everything that is on wikipedia article space has to be by consensus policy dully noted the hadith that you tried to remove is about a slave that was freed no the hadith i removed was about a wife that didn't give her uncle a gift in which muhammad told her you can it has no basis on manumission of slaves or not muhammad alredy encouraged manumission with the evidence i brought forth we have a consensus to retain that and to keep the section title neutral i agree but saying manumission makes no sense it is either encouraged or discouraged there's no reason to have any further discussion on any of this since the consensus is clear i have yet to see a reason a valid one why giving gifts to your uncle is constituted as manumission you can continue to talk here all you want but i don't think anyone is going to reply further because it's just repetitious at this point and that wastes everyone's time it's waste everyone who doesn't know the hadith this is simply a herd mentality and as i have told you before the people who started the edit warring were people stalking me and following me there is no way wikipedia can't have tyranny of the majority would a need a consensus surely there can exist a consensus from editors who have knowledge in this area and not people who have a dog against me like jeppiz and tip