february utc the points have varying depths and different styles use different depths the japanese often needle very superficially but the chinese will often needle far more deeply up to but it depends upon the point the desired manipulation and the feel of the tissue below and around the needle upon insertion a basic idea upper abdomen points are typically needled superficially but points on the gluteals and mid thigh knee area are often needled deeply however it is important to remember that needle depth varies tremendously from practitioner to practitioner hope this helps