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1993 World Championships in Germany:  ====================================    Group A standings (Munich)            Group B standings (Dortmund)   --------------------------            ----------------------------               GP  W T L  GF-GA +/-  P                  GP  W T L  GF-GA +/-  P    Canada      5  5 0 0  31- 4 +27 10    Czech republic 5  4 1 0  17- 4 +13  9   Sweden      5  3 0 2  17-14  +3  6    Germany        5  4 0 1  20-12  +8  8   Russia      5  2 1 2  15-12  +3  5    USA            5  2 2 1  14-10  +4  6   Switzerland 5  2 0 3  11-14  -3  4    Finland        5  2 1 2   7- 7   0  5   ----------------------------------    -------------------------------------   Italy       4  1 1 2   7-19 -12  3    Norway         4  0 0 4   1-13 -12  0   Austria     4  0 0 4   3-21 -18  0    France         4  0 0 4   6-19 -13  0     April 18:  Italy - Russia        2-2       Norway - Germany          0-6             Sweden - Austria      1-0       USA - Czech republic      1-1   April 19:  Canada - Switzerland  2-0             Russia - Austria      4-2       Finland - France          2-0   April 20:  Sweden - Canada       1-4       Czech republic - Germany  5-0             Switzerland - Italy   0-1       Finland - USA             1-1   April 21:                                  Germany - France          5-3             Italy - Sweden        2-6       Czech republic - Norway   2-0   April 22:  Switzerland - Russia  0-6       USA - France              6-1             Austria - Canada      0-11      Norway - Finland          0-2   April 23:  Switzerland - Austria 5-1       Germany - Finland         3-1   April 24:  Russia - Sweden       2-5       Czech republic - France   6-2             Canada - Italy       11-2       USA - Norway              3-1   April 25:  Sweden - Switzerland  4-6       Finland- Czech republic   1-3             Russia - Canada       1-3       Germany - USA             6-3   April 26:  Austria - Italy                 France - Norway		20:00     PLAYOFFS:  =========   April 27:	Quarterfinals 		Sweden - USA						15:30 		Russia - Germany					20:00   April 28:	Quarterfinals 		Canada - Finland					15:30 		Italy/Switzerland - Czech republic			20:00   April 29:	Relegation 		A #5 - B #6						15:30 		A #6 - B #5						20:00   April 30:	Semifinals 		A #1/B #4 - A #3/B #2					15:30 		A #4/B #1 - A #2/B #3					20:00   May 1:		Relegation						14:30 		Bronze medal game 					19:00   May 2:		FINAL							15:00
rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:    >   Ten years ago, the number of Europeans in the NHL was roughly a quarter >of what it is now. Going into the 1992/93 season, the numbers of Euros on >NHL teams have escalated to the following stats:  >Canadians: 400 >Americans: 100 >Europeans: 100  >   Please note that these numbers are rounded off, and taken from the top >25 players on each of the 24 teams. My source is the Vancouver Sun.  >   Here's the point: there are far too many Europeans in the NHL. I am sick >of watching a game between an American and a Canadian team (let's say, the >Red Wings and the Canucks) and seeing names like "Bure" "Konstantinov" and >"Borshevshky". Is this North America or isn't it? Toronto, Detriot, Quebec, >and Edmonton are particularly annoying, but the numbers of Euros on other >teams is getting worse as well.   Is the answer as simple as that you dislike russians???  >    I live in Vancouver and if I hear one more word about "Pavel Bure, the >Russian Rocket" I will completely throw up. As it is now, every time I see >the Canucks play I keep hoping someone will cross-check Bure into the  >plexiglass so hard they have to carry him out on a stretcher. (By the way,  >I'm not a Canucks fan to begin with ;-).   >Okay, the stretcher remark was a little carried away. But the point is that >I resent NHL owners drafting all these Europeans INSTEAD of Canadians (and >some Americans). It denies young Canadians the opportunity to play in THEIR >NORTH AMERICAN LEAGUE and instead gives it to Europeans, who aren't even >better hockey players. It's all hype. This "European mystique" is sickening, >but until NHL owners get over it, Canadian and American players will continue >to have to fight harder to get drafted into their own league.  >    With the numbers of Euros in the NHL escalating, the problem is clearly >only getting worse.  And where would canadian hockey be today without the europeans?? Dont say that the european influence on the league has been all bad for the game. I mean, look at the way you play these days. Less fights and more hockey. Imho, canadian hockey has had a positive curve of development since the 70's when the game was more brute than beauty......  >    I'm all for the creation of a European Hockey League, and let the Bures >and Selannes of the world play on their own continent.  Oh, look!! You don't like Finns either....  >    I just don't want them on mine. Too bad almost all of you northamericans originates from europe.....  Hmmm... And what kind of a name is Rauser. Doesn't sound very "canadian" to me. ;-)
In article <ragraca.735586800@vela.acs.oakland.edu> ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes: > >It's true that Vancouver did not make the playoffs for many a year before  >Quinn came, but in those years the Smythe Division was a lot--I mean *a lot*-- >tougher division than the Norris, also known as the "Snorris", division. >Vancouver had to play Edmonton and Calgary, both very legitimate Stanley >Cup contenders, eight times a year, while Detroit got to play such  >powerhouses as Toronto and Minnesota.  Now, Edmonton is hardly even a force >in the league, and the Smythe even has the mighty San Jose sharks, while  Them thar's fighting words...hardly a force...geez...miss the playoffs once in 15 years, and even after making the final four 3 times in the last five years, and everyone thinks its doomsville.  >over this same period of time in which Vancouver was improving, so was  >everybody in the Norris (except St. Louis).  Detroit had to improve just >to keep up with the competition in their division.  They had to improve *a >lot* to get better than their competition in the Norris. > >Bryan Murray inherited a team with very little talent.  For really good >players, they had Yzerman, Burr, and Probert, and that was about it.  (And >no doubt some will dispute whether Burr and Probert were that good). The >rest were either very green rookies or washed up veterans.  The only reason >they got as far as they did in the years before Murray came was due to the >coaching of Demers, who, at least at first, got every last ounce of effort >possible out of his team.  Then, even his coaching began to degrade. >  Fedorov, Primeau, Kozlov, Lidstrom, Sillinger, Konstantinov, Drake, Kennedy, Racine, and Cheveldae were already in the pipeline due to Devellano...Murray inherited these guys...in addition to Yzerman, Probert, Carson, Chiasson, etc.  >There are a number of reasons why Detroit wasn't in as bad a shape standings >wise when Murray took over as Vanc. was when Quinn took over, some of which >I outlined above, but Murray did not have any better personnel to work with >at the outset than did Quinn, with the exception of Yzerman.  And one player >cannot alone make a team into a Stanley Cup contender, as I'm sure everyone >reading this will agree.   >  No...Quinn had far less...Murray took over Detroit at a time to  take advantage of all of Devellano's good drafting...if Devellano had not given in to Demers request to make the Oates trade, he might still be GM.
gballent@hudson.UVic.CA (Greg  Ballentine) writes:  >All of this is fine.  I never said that Murray was a bad GM.  I merely said >that he isn't the best GM in hockey- or even a contender for that honor. >If Murray is as great as you claim- the Wings would have won the Stanley Cup >by now- probably more than once.  If he was as great a GM as you claim  I think you missed one of my points there.  It takes *more* than a great GM to win a stanley cup, even once.  Some of the guys on the list you gave earlier never won one.  I agree that you and I could probably argue back and forth for days to no avail about who is the best GM in hockey- that is a matter of opinion, and who is to say my opinion is any better  than yours or yours than mine?  But the point of my *original* original post (if not well stated) was that Murray has the GM abilities but not the coaching abilities.  Which leads to below:  >and he was as poor a coach as you claim- he would have been intelligent >enough to hire the coach to push the team to the next level of success.  I think at this point there's a personal, emotional element involved here which transcends Murray's logical thought.  As outsiders, it's fine for  us to say, "He should hire a different coach."  In fact, he has talked about doing so in the past.  But, the press (here in Detroit, at least) has so built up this business about Murray never getting past the second round of the playoffs as a coach, that I think he has taken it upon himself to  prove to the world that he *is* capable of coaching a team past the second round.  He needs to, as the papers say, "get that monkey off his back." So it becomes a matter not of intelligence, but of pride.  Is it foolish to let pride stand in the way of sound logic?  Perhaps, but we're all a little that way from time to time.  I think eventually he'll step down from behind the bench and concentrate on his GM duties, and the team will improve as a result.  I think his coaching duties take away time he might have otherwise spent on GM work.  In that sense, once he steps down as coach, we'll see how good of a GM he really is.  >But Murray is an average (unspectacular) NHL coach and a pretty good GM >so none of this is true anyway.  I may not agree with everything you've said, but it's been fun discussing it with you.  >Gregmeister
This will be my last post ( promotion ) of the hockey pool.. I will  update the pool ( or try to ) every wednesday   Subject: Please join my hockey playoff pool.  Deadline for pool: Midnight Saturday Rules: Read on Cost: NONE PRIZES: NONE Send replies to : Montana@pinetree.org   Note: if your entries is send by midnight saturday it will be accepted       please include your name                  Rules to the ACME hockey playoff pool    Critierias  Pick 9 forwards  ( as long as they are forwards LW=RW=C is okay)  Pick 6 defensemen  ( arrange them in a lines, 3 forwards and two defense = 1 line   ( and arranged them in line order , which of your players would         ( play in the first line and which plays in the second line   Pick 1 designated playmaker          ( can be any positions...try a defensemen )  Pick 1 designated scorer ( can be any positions )  Pick 1 goal-tender  Pick a team   ( the one you think may win the cup )                               *note: players can only be chosen once !  ie Cannot have Sakic as forward and again as designated passer  -----------------------------------------------------------------                            Calculation of points:    ( except for designated scorer and playmaker)    1 assist  = 1 pt   IXI  1 goal = 1 pt  II     ( for players in line 1, their pt totals will be *2 )           line 1 = pts * 2           line 2 = pts * 1.5           line 3 = pts * 1    1 win     = 2 pt  ( for goalies)        The team that wins the Cup = 10 pts     For the designated playmaker         Designated Calculation will be as follows       Scorer:Goal    = 3 pts Every goal scored = 0.5 points             Assists = 0.5 pts Every assists     = 2 points       In the event of a tie, the tie will be broken by unmodified    Goal totals and then by game winning goals   ----SAMPLE-------------------------------------    eg designated scorer = Jeremy Roenick       Actual: G=12, A=10, Pts=22  Modified G=(12*3) + A=(10*0.5) = 41    .            designated playmaker = Steve Smith       Actual: G=1,  A=11, Pts=12  Modified G=(1*0.5)  + A=(11*2) = 22.5    .    line 1 = J Murphy(24)- G Courtnall(14)- M Messier(14)                    Dave Manson(12)-  Iafrate(7)        Total points = 142 points for that line!
In article <ragraca.735309624@vela.acs.oakland.edu> ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes: >golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes: > >>Bryan Murray has done very little as GM...Yzerman, Fedorov, Cheveldae, >>Chaisson, the whole Russian strategy was a product of the previous >>GM...Murray has made a couple of decent trades...that's about it... >>that would hardly rank him as the best GM. > >There are many teams in the NHL who have taken a liking to Russian players. >The "whole Russian strategy" is not specific to Detroit or to Devellano, >who was GM before Murray.  What the previous GM also did was to trade  >away several players who have gone on to do well with other teams, most >notably (in my memory) Murray Craven, who had a few very good years with >Philly after leaving here.  Also, it's not the volume of trades that will  >necessarily improve a team, but the quality of them.  Trading Adam Oates >for Bernie Federko was just plain stupid, even if Federko used to be a  >great player at one time.  Most of Murray's trades have worked significantly >to the Wings' advantage, with those that didn't being soured mainly by  >injury to the players involved (such as Troy Crowder, who suffered back >problems from which he never really recovered). >  Devallano went earlier and more extensively to the Russian strategy than anyone else...and was the first GM to "waste" high draft choices on young Russians...Devallano would still be GM but he succombed to Demers pleading to make the Oates-Federko et al trade...which is the deal that sealed his fate.  Murray has made some decent trades...no doubt...but these are more due to the stupidity or cheapness of other teams than brilliance on his part...Washington was too cheap to pay Ciccarelli so they essentially gave him away...and Carson was really a big anchor to the team, and he was able to sucker a rookie GM to give him Paul Coffey for deadweight.  If Detroit still fails this year because he was one defenseman short... then he will have wasted an opportunity because Manson was available, and he was unable to pull the trigger.  It is his judgement that he has enough with what he's got...Yzerman doesn't have that many more years in his prime.
Have you ever noticed that after a hockey player has been interviewed in between periods on a tv game. That they usually get a goal or an assist. can you explain this or is it that they usually talk  to stars more than regular players which explains the hight  percentage of results after.  Just wondering how everybody else thinks about this or if they dont  care about this trivial nonsense. ttyl  Tom
I heard a story on the local sports news broadcast in Edmonton. Oiler owner Peter Pocklington will be holding a press conference next week. While the exact details are not known, it is believed to concern the Oiler's future.  Rumour has it that Pocklington signed a tentative lease arrangement with Copps Collesium in Hamilton. During the press conference, Pocklington may announce the deal. It is quite possible that the deal may simply be a way to force Edmonton Northlands to renegotiate the Oiler lease on the stadium.  Northlands has offered to buy the Oilers for $65 million earlier, but the offer was rejected immediately by Pocklington.
In article <1993Apr21.073134.5117@ericsson.se> etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson) writes: > > 1993 World Championships in Germany: > ====================================  Is there any games being shown here in the US from the WC???  Thanks
Detroit's going to beat Toronto in 6 or LESS!!!   Granted, Gilmour should get the Hart Trophy, NOT Lemieux... Just Look at what Gilmour did for Toronto.  When you think of Toronto, who comes to mind, Gilmour, Andreychuk, Potvin...ah...did I mentio n Gilmour?  Back to Detroit...  There really isn't a team that could stand up to them if all the players on the team play to their potential, no one could stop them.  Yzerman, Fedorov, Coffey, Lindstrom... there's more firepower there than Pittsburgh... and they don't tri p over their own skates! -----------------------------------------------------------------------   /------------/ Detroit over Toronto in 5     Patrick Walker  / /--\------/   Detroit over Chicago in 6     University of New Bruns.  ! !  !---/      Detroit over Vancouver in 6   Canada  \ \__/ /        Detroit over Nords in 6       "Disco Still Sucks!"
Buffalo is up 2-0 is the series with Boston, and the reason....Grant Fuhr ?   Fuhr is playoff hungry, and he's proving once again why they call him   money goaltender. Fuhr might not be one of the best goaltenders in the   league anymore (Statistically at least), but he's proving that he can   make the big save at the right time.      The Leafs should have kept Fuhr, and probably would have had a chance    against powerhouse Detroit. But again.......where was Andreychoke in game 1 ?    I can see the huge smile on Gerald's face after Fuhr's performance.
Here are the results after three days of voting. Remember 3pts for  1st, 2 for 2nd, and 1 for 3rd. Also, you can still turn in votes! And.. if the guy isn't a regular goalie or he is retired, please include the team!  Thanks for your time, and keep on sending in those votes!  Player                  Team                  Pts     Votes ----------------------------------------------------------- 1. Brian Hayward        San Jose              15        6    Andy Moog            Boston                15        6 3. Curtis Joseph        St. Louis             11        5 4. Ed Belfour           Chicago               10        5 5. Gerry Cheevers       Boston (retired)       5        3     Manon Rheaume        Atlanta (IHL)          5        2    Ron Hextall          Quebec                 5        2 8. Don Beaupre          Washington             4        2 ----------------------------------------------------------- Others receiving 1 vote: Artus Irbe (SJ), Tim Cheveldae (Det),  Clint Malarchuck (Buf/SD,IHL), Grant Fuhr (Buf), Rick Wamsley   (Tor,ret), Jon Casey (Minn), John Vanbiesbrouck (NYR),  Ken Dryden (Mon,ret), Bob Essensa (Win), Mike Vernon (Cal),  Glenn Healy (NYI), Tommy Soderstron (???), Ray LeBlanc (USA).
In article <0foVj7i00WB4MIUmht@andrew.cmu.edu> Mamatha Devineni Ratnam <mr47+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > >Well, it's not that bad. But I am still pretty pissed of at the >local ABC coverage. They cut off the first half hour of coverage by playing  [stuff deleted]  Ok, here's the solution to your problem.  Move to Canada.  Yesterday I was able to watch FOUR games...the NJ-PITT at 1:00 on ABC, LA-CAL at 3:00 (CBC),  BUFF-BOS at 7:00 (TSN and FOX), and MON-QUE at 7:30 (CBC).  I think that if each series goes its max I could be watching hockey playoffs for 40-some odd consecutive nights (I haven't counted so that's a pure guess).  I have two tv's in my house, and I set them up side-by-side to watch MON-QUE and keep an eye on BOS-BUFF at the same time.  I did the same for the two afternoon games.  Btw, those ABC commentaters were great!  I was quite impressed; they seemed to know that their audience wasn't likely to be well-schooled in hockey lore and they did an excellent job.  They were quite impartial also, IMO.
In <DREIER.93Apr19195132@durban.berkeley.edu> dreier@durban.berkeley.edu (Roland Dreier) writes:  >The San Francisco Bay area media is reporting tonight that the Detroit >Red Wings beat the Toronto Maple Leafs 6-3.  Can someone who is not >part of the media conspiracy against the Leafs tell me how the game >really went (I am expecting a 4-0 win for the Leafs, shutout for >Potvin, hat trick for Andreychuk and a goal and 3 assists for >Gilmour).  If the Leafs really lost, how many penalties did whichever >biased ref was at the game have to call against the Leafs to let the >Red Wings win?  Ah yes.  California.  Did the San Francisco Bay area media report that Joe Montana is rumoured to be the leading candidate to replace fired San Jose Sharks coach George Kingston?  Apparently Montana is not only coveted for his winning attitude, but as a playing coach he will be expected to quarterback the powerplay.  Good thing those walls are so soft, eh Rollie?   --
In article <1r8p64$kj6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, vergolin@euler.lbs.msu.edu (David Vergolini) wrote: >  >Did anyone see the Montreal - Quebec game yesterday?  It was tight right down >to the last second of the third period.  In the overtime Roy and Hextall played >like they were gods. >Ok, so Montreal won!  They deserved it after getting their first goal in >overtime waved off because the puck was hit in with a high stick.  Their second >goal in overtime was also replayed, but I could not tell if it was the Montreal >player who kicked it in.  The puck definitely was not directed in by a stick. >Anyways, Montreal is back into the series. >   The overhead replay pretty clearly showed that it was the Quebec  defender who deflected the puck.  The re-play officials did not  take nearly as much time to make this call as they did for the first  non-goal, so it seemed pretty non-controversial.  I agree that it was a great game; good to see Roy and Damphousse back into form.  Hopefully the sign of good things to come...
I just overheard that San Jose Coach George Kingston was officially terminated today...  Maybe good news, maybe bad.  I kinda liked him, but he seemed to lack a certain fire.
In the mist of the Rangers soap box (i.e. Captain neMesis-ier/ex-coach  Roger Nebula bad blood bath) and with high hopes turned to new coach  Mr. Klean (Commissar Keenan)... I would like to know what procedures  hockey teams use to select their captains (including A's). Are they  selected by the coaching staff, do the players vote for a captain, or  are they appointed by management?  And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded,  resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other  team captain trivia would be appreciated.
pereira@CAM.ORG (Dean Pereira) writes:   >		With the kind of team Montreal has now,  they can take the >cup easily.  The only problem they have right now is that everyone is >trying to steal the show and play alone.  They need some massive teamwork. >	They are also in a little of a slump because long-time hockey >Montreal Canadiens announcer Claude Mouton died last tuesday and it was >rough on everybody because he has worked with the organization for 21 >years.  But I know that is no excuse.  But if the Habs manage to get some >good teamwork and get into the spirit,  they should have no problem >winning in May.     I agree. I also think Roy needs a good kick sometimes...that horrible 4-0 loss to the Capitals last week...yeeeech!     Here's to Cup #23...this year!    --  Richard J. Rauser        "You have no idea what you're doing." rauser@sfu.ca            "Oh, don't worry about that. We're professional WNI                          outlaws - we do this for a living."
Anna Matyas (am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Michael Collingridge writes: : >And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded,  : >resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other  : >team captain trivia would be appreciated. ; : Wasn't Ron Francis captain of the Whalers when he was traded to : Pittsburgh?    And Rick Tochett was the captain of the Flyers when traded to the Pens recently...  Caleb  And let us not forget that the New Jersey Devils traded captain Kirk Muller for Stephen Richer and Chorske