comment you seem to be ignoring the fact that knowledgeable editors have already voiced the opinion that this material does not belong in the article so we could say that discussion is adequate and consensus has spoken to remove the material to elaborate the reason that it does not belong in the article is that it is entirely fiction that has not been corroborated by other ex scientologists that have done ot level viii so you have one made up story and one mention of said made up story the press the point here is are you trying to write an article on the subject or are you mainly interested in smearing scientology even to the extent of using known false material which is it