waashk/20ng huggingface dataset:
The most current orbital elements from the NORAD two-line element sets are carried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated daily (when possible).  Documentation and tracking software are also available on this system.  As a service to the satellite user community, the most current elements for the current shuttle mission are provided below.  The Celestial BBS may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, 2400, 4800, or 9600 bps using 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity.  Element sets (also updated daily), shuttle elements, and some documentation and software are also available via anonymous ftp from archive.afit.af.mil (129.92.1.66) in the directory pub/space.  STS 55      1 22640U 93 27  A 93117.91666666  .00044808  00000-0  13489-3 0    63 2 22640  28.4614 259.3429 0005169 259.6342  61.8074 15.90673799   201
I think if there is to be a prize and such.. There should be "classes" such as the following:  Large Corp. Small Corp/Company (based on reported earnings?) Large Government (GNP and such) Small Governemtn (or political clout or GNP?) Large Organization (Planetary Society? and such?) Small Organization (Alot of small orgs..)  The organization things would probably have to be non-profit or liek ??  Of course this means the prize might go up. Larger get more or ?? Basically make the prize (total purse) $6 billion, divided amngst the class winners.. More fair?  There would have to be a seperate organization set up to monitor the events, umpire and such and watch for safety violations (or maybe not, if peopel want to risk thier own lives let them do it?).
In article <1993Apr22.184650.4833@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes: >isn't my real name, either.  I'm actually Elvis.  Or maybe a lemur; I >sometimes have difficulty telling which is which.  definitely a lemur.  Elvis couldn't spell,  just listen to any of his songs.
jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) writes:  >tel002@dunix.drake.edu (Tim "Spock" Larson) writes:  >> Where can I get topographical maps of Mars, Venus, other terrestrial >>bodies?  >I still use the old National Geographic maps from the Apollo and Viking eras.  >The other people to ask would be the US Geological Survey.  They have maps of >just about everything.  Unfortunately, I do not have their address.  There is an office on the middle left US coast on Middlefield Road in Menlo Park, CA (415) 329-4390  >--  >Josh Hopkins                                          jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu >		    "Find a way or make one." >	             -attributed to Hannibal
I am coordinating the Space Shuttle Program Office's e-mail traffic to NPO Energia for our on-going Joint Missions.  I have several e-mail addresses for NPO Energia folks, but I won't post them on the 'Net for obvious reasons.  If you need to know, give me a yell.  -- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office       kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368
ktj@beach.cis.ufl.edu (kerry todd johnson) writes:  > Is anybody out there willing to discuss with me careers in the Army that deal > with space?  After I graduate, I will have a commitment to serve in the Army, > and I would like to spend it in a space-related field.  I saw a post a long > time ago about the Air Force Space Command which made a fleeting reference to > its Army counter-part.  Any more info on that would be appreciated.  I'm  > looking for things like: do I branch Intelligence, or Signal, or other?  To > whom do I voice my interest in space?  What qualifications are necessary? > Etc, etc.  BTW, my major is computer science engineering.  Kerry-- I'm guessing a little at this, because it's been a few years  since I saw the info, but you will probably want to look at Air Defense  Artillery as a specialty, or possibly Signals.  The kind of thing you're  looking for is SDI-type assignments, but it'll be pretty prosaic stuff. Things like hard-kill ATBM missiles, some of the COBRA rigs -- that kind  of thing.    Hope that gives you some ideas on where to look, though.
Pat sez; >Oddly, enough,  The smithsonian calls the lindbergh years >the golden age of flight.  I would call it the granite years, >reflecting the primitive nature of it.  It was  romantic, >swashbuckling daredevils,  "those daring young men in their flying >machines".  But in reality, it sucked.  Death was a highly likely >occurence,  and  the environment blew.  Yeah, but a windscreen cut down most of it.  Canopies ended it completely.  Of course, the environment in space continues to suck :-)  -Tommy Mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk   \\ As the radius of vision increases, 18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\ the circumference of mystery grows.
In <1993Apr30.163959.19715@head-cfa.harvard.edu> willner@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) writes:  >cooked if that were the case.  In any event, the energy density of >starlight comes out about the same as that of the microwave >background, and I believe that to be correct.)
In article <C5tEIK.7z9@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:  >Apollo was done the hard way, in a big hurry, from a very limited >technology base... and on government contracts.  Just doing it privately, >rather than as a government project, cuts costs by a factor of several.  So how much would it cost as a private venture, assuming you could talk the U.S. government into leasing you a couple of pads in Florida?
In article <1993Apr16.014506.27923@sol.UVic.CA> rborden@ugly.UVic.CA (Ross  Borden) writes: |In article <1qjs1j$306@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes: |> |> |>In the old days,  their used to be Arbitron stats'  that analyzed |>the readership and posting volumes  by group  and user. |> |>They were available from UUNET.   That's how you check the |>readership of Sci.space,  not some stupid  unscientific attempt |>to  flood the newsgroup. |> |>I have abetter idea.  WHy don't we all reply directly to the |>origanator  of this post,  and tell him we read sci.space ;-) |> |> |>pat | |	Sigh. |	I try to make a little joke, I try to inject some humour here |and what happens?  In the immortal words of Foghorn Leghorn: | |	"I say, that was a _joke_, son." | |	I thought that the bit about McElwaine, not to mention the two |smileys, would indicate to even the most humour impaired that I was |JOKING. >	Sigh. >	(And will everyone who pat's suggestion (thanks bunches, pat) >*please* stop sending me email.) > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >|  I shot a man just to watch him die;    |     Ross Borden                   | >|  I'm going to Disneyland!               |     rborden@ra.uvic.ca            | >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Now, I had put a Wink at the end of my suggestion indicating it was intensely sarcastic.  I can't help it if everyone got all serious.  Ross.  	I never saw your original posting.  it dropped on the floor somewhere.  I just saw the trickle down, thought it was intensely stupid,  not knowing anything about the joke, mentioned arbitron and left it with an equally stupid joke.  Bill in his ever increasing devotion to thoroughness dug up  several  arbitron stats.  I myself think the arbitron stats are  severely methodologically impaired, but are a good measure of proportion.  I don't think anyone knows how many people read news anymore.
In article <1993May11.200419.13494@bmerh85.bnr.ca> rivan@bnr.ca writes:  >  Its seems a bit scarry to me that such a project which for the first >time in years promisses some hope in changing the current trend in >massively overpriced boosting capability, lacks much publicity.  That may change next month; at least I hope it will. A couple of hundred journalists have requested press passes for the test flights. Sustaining that publicity however, will be a problem.     Allen
Hmmm. I seem to recall that the attraction of solid state record- players and radios in the 1960s wasn't better performance but lower per-unit cost than vacuum-tube systems.  	Mind you, my father was a vacuum-tube fan in the 60s (Switched to solid-state in the mid-seventies and then abruptly died; no doubt there's a lesson in that) and his account could have been biased.
In article <SHAFER.93Apr6094402@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov> shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes: >Dryden flew the first digital fly by wire aircraft in the 70s. No >mechnaical or analog backup, to show you how confident we were.  Confident, or merely crazed?  That desert sun :-)   >successful we were.  (Mind you, the Avro Arrow and the X-15 were both >fly-by-wire aircraft much earlier, but analog.) >  Gee, I thought the X-15 was Cable controlled.  Didn't one of them have a total electrical failure in flight?  Was there machanical backup systems?  | |The NASA habit of acquiring second-hand military aircraft and using |them for testbeds can make things kind of confusing.  On the other |hand, all those second-hand Navy planes give our test pilots a chance |to fold the wings--something most pilots at Edwards Air Force Base |can't do. |  What do you mean?  Overstress the wings,  and they fail at teh joints?  You'll have to enlighten us in the hinterlands.
In article <C5rHoC.Fty@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) writes: > I remeber reading the comment that General Dynamics was tied into this, in  > connection with their proposal for an early manned landing.  Sorry I don't  > rember where I heard this, but I'm fairly sure it was somewhere reputable.  > Anyone else know anything on this angle?  The General Chairman is Paul Bialla, who is some official of General Dynamics.  The emphasis seems to be on a scaled-down, fast plan to put *people* on the Moon in an impoverished spaceflight-funding climate. You'd think it would be a golden opportunity to do lots of precusor work for modest money using an agressive series of robot spacecraft, but there's not a hint of this in the brochure.  > Hrumph.  They didn't send _me_ anything :(  You're not hanging out with the Right People, apparently.
In article <844@rins.ryukoku.ac.jp> will@rins.ryukoku.ac.jp (William Reiken) writes:  >	Ok, so how about the creation of oil producing bacteria?  I figure > that if you can make them to eat it up then you can make them to shit it. > Any comments?  They exist.  Even photosynthetic varieties.  Not economical at this time, though.
>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 15:40:47 GMT  >I need as much information about Cosmos 2238 and its rocket fragment (1993- >018B) as possible. Both its purpose, launch date, location, in short, >EVERYTHING! Can you help?  >-Tony Ryan, "Astronomy & Space", new International magazine, available from:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------  Ocean Reconnaissance Launch Surprises West Space News, April 5-11, 1993, p.2 [Excerpts]      Russia launched its first ocean reconnaissance satellite in 26 months  March 30, confounding Western analysts who had proclaimed the program dead.       The Itar-TASS news agency announced the launch of Cosmos 2238 from  Plesetsk Cosmodrome, but provided little description of the payload's mission.       However, based on the satellite's trajectory, Western observers  identified it as a military spacecraft designed to monitor electronic  emissions from foreign naval ships in order to track their movement.       Geoff Perry of the Kettering Group in England... [said]  Western  observers had concluded that no more would be launched. But days after the  last [such] satellite re-entered the Earth's atmosphere, Cosmos 2238 was  launched.   "Cosmos-2238" Satellite Launched for Defense Ministry Moscow ITAR-TASS World Service in Russian  1238 GMT 30 March 1993 Translated in FBIS-SOV-93-060, p.27 by ITAR-TASS correspondent Veronika Romanenkova      Moscow, 30 March -- The Cosmos-2238 satellite was launched at 1600 Moscow  time today from the Baykonur by a "Tsiklon-M" carrier rocket. An ITAR-TASS  correspondent was told at the press center of Russia's space-military forces  that the satellite was launched in the interests of the Russian Defense  Ministry.
In article <C5qvJC.B4B@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:  > The National Air & Space Museum has both the prototype and the film.  >   However, quite possibly it's > no longer on display; NASM, like most museums, has much more stuff than it > can display at once, and does rotate the displays occasionally.  The NASM photo archives are open to the public.  All (or almost all) still pictures in the collection are available for viewing, but I don't know about films.  At least it might be worth a try.  I'm not sure if appointments are necessary, but I think not.  Good luck, and let us know what you find.
If the  new  Kuiper belt object *is*  called 'Karla', the next one  should be called 'Smiley'.
In article <C6DF6w.Bur@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >No.  A "dragless" satellite does not magically have no drag; it burns fuel >constantly to fight drag, maintaining the exact orbit it would have *if* >there was no drag.  This is why there are quotes around "dragless".   I didn't exactly follow the "dragless" satellitte  thread.  What is the point of it?  are they used for  laser geodesy  missions? triad seemed to be some sort of navy navigation bird,  but why be "dragless"  why not just update  orbital parameters?
In article <1993Apr20.152819.28186@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:   > be the site of major commercial activity. As far as we know it has no  > materials we can't get cheaper right here on Earth or from asteroids  > and comets, aside from the semi-mythic He3 that *might* be useful in low  > grade fusion reactors.  I don't know what a "low grade" fusion reactor is, but the major problem with 3He (aside from the difficulty in making any fusion reactor work) is that its concentration in lunar regolith is just so small -- on the order of 5 ppb or so, on average (more in some fractions, but still very small).  Massive amounts of regolith would have to be processed.  This thread reminds me of Wingo's claims some time ago about the moon as a source of titanium for use on earth.  As I recall, Wingo wasn't content with being assured that titanium (at .5% in the Earth's crust, average) would not run out, and touted lunar mines, even though the market price of ilmenite concentrate these days is around $.06/pound. This prompted me to look up large potential terrestrial sources.  On the moon, titanium occurs in basalts; "high-Ti" basalts (Apollo 11 and 17) have 8-14% titanium dioxide (by weight).  This is nice, but... terrestrial continental flood basalts are also typically enriched in titanium.  They very often have 3% TiO2, frequently have 4%, and sometimes even 5% TiO2 (again, by weight).  These flood basalts are *enormous* -- millions of cubic kilometers, scattered all over the world (Siberia, Brazil, the NW United States, Ethiopia, etc.).  If even 1% of the basalts are 5% TiO2, this is trillions of tons of TiO2 at concentrations only a factor of 2-3 less than in lunar high-Ti basalts.  It is difficult to see how the disadvantages of the moon could be overcome by such a small increase the concentration of the ore (never mind the richer, but less common, terrestrial ores being mined today).
In article <C5JLwx.4H9.1@cs.cmu.edu>, ETRAT@ttacs1.ttu.edu (Pack Rat) writes... >There has been something bothering me while watching >NASA Select for a while.  Well, I should'nt say >bothering, maybe wondering would be better.  When >they are going to launch they say (sorry but I forget >exactly who is saying what, OTC to PLT I think) >"Clear caution & warning memory.  Verify no unexpected >errors. ...".  I am wondering what an "expected error" might >be.  Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but   In pure speculation, I would guess cautions based on hazardous pre-launch ops would qualify.  Something like "Caution:  SRBs have just been armed."
In article F23@zoo.toronto.edu, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >In article <1993Apr20.101044.2291@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >>This prize isn't big enough to warrent developing a SSTO, but it is >>enough to do it if the vehicle exists. > >Actually, there are people who will tell you that it *would* be enough >to do SSTO development, if done privately as a cut-rate operation.  Of >course, they may be over-optimistic. > >You can also assume that a working SSTO would have other applications >that would help pay for its development costs. > >I'd be inclined to make the prize somewhat larger, but $1G might be enough.
In article <keithley-220493104229@kip-37.apple.com> keithley@apple.com (Craig Keithley) writes: >Ah, there's the rub.  And a catch-22 to boot.  For the purposes of a >contest, you'll probably not compete if'n you can't afford the ride to get >there.  And although lower priced delivery systems might be doable, without >demand its doubtful that anyone will develop a new system...  You're assuming that the low-cost delivery system has to be a separate project.  But why?  If you are spending hundreds of millions of dollars in hopes of winning a billion-dollar prize, it is *cheaper* to develop your own launch system, charging its entire development cost against your contest entry, than to try to do it with existing launchers.  No other demand is necessary.  >> Any plan for doing >> sustained lunar exploration using existing launch systems is wasting >> money in a big way. > >This depends on the how soon the new launch system comes on line.  In other >words, perhaps a great deal of worthwhile technology (life support, >navigation, etc.) could be developed prior to a low cost launch system.  >You wouldn't want to use the expensive stuff forever, but I'd hate to see >folks waiting to do anything until a low cost Mac, oops, I mean launch >system comes on line.  You're assuming that it's going to take a decade to build a new launch system.  But why?  The Saturn V took less than six years, depending on exactly when you date its start.  Pegasus took about three from project start to first flight.  Before SDIO chickened out on orbital development, the target date for an orbital DC-Y flight was 1996.  If you really want speed, consider that the first prototypes of the Thor missile (still in service as the core of the Delta launcher) shipped to the USAF less than 18 months after the development go-ahead.
Hiya   I'm a VERY amuture astronomer in Adelaide Australia, and today, I heard some very interesting and exciting news from a local program on TV. As I couldn't find anything on it on the news server, I have posted this. However, if it is old information, tell me, and ill sue the TV station for saying they are  'Up to date' ;-)  (Also, my news server could be slow. . so . . .!!!  I only caught the end of the article, so all the information on the topic is not known to me at the moment.  The news is of a small 'psudo' planet outside the orbit of pluto found in a  Hawiian obsevatory, supposably 'recently' - acording to the report. It was meant to be about 150miles in diamater, and a faily large distance  from the plutos orbit.  (it had a computer drawing, and the orbit distance from pluto was about the same as neptune to pluto when they are furthest apart.  This is all I found out about it. OH it is called Karna. (un-officially ).   CAn anyone give any more information to me on it???  Thanx.  Brendan Woithe swoithe@crackle.aelmg.adelaide.edu.au  BTW - if this is old news, does anyone know a good lawyer. . . .8)
Several people have enquired about the availability of the book about the Great 72" reflector built at Birr Castle, Ireland in 1845 which remained the largest in the world until the the start of the 20th century.  "The Astronomy of Birr Castle" was written by Patrick Moore who now sits on the committee which is going to restore the telescope. (The remains are on public display all year round - the massive support walls, the 60 foot long tube, and other bits and pieces). This book is the definitivie history of how one man, the Third Earl of Rosse, pulled off the most impressive technical achievement, perhaps ever, in the history of the telescope, and the discoveries made with the instrument.  Patrick Moore is donating all proceeds from the book's sale to help restore the telescope. Astronomy Ireland is making the book available world wide by mail order. It's a fascinating read and by ordering a copy you bring the day when we can all look through it once again that little bit nearer.  =====ORDERING INFORMATION===== "The Astronomy of Birr Castle" Dr. Patrick Moore, xii, 90pp, 208mm x 145mm. Price: U.S.: US$4.95 + US$2.95 post & packing (add $3.50 airmail) U.K. (pounds sterling): 3.50 + 1.50 post & packing EUROPE (pounds sterling): 3.50 + 2.00 post and packing REST OF WORLD: as per U.S. but funds payable in US$ only.  PAYMENT: Make all payments to "Astronomy Ireland". CREDIT CARD: MASTERCARD/VISA/EUROCARD/ACCESS accepted by email or snail mail: give card number, name & address, expiration date, and total amount. Payments otherwise must be by money order or bank draft. Send to our permanent address: P.O.Box 2888, Dublin 1, Ireland.  You can also subscribe to "Astronomy & Space" at the same time. See below: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Ryan, "Astronomy & Space", new International magazine, available from:               Astronomy Ireland, P.O.Box 2888, Dublin 1, Ireland. 6 issues (one year sub.): UK 10.00 pounds, US$20 surface (add US$8 airmail). ACCESS/VISA/MASTERCARD accepted (give number, expiration date, name&address).
on Date: 01 Apr 93 18:03:12 GMT, Ralph Buttigieg <ralph.buttigieg@f635.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au> writes: /Why can't the government just be a tennant? Private commercial concerns /could just build a space station system and charge rent to the government /financed researchers wanting to use it.  I believe that this was the thought behind the Industrial Space Facility.  I don't remember all the details, but I think Space Services (?) wanted NASA to  sign an anchor tenancy deal in order to help secure some venture capital but  NASA didn't like the deal.  (I'm sure I'll hear about it if I'm wrong!)
Jeff.Cook@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM (Jeff Cook) writes: ... >people in primitive tribes out in the middle of nowhere as they look up >and see a can of Budweiser flying across the sky... :-D  Seen that movie already. Or one just like it. Come to think of it, they might send someone on a quest to get rid of the dang thing...  >Jeff Cook                                  Jeff.Cook@FtCollinsCO.NCR.com