you see the problem arrisses in that most people dont see how 'just something else' is a fact when you give no reasoning just like you made a comment about my statement its only fair that i ask 'how are they not nu metal when they share the same musical propertys how are they 'something else' when they fit the description of nu metal ' wesley already knows that the genre needs a description otherwise its violating the policy about drawing a distinction without drawing a distinction alls i ask for as so the article isnt deleted is that it has a defination otherwise its effectivly just a list that goes on about the progenitorial history of nu metal