sorryh you're right i did misread ncc granted they also ignore other guidelines but that's still one project versus how many i already gave you a direct quote from the anime and manga project mos yet you said you still couldn't find it that was also done after lengthy discussions during our last and far more recent mos upgrade and sorry but as i'm actually and active member in tv film and anime and mos i don't need to do research because i already know however let's actually look category lists of television characters and category lists of anime and manga characters and which one do you see as the naming convention used for the bulk of all lists let me make it easy television main cat has lists of which use your preferred schema and most of those are serious afd bait follow neither convention with being the characters in of variety of non lists anime manga lists only of which do not use list of x characters and of those only use your preferred version uses characters of and the rest need renaming merging deleting then there is the less populated category lists of film characters with only lists of those again do not use list of x characters or are not actual lists of those use the characters of in uses x characters and use your preferred list of characters in of x so vast majority of all of those use list of x characters and most of those that don't aren't lists that their respective projects would even approve of their existance and if kept as is would be renamed so where is your research to actually show that yours is preferred except by a single project which also rejects other guidelines where is the overall naming guideline that truly supports your claim without special interpretation and where is your discussions giving consensus to begin renaming any such lists you feel doesn't meet this personal interpretation without any discussion talk contribs