I read a lot of reviews before purchasing this pc, some had good luck, some bad. Some said it was dirty and looked like it was NOT refurbished. I will say this, it was dirty on the inside, full of dust bunnies. However it works like new. When first booting it up you have to set it all up just like when you buy a new one or new install of windows, leading me to believe some refurbishing must have been done. The integrated graphics card is very weak making this computer not good for gaming........ unless you install an upgraded graphics card like I did. Wow. Now this thing flies! The 8 gigs of RAM is critical here folks. Don't get any less, and any more seems unneeded, at least by today's standards. So maybe I got lucky and got a good one, who knows. For the money? Unbeatable. Oh yea by the way, the keyboard and mouse that come with it are junk but who cares? Keep them for spares or re-gift em!