a sound new policy an island cannot be a nation culture state in itself nor inherently owned by anyone i'm afraid it is simply fascistic to claim land in this way let alone abuse powers to enforce it when another nation covers part of the island in this case the united kingdom it makes it doubly wrong wikipedia needs a clear policy to stop nations from claiming a land article especially when they already have an official article one each you greedy scoundrels one each if you are really into 'history' organise it like everyone else historical 'era' articles simply must be subsets of the official nation article i cannot stress this enough wikipedia should never assert that any nation is a land however long a nation has been associated with it read the papers read about europe read about the blood shed read about the world we simply cannot let this be done but has anyone got the guts to address 'policy' i wonder wikipedia uber alles i don't think so wikimedia ironically owns nothing but its ventures and this inherently right wing 'anarchy wikipedia' is destined to ultimately fall if it has sense and value it will adapt and change instead i'd be obliged if people leave my talk page in peace now i'm switching off my email too it was only open for another issue ps last one of course the word 'country' can mean 'countryside' in an emotive sense but that cannot be a definition regarding groups of people on wikipedia the wikipedia 'top list' should be list of countries sovereign states nations tribes country should always be used as the disambiguator no one gets pushed out of the whole structure then as they do now and they are all admitted to be 'country' connected in some way but is doesn't include any land masses footnotes can be made for cases if needed it simply won't be messier than it is now far from it people need to take up the mantle on all of this there are many people on wikipedia trying to engineer the 'identity mess' on wikipedia to support their nationalistic views at its most negative this is often a 'comparative' matter for them so they often go after other cases causes more than directly push their own the two irelands and the very specific 'constituent countries' of the united kingdom are always on their radar and this crazy disruption over the irelands now has made them stronger without doubt a quick glance at my page watchlist confims that logical consistency leads to stability anarchy like we have now leads to disruption