by the way i am not denying that trains are sometimes seen on the west side and that trains are sometimes seen on the east side i am merely suggesting the standard for when such things are sufficiently notable to belong in the articles well marc you're right about that i will look around and until i find something about this matter the pages will stay the same imdanumber marc although trains travel via west side express it doesn't show it so on the online mta map same thing for the operationg east side express well for both trains they sometimes go to new lots or utica avenues but doesn't say so well the way that the trains run decides what should be put on artcles don't you think if you look carefully at the mta map there is small print in the lower right hand corner under the it says some rush hour trips to from new lots av brooklyn under the it says some rush hour trips to from utica av or new lots av brooklyn there is no such small print indicating that trains occasionally run on the east side or that trains occasionally run on the west side the link is for the record i remain opposed to listing the eastern parkway line stations beyond franklin avenue as being served by the and i think it's confusing and highly inappropriate for a general purpose encyclopedia everywhere else in the mta literature and signage those stations are not shown as served by the or since the mta saw fit to say so only in a footnote we should do the same however i was outvoted and the mta map does provide a fig leaf of support for the majority view small print counts as a citable source even if only weakly but for the point that you're propsing we don't even have that midday extension in the history section the sentence currently reads beginning june trains will be extended to flatbush avenue during midday hours as a result of lack of train service along nostrand avenue during this time this sounds as if service will be reduced if this is not the case i haven't heard of a reduction wouldn't this be a better sentence after it begins on june trains were extended to flatbush avenue during midday hours in order to supplement train service