thanks for the speedy reply and the links after mining through about or thirty none seem to indicate a clear consensus on the issue of what is or is not a minor edit there are some agreement regarding specific examples where the edits being made where disagreed upon such as template redirects or date delinking but not much outside that clearly agreeing an edit as minor as i mentioned before i still think that someone needs to establish clearly what is considered a minor edit perhaps in a table form that can be added too or removed as needed rather than a vague catch all description for example after reading the many of the discussions i can see that there does seem to be agreement that removing blank spaces or changes to casing are minor and shouldn't be done alone aside from those the rest where argued both ways and it appears that the more technical users won the arguments by force of will and access rights i'm not trying to beat a dead horse here but i just wanted to point out that the example you gave didn't really emphasize what you were trying to convey and if anything supporterted the opposition if they had bothered to read it