science is about using empirical arguments and data to examine and test falsifiable hypotheses aids denialism has moved out of the realm of science if it was ever part of this realm the scientific arguments made by aids denialists were best described by the editor of pnas when confronted with duesberg's paper if you wish to make these unsupported vague and prejudicial statements in print so be it but i cannot see how this would be convincing to any scientifically trained reader this is currently a sociopolitical rather than a scientific movement and has been for some time '''''' talk