In article <1993Apr25.171003.10694@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> ahmeda@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Ahmed Abu-Abed) writes:     In article <HM.93Apr24133027@angell.cs.brown.edu>, hm@cs.brown.edu (Harry Mamaysky) writes:    |> In article <1483500354@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:    |>     |>    Final Solution for the Gaza ghetto ?    |>    ------------------------------------    |>     |>    While Israeli Jews fete the uprising of the Warsaw ghetto, they    |>    repress by violent means the uprising of the Gaza ghetto and    |>    attempt to starve the Gazans.    |>     |>    [...]    |>     |> The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto were fighting to keep themselves and    |> their families from being sent to Nazi gas chambers. Groups like Hamas    |> and the Islamic Jihad fight with the expressed purpose of driving all    |> Jews into the sea. Perhaps, we should persuade Jewish people to help       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    |> these wnderful "freedom fighters" attain this ultimate goal.    |>     |> Maybe the "freedom fighters" will choose to spare the co-operative Jews.    |> Is that what you are counting on, Elias - the pity of murderers.    |>     |> You say your mother was Jewish. How ashamed she must be of her son. I    |> am sorry, Mrs. Davidsson.    |>     |> Harry.     O.K., its my turn:  	  DRIVING THE JEWS INTO THE SEA ?!     I am sick and tired of this 'DRIVING THE JEWS INTO THE SEA' sentance attributed    to Islamic movements and the PLO; it simply can't be proven as part of their    plan !     (Pro Israeli activists repeat it like parrots without checking its authenticity    since it was coined by Bnai Brith)     What Hamas and Islamic Jihad believe in, as far as I can get from the Arab media,    is an Islamic state that protects the rights of all its inhabitants under Koranic    Law. This would be a reversal of the 1948 situation in which the Jews in    Palestine took control of the land and its (mostly Muslim) inhabitants.     However, whoever committed crimes against humanity (torture, blowing up their    homes, murders,...) must be treated and tried as a war criminal. The political    thought of these movements shows that a freedom of choice will be given to the    Jews in living under the new law or leaving to the destintion of their choice.     As for the PLO, I am at a loss to explain what is going inside Arafat's mind.     Although their political thinking seems far fetched with Israel acting as a true    super-power in the region, the Islamic movements are using the same weapon the    Jews used to establish their state : Religion.      Ahmed.  Forget the syntax, Ahmed, and focus on the semnatics. The fact is that the PLO does not recognize Israel's right to exist. This is perfectly obvious from the PLO covenant (Cairo, 1968). The covenant calls for the destruction of the "Zionist entity". As far as I know the Israel-destruction clauses still exist in the document which specifies the purpose for the existence of the PLO. If you would like, I can post the relevant caluses.  Now the Hamas ideal is far more radical, it seems. I know it has been posted here several times, and while I do not have a copy of it, I am sure that someone does and he (or she, of course) would be more than happy to repost it.  Regardless of phrasing, groups like Hamas, and the Hezbollah, and even the newly moderate and politically-correct PLO, have at the very heart of their ideologies the need for the destrcution of Israel.  It just seems to me that Mr. Davidsson's suggestion that Jews support people envolved in these organizations is not a particularly appealing one to many Jews.