maybe someone like john little can come along and improve the article i am a college prof who lifts weights i have all of this knowledge of mentzer stuck in my head going back to i was hoping to provide some info on a neutral forum as mentzer's ideas are often censored out of mainstream lifting bb blogs if the aynrand mentzer link is enough to get a good mentzer article here so be it i simply don't have time to fool with it anymore or track down sources cut it up as you will i am sure there are muscle writers out there who can document everything in the piece the week lag is in sisco's book the controversy over olifts is so vast that a huge number of pro and con arguments can be cited fbjm yahoo com maybe mentzer claimed to have the only valid theory of bb would address the discussion post below fbjm yahoo com