july utc nice try smyth but all the history of discussion is right here and in the archives for anyone to see we all think your subjective opinion piece is among the worst introduction written for any article on wikipedia we all demand an objective definition and have suggested dozens yet you and your sockpuppets play this little game of confusion and misdirection until people get frustrated and stop trying i can understand why you would war edit instead of helping us find an amicable resolution if you were getting paid so i sure hope you are zephram stark