gotcha you're saying if it went republican it did so against the net effects of the jews what i'm trying to tie in here is if enough jews defected to make the difference e g if of jews going dem became because bush w bush etc had enough appeal i'm claiming jews can influence a race not only by going solidly dem but also by deciding not to the article i cited states the amount of time candidates spend on jews is precisely because they of them are swayable that being the case narrow republican victories could also be a result of jewish response to a candidate this being the case florida could be a result of jewish voters if either enough jews were attracted to w bush to throw the state the state actually went democratic by voter intents again this is possible but contentious or jews made the race close enough to require supreme court intervention which is itself a political outcome and has profoundly influenced the voting method there as well as affected ideas about w bush if any one of these three is possible we can't discount the effect of the jewish vote in florida