i saw that when you put it up i note with interest that nobody else has acted on it whether this is because nobody else has seen it they can't be arsed or some genuine reason i can only speculate there are a lot of sources giving the later time bbc various newspapers both sides of the atlantic and that's the first i've heard of the other time is anybody else quoting that time what time has gen cone or other army spokesmen given i'll take a look myself but anything you can come up with would be appreciated you rang