well since we're making a list individual bootlegs don't need to be notable themselves but i know what you mean we need some standards for inclusion as with the sketchy nature of bootlegs themselves we need to make sure we included only actual bootlegs i mean bootleg in the traditional sense of the word generally i would say if we can find enough information to write a short paragraph or so on it then let's include it most of the sources for this information is going to be found on personal sites of collectors and not really verifiable so i would say for every inclusion we should have at least two independent sources unless you got a book on who bootlegs i tried to track down my friend's but he couldn't find it i'm sure you've found these sites already but these are what i've been using a little overwhelming at first i know but has the most bootlegs including obscure variations hasn't been updated in forever mentions the who the illustrated discography as his source which i believe is what my friend's book is called i still need to do some research before i starting putting together an article so feel free to start it i'm gonna try to get a hold of that book i might just go an buy myself a copy another thing we should include is this