that is fine but expect that i will cut in to your parts of the article given i have the two paper sources and of course you should feel free to do the same or i can put a summary in my sandbox and you could work from that right now i'm just reviewing and helping out i have nothing prepared after my current facs clear and will probably put in a couple of intensive days to try to finish up macdonald early next week and try to get old john a to pr i have him up to the early s so another decade and then an assessment section i'll start reviewing the nic sources next day or two