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lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:  >>	Player:		Points:		+/-	Subtraction: >>	-------		-------		----	------------ >>	Lemieux		  157		 53	  -104 >>	LaFontaine 	  145		 13	  -132 >>	Oates 		  141		 12	  -129 >>	Yzerman		  138		 33	  -105 >>	Selanne		  137		  8	  -129  >This is wrong. Among Lemieux's 157 points, we do NOT know how many >are power play points. We may be able to find out how many PP goal he >scored, but not how many PP assist he accumulated. We also don't know >the # times he was on the ice but not credited on the goals the Pens  >scored.
It is really annoying to see all of these predictions on the Net.  Who really cares who you think will win?  Please stop with the predictions, we all know the Caps are going to win the Cup, so let it go at that.
In article <C5J59C.GED@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> galvint@cs.nps.navy.mil (thomas galvin) writes: >In article <93105.052120RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes: >>In article <1993Apr14.015415.10176@mprgate.mpr.ca>, tasallot@galaxy.mpr.ca >>(Mathew Tasalloti) says: >>>chances this year), but it seems to me like Washington is the ONLY >>>team that can stop the Penguins from winning their next Stanley Cup. >> >>  Really? I think both the Islanders and Devils would have a better chance >>at the Penguins than the Capitals, IMO. > >Really?  What makes you think the Islanders have a better shot?  They >couldn't even beat the Whalers in two games!  Yes, but as has been mentioned many times before, the Islanders play at the talent level of their opponent.  Since Hartford is pitiful, the Islanders played pitiful.  Since Pittsburgh is great, the Isles will most likely play great.  This is most likely due to inexperience and very poor shooting.  To Greg: yes, I have noticed that the Islanders couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with the puck if they were two feet in front of it.  Does anyone have shooting percentages?  I don't know if that would help, since they often miss the net completely, but it might shed some light on the subject.  And, my playoff pool is running!!!  Exact rules to be posted tomorrow, but don't hesitate to send in picks!!!  --     Keith Keller				LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!! 						LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!! 	kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu		IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!
Rex Wang (wangr@vccsouth22.its.rpi.edu) spews forth stupidly: > 	Are people here stupid or what??? It is a tie breaker, of cause they > have to have the same record. How can people be sooooo stuppid to put win as > first in the list for tie breaker??? If it is a tie breaker, how can there be > different record???? Man, I thought people in this net are good with hockey. > I might not be great in Math, but tell me how can two teams ahve the same > points with different record??? Man...retard!!!!!! Can't believe people > actually put win as first in a tie breaker......  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me that you don't actually ATTEND Rensselaer, and that you just work for ITS. Or that this was tounge-in-cheek.  Does this mean that I should be cutting off my alumni contributions, or  increasing them?
In <tvartiai.734823058@vipunen.hut.fi> tvartiai@vipunen.hut.fi (Tommi Vartiainen) writes:  >According to the inside information, Alpo Suhonen won't be the next headcoach >of Jokerit. It's pretty sure that Boris Majorov will continue, although owner >of the team previously said that he will chance the coach.  >Tommi Wrong information. They just announced that Suhonen has made a deal with  Jokerit.
In <rauser.734062608@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard "The Racist" Rauser) writes:  [all kinds of unacceptably racist drivel deleted]  And after that we find the man has absolutely nothing to say.  Richard J. Rauser, you are a dishonourable little man.  caustically, when necessary,  rm
How did the Leafs turn it around???    I couldn't get the Leaf games on the weekend in CA.  Did the Leaf defense wise up overnight? Did the Leafs get in the slot or  was it just "fluke" goals in a goalie duel?  Did the Wings turn off the jets or muscle?   What gives here?  I caught game 1 on satellite.  I figured my Leafs were washed. This is a _major_ turnaround.   Very few predicted this.  How, how, how did it happen?     Wing and Leaf perspectives welcomed!
-=> Quoting The Logistician to All <=-      TL> I am in need of all of the players wearing #77 in the NHL.  I know now  TL> only of one, Ray Borque for the Bruins.  Any help would be greatly  TL> appreciated.   TL> Thanx.          Hi there Logistician, is not Paul Coffey wearing       # 77 for the Detroit Red Wings?       That is the only other one (besides Borque) that I can think of       hope it helps.         Steve
In article <1r8tgh$lfi@hsdndev.harvard.edu> nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219) writes: > >Harry and his buttkisser Milbury will never admit that they screwed up >in a major way when they brought in one of the dumbest people in the >business,Brian Sutter. Sutter's playoff record as the head coach in St.Louis >speaks for itself. The Blues really have a chance to advance to the >second round this year... >  Grant Fuhr has done this to a lot better coaches than Brian Sutter...
In article <1993Apr26.023650.16749@spang.Camosun.BC.CA>, ua256@freenet.Victoria.BC.CA (Tom Moffat) says: > >If the Oilers move to Hamilton what division will they play in .  And won't they have to change their name to the "Steelers" or something. The only significant deposits of oil around Hamilton are those caused by the tire fire a  few years back.
John Girash writes... >For all those Red Wings fans in Boston, I thought I'd letcha know that (being >desperate for news on the game) I tried to get WJR (AM 760) on my Walkman -- >and SUCCEEDED!  It was at night (about 10pm) & reception got better as it got  You can get WJR a LONG way away.  The problem is that, because of those well known and beloved "contractual obligations", WJR will be doing Tiger baseball instead of the Wings playoff games for probably half the games the Wings could play.  For this series, I know tonight's game and I believe games 5 and 6 (if necessay) will be bumped.  Ron
>        Goodbye Minnesota,...you never earned the right to have an NHL  >franchise in the first place! >        Hope you enjoy your Twin city wide mania for HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY >(hey, by the way my old pee wee team is having a reunion in Regina, care  >to come up and film the event?) >        Yee haa Golden Gophers >Whatta weird town!!!!!  What's with you stupid dorks from the "Western Business School"???!!!  First there was that Cary asshole, and now you.  Don't you have anything better to do instead of being obnoxious, antagonistic little shits over the network???  Why don't you just take a hike, and stop embarrasing yourself, your school, and Canada!
In article <1993Apr26.125444.5073@vax.cns.muskingum.edu>, jbrown@vax.cns.muskingum.edu wrote: >  > Belfour played well, but I hardly saw any offense from any hawk.  What I want > to know is where was Roenick.    As far as I can tell, he was right next to Bassen!  Don't you guys love it when people like me come out of the woodwork...8^)
THIS IS WHAT I CAME UP WITH USING THE FINAL REGULAR SEASON STATS FOR THE 92/93, WHICH YOU CAN FIND IN THE APRIL 22, 1993 EDITION OF THE USA TODAY! TRY IT OUT AND SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.....   1. ADAM OATES           C    BRUINS     145 PTS  2. TEEMU SELANNE       RW    JETS       136 PTS  3. ALEXANDER MOGILNY   RW    SABRES     131 PTS  4. PAVEL BURE          RW    CANUCKS    116 PTS  5. VINCENT DAMPHOUSSE  LW    CANADIANS  106 PTS  6. DAVE ANDREYCHUK     LW    MAPLELEAFS 104 PTS  7. PHIL HOUSLEY        RD    JETS       103 PTS  8. PAUL COFFEY         RD    REDWINGS    94 PTS  9. SERGEI FEDOROV       C    REDWINGS    94 PTS 10. ANDY MOOG            G    BRUINS      86 PTS 11. AL INFRATE          RD    CAPITIALS   82 PTS 12. PATRICK ROY          G    CANADIANS   76 PTS 13. AL MACINNIS         LD    FLAMES      60 PTS 14. DENNIS SAVARD        C    CANADIANS   59 PTS 15. CALLE JOHANSSON     LD    CAPITALS    50 PTS 16. YURI KHMYLEV        LW    SABRES      41 PTS 17. RICHARD SMEHLIK     LD    SABRES      36 PTS ------------------------------------------------     TOTAL POINTS                        1519 PTS
Like many others I too was watching the Caps/Isles game when the went to the baseball game.  I too was pissed.  How could they interupt such an important game.  I understand about contracts, but you would think they would have a clause in the contract concerning important games! Anyway,  us BLUES (and Hawks) fans got shafted worse!  While everyone in the U.S. and watched the game on ABC.  However those of us who live in the central Illinois area were subjected to watching the Arthritus(?) Telethon.  The area that was most affected by the telecast did not get to see the game except through HAWK VISION.  This game, had it been televised, would have been the first home Hawks game shown in the area since 1980.  This television BULL*&%$ has got to stop.  We are not only being deprived of seeing games, due to skyrocketing ticket prices, but we are also being deprived of watching them on TV.  PEACE,  HAMMER
In article <1993Apr24.181145.17567@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes: > >* Roger Neilson is not property ... among other rumours, he's now >the #1 candidate to coach the Flyers, and will bring along Colin >Campbell as his assistant. >  This would be dumb move of the nineties...Lindros is big and strong... but why give him a ball and chain on one leg and an anchor on the other to drag along.  >* Compuware is actively scouting Phoenix for a new team in 94-95 [hey, >Nick and Jimmy ... buy the Devils and fix them here, please! --- gld]. >  Not if Pocklington gets there first! (-...actually, if Pocklington doesn't get a better deal, he would probably go to Hamilton...taking the team out of Canada would get the whole country mad at him... taking the team to Hamilton wouldn't get anybody mad at him that  isn't mad at him already...and would make him a lot of friends in Southern Ontario...so many that the whining of the stupid politicians in Edmonton and the fickle spoiled fans wouldn't be noticed at all. Edmonton would wallow in anonymnity.
In article <9491@blue.cis.pitt.edu> shah@pitt.edu (Ravindra S Shah) writes: > >Exactly.  That is my biggest complaint about the coverage so far. >Follow that damn puck! >  If ESPN/ABC is going to stick with one-sided Pens-Devils series(and it looks like they will continue with it on Thursday night), I'd rather watch pretty women in the stands than non-action on the ice where a slow,aging NJ team being taken out to lunch by a dynamic Pens squad.
On 20-Apr-93 in Don Cherry - Coach's Corner.. user Allan Sullivan@cs.UAlber writes: >Next, a clip was shown from an earlier episode, in which Don was >proclaiming Doug Gilmour to be the best player, not only in >the NHL, but in the world. What about players like Lemieux? >Don said that Gilmour was the best PLAYER, not "Designated point getter". >Its not like baseball, where you have a "designatted hitter" who >can score runs but can't play defense. Gilmour is a good two way player.  This clip was shown on local news in Pittsburgh last night (KDKA), complete with animated sarcasm by the sportscaster.  It's the second time Cherry has been shown on local Pittsburgh news in the last couple of weeks.  Both times he was blasting Lemieux.   ====================================================================     Jim Murawski     Sr. Software Engineer               (412) 268-2650  [office]     Administrative Computing and        (412) 268-6868  [fax]          Information Services           jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu     Carnegie Mellon University          Office: UCC 155     4910 Forbes Avenue     Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890      "Le Mieux!  Le Magnifique!  Soixante Six!  Claude...NON!"
In messge 51890 on Mon Apr 19 15:46:40 1993, greanias@texas.mitre.org (Steve Greanias) wrote:  >        I do not have cable and on the nights the Caps don't  >play, I would like to tune in other games.  Does anyone have a  >list of the radio stations which broadcast the games for the NHL >teams?  Here are the ones I can remember offhand:       KDKA    1020 AM   Pittsburgh Penguins      WABC     770 AM   New Jersey Devils      WBBM     780 AM   Chicago Blackhawks      WJM (?)  720 AM   Detroit Redwings      KMOX    1120 AM   St. Louis Blues  Are the Flyers on 1210? That's all I can think of.
sclark@epas.utoronto.ca (Susan Clark) writes: > I'm looking to answer a bit of trivia.  What hockeplayers have > appeared on major talk shows on TV [...examples deleted...] > I'm pretty sure I've seen Gretzky and Lemieux, but I was > wondering if there were any others...  Michael J. Fox was on Letterman about a year ago (or two) during the  playoffs as a celebrity hockey player for the Bruins.  While he's not exactly a NHLer he did mention that the Bruins wanted to break Ulfie's legs (or something like that) in response to the Neely incident.  It was quite amusing, as one of the few Letterman viewers who actually knew what he was talking about.  Anybody know who the Pens celebrity hockey player is?  Michael Douglas (aka Michael Keaton)?
In article <1993Apr20.152107.19114@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:  >There are several problems with the way the game is being presented to the >fans.  I feel that geographical names would enhance regional loyalties >more than names honouring personages.  I think a compromise would work; namely honouring personages in  Conference names, and using geographical references in the divisional  names.  Although I still do not think the move will draw fans to the game; IMO it's a cosmetic change that Bettman and the owners _hope_  will have an effect.  And it doesn't say much for the mentality of  anybody it works on, either.    >Another thing that bothers me is the points system.  Percentages, as used in >the other major sports are clearly more informative.  When I look at the >NHL standings the first thing I have to do is make a quick calculation to >account for games in hand (which is almost always the case).  Some will >object to percentages, claiming perhaps, that it is an "Americanization" >of the sport  Surprise, I agree totally.  The points system is fine, if everybody at all times has played the same number of games.  Since this is almost never the case, winning percentage is the way to go.  I don't particularly care if it  is an "American" thing either, if it works.
O.K., only one series is done.  But I need to post something.  By the way, the Islanders just scored.   Rank Team Name                  Points   Final 4   1. roland_behunin                  5   CAL-6 QUE-7 QUE-7    2. Milton_Keynes_Kings             0   DET-6 PIT-5 PIT-5       Barfly                          0   TOR-6 BOS-7 TOR-6       Dean's                          0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-7       Oz                              0   LAK-6 BOS-6 LAK-6       Garry                           0   TOR-6 BOS-6 BOS-4       Brian_Bergman                   0   DET-6 PIT-6 DET-6       Mopar_Muscle_Men                0   CHI-5 PIT-6 PIT-5       BH's_Last_Place_Picks           0   CHI-5 PIT-6 PIT-5       Dave_Wessels                    0   VAN-7 PIT-6 PIT-5       Sam_&_His_Dogs                  0   DET-6 PIT-5 PIT-5       Ye_Ding                         0   DET-6 PIT-5 PIT-6       Tampere_Stars                   0   CHI-6 PIT-6 PIT-6       The_Mighty_Hedgehogs_Of_Myllyp  0   CHI-6 BOS-6 BOS-6       Homesick_Hawaiian               0   VAN-7 PIT-6 PIT-5       Killer_Kings                    0   CHI-6 WAS-6 CHI-6       Puggy_Greybeards                0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-5       Ottawa_Bearcats                 0   TOR-5 PIT-6 TOR-6       Andrew_Kirk                     0   TOR-6 PIT-6 PIT-5       Muller_n_Walker                 0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-6       Excalibur                       0   DET-6 PIT-4 PIT-6       Rednecks_from_Hockey_Hell       0   DET-7 BOS-5 BOS-5       The_@$%@#$%_Rangers_of_1940     0   CHI-6 PIT-7 PIT-6       Jeff_Phelps                     0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-5       Arctic_Circles                  0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-4       Sludge                          0   DET-6 PIT-6 DET-6       The_Logistician                 0   DET-6 PIT-6 DET-7       Hillside_Raiders                0   CHI-6 BOS-6 BOS-7      Danielle                        0   CHI-5 QUE-7 QUE-7      Stanias_Stars                   0   CHI-6 BOS-7 BOS-6      BloodHook                       0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-5      Gilles_Carmel                   0   CHI-6 PIT-7 PIT-7      Pasi_Fr{nti                     0   LAK-7 PIT-5 PIT-6      Evan_Pritchard                  0   VAN-6 PIT-6 PIT-5      Skriko_Wolves                   0   DET-7 PIT-5 PIT-5      Rangers_Blow                    0   CAL-7 PIT-6 PIT-4      Sean                            0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-6      Schott_Shooters                 0   CHI-6 PIT-5 PIT-5      Gary_Shiff                      0   TOR-4 PIT-6 PIT-4      Mike_Burger                     0   DET-7 PIT-6 DET-7      Darse                           0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-6
In article <1993Apr22.105352.18235@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> yecx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes: >Is it just me or is the camera work on some of these games really sad??  I >can't remember how many times during the Penguins-Devils game they showed some >guy (without the puck) being checked in the corner while the puck was being >fired on goal.  In fact, I think they even missed one goal completely because >they were showing two guys holding each other in the corner. > >Now the last time I watched a football game, they didn't show the lineman going >at it while the running back turned the corner for a touchdown . . . .  > >Is it just me??	 > >Greg >  ESPN has been trying various things to get away from the follow-the-puck concept of televising hockey games.  One of the main problems with hockey is that it is very difficult to show everything that is going on -- more happens away from the puck than in any other sport except maybe football and they can do iso's on football players to be shown between plays.  The problem of course is that sometimes you get something worthwhile, other times you get burned.
Believe it or not, we DO have phone books, but the current information does not include an area code for Edmonton Alberta.  I would not be so hostile towards others for asking simple questions...  "I would rather appear stupid than open my moutha nd remove all doubt." 							-Mark Twain  --  	"If you assult someone you get 5 years--In hockey, 5 minutes. 			Is this a great sport or what?!"
In article <0fq0VIC00WB8RQ019D@andrew.cmu.edu> ch3g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chad Nicholas Hunter) writes: >I live in Pittsburgh (yes i'm a pens fan) where hockey gets a lot >of coverage.  i can only imagine how a caps fan residing in Texas >must feel.  	Or a Caps fan residing in Atlanta, where they DONT EVEN TELL THE F&@(*@CKING PLAYOFF SCORES ON THE NEWS!!!!!
Bufflo Sabres has just finished their great four wins over Boston. All Sabres players contribute to those great wins but those talent players including Mogily, Fuhr, Kemhlev and Lafontin impressed me most. Their  skills showed the art of sport, not like the garbage speech from the coach's corner.
You're right ... I'm sick of seeing all those white guys on skates myself ... the Vancouver Canucks should be half women, and overall  one-third Oriental.    (-; (-; (-; (-; (-; (-;   And I'll gladly volunteer myself for the overage draft. (-;  gld
I am sure some bashers of Pens fans are pretty confused about the lack of any kind of posts about the recent Pens massacre of the Devils. Actually, I am  bit puzzled too and a bit relieved. However, I am going to put an end to non-PIttsburghers' relief with a bit of praise for the Pens. Man, they are killing those Devils worse than I thought. Jagr just showed you why he is much better than his regular season stats. He is also a lot fo fun to watch in the playoffs. Bowman should let JAgr have a lot of fun in the next couple of games since the Pens are going to beat the pulp out of Jersey anyway. I was very disappointed not to see the Islanders lose the final regular season game.          PENS RULE!!!
I am in need of all of the players wearing #77 in the NHL.  I know now only of one, Ray Borque for the Bruins.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanx.
In article <1993Apr5.194440.18546@ists.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes: >In article <burke.1-290393150052@burkemac.oshag.nd.edu> burke.1@nd.edu (R. P. Burke) writes: >>When talking about hockey broadcasters, let's give a moment of silence to >>remember the St. Louis Blues' great, Dan Kelly. (Many of you may have heard >>him in the late 60s and early 70s on CBS.) He used to do Hockey Night In >>Canada intermissions, with another recently deceased great, Danny Gallivan >>of the Canadiens. >  I *loved* Dan Kelly!  He was on USA when I first got hooked on Hockey back in 1980 or so.  No, he wasn't always spot on top of the play, and he wasn't overly cute, but those pipes!  That lusty, barrel chested, voice! No pipsqueak was he (unlike some fellas we know!)  I rode into hockey mania on the coattails of Gretzky and the Boys on the Bus.  My first Finals saw the Islanders sweep them.  But I'll never forget the night, a year later, when the Oilers closed it out at home in the pandemonium, the smoke from a million sparklers, the long empty-net goal near the end, and Dan Kelly letting the crowd's reaction tell the story for a few long seconds, then that voice barking through the din "Dave Lumley ... sews it up for Edmonton!"  It sounds stupid, but that early (for me) hockey memory will always bring a thrill.  Since then I've grown a lot more jaded about the game, but I was really saddened by Dan Kelly's passing.  He was one of the good guys.
I knew, despite the lack of a full game telecast last week, it was still too much hockey for Atlanta. Atlanta's ABC has declined to pick up any playoff games till May9. And even when they show the games on MAy9 and May16, they will continue to skip the first half hour of the telecast. I know this is still a better situation compared to rest of Georgia, Alabama, etc., but it is still pretty annoying. At least in PIttsburgh, we had a network preemptionchannel which showed all netwoork shows prempted by the local affiliate.   I asked them what their problem was. I told them that a local 1.9 rating was not that bad considering it was the first NHL game shown after a long time without much promotion. Besides, their syndicated programming in the afternoon is usually low rated. So what did they have to lose by showing NHL playoffs. She told me that they had contractual obligations. I asked her if golf was shown oin ABC, would contractual obligations come in the way. And how come contractual obligations didn't come in the way of last week's telecast? She then couldn't give me a coherent answer.   Also, I added that Atlanta had one of the highest neutral site game attendances and that the demographics were good. I think ABC and other networks should begin to tie their high rated programs like Roseanne in with  thier sports programming. I hope that everyone in Atlanta who reads this bboard calls WSB 2 and complain bitterlyt about this. Tell them you will stop watching their news telecasts since they seem to be very unprofessional in handling this situation.
(Detroit, April 19)  In a development that shocked most knowledgable observers, the Detroit Redwings scored no less than six goals against the best goaltender in the world en route to a 6-3 win over the best team in the NHL, the Toronto Maple Leafs.   The Leafs could not be faulted, as they completely dominated the inferior Detroit squad and clearly deserved to win. Only the biased officiating of Andy Van Hellemond and the idiots that insisted upon throwing an octopus on the ice at every stoppage in an obvious attempt to distract the superior  visiting side prevented an all-out massacre of the Wings by the league's best  team.          							    Alan