disscussions with dmacks oth have understanding difficulty's onemadscientist talk i am talking about your behavior we are all responsible for what we ourselves do even if we feel provoked by others it's a great test of one's strength to recognize when to help raise the level of discussion rather than inflaming tense situations your edits were explicitly written to insult a person rather than as constructive criticism of specific actions and you even said you were trying to undo your previous steps towards repairing the destructive atmosphere here that's all forbidden period no but he said or i'm just proving i was right all along what are your personal intents for being a wikipedia editor if it's to improve wikipedia articles then go do so now and stop wasting everyone's time with discussions about your previous battles if it is anything else including trying to school others in morality or your sense of religious obligation no this website it not for you dmacks talk dmacks well i'am talking about your and plasmic physics's behavior and responsibility around here and maybe this website it not for you you would do well take your own advice dmacks is there not a word for describing the lack of following one's own advice rules which i have been condemned for using oh yes now i remember it is hypocrite and i was beginning to think you had realized your errors in regards to your application of your obligations as a wikipedia morality code enforcer and understood my very significant and valid arguments specifically for now in regards to your choice and the actual definition of what exactly constitutes a personal attack around here and the objectivity by which it is applied and the selective abuse of its application by you in particular you are now bringing up the very important point that i would have very much desired to take up with you in your absence i am sorry i mistook your silence for understanding on your behalf i contend that you have failed miserably in the great test of one's strength to recognize when to help raise the level of discussion rather than inflaming tense situations and should have known better given your display of apparent authority i contend that in this issue with plasmic physics which you had been following from the start at least that after my initial transgressions and subsequent overly profuse apologies was being very polite and civil i was then was the subject of an obvious personal attack from plasmic physics who was my initial accuser in the very first instance again not taking ones own advice his remarks which obviously were explicitly written to insult a person me rather than as constructive criticism of specific actions and contained no factual justification my response contained words and statements that were correctly and appropriately describing with civil english words the facts in relation to nature of his personal attacks on me in my attempt to obtain an apology from him while lacking any support against his attack you decided to label me the transgressor but not him you appear to be very negligent and biased acting in your appointed role here to say the least if not totally malicious i contend that your obviously biased behavior should preclude you from further involvement in any moral code violation disciplinary action let alone this specific one this is for starters in addressing your negative comments about me i hope i have i made this point clear to you now onemadscientist talk i would appreciate and deserve an apology from both of you but i can see that is unlikely if not please don't waste my time any longer with your attempts at trying justify either your or plasma physics transgressions toward me or bother me any longer about this issue and i shall leave you alone and seek others here who deserve my considerate attention it appears that you two obviously should get along well together