oh really you advise me not to tell people in the outside world about what i've observed about how this website works you're telling me i can't tell people in the real world what i saw user dot do at wikipedia fair enough obviously i'm not going to take a blind bit of notice of such idiotic advice like that and yes if you want to stop me from editting here for ignoring that 'advice' go ahead i can always use more examples of this place's dysfunctionality but thanks for giving me more of an insight into the way you people think i'm starting to realise this is less the encyclopedia anyone can edit instead it's more like some cult where queries about process are absolutely positively not tolerated