dahn i really don't understand what you mean by saying that the people are counted twice i agree that the million romanian workers in spain and italy we ca't really count them as residents of these countries that's ok after my opinion the for spain and for italy are ok and we don't need to touch at that what me i propose and i'm asking all of you to express your opinion against of for i would like that we find for the estimations after the official dates the so wanted reliable attested and exactly figures on websites for each country and we decide here if the wbesite is ok or no i waiting your propositions and arguments arthur october