could we please just stop this childish you lost i won discussion ev does make a valid point there should be an internal consistency in wikipedia where the standards used in one article are also the standards used in other articles so taking this question up to the kosovska mitrovica page is not at all foolish indeed if all wikipedians agree that mitrovica is the most common english name for mitrovice kosovska mitrovica then this should also be reflected in the page of the city itself and not just here so this whole discussion shouldn't take place only here but also on the discussion page of the city