i did not say that david ravlin was perfect also when a user put the link to techca up today wafulz immediately took it down and yelled a bit he said he does not want that as a external link today he said it and yelled take offense well that is your privilege if the article were renamed technocracy movement then there would be no net section and that would be fine with me if you look in the files of the beginners page you will see that kolzene spawned net on techca i think he created a silly monster ahh you said that the headquarters is still in the united states that is true sort of the canadian branch though have taken it over did you know that it is illegal for an american corporation to be run out of canada or incorporated in canada did you know that all the people running techinc cordsmeyer and george wright are canadians and did you know that it has been a steady down hill slide for the group since the ttcd faqs material was published in and reedited by kolzene a few years ago and endorsed by cordsmeyer both of whom in my opinion are second or third rate thinkers and what about wiccans you disagree that they in general try to put spells on people manipulate people trick people he claims to be one so i am only stating that this is a far cry from the brilliant minds of the original group sociologists were never a part of the technocracy movement that is the vein of thinking of those mentioned individuals and the source of the disputed material