until someone gets the info about all these other investors and posts it doesn't it make sense to list the investors we do know of isn't bin laden worth mentioning let's not let the limited information on carlyle's investors stop us from providing the info we do have because we're trying to maintain npov particularly when the information is clearly compelling relevant to understanding at least one view of carlyle group and possibly meaningful the weasel words and the original research warnings are not necessary at least for the controversy section and i changed some of the weasel words in the controversy section although the meaning remains largely the same how else are we to provide the information which is pertinent about how an issue or thing is perceived by people