not enough in line citations perhaps you might like to comment on my stance over here re image anotherversionofthepast jpg i saw your post to demon regarding this image i cannot undelete the image because of wp fuc b the image has not been reduced in size i also believe it fails in that it directly competes with the commercial opportunities of the copyright holder is also jumping out at me because the summarized text in the article serves the same purpose as the image there is not critical commentary about the design of the sight or visual representation of the image in the article chronology of the year zero alternate reality game therefore the exact image you uploaded isn't appropriate for use on wikipedia and a cropped or reduced size image may theoretically be appropriate but in the proposed article would just be decorative and against out non free content policy sorry but i hope this explanation helps talk thanks very much for the reply i understand your fair use concerns and hopefully i can address all of them fuc b agreed if the image is undeleted i'd be happy to reduce it's size and upload the smaller version but i can't really do that download the high resolution version until it is undeleted fuc there are no commercial opportunities at stake here because of the odd nature of the website as part of an alternate reality game the only logical copyright holder would be either nine inch nails entertainment or interscope records no one is making any money off of these websites in fact they officially have absolutely no connection to any company not even to the album year zero album that it is parallel to reznor himself has stated the arg is not a promotional device see year zero alternate reality game for more info on that fuc although the dates themselves are similar the text is not the whole point of the originating website another version of the past is that there are multiple perspectives of past events the text in the wp article is a dry point for point account neutral if you will the two versions of the time line presented on the website represent both extremes of the fictional issues at hand pro american pro government etc and on the other hand extremist rebellious reformatory etc the image provides the user an opportunity to see the pov agendas at work and compare it to what actually happened for example the new orleans floods are described as a faith based disaster on one hand and why bother with new orleans on the other i still believe the image wouldn't be appropriate here the site the image came from is copyrighted and was used to promote the album for the record company executives regardless what reznor said so fuc still concerns me and i'm not convinced of fuc either we can simply quote snippets of text without showing it if we want to discuss how the timeline is presented we'd need to discuss visual aspects of how things look in order to show an image imo i have asked another admin who is more versed in image policy to comment here so be patient for a nd opinion thanks for your reply talk greetings i was asked to comment here this image is essentially text with decorative flourishes as such i don't see how it could pass wp nfcc which requires that a non free image provide encyclopedic information beyond what text alone could convey i don't believe that the text alone quoted would be less informative than the image and i think that much text quoted verbatim would be a copyright violation which is another indicator that this image isn't allowed all the best talk random ok fair enough i know better than to argue with two admins thanks for taking the time to review the case lightning bolt discog i'm not trying to kill you it just looks like an unneccessary article to me in my opinion their discog isn't so cumbersome that it can't fit in their main article if you disagree fine i'm not that worried about totally fine i don't feel anywhere near strongly enough to care that much good luck on it cheers user mur