however calling my attempts to help and put this issue asside rubbish is not helpful or pleasant i would hope this is not an indicator that you do not wish us to work together i trust you read the content and now wish to address my points at talk shaw and crompton particularly the or so reliable published sources that state it is a town yet you believe without citing your sources that this is inaccurate which you can but this doesn't affect verifiability and inclusion on the article any way i really want you to pull out all the stops now and take the issue on with everything you have i have no problem at all with a healthy even heated debate but you need to cite your sources and at very least respond to other's counter points without this there is little scope in my view that your preferences will be implimented at all talk