i see you've met joe thanks for the vandal fighting help on my user page that was joe hazelton a long time vandal who has some kind of personality disorder and loads of free time he's perma blocked so there's no point in reasoning with him and he's not going to take your advice anyway before i blocked him i spent the better part of a year trying to reason with him and couldn't even get him to the point where he could refrain from calling people assholes and posting offensive ascii art the thanks i get is a permanent stalker