recent page moves see also unresolved discussion above regarding this issue ok i don't understand why this is an issue unless you all figure that this article deserves some sort of 'special exception' to wikipedia's rules of article naming and precedent if so inclined click french jews german jews russian jews and so forth on in to perpetuity all of these names redirect to the history of the jews in country articles i e they do not have their own special article on this topic even though for whatever reason this page on jews and judaism in the united states is indeed a separate entity from the history of the jews in the united states page not to mention separate from the lists of american jews also wrong titled differs from category name and separate from category jewish americans correct category name do you all now see what a complete and utter mess you have made of these jews and judaism related american articles and categories because of all of the wayward and entirely unneeded article category moves and counter moves renames and counter renames i merely seek to fix standardize all of this nothing more please help me to do this and please stop engaging in these senseless childish edit wars and continuing to revert and or disregard my good moves and valid information there are many article category naming irregularities still out there found in judaism by country maybe we start there such as italian jews but i'm about to fix that but we need to stick to one naming scheme for all jewish articles and so far the category naming scheme jews and judaism in country as opposed to history of the jews in country is the most widespread and used thus it can be regarded as a precedent or is one used for the category one for the actual article the confusing part is that like i just hinted at in some cases we have history of the jews in country pages along with jews and judaism in country pages plus tons of categories with same name which user izak has been standardizing to some extent along with the list articles like list of german jews list of british jews and so forth so maybe we need to start a discussion and approve a policy of article name standardization and precedent than can be followed in the future as they relate to all of these disparate yet related pages jews judaism in country history of jews in country list of national jews all related to the standard category naming scheme jews and judaism in country per user izak's recent moves involving the swiss and norwegian jew articles i thought that this was and has been the accepted norm precedent but now i am being reverted for moving this article to its similar name yet of course no one objects to izak's moves at all if i am doing something wrong here by all means please let me know however i am just trying to improve the overall naming and organizational scheme of this article and indeed all of the category jews and judaism by country judaism by country articles categories as a whole also jayjg why do you keep reverting the list of jewish americans to list of american jews even though all of the actual lists found in that master list are still named list of jewish american profession as they should be a hold over from the olden days when these article category names weren't in such a state of disorganization and disarray so lets figure this out