wikipedia categories for deletion botanists by nationality lists a vote which is hardly a consensus to make the changes you did some of the categories you emptied have been around for six months at least such as british botanists so it wasn't just an anon who was most likely apr utc hi stan several points first neither was there any consensus for pcpcpc's if they were his changes in the first place i was restoring the original status quo not making a change and no request for comment had been made at either wp tol talk or from regular botanical contributors as should have been done before making that change second botanists are fundamentally different from almost all other kinds of people when it comes to nationality e g uniquely only botanists and ornithologists working in britain and germany among all people maintained friendly communication and exchange of scientific information throughout the second world war third yes botanists are too small to subdivide all but or of the new subcategories created had less than five entries which is pretty ridiculous it is not comparable to actors at all fourth and most important of all is the need to have all the botanists at a single source for reference there are thousands of plant articles that are being written or having their taxoboxes updated both involve adding the line taxobox section binomial botany color lightgreen binomial name author one takes a species and looks up the botanical name and author citation to enter there e g taxobox section binomial botany color lightgreen binomial name pinus ayacahuite author ehrenb ex schltdl this gives you two authors to link in with no information on their nationality one can then get their full names from the ipni author query page but that still leaves the article writer with the task of finding the botanist's wiki page does the botanist diederich franz leonhard von schlechtendal have a page at all is it at diederich franz leonhard von schlechtendal or diederich franz von schlechtendal or diederich leonhard von schlechtendal or diederich von schlechtendal or diederich f l von schlechtendal or diederich f von schlechtendal the simple way to do this is to look up in category botanists if you have to search through odd subcategories and sub subcategories it takes an hour to do something that should take minutes so you don't you give up in disgust or else start a new duplicate page about the botanist it is quite clear from both 's and pcpcpc's contributions lists that they've not had any experience at all of writing plant articles and i think they should listen to those who do