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In article <1993May10.160125.3179@colorado.edu> perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (Eric S. Perlman) writes: >In article <C6t7q4.3Lp@ucdavis.edu> szwilso@chip.ucdavis.edu () writes:  >>That's your opinion, of course! If we were to take your military >>budget definition of "Foreign Aid," then the "Foreign Aid" we send >>annually to Israel is easily multiplied beyond the three to six >>(depending on whose figures you believe) million of hard-earned U.S. >>taxpayer's dollars.  >Oh really!  Let's see.  It costs the US Armed forces roughly 25K in >salaries for the average man or woman in uniform.  Normally it takes 2-3 >times the actual salary amount to support a worker.  Thus for the >roughly 150K soldiers currently stationed in Germany we get nearly 4 >billion dollars - more than the annual cost of *ALL* aid to Israel - in >personnel, not even counting what is spent on local workers and >equipment!  You're just beginning to scratch the surface.  Do you know how much military equipment costs?  When was the last time you tried to buy a mil-spec hammer, coffee-pot or toilet seat?    Paying Israel to do the dirty work on it's own without putting American soldiers's lives on the line is much, much, much cheaper than Uncle Sam's arrangements with much of the rest of the world.
----------------------------Original message----------------------------                                                                     D"SB  Below please find an electronic copy of a leaflet put up at Warsaw U.:  DEGEL*HATORAH Jewish Circle for Arts and Sciences, University of Warsaw, Warsaw, invites you to the lecture *PRESENT-DAY SOCIOPOLITICAL ISSUES OF THE MIDDLE EAST* which will be delivered by Dr Mohamed SOLIMAN, Egypt's Ambassador to Poland. Time & place: 4 p.m., Tuesday, 25th May, '93, (Erev Shavuot; Dept. of Arabic & Islamic Studies, Oriental Institute (Polish: Orientalistyka), University of Warsaw, 26/28 Krakowskie Przedmies'cie Street, PL-00-927 WARSAW, Poland.  :molahs ahetovit'n lohk'v       *       ma(on yehk'rad ahehkar'd                               *   * #############       *   *   *   *   *   *   *       ############ #############         *   *           *   *         ############            #            *               *                     # #          #          *   *           *   *                   # #          #        *   *   *   *   *   *   *                 #                               *   *                                 *  DEGEL*HATORAH  Judaistyczne Kol/o Nauk i Sztuk przy Uniwersytecie Warszawskim w Warszawie zaprasza na wykl/ad pt. *AKTUALNE ZAGADNIENIA SPOL/ECZNO-POLITYCZNE BLISKIEGO WSCHODU*, kto'ry wygl/osi Dr Mohamed SOLIMAN, Ambasador Egiptu w Polsce. Czas i miejsce: 16:00, wtorek, 25 maja, '93, (Erev Shavuot; Zakl/ad Arabistyki i Islamistyki, Instytut Orientalistyczny, Uniwersytet Warszawski, 26/28 Krakowskie Przedmies'cie, PL-00-927 WARSZAWA.
From: Center for Policy Research <cpr> Subject: Zionism - racism   Diaspora 'a cancer' ------------------- by Julian Kossoff and Lindsay Schusman in: Jewish Chronicle, London, 22. Dec. 1989  Leading Israeli author and cultural commentator, A.B. Yehoshua, launched a ferocious attack on diaspora Jewry at a Zionist Youth Council meeting in North London, last week.  The diaspora, he claimed, "was the cancer connected to the main tissue of the Jewish people". He was scathing about its failure to act before the Holocaust.  He said the diaspora's religious and secular leadership had ignored the warning signs in the 1920s, and had fiercely opposed Zionism. Consequently, he considered the Holocaust, "the failure of Judaism".  His talk, entitled "Diaspora: A Neurotic Solution", covered 5,000 years of Jewish history.  Mr. Yehoshua's other targets included Soviet Jews who were, he said "not staying [in Israel], but running [away]", and all Jews outside Israel "who were using other people's countries like hotels".  The only conclusion he could draw was that the diaspora was immoral, because it looked to Israel for its identity but lived elsewhere.  Worse, it threatened Israel itself, creating a distraction for her citizens, who were leaving by the thousands.  Mr. Yehoshua, who described himself as "a soldier for aliyah", ended by calling for the creation of a new "total Jew", living in Israel.  Earlier, speaking at a meeting of Jewish students on the difficulties of forging a national identity in Israeli literature, Mr. Yehoshua claimed that Israeli writers were paralyzed by the country's political situation.  He said Israel's wars had once provided writers with a vital source of inspiration.  Today, Israeli writers avoided writing directly about the Arab-Israeli conflict. No major work had been produced about the intifada.  Instead, writers were tackling themes such as Jewish identity, emigration from Israel and personal and family issues.  Mr. Yehoshua admitted he also felt unable to write about the Israeli political situation. He could no longer step into an Israeli Arab's shoes and portray him as a real "flesh and blood character".  He claimed that after 40 years of statehood, the problem of Israeli identity had not been solved. He said Jews remained too pre-occupied with the borders of identity between Jew and non-Jew, and were not concerned with the nature of that identity.  Jewish values in Israel embraced every aspect of daily life, unlike in the diaspora, where Jews had no responsibility for the country they lived in, he said.  He warned that modern Hebrew, a unifying force for the Jewish people, would have to struggle for its future, especially in literary circles. It faced fierce competition from the English language.
In article <2BDC2931.17498@news.service.uci.edu> tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:  >Certainly, the Israeli had a legitimate worry behind the action they took, >but isn't that action a little draconian?  	What alternative would you suggest be taken to safeguard the lives of Israeli citizens?  Adam Adam Shostack 				       adam@das.harvard.edu
From: Center for Policy Research <cpr> Subject: Assistance to Palest.people   U.N. General Assembly Resolution 46/201 of 20 December 1991  ASSISTANCE TO THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE --------------------------------------------- The General Assembly  Recalling its resolution 45/183 of 21 December 1990  Taking into account the intifadah of the Palestinian people in the occupied Palestinian territory against the Israeli occupation, including Israeli economic and social policies and practices,  Rejecting Israeli restrictions on external economic and social assistance to the Palestinian people in the occupied Palestinian territory,  Concerned about the economic losses of the Palestinian people as a result of the Gulf crisis,  Aware of the increasing need to provide economic and social assistance to the Palestinian people,  Affirming that the Palestinian people cannot develop their national economy as long as the Israeli occupation persists,  1. Takes note of the report of the Secretary-General on assistance to the Palestinian people;  2. Expresses its appreciation to the States, United Nations bodies and intergovernmental and non-governmental organizations that have provided assistance to the Palestinian people,  3. Requests the international community, the United Nations system and intergovernmental and non-governmental organizations to sustain and increase their assistance to the Palestinian people, in close cooperation with the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), taking in account the economic losses of the Palestinian people as a result of the Gulf crisis;  4. Calls for treatment on a transit basis of Palestinian exports and imports passing through neighbouring ports and points of exit and entry;  5. Also calls for the granting of trade concessions and concrete preferential measures for Palestinian exports on the basis of Palestinian certificates of origin;  6. Further calls for the immediate lifting of Israeli restrictions and obstacles hindering the implementation of assistance projects by the United Nations Development Programme, other United Nations bodies and others providing economic and social assistance to the Palestinian people in the occupied Palestinian territory;  7. Reiterates its call for the implementation of development projects in the occupied Palestinian territory, including the projects mentioned in its resolution 39/223 of 18 December 1984;  8. Calls for facilitation of the establishment of Palestinian development banks in the occupied Palestinian territory, with a view to promoting investment, production, employment and income therein;  9. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the General The General Assembly at its 47th session, through the Economic and Social Council, on the progress made in the implementation of the present resolution. -----------------------------------------------
In article <1993Apr26.234331.7303@Virginia.EDU> rj3s@Virginia.EDU ("Get thee to a nunnery.....") writes:     This is such Bullshit.  Deir Yassin was an unprovoked attack on    the part of the Jews, and a massacre defines it best in my    opinion.  The village of Deir Yassin had had a pact with the    Jews, a peace pact, but the Irgun purposely broke this    agreement in order to scare off the Palestinians.  I might    grant that this village housed armed Arabs [I doubt it] but    nothing in the archives and available literature indicates that    this was a motivating force amongst the Irgun.  The Deir Yassin    MASSACRE was part of an over all strategy to intimidate the    Palestinians to flee the Jewish Homeland.,...and contrary to    your belief, many civilians were killed.  Deir Yassin was later    advertized by the very Jews who perpetrated it because it was    useful in getting many Palestinians to leave.  The Palestinians    were rightfully scared off, because they did not want another    Deir Yassin.   	   I'm not necessarily condemning the Israelites here;    atrocities were aslo committed on the part of the Arabs.    Israelophiles should just be careful in thinking that they are    and were the good guys in the middle east.  Both Arab and Jew    suck equally.  rj3s, you say that there is no evidence that what motivated the Irgun to attack Dir Yassin was its strategic importance. In fact, Begin, who was in charge of the Irgun, wrote that Dir Yassin was attacked for its military significance.  Dir Yassin was merely a battle in the War of Liberation. People died. But the thing was never intended to be a masacre. That this hapenned is a tragedy of war - not a crime of the Irgun.
I don't think Yigal and his friends have had as much fun for years, if ever, as they're getting over this ADL business.  The publicity is likely to generate some speaker's fees, too.
clarinews@clarinet.com (BAHAA ELKOUSSY) writes:  >	CAIRO, Egypt (UPI) -- Despite reports and evidence to the contrary a >Foreign Ministry spokesman Wednesday denied knowledge of any measures >taken by Egyptian authorities to restrict telephone contacts with states >linked to Muslim militants.  Any state that the CIA does not control is called "state that is linked to terrorism/militants/fundamentalists etc.." Meanwhile Even Egyptian "experts" who hate The Islamic movement admit that what is happening in Egypt is spontaneous and most of the time a reaction to what the government does.  >	Reports, such as one by Israeli Radio and the Iranian official news >agency, IRNA, said this week Cairo has disconnected telephone lines with >Iran, Sudan, Pakistan and Afhganistan. ... >	When asked if the telephone communication restrictions represented a >new measure by Egyptian authorities Ibrahim agreed.  Can anybody see any contradiction between the above and the first paragraph?  Does anybody know what the UPI original article's title was?
In article <390@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP> ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon) writes:  >Does anybody know how many Jews, Arabs, Christians and others have died  >in terrorist attacks and wars over these 45 years due to Arab rhetoric and  >rejectionism? The number is probably close to 100,000 at least. > >All these lives wasted because the ARABS did not accept the PARTITION PLAN  >in 1947.  Well over 100,000 in Lebanon alone. 1,000,000 - 2,000,000 in the Iran/Iraq conflict, even if Iranians aren't Arabs, strictly speaking.  (They seem to hate the Zionists at least as much as anyone else in the neighborhood.  Is there some correlation perhaps between hating Israel and killing off your own people?)
In article <1993Apr27.194346.8707@dazixco.ingr.com> nstramer@dazixco.ingr.com writes: > >Peace Talks Resume Today; Israel to Offer Palestinians New >			   Proposals >  >Israel Radio, KOL YISRAEL, reports on today's resumption in >Washington of the bilateral peace talks, following a recess which >lasted over four months. According to the report, Israel is >expected to offer the Palestinians new proposals regarding the >authority of the Palestinian Executive Council, general elections, >control over land and human rights issues in the Territories. >Israel will express its readiness to give the Palestinians control >of more land than previously offered.   >According to the radio >report, one estimate is that Israel will give the Palestinians >control over as much as two thirds of the administered lands, as >well as broad authority on water issues. Israel will seek to >promote its offer to hold elections in the Territories in hopes of >strengthening the position of the Palestinian delegation to the >peace negotiations. According to Israel Radio, the Israeli >delegation to the bilateral talks with the Palestinians will offer >greater responsibilities to the Palestinian Executive Council >allowing it certain legislative capabilities, without making it a >symbol for Palestinian sovereignty. U.S. Secretary of State Warren >Christopher invited all the heads of delegations to a gathering >tonight. It will be the first such event since the Madrid >conference. Head of the American team at the bilateral peace talks, >Edward Djerejian, said that tonight's gathering is meant to >demonstrate the U.S.' active role in the peace process. >  I hope, I hope, that we can begin to involve ourselves in the issues and concerns related to this peace process. We have differing opinions, certainly, on these aspects but it is clear that we all share the hope that "resolution" of the tensions and conflict **will** happen.  As we "run to the defense" of our side, there is no need to constantly  involve ourselves in name-calling. All of us are regularly confused by the "other's" reactive posting because "they" spend most of the post applying "labels" and presenting slogans than in just presenting their honest views. Then...when we "react", we do the same thing. -------------=--------------------+-----------------------=-----------  Do you, as I do, agree that this (sort) of "peace process" is needed? What about the particular points mentioned in the article? Is what Israel is (supposedly) going to propose "good"? Does it go too far? Not far enough?  If you don't agree that a "peace process" is needed, what is?
Subject: Re: NETTEKI BUTUN VATANSEVERLERE DUYURU....  In article <1993Apr13.090647.2507@freenet.carleton.ca> aa624@Freenet.carleton. ca (Suat Kiniklioglu) [a.k.a. Kubilay Kultigin] continues...  [KK] BUTUN NETTEKI ARKADASLARA DUYURU.... [KK] [KK] (SIYASI PLATFORMUN HANGI "TARAFINDA OLURSANIZ OLUN") [KK]  [KK] BUGUNLERDE BU NETTE OLSUN, TALK.POLITICS.MIDEAST VE TALK.POLITICS. [KK] SOVIET'TE OLSUN OLAGAN DAN FAZLA VE "ETKIN" ERMENI VE YUNAN [KK] POSTINGLERI YAZILMAKTADIR. BU YAZILARIN COGU GUNCEL KARABAG [KK] KIBRIS VE BOSNA KONULARINDA YOGUNLASMAKTADIR. BURADAN HAREKETLE [KK] "HEPIMIZIN" BIRAZ DAHA AKTIF OLMASI VE "USENMEYIP" CEVAP YAZMASI [KK] OLDUKCA FAYDALI OLACAKTIR. [KK] [KK] EVET, HERKESIN ISI GUCU VAR...AKADEMIK YILIN YOGUN BIR DONEMI [KK] FAKAT MEYDANI BOS BIRAKMAMANIN VE ULKEMIZIN CIKARLARINI "IDEOLOJIK [KK] PLATFORMDA" GOZETMENIN DE SORUMLULUGU VAR... [KK] [KK] YARINLARIN CAGDAS VE GUCLU TURKIYESI'NI HEP BERABER KURMAK UMUDUYLA, [KK] [KK] SAYGILAR,  [KK] Kubilay Kultigin  [KK] ***** VATAN SEVGISI RUHLARI KIRDEN KURTARAN EN KUVVETLI RUZGARDIR *****  In translation, as a public service:  Subject: AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL PATRIOTS ON THE NET...  AN ANNONCEMENT TO ALL FRIENDS ON THE NET...  (REGARDLESS OF "WHEREVER YOU STAND" ON THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM)  IN RECENT DAYS ARMENIAN AND GREEK POSTINGS OF THAN THE USUAL IN NUMBER AND "EFFECTIVENESS" ARE BEING WRITTEN BOTH ON THIS NET AND THE TALK.POLITICS. MIDEAST AND TALK.POLITICS.SOVIET. MOST OF THESE WRITINGS CONCENTRATE ON THE SUBJECTS OF KARABAGH, CYPRUS AND BOSNIA. DUE TO THIS FACT, IT IS QUITE USEFUL FOR "US ALL" BE MORE ACTIVE AND "NOT FEEL RELUCTANT" TO RESPOND.   YES, EVERYBODY HAS HIS/HER OCCUPATION...IT IS A BUSY PERIOD IN THE ACADEMIC  YEAR. HOWEVER, [WE MUST] HAVE A RESPONSIBILTY NOT TO LEAVE THE FORUM EMPTY AND  WATCH THE INTERESTS OF OUR COUNTRY ON THE "IDEOLOGICAL LEVEL"...  IN THE HOPE OF BUILDING TOGETHER A MODERN AND POWERFUL TURKEY OF TOMORRROW.  REGARDS,  Kubilay Kultigin  ***** THE LOVE OF THE FATHERLAND IS THE STRONGEST OF ALL WINDS CLEANSING FILTH  OFF SOULS *****
Subject: Re: PLEASE! SHOW UP IN WASHINGTON DC FOR BOSNIA (MAY 15th) From: Nick Jovanovic, jovanovic-nick@yale.edu Date: 12 May 1993 17:19:43 -0400 In article <1srplfINNkth@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> Nick Jovanovic, jovanovic-nick@yale.edu writes: >In article <1sredr$72b@venus.haverford.edu> Michael Sells <m_sells@haverford.edu> writes: > >> ... I find it interesting that Mr. Major finds the genocide of two >>million Muslims in Bosnia acceptable ...   > > >Now you are actually claiming that 2,000,000 Muslims have been killed >in B-H??? > >Please substantiate this utterly ridiculous claim.  No, I'm not claiming 2,000,000 have been killed.  We are in the middle of the genocide process that Mr. Major has given yet another "green light" to.  Mladic seems to have most of what he wants, but Boban is just getting his appetite whetted. Because Mladic refuses to allow international observers to inspect mass-grave sites and killing centers in places like Foca, Brcko, and Visegrad, it will be years before we have an accurate account of the number killed.   In practical terms, it would be impossible to kill all 2,000,000.  There just isn't the kind of machinery of crematoria and gas chambers and transportation lines that the Nazis took 8 YEARS to develop.  And remember, the Nazis killed minorities in the countries they occupied.  To actually kill 42% of the population requires extreme genocidal organization.     But I do claim that the goal of the genocide is the systematic annihilation of Bosnian Muslim culture, by killing as many as is feasible, by rape, by torture, by the demolition of mosques, libraries, and culture artificts, the burning and renaming of villages, the shelling of civilians.  So that there won't be any of the 2,000,000 or so Muslims whose lives have not been shattered by the genocide, though they still may be alive.  And Mr. Major not only finds this acceptable, he helps it along by making sure that the victims don't have arms to defend themselves. > >-Nick > Mike.
In article <1993Apr23.002811.22496@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> 2120788@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes: >I've heard many Turks say this and it surpises me that they don't read about >it.Remember the Treaty of Sevres-as a consequence of being in the Axis powers >in WWI.The Turks UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW were supposed to look after their >minorities ie. Greeks,Armenians,Kurds(I must say Turk-Kurd relations are  >improving slightly with time) and not pose a threat to Turkey's neighbours. >The Turks blatantly rejected this treaty(the Germans grudgingly accepted  >Versailles which was a million times worse for the health and pride of the  >German people).The Greeks who had an army there,were there with BRITISH >and FRENCH backing to enforce Sevres. >    In possibly the first example of appeasement the Young Turk government >managed screwed the Treaty of Laussane out of the weak allies,this was after  >the Greek forces were were destroyed at Smyrna.When this occurred incidently, >FRENCH warships were in the harbour and many Greeks trying escape swam to the  >FRENCH warships and climbed aboard only to get their arms cut off by the FRENCH >as they clawed they're way up the sides of the ships. >Libertae,egalitae,fraternatae. It seems to me that you are the one who is supposed to do some reading. I think that our major difference in opinion is on the legitimacy of Sevres. First, thattreaty was signed by the Ottoman Empire therefore legally it does not bind the  Republic of Turkey. The new independence movement (which by the way, is not the same as the Young Turks) naturally rejected it out of hand. to say that we  should accept because the Germans did theirs is absurd. We saw what the cosequences of such harsh treaties were in Hitler. Second, the Sevres treaty was even  worse than Versailles. It divided the Ottoman Empire in to several influence  zones, had the capital occupied, the economy under Allied control, the army di minished to nothing but a police force, in short a country in name only. I'd wonder if you would like to live under such conditions. And for the record, I donot feel sorry for the soldiers killed in IZMIR harbour. Before evacuating the  city, the Greek forces burned it down, so it serves them right. As for being fooled by Allied promises, that too is your fault. You did not come to Anatolia just to enforce Sevres but to take part in the plunder  as well. K. Burak Ucer
Sorry, ARF - you dog,  That news was suppressed because the Israeli national volleyball team repeatedly spiked it.  Let this be a lesson to others not to invoke the wrath of sports nuts. (Brits lead the way in this regard, with ~220 casualties in the last 2 years.)  Anyway, Yigal would never sue.  His life is (presumably) so pristine that its most intimate details could be revealed without harm to anyone.  Might even be good instruction for some people I can think of.
ILYESS B. BDIRA (benali@alcor.concordia.ca) wrote: > On the other side of the coin, give me an instance where the Muslims > killed non-Muslims, raped their families, and burned their houses, just > for the sake of it when they were a strong majority. Of course there have  	Hmmm... what about the genocide conducted by the Ottoman Empire aganist the Armenians living in Turkey.