trivia lesson ok i m going to enjoy this here we go amateur you can reply where i indicated between paregraph so that the disscusion can be more organized rupert thorne was a recurring villain in a kingpin fashion from the nd half of the 's until the crisis came then he was forgotten and then saved by timm in the 's for the animated series falcone is just a recurring name frank miller and jeph loeb use when he needs to mention gotham city mafia carmine was never a lead villain like rupert has been if you accuse me of just watching the animated series which i deny i can acuse you of just getting exited because of the carmine appearance in the last movie maroni is just a support guy for two face's story as tony zucco is for robin's who is the nerd defending minor characters and bragging about how he knows nick names everybody knows like boss and roman now heh heh heh reply every single comment can be sourced appealing to whom for example is the easiest comment to source if you want to waste your time like that just check how many batman titles are published every single month and how many people buys against any other superhero's books you will learn that monthly the amount of baman books sold is good enough to call the mythos appealing that's why there are motion pictures animated series without jl and superfriends and even scooby doo appearances by joker riddler scarecrow and penguin and live action show and several internet about batman his foes and his mythos that's why the mythos is so appealing reply catwoman is dangerous following your logic maybe mr zsasz would be batman's worst enemy being a killer doesn t make an enemy notable as his protagonism and his importance in the mind of batman and batman readers writers and creators does knowing batman's identity and not being completely on the good side makes her even more important you seem new to the comics world do you really think catwoman is going to be holly for so long context pc context selina has been a main character for more than years i m talking about all those years not about the comic book you just bought on the corner store last week my mate following again your line of thought it not worth saying nixon was a president because he is dead we couldn t say adam west was batman because that show is of and you called my ways childish reply i think you might be confused we are talking about batman you might be thinking of some other superhero in batman comics bets are that if you buy a batman comic from any year at random or watch any episode form any batman series also at random the joker catwoman the penguin the riddler or two face are going to be the main villain if you get the croc or scar face the mad hatter you are loki and if you catch you hero the roman you are really really a lottery winner by the way there it s something called figurative speech and it means to compare situations i dunno if they told you they are not literary on a race reply hugo the scarecrow and the hatter are influential because whenever they appear the story goes on a deeper lever exploring batman's mind and messing with it those characters are useful tools when a writer wants to analyze batman besides i don't know if you are capable of using your imagination i m sure you can it s an indispensable tool for getting into the story when you read but if someone messes with your mind on the level they have messed with batman s that'll probably leave some ugly emotional scars on you good thing he is the batman therefore they do get to be influential in a way thinking they don't get to appear as much as the five previous therefore they are not influential is just wrong reply i put the first clayface after mentioning that the previous are important don't make me doubt of your reading skills how ever basil karlo has been important on and off and he started the clayface concept and we have to point that you talked about context to me marking the appearance of the st clayface as i did is context reply i could doubt words i used like hot sexy bimbo and many other that i once and again asked everyone to edit if they don't happen to like them but i think is safe to say their creators intentions were to make those female characters look like that didn't you notice the curves in the drawings i dunno about you but for most guys that could be a hot bimbo in both comics and series harley has been portrayed as a slut sleeping with her teachers for a better note killing his lover without caring and even was hinted as a playful lesbian in hush if you add that to the fact t