right sorry i didn't hear this argument before i edited in response to the paragraph was good as it was given that none of us have access to the specific tilt technology sony is using and that they have explicitly denied that the immersion suit was a reason this isn't true immersion uses software filters just as sony would the type of rumble or motion sensor doesn't matter i agree that wikipedia shouldn't prove them sony liars but they have serverely distorted the truth before if you don't believe me read the statement in the talk archives i started with corporate speculation nevertheless it was a bad implication sorry nice edits by dancter and good job with all of the references i like it how it is everyone okay now i don't think any of us are disputing the fact that immersion's touch sense exists