the problem is this is a discussion about article naming policy not history though historic and locally differing naming of this cartridge is worth mentioning or points of view my personal opinion is pointless since wikipedia already has a standard regarding naming ammunition articles this standard is a wikipedia method which deviates from c i p saami and nato standards to be honest c i p and saami do not even represent a population of billion people so the ideas and rulings of these organizations do not have to be followed by an encyclopedia intended for a global public