look i am a proud former us marine so i am as against terrorisim as anyone i don not consider the ira terrorists in the same vein as al qaida hamas or hezbollah or for that matter the uvf or uda the reason for thuis is that unlike all these other groups the vast majority of ira victims have been soldiers police or loyalist terrorists having said that i have never once put any bias into either the pira or inla articles the fact is that lost lives british rights watch the us state dept and janes intelligence all quote the same numbers and figures i have for both the ira and inla the difference between you and i is that i use multiple sources where as you use source cain is a estimate of figures which are disputed by all the other aforementioned sources you can't keep reverting a page just because you are unaware of a siurce or because it doesen't fit in with your personal beliefs cnn just had a whole article on how schools are not allowing students in high school and mid school to use wikipedia for report's because wikipedia has so many articles with factual errors this isn't the fault of wikipedia but of people such as yourself who are either to lazy to biased or to arrogant to allow for facts to be presented that conflict with your own views for example the council on foreign relations a highly admired us think tank says the following under the group loyalist paramilitaries faq have the loyalist groups targeted civilians yes and more frequently than the ira between and loyalist paramilitaries killed an estimated civilians most of them catholic compared with an estimated civilians most of them protestant killed by the ira experts say loyalist groups have often acted out of religious hatred while the ira has more often targeted british security officers killing more than of them in an effort to further its political goal of ejecting the british from northern ireland end that is from a highly regarded source and also jane's intelligence british rights watch and lost lives give the exact same number of ira innocent victims vs uda uvf lvf victims i put this in the article and properly sourced it yet it has been continually reverted by you to claim that the ira has killed more innocent civillians then any other group in northern reland that is just factually wrong even cain research shows that the loyalist groups have killed more civillians then the ira the above mentioned sources also give almost identical numbers to the number of overall ira victims and breaks them down into soldier sas police udr uda uvf lvf and so on the number of ira sinn fein or inla members killed by loyalist groups is given at in total from of this number were sinn fein were ira and were inla the number of uda uvf lvf and other loyalist terrorists killed by the ira and inla is given as are attributed to the ira from and are attributed to the inla from those are the numbers i didn't make them up if you have issue with them go complain to the above sources for these figures to not be included in the pira and inla articles is an insult to the work i did trying to find all of them from such different sources i have made a concerted effort to not delete any of your information i have added to it but not removed anyhting all i ask is the same courtesey