true it is in a gray area but the subject could not control the source and there is nothing to gain from a sanctioning body giving an award to someone unworthy i think we can be certain he earned the titles the frustrating thing has been finding truly independent sources my hope is that someone somehow can come up with better sourcing for this i guess gray sources are better than none then there is the afd debate does the fact the sport lacks main stream media coverage mean the sport and its champion's are not encyclopedic again a gray area but sometimes if one is to risk erring it's better to err on the side of the article if one cannot find certainty in the past i've seen a discussion go to keep based on similar to me at the time trivial coverage and miserable to me sources currently i've been gnashing my teeth and wringing my hands over spending ours to come up with one or two measly sources of other articles '''cheers dlohcierekim'''