johnbod i'm unclear as to what you're complaining about what specifically is the pov that you see here i originally would have agreed with haldraper but i think it's not quite so cut and dried as liberal land reformers against oligarchical private landowners and the church as a landowner sometimes the regimes targeted all the land owners secular and clerical other times they targeted just the church the church was not only targeted because it owned land but because they controlled all aspects of society i e from marriage to baptism to last rites and burial on church grounds secular reformers saw this as a stranglehold whereby the church could get anything it wanted not just from owning land but by controlling who could marry have a legitimate child or even die within the church the church was also targeted because it tended to support the landowners in a conservative alliance finally the church was targeted by a number of revolutionary regimes because it had supported the spanish monarchy against the rebels you can't really blame them but it doesn't help to have supported losing side