why should 'considering self' be the sole argument omer pasa latas didn't consider himself anyway thats not the age of nationalism he was an orthodox serb who under devsirm became a muslim just like bosnian serb mehmed pasa sokolovic no reason to remove him josif pan i converted to serbian orthodoxy when he came to belgrade and assimilated i'm not going to go into his personal family origins not realy nown ok will look further how can it be hardly doubtful you seem to be more sort of opposing the addition of any serb catholic please do not remove fabris