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Secretary Rush/Mr. Kissinger
10:35 a.m., March 16, 1973

K: Ken, the President would appreciate it if you would call Dobrynin and, you know, sort of apologize to him and explain what happened.

R: I'll do that.

K: And we want to make absolutely sure that this Ambassador says no more than that one sentence or we're going to fire the whole IO bunch.

R: By God, if he does, we ought to fire the whole goddamn group. I agree because strict instructions have gone out on that.

K: Okay.

R: Now, Henry, I reviewed once again this thing. What was approved by the NSC and by the people that have sent it up to me was a statement. There was no mention of a Resolution of any kind, just a statement with regard to that item -- which, of course, I killed at once.

K: Right.

R: But this goddamn thing is unbelievable. But I'll do that, Henry, I'll call Dobrynin.

K: Right. Now I'm not saying that we can't make a mistake in approving the statement but as soon as it became a matter -- you know, that was probably routine.

R: Well, hell, I would have approved it if the thing was ...... statement.

K: But once Brezhnev appeals to the President, we're in a different ball game.

R: Absolutely, absolutely. I'm not criticizing the NSC or anybody else for that statement because it was routine.

K: Right.

R: But this other thing is unbelievable. I'll call Dobrynin. I'll send over to you a little statement as to what happened.

K: Good. That would be much appreciated.

R: I'm having Sam send me up one. It will be addressed to me and I'll just send it right on over to you.

K: Good. Marvelous.

R: Fine, Henry.

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Secretary Rush/Mr. Kissinger

11:00 a.m., March 16, 1973

R: I just talked to Dobrynin and you'll be pleased to hear he was quite
unflappable about it; he said he understood the whole thing; that it
happens in all bureaucracies; that he didn't see anything wrong with this
Resolution really because it doesn't mention Russia and we're not going
to mention Russia.

K: Good.

R: And it would have been much worse if we had withdrawn it so I think
those troubled waters have a little oil on them now.

K: Well, you are the old snake charmer anyway.

R: (laughter)

K: Anyone who could handle Abrodsomov (sp?) will find no trouble with
Dobrynin.

R: You know, Henry, I was afraid you weren't going to add the "charmer"
there and just say you were a "snake".

[Laughter]

But I think perhaps we're all right. I'm awfully sorry this kind of damn
thing happened.

K: This is the sort of flap that's bound to happen.

R: I suppose but it shouldn't happen. Okay, Henry, thank you.

K: Bye.

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Mr. Bludhorn/Mr. Kissinger

3:04 p.m., March 16, 1973

B: Henry, this is going to take about two seconds to be exact. I know you're on your way -- you're going down to Acapulco--I talked to Bob. Aren't you leaving this afternoon, right?

K: Tonight, yes.

B: Henry, I just wanted to ask you something, which is not applicable to anything you and I have discussed. On April 27th I'm going to have a little thing at my house, which is a little bit far out, but John Ehrlichman is going to be there and John Connally is probably going to be there and Russell Long and a few of your buddies like -- may or may not be buddies -- like Stu Symington and some of those.

K: What day of the week is that?

B: April 27th is a Friday. But I would definitely categorically like to have you. In fact, I talked yesterday to John Ehrlichman -- he said it would be sort of a homecoming--made some sort of a remark because I said I'm going to try to see if Henry Kissinger can come. But Bob's going to be there of course. I'm going to have him there because we're going to show a new movie that was just finished, which I think was a hell of a job.

K: Which?

B: It's "Pink____" and it was made by MacDonovich (sp?). I first called Bob because I didn't know whether I would get to you. I said tell Bob that I definitely want Henry -- I've always wanted you to come to my place.

K: Where is it, in New York City?

B: Yeah, that's right. Well, don't be too difficult, Henry. It's in New York City and it's about one block from the Pierre Hotel.

K: Right.

B: And you bring any date you would like to though. Bob said why don't you talk to Henry direct. And I said I will talk to Henry direct but I thought that he was in Acapulco.

K: Good. Well, why don't I say if I'm in the country, I'll come.

B: Is this an acceptance or a weaseled acceptance?

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Mr. Bludhorn/Mr. Kissinger

3:04 p.m., March 16, 1973

K: Well, I say if I'm in the country -- If I'm on some mission --

B: All right, fine. But if you're in the country, you'll be there, right?

K: That's right.

B: Well, I think it will be a lot of fun. It's just going to be a few people and I think you'll enjoy it because it's not a stiff Washington-type thing and I think it's your kind of a party, you know.

K: Right.

B: I don't know yet whether I'm going to ask Ted Kennedy to come because I don't know whether Ted and John Connally -- you know, I don't want to run the '76 race yet if at all possible because I may want you to mediate it.

K: (laughter)

B: And I think you'd do a very good job. They'll probably offer you an extension until at least 1984. Actually, come to think of it, I think that's what I'll do and we can start a bidding contest on you and we'll see how stingy Teddy is.

K: If I'm still in this job in '76, I might as well stay till '84. I'll be no good for anything else.

B: I think so, Henry, but look you never know. With John Connally, it could be a lot of fun. And with Teddy, it could be very nice, you know in another way. We might make an auction out of it after the movie.

K: (laughter)

B: No, but I think you'll enjoy it. Bob will tell you, the last one we had was really a lot of fun. It's something I want you to attend. Why don't you put it on your calendar for Friday, April 27th. It's the first time I went through one of these formalities but I hope you'll be able to make it.

K: It's informal?

B: Oh, yeah, it's not going to be black tie. So Christ, no.

K: Okay, good. Well, Charles, really unless I'm off on some mission, I'll be there.

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3:04 p.m., March 16, 1973

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B: I think it'll be nice, you know. Otherwise, then I'll let you know because I know you're leaving this afternoon.

K: Right.

B: You're going to be gone about how long?

K: About 10 days. I'll be back on the 27th.

B: Okay. So I hope you'll think seriously on your thing because I do want you to know that my heart is in that thing.

K: Well, I know that.

B: I don't want to sound sentimental but I think it's in my heart for both of us if you still I mean.

K: No, I understood it very well.

B: Okay, Dr. Kissinger.

K: Good, Charles.

B: Have a good trip, sir.

K: Nice to talk to you.

B: I don't have to write you anything about this, right?

K: No, no; I'll --

B: You're going to give a notation, I don't have to go through a lot of baloney with you?

K: No, no, no. If you are sending out invitations, send me one just so that it stays on the calendar.

B: Yes, sir.

K: Okay.

B: If you'll tell your secretary April 27th, the details will then be confirmed by Larry Levinson or somebody will take care of that.

K: Okay. Good.

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Secretary Simon/Mr. Kissinger

3:12 p.m., March 16, 1973

S: Did you get a copy of this wire that just came in? I will send it over to you immediately -- it's unclassified -- it's the final agreement. I thought I would highlight it because I just hung up with George. I wanted to get the sense from him of our conversation last evening.

K: Right.

S: And the entire session today was marked with a high degree of cooperation and congeniality and a fundamental willingness and desire on everybody's part to solve the immediate problem and bring about speedy monetary reform. And the important thing was on key evention.

K: What!

S: Each nation stated and they have a long sentence, which I haven't read yet but George read to me over the telephone. Each nation will be prepared to intervene at its initiative in its own market -- we in New York and they in Europe -- when necessary and desirable, acting in a flexible manner in the light of market conditions and in close consultation with the nation whose currency shall be bought or sold.

K: Right.

S: And that is precisely along the lines that you and John Ehrlichman and the President, etcetera, and George had talked about.

K: John Ehrlichman?

S: Pardon?

K: Did John Ehrlichman get into this?

S: Oh, no, I guess he meant the President when he said he and Henry and I. I didn't know whether he was talking about John Ehrlichman or the President -- I guess that's the President and you and the Secretary.

K: Right.

S: And that there is no obligation with the ability and pattern of consultation and just an orderly system but no fixed rates. And we will only intervene obviously in the currencies that have a parity, which is really only six of them. And that mutual credit facilities will be established and it's envisioned that some of the existing slot facilities will be enlarged. And in enlarging them, we will consider this in a country by country basis in light of the circumstances. So I think we got exactly what we wanted.

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TelCon

3:25 pm, March 16, 1973

Sidney Greeson, NYT/Mr. Kissinger

K: Hello

G: Henyy, how are you?

K: Yes, Sidney, how are you?

G: I'm very well, and you?

K: Okay.

G: You're not being bored to tears these days.

K: No. Not bat, not good.

G: I just wanted to say mostly to find out how you're feeling and to tell you I'll be down in Washington soon and I wanted to know if you'd be free to have a chat or just to see you when I was down there.

K: Well I'll be gone next week. I'm finally going on

G: You're going on vacation?

K: Yea, for a week.

G: My God, how many vacations do you get? Where are you going, Acapulco?

K: Yes.

G: Not bad, not bad. One of my favorite places in the world. When will you be back?

K: Well, it depends.

G: It has to be a beautiful girl back down there to drag you back there that often.

K: I've been there only once. I'll be back about the 27th or 28th.

G: How about lunch early next month?

K: Okay, good.

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TelCon

3:55 pm, March 16, 1973

Mrs. Mogbacher/Mr. Kissinger

K: Hello

M: Hello. Henry?

K: How are you

M: I'm very unhappy. My ~~fox~~ jealous husband won't let me go to Acapulco.

K: Oh, isn't he nasty.

M: Isn't he awful? He said as far *southern* south as I can go is Palm Desert. If it gets too hot in Acapulco, will you come north?

K: Yes

M: Okay. Great. Have you heard from the Newsweek cover man on Project Hope?

K: Yes. He said it's alright if we can find a mutually agreeable day.

M: Oh great. That is wonderful news. The first half of May was not good. Correct?

K: Well, I'd like to wait until the first week of April before I decide.

M: I see. Okay. Alrighty, Fine.

K: Maybe the first half of June would be better but that's probably a bad time for you.

M: Before Declaration Day is the best timing possible but if I can hear from you the first week in April.

K: Well maybe we can do it the second half of Mayl.

M: Yes, that would be the most ideal. Could I ~~pursue~~ the hotel situation andx ~~anonymously~~?

K: Certainly.

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3:58 pm, March 16, 1973

Rowland Evans/Mr. Kissinger

K: Hello

E: Henry.

K: Rowland.

E: I just read an item - that you're going to stay at ______
That's where my home is. For god sakes I stay there
every time I go down there.

K: I'm not staying in the hotel.

E: You're staying in a cottage?

K: No.

E: Where are you staying?

K: I'm staying in a house of some of the Crantons.

E: Oh, on top of the hill.

K: Well, it's about half way down the hill.

E: Well, I was going to tell you to stay at Contadata. That's where I stay. I guarantee you ten days of total solitude if you stay there.

K: Well I'm staying in a house that belongs to ______
It's a nice very pretty place. It's just down the hill from
the Hotel.

E: I know where it is. You'll get a little isolation there.
It's a good second rate place to stay if you can't stay
at Casa ______.

K: What's Casa ______?

E: It's right on top of the mountain. It's way, way up but it's
a little tiny thing. You've got a big house.

K: I wouldn't stay in a little tiny thing.

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E: Henry, listen. What's going to happen to the world with you being gone ten days. I'm very, very worried.

K: Well, it's going to be tough.

E: Are you going to have communications set up down there.

K: Oh yes.

E: A little black box?

K: It's all set. All I want you to know that if anything happens hawkish happens while I'm gone you know who the culprit is.

E: Yes, who pressed the button. Well, seriously, I hope that you have a good time. It is a tough time right now but...

K: You people panic to easily.

E: You think we've overplayed this thing really?

K: Listen we are just frying the fat over the fire. They're not yet ready to ____________

E: Yes I agree with that and I think it's going to work.

K: Of course,

E: Well, no not of course but I still think it will work.

K: Seems like you're getting a little historical ______ is getting a little historical.

E: I agree with that. I don't agree with him and I agree with you on that.

K: But if he keeps writing silly articles it might not work.

E: Well nobody's who reads anybody reads anything but Evans and Knovack and you know that.

K: No but I think it's gotten to be too much but there is a good chance that it's going to work.

E: Listen, have a good time and I'll give you a ring when I get back

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Fred Jkle/Mr. Kissinger

4:38 pm, March 16, 1973

K: hello.

I: Henry.

K: Fred, how are you.

I: Just fine.

K: Where are you these days.

I: Santa Monica.

K: Oh, you're still at Rand.

I: Uh huy.

K: Fred, I understand they've been talking to you already about ACTA

I: Yes, six weeks ago in fact to start it.

K: I see, and I wanted to ask you whether you might still be interested because we would be prepared to ahead with it now.

I: Yes, I would.

K: You know what sort of a job it is. I mean you'd be caught in the crossfire.

I: Things that are coming up though, next year or three years of what I can get.

K: Well, we need a good tough analytical mind over there because on the one hand the Joint Chiefs are getting totally irresponsible and the scientific community is equally irresponsible.

I: I know, uh huh, I hear from them too.

K: So, I don't know who takes the more revolting positions these days.

I: Yes, I know some of the--

K: Fred, if you're still interested I would then be delighted if you came aboard.

I: Well, that marvelous.

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K: And it would be a pleasure to work with you again.

I: I feel honored and I find this is a great challenge. I'll do my very best.

K: Well we will be in touch with you about when to announce it and so forth. It will be in the next week.

I: Fine, then of course I'll be anxious to have a substantive session with you at your convenience.

K: Yeah, I think it's important that you and I understand each other on this, you know, you don't have to follow our recommendations but if you know clearly what the President will not have, there no sense then having a brutal fight over it.

I: Right, right. I was hoping you would want to see it structured in this way, or that your people--

K: On the other hand, if you have any--if there's anything you feel very strongly about, you can be sure that I'll get it to the President.

I: Right.

K: Even if he happens to disagree with it. One of the mistakes that Cherry made is he thought he could out-maneuver the President and if he turned against something then Cherry would start maneuvering all over town and that you just can't do with this man.

I: I wouldn't want to have it done in that way and I like very much the way you just put it and structured it. You may have seen some pieces I wrote internally.

K: Yes, you sent me one last year.

I: Well that was in foreign affairs, internal. There was one internal which Mayor Duffing forwarded to you. I'm not sure you've had a chance to see it.

K: What was the subject. I can't tell anymore what--

I: Analysis of SALT I.

K: I've got to get a look at that. Send me a copy of it.

I: When it's come out of Jardner Tucker's office.

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sK: Right.

I: I worked on the subject with, though you should know, with full access so I'm up to speed.

K: Right. Well I think it's most important we have somebody with your background on this.

I: And, I see these problems that are coming up, so

K: Well the biggest problem we have is the MERV issue.

I: The immediate one I know, yes.

K: What is your instinctive feeling today.

I: If I get more information over the next two months or so from them and maybe one can then converge on something that delays things for a number of years.

K: Delays the MERV development.

I: Yes.

K: Well, that's my view.

I: Then maybe all he wants a little luck.

K: Well you'll find unbelievable opposition to this approach here.

I: Uh huh.

K: Defense, JCS, everybody. But let's talk about it when you get here.

I: Excellent.

K: So, I'll get my people to work, you know, on the technical side.

I: Right, wonderful.

K: Good, Fred.

I: Really looking forward to it.

K: Well, it will be a great pleasure to work with you again.

I: I'm honored, thank you very much.

K: Bye, Fred.

I: Bye

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By DAVID HAROLD CLISKEY

TelCon

4:45 pm, March 16, 1973

Jerry Schecter/Mr. Kissinger

K: Hello

S: Hi, nothing in this world can happen without involving you.

K: That's right. I admit this is true, but when did you find this out.

S: Well, it's taken me a while but it always seems to come back here
particularly on Friday afternoon, and Saturday when you want to
go on vacation. We're doing a cover on Whitland next week.

K: Oh, Jesus, now what have I done.

S: And Sous berger (spP) had a column on Wednesday saying that Whitland sent a letter of protest about bombing last December to President Nixon. Mr. Nixon had Henry Kissinger tell the Australian Embassy the President disdained to answer the letter. With some ugly and hostile remarks to Australian Cabinet members. Our people in New York wanted to know whether that is right or not. That was last December.

K: Oh yeah, I--were there nasty remarks.

S: That's not the Cabinet. It doesn't say anything about what these things were but--

K: It's total nonsense to say that we disdain to answer the letter.

S: Yeah. But the letter wasn't answered.

K: Well, because there wasn't much point in it. You know, there were
official communications. Our Ambassador gave a reply, there
wasn't a written reply. We had our Ambassador give a reply.

S: But you also talked to them here in Washington?

K: Well, because we were leaving town that day, and what happened
was that their Ambassador was on the way back and sent the letter
over.

S: I see, so you just--

K: Well, when you don't answer a letter you don't have to say you're
not going to answer the letter. Wouldn't you think.

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S: That's nice, I'll explain it that way. (Laughter)

K: I think that will become evident--

S: Yeah, when you don't answer a letter, you don't have to--

K: We don't have to--well now listen you will notice we are not
answering that letter.

S: Okay. Well, when would you like to see me in Acapulco? Particularly
if I got a job down there as a beachboy.

K: Oh, I don't take anyone who doesn't have a blond wig.

S: You didn't give me a chance to finish. I was going to bring a
little entourage with me. I could use a little relaxation too.

K: You have never tried to corrupt me and I'll never forgive you for that.

S: Well, when I do, I'm going to do it right. When you come back.
Well, have a good trip.

K: Right.

S: Hope to see you out on the West Coast.

K: Good, that will be nice. Well, I'll be back here before then.

S: Will you?

K: Yes.

S: Good, thanks Henry. Bye.

K: Bye.

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3/16/73 5:30 p.m.

Tom Vail/Mr. Kissinger

TV: Henry?

HK: Tom, how are you?

TV: Fine, thank you. I hear you had a little trouble.

HK: Well yeh, we've run into some trouble that--but we still hope that you will do that Argentina thing.

TV: Well, I'm not really too--I talked to your General and I'm glad you called me so quickly because I was getting to move a little bit and luckily I hadn't done anything about putting my ______ in order but really I kind of agree with you that there are 4 or 5 great diplomatic posts where you are participating in the matters where it really makes a difference and I'm not so enthusiastic about the other. The other one is definitely out is that it--or

HK: Well it looks like that now, yes....

TV: Yeh. I thought maybe your State Department friends had caused you some problems because you know last time when it didn't seem like I could work it out when I had talked to the President in 1969--he said let's keep it in mind. It turned out later that the State Department had run around on several counts and that had made it quite confusing but this time I called him back because he's the one who raised it with me himself--and you know he wouldn't say would you be interested in a diplomatic post--he said he had sort of been talking to me

HK: Oh no, there's no question that he raised it.

TV: Right. As I told him and the General, I didn't want to embarrass the President or you--

HK: No, you don't embarrass me at all

TV: But--

HK: I tried to reflect this as carefully as I can when I'm told to tell you.

TV: Certainly. I tell you another thing in terms of a post like Germany--anx we spent a lot of time there even studying and background and European

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history and so forth, I even wrote my thesis in college 25 years ago about the rise of national socialism. You know there is a lot of things that kind of fit--the other thing just to give you a little background on it--my children raised from the age of 14 to 20 in a place like that, I could work it out with them, both in terms of coming and going and plus an experience for them

HK: Right.

TV: And you know for me to do a A+ job, I think I have to fit all pieces together and I certainly want to. I told the President although I'm 46 years, I would love to have a great challenge like that and retain my interest in politics and so forth, but just talking with friends Argentina doesn't appeal to me.

HK: Let me go back to the President--I'm unfortunately going on vacation for a week.

TV: All right.

HK: Let me come back to you afterwards. I'm sorry that this thing got so screwed up. Some day we'll sit down and talk about it.

TV: Some day also when I'm in D. C. and you are, we'll --I'll drop in

HK: I'd enjoy that.

TV: Henry, let me tell you one other thing--the President started to ask me about Washington and I said well so many of these things come down to what we are talking about because I do like what I am doing --it is a position of considerable influence in the affairs of the country--now if something comes up on that you gentlemont would think more useful I'd like to do it

HK: I'll have a word with the President.

TV: He brought up Washington.

HK: Look, he is the one who raised it with you--I raised it with him as it happened, because you and I had talked the evening before. And that reminded him of his conversation with you so it all fitted together. I'll call you when I get back in 10 days--

TV: That'd be fine. It'll fit very well, because I'm in Palm Beach because my wife's father died and I'm trying to put things together there and I'm going to Jamaica for 10 days while you'll be away.

HK: Good, we'll talk when we both get back.

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Dep. Secy. Clements/Mr. Kissinger

6:39 pm, March 16, 1973

K: Bill.

C: Hi Henry

K: I am on the way out, but I just saw the STAR headline in which those sons-of-bibbing press officers in Saigon have now again have put out the word we've stopped the withdrawal.

C: I haven't seen that, Henry.

K: Well, can't we get these guys under some sort of control.

C: The Press officers in Saigon.

K: But somebody leaked that we stopped withdrawals. We haven't stopped withdrawals. We've stopped daily withdrawals and we will be out on the regular time.

C: Well sure, I haven't had any other thought about it, and I--

K: You know, they get everybody all excited.

C: Well, that's too bad. I don't know how in the hell it got out. Are you saying our people are the press officers are ours overthere released this.

K: I am certain that McVee leaked it out.

C: Well, I'll be damned. Well, that's bad.

K: I'm going to you because I've given up on the other front office.

C: That is bad. I'll be damned.

K: Okay, see whether you can scare the military a little bit.

C: I'll see what I can do with it because the way I'm going to do is go back through Tom on it.

K: Good.

C: I'll take care of it Henry, when are you leaving.

K: Right now.

C: I see, have a real pleasant trip. You need the holiday, and I know

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