yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sadoway:
I did the exact same/had same results. LUS-CA same

actualy, tried it with a space instead of just empty. no error. rebooted. still up to date at 7008
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] nVd90:
I am pretty sure that the LUS-CA stands for TELUS-CANADA, they just knocked off the te since tel-ca is too vague and telus-ca is too long for the hex registry key.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] MartyLK:
Yes, that's what I meant...the Chevron unlocker. That's the only way to get the update for HTC devices. And AT&T isn't nearly as bad as ppl make them out to be. The main issue ppl have with AT&T is that in certain higher population areas, the coverage isn't so good. With T-Mobile's networks, that will be resolved. Beyond that, AT&T is kust like any other service company: bloodsucking leeches.

From what I read, Telus in AUS is much worse.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] poy41:
exact same here, LG Q7 and mine was set to: BEL-CA
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sadoway:
im going to leave mine changed, ill post if i get an update before the telus one.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Barbbachello:
We dont have Telus in Australia. We have Telstra which is pretty much the same :P
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] MartyLK:
Yeah...that's what I meant.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] martyramos:
Access Restricted

Using TouchXperience's Registry Editor and getting an error when navigating to key. When I select System from HKLM, I receive a message: "Access to the registry key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System" is restricted. Any thoughts? Thanks!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] blackpenny15:
Reread the first page again!, you will need to use a reg editor that uses the native api's, any app that browses the reg will give you access denied issues.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] fb401:
Yea, I actually tried this a few weeks ago on my LG. First I set the MO to "000-00" and that didn't work. Then I set it to a blank space, and yet it still doesn't work.

I'm 99% convinced now that the LG Panther & Samsung Taylor will not get conventional updates.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] freelancex:
Just followed the guide in post 1. Removed "ORG-GB" from mine and as soon as restarted my phone it detected update. Went through the process and now have 7008 (Feb update).

No sign of the No-Do update though.

Have a Samsung Omnia 7 on Orange UK.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] FiyaFleye:
Wouldn't this, in theory, give you the wrong radio if HTC included region specific radios? If they included a certain radio for unbranded phones, and radios for T-Mobile USA, etc? Or would Microsoft send the right update dependent on your location...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
While there's no way to be certain, I doubt they would use this key to determine which radio to send. That's probably coming from hardware identifiers of some form. As always, YMMV and don't blame me if MSFT decides to force down a bad radio.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] FiyaFleye:
I doubt it'll be a "bad" one, but maybe not the optimal one... But I will be doing this if TMoUSA follows their German siblings and waits til the end of April...

Sent from my HD7 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] lucasryan:
Can we not use this same method that we are using here to write to this part of the registry, to write to other parts of the registry as well for the samsung focus, like the search scopes and sms tones?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Mallux:
I got the update message, but my phone keeps failing to update (Error Code: 800705B4 - Your phone can’t finish the update because it timed out.)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] l0rd0din:
The Method in the first post Worked.

The method worked. I was able to get the first update!

Not the NODO THOUGH.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] eyal453:
no nodo

Thanks for all this info.

I have used it and got my 7008 update on my Samsung Focus. But like everybody else here, I didn't get the NoDo and my device is "up to date".

This is really interesting. If it was just the branding parameter that blocked the updates I would expect to get the NoDo right away. I think it's safe to assume that the branding is not the only thing that blocks an update. I wonder what it is and why it's still being blocked.

Eyal
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pLUSpISTOL:
On my Omnia 7 UK I have the 7008 pre-NoDo update and I thought this would let me get NoDo, but the registry key isn't actually there! You can only go to HKLM/System.

Lol.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
Did you read the first post?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
The next key (Platform) is hidden. You have to go straight through to DeviceTargetingInfo. You can enumerate the values in that key, or just directly set the MobileOperator value.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] _rico:
Just guessing here, but perhaps your carrier (I'm assuming AT&T) actually certified the first update and "soft" blocked it by relying on the settings in the registry to disallow the phones on its network to see the update. If we assume that to be true, it would seem to follow that NoDo hasn't been certified by AT&T yet.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] thealanshow:
I get the exact same problem...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] eyal453:
yes. But then, once we remove the value from the registry key the pre-update is available. If it was the same thing with NoDo it would also be available, no?

I looked at what I believe to be the http request to check if the update is available and it's going to a microsoft zune server ( i could be wrong. there were a lot of requests there). If it's checking against a MS server and not a carrier server then it must be one of the parameters on the phone that prevent it from showing an update.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] StevieBallz:
Have a look here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-schedule.aspx

Some phone models are getting it, others aren't yet, some operators are getting it (based on the device branding discussed here) others aren't and even if your device is eligible for the update already it is done in waves so I guess it's kind of a roulette for open market (unbranded) devices when during the following days they will get it.

As Microsoft said - even when your operator allows it (for branded devices) it can take several weeks until the update is delivered to you.

Guess that is a disaster prevention strategy and will be sped up with the next update rollout...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] KingpinEX:
got 7008 on my Focus. now what do we have to do to get NoDo?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] jasongw:
*Sigh*. I'm already sick of this bull****. If they don't have this COMPLETELY sorted by July, I'm saying **** off to WP7 and going back to iPhone.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sadoway:
you wait for them to release it for your device, they are slowly rolling it out.

also check here. its not super specific, but it gives you an idea.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Flow WP7:
Hm, my guess is since the "pre-NODO" changed the update process, this method only works for pre-NODO, after that there might be another registry key for the check or multiple or what ever. We have to look around deeper.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sadoway:
or the nodo update isnt out yet. just cuz the blogs say it is. doesnt mean it is.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Bernhard005:
Damn, same situation with my Samsung Omnia 7 ("registry-unbranded" T-Mobile Germany)

Which devices are you using?

And i don't like the Workaround published by Microsoft. Removing Music, well ok. But removing applications? What about my settings? And the apps which have been removed from marketplace. Great. Really great.

Now I'm wondering if I have to do this sooner or later to get the update or if the carrier-approved update will fix this issue.

However, the update is coming very very soon, end of April as published by German Telecom over Twitter. Great. Really great again.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] goldenpipes:
i just did the reg hack and installed the update it wouldnt work the first go around but i hard reset my phone and then it worked. i hard reset it becuase i put my 32gb sandisk calss 4 back in just for the hell of it.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] alex2364:
I had the same issue on my Samsung Focus and removing all apps and music didn't work. I had to do a hard reset and it finally loaded the update.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Mallux:
after getting my phone to update, im unable to change the mobile operator back to ATT-US. When i attempt to, press the "write" button and some gibberish pops up in value box that i can't even recreate on my computer. Not good?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] thealanshow:
Samsung Focus. Actually, I got it working last night. The update wouldn't take, but I removed ALL side loaded apps and it worked to perfection... And by perfection it got in an endless cycle of booting and rebooting, over and over again... Eventually after a lot of anxiety my phone rebooted and boom, I had 7008. I would not recommend doing this on a Samsung device just yet. I think there's a reason why carriers blocked the preNoDo update. As crazy as it sounds **Gulp** AT&T was thinking in my best interest for once... Strange...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] madonion:
Has anyone actually used this method to get nodo?

And does updating to 7008 readd the network name in the registry entry or is it gone for good?

Also, if you change this and get the update is it still a network branded rom? I guess so.....
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Bernhard005:
@ alex2364 and thealanshow:

Thanks for your responses. :)

Well, I guess it's really better to wait for the carrier certificated one. I really don't want to hard reset, cause I don't want to lose my data, especially SMS...

However, now I know that deleting apps and music would, as expected, probably not fix the issue...

So my last hope is that the carriers will work a little bit faster than expected or at least keep the expected appointment... :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] thealanshow:
Take some solace in the fact that the update is pretty uninteresting. There are some under the hood improvements, but all in all it is worth waiting for. However, if this was NoDo I'd say go for it... If I get a NoDo update request I will post here...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Bernhard005:
Yes, I know ;)

I'm not excited about the pre-nodo update. But as I heard my carrier is offering the update end of April, I thought this could help to get the update a little bit earlier ;)

I changed the registry settings back to it's default value, so I can observe the status of carrier updates. However, i will still observe this thread for any news, perhaps a working nodo-update is still coming for "registry-unbranded" devices.

(Would be really funny, if Microsoft would accidentally install an unbranded rom because of this little modification. *gg* [Of course this is very unlikely to happen ;) ])
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] thealanshow:
Dumb question, could you hypothetically brand your carrier to another region, download NoDo, then switch it back?...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] HoorayBeer:
I don't believe pre-nodo is worth all this effort.. Ill wait for full nodo.. And if there is a way to "hypothetically brand your carrier to another region, download NoDo, then switch it back?" i dont think my att focus would get the update still. i think msft is controlling the update in a different way
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] KingpinEX:
I made a simple debrander rebrander app for samsung devices.

I wasnt able to test it yet cuz i made it from my girls friend pc and i don't have my usb cable here. check it out and tell me if it works.

for samsung only. (if u all ready debranded your phone the app will probably wont work.)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] jonandkym:
While I am not directly recommending people do the pre-nodo update, I believe there is one serious upside to it... I did a Linpack test with the trial Benchmark app in the market and my results went from ~25 MFLOPS before to ~35 MFLOPS consistently. I didn't do things very scientifically, but I have never gotten higher than the low value on the pre-nodo and I have several times gotten the high value after the update. *On the Samsung Focus
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] chrislynch:
So, I want to know if anyone saw if Zune backed up your phone prior to installing the pre-NoDo update. I have two phones that both didn't backup at all, even though MS stated that an update would kick off a backup of our phones. Can anyone confirm if there phone did backup?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] bigfoune:
thx KingpinEX

when i clik on debrande your phone it says your phone is debranded but then it doesn't work on my omnia "code pin incorrect";)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] bigfoune:
yes of course;)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] thealanshow:
When I ran through it, it did not backup the phone, at least it did not appear to...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] (nico):
Just FYI, the last version of my registry viewer allow browsing + editing on this key.

Work on HTC, may or may not work for other devices.

Link: http://bit.ly/gUa7NT
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] michael_chea7:
If i make the registry change, will i have to change it back after the update?

Also since the update is supposed to close the hole that chevron unlock uses will my sideloaded apps still work?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] thealanshow:
You do not have to change it back. All the unbranding does is change the regional designation of the phone, it does not affect the radios or connectivity of the phone.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] alex2364:
Anyone know if I do a hard reset after making registry changes, will it go back to default registry settings?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] michael_chea7:
ok cool, what about the sideloaded apps though? ie: I am a beta tester for TouchXperience on WP7 and for the Windows Phone Device Manager, will I still be able to use those after running the update? Or what about an accent changer that I had to sideload?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] thealanshow:
I've often wondered that myself. Conventional wisdom would say no. Generally factory resets (from phones) tend to push out all side running software and keep the OS pretty much as it was before the reset. Look at the iPhone. If you jailbreak it, then do a factory reset on the phone it just removes the jailbroken software but if you did an edit on the phone's OS it remains the same. That's why you can take an original iPhone, jailbreak it to read the battery in percentage form rather than images, and then factory reset it and it will still retain battery bar in percentage form. To be able to revert all registry values back to default I would assume it would have to be done from a computer, but don't quote me on that.

Essentially to send an OS back to it's default values I would think it would need a backup template that would be equal or damn near its size. Essentially if your phone is carrying two sets of registry values (one template and the other executed) then it would make for a rather bloated OS. Yet again, I could be wrong...

I'm not exactly familiar with those pieces of software, but I doubt it would effect either one. For me, I still get marketplace updates (earlier today I got a Chicks n' Vixens update and a Facebook one) so I would assume it is rather innocuous in that regard...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] alex2364:
Well, I don't know anything about the iPhone, but I noticed after I did a hard reset, the changes I made under the Samsung diagnostic mode went back to default settings. So that would lead me to believe registry settings are set back to default values as well.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] thealanshow:
That's really good to know. If I didn't fear losing my data on my phone I'd be tempted to make a bunch of changes and then see if they kept on a factory reset...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] michael_chea7:
Any other Samsung users that used an Accent Changer test this out yet, or maybe even Custom Ringtones, can you still use the same method as before with the update?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Rcf686:
I have a Focus and I did the registry change 2 days ago and got the pre-NODO update. Everything still works like it did before including all my sideloaded apps. Now I am just waiting for the wave to hit that will update mine to NODO.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] wsantiagow:
Your tool worked perfect! Thanks alot! 7008
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] iposminus:
So I keep reading around the web, that if you have unbranded WP7 phone, you should get the NoDo. How come my unbranded Omnia 7 still says 7008 is the latest?

Am I missing something?

Beacause I'm worried that I might have to wait for quite long if I rely on our carriers. :S
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] FunkTrooper:
If you're debranded you should get it soon. MS say they're in the process of rolling it out, or something to that effect anyway.

I have a SIM-free, always unbranded Optimus 7, and I'm still on 7008.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Sweet Lowdown:
Thanks

Worked like a charm, Thanks.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] wheelerk:
Use the Samsung Registry editor list at the begining of the thread. I did and it worked for me. I have the same phone and carrier as you.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] wheelerk:
For my Focus, i removed all the music and some apps that I won't be using anyway. It didn't work. So this morning I tried it again from my wife's laptop and it worked. It was weird, so It must be something else causing this issue. I think I will look a the drivers and see if they differ on each laptop.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] jsbieber:
thanks, worked for me! i have an at&t samsung focus. Worked without issue! Stupid AT&T blocking these updates.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] andycted:
I'm in the same boat and I've ran out of ideas, if you find any useful tips it would be great
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] jmjh88:
carrier unlocking

i have an LG Quantum and found another thread about using a reg hack to get it carrier unlocked. followed the instructions and it worked for me to get 7008. hopefully when the nodo rolls out i'll get that immediately as well. can't wait to see:cool:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pjodm:
Someone in Ontario said he has a Samsung Focus & after unbranding it he got the NODO update.

Does anybody have a clue if changing the configuration in ZUNE for Canada would do the trick after unbranding it?

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] SuperSlacker:
Where did you see this? Do you have the link?

I'm in Canada with a Focus on Rogers. I unbranded it using the samsungregistry tool, rebooted, and plugged it into Zune. Still getting the same "Your phone is up to date ... (7008)" message. :(

I haven't seen anybody reporting a Samsung device with NoDo. I'm thinking MSFT hasn't flipped the switch for Samsung yet, even for the so-called "open market" phones.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] craig.martell:
I'm willing to give it a try. How do you change the ZUNE configuration to Canada?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] wheelerk:
I tried to launch the SamsungRegistry tool after the February update and I get the following: "SamsungRegistry has been revoked by Microsoft. Please uninstall it." Has anyone seen this?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pjodm:
Hello

I am trying to find the link. At the time I saw his quote, I even wrote a private message to this person to ask him to tell me how to unbrand the Focus, but he never answer me. I just went to my private messages to see if I could see the name of the person I send the message to, but I do not seem to have access to send messages.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pjodm:
I havent try it yet.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] cronojay:
I unlocked, unbranded it without any issue and have 7008. All my sideloaded app are still functioning.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Ificator:
I see the same thing now, but as long as it's still unbranded I don't particularly care :)

EDIT: A little search suggests this is a side effect of the unlock being reverted on the device. If you want to change the registry again you'll need to go through the Chevron unlock process again before running the app.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pat_pad:
Update Unsuccessful

I was not able to update to the 7008 version. I always got a time out error after step 7.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] thealanshow:
I did too... You need to go on and remove all sideloaded apps, thats the only way it worked for me... However, just watch out, you might get into a constant cycle of re-booting the phone, and the phone may even looked bricked... Not for the faint of heart...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ft55555:
I just de-branded my phone in the hopes of getting NoDo today, to no avail. However, the de-branding seemed to have worked since I did update to 7008.

I just read that T-Mobile USA might be starting to update HD7s starting tomorrow. Did I just hose myself since my device no longer looks like a T-Mobile USA phone?

How would I go about re-branding my device?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] brythomas:
Nevermind, I'm dumb.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] willis-usry:
The Registry Editor

When I try to access that Registry, I get a message that ....System is restricted. How do I get access to that key.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ibby:
Ok, tested this using the SamsungRegistry XAP in the OP and it upgraded flawlessly to pre-NoDo. Once that was done, I checked for the NoDo update and it seemed to have not been deployed for T-Mobile's Omnia 7 as of yet (even though mine is carrier unlocked :/).

So I thought perhaps the registry string had been reset as a few people reported. I Chevron unlocked the phone again, re-installed the SamsungRegistry XAP and checked the MobileOperator string: it was blank.

So no, the update does not reset the string. Maybe only hard resets do which means there is an original backup of all the registry data sitting on the phone. Which seems like a weird choice to me.

Ah well, I guess there's no other way but to wait and see when NoDo will come through barring the Hungary IP hack which I'm unwilling to try at this point. There've been rumours that Microsoft will lock those that do from any future updates. :(
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sid8810:
Does my samsung Omnia 7 need to be unlocked to do this registry hack?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ibby:
If you mean Carrier Unlock - as in, you've had it unlocked to use on other networks, or you bought it sim-free - no, I don't think you do. All the phones have the MobileOperator string in the registry which is checked by Zune as it looks for updates.

If you mean Chevron unlocked, yes, you need to have your phone 'jailbroken' using Chevron WP7 in order to sideload a XAP file as explained in the OP.

Hope that helps!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] SysRq:
Can someone please tell me the code for Three in Sweden, I forgot to read it out before unbranding..