el c didn't revert his page which you would notice if you looked he kept the bear the user at the second page didn't revert some other bozo did zscout did revert and asked me not to i agreed and we had a discussion very civil as for louisiana up yours i got that from google news and more ridiculous things could happen assume good faith as for civility here i refuse to be civil to people who aren't civil to me simple fact i would not many admins also use this policy el c and i have had a great relationship ditto with kim and redwolf why because they earned my respect by showing me respect that is how it works