so i had another go this weekend and i remembered some of your advice d i was pleased with how some of them came out tbh since you had such a helpful review last time i thought it would be wise to ask you again green and see if i'm on the right track personally i like the jordan and dean smith ones myself but you can find the rest of the images i've uploaded on the relevant commons category the other odd pictures i took during the weekend are on my flickr account talk edits