june utc it is extreme pov to say that someone's science degree is worthless i don't know what unaccredited schools are there are none in new zealand acting as a scientist is a very subjective notion since all non creation scientists rely on the presumption of naturalism when dealing in origins non observational science which is not subject to the scientific method then essentially all non creation scientists are not doing science but i will allow you to continue calling them scientists creation scientists with phds don't have to submit to mainstream dogma in order to be considered scientists they only do that sometimes to avoid being sacked can you point out any flaw problem with the disclaimer note itself nixon