this is not true mario roering and you know that very well i have presented you with the evidence the links etc the documents from the japan karate do federation are official and is a third party reference the way you keep putting this issue on my shoulders is manipulative and incorrect the claim is a valid one as has been explained shown etc according to the evidence if you dispute the reference fine but then please present another reference your aim in this or any other article in regard to genseiryu is not a noble one your aim here is to manipulate your way in and to delete and confuse everybody you should be stopped from editing period stop vandalizing and sabotaging the articles here