i cling to facts and truth many of your so called reliable sources couldn't even tell you what minor threat and black flag sounded like let alone these bands people that know what they're talking about usually see it as a waste of time to deal with idiots that don't or that won't listen to the truth because it ruins their cool mainstream image of what they've been spoon fed to believe about emo greenwald isn't any better of a source he's just someone that wrote a bad book big deal don't you even understand why it'd be hard to get old articles on here no internet existed bands broke up fast records are out of print the record labels closed no talking heads in the media knew what the hell emo was in the early 's common sense and this article doesn't even really talk about what makes emo emo and i know someone like you couldn't do that either instead of talking about what kind of music or vocals are used time is wasted on lyrical content those are words lyrics do not define music genres anyone can write a song about any topic they want the point of the genre is to describe the actual music involved and how it's played where's the fact that bands very rarely used clean melodic singing vocals early on it was either a yelling screaming type vocal from hardcore or they would actually just talk in the songs like how bands like indian summer and moonraker did genre is how you play not what you say that concept is lost here along with many others