sigh i know how people want me to behave i can't be bothered anymore overt incivility is bad enough but the real problem here is the rude haughty sneaky incivility that people conceal with language that gives the appearance of civility when people come to my rfcs or talk threads and poison the well or simply accuse me of the very thing i'm trying to prevent what else is there really where else do i go from here people like merridew and joe have already decided i'm a gravedancer and have repeatedly attacked me with that label with no evidence but weren't blocked for any of it merridew was finally blocked for edit warring and i don't even know what joe was blocked for long story short if people are going to pin labels on me and destroy my attempts at discussion with character assassinations what's the point what's the point of caring about wikipedia when the same characters keep poisoning the well all it does is make me defensive and want to fight this is the wikipedia that exists today