1st Laptop: The refurbished part seems to be an off brand ssd, which was the first thing to go (not salvagable). a backup ssd made it one day and i believe i've lost a transistor on the mother board, beyond what i can fix, but looking these up online those two things are the commonly repaired parts. Made it 18 months.2nd laptop: i guess i enjoy pain. Refurbished parts seem to be the speakers and once again that offbrand ssd. Out of the box the fan sounded like a helicopter landing in my office so i stole the one off the dead 1st laptop. We'll see how long this goes but only need another 18 months so hope to make it that far.