having cake and eating it too i lack the time to contribute many wiki edits but i have been listening in on the current arbitration i've noticed something that may be of interest you mentioned here that one side mosmac has been portrayed as a fragile consensus and yet on the other recently start claiming the opposite one doesn't even need to look that far even in the current arbitration some editors are characterizing the use of fyrom as evidence on disruptive greek nationalists yet on the other side they seem to be claiming that mosmac wasn't a consensus to justify the move to plain macedonia if i was participating i would certainly consider asking the users completing about fyrom usage to clearly state whether mosmac was ever a consensus or not imo anyone who says no is essentially suggesting use of fyrom was valid if contentious anyone that says yes is admitting it would be very inappropriate for an admin to use their special access to break a consensus i'll leave it to your experienced judgment whether you see the point worthy of inclusion