these are a few of the posts from askolnick that i have in mind lincoln implied that the whisky gen grant drank gave him a winning general perhaps it will also improve davkal's arguments i doubt it could make them much worse how could any sober person read what i've written above and claim that in this statement davkal crosses the boundary between misstatement and outright lie people who are unwilling to use the meaning of words that have been derived by authoritative consensus and who lie about the source of their definition all are from the csicop discussion page