to jareth ms barber said they are making claims about 'registering' these dogs yet if you actually researched their web sites they are only using akc dogs and mixing them with what they claim to be shilohs why it's just a money game if they can print off a paper that says the pup is a shiloh they get more money for that pup ms barber said well to start with there are recognized registries like the akc ckc ukc sv uk and various other breed club registries recognized under the fci ms barber said then there are the 'self' proclaimed registries that will issue a piece of paper to anyone that sends them some cash they are a big joke in the official dog world and there is a lot of internet verification regarding all of them ms barber said i am sure that the tssr nsbr ssba etc have convinced themselves that they are registries but i can also assure you that no other legitimate organization like the ukc akc fci etc would agree with them just because someone says something and it's not illegal that does not make it so jareth see above ms barber has repeatedly and continuously made personal attacks about other registries and should be banned by you for doing so she should be subject to the same rules restrictions to which the other contributors to this discussion have been held wiki has not allowed others to address ms barber's questionable registry club breeding practices so why is she being allowed to continue to do so and despite being the first registry what independent unbiased documentation has the issr provided to show that they are any different or more recognized than any other shiloh registry when it comes to accreditation by any outside organization the fact of the matter is the issr is no more recognized independently than any of the other shiloh registries currently in operation also like the 'self' proclaimed registries ms barber references the issr also issues its own pieces of paper based on ms barber's own determination and her registry charge for these pieces of paper what ms barber is claiming about other registries just because someone says something and it's not illegal that does not make it so is true of her own as she has repeatedly throughout this discussion failed to provide unbiased independent as you stipulated as a rule for the inclusion of information or contribution corroboration that her organization is any different in addition the article as now changed again with ms barber's numerous links to her own registry's club's website are again both self promoting and an attempt to steer readers to her business and to hinder wikipedia's policy of neutrality in its articles these links are not unbiased factual neutral information readers wishing to pursue more information re her club registry have the link at the bottom of the article along with the other registry club links they can access if they want to hear more from her at this stage i think it is obvious that ms barber has no intention of negotiating and compromising in good faith and mutual respect a neutral factual independent unbiased article i commend you for your patience and efforts thank you for your assistance and recommend this process move forward to the next step of arbitration m d fy