its true ive been insulted called names such as a snivelling little dog and been talked down to by some other members and some other things and they certainly seem to make out that they have an advantage over new users i do keep neutral as ive learnt when i created and edited many articles but i do feel that the flags should be kept as a mere sign of respect and also since it will make it easier to sort out and see what countries they pledged allegience for not where they were nessarially born ive now changed it from country to allegience and like i said they have the flags for ww vets page and also the world cup page so come on and im not really intending to be rude as you seem to make out since if i didnt do anything then id get trampled on like they say he who stays in his defences is beaten napoleon same case here i had to fight tooth and nail to keep my case in some of those articles and edits intact many of which they did eventually change their minds and it may give that impression to you but i can assure you i read every message i get even if it doesnt look that way and i reply or act as i see fit