yes let's berate the new editor with no experience and no idea by then relegating their arguments to a version of wp own nice to have a comment that violates own and civil in one fell swoop while also stating they're on a path to nowhere hence showing every reference to consensus was a sham because despite your claims of arguing with me being pointless you have admitted to have no interest at all to bringing the article in lines with wikipedia standards because hey it's your article '''''' talk