you treated me ill please do not misquote me that's not what i said i said i have been treated very badly ffn too in a general sense by those of the opposing opinion again read the discussion so far i thought you wanted to get back on topic i never said i was exempt from anything are you making accusations that i've violated a policy that in and of itself would be an attack on my character again i thought you wanted to get back on topic you don't want to help with refs but the complaint is that they aren't good enough ok how is your contribution productive or helpful then i have plenty of good refs already if someone doesn't like them for some odd reason well then they need to go get some they do like instead of arguing mine pretty simple