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In article <1993Apr22.220409.10862@wuecl.wustl.edu>, jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) writes: |> In article <vzhivov.735454735@cunews> vzhivov@alfred.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov) writes: |> > |> >The Blues, led by the best goalie in the NHL this season, Curtis |> >Joseph, shut-out the Hawks 2-0. The Blues are playing like they did in |> >'86 - clutch 'n grab, shoot the puck out. It's incredibly boring to |> >watch, but if it works... |> > |>  Finally a non Blues fan agrees that Joseph is a great goalie. I think he |> should win the Vezina this year or at least share it with Barrasso who also |> has been shadowed by Mario's amazing performance. |>   I too think that Joseph has had a GREAT year and should be considered for the Vezina.  I think Barrasso and Joseph should be the two strongest candidates this year.  I don't believe ALL of the hype that Roy, Belfour and now Potvin receive for their goaltending.  I do think that they are great in the nets, but I would rather have Curtis, Tommy or Fuhr in the nets during this years playoffs.  The big name tenders always seem to have a strong defense in front of them and the goaltenders get the most credit.  I would rather face 25 shots a game, than have to rely on Joseph saving 35, but if the goalie is going to face 35 shots, I would rather have Joseph or Barrasso facing them.  -Jay  ps Go Quebec!!!  And I know that McLean and several others should be mentioned as candidates for this years Vezina, but I am partial to Joseph and Barrasso this season.
Anna Matyas (am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:  : Antonio Pera writes:  : >	I loved the ABC coverage. The production was excellent. The appearance : >was excellent. It had a sleek modern look. This was the first time I heard : >Thorne & Clement & I thought they were great. My only request is to leave : >Al Micheals out of this. He annoys me.  : : I was skeptical before the game but was pleasantly surprised at the : coverage.  I was particularly impressed by the close range camera coverage : of work in the corners and behind the play without losing a beat getting : back to the puck.     Boy - everyone has been ripping on ESPN's hockey coverage (or is it just Pittsburgher's who are thrilled with Lange & Steigy?)  For all of you who are unaware -> ESPN bought the air time from ABC and did all the  production, advertising sales, commentating, etc -> and even  reaped any $ made...
Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes: >I'm just wondering where all the Bruins fans are???  I mean they woofed it >up with about 1,000,000 posts during the regular season saying that their >fave team was going to kick everyone's @#$ in the playoffs and win the Stanley >Cup.  While I see nothing wrong with a little ranting and raving, I'm just >curious why all the Boston faithful have stopped posting.  I mean I haven't >even see just one little Boston fan post, 'cept for the Bruins fans that >aren't cocky.  Well, maybe they're all out on the golf course or something, >but I don't know, I'd sure like to see where all those Bruins fans are at :-)  Still here. Just doing a little sobbing in our beer so we're to busy to post :-)  Seriously I think I caught a .sig curse from Nelson :-) First the $%@#$%$ Rangers and $50 now the B's...... Hmmm....How bout dem Whalers? (No offense to steveg or others)
joe13+@pitt.edu (Joseph B Stiehm) writes:    >>the way he does, does not belong in the NHL. There have been cheap shot artists >>through the history of the game, but a lot of them have been talanted players. >>Bobby Clarke, Kenny Linsemen, Pie McKenzie, Chris Chelios etc.. but nobody has been >>out right as dirty a cheapshot coward as Ulf. Violence in hockey has got to be curbed >>and players like (Should have been a Women) Samuelson don't belong. When players >>like Ulf, who's main purpose is to injure the better players in the league is allowed >>to continue, and the league won't stop it, the players should. A Christian Pro 1000 >>aluminum stick directed at his ugly head should do the trick nicely. If the Bruins get >>a chance to meet Pittsburgh in the near future, you can bet Neely will have his day. >>The sight of watching Ulf turtle up like the coward he is, is worth almost as much as a >>Stanely Cup. This wimp of a player almost ruined the career of one the best right wingers >>in the game. If you are to remove Ulf Samuelson from the lineup, the Penguins would not >>even notice he's gone. He's an eyesore on the game of hockey. >> >> >>Rich    >Rich, pull your head out of your ass.  >Joseph Stiehm   As if an aluminum stick being taken to Ulf's head is gonna solve the problem with violence in the sport of hockey.  How the hell can you say the guy is a goon and justify it, with your back-assward mentality?  Saying that hurting a player will solve anyone's problems is asinine.  New rules and a new  referee system need to be instituted.  Right now, too many of the real goons get away with too much, because the ref is watching the play (or supposed to be:I've seen Koharski and Van Hellemond, to name a few, with their heads up their  asses on a few calls) rather than keeping an eye on the goofballs behind the  play.  Even if the linesmen were able to call all penalties, it would be an improvement.
As a person who has rarely even SEEN Don Cherry and doesn't know anything about him, I don't know whether it is just this area (Pittsburgh) of the USA that is "deprived" of his broadcasts or whether he's a Canadian thing altogether.  Seriously, what is he all about?  I know he was a coach at one time, and from the volume of posts about him, SOMEONE surely is getting a steady diet of him somehow, but my question is, what is the deal with him?  Secondly, are the comments of his that I read about on the net merely flame bait, or do people actually take him seriously?  I gotta tell you, from what I see, he really sounds like an ass.  Let me know - maybe I'm missing something.
gballent@hudson.UVic.CA (Greg  Ballentine) writes:   >In article 735571987@vela.acs.oakland.edu, ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes:  >>gballent@vancouver.UVic.CA (Greg  Ballentine) writes:  [stuff deleted]  >When Quinn took over Vancouver- several years ago, NOT LAST YEAR, they  >regularily missed the playoffs.  I can't recall if they missed the playoffs >the year before his hiring but they probably did.  Quinn has improved the >team from non-playoff calibre to a serious contender.  >When Murray took over in Detroit, the were about a .500 team that was a >contender to win the Norris division and possibly even a Stanley Cup >contender.  The last year before Bryan Murray took over, the Wings did not make the playoffs.  While they had been considered a possible contender when Jacques Demers first arrived, in his last two years they were, respectively, embarrassed in the first round by Chicago, and then failed to make the  playoffs (at a time, a might add, when there were only five teams in the Norris).  It's true that Vancouver did not make the playoffs for many a year before  Quinn came, but in those years the Smythe Division was a lot--I mean *a lot*-- tougher division than the Norris, also known as the "Snorris", division. Vancouver had to play Edmonton and Calgary, both very legitimate Stanley Cup contenders, eight times a year, while Detroit got to play such  powerhouses as Toronto and Minnesota.  Now, Edmonton is hardly even a force in the league, and the Smythe even has the mighty San Jose sharks, while over this same period of time in which Vancouver was improving, so was  everybody in the Norris (except St. Louis).  Detroit had to improve just to keep up with the competition in their division.  They had to improve *a lot* to get better than their competition in the Norris.  Bryan Murray inherited a team with very little talent.  For really good players, they had Yzerman, Burr, and Probert, and that was about it.  (And no doubt some will dispute whether Burr and Probert were that good). The rest were either very green rookies or washed up veterans.  The only reason they got as far as they did in the years before Murray came was due to the coaching of Demers, who, at least at first, got every last ounce of effort possible out of his team.  Then, even his coaching began to degrade.  >So Quinn has improved his team more than Murray has since taking over as a GM. >Quinn is one example of a better GM than Murray.  There are a number of reasons why Detroit wasn't in as bad a shape standings wise when Murray took over as Vanc. was when Quinn took over, some of which I outlined above, but Murray did not have any better personnel to work with at the outset than did Quinn, with the exception of Yzerman.  And one player cannot alone make a team into a Stanley Cup contender, as I'm sure everyone reading this will agree.    We'll be able to see better which team is really the most improved when they face each other in the conference final (assuming they don't get knocked out, like last year).  >Gregmeister
Locked away, waiting for the tape-delay to start ...  It's nice that the Devils are starting out their playoffs on network television ... too bad that their playoff game has been preempted on WABC-AM for an early-season Yankees baseball game!  It's a 12-2 win by the Texas Rangers ... and they're delaying the tape-delay by another half-hour for the ballgame "highlights"!!!  gld
bart@splunge.uucp (Barton Oleksy) writes:  >yadalle@cs.UAlberta.CA (Yadallee Dave S) writes:  >>Here's one from the mill.  The Oilers MIGHT move to Hamilton >>where Porklington can get a free deal.  >>Given what Labour relations and Puck has been like, it WOULD be a sigh of  >>relief.  >>This WAY w4e can can BOTH elements!!  >Well, Dave, I would have to disagree with you there.  Satan himself could >own the team, and I'd be happy as long as the Oilers stayed in Edmonton. >Selfish, but true.  I don't want to see the Oilers move, no matter who >their owner is.  >Bart, bart@splunge.uucp  or  barto@nait.ab.ca  I too am of the same  sentiment Bart, but realistically, this town DOESN'T WANT TO pay for  quality player and hence we are loosing these people left, right and center. Labour is also responsible for their boycott Pocklington movement. I would like the Oilers to stay, but realistically, given this situation, it's  bye-bye Oilers.
This game would have been great as part of a double-header on ABC or ESPN; the league would have been able to push back-to-back wins by Le Magnifique and The Great One.  Unfortunately, the only network that would have done that was SCA, seen in few areas and hard to justify as a pay channel. )-;  gld
In <1993Apr21.211038.12363@newshub.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes:   >In article <1993Apr21.161633.25624@wuecl.wustl.edu> jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) writes:  >>  Buffalo is up 2-0 is the series with Boston, and the reason....Grant Fuhr ? >>  Fuhr is playoff hungry, and he's proving once again why they call him >>  money goaltender. Fuhr might not be one of the best goaltenders in the >>  league anymore (Statistically at least), but he's proving that he can >>  make the big save at the right time. >>  The Leafs should have kept Fuhr, and probably would have had a chance  >>  against powerhouse Detroit. But again.......where was Andreychoke in game 1?  >I applauded the Sabres for making the deal to get Fuhr, specifically because I >thought it would help them win at least one playoff series.  However, I don't >think the Leafs can be faulted either...there is nothing to say that Felix >won't be winning playoff series by himself in years to come.
d_jaracz@oz.plymouth.edu  writes: > In article <93106.092246DLMQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> Harold Zazula <DLMQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes: > >I was watching the Detroit-Minnesota game last night and thought I saw an > >octopus on the ice after Ysebaert scored to tie the game at two. What gives? >  > No no no!!!  It's a squid!  Keep the tradition alive!  (Kinda like the > fish at UNH games....) >  Actually, the way I understand it, it is an octapus. Apparently, a number of years ago, a fan threw an octapus on the ice and the announcer said "Octapi will not occupy the ice" or something like that, and it's happened ever since.  The fans cheer those who pick up the dead octapus with their hands, and boo those who use a shovel.
Actually, I was angry when they went away from the Pens game. Being a Pens fan in central Virginia is kinda tough.  I only get to see them on ESPN, and when they play the Caps, cause we're close enough to DC to get all the Caps games, so when ESPN switched to the Caps, . . . AAAGGGHHH!
sjg3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEVEN JAY GIBBLE) writes: :   [ a whole lot of completely ignorant stuff about Pitt. ]  Give this guy a drug test, and some Ridalin whale you are at it.
Did anyone see the Montreal - Quebec game yesterday?  It was tight right down to the last second of the third period.  In the overtime Roy and Hextall played like they were gods.   Ok, so Montreal won!  They deserved it after getting their first goal in overtime waved off because the puck was hit in with a high stick.  Their second goal in overtime was also replayed, but I could not tell if it was the Montreal player who kicked it in.  The puck definitely was not directed in by a stick. Anyways, Montreal is back into the series.
Yeah, the news is true...the Leafs lost to the Wings 6-3. Wish I could say I'd seen the whole game but my husband wanted to watch "Young Guns II" on another channel. Sometime between the first time I tuned in and d saw the Leafs tie and the next time I tuned in and heard the score was 5-1, something happened. 	Please no woofing from Red Wings fans.  They're my third favourite team, and if they make it past the Leafs I'll wish them luck.  As for Potvin...well, it WAS his fist playoff game.
: FINLAND:   :  : D-Jyrki Lumme.......20 : D-Teppo Numminen....20 : D-Peter Ahola.......13 :  Well well, they don't like our defenders (mainly Lumme and Numminen)...  : C-Jari Kurri........25 : C-Christian Ruuttu..16 :  Now, do YOU think that Ruuttu is only worth 16 ? I think it might be 20.  : R-Teemu Selanne.....27 :  Compared to Kurri, Selanne's points are too high, lets make it 25 or 26.   : well in the Canada Cup and World Championships largely due to the efforts of : Markus Ketterer (the goalie), 3-4 or the players listed above and luck. There's : presumably a lot of decent players in Finland that wouldn't be superstars at : the highest level but still valuable role players, however. My guess would be : that the Finnish Canada Cup team would be a .500 team in the NHL.  Wow, now, it looks like you don't like our players? What about guys like: Nieminen, Jutila, Riihijarvi, Varvio, Laukkanen, Makela, Keskinen and (even if he is aging) Ruotsalainen? The main difference between finnish and North- American players is, that our players tend to be better in the larger rink. The Canadian defenders are usually slower that defenders in Europe.  And I think that there was more in our success than Ketterer and luck (though they helped). I think that the main reason was, that the team worked well together.
I really feel the need for a knowledgable hockey observer to explain this year's playoffs to me. I mean, the obviously superior Toronto team with the best center and the best goalie in the league keeps losing. What gives?  --  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------           I stand by all the misstatements that I've made. 		-- Vice President Dan Quayle to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/89
AHL CALDER CUP PLAYOFF GAME(S) PLAYED ON 4/16 Providence 3	SPRINGFIELD 2	(OT)	 Baltimore 4	BINGHAMTON 3		 Utica 3		ROCHESTER 2	(OT)	 Cape Breton 5	FREDERICTON 2		  GAME(S) SCHEDULED FOR 4/17 Capital District at Adirondack		 Providence at Springfield Baltimore at Binghamton Utica at Rochester			 Moncton vs St John's at Halifax		 					 SERIES STATI (plural of status? :) Adirondack leads CDI, 1-0 Springfield leads Providence, 2-1 Baltimore leads Binghamton 1-0 Utica leads Rochester, 1-0 St John's leads Moncton, 1-0 Cape Breton tied w/Fredericton, 1-1 	 ================================================= ================================================= FULL 1993 CALDER CUP PLAYOFF SCHEDULE AND RESULTS	 home team in CAPS		*=if necesary  FIRST ROUND					 Springfield Indians vs Providence Bruins Gm 1:	Springfield 3	PROVIDENCE 2	 Gm 2:	Springfield 5	PROVIDENCE 4 Gm 3:	Providence 3	SPRINGFIELD 2 Gm 4:	4/17	Providence at Springfield Gm 5:	4/22	Springfield at Providence	 Gm 6:	4/24	Providence at Springfield	* Gm 7:	4/27	Springfield at Providence	*  CD Islanders vs Adirondack Red Wings Gm 1:	ADIRONDACK 6	CDI 2 Gm 2:	4/17	CDI at Adirondack Gm 3:	4/18	Adirondack at CDI Gm 4:	4/21	Adirondack at CDI Gm 5:	4/23	CDI at Adirondack	* Gm 6:	4/24	Adirondack at CDI	* Gm 7:	4/26	CDI at Adirondack	*  Baltimore Skipjacks at Binghamton Rangers Gm 1:	Baltimore 4	BINGHAMTON 3	 Gm 2:	4/17	Baltimore at Binghamton Gm 3:	4/23	Binghamton at Baltimore Gm 4:	4/24	Binghamton at Baltimore Gm 5:	4/26	Baltimore at Binghamton	* Gm 6:	4/28	Binghmaton at Baltimore	* Gm 7:	4/30	Baltimore at Binghamton	* 		 Utica Devils vs Rochester Americans Gm 1:	Utica 3		Rochester 2	(OT) Gm 2:	4/17	Utica at Rochester Gm 3:	4/20	Rochester at Utica Gm 4:	4/22	Rochester at Utica Gm 5:	4/24	Utica at Rochester	* Gm 6:	4/26	Rochester at Utica	* Gm 7:	4/28	Utica at Rochester	*  Moncton Hawks vs St John's Maple Leafs Gm 1:	St John's 4	Moncton 2 Gm 2:	4/17	Moncton vs St John's at Halifax Gm 3:	4/21	St John's at Moncton Gm 4:	4/23	St John's at Moncton Gm 5:	4/26	Moncton vs St John's at Halifax	* Gm 6:	4/28	St John's at Moncton		* Gm 7:	4/30	Moncton vs St John's at Halifax	*  Cape Breton Oilers vs Fredericton Canadiens Gm 1:	FREDERICTON 4	Cape Breton 3	(2OT) Gm 2:	Cape Breton 5	FREDERICTON 2 Gm 3:	4/20	Fredericton at Cape Breton Gm 4:	4/22	Fredericton at Cape Breton Gm 5:	4/24	Cape Breton at Fredericton	 Gm 6:	4/26	Fredericton at Cape Breton	* Gm 7:	4/28	Cape Breton at Fredericton	*
In article <93095.210625MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>, <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> says: > >Also sprach slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca ... > >>TSN Sportsdesk just reported that the OTTAWA SUN has reported that >>Montreal will send 4 players + $15 million including Vin Damphousse >>and Brian Bellows to Phillidelphia, Phillie will send Eric Lindros >>to Ottawa, and Ottawa will give it's first round pick to Montreal. >> >>If this is true, it will most likely depend on whether or not Ottawa >>gets to choose 1st overall.  Can Ottawa afford Lindros' salary? >> >>Personally, I can't see Philli giving up Lindros -- for anything. >>They didn't give away that much to Quebec just to trade him away >>again.  Not to mention that Lindros seems to be a *huge* draw in >>Phillie -- and that he represents a successful future for the >>franchise. >> >>Ottawa may be better off taking the 4 players +$15 from Montreal >>for the pick. >> >>Stephen Legge >>SLEGGE@kean.ucs.munc.ca > >Two things: > >1. Didn't the trade deadline pass two weeks ago? > >2. The FLYERS would never ever EVER give up Lindros, simple as that. > 3. With Soderstrom and Roussel, why the hell would the Flyers want to    pick up an older and slumping Roy?  (BYW, I could come up with a group of players they'd trade for.... but they wouldn't be from the same team.)  >Go Flyers, Cup in '94... > >Mike >--- >***Yes-Rush-Marillion-ELP-Genesis-King Crimson-Dream Theater-Beatles*** >* Mike Weintraub, aka Jvi on IRC              "Courageous convictions * >* mweintr@american.edu                         will drag the dream    * >* jedi@wave.cerf.net                           into existence"        * >* The American University, Washington DC        - Rush (NOT Limbaugh) * >***Go Philadelphia Flyers, Vancouver Canucks & Philadelphia Phillies***
In article <1993Apr14.185059.27513@ncsu.edu>, fmsalvat@eos.ncsu.edu (FRANK MICHAE SALVATORE) writes: |>  |>   |>  |> >  |> > What makes you think so?  I'd like to understand your reasoning. |> > From my seat, the Caps don't really appear to believe that they can  |> > defeat Pittsburgh.  Therefore, they don't.  I think their spirit was  |> > broken in last year's playoffs and hasn't really recovered.  I don't know  |> > what the season series numbers were, but I believe that the Pens won it. |> > I think that either the Devils or the Islanders will cause more problems for |>  |>  |> What is this spirit crap?  I'm a Caps fan and hope they win |> if they end up facing Pittsburgh, |> but I don't think the Caps lose to Pitt because of lack |> of spirit.  Yes, the Penguins won the season series against the |> Caps.  They've won eighteen games in a row for God's sake. |> Did you ever think the Penguins might be good, and that's |> why they win?  I re-read what I wrote and it didn't say exactly what I thought.    Sure the Pens are a better team.  They've got size and the best skill players in the league.  They've also got the best clutch goaltending.  They're the  best team in the league.  But, my point was the Caps have not played to their ability level vs the Pens since last year's choke.  And that's the mental problem (the one they've had for a number of years) I tried to point out.  Spirit, mental preparedness, will to win, whatever you want to call it, it's missing when the Caps play the Pens.  Actually, you're right - it won't make any difference.
In article <1r49s8$q8b@hsdndev.harvard.edu> nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219) writes:   > Bruins have never come back to win after falling behind 2-0 in  > their entire 68-year history.     Which doesn't mean much since the statistics are mostly based on the 5-game playoff format. But, yes, it looks dark for the B's. What a disappointment.     Still, I think the problem is mental. They needed the saves Blue came up with, perhaps he can offer something to mentally rally around.     Who do you think gets the start in game three? I hope it is going to be Blue. If the team can rally around him, maybe Moog can too.
The new name is Florida Panthers.   The panther is an endangered species, mostly located in the Everglades. A couple of years ago, there were license plates made with Panthers on them (part of the revenue were to go to some protection fund).  The name of the new President of the Panthers should be announced today.  As of yesterday's paper, Huizenga's new hockey team will take the ice at the Miami Arena this fall.  The team has a guaranteed two-year lease with the arena, with four one-year options that could run through 1999.  "It's not our choice", James Blosser, a lawyer and Huizenga Aid said about ruling out the arena as a long term option.  "The NHL told us we  can't stay there.  It's not economically feasible."  One reason is because the Miami Heat basketball team controls skybox and advertising revenue at the arena, reducing the hockey team's profit potential.  The hockey team is attracting arena site proposals from Broward, Dade,  and Palm Beach counties.  A leading site is vacant land near Joe Robbie Stadium, where residents 10 days ago agreed to drop their opposition to a hockey arena, ending an eight-year battle of wills.  Compliments of the News/Sun-Sentinel.  Jim G.
In article <yadalle.735582909@cab117> yadalle@cs.UAlberta.CA (Yadallee Dave S) writes: >Here's one from the mill.  The Oilers MIGHT move to Hamilton >where Porklington can get a free deal. > >Given what Labour relations and Puck has been like, it WOULD be a sigh of relief. >    I heard yesterday that Pocklington was talking with folks at Copps that afternoon (yesterday).