links dharmabum and others seem to enjoy removing links from the article i am not a webmaster or even know one i found the site outside the wall on my space and since then have found it to be quicker on posting news and tour info then any of the other sites i think it deserves a link here with the others i must admit i messed up the link by missing a few rules to begin but since then have fixed that dharmabum said it seemed self promotion well i simply just copied the title of the page it is not self promotion since then i have written what features the site holds but it continues to be removed google stats do not legitimate how good a site is for info and this is not a rule by wikipedia so stop treating it as one thank you please keep the link i would suggest the link be removed until a consensus can be reached here i'll assume that it's not self promotion despite the earlier greatest site ever type description but regardless i would personally argue against the inclusion of the site for a variety of reasons wikipedia is not a link repository and guidlines suggest only one fan site for such an article and we already have far more than that no google hit within the first links in a pink floyd search and no alexa rating while not a set policy on wikipedia such rankings are often used to determine a site's notability when trying to decide whether to include the site in an article already well stocked with other high rated sites the only content on the site that is not easily available on far more popular sites is a selection of photos of people's tattoos while mildly interesting it's hard to argue that it increases the value of the pink floyd article itself as few people who read the article will be searching it out for information on pink floyd tattoos much content on the site is commerical marketing t shirts and the like this is clear in the discography which holds no information other than a simple list of the albums available on wikipedia itself anyway with links to purchase them to an amazon seller account the site in question is very low quality compared to the rest of the resource links confusing messy and difficult to navigate intrusive music with no way of turning it off and it has major compatibility problems with firefox and safari perhaps others that's what i've got to try that's my on this particular site a i'll double 's and even add in another penny to make it an even nickel it's a very sub par site and doesn't contribute anything to this article i will disagree with both of you while you claim only one fan site is appropriate it clearly states note fanlistings are generally not informative and should not ordinarily be included this fansite is very imformative and has more details on wanted details for example this site has details about a on an island live dvd with a direct link to saying david will record the rah shows for a dvd visit the other sites none of them have this info and this is just one instance you are wrong about it being the normal material also after paying attention to this site for sometime it has continued to be the first in announcing tour dates for rogers tour and apparently has already secured a interview with one of rogers bandmates while you may think that the videos on the site are annoying many fans love this i am one of them i cant think of another site where i can view much of the videos on this site you say its difficult to navigate and i laugh at that there is a simple naviagtion bar at the left hand side of each page just like fleeting glimpses bar also every site has a discography but very few have a videography this alon makes this site better then most so it has some comercial availability so what it still is a great source of info your google pink floyd rankings are a joke out of the first are not updated and far subpar then this site i wonder how many people search for pink floyd tattos probably far more then you think because i for one know of no other site that has this and i have picked a tat from the site to get myself this site deserves a link and i disagree with both of you also now that i think about it show me another site that streams davids mermaid gig or has each of his promo videos for tracks of the new album not even dg com has those avaialable anymore also how about the interview on the roger waters tour page link the other fansite that has this none do this site was also the first that had rogers complete touring band lineu