rarevogel sockpuppet seeing how you blocked rarevogel i thought i would notify you i noticed the edits of camtalbot who has removed persianate from the shaybanids article match exactly the same edit made by rarevogel camtalbot's edit summary for two of the three times he has removed persianate has been disingenous mongolian origin was removed the shaybanids did not have much mongolian ancestry according to many sources such as bartold they were mainly of turkic origin mongolian part was edited to better inform readers removed irrelevant information in order to better inform readers neither edit summary stating what was really done in the article after a request to take it to the talk page camtalbot simply removed persianate again this time with no edit summary how many edits are required to prove this is a duck or to file an spi rarevogel has been known to use sockpuppets in the past