i will suggest you to be more careful not to be the source of a new chaos instead of defusing one it will be most distressing to witness such one again you took some mesures who are unlikely to be the right ones in that case and it will crave a certain degree of familiarity with the subject and its history to can handle the task properly do not dismiss users with longer experience with the case as it was based on this experience that the talk page was brought out for instance i received mails from the person who wrote the biography of the affair both for the french and the english talk page as those din't knew enough about the matter to start with if i were you i will feel suspicious of receiving approuval and encouragemets about what you are doing from a person who first heard about this affair for weeks ago second heard about it from ybm the drive force of this affair and person who resurected it from ashes in nov so not much reliable as an eye opener and arbitrary source of informations and third who has conducted since then a revert war in the best anti rr rules and best ybm styles it isn't right for an admi to emit subjectiv and judgementals accusations toward users as calling them socket puppet and other insulting terminology as it is usually to be found in the mouth of the persons who in shortage of argumentation choose to attack people personnaly in best sophistics style so no surprise that the person who rever you is the same one who used that language constantly against other users before you stepped in and who was also doing the reverting job as you are doing it now it is abusively unclear what you are trying to do and i do hope that a more adequate person will take over the surveillance of this talk page one with the right degree of integrity the proper knowledge of the stuff here physic a thourough insight in the affair and its history and a knowledge of the people involved and their characters and profile in regard to the topic i think here of nicholas turnbull administrator and expert in mediation i have unfortunately to aknowledge the fact that your latest actions have resulted in creating a turmoil on the site based both on your actions and your utterings and that you have provocated of the users who had already been harshly provocated by user r b j for several weeks and needed therefor the administrators help to put an end to it not to overtake the place of the source of turmoils i do believe that you are acting your best with your actual knowledge of the facts but nonetheless you should be more carefull to don't bruise som ego by commiting unfully justified and unjust actions in the process and as a consequence endanger the quality of the talk page as those arguments for and against have been dancing in parallel for far too long time without everreaching a solid ground of agreement and as references made by anti bogdanov are always pointed at some unclear statement made by scientifics a long time ago where most did redraw it and as all those people of science didn't knew a thing about theoretical physic and or cosmologie which this dispute is about and as the positiv statements made by specialists in the fields named above are systematically unaccepted for tricky reasons as are the statements made on this page by pro bogdanovian who are called socket puppets for a yes or for a no i suggest this affair to be settled once and for all by truly and undiscustably specialists in that field i named holger beck nielsen professor of the copenhague niels bohr institut of theoretical physic and stephen w hawking from the chair of mathematic of cambridge university i have already made the necessary steps in order to bring professor holger beck nielsen attention to that matter and would like to know if anyone feel of doing the same in england i tried already to suggest this approach above but it seems that my suggestion was drawned in the tumults of the fights and remained ignored i will ask you to make a join effort to gather your attention on this particular possibility and think of how each of you can take part in its fullfillment in the best interest of all parts involved lets work as a team