Rita: No matter how you look at them, your survey results are misleading. Since people generally lie on such surveys, the numbers you collected are serious underestimates. Hiro: I have no doubt that people lie on surveys of this type. The question is whether some people lie more than others. While the raw numbers surely underestimate what I' m trying to measure, the relative rates those numbers represent are probably close to being accurate. Rita and Hiro disagree over whether ['the survey results are misleading regardless of how they are interpreted', 'people tend to lie on certain kinds of surveys', 'the raw numbers collected are serious underestimates', 'a different type of measure than a survey would produce results that are less misleading']