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maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:  >In <1qvag7INNsvo@lynx.unm.edu> kbos@carina.unm.edu (K. Mitchell Bose) writes:  >>In article <1993Apr19.214008.8199@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes: >>> >>>Again, if you had Lee on your team last year you would be wearing a ring >>>this year. >>> >>Er..no.  >Er..yes.  If Manny Lee was on your team last year, your team would have been >the Toronto Blue Jays.  >>_My_ team is the Albuquerque Leftturns.  If Manny Lee were on my team, I would >>not be wearing a ring.  Nor would he.  If, however, I were on Manny Lee's team,  >Again.  If Manny Lee was on your team last year your team would not have been >the Albuquerque Leftturns.  It would have been the Toronto Blue Jays.  How is that possible?  He was on the Albuquerque Leftturns last year. How could you possibly know what team he would be on if Manny Lee was on his team last year.  After all, Manny Lee wasn't on his team last year, so it's complete, unfounded speculation to state that if he was on the same team as Manny Lee last year, it would have been the team of the Toronto Blue Jays.  Since he and Lee weren't on the same team, you cannot possibly objectively state what team they would have been on if they had both been on the same team.
Dateline Tue, 20/Apr93 03:38. In , Antonio Pera of icop@csa.bu.edu  wrote to All at 1:133/411,   AP>         Recently, I heard the Red Sox on WROL a   AP> Spanish-speaking radio station. I thought it was so   AP> unreal. The Red Sox in Spanish? Anyway, I want to find  AP> out how widespread this is? Being a NY native, I know   AP> the scMets are on in Spanish but not the Yankmes. I   AP> wuold think that LA,SD,Texas and Fla are on in Spanish.   AP> Are there any Spanish-speaking networks or is this a   AP> local      For the last couple of years, the Braves have been fostering a program to reach to the Latin American audience.  This has included licensing Spanish fan magazines, encouraging Spanish co-broadcasts, and marketing programs directed at the Latin American community.  One of the biggest heros to the Latin American audience has been Francisco Cabrerra (a fact of which he was slightly embarrassed!).    One funny story is that during Spring Training, the Braves played a game in Mexico.  This game was broadcast back to Atlanta in Spanish.  It took the broadcasters a few innings to get a rythm going because they had to keep changing their location.  Seems it took a while to find a place where they could get a clear signal on their cellular phones through which they were calling the game!          David Deitch, (GIS) Atlanta
behrens@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eric Behrens) writes:   >The Babe and The Pride of the Yankees offer very different renditions of >the sotry about Ruth and Gherig hitting home runs for the boy in the >hospital.  Can some historian out there explain "history's" version of the >story.    >I wouldn't put is past either (or both) of the movies to season the truth >with a little extra spice.  >Any other comments as to inaccuracies in these two movies?       Good question!  I kind of wondered about this myself.  Just one thought I had on it  -  the Babe himself was IN "Pride of the Yankees", which made me think  a) that version may be closer to the truth, and  b) the Babe must have been a pretty good gut to be in the movie even though some of the scenes didn't make him look completely flattering.
Your list of Jewish ballplayers includes Levi Samuel Meyerle (son of Jacob and Margaret Meyerle). Although that sounds like a Jewish name, Meyerle's "surviving relatives" say he wasn't Jewish, according to "Nineteenth Century Stars," published by SABR in 1989. Incidentally, "Long Levi" (he was 6-foot-1) batted .492 in the first season of the National Association, the first pro league. Needless to say, he hasn't been topped yet. (Of course, the NA is not considered a "major" league by officialdom.) Over five seasons, Meyerle hit .368 in the NA. He also played for the first three seasons of the NL, hitting .329.   -- -------------------------- Phil Brown                | aka pb6755@csc.albany.edu |
In article <1993Apr20.202808.11395@alleg.edu>   luriem@alleg.edu(Michael Lurie) The Liberalizer writes: >  > Very interesting, Gehrig below bonds and schmidt. RICKY HENDERSON?   He   > could steal bases, but his hitting stats are not even close to   dimmagio's. > uhhhh. Where is Winfield?  Henderson's stat's are probably closer to DiMaggio's than you think.
>In article <15APR93.14691229.0062@lafibm.lafayette.edu> VB30@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes:   > >It's Stankiewicz, not Stankowitz, and he's not Jewish - he's Polish >(by the way, the correct pronunciation - according to Stanky himself, >is "ston-KEV-itch". all the sportscasters get it wrong) >   Polish and Jewish are *not* mutually exclusive.
In article <1r22coINNhg1@gap.caltech.edu> jeff@smoggy.gg.caltech.edu (Jeff Goldsmith) writes: >In <mssC5qH3y.L1p@netcom.com> mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) writes: > >>>if this is true (note that i don't think it is), lasorda should be >>>fired for at least two reasons: >>> >>>         1) publicly humiliating his players; >>>         2) knuckling under to his players wishes.  I DID NOT WRITE THAT!  In fact, those statements were a rebuttal to an earlier posting that I made, and this was culled from my *strong* rebuttal to those statements.  PLEASE!  Slander.  Shame.   >There is a fine line between "getting players' input" and "knuckling >under to players' demands."  A manager, much like a military officer, >needs to have his (her) players' complete obedience and respect during >a game.  After the game, it's no big deal, but when there is no time  >to do more than react, players must trust the manager or the team often >falls apart (see: Boston Red Sox, ff. :) )     "after the game, it's no big deal" ????   After the employees leave the workplace, it doesn't matter what they say about the boss or the company?  Puhlease.   >Strawberry's demeanor as represented by the media, often sounds like >demands.  I suspect that a comment like "I enjoy hitting fourth; I'm >used to it" would get pretty brutally misinterpreted by the media if >it came from Strawberry.  Russ Porter quoted Strawberry as saying, >"I feel more comfortable hitting cleanup and I think I perform best >in that role."  (Paraphrased by my memory and bias.)  That seems like >a fairly non-petulant answer to what was almost certainly a question  >like, "How do you feel about being moved to the third spot in the order?"   First, it's Ross Porter.  Second, I am really tired of seeing the kind of response that indicates that all I do is parrot what some media person says or writes.  I have a brain.  If I choose to characterize something in a certain fashion, it's because that is what I believe to be accurate.  It is not just because some unnamed "mediot" made the characterization.    >A more media-sensitive player might answer "The manager knows what he is >doing.  If he thinks that batting me third will help the team, then I >am all for it."  We'd ignore that answer as brown stuff, so it seems a >little bit of an overreaction to brand Darryl's response as petulant.  I did *not* brand Darryl's response as petulant, because I never heard any response from Darryl.  I did call him a name.  I referred to him  as a primadonna.  Someone else concluded that I did that because I "hate" him.  I don't hate him.  I think he's a primadonna.  If you disagree, fine.  But stop putting words in my mouth.    --	The Beastmaster > >
In article <C5109u.7C0@ucdavis.edu> itlm013@dale.ucdavis.edu (Donnie Trump) writes: >I was watching Peter Gammons on ESPN last night, and he's got me a little >confused. > >While talking about expansion, he started mentioning people who might benefit >from the fringe players they'll be facing: McGriff hitting 50 home runs, >Sheffield getting 150 rbi's, and Glavine winning 25 games.  This was, >of course, all in reference to what happened the *other* times that baseball >has expanded (early 60's, late 60's, late 70's). > >What really confused me, though, was the mention of *AL* players who would >do well next year.  Specifically, Roger Clemens winning 25 games, and the >likes of McGwire and Gonzalez hitting 50 home runs. > >My question is:  How in the hell will the Rockies/Marlins help the AL?  The >last time I looked, there wasn't a lot of talent jumping leagues.  Did I >miss something? > Only if you persist in believing that Peter Gammons is more knowledgable about baseball than the average mailbox.  Okay, I'm overstating.  Still, the man  actually had the gall to say that one out of every six pitchers in the NL this year did not pitch in the majors last year.  Huh?  IMO, this expansion will not see the explosive jump in offense that the  other expansion drafts had, since the talent was diluted over both leagues. In Gammons' defense, because the talent drain came from the AL as well, some increase will be seen.  He also gets credit for mentioning that the 1969 jump in offense was due also to the rules changes after the 1968 season.  He's still full of it...
paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:  >In article <1993Apr23.151050.8995@sctc.com> macomber@sctc.com (Chuck Macomber) writes:   >> >>Wednesday's game marked the first opposing left-handed starting pitcher for the >>Twins this year (Rickey Bones).    >   Nice post Chuck, but you made just one mistake. Bones is a right-handed >   pitcher. However, Hrbek's grand slam came off Graehme Lloyd, a lefty.  >   --salty  My mistake.
I have noticed that this year has had a lot of high scoring games (at least the NL has).  I believe one reason are the expansion teams.  Any thoughts?
In article <C5p3yr.GH2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc) writes: > >	The defenition of the Underdog is a team that has no talent and comes >out of nowhere to contend.  The '69 Mets and '89 Orioles are prime examples,  Uh, I don't think you can call a team with Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, and Nolan Ryan on the pitching staff a team that has "no talent." They did come out of nowhere, but some of the improvement was forseeable.
In article <1993Apr20.160532.20860@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes: > In <C5sFvE.Aq@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> drw3l@delmarva.evsc.Virginia.EDU (David Robert Walker) writes: >    Some comments deleted for bandwidth (God knows, we need it... :))  >  >>Baseball is a team game, but it is made of individual talents. It is >>absurd to judge the success or failure of an individual by the success >>or failure of his teammates, whom he did not choose (at least in most >>cases.) Morris won last year because he played on a team with Joe >>Carter, Robby Alomar, Tom Henke, Juan Guzman, John Olerud, et al. >>Clemens lost because he was surrounded by such lesser performers as >>Herm Winninham, Luis Rivera, and Jeff Reardon. To define the quality >>of the team as a sum of its components (as I do, albeit imperfectly) >>is a lesser error than defining the quality of an individual as the >>mean quality of the team (as my reading of your arguments suggests you >>do) >  > No, I am not trying to define the quality of an individual, at least not > for the purpose of ranking them.  Toronto won with Olerud.  They might > have won with Fielder.  They might not have won with Thomas.  Detroit > might have won with Thomas.  Chicago might have won with Fielder.  You > can't rank these individuals.  You can only look at who might contribute > more to the team effort, which is winning the WS.  Thomas could not > have contributed to that goal any more than Olerud so I cannot say that > Olerud is less of a player.  >        Ok, Roger, here's a question for you.  Say you are running an expansion team.  You don't HAVE a team at the moment, but the draft is coming up.  Who are you going to pick, guys who have won the most WS rings, or guys who  COULD contribute the most to your team.  Say the Reds were dumb enough to  not protect Larkin, and the Jays didn't protect Alfredo.  Who would you pick?      (I can't believe I'm getting involved in this... :)    John
Do you think Omar's grand slam is the result of his new fan club?  Last week  a banner appeared in the Kingdome:      	OLDER WOMEN FOR OMAR
I'd have to say the most impressive HRs I've ever see came from Dave Kingman and his infamous moon-raker drives...
In article <C4x9xA.9Ew@news.udel.edu>, philly@brahms.udel.edu (Robert C Hite) writes: > In article <4fjQpAu00WBLM1z50R@andrew.cmu.edu> Anuj Gupta <ag4i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >>Everytime I have written on the net about the possibility of a >>successfuls season by the Philadelphia Phillies, I have gotten ripped >>from everybody from Pittsburgh to Calcutta.  But if all the >>ignoramouses, care to look at this week's Baseball Weekly, they will see >>that I'm not the only one who considers then as division winners - the >>rest of the most respected baseball writers in the country do as well. >  > And these guys certainly know what they're talking about.  Every > bozo from Pittsburgh to Calcutta will just have to sit up and take > notice!  This Phils team in an offensive juggernaut which is going > to score a LOT of runs and put up a TON of hits on the scoreboard. > You people out there are going to be sick of seeing PHILLIES > scattered all over every offensive league leaders category in the > newspaper.  These guys hit .304 through Spring Training..well before > getting no hit yesterday.  But they had a plane to catch 45 minutes > after the game ended, so they're minds weren't in it.  Up to this point, I really thought this had been written by a  pro-SDCN, anti-mediot poster blessed with a certain talent for sarcasm and biting remarks.  Somebody like me, for instance. The lurid overstatements were obviously intended to humiliate the original poster.  > Now, on top of the great offense, they have a slightly above average > pitching staff which has a lot of youth and promise.  If the > pitchers do their part, and Mitch keeps blown saves to a minimum, > look for another pennant out in left field at the Vet... >  > Robert C. Hite >  > P.S. Michael Jack Schmidt for COMMISSIONER  But then the scales were lifted from my eyes.  Looks like Robert is really being serious.  Oh, well.  I compare the performance of the 1992 Phillies with the 1987 edition, which had outstanding run producers at every position except SS, yet finished at a frustrating sub-.500 level.  The 1987 folks didn't  ever amount to anything, and neither will the 1992 squad, IMHO.  Any other parallels with previous years' teams for this year's editions (in the style of 1993 Braves = 1971 Orioles)? --  Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin   "Interracial mixing encompasses a lot lot more f67709907@ccit.arizona.edu      than mingling between G7 races." -- robohen
In article <1993Apr15.175302.25180@sarah.albany.edu> js8484@albnyvms.bitnet writes: >In article <120399@netnews.upenn.edu>, sepinwal@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Alan Sepinwall) writes: >> >>	1)Spike Owen. Sure, he's hitting like crazy, but the guy *cannot* >>	  field to save his life! And they said he was brought in to >>	  provide defense? Velarde, Stankiewicz, and even Silvestri >>	  are better defensively than Owen. > >Remember - it's still early. Look for his offense to tail off, and >his defense to improve (hopefully). He has that rep because I heard >that either last year, or over the last 5 years, or something like >that - he has the third highest fielding percentage among major league >shortstops - behind C.R. and Tony (I'm not gonna help this sorry Mets >team at all) Fernandez. I do agree though that he has not looked all >that impressive in the field thus far.  Owen only has one error so far, I believe.  That seriously underrepresents the harm he has done in the field.  Owen will cleanly play any ball he reaches.  He will have a fine fielding percentage, like always.  The problem is that he doesn't reach anything that isn't hit straight at him!  This wouldn't be quite as obvious a problem if he were playing next to Kelly Gruber or Robin Ventura.  But the third baseman for the Yankees is Wade Boggs (who should have moved across the diamond *last* year)!  I've only seen one game, Abbott's first start, but there were three balls hit to the left side which would have been stopped by quality defensive players.  Instead they were charged as hits against Abbott.
I made a mistake on the posted article [been fighting food poisoning for last 24 hours...]  The second paragraph should state the following...  "Doctors cleared Sandberg to swing a padded bat at a ball on a tee and to catch a ball in his gloved hand."  Sorry for the error, didn't know it until after posting.
In article <1993Apr20.035607.26095@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>, cs902043@ariel.yorku.ca (SHAWN LUDDINGTON) writes: |> How about changing team names! |> Post your choices! |>   Minnesota Lumberjacks (thought of Bunyons - as in Paul, not sore feet or Babes 			as in Big Blue Ox) Seattle Rainiers (I think this was considered by the new ownership -- harkening                   back to AAA glory days -- and placating at least one local                   brewer :-)
In article <mzimmersC5sLLK.LD9@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes: >In article <20APR93.15151474@vax.clarku.edu> hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes: > >>nflynn@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes: > >>I agree with Nick.  What's the big deal about long games?  If you want >>to watch baseball, there's that much more baseball to watch.  And yes, >>baseball includes the space between plays as well as the plays themselves. > >First, a longer game in no way suggests "more baseball to watch," unless >you include watching the grass grow as baseball.  The lengthier games >are so because of batters stepping out of the box, pitchers taking >longer between pitches and excessive trips to the mound by managers >and pitching coaches. >  Until six or seven years ago I was an enthusiastic fan of NFL football. Last year I hardly watched a game.  What turned me off were the incessant interruptions to the continuity of the game.  A team scores. 2.5 minutes of commercials.  Kickoff.  1.5 minutes of commercials. Three downs and a punt.  2 minutes of commercials.  AAAAARRRRGH!  Earlier in this thread I commented on LaRussa and the A's, whom I believe institutionalize slow play.  I don't mind the cat-and-mouse game with Rickey on first;  in fact, I rather enjoy it.  Similarly I would enjoy the battle with Listach or Lofton or Polonia on first.  What I object to is when such games are played with Karkovice on first, or when the game is a blowout.  I don't mind when the pitcher steps off  the mound to gather his thoughts in a crucial situation, or when a hitter steps out of the box to regain his concentration.  What I object to is when hitters and pitchers take such breaks at every opportunity. When a game is exciting, these little delays serve as tension builders and for me enhance the value of the experience of the game.  When the delays happen with regularity, they become nuisances, just like the commercial breaks in football.    I understand the NFL imposed a number of rule changes to "speed up" the games, basically putting an onus on the officiating staff to move the markers and the ball to the spots faster.  That did not address the problem of the continuity of the game.  It may have appeased the sponsors and the networks, but I would be amazed if it did anything to enhance the experience of the fans.  Similary, while some 3-hour baseball games bore me to tears, those are the ones where there is no continuity and the players are taking exasperatingly long periods to get ready for each pitch.  I doubt if anyone watching the Braves-Giants game cared about Gant stepping out.  I doubt if anyone watching that game would have found that pause to be anything but an opportunity to have their complete attention claimed by the drama that was present.  I would be totally opposed to any effort that would eliminate that aspect of baseball.  On the other hand, I wish baseball had a commissioner that was powerful enough to sit down with Alderson/LaRussa/Duncan and explain that they are actually hurting the product of baseball by dragging their games  out the way that they do.  I sure wouldn't mind a little arm-twisting there.    --	The Beastmaster
In article <20APR93.15151474@vax.clarku.edu> hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes:  >I agree with Nick.  What's the big deal about long games?  If you want >to watch baseball, there's that much more baseball to watch.  And yes, >baseball includes the space between plays as well as the plays themselves.  I don't really mind the length of games either.  If they want to speed the games up in sensible ways, that's fine with me too.  However, what I object to is the assertion by baseball people (Whitey Herzog, Buck Rodgers are who I've heard say this) that games are too long because hitters are taking too many pitches, and that the strike zone needs to be expanded.
My schedule is flexible so any games are candidates AC>(though I'd prefer to see Texas.)    Hi Tony.I think that I might be able to help you out!The Rangers are    here in Toronto Thursday July 8th through Sunday July 11th and    tickets should not be hard to find if you order them far enough in    advance.Although I don't have a ticket broker's telephone number off    hand if you give me a couple of days I will be able to get a hold a=    of a couple.The Blue Jays ticket info # is (416)341-1111 or if you    want to order by credit card,call (416) 341-1234.If you let me    know,when you want the tickets I can save you a possible long    distance call.If all else fails I might be able to pull a few strings    and get you a pair.Let me know whats happening.  Drew Carley,Toronto Canada ---  þ DeLuxeý 1.25 #2177 þ Go away,or I shall taunt you a second time!
tmiller@cimmeria.gatech.edu (Thomas Miller) writes:  >  Does anyone else think that this weekend's four-game series was a >really strange one?  Yes. It was the strangest series I have ever watched. And the ending fit perfectly.
I'm sure all of you have heard of the extraordiary start by  rookie J.T. Snow of the California Angeles.  Other than the fact that his father was a star receiver with the L.A. Rams and is now a radio personality in Los Angeles and J.T. came from the Yankees organization I don't know much about J.T.  If anyone has info and background on  the young fenom....please post.  By the way, for those of you not following his exploits he has hit four home runs in three days.  Two last night.  He has also delivered the winning hit a couple of times for the Angeles in this young season.  Thanks...