soxwon i'm not attacking but i am pointing out you have not contributed to the discussion yet you keep reverting without explanation you say that you want outside editors to see something but this has been your excuse from the beginning this discussion on h k has been pretty involved where are the outside editors i see one coolcaesar who checked my reference and said i was correct soxwon i'm not basing my comment on you on your other posts i am basing it on the problems you've caused for me for no reason beyond you want an outside editor to see something for multiple reverts i was banned fighting you on the reversion then you got me banned because you said i did something called a sockpuppet when i look over your talk page it looks like you are constantly stirring up sh t you have no intellectual interest in this page leave it alone