i tried copying and pasting the four tildes you provided but that didn't work thank you though for the trouble you went to and yes i am using the tildes straight off the keyboard now i bet you're wondering how i corrected the problem i entered my signature in wiki code that gives me the sig and a link to my talk page i followed that with five tildes and that gives me the time stamp nice to have that problem out of the way now i can concentrate on more interesting things if i ever find out what the problem is i'll let you know re photos it occurred to me too that it might be too early in the year to photograph landscapes photos of the pavelka farmstead will work well with several articles also have you photographed the red cloud opera house it's featured in several cather novels and is currently home to the willa cather foundation another article i plan to work on eventually photos of the opera house could come in handy