the or the re stated proposal it seems that there is some confusion as to what is being proposed with some editors believing the statement the band s name is the beatles to be a counter argument to the proposal in fact the statement is a premise of the proposal so i ll try to re present the argument more clearly premises the band s name is the beatles the band s name is not subject to any unusual capitalisation rules were it otherwise there would be wp rss commenting on the fact the band s name is used in wikipedia music articles mos music is the manual of style a style guide for wikipedia music articles mos music names definite article instructs that for band names starting with the definite article mid sentence per the mos the word the should in general not be capitalized and provides for exception only on a usage basis not a band basis conclusion when the name the beatles is used in wikipedia music articles the word the should not be capitalized mid sentence excepting the specific constructs detailed in mos music proposal follow the mos per the above conclusion notes the benefit in accepting the proposal is per the mos more consistent usage and formatting throughout music articles and wikipedia as a whole per wp ccc editors need to re examine each proposal on its own merits not on what influenced a past consensus