well that's fine about mormons i understand that they may not consider themselves protestant and neither do jws consider themselves as such either but it doesn't matter that jws are called cult by biased types like ross there is no set definition of the word cult anyway as it is all subjective and biased and emotionalism jws are a cult simply cuz you don't like them or their beliefs like no literal hell fire no co equal trinity abstain from blood and associating mainly only with fellow believers etc meanwhile the word cult conjures up in people's minds long robed bald people giving out flowers in airports or poison drinkers looking for haley's comet or david koresh burning his people in some compound upc and jws aint that at all they're just some church that has somewhat different views from mainstream christianity though some of the views are similar but cult well it's loaded and hateful and yes a talk page is freer i know i'm just saying in general though and as i said even if jws or oneness people are cult so what the first christians in the first century were considered that way too by official orthodoxy at the time ahhh didn't mean anything the first christians had what was considered weird and annoying views and habits by both jewish orthodoxy and roman and greek pagans it's all subjective ross is not some infallible person and is arguably out of his mind in some ways a pathological and biased guy who is on a demented soap box and just goes by his own traditions and historic positions likes dislikes and personal tastes who's to say it's whatever peace out