thank you for the reminder here's one for you what is this about being repeatedly told this is the first time that someone has brought this issue up with me the reason that i place a vote in an afd that i start is because many times folks submit articles for afd out of process rather than because they actually want the article deleted i have done this a number of times in the past which is why i like to make the differentiation is it really a problem to include delete as nom in an afd talk contribs friendly