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In article <1993Apr15.162313.154828@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jsr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOHN STEPHEN RANDOLPH) writes: >In article <1993Apr13.115313.17986@bsu-ucs>, 00mbstultz@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes >: >>I've recently been working on project to determine the greatest >>players at their respective postions.  My sources are Total Baseball, >>James' Historical Abstract, The Ballplayers (biography), word of >>mouth, and my own (biased) opinions... >> >>Feel free to comment, suggest, flame (whatever)...but I tried >>to be as objective as possible, using statistical data not inlcuded >>for time/convience's sake.  (I judged on Rel. BA, Adj OPS, Total Average, >>fielding range/runs, total player rating (Total Baseball), stolen bases >>(for curiosity's sake), TPR/150 g, and years played/MVP. >> >>3B >> 1) Mike Schmidt >> 2) Ed Matthews One "t" in "Eddie Mathews"! >> 3) George Brett >> 4) Wade Boggs >> 5) Ron Santo >> 6) Brooks Robinson >> 7) Frank Baker >> 8) Darrell Evans >> 9) Pie Traynor >>10) Ray Dandridge >> >How can Brooks be # 6?  I think he would at least be ahead of Ron Santo. > Because a small advantage in fielding ability comes nowhere near making up for the large difference in hitting.  Their average seasons, using their combined average 656 (AB + BB) per 162 games:           Years  AB  H  R  2B 3B HR RBI TB  BB  AVG  OBP  SLG  OPS Santo    14.10 577 160 81 26  5 24  94 268 79 .277 .366 .464 .830 Robinson 17.55 607 162 70 27  4 15  77 243 49 .267 .325 .401 .726  Fielding, we have, per 162 games at third,           Years   P    A   DP   E   PCT Santo    13.15  149  348  30  24  .954 Robinson 17.72  152  350  35  15  .971  Even if Robinson's extra 3 putouts, 2 assists, and 5 DPs are taken to mean he was responsible for 10 more outs in the field, that doesn't make up for the extra 28 outs he made at the plate, not to mention the fewer total bases.  The difference of .104 in OPS should be decreased by about .025 to account for Wrigley, but a .079 difference is still considerable. The Thorn & Palmer ratings are             Adjusted      Adjusted    Stolen   Fielding  Total            Production  Batting Runs Base Runs   Runs    Rating Santo         123          284        -14       137      41.7 Robinson      105           52         -5       151      19.8 (26.3) Usual disclaimers about T&P's FR apply, but they really shouldn't be way off the mark in this comparison.  At least it's better than fielding percentage: Carney Lansford has a .966 , 10th best all-time, but -225 FR, dead last of all time.  Also, since this total rating compares players to league average instead of replacement level, Robinson should be awarded an extra 6.5 or so for playing 653 more games.  He had a great career, but I would prefer Santo's plus 4 years of a replacement level 3Bman.  But I would knock Traynor off the list and replace him by Stan Hack. That's a similar story, Hack's far better hitting outweighs Traynor's superior fielding.  Graig Nettles and Buddy Bell would also be better choices (IMHO of course, though some recent net discussion supports this point of view.) > >>CF >> 7) Andre Dawson  Shouldn't that be right field?
In <1r218pINNh4a@gap.caltech.edu> jeff@smoggy.gg.caltech.edu (Jeff Goldsmith) writes:  >In <steph.735029587@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu> steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:  >>Finally, I throw all this into a a formula I call Defensive Contribution, or >>DCON :->.    >You did mean "DefCon," didn't you?  Well, no.  Although I admit that's more exciting than a rat killer. --  Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic
Thomas Theiner (thein@damabus.informatik.rwth-aachen.de) wrote: : Hi there, :  : I'm german and I have been into this MLB stuff since almost one year now. : There are many problems occuring for me. One of them is the ERA statistic for : pitchers. What does it say ??  ERA indicates the average number of earned runs attributed to a pitcher per nine inning game.  Thus, if a pitcher pitched 3 innings and gave up 1 earned run, his 9 inning equivelent perfomance would be 3 earned runs, thus his ERA is 3.00.  To compute the ERA you simply take the number of earned runs divided by the innings pitched and then multiple the result by 9.  	ERA = (ER/IP) * 9  An earned run is run that is given up by the pitcher that is not attributed to a fielding error.  More specifically, if an error occurs that represented the third out, all runs scored after the error are considered UNEARNED runs. Earned runs are also runs scored as a result of players who were left on base when the pitcher exited the game.  Here are some examples:  	If there are two outs in an inning and there are men on base.  If 	an error occurs that represents the third out, all of the runs after 	this error and NOT counted as earned runs.  	If a pitcher issues some base on balls (walks), and leaves the game 	before the inning is completed, he is responsible for the people who 	were left on base.  If the those runners who were left on base score, 	and the score was not a result of an error, those eraned runs are 	attributed to the pitcher who left the game.  I hope this explains things for you.
Sherri Nichols writes > In article <1ql93bINN1s5@postoffice1.psc.edu> boone@psc.edu (Jon Boone)   writes: > >       Spanky is too slow!  If he were quicker, he would still be here. > >But with Slaught and Tom Prince, they didn't want to lose Prince in order > >to bring up that 11th pitcher.  Slaught is about as good as Spanky and > >Prince is coming along nicely! >  > Tom Prince is a 28 year old no-hit catcher.  Think of him as a young Dann > Bilardello.    Or a young Don Bordello...  > I can't begin to fathom why the Pirates have been so afraid of > losing this guy, who's been in AAA most of the last 5 seasons.  The Pirates > released Kirk Gibson last year because Prince was out of options, then > eventually sent Prince down anyway, and he cleared waivers without a peep. > He's another year older, and still can't hit; why do they think he wouldn't > clear waivers now?  Why would they care?  There's a strong possibility that the Bucs have absolutely no other catching   prospects in the minors at this point -- at least nobody ready for any serious   AAA/majors duty.  The main reason they might have stayed with Prince could be   just age, especially if Spanky was creeping toward his mid-30s or something.   All things considered, though, I'd be a lot more comfortable with Spanky behind   the plate than Prince.  Isn't there decent backup backstop out there looking   for work?  > Sherri Nichols > snichols@adobe.com
craige@sad.hp.com (Craig Eid) writes:  >These things should have been done a long time ago, but it took a real  >businessman (ex - Safeway President Peter Magowan) to figure it out. Just  >like he used to tell his checkers, "If the customers don't come back, I don't >need as many checkers". This isn't a knock on Bob Lurie - he was a competent >businessman but he didn't deal much with the general public.  Interesting article, Craig.  It's amazing how hard it is to get baseball teams to understand how to properly market their teams and treat their customers.  No other business could ever get away with the 19th century  attitudes that most current owners display in running their clubs.  I guess the owners look at baseball's high growth rate and ask why it's necessary to bring 20th century business practices into the game, but they don't realize how much more growth the game is capable of and how much they pay in terms of long-term popularity by not doing better by the game and its fans.
Well, after suffering from an intense fit of Minnesota-induced cabin fever, I've decided to road trip to Milwaukee and take in a couple of games this weekend. A couple games at County stadium will be great to relieve tension,  but I thought "Why not go to Wrigley for a game too?"      I see the Cubs are playing the Phillies on Sat (2:05 start, I believe that's Eastern time listed). I figured it would be fun to bounce down to Wrigley for the day game and live it up a little. I'm wondering if anyone (esp. Cubbie fans) have some advice on:     1) If I'm taking 41 (Skokie Hwy) south until it runs into 94, what's the       best way to get to Wrigley? I'm planning on getting there an hour or        two early and paying through the nose for parking to keep things easy.     2) Is it probable that I'll be able to walk up and get bleacher seats (2 or      3) on game day? I figure since it's early in the year, Ryno's out and       the weather isn't great I should be able to get tickets. If not, what's       the best way to get advance tickets; can I call the Cubs' ticket office      directly and pick up tickets at the will call window?      3) Any advice on where to eat before or after the game?     4) Do they allow inflatable I-luv-ewe dolls (present from Lundy) into the       bleachers? :-)
In article <1993Apr21.120525.1@tesla.njit.edu> drm6640@tesla.njit.edu   writes: > Overall (career) > 1.	Don Mattingly > 2.	Don Mattingly > 3.	Don Mattingly > 4.	Don Mattingly > 5.	Don Mattingly > 6.	Don Mattingly > 7.	Don Mattingly > 8.	Don Mattingly > 9.	Don Mattingly > 10.	Don Mattingly > 11.	Don Mattingly > ..
There was an article on Jewish major leaguers in a recent issue of "Elysian  Fields", what used to be the "Minnesota Review of Baseball".  As I recall,  it had an amazing amount of research, with a long list of players and a  large bibliography.
Was going over some videos last night.....  Studying 1986 and 1992 videotapes of Jose Canseco proved to be very interesting.  And enlightening.  Here's my analysis of Jose Canseco, circa Sep '92, and Jose Canseco, circa June 1986.  1.  He's bulked up too much.  Period.  He needs to LOSE about 20 pounds,     not gain more bulk.  2.  His bat speed has absolutely VANISHED.  Conservatively, I'd say he's     lost 4%-7% of his bat speed, and that's a HUGE amount of speed.  3.  That open stance is KILLING him.   Note that he acts sort of like     Brian Downing - way open to start, then closes up as ball is     released.  Downing could do this without significant head movement -     Canseco can't.  Also, note that Canseco doesn't always close his     stance the same way - sometimes, his hips are open, sometimes,     they're fully closed.  Without a good starting point, it's hard     to make adjustments in your swing.  What would I do, if I were Jose?  Aside from salting away a large sum of a cash that I could never touch, so that I'd never have to work again, I'd restructure my entire swing.  First, minimize movement before the swing.  Close and widen the stance, and severely cut down the stride I take on my swing.  Hopefully, this will cut down on the time I need to swing, and will allow me to move the bathead more freely.  Second, drop 20 pounds.  Cut out the weight work.  Third, relax the wrists.  Will cost some power, but until I can find my 1988 stroke, concentrate on keeping the back shoulder up, rolling the wrists through the strike zone, and hit line drives.  His strength  is more than enough so that some of those line drives will get out of the park.  If Canseco's open stance and resulting bad habits are a result of his back problems, he'll be out of baseball in three years.  If not, he could still hit 600+ HR.
In Article: 106628 of rec.sport.baseball, <HEALEY@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> (Roger Healey)  wrote >>  >> The original poster wanted to know how the Big Cat looked. I was also at >> the Saturday game in Montreal (Apr 17) that Rockies won 9-1. I haven't >> paid much attention to Gallarraga since he left the Expos but his stance >> seemed to be MUCH different. He stands more erect and very open, with his >> left foot pointing to 3rd base. I'm wondering if this is a recent change >> in stance for him? Andres had one glaring weakness as a hitter. He could >> always be fooled by a curve ball low and away. If this is indeed a new >> stance for him, maybe he is not being fooled as easily?  Yes, the stance is new.  Don Baylor was his batting coach at St. Louis last year, and now, as his manager, is continuing to work with him.  Maybe Andres has a "weak" left eye and the open stance gives him a better look at the ball.  Or maybe it is simply improving his mechanics - I dunno.  But the change seems to have enabled him to hit the ball as well as 5 years ago.  His selectivity has not changed.
In <1993Apr23.150058.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> kwolfer@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:  > How about Matt Nokes 2 run single against Ron Darling.  Was that a hit or what?   > While watching the game yesterday they flashed up something regarding The > Boss' talking about Mark Connor as bullpen coach.  He said something like it's > Mark Connor's fault that the bullpen is so horrible!!  Here we go again!!  > George sticking his non-baseball nose in the baseball business.  Shut up > George, just spend the money, get the players and leave Buck and the coaches > and players alone.
Hi all you Ryno fans (and those interested...) Todays Chicago Tribune had this written in it today in regards to Ryne Sandberg...  "Ryne Sandberg is ahead of schedule in his recovery from a broken left hand and could be back in the lineup by May 1, manager Jim Lefebvre said Friday. Doctors cleared Sandberg to swing a padded bat at a ball in his  gloved hand. '' I'm not surprised his rehabilitation has been moved up,'' said Lefebvre.  '' He's a fast healer, and he doesn't like being on the  disabled list.  He's been running since he was hurt [March 5] and is in the best shape of his life.  May 1 is his target date for getting back in the lineup."  Hold on to your hats Cub fans...more later as information presents itself.
In article <1993Apr15.132741.11322@scott.skidmore.edu> jrogoff@scott.skidmore.edu (jay rogoff) writes: >While we're on the multipurpose subject, let's not forget Shea, which >was designed to accommodate both the Mets & Jets.  It was the first >stadium (I think) to have the box seats on rollers so they could be >oriented at right angles for baseball & in parallel for football.  Minor point:  Shea Stadium was designed as a multi-purpose stadium but not with the Jets in mind as the tennant.  The New York Football Giants had moved to Yankee Stadium (from the Polo Grounds) in 1958 and was having problem with stadium management (the City did not own Yankee Stadium until 1972).  The idea was to get the Giants to move into Shea. When a deal was worked out between the Giants and the Yankees the new AFL franchise, the New York Titans, approached the City about using the new stadium.  The Titans were playing in Downing Stadium (where the Cosmos played soccer in the 70s).  Because Shea Stadium was tied into the World's Fair anyway, the city thought it would be a novel idea to promote the new franchise and the World's Fair (like they were doing with the Mets).  So the deal was worked out.  >Of course, with the Jets gone to Jersey (and a truly good football >stadium), the Mets are saddled with a multipurpose stadium where, >because it's circular, the seats are almost always too far from the >action.  The Mets announcers--Kiner & Murphy in particular--have >always hyped it as "beautiful Shea >Stadium," a tipoff to how unbeautiful it truly is.  I'm under the impression that when Murph says it, he means it!  As a regular goer to Shea, it is not a bad place since they've cleaned and renovated the place.  Remember, this is its 30th Year!
In <30MAR93.02086551.0010@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU> PFAN <PFAN@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU> writes:  >For those of you who know who Bernie Brewer is, he's back.  The >team mascot, if you will, was given his walking papers a few years >ago, but the fans voted him back last season and he will be perched >in the his familiar home in the outfield and will again slide down >into a barrel of beer when home runs are hit.  That is great to hear I just may have to take a raod trip to Milwakee this year and see that again.  Last time I saw Bernie Brewer was at the age of 10 and I am now 21 thanks for this post.  >One final note, Bill Spiers is leading the Brewers with 13 RBI's in >exhibition play.  Looks like he's bouncing back nicely from back >problems.  Good to Bill is getting better form the limited coverage we get here in Iowa I know that this will be a great season for the BREW CREW!!
Can anyone mail me the address of Houston's Mailing List? Thanks in advance.  J. Scott Smithers smithers@dcseq.uscga.edu
How about Matt Nokes 2 run single against Ron Darling.  Was that a hit or what?   While watching the game yesterday they flashed up something regarding The Boss' talking about Mark Connor as bullpen coach.  He said something like it's Mark Connor's fault that the bullpen is so horrible!!  Here we go again!!  George sticking his non-baseball nose in the baseball business.  Shut up George, just spend the money, get the players and leave Buck and the coaches and players alone.
In article 120399@netnews.upenn.edu, sepinwal@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Alan Sepinwall) writes: > >And now, the not so pleasant surprises: > >	2)Tartabull. The book on Tartabull was, keep him healthy and >	  he'll produce. Well, he hasn't done too much so far. Sure. he's >	  hit a few homers, but those were all solo shots, and he hasn't >	  gotten any of the "big" RBIs that your cleanup man is supposed >	  to give you. Then again, he had a slow start last year (once he >	  got off the DL, that is) and turned into a one-man wrecking crew >See you in the Series! > >-Alan   Let's see... April 15th... less than 30 at bats.... and you claim that he  hasn't done too much so far!  Cut this guy some slack. Danny will produce this year. It's scary to think just how much he'll produce if he were to stay healthy all year.  The Yanks have a lot going for them this year: good starting rotation, good bullpen, good defense and a good lineup. Also, I like Buck Showalter. Frank Howard on 1st is also a good move. Everything sounds good so far.   If the Yanks stay healthy, they have a good chance at winning the pennant. This  is the most fun I've had watching the Yanks since "78!
I want All-Star Tickets does anyone know how I can get some?  Are they for public sale or are they sold out?  Or do you just have to work for a company with some  Anyway any answers would be appreciated.  Please E-mail me.
In article <93105.124117RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes: } In article <1993Apr14.175545.3528@alleg.edu>, millits@yankee.org (Sam } Millitello) says: }  } i'm telling you, sam, three l's.  call up mom and ask. }  } bob vesterman. }  yeah, and in case even that isn't enough to prompt boy genius "Sam" to pick up a paper and see how "his" name is spelled, here's another hint: the single "L" comes between the two "I"s...
Some time back in this newsgroup, I seem to recall a thread about predicting the runs a given lineup of 9 batters could be expected to score given the appropriate statistical alphabet soup for these hitters (OBP, SLG, AVG, bat length, hat size, day-of-the-week, weather conditions, etc.).  :-)  Anyway, was I dreaming or is there some such animal?  My apologies if this has been covered recently, I probably get to read 10% of the articles posted here.  No time.    Many thanks in advance,  scotty   ----------------------------------------------------------------------------  M. Scott Walsh                                     scottwa@pogo.wv.tek.com  Tektronix, Inc.   Graphics Printing & Imaging Products IBD   (503)685-3622
In article <1qkkodINN5f5@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> pablo@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu   (Pablo A Iglesias) writes: > In article <15APR93.14691229.0062@lafibm.lafayette.edu>   VB30@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes: >  > Hank Greenberg would have to be the most famous, because his Jewish > faith actually affected his play. (missing late season or was it world > series games because of Yom Kippur) >
Mike Schmidt's 500th:  Not only a milestone, but also a 9th inning game- winner.                            -John
Just a little something I found while reading the Village Voice, which is not noted for its sports coverage, but occasionally the print some interesting features.  This year, the predictions/team analyses for the 1993 season were presented in the form of Bob Dylan lyrics.  I don't have the article in front of me, so I'll only give the memorable ones here that I remember and know the melody to.  I could dig up more if there is interest.  Yankess (to the tune of "Subterranean Homesick Blues")  Howe is in the basement, mixing up the medicine. George is on the pavement thinking 'bout the government. Wade Boggs in a trench coat, bat out, paid off, Says he's got a bad back, wants to get it laid off. Look out kids, it's somethin' you did. Don't know when, but it's Columbus again.  Mets (to the tune of "Like a Rolling Stone")  Once upon a time you played so fine you threw away Dykstra before his prime, didn't you? People said "Beware Cone, he's bound to roam" But you thought they were just kidding you. You used to laugh about,  The Strawberry that was headin' out. But now you don't talk so loud, Now you don't seem so proud, About having to shop Vince Coleman for your next deal....  Phillies (to the tune of "Highway 61")  Well Daulton and Dykstra should have some fun, Just keep them off of Highway 61!  Giants (to the tune of "The Ballad of Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter")
In article <1993Apr16.173252.7393@asd.com>, scott@asd.com (Scott Barman) says: > >Wasn't Ron Bloomberg, the former Yankee who got the first base hit >by a Designated Hitter, Jewish??  i have no idea, nor do i care.  however, i'd like to point out that blomberg got the first plate appearance by a designated hitter, and the first walk by a designated hitter.  i am not sure, but i do not think that he also got the first hit by a designated hitter.
last night bill veeck cam to me in my dreams and this is what he said:  cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs scuk cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs cuck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck  oh yeah, he aqlso added that harry is a drunken idiot who shoulda stayed in st louis where his heart is, but also added that fair weathered fans all like to be together.  i guess this is the reason harry is now a cub fan, bud man.  note he never really left st, louis.  jim walker
In article <mssC5K47z.Fur@netcom.com> mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) writes: > > >Polish and Jewish are *not* mutually exclusive.   I didn't mean to offend or anything, I'm just quoting Stanky himself on the subject. I remember one time last year he was being interviewed by ESPN, and the interviewer (can't remember who), asked Stanky if he was Jewish because he (the interviewer) was Jewish and wanted to see more Jewish ballplayers. To which Stanky replied, "I'm Polish, not Jewish."  So maybe that wasn't the most PC thing for Stanky to say, and maybe I was a little naive when I posted it. I think we should just devote this subject to finding actual Jewish ballplayers (I myself am Jewish and the only ones I ever knew until now were Koufax, Greenberg, and Blomberg).
Has anyone heard anything about Mel Hall this season?  I'd heard he wasn't with the Yankees any more.  What happened to him?  				Doug Dolven
I'll tell youm all one thing. Steve howe and FARR are much better then the   worst pitcher in yankee Pitching ___________________