you're infringing owner b however if picture a is out of copyright you can take your picture c of it and picture c is your copyright which i think is why art galleries ban cameras they want to sell you their postcards i think this is right exactly chevin thanks watch out boothy doesn't start staulking and deleteing your stuff w o taking the burden of proof there is a copyright which picture incidentally i'm writing about uk law american law used to be marginally different for instance to have copyright in the uk you only have show your work to someone whereas in america i think you have to send it to the library of congress books anyway also you used to have claim copyright separately in different countries then there's publishing rights a whole different can of worms i think that a picture such as image pottsville court house gif is liable to be a double copyvio of the original postcard if still in copyright and of the gif image general i am not sure why scott and boothy have put this lot on my talk page i am watching and will give my considered opionion in due course utc rollback hi there could you please explain why you rollbacked this the category was earlier deleted via cfd process adiant august utc aren't you supposed to clear a category before you delete it i have edited the cat taking my precedent from here in my defence i would say that db see cfd debate would have been better than deleteagain which has a rather vague may have undergone a vote for deletion here note the missing link and after ten minutes of hunting i cannot actually find the original cfd debate but i am not dsperately bothered if you want to delete it straight away feel free but do provide a link to the cfd debate utc paleoparadoxia paleoparadoxia coming along nice regards scott more pics the footpath sign was a result of an abortive attempt to photograph the south portal of the milford tunnel i did not think the golfers would take kindly to my walking across their fairways and i am not sure how else to get to it when i went train spotting i used to walk along the edge of the field at the opposite side off the milford road opposite the signal box the north portal is said to be prettier and you seem to have caught it in a rare moment when it wasn't deep in shade i like the train gives it a bit of movement there are loads of photos around but they are all copyright my solution is to link to websites that are lkely to be permanent picture the past has a photo of toadmoor tunnel which really shows the elliptical shape would show ambergate station as it is now belper and duffield have been similarly erased i'm sure i should know what chatter is i have this feeling it's limestone pebbles from the quarries that you'd use for a driveway i'll have to ask around or perhaps we could ask on the voices bbc programme that's coming up are the other images mentioned at available for gfdl uploading the buxton article could certainly use a picture of the cresent rob vincent why did you remove the speedy tag from rob vincent i do not see anything in that article as it stands that looks like a claim of notability to me also it appears that you used the admin rollback tool as i understand it this is only supposed to be for vandalism my addition of the speedy tag was in good faith and in no way vandalism even if you disagree with it i have been fairly active on new page patrol and on vfd and i was active in the debates on the creation of wp csd criterion a i created i have also been consistant in advocating strict application of the csd not favoring speedy tags on undesireable articles that do not quite meet the criteria i have made this point several times on vfu and vfd so i don't think my speedy tags shoul