well you have long given me a headache and it doesn't seem that you are ever going to fully understand why you've been wrong to remove this information so i should stop replying to you and let you get the last word here on your talk page however you did state for some of the claims there are evidence but others there are not so that's a start to you seemingly acknowledging your belief that there is some valid evidence for the material you dispute the text doesn't state that men don't know how to it states something that kinsey concluded and it is clearly attributed to kinsey kinsey attributed this difference to female partners knowing more about women's sexuality and how to optimize women's sexual satisfaction than male partners do we are allowed to mention researchers' conclusions and this conclusion by kinsey is especially relevant to the text it's also what i just stated above obviously women generally know what makes other women feel good sexually which is what the researchers are saying it is your opinion and a case by case basis that having orgasms most of the time during sex does not equal sexual satisfaction in a relationship i state that because it's not the same case for everyone it is also your opinion that lesbians experience less sexual satisfaction in a relationship the sources you kept removing state the very opposite of what you assert about sexual satisfication in lesbian relationships and because they do you've asserted that they are biased and or unreliable they are not those sources are what most of the research states about sexual satisfaction in lesbian relationships most of the sources do not state what schwartz stated about sexual satisfaction in lesbian relationships not even half of reliable sources state that her view is a minority view and it's also an outdated view because of what i've noted already it hasn't been replicated new research on lesbian sexuality consistently reports the opposite of schwartz's assertion about sexual satisfaction in lesbian relationships and i reiterate that schwartz was focusing on long term lesbian relationships not just on lesbian relationships in general the article is not a comparison article it mentions a few comparisons to heterosexual sex in the research section because these comparisons are notable and especially relevant to the topic this is because researchers have often studied that aspect of lesbian sexuality to help them better understand it as compared to heterosexual sexual activity they obviously didn't see that it was needed or especially relevant to compare lesbian sexual satisfaction to gay male sexual satisfaction and since gay male couples don't include women i can see why they felt that way they were comparing how women are sexually satisfied by a different sex gender they brought heterosexual couples into it it wasn't wikipedia that did that and we should report on it because they did and made it a big part of studies on lesbian sexuality simply listing stats doesn't sufficiently inform readers of this information unless those stats are as detailed as the text and you really need to stop citing that discredited schwartz study as though it is a majority or widely held view among researchers it isn't but i agree that it should be included in the article we don't have to list stats for the lines you quoted above what we have to do is follow the sources if the sources had stats then maybe we would include those but including them also doesn't mean that they would be traded out for the text material the other elements of lesbian sexual encounters include more full body sexual contact line is about lesbians only and it's supported by two reliable sources i understand that you take objection with that paragraph because it's stating that women in same sex sexual relationships are more satisfied sexually and in life in general but it's what the sources say still it would probably be better to attribute that to the author s reporting it we don't have to present a survey that asked heterosexual women and lesbian women their sexual satisfaction levels that is covered by the sources and only material especially relevant to the topic of lesbian sexual practices should be included and yeah you have made claims and no you don't present sources not generally for sources all you've done is repeatedly note the schwartz study no matter how many times i point out to you that it is discredited and you state that many other sources show the opposite of the material you kept removing if there were many other sources of such nature you'd be able to present one other than the schwartz study which is not an opposing study as in a study directly going against what the studies in the article have found as for adding claims to the article you changed wordin