i'm not surprised i'm still getting it wrong i've just recently figured out i should add them at all in future i think i'm just gonna cat them let somebody better qualified straighten it out but thanks for the info anyhow one thing i do wonder is if the cat comes back red when i use it cat general aviation say will it come up on the general cats page let anybody who looks know they can fill into it or am i hoping for too much or should i try to be more specific as is i'm lifting cats from other articles