Mangaung vier - Page 2 - Stormfront
01-10-2013, 03:20 AM #11
Die FVP het 'n beginsel dat elke volk hulle self kan verteenwoordig op 'n politieke speelveld binne Suid Afrika. Die verteenwoordigings aspek kom van baie kante af nl, kultuur, selfbeskking ens.
Tans word die geografie van mag net aan die ANC toevertrou. Die mag kom slegs terug na die publiek met elke verkiesing wat plaasvind, en daardie mag word weer afgesny net na die verkiesing afgehandel is. Die mag vir die volgende vyf jaar is dan ten volle by die ANC, en hulle kan besluit hoe en op watter manier ons as volk behandel moet word. Nie net ons nie maar ander volke en stamme ook.
Snaaks word die mag gesien as Liberale Demokrasie.
Ontleding van hierdie mag het twee aspekte nl. Liberaal en Demokrasie.
Ek gaan nie uitbrei die betekenis van die twee woorde Liberaal en Demokrasie nie, met aanvaarding dat ons almal weet wat dit beteken.
In die Liberale Demokrasie is daar twee aspekte wat plaasvind. Die Liberaal verkoop sy volk uit aan die meerderheid. Die Liberaal neem aanvaarding dat sy volk se kultuur, geskiedenis ens. vernietig moet word na die skepping van 'n een kultuur, geskiedenis, Godsdiens ens. Die oorwinnaar besluit die rigting waarin koerante, politikuste ens die rigting bepaal.
In die aspek van magsdeling is daar niks vir die Zulu, Venda, Kleurling, Afrikaner/Boer, Tswana ens nie. Daar is nie eens 'n drie kamer aspek wat bestaan het voor die Codesa vergaderings wat begin is deur Van Zyl Slabbert in Dakar. Die drie kamer aspek het bestaan uit die Afrikaner, Indier en die kleurling.
Die aspek van samesprekings kom van baie aspekte binne ons samelewe te voorskyn. Die Politieke afdeling in beheer van die land moet die verskillende volke en stamme saamsnoer onder die dekmantel van verteenwoordiging polities ens. Die enigste metode is om die groepe in besprekings afdeling binne politieke afdelings te gebruik. Verteenwoordigers van die verskillende volk, stam groepe is 'n moet.
Ek is 'n aanhanger van Boonzaaier omdat sy beginsel nie, finansieel van aard is nie, maar met volksbelang.
01-10-2013, 08:25 AM #12
Kan dit nie beter gestel het nie.
En my betrokkenheid by FVP is bloot gesels met hulle op Twitter. Daar is ooreenkomste tussen my denke en hulle benadering.
Op die ou end is Boere nasionalisme nie haat teenoor ander rasse en volke nie maar oor liefde vir ons eie. Ek voel eintlik baie min vir ander rasse en gun hulle 'n plekkie in die son... solank dit nie my son is en my plekkie is nie. Dis 'n werklike nasionalis. PERSOONLIK haat ek egter kaffers vir PERSOONLIKE redes en dis my PERSOONLIKE gevoel, maar dit speel geen rol in my smag na die nasionalisme van my volk nie. Dis maar net iets wat ek toevallig doen.
Ek hou van hulle beginplan om Verwoerdse afsonderlike staats bestelle vir elke volk te bewerkstellig.
Suid Afrika is 'n geografiese beskrywing nie 'n land nie. Dis tyd dat ons dit korrigeer.
Menigte Boere is op soek na 'n redder, maar wil nie hulle koppe uitsteek om die redder by te staan nie. Hulle los die redder om die volk se werk te doen. Maar wanneer hierdie redder in die moeilikheid kom soos in die geval van Hein Boonzaaier, dan wil hulle kritiseer.
Die Boere is besig met edele verwagtinge maar met dwase liggelowigheid.
Enige ander stelsel behalwe die stelsel van minderheidsveto in een van die wetgewende kamers waar die verskillende rassegemeenskappe gelyk verteenwoordig word is verdoemend teenoor ander groepe. Die konflik sal altyd bestaan, en uitgebyt word deur politikuste.
Die ANC natuurlik wil nie hierdie groepe bymekaar kry nie, vir net een rede; die groepe sal vir 'n Federale staat vra, en daarna afdwing.
Die ANC sal daarmee hulle politieke mag verloor aan die minderheidsveto. Besprekings sal uitloop op soeke na gemeenskaplikke doelstellings.
In Suid Afrika se geval het Liberale Demokrasie uitgeloop op rassisme van die hoogste graad gepleeg teen die blankes. In die swartes se geval was hulle gelukkig genoeg om in te val in 'n demografiese meerderheid, en dit bring die aspek dat demokrasie vermom word.
Die ideologiese foefie , nattuurlik, is dat 'n askriptiewe, rasgedefineerde meerderheid nie naastenby 'n meerderheid is wat saamgestel is uit verskuiwende koalisies van individue op die basis van kommunaliteit of gemeenskaplike oortuigings en belange nie - dit is een ras teen die ander.
Die ANC hou die hele Suid Afrika vas as gekke, en dwase. Die ANC bou 'n blywende haat vir die Boere en bou daarmee 'n aggressiewe Afrikanernisme, en Boerisme en regstellende aksies teen die groepe.
01-11-2013, 04:31 AM #14
“The plan was to kill ANC president Jacob Zuma and his former deputy, Kgalema Motlanthe, on December 16 with mortar bombs while they dined with delegates and guests at the ANC’s 53rd national conference. If that failed, the alternative plan was that men armed with assault rifles, such as AK-47s or R4s, would invade the dining venue and assassinate them and other high-ranking politicians. These details of a plan to kill Zuma and Motlanthe were unveiled in the Bloemfontein Magistrate’s Court on Tuesday. The plan is contained in a charge sheet that contains the state’s case against the four rightwingers from Gauteng charged for being the alleged architects of the plot. The plan was supposed to be two-staged. Initially, according to documents and a confession statement, the rightwingers had intended to attack Zuma, Motlanthe, cabinet members and senior ANC leaders with mortar bombs while they dined. If the first plan failed, these alleged plotters, according to the prosecution, then hatched a plan to invade the dining hall and kill Zuma, Motlanthe and cabinet members execution-style. “- The Post (ANC leaders alleged mortar targets - Post | IOL.co.za )
One may ask now why would the commie rat pack devise such a evil stupid plan to incarcerate white innocent people- and why would the commie dregs pull a stunt like this- I mean- this sounds absurd? Well my dear reader- with the ANC NOTHING is absurd. One must understand that-like all across the word- the NWO dregs are running the show…and so it is with South-Africa as well. The ANC are not running the show ‘ere by a long shot- they merely are stinkbugs – dallying on strings on the end of the Wall Street Zionist puppet masters fingers. Remember- The Zionist created communism- the Zionist created the term “Democracy”- and the Zionist also created the term ” Right Winger.” You see- it works like this: For every ” good” force – there must be an” evil ” force…it’s a law of nature. The one cannot exist without the other. Thus- the Zionist created the term ” Democracy”- a system that sounds very attractive on the ear if you listen to the pillars it is supposed to rest upon- but factually this ” democracy” in reality is an evil system whereby these money Zerks sap you from nearly every penny you posses through taxes, levies, high prices, interests , inflation and ressesion. Through their ” Democracy” they steal about $6.00 from every $ 10.00 you earn. “Democracy” factually only means that your freedom only lies there when you have got nothing else to loose anymore. “Democracy” can be spelled “ Demon-cracy”- for that is what it is…evil posing as the angel of light. They use all these beautiful terms like ” freedom, human rights, rainbow nation, job creation, etc, etc”- to wrap around this evil virus- just for the eye-blinding exercise. Through their ” democracy” they manufacture very inhuman “laws” to ” control” you- with naturally- the ever present bulls*it ” motivation” that this or that “law” actually are their to ” protect” you- like the gun laws- or that this “law” are being put in place to make the life for you “better and safer” – like the protection/security laws. On the end of the line- that SAME laws works against you to handicap, impoverish and control you- and THEY are the ones living a better ” life”- and you…you end -up being sucker punched to foot the bill for their extravagant life-styles and fat bank accounts. THAT- dear reader- is ” Democracy“- a system where you vote and give them the right to disarm you, oppress you – and take away your liberty and freedom to enslave you to work for them. Their media propagate a lie long enough to brainwash the population- you believe it for the truth because you read and hear it a thousand times- and then they make a law to substantiate the lie.
The term “right winger“- started in the UK media..on that evil island “up North”- and was attributed towards specific the Boer people in South-Africa that did not kneel to the NWO proposed “democracy” they wanted to enforce upon the Boers through the ANC. On the other side of the coin- have you ever read in the lib-tabloids of the term ” Far left wing?” No? Chances is that you never will- for in this mad liberal-controlled world “far-left wing” actually means ” democratic.” Have you EVER heard or read the media calling any other race bar the whites ” Right wingers?” This is a proof that the Zionists use the media to very slowly and sublimity demonizing all whites as evil creatures. There is no “moderate” or ” middle” region anymore…you either are liberal- or a ” right winger” as far as whites are concerned. Why does the Zionist media not refer to extremist Muslims- or rebelling blacks as ” right wingers?” No- THAT term is reserved exclusively to demonize whites. What the Zionist globalists are doing- is systematically portraying white conservative people as evil demons in the eyes of the naive global chicken pen….the “right wing Boogeyman” to scare the whits out of your kids. Each and every occurrence where there is a white man and a gun involved- immediately the Zionist media tab the mass-murderer as a ” right-winger”- irrespective if he acted alone or not or belong to a “ right wing” organization or not. This helps the Zionist two ways- get rid of the whites- and the guns….two possible “threats” our of the way. When a dark person does the same- all hushed-up by the pink media…for dark races cannot be ” right wingers.” Ever wondered why so many other races hates the whites- go ask the Zionists. I will not be surprised if the Zionists re-write the Bible- referring to Satan as a ” Far right winger” as well.
The easiest way to achieve this goal- is by flooding a country with a race that could multiply fast and could be “utilized” within 5 generations. The Zionists and their toad-brained liberals want to control everything- and do not tolerate independent thoughts. To conclude the situation then when we take all this together- you must understand the new terminology used by the New World Order terrorists and what it actually meant in the old dispensation : “Left winger” now means “Democrat.” The term “Far Left winger” thus refer to a NWO political ” Dictator.” On the opposing end of the scale does ” Right winger” actually mean ” White Conservative”-as per dictionary - and “Far right winger” refers to ” White Self independent.“ Now this is ONE term the Zionist do not even want to smell in their vocabulary….” white independence”- for they thrive on the white cattle to supply the much needed funding to support their dark parasites. Once one white become ” independent” – more will surely follow suite- and THAT is going to create mega-problems for the Zionist- for then the white also see to it that his much needed tax money become ” independent” as well- leaving the Zionist to feed his own dark leeches- and that just ain’t gonna work. Thus- the “plan” is thus that the white cattle must at all costs be ” contained”, suppressed,opressed, demonized, robbed of their own free will and independence- and kept on “ground level” to be “manageable” cattle to milk for the ” greater cause“- feeding the masses. The other danger of this ” independence” nonsense- is that the white just might start his own micro economy, start his own defense force- and THAT pose the REAL threat for the NWO Zionist global plan. Thus- the Zionist use his media as effective as he can to psychologically demonize all white ” free thinkers” by slapping a bad tab to them….” right wingers.”
You see-how cleverly the Zionists use the Sandy Hook massacre- which THEY staged- as a trigger ( with enough media psi-ops)-to push ahead their one sided dubious weapon ban act-( aimed at white conservative ” right wingers” only) The main plan is to DISARM white Americans- like they disarmed white South-Africans. The only difference between the old ways and this vile new ways of the NWO- is that they try their utmost to demonize self independent conservative thinkers by using certain slang repeatedly in their NWO controlled newspapers and other media mediums. The Zionist do not want any ” free thinkers” running wild around the Zionist global chicken pen- posing a threat to their “ One World Order.” One “free thinker” is still “manageable” or ” Assassinatable” – but if that ONE ” free thinker” start to influence the rest of the retro-programmed chickens- there is going to be a problem containing too much “free thinkers” that opposes the new World Order “plan.” Each and every ” chicken” thus must think and act like they are being programmed- to serve their masters in Wall Street.
This also why I speculate that this whole farce “ right wing” spectacle in South-Africa was staged in order to “unify” the rainbow chickens behind the Zionist controlled ANC- and to keep the “evil” alive and well in order for the “good” to stay in power. The first “Boeremag” stunt was also such a ploy. On the end- after some ” sheeple” was jailed “awaiting trail” for ELEVEN YEARS- they were found ” guilty”. It was only THEN that the proverbially ” bomb” went “bang” when certain ” policemen” came forward and ” confessed” that the police was paid to lure white members into the Boeremag trail :
The simple question is why these policemen waited 11 years to “confess” thier dubious part in this set-up plot…this while some Boeremag members experienced the most haggard conditions in the prisons- and some died in prison? The same goes for Clive Derby Lewis- who the ANC said- ” will rot in prison.” Now these poor chickens are still in jail- awaiting the long audacious bureaucracy to either call a mistrial,keep them or free them. Like I said- this new “ Boeremag” plot stinks like a rotten fish that drifted from the ANC NI skunk factory again. I might be totally wrong- but I have learned that to predict the future- you only have to take a glimpse in the past- and the past concerning the ANC- is one helluva rotten dark affair.
01-11-2013, 05:52 AM #15
HA HA, yes,i love this post
01-11-2013, 03:39 PM #16
It is written like a joke, but funny enough it's true.
Mangaung trial postponed until 23, 25 and 29 January 2013.
Judge might be in Cape Town, might not be in Cape Town - therefore the different dates. Bail application still continue.
The only thing we heard so far of evidence is paper work.
The one accused have sent a e-mail to Adnre Visagie, he in return have sent it to Hein Boonzaaier who replied to Andre Visagie - armed conflict isn't the way to go. He even mentioned in the e-mail to Andre Visagie that he thought that Andre was cleverer than this nonsense to even want to think about it.
In Hein's reply on the e mail, he strongly detest the idea of an arm struggle.
The Police have apparently found Temik, some type of poison at Martin Keevy's property. Now it is ussed in the case that he wanted to poison the drinking water of Bloemfontein.
We know this product as two step - this is the product that burglars use to poison dogs.
01-12-2013, 04:08 AM #17
One thing i can see happening with this trial is that with the accusations that the KKK are involved,American organizations will pay more attention as there names are now being dragged into it.Stupid munts dont realize that with their mud slinging,they are actually making it easier to expose them for the propagandist lairs that they are.
01-12-2013, 11:43 AM #18
From the first contentions made in the case to those made yesterday this case has evolved into a laughing stock in the legal fraternity.
The police are making a joke of themselves.
01-12-2013, 06:41 PM #19
The South African Police aren't independent from the Political Party in charge of South Africa anymore - they became the tools of the President of the country.
(1) There shall be established and regulated by an Act of Parliament a South African Police Service, which shall be structured at both national and provincial levels and shall function under the direction of the national government as well as the various provincial governments.
(2) The Act of Parliament referred to in subsection (1) shall- (a)subject to sections 216, 217 and 218, provide for the appointment of a Commissioner of the South African Police Service (hereinafter in this Chapter called the `National Commissioner') and a Commissioner for each province (hereinafter in this Chapter called a `Provincial Commissioner'); (b)provide for the establishment and maintenance of uniform standards of policing at all levels regarding- (i)the exercise of police powers; (ii)the recruitment, appointment, promotion and transfer of members of the Service; (iii)suspension, dismissal, disciplinary and grievance procedures; (iv)the training, conduct and conditions of service of members of the Service; (v)the general management, control, maintenance and provisioning of the Service; (vi)returns, registers, records, documents, forms and correspondence; and (vii)generally, all matters which are necessary or expedient for the achievement of the purposes of this Constitution.
215 Powers and functions The powers and functions of the Service shall be- (a)the prevention of crime; (b)the investigation of any offence or alleged offence; (c)the maintenance of law and order; and (d)the preservation of the internal security of the Republic. 216 Minister and National Commissioner (1) The President shall, subject to this Constitution, charge a Minister with responsibility for the Service. (2) (a) The President shall, subject to section 236 (1) and (2), appoint the National Commissioner. (b) The National Commissioner shall exercise executive command of the Service, subject to section 219 (1) and the directions of the Minister referred to in subsection (1). (3) The President may, if the National Commissioner has lost the confidence of the Cabinet, institute appropriate proceedings against the Commissioner in accordance with a law. 217 Powers of provinces (1) The Premier of a province shall charge a member of the Executive Council of the province with responsibility for the performance by the Service in or in regard to that province of the functions set out in section 219 (1). (2) The member of the Executive Council referred to in subsection (1) (a)shall approve or veto the appointment of the relevant Provincial Commissioner in terms of section 218 (1) (b); and (b)may, if the Provincial Commissioner has lost the confidence of the Executive Council, institute appropriate proceedings against the said Commissioner in accordance with a law. (3) A provincial legislature may pass laws not inconsistent with national legislation regarding the functions of the Service set out in section 219 (1). (4) No provincial law may- (a)permit lower standards of performance of the functions of the Service than those provided for by an Act of Parliament; or (b)detract from the rights which citizens have under an Act of Parliament.
218 Responsibilities of National Commissioner
(1) Subject to section 214 and the directions of the Minister referred to in section 216 (1), the National Commissioner shall be responsible for- (a)the maintenance of an impartial, accountable, transparent and efficient police service; (b)the appointment of provincial commissioners, subject to section 217 (2) (a); (c)the preservation of the internal security in the Republic; (d)the investigation and prevention of organised crime or crime which requires national investigation and prevention or specialised skills: Provided that the Act referred to in section 214 (1) shall set out the circumstances which shall be regarded as organised crime and the circumstances which require national investigation and prevention or specialised skills; (e)international police liaison; (f)the keeping and provision of crime intelligence data, criminal records and statistics; (g)the training of members of the Service, including any municipal or metropolitan police services to be established; (h)the recruitment, appointment, promotion and transfer of all members of the Service; (i)the provision of forensic laboratory services; (j)such functions relating to border control and the import and export of goods as may be assigned to the Service by law; (k)the establishment and maintenance of a national public order policing unit to be deployed in support of and at the request of the Provincial Commissioner: Provided that the Act referred to in section 214 (1) shall provide that the President, in consultation with the Cabinet, may direct the National Commissioner to deploy the said unit in circumstances where the Provincial Commissioner is unable to maintain public order and the deployment of the said unit is necessary to restore public order; (l)national protection services; (m)the establishment of a special task force for high risk operations which require specialised skills; and (n)subject to section 219, such other functions as- (i)are necessary to achieve the objectives referred to in section 215; and (ii)are appropriate for the National Commissioner to take responsibility for. (2) The National Commissioner may after consultation with the Executive Council of the province concerned assign responsibility for any function set out in this section to a Provincial Commissioner: Provided that the National Commissioner shall ensure that sufficient resources are made available to the Provincial Commissioner for such purpose.
219 Provincial Commissioners
(1)Subject to sections 214 and 218 and the directions of the relevant member of the Executive Council referred to in section 217 (1), a Provincial Commissioner shall be responsible for- (a)the investigation and prevention of crime; (b)the development of community-policing services; (c)the maintenance of public order; (d)the provision in general of all other visible policing services, including- (i)the establishment and maintenance of police stations; (ii)crime reaction units; and (iii)patrolling services; (e)protection services in regard to provincial institutions and personnel; (f)transfers within the province of members of the Service performing functions in terms of this section; and (g)the promotion, up to the rank of lieutenant-colonel, of members of the Service performing functions in terms of this section. (2) Subject to sections 214 and 218 and the directions of the National Commissioner, a Provincial Commissioner shall be responsible for- (a)the maintenance and discipline of the Service in the province concerned; (b)the recruitment of members of the Service responsible for the functions set out in subsection (1); (c)such other functions as may be assigned to him or her by the National Commissioner under section 218 (2); and (d)subject to such procedures or mechanisms as may be established by the Board of Commissioners referred to in section 220(2), the transfer of members of the Service under his or her command to or from positions outside his or her jurisdiction. 220 Co-ordination and co-operation (1)A committee consisting of the Minister referred to in section 216 (1) and the respective members of the Executive Councils referred to in section 217 (1) shall be established to ensure the effective co-ordination of the Service and effective co-operation between the various Commissioners. (2) The Act referred to in section 214 (1) shall provide for the appointment of a Board of Commissioners, consisting of the National Commissioner and the Provincial Commissioners and presided over by the National Commissioner or his or her nominee, in order to promote co-operation and co-ordination in the Service.
221 Local policing
(1) The Act referred to in section 214 (1) shall provide for the establishment of community- police forums in respect of police stations. (2) The functions of community-police forums referred to in subsection (1) may include- (a)the promotion of accountability of the Service to local communities and co-operation of communities with the Service; (b)the monitoring of the effectiveness and efficiency of the Service; (c)advising the Service regarding local policing priorities; (d)the evaluation of the provision of visible police services, including- (i)the provision, siting and staffing of police stations; (ii)the reception and processing of complaints and charges; (iii)the provision of protective services at gatherings; (iv)the patrolling of residential and business areas; and (v)the prosecution of offenders; and (e)requesting enquiries into policing matters in the locality concerned. (3) The Act referred to in section 214 (1) shall make provision for the establishment by any local government of a municipal or metropolitan police service: Provided that- (a)such a police service may only be established with the consent of the relevant member of the Executive Council of the province referred to in section 217 (1); (b)the powers of such a police service shall be limited to crime prevention and the enforcement of municipal and metropolitan by-laws; (c)the said member of the Executive Council of the province shall, subject to paragraph (b) and the provisions of the said Act, determine the powers and functions of such a police service; and (d)the said Act shall provide that its provisions shall, as far as practicable, apply mutatis mutandis to any such police service. 222 Independent complaints mechanism There shall be established and regulated by an Act of Parliament an independent mechanism under civilian control, with the object of ensuring that complaints in respect of offences and misconduct allegedly committed by members of the Service are investigated in an effective and efficient manner. 223 Acts of members outside their territorial jurisdiction (1) No act of a member of the Service shall be invalid solely by reason of the fact that it was committed outside the province in which that member is stationed.
01-12-2013, 07:02 PM #20
Arbitrarily depriving an individual of their liberty is strictly prohibited by the United Nations' division for human rights. Article 9 of the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights decrees that "no one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile"; that is, no individual, regardless of circumstances, is to be deprived of their liberty or exiled from their country without having first committed an actual criminal offense against a legal statute, and the government cannot deprive an individual of their liberty without proper due process of law. As well, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights specifies the protection from arbitrary arrest and detention by the Article 9.
Most modern usage is about individuals, and there is a distinction between internment, which is being confined usually for preventive or political reasons, and imprisonment, which is being closely confined as a punishment for crime.
The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) is a multilateral treaty adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on December 16, 1966, and in force from March 23, 1976. It commits its parties to respect the civil and political rights of individuals, including the right to life, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, electoral rights and rights to due process and a fair trial. As of March 2012, the Covenant had 74 signatories and 167 parties.
The ICCPR is monitored by the Human Rights Committee (a separate body to the Human Rights Council), which reviews regular reports of States parties on how the rights are being implemented. States must report initially one year after acceding to the Covenant and then whenever the Committee requests (usually every four years). The Committee normally meets in Geneva and normally holds three sessions per year.
The Covenant follows the structure of the UDHR and ICESCR, with a preamble and fifty-three articles, divided into six parts.