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[G2 and Desire Z General] BlawkHawk:
This is just truly terrible. One of the worst parts is almost all of my friends are on AT&T, and I try and tell them that T Mobile is better than AT&T. So now they're gonna be complete d***s about this.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheRomMistress:
Adhere to the rules

People People, I know this is a huge disappointed to all, but please follow the forum rules and mind your manners. I will be monitoring this thread until it dies. Any foul language and flaming will be dealt with right away. Thank you for your cooperation.
[G2 and Desire Z General] blackknightavalon:
This also means that we may not be able to install non-market apps for the stock users.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rsxtypes72:
From what I just heard the deal is done! This blows. AT&T will ruin everyone's service that is on T-Mo just the way they did when they took over Cingular. Before AT&T took over Cingular it was good service afterwards it sucked ass. Let's hope this doesn't happen to us. Question is will they use T-Mo's HSPA+ 4G network or will they use the fledgling 4G service they have now.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/
[G2 and Desire Z General] JackD3ath:
Im going to Sprint the first time I see ATT logo on my bill, ETF be damned!

They are reportedly going to use both networking technologies...
[G2 and Desire Z General] ratchetrizzo:
It will get approved.

They approve ANYTHING if the payoff is right, and AT&T sure has the money to grease some palms to make this go with out a hitch.

On the FB announcement comment thread, 99% of the people are super PO'd. I think you're going to see Tmobile churn way up and their customer base drop drastically over the next year.

AT&T probably only did this for the towers and probably cares less about the existing customer base.

First thoughts are, based upon how AT&T handled the cingular merger (one big cluster F), expect our existing plans to only be around for ONE or TWO years (or your contract expiration date) at max, then you will have a choice, "upgrade" to a AT&T plan or go somewhere else. I also expect ETF's to be waived once the merger is done in a year so we can leave then too.

It's a sad day for us all unless hell freezes over and this does not get approved.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ostinq:
I will be jumping ship. I'll pay the ETF and sell my G2 to cover the cost. I'll have to wait and see what the new sprint phones will be.
[G2 and Desire Z General] david279:
...first a super moon now this......I just jumped over too.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jamesfrom818:
I have Even More Plus with FlexPay for my G2/N1. Contracts will probably be safe for at least the length of the contract but us pre-paid folks are probably going to get messed up.
[G2 and Desire Z General] J-Hop2o6:
u will be waived once the deal is finalized and approved.. so don't waste your $200.
[G2 and Desire Z General] david279:
Whats your reasoning? Just curious..
[G2 and Desire Z General] tvdang7:
what does this mean for our hspa+ radios? are we SOL?
[G2 and Desire Z General] J-Hop2o6:
?? You can still use your G2 even after the aquisition.. but they will waiver your ETF once the deal is finalized by the US Gov't.

Dunno yet.. if AT&T keeps our towers and spectrum intact,, it'll be fine.. even better if they implement our 3G radio in their phones from here on out.. so it should look like this in the future: 3G= 850/1700/1900/2100(euro).
[G2 and Desire Z General] marquis.hagetaka:
mixed emotions about this situation, i want it to work, should be a powerhouse of sim cards, but i'm :( too i don't wanna deal with the "old blue" maybe something will happen. close to 100 mill customers. thinking into this give me a headache:rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z General] david279:
comments from t-Mo.

http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/more-information-att-acquires-tmobile

also the t-mobile name would be removed. Only at&t.
[G2 and Desire Z General] apollostees:
Very sad to hear this. I have a personal grudge with At&t, (them haters laid me off:mad:)

and I don't like their business approach.

Further I think that having less choice in the wireless arena is very bad for service/price.

Also with issues like net neutrality still big less choice means telco's can do whatever they want.
[G2 and Desire Z General] heybobitsme:
I told my wife about this and she had a fit! I got her to leave AT&T for T-Mobile because she saw my service was better. This was 5 years ago and I've been with them for 7. When it comes time, we'll probably go to Verizon. Better Android phones.

Also, I'd look for the next Nexus phone to be made for Verizon. Google's been having a bit of a love affair with them for a while now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] m0bstar:
Grandfather Law, they will not change your current plan or pricing. And during a buyout like this, you have the option to cancel your plan for no cost.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ohshootrawr:
You have any carriers to suggest if I decide to cancel my plan? I've been with tmobile since before flip phones, so I haven't gotten to play around with different networks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TrueYears:
LMAO! HAHHAHA

sooo this faq is only good for 12 months then later one once ATT fully takes over it will change

Will my rate plan change because of the acquisition?

We will honor all contracted plans that are entered into before the change of ownership.

righttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nospin:
No use panicking yet people, enjoy your year with tmobile and when we are all offered to upgrade to at&t politely decline and leave. No use paying an etf, jumping on a new 2 year plan and feeling stupid about being stuck with old hardware for two more years.

They aren't just going to start ripping us off, I'm sure we'll have the ability to get out when the time comes. Just wish the US had some more gsm carriers....
[G2 and Desire Z General] _atlien_:
No offense to you personally at all but this is the kind of thinking that has this country in the effin dumps. No one understands 100 level economics. Less competition means inferior service at higher prices.

But the only thing people think about about is calling more people on the same network. This merger is bad, bad news.

I never understand why, on the things that matter, economics and politics, Americans don't care if there is no choice (fake competition between 2 or 3 parties doesn't count) but if it's a basketball, baseball or football league we get dozens of choices. The thinking is backwards. If it can be called thinking. Sad day.

This may also mean the end of low cost carrier Simple Mobile.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pr.TOSHIBA:
new phone

This sucks for me because I am currently using a G2 with AT&T. I'm doing this so that I don't have pay for a data plan, because AT&T doesn't have the G2 IMEIs. When they merge/get bought out AT&T will have the G2 IMEIs...NOOOOO. I guess I'll have to get a new phone then because its cheaper for me in the long run.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Snap Jackel Pop:
Spoke with Tmobile reps, and basically they'll be closing out tmobile plans and pricing as contracts end. They'll also be discontinuing any non-contract plans, so if you bought a g2 for full price and got the no-contract option you'll be forced to sign a contract in a year if it goes through.

I'm probably going to try and sell my g2 now and switch over to Verizon.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
I'll probably go with Verizon too when my contact ends. At least LTE is SIM based and Verizon does have quite a few Android models. I hope they get a few more HTC models though especially a QWERTY keyboard. This sucks:mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] tackleberry:
I just dropped whorizon in november. I refused att because it sucks balls. Now tmo is done. I really don't wanna go back to verizon. I guess ill have to see how much these tools screw up before I jump ship

Sent from prison
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddgarcia05:
What didn't you like about them?
[G2 and Desire Z General] dontbes:
I'm good if I get to keep my unlimted data.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
The only bad things I can see is price (great network and besides tmobile... you get what you pay for), cdma (lte is sim based... so not a problem anymore), and over branding/locked bootloaders (HTC seems to be easier to unlock compared with motorola models plus I prefer HTC anyways). Things you can get around... or deal with. Hell, tmobile was getting pretty pricey too and the data caps... not too big of a loss now that I think about it. Sprint will go under soon too so they aren't a great alternative, it seems. At&t has a patchy/ drop your call network so I'm not excited about them. Maybe it has gotten better but they just rub me the wrong way.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Groboto:
FML I bought it FULL price because i'm a kid and know I won't buy a new phone for a WILE. I did this so I only had to pay $10.00 a month. but now I won't be able to afford this. If this is true count me in on jumping ship, I can convince my family.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jayavarman:
I blame T-Mobile Girl.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xalucardx:
I blame the shirtless guy lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nissan350:
All of a sudden Sprint is looking heavenly.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wesmagyar:
I was with cingular back in the day and someone stole my phone and they refused to honor my insurance due to some technicality and i ended up owing them almost a thousand bucks which i refused to pay as a matter of principal, not to mention i couldn't afford it :D i switched to VoiceStream/T-mobile after that been with them ever since.

I wonder what this means for me.... they gonna bill me for that money? hmmm

-Wes-
[G2 and Desire Z General] xalucardx:
My question is, since T-mobile is like "the mother of android" ,could this have an inpact in android handsets as well? ATT doesnt care much for android devices IMO
[G2 and Desire Z General] wesmagyar:
Considering they are in Apples back pocket... probably.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WilliamStern:
I was so pissed this morning about the news, that I drove my ass to Verizon, and jumped ship. I'm the proud owner of the new HTC Thunderbolt! If you really want to know...? The speeds are much, much greater than TMOs!

Now, what should I do with my 2 week old Galaxy S 4G, Galaxy Tab, and HTC HD7?
[G2 and Desire Z General] xalucardx:
I got the same question , i owe the 1.2k due to a "trick" a rep made me with a i**** and CS refused to fix so i ETC 4 lines + billing month and went to T-mobile and been happy ever since... until today GODDAMIT!!!

*edit*

BTW the 14 return day of my tab ended friday fuuuuuuu.......
[G2 and Desire Z General] UnNewGuy:
If they try to change you plan on you just leave. They broke the deal after all.

http://www.cellphones.ca/news/post002721/
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
CDMA sucks. WiMax sucks.

I went down that road. Not a good experience personally.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gillgrylls:
att will screw us with icrap

Att will be trying to sell us icraps. When u need to go to the store good luck....

It will be full of apple fan boys and girls asking idiotic questions about icrap and icrap pad. So when u need to get into the store u will be waiting in line with apple fanatics just to speak with a sales Rep.

Don't count on android phones with att. They want smartphone users to buy icrap. As long as boost mobile isn't run by att ill prolly just go there. Or sprint.. I want nothing to do with a provider that sells apple crap because that's all they want you to buy and the fanboys will be raiding stores looking for the latest product 3rd Gen, 5th Gen...etc.

FAIL!!!

THANX for the great service TMO....
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
Chill out. You're going a bit overboard... If T-Mo originally had the opportunity to carry the iPhone, they would have too. Don't blame AT&T for getting behind their biggest revenue generator they've ever seen.

It remains to be seen how AT&T will choose to keep T-Mobile separate and to what extent they will influence pricing/plans and phone/tablet selection.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wesmagyar:
Well if you go based off their previous "aquisitions" they will phase out all of t-mobile stuff within 6 months of the deal being final switch everything to at&t and force everyone onto their pricing plans. They are like the borg in this respect.

Its what they did with cingular.

Its the reforming of ma bell.

The image from t2 where the t1000 gets frozen and shattered then reforms tiny pieces at a time merging into each other then into the whole unit again keeps running through my mind :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] jamesfrom818:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCp-1hgfxI
[G2 and Desire Z General] Garrett 77:
Contracts?

So, if they don't honor our tmobile contracts and try to force us into their pricing plans, are we able to break contract at no cost?

Sorry for being stupid, but how will this help my coverage? When tmo coverage is poor, my phone uses att roaming anyway. I'm on edge but that shouldn't change anyway since my Nexus doesn't have the radio for att 3g, right?

My Nexus One is tearing up, btw.
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
If they change your pricing, you will be able to leave your contract with no ETF. The idea of the contract is that you're held to that price and conditions. T-Mobile's Q&A page states that you will be held to your current contracted price, but I wouldn't put it past AT&T to pull some **** and change it on you somehow.

It will help your coverage because when the acquisition is complete, the new phones for AT&T-Mobile (c wat i did ther) will have frequencies for 3G/4G for both of the companies' spectrums, and you will have physically more towers.

Current phones won't get any better coverage, because they're either enabled with AT&T frequencies or T-Mobile frequencies, and won't get 3G from the opposite carrier's towers either way.

Pretty much nailed it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Flanagan0318:
Bogus

I call EPIC antitrust fail on this one....:mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] djkozdefantastico:
WTF MAN!

i really hope this dont go thru. i have had att in the past, when they bought cingular. hated every day of it.

time to check sprints prices
[G2 and Desire Z General] qipengart:
Ain't no love in the heart of the city...

Sherman Antitrust Act doesn't apply anymore. Look at this documentary http://www.sonyclassics.com/insidejob/ for living proof.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tekrhino:
AT&T feels threatened by TMO so, they buy them out!.

This deal WREAKS of ANTI-TRUST!

Lets hope the govt feels the same way.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kiltedthrower:
I see a lot of AT&T hate.

I was on Cingular before they were taken over by AT&T. 2 or 3 years later (however long it was) I'm still on $30 unlimited data a month. I have NEVER had an issue with AT&T's customer service. I've been on Sprint and Verizon before and had to jump through hurdles to get phones replaced or to be taken care of. With AT&T, no problems at all.

I don't see the huge increase in cost everyone is talking about. I compared family lines with data plans and unlimited texting between all the carriers...all pretty much within $20 or so of each other.

While others may have had issues, I can count the number of dropped calls I've had on one hand in the years I've been with AT&T.

And some of you guys are still griping about the iPhone and the fanboys. ALL brands will have fanboys...blackberry, Android, iPhone. I've only known one salesman to really push an iPhone to the point of irritation. Most of the stores I've been to, the sales people are carrying Blackberrys. And, yes, it does suck that AT&T locks their phones down. But most of us are rooting and carrying custom ROMs. And for the general masses that aren't...well, they really don't know and don't care.

Aside from that, now with the popularity of Android booming more than ever, AT&T is bringing out a lot more Android phones because that is where the money is at.

It's weird the difference in experiences that each person has with a phone company. Most of the people I know are on AT&T and have had a great experience. Then I come on here and there's numerous ranting about how bad AT&T is.
[G2 and Desire Z General] cx1:
sucks......sucks......sucks

When Cingular was bought by AT&T the quality of both service and customer care went down so far so fast it was unbelievable.

Blows chunks...Guess I'll be looking for a CDMA phone in the near future.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lightningtrip:
thats was funny, never see it before..
[G2 and Desire Z General] rochford77:
nope

i don't think this will go through. For example, when Verizon purchased alltel (smaller than tmo) uncle Sam made them clear assets and sell customers before the purchase could be complete, 2yrs later im still selling alltel in my market and waiing for the merger to finish before i can sell verizon. the buyer of all the verizon customers being pushed out of the way to make room for the alltel customers ? att. This wont go through unless att sells some of their customers to sprint (maybe verizon but they are so huge already) making this an equal 3 horse race imop.
[G2 and Desire Z General] BootloopedMillennials:
Heres what Im trying to weigh in on, on whether to switch service now or later:

If I do it right now, I pay the $200 ETF (right amount?) and can turn around and sell the G2 for $375 (with Otterbox case). Not to mention Sprint gives you a $125 service credit when you switch carriers to them, good until April 16th. Sprint just announced the Nexus S 4G and they might have dual core phones in before April 16th (hopefully).

If I wait until this deal is done (12 months at least). I pay zero ETF but will the G2 be worth $175 (the difference between ETF now and what I could get for the G2 now). The G2 doesn't have compatible bands with ATT's 3G & 4G network, so that would lower the value of the G2.

Decisions, Decisions

I was truly enjoying my G2 and love this phone and to think now Im planning on selling it.:( Also what does this mean for other G series phones, ex G3?
[G2 and Desire Z General] convolution:
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it but...

they should be called T&A now =D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Blackhawk163:
Huh, I chose tmo because the plans simply gave me more for a cheaper price unlike At&T. I know that I will be grandfathered in, but I might have a handset restriction, and I'll be damned if I stay with my HD7 for another year, plus I'm month to month too.

/Sigh
[G2 and Desire Z General] mdayjr:
you wont have crappy service. they are buying tmobile which means they will acquire their towers. if anything we will have better data and extended local calling. I've already been through this with vzw buying alltel. However, FYI, merge will be a year from now. Just talked to customer service.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Bzerk1:
hmm.. tmobile makes ads to steal customers from at&t and then they buy'em right back huh.... i guess at&t just really has to worry about verizon.
[G2 and Desire Z General] shaddix2:
ATT blows. But so does tmo! Come to big red muahahahahaha!!!!!

Also I have an Android on ATT. Their data reliability sucks. My friend on T-Mobile always has better service. And if you think this will give tmo better rural coverage think again, ATT sucks on that front as well. VZW is the only real option.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jwgizmo:
Kinda sad...NOT!

Reading over some of these comments makes me wonder.... Here is my thoughts. We live in the FREE world right. If this takeover happens, we have options. Go in

MASS

to another carrier to get FREE stuff - This is bargaining power people, opt out of $ETF$ because of the switch, get new phone(s) -I have 3 lines on my account. Bargain, bargain, bargain. All you have to do is talk. They want numbers, and will do almost anything to keep or get our business. These phones don't cost them as much as these carriers lead us to believe.

I love T-Mo service, both my HD2's which are running Android 2.2.1 not Win Mo 6.5 and the BB too, but if the acquisition goes through... So what - I'm FREEEEEEE. Somebody will gladly take me, at a price because I run a hard bargain. How many customers will T-Mo send to another carrier? That is where we win. It's all about the NUMBERS

Cell phones come and go, carriers need more end users to boost sales in the big market. It's the difference between buying a car in July or late December.

If it's just another thought that never happens, good. I'm happy. If the merger or takeover goes through, so be it. I'm happy

So remember YOU, I, WE WILL WIN:D

Sprint, Verizon, AT&T- who wants to be #1 in the wireless world? Your gonna pay for me to play... And I don't play nice in a new sand box! :eek:
[G2 and Desire Z General] lorijuan1024:
i just switched to verizon from tmobile on saturday lol thats funny but verizon is not expensive me and my wife got the thunderbolt and we have unlimited data and texting we pay like $137 without taxes w/ $146, $2 cheaper than tmobile
[G2 and Desire Z General] heybobitsme:
Well... http://kan.gd/2ii
[G2 and Desire Z General] heybobitsme:
We only win in the short term, if and when the acquisition goes through, when we don't need to worry about the ETF. In the long term, everybody's screwed.
[G2 and Desire Z General] alpinestars:
For the AT&T fans...

For anyone that like AT&T for some reason.... There is a reason why there are massive groups of people who are trying to get AT&T investigated by the better Business Bureau because of how shady that damn company is. They would have been bankrupt years ago if they didn't luck out with the sole provider for the iPhone. And now that the agreement is up and the iPhone is making its way to other carriers, AT&T had to try and find a new way to get helpless people by the balls and rape them of there money. Call AT&T's customer service about anything....if you still think there a good company after your little "conversation" then Ill admit I don't know what the hell I'm talking about...
[G2 and Desire Z General] DECIM8:
I must say I am disappointed that T-mobile is being gobbled up. They are(were?) a great company to do business with especially when compared to others in their arena. I wish they could have maintained better. I am indifferent about the impending merger though. When the time comes (12 months?) I will make the best deal with the best carrier I can at that time. Same thing I have always done with my other services.

I have been with T-mobile for 3 years and they have treated us far better than other carriers have in the past. Their customer service is exemplary in my experience. I have also had experience with Verizon, AT&T and Sprint through past dealings and currently with cellphones I have needed for business use. I am not looking forward to choosing between them when the time comes only because I doubt they can match the $127 monthly total for my 3 lines all with data, text and enough minutes that we have never been charged extra. We'll see who gets my business in a year as it will be up for grabs. The other carriers aren't stupid and will hopefully be waiting for T-mobile's end with good deals in hand (including AT&T?).

Customer service and cellular service seems to be getting confused a lot in this thread. :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z General] XsceneXhippieX:
Do you think hd2 owners who have at&t will get to use tmobiles wavelength and finally get more than edge network from this happening??

For reference if new to this subject at&t and tmobile both have an EDGE network on the same wavelength so on an unlocked tmobile hd2 one can use the slow 2g internet connection of at&t, but the 3g networks run off of different bands so an at&t # can't connect to any 3g whatsoever, with at&t's purchase of tmobile wouldn't at&t have to utilize tmobiles 3g wavelength in order to still provide 3g and 3.5g to everyone with tmobile phones that aren't compatible with at&t's current network? If so then I'm personally benefitting from this and finally getting a decent mobile data speed on my tmobile phone with my at&t network :)