actually a subculture i've seen at least a couple arguments over whether or not emo is a discernible modern genre or subculture of if it's merely a pejorative term a sort of made up scapegoat genre and subculture of course none of this come from credible sources do we have any has anyone else heard anything similar i don't completely understand what you just said or asked but yes we have sources that call it a subculture just not the right sources appairintly sorry i spelled that wrong emo is a genre of music some sources lacking authority and or reliability call it a subculture but many of them also make some interesting claims e g emos worship death certainly such religious beliefs may help set them apart as a subculture but this is of course totally untrue and nonsense i've only seen one source that has said they worship death and that source was complete crap anyway second some of the sources are certainly reliable they just lack authority which is what we need but also what we don't have so nothing can be done boo bad sources oh and emo is a subgenre of music lol yeah i know i'm being needlesly picky about what emo is and what emo is not but still it is a subgenre of music imo emo is a subculture but my oppinion is completely worthless as far as wikipedia is concerned i'm not a good source none of us are lol if they are known to misuse the word then that would make them unreliable emos worship death is just one of a number of contentious claims that leads unlearned sources to the false idea that it is any more than a genre of music neonwhite talk course it would but i would like to know how all of them misuse subculture yes i do reliase your alluding to the msn source at least that's how i see it but i'd still like to know also any source that says we worship death would probably be bs no so far that is the only contentious statement that i'm seeing btw it is more than a form of music we just don't have the sources that say it so those of us who want it to be more on wikipedia can't do anything oh well there is no evidence that it represents anything other than a genre of music that is why 'subculture' is misused we can't have an article about a subculture that no one has defined regardless of whether a media sources uses the term it would be a one sentence article neonwhite talk thank you for explaining that neon white as much as i agree with you we do need a more solid source perhaps we could browse well founded sites we know they are in the media a