yes mr fat was a stupidly drunken attempt at creating a new account following my wish to start afresh following the recent arbcom debacle i was involved in under the original account my first edit was relating to your comment that you were a self confessed sockpuppeter at the time i didn't realise you had made a joke account as a puppet my sock worries are just on the high side at the moment following the case i referred to anyway time to move on