it would be helpful if the time stamp was in est utc confuses me all the time and it gets me annoyed normally i leave it for half of the day to a day i archive threads perhaps too early it's because to avoid clutter have you seen the number of threads open as right now it's long and very detailed however i have not ruled out the other involved editors nonetheless i will limit my archiving may i ask in your opinion how long it should be before i archive ps i restored the thread in your message talk