I have had this going on two years now. Refurbished. It  has held up nicely. I do a lot of downloading and transferring of data. I go under the hood sometimes where I shouldn't be messing around and had to bring it back to life several times. It is very quiet after all of these years. Use a cheap external drive and free Macrium Reflect or free Aomei to have backups. If you like experimenting with your computer you won't regret it. It has saved me more times than I can count.  This one has 8gb of memory. I have another alongside of it Dell 3010 with 12gb.  This 8gb is actually faster than the 12gb.