thank you j very informative and i will keep those in mind although i know the last one applies to me i'm just having difficulty understanding your third bullet point would you be able to clarify anma i highly advise you follow the first two points as you have unessecarily remove references then deleted the page in the name of no references thus i reposted i'm assuming that was meant by baiting second at no time did we ever reach consensus as you just came in and removed things instead of working with me to get this right j thank you for your professionalism and take the time to give your cents i hoist a goblet to your name