if anyone really wants an administrator to read through diffs of past arguments and administer any appropriate scoldings then i will do it right now i am still having a little trouble finding the exact edits that are being complained about so everyone would have to be more specific but at this point i would much rather if we can draw a veil over past quarrel and all resolve to be civil and avoid personal attacks from this point forward scorpion it's particularly unhelpful for you to make a personal attack otto just needs to grow up in the discussion about not making personal attacks i hope i don't ever see that again