promises promises one i promise to look at the screen while typing and turn the auto spell check on so that someone known as nishidani doesn't pick on my spelling promise ps nice to see you picking on me never trust spell checkers it's better to guess and your's was better than that of the japanese gentleman who prey to a phonological difficulty in pronouncing 'l' wrote 'interrectual' which is judging by the historical record an occupational hazard of that class it's a medicinal necessity for me to pick on people as it stops me from picking my nose which can lead to major haemorrhaging sp at my age and i dislike the idea of an obituary writing that down as the cause of my death sorry nishidani i removed your bit on league of nation mandate as it is already mentioned further up the article no need to apologize we all make errors and i more than most i can never get any work done trying to reason on talk pages i see now shiruberstein an editor i like is taking me to task for never having writing any article of quality but only edit warred a strange interpretation of a year attempt to reason through fundamental problems to get some lineaments of consensus so i guess i must rethink everything here it really is a waste of time cheers i love the chuckleheads i've always just got on with thing i don't so much lead with the chin as charge in full steam ahead i had a great laugh at cool making out that i had done the large make over when it was one of them i just added bits to his make over they don't seem to appreciate quotes from books that can't be found in jvl bye the bye nice bit on lebanon not invading israel greatly appreciated the tripe tripe that israelophiles trot out has been found to be false many years ago and still they try to shovel manure don't use the word 'israelophiles' within my hearing there are a lot of people who love that country within and beyond and yet are as deeply distressed by its military and political history as they are of their own many virulent critics of america are infused with a deep patriotism idem elsewhere always distinguish cultivate an ear for nuance particularly in what you say or think otherwise you needlessly offend decent people asto the rest of course i'm sorry if the word offends i don't know of any other word that can be used to describe someone who is in love with israel its use is the same as anglophile or francophile i have come to the conclusion that nationalism is a destructive force with very few redeeming qualities you're right in logical terms since it has analogies with the terms with which you compared it but language is not logical it is one of the flaws in i p articles that no attention is paid to this despite academic literature on the issue but full of queered exceptions where tone and use subvert comparisons rooted in a sense of parity for example just the fact that in standard usage phile is suffixed to a disyllabic term for a country 'anglo' 'franco' 'sino' 'russo' whereas israelo having three syllables differs and creates a slight jarring difference from the norm counts there's an informal rule that ethnic disyllable are neutral a pejorative connotations elicit monosyllables 'spik wog yid chink gook hun' 'nip' 'jap' 'frog' etc though exceptions exist 'polack' and this plays round the other terms to nuance them in various ways language is a minefield and what to one ear sounds okay to others may resonate differently to illustrate on a different level wiki as i said is full of incoherencies over pages and hidden traps and most efforts as the present one on 'judea and samaria' to get clarity and conceptual coherence into the encyclopedia fail because most people are tone deaf to these things one i noted long ago was that in articles like that on avraham stern lehi orgush enumin you'll often note native israeli editors insisting on the word 'underground' to describe them these ultra zionist terrorist movements and i don't think this word is used of comparable arab movements i