to answer and in doing so as well i do not take to gaming wikipedia lightly especially when i find myself involved with those editors doing so who's gaming wikipedia firstly arthur rubin have you looked at the laundry list of violations this admin has racked up deleting other users posts on talk pages tag team reverting blocking edit warring being blocked etc etc etc a short review of the section on my talk brought to me by an ip editor too afraid to use their actual user account informed me of his nefarious record here on wikipedia i refuse to walk into a known hostile article with hostile editors waiting to pounce like subject trolls who set this precedent of a hostile editing environment arthur rubin whose repeated rule busting and counter productive antagonistic dancing around the issues leads only to toxic situations like this i am not a push over further the editors in question and make zero suggestions or concessions oh but the undo button never fails to escape their attention how many times do i have to say this these editors have the same stone wall tactics and bad attitudes responsible for the grid lock in washington d c where only the people wikipeia viewer are is made to suffer this is why people like arthur rubin should not be a wikipedia admin this is why people like arthur rubin should not even so much as be wikipedians as of now i will be writing an email to wikipedia management and demanding his permanent dismissal and subsequent blocking of his most used ip by the way it has not escaped me that you haven't made one mention of the inability of either or violations of common sense or wikipedia assume good faith cornerstones have you read the battle that occurred in the koch family talk page like a good and apparently stupid little wikipedian i'm trying to problem solve and placate these obvious pov editors wants needs desires and demands and i am rewarded by being given nothing in return even though as stated before and i'll state it again they enter negotiations with a round of ridiculous arguments easily explained away then only to return with more for every one i argue down wikipedia is one of the most gamed websites there is the only reason i wont quit is because i know doing so would only go to make users like the ones stated above jovial with relief that their pov pushing may continue un disrupted