I thought I’d save some money on these and sure, I did but if I didn’t need them immediately I’d return them. The cases had obvious scratches, the micr on nigh had some kind of funky funk in the scroll wheels and The power cord was beyond filthy Ok both. I don’t even want to look inside the case. There was some crapware antivirus scam software that I had to remove. Overall I got what I paid for but won’t buy from this place again. I should have purchased new.1 star because they both powered up, so that’s a bonus.