oooh you're wrong you're wrong you're wrong why am i not impressed by your 'debate skills' first until weeks ago i had never heard the term meat puppet perhaps you're trying to make the term mean exactly what you want it to mean no more and no less shades of alice in wonderland i suppose i will have to find the definition of that term but i view it as a problem when self selected biased individuals even if there is no actual coordination involved seem to coordinate their postings dodo ran away that's a fact he didn't address my actual criticisms of his actions he simply threw a few templates as if that was the end of the argument but those templates were not merely mis applied they also did not address the entire subjects of the dispute dodo couldn't be bothered to address them and for a 'good' at least for him reason if dodo had to actually discuss his misconduct and debate the propriety not merely of the original post but also his own misdeeds then dodo would be so busy he couldn't continue his 'drive by reversions' of peoples' articles dodo was unwilling to explain why he deleted all of my edits repeatedly he was unwilling to explain why he didn't wait for consensus etc and it is a fact that 'nobody' addressed dodo's at least arguable misconduct even if hypothetically they also objected to something i did too why should that be there's an 'excellent' reason i think the kind of people who did post self selected of course one would expect may very well have felt they were defending 'one of their own' i repeat my point that if i had time and access to reversion deletion statistics it would probably be obvious that those persons who felt the need to speak up generally engaged in a pattern of activity similar to that of dodo revert revert revert and not to bother with any 'consensus' we don't need no stinkin' consensus such persons would be fearful of 'outing' dodo's pattern of action and similarly fearful of someday being hit with similar criticism am i wrong i invite somebody else to study their statistics and explain why there's no 'pattern' there