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[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
i was always under the impression that sprint lets you call any US number, regardless of mobile or landline, for free? maybe that's just an option my dad has on the plan? my wife and i are still on my dad's plan cuz it's cheaper for everyone to have 6 lines on a single plan than to have multiple plans. so i dont know all the details.
[EVO 4G General] herbthehammer:
Your Google voice number, I read, is a landline phone number. If you are on a plan that has a limit on minutes to landline phones, then you are using those up when you use that number to dial out on. I would guess the same would be true if someone was calling into your Google voice number, you would be using up landline minutes. I'm on the all you can eat, kitchen sink plan so using landline minutes doesn't count against me.

You might want to take that into consideration too. Also, searching for help on Google voice help site is like trying to find a needle in a haystack or chasing your tail at times. I know my thinking is skewed sometimes so I found finding answers by searching to be quite frustrating in the beginning.

Sometimes answers to questions further confuse me because they just don't make sense. Plus, back when I started playing with it, there wasn't much information pertaining to sprint and their current plans and features. Either lack of or outdated material. It probably is better now.

I hope that after whatever sprint and google are going to do what they are talking about, that it irons out some of the current problems with calling using gv, the damned lag! Sometimes it is low and sometimes people on the other side think you hung up on them. Talking while the other person is talking because of lag is very annoying!

Another ***** I have with gv is sometimes calling someone has unpredictable results. Sometimes I've called a number and couldn't connect with the other person. I've gotten messages that the phone was disconnected or out of service. I have called right back and sometimes got through and other times got another error message. When I said f it and called with the sprint number, it went right through. One very bizzare situation happened to me recently. I called a phone number and it went through and I got someone's voicemail. I left a message. I called a dozen times more because I needed to get into the building they lived in and they weren't answering the phone and I kept getting someone's vm. I finally ran into the person that I was trying to get ahold of. They was pissed off because I didn't call. I showed them on my call log the number I called. I asked them their phone number. They told me their number and it was the one I was dialing. I dialed it in front of them, using gv, and their phone didn't ring and I got someone elses vm and not the person that I was with. Very weird. To make matters even more twilight zone, I got a call from the number I was calling for this guy late at night. I was like wtf?! I declined it and it went to gv vm. The transcription read that the guy is pissed I called him so much and he didn't know me and to stop calling him. Very freaking weird!

Google has some latency and call routing issues?!
[EVO 4G General] Gelder_vw:
GVOICE RULES! lol
[EVO 4G General] runcool:
everyone else already beat me to it. but yeah. google voice uses a landline. BUT IF YOU'RE SMART LIKE ME!!! YOU'LL have the pick three on your plan. YES sprint plan. I get it for free, but you'll have to pay 5 bucks a month. but yeah. add the google voice number and boom you got free calls to anywhere you want. hahahaha. suck on that sprint. :-P
[EVO 4G General] drmacinyasha:
For people talking about the GV landline stuff... Look at my posts earlier in the thread. Hopefully the Sprint+GV integration will mean that by using your GV number, you'll no longer be hit with landline minutes when sending calls to/from cellphones.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
How can we get it for free too?
[EVO 4G General] obscurenetworks:
This looks promising.
[EVO 4G General] cordell12:
I went to google settings in my account and tried to change my google # to my mobile # and got this...

:(	The cost of porting is $20.00 (payable through Google Checkout). :(

I guess it is worth it, but I kind of like the idea of being able to "hide" my mobile number if I want ;)
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
If you wait until the new Google Voice/Sprint integration is rolled out, it will be free.
[EVO 4G General] Showudway:
This will be great! I cant wait for this.
[EVO 4G General] runcool:
Sure it'll be free to port it maybe! BUT it'll cost you minutes. hahaha. oh yeah it will. :-P
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
I will wager cash that nothing will change. You'll still be able to call mobile phones for free. I think I read it on the Sprint site or the Google site but I can't find it now. But, regardless.... that's just my thoughts but I'm extremely confident that you won't suddenly start getting billed for mobile to mobile because you use this new feature.

EDIT: http://skattertech.com/2011/04/excl...limited-moblile-to-mobile-google-voice-calls/
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
I updated the OP with more info. If anything else official or at least reliable comes out about this, please PM me and I will update the OP of this thread.
[EVO 4G General] :
Sprint Pick 3

I just called Sprint and asked about getting the Pick 3 service (allows you to add 3 land lines that you can call for free).

The rep told me that the service was no longer available....

I really wanted to add my google voice number :(
[EVO 4G General] rushco:
Sprint to home and you can add 1 number for $5. Add your google voice number and unlimited calling for $5.

http://shop2.sprint.com/en/services/calling/sprint_to_home.shtml
[EVO 4G General] :
Nice!

Thanks rushco :)
[EVO 4G General] sling:
Great deal maybe Verizon will have same thing.

ha
[EVO 4G General] Redneck Trash:
Testing has begun.

http://topicfire.com/share/Sprint-Begins-Testing-For-Google-Voice-Integration-17174984.html
[EVO 4G General] |Jason8|:
Yep. I received my invite today.

It looks like SMS is transferred completely to the Google Voice app along with it's terrible slowness and wtf threading.
[EVO 4G General] Kerflop:
Any idea on how to get on the beta list? Or was it just dumb luck that the first round of testers got chosen?

Thanks...
[EVO 4G General] rstuckmaier:
It seems random (or perhaps first come/first served). I use GV but don't have a GV number. I didn't get the invite and if I try to port my number the Sprint option doesn't come up and it tries to charge me $20.

I'm in no hurry... but this is still pretty cool.
[EVO 4G General] bigslanki:
if you read the google sprint faqs you will see that it says

"Additionally, since all calls automatically go through Google Voice, you won't see the message on the call screen indicating that the call has been placed through Google Voice."

This is a fail. Nothing new here, dont change your number over if your going to attempt to test this.

If you use gvoice through data your subject to delays and missed calls and text which you are already aware of im sure.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
I don't know what you're trying to say here.
[EVO 4G General] Radical-J:
Yes, that's right. Pick three or sprint-to-home works but there are some steps to take to insure you are not being charged.

For free Outgoing Calls.

First you have to get something like flex dialer that automatically dialers your GV number first, enters your GV Pin, and *2 to make a call and than automatically dials the person you want to call from your contacts or google voice callback (market apps) or dial your GV number than enter in the number you want to call and than that call is free.

IF you have Pick 3/Sprint to home you cannot use the feature on your phone to have GV dial your calls. That dials a random GV number and not YOUR GV number to place the call(so you would be charged since a random GV number is a landline number and not YOUR GV number on Pick 3 etc).

For free Incoming Calls

In GV call settings(from your computer) you will have to change Caller ID (incoming) to "Display my Google Voice number" or you will be charged minutes since GV is forwarding from a landline (your GV number). FWIW
[EVO 4G General] sk63:
Gvoice uses your voice connection not data.
[EVO 4G General] |Jason8|:
Pretty sure it was dumb luck. Either way, I'm loving every minute of it.

Actually, I've noticed the exact opposite. I'm missing less calls because my SMS messages are using my data connection. While sending or receiving a normal text message, the phone drops to 1X and cannot receive the call = rejected call. Using EvDO for SMS means the data connection gets terminated and my phone actually rings.

MMS still comes through the normal messaging app. And texts you send via the messaging app actually show up in Google Voice.

The only problem I've seen is that during a call, your data connection is severed, so you can no longer send or receive text messages.

The best advantage is that I can text while streaming music on my 3G connection because it doesn't continuously drop to 1X and cause stutters!
[EVO 4G General] dtr145r:
bump.

does anyone have this feature yet?

so will google voice allow wifi calling??
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
No, Google Voice is NOT A WIFI CALLING APP, NOT A VOIP APP.

It is a telephone-based service. No data, no internet, no wifi. None of those things.

You can call using the Google Voice service with a third-party SIP or VOIP app but GV is phone-based.

Here's what happens when you call someone using Google Voice. Let's say I have the GV app on my Evo. I call someone from my contacts, and I chose "Call with Google Voice." What happens is, my Evo calls my Google Voice number. That rings at some Google phone bank somewhere. The call is connected to my GV line. Then a second call is connected from my GV line to the number that I dialed, and I am patched through.

This is all PHONE LINE calls. There is no data or wifi or any of that involved.

It works the same if I pick up my landline phone, call my GV number, and press 2 to make a call using my GV number, dial the number, and get connected that way. Obviously there is no data or wifi or voip calling going on.

I hope that is clear enough for people.
[EVO 4G General] Redneck Trash:
Woohoo! Got my invite. Using Sprint number as GV number. Be back after I test some things.
[EVO 4G General] Redneck Trash:
Calls work. Voicemail works. SMS and MMS work. So far everything is working like normal.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
got mine today to now to freak out friends and family with personalized voice mail greetings
[EVO 4G General] Rakeesh_j:
It's my observation that making calls via GV counts as mobile to mobile minutes, at least if your GV number and Sprint number are the same:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13108679&postcount=40

I'd like somebody else to confirm, but as for now I have no reason to believe it isn't the case.
[EVO 4G General] Rakeesh_j:
It doesn't have to be. You can have your SMS work as it always has. Simply go to Settings > Phones > Click "Edit" under your mobile number > Check "Receive text messages on this phone"

So whether you want texts to be over data, or over standard SMS protocol, that's your choice.

In fact I'm using handcent with my GV and Sprint numbers merged, it works fine.
[EVO 4G General] fortcollins:
Here is one thing with the messaging that is PISSING ME OFF.

I receive an SMS. I reply to SMS from computer. Back and forth we go for 5 minutes and then I decide to continue conversation from phone. Well there is no syncing of my replies to my phone. On my phone all I see are the other parties texts, but not mine.

Now if I reply from the phone, then it is synced to GV on the computer but not the other way around.

Using GoSMS
[EVO 4G General] buck1623:
It actually does sync, but not in your native SMS program, the GV voice program on the phone syncs your sms conversation.
[EVO 4G General] fortcollins:
And this is a major flaw.
[EVO 4G General] Redneck Trash:
Not really. The point of the integration is to merge your Sprint service into GV. With the exception of MMS everything will go through GV. What I think is a major flaw is you can't access all the GV website settings through the app. The app settings are sparse at best.
[EVO 4G General] fortcollins:
Follow the bouncing ball on my opinion.

For someone like me, using GV as it is designed and intended, across multiple phones and devices, when changing from device to device, it would be nice if it would sync so that conversations could be fluid.

Sure, I could use the GV app to solve that problem. But now, I am limited to the craptastic (again my opinion) messaging setup they utilize which is no where near as nice as say GoSMS or Handcent.

Choose. Whole conversation or good function.
[EVO 4G General] Rakeesh_j:
I've already posted how to make SMS work as if you didn't even have GV.
[EVO 4G General] abrigham:
Must not be available for me yet. I tried to follow the instructions and when I clicked "Change/Port" next to my existing Google Voice number, after entering my Sprint number, they wanted to charge me $20 to port my number over o_O
[EVO 4G General] Redneck Trash:
It hasn't been officially released yet.
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
It wasnt a typo: mms doesn't work through gv yet (can't send pictures). I never use that feature so no biggie for me, but I know some are very upset by that.
[EVO 4G General] frozndevl:
I just received my replacement evo (for a borked wimax) and when I got home I rooted with unrevoked, flashed amon-ra 2.3, and then Calk's EViO 1.8. I discovered later in the night that the flashlight app wouldn't turn on the LED flash, and also that the camera flash wasn't working.

Is there anyway, from a command line or other, to try and activate the flash to determine if this was a bad flash, or perhaps this is a problem with the new device?

Cheers
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
I'm guessing its just a bad refurb. Just unroot, flash stock and take it back. I had one refurb that the led's didnt work either.

This is exactly why I hate refurbs, and I hate how sprint says they are "remanufactured to factory specs". That's bull$hit. I went through 5 refurbs at one point and sprint finally gave me a brand new one. Two of them the speaker didnt work, one the 3g didnt work, one had a cracked camera, and the last one unbelievably came in the box in two pieces. the screen had completely separated from the body of the phone, even came with the clear plastic protector on the screen. And that was "fully remanufactured?"
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Lol I HATE refurs. I had 37 phones when I was with Verizon... in two or three years time...
[EVO 4G General] frozndevl:
So obnoxious, I hate having to go back to the store every time something goes wrong. And of course, I figure this out right after I finish putting everything back into its proper place on my phone. Hell, this could be the stores fault. I had to take this refurb in to get a new back put on it, there were chips around the hdmi and usb cutouts, and the tech dropped it on the carpet. Evo is sturdy, so I didn't think anything of it. Now I gotta find the right RUU to reset things again.
[EVO 4G General] frozndevl:
And then, I get in the car and call the wife, put the phone on speaker. Lo and behold, the speaker phone doesn't work. SO when they replaced my back they probably didn't connect everything again. I love sprint sometimes!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] alvaroag:
Hi. I'm having a problem using the 3G on my X10 Mini Pro. It was bought on the USA, but from the begginning I was using it here in peru. At first, I didn't used data traffic because I haven't accquired the mobile internet service. Many months after the purchase, I updated it ti android 2.1. Now, a month ago, I accquired internet service, but it was a bit slow for me. At first, I thought it was because of the provider, but now I realized its because the phone is only connecting with EDGE, not 3G, even when I do have 3G coverage. Here's the phone info:

Model: Xperia X10 Mini Pro U20i

Sales Item Number(on the back): 1237-6807

build.prop "ro.product.name": U20i_1238-0199

Service provider: Movistar peru (716-06)

Also, when the 2.1 update started rolling out, I updated it with the Generic Nordic, changing build.prop, but now, seeing the 3G doesn't works, I changed build.prop to the original values to install the original firmware, which was now updated to 2.1.

Does anyone knows about a solution?

Thanks in advance.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ctalcant:
If it was bought in the US, it may have the hardware for the wrong 3g frequencies. u20a and u20i do not use the same frequency for 3g.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] alvaroag:
Hi. Thanks for your help. Is it just a software restriction, or hardware limitation? If it's the first, maybe flashing a u20a firmware could solve it...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ctalcant:
it's a hardware restriction. But you could have bought a u20i in the united states. Double check what frequencies your carrier uses for 3g and also which frequencies each model (u20a/u20i) supports. Then try flashing firmware that works for the model you have. Best of luck!
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
It's officially the same device with a cdma radio and a wimax radio.

I will probably get one.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/21/...-sprint/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
[EVO 4G General] 12MaNy:
I've played with a T-Mo Nexus S and it's a VERY nice device. However, I'm still iffy about Samsung. I may just wait for the Evo 3D.
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
Why? This will be running AOSP and will get updates at a faster rate than devices with Sense, Blur, etc.
[EVO 4G General] zikronix:
because the hardware is a year old
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
For realz, yo. Sammy makes awesome processors, the best mobile camera sensors hands down, and their devices all seem to get good battery life.
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
Mm yeah truth bit what is something the a duel core can do that hummingbird A8 can't do? Not much really, I think Google is waiting for a optimize chip when is actually needed
[EVO 4G General] zikronix:
I actually dont want a dual core cause I fear the battery life....lol but if i was gonna upgrade my evo...I dont think this is the way Id go....although like some one mentioned the sammy's usually get great life.

with that being said...this device doesnt have a flash or notification light. The flash I use as a flash light and the notification light i would miss
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
It does have flash

http://now.sprint.com/nexus/

The notification is OK I wish they had the one from the nexus one it was nice :)
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Whaaat? I need my notification light! Ehh I wouldn't buy a year old phone. Its good more choices for sprint though, which is good.
[EVO 4G General] thenags:
Phone looks awesome but I hate the placement of the buttons.
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
Right? Ha ha you can get used to it mmm this looks like a good CTIA for sprint again, mmm evo 3D doesn't offer anything outstanding I'm gettimgthis I like official updates faster :)
[EVO 4G General] thenags:
Having the back button farthest from your finger seems odd.

Evo 3D sounds nice, but I don't think I can buy anything with 3D in the name.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
no sd card means an automatic no for me
[EVO 4G General] strung:
I wonder what Wimax chip they're using and if the implementation will be open source.
[EVO 4G General] zikronix:
my bad. Well the one on T-mo doesnt so i made an assumption.
[EVO 4G General] brokentoaster24:
Ditto for me. Not sure the reasoning behind no removable memory or notification lights..
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
Not upgrading till sprint fixes there data period

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
Thats one reason evo users should be excited. AOSP will now be coding for a CDMA/WiMAX device. AOSP ROMs for the EVO will be super easy to port from the Nexus S 4G.
[EVO 4G General] AyyRayy:
Battery life? The GPU and CPU will be 10x as efficient as the evo right now and rumored the phone comes with a 1730-1750 mah battery. HTC modified the evos kernel when the battery problem was awful and the devs here at xda took it even a step farther. The dual core will render graphics and multi tasking like a breeze without straining the phone. The rumored benchmarks are double the evo stock! I have mine being pushed at full speed and still get a day worth of battery out of it. The evo3d is a no brainier compared to the nexus s which is a year old and does not have an SD card.

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[EVO 4G General] 12MaNy:
Because I'm partial to htc for one...and yes, the hardware is already old.
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
Because it's a Samsung.

I like that it will be getting updates direct from Google, I really do. But they have treated me like crap with every Samsung phone I ever bought and they aren't getting another dime off me even if Google does step in and clean up their support mess.

Writing is on the wall: Google and Sprint are partnering up and thus I expect a lot more phones to get released as either "Google Experience" or practically unlocked for the dev community and thus there's no reason to settle on a turd like Samsung, no matter how pretty of a bow they put on top.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Very true.

blah blah effin blah
[EVO 4G General] freeza:
If not for the EVO 3D, which is shaping up to the the Megatron of phones, and if the Nexus S 4G had expandable memory and a dual core processor, I'd be all over it.

Still a WIN for Sprint though. GO SPRINT!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gian_78:
Hello, a question ... or put on my hd2 on the rom sd "americandroid" but or reception problems, or other evidence shows that Rom are a good reception ... but the americandroid and faster .. and can change the kernel or do something .. x fix this problem ..? thanks:confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] egzthunder1:
Thread moved to General.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ruki_Uki:
Im looking into purchasing EasyTether Pro for the fact that I can tether to my 360. But I came up with an idea and that's where my question comes in. As a alternative, what if I get a cheap Android phone, no activation, download the app on it, would I be able to connect the phone to my WiFi at home then tether it to my 360 for internet?

I'm not a Mik.....but my EVO is!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheEdge88:
Unless you already have an unactivated cell phone, why couldn't you just purchase a wifi adapter for $50? If you do have an unactivated phone, just install the free version to test as an access point. You don't necessarily have to test the 360 connection (only available with the paid EasyTether version) to see if it would theoretically work.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ruki_Uki:
Eventually ill get the real adapter but I can get some cheap Android phones for like $15. I'm looking just for the time being.

I just never used any kind of usb tether before.

I'm not a Mik.....but my EVO is!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheEdge88:
According to this link (http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...2862-using-de-activated-droid-ipod-touch.html) deactivated phones should work, but not sure about a fresh phone. If it is a used phone, you should be able to still use as like an ipod touch.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ruki_Uki:
Nice just another way I can screw over Microsoft and support android all at the same time :)

I'm not a Mik.....but my EVO is!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheEdge88:
I have an activated evo and just tested as follows:

1. turned off mobile networks

2. turned on wifi

3. connected via usb to laptop

4. turned on usb tethering

5. let laptop do its thing (setup adapter)

6. tested internet and voila

I am posting this through that tether.

Naturally, I had used the wireless tether (not usb) to access the mobile net, but not go through my local wifi router. I wanted to verify that it worked. I did try to use the wireless tether (link to laptop) WITH the wifi connection (link to wifi router) and it did NOT work. Hope this helps...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ruki_Uki:
So basically the idea won't work because you can't tether through the WiFi, only your mobile data?

I'm not a Mik.....but my EVO is!