ethnologue version valid from to contains different information from ethnologue version from onwards any person qualified to write on greece would know that there was no census in greece in they happen every years so the nearest ones were and and that the last time mother tongue and most frequently used language were asked in a greek census was the number for the mother tongue question the other number for frequently used language was even smaller did make it into ethnologue v but ethnologue v for reasons that can only be guessed pretty easily i may add chose to come up with a fake census and a figure in the k region anyone that has enough brains to pass a thesis examination for a ph d as taivo has is capable of looking at the differences between ethnologue v and ethnologue v and noticing suspicious changes based on sources dated before a clear example is in arvanitika v claims correctly i wish i knew how many speakers there were left a range between newmark to possible speakers trudgill and tzavaras v comes up with without a clear attribution what happened in or an explanation of how a language in clear decline increased in numbers moreover v creates a new category of k speakers of tosk albanian for the region of epirus this is now separate from arvanitika despite the fact that the page on arvanitika still includes the reference to a northwestern arvanitika dialect from v that could only have referred to the region of epirus there is a clear inference from the text as well that the inclusion of this new category is related to the political issue of the cham expulsion and the claims about orthodox chams finally the very concept of what these numbers mean is in doubt the north of the village of andros is mentioned for arvanitika bilingualism in our families ended with our grandparent's generation extremely few among our parent's generation could converse in arvanitika the rest retained a few words or curses and our generation still has those if at all to portray the area as arvanitika speaking is so misleading that it can only be done on purpose there are published books in greece by leftist greek journalists and amateur historians that refer to figures around k or even more for that matter for slavomacedonian speakers in greece again based on some dubious definition large agenda driven figures can also be found for vlachs and arvanites since fps taivo and jim sch and the rest of the gang are such experts on greece i leave it as an exercise to them to locate these sources and at least put a fig leaf on until then use of non existent census figure in ethnologue makes a mockery of the academic standards they so passionately purport to be trying to uphold