logic please the primary reason to date for retaining this picture is notcensored that is a misapplication of policy if the image has no encyclopedic value therefore iar is applied to remove that reason which allows for removing the image as unencyclopedic editing policy only applies if again the content has encyclopedic value which is exactly the point i'm disputing and last i checked if this were a vote which it isn't the rfc was to in favor of removing though some of the in favor of keeping put a lot of effort into rationalizing that result away repeating myself yet again you are not going to win this debate by quoting policy at me because i can quote policy just as well as you can possibly better you are not going to win this debate by using insulting terminology like 'scraping the bottom of the barrel' i know how to deal with pointless rhetorical snark and it doesn't phase me in the least you are either going to have to give a reason explaining why this content is valuable which would be the decent thing to do or else you're all going to have to stick to the current practice of bullying and edit warring to keep the content in i'm happy to discuss the matter if you choose that route i'm sanguine with and capable of refuting all of your policy misconstruals and if you want to go the other path i'll see if i can get some other reasonable editors to come and help me remove it unreasonably i don't really care which way it goes you should choose whichever makes you most comfortable ludwigs