really we should get back to the discussion regarding chronological order before you dig yourself any deeper regarding some specific circumstance when the nation that actively ought against the major ally can be considered not as a nazi co belligerent when the ussr invaded and brutally subjugated the baltics it was not an ally that it was an ally later is completely irrelevant to the situation in the baltics and any other territories where the ussr was the initial aggressor and you know that i also point out that you use later not original relationships to tar others but use the same to your benefit when it's good for stalin if you wish to demonstrate some semblance of objectivity i suggest you retract your contentions of semi voluntary cooperation by the baltic peoples with nazis based on gratitude that hitler considered them semi aryan and not semi simian affirm that as far as you are concerned the only reason latvians et al fought against an ally is because that ally was re invading their homeland and that fighting that ally had nothing to do whatsoever with the expression of sympathies for the nazi cause absent of these two actions on your part i cannot consider your presence here and participation in this conversation in particular as being in anything resembling good faith regarding poland let's see of territory to stalin of territory to hitler stalin wound up with more of poland than hitler so your personal attack that i'm lying is unfortunately a lie as for your contention that stalin saved jews with respect to the baltics at least jews were deported to siberia by the ussr in a greater proportion of population than any other ethnic group and to harsher conditions as stalin was a rabid anti semite your history is flawed there as well that some jews escaped owing to circumstance had nothing to do with stalin being beneficent to jews he plainly was not talk