i understand your hesitation but appreciate your assistance in spite of that thank you very much for moving the articles to my user page i agree with the a deletion that took place when it did for both of these articles i think the articles were written at a time when the criteria were more loosely defined and enforced or people wrote these articles as unexperienced wikipedians without knowing the criteria quite possibly both i think that means the articles need to be written correctly not deleted as they are notable in their own right if i may ask one more request of you would you be willing to review the articles when i have finished editing them before taking them over to deletion review thank you again for your help d