hi gaff thanks for the reply i certainly agree that there's reasonably the potential for a conflict of interest since i am a family member since my goal is to create a wiki entry for our business that was accurate and which follows wiki protocol i hope that i will be able to demonstrate appropriate objectivity and would appreciate your continuing feedback to that point thank you for linking to the gng coi pieces i will read them shortly as well i will provide all possible references also in trying to upload a logo i've learned that i lack that ability at the moment the wizard suggested i ask someone for help are you able to provide that kind of assistance if so here's a url for you thanks again