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[General Topics] quicksite:
oh. my. god.

Such creatures have to exist at XDA? God, I thought the intelligence filter would have long ago left you in AOL land where you belong. Every item is so ridiculously generalized and asserted as though fact...

Didn't take away freedoms or rights -- yeah like a woman's right to choose, aww **** that ****.

Who exactlty are these Conserv who did NOT bail out wall street: NAME THEM, you moron with personal RAM of 64k

Rachel Maddow -- it's fine to differ with her political views, but you;d be hard pressed to find anyone to pit against her Rhodes Scholar mind, and poise and politeness in interviewing people... something unheard of in this modern age other than from her. She alone is resetting the bar. But it's fine to hate her. But your comments ABOUT her are stupid, that's all.

In any case, AT&T initiated domestic spying on all Americans, and it continues to this day. Sure why not, again, no abridgment of freedom, even though your boys had a wet dream in wanting to grant them retroactive immunity for doing so, rather than let a legal system run its course -- a legal system stacked with your padres.

At least I managed to keep AT&T in my post, thus keeping it relevant as to why this deal stinks. Meanwhile what's to become of T-Mobile babe. ****, what if she got pregnant. Yep, you guys would force her (no loss of freedoms) to carry that child, your American way! God Bless you!
[General Topics] mrsbelpit:
I will absolutely die of shock if they bring back unltd data for $30. Rest assured, they don't care about Tmo customers. This is a way to expand their network. everything else is just gravy.

ETA: quicksite, ty for bringing up the ATT selling out their cutomers to the Bush Administration, I'm not sure many remember that.
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
After reading around today, Sprint is making a big case to the FCC about this deal, so it sounds like as long as they keep pushing, there may be hope for you Tmo customers.
[General Topics] treyvaporizer:
Wait, so they are going to replace our phones?
[General Topics] mrsbelpit:
^I predict that they will not do it without bending you right the **** over in some way. (ie, signing a contract with their terms and pricing) Best to get an intl Galaxy S II or something and use it on ATT if you plan on staying with them
[General Topics] treyvaporizer:
What about if and when they release the Galaxy S II for the US carriers, would I be able to get that?
[General Topics] AntonJart:
If merger happens, I will change to sprint I guess. I got only 2 month on my contract, and been on the even more plus plan for past 6 month )

Sent from my HTC Leo powered by HyperDroidGBX
[General Topics] mrsbelpit:
Well, if they release one for tmo that supports the 850/1900 bands you could use it on ATT. If ATT releases one, you could obv use that as well. The GSII international is a sure thing, though.
[General Topics] icy56:
But is it even legal for them to do that because its like not honoring our contracts by completely cutting off our data plans and forcing us to sign a new contract for a working phone.
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
They'll probably work on a workaround so people can't break contract.
[General Topics] mrsbelpit:
Also, remember that ATT doesn't really care about keeping you as a customer. They want the Tmobile network first and foremost. And since most people will just go with it, they don't care about the few million who are going to give them a hard time.
[General Topics] rr5678:
Let me make this simple for you.

If AT&T's spectrum (GSM 850/1900) was so good, then they would not need T-Mobile's spectrum (AWS 1700/2100) to try to improve their own network. Nor would they need the towers. Nor would there be big effing holes in their service within 50 square miles. Nor would their network be as slow as rocks. Oh, that's right. The network is probably slow from all the throttling and wiretapping going on within AT&T HQ. Say hello to the NSA. And how can I make an "even bigger moron"? I'd need 2 people for that.

I'm done with this argument.

We can only hope but we all know that those money-hungry pigs in the government only care about the money.
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
IMO, AT&T is just focusing on keeping their current customers happy, if you want to call it that and using T Mobile as a crutch at the expense of their customers, etc.
[General Topics] dejavu157:
this is horrible news! ATT prices are out of this world!
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Like I said before my friend... We can always try
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Aha... Let's all hope fcc doesn't approve of it
[General Topics] lude219:
Oh hey, you've finally did your homework and can properly differentiate between network and spectrum.

Judging by the bolded part, you're still a dumbass. Seriously? Why would AT&T need more cell tower? Yea, I don't think people need to read any more of your dumbass statements. You've clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Sorry... I should of searched
[General Topics] Step666:
You started them all yourself.
[General Topics] rr5678:
Judging by the bolded part, you're a ****ing idiot. Of COURSE AT&T needs more cell towers. Them not having enough cell towers is why THERE IS BARELY ANY RECEPTION / CALLS DROP REPEATEDLY. You clearly need to read up on this stuff.
[General Topics] samagon:
Truth
[General Topics] VeryCoolAlan:
So I'm probably staying with att because I don't like not having a sim and you know if my phone dies I will have another laying around
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Hmm?
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Am on the other hand will leave once my contract ends... I left AT&T to go to T-Mobile
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
So true... They just want the towers
[General Topics] VeryCoolAlan:
If it wasn't for iphone att would be nothing
[General Topics] Pinepig:
Not really, how many towers do you think 39b would build, they wanted the frequencies that Tmo owned, that's where the money went and what they wanted.
[General Topics] nick109:
this is a good time to stock up on any contracts and offers from T-mobile, go get those high-end phones like the G2X for cheap and with a 2 yr contract you would be in safer hands assuming the deal is allowed to go through

also some devices support both carriers for 3G (and even 4G by the upcoming G2X), so don't be afraid of this BS about having to change phones. The only ones affected would be mostly the mytouch and various other exclusive t-mobile devices. And even if you had to change, it wouldn't happen before your contract (or anyone's contract) ran out, since it has to be honored or some sort of deal will be made

also in 2 yrs you'll likely be on a new device, hopefully a killer wp7 from nokia for instance ;)

what any tmo customer should be worried about is future pricing, features (like unlimited web) and customer service, of course! att can't ever beat any of that
[General Topics] BLacKEndROid:
My evaluation of the ATT/Tmobile merger and whats going to happen to us TMOUS customers

Everything will stay the same for the next 12-24months we will not see changes until after government agencies give the OK then it will take approx. 12 months for the merger to complete... then we're screwed! TMOUS will be resolved plans will change, data caps implemented, prices will skyrocket, crappy customer service, by law att only has to honor contracts that are still current when att takes over so once your contract expires you'll either convert or leave attmobile. Oh i almost forgot those of you like i that are on the even more plus plan you know the cheaper non contract plans yup there is no room for us at att either and those are my cons

My pros are increased signal strength, increased coverage area oh and more phones to choose from since att will be the majority leader in the industry att will get more phones.

so in my personal opinion every wireless handset user is screwed no matter the wireless company you choose from. for now im very happy with my glacier rooted and rom'd and hopefully a Pyramid, a G2x or even a G-Slate. I have absolutely no complaints about my signal strength or coverage area i travel the us and when i have needed to make a call i could every time my phone is already faster than a iphone and att period. so the only thing i could hope for is LTE and even with TMO's financial deficit i think that LTE would eventually come to TMOUS.

to the petitioners we probably wont change anything by signing but i see where doing something is better than doing nothing.
[General Topics] treyvaporizer:
Eh its not so bad

Well I'm not too terribly upset. When this is all said and done, I will probably just get a Galaxy S II on contract. Since they will be available even though my contract is not up. And maybe all this hsdpa and hsupa will be sorted out and we could get some fast speeds. But the 4G speeds that I am seeing now are just terrible... Hope they fix that.
[General Topics] otter5:
http://www.infowars.com/strangling-of-the-free-internet-begins/
[General Topics] caffeinated chris:
btw, just some inside info for all those who keep talking about AT&T having 850 MHz and 1900 MHz bands...

"AT&T values its customers and continues to invest in the latest technology and customer service to provide the highest quality of service possible. Today, (Dec 2nd, 2010) AT&T provides service using GSM and UMTS technologies operating in the 1900 MHz and 850 MHz frequency bands. GSM is the older technology, and AT&T has not promoted GSM 1900 MHz only devices in recent years.

The number of customers who use GSM 1900 MHz only devices has steadily declined. AT&T anticipates shutting down the 1900 MHz portion of the GSM network in dual band (850 MHz and 1900 MHz GSM) markets in the 2010/2011 timeframe, and will begin that process by turning down 1900 MHz service in about 30 markets in 2010.

AT&T will be contacting our customers with GSM 1900 MHz only devices in the affected areas over the next few months to alert them about the network turndown, and for customers with 1900 MHz only devices, AT&T will be offering a new device."

and yes, that came from AT&T itself. Sorry I forgot to mention this a few months ago.. haha =X
[General Topics] S.S.Gohan:
no, you can only get one discount on ur acct at a time u cant combine the two if u get 10% off it comes down to the one that has more benifits
[General Topics] BigE:
Be really carefully saying you are grandfathers in, when swapping a phone. My daughter got a used BB off EBay, and as soon she placed her SIM in, her dataplan was hijacked by AT$T (no, I use $ for a reason) and got both limited to 2G (was unlimited) and price went up from $10 to $25 cause the IEMI of the used BB was once AT$T listed. No contract signed..

When I complained about it (it's $180/year expense on a 16 years old girl ) and even after going back to her old phone, I was able to reduce it back to $10/month, but the 2G cap stays . Unbelievable !

I have 5 lines with them, and treated like dirt. My bills are over $3,000 per year, and I have no solution, as I must have GSM as I travel a lot..
[General Topics] Androidboy35961:
hahahaha!!!
[General Topics] vbetts:
Really doubt this is true. Gotta realize that there are still tons of T-mobile subscribers out there, and AT&T couldn't afford to screw so many people like that.
[General Topics] caffeinated chris:
are you serious?? Did you give them the IMEI number or did they just detect it? because half the time you have to call in and give it to them before they even notice
[General Topics] VeryCoolAlan:
OP updated

If anyone can post the link to the tmobile q and a ill post in the op
[General Topics] lqaddict:
Once you pop in a SIM to a smartphone recognized by att they will put the data plan on regardless if you want it or not.

As far AWS spectrum is concerned, att will use it for their LTE deployment.

We still have at least 9 months ahead of us before the merger materializes, if ever. I guess I will be shopping for a new carrier once xmas rolls around.

Sent from my Bionix powered Vibrant
[General Topics] lainvalenajr:
Yes... Better to try. Well I want to see what happens. I really don't Like AT&T. Horrible experience
[General Topics] :
Sometimes, I don't know the credibility of the stories of people.. but then again, it's AT&T ;)
[General Topics] DPMAce:
bah, I just bought my HD2 too. I hate At&t.

I'm thinking I will switch to Sprint if T-mobile becomes too unbearable in the future.

But I'm loving my HD2 too much right now.
[General Topics] tony5051:
i just bought an HD2 also. this is great phone
[General Topics] tony5051:
I got to try this:d
[General Topics] tony5051:
yeah. same here
[General Topics] tony5051:
good. i'm going to try this
[General Topics] Droiddinho:
Been on this deal for months... great deal.
[General Topics] caffeinated chris:
As for the 1900 MHz being dropped out or if they are using it for their LTE is beyond me. I work for AT$T and this is an email I received back on december 2nd that i just came across while we were talking about this saying we are completely fasing it out.

As for the SIM card thing, I dont know exactly how true that is considering I have seen people call in who have picked themselves up a Blackberry and were still somehow getting unl data for $10 on a family plan because we didnt realize they had a smartphone. Me being the cool representative (knowing how crappy it can be to be forced to have "smartphone data" which is exactly the same data only with a cap compared to a basic or quick messaging device) I left the data they had on there $10 unl data and warned them to be careful and not tell us they have a smartphone or they'd be forced to switch it. Its a policy we have that we have to obide by... and i definitely put myself at risk by breaking that policy, but honestly, if my supervisor here at AT$T is going to try to write me up for saving someone money, then so be it. I'm not going to rip off a customer because AT$T says I have to.

So yes, I know first hand that is not always the case. and AT$T customer service may suck, but im not out to get anyone or screw anyone over, I'm an XDA-arian who just collect the paychecks. and I try to help people as they come. i have left ppls data plans a few times and have yet to get in trouble for it.

also to add to that I have also seen a few ppl with smartphones on the PAYGO plans. again, they picked up their own phone and if they dont tell AT$T which phone they have when they activate with a rep or give a different IMEI number it wont show on their acct which phone they actually have.

and also let me add that I may work for AT$T, but I am a very very happy customer with my Tmobile Vibrant haha and am a little worried about this AT$T buying Tmobile deal
[General Topics] caffeinated chris:
haha i made that mistake also. sold it and got a vibrant. just throw CM rom on there for the hd2. it makes it much more bearable hahaha
[General Topics] D623:
I just got accepted.. definitely works.
[General Topics] Black6spdZ:
Found this bit of info trying to answer my own question and have see others wondering the same

"If AT&T is able to complete its purchase of T-Mobile, AT&T plans to reconfigure T-Mobile's high frequency wireless spectrum to handle faster 4G service.

But the problem is that T-Mobile currently offers 3G service on that same chunk of spectrum.

And 3G phones cannot connect to 4G signals.

In other words, when that transformation happens, all those T-Mobile 3G phones and USB modems will become pokey 2G devices.

How do T-Mobile customers get around that issue? Simple! Buy new AT&T 3G (or 4G, if you're ready to upgrade) devices which run on AT&T's own 3G frequencies.

Now, that switch is probably a couple years or more down the road, since it will take about a year just for the AT&T/T-Mobile acquisition to be approved and completed.

But assuming the deal does go through, every T-Mobile 3G device (including, presumably, the 3G HSPA+ devices that T-Mobile is selling as 4G) now has a fixed date in its future when it will no longer be usable as a 3G device."
[General Topics] dani26286:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/wireless-community-to-fcc-on-att-buyout-of-tmobile/

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-General/bd-p/General

this troll states:

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

- :eek:

....it's him again...:mad: :mad: :mad:

-:cool:

told ya i aint goin nowwhere :D
[General Topics] Auzeras:
an interesting move by AT&T, of course they are just getting more network bands. Not at all interested in the other company
[General Topics] malickie:
For all those T-Mobile customers who HATE ATT which I would be one of them considering what is most likely going to happen is that ATT once it has aquired T-Mobile will be jacking prices through the roof of their current plans regardless of what they had on T-Mobile because there will be new contract signing. Anyway chech out Simple Mobile they are using the same Towers as T-Mobile and they have good prices I mean an Unlimited EVERYTHING plan is $60 just something to think about. They don't sell phones but if you have a phone that runs on the T-Mobile bands you can just bring your own phone over..... http://www.mysimplemobile.com/ and no I don't work for these guys just overheard it talked about.
[General Topics] Phateless:
Checked out their website and they cover me. Requesting unlock code from T-mobile now.
[General Topics] wakestrong:
why so fast to jump ship?
[General Topics] wakestrong:
Honestly I can see this going either way. It might make it cheaper to put in the lte lines and allow At&t to pass it on to the consumer. It could also just be market canabalism and bad for the consumer too.

At&T says no contract changes for Tmobile customers?
[General Topics] Phateless:
Not jumping ship yet, just getting ready.

I just read the faqs. No changes FOR NOW but they clearly state that older equipment will be phased out over time.
[General Topics] barc0deguy:
is it true that at&t bought T mobile?? i am from India just curious about what i am seeing on the web
[General Topics] mokobe:
Thanks, will try :D
[General Topics] quicksite:
oh. my God.

this sounds too good to be true!

Yet everything I read so far squares up.

could this possibly be the Hollywood movie rescue it sounds like?

XDAers --- PLEASE FIND THE HOLES! Because this us exactly the big "counterplay" I have been waiting for for years. And if its rock solid I will put major portal marketing behind it, to help break the monopolistic paradigm and return some form of choice to marketplace.

IS this too good to be true? will they he around? what are their leasing agreements for towers qne spectrum?
[General Topics] quicksite:
Ha ha! Thanks, I needed a laugh!! Funniest thing i've heard since "bi-winning".. Ha ha, HA HA, AT&T passing savings on to customers!

ha ha, what'll you knuckle-heads come up with next?
[General Topics] mrsbelpit:
They want the spectrum and the towers, it can take years for approval to build towers, but I agree the spectrum is the main thing.
[General Topics] tribalartgod:
My question is this... how many of you ACTUALLY read the WHOLE article?

I'm not happy with this merge/buyout either, but it's nothing to be worried about. AT&T stated that they already have plans in motion for those on contract to get their phones upgraded to one that WILL work on the network. They also state that they aren't just gonna "cut off" 3G. This will be a process that takes many years.

Retail value on the G1 is STILL $299 brand new. Not too shabby for the "Original Gangsta" of Android, as I call it.

Basically the way it would work is like this... You are set for an upgrade... Your upgrade would get you a certain "discounted" price on a new phone... But wait...You are also a T-Mobile customer.. So now, your current phone will get you even more money off of that new phone...

Solution:

This is a change that has been stated to be "at least 2 years away." ...So take $5 a week, which you WON'T MISS, and put it in an envelope... In 2 years, if you haven't spent any of that money, you will have $520 towards a new phone. PLUS whatever your phone at that time will get you in credit.

You already see what Android has become in 2 years... imagine another 2 years from now.
[General Topics] dani26286:
there u go. this was one of the alternatives i was talking about. hello simple mobile! u about to make some gooooooodddd business!!!!

I AM A TROLL, AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE. WHAT I DONT APPROVE IS AT&T WAYS OF MAKING BUSINESS BY ABUSING THERE CONSUMERS.

EVEN THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES STATE THAT, RIGHT HERE, AND NOT ONLY"
[General Topics] Phateless:
Just got off a chat with T-mobile regarding sim unlock. At the end when they asked if there was anything else they could do today I said, "not unless you can stop at&t from buying out t-mobile. :)"
[General Topics] Jmike85:
the official release to att employees

The info released to art employees states that employees are not to speculate on the specificsof the buy out. It is sighted to take about 12 months to complete. They haven't released any specifics on contracts, phones, or prices. I will keep u posted
[General Topics] dani26286:
hahaha...god one phateless. keep up the good work. if we dont care about ourselves, no one does.

thank u for the info jmike85!

att is starting to get chills on their backs, or so this relese lets us to believe.
[General Topics] Phateless:
Hopefully the outpouring of concern from customers will cause everyone to rethink this move.
[General Topics] quicksite:
right on...! you gotta feel for the T-mobile employees though. They're probably all severely distressed about this in multiple ways:

1) no doubt: Many many will lose their jobs. and the way these things go, they are ALL left in the dark. They'll be the last to know anything, as international corporate greed just bulldozes over them as expendable pawns. Just one month ago they had their massive sale over valentines day weekend, and you know back then there were huge team-building exercises and preparations.

then the flip of a coin and their lives are all in upheaval. how many people just quit other steady jobs to switch and to work for T-Mobile? we don't know.

but they have to maintain their brand experience down to very end ... while everyday they'll be personally dealing with their own doubt and uncertainty about future... and worse, THEY WILL CATCH ALL THE FLAK from angry and confused customers while exec mgmt with golden parachutes have nothing to lose, no stress.

I'd hate to be in their shoes because generally they've been doing everything right. yet they have failed. all these years many of us have wondered about lack of wisdom of t-mobile exec decision making in USA.. they almost NEVER carried the high end phones, generally keeping everything average to build an average customer base.. when they should have owned the power user market for past 8 years. speaks volumes that past 2 phones I bought were out of network.... and I couldn't even use their high speed data... but they refused to carry 2 of the Breakout hit phones of 2009 and 2010 --- the HERO and the DESIRE. instead making dubious deals with google that backfired and handcuffed them.

so... I wont chuckle at their having to end calls with the required scripted language.

BUT HERE'S MY REQUEST!

WOULD YOU START A NEW THREAD, something like:

OFFICIAL "SIMPLE MOBILE" CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE THREAD: New GSM carrier, alt to AT&TMO"

I called their corporate office this morning and told them: this is the largest targeted community of GSM Smartphone users of which the majority buy non-branded, non-carrier phones .. exactly their market... And we are not happy with Att tmo merger.

this could turn into a lightening rod, so it needs its own thread for customers to report their experiences.

thank you!
[General Topics] dani26286:
this is our goal, phateless, if im not mistaken.

as u say, hopefully higher ups notice, and put a stop to it, or, so everybody gets happy, apply appropriate fees, with no bogus extra ones!

quicksite, alrhough u are right, xds wont allow it! its just the way it is! do it yourself, and u will see...and if not, then im mistaken...wich i hope i will be, for our own sakes!