I wanted to try a PC with a Ryzen processor. I saw that this was refurbished, so I bought it. First negative thing. It used display port. I had to buy the little VGA adapter that fits inside and replaces the display port adapter. It was a pain to install. I had to upgrade the RAM. 8 gigs is just not enough for modern systems. I powered it up and discovered that it has an NVME drive with Windows 10 installed. OK. But, it is using TPM, and secure boot. Both things I have no use for. So, I will have to disable both, and probably reinstall Windows. It does seem fairly speedy. I didn't spend a lot of time checking that particular aspect. One thing I did notice was that it runs hot. I couldn't hold my fingers on the CPU cooler. The fan is anemic, at best. If I decide to actually start using it as a daily driver, I will have to figure out how to provide some extra cooling. I guess it isn't a bad little PC, especially if you are pressed for space. But, I do believe this is one of those times where bigger is better.