that's right wikipedia is a collaborative sic environment and one of the collaborators is named gamaliel maybe you've heard of this person who disputes wildhartlivie's claim that harold kade is irrelevant to the kupcinet article gamaliel has said he is relevant as long as the claims about him are sourced they are if you've read the article you would know dr kade performed the autopsy on kupcinet you don't have to be passionately invested in the subject to know that just read it