got this machine in today. I bought a machine not a machine and a keyboard, and a mouse, they were included with it though.....the machine seems to be rock solid, but a keyboard and mouse are just the usual cheapos.Anyways the machine is up and running ubuntu 22.04 and the keyboard and mouse are probably going to be saved to use when a keyboard or mouse bites the dust, till another one comes in. And yeah, I'd buy another one....as like I said....I got what I expected.....and that's good enough for me.......