and that's why it's not a good idea to run around marking things afd i personally didn't even know these were up for deletion it's not like i need to look at the page on every single day but today i did and it's gone apparently forever until somebody reconstitutes the entire work i wonder how many man hours of effort that were put into these pages just got deep sixed it's pretty clear by this case and many others that the procedure for deletion is tragically broken broken broken