node i want to say sorry if you consider that i say to jose as a personal attack against you it was not my intention still no amount of consensus here would change anything on the uighur or hawaiian wiki so i would suggest to move your argument there it matters either to these wikis or to the meta i have no authorities over these places so you have to go there by yourself on english wiki this argument is empty that does not help to build english language encyclopedic content you welcome to keep civil discussion here but i would not tolerate any incivility here not from you nor from jose