thanks for the civil explaination you're probably the least belligerant editor i've crossed at somepoint i do have an account user eganjt but i access wikipedia from work and don't bother to log in most of the time actually i've gone ahead and asked that sinebot not sign for me and i plan to use the ip address for most of my wikipedia browsing i like helping out but the formatting is hard for me to remember and there seems to be a lot of squabbling between editors thanks for explainations and i'll be sure to keep on helping out just within the rules