african descent if a model's race must be stipulated although i don't see why it should be since black plus size models do very well in the industry and are not particularly seen less often than caucasian plus size models wouldn't it be better to say that a model is black rather than of african descent a good faith suggestion preceding unsigned comment added by it is relevant to denote her race in terms of the cosmetics work with cover girl i strongly disagree that black models are 'not particularly seen less often than caucasian models' in this style of model work or any other especially in an international context although they may do 'as well' relatively the amount of work is markedly less than that for caucasian models outside of the u s tesfay was born in canada of eritrean descent so the common descriptor african american is erroneous to make it simple 'black' it is link spam not sure where to look on wiki for the answer to this so i'll ask here when does a web link become web spam when the link breaks or merely when someone notices that links have been added to an article for an article needing to find more sources recent removals of all weblinks seems a bit overzealous to me calendars the whole calendar paragraph is problematic now i think too big for the article relative to its significance it's not possible to rank these along with antm print magazines etc any more than online magazines because they don't have anything like the same kind of public reach and the naming of specific calendars in the first place invites spam since the year of the named calendars is nearly over and they haven't become annual publications i think the paragraph should be cut back to refer to the launch of several calendars in general without naming specifics otherwise there's the impossible requirement of defining exactly what is or is not a notable calendar also the sentence about fostering a healthier industry attitude is too generic and applies to many projects involving plus size models not just these calendars you'd need to repeat the same sentence in nearly every item in the article if it appears here i recommend something like was the launch year for several grassroots calendar projects featuring women over a u s size spurring similar projects in the following year perhaps to be named a calendar would have to merit its own wiki entry and undergo an afd discussion i do not understand why you are trying to compare tv shows with consumer products and it is disingenuous of you to want to mode no longer exists should that be expunged from the article too i agree to a certain point about modifying the mention of calendars however there are good media references available for the fenomenal calendar and this article sorely needs every good source link it can get the originators of a market niche are worth noting imo the rest are just jumping on the bandwagon in terms of seeking self promotion not in production quality or financial returns and certainly none of them yet are at the aesthetic level of fenomenal no matter what opinion one may hold on the theme of the styling size of the models or comparisons between unrelated other print products such as mode magazine for example further i do not believe it necessary for a single mention to undergo afd or else every model named to their own paragraph on this article should do the same i would think that a fenomenal weblink is appropriate because the homepage remains visible online this calendar does set the standard for commercially available calendar products in the absence of elena miro's calendar remaining online for people to see which in any case was never available for purchase and should only be considered a promotional item anything other in comparison is apples and turnips suggestion was the launch year for several link homegrown calendar projects featuring women over a u s size including the well received media reflink fenomenal calendar weblink these calendars have opened up a new market for the models to be seen outside of clothing advertising only contexts and also enabled them to capture the interest of people outside of the usual plus size clothing consumer demographic newl