proposing deletion of an article hi tavix how are you doing i think i need to ask you for your help if you don't mind helping a newbie since i can see that you've had experience in editing articles and seem to be an authority on article qualification again i'm new to wikipedia and i have one purpose here to have a page for the hockey league i belong to i have read countless help articles linking to other help articles linking to more help articles i've read 'notibility' 'articles for deletion' 'deletion policy guidlines' in my efforts to save my page from the few people who seem to want the page gone forever these people have not giving any advice just citing everything that's wrong with the page and nothing that is right can i change your mind on windsor floor hockey league and your proposing on deleting it i would do whatever possible to comply with the rules of wikipedia and have read quite alot in the guidelines about why the page should be included so many i donno where to begin social recreational clubs have a place on wiki included in the article is a physical address of where the games take place some article i read said that stands for something there's alot of reasons why it should exist on wikipedia and about two or three small debatable issues about lack of notibility i included all the league's website and pages and it's not like anyone is debating the truthfulness of the article but they do insist on citing the page for notability more independant sources where i have done the best i possibly can i included all the links ever available and having said that ask any of the families that are effected by this league in a town during a time where of it's population has been laid off indefinitely this league is notable to me and to others isn't that enough for you can you answer me this how is this league not notable to the people and families who care about it notibility is in the eye of the beholder just because it's not being written about in the newspapers yet doesn't make it any less notable to the people who would type wfhl into the 'search' i hope to work with you and not against you as i try to save my page hopefully one man's reason as to why my article is not notable wont erase the many reasons why people like myself think it should be included in wikipedia thanks for reading hopefully this will convince you to help the cause instead of adding to the fire that's trying to destroy it