by we i mean all of us involved in trying to improve this article and again it is nice to say i think this section is wrong so i'm going to fix it that's great but i can't say if i personally think the changes that are going to be made are good or bad unless those specific changes are proposed so far i haven't seen much in the way of specific proposed changes so i'm not sure how any editor can make a statement one way or the other about them can you write your changes down as dot points is that a viable way forward