dear samboy i do not shy away from controversies in the least bit and like you believe it is a healthy aspect of the scientific processas long as the participants are both objective and knowledgeable in the field i appreciate your prudent act of getting a separate page started however i do not think it should turn into a forum there already are hundreds of fora including my own where discussions on the experiment have been raging for months as for lobus' retraction suffice it to say that he has toned down his comments considerably actually changed his weblog comments after our meeting and as you can see in his discussion there he admits that shahriar may have found a statement due to bohr in the libraries or archives that was proven incorrect by this experiment the statement he refers to is in fact the very description of complementarity in bohr's own words published in the journal nature and personally verified by the eminent historian of physics prof gerald holton of harvard that is good enough for me dec utc