hahaha check this out mickmacnee an editor with a long history of block for disruptive behaviour seems to have gone out of line in the last days i don't mind him being defensive of an article he has written the major part about and several users in the afd discussion have been very much engaged in it including myself however i object to the repated personal attacks and uncivil behaviour by the editor his history is rather long so i provide just a few selected diffs of uncivil comment and direct personal attacks during the last days in the discussion on this page about a third user he calls my arguments for not agreeing with him evasion obfuscation interuption and intentional deafness that is rather typical of his attitude in the afd discussion where he agressively drives that everybody disagreeing with him are wrong i've tried to point it out to him but with hindsight given our infected history it might have been better not to as i should have predicted how he would respond however i'm far from alone in having that opinion in the last days several other editors have also commented on his behaviour jeppiz talk that block log looks like something out of a wiki horror story why has he not been given long blocks in the past i would go for a longer term block ks stm t c g a users block log is not generally an excuse to throw the book at him this looks a bit silly if you ask me a bit of a tit for tat heated discussion over a article for deletion discussion that is split down the middle and nothing will come of it i can't find a really uncivil comment perhaps if you guys just edit different articles for a few days off riorob talk it goes without saying that everybody has different opinions but i do think that one of the nastiest and most repugnant editors either your comment was simply ignorant of the facts like you characterisation of my pov or you are simply trolling either way you are all out of credit here tbh i've got no idea what crappy papers you read it's up to you if you want to parrot everybody's delete opinion as if it makes you look like you know what you are on about but it really doesn't are not particularly civil neither is i have had it with your crap in any case i won't interact with the user again i rather leave wikipedia as i pointed out i'm far from alone in having made these observations jeppiz talk off riorob i tried your suggestion in fact i didn't think i'd need to try i didn't think i'd cross paths with mick after this bout of abuse but sure enough i did and when i reported him for violation of a r measure in place on the northern ireland article half of his defence was an assumption of bad faith against me i guess if someone keeps an eye on him he can't get too far out of hand alastairward talk it is a bit of a rant he is clearly very upset about the footie and i am sorry you have been upset jeppiz he has gone now probably off to bed i'm sure one of the admins will have a strong word in his ear when he shows his face again i myself have had a run in with him but he has grown on me what can i say off riorob talk seeing the diffs alastairward provided i cannot agree even though i see that you stood up for him that time as well this is a user who seems unable to deal with conflicting views and routinely resorts to personal abuse jeppiz talk nothing routine about it your behaviour and alistair's are pretty similar which is why they provoked similar responses eventually if either of you wish me to lay out the full package of evidence for either of your extraordinarily sustained campaigns of tendentious behaviours i am only too willing to oblige mickmacnee talk first of all alistair and i are not the only editors you've attacked and insulted there are at least grsz and kevin mce just in the last few days while i have definitely argued with you i have not called you one of the most repugnant editors called your contributions crap called you a lying hypocritical cunt or told you to fuck off every time someone brings your behaviour to the attention of administrators you come up with these vague and unsupported accusations that ones you've argued with have behaved in the same way it is not a defense then both should be blocked and it's not true either just a dishonest way for you to try to talk you out of it i'm getting tired of having that same accusation thrown at me all the time and i take it as