if they are notable find a source that says that they are notable these list of favorite players should be removed from this page as well as from the other position articles dil who says these players are notable what criteria is being used to determine who is or isn't notable it's completely unsourced pov come to some consensus criteria for what is going to be considered notable and then add players back along with sources showing they meet these criteria these sections are completely unacceptable per wp a as they are currently written dil the notable player section is pure wp or and even if they meet a standard say all star game the year before there'll be other standards that makes other players notable see the soccer positions those all have lists and these lists can let people easily see some famous players without having to see another page the standard is those players have won awards before such as all stars such as tony parker mvps such as steve nash or all nba teams steve nash and billups new england black harry also agrees with me and to prove it see talk power forward basketball that's circular logic because soccer players have it basketball players should just because another user agrees with you means it should be in there i'm opposing based on the notion that wikipedia should not be setting the criteria on who is a notable pg and who is not regarding soccer positions wp othercrapexists if it's a list of players that have won mvp's gone to all star games or made the all nba team then it should say that it is a list of those things not that they are notable without clarification it's just going to be a section which is constantly in a state of edit warring because people want to see their favorite players on the list also please note that i started a new discussion on wikipedia talk wikiproject national basketball association this isn't something that should be decided on an article talk page if the resulting consensus is going to affect multiple pages within the scope of a project dil there is no need to describe the other point guards who have won the mvp as much shorter oscar robertson was also tall for the position at ' steve nash is taller than many point guards at ' magic johnson was an anamoly at pg because he was so tall it is confusing to describe the others as short simply because they did not have his height preceding unsigned comment added by talk contribs iverson allen iverson is listed as a point guard steve blake plays the sg on the nuggets steve blake signed with his old team the portland trail blazers chris paul what about chris paul he was rookie of the year he should be on the notable list i added john stockton's name to this page he was at least one of the top point guard to ever play preceding unsigned comment added by jordan in the last sentence of the last paragraph of the offense section begins with jordan's habit of who is jordan i would guess micheal jordan but i do not know that i am not knowledgeable about basketball so i do not know how many player's named jordan there have been