security in ubuntu apparmor is only configured to protect the printing system by default i think that if they want to get preachy about security then the place to start is the or so vital critical system daemons that can obliterate the system if a malicious user is able to usurp them red hat fedora and security conscious distributions actually protect their users with selinux which isn't completely worthless as apparmor pretty much is case in point you write a profile in apparmor i come along and symlink the resource you're trying to protect and bam i have just rooted your box apparmor is as much protection from being hacked or from a malicious local user as putting a wet paper bag over your head while a nuclear bomb is going off another thing noobuntu is infamous for is crippling su substitute user sudo on a server is unwieldy and selling sudo on security is basically snake oil ubuntu sets you up with root like permissions anyway and doesn't make any attempt to tech you how to limit other users access to the system appropriately anyway with that and more i do not feel you could call ubuntu a secure operating system most of that crap wouldn't even stop a script kiddie so please do not talk down to someone who obviously knows what he's doing on just about any linux or bsd you could throw at him after years of dealing with them and what is it with these fanboys adding extraneous kludge like screenshots of windows programs running in wine is this geewhizbangopedia