july utc i that particular dispute is all but over but i only need to open my wallet to reassure myself what it is but can't remember what colour a euro note as have not seen any for several months if you had visited gibraltar some years ago the currency notes then were indeed 'gibraltar pounds' they are not anymore you might also remember visiting shops and bars that have closed down and been re developed that does not make them real today given the number of people that seem to read my user page perhaps i can sell advertising you might also reflect you have clocked more specific personal attacks than my general comment here about those with a particular agenda i take it in the spirit that you are simply argumentative and as you spend too much time and effort at it must enjoy it but don't worry i'll be back and maybe we can find some common ground to agree on