let me just make things perfectly clear i am not objecting to the refactoring of the afd since it only concerned comments that should've been on the talk page in the first place the arbcom investigation was both unrelated and totally dissimilar to the issues at dreamhost the ani stuff i was referring to did not involve me or judas but rather they involved the self described afd collaborator judas is well familiar with the unfounded stink judas is referring to was actually a fully justified complaint about the woeful behavior of an spa who shall remain nameless