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Bulls now better than in 2005
Springbok legend and now Cheetahs scrum gury, Os du Randt, believes the Bulls are a far better team now than the one that suffered a shock defeat to the Cheetahs in the final in 2005 at Loftus.
The Blue Bulls team that will take on the Cheetahs in Saturday’s Currie Cup final is stronger than the one that played against the Free State in 2005. That is the view of former Springbok prop and Cheetahs scrum coach Os du Randt.
He believes the Bulls are the overwhelming favourites for Saturday’s final as they have a number of world class players in their ranks.
“The Bulls are more mature and experienced than they were in 2005,” said Du Randt.
“They are playing with practically the same squad and are now a better team.”
Wynand Olivier (centre), Bryan Habana (wing), Morné Steyn (flyhalf), Fourie du Preez (scrumhalf), Pedrie Wannenburg (flank), Victor Matfield, Bakkies Botha, Danie Rossouw (all locks) and Heini Adams (scrumhalf) were all involved in the 2005 final.
“The Bulls are also in the favourable position that they have played in Super14 finals since 2005 and are the Super14 champions. They would have learned a lot from that,” said Du Randt.
By contrast, Cheetahs coach Naka Drotské has set about building a new team since taking over the reins from Rassie Erasmus in 2007.
The only Free Staters that were involved in the 2005 final that will play at Loftus on Saturday are loosehead prop Wian du Preez, replacement flank Kabamba Floors and centre Meyer Bosman.
Du Randt, Drotské and Barend Pieterse (lineout coach) have retired as players since the 2005 final, but are still involved in the Cheetahs’ coaching set-up.
Free State’s backline coach of 2005, Helgard Muller, is now the team manager. Like in 2005, the Cheetahs of this year are keeping their feet firmly on the ground and Du Randt therefore did not want to say much about their chances.
“One thing I can say about the current Cheetahs team is that it is peaking at the right time,” said Du Randt.
DavidS October 29, 2009 at 09:38
I recall the bragging of everyone before that last game
Rugby is not a contact sport it is a collision sport
Free State breaking their scrum machine before the game
As long as the Shocks and WiePee are nowhere near the cup all is well in South African rugby.
Notice how our dominance of world rugby in 1995 and 2007 coincided with dominance of the local game by inland teams… with a smattering of okay players from the coast…
DavidS October 29, 2009 at 09:41
Should rather say Shocks and “Weslukke Proe Vissie”
PietPloos October 29, 2009 at 09:47
How on earth could the Lions appoint (a) Dick?
Bunny October 29, 2009 at 09:50
“Springbok legend and now Cheetahs scrum gury, Os du Randt, believes the Bulls are a far better team now than the one that suffered a shock defeat to the Cheetahs in the final in 2005 at Loftus.”
The Cheetahs are also better than the 2005 team and my problem with the Bulls is that half the team is tired because of Springbok duties. And next week they playing again for the Boks.
Will they be tired for the Final?
Will they be thinking of the Test Match against the hoenders?
Something the Cheetahs do not have!!!
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 09:54
Boerethug October 29, 2009 at 10:11
bunny, it is a huge problem. The top boks should have a longer off season between eoyt and the pre season s14 practise and games. I heard in an interview with victor that it is only 1 week.
Minora October 29, 2009 at 10:14
Copied from a post on the Bulls official website:
Elke WP en Haai,
Maak nou ‘n groot lawaai.
Self kon hul niks vermag,
maar nou wil hulle spog met die Cheetah se krag.
Hoor nou die gedonnner en gedruis,
Van die agterbakse WP-gespuis!
Elke diepsee haai,
Staan tou om saam met ‘n Cheetah te braai
Wen of verloor my bloed bly Blou.
Ek verruil nie my siel deur met ‘n Cheetah te trou!
Boerethug October 29, 2009 at 10:19
Reply to Minora @ 10:14 am:
Wat ñ great comment!
PietPloos October 29, 2009 at 10:35
BVoodskapo wat ek uit Bloemfontein gekry het:
Daar is net een kwas en dis Griekwas
Daar is net een staat en dis die Vrystaat
Daar is net een skaap en dit is gemeenskaap!!
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 10:36
“Self kon hul niks vermag,
maar nou wil hulle spog met die Cheetah se krag”
“Copied from a post on the Bulls official website”
ten minste is die buLLe “opleibAAr”
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 10:39
SoMMige blou oNNersteuners het huLLe self so k :poop: k gedra dat huLLe mAAr net sAAm met huLLe se eie sOOrt sal kan brAAi!
Net vir die rekord
Die res van die land hAAt juLLe nie
is verseker OOk nie afgunstig nie
as gevolg van juLLe eie optrede sedert 2003 is dit net moelik om juLLe onvOOrwAArdlik te “lAAik”
Ek lEEs dat ouens in brakpan wat skoene dra word dagbesoekers genoem!
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 10:40
Reply to PietPloos @ 10:35 am:
Hans sal dAAi EEn geniet!
Morné October 29, 2009 at 10:47
Reply to Minora @ 10:14 am: Reply to Boerethug @ 10:19 am:
DavidS October 29, 2009 at 11:06
Ek dink daai gedig is iets tekort..
Ek is ‘n Leeu maar glo my
Die naweek is my bloed blou…
Die Bloemfonteiners het die ondersteuning van die see spanne en dis genoeg om my van hulle af te walg…
Die Cheetahs is nie my tweede span nie… die Bulle is…
DavidS October 29, 2009 at 11:11
Reply to Morné @ 10:47 am: Arme Morne kan nie ‘n foto kry van ‘n WP wat celebrate oor iets gewen nie…
Ek wonder hoekom nie…
Seker omdat hule bokkeroll gewen het sedert 2001….
Jis amper tien jaar sedert hulle laas eers in ‘n final gespeel het… raak maar bleek ne?
Ten minste het die Leeus al twee keer sedert 1999 in ‘n finaal gespeel… al het hulle verloor.
Mens sal maar na groen truie moet gaan soek vir WP’s wat iets celebrate..
O en die Leeus het darem al paar keer die Vodakak Beker gewen…
:finger: :brownie: : bigfinger:
Minora October 29, 2009 at 11:36
Reply to DavidS @ 11:06 am:
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 11:40
Ten minste dra juLLe skuNNe in Kemton!
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 11:41
Reply to Minora @ 11:36 am:
Ag Ou Skerpstes
Het jy al skelm begin sjampyn drink!
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 11:43
Die deBBen piete lAAik die ouens wat nie vir huLLe spEEl nie eintlik voKKel!
Boerethug October 29, 2009 at 11:56
Reply to WiLLem @ 11:43 am:
Ja maar die debben piete sien die staat as een van hulle feeder clubs.
Boerethug October 29, 2009 at 12:01
nou misbruik mornè sy regte as deel van admin, om ñ foto te post van die vet overrated een. Net oor daar nie foto van puke (sy hero) in ñ strepies trui bestaan, waar hulle actually iets wen nie.
Morné October 29, 2009 at 12:12
Reply to Boerethug @ 12:01 pm:
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 12:35
Reply to Morné @ 12:12 pm:
Oudste would like that as a desktop!
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 12:36
Reply to Boerethug @ 11:56 am:
hehehe fEEder of te nie
ChEEtahs is iNNie final!
Morné October 29, 2009 at 12:39
Reply to WiLLem @ 12:36 pm:
Seems the boys are getting a bit tense before the final…
Can’t imagine Dawie’s excuse however, not sure if he remembers how to spell the word ‘final’.
PietPloos October 29, 2009 at 13:00
AG NEE MAN MORNE!!
Morné October 29, 2009 at 13:01
Reply to PietPloos @ 1:00 pm:
Hehe, as much as it pisses WP okes off, you have to know and appreciate how it absolutely irks Bullie boys to their very core.
PietPloos October 29, 2009 at 13:07
Reply to Morné @ 1:01 pm:
I’m with the Bullie Boys on that one!!
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 13:08
Reply to PietPloos @ 1:07 pm:
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 13:09
Reply to Morné @ 12:39 pm:
cab October 29, 2009 at 13:23
lol, that makes even me want to puke.
ag well. just young, the kids like the superhero stuff.
PietPloos October 29, 2009 at 13:28
Ek voel nie eens or Julies Malema soos ek oor $46 voel nie!!
Morné October 29, 2009 at 13:46
Reply to PietPloos @ 1:28 pm:
Ek het n artikel spesiaal vir jou nounet geplaas.
Minora October 29, 2009 at 13:48
Minora October 29, 2009 at 13:55
This year you took away:
My favourite singer, Michael Jackson
My favourite actor Patrick Swayze
My favourite actress Farrah Fawcett
Just so you know, my favourite Politician Is Julius Malema
Minora October 29, 2009 at 13:56
Reply to WiLLem @ 11:41 am:
Nog nie WiLLem, nog nie…..
WiLLem October 29, 2009 at 14:17
Reply to Minora @ 1:56 pm:
sOOs ek gese het
Die BuLLs is darem opleibAAr
huLLe lEEr uit huLLe foute
iets wat mens nie van die aNNer spaNNe- or mEEr presies- EEn spesifieke span se suPPorters kan se nie!
Bunny October 29, 2009 at 14:50
Sal jou saterdag kom gelukk wens of jou kom spot oor jou span. Sal terug wees vir die Final
Minora October 29, 2009 at 15:55
Reply to Bunny @ 2:50 pm:
Maak so – jy moes nou nie spesiaal terug gevlieg het net om die Bulls te kom ondersteun nie!!!