This is the third refurbished machine I have ordered from Amazon.  Only 1 of them has arrived in acceptable packaging.  One PC was damaged beyond repair.  This PC arrived in a box with the corner completely opened due to the box being too small.  The box was only slightly larger than the PC and a very small amount of protective material was included and was only on one side of the box.  The mouse was completed demolished inside the box.The price was extremely attractive and would be a great bargain if you didn't have to ship them back due to shipping damage.Beware of Amazon's "Certified" Refurbishers.