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After watching the Pengiuns all year (and as many other teams as possible), I've really noticed an increase in Tom Barasso's cheap shots this year (and not noticed a corrsponding increase with other goaltenders). I've also noticed that he usually gets away with it. Just as examples last night, I noticed him elbowing Scott Stevens in the head, which basically started the whole shoving match that got Stevens (Scott) and Tocchet 2 minute minors. He also KICKED John McLean. Of course he wasn't called for that. Isn't kicking an automatic match penalty and 10 game suspension? I think Glenn Anderson got one a few years ago for kicking Gaetan Duchesne in the chest. There's no doubt in my mind that Barasso is the dirtiest golatender since Hextall. He's also very good.  How about that Tocchet head-butt? Is there an automatic susppension that goes along with a (non-kicking) match penalty? I can't remember anymore.
In article <C63tEF.63C@cs.dal.ca>, reiniger@ug.cs.dal.ca (Darren Reiniger) says: > > I'd like to echo these sentiments.  This is the worst coverage I can > ever remember seeing on CBC.  As soon as the game ends, I can count to 30, > and by that time, they've signed off the air.  No post game interviews, > no updating of late scores, nothin'.  TSN is really putting CBC to > shame.  I only hope the later round coverage improves, I mean, who > really wants to see CBC PrimeTime News instead of hockey. > > My $.02, >  Darren  This was a concession to Mansbridge and CBC News, they argued that if you're going to play  havoc with the schedule, you should  at least make sure that Prime Time is aired as soon as possible. News got a commitment that the post-game show would be scrapped and that the network would go to PTN within one minute or so of the game  ending.  As for the earlier comments about CBC being "Ontariocentric" frankly the no doubleheader decison goes both ways, people in the West cant  see the Leafs  and people in Central Canada can't see the Jets game. The reason for the decision was CBC's feeling they couldn't sell advertising for six hours of hockey in  one night.   As for who wants to see news over hockey, a lot of people. CBC always gets plenty of complaints about juggling the news schedule.
In <lrw509f@rpi.edu> wangr@vccsouth22.its.rpi.edu ( Rex Wang ) writes:  >I might not be great in Math, but tell me how can two teams ahve the same points >with different record??? Man...retard!!!!!! Can't believe people actually put >win as first in a tie breaker......  Well I don't see any smileys here.  I am trying to figure out if the poster is a dog or a wordprocessor.  Couldn't be neither.  Both are smarter than this.  "I might not be great in Math"   --
So what's the deal with Bill Wirtz? Apparently, the Blackhawks - St. Louis game was a standing room only sell out as usual, but the Hawks reported the attendace as 16,199. Gee, I wonder if Wirtz is planning to use this as justification for continuing to keep home games off of TV? What a schmuck.  In other TV news, the Penguins announced yesterday that they will have 3 fewer broadcast TV games, and will have 22(!) games on some sort of subscription / pay-per-view system. Yuck.
In article <cfoy0MW00Uh_41JndV@andrew.cmu.edu> Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >Thorne is good and I've always been a fan of Clement (but I miss >Mike Emrick!).  My boyfriend, who is not a hockey fan, even looked up >at one point and said, "These guys are pretty good announcers."  (This >is the same guy who said that Rick Tocchet looks like Charles Bronson...:)  Did your boyfriend comment on the fact that Clement looks like a walking ad for Brillo pad hair replacement therapy? The guy's just a stuffed shirt who thinks he's the greatest hockey analyst since Howie Meeker (for gosh sakes). I'll take Schoenie any day.  George
: In article <1993Apr21.131501@staff.dccs.upenn.edu> filinuk@staff.dccs.upenn.edu (Geoff Filinuk) writes: : > : >	On Tuesday, when it was raining in Chicago, ESPN provided  : >bonus hockey coverage.  Now it seems as though some fans are ticked off : >that the NY-Wash OT was replaced with the Angels-?? game.  People must : >realize that there are more baseball fans instead of hockey fans in the U.S   : >The baseball game was scheduled to air and advertisers money was paid so : >they can't skip the baseball game.  Why don't you people CHILL OUT : >and enjoy whatever coverage you can get.  Well, partly because I, as an ardent fan of both sports, would rather see Game 3 of the NHL playoffs than Game 3 of 162 of the MLB season (even if the bb game involves the Red Sox).	  ESPN may have had contractual obligations. I understand that part. But it's a bit inaccurate to call us "selfish" just because we want to watch the watch the game we love. Am I, as a baseball fan, "selfish" when I get pissed a CBS for showing approximately one game per month? I don't think so.  While, ESPN may have contractual obligations, we, as their consumers, have a right to voice our displeasure with how they are serving us. There's certainly nothing wrong with that.
In <1993Apr16.195754.5476@ousrvr.oulu.fi> mep@phoenix.oulu.fi (Marko Poutiainen) writes:  >: FINLAND:   >:  >: D-Jyrki Lumme.......20 >: D-Teppo Numminen....20 >: D-Peter Ahola.......13 >:  >Well well, they don't like our defenders (mainly Lumme and Numminen)...  About 25 is correct for Numminen and Lumme.   >: R-Teemu Selanne.....27 >:  >Compared to Kurri, Selanne's points are too high, lets make it 25 or 26.  No, Kurri's points are too low. 27 for Kurri and 28 for Sel{nne.  >: well in the Canada Cup and World Championships largely due to the efforts of >: Markus Ketterer (the goalie), 3-4 or the players listed above and luck. There's >: presumably a lot of decent players in Finland that wouldn't be superstars at >: the highest level but still valuable role players, however. My guess would be >: that the Finnish Canada Cup team would be a .500 team in the NHL.  >Wow, now, it looks like you don't like our players? What about guys like: >Nieminen, Jutila, Riihijarvi, Varvio, Laukkanen, Makela, Keskinen and (even >if he is aging) Ruotsalainen? The main difference between finnish and North- >American players is, that our players tend to be better in the larger rink. >The Canadian defenders are usually slower that defenders in Europe.  >And I think that there was more in our success than Ketterer and luck (though >they helped). I think that the main reason was, that the team worked well >together.   That's true. Game is so different here in Europe compared to NHL. North-ame- ricans are better in small rinks and europeans in large rinks. An average european player from Sweden, Finland, Russian or Tsech/Slovakia is a better  skater and  puckhandler than his NHL colleague. Especially defenders in NHL are mainly slow and clumsy. Sel{nne has also said that in the Finnish Sm-league game is more based on skill than in NHL. In Finland he couldn't get so many  breakaways because defenders here are an average much better skaters than in NHL. Also Alpo Suhonen said that in NHL Sel{nne's speed accentuates because of clumsy defensemen.  I have to admit that the best players come from Canada, but those regulars aren't as skilful as regulars in the best european leagues. Also top europeans are in the same level as the best north-americans.(except Lemieux is in the class of his own).
>And of course, Mike Ramsey was (at one time) the captain in Buffalo prior to >being traded to Pittsburgh.  Currently, the Penguins have 3 former captains >and 1 real captain (Lemieux) playing for them.  They rotate the A's during the >season (and even the C while Mario was out).  Even Troy Loney has worn the C >for the Pens.  I had heard(perhaps incorrectly) that while Lemieux was out, noone wore a C on their jersey.  The As took turns doing captain duties(whatever they are).  Scott... scott.marks@launchpad.unc.edu scott.marks@launchpad.unc.edu
In <120365@netnews.upenn.edu> kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller) writes:  >>  >>7.   Carol Alt, Head Coach In 93-94?  >I wish!  She can be *my* head coach any time!!!!  (Sorry Ali!  Back to >real hockey.)  Hmmmmmm. I think I'll let everyone make there own comment on this one.   >>THE BAD >>  >>Alexei Kovalev. >>What did the Rangers think when they signed him? Did they think he >>was another Domi?  Just let him play! And not on a 4th line.  Better >>that he stays in the minors and gets ice-time ALL the time.  >Whose "bad"?  It has been Neilson and Smith's decision to play him there, >if that's what you mean, then that's bad.  But Kovalev himself is a very >good player.  You're right, if he weren't stranded on the fourth line >maybe he'd produce.  Sound familiar?  Darren Turcotte?  Neilson and Smith are bad. Kovalev is magical.
Being a a BLUES fan I don't get to see much else from around the league with the exception of Hockey Night on ESPN.  I can't get the BLUES games where I go to school, thus I don't get to see a whole lot of other teams play except for the Hawks.  But last night I got to catch a glimpse of the Caps/Isles game.  It occurred to me that Turgeon is a stud on skates. His moves are quick and brilliant.  You NY fans should be proud. P.S. Who won the game (Caps/Isles)?
In article <1993Apr2.175052.22810@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, breton@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Pierre Breton) writes: >  >  > The Adams division race is certainly interesting this year.  Here are > important data to keep in mind in the eventuality of a tie for a given > standing position. >  > In head to head games: > Quebec wins over Montreal, 4-3-0; > Boston leads against Quebec, 3-1-1 with two games remaining; > Montreal and Boston are tied, 4-4-0 with one game remaining. >  >       (..)        Pierre Breton   (aka Fluide Glacial)  Pierre, For purposes of the tie breaker, you only count the first three games in each city. Therefore, Quebec cannot possibly be ahead of Montreal 4-3, and there's probably only one game that counts remaining between Boston and Quebec, which means Boston has probably already won.
I agree thouroughly!!  Screw the damn contractual agreements! Show the exciting hockey game.  They will lose fans of ESPN (of which I have been one for quite a while) quickly  with decisions like this. Just my $.02
r_turgeo@oz.plymouth.edu  writes: >   I was reading a newspaper tidbit that mentioned that there is a > grammatical error on the Stanley Cup. This newspaper, "The  > Union Leader"  (Manchester, New Hampshire), stated that one of the > years that the New York Islanders won the cup, the printing on the > actual cup stated "New York Ilanders". Can anyone verify this?? I > forgot the exact year that this supposedly occured. Any die-hard > Islander fans know about this?? The reason why I am asking is > because the paper is not very reliable, we call it "The Union > Mis-leader". >  >  > Randy > Plymouth State College > r_turgeo@oz.plymouth.edu  Speaking of spelling errors on the Cup, I wonder if the "h" in Pittsburgh made it to the Cup.  You know how funny people can be about spelling Pittsburgh.
Hi.  According to my always questionable newspaper, there's a silver dollar being minted in Canada, the back of which commemorates the anniversary of the Stanley Cup.  Now, I know full well what coins are used every day in Canada.  I can easily fish a few out of my pocket change right now, in fact.  My question is, since the loon is the only dollar coin that I know is legal tender, is this just a commemorative coin with no monetary exchange value, or what?  Is it the sort of thing that only hockey buffs and coin collectors might covet, with no chance of it being circulated?  If it is an uncirculated coin, what's the current cost and what's its potential value?  Just curious.  If no one knows, I'll take this to soc.culture.canada and rec.collecting (or whatever it is).  Thanks again
cr292@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim Schenk) writes: >  > One last point, Darryl Sutter is getting badly out coached by Bob Berry.  The > madder Darryl gets the more he reminds me of Brian.  The Hawks are > quickly loosing thier focus, I don't think the Blues will win in 4 but you > never know  Not to Sutter bash or anything since I idolized them as players.... you sure would think the Sutters would learn something about burning out their teams in the regular season.....just too much intensity during the regular  season.  I earlier posted a note about Brian and got to thinking after I read this item.....gee both Sutters won their divisions and now both have lost  home ice advantage and are getting smoked in their opening series in the playoffs.  Kind of makes you wonder.......  Bottom line....man it is great to be smoking the WartHawks!!!!! Agreed Jim.....this has been damn sweet, so far.  About the only thing that comes close to this is shutting up all the Maple Laugh fans....Detroit has completely kicked their asses so far.  But, I will stick with the Blues for providing the best playoff tonic so far.
Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes: >gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) says: >>Locked away, waiting for the tape-delay to start ... > >I think this guy is going to be just a little bit disappointed.  Why?  I'm calling this Penguins ... in 6.  Only that with the way  things stand, the only radio game at that hour is from the Devils on WABC, 770 AM.  It'd be nice to have a Sony Watchman, but ...  No need to be paranoid, Robbie.  Don't judge me by my geographic coordinates ...  Jets over Nordiques in the final ... 7.  gld
In a previous article, 35002_2765@uwovax.uwo.ca () says:  >In article <boora.735182771@sfu.ca>, boora@kits.sfu.ca (The GodFather) writes: >>  >> 	CBC had a great chance for some double headers:  Toronto/Detroit >> and Vancouver/Winnipeg, but today they said that the East gets the Leafs >> and the West get the Vancouver game.  I thought that they would show them >> both.  I'm totally p*-o'd, too!  Vancouver-Winnipeg is great west-coast hockey - fast-paced and loads of talent.  What I've seen so far is hardly entertaining, with the exception of the odd shift every now & then (of course I missed Calgary-LA & Pitts-Jersey...)  >No, because the PINHEADS at CBC figure everyone here in Ontario cares >for the Leafs, the Maple Leafs, and nothing but the Leafs.  Half of >Southern Ontario is people who moved from out west, but the good folks >in Toronto couldn't care less.  They should show the doubleheader >(heck the second game would have two Canadian teams!), and let those >desperate for news watch The National on Newsworld, but they don't. >Why? Because Canada ends at Windsor, don'cha know!   Grrrrr.  Amen...  >Now I have to get updates every 30 mins. on CNN Headline News, for >crying out loud...  That's cheaper than what I do - PHONE CALLS.  (There must be a better system - one ring, Adams to Linden, he SCORES; two rings Bure rushes up the ice, he SCORES, etc etc :-))
In article <93106.082502ACPS6992@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> Raj Ramnarace <ACPS6992@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes: >did anyone else see this game last night ? just like a playoff game!! >lots of hitting...but I was disappointed by the video goal judge... >on all replays, joe murphy's goal shouldn't have counted ! it didn't go in net >!! and according to the tsn broadcasters, the video goal judge said that he >saw the water bottle on top of the cage move so he assumed the puck went in! >this is terrible...hope crap like this doesn't occur in the playoffs! >the game would have ended in 2-2 tie !  I thought the red light went on...thus, in the review, the presumption would be to find conclusive evidence that the puck did not go in the net...from the replays I say, even from the rear, the evidence wasn't conclusive that the puck was in or out...in my opinion...
On April 23,  wuziyun%suned@cs.yale.edu (You wanna know?) wrote:  W -->  W --> SEE! The Providence Bruins lost the first two games at home and came back to W -->      tie the series on the road, there may be hope for the Bruins yet!  Toast. They're toast. (And I know how much you want me to eat these  words, but it ain't gonna happen.) Are the golf courses in the Boston  area in playable condition yet?  - Jack   * Acid consumes 47 times its weight in life!
Richard Wernick (richard@amc.com) wrote: : You should be ashamed to call yourself an Ulf Samuelson fan. Anybody who plays : the way he does, does not belong in the NHL. There have been cheap shot artists : through the history of the game, but a lot of them have been talanted players. : Bobby Clarke, Kenny Linsemen, Pie McKenzie, Chris Chelios etc.. but nobody has been : out right as dirty a cheapshot coward as Ulf. Violence in hockey has got to be curbed : and players like (Should have been a Women) Samuelson don't belong. When players : like Ulf, who's main purpose is to injure the better players in the league is allowed : to continue, and the league won't stop it, the players should. A Christian Pro 1000 : aluminum stick directed at his ugly head should do the trick nicely. If the Bruins get : a chance to meet Pittsburgh in the near future, you can bet Neely will have his day. : The sight of watching Ulf turtle up like the coward he is, is worth almost as much as a : Stanely Cup. This wimp of a player almost ruined the career of one the best right wingers : in the game. If you are to remove Ulf Samuelson from the lineup, the Penguins would not : even notice he's gone. He's an eyesore on the game of hockey.   : Rich   Thank you for your extremely lucid and well thought out observation. Now when you get back on your medication, please let us know how you are feeling.  Thank you,
Why would Pollin want to move the Caps, because I think he owns the Cap Centre.  I know they don't sell out all of their  games, but they draw a lot more than the Bullets.  If you had the situation that Abe had, would you move if you were guaranteed that anyone who went to the games would have to  park at the stadium, because there has been nothing within a half mile, until the recent construction in the area.    Can they win a game in OT again.        Rich
In article <16BB7BF12.RRHAMMER@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu> RRHAMMER@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu writes: >Like many others I too was watching the Caps/Isles game when the went >to the baseball game.  I too was pissed.  How could they interupt such >an important game.  I understand about contracts, but you would think they >would have a clause in the contract concerning important games! >Anyway,  us BLUES (and Hawks) fans got shafted worse!  While everyone >in the U.S. and watched the game on ABC.  However those of us who live in >the central Illinois area were subjected to watching the Arthritus(?) >Telethon.  The area that was most affected by the telecast did not get >to see the game except through HAWK VISION.  This game, had it been >televised, would have been the first home Hawks game shown in the area >since 1980.  This television BULL*&%$ has got to stop.  We are not only >being deprived of seeing games, due to skyrocketing ticket prices, but >we are also being deprived of watching them on TV. > PEACE, > HAMMER >   I'm familiar with the telethon situation (an individual on CompuServe was also victimized and was equally pissed).  That was a local television station contract which could not be broken.  For that item, I strongly suggest you call that affiliate and vent your anger on them.  (Supposedly one station had told my friend that they have received hundreds of angry calls which will translate into far less incentive to pre-empt hockey telecasts in future.  The contract was written when the pathetic WLAF was in that time slot.)
> Now here this:  Anyone voting for John Blue for best goalie mask poll will be > shot on site, no questions asked ;-)  > But c'mon.. it's a black mask, with yellow paint along the opening..  how > totally plain vanilla!  eeuu..  Heh, someone mentioned Tommy Soderstrom (Flyers) for the besk mask poll too (in the mentioned below part).  All he has is a plain white helmet with a big cage. I found this pretty amusing.  					-John Santore  Philadelphia Flyers in '93-'94!  =============================================================================  ____________________                                 /                    \                   "We break the surface tension  \_________     ____   \                   with our wild kinetic dreams" /             /    \   \                        -Rush, Grand Designs \_______     /  (*) )   ) /           / /\___/   /                 Go Philadelphia Flyers! \_____     / /        / /         /  \_______/                   John Santore (jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu) \________/
In article <1993Apr6.155743.18798@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes: >In article <1993Apr6.141557.8864@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes: >>Anyways, crawl back into the hole you crawled out of...the NBA doesn't >>care where they get basketball players from, major league baseball >>doesn't give a damn where they get baseball players from (except Cuba, >>that is). > >MLB is perfectly willing to take players from Cuba.  They just have to >defect first.   > >Sort of like the situation used to be with Russian/Czech/etc hockey >players, until the political situation in those countries changed. >  Major league baseball has told the Blue Jays and the Expos not to sign Oscar Linares (I think that is his name) ...Canada does not have the restrictions against Cubans that the US has and other major league teams have told the Canadian teams that they would be very unhappy if the Expos or the Blue Jays would do this.  Cubans players would not have to defect to play in Canada and could play the 81 home games for the Expos and Blue Jays without any trouble.
>A fine 26 year history came to a close tonight, as the Minnesota North Stars,  >or Norm's Stars (whichever you prefer) lost to the Red Wings by a score of >5-3.  The Stars goals were scored by Mike McPhee and Ulf Dahlen, who netted >two including the final one in franchise history, with less than a minute to >play.   Yes, it's a shame that the NHL lost a fine team in one of the best hockey markets in the country.  Being a North Stars fan, it is sad to see all of the tradition of the last 26 years get thrown into oblivion at the hands of a truly crappy owner.  Hopefully the NHL will install an expansion franchise in the Twin Cities within the next five years.  Even if this is the case, a lot has been lost in the North Stars move...
While watching the Penguins/Devils game last night, I saw the "slash" that Barrasso took on the neck.  This brought to mind the goaltender who had his jugular vein cut by a skate.  I think he was a Sabre, but I'm not positive. Does anyone remember/know his name?  What has happened to him since?  What about the player whose skate cut the goalie?  Name?  Info?  Has this ever happened before in a hockey game?     Thanks,
In article <1r4af2$qve@hsdndev.harvard.edu>, nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219) writes: |> Hey,guess what's coming to ESPN for a change? A playoff which doesn't |> involve the Pens. Not that there is anything wrong with that... |>  |> ESPN games : |>  |> Thursday  Game3 Pens at Devils at 7:30(Gary Thorne and Bill Clement) |> Saturday  Game4 Caps at NY Isles at 7:30(Tom Mees and John Davidson) |>  |> ABC game : |>  |> Sunday    Game4 Pens at Devils at 1:00 (Gary Thorne and Bill Clement) |>      Only if you are in the eastern time zone - pacific will get the      Kings vs Calgary   |> ESPN named its #2 broadcast team on Tuesday. It paired Tom Mees(play by |> play) with John Davidson(analyst). |>  |> -PPV Mark