you win after giving it some thought i have decided to back off considering that i don't really have much of a chance of convincing you that things are way off i will stay away from pages where i stand a chance of running into you and your friends i informed mr weyrich of the problems with his biography so i will leave it to him to deal with wp office if he so desires when it comes to politics and the social sciences wikipedia has a decided postmodern liberal socialist slant and i can't win so i will leave it alone