i've been banned permanently from wiki's wikipedia en help cannot join channel b you are banned a few days ago i was in wikipedia en help and protospam after insulting me repeatedly determined that my questions were not helpful or relevant after i asked him a wiki chatroom where editors contributor can go to discuss general issues re wikipedia not technical support which wikipedia en help is devoted to i did not know that at the time since then protospam has permanently banned me from entering the help chat room on wikipedia how long will this ban last is it permanent if so how am i supposed to get help i'm new to wikipedia and i'm sure i ask a lot of dumb questions i don't want to violate wiki guidelines but there are so many of them i make mistakes all the time there are a lot of authoritarian types in the help room and elsewhere on wikipedia mlpearc and nonsenseferret both questioned my notability after my wiki profile was nominated for deletion in by bondeas and after the decision keep it's humiliating to have to prove one's notability twice after the recommendation to delete i added more info that supported inclusion of i believe that led to the keep recommendation why have wiki editors questioned my notability two years after i was declared notable which is never temporary per wiki's notability guidelines thank you all very much sincerely franksanello