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[HTC EVO 3D] jgalan14:
Yeah I'm so confuse now (not the information- myself to which phone to get) which phone to get in one side we got a good phone support by Google and updates in time manner in the otherwise we have a beautifully UI (the sense on the evo 3D rocks and is better the 2.1-2.0 sense with 3d transition) and a overall better phone somehow, but the nexus s seems like a good choice the hummingbird is great(my friend has a nexus s ) and the screen too my phone look so wash out compare to the nexus s ( is like putting the iPhone 3gs still looks like it has more colors then the evo) mmmmm I think I might get the nexus s I already have an iPhone so apps and haters don't bug me, there is some great things about apple and some great things about Google , if I stay with the evo I might end up getting an ipad tho
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
I hope you find the thread in its current state helpful, and even more helpful once completed!
[HTC EVO 3D] jgalan14:
Definetely man I don't care about HDMI, I'm pretty sure a dnla app helps and my ps3 and battery life is really good on nexus s, idk if I missed bit the nexus s doesn't have memory SD card slot so 16GB is all it comes with ( I don't mind the neither, my music is in my iPhone anyways-which is my work phone so I don't pay for it lol) and the evo 3D is 4gb + up to 32 gb if anyone care)

Edit: lol I did missed it ha ha
[HTC EVO 3D] Last-Chance:
The evo specs are wrong. The evo3d comes with 1gb internal storage. Also there has not been a confirmation from sprint and htc on if the ram is expandable to the internal storage. (I highly doubt it considering Bluescreen was wrong on a lot of things).

As far as cpu goes, it's def better then tegra 2. Although I can't agree with bluescreen when he mentioned that he could overclock it to 2.0ghz and make it a LOT faster then tegra 2 (since we can't test that until the phone is fully rooted and ****), but the phone does offer async core management. Meaning the phone can determine how fast each core can run at. For example, if you are doing small amounts of work on it, phone calls, texting, etc.. The first core can run at 500-600mhz, while the second core is fully idle, and using very little power. This can work the other way around as well. Or you can have 1 core running at 1.2ghz while the other core runs at 500-600mhz.

This causes you to save batter life (which makes the 1730 mah battery even bigger in terms of lifespan), and allows the device to perform faster and more efficient. On that note, the battery will note even be close to what the current evo is. I speculate it being 2x better and longer lasting then evo, if not more.

As far as what bluescreen said, i'd take it at 100% false for now. He was wrong on mutliple occasions, and until sprint comes out with full details on the device, I would rather not assume what he said to be true (NFC/wimax & lte/2.0ghz overclocking/etc..)

Also my guess is there will be some sort of dock that comes with it, hence the usb/hdmi port on the side.
[HTC EVO 3D] fixxxer2008:
most of you are too into the internals of the phone where as i am also looking at the design. im not thrilled so my choice will be the nexus s hands down.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
What part of my post is wrong other than the RAM being expandable from the internal storage? Android central has the internal storage listed at 4GB. Where is your source for the 1GB internal storage?
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Noted, I will be adding sections about the design of each phone. Thank you :)
[HTC EVO 3D] fixxxer2008:
besides the fact the nexus will get all android updates first and foremost.
[HTC EVO 3D] tke0834:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/evo3d/specification.html
[HTC EVO 3D] Last-Chance:
hence why i'm not trusting any outside sources except sprint/htc for the moment being. Bluescreen already hyped it up too much for me, and i'd rather not be disappointed any further.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
I've noted all of this. I'll update the 3D post ASAP, marking what is speculation or rumor.
[HTC EVO 3D] goodboynyc:
I was dead set on selling my Evo and buying a Nexus S with the money till I found my HDMI cable that I specifically ordered for the Evo but I thought i lost it. And then I learn that the Nexus S has no HDMI port :{.... UGH. I can live with a lot of the quirks the Nexus S has, but not this! I SHALL NOT STAND FOR THIS! Unless I change my mind later on :P
[HTC EVO 3D] Last-Chance:
hmm. looks like htc website has the wrong specs.

Here are the exact ones from sprint.

http://newsroom.sprint.com/news/htc-evo-3d-fact-sheet.htm

Note the 4gb of internal storage. weird.

Although still no mention of shared memory or anything like that. Hopefully that will be released soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Since I like to toy with my software, and have as small of a running system as possible, the Nexus S 4G will be my next bag of babe.

While I can tolerate Sense, it just eats me up knowing that there is so much more on top.

Here is an EVO comparison of typical Sense ROMs vs CM7 ROMs for our current gen Evo 4g:

-- Typical Sense based OS: 180-200MB zipped.

-- Typical CM7 nightly: 85-88MB zipped.

This is based on ROMs available from the Dev subforum.

I can't bring myself to have over 100MB of extras for not much more features. I find a few of the widgets nifty, such as FriendStream.. but that's about it.

Anyway, since no one asked, there is my personal choice/opinion. Enjoy! :)

P.S. I'll still continue to buy Sense based phones if they can be rooted to allow user choice of software. At the time, the Evo was some killer hardware which was a no brainer when upgrading. Here's to hoping HTC doesn't try to lock down their phones any further than they did with the Thunderbolt.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Thank you for your feedback! :)

Taking some cough medicine then updating each post with the form of the phones :)
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
OP updated with form (Look and feel) of both phones. Enjoy!
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
An issue that has been brought up with the EVO3D display...here

The OP of that thread is

Should this be included in the 3D post?
[HTC EVO 3D] jgalan14:
Yeah should be included nexus s it is most likely for me
[HTC EVO 3D] abanh:
That's an issue with the Atrix, not qHD. qHD means the resolution is 960x540, it doesn't automatically mean it will have a pentile matrix display. The type of screen (tft, amoled, super amoled, ips, slcd) matters too.

The Nexus S has a super amoled screen, and that technology uses pentile matrix.
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
From what I have read Super Amoled screens are subject to color banding, the Super Amoled Plus corrects this issue. I have seen color banding on the Epic, so wont the Nexus S do the same?
[HTC EVO 3D] dirkyd3rk:
Actually one update that the nexus s received made some owners experience the color banding but I believe they corrected it with some bug fixes. If the newer nexus s is supposedly being remade I'm very positive they would fix and immediate problems the old nexus might have been plagued with before it ships.
[HTC EVO 3D] effluent:
How would you get a Nexus S free by selling an EVO for $200? You wouldn't be signing a new contract you'd be buying the Nexus S off-contract and I'm sure it would cost you at least $500, probably more. So it would cost you $300+, not free. Or am I missing something?

I'd consider the S if it had a bigger screen. I'm never going smaller than 4.3" again. Don't like Super Amoled either. Just doesn't look good to me. edit> also just remembered there's no SD slot. That's a deal breaker. I have a 16gb card now and have a few gigs left but would go well over that if I had a 32 gig card..But I'm trying to conserve space.

Also not happy with the EVO 3D..will probably hold out another year. My EVO on CM, custom kernel, OC'd performs damn well.
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
That is good to know. I am torn now, lol. I am going to return my evo here on day 29 and activate a old phone I have sitting around the house while I wait for either a evo shift or another evo that I will purchase outright from eBay. I can run that phone while I decide on nexus or evo 3d. Don't get me wrong I love my evo and should prob just keep it. I get yearly upgrades but always seem to be 1 year behind on newer phones. This is good sometimes as there is already good development when I do get my phones. Thanks for all the info here, I haven't decided on either of the 2 phones here but I have a good idea whitch one I do want :) 2 Gen evo, aka evo 3d!
[HTC EVO 3D] m4rk0358:
Does the Nexus S 4G get a kickstand? If not, why bother mentioning it only for the EVO 3D?
[HTC EVO 3D] whytecell:
I'm still on the fence about the phones myself, this article helped me out a little bit more on what to think about in my future purchase. I would LOOOOOOOOVE a google phone for the updates and roms. But, I looooove my EVO and a Upgrade would be nice. For some reason, and this is my opinion the 3D isn't much of an upgrade from what I have already. Which sucks. I wanted a thinner, sexier EVO 3D options are great and all but, is it really an upgrade? lol. I might drop the EVO and go for the Nexus. Nah.. probably go for the 3D lol
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Because the EVO had it is all. There's been a lot of questions whether or not the 3D will have it or not.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
The hardware is definitely a huge upgrade, but you won't notice a difference or it wont do anything new and exciting until software actually utilizes it.
[HTC EVO 3D] m4rk0358:
I realize that but I thought the purpose of the thread was to help people decide which phone to get of the 2. You could also add "no quad-core processor" under Nexus S since it doesn't have one.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
I could also put no 40" display on both of them. But a lot of people liked the kickstand on their EVO and I'm pointing out that the 3D doesn't have one.
[HTC EVO 3D] Last-Chance:
Nexus S is sexy, and gets fast updates

Evo is powerful, but is almost identical to the normal evo + dual core isn't fully utilized yet

So depends on which one you want, a mercedes slk amg or a bugatti veyron
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
Wait a minute! The dual core is not going to do much of anything yet? Now I am even more F 'ed up on what to do, lmao. Who stated the extra core doesn't do much yet?
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Software currently does not utilize the dual-core to do the cool things it's capable of. It'll just be a more efficient curent-EVO processor
[HTC EVO 3D] m4rk0358:
Almost identical? How so?
[HTC EVO 3D] Last-Chance:
size/weight/dimensions. Was talking about how it looked their. not the specs
[HTC EVO 3D] dirkyd3rk:
Why are people in here complaining? This guy obviously made this thread to help people and he needed the information as well....We all do. Why so serious? You don't like what he has in the op go start your own thread. I just don't get why some are trying to start arguments with a guy who's simply trying to help. This is why xda makes me sick. Tisk tisk
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Not to mention you won't notice a ginormous speed difference until very CPU intensive software is released which requires a dual-core. In the meantime, Honeycomb and HC's apps just 'run better' on dual-cores, but have been shown to run on lesser devices like the Nook Color just fine.

Let's face it, it takes tenths of a second to open apps now. If you really want it to take 1/10 second less to launch and app that badly, you've got a super-human perception of time.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrcharlesiv:
I'll probably fall for the Nexus... just saying. Ready to have a pure Google phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
I'm on the same boat as you!
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Also, as for the dual-core not being utilized yet, let's use a pretty clear (If not a little extreme) real-life example.

Warcraft: Orcs and Humans

Play that on your dual-core PC at home. The software will look the same, right? The graphics won't increase just because of a better graphics card, and it can't run any faster than the fastest it was designed to run, regardless of the dual-core CPU you have in your PC.

Now let's jump a head a bit.

Assassin's Creed 2

Assassin's Creed 2 wouldn't run very well on my laptop. My laptop is a dual-core 2.2GHz processor with 4GB of RAM and a cheapy graphics card. Sure, it can run it. Infact, I enjoyed playing AC on this laptop, but I had to tune down the graphics.

But those are just games and graphics. And actually, games are more tied into the GPU, which is practically equal between the two phones. Infact, the Nexus's GPU is rated higher than the 3D's.

For every day use and little apps, the Nexus S and EVO3D won't be different at all. If they are, it's tenths of a second different.
[HTC EVO 3D] herbthehammer:
My suggestion from my experience is to go into a corporate sprint store, one that actually has working display models, buy or order the sprint extended battery and back cover for the evo 4g and call it a day. When I can get almost double the battery life usage and not have to charge the battery during the day, that is such a nice experience.

I haven't read through all eight pages yet to see if what I noticed is there or not. I noticed that there aren't any things listed about the nexus s that some reviewers pointed out.

Still cheap plastic feeling phone like the epic

Video camera is only 480p

Takes a very long time to charge

Could possibly experience the same gps bugs that other samsungs do

(my opinion which is shared with a few people) It's basically a repackaged epic or galaxy s phone. No significant hardware improvements or features.

Here you go, I found the review I read

http://www.phonedog.com/2010/12/17/google-nexus-s-review-by-aaron/

Video review 1

http://www.phonedog.com/videos/google-nexus-s-review-pt-1/

Video review 2

http://www.phonedog.com/videos/google-nexus-s-review-pt-2/

I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm providing more information about the phone that I stumbled across recently. This information could help people weigh some of the pros and cons in their own mind on if they think the nexus s is worth buying when compared to the phone they already have.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Updated OP with info to get over the Nexus's lack of LED notifications.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
The GPS bug is not an issue. It was software that caused the issue and the original Nexus S shipped without any problems with its GPS.

As for the 'cheapy' feel, I could mention that. I mentioned it felt more airy and lighter already.
[HTC EVO 3D] adamr240:
In the last paragraph about the Evo3D, are you saying the screen doesn't do 3D? Because I'm pretty sure it does.

EVO Shift and XDA app
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Not what I was intending, but fixed for clarity.
[HTC EVO 3D] BrianDigital:
True but icecream sandwich will be in the summer. I'd imagine HTC would get their pimped out phone as soon as they updated the evo with Froyo

Myself will be getting a nexus but the evolution 3d will be updated HTC has a good track record. Most companies are not doing the whole gingerbread thing cause of icecream sandwich will be out so soon
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Kinda leaning for the nexus as well love Evo but ill have to play with both first. I've already used a nexus s and its super fast and everybody bashes the whole plastic thing bit it actually looks extremely sexy and the curve display catches your eye. Might get both but not liking the brick look of the new Evo love the specs though
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
yeah, do you guys remember how fast htc put out the first update? was amazing...
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Yea they laggin the gingerbread tho
[HTC EVO 3D] matt2053:
At first I wanted the EVO 3D because of that bad-ass processor. Then I realized that I underclock and undervolt my current evo and use the conservative governor to save battery. So...... ima get that Nexus.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Glad to hear more people going to Nexus side. Keep sharing your opinions, guys :D
[HTC EVO 3D] ausch30:
They have a promotion of $150 for porting your number over to Sprint. From what I've seen the offer is running until 4/16.

http://www.samacharexpress.com/2011/03/sprint-offers-150-50-to-wireless-defectors/

Agreed. There are always some on these tech forums that feel superior and use every opportunity to whip out their e-penis. Can't we all just get along? It's just as easy to correct something in a civil manner but some people just choose not to.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Thanks! :D I'll post that in OP
[HTC EVO 3D] ausch30:
Another thing that I didn't see mentioned on the software side was that Sprint and Google have integrated Google voice into the Nexus S (not sure about the new EVO). I think it was on Engadget that I read that Sprint would be using Google voice for the voicemail on the Nexus S.

Edit: Found it, here's the artice

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/21/sprint-google-voice-getting-tight-integration-will-let-you-use/
[HTC EVO 3D] iitreatedii:
i feel this guide is biased towards the nexus. just my thoughts which mean nothing...
[HTC EVO 3D] ausch30:
I actually felt kind of the same when reading it, still a good guide though. I knew all the info on there (with the exception that I didn't realize they officially said the Nexus would be $200 w/ contract) but it's still a good idea to have it all in one place where people can compare the two and decide which they want. Me, I'm going for the EVO.
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
The nexus is damn good looking phone... evo 3d is eh... but ill still be buying the evo :D
[HTC EVO 3D] matt2053:
Its just facts dude. How can there be bias.
[HTC EVO 3D] ausch30:
I agree. I was hoping the EVO would have a more similar design to the Thunderbolt, Pyramid, or Desire HD. Doesn't really matter all that much to me though since I always have a case on my current EVO. A major difference

, to me at least, is the manufacturer. I would much rather have a phone made by HTC rather than Samsung.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
I won't deny I have a preference for the Nexus, but I tried to present the information fairly. Everyone knows the EVO is a powerhouse already. If you're concerned the EVO isn't shining enough in this thread, please point out where I'm failing - as I'd rather compile -all- information on both phones

Not to mention I pulled info about the EVO and reviews from Engadget, which very much likes the way the EVO runs, looks, and feels.
[HTC EVO 3D] JasonK75:
You're doing fine dude; what you're posting is fair and balanced. It just seems that it is leaning towards the Nexus S because more people would pick that phone over the EVO.

To be honest, before I started reading this thread and other information out there I would have picked the EVO 3D without thinking about it. Now you have given me food for thought, and that is exactly what I did last night, thought about it.

Now, I too would pick the Nexus S over the EVO 3D for these personal reasons of mine:

1) What if the EVO 3D ends up being hard to root, or impossible. What if it mirrors the problems the HTC Thunderbolt is presenting?

2) The new Sense is cool, and I'm sure would be fun to play around with, but after awhile I would grow tired of it and miss MIUI

3) I'm a huge MIUI fan and supporter and then that makes the Nexus S a no brainer.

4) There are ROMs out there now that have to inform everyone "No 4G" or "No HDMI". I expect the same thing for the EVO 3D and we will see "No 3D" listed. That just leaves the the higher specs, and that isn't enough for me. (**Now, if it turns out it is easy to put the 3D into every ROM that will be a AWESOME thing for everyone, but I have a feeling it might be a though thing to do. I hope I stand corrected for the entire community)

5) I thought I would never leave the 4.3 screen, but now that I've been using Swype for a month that solves the problem of needing the extra screen size. :D Now I would take the better resolution and display

Again, these were just my thoughts on the matter at 3 am last night. Who know what the future will hold (I'm thinking price could sway me a lot) and I might end up with a 3D instead! Right now, Nexus S is catching my eye and I wish I knew what the release date was.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Me personally there is not even a second thought. Nexus S is a nice phone but when it comes to whats under the hood, its not even close. I dont see any reason for me to move laterally with an upgrade, the 3D is gonna be my next phone. And I don't even know why people are trying to make it seem root won't happen, we all know that it will and there isn't even a question about that. Overclocking this beast will be insane, i love the dedicated phone button on the side, and once 2.4 comes to this phone the limits are endless. 3D is my choice.
[HTC EVO 3D] Award Tour:
Nexus S for me.

I own a Nexus One and even today it feels relevant because of Google updates. I would be surprised if it didn't get Ice Cream. The EVO 4G on the other hand is already feeling old and will only get unofficial updates with second hand or hacked drivers. Plus there's a certain geek factor towards it.

The EVO 3D will also not perform significantly faster in actual use. For one, the Nexus S CPU is not going to be a bottle neck anytime soon. The GPU at WVGA will also perform competitively. I also got a good feeling that WiMax will either perform better out of the box or be tweaked to after the fact due to open source drivers. The Nexus S is already supported by CM and MIUI so that's the two best ROMs Android right out of the gate.

The EVO 3D looks clunky and (I think) is as big as the Droid X which I don't like. The Nexus S has a sleek shape and Gingerbread + the super deep blacks of the SAMOLED is a perfect match.

I also think of it as a more rational choice. The Nexus S will be what? $400 off contract (Sprint says $200 after $200 instant savings). Sell the EVO and you can get it for the upgrade price and can save your silver upgrade for a full upgrade next year. The Nexus S will easily last through next year when Qualcomm's true 28nm A9 dual core ships drop.
[HTC EVO 3D] ronnienyc:
wonder how responsive the Nexus screen will be

I agree that the Nexus looks cool.

But I am hesitant because the three bottom buttons on the bottom of the Epic screen are just *not that responsive*, often requiring two or three taps to work. As opposed to the Evo 4G, which has the most responsive screen I have ever used. Every tap registers on the Evo, making it very pleasant to use IMO.
[HTC EVO 3D] mmegalodon:
Yeah the NS is sexy. That bottom 'chin' bit is really nice in the hands and the sleek and subtle curve to the display (no matter how it's not actually curved) helps add to the overall beauty of the phone. If it was, overall, a hit more rounded it would push my personal tastes but no doubt about it being a sweet looking phone. And a solid one overall at that. Having handled multiple Samsung 'plasticy' phones it is definitely one of the few I'd choose to use.

blah blah effin blah
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
I'm really glad this thread has helped you! :D Thank you so much for the feedback, it's appreciated.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
The Epic =/= Nexus S.

I had a Samsung Transform (which was crap software-wise) but the hardware was actually decent, but no software would utilize it correctly. I don't remember having the issue you mentioned with the Transform, even with it's crap-tastic state.
[HTC EVO 3D] androd:
Same im picking up a nexus s when it comes out since I want the pure google experience.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmap516:
Can anyone find the support video, audio, and image playback file types for both devices?
[HTC EVO 3D] lamakila123:
While sprint doesn't say anything about the battery life, HTC claims 355 hours standby and 450 minutes(7.5 hours) talk-time for the EVO3D. compared to the 6 hours talk-time that they rated the EVO.

cant post link but it shouldnt be hard to find on htc.com

while their ratings may be not be accurate, it should how a relative increase in battery life compared to the old EVO.

Figured this would be good info for the OP....