hi wifione thanks so much for patiently addressing all my comments and sorry i didn't get back to you earlier as i understand it now the relevant guideline here seems to be wp undue and the content may not satisfy the requirement of majority view also i now understand your point about involved parties in a court case becoming primary sources on topics related to the case per the notw example i'm still not convinced that bar bench is not a reliable source i'll try looking into that a bit more but i see your rationale for not using it particularly in case of a blp a somewhat speculative question suppose that if and when the court case is settled and if there is sufficient media coverage of that would the lawsuit itself be notable enough for an article that would not be subject to blp restrictions anyways thanks again for helping me out talk