in the end threats including threats of blocks are not discussion if one says well the rules aren't so clear let's talk about this and gets back you're violating the rules i'll block you then the system isn't working if one replies to the previous let's take it to talk let's discuss and gets in return there's nothing to discuss well i've read wp's policy documents and you may disagree with me but i think they could use some revision and clarification that's where this dispute began and how we got here one should not be blocked for expressing a contrary opinion in discussion on one's own talk page and informing an editor or administrator that one finds their actions abusive one should not be blocked for expressing a contrary opinion in discussion on one's own talk page by the person one is debating