my thought about the horrible 'priests' conundrum is to have 'priests' as a redirect disambig term and not even deal with it as at present and simply distribute categories to the allegiances the 'priests' may have so it is a redirct to 'catholic priests' protestant etc the scope of the word goes well out of christianity and religion is even limited on some of the more far fetched items as a category it should lead to the subisidiary immediately and not go up itself in qualifications on the page just an idea but i understand what you mean about cfd though will ponder further thanks suro