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[General Topics] dani26286:
of course! THAT'S LOGICAL!

@step666

BUT GREED DOESN'T GO AS WELL WITH HUMAN LOGICS, NOW DOES IT, MISTER BIG SHOT BUSINESSMAN!

let me give you this scenario. im going about my day to day life, with this utterly perfect for me ( cuz it's set up for my needs), glacier, with such professional service from T-Mobile, as so that you wouldn't care to much about dead zones, especially if you have a wireless hot spot somewhere, and when in need to write a detailed email, they dont even have the oddacity to even imply that tethering isn't free, especially if "unlimited" stands for a 5gb cap. what are you, out of your mind? and then att comes along, with its unprofessional practices, threatenes to eat it, and go on to promoting some closed source code non-sense thats past due already! and under this economy, now how would you think i might react otherwise, sir?

FYI, I'm in under no type of contract, cuz T-Mobile never once acted as desperate as to disrespect their consumers in such way, ad a perfectly priced everything included flex-pay plan, that even with the 5 gb cap, was still praised by the fine educated lady for not even getting close to that cap, the second time i changed my phone for QC issues, and bare in mind I AM A HEAVY ANDROID USER! it's my pocket size virtual window to the world, and its open source code for all of us to pitch in and innovate...
[General Topics] triggerftu:
this ^ is uncalled for.

and if shot tword me then keep in mind i'm a collage student who writes software on the side as a hobby. i'm just certified in multiple computer levels because i've been bored.

i'm thowing out there that there are other people that use there phones or android devices for other than a phone. i have my viewsonic g-tab i love it heck i have ubuntu on it as well as vegan-tab. my droid X is used for testing, same with my N1, droid 2. my only phone i have as a phone and possably + some is my moto droid 1. and yes it does run CM6.1.2 because i rather enjoy an open system rather than something VZW or moto have to advertise crapware i don't even want or use. i like to be able to over clock my phone. i like to be able to wipe the cache and make it run faster i like the use of swapper when i need to use it (even if it does bug out after a few uses).

so my responce on the topic was tword multiple types of uses that people use their phones for. other than a phone and other than a device that can play games (< pointed tword the $ony Experia play or psp phone as it is called)
[General Topics] dani26286:
Wait wait wait. Not you man! This dude, step666, not you, im sorry for the misunderstanding.

Interesting username there step. What, you wanna pass for some bad boy, or something. Gimme a break son!
[General Topics] triggerftu:
no prb bro. it happens. slow load of all the posts on my end i'm guessin..
[General Topics] dani26286:
^_^

yeah, it happens to me too.

and yeah, im tethering, so? sue me! dont have anything to lose anyway!

what a mess! i knew it would turn out to be like this! so stupid!
[General Topics] Step666:
I wouldn't be surprised - you seem to think Stockholm is in Scotland...

You can call me all the names under the sun, it doesn't change anything.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that your reliance upon personal insults belies a lack of any real basis for your ranting.

As I have repeatedly said, your tantrums are pointless because you have agreed to the terms the networks impose on their data bundles and contract law trumps 'wah, wah, that's not fair' every day of the week.
[General Topics] laoruga:
rooted all the way ..If a bought the phone:) i can do with tit what ever i want..
[General Topics] dani26286:
Step666, i truly have no intention to insult you, at all. I don't know you, all i know is that a lot of arrogance came through your post, and we are beyond that point of just arguing about the stupid tethering. If i have to pay for it (although i think its included in the plan, just not specified), i will,just that i,and not only i, find extremely insulting such an attitude twoards us, consumers.... This argument of yours seems to be just an excuse argument, to avoid the real issue.

Of course, you have all the right in the world to protect what you stand for, as do i. For what is worth, I'm sorry for insulting you, if that's what actually bothered you. All i was doing was using your post as an excuse to make a point in the bigger picture.

the bottom line is that what some argue is directly against what others argue. is all. nothing personal.

and the Stockholm / Scotland thing (an auto-correct prediction error while writing fast), my bad. was to tired last night to give this small insignificant detail the proper attention it needed to make the point that i was trying to.

im a 25 years old university graduate. some petty arguments just don't fly with me, as easy as some would expect!
[General Topics] Step666:
What's bothering me is more that we're going round in circles here.

Nothing I'm saying has changed at all and nothing you're responding with addresses anything I've said.
[General Topics] dani26286:
me, on the other hand, i think that a very big step has been made.

my "fight", is about making people aware of certain knowledge, through whatever written means i have at my side, and by that im not talking about my knowledge, which is limited, but about the one we are all able to contribute with . it might look as uncalled, or extremely imaginative, from a distance, but i dont really care, as long as the needed information to make everybody aware of certain implications is in the wild, where everybody can analyse them selfs, and have their own take on it, instead of just accepting the comfortable path of ignorance, which certain others use an A card for their own selfish goals, without taking in consideration other factors that in the long run, under a silk vale, can prove to not have such a positive outcome for all that are involved.

^_^

i get very passionate about abuse taking over common sense, specifically through ignorance. i see potential, and it pains me to see it fade away under ignorant corporate ways, that in the usa, at times, prove to be unprofessional and disrespectful. its just how i am, and if i can say something about it, i will, no matter through what written means needed for that purpose.

if i pass as offending at times with my posts, i sincerely don't intend to, for what is worth!
[General Topics] thongmobile:
thanks all
[General Topics] dani26286:
you're welcomed! ...for what though?
[General Topics] dani26286:
it's a vey good example, what you trying to do, for some carriers here in the US to follow. hopefully they didn't forsake themselves to such a point as to forget to learn...

question: so what's your take on this, objectively, taking all aspects in consideration?

of course, if u able to answer such question, with your job and such.
[General Topics] dani26286:
Here's a new one for you android enthusiasts out there. It seems like at&t is cursed, cuz for some reason, their take on innovation seems to be againts innovation itself, as goes for motorola and its peak on android innovation, called ATRIX. A 4g advertised device, limited at 3 (we all know why!), that now is on sale for a limited time, but only for newcomers... woooowwwwww! Slow down there horsey! Gotta say, some infallible marketing strategy you got guys:

http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-atrix-goes-on-sale-for-less-than-50-at-amazon-20110410/

But, before that, you find out that tmo is aggresive enough with its anti iphone/att ads, from here, if u still didnt manage to cath it yourself ....

http://blogs.forbes.com/marcbabej/2011/04/10/why-is-t-mobile-still-running-an-anti-att-iphone-ad/

And after that i bumped into this one:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...y-not-prompt-divestment-chart-of-the-day.html
[General Topics] dani26286:
sometimes i wonder if iphone is just another victim in this curse that att seems to be a lot about. although apple "*****es" a lot, its their way, take it or leave it. you can't truly blame them, cuz for what they stand for their good at it, and innovation came from them more than a couple of times...it's just that people need to understand, that some of us are starting to be more and more and more interested in android openness, potential, variety.

cuz sometimes im mean about iphone, but i dont really mean to be as much as i am, and it kind of makes me feel bad...so yeah!

and here comes your part att:

you can't make me want that which i don't see as something that could feed my needs, att! you gotta pay attention more to what i want, as a consumer, from your service, and get with the program. we're not just bearly experiencing technology, you know! in the last 50 or so years it's been an explosion of it, that allowed us to be who we are, as a society today ( which, at times, cuz of improperly balanced decision making...again, check previous admin of us, and other improoerly balanced decision making worldwide, in the not so distant to ancient history... proved to be,well, unfairly illogical ). so...what we gonna do know, huh? what's all of this all about? honestly? some stupid piece of paper that you get to leave behind when it's the time to go three feet underground?

i cant stress enough .... ILLOGICAL!!!!!!.....
[General Topics] Morsolo:
Thanks Dani :)

I actually did make a post on the issue a couple pages back, I'll quote it for you:

Again, as I've said, I can only really make statements based on my knowledge of telecommunications. Considering the issue at hand is in America, I only have a limited knowledge of the laws and regulations over there.
[General Topics] bottoi3:
Forum very interesting
[General Topics] dani26286:
:) you're right...
[General Topics] dani26286:
true, morsolo...for some reason it must of slip my mind, i knew that one was there. ..:o
[General Topics] dani26286:
more in the news:

http://www.wirelessweek.com/News/2011/04/Sunny-Side-ATT-T-Mobile-Deal-Business/

http://www.mobiledia.com/news/86603.html

http://zoknowsgaming.com/2011/04/11/atttmobile-deal-affecting-consumers-verizons-discontinuation-yea...

ANDROID = innovation for all
[General Topics] quicksite:
Then why don't you let it go, please. :)

Since you're not vested in the matter, and have made your core observation multiple times re contractual obligations, please just let it go. Of course you have the right to keep contributing to these threads, but is there a real point way past the point you made those primary points? Defense of logic or nailing some hole in argumentation seems pointless here.
[General Topics] dani26286:
:)

Thanks man!
[General Topics] dani26286:
more in the news:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...h-james-cicconi/2011/04/11/AFhzCTQD_blog.html

http://www.supplychaindigital.com/b...erger-deal-means-nothing-without-apple-iphone

http://blogs.itbusiness.ca/2011/04/lessons-for-canadian-mobile-market-from-the-attt-mobile-deal/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...tioned-by-fcc-official-over-price-impact.html
[General Topics] omegafiler:
For being awesome! And probably trying to get to 10 posts, like me. :)
[General Topics] dani26286:
thx.................................

:D
[General Topics] dani26286:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mob.../highlight/false/page/169?device-view=desktop
[General Topics] dani26286:
On topic:

http://m.cnbc.com/us_news/42557925/1?refresh=true

http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/3G/229401444?nomobile=1
[General Topics] quicksite:
Sometimes seeing marketing-speak "in-print" makes it so much more vivid

Take for instance AT&T's leading B***-Sh***er:

Read how adept he is at the teflon spin and slide -- partially addressing each question but leaving the core of the question, of course, unaddressed so he can press his more favorable talking point.

( Continue for the actual INTERVIEW... such B.S. >>> here )

And of course in the short-format of today's "interviews", no one challenges -- that's the only way they get the interview in the first place. If they're known to challenge or probe more deeply, boss-man is "out to lunch" and unavailable for interviews, as the secretary might say:

as in, never going to happen. So, we peons take what we can get, as dished up by corporate media in the USA, just skimming at the top. Sure, they'll ASK a tough question, but when the answer doesn;t come, the followup isn't there to say

So, as always, the oily execs love to "get out in front of the story" (as the media people like to call it) and "frame it" so that they position the story with THEIR NARRATIVE -- in this case

.... and that is the magic potion answer that is supposed to win the day with the FCC approval of this horizontal merger.

Related Story: AT&T’s Purchase of T-Mobile Questioned on Prices by FCC Official

Let's hope Obama's wimpy governing style doesn't give AT&T their dog biscuit just like he's given every other GIANT like GE and Bank of America their Corporate Welfare, while he looks so pained talking to the American people about their lost factory jobs in Detroit. Just a Republican in sheep's clothing, in bed with all the corporatists.
[General Topics] AnyMal:
I really can not fathom FCC and JD approving the merger leaving us with only three major carriers in US. I am not counting in MVNO's since they depend on the Big Three to operate.
[General Topics] heygrl:
One thread for all carrier related stuff is a joke. I mean the Motorola FLIPOUT has a subforum and we can't even get one to cover the most popular carriers on the forum.
[General Topics] Product F(RED):
Just a heads up guys, Sprint people can now bill Market purchases to their phone bills:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/13/android-adds-carrier-billion-option-for-sprint-users-just-in-ti/
[General Topics] chaochao_0627:
my place get for 20% balabala
[General Topics] JellyBeans8899:
XDA should make seperate carrier forums
[General Topics] Black6spdZ:
I've been asking for this ever since they deemed it necessary to hijack our original threads and smash it all together.
[General Topics] bobbyphoenix:
It used to be that way. I was posting stuff about Simple Mobile then one day that thread was gone. Now I have to weed through all this junk just to find info I need.
[General Topics] Lizzy345:
What's the deal with this? Is it still valid?
[General Topics] hakstarr:
this sucks

i have to agree with you
[General Topics] heygrl:
Still no separate carrier forums. Even Crackberry.com has it.

It's really sad that we have to be relagated to 1 entire thread.

Is NO ONE listening? Who do you have to contact about gauging interest to add another forum? Flopped phones like the Motorola Flipout have forums that are completely stagnant but we still don't have a place to discuss carrier related issues/news!!!!!!
[General Topics] quicksite:
.

That would be correct.

No one is listening.

Users' wishes were long ago steamrolled over.
[General Topics] bobbyphoenix:
I say we make our own. We should just create a new thread for each carrier labeled "T-Mobile thread", "Sprint thread", and so on. I can do it a little later today. At least it will separate the carriers out, so the discussions aren't jumbled all together.
[General Topics] bobbyphoenix:
OK so since I posted the suggestion hours ago, and nobody said that's not allowed, I went ahead and started a thread for each of the main US (well not really just US as they are around the world too, but just the main ones that came to mind) carriers for now. T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T. If it takes off, and people like the idea, we can add more from around the globe including branches from the main carriers like Simple Mobile who rents from T-Mobile I believe. I hope we can keep them, and if a mod is reading this, can you make them stickies if possible?
[General Topics] heygrl:
I just don't think it will work. Threads get buried and forgotten about easily here.
[General Topics] bobbyphoenix:
Yep. That's what's happening. That's why I asked for them to be stickies from the mods. No stickies and one was already moved to another area. Great. It was worth a shot anyway.
[General Topics] Frost25:
ok, so I registered, now where can I find the info for the deal?
[General Topics] ArmitageID:
Hmm....darn. Already have sprint. Oh well. Thanks for the post!
[General Topics] jesusprice:
Go to http://sprint.p.delivery.net/m/p/nxt/ais/wdyw.asp

I just did I had current sprint account. Now I'm receiving an additional 25% off my service.
[General Topics] RoseBuds:
The $125 Sprint offer expires 4/16. Not sure how long the StudentRate deal will go on for.
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
I bet a few people may jump on this plan.

Sent from my ADR6300 using......blah blah you get the idea.
[General Topics] _ice_:
Guide to lowering your monthly T-mobile bill

Okay since I am a loyal xda member, and a loyal T-mobile customer I will share my experience with the JD power and associate customer service award winners.

Anyway so basically I have 3 lines, 2 Lines running mytouch 4g's, 1 with a older LG.

our plan consists of

750 minutes- ehh add a line $5 each I believe

unlimited nights and weekends

unlimited texts for all 3 devices- $20 a month extra

unlimited 4g web for 2 devices- $30 per line @ $60

premium handset protection for 2 devices: $13 for both $6.something each

my total bill every month came to $178

after talking to customer loyalty and migration I lowered it to a whopping $128 after tax (Had to sacrifice the premium insurance plans since we baby our devices)

I am a student so I decided to do some digging to lower my bills..and this is what I got.

Now if you're a student or a relative of a student that is in your account this will work 100%!

part I:

to get a 10% discount (new or existing customers):

1. go to: http://www.studenrate.com

2. register as either a student or a parent (if you do not go to school)

3. confirm your account

4. call T-mobile account migration/ govt discounts @ 877-453-8824

5. Ask them about the student discount plan (tell them you found it at studentrate.com) and ask if you are eligible for anything

6. Agent will ask for your name and password- give it to them!

7. Then he/she will ask for a promo code, use: 13997TMOFAV you may also be eligible for discount on a device upgrade/ free equipment! (I didn't get it :o since I got my device a month ago) and this will also work for the 10% discount!

8. The agent will apply your discount, to check ask him when it will reflect on tmobile.com account (should take 24-48 hours)

9. Ask them to transfer you to customer loyalty center

Part II: (existing customers only)

Grandfathered plans

1. If the above worked, and you get a hold of another Agent, tell him you just got the 10% discount and you are looking to lower your bills more since you're a student (also praise their service a little bit)

2. Ask them about Grandfather plans

3. Usually the agent will offer you only 1! Ask them for more!

the ones I got that you can ask for:

-Unlimited Data (4g) indiv: $30 originally $20 Gf plan a month per line

-Unlimited Texting family: $20 originally $15 Gf plan a month all lines

4. Again be sure to ask the difference on your bill, and how long it might take to reflect.

5. Thank them, praise their service and enjoy the discounts!

6. Finally hit the button if you got your bills lowered and post a reply with your experiences!

Notes: be courteous to the agents! and take a note of their name/ ID if applicable for future references.
[General Topics] Olizzz99:
Who doesn't like a discount?
[General Topics] analyst303:
change your company... lol

no, seriously, go with your bill to the other companies and ask them how they can make it cheaper, after that go back to your company, show them your new offer and ask to leave them.

you'll see how they will give you a much better deal right away.... lol

it's like a market.... lol

hope i helped.
[General Topics] djstr0be:
Does anyone know if this works for existing Sprint customers? One of the questions it ask's is if your currently a customer. I just wont wanna fill out all the information and have a rep call me just to tell me im not eligible. As of right now im on a family plan with them and im getting raped!
[General Topics] MFisher13:
AT&T 10% Discount

Found this discount for AT&T and thought I'd share it with you all.

You get 10% off your monthly bill

Waived Activation Fee (on weekends only)

$50 Account Credit toward purchase of device

Free Shipping

Discounted Cell Phones

AT&T Discount
[General Topics] Plain_Jane:
Hey thanks for the AT&T discount, I'll go check this out.
[General Topics] CrackerJacks:
If you check you're already a sprint customer, you'll get an email with a link where you can get the 15% discount etc.
[General Topics] ginuwinqbin:
THANKS!!!!!!
[General Topics] tyrone1:
very nice... could use a discount :)
[General Topics] bambam913:
Im going to do this this weekend and see if I can get a lower bill. Ill post after with my results.

Trigger + Tigerblood = Winning
[General Topics] luzhuwang:
oh, that is great
[General Topics] ju1cy:
turn of your phone :) that's the best way 2 save ur money )))
[General Topics] EStone9:
I need a new phone, what cell phones are discounted?
[General Topics] zgod3189:
yess

awesome!!! thanks much!
[General Topics] EStone9:
This sounds too good to be true. Are there any catches?? Who has already got this deal, anyone?
[General Topics] MFisher13:
There's a bunch of phones on the site that are pretty cheap. You can also get refurb's phones that are wayyy discounted. Here's a link to the phones AT&T cell phones
[General Topics] Floraaa:
My parents are on AT&T, maybe I can hook them up since I still have an edu address and apply the 10% discount to the family plan
[General Topics] RoseBuds:
I got this deal and I'm really happy about it, that's why I'm sharing it with everyone.
[General Topics] loganpimpman42o:
that would be nice
[General Topics] EStone9:
I clicked on that link and it didn't see anything about $50 acct credit? Am I missing something?
[General Topics] EStone9:
Here, it was on the 1st post Tmo Deal
[General Topics] Jacks0870:
So if I fill out that form someone will call me like right away?? I want to get this today before it's gone.
[General Topics] MFisher13:
I'm sorry ya I must have been looking at an old ad or something. I guess there is no $50 acct credit. But it's still a good deal.
[General Topics] dh4645:
at&t ends illicit tethering ???

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/18/new_att_tethering_policy/

i havent even used it on my htc aria (rooted with cm7), but i want to have the option.

i pay for 200 MB / month, why does it matter how i use it?
[General Topics] androidrookie84:
Wow we have some snitches in here! :rolleyes:
[General Topics] jimmychristian:
I found this agreement seems to T-Mobile - as it is valid for new and existing consumer - extended contract of 2 years - it is technically a "student" discount but from what I've read in forums it get bunch of people without actually students

• 10% on eligible monthly recurring costs for new and existing customers (voice, text &

E-mail services included) * exclusions apply

• Waived activation fees ($ 35 savings per line)

• Free 2 day shipping
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
I read this on Engadget.

Isn't this illegal for them to magically add things to your contract which cost you money without giving you the chance to break your contract? As it may be considered a breach?
[General Topics] leemoss84:
it would be a breach if they didnt warn you first but it says that if you use it anymore from here on out it will be automatically upgraded. this sucks. guess ill have to start stealing the neighbors wifi!! surley someone can come up with a way around this.:cool:
[General Topics] Step666:
I think you'll find that the standard internet bundles have never covered tethering - they're not adding anything to your contract or amending it in any way, they're just enforcing what you'd already agreed to.

Because, as I say, you're paying for a bundle that expressly excludes tethering.