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In article <1993Apr26.202714.4519@Virginia.EDU> rj3s@Virginia.EDU ("Get thee to a nunnery.....") writes:  >  I have never seen such immaturity among semitophiles.  This >Andi Beyer character shows no signs of anti semitism,   You obviously haven't read his postings clearly.  >The only >ones guilty here of not backing up there viewpoints with fact >are the Israelophiles.    Israelophiles?  Is this anything like Israelists?  You're treading on thin ice here.  >You all are an insult to you race!  Now, you're falling through the ice.  Barfie!  We have a playmate for you!   >	Now I have a comment concerning Israeli terrorism >during the 1930's and 1940's.  The Hirgun, and other branch - >off militant groups, did fight the British do get them out of >Palestine.  Yet I fail to see how this Israeli form of >terrorism was better than the terrorism practiced now by the >Arabs.    There is a difference between guerrilla warfare and terrorism. The former primarily targets enemy soldiers.  The latter primarily targets civilians, and not necessarily enemy civilans, at that.  >These Jewish terrorist groups killed innocent British >soldiers,   Innocent British soldiers?  Like innocent Iraqi soldiers? THe British were EXECUTING Jewish fighters in what was soon to become the recognized Jewish homeland.  The British - to their eternal shame and damnation - were sending shiploads of Jewish refugees, civilians, back to Europe to be taken care of by Hitler.  By comparison, Palestinean "fighters" primarily target tourists, schoolchildren, babies, worshippers, shoppers, movie-goers and other such threatening people.  Early Zionist fighters did no such things.  Your comparison is ignorant and odious.  >	I mention this not because I'm anti semitic [I'm part >Jewish] but because this self righteousness on the part of the >Israelites pisses me off so.    Does it bug you that the "Israelites" (they used to be Israelophiles...) happen to be right?  >I'm not as critical of the >Palestinians because they were indeed screwed over by the >Jews.    Are you kidding?  Palestinean Arabs - who comprise a tiny proportion  of the world's refugee population, who have almost no justifiable claim to the territory that they desire, who have acted as criminals in the international community for decades - are being treated like the most aggrieved and deserving minority in existence, even after their ignominious support for Saddam in Desert Storm.  How many other world "leaders" have addressed the UN with a machine-gun in hand, receiving a standing ovation?  >It 's a damn shame that the Palestinians had to pay for >German and European anti semitism.  You are now parrotting some of the weakest arguments of the terrorists' apologists.  Congratulations.  >				Pissed off at Immature, >                          Closeminded, Self righteous >				Semites  Gee, that's a nice name.  Can I call you Pissed?
In article <1stjjb$pep@transfer.stratus.com> khalid@bunce.hw.stratus.com (Khalid Chishti) writes: >For those of you who are against US to commit ground troops, fine just lift the arms-embargo on BOTH >sides (since we know that serbs always got the heavy weapons form federal army).  > >Wake up West!! and admit that you are the most uncivilized, the most hypocratic and the most violent >bunch on this earth... > > >-Khalid  It is also so easy to blame the West for their indiffernce to real Bosnian suffering.  How about the moslem world, about 1 billion? How about them ha?  What they are doing to stop this massacre?  Why the oil rich Arab states make the Bosnian crises  a national interest of the West, especially for Europeans?  We all  know they can do it over night, don't we? Blaming West and asking  why they don't put their life into danger seems to be the choice of  muslims too.  I think who is sleeping is not the West.  They are wide  awake.  They are trying to save the face.
In <1993Apr25.030936.21859@nysernet.org>, astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)  wrote: #  # "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@witsend.tnet.com> writes: #  # ># So Steve: Lets here, what IS zionism? #  # >  Assuming that you mean 'hear', you weren't 'listening': he just # >  told you, "Zionism is Racism."  This is a tautological statement. #  # I think you are confusing "tautological" with "false and misleading."    No, but you're right that I didn't express myself well.    The dialog went:     A: "Zionism is racism."    B: "What IS zionism?"   DC: "You weren't listening, were you?"    In other words, the first statement *defined* a Zionism of discourse.   Everything else was redundant.
In article <1sufneINNe4f@CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU> ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes: > >In article <1sueslINNa6g@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>, >jovanovic-nick@yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:  > >> "Muslim" in ex-Yugoslavia was a *nation* not a religion.  In fact, not >> all Muslims in B-H are followers of Islam.  Therefore, there do (did?) >> exist in ex-Yugoslavia "Christian Muslims."   > >Yeah!  That's it! :)  You've really outdone yourself this time Nick... >Don't forget the "Davidian Muslims"... :) > >Islam is not a race.  It's a religion.  You can be white, black, >Fijian or Alaskan.  I guess you didn't absorb too much of the Malcolm >X interest circulating.  You see, the whole point of Islam is that it >stresses equality amongst all peoples.  Now, I do realize this is >difficult for you to comprehend given your staunch beliefs in Serbian >ethnic cleansing, but give it a try, it's really not that difficult. >       Our white knight for Islam rides in again! Our instant expert on religion, race and ethnicity is at the door! Stand back all. Let  him through. He's going to single-handedly rescue Islam from all these dastardly mistakes, misquotes, misconceptions.  >> The war is not a religious war, and it is not an ethnic war.   > >That's right, it's a Disneyland war -- all a setup for the TV cameras. >There are also people who believe man never landed on the moon, that >the whole Apollo story was done in TV studios... > >> It is a >> civil war in which the terms of secession are being negotiated with guns >> instead of pens.  The Croat, Muslim, and Serb political leaders *all* >> chose to fight over the terms of secession instead of compromising and >> peacefully negotiating multilateral secession agreements.  > >Terms of secession?  You are, of course, joking, right Nick?  Nobody >*chose* to fight.  Bosnia and Croatia were *internationally* >recognized nations when the Serbs attacked and started on their >well-documented genocide.  That makes them an outside aggressor.  It's >a simple genocide, a classical example of ethnic cleansing.  There is >no question of civil war... > >-- Shakil
It seems that President Clinton can recognize Jerusalem as Israels capitol while still keeping his diplomatic rear door open by stating that the Parties concerned should decide the city's final status. Even as I endorse Clintons vie w (of course), it is definitely a matter to be decided upon by Israel (and other participating neighboring contries). I see no real conflict in stating both views, nor expect any better from politicians.
April 24th is approaching, and Armenians around the world are getting ready to remember the massacres of their family members by the Turkish government between 1915 and 1920.       At least 1.5 Million Armenians perished during that period, and it is important to note that those who deny that this event ever took place, either supported the policy of 1915 to exterminate the Armenians, or, as we have painfully witnessed in Azerbaijan, would like to see it happen again...     Thank you for taking the time to read this post.
In article <C5n43z.Dq2@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jar2e@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Virginia's Gentleman) writes:     This post has all the earmarks of a form program, where the user types in    a nationality or ethnicity and it fills it in in certain places in the story.     If this is true, I condemn it. If it's a fabrication, then the posters have    horrible morals and should be despised by everyone on tpm who values truth.     Jesse  Agreed.
In article <1993Apr15.152424.5899@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil.Idriss:) writes: > >Arab leaders don't have to cheat, they are actually allowed to have four wives. >Are you implying above that Arab leaders are gays? Aren't there Jewish gays too?  Arab leaders are now following by Islamic rules?  (Or is it only applicable in cases like this?)  :-  I remember an article of about a year ago which stated that besides his wife, Saddam also has a mistress.  Assad's brother has a wife and *several* mistresses, and those 'emirs' in the Gulf have, within their lifetimes, wives in the double digitas (only they manage to keep four at a time).   This is all irrelevant.  It takes a *lot* more than infidelity to make these leaders ruthless and corrupt.  Maybe Netanyahu thought he could 'cleanse' himself by making such a public confession.  Does the average secular Israeli care, though?  The Mossad probably applauded him.  :-)
> Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH  > Lines: 13  > NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu  >   >   > dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:  >   > >Our little Goebbels, to those who forgot, is talking about an alleged  > >"infection" of "fine Egyptian men", by a "Mossad agent caught spying  > >with her father in Egypt". As noted before, the women is a Muslim  > >Israeli, she was not a spy, and she didn't infect anybody.  >   > The Jewish version of the story!!  >   > "A Muslim Israeli."  I thought it is a Jewish State.  > Hasn't it yet been defined up to this point?  >        This is a post from a hospital?  The inmates from foam the cushion ward   have net access!
Face it Mr. Beyer, you're just outmatched by us Israeli intellectuals.  Any attempts to defend the deceitful, undeserving Palestinians will prove fruitless!
Yarn of Cargo of Human Bones [1] 	 		Copyright, 1924, by the New York Times Company 			Special Cable to The New York Times     PARIS, Dec 22, -- Marseilles is excited by a weird story of the arrival in that port of a ship flying the British flag and named Zan carrying a mysterious cargo of 400 tons of human bones consigned to manufacturers there. The bones are said to have been loaded at Mudania on the Sea of Marmora and to be the remains of the victims of massacres in Asia Minor. In view of the rumors circulating it is expected that an inquiry will be instigated.  			- - - Reference - - -  [1] _New York Times_, December 23, 1924, page 3, column 2 (bottom)  			- - - - - - - - - - - -  On the 78th Commemorative Anniversary of the Turkish genocide of the Armenians, we remember those whose only crime was to be Armenian in the shadow of an  emerging Turkish proto-fascist state. In their names we demand justice.  In April 1915, the Turkish government began a systematically executed  de-population of the eastern Anatolian homeland of the Armenians through a  genocidal extermination. This genocide was to insure that Turks exclusively ruled over the geographic area today called the Republic of Turkey. The  result: 1.5 million murdered, 30 billion dollars of Armenian property stolen and plundered. This genocide ended nearly 3,000 years of Armenian civilization on those lands. Today, the Turkish government continues to scrape clean any vestige of a prior Armenian existence on those lands. Today's Turkish governmental policy is to re-write the history of the era, to manufacture distortion and generate excuses for their genocide of the Armenian people. In  the face of refutation ad nauseam, the Turkish Historical Society and cronies  shamelessly continue to deny that any such genocide occurred. This policy  merely demonstrates that in the modern era, genocide is an effective state  policy when it remains un-redressed and un-punished. A crime unpunished is a  crime encouraged. Adolf Hitler took this cue less than 25 years after the  successful genocide of the Armenians.  Turkey claims there was no systematic deportation of Armenians, yet... Armenians were removed from every city, town, and village in the whole of  Turkey! Armenians who resisted deportation and massacre are referred to as  "rebels".  Turkey claims there was no genocide of the Armenians, yet...Turkish population figures today show zero Armenians in eastern Turkey, the Armenian homeland.  Turkey claims Armenians were always a small minority, yet...Turkey claims  Armenians were a "threat".  In a final insult to the victims, the Republic of Turkey sold the bones of  approximately 100,000 murdered Armenians for profit to Europe.  Today, the Turkish government is enjoying the fruits of that genocide. The success of this genocide is hangs over the heads of Turkey's Kurdish population.  The Armenians demand recognition, reparation, return of Armenian land and property lost as a result of this genocide.  ARMENIANS DEMAND JUSTICE                              ERMENILER ADALET ISTIYOR
From: Center for Policy Research <cpr> Subject: Rabin and his Palestinians kapos   Rabin's plans for a Palestinian police  (from The Other Front, Alternative Information Center, Jerusalem, 5 May 1993)  "The decision to view the setting up of a local police force  for (sic) the Palestinians as the central issue for  deliberation at the peace talks to be resumed next week -  even before subjects like elections in the territories and  areas of juridiction in the framework of autonomy - is a  sign of the Israeli government's serious attitude towards  the peace process.  "The setting up of a police force is not part of the 'gesture  package', but deals with the very heart and substance of  the Palestinian struggle for national identity. As it turns  out, the main objective guiding the prime minister in the  setting up of a Palestinian police force - and apparently  also supported by Foreign Minister Shimon Peres - is to  ensure the holding of democratic elections in the  territories."  Thus writes Amnon Barzilai in his editorial (Israeli daily  Hadashot, 23 April), and his position articulates the  thinking of most of the commentators who dealt with this  issue in the past two weeks. Over against them stand the  settlers and rightwing parties, who also interpret the  decision to encourage the establishment of a Palestinian  police force as a significant step towards the instituting of  real autonomy, something which will restrict what can be  done by the Jewish settlers in the West Bank and Gaza  Strip. With a variety of demonstrations, including street  theater on 'What will happen when there is a Palestinian  police force', rightwing elements are attempting to  frighten the Israeli public and to pressure Rabin to go  back on his decision. Members of the Kach movement  have even begun to organize a 'settler police force' in the  Occupied Territories, as counter-balance to the future  Palestinian police force.  However, as Barzilai points out, the main function of the  new police force - as far as the Israeli government is  concerned - has nothing to do with the settlers, over  whom they will apparently have no authority, but will  control political groups within the Palestinian population,  whom the government is interested in neutralizing.  Writes Barzilai:  "...According to ideas currently taking shape, the setting  up of a local police force in the territories will precede,  not only the stage of electsion, but also the final stages of  the preparing of the interim autonomy agreement.  "The willingness of the Israeli government to set up a  local Palestinian police force is evidence that the  government is serious about arriving at a settlement with  the Palestinians..."  It's no wonder that the Palestinian public is also greatly  worried about this new Israeli initiative. And it is  inevitable that pressure will be brought to bear on Faisal  Husseini and the rest of the delegation members, from a  variety of directions, to refuse the gift which Rabin would  like to give them. But at this stage, it looks like the  Palestinians are cooperating in the fulfillment of his  plans.
In article <48299@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ma170saj@sdcc14.ucsd.edu (System Operator) writes:  >or, as we have painfully witnessed in Azerbaijan, would like to see  >it happen again...  Is this the joke of the month?   1. Your fascist grandparents exterminated 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914 and 1920.  2. Your Nazi parents fully participated in the extermination of the European Jewry during WWII.  3. Your criminal cousins have been slaughtering Muslim women, children and elderly people in fascist x-Soviet Armenia and Karabag for the last  four years.  The entire population of x-Soviet Armenia now, as a result of the  Genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people, are Armenians.   For nearly one thousand years, the Turkish and Kurdish people  lived on their homeland - the last one hundred under the  oppressive Soviet and Armenian occupation. The persecutions culminated in 1914: The Armenian Government planned and carried  out a Genocide against its Muslim subjects. 2.5 million Turks  and Kurds were murdered and the remainder driven out of their  homeland. After one thousand years, Turkish and Kurdish lands  were empty of Turks and Kurds.   The survivors found a safe heaven in Turkiye.  Today, x-Soviet Armenian government rejects the right of Turks and  Kurds to return to their Muslim lands occupied by x-Soviet Armenia.  Today, x-Soviet Armenian government covers up the genocide perpetrated  by its predecessors and is therefore an accessory to this crime against  humanity.  x-Soviet Armenian government must pay for their crime of genocide  against the Muslims by admitting to the crime and making reparations  to the Turks and Kurds.  Turks and Kurds demand the right to return to their lands, to determine  their own future as a nation in their own homeland.  During the 78th Anniversary, we come once again reiterate the unity of the Muslim People, the timelessness of the Turkish and Kurdish Demands and the desire to pursue the struggle for that restitution - a struggle that unites all Turks and Kurds.  Today, we appeal to all Turkish and Kurdish people in the United  States and Canada to participate en masse in the Commemorative  Events, be they cultural, political or religious.   Serdar Argic
In article <C6x81M.EJF@news.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes: >(mohamed.s.sadek) writes: >> >>I like what Mr. Joseph Biden had to say yesterday 5/11/93 in the senate. >> >>Condemening the european lack of action and lack of support to us plans  >>and calling that "moral rape". >> >>He went on to say that the reason for that is "out right religious BIGOTRY" > >Actually, this strife in Yugoslavia goes back a long way. Bosinan Muslims, >in collaboration with the Nazis, did to Serbians after the first world >war what Serbs are doing to Muslims now. This is not a fresh case of >ethnic cleansing but just another chapter in the continuing saga >of intense mutual hatred, destruction,... Not taking sides in this >perpetual war does not amount to religious bigotry. It could just >be helplessness with regards to bringing peace to a region that does >not even know the meaning of the word. > >Satya Prabhakar >--  Yeah right, sorta like the Indian sub-contient, eh?
In article <734048492@locust.cs.duke.edu> wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Eduard Wiener) writes:  >	  Sure it joined you by ballot in 1918!  And I suppose that >	  Northern Bukovina (where I was born), which has always had  That's why zoologists refer to you as a 'fecal shield'. Colonel Semen  M. Budienny, a subsequent Soviet military fame, said about the  Armenian genocide of 2.5 million defenseless Turkish and Kurdish  women, children and elderly people during his visit to Anatolia  in June 1919 that  "the Armenians had become troublemakers, their Hinchakist  and Dashnakist parties were opportunist, serving as lackeys  of whatever power happened to be ascendent."  In September 16, 1920, Major General W. Thwaites, Director of Military Intelligence, wrote to Lord Hardinge, Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs:  "...it is useless to pretend that the Armenians are satisfactory  allies, or deserving of all the sympathy to which they claim."[1]  [1] F.O. 331/3411/158288.  In the Special Collection at Stanford Hoover Library, donated by Georgia Cutler, the letter dated Nov. 1, 1943 states that  "Prescot Hall wrote a large volume to prove that Armenians were  not and never could be desirable citizens, that they would   always be unscrupulous merchants."   Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).         "Document No: 50," Archive No: 4/3621, Cabin No: 162, Drawer          No: 5, File No: 2905, Section No: 433, Contents No: 6, 6-1, 6-2.         (To 36th Division Command - Militia Commander Ismail Hakki)  "For eight days, Armenians have been forcibly obstructing people from  leaving their homes or going from one village to the other. Day and night  they are rounding up male inhabitants, taking them to unknown destinations,  after which nothing further is heard of them. (Informed from statements  of those who succeeded in escaping wounded from the massacres around  Taskilise ruins). Women and children are being openly murdered or are  being gathered in the Church Square and similar places. Most inhuman and  barbarous acts have been committed against Moslems for eight days."           "Document No: 52," Archive No: 4/3671, Cabin No: 163, Drawer          No: 1, File No: 2907, Section No: 440, Contents No: 6-6, 6-7.         (To: 1st Caucasian Army Corps Command, 2nd Caucasian Army Corps         Command, Communications Zone Inspectorate - Commander 3rd Army         General)  "As almost all Russian units opposite our front have been withdrawn, the  population loyal to us in regions behind the Russian positions are  facing an ever-increasing threat and suppression as well as cruelties  and abuses by Armenians who have decided to systematically annihilate  the Moslem population in regions under their occupation. I have   regularly informed the Russian Command of these atrocities and  cruelties and I have gained the impression that the above authority  seems to be failing in restoring order."   Serdar Argic