help part this is ragityman again my browser won't allow me to edit a section once it gets too long i may really be up against it this time from your questions and from the attempts i have made i believe i must have at some point changed my preferences re cookies the only way i know to change them back is via the page user preferences and i can't stay logged in long enough to reach that page in answer to your questions i receive the response you have successfully logged in as ragityman and as soon as i try to reach preferences sometimes before i can move to user ragityman i receive you are not logged in you cannot ragityman