re intermediawiki linking re my talk first off please don't get mad at me for what i say below i say it in good faith and most likely a naive view it seems to me that you're going about interwiki linking to the other wikimedia sites in an overly complex way wouldn't something along the same style as the inter language wikipedia links i e in the bar on the left of the page be far better and much more elegant not only would it reduce the amount of clutter on the page it would also remove any issues with categories being named differently as the interlanguage links deal with this as a routine matter additionally there are a number of bots that would be able to propagate these interwiki links i e you'd add one set of links on say wikipedia and a bot could propagate them to all of the other sites i can see two issues with this it requires developer changes to the mediawiki code it's not possible to use tracking categories hopefully the first one of these shouldn't be too difficult to arrange and if inter wikimedia ing becomes popular i think that the benefit of the tracking categories is fairly minimal or am i misunderstanding what you're doing the above works nicely if you're just linking similar templates together and even if you're making sure that they have similar functionality however if you're making sure that all of the templates are exactly the same it's not so good in this case a system like that used at help link would be better having a single master copy the best place i can see for this is on the meta which is then copied over to all of the mediawiki wikis every so often that copying could be done by a bot say every hours with the template being flagged for human attention if it's been modified anywhere but on meta of course extra care would then have to be taken if the template calls were modified '' mike i be putting this whole section in wt tsp but the short answer is first that i concluded last fall this belongs on meta and much of our 'good stuff' is already there and many of our best template programmers contribute there as well omegatron cbd etc but here people know me and so this is where it began like david rl called demanded and i went wiki missing much of last fall and was busy with mediation stuff when i first returned to having regular time for wiki's then iterwikitmp grp hit tfd so that boot in the rear restarted things i'd really rather be working on categorization between here and the commons sigh life is not a selection of first choices most of the time we're lucky to be able to get one selection in our top fifteen i'll address your points on wt tsp but thanks for the interest and input i like that idea of intersister interwiki's as for 'what i'm doing' the wp tsp has new revision that may help communicate the focus as i see it this is really a local need as much as one off in the smaller sister's though wikispecies and wikiversity much need template expertise and libraries ttfn nkb