user talk stpaul personal attacks i find it absolutely hypocritical that you percieve the french contribution to england as one of oppression and nothing else whilst including the irish whom would object to england in respect to the same percieved issue you have insulted the irish by not affording them the same position you afford yourself as regards the french you wholly capitalise on your own fantasies and call anybody else's neutrality to be pov pushing you do not believe in seeing that others have equality with your standing but sure get upset when it is not percieved to have been given you by others oh how democratic and enlightened such attitudes are you'd make a fine diplomat governmental practices of power delegation vs restriction means nothing in respect to ethnic relations they exist irrelevantly therefore your arguments are jingoistic and pov supremacism i am simply supporting the consensus which is to only include nations of the british isles as a matter of fact i think the germans are a lot closer to us than the french but someone else has been trying to argue the opposite and at the same time push all sorts of medievalist aristocratic fantasies tharkuncoll brittany is not a nation of the british isles and hasn't been you are a teutonicist who revels in the hanoverian age of aristocracy ref england's identity began with tribes from southern scandinavia not northwestern germany aka hanover brunswick luneburg westphalia you rewrite history to serve your whig history revisionist political schemes i have no aristocratic fantasies unlike yourself you want the celtic nations to assimilate into the english spectrum and co opt their identity the way the french co opt roman gaul as an identity oh the hypocrisy continues you hate the mediaeval example but are ardent defender of the new world order in saying one thing and doing another you rewrite history to commit hypocrisy condemning the actions of one party towards your percieved polity and then adopting such policies towards other ethnic peoples mediaeval my arse you are guilty of those accusations you level towards the french you have no right to talk all of these contrivances only serve me satisfaction with the french legacy because you have rediscovered the wheel and thought it magnificent vive la france et d'angleterre goddamn allemagne et faux royaume de hanovre consensus my arse your barbarian heroes had consent of the common irish people propaganda at its finest