i can pinpoint the reason the page currently does not reflect the discussion and agreement on wording in the rd paragraph it is because users who refuse to discuss their objections or argue for their proposals on talk continually revert the agreed upon version pending further revision after further discussion back to this version which has been rejected yet for undoing their reverts and returning the article to the agreed for now version i've twice been blocked by administrators there seems to be a problem that admins want to take action to stop the edit warring but make no effort to understand the situation to actually be able to do so in a productive manner this is a serious problem i've tried reasoning with numerous admins about this to explain the situation and request that leeway be granted to editors implementing agreed upon versions but nobody seems to want to hear if we may draw conclusions from my repeatedly being blocked for implementing the agreed version for now i'm not editing the article and instead will focus my efforts on helping ling nut get his rewrite ready to go if someone else wants to fix the article back to an agreed version please go ahead