a short answer since it just feels wrong to edit i know the limits of npa and i'm agressive because that's my personality when i skirt it i do so because a person is either acting in a disinginous manner or is blatantly and openly violating a policy and refusing to see it i am too sarcastic as well which does not always translate well over the net i think i'll go to lunch and come back this weekend to work on some articles i've been typing out at home if this answer isn't sufficient i would strongly prefer to give a more complete one once my block expires this user is going offline talk