answer from thanks a lot for taking the time to explain your position it is really helpful although i have quite a different reading of the issue i hope that comparing our povs will result in a more neutral article also when referring to rumors and gossip it wasn't your edits i had in mind so please don't take that as an offense however i globally disagree with your approach to the subject matter you are magnifying the importance of the mailing list activity while considering nns music and software art as a backseat this personal judgement is contradicted by facts her software has received international awards her websites have been featured in notable design publications dpi die gestalten verlag her software and music have met strong response from the academic field represented by major institutions such as ircam or steim i doubt that all this was the sole result of nns mailing list behaviour there seems to be a strange disconnection between the way that people who were exposed to and victimised on a daily basis for years and the way that some media theorists evaluate this project this might be true and doesn't come as a surprise as critical reception of a cultural artifact often differs from the reaction of its contemporaries you could say as well there seems to be a strange disconnection between the way that the people who were exposed to cubist painting at the armory show exhibition and the way that some art historians evaluate this exhibition generally encyclopedies tend to give more weight to the latter talking about media theorist it's interesting to note that even inke arns who certainly was exposed to and victimised on a daily basis for years since she was administrating the syndicate mailing list still aknowledges the artistic value of nns textual output describing it as a contemporary form of mail art hardly anyone has actually heard the pieces currently listed in the music section what is your point for sure this is not mainstream music however nns sound works have been performed at some of the major media art festivals transmediale ars electronica if you don't consider those festivals noteworthy then please refrain from editing articles about electronic artists adios