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[General Topics] dani26286:
ok, as of now, im tired of all of this. I TRIED, i really did gave this more than it deserved. its obvious im not dealing with modern minded people, but those who have only the eye for an eye ways at their core. whatever... im done!!! if these people want to go on with old fashioned mentality of doing business, no matter who gets hurt in the process, well then...i tried.

as such, verizon, being that out of them all you seem to be closest to my heart and needs, and with vodafone at your base since tmo seems to not have the will to go on (which i dont blame, they have to deal with squared mentality, and they are just tired, ) i will gladly pay an extra 10 bucks to get upgraded to lte, on a month to month, cuz anyway i buy my devices at full price, so they can be TRULY MINE, IN WHICH CASE NO BODY HAS THE RIGHT TO DICTATE HOW I CHOOSE TO USE IT FOR MY NEEDS.

verizon, u about to make some good business, if u know how to sell your CS, AND SUPPORT OPEN SOURCE CODE PROJECT ALSO. these are facts. open source is takin over, and its only natural. SPRINT, be smart about it, dont close your self in something u wont be able to get out of. google is giving you a finger, take it, its the future. if u take the whole hand, be wise about it, about how u manage it. this is some pretty delicate stuff at hand, and if all of you big shots dont educate your self as to whats to come, and what is, and what trends, you will be the ones to suffer most.

VZW, HERE I COME!!!

at the end of the day the consumer speaks, and you, as a provider that wants their money (BUSINESS), need to listen, if u want revenue, other wise its communism under another blanket. so there you go, its not enough that politics kills people for all the wrong reasons, instead of providing the steps for a better, proper future, but the way we communicate has to be heavily affected to by these greedy people. SAD!
[General Topics] dani26286:
maybe i'll give up after this one...:D

via T-Mobile forums:

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happywith339

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Re: AT&T buying T-Mobile [ New ]

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03-28-2011 11:58 AM

I could care less about management's inflated pay/perks/stock options or shareholder returns. I sold all stock holdings (including retirement accounts) in early 2000 before the dot com bust and I'm not looking back. I treat the stock market the way these CEO's look at things, that is, a 1-12 month investment. The S&P 500 is down from early 2000, if you've been watching.

Investments aside, I'm very pro consumer and I think we should have multiple 4+ nationwide carriers competing on the same network technology. That would really drivce down rates for the consumer, and of course, lower rates of return in this industry. Don't cry for T-Mobile USA though, they make a billion+ in profit each year, even witih little suscriber growth. Many industries (grocery, consumer staples, utilities) would love such profits and returns on investment. DT wants to sell, so let Sprint or someone else buy T-Mobile USA so that consumers don't get the shaft of monopoly or duopoly pricing.

The only way I would be in favor of this proposed GSM merger is if the government treated the monopoly like a utility (electric, water) and set the rates at affordable levels. Of course, AT&T and DT wouldn't like that (lower sales price, lower stockholder returns, lower CEO compensation). Barring that, we need real competition and one monopoly nationwide GSM carrier or two national carriers (on different tech) controlling 80% of the market doesn't cut it for the consumer.

We have been very happy with T-Mobile service over the last 2.5 years. They are innovative (UMA), frugal (lower rates), have nice USA based customer service, and the network works great for us.

Anyone who is opposed to this buyout, please contact your Senators, Representatives, the FCC, and the DOJ. They have the power to prevent this from happening via Anti-Trust Laws on the books."

finally somebody making sense, from all the right angles!

I REALLY WOULD OF LOVED IT IF MY HTC GLACIER COULD WORK ON VZW. I WOULDNT GIVE IT A SECOND THOUGHT TO IT!
[General Topics] dani26286:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mob...elekom-FAQs/m-p/801057/highlight/false#M28040

NEW TAKES ON THE MATTER.

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20048020-85.html

new developments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9BJMiSVSZg&feature=player_embedded#at=40

video
[General Topics] Phateless:
Thanks for the video, very interesting stuff! I'm going to be doing a persuasive speech for school in a few weeks and I'd like my topic to be that the Justice Department should block this deal. Lots of great links and material in this thread.
[General Topics] dani26286:
Ow, thats great. Than this should be great material for somthing like that.
[General Topics] BobbyHill:
Has anyone stopped to think that our T-Mobile phones might be working longer if this deal goes through than if it doesn't?

It's going to take quite a while for AT&T to start the rebanding process and convert towers if the sale goes through in a year or whatever.

If it doesn't? Make no mistake about it -- DT wants out of the US carrier market and they'll get out one way or another. Blocking of the sale by the DOJ or FCC is one thing, but they can't order DT to keep the company going. Most likely they'll pull the plug, and start selling off piecemeal. THEN T-Mobile customers are really screwed.
[General Topics] carlsbad0331:
I think they have a lot better chance of stopping it than any of us signing petitions.
[General Topics] tackleberry:
Sounds like sprint wants to be the new tmobile. Sprint reads what people are commenting about, saying they will go to sprint. They are using this as an ad tool to prep tmo customers to switch to sprint in the future and then welcome us with open arms then screw us over somehow else.

Either that or sprint is jealous because no one wants such a crappy carrier

sent from the rooty tooty fresh and fruity cm7 nighly powered G2
[General Topics] J-Hop2o6:
If thats the case for DT, then it should be someone else (Google?) other than AT&T and the other Big 4, and keep T-Mobile the way it is now and just run it.. no changes (maybe a re-brand), and just improve it.
[General Topics] dani26286:
That would be the next logical step, in order for innovation to continue under affordable meens, for the current economical status.

All this mess is like a game between chess and monopoly, in an environment where the rules are unsure, cuz of the obvious differences in how both get to be played. I wonder why is it that always the consumerthat have to be the most affected in situations like this one?
[General Topics] DPMAce:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...g-down-the-motorola-atrix-and-htc-inspire.ars

Article about how AT&T slows down it's upload speed purposely. I imagine they'll make T-Mobile do the same thing once they take over.
[General Topics] TheMan42:
Don't count on Sprint doing anything, if AT&T wants it to go through, it'll go
[General Topics] Febby:
I don't see how this relates to AT&T not buying T-Mobile... AT&T, a much richer company than Sprint.. can end up buying out the government... ofc the corporations control the government anyways lol
[General Topics] itsnoahyo:
the header of this thread is such a tease. its like seeing a sign advertising a topless car wash and you pull around back and its all shirtless firemen or something. i was hoping this was something concrete. ive been the verizon route and seen too many people get cornholed by sprint, so im just treading water til i see how its gonna go.
[General Topics] Hot_Hands:
A commenter on phandroid said it best:

I know the fad since the EVO came out has been OMFGSPRINTISTEHBESTEVAR but they're still the same scum they've always been. I had an EVO for 6 months. Roaming indoors in a major city is inexcusable. Being lied to every month on when 4G is coming to my area is inexcusable. This is simply Sprint fighting it's accelerated irrelevance.
[General Topics] luis86dr:
Money talks. Bs walks.

[G2/HTC Vision]
[General Topics] dani26286:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/attt-mobile-what-does-it-mean-smartphone-os-landscape/2011-03-28

Speculation.
[General Topics] carlsbad0331:
Of course Sprints position is selfish. They arent trying to help us!!! They are going to throw a TON of money at this in an attempt to stop the merger/sale.

My point was that their money will go a lot further to stop the sale than our *****ing and complaining about how we dont like AT&T.

This is the same type of action that is taken when someone like Microsoft tries to acquire another company, or Apple, or Intel. The competition ALWAYS attacks the legality of the sale/merger.

There are laws to protect the consumer which come in to play. THAT is what Sprints attorneys will be playing with.
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Aha my girlfriend said the same thing
[General Topics] Batryoperatedbob:
Regardless or their motives, I'm inclined to agree with Sprint. Its ridiculous how much control Verizon and ATT would have if this went through. T-Mo is the last decent, AFFORDABLE carrier. I don't want to be forced to Nextel or Boost because I can't afford ATTs most recent shinanigans.
[General Topics] hkbladelawhk:
http://consumerist.com/2011/03/worst-company-in-america-round-one-att-vs-verizon.html

Just for a laugh :-) ATT Fail
[General Topics] Phateless:
Google buying T-mobile is really what I would love to happen! I'm begging the universe in my own way for that to transpire.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know why T-mobile and Google have such close ties when it comes to Android? I think it's awesome and I'm really shocked that it didn't bring more success to T-mobile. :(
[General Topics] hkbladelawhk:
Google created Android :-) T-Mobile saw the innovation and went for it.

Which was and is one of their selling points. << IMO
[General Topics] KCRic:
Well since I live in Overland Park, KS just 2 miles from Sprints ridiculously gigantic complex, I really don't have an issue going to Sprint. Reception here is almost perfect and data speeds are phenomenal. The only issue I have is that I like using a SIM card and GSM technology by nature gives me much better battery life.

That's the thing about this merger. It's not that they'll be the largest phone carrier - or the 'only' one. It's that they will be the ONLY GSM carrier in America (not counting *local* small companies). So you have only 1 choice if say, you are a business and want an international phone or you want better battery life or you switch phones often and don't want to have to go through an activation process each time or you want to take a phone from one carrier to another...

This merger is complete BS and everyone knows it. There is no 'positive' to it, no silver lining or light at the end of the tunnel. Please somebody inform me how having only one carrier is conducive to a healthy economy or good for the consumer. No one can and that's what's wrong with this merger. Don't spill off some crap about 'better coverage, better speeds' because we all know once they own all, that will go out the window since they'll be the only choice for GSM and if you want it/need it, you will just have to bend over and take it - it's the only choice. GSM vs. CDMA is not competition - it's like saying a Ferrari vs. Prius is competition because they're both cars.
[General Topics] dhkr234:
The frightening thing is that the US is heading to a wireless communications problem that Canada *WAS* in not too long ago, and is trying real hard to claw its way out of. Competition is essential, and having the entire industry dominated by 2 or 3 enormous SOBs is not competition. We used to have Rogers and Bell -- which were/are essentially ATT and Verizon, and we paid multiple times what Americans paid for similar service. Since then though, the government has made it possible for some new carriers to start up here, prices have fallen dramatically, service quality has increased dramatically, and all the while, the US has been moving towards the nightmare that we HAD.

Its a sad day. I used to be envious of the options that were available in the US for cell phones.... unlimited data and HUGE minute-pools at reasonable prices. We've only had those options for a little over a year. Now you're down to limited data and minuscule minute-pools.... and they're threatening to make it even worse. Sucks. I'll keep my $40/month unlimited absolutely everything with no long distance charges anywhere in north america plan... ;)
[General Topics] shabbypenguin:
Sprint is already revving up the engines, switch to them right now til april 16th and there is no mail in rebates, grab an android phone and get 125 dollar credit on your bill PER line. they know full well what they are doing is grabbing some spotlights for a min for all the att/tmobile customers that may be unhappily reading this news articles. either way i play on crawling back to then mid april in time for the nexus s 4g, signal wise i cant tell the difference between sprint and tmobile..
[General Topics] dani26286:
Agreed. Tmo was always the first one to try new things, only natural, it had three bigger ones it was trying to compete with. DON'T U WORRY TMO, U DID PUT A MARK ON INNOVATION FOR THE NORTH AMERICAN CULTURE!

to bad money talks the way they do!!!
[General Topics] TheMan42:
Sprint is revving its engine into the garbage, they've posted terrible fiscal reports and are bleeding money. It's only a matter of time before they're bankrupt.
[General Topics] synpax:
I want this merger to go through.

And I am pretty sure it will go through. ATT wouldn't have announced it if they weren't reasonably assured.

Sprint's lobbyists are just trying to justify their retainers here and they may get some minor concession.
[General Topics] mrsbelpit:
I don't want my current phone to work longer. I want the TMo version of the Galaxy S 2, and I want it to stay on TMobile. At this point, I won't be buying a phone until all this crap shakes out. And that sucks.
[General Topics] tackleberry:
THey have been bleeding money for years. How they have none gone down already isbeyond me

sent from the rooty tooty fresh and fruity cm7 nighly powered G2
[General Topics] dani26286:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mob...ekom-FAQs/td-p/785009/highlight/true/page/149

new takes on the matter. dont be influenced with all the wrong reasons. think for your self. express your self properly. you have the right to state your opinion and file for answers, when something affects your status as a civilian, at whatever level it may be implied.

sorry people, i just cant give up. this is a path towards ignorance. I AM AGAINST THAT. THATS WHY PEOPLE DIE FOR NO REASON.
[General Topics] J-Hop2o6:
Tmo (& AT&T) are making phones now that have BOTH Tmo and AT&T 3G bands (Tmo G2x).. so if this deal goes thru, we have phones that'll still work over 3G/HSPA.
[General Topics] dani26286:
what about my mytouch 4g? what about the $500 i paid for it? its still a state of the art device, and it WILL be eliminated. i dont have a contract. how do i get an upgrade?....
[General Topics] J-Hop2o6:
Thats a negative.. I said they're doing this NOW from here on out.. so any phones previous to the announcment will be paperweights, unless u don't mind being on 2G/GSM/GPRS/EDGE.

myTouch 4G & G2 = 1700;2100 (WCDMA) = TmoUS & Euro 3G/HSPA bands

G2x = 850;1700;1900;2100 (WCDMA) = AT&T, TmoUS, and Euro 3G/HSPA bands
[General Topics] dani26286:
so, in other words, my phone is saved?

at least that!!!!
[General Topics] J-Hop2o6:
...if u don't mind only having access to 2G/EDGE & Wifi, but no 3G/HSPA+ what so ever.. but if this deal does go thru, u don't have to worry about AT&T shutting off Tmo's HSPA+ over AWS for LTE until ATLEAST a year after the deal.. so u might have a new phone (or new carrier) before your phone turns into a paperweight.
[General Topics] dani26286:
For f**k's sake!!!!

See, this is the kind of thing that gets people mad, when things aren't dealt with properly.

its ok. i got my solution. ill look into what CLEAR has to offer, and use them for data, and whoever with legit rates for voice, or ill go GOOGLE VOICE. THAT'S IT!
[General Topics] J-Hop2o6:
it happens.. Alltel (CDMA) customers had to get new phones to be compatible with the AT&T network.. Alltel was divested between Verizon and AT&T.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alltel
[General Topics] dani26286:
i understand.

thank you very much for the information.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
It would be so easy for AT&T to transmit data on the frequencies T-Mobile uses. AT&T could transmit on their current frequencies and adopt the T-Mobile frequencies. This would prevent people from losing use of their phones over data and would ensure AT&T greater revenue. People that have to abandon their beloved current phones by losing data usage would not be inclined to sign up with AT&T.
[General Topics] dani26286:
new developments:

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-v...1-news-bites-nyt-edit-board-slams-atat-merger

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20048407-266.html

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2382770,00.asp

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/465926-ACT_Calls_For_PEG_Commitments_In_AT_T_T_Mobile.php

http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=206110&f_src=lightreading_gnews

http://nyconvergence.com/2011/03/att-to-improve-nyc-coverage.html

http://www.valueexpectations.com/blogs/attt-mobile-protests-are-born-naive-misunderstanding03292011
[General Topics] dani26286:
it started already. lately my phone is more on 3G than H+. so this is what i paid for, huh? i might of well stayed with mt3g at this point!
[General Topics] ryandaneri:
Realisticly speaking this will not happen basicly this deal is saying: make a huge employee hiring comany go bankrupt and make people have higher rate plans or leave sprint alone,let tmobile be tmobile,and have the employed at all carrier locations and all carriers do thier own thing and grow stronger?

In our economy there is no way the u s government would approve of this. In my mind you got yourself a no deal.
[General Topics] dani26286:
I am trying to use this context as an excuse to what you where saying twoards the end...but..........
[General Topics] sino8r:
The darn canucks are bragging again about their better-priced cell plans and universial heathcare:p

Two big things the US is last in... sigh!
[General Topics] synaesthetic:
Are there any regional options in the Bay Area other than MetroPCS? I refuse to use a provider that's still stuck on 1xRTT.

Would be nice if there were any GSM ones, also...
[General Topics] TheMan42:
whoops double post
[General Topics] TheMan42:
To be honest, this isn't the governments call in the end - it's Sprint's lack of insight into scenarios that allowed the situation to get this far and land them in their current position. If anything, I'd be scared about people wanting the government to "step in" for Sprint because it'll somehow end of in a bailout for them in which gets our country farther into trouble.
[General Topics] dani26286:
I don't know, but i love your signature :))))))))))))))))))))))))))).

It's like you read my mind!!!!
[General Topics] dani26286:
Check this out!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du2nTpGNN8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FajcPyisyzY&feature=relmfu
[General Topics] hkbladelawhk:
ATT vs Verizon vs Current T-Mobile Plan vs Sprint

Thought ya'll might find this relevant in the case any of you are thinking of running away from ATT should all this go through.

I did a price comparison of ATT, Sprint, Tmobile (my current unlimited family plan) and Verizon. By far, Verizon is the most expensive, ATT is next, then Sprint, Then T-Mobile. Kind of ironic. The prices follow suit with their place in the cell race.

Hell, in my comparison, Verizon is $100 more per month....

I used:

Family Talk Unlimited

Family Text Unlimited

Three lines

Internet on all lines (for ATT, I had one 4gb and two 2gb)

Handset protection

Tmo: 258

Sprint: 331

ATT: 339

Verizon: 361

Just some random info.
[General Topics] dani26286:
that way it gets to be 3, and sprint evens the market, huh? and who says data wont go sky high on value afterwards, with them 3 managing IT?

more importantly, i wanna ask the same questions as the fine educated lady in the above video link i posted:

1) WHY IS IT at&t THAT YOU DECIDED TO BUY THE MOST SERVICE/FRIENDLY COMPETITOR ON THE MARKET WITH $30+B, INSTEAD OF INVESTING THAT MONEY IN YOUR OWN SPECTRUM, SINCE TMOBILE DOESNT COVER CERTAIN RURAL, AND NOT ONLY, AREAS?

2) WHAT MADE DT TO ABANDON ITS AMERICAN TMOBILE INVESTMENT?

it kinda came to the point were we need an answer to those questions.
[General Topics] greendust1:
yes you are right and am agree with you but can you please tel me what is future of mobile phones India
[General Topics] dani26286:
you will have to pardon me, but i dont really understand your question.

i do have a hint to what you want to ask, and if so, im sorry, i dont live in india, i live in the usa, at the moment, being witness to this, for lack of a better word, freakin mess.
[General Topics] ohshootrawr:
Okay sorry for this, but is this a fersure thing now? The merger actually passed? I (stupidly) haven't been keeping tabs on this thread. Last I heard, it needed to pass congress to determine whether or not at&t is becoming a monopoly or something like that.
[General Topics] synaesthetic:
Nah, it hasn't passed, won't for at least a year, but DT is definitely going to do something with T-Mobile USA. If AT&T's offer gets shot down for whatever reason, they're going to seek a different buyer, or dismantle the operation outright.

So no matter what, things won't be the same.
[General Topics] kellumj:
AT&T still cant keep up with Verizon now that verizon has the iphone and you can search the internet while talking. Who cares if they merge with anyone.
[General Topics] ohshootrawr:
Well its kind of about price, future development and customer service. At&t is an outright buisness class cell carrier (I.e. more expensive data plans that aren't even unlimited). They don't even care about the customer anymore. I also believe (my personal opinion) that right now, tmobile has the best image for android. They're moving in the right direction, pulling out some fine phones and working dilligently to make 4g a nationwide priority. And though they don't have the most informed customer service, at least they try to keep you happy. At&t is in it for the money, and it makes people hate them. I also heard that this merger is directly related to us in the g2 forum because the radio towers at&t plans on building will no longer support our firmware. Something like that xD
[General Topics] DPMAce:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/03/att-crippled-4g/

Crippled Phones Reveal AT&T Isn’t Ready for 4G

Really now. I'm starting to hate At&t more and more.
[General Topics] Product F(RED):
So I saw many pages back people saying "SIMPLE MOBILE WOOT!". I hate to break it to you but Simple Mobile runs on T-Mobile's network. Also they cut off your service if you go over 1GB (fine print). It's not really "unlimited data".

And no, the merger hasn't passed. AT&T and T-Mobile agreed to the terms, but the FCC still has to approve it, and they probably won't (which is a good thing) given public backlash and negative news coverage. Can you imagine a cellphone industry where AT&T and Verizon make all the decisions?
[General Topics] dhkr234:
You won't find me bragging about universal healthcare. Healthcare here is a DISASTER! If you need it to live, you'll die waiting for it. Almost guaranteed. The amounts paid out by the health insurance provider (government) are almost a factor of 10 greater than the fair market value for the procedures. It is a total waste of money and doesn't work, and there is no option to skip the line by paying cash.

In general, if you live in Canada and need a medical procedure to save your life, best bet is to go to the US. For real.
[General Topics] dani26286:
I dont even want to imagine.it would be a nightmare for our wallets, to say the least!
[General Topics] Product F(RED):
It would be worse than how it is in Canada. Anyone who frequently goes to Canada knows what I'm talking about.