which four editors are you suggesting aren't connected to waldorf and i assume you mean anthroposophy as well here btw i edit other articles as well re the advert tag i'm not the only editor on the list that has insisted it should stay i think it was fergie who replaced it last time again please stop removing it until there is agreement we're a long ways from removing the brochure talk it would be better if you didn't continulally reverse the edits that are getting away from the brochure language then it would be possible to actually remove the tag