thanks for the swift and thoughtful reply everything in the first part makes sense and to the second part i really like option the gregorian calendar is the predominant calendar in international trade and communication is succinct in your correct analysis of leaving out a trace of religion to avoid conflict it lacks any pov of preference in personal life and religion it is a fact rather than truth i'll take it but wait a bit to see if or when others chime in two makes consensus naught i'll check back in a day or two to see what has developed happy editing to you talk