gothic metal and death rock nice call on the removing of metal traces in the death rock article im having similar problems with the gothic metal article on people with little to no knowledge of the subjects editing the article and trying to draw an association between goth music and gothic metal when there isnt one perhaps the death rock and gothic rock articles could do with a bit of an overhaul ive seen that youve edited the death rock article quite a bit so i assume you know a lot about the subject i suggest if your willing to listen that you read the gothic metal article firstly so you better understand what it is and secondly so you can work better with it and its contents on drawing the big black line or pink if you prefer that divides the two by a long way i call out to you as a fellow editor of articles simply because i do not know enough about goth rock or death rock to compently edit them mainly due to my work and association in the metal scene this im sure we can build some form of a bridge even if that bridge is to eleborate on the seperation of the two cultures