wikipedia articles for deletion cheongye kwan your post at the above afd on a new martial art bothers me this was the version at the time that you based your post on you posted i just read the article and to be quite honest feel that it does satisfy wikipedia's guidelines it is reliably sourced since i believe the notability of the article is satisfied it now has independent sources and to refute the argument posed by wayne it is determined by the phillip rhee source that the martial arts is not localised please consider the concerns this post raises simple matters like references notability and noobie basics of afds should be routine for any moderately experienced user and bread and butter for any admin in fact a cursory check shows that almost everything you stated was i don't have a word for it unreal is close the eleven independent sources that you stated established notability and non localization at the time were three references from coates robinson shaw certainly before the topic even existed and all related to a passing piece of news about its founder being on the team of a completely different sport in any event two references from st half davies white almost certainly identical and identically irrelevant to the topic's notability the promoter's personal page on his local town website almost certainly self published official village website a casual interview in a non notable and possibly non reliable university magazine apparently of the promoter's travels to see experts in a different sport with tangential tiny sentence mention that he'd discussed his new sport with them too the lau philip la interview entries marked reference and support of written reference chris cook rhee obviously a request by the founder to a friend colleague write a letter of support that was never published anyway and isn't cited so you can't have read it not that it was even possibly valid evidence a short writeup of a local information kind on the award of the first black belts by the school in its local paper in brief of the were before the sport existed and were not even remotely to do with the topic itself much less sourced material on it or substantial coverage they had precisely zero coverage were claims of personal i think is a great guy letters of support evidently solicited and or written on request with zero evidence of verifiable existence and certainly in no way reliably sourced or independent was self written was the briefest of non mentions in a non reliable source pretty much i discussed the topic with them in a college magazine interview is local press coverage of his courses that's not even news for a day or evidence of anything beyond a course by this name is taught twice weekly in our local village hall your assessment of these at afd was it is reliably sourced style border c c c solid px width there is barely one reliable source in all of those that the sport even exists in the first place a local newspaper mention that it meets in a village hall on tuesdays and fridays and just awarded its first black belts probably via self promotional input there is zero reliable sourcing for any of the rest that the cited pages are evidence of notability style border c c c solid px width they don't mention it or even date from a time the topic existed nor are online versions provided how on earth could they reliably evidence it that the sources are independent style border c c c solid px width are claims that please support me letters exist they are even stated to be personal references unpublished and uncited is his own clearly self written web page on a local village web host that the cites show it is non localized style border c c c solid px width the page doesn't list a link so you can't have checked the cite yet you say the citation proves it the reference openly stated cambridge university and bristol taekwando a big indication of its actual source when a link was provided on request it turns out it'