hello german friend thank you for confirming my count my count is year by year ' laver gonzales includes scarborough ' ' ' ' ' ' this gives laver a edge the only ntl event i have not seen the full draw for in ' is laver's win at orlando over rosewall i saw your link to the warehouse talk and i am very pleased that someone has tracked down this extra match at the dutch round robin i use to think this was a man rr but found out it was man with groups of earlier this year there were some upsets at this event with ralston beating rosewall on clay on the results i am slightly suspicious of laver winning twice by the same score at msg once in the man phase and once in the final play off phase jeffreyneave jan