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[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
Kind of hard comparing two types of displays that are so different. Usually with 3D you can get a much better picture from a lower quality source because you are looking at two screens at once.

Specs don't really mean much in this case so the only thing way to tell is to compare them side by side. And so far the reviews of it so far say the screen looks great.
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
My og evo display looks awesome...until i see an iphone 4. Then i realize what im missin...and it really does make me want it. Yes they say its awesome wich i dont doubt it is...but i need to compare it to just that.
[EVO 4G General] cholepuree1:
This probably isnt right but...

sqrt(960^2+640^2)/3.5 = 329.6 ppi for the iphone 4.

sqrt(960^2+540^2)/4.3 = 256.1 ppi for EVO 3D.
[EVO 4G General] Scotty_Two:
qHD = 960x540 pixels

"retina display" = cheezy term made up by Apple to throw at people that don't know what resolution is. it is in fact 960x640 pixels. they throw retina in there because the thought is that there are so many pixels in such a small amount of space that the human eye, or retina, cannot distinguish individual pixels and thus curves actually look curved and not blocky.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_display_resolutions

the iPhone 4's display will still be more crisp because of this pixel density on a smaller screen. I just want to know what kind of display (hopefully it's SLCD) it has in it.
[EVO 4G General] timtlm:
Retina display is most definitely a buzz/marketing word for ppi/pixel density. Also, the iPhone 4 "retina " display is actually 960x640 (exactly 4x the number of pixels of its predecessors) . This made it a perfect conversion for legacy iPhone apps to produce 4 pixels for each original pixel. This is the main reason the iPhone 4 has that much pixel density. It's just a side effect of wanting to make the conversion process for legacy apps easier. Remember ios apps didn't have to support multiple resolutions like android. So why not make it sound cool. So, if the iPhone 5 has a 4" screen, I would bet it would still use the same resolution as the iPhone 4 for the sake of app conversion. (Unless they multiply the pixels by 4 again) . This of course would bring down the ppi making it hard to argue that the iPhone 5 still has a retina display. Therefore I think it unlikely it will have a 4" screen. That and it would make Steve jobs have to admit he was wrong about 4" screen phones. Also another point is that the ipad2 didn't get an upgrade in resolution.
[EVO 4G General] nabbed:
Have you tried browsing the web on both?

I have, and I liked the Evo better than the Iphone4. Evo was only good enough in terms of pixel density, but much larger size made all the difference for me.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
They almost got sued for false advertising saying that. Around 600dpi is needed before it is impossible to see the pixels.

Some people who are near sighted can see very small things.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
I am also curious to see what the iphone5 comes up with to compete. I am by no means an apple hater, my buddy has an iphone4 and I actually like it a lot. I just prefer android much more.

That said, they are gonna have to mix it up a little bit, people honestly can't be that happy buying virtually the same thing over and over can they?

I do hope the evo3d comes as close as possible to the iphone4 display... it just looks really good.
[EVO 4G General] overclockxp:
What I find hilarious is that the evo is not that much bigger than an iphone 4 nor the atrix. I love the big screen on the evo. Much easier to type and surf on.

Posted from my Atari 2600
[EVO 4G General] JasoHanco:
"retina" display and resolution

I think the term "retina" display is misleading because it implies there is a set ppi beyond which your eye cannot distinguish pixels, but it's really very much related to the distance from the viewer to the screen. So a 3.5" iphone with 960x640 will appear to have a sharper image than a 4.3" phone with 960x640 if you look at both from exactly the same distance but they have the same resolution if you hold them at the distance that results in the two phones occupying the same percentage of your field of vision.

But since your fingers don't expand as they get further away, a screen that has the same resolution has advantages if it is bigger. It has more real estate.
[EVO 4G General] A1RB0RN3:
Ever heard of a little thing called Call of Duty?

People will buy a rehash of the same product again and again. Just because the number after it is different, they will swear up and down its better than the previous installment.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
In a nutshell:

Resolution: 960x640 (iPhone 4) > 960x540 (EVO 3D)

Quality: IPS (iPhone 4) > SLCD (EVO 3D)
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
You are a nut shell...
[EVO 4G General] mkeena0305:
+1.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Hate it or not, its true.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
If it was just discussed that we can't see the difference because we can't even see the pixels since they are undetectable by the human eye, how is it true?
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I can see the pixels on my iPhone 4 up close. Eitherway, more pixels = more scalable.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Super vision AND a know it all.

The ladies must love you. :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I worked as a graphic designer for years. You know more about print and digital DPI. Right.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
And either way, the 3D doesn't have the same pixel density. Its less than 240 I think.
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
Ill be blunt: the 3D display is the single largest deterrent to buying the new Evo for me.

With multiple layers of display I simply expect this phone to have poor color saturation, refresh rates, or _something_.

Glasses-Free 3D sounds great ... but I simply don't buy that there's no massive sacrifice being made somewhere in the quality department to pull it off. In summary I not only don't expect it to compare to the iPhone 4 (which is the visual standard atm, no use in pretending it's not), but I fear it will look inferior to the EVO I already have... which is unacceptable. That's not even factoring in durability questions (how will this new tech handle a drop ... how hard is it to manufacture and what kind of waiting list will there be if i need a replacement because it dies)?

I still think "3D" is a bad, gimmicky move on par with the dual screen everyone made fun of on this very forum not so long ago.
[EVO 4G General] rstuckmaier:
Of note: 960x540 is exactly 16:9 ratio (typical movie, but not all. Some are "scope" 2.35:1 or 47:20).

In the first resolution example, the iPhone will have 9600 pixels not being used. 50 pixel tall bars on top and bottom x 960 pixels wide. Granted that's 1.56% of the screen... but I'm picking nits here anyways.
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
16:9 is a home HD ratio, but movies have absolutely NO fixed ratio what so ever. It's whatever they think frames the movie best. So really all that guarantees is any HD content from HBO/NBC/Whatever fits exactly.

I'm only mentioning this because sometimes it can be rather shocking how _wide_ movies are shot in... and planning a Phone for that is rather pointless.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
But isn't the idea of retinal display that the resolution is beyond what the human eye can discern? Thus, you shouldn't be able to see pixels?
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
EVO 3D = 256 PPI, if the iphone had the same size screen as the EVO 3D it would be 268 PPI. In order for Apple to keep with their "retina display" and a 4" screen their resolution will have to be better than 1080 x 720 to keep with the same aspect ratio.

Bottom line, no, the EVO 3D screen will not be as clear as the iP4 screen. But, at 256 PPI and 4.3" it will be damn nice too look at. For comparison, the current EVO is 217 PPI so the EVO 3D's display we be almost halfway between what we have now and the resolution on the iP4.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
The iPhone 4 has an LCD screen with IPS. Has it been confirmed that the sLCD screens will not use IPS technology? IPS is simply used to improve quality when viewing at angles. According to Sony, one of the sLCD manufacturers: the VSPEC III technology in their sLCD screen achieves AMOLED level of optical characteristics with 160° viewing angles (up/down left/right), up to 1000:1 contrast and wider color gamut: sRGB 100%. And we all know that SAMOLED is the leader when it comes to viewing the screen at an angle.
[Android Apps and Games] shadymnms:
Anyone have the apk? I don't know why I never backed it up. :( really need it
[Android Apps and Games] zeppelinrox:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11908424

Andy-83 = v3

Andy-85 = v4

Andy-86 = v3
[EVO Shift 4G General] BuddahWolf01:
I came from a hero running cyanogen6 I flashed many roms and nightlies while using the hero. If I remember correctly when I would factory reset to install a fresh Rom my Google account would automatically re-download the apps I had previously downloaded.

It was my understanding this was a standard feature of 2.2. But my shift does not do this.

So my question is "what is up?"

was this just a feature of cm6?

Is my phone the only one that doesn't do this?

Somebody set me straight on this issue, as it makes switching roms much more work.
[EVO Shift 4G General] danaff37:
Htc took it out. It's a feature of aosp 2.2 and above.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BuddahWolf01:
Well that was an easy answer.

So if I use an asop Rom it should auto download?
[EVO Shift 4G General] danaff37:
Yeah but probably not to what you were on your past aosp rom, but maybe what you got now.
[EVO Shift 4G General] ahager88:
Depends on the gapps ver.

On my heroc I kept two sets of gapps, one full and one tiny. They restored entirely different sets of apps everyime I flashed (for some reason, I just picked one randomly every day for about 3 1/2 months, loved aospMod.)

Sent from my MikShift.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BaBnkr:
All I know is this worked when I came from the semi stock rom that I was using as my daily driver.
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
The only Shift ROM I've experianced this on is Evervolv. I believe CM7 should do this too but it's either not implemented for the Shift yet or not working.

^ Shift Faced
[HTC EVO 3D] gqstatus0685:
Here are the specs on this device. When more detailed ones come out I'll update this post. When I get my hands on the Evo 3D I'll post the link to the thread for the system dump. Keep it clean and no flaming please.

Size: 126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm 4.96" x 2.56" x 0.47"

Weight: 170 grams (6.0 ounces) with battery

Display: 4.3-inch 3D touch screen

Screen: 109 mm (4.3") 540 x 960 QHD resolution

CPU Processing Speed: 1.2 GHz, dual core

Internal phone storage: 1 GB

RAM: 1 GB

Expansion slot: microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)

Connectors: 3.5 mm stereo audio jack, micro-USB 2.0 (5-pin) port with mobile high-definition video link (MHL) for USB or HDMI connection

Sensors:

Gyro sensor, G-Sensor, Digital compass, Proximity sensor, Ambient light sensor

Multimedia:

Gallery, Music, and FM Radio. SRS virtual surround sound for wired headphone. DLNA for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer.

Video supported formats:

Playback:.3gp, .3g2, .mp4, .wmv (Windows Media Video 9), .avi (MP4 ASP and MP3), .xvid (MP4 ASP and MP3)

Recording: .3gp

Bluetooth®:

Bluetooth® 3.0 with with Enhanced Data Rate

A2DP for wireless stereo headsets

FTP and OPP (object push) for file transfer

PBAP for phonebook access from the car kit

Other supported profiles: AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HID, HSP, MAP, SPP, SDAP

Camera:

Dual 5 megapixel color camera:

Capture 2D photos with up to 5 megapixel resolution

Capture 3D photos with up to 2 megapixel resolution

Auto focus and dual power LED flash

Front camera:

1.3 megapixel fixed focus color camera

Email I sent to VIP escalations asking if NFC was built into the chip and night vision camera.
[HTC EVO 3D] five40:
I don't think I'm going to miss the kickstand too much
[HTC EVO 3D] jkinnison90:
Might just be me, but I swear the layout on the screen looks so odd, like the app/icons are adjusted weird or however you'd like to word it...

Other then that, it looks great!!
[HTC EVO 3D] billyapd21:
I think it looks good but I wish it had a kickstand. I'll getting it regardless. Can't wait till Summer! Hopefully they'll give us more of a demo!
[HTC EVO 3D] gqstatus0685:
I didn't think the kickstand would be for me until I started propping it up on my desk while doing work. It was easier to pick up phone calls via bluetooth while looking at it. I really want to see how the camera shots look and what kind of lens they are using. I think the camera bezel is huge and unnecessary but whatever.
[HTC EVO 3D] m4rk0358:
What is the shell/casing made out of?
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
There was a kickstand accessory for the View, and i wanna say the guy said there is one for the 3D too.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
The demo from drdrewdown is awesome. This phone is totally badass.. you can completely shut 3d off if you like... they said display looks much better than the original EVO.

My only concern is battery life... but I htink I'll begetting this phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] Serren:
Yeah, whats up with the lack of a kickstand? BSOD mentioned it still has one, but I do not see it. He also mentioned NFC, but I've not seen that mentioned anywhere else yet either.
[HTC EVO 3D] jgalan14:
Looks good I thing they should have gone more plain style like the iPhone 4 tho(look), I'll miss the kickstands, I hope the video quality is better then my current evo, this is what the nexus s should be ha ha, definetely going to get it tho
[HTC EVO 3D] kingdazy:
It was mentioned that it would get a 1750mAh. should help a bit. :D

I hate to say it, but I am sold.
[HTC EVO 3D] five40:
That's because of the higher resolution screen
[HTC EVO 3D] gqstatus0685:
BSOD stated the NFC but who knows if it's included in the chip but not enabled. Also I could care less for 3D since the only thing I would be able to play it back on is the Evo. At least now people won't ask you if you have an iPhone when they see that huge camera bezel in the back.

I can imagine people selling screen protectors for the back and the front.
[HTC EVO 3D] gswarriorfan:
I'll miss the kickstand a lot. I love propping up my phone since i keep it naked and want to minimize scratching the camera lens.

So does this have the adreno GPU?
[HTC EVO 3D] blackroseMD1:
The one thing that BSOD mentioned that I was really excited about was WiMax+LTE. Unfortunately, I didn't see anything about that mentioned during the liveblog on AC.

It's an awesome phone, no doubt about that, but I'm definitely not as excited about it as I was before. With the way things are going here in San Diego, it seems pretty much pointless to pick up a new phone that only has 3G/WiMax, as it doesn't look like we'll get WiMax anytime soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] dirkyd3rk:
When is this phone scheduled for release or is it unknown ATM?
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
So about those facts BSOD posted, which I said were incorrect.....

The phone is sick, but the EVO View truly surprised me. It's awesome. Anyway, adios.
[HTC EVO 3D] lost_man10002:
looks kinda less sleek then the original evo to me...No kickstand is huge for me I use that like 100 times a day at least lol...Loving the internal specs tho wow that phone is a beast...damn decisions decisions lol
[HTC EVO 3D] jkinnison90:
Just sometime in the summer.. No specific month unfortunately.

My guess is around when the original Evo was released.
[HTC EVO 3D] atapia984:
I think I am sticking with my launch day EVO. Not really impressed by the EVO 3D. EVO View seems kind of useless.
[HTC EVO 3D] djdisturbed:
Hardened by radioactive fall out from japan. :eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] effluent:
I saw that it has 1gb RAM 1gb ROM, seems like it would be the same? Did see 4gb listed previously but thought that was debunked. I know I saw a video where the lady demoing it said 1/1 when asked.

Or just stereo. Slap another speaker on the other side of the ugly red outline.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Check sprints site on the EVO 3D. They have it listed as 4GB internal and 1GB RAM. It differs form the HTC site and think this is the more likely number anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
Yeah Sprint has 4gb internal +1

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[HTC EVO 3D] AdamLeonard:
Just saw the Evo 3D. I am very unhappy about the lack of the kickstand and the location of the charge port. I have an Evo now and I regularly have it plugged in with the kickstand out to serve as a hot spot for my laptop and to monitor my work email. Can't do that with the new design and I don't want to get a case that adds a stand into it - a case adds enough bulk by itself and a kickstand would only make it larger still.

I'm sure that HTC will now be selling a dock that acts as charger and holds the phone up like the kickstand would but that doesn't help me on the road. No kickstand and a side charge port really hurt weaken the phone's utility.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Yeah?
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
ha this guy BSOD posted up on the other site this morning for those that didn't see it. lol

http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/131928-what-features-do-you-want-evo-2-a-21.html#post2466290
[HTC EVO 3D] lowspeed:
I'm not liking the fact that they put the charger on the side...

Plus the kickstand has been surprisingly handy on my EVO

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[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
I knew he was full of it, people still defended him after the Evo3D was announced.

I can't believe some people seriously bought into his BS. I love post at the bottom that quotes his first post on that forum.. talk about busted.
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
You know after I've wrote the post claiming that his facts were incorrect, I was politely cursed out in PM's? I wasn't going to say anything at first, but the "he was the first to leak out real EVO 1 info" was starting to get on my nerves. EVO 3D was made official, and I'm thinking what would people say now, and the majority still believe every word that he's said. I wasn't the guy who've worked and still worked on the MSM8600 dual-core processor all fricken day. You don't have to believe me either, except for one fact. The EVO 3D doesn't have the Beceem WiMax/LTE radios. That's it.

Edit: Reading that AF thread, I would say that only 2 people posted EVO 1 info before it was out. Jackson, who was more BS than right around the end, and Self Praise before he disappeared. BSOD was preaching more about Simultaneous Voice + Data over 4G.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
He even has a frikin mod of that forum backing him? That site needs help.

You can go through his post history and on the first page you will start seeing his BS unfold. I mean I love android phones as much as anyone, but we do not need some knight in shining armor to make all our dreams come true~

People need to relax and stop following with their heart and use their head... this is why frikin cults are successful =p
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Yeah he was bs. In the end its a nice upgrade........... for HERO owners....lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Warrior 3000:
wtf is with the UGLY background they used on the evo 3d showing it off, that ugly blueish background. made the phone look gross. =/
[HTC EVO 3D] DomSim:
did anyone notice if the softkeys rotate when you turn the phone like the incredible s (i think it was that phone anyways) i didnt notice it any videos but in the press shots them seem to kinda "sparkle" like the ones that do rotate.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
I don't think they do on the phone, they did on the tablet tho.
[HTC EVO 3D] effluent:
Yeah pathetic that the BSOD guy has been exposed as a fraud yet even a mod is still defending him. Sheesh.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I wouldn't go as far to call him a fraud. Companies usually make different versions of the same phone (Evo 3D) during R&D and testing. The version he could have been basing his statements on maybe didn't make the cut. You'd be a fool to think they'd only make one version of the phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] jonathaflores:
totally agree with you,different versions for different individuals, plus lets not forget that everything changes so fast... I wouldn't say he the real deal or fake, I would say lets keep him in red..
[HTC EVO 3D] :
He was right about a couple of things like the processor, ram, etc. I also want to add that BSOD stated that the device he saw had a kickstand that had Evo 3D engraved on it. I would imagine the costs would have gone up to have all the Evo 3D's engraved. They saved money by omitting it (metal & engraving). There's going to be a ton of case options at launch. Nobody complains that tablets don't have a kickstand but they sell cases to accommodate the people using it for that function.

Adding the kickstand would have made it even heavier since BSOD said the kickstand was kind of big.
[HTC EVO 3D] Justin.G11:
But you cant send that 3d movie to anyone because they don't have 3d tvs ... or 3d computers ... or 3d tablets...

Everyone loves the potential ... people seem to forget there's a social infrastructure missing. Again: love the phone ... don't see 3D mattering AT ALL.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scotty_Two:
my thoughts exactly. the 3D is just sort of an added bonus, a side toy if you will, that just adds a little something to show off to people to say "look what I can do." the phone by itself sans the 3D is amazing regardless.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I usually never send videos to people anyway. I will use the 3D a lot and it's a cool show off feature. Give 3D 1-2 years and it'll be a standard in smartphones.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Just like no everyone had a phone to view pics but in due time every phone had it....
[HTC EVO 3D] jyan_osu:
When I interviewed one of the guys at Oakley about their 3D glasses and if he thinks the tech is going to take off when there are so many skeptics, he said it's all about steps forward. Like black and white to color tv.. then from mono to stereo to 5.1 and 7.1 sound.etc.. steps forward in tech towards a better experience for everyone
[HTC EVO 3D] effluent:
BSOD was proven a fraud because someone posted his first posts on the board from last year indicating he hadn't heard of the EVO and got a Moment. Took that back and waited for the EVO and was asking about it and learned stuff initially from others on the board. One post even showed that he has an Incredible. All that shows he doesn't work on phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
That dude is a big sham. What's more funny are the people STILL rushing to defend him. I'm just amazed at how gullible people are...

It's no big deal tho, soon the evo 3d will be out and the trolls can move on to the evo8d or evo10d or the inner galatic evo..
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I always doubted his 3 Phd's in his signature. But whatever this thread isn't about BSOD, it's about our NEXT phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] jxr94:
Is the kickstand really that serious? And what's with all the complaining about an optional feature. If the iPhone got it and this didn't everybody would be going crazy. Smh.

But, I'm getting it.
[HTC EVO 3D] stankcheeze:
Man, thank god you made an official Evo 3D thread, I kept getting fooled by all those unofficial ones.
[HTC EVO 3D] m4rk0358:
HTC's EVO 3D kickstand case:

via Androinica
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
LOL! I know, right?
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Also, OP, the internal storage hasn't been confirmed at 4gb or 1gb yet. JSYK.

Buuuut that's listed in my thread, which I was -trying- to compile -all- info on the two new phones. But new ones had to sprout up. :P
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
We can now safely say that the HTC EVO. 3D has a bad ass kick stand!
[HTC EVO 3D] effluent:
So it will sit down on the side where the charging port is right? So can't stand and charge at the same time?
[HTC EVO 3D] mkeena0305:
I guess you can say blue screen was right about the aluminum. Sort of
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Ummmmmm..... the EVO can go left or right......
[HTC EVO 3D] unit713:
OP....could you add the specs of the EVO to the original post so we can see side by side comparisons of the two?
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
I want to pre order!

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