filipacchi emigrant category issue this is a tricky and interesting matter of definition which i've been discuss with obi wan kenobi we decided to move it over here filipacchi is currently in the category of french emigrants to the united states but is filipachi an emigrant given that she was an american citizen at birth because of her mother's american citizenship hope it's okay to print our discussion as a dialogue certainly it's dramatic me here's the legal definition of immigrant and emigrant is just the inverse of course an immigrant is a person who has citizenship in one country but who enters a different country to set up a permanent residence just entering another country does not make you an immigrant in order to be an immigrant you must have citizenship in one country and you must have gone to a different country with the specific intention of living there it seems clear that filipacchi does not qualify as an immigrant since she already had citizenship for this reason she can't be an emigrant either agreed i don't want to revert your edit myself as it looks like an editing war i'll leave it to you to do the reversion if we're in accord here obi wan kenobi i don't think emigrant is a legal term in our category structure it really is more about what happened she grew up in paris speaking french and then moved leaving paris behind for ny i think calling that emigrant is fair regardless of citizenship status emigrant a person who leaves one place or country esp a native country to settle in another also you can be an immigrant and an emigrant at the same time it's really a question of perspective me yes you in fact have to be an immigrant and an emigrant at the same time you can't be one or the other hence the definition of immigrant is all that matters my problem is that to call filipacchi an emigrant is in fact incorrect looked at from the perspective of the us government it doesn't have to be a legal matter i'm simply regarding this as the most rigorous definition that we have this is taken from a legal site that advises uk citizens on how to emigrate to america the us government considers an immigrant to be someone who is not a us citizen but who has received clearance to permanently reside in the us what this suggests is that it is logically impossible to emigrate to the us if you are already a us citizen obi wan kenobi emigrant doesn't have the same legal definition and it arguably applies because france was just as much her country as the us is we'd probably best bring this to her talk page in any case that's where it stands now currently she is in the emigrant category thoughts