the article needed expansion somehow the vales case which caused a huge public outcry and about which tens and tens of newspaper articles and thousands of talkbacks were written is definitely noteworthy if it does not belong here it should get its own article i propose leaving it here and adding other materials also and it is not a negative thing it is completely positive i for one think the edah was much too lax the protests should have been much stronger call me a kanoi i guess i am please add more information instead of removing the information present the article needs to be expanded somehow it's shameful that we only have so little information on it here talk