phase two consensus buidling i would say that it is notable that long gave a speech and that speech was covered national for the first time likely under wiki rules that sentace meets guidelines it is npov and it is verfiable i contend it cannot be deleted by a warring editor on his own whim now i say let's discuss whether it should be in the article i think it can be without question i don't think it wise to hold this article to so much scrutinty that no one can edit it without challenge that would be totally wrong so i suggest we move on from notability to real consensus building as to whether it should be in for a lack of a better term let's just call it notable enough is it notable enough to be in there under wiki rules i have said that it is not the most important thing around it is not i understand that others think it may not be but i don't think the case has been made that it is not notable but that good points have been made as to whether is is notable enough comments