ec you initially lost me when you started making hitler comparisons but you did make a good point further down we should compare him to all other white hose chief of staffs in category white house chiefs of staff i did not go through all of them but those that i saw did not go beyond the father's profession which is already more then this article which mentions not only his profession but also his extra curricular activities the two cos's that you mention in support of your argument are clearly work against you in the james baker article who is far more notable than emaneuel it says that his father was a lawyer that's it in the john h sununu article it states his father's profession and where he was from also more than this article in alexander haig a star general and far more notable than emanuel there is nothing on his father in h r haldeman it says that his father donated money to the republican party if that is your basis for the inclusion of a discussion of his father's activities it is pretty weak firstly there is no wikilink that would resolve this addition like irgun secondly its not a pov in summation the general scheme of cos's is not to include background information on the person's father which makes the desperation of some editors to include pov edits in this article all the more perplexing crewer yada yada