my request to dennis was in response to li's request to me i completely understand li wanting to be included in a formal manner to acknowledge his continued efforts on behalf of the project honestly most of the coordinators don't do anything not even the basics i agree that the whole coordinator business should be reviewed during the renovation you both partially know my real life history i've been blue no collar and i've been management white collar sometimes the workers like to be acknowledged and included in the decisions that the managers coordinators for our purposes make i think li would just like an up grade in his pay scale rather than wear the yellow worker hard hat he would like to try on the white supervisors hard hat maybe you could consider that as the upcoming changes are pondered not many have stepped out of the ranks to do the work of the project when someone does and is efficient and reliable its a bonus for all of us it expands the substance of what you started years ago i know li has this page on his watchlist talk