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27 May 2013 @ 12:59:15 pm
Frail Parks Southern Africa
We all have to retire one day, some just sooner than others. What better way then than retirement on wheels. The Frail Parks concept will make it easier for elderly campers to stay on the road and enjoy the outdoor life they love for longer. To create a Frail Park that you would like to use, we need your participation in designing the services you would need.
27 May 2013 @ 13:07:15 pm
27 May 2013 @ 18:15:41 pm
Can work i like
27 May 2013 @ 20:50:31 pm
You may not use this forum to ask members to mail you. Its called phishing.
27 May 2013 @ 22:44:37 pm
Thanks for that advice Willem (WilSur). It was not meant like that, but now that you point it out I realize it is. I will certainly try and steer away from that in future. What I actually want is for campers to comment on the concept and add their own ideas. The picture I shared was taken from one of the notes of my f/b page with the same name, and so the "phishing" bit was already in there.
28 May 2013 @ 08:36:19 am
Interesting concept. I am not quite there yet but not too far away.
28 May 2013 @ 09:10:26 am
Hi there , are you looking at parks that exist or the build of new parks? Or will it be a part of a park that exist. Good idea and if it work i am sure a lot of elderly people wil make use of it.
28 May 2013 @ 14:33:24 pm
I was about to ask the same questions, but Hennie beat me to it. I also think it is a great idea. Those that are still fairly fit could also assist those that are much older and in need of some assistance, for example, helping them to unpack, set up their awnings, etc, etc. thereby making it so much more enjoyable for all concerned. I think it would be great for our really seasoned camping buddies so that they may be able to carry on camping for an extended period of time.
29 May 2013 @ 09:43:00 am
My wife and I both like the idea. I see the question has already been asked whether it will be new parks etc.... Am I missing something as I have not seen an answer to the question
29 May 2013 @ 11:22:14 am
Thanks to forum admin for changing my 2nd post, and not cutting it completely. I appreciate your help in this regard.
29 May 2013 @ 12:54:38 pm
Frail Parks Southern Africa is a concept designed by the Your Retirement organization that help elderly people by providing information through their three facebook pages.
We started promoting the concept of Frail Parks in January 2013, and are still in the planning stage, hoping to establish the first of about thirty parks in South Africa by the end of 2014, covering all 9 provinces and about 300 to 500 km from each other.
Instead of retiring to one Retirement Village, our members will be able to enjoy retirement in any and all of the Frail Parks, even neighboring countries (later on), so they will be on tour permanently.
Our first phase is to compile a list of people who are interested and willing to help us establish Frail Parks. We call this our Booking List, and from this list we will decide WHERE the first park will be, once we have 500 names (with hometowns)ONLY THEN WILL IT BE DECIDED WHETHER TO START DEVELOPING A NEW PARK, OR TAKE OVER AN OLD PARK.
Partnerships with established caravan parks and city councils will be considered throughout South Africa once we decided on the locations determined by our Booking List.
Your comments on this forum will show us whether there is a need for Frail Parks to be established !
30 May 2013 @ 03:09:12 am
In the next view weeks we will explain the seven categories of services, as seen in our 2nd post,one by one in separate posts. Your comments on each of these services will help us decide what to keep and what not to. This is probably the first time ever that clients get to choose and recommend services in the caravan park they plan to visit in future ! You can help us create the ultimate Frail Park.
30 May 2013 @ 07:00:36 am
Klink na 'n blink plan ek sal ook na so iets kyk.
01 Jun 2013 @ 16:39:04 pm
In our first category of services " TOURIST STOP-OVER " the following on demand services are currently under consideration for members approval
Assistance with anything from pitching/parking to bathing.
Cleaning anything from dishes to clothes to vehicles.
Meals - normal, diabetic and even pecks.
Transport from and to airport, restaurant, hospital, shops etc.
Non-presciption medication, massages, bandage replacement etc.
Haircut, facial, manucure/pedicure.
Tourist info on local sightseeing / winetasting tours.
We might have overlooked the most important service to you, so please comment and tell us what service you would like to enjoy as a tourist visiting a Frail Park for a day or two.
Next week we will invite your comments on our third category " Prolonged Visits "
02 Jun 2013 @ 11:22:39 am
Klink na 'n blink idee.
06 Jun 2013 @ 13:59:15 pm
14 Jun 2013 @ 09:09:39 am
2013-06-14 Vandag verduidelik ons 'n diens wat by geen ander woonwapark of hotel beskikbaar is nie, maar wat ons by Frailparks wil aanbied. Reageer asseblief hierop en vra gerus vrae indien u nie die diens se funksie verstaan nie. Ons sal beslis nie die heel ernstige gevalle met hierdie diens kan help nie maar ons hoop om wel 'n groot verskil in talle se lewens te bring.
18 Jun 2013 @ 13:26:49 pm
Soos die Beatles gesing het - This happened once before, no reply ! Ons wou graag u reaksie op nog twee dienste gehad het, en sou nog inligting daaroor plaas, maar dit blyk nie van belang te wees in die forum - of is ek verkeerd !
18 Jun 2013 @ 14:34:45 pm
By the time these parks get going i will be in lala land. Or that is what i think. It is a good consept and can work for the want to travellers. And i will most probably olso look at it when the time arrives.
19 Jun 2013 @ 09:19:15 am
Hoe meer ek hieroor dink hoe meer besef ek dat die idee nie kan werk nie. En ek dink die rede is eenvoudig:
Frailty of dan Broosheid en Caravanning/Kampeer gaan nie saam nie.
Dit is nou maar eenmaal 'n lewensfeit. Ouer mense wat reeds begin swak word en broos word het gewoonlik nie meer die intense belangstelling in die dinge wat Kampeer of rondreis bied nie, en hulle kan eenvoudig nie meer die eise van kampeer hanteer nie: soos byvoorbeeld die stappery na die ablusieblok of die minimum ruimte in Woonwaens se ingeboude Stort- en ablusiegeriewe nie.
Natuurlik wil ons almal graag kampeer tot ons omval: maar ons moenie vergeet nie ons kyk nou na kampeer deur die bril van redelike gesondheid en belangstelling.
My karavaan het ek gekoop by 'n man wie se kniee ingegee het en wie toe maar kampeer opgegee het omdat hy nie meer die trappies van die Woonwa kon klim nie.
Onlangs het een van ons ou kampeervriende hier op Caravanparks, of was dit nou wegsleep?, sy Wa verkoop en met weemoedigheid gegroet omdat hy en vroutjie besef het dat hulle gesondheid nie meer sterk genoeg is vir kampeer nie.
In Suid Afrika heers daar 'n ander soort van oudword-gesindheid. Miskien kan die konsep werk in ander lande, waar mense permanent in kampeerhuise woon, maar ek dink nie dis haalbaar in SA nie. In ons land het meeste ou mense beplan om, eendag wanneer hulle regtig oud is, hulle Waens te verkoop en in 'n stabiele versorgingseenheid in te trek, omdat meeste kampers vandag finansieel daartoe on staat is. Die kampers wie dit nie sal kan bekostig nie, sal waarskynlik hulle Waens moet verkoop vir 'n ekstra geldjie en dan in 'n goedkoop munisipale woonstelletjie intrek of in 'n woonstelletjie wat deur hulle Kerk bedryf word.
As ek nou die bestuur van Frailparkswas, sou ek eers 'n baie deeglike lewensvatbaarheidstudie by kampe soos Die Eiland, Tshipise en so aan gedoen het.
Want dit kan gebeur dat Frailparks wel een of twee oorde van die grond af kry, maar ek kan nie sien dat dit gewild gaan wees of 'n nuwe kultuur kan skep nie. Daarvoor is die Suid Afrikaanse ekonomie en veiligheidsistuasie net te onstabiel.
27 Jun 2014 @ 13:26:44 pm
Sounds good, will have to wait and see.
28 Jun 2014 @ 16:47:45 pm
Saad, ek stem 100% saam met jou. In lande soos VSA, Europa, miskien Australië waar daar 100 keer meer "kampeerders" is, kan dit dalk werk. Op hierdie froum is daar handvol lede wat permanente kampers is, en soos jy sê, reeds bepan om teen "eina" tyd op te pak en op te hou kamp, soos ons, waarna ek dink jy dalk verwys het.
Ek betwyfel die vatbaarheid van die idee in SA>
28 Jun 2014 @ 17:36:23 pm
Ek dink dit kan werk as jy maar net kyk na die swaaltjies hulle is al by n duisend en van hulle het nerens om te gaan nie.
30 Jun 2014 @ 20:19:59 pm
Thanks for your comments Lionel, Frans and WJ. I have been off-air from this forum for about a year as the replies I posted were not shown. Your's were the first notifications I received in about a year, so it seems the forum's problems (or mine) have been fixed and I will start posting on this forum about the Frailpark concept again on a regular basis.
Intussen is u welkom om enige vrae te stel wat ek so gou moontlik sal beantwoord.
03 Jul 2014 @ 22:16:19 pm
04 Jul 2014 @ 09:50:15 am
Ek dink ons kan gerus hierna begin kyk, en dalk kan ons in SA ook so iets suksesvol begin, wie nie waag nie sal nie wen nie.
Aanvanklik het die naam "FRAIL" my effens af gesit, maar nou dink ek dit kan net dalk werk.
04 Jul 2014 @ 10:43:59 am
All that concernes me in this regard, is a lot of older/frail campers still like going to National parks and other scenic places where there are existing parks. If the Frail park consept means new parks, would there be space for one at mentioned places?
I would rather lobby for lets say 3 to 6 stands per existing park, positioned and grouped in clusters in such a way that access is easy, and that they have there own kitchen/ bathroom units for every cluster.
09 Jul 2014 @ 19:29:29 pm
Ja Johann, die meeste mense was afgesit deur die naam aangesien 'n jong persoon niks wil weet van ouer persone se probleme en behoeftes nie. Ek kon net sowel medisyne probeer verkoop (teen afslag pryse) aan iemand wat nie tans siek is nie, met die selfde resultate. Ek beplan steeds om met tyd al die genoemde dienste te promiveer maar dit sal vir die park eienaars gesamentlik wees om te besluit wat aangebied sal word teen watter prys. Ons sal in die toekoms konsentreer op die goedkoop lede gelde en ander voordele verbonde aan die konsep.
Back packer, it seems you have not read through my post of 3 July stating the use of 5 or more sites in existing caravan parks. I agree that National parks should partner with Frailparks but that is for the Primary co-op to negotiate with SAN Parks.
By the way, our calculation of 100 parks in SA makes it possible to have Frailparks not more than 350 kilometers from each other, so one day's easy driving.
10 Jul 2014 @ 21:05:23 pm
Die naam sit ook nie lekker nie, as ek dit sou maak tot by frail, wat ek regtig nie hoop nie, gaan dit beter wees in n gestig waar my doeke geruil word, en sop my kos is.
Vir nou wil ek kamp, my pilletjie sluk in die oggend, vanaand vuurmaak en braai, met n knerts in my hand, niks "frail" nie.
Wil lekker rondry waar ek wil, en nie "time Share" he in die Vrystaatse hooglande die tyd van die jaar nie, dan is dit seker goedkoop, maar sleg vir die oumense se borskaste.
Maar, as jy vir Raymond Ackerman vra om ons te join, en hy verkoop X hoeveelheid bednagte per jaar, dan gaan die nommers werk. Indien al die lede op die forum, weet nie hoeveel nie, sou besluit om hulle jaarlikse kampeerkostes bymekaar te sit, dan het jy " leverage" wat kan werk vir ons oues.
22 Jul 2014 @ 02:17:23 am
Nege park eienaars, een van elke provinsie in Suid Afrika word benodig om die eerste fase van Frailparks te begin. Indien u 'n park wil aanbeveel is u welkom. Die park sal egter eers by ons facebook blad moet aansluit en dan deur 'n keuring proses moet gaan.
22 Jul 2014 @ 07:31:37 am
Frail Parks I agree I never read the post through, as my sight is not what it should be, and the blur of the letters sort of made it a bit difficult.