what is the source for the crew list i add a to the article within the section entitled 'final voyage ' i compared the crew listing against newspaper reports published both in sa i e 'the loss of the loch vennachar ' the register adelaide sa saturday november page retrieved wa in that use the same british source to discover the following there are names in the list while there are in the newspapers the additional name is charles muir and while the body of the article states 'she was carrying a crew of some reports say and laden with general cargo and a consignment of bricks ' the list of names has a lot more detail about the crew i e full names ages and place of abode rather than town or county does anyone know what source was consulted to prepare the list