i prefer to keep evthread cites to an absolute minimum with the goal of eliminating them altogether since they aren't considered reliable sources even if it is lee who is writing them i rather figured that mclawhorn wouldn't return i imagine being an active core member of seether is more along the lines of what he wants to be doing you know the interesting thing here is that science has been brought in as lead drummer with will hunt acting as secondary stage performer two drummers playing at once whaaa but hey i really appreciate you doing this legwork you might want to consider signing up with an account here and being an active editor though that is of course up to you the help is always welcome t c