are you forgetting risker that it was i that embraced giano's plan to get vk unblocked and presented it to the community it was he and i that did most of the work drafting the conditions it was my continuing interest that helped get him back to a position where he can edit vk and giano were more than happy to have my input when he thought it would get him unblocked but now the conditions are not to vk's liking despite what he agreed at the time suddenly the accusations against me start again what is really sad is that you seem to buy into it i strongly resent your implication that i want him banned i supported a ban in the past true along with many other editors but the accusation makes absolutely no sense considering how was already banned twice and both times i worked to get it lifted this despite some atrocious personal abuse from vk in the past so i'll tell you what i may not forget how editors responded to me but i don't hold it against them to the detriment of the project et