no actually we're not here for the same reason i don't have a lot of experience with wikipedia and i'm not here to do lots of work on wikipedia and i don't read their policies would take too much time not really interested i'm an armchair reader editor of wikipedia what i find with wikipedia these days is to find out some detail meat on a subject one has to go to the edits and look at stuff that has been deleted there seems to be a huge effort by people to delete stuff on subjects they know nothing about i just got through going around in circles with a guy i think he was also a wikipedia administrator where he deleted all sorts of stuff from the bio of anthony senter a convicted lucchese gambino mobster doing life for multiple murders the whole bio was taken from a well known book called murder machine and it was referenced at the bottom under references but this guy wanted everything deleted if it didn't have a citation at the end of each sentence i had to tell him that the entire article came from that one book and it's a good book written by a well known ny crime reporter what the guy administrator should have done is first known the subject matter then edit that way he would have known that the whole thing was in fact already referenced at the bottom i tried putting in a few links but i couldn't get them to work somebody else fixed them it's really too much work to go around and around in circles with these guys they seem to be busybodies as they delete and delete and delete when in fact the items are either well known to anybody that knows the subject matter like conrad's friendship with spilotro or they are very easily found the way you are running things here at wikipedia the only entries will be made by administrators like yourself who know wikipedia's syntax etc you will either not get edits from people like me or if you do they will be deleted i have no interest in spending the time to become a wikipedia administrator or wikipedia edit expert