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[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Bummer...wish tmob would get off our backs :mad: Think they could find better use of their time like getting better towers, phones, not sell out to at&t, etc.! :eek:
[Nexus One General] dan1431:
Somehow I doubt that the wireless providers are going to back away from charging for tethering like the Cable Companies did when routers started to get popular.

Dan
[Nexus One General] adamhlj:
I was looking at my bills on tmobile's website today, and in the bill summary, it always says I have 0 on my data usage, yet actually looking at my data usage tab, it will say the actual amount. AND in my recent use tab, it also says 0/unlimited data. I am on unlimited data and COULD renew my contract, but why would I if i had to sign up with a tiered data plan. I have also been with T-mobile since they were Voicestream in 2001. In fact, my 10 year anniversary with them will be probably in a month or so. I am curious if i could get away with tethering ALL of my interwebs usage. I have posted pictures to show all this. Does anyone else have this on their account pages?
[Nexus One General] Babydollll:
My usage in the tabs and in recent usage show the amount of data actually used. (since 3/20/11 I've used 410 MB) However, it also shows that I have two lines (true) but each with their own 1000 minute plan (I'm on a family plan with a 1000 shared min) so, it could just be a temporary screw up,

Sent from either my N1, Nexus S or telepathically using two tin cans and some string (I still can't decide I really love string)
[Nexus One General] rydr1:
Just something I noticed yesterday when I received the first message about tethering.

When I used to tether on froyo I would not get all the ads when I would surf the net on my computer; they always seemed broken and would say "page cannot be found" or similar. I now have 2.3.3 CM7 and I tethered yesterday and I started receiving all the ads that used to show up as broken. right after that is when I received the T-mobile message.

I used to tether all the time and never hit over 5gb before this.
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
I'm pretty happy the OP got busted for abusing the network :p

*ducks*
[Nexus One General] gtrplr71:
I agree with this guy
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
Is it using the same APN as on CM6?

Does tethering actually fail now, or does T-Mo only *think* they're blocking you?
[Nexus One General] alostpacket:
Personally I've tethered for about a 3 days out of the last year (during a blackout) and wouldn't even come close to the cap, but I'd so much rather have the peace of mind that "unlimited" doesn't mean "carrier looking over my shoulder." All of us are probably using an ever-increasing amount of bandwidth. If they don't open it up and build out, I think customer turnover will increase and contract subsidies will decrease. It wont happen overnight, but squezing the customers like this only puts pressure on their own revenue streams. The tipping point though will only come if the anti-contract sentiment and customer churn causes enough to counter the increased revenue from charging extra for data "tiers."

The more I watch the industry though the more I recommend people buy off-contract (not that there are many choices left if this deal goes through).

Anyways, it's like the American dream. I may never be rich, but I like to imagine it could happen someday -- I may not use all that much bandwidth, but I want the option to be there for me.
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
You probably would be downloading less than 10mb an hour, playing online with star craft II.
[Nexus One General] jspidey:
Is there anything specifically listed in our AT&T contracts that says that we cannot tether? I must admit, it's been a while since I've actually read "the fine print". I understand that they offer "services" to tether, but my understanding is so that they can enable the service on your device. Since we have N1s that they don't have their grubby little hands on, I feel that they should not be able to tell us what to do with the data plan that I purchased as long as I don't exceed the bullcrap-laced "unlimited" 5GB cap.

As for how they know we are tethering, the only method that I'd believe would work would be actually sniffing the traffic and looking for the browser specific information. I'm not sure if that's the user agent or not, but if it were you can use the Dolphin browser to the user agent to desktop mode.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
So what the hell does this have to do with AT&T?
[Nexus One General] resinous:
at&t =/= tmobile

it has to do with people who have the N1 in general since it's on both carriers :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Both carriers are sending users the same notice that they'll be upgraded if they continue tethering? I've heard nothing of the sort about T-Mobile doing this.

And no, T-Mobile is not part of AT&T yet, and probably won't be for a year.
[Nexus One General] danger-rat:
The very first post on this thread is T-Mo specific.

No mention of upgrading, but detecting and blocking...
[Nexus One General] resinous:
I just did a quick search and found that this is happening to people on both, tmobile and at&t.
[Nexus One General] adamhlj:
I don't know what my APN was, but it was all stock. I never had any issues with tethering. However, I just got a G2 and had to change my data plan to android. Before with my N1, it was listed as "smartphone" data plan because I had an HD2. Now it is showing up at data used. I have it rooted and am using xborader's stock gingerbread rom.

Since I only have about 11 days left on my billing cycle, I am testing out my usage to see how much I can use before they text me.
[Samsung Mesmerize] tref95:
My phone will not turn on. I was doing a factory reset, but it seemed to freeze, so I did a battery pull. Now my phone is either stuck on the samsung logo, or an empty batter symbol with a white circle. Please help.
[Samsung Mesmerize] Mesmerizeuser:
Only thing I can think of is to try to get into download mode (remove the battery, plug the phone into a computer, and press the volume down button). If you can get to download mode, you should be able to flash a stock rom via Odin (instructions for this can be found in multiple threads on this forum.

Sent from my voodoo froyo Mesmerize
[Samsung Mesmerize] dcow90:
Yes, do that.
[Samsung Mesmerize] tweakymattman:
download odin and the stock 2.1 build. then place your phone in download mode. flash the rom the way the instructions tell you too. then walk into your local uscell and complain til they give you a new mesmerize.:D that should solve all your probs
[Samsung Mesmerize] filo65:
Got mine to reboot

i got my samsung mesmerize to turn on by pressing in the startup button on the right AND the volume control button on the left (up, don't know if that matters) at the same time for a few seconds (at least 5) and eventually the SAMSUNG logo appeared and it is now working fine.

I hope this helps anyone who has the same issue!
[Samsung Mesmerize] wizayne:
lately EVERY time i reboot my phone (running ics build 2, 3 and 4, stock kernel) it gets stuck on samsung logo.. somehow my phone will only boot into the frigging cm7 recovery which as im sure youre all aware is rather useless to fix any problems im having in ics and leaves me unable to flash, backup, or restore anything. it's quite frustrating and i have no idea how to fix it but by going back to bml, re-partitioning, then odin ei20 modem, cm7 fixed recovery, then flash back to ics but doin this every reboot it getting very tedious..

ive read about recovery loops, but the fix doesnt work for me as i cant mount the ICS /system partition in cm7 recovery...and ive been all over trying a zillion things to get it to work and havent pulled dmesg or logcat but if someone thinks it would be useful ..i wish i knew why EVERYTHING is great, then BANG, reboot and it's FML city.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allskin:
Just install the cyanogen 7 rom. everything is working but, even if I go in cyanogen settings and check the animation on/off setting, the Elctron Beam animation On and Off dont work for me.

Can anyone help with this?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VanPersie021:
Where have you downloaded it? Please
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bsutton:
Go into regular android display settings and turn all animations on.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] abhinitagrawal:
hi friends i use motorola milestone with official italian froyo ROM. plz can anyone tell me how can i modify it with cayogen or froyomod addons....
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] sileshnair:
You should have posted this in General Forum, not here.

Anyway, what do you mean by modify? If you are referring to the notification bar widgets and like, its no easy task my friend. Involves a lot of work.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] justanordinarydude:
y u don't use one of the custom mods, i use CM6 myself and it is imo the most stable rom out there,

if u just want to tweak ur stock rom i would recommend staying at 2.1. and tweak it a little with an OR, replacing and removing apps, overclocking etc.

afaik it does a little better wit multitasking, i would use it myself if it wouldn't miss so much features from CM...

hehehe a CM5 for milestone would be funny lol

if u are just looking for a guide

-factory reset

-flash 2.2.1 GOT release

-run OpenRecovery

-install CM update

-wipe cache and dalvik

or read this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=983516
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] winettou:
I dont agree stock Froyo works fine so if u are looking for longer battery life just update u MM to this ROM.

I think little steps are better for beginner just get Open Recovery 3.3 root u phon maybe turn up u CPU speed
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blitzpwnage:
Hi, Im running CM7 nightly 29, and I have Savaged Zen Kernel 3/16 installed. Whenever I start a download I can see it start but then it just disappear.

Also, my settings wont open up...Im going to wipe dalvik cache.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayharper08:
Have you tried to move all the apps on your sd card over to the phone and deleting the android_secure folder yet?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frammer:
I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of returning and possibly waiting for the Galaxy S II. I'm hesitant to with all the devs that are going to be on this phone. I just won't be able to afford the GS2 off contract and I'm not sure I'm completely happy with the thunderbolt. :confused:
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] papi92:
No I will not. Samsung doesn't update and there source code is all messed up. They had it so the phone looked for music in system as well as SD card meaning you got to listen to ringtones. I forget which phone had the problem if you built a Rom using source code
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frammer:
That sucks

That's rough. I upgraded from the OG droid and haven't had the chance to see many company's build quality or software updates besides what I've read. I know the original Galaxy was a hit therefore I assumed the community was happy with it. I picked up the T-bolt because I know a decent amount of people with HTC phones and I like the way their their construction. Unless we see another stock Motorola device it doesn't look like I will be able stay with them. :( I really loved my original Droid!
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craighwk:
Not a chance.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ApplCobbler:
Just pray to allah that you never need to get somewhere with GPS navigation
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaddix2:
Samsung can eat my ass
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lorijuan1024:
is it coming out to verizon??
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RafficaX:
^^ LOL ^^ Thats funny and sad bc its true!
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droopie28:
i had to + you for this, I had a cativate, and got rid of it because of:

battery problems

****ty build

gps problems

and the lack of updates that should have happened in the 3 weeks I had it

on another note, if you get rid of the thunderbolt, you wont be grandfathered into such a great 4g data package that isn't capped, just saying
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WilliamStern:
I thought that phone was going to AT&T-MOBILE, not Verizon? Am I wrong? Did I miss something in the last few weeks?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaddix2:
Same here. I was dying waiting on the tbolt. Captivate was the bane of my existence for several months.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] youneek:
Never again. Samsung is terrible compared to HTC for following through with updates. The GPS is still crappy on all their Android phones and not a single one has been reliable. They also provide horrible tech support. I'm bitter after 3 different Samsung Android phones...
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frammer:
3 Variants

I found this a couple days ago which caused me to post this thead.

pocketnow.com/android/did-samsung-just-trademark-the-us-galaxy-s-ii-variants

I don't understand why it would be necessary for us to worry about carrier updates since their was such a huge dev community over on the GS. :confused:
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quattr0:
Not sure why all teh hates toward Samsung as I have teh Galaxy Tab and love it (still have it). it runs Froyo and developers already started Gingerbread and Honeycomb.

I've found the GPS work flawlessly through a few quick tips (changing the mode and switch to automatic servers instead of fixed GPS server).

And yes teh battery is much better to our beloved TB but then again the tab is not on LTE so that makes sense. I would definitely consider the S II. Since my wife w AT&T now (2 more months to go), I could easily get the S II and give her TB if need to :) Or better yet, phone swap (wish it's wife swap tho lol)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sirjacksinurbox:
Was there a huge community for the GS? I never heard much about it being hacked or anything. Was there ever a cyanogen release for it?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frammer:
CM7

neowin.net/forum/topic/980330-cm7-for-galaxy-s-devices/

Yup
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sirjacksinurbox:
I see now. Thanks for the info. I do know that the galaxy phones does have a killer graphics processor. Wonder how much better of a chip they will have in the S2...
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottricketts:
I came from the Nexus One and it pretty much sold me on HTC's build quality. And until the TBolt, HTC was relatively hacker friendly, but you saw that took all of three days to fix for the TBolt.

They are good at releasing their source code, which is all I need to get on CM, and ultimately that's all I was looking for. I wanted a good build, LTE, good network, and CM. We should have all of that inside of the next 60 days.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jiggaman508:
Coming from the fascinate I fan tell you Samsung sucks. Gps was a fail, it got marginally better after software updates but is still poor at best. Cellular antenna also sucks, while right next to two coworkers with a d1 and an dinc, my fascinate would get one or two less bars wherever we were. WiFi antenna also sucks, while standing 15 feet away from my router I would have maybe one bar on a good day, while my wife's dinc would have full bars. Software was absolutely horrible, I had to install "voodoo lagfix" to convert their filesystem from the ancient and horribly slow rfs to a much more common and much quicker ext4, which is what most manufacturers use. Their whole source code is an absolute abortion. Even with the amazing developers on the fascinate my phone never performed as good as the hardware should have. Processor, gpu, and screen were phenomenal and you would think that the phone would reflect that, but it didn't. If you want something pretty to look at, buy Samsung...if you want functionality, buy HTC. Sorry for the rant....
[Thunderbolt General] eakrish:
Now, I know I read about a one click solution that was not allowed to come out. My question is, when are we going to have a one click unroot? I have no problems using commands to root my device, I am simply asking the question in a thread form. This way "The Finders of Root" can see there is client base for it. Thanks for any answers or comments.:D

EDIT: This is meant to be a One click ROOTthread. Sorry for the confusion
[Thunderbolt General] jcase:
I would like to see it, and hoped it was coming, but there is some debate on it atm.

Some of us feel that users should learn to use adb, and how to flash RUUs, to make it easier for them to recover from a goof in the future.
[Thunderbolt General] ajftl:
Just pm him...it works.
[Thunderbolt General] eakrish:
I hear you, is the method introducted earlier safe to use? What do you mean it works? Have you used it?
[Thunderbolt General] rusty2663:
I agree that peeps should learn about it so they don't flood the forum with "help I pricked my phone" posts...but at the same time I think there should be an easy alternative for those of us who can't seem to get the hang of using adb. For some reason I can never get adb to work for me...I am however very comfortable changing roms and doing things in hboot. I just came from the incredible and was really looking forward to getting rid of all the crap on my phone that I will never use but I'm not confident enough in adb to obtain root that way...so yes there is a want for an idiot proof way to root the thunderbolt. Just my $.02.
[Thunderbolt General] oneders65:
I would like to see the one-click root released only because it is the safest way for a noon like me to root. When you spend $200.00+ on a phone you want to get the maximum out of the phone without bricking it. Why not let the user decide what he wants to use?
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
What happens when you flash a bad .zip and you HAVE to use adb to get your phone back to a working state?
[Thunderbolt General] vinnyjr:
It is much safer having someone without allot of experience rooting their new device by way of say a one click method then entering wrong commands and surely bricking their device. Just my opinion. I have rooted several android phones and the Thunderbolt is allot more involved, much more involved then any rookie should fool with.

So bring on the one click method if it available. I'm sure many are willing to pay for a great app like that. I sure would.
[Thunderbolt General] Bibble13:
adb push panicandcry.txt /xdaforums.com/ ??

<---First post, just learned adb today but too nervous to try rooting, hoping one click method comes out soon or else I'll have to man up
[Thunderbolt General] rusty2663:
A long as you are backing up before you flash then you should never have that problem... Honestly we could go back and forth all day about this but all we are trying to get across is that there is a valid market for a one click root out there
[Thunderbolt General] ApplCobbler:
That's like saying that we need to learn how to operate a manual transmission when we own an automatic transmission. If it comes up, it comes up, and people can use that guide or any other stickied guide in all the other dev forums to ge themselves out of a jam.

I can tell you that I personally have no intention of ever flashing a custom ROM. All I want to do is root the phone and delete bitbop, blockbuster, etc. Why should I be subjected to arbitrary disciplinary action under the guise of 'for your own good'.

I mean, I donate money to pretty much all the devs who's products I use because I respect their work. So, needlessly stifling efforts to make things easier for the end user, and also someone who may end up buying your lunch, is unproductive and hurtful to the community at large.
[Thunderbolt General] arasky:
I really hope you're not withholding it because you feel people should learn how to do it the right way. I was in the irc chat for 10 hours both friday and saturday trying to get help but since everyone and their brother was in there i didn't get any help. I understand its tough taking time helping someone out and getting nothing in return. if devs (like you) wanted to get paid for their work i'd happily, happily pay. I have the money, but i dont have the time/patience right now. Some people dont all day to learn how to do something just to get rid of the bloat on their phone. Unless there's another nonroot way, I've been waiting to get all my game data (i.e. angry birds)of my rooted og droid to transfer over to my new phone. Only way i've had luck in the past with titanium backup pro. if I could get help there at least it will be a start.
[Thunderbolt General] eakrish:
Wow, a whole thread of people wanting the one click unroot. This should tell people something.
[Thunderbolt General] Old MuckenMire:
boot into recovery and flash the backup you made :rolleyes:

or

boot into fastboot and run PASSIMG.zip/PG05IMG.zip...then re-root :rolleyes:

just so folks that are new here know: these guys saying you need adb are lying, or don't know what they're talking about. I rooted my Nexus One with one-click and NEVER needed adb either before or after rooting. I flashed hundreds of ROMs and even had a few screwups(lost recovery, bootloops, flashed bad .zips, etc..) and I always recovered NEVER needing adb.
[Thunderbolt General] eakrish:
I have never need adb post rooting before either. Unless you screw up the rooting process, otherwise you can just boot into recovery and restore to the nand backup you made.
[Thunderbolt General] eakrish:
I am going to see if I can convince Jaywan or someone to produce one.
[Thunderbolt General] dbzfanatic:
It seems like the whole easy-root thing opened a can of worms. I'd be more than happy to release my easy rooter for use by the general public if jcase says it's alright but I think the topic here is unrooting, at least that's what it says in the title. As someone said you should have no problem flashing a stock update file and it is a good idea to have an unroot method for warranty purposes.
[Thunderbolt General] eakrish:
its because i am retarded, I meant for the title to say root.
[Thunderbolt General] Old MuckenMire:
I would like to second this: at least let dbzfanatic be part of the process or something since he has a one click method ready AND IS WILLING TO HELP US BY RELEASING IT.

If it's about money, I for one would donate to both of you! I'm willing to donate to ALL the folks responsible for development!

or, at the VERY LEAST, tell us the real reason behind not releasing one click because this nonsense about learning adb does not fly at all for the reasons mentioned already in this thread by multiple users. You yourself just said you'd like to see a one click root released:
[Thunderbolt General] eakrish:
I obviously agree with the above post.
[Thunderbolt General] dbzfanatic:
In all fairness my program isn't one click, it's actually 3 plus a bit of interaction with the phone, but it's still considerably easier than typing out the commands manually.
[Thunderbolt General] adamd1169:
I'm glad I had to do it with adb. It forced me to learn adb. I had it too easy with my incredible.
[Thunderbolt General] eakrish:
one click or three, its still easier
[Thunderbolt General] Old MuckenMire:
And could you please explain why you had it too easy? Why did you need adb AFTER you rooted? Just because YOU shouldn't have been using one click doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't be, don't you think?

agreed. the biggest risk in screwing something up is the root process itself so the easier the better.
[Thunderbolt General] adamd1169:
I think the problem here is the word "should." None of us are entitled to anything. And challenge makes us stronger.
[Thunderbolt General] Old MuckenMire:
See that's why I asked because I knew you wouldn't make any sense but I just wanted to give you a shot anyway :D