theogolgy john you should be fair and warn the other parties i have been very civil jesus is not a pop star so i dont like the grouping further more he is famous in two faiths there is no arguing there i would warn against your civilities as they border on bigotry random useless adherence and it reflects poorly on a site which is discussing our blessed jesus as i have said most of the world loves jesus and of the world is muslim that is a lot of love show a worldview please jesus is not property of one group and we are fully aware of the politics of jesus being a jew and we know it would be removed if added because of the tension in such assertions