holy ok lets talkie the carly issue first there are youtube videos that can prove her age an editor had last put in as the birth year and stated that that was the right one why are you being so h'annoying yes now lets go to the date of births if they cant be in the infobox where info like dob should be it should be included in the text and yes it should i don't care if you think it's trivia tell someone who actually cares now with that aside onscreen birth dates should be included i'm going to put them back or mention them in the consensus