sorry i got the wrong page before i am no way an sas wannabee i'm not good enough to get into the paras let alone the sas i don't want to join as i can make more money through business and property however i do have an interest in the sas and know my stuff kinda like my specialist subject how does this make it a 'fan site' there are plently of them and they are crap this is an information and statistical site being an encyclopedia and thereofre need facts and not opinions i am happy with the article please do not revert it without further consultation between me and other peopel who have an opinon