ons Afrikaner private godsdiens (aka oom Adriaan part 2) | die ander kant
Ek het vertel van oom Adriaan se besoek aan Amahoro. Vir baie Afrikaners ‘n diep geestelike belewenis van versoening met ons eie geskiedenis, en vreemd genoeg hoor ons nou ook die stories van watse indruk dit maak op ander uit verskillende dele van Afrika, omdat die Afrikaners wat hulle ontmoet het bereid is om die donker dele van hulle eie geskiedenis eerlik oor te praat. Ek kon dit nog nie oor my hart kry om vir die vriende wat ek uit Kenia gemaak het te vertel van Ek sal nie langer jammer sê nie. Maar goed, dit net ‘n vinnige update voor ek kom by waaroor ek wil skryf. Oom Adriaan het sy bediende Sarafina saamgebring Amahoro toe. Hulle was saam op die stage gewees, en sy het ons vertel van die Vlok huisgesin. Die verhaal het vir my so verteenwoordigend van ons godsdiensbelewenis geklink. Twee vrae en hulle antwoorde illustreer dit:
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6 Responses to ons Afrikaner private godsdiens (aka oom Adriaan part 2)
nic paton sê:	Junie 17, 2009 om 10:40 vm	The Afrikaaner does not have the monopoly on individualist piety. They are part of a much larger problem whose roots are in the epistemoloy of Descartes – I think therefore I am, rather than that of Ubuntu – I belong therefore I am. But the African experience – Die Groot Trek – adds a survivalist dimension to this. The colonial-explorer mentality meant that \”us and them\” underpinning private spirituality was reinforced over tens of generations. In fact this time of the Great Emergence might just be THE kairos moment wherein Afrikanerdom is wholly converted to a much fuller place in the Kingdom of God – connected, serving, and disciplined – this is my dream, anyway.
Steve sê:	Junie 16, 2009 om 7:41 nm	One big problem with the ACDP is that it sent out far-right propaganda before the last few elections, which means that it too has turned its back on God and preferred to trust in right-wing political sloganising.
Roger Saner sê:	Junie 16, 2009 om 2:16 nm	I agree with you Cobus, part of the problem is that Christians have divorced religion into a private spirituality, and have a different set of standards when they interact in the real world. Our challenge is to live out our faith publicly.
But there’s a real political backlash against this. I listened to a debate a little while back between different political parties, and the ACDP was saying that the reason we have all the trouble that we have in SA right now is that we’ve forgotten God. The other political parties were incensed, saying that the reason we’re in this mess in the first place is because of religion, Christianity in particular.
For us to gain a credible public hearing, we need to be honest about how Christianity can be used to gain power over others, and how when we live out a true Christian faith, this can’t happen, as God is always on the side of the poor, the weak, the oppressed.
We can’t promote “public Christianity” until we own up to the damage it has done, but I think this process will be healing, and is the only way in which Christianity as a religion can re-gain credibility in post-Apartheid South Africa.
Amahoro: modernity fights back « Khanya sê:	Junie 16, 2009 om 9:24 vm	[…] Cobus van Wyngaard (Christian) of Anderkant on ons Afrikaner private godsdiens (aka oom Adriaan part 2) […]
cobus sê:	Junie 12, 2009 om 8:21 nm	Vince
Ek is versigtig vir die judge. Ek kan sien dat ek my eie geloof anders beskryf as ander Christene, maar die geskiedenis van my mense, ook die geskiedenis van oom Adriaan, herinner my dat mense opregte gelowiges kan wees, en tog die pot totaal kan mis sit. Dit maak my versigtig vir die judge, want net dalk gaan my kinders of kleinkinders eendag vertel hoe hulle oupa God totaal misverstaan het, alhoewel ek regtig hard probeer om Jesus te volg.
Vince Aslett sê:	Junie 11, 2009 om 9:05 vm	Sjoe Cobus, dit slaan die spyker so oppie kop, wel gedaan.
Ons doen dit maar nog steeds, nie net as Afrikaners nie, maar as Suid Afrikaners, ons word gesien as Christene in ons kerke en in ons huise, maar wee die een wat dit durf meng met die real world daar buite En daar kom ons maar weereens terug na die verskil tussen Christene en Godsdiens, en die belangrike vraag wat die kerk as n instansie daaran doen? (My gevoel is dat die antwoord eerder een is van “Don’t make waves”)
Nou gaan ek sommer kliphard judge; Baie dink hulle is op die regte pad, hulle is selfs baie seker daarvan, man maar ek dink die pad is sommer baie smaller as wat ons ooit kan dink, n Mens kan nie n closet Christian wees nie, Jesus het nie nog n 007 nodig in Sy span nie, dis n Life changing process – No change, No Jesus