characteristic saffir simpson cat cyclone larry central pressure mbar mbar when landfall made potential damages more extensive curtainwall failures with some complete roof structure failure on small residences major erosion of beach areas terrain may be flooded well inland of all buildings in innisfail damaged entire banana crop and some of sugarcane crop demolished rooves stripped of countless buildings some buildings flattened entirely extensive flooding universal power outages sewage system fails airports closed for the day storm surge m m minute average sustained winds kph km h confirmed otherwise unknown with gusts frequently exceeding kph conclusion larry is indeed a category cyclone at the very least unless we are willing to ignore important factors for the sake of km h of confirmed sustained wind i already have an article american claiming it was cat it's right here however as you stated earlier newsgroups are not an authority on the matter are they as for my friend well what can i say to you you have gone against all sound logic and called me a liar because i can't confirm km h of sustained wind i'm unsure if you even know what logic is to you it's all cold hard data with stupidty thrown in for free your level of intelligence sickens me you've also failed to note the case for central pressure which was on par with most cat storms what you're proposing is this a cyclone that brought about more than the effects and damages of a typical category storm and that had the central pressure of a typical category storm is in fact a mere category simply because it's confirmed measured sustained winds were knots below the cut off for category for the rest of you ss scale uses minute averages a minute average of km h was recorded about km north of where the cyclone crossed i understand this is km h less than the cut off for cat as stated above but at least it puts estimates and what nt to rest further i'll leave the rest of my argument to logic that is if you have any listen to me very carefully beauty may fade but dumb is forever