seeing as you find it imperative to continue this discussion i will continue it on the talk page however here discussion about indo european language family genetics of armenians and mixing up ashkenazi jews with mizrahis jews from the middle east are mizrahi not ashkenazi are off topic with regards to the cat so as for the page there is a dispute between the turks and the non turks over what the van cat is supposed to look like turks prefer solid white coats kurds and armenians prefer the traditional white cat with red or brown markings in certain areas etc and refer to ethnic traditions in the case of kurds of legends revolving around these markings should we make a reference to above mentioned legends or should we only discuss those on the turkish van page and merge or not merge please give me your opinions on these three decisions and ps don't call me mr it feels funny