i really don't think anyone is denying that stalking by groups which includes gangs is a real thing the problem is the use of the term gang stalking by a very small minority to describe a completely different phenomenon one typically involving super secret conspiracies often equipped with high tech psychotronic paranormal weaponry apparently with vast budgets and unlimited manpower targeting ordinary people that these ideas are apparently bizarre and unbelievable by normal standards is not the issue here weird and implausible sounding things like mkultra and plots involving cats with surgically implanted microphones have actually happened it's the lack of evidence that both describes this as a real world phenomenon not just a belief and meets wikipedia's multiple third party reliable sources evidence standards that is the core problem