thank you for your input but i don't believe your summary is an accurate representation of that consensus it's also very unhelpful to bring phrases like prove you wrong during consensus building for the bajillionth time this is not a battleground treating it as such only gives credibility to the impression that you're simply here asserting an ideological perspective rather than trying to improve articles within policy i'm not sure what the point of this section is i noted very early on that the proposed addition is inappropriate in its current form beyond that there is no point in trying to make a blanket assertion that media matters is not a reliable source it's incorrect but more to the point it's moot see the sentence immediately preceding this one eof blaxthos t c