this is getting really tiresome as i have already said many times before no it is frankly not true that if you dedicated the amount of time to articles that you do to sniping at other editors and based on the knowledge you claim to have there would be some greatly improved articles i estimate it would take at least hours to write an article on a large operator like london northern using all the proper issue numbers and isbn numbers by contrast i've expended at most hours criticising the actions of all the people who wish to see articles like nibs and nu venture deleted because they personally don't know anything about the companies and don't know where to look for the issue numbers isbn numbers in that light instead of whining and bitching to me why don't you demonstrate in some way that it would actually be worth my while doing anything for wikipedia where articles can be deleted on a whim by people like dave simply because they can't find any information about them in a second google search and don't know where to look for sources in the print media do you want to tell me why i or anyone else for that matter should be putting in several hours work into wikipedia to write articles when all dave has to do is type a few words to get the very same articles deleted and nobody will spend even a second figuring out if he's in any position to be judging them at all