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« Reply #80 on: July 03, 2012, 08:17:28 am »
Quote from: JVR on July 03, 2012, 07:28:29 am
Versigtig wat jy hier praat, onthou in die fast lane hugger saga was ek ook reg. Die hof het beslis dat Taylor nie die wet oortree het nie. Maar julle wil nou soos die ANC kies wanneer die hof reg is, aldan nie?
« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2012, 08:17:57 am »
mag bikers in die EL ry of nie?
niemand voorsien in eenrigting verkeer vloei om eers te kyk vir verkeer in EL lyn as jy moet pad soek waneer jy nood remme moet gebruik nie.
dis hoekom mens NIE in die EL baan ry nie, veral bikers.
« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2012, 08:18:30 am »
Quote from: Dwerg on July 03, 2012, 08:15:40 am
« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2012, 08:20:05 am »
Quote from: michnus on July 03, 2012, 08:17:57 am
Probleem is dat NIEMAND eers kyk in enige baan voor hulle rigting verandr nie. Mos lekker in SA.
« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2012, 08:20:16 am »
What about the bike lane splitting, and a car swerves to miss a bike in the emergency lane......is it then still ok for bike to be in the EL.
« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2012, 08:20:25 am »
Kom commute bietjie vir 'n week lank tussen JHB en PTA dan praat ons weer
« Reply #86 on: July 03, 2012, 08:22:58 am »
My neute vriend
Dit is waarom ek as goeie verantwoordelike bestuurder ter alle tye my volgafstand en spoed aanpas. Hulle noem dit defensive driving
« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2012, 08:28:04 am »
Quote from: Dwerg on July 03, 2012, 08:20:25 am
ook waar wat jy se Dwerg
Dit is hoekom ek onder geen omstandighede met my ouderdom en reaksie tye met n bike sal probeer commute nie. Het dit in my jonger dae gedoen maar moet se was nooit n lane splitter en sulke goed nie en ek is na 35 jare biking nog hier. Nie oor ek goeie ryer was nie maar ek het my limitation's geken en altyd gery asof elke kar my wou vrekmaak. Die dop het dinge so n bietjie in grys area by tye laat verval egter
« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2012, 08:30:51 am »
Subie, dit is waaroor dit gaan, pas net jou volgafstande aan, en jy hoef nie in noodbane in te ry nie, of rook uit jou bande sien kom nie.
Lees mooi; "die biker het die wet verbreek, maar die vrou het hom doodgery. Of het hy net vanself geval? Hy was wel onwettig in die noodbaan, maar dit is n afsonderlike saak waarvoor die staat alleen hom kan aankla.
Ek wag tot een van julle weer kom huil oor n motor wat n U-draai voor jou/ jou broer/ vriend/suster gemaak het, want dit is wat hier gebeur het, die vrou het haarself nie genoeg afstand gegun om binne te stop nie, moes uitswaai, en n motorfietsryer is dood.
« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2012, 08:32:27 am »
Ek moet gou gaan geldmaak, sal julle verder verkeerd bewys vanaand. Lekker dag almal.
« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2012, 08:33:44 am »
Quote from: 2StrokeDan on July 03, 2012, 08:30:51 am
So besig soos die highway in druk verkeer is en soos wat die mense in gapings in druk sal jy actually in reverse moet ry om die volgafstand te hou
« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2012, 08:41:19 am »
My experience is that if you leave a safe distance (according to the speed travelling) everybody will fill that gap for you.
We have to start with our OWN lookout on life - rules are made to give us freedom within boundries - and most roadusers do not adhere to the rules, whether on foot, a bicycle, motorbike, cage or truck.
The result is CARNAGE on our roads!
« Reply #92 on: July 03, 2012, 08:49:23 am »
Quote from: Dwerg on July 03, 2012, 08:33:44 am
Ja ek moet se defensive driving in die druk verkeer hierso is ook maar n grys area. Ek voel baie tye met my kar nie gemaklik met my volgafstande as newbie hier in joburg nie. Gelukkig hoef ek glad nie sommer peak hours te ry nie. Mens kan maar net probeer om so defensive as moontlik te ry en seker maak jou aandag is absoluut by wat op die pad aangaan.
Ek het Desember maand Durban toe gery in druk vinnig vloeiende verkeer (140km/h) waar ek nie kon n veilige afstand handhaaf nie. My vrou trek my aandag om iets langs pad te wys en in daardie oomblik rem die ouens kwaai voor my. Ek onthou spesifiek my aandag was nie vasgenael op die kar voor my nie. Terwyl ek besig was met candice braking was my aandag meer gevestig wat in my tru en kant spieeltjie aangaan indien ek sou moes "bail" en nie sou kon stop betyds nie. Gelukkig was die ou agter my ook op die ball.
Dit is instinktief en is ek nie seker dit kan aangeleer word nie. My vrou weet om my nie te pla terwyl ek ry nie. Ek is een van daardie mense wat nie eers n radio sal aansit in verkeer nie. Dink dit is meer bang vir seerkry en skade as iets anders
« Reply #93 on: July 03, 2012, 08:50:15 am »
Quote from: 2StrokeDan on July 03, 2012, 08:20:05 am
Danie, jou argument is baie dun.
Die vrou se reaksie was 100% korrek: Sy het uitgeswaai in die EL in, NIE links in n ander baan in nie. Sy het uit die pad uitgeswaai, nie in die pad in nie. Die EL is veronderstel om skoon te wees. As daar n Emergency Vehicle aan die kom was, het hy sy ligte en sirene aangehad.
Die vrou se optrede was 100% korrek.
Die biker moes nie daar gewees het nie.
« Reply #94 on: July 03, 2012, 08:51:41 am »
Quote from: 2StrokeDan on July 03, 2012, 08:32:27 am
Ek is in die gelukkige posisie van geen finansies daarom geen finansiele probleme nie
« Reply #95 on: July 03, 2012, 08:53:00 am »
I know this is a biking forum and we love to gang up on car drivers that cause accidents, especially fatal ones, but in this case at least 50% of the blame must be carried by the biker who was riding where he shouldnt have, where no reasonable person would expect him to be.
Trying to crucify the women now is just hypocrisy IMO.
The only vehicles that SHOULD be in the emergency lane are emergency vehicles who all have sirens to warn us that are doing unexpected stuff and approaching from unexpeceted directions.
Even if the woman was at fault for not paying attention or whatever, its quite legitimate for her to take avoiding action by swerving into the emergency lane, because thats what its there for! The biker got killed because he was where he shouldn't have been, you cant get away from that fact, and you cant blame the woman for that.
Its just a tragic set of events.
« Reply #96 on: July 03, 2012, 09:02:36 am »
« Reply #97 on: July 03, 2012, 09:15:50 am »
« Reply #98 on: July 03, 2012, 09:35:54 am »
Sparro I stopped using a bike in 1983 after a stoopid bike accident where people also passed on . Two years ago I decided that I am mature enough now to try again . That is one of the reasons (and I know people gonna give me 10 diffrent ones) why I did not go for a twin turbo , quad cam bike !! I can with a bit of effort get to 140km an hour but my bike is very happy between 100 and 120km , I have found that this works for me as I tend to rather stick with traffic than outrun them . But I still find myself doing stooopid thing from time to time , especially speeding and then I start singing to myself "slow down you move to fast , gotta let the moment last la-di-da" . That works for me , an not so sure bout the driving courses but if you do one let me know cause I am a very bad singer .
We all throw the dice every day and it does not always land on a 6 .
« Reply #99 on: July 03, 2012, 09:36:14 am »
I will change my riding habits, I will start wearing a neckbrace and I will certainly do a few advanced riding courses, me and and my wife. 21 yrs of riding experience means bugger all if one is perpetuating bad habits.
I will do the same - best wishes for you and all others commuting everyday in hectic traffic! We have to ride and drive safer to able us to survive the traffic