copied from my talk page as no login no watchlist so you may not have seen my reply otherwise have to agree about bryan's poor managerial stats although i haven't verified them yet as an aside i noticed from here that bobby robson was once england b coach seemingly around which i thought you might want to mention in the article it seems quite relevant especially as he went on to pick some of the same players at full international level i'd be happy to add it in myself but thought you might have some additional supporting material in books etc that would put it in context cheers