they are suspected cia agents the cia doesn't publish its employment records in the italian case i believe the man was taken off the street however there was a similar case in sweden where the man was captured by swedish security people and handed over of course the cia won't hand the people over but the legal process must be followed in any case as for the pre judgment issue kidnap is illegal the question before the court is whether these particular people did this act al bin baloney hows my driving