I have purchased many PCs from these folks and about 50% are fine, 30% are shipped incomplete and 20% are just broken straight out of the box. I just took one out of the box and it had a nice little inspected by sheet taped to it. When I booted it up, I immediately got post back errors... Really, so this was inspected? By what standards? I am getting my PCs from someone else from now on. Refurbed or not, people are paying for working PCs and not for a project to get a PC working. That is what we are paying you for.