yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Just_s:
As I said, I am not trying to get you to switch, I could care less what you run, it's your phone. I just take exception to people taking a first blush look and then presenting that glimpse as the identity of a piece of software, when it is completely inaccurate.

I'll concede that my statement about customization is entirely personal speculation, I never claimed it was scientific, but that is my opinion and experience. And I don't formulate an opinion based on running a ROM for one day, I give it at least 4 days every time and usually more than a week. Believe me, I have a launch day EVO and I have run every one of the ROMs you are talking about, thoroughly. The truth is every one of them has merit or they would have faded away into anonymity. If you don't believe that all you have to do is look deep into the posts and find dozens of also-ran ROMs littering the basement of this forum.

Again, I am not trying to be yoda or swindle people into something. I don't have a personal stake in any of this, I just feel strongly that things should be represented accurately. And I would consider myself extremely knowledgeable on the differences between Apple and Android having run both for several years.

The bottom line is MIUI has definite similarities to the L-O-O-K of iPharce, but that is where it ends and that is what I want people to realize. If you disagree, that's fine, we'll agree to disagree. BTW, no anger here, not sure what's up, I'm just in it for discussion, not hating on anyone or anything you said, just offering a different take.

EDIT: one last question and I'm being serious, no sarcasm, what does come at me bro... HBGary mean? That one has me confused.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] issafram:
It wasnt first blush look.....i have had a launch day evo as well (eclair ****er). Don't try to give me that under hand bull **** or try to prove something. Be confident about your knowledge of evo custom roms as much as you want, but don't you ****ing dare pretend you know **** about me. I don't post often on here, but I read these forums every day.

/end rant

And oh yea, cm7 owns miui. Always and forever.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Just_s:
Dude, I don't know what you are talking about? I don't know where your hostility is coming from or why you think we are fighting or why you think I am judging you. I'm not in a competition. I'm providing information. I thought you were too, but for some reason you are coming off as angry. That's fine, my opinions of the ROMs remain the same. I have no opinion of you either way. I'll leave it at that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Just_s:
Are you opposed to running Darktremor's a2sd? That would take care of your space problem in a hurry. Some people don't like it/understand it, but I've been using it for a long time and have nothing but good experiences with it. I use it whenever I run EViO. It's very easy to install/uninstall and another member just came out with a cool GUI for it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] odawg1022:
Sense

I Like sense roms because the facebook and twitter contact syncing i've tried a few aosp roms and they run ok but they seem a little blan to me and they just dont get my contacts right. I like the fact that when someone chages their facebook pic it changes on my phone too or shows up at all for that matter.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] issafram:
It is more of a joke....take a look at the link

http://tinyurl.com/4rwpsmz
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtwombly:
Originally Posted by troyboytn

Calks Evio roms are hands down the best I have used....and I have tried them all. Lightly visually modded and very fast and extremely stable.

+1 on Calk's EViO. Have tried most sense roms, but no roms can complete with the stability of EViO, battery life with undervolt, and mature (light) theme. The best one for my taste and performance needs.

+1
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] issafram:
I'm all about that Thanks button! ;)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] issafram:
Lol before you edited your post it was just +1.... So yea ill just assume +1 for me cause im a greedy bastard. I will have my cake and eat it too!!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtwombly:
Haha trying to post a quote from mobile.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] durandetto:
King's Ultra ROMS are really fast and stable.

Sent from my EVO 3G!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsolutZeroGI:
The fastest and snappiest rom: MikFroYo 4.5

The most themed and pretty: Myn Warm TwoPointTwo RLS5

The best of both worlds: Konikub's Elite Series III

Mik Z and Myn Z are Sense 2.0 roms and they don't have 4g yet, so they aren't fully functional, but they are gorgeous and work perfectly.

Stock is pretty awesome too and I'll run it every now and again.

I haven't personally tried the rest of the sense roms but I might some day :D

I've also used CM6 (on two prior phones), CM7 on this phone and Destroyer's rom and they freaking rock too.

The best battery life I've gotten is from the rom/kernel combo I have in my sig. 24 hours with almost 30% battery left and I have a picture to prove it if anyone wants to see it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigant262:
Is there any rom that you can move any app to sd like in CM? And that can use AOSP browser and/or contacts? I know Vaelpak can but was wondering if there were any other Sense based roms that could do that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n1ghtfl1ght:
MIUI

Yep, MIUI for me too. Just has a great look and is very functional. I also like the "apple feel" because it looks nice and feels snappy.

however.....

Bad things about MIUI

-text message notifications don't update until you exit out of messages and go back in again.

- A few apps are a little buggy

-Copy paste function sucks really bad. (sometimes not usable)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] issafram:
Can you explain Konikub's Elite Series III a bit more please? I'm very interested.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsolutZeroGI:
Your best bet is to head over the development section and check it out as I can't think of all the things he does to that insanely awesome rom of his. I do know he zipaligns his apks and optimizes the apps like MikFroYo does so it's extra snappy. His taskbar, and general theming is very dark, much like Myn's Warm. His icons, task bar, even his stock HTC messaging and contacts widgets have black backgrounds so the theming is consistent throughout the rom, which even Myn's doesn't do (at least not yet, come on RLS6!!).

Here's the link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=941055

There's screen shots and a full list of changes, updates and features. ACS stands for Android Creative Syndicate, who are pretty freaking good at what they do.

I flash stuff all the time and have nandroid backups for Destroyer (a CM7 aosp kang), MikFroYo, Stock and MikZ but I always end up going back to Koni's Elite Series.

Oh Christ, I sound like such a fanboy. Okay, someone take me out behind the barn and shoot me.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loumoli:
Kings ultra!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DevilInPgh:
Tried it. When I install Titanium Backup and reboot, it puts my phone into a boot cycle. And when I upgrade Busybox as well, it freezes my phone at the startup screen (not the boot animation, the one before that). But thanks to its thread, I saw that I can boost my app storage using Dalvik2Cache. I think I'll try out SprintLovers and flash that with it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsolutZeroGI:
I've never had the problem. The worst bug I've found in III is sometimes when the phone turns on the Sense widgets will double up (as in there's 2 in the same space). A hot restart fixes that.

Did you do a complete wipe? Konikub has also stated that for best results, you should flash Calk's Format All. Never had a boot loop problem in any version.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnybrx:
Definitely have to recommend MikFroyo, although I am excitedly waiting for 4.6 which will be odexed and even faster.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] issafram:
You guys waiting on a PROPER 2.3.X Sense release or you using any of the kangd ones (like Kingdom and such)?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GrimReaper24:
Lol why don't you like Koni's rom it's pretty smooth. You can swap out the clock and keyboard and some icons and it looks sweet.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thattallbastard:
Sense

I've been using the Kingdom B1 port for the past couple of days and I'm loving it. Of course it's not a finished product, but all of the basics work. It's the best for having Gingerbread and Sense 3.0.
[Xoom General] mobilehavoc:
It's posted elsewhere on here but please do yourself a favor and go sign up for the Swiftkey beta (or called VIP) to access it. It's downright awesome. Apart from a standard layout they offer a thumb keyboard that works very very well. There are a bunch of customizable options and the UI/design is very honeycombish so it blends right in. I'm using it now and while it takes a little while to get used to using a thumb keyboard it's much more comfortable when you're holding the tablet.

I'm loving it.
[Xoom General] stewie63:
It's okay, but the actual Thumb Keyboard app has a much nicer layout imo. Hopefully SwiftKey will listen on their forums.
[Xoom General] Elysian893:
Ive actually got a newer version than the one in the VIP but thats becauser of a specific issue i pointed out in the beta program. Its ok but the text prediction on the version on my Droid is WAY better. I disabled prediction on my Xoom, still get suggestions though.
[Xoom General] burden010:
I saw this on Android Central a while ago, looks pretty nice. I'll check it out when I can.
[Xoom General] wynand32:
Tried out Swiftkey on my Xoom, and the thumb layout keys are way to small for me. Thumb Keyboard is still much easier for me to type with--I'm up to about 40 words a minute with it, and can't get anywhere near that with Swiftkey.
[Xoom General] myv6mustang:
Another for thumb keyboard.
[Xoom General] keitht:
Another happy thumb keyboard user.
[Xoom General] arrtoodeetoo:
Thumb Keyboard. +1
[Xoom General] ZBoater:
Another vote for Thumb Keyboard!
[Xoom General] Elysian893:
That's the feedback we all gave in the official alpha Google group, too much black space, too small of keys. They've already addressed issues for us. I hated Thumb Keyboard, uninstalled it before the 15 minutes were up. SwiftKey's text prediction is just great, Thumb Keyboard can suck it.
[Xoom General] PaulG1488:
both are great but at the end of the day I found myself going back to thumb keyboard
[Xoom General] csseale:
Thumbing it....
[Xoom General] chrisharmful:
Maybe it's me but I find the regular keyboard or SwiftKey easier to type as in like on a real keyboard. It's just too damn awkward typing with my thumbs all the time. I do like the Tron look of SwiftKey though.
[Xoom General] rajones19:
Another vote here for Thumb Keyboard. I first bought it for my DX, and really liked it there; I had high hopes for it on the Xoom, and I was not disappointed. This should have been the keyboard that shipped with the Xoom. If the standard Xoom keyboard was my only choice, I would have returned the Xoom after one day. I believe that for SwiftKey to even a prayer they need to split the portrait mode keyboard the way Thumb Keyboard is. I've got big hands, and the stretch to type in portrait (my default orientation) is too much for me.
[Xoom General] atoy74:
I was using thumb keyboard until this beta came out. I think I agree about button size, they need to be a little bigger. Aside from that, it's great.

One thing I like is that SwiftKey still shows text prediction and spell check with a bluetooth keyboard connected. That was lacking with the stock and thumb keyboards.
[Xoom General] mobilehavoc:
You all now that Swiftkey for tablets has a thumb keyboard built in right? Are you saying you don't like that or were you not aware? The default is qwerty but there is an excellent thumb keyboard built in which is what I use. It's better than Thumb Keyboard IMHO.
[Xoom General] eallan:
It seems far too small for me, cool looking as it may be.
[Xoom General] gaspump:
Swiftkey confirmed for awesome. In response to a query last night about general availability for HC, they sent me a beta invite.

Maybe not so exclusive, but I thought it was a nice touch.

Still getting used to it, but I think what I like best is how the "tron" theme fits in with the rest of the stock HC theme.

Also... make it create sentences from scratch! Type a word then just start hitting space. Hilarious :D
[Xoom General] kkwus74:
Is there a newer version that came out in the last 2days?

Sent from my HTC Evo
[Xoom General] jvs60:
SwiftKey keys are too small in the thumb layout
[Xoom General] marctronixx:
not that i see, just for mobile handsets.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turmoil86:
My power switch/ribbon on my vibrant broke and this seems to the only site i can find online that carries this part but they only sell in bulk. Does anyone know of any site in the US/EU that i can order this part from? Thanks in advance

http://www.mobilephone-spares.com/Samsung-I9000-Power-Switch.html
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turmoil86:
anyone?

10 char
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NeoA:
There was a mention on the developer page regarding BLN being available.

Can someone please post a pointer to the same or elaborate ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12251249#poststop
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12252891
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Opening up a Nexus One thread.

wow holy revers kirfing batman they beat us to it

KIRF=keeping it real fake lol

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apocali3

So yeah This is the thread for the Project 7 Evo(Temp. name.) we are currently calling this a Project. We must be patient. This will take several months to complete.

so vote on the Poll what you are wanting to run on your EVO

vote this thread also to be on the front page.

Windows Phone 7 on the HTC EVO 4G, imagine the possibilities

Development so far

Myn(developer)

miphonematt (developer)

Lui22(tester[if the team agrees on it])

PEOPLE WHOM MIGHT BE A GREAT CONTRIBUTOR

Echoside(

maybe

)

.....

The list will grow

the bounty is

Thank you aimbdd for keeping count!!!!

these changes have been applied for the greater good
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Reserved for Rules

1. No negative remarks

2. Our Purpose here is to help eachother so lets do that.

3. No Gloating.

4. No saying negative remarks about other devs, or community members.

5. Pressing the "Thanks" button every time someone finds something is greatly encouraged.

6. STAY ON TOPIC!!!!

7. Only dev teams can mention anything about license.

8. DO NOT ASK FOR ETA's remember this is a project no guarentee of complete succes....., as of yet

9. Just because you can post does not mean you should do it. Post things that are of some worth to the project
[EVO 4G General] hongha_222:
it's great to see wp7 working on evo :p
[EVO 4G General] dc13:
im in to help since i know a little windows

ill be talking to people about how this needs to pan out while out to sea this week and will update this post as things come in.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
thanks guys tell as many people as you can and vote for this thread!!
[EVO 4G General] Stalte:
I PM'd an HD2 developer about what we need to make this work. I don't know what half of this stuff is.

Original Message:

Hi

First of all you will need a "magldr" for your device.

without being able to flash it it's not possible at all.

i guess you need to talk to cotulla about this.

You also need proper drivers for the hardware (this will be a problem i guess)..

i wish you good luck.

Xda-Member: hd2owner
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
**still ready to beta test :D
[EVO 4G General] wanfaltm:
Hopefully this thread actually gets off the ground. I would absolutely LOVE for this to eventually be a reality.
[EVO 4G General] derekwilkinson:
The HTC Evo does not have a Windows Mobile license...
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
License?

Oh, that... it's for purely educational purposes LOL

We don't want to really run wp7... just see if it will!

Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G General] dannyniceboy:
I am sure Microsoft would hate if more people used windows phone 7 and purchased from their market... N2m several people pointed out in the last thread that hd2 isnt liscensed for wp7 either. Anyways I am good for 25 with working netflix :-D
[EVO 4G General] AyoJake:
hd2 doesnt have a wp7 license either.

hopefully someone will pick this up i would try out wp7.
[EVO 4G General] NinjaWolf:
This is going to die real fast,lol, and i dont think it should be ported even if it could, if you wanted this you should have bought a WP7 instead of evo.
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
That's one of the most idiotic statements I've ever read. Most of us bought Evos over 7 months ago, before WP7 was even released. Now we want to be able to run WP7, just like the HD2 users can.

And I think it's ridiculous if this thread, or this whole movement is shut down by the mods. Neither the HD2 nor the Evo have Windows Phone 7 licenses. If they can do it, so can we.
[EVO 4G General] NinjaWolf:
umm...at&t is always open to new customers...or amazon is preordering the htc arriveWP7 on sprint) for 50 bucks.
[EVO 4G General] jlechner:
Stay on topic. Don't even respond to negative people or it'll just get deleted again.
[EVO 4G General] AyoJake:
umm that deal is for new customers if someone has an evo im guessing they have a contract with sprint already...anymore arguments?
[EVO 4G General] NinjaWolf:
let me think...well theres always digging into you bank acc and ending you contract early then going to at&t
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=744808#post744808

i will not host the project on this site. we do need a dev, the thread is now located here.
[EVO 4G General] AyoJake:
by that post you pretty much just said you have no other valid arguments...
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
While I do see your point, I see it this way: Technology is moving very fast and new and better smart phones are coming out all the time. From the look of the poll here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=999972 it seems that many EVO users are planning the EVO 3D as their next device (developers included). That said, doing the port now on the EVO 4G will be valuable as the developers can learn what needs to be done, and with the likely chance that these developers will move to the EVO 3D, they will be able to do the same thing on the next phone though easier because they will have the know how. Bottom line- we have to start somewhere, why not start here? As soon as these ports become more common, the know how to do so will be more widespread and porting to future devices will hopefully be less of a challenge.
[EVO 4G General] jwoytk01:
I've read this thread many times now. I really don't understand why ANYONE is trolling. I think it's a great idea. And who cares about things that happened in the past? You all have my support.

Sent using my Gingerbread-laced EVO.
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
I've seen a couple posts now about "once this is done for the EVO, we can repeat the process for other devices". Unfortunately, that's not quite how it works. There are little nuances/caveats with the minor differences with each device that simply make it considerably more complicated than that. The smallest difference like a newer version of a storage controller IC could mean 150 hours of new coding and testing and debugging. These devices that are seemingly similar, are actually vastly different. When we as users look at a phone, we simply see the surface items... the proc, the screen, the camera, the radio... things like that. Just because two phones both have the QSD8650, doesn't make them similar device other than having the same proc (which is a smallll part of the picture). This is the reason why the HD2 is the only phone to date that has had it's bootloader mod. The same effort will be require for each and every device that would like this mod.

The HTC Arrive won't necessarily help devs with creating a bootloader nor ROM for the EVO either. There are already available ROMs that can be ported to the EVO once a bootloader is developed.

I personally feel that the EVO is here to stay for some time now. I don't think we'll start to see a decline in EVO interest until 3-6 months after the 2 year anniversary of the EVO's release. Think HTC Hero... I think they are STILL deving ROMs for that device, and it's not nearly as awesome as the EVO. And for those who are like me, and replace their device every 6-12 months... there will certainly be other devices to have the option to go to around the time the EVO 3D is released... I don't know, I just foresee this project as having tremendous value. The EVO is one of the best selling Android phone to date, and there are tons of users, and people are still buying the EVO as we speak.

Having the option to dual boot Android and WP7 on our EVO's will enable use to have a larger library of games and apps, different tools to use for our every day lives... we do use our phones for things other than flashing ROMs hehe. I use my calendar/day planner all the time... I have 3 email accounts that are very important to my financial well being on my phone (and my Xoom). There is some integration on WP7 that would very useful to me. I could rant for hours about why being able to dual boot WP7 and Android would be valuable. I'm just as anti Micro$oft as the next dork... but my checking account likes me to be less biased than that when it comes to tools to make life easier/better.
[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
exactly. not everyone gets to/wants to/can Afford to, upgrade to the newest phone upon arrival. the reason the Hero still gets attention is because there are Many people still using, purchasing used, and loving, that phone. and as many more upgraded to the Evo (and beyond) the Hero found quite a niche in the "economically disadvantaged" sectors as an easy-to-acquire smart phone, for some their first. The same will happen to the Evo later this year. Hell, I still know a fella using an HTC Mogul, my used one. For him, it's the bomb.

So anything that extends the life of, broadens the scope of this phones uses is an Awesome thing, and will be appreciated by many for quite some time.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
I understand, and I wasn't suggesting that we can reapply the same process to new phones. What I was suggesting was that right now, nobody really even knows how to do this, once a developer learns how to do this, figuring out the next device will/should be a lot easier...

Tapa tapa tapa
[EVO 4G General] hongha_222:
Waiting for tester ....
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
gonna be a long wait man. we haven't even started yet. im sorta waiting on myn to see what he wants to do.
[EVO 4G General] AyoJake:
i'll definitely test if/when this thing gets going.
[EVO 4G General] bonikowsky:
testing

be glad to do testing if needed... sounds like a sweet project
[EVO 4G General] hongha_222:
just hope this threat not dead :D
[EVO 4G General] davebu:
I would have never thought anyone who had a chance at porting this would ever do it, good luck I wish you luck. This is no easy task. It can be done, as it was on the HD2. HD2 got android thanks to the EVO and WP7 thanks to the HD7, why cant the EVO go back through the same track right? I'd be a little scared to flash this myself, but I can't wait to see it.
[EVO 4G General] smallba:
I'd be down to test this
[EVO 4G General] jwoytk01:
Any further info on this? I don't want to be the guy that tells the haters they were right.

Sent by my creepy uncle.