Got this PC in 5 days. opened the box and the first thing I see is about 4 to 5 inches of protecting ball things. the pc was extremely clean, the insides were neat and there wasn't a cable mess. it booted in about 5 seconds and it was like a totally brand new 600-ish dollar computer. up to now, it has handled almost every application i can think of with flying colors, that is with an $50 low profile graphics card. if it wasn't refurbished and all components were bought new, including the OS, it would cont about 700 dollars separate so i'm amazed by the price!