alternative judaism zain i think that alternative judaism is a good place to put the disclaimer about other religious groups that claim they are jews but i do think it is worth looking at the links a bit further since i think you might have misread some of them also remember that there is a difference between claiming descent from the israelites and actually claiming to be practicing judaism here are the links you keep using to illustrate your points and that you added to the article anglo israelism never claimed to be jews they claim that the english are the descendents of the lost tribes of israelites nowhere on their site do they claim to be jewish or practicing judaism i do not think there is a good argument that these people are jews in any way they can and are identified in the ten lost tribes article christian identity weird choice they hate jews look at the text of the article where they explicitly condemn judaism as evil certainly not an alternative form of judaism nor are they jews talmidaism a subset of christianity or possibly messianic judaism which is already in the article nazarene a subset of messianic judaism which is already in the article messianic judaism already in the article that you edited judaizing teachers refers to a movement of early christians not a current group this is like including jews harp in the list it is a reference to a historical label not a religion jews for jesus already in the article that you edited messianic renewed judaism a minor subset of messianic judaism lost ten tribes not a religion but another good place to put these sort of links british israel world federation see anglo israelism i am open to discussion on these but do read through the article first do you agree or disagree with these points it would be good to get this resolved jan utc