of course i'm not going to speak on behalf of truthseeker but anyone wondering about the claims of illogical arguments that have been legitimately debunked should read the talk pages where that is not a unanimous assertion by any means as to intellectual honesty one shouldn't forget that eds bs was allowed to flounder in the article for days while ts's verifiable edits were deleted immediately i think that was the point of this sock episode after all as to hypocrisy truthseeker was not in the same league as others including administrators for violating npa rr nor civil but no one else was cited for that