ron you are incorrect in theory that explaining the shotokan karate relevance of common terms constitutes dictionary definitions rather what is there already below what i am trying to add are the dictionary definitions however i cannot stick to adding to the table because the entries on which i have knowledge are linked well enough i only wish that you would add some karate explanation for osu and some of the unlinked terms by adding that table column or using a footnote or two if there are only a couple of unlinked terms and not be so terse i've rebutted your pov argument by pointing out that i am adding no pov everything is fact as originally supplied by you yourself and matt you are just repeating yourself i'm afraid and you do not have a valid rebuttal to my point that clarifying notes containing facts only are useful in an encyclopedia matt i am not putting any myth in the article i am only putting debunking of it there is a lot of hearsay about karate and it's important to put in what is not true or someone else may come along with a feeling of certainty and change it again a note preempts this this is a good point so i'll put it in full caps i do not intend to shout please understand but it's a good idea to catch the eye with this there is a lot of hearsay about karate and it's important to put in what is not true or someone else may come along with a feeling of certainty and change it again a note preempts this best regards