please reconsider taking a break it's not just because of sapphic's loss of temper that i'm suggesting a break although it certainly plays a part i really think more progress would be made in arriving at a community decision supported and enforced by arbcom as well as in getting the injunction lifted if the named parties all removed themselves from the situation as for my comments about your son i did not mean to imply that his trying out to be a seal was important to you and nobody else if i'd meant that i'd have written it that way i don't like sarcasm or veiled insults and prefer the more direct variety if i'm not writing mean things to you then you can be sure i'm not thinking mean thoughts about you when i write whatever i do write i think in at least that one aspect of things we have pretty similar views and i definitely respect you for being able to shrug off insults i'm not posting anything to any of the dates related pages for at least a week i'm fairly sure i'll be able to convince sapphic to do the same and hopefully locke cole will follow suit you can choose to keep posting but i don't think you're actually helping your cause by doing so at this point and you may in fact be hurting it most of the reason i picked the names i did is because we all seem to have a rather wordy approach to things and we're drowning out and probably scaring off other people who might want to voice their opinion you don't need to reply here if you don't want to i'm not trying to strike up a conversation i just wanted to let you know how i see things have a good day