we cant bargain like that we do what we think is right on each individual article each decision needs to be made on the merits of each individual argument i dont know what i think about tactical victory yet id like to see some sources that come closer to saying that i am wary of calling this simply a military confrontation i am not opposed to something saying that in the military confrontations that took place during the intifada israel was successful militarily how that translates to giving a victory in the intifada as a whole i dont quite accept lets get the sources worked out and go from there ill look for sources myself you do the same but in the meantime i have problems with the sources currently cited do you dispute my notes for those sources if not would you remove them nableezy