pete piss off macosal asked a polite question i happen to know a fair bit of the answer so i gave him a polite answer i hope it helps him understand i'm not pretending that i have sources for all of this i'm not asking that it be added to the article i'm sharing knowledge it's something i do reject it if you choose i cannot comprehend why you would but people surprise me every day oh and there's little opinion in my post most of it is pure fact a fact is still a fact whether it's sourced or not