probably best clearly not your objectivity is exposed as bankrupt with comments like that and your cause is in shambles i've played devil's advocate and been a provocateur in the past on the other side but when you stoop to my level you lose you must be like caesar's wife not a intellectual prostitute don't you know your cause is now lost as evidenced by copenhagen maybe in the next generation things might change especially if peak oil turns out to be true but for now agw is finished with the average person in the usa and china carbon neutral uk is another matter and irrelevant back and fill damage control from here on out goodbye i don't care who reads thisas long as you do delete it now bill but the dagger is in your stomach and twisting around bye