while there is much to criticise on this entry and yet still much of interest i'll refrain from personal attacks you removed my response to your rationale for removing this item once again i provided confirmable references michael smyth similarly should be listed in the same way as should david buching sorry i was there in the role you were not the co ordinator roles that mike smyth and i had during the period indicated were the roles that actually ran the group these were the senior key roles we had fred phillips in an invited honorary role which he graciously accepted once again my purpose here is not to give prominence to my own admin roles in australian ufology i have persisted with this exercise principally on the basis of highlighting how difficult is is to get substantiated material onto this article