waashk/20ng huggingface dataset:
In article <1254@rd1.interlan.com> tonyf@rm1.interlan.com (Tony Fernandez) writes: >The Marlins tried something like this and was a complete failure.  On >Opening Day, instead of having a 7th-inning stretch with the singing of >Take Me Out to the Ballgame, they had some young women on the field lead >the crowd into doing aerobics while the PA was playing Gloria Estefan's >Get On Your Feet.  The fans actually booed and started singing Take Me >Out... on their own.  I actually kind of felt sorry for the girls.  Are you kidding?  I'm stuck with the Toronto SkyDome, where their idea of a 7th inning stretch is that "Blue Jays" song where everyone gets to yell:  "Okay, okay, Blue Jays, Blue Jays, Let's Play Ball!"  Wow.. what genius did it take to compose that one, to outshine the old classic.  And there are women on the field to "lead the crowd".
In article <mssC5KCru.5Ip@netcom.com>, mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) writes: |>  |>  |> The media is beating the incident at Dodger Stadium on Wednesday to |> death, but I haven't seen anything in rsb yet. |>  |> Gerald Perry of the Cardinals pinch hit in the eighth inning with two |> on and his club down by a run.  He stroked a line drive into the |> right field corner.  The ball cleared the three-foot high fence and |> went into the crowd.  Darryl, racing over from right center, got to |> the spot in time to reach his glove up over the short fence, but he |> missed the ball.  A fan sitting in the front row, wearing a mitt, |> reached up and caught the ball.  Home run. |>  |> Now I've seen the replay several times and I have concluded that |> Darryl missed the ball, and that the fan's glove was essentially |> behind Darryl's.  Several Dodger fans with seats in the immediate |> vicinity have claimed that the fan unquestionably interfered with |> Strawberry.  What cannot be disputed, however, is that the fan |> who caught the ball never took his eye off it;  he was oblivious |> to where the fielder was playing.  He was also quite exuberant as |> soon as he realized he had made the catch. |>  |> [Stuff about Daryl and Tommy and everyone blaming fan for the loss deleted]
I am trying to get a copy of the _official_ rules of baseball. Someone once sent me the ISBN number of it, but I have since lost it. Can anyone give me this information, or tell me where I can find the book?  None of my local bookstores have it.
In article <1qkkodINN5f5@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> pablo@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Pablo A Iglesias) writes: >In article <15APR93.14691229.0062@lafibm.lafayette.edu> VB30@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes: >>Just wondering.  A friend and I were talking the other day, and >>we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish >>baseball players, past and present.  We weren't able to come up >>with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and >>maybe John Lowenstein.  Can anyone come up with any more.  I know >>it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but >>humor us.  Thanks for your help. > >Hank Greenberg would have to be the most famous, because his Jewish >faith actually affected his play. (missing late season or was it world >series games because of Yom Kippur)  The other Jewish HOF'er is Rod Carew (who converted).    Lowenstein is Jewish, as well as Montana's only representative to the major leagues.  Undeserving Cy Young award winner Steve Stone is Jewish.  Between Stone, Koufax, Ken Holtzman (? might have the wrong pitcher, I'm thinking of the one who threw a no-hitter in both the AL and NL), and Big Ed Reulbach, that's quite a starting rotation.  Moe Berg can catch.  Harry Steinfeldt, the 3b in the Tinkers-Evers-Chance infield.  Is Stanky Jewish?  Or is that just a "Dave Cohen" kinda misinterpretation? Whatever, doesn't look like he stuck around the majors too long.
According to an article in the LA Times, Todd Worrell will not be ready to come off the DL list Friday.  It sounds like he has had another set back in his come back.  At present, he has stopped throwing the ball.  Supposedly, he had no velocity.  It doesn't sound like there is any particular time table at this point for when he will be back.
In article <1993Apr23.200913.6611@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes: >In article <1993Apr21.012139.13444@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes:  >>When I say "black," I mean US-born black people for the purposes of this >>discussion.  Hispanic players were in baseball before 1947, and one  >>team in the 50's signed lots of hispanics because they went over better >>with the local audience than blacks did.    >What about black hispanics?  Good question.  It's my impression, not backed by evidence, that general south-of-the-borderness seems to exempt one from the hiring-firing effect I was talking about.    Back in the 20's there were some attempts to hire black Cuban ballplayers;  they were rejected by the commissioner and others.  >>>And why would more hispanics stick around than blacks?  >>Don't know.  But remember: this is the country that had special racial >			    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>laws for one group and one group only: blacks.  Our national history  > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  >Man, you had better do some SERIOUS reading. I really, really doubt that you >meant to say this.  Well, what *did* I mean to say?  Aside from some short-lived exceptions such as Japanese internment in WW II, only blacks were affected by laws regarding: slavery, Jim Crow, miscegenation, military service, etc.  If my claim of exclusivity is not 100% airtight, that is, if you can come up with this or that exception, fine -- have a cookie.  But compared to this list, no other racial group put up with a legal onslaught worth discussing at length.
In article <C5109u.7C0@ucdavis.edu> itlm013@dale.ucdavis.edu (Donnie Trump) writes: >I was watching Peter Gammons on ESPN last night, and he's got me a little >confused. > >While talking about expansion, he started mentioning people who might benefit >from the fringe players they'll be facing: McGriff hitting 50 home runs, >Sheffield getting 150 rbi's, and Glavine winning 25 games.  This was, >of course, all in reference to what happened the *other* times that baseball >has expanded (early 60's, late 60's, late 70's). > >What really confused me, though, was the mention of *AL* players who would >do well next year.  Specifically, Roger Clemens winning 25 games, and the >likes of McGwire and Gonzalez hitting 50 home runs. > >My question is:  How in the hell will the Rockies/Marlins help the AL?  The >last time I looked, there wasn't a lot of talent jumping leagues.  Did I >miss something? > >Dennis Cleary >dfcleary@ucdavis.edu >  I wondered the same thing.  When he first mentioned it, I thought he was just making a mistake but then he said it over and over.  And then in the examples from other years, he gave stats for players from both leagues even when only one league expanded.  So (since stats *NEVER* lie :-) ), I guess there is an effect on both leagues because the expansion draft takes talent from both leagues equally making  every team in both leagues dilute their major league talent by calling up players that, normally, they would not have had there not been expansion.
Substituting irony for brains, (Bruce Klopfenstein) said:  >dtate+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate) writes:  >> Of *course* they left RBIs off; we're comparing Alomar the individual with >> Baerga the individual, so only individual stats count.    >I forgot.  Most runs are scored by players stealing home, so RBI don't >count for anything.  Uh, right.  You also forgot that you can't get an RBI (barring a HR) with nobody on base.  What fraction of all runs come on solo HR?  Most runs are scored because there happened to be players on base when the batter did something good.  I use the phrase "happened to be" advisedly. Lots of people have tried to figure out who the players are who have the most ability to "turn it up a notch" in clutch/RBI/whatever situations, and what they've found is that there is no evidence that *anyone* has such an ability to any measurable extent.  There are no clutch hitters.  People who tend to do things that *would* cause an RBI if there were somebody on base end up getting RBIs proportional to how many of their teammates obliged by being in position.    >My mistake.  I agree.
In article <1qlnknINN2sh@aludra.usc.edu> sheehan@aludra.usc.edu (Joseph Sheehan) writes:   Most of the points you made about Lopez v. Berryhill/Olson have been made by others, and realizing that Lopez must be the second coming of Frank Thomas, I have relented and praised the unmistakeable wisdom of his supporters.  > >Nope. They're baseball management, possible the most short-sighted  >collection of people in the nation. Do you not believe this goes on, >Mark? Do you think Frank Thomas needed those three months in AAA in >1990?  See?  This is essentially what everyone was doing  -  comparing Lopez to one of the best players in the game.  I'm really looking forward to seeing this can't-miss superstar now.  As for Thomas, I remember being an advocate of his being brought up in 1990 even though he was only 21 or 22 (can't remember).  But who did the Sox have at first? Calderon?  Martinez?  Kittle?  The spot was there.  The talent was there.  Sure, I say go for it.  I am not convinced that Lopez is anywhere near as talented as Thomas was after his AA season in 1989, and I am not convinced that Olson/ Berryhill are nearly as bad as Kittle/Martinez were.  BTW, I don't think Thomas was hurt by those three months.      >Or Cal Eldred wasn't *really* better than Ricky Bones last year?  Well, if we can't compare our guy to one of the best in the game, let's compare our decision to one of the most "Boneshead", right?  Cal Eldred was 24 when he came up, with a full season at AAA and a longer minor league career.  Frankly, I don't know why he didn't make the club in 1992.  Bones is a year younger with a lousy prior history, and just watching him makes me think that I missed a  career as a big-league pitcher.  No one -  I repeat NO ONE  - laughed louder than I did at the Sheffield trade.  (Though I guess Mieske has a future.)  (I take it back. McIlvaine may have laughed louder.)   > >You're mostly polite; make defensible, if flawed cases; have wit and >have, in the past, admitted being wrong. That does qualify you on r.s.b. >We'll make an SDCN out of you, yet :-)   aw, gee, shucks.  thanks guy.  except I missed the part where SDCN's admit they're wrong.    --	The Beastmaster
st1ge@Elroy.UH.EDU (Edward Hui) writes:  >In article <1993Apr21.032427.22464@leland.Stanford.EDU>, punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi) writes: >> >>As the heading indicates, it is impossible for me to fathom why Barry is not >>batting 4th for the Giants behind Will Clark.  Barry is such an awesome and >>consistent hitter -- definitely the best in the National League.  IMHO, to  >>have Williams, a streaky hitter (and not really a clutch hitter) batting >>4th ahead of Bonds is simply an injustice to the Giants and fans of the >>Giants.  >2 simple reasons:  >(2)   Having Bonds batting behind Williams means that Matt will get >      more good pitches to hit.  This is important since he struggles >      so much with breaking balls.  Opposing pitchers don't want to >      walk Williams to get to Bonds.  I don't understand this at all.  Matt Williams has demonstrated throughout his career that he will NOT wait for good pitches to hit. He won't take walks.  He'd rather swing.  If I'm the opposing pitcher, why would I groove a fastball to Williams and have him hit it well, when I know that Williams will swing (and miss, or at least not hit very well) at a low and away curve?
The Phillies were picked to be in first. Someone replied that the people who picked them were the same people who picked the Mets last year.  My reply:  Yeah, that may be true, but this IS the Phillies.
In article <snelson3.8.0@uwsuper.edu> snelson3@uwsuper.edu (SCOTT R. NELSON) writes: >The rotation has changed due to a "strange" injury to Scott Erickson.  He  >developed a twinge in the stomach area and has been taken out of the  >rotation.  New rotation (to the best of my mind's knowledge) is: >Kevin Tapani, Jim Deshais, Pat Mahomes, Willie Banks. > Add Mike Trombley in there somewhere, since they need five people.  Mark Guthrie will remain in the bullpen as the long lefty.  >As to SS and 3B: >Short will be played by Scott Leius who played short for much of his career  >before the Twins.  At third Mike Pagliarulo and Jeff Reboulet will platoon. > Pags and Terry Jorgenson will platoon at third, with Reboulet as the backup infielder.  Pags looked pretty miserable yesterday for a guy who lead the league in DA in 1991, muffing what should be routine grounders (heck, muffing a grounder *I* would probably have gotten to).  Jorgenson did nothing exceptional that I noticed.  Leius missed a ball I *think* Gagne would have reached; we will certainly miss Gag's glove this season.  >Winfield has struggled during preseason.  Sunday against the Colorado  >Rockies he went 2 for 3 with 2 RBIs and scored once. > He looked pretty good there.  Contrary to what the mediots have been saying, he looked reasonable at first.  He isn't mid-80s Hrbek, but then neither is the Pretty Big Guy himself any more (note:  I'm used to seeing the Twins 1B looking kinda big on the field, but not that big!).  If he hits vaguely like last year, he's a perfectly good first baseman.  Note:  Much of this posting is from personal observation yesterday in a game where the regulars were mostly pulled after several innings.  Winfield may have big holes in his defensive game that didn't show up (he didn't have to pick any bad throws, for example), but I'll take what I saw so far.
<RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:  [Some discussion about whether Elias is money grubbing deleted]  >funny, it seems to me that the stats major league and minor league handbooks, >which are nothing BUT collections of statistics, are authored by "bill james >and stats inc. (and howe, for the minor league handbook)".  >and i am not sure how the 1993 bill james player ratings book qualifies >as a "book with statistics", while the elias analyst is a "statistics book". >the analyst contains more stats, sure, but it also contains more dialogue.  >finally, the point was not about the word "statistics".  it was about >"money-grubbing".  i don't see how anyone who has looked at the bill >james player ratings book cannot consider him money-grubbing.  >bob vesterman.  Some thoughts and facts,  1.)  Bill James is a partial owner of STATS, inc.  However he has almost nothing to do with the day-to-day operations of the company, although he does have significant input into the design of the books that bear his name. (The handbook, but not the scoreboard).  To the best of my knowledge, the only things that Bill actually writes for STATS are the predictions section of the handbook, and the Bill James Fantasy Baseball rulebook.  2.) The debate over Elias goes way back.  Bill James' early stuff was hampered by the fact that Elias would not give access to their stats at any price. Project Scoresheet, and later, STATS were founded to fill this void.  You can call STATS, and ask them for a report on just about anything in their database, and they will provide it -- for a price, of course.  Or you could just log into their online system and look at the data yourself.  Having attempted to pry numbers from Elias in the past (football, not baseball), they just don't do that.  In STATS eyes, the high ground comes from making the information available at all.  3.)  That being said, I'm pretty dissapointed by Bill's book this year, too. I am given to understant that it was mostly a response to the publishers  desire to have the book come out sooner than April.  Hope this makes things just a little bit clearer.  (Bias alert.  I am a former part-time employee of STATS.)
In article <002251w.5.734117130@axe.acadiau.ca> 002251w@axe.acadiau.ca   (JASON WALTER WORKS) writes: >     The N.Y.Yankees, are now one game closer to the A.L.East pennant.    They  > clobbered Cleveland, 9-1, on a fine pitching performance by Key, and two  > homeruns by Tartabull(first M.L.baseball to go out this season), and a   three  > run homer by Nokes.  For all of you who didn't pick Boggs in your pools,  > tough break, he had a couple hits, and drove in a couple runs(with many   more  > to follow).  The Yanks beat an up and coming team of youngsters in the  > Indians.  The Yankees only need to win 95 more games to get the   division. >  GO YANKS., Mattingly for g.glove, and MVP, and Abbot for Cy Young. >  >                                              ---> jason.  Jason, I am going to a yankee game wed night at cleveland stadium. I am so   happy.   But Cleveland is a very bad team who lost severalrs. They were an up and   coming team, now they are just a sad excuse for a better average.
In article <Apr.5.16.22.48.1993.11331@pilot.njin.net> gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) writes: >anyone who writes "dean palmer has 2 homers  - at this pace, he'll > have 324 home runs!" should be shot.  The Dodgers after one inning of play have committed one error.  At this rate they'll have 1,455 errors this season!  Well maybe I'm right this time...  --  Warren Usui
In article <C5JCrF.KrM@news.udel.edu> philly@ravel.udel.edu (Robert C Hite) writes: > >DEAD WRONG!  Last time I checked, Jim Fregosi was still managing the >Phillies, and doing quite a fine job thank you...best record in >baseball at 8-1  Look, asshole, I got him confused with somebody else.  I didn't flame you, and I would appreciate it if you extended me the same courtesy.  No, I don't know everything in the world.  Does that surprise you?
I would e-mail this to you, but my mailserver doesn't recognize you or something.  Anyway, the worst pitcher on the Yanks. If you mean currently on the team, then I have to go with Scott "I'm a schizophrenic...No, I'm NOT!" Kamienicki. Sure, occasionally the guy can pitch well for 5 or 6 innings, but then he starts to go insane. A sure sign that he's losing his stuff (and his mind) is when he starts to stalk around the mound between batters and yell at himself.  The worst all-time Yanks pitcher?  Gotta go with Ed "New York? I have to pitch in [gulp] New York?" Whitson. 'Nuff said!   --I'm outta here like Vladimir! -Alan Sepinwall XVIII
In article <1993Apr6.233805.29755@freenet.carleton.ca> aa649@Freenet.carleton.ca (Ralph Timmerman) writes: >From: aa649@Freenet.carleton.ca (Ralph Timmerman) >Subject: Re: YANKKES 1 GAME CLOSER >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 23:38:05 GMT   >In a previous article, 002251w@axe.acadiau.ca (JASON WALTER WORKS) says:  >>    The N.Y.Yankees, are now one game closer to the A.L.East pennant.  They  >>clobbered Cleveland, 9-1, on a fine pitching performance by Key, and two  >>homeruns by Tartabull(first M.L.baseball to go out this season), and a three  >>run homer by Nokes.  For all of you who didn't pick Boggs in your pools,  >>tough break, he had a couple hits, and drove in a couple runs(with many more  >>to follow).  The Yanks beat an up and coming team of youngsters in the  >>Indians.  The Yankees only need to win 95 more games to get the division. >> GO YANKS., Mattingly for g.glove, and MVP, and Abbot for Cy Young. >> >>                                             ---> jason. >>  >Does that mean we have to read this drivel another 95 times this season? >Please spare us... And check you facts before you post! >--  >Ralph Timmerman                      "There is no life after baseball"       >aa649@freenet.carleton.ca    No one says you have to read any of it Ralph.. Go play in traffic.., or take  a nap... They work for me..
Darryl Strawberry's moon shots were fun!  He can hit those high and far home runs that if he actually ran them out he'd be rounding second base by the time they landed.  We used to say that he should have to file a flight plan at LaGuardia for some of them.  Then _Bull_Durham_ came out and that was changed.  :-)  On homers he pulled that didn't go high, they were microwave home runs. Microwave, as in they got outta there in a hurry!  In a game in 1988, he came off the bench with the flu and on the second pitch send a rocket down the right field line that didn't even allow Bob Murphy the "luxury" of a home run call.  The story went he stayed in the clubhouse, the with the Mets down by two and two on Davey Johnson sent for him to pinch hit. He came out of the clubhouse saying "one swing and we go home."  He hit the homer, ran the bases, then went straight for the clubhouse to shower and go home.  Those were the days....
DAK988S@vma.smsu.edu writes: >No....Hal McRae is the worst manager in baseball.  I haven't seen enough Royals' games to judge his tactics, so you may have a point here.  But:  >I've never seen a guy who can waste talent like he can.  One of the best >raw-talent staffs in the league, and he's still finding a way to lose.  IMO, the Royals don't have a chance to win the pennant even if McRae suddenly began channeling for John McGraw.  OK, they have some decent pitchers.  But when your offense consists of bums like Gagne and Lind and McReynolds and McRae and an over-the-hill Brett, you're not going to finish .500 unless McGraw brings Christy Mathewson back with him.  I'd say it is hard to evaluate a manager when all of his hitters suck.
In article <1993Apr13.232537.20672@cabell.vcu.edu>, csc2imd@cabell.vcu.edu (Ian M. Derby) writes: > >This talk about the Phillies winning the NL East is scary.  VERY >scary!  Don't get me wrong, Im a Phillies fan but as late as last >year they looked helpless.  The funny thing was they did have a lot >of injuries in '92 spring training that basically killed their >chances.  Of course, don't forget the Dykstra wrist injury in the >first or second game? > First game, first at bat.
In article <mssC5Mx2v.C44@netcom.com>, mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) says: > >Lasorda juggled his lineup against the Pirates Friday night, and from >the results one might conclude that he will stick with the changes >for a while. > >Butler          reclaimed leadoff spot, probably for the whole season >Davis           wants to get his speed into play.  4-for-4 last night >Piazza          the kid is doing *everything* well.  very well. >Strawberry      the primadonna insists on batting cleanup  how do you know this? did lasorda say, before the game, "here's the lineup i'm using.  i'm batting strawman fourth because the primadonna insists on batting cleanup"?  if this is true (note that i don't think it is), lasorda should be fired for at least two reasons:           1) publicly humiliating his players;          2) knuckling under to his players wishes.  however, i think that the more likely explanation is that lasorda wanted strawberry to bat fourth, and that you hate strawberry.
I know, you all were saying "Ha!  The Braves score a few runs for  Maddux, that'll shut that guy up."  But no,  I think we'll just keep track a bit longer...  Last  outing: 5 runs.  Total to date:  8 runs, 4 games  Braves record in Maddux's starts:  2-2  See ya next time.  Dennis
I know there's been a lot of talk about Jack Morris' horrible start, but what about Dennis Martinez.  Last I checked he's 0-3 with 6+ ERA. Is the ageless wonder finally showing his age?  Does he usually start off the season so slowly?  I know he plans to start tonight.   I hope he comes around....  I would appreciate any feedback concerning outlook on rest of Dennis Martinez's season...  Thanks in advance,
briefly, since i'm off to sleep.  mle's work pretty well for AA nd AAA players.  players who are 22 and younger will tend to have explosions  in their numbers, whether mMLE's or not, in the next 2 years...  players who are 26 and OLDER, at those levels, generally have  inflated MLE's.  they're about as reliable as having major league stats for a player.
Hi all,  	I got tired of waiting for a mailing list so I am going to make one.... just send me your complete e-mail address on your message and I'll send you a confirmation and the Yankee mailing list address  -john