In article <2BD220B1.22816@news.service.uci.edu> tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:  >>>>I sure hope so. Because, the unspeakable crimes of the Armenians must  >>>>be righted. Armenian invaders burned and sacked the fatherland of  >> >>>No!  NO!  no no no no no.  It is not justifiable to right wrongs of >>>previous years.    >Well, there is a bit: such as the German reparations to the jewish >survivors of the Holocaust. Certainly, as such an event goes further  >into the past, reparations become less realistic.  I was convinced that no one could have a more warped sense of the world. They were 'our' grandparents who were cold-bloodedly exterminated by the Armenians between 1914 and 1920, not yours. And you can always participate in 'The Turkish Genocide Day' along with millions of Turkish  and Kurdish people on April 23, 1993 in the United States and Canada.   ...On this occasion, we once again reiterate the unquestioned  justice of the restitution of Turkish and Kurdish rights and...  - We demand that the x-Soviet Armenian Government admit its  responsibility for the Turkish and Kurdish Genocide, render  reparations to the Muslim people, and return the land to its  rightful owners. The recognition of the Genocide has become an  issue which cannot be delayed further, and it is imperative that  artificial obstacles created for political manipulations be removed.  - We believe the time has come to demand from the the United States  that it formally recognizes the Turkish and Kurdish Genocide, adopts  the principles of our demands and refuses to accede to Armenian pressures  to the contrary.  - As taxpayers of the United States, we express our vehement  protest to the present U.S. Government policy of continued  coddling, protection and unqualified assistance towards x-Soviet Armenia.  - We also demand that the United States return to the policies  advocated by U.S. Ambassador Bristol and other enlightened statesmen, who have undertaken a just, human and benevolent attitude towards  the rights of the Muslim people and the just resolution of their Case.  - Our territorial demands are strictly aimed at x-Soviet Armenia's.   And in article <2BAC262D.25249@news.service.uci.edu>, you have blatantly lied:  >The Goltz article was NOT published in the Sunday Times Magazine >on March 1, 1992, but in the Guardian Sunday Section.   Well, still anxiously awaiting...  CIS Commander Pulls Troops Out of Karabagh :  "Elif Kaban, a Reuter correspondent in Agdam, reported that after a battle   on Wednesday, Azeris were burying scores of people who died when Armenians   overran the town of Khojaly, the second-biggest Azeri settlement in the   area. 'The world is turning its back on what's happening here. We are dying   and you are just watching,' one mourner shouted at a group of journalists."  Helen Womack  The Independent, 2/29/92  Armenian Soldiers Massacre Hundreds of Fleeing Families:  "The attackers killed most of the soldiers and volunteers defending the   women and children.  They then turned their guns on the terrified refugees.    The few survivors later described what happened: 'That's when the real   slaughter began,' said Azer Hajiev, one of the three soldiers to survive.    'The Armenians just shot and shot. And they came in and started carving   up people with their bayonets and knives.'  A 45-year-old man who had been   shot in the back  said:' We were walking through the brush. Then they opened   up on us and people were falling all around.  My wife fell, then my child."  Thomas Goltz  Sunday Times, 3/1/92  Armenian Raid Leaves Azeris Dead or Fleeing:  "...about 1,000 of Khojaly's 10,000 people were killed in Tuesdays attack.   Azerbaijani television showed truckloads of corpses being evacuated from   the Khocaly area."  Brian Killen (Reuters)  The Washington Times, 3/2/92  Atrocity Reports Horrify Azerbaijan :  "Azeri officials who returned from the seen to this town about nine miles   away brought back three dead children, the backs of their heads blown off...  'Women and children had been scalped,' said Assad Faradzev, an aide to   Karabagh's Azeri governor.  Azeri television showed pictures of one   truckload of bodies brought to the Azeri town of Agdam, some with their   faces apparently scratched with knives or their eyes gouged out."  Brian Killen (Reuters)  The Washington Times, 3/3/92  Massacre By Armenians Being Reported:  "The Republic of Armenia reiterated denials that its militants had   killed 1,000 [Azeris]... But dozens of bodies scattered over the   area lent credence to Azerbaijani reports of a massacre."  (Reuters)  The New York Times, 3/3/92  Killings Rife in Nagorno-Karabagh, Moldova:  "Journalists in the area reported seeing dozens of corpses, including some   of the civilians, and Azerbaijani officials said Armenians began shooting   at them when they sought to recover the bodies."  Fred Hiatt  The Washington Post, 3/3/92  Bodies Mark Site of Karabagh Massacre:  "A local truce was enforced to allow the Azerbaijanis to collect their dead   and any refugees still hiding in the hills and forest.  All are the bodies   of ordinary people, dressed in the poor, ugly clorhing of workers. Of the 31   we saw only one policeman and two apparent national volunteers were wearing   uniform.  All the rest were civilians, including eight women and three small  children. Two groups, apparently families, had fallen together, the children   cradled in the women's arms.  Several of them, including one small girl, had   terrible head injuries: only her face was left. Survivors have told how they   saw Armenians shooting them point blank as they lay on the ground."  Anatol Lieven  The Times (London), 3/3/92  Karabagh Survivors Flee to Mountains:  "Geyush Gassanov, the deputy mayor of Khocaly, said that Armenian troops   surrounded the town after 7 pm on Tuesday. They were accompanied by six   or seven light tanks and armoured carriers.  'We thought they would just   bombard the village, as they had in the past, and then retreat.  But they   attacked, and our defence force couldn't do anything against their tanks.'    Other survivors described how they had been fired on repeatedly on their   way through the mountains to safety. 'For two days we crawled most of the   way to avoid gunfire,' Sukru Aslanov said.  His daughter was killed in the   battle for Khodjaly, and his brother and son died on the road."  Anatol Lieven  The Times (London), 3/3/92  Corpses Litter Hills in Karabagh:  "As we swooped low over the snow covered hills of Nagorno-Karabagh we saw   the scattered corpses. Apparently, the refugees had been shot down as   they ran...Suddenly there was a thump...[our Azerbaijani helicopter] had   been fired on from an Armenian anti-aircraft post..."  Anatol Lieven  The Times (London), 3/4/92  "Police in western Azerbaijan said they had recovered the bodies of   120 Azerbaijanis killed as they fled an Armenian assault in the   disputed enclave of Nagorno-Karabagh and said they were blocked from   recovering more bodies."  The Wall Street Journal, 3/4/92  Exiting Troops Attacked in Nagorno-Karabagh:  "Withdrawal halted;  Armenians Blamed...  More video footage and reports from Khocaly paint a grim picture of   widespread civilian deaths and mutilation...  One woman's feet appeared to have been bound..."  Paul Quinn-Judge  The Boston Globe, 3/4/92  Serdar Argic