that actually sounds quite reasonable keep in mind that i've been blocked largely to prevent me from participating in discussions that were already underway off wikipedia before i was blocked it's refreshing to see some true civility for a change especially after having had four different admins block me actually it's probably more than the last four without one word of discussion with me from any of them before doing so then there's the whole thing about much of the discussion not being aboveboard but rather taking place in the modern version of the proverbial smoke filled back room duk and haukur were decent and know more about what they're talking about because we've been involved in the same discussions at various times in the past even i've locked horns with both of them at various times we've managed to come out of it without permanent hard feelings can't say that for everyone else involved mostly however what i've much of anything not even remotely resembling civility in this entire process at least not anything close to civility in anything other than a highly ritualized magic incantation wikipedia jargon meaning of that term it's no wonder that so many of them never use that word without linking it it has nothing whatsoever to do with real world concepts of civility as they use it your proposal was so much in a different vein that it catches me by surprise the fact that i am surprised might be a cause for concern