israeli art students thanks umeboshi yes it has surprised me how quick on the draw and vituperative some folks have been in expunging any reference to the alleged purported apparent israeli espionage as happens in other contexts i think some people conflate criticism of israel with anti semitism or conflate this intentionally the ironic thing is that if all this stuff is true as seems at least worth serious consideration it even reflects well on israel as there is evidence israel warned the us that something big was coming all countries spy to me that's not such a big deal i just want to know about it in this particular case and feel annoyed when any discussion is stifled with extreme prejudice i had not managed to back up that first page which bummed me out for a couple of days but then i found it in google's cache couldn't get the talk page though anyway thanks again for your support i really appreciate it i'm just going to make a final impertinent retort to take a few deep breaths and then let it go for the nonce take care and best wishes to you for christmas and the new year