what about the great larry bird he was a point forward himself dec utc damn fellas paul pressey came to the nba after john johnsson retired from it jan utc i don't know about the inclusion of antoine and dunleavy jr as point forwards i think they're pretty much just plain old forwards these days mar utc how come magic johnson is not included in this page he was ' and played point guard opinions in this article i've reduced this article to a stub because it was full of uncited personal opinions please do not add a list of players whom you consider to be the greatest player ever in it's previous state this article named no fewer than players as the greatest everyone and their mother has a different opinion as to who the greatest player in baskeball history is if everyone got to add their favorite to the article it would be unmanageable please cite reliable references such as books newspapers or reputable magazines when making additions to this article unreferenced opinions have no place in wikipedia and will be purged thanks ''talk grant hill preceding unsigned comment added by magic is the best example of a point forward he's the guy on the floor that could play all positions and still run the offense lebron james grant hill lamar odom antoine walker are all guys in the league that are point forwards shawn marion and dirk nowitzki could also be considered point forwards kevin durant and brandon roy could develop into point forwards it could be argued charles barkley and michael jordan had some point forward skill both of them running their teams during crunch time although jordan will be remembered as the ultimate swingman which he clearly was than as a point forward which he was when he began his career and later became again with the wizards magic gave us showtime though he made the position what it is preceding unsigned comment added by dirk nowitzki and shawn marion point forwards that's just incorrect anthony mason was a great passing power forward not a point forward preceding unsigned comment added by what about point center i would like to see some information about the point center position certain centers have the offense go through them similar to point forwards preceding unsigned comment added by define having the offense go through them for point centers there are some great passing centers who the offense moves through shaq bogut duncan but i can't think of any center who regularly brings the ball up and runs the perimeter game which is the essence of a point also magic should not be listed as a point forward he is a big point guard and played as a big point guard and guarded other point guards the showtime lakers has michael cooper james worthy and byron scott starting at shooting guard and small forward putting magic at point guard most other point forwards particularly pippen and anyone who would qualify in today's game still have actual point guards on the floor with them though the ball handling is reduced and they're often combo guards think ron harper boobie gibson delonte west so magic is still a pg despite his height and not a point forward preceding unsigned comment added by hidayet t rko lu played as point guard at playoffs he stands ft in m tall and plays in the small forward posit