tznkai you know what you're right i wasn't the right person to do that i should have asked an admin to do so but i wasn't looking for revenge i was looking for the vandalism to stop i didn't want the person fired just his internet access suspended after aiv report after aiv report asking two admins for help they told the user to stop editing and establish consensus and trying and failing miserably at talking with the user i thought i had no other choice but you are right it was the wrong choice like i said above i fucked up snowman i was meaning if he was still employed meaning still able to access the internet from that ip it didn't have the intended effect as i said above i was not looking to get the user fired just his internet access suspended talk