i believe that much of the content of this article is either irrelevant too specific or condensable into smaller chunks a lot of it consists of what looks to be personal correspondence quotes first hand recollections of events name dropping forum posts copied verbatim and so on further i suggest that since higher profile languages such as c and java do not have seperate history pages the relevant information in this article be relocated to the main article if for some reason it is determined that this page should be retained i suggest that it be renamed to something along the lines of history of the dylan programming language to better conform to the standard thoughts