Great deal for the money. My box was made in 2013.  Running Crystal Disk on it, the HDD was in use for 44.5K hours!  Near the end of its life in my view.  I suspect my unit was sitting in a school or office for years where it was left on at least 8 hours a day. I am upgrading it myself to SSD so the HDD is not that kind of issue.  Also upgraded the BIOS which was relatively easy. However, if you dont have the technical skill for doing these things, this PC is kind of a gamble.  But for those who can do light fixes on their PC, this is an excellent value.