binksternet same person as graemeleggett and romanianlies your stile is so evident that i can recognize you no matter what username you use stop please hiding behind a multitude of identities to create the impression of numerous people binksternet stop bulling me with private messages using various names as long as flight is heavily quoted for all kind of aspects related to aviation history and accepted by wikipedia users as a reliable source there is no reason to divide its articles in good ones and bad ones depending on weather we like them or not there could be mistakes in flight things not supported by strong contrary evidence but in this case there is no reason to believe the article from about coanda plane is not reliable the short text is written by a man that discussed with coanda himself in much before coanda said in that coanda was the first jet plane a statement that triggered attacks from gibbs smith we have a confirmation dating back to that coanda flew a few feet