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In article <1993Apr23.052741.28429@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes... >In article <1r6r9s$5ob@network.ucsd.edu>, king@cogsci.ucsd.edu (Jonathan King) writes: >>Which reminds me yet again of a Bucs-Cards game in Whitey Herzog's >>last year as Cards manager.  Karen and I were watching the game on TV, >>and for some barely explicable reason the camera kept dwelling on The >>White Rhino himself at his uniform-filling worst.  Truly horrible.  	Do you remember Game 7 of the 1988 NLCS, after the Dodgers defeated the Mets, and Ugh-a-dugh foo-boo fat stomach Tom Lasorda came running out on to the field in celebration?  YUCK!!!!!! 	He undulated.  His arms flew up and down, keeping time with his rolling set of 9 stomachs, which flew all around the cozy confines of Chavez Ravine.  He oozed, like a white gastropod.  He ran.  It was a  disgusting sight.  Not only couldn't I watch my Mets in the Series, I had to watch Fat Stomach Lasorda roll around Dodger.... 	BLARGH!  >>But what made it memorable was what Karen eventually said about this, >>which was: >> >>"I would rather sleep with a jar of Bill Landrum's spit under my pillow >> than look at Whitey Herzog in one of those uniforms."  	"If you like short, fat men, who grunt, curse, and spit a lot, Whitey's certainly your man" - Former WFAN host Pete Franklin, on The White Rat ... 	But it's true, this emphasis on the appearance of ballplayers in tight uniforms only works if the player actually has an extraodinary  physique.  Looking at Charlie Hough's scrawny torso through those tight white shirts just sort of makes me decide, "Hmmm, I don't want to eat lunch today...or tomorrow...or anytime soon...". 	When Al Harazin first became Mets' GM, he was asked if he intended to help redesign the Mets' uniforms and change their image.  In particular, they asked him about the orange and blue racing stripe that runs down the  sides the uniforms.  He said that he's very much in favor of keeping them because "they're sleek and they're sexy". 	Sid Fernandez, in a tight-fitting uniform, with a sleek racing stripe to denote speed and potencty.  Mmmmmmmm...lard. 	Kevin McReynolds, diving after a fly ball.  Mmmmmmmm...Man O' War, baby! 	Pat Howell....well, never mind.  Nothing could be tight on him.  They don't make uniform sizes *that* small ... :-)  >Adam "Wishes he contribute something more interesting to r.s.b" Levin
In article <1993Apr22.204633.1@woods.ulowell.edu> poiriera@woods.ulowell.edu writes: >	This chatting about the best player of all time is pointless.  You >can't compare players from different era's.    Of course you can.  You just have to be careful about what conclusions you draw.  >If you will notice the best >pitchers (stat wise were in the 20's and 30's) and the best all around hitters >probably came from the 40's to 60's.    Huh?  The 20's and 30's were the *worst* decades for great pitching.  Grove, Vance, Dean, and not a whole lot else.    As for the best all-around hitters, stat-wise, Ruth, Gehrig, Foxx, Greenberg, Hornsby, Cobb, etc. all played before the 40's.  Stat-wise, the 60's were  a graveyard for hitters.  >Now we have a great number of great >pitchers and an equally great number of great hitters and fielders. (Also,  How do you know?  Which ones do you consider great?  >about fielding, the gloves were much smaller than they are now in the early >years of baseball)  Maybe a hitter like Sheffield with the .330 BA, 30hr, and >100+ RBI(Even though it was probably a fluke year) can be compared to a Mantle >because the pitching Sheffield faces is faster and not to mention better. The  So?  Sheffield also has better shoes.  More time between pitches.  You can run the comparison, but there are *lots* of things to take into account.  >same could be said for Frank Thomas who is said to be the best hitter since Ted >Williams, although Frank's defense does suck.  Well, can we compare them or can't we?  >	All I am saying is that you can't compare players from different era's, >if you want a best player try choosing best players from different era's. That  Why?  We can compare players to the *standard* of their era; and we can keep in mind era-to-era differences without throwing up our hands in despair.  >way there is reasonable basis for comparison.  You haven't shown us what's *un*reasonable about the MAntle-Sheffield comparison that you yourself did.
In article <93095@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7469a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian R. Landmann) writes: >Later, in the ninth inning with the bases loaded and two outs he puts >lankford, a 300 hitter with power in as a pinch runner and uses Luis >Alicea, a 250 hitter with no power as a pinch hitter.  What the Hell >is he thinking.  Didn't Alicea get a hit, though?   See y'all at the ballyard Go Braves Chop Chop  Michael Mule'
Hey folks,  Saw the Giants play ball at the 'Stick Saturday, April 17.  It was the game where Pendelton broke up the scoreless tie in the ninth with a two-out, two-run homer to right to win it.  (It wasn't the game where the fans  threw the give-away "fotoballs" onto the field in response to the homer -- too bad, huh?)  Well, the 'Stick is still cold.  The Saturday game ended at 5:45pm, and it was cold then.  I can't imagine night games in April at the 'Stick.  The wind kicked up a little, too, and I got this idea.  At most games, there's a pile of hot dog wrappers and cups and trash on the field a lot of the time.  I propose a Kid's Clean-up Corps composed mainly of 10-12 year old kids who would love nothing better than to run out on the field in the fifth inning (when the guy in the Toro smooths the infield) and grab the trash.  It might not be glamorous, but at that age I probably would have given anything to be on the field with the ballplayers.  Everybody wins here!  Whaddaya think?
While I enjoy the trend towards the more classic style of uniform -  and I disagree with the person who wants a return to the non-gray road  uniforms - it should be remembered that one of the, if not THE reason  for the redesigning of uniforms, especially hats (re: the new road all  green A's caps and the cardinal navy blue road cap), is the marketing  money to be made in sales of new merchandise.
In article <1r93di$car@apple.com> chuq@apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: >punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi) writes: > >>Some evidence that is NOT working: > >Take a look at the standings. It's REAL easy to get so focussed on  >minutinae and forget that the Giants happen to be in first place. If it's >working, you don't SCREW IT UP by changing things, just because you think it >ought to be different.  So, that is the reason why the Toronto Blue Jays *should* keep Alfredo Griffin, just because it "worked"?  A team winning doesn't mean that everything that it's doing is right. A team not winning doesn't mean that everything that it's doing is wrong, or otherwise (to borrow the Sharks' situation) you would say that George Kingston should be fired.  >Some folks like to argue about theoretical details. I prefer to watch teams >win. When the Giants slip to third, then we can talk about how to re-arrange >the batting order. Until then, I think it's stupid to focus on what's wrong, >for the simple fact that IT'S WORKING AS IT IS.  By then, it's too late.  The problem with "not fixing something while it's working" is that by then, there may not be anything left to fix.  >Mostly, though, the Giants are winning, and frankly, as long as that >continues, it's rather silly to second-guess their strategy. But evidently, >some folks would rather be right than be first.  So, the Blue Jays were simply perfect last year; there was nothing that they could have done to have improved that team.  NOT.
In article <1993Apr15.001211.18457@adobe.com>, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes: |> In article <1993Apr14.200649.12578@pts.mot.com> ep502dn@pts.mot.com writes: |> >This certainly passes the "common sense test" for me, but is there any |> >statistical evidence to say what percent of defense is pitching and what |> >percent is fielding?  |>  |> Not yet; I wish there were.  It's much more difficult to tease these apart |> than to tease apart scoring runs and preventing runs.    And thus, we come to one of the true beauties of baseball; these things, along with many others will never be separated. Almost *everything* in baseball is situational and interdependent. This is what allows us to carry on all the arguments that we have. If everything could be explained and balanced on a statistical basis, none of the wonder and mystery would be left. Why we might have to resort to just going out the ballyard and enjoy the game itself.  --->Paul, feeling a little anti-stathead today --------------------------------------------------------------------------------            We will stretch no farm animal beyond its natural length    paula@koufax.cv.hp.com   Paul Andresen  Hewlett-Packard  (503)-750-3511
Mark Singer brings up the Strawberry Incident, where he lost a homerun and the fan caught it.  |> Before each Dodger game the public address announcer makes a speech |> wherein he says that fans are welcome to the souvenirs of balls that |> are hit into the stands as long as they do not interfere with any  |> that are in the field of play.  Was the fan wrong?  Should he have |> been more aware of the situation and acted to avoid any possibility |> of interference?   Yes, I think he should have done more to get out of the way.  As much as fans want to catch a ball, they really should be aware that winning the game is more important.  As a Dodger fan, he has to be aware that this is the home stadium, and that entails helping the home team win in any way possible.  As soon as the ball was hit that far, his first instinct should be to root for Darryl to catch it, not to try to catch it himself, particularly when he is sitting that close.  I enjoy the attitude of the Wrigley fans, where they are against  visiting team home runs so much, they actually throw them back on the field.  Now, this has nothing to do with whether Darryl could have caught it or not.  Sure, he probably screwed up, but the fan should realize his first responsibility is to get out of the way and help the team win.
>mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) said: >  >>Most catchers need to be solid defensively players to help their >>clubs in the bigs.  Those are the arguments against Lopez for the >>Braves for this year.  >>Now.  The Braves have two catchers who have demonstrated solid >>abilities to call games, to work with the pitchers, to throw out >>runners.    	This is the crux of the argument (to me at least).  Both the SDCN and the non-SDCN camps seem to agree on the fact that a catcher's defense is basically nonmeasurable at present.  You can talk about how important calling a game is, or framing the pitches, or blocking balls in the dirt.  But there is little or no way to tell exactly how various catcher's rank in "defense".    	Looking at Lopez specifically; is there any reason to suspect that he is a bad defensive catcher other then the fact that the Braves (or the media) has labeled him a bad defensive catcher?  As far as I can tell he doesn't have any particular problem in his mechanics (such as Sasser).  He might be a little rough around the edges in blocking the ball, or framing the pitch to get a good call but all he needs to clear that up is playing and practice time.  I can't see how repetitions at AAA are any better then reps in the majors!    	All we're left with is the calling the game aspect.  Olsen  and Berryhill at always given credit for calling good games and helping the pitchering staff.  But this is a reputation that is given to almost all veteran catchers.  How is catching at AAA going to help Lopez learn the major league pitching staff?  The only way any catcher is going to learn Tom Glavine's pitches is to catch Tom Glavine.  Similarly, I wouldn't be supprised if the pitcher's claimed to prefer pitching to Olsen over pitching to Lopez because they are used to pitching to Olsen.  But  given time they will say they are comfortable with Lopez.  	Now, since Lopez can't learn how to handle the major league pitcher's while he's in AAA and since he doesn't have any glaring problem in his mechanics, what is he going to learn in AAA that he can't learn just as well while in the majors?
Count me interested in a Cardinal's mailing list.  If anyone finds one or starts one, please let me know.  Thanks,  Dick Detweiler
In article <1993Apr15.145914.1575@csi.jpl.nasa.gov> cub@csi.jpl.nasa.gov (Ray Miller) writes: >I read this morning that Sid Fernandez left last nights' game with stiffness >in his shoulder. Does anyone have any information as to the extent of the >injury (if indeed there is one), or weather the cold air in Colorado just got >his joints a little stiff? > >Thanks for the help...  All they said on the radio that he developed stiffness in the shoulder after throwing a curveball that didn't loosen.  Because of the cold night in Denver they decided to remove him from the game rather than let him pitch.  He is expected to pitch his next turn in the rotation (expected to be April 20, at Shea vs the Giants).
Does anybody have a GIF of the Tiger Stadium seating chart?  Thanks! --  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Curran                 Mead Data Central              brian@meaddata.com
How does one read the betting spreads for baseball?  They tend to be something like 8-9 which means it must not be runs!  Thanks. --  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Rex Wood -- davewood@cs.colorado.edu -- University of Colorado at Boulder
Of all teams, I believe the Cubs have the best record ever in baseball. Sometime way far back. 110+ and something.
Does anyone have the scoop on Scot Erickson?  How long is he going to be out for?
In article <1993Apr23.135139.18749@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>, cs902060@ariel.yorku.ca (GEOFFREY E DIAS) writes: >  > 	The subject line says it all. What is the rule that qualifies > a pitcher as making a save? >  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 	As far as I know, a save opportunity is when it is 7th inning or beyond, and the batter on deck can either tie or win the ball game. 	For example If it is the bottom of the 8th inning and Clemens is pithching. The Red Sox are leading 4-1 and Clemens has just givin up a hit. So, there is a man on first, the batter, and the batter on deck could tie the game with a homer.  If Jeff Russel came in, (The Red Sox reliever), and finished the game without allowing the tieing or losing run to score, he would get the save and Clemens would get the win.                                                                      Thats how I beleive it works.
> = drm6640@tesla.njit.edu writes:  >1B Career:  DON MATTINGLY!!!!!!!!  Lou Gehrig, IRONMAN
In article <C5qGLD.Dut@cc.swarthmore.edu>, rbrooks1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Robert Brooks) writes: >wiawkph@dutrun2.tudelft.nl (K.P. Hart) writes: >> Sometime ago someone mentioned an ftp site run by USA Today that should >> give scores for "last night's" games. >> Can some kind soul e-mail me that address? >> Please. >> Thanks.  If anyone knows of such a site could they please send it to me also. thanks
Name            Pos   AB    H    2B    3B    HR    RBI    RS    SB    E    AVG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Galarraga       1B    54   23     6           2     15     6     1        .426 Sheaffer         C     3    1                                             .333 Boston          OF    28    9                        3     8              .321 Cole            CF    43   13     1     1            2    13     8        .302 Hayes           3B    46   13     2           3     11     7     2    3   .283 Bichette        RF    39   10     1           3     10     8     1        .256 E. Young        2B    51   13     2     1     1      7    12     9    3   .255 Tatum           3B     8    2     1                                       .250 Murphy          OF     8    2                        2                    .250 Clark           LF    37    9     3     1     1      3     3          1   .243 Girardi          C    45   10     2     1            3     3          1   .222 Castilla        SS     7    1                                         1   .143 Benavides       SS    35    5     1                  5     3          4   .143 PITCHERS         P    24    1                              1              .042 G. Young        OF     3                                   2          1   .000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Totals               431  112    19     4    10     61    66    21   14   .260  Name      L/R GS CG    IP     H    R    ER    K    BB    ERA    W    L    S --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aldred     L           6      4    3     1    3     8    1.50   0    0    0 Ashby      R   2  0   11     12    3     3    5     9    2.45   0    0    0  Wayne      L           3.7    4    1     1    3     2    2.45   0    1    0 Neid       R   4  1   29     27   11    10   15    10    3.10   3    1    0 Parrett    R          10      8    4     4   12     7    3.60   0    0    0 Smith      R   3  0   16.3   22    8     8    3     5    4.41   1    2    0 Blair      R           8      9    6     4    5     3    4.50   0    0    0 Ruffin     L   2  0    9.3   15    7     5    7     6    4.82   1    1    0 Henry      L   2  0   12.7   14    9     8    5     5    5.68   0    2    0 Reed       R           3.7    8    7     7    2     3   17.18   0    0    0 Holmes     R           2.3    8   10     9    3     4   34.71   0    1    0
In article <1993Apr19.061102.16204@r-node.hub.org> shadow@r-node.hub.org (Jay Chu) writes: > >Jackson is a bum.  And I thought the Jays were smart to get rid of Gruber. >Now we get equally bad!  I'm frustrated.  Pat Gillick is over rated.  Sure, >he did some good moves in the past, but releasing Wells (although his >temper sucks, but he's better than Morris/Stewart/Dayley).  If the Jays >were dumping salaries to keep $2mill Jackson, Dayley should be the one to >go before Wells.  Of course they dumped Dayley, but it's too late since  Dayley's salary was guarenteed...with Wells the Jays were only on the hook for 25%(?) of it.  Give Jackson a break...he lost about 10 pounds with that flu he had when he was traded.  >Wells was already claimed by the Tigers (0.6 ERA with 2 wins!).  Also, the >Jimmy Key and Winfield situations pissed the hell outta me.  Would you see >a championship club wanting to repeat so "badly" wanted to have such a  I would rather have Molitor than Winfield...Winfield was just hogging all the credit, and he was trying to soak the Jays for a 3 year guarenteed contract...  >great turnover?  No way.  Look at the Pittsburg Penguins.  They got some >aging players, but didn't make stupid trades to dump them cuz the fans love >those players and they are still the core of the team.  Anyways, I just >want to say that if the Jays go BELOW .500 this season, I won't be >surprised.  I'm not jumping off the bandwagon, I'm just talking smart >baseball.  No matter what, I'm still going to see most of the Jays games >even though I'm damn frustrated! >  The Jays pitching can only get better...Molitor and Alomar haven't hit anything yet...and the Jays are still over .500...
In <1993Apr19.024222.11181@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902043@ariel.yorku.ca (SHAWN LUDDINGTON) writes:  >Hey Valentine, I don't see Boston with any world series rings on their >fingers.  Damn, Morris now has three and probably the Hall of Fame in his  >future.  Therefore, I would have to say Toronto easily made the best  >signing.  And don't tell me Boston will win this year.  They won't  >even be in the top 4 in the division, more like 6th.  Yeah Valentine, how many rings does Clemens have?   Nothin' like good old fashioned Canadian logic...  BTW: The only good thing I can say about the Jay's rotation this year is that it could have been worse.  Stewart might have stayed healthy.               --
(Sean Garrison) writes:  >In article <1993Apr20.102857.1@tesla.njit.edu>, drm6640@tesla.njit.edu >wrote: >>  >> DON MATTINGLY IS THE BEST FIRST BASEMAN IN THE HISTORY OF BASEBALL.....ALWAYS >> HAS BEEN.....ALWAYS WILL BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   >Actually, Keith Hernandez is the best.  >                                    -Sean    >******************************************************************************* >  "Behind the bag!" >            - Vin Scully >*******************************************************************************  	I'll go with Mark Grace, and in 2 years, Frank Thomas.
Hi all,  I've been locked in a small closet chained to a lab bench for the last week or two without access to really important information.  I saw the 3.5 million shoulder back on the DL--How long is he out for (i.e. How many millions/inning will he get this year?)  Nothing personal against Higuera mind you, just wondering how Bud can keep coffing up money for him when he lets current big producers go over a relative pittance. (Please realize the term  "relative pittance" can only be used with sarcasm when discussing baseball salaries.)  Additional questions:  I did'nt get to see Bones pitch this spring--how is he looking and where is he going to fit in the rotation?  How is Surhoff shaping up defensively at third?  Are they going to build a new stadium?  When?
In article <93108.171548IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, Ryan Robbins <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes: |> This week's play: |>   It took three days to get to us, but I'll try anyway as I naturally haven't seen the answer.  |> With runners at first and second and one out, the batter hits an |> easy pop fly to the third baseman. |>  |> (A) The umpires declare the infield fly rule and the third baseman |> lets the ball drop. The runner at second heads for third and the |> third baseman flips the ball to the short stop who tags the bag |> before the runner.  SAFE. The correct call is "Infield Fly, (batter out) if fair". Runners may advance at own risk. (Gotta tag up if caught, etc.) It is not a force, and the pop was not caught, so regardless of whether the SS tags 3B or 2B (it wasn't clear, above), he hasn't got the runner out.  |> (B) The umpires don't declare the infield fly rule and the third |> baseman allows the ball to drop and throws to the short stop, who |> tags the runner from second while the runner is between second and |> third.  OUT. See rule 6.05(L) APPROVED RULING. (Below). In this case, the umpire has decided for whatever reason that the infield fly rule doesn't apply. (Sounds like a bad call here, but that's not the point). The batter is not out, so a force situation is created. Therefore, the runner is out.  ( UNLESS, by rule 6.05(L) the ball is dead AND the batter is safe, then I guess the runners would advance unmolested.  I can't really tell from 6.05(L) that the ball is dead in this situation.)  |>  |> What's the call in (A) and (B)?  Pertinent rules: 2.00 Definition of Infield Fly: "When an Infield fly is called, runners may advance at their own risk. If on an infield fly rule, the infielder intentionally drops a fair ball, the ball remains in play despite the provisions of Rule 6.05(L). The Infield Fly rule takes precedence."  6.05(L) A batter is out when: an infielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and thrid, or first,second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball is dead and the runners or runners shall return to their original base or bases. APPROVED RULING: In this situation, the batter is not out if the infielder permits the ball the drop untouched to the ground, except when the infield fly rule applies.