replying here to avoid spreading the conversation over three talk pages good thinking re red linked list just to capture all the ones that have articles i'll do that i was planning on putting them up in alphabetical order i think this is best but if other disagree i can always put them up in order of latitude but full regionalisation is not something i'm prepared to tackle not with entries with all these lists i always include a remarks column so that brief notes can be added for entries that don't quite merit an article the list in ex convict school teachers in western australia is an example of that working really well snottygobble