you are saying that it's impossible to tell who did a bad thing first and i agree yet you're saying that founding of israel set a bad example for palestinians arabs populating the land of israel sorry palestine then even before they came up with the great idea of calling themselves palestinians weren't exactly innocent i do not think i ever said how it began and who's fault it is i have an opinion and you can guess it but it's irrelevant the question is how it can end since there are two peoples and one isn't going to kill the other the only way is to reach some kind of agreement this agreement cannot be reached while one is determined to destroy the other freeing gaza is a noble goal and it was within reach in destroying israel is wrong and it just won't happen open minded liberals i believe it includes you don't understand that by justifying and backing up the atrocities committed by radical terrorists they causing more suffering to their brainwashed but otherwise innocent subjects hostages you are right this is off topic and most importantly pointless