i merely meant in my pre amble to what i was saying that i believed that assumptions contrary to that indicated in the reference should not be made where there was not clear indication that the person had adopted the nationality of the place of their death for example if they died in new york having lived there for years but were actually born in london england surely the only assumption in the absence of a mention in the source being used is that this person would still be english or british if you prefer there is little point in conducting pain staking research just for a tagline in a list but let's try to be correct in what we put in that tagline is all i'm saying we can't mislead surely i didn't exepct this to go so in depth a mere yes i agree or no you're wrong or even don't know would suffice thanks for the input anyway i'm none the wiser to be frank chew do