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[General Topics] presence06:
On the fence. Started looking at Sprint and Verizon. I can get both with 3G out in my area's but data and prices... $120 a month for one line with limited voice/data on Verizon where unlimited voice on Sprint is $69 but you have to get a text package... I don't know.

I just have a feeling that when/if ATT get their way and gobble up T-Mo the unlimited data will go away (I have the loyalty unlimited) and so will other things... :/
[General Topics] Flak_Munky:
Very torn at the moment. There is a lot to be seen and to be worked out before I make my decision. I've heard too many complaints about Verizon in my area, so if I jump ship, it will probably to Sprint. There is a lot of time to figure that out though, so I am not worried in that regard.
[General Topics] RoseBuds:
Yes someone will call you right away and get you set up.
[General Topics] s15274n:
There is still a year, and I doubt they can increase your price... at least initially.

Let the pieces fall before you jump ship for no good reason.
[General Topics] dani26286:
yeah, maybe ill buy iphone 5, and use the time machine feature (if included in that version of the mac os), to restore my self to those times...if i wont have to pay a fee to use may device like that. it's gonna go great with the latest apple innovation of including tethering as a feature of their revolutionary os. of course, older iphones dont have the right to it. why would it be any different. wait, wasnt there somebody else, some other os with a feature like that...yeah, lets trash that to!!!

they did that cuz they where in deep ****, and needed cosumers desperetly, and now, that APPLE gave them an attitude, they think they can do whatever they want, and the reality is, CARRIERS, YOU JUST CANT DO WHATEVER U WANT, IF U WANNA HAVE BUSINESS.

that's it, no matter what fanboy, employee, suit, has to say!

GET REAL PEOPLE!
[General Topics] funeralthirst:
tell that to republicans.

but still, the underlying problems are mostly conservative policy. the united states didn't become a world power by being conservative, it did it with progressive and liberal ideas and innovation. most of which is severely lacking in this country now.
[General Topics] SamsungVibrant:
Well I probably wont stay, thats what most of us are saying NOW because we are bored and have nothing else to rant about.

Truth is, a year from now when the deal is done, I bet most of us are going to stay.

Also we will have the largest network with the most towers. At&t is going to beat Verizon in coverage. At&t for sure won't have any dead zones now.

Only thing that worries me is bandwith with so many customers, but who knows.
[General Topics] tribalartgod:
AT&T purchased T-Mobile

So... AT&T purchased T-Mobile... Link to the story below...

Opinions on this?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...lekom-s-t-mobile-usa-unit-for-39-billion.html
[General Topics] duboi97:
I agree with this and also the current status of our government is pretty bad. We get in other countries affairs for no apparent reason ... like right now in Libya that doesn't effect us at all. I understand if France wants to get in because that's where their oil comes from but to us that's just another African country and we shouldn't be allowed in their affairs. Our country has its own problems like the recession which was ssaid to be over but I still see homeless people on the streets people with no jobs. We should allow other countries to handle their own affairs and care about the current status of our country ...that is also my opinion!
[General Topics] wizzardeel:
im with tmobile.. this means that im gonna be paying my bills to att from now on and have even better service... twice the towers i had before :) nice!
[General Topics] thevuman:
you'll also be paying twice as much with data capped plans and huge restrictions.

today is a sad day, indeed.
[General Topics] thevuman:
tagged for when tmobile officially goes under and AT&T rapes everyone.

Hello, Sprint! You are looking attractive today.
[General Topics] Scoobyracing03:
my past experiances....

I was with a carrier that was bought by Verizon many many years ago. things went semi smooth. if you are under contract your price will be that until your contract is up. At that point there will be a strong push to get you to buy a phone with their brand on it and get you to sign a contract. At that point your pricing you were paying before doesn't matter. You will have to pay their prices now.

I left AT&T in August to save money my company was no loger offereing us phones or a corperate discount for AT&T. for 2 lines unlimited data, unlimited text and IIRC it was 700 anytime minutes with rollover and unlimited AT&T to AT&T and unlimited nights and weekends we were paying $210ish a month. I switched to T-mobile similar plan minus the roll over minutes which we never used any of them anyways. and pay $175 ish a month. Yes I did have unlimited data with AT&T we were locked into that when they got rid of it. We were looking at upgrading our phones and were told we would lose the unlimited data and get stuck with the 2GB plan due to the new contract.

Yes they have a bigger network and I was able to get 3G in more areas than I can with T-mobile but places where T-Mobile wasn't like up in Michigan where my Girlfriend's parents live we were roaming on AT&T so we still had just as good of service as with AT&T which was Edge network there.

Will I stay IF the merger gets the approvals it needs? Not a chance in hell, I'd switch to a reginal carrier or Sprint long before I'd shell out the higher prices of Verizon and AT&T that I once paid.
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
No more threads on this please.

Sent from my Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
[General Topics] faber78:
screw at and t; they are gonna screw you....turn about is fair play.
[General Topics] jdm4u:
well, my contract ends in november, and since by then it won't be a year yet, i will probably renew to get a new phone, if after the merge happens, and im not liking it, 2 things can happen:

if they keep my contract as is and not change it till i have to renew again, ill keep the contract till i have to renew and jump ship.

if they give us 30 days during the merge to jump ship because they WILL make changes to the contract no matter what, i'm jumping ship.

Either way, the only thing that sucks is im not sure which carrier to go to next. Sprint's 4G connection sucks in miami, my friend has an Epic 4G and my 3G speed is faster than his 4G speed. Verizon has awesome speeds with 4G LTE but im not sure if i'll like verizon much, my mom had them before and they had really bad customer service. So we'll see.

I'll probably just get a messenger pigeon.
[General Topics] mouzaihem:
So, should Comcast charge me more for using a router with no password?
[General Topics] orb3000:
All will be merged into this

Please add your quote to easy reference
[General Topics] Step666:
So where in AT&T's T&Cs does it say that the standard data bundles include tethering?

You're not even with AT&T, so why on earth do you insist on posting this nonsense?

You're not one of the people being 'cheated' (not that AT&T are cheating anyone), so why are you so ridiculously worked up about this?

And even if you were one of the affected AT&T customers, have you at any point stopped to take in anything I have posted so far?

Nothing about what AT&T is doing is wrong, they are merely exercising their rights.
[General Topics] Androidboy35961:
This thread keeps on growing and growing..lol
[General Topics] kekoukela:
Wow just wow
[General Topics] caffeinated chris:
if you have a smartphone but dont want data plan on prepaid

to be honest you dont need to tell them you have a smartphone. they only know you have one if you tell them haha. they ask for an IMEI number, make one up that is 15 digits long and starts with like 001 I think it is (alot of phones start with that). or if you have another phone like a flip phone or something, just give them that IMEI number when you sign up. (that is IF you are required to, and IF this deal even goes through by the end of this year)
[General Topics] faber78:
you should charge your neighbors....lol....:D
[General Topics] duboi97:
I agree! I guess a mod took my thread and combined it with this one! I had at least a good 5 pages on my thread....my thread originally was in the Samsung Vibrant forums and I was notified it was moved...but the mod didn't know it was combined either...
[General Topics] kekoukela:
I can't get it
[General Topics] texasrocket:
has anyone seen this? I saw this on tmo news. it was in the comment section.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/
[General Topics] tooter1:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/

Put in my signature!
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
It's bad because a lot of threads are getting merged together, makes my posts look stupid lol.
[General Topics] hkbladelawhk:
Here's the thing though. ATT is still sim carded, right? Still enables us to hot swap sims. Tmobile already has a network in place. Wouldn't it just make sense for them to just merge their servers and all their towers to be one giant T-att? haha.

I mean, I hate ATT too, but I also can't stand Verizon or Sprint. Verizon had crap customer service and Sprint is just lame (no reasoning behind that one).

I do have to wonder what will really change and what it will mean for us. Aren't the T-Mobile phones already compatible with ATT's network and Vice Versa?
[General Topics] SciFiSurfer:
I wonder if the people in charge these days really have a full appreciation for the breakup of AT&T. They all strike me as being politicians (and worse) first, second, and third, and educated and interested public servants a distant fourth. I don't trust our government to do the right thing, so who knows what will happen here.
[General Topics] JDM Civic EG8:
Somewhat, our phones work on ATT edge network and vise versa but not the 3g..sadly
[General Topics] hkbladelawhk:
Does ATT even have "4G"?

Thats gonna be pathetic if they downgrade. I guess we won't know what's gonna happen till this whole thing is over...in the next year.
[General Topics] JDM Civic EG8:
Dont quote me but i think they have HSPDA like we do and going to be coming out with 4G (LTE) soon http://ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-20027369-283.html
[General Topics] dani26286:
as i said step, everything has a begining, and what at&t is starting with sending a threat to jailbroken iphones, will only be an example to use for android users, maybe with a different package and presentation. along with that, add the fact that tmo will become att, and tell me, how much is 2+2...

and, acording to your logics, if i see somebody stealing my neighbors dog, i just shouldnt care and let them do it, right????... and wait for him to get mine next time, and just accept it, cuz...why?

and i could ask u the same..: where does it say it doesnt exactly in the contract? and even so, what gives them the right to charge how i use my device,aand the already purchased data, as long as it doesnt have anything to do with the network anymore, but my own private and personally set up network. as he said, comcast should start charging me actually using my router?

and you'll say, no its a phone thing, its own departament, its own bundles, bla, bla, bla. if my phone has a feature that has nothing to do with you network infrastructure, onmy data, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHARGE ME.

damn it man, really?

they are exercising their rights...to unfairly charge the consumer. well then, that is a right that only U.S. has!
[General Topics] VeryCoolAlan:
[UPDATE] T-Mobile 3G phones considered obsolete once merger comes!

What will you do?

This means the Vibrant will not work anymore in a year?

http://phandroid.com/2011/03/21/t-m...e-rendered-obsolete-by-att-merger/:cool::eek:

EDIT: Today T-Mobile updated their Q and A and they have mentioned that they have no plans of changing anything to make your phone "obsolete" (and they actually said 0bselete. ) during the 12 month process but in a year it will be up to att to decide what will happen
[General Topics] hkbladelawhk:
It would make more sense for them to stick with the faster speeds. But wasn't tmobile already working on LTE prior?

Hmm, I don't know. Tmobile was the only provider liked. Grr...
[General Topics] treyvaporizer:
Samsung vibrants will work on AT&T 3G. So that won't change. But yea other than that, the phone wont connect to other 3G networks. So yea I guess it would be obsolete
[General Topics] Sdobron:
I'll have a new phone in a year anyway...but "obsolete" is not the word.
[General Topics] funeralthirst:
small correction, vibrants work with the 1900 band, not 850. but att doesn't require both bands for 3g like tmob does.

and by the time the acquisition is complete the vibrant will be obsolete anyway....
[General Topics] zer0nine:
Fixed that link for you.
[General Topics] SLG951:
Hopefully by the time the merger or if the merger happens I will have a QUAD core phone HAHA :D
[General Topics] Cartigan:
Which doesn't mean a ton of people won't be using the Vibrant and a LARGE number of OTHER obsolete phones.

We can only pray that the feds refuse the merger on anti-trust grounds.
[General Topics] Step666:
Here in the real world it's 4 but according to you it's some sort of conspiracy against paying customers...

Like everything else you've written in this thread, that analogy has little-to-no grip on reality.

AT&T aren't stealing anything from their customers - if anything, the customers have been stealing from AT&T in that they have been using a service they haven't paid for.

Do you expect to be able to send texts without paying for them? Or make calls? It's no different for tethering, despite all your whining.

The situation is simply this...

A number of customers on AT&T have a web bundle that specifically states that it is only for use on their phones,

not for tethering

.

They have, however, been using it for tethering.

Now AT&T have contacted these customer to inform them they are aware of the unauthorised use and if they continue to do so, they will need to pay the necessary charges.

There is nothing else to it, every argument you've tried to present is

wrong

and the more you keep repeating yourself, the more ridiculous you look.

edit:

Fairly charging customers is a right every company has when those customers

have signed a contract saying they agree to those charges

.
[General Topics] Black6spdZ:
3g,4g,LTE... a future 10g at 1Gbps.. what's the F'n point with a 2GB data cap?!
[General Topics] shreddintyres:
Exactly this is one of the things that bothers me the most about this dumb merger that and the incredible decrease in customer service. If I had wanted shoddy service to start I would have gotten at&t to start

Sent from my AXURA powered voodoo infused Categorically Worthless Vibrant
[General Topics] Blkegk:
Please please reject this merger for the love of god. Att is satans network.
[General Topics] hkbladelawhk:
Yea, that 2gb data cap is pretty lame. Sure, T-Mobile capped us at 5gb, but at least we weren't charged for going over. Kinda pathetic if you ask me. And as it is, $30 for data a month is a bit much, once ATT comes in, its probably gonna be something stupid, like $50.

There's gotta be something we can do....burn down their office? lol. jk.

So who on earth is the other alternative? Sprint sucks, Verizon (meh), ATT Sucks. Umm. SOL?

GRRR!!! :mad:

Edit: I looked up Verizon, Their price is pretty similar to what I'm paying for T-Mobile. I just love the idea of sim cards. Anyone know what Verizon caps at?
[General Topics] xriderx66:
What? I'm asking for a f'in refund lol.
[General Topics] blushrts:
I'm in the same boat as you. Bought a Nexus S full retail in Dec., put $50 on account, just had to refill the other day. I have wifi access 95% of the time, and buy an occasional day pass when I need it. In about 5 more months I'm ahead of the game vs spending $60 to $70 a month or more on a cell plan and being locked into a contract. We're screwed.
[General Topics] Blackhawk163:
I don't mind Sprint, They aren't that bad. Now if you buy your handsets outright like I do, once Sprint gets a WP7 device like the HD 7, I'm going to Boost. $59 a month no contract and unlimited everything, plus it shrinks to about $35 after a year. I can't hate on that.
[General Topics] darkanubispr:
send me the link via priv because i have one moto cliq
[General Topics] Sdobron:
They would correct the network to operate with both 3G bands in the event of a merge...it's not getting rejected...
[General Topics] Blackhawk163:
good stuff, will use when Sprint gets a Hi speed WP7 device. I'm currently dating one of their corporate sales persons, she keeps asking me if I want her to get me a discount. I decline as I don't want her to potentially get in trouble.
[General Topics] heygrl:
T-Mobile doesn't require use of "2 bands" - They're only using ONE right now. 1700MHz is not any different from PCS.. they both have different up and downlink frequencies.

Your phones will still work after the merger. They're not going to shut the light switch off and turn all AWS 3G phones into EDGE phones.. get a grip. 1 star and well deserved
[General Topics] eminembdg:
+1 on that one star rating!
[General Topics] what25:
I agree. 2GB cap is BS if they think they can make it last for another 5 years, based on THEIR OWN GRAPH about data usage increasing 10fold during that time.

Currently, I think Verizon's unlimited. Maybe a softcap at 5gb, but not sure. I have read however that they will start tiered pricing soon too, with the release of more 4g phones. I just hope theirs will be more reasonable, although that maybe wishful thinking.

I wouldn't mind Sprint. Atleast their CEO came up in an ad and said 'unlimited is unlimited' according to a definition he looked up in a dictionary. And a Sprint Nexus S seems more appealing with this news.

And on a side note, it may seem as if Sprint would be the new partner for future nexus phones if T-mo goes away.
[General Topics] Longcat14:
Yeah, what the guy said 2 posts above me.

They wouldn't shut off 3G on the AWS band because they need it for the LTE rollout, they'd either modify the towers to use 3G and LTE, or modify their own towers to emit 3G on the AWS band.

And even if they did, you shouldn't worry, since AT&T uses the 850/1900 bands in most places, and the Vibrant can get AT&T 3G on the 1900 band since AT&T doesn't require both bands.
[General Topics] Androidboy35961:
I wouldn't mind my carrier buying T- Mobile it's good for me.
[General Topics] All~G1:
Class action lawsuit???
[General Topics] SykesAT:
Think the first step is call, write or email T-Mo, ATT, FCC, DOJ and your elected officials.

This merger will have massive oversight and regulatory hurdles to overcome. The terms of the deal just show that. The price ATT is paying is more than t-mo is worth, and look at the size of the default payment, 8%, that's huge.

It should be possible, with enough public outcry, to stop the merger. There are more than enough valid reasons to object with.
[General Topics] Longcat14:
Read what's in bold.

Looks like we may not have to pay for replacement phones.
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Sign the petition against Tmo/ATT merge

Hey T-mobile customers if you don't want to be part of AT&T and pay them higher rate after your contact ends than sign please.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/
[General Topics] shady503403:
signed. :)

sad thing is.. i work for att.. not by choice.. and honestly. there garbage..
[General Topics] funeralthirst:
what? unless it's changed, tmob uses 1700 for up, 2100 for down, meaning both are required for 3g.
[General Topics] Avirex64:
Signed, sucks if it happens
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
I know... It really sucks.
[General Topics] D623:
I just submitted mine. Well see how mine goes
[General Topics] ACHILLES R32:
signed, i would hate for the merger to be approve. I have a great deal on my 5 line family plan with T-Mobile.
[General Topics] Nicgraner:
Read the forum bro we have an unbelievable amount of threads already complaining about this. Plus a petition won't help only the FCC shooting down the deal will we're talking almost 40 billion bucks here. A few people signing a petition won't help.
[General Topics] klmsu19:
Petitions, lol.

272 people or BILLIONS of $ in revenue, millions of customers, and assets (spectrum and towers). Wow tough decision ;)
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Oh sorry... Aha we can always try you know
[General Topics] jdm4u:
yea and to slap us all in the face they'll hand us iPhones lol. FML.
[General Topics] VeryCoolAlan:
If this is correct they will probably replace the phones with prepaid ones. Lol

Its all about money now adays well for att as t-mobile is really great on pricing and customer service
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Lol. We can always try aha. Well anyways after my contract is up I will have to escape AT&T again. I left them and went to T-Mobile and here they are again ahaha
[General Topics] JonnieLasVegas:
I'm going to sign it, but like the guy said at the at&t store to me today. We got you guys and there's nothing you can do about it! It was half-joking because I was griping to him about the takeover. He said they'll be pushing their policies to the T-Mobile stores immediately if not sooner. At least that's what at&t were telling their employees.
[General Topics] epsix:
yup anything will help ..
[General Topics] Longcat14:
Better be an iPhone 4, I'll sell that ****er on eBay for $600 and get an Android phone. ROFL

We'll most likely get a refurb/new captivate, since they do have a Galaxy S phone.
[General Topics] Nicgraner:
I'm not trying to be the bad guy I'm just saying if anything our coverage will get better and tmo says prices will stay the same. So stay optimistic :)
[General Topics] KCRic:
Worth a shot. From what I can tell with the news, a few FCC officials have spoken against it. Not sure what the percentage is though.
[General Topics] negroplasty:
Way ahead of you, throw it in your signature too.
[General Topics] lilazngoku8:
I agree with Nicgraner, our network speeds WILL multiply, also THIS is for a fact. T-Mobile will forever stay as an independent service provider. (That's what their site said.) The only difference that is going to happen is the service, and networks are combined. So when you log on your phone and stuff it will say T-Mobile, not AT&T. So there is absolutely no reason to petition or strike. Believe me.
[General Topics] Dr.8820:
as i've posted before, even if this deal fails, how are we supposed to feel about t-mobile now...knowing they'll sell us down the river to the highest bidder?
[General Topics] Cartigan:
The only people who would get their phones replaced are those on contract and only if they throw a huge tantrum and threaten to drop the carrier.
[General Topics] TrueYears:
why do they need my address for lol
[General Topics] zeorai:
If I remember correctly, the last thing I read one of the att execs stated that att will use 1700 for their LTE deployment. It's not the phone I'm concerned about it's my reasonable unlimited data plan with free tethering. Att only offers a 2 gb/mo plan and wants to charge you for tethering on top of it. I usually go just a tad over 2 gb every month.

Att is happy to sell you 2 gb/mo, but they also charge you based on how you use said 2 gb. I wonder how long we'll be able to keep using EvenMorePlus after the next 12 months, it's a decent deal. $55 mo for 500 min+unlimited text and data.
[General Topics] duboi97:
Signed...the only reason I know about this is because I saw somebodies comment on www.tmonews.com lol I don't even have a g2...I have a Samsung Vibrant but I guess this is worth a shot...:D
[General Topics] J-Hop2o6:
YES!! thats great news.
[General Topics] Nicgraner:
Yes! someone who understands :D
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Aha let's see what happens.
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
As long as its not AT&T.... Had a horrible experience had to pay 1000+ bucks just because I didn't know I was using roaming.
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Lol don't know. The people from the T-mobile forum created it
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Already did haha