by the way saedon's recent participation in this article is most likely due to the fact that i made edits on an article that he also so happens to be working on if not some strange coincidence it is very likely that it was a result of going through my user contributions page i could say similar things about one other editor so i thought maybe that is the reason why these edit wars are getting so big just a hypothesis for now if you agree back me up on it thanks '''' expert sectioneer'' of wikipedia karma talk