you could uh drive a stake in fairly easy and and get the thing nailed down but that's usually a little windy on a lake edge and uh the very first time we went up there with this group of people we all set up these tents most of which were borrowed and we were having to figure out you know how this particular one works and how this one works and it's eleven o'clock at night and it's you know by the head lights of the cars and
Near the lake's edge it can be a little bit too windy to drive the stake in.