great but what i meant about weakest link is that i don't see an explicit connection to developments in noise music in the sources i've seen have you got a source that place's something called post industrial in the context of the history of noise music i'm presuming this is the umbrella term invented by music journalists to cover any music that is stylistically informed by industrial music yet is at the same time far enough removed to warrant the 'post' tag unless the sources are good on this it's too divergent in my opinion to include right now some of what might be called post industrial is not that far removed from pop music so it simply doesn't warrant inclusion you might as well do a section on death metal and its precursors but this kind of bifurcatory dot connecting is hardly the best way forward especially as the title of this article arose as a result of someone trying to define a single genre known as noise music personally i think it is perhaps a stretch too far to start covering any kind of music or any composer artist that might have dabbled in a bit of noise making and i don't think that is what should happen with this article unless the claims are sourced and that's why i mentioned already that we should try and stick as closely as possible to what the main sources dealing with the historical use of sound noise in music have to offer we now see a number of artists for example jeff mills being redefined as a post industrial musicians and the sentence throws in the year despite the fact that mills has been associated with techno for years now i find this kind of redefinition without strong sources problematic