wlu just for the record i do not agree with wlu bypassing all our hard work here abusing his administrator priveledges bypassing the wikipedia brd rules spelled out in brd i do however agree that if james' record comes down then they all have to come down i just found a good article that discusses our edit dilemma pretty thoroughly i have never denied contacting steve denison and james henderson in order to get more informed on bench pressing i do not have a business relationship with either of them a simple call to either one of them will clear that up both of their numbers are easily attainable i agree with quartet that we should stick to the issues the issue is what is a bench press is it a bounce on the chest if the answer is no and looking at the article i see that the answer is no then you remove the kennelly and mendy lift but the almighty wlu has already solved this issue for us huh here is the link to the change quartet made and he did in fact use pride powerlifting as his source so now its off to the linked page and start this discussion all over meet you there boys