a poor start sorry the author seems to be totally mislead about both real history and the opinions on the table first of all no common two nations table is possible patent nonsense second i object the following the passage from the russian table speaking of the kievan rus as someone suggested earlier that table should by any mean include a disclaimer explaining very loose ancestry between kievan rus and modern russia this is the main disputed claim commented enough in other articles unacceptable for me and several other ukrainian and belarusian users regardless of any ukrainian military table none of them may include the red army this army was not only irrelevant to any of ukrainian states with very formal post wwii exception but also significantly anti ukrainian for instance red army units widely participated in war crimes against ukrainian population and anti soviet guerillas creation of the ukrainian table here has been a mere discussion trick not supported by all ukrainian users for instance see earlier alexpu's passage on trading the truth given all that i'd suggest you to delete your first draft and find other ways for compromising mr buckshot i thank you an innocent editor for your valuable attempts and hope for further cooperation on the issue