chaps this is turning into 'a dialogue of the deaf' i intend to add more material in the minor tops article please be patient it is not interfering with anything you're doing as far as i can see it's an article not a category i've made it clear why i disagree with putting everything into the 'big' classification please try to respect that judgement even if you can't fully understand it you can fillet from it if you wish if you want to overcrowd that classification change reverted