yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CleveRuse:
Is the only difference in the theme? Is runnymede different schematically?

I'm asking; is there some advantage I would have if I started theming w/ runny, rather than bliss ...considering I'm gonna change just bout everything I can, theme-wise? ...Ive nvr seen Runnymede ...but it sounds like we're just talking bout a theme.

Edit: but w/out the latest m10 tools I guess its gonna be pretty tuff to theme, huh? Lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dr. Hax:
I'm swapping out their respective APK's which (AFAIK) But I'm no developer, don't take my work for it.

If you theme for Runnymede, theoretically, that theme should apply just fine on Bliss, but who knows, all I know is Runnymede looks ALOT better imo, and It will be the Sense 3.5 verision HTC uses for everything. (Like on the Rezound)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mchaos:
Holy crumpets Batman! The tread is finally unlocked sheesh. So many haters out there.

So I wanted to post the other day when I found the thread locked.....

There was some talk about the servers hosting the updates. I don't own the server but I pay for hosting and have 100's of gigs of bandwidth I will never use. If a mirror would help or wanted I have more then enough space. I really only use it for email and hosting files.

Whoever is in charge of that can let me know and I can set up access. Linux running cpanel.

Don't want a thing for it just doing my part if its wanted.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CleveRuse:
Gotcha. Well in that case, I'm sure we can get this thing looking btr ...wut we really need r the new m10 tools!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dr. Hax:
Just tried swapping their APK's and its a no-go. It almost loaded the lockscreen, but then turned into a turd and bootlooped :'(

*sigh* I'm gonna have the Rezound before the Thunderbolt gets a proper Runnymede port -.-
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nocoast:
dude vigorsense is a soab based rom (like this synergy nightly) that has runnymeade ported to it....READ up on it. it has all of the files you listed...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jawonder:
The Dev team came out firing from last night, i installed Sense 3.5 R9 and in a few mins it was up to R11 now i'm seeing R14 wow!. Can i just wipe Cache and Dalvik and flash R14 over R11 ?.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dr. Hax:
Wow I'm blind xD

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Although, on that ROM, I had serious music playback issues (serious deemed by me :p)

Turning screen on/off during music playback would cause a stutter, no SRS enhancements, etc. And for this (Synergy Sense 3.0 ROM) my biggest gripe is the utter lack of a stock Sense theme. I like the way HTC makes Sense (hehe!) I don't like user-developed themes at all, and I found a stock theme... ish. Its borked though. Battery icon is deblertered on it for some reason. So I replaced the framework-res.apk with that from a Desire HD Sense 3.0 rom and it worked.. ish. But some text looked all screwed up in quick settings, when I changed the volume, it didn't say "ringer volume" it said something like "0%" or something like that throughout the whole thing. idfk but all I want, honestly, all I want is a bone-stock Sense 3.0 or Sense 3.5 rom. Why isn't that available for Thunderbolt while every other HTC phone has it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] M@|ice:
Has anyone dirty flashed this new 3.5 over 267? What were your results?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] c_live_lee:
I wouldn't do it. Doubt it would work. Completely different base, if I'm not mistaken.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] McLabia:
Meh. 3.5 sucks a bag of dic.... Errr... Yeah. You know what I mean. Back to r268 for me.

Sent from my rooted, Dark Horse INFECTED Synergy bolt running Ziggys latest.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] c_live_lee:
For any Sense users who take a lot of stock in what he says, do remember that this comment comes from a person who also stripped Sense 3.0 from Synergy. He simply doesn't like Sense. No insult intended, Dev. Just wanted to make sure this was clear. I personally find Sense 3.5 on this Rom, as well as SoaB, to be much more smooth than 3.0. And, honestly, once you get past the lack of BLUE-BLUE-BLUE-BLUE, it doesn't look all that different. Simply has faster and smoother animations.

Edit: Also, my Quadrant Advanced scores are consistently higher, so far,on this Rom than Synergy 3.0 AND SoaB.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] chatmaster20:
I installed this ROM a few months ago and have been too busy traveling to do anything with it. I am about to install R268, do I need to wipe everything off of my phone or I can just install it on top? Thank you!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] McLabia:
Oh no, it's no secret that i despise sense. Lol. It has some awesome features that just fall flat for me. Like the tabs. While you can customize them, the drawer becomes uselessvand it might as well just be an app shortcut. As far as the blue goes, I was looking past that because I know the hurdles atm with theming. M10s are a ***** right now.

Overall though, I like a certain few features, but still not what I like. As far as the base goes though, once some bugs are worked out, ill be using it, and when I desense it this time, ill cataloge what i remove for others.

And to be clear, there's nothing that anyone other than htc can fix for me to like sense at this point. Lol.

Sent from my rooted, Dark Horse INFECTED Synergy bolt running Ziggys latest.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MONKY_1:
Can't download the roms :,(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] McLabia:
Stop being lazy. Use the SVN.

Sent from my rooted, Dark Horse INFECTED Synergy bolt running Ziggys latest.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RomsWell:
Yeah I think there screwing with the servers again. Ive got ****ty speeds even from the comp. Just have to wait it out, or send reppin some hate mail ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] c_live_lee:
I can't argue, AT ALL, about the nearly useless tab drawers! Lol I noticed that issue while test driving soab.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] zeroxg4:
Ey wth pink?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] c_live_lee:
Huh? What's pink?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] zeroxg4:
Oh I guess it was the stock skin. It had like a pink accented theme.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] c_live_lee:
Oh ok. I haven't caught that yet. But, I did hear the Rhyme was marketed specifically toward women so, that wouldn't surprise me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dr. Hax:
The bliss rom was exceptionally smooth for me, but I can't get past just how fugly it is. Even when getting Runnymede launcher running on it. That vigorsense rom is sinmply... I don't like the feel... I like the feel of bliss sense.. but its godawful fugly.

I managed to get it to take a runnymede com.htc.resources.apk and it had mad force closes left and right, but it had the glossy-looking buttons looking like from Runnymede, it looked frankanstein-y.

I would seriously pay someone to build a Runnymede-based rom for the Thunderbolt >.<
[Thunderbolt Android Development] McLabia:
Or he could use the SVN and never have a worry. Sending reppin hate mail for something he has no control over isn't cool. He's mentioned in another thread his provider was undergoing some ddos attacks.

Sent from my rooted, Dark Horse INFECTED Synergy bolt running Ziggys latest.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] McLabia:
Meh. The theming is irrelevant at this point. They're working out the bugs before theming.

Sent from my rooted, Dark Horse INFECTED Synergy bolt running Ziggys latest.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eschelon:
The reason every phone except the Thunderbolt is running Runnymede is because of 3 letters: LTE

I know and work with a lot of smart devs, and so far nobody has been able to figure out how to get data/LTE/phone calls working on the Thunderbolt from a Runnymede base. This is why Thunderbolt ROMs use Bliss, because it's a build made specifically for the HTC Rhyme - a Verizon 4G phone. As such, data was easier (although still not easy) to get working for TB ROMs.

For what it's worth, we actually had a pretty sweet ROM cooked up based off of the Runnymede and Vigor RUUs, but we just couldn't get the ROM to talk to Verizon's towers. As proof that we didn't just run out and kang someone else's Bliss base when we originally set out to make a 3.5 ROM, here is a download to an alpha Synergy Runnymede 3.5 build we spent weeks on for the Thunderbolt; it's safe and pretty fun to play with (includes Beats audio, InfectedTweaks in settings, the works...) so go ahead and flash this but beware that you will not have phone calls or data until you flash back to a different build (although wifi works):

http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/Thunderbolt_Developers/Virus/Synergy/RLS/

That's what we originally wanted to release, but if you know of a way to get data working on the above build please let us know and we'll get away from Bliss immediately. Until then, we're stuck with Bliss.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] c_live_lee:
Thanks for that clarification. This sounds more along the lines of what was alluded in the various rumors I had been hearing during you guys' presumed hiatus.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] McLabia:
^Ive flashed this, and if this ROM ever comes to fruition, I would run it without a second thought provided Dark Horse was ever able to be ported. ^_^. Its faster than the bliss port by far. Gaming on it was fun too, but not a viable daily due to the data.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] IXIKelsonIXI:
The Rhyme is not an LTE device. The fact that it is on Verizon might have helped data. But no 4G for the ladies.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eschelon:
Not sure why I said 4G... I meant CDMA (as opposed to GSM). Hence why it still took some hex editing for data

It's been a long week; forgive my n00bness :p
[Thunderbolt Android Development] IXIKelsonIXI:
Haha. I thought that might have been what you meant. But the only way I can feel good about myself is if I correct everyone for even the slightest mistake.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] c_live_lee:
Lol! That's ok man! Get that n00b's ass! ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MONKY_1:
I seriously talking about me? I'm not going to complain to him. I just said i cant download the files and stop being so rude. I wont say anything else I dont want this thread closed again.

Can anyone provide my a dropbox link to bliss? I wanna try it out and see why its so fugly lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] McLabia:
The complaining portion wasnt directed at you, but the dont be lazy portion was. You can easily SVN the build. Its been posted by Eschelon, and I posted a video on how to use it. No ones being rude. Youve been given the help, stop refusing it or dont ask for help. Its that simple.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RomsWell:
My original comment was a ha ha Dev. Reps always asking issues to be emailed. Wasent slamming Rep.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RjsShadows:
The Vigor (Rezound) is an LTE phone so shouldn't it be easy to port to the Thunderbolt? Only downside I can see is resizing the 1280x720 resolution of the UI.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] McLabia:
Oh, I dont care if you slam the man or not, I was just pointing that out for those that cant read the sarcasm. lol. Youre good dude. When Im on my phone I dont type as much or as fluidly as I would when Im on the comp. :-P Just straight forward.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mchaos:
Well it's been a bit since I have been on the forum and in this thread. Came back to it locked yet again. Got me thinking....

I took a look and realized this monstrous thread 10,856.. which will be +1 more as soon as I post this. But also has over 700k views.... :eek:

I flipped through some pages, and haven't seen anything in the developer section close. Damn this rom is hot lol, and apparently so is the thread. This thing keeps getting better and better. I am getting near 4000 on a quadrant score without the cheat. DAMN....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Grnlantern79:
All 3.5 sucks on this phone. Sticking with 3.0 for life of this phone.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Grnlantern79:
Which is a hell of a lot of downsizing. And I believe the LTE chipsets are different so there is that as well.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] McLabia:
Meh. Senseless sense ftw.

Sent from my rooted, Dark Horse INFECTED Synergy bolt running Ziggys latest.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dwnfdrknss:
I don't want this to turn into a piss match between anyone but what's up with the chingy ROM? Putting all the drama between chingy and team BAMF aside, what was that ROM based off of and didn't it have working data/LTE? I much preferred the look of that ROM (based on screenshots alone) to the bliss look. Being honest, i personally never ran it since it was incomplete and it has since been abandoned from what i gathered off the mikmik forums and rootzwiki.

I will say that this ROM and the BAMF 3.5 run smooth as silk and the animations are awesome though everything else is fugly. IMHO. Any insight would be appreciated but i just thought i'd throw that out there.

Rick

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I hope i don't get in trouble for this but here's a link off Rootzwiki for a runnymede launcher for SoaB but seems like something broke for 1.03:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/5345-mods-update-soab-v102-runnymede-launcher-some-other-mods/

And of course the infamous chingy ROM:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/5365-rom-mikroms-invigorate-v10-beta-iii-92611-sense-35-vigor-port/

The download link was removed for rootzwiki but the mikmik forum thread is easy to find.

I understand people take issues with KANGing or what have you but i think if everyone just put ego aside and worked together and that if proper credit was given where it's due we'd have something great to look forward too. People are too damn cheap these days and i've contributed small amounts here and there to most developers. Im sure if proper credit was given and links for contributions for EVERYONE were posted everyone would be a lot happier. People need to stop being cheap asses and stop acting as if they are owed or deserve something for nothing. Donations go a long way im helping make stuff happen. If something works it works and that's all most of us care about and that's all MOST of us want. Of course when it comes to sense ROMs looks also matter to most of us lol :p... just saying. I'll personally put up $100 to make stuff happen but i won't just throw it away if no one else see's the value in people's work. It may seem like im being an ass but if i can pull $100 surely everyone else can put in $1. That multiplied by however many people actually follow these developers and ROMs should help support and fund these projects. Hopefully no one thinks they'll get rich doing this but something is far better than nothing i think... especially for people that genuinely and sincerely enjoy doing this type of thing. /rant.

Rick
[Thunderbolt Android Development] _Stomp_:
What is everyone doing for NFL mobile and the data widget through myverizon?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CleveRuse:
Ok, so lemme guess... I'm the only one that experiences freezes after every 'hot restart' on the 3.5 builds too! ....yes, I'm still having the same problem here!

I did send all applicable logs (/devlog/, system_log/logcat, kernel_log,) to ziggy months ago

...but I guess its past time for me to write an official report since its nvr been resolved:)

Note: it only happens on Synergy builds! Nvr happened on VR, BAMF, or even on soaB Bliss (BAMF) -just Synergy and now Synergy Bliss.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CleveRuse:
Wut does "meh" mean?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] AndroidFileHost:
My apologies I forgot to post on this thread also for the server downtime. I switched DNS servers and did some other tweaks to help from being effected by the ddos attacks that the hosts network was getting. Sorry to not have posted about it here. Also please do email me even hate mail lol. Even.though I knew it was down sometimes I do not and could think its just me. So please email me with any issues so I can be aware of them and.get it fixed. Thanks

Also if you need help setting up svn feel free to hit me up on gchat and I would be.more then happy to assist you. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] AndroidFileHost:
Please see the above post :) please feel free to email me even if your the only one with issue. Won't to make sure were all happy flashaholics. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CleveRuse:
Oh man, wuts up with that 'infected tweaks'? Can we get that on bliss? ...and Synergy 3.0 too? ...or atleast sumthin similar! That'd be excellent!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MoosePMed:
I think I have a problem... I need to seek help. I actually went to dinner last night so that I could download the 3.5 build r14. LMAO! It's fast, responsive... I like it. As an update, call recorder doesn't work with this either.

Sent from my Synergized Thunderbolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ocbooger:
Awesome
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kingkongsmith:
Some one please tell me how yall downloading bliss...I been pressing that links since yesterday..it will not download....Help

from airborne to synergy, nothing else matter!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RomsWell:
Not to be a ass. But man one page back is the info on downloading the roms. I mean really. That's why this thread is 10 miles long.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] zeroxg4:
Not to sound ungrateful or like a D, but doesn't that mean that VigorSense also has to be based off of Bliss? It looks exactly like the Runnymeade ports that I ran on my old Dinc2. And if what I just said is true, wouldn't that mean that you can simply apply that look with your amazing under the hood modifications / tweaks? Just putting it out there, honestly wondering. PLEASE don't take any offense as I love all of your work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kingkongsmith:
Wish I seen what u talking about

from airborne to synergy, nothing else matter!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] slvfox:
http://www.androidfilehost2.com/main/Thunderbolt_Developers/Virus/Synergy/Buildbox/3.5/

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Having always used launcher pro, I thought I would try 3.5. So far no problems but I was wondering is there a way to change the widgets on the home screen. It seems that the present home screen is one big widget itself. Everytime I try to change it, my only option is to move it or trash it.

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I flashed r14 yesterday and have not had any problems. I have "hot restarted" multiple times with no freezes. Hope this helps.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eschelon:
Well as I've mentioned before, both of our 3.5 builds are frankenstein creations which use parts from Bliss, Vigor, and Runnymede. And yes, we spoke with capychimp and used (with explicit permissions) some of his Runnymede ROM. In fact, pretty much everyone out there with a 3.5 port HAD to use part of capy's build since he was the one to get the bluetooth 3.0 stack working.

Eventually the plan is to either get data working on that non-working sextified build I linked to last night, or ultimately get Bliss to work and look like that build.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RomsWell:
SVN SVN SVN
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 00negative:
There is a file you can delete that deletes your google account without doing a factory reset. Think it is spelled out in the android development section of xda. Might google it. I would link but can't run it down at the moment
[Thunderbolt Android Development] M@|ice:
anyone have screen shots of what this looks like? i keep hearing about pink, and thats about it. ive read that its smooth and runs great. just would like to see what im missing out on before i take the plunge. didnt see any up yet nor in the OP.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] c_live_lee:
It is in fact one full screen widget and the only way to do any editing to it is to long press and drag it onto the edit button, rather than the trash button. But, if you prefer old school, 3.5 Sense does still have all the oldies but goodies. No swapped out widgets, only added widgets.

I flashed that Rom this morning for a while and I loved it! I REALLY hope you guys get it fired up in the near future!

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If you're on Rootzwiki as well, you can simply look up erishasnobattery's "BAMF SoaB" and you'll see it. Looks JUST like that. There is no pink that I've seen, on this one. Eris still uses the pink boot animation but not Synergy.

Edit: Just noticed that button presses look pink to me. But, I swear that's all I've seen so far.

Edit2: Damnit! The two launcher buttons have a pink hue to them as well. Don't know how I missed that!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] M@|ice:
thank you sir for sharing that info. gonna check it out.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] erishasnobattery:
I'd just ike to go on record, the intial SoaB ROM was based on the Asian GSM RUU of the Bliss. The only reason I did Bliss, was because it dropped first. CDMA/GSM has nothing to do with it. I could do a Runnymede/Vigor port just as easily, as the frameworks are so nearly identical, that moving two folders from one to the other would have working data/voice.

Frankly I saw no reason. Other than the colors, which the themers killed off in like a day and the launcher which looks like a pregnant Rosie (and was added as a mod), they are identical.

Edit: PS, the Rhyme is 3G only. Just for the record.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
Let us not forget Doubleshot, which was also GSM, that you made work with LTE.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] c_live_lee:
Something tells me this could get interesting- possibly to the point of threadlock. We've seen Adrynalyne many times in here but, I'm not so sure erishasnobattery has joined in the festivities before now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] M@|ice:
McLabia, is this radio newer than the one you had on your site you shared with us? (is it still down? will you being turning it back on for us again?)

From the 2.11.605.3 RUU:

CDMA: 1.48.00.0906

md5: c6a5a9eee78e0f33267fa80ced3c49b8

LTE: 0.01.78.0906

md5: 6f33809cf2253c38a3c6bb970f030eee

c_live_lee i searched and searched and i cannot find the thread. unless im just not opening the right one. :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] adrynalyne:
There is only a problem if you make it one. There was no contention, merely corrections to comments made by one of the Synergy devs.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] erishasnobattery:
I have no intentions of starting a battle. I just don't like the fact that someone calls me out for "taking the easy route" by using a 4G base, that isn't even 4G or even CDMA. If it was so easy, there would be 20 Vigor ports floating around by now.

I'll have a working Runnymede base by the weekend for the "smart devs" to play with as I have no interest in doing one.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] IXIKelsonIXI:
Can't we all just get along?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eschelon:
Eris is right. I had originally been told he hex edited the CDMA RIL (which was incorrect), so I can see why my comment could be taken as a dig or a personal attack against his work. That was certainly not my intention.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] McLabia:
My sites gone for good. Gunther has taken over in that regard. The average Joes site has all of the radios that were on my site, because I uploaded them there. ;-) check gunthermics sig for the link.

Sent from my rooted, Dark Horse INFECTED Synergy bolt running Ziggys latest.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RjsShadows:
I'm not sure if I can post this, but here is the Runnymede launcher (dock) it works with the r14 but it will remove the 5x4 app drawer.

http://www.mediafire.com/?59dr46x55aoxh54

Just flash in recovery.