( 4 ) cds adjustment represents credit protection purchased from european peripherals 2019 banks on european peripherals 2019 sovereign and financial institution risk . based on the cds notional amount assuming zero recovery adjusted for any fair value receivable or payable . ( 5 ) represents cds hedges ( purchased and sold ) on net counterparty exposure and funded lending executed by trading desks responsible for hedging counterparty and lending credit risk exposures for the company . based on the cds notional amount assuming zero recovery adjusted for any fair value receivable or payable . ( 6 ) in addition , at december 31 , 2013 , the company had european peripherals exposure for overnight deposits with banks of approximately $ 111 million . industry exposure 2014otc derivative products . the company also monitors its credit exposure to individual industries for current exposure arising from the company 2019s otc derivative contracts . the following table shows the company 2019s otc derivative products by industry at december 31 , 2013 : industry otc derivative products ( 1 ) ( dollars in millions ) .

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industry	otc derivative products ( 1 ) ( dollars in millions )
utilities	$ 3142
banks and securities firms	2358
funds exchanges and other financial services ( 2 )	2433
special purpose vehicles	1908
regional governments	1597
healthcare	1089
industrials	914
sovereign governments	816
not-for-profit organizations	672
insurance	538
real estate	503
consumer staples	487
other	1157
total	$ 17614
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( 1 ) for further information on derivative instruments and hedging activities , see note 12 to the consolidated financial statements in item 8 . ( 2 ) includes mutual funds , pension funds , private equity and real estate funds , exchanges and clearinghouses and diversified financial services . operational risk . operational risk refers to the risk of loss , or of damage to the company 2019s reputation , resulting from inadequate or failed processes , people and systems or from external events ( e.g. , fraud , legal and compliance risks or damage to physical assets ) . the company may incur operational risk across the full scope of its business activities , including revenue-generating activities ( e.g. , sales and trading ) and control groups ( e.g. , information technology and trade processing ) . legal , regulatory and compliance risk is included in the scope of operational risk and is discussed below under 201clegal , regulatory and compliance risk . 201d the company has established an operational risk framework to identify , measure , monitor and control risk across the company . effective operational risk management is essential to reducing the impact of operational risk incidents and mitigating legal , regulatory and reputational risks . the framework is continually evolving to account for changes in the company and respond to the changing regulatory and business environment . the company has implemented operational risk data and assessment systems to monitor and analyze internal and external operational risk events , business environment and internal control factors and to perform scenario analysis . the collected data elements are incorporated in the operational risk capital model . the model encompasses both quantitative and qualitative elements . internal loss data and scenario analysis results are direct inputs to the capital model , while external operational incidents , business environment internal control factors and metrics are indirect inputs to the model. .

Question: did the company have more exposure to the insurance industry than the real estate industry in its derivative portfolio?
Program: greater(538, 503)
Answer: yes