i agree you are right yet the definition adopted by wikipedia is the one i gave that requires hydrogen see the wikipedia acid section i do agree that it is not directly in point yet i think it is a very interesting piece of information about the naming of oxygen that in fact hydrogen would have better had the name and it's not too far from the other discussion in the same section about nitrogen and its name and more in point and interesting to me but if you're against it and no one else cares to comment then i'll let it be