this is the edition many hardcore punk musicians took influence from the ramones and their style of playing both keith morris and greg ginn were inspired to start their own band because of the ramones greg ginn saw the ramones basic approach to music said ramones they inspired us keith and myself saw the ramones when they first toured la in after we saw them i said if they could do it we could do it many early hardore bands from washington dc such as s o a minor threat and the bad brains were also influenced by the ramones it was common for hardcore punk guitarists to use johnny ramone's downstroke major barre chord guitar playing an example of this would be lyle preslar ian mackaye on the topic of lyle preslar's guitar playing said lyle played six string bar chords it wasn't three strings the ramones were greatly respected by many hardcore punk bands and they even went on tour with a couple such as rick kids on lsd the minutement and black flag