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Robert Blake (Am Emb Paris)
Mr. Kissinger

3-29-69

9:15 AM

B said he was calling about the Air Show. Lockheed wants to bring it over here by Defense Dept says no - AF is particularly opposed. K asked who was handling at Defense and B said Laird.

B said they are now batting 0 if they take away the C-5 - we have nothing to compare with what the Russians are doing. Shriver talked last night to General McConnel last night. B said point is that Sarge wonders if there is some way that K's office can make some inquiries about it. K said he would do so.

B said the General will arrive here tomorrow afternoon and has asked to see the President - wants to talk about the Middle East.

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General Goodpaster
Mr. Kissinger
3-29-69 10:45 AM

K asked whether G thought they had a slight problem. G agreed but said he thought they probably saved the essential points. G is amazed at his complete disregard for the leverage that will make the negotiations a success. K said he believes in strict negotiation. G said he really had to restrain himself from becoming violent. K said join the fraternity.

Discussed cancellation of NSC meeting on NATO. K said he was reluctant not to have this considered in the NSC as they will just run wild. K said if everything else fails, perhaps papers could be submitted to the President and he could sign a directive. K said he would get revised paper to G and after G has had a chance to look it over, he would like his recommendations as to what sort of directive the President should issue.

K said that he thought he should have another talk with Bunker and asked if G would like to join. G said he would be happy to and K will try for 4:30 today.

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Gov Rockefeller
Mr. Kissinger
3-29-69 11:00 (approx)

R said he would be down tomorrow and asked if K could see him on Monday re his LA trip. R would also like to see the President for a few minutes. K said he would be at the residence and K does not know if he will see anyone or not. K said he could let the President know that R is in town - basically, he is not seeing anyone expect those foreign leaders who cannot stay over until Tuesday.

R said he would be coming down tomorrow and would be at the
Foxhall Road house. K said he would call him there about 6:00 PM and would either see him tomorrow night or Monday.
(number at Foxhall Road FE 8-1366)

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John Walsh
Mr. Kissinger
7:50 PM 3-29-69

W asked if the President really wants us to do this?

HAK said I thought the President was talking about Hussein and I gave him all sorts of assurances and then it finally dawned on me that he was talking about Sihanouk and he said get him over here. I would certainly not think that you should go to great lengths of sending him a formal invitation. He told me to tell you to see to it that Sihanouk knew that he would be welcome.

W said it is not practical. We cannot do it physically. I don't think he could get here in time to make it. That would really fix us up good with Gorton. I think there would be some indication that the guy would be offended, in that it might be considered an empty gesture.

HAK said write me a memorandum making that point and I will take the responsibility on the basis of that of turning it off. But I think you should go on paper say that you have responded.

W said I wonder if you could turn this around and say we know the airline schedules are extremely poor but nevertheless the President wanted you to know that if you could manage it you would be welcome. A message like that if it was phrased that way might be OK.

HAK said send me a note saying in response to my request that you would like to call to my attention that there is only one weekly flight and that you are worried about the danger. I will then take the responsibility. The advantage of having it in writing is so that you have responded.

W asked if he could take up another subject. He asked HAK if he would feel better if he (W) would get a flash off to the Charge in Greece and ask him to inquire discreetly about whether the Government is aware of King Constantine's attendance at the funeral.

HAK said I believe we should avoid an indication of taking sides. If you could get that out of Pipenelis, it would clear our record. It would also help over here.

W said the local Ambassador intends to have his whole staff out.

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The President
Mr. Kissinger
3-31-69 8:55 AM

K said he wanted to let the President know there was another rocket attack on Saigon but it did not hit anything - three rockets fell into the city but no structures were hit. President said he would talk to Lodge today but we should be ready for that other one. President said they are playing around and we should let them have it again - crack the hell out of them. President said our major problem is for them not to have a sign that we are caving in. President said peace at any price is the thing that concerns him. K said we should take a hard look at it and he will get the material together. K said we should hit a different area this time and President agreed. K said the area he recommends is the area which is particularly inaccessible - where Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam meet.

President said he is going to have to get a hard message back to the Israelis - perhaps someone like Max Fisher could tell them. President said we are not going to put up with this. K said he would not get into a public controversy with them, just continue what we are doing. President said we are not going to be knocked off course, however. President asked whether de Gaulle's relations with Sihanouk are not pretty good. President said he thought he might ask him about the little fellow. K said President might give Fauzi (?) half an hour next week because he is willing to stay. K said on Sihanouk we have said they have to do it this week. President said he wants it done today - asked if K could get that little guy from Singapore in. President said he wants a report within an hour about what State has done on this and Nasser.

The President
Mr. Kissinger
3-31-69 9:00 AM

K said he thought perhaps Sihanouk should not be mentioned to de Gaulle - if other things come out, he might take as personal affront while if nothing at all is said, he would not expect to be told. Rixenk President said o.k.

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The President

Mr. Kissinger
3-31-69 8:55 AM

The President
Mr. Kissinger

3-31-69 9:00 AM

K said he thought perhaps Sihanouk should not be mentioned to de Gaulle - if other things come out, he might take as personal affront while if nothing at all is said, he would not expect to be told. For example, President said o.k.

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Mr. Haldeman
Mr. Kissinger

3-31-69 10:15 AM

Re tonight H said one of K's people ox or someone from State should
be assigned to each group as escorts. President wants to have
meetings in the Oval Room - groups will wait in West Hall Sitting
room and be brought up by elevator. While one group is inside
another group will be waiting in West Hall. K said he would have
schedule worked out within the next hour and would assign an
individual to each group. K said he would sit with them when they
come upstairs and a member of his staff would bring them up.
If K goes into meeting, that member of his staff would wait with
the group. K will organize the sequence of people and also how they
are to be brought up. K said he does not see how we cannot see
the Soviets.

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Secretary Rogers
Mr. Kissinger
3-31-69 10:30 AM

R said he wanted to talk a bit about tonight's reception - while President is seeing people he does not want everybody else to get totally left out. K said President has a list which we worked out with Alex Johnson - based almost entirely on his recommendations. K explained procedure to be followed tonight - while one group is meeting with the President another group will be taken upstairs to wait.

R said it would probably be best for all of us, including himself, to stay down and talk to the rest of them. R says he is getting a list of people he should talk to on Tuesday and Wednesday - asked K if he had seen the list. K said no, he would like to. K said President does not want to see the Russians and he thinks that is a mistake - R agreed. K said he would get it done. R said he thought country directors should be present when the President sees these people. K said President wants to see alone and he is trying to break that. R said it is important that notes be taken so we will know what he has committed himself to or said. K said he will try to get the country director in - if an NSC staff member is present he will take notes. R said he thinks it should be country director rather than an NSC staff member.

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Secretary Rogers

3:05 - 3/31/69

HAK said he had a chance to talk to the President about his (Rogers') suggestion. The P said he could be present in the anteroom or as an alternative, if he preferred, Rogers could sit in with him. HAK said the alternative might have some advantages for Rogers. HAK said Rogers should sit in with the Foreign Ministers at least.

HAK thought the Foreign Ministers would like to see Rogers and the President separately and Rogers could escort them in to see the President.

HAK wanted to know if it would be o.k. for him (HAK) to sit in on some of these too. Rogers said that would be fine but they could discuss that later.