marshaln response dear agk thank you very much for the note you left on my talk page i am currently busy with work studies to provide a thorough response so i will provide a quick list lecen submitted the rfm yesterday from my side of the world about a day has passed and yet the user has been frantically badgering people with demands of action and his distraught actions hold no more common sense than a squirrel looking for a nut lecen incorrectly claims that i am a user involved in the dispute my only contributions to the article include a copy edit of the lead and a reversion of lecen's vandalism the dispute itself is between lecen and cambalachero i am a third party to the dispute lecen claims that i am not a third party because i am in favor of cambalachero's point of view the people in the dispute resolution noticeboard were mostly if not all against lecen he conveniently tries to ignore these things but i think it would be good to make a list of them here go phightins mediator i advocated your position marshaln and refuted his lecen for the most part in the drn amadscientist commentator m y intitial concern is balance by lecen the editor seems to have more than a less than disinterested pov on the subject and it does certainly show in the editors remarks posts and requests the first source i found is also the first source prsented in the third opinion and appears terribly cherry picked binksternet commentator use wp attributepov to name those who say rosas was a dictator and to name those who say he was something else i don't think it is fruitful to demand that historians be found who say directly 'rosas was not a dictator' wdford commentator it seems to me just from this thread that a number of sources do not regard rosas as a dictator on that basis alone i feel we should have a statement that some see him as a dictator and others as something else i would recommend that we therefore mention that both opinions exist re rosas and hopefully the article contains enough background as to let the reader understand both perspectives in his original historical context based on all this points i see no need for any further mediation plenty of third opinions have already been provided including my own to the dispute between between lecen and cambalachero lecen asked for third opinions he got them and yet continues to game the system looking for someone to agree with him i kindly request you agk to please stop lecen from wp gaming the system regards talk