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cs902043@ariel.yorku.ca (SHAWN LUDDINGTON) writes:  >As for the picks >Ottawa picks #1 which means it is almost 100% that Alexander Daigle will  >go #1. He'll either stay or be traded in Montreal or Quebec.  I dunno about hat. I have friends up there on GEnie who are now saying that Ottawa's gone soft on Daigle and is thinking hard about Pronger. Daigle has shown an Attitude the latter part of this season many folks havne't liked, and after coming back from his (second) multi-game suspension for being stupid, he's really tanked in his performance. His stock is dropping like a rock.   Also remember that a lot of teh "draft 1st" stuff comes from the assumption he'll be traded to Quebec for lots of prospects. It's not clear that  Quebec would really be willing to pay a lot for him given his current status. He's still first round, but I don't consider him a first pick lock by any means at this point.  It's also possible that the Senators are posturing to try to bring down his signing price, since Daigle has been taking some Lindros lessons during thos suspensions.  >IMO I would >take Kariya.  He should alot of leadership in the NCAA and so far in >the World Championships.  Daigle didn't show this for his junior team.  >San Jose will then get Kariya.  No. Kariya won't go in the first three, for a very simple reason: he's not leaving college, and I don't believe ANY of the expansion teams are going to use a first for someone who won't be around for another year or two, not when there is equally good (or almost as good) stuff available that can make an immediate impact. San jose seems to be leaning heavily towards Niedermayer for that reason. Kariya could go 6th or 7th, unless a team can convince him to leave school early (which I doubt).   My cut on things as they stand today:  >Draft Order >----------- >1) Ottawa (60% Daigle, if not, 40% Pronger) >2) San Jose 80% Niedermayer, unless Ottawa skips Daigle. Then it's open. 	(it depends on if the Sharks can get a deal for him. I don't 	believe they draft him to keep him). >3) Tampa Bay (whoever Ottawa doesn't take, or maybe Koslov)
vzhivov@superior.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov) writes:  >Flames final score:  >Calgary 9 - L.A. 4  >Things are back to where they belong. Gretzky didn't play. Kelly >Hrudey is his old self again. Let's hope the Flames put the old-timers >away ASAP.  >- Vlad the Impaler  Yes, these last couple of months the Kinngs have failed to show up in about one game in five. Presumably last night was that one game in five.
Does anyone out there have the shorthanded goal totals of the NHL players for this season?  We're trying to finish our rotisserie stats and need SHG to make it complete.
Toronto                          1 1 1--3 Detroit                          1 4 1--6 First period      1, Detroit, Yzerman 1 (Gallant, Ciccarelli) 4:48.      2, Toronto, Cullen 1 (Clark, Gill) 10:44. Second period      3, Detroit, Sheppard 1 (Probert, Coffey) pp, 5:04.      4, Detroit, Burr 1 (Racine) sh, 6:42.      5, Detroit, Chiasson 1 (Coffey) pp,11:00.      6, Detroit, Howe 1 (Yzerman, Drake) 14:46.      7, Toronto, Gilmour 1 (Borschevsky, Ellett) pp, 19:59. Third period      8, Detroit, Racine 1 (Primeau, Drake) 5:10.      9, Toronto, Lefebvre 1 (Cullen, Pearson) 7:45.  Detroit: 6    Power play: 6-2   Special goals:  pp: 2  sh: 1  Total: 3 Scorer            G    A   Pts ---------------  ---  ---  --- Burr               1    0    1 Chiasson           1    0    1 Ciccarelli         0    1    1 Coffey             0    2    2 Drake              0    2    2 Gallant            0    1    1 Howe               1    0    1 Primeau            0    1    1 Probert            0    1    1 Racine             1    1    2 Sheppard           1    0    1 Yzerman            1    1    2  Toronto: 3    Power play: 5-1 Scorer            G    A   Pts ---------------  ---  ---  --- Borschevsky        0    1    1 Clark              0    1    1 Cullen             1    1    2 Ellett             0    1    1 Gill               0    1    1 Gilmour            1    0    1 Lefebvre           1    0    1 Pearson            0    1    1  ----------------------------------------- Winnipeg                         1 0 1--2 Vancouver                        2 0 2--4 First period      1, Vancouver, Adams 1 (Linden, Bure) pp, 1:23.      2, Vancouver, Craven 1 (Bure, Murzyn) 9:56.      3, Winnipeg, Steen 1 (Shannon, Housley) pp, 17:53. Second period      No scoring. Third period      4, Winnipeg, King 1 (Barnes) 3:43.      5, Vancouver, Linden 1(Courtnall, McLean) 12:16.      6, Vancouver, Ronning 1 (Courtnall) 18:31.  Vancouver: 4    Power play: 6-1 Scorer            G    A   Pts ---------------  ---  ---  --- Adams              1    0    1 Bure               0    2    2 Courtnall          0    2    2 Craven             1    0    1 Linden             1    1    2 McLean             0    1    1 Murzyn             0    1    1 Ronning            1    0    1  Winnipeg: 2    Power play: 3-1 Scorer            G    A   Pts ---------------  ---  ---  --- Barnes             0    1    1 Housley            0    1    1 King               1    0    1 Shannon            0    1    1 Steen              1    0    1
In article <1revcrINNeij@shelley.u.washington.edu> lzuo@byron.u.washington.edu (Joseph) writes: >In article <randolin.6.735770247@polisci.umn.edu> randolin@polisci.umn.edu (Robert Andolina) writes: >>Many people have suggested that Fuhr's play is the only reason that the  >>Sabres beat the Bruins.  While Fuhr was a critical factor, I would not  >>overlook the fact that the Sabres finally got some scoring from people other  >>than Mogilny and LaFontaine (Khmylev, Sweeney, Hawerchuck, etc.).  Indeed,  >>LaFontaine played hurt and didn't score many goals.  Also, the team played  >>better defense (although not great) than in the regular season.  Fuhr  >>deserves a lot of credit, but not all of it. >> >>Robert A. > >I agree with this. I also think Fuhr's contribution for Sabres's win is just >the same as many palyers in the team. Mogilny had six goals in four games >including two goals for the great comeback in the final win after Fuhr had >left. The key for Sabres's win over Boston is whole team's strong commitment >as an underdog and all their talent players including Mogilny and Fuhr. >  I think that Grant Fuhr deserves more credit than that! While it's true that the entire Sabres team played very well, I still believe that if it wasn't for Grant Fuhr, the series would now be tied 2-2. He virtually stole games 1 and 3 for the Sabres. In both of these games, Fuhr stood on his head to give the Sabres the chance to win. Especially in game 3, Fuhr made a series of huge stops in the third period when the score was tied 2-2.  Even in game 2 when the Sabres won 4-0, the score seemed to indicate that the Sabres dominated. However, if it hadn't been for Fuhr, the Sabres wouldn't have been up (2-0 I think it was) through the 2nd period and the Bruins wouldn't have had to open up the game (thereby allowing Mogilny to score the third goal on a breakaway to salt away the game).  There is no doubt in my mind that Fuhr was the critical factor in the victory.   In my opinion, Neely, Oates and Juneau played as well as LaFontaine, Mogilny and Hawerchuk. The Sabres did get extraordinary efforts from Hannan, Sweeney, Wood, and Khmylev (compared to that of the Bruins checkers). However, the Bruins defense , IMO, played better than the Sabres defense (the Sabres have Ken Sutton playing a regular shift afterall ;-) The difference in the series was Fuhr, who outplayed Andy Moog.   Gary
In article <1993Apr6.142037.9246@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:  |> |>In article <1993Apr6.044323.22829@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> daniell@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy) writes: |>> |>>You know, you're absolutely right.  I think we should round up all those |>>players of European descent and ship 'em back to where they came from.  Let's |>>see, with whom should we start?  I dunno, Lemieux?  Hmmm...sounds like he |>>has *French* blood in him!!!  Hey!  France is part of Europe!  Send that |>>Euro-blooded boy back!!! |>> |> |>Don't you Americans study history...the French settled in North America |>as early or before the British...Lemieux can probably trace back his |>North American heritage back a lot further than most of us. |> |>Gerald |>   Uh, Gerald, I think he was joking...
Well put, Jason.  I am not from Wisconsin, but I have close relatives who live in Port Washington (about 30 minutes north of Milwaukee), I visit the city regularly, and I have been in the Bradley four times to see the Admirals play  and the NCAA Hockey Championships.  It is a beautiful building.  The Pettits and the city like to promote it as the best facility for hockey in North America. As to what will happen with the Admirals if Milwaukee does acquire a franchise, word is the team will move to Green Bay and play in the Brown County Arena. Once again, the Admirals are an independent franchise, and the people of Milwaukee have been supporting them well.  The games I have been to have seen crowds anywhere from 10,000 to 13,000, which are numbers some NHL teams (i.e. the Islanders, Hartford, New Jersey) would be envious of having on some nights. Plus the fact that the city is able to support a minor league franchise without the glamour of having an NHL club affiliated to it is testimony to the amount of hockey interest exists in the city.  Sincerely,  Martin Hill, Rt. 2, Box 155B, Sault Ste. Marie, MI (Home of LSSU:  Go Lakers!)
In article <1993Apr3.014237.20959@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> bui@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (BUI/DON/MR) writes: >In article <16b5xvf@rpi.edu> wangr@rpi.edu writes: >>>If anyone out there is keeping an Islanders e-mail list, could you >>>please add me to it? Thanks in advance. >> >>>Ercu >>	 >>	Can u add me onto the list too....Thanks... >> >>Rex > >Count me IN !!!! > >Go Isles! > >						-Don > >bui@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca >  Please count me in also...  Just can't tell you how excited I was when the Islanders beat the Rangers in overtime on last Friday!!!
In article <randolin.3.735424986@polisci.umn.edu> randolin@polisci.umn.edu (Robert Andolina) writes: >The thing that confuses me most about ESPN is that they decided to show the  >Penguins and Devils again on Thursday night.  Being that both of the first  >two games were dominated by Pitt., you would think that they would show a  >different game.  This is in addition to the fact that they should show other  >games just for the sake of fair exposure. > >Also, some of you should know that (as far as I can tell) ESPN is not going  >to show Campbell conference games regularly in the first two rounds.  I  >believe that they are only going to show Campbell games in the first two  >rounds as those series wear on (games 6 & 7, or perhaps games 5, 6, 7).  > >Also, does anyone have info on ABC coverage for this Sunday (4/25)? > >    ESPN had an advertise for Pens/Devils game 4. I don't know what the hell   they are trying to do, especially against NFL draft. Well I guess there goes   the NHL ratings for Sundays game.
I have some advice for you, and some thoughts about your hatred of the Minnesota North Stars:  1. A real team like Toronto would not be moved, you are right,    just eliminated from the playoffs first round! 2. Why stay in Minnesota when you can go to a college in    Western Ontario and actually take classes on map-reading    and the Artistry of BSing specifically set up for just you. 3. Why should anyone love the Stars, when hating the Leafs    is so much better? 4. Oh, I'm sorry.. well, maybe you can't understand my    big words.. next time I'll limit my vocabulary to words    like "get real team now" and "do not waste our time" 5. Respond to this article. I love to laugh at your humor,    even though it it unintentional. I got a BIG kick out of    GO LEAFS GO.... go where? HOME, I think!! :) --  delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------    1988,1989,1990,1991 AFC East Division Champions 1991,1992, AND 1993 AFC Conference Champions!!!!!!!!  :)  Squished the Fish ............... Monday Night Football, November 16, 1992.. SQUISHED THE TRASH TALKING FISH.. AFC CHAMPIONSHIP, JANUARY 17, 1992..
In article <1993Apr21.234022.2880@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes: >   > I *don't* think the Sharks should dig into the free agent market.  Most of > the "good" free agents will require quite a bit of compensation, and set the > Sharks back as far as player development goes; remember, the Sharks were > unwilling to give up player(s) in addition to the $2 million they offered for > Joe Murphy, and I think that's a good approach.  They tried to sign Sergei > Makarov before this season because Makarov wouldn't have required compensation.  Matching the Makarov offer was the only real mistake Dave King has made this year. I have to wonder about the intelligence of signing a 33-year old who is obviously on the downside of his career to a 4-year $2 million contract.  Risebrough matched the offer on King's request and Makarov has spent the last quarter of the season in the press box because his work ethic just plain stinks. Not to mention that he's lost a step and can no longer get himself into position to make the nifty passes.   I think Makarov will be available for free this offseason to anybody who agrees to pay his contract. He's ineffective in Calgary, but he might be able to help a team like San Jose, with their shortage of talent. If there's no takers, and Makarov doesn't show improvement in training camp, I think the Flames will just bite the bullet and buy out Makarov's contract and release him. With his current attitude, he is a detriment to the team.
Also sprach slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca ...  >TSN Sportsdesk just reported that the OTTAWA SUN has reported that >Montreal will send 4 players + $15 million including Vin Damphousse >and Brian Bellows to Phillidelphia, Phillie will send Eric Lindros >to Ottawa, and Ottawa will give it's first round pick to Montreal. > >If this is true, it will most likely depend on whether or not Ottawa >gets to choose 1st overall.  Can Ottawa afford Lindros' salary? > >Personally, I can't see Philli giving up Lindros -- for anything. >They didn't give away that much to Quebec just to trade him away >again.  Not to mention that Lindros seems to be a *huge* draw in >Phillie -- and that he represents a successful future for the >franchise. > >Ottawa may be better off taking the 4 players +$15 from Montreal >for the pick. > >Stephen Legge >SLEGGE@kean.ucs.munc.ca  Two things:  1. Didn't the trade deadline pass two weeks ago?  2. The FLYERS would never ever EVER give up Lindros, simple as that.  Go Flyers, Cup in '94...  Mike
In article <1993Apr18.194657.26319@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes: >nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes: >> >>CENTERS >>Mark Messier, N. Y. Rangers > >Messier was not invited due to his nagging injuries.  While the press >made an issue of it, and attempted to link it to the Rangers' internal >political woes, Mike Keenan repeated that to Messier personally during >the MSG press conference.  It makes sense ... Messier would probably >have not declined the invitation if it were made for publicity ... >  Actually, Messier was invited, but declined due to nagging injuries... Keenan and Messier have always gotten along...Keenan dumped Steve Yzerman from the last Canada Cup team, even though Yzerman had endured the training camp, when Messier who had missed essentially the entire camp recovering from injuries became available at the last moment.
In article <1993Apr22.121035.3394@mtroyal.ab.ca>  writes: > >And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded,  > >resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other  > >team captain trivia would be appreciated. >  > Brad McCrimmon was the captain of the Flames when he was traded to Detroit > following the 1989-90 season. This was during the off-season though. >  > There's countless examples of captains being traded, I'm sure.  Yeah... I think that the Flames and the Flyers traded Captains once... Mel   Bridgeman for Brad Marsh.
Well, it's not that bad. But I am still pretty pissed of at the local ABC coverage. They cut off the first half hour of coverage by playing David Brinkley at 12:30 instead of an earlier time slot. I don't even understand their problem. If they didnt think enough people would  not watch the game why would they decide to show most of the game? And if they showed the remaining 2.5 hours of the game, would it hurt to play David Brinkley at its regular time? They dont have any decent programming before noon anyway. I called the sports dept and blasted them on their machine. I called gain and someone picked it up. When I asked him why they premepted the first half hour of the Stanley Cup playoffs, he seemed a bit confused. When I explained a bit more in detail, he then said that's upto to our programming dept. call back on  Monday. weel, I understand that the sports dept is not responsible for this preemption. BUt I can't understand how someone in the sports dept. can't even recognise the name of playoffs shown on the very same station he works for.  Anyway, I am going to call them tomorrow and blast them on the phone again. I urge all Atlanta hockey fans to call WSB 2 and ask them not to do the same thing for the next 4 weeks.
In article <1993Apr24.011729.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 35002_2765@uwovax.uwo.ca writes: >Hooray, I hear on TSN that the Jets have won a game, Selanne >getting a hat-trick! > >Of course, here in GOD'S COUNTRY (read Ontario!) I couldn't >see that game, nor any other in the VAN-WPG series so far, >because our beloved CBC figures no one out here cares about >this series (which has looked pretty competitve so far... > >On Monday and Wednesday nights, CBC could have shown the Toronto- >Detroit game, done the news, then picked up Winnipeg-Vancouver. >They didn't.  Tonight?  You guessed it, Toronto-Detroit, the >news (not the end of the Jets game), then Calgary-LA. > >SO, if it's "Hockey Night in Canada", why can't this Ontarian see >one of the two series with two Canadian teams?  Is this too much to >ask? > >Paul Badertscher >35002_2765@uwovax.uwo.ca   I'd like to echo these sentiments.  This is the worst coverage I can   ever remember seeing on CBC.  As soon as the game ends, I can count to 30,  and by that time, they've signed off the air.  No post game interviews,  no updating of late scores, nothin'.  TSN is really putting CBC to   shame.  I only hope the later round coverage improves, I mean, who  really wants to see CBC PrimeTime News instead of hockey.   My $.02,   Darren
I was watching the Detroit-Minnesota game last night and thought I saw an octopus on the ice after Ysebaert scored to tie the game at two. What gives? (is there some custom to throw octopuses on the ice in Detroit?) ------- Not Responsible -- Dain Bramaged!!
In article <1993Apr23.164919.43442@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> sjg3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEVEN JAY GIBBLE) writes: ... >    Mario is the Michael Jordan of hockey.  All that fucker has to do is fall >    on the ice and the closet guy to him gets at least 2.  Last night in the >    3rd game between NJ and Pitt, he was being pushed while skating across the >    front of the goal while trying to get a shot off.  The guy on him was >    doing a good job, so he got off a weak shot, but then he decided to fall >    to the ice. Then the fucking ref(Van Helloamend?) called the guy for >    holding.  They replayed the play, and my roomate(who is clueless about >    hockey) wanted to know what the NJ guy did to get a call, because it was so fucking obvious the NJ player >    had both hands on his stick, and no, he did not trip him.  It is simple, >    Mario gets touched, he falls to the ice, automatic 2.  But the thing that >    really pissed me off is, Pitt scored the 3rd or 4th goal, I don't remember, >    on the resulting PP and >    eventually won 4-3.  His diving/calls makes a HUGE difference in the >    outcome of a game. ... >    All agreeing or disagreeing replies are welcomed. > >    Steve      We must have been watching two different games.   The Devil had one hand on Mario's elbow and pulling the elbow caused Mario to fall so the call was appropriate.  Using clueless people to substantiate your claims doesn't give me a lot of confidence in your call either.  Next time consider getting a second opinion from a clueful observer.  Or maybe all those available disagreed.
According to THE FAN here in T.O., Ottawa has won the Daigle e sweepstakes.  They didn't mention why, but San Jose had more goals than the Sen-sens, so I have a hunch this is why Ottawa would pick first.....
Just a quick note about Manon's immediate future: Rumor has it(USA Today's spor ts page) that she will be playing with Tampa Bay's affiliate in the ECHL(I Thin k. It's been a couple of days. :)) She will supposedly be competing for the num ber 2 goaltender spot.  I think, after her performance, which was damn good for  someone who hasn't played squat all year, that we'll be seeing a lot more of h er in Atlanta in the years to come.     Ward
Hi all,  Due to living in the Bay Area, I as unable to see Vancouver's victory over the Jets last night.  I know the score, but that rarely describes the game. Could someone please post a brief sonapsis (sp?) of waht happened.  How well did each team play?  Were the cannucks deserving of the victory?  Also, could some kind soul please email me the end of season, individual player stats?  Greg
Tom Barrasso wore a great mask, one time, last season.  He unveiled it at a game in Boston.    It was all black, with Pgh city scenes on it.  The "Golden Triangle" (Pgh's downtown area where the 3 rivers meet) graced the top, along with a steel mill on one side and the Civic Arena (I think) on the  other.   On the back of the helmet was the old Pens' logo (the really fat little penguin with the blue scarf) the current (at the time) Pens logo, and a space for the "new" (now current) logo.  Tommy had designed the mask, and his mother (an artist) painted it for him.    But while wearing the mask, the Pens got thumped by the Bruins.  The very next game, Tommy was back to the old paint job.  A great mask done in by a goalie's superstition.