i removed my little rant i didn't mean to insinuate that you were trying to tilt it however i'll admit it did come across that way that's exactly how i would have read it i apologize for that i just don't think that young trigg's edits warranted slapping down the coi rules that comes across as accusatory and bitey an assumption of good faith would be thanks for the great additions i noticed your user name is similar to one of palin's children are you a member of her family if the answer is yes then comes the coi notice am i making sense elliskev