ani hello rather than sling my club about more on the ani i thought i'd drop you a message please indulge me with this but don't read as i am letting off steam more than anything i think my ban proposal is actually less severe than a block as i understand blocking he could only work on is own user space indeed sometimes blocks include the user space but with a ban he'd just be restricted from those category pages and others' userspace he could edit and talk in the non categorized econ etc and revert obvious vandalism type stuff now will he agree to a voluntary ban i doubt it he has not reacted very positively to my proposal instead you guys must comply with his conditions e g stop me rubin specifico from harassing him and consider his latest example he cites one thread that was civil verses the diffs that i complied i'd proposed the editor review to him before but he won't do it forgive me writ keeper if i complain too much here but x goes on and on not just on the talk pages he creates new lousy stuff and then links it on other pages which have marginal relevance example his scroogenomics article created with three edits and then linked here and there so who contributed to scroogenomics x did edits dino did i did rubin specifico and the bot each did x asks if anyone objects to posting stuff which can't be ignored because he'll take it as a green light for more lousy editing okay i'll stop maybe i'll repost my let me know if you want to use it and i shall thanks so very much