can there be a more concise listing the listing of other inventions is profoundly vague why group different categories together why even mention things that the chinese received purely from outside sources there should be a much more complete well managed list of chinese developments which i've yet to find along with how these were transmitted globally and whether or not places like europe got them purely from the chinese this really needs the attention of people with some remote expertise which i guess is somewhat there when needham's work which is profoundly rare in private collections was cited not like the arrogant bigoted ass who was crying about chinese nationalism yet then went onto say that they only invented noodles and besides why are things like the cannon and porcelain listed under other inventions who developed these independently