collaborative real time editor i note your points i have quoted wp not at the top of the article to remind people and expanded the main article so it is not anymore merely a list as it is a bleeding edge area some of the projects eg synchroedit would not qualify for their own articles on grounds of notability unless there are notability criteria for software research if so please let me know they are however relevant in the context of a young dynamic field i have therefore left them as external links not articles the page has been self regulating for a year now although i hadn't signed up for a wikipedia account i was contributing to it when projects die as for instance chalks did what we do is mark it as 'discontinued' for a few months and if no one challenges it we then delete the link if you would prefer articles were created for any of the projects currently listed as external links then please could you let us know which ones rather than deleting them a small band of regulars have been carefully building up this list over time and its a bit of a kick in the teeth to find some of the links suddenly deleted without warning thanks