alarbus another question if that's ok i was thinking more about how the discussions went and i remembered this comment of yours to be honest i can't say i took that into account when i decided on the form of the rfc as i can't now remember when i saw the comment it wasn't immediately after you posted it however i do remember taking your position to be against free discussion and for formal voting since that's what you seemed to be commenting on in my old post that you diffed that might have influenced me in constructing the rfc did i misunderstand i don't mean to harass you or step out of my intended neutrality so please ignore this if you like i'm genuinely trying to understand if i could have run this rfc better in case i run another in the future so i want to understand the positions of those who don't like it thanks talk contribs