stubs first of all let me say that you were way more polite about that than i expected before i created the stubs i checked through the wikipedia wikiproject stub sorting pages to ensure that they followed the guidlines laid out there but i found my self very disturbed by the amount of control the project is attempting to exert i have nothing against the members and i am sure that the aims and goals of the project and the people involved with it are only trying to help wikipedia however i find the idea of having to ask permission to edit is un wikipedia like we trust editors to create articles complex templates categories and upload material but to create a stub type they have to ask permission do you not find it a bit strange that you need to ask permission wikipedia stub types for deletion log april to delete a category update nine templates and create the correct category it was an obvious error and after looking through the notes i made when preparing and found that i had noted it was supposed to be central africa anyway i will take care of the renaming and fix the templates for the middle africa have a gorilla