headline text questions and comments ms barber wrote in a united effort the issr licensed breeders only produce approximately pups per year ''''' ms barber how many of those puppies were produced by your kennel what specific health testing do you conduct on your dogs you and those supporting your club registry have been respectfully asked for this information numerous times during this discussion yet you continue to ignore these legitimate requests while appearing rude insulting superior minded and frankly an entirely offensive and inarticulate representative of this breed you founded and the other breeders affiliated with your registry i certainly hope other breeders affiliated with your organization do not present themselves to the public in the same way you do as i can't imagine anyone with any intelligence and self esteem would be willing to tolerate such unprofessional behavior much less purchase any puppies dogs from people who conduct themselves the way you have in this discussion you claim a lot but you provide no independent support for your claims only your own writings on your own website you claim anyone producing dogs other than you or your registry are frauds yet you are unwilling to prove how this is true other than offering some photos you have taken of these dogs and your own rantings as evidence you claim breeders unaffiliated with you are in it for the money yet you produce more of these dogs than almost all other breeders combined through your wholly and co owned breeding dogs your website for this winter alone shows you are producing eleven litters at new zion and through co ownership breedings eleven litters even conservatively speaking could easily produce over puppies and you are planning for more litters next spring and summer you also currently list over stud dogs and over females you are considering for breeding you charge a lot of money for each puppy you produce after the puppy buyer has paid you for a puppy from a certain litter you also contractually reserve the right at your own discretion to substitute a puppy from another compatible again based on your own determination litter and you will not provide a refund if they are do not agree with the substitute puppy you decide to offer them see zion reserves the right to substitute any litter of equal higher value that is compatible with your exact requirements it appears that once monies are given are given to you your contract does not allow for any refund under any circumstances nor could i find any instances where you contractually assume any financial responsibility whatsoever for any puppies you produce who display congenital hereditary problems requiring resulting astronomical extensive veterinary fees you require your puppy buyers to not only pay you for puppies at the time you produce them but you also require puppy buyers to sign contracts promising future puppy and breeding rights for breedable dogs you require the dog's new owners to either give you some of the puppies that dog produces in the future and or you require they allow you to use that dog in the future to sire new litters of your own in order to profit from the dog not only now but also throughout his her life you have no stated policy on your website page re your own personal policy commitment to rescue and make find a home for for any of the puppies dogs you produce should they become unwanted homeless and or end up in shelters or in abusive situations your policies and prices make no mention of a contractual requirement by you with the signed contractual commitment of your puppy buyers to spay neuter their new pets in order to reduce overpopulation of this breed and dogs in general i could find nowhere on your website where the horrifying statistics of unwanted euthanzied dogs in the u s million including of which are purebred dogs is responsibly addressed by someone actively promoting and engaged in the proliferation of this explosion your website does not list any independent references such as recommending governing affiliations i e better business bureau approval ratings i e ofa penn hip cerf or other professional organizations to which you belong ie american dog owner's association the the delta society therapy dog training or agility organizations etc only your own dog club ssdca you own dog registry issr and your own