Wapens in Suid Afrika - Page 27 - Stormfront
08-07-2005, 05:00 PM #261
Wetsgehoorsames so ontwapen
Die besluit om die kommando's af te skaf is polities gedrewe en kortsigtig. Die voormalige premier van die Vrystaat, me. Winkie Direko, het in die Vrystaatse Wetgewer gesê: "Kommando's is sleg vir hierdie land."
Die onlangse optrede van die kommando's wat saam met die plaaslike polisie 'n plaasaanval op Petrus Steyn gefnuik het, is bewys dat die kommando's nog 'n rol het om te speel ten opsigte van veiligheid en sekuriteit op die platteland.
Me. Direko het verder gesê: "Ons kan nie hierdie soort struikrowery wat met kommando's geassosieer word, toelaat nie, veral teen weerlose mense onder die voorwendsel dat hulle boere beskerm."
Dit word duidelik dat die beskerming van boere en hul werknemers aan die hand van hierdie stelling as struikrowery afgemaak word. Die beskerming van plattelandse gebiede wat geweldige bydraes in terme van werkverskaffing en die ekonomie lewer, is nie meer vir die huidige regering 'n prioriteit nie. Die minister van verdediging, mnr.Mosiuoa Lekota, het in antwoord op 'n parlemenêre vraag van die DA bekend gemaak dat die kommando's vanaf 2001 tot 23 Junie 2003 in 92 888 operasies ter ondersteuning van die SAPD betrokke was waarvan 17 793 plaasbesoeke was.
Die eerste kommando-eenheid het in 1715 in die Kaap tot stand gekom. Die kommando's het sedertdien die mense van ons land onder verskeie regerings, ook die huidige ANC regering, met lof gedien. Die ANC het reeds vergeet dat die kommando's 'n belangrike rol gespeel het om te verseker dat vrye en regverdige verkiesings in 1994 plaasgevind het. Die regering het met die afskaffing van die kommando's en die nuwe wapenwet bekend gemaak hoe hulle wetsgehoorsame burgers en veral boere in die platteland gaan ontwapen.
Dit is nou tyd dat die regering sy planne om misdadigers te ontwapen, en veediefstal, plaasaanvalle en oorgrensmisdaad te bekamp bekend maak. Om burgers te ontwapen in 'n land waar daar tot 23 000 moorde per jaar is, is dieselfde as om boewe te bewapen.
08-07-2005, 05:05 PM #262
Moeders en kinders weeklaag
Die nuwe wapenwet het betrekking.
O hoe weeklaag ons moeders en vroue in hierdie land van ons! Wie gaan ons en ons kinders beskerm? Oral loop gewetenlose boewe rond en kyk wie kan hulle volgende verkrag of vermoor.
Ons lees van mense wat in motorongelukke sterf maar motors word nie verban nie. Honderde gevalle van geweld word daagliks in Suid-Afrika verhoed, honderde slagoffers word beskerm en ontelbare tragedies word deur gewapende burgers voorkom.
Ek stem saam elke ongeluk, hetsy met 'n motor, geweer, swembad of waar ook al is een te veel, maar waarom hierdie nuwe wetgewing?
Op 25 Julie 1993 het vyf terroriste die St. James-gemeente (Church of England) in Kaapstad aangeval. Binne 8 sekondes het hulle -- met die gooi van handgranate en deur wild in die gemeente te skiet -- 11 mense noodlottig beseer en 55 gewond of vermink. Slegs die flink optrede van een gewapende gemeentlid het die bloedvergieting gestop.
Vuurwapenbeheer is die eerste keer deur die Nazi's toegepas in Duitsland met hul Wet op Vuurwapens en Ammunisie van l928 en l938. Adolf Hitler het verklaar dat hierdie nuwe wetgewing, die eerste in die Westerse wêreld, die strate van Duitsland veiliger sal maak en die polisie in staat sal stel om hul werk beter te doen. Hitler het ook voorspel dat ander nasies spoedig die Nasionaal-sosialistiese voorbeeld sou volg deur die besit van vuurwapens tot regeringsamptenare te beperk.
Gewapende burgers is nie die grootste bedreiging vir menselewens nie. Inteendeel, in die 20ste eeu was dit sekulêre regerings wat hul burgers ontwapen het wat vir die meeste moorde verantwoordelik was. Meer as 160 miljoen mense is tot dusver, in die 20ste eeu alleen, deur hul eie regerings vermoor in meer as 40 kommunistiese state, insluitend die Sowjet-Unie, Rooi China, Kambodja, Kuba, Ethiopië en Mosambiek. (UCANEWS3/98)
Gedurende die menseslagting van 1994 is daar in slegs 100 dae meer mense deur kapmesse en knuppels in Rwanda doodgemaak as wat in die geskiedenis met atoomwapens doodgemaak is. Nadat striemende wetgewing op vuurwapenbeheer ingestel is, is die sistematiese slagting van die Christen-Tutsi-minderheidsgroep deur die Hutu-MRND-regering van Rwanda georganiseer. Aangesien die bevolking vooraf ontwapen is, was hulle hulpeloos om hulself teen die staat -- met sy alleenreg op wapens -- te verdedig.
08-08-2005, 05:44 PM #263
Black Gun Owner's
The Black Gun Owners' Association says it is preparing to sue the Minister of Safety and Security, Charles Nqakula, on behalf of thousands of prospective gun owners who have paid fees in advance to comply with new firearm licence legislation, only to have their applications and requests for refunds refused by the South African Police Service.
Gun dealers have also blamed the stringent Firearms Control Act that came into effect on July 1, 2004 for devastating the local industry and have called for the scrapping of the five-year licence renewals required under the Act.
They also claim the government is bowing to United Nations (UN) pressure to totally disarm civilians, who are instead being criminalised by turning to the black market.
Association chairperson Abios Khoele said his association would file papers at the Pretoria High Court later this month, while its 20 000 members engaged in mass action protests against the blanket refusal of firearm licence applications and refunds.
"Everything has been planned for people not to obtain licences. The government has made a big blunder. The minister (Nqakula) said he does not want illegal firearms, so why is he refusing people legal firearms?
"The new law is encouraging people to support illegal firearms. In South Africa, firearms are readily available and some of the people selling illegal firearms are police (disposing of) amnesty firearms," he said.
He said legal gun owners had reacted to high refusal rates by vowing to report their firearms stolen, escalating the number of illegal firearms in circulation.
Khoele said 80 000 appeals were awaiting replies, but he expected them to be declined.
He said applicants had received identical response letters saying they had not given a "substantial reason" as to why they could not use alternative means of protection.
"Since July 1 last year, I have not sold one gun," Willmers said. He said when customers realised the lengthy processes involved in obtaining a firearm legally, they simply turned to the black market.
Police spokesperson Director Phuti Setati said approximately 3 000 new firearm licence applications had been received under the new legislation.
"The SAPS is not sitting with some 80 000 applications that are set to be declined. A total of 2 400 competency certificates have been issued in terms of the Firearms Control Act since July 1, 2004. A total of approximately 400 firearm licences have been approved. Each application is considered on its own merits and circumstances."
He said the R70 fee paid to the SAPS for competency certificates was "for administrative processing" and was non-refundable. A competency certificate establishes that the applicant is fit to possess a gun and is different from a gun licence, which has to be applied for separately.
South African Gun Owners' Association Chairperson Martin Hood said 120 000 gun licences had been issued to civilians a year in previous years. He said two surveys showed that South Africans were 75 percent and 87 percent in favour of public ownership of firearms.
South African Gun Dealers' Association Chairperson Andrew Suter said before July 1 last year, there were 720 registered gun dealers in South Africa, but only 220 had applied to renew their licences this year. Hundreds had closed their doors.
Suter claimed the police had neither the capacity nor the expertise to administer licence renewals from the country's roughly 2,5-million gun owners. And with three and a half years left to renew 4,5-million firearm licences, at the current pace of work, it would take 26 875 years, he said.
However, a positive sign "which showed government was at least listening", had been a call by Nqakula to set up an advisory committee drawn from leaders in the firearm industry as provided by the Act.
Setati said: "The SAPS do have the necessary capacity and expertise to issue competence certificates and to administrate applications."
He denied allegations that the government was bowing to United Nations pressure to disarm civilians.
"The SAPS is primarily responsible for... legislation aimed at preventing the proliferation of illegally possessed firearms, to vigorously address firearms-related crime and the establishment... of a firearm and maintenance system."
Margy Keegan, the advocacy manager for Gun Free South Africa, said it was "critical for government to take firm action to implement gun control".
08-08-2005, 06:04 PM #264
Just another cash heist. So many of them... when they are published we tend to ignore them. The dire implications of this one should not go unnoticed. Police said about 25 robbers - armed with AK-47s and R-5 rifles and wearing bulletproof vests lay in wait for the cash in transit vehicle. Where do 25 robbers get military rifles and bullet proof vests from? Does no one realise what this question implies? These robbers could only have been equipped by the state police service or the army. If not, who else? The perpetrators must have had training. Who could have trained them? If not the same state services, who? They were not caught. Like Mr Stander our most notorious bank robber, acting policemen and soldiers are the most difficult to catch. The Firearms Control Act will disarm the innocent victims of crime, but these perpetrators know no restrictions. So we are led like lambs to slaughter.
08-08-2005, 06:13 PM #265
Gun owners decide to sue
SAPS Dir Phuti Setati speak with forked tongue.
Prior to July 1st 2004 the SAPS in contesting an interdict in
the Pretoria High court claimed they were ready to implement the
Firearms Control Act. There are no excuses the SAPS can blame
for the issue of only some 300 new licences under this act. By
the end of the year they will in addition have to process some
750 000 licence renewals. Clearly an impossible task that needs
to be repeated until 3.5 million licences have been processed.
Nor can appeals be used as an excuse as these are handled by the
appeal board. Even so only 3000 the huge backlog of licences
under the old act have been issued. Previously there were 150
000..180 000 licences issued each year.
Either the SAPS are not telling the truth and weaving a web of
lies including perjury in the high court to cover up their
incompetence or they are spinning their wheels on government
orders to frustrate and disarm the South African public.
Dir Phuti Setati needs to resign for wasting police manpower and
public money if he is unaware that nowhere in the world has gun
control reduced crime or the supply of guns to criminals.
Margy Keegan and Gun Free South Africa prefer to see helpless
victims of crime beg for their lives. Women and children raped
while helpless citizens look on, unable to prevent armed
criminals for fear of being killed.
08-08-2005, 06:46 PM #266
Ek het ook my wapeninstrukteurskursus gedoen. Ek jag nog af en toe as die geleentheid daar is. My wapens word in 'n versteekte kluis toegesluit en met die grootste liefde en respek hanteer -- en is wettig gekoop en gelisensieer.
Solank ek voldoen aan die nuwe eise ten opsigte van my wettige wapens en die bewaring daarvan, sien ek geen nut daarin om op my ouderdom -- en met my ondervinding en kennis van vuurwapens -al daardie toetse te ondergaan en die koste daaraan verbonde aan te gaan nie.
Ek versoek die wetmakers om ons oues in vrede te laat, want ons het nog net 'n paar jaar om te lewe.As ek oor 'n paar jaar na 'n tehuis vir bejaardes moet gaan, sal ek my wapens aan die polisie oorhandig, maar oor my dooie liggaam nie voor daardie tyd aanbreek nie. ONTEVREDE BOER EN SY ROER Vredendal
08-08-2005, 08:20 PM #267
'n VOORTVLUGTENDE wat sy inhegtenisneming wil ontwyk, mag met reg doodgeskiet word.
Hierdie (tweede) bydra oor die bepalings van ons land se strafkode in verband met inhegtenisneming fokus op geweld tydens inhegtenisneming en die bevoegdheid van Jan Alleman om as gewone landsburger iemand in hegtenis te mag neem.
Art. 49 van die wet omskryf die rolle van "inhegtenisnemer" en "verdagte" by die proses van inhegtenisneming.
Die artikel laat die inhegtenisnemer toe om 'n verdagte, wat duidelik daarop uit is om sy/haar in hegtenisneming te ontvlug, met "dodelike geweld" onder bedwang te kry.
Sulke geweld word egter slegs toegelaat indien daar redelike gronde is om te vermoed dat:
die geweld nodig is om die inhegtenisnemer (of iemand wat hom/haar met die inhegtenisneming help) te beskerm daarteen om self gedood te word;
daar 'n wesenlike risiko is dat die verdagte iemand mag doodmaak of ernstig beseer ;
die misdryf waarvoor die verdagte in hegtenis geneem moet word, reeds gebeur en inhou dat iemand se lewe daardeur in gevaar is óf hy/sy in die proses ernstig beseer kan word.
Dodelike geweld behels, in 'n neutedop, dat ons howe verg dat iemand wat iemand in hegtenis neem, moet weet wat die reg van hom verg. Ons howe vra nie die onmoontlike van 'n inhegtenisnemer nie, maar bloot redelike optrede. Waar iemand agternagesit word omdat hy vlug, neem ons howe die beperkinge van 'n mens se lyf in ag. As jy so in die hardloop moet skiet, verwag die hof nie noodwendig 'n skoot in die bene om die ontvlugting te probeer stuit nie. 'n Skoot in die rug mag óók reg wees, al mik jy vir die bene.
Wat wel belangrik is, is dat die erns van die misdryf 'n vername faktor is om te bepaal of die geweld redelik en onregmatig was.
'n Onoordeelkundige skietery kan die inhegtenisnemer self in die tronk laat beland weens iets soos poging tot moord.
Hierdie vermaning is veral belangrik waar 'n private persoon self iemand in hegtenis neem, want die strafkode veroorloof dit spesifiek.
Art. 42 van die wet bepaal 'n private persoon kan iemand, sonder 'n lasbrief, in hegtenis neem wat :
In sy teenwoordigheid 'n misdryf vermeld in bylae 1 tot die wet pleeg, met ander woorde dinge doen soos openbare geweld, moor, verkrag, onsedelik aanrand, roof, aanrand deur gevaarlike wonde toe te dien, brandstig, inbreek, steel, ens.Hy redelikerwys verwoed vlug omdat die verdagte 'n misdryf gepleeg het en probeer om sy inhegtenisneming te ontwyk.
Art. 42(3) magtig ook spesifiek die eienaar of wettige okkupeerder van 'n eiendom om 'n oortreder in hegtenis te mag neem wat op so 'n perseel of eiendom 'n misdaad pleeg.
Dis ook belangrik om te weet dat enige Suid-Afrikaanse manspersoon tussen 16 en 60 verplig is om 'n lid van die polisie met 'n inhegtenisneming by te staan as hy daarom versoek word.
Voorberei saam met Marli Raubenheimer. Rig navrae aan haar by Naudes (051) 400-4000.
Radio's is nodig in hierdie gebiede
DIE Agri Securitas-trustfonds het die aankoop van radio's vir gebruik in landelike beveiliging deur Verkeerdevlei Landbou gefinansier.
In die distrik Verkeerdevlei woon 170 plaaseienaars en nagenoeg 300 plaaswerkers en hul gesinne wat sal baat vind by die noodkommunikasiestelsel wat in gebruik geneem sal word.
Mnr. Kobus Visser, direkteur: korporatiewe skakeling van Agri SA, sê veldbrande wat by aanliggende informele nedersettings en langs die N1-roete by Verkeerdevlei ontstaan, veroorsaak jaarliks groot skade in die distrik.
Plaasaanvalle het reeds in die gebied voorgekom en die radio's sal doeltreffend in sulke gevalle aangewend kan word, asook in die koördinering van die bestryding van veldbrande.
Die bestaande kommunikasiestelsels is nie doeltreffend in 'n noodsituasie nie en die radio's sal die doeltreffende ontplooiing van noodreaksieplanne verhoog.
Visser sê die landbou is 'n waardevolle sektor in die Suid-Afrikaanse ekonomie en onmisbaar ten opsigte van sy bydrae tot maatskaplike welvaart, vrede en stabiliteit in landelike gebiede.
Die hoë vlakke van misdaad in landelike gebiede, maar veral die voortslepende misdaad op plase, lê die stabiliserende rol wat landbou in landelike gebiede speel ernstig aan bande. Die beveiliging van die landbougemeenskap bly steeds een van die hoogste prioriteite binne Agri SA. Die organisasie poog om deur die Agri Securitas-trustfonds 'n bydrae te maak tot die verbetering van die landbougemeenskap se veiligheid, sodat die sektor kan voortgaan om voedsel en vesel te produseer vir die land se bevolking. Dit is bemoedigend dat instansies soos Nissan SA, Smartcom en CrisisOnCall groot bedrae geld aan die trustfonds bewillig, wat hom in staat gestel het om reeds 66 landelike beveiligingsprojekte te finansier.
08-12-2005, 06:44 PM #268
Heaven only knows what one must tell firearm owners before they
will actually grasp the concept that the Firearms Control Act is
nothing but the ANCs disarmament plan. It is not a relicencing
exercise it is not a slight hindrance to firearm ownership it is
Since 1997 all the clues have been there. The manner in which
firearm organisations were excluded from the drafting process.
The ignoring of virtually all public input and the contempt in
which it was handled. The steam-roller that processed this Act
through parliament and to eventual implementation. The
ideological and undemocratic nature of the Act itself that gives
huge arbitrary powers to the SAPS and Minister without
Not withstanding all that the Portfolio Committee meeting
minutes that show how keen ANC ministers are for the Act to be
implemented so "they can begin collecting guns". The statement
of Louis Kok chief drafter of the Act that government expected
to collect 500,000 guns in the first year of implementation.
Minister Charles Nqakula has already indicted on national TV
that certain loop holes will be closed at the end of the year.
There are only two and they are the deregulation of air power
arms and black powder arms. Both can be expected to become
licencable again due to unexpected high sales and abuse.
Unfortunately many shooting organisations attempted to cut deals
with the SAPS. These mischievous attempts have been treated
with contempt with no hope of fruition. The unfortunate result
was that members were assured that the FCA was not so bad. That
members would by working with the SAPS be able to get licences
and continue as per normal. Nothing could be further from the
It has been said that if firearm owners formed a firing squad
they would form a circle facing inward. There is a large degree
of truth in that. However the time has come for firearm owners
to become annoyed that government has excluded them, ignored
them and intends to disarm them.
It is every firearm owners right and duty to fight for the
rights they believe in and should have. Not standing up to be
counted is a vote for government to take your guns and they will.
08-13-2005, 05:44 AM #269
"Ons is almal saam met brig Papenfus (briewe 11 Aug) bang oor die
misdaadsituasie in SA. 'n Mens lees daagliks in die koerante van alle
soorte misdade wat sonder aansiens des persoons gepleeg word. Baie van
hierdie misdade kon verhoed gewees het as die slagoffers bewapen was.
Maar nou kom die staat met die nuwe Vuurwapenbeheerwet wat uitsluitlik
daarop gemik is om die publiek te ontwapen en hulle sodoende makliker
prooi vir die misdadiger te maak. Watter potensiële inbreker sal nie twee
keer dink voor hy by 'n huis inbreek waar hy weet die inwoners is bewapen
nie. Só dom is die misdadiger nie. Nee, die hulpelose, die oue van dae,
die kind word die slagoffers.
Wat boonop iets soos 750 000 wettige vuurwapeneienaars in die gesig staar
is dat hulle op 1 Januarie 2006 heel moontlik as misdadigers
geklassifiseer sal word omdat hulle vuurwapenhernuwings nog nie afgehandel
sal kan wees nie. Volgens inligting is daar tans maar ongeveer 300
hernuwings reeds afgehandel. Alhoewel die SAPD in die Hooggeregshof
verklaar het dat alles op 1Julie 2004 in plek sal wees om die hernuwings
en nuwe aansoeke te hanteer, gebeur daar baie duidelik bykans niks, en die
jaar loop vinnig einde se kant toe.
Ek wonder net wat gaan gebeur met SAPD-lede wat privaat vuurwapens besit.
Gaan hulle hulself toesluit of gaan 'n "wapenvrye" kollega dit doen? Kan
iemand met verstand in die regering nie sien dat die Vuurwapenbeheerwet
nie kan werk nie, nie nou nie, nooit nie."
08-13-2005, 11:43 AM #270
die loop die selfde pad as die bestuurder lisensie, n groot gemors
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