from may to june peer review i've archived all the previous discussion in preperation for extensive work on this article hopefully the peer review can help use on our way to fa status i'll add my comments about what needs to be done shortly talk new layout i think we need a better layout and this is what i propose based on other religous pages etymology originating from sanskrit i ya or ik or pali sikkh beliefs one god reference to what god is in sikh thought reference the mul mantra as underlying the characteristics of god thoughts on birth death reincarnation karma relation to dharmic faiths and crucially how sikhism differs equality of people regardless of race religion caste etc history general climate in india at the time the sikh gurus placing special emphasis on nanak as the founder and gobind singh as the founder of the khalsa the guru granth sahib influences in sikhism post gurus famous sikhs like banda bahadur and ranjit singh including influence of the british and issue in independent india scripture guru granth sahib creation of layout and content dasam granth and controversy janam sakhis other scripture khalsa sikhs five ks punjab and punjabi culture and how it relates to sikhism sikhism in the diaspora new sikh converts institutions places of worship gurdwaras harimandir sahib akal takht spirtual and temporal duties of both sgpc and other gurdwara administration committees sects and groups talk about differing groups of sikhs including caste distinctions which still persist contrary to sikh teachings udasis nirankaris and others in addition we need to get rid of the mass of links at the bottom of the page as well as the audio files which are not relevant on this page talk pictures and table i don't see the need in having pictures of men wearing turbans i think one of them should be replaced by a picture of one of the k's or maybe even a picture of a guru also i think the order of the columns in the table containing information about the gurus needs to be changed i think all dates should be read in chronological order which means that the date of birth column should come before the guruship on column this to me is a more logical order yes i agree with your comments we'll incorporate your commments in the re write the dates of the gurus also need fact checking and have been flagged for some while talk okay all done please check the new picture talk that is a much better picture thank you there is something i am unsure about though and i hope someone can resolve the matter in that table about the gurus it says that guru nanak received his guruship the day he was born is this a widely accepted belief amongst the sikh community i ask because i had always thought that guru nanak became a guru the day he emerged from the river bain and said there is neither hindu nor muslim and recited the mool mantra for the first time i am not entirely sure though am i mistaken to believe this it could also be viewed that as there was nobody well apart from god i suppose to pass their guruship onto him he was a guru since birth i believe your way of looking at it is definately better and i will change it by the way feel free to edit any of the articles on wikipedia there are plenty of problems on the sikhism related pages and none were really written by scholars talk styles i'm a bit unsure how to proceed with general styling in the article punjabi written in gurmukhi does not have a complex set of consonant clusters so sometimes the inherent 'a' is dropped without it being indicated in writing should we transcribe with or without the 'a' also when should we transliterate formally or