okay i'm not figuring out the problem with these tips alone i'm gonna try an idea that i had i'm gonna put the twilight princess picture that it looks like we want back as the lead picture if it's reverted it will show up on the page history and i can get in contact with the reverter the theory is that whoever removes the picture will know what is wrong with it i'll ask what his problem with it is then we can fix it if possible the only possible hitch is if the revert is done by an ip address that we can't contact easily i'm off to give it a go cross your fingers