zeq it is completely obvious that this is not a crusader ruin i believe doron on this for five reasons doron's evidence is persuasive and you provided none at all crusader ruins don't look anything like that arab village ruins look like that i have several other pictures of the ruins of suba and they look just like this one is here one is in a book the crusader fortress of belmont was at the same site as the arab village and remnants can be seen but the arab village was built around them and that's what most of the visible ruins are or do you want us to believe there was no arab village there at all your comments make it hard to take you seriously first you make a claim something about ibrahim but your link says only ibrahim pasha's army attacks jewish settlers of hebron palestine second you don't seem to realise that zobah in the bible is the name of a aramean kingdom or its capital not a village near jerusalem it was supposed to be in the north somewhere talk