ok i was a away for about an hour and i see that a lengthy discussion has started i am reading it now s marchall i relisted because as stated in the debate otrs had received complaints from the subject of the article i felt that it needed wider input the other three that you linked had blanket votes protesting the mass nomination i closed some of these as debates as keep but these particular discussions only had the blanked comments i'll look and see what the other issues and reply shortly talk