sandygeorgia with respect to the catholic church article and the good faith editors who respectfully disagree with karanacs positions you really have too much to say you are not even engaged in the article and barely know what is happening as revealed in your rejected arbcom complaint your persistent harrassment of me and xandar is bordering on bullying please stop cradling karanacs and defending her behaviour because a true friend helps their friend be a better person not hide their faults all i have ever done with karanacs is tell her when she has twice crossed the line that dispute is between karanacs and myself it is none of your business as for the cc fac one of the reasons why i think its progress has been stalled is because of karanacs and that is why i complained to her '''talk