timing hi nw i just wondered aloud at the feedback page whether you and lar have misunderstood the role of arbs i know you don't misunderstand it actually and i think our different slant on this revolves around our take on the relevance to the decision making of voters of wider topics in candidate responses on a more immediate practical matter you said this is a poor time of year for a lot of people first you have thanksgiving weekend in the united states and then you have a massive uptake in work around december can you assist by suggesting when is good and when is bad is nov dec out i can't imagine anything but towards the end of the year would work and changing the dates of tenure of arbs would be a major shift talk