talk well we should include both names i think it is quite likely that vlachs refer to themselves as vlachs when dealing with serbs since this is the term that serbs generally refer to them but that in their own communities they are rom ni and that they do not declare romanian on the census either because they see themselves as separate from the romanian nation state or because the believe that vlach is the name of their ethnicity in serbia in the same way that roma may declare themselves gypsies the first option is more likely ' i agree that we should include both names i know that some vlachs refer to themselves as rumani in their language but i am not sure that all of them use this name for themselves it would be the best that we know names which vlachs use for themselves in their own language dialect i read that vlach language even had its own script based on the greek script some years ago but today vlach have no written form and vlachs use either standard romanian either serbian for writing talk without a doubt in their own tongue the vlachs say they speak romanian rumanesce there is no such thing as 'vlahesce' whether the vlachs are romanian is essentially a political not an ethnic question ethnically they are romanian however they have lived for two centuries under serbian rule during this time they lost religious services and schooling in their own language which many used to have before the serbian government and serbian orthodox church have been applying a systematic and unrelenting program of assimilation for vlachs romanian personal names were forbidden by the orthodox church and this prohibition continues to this day last names family names were created by edict in the late th century throughout serbia since they didn't exist before all last names had to take the form ending in 'ic' usually using the father's name as the root for most vlachs this concealed their non serb origin though certain glaring exceptions continue for example floric jepurovic st a ngacilovic etc the majority of vlachs some do not consider themselves romanian but serbian to a large extent this is because they do not wish to be seen as unpatriotic or disloyal in addition since they have no education in their own tongue many believe that modern culture cannot be expressed in their native tongue it is meaningless to point to official serbian statistics about the 'vlach' tongue or the number of vlach speakers too many vlachs suffer from the stockholm syndrome code why is iso code none iso code none ethnologue code none constantly deleted i see no objection in having this text as above because if there isn't any iso iso and ethnologue code what's the point of mentioning it chinese term ni hao the chinese word lu m n y y means romanian not vlach and i don't see what the point of linking it here is vlachs are not a recognised ethnic group in china and the vlach language of serbia is not spoken there significantly if at all thanks ' the chinese word was added as part of a revert edit war as u can see in the history of the article seems ridiculous to be there but before removing it consider which name u will write first the uncited alleged name they are said to use or the official name the serbian state uses it's about as ridiculous as the rum nesce rum ne te in their own designation we don't know that's their own designation we could have the designations by which the romanians call them they certainly are relevant but we don't know what they call themselves greier's pov pushing has no place here