fyi and i really don't think i should need to have to point this out my goal in this case was simply to help provide genuinely reliable information on wikipedia in a clinically relevant topic that's to say in the knowledge that patients really do come to wikipedia as a source of information and that the information they find may influence their decisions however i'm human and my patience has its limits right now it's seething i should say that in other circumstances i would be happy to hear your advice on how to use those templates but here i'm afraid it all rings hollow whenever did i mention a block fwiw i might well have supported a limited topic ban if i'd prioritize ani over tidying a new article wikipedia talk med new article dutch hypothesis anyway i did my best and that's that and i've got bitten for my pains but i sometimes feel that's pretty much par for the course when trying to help out on anything controversial however relevant its implications on wikipedia a real trap imo