assume good faith does not mean have blind faith despite the facts by repeatedly for months citing a book published by st martin's press new york feeling your pain as a source of chapter long damning criticism of the national civilian community corps loverofart was abusing the name of a respected publishing house and misleading wikipedia readers that st martin's press would publish a book does not of course imply that no competing or contradictory facts exist but it does imply that the information has survived a responsible vetting process by fact checkers and lawyers by the way according to the flap copy of the book feeling your pain at least as published in hardcover by st martin's press the writing of the author bovard has been denounced by fbi director louis freeh the secretary of commerce the secretary of agriculture the secretary of housing and urban development the white house aids czar as well as by the chiefs of the equal employment opportunity commission the drug enforcement administration the federal emergency management agency and the u s international trade commission as is now clear feeling your pain does not even mention nccc or the national civilian community corps except in the footnotes referring to one speech by then president clinton not exactly a source of documented criticism of a program he signed into law in a chapter devoted to what was then members of americorps not the corps members of nccc so to dbiel and che nuevara it took a lot to get me to sound off about loverofart i responded calmly to his repeated rants about me saying i was foaming at the mouth my writing was lunacy fluff and similar crap at this point his editing of the national civilian community corps has been conclusively demonstrated as biased and maliciously distorted his doctoring of quotes into misleading criticisms of the national civilian community corps quoting nccc as having been labeled a fraud in an article he cites that does not mention nccc should disqualify him from being part of this group when i read what he wrote and posted at wikipedia quoting the author of feeling your pain as calling nccc a fraud in an article he cites untrue saying the author devoted an entire chapter of his book to criticism of nccc untrue in a book published by st martin's press even i started to doubt the litany of glowing reports from credible and verifiable sources that i had read about this organization someone unfamiliar with positive reports about nccc would have been even more likely to greet news of the demise of nccc something ardently sought recently by persons using the same kinds of arguments loverofart posted with detachment if not pleasure that his statements quotes about nccc are now known to be false and misleading means that he no longer enjoys an assumption of good faith so i would like you to spare me your lectures about my supposed sins no information is better than misleading information as jimbo wales liked to say loverofart has no business mauling the content of this page nor does wikipedia have any business disseminating his posts i am perfectly ready and willing to work respectfully and cooperatively with any editor who has not used the vicious and underhanded methods that loverofart has resorted to i have shown a willingness to respond to your editorial concerns dbiel wanted more notable sources i posted a number of them quickly including citations from the baltimore sun the ny times the washington times and an arizona newspaper news outlets reflecting a spectrum of points of view loverofart discounted all of the baltimore sun citations saying none were notable i don't maintain that my copy or my view of what should be at the nccc page is perfect or unassailable or that other's work has no place i have labeled some posts suggested edits i have no problem with honest content that is in context that runs counter to my perspective but loverofart is clearly willing to resort to dishonest or at the very least grossly misleading editing to ensure that his view prevails my editing reflects my perspective but it is not dishonest i present information that is verifiable and accurate to the best of my ability if i make a mistake and i sometimes do i try to correct it and i would welcome the correction of others i do not want to be have a part in disseminating inaccurate or misleading information i left loverofart's criticisms page on the nccc article for a long time until i could verify whether or not it was accurate that is the mark of responsible editing dbiel i respect your knowledge of the wikipedia way of doing