dude generally speaking this has grown beyond that i'm not sure to me it just was suspicious that the numbers clearly contradicted themselves and thus were in fact not reliable but other unreliable sources from seperatists were not accepted i suggested to gloucester how at least the issue of whether or not the speratists or the ukranians broke the deal concerning peaceful withdrawl could be researched objectively but he wasn't interested saying that he is only interested in reposting things from reliable sources in this case unreliable this was in relation to a post of mine here that got deleted concerning this specific post i'm not even sure what the seperatist are claiming atm but imo it should be added anyway every death in this sad war is a sad death