVO 3D] Justin.G11:
3D sales aren't going so bad? Really?

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/26588/20100603/3d-television-sales-samsung-lg-panasonic.htm

The market isn't buying. Sales are way below what people expected, and the keep pushing back the "year of 3D" which is now "the END of 2011". Look to 3d vision glasses if you want more proof. Who even bothered to make a competing product?

I think EVO/Nintendo 3DS has a better chance as it doesn't require glasses and the industry severely under-estimated what a roadblock that is ... but lets not pretend 3D is some massive game changer. Until large screen TVs provide glasses-free 3D like these little devices can they will never take off and will stay a "niche" product. Do people want pictures they can only properly view on a little handheld in a proprietary standard? Nope, they will be saved as 2d so they cna be shared ... and the gimmick will erased as quickly as it was used.

Technology must be easily acessable to sell. 3D is not ... and is years from being so.

That said I'm still excited about this phone
[HTC EVO 3D] blackroseMD1:
In terms of the battery...I like that they've bumped it up to 1730 mAh, it shows that they are more concerned than before about battery life.

That said, seeing as how the form factors aren't really all that different, I'm hoping that my current Seidio 3500 battery will fit this phone, although with it being a little thinner than the current EVO...who knows.
[HTC EVO 3D] xcomputerman:
In that vein, this is no different. Even if you don't care about 3D, this phone is still a spec-buster. And unlike current 3D TVs that require you to wear glasses, this one does not.

In the end, as with most technology these days, the issue isn't going to be whether or not 3D is a gimmick or whether it requires glasses: it's going to be CONTENT. Availability of great content is what drives sales. Content is why Facebook is successful. Content is why Youtube is successful (and much of that content is smartphone-generated). Content is why Apple is hugely successful, and why webOS floundered despite being a superior user experience. The big reason why 3D on phones is going to be a huge success is user-generated 3D content. I may not care that much about the option to see a blockbuster movie every other month in 3D, but it *does* matter that I can make my own 3D videos any time I like and watch them immediately. It does matter that I can take photos in 3D and share them with my friends, who can also see them in 3D without needing glasses. That's why this thing is going to be a hit.

And if glasses-free 3D TV tech ever finally makes it to the mainstream, user-generated content from phones like this is going to drive demand much more than movies like Avatar ever will.
[HTC EVO 3D] nabbed:
How is that MHL thing different from normal hdmi out?

Does that mean that older tv's with hdmi in won't work with this mhl?