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Atrocity Reports Horrify Azerbaijan :  "Azeri officials who returned from the seen to this town about nine miles   away brought back three dead children, the backs of their heads blown off...  'Women and children had been scalped,' said Assad Faradzev, an aide to   Karabagh's Azeri governor.  Azeri television showed pictures of one   truckload of bodies brought to the Azeri town of Agdam, some with their   faces apparently scratched with knives or their eyes gouged out."  Brian Killen (Reuters)  The Washington Times, 3/3/92   Killings Rife in Nagorno-Karabagh, Moldova:  "Journalists in the area reported seeing dozens of corpses, including some   of the civilians, and Azerbaijani officials said Armenians began shooting   at them when they sought to recover the bodies."  Fred Hiatt  The Washington Post, 3/3/92   Serdar Argic
In article <1483500366@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes: > >There are basically three alternatives for Gaza:  4. Annex Gaza to Egypt. 5. Annex Gaza to Israel 6. Maintain the status quo. 7. Partition Gaza into a Jewish and an Arab state.  	I don't necisarily support any of these, I just felt like pointing out there are way more than three solutions.  Next time, maybe we'll see some research into them....  Adam Adam Shostack 				       adam@das.harvard.edu
In <1993Apr19.024949.27846@nysernet.org> astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) writes:   +>The Golan Heights is a serious security problem, and Israel obviously +>will have to keep part of it and give up part of it.  (One should +>remember that the Golan Heights had been part of the area that was to +>be in Britain's Palestine Mandate, slated to become part of the Jewish +>state, until Britain traded it to France for other considerations.  In +>other words, it is an historical accident that it was ever part of +>Syria.)  	The Palestine mandate had no borders before the borders were negotiated and drawn.  The most the Golan may have been is on the list of what territories Britian would have liked to see in the palestine mandate. 	Until the mandates came into existance, there were no defined boundaries between any of the various territories in the region.
In article <horenC5LDuz.5sE@netcom.com>, horen@netcom.com (Jonathan B. Horen) writes: |>  |> While I applaud investing of money in Yehuda, Shomron, v'Chevel-Azza, |> in order to create jobs for their residents, I find it deplorable that |> this has never been an active policy of any Israeli administration |> since 1967, *with regard to their Jewish residents*. Past governments |> found funds to subsidize cheap (read: affordable) housing and the |> requisite infrastructure, but where was the investment for creating |> industry (which would have generated income *and* jobs)?   The investment was there in the form of huge tax breaks, and employer benfits.  You are overlooking the difference that these could have made to any company.  Part of the problem was that few industries were interested in political settling, as much as profit.  |> After 26 years, Yehuda and Shomron remain barren, bereft of even  |> middle-sized industries, and the Jewish settlements are sterile |> "bedroom communities", havens for (in the main) Israelis (both |> secular *and* religious) who work in Tel-Aviv or Jerusalem but |> cannot afford to live in either city or their surrounding suburbs.  True, which leads to the obvious question, should any investment have been made there at the taxpayer's expense.  Obviously, the answer was and still is a resounding no.
Many of you ask me whether I approve of severe human rights violations by Arab States becuse I focus on Israeli human rights violations.  Let's make things clear: My opposition to H.R. violations in Arab States is total and without qualification. No Arab State is and can claim to be democratic. No Arab state claims to be democratic.  I am born in Palestine (now Israel). I have family there. The lack of peace and utter injustice in my home country has affected me all my life. I am concerned by Palestine (Israel) because I want peace to come to it. Peace AND justice.   If anybody has legitimate claims towards Arab states, he should present his claims and ask for support. Jews who left Arab states are fully  entitled to make claims and should do so, if they consider their case has a merit. It is their basic right to return to these countries, if they wish. If not, they should not complain and compare themselves to the Palestinians who have been struggling for the right of return since Israel was established and whose right is upheld by the United Nations quasi totally. If Jews feel discriminated in Arab countries, they have a legitimate claim that any decent person can and should support.   Human rights violations by Arab States don't justify, legitimate nor are the cause for Israeli breaches of international law and human rioghts. Israeli breaches stem from the Zionist concept, which can only be implemented by negating basic rights to Palestinians.   Israeli trights and Palestinian rights are not symmetrical. The first party has a state and the other has none. The first is an occupier and the second the occupied. For any meaningful relationship to emerge, some symmetry must be established. As long as Israelis and Jews don't realise the necessity of a change of perspective towards the Palestinian people and as long as Israelis and Jews don't want to exorcise their own past towards the Palestinians (the Naqba of 1948, etc.) and refuse to acknowledge that the creation of Israel was dependent upon the removal of most Palestinian Arabs, there will be no base for a real trust.  When I read the first time the list of the 383 Arab villages destroyed by the State of Israel in and after 1948, I got a shock.  I hope others will be touched by this discovery and think about the meaning of such massive destruction and destitution.
In article <1483500366@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes: > >There are basically three alternatives for Gaza: > >1.  To throw the Jews to the sea. that is basically to make them leave >   the Middle-East and go back to where they came from (russia, Europe, USA, etc) >2.  To throw the Gazans into the sea, in accordance with Yitzhak Rabin's >     wish and that of many Zionists.   Rabin is the PM. Did he ever indicate such a wish? Try to implement it?    >3.  For Israelis and Palestinians to come to an honorable and fair (I >   don't attempt to say just) settlement, which would allow each person >   to live in dignity in his country in freedom and equality. > >I personnaly opt for the third alternative. How about you folks ? > >Elias  I opt for the third.   Ish
In article <1rd7eo$1a4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Anas Omran writes:  [ANAS] There are many neutral human rights organizations which always report [ANAS] on the situation in the O.T.  But, as most people used to see on TV, the [ANAS] Israelis do not allow them to go deep there in the O.T.  The Israelis  [ANAS] used to arrest and sometimes to kill some of these neutral reporters.   [ANAS] So, this is another kind of terrorism committed by the Jews in Palestine. [ANAS] They do not allow fair and neutral coverage of the situation in  [ANAS] Palestine.  Bring me one case where Israeli Soldiers deliberately killed a "neutral  reporter".  This is another one of your wet dreams.  Unlike many countries, Israel does allow reporters in and out of the O.T.  That is what the problem is. If Israel were a country like China, then  nothing would transpire from what is happening in the O.T. But there seems to be a proliferation of journalists in Israel always trying to show how evil the Israeli monster is. Arab countries don't allow journalists  anywhere, we have yet to hear about the massacres of Kurds, the destruction and annihilation of Hama, the killings of moslem fundamentalists in mosques in Egypt and Algeria etc... Why is it we only get state reports? How accurate are they? Anas, go give a lesson of freedom of speech to your Arab bretheren before telling us what to do.  Tsiel
do not, and i repeat, do not, cross post the following subjects to     soc.culture.iranian:  Re: Jews Supports Serbs Re: Arab Leaders and Bosnia Re: HizbAllah in Bosnia Re: The Stage is Being Set  that's all we need here; more bigotry and hate! believe me, we have already reached our quota for the year. try again next year.
Poor Phill Hallam-Baker.  The tremors are getting worse, and his stratospheric typing skills can no longer keep up.  [spelling flame or real sympathy - only his hairdresser knows for sure]  [Official Mossad policy: we don't stop until we get Disneyland!]
In article <C7Dy0o.5nv@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sadek@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (mohamed.s.sadek) writes:  >         Allow me to mention that it is indeed hounorable and indeed rightious >         to defend oneself, to fight brutal occupation, and to restore the >         freedom of oneself, or one's people. Not just in Islam but also >         in the teachings of all right minded individuals  What is so honorable about placing bombs in passenger airliners, promising to execute Rushdie, killing 1-2 million people in the Iran/Iraq war, murdering tourists and persecuting ethinc Christians in Egypt, massacring Christians in Sudan, harassing Christians in and  barring Jews from Saudi Arabia?  How are paranoid Muslims "righteous in defending themsselves" in these situations?  Who are they even afraid of?  >         It is always amazing yet true that those who suffer from religious >         persecution are usually the ones who practice it once they are able >         to. Your hatered to Islam is filling this net with foam.  Considering that you seem to be posting from central New Jersey, this is an odd comment coming from you.  I dare you to speak your mind in the Middle East in any country besides Israel.
In article <1th4mg$53f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa824@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman) writes:  >    for Arab armies to attack Israel on Yom Kippur?  I suppose it >    is brave to slaughter athletes at the Olympics?  Or maybe you  Dirty Cosar pig has been doing just that for a long, long time.  Source: "Ahmet Cosar said to have been part of 1992 Terror Attack at MacDonalds in Munich," The Fuckersville Reporter, February 7, 1993, p. 1.  "Le Merde, the influential Anatolia daily, based on unidentified sources, claimed last week that Ahmet Cosar, the founder and leader of one faction of the Big Mac Funny Army for the Liberation of Flies from the Spider Webs (BMFALFSW), was among the Argic led terrorists who staged an attack on the toilets at MacDonalds fast food restaurant in Munich...  Le Merde added that up to 1992, Cosar operated out of tygra.michigan.com, but escaped from the country when Bullshit bikers entered the city. It was about this time that a statement issued by BMFALFSW claimed that Mr. Cosar was dead of wounds suffered during a mailbombing by bdb@becker.gts.org, although it is generally believed that the mysterious leader is alive and well and presently is residing alternately in Fuckersville, Bullshitia, and Zuma, Stupidia. The paper also noted that the communist government of Sexual Maniac Hasan B. Mutlu and his F.U.C.K.A.L.L party accepted the Zumabot's underground leader with "open arms" and still providing him with assistance in exchange for pornographic material.  Le Merde further adds that BMFALFSW derives only a small portion of its expenditures from wealthy drug lords who support the cause, with the rest  coming either from other sources or from proceeds of an involvement in child-porn trafficking."  Serdar Argic
bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu  writes: >  >    The comparison of the Palestinian situation with the Holocaust > is insulting and completely false.  Any person making such a rude > and false comparison is either ignorant of the Holocaust, or also > ignorant of the situation in the mideast, or is an anti-semite. >  >    To compare a complicated political situation with the genocide > of 6,000,000 Jews is racist in and of itself. >  First of all I never said the Holocaust. I said before the Holocaust. I'm not ignorant of the Holocaust and know more about Nazi Germany than most people (maybe including you).  	What I resent is ignorant statements that call people names when they disagree with your position. Opposing the atrocities commited by the Israeli governement hardly qualifies as anti-semitism. If you think name calling is a valid form of argument in intellectual circles, you need to get out more often. 	I don't think the suffering of some Jews during WWII justifies the crimes commited by the Israeli government. Any attempt to call Civil liberterians like myself anti-semetic is not appreciated.
In article <1993Apr14.210636.4253@ncsu.edu> hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem) writes:  >Hezbollah and other Lebanese Resistance fighters are skilled at precision >bombing of SLA and Israeli targets.   It's hard to beat a car-bomb with a suicidal driver in getting  right up to the target before blowing up.  Even booby-traps and radio-controlled bombs under cars are pretty efficient killers.   You have a point.     >I find such methods to be far more >restrained and responsible   Is this part of your Islamic value-system?  >than the Israeli method of shelling and bombing >villages with the hope that a Hezbollah member will be killed along with >the civilians murdered.   Had Israeli methods been anything like this, then Iraq wouldn've been nuked long ago, entire Arab towns deported and executions performed by the tens of thousands.  The fact is, though, that Israeli methods aren't even 1/10,000th as evil as those which are common and everyday in Arab states.  >Soldiers are trained to die for their country. Three IDF soldiers >did their duty the other day. These men need not have died if their government >had kept them on Israeli soil.   "Israeli soil"????  Brad/Ali!  Just wait until the Ayatollah's thought-police get wind of this.  It's all "Holy Muslim Soil (tm)". Have you forgotten?  May Allah have mercy on you now.  >Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
In article <C6z3JD.ApB@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes: >(Mohammed Elabdellaoui) writes: >> >>Muslims helping the Nazis???  Where on earth do you come up with such >>accuusation??  Do you have proofs??  If not, you should publically apologize >>for such a statement.  Last time I heard, the nazis prided themselves in >>needing no body to carry their politics and ideologies.  And if your statment >>were true, don't you think Israel would of used it to point to what a Muslim >>neighbor (PALESTINE) could do to them if they allowed it to be?  The jewish >>lobby and power is very strong, and if what you said is true, we would of >>heard it from them before you could come up with it. >>And you dare say that you are taking no sides!! > >My reference is a 4 page essay in our local Star Tribute newspaper >putting the whole conflict in perspective. I will readily admit >that I am no authority in this area; however, other posteers  >asserted that *some* Muslims did join hands with Croats and >Nazis in persecuting Serbs. In any case, past actions do not >in any way validate or legitimize what is happending there now. > >I sincerely do apologize to the extent the author of the essay >was wrong in making the assertion he made.  > >Maybe, some student of history may put this in perspective. > >Satya Prabhakar > >--  Thank you very much for clarifying your position and source.  Apologies  are accepted in good faith.  This absolutely was no attempt to bring you to your knees, It is merely a suggestion to really check and re-sheck your sources before throwing a flame into the net.  Thanx again
(Please note followup) In <1993Apr27.012045.8543@Virginia.EDU> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:  >You guys are funny. It's funny to see people lose control and >start the name calling when they realize they have no point.  Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is name-calling of the lowest kind. Please don't be disingenuous.  >They [civil libertarians] would support the >Jews against the Nazis or anyone else who tries to oppress them >and they would support the Arabs against the Israelis and any >other such oppressive regimes (Iraq etc.)   Do civil libertarians make no distinction between the Nazis and Israel?  Would you say that the Iraqis are like the Nazis?  If you do not make such distinctions, then all injustices are equally evil, and the world is a completely evil place.  In that case, we may as well give up right now.
In article <1993Apr5.183555.20163@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>   hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes: >  > In article <4805@bimacs.BITNET>, ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich)   writes: > |>  > |> Hassan and some other seemed not to be a ware that Jews celebrating   on > |> these days Thje Passover holliday the holidy of going a way from the > |> Nile. > |> So if one let his imagination freely work it seemed beter to write > |> that the Zionist drean is "from the misisipi to the Nile ". >  > the question is by going East or West from the misisipi. on either   choice > you would loose Palestine or Broklyn, N.Y. >  > I thought you're gonna say fromn misisipi back to the misisipi ! >  Nonononnononono....its "From the Nile to the Nile.....the Long way!" ;-)
I think the Israeli press might be a tad bit biased in reporting the events. I doubt the Propaganda machine of Goering reported accurately on what was happening in Germany. It is interesting that you are basing the truth on Israeli propaganda.
I  must  finally  admit the total truth that is central to the core of my being.     I  am  a  homosexual.   Not  just  a  normal,  run-of-the-mill homosexual,  but  a  rabid homosexual Zionist.  I hide behind the facade  of  pro-Israel  rhetoric so as to deflect suspicion of my true  motive:  the exchange of romantic dialogue with Nick Steel, and  our  frequent  fudge-packing   adventures,  which   we  have endeavored  to maintain at a discreet level.  Of course, the need for discretion has been obviated by my own admission here.     The  truth  is  that  I  could  no longer hold this saccharine secret  any  longer.   I love  you,  Nick,  and  my  love for you surpasses  that  which  I  hold  for Eretz Yisrael, may she stand forever, as our love has, and as your erection insinuating itself into my kosher rectum always will.
First this man promotes the dissolution of the Jews through an intermarriage process, and then says that it will be just a bunch of 'fundamentalist' Jews who will object.  This clown even called for 'buying' the dissolution of the Jewish people.     Does this idiot mean to suggest that any Jew who objects to an imibicilic notion like this is fundamentalist?  Or does he simply mean to insult the orthodox by using the word 'fundamentalist?'     I am not orthodox.  I am not fundamentalist.  I would desire a genuine peace in the region more than this pinhead  Davidsson can ever understand.  But when he shows his willingness to dismiss an entire culture, he proves that the only thing more brain-boggling than his stupidity is his willingness to display his stupidity in  this newsgroup.
Before getting excited and implying that I am posting fabrications, I would suggest the readers to consult the newspaper in question.   Tahnks,
Subject: Re: Europe vs. Muslim Bosnians From: Satya Prabhakar, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 15:50:31 GMT In article <C6x81M.EJF@news.cis.umn.edu> Satya Prabhakar, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu writes: >(mohamed.s.sadek) writes: >> >>I like what Mr. Joseph Biden had to say yesterday 5/11/93 in the senate. >> >>Condemening the european lack of action and lack of support to us plans  >>and calling that "moral rape". >> >>He went on to say that the reason for that is "out right religious BIGOTRY" > >Actually, this strife in Yugoslavia goes back a long way. Bosinan Muslims, >in collaboration with the Nazis, did to Serbians after the first world >war what Serbs are doing to Muslims now.  This kind of racialist generalization is utterly inappropriate.  SOME Bosnian Muslims cooperated with the Nazis in World War 2.  Other Bosnian Muslims risked their lifes to hide Jews from the Nazis and Ustashe, and those Jews who survived the war remember that.  In fact the Jewish leader in Sarajevo has remained there saying he wants to repay the debt to the Bosnian Muslims that saved so many Jewish lives in WW2.  Similarly, SOME Serbs are "doing" to Muslims now. This is a group of serial-killers, rapists, and thieves who have control of the vast Yugoslav army arsenal.  Many other Serbs oppose these atrocities.  As one of Serbian heritage who condemns emphatically the genocide being carried out against Muslims by both HVO and Mladic forces, I condemn your generalization about Bosnian Muslims and about Serbs.    This is not a fresh case of >ethnic cleansing but just another chapter in the continuing saga >of intense mutual hatred, destruction,...   Every place on earth is the scene of a saga of mutual hatred and destruction.  The holocaust was not a "fresh case."  It was another chapter in a 900 year history of attacks on Jews in Europe.  That didn't make it acceptable. and Balkan history does not make the genocide against Bosnian Muslims acceptable.  Not taking sides in this >perpetual war does not amount to religious bigotry.  Standing by and allowing well-armed criminals to slaughter Bosnian Muslim civilians, while enforcing an arms embargo against the Bosnian Muslims is not only religious bigotry it is direct complicity in mass-murder.    It could just >be helplessness with regards to bringing peace to a region that does >not even know the meaning of the word.  You tell us a region on earth that does have a long history of war.  NATO is the largest military "police force" in the world.  It was not "helpless."  It could have stopped the carnage a year ago.     > >Satya Prabhakar  Regards,  Mike.
5 Apr 93   MOSCOW (UPI) --         ...         ``It's horrible. People are trying to get their wives and children out, men are leaving their defense positions, it's total anarchy,'' said Mekhman Aliyev, a spokesman for the Azerbaijani president.          Aliyev said 210 people -- three-quarters of them civilians, the rest government soldiers -- had been killed and 200 wounded in the assault by Armenian fighters.    Serdar Argic
In article <C66IqC.99K.1@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed) writes:  >organization by trying to distribute Nazi propaganda.  Furthermore, >you attempt to rationalize this through crude stereotyping by pointing  >to the WTC bombing, in which Arab-Americans had no involvement.  	Huh?  Mohamed Salimeh was perhaps a Korean?  How do you claim arab-americans had no involvement in the WTC bombing?  	Ok, his involvement is alleged by the FBI, which doesn't seem to reliable these days.  But honestly, there is a pile of evidence pointing to them, and it seems those 5 were involved.  	This does not mean that all arab-americans were involved, nor should they be blamed for it, but denying that there were some arab-americans involved sounds sorta silly to me.  Adam Adam Shostack 				       adam@das.harvard.edu