thanks again for your timely intervention at the right time and in the right manner in this regard and putting my attention to this very grave matter my faith is reinforced in that accuracy almost always wins as it should against popular and short sighted ideological approach of some i am very satisfied with the outcome and reverting to the very accurate title syrian uprising present rather than civil war that did have majority voting in discussions but was erroneously based on subjective look into things rather than the international media that continuously refers to it as an uprising my firm conviction that even majority votes on talk pages should not be binding i nominate that this discussion becomes a precedence to other talk pages where we don't automatically follow majorities but we rely basically on reliable and objective outside sources talk page votes may be taken into some consideration but should never be the basis of final decision again thanks for you for your efforts and not descending into a war particularly with colleagues i laseral and doncsecz