yeah i admit my style of commenting these days isn't going to win me any friends but years of politeness and trying to calmly talk through things didn't get me anything either well it got me repeatedly insulted and the community let them get away with it so i guess that's something its pretty clear at this point that no one is going o do anything about admin abuse or abusive editors like bmk no matter how nice so the only way is to be not nice and take a bullet for the project