that's exactly it i cannot disprove it using any kind of mathemathical proof because the whole issue is 'designed' that way i cannot pretend to know how to prove my point using mathematical notation cuz is only 'possible' on the shallower levels so i'll just back down from thios whole issue for the time being i've heard to many arguments i can't refute so if when i can i'll be back here anyways you can expect to se me around other pages of ismilar subjects learning more about them c ya around