called for no appropriate yes apologies are never called for or required but in a civil world regardless of the wrongs we feel we are subjected to if one feels less than proud of behavior it is the usual step one i do feel strongly about it would be nice to see cynwolfe take a different tact but alas there is nothing to show that will be the outcome here i will think about how to approach this further i don't see pressure to make me apologize coming from you what i see is your pointing out exactly why an apology would be something i would want to do having said that it is more than likely i will extend it