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[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
exactly.

i doubt I would use this as a DD. but I would Love to play with it, and think this would be a fine feather in Myns (or any other devs) cap, even as a "mostly functioning"/proof of concept.

i've made my offer and commitment earlier, and stand by it. :D

edit: also, I don't outright poopoo on WP7. I started with casio handhelds, early palm handhelds, palm treo and winmo phones, loved them all for different reasons.
[EVO 4G General] Crossrocker:
I hope the amount of money donated is enough to buy myn the evo 3d ;)

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Currently myn is the only other major team member anyone else who would like to help build the first bootloader(we have to start somewhere might as well start with being able to boot the thing) please Pm me

Sent from my future WP7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] just4kix:
I'll pledge $50 to this!
[EVO 4G General] cordell12:
I pledged $20 but that was in the old thread, so if that isnt included in this tally add me for $20!
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
it is included
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
You CANNOT have BOUNTY threads on XDA!

Geesh OP, get a clue already. Your threads keep getting shut down because BOUNTY THREADS are a clear violation of xda Forum Rules.

Do you even care?

If you just made a W7 thread without the bounty that would be fine, but you INSIST ON DOING THE BOUNTY THING which gets the thread shut down. I wouldn't be surprised if they also banned your IP after this.

By asking for a "bounty", you are clearly asking for "donations up front". xda does NOT permit this and will shut this thread down.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
Seeing as this thread has been up for DAYS now, you look stupid. And the other thread got shut down because of people *****ING (such as yourself).

Go B&M somewhere else.
[EVO 4G General] greymalken:
Do you ever post anything productive? You're in thread after thread *****ing about money. Always threatening threads with closure. I remember when you went after myn about beta testing. Chill the hell out.

On topic: if myn's game, I'll test.

Can't think of a witty tag line. . . Swyped from my Warm Evo.
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
That'll be my next device that I'll finally use my upgrade on. I'd like to see Myn get one when it is released. Myn makes beautiful ROMs and that are executed well (read high functioning).

I'm in to assist with bootloader debugging. I don't have the experience to really build/design the bootloader, but my C/C++ skills are very sharp and I spend a LOT of time debugging/fixing. I think once there is enough code I could probably jump in to help build... since I could look at the existing code and make out what is happening and where it needs to go.

Is there ARM ASM involved in creating a bootloader for the EVO? Or would it be NAND ASM? I would imagine there would be some machine language around there somewhere required to add this kind of functionality.

My day to day development is Java/iOS/Android... but I do work on quite a bit of C/C++ stuff in the client server space on a regular basis. I'm sure I could help and add value.

Myn, once you get a couple other folks rounded up will you be creating a freenode irc room? I wouldn't mind lingering to pick up on what is required and add value whenever possible. My gmail is my xda username at gmail if you want to email me or gtalk.
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
If it is that big of a deal, then someone make a new thread name that does not include the "B" word.
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
It's only still open because it's a small thread and the OP's probably haven't gotten many complaints about it (yet). I promise you, the other thread was closed for violating the rules, not for complaining (lots of threads with complaining remain open).

Rules exist for a reason. Stuff like this cheapens the xda mission.
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
No one is asking or requiring a donation, which is what they are talking about. There was a huuuuge thread about the bounty for WiMAX on CM7 that survived until the day they came through. As long as people remain civil, this thread will be just fine.

Can we all please just behave like adults and remain civil please? This is supposed to be fun ya'll!
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
That's just it. The thread is a GREAT idea. It is just the bounty crap that cheapens it. They write those rules for a reason.

No, that thread was closed long before the project was completed for a Rule #8 violation, just like this one will be. How many other "bounty" threads do you see in EVO Development? None, right? There's a reason for that.
[EVO 4G General] gosmeyer:
Is it really that hard??

Come on here. Paypal acct. donate and release accordingly, Let a single individual administrate and be done......If it doesn't work out, PM me. Seriously, look at the aviator......I'll fix it!

Rangers Lead The Way!
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
I really think you are mistaken. Maybe we don't see any other bounty threads in the EVO dev section, but if you do a google search for xda and bounty, a number of them come up, and they are all open. They have the word bounty in the title, and some even have the amount of money (as I recall the WiMAX one did). Some of these threads have been open for over a year (so I'd think they'd be closed by now if it were a violation).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=748880

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=651336

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=617203

This is an immensely huge undertaking. It's going to require several talented people. The folks here recognize that and want to contribute some funds to possibly motivate some of these talented folks to use some of their valuable time to work on this project.

Let's get back on topic please and just stick to discussing the project. Maybe someone has some info from other threads about technical details on bootloader design?
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
I wish we could keep all the trolls under this damned bridge! I don't recall ONE dev beginning this thread or one similar seeking to be "paid" for their work porting WM7 to our phones. People such as myself have chosen AS A COMMUNITY to pledge our donations towards something that we would love to be a part of. I'm unsure why so many "community members" feel the need to destroy what's beginning here. Please, avoid further making yourselves look like asses. Find something else to do so that you feel better about your online cred and let the team that is forming see what can be accomplished with this project. We're sorry that you can't share in our enthusiasm but I will chose to help in any way that I can, and this early on that means pledging that I will DONATE.

Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
As long as no one is in here collecting money without giving us something to boot(that works) the bounty is cool.
[EVO 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
Do you mean like this one that ran from Aug-Dec 2010 before getting closed:

[POOL] WiMAX on CM6 (Grand Total of $2,995!)

Did you complain about that thread as well?
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Guys let him speak don't shunt him so quickly.I will run this by a moderator within 24-48 hours. If they say I must change it I will. This will pelase everyone. As for mitchellvii pleasing don't go around policing the forums if you have a problem about this conact me remember this forums Wichita also complies with xda rules to my knowledge keep it on subject so we don't clog up the pipes,

thank-you,

Sent from my future WP7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
we have a respected dev onboard. no reason for this thread to be closed. keep it civil or get the hell out of the thread.
[EVO 4G General] jlechner:
Agreed. On top of that, is it really a big deal to ask a moderator? Everyone wants to throw rules around, but it all comes down to what they say anyways.

Fixx, is there any reason to keep up with the AC thread?
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
i haven't updated it in awhile. i just got word from myn last night. so it's up to him where he may want to host this at. id assume he will want it here.

im on call all weekend for work so i will not be on much. hope we can get something going soon.

and for all you nubs that say we cannot have a bounty, grow up. myn is a respected dev, he may not even want anything. maybe we can just donate to him anyways.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
i have already brought this issue to a mod i am waiting for their response

so who so far thinking they are up to the challenge of creating a bootloader.

my idea was doing a emulator hack and have it run from the SD card first then see if we can work from there. we can rip somethings from the HTC arrive and we should be able to slice somethings together but then again thats just my idea maybe som devs have a better way of makeing these things work
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Good call fixxer, and any dev who takes on this has my vote. I'm still sticking with my donations and I'm sure others will also. Myn good luck
[EVO 4G General] Dj21o:
Yeah definitely good luck Myn.

I'M PUMPED!
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
/\ NICE!! /\

Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G General] miphonematt:
Next Steps

I think if someone were to PM cotulla (or the other fellow that had the youtube video posted of his HD2 booting into WM7 long before it was released) and ask him how his magldr works, that might be some handy info, because it would seem logical that the opposite would be required for what we're trying to do. What I do recall of the explanation I'd read some time back is that WM phone bootstrap differently (and I don't mean OS bootstrap, since that is obvious). Basically I believe that NAND would boot into a mini ROM that would emulate a WM device's SPL (HSPL/OSPL) that would normally be on an EEPROM somewhere. I think it would a similar situation to the difference between how a Mac and a PC boot where the bios has low level drivers (sort of) on a PC and nvram has them for the Mac (or something to that effect). Myn probably has the relationship to best ask those questions, so it may need to be him that gathers that info.

I'd also like to level set with all the folks that are anxious to get WP7 on their EVO. I guarantee you that this is at least 60 days out until it is safe enough for anyone other than the dev(s) to test/flash.

We should add the word "Project" to the Subject of this thread. We should also add the rule "Do Not Ask for an ETA" in Bold, All Caps, bright red text. That is by far one of The Most irritating things to a dev, and I've known it to cause devs to not post progress updates. That is the number 1 rule of etiquette for projects like this. I hope everyone in this thread can understand and respect that.

OP (lui) would you mind making those changes (if you agree of course, not trying to be bossy)
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
i will thanks
[EVO 4G General] adamantypants:
I was under the impression that the bounty would most likely go towards a Win7 phone (most likely the Arrive) so that the main dev has something to work with and pull files from.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
Once the team is assembled they will decide what to with the money

Sent from my future WP7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
8. Donations.

We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.

Seems pretty gray to me. Rule #8 seems to imply that asking for donations up front is against the rules, however, that is not the case with a bounty thread. In a bounty thread, members are offering up donations for the completion of a project. Not really the same...

In regards to the WIMAX bounty thread, seems unusual that an EVO forum mod, (toastcfh) was actively posting in the thread that was supposedly against site rules, seems like a mod would no the rules pretty well...

OP, looking forward to the response from the mod you PM'd. There are so many people around here trying to do the job of a moderator yet, we still haven't heard anything directly from a moderator.
[EVO 4G General] smarcin:
Have you thought of contacting unCoRrUpTeD? He's the guy working on getting dual booting working on Android. As such, he must know a lot about boot loaders. Here's his thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=847423

I agree with myn. Working with dzo might help a lot. I was present when dzo and myn were making Android work on our old HTC Touches. We could dual boot Android from our WM phones.

I just hope that when the new, cool Evos come out, all the devs don't leave our original Evo and jump to the Evo 3D.

Put me down for $35. I'll even donate ahead of time if we need a phone for the devs.
[EVO 4G General] jwzg:
Overground is also a Sr. Mod. Please do NOT report a bounty thread unless there are flames or someone has been scammed. Other than that, we'll keep a close eye on it.

Nuff said. The moderators.
[EVO 4G General] Igotsanevo4g:
Maybe we can get everything that has been posted by the moderators added to the OP to curb the backseat moderating going on. Just a suggestion.

Now that everything is squared away, I'm pumped for this! Glad to see real developers starting to tackle this :D
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
Awesome! Thanks moderators!

Tapatalked from my 3DS...

Not really, but this thing is badass!
[EVO 4G General] ViViDboarder:
I understand that it would be cool to have the option of wp7, but what about it do you guys all want?

Honestly just curious...
[EVO 4G General] bumsock:
I'm guessing it's just the challenge of actually doing it.
[EVO 4G General] lui22:
thats what i think we should do imagine if we get this thing working on the evo what other devices this could work on and even vise versa put android on WP7 phones
[EVO 4G General] Stalte:
I would also try to talking to Virus he is a freaking pro at porting stuff and I know he would like this challenge.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
The OS

Tapa tapa tapa
[EVO 4G General] Stalte:
And bragging rights
[EVO 4G General] djnarcotics:
the most useful thing and honestly the only thing i think truly worth anything in WP7 is XBOX LIVE and its GAMES
[EVO 4G General] thlinx:
Great idea, but is it really worth the time? As fast as technology is moving, there will be something better out this summer, we can upgrade to. I talked to my sprint rep last week, and he informed me an awesome sprint phone is coming out soon in august. For some of you august is a long time but couldn't the devs work on just perfecting the roms that already exists? I think we are moving too fast and need to slow down a bit...

ps im not trolling.. Most of you use that word completely out of context when it comes to this topic. I merely think people like to express there opinion like myself, how they feel about this project...
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
But... most of us can't upgrade this year. As you (should) know, Sprint changed the premier plan guidelines, so unless we opt to pay more (which many people won't), we do not have an upgrade. So yes, it is really worth the time.
[EVO 4G General] jlechner:
Not calling you a troll, or being a jerk, but I don't understand the folks such as you who come onto a thread just to say "this is a bad idea, don't do it." Honestly, if you don't think it's a good idea, why did you even click the thread? It takes more time for you to do that than to just move on to something you are interested in.

Just my .02
[EVO 4G General] ninoriff:
Windows 7

This is a wonderful idea that really needs all of our support, I also have an HD2 and the things that phone can do is simply amazing, Having full control of our equipment is what this is all about. HTC EVO has some great hardware and the possibilties are endless... Here is $30 to the bounty plus use me as a tester as well as I barely use my EVO...

Also call Microsoft to get your own Windows Phone 7 Serial Key, they will give to you over the phone for free :)
[EVO 4G General] deadcore:
indeed...im agree with u ,sir
[EVO 4G General] Circular Pastry:
Sounds like something we should all do before they figure out why we are requesting them! I'm sure they won't be happy not getting that initial kickback from the sell of a handset.

Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G General] disbeyad999989:
What do they ask you on the phone? Cuz im calling right now
[EVO 4G General] samsonite.ace:
HAHA @sarcasm .....if this is sarcasm?

and so far what are looking at for testers? Im in for testing some boots and all

I agree with someone who mentioned virus, hes a porting machine who would probably be great for helping out myn

I was hoping to hear from some other devs by now considering myn was a part of the team AND we have a decent "DONATION" involved not B words lol
[EVO 4G General] kingdazy:
from this, to...

this.

And it would be yet another thing that would make XDA famous.

Every single Android site would light up with the news of the project, and the dev that did it.

agreed, virus is a monster, consummate master. but as this involves a bootloader, i doubt it would be as quick as his 1 hour inspire port yesterday. ;)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johng75:
anyone else noticed this thing heating up during long times of video playback, but especially while in a video call over qik?

i have a desktop widget app that has seen temps of 105f ???
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] live4nyy:
It's probably reading residual heat from the dual core processor. I have heard of people reaching 115 degrees on their phones. The processor can handle it, but excessive heat over prolonged periods might deteriorate the battery quality quicker, that's all
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian2220:
when i had the epic 4g the whole battery would heat up and now with the atrix it only does it in one spot of the battery
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] live4nyy:
Is it down at the bottom around where the capacitive buttons are in the back?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aszrael1266:
mine was reading 115F when I was using gps and other apps at the same time. It would not go over 115F and it was in direct light on the dash board. For some reason my phone since that day has been running cooler even when I try to push it and get it to that temp again it wont do it. The incipio feather case helps with holding the phone when it gets that hot lol

Its not the battery that is heating up. It stays cool its the bottom of the phone where I think the cpu and stuff is.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] live4nyy:
Yeah, that's pretty much it. The dual core is going to get hot sometimes and the battery temp sensor is going to catch some of that heat.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian2220:
yes near right near the sim slot
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] live4nyy:
Yeah, that's the processor. It's not the battery getting that hot.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aszrael1266:
I think I found a use for all the heat lol. I got one of those screen protectors where you have to use fluid to get them to stick. I think the brand is gadget guard. I hope the heat transfers to the screen. I've got a nice 25 min youtube clip playing with screen brightness at 100% and the charger plugged in I think I will run the mp3 player also for good measure see how hot I can get this bad boy.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madnav:
Don't know if it is relevant but battery heat issue went away from i switched to a custom power plan in battery manager..the night mode was keeping sync alive all the time during day resulting in battery drain and heat.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aszrael1266:
with youtube going for 40 min straight the screen on full brightness the battery charger plugged in and win amp running its holding steady at 41C.

I decided to try and see how far I can push the multi task. So far wim amp is playing the gps latatuide thing is going youtube is playing and I'm sending and receiving texts at the same time the phone isn't slowing down one bit. I can only get the temp up to 42 right now.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaaji1359:
Really guys? 115F is the best you can do?

When my Atrix was plugged into my car dock, running Car Dock, Navigation, and Slacker Radio, SetCPU was reading 62C (144F). 115F is nothin :D. I've been playing games on my phone and its reached over 55C (131F).

This is my second Atrix so it's not a faulty device. I have a SetCPU profile to underclock over 60C; I had originally set it at 55C but it would underclock too often while playing games and during car dock mode.

IMO, I think Motorola is smart enough to implement some form of heat protection into their phone once the phone reaches a certain temperature. They know it's a dual core phone and I'm sure the engineers expected a lot of heat.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snoozemode:
42 degrees for me, really crazy. Do they have warning stickers for this in the US so that they dont get sued?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ethantarheels123:
yea i have around the same temps as you. I have the body glove case on, so do you think that its worsening the overheating or dissipating the heat?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stratax:
i cant really even have Wifi and battery charging at the same time. the phone gets so hot lol
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] capercb:
I notice that when i change my battery heat temps are all over the place , 6 batteries and only 2 off them show a heat range and keep a heat range of 25 to 27 degrees ..just swap out one battery at 25 degrees and put the new one in booted and notice that it is at 37 degrees and holding under no stress . Here the funny thing at 25 the back and screen got very warm to the touch but at 37 the back and screen are cool to the touch:confused::confused:
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loveact:
even in standby mode,my atrix's CPU temp is about 42-44 C

and the battery heat is about 35 C

it's kind of crazy because i didn't use any apps though.. :(

my phone is just sit still at my desk

how to get rid of this crazy battery/CPU heat?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RobertHavens:
I've seen this too. In the car dock with navigation and music I've seen it reach 139°F. It seems to always get hot in the car dock.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] tlytkine:
I made this thread solely for one reason: to show download links for over clock kernels. So you guys can post what you find and hopefully we can more widely spread HTC expresso over clock kernels :)
[myTouch 3G Slide General] SefEXE:
Isn't there like... 2? D:
[myTouch 3G Slide General] krapt0:
yes, only 2 out there.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] mattkaz:
yeah i need one anybody have the links?
[myTouch 3G Slide General] krapt0:
yeah, here you go...

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?f=658
[myTouch 3G Slide General] tlytkine:
Theirs upto 960mhz on dumfuqs test kernel
[myTouch 3G Slide General] nobreak1970:
where is this test kernel?
[myTouch 3G Slide General] tlytkine:
960 overclock

The highest i got was 903mhz but here you go Try your luck :) ht tp://w ww. mediaf ire.com/?h1ddap90qggrv vd (without the spaces: new user)
[myTouch 3G Slide General] txdeathray:
Isn't how high you can overclock related to the hardware instead of the kernel? I mean the kernel gives you the option, but without the hardware, you can't go that high, right?
[myTouch 3G Slide General] PcFish:
It is, that doesn't mean we can't have experimental kernels that push it to its limits. I've gotten up to 921 (without problems) on my phone.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] txdeathray:
ah, so basically if your phone can be overclocked to the max on one kernel, you can try to use another kernel to push it farther, right?
[myTouch 3G Slide General] Wagedroid:
so a certain amount of people have asked me for a particular smartass kernel..

here is a link to download

http://rapidshare.com/files/454352438/miguelthekernel3.zip

your welcome..

i take no credit for the kernel, i just happen to have it saved.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] SefEXE:
I dont think we're actually allowed to have links on display for that particular kernel. Not yet anyways.