i did not perceived you attempt to discussion sorry actually the article is doing worst possible by the so named finding of a number only there estimations which are intentionally increased like the centre against expulsions work unnecessary you need to point on somebody who is responsible it is enough offensive providing numbers which are subjective and biased there are official more or less numbers of all nations population killed in ww ii you should start from this until i know the germany lost of population in it civilians thus it is impossible that the numbers can reach millions during expulsion are you count also those who were collaborators of nazi germany well i ask you to be reasonable do not put numbers which are just somebody biased supposition any way i found only one non german estimation which are cold war effort most probably do you have un or other independent sources regarding this numbers instead public findings which are very irritating you should look for objective source of information private multiplication of possibilities is offending do you know it it is particularly such if you consider that other nations in fact lost much more and were not responsible for spark the hell of war in total proportion for one german in the ww ii was kill ten people of other nations when somebody unleash beware dog who the culprit is dog or the person and this is the case i do not contradicts that after the wwii could occur lawlessness and lynches are you surprised of it i am not but you see if in competition during the s the soviets would invade poland and jaruzelski would support it in some way we would blame jaruzelski for our deaths in first place the soviets we world also but first and above all jaruzelski he was the totalitarian and collaborator exactly the germans should immediately and in first place blame hitler and nazi though some love the nazi ideology and activity instead i see the article where numbers are juggled for god knows what thus i say to you the article look unbalanced and with bad faith i just do not have time to discuss details as it is from the start bad the tags are unimportant until you will point to hitler and nazi in first sentence as the primary culprits you or others definitely opposed the introductions so the recent is not for philosophical deliberations i took the word and sentence from the same article written long before i knew about it just i emphasize existing points maybe deliberately hidden somewhere in the back and under carpet again somebody dos not like the truth put most recent if you like do you you must be referring to overmans and ingo haar two historians does the total number two really justify a plural expression anyway let's take a look at them i agree that total number of german deaths in poland could be milions twice there years of ocupations and guerrilla warfare escape front od soviet army in winter and last the expulssion which i can be shure was fewest deadly but be specific with this numbers do not stick others i very much beleave that in the post war phase the were revanges but again are you surprised evry th person in poland was killed are you expecting after the total war against civilians evry of polish citizen will be ideal christian and give you other chick to hit if that was expected so it means the nazi sin is all the more bigger also the xx sugestion is good change the title of the article best a