yürüyerek - durarak
6376 posts 30 Oct 2006 Mon 09:20 pm
Can someone please explain the grammar of these verbs? İs the suffix simply -erek / -arak and is Y the bufferletter?
Can someone please give some example sentences where this kind of verb is used, with English translations.
802 posts 30 Oct 2006 Mon 11:29 pm
It is the gerunds of state.
The gerunds of state -erek / -arak is formed by adding -erek / -arak to the verb base: yÃ¼rÃ¼-y-erek, koş-arak, Ã§alış-arak, dinle-y-erek, anla-y-arak, ("y" is the buffer letter)â€¦
When the suffix -erek / -arak is added to the verbs â€œdemekâ€ and â€œyemekâ€ the â€œeâ€ in the verb bases changes to â€œiâ€: diyerek, yiyerek.
The gerunds of state -erek / -arak is used to express how the action occured, or in what manner it occured. It corresponds to â€œâ€¦â€¦ingâ€ or â€œby â€¦â€¦ingâ€ in English. The important point is: the gerunds of state -erek / -arak is used in the sense of â€œwhileâ€. Thatâ€™s, the main action occurs while an other action is going on.
Ã‡ocuklar koşarak parka gittiler. (The children went to the park by running.)
Taksimâ€™den Beşiktaşâ€™a yÃ¼rÃ¼yerek gittik. (We went to Beşiktaş from Taksim on foot)
GÃ¶zlerinin iÃ§ine bakarak â€œseni seviyorumâ€ dedi. (Looking into her eyes â€œI love youâ€ he said.)
Titreyerek ellerimi kaldırdım. (Trembling, I raised my hands.)
Mehmet kapıyı Ã§arparak odadan Ã§ıktı. (Mehmet went out of the room by slamming the door.)
435 posts 31 Oct 2006 Tue 04:39 pm
Has the same sence if I say this?
435 posts 31 Oct 2006 Tue 06:07 pm
12 posts 31 Oct 2006 Tue 06:10 pm
yes...exactly same sense
435 posts 31 Oct 2006 Tue 06:17 pm
802 posts 31 Oct 2006 Tue 11:39 pm
The gerunds of state suffix can't be added to a negative verb.
"Konuşmadan gel": adding the suffix -den to a verbal noun conveys the sense of "without"
435 posts 01 Nov 2006 Wed 03:03 am
I see: So I should say:
507 posts 01 Nov 2006 Wed 08:30 am
I think it's OK when you add -arak to a negative verb. What do you mean "can't be added"?
Second thing I think -dan is added to the negative verb stem in "konuşmadan". It should be thought of as -madan instead of -ma + -dan. -ma part should be negative verb suffix -ma- because the syllable before -ma- is stressed and besides if we accept it as -ma infinitive, where does the negation come from then? I don't think -dan part makes it negative.
802 posts 01 Nov 2006 Wed 03:43 pm
Second thing I think -dan is added to the negative verb stem in "konuşmadan". It should be thought of as -madan instead of -ma + -dan. -ma part should be negative verb suffix -ma- because the syllable before -ma- is stressed and besides if we accept it as -ma infinitive, where does the negation come from then? I don't think -dan part makes it negative
You are right. That should be -meden / -madan.