yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate General] NightFalcon27:
I have been using this build for quite a while now and decided to write a review of the ROM. Please keep in mind I am not a developer !!! I am simply writing this from a user standpoint and cannot nor will not support your problems. This is a review based on my opinions and usage of the ROM.

Pros:

I do like the UI. It is fairly stable and I haven't had much trouble out of it for the most part. The combination of ADW Launcher and the Cyanogen settings are great. The speed of the ROM is pretty good for a ported ROM based on GingerBread. I can't complain much about that. General things that I like are the advanced menus for customizing the dock and theme settings. The themed settings change icons for contacts, mail, messaging, phone, browser,calendar, and videos ( I may have missed some). The cyanogen settings cover an array of things that you can poke at but in my opinion should be included with stock builds as well. Overall if you were wanting to use this on a daily basis I think you would be ok to go ahead and install this ROM... NOTE: Don't hold me responsible if you brick your phone trying. It isn't one of the easiest roms I've

ever installed. The sleep policy has been fixed so that the phone doesn't reboot on unlock...which on my first flash hadn't been fixed and really really turned me off from this ROM.

Cons

: I have yet to figure out why this is (again not a dev) but your microSD card will not mount when connected to the pc. I'm sure they are working on this but I haven't downloaded an update or nightly (which is current at the time of this post btw) that has fixed it. I do have some random picky things that I can't get an answer to, and good luck if you do...feel free to send them to me also. Some of my .mp3 ringtones will not work period. Different ones of even larger file size work... I'm not sure how that works out. Text messaging (native) doesn't work for incoming or outgoing... But I will say that I was having issues with that before so I can't blame that on this ROM. There are a few apps that won't work with this build easy uninstaller is one, I just get a fc. Battery is another issue that may be addressed with future releases. I don't run GPS (so don't ask if it's accurate) but keep wifi on all the time. I get probably about 8 hours with wifi on all the time. Not the best but definitely not the worst. You also cannot charge the phone while it is off... really not sure why, and the extended power menu doesn't work. And for the most part is an in depth install procedure... Back to stock with odin, flash two kernals, then a couple of files... Pretty lengthy and you have to be precise or else it bricks. Here it is if your interested... Thanks to MobileTechVideos for the instructions and video.

How to install CyanogenMod7

Other than that I have had virtually no problems (that I consider major) with this ROM and do like it and will probably continue to use it. If you have any general questions please feel free to ask. Again, again... I am not a dev so questions of that nature should be posted here: CyanogenMod7
[Captivate General] surfed.tk:
I tried it and liked what works but it is still alpha quality and so i will wait for a few weeks until i give it another shot.
[Captivate General] NightFalcon27:
I agree, it is definitely still a beta build and as noted by Cyanogen... hasn't been put into the stable build section of their forums. I do look forward to a stable build. Perhaps the Dev's can address some of the weird issues that I mentioned above.
[Captivate General] seanzscreams:
i also was not able to send multi media mms never would go through i tried for 20 mins to receive and send ,

this rom is great but here is why it sucks, i watch the cyanogen nightlies for the galaxy s phones, and with the types of updates im seeing on the cappy versus lets say the vibrant , there is no ****ing hope and this rom is dead.

the last update fixed an install file wtf. so at this rate cyanogen will be rc in o id say next year. ill have a new phone by then. my money is on miui
[Captivate General] krips2003:
Well you completely forgot to mention that, currently it cannot handle lots of video format, most importantly mkv and even if you find something like Rock Player, there's a lot of lag in it. You cannot charge the phone while its off (because it'll turn on as soon as you plug the charger in). Also, you might encounter a totally new problem which you may not have an idea about. If captivate is your spare phone then play with it else stay away for a while until a RC is released.

This is just my opinion from 3 days of experience on CM7.
[Captivate General] modest_mandroid:
It was a total flop for me :/

It ran well when I first installed it, but started running "funny" (random crashing) after I installed gapps, then totally started crapping out after the 3/16 update.

I ended up ditching it for a 2.2 rom, mostly because I didn't feel I was gaining anything substantive and losing things I regularly use, like a feature rich camera app and divx playback support.
[Captivate General] stuff:
Been running for 3 days. 0 problems.

I've ran into a few bugs. External SD, booting when usb plugged in. Only charging to 95% (apparently a feature not a bug). At one point my signal shot down to searching, then it recovered and grabbed a signal. Not sure what caused that, but it was random.

I also cannot get it to mount to my PC. Kind of annoying, but if I need to transfer anything I just use dropbox.

I like it, and I think I'll keep with it. Even though it isn't 100%, I love gingerbread, and it's working for me.
[Captivate General] NightFalcon27:
I did forget that you cannot charge the phone while off and now that you mention it the extended power menu doesn't work either. It is fairly aggravating that Cyanogen updates the vibrant with "real" fixes other than this fixing little things but... All in all, it is still usable, just not stable or reliable.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.:D
[Captivate General] viny2cool:
I am on it from I think last friday...Not a single problem...atleast how i use it...of course except battery life...which I am trying to solve...

Rock player worked well for me...I watched couple of movies when I was on road....never lagged just stopped couple of times....

great GPS...instant locks...i am amazed...But I also tried MIUI...and it is very very fast...and something different which I never experienced before...I think people should give it a try...ofcourse it has bugs too as it based on CM7...but they fixed camera bug and little stuff.....
[Captivate General] NightFalcon27:
I am by no means saying that it is ready for the masses... The only one that I would suggest without a second thought to someone who isn't willing to deal with at least some problems is Cognition Series by DesignGears. To my knowledge (and opinion) this is the absolute best rom for the captivate. IF ... Cyanogen gets to the point of a Cognition rom in function and use, then I might suggest it for the masses but not until then.
[Captivate General] bames:
Your right in regard to it not being ready for most users (many are already praising the miui 2.3.3 also which is even less stable.....not saying it isn't promising). I think it breaks into 2 camps.

1. If you are a power user that wants all aspects of your device to function as intended...not for you. More specifically, If you use an external SD especially if your moving files to and from mounted to a PC....this is not the rom for you (this is my biggest gripe at this point). If you do lots of video in different formats...not for you as you will face compatibility issues. If you have to ask how your flash back to stock....this is probably not for you. If you value battery life as a top priority...not yet for you. Most of the other deficiencies or shortcomings had adequate work arounds but you until the major issues are resolved you will quickly find yourself flashing back to Phoenix, Firefly, Serendipity, Andromeda, etc.)

2. If you don't use and external SD and/or do much media vid/music then i can see why many view this as "stable" for their purposes. The UI, menus, and animations are smooth/fast and i never really had any issues with force closes while using it. Maybe its better linguistically to say its incomplete rather than refer to is as unstable and sorry if it offends the early adopters but if you are using it as your daily driver its pretty obvious you are using an inferior rom @ this point.
[Captivate General] bames:
i would easily put a handful of roms on par with cognition:

Firefly, Supernova, Phoenix, Serendipity, Andromeda.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Excellent post.;)
[Captivate General] krips2003:
Glad to see users sharing their experience on CM7. This is always good foe the community. I hope to see new users to read this thread prior to making any decision whether to flash CM7 2.3.3 or not.

On another note, I'm sure once Samsung do final release of Gingerbread 2.3.3 for i9000 series (last I heard that an early beta was released), we cappyites will see stable release.
[Captivate General] Sarcoid:
Regarding the phone turning on when charging, I believe it's a gingerbread "feature". It's been said that it is working as intended. Also, the iphone does the same thing so I don't really see it as an issue. It's probably google seeing behavior they like and implementing it.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
You can not mount the external sd but you can transfer to your internal then on the phone transfer to external, so I am not certain it Is fair to say you can not use your external sd. Video is an issue, and battery is as well.

At this point in time it is a trade off, there are several things cm7 can't do well or can not do at all. there are also several things it does much better than any 2.2 rom or are not available on 2.2 roms.

Its all preference and priorities. Kinda like any best rom discussion.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
Largely it its because you have never used it, and have only tried one rom. That and you are compelled to jump on any thread that mentions it as if it is a personal mission. It its not as if you do not make some valid points, but it is not hard to see why it may rub some the wrong way after a while.

This is not an attempt to start something, but your comments make it seem like there is no warrant to people who go back at you.
[Captivate General] NightFalcon27:
Agreed... I was not trying to start a thread to bash any rom. However I do know that there are some hard feelings that are out based on certain features that work or don't and peoples impressions about the ROM itself. I also know that there is quite a bit of loyalty to certain ROM creators that no matter what they aren't going to be going to a new ROM simply because they are loyal to that dev... which is fine! I simply wanted to create an avenue for people who have used the ROM to pass along information and opinions on the ROM to people who are thinking about switching to it. People are entitled to their opinions and I am all for that... Just don't bash any of the devs or their work, it is not easy putting this stuff together and I for one am happy that I have a place I can go to that allows me to get away from stock. I hope that all will realize that
[Captivate General] NightFalcon27:
The terminology might be better as incomplete instead of unstable. great post.
[Captivate General] bames:
In my mind it's not a trade off and i doubt anyone that actually transfers to/from and stores any significant amount of files/data on an external will be happy with the procedure you describe above (or would describe it as a feasible work around). Where did anyone say you can't use the external SD? If you are moving many files or minimal decent size files to the external it is much more efficient (FASTER) copying directly from PC to EXT_SD. Why would i want to add an extra step to that process especially when the second step (copying the files from the internal to the external is extremely time consuming and inefficient).

Here is a test.......Copy about 300-500 songs (or if you have rom zips save copy about 10 of them). Fire copy them from your pc to internal sd and monitor how long it takes. Then copy them from the internal sd to the external sd and monitor how much longer it took transferring them with your method as it would have when just copying straight to the external SD.

I disagree with your premise i think for most its not an issue of a trade off...i simply think most of the people who are content with 2.3 as their daily driver just aren't affected by some of the shortcomings because their normal use does not expose them in their daily use. Much like people using a 2.2 based roms who don't use bluetooth voice dialing not missing it....the key difference being in the case of 2.2 base rom its not an incomplete rom because that is not a native feature of the OS base.

I am by no means hating on Cyanogen because its a beautiful UI/OS. I eagerly monitor its progress and would definitely run it once its complete. The general intention of most rooting and roms is to unlock to full function and potential of the phone to the user and Cyanogen 7 is not their yet because there are native capabilities (of both the hardware and OS) that are missing.

I just can't figure out why people get so uptight and defensive about the shortcomings and missing native OS functions being accurately pointed out.

At this point, what would you say that it does better than the top Froyo Roms?
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
I get your point, I just don't transfer 500 songs back and forth too often nor do many people. Also one could attach your ext sd to pc using adapter if it is easier.

Different strokes for different folks. Opinions are like ..... One mans garbage is another mans treasure. And so on

Your original comment ends implying people are using a lessor product. I just don't agree with you, but that its ok we dont have to in order to be cool. I am not even running cm7 right now I am running miui. Eekkk! I know. For me I like to play more than transfer files or play video formats. As long as I can make calls, send text, email, web browse, play music, I am cool. But that is just me.
[Captivate General] NightFalcon27:
For me I like the UI and custom adw and Cyanogen settings. You can customize almost anything. I do listen to music on a daily basis on the phone when I workout but I don't transfer much. While I do agree that all the features should work... I keep in mind that this is a port from another device, and that these dev's probably don't do this for a living, they are simply doing it as a hobby or for fun. I expect there to be some things that are wrong with the ROMs. I am just willing to deal with some things that others are not. I enjoy having the choice of so many ROMs and features, some better than others.
[Captivate General] bames:
I like 2.3 built in cyanogen customs.

I understand this is a port and they do it for free. I am not complaining about what Cyanogen mod is at this point....i just don't get why people get defensive when you point out facts regarding its current state. It is incomplete and unstable (unstable in regard to features of the native OS that do not work). Stable in regard to the general is smooth and lagfree..no major hiccupps in general use.
[Captivate General] bames:
edit: was duplicate
[Captivate General] bames:
Your right we don't have to agree but that is also a matter of competing preferences regarding various needs from a device/UI tweaks vs. a real analysis of a rom/OS's performance, functions, and capabilities. When there are a handful of near perfect froyo roms at this point it isn't inaccurate to say that for a large majority of users and functions Cyano and MIUI beta's are inferior roms at this point. In terms of function and stability many of the froyo roms are much closer in terms of quality, function, stability to the original source firmware on its intended device than either 2.3 port is at this point. Isn't that to be expected as the froyo ports/roms/reorients they have had a head start and more base/tools to work with. In other words pointing out the obvious isn't in anyway denigrating the very impressive work put into cyano and miui ports.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
Once again point taken. I enjoy the different features the 2.3 ports are bringing. I got bored of the 2.2 roms which after a while all started to blend into the same rom with a different theme. I would be lying to say that i am not missing some features that a stable 2.2 can offer, but that is what I meant by dating a trade off.

By the way the devs here are awesome, the roms ate amazing.
[Captivate General] bames:
no doubt....the community and development for our captivate is incredibly deep/rich.

Usually the first thing i do when someone asks "should i trade my captivate for...."X" phone" is tell them to go look at the development thread for that device.....most pale in comparison.....go look at the streak or atrix development threads for instance:)
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
If not lesser, certainly a compromised product. My issue isn't with CM7 and its current state, but with the users who feel the need to say that it runs so well for them and who goad others into trying it for themselves, but who only rarely expose anything about the ROM's shortcomings, some of which are extremely glaring for those of us who utilize almost every aspect of what our phones can do. As reviewers and promoters we need to remember that in order for our words to carry any real weight they have to have the benefit of inclusivity. You wouldn't think much of a review of an off-road vehicle by a guy who only drove it on city streets, would you? Of course not because that reviewer could not have possibly been able to put the vehicle through all of the conditions it was designed for, so his review would be less valid. Same here, Someone who is gushing over CM7, but who is content to live without certain aspects of BT operation, doesn't transfer large amounts of data back and forth or is willing to live without some of the features that can be found working on stock or other ROMs and not CM7 is not someone qualified to give a review of it. Sure he/she can have an opinion, but that's all it is and it's based on only THAT person's particular usage. It should not be considered an overall statement on whether CM7 is suitable or appropriate for anyone else. Every user that posts things like, "It works perfectly for me" or "Having no issues on my phone" is doing the forum a disservice because all that means is that it is serves that users minimal needs. The underlying subtext of those user's statements is that they are willing to live with the compromises for some reason. I'm glad it's being developed and Iook forward to the day when it will be able to do at least everything the stock ROM can, but until then there are just too many great ROMs in here that simply work with little to no issues that are better suited and easier to install.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
Doing a disservice is is some strong words, although I get your point. I personally always state to be aware of the bugs in order to know how to avoid them

And you are as equally unjustified in your depiction of cm7 as you are grossly over stating the extent of issues.

If someone wants to try it, do it at your own risk as with all roms.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
FYI, I have tried more than one ROM. Not CM7, but that's because rather than rely on the superlative statements of a few devoted users, I have actually read the threads and seen that it does not fit my phone usage nor do I want to be a beta tester.

As for my openness about CM7, that isn't from any bias other than seeing an inordinate amount of posts from people having issues with CM7 either getting it onto their phone or using it once it's on it. A good amount of these users with issues appear to be people who weren't skilled or knowledgeable enough to even try it in the first place, but were somewhat coerced by the promises of "Gingerbreadiness" and exclamations of perfection that blinded them to the reality. Sure, we could say it is those user's fault for not being better informed. Still, the result is a forum clogged with people having issues with a ROM that is still not ready for primetime. And those of us who try to help by pointing that out get shouted down by those who have more loyalty to their chosen ROM than to the welfare of this forum.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
I will stop this on my part, but you are not seeing an inordinate amount of issues posted about cm7, you are seeing issues with people who do not know how to use odin, or can not follow instructions. The rom itself is not what the threads with issues are about.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
The people who rave about the rom are not wrong to do so. It is that good. atleast for those users. There is no lack of warnings about what could happen ands the bugs. You are on a development forum. Not everything available is meant for all.

The end, I will stop and disregard these threads as this banter is unproductive
[Captivate General] NightFalcon27:
Let me clear a little bit of that up... I didn't write the review with just pros... nor was I trying to lead anyone into thinking that this ROM is for them. I didn't mean for this to cause this many issues... I simply wanted someone who was thinking about trying to flash Cyanogen to see some of what worked and what didn't. As a matter of fact... as a result of there being no proxy settings built into the cyanogen advanced wifi settings... I have gone back to Cognition 4.2.2. Granted... there are many things that are native that should work that don't as of yet. There are some things that others like about the UI... The title of the post did say "(as I see it)" This implies that this is an opinionated review. I don't think I could have been more objective than I was initially... and if anyone continues to have an opinion ... fine. It doesn't hurt my feelings... the only thing I ask is that you respect the dev's work with your "strong opinion"
[Captivate General] bames:
actually for the most part i thought your review was pretty fair and balanced.
[Captivate General] Roof King:
Anytime someone posts a review thread it will lead to this. If anyone wants to see what works and what doesn't with a rom that's all they have to do is read on the rom thread and they should get a good idea.

I have been on CM7 for 3 weeks now and it works for me but I do miss having a fully functioning camera etc... but the benefits (for me) outweigh the negatives.

I was scanning the Phoenix Ultimate thread this morning and there were lot's of complaints regarding battery drain etc... and I have seen the same things with Cog so there are issues with every rom plus I really think each phone can react to certain roms/modems a little differently so these conversations are so subjective that they are meaningless.

If a rom works for you and you like it then be happy about it and don't sweat what other people are doing or saying. If a rom doesn't work for you then go to something else. No big deal.

I've always thought there is way to much NUTHUGGIN' going on anyway about certain roms/dev's. My gosh you'd think some of these guys cured cancer with the "you're the greatest" comments.

With that said, I do appreciated talented devs who spend their free time churning this stuff out and letting me ride their coattails.
[Captivate General] NightFalcon27:
Thank you... I appreciate it and hope others appreciate the post as well