i note that you avoid answering the question concerning what it costs the page to have two images to all ok thanks to this discovery there is more information on these images than i first realized and they will merit a paragraph on the b page in themselves i am going to hand the to a friend who does image enhancement to see what he can do for us obviously they are more important than just background information and i may need the help of page contributers in assessing this information for the benefit of the page