re rfa suggestion with all due respect i'd prefer not to withdraw it just yet while i recognize that i am certainly not off to anywhere near a good start i'd like to let it run at least hours to if nothing else draw a good amount of feedback from the community now if it becomes a wp snow situation i'll be more than willing to withdraw early but part of why i'm doing this now is to gather some honest feedback from the community about where i stand and where i need to improve if not successfully passing regards