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Easy to use, comfortable strap and live the colors. The quality of this shaded chandelier was above my expectations for the price I paid! Hierdie produk is so wonderlik, nou het ek dit in 1 kleure. Dit is ongelooflik veelsydig en jy kan my oral vergesel. Dit is stewig, luuks, sag en dit lyk seker of ek meer daarvoor betaal het. Ek sal dit aanbeveel aan enigiemand wat die perfekte produk soek en gaan. LELIE - Fleur-de-lis [Archive] - Wendag - Debating Christianity and Religion Forum
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16th June 2007, 17:18
Lees asb eers die WENKRUIS (http://www.wendag.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10) bespreking.
Ek is laataand in Parys waar ek op my balkon kyk na die Eiffel toring wat elke uur, op die uur, in al sy glorie flikker terwyl sy lig al soekend oor Parys sirkel. Ek verstaan nou waarom die Wenkruis bo die kop van die Messias op die Basilique du Sacre Coeur, pryk.
Môre gaan ek terug na die Berg van Martelare. Die Basilique du Sacre Coeur het nog nie sy volle verhaal vertel nie. Daarvan is ek oortuig.
16th June 2007, 17:52
Ek staan aan die voet van die Montmartre (Berg van Martelare). Die Mont Martre is die hoogste heuwel in Parys. Bo-op die heuwel is die manjifieke Basilique du Sacre Coeur, opgedra aan die “heilige hart van Christus.” Die Basilique du Sacre Coeur was die Franse se antwoord op hul gelofte aan God om Parys te spaar, gedurende 1817.
Denis, die eerste apostel van die omgewing was hier onthoof op 9 Oktober, 258 nC. Denis is die eerste christelike martelaar van Frankryk.
Ek stap die helling van trappe uit na die volgende vlak.
16th June 2007, 18:04
Ek staan en kyk na die beeld van Jeanne d’Arc op haar perd, met die veelbesproke swaard in haar hand. Op haar krygsperd se bors pryk die Lelie (fleur de lis). Regs van Jeanne is ‘n ewe groot beeld van Louis IV, algemeen bekend as die Sonkoning. Op sy skild is ‘n veld van lelies.
Johanne, soos sy haar naam geskryf het, was ‘n boeredogter wat skape en beeste op die familieplaas opgepas het. Op die ouderdom van 13 het die engel Michel, met haar begin praat.
17th June 2007, 08:07
"When I was thirteen, I had a voice from God to help me to govern myself. The first time, I was terrified. The voice came to me about noon: it was summer, and I was in my father’s garden. I had not fasted the day before. I heard the voice on my right hand, towards the church. There was a great light all about." (Jeanne d’Arc)
"I vowed then to keep my virginity for as long as it should please God." (Jeanne d’Arc)
"I saw it many times before I knew that it was Saint Michael. Afterwards he taught me and showed me such things that I knew it was he." (Jeanne d’Arc)Johanne verduidelik verder tydens haar verhoor aangaande haar ervaring met engel Michel.
"He was not alone; but duly attended by heavenly angels. I saw them with the eyes of my body as well as I see you. And when they left me I wept, and wished that they might have taken me with them. And I kissed the ground where they had stood, to do them reverence." (Jeanne d’Arc)Die aardsengel Michael, of Michel soos hy aan Johanne bekend gestaan het, is die Krygsengel van God.
En daar het oorlog in die hemel gekom: Michael en sy engele het oorlog gevoer teen die draak, en die draak en sy engele het oorlog gevoer.
17th June 2007, 08:51
The degree of human suffering seen in early fifteenth century France is comparable to that recorded in Biblical history. In completing her heroic mission, it is appropriate that Christian and medieval heraldic symbols dominate Jeanne d’Arc’s mystic legacy. These traditions bonded the people of France to their origins physically, emotionally and spiritually.
When Saint Remy, another great orator, crowned Clovis after baptizing him as a Christian at Rheims Cathedral, three important metaphysical symbols emerged from this first coronation rite that would permanently link the French monarchy with the Catholic Church. First, Rheims would become the one and only sanctuary accepted by the people of France as that country’s legitimate coronation site.
Second, a holy vial known as the Ampulla was (and is) kept in the Abbey of Rheims. It contains the sacre, (consecrated oil), that had sanctified every French coronation. First used to anoint Clovis, it had been delivered to Saint Remy, in the beak of a dove.
The legend of the third symbol, the golden lilies of France or fleurs de lys, comes from Clovis. He had been a pagan until he reached desperation during a crisis. In the heat of battle, he prayed to the God of his Christian wife, Clotilda and won the fight, with his strength having been redoubled. Each of the crescents on his shield became mysteriously replaced by a golden lily (formed by three bound petals), representing the Trinity.
From that point forward, the fleur de lys would be the symbol identified with the all the monarchs of France, with the Church, and would also become associated with Jeanne d’Arc’s crest and family name. The Mystic Legacy of Jeanne d’Arc by Marcia Quinn Noren.
Ek verduidelik later die oorsprong van die lelie as simbool en die verbintenis daarvan met die Boer.
17th June 2007, 09:16
There has been a mysterious absence of attention given to an important detail that seems obviously relevant, as related to Jeanne d’Arc’s personal spiritual connection to the symbol of the fleur.
Op die ouderdom van 17, terwyl die helfte van Frankryk onder Engelse bewind en beleg is, ry hierdie jong Franse boeremeisie te perd na Karel, die troonopvolger van Frankryk. Karel en sy hof het geweet dat die meisiekind op pad is en besluit om haar te toets. Hy trek toe aan soos een van sy howelinge. Johanne stap egter reguit na Karel en sê: “In die naam van God, jy is die koning.”
Daarna het verdere toetse gekom. Johanne is deur Karel se skoonmoeder en ander ouer vroue van die hof, fisies ondersoek om vas te stel of sy ‘n maagd was. Sy was.
Daarna het die kerk haar ondervrae om vas te stel of haar boodskap van God kom, of van Satan. Sy het daardie toets ook geslaag.
Johanne het versoek dat Karel die bevel oor die leer aan haar oordra. Mens kan net dink hoe die generaals daarop moes reageer. Om hul gesag aan ‘n sewentien jaar oue, ongeletterde boeremeisie oor te dra, was ongehoord. Karel het egter wel die gesag van die leër aan Johanne oorgedra.
Johanne word daarna toegerus met lyfpantser en ‘n swaard word aan haar gegee. Sy wys egter die swaard van die hand, want sy weet dat sy haar simbole reg moet kies. Johanne se simole het van God gekom. (Boer, jy moet jou oor nou fyn instel, want ons het ook simbole wat van God kom.)
17th June 2007, 09:47
In the month of April, La Pucelle prepared herself for war. She was guided to call for a specific sword that her voices said was buried behind an altar in the Church of Saint Catherine, in the city of Fierbois. She was told that it would be recognizable by its bearing five crosses. It was brought to her from that place having appeared miraculously;
She would use it in leading her troops, blade pointed downward with the hilt elevated, to form a cross. During the assault, the Sword of Saint Catherine was not just a symbol. It received and struck blows. But in her testimony, Jeanne d’Arc testified that she had never taken a life with it.
Her spiritual guides directed the design of her white battle standard. Over the field of golden fleur de lys, were sewn many religious images, symbols and names held sacred.
Johanne se simbole was die swaard met die vyf kruise en die goue lelie.
Die beeld van die 17-jarige Franse boeremeisie op haar perd, wat aan die voorpunt van haar leër, vreesloos op die vyand afstorm, met swaard omhoog, is vasgelê in die psige van die mensdom.
Binne 4 maande verdryf Johanne die Engelse en plaas Karel op die troon van Frankryk. Hierdie gebeure word, soos Bloedrivier, vandag nog as ‘n aangrypende wonderwerk beskou.
Johanne was twee keer in veldslae verwond. Nadat Karel as koning van Frankryk gekroon is, verhef hy die boeremeisie se status tot adelike, deur middel van die sertifikaat hieronder. Op Johanne se amptelike wapen pryk nou, die vyf kruise swaard, twee lelies en 'n kroon (ook met lelies).
In hierdie stadium het Jehanne versoek om terug te gaan na haar huis, omdat haar taak afgehandel was. Sy is egter gedwing om aan verdere veldslagte deel te neem.
Ek plaas ook Johanne se handtekening.
17th June 2007, 10:55
Twintig jaar Johanne vermoor is, teken haar bejaarde moeder appel aan. Haar appel slaag en Johanne word van alle aanklagte waaraan sy voorheen skuldig bevind is, kwytgeskeld.
Johanne is later deur Bennedictus XV tot heilige verklaar. Die sirkel is voltooi, want daar is weer 'n Benedictus op die pouslike troon.
Johanne is nie die enigste gelowige wat vir haar geloof vermoor is nie.
In March 1562 approximately 1,200 Huguenots were slaughtered in Vassy. And in August 1572, a further 8,000 Huguenots were massacred in the infamous attack at St Bartholomew's.
Die Hugenote stap aan wal aan die suidpunt van Afrika. Hulle bring saam met hulle die lelie van Johanne aan wal.
Die Lelie en die Wenkruis ontmoet aan die suidpunt van Afika.
Die Wenkruis, patriargaal.
Die Lelie, matriargaal.
Ek plaas die Hugenote kruis.
17th June 2007, 11:27
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20th June 2007, 10:26
DOM verwysend na U pos van Son Jun 17, 2007 11:10 am het ek hierdie webwerf gekry wat nogal intressant is.
Gaan loer as U kans het.
20th April 2010, 07:56
20th April 2010, 10:38
Ek moet seker blind wees maar eke sien dit nog steeds nie want ek het hier gelees maar kon dit nie sien nie..
Miskien bietjie meer hulp dalk 'n link.
20th April 2010, 12:46
20th April 2010, 13:34
Baie dankie, ek waardeer jou verduideliking in afrikaans..Dit is nogal interressant hierdie syfer 13.
20th April 2010, 13:40
Nog een laaste ding,
Nou wat maak die vrou soos hierbo aangedui spesiaal?
21st April 2010, 08:16
Ag ek weet nie wat ek verwag het oor die getal 13 nie, iets heel anders dalk.
Wat het jy vewag?
21st April 2010, 09:47
Ek weet nie ek kry die gevoel dat dertien 'n baie belangrike rol gaan speel in ons lewens ek het self bietjie navorsing gaan doen oor die simboliese nommer dertien, ek sal later dit pos sodra ek klaar is.
21st April 2010, 10:08
Die nommer 13 is die getal van die Goddelike vrou wat deur Siener en Johanna Brandt voorspel is en daarom is dit ook gekoppel aan die wederkoms.
21st April 2010, 11:12
Hoe is die nommer dertien aan haar gekoppel in watter verband? Kan jy my dalk inlig.
21st April 2010, 13:54
Hier is wat ek gekry het oor die getal 13...
From a numerological perspective, we first recognize the presence of the 3. Symbolic meaning of number three is vast and powerful. At its simples, the symbolic meaning of the number three deals with:
The meaning of Three is about the union of two parts to create a unique whole. That point of union forms the fruit of knowledge -it is our access point to unlimited potential.
It is no accident that all the mystic teachings incorporate the power of three within their folds. Three represents the union of the numbers prior to it (One and Two). Numerologically speaking, if One represents force, and Two represents an opening, then Three is the birthing of true wisdom.
Manly Hall said "Three is the equilibrium of the unities." We see this in innumerable forms:
•	Spirit, Mind, Body
•	Father, Son, Holy Ghost
•	Mother, Father, Child
•	Power, Intellect, Love
•	Creation, Preservation, Destruction
•	Thought, Feeling, Emotion
Just to name a few occurances of trinities in esoteric perspectives.
The meaning of Three deals with finding the right mix between the two founding pillars of our life constsruct. In the cards we see the meaning of three as a sort of culmination.
We can look to the triangle for assistance here. If we see the process of growth as a triangle, we move up lateral sides to reach the tip, essentially ascending to the top by incorporating our duality. By working together, we find unity. Conversely, we may descend the philosophical triangle in order to reach the source. This is still done by unifying our strongest attributes.
The meaning of Three reminds us we are all connected and it is only through this connection that progress can be made. To further our understanding of Three, we may meditate upon these
questions - please keep in mind - these are highly conceptual questions. I'm asking you to think in terms of intangibles rather than solid experience:
•	Are the sum of my parts working together towards unified glory?
•	How can I find strength through the sacred trinity?
•	If I had to assign philosophical meanings to each side of a triangle, what would they be? Why?
•	How can I utilize this philosophical triangle to propel me into an existence on a higher level?
•	What does it feel like to be in between
•	What is my concept of time? Friend or foe? How does this affect my life?
•	What kind of structure do I have in place that secures my spiritual evolution?
Visually, the meaning of Three illustrates (tipped horizontally too):
•	Female form - Nurturing, life giving
•	Labyrinth - Making sense of variables
•	Eyes - Having the vision to see the connections
•	Lemniscate (when two 3s pressed together forming an infinity symbol) - Union of the divine creates infinite possibility
We then recognize the presence of the number 1, which precedes the number three. This amplifies the preexisting symbolic meaning of the number one, which deals with:
The meaning of One is about the initial point of contact. The Zohar indicates: "When the Unknown of Unknowns chose to be revealed, it came as one point of light."
This statement is profound. It is in this statement that we derive the prime meaning of number One. If we come from the understanding that prior to One there is void - we begin to see the gravity represented by One.
Effectually, One changes the landscape. It alters the entire view of what was before.
When we encounter One's in our lives or in the cards we are asked to recognize that which sets the fire to burn. In other words, we must observe the point of ignition in our lives. This analogy is best illustrated with a few questions you may ask yourself when confronted with the meaning of One:
•	What is the point of contact that lights up my life?
•	What beginning action must be taken to move me in a desired direction?
•	Where is the point of entry? That space I can enter into in order to clearly see and change my landscape?
Alternatively, the meaning of One is also an indicator of completion. Just as we see reference to the beginning (the Alpha) One also symbolizes the ending (the Omega). Even in the ending's One is changing the landscape of our lives, because as an ending approaches we must become aware of a new beginning on its heels.
Lastly, and perhaps most importantly the number One reminds us to focus. It is only through concentration that we are able to accomplish anything. With singleness of mind, body and spirit there is no end to our potential. In this light, we can identify our objective and see clearly to our prime purpose (which, ideally, would be to ease into the knowledge of our highest, truest selves).
Meaning of One in Western numerology and Tarot ? a quick reference:
Visually, the meaning of One illustrates:
•	Door - One way in, one way out
•	Street - A path in a new direction
•	Staff - A motion in one direction
•	Arrow - Hitting the focused target
•	Sword - Cutting through to reach clarity
•	Building - Reaching higher and higher
•	Incorruptible nature