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could relax and get you-in a mellow mood. But I know you are working
pretty hard.

K: Well I have a breakfast the next morning that I had forgotten about.

S: That's too bad. Well we understand - everything seems to be in
perfect shape here.

K: Should I give the same speech at lunch or at dinner or what.

S: Yeah I think your brief 10 to 15 minute talk about the present policies.
Then I think the best thing to be done would be the question thing
boy because you really x handle those like it was duck soup. I think
it gives you a chance to cover many more spectrums.

K: Yeah I think that is better.

S: I think that will be the format and that is the way we will do it and
we are supposed to be there at 12:30 at the University Club so if
you get to Charley ______ you can lock yourself in the bedroom
or do anything you want.

K: Good.

S: I will see you tomorrow.

K: Marvelous, look forward to seeing you.

S: Bye

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Hugh Scott/Kissinger

mid-afternoon - 7/25/72

K: Hello.

S: Henry, we had a policy meeting this morning which we are very anxious to keep within the family because Allott and I both chewed out our wandering boys and made a great plea to have them come back home and also not introduce amendments - let the Democrats introduce them even if we have to vote for them. Ed Brooke took some umbrage at it and I think Cook did but Stevens took a far more reasonable view of it and Cook was sent to . . . . I think Mathias has told you something about it.

K: No, Mathias hasn't told me anything. What Mathias has told me is that he would want to be helpful and could he work with Timmons and I said sure.

S: All right so much the better. Now here is what Stevens suggests. He says they are looking for a face-saver because he and Cook had an amendment that was too close to the Brooke amendment. So close that they felt locked in. He would like if they could offer a perfecting amendment and the parliamentary situation is Cranston has introduced the Cooper amendment to which Brooke will offer the old Brooke amendment. We can't, under the parliamentary situation, get in with a perfecting amendment to Cranston before Brooke does and such an amendment, if we could agree on language, be offered by Stevens, Cook and Stafford which could signal a shift of three votes we need very much and would probably get us Mathias and some others. Now their proposal is to take the Cranston or Cook amendment and continue withdrawal in four months on the release of prisoners adding the funds to be used are conditioned not only on the safe and orderly withdrawal of forces but also the safe and orderly removal of prisoners. They are willing to go into variations of that language as long as they don't have to use the words which are anathema to them; that is "an internationally supervised ceasefire". In other words they're willing to set up conditions that in effect are and can be interpreted as requiring ceasefire without the words.

K: I understand the point.

S: So now if that happens we are in a much happier position because we're going to have to fight this on every bill that comes along that's relevant and we're fighting it right now on a bill that already is going to have other problems as you know. So a victory needless to say is much to be desired and this chewing out we did this morning is at least providing this much fruit. Now clearly how do we do it?

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K: How do you think you can do it?

S: Well I thought perhaps that if we could arrange it for you to talk to Stevens and see whether or not there is any rakage in here for wording. We've got all day tomorrow and probably all day Thursday on it.

K: I couldn't do it tomorrow. I could do it Thursday. Now could you get me the text of what you have in mind?

S: Well that is the problem you see. We haven't an opportunity here to get Stevens to go along with the shifting text rather than toasqueeze him into a text. We have the text of the Cranston amendment. We have the text of the Brooke amendment and we have the substance of Stevens proposes. Now we can get all that to you. Now I don't want to freeze Stevens this early into any specific language because you'd want to offer some alternatives to him.

K: Of course the whole thing is a bad irresponsible exercise. I don't see what earthly good it can do.

S: I don't either. I've gotten into great problems with it because Allott and I kind of chewed them out this morning and as I said it had the effect you noted.

K: That sounds like at least some progress. Well, if you send those over to me, let me see if we can put something together.

S: I'll send you what we've got here and tell you what the situation is. We have at least a parliamentary opening and I think if the Senate saw these three fellows come in with something it is likely that we should get the votes we need and that would put the quietus on this kind of stuff for a while. At least for this bill and probably through the Convention.

K: Right. Well, let me have those. Can you get those over or get them to Timmons or whichever is easiest for you?

S: Timmons will be up here at 5 o'clock and I'll try and get them in some shape for you and give them to him and then we'll be in touch tomorrow.

K: Fine. We'll be in touch tomorrow. Thank you, Hugh.

S: Bye.

The president of the board of directors, and the general manager of the company.

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Barbaralee Diamonstein/Kissinger

9:05 a.m. - 7/26/72

K: Hello.

D: Barbaralee Diamonstein, how are you?

K: How are you?

D: I can hardly hear you.

K: I said, "How are you?"

D: I am splendid, thank you. Splendid but somewhat distressed in terms of you. I was delighted to meet with you, however I am trying to determine whether I can use some of the material I heard early this morning. You were called "vigorously non-partisan" in one of the early morning news broadcasts. You were quoted no less. I think you feel very strongly about those direct quotes though.

K: I did.

D: And I will certainly honor your feelings and if it is agreeable to you - what I would like to do - I'm going to Europe tomorrow and will be gone for about ten days and I thought what I would do would be to play around with the material while I was gone because I will have some time to do that and when I return, assuming you will at some point in time be in Washington, call you again and check with you if what I would like to use is in anyway agreeable. Or if after looking it over again, think that perhaps at some other time when you would be more willing to or feel freer to talk, you would be willing to meet with me again or else talk with me on the phone and I could get some additional and specific material.

K: You're a real gentleman.

D: That I never want to be. That is not included in my lazy list of aspirations.

K: No, that's fair enough.

D: Will you be in Washington, disregarding any privileged information, by mid-August, you know along about the 10th or 15th of August.

K: Yes.

The New York Times and Washington Post

The White House and the Capitol

The President's Office

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D: And I will call you and perhaps at some point either when you will be in New York or I will come to Washington again, particularly if I don't use this material the magazine is not going to pay my expenses for coming, as you know.

K: Well I will tell you again that I am mortified at what was done to you and it was based on a complete misunderstanding on my part.

D: Well, I think you were kind of gracious about it too. Particularly when you were in no way bombarded by really significant things and you should in no way be troubled by this. You were good to see me and I'm sorry it didn't work out the way I would have liked it too. Can I call you...

K: Call me when you get back from Europe.

D: You're going to be in New York from what I gather today.

K: I'll be in New York but I'm booked up the whole day.

D: So I gathered. I heard that on the early morning news broadcast. Please don't tell them anything you wouldn't tell me.

K: I'm not doing anything on the record.

D: Well this morning I was up quite early and in case you would like to know what I heard - they announced that you were coming to New York and would be speaking to a financial group and in spite of that they thought your contribution to the ticket would be fund-raising as you talked to influential groups. There was some disclaimer that Mr. Kissinger maintains that... talking to those groups he continued to maintain a larger communication and then someone - I think it was an editorial comment - what group it was to whom you addressed your remarks that it could be construed as being substantively related to the Administration's position.

K: They won't rest until they attack the President.

D: OK.

K: Thank you.

D: I'll call you back. I'll be back in New York on...

K: I'll be in Washington until about the 19th of August.

D: I'll call you probably the 15th.