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[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] firdausmbois:
(removed post)

the finger detection is slower than before

i just knew that it can do rotational movement? it just like my illustration :D

and it need more wider detection it can't detect if touching the corner of the lcd

(some game had corner button) and it really reversed it need to make it top bottom, since not all game is support it
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] SpliFFdu95240:
Yes, but work great in game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aivlOZs2Ez0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etsvNYMaxr0&feature=related

...

On your video, it's nokia C7. It's same like N8 ????????
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] megagas22:
why this can't be like the minipro dualtouch ????

Anyway thanks.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] mhyke13ph:
because you did not read the 1st post :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] SMALLJIM:
the game mode no works for me i wait soon the v008

anyway THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Sgt-Hartley:
Ill open my cypress and have a look if I have a tool what fits.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Asycid:
Here is some help, I think it is better to see, how can you disassemble phone in a safe way, and what tools you need!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13729017&postcount=30
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Sgt-Hartley:
Hi thanks, I took my previous x8 apart but I can't find my tool to do so. Had to swap LCD in my old x8 taking to bits isn't the problem just need to find my tool lol
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Blagus:
This really confused me. A friend of mine has N8, it has got true dual touch (didn't test more fingers because I didn't know how).

And take a look at this: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nokia-N8-Teardown/3641/2

It's the same T1021A chip (read it on the picture) as in our X8.

How??? F***ing Nokia, SE and Synaptics.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Asycid:
@Blagus:

1.) If you can get the N8's touch driver somehow, and look at in, then you can compare it to X8's driver, so you can see what is the difference in it.

2.)...

3.) PROFIT!

:)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] SpliFFdu95240:
And about Nexus one who have a T1XXXA chip by synaptic and DT ?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Blagus:
I'm registering to Nokia forums right now hoping that I'll find something there ;)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Blagus:
Yeah, that's strange too... that's why I'm also looking around for a method to read chip's firmware... either via direct connection to the chip (I need datasheet for that) or via kernel module.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] mati96PL:
Blagus , you're a big one! :D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Asycid:
Blagus, I (we) owe you one.

It seems for me that you're one of the devs who not just sitting on your *ss (no offense to other developers, I just trying to aim that not much dev. keeps us getting informed).

You man... awesome :D

But don't forget ('cause I forgot) that N8 is symbian, and I think it's not a free software, so you (and me, because I'm trying too) will have a hard time finding that driver.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Blagus:
first, thanks. i'm just doing my best. and i hope other devs won't be mad about your post ;)

yes, i'm aware of that... but i hope that something could be done... actually, we already know that chip reports only one finger, so we would have to read fw from n8's digitizer... or, since a friend of mine has got it, i can try to exchange them to test if he'll still have dual touch with my digitizer.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Asycid:
Blagus! I found an N8 firmware, if you're interested. I don't know if it's illegal to link here, so if it is, then please delete the link, MODs! Thanks in advance!

N8 - PR1.1 13.15 Firmware
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] SpliFFdu95240:
Maybe it's more easier with nexus one, because it's an android phone.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] firdausmbois:
i think N8 not a multitouch well i don't know how it really work but i think it something like this

to doixanh: i don't really understand of it it just my opinion if you found this useless you can delete this
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Compwxr:
Maybe if we create a algorithm like this. Dividing the screen in 16 or more places, i think it's not usefull to create more becouse we cannot fit our fingers in a place with a area lesser than that. I mean X:168 ; Y:168 to X:220; Y:220 I.E. And register that as a specific location creating a variable like A,B,C like shown before. Phone addresses current position, and also detects second finger, cous it freezes. So, what if phone comes with a integral area registed, so like all screen is addressed as 1 specific place, and only support 1 finger in it, that makes MT impossible, but if screen is divided in 16+ places maybe it recognize 1 finger in each area, this is, making it software, not hardware defining it.

Hope it's not hard to understand my idea, and maybe it already been thought or so.

But, it's a idea to make a different firmware/driver to the chip.

As it is a capacitor screen, and made to support only single touch (older X8's) I think newer come with limited ST screens, but we could teach chip to ring two specific fingers so like X;Y and A;B like.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] SpliFFdu95240:
A very interresting blog, who explain how they do the Dual Touch for G1 ( Normally supported single-touch, seem have T1007A,http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/T-Mobile-G1-Teardown/782/1 )

http://lukehutch.wordpress.com/2009/01/10/full-working-multitouch-on-the-t-mobile-g1-android-phone/

EDIT : Kin One et Two have Clearpad 2000 !!!! So, we have too !! ( We have same digitizier )

"Synaptics Inc. (NASDAQ: SYNA), a leading developer of human interface solutions for mobile computing, communications, and entertainment devices, announced today that its ClearPad™ 2000 Series capacitive sensors are the touchscreens on the KIN ONE and KIN TWO, new Windows Phones."

Source , Synaptics.com : http://www.synaptics.com/about/press/press-releases/synaptics-touchscreen-selected-kin-one-and-kin-two-new-windows-phones
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Asycid:
Hmm... This one is written in 10 January 2009 with Android 1.0-1.1. We really don't know what is the difference in the new ROMs, but this is really a good starting point!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] muharama:
im very excited

guys, have you look at this ?

http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...53af199b5ddd8160ad4db6988319413748cb1ef4#l132

this is source code driver multitouch for G1..

as you know, in the release g1 doesnt have MT

and they hardware not cappable to detect more than 2 finger too

can we compile this driver to be our modules?

sorry for my bad english
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Doomguy:
Very interesting. OK, may difrences comes from numbers after model number. So confusing.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] skyboyextreme:
now what do you think guys ? i guess now confirmed T1021A is a clearpad 2000 i.e dual touch capable....let's hope for the best ^^
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Blagus:
I've just e-mailed Synaptics regarding this. Hoping for some answer.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] mati96PL:
I hope for good news for all of us ^^
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Sora94:
If it's dual touch capable i will do a party!!!!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] bogdan_mihai554:
Hell yeah, me too! :))
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Graveir:
You guys have definately no reasons to party...
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] MrCzAjNiK:
Even it is, then doinax do dt long time ago. Its no so simple. Maybe kernel module cant do the same as replace driver directly?

Wysłano z X8 z użyciem Tapatalk
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] SimonL98:
Cant wait untill the v008 version comes out :P

it's the best that you have added a game mode! but a widget to change between the game mode and the regular mode would be totally great!

sadly the game mode is not working so well but you all know..Module man can fix it!

ModuleMan

Make.Believe
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] anmiman:
hope

i just read at the multitouch thread at general section and somebody said this..

if im not mistaken CY8CTMAxxx supports multitouch.maybe theres hope for cypress user like me..:)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Sgt-Hartley:
Saves me a job, and yes it should support it, but we still need some Dev with cypress to make it :/
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] mati96PL:
So we agree that Cypress devces can get multitouch.

But we aren't sure (synaptic devices users) if we can get at least dual touch. Let's centre on this point. So, Blagus, what did these guys answered you? We got clearpad 1000 or clearpad 2000?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] bogdan_mihai554:
It can't and i think that if the kernel's locked it won't allow you to change/load/unload drivers from it
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] anmiman:
yeah..thats the problem..all the dev have synaptic i think..i wish i could wake up and have doixanh skills..:D

anyway..can we modified the minipro module to work on x8?..
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] doixanh:
zzZzZZzzzZzzzz then how can my module replace the stock SE driver from our currently locked kernel, and add those pinch gestures for you guys..... zzZZzzZZzzzzzzz

I'm kinda tired and bored of these thinking. It happened many times, again, and again, and again, and again about those DT/MT and kernel module ability and things like this, or this, or this... What the f**k are you guys thinking? I do things for you guys and you told me that I have to do this, I have to do that?

F**kin sh*t. Find a way to "unlock" your f**kin kernel and then change/load/unload driver yourselves. I'm not updating this x8gesture anymore./.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Imppy:
oh man...you just got the module man pissed...
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] SimonL98:
totally :( :( :( :( :(

no more x8gesture?! :( :( :( :( :(

in that case i maybe sell my x8 :( :( :( :( :(
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] SimonL98:
totally

No more x8gesture?!! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

now i maybe have to sell my x8 :( :( :( :( :( :(
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Blagus:
I'm totally with doixanh. You keep repeating and repeating and repeating and repeating that we have to unlock kernel to change driver.

doixanh's module CAN DO EVERYTHING that a kernel driver does.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] sanefirst:
@doixanh:

Please, don't give up man!

Consider the fact, that most people in this forums lack knowledge about linux, kernel, modules & other stuff. They will talk **** now and then, dreaming about custom kernels and firmware flashing and finally they will be disappointed ;)

-Guess what happens when devs crack bootloader?

-?

-Nothing... (for 99,9% users)

:)

To sum up:

Keep up the good work. If it weren't you, we will have **** instead of your ingenious modules :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Sgt-Hartley:
This really is a shame :( but then again I agree to a certain extent
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Dare-Devil Inside:
Calm down, pleeease. Just ignore those troll asses.

We really need you D!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] hugerth:
Congratulation, idiots.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] CaptainZap:
I've said it before and I will say it again. People can't understand how much you already did for the X8. Pinch zoom was a really usefull function that didn't existed until you made it. Everybody keeps talking about MT/DT for gaming, and though it will be nice to have it, this is not as usefull as pinch zoom is. I can only ask you to update this module only/when you find out a better pinch zoom method. That's all I can ask, and to the rest of ungratefull people that keep pushing you to your limit, I can only say F*ck off!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] kueh9:
yup i agree with DX and captainZap..even though im a cypress user i just be patient and respect other DEV for their awesome work..peace DX!! just ingnore all this "spamers"..
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] sukartochen:
Dont forget, this forum will arrival of new users with dont know anything about the rules and what you later post before about imposible mt on x8,you cant blame they.,the questions about mt will continues how ever the fact x8 imposible to have mt B-) .
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] ENVIR:
hi module man:D

go go go, you can do it man.. x10mini has released dual touch:D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] riesan:
Dont u guys ever read forum.... it been said before and already proven the devices didn't support MT/DT unless it is a cypress.... doixahn already done everything and unloding the SE driver and load his own driver instead but the DT/MT still wasn't able to do anything because of the hardware limitation. This is not about a Software but HARDWARE where the chip itself can't support

you can browse all you want in the internet but what u will find is hopeless because KIn One/two Multitouch is basicly only for gesture not gaming... instead making doixahn angry be open minded and help him make the x8 gesture better not ask him do something not possible... as said before if u crack open the bootloader also it won't be able to do anything at all... doixahn has unload the driver same as you want to bootloader crack then change the driver... same principle...

IF you still don't satisfied with what achievement the X8 thanks to doixahn and complain like baby... sell your device and buy another device with pre MT/DT instead... nobody forcing you to do anything at all... just be thankful not be stupid..... don't force doixahn do something impossible because you guys don't own him... he work this thing for fun and share with you all....

p/s : STOP trolling something stupid and be glad and improve the x8 gesture.. not hurt the module man feelings
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] mati96PL:
LoL you don't read full thread also. We don't know which chip we have for now. Clearpad 1000 or 2000. We have to wait till these chips producers will answer blagus. So we don't know for now if we can have dual/multi touch or not.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] ENVIR:
stop debate this, just keep support our dev for better x8
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] doixanh:
I'm not in a good mood today.

I'm tired of repeating the same thing every time. Many people pretend that they know lots of things while knowing nothing about it. I'm really tired and bored.

To me, pinch zoom is enough. That's my initial goal of this project. I don't care about such Game Mode. I made that for those noisy kids, and you can see what I got in return.

As I said, this project will be discontinued. I pushed everything on github, anybody can improve it.

Good luck to you guys. Anyone who continues to improve this can send me a PM for editing this thread content.

dx.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Sgt-Hartley:
Thanks for your work dx. I take it I don't need to find you a cypress device anymore? :s
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] doixanh:
Well I'm talking about x8gesture project, not Multitouch. If the Cypress Digitizer is CYC8CTMA (as I saw someone's post), it must be another dedicated project for that.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Sgt-Hartley:
Ok ill keep the hunt on then dx. I really hope you can help us cypress users I have 50£ towards a device for you and that's just my own money... I'm going to check digitizer in my device to check if its what was mentioned in other post.... I really hope it is XD
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] muharama:
thanks very much Dx...

im very like your job and really appreciate your x8gesture...
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Sgt-Hartley:
Dx check this, its a picture "bensabin" posted of the cypress digitizer.

If I'm not mistaken this is a fully capable mt digitizer?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] prz3m3kk:
I've noticed a bug when was using pinch in stock browser:

When you zoom in/out with pinch, the text doesnt automatically fit to.screen as it does when you zoom in/out with these two tiny buttons. Somebody having the same?

Im just curious if it is possible to fix it.

Sorry if it was mentioned in earlier posts, didnt notice it.

Of course, no offence to you, doixanh, Im not the one of complainin kids, you did to x8 more than we could imagine.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] CaptainZap:
Pinch to zoom doesn't fit screen automatically, but you can fit it by double tapping after you zoomed in, or you can look in cyanogen settings for a force autofit option.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] prz3m3kk:
Thanks mate, didnt know it is that simple :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] SimonL98:
Word +1
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] X1111:
thanks for your effort to make happy us and improve our device ,dx

but remember the big problems belongs to big man

know that we respect and appreciate you

:)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] matmutant:
lots of people an I are obviously respecful for your great work.

don't care about who who don't (sorry this sentence may be not proper english ^^ )

tks again for all that you do for our devices.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] aldee_s:
ah man, another dev getting pissed off because some foolish people give them pressure.

I personally want to thank you doixanh, and i really hate those people who can only talk and bad mouthing others.

You're a great man doixanh. :D

Maybe we could never zoom our browser with our finger without you. haha
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] martintspedersen:
Hmm this is a huge loss:-S. hate those F...k spamers, I loved all doixanhs work. Doixanh you are still my favourite dev. Because off you and nobody I got The coolest mini in town;-). No lag just smooth android 2.2 and I love it.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Drakenfall:
It´s too bad, your work with this is very good, sad too see you droping this.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] skyboyextreme:
yes it's so sad that you are abandoning us on this one we really needed it or at least some of us needed it bad :(
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] firdausmbois:
oh my....

wow im speechless.... im the one who posted this "game mode" and im that noisy kid for me it just........ can't say anything more......
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] doixanh:
I'm not talking about you firdausmbois. Your idea is good.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] mcmanuf:
Bigg loss

This is a big loss for all X8 owners.

doixanh your impressive work will be missed.

Mr "module man" :-)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] :
+1 From me...
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Charmed :):
You made my phone and me very happy (and all x8 community I think) with pinch zoom and thank you for that!!!!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] tojnas:
woah ! Thats intense dx.

I have read thru this thread from the beginning and its been amazing to see how u have managed to make a little idea so big.

I use the pinch zoom in froyobread for pics and internet and use it like any multitouch device with no problem at all.

Although it is saddening to see u stop it in anger, Thanks a lot :) .

P.S - for every idiot who dint appreciate your work , there ave been a dozen more who treat like a sort of hero :p .

MODULEMAN AWAY!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] skyboyextreme:
Any chance that u continue improving this module, please :)

Thanks anyways....
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] treebill:
+1 it is sad to there is always one(or a few in this case) that are never happy and ruin it for the rest of us, will always use it and complain when it doesn't work how they want it, that moan about and refuse to leave to code to make it better.

You did great on this mod it's a sad day to see you stop development but I respect your decision.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] proadi96:
This is very sad for me ... u was our GOD! Please dont give up you already have exellent work done ! If you dont do your work i was dont even know if we will have pinch zoom ! But you do this! Just please dont give up!

Ps. This is because of you fuc**** haters!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] jjdoctor:
@doixanh.. a bundle thanks for making this modification...

I have a question

Which of the versions have best Gesture ZOOMING amongst v006 and v007? I am not at all interested in gaming but want to know which one is more stable in zooming.

I am just thinking that game mode in 007 might have made zooming more wobbling and unstable OR both v006 and v007 have equal stability in gesture zooming?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] jjdoctor:
@doixanh.. I have an idea..

When we open pics in default SE default Album application, we just press on the pic and a slider appears on screen that allows us to zoom in and out with draging finer up and down.

Can't this function be universally available on all applications? I would love to use that method in Google maps or angry birds. That would be very comfortable zooming method..

Or an application can be made where it can ignore this function in some special applications like opera where keeping finger pressed gives selection and copying.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] josecabre:
your mods are the best, please dont do this, i dont know you but everyone(including me) had something that is yours: your work, and thats amazing bro
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] EL_BELLACO:
One question, i instal manualy this mod to the stock 2.1 firmware and reboot, and dont have DT, but whit custom Roms i have DT, what is wrong??
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] proadi96:
Nope this is not dt
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] EL_BELLACO:
LOL i know, i dont know to much english, i know this is fake DT or pinch to zoom.

I just want to know if this is compatible whit stock firmware, baseband 015?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] wantutri:
yes, it must be. but you should have the synaptics digitizer:)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] proadi96:
Yes it must work! I have synaptics digitizer and it work for very well! You must have cypress digitizer btw if yes u are very lucky! Or maybe you do change something bad in the file at the beginning?

Wysłano z mojej x8 za użyciem TapaTalk!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Sirquini:
It should be, when I was using eclair it worked
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] EL_BELLACO:
mm dont know.. becouse i install it manually and whit update zip, and does not work, so..

if i have cypress digitizer why im lucky?? :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] aloy99:
Sigh. Some just don't appreciate devs and their hard work. On the bright side, although I can't activate game mode, when I try to, a little icon pops up in the notification bar and quickly disappears. Is that a accidental feature?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] aloy99:
Oh yes, dmesg doesnt give me an output, how do I check my ramdisk? I've googled but all I can find is linux developer stuff.