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mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) writes: mjs>Secondly, it is the adhesion of the mjs>tyre on the road, the suspension geometry  and the ground clearance of the mjs> motorcycle which dictate how quickly you can swerve to avoid obstacles, and mjs>not the knowledge of physics between the rider's ears. Are you seriously             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ mjs>suggesting that countersteering knowledge enables you to corner faster mjs>or more competentlY than you could manage otherwise??  egreen@east.sun.com writes: ed>If he's not, I will.    Hey Ed, you didn't give me the chance!  Sheesh!  The answer is, absolutely!, as Ed so eloquently describes:  ed>Put two riders on identical machines.  It's the ed>one who knows what he's doing, and why, that will be faster.  It *may* ed>be possible to improve your technique if you have no idea what it is, ed>through trial and error, but it is not very effective methodology. ed>Only by understanding the technique of steering a motorcycle can one                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ed>improve on that technique (I hold that this applies to any human ed>endeavor).  Herein lies the key to this thread:  Kindly note the difference in the responses.  Ed (and I) are talking about knowing riding technique, while Mike is arguing knowing the physics behind it.  It *is* possible to be taught the technique of countersteering (ie: push the bar on the inside of the turn to go that way) *without* having to learn all the fizziks about gyroscopes and ice cream cones and such as seen in the parallel thread.  That stuff is mainly of interest to techno-motorcycle geeks like the readers of rec.motorcycles  ;^), but doesn't need to be taught to the average student learning c-steering. Mike doesn't seem to be able to make the distinction.  I know people who can carve circles around me who couldn't tell you who Newton was. On the other hand, I know very intelligent, well-educated people who think that you steer a motorcycle by either: 1) leaning, 2) steering a la bicycles, or 3) a combination of 1 and 2.  Knowledge of physics doesn't get you squat - knowledge of technique does!
I don't know about the dinky little Zephyr's, but the 1100 (now the ZR1100) looks alot like my '76 Z1/ KZ900!  The one I drooled over at Tri-Sports in Topsham, ME was a looker!  Yes, Mercury axed the Zephyr name.  Guess a lot of aging Republicans wanted a Zephyr and confused the Mercury with the Kawasaki :).  Oh well, they're better off with the Kawasaki anyways.  Maybe it'll shake the stick out of their asses and  make Libertarians out of them!  As to the GPz <--> Zephyr, the only GPz I've seen had the ball-buster gas tank profile, not the smooth saddle - to - gas tank transition. _Motorcyclist_ claims the Zephyr / ZR is the modernized Z1 (KZ) from the seventies. Jeff Andle   DoD #3005  1976 KZ900     REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Erik Asphaug x2773 (asphaug@lpl.arizona.edu) wrote: : Unless... some insurance agent offers a multi-vehicle discount.  They : do this all the time for cars, assuming that you're only capable of   Progressive offers multi-vehicle discounts. Good prices too IMHO.  tony
3500 miles, black leather tank bra, tank bag, Corbin seat, Metzler 'B' tires.  Garaged and pampered.  I can't afford to continue paying NYC garage fees for two bikes so one of 'em has to go.  Best offer above $4500 takes it.
I am thinking of going on a motorcycle tour in New Zealand in the November-January timeframe.  There are a few tour companies doing this, notably Beach Tours.  Can anyone who has done this let me know of their experiences, both good and bad? Thanks.
In article <1993Apr18.230531.11329@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> keithh@bnr.ca (Keith Hanlan) writes: >In article <13386@news.duke.edu> infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante) writes: >>Well, it looks like I'm F*cked for insurance. >> >>I had a DWI in 91 and for the beemer, as a rec. >>vehicle, it'll cost me almost $1200 bucks to insure/year. >> >>Now what do I do? > >Sell the bike and the car and start taking the bus. That way you can >keep drinking which seems to be where your priorities lay. > >I expect that enough of us on this list have lost friends because of >driving drunks that our collective sympathy will be somewhat muted.  Look, guy, I doubt anyone here approves of Drunk Driving, but if he's been caught and convicted and punished maybe you ought to lighten up? I mean, it isn't like most of us haven't had a few and then ridden or driven home. *We* just didn't get caught. And I can speak for myself and say it will *never* happen again, but that is beside the point.  In answer to the original poster: I'd insure whatever vehicle is cheapest, and can get you to and from work, and suffer through it for a few years, til your rates drop.  And *don't* drink and drive. I had one friend killed by a  drunk, and I was rear ended by one, totaling my bike (bent frame), and only failing to kill me because I had an eye on my mirror while I waited at the stoplight.  Regards, Charles DoD0.001 RZ350
In article <C5sK1D.C1p@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> frankb@sad.hp.com (Frank Ball) writes: }Honda:  a "V" designates a V engine street bike. "VF" for V-4, "VT" for V-twin.  So how about my Honda Hawk (NT 650)? It's a twin, but not called a VT.
In article <1993Apr23.163805.9516@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes: > >	Spray the chain wax onto the rollers and sideplates occassionally, and >rust will not be a problem.  	I did.  Regularly.  And it was.  				Michael
In article <1993Apr15.164644.7348@hemlock.cray.com>, ant@palm21.cray.com (Tony Jones) writes: |>  |> How about someone letting me know MOTORCYCLE DETAILING TIP #19 ? |>  |> The far side of my instrument panel was scuffed when the previous owner |> dumped the bike. Same is true for one of the turn signals. |>  |> Both of the scuffed areas are black plastic. |>  |> I recall reading somewhere, that there was some plastic compound you could coat |> the scuffed areas with, then rub it down, ending with a nice smooth shiny  |> finish ? |>   In the May '93 Motorcyclist (pg 15-16), someone writes in and recomends using rubberized undercoating for this.   --  Von Welch (vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu)	NCSA Networking Development Group '93 CBR600F2			'78 KZ650		'83 Subaru GL 4WD
In article <C52nnt.J3I@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Russell.P.Hughes@dartmouth.edu (R ussell P. Hughes) writes: >What a great day! Got back home last night from some fantastic skiing >in Colorado, and put the battery back in the FXSTC. Cleaned the plugs, >opened up the petcock, waited a minute, hit the starter, and bingo it >started up like a charm! Spent a restless night anticipating the first >ride du saison, and off I went this morning to get my state inspection >done. Now my bike is stock (so far) except for HD slash-cut pipes, and                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Therein lies the rub.  The HD slash cut, or baloney cuts as some call them, ARE NOT STOCK mufflers.  They're sold for "off-road use only," and are much louder than stock mufflers.
In article <5036@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@tazmanian.prime.com (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317) writes: >In article <18843.1076.uupcb@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> grant.barkwell@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Grant Barkwell) writes: >> >>CP>Too my certain knowledge, simply posessing a motorcycle >>CP>can get you "laid". >> >>True! Oh so very thankfully true! > >Gentlemen; > >	Please do us all a rather appropriate favor and excuse the >comments about your sexual fortunes on the net. It is hardly an  Tod, I think you've misspoke.  If they're banking on owning a motorcycle to get them laid, then I doubt they have sexual fortunes.  Quite the reverse...
In article <1993Apr21.092613.1344@hsh.com> binger@hsh.com writes: >In article <1993Apr20.150337.2963@rd.hydro.on.ca>, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca ( Jody Levine) writes:>>>So the question I have is "HOW DANGEROUS IS  RIDING"?            >>   >I might only add two things.... stupid road design (or poor, at least) and  Here in Louisiana the State Sign is "CAUTION - SUB-STANDARD ROADWAY".   ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----
In article <1993Apr2.144102.7445@rd.hydro.on.ca>, 	 jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes... >In article <1993Apr01.155407.11314@i88.isc.com>  >	jeq@lachman.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes: >>In article <1993Mar31.175023.18928@rchland.ibm.com> >>	 pooder@msus1.msus.edu	 writes:  >>>>sampled recently were using unauthorized software, the Inspector General >>>>said in a new report.  >>The Inspector General?  >>Make way, for His Excellency, The Inspector General!   >>(...Hail, hail to Brodney, to the sky...)  >Behold the Lord High Executioner...  >no, that's something else.  	I've already discussed this in e-mail with Jonathan.  It's the film "The Inspector General"  [:-)], with Danny Kaye, although I can't quote the name of the leading lady (Because Maltin doesn't :-().  Jonathan thinks there was an earlier Russian film; "Movies on TV" just says it was based on a Gogol (Yes, Jonathan, I looked it up again -- only two o's) story.
In article <3aX42B1w164w@cellar.org>, craig@cellar.org (Saint Craig) wrote: >  > 	It can be done, contact Chaparell cycle supply, [...] Hey they even  >  had sprockets for my VF1000R which is hard to find accesssories for.   	I second that.  They even had sprockets for my R100rs - _very_ hard 	to find.
In <1993Apr15.192558.3314@icomsim.com> mmanning@icomsim.com (Michael Manning) writes:  >In article <oXZ12B1w164w@cellar.org> craig@cellar.org (Saint Craig)   >writes: >> shz@mare.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes: >>   >Most people wave or return my wave when I'm on my Harley. >Other Harley riders seldom wave back to me when I'm on my >duck. Squids don't wave, or return waves ever, even to each >other, from what I can tell.     When we take a hand off the bars we fall down!  __    Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who    Arch. & Eng. Services   |"Lost Horizons"  CR500 | I think I am.     UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer"   IT175 |           - anonymous
In article 211353@mavenry.altcit.eskimo.com, maven@mavenry.altcit.eskimo.com (Norman Hamer) writes: >  > The question for the day is re: passenger helmets, if you don't know for  >certain who's gonna ride with you (like say you meet them at a .... church  >meeting, yeah, that's the ticket)... What are some guidelines? Should I just  >pick up another shoei in my size to have a backup helmet (XL), or should I  >maybe get an inexpensive one of a smaller size to accomodate my likely  >passenger?   If your primary concern is protecting the passenger in the event of a crash, have him or her fitted for a helmet that is their size.  If your primary concern is complying with stupid helmet laws, carry a real big spare (you can put a big or small head in a big helmet, but not in a small one).
azw@aber.ac.uk(Andy Woodward) writes: azw>Weight and size over rough roads is a definite no-no. If is starts to azw>drift, you aint going to catch it.  leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) says: mrb>If you're riding hard enough for this to be of concern, then yes, a mrb>lighter bike is more beneficial.  ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant) writes: ms>If you're not riding hard enough for this to be a concern, are you ms>having any fun?  Sure.  I've never been much of a racerboy, as anybody who's attended the Minibike Spectacular can attest.  ;^)  I get a great deal of satisfaction in riding fast, yet now so fast as to be overly concerned about not being able to maintain a clean line.  And while I'm still known to slide the occasional tire, I much prefer to stay just to the sticky side of that line.  I've found that I don't heal as well as I used to in days of yore.  BTW, how's the knee?  mrb>anyway.  Am I more likely to catch a 400 than a 250?  Not necessarily. mrb>Tires, road surface and rider ability are a much more important criteria.  ms>Actually, big horsepower is just as likely to get you out of trouble ms>when it "Starts to Drift" as your puny body mass pushing on stuff. A well ms>placed push from 80 or 90 horsepower can do a lot to straighten or change ms>in a beneficial way the trajectory of the bike/rider system. That's a   Quite true.  Another plus for a 500+ bike, the original thread, I think. Damn circular threads...  ;^)  ms>Go fast. Take chances. ms> ms>	Mike S.  Mr. Bill
In article <1r1nujINNcti@gap.caltech.edu> ridgway@cco.caltech.edu (Alex Ridgway) writes: +paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein) writes: +>[My problem] turned out to be a screw unscrewed inside my Mikuni HS40  +>carb.  I keep hearing that one should keep all of the screws +>tight on a bike, but I never thought that I had to do that +>on the screws inside of a carb.  At least it was roadside +>fixable and I was on my way in hardly any time. + +Gee, I always figured that it was the loose screws on/in the _rider_ +that were most likely to cause any problems.  Did you check for that +at the same time?  That is very true.  However, screws have been loose on this rider for quite some time, so they had been taken into account. ____________________________________________________________________________ 		Russian Roulette is fun 5 out of 6 times
There have been a *lot* of posts lately about "I wanna buy my first bike - is a GSXR/ZX/CBR/FZR a good bike to learn on?" etc.  I think I'm going to put together a FAQ on buying a new bike. Ravi used to post one all the time.
In article <1993Apr15.222224.1@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg>,  ba7116326@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg writes: |> hello there |> ican anyone who has handson experience on riding the Yamaha v-max, pls kindly |> comment on its handling .  I remember a commercial for some cheap, top- heavy import cage a while back, where the  driver says while wearing a stuck-up fake  TV anouncers smile:  "It Really goes Straight!"
1975 H-1 500      Brand new top end      Chambers      Clean + black!      1,500$      Paul: (510) 839-2161  Please do not contact this email address: contact the seller.  Cheers
This summer (~July 20) my wife (Michelle) and I will be in Boston attending my brother's wedding.  After the wedding we are planning to motor up to Bar Harbor, Maine to visit some relatives for a few days.  Our summer would be *made* if we could find a bike (or bikes) to borrow or rent to ride up to Bar Harbor and back.  Here's some important details:  I've been riding for ~11 years, (my own bikes for the past 7 years), Michelle has been riding for the past 6 years (her own bikes), I've only been involved in one accident which was caused by a cage driver running a stop sign, I currently own a BMW R90, Michelle owns a Yamaha Virago 700, we prefer cruising over racing, we've toured a fair amount, we're both licensed and insured, and we're nice people.  So, if anyone has a bike (or bikes :-), but the second one would have to be a Virago or something else with an equally low seat) that they would be willing to loan us for 3-4 days in July, Michelle and I would be eternally grateful. In addition to our friendship, you would also have the use of our bikes should you ever pass through Minneapolis. In exchange, we would be happy to take you and a guest out for dinner and an evening of wild bike stories, or we might even be willing to cough up some money for improvements to the bike(s), like new tires or something.  Also, any information about bike rentals in the Boston area would be greatly appreciated.
In article <1993Apr21.030201.27904@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes: >In article <1r25ldINN9rp@frigate.cis.ohio-state.edu> fields@cis.ohio-state.edu (jonathan david fields) writes:  >>This is probably a stupid question but as I am new to the motorcycle scene >>I don't really know anything about it. What is DoD?  > >	This has to be a setup.  Lookit--same site as Arnie Skurow.
Anyone in Europe got any advice for a US citizen whose going to be living and working in Italy for a year and wants to buy a motorcycle there?  An Italian friend just arrived here in Washington State to work for two years, and she's finding it very very difficult to obtain car insurance.  So I thought I'd ask...  I have a US license, with motorcycle endorsement (unlimited displacement), and have had for 30 years.  I am also a Washington State Motorcycle Safety instructor, if that info might help.  I will post a summary, even if it's just of my own personal experience in  buying a bike and getting it insured after I get to Italy.
In article <C5rIwA.2or@world.std.com> CGKarras@world.std.com (Christopher G Karras) writes: > >After reading the service manual for my bike (Suzuki GS500E--1990) I have >a couple of questions I hope you can answer: > >When checking the oil level with the dip stick built into the oil fill >cap, does one check it with the cap screwed in or not?  	Most bikes I've seen that use a dipstick rather than a 	sight glass are designed to check it without screwing it 	in.  In the manual for my CBR900RR, they specifically 	state it should be done this way.  				Michael
In article <1993Apr18.191521.11604@microsoft.com>  chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes: > >Generic bike riders actually seem to raise the hand entirely >off the handlebar and wave it around, so it's easy to tell >when they're waving.  And DoDers are easily recognized by their own special wave. Pay attention and I'll tell you how to do it. Hold your left hand out in front of you, fingers straight but apart - like a vase. You may also use your right hand if you have a throttle lock or are stopped. Bring your fingertips and thumb together, touch, and open back to the starting position. While you are doing this, move your hand slowly to the left. Do it gracefully and with a waving motion. You are now imitating a squid propelling itself about underwater probably in search of food, drink, squids of the appropriate sexual orientation, or other squids to go riding with.
In article 0180@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA, C70A000 <C70A@UNB.CA> () writes: >In article <3880218@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) writes: >>/ hpcc01:rec.motorcycles / xlyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu /  2:48 pm  Apr 19, 1993 / >>Is it possible to do a "wheelie" on a motorcycle with shaft-drive? >> >>Mike Terry >>'82 Virago >>---------- >>I've seen 'em, but the real question is, can one do a wheelie on a Lead Wing? >>If so, how high would the front wheel be off the ground? > > Wheelies on Lead Wings are possible, but they ain't easy, or so my >(hhmmm, what is the relation?) great uncle several times removed tells >me.  As for how high, how high do you want 'em?  Modulation isn't >exactly the easiest thing in the world, or so says a guy 57 years old...  Well, apparently once you get past about 6 inches, all the luggage shifts back in the panniers, the passenger slides back, and the dog ends up hanging onto the top rack, and they go all the way over until it's flat on it's ass, with the front wheel straight up in the sky.  Impressive, but hard on the tail lights. :)
Hi there kids and kidlets...   It your ol' pal the KotPM  (Keeper of the Pin Money!)   I've got good new and bad news...  	Good news - I got laid..er... 	The pins will be coming, to use the computer software phrase,  "real 	soon now"  	Bad news - Right after we placed our order, the company upped its 	minimum order for manufacturing.  We got in under the wire (with 	an order of 115 or so pins), but as a result of the low number of 	pins, we were relegated to the "we'll get to it in-between other 	runs" bin.  As a result, it seems that it may be another 4 or 5 weeks 	until your beloved Geeky is guiding you along the blacktop..  (And 	we thought madonnas on the dashboard were foolish; hmmm, now, if that 	were Madonna sitting on my dashboard, that could be DANGEROUS...hell. 	I'm tough.)     SO...please continue to be patient.  As soon as they arrive, I'll post    	the grand announcement, and rush our Messiah on his way directly 	to your abode.  In the meantime, if you need revised versions of the 	holy word of Geeky, please send $15.95 cash or money order (no COD's) 	to:  	Ranch Apocalyp...er......Ashram Geeky, 305 Cyberspace Place...  	I'm off to MSF class...hope it's not too BORING...my wife made me go 	with her!
In article <1qfkqhINN1s7@rodan.UU.NET> smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield) writes: >Yes, my front tire is all but dead.  It has minimal tread left, so it's >time for a new one.  Any recommendations on a good tire in front?  I'm >riding on an almost brand new ME55A in back.   Stick an ME33 on the front.  I've got a Laser on the front of my GPz, and it has been a fantastic tire.  Best front tire I've ever had.
In article <1r1uea$33m@slack.sim.es.com> pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes: > >Also looking for brakes or info on relining existing shoes.      Vintage Brakes     176 Bluefield Ave.     Newbury Park, CA.  91320     (805)498-5527      They reline all types of obsolete motorcycle brake shoes with Ferodo material.  >Also any other Maicoletta owners anywhere to have contact with.      Place to try:      Deutsches Motorrad Register     8663 Grover Place     Shreveport, LA 71115     (club for all types of two-wheeled German equipment, including      scooters.  I periodically see ads for Maico scooter stuff in their      newsletter.)  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dave Tharp                      | DoD #0751   | "You can't wear out       | | davet@interceptor.CDS.TEK.COM   | MRA #151    |   an Indian Scout,        | | '88 K75S  '48 Indian Chief      | AHRMA #751  |  Or its brother the Chief.| | '75 R90S(#151) '72 TR-2B(#751)  | AMA #524737 |  They're built like rocks | | '65 R50/2/Velorex  '57 NSU Max  |             |   to take the knocks,     | |       1936 BMW R12              | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that     | | My employer has no idea.        |   Joiner)   |   give you grief."        |
In article <1qc2fu$c1r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:  >Loud pipes are a biligerent exercise in ego projection,  No arguements following, just the facts.  I was able to avoid an accident by revving my engine and having my *stock* Harley pipes make enough noise to draw someones attention.  I instinctively revved my engine before I went for my horn. Don't know why, but I did it and it worked. Thats rather important.  I am not saying "the louder the pipes the better". My Harley is loud and it gets me noticed on the road for that reason. I personally do not feel it is to loud. If you do, well thats to bad; welcome to  America - "Home of the Free, Land of the Atlanta Braves".  If you really want a fine tuned machine like our federal government to get involved and pass Db restrictions; it should be generous enough so that a move like revving your engine will get you noticed. Sure there are horns but my hand is already on the throttle. Should we get into how many feet a bike going 55mph goes in .30 seconds; or how long it would take me to push my horn button??  And aren't you the guy that doesn't even have a bike???
Sigha.    1) Trying to figure out a way to put a halogen beam on my CB360T... Are  there any easy ways to do this (i.e. a "slip-in" bulb replacement)?    2) Was told by a guy at the bike shop that my "not damn near bright enough"  incandescent beam might be caused by a perma-low battery. So I went and  picked up this cheapo "Motorcycle battery and charging system tester"...  Hook it up to the battery, it's got 3 lights on "Very good charge"... Start  the engine (to test the charging system), and it doesn't even REGISTER. It's  supposed to light 5 or 6 lights if everything is OK, but it stays down at  the same point as just the battery.    My question here is, if indeed my charging system is just plain messed up,  how the HECK is the battery staying fully charged? I'd think it would be  darned near dead from supporting my lights, etc...    Do the '75 CB360T's have a problem with their charging system? Are they  just generally slower charging than what is normal for bigger bikes?    Is there an easy fix for this?    3) Happy noise: Put 300 miles on my bike this weekend, finally got myass an  endorsement.... which is REALLY GOOD, because my cage just quit running  worth a damn and I won't have money to repair it until the first... ;) And  the weatherman says "Bright and Sunny all week, 20% chance of rain on  friday"...