peter arvai help template i won't drag the talk page further off topic but pinkbeast and kmhook were editing at the same time and although the template was most likely added by kmhook it could also have been the case that kmhook reached out for help from pinkbeast on irc and pinkbeast tried to help out by adding the helpme template to the talk page there didn't seem any point in confusing the conversation by making my own personal decision about who actually added it and addressing only that editor