I've purchased several of these refurbished in the last few years. Usually they are pretty good. I just bought 2 in the last 60 days. One has frozen up, but it did reboot so I'll see if it continues to work. The other one has just stopped dead. HP support says the Hard Drive is toast. No big deal, easy to return. But a royal pain in the rump to have to wait on another machine and then reinstall all the programs I use. Still a good deal price wise. I guess you get what you pay for.