In article <1993Apr20.173009.10580@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, deniz@mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu (Deniz Akkus) writes: |> In article <1993Apr20.164517.20876@kpc.com> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes: |> >In article <1993Apr20.000413.25123@ee.rochester.edu>, terziogl@ee.rochester.edu (Esin Terzioglu) writes:  henrik]  My response to the "shooting down" of a Turkish airplane over the  henrik]  Armenian air space was because of the IGNORANT posting of the  henrik]  person from your Country. Turks and Azeris consistantly WANT to  henrik]  drag ARMENIA into the KARABAKH conflict with Azerbaijan. The  henrik]  KARABAKHI-ARMENIANS who have lived in their HOMELAND for 3000  henrik]  years (CUT OFF FROM ARMENIA and GIVEN TO AZERIS BY STALIN) are  henrik]  the ones DIRECTLY involved in the CONFLICT. They are defending  henrik]  themselves against AZERI AGGRESSION. Agression that has NO MERCY  henrik]  for INOCENT people that are costantly SHELLED with MIG-23's and  henrik]  othe Russian aircraft.   henrik]  At last, I hope that the U.S. insists that Turkey stay out of the  henrik]  KARABAKH crisis so that the repeat of the CYPRUS invasion WILL  henrik]  NEVER OCCUR again.  DA] Armenia is involved in fighting with Azarbaijan.  It is Armenian DA] soldiers from mainland Armenia that are shelling towns in Azarbaijan.      Well, this is your opinion !       Turkish/ Azeris can BARK all they WANT since the ABOVE is UNTRUE. However,      I am sure YOU GUYS would have NEVER brought up ARMENIA's involvement if      KARABAKHI-Armenians had had HEAVY losses.   DA] You might wish to read more about whether or not it is Azeri aggression DA] only in that region.  It seems to me that the Armenians are better DA] organized, have more success militarily and shell Azeri towns DA] repeatedly.    	Read what ? The New York Times , that is publishing anti-armenian 	articles. Nop, I have my resources. Look, everyone knows how aggressive         Turks/Azeris have been in the past. Armenians ARE NOT gona sit 	around and watch FIRE WORKS by AZERIS taught by TURKS.   DA] It seems to me that the Armenians are better organized, have more success  DA] militarily and shell Azeri towns repeatedly.    	Buch of non-sence CRAP and you know it. Who the hell you think         you are talking to ? Azeris are FIGHTING LOCAL ARMENIANS in  	Nagarno-Karabakh. You tell me who has more MIG's ? Freedom fighters         in Nagarno-Karabakh or Azerbaijan ?  	Again, I will say it for the last time, ARMENIA is NOT involved         in this WAR and you guys WANT to bring this up in order to cover          up the Turkish involvment in the Karabakh. Go ahead , REPEAT as  	much as you want.   DA] I don't wish to get into the Cyprus discussion.  Turkey had the right to DA] intervene, and it did.  Perhaps the intervention was not supposed to DA] last for so long, but the constant refusal of the Greek governments both DA] on the island and in Greece to deal with reality is also to be blamed DA] for the ongoing standoff in the region.    	Not a chance ! You CAN NOT convince me (based on your REASONS)that  	your GOVERNMENT did the RIGHT thing to invade CYPRUS.   DA] Lastly, why is there not a soc.culture.armenia?  I vote yes for it. DA] After all, it is now free.