sich riflemen urainian sich riflemen ukranian socutss hi chris i am responding to ensure clarification in this matter ukrainian sich riflemen refers to a unit of the hungarian army sich riflemen refers to events when some of the the unit went to kyiv and started a different group by absorbing local fighters and the youth organisation as you can see these are military units or at least para military and so are not really related to the scouting movement more related to the military term scout someone who knows a lot about the local area and is used for forwards observation these scout units established in europe during the first part of the th century were not really akin to the modern day scout units they were paramilitary units designed for living off the land and defending the homeland during times of war or invasion it may be that you are wishing to start a ukranian scouts page to support the modern day scouting movement since the fall of the ussr there is not one so if that was your wish i am sure that would be ok i am intending to remove the suggested merge tags and may i suggest that the scout project discuss removing their tags from the pages to avoid confusion for now sorry if this makes it more complicated