rj i can see why you'd like a legitimate source like that for a photo for the same reason that we require information be verified by rss in the text however the problem i'm seeing is that it strikes me as simply not feasible if a photo appears from a reliable source that photo is going to be copyrighted by that reliable source there's no way we could claim fair use in that situation in my experience almost all non fair use images are either user generated taken from a flickr or something similar or have had their copyright expire if we limit images to those from reliable sources we pretty much limit ourselves to only fair use images and images of historical subjects i think that is simply unreasonable user generated images and images released under a free license have a role to play on wikipedia i think it is up to us as editors to determine that role in the examples i gave above do you find it inappropriate that the articles use images with unclear provenance and or that are not reliably sourced if not why not my point here is that the question says who could be asked of pretty much any user generated image or image taken from flickr and i don't see why this article is being held to a different standard and i haven't tried very hard to argue for its inclusion because i don't think it's that great of a picture i just disagree with the grounds on which it is being excluded namely that we need some form of legitimization for the image i agree that we should have some method to determine whether or not this photo or any accurately represents the subject i don't think we need to get the photo from an rs to do that because i think that places far too high a burden i think it is up to us the editors to determine whether an image adequately represents the subject do i think relying on someone else to say hey this is me being a hipster is sufficient of course not i personally judge the photo based on my own knowledge of hipster aesthetic and the ironic mustache and flannel shirt are enough for me while neither of those elements is mentioned in the article i don't think it should be too hard to find an rs or two that mentions them in connection with hipsters