nishidani you raise some good points the bottom line is that there should not be two lengthy sections in wikipedia on the same topic one an independent article and one a very lengthy section in the saq article as you suggest one solution would be to delete the independent article and move the lengthy section in the saq article over to replace it could we not all have a close look at the two 'historical' accounts to see whether that's feasible and then try to reach consensus on that point