also you do indeed semantically insinuate that ean's parent's were guilty of abuse by declining her statement ean's story as a reliable record i don't think barbara proctor would be very happy with you also the entire point behind the proctor case is the way it displays the milieu that wessely and colleagues inhabit a milieu which is simply not acceptable by the majority of the public taking children away from parent's because of what hyde would call a failure of science is severely damaging to wessely's reputation in the public mind please don't quote positive signs of hysteria gould et al laid that one to rest common in most severely brain damaged patients