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[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
There are very few companies that would not sell out if they are offered much more than the business is worth on a stand alone basis. AT&T offer reflects a very large premium - basically the monopoly value from getting rid of a lower priced competitor and for their becoming number one ahead of Verizon.

It is interesting (and sad) that this announcement came out just a few weeks after the TMo parent company made a statement that they were unhappy with TMo USA, as it had lost subscribers while the other three had all generated a net increase during the previous year.

A consulting group in the Netherlands has a different take on it - they point the finger at the parent and not TMo USA, as the parent had made similar mismanagement mistakes in Europe and should have used the lessons learned to have better managed the USA operation.

But given the parent's view of the world, something was going to happen.

At the end of the day, TMo subscribers loose either way. Either we get shoved into AT&T, or after a year or more, our service will be way behind other carriers, as TMo is not going to invest in system upgrades or anything else in TMo USA during this period - and possibly not after either.
[myTouch 4G General] Tatdude806:
My $.02 worth...

I would still like to see a company like Google, purchase TMO and operate it as a subsidiary of Google. There is no reason why they couldn't do that. I know the builders, HTC, MOTO, etc would pitch a fit, and the other carriers would do the same, but it would be one viable way to save TMO...
[myTouch 4G General] $pitacular1:
Best. Solution. Ever.

Indeed.
[myTouch 4G General] mulletcutter:
G-MOBILE :)
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
Good idea, but unfortunately, I believe that Google has too much at stake trying to have Android become the preeminent system for smartphones and tablets over all carriers to risk having the other carriers move in a different direction. The other carriers are the ones who would pitch a fit.
[myTouch 4G General] Tatdude806:
That is the sad part. I don't think the other carriers would have an issues as long as TMO was an independent company, all shares being owned by Google, but you are probably right, AT&T would be the first to go WAH-WAH! Cry me a friggin' river :)
[myTouch 4G General] jentzschman2000:
Well, we shall see what happens. Like most have mentioned, even if it happens, its going to be alt least a year, probably more like 18-24 months before it is even accepted. Then it will take longer to actually make the switch. I dont see att&t doing anything heavy till the merger is accepted. So if and when that happens, it will still take them time to get the networks synced/whatever.

So, we shall see. If rates stay by some grace of God, I will stay, for a very short time, to see how it works out.

If **** changed the minute the merger is accepted, Im out!

Most likely go to Sprint as I can get a %23 discount with my work.
[myTouch 4G General] redndeyes:
Please take a min or two and check out the link in my sig.... only need like 800 more folks.... for the cause

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/.......
[myTouch 4G General] BCD90:
My main thing is the unlimited data issue. I dont think it will be so bad to move to ATT unless they try to limit my data usage then i would be very upset. Friend has an iphone and has to be careful not to go over. Does not sound like fun to me.
[EVO 4G General] rushco:
Haha wow. I can't believe it. 39 billion.

Now Verizon buys Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] Crossrocker:
WOAH

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
[EVO 4G General] Bamba1260:
Say what?

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[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Yea, crazy. Why does it seem outta nowhere to me? Kinda like the UFC buying Strikeforce... I need better rumormills.
[EVO 4G General] Laoto:
Wow
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
link??...........
[EVO 4G General] blackroseMD1:
Wow, that kind of came out of nowhere. I wonder what Sprint is thinking now...

Forbes: AT&T Acquires T-Mobile
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
www.engadget.com
[EVO 4G General] AngelofChaos:
http://www.mobilizeeverything.com/home.php - hit the proceed button on the page, and it'll take you directly to the press release.
[EVO 4G General] AbsolutZeroGI:
Holy hell I'm glad I dropped ship from T-Mobile when I did.

So it'll be called AT&T-Mobile now? Goodbye everything I liked from the big pink guys :(
[EVO 4G General] Jjday7:
Thank god I didn't switch a couple months back. This freaking sucks. I hate at&t and love Tmobile. At&t is really going to stain that customer service rating that tmobile boasts about all the time. Wow is all I can say. The only plus is.....well there is no plus. Nevermind
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
damn! how does the new total size compare to verizon??

so that makes 3 major national carriers.. 1 GSM and 2 CDMA...

sort of makes GSM look like a smaller tech.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
yea sprints got to be ****ting bricks
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
you know what.. att could take tmobiles name... get rid of the att bad name in wireless..
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Let's just hope Sprint continues to make gains so Big Red doesn't swoop in and snatch us next!!
[EVO 4G General] chowder25:
Looks like alot of people will be losing jobs...good ol at&t
[EVO 4G General] jagox5:
Wow incredible! Say goodbye to tmobile good plans. Sucky At&t going to take away anything tmobile had unlimited.
[EVO 4G General] ipatella:
What happens to all the grandfathered plans during these kinds of things? I'd hate it if I were on T-Mobile and I had to put up more for At&t.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
Wow, so glad I stuck with Sprint. T-Mobile customers are about to get screwed.

Pocket posted...
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
If i turn off the Cookie monster bar at the bottom to get the original slider back then the icons above it 'bleed' into it. Anyway of making those icons smaller or only having 1 row of icons?

I've been through all the settings but can't suss it out

Thanks
[Captivate General] xdahgary:
At&t buys T-mobile!

Discuss! :p
[Captivate General] 41LY45:
NNNNNNNNNNUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I haz no GSM alternative now!!! :mad:

*gets a Verizon Droid with world phone capablities*

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/
[Captivate General] Killerfish1450:
AT&T Merger

Here is a pretty good break down of what I've found on the subject. I think it will be good for T-Mobile Users but think we are going to get the short end of the stick with the government cracking down on AT&T now that they will be the largest Cell carrier in the world.

Edit: Looks like I took too long you beat me to it.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Does that mean we get Catherine Zeta-Jones?:D
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Hell I am just glad now ATT will get some decent Android phones lol
[Captivate General] bigbooty:
I like the new chick too.
[Captivate General] upNsmokeAllDay:
Very interesting indeed.

Sent from my Amazing Captivate using the XDA Premium App Infused with Tiger Blood
[Captivate General] gephross100:
at&t network is gonna go to **** (deeper ****) once they finish the merge and we share towers/the network.
[Captivate General] bpodz34:
does this mean t-mobile turns into at&t and wat about CTIA...like the G2X (optimus 2x) will it be a at&t phone now plus what about the new Nexuses (Nexi?)
[Captivate General] kangi26:
Not too shocking. TMO was starting to really hurt. They were looking at some serious customer bailing. Somewhere in the 2.5-2.7%, I think AT&T/Verizon are in the >1% last I heard.

Seems there would be no competition, Sprint probably not even in the running, financially, and Verizon is CDMA, no way they'd cross technologies

The funny part is the new ad campaign TMO has, ripping AT&T and the iPhone

As far as the devices, there is the Galaxy 4G, and the G2. Not too bad I guess
[Captivate General] kangi26:
Catherine Zeta Jones knock off
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Could be worse lol. Think backflip and flipout lol.
[Captivate General] reinbeau:
How so? I'm thinking it's going to make my signal better around here, there are places where T-Mobile has coverage that neither AT&T nor Verizon.
[Captivate General] kangi26:
Uhhh, I'd rather not think about those again ;)
[Captivate General] Longcat14:
T-Mobile person here.

I think it would help both. Mostly the T-Mobile people since I'll finally have coverage where T-Mo doesn't (my damn school), but yeah.

So..... what's up future bro's?
[Captivate General] Phateless:
T-Mobile guy here and I'm pissed. I NEVER drop calls and have incredible customer service.

If this merge goes through I'm changing carriers.
[Captivate General] Longcat14:
forgot about dropped calls and T-Mobile's amazing CS. >.>

Please AT&T, don't mess us over with that. :(
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Wait until you get your first AT$T bill. You'll wish you were an only child.:eek::D
[Captivate General] Longcat14:
we pay $270 for 3 lines of unlimited everything.... anyone wanna tell me how much it's gonna round out to be on AT&T? :/

EDIT: I am an only child. ROFL
[Captivate General] gephross100:
pretty much all carriers equate to about the same for price.
[Captivate General] Longcat14:
Yes, but AT&T doesn't have unlimited data, and even their 2GB data is more then the unlimited I have with T-Mobile. :(
[Captivate General] slvr00gt:
I can't imagine Feds clearing this competition busting merger.... but who knows!
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Please watch the swearing in the threads.

As for the unlimited. It should be understood that with the way smartphones have blown up and everybody now wanting a smartphone (even those that just shouldnt have one lol) that the unlimited data of the past is just that a past thing. With the way it is being used now I can only see 2 options. 1. Data plans like ATT and verizon are doing now. 2. Unlimted data but with speed caps. I know we all complain about the service but think about it from their point of view. They are in the Biz to make money, cant fault them for that.
[Captivate General] daveshih:
$270!?!?!

You have to have everything? I imagine you can drop down to a cheaper plan when you switch to at&t with rollover.
[Captivate General] Longcat14:
Yeah, we actually have too. My parents call outside of the country (I'm not originally from America) so the unlimited talking and texting does wonders for us (gotta love free international). The unlimited data is only for me, and I think the rest is just random stuff that we have for the phones.

EDIT: Didn't see the rollover part. Well honestly, I think we would, but how does international work with AT&T?

Sorry.

The unlimited data on T-Mobile is basically the second option. A 5GB cap, but the speeds aren't to bad when capped. It's enough to view normal websites, and some other things.
[Captivate General] DCrozier28:
Wrong!! T-MO is typically $30-$50+ then the competitors.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
I hope they won't be bringing in a ton of new users with unlimited data plans onto our already congested network.:(
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Yep, that and their limited coverage is what kept me from switching back in December.
[Captivate General] zelendel:
What will most likely happen is the same thing that happened here last year when they bought out a small Alaska based company. They will honor the existing contracts till the end of them but once they are out of contract they will have to sign a new one and none of their old features will apply.
[Captivate General] Phateless:
I see this as big city traffic overrunning my beautiful small town.

I don't want ATT iPhone crowding on my T-Mobile network. All of you with captivates should have bought the vibrant instead.

Non market apps are allowed out of the box, you'd get updates sooner and fewer dropped calls as well as a little speed boost from hspa+.

I'd rather be with Ghettro pcs than ATT.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
I figured as much, but that means many of them could have a year or more left on those unlimited contracts.:mad:
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Well to be honest I have gone over both contracts and if it became to much of a prob ATT and T-mobile both reserve the right to make changes to the contract at any point as long as they notify the person of the intent to do so. Plus sense ATT and Tmobile use different bands for their 3g I dont think we will see too much congestion till the first set of phones comes out that is set for what ever band they decide to use.
[Captivate General] Roof King:
You ought to see the reaction on the Vibrant forums.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Wow!:eek: Definitely some blue and white hate over there for sure.:D
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
News flash: T-Mobile doesn't have unlimited data... The difference between T-Mobile and AT&T is one is upfront about it.

Sent from my Captivate
[Captivate General] xdahgary:
Question: Is att's hspa+ backwards compatible with tmo's hspa+ (21mbps)?

Would be great if att switched to tmo's higher speed hspa+.
[Captivate General] 41LY45:
IIRC, both have different Mhz band. Not too sure of that though.
[Captivate General] Pierce533:
They'll likely burn all the T-Moblile phones like Nazis burning books.

I guess it is possible to go Godwin about a cell phone company. :eek:
[Captivate General] Longcat14:
Yeah, we like our company how it is. xD

We do have unlimited, it's just that we get throttled at 5GB. Doesn't mean we pay overage fees. ;)

I'm pretty sure it's not, but I could be wrong.

There are a few T-Mobile phones that deserve that, but not the Nexus S. D:
[Captivate General] flashman2002:
I was still in Alaska when AT&T bought Dobson communication. I hated that I had to sign a new contract and felt screwed. Who knows what will now happen with this merger.
[Captivate General] Gibsonusa:
I hope that current att customers don't see a spike in rare plans due to one less competitor out there fir people to have the option of going with, but well see how it goes.
[Captivate General] Mik3D23:
Is this rumor? Or actually announced, because I read last night that Sprint and t-mobile are possibly merging. lol
[Captivate General] Phateless:
The announcement is dated today and is also on the T-Mobile website.

What's the date on the article you read and where did you read it? Are you sure it was a credible source?
[Captivate General] Mik3D23:
CNN news. Read it on my mobile app. And I'm pretty sure it was dated yesterday
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
That would make it yesterday's news. Things change quickly in the digital world.:D
[Captivate General] Mik3D23:
haha i guess so. We have no choice but to be optimistic about it, hopefully service will be better especially in non-urban areas like where i live.(yeah, right)
[Captivate General] Jirv311:
Why are the threads in the Vibrant forum on this subject closed?
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Probably because they got so nasty. We're a little more refined in here.:D
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
Getting throttled is exponentially worse than overage fees.

Sent from my Captivate
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Say what? Maybe you're made of money, but I'm not.
[Captivate General] xdahgary:
He's saying false advertising is worst than paying for something you agreed to.
[Captivate General] Groundhack:
The end of days are upon us! repent!!!
[Captivate General] veener79:
I am doing 1 unlimited internet on my andriod and running 3 other lines for normal phones with 2gigs of internet and unlimted texting for all 4 lines and I paying about $160 a month. That is with my work discount of 20%.
[Captivate General] modmyphone:
Not a rumor. Just watched the story on my local news.
[Captivate General] PixoNova:
You mean the crowd that moved to Verizon?
[Captivate General] Hydro360:
Hey my boss has t-Mobile and even on the best of custom roms his phones network consistently out performs att. His 3G is almost as fast as att 4G so it will only help our network connection and it will massively expand t-mo in one step in happy for it let's just hope t-mo customer service comes over they are the highest rated in the world so I'm all for this
[Captivate General] Phateless:
Good point but ATT customer service can still suck it.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
I've yet to have an encounter that leads me to feel the AT&T has below average customer service.

AT&T is like Vista... It's cool to hate on, but most of it is largely unfounded.

Sent from my Captivate
[Captivate General] stevesteveLA:
Thank God for grandfathered contracts. Still on unlimited AT&T data. The throttling blows, but hopefully having T-Mobile's network will help.

Hope you Tmo guys get to keep your contracts...

Captivate CM7
[Captivate General] david717:
I'm happy with ATT, happy with the merge. Tmo CS, can't be that great, my only problem with ATT was how they dealt with the galaxy S problems, but every carrier did that poorly.

I honestly don't think the network can get worse, only better for me. Even in decent sized cities I get good speeds and no dropped calls.

Is Tmo's 3g really 21mbps? I have a hard time believing that...
[Captivate General] reinbeau:
AT&T's customer service has never been bad to me, on the other hand, because of Verizon's piss-poor customer service I will never do business with them again. If they became the only phone company I would not own a phone. That's how much I despise them.

Hopefully the merger will work out for the best.
[Captivate General] modmyphone:
What's a dropped call? I'be been with AT$T since then bought Cingular and have never had one. So that can't t possibly be a standard network issue but rather a localized issue.

I only see good things coming from the merge. (In my area atleast where I get good speeds and no dropped calls)
[Captivate General] Longcat14:
I will get something good out of this because I will finally have signal (thanks to AT&T) in places where I haven't had signal before, so I'm happy. :D

Sent from my GT-i9000/Vibrant.
[Captivate General] Phateless:
You'd be surprised, T-Mobile customer service is actually pretty amazing. Not bad and very good are a long way apart.
[Captivate General] DAGr8:
I didnt felel like reading the whole thread but my source tells me , its not gonna happen , that smells antitrust violation thousands of miles away

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/g7se5/antitrust_violation_atttmo_violates_clayton_act/
[Captivate General] ccdoggy:
I also have never experienced a dropped call that was not because i went underground or happened to get out of range in the middle of the country. Also been with them since cingular.

I have had my phone replaced by them twice and was a painless experience. just typical Captivate issues.

Does anyone know about the captivate's ability on the T-mobile network? any more bands and how might this effect modem selection?
[Captivate General] Phateless:
Interesting article. Will definitely voice my opinion.
[Captivate General] Longcat14:
Yeah, you guys would LOVE our CS reps. They are amazing. Have to ask, how is AT&T's 3G vs T-Mobile's 3G?
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Same here. Oh, I'll occasionally get the brain-dead rep that has no clue what they're doing/saying, but he/she has never stopped me from getting a good resolution of any gripe I've had.
[Captivate General] viny2cool:
Half of the ATT CS has misinformed me in last 4 months..causing me talking to them for hours to get my bills settled...they charged me like 300 dollars once becoz of the CS rep mistake..

every time I call them..i talk to one person..and they say they will write notes on my account for next call...

I call next time and the CS rep says the person you talked to before misinformed you..and I have to start from scratch...happened to me like 4 times

Even T-Mobile stores are more friendly and helpful as compared to crowded ATT stores.
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
Watching this on CNBC today, one of the "experts" claimed this would cause a drop in service and innovation. Apparently they currently don't have AT&T using an Android platform otherwise they would know this is all ready an issue. :D

Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
[Captivate General] joeybear23:
Verizon owns 34% of the market today.

AT&T will be at about 39% after the merger, if nobody jumps ship between now and finalization (could be a year or more before approval)

The release shows that most markets will still have at least 5 options for mobile phone providers, so you can hardly argue it is approaching monopoly dominance.
[Captivate General] KiltedGuy:
AT&T drops unlimited data for smart phones as a money grab. Now they're doing the same for DSL customers. Now they're buying a smaller network all the while claiming congestion is driving up costs.

AT&T has gone to hell in a hand basket. Happy I'm not a customer of theirs anymore. Their customer service is ****ty, the product is ****ty, the support is ****ty. I'm hoping they loose a lot of customers and say to themselves, "We really ****ed up."
[Captivate General] joeybear23:
Wouldn't buying out new infrastructure decrease congestion?

AT&T is far more saturated than TMo, and TMo has been losing customers. The net would be increased capacity for existing AT&T customers and increased coverage for TMo customers.

Also, any AT&T customer who is looking at moving to 4G should be ecstatic, because this deal will accelerate 4G coverage.

Us 3G guys... meh.
[Captivate General] xdahgary:
Long term, this deal will expand the rollout of LTE (4g). In the short term, nothing, since it needs to be reviewed by regulators.
[Captivate General] kangi26:
As far as customer service goes, everybody has a bad customer service story from anywhere if they shop there long enough. People have sh**ty days, and then don't give a rats a** about the customers. AT&T has them, Tmo, has them. Everybody has them. I have great stories about AT&T, been with them 7 years, I have a couple bad stories from Cingular days. Big whoop. I can't judge the company as a whole from a bad CS interaction.

Regarding coverage, if AT&T is picking up Tmo's cell sites and is integrating them into their infrastructure, that is not only good for AT&T folks, but good for the former Tmo customers as well. The expansion will hopefully fill some gaps in signal for both sets of customers. IMO it's a win-win situation

For people complaining about dropping calls; really learn about how the cell system works, either GSM or CDMA, doesn't matter. I think in the end, you'll be amazed calls are not being dropped more, or even works at all.

Just my 2 cents
[Captivate General] KiltedGuy:
You can put a V8 in a Pinto, but it's still a Pinto.
[Captivate General] Phateless:
I understand and agree about overall coverage being better on both ends but I really don't like dealing with AT&T. I don't like their policies, I don't like their customer-handling, I don't like their phones and I don't like their prices.

When I realized that I had to use adb to sideload an app on my gf's Captivate because AT&T had disabled that feature I was shocked. T-mobile doesn't do silly **** like that.

My coverage with T-mobile has been stellar and the other day was the first time I dropped a call in literally I can't remember how long. It was such a surprise that I laughed. Even told my gf about it "hey babe, I actually dropped a call today."

I'm with T-mobile because I made a conscious decision to choose them over AT&T.