i'm not using jabs or insults of any kind greek centric means centered on greece or concerns relating thereto that's an accurate description of the view that things relating to greece use words in english derived from greek language hellas on the basis that greeks themselves prefer this term if this were a discussion about germans wanting everything about germany to use deutsche in english too that would be a german centric concern i a a concern centered on germany germans and their preferences nb i actually know germans who insist that we should stop saying german and germany and that the spanish should stop using alem n and everyone use deutsche and deutschland so no it is not a red herring fallacy at all but a comparison chosen carefully though not carefully enough see a bit later your own counter however is a straw man fallacy no one said anything about transliterating vs not transliterating so the argument is a complete non sequitur i do agree that hellenic is an english word and concede the point that the deutsche comparison wasn't very apt after all i was focused more on the situational than linguistic similarity when i chose it a better example would be expecting our articles about japan and the japanese to use nippon and nipponese to better match the native name of the country these are in fact words in english it would actually make sense to do that than to do what's been proposed here because nipponese has no confusing alternative meaning unlike hellenic which commonly probably commonly refers to ancient greek culture in english not modern