to philknight that's ridiculous just take one look at the article any other point of view besides the russian one would do some good i also didin't see a dispute except with russian poster whom i believe are too brainwashed by their own government controlled media to even have a rational discussion that's what happened to the rest of the editors on the article they gave up trying to reach a consensus and that's why it's so pro russian thanks for clearing that up and showing that you both have a blind eye for the obvious i might rewrite the whole article with dicussions in the talk page at another time but i doubt that will be productive since most of the editors there have no common sense and often turn a blind eye to any kind of information that their own media such as rt doesn't promote if don't get banned for irrelavant reasons again ofcourse