please stop threatening you're throwing weight around in a way that mixes your admin power with that of a user elevating your opinion above that of others you have no right to do so do you think you're better than me if so you're wrong please stop addressing me as a child because you're an admin when i freely unilaterally removed the entire expose of owb as a plagiarist was it relevant to the article and important to post temporarily it absolutely was because he was attempting to use his external article to gain pov power and he has been about as disruptive to the article as anybody could be that he still claims he didn't claim a single sentence of the article as his own work shows quite clearly what you're dealing with however because he's not an overt vandal his hand is held indefinitely enough have you considered the damage done by treating two different people as equally at fault in a given situation i have noticed this before from you directly katefan and i'd appreciate it very much if you would at least examine it once more if you have already the result is the discouragement of wikipedia's biggest asset editors who leave material that will last i am not your inferior so please don't treat me as such if you want to spend hours creating and encouraging editors who bring us things such as this with a dedication page no less then imo you're misguided in any case i doubt quite strongly that you realize the effect of blasting into a situation announcing however subtly you're an admin and then acting as though you're just there to edit that is not how it works whether you realize it your introductions are often launched to establish passive aggressive superiority i'll say it again you are not my superior you have admin power here and are not a better editor than i am please halt with the admin intimidation for issues that if intervention were to be helpful require the intervention of somebody who at least acts sincerely as an equal not a parent why is that so difficult for admins to understand i know why but maybe you can give it a think if you doubt the subtle influence of your position as an admin look no further than owb's obsequiousness on your talk page users know what the score is i'm not going to play and i've demonstrated repeatedly that my article editing here at wikipedia is in the top layer i'm quite aware that many don't agree with my philosophy of human action and wikipedia's future i e that encouraging disrupters and discouraging producers is a vacant policy but i'm going to push it as far as it will go it my theory begins by refusing to allow vandalistic interference in my comments that's not necessarily something you couldn't support katefan you know good editors could use the support of admins far from the blitz onto the scene method where habitual disrupters and habitually superior editors are then treated as equal entities with fresh start mantras no it's not the first time i've seen that from you katefan and an everybody's contributing equally approach that does nothing but swat the hands of editors who've fought sometimes alone and for days to preserve article integrity doesn't work with children nor with adults you're treating as children the presumption of theoretical equality of action when arriving on the scene is probably the biggest mistake admins make here yes my objection to your fresh start approach on the b c discussion page is quite serious i don't believe that you should continue further in the facade of being an objective normal editor on the page you have set yourself up as everybody's superior and such an approach was not necessary why not let things sort themselves out a bit did you notice i bowed out after removing hundreds of my words did you notice that things were slowly improving without you did you notice that somebody else wouldn't bow out did you notice that i didn't immediately gut his atrocious frank hamer article as would have been well within the bounds of wikipedia policy if not why are you even pretending to help there are healthier methods of dispute resolution than dispute denial they may not seem as touchy feely at first but the results are longer lasting and ultimately far more respectful owb needed to face what he faced there and wikipedia and owb will be better off if this process isn't pretended away you said something about i don't know what went on with you two really all that went on was utterly public i've had no private comm with owb so if you don't know what went on then you didn't pay attention if you're not paying attention maybe you might consider stepping back and not jangling your admin keys so readily i doubt what i've written here will make any difference but i figu