should expand more on the idea however it should also state that most christians are opposed to it i'm not a christian myself in fact i've been a deist since the age of but christianity for me still holds value in the values of stoicism that it promotes personally i feel that shifting these values to support ones own rather shaky moral ground is rather pointless people can be a christian or they can be a hedonist the two are mutually exclusive hedonists also tend to have a great love for modernism including but not limited to such perverse artforms as modern music and modern and post modern art