well looks as though my block has finally expired my apologies to cuivienen cuvienen and for my incivility i'm quite tired of this argument frankly i've found it's no use putting forward all the logic in the world when adherence to redundant policies is the norm the link to the bom page was convincing anough for an admin to change it to cat however others disagreed on principle not logic while it's a shame i've decided i no longer care whether the public is deceived as to the strength of the cyclone so long as some of us aren't as for i agree with you entirely administrators should follow policy and avoid using their power to their advantage in an argument