those are good points can how i phrase things be better probably what do i have against an interaction ban yes the stigma we're dealing with an individual who has shown she will not present a correct picture or a full picture even when it is shoved under their nose and even then the wp competence is not there to accept these things do i think i'm the sole wielder of the sword not one bit what i think is the part that bugs me is that a iban will be used as a blunt force trauma to accomplish the ends lightbreather is trying to accomplish i think that tkop and rich f really nail the nail on the head lightbreeather is trying to end run around the community and manipulate the situation to her goals i have no such agenda i saw mass canvassing separate pages alone on to different pages aimed only at women and not the community at large edits separate on including at least i have on my watchlist is that wiki hounding it is if you believe lightbreather the second part of this conversation i would prefer to have in a private forum with you because i don't want that part twisted and manipulated i am sending that part by email