‘We’ll push for freedom of movement at SA borders’ : Lesotho Times
‘We’ll push for freedom of movement at SA borders’
2 May 2012 By Bongiwe Zihlangu
Filed Under: Local News • News	QACHA’S NEK — The Lesotho Congress for Democracy (LCD) has pledged to improve Lesotho’s relations with South Africa to allow Basotho freedom of movement at the country’s borders.
Mothetjoa Metsing, the newly elected LCD leader, told party supporters at a rally in Qacha’s Nek, that it was clear from the snaking queues at South Africa’s borders with Lesotho that something was wrong.
“The bad treatment we get at the borders is indicative of the fact that something is wrong between the two countries,” Metsing said.
“To make matters even worse, some border posts are closed early thus inconveniencing many Basotho.”
Metsing said because Lesotho was landlocked by South Africa, relations between the two needed to be improved to benefit Basotho.
“The situation can be remedied only by improving the ailing relations with South Africa,” Metsing said.
Metsing was elected LCD leader after Prime Minister Pakalitha Mosisili defected from the former ruling party to form his own Democratic Congress (DC) after two years of a bitter factional battles in February.
The LCD leader said if voted into power on May 26 his government will consult the public on what should be done regarding dual citizenship.
According to Metsing, public opinion on the matter was divided because there were those who were calling for the constitutional clause against dual citizenship to be scrapped while others were of the view that its removal would threaten Lesotho’s sovereignty.
“But public input will help in making an informed decision, more especially because there are those who are against dual citizenship while at the same time enjoying its benefits,” Metsing said.
Thousands of Basotho, including those in political leadership, have still not relinquished their Lesotho citizenship despite holding South African identity documents.
Mosisili also told a DC rally on Saturday that it was imperative to work on improving relations with South Africa so that Basotho can enjoy freedom of movement at the borders.
LCD manifesto highlights
Review of the policy on natural resources
Metsing said the LCD will review the policy on natural resources, particularly with regard to diamond mining whereby investors currently get 70 percent of profits while Lesotho gets the remaining 30 percent.
“Lesotho needs to revise the status quo and do the right thing for the nation’s diamonds, to avoid the possibility of civil wars borne of conflict around natural resources,” Metsing said.
“This has to be reviewed in a manner that the investor gets 49 percent of the proceeds made while Lesotho gets 51 percent.”
Metsing said there was already discontent and public anger was flaring up as people demand to know how the diamond wealth generated in the country is being used
Metsing said the only way to come up with sustainable mechanisms for tackling unemployment would be to create jobs throughout the country based on the natural resources of each district.
The LCD leader said districts like Qacha’s Nek, Mokhotlong and Thaba-Tseka, despite high rates of livestock theft, were capable of producing wool and mohair in abundance hence the need to build factories there.
“We will build factories to improve wool production. But that we can only achieve by first averting stock-theft which is rife,” Metsing said.
“We can do that by equipping the police with helicopters and other tools to assist in apprehending thieves. People have been rendered poor because of stock-theft.”
Metsing said the LCD would inject funds into agriculture to generate jobs and feed people.
HIV/Aids is Basotho’s biggest enemy because medication dictated that patients should eat well to remain healthy.
“But the situation now is that most people are forced to take their medication on empty stomachs because they don’t have food. We will fix this by producing food for our people,” Metsing said.
The current sad reality was that some people were living from hand-to-mouth and forced to go to bed on an empty stomach.
Comment by Johannes on 3 May 2012:
ESEKA HO KABA JOALO KA HA U TS’EPISA.
Ha boralipolotiki ba batla thlolo ba bua ntho ena le ena.
Ke a makala hobane LCD, dual citizenship ba e hanne ba re sec 41
of Lesotho constitution prohibits dual citizenship, joale? How
Comment by Concerned citizen on 3 May 2012:
Ha!ha!ha! kea bona basotho le tsietsing ea matlolaterata ana a South Africa heee? Hantle basotho ke eng hakale eo le e hlokang ho RSA ha lele tsietsing ea eona hakale ka maliboho? ‘Na ha ke eso bone South Africa e nkhanela ho ts’ela bordereng ha fela passport eaka e le valid, joale lona ba bang le tsietsing ea eng hakaale? Ke hobane ho na le basotho ba bang ba ratang ho bapalla ka South Africa too much, ba ratang ho ts’ela leha ho sa hlokahale, ke ka hona ba ratang ho lla hakana ka hore ho be le free movement. Ho ka ba le free movement joang linaheng tse peli tse fapaneng? Ache! hee! basotho ba bang ke bo ramehlolo kannete. Aku tloheleng ho tena ma-South Africa hleng, le re tellisa ka batho ba maketseng bano!!! Lulang naheng ea lona, tlohelang ho khalla naha ea batho ba bang basotho ting!!!
Comment by Silky on 3 May 2012:
You failed, useless Mother f*****s !!!! we continue to struggle day in day out! Metsing as a Government spokesperson should have been vocal to RSA and push the Border Agenda. Bonyane Ntate Tsekoa tried, a qetella a entse offend ANC. We appreciate that effort ntate Tsekoa, monna mosotho o etsa joalo. The credit however goes to you as a person not LCD, as a party you have failed dismally in this area. @concerned citizen, of course uena u khotsofetse hobane bophelo ba hau bo fella ka setopong! ke hona moo u apesang lelapa la hau teng.
Comment by Ntja ya ntja tseling!! on 3 May 2012:
Ekaba o qalile ho hlokomela neng Metsing hore rena le bothata boo, hao seke hoa bapalloa horona hleng hale hloka li vote!!
@Silky, ha ke ts’oane le uena hle Silky ka ho reka liphahlo setopong. ‘Na ke ea South Africa neng kapa neng ha ke batla ho ea, ntle le mathata. U ne u lebeletse hore ha u fihla borokhong moo, u seke oa fola mela? Hana Lesotho moo ha u batla li-service ha u fole mela? Le rata ho blaima ma-South Africa ka botsoa le ts’ebetso e monyebe empa le ntse le ts’oana le bona hantle ka mekhoa e mebe. ‘Na le ‘mantaha kea fihla ke itsoela mabakeng aka Joburg, ke ntse ke ts’etse hantle Maseru bridge ka valid passport, ha kea ba le mathata. Joale lona ba special kea ipotsa hore na le batlang. Le batla ho ea khobokana fenstereng kaofela le sa fole? Free movement hare e batle, ha re na nako ea ho tla senyetsoa ke likoeta tsa RSA, re se ntse re tennoe ke likoeta tsa Lesotho mona hakana. Metsing eo oa lona o ea thetsa, o tseba hantle hore taba ea free movement khale e mo hlotse e sa le letona koana, hase ntho’e ka etsahalang le khale. E re re u joetse hee Silky, South Africa ha e na thahasello ea free movement eo ea lona, ha e e batle, khale Lesotho govt e pota taba eo ho RSA ‘me ANC govt e ena interest ea taba eo hohang. Tlohelang ho iphoqisa lisono tseo tsa RSA hleng basotho ba phoqehileng. Hase ntho’e ka etsahalang hohang. Le keke la laela South Africa hore na e etseng, hore na lona le ratang, haholo hobane hase Lesotho feela le ahisaneng le RSA, hase Lesotho feela le rekang thepa RSA, and you are not special to South Africa at all. Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma khale hampe a ile a bolela radio Lesedi hore Lesotho ha le special, bona ba ahisane le linaha tse ngata ha ba ahisana le Lesotho feela, kahoo ba keke ba treata Lesotho ka tsela e fapaneng hohang le linaha tse ling tse ahisaneng le bona. Basotho le llela RSA hakana hobane basotho le fothakelaka batho too much. Le mofuta o khallang lintho tsa batho ba bang hobane le mona. Hoja maburu a se ahe RSA hakale, le ne le tlanne le llele eng hakale? Le llea ho ratoa ke naha e ‘ngoe? Le ithatisa RSA hakale molato keng? Basotho ke sechaba se fats’e, se utloahalang se sena kelello hohang. Ha le rata RSA hakale ha le tsamaee keng le ilo lula teng le tla mpe le khotsofale? Ha ke eso bone mohla marokhong a RSA mosotho a haneloang ho feta ha fela a ts’oere passport e molaong. Aku tloheleng hore hloliea ka RSA ena ea lona!!!
Comment by mandoza on 3 May 2012:
@Concerned Citizen, oa bua ntja leha uka thola, hakere eo ho thoeng ke Silky o rata haba ntse ba feta fela Mafeteng mola nako ee kaofela balo utsoetsa batho Bloem hoba ke moo ba fumanang sa ho ja, haba robale Mafeteng mono ba nyolosa ba theosa haba na le chelete tsa ho nka lipasa, sheba Silky tloho MSU ke tlo u etsetsa pasa u tlohele hoba mohaung oa hoea naheng tsa batho fela, ke eng e betere ele e batlang RSA, hakre ntse le re Metsing a buse joale letlo mo siea le mang, zoka hle uena ntse ke bona u le sokolara.
Ha feela Lesotho le ntse le busoa ke likhukhuni tse neng lithusa maburu hohlasela maANC ka 80,s mona lesotho lebalang.
Hore na Lesotho le busoa ke likhukhuni hakae hase moo taba eleng teng. Taba kea hore ma-ANC ana ao re neng rea thuse raa amohela Lesotho haba balehaka maburu ka sepolo, ha a eso re koalle maliboho le ka letsatsi. Ke ka hona ke makalang hore na basotho bana ba ikemeng lepaketla ka free movement ebe ba batlang hobane rea ts’ela rea linaheng tsohle tsa lefats’e moo re ratang. Ba tsietsing ea RSA ke batho ba ts’elelang hoea etsa bokoeta RSA, joale ba batla free movement hore ba tsebe ho iketsetsa borata naheng e ‘ngoe. Ke kene likolo tsa thuto e phahameng kamoo ke ratang RSA ho fihlela ke qetile joalofela ka ma-ANC hare kene likolo le bona kamoo ba ratang Lesotho mona. Ebe freedom basotho ba batla e joang banna? Ea hore likoeta tsa basotho li lumelloe ebe li ntse li patela baahi ba Bloemfontein joalokaha ba ntse ba etsa koa Bloem? Ha ke nahane likoeta li na le litokelo hohang kannete!!!
Comment by Bahabile-Kae on 3 May 2012:
Ho moeta-pele ea na ng le chebelo pele,
taba ea ho ba le likamano tse mofuthu paketsang tsa hae
Le bahaisane ke ntho e pele e bohlokoa,joale banna bana
Ba libuoa feela ba sa liphethahatse!!! Ke se ke itse tsamaeang
ka moo lenehiloe ka teng ha ele hore nka lumela ka kholoa taba
tsa lona cheee!!! Ha ke ngoana lona nna!!! Feela likhethong ke
Comment by Terateng on 3 May 2012:
Next time ha liholiday tsa keresemese le tsa paseka li fihla pheletsong, o ee marokhong kaofela o tla bona batho ba entse mekoloko ba ea RSA, o tlo eme teng o ba botse na ke’ng ntho eo ba e batlang RSA o tla fumana karabo. Ebile kea tseba ho na le baheno motseng ba ntseng ba etsa joalo ba ea ba khutla, o ko ba botse se ka nna oa itshenya hlooho ka ho botsa rona re ntse re lutse mona Lesotho.
@ Concerned Citizen. Comments tsa hao ha li monate u
bua eka ke mohlolo Lesotho ha le ka kopana le South
Africa ea e ba naha e le ngoe.
Khale-khale pakeng tsa selemo sa 1868 le 1884 Queen
Victoria oa England ea ile a kopua ke Morena Moshoeshoe 1
hore a mo thuse ho laola Lesotho le Basotho, ka 1871 hang
ka mor’a lefu la Morena Moshoeshoe 1 ka 1870, o ile a kopa
mmuso oa Kapa koloni hore o mo thuse ka Lesotho le busoe
Joale uena Concerned Citizen u nahana hore u mang u ka
busang Lesotho le hlotse makhooa.
Bothata ba hore ebe Lesotho le ile la tsoa Koloni, e bile
hobane palamenteng Basotho ba ne ba sena moemeli.
Morena Letsie 1 le marena ba se khotsofalle taba ea ho hloka
moemeli ka palamenteng ba ints’a ho bona.
Merabe e robong kaofela haesale e loanela taba ea hore
haena moelli palamenting ho fihlela ho ts’oaroa ba bang
ka 1963. Ho tloha 1994 palament e na le merabe e leshome
le motso o mong, so hase bothata hore Lesotho ebe
karolo ea Republic ofSouth Africa ka botlalo.
U SE ROHAKANE OA TS’OSA KAPA HONA HO THETSA BASOTHO
HOBANE O RE U RUTEHILE.
Comment by Jomalet on 3 May 2012:
Ke hopola monna oa nete molapo qobela a botsa ntate mandela hore lesotho le fella kae,bona hle metsing leile la lebala hore ka 1986 and 1990 mandate oa BCP kE HORE NAHA EA FREE STATE E KHUTLELE LÉSOTHO!basotho dont nèed passports to go rsa
Comment by Pitso on 3 May 2012:
who are you fooling besides yourselves?
some pple in lesotho have been privilaged. they have been given the jobs by the use of nepotism. so, they have build some kind of conservatism. they do not want others to get jobs in south africa. They know that if one needs to control others one needs to see to it that they are hungry. The current PM has south african identity document while its against lesotho constitution. The same guy wants basotho to obey and be respect the rule of law but how about him. some pple do argue that it is not important for
Comment by monna thaba on 4 May 2012:
HE BORALIOPOLOTIKI BA BUA, ENE BA BUA NTHO TSA BOHLOKOA KA HOFELA EMPA BA NKHATHATSA MATLA KA HORE HA BA PHETHISI TSEO BA LI BUILENG BATHONG KE KA HONA RE SATLO BA TSEPA, EMPA NNA KE ILO KHETHA DC HA EKA MPHOQA E TLA LOKELA KE HO LEBALA KA VOTE YA KA NAKONG E TLANG
Comment by Concerned citizen on 4 May 2012:
@Bahabile-kae, Ke utloa u bua ka hore Lesotho le hlotse makhooa ka puso blah blah, joale hana kajeno South Africa eo ea hau e busoa ke makhooa na? Bo Mandela, Mbeki, Zuma ke makhooa bona? Hana bona ba e tseba haholo puso? Ba se ba nts’itse their own black people bofumeng joalokaha ba ba khethile? Ebe ha ANC e itlhotse, ho tletse likarohano joalo kahara bona, ebe hana joale mathata a Lesotho ba ka a rarolla ele bo mang bona fela bona ka bo bona ba itlhotse? Lesotho mona hase moo ho bapalloang teng ke matlolaterata hleng. Lesotho le tla nkoa ke RSA re shoele ho setse ho busa ‘the lost generation’ feela. Ke sephoqo feela seka batlang ho nkoa ke lelapa la monna e mong ea ntseng a hlotsoe ke mathata a lelapa la hae. Ha hona moo thuto eaka e kenang teng mona, ha ke eso u hanele ho ruteha, ha ke eso fase booko ba hau ka lerapo hore u se rutehe. Tlohela ho bua ntho tseo u sa li tsebeng!!!
@ Johannes, ke arabile uena eseng Bahabile kae. Nts’oarele ngoaneso Bahabilekae. Ke typing error. Ke arabetse enoa ea ipitsang Johannes ea inyonyang hore ebe ke mosotho oa Lesotho. Ha!ha!ha! o lakatsa hoba mosotho oa South Africa. Ao! sono, ka bomalimabe motho haa tsoale habeli hle johannes. U tsoetsoe u le mosotho oa Lesotho, u tlabe u shoe u le mosotho oa Lesotho!!!
@Jomalet, hee, le ithatisa RSA hle basotho. Ao! le llela lebese le qhalaneng basotho. Ha leaka la tseka Free state pele maburu a e aha hakale molato? Ebe le bona eka maburu a tla le neha bo Bloemfontein, Bethlehem, Sasolburg, Welkom, le Kroonstad, kaha litoropo tseo ke tse fetang Maseru hole in terms of development and infrastructure? Maseru ha e le hafong fela ea litoropo tseno ka ntlafatso. Aku tloheleng ho iphoqa hleng, hase ntho’e ka etsahalang eno. South Africa e ntse ele tlasa taolo e matla ea maburu, tlasa puso ena ea ANC. ANC e laeloa kahohle ke maburu, ke ka hona le melao e mengata ea maburu e ntseng e sebetsa le hajoale. Che, haeba ANC e ile ea le ts’episa ho le khutlisetsa Free State ha e busa RSA, ene ele phoqa feela, le bona ba ntse ba busoa ke makhooa ka kotloloho, ha ba na matla a feletseng joalokaha le nahana. Ha!ha!ha! O na cho Pik Botha speeching sa hae hore kaffir e keke ea ipusa le khale, ‘me ke ‘nete taba eo le kajeno. RSA e ntse e busoa ke maburu joalokaha economy e ntse e laoloa ke bona ka botlalo!!!
Comment by Johannes on 4 May 2012:
@ Jomalet u se ke be oa nyahamisoa ke sekoeta sena se ipitsang
Concerned Citizen, ha ‘na le uena re sebetsa ka thata eena o
a tseba hore o ja ka bobolu.
Khoebo ea hae ea ho hoeba ka matekoana e ka fela, M-Nigeria le
maforeigna a mang a fosahetseng aka se kene Lesotho, o tla ja kae?
o a ipotsa. Taba ea hore Lesotho le ka kopana le RSA e bonoe
ke machaba a kopaneng a Africa, Lpcm, le LHC Pretoria.
@Concerned Citizen, ho ithuta haka ke ne nke ke ka thebeloa ke
uena, Jy’ s fukol, ‘na ha ke criminal joalo ka uena, ke a sebetsa
Africa Boroa, I’M A SECURITY SUPERVISOR, I ‘M AGAINST THE
ACTIONS OF CRIMINALS. Ke ka moo ke sebelisang thuto ea ka
@ Mandoza u tlama Silky ka lintho lisele, Silky hase senokoane
Bloemfontein, haho le joalo habaneng ha ba tla hore Lesotho
le kopane le Afrika Boroa? o tla ba ipata kae ka mor’a crime?
CONCERNED CITIZEN AND YOU ARE USING LESOTHO AND
SOUTH AFRICA FOR CRIME. In Lesotho, you can kill, steal and hide is South Africa, even
while in South Africa you do the same. I pray one day you
cry behind bars.
I am not ashemed to be Lesotho citizen but I’m crying like
Almighty King Moshoeshoe 1.
Joale hoba le-securityana la South Africa ho nkama kae na criminal e ipitsang le-security? Ho sebetsa RSA ho nkama kae ‘na hobane ha ho letho leo ke le hlokang ho uena le ho sebetsa naheng eo? Kapa u nahana hore u phahametse basotho ha u sebetsa RSA eo ea hau? U sebeletsa uena, ha u sebeletse rona, etsoe ha ho letho leo re ka le kopang ho uena, hona ha u ena le eng e betere uena? Ke mokhoa lona ha le sebetsa mabekeleng RSA mono, eba le tla potela batho kaha le bona eka le phahametse basotho bohle. Ke kholoa hore u sebetsa li-drugs le makoerekoere South Africa mono joalokaha le ntse le etsa basotho ba lulang mekh’ukh’ung South Africa. Le rata hore hloliea, fela u fumane hore le phela lits’ileng tseo ereng leha taxi ele isa bosiu mona ebe le ts’aba le ho kena mekh’ukh’ung eno ea lona e mafome. Haeba lere la ruile ha lele naheng eo, keng ha ebesale le re hloliea ka hore Lesotho le nkoe ke RSA eo ea lona? Kapa le batla hore re ts’oaneng le lona re phele mekh’ukh’ung le rona joaloka lona? Kapa le batla hore re ilo lula li-flateng tsa bo R6 000, R9 000 tsa li-4 roomed, re phela ka ho ja spykoos joaloka lona, kapa re lule re ipolaisa bohobe bo omeletseng ba lishopong ka mahe tsatsi le leng le le leng joaloka lona, ka baka la bophelo bo turu ba RSA? South Africa re lutse hleng basotho ba hiriloeng naheng eo, bophelo ba teng rea bo tseba, le keke la re thetsa, le thetse ba thetsehileng. Ehlile u ea bolela Johannes ha u re u criminal ea le-security. U e mong ea eeng a tipeloe ke SAP ka borokhong ka mona ele hobane u lutse RSA illegally, ke ka hona u leng mohaung oa hore South Africa eo ea hau e nke Lesotho. South Africa ke naha e reng likoeta li na le litokelo, ke ka hona criminal tse kang uena li tlohileng Lesotho mona ho balehela RSA moo ba etsang bokoeta freely, ba nts’oa ka bail teronkong joaloka uena. Ke ka hona u leng monahano o shallow tjena!!!
Comment by Jomalet on 4 May 2012:
Wena ea ipitsang concerned citizen o very ignorant and selfish,lesotho le fella lekoa and muso oa lesotho o na le lirights tsa ho claima seo:le ntsu moo a leng teng o tseba taba eo ,lesotho le tsoanela ho challenga sa, we dont care a ka litoropo tse fetang maseru,bana ba basotho must know it ,haeba ba teng ba nkileng tjotjo hore ba tlolise taba ena mahlo ba tsoanela ho tsejoa
Comment by Organic on 4 May 2012:
@Concerned Citizen. U tlameha u phela ha monate uena. Kea kholoa le ba na ba entseng Lesotho ha habo lona ka bobolu.
Comment by thando on 5 May 2012:
Tabeng ya dual citizenship haele kgale hakana ho bua ka yona ne ntse le emetse ho tla camfasa ka yona ha dikhetho di atamela….? Cheheeeeee lea tseba dirty game hle. Haele mccd yena ha a ka tlohele meharo, Direct Corruption (DC) has many criminals who can lead it. Helele Maleqetsa….
Comment by Johannes on 5 May 2012:
Lona bohle le sa lumellane le Concerned Citizen ke a le leboha
ka kutloisiso ea lona. @Concerned Citizen u a ‘makatsa ha u re ke nahana hore ke
khalala kapa ho phahamela basotho hobane ke sebetsa RSA.
Ha ke tsoaloa ka 1976 makholo-kholo a basotho ke fumane
ba sebetsa RSA.
Ke tsoetsoe ‘me ka holisoa ke basotho ha ho ka moo nka ba
phahamelang kapa ka ba hlalefela.
Uena u nka hore re rekisa naha ea basotho empa chehe, re futsitse
Ka selemo sa 1851 Morena Moshoeshoe 1 le lebotho la hae ba ile
ba bolaisa Mabritish lebetlela Ka mor’a hore Major Warden a fe
maburu lefatse la hae (Free State) ka 1849.
Bosholu ba likhomo Bloemfontein bo qalile ka 1854, ka 1858
Moshoeshoe 1 a hlasela maburu ka lebetlela atseka
Free state, hoo manyesemane a ileng a phallela maburu ka lithunya.
Ka 1868 Morena Moshoeshoe a bona hore a ka se khone ho loana
le maburu a hlometse eena a sa hlomela ka libetsa, a kopa hore
Manyesemane (British) a sireletse basotho.
Ka 1869 meeli e mecha ea sehoa pakeng tsa basotho le maburu
‘me Morena Moshoeshoe 1 ha ka thaba ka mor’a ho tekenoa ha
UENA U MANG CONCERNED CITIZEN ? Morena Moshoeshoe 1 ke
motho oa pele oa ho claima Free State!
Ka 1871 ka mor’a lefu la Morena Moshoeshoe 1, 1870, Queen Victoria,
joalo ka ha e ne ele eena a neng a busa Lesotho ka nako eo, a
kopa hore Lesotho le atolosoe lebusoe Kapa koloni.
UENA U MANG CONCERNED CITIZEN? Queen Victoria ke motho oa
bobeli oa ho ipiletsa.
Tsa khale ha ke tsoe ho tsona.
Ka 2010 LESOTHO PEOPLE’S CHARTER MOVEMENT, ba ipiletsa ka
taba ena, ba ipapisitse le moruo oa Lesotho. Lemong se fetileng LESOTHO HIGH COMMISSIONER RSA, a ipiletsa
ka eona taba ena a ipapisitse le maphelo a basotho ba phelang
CONCERNED CITIZEN LE UENA NTJOETSE HORE NA HO U RE KOBELLA
LITHABENG MOO U ETSISA MANG, o tla be u utloisise
Comment by Thabo on 6 May 2012:
If people can mover freely to S Africa means they will go to work that side. Maybe half of Lesotho people would disapaear! Then how LRA can tax people? Government personnel will be paid half only.
Ntate Metsing you sure you need only half pay?!
Comment by Johannes on 6 May 2012:
Don’t worry yourself about that matter sir!
The unification of Lesotho and South Africa is the
unification of LRA and SARS.
Comment by yoko ya poli on 7 May 2012:
Concerned citizen on( wena u kena skolo kae hantle,batsoali ba hau basebetsa kae bana beno bona?wa pota ke u joetse nxa motho abua masepa banna,hona u kene skolo
Comment by Lobengula on 8 May 2012:
We are all missing the point here; including the honourable leader Mr Metsing. I work in South Africa and to my knowledge; anyone who has a valid passport to enter South Africa is given access. If you have the qualifications for a job and it is proven you are the best for the job, you get it. If the you have the required capital to start a business in South Africa and meet the requirements of tax and licenses you will get a permit. The problem is on the Lesotho side where it takes ages to get a passport and corruption where passports are issues fraudlently to foreigners.
Let me make it clear that we live in a global village and we are free to work anywhere or study anywhere we want; but we have to meet the legal requirements of those countries we are residing in. Also the more Basotho work outside our borders, the more REMITTANCES to our country and the quality of life of our parents and siblings improves, together with the economy of Lesotho because the money we send is spend in the country.
GIVE BASOTHO PASSPORTS IN TIME AND STOP CORRUPTION IN THE HOME AFFAIRS. SOUTH AFRICA HAS NO PROBLEM WITH BASOTHO COMING TO WORK AND DO BUSINESS IN THEIR COUNTRY.
Comment by Concerned Citizen on 9 May 2012:
@Johannes, ao! mosotho oa heso, ka lehlohonolo history ea Lesotho eona kea e tseba hobane ke e entse likolong Lesotho mona, empa le teng nkeke ka ithetsa ka ntho’e sieo e bileng e kekeng ea etsahala le teng. Haeba Free State e ile ea hlola Moshoeshoe 1 a e tseka, ebe joale uena u nahana hore u mang kajeno, ea bileng a e tsekang e se e ntlafalitsoe hakale ke tsona lira tseo tsa rona? Compara Maseru le Bloemfontein. Maseru e joang, e kena hakae ho Bloemfontein? E kae infrastructure Maseru? Ntle le haeba le tlare ba lihe meaho eohle e teng Free state hore joale ba tsebe ho le fa land e free ea lona hee.
Joale na oa bona hore le eena Moshoeshoe o ile a nna a ba selehe kae kae nakong eo, haeba ekare Major Warden oa lenyesemane a nkile naha ea Lesotho a e fa maburu, ebe joale le eena Moshoeshoe o qetella a kopa mohau oa ts’ireletso ho lira tsa Lesotho eleng Britain, eo e leng eona naha e fileng maburu lithunya hore ba loants’e basotho tsekong ea naha? Ho khutla hoa naha hase ntho’e ts’oanang leha uena u ntse u ngoal interneteng mona. Ha le batla ho sebetsa South Africa basotho, e eang teng ka litsela tsa molao. RSA e na le embassy Maseru mona, kopang workpermit ‘me ba tla le fa ha le e qualifyela. Bothata ba basotho ke hobane ba rata lintho tsa li-back door, lintho tsa botsotsi hobane haba batle ho patala. Haba batle ho kopa work permit hobane e ea patalloa. Ma-South Africa a mangata a sebetsang Lesotho, a sebetsang ka li-work permit. Joale hobaneng lona basotho le nahana hore le ka sebetsa RSA fela tjee ntle le work permit? Leha u ilo etsa business RSA u tlameha ho ea SA embassy Maseru mona u kope business permit, tlohelang ho lula linaheng tsa batho ba bang feela ntle le molao. Ehlile teng ba tla le nka ba tlilo le tipela ka borokhong ka mona, lea tena. ‘Na nkeke ka hlotse ke utloela basotho ba ikentseng litlokotsebe tse ikelang RSA fela ba sa kope work permit. Le mosali ea sebetsang malapeng o tlameha ho kopa work permit. Hase naha ea lona eno, le re tellisa ka ma-South Africa ana basotho ba stubborn hleng. Ma-south Africa a entse li-business Lesotho, ‘me ha ho kamoo ba ka hanelang basotho ho bula any business in South Africa ha fela ba tsamaile ka methati ea molao. Tlohellang bo-stubborn basotho linaheng tsa batho. U keke oa lumelloa ho lula naheng e ‘ngoe illegally. Ke ntse ke lutse RSA mona 5 years, ha ho esobe le ka mohla ke manakisoang hobane ke ne ke ile lula teng ka molao. Joale basotho ba lulang illegally RSA ba batla ho kholisa basotho ba setseng Lesotho hore RSA e nyonya basotho empa ele bona basotho ba eang naheng ka paqama gate, teng ba tla u thotha ka teraka ba tlo u tipela marokhong mona. Lea iphoqa!!!
Ha hona mohla Lesotho e tlaba karolo ea South Africa leha tonki e ka tsoala motho. Ha rena le thahasello ea hore re isoe naheng eno hohang. Haeba hee Lesotho mona re lapile haholo ho feta ma-South Africa a lulang mekh’ukh’ung e mafome, re se re itse ho lokile re tla shoella hona teng hobane re tsoaletsoe Lesotho eseng South Africa. Haeba re ja meqomong, ho betere hore re je meqomong ea Lesotho eo re e tloaetseng empa eseng meqomong ea South Africa eo re sa e tsebeng, eo re sa e tloaelang. Hare shoa ke tlala, re tla shoella Lesotho mona joalofela ka ma-South Africa a lapileng a tla shoella South Africa eseng Lesotho. ‘Na bophelong baka joalokaha ke le ngoana ea tsoang bofutsaneng, ha eso re ha ke ntse ke hola eaba ke utloa ke nyonya batsoali baka hoo nne nka ikopela hore ntate oa morui le ‘m’e oa morui ba nkuke ke ilo phela le bona ke be ngoana bona hobane heso ele bofutsaneng, ebe ke utloa ke lakatsa hoba ngoana barui ke siea batsoali ba ka ba mafutsana. The same thing applies to Lesotho. Ke tsoaletsoe Lesotho, ke mosotho, ha kea tsoalloa South Africa, hake mo-South Africa hohang ebile ha ho le ka mohla nkabang RSA citizen, ebile ha ke lakatse hoba mo-South Africa. Kahoo ka leleme laka, ha ho le ka letsatsi nka reng Lesotho le nkoe ke South Africa hobane e ruile maburu a e ruisitse, ba e ahile bona le ma-America, le ma-Europe. Ho etsa joalo, e kaba thohako ho ‘na, ekaba kea ithohaka, kea itlontlolla, kea inyenyefatsa bophelong ba ka. Che, motho u lula u makalla likelello tsa batho ba bang hore na keng ha li le nyane, li sa nahane ka tsela e nepahetseng. Le hara linaha le haeba nka itella hakalo bophelong, nkeke ka lakatsa hore ke ikopele hoba mo-South Africa hohang. Linaha li teng tseo haeba ke lakatsa tsa batho ba bang, nkareng ke batla ho nkoa ke tsona empa eseng RSA. Ekaba kea itella bophelong baka ruri!!!
@Yoko ea poli, ao! hana ea keneng sekolo ke uena feela ea ntseng a pota a rata ho nkoa ke RSA? Ke betere le haeba ha kea kena sekolo, ha ke eso pote ka hore Lesotho le fuoe South Africa. Ha ke kelello e fats’e hakalo, ha ke nahane joaloka ts’ints’i.
@Lobengula, you are correct, we are free to work anywhere in the world. The only problem with basotho is that they are narrow-minded as they believe they are compelled to work and reside in South Africa only, whilst we are free to relocate to overseas for greener pastures. Even some of South Africans have relocated to overseas saying they earn pittances in South Africa and they are unable to meet their demands. But Lobengula, corruption is everywhere, even South Africa itself has high level of corruption including their identities you it well. Home Affairs officials in Harrison street Joburg are getting arrested most of time in connection with corruption as they fraudulently issue IDs and passports to illegal immigrants. African countires are very corrupt because they are being led by greedy and corrupt politicians and South Africa is not the exception!!!
Comment by Young on 9 May 2012:
@Concerned Citizen…You seem to be not only a concerned citizen, but also a patrotic one. I’d like commend you also on your pride towards your country. I do agree that there should be movement regulation between two independent states. However, I’ll like to bring to your attention that migration happens all the time, everywhere in the world. It is a natural process that does not only affect humans, but other animals and even some plants. Hence it would be beneficial for both countries to have mutual agreement regarding ease of movement while at the same time maintaining border control.
To answer your question on why people like visiting SA; The reasons why people keep visiting SA could be different depending on an individual. But in most cases it is due to needs such as medical facilities, for instant. On the same breath I’d like to ask you the following questions: why did you have to study in SA? What were you doing in SA oena?
My take is that politicians need to stop using border control as their card to be elected. They instead need to first start to work on improving, in terms of service delivery within the country and aslo improve our manufacturing,agriculture and financial sector. There after, we can start talking about relaxing the rules between the borders and hence improving trading of goods and services between the two countries. Otherwise this could be seen as a move to run away from the resposibility of fixing our counrty by simply making it easy for people to leave lesotho for greener pastures in SA.
@Young, If you are so concerned about my studying or residing in RSA some few years ago, it would be more appropriate for you to ask such questions to South Africans what they were doing in our country during apartheid era, why were they studying in our country, why they came to hiding in Lesotho, why they took refuge into Lesotho, why they were working and residing in Lesotho at that time. If you can answer that questions, I will also respond to you maybe. I was asking why basotho always cross into South Africa because most of time they make noise, they always complain about poor services offered by SA immigration office, as if here in Lesotho they do get better services. If you are not patient enough, they ever cross into other people’s countries because they won’t work according to your demands. Basotho want or wish South Africa would give them special attention as if its the only country in Southern Africa that has bordered with South Africa whilst RSA has got so many neighbours surrounding it. Lesotho is not at all special to RSA, don’t fool yourself. Let me tell you, I do visit RSA whenever I want to, as I was doing even during apartheid regime. But whenever I decided to go to RSA, I know I must wait in a queue, I don’t have time to make noise and complain that they mistreat us blah!blah!blah!. So, if you have problems to be in queues, why do you want to cross into RSA if you are so impatient? Because they won’t do what you want, they will work according SA policy and procedure, they cannot follow Lesotho’s procedures or policies. Lesotho is not the only country importing more than 60% of its commodities from South Africa and they can’t treat you differently. Just accept that. They hadn’t close us any borders. I think basotho are arrogant and aggressive. To my knowledge, it is very difficult and challenging to border with a country like Lesotho whose people are so aggressive. Basotho never get satisfied as they are troublemakers. They just need RSA to be ruled by a leader like Zuma who is revengeful and can just make a final decision without anybody’s consent.
I wonder how basotho want RSA to ease the movement between its borders with Lesotho whilst basotho criminals are busy crossing to SA to loot and kill people in that country. Ha!ha!ha! Do you guys think they will agree on that while basotho criminals still continue with their lootings and killings in RSA? Its really ridiculous!!!
@Concerned Citizen…I’m not saying that there shouldn’t be border control. I’m also not suggesting that SA should also be the only participant in ensuring that there’s ease of movement through borders. It should be a bilateral and mutual agreement. You are right in saying that Lesotho has also contributed to this problem. In fact, if South Africans were the ones coming into lesotho more frequently, there would be serious chaos.
Secondly, if you knew your history well, you’d know that Lesotho has always depended way before and ever since our independence, on SA administrative, financial and commercial assistance. But be that as it may, we can still turn things around. But in the meantime we need to forge good relations with SA. Again, still based on history, you cannot compare relations of other countrieds with those between SA & Lesotho. SA ha e soka e hapa naha ea Botswana, Swaziland and Namibia. Again, Basotho ethinicity exist only in SA and Lesotho and consequently some families are scattered between the 2 countries. Feela le teng re se tefe.
Finally, o ikarabile. If you are saying that you studied in SA because ma-SA sought refuge in Lesotho during the apartheid era, what makes you special to an extent that you’d critise some people who have intensions to go to SA le bona ho nts’etsa bophelo ba bona pele joalo ka ha le oena o ile oa nna oa siea likolo Lesotho oa ea maburung. Fact remains…things are not as they used to be at the borders. Motho a hanang ke ea iphapanyelitseng nnete. Moo ke lumellanang le oena ke hore re ithuse re tlohella ho kopa mehau.
Comment by Thulani Francis Dludla-Phole on 15 May 2012:
I have learned quite a lot from the Basotho views, keep it up you are a thoughtful and a wonderful nation. May God bless you. Nna kene ke tsoalloe mane ha matlali. Ke ngoana oa Mmee Mmatholang Phole. In future I shall consider engaging myself fruitfully litabeng tsena. Ke ne ke qala ho libala