and pbs as you are a bit of an expert on wiki policies i know i have read somewhere that neutral words like killing are to be used rather than pov terms like massacre slaughtered etc perhaps you could direct mr downey to the appropriate link one can just imagine mr downey's reaction if i starting inserting murdered to describe the execution of the leaders or referred to the men in the gpo as being slaughtered he has rather a long history of inserting pov language into this particular article and his intransigent attitude made me think perhaps the same unintentional bias and poor choice of words infects the rest of his irish history writing on wiki i am going to examine that shortly