versud on talk abecedare dab has said that i wrongly claim for verse while monier williams gives dab is right mw forgot to mention but it is mentioned times in rgveda thelast being in comparison in its all its variations occurs only times if i know primary sources do not charge me of or it will be dishonest to apply rules just to prove your point i may cite many secondary sources too eg sayana or wilson who have duly translated mw accomplished a great work but there are some lapses for which dab should not blame me for ignorance vinay jha