the following pages should be deleted they do not meet wikipedia crtieria greg baker created by gastrich two links to his church no sources daniel dorim kim created by gastrich list of his education and churches no sources john moseley created by gastrich two books of unknown noterairty one plug for his church mike randall created by gastrich no sources no links james mcgowan created by gastrich one book with no indication of sales one link to ministry no sources charles pack created by gastrich editor of small magazine one link no sources bob cornuke six books of unknown readership no sources jimmy deyoung a mention of a sought after speaker no books no sources thomas ice created by gastrich a long list of books of questionable readership no sources one plug to buy those books grant jeffrey created by gastrich a longer list of books no readership available no sources one plug to buy those books chuck missler created by gastrich books videos no audience numbers plugs to buy those works no objective sources james combs created by gastrich no books no sources one link to lbu neal weaver created by gastrich no books no sources one link to lbu list of lbu people created by gastrich as noted before these people do not meet the criteria for wikipedia living person s biographies unless gastrich can demonstrate how with citations as he has repeatedly refused for example wikipedia expects an author to sell at least copies of a book also explained before good faith with gastrich has been thrown out the window because of talk pages like this it s time to prove it if and only if the pages are kept by the way why are guest speakers on an alumin page pov maybe as for the section if alumni is going to be kept notable alumni should be changed to alumni and the list should be shrunk to carl baugh bill gothard the two sex scandals make him a noterious figure but not notable as well his fascistic views do not keep the list if the list of wikipedia alumni exists it is to the detriment of lbu and becomes pov if people like gothard are on the list it is because of contraversy caused by sex scandals at which point it does nothing to benefit the article on louisiana batpist university there is a link under external links if people wish to read a lbu pov alumni list if the wikipedia gastrich list is kept the link should be deleted because the alumni link is on the home page for interest parties