re references thanks for the messages on the references it looks like your work has paid off and wb is going to be a fa soon i'll update the reference as soon as i get a hold of the book again since it was borrowed from the library i will have to go there and get it but that won't be much of a problem i'll also work on the birbhum map per suggestions as you might have noticed i haven't had any time the last days for wikipedia due to other pressures and i am hoping to clear the back log this weekend i'll put a formal response on the fac page in the meantime take care