I needed a simple computer with windows 10 because support was ending for my windows seven . I decided to try a cheaper refurbished one as opposed to new. I couldn't be happier. Set up was easy and I was up and running within a half hour. Haven't needed support yet and I did pay extra for the warranty in case there was a problem. so far there hasn't been. Only downfall was that office was not included but the price of the computer, including Windows 10 plus warranty was still  cheaper than a brand new one. Even when adding the office program. I don't do gamming much except for the simple facebook games and I have a pretty old monitor so I cant speak as to what it would be like for gaming but "Value for money" I think its a 5!