i wonder why you think it's absurd to a try and raise funds for those harmed by a natural disaster and b to prove once and for all that these repetitive almost chanting claims i am ennis are false if the 'number is ennis' dichotomy was removed the talk pages would be near empty i wonder why you condemn my attempts to bring honesty to these pages but that's rhetorical as i said there must be certain camaraderie among wiki people and i doubt if you d want to jeopardise that even if your quest was integrity now you have asked me a sensible question so i'll answer for some time i watched these pages and saw that posts from people in the uk claiming they were in the uk were summarily dismissed worse posters were automatically accused of being ennis one reason given was that the posts were anonymous so i thought as i know more about ennis than others from the uk posting here imo i'd try to add to these pages however even with an identity i got exactly the same treatment in fact cardinal chunder also got the same treatment even though he has an anti sollog website and is well known in google groups for arguing with sollog ites so it became clear that it would be impossible to add anything constructive unless either the accusations 'you're a sock puppet you re ennis ' were either suppressed or disproved i therefore asked what the criteria would be to 'prove' i was not ennis and presumably this criteria would apply to others i tried to prove i was not in america i thought these days all ips were traceable but perhaps the 'proxy argument' holds sway though quite how 'proxies work' is beyond me i quoted extracts from a newspaper that was not on the net this was dismissed someone else even went to a pub in lyndhurst and posted what was next to where he was sitting that too was dismissed so it became obvious that no proof i or anyone else was not ennis would ever be accepted therefore the only other option if i felt i had something to contribute would be to suppress the hyena like accusations never backed up btw in vain did i quote wiki official policy plainly it is not obeyed by editors administrators vis a vis the treatment of contributors so what is left i cannot invoke wiki policy i cannot 'prove' i am here in england sitting quietly in front of a pc two choices stop posting completely try and 'challenge' the main accuser so once and for all this behaviour would stop the only challenge worth it would be one where i did not personally gain of course i would win because i am not ennis and where proof involving a third party held in esteem e g ashley acted as 'witness' hence the challenge i fear that will be deleted i'll be castigated a usual and that's that it really is just hopeless i have started deleting all my posts and if the challenge is reverted i ll know there simply is no hope and i'll delete all my posts if i can find them you see unless people accept i am not ennis everything i or anyone else writes who is similarly accused will simply be dismissed i'd prefer it if people read the post without looking at the poster but they don't i have other interests i posted on the yoga page but it's quiet and i am interested in politics etc etc so we'll see what happens like i said my view is that it's just hopeless trying to treat others as adults as all some want to do is and they admit this bait bait and bait and if you do rise to it you're banned and if you don't it shows your inability truly a page that brings out the juvenile in what i assume are adults so there you are i have answered your question fully and honestly and we'll just see what happens it will answer the question at least for these sollog pages as to whether wiki should be taken seriously or not finally if as expected the post is reverted it will provide a fitting end to the article i am writing i am a freelance writer and no i m not going to prove it before i send it off to newspapers if it is accepted though i shall return just the once to link to the article jan utc