i gave some firm evidence the observation is my own and i have made all but one observation public i have given my reason for making it clear that i have the suspicion of connectivity which may be collusion i have said that the evidence is prima facie and not based on anything more than the evidence i have presented plus the information i am keeping back if necessary i will inform an administrator of the other evidence that i have but i do not think that would be helpful for the editor concerned for this to get that far i have nothing to apologise for given that i have been prepared to put the evidence most of it at least on the table you should not be offended really imho because the point of coming to a noticeboard is to get opinions from independent editors as on the face of it you all have something very much in common you should be happy to drop out of the argument and let other editors who do not have a proclivity to editing articles on extremist politics to make their comments known that's all that we expect from any noticeboard comments from the interested parties plus assistance from disconnected ones you do not appear to be disconnected from this subject or some of the other editors who have commented