first i will be civil as long as you're civil to me so far you're the one who shot the first volley when you called me fanboy in kind i had no choice but to shoot it back to you all's fair in love and war second i will counter your points with authentic references of my own which i will post for evidence that backs up my argument about punk's distinction when i do you better not remove them pursuant to wiki's policy doing so will reveal you as a hypocrite with all due respect lastly and again with all due respect you are not an appropriate source for information regarding punk if you fail to realize that punk and grunge have far less in common that punk is in a class all its own and was not influenced by 's garage rock whatever that means and that your personal taste precludes me as a credible source from my long personal experience in the punk industry then you cannot be allowed to further bend punk history to your personal liking to recap i will provide adequate references do not edit the article back to its original falsehood when i do since i will have furnished you with proof references