hm you seem intent upon characterizing our motivations and actions in the worst possible light i wasn't trying to wear anyone down i was improving the article as the discussion progressed and wanted to call attention to that fact also a lot of the editors' votes seemed to be based upon the afd which was no longer accurate as of the day after it was written however i did not expect you to revise your call and was mostly doing this in the spirit of trying to settle the issue without deletion review as wp drv suggests you appear to be hostile to our very existence so that as they say is that