still it's clear that wulfila chose a lot of his spelling conventions based on those of greek using to write a long i was certainly one of those conventions and another clear example is using to represent he couldn't have based his choice of on greek because there it was becoming af rather than a long vowel but for he probably was inspired by greek so what sound was in the greek of the time was it higher than or lower the page koine greek phonology shows that both were in fact homophones and had been already for hundreds of years before so if he took those two writing conventions from greek he did not take their pronunciations as they are different in gothic that means that we have to derive the pronunciations of those two vowels from loanwords what letters does wulfila use to substitute for in greek loanwords and what about latin which he no doubt knew as well the latin of the time had and e length distinctions were probably disappearing see vulgar latin so what does wulfila use for these two latin sounds