july utc i have replied to your arguments you patently haven't there's only one disputed point left if you have a non aol response to this statement hint lose the uh sorry the hth and the flimsy whimsy madonna is made of carbon that's not going into wikipedia either at your disposal then i'm happy to hear it if not then i will remove it just as i or any other wikipedian would remove the statement it is not known with any certainty that any members of the cult of the dead cow worship dead cows