agreed of course but even that would be short of a really complete answer one must truncate at some point for the sake of conciseness and time considerations and we would choose different points of truncation i rarely have the patience to compose the thorough thousand word responses that i see from some other responders especially given the evidence that many of them are not even being read by the ops and the numerous instances of the same answer in the help desk archives to an op who clearly doesn't know thing about wikipedia editing i think a mention of edit warring would do more bad than good anyway thanks for the comments