wow this article needs so much work it's not even funny i'll see what i can do fixing up little things here and there update i am trying to get this to fa status and i think it's getting very close any help or suggestions would be appreciated est august list of new jersey devils players i have created a list of new jersey devils players to compliment the one in categories when making player additions to the new jersey devils article could you also add the player to the list of devils players thanks masterhatch august is this a complete list that will be updated periodically do we have a master database for this information anywhere t c devils captain soon say rgtraynor and or masterhatch do you know if the devils plan to name patrik elias captain when he returns to the lineup or is the captaincy to remain vacant for the season no knowledge although possibly the devils' website has an archived press release to that effect in any event it's speculative and there's no need to post anything until and unless the devils make any formal announcement of a new captain i've added scott niedermayer to the devils captain list as he's on the captains list in the offical new jersey devils website because we really need more reminders of how we got shafted this season t c wow the is team most of the most amount of american players in the nhl scouts and rockies why are you expanding content knowing that such content has articles to themselves because i plan on expanding the scouts rockies articles beyond what they say and the history of the organizations should be mentioned in the article on the current version of the franchise i'm thinking ahead to when this is further expanded since i plan on improving this article to featured article status besides they're still only paragraphs compared to the main article as a whole hit me up maybe others disagree but i think this article should only explain the circumstances of the rockies relocation to nj its also borderline plagiarism of the source you cited it is obvious you took thier copy and merely editted it to your liking current practice on the nhl team pages is to write up the history of previous incarnations of the same franchises on their particular pages and have a very brief summary at best on the current page expanding the kc colorado pages makes perfect sense duplicating the same text on the nj page is redundant and liable to be reverted relevant to this discussion wikipedia articles for deletion history of the new jersey devils steve gionta dont remove that why it is fairly unimportant information it is quite common for relatives to be in the same sport see notable families in the nhl for a number of examples of relatives that have actually made it to the nhl i will remove the information agreed until steve does something notable he doesn't belong in the article team logo can we come to a consensus on whether or not the logo should be used in the season by season record table i don't know if it is legitimate fair use as i'm not a lawyer i would rather see the logos removed from that table because they are pointless and repetitive in an article called new jersey devils can't we assume that someone looking at that table would know its referring to the new jersey devils is the fact that the logo once had green in it somehow relevant to their record on the ice talk i can't comment on the fair use aspect but i do agree that adding logos to each year in the records table is rather pointless user cholmes cholmes