monkeykiss stephen i agree with you i will ad the socio political implications in the main section in my opinion the deeds kamma and its effect of an individual being completely irreversible are stored in the collective memories of others they pass on to others and future generations through social and biological mechanisms books heridity stories fables etc for e g hindus and muslims are still warring because of bad deeds of muslims committed years ago thus there is no need for any etheral means for transfer of kamma from one generation to another the rebirth concept is not necessary for the transfer of kamma anyways atleast one thing is certain that the same person never takes re birth again kamma may recoil on the doer if i kill i may get killed through revenge or it may have an impact on others if i take a bribe my children will have to suffer social stigma or it can have effect on the future generations if i harm the environment mindlessly future generations will not get clean water air it is not necessary that in all cases the deed kamma bounces back to the doer still the law of kamma is sufficient for maintaining the moral order as the key learning is that all actions will leave an impact which is irreversible thus its imperative to think before acting there is no gain in regretting praying later your opinion pls with metta