user bgwhite i am surprised that ontario's reverted to a neutral version edit of course it is neither a reversion nor neutral was seemingly at your request if i had known i would have asked you to revert it instead of doing so myself dec which has now brought me an accusation by drcrazy on ani of edit warring my first priority is to get ontario banned blocked and the current forum for that is the ani incident until that is finished i do not intend to spend time elsewhere most especially because i don't want to give anyone on ani an excuse to say ok they are discussing on the tp so there is no more need for this ani we can close it i am also surprised that you fell for ontario's spiel on your tp and choose the pr in the broader family section the question posed in the two drns and the ani basic dispute would seem to be a more obvious topic one that ontario is intent on avoiding until i drop having said all that i will point out that i have already criticized ontario's table on sep here