Re: phone tree, the open line is open 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week

DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958, Sect. 3.6

By: K.L. W.

NASHA, Date: 5/12/04

TELCOM

Mr. Kissinger/Rowland Evans
7:00 p.m. 2/16/72

RE: Henry, I have some advice for you. Come back in one piece.
If you have any phone numbers, save them for me.

HAK: You mean Chinese numbers?

RE: I will be there next year and any that you can give me. And
God speed and I hope everything goes well.

HAK: Well, if you do go there I will see what doors can be opened.

RE: Seriously, I am not involved in politics, but I hope it works.

HAK: Thank you and maybe we can see one another when I return.

RE: Yes, save me a nugget or two.

HAK: Okay.

H. Kissinger and Robert Toth open lines for the press conference.

DECLASSIFIED

E.O. 12958, Sec. 3.6

By: K.L.V. NASA Data: 5/12/64

TELCOM

Kissinger/Robert Toth

2/16/72 7:04 p.m.

RT: I am going up to see your brother.

HAK: For what reason?

RT: To do a piece on the other Kissinger. He said I always thought you were paying attention to the wrong Kissinger. If you might want to have me ask him anything or if there was anything about which I could quote.

HAK: He can take care of himself. He is the charming Kissinger. My reputation is a myth but in his case, it is true.

RT: Is he older or younger?

HAK: He is younger.

RT: .... gave me a description and I said what Kissinger are you talking about.

HAK: What was the description?

RT: An ego problem and how hard he works his employees

HAK: I don't have an ego problem, just because I think I am better than anyone else. I am joking.

RT: I was going to ask to see you folks.

HAK: They are on vacation, and I have grounded them. They are defenseless with news people. My father is 80 years old and a total innocent. How he grew to be 80 and remain that way, I don't know.

RT: Is there anything about him?

HAK: I think that he will have to fend for himself. It is courteous of your to call. Maybe I'll see you when I get back.

RT: I hope so.

The president of the republic for the state of Delaware
Designated State Officer

CLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958, Sept. 3.6

By: KHLW NAFIA, Date: 5/12/04

TELCOM

Kissinger/Haldeman

2/16/72 7:15 p.m.

HAK: I am cleaning up some things. I have an invitation from the Republican National Committee to a March 2nd date for 1500 delegates--I think it is a bad forum.

BH: You shouldn't do any political thing.

HAK: Okay, fine. I think my best forums are the senior leader ones.

BH: Yes, because you can tend to level with them and snow them.

HAK: Do we have a group in New York? I will be up there on the 15th. Nelson's group I know very well -- I know all of them.

HAK: KMXMXK It shouldn't be the Nelson people--maybe we should have Buckley do it. I think we should do one in New York and some of the other big cities.

HAK: Let's aim for the 15th in New York. I am sure Nelson will do it in New York, if we want it. For him to do it, wouldn't be an extraordinary thing. Buckley would do it.

BH: Then we can explain to Nelson

HAK: I tell you he is really working for us this year.

BH: He sure didn't do it before.

HAK: He had a group in for dinner Friday night--media and ______
people--then afterwards he spoke when he separated the men and
ladies--Javits was there.

BH: He is going all out this time

HAK: He is convinced that it is essential that the President win.
Good. see you on the plane.

BH: Okay.

The telephone call is the most confidential
medium for the transmission of confidential
information.

DECLASSIFIED

E.O. 12958, Sec. 3.1.6

By: KMLW NARA, Data: 5/12/04

TELCOM
Haleman/Kissinger
late a.m. [x] 2/16/72

K: I have been asked by the Advisory Group of Chicago to appear there. Is it a good one?

H: No.

K: I have so many invitations and I don't want to put them into Colson's (hands).

H: Send them to me. They will huckster you. Chicago Advisory Council will be like Kiwanis.

K: Suffolk Republican Club in Mass. wants to give me an award.

Kx

H: You shouldn't take a Republican award.

K: And in Boston there will be demonstrations.

H: There will be some you should do.

K: After the L. A. group there were things you thought I should do.

H: Advertising Club has no influence.

K: You plan them. I leave that in your hands. When is he coming back?

H: He has a 4:30 appointment.

K: He is really working and really beginning to grasp it. He is asking good questions.

H: The right kind.

K: I am now relaxed. He is on it.

H: He needs to go through that.

K: Monday I was in dispair. Now it's a question of how much he will cover. It's no embarassment to him to turn to me and get factual details. As long as he knows where he is going. I am confident now. It's not what I told him but what he told me.

H: He has to work it out. Suddenly the machine starts to grind.

K: Do you think I should call Mrs. Nixon and talk with her for 15 mins?

DECLASSIFIED

Authority EOLASEX
By LUPARA Date 07/17/72

TELECON

Dobrynin

2/17,72 8:25 a.m.

D: I have to tell you good-bye.

K: I have a little note for you on that issue you handed me something, but we have
so many people coming in here I will send it over to you, or if you after we leave
I will have someone pick it up from General Haig.

D: I will send the same man.

K: All right, around 11:00. I can tell you now it's a very conciliatory note.
Otherwise, for your information, I would pay no attention to the news stories
of massive economic aid programs we are starting. This is for your information --
there is absolutely no truth in it.

D: Well, thank you for your last words before going. You are leaving around
10:00?

K: Yes, but we have a meeting here of Congressional people at 9:00.

D: But no one is going from there?

K: From the Congress?

D: Yes.

K: No

D: Thank you very much for calling.

K: Okay, and you will have someone pick it up?

D: Yes, around 11:00.

K: And if you need to get a message to me, get it through General Haig. We have
quick communications and it's very secure.

D: . . . . . okay . . . . and I will mention to my leaders that we can be in
tohach in case.

K: Exactly, and I will see you very soon after we get back -- within two days.

D: Okay Henry, have a happy landing and come back.

K: I understand some of my colleagues want to leave me there. If you hear some-
thing happened to me in a plane crash in Mongolia, don't believe it.

D: I will not.

TELECON

Dobrynin

2/17,72 8:25 a.m.

K: I have a little note for you on that issue you handed me something, but we have
so many people coming in here I will send it over to you, or if youx after we leave
I will have someone pick it up from General Haig.

D: I will send the same man.

K: From the Congress?

D: Yes.

K: No

D: Yes, around 11:00.

D: . . . . . okay . . . and I will mention to my leaders that we can be in
toach in case.

D: I will not.

DECLASSIFIED

E.O. 12958, Seci. 3.6

By: KHLW NAFU, Date: 5/13/04

Receptionist's file open in
the office of a confidential
Municipal Unit

DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12938, Sec. 3.6

Telecon
Henry Brandon
2/17/72 8:40 a.m.

By: KMLW NASHA, Date: 5/13/04

K: Muffie said something about getting Chou'd signature on something which would probably be not too hard to do.

B: That would be marvelous.

K: But what was it? I called yesterday and couldn't reach you.

B: She has gone to Boston; did you leave a message?

K: My office is getting so bureaucratic I am sure there were messages between my two secretaries who were handling it, but not for you.

B: When are you leaving?

K: About an hour.

B: She is in the air now. If I left a message at the White House it wouldn't...

K: It would reach me, but I don't know whether I would get the document.

B: You remember that book of Chinese paintings that she gave you?

K: Yes.

B: It could have been that.

K: No, it was a map of Peking or something that you have.

B: If you can get his signature on something else I am sure Muffie will love that.

K: I will do what I can.

Re: a phone call with a person I don't know, but it was really interesting.

Re: a phone call with a person I don't know but it was really interesting.

CLASSIFIED
E.O. 12938, Sept. 3.6

TELCONE
Senator Javits/Kissinger
4:30 p.m. - 2/17/72

By: KHLW
NASHA. Data: 5/13/04

J: Henry.

K: Hello, Jack.

J: I just wanted to say good-bye to you.

K: Arent't you nice.

J: You're going off on a fantastically historical trip.

K: I hope we will live.

J: You know you are going to prepare a place for me.

K: That's right.

J: We'll go once you people open the door. I'm really thrilled about it. I'm very privileged to be living at this time when that door is being opened.

K: I want youto know how I have appreciated your friendship.

J: By the way I still have on the agenda a trip to Egypt.

K: Yes, I understand we were going to discuss that around the 10th of March and I was wondering whether early April wouldn't be a good time.

J: I have a message from a fellow in Germany I want to discuss with you. Let's talk about it when you get back. If I go it will be under cover.

K: By all means. Let's have breakfast.

J: When are you due back?

K: The 28th.

J: Have a marvelous time and see if you can get a Tang horse for me when you are there.

K: You're less demanding than your Governor. He wants a Tang camera.

J: Henry, have a marvelous.trip. See you soon.

Re: what's the use of a telephone in daily life
Is it useful?
Please read the article

DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12938, Sept. 3.6

By: KHL
NASHA, Data: 5/12/04

TELCOM

Senator Goldwater/Mr. Kissinger

10:10 p.m., February 28, 1972

K: How are you?

G: Fine.

K: I just got in and I wanted to talk to you and also suggest breakfast on Wednesday.

G: When?

K: Wednesday.

G: Wednesday seems all right, yeah.

K: Good. Why don't we do that. I just briefly want to make a number of points about that communique which has apparently not been caught by some of our friends in a hasty reading. One, the problem of withdrawal made on peaceful ......... Second, the reduction of forces is merely a restatement of the Nixon Doctrine ......... that none of the forces in Taiwan are combat forces ...... no condition of whether it would be this year or next.

G: Make it clear.

K: I think the President made it clear. Have you seen what the President said tonight?

G: No; I have a bad leg and can't move too much.

K: I said it on Chinese soil that the commitment was unimpaired and the President said it on his arrival tonight. Thirdly, ..... about Taiwan is simply restated policy. The President said it on national television.

G: Have him make it goddamn clear tomorrow. Some of us are hanging to have it clear.

K: The President will make it goddamn clear at the Leaders meeting. Will you be there?

G: Yeah; I've got a leg I can hardly walk on but I'll be there. Have him make it clear. We will back him if he doesn't deviate from what he told us before he went over there.

K: Okay, Barry.

A U.S. Air Force F-15E intercepts and destroys a group of ten Sovietkreisflotte戰闘機.

DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958, Sept. 3.6

Gov. Reagan

February 28, 1972

10:30 P.M.

By: K.H. W. NASHA, Date: 5/13/04

R: Well, welcome home.

K: Thank you.

R: I caught your pilot and think it ought to make
a good series.

K: I have been hoping I have become a leading television figure.

R: You have sure been dominating TV the last several days.

K: I bet we have.

R: We just got back. . . .

K: I wanted to talk to you. Did you see the President's statement when we arrived tonight? I think there is not a full understanding of the communique. We thought we had pulled a real cool . . . with this communique.

R: This is what I was going to tell you. I sat here and I said that the position with regard to Taiwan is what it always has been. . . . We are making the decisions.

K: We make the decision on the reductions on whether they are needed or not. Once we determine that peace is made.

R: Toward the end of the week there is no question that the press was desperately trying to find something to build criticism. They were saying that there was a great diplomatic error. That by rights you should have sent a second echelon team instead of the President.

Nothing is going to happen. I was in both Iowa and Nebraska making speeches and then on to Government conferences. In several press conferences I said look at what we are saying and that it is what we always intended to say.) He went to establish communications and that is what he is doing.

K: You have to look at other things. On trade exchange and diplomatic contacts. We got them to make an unenunciation of force. Communists don't keep their bloody promises. I don't believe any addition to it except to say that here we have gotten them to be publicly not to discuss what we got privately. Which when we meet, I don't want to discuss this on the telephone. Imagine Chou talking to his . . . when tensions ease. And finally (I don't know whether that it was reported I reaffirmed our commitment to Taiwan.

The Times, Sunday Times, London
The Times, Sunday Times, London
PUBLISHED
REPRODUCIBLE BY WHAT MEANS

CLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958, Sec. 3.5

By KHLV NASHA Date 5/12/04

R: Let me tell you that here in the papers:

EXAMINER
Herald Exchange - Major concession to Red China.

EXAMINER
San Francisco Exchange - Nixon ends Taiwan pledge.

Tonight I heard and it satisfied me.

K: In Shanghai what did President say that we have reached - and we have agreed that we will reduce troops as tensions ease and our objective is to withdraw them as peace is made. That has been our policy all along. I reaffirmed our pledge in Shanghai

R: Is there -- I have understood the delivery(?) of the President's position. Is there some way that there can just be some flat way and rather shortly before this thing begins to. . . a position reaffirming our position. Jim Buckley called and he knew what was going to be said and I told him how I felt. Do you suppose that the President would reaffirm. . . . Pledge of support to Chiang Kai-shek. I just feel that maybe this is an important thing to do.

K: You don't think he did it tonight?

R: For me yes but not for the average man.

K: The one problem we have this week is coming to a certain point publicly without it being complained by Peking. (?) If we make too many statements we will wind up in a position where they will start screaming.

R: What would happen if Ron Ziegler would say look and quote the President from his speech and say this is a clear declaration that we are still honoring our treaty with Taiwan?

K: We will do it before the week is out.

R: This would be good.

K: If not sooner it will be done in the 3rd briefing.

R: I know what you are saying - because if he says too much the other side. . . .

The President's Office of the Vice President
The White House
Date of this Communication
Prepared by Staff

By: KMLW NASA Date: 5/13/74

TELCOM

The President/Mr. Kissinger

10:55 p.m., February 28, 1972

K: I thought it was better if I finished with Reagan.

P: No, no; that's all right. How are things going?

K: In great shape.

P: The Taiwan thing -- I think what has happened on Taiwan is the Washington Post coming out and saying Nixon agrees to withdraw from Taiwan.

K: Reagan says there has been a little trouble with the evening papers there.

P: What did he say?

K: He never doubted you. He read the Communique and knew this is our policy; the Nixon Doctrine. He said you have to remember the press has been dying all week long.

P: He did, huh.

K: And he heard what you said tonight.

P: He heard the speech.

K: He said he was proud of you. The only other thing he would suggest is that we plant a question for Ziegler tomorrow asking, "What about our defense commitment?" and then we could answer, "As Dr. Kissinger said in Shanghai and as the President said last night, the defense commitment still stands."

P: Think we should do that. Good.

K: Barry Goldwater is a little more difficult. He wants to make sure you explain it properly tomorrow morning to the Leaders and I am going to have breakfast with him on Wednesday.

P: Buckley is working on him.

K: In Reagan's defense, Jim Buckley called him this morning trying to get him agitated.

P: Jim Buckley is lost, huh?

Re: [insert president's or other official title here]
Nancy, Bill, or [insert name of official]

DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 1295B, Sept. 3.6

TELCONE
The President/Mr. Kissinger

10:55 p.m., February 28, 1972 -- page 2

K: No. To put it more fairly, he asked Reagan what he thought he should say. Reagan told him to just say you are sure the President didn't undermine the defense commitment.

P: We said it tonight; what else can we say.

K: Reagan congratulated you. He said this was one of your greatest weeks as President. Nancy was equally enthusiastic.

P: She was. Reagan can see it in terms of political impact; in terms of television impact.

K: Reagan said he caught your pilot last week; you can sell it as a series.

P: (laughter) Good, fine, Henry.

K: We acted a little too strongly to the Washington Post.

P: Bill has quite an influence. (Buckley)

K: We made a mistake taking him.

P: (agreed)

K: There would have been a lot of columns he couldn't have written if he hadn't been along.

P: I don't know how to handle him unless I just don't have anything else to do with him.

K: Never take your opponents.

P: Just never take your enemies; I've told Haldeman that a thousand times.

K: You only give them information ..... You know Haig is about as hardline as you can get and he thinks this is the beginning of a diplomatic revolution. I didn't want to bother you before but last week the Russians sent us a message saying "What's going on? You keep criticizing us."

P: We aren't criticizing them.

Receptionist's Office
Mr. Dobrynin's Office
Telephone Call to President

CLASSIFIED
E.O. 12950, Sept. 3.6

TELCOM

The President/Mr. Kissinger

10:55 p.m., February 28, 1972 -- page 3

By K.H. W. NASA Date 5/13/74

K: I sent them a message saying quiet down; we are serious about pursuing a detente. Since then there have been no opposing articles and TASS so far has communicated only in a very factual way.

P: Get a meeting with Dobrynin and it's probably worth it to bring him in to see me for a few minutes.

K: Do it after, not right this minute.

P: Why?

K: What worries me is these sons-of-bitches, they may get word to Peking that they met with the President as soon as he came back.

P: You see him.

K: I am having lunch with him on Wednesday.

P: Tell him the President said he does want to see you prior to the trip. He wants to have a good off-the-record meeting with you to get your advice. Set it up for a little private dinner.

K: My experience with the Russians is that you never lost by having a dinner (?)

P: Hang that out there. Let him get the word to his government that he will be seeing the President. Get some rest, Henry. You ought to feel pretty good about this.

K: You did it all.

P: Poor Rogers. I think you are right; he will be for this after the public reaction. We didn't stack that audience.

K: There were demonstrators there too.

P: A few. They were with us; they started to clap when the plane drove up.

K: And the Cabinet was there. If things were tough -- they never have been out when things are tough. Eliot Richardson said this was a diplomatic master stroke.

P: He sees it. Why didn't Bill see it?

DECLASSIFIED

Authority: Eulalia
By: CNARA Date: 5/2/81
CH

Telcon
Gen. Haig/Amb. Dobrynin
Friday, Feb. 25, 9:10 a.m.

H: I wanted to tell you I had a message from the party -- from Henry. I had forwarded to them the oral note.

D: I understand.

you

H: And they wanted/to know - both the President and Henry - that they have read it very carefully and understand it and Henry will give you a reply at some length upon his return. In the interim they want you to be assured the sentiments of the President are reflected in the policy that has been outlined to you and which he intends to fully implement.

D: Which was mentioned where?

H: That Henry has outlined to you. Specifically he wanted to emphasize our side shares the spirit of the last paragraph of the oral message and will work in the same spirit with energy and meticulously.

D: I understand. This is the message in-between, so to speak.

H: That is right.

D: Well, thank you very much. When is he scheduled - Monday or Tuesday?

H: They are getting in late Monday night.

D: I understand. Thank you very much.

The President's Office is open to the public, but not to commercial or personal use.

DECLASSIFIED

E.O. 12958, Sept. 3.5

TELCOM

Marvin Kalb/Kissinger

5:30 p.m. - February 29, 1972

By: KMLV NAVA Date: 5/13/74

MK: Henry, I think you did terribly well.

HK: Aren't you nice.

MK: That is an extraordinary communique.

HK: Well, I am glad you think so. You know, we thought so, but when I saw the Washington Post headline I wondered.

MK: I had a different view of the Taiwan thing. On the basis of the wording I thought it was artfully done.

HK: I am delighted.

MK: Listen, I am calling you on our continuing project and what I would appreciate is - within the framework that you set before you left - we have to clear time, arrange sponsorships and all. It is a complicated process which requires a bit of time.

HK: I need a co-star - some girl. I don't do things singly.

MK: Who do you have in mind?

HK: You do that.

MK: We would appreciate it if you could give us a date now or as soon as you could so we can clear the time.

HK: I have talked to the President and Mr. Haldeman and I think their reaction was very favorable. Let me see if I can get back to you.

MK: That would be fine.

HK: I want everyone to catch up with their sleep before we push a new problem.

MK: This is no problem. This is the hearing of an asset.

HK: I will let you know in a couple of days.

The telephone is the open line to
the day, here as it is in the
Post Office Box?

DECLASSIFIED

E.O. 12958, Sept. 3.6

TELCOM

Scali/Kissinger

5:50 p.m. 2/29/72

By: KMLV NASA Date 5/12/72

S: It's going to be in the Taj Mahal and you will have a bullhorn and your principle theme will be "Why the People in the People's Republic of China look like the animals in the Bronx Zoo."

H: Isn't that something.

S: You know when he talked like that I wanted to slide under the table.

H: You know and when he talked about his meeting with the Foreign Minister. . .

S: Yes, I sat through all of that you know and one of his assistants said, "Wasn't he great!" and I said "I don't know. It seems like they're stalling for time while more important things are being done." You know I could read the same things in the Peking newspaper.

H: Isn't that something.

S: I sat there taking all those notes. Then Rogers thinking he was really saying something great said, "Mr. Foreign Minister, when you have a problem why don't you pick up the telephone and call me, other foreign ministers do that all the time." I almost fell off the chair. Later, I was asked if he was serious when he said that.

H: John, tell me, are Sidey and Osborne going to be there?

S: Yes, Sidey, Osborne, all the people you asked for.

H: No, no the reason I asked is that all have requested to see me and I thought maybe I could take care of it there.

S: Yes, all those you asked for. It is going to be in the Federal City Club lounge where we will have coffee and a few rolls. Pete Lisagor will invite Karnow making it clear he is being invited on background rules. I suspect that Karnow will go along with the ground rules this time.

H: Well, I will tell him the truth; that I am not trying to hide behind something, but because of the delicacy of this thing. . .

The President of the Republic of the Philippines
Presidential Suite

DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 1295B, Sec. 3, B.

By: KN.Y. NASA Data: 5/12/04

Telcon

President/Henry Kissinger

2/29/72 6:30 p.m.

President: Wondered if you had time to come over for a drink.

HAK: Could I get a haircut first and then come over?

Pres: Sure; have you had dinner? Do you have plans?

HAK: No, I don't believe so.

Pres: I will try to hold it over--did the briefing go over?

HAK: Oh yes, they clapped

Pres: It is better when you are there--and I am not present.

Bill has missed the part on this

HAK: Yes

Pres: Well, hurry and get a fast one and come over when you can.

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MWO EO 12958
Authority

By NARA Date 6/1/67

TELCOM

Mr. Haldeman/Mr. Kissinger

8:55 p.m., February 29, 1972

K: I talked the President into leaving at Noon after all.

H: He just called.

K: The staff plane is leaving later?

H: At 4:00.

K: 4:30 would be a little better but I probably can make it earlier.
What kind of accommodations will I have?

H: What do you want?

K: As much peace and quiet as possible.

H: Villa 15 okay?

K: Is it on the ocean?

H: It is the President's villa. Will you settle for that?

K: Yeah. If Haig goes down with his wife, can you put him up
somewhere? I can take Coleman and he can stay with me.

H: There are three rooms in the villa and you can do anything
you want with those.

K: The major think I want ~~surrender~~ is to be left alone. Are you
taking your wife down?

H: Not at the beginning; she may come down later.

K: If Haig went, he would want to be put somewhere besides my
house.

H: We could put him up at the Sonesta.

K: Let me talk to him about it. I can take Coleman to answer the
phones.

H: That's why I take Larry, to let him answer the phones so I don't
have to worry with them.

TELCORN

Bob Haldeman/Mr. Kissinger

7:55 p.m., February 29, 1972 -- page 2

K: I guess I will take Coleman. 4:30 for the plane. I have to see
Dobrynin at 1:00 and it usually takes till 3:00 or 3:30.

H: Okay; fine.

K: The day is shot anyway by then.

H: We will shift everybody else around and make them all mad.
No; I'm just kidding.

K: I would come back on Saturday early afternoon but I'll let Haig
worry about that. It is a good way to get some rest.

H: I think it is, Henry. Sun and warm weather.

K: Here I just have too many things to do.

H: Bring some good books that have nothing to do with China down.

K: Okay, fine; thank you.

H: Okay, I'll set it up.

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MJD EO 12958

By NARA Date 6/1/04

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MFD EO 12958
Authority
By ____ NARA Date 6/1/04

TELCON
David Frost/Mr. Kissinger
8:58 p.m., February 29, 1972

F: I just wanted to say really welcome home and congratulations!

K: Aren't you nice.

F: How are you feeling today?

K: I feel all right today; I'll probably collapse tomorrow.

F: I think you are being modest about not being able to cope with time changes.

K: ...... but modesty isn't one of them.

F: It is great to have you back.

K: Thank you; you are very nice.

F: Incidentally, one thought that occurred to me. You mentioned at one time that you might be able to do a television conversation. We are having a major event -- a minor event on Monday, March 13. The program moves to the much wanted 11:30 time period in New York. And there would be particular attention on the show if you were talking that day. It would be a stunning day if it is in anyway convenient for you to do it. It could be taped ahead.

K: I will have to check with people here.

F: I know they have a veto. March 13th -- I can not think of any way to celebrate getting a new time more.

K: If I had complete control over it, you can be sure I would do it. This is an election year but after the election, I will no longer give a veto.

F: I know the complexities of this year but it just occurred to me that that would be a day that I would be particularly thrilled if you could do it.

K: You can be sure I will raise it.

F: Will it be for long to see you in any possible case?

K: Why don't we fix a time soon?

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F: I obviously hope to see you soon. Tuesday -- I mentioned the lunch club before -- *New York Times*, mutually lunch club. There are different guests each month -- about eight of us. Tuesday, March 21st, no doubt you will be busy and may not be able to get away in the middle of the week, but it will be an enjoyable lunch if you could make it.

K: It is a little tough for me to get away during the week.

F: It would probably be easier for me to come down to Washington. That last lunch was delicious. I went from there to London via Las Vegas. Dianne was opening in Las Vegas and she sends her love to you.

F: How did the trip go?

K: We achieved everything we planned to. I usually feel let down afterwards no matter how successful.

F: But not this one?

K: No, it went very, very well.

F: The television coverage here was tremendous. The TV correspondents were all so knocked out with being there, half the TV reports were telling the details of their facilities, of what they had. It was very funny while you were actually standing there listening to the President give his speech, John Chancellor and all the networks were showing enormous fatigue. John was saying ______ are you there, and ______ was saying John, are you there?

K: Oh, really. They weren't geared up to communicating 300 miles.

F: Absolutely. I hope to see you soon.

K: Let's fix a date early next week. I am going off to Florida with the President tomorrow.

F: For some well-earned sunshine.

K: It always rains when I go down. If I keep my departure quiet, it may affect the weather. See you soon I hope.

F: Lovely, lovely to hear from you, Henry. Bye, bye.

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9:00 p.m., February 29, 1972

P: We have got it all set up. The 4:00 plane which will be Air Force 2 but it will be nice.

K: Terrific!

P: I think I will go down with Julie at 12:00.

K: It will be the best thing to unwind from here.

P: I talked to Haig. He said Rogers thought that you and I had been taken in by the Communists. Hell, taken in!! Do you think that he thinks that you or I can be taken in?

K: His mind is mixed up.

P: For Christ's sake, Henry, could you ever be taken in? Could I ever be taken in? Will Bill never learn.

K: This is a cold-blooded game; we need it for the Russians. If it serves the purpose, we will go against the Chinese. In two weeks, when this other fellow shows up in Paris.

P: It was nice of you to talk to our children.

K: It was terribly nice of you to let me talk to them.

P: Oh, it was an imposition for you but they want to know what's going on and you did it in such an interesting way.

K: You were very nice to let me do it. I will be doing my backgrounder tomorrow at 10:00.

P: At 10:00. Don't do anything tonight I wouldn't do, Henry. (laughter) You don't have to take my advice. When we get to Key Biscayne, I am going to make Rebozo give you his numbers for 15 years ago!

K: Okay.

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Mr. Kissinger/Barbara Walters
9:30 p.m. 2-29-72

BW: When you came up behind me to put your arm around me I didn't want to look too cozy, so I thought I would talk just a little bit.

HAK: That was great; I didn't realize they were filming at the time.

BW: I have heard so much analysis--one program this evening with Lisagore, Sidey and Mel Elfin.

HAK: They are off.

BW: I think Frankel said that it was all arranged before we went. And the President didn't have to really do anything. We could have gotten more out of it.

HAK: What more could we have gotten?

BW: Something on the prisoners.

HAK: That could not have been put in a communique.

BW: Well, they need something to analyze. I understand the POST said last week that the talks were "deadlocked".

HAK: That is baloney. It went exactly as it was planned.

BW: Most of the criticism was on a personal basis--the president and whether he should have taken Mrs. Nixon and whether he took up too much air time.

HAK: I am going down with the President tomorrow. I think if people reflected about the communique, they will think it is amazing about what we got. We still have a commitment to Taiwan

BW: They are saying we sold Taiwan to allow a few journalists and some trade into China.

HAK: Well, that is childish.

BW: That is what the Democrats will be saying Henry. Reduction of tensions is fine, but they wanted to know if the question of the

The New York Times reported he had been given a commercial
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prisoners came up. Zeigler said he couldn't comment on that.
And the President had said that everything that had taken place
was brought to the surface for the news media--so there is some
conflict about what had transpired.

HAK: The NYT has been betting. What have we given up

BW: We have given up our backing of Chang Kai-shek.

HAK: We said that our troops would be withdrawn in the world report.

BW: We didn't say that to Chou directly though--that is the only meaty thing that came out of the communique though.

HAK: The signing up of the five principals, these various areas of trade--ping pong was a headline story only 10 months ago.

BW: It was the only question of Internation dispute discussed--
This is what the nitpickers will say. Everyone says you did a
great job and the President made an excellent appearance. We
are interest in China and we are now going to be in a great sense
of peace and

HAK: Well, I call to see if you would ease my days at Key Biscayne

BW: Well, I am sorry but I won't be going there this weekend;
the next week yes, but I have other plans for this weekend.
Did you open what I sent? Is it too much?

HAK: Yes, it is fine

BW: Regarding the silk, the only one I want back is the black with
red circle. If you need a blue broquet silk, I have a piece of that.
If you don't need all the braclets and medallions, just send them back.

HAK: No, I have enough people to whom I can give them.

BW: Also, I have one of the acupuncture dolls and a watch with
one hand which is a red guard for children's sex gifts should you
want them. I would like to have the alarm, but I have 5 dolls;
should you need any of them, you are more than welcome to have them

HAK: Well, Julie was to get me some gifts for the children. I'll have to check with her.