i am the one who originally added kelley to the category i re added him today noting that he refers to leonard peikoff and harry binswanger as two leading objectivists which they are not though they claim to be it appears that he is an adherent of the dogmatic anti reason institute i'm not so sure that greenspan belongs in that category though to be sure he was an objectivist during the time of the collective but i'm not sure he is one today nor do i know if he still considers himself to be one i raised this issue on category talk objectivists a few days ago is the category for people who claim to be objectivists or for those who actually are objectivists as a devoted opponent of the ari perhaps i'm not the best person to judge this distinction i know of a few objectivists who are in fact blissfully ignorant of the schism or at least think it's all bullshit but this is something that needs to be decided