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In article 9088@blue.cis.pitt.edu, jrmst8+@pitt.edu (Joseph R Mcdonald) writes:  >Jagr has a higher +/-, but Francis has had more points.  And take it from >an informed observer, Ronnie Francis has had a *much* better season than >Jaromir Jagr.  This is not to take anything away from Jaro, who had a  >decent year (although it didn't live up to the expectations of some).  Bowman tended to overplay Francis at times because he is a Bowman-style player.  He plays hard at all times, doesn't disregard his defensive responsibilities and is a good leader.  Bowman rewarded him be increasing his ice time.  Jagr can be very arrogant and juvenile and display a "me first" attitude. This rubbed Bowman the wrong way and caused him to lose some ice time.  Throughout the year, Francis consistently recieved more ice time than Jagr.  Althouhg I have never seen stats on this subject, I am pretty sure that Jagr had more points per minute played that Francis.  When you add to that Jagr's better +/- rating, I think it becomes evident that Jagr had a better season- not that Francis had a bad one.
In article <1qi44l$kqr@access.digex.net>, steveg@cadkey.com (Steve Gallichio) wrote: >  >  > John P. Curcio (jpc@philabs.philips.com) responded to my drivel: >  > >steveg@cadkey.com (Steve Gallichio) writes: > >  > >>I still am surprised that no one has tried giving away the goodies at the end > >>of the game. The two problems with that, of course, are that you would want > >>to make sure the first people in the building would be assured of getting > >>them (probably redeemable vouchers), and that the building managers want to > >>avoid at all costs delaying people as they leave the building, if, for > >>instance, the goodies are given to people as they exit. > > > >I went to the New Jersey Devils/Carvel Ice Cream Puck Night (tm) last year to > >see the beloved Bruins play.  The pucks were given out at the end of the game. > >I could just imagine what would have happened late in the third if the Bruins > >were winning.... >  > It figures, after I posted the first article, I found out that the Whalers are > going to be using coupons for the the giveaway on Friday Night. I believe that > is is the "Some Big Corporation (Probably a Bank) Flying Disk Night." I think > that we could all see the potential for danger here... >  > >|> All in all, I have seen a whole bunch of giveaways land on the ice, and it > >|> never ceases to amuse me. I'm just thankful for the players that no one has > >|> yet to sponsor 'Lead Pipe Night' at any arenas... > > > >That's probably because they couldn't find anyone to sponser it... Maybe USS > >could sponser the Pittsburgh Penguins/US Steel Steel Rod Night-- close enough? >  > Naah, it'd probably bounce off of Jay Caufield. >  > -SG  I was at a Cincinnati Cyclones game a year ago when the local country station sponsored a kazoo giveaway.  After a particularly bad call by the underexperienced ECHL ref, it was Kazoostorm time down on the ice.  I thought this was a pathetic display by the fans, but they were rightfully unhappy.
In article <22APR93.02956996.0062@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> Patrick Walker   <F1HH@UNB.CA> writes: > Who should get the Hart? > Gretzky, not in a million years.  At least not this year. >   He hasn't played all year. > Yzerman, though it would be nice, I don't think he'll get it, he's >  consistent, but not well known.  (Thought he should be!) > Mario.  Jesus NO!  It's bad enough for me just to utter the word >  without being extremely sick and pissed off.  They guy's a luber >  to ramble.  As you can see I hate Mario. > Pat Walker > UNB
Here we go again. Is this the same idiot who posted the Gretzky trade to Toronto????   Sheeeesh!  You should have waited until we got over that one before this garbage, maybe we would have believed it for half a second (NOT!).     By the way, I just heard from Mother Goose that Mario Lemieux was traded to Winnpeg for Tie Domi!!!!!
OK. I know I look pretty desperate on this bboard. I think I have posted 3 or 4 messages already on the issue of NHL telecats over the last few weeks. But, hey. I am pretty desperate. What I am interested is not just a sportsbar with multiple screens so thast I can watch the game on one of those silent screens. Are there any hockey oriented bars in this area. Or does some Patrick division or Adams division fan have a satellite dish? I don't mind paying an admission fee, if necessary.
>Michael Collingridge writes: >  >>And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded,  >>resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other  >>team captain trivia would be appreciated. >  >Wasn't Ron Francis captain of the Whalers when he was traded to >Pittsburgh? > >Mom.  Rick Tocchet was captain of the Flyers for several years before he was traded to the Pens...                                      -John Santore   =============================================================================  ____________________                                 /                    \                   "We break the surface tension  \_________     ____   \                   with our wild kinetic dreams" /             /    \   \                        -Rush, Grand Designs \_______     /  (*) )   ) /           / /\___/   /                 Go Philadelphia Flyers! \_____     / /        / /         /  \_______/                   John Santore (jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu) \________/
>roots in Detroit.  He would be a valuable asset to the Wings and Perhaps the >Rangers could get a Zombo in return?       Wake up and smell the Norris!!  Rick Zombo was traded to the Blues for Vince Riendo (sp?) last season.
In <1993Apr26.162805.1534@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:  >In article <1993Apr24.010132.3405@mtroyal.ab.ca> caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes: >>The Hart trophy goes to the player most valuable to his team, not to the best >>player in the league. So your above arguement is really worthless.   >Personally, I always thought that "most valuable to his team" was silly. >Why should the best player in the league be penalized because he plays on a >team with other good players?  Why should a lesser player be picked solely >because he's the best player on a weak team?   Wouldn't the weaker team be >helped even more by the best player in the league?  Doesn't the presence of >the best player in the league make the other players on the team look >better, too?  The Hart Trophy was orginally awarded in a time where people did not think in terms of who was the "best" player, rather in terms of who was the most valuable to the team.  And "valuable to his team" was not, and should not be, considered synonymous with "best".  We are talking about a time when honour and attitude, not measurable skills, were the most important assets a player brought to his team, his league and his sport.  This was before the onslaught of professionalism which has clearly denigrated what was  formerly the foremost peacetime pursuit of glory.  The Hart Trophy is not a prize.  It is an honour.   --
In article <1993Apr23.102811.623@sei.cmu.edu>, caj@sei.cmu.edu (Carol Jarosz) writes... >  >While watching the Penguins/Devils game last night, I saw the "slash" that >Barrasso took on the neck.  This brought to mind the goaltender who had his >jugular vein cut by a skate.  I think he was a Sabre, but I'm not positive. >Does anyone remember/know his name?  What has happened to him since?  What >about the player whose skate cut the goalie?  Name?  Info?  Has this ever >happened before in a hockey game?     It was Clint Malarchuk's neck cut by Uwe Krupp's skate.  I know it happened in Buffalo, but I can't tell you against whom.  Krupp was defending an opposing attacker charging the net.  Malarchuk became the fourth goalie (behind Hasek, Puppa and Draper) after suffering from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder.  He's been playing in San Diego for former Sabre coach Rick Dudley.  Krupp is now playing for the Islanders after the LaFontaine/Turgeon trade.  What do I win?  =)
Jan Brittenson writes:  >last year. The Pens' weak spot is defense and goaltending -- if Boston              ...  >   Boston doesn't have the guns of the Pens, but the Pens doesn't have >the defense, goaltending, and discipline of Boston. Still, Boston can  Why do you say this?  As of now, the Pens and Bruins have played the same number of games, and given up the same number of goals.  They are tied for the third and fourth best defenses in the league, behind Chicago first and Toronto second.  The Pens' weak spot is defense?  Only by comparison to their offense, which is second in the league to Detroit.  But the Pens are no weaker on defense and goaltending than the Bruins are; that is, they are both very strong.
Way back in the early years (~50's) it took 8 wins to garner the Stanley Cup.  Soooooo, a couple of local fish mongers (local to the Joe Louis Arena, that is) started the tradition of throwing an octopi onto the ice with every win.  After each victory, one leg would be severed before the octopus found its way to the ice.  (They are dead by the way.)  It was a brilliant marketing strategy to shore up the demand for one of their least popular products.  Hope this helps.
I have been to all 3 Isles/Caps tilts at the Crap Centre this year, all Isles wins and there is no justification for Vukota and Pilon to play for the Isles. Vukota is absolutely the worst puck handler in the world!! He couldn't hit a bull in the ass with a banjo!! Al must remember a few years back when Mick  scored 3 goals in one period against the Caps in a 5-3 Isles win. I was there and was astonished as was the rest of the crowd. Wake-up Al!!! Years later he's gotten worse. He's a cheap shot artist and always ends up getting stupid/senseless penalties. I think he would make a good police officier!!!  As for Pilon, he can't carry the puck out to center ice by himself. He either makes a bad pass resulting in a turnover, or he attempts to bring the puck  towards the neutral zone and skates right into an opposing skater. He can't stay on his skates with most forwards or centers. He either falls down or  committs a penalty. Call up somebody from Capital District AL!!!!!  As far as the playoffs, the Isles are as difficult to figure out as the Caps. Two good teams with talent but so inconsistent. They should meet in the first round. The Isles seem to play up to the level of their competition so they should play well against Jersey tonite. It'll probably be another tight 1-goal game as the last 20 games hve been for the Isles. I wish when the get a lead they could continue to pour it on instead of settling back into a defensive shell and letting the opposition get back in the game. Al MUST understand he can't do with this team what he did with the 80-83 Isles. maybe Al should got to. Where is Bobby Nystrom?? Clark Gilles?? John Tonelli?? These are the kind of young minds we need behing the bench!!    FIRE AL!!!!  John Scialdone SCIALDONE@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV
Tuesday, and the isles/caps game is going into overtime. what does ESPN do.....  Tom Mees says,  "we are obligated to bring you baseball"  I hate to say this, but last year the coverage of the playoffs on sports channel america (out in colorado) was vastly superior to what espn is giving us this year. --
In article <1993Apr21.085435.6895@ericsson.se>, etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson) writes:   >  OK, I forgot the Czech roster at home yesterday, but now I have it. >  I don't know the teams for all players, so I would appreciate if >  you guys could fill in the blanks for me (especially I think some >  of these players play in Finland). >  >  The Czech Republic >  ------------------ >  >  Goaltenders:	 1. Petr Briza		(Finland somewhere, right?) 					signed contract for EV Landshut, Germany 					for the 1993/94 season   >  Defense:	 3. Leo Gudas		? 					EC Hedos Muenchen, Germany 					since 1992.   Holger
clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI) writes in clari.sports.hockey:  >	NEW YORK (UPI) -- Mike Keenan, whose NHL coaching history >has been to wear out his welcome despite an impressive penchant for  >winning, has come to the city that embraces victors above all else.  Well, I could become a fan ... (-;  Seriously, this news coming since Thursday has effectively robbed the Islanders and the Devils of any airtime on sports talk shows almost everywhere that I've sampled ... in fact, the playoffs almost don't exist now. )-; Ranger fans calling in to WFAN or to New York One's midnight sports talk were in a mix of fury over this season and near- orgasm over Keenan's hiring.  (Summarizing: Keenan is a winner and will give the Broadway Bums 'da business' in pursuing the next Cup chase ...)  >	The Chicago Blackhawks cut their last tie with Keenan when >he was forced out as general manager in November. He had given up >Chicago's coaching duties a year ago and his thirst for the power >of a GM now increases the pressure on beleaguered Rangers GM Neil >Smith.  This will be an interesting combination to watch ... Keenan has been paid enough money to put up and shut up and just be a coach, but his advice on any player moves will be listened to closely.  A lot of big player moves will happen --- remember that Keenan got rid of Denis Savard.  The country club days are over ...  >	``When Keenan left Chicago I couldn't help but think about  >him as our coach,'' Smith said. ``There was an indication he would  >be taken off the market. I feared that and couldn't let that happen.''  If Paramount had given Smith an earlier sign of support and offered Keenan the big money to put-up-and-shut-up back in January, the Rangers might not be heading for golf now ...  >	Keenan, 43, takes on a demoralized team that offers him a >chance to fashion yet another of his reclamation projects -- at the >highest salary ever commanded by an NHL coach. The Rangers -- owned >by Gulf & Western -- have bestowed upon Keenan an unprecedented $3 >million, four-year deal,  >	``I've known Mike a long time,'' Messier said. ``We've won two >Canada Cups together. He's been to the finals three times. Maybe we >miss just one more element to win the Stanley Cup. I don't think he's >the same person he was 10 years ago or even five years ago. I think he >has changed and bettered himself with experience.''  One of Keenan's first statements was a reaffirmation that Mark Messier will be the team's captain.  >	The timing of the move gives the Rangers' new coach 2 1-2 >months to prepare for the NHL draft (June 26), and Neil Smith may  >not back off the their trade-happy pattern.  By then, Smith might have some bargains on Keenan's advice ... like maybe unloading Phil Bourque for Tie Domi ... (-;  gld
In article 735571987@vela.acs.oakland.edu, ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes:  >gballent@vancouver.UVic.CA (Greg  Ballentine) writes:  Lots of debate about the virtues of Bryan Murray vs Pat Quinn as a GM deleted.  Randy Graca seems to think Murray is the best GM in the league. I think Quinn is one of several who are better.  >>Plus his team (Quinn's) has improved a much greater amount than Detroit since >>he took over with them. > >How do you figure?  Both Vancouver and Detroit did the same thing last year: >They both won their division, they had close to the same number of points, >they both went down 3-1 in the first round of the playoffs before finally >escaping in 7 games, and they both got knocked out in the second round by >teams they should have been able to beat, with less talent.  (Specifically, >if I remember correctly, third place teams).  How does this make Vancouver >more improved?  Further, if I'm not mistaken, the Wings had more points than >Vancouver at the end of this season (albeit not many).   When Quinn took over Vancouver- several years ago, NOT LAST YEAR, they  regularily missed the playoffs.  I can't recall if they missed the playoffs the year before his hiring but they probably did.  Quinn has improved the team from non-playoff calibre to a serious contender.  When Murray took over in Detroit, the were about a .500 team that was a contender to win the Norris division and possibly even a Stanley Cup contender.  So Quinn has improved his team more than Murray has since taking over as a GM. Quinn is one example of a better GM than Murray.
The Ottwawa Senators fired Mel Bridgman at 1:00 PM today. Randy Sexton is gonna replace him.
Can the Sabres win two more games against the Bruins?  I think game three in Buffalo will be the most important of the series.  If the Sabres lose that game, the party will be over.  It will  be hello next year.  The key for the remaining games in the series will be whether Fuhr can keep up his brillliant goaltending and if Mogilny can continue skate by  the Bruins.  He has shown demonstrated excellent speed.  Finally, the Sabres appear to have shown up for the post season.
daveb@thewho.East.Sun.COM (Dave Brewer) writes:  >In yesterday's fracus between Rob Ray and Brent Hughes, was it the camera angle or was >Ray actually punching Hughes where it appeared he was punching him? (For those that didn't >see the game - it was several inches below the belt and he punched him there quite a few >times.) Dreadful.  >Also, why did Poulin get four minutes?   I've been watching & playing hockey for a good long time now, and I've seen players with questionable tactics, but never have I seen what Ray did on Sunday. This guy gets my all time loser award. It's one thing to repeatedly cross check someone to the back of the neck when they are down, it's another thing to have a fist fight with someones balls. Ray should be thrown out of the league, what an a**hole.
In article <93115.191211RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>, Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> says: >(Michael Virata Sy) says: >>Michael Sy >>mvs1@cec2.wustl.edu (DEVILS CONSULTANT) >>And HOW 'BOUT THOSE DEVILS!  4-1 over the Penguins.  HAHAHAHAHAHAH! >  >Attention all Penguins fans:  If The Pens  win game 5,  show some laughter >in that e-mail box address listed above.  Thanks! :-) >  Attention Penguins fans once again, apparently 99.999% of you understand that this was just a joke (Hence the :-) next to it) but one idiot on here doesn't as he got pissed at me and sent me two hate e-mails telling me that this is wrong.  I have no intentions of sending e-mail to anyone should the Pens win tonight, and I really do not expect/do not intend to lead any of you to send this poster e-mail either.  It was NOT a serious request.  If you didn't know that (which you probably did) then don't do it.  Thanks.
In article <1993Apr23.134038.17094@sei.cmu.edu> sad@sei.cmu.edu (Susan Dart) writes: > >If ESPN pisses you off, call them - they do respond to calls. Last night I >called when they said they were cutting to baseball and we couldn't see the >sudden-death overtime for the BUffalo game. Apparently they received enough >calls so they waited for the overtime to finish before cutting away. > >Their phone number is 203-585-2000 > >Susan Dart     Well I think whenever ESPN covers the game they do a wonderful job. But    what I don't understand is that they cut the OT just show some stupid    baseball news which is not important at all. Then I waited for the scores    to comeon Sportscenter, but they talk about Baseball, basketball and     football. Then they showed Penguine highlight and went back to stupid    basketball. Finally they showed a highlight of the OT goal but that    was like 30 sec. I think they should give more attention to NHl during    the playoffs then talking about boring basketball games..     I guess it is NHL's fault too for leaving ESPN. Hope things improve    by next season...     COBRA   --
It is meaningless to compare one player's plus/minus statistic with another players' out of the context of the role and the playing time of the players involved.      To compare Jagr's and Francis's plus/minus is ridiculous and absurd...
Teemu Selanne had 3 goals, Keith Tkachuk had one, and Luciano Borsato scored a rare Jets shorthanded goal as the Jets held on to beat the Canucks 5-4, and close the series to 2-1.  Trevor Linden and Pavel Bure had two goals each for the Canucks in a losing cause.  Selanne came out of a two game goal scoring slump, scoring two powerplay goals, and one on a nice breakaway pass from Darrin Shannon.  Hard work paid off tonight for the Jets, and if the Jets continue to exhibit this strong work effort, they can make a series of it. (I woofed last year when we were up 3-1...I ain't going to do THAT again.  I'll have to be quietly happy with a solid performance.  ;)
In article 12934@ac.dal.ca, 06paul@ac.dal.ca () writes: > >	STANLEY CUP FINALS >Toronto Maple Leafs    vs    Montreal Canadiens     >	(The Classic Stanley Cup Final matchup!!) <---also a dream come true! >	Montreal wins the Stanley cup in the 7th game 1 - 0 in double overtime.  You know... after I finished laughing I thought:  This would be a great final.  Two Canadian teams with lots of tradition and all that Don Cherry nonsense behind them and a nail-biter finish.  Of course, I would prefer a Vancouver--Montreal final with Vancouver scoring the final goal....  Pity neither will happen.
In <berger.735512230@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> berger@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu writes:  > I've heard rumors recently from reliable sources that Abe Polin, the > moron who owns the Washington Capitals is looking to move the team > after this season or next.  Milwaukee was mentioned as the team's > potential destination.  The person who told me this is strongly > affiliated with the NHL and has been extremely accurate in the past > with news of this sort.  Does anyone know if this is so or has > heard anything of the sort?  With Baltimore's AHL team gone, that would > leave the area with only an ECHL franchise in Baltimore- not good. > Thanks >  >    David  WHY!!! DC/Baltimore is one of the top media markets (=the only thing the NHL seems to care about these days), they've been doing far better than the NBA Bullets at the gate for the last five years. The team has been a perennial contender and fan support has been good to excellent . . . Why should Pollin move to city that's five times smaller but has as many teams in other pro sports. I don't get it...     > --  >  > 					David
In article <120666@netnews.upenn.edu> kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller) writes: >My vote goes to John Vanbiesbrouck.  His mask has a skyline of New York >City, and on the sides there are a bunch of bees (Beezer).  It looks >really sharp.  Doesn't it also have the Statue of Liberty on it or is that Richter's Mask?  The back actually has a Bee followed by a Z to represent the Beezer. It  also has something that looks like the three interconnecting circles from the Led Zepplin 4 album cover. Is that what it is supposed to be? and if it is does anybody know why he would put it there? Ali?  >    Keith Keller				LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!! >            "When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."   John "The official Language of Golf is Profanity"