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#36897 - 03/23/08 07:35 PM THE REASONS WHY I RESPECT DABENGWA
He led the Zpira intelligence wing at the time of need
2. He is a cool guy and says little
3. He was persecuted by Mugabe together with Lookout Masuku
4. He has defied Mugabe and told the old geezer to fcuk off
5. He is a hero of his own right
6. His defying of Mugabe has exposed the true sell-outs from kwaMthwakazi, if the reports of statements from these former Zipra fellas are true condemning DD
7. He has been honest about how he joined Zanu PF and the fact the Mthwakazi community have approached him several times telling him he is wearing a 'wrong jacket'
8. He has contributed to making Mugabe's powerbase insecure and shaky
9. The reaction from Mthwakazi about how he has been vilified by the sell-outs speaks volumes about his stature
Now, the time I will ever despise Dabengwa will be the time I will have offered tangible services to Mthwakazi. For now his short comings are excusable. This is a man whose parents were shot point blank by the white enemies for his involvement in liberation politics and struggle. Come to think of it, your parents being murdered for your fight for their liberation and freedom? Then come independence, you are jailed by your black brother for having done no wrong. At the end of it all you are condemned by your own and condemned by your enemies. Has DD done the right thing to tell the old goat to fcuk off? Has he been brave enough to do so? Have we done the same as he has done or do we remain engaged in some grand academic eloquent essays criticising him for his actions while we have not done anything for ourselves? The man has a history far better than ours. This is not to say he has not made mistakes. He has but one will excuse him that he needed a rest after all these years of struggle. There is a time in life one has to be with his family and look after his family in peace. I condemn the fact he has ropped himself on Makoni without a clear blue print on the issue of Mthwakazi. But the old geezer has seen enough and the challenge is on us. He can be excused.
Your shouts about DD?
Edited by SINATHAMAHEWU (03/23/08 07:40 PM)
#36898 - 03/23/08 08:29 PM Re: THE REASONS WHY I RESPECT DABENGWA [Re: SINATHAMAHEWU]
mfowethu ngiyabingelela, USAPHILA UmTHWAKAZI KODWA? phila Mthwakazi omuhle, thina sisaphila. usho kahle impela. izwakele indaba yakho.we should not vilify the guy. he is not a bad guy at all. we thina bakaMthwkazi siyahlonipha abadala. asimhlonipheni uwenzile umsebenzi wakhe, thina ngempela senzeni? thina abasha senzeni? ngiyabonga. what do you think is the way forward mfethu? peacefull talk or take them at their own game? salakahle Mthwakazi.
#36899 - 03/23/08 09:19 PM Re: THE REASONS WHY I RESPECT DABENGWA [Re: duze]
Angilitholi kahle bafowethu.What is your point ngaluNdoda uDD. I dont think there was ever an issue about respecting anyone and for that matter uDD. Is anyone asking him to do anything for us? We know he has been at the table feeding with zanu for whatever reasons and now he is with Makoni, an arrangement which we dont understand yet. So what are you really saying, am I missing a point somewhere?
#36900 - 03/23/08 10:38 PM Re: THE REASONS WHY I RESPECT DABENGWA [Re: MTHWENTWEHLABA1]
mfowethu ngiyakubingelela. cha mfethu, mina bengiqonde ukuthi lendoda mayiyekwe. singayigxeki. siyihloniphe ngoba phela isikhulile. akusekho engakwenza thina okungasehlula. asenzeni thina singabheki amakhehla. ngiyabonga mfeyhu salakahle.
#36901 - 03/24/08 07:11 AM Re: THE REASONS WHY I RESPECT DABENGWA [Re: duze]
udabengwa ngumthengisi omkhulu kakhulu, akumelanga simhloniphi, uyehlulekile yena ukuzihlonipha ngokujoyina uMakoni. ukujoyina iZANU besingamxolela ngoba abantu bakithi babesifa bebulawa yigukurahundi. Abantu bakithi were expecting ukuthi uDabengwa one uzophuma kuZANU akhokhele isizwe sikaMthwakazi. Akekho umkhokheli abantu akade bethembele kuye njengoDabengwa, manje okungamaShona kuyavuma ukuthi sekusehlule, nangu umuntu ongangoDabengwa esesiyazenza umfazi kaMakoni. uDabengwa dini lo ubulala isizwe sikaMthwakazi. uletha ipolitics embi kakhulu. uDabengwa lowu kumele simzonde ngenhliziyo zethu zonke uma kudingakala simzonde langezingqamu lemikhonto yethu. akasakufanelanga ukubizwa ngoMthwakazi.
#36902 - 03/24/08 08:14 AM Re: THE REASONS WHY I RESPECT DABENGWA [Re: Mthakathi27]
NGIYALIBINGELELA BANTWANA BENKOSI
Bengicela ukuthi singayikhulumeli phambilini lindaba kaDD. Thina okwamanje asifezeni inkululeko. At the same time simnikeze ithuba uDD azikhulumele yena ayikho. Ma engasakwanisi uzazitsholo yena. Ma elokhu ekuzanu kuzaphumela egcekeni kodwa. Qotho, makangahlanjazwa. Let us conduct our business according to the "similitude of the palace" njenga bantwana benkosi, especially now that we do not yet know much about his case concerning isituation kaMthwakazi. There is no way Makoni could lead DD in anything , this all just too funny a move. Kukhona okukhona. Okwamanje mina ngokwami for now I will hold my peace concerning this man. Its a matter of a coin that could fall on either side.
Edited by MTHWENTWEHLABA1 (03/24/08 08:17 AM)
#36903 - 03/24/08 09:40 AM Re: THE REASONS WHY I RESPECT DABENGWA [Re: MTHWENTWEHLABA1]
akukho okukhona, udabengwa dini yisehluleki. umthengisi wokucina. uEnos ungcono kolodabengwa ndini lowu. nangu uEnos sekuPUMA, uDabengwa wehlulwa yini ukungena kuMPC?
#36904 - 03/24/08 09:48 AM Re: THE REASONS WHY I RESPECT DABENGWA [Re: MTHWENTWEHLABA1]
Dabengwa said: ?Hayi baba Mugabe, siyakuhlonipha jah?elidala. Usebenzile, siyakubonga konke osenzele khona eZimbabwe.
?Okwanamhlanje mhlaka 29 March sithi hayi akumeceleni ukuphumule. Nanti ijaha esesithe lizathatha amanyathela akho liwagqoke. (We respect you Mugabe, you have played your part, step aside and rest. Here is the youngman (Makoni) who will step into your shoes).?
However, Dabengwa said he would not push for a Mugabe trial ?because he entered into a truce with Joshua Nkomo?.
Dabengwa said: ?When I first worked with him, he would be punctual to appointments. He would pay attention to detail and would discuss things for over an hour or two. We used to hold very intelligent discussions with him giving me his piece of mind and I would come out of his office satisfied.
?But as time moved on, the man would start missing appointments. Sometimes only making himself available for around 10 or 20 minutes when the issues needed more time. Sometimes he would just lose concentration during a serious meeting.?
Dabengwa, speaking to reporters at a press club in Harare on Wednesday night, said he had discovered that ?the law of diminishing returns? was now affecting Mugabe?s way of discharging his duties.
FROM THIS LAST QUOTE TO ME IT CLEARLY SHOWS THAT WHILE DD WAS STILL WITH ZANU HE ADMIRED MUGABE, HE WORSHIPED HIM.
WHY JOIN MAKONI WHO SEEM NOT TO HAVE ANY VISION FOR US. LOOK AT IT MAKONI'S GOVT WILL BE FORMED AROUND ZANU BECAUSE MAKONI IS AN INDEPENDENT AND DOES NOT HAVE A POLITICAL PARTY. YINDABA BEFUNA UKUSIDLALA NGESAYIKHOLOJI
#36905 - 03/24/08 10:33 AM Re: THE REASONS WHY I RESPECT DABENGWA [Re: abafokazi]
mfowethu ngiyakubingelela. cha mfethu lendoda kusho ukuthi awuyithandi ngempela. kodwa phela ngendlela oyibeka ngakhona ngempela nami kuthi mangimzonde.uthi lemurderer elishona lakwamugabe wayehlala nayo phansi baxoxe aze azizwe anelisekile. yini nje leyo enganelisa umuntu ngomugabe? the guy is a child murderer full stop. all he ever done was to kill 50000+ defenceless Ndebeles.leshona leli lizothethwa icala lalo uyathanda noma engathandi uDD.i cant understand umuntu othi umgabe is inteligent.where is the proof of that. he is a leader of faillures, does that make him intelligent. maybe shona style. but to us to be a leader for 30 years and all you ever done was to kill innocent people just because they dont like you,thrash the once bread busket of Africa to a barren hopless mess and you call that intelligent? shona style maybe. of all the shonas he is the only intelligent one.otherwise why rule for 30years? no other shona is intelligent than him?
#36906 - 03/24/08 11:24 AM Re: THE REASONS WHY I RESPECT DABENGWA [Re: Mthakathi27]
mfowethu ngiyakubingelela. cha uyibekile. thina singuMthwakazi siziqenya ngakho lokhu ukuthi iqiniso siyalivuma yize libaba.amafacts akho are there akekho ongawaphika mfethu. kunjengoba ushilo Mthwakazi omuhle.mina ngithi okungamashona kungafisa ukuthi kuthi sokusehlule, kodwa yizifiso nje lezo.for 30 years the Ndebele has refused to vote for the shona. fact. now we are coming together as Mthwakazi.we are starting all over again only now we want to die.we need funds ,we need to have an account where we can depposit money to be used for our cause. ....
okwamanje siyaphele nge grand plan yamashona akungcono sife sizamile? the whites should be roped in our fight because they are being killed as well. all they have worked for has been stolen by the shona all because of their skin colour. fact.its a joke. the white man was racist we fought him.fine .today the shona is blatantly racist, why can we not fight him together with whites? we never hated the white man for his skin colour. the trueth is the whites built verything you see in that country.towns,schools, roads,everything. fact.all the shona ever did was to change names so it looks like they built them. changing a road name to mugabeway.why? build a road and name it mugabeway shonandini. how can you be so shallow.
Edited by Sibalukhulu (03/24/08 11:34 AM)