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Secy Rogers
Mr. Kissinger
2-3-69 6:00 PM

R said he guessed K had received message from de Gaulle saying
he was very pleased about the trip. K said yes.

R said Pat Dean had sent him copy of memo he gave to K - K explained
that Dean was in to say goodbye.

K said President is going to Key Biscayne this week end and has been
asked him to go along. HAK said Pres asked K to tell R that he
would be more than welcome if he would like to come - entirely up to
R. R said he has to realize he is Pres and anything he wants he
can have - its not R's pleasure, it's his. R asked K to tell
him that. R finally said he would go along and asked when they were
leaving - HAK said about 5:00 on Friday, coming back Sunday night.

K said Pres wonders if they could agree to 4 power meeting in
principle, but say something about proposing bilateral talks. R asked
K to draft something on the note in answer to de Gaulle and they
could look at it tomorrow morning. K said he would check with
Joe Sisco too. K said announcement would be made from State Dept
but in low key.

jm

DECLASSIFIED

Authority E.O. 12958
By DS NARA Date 4/15/06

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Ambassador Lucet (France)
Mr. Kissinger
2-3-69 7:30 PM

K said he had told President about their conversation and he is delighted to accept de Gaulle's invitation to stay at the Quai D'Orsay. Black tie dinner o.k. K said Pres would also be pleased if the preparatory work, including the substance, is confined to the Ambassador and K - of course, including the Secretary of State where appropriate. K said unless there is strong preference on their side for an emissary, we would be willing to go along with de Gaulle. K said Pres de Gaulle should be advised that we are willing to spend 48 hours in Paris, which will be the longest stay on the trip. Amb Lucet said he would be back in touch with HAK after he hears from Paris.

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Joseph Sisco
Mr. Kissinger

2-3-69 7:30 PM

HAK asked whether Rogers had told S about K's conversation with
the Pres. S said not yet. K said Pres has decided he will accept
four power idea in principle but what he will do in order
to see whether this four power approach can be fruitful, is to
instruct Yost to initiate bilateral exploratory talks. HAK said
R had asked him to draft note which expresses President's views
on this, which he has done and he would like Hal Saunders to
work with Sisco on this. HAK said we are LDXing it over to S now.
S said he would be back in his office in about 20 minutes. HAK
said Pres would like this put out by State - low key - on Wednesday.
Would therefore like background briefing that doesn't raise too
many hopes and doesn't promise too much.

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Walt Rostow

Mr. Kissinger

2/3/69 7:40 PM

Re Rostow's trip to Washington on the 21st - changed to 20th.
K said he had called President Johnson yesterday. WR said Tom
Johnson had told him about the call and it was much appreciated.
Pres Johnson accepts arrangement to be regularly briefed - the
idea of weekly lx packages makes sense and that is wholly acceptable.
If Pres Nixon feels some particular matters would require a briefing
by Helms or Wheeler, that could be arranged. Re the weekly packages,
WR said if they know when they are coming, Pres Johnson will be
available to receive them; otherwise, WR could receive them. K
said we would be glad to do whatever fits into Pres Johnson's working
habits. K said we will probably be sending down
the first package the end of this week.

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President Eisenhower
Mr. Kissinger
2-4-69 8:35 AM

Pres E said in view of press stories his sending a personal and confidential letter to Pres de Gaulle would be almost an affront. HAK said he did not think so and explained why - thinks it would be of tremendous significance. HAK told Pres E he had seen the French Amb yesterday and that of the Amb had volunteered the info the last American President for whom De Gaulle had had any respect had been Eisenhower. Both agreed that Eisenhower's letter would have to be recast a bit and that reference to itinerary should not now be in the letter. E asked K to draft letter as he thought it should be and to get it back to him. E will then send to French Embassy.

K said that Pres Nixon had ordered yesterday that regular briefings be established for Eisenhower. E said that would be fine.

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Secy Laird
Mr. Kissinger
2-4-69 2:25 PM

L said when K talks with President prior to Press Conference he wanted
him to be aware of following. President was fairly strong during
campaign on ABM system. L said last year he opposed the ABM
going forward with system advocated by McNamara and Clifford. What
L is saying now is that this is matter being considered under the
budget review and we are looking at all points involved here. L thinks
press might try to use speech that L made last year against this.
K asked whether that had been put into L's guidance for the Press Conf-
L said yes this just amplifies it. L said he suggested last year that
we should go forward with xxxxx research and development but that
we were not ready to deploy. L said he is trying to change his position
a little bit so he is not too much at variance with Sen Jackson and others
on the Hill. K said he would make sure President is fully aware of this.

L said he will be on "Face the Nation" Sunday/

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Mr. Haldeman
Mr. Kissinger
2-4-69 2:50 PM

Re textile matter - HAK said he would find out from Ellsworth
what commitment was and then HAK will make proposal to
Haldeman.

Discussed Florida trip and whether HAK would
take someone from his staff - HAK will let Haldeman know
later.

Also discussed possibilities for Ellsworth including NATO and
GATT.

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2-4-69 3:40 PM

L said he had sent down a message from Paris which H should be receiving shortly. L said they agree in Paris. L briefly went over items in message. HAK said it would be very small party - President, SecState and HAK. HAK said President would like to return the hospitality and thought Saturday evening would be a good time.

HAK asked about substance - L said he expected another message tomorrow perhaps - since he had not received it yet today. HAK said the President would be writing a personal letter to de Gaulle but was holding off until question of emissary had been decided.

L said he thought he should get this word to State as well and HAK suggested he go to the highest level. HAK said R knows about the dates and L could say that he has or will call HAK.

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John Walsh

Mr. Kissinger
Feb. 4, 1969 3:55 p

Walsh said Cy Vance reciprocates HAK's good wishes -- Cy fully
understands the whole point and absolutely assures HAK that the
only thing he will talk about is the complaint. Should any other
subject come up, he will promptly reject it.

HAK said we don't reject talks if they initiate them; on the whole
we just as soon play it very very cool.

Walsh said the modification he had requested in the telecon with
Ben will be coming over, and HAK can take a quick look at it.

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President Eisenhower
Mr. Kissinger

2-4-69 7:15 PM

K said President had asked him to tell E in confidence that his son's
appointment as Ambassador to Brussels would be made prior to the
President's European trip and that the Pres hoped John would be there
when he arrived in Brussels. E said his son was involved in a course
which would make it impossible for him to leave here before March 27.

E said his son has not heard anything from the State Dept yet and things
are a little embarrassing for him since he is being asked questions
about what he is going to do. K said he would look into the matter and
see what is holding up the announcement.

E said he had sent letter to French Embassy this morning for transmittal
to the General - he sent word that the E Amb could open letter if he wished.

K told E that we have arranged for regular briefings for him starting
next Monday. Helms would be coming first, then Wheeler. K said he
would also like to come by from time to time. E said he would be pleased
to have him do so. It was agreed that E will let the briefer know
subjects he would like to be briefed on the following week.

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Secy Laird
Mr. Kissinger
2-4-69 7:35 PM

Discussed Contingency briefing - HAK said Pres would prefer to do it when Wheeler gets back. L said they could do it now but Wheeler will be back on Monday. HAK said he would talk with the Pres in the morning but thinks he will want to wait until Monday or Tuesday.

HAK said when he saw ~~President~~ L President this afternoon he had said he had been very much impressed by L's intervention this morning and that L should feel free to speak up at these meetings - Pres thought he had made a major contribution.

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Robert Ellsworth
Mr. Kissinger
2-4-69 9:50 PM

K said President would appreciate Ellsworth and Dent putting down on
paper what they thing the commitment is that has been made on textile
matter. He will honor it, but wants to make sure what it is. E agreed
to do so.

K asked E if he would be interested in being considered for the Ambassadorship
to NATO - K said there is no indication that Pres would want E to leave here
but frankly he would like to get a few Ambs that he thought were his people.
E said it was an interesting thought and E and K agreed to sit down and talk
about it in the next few days.

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Richard Pedersen
Mr. Kissinger
2-5-69 9:00 AM

K said they were going to force him to give news interviews if stories like the one in the Times keep up. K said he was calling about questions and answers for President's press conference. P said material was not satisfactory which they received and that they are going over it and will get it to K as soon as possible, perhaps about 11:30. K asked about Sihanouk letter. P said Secy did not have a chance to see it last night (had to have dinner with VP), P has it on his desk and will get it over about 10:00.

K and P discussed NSDM 3. K said he had frankly reached point where he felt anything he sent over leads to a fight. P discussed practice to be followed on appeals in operational matters. K said he had no problem with this, obviously the appeal channel should be up to SecState. K said he would have Larry LDX over the text he planned to take into the President and asked P to LDX his acceptance - he would take them both into the President at tomorrow's meeting and get out another NSDM. Discussed IG material. P said Secretary will exercise policy authority over what State Dept puts into IG. Once report is finished, the report will be sent to the NSC, the Secretary and other Secretaries involved.

2-5-69 9:10 AM

P called back to say Secy is concerned about Times story and wants to get NSDM thing out today. HAK said that is really blackmail. HAK said it would have been done a week ago except for their objections.

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Prof E. H. van der Beugel
Mr. Kissinger
2-5-69 9:30 AM

HAK explained to van der Beugel that he has to leave for Florida
with the President on Friday and will not return to Washington
until Sunday night or Monday afternoon and would therefore
not be able to see him here on Sunday. HAK said if there is
a courier plane going to Key Biscayne, perhaps VDB could come
down to Fla on that on Sunday. VDB explained that he has to
be in NY Sunday night and is leaving for Holland Monday night,
but would be glad to go to Florida so long as he gets to NYC
Sunday night. If this cannot be arranged, HAK will telephone-
VDB on Sunday and they will-

HAK agreed to leave message at Regency Hotel in NYC where
VDB will be staying on Friday night or at the Mayflower
in Washington on Saturday. If Florida deal cannot be worked
out they agreed to have a long chat by phone on Sunday.

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Joseph Alsop
Mr. Kissinger
20x 2-5-69 10:10 AM

K apologized for problems they have been having with dinners lately.
Agreed to come for dinner on Feb 14. A said he is also giving dinner
for Lord Harlech on the 20th and HAK said he would love to come to
that.

A said he wanted to talk with one or two of K's staff, especially
Sonnenfeldt who he understands in one of top experts in the Government
on Soviet matters. K said he wanted to think about it - that
he had told his staff they were not to be in contact with the press.
A said he thought he was making a mistake - if you don't trust the
people you trust, there is no one who can defend you. HAK said
that was a good point. He said there is something he would like to
discuss with A but not on telephone and they agreed to try to
have a meeting in the office next week.

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Secretary Laird
Mr. Kissinger

2/5/69 2:10 pm

Secy Laird called to say he hoped HAK would let him make any contacts
with military for a while. HAK said only times he will call military
is when he gets a note from the Pres saying "call Gen Wheeler." (as apparently
happened over the weekend) HAK agreed that when he gets such an instruction
he will let Laird know, and then they will discuss how to proceed.

Laird is going to move on the ISA slot soon: Gus Hart, Exec VP of
Quaker Oats wouldn't work hard enough to handle the job.
Paul will stay until March 1st. Laird is looking over Richardson and
Warren Nutter. HAK said they sound good to him. (Laird mentioned
others: a law partner of Jack Irwin, one Robt M Pennoyer; Bob Amory;
George Lindsay; Tim Stanley, but drawbacks to each.)

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Mr. Kissinger
Ambassador Lucet

2-5-69 2:30 PM

K said we have one problem that he would like to discuss with the Amb
and it is raised by the fact that the Pope will be in retreat during
the week of Pres visit to Rome because of Lent. K said now they
will go to Rome for visit to Italian Govt, then to Paris as planned,
but on way we back they will stop in Rome for one hour visit to
the Pope - wanted to know whether this would be agreeable. K said
Paris will still be the last capital visited and that we are counting
in any event on final meeting between the two Presidents on Sunday.
K said they could probably leave Paris as late as 3:30 so the tww
two Presidents could meet as late as 2:00 and then ride to airport
together. L thought all of this would be agreeable.

K said our plax people are flying over two cars for the President,
and wondered what pleasure of de Gaulle and French Govt would be
to our using own automobiles. K said our security people would
feel happier with this arrangement. It was agreed that two presidents
would go in same car from airport but question is whether it should
be Nixon or de Gaulle's car. L thought they would want to use de Gaulle's
car whenever the two presidents were traveling the same car.

K said Ehrlichman will be leaving on Saturday for Europe and would
like him to meet the Ambassador before that. A meeting was arranged.

L asked about the ceremony at the Arc de Triumph - K said the President
has agreed to do this. No speech involved.

K said President would announce his plans at tomorrow's press conf
and agreed to get copy of text of his statement to L later in the day -
said we would appreciate it if nothing were said in Paris before the press conf.

L said he had gotten note from SecState this morning re bilateral talks.

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Italian Ambassador Ortona
Mr. Kissinger
2-5-69 3:35 PM

Amb said he was leaving for Rome tomorrow and would be back on
Tuesday afternoon. Said he would be able to tell K more after
that but as for the subjects, he had indication of following:

East-West Relations, NATO, UN, European integration. They would
like more restricted meeting on China and Disarmament with
particular emphasis on SALT. If there is time, might touch on
South America and monetary relations.

K said that Ehrlichman is leaving on Saturday and asked for name
of person he should deal with on the other side. Amb said he would
cable right away and let K know on Friday.

Amb said he will be calling K's secy for appt on Wednesday.

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SENSITIVE MATERIAL

Attorney General Mitchell
Mr. Kissinger

Feb 5, 1969 6 05 pm

HAK had two items for the Attorney General.

1. Gen. Eisenhower thinks one way of relieving the police situation here in the District would be to get Federal troops to guard Federal Buildings. AG said they'd already thought of that, but no one bothers Federal Buildings. But HAK asked him to drop the President a note, which he could perhaps forward to DDE, about this.

2. President and HAK wondered whether the AG might be willing to serve on the 303 Committee, which is in charge of covert activities of the USG overseas. It would be a way to keep him connected with our foreign policy operations. HAK told him it meets once a week, Tuesdays at 10:00, and its function is to approve new operations which CIA is to undertake, and to review old ones. He said the President wouldn't insist on it if the AG's schedule is too full. Attorney General said he would certainly like to attempt to do it. HAK said he would make sure AG got briefing book the day before and, if he agrees, he would send Frank Chapin by to bring the AG up to date. If AG could spare a half hour, Chapin could tell him what it is all about.

Mitchell agreed to try it, and HAK said the President would be very pleased if he would find it possible to do so.

HAK said, "We'll see you next Tuesday at 10:00. We meet in the Situation Room." He pointed out that the AG would be the senior member of a group which is at the deputy level, but that didn't bother the AG.

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Prof E. van der Beugel (Hague)

Mr. Kissinger

2-6-69 9:40 AM

K said he had diplomatic problem on which he wished VDB's advice. K said VDB's friend, the Foreign Minister is very agitated that we are going to Brussels and not to the Hague. K said reason we are going to Brussels is because of international organizations. VDB said he fully understands and think it is the right decision.

HAK said we would be happy to invite the FM and PM to call on the President in Brussels but we do not want to do it if this creates bad feelings - beneath their dignity, etc. VDB said he thought Bill Tyler's view would be important. VDB suggested that HAK could come to the Hague but HAK said he would have to stay with the President. VDB reiterated that he thought it was the right decision to visit the four major countries and Brussels because of the international organizations. VDB said if FM and PM go to Brussels it should be made clear that the meeting will take place in Brussels because of above reason but will not be distinct from other meeting. HAK asked whether Luxembourg should be included - VDB said it was probably not necessary but K's man in Luxembourg would know.

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Secy Kennedy
Mr. Kissinger
2/6/69 2:20 pm

Secy Kennedy and Mr. Kissinger agreed to meet at the Treasury at
8:00 a.m., Friday, Feb. 7.

HAK mentioned his standing meeting at 7:30--said he would start it and then
get his assistant to carry thru on it.

( HAK told Kennedy that Arthur Burns said he would make himself free at any time. )

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Nancy Dickerson
Mr. Kissinger
2-6-69 2:45 PM

D said she is writing a pice and would it be stupid for her to speculate
that President Nixon and de Gaulle will talk about war in Vietnam.
K said we have not discussed yet subjects we are going to talk about,
but if she wrote this it would be hard to call her stupid. D said it
was good to have someone else in HAK's office right now - she had
a terrible time with his predecessors, particulary the most recent
one.
D and K discussed reassurance of Germans. ND said
she would send him a copy of what she writes.

HAK asked D to come and see him sometime.

jm