verifiability not truth you said coppertwig i do not think that this line is worth pursuing the concept of verifiability not truth is one of the foundations of wikipedia jossi talk i find this rather puzzling i've already said numerous times that i'm satisfied with the longstanding policy wording verifiability not truth and have suggested editing wp att to have that wording instead of the new contentious attributable not whether it is true when you say you don't think this line is worth pursuing from other things you've said i don't think you mean you agree with staying with the longstanding wording i'm wondering whether you mean that you think the new wording should be kept in spite of numerous objections and without discussion could this explain the lack of discussion from proponents of the new wording is there a belief that the new wording should be kept without discussion could you explain this