L: Them [the woman’s family], the people you have come to see. They ask who you [the man’s representatives] are, then they ask you to take out the first bottle of brandy called isazimzi3. You’ll take that out by the kraal. You have not been inside the house yet. Can you see that there are two [locations where the negotiations can be done] now; can you see that there are two? You let them know while you are still by the kraal that your son4 is asking for their blessing to marry their daughter. They ask you how many cows you have brought with you, as they can see that we [the man’s representatives] know the girl we have come to ask for. You [the man’s representatives] will place all these bottles of brandy that I spoke about before by the kraal. You will place everything by the kraal and be done with all the lobola negotiations by the kraal. When you are done with the negotiations, they [the woman’s family] will leave to go and discuss, just as I said they did when the negotiations were in the house. They also take the money with them when they leave. If they leave it, we might take it back, so they take it and leave. When they come back, we all go inside the house. Can you see that the lobola negotiations can be done outside by the kraal or inside the house? Both of these ways are now possible, because the tradition has been slightly westernized. You [the man’s representatives] are taken from the kraal and led inside the house, but if it was the original Xhosa way, the negotiations would be done by the kraal. Now you just go inside the house. Let’s say you come with 30,000 rand; the family of the bride has to accept you then.