thanks user davidwr davidwr it seems it worked actuually you did that while i was editing tha page and i saw and error when i tried to save it saying that the page had been deleted by an administrator are you and admin i looked at the log and as far as i can see you did the move maybe as an admin or not then user alexf alexf an admin deleted the mainspace page so i am not quite sure what happened do you know february alexf talk contribs deleted page talk glary utilities r cross namespace redirect from mainspace february davidwr talk contribs moved page talk glary utilities to user enquire glary utilities talk userfy recently created talk page of previously deleted article on request of user enquire see discussion on this page for details revert june jamesbwatson talk contribs deleted page talk glary utilities g talk page of a deleted page