records of awesome editors who truly want to help 'as this is not a study of people's hesitancy it is not a suitable source for claims about the reasons for people's hesitancy it would appear to be at best a study making claims about vaccines themselves not a study about hesitancy or about controversy if this study is the reason for people's hesitancy then we should be pointing to a reliable third party source that states that it's the reason not to the study itself if we say people stopped going to the beach because of the film jaws we use as a reference the source that makes that statement not the film itself so no it's not a reliable source for what you claim you want to use it for nat gertler talk that has got to be the clearest explanation yet so what you are saying is cite a source that says there is controversy over the vaccine schedule because there is a correlation with infant mortality then cite both sources or should i use opinion pieces like most of the other references in the article even the journal of medicine piece is an opinion piece is this where wiki gets the facts from opinions then excludes peer reviewed journal articles because it is wp or it is built by popular opinion of the editors from opinion pieces not allowing facts if this is indeed true though i hope notdcrsmama talk no i'm not saying cite both sources references are there to verify the facts that are being stated in wikipedia's voice if the statement being sourced is that there is a controversy due to correlation with infant mortality then we cite a source that is discussing the controversy there is no need to cite the study even if the source says that there is a controversy because of this particular study we might mention this study in the text but the study itself is not reference for the statement and i am addressing the specific request for input that you made in your initial posting if you have concerns about the other sources in the article you may wish to raise them in a specific post about the specific concerns nat gertler talk ' from wp rps