macedonians macedonian slavs i was under impression that the name of the article would change to a compromising variant macedonians nation macedonians nationality macedonians people or whatever since the resources shown clearly point that macedonian slavs is rather inappropriate i'm glad the whole poll thing is over but what is the overall conclusion the naming committee will discuss on the matter of macedonians macedonian slavs name macedonian slavs stays until another poll is organized or a status quo for an indefinite period of time since you seem to be the only neutral admin actively engaged in this debate it seem to me that you are the right person to ask these questions jun utc if a poll doesn't reach a decision the poll is treated as moot and the status quo is continued i agree that the name macedonian slavs is inappropriate and many of the arguments made against using it were blatantly pov the problem is that right now we don't have a mechanism for ensuring that the name is decided objectively i'll have a chat with the other admins to see if anything can be done in the short term bear in mind that the naming committee is just a proposal it's not been endorsed yet jun utc i would like you to know that i appreciate your active involvement in the macedonians macedonian slavs issue because if it is left to polls to decide such delicate matters wikipedia would soon degenerate the english wikipedia and its mirror sites are the most important generators of the macedonian slavs term on the net which is much unfortunate because it makes the term more common than it actually is there was a brief period of some macedonian slavs references in bbc or cnn's news articles the first half of but they have withdrawn the term very soon the naming committee is a good idea to resolve matters of this type since the naming of the article itself is a specific npov question the different pov's can hardly be described in it i don't want to leave the impression that i'm trying to put a pressure on you but please resolve this dispute in a reasonable period of time that is don't forget about it thanks again for your contributions jun utc just remember that we need to figure out what is neutral not what is objectively correct a committee which votes on what is objectively correct will not get endorsed this is the kind of thing which probably cannot be decided by a committee see wikipedia naming conflict talk jun utc i didn't say we should decide what is correct merely what the common usage is what i'm arguing against is the use of arguments such as they don't have a right to use this name which is what's been happening so far btw the link you provided doesn't work could you point me to the right place jun utc sorry about the red link thing i was using it as a forward reference that is i made a comment referring to a policy page before writing that policy page i also oppose the use in wikipedia articles anyway of arguments like x doesn't have the right to use the name y we can of course say that p rejects x's use of the name y talk jun utc the naming committee hi it's me again about two weeks have passed since the end of the macedonians macedonians slavs poll we are waiting for the naming committee to be established and to resolve this issue am i right just to be sure july utc pic of the day hi chris just to let you know that your picture image new scotland yard jpg is due to make a reappearance as pic of the day on the th july i've reused the caption from last time but you can make any changes at wikipedia picture of the day july june utc macedonians can you find some administrator to block the article temporarily until the spirits calm down or should i try to write to someone july utc don't worry about it i'll warn him of the revert rule and if he breaks it i'll block him july utc take a look at what's happening in the article vmoro is starting an edit war by doubting every single of my edits on sections which are irre