so you're dismissing people who think it could undermine the anyone can edit philosophy but not the ones who are making impossible proposals for trials besides it's a moot point brion asked for two thirds of the community before he switched it on at the current rate you need fifty more people to agree jimbo you're bound by devolution of the decision to the community and brion's two thirds requirement and ethically by wikipedia's standards for closing discussions while the community is in weak support of fr is weak support for most community decisions it hasn't fit the marker brion asked for nor are you an impartial judge in this having supported the proposal beforehand please devolve the consensus interpretation to either the arbcom or the bureaucrats and don't ask brion to switch it on until his requirement has been fulfilled ''''''