september utc and i didn't mean to say that you said the romans named them i was glad that you might correct a misconception represented online but once i noticed the discussion you'll have to forgive me for barging in i'm frequently on haploidavey's page i did become intrigued by when the animals got the name because it seems an imaginative and self conscious piece of naming and i'm interested in the ways scientists and naturalists used their classical educations in the s s