but coincidence is read the article i referenced by salmon he explains it very clearly it is accessibly on the internet and by the way i am still waiting for those page references from nibley for the matches that you say are suppressed if you can't give a reference then how do i know you are not exaggerating the parallels nibley claims or even making them up this whole debate goes away when you can give us the references required to establish the facts quotes and page numbers so we can cross check selective deletion das i don't appreciate how you are selectively removing my words from the conversations i have posted on this page it appears that you are deliberately trying to cast me in a bad light if you are not comfortable with me posting here then we can move the discussion to my talk page i never delete any posts there and the entire conversation can be preserved once again you are trying to misconstrue my arguments by selectively deleting my posts here i reverted them if you want to remove the conversation then remove the whole thing please