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[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] got2best:
I didn't think it was a dead lcd because after about 2 minutes of the phone already running the lcd will turn on again. and I saw your thread that said to take everything out I did try that and it did not help. :( any other ideas?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] burtcom:
Does the screen flicker? If you open it up halfway and gently nudge the flex cable, does it do anything?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] got2best:
I juat tried and it does not flicker at all. Once the screen in on there are no problems, its getting the screen on that's hard. Its realy weird. And it started about a week ago and the phone is out of warenty.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] got2best:
It doesn't sound like it should be a problem but I want to root it. And install a custom rom, and I am scrared to do that because when I boot into recovery I cant see the screen.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gggirlgeek:
How can it be out of warranty? G2 wasn't released until October 2010 and HTC provides a 1 year defect warranty. Here is the link. http://www.htc.com/www/support/warranty.html. I didn't look at anything outside the US though.

This is not a caused by physical damage so should be covered??

Also, Tmo, if that's who you're with might just send you a new one?

I'm assuming you don't have the Asurion 5.99 plan? That would cover it for $130 last resort.

Oh, also, Visa or Mastercard will sometimes take care of you if you used it to purchase the phone so check with them in a pinch.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
OK so i had a HTC Dream with supergingerbread or something installed with

SPL: 1.33.0013d (hboot)

RADIO: 2.22.27.08 / 28.25

It drained battery while i was doing something at 4 hours, and 12 hours on idle and only on idle.

I decided to install superfroyo 2.6 but it gave me a error ( status 7 ) on my recovery.

I thought it might have been because of the SPL and RADIO so i tried to install DeathSPL and RADIO 3.22.26.17 and the guide i was following told me to install the radio first which i did. after i finished flashing the radio my phone told me to reboot and so i did. an android with a download bar showed up and in the next 5 seconds i could boot at all, stuck at rogers screen and fastboot or recovery wont boot up.

At times tho i get passed the rogers screen but then all i get is a black screen and sometimes there bars going across the screen probably because it thinks i flipped the screen or something ( accelerometer is acting up =/.

any help would be appreciated like maybe a cheap jtag place nearby toronto thats cheap or maybe even a more dangerous/less reliable option since i have nothing to lose =/.

thank you
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
I know you mentioned that it won't go into fastboot (back+power). Just want to know. What happends when you hold camera+power buttons? Will it come up with the other screen?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
no that doesnt work, i tried every button + power, all i found out is that the mysterious black screen comes up sometimes and if i do trackball + power, the screen goes black with a blue LED.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
Here is some info I found. See if it works.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
tried it 3 times and no luck
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnson8cyl:
Which guide did u follow? Try asking on ezterry's thread? Just wonder if the radio spl are compatible. Confused as to why u did that
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
Taken from : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Dream:DangerSPL

Prerequisites

A rooted G1/Dream

Amon_Ra Recovery

The following files on the root of your SD card:

A compatible radio for the device version:

2.22.23.02 T-Mobile / US*

2.22.19.26i Non US (md5: aeecdb49b74a0d4bb67f9d8af70c1889)

3.22.26.17 or 3.22.20.17 Rogers/Orange

DangerSPL

DangerSPL

Flashing Radio

Amon_Ra's Recovery process

Boot into Recovery by holding the Home and Power button while the device boots

Scroll down to Flash zip from sdcard

Select the Radio update.zip

The HTC Dream will reboot during this process

Once the installation has finished, select Reboot system

ClockworkMod Recovery process

ClockworkMod Recovery is not recommended for the Dream. Please upgrade to Amon_Ra.

Flashing DangerSPL

Boot into fastboot by holding Camera

Double Check that you have a compatible radio or you will brick the device!

Press Send+Menu+End to reboot

Boot into recovery by holding Home

Select Flash zip from sdcard

Select the DangerSPL update.zip

It will install and then ask you to reboot to finish the installation. Reboot as prompted at the bottom of the screen. This will finish installing DangerSPL and reboot back into recovery so you can flash CyanogenMod.

i already sent him a pm to ask him kindly if he could jtag my phone, didnt put a price on it and i hope he doesnt ask for one either =/.

anyway even if the spl and radio were compatible whats the use, the phone only boots up sometimes ( like 1 in 5 tries or something ) and when it does all it is is a black screen.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
Bump, out of sadness ='(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
Do me a favor and try to to these and see what happens. Turn off each time and do it.

home+power, hold for about 25 sec and release.

camera+power, hold for about 25 sec and release.

back+power, hold for about 25 sec and release.

call+menu+power, hold for about 25 sec and release.

Also try them with SD card out of the slot, and also with SIM card out of the slot.

Let me know what happens.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] codey895:
@beenandroidized . I noticed that you got the same hboot and radio i was attempting to put on my g1.but now it won't boot up . Recovery and hboot still work and I know the problem is cause when i flashed the hboot it turned s-on on my g1. Do you know how to change it back to s-off ?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
Sorry, I could not begin to tell you how to change it. Originally, I went I first rooted my G1 with instruction I found by googling, my G1 was at S-OFF. But after the ROM I had crashed on my and I had to reflash everything, my G1 is on S-ON. My guess it was the "Generic G1 ROM w/ Root" that I flashed at the time that changed it to S-OFF.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnson8cyl:
Just download the 2005 engineering spl in ezterry's thread and flash in recovery to get s off. But u will lose the 14mb of ram u gained
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnson8cyl:
Rom doesn't change security. The spl does
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
never tried taking the taking the sd card, sim card, or call+menu+power but i will try it, i thank you guys for all the support.

i will get to this in 2 - 3 hours since im currently at school.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
Sorry, still learning all this while trying to help other in needs. :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
Just something I found while I was googling on the subject. For some reason some one had mentioned that SD card gets corrupted and it can cause the phone to do that. And that was how they fixed their problem. Never hurt to try. :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnson8cyl:
No need for sorry at all. I learned it too. Just filling u in. :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
No luck as usual... =/
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
No luck for what method?

Did you tried
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezterry:
If you flash a radio or SPL from recovery in that the new combo is unable to boot the current recovery you get stuck in boot mode 3 unable to boot the phone, get into fastboot ect.

This is why fastboot was the recomended way to install 2708+ radio, SPL, and recovery.. it allowed for a safe way to go from any radio/eng SPL to the new stack.

I've never seen the 3.22 radios is an update.zip in the wild, but if you used one to go from a 2.22/ebi0 recovery to a 3.22/ebi1 recovery, but the ebi0 recovery still installed, you are likely now bricked.. only hope is recovery is not reconized and let's you access fastboot commands with the USB wire attatched (even if you are stuck on the splash screen)

My jtag method will repair this.. but I havn't jtagged a phone in a while and its become a boring long painful process. Not including the time for you to get the phone to me and for me to get it back to you. Its proven not worth it on my part.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
Still its worth it on my part since my mom is pissed and i'm given no other options for phones currently for 5 months which im moving probably =/, so do i ship it to you? I live in aurora and hopefully you live nearby, how much do you want me to pay and how long are we talking about for it to get repaired? also if you really dont want to repair it and the jtag equipment is old and not usable for anything else than a g1 ( i wouldnt know since im a newbie at this ) ill buy that instead, but thats like my last resort =/ cuz i dont wanna waste money for something i might screw up my phone with.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
So can anyone please tell me they can fix my dream for me, im willing to pay 20 bucks to anyone who does so =/
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
Right now, are you able to boot into any of the screen? IE: Bootloader, Flash, Recovery?

Also, plug in your USB cable to the phone, does it show you any message on the phone?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
Nooo... but i noticed, the black screen only came up when i had the memory stick/ sim card in sooo, im guessing its trying to boot up something from the memory stick.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
Download the ROM to your SD card. Boot into Recovery mode (Home+Power). Apply the update. Basically, the same process you followed to flash in the first place.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
please re read my last comment =/ what i said was that i only get the mysterious black screen when i have my sd card in, i didnt say i could boot in to anything =/
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
Sorry, it was only a hopeful thinking that you might be able to get into something. :( More than likely your G1 is brick, there is something I want you to try. Turn off you phone then hold down on the trackball+power. See if it does anything. If the result is the same as the other option, then you'll definately have to jtag it.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleeepy2:
You could try downloading and running the Rogers RUU update from HTC to see if that will update your phone get the one at the top "HTC DREAM REQUIRED SOFTWARE UPDATE | 01.22.2010"

http://www.htc.com/ca/support/dream-rogers/downloads/

If your phone is messed up already this wont make it worse.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
i dont get it, i thought trackball + power was neccesary for jtag otherwise your screwed completely... anyway yeah trackball + power does work and does give me a blue LED
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
You are right. Too many reading and research. Got confused. Sorry about that. :o
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
yeah i'll try that when i get home
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
no luck =( i'll try an ask if htc can fix it =/
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleeepy2:
no luck at which part?

I had to do it a few months ago so I can't really remember everything that it does but I remember that it has to go through a bunch of steps. I also had to do some adb restarts and stuff on the pc to get it to work.

Which step does it fail at?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
I think he meant no luck, because it will not go into any screen. only black screen show. But I might be wrong. I had been trying to find the way for him to get into one of the mode (IE: recovery, HBOOT, etc...), but no luck.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
yeah i called htc and they obviously said that its bricked and the only way to fix it is by repair( obviously only repairable if i ship it to rogers or if im lucky that someone is able to jtag it for me even cheaper than rogers. unless someone can tell me what the mysterious black screen is =/ since its like rogers logo then black screen and it only happens if i have the memorystick in =/
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleeepy2:
did you try running the RUU while at the black screen?

Other than that I think you might be SOL. Sorry

If you are in the Toronto area try sending ezterry a PM for JTAG debricking. I am not sure if he is still doing it or not. It couldn't hurt to ask.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
This is whay ezTerry said in the earlier post.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
@ bloodman376 - But then you can try to convince ezTerry to see if he will do it. Good luck. :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleeepy2:
damn. sorry. I'll just keep my mouth shut now.

:P
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
@ Sleeepy2 - Sorry, didn't meant to shut you down. :o I didn't meant it that way. I thought you might have missed ezTerry's post. Any help for bloodman376 would be great. I'm pretty sure bloodman376 appriciated all the help. :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleeepy2:
Lol I was just joking around, no worries.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
:) Glad to hear.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO can you help me pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase and thaaaaaaaaaank youuuuuuuuuu! =D plz plz plz plz im desperate cuz i dont have a working smartphone =( only crappy 2g phones that are old, plz plz plz i dont care how long it will take =/ maybe even as a birthday prezent since my birthday is on the 24th =| PLEAZE!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
can you give me a link explainin what RUU is an how to do it BTW?

Is this what your talking about? http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=663&news_id=243
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleeepy2:
That is what I am talking about but that isn't the one for Rogers.

Basically it is HTC's official way to upgrade your phone. You just boot your phone normal (in your case try the black screen) and run the exe. It will reboot your phone and flash all of the updates etc.

Also you need to have the drivers installed so that your PC can recognize your phone.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeenAndroidized:
You might want to personally PM ezTerry... ;)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
you know what im kinda getting to tired to try anything new cuz mostly everyone knows its bricked >,> so yeah ima copy exactly what i said and send it to ezTerry
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnson8cyl:
U might want to get a new phone. Sorry
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloodman376:
not happenin =P, not until a year...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chandra setiawan:
If ur g1 still semi bricked,maybe i can help u.1 week ago my g1 semi bricked too,even my home &call button not working,and I solved this problem with unroot original rom t-mobile us.for flashing rom I use camera + power button because my home & camera button still not working.maybe u can to do.plz forgive me if my english not good.
[HTC Incredible S] eugenile:
Hi has anyone confirmed this phone to work with the $10 web2go unlimited data with T-mobile? TMOUS
[HTC Incredible S] NardVa:
Yeah it works with T Mobile web2go in the USA. :D
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
Same here in NL
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidAppo:
So I've been getting rolling restarts with Cyanogen Mod 7 on my Captivate. I don't mean like the typical random shutdowns Captivates get, I mean like the shutdown screen appears, the phone shuts down, and then reboots itself fully. I've tried reflashing Cyanogen mod to no avail. Anyone know what might be causing this, and what I might be able to do to stop it?

Thanks!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
Posting in the ROM-specific sticky is preferred and appreciated.
[HTC Inspire 4G] ogxku5h:
thanks for this. but wow is this motha loooooong.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Mr Kyle:
Or you could use the real hack kit put together by attn1. :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] dougbarrett:
Just an FYI, I had the same issue with the black screen but clockworkmod recovery running in the background, and I used this 1-click solution for doing ENG S-OFF, and it work perfectly, the next time the phone booted up into clockworkmod recovery just as it should have.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=855403

It seems a heck of a lot easier than what you are trying to do, and I think HBOOT still stays intact.
[HTC Inspire 4G] harlenm:
The point is eng s off is supposed to be bad for your phone. When I had this issue, I just re ran hack kit and installed new rom. Problem solved.
[HTC Inspire 4G] californiarailroader:
It's not bad for your phone, and you can reverse it if you need to. If you plan to flash different radios, Eng S-Off is a MUST.
[HTC Inspire 4G] harlenm:
I know that, but the process that does it can brick your phone.
[HTC Inspire 4G] californiarailroader:
I don't know of anyone that has bricked their phone doing it, but like anything on here there is always a risk.
[HTC Inspire 4G] nsnc:
I actually used the hack kit also first and that's what gave me this idea. The only reason I used the simple tool is to flash Inspire's stock, rooted ROM.
[HTC Inspire 4G] nsnc:
This is not true, when you downgrade your Inspire using DHD ROM, it also flashes the radio and you don't have ENG S-Off at that time. See this recent post which also confirms that you dont need ENG S-Off for flashing radio on Inspire.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1002226

I tried this workaround because I didn't want to turn ENG S-Off just to use clockworkmod recovery.
[HTC Inspire 4G] nsnc:
This method updates your HBOOT with a Engineering HBOOT, which works but is risky and I didn't want to take that risk :).
[HTC Inspire 4G] moe3754:
I have HBOOT-0.85.0019 and clockwork works just fine with my phone and always has ever since I did the one click root back on Feb.14th. So I would say your post is not completely true!!!

Plus I have had Eng S-off just to try it and have reversed it also, so it is no more dangerous than anything else done on this forum!!!!
[HTC Inspire 4G] nsnc:
Well, I guess I was not that lucky. I rooted 2 Inspires and both had the same problem, so I had to do this workaround on both of them.
[HTC Inspire 4G] lortay78:
I tried this method, and I got an error message that says "CORRUPT BOOTLOADER! DO NOT REBOOT! SEEK HELP AT XDA!" I sought help at xda, and so far nobody has been able to help. I really wish I would have seen this method first, as now I don't know what to do! If anyone could help me, I would greatly appreciate it. I don't want or need eng s-off. Thanks in advance.
[HTC Inspire 4G] nsnc:
lortay78 you may want to look at this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=999219&highlight=corrupt+bootloader

looks like a few other people ran into this problem when using the one-click ENG S-Off tool.
[HTC Inspire 4G] attn1:
You really need to get your facts straight. The shipping hboot works fine with CWM. So does every other hboot on every other DHD RUU.

The black screens are a result of process gone wrong, not the hboot.

Also not correct. The eng hboot is not bad for your phone - but using it incorrectly can be.
[HTC Inspire 4G] klquicksall:
I like your comments ATT1. Your one of the only DEVS that understand the Inspire.
[HTC Inspire 4G] nsnc:
In my case CWM didn't work with AT&T shipped stock HBOOT (0.85.0019) for Inspire. It worked with the DHD stock shipped HBOOT (0.85.0007). I had same issue on 2 different Inspires, I didn't want to turn ENG S-Off that's why did this work around. There are may other folks who rooted their phone with the 'Simple One Click' program having this same problem and turning ENG S-Off to make CWM work. I didn't try flashing any other version of DHD ROM or any other ROM as I want to stay stock but wanted CWM working to take backups etc.
[HTC Inspire 4G] lrs421:
I've never had this issue. It has always worked for me.

Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.
[HTC Inspire 4G] nsnc:
I don't think you will run into this issue if you are flashing some different ROM over the downgraded DHD ROM. Have you tried flashing the AT&T stock rooted ROM over the downgraded DHD ROM? When you flash a non stock ROM I don't think it includes HBOOT.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1454:
The reason I ask is that I love my phone but im wondering if I should take it back and wait for a dual core for battery life reasons. I only want htc because I have had Moro and blur sucks. Plus moto seems much more crippled so to speak. I know that the ego 3d is just a couple of months off so was wondering if something might be prtletty close behind for verizon, and I font care about the 3d nonsense, I just want a disk core because I assume that it will be more battery effecient. Please feel free to correct my inaccuracies, because I do love my phone, but the battery does leave a little to be desired along with the retarded micro usb placement. That is my only two gripes with the phone. Thanks for any siggestions.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesfrom818:
By the time a dual core LTE phone is released by HTC, unlimited data plans will be gone.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FP5241:
I disabled the lock screen and turn the GPS off when not needed and my battery life has improved dramatically... worth a shot?

:o
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fillyo:
I think everyone's eyes are too big for their stomach. It will be a while before a dual core phone will come out, where android is optimized to use it, and apps take advantage of it. Seriously, buy the time my upgrade rolls around in January 2012, it might be there. In the meantime, lovin my TB on 4g.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] javawolfpack:
So the next 4G phone for Verizon, which will be a motorola phone, the bionic will be a dual core LTE phone. Not HTC but will be dual core. The main reason I think the thunderbolt isn't is that there is some kind of delay in the dual core snapdragon processors from what I heard. But I agree the biggest benefit of jumping on the thunderbolt, which a really decent phone, is to get on 4G especially while it's still unlimited.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] le0.br4zuc4:
If bat life is already bad on a single core I can't even imagine on a dual core
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PJnc284:
It wouldn't be near as bad if HTC didn't try to put the smallest capacity battery they could find in there. That said, I've had no issue getting through the day. I'm connected to wifi all day at home and work and won't have LTE in my area until later this year.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keeverw:
You say that, but the phone is already a beast even with just a 1400mah battery. Can you imagine how bulky the thing would be with a 2000? And if the phone is only getting 6 hours per charge now, adding another 600mah woth of battery capacity would only give you about 3 more hours. It wouldn't be worth it to me.

The problem is not the battery capacity. The problem is that 4g radio on a very limitted 4g network. So it is constantly searching for a good 4g signal. The same thing happens to me everyday at work, because the 3g at my work sux. So my phone searches all day, and uses the battery up quick. But on the weekends when I am not at work, my battery lasts much longer.

We need to be turning the 4G radio off when we are going to be in a non-4G area for an extended amount of time. And then turn it back on again later when we leave that 4g dead-zone. That would make a big difference in battery life.

Or if they could make the radio more effecient, like instead of constantly searching for a signal, maybe if there is no signal, don't search again for another 15 minutes.