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UNDERSTANDING

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THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN and DR. HENRY KISSINGER

(Supplemental To Agreement Between
Parties regarding dialogue with Prime Minister Nakasone)

1. Regarding the publication in English, or any other language other than Japanese, of the dialogue between Dr. Kissinger and Mr. Nakasone, The Yomiuri will obtain from Dr. Kissinger his permission prior to our transferring the copyrights and transcripts to any publisher for doing a book in a language other than Japanese.

2. In return for Dr. Kissinger's permission, the Yomiuri will pay him a lump sum at a time described in section 3 below.

3. The above-mentioned payment will take place within a month after the Yomiuri receive from a non-Japanese publisher the appropriate payment for copyrights and transcripts in connection with doing a book based on the dialogue in English or other non-Japanese language.

4. The exact amount of payment to be made to Dr. Kissinger will depend on how Yomiuri's negotiation with the publishers goes.

5. In the event the Yomiuri fails to reach an agreement with any American or other non-Japanese language publishers on conditions satisfactory to us, we may have to abandon the idea of non-Japanese publication at all.

6. The Yomiuri has initiated contact with Simon & Schuster through Japanese agency called "Uni Agency" since November 27, 1989. However, as of December 8, 1989, Simon & Schuster has been maintaining a "wait-and-see" attitude toward our approach, in view of unpredictable nature of outcome of the dialogue in Hawaii.

7. It is our hope that as soon as the dialogue is completed and the transcripts are ready, we can speed up the negotiation process with Simon & Schuster or other American publishers.

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3. The above-mentioned payment will take place when we finalize a formal agreement between the Yomiuri and a non-Japanese publisher with respect to doing a book based on the dialogue in English or other non-Japanese language.

6. The Yomiuri has initiated contact with Simon & Schuster through Japanese agency called "Uni Agency" since November 27, 1989. However, as of December 8, 1989, Simon & Schuster has been maintaining a "wait and see" attitude toward our approach, in view of unpredictable nature of outcome of the dialogue in Hawaii.

Kenya Mizukami
Executive Editor
The Yomiuri Shimbun

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## Kissinger-Nakasone Dialogue

Moving through the last ten years of this century toward the 21st century

Session 1 (Dec. 16 8:30 - 11:30 a.m. including coffee break)

## International Politics

### Moderator

During the 20th century, we have experienced two world wars as well as a rise of nationalism and great imperialistic powers.

The birth of the first socialistic country, the Soviet Union, during World War I led to the bipolarization of the world. After World War II, the two superpowers with nuclear weapons confronted each other for many years.

### Issues

1. The change in the meaning of "security" in this century

What did "security" mean in the early 20th century?

How do you link the idea of Pax Americana with the bipolarization of world security?

In what way do you expect security to change in the context of bipolarization?

Gorbachev needed to push across the idea of perestroika because of the possibility of a nuclear war. What change in nuclear weapon strategy do you expect in the new century?

2. It can be said that capitalism and democracy predominate over communism and totalitarianism. What function do you see for the IMF, GATT and G7 in the next century?

3. In the same manner as the EC and the U.S. Canada Free Trade Association, economic and political blocs may become more common in the next century. What do you consider would be the most significant motivation for this to happen? Do you see any possibility of the formation of an Asian economic bloc?

4. What do you think of the possibility of the reunification of the two Germanys?

What do they need to do for the reunification?

Do you see a future for "Mitteleurope" (Central Europe) as a united economic and political bloc?

5. What has been the impact of the increase in Third World countries in this century?

How can we deal with their growing debt problems and their possession of nuclear weapons?

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Session 2 (Dec. 16 2:00-5:30 p.m. tentative)

The future of communism and the world

Moderator

The East European countries are in the midst of a new revolu-
lution. The Soviet Union is determined to promote perestroika
and gain the support of the Bush administration. The denial of
the historic role of some former Soviet leaders has led to dra-
matic revaluation of Soviet society. Gorbachev indirectly criti-
cized the theories of Marx and Lenin, and promised to promote
"socialism with a human face." It appears that he intends to
promote social democracy.

Issues

1. How do you evaluate the reality of perestroika? What is necessary to realize perestroika?

What will result from the gap between political reform and
economic reform in the Soviet Union and East Europe?

Will the Soviet bloc survive intact throughout the 21st
century? If it does not, what will be the impact on East Europe,
the Third World and the Soviet Union itself? Would you see this
as a decline in totalitarianism?

In what way do you think the "new socialism" will survive in
the next century?

2. Do you expect the importance of ideology to decrease as a factor in international politics?

Do you think a new ideology will replace communism as the
leading ideology in the 21st century?

Do you see any other factor taking a leading role in inter-
national politics?

3. Do you believe the East-West concept will exist in the next century?

What do you think the future holds for East Europe and the
Warsaw Pact now that the unity of the countries is unraveling?

Would the change in the Warsaw Pact have an impact on the
relationship among Western countries and the future of NATO? Do
you see any possibility that NATO and the Warsaw Pact will unify
in the next century? What changes do you expect in the function
of NATO and the Warsaw Pact?

4. Do you expect China to follow its own socialist path, including totalitarianism and centralization of power?

Can you describe the resemblance and differences between Mao
Zedong, Zhou Enlai and Deng Xiaoping? How do you describe the
good times and bad times through their career?

5. How and when do you expect a change to occur in North Korea?

Will the two Koreas ever reunify?

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Session 3 (Dec. 17 8:30-noon)

The U.S.-Japan relationship in the context of the world

Moderator

The relationship between Japan and the United States began when Commodore Perry arrived in Japan in 1853. Since then, the bilateral relationship has had a long winding history that included a moderate period after the end of Japan's isolation, the United States "ignoring" Japan's expansion in China, Pearl Harbor and World War II, the Occupation, the strengthening of the alliance and increasing trade conflicts. The importance of the interdependence is increasing as the trade conflicts worsen.

1. What is Japan for the United States now and what will it be in the future?

What is the United States for Japan now and what will it be in the future?

Could you comment on the "revisionist" writings of Karel van Wolferen and James Fallows? What about Morita and Ishihara's "The Japan That Can Say 'No'"?

What do you think about the idea that Japan is not a Western nor Eastern nation?

2. How should we deal with the growing trade conflicts between the two countries?

3. What role do you see for the U.S.-Japan alliance in regards to the changing world political climate?

What about the U.S. forces in Japan?

What is the best way to share the responsibilities around the world?

4. I would like to discuss the relationship between Japan and the Soviet Union in the context of maintaining the relationship between Japan and the United States. What about the northern territory issue and Japan's posture toward investment in Siberia? Should Japan adopt a new strategy in dealing with the Soviet Union?

How should Japan deal with the changed in East Europe?

5. What is the political and economic future of the Pacific Rim countries?

Could you describe the advantages of setting up a Pacific Rim Community and the significance this would have?

Please give your views on China and the Korean Peninsula while keeping the U.S.-Japan relationship in mind?

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Session 4 (Dec. 17 2:00-5:30 p.m. including coffee break)

What will dominate the world in the 21st century?

Moderator

Nationalism, Expansionism and competition in the world marketplace among capitalist countries were the leading factors before World War II. After the war, bipolarization led by the superpowers have managed to keep balance between East and West.

Science and technology have advanced dramatically, especially in the computer and biotechnological field, and now of vital importance. Besides science and technology, ideology has also played a significant role in contemporary history.

Issues

1. What role has ideology played in the 20th century? Do you see ideology as one of the leading factors in the next century?

Do you see any new factors--not ideology--to play a leading role in the 21st century?

2. Do you see any future for totalitarianism? How about totalitarian governments in the Third World?

What do you think about the future of democracy?

Do you believe social democracy will find greater acceptance and spread not only in Europe but around the world?

3. Are international organization such as the United Nations going to play a greater role as the dominance of the superpowers declines and the political blocs break up? What about international treaties when this happens?

4. What relationship do you see between politics and religious fundamentalism in the 21st century? What impact do you believe religion and nationalism will have on world politics?

5. What effect do you think the rapid development of science and technology will have on world peace?

What future do you see for nuclear weapons and arms control?

What will be the major powers' strategy based on nuclear armaments on the post-Cold War era?

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Session 5

Leadership and clarification

1. Could you give us some idea about the leaders you hope will arise in the next century? Please tell us about the leaders you have met in your career.

2. Questions from the Yomiuri to clarify some points discussed during the dialogue.

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Dear Dr. Kissinger:

It was such a great pleasure and honor that I could serve as a
moderator in your Honolulu dialogue with Mr. Nakasone last
December.

I know it took you a lot of commitment and devotion to come all
the way from New York and spend with us for four days for our
project.

Please accept our heartiest gratitude to you for your understanding
and cooperation in making it possible.

Starting with the January 1st issue of the Yomiuri Shimbun, we
ran a total of 11 installments of digest, every day on the front
page, in addition to devoting twice two full pages to the dialogue.
And needles to say, we've had a tremendous positive reactions,
particularly from various circles of well-educated readers.

I am convinced more people will enjoy the Kissinger-Nakasone Dia-
logue when the book comes out in mid March. this year.

On behalf of the Yomiuri Shimbun, I wish you the best of luck and
best health for this new year, and I do hope our relationship with
you continues to grow as ever.

I do thank you also for your courteous letter to me earlier this
month.

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Yasuhiro Nakasone. These wide-ranging talks were held in Hawaii in
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For release Sunday, January 21, 1990

KISSINGER SAYS GORBACHEV MAY ABANDON GLASNOST

(This is the first of two articles on a dialogue between former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and former Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone in Hawaii. The talks were sponsored by The Yomiuri Shimbun. Some comments have been paraphrased.)

By Trevor Loring

The Daily Yomiuri

Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev may abandon glasnost (openness) to salvage perestroika (restructuring) by using the argument that cohesion of the Soviet Union is a prerequisite to economic reform, according to former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

Kissinger made the comment in a dialogue with former Japanese
Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone that was held in Hawaii in
December under the sponsorship of The Yomiuri Shimbun.

The Soviet leader has recoiled from taking any essential
economic steps, Kissinger said, although his first priority should
be to transform the Soviet Union's centrally planned economy into a
market economy. Because of this, he said, it was difficult to
understand what Gorbachev means by perestroika.

Gorbachev knows that the Soviet Union must decentralize, and his
greatest efforts have been made in the political arena, but he
faces the dilemma of loosening Moscow's rigid controls and then
watching the nationality problem become more and more complex,
Kissinger said.

His comments indicate that he believes the Kremlin may clamp
down on the media to keep a tighter rein on the republics and be
more selective in what can be reported in the economic sphere.

Nakasone said that although Gorbachev had an overall vision of
perestroika, he did not have the game plan. "He throws a ball,
follows wherever the ball goes, then picks it up and throws it
again," he said.

He said that Gorbachev needs victories in foreign affairs to
battle effectively with bureaucracy, but despite the support he has
found in the West, the support he finds in the Soviet Union is
"fragile."

Kissinger agreed but said that support from abroad could only go
so far. "No leader can ask a foreign government to do him favors
indefinitely," he said.

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contributions was the dismantling of the Soviet empire in Europe, it might hurt him domestically. This was an act of great statesmanship and courage, he said, but in the end critics might claim that it was unnecessary.

Nakasone stressed the risks of relying on one person to effect far-reaching changes, but he said that nothing could stop the evolution in East Europe.

"What we are observing is only the initial stage of an earthquake that involves the world as a whole," he said.

But Kissinger also used the analogy of an earthquake to say that there were limits to what can be changed.

He said U.S. President George Bush met Gorbachev in Malta in order to prevent excessive instability, even though the United States and the Soviet Union could no longer arrange the affairs of the world by themselves.

The most significant event in East Europe is the collapse of the Communist parties and the fundamental rearrangement of international relations, he said.

Nakasone reiterated his belief that the sun was setting on communism because its resistance to change had led to stagnation. Capitalism, on the other hand, has constantly undergone evolutions and now includes such socialist elements as the welfare state, he said.

On the nationality question, Nakasone said the three Baltic states of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia will move closer to the Finland model, but the conflict between Moscow and the other Soviet republics will become more acute.

The Kremlin will have to make some concessions to try to quell major upheavals in the Ukraine and the other republics, he said, adding that there will probably be a great effort by the republics to gain as much autonomy as possible within the country.

But he added a warning. "If the Kremlin thinks that things have gone too far ... then we may see a repeat of the Tian An Men Square incident," he said, referring to the crackdown on the pro-democracy movement in the Beijing square.

Kissinger also said he could not rule out the use of force to end internal conflicts.

He said the Baltic states want to be independent and have defied the Kremlin's orders; Azerbaijan continues to stop rail traffic passing through its territory, and there is a major religious conflict in Ukraine between the Catholic and Greek Orthodox churches.

The Kremlin has avoided a showdown, but will this continue forever? Kissinger asked rhetorically.

If the Baltic states succeed in becoming independent, he said, other republics will be tempted to secede from the Soviet Union. That would mean the Soviets would lose everything that the Russians had gained in the past 400 years, he said.

Kissinger said it would be hard to believe the Soviet Union would apply the same principles to its republics that it applied to the East European countries.

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actually think they have made up their minds. They are still hoping
that by making timely concessions they can grant some degree of
autonomy without having to give true independence."

Asked about "socialism with a human face," Kissinger said he was
not sure whether communism ever had a human face.

"One of the ironies of the Communist system is that while their governments look very powerful, their internal structures are weak, and authority depends on terror," he said. "As soon as they lose their capacity to ply terror, they also lose a great deal of their capacity to govern."

Kissinger said the real question is whether the Soviets can
modify communism to something akin to what Alexander Dubcek had in
mind.

Dubcek, whose planned reforms in Czechoslovakia brought currency
to the term "socialism with a human face," was toppled from power
when Soviet-led forces invaded the country during the Prague Spring
of 1968. On Dec. 28, Dubcek made a comeback as president of the
Czech Parliament.

The former secretary of state said that "socialism with a human
face" could only emerge if the Communist parties gave up their
dominant roles. This will be difficult because it is not natural
for Communist parties to participate in the democratic process, he
said.

Nakasone said that if the Soviets permit a multi-party system,
allow more liberalization and hold a free election, then "socialism
with a human face" might be possible, but not if they hang on to the
concept of the infallibility of communism.

Turning to the subject of economic aid, Kissinger said he
believes it will be wasted on the Soviet economy without a
population that is willing to work hard, local governments that
know how to use that help and a private sector with a great deal of
initiative.

He said U.S. aid to Western Europe and Japan after World War II
would not have worked if these factors had not been present.

"I'm in favor of economic aid. But not simply expressed in
dollars or yen," Kissinger said. "It has to be related to specific
performance."

But he pointed out that the infrastructure was weak and the
bureaucracy and the Soviet Communist Party hostile to reform. They
still insist on doing everything through central planning, he said.

Nakasone was even more forthright. He said that Communists "do
not know economics" and that the people in Communist nations had
lost their motivation to work hard.

About 80 percent of the Soviet population wants to abide by the
status quo, he claimed, and "to expect them to compete, to expect
them to work hard is a very difficult thing to do."

Kissinger said that when he and Nakasone were in the Soviet
Union, Gorbachev said he did not want to borrow money or use up
foreign exchange to import basic commodities, but rather wait to
produce them.

But even if they do produce them, he said the infrastructure was
so weak that the Soviets would have difficulty in distributing
consumer goods equitably.

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Calling for "equality" with East Europe, Nakasone said Gorbachev should "correct Stalin's mistakes" in Asia and withdraw Soviet troops from the so-called northern territories.

Nakasone said that when he met Gorbachev in July 1988 the Soviet leader told him he was not sure what he should do in regards to the northern territories, but he agreed that Moscow had to do something. Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze and other Soviet officials have made similar statements, raising the expectations of the Japanese, he said.

The northern territories are the islands of Kunashir, Etorofu, Shikotan and the Habomai group off the eastern coast of Japan's northern island of Hokkaido. Japan maintains that the islands, which were occupied by Soviet troops in the closing days of World War II, are not part of the Kuril archipelago and is seeking their unconditional return.

Moscow has until recently insisted that no territorial issue exists between Japan and the Soviet Union and has pressured successive Japanese governments to sign a bilateral peace treaty, a request Japan has refused to consider until the northern territories issue has been settled.

Nakasone said it was just as important to create a sense of stability in Asia as it was in Europe, but that Gorbachev was taking a very different posture toward the two regions. He noted that the Soviet Union maintained significant army and naval sources in Asia, particularly in the Sea of Okhotsk and the Pacific.

He said the Sea of Okhotsk was also an important area for the United States because of the U.S. naval presence in the area.

Kissinger said he concurred with Nakasone's contention that the Soviet Union had a disproportionate deployment of forces in the Far East compared to the small percentage of the country's gross national product in the region.

This means that any serious negotiations between the two countries should include security issues, he said.

With this apparently in mind, he made an indirect appeal to Japan and other countries to refrain from extending major help for the reconstruction of the Soviet economy until there had been substantial agreement on these issues.

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On the subject of North Korea, Nakasone said reunification of the two Koreas is highly unlikely as long as North Korean President Kim Il Sung remains in power.

He said that a Korean confederation along the lines of that proposed for the two Germanys might be possible, but because of the deep-rooted distrust among the Koreans it was improbable. Such a confederation would unify the Koreas while allowing each half to retain its sovereignty.

He said mutual recognition and simultaneous membership in the United Nations was the first step toward unification, but Kim Il Sung was opposed to this approach. Under Kim, he asserted, North Korea was becoming more isolated.

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Kim Il Sung in the same way as it did for Mao Zedong in China and Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam.

Kissinger also said that unification was unlikely while Kim Il Sung and his son, Kim Jong Il, remain in power. But he said that if the country developed in the same way as East Europe had, then unification could occur fairly quickly. However, he said, the West would then have to allay the security concerns of China and the Soviet Union.

The former secretary of state said that the North Koreans were repeatedly offering to hold separate negotiations with the United States to "create an impression that they speak on behalf of all Koreans."

He said he believed the United States would be willing to take part in any negotiations in which both Koreas took part. "What we should not do is to participate in a negotiation in which South Korea does not take part because, once we do that, we delegitimize South Korea and play right into the hands of North Korean propaganda suggesting that South Korea is an American puppet," he said.

Turning to Vietnam, Kissinger said he finds that, unlike many nations in East Europe, Hanoi had indicated no willingness to reduce the supremacy of the Vietnamese Communist Party, and its avowal that it was moving toward a market economy was hard to believe.

But he said that if Vietnam dissociated itself from its military alliance with the Soviet Union and moved toward genuine pluralism, the United States should consider cooperating in its economic development.

The Soviet Union still maintains a major naval base at Cam Ranh Bay that was built by the United States to prosecute the war against North Vietnam.

Since the end of the Vietnam War, Kissinger said, the United States has probably the least national interest in Indochina. He did not mention efforts by U.S. officials and private citizens to locate thousands of U.S. servicemen listed as missing in action.

On Cambodia, he said the United States sympathized with China concerning Cambodian independence but found it "reprehensible" that such a policy would increase the likelihood of the Khmer Rouge taking over the government in Phnom Penh.

The Khmer Rouge have been accused of slaughtering millions of Cambodians during their rule from April 1975 to January 1979, when the Vietnamese captured Phnom Penh in an invasion launched the month before. The Vietnamese then installed a government of their choosing.

Kissinger said Vietnam's policy was to try to solidify the Phnom Penh regime because it wants to control the whole of Indochina.

The dilemma facing the United States is that it cannot support Phnom Penh nor the Khmer Rouge, he said.

In a brief comment, Nakasone said Japan would follow the lead of Thailand and other Asian countries in dealing with Vietnam, but first Hanoi would have to make an effort to improve relations with the countries in the region.

(c) 1990, Yomiuri Shimbun. Distributed by Los Angeles Times

KEEP SECURITY PACT OR SEE JAPAN GO NUCLEAR

(This is the second of two articles on a dialogue between former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and former Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone that was held in Hawaii. The talks were sponsored by The Yomiuri Shimbun. Some comments have been paraphrased.)

By Trevor Loring

The Daily Yomiuri

Unless the Japan-U.S. security treaty is maintained "future
Japanese governments may be driven toward nuclear capability,"
despite Japanese public opinion and the fears of neighboring
countries, former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger says.

He issued the warning during a dialogue with former Japanese
Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone held in Hawaii in December under
the sponsorship of The Yomiuri Shimbun.

Kissinger emphasized that he was not recommending that Japan
eventually obtain or make nuclear weapons, only that it was a
possibility.

Japan still adheres to the three nonnuclear principles
formulated by the Eisaku Sato Cabinet in 1968, of not making and
not possessing nuclear weapons, and not introducing them into
Japan.

Kissinger said the mutual security pact may become even more
important in future as Japan's military strength continues to grow.
But he said it would be unwise for the United States to press Japan
to do more than Japan is prepared to do in the military field.

He emphasized that the size of Japan's defense forces is a
Japanese decision and the question of defense is "not some favor
that Japan does for the United States."

But the former secretary of state said he supported an
allocation of responsibilities under which Japan would assume a
larger financial burden while the United States maintains some of
its existing security functions.

Nakasone agreed that there should be a better realignment of
roles in regard to the bilateral security treaty and suggested that
Japan pay more for U.S. troops stationed in Japan. He also said
Japan could take a more active role in the joint development of
arms technology.

The security arrangement is valuable, he said, because it
reassures Asian people whose memory of their sufferings during
World War II "will not disappear for 100 years."

The former prime minister said that even though Japan's defense
outlay worked out at around 1 percent of the country's gross
national product, people in other parts of the world were
complaining Japan's defense spending was at a dangerous level. But
he said 50 percent of the spending goes for salaries for

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Self-Defense Force personnel and 30 percent on supporting U.S. troops stationed in Japan.

Taking up the United Nations, both Nakasone and Kissinger agreed that the world body could still play a vital role in resolving global problems, but that it should be reformed.

Kissinger said he believed that a conference on the United Nations should be held by the turn of the century to discuss its role and voting procedure. "Structural reform is essential, and it should be repeated every 20 years or so," he said.

He also said that Japan should be a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council on the basis of its influence, and that in time Germany might join the permanent membership of the world body. It was not clear if he was referring to West Germany or a reunified Germany.

Kissinger said the United Nations offered a meeting place for nations that had difficulty in finding other forums to discuss disputes. It could also provide a greater role in the solution of environmental, human rights and other global problems.

Nakasone said he saw no alternative to the United Nations, particularly in dealing with the affairs of Third World countries.

In this respect, he said the United Nations would remain relevant in the 21st Century.

What was not relevant, he said, was the belligerency clause aimed at Japan, Germany and Italy that remains in the U.N. Charter. He hoped that the clause would be nullified through a U.N. General Assembly resolution.

He urged that the United Nations become more flexible and institute a self-policing system to deal with its budget.

Although he praised the role the Security Council had played in the past, Nakasone said that another forum was needed to deal with environmental issues, which will become more important in future.

He suggested the establishment of an environmental council within the United Nations with a power similar to that of the Security Council and with a specific action program and a proportionate contribution from member countries.

## STAR BREAK

On the subject of trade, and stressing that trade between two nations can never be in exact balance, Kissinger said the United States should negotiate with Japan a trade level with which it can live.

He said there were always structural reasons for a trade deficit, but he believed the two countries could work out a "tolerable" deficit. The two sides would then have to take unilateral steps to comply with the trade level agreed on, he said.

But he said that trade problems dealt with on a case-by-case basis were unlikely to work and would lead to "endless friction." As soon as one problem is settled, some other industry raises a similar problem, he said.

Nakasone said he did not subscribe to the idea that the Japanese and U.S. governments could agree on an acceptable deficit.

"We should not discourage the private initiative of Japanese enterprises, and we should not lean toward managed trade," he said.

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of Japan had affected one-third of the country's trade with the United States, including major industries such as automobiles, machine tools, steel products and textiles.

Despite these agreements, he said that Japan's trade surplus vis-a-vis the United States had not declined, although the country's surplus as a whole had substantially decreased recently. Japan is importing more, especially from the developing countries, but because of a lack of U.S. productivity, imports from the United States have stagnated, he said.

He said the Europeans were much more deliberate than the Americans in exploring Japan's markets.

Kissinger admitted that a large part of the bilateral trade problem was a lack of competitiveness by U.S. enterprises.

"But part of it is certainly caused by Japanese methods, by your unique combination between the ministries and the private sector, and by the tremendous power being generated by Japanese financial institutions," he told Nakasone.

Nakasone said that while Japan was in the process of catching up with the rest of the industrial world after World War II, the country had to "take advantage of the merits of the Japanese system."

"We have achieved progress in our own unique way, and I think this has to be understood by other advanced countries," he said. But once a country had caught up it should abide by international rules, he said, and further efforts were needed to liberalize Japanese markets.

Kissinger said one of the main obstacles in bilateral trade was that most Japanese did not want to buy American products, even if they were available. He ascribed this phenomenon to cultural differences.

"Japan permits the importation of 80,000 cars a year. That ... shows the protectionist traditions of the period of catching up are still very strong in Japan," Kissinger said, adding that only 2,500 of those automobiles were from the United States.

Concerning the so-called revisionist writings of James Fallows and Karol Van Wolferen, Kissinger said that the theories they expressed were basically right.

In an article in Atlantic Monthly titled "Containing Japan," Fallows called on Japan to restrain its economic growth for the good of everyone, including Japan. Van Wolferen, a Dutch journalist, wrote in his book, "The Enigma of Japanese Power," that there was no one center of power in Japan so it was difficult for decisions to be made. Both writers have been lambasted in the Japanese press for "Japan bashing."

According to Kissinger, the theme of Fallows' article was only that Japan had managed to get ahead economically while Van Wolferen was merely saying that Japan was different from the United States.

However, Nakasone said that "obviously we can see a lack of understanding" in the works of the two writers, without going into details about what they did not understand. He did say though that some parts of Fallows' work had been taken out of context and sensationalized.

But he said he was more concerned with politicians in Congress and the Diet who tend to react to voices in the constituencies.

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Both Nakasone and Kissinger had some sharp words for Shintaro Ishihara, a writer and Liberal-Democratic member of the House of Representatives, who co-authored a book with Sony Chairman Akio Morita that could be considered an answer to the foreign "revisionists." Ishihara and Morita wrote separate articles in the book.

A pirate version of the book, with the English title "A Japan That Can Say 'No,'" caused a sensation in Congress and elsewhere in the United States.

Ishihara wrote in one article that if the U.S. exerted pressure on Japan there were certain ways Japan could respond. One suggestion was to supply high technology to the Soviet Union, which would put the United States at a disadvantage.

Kissinger called the threat "unwise" because it would hurt Japan as well as the United States. It is important for our leaders to understand that the destinies of the two countries were linked and that if we returned to the prewar period of mutual recriminations there would be catastrophic consequences for both countries, he said.

Calling Ishihara "immature," Nakasone said Ishihara was playing to the constituencies with his political future in mind. He said Ishihara had probably suffered in terms of public support for making the threat.

Nakasone said that Morita is only stating what he has said before: the United States should increase its productivity and make an effort to reduce its deficit. He said he believed that Morita regretted his association with Ishihara, implying that Sony's sales might suffer.

In the business term ended September 1989, Sony's products earned about 2,201 billion yen with 62 percent, or 1,364.6 billion yen, of sales coming through exports. The United States takes the lion's share of the exports.

(c) 1990, Yomiuri Shimbun. Distributed by Los Angeles Times Syndicate

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MS. SUZANNE MCFARLANE
EXECUTIVE SECRETARY
KISSINGER ASSOCIATES
TWENTY SIXTH FLOOR
350 PARK AVENUE
NEW YORK, N.Y.
10022

Dear Ms. McFarlane:

Thank you for making it possible to conduct our Honolulu project successfully.

Regarding handling of the transcripts of the dialogue, I was told
by Dr. Kissinger at the December 22nd breakfast meeting not to
use portions dealing with Germany, China and American journalism
for English Daily Yomiuri because Dr. Kissinger is planning to
write major articles for world distribution by Los Angeles Times
Syndicates.

However, the English Daily Yomiuri editor came to me and asked me
if he can use at least China portion because it has a great value
for readers in Japan and because its readers are almost all in
Japan so that there will be no conflict of interest with the world
distribution by Los Angeles Times Syndicates.

will appear.
JAPAN
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Also, he wants to know when Dr. Kissinger's Syndicates articles
on German will be distributed. His plan is to use for the English
Daily Yomiuri Dr. Kissinger's views expressed in the Honolulu Dialogue
immediately after Los Angeles Times Syndicates stories are distributed.

Would you kindly check with Dr. Kissinger as soon as possible, even
while he is now out of the country?

Thank you very much always.

1-7-1. OTEMACHI, CHIYODA-KU. TOKYO 100-55 JAPAN

1-7-1 OIEMACHI, CHIYODA-KU, TOKYO 100-88 JAPAN

AKIRA SATO

Thank you very much always.

World you kindly check with Dr. Klaasen as soon as possible, even

immediately after Los Angeles Times syndicates stories are distributed.
Daily Yomuri Dr. Klaasen, a view expressed in the Honolulu Dislange
on German will be distributed. His plan is to use for the English
Also, he wants to know when Dr. Klaasen's syndicates articles

distribution by Los Angeles Times syndicates.
Japan so that there will be no conflict of interest with the world
for readers in Japan and because its readers are almost all in
it he can use at least China portion because it has a great value
However, the English Daily Yomuri editor came to me and asked me

syndicates.
to write major articles for world distribution by Los Angeles Times
tor English Daily Yomuri because Dr. Klaasen is planning to
use portions dealing with Germany, China and American journalism
by Dr. Klaasen at the December 22nd breakfast meeting not to
Regarding handling of the transcripts of the dialogue, I was told

successfully.

Dear Mr. McFarlane:

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UNDERSTANDING

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6. The Yomiuri has initiated contact with Simon & Schuster through Japanese agency called "Uni Agency" since November 27, 1989. However, as of December 8, 1989, Simon & Schuster has been maintaining a "wait-and-sec" attitude toward our approach, in view of unpredictable nature of outcome of the dialogue in Hawaii.

Kenya Mijukami
KENYA MIZUKAMI
EXECUTIVE EDITOR
THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

HENRY A. KISSINGER
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古賀News

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DECEMBER 7, 1989

TELEPHONE: 03-242-1111

TELEFAX: 03-246-0777

MS. SUZANNE MCFARLANE
EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT
KISSINGER ASSOCIATES
TWENTY SIXTH FLOOR
350 PARK AVENUE
NEW YORK, NY 10022

Discussion outline

Dear Ms. McFarlane:

Following is a copy of outline of discussions between Dr. Kissinger and Mr. Nakasone and rough idea of how the dialogue will be moderated.

Please give it to him, and when you do so, would please advise him that this is prepared just for the sake of helping him prepare for the dialogue, and that when he actually sits down with Mr. Nakasone in Honolulu, he doesn't necessarily have to be constrained by the order of the questions listed here.

Themes and questions are flexible, depending on how exchanges between him and Mr. Nakasone develops.

Regarding the English publication of the dialogue, I will send you tomorrow a copy of understanding between Dr. Kissinger and the Yomiuri Shimbun.

Thank you very much.

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Kissinger-Nakasone Dialogue

Moving through the last ten years of this century toward the 21st
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9:00 or 9:30

Session 1 (Dec. 16 9:30 - 11:30 a.m. including coffee break)

International Politics

Moderator

Issues

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MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT made and entered into this 21st day of December between DR. HENRY KISSINGER and Kissinger Associates of New York, New York, U.S.A., hereinafter called the Author, and THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN of 1-7-1 Otemachi, Chiyoda-Xu, Tokyo 100-55, Japan, hereinafter called the Publisher.

1. The Author hereby grants and assigns, solely and exclusively to the Publisher during the full term of copyright, on the terms herein set forth, book publication in a work based on the three-day dialogue in Honolulu scheduled in December 1989 tentatively entitled: 20 SEIYI TO SHORAI O KATARU (The Twentieth Century and the Future)

3. The Publisher agrees to apply for the copyright in the said work in Japan and in all foreign countries adhering to the Universal Copyright Convention at its own expense and in its own name or in the name of the Author, if the Author permits. The Author agrees that the following copyright notice will appear on every copy of the work produced:

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c. No royalty shall be paid on copies given away for sales promotion and similar purposes, on copies remained or destroyed.

d. The Author agrees that all payments due under the terms of this Agreement shall be made to the Author through the Publisher's agent: Japan UNJ Agency, Inc. of Naigai Bldg., 1-1 Kanda-Jinbocho, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 101, Japan.

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the parties hereto. This Agreement us a whole may be
assigned by either party upon due notice being given in
writing to the other party and with the other party's
consent.

Author

Publisher

December 20, 1989

MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT made and entered into this day of
between DR. HENRY KISSINGER c/o Kissinger Associates of New York, New York,
U. S. A., hereinafter called the Author, and THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN of 1-7-1
Otemachi, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 100-55, Japan, hereinafter called the Publisher.

2. The Publisher agrees to translate and to publish the work in Japan within twelve months after completion of the dialogue.

3. The Publisher agrees to apply for the copyright in the said work in Japan and in all foreign countries adhering to the Universal Copyright Convention at its own expense and in its own name of in the name of the Author, if the Author so elects. The Author agrees that the following copyright notice will appear on every copy of the work produced:

4. The Author agrees that so long as the Publisher shall continue to publish the work, he will not (without prior consent thereto in writing by the Publisher) write, publish, or print or cause to be written, published, or printed, or participate therein, any other form of said work or any other work of such extent or character that might interfere with or reduce the sale of the work that is the subject of this Agreement.

5. After publication of this work the Publisher will transmit by mail to the Author or his duly authorized representatives in February a statement of account for the one year period ending 31st December, accompanied by a remittance for the amounts due as at the end of such period. Where the Author has received on any statement of account an overpayment of royalties, caused by error, or by subsequent returns, or by rebate to bookstores because of subsequent editions, the Publisher may deduct such overpayment from any further royalties whether on this book or other books by the Author which may be published by the Publisher.

6. The Publisher agrees to pay to the Author:

a. As a non-returnable advance against royalties that may become due under this Agreement, the sum of US$150,000.00 payable by 28th February, 1990.

b. A royalty on the published price of every copy sold as follows: 6% on each for the first 10,000 copies sold, 7% on each for the next 10,000 copies sold and 8% on each copy sold thereafter.

c. No royalty shall be paid on copies given away for sales promotion and similar purposes, on copies remaindered, destroyed.

KISSINGER ASSOCIATES

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DATE: December 13 TIME:
TO: Mr. Akira Saito
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COMMENTS:

Urgent Message for

Mr. Saito

(Signed copy of "Agreement" is also attached.)

TO REPORT ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS TRANSMISSION, PLEASE
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THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

AGREEMENT

between

THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

and

DR. HENRY KISSINGER

1. Dr. Henry Kissinger will participate in a three-day dialogue with former Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone, in Honolulu currently scheduled from December 16th through 18th, 1989, moderated by Kenya Mizukami, Yomiuri Shimbun Executive Editor. The Yomiuri Shimbun expects the total number of hours of dialogue to be between twenty and twenty five, including lunch and appropriate coffee breaks.

2. The Yomiuri will make transcriptions of the exchanges and use them in a series of articles for the Yomiuri Shimbun (in Japanese) and the Daily Yomiuri (in English). The series is expected to start early January, 1990.

3. In return for his services, Yomiuri will pay Dr. Kissinger $200,000 (two hundred thousand dollars) after tax paid in Japan, in addition to his travelling expenses between New York and Honolulu and hotel accommodation.

4. Of the above-mentioned $200,000, Dr. Kissinger will be paid $100,000 on December 16, 1989, the first day of the three-day meeting in Honolulu.

5. The remaining $100,000 will be remitted to Dr. Kissinger by January 15, 1990 when our newspaper series starts.

6. The Yomiuri will also publish a book based on the dialogues.

7. For the book published in Japan, Dr. Kissinger will also receive advance payment of $150,000 (one hundred fifty thousand dollars) against royalties. The payment will be made by February 28, 1990.

signed:

Kenya Mizukami

KENYA MIZUKAMI
EXECUTIVE EDITOR AND
SENIOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

HENRY KISSINGER
for
KISSINGER ASSOCIATES
NEW YORK, NEW YORK

東洋新聞
THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

DECEMBER 13, 1989

TELEPHONE: 03-242-1111

TELEFAX: 03-246-0777

MS. SUZANNE MCFARLANE
EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT
KISSINGER ASSOCIATES
350 PARK AVENUE
NEW YORK, NEW YORK

Dear Ms. McFarlane:

Thank you for sending me a revised version of "UNDERSTANDING"
between the Yomiuri Shimbun and Dr. Kissinger.

After having consulted with our lawyer, we changed the phrase of
section 3.

Otherwise, we are in full agreement with Dr. Kissinger's suggestion.

Would you please pass our version to him and seek his acceptance?

If he has no objection to it, I'll bring more formal UNDERSTANDING
paper to Honolulu so that Dr. Kissinger and Mr. Mizukami can sign it
when they get together there.

Thank you very much always.

HENRY A. KISSINGER

December 4, 1989

To: Mr. Akira Saito

From: Suzanne McFarlane

Dr. Kissinger is in Europe but I told him about
Mr. Mizukami's letter of November 30.

He asked me to get in touch with you to mention
that he prefers there be no payment for his intro-
duction of the _Yomiuri Shimbun_ to the White House.
He said he had _done it only out of friendship and_
regard for a long-standing relationship.

Would you please pass on this message to Mr.
Mizukami?

Thank you,

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THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

November 8, 1989

Dr. Henry Kissinger
350 Park Avenue
New York, New York
10022

Dear Dr. Kissinger:

In response to your request, we have prepared the following understanding in writing between the Yomiuri Shimbun and Dr. Kissinger regarding the Kissinger-Nakasone Dialogue in Honolulu in December.

Would you please take a look at it once again, and if you find anything in it which requires further clarification, let us know as soon as possible. Otherwise, we will proceed according to our prior understanding.

It is quite a thrill for me to be a moderator for the upcoming dialogue, and I am very much looking forward to seeing you in Hawaii next month.

On behalf of the Yomiuri Shimbun, I am deeply indebted to you for your special understanding and cooperation shown to us always.

Thank you very much.

Best Regards,

Kenya Mizukami
EXECUTIVE EDITOR and
SENIOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

UNDERSTANDING

between

1. Dr. Henry Kissinger will participate in a three-day dialogue with former Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone, in Honolulu currently scheduled from December 16th through 18th, 1989, moderated by Kenya Mizukami, Yomiuri Shimbun Executive Editor. The Yomiuri expects the total numbers of hours of dialogue to be between twenty to twenty five, including lunch and appropriate coffee breaks.

2. The Yomiuri will make transcriptions of the exchanges and use them in a series of articles for the Yomiuri Shimbun (in Japanese) and The Daily Yomiuri (in English). The series is expected to start early January, 1990.

3. In return for his services, the Yomiuri will pay Dr. Kissinger $200,000 (two hundred thousand dollars) after tax be paid in Japan, in addition to round trip airfares between New York and Honolulu (first class tickets for Dr. and Mrs. Kissinger, three business class tickets for his security persons and secretary).

4. Of the above-mentioned $200,000, Dr. Kissinger will be paid $100,000 on December 16th, the first day of the three-day session in Honolulu.

5. The remaining $100,000 will be remitted to Dr. Kissinger by January 15th, 1990, when Yomiuri newspaper series starts.

6. The Yomiuri will also publish a book based on the dialogue.

7. For the book published in Japan in Japanese language, Dr. Kissinger will also receive advance payment of $150,000 (one hundred fifty thousand dollars) against royalties.

8. Regarding the payment schedule for book royalties, our agent on behalf of the Yomiuri Book Publishing Bureau will contact Dr. Kissinger immediately after the three-day dialogue is completed.

THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

YOMIURI PROPOSAL FOR KISSINGER-NAKASONE DIALOGUE

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1. Dr. Henry Kissinger and Japanese former prime minister Yasuhiro Nakasone will get together in Honolulu to engage in three-day long dialogue on world affairs of this century and their perspectives looking toward 21st century.

2. YOMIURI will make transcriptions out of all their exchanges and use them for series of articles which may begin to appear in the YOMIURI SHIMBUN, in January, 1990.

3. YOMIURI will also publish a book based on their dialogue.

4. In return for his services, YOMIURI will pay Dr. Kissinger $200,000 two hundred thousand dollars in addition to his travel expenses.

5. For publishing a book, Dr. Kissinger will also receive advance payment of $150,000 one hundred fifty thousand dollars against royalties.

6. Their discussions will last for three days December 16th (Sat) through 18th (Mon) 1989, with 6 to 8 working hours each day, and will take place in a suite room at KAHALA HILTON in Kahala, Honolulu.

7. Dr. and Mrs. Kissinger will have privilege of staying at the hotel for two extra days after three-day talks free of charge.

8. Main theme for the dialogue will be "My 20th century and how I see the transition to the next century."

9. What specifically to be discussed is up to Dr. Kissinger and Mr. Nakasone, but following are some suggested subjects which could be covered in their exchanges;

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OFFICE OF
HENRY A. KISSINGER

BY FAX

November 13, 1989

Dear Mr. Saito:

I hope this reaches you before your departure
for the U.S.

Dr. Kissinger asked me to tell you that he spoke
with his publisher today and there is no objection
to an English book. Dr. Kissinger feels the best
course is to pay him a lump sum and he (Dr.
Kissinger) will assign the rights, thus avoiding
having to engage in a long dialogue with the
publisher. Dr. Kissinger hopes, however, that
Simon & Schuster will have first crack at it.

He recommended if these conditions are satisfactory
that you bring the contract with you.

The other thing I should mention is that, because
of flight schedules, Dr. Kissinger will have to
depart Honolulu on a flight departing at 2:10 pm
on Monday. He hopes the schedule can be arranged
to accomodate this.

Looking forward to speaking with you in person,

OFFICE OF
HENRY A. KISSINGER

October 26, 1989

Dear Mr. Saito:

I tried to reach you earlier this evening by phone but learned that you will be out of the office all day.

What Dr. Kissinger wanted me to discuss with you were the following:

(1) Regretably, Dr. Kissinger will be unable to give you an interview in Beijing but said he would write an article which would be exclusive in Japan.

(2) About your inquiries about the book, he will be unable to give you an answer until he meets with his publisher on November 13th. He will be in touch with you on this question soon thereafter.

(3) He appreciates the arrangements you have made to have each day's "Dialogues" transcribed by that evening. That will work very well, he believes.

(4) He asked if you can give him information as to the timing of the payment for his participation in the "Dialogues" and the subsequent book.

(5) Finally, would you be kind enough to put in writing the agreement between the Yomiuri Shimbun and Dr. Kissinger for the Kissinger/

EJ

HAK:

Saito is talking about an English-language edition: transferring
rights to an American publisher for certain royalties to you, Nakasone
and themselves. How do you want to proceed?

Turn over to Josephson____ Stall____ Other____

He apparently also discussed an interview after you meet with the
Chinese. Did you agree to this? Did you recall that you told
the LA Times you'd give the _South China Morning Post_ an interview
in Hong Kong (which will be syndicated)?

(If you agreed) he'd like to do it in Beijing.

OK____ No ✓ OK if he comes to Hawaii____

He's willing to share with the Syndication (if you do it).

OK with me if OK with LATS____ Prefer not____

His last request is to meet you on arrival in Beijing, which I am
certain you will not want.

ssm

OCT 19 1989

讀聞新聞

THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

OCTOBER 13, 1989

81

DR. HENRY KISSINGER
350 PARK AVENUE
NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10022
U.S.A.

Dear Dr. Kissinger:

I enjoyed very much the breakfast meeting with you at your residence which I found as fruitful as the previous one.

I am always indebted to you for your hospitality and generosity.

Regarding doing a book in English based on the upcoming Kissinger-Nakasone dialogue, following are our understanding and suggestions. I would appreciate your comment as promptly as possible.

1. Even though there has been no agreement with respect to ownership of the English language copyright, it is our strong desire to have the dialogue in book form published in English as well as in Japanese, given its significance in world history and potentially tremendous interest in the book by international audience.

2. We will be happy to transfer the English language publishing rights to any American book publisher in its entirety who is interested in doing a book under its own publisher's name, as long as the book makes a clear reference to the YOMIURI SHIMBUN who made the dialogue possible.

3. The publishing house, in deciding on the book publication, will pay certain percentage of royalty to Mr. Nakasone in addition to Dr. Kissinger. ( In our judgement, the royalty to be paid to Mr. Nakasone could be much less than Dr. Kissinger )

4. In the meantime, the YOMIURI SHIMBUN would be happy if the American publishing house could pay the YOMIURI certain percentage of sales income as fee for undertaking the Kissinger-Nakasone dialogue and for producing English transcripts.

I do hope that letting an American house publish the English book, instead of YOMIURI doing a book in English as well will solve the problem of a possible conflict of interest on your part vis-a-vis your contracting publishers.

THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

As for my scheduled exclusive interview with you immediately follow-
ing your meetings with Chinese leaders,

(1) I do hope I could do it while you are in Beijing due to the nature of your meetings and its timeliness

(2) the recorded tape of my interview could be shared with other Kissinger syndicated newspapers outside Japan right after the YOMIURI publishes it.

Would you also let me know exactly what time of what day of November you are arriving in Beijing so that I can meet you at the airport?

Thank you very much always for your cooperation and understanding.

Looking forward to seeing you soon.

Very sincerely,

OFFICE OF
HENRY A. KISSINGER

BY FAX

July 27, 1989

Dear Mr. Saito:

Dr. Kissinger is traveling but asked me to be in
touch with you. He wanted to thank you for the
information about the dialogue with Mr. Nakasone
and to explain that he will get back to you when
he returns early next week.

Dr. Kissinger has been in touch with Mr. Marlin
Fitzwater, the Press Secretary of President Bush,
regarding an interview by the <u>Yomiuri Shimbun</u>.

With Dr. Kissinger's warm regards,

Mr. Akira Saito
The Yomiuri Shimbun
1-7-1, Otemachi
Chiyoda-Ku
Tokyo 110-55
Japan

SUBJECTS FOR KISSINGER-NAKASONE DIALOGUE

1. Prospects for the collapse of the Soviet Empire. Implications for developments in the Third World, Eastern Europe and Soviet Union itself.

2. Has Communism lost all its appeal? If so, are we at the end of ideological battles? Which other ideologies will be important in the next century?

3. If ideology declines as a factor in international affairs, what will take its place?

4. There is evidence in many parts of the world of a resurgence of fundamental religion (Israel, Arab world, USA) - what role will religion play next century?

5. Has totalitarianism been entirely discredited by events of this century (particularly the problems in the Soviet Union?)

6. As the bipolar world dissolves, is it possible that international organizations, like the UN, will play a greater role in world events?

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*MAIN POINTS OF NAKASONE'S ARGUMENT IN DEBATES WITH KISSINGER

A. How should we understand the 20th century and how should we look forward to the 21st century?

*Imperialism and nationalism, war and revolution

*Participation and mobilization of the masses, democracy, communism and authoritarianism.

*Industrialization, equalization, affluence, and subsequent destruction of environment.

B. International order after World War II

*The world order after the 1945 Yalta Conference and the cold war between the United States and the Soviet Union.

*Pax Americana

*The International Monetary Fund system and the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade system.

C. Collapse of communist models.

*Political and economic impasse in communist countries and collapse of ideology of planned economy.

*Western countries' superiority in the cold war.

*Rise of NIEs from the third world, based on a market-based economy.

D. Integration of world economy.

*Technological innovation and increasing international interdependence.

*Rapid changes in relative advantages and growing transfers of production bases to foreign countries.~~Competition~~

*Conflict of interests between nations and the world economy. Trade friction and protectionism.~~Sino~~

E. Changes in East-West relations.

*Threat of the Soviet Union. Possibility and limit of disarmament.

*Dissolution of the Soviet Union.

*Changes in the substance of national security.

F. Third World.

*Break-up of the Third World, NIEs and the most needy nations, and regional conflicts.

*Snowballing debt in the Third World. Vicious circle of suppression and economic slump.

G. Pacific and Atlantic regions.

*East and West.

*Diversity and variety among the countries in the Pacific region and the formation of regional identity's embryo

*Growth of Asian NIEs and ASEAN; relations between North America and EC.

H. Future of democracy and market-based economy

*Democracy and leadership; roles of media.

*Market and organization, market and government, and decline of rationalism as a means to an end.

*Meaning and danger of tolerance and value relativity; meanings of tradition and religion.

I. America and Japan

*Commonness (island countries, egalitarianism, vitality) and difference (individualism versus compromise?, adherence to principles versus eclecticism)

The U.S.: the New World-turned-hegemony. Lure of U.S. civilization and problems.

Japan: a "big power" of a new type.

J. Japan-U.S. relations: retrospect and outlook

From the arrival of Commodore Matthew Perry to the Japan-U.S. alliance.

Formation of the "Japan-U.S. economy" and economic friction

Convergence of benefits and burden of security; division of responsibilities.

Structuring a new relationship of alliance.

K. The mankind's future

Industrialization and environment depredation, rise in sanitary standards and the population problems; genetic engineering and ethics

Ethnicity and nationalism

Progress of peace zones and containment of war.

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THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

JUL 19 1989

TELEPHONE: 03-242-1111

TELEFAX: 03-246-0777

July 5, 1989

MEMORANDUM FOR DR. HENRY KISSINGER

SUBJECT: DR. KISSINGER'S TRIP TO CHINA TO MEET WITH CHINESE LEADERSHIP

1. We would like to sound you if you could travel to Beijing to meet Chinese leaders and to write articles for The Yomiuri Shimbun. After the turmoil and harsh executions, China entered into new phase. We want to have your articles on this topic. (Surely we used your recent stories on China.)

2. We are interested in following topics:
What sort of meaning does the past turmoil have in the 40 year history?
How are Chinese leaders assessing the present situation?
Can they proceed with opening policy?
Where is China going after Deng Xiao-ping's death?
However, we hope you will write them as you like.

3. The timing of your trip is up to you and whenever you are convenient.

4. The Yomiuri Shimbun will pay actual trip expense including accomodations, honararium, perdiem and other necessary fee.

5. Further discussions will be made between Dr. Kissinger and The Yomiuri Shimbun.

FROM : AKIRA SAITO

読載新聞

THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

JULY 5, 1989

TELEPHONE: 03-242-1111

TELEFAX: 03-246-0777

MEMORANDUM FOR DR. KISSINGER

SUBJECT : KISSINGER-NAKASONE DIALOGUE IN HAWAII

1. Early December this year, the YOMIURI SHIMBUN would like to invite Dr. and Mrs. Kissinger and Mr. and Mrs. Nakasone to Hawaii where Dr. Kissinger and our former prime minister could engage in a long hour dialogue, perhaps in two or three days.

2. The theme would be " OUR 20th Century-- the world trend ". What specific topics the participants would take up is entirely at their disposal.

3. The YOMIURI would be responsible for recording their conversations and making transcripts so that we could use them for January 89 special New Year series.

4. We attach special importance to the year 1990, because it is the beginning of the last decade of 20th century, and it is also the bridge decade to 21st century.

4. All the incurring costs for that project and consulting fee for Dr. Kissinger would be taken care of by the YOMIURI SHIMBUN.

FROM : AKIRA SAITO

1989年06月07日 16:59

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THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

AUGUST 7, 1989

TELEPHONE: 03-242-1111

TELEFAX: 03-246-0777

MS. SUZANNE S. McFARLANE
OFFICE OF HENRY A. KISSINGER
350 PARK AVENUE
NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10022
U.S.A.

Dear Ms. Mcfarlane:

Thank you very much for your letter of July 28th.
We are grateful to Dr. Kissinger for his acceptance of our proposal
of Kissinger-Nakasone dialogue in Hawaii.

Regarding coordinating all the details for project, I will be the
person responsible on our side for making all necessary arrangements.
Would you please tell Ms. Christie Neuman that I will be always
available on the telephone and telefax numbers listed elsewhere.

However, we would like to know as soon as possible whoelse is coming
to Honolulu on his side besides Dr. and Mrs. Kissinger for the
December 16-18 discussions so that we could make necessary hotel
accommodations in Honolulu.

Also, we would like to get Dr. Kissinger's comments on the themes
to be covered in the exchanges between Dr. Kissinger and Mr. Nakasone,
which I described in my letter of July 19th.

On these two points, could you check with him and let me know as
soon as possible.

By early September, I will talk with Mr. Nakasone about the suggested
themes. Therefore, it is necessary to know in advance Dr. Kissinger's
initial reaction to them.

After my discussions with Mr. Nakasone, I will be coming to New York
to sit down with Dr. Kissinger to finalize the proceedings of the
dialogue. Will he be available the first week of October?

Thank you very much.

BY FAX
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THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN

JULY 19, 1989

611-81

Dear Dr. Kissinger:

I enjoyed so much the breakfast meeting with you at your residence on July 5th, and it was fun teaching you how to use the newest Japanese massage product. I hope it is helping you a little.

As soon as I came back here, I have had various discussions with our company executives regarding the three proposals I raised with you. I gave them progress report based on my meeting with you.

On Kissinger-Nakasone dialogue in Hawaii, Nakasone accepted our proposal. He said he is more than happy to engage in a three-day freewheeling discussions with you starting _December 16th_ through _December 18th_ in Honolulu.

Please find enclosed our detailed proposal in this letter, and I would appreciate it very much if you could respond to me as soon as possible.

On the other two subjects, namely the creation of "Club 21" and Dr. Kissinger's China trip, I would write you later as details become available.

I thank you always for your help and understanding.

Looking forward to seeing you again.

THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN