the preceding unsigned comment was added by talk contribs my mistake and my apologies what you wrote was so pov that i didn't pay as much attention to the references as perhaps i should they did get restored right and it's not an issue of stupidity it's an issue of consensus several other editors of the article found your wording pov please note that most if not all of us agreed with your basic premise we disagreed only with the way you wrote it as others have pointed out to me plenty of times no one owns a wikipedia article and repeatedly pushing a view even in the face of discussion that suggests that you tone it down generally rubs people the wrong way