forgive me also i must be in attack mode all of the time on the internet it just sounded like you were poo pooing any discussion of the topic i'm not a newcomer i have another account but i ditched it because it's tied to some articles i don't want to be associated to i believe that if there was enough interest i could put together quite a case for my theory on who killed trudy monk i've put a brief description on my talk page trudy's murder is a major part of the series but since discussing it on the main article page would ruin the suprise which will come at the end of the series i put it on my userpage lots of members use their userpages for things like that