re winans family i fully understand your concerns about the new user but i think if we send him her a message they'll understand i mean the article is geared towards the musical family i could understand if matthew was one of the winans kids but he's their third cousin or something like that honestly he just isnt pertinent to the article as for the npov statement the main problem were statements like his love and passion is basketball which make it sound more like an advertisement granted this only occured once or twice but nonetheless its there also theres way too much information on him here more than the actual winans family are given granted many of them have their own pages why dont we just make matthew his own page and then under the trivia section say the winans are cousins of basketball player matthew winans i think thats the best compromise what do you think best wishes