I always buy used/refurbished computers.  Previous experiences forced me to do a lot of re-configuring, updating, deleting bloatware and trouble shooting a variety of glitches before it was ready to go.  This one was totally different - in a good way.  Took about three hours to get it done instead of three days.  Can't find ANY bloatware.  Better, the OS is on an SSD (hanging loose) so boot up and crunching numbers are soundless.  Great product.  Great refurb.  I will buy from Sunset Micro from now on.