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[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] pac213:
The question I have is, If this key is legit, can we expect some custom kernels? Maybe the one without DSI errors? Or it's still impossible to do that?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zamana:
From XDA itself:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/keys-for-motorola-phones-bootloader-finally-hacked/
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Rotundjere:
Hail to the masters who create this thingies :)

Give beers to them ^^
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] tegezan:
i hope this for real.....
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Rotundjere:
just hack your device :D

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[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Soy_Filipo:
well, it appears its only vaporware, nadlabak and clockworkmod just said so
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fjfalcon:
http://milestone.bekaakut.de/index.php?date=2011-03-21

Just read it...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] gemini002:
Yup.its real ps3 droid isnin.on action too

Sent from Milestone using iceandfire Cm7 Mod
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] SophT:
DMCA violation and (possible) copyright infringement if they claim the key is copyrighted - which is exactly what SONY is gunning for with geo-hot.

Just hope the devs don't live in the US and then it's not a problem. ;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] haroldz123:
until there r more than 3 ppl (developers) can confirm the key, then we just had to wait...

they probably will "accidental leaked" it, perhaps in china or eastern europe to avoid copyright infringement
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] TheSSJ:
Dunno how much this is worth but I read here (http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...re-cracked-custom-recovery-roms-now-possible/) the following phrase:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] RifatFAT:
If keys are real, I think Motorola is involved to their appearance after failing to produce a normal 2.2.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] JonesWTF:
If this was an elaborate hoax, why would Motorola send out a C&D order? Surely they wouldn't care?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] TheSSJ:
Let's just wait a little longer - we waited so much already, a few days more or less do not seem too annoying for me...

but check freemymoto's twitter page - they are already working on it.

http://twitter.com/FreeMyMoto
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] latino147:
I think Motorola should shut the *BEEP* up!!! They have made a phone that doesn't do what it should do: enabling me to use it when I need it! Instead of crashing and rebooting from day one (with the original Eclair!).

In my opinion they failed to deliver what they promised so they should back off and let the real geniuses make this phone acceptable for the many buyers.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
Maybe that C&D is included in the HOAX, someone have evidence that Motorola have send a C&D?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] lvcio:
So, Then?

So, what it means???

i have been without internet access since thursday:o:o:o
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
nothing yet, because it isn't confirmed yet it is working.

but if it's working we could optimize the kernel and get native 2.3 kernel support
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
so maybe we are gonna have to wait for confirmation till april 1st^^

mehhh i would love to see this real - no other way than be patient anyway
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
Yeah, we need to wait a bit longer :(

When I read this post this morning I was really happy, but now waiting for it to be confirmed!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] TheSSJ:
I fear that someone has to sacrifize a Milestone to test it...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] AirLancer:
So what can we do for revenge in case of a possible hoax :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Passa91:
I'm struggling to reconcile my stinging cynicism with the reality that there would be little reason to make up something like this.

Time will tell I guess. Not going to hold my breath. Or at least I'll try not to.. at any rate, the disappointment of this being fake will probably push me over the edge and make me replace my Motorola Defy.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] caioketo:
So if we dont want to wait, how can we test it???
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Dookie1302:
I was planning on following Motorola's advice and ditch my milestone for a Better Model.

Not some Pseudo Open Source Wannabes like Motorola.

Now lets see.

I just might be able to wait for the right phone to come along.

I'll still be upgrading from my Milestone when i can get my hands on a phone with a 1 GHz Dual Core Procc and 1 GB of RAM [With a qwerty Keyboard]
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] embeem:
Or, Motorola's legal team has absolutely no clue what the real key is and sent a C&D letter as a precaution.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] AirLancer:
With all the competence that Motorola has shown so far, thats is very plausible.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] xploited:
Follow these guys for news on the leaked RSA keys and if they work or not:

http://twitter.com/FreeMyMoto

Latest news from them:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] SlowlyDead:
The easiest and most secure way to clarify the private key would be signing an official rom by moto with this private key. If moto signatur and that one generated by that private key are the same, this is real.

So there is no need sacraicing a milestone ;-)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Aexel:
Yea, the public key (like its name says) is already known. So if the private key is for real, you can sign anything you want to - the keys should match.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] caioketo:
So why no1 do the sign to see if the keys matchs????

it takes too long for sign some rom???
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
Maybe because it can brick your device if it isn't real. You want to be a test person?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Aexel:
I think there's no need at all to test it by flashing it to a milestone device. Like already sayed, you can sign a original rom and compare the signature to the original one from motorola - they should be equal.

In my opinion the only reason why noboy tested it, is that there is nothing to test because it's a fake :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
Lets hope there is need to test it, want I really want it to be real! I want a better kernel than Motorola delivers (DSI errors, random reboots)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fuggii:
They can test on my phone i dont give a f... if it will brick or not
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Aexel:
You're right, they can have mine too. Even if it's the real key - i don't care about. The Milestone is outdated and dead. I am going to buy me a new smartphone the next weeks or months anyway (don't know which one, but no Motorola device).
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
PM one of the developers:

- Kabaldan/Nadlabak

- Ice&Fire

- 89Luca89

- Lalit79

- Azhad

- Skrylax_CZ

Maybe they have some information for you to test it. We all will be very pleased if you can confirm if it's real or not!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fuggii:
I'm say it for real if its device problem to check this key is real i can give my phone to test it
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] caioketo:
Someone plz test it, the guy gave his phone for it, why no1 interested in testing it like fast???
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] latino147:
hmmm, coincidence or what? Today of all days there was a similar announcement on the Experia forum that that bootloader was (almost) hacked too??

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1001308
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fjfalcon:
They all said that hoax...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fxandrei:
whaaat ?!!?!!?!?

they said that this is a hoax ?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zamana:
It seems that nobody cares and they are ignoring the information.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] pac213:
We are all skeptical until proven otherwise. If freeMyMoto confirms it, then I will believe it.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fuggii:
Form this I read on IRC no one confirms nothing, all asking but nobody gives a sensible response... i dont know meybe it is hoax...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] duchu:
Great so who should care about this issue? Pure pure....
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] xploited:
Just wait until tomorrow for FreeMyMoto confirmation.. geez... :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zamana:
If this is an hoax, who we should blame? nonelod? Or he just forwarded the information?

I can't see the point about this type of hoax. Next time nobody will give a **** about this subject...

#SAD, #VERYSAD
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Splog:
If it's a fake, FreeMyMoto will announce. Keep an eye on their twitter account. Everything else is just speculation at this point. Patience, gentlemen. :)

http://twitter.com/#!/freemymoto
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] amitmiz:
heres your answer:

http://twitter.com/clockworkmod/status/49667617329389568#

though it looks like he changed his mind then:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zamana:
I'm following FreeMyMoto since yesterday.

Thanks.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fxandrei:
what does it mean ?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] pac213:
All of saying it's fake doesn't have hard proof. Or maybe I'm wrong. But nenolod said that he transferred all info to freemymoto so they have to confirm it if it's worknig or not for the sake of the community. :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] amitmiz:
This is what "clockworkmod" said :

which means this is all was fake and the bootloader is not going to be hacked...

but we should still wait for FreeMyMoto..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] JonesWTF:
Mine is now useless to me because I can't get the sound working anymore. That's the only problem with it.

If someone throws together a rom and recovery using these keys, I'm more than happy to try it out on my Milestone.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] TheSSJ:
https://twitter.com/#!/nenolod/status/49639128924557312

But no proof without pictures or a little vid...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] kabaldan:
Nenolod has been talking a lot of bull**** in the past (back in October, about how he >almost< cracked the Motorola's bootloader - all based on nonsensical alleged similarity to some HTC code), and he's doing it again now.

Read this tweet: http://twitter.com/nenolod/status/49639128924557312

The conclusion from it is simple. All that nenolod needs to do to prove himself is to upload his modified, yet still bootable CDT (18kB). But he refused to do that with lame excuses (on IRC). That was the point that led to the Koush's tweet I linked in this thread before (Clockworkmod).

Nenolod keeps talking about Secure keystore, but there's no such thing on Motorola's phones. When asked about that, he explained that he means CDT. But CDT does not contain any keys (but yes, it specifies the types and addresses of signatures in other CGs).

Nenolod keeps talking about signing SBFs as the way to beat the bootloader, yet the sbf file itself is not signed at all (only the CGs inside it - and if you'd be able to sign the CGs, e.g. CDT, you wouldn't need a sbf file to flash it at all).

The published key is not even 256bit long...

I could go on, but I don't want to waste more time debating this nonsense (until I'm proven wrong ;) ).
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] alijs:
I'm ready, show me what to do & I'll do it.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] divicos:
so kabladan, you mean you're quite sure even this time it may be an hoax??
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] w4tchout:
Thanks for clarifying kabaldan.. I won't get my hopes up as this does indeed sound like a hoax. Let's see what the Freemymoto team comes up with :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] JonesWTF:
This is the only thing that's kind of pushing me to calling bull****. If he is right, however, I will be over the moon :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ashketchum:
It is certainly possible that this is a hoax or an April Fools' prank. There was a similar one on twitter last year just a few days before April 1st, when someone claimed that they had cracked the then newly released PC game Assassin's Creed II (which had Ubisoft's new DRM which required users to be constantly connected to the internet to play the game). They kept posting status updates about their "progress" and on April 1st they finally posted a download link which turned out to be some malware. They later claimed that it was harmless since it would be detected and deleted by antivirus software on the users' computers. People were pissed initially but soon forgot about that prank since a few days later someone really did manage to bypass Ubisoft's DRM.

Anyway, the "proved wrong", "proven wrong", etc. that koushik and kabaldan have been adding to their posts suggests that they are themselves not 100% sure whether this is fake or not. :p

And if it really is a prank, then it is a very well executed one since many major Android blogs have picked it up.

Also, I noticed that in nenolod's Sholes signing key leak explained page, he has mentioned Codegroup Descriptor Table as the full form of CDT (which just sounds right). Whereas, in this and-developers.com page about Milestone partitions, they have mentioned the full form as CDT as Code Description Table with a question mark at the end. From this, it seems like nenolod knows what he is talking about. As I said, if it is a prank, it certainly is a very well executed one. He certainly had me fooled for a while but now I am not so sure what to believe. I think there is still a slight chance that this is real but there is a greater chance that this is fake. I guess I will find out on April 1st (or maybe not, if he chickens out and decides to keep quiet).

If this is indeed a prank, nenolod should be prepared for an a** kicking. :p
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] SlowlyDead:
May has nothing to do with this, but all sbf by moto are down.

http://droid-world.bplaced.net/index.php?cat=Downloads&page=Milestone Firmware Dateien

All links from here to the official motorola page are down.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] drsouly:
awweessommme :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] wods:
It looks like this is true and gives me some hope. :p
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fxandrei:
hmmm ... this actually might be true...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] alijs:
this link is ok

http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] caioketo:
I think he said the MOTO's links. not mirrors!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] oTToToTenTanz:
True, Moto Downloads are down...also Motorola supposedly contacted him...if that is the case, this really might be true...I wait till someone confirms it..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] daria55:
the sbf files josted on the moto site has been down since the announcement of the froyo pre-release. i had a difficult time searching for an official 02 2.1 sbf.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Sörnäinen:
Sad to hear, but if it comes from you, there´s no much room for hope.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Caustic68:
This has made it on slashdot. Keeping my fingers crossed its for real.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] alijs:
thats totally true
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] msaraiva:
They are not down on https://rsdsecure.motorola.com/download/
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] nagi603:
For the "many droid outlets also said so" part: I really hope you don't think they do (or CAN for that matter, that would require a dispensable and easily replacable Milestone at hand) check these news. News propagation is without any real in-depth fact-checking for most "fast news" sites, or they would be late by days or weeks even.

The "seems to know about it" part: yes. Like so many snake-oil vendors. As you say, he seems to know about it. Unless you are deeper in the field than him, in which case he seems to be a fake.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ashketchum:
This is once again off topic but just wanted to say that perhaps ToneCheck should create plugins for forum software like vBulletin too. :rolleyes:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
That's offtopic, I think...........wtf.......why?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Sworkhard:
Clarification from Twitter
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] alijs:
excuse my ignorance, what this means?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Sörnäinen:
I saw it, too - but seriously: What is this about?

Nenolod obviously played a trick on the community, and now he is somehow shuffling around. So he didn´t find a solution, he just found a way to the solution? Or he found a solution, but he didn´t tell the people, but just handed them the "riddle" to be solved?

I am very disappointed by this fuss about nothing.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
From His Twitter now.

"Fingerprint" vs "Signature" only means the fact that it's 240-bit makes sense. That's not bad news, folks. My oops just caused confusion.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] nagi603:
A bit far example:

"fingerprint": you know what tests a car engine has to pass to qualify for a given car

"signature": you have the blueprint and a perfect factory.

The fingerprint is only good to check e.g. if the transmitted data is error-free. Knowing the fingerprint may enable you to check if your signature is valid, (still, multiple signatures will have the same (shorter) fingerprint, thus "may") but will not really help you get the much longer signature.

Yes, he is playing with the masses.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
according to his twitter hes testing on droid x first :( will this make any difference to milestone? as in will it work on both?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] winettou:
Uhm i was so happy when saw this post, and now... big big disappintment
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
Taken from the IRC chat ##pbf on freenode (FreemMyMoto)

OK, why he need to think about it? I'm going to think he is ****ing us!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] nagi603:
I'd say he needs to think if photoshopping it would be too much of a hassle :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] TheSpiritof69:
He's talking about the C&D he apparently got from Motorola...don't snip things out of context..

20:42:18 < birdman> can i see the c&d?

20:42:58 < nenolod> birdman: it is just a digitally signed email from motorola asking me to remove some tweets and some other files

20:43:20 < birdman> take a screenshot of it unsigned then xD

20:43:47 < nenolod> birdman: i'll think about it
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] drsouly:
#pbf is quite entertaining atm
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] TheSpiritof69:
It truly is...but so is #milestone-modding mocking about nenolod *g*
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] drsouly:
<nenolod> i think the bootloader signature verification is still worth looking into, even if my guess of what was going on was false

[21:07] <nenolod> because that made motorola jump in a way i have never seen them jump before

[21:09] <MimeNarrator> nenolod: it's more than just a "guess" no?

[21:09] <nenolod> MimeNarrator: an educated guess, but it was a guess, and it was an incorrect guess.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] oTToToTenTanz:
There it is...a hoax...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] drsouly:
[21:16] <switchgott> Can we hack it with nenolod methode?

[21:16] <nenolod> no

[21:16] <drsouly> there is no nenolod method .. i think ...

[21:16] <drsouly> it isn't working for any device

[21:16] <nenolod> correct
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
nenolodouche
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Lithoss:
Motorola wins.. Again :(
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/03...devices-keys-to-unlocking-the-bootloader.html makes it seem convincing
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
from @freemymoto s twitter

Potential bad news, folks. Awaiting confirmation...

NOOOO
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] :
Too late.........
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Sörnäinen:
It seems it really all is bla bla. Nobody needs that waste of time.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fuggii:
kabaldan predicted this a few hours earlier :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] TheSpiritof69:
Same as before...

Now nenolod's site says

This information is out-of-date.

Several assumptions were made about the bootloader which made the feasibility of this attack much less likely. Only chance of getting keys now is to factorize the public keys. Hash collision attack still seems possible.

Follow @freemymoto for other efforts.

http://nenolod.net/~nenolod/sholes-keyleak-explained.html
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Sörnäinen:
Most intriguing the title of the page: "Blah".

This is annoying.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] drsouly:
[21:49] <jpullen> yfrog.com/h2l8spp

[21:50] <nenolod> jpullen: lul

[21:50] <nenolod> jpullen: so true

[21:50] <nenolod> jpullen: 100% true, all true

[21:50] <nenolod> just like cvpcs saying CM7 coming to droid x in 15 seconds

[21:50] <nenolod> ;)

[21:50] <whatsinaname> Amazing how it gets your hopes up when you hear the boot is going to be unlocked. I was really having a good day untill now.

[21:51] <nenolod> moral: pestering people results in massive trollage

[21:51] <drsouly> -.-

[21:51] <jpullen> You all understand the reaction is what he wanted, any moaning and you are feeding him

[21:51] <Kicker22004> Im beginning to think u just like atention...ill be ignoring anything about the dx from u now

[21:51] <nenolod> jpullen: actually, the reaction i want is for people to boycott motorola and htc until they push software freedom

[21:52] <jpullen> nenolod their are better ways to accomplish that goal

[21:52] <drsouly> for shure

[21:52] <nenolod> jpullen: oh yes, i agree

[21:52] <nenolod> jpullen: in this case though i wanted some people who were bothering me to **** off :P

[21:52] <nenolod> jpullen: except it got blown all out of hand
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] drsouly:
what a jerk -.-
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mcdevtingz:
where does he live? if hes in my area ill mash him up
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Sörnäinen:
*lol*

He brags about having an own Wikipedia entry here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nenolod

But the Wikipedia entry has been deleted.

"Not notable"

Wonderful. :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] will2live:
+1 on that idea. to post info you know is WRONG is just total crap specially knowing everyone under the sun would get all worked about over this type of info.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Sörnäinen:
The answer to our questions is to be found in his FAQ:

"You act like you’re autistic.

Alas, I’ve been busted, and I apologize if I’ve annoyed you. It’s true that I have highly functional autism. Initially I was misdiagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome, but upon further review of my behavioural traits, that diagnosis was later changed."

http://nenolod.net/about/

This explains it all. Next thing he twitters is "Bazinga!"
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] JonesWTF:
He lied about this whole thing, there's no way he expects us to believe he's a high functioning autistic as well.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Sörnäinen:
"Highly functioning" might just be his own idea about himself.

But "autistic" fits well to this inappropriate behaviour - as I said: "Bazinga!"
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] efjbdejong:
He got what he wanted though, upset the whole motorola dev community.

What a pity the bootloader's still locked.

EJ (going on with his life)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Lithoss:
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-bootloader-still-encrypted-developer-comes-clean

Sigh....Never again, moto
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] xploited:
lool i pity the dude who thought pulling this off is worth the time and effort.

he obviously has no life. :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] oTToToTenTanz:
Or we just boycott Motorola from now on. This is what I do anyway