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[General Topics] Androidboy35961:
Why, do everyone thinks this deal will do harm? I want this to happen.
[General Topics] Longcat14:
If my price goes up by even $1 since I'm on contract, I get off without an ETF. :3

Screw you AT&T, I hope that you don't acquire T-Mobile, so that you have to give us $3B, a new roaming agreement, and any AWS spectrum you have basically. :3
[General Topics] Dr.8820:
...because ATT has no unlimited data....because ATT's network is crowded and they're going to put all tmobile's users on it anyway...just think about it, they're going to use Tmo's h+ as their own 4g..how many 4g phones are they going to have....?

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[General Topics] yankees2450:
oh man. same question here
[General Topics] yankees2450:
I'm going to tell my friend about this
[General Topics] spoland:
It's expected to take 12+ months. No one will see any major change for quite a while. For now, the two companies are still competitors.
[General Topics] Keslynn:
I paid an ETF to get away from AT&T because their customer service was so crappy and it was less expensive to get TMo even with the cost of the ETF figured in. I was all nerdy and made a spreadsheet to determine which carrier would be cheapest.

Those of us on the Even More Plus plans don't get an ETF if we jump ship, but we don't get the feeble protection of a contract either. I'm willing to bet that AT&T will axe those plans first. I will stay with the merged company as long as they continue with the Even More Plus pricing but I doubt it will last long. :-(

Also, I don't want crippled Android! You shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get non-Market apps on your phone.
[General Topics] dani26286:
i can understand why some people would say that this merger would be awesome. if their not att's "babies", they're their own consumers who, if they arent grandfathered in some sweet deal for them selfs, than, simply put, they still have the patience and budgetary means to put up with the crap of such a rude company. that and the fact that att is probably already started tu use tmo towers, since it seems thar more iphoners arround me are starting to get the prooer coverage they paid for, but, for most of us tmobilers, this is a bad thing, cuz IT WILL BE THE END OF WHAT ANDROID IS ABOUT, AND THAT IS INNOVATION...AND INNOVATION DOESNT MEAN MONEY, FOR ATT. I GUESS WE SHOULD ALL GO BACK TO THE FLINTSTONE FAMILY TIMES....NOT ME. IM GOING WITH WHO EVER GIVES ME PROPER CS, AND LEGIT RATES. TIMES ARE HARD PEOPLE...A GSM MONOPOLY IS THE LAST THING WE NEED, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT!!!

fyi, there are some very interesting things told back at tmo forums on the issue. give it a look when u get a chance, and also, sign those petitions, cuz this way we at least know we tried to bring up a change in their mentality.
[General Topics] irockstar661:
Att does have a fave five type service. its called VIP and on family plan allows ten numbers.

sent from the galaxy of cm7
[General Topics] irockstar661:
I think you misread. He stated no 3g on T-MO network.

sent from the galaxy of cm7
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They'll honor the contracts, but they'll stop offering those cheaper rates to new customers almost immediately. They'd do it the same day if it wasn't for bad PR.
[General Topics] theqwert:
Just an FYI to anyone who is thinking about Simple Mobile: Apparently their "unlimited" plan is really only a ONE GIG plan, with 10c per meg after that.
[General Topics] androidrookie84:
Do u get the discount off of the 10 smartphone fee?
[General Topics] toukhang:
good news...
[General Topics] Black6spdZ:
someone in the cell tech field answer me this.. I see so many people saying that they "AT$T" will use T-Mo's existing xxxx fill in the blank with bands, towers, etc on future LTE rollout. Tell me if I'm wrong here but this would require outfitting all existing T-Mo cell sites with new equipment to upgrade/update to LTE? If this is true I can't see ATT's plan of buying T-Mo and spending millions/billions more to completely utilize the existing T-Mo network/equipment. In other words, their motive for purchasing T-Mo would fall under one of two categories or both: 1, to take the existing customer base and manipulate the old network in such a way to force a contract plan change incurring higher revenue from the customers and 2, eliminate competition.
[General Topics] Black6spdZ:
why hasn't any money hungry lawyer taken on a huge class action suit against any cell company using the term UNLIMITED? Last I checked the term unlimited means "not restricted, limited, or qualified". Having data cap contridicts this use of the word, therefor opening up grounds for litigation by deception: "the act of misleading another through intentionally false statements or fraudulent actions."
[General Topics] Phateless:
I agree!
[General Topics] emilya:
AT&T and T-mobile are most widely used network. But if both join its going to be difficult for the customers in the changes in the plans.
[General Topics] jjoh280844:
I really think this is going to be bad.

I mean heck, this would create a monopoly in the GSM phone market, making it one dominate GSM company in the market. This would leave two major CDMA networks and AT&T... If Sprint and Verizon Merge / buy one another out, then I fear we have an even bigger problem.

I think AT&T bought T-mobile because of all the iPhone people jumping the shark and taking their phone to T-mobile AND AT&T can't create their own HSPA / LTE network.

I'll hide in my little corner of the world, MetroPCS, until that gets eaten up by someone else.
[General Topics] Jellychristian:
AT&T 10% DiscountArrow

Its great thanks for sharing.
[General Topics] jjoh280844:
Im not even a customer of either company and I signed it. It's just wrong to create a monopoly and AT$T is the worst rated company EVER and T-mobile has a great satisfaction rating. People need the choice and if they limit the choice...we'll its just not right.
[General Topics] HotDog212:
Think Verison will try to buy Sprint?
[General Topics] Tarzanman:
That's not it. The main issue is that after the first 2-3 android phones G1, Hero, and the MyTouch... the other carriers were only lukewarm about android.

Then Verizon launched their 'droid' branding campaign with the original moto droid.

That is when it hit the fan. All the carriers started to realize that Android was a viable alternative to the iPhone without the hassle of letting Steve Jobs shaft you in the pooper.

Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T probably went out and started bidding against each other for the best upcoming Android phones... the 2010 1 GHz models.

T-mobile, having the least amount of money, could only afford 1 or 2 exclusives while Verizon put out like 4 or 5 different android phones in a year's time.
[General Topics] quicksite:
re T-MOBILE's FORUMS are full of angry customers. Plus SIMPLE MOBILE: problems emerge

For anyone interested in seeing the way this is playing out over at T-Mobile's forums, here's page 126 of the thread where T-Mobile made the announcement, and customers are furious.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mob...om-Deutsche-Telekom-FAQs/td-p/785009/page/126

A lot of that furor is being left for the world to see -- and then some gets deleted too by Moderators. But hard to delete 126 pages worth, and going strong.

Here was one of my posts - it was deleted once, probably will be deleted again.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mob...-From-Deutsche-Telekom-FAQs/m-p/795857#M27305

P.S. This was my POST OVER THERE re SIMPLE MOBILE -- It is NOT DELETED. I did thorough digging last night, and of course it was not as good as i had hoped --- nothing could have been that beautiful. Bottom line: They say "unlimited web" for $60, but they cap it at 1 GB per month. Details and USER REVIEW LINKS are all here:

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mob...imited-Plans-On-No-Contract/m-p/795591#M27200
[General Topics] KWKSLVR:
The whole merger makes me want to finally do something with www.attscrewed.me

I've been a T-Mobile customer for probably 10 years other than a 6 month period where I swapped to AT&T in order to get a new Blackberry for free (my old one on T-Mo was pretty much dead). I always had dropped calls (on my blackberry and iPhone), the 3G was slow, and I hated the experience in general. I also have AT&T DSL (for about 10 years as well)....which was great when it was owned and operated by Bellsouth. In the entire time it was operated by Bellsouth I never had 1 outage related to their service. Here locally we've had over subscriber issues, the network dropping, and close to no support in fixing it. You call and you get India. India tells you, "we're monitoring your line and we'll identify and fix the problem ASAP" Come to find out from one of the local companies that is contracted out by AT&T to do line testing and repair, India can't even SEE data about the network. They're completely cut off. All they can see is your account info.

The only time I've gotten anything out of AT&T was when I've just SLAMMED the company hardcore on Twitter with stuff like speed test results and general complaining - which shouldn't be necessary. But, getting 1 Meg on my 6 Meg DSL shouldn't have happened for 12 hours out of the day every day either. This is a company that doesn't even monitor their own network. Myself and three friends having the same problem had to run traceroutes and tell them where the freaking problem was and even then, it took them about two weeks to properly identify what was causing problems at that NIC and then figure out how to solve it (which involved rerouting a ton of subscribers). I used to get nearly 7 megs down, now I'm capped at 5.75 megs down and according to the aforementioned contracted company, AT&T lowered the "Acceptable Speed" on their 6 Meg lines from 4.8Mpbs down to something like 3.8Mpbs down (I'm not recalling that correctly, this was several months ago).

I'll give AT&T this, when you get someone with a brain, they're VERY helpful, they call you back when they're suppose to, and for the most part they don't feed you a line (provided you're knowledgeable enough to present yourself as someone that isn't going to fall for a line). But in order to get someone with a brain you have to do an obscene amount of work.

AT&T will honor T-Mobile contracts because they'll be legally bound to do so. However, I don't see that many people sticking with their current contracts once their service is essentially degraded due to no longer having 3G towers that operate on the same frequency as their phones.

People like me that are EM+ Plan users that despise the very notion of contracts will probably get axed first. I can just see it now, 30 days to swap your plan and then your service is disconnected and your number held for 60 days.

My current plan is to wait and see if the merger is approved, and once it is I'll jump ship to Verizon. I want to do my part to devalue AT&T's purchase as much as possible and you should too.
[General Topics] CrackerJacks:
That's good, thanks
[General Topics] Phateless:
Wow, people are fired up over there. I'm just sad.
[General Topics] bobbyphoenix:
I'm considering this. I sent them an email yesterday because they have a list of "approved" phones, and neither the Nexus One or Desire HD are listed, and those are the two phones I have. If I can use them I'm switching. I use about 600 MB of data a month, and that is stretching it. It's probably around 400, but 600 was my max once.
[General Topics] bobbyphoenix:
I stand corrected! After posting I went back to their phone list. Now the N1 is there.
[General Topics] zuben el genubi:
Of course we are upset. And there is information we simply cannot find out. Flexpay(prepaid) is being switched to EM+. But EM+ also has postpaid plans which is what I have. I also prefer to buy my phone outright - mostly unlocked. I also use my own wifi a lot. TM didn't seem to care where I got the phone from. I got just as much help with a Galaxy 3 as I would with a TM phone. I also like no contract per se. I don't mind paying for the services I want, but do object to paying to help subsidize someone else's phone. I intend to unlock the Galaxy S 4G and root it.

Since I mostly use my own wifi for data at home, on TM I don't need a data plan since I brought my own phone and use wifi. (I have TTW EMP+)

ATT will have to do something with wifi calling. I don't care if it uses minutes or not. Looking at a coverage map of both ATT and TM, the four corners area is still devoid of much. You can find wifi in almost any motel. I don't think my vacations and preferred territory should depend on carrier in this day and age. (Line of sight doesn't count. No carrier deals with that)

Everyone is concerned over the bands. My Galaxy 3 should work, the S4G will be Edge. Doesn't matter for voice if I can get to wifi. If I use the Galaxy 3, I'm on Edge, and it makes no difference as to voice and text.

Then there's LTE. Everyone is concerned about that, but no one will say what is going to happen to voice only customers who don't care about data.

I will stick with TM as far as I can. :p
[General Topics] quicksite:
That's great. This sounds like a stupid question -- and it is -- but sometimes the simplest things I just don't even know how to do. How do I find out my monthy web data usage? Since for past 6 years i have being paying for "unlimited web" at tmobile, i never ever monitor it. Thus, i don't know where it's counted. Is it avail from my phone under "my account", or from web?

and if so, i'd need to look at at least 6 months of usage to see my pattern, dont you think? I consider myself a heavy web user, but for all i know, i may fall under 1 GB... I don't do that much video streaming at all. Music streaming yes, via pandora.

ALSO: if you happen to email them again -- since you're actually way further along than i am -- could you ask "what HAPPENS when you ARE over the 1GB? do they charge excessively? do they just cut off access??"

thanks either way, and good luck, glad they have your phone. I was happy to see the mytouch4G is usable!
[General Topics] blushrts:
Just like in this case where the carrier with cheaper plans, with better data plans, and a better selection of phones (I don't give a crap about the iphone) wins out right?

Hopefully as a conservative you don't have any problems with the merger, but millions of TMobile customers (me included) are getting the shaft.

I don't trust most people as far as I can throw them, and I certainly don't trust corporate America or the clowns that run Wall Street to act in an ethical manner. The reason I feel the Government should take an interest in regulating is that I can vote out anyone who I don't like. I have no control over anyone in business. Maybe we as voters could give other parties a chance instead of limiting ourselves to the two parties in charge now.
[General Topics] blushrts:
quicksite, I use 3G Watchdog to monitor usage. I'm not sure if it is Android only though.
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
That 1GB cap is ridiculous.

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[General Topics] I Am Marino:
Keep letting them have it T Mobile supporters.

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[General Topics] Dr.8820:
You hit it on the head with your last sentence. Tmobile H+ hits 21 mbps, about to be switched to 42mbps...ATT can't touch that now.

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[General Topics] Dr.8820:
Plus the Motorola atrix people are mad because ATT is throttling their 4g....this is what us tmo users are going to have to deal with....

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[General Topics] TheBiles:
While I like the expanded network and LTE access, but I think they are going to ruin T-Mobile's fantastic customer support and wonderfully cheap prices (and unlimited data!).

This may also be the case for me. I don't think I would go back to Sprint because WiMAX was horribly disappointing, so I may end up on the Big Red if I'm already going to be paying out the ass with AT&T-Mobile.
[General Topics] Tachi91:
The thing that people have to understand (no offense just saying).. Is that to build new towers for LTE or for that matter to expand their network AT&T would have to file in every city build plans and have to wait approval by that particular city whether or not they can build that tower in the given location.. Why wait so long to build new towers when you can just buy off a company with already towers in that given location and avoid the contruction laws and wait time for any city... Then they can just replace the equipment on those towers that are providing tmobiles 3G signal with new LTE equipment.. So AT&T will be able to release their LTE network faster then having to build new towers.. And with the AWS band of tmobile they are able to develope their LTE in that signal with out having to buy or wait untill the government releases more spectrum...

So AT&T instead of wasting money and time on individual city's and their building code.. They can just use T-Mobiles preexisting Towers and replace them with new LTE antennas using the AWS spectrum they get along with the merger... AT&T probably don't care about customers coming over since they will have hell of alot better coverage and quality and have an active LTE network

They Save TIME and probably money as well depending on how much each city will cost if they went with building new towers

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And as for Simple Mobile sure they may seem like the company to switch to but right now they use T-mobiles AWS signal for their 3G so when and if AT&T shuts down T-Mobile 3G signal... Simple Mobile will loose their 3G signal as well and if they partner with AT&T then they will switch to AT&Ts spectrum and in the end you have to end up using another phone if you want 3G
[General Topics] jhorner:
This merger, should it go through, would create a monopoly on GSM service in the United States...there is no other way to look at it.
[General Topics] Tachi91:
Technically any GSM phone should work on their Network, but then it depends if you want 3G then you need a 3G T-Mobile phone... And if AT&T shutdown T-mobiles 3G signal so does Simple Mobiles
[General Topics] MartyLK:
Would anyone buy a new T-Mobile phone now?

Considering T-Mobile will be no more in about 1 to 2 years, would anyone dare to spend the huge amount of money to buy one of the high-tech new smartphones coming from T-Mobile in the next month or two? The HTC Pyramid has Atrix-like specs and the LG G2x is sounding sweet. But knowing the 3G/4G data won't work on those new phones in a year or two, would anyone risk it?

There is talk that AT&T will move the T-Mobile data network over to LTE or it's own 4G. T-Mobile and AT&T's data networks aren't compatible. That means you can't use your T-Mobile branded 3G/4G smartphone on AT&T data network. Nor can you use your AT&T branded 3G/4G smartphone on T-Mobile data network.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
No doubt it will harm the consumer. At a minimum it will waste the data ability of current T-Mobile phones. That means your high-end, high-dollar smartphones won't be able to use their 3G/4G data capability. Plus it will ensure AT&T overlords it on us consumers and raises rates astronomically. Being the only GSM carrier, AT&T can basically do what they want because the millions of iPhones out there are limited to AT&T data networks. As well as all other GSM smartphones branded by AT&T. You can't use your $500 Atrix on Verizon or Sprint. Not even for cell service. With T-Mobile, you could still use the cell service and Edge.
[General Topics] FLAC Vest:
Well I have seen a few articles stating that Tmobile iis making phones or having g things done to "future proof " their phones; I do honestly think that with the Pyramid and other phones coming out will be able to be transerred over to ATT when the time comes.
[General Topics] TrueYears:
looked very promising......... too bad it has that nasty 1GB cap
[General Topics] MartyLK:
That would ensure continued sales. If I could use a future Pyramid on AT&T data networks, I wouldn't hesitate to acquire one when available. Lets hope they do it.
[General Topics] TrueYears:
GX2 Will be a quadband phone so it will work with AT&T sucks my G2 wont I am HOPE they dont tell me something like ," well, heres what, we will honor your data plan for the same plan but in return you need to make a new contract with us once those 2 years (or the time left in your contract is out and in exchange we ll give you a FREE upgrade to our latest android phones"
[General Topics] MartyLK:
Most phones are quadband, but that just means they are compatible with cell service and Edge networks of all the GSM carriers. They aren't compatible regarding the data service. AT&T and T-Mobile use distinctly different frequencies that aren't compatible with each other. So when you see a spec saying a phone is quadband capable, it doesn't mean the 3G/4G networks are compatible.
[General Topics] TrueYears:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-from-lg-hands-on-video/

from what I understand from other sites reviewing the G2X is that it will work with ATTs 4G bands as well
[General Topics] Step666:
You think it's a coincidence?

The better T-Mobile are doing, the more they're worth to sell off.

They did it here in the UK (except they weren't sold to Orange, it's a 50/50 merger), they did it in the Netherlands - turn it around, make it profitable and get rid of it while the going's good...
[General Topics] MartyLK:
That's outstanding. Maybe they will do the Nexus S that way also...I hope. Been wanting a Nexus S, and had plans to buy one. But since the AT&T fiasco, I have backed out of it. Currently there is talk of a Sprint based Nexus S, so I doubt T-Mobile or Google will update the GSM Nexus S with a quadband 3G/4G radio.
[General Topics] Tazzaras:
and to all the people that still think this merger will not happen...AT&T spends the most money on lobbyists than any other corporation and regardless what anyone says money talks in anything. THey let Comcast merger go through as well as XM Sirius...how is AT-Tmobile any different, at least with this there are still wireless providers left
[General Topics] MartyLK:
In the previous admin, no, it wouldn't be blocked. But this admin isn't all corporation happy. I have high hopes, as time goes by, the situation will boil over and this admin will listen.
[General Topics] Step666:
If (and it is still an if, no matter what your opinion on the matter) AT&T take over T-Mobile, all existing T-Mobile contracts will be honoured for at least the remainder of their term.

So really there's no difference taking a T-Mobile contract now to having taken on last week - even if T-Mobile continue to exist as a separate entity, there's no saying that by the time you finish your existing contract that they'll still be offering the best deal or that the 'next big handset' you want will be carried by them.

So really there's absolutely no reason not to get a T-Mobile contract, provided they're offering what you need.
[General Topics] zuben el genubi:
I just got the GS4G two weeks ago. I bought it as I can read the screen. I use the phone mostly as a PDA, and my own wifi when I'm home, speed of the network doesn't bother me. I have unlocked European phones, and never noticed the difference. Where speed does bother me - how fast can the phone load the page of a PDF I'm reading?

Trouble is - there's a new kicker. ATT might divest 40% of customers to Sprint. Only problem with Sprint is CDMA. I prefer GSM.

Z