there'll never be any consensus because randians like stevewolfer consider lavey to be a wacko and are embarassed by the fact that lavey formed satanism based largely on objectivism call me nuts but it looks to me like steve's such a big fan of rand that he's willing to censor the article to make his hero look perfect this is coming from the same guy who's edit warred to hide the fact that nathaniel branden doesn't have an accredited phd now i knew coming into this that it was a waste of time but i tried anyhow i'm sorry i did and i completely give up go ahead and hide whatever truth makes you antsy i'm never editing wikipedia again thanks to people like you and steve