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By NARA, Date 5/20

Telecon

Don Rumsfeld

9/22/70 7:45 a.m.

R: You looked busy.

K: The truth is I had been up all the night before and honestly
forgot about your call yesterday.

R: I can understand that.

K: My apologies.

R: Not at all. I am fixing to go to San Francisco and what I had
to talk to you about will hold. I'll give you a call after I get back
Thursday.

K: It wasn't done flippantly.

R: I know that. It's okay.

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Van der Beugal/Kissinger

9:26 a.m.

9/22/70

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V: If that is the pinnacle of our hope, where are we going?

K: It looks a little better and we have acted strongly.

V: We are moving from a complete overestimation to a complete underestimation and now possibly to normalcy on this country.

K: We have taken some strong actions in the last few weeks and the President isn't easy to be pushed off course. We have quieted down the VN outcry.

V: It isn't even in the news. I always met a lot of political bastards here and it's striking how different the atmosphere is. It's a completely different atmosphere. They don't love Washington but they see it more ______ now. In May we had the feeling of a country falling apart but ______ no longer.

K: After all, Cambodia has worked. VN is out of the news. Soft policies on the M.E. have been discredited.

V: The only thing that is an absolute non-entity is Europe.

K: We will turn to that after we are above water.

V: I cannot give you any hopeful prediction about Europe. It's a parochial non-existing community. Led by dopes or operators.

K: How about the new British Government?

V: I have great confidence in Heath but he is not on the map. Maybe that's his style. A man of enourmous integrity, brass takks and courage.

K: Maybe just not a little.

V: How is Nancy?

K: Fine.

V: And you are in good shape. You are coming to Europe with the President?

K: If it comes off.

V: That's only the South.

K: Yes but London, October 3.

V: That's a rush visit. I will be here in December and I will come down.

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K: I have a great new office.

V: I saw it when it was planned.

K: It was decorated by a homosexual so it's good for a boudoir.

V: You got my note on the *Duck* Dutch thing?

K: Yes.

V: That's not until November. Miekwe sends her love.

K: And I will try to send her a note.

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Van der Beugal/Kissinger

9:26 a.m.

9/22/70

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K: After all, Cambodia has worked. VN is out of the news. Soft policies on the M. E. have been discredited.

V: I have great confidence in Heath but he is not on the map. Maybe that's his style. A man of enourmous integrity, brass takts and courage.

K: Maybe just not a little.

V: How is Nancy?

K: Fine.

K: If it comes off.

V: That's only the South.

K: Yes but London, October 3.

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Van der Beugal/Kissinger

9:26 a.m.

9/22/70

K: I have a great new office.

V: You got my note on the Dark Dutch thing?

K: Yes.

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Kay Graham/Kissinger

10:00 a.m.

9/22/70

G: We missed you but I wasn't surprised.

K: I get even with you in the most devious ways. Get even, I don't know for what.

G: A desire to get even.

K: It was the Syrians.

G: I now.

K: At 8:30 I was on the way out when the King panicked and then at 10:00, I tried to get out.

G: Ken said when I said I couldn't cope with Sunday night, he said lets find one person. You were number one, the Harris' were number 2, and Ted and Joan were number 3. Liz thought I wanted everyone and invited everyone but the Kennedy's couldn't come because they were campaigning. But the Harris' could come and you and David Brinkley was there.

K: I am sorry.

G: I am trying to relieve you even though you were missed.

K: I haven't seen you in ages. I complained to your daughter the other day.

G: You shouldn't give it a moments thought.

K: I wanted to tell you, you are one of my favorite people and Ken I adore. Beneath that tough surface cynicism, he is a mushhead.

G: I have known him for years but just got to know him this summer.

K: He is a terribly good friend. Has he gone back to Cambridge?

G: No, England, will be back and then on to Switzerland. I think ________ is ghastly. That's a Barbara Howerism but it's true. It's really awful.

K: If you don't quote me, I agree. We are getting slowly on top of it.

G: Are you really? One over for lunch once in a while. Should I invite you sometime?

K: I will probably stop off in Paris to get caught up on the negotiations so I will be leaving this weekend. G: So this week is out. Let's have a cozy evening when you get back. Dinner parties are for the birds and 4 or 5 are nice. Have a good trip.

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Laird/Kissinger

10:35 a.m.

9/22/70

K: You were a great soldier at these meetings. On the little things you fight like a maniac but xerox on the big things you are always there.

L: I think that package over on the supplemental.

K: I haven't seen it yet.

L: A draft decision memo and statement to Congress.

K: I will dig it out. We have been preoccupied.

L: State wants to work out a military assistance package now. It's okay to meet with them, isn't it.

K: Alex says you are no longer interested in a supplemental. He must have misunderstood.

L: That's not true.

K: May I send someone?

L: Sure. It's XXX all in that package. Look at it if you have a chance. I know you have a chance lot to look at.

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TELCORN
Laird/Kissinger

10:35 a.m. 9/22/70

K: You were a great soldier at these meetings. On the little things you fight like a maniac but on the big things you are always there.

K: I haven't seen it yet.

L: That's not true.

K: May I send someone?

L: Sure. It's all in that package. Look at it if you have a chance. I know you have a lot to look at.

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Rogers/Kissinger

10:55 a.m.

9/22/70

R: I notice you are going to Paris to talk to Habib and Bruce.

K: I just thought I would go a day early. No significant.

R: I would appreciate x if you would let me know before you get in touch with m people.

K: The President mentioned it and thought since I hadn't had a chance -- he kne

R: You should let me know.

K: I thought it would go through Sullivan.

R: I mean it comes to me after Bruce and Habib know about it. Are you doing anything about stopping Ky's visit?

K: I won't see him or talk to him. Only see Bruce and Habib.

R: x: What's the President's position on Ky?

K: He wants to keep him away.

R: We have done what we can.

K: I understand there's a guy close to McIntyre who urged him strongly not to come. Haldeman has handled this.

R: We have done a lot. We could x insist he not come. That would be a problem. It's becoming a k problem.

K: I think we have done what we can.

R: I will talk with the President.

K: I have no intention of seeing Ky or anyone else. I thought this was a routine matter that would come to your attention. Haig tells me we called someone in the Secretariat and let you know. We didn't think it important enough to talk to you directly.

R: I will find out who he talked to. They attributed it to the Ky visit.

K: I will see no one except Bruce and Habib. It was the sort of thing that the President said see those guys and get a sense of them. x: x: x: Sullivan did it when he went to Asia.

Rogers/Kissinger

10:55 a.m.

9/22/70

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R: I think the sense of the team is the same. I think Bunker's conversation with Thieu is encouraging.

K: It will show we are working at it when he makes the statement.

R: We haven't gotten an answer from the Israelis but I think they will act.

K: If it stabilizes we will not be that anxious.

R: If it stabilizes we should caution them to wait. If Hussein could pull it off it would be a hell of a thing. They are right up there.

K: From intelligence reports they are moving where they said they wouldn't.

R: And with our support they can use that. After our meeting we should discuss that. It will be 6:00 there and they won't do it that late. We haven't heard from the King. We should because we don't want to do something against his wishes.

K: If they go through Syrai we won't have that problem but a different one.

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TELCON
Rogers/Kissinger

10:55 a.m.

9/22/70

R: I would appreciate x if you would let me know before you get in touch with my people.

K: The President mentioned it and thought since I hadn't had a chance -- he knew.

R: You should let me know.

R: xk:sothx What's the President's position on Ky?

K: He wants to keep him away.

R: We have done what we can.

K: I understand there's a guy close to Mcintyre who urged him strongly not to come. Haldeman has handled this.

R: We have done a lot. We could x six insist he not come. That would be a problem. It's becoming a k problem.

K: I will see no one except Bruce and Habib. It was the sort of thing that the President said see those guys and get a sense of them. Like xk:et Sullivan did it when he went to Asia.

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Rogers/Kissinger

10:55 a.m.

9/22/70

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Telecon
Joe Alsop

9/22/70 11:15 a.m.

A: I need a few minutes of your time. Could you fit me in
tomorrow morning or late this afternoon?

K: I'll try.

A: I know it's tough. You were advertised as such in this
week's New Republic by Mr. Osborne.

K: Complainingly?

A: No. But do you think you could see me?

K: This is a rough time.

A: I know. If Hussein loses, the Israelis will end by invading
Jordan.

K: No question. They may invade without Hussein losing.

A: To help save him.

K: At any rate, we've come out of our period of torpor.

A: We can't go on being torpid when somebody sticks a large
pin in our rear.

K: It's been known to happen.

A: How about 6:30 this evening?

K: Let me call you later. I just have to be sure.

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