advice thanks for the great advice i took a break and have come back a bit refreshed if not disappointed by the results of the rr violation i just can't see how my first edit removing the npov tag per a formal mediation decision can be considered a revert but apparently the rr rule is far more flexible in its application than i and others think so now what can i about the warning on my talk page can i archive it do i leave it there for all eternity can i ever become an admin with that on my record glad to know editors like you woohoo i apprecaite your solid advice and help