actually the article you're referring tothe quest for the historical jesus is about the quest for the historical jesus is the academic effort to use historical methods to provide a historical portrait of jesus and this article is about those historical portriats of jesus that's why it should be renamed historical portraits of jesus and you both seem to be confused about the difference between historicity and historical portraits john you seem to think that biblical scripture is accepted as being historically accurate and akhilleus you seem to think that the historical methods used to provide a historical portrait of jesus are different than the historical methods used by muslim scholars to provide a historical portrait of jesus both of your positions are christian pov neutral pov here would be a secular one and from that perspective islamic portraits by muslim scholars can be included that is unless the name of the article is changed to christian historical portraits of jesus perhaps this article should be merged with the quest for the historical jesus article