yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
I have also seen an article that mentioned AT&T would use 1700 for Lte - so it will happen as soon as they get the OK for the switchover.

It also indicated that TMo data customers would have to swap their out phones or live on edge.

We are stuck with these devices for now, but I would be surprised if anyone goes after any new HSPA+ device releases from them (unless they are relying on TMo Q&A - unbelievable BS over there).

We will hopefully have 12-15 months to continue to use these - then they become a paperweight - no eBay value at all (sold my nexus one after I got this for over $300).
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
This would be one of the loop holes to get out of a the contract. When we signed with T-Mobile you signed for 3G (HSPA) in said area, with said phone. IF they cannot provide that service they breached the contract. unless they offer a phone of equal value, and honor the said contract signed.

and i go to an EDGE lifestyle on my phone i will call everyday and demand 3G service on my phone. they'll get so sick of me they'll gladly cough up a phone or leave of contract option.

(ah the joys of a having married a paralegal)
[myTouch 4G General] berrywr:
This is a process that will takes quite some time to go through; assuming it goes through at all which right now is at best 50-50. If it does go through we're talking about at least one year and maybe two years and this isn't the Bush administration running the FCC and while the Obama administration has allowed two big mergers to take place with significant rules attached. AT&T is no different than T-Mobile in regards to plans whether voice, messaging and/or data; there will be no changes for the foreseeable future. My family will benefit from the merger with AT&T's extensive 850Mhz coverage in rural areas where T-Mobile is not allowed to roam on this network and where we live. But the gloom and doom reaction is premature. AT&T becoming a GSM monopoly won't be easy going for Ma Bell. It does end speculation that T-Mobile and Sprint are merging; however what's next Verizon Wireless gobbling Sprint?
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
The main issue with the AT&T takeover will be their rates - which are expected to go even higher after TMo is eliminated. So if you are paying $20-30 for "unlimited" data (with a cap), it would be (I believe) $60 with AT&T currently - plus possibly more to tether (not sure if that is included in the $60).

But these AT&T rates are expected to increase to pay for the deal (their price multiple is considered significantly more then TMo itself is worth). Without TMo as a lower cost competitor, that will not be hard for them to do.

Business analysts are discussing all of this already, so this is not just speculation. On the other hand, this is exactly why the deal should be rejected - it will stifle competition and increase prices for customers in the whole industry.

If this proves out, I may just get a basic AT&T device for calls and the most limited data plan available for emails on the go, etc. Then continue to use this for everything else at home and anywhere else WiFi is available, as I am already using WiFi most of the time due to the cap.

I am not going to fork over $60-80/month the them for what I now get for $20.
[myTouch 4G General] Nicgraner:
I agree 100%

sent from my icy cold glacier!
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
And look what TMo is saying in its website Q&A:

"If the acquisition closes, will I still be able to use my T-Mobile USA phone?

Yes. Your T-Mobile USA device will operate the same in the future as it does today."

AT&T has already stated that everyone will need a new phone. Other answers state that it is a "great" time to upgrade a TMo device and extend the contract.
[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
Ah damn, just got 4g where i live
[myTouch 4G General] BLacKEndROid:
My evaluation of the ATT/Tmobile merger and whats going to happen to us TMOUS customers

Everything will stay the same for the next 12-24months we will not see changes until after government agencies give the ok then it will take approx. 12 months for the merger to complete... then we're screwed! TMOUS will be resolved plans will change, data caps implemented, prices will skyrocket, crappy customer service, by law att only has to honor contracts that are still current when att takes over so once your contract expires you'll either convert or leave attmobile. Oh i almost forgot those of you like i that are on the even more plus plan you know the cheaper non contract plans yup there is no room for us at att either and those are my cons

My pros are increased signal strength, increased coverage area oh and more phones to choose from since att will be the majority leader in the industry att will get more phones.

so in my personal opinion every wireless handset user is screwed no matter the wireless company you choose from. for now I'm very happy with my glacier rooted and rom'd and hopefully a Pyramid, a G2x or even a G-Slate. I have absolutely no complaints about my signal strength or coverage area i travel the us and when i have needed to make a call i could every time my phone is already faster than a iphone and att period. so the only thing i could hope for is LTE and even with TMO's financial deficit i think that LTE would eventually come to TMOUS.

to the petitioners we probably wont change anything by signing but i see where doing something is better than doing nothing
[myTouch 4G General] :
Alright, I skipped all the other posts after the first couple of posts cause someone said something about at&t's data plans...my question is, isn't the reason why they have limits on data now cause their network gets bogged down by their users?, and the reason they're doing this is to free up the network and expand, correct?
[myTouch 4G General] brzgw:
Hey guys there is a group We say NO to AT&T - T Mobile merger

join the group and sign petition, name is Stop T-Mobile from being bought by AT&T

If we get 3000 people to sign, it will be sent to FCC.

I have posted this on G2 section also. I just saw this and wanted to share. I don't know if it's legit. I am not organizing it. Just thought maybe we could at least do something :)

We are 1/3 of the way.
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
But - they will be adding TMo's customers who are also limited - no improvement immediately (unless most of TMo's head over to Sprint IF they are still alive).

Reasons (not necessarily all-inclusive):

1. This will in the long run help their network - they will be able to use TMo's 1700 frequency to roll out Lte without having to add so many new towers (that is why the stocks of tower build-out companies have tanked).

2. They eliminate a lower priced competitor - easier to raise prices to existing AT&T customers also (this has been specifically mentioned by the business news media).

3, Related to this - make Sprint even more uncompetitive after they and Verizon control over 80% of the market. Sprint will be financially challenged trying to keep up with Verizon and AT&T's Lte rollout.

3. Add enough customers to become #1 in the industry.

4. Increase operating income significantly by laying off tens of thousands of overlapping employees.

BLacKEndROid - it will not take another 12 months after approval to complete the merger - these generally take place

immediately

after the approval.

It will take some time after the close before they shut off the TMo 3G/HSPA+ frequencies. There are technical issues and this may have to be approved (but would be a rubber stamp after the merger).

When this happens, all TMo customers using data will have a legal out, but your phones will no longer work on data (may still use mine some on WiFi in home office as at present time).

It is almost certain AT&T will offer incentives to stay. Maybe even a free 4G and/or Lte device - but at the cost of a new, higher-priced data plan commitment.
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
Quoting myself to get this update out front.

Below is their current Q&A - the above one has disappeared. It is CYA now - apparently the legal folks have gotten involved (I underlined the CYA part):

Q: Will I have to upgrade my T-Mobile 3G / 4G device after the AT&T acquisition closes?

T-Mobile has no plans to alter our 3G / 4G network in any way that would make your device obsolete.

The deal is expected to close in approximately 12 months. After that, decisions about the network

will be AT&T’s to make

. That said, the president and CEO of AT&T Mobility was quoted in the Associated Press saying “there’s nothing for [customers] to worry about… [network changes affecting devices] will be done over time… ”

Chances are you’ll be on to your next device long before AT&T makes any changes to the network. Now is a great time to get one of our latest smartphones.

Trust us they are saying - by a smartphone now (I can almost see the checkered sport coat of the author of this - lol)!

Note - I am surprised to see that so far, TMo smartphone prices on eBay have not tanked yet (i looked at this and nexuus one and S). So if you upgraded at a really low price ($49 from retention) you could make come $ on it and have an out after the merger and the network is clanged. Without knowing the timetable (and with assurance it will happen), this is not an easy choice. if you already have a suitable smartphone (for now) - it is easier.

I have a smartphone that works on both TMo and AT&T data frequencies, but it is slower then s.... compare to my overclocked MT4G (like watching grass grow sometimes). It has little value because of what it is (anyone guess?), but will hang on to it for possible future use as backup phone and tethering.

I am not going to dump my MT4G right now on eBay - will ride it out for now and see how it goes...
[myTouch 4G General] :
AT&T States: T-Mobile will get to keep its current pricing structure - http://bit.ly/h8HXD3 #android

I call bs from at&t don't trust anything they say.
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
legally they have to honor the contract that you are currently practicing. so it's not BS. Once your contract expires they have every right to pull you into a ATT branded contract. Will they? i don't know.
[myTouch 4G General] :
I going to buy G2X off contract and grandfather myself permanently in till I see a phone I want most likely.
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
That's kinda of the way i feel as it stands now. I was off contract for 3 years prior this past Black Friday where i did the BOGO on the G2 and the MyTouchHD. I'm seriously kicking my self in the butt. But hey, i've done it before i'll do it again. Just makes buy phones more a chore then thinking "2 years will blow by".
[myTouch 4G General] :
G2X is quadband ill keep it hopefully Cyanogen team will support it. At&t will not get me will there crap.
[myTouch 4G General] hlee3374:
I work in a tpr store, I am worried about job security. If/when the deal finalizes Im afraid they will close my store and I'll be out looking for work... seriously sucks.
[myTouch 4G General] xHKMx:
I for one is super pissed with the whole at&Tmobile merge fiasco. I know for a fact ill be one of the first folks who will be severely impacted as ATM I have EM+ 500T/uT/uW for special $49.99/month($59.99-$10 discount) due to legacy account policy. I could be wrong now as I honestly don't know much about AT&T Wireless plan/price so correct me and if anyone has any info or suggestions post it. But this is quick run down from their website as I see it.

Only contract or prepaid plans? WTF where are the no contract plans? I really don't like signing them top of that when its with the DeathStar. Not everyone falls under prepaid or contract BS. Since I have no option I only see Individual plan.

TMo vs ATT: Talk

TMo: $30=500min/month

ATT: $40=450min/month

WTF> I pay +$10 extra and have -50min/month? Thats #1.

TMo vs ATT: Text

TMo: $10=Unlimited Text/Month

A) ATT: $20=Unlimited Text/Month

B) ATT: $10=1000 Text/Month

WTF> So as you can see its +$10 same service or for same price 1000texts compared to unlimited.

TMo vs ATT: Web

TMo: $20=Unlimited web/month

A) ATT: $25=2GB bandwidth/month

B) ATT: $15=200MB bandwidth/month

WTF> So thats dropped from TMo's 5GB softcap with EDGE and ATT gives me 2GB(TMo's 2/5th bandwidth) and add +$5 extra on top of that. The other plan for 200mb is out of the questions as I'm crack flasher and everything I do clean flash by formatting /system the update from google push is 40mb/per backup.

So tell me how is this BS any way remotely attractive to me? I am basically paying more and on top of that receiving even less. So lets wrap it up where I pay $49.99 with $10 discount from TMobile will now cost me with AT&T $75/month. Now thats +$25/month and forget the discount and its still +$15/month for less service. I feel like the DeathStar is personally coming for me once again... Reminds me the whole AT&T and BellSouth BS all over again we faced in FL back in few years ago.
[myTouch 4G General] epsix:
xHKMx, lol..... i knew you couldn't resist muahaha.
[myTouch 4G General] xHKMx:
Well ya when its the DeathStar I can't stay away as if it goes though I am looking at +$300/year extra for AT&T price plan. This is kind of personal :P to the point where I leaked AT&T's tier quotes on bandwidth forum which we later converted to scam to get our internet price dropped by half :P been using it since 2006 lol I am sure the PR dependent hates me they patched the loophole but now they have to offer some of us service for half the price long as we don't amend any changes as still on BellSouth system.
[myTouch 4G General] epsix:
Exactly, i know how you feel right now. Less choices for us consumers this sux balls and now a days everything is going up. If I'm gonna pay that much I rather go with Verizon, just wish they have GSM
[myTouch 4G General] hammer4203:
Get verizon. My wife and I just got the thunderbolt and let me say that I could kick myself for not testing them a year ago! Tmo can stick the etf and last bill where the sun don't shine! This mytouch becomes an ipod, wifi, picture taking, movie playing toy next month!
[myTouch 4G General] epsix:
Lol.. Hehehe calm down we still have over a year left.
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
I had checked eBay prices on them and a few other TMo devices yesterday. I was surprised that prices were holding up - until today, when they appear to have taken a 25-30% hit since yesterday based on actual bids.
[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
Tmobile should hurry up and make 4g damn near everywhere l...the 42mbs one, and when att comes along with the spotty coverage, we all leave :)
[myTouch 4G General] Whoareyou:
I personally can't stand T-Mobile, so, woot!
[myTouch 4G General] katiepea:
Lol at that comment, then "Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA Premium App"
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
SING WITH ME NOW

OH HAPPY DAY..... OOOOOHHHHH HAPPY DAY

you know from sister act 2, sorry bad joke i know.

Read more: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2037430/fcc-official-ts-mobile-usa#ixzz1HcIMyYid

The Inquirer - Computer hardware news and downloads. Visit the download store today.

from the wording of this article it feels as if they are going to go through this with a fine tooth comb. It' looks like this has good shot of being shot down pretty quickly. Now we know that the FCC doesn't really care about public interest but it looks as if they are going put it under a microscope.
[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
Thats cuz u own a slide...it has like 100 mb that u can use.
[myTouch 4G General] jjdill:
Lmfao
[myTouch 4G General] devildog25pr:
+1 me too this sucks
[myTouch 4G General] mrmako777:
looks like there may be some hope http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/24/report-fcc-official-doubts-atandt-t-mobile-deal-will-sail-throu/
[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
Did u read the first comment? Haha thats a iphone at&t user right there
[myTouch 4G General] epsix:
Don't get your hopes up, of course the fcc will say that. Matter of fact they have to say that to cover theirs ass. With 3 billion dollars that att will have to pay to tmobile if the deals doesn't happen. Hell give me half of 3 billions ill see to it the deals will happened. Deep down its all about CORRUPTION
[myTouch 4G General] holiday5804:
Unfortunately there is no way they would have come out with this news if it wasn't a pretty sure deal. I can garuantee that ATT has been talking to regulators for months now getting things smoothed out. I am not pleased with this at all. T-mobile was helping to keep prices in check and with them gone ATT and verizon will have no pressure to keep prices low. Sprint is really not much of a competitor, but I may find myself also going back to them after years with Tmo.
[myTouch 4G General] mrmako777:
i feel bad for you t mo guys. im with cincinnati bell and pay $50 for 1000 anytime minutes and unlimited everything else. only reason why ive stayed with them, because their phone selection is terrible. i have to buy unlocked tmo phones just to have a decent one
[myTouch 4G General] Nicgraner:
I laughed my ass off at the comments lol
[myTouch 4G General] mrmako777:
lmao! too funny!
[myTouch 4G General] synaesthetic:
I'm adopting a wait-and-see attitude. As I have no contract, I can't be forced into anything, really. If the blue death star kills my Even More Plus plan and raises me up to normal AT&T costs and 2GB data cap, yeah I'll go talk to Sprint & Verizon and see what's up.

If they leave me alone, though, I dunno what I'll do. I might stay.
[myTouch 4G General] going_home:
Speculation is that AT&T will likely have to divest itself of 40 to 50 percent

of T-Mobile USA customer base and the likely winner of that will be Sprint.

So if you stay with TMO to see what the outcome is you might not

end up with AT&T, but with Sprint.

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/03/anal...to-divest-part-of-t-mobile-possibly-to-sprint

:o
[myTouch 4G General] :
It's like we're cattle
[myTouch 4G General] I Am Marino:
That's interesting

Sent from my Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
[myTouch 4G General] jessy787:
ATT lied in current merger in PR

I am from Puerto Rico ATT just purchase a mayor cell phone provider called cenntenial it took about a year for the FCC to aprove it Att promise no jobs would be loss that the would merge the clients from the purchase company with the same planes at the same rate wich was lower than att and it was compleatly false the whole merger finishes in dec of this year many jobs from the purchase company have been lost. and what att promise was not upheld i use to pay 130 dollars for a family share plan unlimited mint unlimited data unlimited text. Att want to give me the same plan but i can not chose a smart phone if i want the same price. with t mobile i am paying 141 dollars. No better signal in the contrary many of custumers after merging because the service is not compleatly merge with att they finf they have no service as soon as you change you are lock into a contract with no trial period many have found that after they use to have sevice with their old company with att they do not and have had to pay 300 termination contract and cannot go back to their previous company. One more thing FCC they only had to equal Voice not Data. I am only one person that has had a merger experience a a client from the purchase company but as a Resident this was a bad economical purchase for the cunsumer it has afected

if you read spanish this is what att promotes and it is not true google

centennialpr

i only ask that you Read educate your self about the negative effect it has had we are only a small territory of 100 miles X 50 the united states has 50 states complain do not let this happen i know some may joke about my post but it is serious imagine hundress of jobs Sales, custumer service, tecnical department lost. What would this do In Puerto Rico they promise no jobs would be loss and les than 6 month about 200 loss their jobs in area of sales and custumer service
[myTouch 4G General] i n f a m o u s:
Is there anything we can do to prevent the acquisition from happening? Or will at&t just bribe the FCC to approve the acquisition?
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
There is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent it. AT$T expects to lose many customers and is happy to cut their losses in exchange for the spectrum and GSM monopoly. Boycott ATT, boycott TMo, it won't stop the merger.
[myTouch 4G General] I Am Marino:
Hopefully there are some sane people at the FCC.

Sent from my Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
[myTouch 4G General] :
If we raise 39 billion dollars we can.
[myTouch 4G General] :
I got 5 on it. LMMFAO

Sent via T-Mobile myTouch 4G powered by Android v2.2.1 using Orange SENSE by Faux
[myTouch 4G General] dswaggz:
EVERYBODY SIGN UP WITH SIMPLE MOBILE 60$ UNLIMITED EVERYTHING NO CONTRACT

sent from mytouch 3g via Tapatalk
[myTouch 4G General] epsix:
Never heard of it ..available in NE?
[myTouch 4G General] dswaggz:
I don't kno I kno u can sign up online an pay your bill online

sent from mytouch 3g via Tapatalk
[myTouch 4G General] tw39515:
simple mobile runs off tmobiles network.
[myTouch 4G General] Elloco305:
exactly lmao. meaning Simple Mobile will also cease to exist!!

At$T-Mobile is the cause of 2012 (End of the world) :P
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
We ARE educated. While Puerto Rico is not a state, I believe they have some representation on D.C. If the above is a fair representation of what happened there, they need to land at the FCC and more importantly the Justice Department and make this clearly know to them.

Justice is led by a weak-kneed political hack (not unlike the previous administration also), but the staff who are handling this are more qualified and they would be in a better position to address this. On the other hand, like many staffs with oversight responsibilities - they may have gotten too close to the companies they are supposed to handle to have an objective viewpoint on this - hence all the rubber stamps on most acquisitions over the last few decades.
[myTouch 4G General] redndeyes:
Sign the petition hey it might help

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/
[myTouch 4G General] redndeyes:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/
[myTouch 4G General] mrmako777:
http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1842
[myTouch 4G General] Elloco305:
I'm obviously a t-mobile fanboy. But after reading this, Sprint is flucking awesome. Better than t-mobile who is willing to sell out each of its most loyal and fAithful customers through this merger.
[myTouch 4G General] mtornero:
I love how everyone is freaking out over this. It hasn't even been set in stone. This is one of the biggest lateral mergers ever. It is going to be hell trying to get it approved.
[myTouch 4G General] synaesthetic:
Because we're screwed either way. Either DT sells T-Mobile USA to AT&T, or they sell it to someone else, or they dissolve it and sell the pieces to everyone.

Things will not remain the way they are after this. Well, there's a small chance we might come out of this better off, but it's a very small chance.

As for me, I'm just going to enjoy my awesome phone and great, inexpensive service as long as I can. Things could look very different in a year.
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
Make no mistake about this - Sprint is worried that it will get swallowed up by the newly created competition. As such, who can blame them for opposing this buyout?

While I applaud them for taking a stand against Ma Bell, their data service is lacking. I live in NYC, and was only able to get 0.6 Mbps downstream in my neighborhood on my brother-in-law's 3G-enabled Sprint phone. With T-Mobile, on the other hand, I can easily get between 2 and 3 Mbps. Yes, 2-3 Mbps is certainly not great, but it's considerably better than the alternative.