ok i see your point on the quality of the two images that were taken with a flash i don't have the same opinion on moving trains i'm dropping my support of the th street hunter college pic i don't think the flash use on the rector street image significantly degrades that image there is some slight reflection of the flash on the column and wall tile i don't support your opinion that every image must include people and or trains the system is vast and varied these empty platform pics can be included but shouldn't necessarily be the infobox pic i still like the wall street lex pic i don't think the station name has to be included in the pic in the infobox many stations have pictures of street stairs in their infoboxes if the station name is not in the picture it should definitely be in the file name though caption on the th says the lexington avenue upper level local station opened in a good picture needed for that article but not what is depicted a better caption would be a station mosaic name tablet on the upper level i have re added the rector street and wall street pics to their respective galleries i have re captioned the th street mosaic can you take a better picture of the upper level that is similar to the lower level picture already shown to better illustrate the difference between the two levels talk contribs