Thread: WIE IS REG? Agri SA of Afri FORUM
09-08-2018, 10:07 AM #1
Ek hoor Agri SA wil die plase vir die regering gee om konflik te voorkom. EN wat dink hulle sal dan gebeur? Hier is wat dan sal gebeur https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...in-zimbabwe-t/
Iemand sal iewers moet leer dat jy nie met n kommunis kan onderhandel nie. Sekere goed is nie onderhandelbaar nie. Die kommunistiese proses werk in siklusse van 40 jaar en na elke 40 jaar begin alles weer van voor af. Die vorige proses het in 1987 geeindig en die huidige proses eindig in 2024.
Wat jy nou weggee sal in die volgende 40 jaar nie genoeg wees nie en jou nageslag sal terwille van jou lamlendigheid om te beskerm wat besienswaardig is, geen toekoms hê om ooit op hulle eie menswaardige voete te staan nie. Nie hier of in Amerika of Australië of in Europa nie.
Ons is die laaste geslag wat iets van die rewolusie weet. Ons kinders is reeds ’n verlore geslag en die ruggraatlose hantering van sake wat vir ons oorlewing ’n baie belangrike faktor is, sal alle toekomstige hoop van ons nageslag ontneem.
As Agri Sa dalk dink dat ek nie verstaan waarvan ek praat nie, is Agri Sa welkom om my daaroor aan te vat. Ek sal vir Agri Sa genoeg studie materiaal kan gee om deur te werk wat nie polities gelaai is nie. Dalk help dit hulle om iets van die huidige omgewing te verstaan.
Hier is die BLF se opinie en dit maak nie saak wat AGRI SA besluit nie. Dit is wat gaan gebeur. Dit is wat die BLF Woensdag in die parlement kwyt geraak het. Ons sal dit seker eersdaags in die koerante ook begin lees.
Was dit die oorweging vir Agri SA se besluit? ( Dit sal hartseer wees as dit die geval was.)
BLF supports the call to amend section 25 of the Constitution so all land in the hands of white people is returned to the hands of black people, that includes amending section 25 of the Constitution so all land in hands of white people is returned to hands of black people. That includes land in Orania, land in Stellenbosch....," he said.
"We are going to take back this land by force because it belongs to us."
Mngxitama declared he was a "proud Constitutional delinquent", inferring that democratic South Africa's founding document protected white people at the expense of the black majority.
Dit was toe ook in die media gerapporteer. https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/New...hands-20180905
(Die berig wat volg is vir die mense wat nie die koerant berig kan oopmaak nie.)
21:39 05/09/2018 Jan Gerber
Mngxitama also said the Constitution was very bad for black people. "I'm a proud constitutional delinquent," he said. Earlier president of the National African Farmer's Union (NAFU) Motsepe Matlala delivered his submission to the committee. He called for an "agricultural Codesa" to find common ground between white and black farmers.
"We can't say the white farmers must be wiped out," he said. He said this would help create a situation where there were "no white farmers, no black farmers".
"There will be South African farmers. That is what we want to achieve." NAFU supports the nationalisation of land.
"We consider the land to be priceless. It should not be sold." He said section 25 of the Constitution should be amended to differentiate between land and buildings.
AgriSA's deputy CEO Christo van der Rheede said the organisation acknowledged the indignity, pain and economic suffering caused by past policies and it was committed to land reform. However, they were opposed to the amendment of the Constitution.
"It is not the Constitution that is failing people," he said. He said the failure to implement land reform was a bureaucratic one. "The real problem is implementation," said his colleague, Dr Annelize Crosby, AgriSA's policy adviser on land reform.
She also said it was definitely the case that there already was an economic effect due to the uncertainty caused by the current land debate. She clarified that AgriSA was not opposed to expropriation, but to expropriation without compensation.
Last edited by Lukas; 09-10-2018 at 11:36 AM.
09-10-2018, 11:42 AM #2
Hier is iets uit die vorige siklus wat as wegspringplek vir die volgende siklus gebruik is.
En dit is net nog n bewys, dat jy nie met n kommunis kan onderhandel nie.
Last edited by Lukas; 09-10-2018 at 11:44 AM.
09-10-2018, 12:03 PM #3
Sodra hulle "n voet in die deur het" met die plase wat Agri SA hulle nou wil gee, dan gaan hulle mos sien dit werk en gaan harder probeer vir die res van die grond.
Dit gaan n duidelike geval wees van gee die pinkie dan gryp hulle die arm.
09-19-2018, 06:42 PM #4
Die grondwet is in ons guns wanneer ons dit reg verdedig, maar as julle nie op n maandelikse basies, in getalle by hierdie organisasies aansluit wat veronderstel is om vir ons regte te veg nie, kan ons hulle nie druk om hulle werk te doen nie.
Ek praat van die burgerregte organisasies en nie van Agri SA nie.