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[Thunderbolt General] IISiDeK1CKII:
People are just rude in general. If you say something someone doesn't agree with, they make damn sure you know they disapprove. I took my leave from the INC forums after the iPhone 4 debacle that happened in the general forum. That and someone told me my ROM list was stupid and worthless in a PM...

I concur, I can ADB like I'm typing a paper (I have extensive command line experience) but my gf, who bought her first android phone recently, can hardly turn a computer on.

Long story short, some people don't want to risk breaking their brand spanking new phone just to have more functionality. If an easy, tried and true method presents itself, people will not only flock to it, but they will gladly give money for it (I know I would). Calling someone a noob or making fun of them is counter-productive and will deter all future forward progress here. No one wants to dev for a bunch of ingrates and jerks.

+1 to the OP.
[Thunderbolt General] magneticzero:
I agree 100%. Too many jerks here for this forum to be a useful resouce atm. Maybe one day down the line....
[Thunderbolt General] chimpsnest:
I would, respectfully, disagree w/that statement.

IMHO what happens is people get tired of listening to the same questions over and over and over - this is why we have a search button and why google kicks ass too. I think people get snippy after seeing the 8 millionth person come in and ask "what's root" or "what's a ROM".

I'm not sure of the rudeness the OP was mentioning as I haven't seen it in regards to NOOB developers, but from my own personal experience around here I've found this place to be very helpful. I learned all I could about rooting my Eris via google and on another one of the android forums, ultimately a google search landed me here and I took the plunge and rooted and started w/the Kaos ROMS before trying many, many others.

People shouldn't just come in and start asking Q's - they should look around first and when they don't, that's why trouble starts (not here, on ANY forum).

As far as the OP here goes, I haven't read the posts he was talking about, but I can understand why -if somebody was looking for legitimate "how to" info on development and that person was met w/a bunch of crap - they would be frustrated.

I love it here :-)
[Thunderbolt General] Captainkrtek:
If you find any rude people pm me about them, I have a hammer :cool:
[Thunderbolt General] chimpsnest:
We also have a chicken and a kraken (sp??) ....
[Thunderbolt General] Russ36363:
As one of the newer users here, I understand where both sides are coming from. The amount of content here is kind of intimidating for some people, and those who are looking for a "do everything" solution such as one-click root are going to be dissappointed. And then some people are so impatient to root that they'll be pestering people, asking any question that helps them out immediately, not checking for already posted questions, and that's the hand-holding that is being criticized/attacked here.

But I do see where they are coming from. There is a lot of information here that is important, but with the volume of posts, it gets lost, and there seems to be no direct go-to thread or threads for people to ask questions like that in this forum. Unfortunately, not everyone is going to read all the threads here, nor will many set foot in the general Android forums here I think, so they don't know where to start, and many will ask their own questions in their own thread(s).

If anything, some of the most important information that needs to be more accessible IMO is the links to the driver/tweaking the driver for the device to be picked up with adb.
[Thunderbolt General] distortedloop:
We all have our moments. I tend to answer the questions first, then include something like if you have to ask this, you're probably not ready to do it on your own yet, or here's your answer, but a simple search would have revealed it.

Google and search are our friends. Most of the "old timers" just get annoyed when people ask something that could have easily been found with either a Google search (set site to xda if only interested in xda responses) or with a forum search (search from main area that covers all subsections, use "show posts" and skim through the results), because the same question has been/asked answered dozens of times already.

All that said, the sub-forum structure across devices is inconsistent, the protocols of where to ask/post isn't consistent, and the search feature in xda absolutely SUCKS. I've always considered myself a pretty good query builder to find what I want quickly, but even I have to run through multiple searches to find what I'm looking for. The 30 second delay between being able to start a new query can be very frustrating, if xda dropped that to 10 seconds or so, it would probably encourage more multiple searches before asking. It's no wonder newer members get frustrated, though many are just too lazy or desperate to take the time to look...
[Thunderbolt General] Garrett07:
Alright good to know, thank you

Sent from my bad ass mini thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] Thrillhouse847:
A Q&A sub-forum would help with this. It helped the Fascinate forum out a lot with the very same issues described in this thread.
[Thunderbolt General] qwirked:
I just want to say that until last night I HAD no idea how to use adb. One of those devs that you are complaining is so rude, got me the help I needed, to the point that they were on RDP with me and handheld me thru it, even straight did some sections.

In ither words I'm finding nothing but help from the dev community.
[Thunderbolt General] Garrett07:
I never said they aren't helping, I'm saying that rudeness is not what forum communities need to be based on, its not right that people have to have attitude online, nor in general, people come to forums for help and communication they don't want to get on a thread and see that somebody has posted a reply being rude to their work and or statement, its just something I'd like to see change but it never will
[Thunderbolt General] dbu:
Like someone above said, I don't see it as rudeness, more like frustration. I (ProgHouse on irc) helped a lot of people get ADB up and running, I don't mind helping but it did get a little frustrating because the information is out there. My computer nerdery only runs so deep, so a couple of times I had to refer the person I was helping to someone smarter than me. What really got frustrating were the noobs trying to root and asking "okay, what do I do in step 4?", read the directions, if you follow them to the letter you should have no issues.
[Thunderbolt General] 651egg:
will say DINC forum is great. Will wait for 1 click route as I do not have time or patience to learn ADB. I am a romaholic and can not wait to strip the bloat from my bolt.

will say XDA as a whole is the bomb as most of us newbies would be up a creek without the developers. Big thanks to all of you!
[Thunderbolt General] ProTekk:
I sees you.
[Thunderbolt General] JonKyu:
Kinda have to agree, I am really short tempered with "helping" my parents out with technology, while I don't mind helping it's the constant asking the same question that bugs the heck out of me. Also them not wanting to read.

Of course sometimes I do think "experienced users" do need more tact, you also have to make sure you're doing work on your end. I remember reading about adb/linux commands for a few days before rooting my Droid 1. I paid a lot of money for a phone and I want to make darn sure that I know what I'm doing to it in order to make sure I don't brick it.
[Thunderbolt General] cps68500:
Everyone starts somewhere, yes. I did. Then I read. Then I read again and then some more. Most people don't actually have a use for rooting they just thinking it's cool. 4 people at my work have the phone all outside smoking and playing on it...

person #1: got mine the day it came out. did you root yours yet?

person #2: no, what's root?

person #3: its so you can do cooler stuff on it....

person #4: <walked away not saying anything> <--me.

If you want to root, then you should read. If you have read, some simpler questions should already be answered. And I do understand that some won't get things right away. I'm not bashing here on people, but some just need to read first and ask questions later. We are all too used to buttons in front of us to be pushed that do things for us.
[Thunderbolt General] mattmartin77:
i completely agree, however, on the dx subforum there is a stickied post explaing what rooting/roms/themes/etc are. their pros n cons/ and how to do em but everyday there is a new post like "[Q] HELPPP HOW DO I ROOT AND WHAT IS A ROM!!?! HELP" and after a while is does get annoying. even with a dedicated help thread labeled NOOBS GUIDE these noobs (let us not forget we were all a n00b at one point) continue to ask questions.

Rudeness is still unacceptable to a certain degree, which i havent seen too much of in this forum.
[Thunderbolt General] tazzpatriot:
Break out the fu chicken :p
[Thunderbolt General] andrew8806:
This thread has nothing to do with the Thunderbolt device. Closing thread.
[Omnia 7 General] jorkobe23:
Hi dear,

I just bought my Omnia 7 last Wed(actually, made a payment 2 weeks ago but just arrived) and I'm so pleased to use it as I used to use Samsung Focus(but it has problem on a sim slot).

However, there was one problem in my device since the first day. It's actually my fault and the device is working really well, but my sim(I used to use iPhone so my sim is micro size) is stuck in the sim slot.

I thought the sim slot was same as the one in Focus but it wasn't. Thus, I even can't see where it is in the Sim slot but fortunately, it's working well.

Anyone has the same problem as me??

Or anyone can help me out?
[Omnia 7 General] hboos:
i think it is easily sorted but you have to open up the device.

follow the instructions in this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=820799

you dont have to worry about anything..very straightforward.
[Omnia 7 General] jorkobe23:
Thank you so much!:)

I will follow the instruction then!
[Omnia 7 General] dawnrazr:
Same thing happened to me!! I had a micro sim bought an adapter off ebay when fitted it in it said Invalid sim or no sim! well to cut a long story short I opened up phone and it had bent all the contacts :( some off the ends had even broke off!!! I had to break off metal housing! to get to the contacts to try bend them back up, I managed to get it working again :) but I was shi....g myself :( got a new standard size sim and it's ok.

Really guys don't go for the adapter you will be sorry!
[General Questions and Answers] chisleu:
Have something on my tablet that appears to be collecting location and device data and uploading it to umeng.com.

How do I make it stop?

EDIT: Apparently File Expert is the culprit.
[General Questions and Answers] qu1nn:
I see this in a log file. How did you determine the application which called it?
[General Questions and Answers] Riekr:
in logcat the number between ( ) is the pid of the process, you can check to which application belongs in ddms or a ps from console
[Droid Eris Accessories] mjb413:
So I upgraded to the incredible. Left me with an extra eris around. I had a battery powered speaker with aux hookup. http://www.ihomeaudio.com/iHM10S/ . It has a wonderful shelf for leaving my eris in horizontal (landscape) mode so I can plug it into the charger and the aux port. I had an old multivoltage ac adapter that could output 6v 300ma. I got tired of switching batteries in the speakers, so I made some wooded dowels into fake batteries and put some screws/wires on the end of them. Now i have a perfect bedside clock/mp3 player that displays weather etc and plugs into the wall. Only thing i am trying to figure out is how to patch my usb charging cable into it so I only have one thing to plug into the wall. Since my voltage is adjusted at the transformer on the outlet plug, I dont think that part is gonna happen. It looks nice and I can still take out my fake batteries, put in real ones, and use my battery powered speakers. Thanks to google voice, wifi, and cm7 internet call settings, I now have a home phone for free too :-) just thought I would share my quick little weekend project. Hopefully i can update with pics later.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uberZhero:
Hello, i am new to the whole modding thing, and i just wanted to know if there are any 2.2 or 2.3 roms that keep the default apps like timescape and others. I really love Sony's interface, but i hate the fact that it's running android 2.1. It would be very appreciated if somebody could give me a good recommendation.:D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kozxmartt:
You can try Wolfbreak's CM6.1.3 ROM. Its fast and stable. It does not have timescape by default, but he has provided a flashable zip of it for those who wanted timescape. :)

You can find its details here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=945264
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uberZhero:
Thank you I have looked around, and I think I'll stick with the default launcher until the Arc roms is finished.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MinoriAoi:
I have a custom Email apk with my FRG22D build on my Droid phone. Trying to update now to FRG83D, but it doesn't like the Email apk mismatch. Does anyone have an idea if it's ok to omit these lines in the updater-script file (that resides in update.zip)?

assert(apply_patch_check("/system/app/EmailGoogle.apk", "6084f7aa8b61040bc2ef81cb6c2733fedd771e11", "35fd89388108f2e84d1c5e24235727d78705b595"));

set_progress(0.066739);

assert(apply_patch_check("/system/app/EmailGoogle.odex", "08a0ca76aa3c134b44c48102349418c7c053441e", "d74645ddedda58c33bf5059ae1bfe95cda764cd1"));

set_progress(0.083266);​

Would the update still work? That is, does the updater replace these files (in which case this should work), or modify only certain parts of them (won't work)?

I unfortunately don't have the original Email APK that came with FRG22D.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MinoriAoi:
No one knows this?
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
hi,

with all the new awesome specs on the next big phone for Sprint: EVO 3D 4G... its going to be a monster.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=998958

but without a great supply of awesome Developers it will not be as great as the original EVO. This is a huge requirement for me...

Myn has expressed the desire to get a new EVO 3D 4G.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=998677

my question is.. what do the other devs think of this new phone.. and which devs plan to get the new EVO?
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
I was just going to post this topic we need a list of developers who will work on the new evo3d. Evo has been blessed with one of the best communities on xda and that is how I will truly decide which phone I get from now on, where the devs go, I go.
[EVO 4G General] jagox5:
+1 me too.

very interested what dev will upgrade and keep the Evolution going... with the Evo 3d.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
Don't you guys think this is a little premature? It hasn't even been announced yet, all we have are rumored specs. Wait till after CTIA when we actually know what it is and then people will know if they want it.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
true.. but that is on tuesday morning... so.. i was just getting an early jump on it.
[EVO 4G General] rushco:
This question shouldn't even be asked. Every device, "hey guys do you think the devs are going to upgrade from the hero to the evo?" Now it is, "hey guys, do you think the devs are going to get the latest phone?"

Let me go back even more. "This touch pro rocks. Are they devs going to get the touch pro 2?" Of course they do.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
sure.. most android phones will have someone that will mess around with it...

but some phones get more and better devs.. more adopters and active community...with more determinations and creativity.

shining examples: G1, hero/eris, incredible, EVO...

just look at the root forum and the list of all the android phones...HTC phones... not all have been as active as the one that I just mentioned.

tell you want... dont worry about it.. and just move on to the next thread/post.
[EVO 4G General] detusueno:
i'd put down $20 bucks each for Toast and Shinzul. like any HTC ROMs, there will be dozens of people making stock based ROMs but only a few can do what those two can. plus what would the evo 3d be without a mostly functioning (or even supported) CM?
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
It would be an EVO 3D with Sense and stable as hell.
[EVO 4G General] 12MaNy:
If toastcfh gets one....I'm going to get three.
[EVO 4G General] Crossrocker:
I definitely want toast and cyanogen with me. Also, I think sense is gonna be amazing with 3d.. oh well

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
Kudos and yippee ki-yay to that, brother.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
lol!!!!!!!!
[Vibrant General] pxc668:
I have an easy question about GPS, I am using Vibrant without network plan. So I don't know if I can use GPS with out any wifi or 3g? I am using the BV 1.3.1 now.. If that will work, how can I set up?
[Vibrant General] SykesAT:
GPS uses military run satellites to determine you location. The network or data transfer is irreverent. Your GPS will work without network connection.

Now lets say you try to navigate to a location with Google maps. This will not work, although the phone will know your location it can not use the network to DL the maps nor calculate your route. If you use a nav app that store a maps on your SD card, then you'll be fine
[Vibrant General] oka1:
+1 yup plus it will be slower
[Vibrant General] pxc668:
It will be slower? The GPS navigate will be slower or the phone will be slower? much slower?
[Vibrant General] pxc668:
Is there any nav app that we can't download free and store the maps in SD so that can navigate without network?
[Vibrant General] SykesAT:
I don't see how the phone would be slower, in any regard. It would not affect the phones processing speed, nor would the gps run slower. The only thing that could be slower is finding your location from a cold start, using network location can speed this, but imo it's irrelevant. Network location is too inaccurate for navigation.

There are some apps which store maps, but none that are free. Maybe someone else knows of one.
[Vibrant General] mattb3:
In my experience, GPS lock can be considerably slower without the network. The AGPS works by querying the network to get supplemental information like precise time and maybe ephemeris data (precise sat location) which can make a huge difference in acquiring lock. The phone is capable of acquiring lock without this network aid, but locks can take minutes, and accurate locks can take many minutes.

Of course, the other caveats about requiring off-line maps etc for navigation functions also apply.
[Vibrant General] ucancallmedanny:
I don't have a data plan either but my gps works just fine. It locks onto sats in about 10 sec.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10488647

thats open source map app where u can drop locations to go turn by turn (initially the maps load over wifi, but u can choose to save them and save them according to the resolution. I live in Atlanta so i only saved the GA portion with a decent resolution, which is nice that i dont have to worry about downloading states ill never need).

i personally use copilot live more (about 1gb for USA maps with poi)

i forgot the price, but it is 100% worth it (almost better than my in car navi)

Running bionix btw if that helps with gps lockon timings

and dont forget to get apn droid from the app store to make sure it disables all cellular network data. only downside is that if you want mms then u have to turn it back on reboot and then download the mms then turn it off again, but i dont get many mms anyway so its ok.
[Vibrant General] }{Alienz}{:
Get CoPilot Live USA.

Its $5 on the market and it preloads the maps for the country on your phone. Works WITHOUT data and the interface is SLICK. Full 3D navigation with really good voice turn by turn.

One of the best purchases I ever made. Hope it helps you too :)

PS: Maps get updated about every month so they are always current as far as road names and points of interest. Note that since it isn't using any data and data triangulation, if it is the first time you use it after a phone reboot it will take up to 3-4 minutes to lock on. This is normal as it is the same if you try any 3rd party GPS receiver navigation system. Once you've used it once since the phone has booted up, lockon time will be under a minute.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] MYxdaUSERNAME:
I've wanted the circle battery mod since I first saw it ported to the nexus one...being a droid owner (battery only in 5/10% increments) we could never have it...now that I have an HTC phone that does the 1% increments this is pretty much all I want right now..any easy way to do this or does it have to be completely redone for the TB?
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] aedillor:
try themes and apps section
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] MYxdaUSERNAME:
i'll give it a little bit, the mods can move this if they feel its the better choice..the original was in the Desire development section...not quite a theme or app...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=724778
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] R1lover:
Have you tried flashing the one from the incredible for skyraider sense 3.5? I have a feeling it might work... worth a try anyway.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] MYxdaUSERNAME:
nope, haven't tried any yet...wanted to see if anyone else has first..guess im gonna have to start backin up and goin for it. I even found a thread that says for any rom here..maybe that one will work.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=769470
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] MYxdaUSERNAME:
well, I installed adrynalyne's debloat rom and the circle battery installed without a hitch. so happy now!!

:D
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] LeoD:
Which circle battery did you install? The one in the link above?
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] worm-:
give it a few days, it takes some xml editing and services.jar editing. I have the framework modified, but i haven't even activated my tb yet since i just got it today
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] LeoD:
Thanks worm, this is why I was asking wouldn't want to put some other framework on the tb ;)
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] MYxdaUSERNAME:
this one
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] cmo220:
Here's some battery icons I made. I've tested them all and they work. I'm pretty sure these will only work on deodexed roms. Flash in recovery. Nandroid first. It's pretty easy to make them here http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/

By the way, I don't like the multicolor thing so these are all the color they're labeled as until it gets to 14% then it turns red.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] Thrillhouse847:
Thanks a bunch bud.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] cgrywalski:
Just made my first ever very own first circle battery exactly how ive always wanted it!! Yurray for root and OUT Kitchen
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] heffe2001:
Instead of just This one and a screenshot, how's about linking to the actual one your using, with a bit more info? I like that one pretty well, since it kind of matches the rest of the icons on the bar, but not sure which one you ended up using.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] Nic2112:
Thanks for sharing those, I was messing in the kitchen to make a blue honeycomb and didn't have time to figure out how to make the flashable zip, so thank you for making one.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] ryanstfl:
where can i get that battery?
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] BamaNZ:
whenever I use these they remove my transparent notification bar. Anyway to have these and a transparent notification bar?
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] walbuls:
Is there anyway to patch these into the stock with root? I love the bluehoneycomb one. This is my first droid and root so im still learning this.

Thanks
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] MYxdaUSERNAME:
pretty sure system needs to be de-odexed...but i never tried before i installed the debloat rom..