recent rename to relationships between american jewish religious movements i don't understand why this article renamed all of the major movements involved orthodox conservative and reform have both international histories and a contemporary international presence the current article content does unduly reflect an american point of view but this can be fixed best i did this because after reading the page over several times it only had us denominational connection true we might all be aware that each of the denominations has an international counterpart but that isn't reflected on this page by its creator or subsequent numerous editors of course if this was not the proper thing to do it can be changed back but the whole page would need to be heavily added to it is a shame this couldn't be purged entirely and a new section added to the denomination page best wishes agreeing with shirahadasha i don't think it makes sense to limit this article to american movements better to fix the content because the geographic limit is quite artificial for instance what about israeli orthodox commenting on american movements or vice versa we certainly don't want to have this relationships topic segmented for uk and germany and hungary because movements and individuals constantly interact and comment across geographic boundaries we need to revisit the title talk before we worry about the world wide perspective which i agree would be interesting perhaps we should focus first on getting a well sourced wp npov article on the usa there is a huge amount of material on the us alone to sort through several problems many sources and notable figures do not limit their remarks to a geographic denomination hence when r feinstein or joel roth comment on other movements they don't refer only to jews and organizations within the us accordingly the current article's content is not limited to the us the discourse of the movements cannot be segregated geographically enough to justify segregated articles for these reasons i will would like to move it back and open the discussion here thanks talk there is plenty of material available e g historical socialogical literary that is indeed region specific this article hasn't even begun to scratch the surface of that material why is it relevant that joel roth says things that are worldwide if claim a applies to us and claim a applies to israel then a is appropriate in any of the following three articles a an article on the us b an article on israel and c an article on the us and israel the material on other areas e g israel is volumous israel deserves its own article if we write a good article on the us and then start writing one on israel and while writing the one on israel notice that we need to reuse material then we can always add a third article with the shared material even if we need shared material e g for israel and the us it does not change the fact that both countries have denominational relationships that are complex enough and sufficiently sourced to each need their own article finally its better to do a little well then try to do too much and do it poorly outdent the following aspects of the article are not limited to internal usa relationships haredi views of modern orthodox generally r feinstein on non orthodox jews haredia on heretical intent and the s widespread denigration of religion modern ortho on non orthodox generally r soloveitchik not discussing american non ortho alone r lamm saying non orthodox rabbis and laypeople may possess spiritual dignity etc r berger the jewish loyalties and observances of non orthodox jews are decidedly better than nothing etc conservative views of orthodox are not limited to american orthodox and general view is held by masorti conservative too r schorsch claimed that orthodox organizations in israel politically discriminate against non orthodox jews obviously not us the reform section is not only usa mostly historical given this content i would like to undo the recent move and switch the burden of proof for changing the name of this long standing article this can be done either as a brd move or as a requested move thanks u