ernie smith writes i attempted to address the question that you posed regarding other inaccuracies but at the behest of user hoary i have been blocked by the wikipedia administrators that said you should carefully examine what i did in fact state regading the four ways that baugh posits as being the afrocentric proponent's view on ebonics i maintain that just because a writer happens to be black or african american weddington baugh and green for example being black does not make their postion on ebonics afrocentric what i stated was that the proponents of the term ebonics view and use the word ebonics only one way that way being from an africa centered comparative linguistic perspective i went on to state that in fact a careful analysis of what baugh posits as number iii reveals that this view is not afrocentric at all that is the view that ebonics is the equivalent of black english and is considered to be a dialect of english and thus merely an alternative term for african american vernacular english aave is eurocentric the other three views numbers i ii and iv are afrocentric if you re read the quote above carefully you will see that are clearly in error regarding what i stated concerning baughs number ii so let me make it clear here it is my view that the first phrse in number ii that reads to refer to the languages of the african diaspora as a whole is definitely afrocentric what i questioned was the second phrase or clause in number ii that reads or it may refer to what is normally regarded as a variety of english language english either i contend that this phrase contradicts the first phrase and is therefore and oxymoron the fact that eurocentric writers attempt to filch redfine and use the word ebonics to refer to what is normally regarded as a variety of english language does not make this practice afrocentric to user desiegel i am indeed very well aware that languages change over time in fact i co authored a book on the origin of the n' word and in that book i extensivly addressed how the meaning of the kemetic egyptian word ngr has changed in this book shaba shebaka and i systematically demonstrate that while all english language dictionaries posit the origin of the 'n' word as being derived from the latin word 'niger' meaning 'black' see ullaman et al third latin book the word 'niger' is not originally a latin word see america heritage dictionary that is while the word 'niger' may have entered into the english langange from latin the empirical evidence is that the tri consonant mdw ntr 'ngr' is found in the ancient kemetic egyptian language thousnds of years before there is any record of a latin civilization the empirical evidence is that the root word ngr was introduced to the ayran or european people when they initially invaded and made contact with the negroid people ngrs of ancient india around bc see wallbank and taylor and durant in sir e a wallis budge's egypitian hieroglyphic dictionary the words ngrs and nggr can be found in hieroglyphs budge provides the specific site where these hieroglyphs are located in egypt today as defined by budge the first word ngrs is the name of an ancient kemetic or egyptian god budge the second word nggr is the name of an ancient kemitic or egyptian goddess budge for the wikipedia reader that may be concerned as to the relavence of this discussion of the 'n' word to ebonics i strongly urge the reader to examine the etymology and definition of the word ebony in any unabridged english language dictionary the point being made is that there is a subtle linguistic diglossia being imposed that must to be challenged einar haugen states the point i am making thusly if we call the building up of a language an aufbau and the aphasic dismantling an abbau the bilinguals restructuring can be call an umbau this is the goal of all the studies if bilingual interference in what way has a language been rebuilt or umgebaut because of the coexistence with another language in the minds ofbilingual speakers of course to those who view ebonics as being a dialect of english the idea of 'biligualism' when it comes to the languge of descendants of enslaved niger congo africans in diappora is unfathomable referneces budge wallis e a an egyptian hieroglyphic dictionary new york dover publications budge wallis e a the gods of the egyptians new york dover publishers durant w our oriental heritage new york simon and schuster haugen e linguistics and dialinguistics in bilingualim and language contact geogretown roudtable on languages and linguistics edited by james alatis wa