Siener van Rensburg - Page 85 - Stormfront
11-27-2009, 03:33 AM #841
Sometimes we have to be humble enough to accept the olive branch, even from an atheist.
You never know when you might need a helping hand, no point in making enemies as you go along.
Enemies might stab you in the back one night in a dark alley.
11-27-2009, 04:34 AM #842
11-27-2009, 04:38 AM #843
This is more up my alley... I thank you DavidS.
Getting emotional about me and the barchair extention is futile DS - we understand each other without any understanding... But sometimes you do manage to say a sensible thing or an attempt anyway - Good for you, english.
Many are in awe of Siener, but like it is with the majority, they are "ignorant background" and unsure of themselves (because of the english verleiding - not my words, but Seer's. Stop killing the damn messenger) and will do as you say and perish leaving us in a bigger mess maybe.
They will say screw SVR or not know about him at all because being a christian male is sissy... or have fallen for the "only be discreet about it" adultery going around our volkie... or "if you dont get caught, you're not guilty". All english tutored via HWood movies to our people. Transferred norms to innocent white boere.
The second is if Pawillie is right and we all need to sit on our bums and "kripeer" going "woe is us!" until the "right" moment arrives (in accordance with the visions of Siener) and it does not because we were all waiting then Papwillie's utter faith proven to be misplaced because at the end of the day the Boere did nothing because they were waiting for theri prophet's seerage to come true rather than take up the cudgels and do what needed to be done.
You sound quite suicidal and hopeful that I am wrong DS - he-he. Pathetic is laughable sometimes. At least you are starting to think for yourself... Good!!!
If you want to see for yourself if SVR is true, read the books and see the things he was right about. Thats according to my logic and even according to the bible a good way to test a true prophet.
Make a dicision from there for yourself.
You could be right either way. I could be the fool for just believing the WordofGod and stick to it, but I have made my choice. Dying is everyones lot. I believe in everlasting life after 1st death (I also believe aliens exist because logic again tells me that it is highly unlikely for the Creator of heaven and earth to have forgotten about the other spheres He made). (And who do you suppose is rediculing me for it??? - the hopeless background - he-he - so little imagination its pitiful)
I will take the consequences - as I cannot see hope in relying on us little whites(750 000 fighting males about) taking up arms unless the die-out ofthe black is already at such proportions that we can take up arms and it came from God - the Israel way - through His prophets in the current day and there are a lot of them... Not before then. But what about our woman and children if the men go off anyway - which is gonna happen according to SVRensburg and the woman in Jo-burg/pretoria is going to end up black's bitches. They will kill your white baby/toddler/teenager sons, so take them along to war. Rather teach them from baby to be a soldier than to die by the hands of mommys new lover. Can you imagine the race after that we will have to conted with if your son also becomes the lovers lover. Children are going to get born from that... please supply your women with plenty of birth control pills for in case... or move yerself gradually out of Gauteng. "but thats where the money is" - mammon is keeping you in control and he is going to reap your harvest. Listen!
Start to serve God of All - the Father of Yeshua and He will deliver you and yours.
What else do you have but yerselves oh hopeless ones?
I know this is hard words, but if you believe in prophetic word, be reminded that its a hard reality mentioned by SVRensburg who most of the Boere consider to be a true prophet.
11-27-2009, 05:06 AM #844
To survive as a white race, we need to do the right things.
Train, plan, equip and head the warnings God gave us.
11-27-2009, 04:37 PM #845
Listen schmuck, I can't help you can't string two words of simple english together or even spell them for that matter. Your ignorance is now plain for all to see considering the answering comments to my post!
I have a book you can borrow, Internet for dummies, it tells you how to log on anywhere in the world............duh!!
As always its a pleasure to give you a lesson in insult and spelling!
11-28-2009, 02:36 PM #846
Take a leaf from the lesson book you preached at me...
It serves no purpose to debate with the brainless...
Kat is a cat is a schizoid cat...
He is only good for a s****** or two...
11-28-2009, 05:07 PM #847
True David I never learn.
11-29-2009, 02:55 AM #848
Kopraal - you said it....
Uhhhh - I think you mispelled "duh"
11-29-2009, 04:26 PM #849
By the looks of it you cannot even master basic afrikaans let alone english.
Papwillie.... you have heard of viagra right?
As always its a pleasure to stick it to you, ignoramus.
12-05-2009, 12:05 PM #850
Ons pos graag die volgende met toestemming van die skrywer,
Oor die afgelope paar jare steek hierdie tendens al meer kop uit onder ons Volk. oral word met kleur en fleur vertel: 'Oom Siener het dit gesê....Siener het dat gesê...'
Dis asof die Volk hierdie man se woorde meer begin vertrou as gewone Protestantse geloof in die voorsienigheid van die Here!
Ek het al verskeie boeke van Siener se visioene gelees, waar van diê van Adriaan Snyman, asook dié van Prof. Andries Raath sekerlik die bekendste is. Ek is tans weer besig om Prof. Raath se boek te lees aangesien ek dit as die mees wetenskaplike navorsing sien rakende Siener van Rensburg se visioene. Adriaan Snyman is te geneig om sy eie interpretasie vermeng met 'n tikkie Israel Visie te wil voorgee as korrekte verklarings of uitlegte van die visioene.
Die invloed van hierdie visioene op ons volk se geskiedenis, asook ons visie op die toekoms kan nie onderskat word nie. Die korrektheid en akkuraatheid van die visioene is ook telkemale, veral tydens die Anglo-Boere oorlog, bevestig. Vandaar hierdie onwrikbare geloof van sekere mense in die egtheid van die voorspellings.
Ek het egter twee besware teen Siener van Rensburg, of dan eerder die navolgers van Siener van Rensburg.
Eerstens: Soos hierbo genoem, glo hierdie 'dissipels' meer in die woorde van die profeet, as in die Een wat die profeet gesuur het.
Tweedens: Die uitlegte van die visioene is so uiteenlopend (selfs vir dieselfde visioen) dat dit van geen waarde vir die leser is nie. Dit is basies 'n leë doek waarop die leser enige iets self kan skilder na gelang van oortuiging, vrees en begeerte.
Ek haal die volgende voorbeeld aan:
"In die Ooste kant is baie skoon mielies. Die mielies word altyd meer en toe kom die halfwasse (eenkies) deurmekaar van kleure om die mielies en vreet aan die mielies. Ver in die ooste is 'n kuil. In die kuil kyk swarte beeste uit"
Verklarings van bogenoemde visoen:
1) BM (Boy Mussman, persoonlike vriend van Siener): Engelse (geel); kuil in die ooste dui op verdrukking van die Indiërs.
2) NvZ (Nellie van Zyl, dogter van Siener): In Pretoria is 'n denkrigting van vinnig vorder. Toe kom die jongmense van alle kleure onder die indruk van die beleid en aanvaar dit. In Rusland is 'n geheime/afgesonderde plek. Swartmense kyk uit die kuil uit (kommunistiese opleiding in Rusland)
"In die ooste is koppe wêreld. Waans trek achter mekaar dat die stof achter hul uitslaan. Die waens kom na ons in die zuide. In die ooste is koppe en rook slaan tussen die koppe uit later baie. die mense kom ingezicht en hul veg hard. In die ooste trek waens naar die Z.W. (nabij)"
!) BM: Blankes het gevlug uit Duits-Oos, Tanganjika, Kenia ens. (Kilimanjaro) tot by Kaapstad (al reeds gebeur)
2) NvZ: Van die ooste Rhodesië/Mosambiek vlug mense haastig weg. Hul vlug na ons toe in die suide. Tussen die koppe in die ooste word geveg en later baie hewiger. Ek sien die mense en hul veg hard. Hul trek na die suid-weste (naby)
*Bron: Die Vierkleur wapper weer - A.W.G. Raath en N. van Zyl
bladsye: 118 en 119
Met hierdie twee voorbeelde volstaan ek. Dit is slegs ter illustrasie van die trant van die hele boek se verklarings rondom Siener se visioene.
Ek dink u sal met my saamstem, dat indien hierdie twee persone (wat intiem bevriend was met Siener) nie eers ooreen kan kom of selfs raakpunte in hul uitlegte openbaar nie, hoe kan ons dan enigsins probeer om dit te interpreteer?
Dit is dus my opinie, dat alhoewel interessante leerstof, Siener se visioene in dieselfde lig as die van Nostradamus gesien kan word aangesien dit GEEN presiese aanduiding of waarskuwing bevat nie. Altans niks meer as die Beeld, Rapport en SABC nuus elke aan nie. Ek het geen 'siener' of 'visioen' nodig om my te oortuig dat ons in die pekel is nie - die hedendaagse media asook kennis van die politieke dinamika van Afrika oor die afgelope 100jr is oortuigend genoeg.
Vir die toekoms? Daar steun ek weer op my geloof in Christus en ek kan dus onomwonde verklaar dat ek WEET dat die Vierkleur weer sal; wapper aangesien die Almagtige genade betoon aan die wat Hom vrees en ook dié wat met Hom spot vernietig.
Dus, gebaseer op die media en logiese waarneming: Ons is in die moeilikheid en dinge gaan nog erger word.
Gebaseer op my geloof: Ons sal oorleef en oorwin.