the consensus agreed on earlier was that the ntsb briefings are an authoritative source and rightly so they do not need to be separately quoted by rd party media press refs let alone by questionable blog postings or other online media and yeah i'd expect people to actually have seen all ntsb briefings otherwise they have really no reason whatsoever to bother reviewing stuff here if anybody can't be bothered to watch the ntsb briefings then please just read the transcripts frankly it is beyond me how you guys are tolerating this type of workflow and behavior even perceiving me stating that as an attack how can it be an attack to expect people to be familiar with the topic they're contributing to honestly all this goes to show the weaknesses and shortcomings of crowd sourced encyclopedia writing there's no proper hierarchy and if there's one it's one where seniority and stylistic aptitude count more than a factual background yeah this is kinda disappointing