unfortunately by all accounts china is a communist state you may like that term but the definition of that term which is much more readily apparent than your suggested terms and its use in this case is not controversial regardless our four opinions have been clearly stated so we should either act on them or wait for new voices i don't see us progressing beyond our current standoff if nova will not accept laurent's proposed compromise which i will reluctantly agree to if it says communist state despite the fact that it gives equal prominence to fringe views on the subject