DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958, Sect. 3.6

By NARA, Dalo 5/26

TELECON

Joe Sisco/Mr. Kissinger

7:45 p.m., August 18, 1970

K: I just want to check whether you and Rogers agreed on that package today.

S: Thought the language I gave him was very helpful. Communicated language to Johnson. I did a cable that you will see in the morning. Button it down. Had to go back to Johnson. Argov will probably give us a reply tomorrow.

K: Will it then be done?

S: I hope so.

K: Do you think they intend to deliver it to our friend (Primer - sp?)

S: I hope so. I gave Dave Packard a little nudge - the quickest way we could get this stuff to them.

K: David is first-class. We are going to have a meeting tomorrow.

S: That is a wonderful opportunity.

K: Was just asked by Rick Smith if the President personally intervened in this brawl. (I told him the President only gets engaged when something goes wrong, was that the right answer?)

S: Yes, keep him out of it. Remember Henry, there are only two people that are expendable. (laughter)

K: Yes -- you and Alex Johnson!

S: Yes, Henry. (more laughter)

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By NARA, Date 5/26

TELECON

The Vice President/Mr. Kissinger

8:00 p.m., August 18, 1970

V/P: Just wanted to check back with you.

K: Talked here. They have a reason for not making that plane available other than orneriness. Did tell Haldeman that they must put Zerox machines on the plane.

V/P: Understand they can't do it because of the extra load of the Zerox because of the power systems.

K: They have a reason which I can explain when I see you. I don't want to talk about it over the phone. Isn't just that the plane isn't available and they are keeping it.

V/P: If it satisfies you, it will satisfy me.

K: Reasonable people can come to that conclusion.

V/P: What about the Japanese thing?

K: Talked to Haldeman. I haven't seen the President. Didn't really think that was important to you.

V/P: Rogers was the one who was really pushing.

K: We don't object if you want to go to Japan.

V/P: I have been wondering, they have had so much trouble over there. (Raised demonstrations)

K: My advice to you, Mr. Vice President, is not to do it. It might mar your whole trip. We want to build you up and you know how the press is [if one demonstrator gets killed that will be the big news]. The other countries are safe.

V/P: I will discuss it some more with Rogers before I make any final decision. The President is having some Cabinet Members in, I will try to draw him aside and discuss it with him.

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By NARA, Dato 5/26

TELCONE
Klein/Kissinger

morning 8/18/70

HAK: I understand you layed on that briefing on the 24th. I said I would
not do it with the Secy. of State out there.

K: I told them.

HAK: Who is they? I have no agents that book me.

K: I talked to Bob Haldeman.

HAK: He said I should do it?

K: He said go.

HAK: What happens between Rogers and me.

K: Couldn't we do it opened and closed.

HAK: He is not willing to do that.

K: Let me talk to Bob right now and call you back.

HAK: I don't want to be in a position to down grade Rogers or have him
down grade me. I don't want to compete with him.

K: You shouldn't. I will call you right back.