i don't think that you understand that all of the information that you've obtained from your sources most of which are defunct originally obtained that information from clan young officers if wikipedia's point is to be historically accurate you must remove this page along with many other pages about clans that were founded recently if your point is to rehash a list of scottish clans you need to relax a little and accept data from the sources that created the data i'll say this very slowly clan young was founded in it never existed before that now please explain to me why your opinion about og may stand while the opinion of a past president of clan young does not because it comes from an out of print paperback written by someone who merely obtains material for travel guides from legitimate publications such as provided by douglas in any case since og is now acceptable perhaps you'd like to clear up the smears applied to me by that jackass brianann macamhlaidh and maybe transfer and apply the bans and reprimands to him