rm for yom kippur war thanks for the note frankly it's a waste of time the pov you are opposing is so entrenched here as to be considered neutral those who hold it simply can't see that it is a pov at all i noticed that mark pellegrini raul has mischaracterised me which is something he does with his enemies so i put him straight and left some comments for the usual suspects but that's all i think it's worth you just can't change those people's minds and they will outnumber any support you are able to get they don't feel any dissonance in their views and even pointing it out to them carefully doesn't work