Watch out! There is this deceptive thing Amazon sellers are doing where they are listing the year it was refurbished and hoping you'll mistake that for the year of manufacture. It's not. These were made in 2015. The T450 is a great laptop and worth the price, but they are NOT new, not even close.EDIT: The deceptive wording seems to have been removed so I added a star. Highly overpriced however - Amazon sells newer ThinkPads that are better for less.