but there's something i really don't understand here doesn't the notability have to be established in the article this whole come on we all know it's google etc argument in meta discussions not backed up in the article make me genuinely uneasy i had to bully the most vocal opponenet of go and proponent of go into actually lowering himself to making positive contributions to the go article instead of throwing him weight around outside it there's something very wrong with this when it leaves an article on the site that indefinitely fails to justify its own inclusion when i'm working hard challenge after challenge to defend a language i honestly believe is of note