thank you feels honoured i'm wondering now about the variants that are not covered by them all or of course in sho shogi standard shogi without drops and with a drunk elephant surely the step movers gain in value meanwhile in dai shogi does the bishop get a colourbound penalty because they're both on the same colour unlike chu dai dai gets around this problem of odd ranked boards with its asymmetrical setup but at the cost of a large increase in the number of piece types hmm a read through betza's about the values of chess pieces is surely going to help here if you like we can discuss it somewhere whenever we need to blow off some steam i still like the sho chu dai tenjiku quartet for the consistencies between them though in dai dai and above i think too many things have changed with the promotions e g kirin to great dragon instead of lion phoenix to golden bird instead of free king etc for my love of consistency though the promotion by capture rule makes me think of wotn yes teh complicated and kewl one