i'm sorry if i gave you the impression i was an admin i'm not i'll reiterate what i've said above that this isn't a personal issue and i have no problems with these articles existing some day but in their current form i think it's a bad thing if when i tag them for afd i'll have to tag each individual page as well so you should notice on your watchlist if you have these there in case you want to try and argue to keep what there is talk e mail