stub category names you keep saying that but it flies in the face of facts on the ground in a large number of cases and especially of all recent trends at sfr and p in fact if i recall correctly you seemed perfectly happy with a number of such renames yourself dare i say until it started to impinge upon the geo stubs those aside the number of cat names that aren't reasonable attributive usages rather than necessarily adjectival as i've pointed out more times than i care to remember are not i don't believe as daunting as all that what is completely demoralising is to get part way and then to discover someone insisting that the old way was best let's go back to that actually quite an apt summary of the moral lesson of wikipedia in general