i think you are dead on with the re write now that you mention it the big three was bothering me for the same reason and i did not realize it until you said something now if we can get dmorpheus to sign off on it i think we will be ok it seems to me that we have to include the relibility issue somewhere in the article in order to insure balance somewhere i have an ordnance dept analysis of a t that they tested the reliability of the drive train was terrible with the engine lasting only a few hours before it went kaput i'll try to find it but don't bet that i do because i can't seem to find anything anymore