geoffrey far from crediting you with changes that you didn't make what i said above is precisely accurate it was you that changed the wording so that it appeared the creationists were making a claim about the acceptance of evolutionary theory you changed it from fact this is because to claim by creationists they say this is because no wonder you are getting confused but robert stevens has it exactly right my suggestion that it might be or was because my version and the original version said it was because of the wide acceptance etc that creationists were making their claims perhaps the answer is in fact to do it more as robert s has and to break that link creating two separate statements creationists claim evolution is unfalsifiable this is not in fact true because