why not worrying more about adding new info why do ya care about vandals more than actually being constructive and adding new info i placed a section called new thougths and ideas a week ago and bearly anybody cares about it every idea or opinion should be added here first before actually being added in the article i'll be much more easy to add it in this section and the vote for concensus the problem here is that most of the users argue about sock puppets and other dumb shit be more constructive and add less crap to the talk page this is one of the longest talk page