thank you that recovers a lot of work i did sorting the lists etc wp is full of lists which have nothing for sources but the wikis they are lists of as in list of birds list of trees etc so what's the big problem here from the way somebody's trying to speedy d this thing and you'd think it was full of a bunch of peoples' home addresses or ssns what is the big rush please there's quite time enough to put a fact tag on entries people are suspicious off or click on the link to see the person wearing a bowler hat and what more do you want somebody on the deletion page really doesn't understand the point of list articles do they