august utc i disagree by which i mean that when you tell me that i will more often than not find the db casually defined as a member of the violin family i have not found this to be true people i know casually and not so casually define it as a member of the strings and bassists i know are pointed about the fact that they aren't part of the violin family if i had not found this to be the case i would never have postulated that the phrase modern violin family originated in wikipedia so now we need some bit of research or some several citations in which professional musicians and or musicologists refer to the double bass as part of the modern violin family