I'm a computer geek and often build my own and/or mod things to make them suit my needs...I decided on a refurbed Win10 machine to start with (as the cost wasn't much more than buying just Win10 on its own) planning to ultimately add more memory, bigger power supply and a graphics card etc.  I am not sure what I was expecting from this purchase-- the price was low and it looked to have many really good solid components, so I bit the bullet and crossed my fingers that what arrived would be exactly what was described.  I thought the machine would be a little beat up and the innards a little on the cheap and loud side regarding fans etc...and if that is what had arrived, I still would have been happy at the price point I paid.  What arrived (a day early even) was a pristine shrink wrapped machine with components looking brand new-- not a speck of dust to be seen, not a scratch... or really any indication it had been used.  I plugged it in to give it a once over to make sure everything was as it said it would be, with the plans to make the upgrades as soon as I determined everything was in order.  It has worked so well-- utterly silent, quick, responsive, without a hitch (even with the on board graphics, 8GB of memory and kind of puny power supply)-- that it has allowed me to use it as-is for everyday tasks for over a week and not hurry to make the changes because I'm just not suffering regarding speed or graphics etc.  Honestly this purchase exceeded my every expectation and I'd like to thank the people who took such care to rebuild such an outstanding PC at a great price.  I really appreciate the great work- best refurb I've ever seen, hands down.  If you just read emails, surf, shop and chat etc you wouldn't really even need to make any modifications for this to serve you for a few years at least.  (Though I'd still bump up the memory.)