discussion about the name of the article earlier discussions talk israel lebanon crisis archive discussion about the name of the article summary consensus for israel lebanon crisis talk israel lebanon crisis archive discussion about the name of the article summary name change from crisis to conflict talk israel lebanon conflict archive discussion about the name of the article summary poll for changing the name of the article either to war or hezbollah please do not change these archived discussions instead restart discussion on this talk page talk israel lebanon conflict archive discussion about the name of the article latest developments war poll this poll is closed now results below time to rename article to war result discussion of the 'war' poll results results users opposed the renaming users supported the renaming discussion still this topic is controversial and therefore before changing anything this should be discussed here please feel free to come up with ideas for a new lemma inculding war including hezbollah in the name i would include the name of hezbollah in the title for four reasons they instigated the conflict they are one of the primary military force currently engaged this is not a war between two soverign countries as the title suggests while they are part of the lebanon government thier military arm has seperate command and control user mnw i agree it should be israel hizbollah conflict lebanon has little to do with it i agree lebanon army is not a participant though casualties are mostly libanese 'libanon' in the name is false hezbollah is acting independantly of lebanon so hezbollah should be in the name instead of lebanon i agree as well technically it is not the israel lebanon conflict but the israel hezbollah conflict lebanon's troops are not involved israel is not targeting lebonan but hezbollah unfortunately hezbollah has established itself in the middle of lebanon no use the example of the existing name in lebanon war how about this compromise the israel hezbollah war in lebanon any thoughts agree with thefeargod conflict or thefeargod's use of war is neutral the examples used to cite use of the term war are of concern should hezbollah sources which refer to fighting as sixth arab israeli war make it sensible to use that each side aims for certain propaganda morale advantages when using term war why are editors so eager to have this article renamed to a war i can understand the reasoning behind the arguments but what is the rush i think the rush is legitimate because readers may think calling it a conflict is trying to downplay the event it would be like someone writing an article about the september conflict in new york referring to in lebanon to the people dying i'm sure they'd rather it be called a massacre so conflict would certainly be an understatement i don't think the precendent of the lebanon war means anything it was a different event in a different century and the lebanese government was much more involved in the war even agreeing to sign a peace treaty with israel at one point see the article besides i feel the article should reflect the time period in which it's written and it's clear from all the discussion on this page that the israel lebanon war would be hotly contested by the community august est hezbollah is bombing israel so the conflict isn't only taking place in lebanon you'd need to include both places or use a broader term like the middle east check the title again israel lebanon conflict it does contain israel also this morning npr referred to this as the israeli hezbollah conflict i'm not sure how other media outlets are referring to it but if they're also using hezbollah then that's what we should do user