heh i guess i jumped right in anyway i find two logical flaws in your argument first just because some bulgarian editors may be misinterpreting or abusing the category system why should we second what if every article were subjected to your line of thinking for instance what if someone decided that category communes in cluj county was too inaccessible a place for apahida and decided to add in category geography of romania and then someone did the same for iclod and pretty soon that category ended up with entries well for one it would become pretty useless don't you think which is why we have category populated places in cluj county category cluj county category geography of transylvania but not incidentally category geography of moldavia and category geography of wallachia everything in its proper place plus there's an actual guideline meant to be followed wp cat which speaks of the general rule that pages are not placed in both a category and its subcategory i understand your problems with the system but it is what we have for now ok i've tried it on ziridava talk