a long block my fat arse you are failing to take into account how long it has taken to get to the point of banning sceptre from manning actually i'm talking from the future as the ban hasn't yet been decided has it consider that time and the dispersal and my extrapolation stands perfect if you don't believe me wait years and see the crap becomes compounded woven into the fabric of the project and becomes inseparable bah i'm explaining kaleidoscopes to the blind jun utc