i'm not active nor interested in helping this site anymore but as of the day of the posting both publishers had lists of books on webscriptions further i phoned arnold and made some direct queries to make sure i had things straight some around here might consider that as or but the facts are right or were haven't been there in what something around or over a year iirc so from my point of view consider it a with that as the accessdate field with backup arnold was also listing a couple of much smaller publishers as well so i may make a rare joke in content when the random circumstances align but not at the expense of a point of fact i'm well over articles edited so i'm hardly into making things up arnold bailey owner operator webscriptions is an independent of baen businessman in the south somewhereone of the carolina's baen is a nyc region publisher why would you assume a businessman isn't trying to improve his sales by increasing product carried floor trade etc nkb