dave is just an insulting rude editor look at the top of his homepage vandals trolls and other fiendly visitors please note wikipedia is a community not a crazy den of pigs social experimenters please note we're an encyclopedia not a bunch of lab rats in a cage i personally try to respect anyone and not to prejudice like dave that does not mean that i am always forgiving but even just using the ugly rudeness of himself against him several times did not stop him a famous scientist i currently don t remember which quoted you can t overestimate the dumbness of manhood