observerny i believe that the statement students are issued an ib certificate regardless of whether a student passes or fails the exam are your words i was quoting you this means that you seem to have quoted me as the originator when in fact i was quoting you you say as to the ' ' being considered passing in the article under diploma conditions right above certificates it states ib considers a a passing grade however a student may earn the ib diploma and still have hl failing grade and sl failing grades which article is this just give me the reference or link there are lots of articles linked and i want to know which one you are referring to furthermore continuing above the quote you may be using is possibly from the diploma conditions let me reiterate there is no pass or fail on a certificate as far as i understand from the ib please show me a quote about certificates if you have one not diploma there is a pass and fail on the diploma failing the diploma does not mean you pass or fail certificates