i anticipated that is precisely what you would do i see there is no need to respond there as you have been properly counseled by the first responder take this under advisement there are editors on wikipedia it s amazing the system runs as smoothly as it does you need to do a self appraisal as to why you behave as you do you strike me as the type who has to win at all cost if that is indeed your underlying need it would help if you didn t a go out of your way to provoke confrontation you might have elected to not post your very first unhelpful post and b not be so wrong about things in the first place read tony s just take that under advisement so you don t feel like you ve been somehow disgraced and have some honor to defend or other such horsecrap you are perfectly free to delete this thread if you don t then i will in hours please drop this now i spent several hours making that animation and all i have as my reward is stepping ankle deep in my dealings with you wikipedia is supposed to be a rewarding hobby so far that attribute has been elusive the last hours or so here for me happy editing '''''' talk