hi rholton what i'm trying to do here is create a good article that contains all the information on these towns that is presently in stubs all the stubs can then redirect to this article if they weren't just stubs but proper articles then there wouldn't be a point they are not about to become more than stubs though as i created the stub on euroa about a year ago and it's still a stub if some become large articles then i can just have a link to them from this article it can also link from list of victorian towns which names each town by doing this you will now go to a large article instead of one stub getting a better overview of the towns in victoria i'm still working on it and i hope that you will give me a chance to finish before doing anything like a vfd not that that would be necessary anyway as you can redirect victorian towns to list of victorian towns if you don't want it to be kept apr utc