re apologies and suggestions thank you for taking the time to type all that out i am really sorry about this entire situation i truly do not understand why people have made such an issue out of this and it baffles me even more that user kainaw apparently thinks i planned it i do want to reform and at least in my opinion i have reformed i have made every effort to post constructively in the last years i appreciate the points you made and i will try to take them on board with regards to defending ips i won't stop defending ips or anyone for that matter who i feel is being mistreated but i will try and refrain from commenting in those hard to tell situations as you've pointed out it just causes tension and untimely my comments make little difference once some admin has decided they're guilty anyway