hello beaumont i noticed that you have recently joined the dzierzon discussion and especially dzierzon's self identification you may want to read his own biography and look at his family photos at what exactly the autobiography is supposed to prove that he wrote german and where he identifies himself as german and what the photos suppose to proof he himself states that his mother maria and father simon had a small farm in the same place in silesia in other words they were longtime burghers of silesia as well as him yes there was name of his great grandfather jerzy appears in the oldest polish chronicles of lowkowitz w kocowicz you look at the church records with birth marriage death from lowkowitz and surrounding area and all his dzierzon family members who all wound up after in western germany and you find no traces at all of either him or his parents having moved from poland to silesia germany it only proof that the official language was german and germanization was on the way look v raczek erinnerungeu all den altmelster der bienenzuclit dr dzierzon his grave stone also identifies him as johann dzierzon the grave stone is repeatedly mentioned by many as proof the stone was funded by austrian beekeepers association and have nothing to do with dzierzon s family will i already mentioned about it in earlier part of the discussion lokk up the only polish people who came to the silesian town i find reference to is by the way on the current polish kluczbork site which tells us that protestant polish people took refuge there in the 's we all know that the counter reformation and the jesuits 'convinced' the silesians and others to re catholizise perhaps that is where johann dzierzon had gotten his surname from you like to forgot that orginal population of silesia was polish people look for recoveret teritories article the orginal polish language survived for hundred od years it is not exceptional facts you can found such event on lithuania and others countries where the native language was not changed in vilages as you can imagine because the schools were fewer i have not seen any self description of him by himself as a pole i am not surprised of it german do not publicized such thinks you need read polish you have editions by polish authors in english you can find them in literature sections also you disbelieve recent polish authors but you believe on nsdap propagandists karl fleischer his editions are years old i ask many times for recent german beekeeping historians who says jan dzierzon was german the wikipedia polish group lead by a serafin who is also nr are the only ones with a note from a book which is added to the incorrectly named jan dzierzon wikipedia article the correct name of jan dzierzon is dzier on the z is with dot above dzier y means to keep in polish language what do you mean a note from all polish beekeeping historians says dzierzon was polish you just disregard parts which are inconvenient this not only claims that he said that but insisting on that he actually did say that where is the actual proof in kluczbork museum there is many more interesting thinks about the polish dzierzon family and their testimonies i will encourage you to find proof of yours statement jd was german nobody yet give me one except the nsdap propagandists karl fleischer scribbles autobiography do not say anything of such we already know it is not that quote supposedly from him 'identifying himself as a polish person' actually just says that his surname is a polish based surname the citation say regarding my nationality i am obviously just as my name says polish of birth since on silesia people speak polish in polish version is samo moje nazwisko m wi em polak z urodzenia which is just my name says i am pole of birth further the sentence says because from birthday i found myself in breslau and i studied there i become german educated but the education does not accept borders or nationality i did not include the other part before as i avoided irritating germans chauvinists now you have it original polish text co do mojej narodowo ci jestem oczywi cie jak ju samo nazwisko moje m wi polakiem z urodzenia gdy na l sku m wi si po polsku a e od roku ycia znalaz em si we wroc awiu i tam studiowa em sta em si niemcem z wykszta cenia ale nauka nie uznaje granic ani narodowo ci original in museum of j dzier ona in kluczborku sygn folge zur charakteristik dr j dzierzon are you really assume that prussia was an asylum of tolerance and love if so you would be surprise dzierzon did not have a reason to love prussia now on