december utc the current rules are he was notable when he was a turkish citizen and he received and award notability due to his roots hence need to be mentioned in the opening you made the bundesliga remark yourself i don't see where i didn't want anyone to comment on this perhaps you were reading someone else as if it's me current rules aren't dubious in fact very clear this issue is settled according to the wp rules but if you would like to go on with it please do i would like to find out how mesut ozil wasn't notable as a professional bundesliga player until or the fact that he received a reputable award related to his roots does not contribute anything at all to his notability thank you