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In article <122521@netnews.upenn.edu>, kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller) writes: >>>>I prefer >>>to watch hockey than seeing shots of Felix Potvin slashing and spearing Dino >>>Ciccerelli standing in front of the net.  HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO STAND IN >>>FRONT OF THE NET, JUST NOT IN THE CREASE! >  > Yes, he does.  BUT, the goalie sure as hell doesn't want him there!  When > I played roller hockey (boy do I miss those days) as a goalie, I would > scream at my defense to clear guys out of the slot.  I don't care if he's > in the crease or not, get him the hell away from me so I can see the ball! > (Yes, roller hockey, remember)  And if there was nobody around to clear > the slot, then I'd do it myself by pushing the offending player--*hard*.  > I *hate* people in my way when I'm the goalie, and I am sure Felix does > too.  I should say that I didn't see the incident, so if Potvin really > swung the stick big time, then that's not right, but he can move people > out of the way.  He's a player on the ice too, you know.  :-) >  > -- >     Keith Keller				LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!! > 	kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu		IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!! >      In this corner				LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!! >      Weighing in at almost every weight imaginable . . .  >      Life, and all that surrounds it.		     -- Blues Traveler, 1993 I have to agree wholeheartedly with this view.  I don't like to see stickwork, but you have to clear players away from in front.  My personal favorite move (I'm a goalie too) is to give the offeding player a good whack on the back of their skates when the ref isn't looking.  Makes 'em go down like a ton of bricks, but doesn't cause injuries unless they don't know how to fall (I'm  talking about hitting the blades here, not the foot).  It also makes the  player you hit and anyone who sees really mad and apt to take a stupid retaliation penalty.  Unfortunately, it also leaves your blocker out of  position for a short time...I don't do this if a shot is likely on the short side.  Hmm....maybe I should mail Potvin this method (in French and with helpful diagrams, of course).  It sure would be nice to see Ciccerelli (who I have a great deal of respect for, BTW, he's not a big guy, but he plays huge!) fall on his back a few times!  :-)
> This is an all-point team for the Canadian NHLers who are not playoff bound...  CENTERS [...] > Geoff Sanderson, Hartford [...]  Sanderson will be on Team Canada, but he'd be out of position as a center. Although he was drafted as a center and played there as a rookie, Sanderson scored 46 goals this season as a left wing.
Don't know who scored, but the Isles (28-7 franchise record in playoff OT games) took game four by a score of 4-3 for their third consecutive OT win over the Capitals tonight at Uniondale. If you know, please post who scored for a Isles fan living in Atlanta:Hockey Hell.  Lord Stan's a Uniondale Man!  GO ISLES!
In article <1993Apr21.063836.4412@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes: > >   Tonight in Boston, the Buffalo Sabres blanked the Boston >Bruins 4-0 tonight in Boston. Looks like Boston can hang >this season up, because Buffalo's home record is awesome!!!! >This is great.. Buffalo fans might get to see revenge for >last year!!!!! :)  I'm glad Grant Fuhr will never be as over-confident after two wins as you are...it takes four wins to defeat an opponent...each tougher to obtain than the previous one.  Buffalo is off to a good start... Fuhr is proving the Fuhr-bashers wrong, but Boston is an awfully good team.
In article <wfozwMi00Uh_E1kyE=@andrew.cmu.edu> rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Angelo Pleshar) writes: >In other TV news, the Penguins announced yesterday that they will have 3 >fewer broadcast TV games, and will have 22(!) games on some sort of >subscription / pay-per-view system. Yuck.  This is incorrect.  This year the Pens had 61 games on "free" TV and 6 games on PPV.  Next year they will have 62 games on free TV and 22 on  a subscription basis.    You actually get 1 more free game than last year, and there will be no more "radio-only" games.  Its a good deal.  Last year, everybody bitched about Baldwin "breaking up the team".  Now, he goes out of his way to keep the nucleus of this team together and that takes money.  He comes up with a creative way to generate more revenue so he can afford this team, and people bitch some more.  Everybody wants something for nothing.  Dean  --
Team Canada defeated Russia 3-1 to finish the priliminary  round unbeaten at 5-0. Scoring for the Canadians were Kevin Dineen of  the Flyers, Eric Lindros also of the Flyers and Paul Cariya of the  Maine Black Bears. Cariya has put on quite a show at the Worlds. He is  sure to be drafted in the top 3 this summer at the NHL entry draft.  	Canada defeated Italy 11-2 and Austria 11-0 before meeting the  Russians on Sunday. The Canadians now face Finland in the Quarter - finals on Tuesday.
Well, since you mentioned it...  In article <1993Apr12.142028.6300@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:    > Lemieux is clearly the MVP  No question here.  Chip in the Masterson as well...  > Selanne wins the Calder  Yep.   > Chelios the Norris,  If you asked me 30 days ago, I'd agree with you.  I now give the nod to Raymond Bourque; his play took off the same time the B's did.  Chelios gets a close second...  > dunno who wins the Vezina, but I suspect not Potvin.      Barrasso finally gets his due, in a close one over Eddie the Eagle...  > Coach of the year is tricky:  Burns did the most with the least raw talent, > King did a good job but the Flames clearly underachieved last year, Brian > Sutter has done exceptionally well in his first year with a new team, ditto > Demers, Page has been blessed by the ripening and acquisition of young > talent, Darryl Sutter is having a good year for a rookie coach, Berry made > the best of a bad situation, Terry Crisp worked minor miracles, and Bowman > was Bowman.  I'd pick Burns, but I'm mildly biased.  In *your* case, that bias is acceptable :-)... Mine shows with the Norris pick, so we're even...  I'm impressed with what all the coaches you mentioned did, but my pick would be  Al Arbour.  Not too many folks thought the Isles would be in the playoffs, let  alone contend for 3rd in their division... Granted that they *did* have a little help from their cousins on Broadway... :-)  And I like the Islanders about as much as I like mowing my lawn...  > Mike Godfrey
%>I dunno, Lemieux?  Hmmm...sounds like he %>has *French* blood in him!!!  Hey!  France is part of Europe!  Send that %>Euro-blooded boy back!!! % % Don't you Americans study history...the French settled in North America % as early or before the British...Lemieux can probably trace back his % North American heritage back a lot further than most of us.   <friendly-jibe mode on>  Don't you Canadians understand sarcasm?  Sometimes the reader must decide that what he's reading is so ludicrous that it must mean the opposite of what it said...  Kinda like the "Toronto's going to win the Cup" posts.  Yeah.  Right. And cows can fly...  <friendly-jibe mode off>  Geez, Gerald.  Like anyone reading rec.flamefest.hockey.pens.are.great didn't know that Le-Mow was from Quebec.
* The Keenan hiring is precipitated by the loss of an anticipated $5M in playoff revenue and fears of losing season ticket-holders (!), plus Paramount chief Stan Jaffe's chip against the Flyers over l'Affaire Lindros last autumn.  Add to this that Neilsen might return as an assistant coach [Gerald, what'd I say earlier today??], and Roger conferred with Jaffe on the hiring.  This hiring by Jaffe went over the head of MSG, Inc. (Par. subsidiary) head Bob Gutkowski and over the head and the protests of Pres./GM Neil Smith.  * MSG is making the announcement on Saturday to get back at the Islanders for making the playoffs (i.e., steal the press).  * Flyers owner Ed Snyder is livid and beside himself over this.  * Keenan will make up to $900,000/yr.  * Gary Bettman has appointed an independent consul to look at Gil Stein's admission into the Hall of Fame.  * New crease colours, rather than blue?  * The Oilers will charge to eat in the Press Room next year.  gld
I live in the desolate MidWest (as far as hockey is concerned) and our "sports" stores around here carry VERY LITTLE hockey stuff, except for San Jose, Tampa Bay, L.A., Pittsburgh, and if you're lucky Chicago.  I would like to know if anyone knows of any m,ail order, phone order stores that I might be able to get in contact with.  I am dying for some real hockey stuff (hats, shirts, key chains, etc.) for some other teams (Edmonton, Montreal, etc.) so if you have any information, PLEASE e-mail me DIRECTLY.  Most appreciated!  Good luck to your teams in the Stanley Cup playoffs!  GO EDMONTON (likely...NOT!!)  Maybe next year... --  	"If you assult someone you get 5 years--In hockey, 5 minutes. 			Is this a great sport or what?!"
In <4LD32B2w165w@sms.business.uwo.ca> j3david@sms.business.uwo.ca (James David) writes:  >It was Bryan Trottier, not Denis Potvin.  It was a vicious >'boarding' from behind...Trottier was given a major.  Perhaps it was Trottier.  It happened behind the Habs goal if I recall. Gainey simply didn't have his head up as he was picking up the puck.  >But Roger, what the hell does this have to do with Gainey's skill >as a hockey player?  If Probert smashes Gilmour's head into the >boards next week, will that diminish your assessment of Gilmour's >skills?  If Gilmour was taken completely by surprise, as Gainey was, then yeah, I would have to say that Doug wasn't playing "technically" smart  hockey.  In any case, to claim as Greg did, that Gainey *never* made  a technical mistake is absolutely ludicrous.  >>Gainey was a plugger.  And when the press runs out of things to >>say about  the stars on dynasties they start to hype the >>pluggers.  Grant Fuhr, Essa Tikkannen, Butch Goring, Bob >>Nystrom, Bob Gainey, Doug Jarvis, Derek Sanderson, Wayne >>Cashman, Bob Baun, Bob Pulford, Ralph Backstrom, Henri Richard, >>Dick Duff...and so on... >  >I would take Fuhr and Sanderson off of the latter.  Good for you.  You'd only be displaying your ignorance of course, but to  each his own...  >I think Gainey would be honoured to know that you've included him  I think Gainey should feel honoured to know that he is remembered at  all.  >on this list.  I also think you have a relatively naive view >about what wins a hockey game...pluggers are an integral part of  Certainly pluggers are an integral part of any team.  And that is simply because there are not enough solid two-way players to go  around.  Who would you rather have as your "checking" centre?  Doug Gilmour or Doug Jarvis?  For that matter I would take either Gretzky or Mario as my "checking" centres.  Do you think Gretzky could cover Bob Gainey?   >any team.  The Selke is designed to acknowledge their >contribution...I think that most people understand that it's not >the Nobel Prize...so settle down.  You're wrong again.  The Selke is awarded to the forward that does the best job defensively and this may or may not be the best plugger.  If  Gilmour does the best defensive job in the league I don't see why he  should be out of the running simply because he also contributes offen- sively.  Settle down?  If you think that I have likened the Selke to the Nobel prize then I suggest that you had best "settle down".  And if you are going to try to put words in my mouth, let me suggest that you "settle  down" before you bother following up on my postings.   >congenially, as always, >  >jd >  >-- >James David >david@student.business.uwo.ca  You might consider developing your own style.  After all, imitation is  the sincerest form of flattery and I am quite sure that flattery is not  your intention.  cordially, as always,  rm
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|> As far as Cheveldae is concerned, he is a decent goalie.  The most logical |> trade in the offseason to me would be between Detroit and NY Rangers.  I'm sure |> if Beezer would be traded he would enjoy the opportunity to go back to his |> roots in Detroit.  He would be a valuable asset to the Wings and Perhaps the |> Rangers could get a Zombo in return?  Beezer got a few good years in him and |> the opportunity to get a fresh start would energize his play. |>   Only problem is that Zombo was traded to St. Louis last year for goalie Vincent Riendeau.  I think that while Chevy is not among the elite class of goalies, he is adequate given the offensive firepower of the Wings.
In article <1qsmhtINNt5l@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ddlin@athena.mit.edu (David D Lin) writes: >I hear Daigle will eb the first pick next year. What is the word on Kariya??? >Anybody ever seen him play on TV???? Is he also entering the draft???  People are seeming to be less concerned about Kariya's size as he leads teams to championships (World Junior and US College) and collects awards...everyone is watching with interest as to how he will perform on left wing with Eric Lindros and Mark Recchi at the world championships.  4 months of go...chances were not very good that he would go in the top five...now it has become probable...a great world championship could put him in the top 3 with Daigle and Pronger.
The Jets gave the Canucks another run for their money in an almost identical game to the first of the series but once again came up short as Vancouver outscored Winnipeg 3-2. 	The pattern of the first game was repeated tonight, with the Canucks scoring quickly and then going to sleep in the second period, only to stave off a Jet comeback with opportune goals from their greater talent. The Jets looked more dangerous in this one but it didn't make a difference in the  numbers that counted: goals. 	Vancouver's big line produced again, with centre Cliff Ronning and left winger Geoff Courtnall scoring in the first and in the second to  boost the Canucks to a 2-0 lead on giveaways by the suspect Jet defence of Bautin and Ulanov. Mental lapses by the defence and goal-scoring talent in opportune areas made the difference in all three Canuck goals. 	However, as in the first game, the Jets worked hard to take the game to the Canucks in the second period. The Jets dominated the second, checking hard and penetrating the Vancouver zone without being challenged by a Canuck team that wanted to pack it in early.  	The hard work paid off late in the second, when Tie Domi caught Vancouver goalie Kirk McLean by surprise with a sharp angle shot to make the score 2-1.  	Domi's goal gave the Jets new life as they began to take the rush to the Canuck's collapsing defence. The Canucks were unwilling to do  anything but let McLean take shots and clear the rebounds. The Jets were allowed to set up and make plays. 	Both goalies made standup saves as the play picked up considerably. McLean made three great saves in the second off a dancing Teammu Selanne while Essensa was rocked by a Pavel Bure drive. Selanne looked dangerous on the rush as the Jets pressed a series of attacks into the Canuck zone. The Canucks, on the other hand, looked like they were offering four checking lines in an effort to preserve their slim lead. 	A series of minor penalties at the end of the second period resulted in a one man advantage for the Jets in the early third. The Jet's Tempo Numminen drove a puck from the point through McLean's legs and into the net to tie the game at 2-2. 	The Canuck's discordant play picked up where it left off. This was characterized by long lead passes that either never connected or were picked off by the Jets and individual rushes into a tight Winnipeg defence that were never supported. 	However, as in the first and second Canuck goals, a Jet defensive lapse (re: bonehead play) stalled the Winnipeg comeback. With the faceoff in the Winnipeg zone, Pavel Bure was left to stand in the crease with no Jet defender anywhere near him. Bure, who had been invisible in the game up to that point, took a rebound and managed to roof it with a  backhand even though he was off balance.  	By then it was too late for the Jets to come back. Essensa made it to the bench with one minute to go but the extra attacker did nothing for their attack. Canucks 3, Winnipeg 2. 	Next game is Friday at Winnipeg with the Jets in the hole by two games. - 30 -
In <1993Apr22.212219.23130@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> spiegel@sgi501.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Spiegel) writes:  *In article <1993Apr21.234022.2880@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes: *> *>McGill/Hammond -> Johan Garpenlov.  Would you really rather have those two *>instead of Johan? * *	By your logic then you enjoy having Falloon and Ozolinsh on  *	injured reserve? *  Falloon was hurt on a clean check.  He just fell poorly.  Same with Wilson. I don't know about Ozolinsh.  A judo coach would do more for the Sharks  injury situation than Bob Probert.  Actually, a judo/ju-jitsu coach could help add a really interesting  wrinkle to anyone's game....
Well now that the hawks have won the division the road is a little easier for the playoffs. Let toronto and detroit beat the hell out of each other while Chicago sweeps st.louis. That just makes it easier in the second round with all the rest they will get and tor/det getting none. For the conf. champ they will have a hard time versus the division but that div. will be pretty battered also so the advantage goes to the Hawks again. Then bring pitt. and sure the Hawks will probably lose but its better to get that far and lose than to not go.
In article <1993Apr20.214505.6925@wkuvx1.bitnet> kozloce@wkuvx1.bitnet writes: >Jesus Christ!!! > >The score is now 6-0. The Pens are beating the shit out of the Devils who >gave up in the middle of the 2nd period. ESPN does something smart. The >announcer states "well folks this game is getting out of hand. Lets go to >the Islander/Capitals game." I celebrate as I was actually making progress in >my CS homework because I was so bored by the scheduled game.  I tear down and >throw on my jersey, Hunter scores I go ape shit 'cause this is the first >caps game I've been able to watch all season. And what does ESPN do? they >go back to the blowout that NJ hasn't a chance in hell of winning! >     The period ends and the sportscaster (CAPITOLS JUST TIED IT UP!! YES!! >oops excuse me =) goes into his penguin worship mode (Dont freak pens fans! >They are worthy of this! I'm so glad we wont have to play them as much next >year!) and here comes the 3rd period...what? its the blowout again. Oh they >were just waiting for the Cap/Isles to get out of intermission. Good >they've put a close game back on. Wait! WHATS THIS SHIT?!! THEY'RE SHOWING >THE BLOWOUT AGAIN! > > >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! > >(Oh guess what the score is now 7-0 penguins! Switch games you $%&*#@!!!) > >Holy shit they're changing games! ITS ABOUT GODDAMNED TIME!! Lets see if >they'll stay. > >Later > >I think this proves by $#%&* point. The Caps game goes into overtime but >"due to contractual obligations" they have to switch to the fucking baseball. >(Sorry for my language but im PISSED!) What the hell were they going to do >if their scheduled game went into overtime? ESPN get your head out of your >ass. > >Now I know there are a lot      First of all I think when ESPN covers the game they do a wonderful job, but  last night I felt the same way. I really hate watching Devils/Pens game.   Everyone knows that Devils are going to get their ass kicked, why even   bother showing them. I was so bored and these ESPN people don't seem to have  any brain. After the Sundays and last night games, they are still going to   show Devils/Pens on THU and SUN. WHat the hell are they thinking about? I   think if they keep it up like this NHL will never get a major network contract.  I'd rather see Caps/Isls game which is more exciting.    Now I just hope all baseball games are rained out on ESPN so atleast  we can get diffrent hockey games.
In article <1993Apr6.170330.12314@is.morgan.com> scairns@fsg.com writes: >Messier is a joke this year - bad back not withstanding.  His play is >the reason the Rangers will be on the golf course in a couple of weeks. >Gartner is my choice - the guy works his butt off every game. > >Kovalev - no surprise.  He's played adequately but as bad defensively  Kovalev is too talented a player to play for Roger Nielson...Roger needs players who can't think for themselves and can only skate in straight lines up and down the ice.  Dudley and Nielson are the only two coaches bad enough in the league to take talents like Mogilny and Kovalev and not know how to turn them into Bure and Selanne.  >as was predicted in preseason.  Perhaps he'll pull an Alex Mogilny in >a couple of years and surprise us then.  Zubov wasn't expected to make >it out of the minors this season and owing to the number of injuries, >has proved to be a very pleasant surprise. >  Get Muckler as coach, and Kovalev will look like Mogilny.  The trouble with the Rangers is that Neil Smith went out and got players like Messier, Kovalev, and Graves who have been schooled in taking the game to their opponent and attacking, while hiring coaches who are interested in "rope-a-dope" strategies.  If you want the Roger Nielsons of the world to be your coach you don't go out and get a Mark Messier, who is an old dog who can't learn new tricks from a known loser, and you don't waste your draft picks on players like Kovalev.  Gerald
smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:  > OK, I'll join in the fun and give my playoff predictions:  >  > 1st round:  > ---------- >  > PITT vs NYI:  PITT in 4.   > WASH vs NJD:  WASH in 6.  >  > BOS  vs BUF:  BOS  in 5.  > QUE  vs MON:  MON  in 7.  >  > CHI  vs STL:  CHI in 4.  > DET  vs TOR:  DET in 6.  >  > VAN  vs WIN:  WIN in 6.  > CAL  vs  LA:  CAL in 5.  >  > 2nd round:  > ---------- >  > PITT vs WASH: PITT in 4.  > BOS  vs MON:  BOS  in 6.  >  > CHI  vs DET:  CHI  in 7.  > WIN  vs CAL:  CAL  in 5.  >  > 3rd round:  > ---------- >  > PITT vs BOS:  PITT in 5.  > CHI  vs CAL:  CHI  in 5.  >  > Finals: > ------ >  > PITT vs CHI: PITT in 5.  >  >  > ============================================= > Walter >           Not bad, you only got 2 wrong,...         Cal over Chi in 5         and Cal over Pit in 6 (or 7) to take the SC
In article <C5xx27.G32@newsserver.pixel.kodak.com>, clare@ssd.kodak.com (Bill Clare 726-9419) writes... >That more or less says it.  I flicked the Penguins game on briefly and saw >Ulf cross-check Valeri in the face.  I am wondering if Don Cherry is going to >go off on this at all in coach's corner.  Nah, Cherry will only spew if Ulf was nailing "a good Canadian boy".  What an idiot... if this is the heart and soul of Canadian patriotism,  then someone needs a new hobby...
In article <rauser.734062608@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes: > > >   Ten years ago, the number of Europeans in the NHL was roughly a quarter >of what it is now. Going into the 1992/93 season, the numbers of Euros on >NHL teams have escalated to the following stats: > >Canadians: 400 >Americans: 100 >Europeans: 100 > > >   Here's the point: there are far too many Europeans in the NHL. I am sick  You know, you're absolutely right.  I think we should round up all those players of European descent and ship 'em back to where they came from.  Let's see, with whom should we start?  I dunno, Lemieux?  Hmmm...sounds like he has *French* blood in him!!!  Hey!  France is part of Europe!  Send that Euro-blooded boy back!!!  Sheesh.  >    I'm all for the creation of a European Hockey League, and let the Bures >and Selannes of the world play on their own continent. > >    I just don't want them on mine.  I don't think it would be hard to find some Native Americans (or Native Canadians, for that matter) who would dispute your claim to this great  continent of *ours.*  Ya see, if you believe the anthropologists, we're *all* immigrants of some sort.  If you really don't think that Mogilny, Bure, Selanne, et al have improved the NHL, then I'm not sure you understand the game.