preceding unsigned comment added by out of scoped out of scope isn t a reason for speedy you must have meant wikipedia ambasciata was out of scope in wp space which is correct but what it needed was simply to be moved into mainspace which i did did you mean to be editing with your smf account such edits are usually considered to be in some sense official '''''' talk feedback sorry i made a mistake not understand it yet can you remove it nothing personal greetings elitra i just wanted to let you know my comments are nothing personal towards you or the other wmf folks but the release of ve with so many problems is premature and folks have a valid point that proper notification wasn't given please don't take the following as a negative reflection but i wanted to clarify a couple things people are frustrated because now as in the past it seems as thought the wmf doesn't listen to what us editors are saying yes you have evidence that you tried to notify users but the way the notifications were done and the places they were located gives the impression that the folks building these changes don't understand the community or how it works you are also worknig hard to fix the problems but then releae the app to all logged in users knowing there are a lot of problems many of which are severe then you act as though your surprised and hurt that we are annoyed we know you are working on the problems but so are we and we want to feel as though our voices are heard too when the visual editor talk pages aren't filled with long lists of complaints and bugs then we can talk about a widescale release but there's no need to rush it out yet anyway i just wanted to clarify that the problems aren't with you they are with the wmf organizations's ongoing policy of doing whatever they feel like regardless of what us dumb editors think happy editing ps sorry they mixed us up your user page hi elitre when we designed the template we intended to make it easy for staff to use it and edit it so added parameters that would make it easy to update the relevant sections i noticed that you'd substituted the template on your user page instead of transcluding it and presumed this was not intentional so i've gone ahead and boldly switched it to the template making a few general fixes this should allow you to also edit your user page through the visual editor please feel free to undo my changes if you intended to substitute the template helpfulone random act of kindness hello elitre wmf eduemoni has given you a shining smiling star you see these things promote wikilove and hopefully this has made your day better spread the whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time enjoy talk your cute just wanted to drop a note and tell you that cheers preceding unsigned comment added by