please join me in two things first join the discussion on my talk page if ethnicity clashes with mos saying we should not emphasize ethnicity in the opening like all persian scholars on wikipedia presently do i'm right now just trying to get a vote for people to change the userboxes so even if it says persian in the opening it doesn't say it in the huge userbox next to it like in avicenna pan ethnic wars are a pain second see template islamic culture someone is claiming bengali language should not be under here enzuru