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Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2018 03:52 pm
Joined: Tue Aug 7th, 2007
Equipment: Shimano LTB gear
Best Catch: All
Favorite Fishing Spot: Not found yet
Boat: AceCraft twin 70hp evinrudes and Stingray duck with 90 Yammie
Hugo, is die tank nie dalk te ver agtertoe nie, onthou jou gewig verspryding saam met die 200hp?
Posted: Sun Apr 22nd, 2018 09:33 am
Joined: Sun Jan 10th, 2010
Location: Mosselbaai / Qatar
Equipment: Kingfisher; Blue Marlin; Mustad; Daiwa; Okumo
Best Catch: 30kg yellow fin Tuna
Favorite Fishing Spot: Any place where there is water
In die werled van DIY is manne wat wil, manne wat kan en manne wat dink hulle kan, maar wat ek hier sien gebeur is ek van mening dat die Timmy man MAG! En as 'n projek span saam is julle verseker aan die wen kant.
Twee keer die werke ook aangevat, een slag net dek en oor spray en ander keer transom en dek, daai slag amper my regter hand se pinkie afgesny in my pogings om die gemors foam wat gebruik was vir flotasie uit te kry. Julle doen 'n goeie werk.
Posted: Mon Apr 23rd, 2018 07:02 pm
Equipment: 2 X Shimano nexave 6ft with Shimano Sienna 2500
Best Catch: A lot but nothing massive
Favorite Fishing Spot: Gamtoos pappie!!!
Boat: Interceptor 186 200 vmax, Intermax
Nee hys fine daar vir a paar redes. Die tank was altyd onder die splashwell vasgemaak het hy het niks crap gemaak daar nie so hy is nou heelwat vorentoe van wat hy was.
Die tank was altyd op die deck vasgemaak en nou gaan hy onder die vloer ook sowel as ek maak daai tank nooit meer vol as se 40-50L nie, so dit gaan in teen deel beter wees nou alhoewel die ou placement fine gewerk het.
JFE dankie ek dra dit net so aan hom oor, hy het al baie meer op my boot gedoen as op sy eie boot en elke keer is die eind produk puik.
Daar is nog baie wat kom op die projek so hou dit dop ek sal die updates stuur.
Thanks vir die komplimente!
The 2 small stringers have now been set, the new ones measured, cut and resined as well as the floor cleaned so next was attaching them with resin initially and left to set overnight.
Here is the finished product with the stringers receiving 1 coat of fiber glass, left overnight to dry with another coat the next day:
There is some open space in front of the tank that we dont want to waist, a deck plank will be resined and fibered into the hull in front of the tank and a inspection hatch will be added for under floor storage.
So after that, planning when into the mounting of the bracket for the bilge pump as well as the securing posts to hold the tank as well as the under floor planning for the plumbing and wiring.
So a wooden bracket will hold the bilge pump in place with an inspection hatch at the back to have access to it, we will also have an inspection hatch above the gauge pickup for the tank to have access to it.
In the pictures below also visible are the pipes that will house the outlet for the bilge pump.
Next was the the hole for the hull drain plug, have to admit this was cut very fine and almost drilled to low or at least slightly lower then planned but it is well secured and fitted so it wont be any threat to any intrusion.
The new drain hole was cut at a downward angle and then filled with a stainless sleeve and then sealed and fitted into the transom.
The boat does not breach at all so there is no real opportunity for the sleeve to be jeopardized at all.
Posted: Mon Apr 23rd, 2018 07:27 pm
Shoe!, baie naby op die darin plug! dit gaan nie werk nie, jy het dit nog nir op dir trailer getoets nie, maak dit nou reg Hugo, jy gaan moeilikheid hiermee optel in die sand, en trailor. Vergeet hom eenkeer en jy beskadig alles wat jy nou gedoen het! Skies, dit bly jou keuse, maar ek sal dit nie so wou hê nie.
Dan het jy dreinering pype ingesit vanaf jou Cabin na agter waar jy jou bilch pump inkom? maak plan, Cabins soek twee van die pompe wat jou trappi in die cabin is te hoog en die water kan nie uitkom nie eg 300kg dead weight.
Hugo, ek probeer positiewe raad gee, dis dit.
Posted: Mon Apr 23rd, 2018 09:11 pm
veselglas en plastiek delamineer baie maklik.
dit sou dalk n moerse schlep gewees het on die plastiek pyp met vessel glas te line het "soos n efel"
dan die pyp in vas vessel glas.
ek weet jy het gese dat boot net op rivier is, maar sso Rian se raad, enige stampie daar en hy gaan lek.
Posted: Tue Apr 24th, 2018 11:19 am
Shoe!, baie naby op die darin plug! dit gaan nie werk nie, jy het dit nog nir op dir trailer getoets nie, maak dit nou reg Hugo, jy gaan moeilikheid hiermee optel in die sand, en trailor.
Rian, thanks vir jou input. Wat bedoel jy met die train plug wat met die trailer getoets moet word? Die naaste wat die drain plug aan die trailor kom is omtrent 300mm van die dwarspyp af wat vir die transom saver gemaak is wat ook removable is.
Verder as dit kom hy nie enigsins in kontak met die trailor nie.
Vergeet hom eenkeer en jy beskadig alles wat jy nou gedoen het
Ook met die sand wat jy noem, bedoel jy as hy in kontak kom met sand of as as die boot op die sand staan?
Dan het jy dreinering pype ingesit vanaf jou Cabin na agter waar jy jou bilch pump inkom?
Daar is spasie onder die support stringer by die console waar water kan vloei na agter toe, dis net nie so visible op die fotos nie
Ek het a bilge pomp op my vloer gehaad voor ons die begin het, in 7 jaar het die pomp een keer water uitgetap, dit was omdat die boot buite gestaan het met sy seil op, maar was nie opgejack nie so die hele cabin vloer was vol water, na dit het ek nog nooit weer daai pomp aangesit nie so ek het hom uitgehaal en gaan hom nie weer terug sit nie.
In April 2015 toe daai donkermaan spring gamtoos gestrike het en ek op die rivier was het ek hom ook nie nodig gehaad nie, my deck onder was vol water en a paar bote het gesink daai aand maar ek het niks water op my vloer gehaad nie.
As die boot gebruik word launch ons en haal uit na elke trip, en dan gaan staan die boot in a garage, so die boot bly glad nie in die water nie.
willem wikkel spies wrote:
Ons breach ook nie so die naaste wat die boot kontak gaan kry met sand of modder of enige digte oppervlakte is wanneer hy op die trailor gaan en dan is die kontak minimaal en meer op die keel want daar is geen rollers nie maar net guide pype.
Thanks, wat is die voordeel van die method, gaan die pyp delaminate daar waar hy is as hy Sondor foam om hom het? Thanks vir die input, ek try maar net uitvind watse geleentheid dit gaan he om te delaminate daar?
Die idee kom van wat ek gesien het die Yanks doen, ek het a paar fotos hieronder gepost van waar die idee vandaan kom:
Posted: Tue Apr 24th, 2018 01:01 pm
Binne die hull is nie die problem nie.
dis wanneer so pyp duer die hull na buite gaan op n bung!
onthou net, sondor foam word nie deur jouself gecast nie.
jy koop dit in bloke aan.
so as jy sondor gaan behoort die drain plug ok te wees.
wanneer jy rx121 of n 2 part foam gaan, wil jy geen water in he nie. ook nie n drain plug nie, want met n 2x part foam will jy geen water in kry nie.
met sondor kan jy water in kry en dan moet jy n drain plug he.
met sondor weet jy wanneer daar problem op n hull is.
met 2x part foam weet jy dit nie
Last edited on Tue Apr 24th, 2018 01:03 pm by willem wikkel spies
Posted: Thu Apr 26th, 2018 04:38 pm
The stringers all received their second coat of fiber and after that it was getting the box made for underfloor storage that will be accessible through the inspection hatch.
The box is quite big at about 560mm by 900mm, closest and most practical hatch I could find matching quality and price was a 300mm by 720mm made by Bomar.
The support piece by the cabin step is also now fitted:
The door and its track also came out, the wood on the door will be repaired as some of it is loose, would be ideal to match the wood of the cabin door with the wooden railings as the wood of the door is a much darker color but Timmy will do his best to match it.
Dewald is busy with the 3 relays to fit to the push button switches for the stereo, the amp and the bilge pump.
We are discussing some of the color ideas and all though this is probably no ones cup of tea, I want to go for a sea foam green, the idea once again comes from all the offshore boats that i have seen.
The striking thing about this color is that no picture does it justice and it looks a hell of a lot better in real life, one just has to find the right color.
Some of the examples I found below:
My favorite color at this stage is the one below, we are planning on going with the design almost exactly the same.
The 2 pinstripes running along the side of the boat
We will do these 2 pinstripes all around the boat as well as the transom. They will be matched with the exact sizing and spacing as the lines just behind the back window.
The grey color that we will do these will have a glitter type look to them.
What I think is critical to the look is to have these just high enough so that there is a short piece of the white paint still sticking out.
The 3 rows of 2 pinstripes behind the back window
As mentioned these will be the exact size lines that will run around the bottom sides of the boat. These will be coated in the same color that we decide to do the hull in.
The colors of the name will also change, it will have a white outline, the same color as the hull in the middle and the silver glitter paint in the middle to match the pinstripes on the lower side of the hull.
Below is the spectrum of colors that we are looking at.
Here is the color example I like the most:
I tried matching the spectrum colors to what I though would be the closest color match to that and it is a nightmare because of all the different shades of light, the closest one is the first 2 colors of the top row.
Before we made any of these decisions I had a friend of mine photoshop all 6 spectrum colours into the boat as well as match the lines behind the window with that color and add the 2 pinstripes on the side of the boat. He even went as far to match the colors and change the colors on the name that we are planning on going with.
I burst out laughing when I saw the first example because I couldnt believe how ridiculous it looks, once again because of the different shades of light of the boat so it wont look like paint but we wanted to make sure on the look because I have always been an all white boat type of guy with minor detailing but this look has grown on me so much and seeing this in real life on other boats looks outstanding.
So below is an example of an older picture of the boat in its plain colour, then its coloured in every color of that spectrum 1-6, shot from the side and from the back.
Also, the swim platforms will be painted the same color as the hull. The blue stuff coming over from the deck onto the back gunnel in the back shots of the boat is going to be removed and that will be covered with the woodgrain type teak.
The floor will most likely be painted the grey to match the name color or the same color as the side of the hull.
This took me a crap long time to post holy crap haha
Spectrum color 1
Spectrum color 2
Spectrum color 3
Spectrum color 4
Spectrum color 5
Spectrum color 6
Posted: Thu Apr 26th, 2018 05:48 pm
Hi Hugo, jou hoef jou self te verduidelik het op my vorige post nie, jammer prober raad gee nie kritiek nie, en het nog alles geprys wat julle mee besig is.
Maar nou gaan ek weer raad gee, want ek het dit op my Ace Craft ervaar! Om die hul 'n ander kleur te maak as Wit,kan oor tyd vir jou 'n problem skep, so pragtig as wat dit lyk is dit nie vir ons damme en riviere bedoel nie.
Jy ken Arabie dam ook met al sy takke en droe bome? Nou 'n krappie haal die verf af en dan sit die wit streep daar, gaan jy weer dieselfde mix kry om dit te kan herstel, of gaan dit soos 'n seer oog wys?
Dan is daar die floatation depth (met gewig en sonder) tot waar jy daai streep wil insit, die water is vuil en die pragtige streep gaan baie aandag nodig kry onmiddelik as jy uit die water uitkom.
Ieder geval, hou van jul spaar kompartement om spasie te kry. Al die brille en pille sal mooi gestoor kan word daar.
Last edited on Thu Apr 26th, 2018 05:50 pm by rianc
Posted: Thu Apr 26th, 2018 07:01 pm
Rian, thanks vir jou input, ek voel nie ek het myself verduidelik nie, ek het 3 of wat vrae gevra op die statements wat jy gemaak het want ek wou verstaan wat jy bedoel
Enige raad en voorstelle is welkom!
Soos ek genoem het, die boot word 98% van die tyd op Gamtoos gebruik en miskien een of twee keer a jaar op Sondags, ek ken ongelukkig nie Arabie dam nie.
Ek het gelukkig in die tyd wat ek op Gamtoos is van kind af oor twee bote wat ons gehaad het nog nie so iets ervaar soos takke en bome wat die boot damage nie, ek is seker die moontlikheid is altyd daar maar op die oomblik is dit a risk wat ek bereid is om te vat om die hull a ander kleur te maak. As dit moet dan sal enige merke reg gemaak word.
Ek het vir myself twee reels gemaak nadat die boot klaar is, ek maak nooit weer aan ander boot vas nie, en ek maak nooit weer aan a jetty vas of a floating dock nie.
Ons is gelukkig in die sin dat gamtoos amper vry is van takke en crap behalwe as die rivier afkom, dan bly ek in anyway van die rivier af, nie soveel vir die boot nie maar meer vir wat die motor onder die water kan slaan. Daar is altyd die moontlikheid dat a spring gety of heavy reen goed in die rivier kan dump.
Ek dink streep of nie, wit, blou of glitter silver, eventually gaan enige kleur aandag nodig he. Ek was wel my boot na elke keer se gebruik amper direk nadat hy uitkom. Wat ek opgemerk het voor ons met die werk begin het is dat ek dull spots hier en daar op my verf gehaad het waar hulle a shitty paint job gedoen het, die res van die boot was helder wit, ek kan net dink omdat dit van die was is sowel as wax elke keer as ek die boot vir a tyd verlaat het.
Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2018 09:17 pm
A block of wood was added to the cabin step, not in the pics but it was sealed and this will also be the ne platform for the track of the door to slide on, not in the pics but the track has also been cleaned up as it did slide a bit rough.
Unfortunately most of the day was spent with the cleaning up of the door, whole door was sanded down and I think the color came out great despite it being quite dark, I didn't expect it to lighten up so much was cleaned up, it has now been varnished so we'll see what it looks like tomorrow.
Posted: Sat Apr 28th, 2018 08:24 pm
Today final prep and measurements were taken to fit the Sondor SPX 33 foam, this stuff comes in a huge sheet so it was cut in various ways to finally fit into the various compartments between the stringers.
Last cleaning done as well as closing the holes that held the aluminum border plate for the seat that we removed:
After that the foam was cut and placed:
Once that was done the remaining pieces were trimmed to fit around the tank and hold it in place:
Next up is finalizing the deck measurements and planning:
Last edited on Sat Apr 28th, 2018 08:26 pm by fstf roller
Posted: Sun Apr 29th, 2018 06:49 pm
The under floor storage box got a coat of gel coat to give it an extra layer of sealing off, we will most likely match the inside paint of it with the color that we decide to go with on the hull sides.
After that the front deck board was leveled and check for final placement.
The bottom of the floorboard was outlined with resin applied then left to cure.
On the outlines Pekay A693 was applied and placed on the stringers for bonding, the add strength they were screwed in also to increase the bonding.
So here the floor is fitted with the holes also cut out for the aft floorboard.
The aftboard still needs some leveling before it will be bonded.
In terms of the holes and cut outs, the space over the fuel sensor pickup is a bit to high for the inspection hatch. It has 2 nuts witch hold the 2 wires in place which we will change to 1 nut each to accomodate for space to get the hatch flush with the floor.
The plumbing whole will be build up in that oval shape to a hight which still allowes access to the pipes but at the same time prevent unnessary water from entering the hole. The back inspection hatch is for the bilge pump access.
The wiring for the fuel sensor as well as the wiring for the bilge pump and plumbing will run up the pvc pipe.
Last edited on Sun Apr 29th, 2018 06:53 pm by fstf roller
Posted: Mon Apr 30th, 2018 06:59 pm
We changed the plan with regards to the what to do around the plumbing hole, we will be making a box that will go around the hole and will link and join up with the bottom side of the motor well. Access to the plumbing will still be available with a bit more inconvenience but we figured once those fittings and pipes are on, there is hardly ever a reason to touch them in the future.
The aft deck got leveled and positioned today as well as marked on the top as to where everything is. After that it was laid out the same way as the forward deck yesterday with resin, then Pekay and then screwed in.
All is now left over night and if all goes to plan, tomorrow the floor will be fiber ed in.
Posted: Fri May 4th, 2018 04:32 pm
Progress has been fairly slow, Timmy is working a crappy shift this week not really allowing for much to be done to the boat, he took some much needed time on the public holiday to use his own boat for a change and go out at Gamtoos, good thing is he didn't come home empty handed.
Both caught on pilchards:
We got hold of a 100mm elbow joint that will go in the corner where all the wiring, cables and steering pipes will go to, this will be holding everything together but yet still be accessible if needed, this pipe will be fiber ed in.
Along with that as mentioned we have changed the plan somewhat with the fuel plumbing, this will now be boxed off with an inspection hatch for access, we also decided to go with cabinet sliding doors for access under the splash well.
The supreme craft 185 had swing door which is where the idea comes from.
The floor got its first layer of fiber in today on the outside.
We took a huge shortcut with the whole splash well and had it lightly blasted to get all the blue stuff off, Timmy said it would have been a whole days work to try and grind all of it off.
Its a bit rough after coming back to that will be smoothed up in time.
Posted: Mon May 7th, 2018 12:39 pm
DAY 27 and 28
Over these 2 days the floor went through it's application of 3 layers of fiber glassing after left to cure over 2 nights.
Below are some pictures of it:
The blue rigging pipe is now also fiber ed in place so pretty much everything will be well out of the way.
After the floor was left to cure it was sanded for last imperfections, it was then painted to improve any of those that might be missed or to spot any imperfections.
After long discussions about the drain plugs Timmy redid the hull drain to be a bit higher, we might have a little bit of pooled water in the deck so thats where the bilge pump idea will have to sort it out.
We also went with 2 main deck drain plugs in stead of the conventional 1:
Last edited on Mon May 7th, 2018 12:40 pm by fstf roller
Posted: Mon May 7th, 2018 01:16 pm
Joined: Tue Mar 27th, 2018
Equipment: Shimano, Daiwa
Best Catch: Barbel, 12.5Kg
Favorite Fishing Spot: Bloemhof
Boat: 17Ft Tobago, 135HP Mercury
Ek kan nie meer die fotos sien nie ?
Posted: Mon May 7th, 2018 01:28 pm
Joined: Tue Mar 17th, 2015
Location: Hartebeespoort Dam, South Africa
Equipment: Nothing yet
Best Catch: 6.5Kg Grunter
Favorite Fishing Spot: Still looking
Boat: 5.5 Aquarius Twin Johnson 60HP
This project is coming along very nicely, I'm so Jealous
Just wanted to ask what paint did you use that is blue, the paint in your under floor hatch? you called it Gel Coat?
I'm looking to Repaint my Hull in the coming months and need something rugged that Sticks like "*** op n wol kombers" but my Budget is quite constrained.
My Duck will be dragged up out of the water, although it has keel strips I need a paint that will stick.
Posted: Mon May 7th, 2018 02:03 pm
Lyk goed Hugo, so bly jet het die drainplug gelig, terwyl jy kon.
Kannie onthou nie, gaan jy mat insit vir lekker onder die voet as 'n ou net cruise, maar vir groot visvang dae het ek 'n overlay in gehad op die deck, van kant tot kant wat water dig was en bloed het jy met 'n besem afgewas. Kannie onthou wat die materiaal was nie, maar basies die dik poly produk wat hulle vir bakkie upholstory gebruik.
Posted: Mon May 7th, 2018 05:36 pm
Yea its a pool coat or gel coat, pretty much the same thing, we had that left over from a previous pool we had, it was merely applied as a sealant, the actual paint will be the same as the outside color of the hull, I think we got it at a normal pool shop.
Depends what you do with your duck, we are gonna go with 2K paint on the boat, I dont want to go the gel coat route, mainly for the cost of it. Sure you can go with 2K and it will work just fine, it just doesnt get as hard as gelcoat does, I'm not super clued up on those things, thats about what I know.
Die hele deck sowel as die kante op die deck gaan nonslip op kry met a fyn grid, ek het dan a los mat wat ek volgens size sny wat bo op dit gaan, dit werk regtig goed en ek lig amper nooit daai mat op nie, dis cheap en hy soak ook baie van die water op.
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