oh i'm not venting at you so you have no need to apologize i'm just venting at the people who somehow thought these user categories were going to be a good idea without considering how worthless and headache inducing they actually are cfd wastes a lot more time than necessary trying to figure out what the optimal name for any particular user category should be when my personal viewpoint is that they shouldn't exist at all because wp enc tells us wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a social networking site so categories should be used to categorize articles not users