no problem at all i know i come across as very dismissive and impatient on the issue and i apologise for that really it's probably because in my earlier days on wikipedia i faced alot of abuse disruption and outright lies over the issue something which held back hours of progress on expanding articles to their potential which in my eyes is unforgivable the issue is further exhaserbated by pages like this which make claims about governmental stance on england's subdivisions which when you check at their primary source are just not true talk