gosh i am feeling really stupid right now seriously thank you both of your input i didn't realize that places like this would be a mirror site of here which explains why the wikipedia article was list like third or so darn wild i didn't catch the bottom where is said it was from here shoot i better read more closely and look for something like this kind of notification i used google scholar and took the top hits i will try to get back to the article today and fix what i did then i will try to add to the article wp reliable sources and hopefully add to the article in a positive way not like what i did yesterday which was a waste of time i am sorry i really was trying to help improve the article momoricks thanks for the other ideas for researching i think i will go this route adjust the changes i was doing yesterday and hopefully add to the article to improve it thank you both for telling me what i was doing wrong i really feel stupid i know i have said this already but the way i feel right now it deserves being restated anyways i will go back and see if i can add positive information to the article from reliable source thanks again so much talk