hey you better mind your tone bwilkins you don't have to sit in judgement of that it's between ron and myself if he minds my presence he could always say so himself i am not here to fight a war of acrimony i was in the middle of a discussion this is ron's user page what's your problem if i want to discuss things with ron i will do what i feel like doing you don't tell me what to do i don't need your assistance now otherwise i would have visited your talk page not ron's bwilkins i would advice you to not poke your nose in where you're unneeded ron is a capable administrator and presumably he can handle himself i really don't give a rat's behind about what you found you leave me alone i don't care if your views are correct or not i don't care i am willing to talk to ron and anybody else but you here