i'm capable of courteous discussion just don't make ad hominem arguments against me or use dirty tactics and i'll always be courteous back mzilikazi if you didn't concede defeat then why did you and your allies leave aesop and aesop's fables alone for months as judge judy always says if it doesn't make sense then it's not true you were so determined to impose your will on these two articles that you started a year edit war resulting in aesop being changed times or depending on how you count it before i came along you said the above quote and all four of you immediately stopped editing the articles there's no denying it was an admission of defeat months later i e february you went back on your word and started this second edit war you presumably thought you could get away with it because i wouldn't notice it's disheartening that nobody else cottoned on to your illegal edits but nevertheless here i am and now we have the same cast as we did in the final days of the first edit war except for johnbod and haploidavey who are tainted and thus ineligible to participate because you canvassed them just like annielogue as for the issue of the talk page you and everyone else involved in your first edit war know that the discussion at least in the final days took place over several different pages no single one constitutes the discussion in its entirety