well my point is that navarre for example has indoubtly links to the basque country some parts do speak basque some historical links and even have another association much related to the irl called euskara kultur elkargoa but that doesn't mean we should link both regions in the same basket the navarrese government has never expressed any intention of reducing its own political or social identity the same way andorra balears or valencia haven't either participating in a single cultural project such as the irl doesn't mean that suddenly those territories have renounced to their own identities so close or so distanct to the catalan proper we are not even explaining that it is just a part of the population which may be considered as catalans we are not talking about the spanish speakers around of all the inhabitants of these regions the french speakers or simply all the foreigners living for years in these territories balearic islands of the total pop that's k catalonia of the total pop that's million valencia of the total pop that's k they sum up as million people who don't consider themselves neither catalan nor valencian nor balearic then add the national population which don't speak a word of the language million link or even the ones who can speak it but don't use it as primary language it roses up to around of the total pop so because of that i keep thinking that putting all the inhabitants of these territories or just the name of the regions in the same basket is so so so dangerous we are talking about figures ranging between and of people who may have a much doubtly catalanity and that's a lot of people mauritiusxxvii aut disce aut doce aut discede