hi thanks for your comments on the other page the issue there is not so much my new article but commercial interests as some folks make good money with theology of the body books workshops etc which is admirable maybe we should do this with mariology but should not impede wiki articles i have not the slightest doubt on the poutcome of this one i think the topic to be of great interest in our context too as i see the dogma of the assumption more and more as the greatest triumph and next to the resurrection and ascencion of christ best guarantee for our own final destination i am working on similar pages on theology do you want to participate yes john's page is wonderful it confirms my intention of integration to the church fathers thomas aquinas and the popes but only when applicable yes you are right we should be grateful for what we were able to achieve in the month of may with her grace and now its turkey against germany the three time champions germans have a better team but the turks played two wonderfully emotional games giving everything winning with limited capacities truly amazing