hello sometimes we agree sometimes we don't but it's all good as far as i am concerned i was not referring to you in any of my comments about shenanigans at narm the troublesome editors are often single purpose and appear to be new these editors do a grave disservice because their noise tends to shield an editor like cirt from legitimate criticisms and scrutiny you will notice that i did quite the opposite of what cirt wanted at santorum neologism i am not any way in the habit of backing up cirt it just happens that often he's right though sometimes he's wrong and i dislike the sock campaigns that have been been related to the landmark education and church of scientology articles and turned personal against cirt talk