thanks to the wiki i am working on a big web article some of this will also be published in a mag i think the world need to know the truth please look at if you read this the issr rules carefully dogs that do not meet the specific requirements set by the issr cannot get breeding papers period dogs that are akc gsd's cannot get issr papers making them instant shiloh shepherds dogs rescued from shelters cannot become shilohs and be bred get it that's why the issr rules are so hard to follow but without them all you have is a gsd mix period