i have just pointed out that milbourneone is guilty it would seem to wp civil against me too for the following direct rudeness a rudeness insults name calling gross profanity or indecent suggestions b personal attacks including racial ethnic sexual and religious slurs and derogatory references to groups such as social classes or nationalities c ill considered accusations of impropriety d belittling a fellow editor including the use of judgmental edit summaries or talk page posts e g snipped rambling crap that is the stupidest thing i have ever seen i refer to refs of you stating letter written by myself was of such poor quality as to be hardly readable so when considering pointing out wp civil to others please look at your own writings and realise that you are not exempt from the same criticism with respect truthseekers talk