kamnet if you read around wikipedia is full of people who are trying to win wikipedia and would rather police things that they feel are ignorant by acting ignorant themselves if you challenge any of these people who want to shut down your contribution they'll go and get a bunch of others to back it no matter how dumb the reasons are these are called 'clans' or 'guilds' heck you might even get some of those admins who are notorious for abusing their powers in here coughslimvirgincough coughcoughjaygcough damn that cold it's the same reasons why steve juon's bio was taken down black music isn't popular with the old school whip crackers