crocus olivieri istanbulensis dear rivertorch this taxon is one on the three subspecies of crocus olivieri its correct name is crocus olivieri gray subsp istanbulensis b mathew i have corrected it i hope the anonymous user will not change it again best regards to reply hi r ginald if you hadn't arrived on the scene i was going to ping you i removed the turkish image and link since i didn't think they were germane but i left it to you to fix the taxonomic details does mathew's classification as it appears in the article contain all the known species of crocus hi river the page contains all the recorded species but not the infraspecific taxa i e the numerous subspecies originally crocus olivieri subsp istanbulensis was for this reason not included for consistency reason including it required to mention also as i did the two other subspecies olivieri and balansae the issue is if we want to be fully consistent we have to mention also all recorded subspecies with their distribution as for that of c olivieri among others the numerous subspecies of the variable c biflorus a niggling work i am afraid that the page will become too scholastic your advice about this issue best regards to reply ps you can find a quite complete list of species and their subspecies on the ncbi taxonomy browser type crocus in the search for bar to reply thanks for the link that's a great resource i don't think we should worry about its being too scholastic my main concern would be with consistency i'm not sure if there are comparable articles that also list all subspecies the information about subspecies certainly should be available on wikipedia but should it go in the main article or in the more specific articles about each species of which there are now only a few i don't know for consistency reasons i have added the other subspecies reported in the ncbi taxonomy and cited the source i agree that additional paragraphs or articles should be written for the most representative species in which a detailed description of their subspecies would then be done as e g i have done in fr crocus to reply okay i'd be happy to help with creating new articles and refining translations if you want to go that route just remember i don't know what i'm talking about dear river i have removed again the the logo of the sultanbeyli district municipality that user terzinator had added again to crocus explaining the reason for doing it see user talk terzinator hopefully he she will not add it again best regards to reply thanks r ginald i don't do edit wars so i'm glad there's someone else diligently watching the page i see that the image appears to lack any copyright info or fair use claims i try to avoid any involvement with enforcement of image policies but if it gets added again i will see if it can be deleted on those grounds good comment i like this comment at wp blprfc toronto gosh that was quick thanks the timing was purely coincidental as for me i m waiting before reviewing and voting the thing seems to be growing exponentially though plus it s spread across so man