joseph mccabe criticisms lack of npov i previously added criticism to this section from joseph mccabe drawing from his writings in history's greatest liars this was dismissed as being a fringe viewpoint this i disagree with i'd first note the lack of criticism of st francis and franciscans demonstrating a lack of npov something commented on by others and also a conflict of interest in marauder deleting these comments where he seems to act with a conflict of interest being a devoted catholic and member of a secular franciscan order as noted in his bio i do not see him as someone to act with impartiality in considering criticisms of franciscans i now look at whether joseph mccabe's views can be considered as fringe joseph mccabe has an entry in wikipedia n wikipedia org wiki joseph mccabe and was himself a franciscan monk till the age of he therefore draws on his own background in critiquing the franciscans and is a recognised scholar of this particular comment the origin is not joseph mccabe alone he draws from the middle ages by professor james westfall thompson where on page he says with wealth the old familiar evils that had corrupted the older orders corrupted the franciscans and dominicans too he also draws upon the writings of father hoetzappel a historian of the franciscan order not to mention his own pertinent background and experiences in this light i consider the comment i introduced earlier as appropriate to wikipedia providing a range of views and importantly criticism from a recognised scholar in will engage in this talk page but consider other processes within wikipedia and seek the involvement of others within wikipedia if need be