marcomannia thanks that moved faster than i expected toposa people is still stuck from july i may keep tinkering with it the archaeological sites need better descriptions i see the recent changes to the dyk process making each nomination its own page is useful if only because changes show on a watchlist i don't particularly like the checklist which seems a bit forbidding but it does just formalize what should have been checked anyway and is not hard to fill out so no real problem there is still a lot that cannot be checked like copyvios from offline books and selective bias but i suppose we should check what we can but something else has changed and i don't know what it is there seems to be almost a mood of hostility to new submissions dyk does not seem to be a welcoming place for newbies maybe this is just a phase