uh yeah you're right the indef block seems a little harsh if you ask me i was just doin' some reference desk action and making what i believed to be a constructive recommendation to the an i douches admins have evolved into ruler wielding hardasses to a greater degree than when i was active a few years ago i guess i'll have to use another accont or go back to editing from my iphone if i want to keep using the reference desk ho hum