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In article <1993Apr23.091337@staff.dccs.upenn.edu> filinuk@staff.dccs.upenn.edu (Geoff Filinuk) writes: >	GET OFF ESPN'S BACK AND STOP POSTING ARTICLES ON THIS SUBJECT!!! >There have been to many f****n complainers about this game that it's making me >sick.  Generally I agree with you. However, (1) last night ESPN cut away to Baseball Tonite, which looks like SportsCenter tailored to baseball, and they cut away at 7:40 pacific. That's quite a contract they have there. (2) if ESPN couldn't deliver, they should have had a transistion plan to let SportsChannel pick up the slack.  Nonetheless, it is ultimately the fault of the US-American public that regular season baseball has precedence over playoff hockey in the U.S. Support your team; support your game.  Somebody in r.s.h. had an excellent idea that we should write Chrysler to thank them for supporting hockey with their ads and that we would consider their products. Here's an equally excellent idea, watch baseball for 10 minutes (I know I'm asking a lot, but that's what spew bags are for), write down who is advertising, and write them letters complaining that they are supporting baseball to your displeasure and that you won't consider buying their products because of it.
I agree! Rob Shick sucks big time.  He did the same thing last night's game  between Boston & Buffalo.
In article <C4zHJ1.7xB@idacom.hp.com> andrew@idacom.hp.com (Andrew Scott) writes: >In article <1993Apr2.175946.7727@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> nixdorf@etre (Eric Nixdorf) writes: >> >>     Looking at the way the divisions were re-aligned, there are six teams each >>in the Central (Norris) and Pacific (Smyth) divisions, while there are seven >>teams each in the Northeast (Adams) and Atlantic (Patrick) divisions.  The >>thought occurs to me that inherent in the realignment is expansion of one team >>in the Central division and one team in the Pacific division, although I've >>seen nothing published that indicates that. > >Actually, when the NHL expansion committee was formed a couple of years back >(before the Ottawa and Tampa Bay expansion), John Zeigler stated at the time >that it was the NHL's expansion plan to grow to 28 teams (7 per division) by >the turn of the century. > >--  >Andrew Scott                    | andrew@idacom.hp.com >HP IDACOM Telecom Division      | (403) 462-0666 ext. 253 > >During the Roman Era, 28 was considered old...  Last night during a Sharks' broadcast, Commissioner Bettman was interviewed during the first intermission.  He made no bones about it, the expansion to 28 is on permanent hold until he is satisfied that the current allotment of 26 are fully stable.  This means that cities looking for a club in the foreseeable future will have to wait until one team in some location fails or looks to relocate.  This is good, IMO.  There's no sense in expanding if it only means more failing franchises are in the mold.
In article <1993Apr2.202146.22837@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> phoenix@startide.ctr.columbia.edu (Ali Lemer) writes: > >Of course we need new position names for those unable to remember the  >very complicated hockey terminology: > >Old Name	New Name >--------	--------	 > >Centre		The Guy in the Middle >Left Wing	The Guy on the Left >Right Wing	The Guy on the Right >Defenceman	The Guy Back There >Goaltender	The Guy in the Net (or "cage", as my mother calls it) >Referee		The Guy with the Whistle >Linesman	The Guy with the Arms >Coach		The Guy in the Suit >GM		The Head Guy >Puck		The Black Thing >Red Line	The Line in the Middle >Blue Line	The Line on the Side >Crease		The Place in front of the Guy in the Net >Faceoff Circle	The Round Thing Where They Stand >Slot or Point	Over There (must point to accompany term) >Bench		The Place Where They Sit >Penalty Box	The Place Where They Sit When They're Bad  Mr. Bettman	The Guy in the Wrong Sport Mr. Stein	The Guy Who Should Be In Charge But Isn't  Of course, we also need new names for the individual awards, and other stuff like the President's Cup.  President's Cup		The Trophy Given To the Best Regular-Season Team Hart winner		The Most Valuable Player, chosen from the 				Guys in the Middle, the Guys on the 				Right, the Guys on the Left, the Guys 				Back There, and the Guy in the Net, 				though typically given only to the 				Guys in the Middle and the Guys on  				the Left and on the Right Norris winner		The Best Guy in the back; or, the Guy who was 				awarded for something even though he 				is not one of the Guys in the Middle 				or on the Left or the Right  ...ad nauseum.  :-)  --     Keith Keller				LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!! 						LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!! 	kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu		IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!
In article <mcm12B2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> mbevan@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Mark Bevan) writes: > >He was already offered $65 million for them from Northlands Coliseum >but refused the offer.... I don't think he is going to sale. I think he >may decide to move the team to the States though where he can draw >more revenue from the team. >  Pocklington just wanted to wake up the powers that be holding political office, in Northlands, and in the business community that the Oilers with their current lease arrangement are in a state where on a yearly basis they will likely have an operating loss based on "normal" hockey revenues and expenses.  That he did this was a good thing...it is better he complain early, and make the city aware of a potential looming crisis before he begins to lose millions and millions of dollars...which would truly jeopardize the franchise.  Pocklington's first option is not to sell or to move, but to sell a minority share of the team (to realize some of the appreciated value of the team) and to get a better arena deal, either in Northlands, or via a new building.  Pocklington probably isn't going to get exactly what he wants...but ultimately he will probably get enough, or will sell to someone who will probably get enough.  There are a lot of risks in moving a team also...  ...one has to remember "Peter Puck's principle"...it is better to spend other people's money than one's own if at all possible.
Not to mention, Mr. Francis is an incredibly nice person.  Over Christmas break, a friend of mine had a little Xmas gathering.  The two of us drove to Ron's house.  While I stayed in the car out of shyness, my friend went to the door and rang the bell.  Ron answered and my friend introduced himself.  He then proceeded to invite Francis to the party.  Ron declined because he "had to watch his daughter."  He then reached out and shook my friend's hand!  I know this isn't r.s.b., but I don't think Barry Bonds would be this polite in this situation.
In article K00WBM850Z5v@andrew.cmu.edu, am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas) writes: > >Michael Collingridge writes: > >>And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded,  >>resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other  >>team captain trivia would be appreciated. > >Wasn't Ron Francis captain of the Whalers when he was traded to >Pittsburgh? > >Mom.  Chris Chelios was Montreal's co-captain with Guy Carbonneau when he was traded to Chicago for Denis Savard, and Peter Stastny was captain of the Quebec Nordiques when he was traded to New-Jersey. Also Mark Messier was captain of the Edmonton Oilers when he was traded to New-York. How about Dale Hawerchuk with Winnipeg when he was traded to Buffalo, was he captain too ? I think so. I should not forget Wayne (you know who) when he was traded to L.A. he was captain. Didn't they strip Wendel Clark of his capta    incy in Toronto ?  Just some updates and thoughts.  Cheer...  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Piche (LMC/U/DET - Design) Ericsson Communications Inc. 8400 Decarie Blvd, 1rd floor Town of Mont Royal, Quebec. H4P 2N2 (514)-738-8300 ext. 2178.  E-mail: LMCDAPI@LMC.ERICSSON.SE MEMOid: LMC.LMCDAPI  CHEERS.....
When I left, it was 4-3, Blues with 2:00 to go!  As I predicted in "@#$%! I was right in the first place!!!"  Blues in 6!  YES!!!  Of course it's only one game -- that could be the 'Hawks stab in the face to wake them up -- that's what playoffs are about, on any given day... :-)
ktgeiss@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes: > Lake State/Maine in finals...WHO WON?   Please post.
In article 1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi, hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi () writes: >In article <1993Apr14.174139.6604@sol.UVic.CA>, gballent@vancouver.UVic.CA (Greg  Ballentine) writes: >>  >>  >> +/- is a good stat because it is the only stat that I am aware of that >> takes into account defensive play.  It isn't a measure of defensive >> play- it takes into account offense and defence- all aspects of play. >                                                    >  If we are interested of real all-round players, the power play stats >  should be considered, too. Because the power play is also one aspect  >  of play! There is still something to be done with these player evaluation >  tools!!  IMO any good player should score on power plays because of the man advantage.  Very good power play scorers tend to become overrated because their point totals are inflated by power play points. +/- tends to expose these overrated players such as Brett Hull, John Cullen and Dave Andreychuck.  Given the opportunity to play power play consistently, any player can inflate his totals.
In article <93105.052120RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes: >In article <1993Apr14.015415.10176@mprgate.mpr.ca>, tasallot@galaxy.mpr.ca >(Mathew Tasalloti) says: >>chances this year), but it seems to me like Washington is the ONLY >>team that can stop the Penguins from winning their next Stanley Cup. > >  Really? I think both the Islanders and Devils would have a better chance >at the Penguins than the Capitals, IMO. >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** Robbie Po **          PGH PENGUINS!!!    "It won't be easy, but it >Contact for the '93-'94  '91 STANLEY CUP    will have greater rewards. >Penn State Lady Lions    '92 CHAMPIONS      Mountains and Valleys are >rap115@psuvm.psu.edu     11 STRAIGHT WINS!  better than nothing at all!"  Really?  What makes you think the Islanders have a better shot?  They couldn't even beat the Whalers in two games!  (Well, since you're a Pens fans the whole question is moot.  I think the teams most likely to beat the Pens are the Bruins, Nordiques, and Blackhawks but I don't think they can really do it.  :-))
smale@healthy.uwaterloo.ca (Bryan Smale) writes:  >                        Team           Biggest       Biggest >Team:                   MVP:          Surprise:    Disappointment: >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Washington Capitals     Hatcher        Bondra/Cote   Elynuik >Winnipeg Jets           Selanne        Selanne       Druce
In article <1993Apr23.094308.6503@walter.cray.com> huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) writes: >I hadn't heard about this new ESPN2. When is this new network >supposed to start? Sounds great to me! (as long as my cable co. 					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >offers it) ^^^^^^^^^^^  Hopefully EPSN will use the lesson given by the master: Ted Turner. The season Ted introduced TNT, many cable co.'s refused to put it on, saying that, gee we get enough old movies, miniseries, etc. on TBS, USA, AMC, WGN, WOR, why do we need another one? This was in the fall. Come spring, Ted fixed their little red wagons good. The previous spring, NBA playoffs wore on TBS, now they were on TNT (and still are). And everyone gets TNT now.  So, ESPN should put NFL football and baseball on ESPN2, and leave hockey on ESPN. And if cable co.'s play games and drop ESPN in favor of ESPN2, ESPN should alternate baseball and football between channels every week.  But, do the ESPN guys collectively have the gonads of the Turner guy?
UPI Clarinet has just relayed a "scoop" from the Toronto Sun (or was that Star?  I like the Star myself ...) that Iron Mike Keenan has come to an agreement with the New York Rangers for next season.  Interestingly, this comes the day after the Times Sports had an editorial about how the Rangers need their own Pat Riley ... who cares about what happens after next season?  gld
Derian Hatcher's game-misconduct penalty was rescinded by the NHL,  allowing the Minnesota defenseman to play in the North Stars' last two  regular-season games.  Hatcher was given the penalty during a fight at  the end of a loss at St. Louis on Sunday, April 11.  But the league  didn't rescind the game-misconduct penalty Shane Churla received.  The  Stars recalled center Cal McGowan from their top minor league club in  Kalamazoo, Mich., to replace Churla.  The above is courtesy of The Washington Times on-line service.  Now, here's where I need help.  If anyone out there has a tape of Tuesday's Chicago-Minnesota game, please contact me.  Terms will be favorable.  Also, if anyone can tape tonight's Minnesota-Detroit game, please contact me.  This could be quite important.  Once again, I will make it worth your trouble.  Thanks to all.
In article <1993Apr20.032017.5783@wuecl.wustl.edu>, jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) writes: >  >  It was nice to see ESPN show game 1 between the Wings and Leafs since > the Cubs and Astros got rained out. Instead of showing another baseball > game, they decided on the Stanley Cup Playoffs. A classy move by ESPN.  What, did you leave the room each of the 100 or so times they said that there WERE NO OTHER NIGHT BASEBALL GAMES? Every break they took back at the studio mentioned it, followed by 'so...we're gonna show you hockey instead.' My wife and I are hoping for rain at every baseball game they have a feed for tommorrow night...  Point is, be glad they showed hockey, but if baseball was available anywhere else you can bet you would've watched baseball last night.
drozinst@db.erau.edu (Drozinski Tim) writes:  >As if an aluminum stick being taken to Ulf's head is gonna solve the problem >with violence in the sport of hockey.  How the hell can you say the guy is >a goon and justify it, with your back-assward mentality?  Saying that hurting >a player will solve anyone's problems is asinine.  New rules and a new  >referee system need to be instituted.  Right now, too many of the real goons >get away with too much, because the ref is watching the play (or supposed to be:I've seen Koharski and Van Hellemond, to name a few, with their heads up their  asses on a few calls) rather than keeping an eye on the goofballs behind the  >play.  Even if the linesmen were able to call all penalties, it would be an >improvement.  Unfortunately, that is the way the league is heading... You can't fight, so the only way to retaliate against someone is with a cheap shot when the ref isn't looking. Ulf has brought this to a high level... Players stuck in the past (like Neely) who prefer fights to cheap shots are at a disadvantage in the new system.  Lets face it, A cheap shot (like high sticking) is a very effective method... It is easier to hide from the refs, has a better chance of causing injury, and you can draw people into fights that way. I don't like it, but that's the way the league is going.
In article <121411@netnews.upenn.edu> kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller) writes: >In article <1qup1lINNotb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> swartzjh@RoseVC.Rose-Hulman.Edu writes: >F**king *NO* hockey games televised nationally tonight!  What the hell is >this???  Why the hell is ESPN showing some stupid baseball game, when >baseball is not even three weeks into the season and hockey is in the >playoffs???  No, wait, I know the answer: $$$$$$  But still!  It really . . .  ESPN had the Houston Astros @ Chicago Cubs game scheduled for last night on the west coast.   Since the game was rained out, they showed the Toronto Maple Leafs at the Detroit Red Wings game instead.
I hear Daigle will eb the first pick next year. What is the word on Kariya??? Anybody ever seen him play on TV???? Is he also entering the draft???
In article <randolin.3.735424986@polisci.umn.edu>, randolin@polisci.umn.edu (Robert Andolina) writes: |> The thing that confuses me most about ESPN is that they decided to show the  |> Penguins and Devils again on Thursday night.  Being that both of the first  |> two games were dominated by Pitt., you would think that they would show a  |> different game.  This is in addition to the fact that they should show other  |> games just for the sake of fair exposure.  ESPN must have some very poor marketing people.  They are only concerned with featuring players (i.e. Mario) than featuring good competitive hockey.  |> Also, some of you should know that (as far as I can tell) ESPN is not going  |> to show Campbell conference games regularly in the first two rounds.  I  |> believe that they are only going to show Campbell games in the first two  |> rounds as those series wear on (games 6 & 7, or perhaps games 5, 6, 7).   I've heard that this is because most of their market is East Coast and hence would prefer the Wales stuff.  Also, don't expect Canadian teams on ESPN.
In article <1r23on$4p6@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ching@bigwpi.WPI.EDU ("The Logistician") writes: >I am in need of all of the players wearing #77 in the NHL.  I know now only >of one, Ray Borque for the Bruins.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I believe that Phil Esposito was the first to wear #77 when he played with the Rangers in the '70s.  This was the season that they put the Rangers crest and "modern-style" numbers on the jerseys instead of the "NEW YORK" or "RANGERS" block letters and two-colour numbers.  He took #77 because the Rangers already had a #7.  (Hockey Night in Canada made a big thing out of it, saying it was the biggest uniform style change in a long time.  This was before Pittsburgh and Vancouver changed their colours.)       dwarf
In article <1993Apr20.214505.6925@wkuvx1.bitnet> kozloce@wkuvx1.bitnet writes: >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! > >(Oh guess what the score is now 7-0 penguins! Switch games you $%&*#@!!!) > [...]  and guess which game ESPN is showing in my area on Thursday - yep, Pens-Devils.  There are so many other interesting series, who cares about Mario???
In <1993Apr26.143902.24502@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:  >So what's stopping Pocklington from going to a bank and borrowing $41 >million dollars to pay off his Treasury Branch loans...I was reading  According to the recent TSN report Peter Puck is not paying any interest on the Treasury Branch loans.  That's a lot of green.  >somewhere than Pocklington business have gross revenues of about >$500 million per year...I don't think he would have much problem >"borrowing from his VISA to pay off his Mastercard" if he wanted to.  Again, according to TSN, virtually everything that Peter Puck has already  has liens against it.  Of course we can't really be sure of this.   >Pocklington is at the point of maximum advantage right now...and >he is basically right in that Northlands (which is a creature of the >City of Edmonton) must give him a better deal in the era of escalating >salaries.  Northlands and the city benefitted as much as he did during >the eighties from the Oilers...and wealth generated by the Oilers >success was shared...but the finanical viability of small market teams >has radically changed in the space of a couple of years, and for >the Oilers to remain viable and competitive, they need much more of >the revenue stream from concessions, parking, and building advertising >as most every other professional sports franchise in North America >has.  What was once a fair agreement that shared the wealth is now >Northlands sucking the blood out of the Oilers franchise.  The Oiler rationale regarding the renegotiation of player contracts is that a deal is a deal.  Sather has spouted this repeatedly.  Pocklinton has a contract with Northlands until 1999.  A deal is a deal.  Perhaps if he included the income he has received from his sale of assets (players such as Gretzky) and the income he has received in expansion fees with his revenues he wouldn't be losing money.  He has admitted pulling this money out of the Oiler franchise to put into his other businesses.   >The Oilers have paid several times over what the Coliseum cost to >build, and bring Edmonton prestige and recognition throughout the >world that is essentially priceless...to nickel-and-dime the Oilers >just so Northlands can use revenue sucked out of the Oilers to  >subsidize their horse-racing operations is insanity.  I think that Pocklington has received ample provincial subsidization.   I can't really blame him for going after municipal subsidization but  he is certainly not entitled to it.  Pocklington has "sucked" revenue out of the Oilers in order to prop up his failing business interests. Pocklington is not to be trusted.  I doubt very much that any Oiler team will ever again make the playoffs under Pocklington's stewardship. As soon as a player shows himself to be a competent NHL'er and expects to be paid accordingly he is shipped off for younger players and or draft picks.   --
This comes indirectly from Al Morgani who works in the studio for ESPN hockey.  	The management of ESPN was reluctant to leave the Pitt-NJ game  (even though the outcome was certain) because of fear of the Wash-Ny game  going to overtime.  When the Caps scored with :02 left to tie the game, Al said he heard many people say f**K .!#$%.   	ESPN is under contractual obligation to show baseball and COULD NOT broadcast the OT of the hockey game.  Next year, ESPN2 will be introduced so  baseball fans can watch baseball and hockey fans can watch hockey.  	GET OFF ESPN'S BACK AND STOP POSTING ARTICLES ON THIS SUBJECT!!! There have been to many f****n complainers about this game that it's making me sick.
AHL PLAYOFF SCORES-- FIRST ROUND	(home team in CAPS) ================================  GAMES PLAYED ON THURS, 4/22 ------------------------- Rochester 4	UTICA 3		(OT) 		 GAMES PLAYED ON FRI, 4/23 -------------------------- Binghamton 8	BALTIMORE 3 MONCTON 5	St John's 4	(OT) Springfield 4	PROVIDENCE 2  =================================================================== SERIES STATI (plural of status? :) ---------------------------------- Adirondack defeated CDI, 4-0 Springfield leads Providence, 3-2 Binghamton leads Baltimore, 2-1 Rochester leads Utica, 3-1 St John's leads Moncton, 3-1 Cape Breton leads Fredericton, 3-1