ok ngo thanh nhan just wrote to me after reading the list of place names you want the traditional characters for he said however for a start you may want to ask for a list of vietnamese towns in chinese from the vietnamese embassy in china or the saigon giai phong newspaper or nhan dan which have a chinese edition or the tourist books in japanese chinese or korean a vietnamese chinese viet trung dictionary that has a list of geographic names by the way where did you get the name c ng long