hello ten i read the information on the reference desk talk page and in fact was already aware of point set topologists post on the maths desk and the minor fall out resulting from it i tried for sometime to give a sensible reply being a little bemused myself when i first read the post but failed in the end the comment i posted which was aimed primarily at 'pst' seemed to totally summarise the situation ie that somebody might benefit in pulling their head out of their ass a ridiculous response to a ridiculous situation it was meant as a joke albeit insulting in the same spirit of humour i'd like to quote pst out of contextperhaps i should have framed my remark in a less confrontational manner but at its present length it will at least leave an indelible mark on the op's mind which i hope will help him her to realize the meaning of my comment later on i intended no harm towards any of the people involved also noting from your talk page i see declandavis is suspicious of me now i can assure you and them that i did not post the contributions nor do i understand them i think pst went a little over the top on his her post and so did i