there is definately a major difference between caucasian and white users slrubenstein and alun are definately taking a racist stance toward this article and both sides can throw up rules and regs set by wikipedia to hide behind and attempt to justify your points of view cited sources or not it's obvious your point of view determines which sources you cite and or choose not to but this article as it exists is just wrong i believe wikipedia would be better served by deleting this article and adding a new sub section in the races and caucasian articles if it this is not changed to reflect what of the people on this earth consider a 'white person' to be this obviously not including alun slrubenstein when it comes down to it the term 'white person' can't really be defined it's technically not a race and any references sited are going to be garbage as you can find hundreds of them from what could be considered reliable sources that directly defy one another all that could be done for this article would be to direct it towards a view that most people agree with or delete it entirely but as it currently exists i say again it's a joke you can cite all the references you want and state all the wikipedia rules you want you just can't understand that what you believe just isn't what an overwhelming majority of the rest of the human race does and as i said before there's no way of either side proving the case for either side here as 'white people' don't scientifically exist so since you guys are obviously the type that will fight to the bitter end for some worthless cause even though you have to know that most everyone disagrees with your understanding of what a 'white person' is just do us all a favor and either delete this article since there is no factual ground for either side to stand on or just accept that the overwhelming majority of people see this differently from you get over it and let the majority rule on this article about a group of people that doesn't scientifically exist end commafest