ok in your case i have gone about things the wrong way i'll do nothing for a week then i will ask whether you want to talk or not i know what your answer now would be hope to be of help oh and to avoid confusion there is more than one poetry maker i have no connection with the other one i the helpful one am exclusively on this ip range things may be very different by the end of the week the two kiddies who played loud thumping music at all hours moved out today so i may get some sleep between now and then andemu enjoy and relax re ce ok rod i saw what you typed i'll be honest there are some things i'll have to think through myself there that i hadn't considered as promised will be back in touch fridayish