the conscencus was met in a previous version of the talk page it has undergone several clean ups and again this is not personal opinion you can agree with the notion that a genre has certain characteristics right if there weren't such characteristics we would not genre lable acts to begin with evanescence does not come close to sounding like gothic rock yet because some journalist called them gothic rock they automatically have a place in the list of gothic rock bands you don't see how utterly retarded this is