january utc i thought that parts of the bio were moved to the history section and i just didn't want to lose anything with my revert i may have made a mistake anyway this still looks a little misleading and a lot wordy i've cleaned up that language to say effectively the same thing with fewer quotation marks made it quite a bit clearer that both the oyd version and the historians' version are not represented as certainty added a mention of yin yang doe technically the name according to my understanding for the line of moo doe that's claimed for oom yung doe since it's a chinese line up until john c kim's generation and moved the line about starting training at age to the bio since it didn't fit in the lineage section any more with all those edits