george i'm not sure who you're talking to but if it's me i don't see how my comments are hurting any either this makes at least ani threads that mathsci has started or hijacked in efforts to get people in trouble around the r i starting with a half assed effort to hijack a thread and get me banned enough is enough the poor sot needs to learn that he needs to behave like an adult occam please allow me to do things the way i think is best your approach to the problem is not exactly a success story yah i'm interested in ending the problem not exacerbating it ludwigs