im not discussing anything are u even from valencia uve got no idea what ure doing by replacing our language with another one u know how insulting that is for us wiping out our culture roots and identity u think this is some kind of stupid game you're the ones attacking us why cant u fucking leave us alone u come to valencia and say catalan is the same as valencian and u wouldnt get out alive we're tired of this catalan imperialism of absorbing other cultures like their flag senyera is actually aragonese this whole wikishit is so stupidly biased ive got many proofs that valencian and catalan are sister tongues but one does not come from the other however they're in spanish and my english is not that good to properly translate it nor ive got enough time to do it