welly not to disagree or agree, i thought wena you had the holy book as your guideline hence izinto zokucaba are not mentioned in the bible (correct me if am wrong) hence just asking, ukwazela kuphi konke lokhu i.e. ukucaba, etc? are you still practicing that on yourself and your modern christianed kids (if you have)? Take to heart the words of Jude : “ Beloved ones , by building up yourselves on your most holy faith , and praying with holy spirit , keep yourselves in God’s love . ” ​ — Jude 20 , 21 . People who decided to go against making kids want to tell us how we should raise our sons and daughters. Continue doing your thing without telling us to teach our kids your values, you are against reproducing after all Esaya 53:4 Cacine aliimya ulubembu lwesu namasakaminwa nonse elo ifwe twalisamucusha, nokumwiipaya. 5 Pamulandu wamiembu yesu, alifunnwa; umulandu wamapulu yesu, anitanikwa, elo mutende walipaliena kumembya yamumine, pakuti tuposhwe.