what discussion i tried to make my points and no one made any attempt to rationalize whay an image which by wiki guidelines clearly isn't suited for the info box can't be replaced with one that is clearly better suited it siad an image of gloria steinem should be by herself not a group shot i cannot believe that you would take j greb's side when he is wrong as for the ip address thing i forgot to log on my computer automatically logs me in but i was using the computer in the leasing office of my apartment no one has made any attempt to discuss why the image which wikipedeia says shouldn't be used gets to stay except to tell me to discuss it