ok i notice last night about am or so wyss said to me 'goodnight ennis' which is just yet another personal attack unpunished of course anyway i followed your advice and have taken the 'challenge' to i am not asking you to comment i know you have to want to feel the need to 'keep in' with other wikis and i am just an anonymous brit or worse sollog arrrgh i am just bringing the challenge to your attention as i suspect wyss will avoid it and the post will be reverted and his or equivalent will not go to help the bereaved remember no comment required jan utc