i don't want to put a stick into anyone's spokes but i think incremental improvements of this article is a mistake while it is structured to be for against the no massacre thesis that structure is a road block that will stop us ever getting a sensible article re structure first then do the lead then tighten up on the rest of it however i'm very happy with the work done by g dett and eleland and commend their new lead which incidentally would be something like what we decided we needed some weeks ago in one of the sections started by jaakobou ps i've re indented this section into the threaded form i believe it should have this is not an exercise in disruption i've even left the comment contribution in it's original confused state it's because i'm pretty sure it makes it much more sensible and easier to read