wtwilson sorry for the confusion i wasn't looking for help expanding the article i didn't write it i just moved it and i was just worried about the fact that a page of the same name probably about a different person was deleted last month and when i moved the page it created a double redirect from the archived afd discussion i'm still learning my way around and i hadn't been checking what links here i'm checking now also sorry i forgot to sign i'm a cab driver and was being rushed out the door by the dispatcher signing is one thing i learned to do early i just forgot thanks for your time and your help