Hardware - If you are looking for a decent, powerful workstation for normal desktop use (ie not gaming) then this is a good value. The i5 CPU in this machine is still plenty fast and you shouldn't have any problems with lag or speed. The 8GB of RAM is also nice especially this cheap.These machines should be reliable for years to come but the included 5 year old Seagate Hard Drive would give me pause. With any older machine you start to worry about the mechanical hard drive after a period of time.. this is no different. I factored in the purchase of a 250GB SSD into this which makes the machine fly even faster anyway.Overall this makes more sense (at least to me) than buying a new machine that's less powerful.Condition: OK this is where things get dicey. The ad promises: and certified by the manufacturer or by a third-party refurbisher to look and work like new, with limited to no signs of wear.Ha! They are literally grabbing these things from expired leases, re-imaging the drives with a default WIndows 10 and kicking them out the door.. perhaps literally. Sure the machine had scratches and nicks.. a bit more than 'normal' use but whatever. Definitely not 'like new'. It also had a dented case.. so bad the cover wouldn't close without having someone bend the latch to make it fit. It's going under the desk whatever I don't care but this is hardly a well cared for re-manufacture this was done quick, cheap and dirty.What really got me though was the smell. Out of the box this thing REEKED of curry. It was so bad it made the entire room smell like an Indian Restaurant. It took me about 3 days of a combo of Vinegar, Baking Soda and letting it 'air' out to get the smell down to acceptable levels. Obviously quality isn't a big concern here.Bottom Line: If you are looking for a cheap, decent desktop but don't care if it looks like it was kicked down the stairs then stored in a box chicken tikka for 6 months then you'll be OK.