hi bob sorry if i misunderstood your intentions i've just seen too much bias about this subject and i wanted to force it down the correct path it just happened to be you that i picked out but i may have applied an incorrect meaning to what you said and if i did i'm sorry these articles are difficult as they deal with already heated topics and i was trying to be forceful to move this discussion to the next level to finally get this resolved if there is a controversy setion then it will have to be well managed i agree and everyone would need to try there best not to create an edit war just be factual about it