can't fault your logic there andy but wouldn't it be fairer to the six and their families to leave the statement in for a few days to give folks time to come up with a reference i know that isn't the way that wp usually works but just to show a spirit of compromise and good will to since domer claims that brixton buster's a brand new editor i'm sure that will be able to come up with a citation pretty rqapidly kiwiexile at dmoz