final word on this yes i thank you for your time in the matter and i know you were trying to help i can see that what i was doing was violating wp point originally the argument was because of the table width which i knew from the beginning was a dumb thing to fight over but i was only thinking of aesthetics she trounced me for it saying that i don't know what i'm doing that she was enforcing mos standards and it was a known problem because the page didn't show up correctly on certain monitor sizes all i wanted was for her to show me where these standards are written and if not that where this issue was being discussed if it's such a big problem of course she couldn't why because they don't exist i called her bluff she knew it and then she acted all innocent like i came out of no where to bully her i got aggressive only after her rude holier than thou tirade started i've had to play this stupid game before with other idiots around here usually they just go away but she wanted to continue talking shit she's just one of those crybabies who think they own the damn place and that kind of attitude pisses me off to no end sorry but that's just me i see bullshit everyday on here and i ignore of it she just happened to rub me the wrong way anyway it's all cool i don't care anymore and is the last i'll talk about it