another theory of mine owner of this site the reason why doug has now appeared out of nowhere is due to the fact that the other people couldn't revert after a certain point or else they would break this edit rule notice how now this fellow doug has appeared blocked then reverted the last edit i made this i believe is an error of the system it allows people to collaborate the reality is roux i suspect has some agenda wikipedia must understand that the trance scene is currently being sidestepped by the house scene in a major way mainland europe as of has practically lost it's trance festivals the rosters on the mainstages are almost exclusively house now trance generally has contained since the year some of the most loyal 'drones' in the dance market the type of people who dislike anything outside of trance music almost obsessive compulsive types i suspected this behavior in pengowl originally also then roux appeared both of them would monitor anytime i appeared on the page trance followers often dislike much attachment to house because the house scene has practically overshadowed the whole trance scene currently and due to the fact that house came first this may give a certain editor roux certain agenda's to have cited information silenced or to disqualify a citation i suspected roux was a trance follower from his comments on paul oakenfold and also the clues telling me what year he entered the scene i am guessing or even later trance scene actually started there also are other possible motives for deleting my important entry so once again wikipedia owner this is likely the reason why roux is trying to find some rule or anything he can to prevent that one sentence and those two citations from being included why because they demonstrate that the earliest published trance works are actually from the uk acid house movement thus one can conclude that trance had origins from the english house scene which trance people would hate with a passion right now the world is to believe that it comes from mainland europe only there is zero reference to england which in fact had one of if not the largest trance scenes in the early years information is just information i personally don't have any pure attachment to house or trance i enjoy both but one must speak about the origins to silence the past is in a way misinforming an entire generation of newcomers to the scene few people can speak about the past because those early critical warehouse years were the beginnings of the scene what may sound like a few years to you in reality there is a big difference to someone who appeared in the scene in as opposed to someone who appeared in it is also difficult for anyone to speak of the origins of trance without living through classic chicago house in the 's there is little to no documentation on the early years of trance the documentation that does exist is often written from the perspective of djs or writers who did not live through classic chicago house therefore it is difficult for them to piece together the past to speak of the actual catalog releases of the creators of the music is extremely important in my opinion in fact the records themselves the only medium that the art was released through in the early years are the actual only true un biased reference to the genre wouldn't you agree at the end of the day trance doesn't exist in space it exists in published form contained on a vinyl record i am not sure why the site would want me to avoid speaking about the creators of that art