hi e thanks for clarifying your vote on the pro life talk page above and beyond the call of duty sarek and ohio are giving you good advice here as the leading expert on wp civil i should know ha ha ha never call anyone an asshole like i did or liberal scum like you did you need to learn very quickly how to be more subtle you are swimming in a sea of editors and i know you know this who actually believe that the new york times for example has no bias so swim carefully and avoid describing other editors too bluntly thanks again speak ps to sarek and ohio don't bite the newbies speak