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In article 1443@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:  >Certainly pluggers are an integral part of any team.  And that is >simply because there are not enough solid two-way players to go  >around.  Who would you rather have as your "checking" centre?  Doug >Gilmour or Doug Jarvis?  For that matter I would take either Gretzky >or Mario as my "checking" centres.  Do you think Gretzky could cover >Bob Gainey?   Gretzky, Lemieux, Gilmour etc do not play the role of checking centreman. They play an offensive role as opposed to a defensive one.  If they were used as defensive centres it would be a waste of their offensive abilities.   When you compare Gretzky et al to Jarvis, Gainey etc you are comparing  apples and oranges.  It is like me telling you that Felix Potvin isn't  very good because a team would be better if the had Lemieux instead of him.  Sure Lemieux is a better player, but he is a different type of player.  For a team to be successful, they need to have all types of players- this includes defensive forwards.  When compared with other defensive forwards, Bob Gainey is the greatest defensive forward ever.  He is the player who's talents best suited being a defensive forward- who completely dominated the game when he played.  Maybe if a more talented player such as Gretzky had decided to waste his offensive talents and play defensively, he could have been a better defensive forward, but he wasn't.  Bob Gainey is the best defensive forward that has ever played hockey.
The goalie to whom you refer is Clint Malarchuk.  He was at that time playing with the Sabres.  His team immediately prior to that was the Washington Capitals.  While he did recover and continue to play, I do not know his present whereabouts.
Farewell, Minnesota fans.  Get stuffed, Dallas Stars.  As the North Stars fade to black, I hope that Minneapolis/St. Paul are not long without an NHL team.  It just seems "right" that the hotbed of amateur hockey in the USA should have an NHL team as well.  The loss of the team is certainly not the fault of the fans (though the start of the 1989-90 season made it look real bad for a while).  I wish now that I kept the North Stars cap I bought at Maple Leaf Gardens the morning after they eliminated Montreal in 1980.  (I got it to spite the Montreal fans in the small town where I grew up.)  What a glorious season that was for the North Stars!       dwarf
>However, Bowman is really not a modern coach, and >Patrick's solution of having him only run the team on game days, and >delegate most of the day-to-day responsibity to the assistants is >a shrewd managerial decision on Patrick's part.    I would argue Gerald, that Bowman is the first "modern" coach. Bowman's Canadiens were the first NHL team to have a weight-room in the 70s.  He is the first coach I have seen, that manipulates the press into spreading false game plan rumours.  (During important games listen to the pre-game interview will Bowman and compare that to what is on the ice!)  I agree Bowman is a master of the lineups.  Remember last year in the SC when he benched Jagr only to set him free  in OT.  When Jagr banged in the winning goal I thought this was trademark Bowman and also a sign of a modern coach!  I am left asking "What is a modern coach if not Bowman?"
Could someone post the Flyers record with and without Eric Lindros in the lineup   I have a guy that is trying to compare the Quebec/Flyers trade to the   Dallas/Minnesota trade in the NFL(Hershel Walker)  I just need the stat to back up my point that Eric will be one of the next  great players  thanks
dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes:  >Actually this stuff from Mogilny doesn't surprise me all that much.  About 4  >or 5 weeks ago I read in the Toronto Sun a quote from Alex; it went something >like [sarcastically]:  >"Yep, Patty's the man.  He's responsible for the team's success...I'm a  >nobody around here."  >I was going to post it at the time...I must have forgot since nobody else  >Gee, kinda like Alex's spot on the team, isn't it?    How can you assume it was a sarcastic remark?
joe13+@pitt.edu (Joseph B Stiehm) writes: >  > Come on Boston, where the hell are you? Seven wins in a row and what, choke?  Ah well, another Brian Sutter team is ground into the dirt with intensity during the regular season and then is burned out by playoff time. Yah Fuhr has been awesome so far, but really you'd think Sutter would have learned his lesson about pushing his team too far during the regular season.
Ditto...  If we allow people like him to continue to do what he does, it's a shame.  People say that cheap shots and drawing penalties by fake- ing is part of the game, I say "Bullsh-t!".  If he ever tried some like that on a Yzerman, he'd would have to deal with Probert now wouldn't he?  What Ulf does isn't even retaliatory!  There's now way one could justify what he does and if they do they're fools.
In article <1993Apr14.010305.1737@ncsu.edu>, fmsalvat@eos.ncsu.edu (FRANK MICHAE SALVATORE) writes: >  >> Bad news for the Patrick division next year.  Caps GM David Polie is >> reportedly trying to get a front office job with the NHL.  I can't >> believe Polie has not been fired despite 10 years of mediocrity. >>   	You know what Frank? It's not David Poile's fault that the Caps have mired in mediocrity for so long. Blame it on the owner, Abe Polin! This guy owns both the NBA's Bullets and the NHL's Capitals. How dumb and selfish could this guy be? He's unwilling to spend the bucks in  order to get a big star to Landover...no wonder both teams STINK!  	I've heard that the Capitals had a chance to get Detroit's Steve Yzerman last summer but they pulled out at the last minute. Why? Because our good man, Abe, is afraid to spend the cash!  	Nevertheless, I'm still faithful and hoping that one day this devilish dictator will be replaced.  >> Frank Salvatore >> fmsalvat@eos.ncsu.edu
In article <C4zCII.Ftn@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> smale@healthy.uwaterloo.ca (Bryan Smale) writes: >                         MVP           Biggest       Biggest >                                       Suprise       Disappointment  >Los Angeles Kings       Robitaille     Donnelly      Hrudey   I would have chosen Alex Zhitnik for biggest suprise.  They did expect that he would become a great defenseman, but I don't think anyone knew that he was going to be this impressive in his  rookie year.  His speed, skating ability, and puck control is exceptional -- he is the one to watch on the Kings.   Kris kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu  GO KINGS!
Well, I will have to change the scoring on my playoff pool.  Unfortunately I don't have time right now, but I will certainly post the new scoring rules by tomorrow.  Does it matter?  No, you'll enter anyway!!!  Good!  --     Keith Keller				LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!! 						LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!! 	kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu		IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!
In article <93105.053748RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu (Robbie Po) writes:   > >      The Penguins 18 game unbeaten streak carries over to next season. >Meaning, if they start the season with another 18 game unbeaten streak, they >will have eclipsed the Flyers record.  Right now, the Penguins are on an 11 >game winning streak, as streaks carry over from one year to another.  Hmmmm, I'm not sure this is true.  According to Mike Lang and good old Stagie, along with the rest of the TV crews in pittsburgh, they  winning streak could have stopped because it is a regular season mark. I would think this would also hold with an unbeaten streak for regular season games.
TSN Sportsdesk just reported that the OTTAWA SUN has reported that Montreal will send 4 players + $15 million including Vin Damphousse  and Brian Bellows to Phillidelphia, Phillie will send Eric Lindros to Ottawa, and Ottawa will give it's first round pick to Montreal.   If this is true, it will most likely depend on whether or not Ottawa gets to choose 1st overall.  Can Ottawa afford Lindros' salary?   Personally, I can't see Philli giving up Lindros -- for anything.   They didn't give away that much to Quebec just to trade him away  again.  Not to mention that Lindros seems to be a *huge* draw in Phillie -- and that he represents a successful future for the  franchise.   Ottawa may be better off taking the 4 players +$15 from Montreal for the pick.
In article <C62xpu.MD3@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> hunter@nsslsun.nssl.uoknor.edu (Steve Hunter) writes: >I'm a hockey fan from way back, and maintain an interest as best I can >here in the hockey hinterlands (Oklahoma).  I'm hoping I can get a >reading from some of you about the move of the North Stars to Dallas. > >I've been under the impression that Minnesota was one of, or possibly, >THE hockey state in the U.S.  So why is the team moving to a city in >Texas?  Is it that the owner is a greedy, self-serving profiteer, or >were the Stars really not making a profit?  Or was the city or whoever >owned the arena doing some price gouging? > >Opinions, please.   Well, as a hockey fan, I think it's terrible. It's one thing to say, "Hey,  let's give a hockey team to cities that don't have one!" -- that's fine. It's entirely another to say, "Okay, let's take a team from a thriving hockey town and move it!"   Of course, none of us will ever know the real inside story, but from what I know, a group of Minneapolis businessmen told Green repeatedly that they would purchase the remaining 3600 (?) season tickets to get to the 10,000 level that Green wanted, yet he refused every time. It's pretty obvious that he was determined to get out of Minneapolis at any cost and use the season tickets thing as an excuse.   I was fortunate enough to get to the penultimate game, and the fans were great! People were tailgating and playing roller hockey in the parking lot before the game, the attendance was so full as to have SRO, and the whole atmosphere in the Centre was terrific. Minnesota IS Hockey, USA. How the NHL can so blithely let the major league team from there move away is beyond  me. I only hope they get a new team soon.  Just my $0.02.   -- Ali.
icop@csa.bu.edu (Antonio Pera) writes:   >	The presence of the new team in Miami(I can't say South Florida; >it's too long) makes me think of an interesting question. Can you sell >the Hispanic community on Hockey? Miami is 60-70% Hispanic. This community >has no experience and no previous exposure to Hockey that I know of. The >teams in NY and LA which also have big Hispanic groups do not seem to try >to woo this group. What will Miami do? Could they get Spanish-language >tv and radio coverage? I think, as do the owners, that hockey will do well in Miami since there is a lot of people from the Northeast that spend their winters in Florida every year. As for the coverage, someone will have to come up with some money for that since broadcast rights can be expensive!  Just my $0.02!  Dale
What are the Leafs to do?  I am a Leaf supporter and I say the Leafs are going down in four unless there is nothing short of a miracle or a stroke of genenius hits Pat Burns.  If you were Pat Burns what would you do?  Living in the Bay area, I do not get enough Leaf coverage to pull something out of the bag,  (I would appreciate comments on the Leaf/Detroit 3rd line match-ups)  but here is the basic idea...  Andreychuck and Borchevsky have no business playing against  the Wings.  They are too small.  The key to any Leafs success will have to be Clark.  He is the only centre who can have any presence within 3-stick lengths of the slot.  Where the hell is Anderson?  Anderson can (in days past) get under peoples skin.  Put a little more bluntly, Anderson has to be an asshole. He used to be good at it.  We need him now.    Perhaps, perhaps the Leafs can shut down Detroit's second line. I was dissappointed to see Shepard and Yserbeart flying last night. These guys are the "swing" players for the Wings.  Last year they did a major choke in the playoffs and were to blame for the quick exit of the Wings.  **THis has to happen again**.   Clark-Anderson-Gilmour should be able to out hustle this line.  Anderson should do a nasty on Yserbeart.  Clark should bang the hell out of Sheppard.   Score Gilmour score!  Suggestions:  Clarke-Anderson-Gilmour vs. Sheppard-Yserbeart-?? 	      Andreychuck-Borchevsy-??  vs. Detroit checking line 	      Toronto's checking line  vs. Yzerman-Fedorov-Probert (pray lots)  * as suggested - i would bench Andreychuck and Borchevsky to stir things up 		 and through a monkey wrench into Detroits game plan.  However, 		if the Detroit coaching would be dumb enough to play their 		checking line against these "finesse" players - well then 		let them play.  ** Potvin can not be faulted on 5 of the goals - keep him in. ** Van Hellamond can not be faulted for the Leafs demise either. ** The Wings defense shut down the Leafs (especially in the slot).  I hope Pat Burns realizes that his team was out-hit, out-skated, and out-coached on Monday night.  This was not a loss because of poor goaltending or officiating.  This calls for drastic measures ... or tee off is next Monday.   -jake.
In article <C5JunA.4vH@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> layfield@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Colin Layfield) writes: >In article <C4wty9.40u@mcs.anl.gov> mwm@aps.anl.gov writes: >>In article 5KL@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca, kwk2chow@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (KEVIN C.) writes: >>> (Thanks for the goals by Steve Smith)  >>I don't see why more people don't blame grant fuhr for the goal that smith  >>put in his own net, it's common to play the puck back to your own goalie when >>deep in your own end and under little or no pressure from the offensive team. >>If fuhr had been in position the puck would have never crossed the line. >> >>Mike McDowell > >I have to disagree with you on this one.  It is anything BUT common.  In the >4 or 5 years I have been watching hockey I have NEVER seen this happen EVER. > >I am not sure what league you have been watching.  :-) > >Anyone else agree with this?  Yes, Colin... I have to agree with you here...  I've put the puck in my own net the same way Smith did... (only once, mind you :-) and it was definitely my fault.  It is NOT a common play to play the puck the way that Smith did.    Luckily, for me...  when I did it... it was only a scrimmage :-)
The mission to revive hockey at UMass is now underway. At the  4 PM Saturday afternoon press conference held at the new Mullins Center Arena - former Boston College Asst. Coach Joe Mallen was awarded the 4 year, $85,000/year contract as Head Coach for the UMass Minutemen.   Mallen was the third viable pick for the position, right behind Jeff Jackson (Lake Superior) and second behind Shawn Walsh (UMaine). Previous offers for  the position were rumored to have been offered to the asst. coaches of Brown, RPI and the head coach of the AHL Springfield Indians.  UMass hockey was disbanded in 1979 due to financial constraints that had undermined the team's position over a period of years. In late November of last year, the $52 million Mullins Sports Center was opened following its one year construction deadline.   The Minutemen are slated to play an independent Div II/Div III schedule this upcoming winter before officially entering Hockey East for the Winter 1994 season. Mallen has yet to comment on player recruitment strategies or potential team candidates for the Minutemen - it is expected that he will leverage off his inside contacts within New England, the Bay State and Europe to draw on competitive, top ice players for the University.  UMass has slated 18 hockey scholarships for the upcoming Fall semester ;  expect to hear more from me as I hear more from my sources.  .... J.D.   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Jim Doyle 	Univ. of Massachusetts - Dept. of Computer Science  Staff Programmer	PUMA/DCC/CNET	 email:	doyle@gaia.cs.umass.edu
In article <1993Apr20.184627.4585@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902043@ariel.yorku.ca (SHAWN LUDDINGTON) writes:  >As for the picks >Ottawa picks #1 which means it is almost 100% that Alexander Daigle will  >go #1. He'll either stay or be traded in Montreal or Quebec.  IMO I would >take Kariya.  He should alot of leadership in the NCAA and so far in >the World Championships.  Daigle didn't show this for his junior team. > >San Jose will then get Kariya. > >Tampa Bay will either go for a russian Kozlov (I think that's it) or a  >    defenseman Rob Niedemeyer (probably spelt the last name wrong)  The last name is Niedermayer, as in New Jersey's Scott's last name, because (you guessed it) they are brothers.  But Rob Niedermayer is a center, not a defenseman.  I am not sure that the Sharks will take Kariya.  They aren't saying much, but they apparently like Niedermayer and Victor Kozlov, along with Kariya.  Chris Pronger's name has also been mentioned.  My guess is that they'll take Niedermayer.  They may take Pronger, except that they already have too many defensive prospects.
In article <1993Apr15.000256.24403@sol.UVic.CA> gballent@vancouver.UVic.CA writes: >What it comes down to is that Jagr, despite being an arrogant asshole, is a >very good hockey player who has had a better season this year than Ron Francis. >Jagr has more points and a better +/-.  Jagr has a higher +/-, but Francis has had more points.  And take it from an informed observer, Ronnie Francis has had a *much* better season than Jaromir Jagr.  This is not to take anything away from Jaro, who had a  decent year (although it didn't live up to the expectations of some).   >Gregmeister  Dean --
Do the Isles have another defenseman to insert into the line-up besides Pilon??? Once again, last night's STUPID penalty put the Isles in a hole for the remainder of regulation and 2 minutes into overtime!!! Even though the Isles nearly survived Pilon's blunder in regulation, it was the most inopportune time for a 5-minute major penalty. Instead of confronting Cote as he came across the blueline, Pilon backed up and swiped at Cote's nose with his stick. Al Arbour can't be serious to think Pilon is the guy to have out there with the game on the line??? I heard Scott LaChance is out till later in the series, but there must be someone else!!! Bring back the BAMMER, Dave Langevin!!!!  *******************************LETS GO ISLANDERS********************************  John Scialdone SCIALDONE@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV
In article <allan.735284991@swanlake> allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan) writes: >Next, a clip was shown from an earlier episode, in which Don was >proclaiming Doug Gilmour to be the best player, not only in >the NHL, but in the world. What about players like Lemieux? >Don said that Gilmour was the best PLAYER, not "Designated point getter". >Its not like baseball, where you have a "designatted hitter" who >can score runs but can't play defense. Gilmour is a good two way player.  What can you expect from a buffoon who said that the Pens should have drafted Kirk Muller instead of Mario Lemieux?    Perhaps once upon a time Don Cherry had some insight into the game of hockey, but he's really degenerated into a parody of himself.
But I have to agree.. Boston is a good team..  But streaky...  They put together a great streak to capture first place in the Adams, but for what?  They have lost the home ice advantage for at least the first round, and might not make it out of it.  I would love to see the Sabres win the first round, even though I bet on the Bruins (a 12-pack).    Oh well, perhaps I should start betting against the Sabres more often! ;-)
In article <1r23on$4p6@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ching@bigwpi.WPI.EDU ("The   Logistician") writes: >  > I am in need of all of the players wearing #77 in the NHL.  I know now   only > of one, Ray Borque for the Bruins.  Any help would be greatly   appreciated. >  > Thanx.   Pierre Turgeon, formely of the Sabres and now of the Isles wears #77 (at   least he did in Buffalo ...)
rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:  >    Okay, the stretcher remark was a little carried away. But the point is that >I resent NHL owners drafting all these Europeans INSTEAD of Canadians (and >some Americans). It denies young Canadians the opportunity to play in THEIR >NORTH AMERICAN LEAGUE and instead gives it to Europeans, who aren't even >better hockey players. It's all hype. This "European mystique" is sickening, >but until NHL owners get over it, Canadian and American players will continue >to have to fight harder to get drafted into their own league.  According to what reasonable principle of justice does standing in intimate geographical and psychological relations to a league give one some privileged right to play in it?
I loved the ABC coverage. The production was excellent. The appearance was excellent. It had a sleek modern look. This was the first time I heard Thorne & Clement & I thought they were great. My only request is to leave Al Micheals out of this. He annoys me.  	I'm hoping this leads to a regular-season contract. My guess would be is that it will be roughly a weekly game from Feb.-April and then the  playoffs. I envy you Canadians with your TSN & CBC. Maybe I'll get a dish to pick up Canadian TV. How much are those things, BTW?
With everyone bitching about the hockey coverage by ESPN its almost like the  Detroit-Toronto game was not televised last nite.  I was just thankful to see hockey on a night that it wasn't supposed to be carried.  Thanks to ESPN, no matter why they televised the game
In article <1993Apr21.142357.14164@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes: >Fuhr is proving the Fuhr-bashers wrong, but Boston is an awfully >good team. >  Yeh,but :  1.Biran Sutter's playoff record as the head coach in St.L wasn't very impressive. His Blues teams were eliminated very early in the playoffs. It doesn't look like this trend will change with the Bruins.  2. Bruins have never come back to win after falling behind 2-0 in their entire 68-year history. It doesn't look like Buffalo will just lose their next two games at the Aud with the way Fuhr has been standing on his head.  Basically,the Bruins will be on the golf course by next weekend. Also,it seems like the whole Boston area has gone baseball crazy after an incredibly great start by the Red Sox(best record in their major leagues as of now). I would say that 70% of the callers to the Bruins' flagship station(SportsRadio 590) are talking about the Red Sox,about 15% are yapping about the Patriots' upcoming draft,10% are on the Celtics and about 5% are on the Bruins. Somehow,no one around here is really schocked the way Bruins are folding early.
In article <MfpIRbO00WBLI1ispC@andrew.cmu.edu> "William K. Willis" <ww1a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > >     As a person who has rarely even SEEN Don Cherry and doesn't know >anything about him, I don't know whether it is just this area >(Pittsburgh) of the USA that is "deprived" of his broadcasts or whether >he's a Canadian thing altogether.  Seriously, what is he all about?  I >know he was a coach at one time, and from the volume of posts about him, >SOMEONE surely is getting a steady diet of him somehow, but my question >is, what is the deal with him?  Secondly, are the comments of his that I >read about on the net merely flame bait, or do people actually take him >seriously?  I gotta tell you, from what I see, he really sounds like an >ass.  Let me know - maybe I'm missing something. >  For those of you who complain about Don Cherry, and wonder why he is popular...  the reply is Dick Vitale and John Madden and Bobby Knight and Joe Garagiola and Howard Cosell.  John Madden picks Gary Clark of the Redskins for his All-Madden team a lot, over much better receivers...for much the same reasons Cherry sings the praises of Doug Gilmour...a little guy with heart...yet one doesn't see a string of American posts saying that John Madden has lost his marbles.  Dick Vitale is always promoting this kid from this high school or that college with outrageous statements.  Why should Americans expect that Canada would not have such characters in relation to our greatest passion...which is hockey?   Canadians are very similar to Americans...culturally our sports are just hockey and curling, whereas with Americans it is football/basketball/baseball and bowling.