the user labongo attempts to distort the truth the following way user labongo states your requests for references have been answered hundreds of times notice how again you present a hopelessly goofy claim user labongo can you show us one such occasion where what we have been after has been offered to us in terms of quotes and the related page informaiton no one has asked as an attachment for the kven text a list of references which disagree with the information offered this is the absurd case now we need to see where exactly those offered sources agree with the written text offered in the kven article those sort of pinpointed and exact easily verifiable as mr mikkalai wants quotes and sources are offered in several key points of the diki wiki's text for us to ask you to understand the difference in that approach is too much to hope for it appears you appear to be too young for this sort of conversation it seems safe to state in the case of user driakko's text that sort of showing of exact book and page information and importantly user labongo exact quotes on those pages from known and credited historians and or other scientist cannot be provided read the bold text from the above sentence that is what is wanted not what you claim that has been requested please read what our messages exactly say after you have done that please stop setting words in the mouths of others and particularly in the mouths of historians in relation to the kven text perhaps just for you and the types of you it is important to repeat yet one more time we have never asked and we are not asking now and we shall not ask in the future a list of related books an or historians who have written about the topic instead we are asking for it to be pointed out where exactly those given sources agree with text pushed for wikipedia we are familiar with the sources offered they appear to disagree with the text of user drieakko what part of the word disagree do you find hard to understand torne valley northern norway and today's kainuu were all part of kvenland torne valley the extreme northern norway and today's kainuu were all part of kvenland that is why the languages and accents spoken in those areas at the present day are so closely related to each others this is not and was not changed considerably by the fact that migration to the historic kvenland areas from the modern day areas of h me and savo in finland took place as in other cases of migration usually the newcomers acquire the language and or the accent of the locals not the other way around diki wiki text must remain the starting point for any changes additions requested someone above drieakko labongo offered us a source which according to them was written by someone they added that this shoud satify the need for the requested sources by steve wondering and others however a source written by someone does not point to a reliable source which mr mikkalai and us others have been after please do not offer something as ridiculous as that for a reference we suggest that you do as was agreed and concluded in the wide consensus reached by all participants of this forum during april and may also in early june of this year no changes in the diki wiki kven article can be made without proper and detailed references that text must be the starting point for any discussions please do not forget to provide the exact quotes and page numbers of the sources offered for any requested change or addition for the diki wiki's kven text you are expected to suggest such possible changes and or to discuss the content of the diki wiki kven text on this discussion page user leifern keeps on deleting discussion comments user leifern do not resort to deleting comments from this or any other discussion pages the history pages reveal that you have done this sort of vandalism in the past as well among others you have deleted a number of comments from this discussion page from may and june this year those comments as well as you related deletions clearly prove your vandal acts which fight against the nature and the rules of wikipedia please realize that the current and the past kvens represent a one and the same g