well not without those nine others anyway you seem to be saying you above seem to be saying that suncreator was wrong to say that you can do it without these nine others because by law you'd need all nine others to do that but you don't seem to be disagreeing with him that if you with them did pull the plug for much longer than hours or much more frequently than just this once the entire thing would simply move somewhere else so therefore you effectively could not do it at all