for time being let us leave the puppet business aside it is a totally different issue i am suggesting to jimbo privately back to the important one i can understand your problem which is weather we should include objectionable or controversial issues on wikipedia but who are we editors to decide that as long as the information is supported with facts and verifiable resources there shouldn't be any issues and no one can logically object our job is to give adequate representation to factual data weather somebody likes it or not dose not matter finally i am really not pressing for goa history on any article but what is wrong has to be objected and corrected with facts and verifiable resources objectionable or not that is what i believe in there cannot be a compromise when it comes to information i don't like the idea'''