i don't know i've just finished watching the film casino in which poor robert de niro is required to wear a shiny sky blue suit and matching loafers i have also heard on good authority of a kazakh man who worked for a well known firm of city solicitors and who wore a purple polyester suit without having it cleaned for months bertie wooster had a pair of old etonian spats the point being that the clothes that we find ludicrous think also of the americans' liking for pastel coats and golf clothing do not in themselves define someone as being a fop there should surely be something outrageous and perhaps effeminate about a fop which distinguishes him from a dandy who is just a well dressed man frankly if you are buying off the peg clothes i don't see how you can begin to qualify because you lack the originality required talk