got mine on sale via open box. unit does get "audible" for sure under heaver usage or gaming. too bad there aren't intel nuc sized AMD Ryzen machines but, this is as close as you will get it's just slimer and wider. sure did free up a ton of desk space over an matx tower desktop. seems to play indie games on steam alright. i was also able to put my existing 2.5" SSD in to this machine as well.under load fan is noticeable, if you're sensitive to sound then i'd say it's definitely loud. if it was tad thicker with a thicker heat sink maybe it would be quieter?