There's no point in buying new when you're going to upgrade the PSU and add a graphics card, more ram, etc. Not to mention, with all the people working and schooling at home due to Covid-19, the availability of new computers and parts is next to zero currently. I received an OptiPlex 9010 with an I5-3470 processor, 4-ram slot mobo with 4 sticks of ram, and a basic yet functional new keyboard and mouse which appeared used but cleaned. I added a 450 watt PSU and a second hand graphics card along with a 32" Toshiba TV that was on sale and now have a great computer that plays most of the games at 100fps on medium settings and functions for my kids online school from home program all for about $300.The computer came well packed in a heavy duty box with these big air mattress like protectors wrapped around it, best packing job I've seen a computer come in. A+ for this seller I'll be back for more when I need another.