hans j rg butt hi there jeff al here please please bear with me on this one the personal life section has to be the last section in a sportsperson article because the honours are much more important as those people have an wp article only because of what they have done in their field of sport not because they are married to x or y in another item butt has only now begun his coaching career and he has already retired at least for the moment so i think it should be left in club career still also no need to source the same sentence as i have said in the summary three times man one is enough if you revert me in the club career stuff please at least don't do the same in the personal stuff let's try and reach a compromise attentively