oh the copyediting thing is easy there is a guild of copyeditors a wikiproject of them look for that they have a picture up on the wall of me with the caption 'the reasun for our existance' on account of i never get the ' in the right place for it's or its or whatever it is let me have a bit of a look at where you two are going wrong in those discussions i've got ten things i'm doing now but seriously i can see two editors here who can get along easy enough i wonder if you be able to think of one thing that you can do to make eddaido's editing life a bit easier and i know he can suggest one thing he can do to make yours easier just name one thing or a few if you like just so i know that you can think of ideas by yourselves each of you because seriously this looks like pretty simple stuff here although i will have a look at it in a little while and see what i can spot if you two haven't already named a few things jul utc