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B: I think you are entitled to do that. You would not be strictly complying with the intent of the Senate.

K: What we would do then, if the Congress passes this, then we will submit it, retroactively submit it.

B: Oh, retroactively.

K: Yes, you and I understand each other. If Congress passes the legislation in this session then even though this agreement was consummated before, we would nevertheless submit the request to the Senate. If it doesn't pass, we would go ahead on the existing basis.

B: I think that's all right, Henry.

K: On another matter, the Indian rupee proposition. You know my own personal feelings about the Indians. I have been castigated bitterly by some of the liberal people around. This is a matter dealing not with dollars but with Indian rupees.

B: But you're only getting three cents on the dollar, which isn't very much really. The main point I was concerned about, the Senate.... that the State Department should act unilaterally because after all, it is tax funds.

K: It is, as I understand it, though I haven't had an opportunity to really familiarize myself fully... put before the Agriculture Committee and they have 30 days to register objections.

B: I don't know if that's exactly the situation....

K: As I understand it, that is something we would be prepared to do here. I am not asking you to do anything because the amendment has already passed.

B: .... I am looking at it from the point of view of the legislature and you are looking at it from the point of view of the State Department.

K: Exactly. I am looking at it from the point of view of the general relationships with India, having negotiated... in any event, after a month or so here, you won't have the feeling that the State Department is excessively inclined to cater to foreigners.

B: Glad to hear that, Henry, and I appreciate your calling. We should have that drink together, too.

TELCONE

October 3, 1973

12:46 p. m.

Senator Hugh Scott - Secretary Kissinger

S: I guess it's "no hon way" this week, rather than "dobri utro"?

K: How are you?

S: Fine, how are you?

K: Good.

S: I'm calling on a matter which personally disturbs me very much.
... Bill Brown, head of the EEOC... the White House wants to name
the deputy, Powell to that job. It's all right and his background fully
warrants it. Ambassador Hall tentatively suggested that he be on
the Commission to Geneva last year, but at the last minute some other
name went up, I think from the White House. He was offered a couple
of jobs which never appealed to him, in the nature of Ivory Coast and
Haiti, but he would like a chance to be ambassador to a more challenging
post... some interest from the top. I know you can't follow every-
thing, but...

K: As it happens Al Haig spoke to me about him on Saturday. I have
first to fill a few vacancies here in the Department. As soon as that
is done, I am going to turn to Ambassadors. I want to have all those
filled by the end of this year. So, I very well am aware of him, and
I am sure he's going to get most serious consideration. You can assure
him you talked to me and I will personally keep him in mind. You think
highly of him?

S: I got Johnson to appoint him... only Presidential commission I ever
got. ... He's a good lawyer, very well thought of and has a big following
around the country. He could be useful in many ways.

K: Right. You know the Chinese are giving a dinner for me before I go
off to China. They asked me to give them names for a guest list. I
wondered if you and your wife are free?

S: We'll be glad to if we are free.

K: I think it will be the 19th.

S: That sounds all right.

K: We will confirm it.

S: I will certainly give it the highest priority and make if we possibly
can.

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David Frost/Secretary Kissinger

2:55 pm

October 3, 1973

F: Hello

K: How are things there? I'll be there in a few weeks -- about the 14th or 15th.

F: I suppose it would be much easier for us to get together in W shington rather than here. I wanted to invite you to something small and informal -- a dinner in your honor. If there is a free moment?

K: I can't be sure. Will you call on the 14th?

F: Lovely, yes.

K: I will know something next week

F: Lovely, Lovely.

K: I don't know -- What in God's name is going on? (phone started making all sorts of noises)

F: I'll hang up and call you back again.

F: Hello, You'll be here for 2 or 3 days.

K: It's possible I could be free on Sunday night but I'm not sure.

F: If you say so I'll just have a few interesting people in for a small dinner.

K: As long as they are not official.

F: No, not one will be. I have started a regular series of television programs on Sunday. I presume you're not wishing to make any public appearances on TV?

K: No

F: I'm delighted by your conversation...

K: No appearances... except for by speech to the Pilgrims.

F: Oh, you're speaking to them. When next week will you be free?

K: Why don't you call me on Tuesday.

TELCORN

Dr. Henry Wallich - Secretary Kissinger

October 3, 1973

3:45 p. m.

K: How are you?

W: Fine. How are you?

K: Fine. I told me he talked to you yesterday about some of
my problems here and I was wondering whether you were free in
New York to see me, either late on Friday or Saturday or Sunday?

W: This week? Yes, that would be possible and Friday would in
some respects be better.

K: How would late in the day be, should we aim for 6:00? At
my suite at the Waldorf, 35A.

W: Very fine. I will be glad to be there. Dave made very general
reference to my, to whether I might be interested or be able to
give advice on other people.

K: Exactly. the economic position, Assistant Secretary. Exactly
right, that's what I wanted to talk to you about.

W: That would be very nice. I'll be there at 6:00.

K: Could you give your phone number, in case...

W: Surely, Office: 204/436-8390, Home: 203/562-2727.

K: OK, if you don't hear from me, see you at 6:00 on Friday.

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TELCONE

Mr. McCloskey - Secretary Kissinger

October 3, 1973

p. m.

M: ... up to the Secretary... that he could come home in light of the Senate action asking for his recall as a diplomatic. I talked to EUR... but I wanted to be sure you have no problems with his coming home.

K: Not if...

M: He wanted to come back anyway...

K: Just as basic guidance, though, I do not like that kind of diplomacy. I think... it's a bitch... We do not have that much ... on this issue, but I don't think it's proper and I think really as guidance we should do what's right and not worry about Congressional pressures. Don't say he's coming home as a protest, that he was coming home on business anyway.

M: Now that the China announcement is out of the way, I think we should say something about the European trip. I'll say simply that you will be in London speaking on that day, will be participating in the Chiefs of Mission conference to some extent...

K: And you can say that I plan to see Heath, Home and Scheel there and will see Jobert here at the end of next week. Make it clear that since I will be seeing Jobert here, there is no need to see him in Europe.

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