I've bought plenty of tech over the years, including dozens of computers. If a general purpose laptop is what you need, you can't go wrong with a T480.Is it new? No, nor is it the latest bleeding edge tech. But if that's what you want you wouldn't be reading this. What it is though, is a reliable, enterprise class laptop computer with excellent features, ease of use, and enough power to handle almost any non-gaming related tasks.It was capable enough when it arrived, but I upgraded to 32GB of ram and a 2TB NVMe drive and it turned into a little powerhouse.