cynthia what you write about ed comes close to a personal attack making personal attacks is not allowed and could result in getting banned besides i do not think that ed's involvement in the unification church is a problem when writing here for example when i was a self deluded follower of sathya sai baba i had no problem whatsoever to look objectively at other religious movements i only could not look at my own movement objectively what counts is the quality of the edits not the religious affiliations of the contributors i have to admit though that i am interested too in zappaz' background but s he is not obliged to answer your question aug utc