I have just finished  boxing the second  one of these for return  they look  new coming out of the box  and the first one  actually booted up and let me  put  the windows and  linux  then the fan went berserk and  started turning off the monitor  the second one  would make a noise  like an old car i had once that needed a solenoid  but never got past that  i really do need a computer but not these.