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[Windows Phone 7 General] shasul:
I know some are trolling , Android has more free apps , just buying it for the speaker , but isnt there any possibility to install android on it ? like dualboot?
[Windows Phone 7 General] amtrakcn:
Why not just buy an phone with Android? Ported ROMs usually have tons of problems.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
Keep wp7 on it Android is un secure and was built with stolen code
[Windows Phone 7 General] tiny17:
I can't imagine because I don't believe the surround is very popular hardware. Since those mods are usually pretty hardware specific, those types of mods are usually only made for more popular devices.
[Windows Phone 7 General] shasul:
Alright but will there be any browser available for WP7 that supports flash?
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
no there's not as we've clearly stated. You would have to have access to the bootloader which only one person has done by accident and it bricked their device. You would then have to pretty much rebuild the entire phone from the ground up code-wise. It is possible given months, maybe years but no one is going to spend 1/10th that time on such a terrible phone. The os is the only redeeming quality about that device. We are not trolling, you came to the wp7 forums and asked about putting Android on your device. We informed you it could not be done and told you our opinions of the idea... Sounds like a thread to me... You're just hunting for a yes where there's none to be had.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
at this point in time no. That is not Microsoft fault. That is Adobe.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ How is that Adobe fault? Please clarify, as I am truly interested.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Adobe s not created a version of flash for wp7 a new version has to be created for each os that it works on. Not that it will really matter after html 5 but Microsoft has nothing to do with building the program.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
even before WP7 was released, both MS and Adobe said jointly that they were committed to bringing flash to windows phone. I believe the hold up is in agreeing to an implementation that would satisfy both companies (for MS, it's implementing it without a compromise to speed or security, and for Adobe it's being feature rich and fully functional).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Androidboy35961:
Go buy a Android or a iPhone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Crimson Lotus:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=840009

:rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] shasul:
What about this then?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=945565
[Windows Phone 7 General] shasul:
The tool allows C/C++/Obj-C source code to be automatically converted to JS/C#/AS, so that the apps can be moved to WP7 platform easily.

Heres how:

“The C/C++/Obj-C sourcecode is automatically converted to JS/C#/AS, furthermore getting interoperability between these languages. This allows you to develop games and applications conversions from platforms like iOS or Android to Windows Phone 7 or Web in an easy and agile way.“

Apparently developers were able to port iPhone games to WP7 in just 2 weeks using this tool.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Apps are completely different from a complete OS, that's just a program to help with porting. A lot of the things that people do with their android devices here would be impossible due to the lack of proper APIs on WP7 (they are there just un-released.) Regardless though there wont be a way for years to come and likely never to port Android onto the surround.
[Windows Phone 7 General] caffeinated chris:
Its not stolen if its open source... hahaha.

Thats like saying you raped your wife while she was consensually screaming yes.

Thats the whole point of android; cusomization. hence open source.

Of course he could go just get an android phone. But we arent here to discuss that. He wanted to know if its possible.

My guess, yes, it will be available. But as of right now, not available looks like. I was wondering the same thing because I put android on my buddy's HD2 and he loved it, he also loves windows. He sometimes switches back and forth. Now he wants a new phone and he's interested in Samsung Focus or HTC Surround and asked if I could look to see if android is available so he can dual-boot like his HD2.

now lets calm down on the trolling and flaming and help answer the question.
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
or alternatively you didn't have to respond and gravedig a month old topic...:cool:
[Windows Phone 7 General] deltafire006:
haha

Its not a windows / android debate... u cannot compair the 2 android is for entertainment as wp7 us clearly business and on the go.. andways sooner or later you will be able to duelboot or just boot android on the wp7 device just not now there's not drivers for the hardware in the wp7.

SORRY FOR the misspells I am getting use to this keyboard. Posted from my g2. Android 2.3.3 speedy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
You're way off, in fact I never could use my android device for entertainment purposes beyond Angry Birds. Android has some business features I wouldn't mind seeing in WP7 but WP7 is the entertainment phone. With zunepass, netflix, xbox live, just everything it is 1000 times the entertainment phone android is.
[Windows Phone 7 General] PeartFan40:
LOL...too funny
[Windows Phone 7 General] conantroutman:
Wow.... thanks for breathing some life into this waste of a thread.

Might never have been closed otherwise....:cool:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] andrusca:
Do WP7 ROMS on HD2 have the Wi-Fi router option ? I mean not Wifi connection, but to give to other stations Internet...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hjhjhj:
Nope...not yet. It is very desired ability people are looking for though...I'm sure someone will develop something soon.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] TEKHD:
I really hope something is dev soon... I am currently using the risky DFRouter App. that could get me stuck in modem mode for ever & ever at any moment... Also it would be really great to have ad-hoc support... (in order to see & connect to ad-hoc signals) Take care everyone...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] gaurangsaini:
Officially supported in mango!

*bump*

wpcentral.com/mango-officialy-supports-internet-sharing-mobile-hot-spot-feature

Now that it is official, will we have this feature baked into custom roms? tried searching, but could not find anything related to it :confused:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rogerthacctant:
I'm interested in this too! Its one of my biggest barriers from switching from android. I Frequently tether to use instant messaging and for evernote syncing when i'm out studying in places without wifi
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] tay200k:
Isn't that true for only real wp7 phones about getting stuck in modem mode?
[Android Software Development] buachaille:
Not finding this in search so thought I'd post.

I'm trying to open the sdk emulator but I keep getting the same error (you'll see it in the attached jpg). I have been through the whole config twice and I have all packages installed in sdk and eclipse (I am pretty sure anyway).

Please don't anyone waste much time on an answer as I'm only just dipping my toe into the water right now, but I'd like to know if it's an obvious error. I thought the file path was just set wrongly, but its pointing to the correct folder with the newly created img files in it (sdcard.img and userdata.img).
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoseth0711:
Hey when i unlock my dhd there is a sound that sounds like its breathing. Anyone who knows what it is? Im running leedroid Gingerbread sense
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EgorkaSanyok:
That sounds creepy. I'm running ARHD 3.2, and sometimes when I wake it up, it makes the max phone ringer sound, still odd though.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoseth0711:
Well found out what the solution was. You have to disable sound effects in the weather app.
[Droid X General] crazyjoejoe:
Hello,

I have a quick question.

I rooted my droid x with the z4 root program, downloaded the bootstrap program and created a backup, and installed the Liberty 1.5 rom.

So far so good. Sometimes after I charge the phone I get a clockwork recovery screen but from what I under stand that is normal???

Is there anything else I need to be doing or am I doing everything right?

I am about to root my wifes droid 2 global and want to make sure Im doing it right before I do hers.

Thanks
[Droid X General] joelbon:
That is one way of getting into recovery if you have a fatal problem and can't boot the phone. You plug the phone into an a/c outlet and turn the phone on. It will boot into clockworkmod. Normal behavior. :-)
[Droid X General] crazyjoejoe:
Copy that thanks.

What about my other question regarding if I need to be doing anything else so I dont mess up my phone?
[Droid X General] Jmoney47:
No I think you've done everything right. Now you just have to enjoy it :)
[Droid X General] crazyjoejoe:
Thanks! Just wanted to make sure
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] chadster214:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/more-information-att-acquires-tmobile
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] TheShadowMan:
I think I'm going to be sick... :(
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] chadster214:
same here..:mad:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] maktucali:
wtf!

guess we'll get charged for tethering soon.. and no more unlimited data if upgrade our plans.. this is bull! i hate att
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Sirithe:
It's supposed to take at least a year for everything to clear so we should be set with what we have on our contracts for now. Once its all officially through though, we're basically f*cked, I hate AT&T
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] maktucali:
att better keep the 1700 band for our 3g/4g tmo capable devices... that would suck if they decide to kick out the 1700 band.. we'll be on edge...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] sanfranx415:
Ugghhh

I must honestly say I hate AT&T and I already voiced my opinion by calling customer service and telling them I will switch if the merger goes through I hate them so much.....

Well we'll see right!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] chadster214:
AT&T&T-Mobile

AT&T&T-Mobile crap!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] orionshock:
Well i'll be switching to Sprint

Im too cheep to be paying Verizon
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] nwpro3:
I'm with TMO because I chose not to be with AT&T when Alltel sold out to them. I will be shopping around and be ready to move if our government doesn't put a stop to this. I had cingular and their service sucked. This is not good.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Yogi3:
Man im going to change to Sprint now that this is going down. Im just waiting for that Nexus S 4G to come out and they also will have the Motorola Xoom. And hey it dosen't hurt i have a causing that works at Sprint ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mavictb:
I have mixed emotions about this... although it will be nice to have LTE which this merger is sure to make more available for both carriers. sigh... Thats what i get for switching to tmobile to get away from att and verizon.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Yogi3:
Dont fall to the Evil Empire of AT&T and let their AT ATs walk all over you... :p

Now that the jokes are out of the way if you dont think AT&T is Evil read the bellow link:

AT&T to introduce data caps on DSL

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20042839-266.html

Only someone or something like the Darkside wait AT&T would think of things like that ;) :p :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] maktucali:
comcast

comcast has 250g cap. and i went over it a few times this year. thats when i was collecting all my favorite movies in mkv 720/1080p quality.. and a lot of xbox360 games... but yeah i got them all and only a few good ones come out every week so i average around 100 to 200 every month. i dont hulu or stream any video i rather download the damn thing and play on my blueray
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] j3.cole:
This is my 1st negative post. This sucks, there goes customer service
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] SonnyInAz:
In 2000 I needed to find a new provider, mine was sucking pretty hard at the time. I switched to AT&T. I brought my new phone home, (some kinda peanut shaped motorola) and waited for service. 2 days later still waiting for service. I called customer service to find out why my service wasn't activated yet. The csr I was speaking to, couldn't give me any kind of a reasonable answer as the "it could take up to 48 hrs to activate" time frame had expired. I eventually asked to speak with a svc mgr, which they promptly brought on the phone. He eventually sent me to tech support and here is what I was told. this is the honest to Gods truth. "When the shuttle was landing 3 days ago, it was rerouted from cape Canaveral to Edwards air base in California, it passed too close to our 'programming' tower and caused it to fail and has not yet been restarted." I immediately went back to the store and returned my phone and cancelled my contract, and signed with a company called "voice stream", which eventually became T-mobile.
[HTC 7 Pro] awrnsmn:
Well I picked up my Arrive this morning and I have to say I'm extremely impressed! I am coming from Android (EVO & Epic) and think that Microsoft has something here with mobile 7. I believe I like it better than Android so far. Well built device, seamlessly synced with all my accounts including my Google calender, Netflix is awesome, love the tiles on the homescreen, size of the device is good, and the keyboard with the pop-up screen is perfect, better keyboard than the Epic....by far.

I was wondering what other Sprint users thoughts were now that the Arrive is released. Are you feeling the same way I am and did you come from Android?

EDIT: Windows mobile 7 is nothing like the old windows mobile....not even close!
[HTC 7 Pro] cyclical:
I came from a Touch Pro 2 (WM 6.5.). I picked up one for my wife and one for myself, so far I am really digging it. It definately works very well, smooth.
[HTC 7 Pro] esmartuek:
Just like Cyclical, I also picked one up for myself and one for my wife. We've been spending all day playing with the phones. I still haven't fully figured out the tiles, but I personally come from the wonderful line of WM phones (Apache/6700, TP1, TP2). I've played with android in the past and I know lots of people who have android phones. The overall response I have gotten from those that know a computer from a cinder block is that Android is massively frustrating if you are used to XDA/PPCG kitchen roms for WM. Some went so far as to proclaim WM6.5.3 on TP2 as the most advanced phone they know of (this said 2 weeks ago). They have high expectations for the Arrive, and I can honestly tell them that they will not be disappointed.

Everything listed by the OP is spot on.

The Marketplace is definitely much larger than it was for WM5/6. The apps that I grabbed were all very useful (and free), which is a step above the spotty development that had previously been on the Marketplace.
[HTC 7 Pro] IM0001:
Picked mine up Sunday as well. So far loving the device. Everything is fluid, fast, and has not had a single hickup throught my setup and customization.

Coming from a long line of Windows Mobile devices, while I will miss a few apps and abilities I have been able to do, (IRC, Wifi Router) I feel they will be around in time so it is no great loss. The Fantastic multimedia and games more than make up for it.

The only issue that vexed me is how in the heck Microsoft Created MyPhone for Windows Mobile devices, and it is completely separate from Windows Live. So there is no way to sync your MyPhone content to WP7 nor is there a way to select what you want to sync except e-mail from your live account. :mad:

It is a minor hickup and the Outlook Connector for Hotmail did work out ok, but I had to pretty much clear my old Live accounts contacts as it was a collection of people from long ago. What bums me out is there is no way to move or archive them like in MyPhone and currently there is no way to backup your Text Messages like MyPhone has done for a while now.

Either way besides that minor hurdle, everything is synced and smooth. I just now need to balance out my battery usage. The good thing is the Arrive uses the same battery as the TP2 and the EVO. Ebay sales quality batteries for around $2 and they perform a hair better than OEM ones. Great stuff.

Everything else about the phone that is positive from other reviews holds true to this phone as well so I will not repeat a bunch of stuff we already know. All I know is it is nice to finally have a phone that Just Works, is Smooth, Fast, and fun to use again without having to make it all work. I tried an EVO for a month and while I do enjoy its customizability and such, it just doesn't feel near as finished, fast, smooth, or overall reliable. I did run into the Texting Issue that it had at the end of last year and while it was minor, it was just another bug that among a number of others, just keep things from feelind Complete.
[HTC 7 Pro] goulav:
Arrive!

Coming from a string of Android devices, Hero, Moment, Transform, and Evo... I have to say I'm a little weirded out about NOT having an android device. I did get a BB Bold when they came out but I went right back to android. We got this phone in our store a few weeks ago and while I haven't been able to use it as my only device, I have had a good run with it.... Like y'all, I'm heavy into customization and roms with anroid. (haven't used winmo since the original blackjack) So here's my take so far...

Gmail on Android is the best email experience ever! Windows PHone gets the job done well, I'd say between BB and Android...

No way I've found to turn 'mobile data always on' like on Htc android devices...

No compass! (sounds goofy as ****, but that's the second main reason I returned the BB Bold)... I do use it.

Camera Apps..... I'd really like to be an amateur photographer and love the camera apps for android.... (THE main reason for returning the Bold)... but I think I'm just going to use an old hero I have for out and about pictures (both my dslr and regular slr bit the dust so I rely on the Evo for pictures, but when I found out I was getting the arrive I sold it) ............

Camera isn't on par with Evo, Shift or Hero... Not even close. Again, I use my phone A LOT for pictures.

Speed test app??????????????? (again, this will come, I hope)

Can't use custom ringtones or notification sounds out the box... not a biggie because I use default ringtones, but I HATE the default notifications on all phones. I use the 'Facebook Pop' sound from the android app because it's simple, low key and not annoying as hell. So, I need to be able to use another notification sound.

Can't sideload music... have to go through Zune. Bummer. I have Linux Mint on my computer, Chrome/Ubuntu on my laptop and Mint on my wife's laptop. I'm screwed.............

I honestly think the UI is one of the best around... Fluid, solid and well thought out. It makes sense... instead of hitting MENU for everything, just slide over... I like it.

No freezing or locking up.... so far.... really stable.

One of the best hardware keyboards... ever.

Loud.

Touch is surprisingly good! I figured it would take a while to get right, but no. It's nice!

Being a long time google user, bing will take some getting used to... unless a hack to remap the search button can be directed to google......

voice dialing works well...

XBOX and NETFLIX.............................. Why would anyone even question the awesomeness of this??? Worth it... Well worth it!

There are some negatives, and Winmo has a bad rap, but damn, this is almost a sexy UI. It really doesn't leave much to be desired once you use it for a few days. this isn't your daddy's windows phone....
[HTC 7 Pro] sketchy9:
I think that's really the crux of the issue. I come from a long history of tinkering with WM5, WM6, and Android on the HTC Apache, Vogue, Touch Diamond, and Hero. I have spent more hours than I care to think about trying to tweak and improve the stock functions of those phones, all with the goal of having a fast, stable phone. The sad thing is that despite my best efforts, there was never a point at which I was happy with those phones. Sure I added features (I remember how excited I was when I applied an A2DP hack on the old Apache) but stability and performance were never good.

By comparison, WP7 as you said just WORKS. I never have to worry about memory management or closing out programs. The launcher always opens apps quickly and I can access and send SMS and make calls quickly without delay (unlike my Hero). Is it full-featured? Of course not. The biggest omission IMO is a fast app switcher; I find myself spending more time than I would like trying to game the workflow of app openings to take advantage of fast "rehydrating" using the back button. But that's it. I don't need WiFi tethering, and Flory and GoVoice do quite nicely for Gtalk and Google Voice. And Sprint TeleNav takes care of GPS navigation. The biggest thing is I feel no need to root or flash a new ROM just to make it work with CORE functions. I'm VERY happy with it.

-R
[HTC 7 Pro] cyclical:
Doesn't the Arrive have a digital compass listed as a feature? Just need to download an app that uses it right?
[HTC 7 Pro] goulav:
Yes... but no apps.

The only compass apps availible are GPS based. Microsoft has said the compass api is availible but no one has utilized it yet.

It seems that HTC has a compass app that DOES use the hardware and not GPS. It wasn't there last week when I checked!
[HTC 7 Pro] cyclical:
Actually read online that the API as of January still wasn't opened to the public.
[HTC 7 Pro] goulav:
htc...

Which may be why HTC is the first to release one?
[HTC 7 Pro] corelle:
JUST jumped from the evo! im really feeling this for now I get bored easily I have had ever highend phone sprint ever offered...I might stay with this and even skipp the evo 3d if its not so smooth and useful
[HTC 7 Pro] steveo70:
Couldn't agree more with you and the other posts. Loving WP7! My one minimal complaint is the side charging port. No big deal, but sucks if you try to pick it up and use it while plugged in.
[HTC 7 Pro] DrDr3z85:
Custom Ringtones????

I picked up the Arrive yesterday for my wife because i just couldn't give my EVO up but I wanted a wp7 phone. Anyways I have to agree with almost everyone here, sexy UI, fast, digging the tiles, and all the good love blah blah blah. I'm a XDA fanatic and a flashaholic and is killing me to not be able to load custom ringtones to the Arrive like i do in my Evo. I hate the stock ringtones it comes with. Does anyone have a solution, workaround, hack, zip, file, ritual, plan, anything to get this done?? Thanks
[HTC 7 Pro] jaqual:
Deleted content, was more appropriate to a different thread...
[General Questions and Answers] elvensbane:
I'm trying to find a nice fast phone, i'm looking for an android operating system that has launcher 2 and the eris style widgets can someone point me in the direction of a decent phone xD? i though i'd ask on here... ;)

the images i attached is what i'm trying to find.. :]

Or, second option could someone help me get my eris to look like this :O? it's rooted..
[General Questions and Answers] jcruiser89:
Install CM7 and use launcher pro for the sense widgets.
[General Questions and Answers] turbo614:
i had launcher pro on my eris(she has passed on now :()and worked beautifully!
[General Questions and Answers] ozten:
desire hd ftw
[General Questions and Answers] andys93:
i'd go for an htc desire hd
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BAleR:
Ive looked everywhere. I just wanna overclock this beast. Can someone help?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BAleR:
Anybody???
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noodles2224:
Yea, use the bacon bits in the dev forum
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noflopscott:
Did you search the Development forums
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BAleR:
Ya, but everything i tryed dont work, there isnt just a oc'ed kernel that i can flash and use setcpu?