well pktm i am perfectly willing to have a civil discussion on it as i feel we are doing all of my past reverts have contained this information from lostpedia the information is not solely from that site it is also from this one i have created a solution to this discussion the wonderful thing about wikipedia is that these changes can always be removed if a concensus is not reached as the current concensus is at a stalemate i have taken the appropriate actions i am in discussions with regards to the possible copyright infringement but seeing as lostpedia currently has no copyright guidelines i agree this may take some time i apologise if you feel that this solution is creating more problems but it was not my intention to create them however i feel that my creation of this new page is an amecable solution with regards to both points of the current discussion