apart from a select few examples and all the tfl ones i am not entirely sure that routes deserve their own articles at all so i can't really committ wholeheartedly to improving them i've stayed away from the issue of whether multi operator lists are noteworthy under not guide i can see a day when anything improved in that area might still go up for deletion anyway no matter how good they are i should have said in the original drive than any standalone operator lists spun out for size reasons should be examined as being in scope of the main drive