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[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
I can see how you might think that'd be the case, but I can assure you I intend to see this through to the end. Call me sappy, but the stuff I like to develop the most are things that make many people happy/smile/laugh. I take a lot of pride in the projects I work on for students/education especially. At least a hundred or two people would be ecstatic if this were completed. Another few hundred would be extremely happy. I'm accustomed to reaching a larger audience, but this I'm not getting paid for... this one is just for karma.

I do intent to get an EVO3D when they come out, but I will continue to develop this at least until it's just some ROM issues, then I'll let the ROM guys take over. Everyone in this thread knows I take issue with negativity, but at least yours was reasonable. I can appreciate that.

I appreciate the offer, but unfortunately I'm going to physically need to sit with the device for at least a number of weeks so I can watch runtime execution... similar to that of truss on Solaris... or probably more similar to that of console output... I intend to learn more about SPL's bootstrapping process... and WP's for that matter. Get that, reverse engineer... and eventually we have our EVO version of magldr.
[EVO 4G General] mistororange:
^^^

you my friend, are awesome.
[EVO 4G General] Rsloan:
I second that.
[EVO 4G General] xlGmanlx:
Why wouldn't we want more options with our hardware? Part of the reason most of us rooted was to have full control of our hardware so we could do things like this.
[EVO 4G General] smw6180:
Actually there are already a couple of flying cars that the faa has approved. :)
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
Until WM7 has integrated Bing Maps Navigation, it is a non-serious OS for a business-user. Written directions isn't acceptable. One has to wonder, what exactly are the thousands of WM7 developers at M$ actually doing all day?

I have a suggestion for them: work on navigation.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
lets hit that thanks button on miphonematt

and lets vote for this thread
[EVO 4G General] luckylui:
Bahahah this is funny!

Bums :p

Clear Deck Day RC9
[EVO 4G General] parham1234:
^Lol +1

My mom just got the htc arrive, hardware looks nice and software.....well u know....its WP7. WP7 looks real nice and i would flash it on my phone if someone got it to work. :)

Lets do this.
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
That has nothing to do with it, the damn iPhone didn't have one neitheir an blackberry sucked ( I own all OS s besides wp7) so far and the only one the I like is android and ios, I liked blackberry push email more then anything but gmail solved that for me, navigation system in a phone is not needed for big corpate office they usually got a Tom Tom or some other GPS device. BTW I can't wait to try this on evo if they make it work that way I don't have to buy a wp7 phone LOL
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
Well I don't know if that is necessarily true. Navigation becomes exceeding important for sales positions, especially in large densely populated cities like San Francisco, New York, and Chicago. Navigation has become a large part of my job even (my second job as a Software Engineering consultant) just to map out and quickly get to each of my meetings (I travel to SF often, and I find that's when I use it most on my EVO).

I honestly feel that navigation should be part of the framework even, rather than just location based services. Where you are going is just as important as where you are.

I have some good news. An XDA member might have an HD2 loaner for me! I should know on or before Tuesday. This isn't a for sure thing, but the best lead I have, and it DOES have promise... If by chance it doesn't work out, I may just go buy an HD2 and sell it again once I'm done using. I want to avoid this situation if I can... I have WAY too many smartphones/tablets as it is, and my "it's for development testing baby" excuse has died 4 devices ago :)
[EVO 4G General] xlGmanlx:
Keep the tech drop the other haha. Plenty of those going around too
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
honestly i do not have a ton of interest in this anymore. but if it happens i will test it out. lately ive been playing with my new ipod touch 4g and i just installed a fully working snow leopard to my pc. sorta liking going the apple route right now. :eek: although i still love my evo, it will be sold soon when the nexus s drops on sprint.
[EVO 4G General] danthrax66:
Using your phone for a gps isn't that great of an idea if you are a business person. It drains the battery faster, and you can't really use the phone while it is being used as a gps. It makes much more sense to have the stand alone unit.
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
You know, all of these OS developers sort of baffle me:

1. Google, for some reason known only to them, has decided to NOT provide any integration whatsoever between Contacts and Calendar. Want to create a Calendar Event from a Contact Record and have them linked so that you can easily open the Contact Record from Calendar or see the Calendar Events for a Contact from within the Contact Record? Sounds simple and oh so obvious. You CANNOT do it natively with Android and must use semi-lame 3rd party apps to accomplish this. Yet Navigation is wonderful.

2. As mentioned before, while WM7 does a horrible job of Navigation, their Contacts/Calendar Integration is excellent.

**Sigh**

Sometimes I wish WM7 and Android would have a one night stand and pop out a baby that does everything well.

** Being a database designer myself, I look at lack of Contacts/Calender integration in Google and I just have to wonder why they find this so difficult? Any decent programmer could crank out the code in an hour. This leaves me to believe that for some unexplainable reason, it MUST be ON PURPOSE. :rolleyes:

P.S., For Android users wishing to have Contact/Calendar Integration, I recommend either "Contact Event" or "DejaOffice" from the market.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Hey ill admit it, if Apple had every game I play on PC then ill give it a shot. Anyone know if you can run Counter-strike 1.6 on Apple? Does vent work?
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xji61NBaKIw&v=Xji61NBaKIw&gl=US

Possible it is you got to do some other steps, but one thing you can run windows 7 and leopard at the same time on a Mac without a problems my buddy hot it like that with a 27 inch screen the thing rocks ha ha, bit I don't feel like spending 2500-3000$ for a Mac right now maybe later when I get over my smartphone problems
[EVO 4G General] xlGmanlx:
Well, let's close the thread then =p, this thread is still around because plenty of folks are interested myself included.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
bottom line is when the nexus s & evo3d drop the development will slow to a crawl here. and as of now there is no developer interested in this project. until then, it's dead in my mind. if it does come to light then i will try it out for **** & giggles.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Dual boot win 7(64 bit) on my mbp(Intel i5) with boot camp and I can play MOST windows games just fine. Super meat boy, left 4 dead, team fortress 2, and others have played just fine. Never tried counter strike though.

~ d3rk
[EVO 4G General] xlGmanlx:
And I was politely saying that no one cares what's in your mind. Just because it might not be on the evo folks will be interested in it.
[EVO 4G General] samsonite.ace:
please try and stay on topic Im one of many who would like to just see where this is goin to take off from, also remember to take a look at android central about this

maybe we can get a solid support group and get word around so some big time devs can get on this? (get word out to engadget for publicity)

with that being said, best of luck and happy coding
[EVO 4G General] jglee311:
Guys seriously......don't you see that the reason these threads get closed is that a handful of idiots with nothing better to do come in and troll the thread. We "the community" naturally respond....thinking we're taking up for each other......and the thread eventually gets closed. If we just ignore these idiots.....they WILL go away.....I promise! It's no fun bantering with yourself, so they'll just find another thread where people subscribe to their uselessness. Let's give it a try........ignore them and watch.
[EVO 4G General] skyline247:
Still willing to donate $10 USD for a working port. Will also test if needed. Thanks to all the devs for their hard work. XDA is awesome!
[EVO 4G General] iluvmine:
im interested in seeing WP7 on my evo. Sometimes I get bored with stock roms. Wish I had the skills to port it, because I would definitely be on it. :)
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
I personally think that this is a border that we should cross. Many of us don't have the skills to code, or don't have time to pick up a book and learn a couple new languages. But we do have the motivation to keep going
[EVO 4G General] hongha_222:
keep going
[EVO 4G General] akarol:
This shouldn't be in this Forums. This is for Android Development after all.
[EVO 4G General] B-dub25:
magldr is a bootloader that will allow direct OS booting.

I don't know if I can help I know C++ JAVA and Linux but I rarely use windows ( maybe one a month if I have to ) let me know if I can.

All thou I must say I really don't care for Windows but love code ;-) but I do wonder why people would want to run such a OS over such a great one

You will need to rewite the bootloader ( I believe to acept direct OS )

New drivers etc (...)
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
Lmao

Yeah I'm willing to try it too I doubt it will replace android tho.
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
Not to feed the trolls, but it's the HTC Evo development forum I believe. I guess if you want you could petition XDA to start a subforum for WP7 development within the Evo forums, then it could perfectly house this one thread that is solely responsible for clogging the HTC Evo Android Development forum. Hell, I'll even sign it when you get that idea off the ground!

Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
Great point... I'll try to refrain, I would love to see this thing boot and be usable.

I'm not even thinking abt jumping ship on Android, just as I knew I wasn't going to leave miui, the first gingerbread port or the honeycomb port on my phone. (I do <3 the liquid port tho!)

It's just fun to see what amazing work these devs can pull off, and what untapped potential these (Netflix deemed) "obsolete" phones still harbor.
[EVO 4G General] sftd:
Yesterday out of boredom I bought an HTC Arrive to play with for a bit.

While it has had its moments of neatness so far, android is still a far more mature OS. The "tombstone" app switching/multitasking system is positively dreadful at the moment. I'm talking 10-20 seconds to resumes states on third party apps while multitasking. If someone can show me some quantifiable proof of both their ability and plan to get something going I would be willing to donate the Arrive to the developer if it would aid in the process.
[EVO 4G General] tfouto:
you need Cotulla on board. But Cotulla dont want an Arrive, wp7, it needs a EVO so he can port wp7 to it...
[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
like I mentioned in the previous thread, before it was trolled into sadness, still willing to contribute to the bounty.

Not because I want to replace android on my phone, but "just because", and it would be fun to play with, become familiar with.
[EVO 4G General] knives of ice:
i have no idea why anyone would be against this. seriously, the more options the more stuff to try the better.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Why is the hd2 the only device that can boot multiple os? Our phone its just as purposeful powerful and more. No one should be against pushing our device especially since its aging. We ned to revive our original love
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
The HD2 was built on WinMo, that's really the biggest reason. People were happy with WinMo, people weren't happy with WinMo. So people started to develop ways to use a different OS on the HD2. As far as I know, there hasn't been a bootloader made for android based devices that boot up a different OS. As much as I would mess with this, nothing can really be done until such a bootloader comes up.
[EVO 4G General] Ceger:
I want a WP7 option for the EVO.

Ceger
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
I like the fact that we have such a big phone with no keyboard. The Arrive is too small for my banana hands. And it has a keyboard. This would provide a really good opportunity/alternative for people that want to try something new (including myself).

I'm still willing to donate. :)
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
i just came back from the sprint store and i was playing with the arrive....that thing is small the landscape keyboard is as big as my evos portrait keyboard
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
well you should care as im the one who originally put this idea together. this thread is going no where without a dev.
[EVO 4G General] Saturn2K:
Hey, the first rule of this thread is zero negativity! (so they might as well lock it)

Unfortunately, I'm guessing that porting a Win7 port from another phone (like the Nexus S) wouldn't be as easy as porting Android from one Android phone to another.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
1. Your thread was going nowhere because you couldn't control it.

2. Who cares who started it. I made a post a while back about it, and everyone jumped over it (as they did yours).

3. Take advice from everyone and stop clogging the thread with nonsense.
[EVO 4G General] xlGmanlx:
Haha, good stuff. Not sure why folks are trolling either, guess if it's not on their schedule screw the rest

Ignore list updated!
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Stay on topic.

Most likely the Evo 3D will have a locked bootloader. Or some kind of security.

And the nexus S..... I mean common its samscum! Really?

The Evo or the original nexus would be the best choices to try to run WP7

Sent from My PowerHouse future WP7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
Again, I disagree. I have a 3500mah battery for that very reason. I have an Android smartphone is to eliminate the need for multiple devices. We're all entitled to our opinions though. It works very well for me.

I find it a bit amusing that fixxer seems to think he was the first one to come up with the idea of dual booting WP7 on the EVO. I find it even more amusing that he claims no developers are interested in this project. Last I checked, releasing ROMs for smartphones wasn't the sole criteria to be considered a developer. If he is suggesting that I am not a developer, my Bachelor's in Computer Science and my title at my day job both beg to differ. And even by his criteria, Myn has most certainly expressed an interest.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
I started the initial thread(recently) that sparked everyones interest about porting wp7, fixxer did put the first thread(recently) in the development section but we both abandoned our threads because of non stop trolling/flaming. None of that matters though, if myn or anyone else is contributing then that's all great news. Its great that any devs would still spark an interest to do this on a year old phone. Much respect to you guys that are working on it!

~ d3rk
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
We have two devs, it was on the opening post
[EVO 4G General] jonnythan:
Fixxer has quite the history of proposing highly ambitious projects and then trying to get others to do all the work because he doesn't know how.
[EVO 4G General] deadcore:
cant wait for the release..

come on guys stay together

...you can do it..
[EVO 4G General] hongha_222:
keep it up =))
[EVO 4G General] tiato:
Sounds like upper management material to me. :)
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
and then he gets angry when it does not happen. Honestly, he is only angry because lui managed to get many testers, and WORKING DEVS for his project. Now he is trolling on the forums for lives to waste

just look at his sig

"xda's numero uno troll"
[EVO 4G General] parham1234:
Guys lets just quit this talk and stay on topic.....
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
Back on topic-got it!

Quick question, how many more devs before this project will start rollin'?:)
[EVO 4G General] clark44:
so how far are we with this project... oh
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
0.1% so far so good! :-)

~ d3rk
[EVO 4G General] clark44:
lmao made my day

so does that mean you guys have testers? lol
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Miphonematt isn't a developer?

Tapa tapa tapa
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
yeah he is
[EVO 4G General] NinjaWolf:
thats what you think, i say this phone will still have devs until late 2012/early 2013.
[EVO 4G General] wdfowty:
If the world lasts that long lol
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Sent from My PowerHouse future WP7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
thats not true at all. ive made several roms back in the hero days. i stopped becuase of the BS on xda. yes this project would be too much for me to handle. and i am jumping and buying a nexus s when it hits. as i said, if this comes out before that ill test it. this would be a huge undertaking for any dev. that's why myn told me he couldn't do it alone.

and while yes, we will have a few more new devs come, most of the current devs are about to move to new devices. it's just the way it goes in this business and hobby we have!
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Why would you get the Nexus S?

Sent from My PowerHouse future WP7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Word. ;)
[EVO 4G General] egzthunder1:
Yeah.... don't remind me about those days...:p
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
because it's a great dev phone.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
tell me bout it! hey... ive been playing nice for the most part! :D
[EVO 4G General] Nutzy:
I respect that fixxer.. Way to explain it man...you don't owe the scene a dam thing brother...
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
thats true
[EVO 4G General] Funkmon:
I would like to point out the HTC Vogue forums to support your point. That is all.
[EVO 4G General] bumsock:
Really the nexus s? Lol,if you're going to go the Samsuck route why not wait a little longer and get the galaxy s 2? O_o
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
Dewwwwwd! That was hilarious.

Anyhow, I just wanted to check in. I had to fly out to NYC (I live in AZ) so I lost two nights of EVO time. I caught a cold or flu or something too.

I'm a little disappointed I didn't get any of the PMs I was expecting yet, but I did find an HD2 on CL with a damaged screen for a bill and a quarter, so I may see if that is available tomorrow.

Until next time y'all!
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
Woot Woot!! Miphonematt's back
[EVO 4G General] akaruna:
well i dont have an evo yet. but i will be getting one hopefully this weekend for dirt cheap from a friend of mine. and im trying to decide which phone would be better. my DX or the Evo. i would love to see this dual booted :) not fond of wp7 but who knows what kind of great roms will come to fruition when this is done... just my 2 cents :)

Sent from my DROIDX using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[EVO 4G General] Igotsanevo4g:
Why do you keep changing the title when nothing has changed? Trying to be some sort of fake-dev hipster or what?

Oh, and correct spelling on the OP would be cool too.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Normally I wouldn't take that this way, but the way I'm feeling at then moment makes me want to feel insulted. I take that seriously.

Sent from My PowerHouse future WP7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
that title has been there for some time, so why is it so important? Changing the title should not be a reason to come to the thread anyway. Just subscribe to it and be up to date
[EVO 4G General] Igotsanevo4g:
Some time? Less than a week...

Up too date? Nothing has changed in a long while...

All I'm saying is, if you make a clean title and have the OP with correct spelling and organized this project can look alot more attractive / legitimate. That's something we can all appreciate.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Incase people haven't noticed every time there is an update or a new development the op title changes accordingly

Sent from My PowerHouse future WP7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Yep, and you're using '7' in place of 't,' I get it. Ignore the haters.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
+1

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[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
I think I have some sort of structure now. It's insanely buggy. It fails ALMOST immediately. At least it sort of tries to boot WP7... sort of. I still have quite a bit of research and trial and error still to come, but I believe I'm on to something where before I really felt like I was stabbing in the dark. Trap the errors, trap the errors, trap the errors and debuuuuuuuug.

I think I might be going insane haha. I've been making up songs about what I'm doing and singing them loudly and proudly. My girlfriend looks concerned. Well, not really, but she was definitely looking at me like I'm a weirdo

I look forward to the day that I have something worthy of posting on youtube so shut down the naysayers. We're still a ways from that day still unfortunately.

My girlfriend's best friend from Wisconsin is coming in town tomorrow afternoon, so I'll be having to sneak away to do any coding. My apprearances may be scarce for the next 4 days, but don't worry ya'll, I'll be back for certain.

Until next time ya'll. Thank you all again for your support. I'd probably had given up already had it not been for your supportive words

EDIT: By the way, I've been guilting this guy that used to work for me into helping with writing drivers. The man is brilliant... I know he has an XDA account but i'm not sure if he's done much posting. I'll let you guys know how that goes
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
nexus one thread up
[EVO 4G General] Jbroad572:
So, what is so great about WP7? I came from WM6.5 and didn't look back I was hoping someone would have listed the differences or why everyone is so amped about this project. I of course haven't paid any attention to WP7 phones and the OS, but everyone makes it sound like it's the be all to end all. What's the deal?
[EVO 4G General] Smac7:
its pretty slick. lookup a video on youtube. i wouldnt say its better than android, i think most of us just wanna play around with it. Dual boot would probably be the best case scenario though.

Good: cool looking, smooth, nice transitions, quick

Bad: barebones, very limited multitasking, barely any apps

the rest will come down to preference probably
[EVO 4G General] loonert:
Dear Lord, I think he has done it.........welll i guess he sorta did it. I didnt know someone could create it so quickly. Pretty damn cool:):):)
[EVO 4G General] samsonite.ace:
awesome work matt im really appreciating your work, and have been watching this thread and the prvious one that was shut down since day one. I think i check this thread every time i get back to my comp (roughly 3 hrs) and am anxiously waiting anything and am glad to hear this news.

dont worry bout naysayers, they are just jealous cuz they can see beyond evo hardware+android=only way to go

best of luck and happy coding
[EVO 4G General] Klk450:
I will be looking forward to this.
[EVO 4G General] fennix2010:
$50 down if this happens
[EVO 4G General] mrlamar09:
yea me to WHEN this happens gud work matt keep ya head up bud
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
I'm from wisconsin matt are you in illinois or something or minnesota?

Only reason I say this is because I would lend my evo to you. Just send me a pm
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
that is why I think wp7 sucks...think feature phone with a pretty ui!

but... i would not mind trying it out, just because we can.