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After Globalization comes Hebrewization
05-05-2012, 02:15 AM #1
‘Geen ruimte vir gesprek in kerk’
Hy is ’n NG predikant, hy hou die Sabbat op Saterdae, hy eet volgens Ou Testamentiese voorskrifte en hy vier die Joodse feesdae.
Maar dr. Jan de Beer voel hy kry nie kans om ’n behoorlike gesprek oor sy sienings binne die NG Kerk te voer nie.
De Beer was tot verlede jaar nog predikant van die NG gemeente Waterkloofrif. Daar het hy met ’n groep mense, meestal nie lidmate nie, ’n gespreksgroep begin oor die Joodse aspekte van die Bybel wat in die Christelike tradisie verlore gegaan het.
Hy sê dit het eintlik begin toe hy vroeër in Namibië predikant was en met San-mense te doen gekry het. Hy het gevoel hul lewenstyl is baie nader aan die Bybelse voorskrifte as Westerse kerkmense s’n.
Hy het self die Sabbat begin hou (van Vrydagaand tot Saterdagaand) en toe eers begin voel daar is vrug op sy bediening.
Ander aspekte van die Menorah-bediening (genoem na die kandelaar met sewe kerse) sluit in dat hulle die Huttefees vier, dat die hele Bybel uit die Hebreeuse denkwêreld benader word en dat hulle die eetvoorskrifte van Levitikus 11 volg.
Dit gaan nie vir hom oor ’n wettiese nakoming van reëls nie, maar oor ’n lewenstyl wat God wil hê mense moet volg.
De Beer sê hy het in ’n sta*dium teenkanting uit die gemeente begin ervaar. Hy het toe gelei gevoel om sy voltydse leraarspos te laat vaar. Die gemeente het dit in drie gedeel en hy het een derde beklee om met die Menorah-bediening voort te gaan.
Later het hy ook daaruit bedank en die Menorah-groep het besluit om die hele bediening los te maak van die gemeente.
Hy is nou glad nie meer ’n gemeentepredikant nie, maar is steeds predikant van die NG Kerk en hy deel sy insigte oor die land heen waar mense hom nooi.
Min of meer die tyd toe hy bedank het, het die ring van Pretoria-Oos aanbeveel dat die gemeente die Menorah-bediening staak omdat dit in sekere opsigte in stryd is met die kerk se gereformeerde tradisie.
Daarteen wou De Beer appelleer, maar toe moes hy hoor dit was nie ’n formele besluit nie.
Volgens De Beer is al wat hy eintlik wil hê ’n goeie gesprek oor die vertolking van die Bybel.
Dr. André van Niekerk, voorsitter van die ring, sê hulle het al hoeveel keer met De Beer en ouderlinge van die gemeente gepraat.
Wat De Beer eintlik wil hê, is dat die kerk nuwe standpunte oor verskeie sake inneem. Daarmee kan die ring hom nie help nie. Om dit te doen moet hy ’n gravamen na die algemene sinode stuur.
05-05-2012, 03:30 AM #2
Re: After Globalization comes Hebrewization
Jahweh se wette kom ook met 'n gepaste straf vir nie-nakoming.
Wanneer iemand op 'n Sabbat werk moet hy gestenig word. Dit is die uitdruklike Bybelse opdrag.
Ek sal Jan de Beer begin ernstig opneem as hy sy geloof ten volle uitoefen en 'n paar Sabbats-ontheiligers met klippe dood gooi.
Dit behoort sports te wees.
Exo 31 Vers 14: Onderhou dan die sabbat, want dit moet vir julle heilig wees. Hy wat dit ontheilig moet sekerlik gedood word; want elkeen wat daarop werk verrig, die siel moet uitgeroei word onder sy volksgenote uit.
05-05-2012, 06:25 AM #3
Goeie afleiding DOM.
Laat my dink aan die groot getalle Afrikaans sprekendes wat Judaisme aanvaar binne die sogenaamde "Messiannic" tradisie... synde Jode wat aan Jesus so godelikheid glo... vreemd vreemd vreemd...
Hulle noem hulle self "Jews for Jesus"
'n Vorm van infiltrasie van joodse gellofs oortuiginge na midde stroom toe?
Hy is welkom om op 'n Sondag middag na my gym toe te kom en 'n paar swart belts met klippe te gooi... en dan moet hy maar die gevolge dra...
05-05-2012, 12:13 PM #4
Hulle besef nie dat hulle maar net die gedrag volg van laboratoriumrotte, wat aan stres blootgestel word nie.
05-05-2012, 01:51 PM #5
Geloof gegrond in irrassionele vrees vir 'n onsigbare wese wat volgens oorlewering gevaarlik en jaloers is, klink vir my te veel na bygelowigheid.
Heilige boeke en Sabatte is uit 'n primitiewe era en kan vergelyk word met die verering van heilige boomstamme en heilige mane.
Dink net hoeveel bome gespaar kon gebly het as die bygelowige beheptheid met 'n bundel Midde-Oosterse verhale nie soveel vrees by onskuldige mense en kinders afgedwing het nie.
Dit is dalk tyd om terug te ploeg. Bybel verspreiding vir die grootste komposhoop op Aarde kan dalk oor 'n paar dekades nie te vergesog klink nie.
05-05-2012, 02:47 PM #6
Pavlowies van aard?
05-05-2012, 02:49 PM #7
Ja, vrees Jahweh en jou kwyl word beloon, of dalk nie.
05-24-2012, 04:24 PM #8
Na 10 jaar lees ek nog al te lekker aan Die Ou Oom se poste, maar ek weet nogsteeds nie wat hy glo nie?
05-26-2012, 04:37 PM #9
As I write this piece, many things are happening around us, some visible and some aren't.
A bit of a blast from the past took place recently when Vladimir Putin refused to attend the G-8 summit at Camp David and instead sent his buddy and right hand man, Dmitry Medvedev, to oversee Russia's role. It was kind of reminder of the cold-war era, yes, 'Russia is strong and getting stronger and you better notice it' kind of a message was passed on. Did it have its effect? Maybe. Barrack Obama replied with the announcement of his absence from the APEC meeting to be held at Vladivostok. So?
That point will be printed in bold letters and will be the writing on the wall, so to speak for all concerned to read and comprehend. Oh, believe me, this is not at all a wishful thought of an under-fed, undernourished, eternally under a master's whip resident of a deprived third world country. It is a reality bound by the forces of nature to happen. Nature does have some laws to balance certain perspectives, you know.
France isn't any better. With Francois Hollande now at the helm, his concentration is geared towards progress rather than cutting down, following austerity measures the banks and IMF are so keen on.
05-31-2012, 08:24 AM #10
I don't know where that doll gets her figures but according to CIA World Fact Book, IMF and the World Bank figures I managed to extract the Brics account for about 21% of world trade
The US on its own and the EU on its own both account for a far bigger part of world trade than the BRICS nations together.
The EU is close to 30% of world trade and the US close to 26%.
That is 56% of world trade in 2010/2011.
But given the way China has "bought" the USD there is real concern that the currency is in trouble.
But to take it further, international trade is not necessarily done in a specific currency but rather by negotiable instruments that are traded between banks.
These are given in a currency that the parties select or in the currency at the recipient country.
These are trades that count in billions and they do it according to IMF and International Trade Commission rules for trade which sees instruments traded.
So for instance when SA bought those useless fighters, ships and subs from the EU they provided the nations that built these for them with a set of documents called instruments for the value of the deal. These then have a real value in the face for a certain amount of Euro or Dollar or whatever and the countries then trade these to their reserve banks who trade with them through their commercial banks. No money really changes hands but effectively it is a promise by South Africa to pay the bearer of the instrument a certain obscene amount of cash on presentation. They are also only valid for a specified time, like two years or five years or ten years. They are also acceptable tender based on the credit rating of the country. For instance nobody will accept one from Zimbabwe whilst one from Germany would be valid for ten years.
The international trade is controlled by the IMF, World Bank and International Trade Commission.
This is just an attempt to show independence to citizens. The truth is the internationalists who control international trade are still going to demand guarantees and currency reserves and the like to approve trade deals or honour instruments. That is why the undertaking just applies to these five countries - do you honestly think the Money Changers will allow someone to "step out of the system".
Russia survives on hand outs from the EU and for all their bluster the Chinese economy is based on ownership of USD bearer instruments. Without those their economy is buggerall. The Yuan is just the Dollar in another guise. China cannot kill its own economy which is why they cannot afford for America's economy to fold just yet. And the kaffers will do as they are told as long as it's not in an Afrikaans or American accent (iYes my fraternal soshaleest brudda who sevved my peepow in solly deritee Amandla]) and the Chinks and Charras just smile and wave. And as long as a koelie has a BMW, designer brand named clothes and a white girlfriend he's happy.
The last guys who did that was Nazi Germany...
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