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Could we plase cease this discussion.  I fail to see why people feel the need  to expound upon this issue for days and days on end.  These areas are not meant for this type of discussion.  If you feel the need to do such things, please take your thought elsewhere.  Thanks.
srihari@cirrus.com (Srihari Shoroff) writes:  >In <Ifn=sPO00iV18_A8NZ@andrew.cmu.edu> jr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason M. Roth) writes:  >>>R&T had an article on cars of the SC1 ilk and they liked the Civic Ex, >>>the Escort GT and the MX-3 best of all, and the SC1 was way down the >>>list except for braking.  >>I just looked at that article; first of all, this summary is inaccurate; >>of 10 cars, the SC1 was 5th, right behind these mentioned and the Suzuki >>Swift (!). As has been pointed out, it was a semi-silly comparison; the >>Saturn was at least $500 cheaper than the MX-3 and Escort (admittedly >>negligible, but an issue), and $1500 (!)less than the Honda. The stated >>goal was a base under $12k; the Honda was $500 over, while the SC2 at >>the same price was excluded. In other words, they let the best Honda >>play, but not the best Saturn.  Note that the Saturn did beat the $13k  >I dont know about the car comparison but as far as the price goes rest >assured that the street prices for the MX-3 and Escort and (maybe) even >the Honda will be lesser than that of the Saturn you're talking about. >All price comparisons I've seen are based on MSRP and of course the >saturn dealer will sell the car for sticker price whereas the others >will do it way below sticker.  >Srihari 	 	I'd hate to rehash an old thread, but...  Would someone kindly quote a prices that a dealer quotes for a Civic EX, and Escort GT.  Also, I'm a assuming that the MX-3 was the V-6, so go ahead and look that up, too.  If  someone has one of those yearly buyers' guides that give a low quote price, please quote them, too.  Then find the the SC1 base price.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw Subject: Re: Quick question Summary: Expires: Sender: Reply-To: ct22@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Constantino  Tobio) Followup-To: Distribution:  Organization: Columbia University Keywords: Removing panels.  In article <1993Apr5.211457.12789@ole.cdac.com> ssave@ole.cdac.com (The Devil Reincarnate) writes: > How do you take off the driver side door panel from the inside >on an '87 Honda Prelude?  The speaker went scratchy, and I want >to access its pins. > > I see only one press button and the rest is snug fit. > > > -S > ssave@ole.cdac.com  Quick question. Why are you posting this to a VW newsgroup?  Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw Subject: Re: Quick Question Summary:  Distribution: world Organization: Columbia University Keywords:   Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw Subject: Re: Quick question Summary: Expires: References: <1993Apr5.211457.12789@ole.cdac.com> Sender: Reply-To: ct22@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Constantino  Tobio) Followup-To: Distribution:  Organization: Columbia University Keywords: Removing panels.  In article <1993Apr5.211457.12789@ole.cdac.com> ssave@ole.cdac.com (The Devil Reincarnate) writes: > How do you take off the driver side door panel from the inside >on an '87 Honda Prelude?  The speaker went scratchy, and I want >to access its pins. > > I see only one press button and the rest is snug fit. > > > -S > ssave@ole.cdac.com
I am currently in the car market and would like opinions on a VW Passat GLX.  How does it compare to a Toyota Camry?  I thought the car looked very solid, stable and European.  Only disappointment so far is that that it doesn't offer an airbao my next question is, why isn't VW offering automobiles with airbags?  Should I pay the extra three thousand for a BMW 318 is even though it is smaller and less powerful than than the Passat?
In article <1993Apr23.172824.17128@telxon.mis.telxon.com> joes@telxon.mis.telxon.com (Joe Staudt) writes:   > Newsgroups: rec.autos > Path: eclipse!yktnews.watson.ibm.com!newsgate.watson.ibm.com!news.ans.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!louie!udel!news.intercon.com!psinntp!telxon.mis.telxon.com!joes > From: joes@telxon.mis.telxon.com (Joe Staudt) > Organization: TELXON Corporation > References: <Apr22.202724.24131@engr.washington.edu> <1993Apr23.132214.6755@cs.tulane.edu> <1r8ufk$fr7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 17:28:24 GMT > Lines: 30 >  > In article <1r8ufk$fr7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A.  > Spencer) writes: > > > >In a previous article, finnegan@nrlssc.navy.mil () says: > > > >>In article <Apr22.202724.24131@engr.washington.edu> > >>eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot) writes: > >>> > >>>the subarus all use 180 degree vees in their engines..  :-) > >>> > >>> > >>>eliot > >> > >>Wouldn't that make them an I4?  Or would they  > >>really be an _4 (henceforth referred to as > >>"underscore 4")? > > > >i think that it is technicaly known as a 180 degree vee configuration. > >(could be wrong....this is how i've seen them referred to) > >DREW >  > I've always heard them referred to "horizontally opposed"... >  > Joe >
rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen) writes:   >Last night I had a dream that my dad bought a Viper. >I took it out for a test drive, without his knowledge, >and had to push it all the way home just to avoid a ticket. >Wierd dream, I wonder what it means....  Vell...Let's see...vas you muzzah in der passenger seat?  Or vas you muzzah in der leefing room, vit you fazah?
In article <C5zzD8.1Kt@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> marshatt@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Zauberer) writes: >Disclamer: this is not a flame.. if you anger easily please go on. >>petebre@elof.iit.edu (BrentA. Peterson) writes: > >>The next Mustang will be Ford's highest profile car.  It attracts >>way more attention than the Camaro/Firebird because it's heritage >>is more embedded in the general public.  Don't lie to yourself and >>believe Ford will forfeit that. > >FYI: they already did.  Oh, really. When?  >Too bad that the current Mustang can't even compete with the new >Camaro without using an active imagination.  The '93 Mustang Cobra can. Check it out.  >Right now few cars can compare with the '93 Camaro, Think about it.. >20,000 for a car that will out perform all but a few exotics. >If you are now swearing at me look at the stats...they don't lie. > There are NO comparable cars in it's class, certinaly not for its price.  Ehhhh, maybe. The '93 Mustang Cobra does a good job for a lower price, and it's just a taste of what's ahead in the 30th Anniversary of the original Pony Car.  >>Unless the Ford gets the 32v, 300hp Romeo.  You don't seriously believe >>that it was designed for the Mark VIII only, do you? >> >Hey, can you imagine the potential of a MODIFIED LT-1!!!!!!! >Folks in a few years we will surpass the levels of performance  >achieved in the late '60's, thats scary.  Just think! Corvettes are almost up to the performance levels of a '65 Cobra! Wow! In a few years, they might be up to the performance levels of a '66 Ford GT-40. Wow, man, just think about it... ;-)  				James
In article <buck.735568034@granite> buck@granite.ma30.bull.com (Ken Buck) writes: >(unless you live in an area that gets frequent damaging hail storms)
In article <4fjDcfu00iV2I9Kap_@andrew.cmu.edu> "Jason M. Roth" <jr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >>I can't imagine any Civic or Saturn owners flex'n there egos in stop light >>races. It generates as much excitement as two nerds challenging each other >>in a game of one-on-one basketball!! > >The SL2 does 0-60 in about 8.5; note that this is closer to a 968 than >to a Paseo or Storm (pseudo-sporty cars). That's a ridiculous >comparison, I know, but the point is that Saturns (and high-end Civics, >for that matter) accelerate just fine, in fact better than most >unimproved "muscle" cars of the 60s; 300 hp is great, but tied to 2 >tons, it just doesn't go that quick. Saturns, on the other hand, use 125 >hp tied to 2400 lbs with some short gearing to move very quickly off the >line. Anyway.... > > >  While your 0-60 time is consistent with most car magazines and reports, I saw the PBS MotorWeek show clock a 5-speed SL2 at 7.9 seconds.  I'm sure that most SL2 owners will be VERY lucky to get this speed, but 7.9 seconds is still astonishingly fast for a small 4-door.  A new Civic EX runs about 8.2 seconds 0-60, if I'm not mistaken.  Most cars in this class are lucky to be in the 9-second range.
In article <1993Apr3.005245.10615@michael.apple.com> ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith) writes: >Does it take any peculiar tools to remove the rear springs from a Ford >F350 truck? o
I'm wondering if anybody else out there is a clutchless shifter? I've been doing it my self over 200,000 miles, on my current toyota truck I've got over 150k. I've heard people talk about how doing this can damage a transmission. My experiences suggest otherwise. What techniques do you use?  On some old pieces of junk I drove, the transmission was so worn that pumping the clutch was the only way to shift, except clutchless. To date I've driven rabbits, datsuns, comets, fords & a chevy. Some where harder than others to shift but generally the higher the milage the smoother quicker & easier they where to shift.  My technique is to ease back off the throttle and at the same time gently wrist back on the shift lever. If for some reason I miss the shift window, I lightly press the accelerator & try agian. I've found that clutchless shifting is eaiser/quicker at high rpms (4000-7000). I also skip gears some times using 1-3-5 ,1-2-4-5.
In a previous article, gwm@spl1.spl.loral.com (Gary W. Mahan) says:  >>>Dont get me wrong, I love to drive in the left lane fast but when I overtake> >>>cars who are on the right, I slow down a tad bit. If I were to rely on the j>udgement of the other car, to recognize the speed differential, I would be the stupid one.   > >>just to satiate my curiosity, why would this make you the stupid one?  It seems >>to me, everybody SHOULD be aware enough of what is going on.  You do not need > >I couldnt agree more.  That is how it SHOULD work. People should also ALWAYS see motorcycles too. > >I CONSTANTLY scan behind me (I have one of those wink mirrors) and two outside mirrors.  I actually spend just as much time checking my six (cops you know). > >I still get caught off guard every now and then.  > > >Maybe I didnt word it right the first time.  What I was trying to say was that if you plan to blow by somebody at a very HIGH speed differential and you assume you are safe because the guy sees you, you are stupid (of course, it depends on the circumstances).  I have had some VERY scary instances when I assumed this and I dont think all of the fault was the other guy (now if he was going 25 in a 55 thats a whole different story)
In article <1r8uckINNcmf@gap.caltech.edu> wen-king@cs.caltech.edu (Wen-King Su) writes:   > Path: eclipse!yktnews.watson.ibm.com!hawnews.watson.ibm.com!newsgate.watson.ibm.com!news.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!wen-king > From: wen-king@cs.caltech.edu (Wen-King Su) > Newsgroups: rec.autos > Date: 23 Apr 1993 14:27:32 GMT > Organization: California Institute of Technology > Lines: 9 > References: <1r72ejINNk2j@gap.caltech.edu> <1r7cr2INNvar@sumax.seattleu.edu> > NNTP-Posting-Host: neptune.cs.caltech.edu > Keywords: Mercury, Villager, minivan, van, cars, Jittlov >  > In article <1r7cr2INNvar@sumax.seattleu.edu> smorris@sumax.seattleu.edu (Steven A. Morris) writes: > >The Villager-Quest seem like the best of the Cravan/Voyager copies to > <come along since the Mazda MPV.  The NISSAN MAXIMA engine paired with > >the MAXIMA 4 speed Auto Trans should be an excellent drive train, and > <the rest of the vehicle seems well engineered.  Only the price is > >controversial. >  > Hmm.  The last time I checked, Villager/Quest does not have a Maxima > engine, and is very much under powered for its weight.   Same engine, different state of tune (less hp and maybe more torque). My friend at work regularly takes 6 people in his and it seems to haul around just fine.
GK>I hear that tires for this car can get really expensive.  I GK>currently have Goodyear GT+4s that cost the previous owner $500 GK>for four.  Try Eagle GAs, wear better, cost less, lose little handling, and are quieter.  I'm going to switch to 225s in my next set, with new rims (Fitti Twists) if I can afford 'em by the time my GAs wear out.  GK>is a whole new ritual for me with that fangled pedal!  Also, I began GK>to wonder how strong that brake really is.  (Today, I backed out of GK>parking spot today and started to drive away before I noticed GK>the glowing brake light.  Oops.)  Mine is strong enough to not let the car move when it's in, even if you're giving it enough gas to normally move it in 1st.  You might need a brake adjustment.  GK>The driver's power window creaks when closed all the way.  The same GK>thing happens in my parents 1989 Mercury Sable.  Oddly, all the GK>other windows work smoothly.  Watch it closely, the glass actually flexes from the torque in the motor, it seems stronger in the drivers window then the others.  GK>I'm liking the interior amenities more and more each day.  The GK>cupholders are great.  I've found the location (under the armrest in between the seats) to be a pain, but like having them.  They moved it into the dash (pop out) in the '91 model year, MUCH better.  GK>I really feel like I don't deserve this car.  I really can't GK>believe that I could afford it.  I got this car ten years GK>ahead of schedule.  :-)  I did the same thing.  Got a black '89 with 65.5k miles on it for $8k in July '92.  GK>I've put together the responses to my questions about the cars, as GK>well as other posts with useful information on these cars.  I'll be GK>posting this in the form of a FAQ soon.  Grabbed it and archived it.  Thanks!  GK>If anyone is interested in starting a mailing list, please speak up! GK>I don't know if I have the resources here at Purdue to start one, but GK>maybe someone out there does.  I'll be starting one this summer, one way or the other (current software I use dosen't support mailing lists, but is on the RSN list - if not, I'm going to upgrade to another package that DOES have it), that is, if nobody else beats me to it.  Will make an announcement here when it goes up.
In article <1993Apr21.171811.25933@julian.uwo.ca> wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes: > >In article <66758@mimsy.umd.edu> davew@cs.umd.edu (David G. Wonnacott) writes: >>I'm considering switching to Geico insurance, but have heard that >>they do not assign a specific agent for each policy or claim.  I was >>worried that this might be a real pain when you make a claim.  I have >>also heard that they try to get rid of you if you have an accident. > >I've read in this group that Geico has funded the purchasing of radar >guns by police depts (I'm not sure where).   Geico has purchased radar guns in several states, I know they have done it here in CT.  I have also heard horror stories about people that have been insured by Geico for years and then had 1 accident and were immediately dropped.  And once you've been dropped by any insruance company you become labled a high risk, and end up forking out 3 or 4 times what you should be for insurance.  My suggestion, stay where you are, or shop around but STAY AWAY from Geico!
A little bit off of the subject but here goes yes he is one in the same (i.e. Chevrolet Motor Div) also his brother Gaston raced at Indy and was the winner in 1920. I have also seen the name Arthur Chevrolet in the early teens (1911 and on) I assume he is related  Keith Nuetzman, nuet_ke@pts.mot.com Motorola Inc. Paging and Wireless Data Group Boynton Beach, Fl
In article <1993Apr6.195710.24227@cs.tulane.edu> finnegan@navo.navy.mil writes: >In article <1993Apr6.180456.17573@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes: >|> In article <1993Apr06.133319.7008@metrics.com> tomh@metrics.com (Tom Haapanen) writes: >|> >CHINTS@ISCS.NUS.SG writes: >|> >> Here are "another" ten reasons why we should all love CR >|> >> 10. Car salesmen love their new car buying service >|> >> 2. And later on buying a CR "idealized family sedan" >|> > >|> >And my number 1: >|> > >|> >1. The spectacle of the religious fervour of the CR "true believers". >|>  >|> Or the spectacle of "Macho Real Men" who would never bother to read the >|> magazine but are more than apt to criticize it. > >Hey, I'm a "Macho Real Man" and I DO read it.  So I can criticize >it all I want, especially since I pay for the publication. (They >accept no outside advertising, don't you know....) > >|> John Nielsen   MAGNUS Consultant            ______   ______   __  __	 >|> "To you Baldrick, the Renaissance was just /\  __ \ /\  ___\ /\ \/\ \ >|> something that happened to other people,   \ \ \/\ \\ \___  \\ \ \_\ \ >|> wasn't it?" - The Black Adder               \ \_____\\/\_____\\ \_____\ > >Relying on Consumer Reports to pick your automobiles is like >letting Field & Stream select your living room furniture. > >Kenneth >finnegan@navo.navy.mil  No one should EVER rely on just a magazine to determine what car they buy, I don't care what magazine. Btw, I subscribe to three other  auto rags, I just think CU is getting a bum rap by these macho men from hell who think real men should read . . . .  Statements like what you said above have no meaning. People keep on saying "CU is only good for dishwashing detergent" or as you said:"Relying on Consumer Reports . . . . is like. . ."  and that is all they say.   If there were as critical of themsevles as they are of CU maybe there would be some real content.  john
vlasis@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (vlasis theodore) writes:  >Have you Detroit beings compared the ultra-long-throw stick shifts of >the 5.0 with the 93 MR2 turbo or 93 RX7 (I ll buy it in 6 mos) ?  >Or the Torsen differential of the RX7 compared to the Differential of  >the 5.0 that sounds in every hairpin turn ?  Or the price tag of the RX7 vs. a Mustang? Part of the definition of a Mustang is that it should be affordable by the masses. Of course Ford knows youre argument, THEY OWN A BIG PIECE OF MAZDA! Take a good look at a Mach III, now an RX7, hhhmmmmm...  >And bythe way 5.0 and Camaro both have drums on the rear breaks ... >Hello , this is the 90 's ?  That is a tragedy, but I don't think new Camaros or the new Mustangs will.  -Steve
In article <1993Apr14.130427.21349@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dje@bmw535.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Don Eilenberger) writes: > >In article <1qgi8eINNhs5@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>, yiklam@unixg.ubc.ca (Yik Chong Lam) writes: >|> Hello, >|>  >|> 	Does anyone know how to take out the bolt under the engine >|> compartment?  Should I turn clockwise or counter?  I tried any kind >|> of lubricants, WD-40,etc, but I still failed! >|> 	Do you think I can use a electric drill( change to a suitable >|> bit ) to turn it out?  If I can succeed, can I re-tighten it not too >|> tight, is it safe without oil leak? >|> Thank you very much in advance------  Winson    I would suggest you take the car to the nearest Chevron dealer, with your own oil and filter.  Ask for an oil change.  It will cost less than $10.  Watch him/her do it.  Just from watching someone do a job, you will be able to learn and remember the sequence, and do it right when you do it yourself the next time.  Besides, when he/she loosens the drain nut, the next time around it will be easier for you.    If it is stuck, use an impact wrench.  Not too much force though. Use a new washer each time you put the nut back.....
I heard the diesels are considered cleaner-burning than gas engines because the emit less of: Carbon Monoxide, Hydrocarbons, and Oxides of Nitrogen.  (CO, HC, NOX).  But they can put out a lot of particulate matter.  I heard something about legislation being discussed to "clean up diesel emissions".  Is there anything in the works to install "scrubbers" for diesels?  How about the feasibility of installing them on trucks and cars?  Would it be any different than a catylitic converter?  I'd assume easier, since we're removing particulate matter instead of converting gasses.  Let's hear people's opinions...  --  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Vel Natarajan  nataraja@rtsg.mot.com  Motorola Cellular, Arlington Hts IL  --
tobias@convex.com (Allen Tobias) writes:  >Better still, years ago they demonstrated a cold air system which only used >"air". It was called a Rovax. The unit worked very well, the short coming >was the seal technology. Where is it today?  As I recall from reading posts here a while back, Rovax (Rovacs?) died because it was larger and noisier than the competing cheap R12 systems of it day.  Probably a case of bad timing.  I think the system would have a better chance today now that R12 systems are on death row, but investors may be hard to come by a second time.
I just read articals on this in Road and Track and Car and Driver 	(Is that one mag or two? =B^), and I was wondering if people out 	there have any opinions that differed from what these mags have to 	say...   	I'm looking at the following three SUV's; anyone who's driven all 	three have any strong opinions?   	Ford Explorer 	Toyota 4Runner 	Nissan Pathfinder   	Currently I'm leaning toward the Toyota, 'cause I've had big success 	with Toyota trucks in the past, and 'cause I think it's the best 	looking of the three. But I thought I'd see if anyone has any strong  	opinions....    			Thanks!   	-Karl
Does anyone know of a dead first generation MR2? I need body parts, steering rack, and a few minor pieces. I was about to buy a parts car, but the owner  backed out after 3 month of pulling my leg. ARRRRgh. Mike.S
In article <1r93m7INNnb3@shelley.u.washington.edu>   monet@carson.u.washington.edu (Diana Smith) writes: >  > My ex-husband & I used to own Borgwards.  > ... > even tho' they were > ugly - they had names - one was Humphrey Borgward.  That's pretty good.  A friend had an Audi that he named Murphy.
I saw an interesting product in NY Auto Show, and would like to  hear your comments.  MILITECH(tm) is yet another oil additive. But the demonstration of this product really impressive, if it didn't cheat.  The setup of the demo is fairly simple. A cone shaped rotor is half submerged in a small oil sink, filled with motor oil. The rotor is powered by an electronic motor. A metal pad is pressed against the rotor using the torque wrench until the rotor stopped by friction.  The torque that is needed to stop rotor is read from the torque wrench.  Before MILITECH was added, the rotor was stopped with about 60 lb-ft of torque (You pick the brand of oil, no difference). Once MILITECH was  added to the oil, the rotor could not be stopped even with 120+ lb-ft of torque.   Here is the good part: even after the salesman emptied the oil sink,  you still could not stopped the rotor with the thin film remained  on it.  They say you need only add 2oz per quart of oil every 15k miles. A 16 oz bottle is $25.  I still have my doubts. If this product is really so great, why it was so little known? The salesman said it is widely used in military. I didn't believe it.  The demo was so impressive, that I bought a bottle against my common sense.  Has anyone heard of or actually used this product? Is it real? If you are going to the auto show, please visit this stand on the  second floor. See if can find out if the demo is a hoax or not.