In article <noringC5snsx.KMo@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes: >>There is no convincing evidence that such a disease exists. >There's a lot of evidence, it just hasn't been adequately gathered and >published in a way that will convince the die-hard melancholic skeptics >who quiver everytime the word 'anecdote' or 'empirical' is used.  Snort.  Ah, there go my sinuses again.  >For example, Dr. Ivker, who wrote the book "Sinus Survival", always gives,  Oh, wow.  A classic textbook.  Hey, they laughed at Einstein, too!  >before any other treatment, a systemic anti-fungal (such as Nizoral) to his >new patients IF they've been on braod-spectrum anti-biotics 4 or more times >in the last two years.  He's kept a record of the results, and for over  >2000 patients found that over 90% of his patients get significant relief >of allergic/sinus symptoms.  Of course, this is only the beginning for his >program.  Yeah, I'll bet.  Tomorrow, the world.  Listen, uncontrolled studies like this are worthless.  >In my case, as I reported a few weeks ago, I was developing the classic >symptoms outlined in 'The Yeast Connection' (I agree it is a poorly  >written book):  e.g., extreme sensitivity to plastics, vapors, etc. which >I never had before (started in November).  Within one week of full dosage >of Sporanox, the sensitivity to chemicals has fully disappeared - I can >now sit on my couch at home without dying after two minutes.  I'm also >*greatly* improved in other areas as well.  I'm sure you are.  You sound like the typical hysteric/hypochondriac who responds to "miracle cures."  >Of course, I have allergy symptoms, etc.  I am especially allergic to >molds, yeasts, etc.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that >if one has excessive colonization of yeast in the body, and you have a >natural allergy to yeasts, that a threshold would be reached where you >would have perceptible symptoms.  Yeah, "it makes sense to me", so of course it should be taken seriously. Snort.  >Also, yeast do produce toxins of various >sorts, and again, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that >such toxins can cause problems in some people.  Yeah, "it sounds reasonable to me".  >Of course, the $60,000 >question is whether a person who is immune compromised (as tests showed I was >from over 5 years of antibiotics, nutritionally-deficiencies because of the >stress of infections and allergies, etc.),  Oh, really?  _What_ tests?  Immune-compromised, my ass. More like credulous malingerer.  This is a psychiatric syndrome.  >can develop excessive yeast >colonization somewhere in the body.  It is a tough question to answer since >testing for excessive yeast colonization is not easy.  One almost has to >take an empirical approach to diagnosis.  Fortunately, Sporanox is relatively >safe unlike past anti-fungals (still have to be careful, however) so there's >no reason any longer to withhold Sporanox treatment for empirical reasons.  You know, it's a shame that a drug like itraconazole is being misused in this way.  It's ridiculously expensive, and potentially toxic. The trouble is that it isn't toxic enough, so it gets abused by quacks.  >BTW, some would say to try Nystatin.  Unfortunately, most yeast grows hyphae >too deep into tissue for Nystatin to have any permanent affect.  You'll find >a lot of people who are on Nystatin all the time.  The only good thing about nystatin is that it's (relatively) cheap and when taken orally, non-toxic.  But oral nystatin is without any systemic effect, so unless it were given IV, it would be without any effect on your sinuses.  I wish these quacks would first use IV nystatin or amphotericin B on people like you.  That would solve the "yeast" problem once and for all.  >In summary, I appreciate all of the attempts by those who desire to keep >medicine on the right road.  But methinks that some who hold too firmly >to the party line are academics who haven't been in the trenches long enough >actually treating patients.  If anybody, doctors included, said to me to my >face that there is no evidence of the 'yeast connection', I cannot guarantee >their safety.  For their incompetence, ripping off their lips is justified as >far as I am concerned.  Perhaps a little Haldol would go a long way towards ameliorating your symptoms.  Are you paying for this treatment out of your own pocket?  I'd hate to think my insurance premiums are going towards this.