feb utc i would like to know how you earned the title to decide who is a serious conservative and who isn't also how is that relavant to whether something is npov or not i don't think your comment has anything to do with what is npov but i am absolutely sure that your comment indicates that you are bias it doesn't matter if byrd was a kleagle years ago or years ago or if was a kleagle in when he was talking about white n the fact that he was a kleagle is the probably one of the most important aspects of his whole career he even admits that himself when he tells other potential kleagles not to become kleagles because the whole kleagle thingeven if you are like byrd and think the kleagle thing is coolwill hurt you because guys like me the supposedly unserious conservative will remind him of his kleagle days every chance that i get byrd was a kleagle and that is one of the most important aspects of his whole career he even admits the fact that his kleagle ness has held him back to bigger and better things and don't argue that he didn't want bigger and better things than to be the head kleagle from west virginia he did run for the presidency and the whole kleagle surely couldn't have helped you like the guy so you want to minimize the kleagle thing but it would not be npov because that's who byrd is the oldest highest ranking kleagle still in politics head kleagle grand kleagle of the senate el demo grande kleagle