clearly you were not involved in the creation of usenet newsgroups in the uk hierarchy in the mid s as i was i remember the original proposal for uk local northwest being a newsgroup intended to cover northwest england there was an immediate and vociferous reaction from our caledonian brethren who pointed out accurately that northwest england is just about in the middle of the island and by no stretch of the imagination is the northwest of the uk we eventually ended up creating uk local nw england wales is indeed very much in the southwestern quadrant of the island of great britain and i would urge you not to be mislead by the maps on the bbc tv weather forecasts which because of perspective make scotland look considerably smaller than it is talk