ok that's fine you can take the u s out of that part but if a device is released the following year or later it is considered its successor hence why someone would put st or nd etc because you't have deices be called absolutely the same thing because they're not they have different hardware software and spec and its from the same maker and family model hence why its referenced as st gen etc etc so how do you explain apple's devices lol the clealy release a new iphone every year and other hardware makers do so as well the word generation means something or someone of the same family but with newer hardware released or born later in hardware its usually a yearly thing but if you prefer a model number which is more specific i'm willing to compromise that the point is you can't name it the smae thing if its not the same exact product you have to put something to tell them apart and i don't think its enough to just put a year the said model was released xxxx but ok fine but i know others would disagree with you because what makes this device different from other devices that apple releases and has them in generation order its in the apple ios devices article in wiki itself and apple calls its products by generation and names its a matter of being as specific as possible so users wont get confused and know exactly what something is its extremely helpful to many you might not think so but and many others do especially if a device maker calls its products of different models released in the future the same thing then how can you tell them apart if you call for example all your phones samsung galaxy but they don't not usually but the best way to know is to put the model number i mean i on't know your way of logic but you are contradicting the way a lot of articles i seen have been done here and yes i know you do things different so do i as far as i'm concerned most of the tech world and device makers refer to the products of their same family but released later as generations besides having different names and model names but the thing for example amazon fire tv guess what what you go to the website of it and its called the same thing most people wouldn't know the in the website is the newer nd gen model because there was the original or first gen model came out last year i mean most of the tech world follow this trend you have to put something to tell things apart from another whether its a name model the generation it is etc that's why i put that because it is true go look it up and read articles about it when they compare that model to the last year its referred as st and nd gen models by the industry at times to tell them apart most don't know there was a previous model of the amazon fire tv the average consumer isn't tech savvy i am i love technology and you have to be as specific as possible so readers know exactly what something is i mean yes i know amazon com doesn't have their and amazon firetv microconsoles with or next to them to tell the apart and i did put parenthesis when i put st and nd gen on them meaning that's not part of its name its put there so people know what is what that's one of the purposes or parenthesis it looks like you're being very picky and stalkish a bit because i told you how i felt you are looking into every single edit i ever made to point out errors or disagreements lol that's a little low and immature don't you think the way i'm editing hasn't been an issue for the readers i know the appreciate my efforts probable better than some of the editors here how many times you or your brethren going to be harassing me on this huh what you are doing is called harassment and i would know besides the fact i'm a law student and tech savvy but i'm not gonna get in a debate over nonsense there's nothing wrong with my edits other than being more informative and most of all complete i don't leave blank spaces and little info i put of everything i do especially in my edits stop harassing me and sending me nonsense notes on little insignificant things if i change a letter of a misspelling you guys going to make a big deal about that too i try to follow the standards as best i could and as far as i'm concerned i'm doing absolutely nothing wrong and i'm well within my rights stop harassing me you or your other acolytes yes i said acolytes with little nonsense if i was doing something terribly wrong i would be getting complaints from readers or editors what you and your other associates are doing is called harassment i'm not doing nothing wrong i just have a different more complete and thorough way of doing things so refrain from messaging me every seconds of nonsense and stop stalking its creepy and in some cases illegal but alright i won't put u s on it because well some products do get released in the same continent the same day but i pu