i completely agree of course as i noted during the afd discussion however i think the bayreuth circle article since it is staying for now could be replaced with a few sentences such as i introduced and one might ask editors from the wagner and related pages to weigh in as well should a group of informed editors arrive at consensus that would likely be sufficient to replace the current ridiculous content maybe i should let it go it's a minor issue but it is annoying btw the extent and quality of your contributions is ausgezeichnet have you been approached about becoming an admin