there are some sketchy things going on with this talk page all this text recommending deletion was mysteriously archived a few days after it was posted while everything else on the talk page remained there for nine months i cut and pasted it again here last week and voila the same text recommending deletion was archived again today hmmm anyway these above entries are nice reports though unfortunately they do not add much to the questions on notability the concept of notability must be established through certain types of references regardless of a person's opinion of the individual the question is why how does these references establish notability if he's interviewed about something that establishes the notability of the subject of the interview rather than saying this seems to me to this or that responses on this topic need to be this reference establishes fails to establish notability because the further one reads into the wiki explanations about notability for people these cites for raymond do not have material that is even close the person has received a well known and significant award or honor or has been nominated for one several times the person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field generally a person who is part of the enduring historical record will have been written about in depth independently in multiple history books on that field by historians a politician who has received significant press coverage has been written about in depth independently in multiple news feature articles by journalists an actor who has been featured in magazines has been written about in depth independently in multiple magazine feature articles by magazine article writers an actor or tv personality who has an independent biography has been written about in depth in a book by an independent biographer this raymond page is obviously someone's baby and someone who's account was removed due to sockpuppeting was posting on this talk page last year that doesn't mean that raymond shouldn't have a wikipedia page but the references here don't add up to notability as notability has been described by wikipedia