thing is you see while i and a few others and please realise this is nothing personal dispute your esperanza membership nothing is set until i can get the admin general to take a look i suppose it wouldn't hurt to add yourself to the list once again nothing personal and if you do get accepted welcome wp ea e t c at utc if the admin general rejects it how long should i wait to apply again by the way the admin general is very understanding about my situation and what i explained isn't s he also if i can't join esperanza how am i supposed to get the same kind of help on wp how likely will s he accept me