the marvels and mysteries of cite web hei sorry i didn t respond earlier was through all the material on using and the time got away only had time to run a quick experiment with cite webb before going out to meet herr professor omberg for breakfast and then on to do what must be done for the day but now that there is time to write this is what i understand using the cite web template assures one adds a fair bit of relevant information so that the reference is more consistent and apparently someone amongst our wikipedia friends rides a robot to identify new cite web templates and makes sure that they go into webcite to request a permanent archive somehow should the link rot as it undoubtedly will sooner of later someone will know how to retrieve the reference from webcite and repoint the reference so it is still live if this is a correct understanding then using is a virtuous thing to do and i will do it for this insight thank you sk l