french academy hi espoo i got your link after the rm discussion had already been closed as a no consensus i can see why you find it frustrating the guideline says that if an english language name is in common use then we should use it i'm mildly surprised to see that french academy is used as widely as your sources show it to be personally i've only ever heard it called the academie francaise with or without diacritics and i grew up in texas nevertheless my personal anecdotal experience means nothing when it comes to making decisions for the encyclopedia it does seem to be the case that most people in that discussion were willing to discount wikipedia naming conventions use english in this case why not bring it up there on the guideline talk page i'll bet that's a good place to find people who care about that guideline as well as people who've dealt with similar controversial cases in the past i've added the guideline to my watchlist i'll keep an eye out for what kind of response you get there if acad mie fran aise is to be an exception to the use english guideline then i think it should be explained why it is and how to recognize such exceptions in the future