i'm going to break for a few hours and return in the hopes that you will either have marshaled an argument why we should prefer the headphones photo or given up on that photo almost five thousand words and i don't think i've heard one yet i'm glad that you found thargor's argument more compelling i didn't feel the need to repeat things he has already said what's more if you find his argument compelling it's most perplexing that you continue to insist on the outdated younger smaller michael brown that your eyes have so much trouble seeing talk contribs