let's get the issue straight i am not the kind of person that will insult people left right and centre with no reason i am not like that however lupo knew well that the issue is complicated and would generate a lot of discussion however we russian wikipedian society found that out after he already deprecated the tag and used his admin powers to edit a media wiki page so were we according to him supposed to simply watch our work disappear yes it sent me into a frenzy because this is not the first time he completely ignored us the original tfd was much criticised for not keeping the editors that use this tag informed prior to its nomination however now he goes further again with blatant ignorance does he also get a civility block for such arrogant attitude towards us