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TELCONE
D Chapin
Mr. Kissinger
5:55 PM 1/27/69

C said Defense is now 10:00 AM - asked K to advise Laird. (friday, Jan 31)
State is scheduled for 3:00 on Wednesday afternoon.

Told K his briefing tomorrow is 10:00 AM.

K's briefing on Wednesday is at 9:30 AM; Senator Jackson comes
in at 3:00 PM and Gle n Seaborg is scheduled for 3:30 PM.

Helms is set for Thursday at 11:00 AM.

K asked if he was expected at the Diplomatic Reception on Friday -
C asked said he would check. C asked K whether any decision had
been made on trip for the 9th. K said it would not take place on the 9th.

Secy Laird
Mr. Kissinger
6:00 PM 1/27/69

K advised L of change in Defense visit (from 1:00 to 10:00) on
Friday.

K said Pres is eager to have him, Laird and Bus Wheeler review some
of contingency planning that we discussed on Saturday. After we have
reviewed decision will be made on how to present to NSC. L said he
has a paper on Vietnam which he will have over tonight or tomorrow morning.

When K receives it, L would like to have meeting. K said
Pres is very interested to explore two scenarios mentioned on Middle
East then Berlin and Korea. K said he would have Haig call Pearsely.

jm

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TELCON

Ron Ziegler

Mr. Kissinger

1-27-69 6:05 PM

Talked about "sufficiency". Z asked whether President had changed
his position - K said no he had just elaborated on it. Z asked what
his position is in negotiation. K said he is undertaking a full scale
strategic review in order to determine what is needed to assure
American security. Z asked again whether Pres had changed his
position and K said no he had just elaborated on it in the sense
that what he wants is to try to get away from simple slogans -
"sufficiency" does greater justice to complexity of the problem.
K advised Z not to get too involved in this. Z asked whether K
could have his people send something and K said he would have Larry
send something up.

Z asked on question of reopening TFX - are we going to do that.
K said the first he had heard of it was at the press conference.

jm

TELCONE

Joe Albright of NEWSDAY
Mr. Kissinger

1-27-69 7:20 PM

A asked whether there was any significance in President's formulation
when he talked about American side. K said he meant North Vietnam -
did not mean to suggest significance with GVN.

A said at very end of press conf the Pres xx said there will be new
tactics - would that include secret contacts? K said he thought he
should not get into that.

A asked about motto about "sufficiency". K said it was not a motto
that he has talked about it in his writings - should be in various
public speeches which must be on the record. K said it is a phrase
he has used and is therefore familiar to the President. A asked
if we are now in position of having a sufficiency. K said it is under
full governmental review.

A asked in area of new tactics in Vietnam, did K suppose the new
tactics might include two level talks that K mentioned in his FA article.
K said he would not go into that.

jm

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TELCONE

Dick Sneider

Mr. Kissinger

1-27-69 7:25 PM

K asked whether S had the Japan study started and S said yes. K asked if deadline on Okinawa could be moved up. S said he could have it for him in very few days. K asked for paper he could show the President; what various positions are; how about Feb 20 talks in Warsaw.

K said he does not want to be in position where State operates and
it is all formulated - told S to inject himself into it, enough so that
he is part of decision-making process and get them used to idea.

S said he would do so. K said President is not satisfied with Bundy
theory that they do it - K said this does not mean S has to disagree with
them - he would like to know what they are doing before Feb 19.

K asked S to come in over next day or so and tell him what he knows.

K asked for general brief review of China situation and where we should
be going - asked S to draft a memo. Asked S to also check paper
on Ax Cambodia.

S asked whether the Pres would like to read something on Japan -
K said very probably. S said he would send him a memo he did a
couple of months ago - he will bring it up to date and get it over.

K asked whether all the staff had been asked to give him a briefing
(page or two) at the end of each day - said he had just gotten back to
office and had not had time to check. S said yes.

jm

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TELCONE
Marvin Kalb - CBS
Mr. Kissinger
1-27-69 7:30 PM

Kalb asked when Pres talked today about linking start of missile talks with other outstanding political problems, did he mean that kind of linkage - does there literally have to be progress in other areas before talks can start? Mentioned Middle East as illustration.
HAK said he did not quite understand what Kalb asked whether he meant does he have to have actual progress or would promise of progress be enough. HAK said he certainly wants to change the approach. HAK discussed phrases in 1950s and 1960s - said Pres is trying to say something in between. He doesn't mean we have to settle Middle East issue before we settle Arms Control - have to have some idea that tensions are not being multiplied elsewhere and some movement - some hope of progress.
MK asked whether there is necessary stage of pre-negotiation or can it be as result of normal processes of diplomacy. HAK said it could be either, he thought. Form is not important so long as message gets through and so long as results are achieved. Kalb asked whether there is at this point a plan to approach Russians on a bilateral basis - HAK said we are reviewing it this week.

jm

TELCON
L. Lynn
Mr. Kissinger
1-27-69 9:30 PM

Discussed Strategic paper. K said he would like to call Laird
tomorrow and tell him we have this paper, that it incorporates
what they had discussed, that it is preliminary and his staff
could take it from there. K said he would tell him that he wants
representative from his staff to work with them. K said he would
call Laird and advise him that Lynn, Packard and K would consult
on this.

K told L under no circumstances should his paper be distributed
until K discusses this with Laird. K asked whether Goodpaster
had seen it - L said yes but did not have his reaction. K said
he would read paper and be in touch with L tomorrow.

jm

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TELCOM

Secy Laird
Mr. Kissinger
1-28-69 9:00 AM

L said he wanted to check on the President's visit to Defense.

L said Pres has indicated he would like some briefings and asked
if K had same impression. K said yes he wanted some idea of
general thing on doctrine (tactical nuclear weapons - role of NATO).

L said he would limit that to smaller group then the Pres would be
taken to the auditorium at 11:15 where he would make brief statement
to about 100 of the top people at Defense.

K and L discussed NSSM's - no problem on number 7 - completely
in-house. The other will not be in-house - K said he and Lynn would
talk with Packard about that.

Discussed NSC meeting Feb 12 on Strategic Forces. K said he has
memo which has just been finished on this subject and told L he would
get it over to him today. L asked whether HAK would contact State
to get the person designated and K said he would. L said they would
finance.

jm

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TELCOM
Secretary Rogers
Mr. Kissinger
1/28/69 9 35 a

Rogers referred to an NSC document where there was an omission (NSDM 3?) HAK said the only way to do it is to put out another NSDM with the revision in it. HAK said he would feel happier if Rogers would put it into his own language. I assume Mr. Rogers will be sending over the language today.

HAK also told Secy Rogers the President has pretty much decided to go to Europe early in March. HAK would like to shoot for March 1st. HAK said he had asked for an apptmtfor Rogers later this afternoon to get the trip organized.

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TELCORN

Adrian Fisher
Mr. Kissinger
1/28/69 10:50 a

HAK asked Fisher to give a preliminary briefing on just what the
issues are, before the meeting on the NPT tomorrow*. Fisher will be
in the Cabinet Room at 10:00 for the briefing (when briefing is over, the
discussion will be confined to statutory members).

(HAK said he hadn't cleared the briefing with the Pres, but he is sure
he will agree.)

HAK asked Fisher to do a paper for him, of 2 or 3 pages, which HAK
could take up with the President.

*Jan. 29

N

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TELCON
Secy Packard
Mr. Kissinger
1-28-69 12:35 PM

K said he wanted to talk about review of strategic posture. Asked if P would be willing to talk to Lynn and Goodpaster - thought staff problem about which Laird wrote could be worked out. P said he would be glad to.

K said Pres does not want Departments to follow procedures followed during Kennedy and Johnson Administrations - it is to be done on inter-departmental basis in so far as policy and doctrinal considerations. P said there are some policy considerations to be settled first.

P said he thought Lynn should serve on the Committee and K agreed. P said they have man from Systems Analysis Group and thought they should get someone from State. Asked HAK for any ideas. HAK said Farley might be the right man but said he would be seeing Rogers today and ask him who he wants. He said he would let P know tomorrow morning.

K said when in Florida he and Laird had discussed this subject and K has paper drafted which might be used for the discussion next week - depending on P's judgment.

jm

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TELCOM

General Wheeler
Mr. Kissinger
1/28/69 2:50 p

Wheeler talked to Lodge along the lines "of our conversation yesterday" and this preference he indicated is his personal preference. Wiant would do a good job. There's no question that right now Ginsburgh is the better in terms of his competence, but in terms of his standing he thinks it would be tougher for the delegation to ignore Wiant. This General Loc who is coming over apparently to head the South Vietnamese military delegation is a Lt Gen, so this is another argument that supports Cabot.

HAK said he'll recommend to the President that we agree with Lodge.

It's agreeable to Wheeler -- the other chiefs will not raise a fuss about it.

TELCOM

Gen. Goodpaster
Mr. Kissinger
1/28/69 a

HAK told Goodpaster that "we had another recalcitrant department --
Lynn had told him that Systems Analysis and ISA people are trying to
take over the study and squeezing it into the DPM's." Goodpaster said
that's just what we don't want.

Goodpaster agreed to accompany Lynn to talk with Packard and explain
the system to him -- apart from any specific paper.

HAK has a call into Vance Packard -- he will talk to him and see what
his frame of mind is.

x

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TELCON
Secretary Rogers
Mr. Kissinger
1-29-69 11:55 AM

K said President had asked him a few days ago to arrange briefing
for him on covert operation. It is taking place tomorrow in the President's
office at 11:00 AM. K suggested that Rogers would like to attend and he
agreed to be present.

Rogers said he had not seen memo Richardson gave to K and told K to call
him if he had any questions.

K said he would be coming to State this afternoon with the President if that
was o.k. Rogers said fine.

jm

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TELCON
General Wheeler
Mr. Kissinger

January 29, 1969 12:15 PM

Discussed the NSC meeting and both agreed that ACDA had gotten into some bad habits. W said he had gotten a call on the secure phone from NATO - Cleveland has gotten himself worked up and wants to send strong message that next SACEUR should be an American. He had recalled that K had written an article on the subject and wanted to nail down conversation he had with Brosio that any other solution would not be workable. K said Cleveland should be told his apprehensions are unfounded; it is not necessary for him to send any such message in (wrong approach and could be counter-productive); and that the matter is being handled in a way that will lead to the same result. K said we have the letter in draft now and Andy is going over it.

K said he had talked to the President about Wyant/Ginsberg matter and the Pres had decided to go with Wyant because over longer period he would stand up better. K said hopes W will give him his backing through his channels.

jm

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TELCOM

Robert B. Anderson
Mr. Kissinger

1-29-69 12:30 PM

Anderson said Dean Rusk had called him and asked him to get
word to his friend out there that they would welcome it (?). Anderson
said when Rusk called he asked him by whose authority and Rusk said
Rogers. A said he then received a call from a desk officer at State
telling him not to do this so he has called it off.

A then brought up Malta and Medport project and said he would
send K a letter on this. A said it is written in such a way that
no foreigners should see it. K said he could be sure none would.

A said he had note from the President in which he thanked him
and suggested he come to Washington as soon as possible and have
a talk with Rogers. A said he had called Rogers about this and
Rogers said he would do it in the next few weeks.

A said he would like to see HAK - HAK said to let him know a day
or two in advance and he would clear his calendar.

jm

TELCORN

Secy Rogers
Mr. Kissinger

1-29-69 12:40 PM

Re NATO meeting

Discussed fact that President might want to have heads of
government here but does not want to commit himself one way
or other. On Monday President said the matter of heads of
state government should be reserved for discussion with R and K
after he has been to Europe - may want to invite them while there -
no discussion before he has been there.

HAK brought up message sent over by State about POW telegrams
which he thought was a little cool. HAK said he has slightly warmer
draft and should he send it over. Rogers said that was not necessary,
just to send him a copy of whatever HAK sent out.

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TELCON
Secretary Rogers
Mr. Kissinger
1-29-69 6:45 PM

Re Paris - Rogers asked if K had any thoughts. K said Klein had mentioned this - doesn't know how it could have happened, he was not supposed to. R said it is probably appropriate to have missions start process of invitations - usual working out of President's schedule and subjects, at least in Paris should be done through State emissary.

Discussed President's visit to State - both agreed Nixon had been very tremendous. R said everyone at State is most enthusiastic.

jm

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

Jan 29

HAK:

Governor Scranton called to say if you have
not found an Assistant Secretary of State for
Latin America, he has following name to suggest.

Walter Samuel Carpenter, 3rd, of Wilmington,
Delaware. Carpenter's father was President
of DuPont and Walter Carpenter is presently a
member of the Board of Directors of DuPont.
He is 53 years old, a graduate of Princeton.
Last year he resigned as Manager of International
Department of DuPont (a position he held for
nine years) because he did not think they were
doing the kind of international job they should.
He is thoroughly familiar with LA, speaks both
Spanish and Portuguese extremely well - fluent
in Spanish. Strong Republican and major con-
tributor - member of Executive Committee of
Adela (international Banking association.

Scranton knows Carpenter and knows him well,
but he is not aware of Scranton's call to you.

Gov Scranton asked me to tell you he wishes
you the best in the world and if there is anything
he can do to be helpful on the Middle
East situation, he's at your disposal.

Joan

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TELCOM

Prime Minister Gorton - Australia
Mr. Kissinger
1-30-69 9:15 AM

HAK explained that President was out of building and wondered if he could help. PM said he wanted to offer congratulations, etc., to the President and he would do that when he spoke to him. PM said President and he did have exchange of telegrams previously - if at all possible it would be very helpful if he could come to Washington sometime between March 30 and April 12. HAK said he would certainly put it up to the President - one problem he knows of is NATO meeting which is coming up on April 10 in Washington. HAK said he knows the President is very anxious to have an opportunity to talk with the PM and the only problem is one of dates. HAK asked whether early May would be a good time for the PM and he said no but almost any time in March or early April would be convenient. HAK said he knows the President is extremely concerned about establishing closest relationship with PM's country and that he will look sympathetically at this request.

PM said they sent note to the US Government asking whether US would agree to feasibility study in connection with harbor in northwest ports of Australia. Seaborg had press conference at which he announced US had agreed to do this study, but PM said he has no official confirmation that the President has in fact authorized such a feasibility study and he has had many questions from the press. HAK said he could tell him that it will be approved, that he will get official notification to the PM today or tomorrow and apologized for manner in which PM had learned of this.

jm

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TELCON
Kurt Birrenbach

Thursday, 1/30/69, 10:05 a.m.

HAK told Birrenbach that he and some of his colleagues needed some unofficial German advice, and could Birrenbach find some reason for coming to Washington--such as a business trip. HAK would prefer it if only the Chancellor knew about his coming, and that there be _no publicity whatsoever_.

Birrenbach will leave Dusseldorf on Wednesday and fly thru to Washington, being available to HAK on Thursday morning, Feb. 6.

Birrenbach said he would send HAK a cable, after he talks to the Chancellor, confirming his arrival. Birrenbach asked if he could inform the German Ambassador in Washington, and HAK said he would leave that up to him and the Chancellor, but he stressed that _this visit should be treated very privately_.

HAK asked B to give the Chancellor his warmest personal regards-- and that both the Pres and he have the greatest interest in establishing a relationship of cordial confidence.

Z

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TELCON
Secretary Rogers
Mr. Kissinger
1-30-69 5:15 PM

R asked K if he was going to touch base with the German Government. K said no he had talked with Richardson at lunch today and suggested to him that R talk to the Amb on Monday. K said he has telephoned a friend of Kiesinger's (also a friend of K's) and asked if he wanted to come over for a chat. K said if R could see him when he comes and give him general idea of his attitude towards about Germany, it would be helpful. R said o.k.

R brought up telegram on President's trip. K said after meeting this morning, Pres called K and Haldeman in. Wants Haldeman working on this too as he knows his habits, etc. R said he would LDX a telegram over which he wants to get out tonight. After he gets it, K agreed to call Pedersen. K suggested that R, Haldeman and himself meet on this and act as steering group for the trip.

K assured R that the NSDM will be worked out to R's satisfaction.

jm

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TELCON
Secretary Finch
Mr. Kissinger
1-30-69 5:35 PM

Finch said he had seen Zhukov at the request of Franklin Murphy. Z told Finch he was seeing K. F said he had a list of questions, mostly foreign policy, and F told Z he knew nothing about foreign policy and never discusses it with the President. K said that was КХХХКХХ exactly the way to handle it. Thought it was good that Finch had seen him, however.

F and K agreed to lunch together and K said his secretary would call
F's and try to arrange something for next week.

jm

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TELCON
General Lincoln
Mr. Kissinger
1-30-69 7:30 PM

Lincoln said Cleveland and Stanley have been in touch with him about a meeting in Brussels the middle of February - Symposium on Civil Emergency Planning. They have asked Lincoln if he could head the delegation. L said he could not do it all but could leave after NSC meeting on Wednesday night and show the flag. If HAK thinks it is a good idea L will check it out with Rogers. HAK said he thought L should go. L discussed personnel situation at OEP. They are trying to get Werner Brandt from the Secretariat at State, but they are reluctant to release him (especially since HAK has Houdek). L does not know Brandt but he has been recommended to him. HAK said he would take a reading on him.

jm

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Telecon

HAK - Henry Brandon

9:30 Jan. 31

Wanted guidance on the Wilson problem. K didn't seem to think there was a problem.

Wilson is terribly eager to come to the U. S. but thinks that the President is trying to avoid him. Brandon says.

K said the decision hasn't been made whether to go to Europe or have heads of governments come here.

Brandon thinks the President is trying harder to build relationship with de Gaulle and is hurting Wilson's feelings by doing so.

Wilson prides himself on his relationship with the U.S. said Brandon.

K again said that there was no attempt to avoid him. On the contrary.

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Telecon

Roger Fisher (collect call)

1/31/69

11:30

Fisher suggested that K appoint John Mayer (supposedly runnerup for Science Advisor) as consultant and totake charge of Biafra relief measures. Some urgency here since Mayer will be leaving the States very soon.

Fisher is sending package by plane tomorrow and K said he would have the papers picked up.

K said he would check in to Mayer since he didn't know anything about him.

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TELCORN

Dwight Chapin
Mr. Kissinger
1/31/69 6:00 pm

Re Trip: HAK asked Dwight Chapin if there was something in the week
of the 23rd that would prevent the Pres. from doing it then.

Chapin said the week of the 23rd there are two dinners scheduled and
two Congressional things--but we wouldn't break too much china if we
went. It can be done.

HAK said the trouble with March 1st is there is a political activity in Berlin
which should be avoided, so how about the week after?

Chapin said the week of the 10th there's no problem.

HAK said "let's see about it, then."

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TELCONE
U. Alexis Johnson
Mr. Kissinger
1-31-69 PM

K said at Javits meeting with the President, Javits about getting Iraqi
Jews out and President told K to take it up with State. K asked for paper
if a study has been made on this. J said he would get something over
tomorrow on this. K said this might very well come up at NSC meeting
tomorrow. J said he would tell the Secretary about it.

K said he saw German Ambassador briefly today after his presentation
of credentials. The Amb said he was seeing the Secretary on Monday
and would raise with him Article 53 and 107 in connection with the NPT.
K said he was sending over a memo of conversation.

jm

TELCORN
Secy Laird
Mr. Kissinger
1-31-69 PM

Laird asked if K would kind of just ride herd on this to let him know when he thought the President would be back if he goes to Europe.

Laird and Wheeler are going to lay on a trip to Vietnam, but I did not think they should be out of country when the President is. K agreed.

K said roughly the trip would be from the 2nd to the 9th or 10th of March, but this may slip depending on when foreign leaders are available.

L said he has to go up to the Hill on March 15 and was hoping to get to Vietnam before that 9x - perhaps he should postpone both of them.

He asked K how if he thought they should not go to Vietnam before the President goes to Europe. K said that would be his initial reaction, but he would think it over and let Laird know at the meeting tomorrow.

jm