the list i could agree on though being on a un list per se is not really notworthy they list everything i mean gibraltar is on a ton of lists most likely economical lists literacy lists monkey population lists the un is big on stats that the un declares it to be none self governing is probably interesting enough to mention though i imagine there is some comment from gibraltar on the matter we can include while i have no problem with the popular culture section being trimmed i should say that adding new info in isn't as much a problem but merging other articles back into an oversized article is just folly it does mean we should look at splintering some section off talk