um huh my alternate account is for use when i'm not at home because at home is the only secure place where i trust being logged into that admin account when i am at work or elsewhere i log into my alternate account i've already been accused of choosing to not participate in the case are you therefore suggesting that i refrain from participating until i'm back at home that seems counterproductive and counterintuitive now that i'm actually available with wikipedia actually being accessible to me the panda