how can you keep out the opinions of the subjects of this article on the basis that they are fringe i can understand limiting or deleting entirely this group's opinions on any other page but on the page that is for discussing their point of view please oh yes and keepcalmandcarryon is so impressed with mastcell's beautiful wording and nightscream's patience and care these guys can each other's s all day long but it isn't going to make this article any less sucky or more neutral