to be honest i've kind of been bullied into acknowledging your views on notabilty and to insult my intelligence does not fare well for the image of your encyclopedia and also i don't even understand why you'd pose the quandry of 'existence vs notability' to me you fully just made that question up as if its a common point of contradiction perhaps it is and we've now shed some light on it but that's not really the reason that i've been involved in this conversation