i'm the one who figured this out and i should be credited rightly which is my point i dont care about the insertion of the book i want credit where credit is due this is one of the greatest mysteries in mixed drinks but dismiss this and add websites this would anger anyone especially someone who already has known this for years and nobody listens even when its shown to you right in your face you still deny it these systems and guidelines strip bartenders of their abilities to educate patrons which is the ultimate goal as an industry we have enough issues and corals among eachother over recipes procedures guidelines techniques etc the last thing we need is some patron qouting some website they are reading from wikipedia about how i should make their old fashioned these articles cause the industry alot of unnecessary heartache please help me resolve these issues i encourage you