I have been buying/using PCs since before they were called PCs.  So I am a bit skeptical about refurbished or renewed models.  This one may break the mold, though.  Modest price (without bells and whistles - KB and MON) but some solid guts.  Nice pile of MEM (6 GB) with a 1 TB HDD, Optical Disk Drive and USB ports.  The CPU is speedy enough for  uncritical uses.  A nice all-around, all-purpose machine.  Did these guys not get the memo?