Reproduced from the open files
of the Nixon Presidential
Materials Staff

DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958, Sect. 3.6

By KCLW NARA, Date 5/12/04

TELCORN

Helms/Kissinger

11:35 am

11/2/70

K: I just read that *agreed* statement on what happened on the standstill zone. One sentence I won't accept *but* which you can appeal to the President. Have no evidence that refute conditions that ? ? ? ? was concerned prior to Aug. 7. Since they didn't know it *wasn't* going to be a standstill zone, where would they hide it -- 300 missiles. Why would they hide it before Aug. 7 and show it after. How can you rationalize that?

H: It was *Laird* who said that. That sentence was included because of him.

K: Let's him explain to me why they *would* hide them when they didn't know there was going to be a ceasefire or where the zone would be. You are the Director of Intelligence. ? ? ? ? Loose correlation between installments and ______. Why would they put in caches before the ceasefire, in a zone they didn't know existed. They couldn't build them overnight. Over a period of months. You can't hide 300 missiles overnight.

H: We have no *agreed* argument. It leans (?) on sound evidence.

K: The President isn't a trained Jesuit.

H: If you would like me to telegraph out to you another sentence plus a
an explanation of what has been said --

K: Would you and in the meantime I am sending it back to the group to work on. It's on page 2 of my draft. Ix. If they had it underground they must have scooped up sand -- I am having that tonnage analyzed. I can discover no incentive -- why would they hide it before a ceasefire and bring it out after.

H: My language in the briefing was better. We will use that.

K: Would you re-do it as an agreed statement?

H: Fine. We will have it by the time you get back.

K: How about opening of business on Wed. -- or the end of the day. That's all right.

H: We will have it by Wed. evening.

K: State the evidence. If they think it can be hidden there then some one should say we never saw caches and never saw excavation and don't understand the incentive.

H: Got you!

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By KHC NARA, Dato S/12/04

TELCONE
Sisco/Kissinger

9:28 am 11/3/70

K: I saw your cable to the Secy. about the UN debate and I am worried again that tactics will x consume us and we have not had a serious discussion on this. How can we say we are not happy with paragraph 3. There are only 3 paragraphs.

S: Latin American resolution?

K: Yes.

S: I am talking about Israel. We didn't get the changes we wanted.

K: The Russians stood alone for 15 years.

S: We are persuing the tactic the Israelis want us to persue.

K: I gather there was a question whether we would on an unacceptable resolution.

S: I am not following you.

K: We will face an agonizing decision -- if a resolution of this kind comes to vote it will be unfavorable. "I don't know. I don't think." So what?

S: The other point is made earlier in the cable. The whole approach in the second paragraph we have persuaded the tactic of the Israelis.

K: No problem with second paragraph. I want to know what you mean are planning to do. One out of 10 you have to tell me before you do it.

S: Yost is busy this morning after talking with Eban to get further changes. The Israelis asked us an hour ago to ______ vote against the modified African-UAR draft. We will do that. We want an effort to block on that resolution. This is what Israel wants and we will do it. What we will have ______ coming up and the reason we did that piece of paper yesterday was that we wanted to outline considerations. It's fast moving and we could be confronted with a quick decision. I have put in a call to Yost to see when he thinks the vote will come up. If he thinks the vote will come ______ in tomorrow, we will come up with telegram to you and Secy. so that the 3 of you can talk about this ______ tomorrow morning. My recommendation is no vote on the African draft by U.S. and for the ______ Latin American draft is concerned I will have Yost talk to the Israelis. The Latin American draft could be used ______ if they want to use it because there are references that could be interpreted and some of the violations. I will read some to you. x The Israelis like the following two paragraphs. "Taking note of the ceasefire agreed upon on

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By KLC NARA, Dato 5/12/04

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TELCON
Rogers/Kissinger

12:57 pm

11/5/70

R: Have we got any reply?

K: 10 mins. ago. I am sending it to you. He recommends against it. If we insist he will get sick. They made a violent attack on the President.

R: I think it's a further reason why he should get sick.

K: Your view is --

R: Let me see what Bruce says. I don't think it will amount to a lot. If they made a personal attack on the President this morning then there may be some logic to having Bruce say that he doesn't feel well and taking some days off.

K: They may stall another meeting.

R: Let them.

K: Yesterday I was against it but now I am for delaying it.

R: If they made an attack on the President after we asked for a meeting -- we will decide this afternoon.

K: We'll consult before discussing it with the President.

R: How about Ky?

K: President agreed to see him. They will give us a date before the President leaves tomorrow. Stag dinner.

R: Jesus Christ!

K: We committed ourself to Ky.

R: Why not a lunch?

K: He will not have lunches.

R: He can do a lunch in an hour and a half. A dinner for Ky is not good.

K: That's why we recommended lunch. I will raise it again. Haldeman probably said ne never gives lunches.

R: How about breakfast.

K: Yeah.

R: He hasn't behaved well (and it should be low-key).

By KHLW NARA, Dale S/12/04

TELCON
President/Kissinger
1:00 p.m. 11/5/70

P: I am tied up with the Ambassadors thing.

K: I have a number of items. If we could do it this afternoon.

P: What about the private talks?

K: I talked with Bruce who is against it but willing to go along. I just talked with Bill. They attacked you and Bruce could get sick.

P: They can't have it both ways. A little coolness might be helpful.

K: Yesterday I was dubious but today I am leaning towards Bruce's getting sick. They knew there was a meeting and they made the attack.

P: Why not just say we cannot arrange the schedule for that day.

K: He already accepted the date and time. Otherwise it would be easier. 24 hours after agreeing to the date he would cancel it.

P: What does Bill think?

K: He feels now that perhaps we should cancel it. We will agree to the text of what he said and if it's a personal attack on you we should cancel it. We haven't gotten the text yet. An hour or so. If the date hadn't been set --

P: It should not have been without checking with me.

K: They did it without checking with us.

P: Bruce should point out heavily that our VN policy is endorsed by what happened in the Senate.

K: No question.

P: Defeat of Tydings, Gore and Goodell.

K: Fine.

P: You see my problem. It's not good to let them kick us. If they kick us militarily we will let them have it. No fooling around.

K: That was a very strong message to get to them.

P: We are playing for keeps. If they wanted to do something it should have been in the election.

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By KHW NARA, Date 5/12/04

TELCONE

M. Berger/Kissinger

5:20 pm 11/3/70

K: What are you taking me away from a Republican landslide for?

B: Is it?

K: I can't see it.

B: Because of what you said on Chile no one wants to talk.

K: You are nice and neither do I.

B: Are we re-evaluating differently? What do we mean by Marxist? Will we take steps or leave it up to them?

K: Essentially yes but I don't want to talk about it.

B: Do you have any idea what ______ this guy is?

K: Yes.

B: Why don't we send him a note?

K: We sent an oral congratulatory note. Talk to State.

B: As soon as you say something they are afraid to.

K: They are? I have no idea how to terrify them.

B: I have an article in front of me on the Passions of Henry Kissinger.

K: It's a real assassination job.

B: I thought there was no room for knives.

K: It's the worst. So violent it's amusing.

B: Back to Chile.

K: I will answer and I shouldn't so I think I'd better go.

B: Chile is one of my things on a new job.

K: You will do a distinguished job.

B: When did we decide to phase out these 3 meterological bases?

By KHC NARA, Date 5/12/04

*

Berger/Kissinger

5:30 pm

11/3/70

-2-

K: 2-3 weeks ago.

B: Connected with the Allende election?

K: That was marginal. We are continuing military shipments.

B: Isn't our freedom of movement harmed by fact that if we don't the Russians will move in?

K: That's why we are watching.

B: Did they want to cut off for that reason?

K: We will let it take its course.

B: Vaky has the report but I can't talk with your staff.

K: Nachmanoff is taking over there.

B: He'll be just as bad.

K: You are in trouble but I can't help you.

B: Any news on the M.E. ceasefire? Israel said they will abide by standstill because the U.S. proposal was for 90 days.

K: I hadn't heard that. I hope to see you fairly soon.

B: Am I more acceptable now that I am on a newspaper?

K: You are too good.

B: It's impossible to get a handle on Chile.

K: Because it's a real problem.

B: First Marxist government.

K: German Social Democrats are Marxists.

B: So why the problem?

K: He is a revolutionary. I will see you soon.

B: How about Czechoslovakia? Was that a free electing ________?

By KCLW NARA, Dato 5/12/04

TELCON
Wm. Sullivan/Kissinger
morning 11/6/70

K: We have a date for KY. Breakfast, the 24th

S: OK. Let me tell you what I gather indirectly from contacts for military people have had over in Pentagon. He plans to come well in advance of that date and trip around the country visiting military installations and doing public speaking. West Point --

K: He should do that after seeing the President.

S: New they want to bring him in here on the 10th.

K: My recommendation is that he not margin become a public issue until after the President sees him.

S: Then push this other after seeing the President.

K: That's my recommendation. At least only do the first visiting part first.

S: He is speaking to the National Press Club, Commonwelath Club in San Francisco -- which I don't think is a very good city for him to go to --

K: I have to go to the NSC.

S: We may have to fight with Diem on this. We also have to deal with substantive thing he is talking about.

K: I don't know how the hell he is.

S: A freeagent.

K: We shouldn't operate on Theiu through Ky.

S: We have to preserve President from that. His ideas are imaginative but -- what how do we play Ellsworth?

K: Hewill attend the meeting if he is here.

S: Has he asked for a date with the President?

K: He will get one. I have to run. Have we heard from Bruce?

S: He says OK but he warns that the other men will not agree.