i think it's a good idea to have both separate sub lists and the full main list george you've made a good start splitting off the victories list but i'd like to make a few changes before we go and split up the whole list i think we should follow the example of airline codes all if you look at that page it is a very long list of airlines but if you try to edit it you will see it is actually just a bunch of sublists on separate pages put together my proposal is to have the main page list of world war i flying aces and then many subpages list of world war i flying aces credited with victories a f list of world war i flying aces credited with victories g q list of world war i flying aces credited with victories r z etc i chose those names based on other list series and so that they will be able to stand as lists on their own each list will then need some extra coding which i can do and we'd have to create list of world war i flying aces page top and list of world war i flying aces page bottom easily done what do you think macinnis contribs