islandgyrl didn't you use this same argument on the sovereignty page to make the criticisms of the sovereignty movement less blunt and tactless because we wanted to be more sympathetic to the sovereignty movement wouldn't we also want to be more sympathetic to dole when on dole's page i agreed with your reasoning then that we should treat the subject matter of a given article with some due deference i e if we bring up a fact that is damaging to the subject we should also make clear any counterargument concerning that fact can we apply the same principle here