august utc no that's why clearly stating and or linking to the earlier senators would be beneficial scenario joe schmo is looking up the history of the nhl oh the senators have won cups comes to the sens wikipedia article and it shows zero that doesn't make much sense or joe schmo comes to the sens wikipedia article and it shows stanley cups senators or something to that matter and links him to the early sens article oh the earlier senators won those thanks wikipedia joe scmo goes home happy and informed