you'll be hard pressed to determine the origin of the grudges you are imaging here for i'd no contact with orderinchaos at all prior to the filing of this report unless you believe i meant to retaliate against him for opposing elonka's second rfa which i foolishly supported only the socking and accompanying dishonesty bothers me otherwise he seems an intelligent and capable administrator with whose socks incidentally i generally agreed do you find it inconceivable that anyone would aim to ensure the integrity of the project without some nefarious underlying motive