missing the forest i just have to add a comment to this talk page in light of the ongoing struggle over administrator priviledge and userboxes i try hard to assume good faith and i certainly would like to have the same assumed of my actions having contributed a number of userboxes and finding them deleted without notice i was confused upon digging deeper i saw that the problem was much more serious that a few templates being deleted out of process there are a number of admins that seem to think that they have the right to dictate to the masses what is and is not acceptable content in the user space this is wrong user space is where wikipedians are allowed to express their pov personal convictions and interests admins do have a responsibility to wikipedia but first and foremost it should be recognized that wikipedia only exists because of wikipedians actions such as mass purges mass deletions and mass edits without explanation are basically the most disruptive possible avenue available in the grand scheme of things userboxes are basically unimportant but they have become the most critical issue on the wikipedia at present because they have been attacked by administrators without comment or explanation outside of process and with no regard for the impact this has on the community i am unhappy with your part in this tony and i expected better i feel that admins should learn from their mistakes and the mistakes of others but i am afraid i see these being repeated if you feel you have the right then you are welcome to exercise it but you will destroy the wikipedia if you destroy the desire of wikipedians to participate i think you should take some time to admire the forest before you start chopping down the trees that others have planted with love