snowman very correct i was trying to get his internet access revoked not his employment revoked it's no harm no foul well for him anyway because the person i spoke to obviously didn't take it seriously i didn't want him fired and he wasn't just the vandalism to stop i believe i even said i think you should take his internet access away so he can get back to work i am not a revenge sort of person just wanted the problem ie the vandalism to go away folks shouldn't be editing wikipedia from work anyway talk