closing as yes it should the discussion is basically between i don't like it on the con side and it helps and it's in line with common practise on the pro we don't accept the cons' argument when contrasted with the argument that the pros are making because the issue of infobox vs identibox was brought up so late and not discussed by most people i'm going to say no consensus on that i would encourage participants to open a new discussion on it immediately it wouldn't be much help to keep open that part of the discussion because people are obviously discussing it in the context of should we have anything of the sort