well i left for two days anyway and i see no reason to dredge up a closed thread i will say that the whole point of the thread as calton indicated was to not have to get involved in it myself and there was also really no need for an ip which displayed disruptive behavior in the past to get involved ips are nice to hide behind and i will bet money on the fact that it's been the same person all along which is where my remarks came from i'm happy to admit a mistake when i make one but this was not a mistake i will stand behind everything i said based on the following line of reasoning a static ip is often tied to the same computer in an office mhec the ip location is not a school it's a governing authority for the state schools in massachusetts so it has an office and an edu address but not a campus of million people using a computer in the library the chances of two different people on the same ip meaning at the same computer knowing enough of wiki internals to go poking around ani try to run for arbcom request a block for an admin and then have troll unblock requests hello is not a spurious unblock request really is just too small for my liking i'm sorry if i'm not going to agf that but i cannot suspend my disbelief that far and i got hammered for it i neither expect nor require an apology but i do want it to be known that something important was missed in that thread and that ip's going to be a problem until someone takes care of it