self aggrandizing pov the phrase 'self aggrandizing' has been removed several times for two reasons it's wp pov pov it's redundant apparently because it's made clear by the rest of the article i'm not sure either of these reasons are valid what pov is the 'self aggrandizing' phrase pushing it doesn't seem to be something either the gnaa's supporters or detractors would disagree with making it unclear whether or not it's pov at all it seems to simply be an indisputable fact evidenced by among many other things the article itself as well as the gnaa's website also if the statement is not pov it can't be said to be inappropriately unbalancing the article by including the pov of one side and not the other that the gnaa are a self aggrandizing group is a simple fact another reason given for the phrase's removal was that it was redundant that might be the case but isn't redundancy not only acceptable but desired in the first paragraph of an article which is generally supposed to act as a summary i'm really not sure why this phrase is causing so much controversy