goodbye everybody and what on earth is wrong about this article specially if settet back where it originally belongs i do not accuse people to be socket puppet i do not insult them with harsh and very illustrativ words i do not call their articles for garbage or for saying nothing usefull or for being idiots nor ignorant nor do i pretend that they do not contribute with anything on the talk page and never did nor do i revert other users contributions as ybm and rjb specially and mainly as well as some other new users on the page like maru that night and previous days did and som other users belonging to the same side of the story if i had to be banished for that so had ybm and rjb and maru too and for a much longer period of time and their text to be removed in fact all of them that night as they didn't say much else but cynical and fruitless comments on other people works and destructiv critiscism who wasn't justify i tried more than times to make them come v back to ttheir mind and to sopt healding oil to the fire but it didn't helped they just had too much fun harrassing users all around the talk page unpunished an objectiv analyse of the page will not only take much time but will most certainly show how true what i state here is there is a text that i do not found an article with the copy paste of the writting exchange between me and mister jean pierre voyer where he clearly stated his doing in this affair and his cooperation with ybm in the making of falsification of evidencies and his arrogancy and proudness in doing so added some discrepencies in his words and a major amount of respectlessness and you have the picture of the person behind this all story i also received private mails from a mister rupley who is which is the name of one of ybms' web site with plenty of litteracy of the kind of voyer and with links to luven also an ybms' website of the kind it does not concern the bogdanovs affair but concentrate on the theories who corroborate the making of such a fake story and its justifications in doing so it's a hobby of some sort like some like shakespeare or a special branch of philosophy or politic or a sub for us mostly unknown special branch of a political philosofical opinionated with social ramification kind of organisation touching a very small group of individuals inclosed in their believes there is plenty of the like all over the world their reason for adding to those ideas are those people life and choices which i do respect but in that case those idiosyncrasies thats my own choice of denomination and not theirs are being punched ininto the reality of a lot of people and involved real ideas i think of course about the balancing act of inplanting those high flying ideas to the reality of the thousands of internet users by imposing their vues inthis bogdanov affair by vues i do not mean the apparent version of the fact given by ybm about the validity of the actual thesis no it isn't what it is about it is more complex than that it is about playing with people reactions in a situation of confrontations and playing with lies creating stories ideas like gossips who have no bund in the rality but who will nonetheless create a reaction in the people who are witnessing it at the time and build on further from those reactions and add more and more stuff to keep the tension and the artificial affair going on it might not be as complicated as it sounds to bring those ideas to live as it very quickly get a dynamic of its own who keep repeating itself if some element are implemented along the way it has roll this way for years now and the scenario are pretty much the same from a forum to another one can see the same scenarios coming up the same elements who keep coming back the same strange behaviours at odd time and the same surprising reactions when prooven wrong a war take place fill with denials wild accusations insults personnal attacks anything goes type of scenarios with a lot of drama and tension in it and many people getting injured and leaving too mostly those who came with the unbeatable arguments as i saw it so many times on fr physic from june to november looking at it after without having a part of it give the priviledged view of the whole thing in a very short period of time in one view and here all those flaws are very obvious and it seems estonishing that nobody noticed it at the time the game is very clear that way and it was clear for me that there was something wrong going on something who wasn't right a mismatch and i seek after what it could be it was evident that the main person involved didn't have clean floor in his bag and that he was hidding something but also that he was clearly lying and very good at it very good