no problem the template is still pretty much an ongoing experiment and we're working on trying to make it a little simpler and user friendly and to improve the instructions that show up above the edit window right now if you have any thoughts on what works and what is confusing or ideas about what might make it easier to use please don't hesitate to either leave me a message or comment at template talk dyksuggestion where there are several ongoing discussions about how to improve the template for a quick answer to the problems you were having the fields such as and don't need any wiki markup such as brackets the template puts that all in by itself so for example the exact code i used to make the template show up the way it does now is as follows subst dyksug article john johnson fur trader creator parkwells hook that the fur trader ''' john johnston fur trader john johnston ''' had such a large library in sault ste marie michigan that his children used it to learn about classic british authors hope this helps talk contribs