hello mkativerata thank you for this can you specifically indicate what your concerns are i certainly don't wish to be uncivil in this case whereas i certainly was when of course addressing the individual i told to go fuck themself which earned me the block but that of course was in the context of giving advice and being helpful as i stressed i'll happily amend anything untoward here and apologise if appropiate in general it is true that i really have nothing further to say to the wikipedia community about this business but checking back to see whether consensus has been reached i saw once again that conributors continue to misunerstand the issues or so i believe and i thought it worthhile just once more to stress my maint points lists are part of wikipedia for good or bad sexual relations between teachers and students are universally thought to be abusive on the part of the teacher thank you