thanks moonriddengirl wikidea i'm sure you're an excellent lawyer and i admire your goal to turn wikipedia into a superior reference work for law students it's one i share with one amendment wikipedia is not a legal resource for lawyers and law students it is not a casebook it is not a practitioner's text it is a work for the laypeople to explain as simply as possible in this case how the law works that's what you should aspire to with your articles and it's what i aspire to with mine the layperson is more helped by third party references and summaries than to them unintelligible case citations and full body quotations from judgments while such quotations and citations have their place this i feel uses such case citations well but i might be a teensy bit biased they are the obiter not the ratio