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the 'Center for Policy Research' writes...   > FROM THE ISRAELI PRESS > >Hadashot, 14 March 1993: > >The Israeli Police Department announced on the evening of Friday, >March 12 that it is calling upon [Jewish] Israeli citizens with >gun permits to carry them at all times "so as to contribute to >their security and that of their surroundings".      Considering all the murders of innocent Israelis at the hands      of Arab death merchants, I see nothing wrong with the advice.  >Ha'aretz, 15 March 1993: > >Yehoshua Matza (Likud), Chair of the Knesset Interior Committee, >stated that he intends to demand that the police department make >it clear to the public that anyone who wounds or kills >[non-Jewish] terrorists will not be put on trial.      As usual, the bias of the 'Center for Policy Research' echoes     through this newsgroup.  Here we have an enraged Likudnik who     is venting his spleen, and you portray it as if this is going     to become policy.  You don't say what the response to Matza's     suggestion was.  Do do not mention whether he was refering to     terrorists caught in the act, which could be a clear cut case     of self-defence.  Would you care to elaborate on this, or was     this all you wanted to say on the matter.  Why don't you give     up this 'Center for Policy Research' crap, and just post your       biases without trying to legitimize them with a pompous name?  >Ha'aretz, 16 March1993: > >Today a private security firm and units from the IDF Southern >Command will begin installation of four magnetic gates in the Gaza >strip, as an additional stage in the upgrading of security >measures in the Strip. > >The gates will aid in the searching of [non-Jewish] Gaza residents >as they leave for work in Israel. They can be used to reveal the >presence of knives, axes, weapons and other sharp objects. > >In addition to the gates, which will be operated by a private >civilian company, large quantities of magnetic-card reading >devices are being brought to the inspection points, to facilitate >the reading of the magnetic cards these [non-Jewish] workers must >carry.      A laudable precaution.            Every single thing you post about Israel is posted to portray     Israel as negatively as you can.  Deliberate omissions are an     integral part of the shtick.  And it's not only the incidents     that you do not mention, but even the stories you do post are     fraught with omissions, which change the entire meaning.  The     absurdity of your respectable name cannot hide your bias.      In your effort to portray Israel in an unfavorable light, you      have accomplished nothing, except to prove that a respectable      sounding label like the Center for Policy Research is nothing      but a smoke screen for someone with a heavily biased attitude      against Israel and the need to vent it.
In article <C5JHJ4.F4J@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes: [stuff deleted] >>I am not saying that conflicts started with that. It is only >>not one side being the aggressive and the ither always suffering. >>It is sad that we (both) still are not trying to compromise. >>I remember the action of the Turkish government by removing the >>visa requirement for greeks to come to Turkey. I thought it >>was a positive attempt to make the relations better. > > I thought it was a smart move to receive more money from Greek tourists. > I bet that this week there should be about 200,000 tourists from Greece > in Turkey.  Each one will leave at least $1,000 so go and figure what this > means to your economy.  If you had kept the visa requirement, how many > Greeks would bother to visit Turkey?  Smart indeed.  If what you're saying is true, Greeks who visit are happy, the Turkish merchants are happy; who is harmed?  No one.  So not only was it a smart move, it was also a good move for it adds to the happiness of 200.000 Greeks per week and however many Turkish merchants they interact with. One simple move in the paperwork arena -> lotsa happy people of both  nationalities.  Just and observation.  cheers,  BM
In article <Apr16.182858.51611@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes: >In article <2BCE0918.6105@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes: >|> In article <Apr15.175334.72079@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes: > >[.....] > >|> Your view of this entire matter is far too serenely one-sided and >|> selectively naive. > >Oooh... now THAT hurts.  I will not suffer you through more naive >and one-sided views of mine.   Please skip my articles in the future >Oh Wise Tim, and have a good day. > >Basil
WASHINGTON (UPI) -- A senior State Department official on Tuesday ruled out any softening of U.S. attitudes toward Iraq but said relations with Iran's Islamic regime could improve substantially if that government disassociates itself from international terrorism. 	``Despite the name-calling and the harsh rhetoric from across the Gulf, despite all this, we do not take a position of permanent hostility towards the Islamic Republic of Iran,'' David Mack, deputy assistant secretary for Near Eastern Affairs, said. 	The primary U.S. objection is ``Iran's international behaviour'' which includes ``extending support of violence'' to disrupt the Arab Israeli peace process and its rapid build-up of dangerous weapons. 	Mack said ``Iran could contribute to regional stability and peace but first it is to end the behaviour which threatens this area.'' 	Mack spoke at the U.S.-GCC business conference aimed at promoting Gulf-American trade. He said the ``Middle East will be an item very high on the agenda of the U.S. administration.'' 	The importance of the Gulf is underlined by Secretary of State Warren Christoper's visit last year to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait before anywhere else in the world, Mack said. He added that the U.S. has no long-term plan to station troops in the Gulf. 	Mack also insisted that the Clinton administration will continue to pressure Iraq to ``comply with all the U.N. Security resolutions.'' 	``As long as Iraq is ruled by Saddam Hussein we do not expect compliance,'' Mack told delegates.
Is this group for real? I honestly can't believe that most of you expect you or your concerns to be taken remotely seriously if you behave this way in a forum for discussion. Doesn't it ever occur to those of you who write letters like the majority of those in this group that you're being mind-bogglingly hypocritical?
In article <30962@galaxy.ucr.edu> raffi@watnxt08.ucr.edu (Raffi R Kojian) writes:  >> during the period of 1914 to 1920, the Armenian Government  >> ordered, incited, assisted and participated in the genocide of 2.5 million  >> Muslim people because of race, religion and national origin? The x-Soviet   >MY GOSH!!! Sedar, WHAT ARMENIAN GOVERNMENT???  Armenia didn't even become    No wonder you clown are in such a mess. Let's take Sarkis Atamian's (an  Armenian Dashnak sociolog) book, "The Armenian Community", pages 97 and  105. Atamian quotes:   "... the immediate question concerned itself with the organization and  tactics of revolution. The liberation of Armenia, the immediate aim of  the Party, was to be attained by:        1. Oral and written propaganda.       2. Terrorism - both as punishment against the enemy and as a measure          of self defense.        3. The creation of an avant-garde of revolutionary groups to be          equipped and prepared for action when other nations were prepared          for a general uprising.       4. The organization of larger committees to be in constant contact with          each other and subject to a central body.       5. Organization of units of guerilla fighters."  Now, on page 105, Atamian's book quotes of Armenian constitution:   "... If the means was revolution, how was the revolution to be attained?  By:        1. Propaganda        2. Preparation of combat units and their indoctrination       3. Encouragement of the revolutionary morale of the people       4. The arming of the people       5. Organization of revolutionary committees       6. Espionage throughout the country and the exchange of information with          the official bodies and journals       7. Organization of financial zones for public collection        8. 'Fighting and using' the weapon of the terror on corrupt government          officers, spies, traitors, grafters, and all sorts of oppressors       9. Defense of the people against attacks from the brigandry      10. Building of roads for the transport of arms      11. Wrecking and looting of governmental institutions."  Many of the recent Armenian terrorist acts against the Turkish people  were committed by the brainwashed members of the "Tzeghagron", namely,  "race-worshipers" of the Dashnag Youth Organization. Ironically, again,  Tzeghagron was set up by an undisputed Armenian Nazi, Karekin Nejdeh, in 1941 (see Atamian, loc cit, page 389).  Serdar Argic
In article <1th4mg$53f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa824@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman) writes:  >    for Arab armies to attack Israel on Yom Kippur?  I suppose it >    is brave to slaughter athletes at the Olympics?  Or maybe you  Armenians have been doing just that for a long, long time.  Source: "Hagop Hagopian said to have been part of 1972 Terror Attack at Munich Olympic Games," The Armenian Reporter, February 7, 1985, p. 1.  "Le Matin, the influential Paris daily, based on unidentified sources, claimed last week that Hagop Hagopian, the founder and leader of one faction of the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA), was among the Arab terrorists who staged an attack on the living quarters of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympic Games...  Le Matin added that up to 1982, Hagopian operated out of Beirut, Lebanon, but escaped from the country when Israeli forces entered the city. It was about this time that a statement issued by ASALA claimed that Mr. Hagopian was dead of wounds suffered during a bombing by the Israeli Air Force, although it is generally believed that the mysterious leader is alive and well and presently is residing alternately in Damascus, Syria, and Athens, Greece. The paper also noted that the socialist government of Prime Minister Andreas Papandreou and his P.A.S.O.K. party accepted the Armenian underground leader with "open arms" and still providing him with assistance simply because of Greece's traditional enmity with Turkey.  Le Matin further adds that ASALA derives only a small portion of its expenditures from wealthy Armenians who support the cause, with the rest  coming either from other sources or from proceeds of an involvement in drug trafficking."  Serdar Argic
Well everybody,  After reading tons of notes by Serdar, I have come to the following conclusion.    Turkey is PERFECT, and no Turk has ever made a mistake.  He has proved to me at   least that the land occupied by Turkey today, was ALWAYS lived in peacefully by   Turks.  (Including Istanbul AKA Constantinople)  They treat their minorities   like gods and have only done good while all of their evil neighbors attacked   them.  Somehow, despite these evil neighbors capable of nothing but murder   their population has exploded to almost 60 million in Turkey alone. (Note,   Armenian worldwide population is approximately 7 million total)  I want to go   to this heaven on earth and meet the race that has made Serdar possible, that   has persevered, and has become a mecca for human rights lovers.  (Amnesty   International must have bad sources, Turkey would never torture its citizens,   treat minorities badly, or kidnap 7 foreign journalists last year alone, who   incidentally are still missing), what I am trying to say is I WANT TO BE A   TURK!!!!  Now back to reality.  I have once again been astounded by Serdars ability to   ignore all truth, all truly difficult questions, and go on to his encyclopedia   of quotes and sources that can be pasted into any note BY THE PAGE!  Anybody at   all who has believed ANYTHING he has said, please step forward.  Let him know   he hasn't been wasting his time, that SOMEBODY out there can be convinced by   the volume of e-mail you can produce, not the quality of the content. Well I am   off now.  I will go dream  some more about that perfect place, that nirvana,   that utopia, that xanadu, that TURKEY!
In article <1r64pb$nkk@genesis.MCS.COM>, Jack Schmidling (arf@genesis.MCS.COM) writes:  	That "Federal land" and tax money could have been 	used to commerate Americans or better yet, to house 	homeless Americans.   In article <C5wpAD.74K@specialix.com> jim@specialix.com (Jim Maurer) responds:  	Why don't you contribute to a group helping the 	homeless if you so concerned?   In article <1r7o4d$kjd@genesis.MCS.COM> Jack Schmidling (arf@genesis.MCS.COM) reveals the true depths of his cynicism:  	I do (did) contribute to the ARF mortgage fund but 	when interest rates plumetted, I just paid it off.  	The problem is, I couldn't convince Congress to move 	my home to a nicer location on Federal land.   In other words, Mr. Schmidling could care less for the plight of the homeless, but is not above using them to score points for his agenda.
In a previous article, jaa12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (John A Absood) says:  >It is never wise to confuse "freedom of speech" with "freedom" >of racism and violent deragatory." > >It is unfortunate that many fail to understand this crucial  >distinction.  I couldn't agree more.  Canada has an anti-hate law which exists to punish those who wilfully spread false propaganda (lies) for the purpose of  putting down another group.  This is actually the law that David Irving will hopefully be found guilty under due to his denial of the Holocaust. It's too bad that this useless "Centre for Policy Research" isn't in Canada. It'd set a nice precedent to how the law applies in Cyberspace.    Steve --
>   Q: How many occupying israeli soldiers (terrorists) does it >      take to kill a 5 year old native child? > >   A: Four > >   Two fasten his arms, one shoots in the face, >   and one writes up a false report. > >   -- >                     /       ..                          /  . >                   /_______/_/__________/_/_/      _<  /____/ >            /___ /       ..                     /____/ >  1. There is a similar idea here in ex-USSR about how many militioners it needs    to place a new electric lamp. The answer is nine: one stays on a table and    holds the lamp, four hold the table and turn it and yet four run around the    table in opposite direction not to make the first feel bad (when being    turned). Pitily, it lacks this kind of dark humour as Nick's msg does. 2. To my mind the signature should be smth like:                    /       _                     __        /  .                 /_______/_/_______________    /________ /____/          /___ /      _                  /                                            Albert
In article <1rd7eo$1a4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cy779@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Anas Omran) writes: |>  |> There are many neutral human rights organizations which always report |> on the situation in the O.T.  But, as most people used to see on TV, the |> Israelis do not allow them to go deep there in the O.T.  The Israelis  |> used to arrest and sometimes to kill some of these neutral reporters.   |> So, this is another kind of terrorism committed by the Jews in Palestine. |> They do not allow fair and neutral coverage of the situation in Palestine.  Please list the names of some of those neutral reporters that were killed in the "O.T.".  It is also interesting to note that at the outbreak of the intifada, palestinian parties quickly began orchestrating their demonstrations for the benefit of the media.  Having spoken to a Danish reporter who covered the initfada, I know of at least one case where he found out that a "mass demonstration" on the outskirts of Gaza was setup for himself and his colleagues.  When I asked whether the footage shot was sent he replied affirmatively, "after all, it did happen." When this became the case, the IDF began closing sensitive trouble spots to reporters.  |> Anas Omran |>
ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:   >In article <1sueslINNa6g@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>, >jovanovic-nick@yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:   >> "Muslim" in ex-Yugoslavia was a *nation* not a religion.  In fact, not >> all Muslims in B-H are followers of Islam.  Therefore, there do (did?) >> exist in ex-Yugoslavia "Christian Muslims."    >Yeah!  That's it! :)  You've really outdone yourself this time Nick... >Don't forget the "Davidian Muslims"... :)  >Islam is not a race.  It's a religion.  You can be white, black, >Fijian or Alaskan.  I guess you didn't absorb too much of the Malcolm >X interest circulating.  You see, the whole point of Islam is that it >stresses equality amongst all peoples.  Now, I do realize this is >difficult for you to comprehend given your staunch beliefs in Serbian >ethnic cleansing, but give it a try, it's really not that difficult.  Is your stomach all right? Unable to digest your lunch? Cool down... In the context of Bosnia muslims are a nation. And nobody talked about them being a race.  >> It is a >> civil war in which the terms of secession are being negotiated with guns >> instead of pens.  The Croat, Muslim, and Serb political leaders *all* >> chose to fight over the terms of secession instead of compromising and >> peacefully negotiating multilateral secession agreements.   >Terms of secession?  You are, of course, joking, right Nick?  Nobody >*chose* to fight.  Bosnia and Croatia were *internationally* >recognized nations when the Serbs attacked and started on their >well-documented genocide.  That makes them an outside aggressor.  It's >a simple genocide, a classical example of ethnic cleansing.  There is >no question of civil war...  And Yugoslavia was a recognized nation. If you apply the principle  of self determination to Yugoslavia then you should apply it to Croatia and Bosnia. Of course, you might want to apply again to Kossovo.
Let me remind all of those Muslim-haters out there who like to mention the Mufti's cooperation with Germany as a reason to let Muslims be slaughtered everywhere in the world of the following facts:  1)Why blame the Muslims for what the Nazis did and FORGIVE ITALY, THE CROATS, AND MANY OTHER EUROPEANS FOR BEING REAL ALLIES TO HITLER?  2)Why blame Muslims for supporting Germany the enemy of their enemy at the time (Britain who colonized most of the middle east and was responsible for most atrocities against Muslims in the region) and FORGIVE GERMANY ITSELF EVENTHOUGH IT IS THE ONE WHO CREATED NAZISM?  3)As far as Muslims are concerned : THERE WAS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NAZI GERMANY, AND ANTIMUSLIM COLONIALIST BRITAIN/FRANCE IN 1940. They were all racist, anti-arab, and full of arrogance and hate. WWII and the wars  in ALgeria, Sudan, and other places proved that very clearly. Even anti- semitism was not more spread in Germany than in France or Britain, it just happened to be official policy in Germany.  And we will forgive you, just set our countries free.
In article <1993Apr15.204930.9517@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU  writes: |>  |> In article <1993Apr15.055341.6075@nysernet.org>, astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) writes: |> |> I guess Hasan finally revealed the source of his claim that Israel |> |> diverted water from Lebanon--his imagination. |> |> --  |> |> Alan H. Stein                     astein@israel.nysernet.org |> Mr. water-head, |> i never said that israel diverted lebanese rivers, in fact i said that |> israel went into southern lebanon to  make sure that no  |> water is being used on the lebanese |> side, so that all water would run into Jordan river where there |> israel will use it  !#$%^%&&*-head.  Of course posting some hard evidence or facts is much more difficult.  You have not bothered to substantiate this in any way.  Basil, do you know of any evidence that would support this?  I can just imagine a news report from ancient times, if Hasan had been writing it.  Newsflash: Cairo AP (Ancient Press).  Israel today denied Egypt acces to the Red Sea.  In a typical display of Israelite agressiveness, the leader of the Israelite slave revolt, former prince Moses, parted the Red Sea. The action is estimated to have caused irreparable damage to the environment. Egyptian authorities have said that thousands of fisherman have been denied their livelihood by the parted waters.  Pharaoh's brave charioteers were successful in their glorious attempt to cause the waters of the Red Sea to return to their normal state.  Unfortunately they suffered heavy casualties while doing so.  |> Hasan
In article <1993Apr17.160731.3178@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> alaa@peewee.unx.dec.com (Alaa Zeineldine) writes: >nstramer@supergas.dazixco.ingr.com (Naftaly Stramer) writes: >:  >:                      THE HAMAS WAY of DEATH >:   >:      (Following is a transcript of a recruitment and training >: videotape made last summer by the Qassam Battalions, the military >> >Alaa Zeineldine  While you brought up the separate question of Israel's unjustified policies and practices, I am still unclear about your reaction to the practices and polocies reflected in the article above.
In article <93106.082650FINAID5@auvm.american.edu> <FINAID5@auvm.american.edu> writes: >Message-ID: <1993Apr15.174657.6176@news.uiowa.edu> Mr.Napoleon responds: > >** There were a couple millions of Greeks living in Asia Minor >**until 1923 Someone had to protect them. If not us who?? > > >Is that so? or you were taking advantage of weakness of ottoman >empire to grab some land. As soon as you got green lights from >allied forces, you occupied Izmir and other cities in western >Turkey. You killed and  raped millions people without any reason. >Of course, you paid the price. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk made >you swim in aegean sea but not far enough. Your aggressions thru >Turkey at anytime in the past did not get you any reward and shall >not get you anywhere.   Don't swallow propaganda as truth Sir. British promised to Venizelos (greek PM) that mainly greek populated areas of the Ottomans will be given to Greece, _if_ he will agree to drag Greece in the side of the British during the WWI (because the greek King was proGerman). The British succeeded by bombarding Athens (1916), killing quite a few, forcing abdication of the King, division of Greece into two separate states (North-South), and finally laying the ground for the most disasterous division between greeks for our century.(So don't feel bitter that the "Allies" gave any green light because they liked us....)  Anyway, the British succeed to establish Venizelos, war starts at a second front against the Germans in the south while they were fighting the war in the East against the Russians, and finally the WWII came in an end. After that the British (and French) forgot immediately their promises (as usually). Even though publicly they say that they support the Greek cause, practically they not only do nothing, but instead, using some usual "reasoning" and other crap rhetoric as a pretext, they gradually backup Kemal (who had given now to the British "water and bread" that he will dissolve the superethnic Ottoman and contract it into a small ethnic-state). The main drive behind this British switch was the plan to keep a Muslim state in the region as buffer against a Russian expansion into warm-water facilities. The "greek empire" being an Orthodox Christian state was too prone to become Russian client.  Out of this intrigue, the current state of affairs was established on our lands. While Venizelos and Kemal were promoted as true "Giants" by the British, since they worked to realize their goals in the region. Under the same plan, currently Greece and Turkey are recipients of big military funds from the US; both they are functioning as anti-Russian buffers, while simultaneously both remain good clients of State Dept. because otherwise the use of terror of changing "the balance of power in the Aegean" will be used.  Under the same exact rational you should see the Cyprus problem.  Gr