i find it just hilarious that a website that has an article dedicated to a topic such as this can't handle cussing but hey anything to divert attention away from the real issue to me the real issue is whether the article is made better or worse by an edit and while slimvirgin may have fixed a verb tense or two in his massive edit the overall result including the deletion of important embedded notes being replaced by unfounded questions of accuracy and urban legend made the article far worse than it was several other problems have been listed as well none of which apparently are problems in slimvirgin's mind apparently they all make the article better what we have is one massive diversion here the article was made worse but slimvirgin can't admit it instead he will divert attention by saying his change was simply copyediting that i and another editor are trying to own this page that it all comes down to editors like me inserting unsourced edits that i'm pov and finally that i swear too much slimvirgin you have acted as nothing but a victim of your circumstances you have not taken responsibility for a single thing you have typed on the article or the talk page it is always someone else's fault this is what i'll admit to doing i admit i broke wikipedia's rules and swore on the talk page i'm not particularly sorry about it but i'll take down the language if people have that much of a problem with it every single other accusation you slimvirgin have leveled against me is false i have not violated npov on the article i have not attempted to own the page i mounted a personal attack by calling you an explitive but i won't apologize since it was in direct response to you completely distorting my words into something i would never say i would never say something as moronic as no dissent in the intro yet i've noticed you have neither sourced your edit to show where you are quoting me nor have you apologized for what would be a strawman attack but hey lets not talk about that let's focus on the bad words that fuelwagon used on the talk page whatever