a few points all cabals are bad ideas if you want something done find a taskforce or create a workforce we are dealing w admins the mfd might be snowballed i'd like to see proof that there is proof or isn't perhaps scanning the users' contribs for any edit summary mention of the cabal i'm in so much wikitrouble now that a if i get in anymore i might be blocked b i really couldn't care less if i did i won't nom it but i'll support deletion as goes for all those other cabals out there you can weigh these and make your decision of what to do choose wisely and let the wikiforce be w you basketball '''''' tell me yours