oh you blocked me did you where were you when scjessey called me dumb a liar and said he wanted to use raid on me on the pd talk page no need to answer shell that was a rhetorical question you've already made your ideology quite clear it really is too bad that the only arbs who've demonstrated one iota of common sense aren't participating on the case ethical people tend to recuse while the unethical refuse to recuse basically admins tend to come in two flavors very few exceptions activist or average in a project like this being average simply doesn't cut it and this is especially true for arbs go go planeteer