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it, every Republican...

Oscar: About the Republicans?

Henry: Yeah, Republicans, because if you want to get the Republican nomination in 2,000, you cannot afford to antagonize the Christian Coalition, New Conservatives, and so forth. They may be only 5% of the total vote, but they're maybe 30% of the Republican vote. Everybody... look at John [Kasich], for example from Ohio, whom I know well, I've campaigned for him and he's moved way over.

Bob: Attacking corporate welfare, he and Ralph Nader have suddenly aligned...

Henry: Yeah. And Gingrich does the same thing.

Larry: Not privately.

Henry: No but... Gingrich's approach is to tell you privately... certain things, and then publicly he... and then he comes back to you privately and says he had to do that, you know.

M: The publication that you referred to?

Henry: It's called the Weekly [Standard], it's put out by Phil [Crystal]. [Crystal]... and it maybe has a circulation of 20,000, but every congression... if you want to know what the right-wingers are doing, you have to read this. And the National Review is a serious paper. But this is a really rabble-rouser... and but it pushes all the buttons. They are deliberately trying to create a coalition of the Christian Right, the Neo-Conservatives, the... the anti-abortion... on the... labor... on the issue of China, because they think that's the modern equivalent of the Reagan coalition. What they don't know is what they'll do [this year]... if the confrontation with China because if we are in a confrontation with China, it won't quit. And that you can bet on.

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Larry: Once we get into a confrontation with China, it'll take a hell of a long time to get out of it, I would...

Henry: That's what I mean, it won't end.

Larry: It's not going to be handled instantaneously.

Henry: No, no, you can't touch [Turn], they won't turn with us. And I'm really frightened about this visit of [Chung Kae Min] here.

Bob: Has Jim [Sasser] learned anything?

Henry: No he's not... he's been O.K. I thought it was a bad appointment, but he's been good actually. No he's... he's not the problem. The problem are the opportunists and the administration is totally frivolous. I've never seen people like this. They think they can talk themselves into and out of anything. But they have no strategy. But [Rupert] is a serious man, I mean if you talk to him.

M: What about Albright?

Henry: Albright is... very public relations oriented. Nice lady but very public relations... [inuadible] strategies at all.

M: ...over to Bosnia, puts the helmet on and...

Henry: Bosnia is a typical example. We are creating a situation in Bosnia. Why do we want to unify Bosnia? These are three ethnic groups that have been murdering each other for hundreds of years. If you say that Serbs are criminals, it depends when you start counting. They're all criminals. [Laughter] There are no innocent people in Bosnia. It depends on when you start counting, and if we now pick up these... I'll tell you what is going to happen. If we pick up these major war criminals, the Moslems are going to attack into the Serbian areas, ethnic cleansing will start again. And the Serbs will start sniping at Americans. The Moslems may actually win that war, but it will be then a blood bath on the other side, and

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Americans will get killed and whatever you [think]. And the
Croatians don't want to live in a unified state either, but we
have... this is a... this is sort of a domestic issue, I've got to
go.

Cyrus: On that... on that last happy note, not that you have to go, but the other... let me just conclude for a minute. I want to thank each of you for coming, we really appreciate it. This is as always, a very valuable input to us and how we think. The next meeting, Henry's going to host it... you're going to... Henry's going to host the next meeting at the World Cup, July 10th, and we hope each of you...

Henry: The final is July 12th...

Cyrus: I know. Well, what we'll do... we have the meeting planned for July 10th, which is a Friday, and that evening will be the semi-final, and that's the game we'll probably try to get. If... I'll send you a note, and if I can organize tickets for any of you that want for the finals...

Henry: ... the semi-final, I hate to tell you is Thursday night.

Cyrus: Is it Thursday night? O.K., well then we'll go to the semi-final Thursday night and have the meeting on Friday. Paris. July 10th is the meeting in Paris, and so if Thursday night is the semi-final, we'll go to that game. And then, I will try, if you let me know, that you would like, I'll try to get tickets for you on the final as well, if you...

Oscar: I can promise you Brazil will...

Cyrus: Brazil, I know. Well, of course Brazil's going to be in the finals! Yeah.

Henry: The World Cup I want to see is the one which the Koreans

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FIFA
corrupted [Divas] into sharing between Korea and Japan... and how
the hell that is going to work, jointly in Korea and Japan... But
they corrupted...

Cyrus: What we'd like to do also... between now and then, Brian
told you about the Beyond 2,000 study we're doing and our own
strategy, and a couple of us would like to visit with each member
of the advisory board over the next probably, six months or so, and
we'll schedule it. We'd like to have what, an hour or so? Is that
about... so we'll come to you and visit you, to get your views, and
we'll give you something in advance of that to stimulate your
thinking. But this would be very valuable to us. It was... when we
did the Vision 2,000 last time, I think the advisory board's input
was really critical. And I thought it just helped us a lot, because
we get good, straight, you know, no bullshit answers out of you
guys, and that's good. So, the trip for those, I think John and
Yoshio, you're going to come along with us to... out to Silicon
Graphics. And Oscar, excuse me. And Martin, and you, and Brian and
me... wow, we've got a lot of us! Sure you don't want to change
your mind Larry?

Larry: Well, I'd like to but I think I'd better get back...

M: Show us an oil platform, Larry...

Larry: Boy, if I ever see...

Cyrus: Thank you very, very much [Recording ends]

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