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In <C6r5Gn.3zH@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> mukut@alioth.cc.nps.navy.mil (Devadatta Mukutmoni) writes:  >In article <C6qprs.6Hw@world.std.com> tti@world.std.com (Joachim Martillo) writes: >>heap).  Similarly, Malaysia was founded on the original sins of >>support for the axis and anti-Chinese racism on the part of >>intellectuals opposed to the heritage of Enlightenment. >>  >This is really a strange target for Martillo. Malaysia has fully >vindicated itself since it shed its colonial yoke. It is a legitimate >economic success story. Its success may not be as dramatic  as Japan >and Singapore; nevertheless it has fully vindicated itself. So,  >advocating Anglo-colonialism is ludicrous for Malaysia. Next, I  >suppose you will be advocating recolonization of China which is  >probably experiencing one the greatest sustained economic booms in >the history of Mankind.   >  >>>Do you think present day England is in a position to set the stage for any >>>more colonization.  They will be lucky if they can keep intact what they >>>have.   >> >>With US assistance and proper agreements, redeployment of the British >>and French colonial empires would not be hard.  Primitive 3rd world >>elites who resist and who incite resistance among their deluded, >>brainwashed and essentially enslaved populations would get the Iraq >>treatment. >>  >Dream on. They are having problems even with deploying ground troops >in Bosnia. Public opinion dictates that loss of lives (even in  >miniscule quantities), cannot be tolerated in the rich countries.  >This is really wierd. If you come to think of it, the armed forces are >paid to basically to accept the risk of dying. If that danger is removed,  >it then has to be viewed as welfare on a grand scale. But, that is exactly >what the public is saying.   >The Iraqi operation lead to an extraordinary low level of casualties. >This is an anomaly. A combination of Iraqi incompetence and desert terrain.  >Any future operation would lead to more casualties. For example the  >bombing in Beirut lead to more GI deaths than the whole of Desert Storm.  >  >>Do you really think that scum like Nehru ever asked themselves whether >>the vast majority of Indians would be better off under British or >>local rule?  Nehru was driven by a crude desire for power. >>Nationalism was just the vehicle whereby Indian nationalists persuaded >>a lot of poor deluded fools to die in order to give a small elite the >>power to exploit other Indians. >>  >You obviously have some information that the rest of us are not >aware of. Otherwise, it is impossible to draw such outrageous conclusions.   >Devadatta Santos Francois Peter Mustafa HuangHua Mukutmoni *********************************************************************  That's cool; I wish everyone had the smae kind of names; the world would certainly be a better place!!
In article <1sredr$72b@venus.haverford.edu> Michael Sells <m_sells@haverford.edu> writes:  > ... I find it interesting that Mr. Major finds the genocide of two >million Muslims in Bosnia acceptable ...     Now you are actually claiming that 2,000,000 Muslims have been killed in B-H???  Please substantiate this utterly ridiculous claim.
In article <1993Apr21.181628.23279@news.columbia.edu> ayr1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Amir Y Rosenblatt) writes: >In article <1993Apr19.214951.19180@bnr.ca> zbib@bnr.ca writes:  >It was shafting on the part of the Arab land owners for doing it  >without notifying their tenant farmers and for not being responsible  >enough to make provisions for them, but rather just leaving >them to their fate.  If a landlord sells an apartment building "vacant" to another landlord and fails to notify his tenants, they just might find themselves out on the street all of a sudden.  The seller may be a scoundrel and a crook but this doesn't make the buyer a "thief", as Israelis are so often called here on tpm.  >>It is interesting though that you acknowledge that the >>palestinians were shafted. Do many Israelis or Jews share >>your opinion ?  Do you  absolve the purchaser from >>any ethical commitments just because it wasn't written down?  > >I don't know if others share this opinion.  It is mine, >and I'm sure there are some who agree and some who don't >The way I see it, the fallahin were caught in circumstances  >beyond their control, in that since they didn't own the land, >they didn't have a say. Of course, now for the sake of the "greater  >Arab unity" the Arabs are angry that the land was sold to the Jews >(an act that is illegal in Jordan), but when it happened, it was just  >business.     The Arabs that lived along the coast in Western Palestine, later to be called Israel, were shafted by their brother Arabs just as they've been shafted for decades since then by their Arab bretheren.  Somehow, though, the Arab call has continued to blame Israel, not only for the Syrian landowner sell-out in Western Palestine (Israel) but even for the occupation of Eastern Palestine (Jordan) by the Hashemites.  This is just more of refusing to take blame for one's own actions.  >>infra-structure etc...). IMHO the Palestinians have grounds >>to contest the legality of the purchase, say in world court.  If your job was eliminated in a corporate takeover, you could probably go to court, too.  You'd probably lose, though.
In article <30976@galaxy.ucr.edu> raffi@watnxt08.ucr.edu (Raffi R Kojian) writes:  >Serdar,  The above explained propaganda which certainly has nothing to do with  the true facts is also today the main source of ASALA/SDPA/ARF terrorists' illegal activities that still try to make money out of the bodies of  the innocent victims of the Turkish genocide.  The criminal acts of the x-Soviet Armenian Government come directly under the scope of the Convention on Genocide adopted by the General  Assembly of the United Nations on December 8, 1948, containing the  following provisions:  The Contracting Parties, having considered the declaration made  by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution 95 (1) dated December 11, 1946, that genocide is a crime under international law, contrary to the spirit and aims of the United Nations and condemned by the civilized world;  Recognizing that in all periods of history genocide has inflicted great losses on humanity; and  Being convinced that, in order to liberate mankind from such odious scourge, international cooperation is required;  Members agree as hereinafter provided:  Article 1. The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under  international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.  Article 2. In the present Convention genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as  such:  A) Killing member of the group; B) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; C) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life     calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole     or in part; D) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; E) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group;  Article 3. The following acts shall be punishable:  a) Genocide b) Conspiracy to commit genocide c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide d) Attempt to commit genocide.  Article 4. Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in Article 3 shall be punished, whether they are constitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private individuals.  Had the Convention on Genocide existed before the Armenian  massacres of the Turks and Kurds, it would probably have been  difficult for the x-Soviet Armenian Government and its responsibles to start murdering of civilian, defenseless, faithful Ottoman citizens, children and women, (GENOCIDE AND ATTEMPT TO GENOCIDE), to make plans to exterminate, as they have done also to Urartus and Jews, faithful Ottoman citizens (CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT GENOCIDE),  to incite Armenians to armed revolt against the legal authority and to commit Genocide, (DIRECT AND PUBLIC INCITEMENT TO COMMIT GENOCIDE).  Serdar Argic
tsiel writes:  >If indeed Israeli soldiers killed a "Hamas Mujahid" with an anti-tank missile >then I'm almost sure that the "terrorist zionists" would not have been able >to cut up a body which was probably desintegrated by the missile.  maybe the missile didn't hit directly such that his body gets "desintegrated."  of course, destroying 10 houses to kill someone is not a surgical operation, or is it?
In article <1483500355@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:  >From: Center for Policy Research <cpr> > >Zionism and the Holocaust >-------------------------- by Haim Bresheeth > >The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history >of the Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without >anti-semitism is impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet >of anti-Semitism, namely that Jews cannot live with non- Jews.  	Wrong.  Zionism *acknowledges* the fact that anti-Semites exist, and prevent Jews from living in peace.  That does not mean we agree that Jews are all greedy, that Jews kill Christian Children, commited deicide, or anything else.  We acknowledge that there are morons out there who do believe these things.  Adam    Adam Shostack 				       adam@das.harvard.edu
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University Keywords:   In article <93111.225707PP3903A@auvm.american.edu> Paul H. Pimentel <PP3903A@auvm.american.edu> writes: >What gives Isreal the right to keep Jeruseleum?  It is the home of >the muslim a s well as jewish religion, among others.  	Israel has a right to keep Jerusalem for many reasons.  They include the fact that the majority of the citizens are Israeli, the fact that Israel maintains religious freedom for all people, and the historical connection of Judaism to Jerusalem.  	When Jerusalem was devided by a Jordanian invasion in 1948, the cease fire agreement included the right of individuals to visit religious shrines.  This cease fire agreement was violated by Jordan, who did not allow Jews to visit holy sites under their control.  The Jordanians also bulldozed every synagoge in the city.  They turned a Jewish cemetary into a hotel, and used the gravestones in their latrines.  	Israel has allowed individuals of all religions into Jerusalem, protected holy sites, and demonstrated its fitness to control the city.  	Also, I should point out that Islam is not centered in Jerusalem, but has holy sites there.  The home of Islam is Mecca, where all Muslims should make a pilgramage (the hajj).  Unlike Israeli Jerusalem, Jews and Christians are not allowed in Saudi Mecca.  Adam  Adam Shostack 				       adam@das.harvard.edu
In article <Apr15.175334.72079@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes:  [most of Brads post deleted.]  >we have come to accept and deal with, the Lebanese Resistance >on the other hand is not going to stop its attacks on OCCUPYING  >ISRAELI SOLDIERS until they withdraw, this is the only real  >leverage that they have to force Israel to withdraw.  	Tell me, do these young men also attack Syrian troops?   >with the blood of its soldiers.  If Israel is interested in peace, >than it should withdraw from OUR land.  	There must be a guarantee of peace before this happens.  It seems that many of these Lebanese youth are unable to restrain themselves from violence, and unable to to realize that their actions prolong Israels stay in South Lebanon.  	If the Lebanese army was able to maintain the peace, then Israel would not have to be there.  Until it is, Israel prefers that its soldiers die rather than its children.   >If Israel really wants to save some Israeli lives it would withdraw  >unilaterally from the so-called "Security Zone" before the conclusion >of the peace talks.  Such a move would save Israeli lives, >advance peace efforts, give Israel a great moral lift, better Israel's  >public image abroad and give it an edge in the peace negociations  >since Israel can rightly claim that it is genuinely interested in  >peace and has already offered some important concessions.  	Israel should withdraw from Lebanon when a peace treaty is signed.  Not a day before.  Withdraw because of casualties would tell the Lebanese people that all they need to do to push Israel around is kill a few soldiers.  Its not gonna happen.  >Along with such a withdrawal Israel could demand that Hizbollah >be disarmed by the Lebanese government and warn that it will not  >accept any attacks against its northern cities and that if such a >shelling occurs than it will consider re-taking the buffer zone >and will hold the Lebanese and Syrian government responsible for it.   	Why should Israel not demand this while holding the buffer zone?  It seems to me that the better bargaining position is while holding your neighbors land.  If Lebanon were willing to agree to those conditions, Israel would quite probably have left already. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that the Lebanese can disarm the Hizbolah, and maintain the peace.  Adam Adam Shostack 				       adam@das.harvard.edu
Andi Beyer writes:  >         What is a shame is that in Austria, daily reports of > the inhuman acts commited by Israeli soldiers and the blessing > received from the Government makes some of the Holocaust guilt > go away. After all, look how the Jews are treating other races > when they got power. It is unfortunate. >        This can be turned around.  The Austrians who should feel guilty about  their actions during WWII, but don't, justify their anti-semetism by making  every Israeli action into an atrocity.  The Austrians, Germans and other  Europeans have extensive trading relations with the Arab block; being   pro-Arab is good for business.  I don't think that ethics has a thing to  do about it.
Ilyess Bdira writes:   >>The Islamic world dreams of being the whole planet, but not by kicking >the current inhabitant out, we rather deam of the day everybody converts. >If Jews had the same dream, I would not feel threatened a bit.   So I should be very comfortable that 500,000,000 people want to convert me to Islam. Or, to convert me to ANYTHING.   There are many types of violence, physical murder is only one.  'Trying' to convert is an insult. It's like trying to tell me that me and/or my God/my lack of God are just crap, that I need a new, 'converted' one.  This does not apply for muslims only, of course. Same for jews and for some friendly, nicely dressed neighbours who show on sunday with empty speaches and cheap booklets about some church ....  And when the objective is (I think, however that you are wrong) to convert  everybody, it's just a matter of time when violence will occur.   Aren't we able to learn anything from thouthands of years of 'conversion related violence' ?   Why not let 'the other, more inferiour' people live as they wish and take care  your business?. You do assume that they are inferiour (or their beliefs are) as long as you want to change their thinking.
12/12 Armenian Atrocities      MOSCOW (AP) -- Azerbaijani forces on Saturday retook three villages seized by Armenians and discovered 16 bodies of executed civilians, Azerbaijani reports said.    The Azerbaijani fighters found 16 bodies of civilians, including those of a child and two elderly women who were shot point-blank, "and survivors were killed by a shot to the back of the head," said a ministry statement, carried by the Azerbaijani Azerinform and Turan news agencies and the ITAR-Tass news service.    "Everywhere Armenian occupants were, they left tens of corpses of civilians shot to death point-blank and mutilated," the...   Serdar Argic
nstramer@supergas.dazixco.ingr.com (Naftaly Stramer) writes: :  :                      THE HAMAS WAY of DEATH :   :      (Following is a transcript of a recruitment and training : videotape made last summer by the Qassam Battalions, the military  As opposed to Israel's many ways of death. Using bombers and artillery against Lebanese towns and villages. Using fire arms and lethal variants of tear gas and *rubber coated* bullets against stone throwers. Using tanks and anti-tank missiles against homes after a 5 minute evacuation warning.  Using Shin Bit's "reasonable" physical pressure in interrogation. And more. Not counting of course past  practices such as the bombardment of Beirut in 1982, the bombing of the  Egyptian school of Bahr-El-Bakar and the Abu-Za'bal factory in 1978, the downing of the Libyan airliner full of Egyptian passengers near the same time. Overseeing the Maronite massacre in Sabra and Shatilla. That is of course besides numerous massacres by Irgun and other gangs during the British mandate period.  Ironically the same Op-Ed page in the NYT times from which the Naftaly copied this article was running another article next to it by A.M. Rosenthall blaming Bosnian Muslims for their own genocide by effectively saying that it is stupid to seek independence if independence will bring your people slaughter. But what else would one expect from Mr. Rosenthall who never wasted a chance to bash Arabs or Muslims.
In article <C5I7J7.F7A@eis.calstate.edu>, mafifi@eis.calstate.edu (Marc A Afifi) writes:  |> Don't forget that it was the French Resistance to the |> Nazi occupying forces which eventually succeeded in driving out the |> hostile occupiers in WWII.  Actually, this is incorrect.  French resistance may have played some part in hindering the German war effort, however the crucial role was supplied on D-Day.  |> Diplomacy has not worked with Israel and the |> Lebanese people are tired of being occupied! They are now turning to the |> only option they see as viable. (Don't forget that it worked in driving |> out the US)  Interesting statement.  Especially when you consider that Lebanon had claimed to have made progress in the peace talks, as well as Israel.  Of course, one of the prime obstacles to Israel's complete withdrawal is the lack of governmental control that can be applied to the area as well as the large presence of Syrian forces which have not been asked to withdraw as well.
From article <1993Apr15.092101@IASTATE.EDU>, by tankut@IASTATE.EDU (Sabri T Atan): > Well, Panos, Mr. Tamamidis?, the way you put it it is only the Turks > who bear the responsibility of the things happening today. That is hard to > believe for somebody trying to be objective. > When it comes to conflicts like our countries having you cannot > blame one side only, there always are bad guys on both sides. > What were you doing on Anatolia after the WW1 anyway? > Do you think it was your right to be there?  There were a couple millions of Greeks living in Asia Minor until 1923. Someone had to protect them. If not us who??  > I am not saying that conflicts started with that. It is only > not one side being the aggressive and the ither always suffering. > It is sad that we (both) still are not trying to compromise. > I remember the action of the Turkish government by removing the > visa requirement for greeks to come to Turkey. I thought it > was a positive attempt to make the relations better. >  Compromise on what, the invasion of Cyprus, the involment of Turkey in Greek politics, the refusal of Turkey to accept 12 miles of territorial waters as stated by international law, the properties of the Greeks of  Konstantinople, the ownership of the islands in the Greek lake,sorry, Aegean.  There are some things on which there can not be a compromise.   > The Greeks I mentioned who wouldn't talk to me are educated > people. They have never met me but they know! I am bad person > because I am from Turkey. Politics is not my business, and it is > not the business of most of the Turks. When it comes to individuals  > why the hatred?  Any person who supports the policies of the Turkish goverment directly or indirecly is a "bad" person. It is not your nationality that makes you bad, it is your support of the actions of your goverment that make you "bad". People do not hate you because of who you are but because of what you are. You are a supporter of the policies of the Turkish goverment and as a such you must pay the price.  > So that makes me think that there is some kind of > brainwashing going on in Greece. After all why would an educated person  > treat every person from a nation the same way? can you tell me about your  > history books and things you learn about Greek-Turkish > encounters during your schooling.  > take it easy!  >  > -- > Tankut Atan > tankut@iastate.edu >  > "Achtung, baby!"  You do not need brainwashing to turn people against the Turks. Just talk to Greeks, Arabs, Slavs, Kurds and all other people who had the luck to be under Turkish occupation. They will talk to you about murders,rapes,distruction.  You do not learn about Turks from history books, you learn about them from people who experienced first hand Turkish friendliness.
ab4z@Virginia.EDU  writes: > 	A few things about the University. It is more fun than some may > admit. Partying does go on and it has consistently been ranked > one of Playboy's top party schools. But we do study and more > importantly learn a lot. The overall UVa drug use is actually > lower than the average college in the U.S.  > 	There is no hate law on the books even though they (The > forces of PC) tried to have one last year( by the way a similar > law at the University of Wisconsin ? was found unconstitutional > last year). There is a law > against relationship of professors with their students or > advisees that just passed.  > 	Thomas Jefferson was the sole author of the Virginia > statute for religious freedom(the basis for the first ten > amendments), though he is not given full credit for righting                                                       ^^^^^^^^ > the bill of rights. So someone who picked on me for that is > right.  > 	By the way, we're the man in everything. Sports > academics and partying. I'm sure a lot of other schools are > good at what they do as well, so don't start mailing me junk. > I'm happy where I am and maybe I'll go to one of y'alls medical > schools in a couple of years. 	Oh my god. My spelling and grammer suck. I guess I need some sleep. I said righting (instead of writing). What's the chance of that. Thank god I caught it before everyone started picking on it. I hope I didn't cause Mr.Jefferson too much shame.