sorry i went to the right page and provided an explanation there and above here in this talk page i thought maybe it didn't get saved but the tag didn't look the way i thought it was going to look i just wanted the graphic tag not the whole page i used didn't work the way i thought it was working i'm trying to find the right tag the explanation is in the talk page i thought i'll look for the right link to it i've run out of time for this and i'm very tired at this point so i don't know how soon i can find what is needed nyscholar