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[G2 and Desire Z General] androidrookie:
Love the comparison between t1000 and at&t! lol. When I discovered google's (Samsung) Nexus S phone, the greatest selling point was by far the claim that the phone was CARRIER INDEPENDANT! I was disappointed to learn the phone was NOT equipped with the hardware that would make it work with both gsm and cdma (whatever the alphabet soup acronyms are) networks. Why not? No one could ever convince me that it is impossible. Furthermore, the Best Buy salesman explained to me that the Nexus S would not work with at&t's 3g (sorry, I never verified that information). But he did say it would work with T-Mobile. If I may quote Jethro Bodine, "I pertineer made a mistake Uncle Jed!"

I would love to see the day when all phones would be carrier independant. All phones sold in department stores and at&t, Sprint, and Verizon stores disappear altogether. Of course that is a dream. Microsoft and Apple could never let that happen because they KNOW a completely unrestricted Android system would destroy the both of them. (good, it would serve them right) Android was built on a Linux platform, which would be a superior operating system if application installation wasn't so awkward. Android fixed that problem.
[G2 and Desire Z General] astriaos:
I was with you until you said this. I'm in one of those hillbilly areas where ATT and Tmobile are largely the only service providers. While I have largely excellent Tmobile service, their data speeds suck. I have only edge/gprs service while all the att people are enjoying moderately decent 3g speeds. This is a tradeoff that I am willing to make for the sake of better customer service, cheaper plans, and better phones. However dear sir, please let me dissuade you: People do actually care in those hillbilly areas about their available data speed when away from, or unable to find an open wifi connection. Though it is largely not an issue for myself as I do not utilize mobile internet to any great degree (I cannot justify an unlimited plan at 25kbps), I know people whose only data hookup is via their telephones.

I do not want to give my money to ATT. I can't really justify the cost of a smartphone at $90/month in a compatible plan to tmobiles offerings. However one must consider those of us who are both poor but must utilize our telephones as our primary computing/internet interface device. I wouldn't want to be one of those people who must suffer through gprs/edge (12kbps/25kbps down respectively) being their only connection. For those of us who will be required to sign a new ATT contract at higher rates, the future looks bleak.

I highly suggest you read up on the privatization of the backbone of american internet.
[G2 and Desire Z General] beemrizkewl:
ok so i heard that at&t was going to take down the new hspa towers and run tmobile users on 2G only. does anyone know anything about that?

G2- CM7 RC2
[G2 and Desire Z General] shaddix2:
Tmo's 3g spectrum is being moved to att lte I think I read. So switch to verizon now!
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheMan42:
True, but the process will take quite some time. Its not going to happen the second networks merge. By the time LTE is deployed and the AWS spectrum is not longer used for HSPA+ it will have been long since you needed a new device.

People need to seriously stop listening to the garbage speculation on the internet and actually use a logical thought process.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wazmo:
Ugh.

What'll annoy me is if AT&T decides to cancel support for T-Mobile@Home and UMA. Given that T-Mobile isn't actively selling @Home and AT&T pulled the plug on their CallVantage VoIP service, I'm not hopeful.

Something else to consider-some markets may wind up having to actually divest customers from the combined entity so as to not run afoul of the DOJ (like Verizon had to do with some Alltell markets.) The question then becomes if that happens-who gets booted-TMO customers or AT&T customers? :confused:

And the AWS going to LTE means all of us who have a T-Mobile 3G handset will have EDGE service once that is complete. Thankfully that may take a while, but if in the process of getting a new phone means a new contract, I think I'll move to Verizon. :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] hkbladelawhk:
Only concern of mine is that ATT will take Unlimited data away from those of us who are contracted into it. And if we wait too long, Verizon won't have it anymore either.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jamesfrom818:
Its why I signed up with Verizon right away.

When LTE phones start coming out, you're all probably going to need a new SIM card and chances are you won't be getting that SIM card from AT&T without a new contract that doesn't include an unlimited data plan.
[G2 and Desire Z General] hkbladelawhk:
That's what I'm considering. But it also means breaking away from a Family Plan and not paying anything, then paying $200 to cancel my current contract, and then pay $250 for the Thunderbolt, and pay $150 per month for service.

And if I can't convince the Family to switch, I'm screwed. But the thought is definitely crossing my mind.
[G2 and Desire Z General] MLonon:
As others have stated I think it is best to wait until the buzzer before making some moves. Verizon is moving to tier data but they have not announced any deadlines. Also, AT&T may be forced to honor all T-Mo plans indefinitely. Anyway, I would say wait until you have to make a choice before you make one.
[G2 and Desire Z General] hkbladelawhk:
Yea. That would be the most logical for sure. Verizon announced tiered data this summer. (Hence the urgency) Way before the whole merger will go through. And yea, I would hope they would honor the plans (not just the contracts, IE everything stays the same until the customer changes it). Only thing is, ATT has a bad track record.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddgarcia05:
I went to verizon. The payment is a little more but I get unlimited data. And now that I'm on contract is get my state employees discount.
[G2 and Desire Z General] truetrust:
I'm happy to hear that CMCC is bought by AT&T...but....
[G2 and Desire Z General] humdrum2009:
Look out

As carriers get bigger we will all suffer.

I figure sprint will go after metro pcs and or cricket real soon.

Then Verizon will swallow U.S cellular whole.

I wonder how this will effect simple mobile customers as they use t mo towers?:eek:

Im on sprint and wonder how it will raise my rates because it will no doubt.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wesmagyar:
Doesn't metro pcs use sprints network already?
[G2 and Desire Z General] asainz320:
I keep reading the MetroPCS is going to be swallowed by some other company. I work for MetroPCS and I really believe that Metro is not going anywhere any time soon. They are coming up very strong with THEIR OWN TOWERS. The don't work under anybodys network, they created their own network from the ground up. They do use sprints old towers which they bought from them, but they have nothing to do with sprint. The reason I don't think Metro is going to be bought by any company is that metro is doing supper good, I have daily at least 3 or 4 customers moving from tmovile, sprint, at&t, and verizon to metro. And that's only me in one store. Now imagine that multiplied times the thousands of stores all over the united states. I highly doubt they're going anywhere.
[G2 and Desire Z General] MLonon:
Exactly, "summer" is not a firm date. I am sure they will put out some notice before it actually happens. THEN you should switch. Also, there is still the possibility of a mass exodus of iPhone users to Verizon when the iPhone 5 drops. There are many ways that this can go Pyrrhic for the DeathStar.

Think of it this way: if you switch now and the deal is rejected or some similar happy ending (hey, it really COULD happen!). You will be paying higher rates AND the upfront penalty, only to possibly switch back later.

If you wait until the last minute, you are more likely to know for certain that you made the right choice and you will probably get a better phone. The TBolt is the only V-LTE phone ATM, I am pretty sure they will have something dual core out before they close the gates on unlimited data.

Just 10 of sense.
[G2 and Desire Z General] hkbladelawhk:
I've never seen a company actively announce that they are pulling a plan. Though u do have a valid point. Still considering though. Hah. I'm just thinking farther ahead than one year. If not ATT. Then who? Sprint's deal apparently didn't work out. And Sprint is still a different network.
[G2 and Desire Z General] malickie:
Well I think a few things will happen. One AT&T will get approval all you have to do is look at all the politicians that they have in their pocket. After that happens AT&T will eventually force people to buy new phones and or totally change their plans regardless as to whether or not they change their phones or not just in general how I have noticed AT&T do business over the years. Anyway hopefully Simple Mobile will be able to stay afloat as I will flee from T-Mobile the second the merger happens.
[G2 and Desire Z General] malickie:
Meant to add something and forgot... For Cellphones I would truthfully wait until the end of the year to get Anything new considering Nvidia is planning on having their Kal-El CPU/Chipset in Cellphones by than....Quad Core CPU's on a freaking Phone that gets higher benches than a Core 2 Duo. Just look it up in Google for Nvidia Kal-El and you will see.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sancho1869:
I'm switchin to lan line if this keeps up!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Big Dawg 23:
I am fine with the merger. Thanks to T-Mo and their crappy service and customer service I moved to AT&T and got an iPhone.

No I am not an idiot or fan boy, which is generally thrown out there. I had my G2 fully rooted and sim unlocked. However, T-Mo is not reliable outside of major cities. I live 30 minutes south of the 13th largest market. AT&T has me fully covered in 3G and with great speeds too. T-MO was Edge or no Data.

Now after I ported and sold my G2 they tell me finally a tower is out. I personally call BS and say the AT&T roam agreement expired and now will be back. Since the G2 doesn't see the 3G AT&T bands it was time to move on. The lack of battery expansion on the HTC Inspire blew it and I am not going back to Motorola and its locked boot-loader work around. Yes the ATRIX will get full root if it hasn't already but the delay is a PITA.

I will be back on Android soon enough, especially if my boss approves a phone me to use separate from my iPhone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rye_droid:
t-moble-att

blah, two words.......simple mobile....... is t-mobile's sister company 60$ a mouth unlimited everything.........the buck stops there...........f, at&t and t-mobile for switch'en out :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] rye_droid:
simple mobile web site for all at&t haters

http: //www .mysimplemobile .com

sorry about the spaces anti spam crap:p
[G2 and Desire Z General] Blackhawk163:
Just bought a sim with them tonight. I must say that their customer service really does suck though. They cut you off and don't really act professional at all. However I've been paying for the same service Unlimited talk/text and web with Tmo and it cost me 88.40 after taxes. I called them to cancel today after getting the SimpleMo sim. They couldn't even match that price ($60 from simple), which is a pity.
[G2 and Desire Z General] snowspomer:
It won't be that bad.. I actually think all users of AT&T and T-mobile will benefit :) I'm excited to see verizon finally have some competition!
[G2 and Desire Z General] poontab:
^Oh really you think T-Mobile users will enjoy sideloading on top of the same **** service?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Rrod15:
I'm just madd cause I'm gonna lose my unlimited data plan over this bs cause att will screw us t-mobile users imo.
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidcues:
I looked into some antitrust documents from Ma Bell past and this wont be happening for a good two years if at all. i predict it will become a political issue with the POTUS trying to stop it and Trump trying to keep this a laissez faire deal.

I guess i really dont need minutes or rate plans at all... just google voice and whatsapp and a good solid data connection to wifi (CLEAR) and im all set. But unless VOIP can be advanced to the point where the hearing consumer doesnt need minutes... id love to see a consumer rebellion!
[G2 and Desire Z General] tonylarrado:
Noooooooooooooo!!!!!

Damn I had AT&T (in which I absolutely HATE with a passion), then it turned to Cingular, then it turned back to AT&T. They have the WORST customer service EVER!!!! So I jumped ship and went to T-Mobile and by the way they have AMAZING customer service, FYI. And they are mostly located within the contiguous US, unlike AT&T which has mostly customer service reps in INDIA (Damn outsourcers). I can barely understand their English or LACK of. This extremely disappoints me :((
[G2 and Desire Z General] clockcycle:
.... you can ring MA-BELL... MA-BELL, ring it..

DeathStar pwns you!

-CC
[G2 and Desire Z General] jbinc:
good point, this could actually work out for Sprint users benefit too, they'll slash prices for plans maybe
[G2 and Desire Z General] DECIM8:
Caught the below article today regarding a change to AT&T's internet policy. Yes I realize that this doesn't directly relate to their cellular service. It does show the general direction that AT&T is going as a company. There are also a few comments about their cellular service. I do agree with their policy of abusing their service agents gets your contract revoked. I do wish they would stop their practices that cause people to feel they need to do so.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/...-want-out-of-an-internet-contract-just-curse/
[G2 and Desire Z General] blackknightavalon:
I'm in NYC. T-Mobile service is outstanding here and I don't want to see it go away just because Ma Bell wants to monopolize again, and I get an American when I call customer service, not Apu from Bangalore with horrible English skills and reading from a checklist.
[G2 and Desire Z General] 120409:
DAMN!

after all this time i kept talking smack about at&t and now im planning to move to their company once that happens....damn im such a hypocrite :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] Sepheroth8723:
We need to write to our congress men and women and show them our misgivings about this.
[G2 and Desire Z General] travisd4est:
Lets get a petition. They always work.
[G2 and Desire Z General] cdsbj6508:
Why don't GOOGLE just buy T-mobile!
[G2 and Desire Z General] DurbanPoison24:
I really like the Atrix. Def wouldn't mind getting that after my contracts done. That or G2x. Contract ends in quite some time though maybe some other super phone will come out. Never thought I would say it but I kinda can't wait.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mikeudut:
now you can dump them and go to sprint Unlimited data 69.99 includes txt, Web, Gps. Sprint lets you call any cell no matter what company it came from for free! and nights start at 7 Sprint Rules...... Now if we can just some more friggin 4G towers. I feel like were paying the extra 10 to build the friggin things........... Red bank NJ still no 4G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] J-Hop2o6:
Sprint network is sooo sorry.. Tmo gets wayyy better reception in Seattle and its surrounding areas.. Our HSPA+ is faster than Sprints "4G"/WiMax, which is over that crappy spectrum band (2500MHz).. basically non-existent indoors (since it sucks at building penetration).. PASS.. I rather go to Verizon for their 4G/LTE over a strong spectrum band (700MHz), which ****s all over Sprints "4G"/WiMax.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Wicked68:
This sucks, T Mobile is the best in all important categories, except in getting the high end phones. I hope it doesn't go through and T Mobile gets that 3 billion, but with all the palms greased by AT&T, I don't see it not going through. Plus DT wants out of the USA Telecom biz, to focus on Europe/Germany. I refuse to be an AT&T customer again. Plus, they have no respect for Android. I just renewed my contract in January, when I got a free G2, and they have to honor that, but after that I will be going elsewhere. When they convert the bands and my phone turns into an EDGE brick, they will be letting me out of my contract, because I won't be signing a new one with AT&T
[G2 and Desire Z General] hkbladelawhk:
Shoot. I had my contract with T-Mo till Feb 2012. I jumped while VZW still has unlimited. :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] JaMoFo:
If anybody is aware of a petition to FCC to stop this merger please post it in a new thread.

This is going to F'in suck for alot of people. :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
Aha... I did long time ago. Seems it was deleted.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ozzygarcia:
This should increase our coverage area.

Hope they don't get rid of unlimited data. :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] PaganAng3l:
Hahahaha "unlimited" data on AT&T. LMAO! I want what you're smoking
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidtoy09:
Hope for the best but expect the worst my friend.
[G2 and Desire Z General] MajorTom_:
AT&T just suck.

they got very few decent phones, crappy service and plans, and coverage.

I'm doing excellent with T-Mobile and got a feeling AT&T will ruin it completely.

It'd be so much better if Verizon bought T-Mobile. :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
Verizion wouldnt want to buy T-Mobile since we use GSM... I think only Sprint and AT&T was the buyes but as we all know AT&T had more money.
[G2 and Desire Z General] totalperception:
Business Perspective

To optimize the response AT&T needs to get global roaming. I say they put the big pink T behind the AT&T globe. They begin to go by AT&T-World-Mobile. GSM needs to get it in gear and become truly unified like the original 3G vision began as.

As far as new competitors you're also going to see stuff like your cable carriers beginning to sell more services. Test have been in place and at one point T-Mobile was going to partner with Comcast. Comcast took too much of a liking to iOS. I sure would have loved to have had them actually do the purchase because then it could have been C-Mobile. The Contra like C would certainly have been a hell of a brand to beat. Comcast has outstanding speed boost on their local network so Content Delivery Networks would have been in delight.

Gosh... Imagine a world where C-Mobile could have partnered Windows Phone as well. Netflix, Hulu, Fancast etc...

I made the jump to AT&T myself because T-Mobile never kept up in devices until like this week right here!

If you are true hearted T-Mobile phandroid fanatic -- lobby Comcast and your local Senator with your opinions.

On a side note I sure hope a bluetooth remote comes for PSN on Android Market. Atrix is great but two point screen inadequate for the real deal content coming our way via Sony and Google. Correct me if I'm wrong and I can get an app for that here.
[G2 and Desire Z General] totalperception:
Maybe even petition all the major market cable companies to sponsor a collaborative purchase of T-Mobile. Local content based on your provider. Integration with existing services. 4G speed the same as your home network. Give me 30 MB down to my mobile. Stream HD live to your network. The cable companies should be drooling over the opportunity to do this.
[G2 and Desire Z General] J-Hop2o6:
^^ Those sound like good ideas.. better than AT&T.. Either Google or Comcast (or a collabo of 2 or more) should buy Tmo, but leave Tmo prices the same and not raise them.. maybe discounts on your monthly plan if u sign up with Comcasts other services.. Wonder why there hasn't been other buyers other than Sprint and AT&T.. boggles my mind.
[G2 and Desire Z General] BobbyHill:
Unfortunately it's not that simple. If anyone were to buy T-Mobile and keep things as they are, it'd be a losing proposition. Their current business model just isn't working out.

Look at it this way. T-Mobile's had the lowest rates of the big four carriers for a while now, and they're not making much of a profit. Even so, (for whatever reasons) they continue to lose customers despite their free phone promotions and further rate cutes.

If they were to increase their rates and try to bring up the profit margin, they'd start losing customers even faster. Eventually, they're going to go from "not making much money" to losing money. Deutsche Telekom has seen the writing on the wall, and that's why they've been looking to sell for a while.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Bugattixda:
I personally think this is a good thing. Both carriers will either make phones that work on all frequencies or conform to one. Coverage should be better. Costs should go down (although I assume there will be layoffs.

As the consumer I will have more choices for handsets and better coverage.

But maybe my glass is half full or in this case completely full.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xsteven77x:
It is nice that your being optimistic and I hope this is how it goes, but don't see how att will all of a sudden become a decent company overnight when the past however many years have been horrendous.
[G2 and Desire Z General] DurbanPoison24:
Edit: Nvm my earlier post. I just realised you were talking about Sprint. My bad.lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] PaganAng3l:
The loss of competition in a capitalist market is never good. I don't see how the fcc could approve this merger and give at&t 100% of the gsm market, but with enough cash our goverment officials can be bought to "see" it any way at&t wants.

Sent from my Monster G2 w/ meXdroid meXperia V2
[G2 and Desire Z General] hd2joel:
As far as customer service phones rate plans and data caps it "could " be bad dependng on what they dp as far as phone service its nothing but good tmo get att towers att gets tmo towers amd tmo gets the 850mhz band thats all ready built into our tmo chipsets whic will gove much better building penatration than the 1900mhz they use now so thats a win. The rest will have to wait and see they know if they jack the priceses up and add data caps poeple are gonna jump ship especaly sence their gpnna have to give us the option to get out of our contracts. And people went to tmo on the first place for cost savinings not their great :) coverage. But tmo + att towers= pretty damn good coverage and a lot more network to spread their coustmers around so decreased conjestion so its all win on the service side as far as i can see. As far as priceing well we will just have to see att just needs to remember tmo was concidered a low cost carrier so they cant go jacking up prices especaly when everyone will have the optiom to leave etf free. And they know that. So just wait it out people everyone is all negitive it could turn out good the combo of net works puts them real close to on par with big red as far as coverage goes.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tnpapadakos:
thank God thats over
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr234:
There was never any doubt.

From day 1, T-Mobile had this planned. ATT never had a CHANCE of getting this pulled through. If T-Mobile believed it would work, they wouldn't have bothered to get STUPID ATT to agree to the $4 billion break-up provision.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jayavarman:
That was a long waste of a process. Verizon and AT&T control 75% of the market. Sprint and T-Mobile USA are too small to survive on their own. They cannot keep pace with the capital investments of the much larger Verizon and AT&T. Sprint is struggling to build a 4G LTE network, and T-Mobile does not even have any immediate plans for one. I am hoping that some big outside investors (Dish Network, Google, etc.) come in and buy out the small carriers and make the necessary cash infusions. As a consumer, I want affordable, nation-wide mobile broadband with high (or unlimited) data caps.
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
If the merger had gone through, AT&T and Verizon would have owned 3/4 of the market share. They don't own that now.

According to the following, AT&T and Verizon combined own less than 50% of the market.

https://www.billshrink.com/cell-phones/carrier-compare/index.html
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nospin:
Unfortunately, DT still wants to dump Tmobile USA. Either they succeed in doing so (Hey Google....) or Tmo goes under in a few years. No way any of that 2 billion breakup fee ever makes it back to the US branch.