as always i appreciate very much the collegial way we work together i will say as anyone would notice that i tried to be polite and take the high road with that other editor in the beginning his disingenuous baiting and needling together with deliberately inane questions designed to elicit an intemperate response finally reached a point where they needed calling out and once his stalking me to other pages began i can't be polite anymore once the crazy behavior starts not sure what you mean by a still active editor but i do like the idea of grouping while i'm still uncomfortable with laundry listing a host of insignificant awards i've always been a big believer in compromise solutions and this seems a good one because it creates a necessary perspective i've suggested some initial possibilities at the wp film discussion we started some time ago do you think that'd be a good place to start