developer access i actually agree that it makes sense to limit developer access to a fairly small group of people i nominated the number of individuals i did chiefly because i felt that angela and mav despite the value and extent of their contributions represent the same ideological wing of the wikipedian spectrum i thought it wise to diversity the group by including some wikipedians who have different perspectives like fred and martin and some who are longtime contributors but tend to stay out of wikipolitics altogether like johnowens and the anome by the way if you're serious about limiting the number of developers you may wish to prune the list to exclude people who were once very active but are no longer involved it isn't healthy or secure to include a bunch of emeriti on such lists mar utc