In article <1r0hicINNjfj@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu>, lanph872@crow.csrv.uidaho.edu (Rob Lanphier) writes: |> Malcolm Lee (mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca) wrote in reference to Leviticus 21:9 |> and Deuteronomy 22:20-25: |> : These laws written for the Israelites, God's chosen people whom God had |> : expressly set apart from the rest of the world.  The Israelites were a |> : direct witness to God's existence.  To disobey God after KNOWing that God |> : is real would be an outright denial of God and therefore immediately punishable. |> : Remember, these laws were written for a different time and applied only to  |> : God's chosen people.  But Jesus has changed all of that.  We are living in the |> : age of grace.  Sin is no longer immediately punishable by death.  There is |> : repentance and there is salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.  And not just |> : for a few chosen people.  Salvation is available to everyone, Jew and Gentile |> : alike. |>  |> Hmm, for a book that only applied to the Israelites (Deuteronomy), Jesus sure |> quoted it a lot (Mt 4: 4,7,10).  In addition, he alludes to it in several |> other places (Mt 19:7-8; Mk 10:3-5; Jn 5:46-47).  And, just in case it isn't |> clear Jesus thought the Old Testament isn't obsolete, I'll repeat the |> verse in Matthew which gets quoted on this group a lot: |>  |> "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have |> not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.  I tell you the truth, until |> heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke |> of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is |> accomplished.  Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments |> and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of |> heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called |> great in the kingdom of heaven.  For I tell you that unless your |> righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, |> you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."  (Mt 5:17-20 NIV, in |> pretty red letters, so that you know it's Jesus talking) |>  |> This causes a serious dilemma for Christians who think the Old Testament |> doesn't apply to them.  I think that's why Paul Harvey likes quoting it so |> much ;). |>  |> Rob Lanphier |> lanph872@uidaho.edu   I will clarify my earlier quote.  God's laws were originally written for  the Israelites.  Jesus changed that fact by now making the Law applicable to all people, not just the Jews.  Gentiles could be part of the kingdom of Heaven through the saving grace of God.  I never said that the Law was made obsolete by Jesus.  If anything, He clarified the Law such as in that quote you made.  In the following verses, Jesus takes several portions of the Law and expounds upon the Law giving clearer meaning to what God intended.  If you'll notice, He also reams into the Pharisees for mucking up the Law with their own contrived interpretations.  They knew every letter of the Law and followed it with their heads but not their hearts.  That is why He points out that our righteousness must surpass that of the Pharisees in order to be accepted into the kingdom of Heaven.  People such as the Pharisees are those who really go out of their way to debate about the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. They had become legalistic, rule-makers - religious lawyers who practiced the letter of the Law but never really believed in it.    I think you will agree with me that there are in today's world, a lot of modern-day Pharisees who know the bible from end to end but do not believe in it.  What good is head knowledge if there is nothing in the heart?  Christianity is not just a set of rules; it's a lifestyle that changes one's perspectives and personal conduct.  And it demands obedience to God's will. Some people can live by it, but many others cannot or will not.  That is their choice and I have to respect it because God respects it too.  God be with you,