you're funny cat iron duke i'm not stoking anything the embers were still burning as you were the last one to comment here less than two hours before i made my comment above that romac exercised restraint by allowing you to have the last word is a credit to her to be sure i commmented here to let romac know that wehwalt made the pledge not to be involved in i p article enforcement in his rfa i didn't extort it from him he might have chosen not to make it and take his chances and see how he fared as it is he volunteered to make that pledge i view it as binding if i ever see him take admin action in the i p arena i will consider a breach of that pledge and will suggest that his admin tools be withdrawn from him for falsely advertising himself in the nom have a nice evening talk