huh i didn't change the nature of the article and wrote the sidenote because it is apparent that though many people edit thsi article very few of those editors have spent much time with biff drunk or sober i have i know what he's like and he's not nice to women especially i think it's important that no matter what happens here it happens with some kind of consensus what i'm seeing is gross abuse on each side of the story you and willmcw are no better than jonah and his many aliases which for the record i find offensive furthermore your quote on my talk page is erroneous you don't know exactly who i am i came to this place to write about things near and dear to me the biff rose edits have generateda little bit of notoreity with those that know him as i'm sure you are aware biff is largely responsible for that he likes to spread his fame i've noticed on the pages and pages and pages of talk about biff that you've been every bit as antagonistic and as the jonah ayer steve espinola ones you seem to try and trap them into bad behavior but you do it in such a manner that is inappropriate here on wikipedia mind oyu i've not been on here for as long as you have guessing from the timetable of your postings i can say this by being so incredibly hardheaded about biff you end up becoming less of a standard bearer for the moral right side of the street and seem akin to whom you accuse willmcw believes your point of view and you his and that's unfortunately created a definition of biff that even hhe himself must be getting a hoot from you don't know me maybe you've been to the same bar where i once worked maybe you even ordered a drink from me maybe i chatted you up but that certainly doesn't give you the right to claim knowledge of me i think that's offensive as offensive as jonah ayers or whoever he is claiming that biff was a child molester i'm a nice person and i think that's what happens with biff he finds nice people to glom up to and eventually the true nature of his personality comes to the front and it's not such a clearly angelic personality as i'm sure you've seen if you ever had to spend any amount of time with him at all when he was drinking he was a paying customer at two bars i worked at and so i had to stomach some rather base and quite frankly aberrantly sexist remarks from him on a regular basis it was people like him that helpeed me decide that it was time to leave the city of new orleans another one was barry cowsill who sadly has gone missing since katrina hit barry however had an excuse he was diagnosed as bi polar and when he was off his meds and drinking there was nothing he could do to mend his behavior biff had no medical diagnosis to alter my opinion of him the cases are similar because both men experienced some minor amount of notoreity due to their musical prowess and were not able to channel that into permanent success like many of their contemporaries lesser talents who had much better managers or agents southern louisiana is peppered with what are known as almost weres and has beens sugarboy crawford whose song iko iko you might know stopped performing after a steel plate was implanted in his head after a brutal beating at the hands of white police officers james booker one of the most noted pianists to play in the new orleans style died on a hospital gurney after getting himself to charity hospital in the middle of over dosing on heroin only to be left ot his own devices for six hours in which time he died the thing is those men were not only major influences on the culture of their time and place but on further generations after they were no longer playing both barry and biff may well have influenced others but never to the degree of the other two men i mentioned that doesn't make them lesser artists just less influential not one of the four of them had very big sales at any point of their careers however when i got the chance to meet sugarboy crawford he was kind and courteous and he stayed that way no matter how many times he nipped from the bottle wrapped in brown paper in his hip pocket i lived in the new orleans because i got an academic scholarship to tulane i worked in the french quarter bars because i discovered that was where the real money was to be made in new orleans did you know that i don't think so i went out amongst the musicians because i loved the openness that most of them showed and that biff seemed to have at first i found that most of them had experienced some degree of shell shock from having worked in the confines of the recording industry and yet still seemed to be wonderstruck again biff fit right in again at first but i found that many more of them continued to develop their skills and work in the industry or on the fringe of it because music was in their blood biff was dissimilar in th