thanks for your explanation and self justifications one small correction i did not suggest that you or we recuse from anything i asked you to clarify whether you included yourself in the call to pull back from certain unspecified areas of wikipedia i will take it that you do not re some admins who i have previously respected i'll be up front and admit i have lost a lot of respect for you over this matter and your ways of dealing with it however i now consider the matter closed and i agree with the conclusion you make above although not with much of the rest of what you have said all the best