In article <30946@galaxy.ucr.edu> raffi@watnxt08.ucr.edu (Raffi R Kojian) writes:  >Nice strategy Sedar, maybe if you can make up SO many stories about what   >happened in WWI you will confuse everybody into forgetting the Armenian    Ah, those poor genocide apologists. Such quaintly charming habits of the Armenian barbarism and fascism. No swinging of lies will be enough to cover  up the crimes of the x-Soviet Armenian Government. Not a chance. Now let  the Kurdish scholars speak for themselves.  Source: Hassan Arfa, "The Kurds," (London, 1968), pp. 25-26.   "When the Russian armies invaded Turkey after the Sarikamish disaster    of 1914, their columns were preceded by battalions of irregular    Armenian volunteers, both from the Caucasus and from Turkey. One of    these was commanded by a certain Andranik, a blood-thirsty adventurer.   These Armenian volunteers committed all kinds of excesses, more   than six hundred thousand Kurds being killed between 1915 and 1916 in    the eastern vilayets of Turkey."  Sources: (The Ottoman State, the Ministry of War), "Islam Ahalinin  Ducar Olduklari Mezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat," (Istanbul, 1918).  The French version: "Documents Relatifs aux Atrocites Commises par les Armeniens sur la Population Musulmane," (Istanbul, 1919). In the Latin script: H. K. Turkozu, ed., "Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi," (Ankara, 1982). In addition: Z. Basar, ed., "Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz," (Ankara, 1974) and, edited by the same author, "Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler - Derlemeler," (Ankara, 1978). "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ...," Vol. 32, 83 (December 1983), document numbered 1881. "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ....," Vol. 31, 81 (December 1982), document  numbered 1869.  "Those who were capable of fighting were taken away at the very beginning  with the excuse of forced labor in road construction, they were taken  in the direction of Sarikamis and annihilated. When the Russian army  withdrew, a part of the remaining people was destroyed in Armenian  massacres and cruelties: they were thrown into wells, they were locked  in houses and burned down, they were killed with bayonets and swords, in places  selected as butchering spots, their bellies were torn open, their lungs  were pulled out, and girls and women were hanged by their hair after  being subjected to every conceivable abominable act. A very small part   of the people who were spared these abominations far worse than the  cruelty of the inquisition resembled living dead and were suffering  from temporary insanity because of the dire poverty they had lived  in and because of the frightful experiences they had been subjected to.  Including women and children, such persons discovered so far do not  exceed one thousand five hundred in Erzincan and thirty thousand in  Erzurum. All the fields in Erzincan and Erzurum are untilled, everything  that the people had has been taken away from them, and we found them  in a destitute situation. At the present time, the people are subsisting  on some food they obtained, impelled by starvation, from Russian storages  left behind after their occupation of this area."    Source: "Adventures in the Near East" by A. Rawlinson, Jonathan Cape,  30 Bedford Square, London, 1934 (First published 1923) (287 pages). (Memoirs of a British officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5   million Muslim people)  p. 184 (second paragraph)   "I had received further very definite information of horrors that   had been committed by the Armenian soldiery in Kars Plain, and as    I had been able to judge of their want of discipline by their    treatment of my own detached parties, I had wired to Tiflis from    Zivin that 'in the interests of humanity the Armenians should not    be left in independent command of the Moslem population, as, their    troops being without discipline and not under effective control,    atrocities were constantly being committed, for which we should    with justice eventually be held to be morally responsible'."  p. 177 (third paragraph)   "Armenian troops, who, having pillaged and destroyed all the   Moslem villages in the plain...."   "Caravans of refugees were in the meanwhile constantly arriving from the   plain, from which the whole Moslem population was fleeing with as much of   their personal property as they could transport, seeking to obtain security   and protection..."  p. 178 (first paragraph)   "In those Moslem villages in the plain below which had been searched    for arms by the Armenians everything had been taken under the cloak of    such search, and not only had many Moslems been killed, but horrible    tortures had been inflicted in the endeavour to obtain information as    to where valuables had been hidden, of which the Armenians were aware    of the existence, although they had been unable to find them."  p. 181 (first paragraph)   "the Armenians from the plain were attacking the Kurdish line with    artillery, with probably a large force in support."  p. 175 (first paragraph)   "The arrival of this British brigade was followed by the announcement   that Kars Province had been allotted by the Supreme Council of the   Allies to the Armenians, and that announcement having been made, the   British troops were then completely withdrawn, and Armenian occupation   commenced. Hence all the trouble; for the Armenians at once commenced   the wholesale robbery and persecution of the Muslem population on the   pretext that it was necessary forcibly to deprive them of their arms.   In the portion of the province which lies in the plains they were able   to carry out their purpose, and the manner in which this was done will   be referred to in due course."   Serdar Argic