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people who have settled there on the matters we have touched
on?

DR. HU: I think we have been in Taiwan--I mean, the -?- so-
called, or the first generation of -?- in Taiwan for 45
years, and there is a considerable degree of integration,
merging together. And the distinction is much less obvious
than before. Of course you tend to get these kinds of
candidates in the elections, which still advocate, "We are
Taiwanese," or we-- You know, using this faction or basis to
solicit votes or political power. But on average I think it
is a much more harmonious--

MR. BUCKLEY: Yes. In the last national election won by
President Lee, was there a division in sentiment between the
natives and the non-natives?

DR. HU: No. No.

MR. BUCKLEY: So for all intents and purposes it is fungible,
is it?

DR. HU: You can still calculate, analyze voting patterns and
all that, but on a social basis and perhaps in the elections,
you don't see that much distinction, I would say.

MR. BUCKLEY: So when you say "the people" of Taiwan are in
favor of going into the United Nations, you don't mean just
one group.

DR. HU: No. No.

MR. BUCKLEY: You mean--

DR. HU: There's a poll saying that 89-92 percent of the
people want us to have a better international status,
including a return to the UN.

MR. BUCKLEY: Thank you very much, Dr. Jason Hu, the director
of the Government Information Office of Taiwan. Thank you,
Dr. Henry Kissinger; thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

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