So, very good deal, currently self hosting a bunch of things with these, easy to upgrade, inside is clean, hard to open, I ordered 2 and one was Dell but had the same specs, asked for at least have a refund, didn't wanna return it because I already set it up, so guess it was fine, not a bad deal, may upgrade review seeing how long it last, I installed proxmox on it, works fine, got Pterodactyl installed on Proxmox, a discord bot on that, and more in the future, also hosting a website and hiding my ip with cloudflare tunnels, seller refused to give half refund and said I had to contact Amazon, and I knew Amazon would make me return it, which I didn't wanna do, so guess I'm stuck with it.