i wish i could clarify and relieve your doubts i do at this point it's no longer in my hands because editors on the talk page appear to have decided that dipi actually is a reliable source even though it contradicts other reliable sources i don't know exactly where it will go from here but it seems that the best solution will eventually be to use both well sourced pronunciations in the information box either that or the present status quo will be kept i don't know how it will turn out and i thank you for responding and wish you well paine