july utc aaahhh the wiki word of 'majick ' consensus 'n then inspiring usages as ' balanced discussions moving towards consensus ' with respect kieferskunk you're indulging in some smoke with mirrors 'n handwaving since whenever has 'consensus' been some sort of guarantee of guidance towards what is true just etc etc i'd bet that on history's scale 'consensus' is a miserable failure the 'triangle trade' was a matter of 'community consensus' among those who participated as was the holocaust but anyway that it is a comforting fiction of human understanding is neither here nor there it's well what can i say sooo subjective and thus by wiki's own 'standards' unencyclopaedic grudging acceptance maybe the idea of 'consensus' as being an aspect of 'mediocrity ' a kind of 'dumbing down' is featured in a recent r docu on wiki download 'n it should play for ya i too have been away and apologize for my delay in getting back be sure that i will respond to your later contribution n b there are parallels in this argumentation between 'consensus' in wiki and 'democracy' as it plays in the west particularly how the 'poor weak' plebs are 'allowed' to manifest their reasoning in the face of the 'rich strong' equestrians aristos