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[LG Optimus 2x] Mr. Spontaneous:
There's no requirement that only Nexus/developer phones have unlockable bootloaders. It's rare, yes, but not unheard of.

But I want to get one now. You know, before T-Mobile gets absorbed by a horrible carrier. That's why I'm only considering a multicore device. With all of the quadcore phones floating around several months in the future, I'll need something that can at least manage to stick with them in some areas.

CM and others also support other devices. The Evo dev community is strong, as are ones around other, non-Nexus phones.

I will still pull the futureproof card, because of the reasons I've stated. I think you and I have differing definitions of the word, though. I'm going for something that, spec wise, can match the next gen of devices on some level - not just run the latest version of Android.
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Zephik is right it will definitely NOT have a OEM unlock for the bootloader. And if you can tell us a phone that has other than the nexus line and is produced by Samsung, HTC, Motorola or LG, then I will be massively supprised as I have not heard of one outside of Google's own phones.

JD

Sent from my Google Nexus Magic Wand S
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Its so rare its never happened;)

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[LG Optimus 2x] Mr. Spontaneous:
Hehe, yeah. It may be pie in the sky, but a guy can dream :-) The speculation is half of what makes new devices so appealing.

And, the GeeksPhone One was a fun, unlocked phone ;D
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Lol, yeah I understand ya,

Really all devices should come with the option to unlock and if we choose to unlock we lose warranty, that's the fair exchange;)

Sent from my Google Nexus Magic Wand S
[LG Optimus 2x] instigator008:
Paul (MoDaCo) has found that the 2x is easy to mod! Hopefully the g2x is the same:

http://android.modaco.com/content/l...dev-progress-findings-braindump/#entry1644618
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Who says it even needs OEM unlock? Lots of phones have come with unlocked bootloaders + fastboot support.
[LG Optimus 2x] zephiK:
The discussion is not whether if we need oem unlock or not. Look at the upcoming new phones that are coming out by HTC. They're coming out with signed bootloaders that make it more difficult to root/modify recovery and all that. Is it permanent? No. Will it delay the process slightly? Yeah.

If HTC wants to go to the extreme level then they'll do what Motorola does.

And the only phones to my knowledge with 'fastboot oem unlock' are the Nexus series and possibly ADP phones?

These are the only phones that are legit unlocking the bootloader. The other phones if they have unlocked bootloaders then it was done through other methods.

Fastboot oem unlock is a unlock that is authorized by the manufacturer.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
I meant that there are phones that have shipped from factory with unlocked bootloaders.

The rather popular ZTE Blade is one.

But you're right about the fastboot oem unlock business though.
[LG Optimus 2x] zephiK:
And the GeekPhones One. They aren't very popular in the U.S though.
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Hence you saw that I wrote Samsung, HTC, Motorola and LG. I thing even considering any other brands is pretty much being pedantic, especially as these OEMs stated account for well over 90 percent of all android phones.

The state of play now is that bootloaders will be locked down and made pretty much impregnable. This new OEM drive was started with Motorola clamping down with the Droid X, even though that was eventually hacked;)

Like I said, the solution is give us the choice and let us lose our warranty if we unlock, its the only way forward.

JD

Sent from my Google Nexus Magic Wand S
[LG Optimus 2x] :
The GP1 and the zte blade are pretty much pants phones;)

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[LG Optimus 2x] :
Agreed;)

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[LG Optimus 2x] avetny:
htc gonna die until gonna create better GPU.

my next phone Samsung galaxy s 2. (not with tegra ****)
[LG Optimus 2x] Mr. Spontaneous:
According to Paul O'Brien of Modaco fame, all it takes for the Optimus 2X is booting into recovery with a key-hold combination and one can flash to the system. This is a pretty glowing recommendation. Of course, that's the EU version of the device, but this is a promising development.
[LG Optimus 2x] zephiK:
The Galaxy S was easy to root/replace Recovery. And look at their development, all of their ROMs are mainly compiled from the latest OTA or from Samsung leaks not from AOSP source. With the exception of CM6 and CM7 but it hasn't received much attention in Galaxy S.

It doesn't really prove anything, also.. not to mention the incompatibility between Galaxy S I9000 vs. Vibrant vs. other Galaxy S phones. It'll probably be the same for Optimus 2X and the G2x due to the radio differences.

It's too early to speculate the future of G2x's development. Only way to find out is to wait and see. With HTC locking all their new phones, it'll be interesting to see how LG responds to the development community. If they respond positively, they could make a big name for themselves.
[LG Optimus 2x] jlevy73:
One of my engineers lives in the far east and visited me yesterday with his 2X. Gotta say I wasn't impressed. Sure I only played with it for about an hour but so I can't comment on battery life or call quality. Performance wise though, there were issues. Firstly, the home screen lags. The screen sometimes takes being swiped multiple times for anything to be registered. Web sites with flash caused the phone to just stutter. Androidcentral.com FC on me several times. Web page loading on normal sites were actually faster on the NS then the 2X. GPU wise was were I was expecting to see a significant increase but really it was so minimal I think any improvement was placebo. Nenamark scores a nice ~80fps, Quadrant was about 2700-2800. I played Quake 3 on both phones and the fps counter was the same with sometimes the NS getting higher numbers. Tegra zone was better but really not worth getting the phone for. The screen on the 2X is nothing compared to super amoled.

At the moment Android is not optimized for dual core and watching the 2X in action proved it to me. I was underwhelmed but what I experienced. Perhaps with an OC kernel things will change but that's yet to be seen.
[LG Optimus 2x] zephiK:
Well you could take a look at the Xoom + OC'd 1.5 GHz. Like I said, by the time Android fully utilizes the dual core CPU. Quad-cores will most likely be ready, so yeah.. let the hype of G2x build, I really don't care because in the long-run quad cores will most likely be my next purchase.

A quad core... Nexus branded of course.

Edit: http://androidandme.com/2011/01/new...veals-3d-displays-and-quad-core-1-5-ghz-cpus/

I'll wait, thank you G2x ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] Mr. Spontaneous:
If you can wait, there's always something better coming up. I figure the next Nexus will be dual core and running Ice Cream (3.1?).
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Now that will be interesting,

It will be amazing if google release a new phone apon every new major update. My money is on the Nexus LG 2x;)

JD

Sent from my Google Nexus Magic Wand S
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Must admit I'm starting to like the G2x;( Talk me out of it guys please;)

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[LG Optimus 2x] zephiK:
I can wait :P I love the Nexus S, no rush to get anything else.

@JD: Go flash a new build of CM7 or something to keep yourself occupied haha. New MIUI build tomorrow as well!
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Ive got the tegra2 fever Zeph, lol

JD

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[LG Optimus 2x] sstang2006:
I'm waiting to get my hands on the G2x. The only two features I'm going to looking for are:

- Browser performance

- GPS performance

If those two features are how they are suppose to be, then bye bye NS. But if I see no improvement then no deal.

Also the G2x will work on AT&T 3G network, it wasn't a typo http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=T-Mobile-G2x-with-Google
[LG Optimus 2x] [hfm]:
And the only cure is Nexus Cowbell!
[LG Optimus 2x] zephiK:
But Tegra 3 is just around the corner! ;)

It'd be great if AMD came into the Mobile CPU/GPU battlefield too. Would cause GREAT competition
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Yeah, defo

I have an amd PC and its seemless;)

I think it won't be long before amd and Intel will show there hands in this market;)

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[LG Optimus 2x] zephiK:
AMD PhenomZone? :p put a AMD Fusion chip into a phone.. yeaaa :D but yeah i totally think they should enter the market. it'd be definitely interesting
[LG Optimus 2x] csmall:
There is always something right around the corner. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] jlevy73:
Tegra 2 for dual core is pretty weak compared to the other dual cores set to be released this like OMAP, snapdragon and Orion. The Tegra 2 pumps out about 90 million triangles, that's about equal to the hummingbird. The adreno 220 will be able to handle 450 million triangles. So it'll be interesting to see if Tegra 3 will be just catching up to this or exceed the others. But really all of the discussion of dual core is irrelevant until the software can utilize both cores.
[LG Optimus 2x] dinan:
I thought the adreno 220 was pushing somewhere around 80million triangles...
[LG Optimus 2x] mprziv:
Isn't the G2X coming with a mediocre lcd display?

I wish it were s-amoled.
[LG Optimus 2x] EvanPatrickSmith:
sell your Nexus bro

Wow you can NOT be serious? Let me guess, you own a Nexus S and are bitter that you will be stuck with it as dual core and 3d phones get released a mere 3 months after your purchase. Put your ego aside "mate". The G2X absolutely owns the nexus S in every department (except CM7 is not available yet). I guarantee Cyanogen will be picking up a G2X as it comes with Vanilla and runs dual core processors. Drop the ego, start acting like a senior member, and sell your Nexus. It SUCKS!
[LG Optimus 2x] jlevy73:
My bad you are absolutely correct. It's about 88 million triangles. I am mixing my dual cores up :)
[LG Optimus 2x] zephiK:
Drop the ego, and stop trolling in other forums and saying how "bad that particular phone is in that forum.
[LG Optimus 2x] EvanPatrickSmith:
too funny

It's not trolling when you own the god damn phone. too funny. In addition, it is certainly not trolling when A) the forum comes up as the first link on a google search and B)breed lies and provides wrong information to other fellow android users.

I normally applaud those who jumped onboard the g1, nexus one, and/or nexus s to get the real android experience and the most out of their phones.

Back to the original post. The g2x hands down murders the nexus s. Not a fair comparison. They are in completely different categories. Nexus s = galaxy = 2010.
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Not bitter at all because I can choose whatever phone to have, and at the moment i choose to have the nexus. There are lots of "senior" members that have the Nexus S so i cant see how that is reflective of how much you know of Android. There is no ego, i do actually think the G2X is a great phone and if you learn to read a little better you will find further down that i said that i may exchange my Nexus S for a G2X apon its release. Even though the Nexus S has a superior screen and will get more frequent updates.

So maybe you should stop flaming and read all the posts before you start acting like a troll. Also learn how to communicate your thoughts without trying to get personal, I have been a member for a long time here and done lots of work in the N1 and Desire sections so im sure your not really one to tell me about seniority.

Also you seem to rant on about how the NS is owned by the G2X without actually backing up any of your claims, lets see if you can be an adult and have an adult discussion about why you believe this to be true, otherwise you just sound like another pleb without a plan;)

JD;)
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Lets hope the shroom can bring some adult points to the table, then I might actually have some respect for the dude;)

JD
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Pythagoras would not be happy;)

JD;)
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Zeph a guy with 33 posts telling me to act like a senior member, lol,

I have a word that comes to mind, but better left out of these posts;)

JD;)
[LG Optimus 2x] dsixda:
OK that's enough. This type of behavior will not be tolerated. I admire all the passion for phones but there are more important things to be fighting over.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rho789:
Hi all,

Just a question because I'm sure somebody allready try it !!!

Is this radio:

17th December 2010: Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2 - Orange ES 1.75.75.2 / HTC WWE 1.72.405.3

MD5 Checksum: d3809958c8fad8211d20f97eeede2a1a

Better than:

4th January 2011: Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF - HTC WWE 1.72.405.3 R2 - Credits to brolee83

Note: Once flashed, this radio will show up as 12.28e.60.140fP_26.04.02.17_M2 or 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2

MD5 Checksum: aea59efafc7327000a44ee902046c355

With Leedroid HD 2.2.2 ???

I know I can test it myself but if someone can answer me it will be great !!!

Thanks all
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CitizenLee:
No one will be able to give you a proper answer as radio performance depends of lots of different things like your 3G availability in your area, distance to cell tower etc, so best thing to do is try the recommended one for each specific ROM and if you don't get on well with it (crap battery life / low signal strength etc) then try another one from the radio thread. One mans trash is very much another mans treasure when it comes to radios ;)
[Adam Themes and Apps] jhankg:
Do we have any themers in the Adam community? I would love to see a Honeycomb theme for Eden or Eden X.
[Adam Themes and Apps] jhankg:
Anyone? A nice Honeycomb theme port could really help to hold us over until (if) the Adam gets Honeycomb.
[Adam Themes and Apps] bearsfan85:
we have themers, and while I have thought about this and want one, a mix of laziness and the fact that we will get honeycomb in time discourages me from making one. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=916814 is a good place to start if you want to give it a go though.
[Adam Themes and Apps] jhankg:
^Thanks for the guide, I will definitely give it a go!
[Adam Themes and Apps] Miklan:
This maybe encourages you? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1006975
[Adam Themes and Apps] bearsfan85:
if you read more it says that they are working with partners and the reason they arent releasing the source is that it isnt ready for phones, however members of the OHA do have access to the source. It has to do with user experience and the android name. Notion Ink said that they will be talking with google to get the Market when Honeycomb comes out which means they would have to join the OHA. I bet we see Honeycomb on the Adam before source is released.
[Adam Themes and Apps] Miklan:
Yeah, sorry about that. Noticed it a few hours later, a bit hasty on the keyboard!
[Adam Themes and Apps] JSZESZE:
There are no themes because the adam's rom has yet to be DeOdexed. With out this, modifying the framework or any other aspect is not happening.

Hope this helps,

Jason
[Adam Themes and Apps] bearsfan85:
thats actually not true, I have a theme floating around on one of my computers that just took away some of the unnecessary Icons for the Wifi only variant
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] brandoncw:
This thread is for instructions only. Please post in the thread titled Bootloader Cracking: Devs Only with your reports​

For general discussion about this topic please this the Bootloader almost bypassed thread.

--Guide in progress for now I will have relevant quotes--
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] brandoncw:
Guide is in post 5 by DooMLoRD
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] DooMLoRD:
i can provide u with the testing procedure....

for now just rename the thread to something meaningful like: "[EXPERIMENTAL] How-To for testing custom boot.img"

i will put a post here in some time...

please use this thread for queries regarding these steps...

use the Bootloader almost bypassed for general discussion...

and if u get some meaningful results please post it in Bootloader Cracking : Devs only with appropriate TAGS in the title of each post...

e.g.: MODEL NO. of device (X10i/X10a) | ROM NAME OR Build (like Stock SE FW 2.1.A.0.435) | BaseBand (2.1.54) | boot.img: (22.03.11-00_25 and try to provide link to the post from where u d/l the boot image)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] slashfoo:
I think the title should be "How-To for Testing Boot-loader bypass files" instead of "How-To for Testing Boot-loader cracking files" no? :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] DooMLoRD:
[UPDATED: 23-03-2011 03:15 AM IST] Method (1) for testing

PLEASE MAKE A FULL XRECOVERY/NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE TRYING ANY SYSTEM MODIFICATIONS LIKE THIS

Additionally please make certain that u can use flashtool to flash a stock FW incase u run into any problems and that the device is fairly charged >50% battery before trying this.

It is advised that u use only stock FWs for this...

Following is a list of stock FWs and accompanying baseband

FIRMWARE ----- BASEBAND

2.1.1.A.0.16 ------ 2.1.58

2.1.1.A.0.6 ------ 2.1.55

2.1.A.0.435 ------ 2.1.54

2.0.2.A.0.24 ------ 2.0.49/2.0.52

2.0.A.0.504 ------ 2.0.46

thank you Androxyde for the latest FlashTool... now a lot of manual labor can be avoided ;)

using the latest flashtool (beta v0.2.9.1) flash any of the FWs -> root -> ask root perms -> install recovery -> reboot the phone once

u need to do the following file copying only once:

(currently [23-03-2011 03:15 AM IST] the FlashTool beta v0.2.9.1 already comes with a set of custom kernel/bootkit files... so the following steps will be valid only if Bin4ry releases new files.... u DO NOT NEED THE FOLLOWING AS OF NOW)

<OLDINFO>

next download the kexec_kit_bin4ry3.zip and bootimg-22.03.2011-00_25h.zip

first extract the contents of kexec_kit_bin4ry3.zip and extract the files miniloader & splboot.ko from the bootkit directory into the <flashtoolroot>\custom\kernel\ directory

next extract the boot.img file from bootimg-22.03.2011-00_25h.zip and put it in <flashtoolroot>\custom\kernel\ directory

</OLDINFO>

[*] the custom boot.img provided in FlashTool beta v0.2.9.1 is the same as bootimg-22.03.2011-00_25h.zip [*]

now begins the actual installation of custom kernel/bootkit:

(u will need to do this everytime u want to boot using the custom boot.img)

now with ur device booted up into the OS and attached via USB launch <flashtoolroot>\X10FlashTool.exe click Ask Root Perms -> Advanced -> Kernel -> Install bootkit check the progress of the execution of these commands in the main window of flashtool...

next click on Advanced -> Kernel -> Reboot custom Kernel and check the progress of the execution of these commands in the main window of flashtool...

if u have followed all these steps correctly ur phone should reboot and load the custom boot.img.. incase nothing happens u have made some problem in copying files recheck if all files were copied correctly and in the right place...

u should also try flashing only the basebands packages from the baseband collection by rendeiro2005

WHAT TO CHECK FOR:

whether the OS boots up properly after booting using custom boot.img

is the OS stable

can u get radio/wifi signal

check for the "Baseband Version" & "Kernel version" under Settings -> About Phone...

if u did everything correctly then under "Kernel version" it will come either "Unknown" or "2.6.29Bin4ry SEMCUser@SEMCHost #1" :D

if u keep seeing "Kernel version" as "2.6.29 SEMCUser@SEMCHost #1" then the custom boot.img was not launched at bootup...

report ur results in a systematic way like here, here and finally post the results in the Bootloader Cracking : Devs only thread
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] DooMLoRD:
Updated: 23-03-2011 03:15 am ist

updated (how-to) steps for latest flashtool (beta v0.2.9.1)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r0nak:
So some of the institutions where I use wireless on my HTC HD7 have a secure wifi network. My problem is that it requires 802.1x EAP TTLS PAP support. As far as i know (along with some use of the almighty google)... there is no support for this on windows phone 7 or almost any windows mobile devices (i do recall some ppl on this site being able to do it for the htc s621 with a registry hack).

Is there any sympathetic developer out there willing to take on the task. Once developed and functioning... I would not mind donating ;)

...anyways... for a possible idea and look into what may be required... people on here did develop it for the android pretty recently and its done wonders...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=921237

(link of a thread where someone found the hack needed to enable support and another developer was able to find a manageable way to deploy said support)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roozi:
Yeah, if someone make an app for that, it would be so awesome. :)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nick109:
i miss this feature as well, i used symbian before wp7 which offered these advanced settings

but i'm not sure an app can make this happen
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r0nak:
I don't mean an app because that definitely wouldn't be the way.... i mean a possible registry edit or a file to deploy with an installer
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Donagh:
This is another thing which has been annoying me with WP7. I used to use SecureW2 client with wm6.5 but this isn't available for WP7. The phone also never seems to retain a data connection with O2 in the UK. It works sometimes after using connection set-up app but invariably drops when I need it most.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] McTell:
Any news from this?? EAP-TTLS would be awesome, because Uni Leipzig uses it as well...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ruddevil:
I'd like to bump this as well. We're using Cisco's AP running Open with EAP - RADIUS security. All other common mobile OSes (iOS, Android, WinMo 6.x) can connect to this except WP7.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marbla62:
I'd like to recover the thread as the app mentioned is the single most important missing feature for me right now. Since it seems that we will not be getting any more feature updates in this direction (I had kind of hoped for that).

Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CodyNunes:
Yeah for me too, I am not exactly sure what 802.1x I need but my university needs a username and pw, and iOS does this natively, and with android you need a separate app. I hope Windows addresses in 7.8.(fingers crossed)
[A7 General] domito:
Hi all, specifically Dexter. I am posting in General as I cannot post in Dev just yet.

I am a linux sysadmin by trade and I have a couple of filesystem performance mods that I use on SSD that I have ported to my A7. I was wondering about the chances of adding them into a future Dexmod, should there be one.

- Set default scheduler to deadline

I have seen posts about using 'noop' which works fine, but using 'deadline' optimizes the reads over writes which bumps performance slightly. Note using deadline slows down sync's a bit on unmount (more data to sync).

This needs a change to the kernel boot options if you are able to mod the boot loader, the option is:

elevator=deadline

Or it could be done after boot with

echo deadline > /sys/block/mmcblk0/queue/scheduler

echo deadline > /sys/block/mmcblk3/queue/scheduler

- Add trim support to the filesystems

This will enhance garbage collection and extend SSD life. Simply add the 'discard' option to the mounts.

- Possibly change the mount option to noatime?

I am not actually sure if this will work on an android device, it all depends on how heavily the system makes use of file access times. I would say none, but since android actively puts a lot of tasks to sleep it may need atime for some reason. I have not tried it yet, just in case. If it will work this will speed things up and extend SSD life by reducing disk writes.

So if this will not bork the system, change the mount option from 'relatime' to 'noatime'.

Cheers!

Domito