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In article <1993Apr5.203552.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes: >TSN Sportsdesk just reported that the OTTAWA SUN has reported that >Montreal will send 4 players + $15 million including Vin Damphousse  >and Brian Bellows to Phillidelphia, Phillie will send Eric Lindros >to Ottawa, and Ottawa will give it's first round pick to Montreal. >  Obviously some reporter for the Ottawa Sun got taken by an April Fools joke...probably started by someone with the Nordiques or the Bruins.    Like for example...who is going to reimburse the Flyers for the $15 million they paid to the Nordiques...like the Senators are going to get Lindros and $15 million.  The Flyers sent the equivalent of 6 or 7 players (when you include the draft choices) to Quebec, and they are going to get only four back.  Some reporter was had real badly and someone must be having a real good laugh seeing as how the so much of the sports media has chosen to publicize this utter nonsense.  >If this is true, it will most likely depend on whether or not Ottawa >gets to choose 1st overall.  Can Ottawa afford Lindros' salary? >  Can you think...it cannot possibly be true...no need for the "if"!  >Personally, I can't see Philli giving up Lindros -- for anything.   >They didn't give away that much to Quebec just to trade him away  >again.  Not to mention that Lindros seems to be a *huge* draw in >Phillie -- and that he represents a successful future for the  >franchise. >  >Ottawa may be better off taking the 4 players +$15 from Montreal >for the pick. >   I can't believe that anyone would consider giving such crap even the remotest consideration.
In article <1993Apr19.204348.8254@sol.UVic.CA>, gballent@hudson.UVic.CA writes... >  >In article 735249453@vela.acs.oakland.edu, ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes: >  >>are predicting).  Although I think Bryan Murray is probably the best GM >>I have ever seen in hockey >  >How do you figure that??  When Bryan Murray took over the Wings they were >a pretty good team that was contending for the Stanley Cup but looked >unlikely to win it.  Now they are a pretty good team that is contending for >the Stanley Cup but looks unlikely to win it.  A truly great GM would >have been able to make the moves to push the team to the upper echelon >of the NHL and maybe win the Stanley Cup.  A good GM (like Murray) can  I think Murray has done a great job.  He's picked up Ciccarelli, Sheppard, Ysebaert, Howe, Coffey, and Riendeau (plus some depth players)  without giving up anything the Wings needed or any of his top prospects. All of this in three years.  Has anyone done better?  The year before he took over, the Wings didn't even make the playoffs. There was about a year and a half during Demers' stint that the Wings did OK, but that was due to Demers' motavational skills and clutch and grab style.  They didn't have much talent.  Gerald, Murray wasn't responsible for Primeau (although I'm not ready to admit that's a horrible pick).  They hired him after the draft (which has never made sense to me).  His first pick was Lapointe.  Ron
cdash@moet.cs.colorado.edu (Charles Shub) writes... >  >so all us hockey/automobile racing fans all know exactly where we stand >	ESPN delays the martinsville race by a day for the NFL draft >	ESPN shows baseball instead of the overtime of a NHL playoff game >  >	gimme a break, guys >  What really irritated me was that they kept switching back and forth between baseball and hockey after they stated that they couldn't show the overtime period. I turned back to ESPN around 11 and it was hockey. Great, I pulled up a chair and watched, then the first overtime period  ended and they went back to baseball before coming back to hockey something like 30 minutes later. Are they trying to alienate both hockey and baseball viewers at the same time. As for Martinsville, I wonder why they even bothered to sign up for it when they it was no secret that it coincided with the draft. Why not let TNN broadcast it ?   George
In article <1993Apr6.160042.4953@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> da_tinker1@vax.cns.muskingum.edu writes: >When will the new Miami franchise team announce it's name? >Just curious.  	The South Florida Colons.  	:)
In article <C4wty9.40u@mcs.anl.gov> mwm@aps.anl.gov writes: >In article 5KL@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca, kwk2chow@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (KEVIN C.) writes: >> (Thanks for the goals by Steve Smith)  >I don't see why more people don't blame grant fuhr for the goal that smith  >put in his own net, it's common to play the puck back to your own goalie when >deep in your own end and under little or no pressure from the offensive team. >If fuhr had been in position the puck would have never crossed the line. > >Mike McDowell  I have to disagree with you on this one.  It is anything BUT common.  In the 4 or 5 years I have been watching hockey I have NEVER seen this happen EVER.  I am not sure what league you have been watching.  :-)  Anyone else agree with this?
In article <1993Apr20.211124.23075@btree.uucp>, terry@btree.uucp (Terry Whalen) writes: |>Path: netnews.upenn.edu!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!news.se ervice.uci.edu!network.ucsd.edu!btree!terry |>From: terry@btree.uucp (Terry Whalen) |>Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey |>Subject: Re: FLYERS:with & without Eric |>Message-ID: <1993Apr20.211124.23075@btree.uucp> |>Date: 20 Apr 93 21:11:24 GMT |>References: <1993Apr19.030101.116104@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> |>Organization: Brooktree Corporation |>Lines: 47 |> |>In article <1993Apr19.030101.116104@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ksc2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KEVIN S. CARRAGHER) writes: |>>The Philadelphia Inquirer posted the following stats: |>> |>> |>>WITH LINDROS: |>> |>>    29-23-9 |>>    GOALS AGAINST AVERAGE: 3.49 |>>    GOALS SCORED AVERAGE: 4.27 |>> |>> |>>WITHOUT LINDROS: |>> |>>    7-14-2 |>>    GOALS AGAINST AVERAGE: 3.92 |>>    GOALS SCORED AVERAGE: 2.52 |>> |>> |>>I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS OBVIOUS.  HE'S A DOMINANT PLAYER |>> |>> |>>SKIP |> |> |>Yes he is! |> |>He will become a major franchise player and bring the Flyers to the cup |>in ............ |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |>...6 or 7 years |> 	Will they name Lindros captain next year or Recchi. Geoff
David Downie (dave@downie.commerce.ubc.ca) wrote: :  : Speaking of Paddock--what's he doing slagging Sandlak?  If Sandlak puts   : his mind to it, he can be a physical presence and waking him up might be a   : real mistake.  	Isn't Sandbag out with an injury now anyways?  Perhaps Paddock meant to say that Momesso was the cheap short artist.  After all, that would make more sense.
co398@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Theodore G. Benjamin) writes:   >In messge 51890 on Mon Apr 19 15:46:40 1993, greanias@texas.mitre.org (Steve Greanias) wrote:  >>        I do not have cable and on the nights the Caps don't  >>play, I would like to tune in other games.  Does anyone have a  >>list of the radio stations which broadcast the games for the NHL >>teams?  >Here are the ones I can remember offhand:  >     KDKA    1020 AM   Pittsburgh Penguins  Lori, the regular Penguins poster here on rec.sport.hockey, indicated to me via e-mail that on the nights that Pirates baseball and Penguins playoff  games coincide, the Pens will be covered on WDVE FM (102.5).
In article <1993Apr20.032017.5783@wuecl.wustl.edu>, jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) says: > > It was nice to see ESPN show game 1 between the Wings and Leafs since >the Cubs and Astros got rained out. Instead of showing another baseball >game, they decided on the Stanley Cup Playoffs. A classy move by ESPN. > > It was a classy move.  But it looks like ESPN is going to devote most of the coverage to the Pens.  On Tuesday night, they continued to broadcast the Pen-Devil game even though Pittsburgh had the game well in control. Granted they did show some "bonus" coverage of the Caps and Isles but they cut away from the close game, which went into double ot, to update us on the fifth goal of the rout. Thursday was a good game even if it was the second straight game between the pens and devils.  IMHO they should program some variety into the telecasts.(Yes I know the game shown on saturday is between the B's and Sabres, probably throwing a bone to us Bruin fans.) And what about the Cambell conference?  I'd like to see a game in the Norris or Smythe.  Why not have back to back nights of National Hockey Night?  Just a thought.
I saw a previous request for the Rules and Instructions for the USENET  playoff pool but I haven't seen any responce. Does anybody have this info? If so post away or you could mail it to me. Thanks in advance.
Dale Hunter ties the game, scoring his third goal of the game with 2.7 seconds remaining in regulation.       You could feel it coming on.       "Due to contractual agreements, ESPN will be unable to carry the rest of this game live, so that we may show you a worthless early-season battle between those two pennant contenders, the  Cleveland Indians and the California Angels.  When the winning goal is scored, we WILL do the grave injustice of breaking into the baseball game -- something reserved only for the deaths of Presidents or the trading of Joe Montana to the Chiefs -- to show you the  goal on instant replay.      "Aren't you SO lucky to have national coverage of hockey?"       It's HEIDI all over again, dammit!
In article <BSON.93Apr14154548@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu>, bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) writes: |> In article <1993Apr13.132133.16224@sei.cmu.edu> gjp@sei.cmu.edu (George Pandelios) writes: |>  |>  > The Pens won't be playing Montreal, because Boston will win Adams |>  > divisional play.  Buffalo and Quebec will make decent showings. |>  > Boston, out of sheer determination, will win a game against the Pens, |>  > but no more.  They have heart, but the Pens have too many big guns and |>  > too many ways to win. |>  |>    If Boston does indeed win the Adams (nothing is certain), and |> indeed gets to play the Pens, then I think you'll find a very |> different Boston team this year. Boston will use every trick in the |> book to shut down the Pens offense -- something they didn't even try |> last year. The Pens' weak spot is defense and goaltending -- if Boston  First, I enjoyed reading your post.  Second, I disagree with the Pen's weak spot being defense and goaltending - for a couple of reasons.  Barrasso has had a spectacular year - no slow start, consistently sharp, GAA < 3.0, and  leads the league in wins.  Tommy deserves the Vezina.  Given the lack of  respect he commands, though, I doubt he will win it.  The other reason  concerns the Pens' team defense.  They are hovering around 3rd or 4th in the fewest goals allowed.  That is a big improvement for them, and it indicates that they are playing better team defense.  |> can shut down the Pens' offense and get an early goal, then you have a |> real game. If the Pens score first, then it's practically over. I |> don't think the Pens have the discipline to stick to the team game if |> they're held scoreless 5 minutes into the second. |>  |>    Boston doesn't have the guns of the Pens, but the Pens doesn't have |> the defense, goaltending, and discipline of Boston. Still, Boston can |> put the puck in the net. Remember that Boston is not a "run-and-gun" |> Patrick-style team, although they played run-and-gun hockey for the |> better part of the regular season (who doesn't). Even Neely backchecks |> all the way in behind his own net if necessary. |>  |>    Penalty-killing will be a big factor. Boston are, I believe +2 over |> the last 40-something short-handed situations, meaning they have |> scored 4 SHG while giving up 2 PPG (one in a lackluster game against |> Ottawa). |>  |>    I'd say the series will go to 5 or 6. But I'm much less certain |> whether it will be in favor of the Pens or the B's. Their styles going |> into the playoffs are too different to make it predictable. Still, I'd |> place my bets on the Pens I think. My prediction is that if the B's |> can get the first goal in four of the games, they'll take the series. |> Otherwise the Pens will. |>  |>    But I'd rather wait and see whether the B's will actually get out |> of the Adams to begin with... Buffalo, Quebec, and Montreal aren't |> exactly planning to call it a game and go home! |>  |> -- |> 						-- Jan Brittenson |> 						   bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu  We'll see.  It'll be fun.
As the subject suggests the Flames were not impressive this afternoon, dropping a 6-3 decision to the LA Kings. Most of the Flames neglected to show up, especially in their own zone, as the Kings hit at least five posts! The Flames best line was probably Skrudland-Paslawski-Berube (which tells how bad the Flames were). Gary Suter scored a great goal (in fact all three Flame goals were scored by D-men - Yawney and Dahlquist getting the others), but also made some bonehead plays. For the Kings, Pat Conacher was especially impressive.   The games was VERY chippy, as Dan Mirouelli lost control early and never recovered it; there were high-sticks, cross-checks, punches, hits from behind. Fleury got a game misconduct for rubbing out Warren Rychel from behind. Flames dominated the game physically, but failed to take advantage due to horrendous defensive lapses (I don't think Vernon can be blamed for any of the goals). Calgary went with 7 D-men, as Roger Johansson played LW; he looked lost IMHO - I hope King inserts Chris Lindbergh, Paul Kruse, or Sergei Makarov for Wednesday's game. Gretzky left the game in the 2nd period with a charley-horse; no idea how serious - he didn't return.  I still think the Flames should win this series, but they better buckle down.
Everyone... Read this.  If you have already sent your predictions, please correct the Patrick division if you would like.  You have until midnight on monday (my time.)  You may need to correct these games...   3 - Pittsburgh vs. New Jersey 4 - New York Islanders vs. Washington  10 - Patrick Division Winner  13 - Wales Conference Winner  15 - Stanley Cup Winner  Please forward all corrections to  Richard Madison rrmadiso@napier.uwaterloo.ca
Charlie Betz (cbetz@romulus.cray.com) writes: > After reading some of the reports of possible NHL moves to Milwaukee or that > Milwaukee should have an NHL team, I thought I'd pass along a story I heard > recently.  This is second hand, so I don't know how true it is, but I have > no reason to doubt it either. >  > Bradley Center in Milwaukee is home to the Milwaukee Admirals minor leauge > hockey team.  The owner of the Admirals (sorry, I can't remember his name) > either owns or at least shelled out the majority of the funds to build the > Bradley Center.  Lloyd Pettit.  >  > Supposedly he was approached by the NHL about an expansion franchise, but  > turned it down because he thought the franchise fee of $50 million was too > high. >  > Like I said, I don't know whether this story is true or just a rumor, but if > it's true, don't look for an NHL team in Milwaukee anytime soon.  The Admirals > aren't going to be forced out of the building and you won't see an NHL club > and a minor league club in the same building, especially since the NBA's > Milwaukee Bucks play there as well.  Yes, it is true that he refused to buy a franchise from the NHL for $50M; but at the time the reason was that the established market for teams was much  less than that. He felt that no one would pay $50M for an expansion team, and that he would simply wait to buy an existing franchise for less than that. But the market fooled him, and 5 teams have been created for $50M apiece in the last three years, and even the existing teams can't be moved for less than  $50M and I doubt that he could get one for that little.  Pettit gambled and lost. Now he'll have to pay more.
PATRICK 1st rd:	Pens over Isles in 4. 	Devils over Caps in 6. 2nd:	Pens over Devils in 7.  ADAMS 1st rd: B's over Sabres in 5. 	Nords over Habs in 5. 2nd:	B's over Nords in 6.  NORRIS 1st:	Hawks over Stars/Blues in 5. 	Wings over Leafs in 7. 2nd:	Hawks over Wings in 5.  SMYTHE 1st:	Jets over Canucks in 7.	(call it a hunch) 	Flames over Kings in 5. 2nd:	Jets over Flames in 6.  WALES Pens over B's in 7.	  CAMPBELL Hawks over Jets in 5.  STANLEY Pens over Hawks in 5.
In article <0P6a3B1w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> jimg@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Jim Gorycki) writes: > >A little Bio from _Sun-Sentinel_ >Torrey, the architect of four consecutive Stanley Cup champions as  >persident and general manager of the New York Islanders. >Throughout his 27 years in the NHL, Bill Torrey's bow ties have become >as much of a signature as Andre Agassi's hair. > >The Panthers will introduce a uniform, insignia, and ticket-price  >information in early next month.  In the meantime, Huizenga leaves the >day-to-day operation in the hands of Torrey and Bob Clarke, the VP and >GM. >  The San Jose Sharks and Ottawa Senators are each on their second GM already...I'd be willing to wager that both the Sharks and Senators will probably see their 3rd GM's and perhaps their 4th, before we see the Panthers second.
Everyone keeps talking about European expansion by 2010 thinking wishful thoughts, but being totally off the ball.  The league format we use here is incompatible with that in Europe. (for those that don't know, the best teams from lower divisions get promoted and the worst get demoted).  Would European fans put up with our "if you've paid, you can play"  attitude??  How long would they support teams that are run on Ranger-based  corporate thinking (I use the term lightly).  (We don't need a good product because these duffuses in NYC would fill the arena for Ottawa's record every year......1940!! haha (sorry, had ta say it)).  If hockey (and other pro sports) had a similar system to Europe, maybe teams like the Rangers would be forced to compete (or get demoted the fourth  division).  We'd have many more teams...centres that aren't as big (like Halifax or Adirondack....ok, so Halifax isn't a good example) would  eventually get promoted, and every team would be somewhat competetive within its own division (unlike Ottawa, SJ, Edmonton, etc.). Fans would eventually get rewarded for their loyalty (or penalized for their neglect), and the league would be more interesting and dynamic every year because of the influx of newly promoted teams (and the Halifax Citadels win the Stanley Cup...I can dream, can't I??)  Look at British (or any European) soccer as an example (they never have fan problems).  Just someone who thinks our system really sucks  Barfly  (feel free to flame me, my account ends today...hahahaha)
In article <1993Apr21.161633.25624@wuecl.wustl.edu> jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) writes: >  Buffalo is up 2-0 is the series with Boston, and the reason....Grant Fuhr ? >  Fuhr is playoff hungry, and he's proving once again why they call him >  money goaltender. Fuhr might not be one of the best goaltenders in the >  league anymore (Statistically at least), but he's proving that he can >  make the big save at the right time. >  The Leafs should have kept Fuhr, and probably would have had a chance  >  against powerhouse Detroit. But again.......where was Andreychoke in game 1?  I applauded the Sabres for making the deal to get Fuhr, specifically because I thought it would help them win at least one playoff series.  However, I don't think the Leafs can be faulted either...there is nothing to say that Felix won't be winning playoff series by himself in years to come.    Anyway, does anybody else find it ironic that Fuhr is up against Moog? (or at least he was until a guy named Alex showed up....:-) )
True rumor.  Fact!  A big three way deal!  Eric Lindros going to Ottawa Senators.  And Senators get $15mill from Montreal.  Montreal gets Alexander Daigle (the first round pick from Senators)  Philly gets Damphousse, Bellow, Patrick Roy and a draft pick.
Just a side note, squid/octopi made their way to the ice in Buffalo. I still don't understand why Buffalo, but maybe it's lucky.  :-)  btw, they shovel them up from the ice here, using the shovel used to scoop up the snow the zamboni leaves as it leaves the ice.  Although Blue did give some technical directions on its removal, motioning with his stick.
In article <1993Apr19.160356.19160@newshub.ists.ca>, dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes:   |> Ok, here's the solution to your problem.  Move to Canada.  Yesterday I was able |> to watch FOUR games...the NJ-PITT at 1:00 on ABC, LA-CAL at 3:00 (CBC),  |> BUFF-BOS at 7:00 (TSN and FOX), and MON-QUE at 7:30 (CBC).  I think that if |> each series goes its max I could be watching hockey playoffs for 40-some odd |> consecutive nights (I haven't counted so that's a pure guess).  The worst thing is that this is exactly what I did last year.  I had the Rangers on MSG, and the two different games on SCNY and SCA on at the same time.  Yes, I'd rather have SC cover it, just for the amount of coverage.    |> Btw, those ABC commentaters were great!  I was quite impressed; they seemed |> to know that their audience wasn't likely to be well-schooled in hockey lore |> and they did an excellent job.  They were quite impartial also, IMO.  I think Thorne earns his money.  The best part is that he is the same way when  he is earning his $$ from SportsChannel as the Devils announcer (i.e., unbiased).  He goes orgasmic for goals, despite which team scores, and even more  excited (if possible) for great saves.  He did a good job of explaining certain  things to non-hockey types without offending those of us who follow the sport (unlike NBC's clowns for the ASG).  -JPC  (Ob. Playoff-time flame-bait)        Don't any of you Pittsburgh fans tell me how Mike Lang(e) is better.        Maybe if he were a little spontaneous, rather than reading rehearsed       lines of B.S having nothing to do with hockey he would be better.  --
Could anyone recommend a mail order distributor for hockey equipment.  				Thanks in Advance 				Wayne
In article <1993Apr16.074054.3124@jyu.fi> mikkot@romulus.math.jyu.fi (Mikko Tarkiainen) writes:  >Coaching news:  > >	       Alpo Suhonen (ex-Jets) to Jokerit (now verified),  >               Boris Majorov (ex-Jokerit) to Tappara, >	       Vasili Tichonov (ex-Assat) to San Jose Sharks  >                                             (assistant coach), >	       Sakari Pietila to Lulea (silver team in Elite-serien)  Wow.  So that's probably the reason why current assistant coach Drew Ramenda hinted that he won't be back.  Thanks for the news, Mikko; can you (or any of our Finnish netters) comment on Tichonov?
In article <1993Apr22.232317.6924@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, kfrank@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kevin D Frank) writes: > I'm trying to get ahold of the directory assistance operator in Edmonton, but > I need the area code to do so.  If you know it, please e-mail me directly as > I have little time to scan through all the posts. >  > Much appreciated!!!  Geez, I didn't realize things were so bad at Ohio State that they can't afford phone books, or even operators.  This is probably Clinton's fault, isn't it...8^)  403.
In article <22APR93.25499311.0068@VM1.MCGILL.CA> JBE5 <JBE5@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> writes: >Manon Rheaume was on with Letterman in Sept. 1992.  Her English was >so terrible that Letterman took cheap shots at her.  Although the shots >were funny, they were uncalled for. >  Well, on the contrary, I thought Dave was rather taken with her and her accent..."(H)ockey is my passion"...