re giovanni pauli images c yeah i tried to get that deleted a while back but it was shot down unfortunately i think it's extremely unprofessional both on the part of wikipedia and the artist to have the spam listed in articles but whatever as for the specs template yeah i've kind of given up trying to herd the cats that keep adding fields i suppose it doesn't really matter in the long run when you consider that parametrized templates are no longer a hot button issue but it's certainly getting a bit disorganized i've actually stopped following wp air and removed myself from the list stopping by there only occasionally to bitch about things like assessments and the like anyway hope you had a good christmas