more on second amendment articel it is likely kenosis and saltyboatr are the same person using different id's the discussion on the talk page is still heated and i noticed the salty boatr responding to a message left for kenosis there are a bunch of additions now in between the two likely because that peson noticed his mistake and wanted to cover it up showing that a message was left for kenosis what is this source who wrote it it looks like a hodgepodge of blurbs about antifederalists in pa pulled from somewhere but i'd be interested to know by whom and from where this stuff was culled as to the article text w r t the pennsylvania minority presently it reads as follows another non military usage of the phrase is found in a one man pennsylvania minority report published after the ratifying convention cited to uviller and merkel who in turn cite to other rss with selected quotation from the minority report at least until this discrepancy is sorted out i would advocate changing the text of that passage to something like another non military usage of the phrase is found in a pennsylvania anti federalist minority report published after the state's constitutional convention followed by selected quotation from the minority report just to be cautious here i'd recommend a citation to uviller and merkel and another wp rs representative of the position that the minority consisted of what was it twenty something participants signers whether they were in fact part of the convention or not kenosis talk aren't you capable of clicking on a link and looking i will be deleting all uviller and merker material once this article is unprotected as they engage in historical revisionism forbidden by wiki policies and slander also forbidden by wikipedia policies talk and now salty boatr responding without the intervbening posts intended to confuse i am capable of looking and i looked you are using primary sources and that isn't allowed per policy wp nor we must use reliable third party published sources saltyboatr talk hope this helps