i have found further evidence related to this big hoax the same user who wrote the sacred order of skull and crescent article and created the pugilist club article you cited is also meddling with the barbaro family page i found numerous inconsistencies with that sosc sacred order of skull and crescent article which he attempted to explain away citing unnamed sources or sources only he claims to have access to he has edited my personal comments on the discussion page of that article in what appears to me to be an attempt to cover his mistakes in the discussion page of his sosc article he has referenced pugilism amelia earhart the wright brothers and a letter by daniel russell to a bro chase a letter which is also cited in his article on the alleged skull and crescent order as being one of their prized artifacts the citing of this letter was the final straw for me i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but when i found that letter quite amazingly and coincidentally while researching theta nu epsilon on ebay of all places it became clear that the article on the sacred order of the skull and crescent was founded mainly if not wholly on this individual's fantasies that letter can still be found on ebay by putting the item number into the ebay search when i casually conronted the author of the sacred order of the skull and crescent wikipedia article with this he initially presented a fantastic notion that perhaps the sosc members were engaging in the ruse of selling their sacred artifacts to themselves in order to make them look worthless when i gave the ebay item number then he quite suddenly and conveniently recalled that oh yes he just remembered that in his unavailable source it says they reprinted copies of this letter for their members and that this must be one of those ultra rare reprints the buyer obviously the author of the skull and crescent article the pugilist club and the bastardizer of the barbaro family page left positive feedback for it any dullard can tell an original hand written letter from a copy if it were a copy negative feedback would have been left then upon looking into the publicly available links to items this same person purchased on the online auction site i found many other fraternity related items as well as amelia earhart wright brothers and pugilism posters now i find the author's wikipedia alias is tiki two well that name is almost exactly what the ebay user who purchased this masonic letter uses i do not know what his motives are but it seems he perhaps in conjunction with associates are building a hoax on wikipedia possibly as members of a fraternity it is possible that he is building a collection of items that he intends to present and cite in articles as important artifacts of secret societies as a relative outsider to wikipedia i don't know what course to take and really don't have the time to find out i mainly enjoy reading wikipedia articles not engaging in what to me is vain online argumentation this individual may find and delete this post but hopefully it will get through to someone at wikipedia who knows what to do wikipedia should not be used to further some publicity stunt or fraternity hoax there is no record anywhere else online of a vitus sebastian barbaro that i can find there is no record anywhere else online of the sacred order of skull and crescent either there is no record of a pugilist club aka fight club at purdue anywhere else online this won't be the only place i send the above information hyper individualist yahoo com july pst