hi richard i agree that establishing some standard for the entries themselves is as important an issue as the one that everyone gravitated towards but i could only see consensus for or indeed significant discussion of the issue of concerning the permissibility of non english terms and since the discussion was effectively stalled i figure better the one issue resolved than nothing now that has been dealt with however participants in a new discussion will be able to focus more or less exclusively on the per entry criteria i do not think anyone would look amiss on a new rfc addressing that specific issue at any time that you wish to take the time to re open discussion upon it certainly i will be happy to participate talk