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Subject: Koi with four legs Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:43 am
I found this in one of my ponds this morning. Not sure what it is. Any idea? 'n Ratel?
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:58 am
Paul ek sal ook se dit lyk na 'n ratel of soos ons hom in engels ken "honey badger" maar ek moet se die wit of silver op sy rug is nie so dig soos op die photos van ratels nie.
Honey badgers are generalist carnivores with an extremely wide diet. More than sixty species of prey were recorded from the southern Kalahari alone. Badgers eat a host of smaller food items like insect larvae, beetles, scorpions, lizards, rodents and birds. They will catch the larger reptiles like leguaans, crocodiles (1 meter) and pythons (3meters) and include the highly venomous adders, cobras and black mamba in their diet. Larger mammals like the Springhare, polecat and particularly juvenile foxes, jackals, antelope and wild cats, are also caught.
They locate their prey predominantly by their acute sense of smell and catch most of their prey through digging. As many as fifty holes may be dug in a single foraging period and badgers may cover distances that exceed 40 kilometers in a 24 hour period. Honey badgers are accomplished climbers and can easily climb up into the uppermost branches of trees to raid bird nests or bee hives. In the Kalahari they have been seen raiding various raptor nests, including the Pale Chanting Goshawk, which is frequently seen in association with badgers.
Honey badgers are not listed on the International Red Data List (IUCN 2001) but they are listed on Appendix III of CITES in Botswana and Ghana. A species is included on Appendix III at the request of a Party that already regulates trade in the species and that needs the cooperation of other countries to prevent unsustainable or illegal exploitation (CITES 2004). International trade in specimens of species listed in this Appendix is allowed only on presentation of the appropriate permits or certificates.
Honey badger are also listed as Near Threatened in the most recent South African Red Data List (2002). In the Cape provinces of South Africa, badgers are a schedule 2 protected wild animal (Nature & Environmental Conservation Ordinance, 1974; a permit is required to kill or move honey badger), but they are essentially unprotected outside of game reserves and national parks in other provinces of South Africa (Rowe-Rowe 1992). In the Western Cape South Africa half of 82 commercial beekeepers surveyed admitted to killing honey badgers despite their protected status (Begg 2001a). In Morocco, honey badgers are protected by law and the species is considered Near Threatened due to the non selective use of poison and traps. In Niger the honey badger is said to be Endangered and in Saudi Arabia they are considered to be rare. In India the honey badger is listed in Schedule I, Part I of the Indian Wildlife (Protection) Act, 1972.
Its status in most parts of its extensive range (particularly West and Central Africa) remains uncertain, but there is little doubt that the honey badger is now absent from many areas where it previously occurred e.g. parts of Morocco (F. Cuzin) and parts of Israel and populations may be becoming increasingly fragmented throughout its range. Certainly in South Africa, the honey badger is now thought to be absent from large portions of the North West, Gauteng, Mpumalanga, southern Kwazulu Natal and areas of the Northern and Eastern Cape provinces
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:27 am
As dit 'n ratel is het ek dalk probleme want dan was hy moontlik agter die vis aan en sy maatjies sal dalk ook kom kuier. Ek sien baie gate in die omgewing.
Hopelik het hy bloot kom water drink en kon nie weer uit nie.
Tog word beweer dat ratels selde water drink. Hulle kry hulle vog uit die kos wat hulle eet.
Een van my visse het dood rond gedryf. Dalk weens die stres veroorsaak deur die Ratel? wat wou uitkom?
Ek het oneindige probleme met Herons gehad die afgelope maand. Waar die nette in die water hang, het hulle eenvoudig die visse deur die nette vol gate gepik. Ek het nou al my nette behoorlik gelig tot ver bo die watervlak en dit gaan nou beter. Hulle besoek egter nog elke oggend en elke aand teen sononder.
Foto wat ek geneem het uit 'n ligte vliegtuig verlede naweek.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:07 am
Jammer om te se, maar dit is nie ‘n Ratel nie!
Kyk na die verskil vam die wit merk op die kop ( Die Ratel het ‘n wit mus op sy kop)
Dit is ‘n Slangmuishond (Slangwesel) Poecilogale albinucha
Totale lengete 40-50cm; stert 12-16cm; skouerhoogte 50cm; massa 220-350g
Lang,dunlyf; taamlik lank, ruie wit stert an baie kort bene; algehele kleur swart met witmus op die kop en vier wit tot gelerige strepe van die kop tot stert.(Word ook met die Stinkmuishond verwar)
Kan in baie habitat leef, maar die meeste optekeninge kom uit grasveldstreke. Onlangse optekenings in fynbos/boerdery-gebied in Suidweste.
Jag klein, warmbloedige prooi, veral knaagdiere. Kos kan opgegaar word of na die skuiling gedra word om ge-eet te word.
So lyk my jou vis is veilig!
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Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:18 am
Check the claws on that blady thing
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:22 am
That's for digging.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:28 am
Ok, that thing has ears so its probably not a ratel but i doubt if its a "Poecilogale albinucha" or African striped weasel as it looks far to big to be one.
Die dier in die photo lyk nie asof die "220-350g" week nie - dit lyk vir my baie groter maar net Paul sal kan se. Die dier op die photo lyk ook baie hoer op sy bene as 'n African striped weasel. Maar dit hang af van die photo.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:37 am
Sien foto in verhouding met 'n standaard groot koi net wat ongeveer 80cm in deursnee is.
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Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:38 am
OK, Nou dink ek pieter is reg. Pieter eks darem bly om tesien jou besoek aan die wildtuin verlede jaar help jou.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:53 pm
Nou maak julle my kop plat!
Dit kan ook 'n Stinkmuishond wees
Paul moet kyk of die strepe op die rug dieselfde is as op die foto.
Stinkmuishonde word so tussen 50 cm tot 70cm lank en weeg tussen 500g tot 1,4 kg.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Fri May 15, 2009 10:56 am
Pieter, jy is reg, toe die muishond droog word kon mens duidelik sien dit is 'n stink muishond.
My nuutste probleem is skilpaaie wat in die damme val, veral nou dat dit begin reen in die Kaap. Hulle klim normaalweg instinktief op na die hoogste punt wanneer hulle aankomende reen verwag. Ek neem aan hulle klim gevolglik op die walle wat om die damme is en rol dan af tot in die water.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Fri May 15, 2009 11:04 am
Ah. the hidden joys of koi farming.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Fri May 15, 2009 11:38 am
Miskien moet jy maar 'n laer net heining om elke dam span of 'n rant met groot klippe bo op die wal rondom die dam pak sodat hulle nie oor kan klim nie.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Fri May 15, 2009 12:21 pm
Ek dink hulle sal wel oor die klipwal kan klouter. Daai diere is gebou om oral te gaan.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Fri May 15, 2009 12:29 pm
Ek sal dit graag wil sien!
Ons praat van 'n SKILPAD, daai diertjie wat sy dop saam met hom dra.
Hulle volg gewoonlik die maklikste pad. (Om 'n klip is beter as oor 'n klip!)
Dit laat my nou dink..............dit is miskien goeie raat aan party van ons Rugby spanne
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Fri May 15, 2009 12:36 pm
Miskien moet jy maar 'n laer net heining om elke dam span
Ek besef, ek het skadunet om alle damme oorweeg. @ R 1000 / 50 meter gaan dit al weer R 4000 kos. Die ander opsie was sinkplaat wat ook die paddas uithou.
Ek wik en weeg nog.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Fri May 15, 2009 1:19 pm
ek dog Koi teel is maklik!
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Fri May 15, 2009 2:28 pm
[quote="Pieter J de Villiers"]
Ag tog, Pieter, ek was nog by die muishond. Nie arme Skillie nie.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs Fri May 15, 2009 3:18 pm
Sorry my Skat,
weet ook nie hoekom jy so lank by die Muishond draai nie, die ding stink moes.
Subject: Re: Koi with four legs