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Mark Monninger (markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com) wrote: : While not exactly a service incident, I had a similar experience recently   : when I bought a new truck. : I had picked out the vehicle I wanted and after a little haggling we   : agreed on a price. I wrote them a check for the down payment plus tax : and license and told them I'd be back that evening to pick up the truck.   : When I returned, I had to wait about an hour before the finance guy could   : get to me. When I finally got in there, everything went smoothly until he   : started adding up the numbers. He then discovered that they had   : miscalculated the tax & license by about $150. He then said he needed   : another $150 from me. I said we had already agreed on a price and it was   : their problem, I wasn't giving them any more money. The finance guy then    A similar thing happend to me a year ago.  I bought a used Ford Bronco (which has since been stolen...  :(  )  and few weeks after I paid and took delivery, they sent a letter telling me they goofed and  miscalculated the license renewal by $300 and that I need to send in a check to "avoid further delay" in the processing of my registration. The thing is, I had already received the pink slip from the DMV, so I ignored it.  I received another letter and then the phone calls started coming.  First from the finance guy and then from the general manager, both hounding me for the extra money.  They left me alone once I told them I already had the paperwork and pointed out the clause in the contract that stated that the final price was just that: FINAL. Afterall, they wouldn't budge if I had told them I wanted another $300 off after the deal had been signed, right?  I told them not  to call again and that I would not do business with them in the future. They didn't seem to have a problem with that.  This, after all, was a used Ford at a Toyota dealership.  I had a much better experience buying a new Pathfinder about a month ago.  It certainly pays to buy a car on the last Sunday of the month. It was even raining too, so they had done very little business that  weekend and were really willing to deal.  I kept telling them I would think about it, and they kept dropping the price.  Got a very good deal and so far have been very please with the service.
In a previous article, smith@ctron.com (Lawrence C Smith) says:  >In article <C5v6MD.Kyp@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mliggett@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (matthew liggett) writes: > >>>>V16 - must be one somewhere. > >>>Believe Bugatti's coming(has) out  one.  Something like 4 turbos >>>and mucho macho HP.  One cool price too, as i heard.  At any rate, >>>the point is, i'm pretty sure there is, indeed, one in production... >>>tho rather limited.. > >>This is _NO_ Bugatti.  It's labeled a Bugatti but has nothing to do with  >>the Bugatti's of yore, from what I understand.  Just some ppl wanting to >>build a silly supercar and use that name to sell it. > >Drew may be thinking of the Cizeta Morodor v16t, but that hasn't reached >production, at least not yet.  As for the Bugatti, well, I have to agree >with Matt, it ain't the top dog, it ain't sexy and svelt-looking, and it >ain't a real Bugatti.  In fact, it looks like it's in tight competition >with the Consulier for the most butt-ugly car of the decade award.  It isn't that bad.  At least the Bugatti EB110 has compound curves compared to the slab sides on the Consulier.  And the Bugatti has a quad turbo V-12 (thing of it as 4 three cylinder turbo engines tied together).  Also Ettore Bugatti's nephew is on the board of directors and had a hand in the development.  So that's about as much Bugatti as you are likely to get in today's world.  Much like Enzo Ferrari's illegitamate son being allowed to take over part of Ferrari as well...   >I don't know of any cars with v4, but there are a number of motorcycles >with them - but I couldn't tell you which ones, all motorcycles look alike >to me.   :D  That's funny.  I have motorcylclist friends who say the same about `cages'.  :-)  Most GP 500cc motorcycles are V-4s, and the VF line of Hondas were all V-4s (from the VF-400F through the VF-1000F, including the RC30 race bike and the present VFR-750F).  It should be noted that Lancia built a V-4 in recent history in the Fulvia HF, a very pretty Italian coupe.
In article <1qlg02$iu6@uniwa.uwa.oz.au> scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) writes: >Have you driven a TURBO converted >MX5?  Now they are starting to perform!  I've often thought a Mazda rotary >would go well in the XM5 too....anyone done it?  no, but somebody's dropped a ford 302 V-8 into the miata, somewhat reminiscent of the shelby cobra.  the car's obviously not as nimble as before, but it's supposed to have a near 50/50 weight distribution and handle very well.  i'd sure love to drive one.
In <1993Apr19.193417.18601@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> dunnjj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (DUNN  JONATHAN JAMES) writes:  >uznerk@mcl.ucsb.edu (Andrew Krenz) writes:  >>I personally like the looks of the Impala SS.  The Caprice was definately  >>weird looking until this year when they made the rear wheel openings look  >>more like a normal car, but the Impala impresses me.  GM can't exactly shove >>the LT1 in everything they make, you know, only the bigger stuff.  I'd like >>to see it next in a 1500 series pickup.  That would be a hot setup. >                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  >What about in a full size Blazer as well?  Would this engine have the gobs >of torque necessary for off-roading?  If so, this would be even better than >the Syclone.  Well, an LT1 Blazer wouldn't come close to a GMC Typhoon in speed, I think its too heavy.  As it is right now, the normal 210HP 5.7 engine has plenty of  power for a full size Blazer.  Of course, I'm not saying GM shouldn't put the LT1 in it :).  It seems like they have a real winner with that engine.  Why spend so much more money into getting a 32 valve DOHC V8 when you can take  an LT1?  It even seems to get pretty good gas MPG (for a 5.7, that is.)   [talking about Impala SS] >Will this be in the 4-door Caprice body?  I'm just curious if Chevy is >trying to resurrect their 2-door muscle cars, or to compete with the European >"super sedans."  Yeah, it's a flat black, lowered 4 door Caprice riding on 17" aluminum rims and Eagle GS-C tires.  The rest of the car is basically a Caprice LTZ (read:  plush police package) with 300 horsepower.  I heard that Chevy is resurrecting the Monte Carlo but that's going to get  their 3.4 DOHC V6 and not the LT1.  >>Jon Dunn< -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Krenz -- uznerk@mcl.ucsb.edu | krenz@engrhub.ucsb.edu
Rob Reilly:  >whips and their tempers. Initially, all cars were built with the driver's >controls on the right because that's the way people drove buggies, so the  This is just not so - many of the earliest cars had their steering controls in the center of the vehicle, and there is no discernible pattern of left- or right-hand steering controls until a few years into the 20th century, when, in America at least, left-hand wheels became the pattern. The mule team (or horses, I imagine) explanation, however, seems to have some merit.  Dan dh3q@andrew.cmu.edu Carnegie Mellon University Applied History
In article <1993Apr16.000601.14223@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> rkim@eecg.toronto.edu (Ryan Kim) writes: > >Hi, maybe someone can help me here... >I am looking to buy this 1990 Nissan Maxima GXE for CDN$14000 right now.  So its an automatic? Don't know if US spec=CDN spec. for Maximas.  >The car has 96000 km (or about 60000 miles) on it. >A typical mileage for 1990 cars seem to be about 70000 km (or about 43K mi). >The seller just informed me that when he brought the car in for certification >he was told that the front break pads and the exhausts had to be replaced >to meet the legal standards.  (He said he will replace the components before >selling the car to me.) > >Being copmletely ignorant to the technical stuff on cars, I don't know >what this could mean... >Is 96K km about the time typical for replacing the above mentioned items? >Or is this an indication that the car was abused?  If it is the first set of brake pads on front, then this is fine. My car eats a set every 15k miles or so. The fact that he is replacing the muffler too is also ok.  >Would other things break down or have to be replaced soon?  The mileage is fairly low - but typical fwd stuff is CV joints. Check the maintenance records with the manufacturers requirements for valve adjustments, timing belt changes and so on.  The 60k mile service is often expensive, so make sure he has done everything.   >The seller told me that he used the car on the highway a lot, but, >I don't know how to verify this...  I've seen the paint chipped away >in tiny dots in the front edge of the hood, though. > Well, this is one of the commonly cited methods for identifying a car with highway miles.  Might check the gas pedal wear too. Ask him how many sets of tires he has been through. A highway car might have squeezed by on 2 sets, a hard driven car 6-10 sets.   >Although the Maxima is an excellent car and the car is very clean and >well kept, it's currently out of warranty >(a similarly priced '90 Accord with 70K km will have 2 years or 30K km >worth of warranty left) and I don't want to worry about paying for >any repair bills...  Well, the Maxima should be pretty reliable - but if its out of warranty you should get it checked out by someone knowledgeable first. Stuff for Japanese cars can be expensive.  >But, I also need a car for 5 people...   > >When will the new Maxima come out, by the way?  1995 model year, I believe.  > >I would very much appreciate your input in this. >Please reply by e-mail (preferred) or post in this newsgroup.
From article <1r8uckINNcmf@gap.caltech.edu>, by wen-king@cs.caltech.edu (Wen-King Su): > In article <1r7cr2INNvar@sumax.seattleu.edu> smorris@sumax.seattleu.edu (Steven A. Morris) writes: >>The Villager-Quest seem like the best of the Cravan/Voyager copies to > <come along since the Mazda MPV.  The NISSAN MAXIMA engine paired with >>the MAXIMA 4 speed Auto Trans should be an excellent drive train, and > <the rest of the vehicle seems well engineered.  Only the price is >>controversial. >  > Hmm.  The last time I checked, Villager/Quest does not have a Maxima > engine, and is very much under powered for its weight.  --Yes, it does come with the Maxima GXE engine mated to the Maxima SE   transmission.  And it has decent power for a minivan also.      Check again.  --Aamir Qazi --
From article <1qkkl5INNbvo@hp-col.col.hp.com>, by theckel@col.hp.com (Tim Heckel): > For those that are interested I got my fully optioned (Air, ABS, > sunroof) '92 SE-R in September 1991 for $13,555 in Sacramento, CA. It > was one of the 1st '92s sold, few of the dealers had any, no local > dealer had an ABS equipped SE-R.  I went straight to the fleet manager > at the dealership I liked, told him what I wanted, made him aware that I > knew what his price should be.  He called me back with exactly what I > wanted from a dealer 125mi away, I took delivery the next day.   --When I was selling Nissans last summer, I sold a '92 SE-R in early August   when its supply was getting quite scarce.  The car was black with ABS,    Value Option Pkg, and power moonroof.  I sold it for $12,900 plus tax.   Naturally, my manager didn't really care to sell one of the most desirable   SE-R's for virtually no profit (to the best of my knowledge).....  --Aamir Qazi  --
First off, the correct spelling of Nissan's luxury automobile division is "Infiniti" not "Infinity."  I would also like to clear up the question of what kind of engines power Lexus and Infiniti automobiles, since a person had remarked in earlier posts that most Lexus and Infiniti models had V6 engines, while at the same time saying that several of each manufacturer used V8 engines.  Lexus:   LS400- V8   GS300- V6   ES300- V6   SC400- V8   SC300- V6  Infiniti:   Q45- V8   J30- V6   G20- inline 4 (I must admit that I cannot remeber for sure here)  I hope this helps.
In article <1993Apr22.041452.27262@eecs.nwu.edu> andrew@eecs.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim) writes: >... >What about the rice import issue?  Of course, it is not closed up >like a shell,  but how open is it compared to to US?   Japan is _much_ more open than Korea.  Yes.  A Pontiac Grand Am suffers a factor of _2_ increase in price when it is exported to Japan.  However, a Dodge vehicle (the one that Congressman Gephardt mentioned) suffers a factor of _4_ increase in price when it is exported to Korea. A Ford Taurus suffers the same problem.  A Honda Accord costs--I am not making this up--$48,000 in Korea.  Just how many people would want to buy a Honda Accord for $48,000?  Solution:  All ships carrying Korean-made vehicles should be returned            to Seoul.  Pronto.  Until as such time as Korea decides            that it wants to abide by the rules of free and fair trade            with the USA and Japan.
Don't have a list of what's been said before, so hopefully not repeating.  How about horizontally mounted oil filters (like on my Ford) that, no matter how hard you try, will spill out their half quart on the bottom of the car when you change them?
In article <24553@drutx.ATT.COM> klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL) writes: >In article <C5srIB.6AH@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison) writes: >|  >| I normally have an unloaded Colt Delta in my glove box with a loaded >| magazine handy (which is perfectly legal in Oklahoma). For those >| times that I'm travelling inter-state, I keep an unloaded  >| S&W .44 Magnum revolver in the glove box, with a speed-loader >|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >| in my pocket (which is legal everywhere, under Federal law, Illinois >| State Police be hanged). > >Carrying a pistol, loaded or unloaded, in the glove compartment, is >considered carrying a concealed weapon in Colorado and is illegal without >a concealed weapons permit.  Unless the law has been changed recently, >carrying a weapon openly is legal in Colorado but concealing it is illegal. >I read a newspaper account last year where police stopped a car on a >traffic infraction and observed a .357 magnum revolver sitting on the >seat.  The driver could not be cited for possessing or carrying the weapon >because it was not concealed.  The article stated that if the gun had >been discovered in the glove box, it would have been considered a crime.  Carrying in the glove box is not covered...I'm not sure what I was  thinking there. It _is_ legal in Oklahoma.   On inter-state travel, as long as it is legal for you to own at your point of origination and destination, the gun is carried in a locked compartment/box (glove box specifically excluded) separate from the ammo, it is legal under Title 19, Chapter 44, Section 94(9? I forget, and my copy of the regs is at home) of the US Code. This, unfortunately, has not prevented the theft by state troopers of a certain state (which shall remain nameless to protect the hopelessly stupid) under that state's law.  Gee, and I thought Federal Law overrode state law...  				James
In article <1993Apr5.175719.7892@telxon.mis.telxon.com> joes@telxon.mis.telxon.com (Joe Staudt) writes: >In article <1piip4$bo6@agate.berkeley.edu> hubertc@whistle.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Hung-Hsien (Hubert) Chang) writes: >> >>Hi! being new to a car owner, I would pretty much like to know more about  >>some basics of maintaining the cars. >> >>I know the following: >> >>1. Oil has to be changed every 3000 miles. > >Change the oil filter, too. > >>2. Check tires before going on the high way. And fill up the tank. > >Make that monthly, or more often if you know one or more of your >tires has a slow leak.  If the tire has a leak you should fix it.   > >>What others? Thank you. > > >4. Check ALL fluids regularly (every month?), check the oil every time you >   fill up with gas.  Doesn't work too well if the engine is hot, its more accurate to check the oil when the engine is cool, i.e. not when you are at a gas station.
In article <1pima2INN180@gap.caltech.edu>, wen-king@cs.caltech.edu (Wen-King Su) writes: > This has me thinking.  Is there a biological reason why women can't put > their keys in their pants pockets like men do?  I have two pockets on the > back of each of my pants.  I put my keys in one and wallent in another. > Many of the pockets even have a botton on them so I can close them securely. > Everything is that much simpler for me.  Why can't women do the same? > Is is biological (ie, not enough room for a bigger bottom plus keys and > a wallet) or is it the way they are raised by the parents?   Oh PULLEEZE!  It's not biology at all, it's clothing design.  Women's clothing is generally designed to be as non-functional as possible.  It's only been in the last five years or so that you could buy women's pants with pockets deep enough to carry anything in.  Previously, deep pockets were virtually unknown in women's clothing.  Skirts generally have better pockets now, too.  Dresses, espcially fancy dresses, are still pretty hopeless.  I often hand my driver's license over to my husband if we're dressed up to go out somewhere, so I don't have to be encumbered by a purse.  If women consistently bought functional clothing, and boycotted the manufacturers who refuse to make functional women's clothing, I think manufacturers would tend to bow to market pressures.  There's an interesting chapter in Susan Faludi's Backlash that described what happened the LAST time clothing manufacturers ignored the need for functional women's clothing.  The manufactuing industry lost millions.  From a woman who would rather buy men's clothing WITH decent pockets and long legs and high waists than women's clothing without....
In article <1993Apr14.143750.120204@marshall.wvnet.edu> edf003@marshall.wvnet.edu writes: >Hi, I'm interested in getting the list for license plate numbers.  If anyone >has a listing I'd appreciate getting a copy of it.  Thanks!  You can go to the DMV and ask for their listing.  Although I don't know where you may actually buy a copy, you can use theirs for your perusal.  In California, the listing of personalized license plates run 3 volumes, each about 1.5" thick.  I hope this is what you're asking for.   Ken
an excellent automatic can be found in the subaru legacy.  it switches to "sport" mode when the electronics figure it,  not when the driver sets the switch.. which is the proper way to do it, IMO.  so what does "sport" mode entail?  several things:  1) revving to red line (or to the rev limiter in the case of the legacy)  2) delayed upshifts.  (i.e. if you lift off briefly, it will remain in the 	low gear.  this is handy if you are charging through corners and 	would like to do without the distraction of upshifts when there's 	another curve approaching)  3) part throttle downshifts, based on the *speed* at which the pedal is 	depressed, rather than the *position* of the pedal.  modern 	electronics can measure this very easily and switch to sport mode. 	this is wonderful if you want to charge through a green light about 	to turn red.  my audi senses this very well and can downshift on as 	little as half throttle if my right foot is fast enough.  also, i think that a smart automatic can deliver better gas mileage than a dumb driver with a stick, all else being equal.. remember that the idea of a stick being more economical than an automatic makes a big assumption that the driver is smart enough to know what gear to use for each situation.. how many times have you ridden with an inattentive driver cruising on the highway at 55/65 in 4th gear (of a 5 speed)?    how many % of people who drive manuals *really* know what the best gear to use is for every conceivable situation?  i'm sure there will be some who know, but i suspect that a chip controlled automatic with all possible scenario/ratio combinations stored in ROM is likely to do better.  i can also say that all my previous assumptions were proved wrong after i got a car with instantaneous mpg readout... high gear, low revs and wide open throttle is more economical than low gear, high revs and small throttle opening.  the explanation is quite simple if one sits down to think about it, but not that obvious at first sight.
callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison) writes: : >>  : >I'm not going to argue the issue of carrying weapons, but I would ask you if  : >you would have thought seriously about shooting a kid for setting off your : >alarm?  I can think of worse things in the world.  Glad you got out of there : >before they did anything to give you a reason to fire your gun. :  I think people have a right to kill to defend their property. Why not? Be honest: do you really care more about scum than about your  car?
In article <1qk7t5$dg@armory.centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes: >ejv2j@Virginia.EDU ("Erik Velapoldi") writes: >>What the hell is happening to this great country of ours?  I >>can see boyhood pranks of peeing off of bridges and such, but >>20 pound rocks??!  Has our society really stooped this low?? > >You make it sound like this behavior is new.  It isn't.  A lot of >pedestrian bridges have fencing that curls up over the sidewalk to >make this kind of think a lot harder to do. > >I don't understand the mentality myself, but then again I couldn't >figure out MOVE! (I'm glad they bombed 'em) or the Waco Wackos either.             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  I know that this isn't the group for it, but since you brought it up, does anyone have any idea why they haven't "bombed" the Waco cult?      Just curious.   > >(Newsgroup list trimmed significantly) > >jim frost >jimf@centerline.com                                                    .                                                    /                 Larry                            __/    _______/_                  keys@csmes.ncsl.nist.gov       /                  \                                          _____     __     _____    \------- ===             ----------- / ____/   /  /   /__  __/              \          /     ___    /  / ___   /  /      / /    ____          |         |    /      \/ /__ /  | /  /__  __/ /__ /       \      /          /___         \_______/ /_____/ /______/            ====OO             \       /                           \       /                          -            1990 2.0 16v           -          ---------------- FAHRVERGNUGEN FOREVER! --------------------                         The fact that I need to explain it to you indicates             that you probably wouldn't understand anyway!
Hello World, 	     just bought a new Stealth two weeks ago. Got a grad student   rebate. Someone told me that there's another $400 reabet for 1st time  Chrysler buyer. True ? If yes can I still get it or am I too late ?