i hate to break it to you but being a mother tongue speaker of south african english doesn't give you any more credibility than anyone else friend just because you speak a language or dialect doesn't mean you know shit about it you don't have to know anything about a language to be able to speak it obviously so i don't even know why you mentioned that language articles on wikipedia are about l varieties only really what about hong kong english indian english malaysian english etc i take offence at your spelling of the word offense you're fucking retarted and hopeless i don't want to waste my time with you anymore when you present someone with the truth and he happily decides to remain ignorant there's nothing you can do i'm referring to you by the way