I Got my P.C. @ B.B. and paid almost $500.00 for it new and it's bare bones. very basic, I had to put more memory on it but when I saw your P.C.s I could not believe all the extras and the price. I like the Refurbs best , They're cheaper by a lot. let someone else get the kinks out. Then you don't have to worry about it. Thank You, Blair, Now I trust this company. They have a good Program. Would buy it again!