good point which is why i long ago it seems i e earlier yesterday as soon as i learned how bowed to the formality of acquiring the wikipedia form permission still it'll be awhile i hope before sueing someone for using a nobel laureate's four line obituary of hitler will be publicity to revel in even murdoch jewish sadly relevant in this case might not want to appear supporting hitler that way or maybe not who knows he might want that obituary suppressed from ever being quoted again better safe than sorry i agree i like following the guide lines but it was hard getting easy info on them and unpleasant getting there i bite back sure but only back on the issue itself i cherish being as correct as only possible yet in the relevant case copy for educational purposes would be validly claimed until tried and determined otherwise better safe than sorry though there's always a limit to how little risk should and can be taken no risk is never an option