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Here we chat about modern inline muzzleloading rifles
by varkie » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:31 am
Ek het raad nodig. Ek het 'n cva optima. Vir die 3 jagte wat ek nou al gedoen het[vark, rooibok en n koedoe] was daar geen bloedspoor nie. Ons moes elke keer letterlik loop en soek na die dier. Ek kan ook se dat al 3 dubbellong skote was en dat die koel elke keer aan die anderkant uit is. En wanneer ons afslag is die hele borsholte gevul met liters en liters bloed.
My toerusting vir al 3 jagte was die cva optima met 85gr sannadex en 'n hornady ftx 250gr punt. Ek kry uistekende groeperings maar hoekom is daar nie bloed nie? Verkeerde punte? lading te lig? Koel trek te stadig?
En my laaste vraag. Ek het al gehoor van casull punte as ek dit nou reg uitspreek. Wie het al met dit geskiet en wat is jul ondervinding.
Re: Geen bloed
by Mutt » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:31 am
Varkie, those jacketed bullets are passing right through without hitting very hard bone, so they are not mushrooming very much. If the entry and exit wounds remain small they will clot very fast leaving very little blood spoor. If you changed to pure lead bullets you would see a very different result.
by wildeboer » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:23 pm
Ek het n voorlaaier gehad(in-line) wat ek met n modified .454casull se punte geskiet het. Die mold was n bietjie korter gemaak om 'n punt te gooi van 330gr. Hy het .457" gemeet en het ek hom in 'n Harvestor Crush Rib sabot geskiet uit 'n 1:28 twist. Dodelik met 'n 95gr Sannadex lading, hy wou nie groepeer met 'n laer lading. Die punt het 'n duidelike stomp punt voor en het nogals vleisskade gegee as jou skootplasing bietjie sleg was(bladskoot beteken baie bloedvleis), ek het dus lae borsskote geskiet om die enjin te stop. Hy het 'n paar vlakvarke se handbriek net daar opgetrek.
Ek tsel ook voor om dalk eerder na ander punte te kyk, dalk eerder cast boolits uit sabots of conicals eerder dan.
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by Swanie » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:03 pm
As jy conicals gaan, bly net ver weg van Real se conicals af. Ek wou al my Inline veruil vir n Slingervel van moedeloosheid. Laai vanaf 70 grein tot op 130 grein en hy groepeer met daai Real conicals soos n hael geweer nie kan droom om te doen nie.
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by Gunsports » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:35 am
Varkie: Welcome to the mad house.
Mutt is correct. What works in muzzle guns, are large wound channels; as these guns cannot rely on high velocity, to get the work done. Large wound channels mean large (cross section) bullets, or bullets that are capable of mushroom to a large caliber. When using a .45 caliber bullet in a muzzle gun, the bullet's cross section is on the small side; which will cause wound closure, as Mutt has said. To enhance the effectiveness of the .45 cal bullet, it should be of pure lead; and have a near flat point. A wadcutter would be ideal; but this could create bullet stability problems. Next is the Keith type bullet, with a large, flat point and sharp shoulders. This will cause a larger wound channel and cause bleeding; both internally and externally.
If the 250 grn bullet gives you good accuracy, try getting hold of some .44 or .45 Colt lead bullets. They are close (240 grn odd) and can be purchased commercially. Try them for accuracy first and if they work, but the mold and cast your own from pure lead. The heavier weight of pure lead will up the weight a little.
by Trekker » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:09 am
of as jy van Hornady hou skiet hulle SST in 300gn mooi bloed en akkuraat in inlines.Lekker swaar en hulle is gebou om te mushroom
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by wildeboer » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:05 pm
Trekker wrote: of as jy van Hornady hou skiet hulle SST in 300gn mooi bloed en akkuraat in inlines.Lekker swaar en hulle is gebou om te mushroom
Hul is net vrek duur!
by tinker » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:32 am
I STILL FIND 370 Grn MAXIBALL IS THE BEST.
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