In article <1993Apr15.174657.6176@news.uiowa.edu>, mau@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Mau Napoleon) writes: > From article <1993Apr15.092101@IASTATE.EDU>, by tankut@IASTATE.EDU (Sabri T Atan): > > Well, Panos, Mr. Tamamidis?, the way you put it it is only the Turks > > who bear the responsibility of the things happening today. That is hard to > > believe for somebody trying to be objective. > > When it comes to conflicts like our countries having you cannot > > blame one side only, there always are bad guys on both sides. > > What were you doing on Anatolia after the WW1 anyway? > > Do you think it was your right to be there? >  > There were a couple millions of Greeks living in Asia Minor until 1923. > Someone had to protect them. If not us who?? >  > > I am not saying that conflicts started with that. It is only > > not one side being the aggressive and the ither always suffering. > > It is sad that we (both) still are not trying to compromise. > > I remember the action of the Turkish government by removing the > > visa requirement for greeks to come to Turkey. I thought it > > was a positive attempt to make the relations better. > >  > Compromise on what, the invasion of Cyprus, the involment of Turkey in > Greek politics, the refusal of Turkey to accept 12 miles of territorial > waters as stated by international law, the properties of the Greeks of  > Konstantinople, the ownership of the islands in the Greek lake,sorry, Aegean. >  > There are some things on which there can not be a compromise. >  >  > > The Greeks I mentioned who wouldn't talk to me are educated > > people. They have never met me but they know! I am bad person > > because I am from Turkey. Politics is not my business, and it is > > not the business of most of the Turks. When it comes to individuals  > > why the hatred? >  > Any person who supports the policies of the Turkish goverment directly or > indirecly is a "bad" person. > It is not your nationality that makes you bad, it is your support of the > actions of your goverment that make you "bad". > People do not hate you because of who you are but because of what you > are. You are a supporter of the policies of the Turkish goverment and > as a such you must pay the price. >  > > So that makes me think that there is some kind of > > brainwashing going on in Greece. After all why would an educated person  > > treat every person from a nation the same way? can you tell me about your  > > history books and things you learn about Greek-Turkish > > encounters during your schooling.  > > take it easy!  > >  > > -- > > Tankut Atan > > tankut@iastate.edu > >  > > "Achtung, baby!" >  > You do not need brainwashing to turn people against the Turks. Just talk to > Greeks, Arabs, Slavs, Kurds and all other people who had the luck to be under > Turkish occupation. > They will talk to you about murders,rapes,distruction. >  > You do not learn about Turks from history books, you learn about them from > people who experienced first hand Turkish friendliness. >  > Napoleon   Well, Napoleon. It is your kind of people who are preventing peace  on the world. First of all, you didn't answer the question I asked at the end of my posting. And then you told me some bullshit throughout your posting which had no positive point about the issue, filled with hatred, and filled with emotions. Why am I doing this? Forget it, I don't think you are worth it to discuss the issue.    -- Tankut Atan tankut@iastate.edu