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‘Polisie neem my kaal af’ – Die Beeld. ‘n Skokkende storie oor die stand van polisie mag teen weerlose mense in SA.
August 10, 2011 by McBrolloks ‘Polisie neem my kaal af’
Me. ­Marina Kloppers, wat glo deur twee polisiemanne gedwing is om kaal uit te trek.Foto: DEAAN VIVIER
Twee polisiemanne het ’n 23-jarige bemarkingskonsultant van Pretoria glo gedwing om kaal uit te trek sodat hulle foto’s van haar kon neem.
Toe sy vra hoekom sy haar onderklere moet uittrek, het een van hulle volgens me. ­Marina Kloppers gesê: “Tonight I am God.”
Sy het gister klagte teen die twee polisielede, vermoedelik van die Pretoria-Wes-polisiekantoor, aanhangig gemaak in verband met die voorval op ­21 Julie.
Kloppers het dié oggend omstreeks 02:00 saam met me. Charise de Wit (22), ’n vriendin, in Mayville, Pretoria, gery.
Hulle het nie by ’n rooi verkeerslig stilgehou nie omdat hulle onveilig gevoel het, het Kloppers gister vertel.
Hulle het gesien ’n polisie­motor agtervolg hulle.
Dié motor het hulle van die pad probeer dwing. Toe die polisiemotor langs hulle was, het Kloppers gevra of hulle eerder na ’n veilige plek kan ry.
Toe hulle by ’n vriend se huis stilhou, het die polisielede haar uit die motor gepluk, op die grond neergegooi en oor die teerpad gesleep, het Kloppers gesê.
In ’n stadium het een van hulle bo-op haar gesit en sy gordel losgemaak om haar te boei.
Daarna is sy en De Wit agter­in die vangwa geboender.
Die polisielede het langer as twee uur met hulle rondgery.
Uiteindelik is hulle na die Laudium-kliniek geneem.
Daar het ’n verpleegster bloed by De Wit getrek. Sy wou ook Kloppers se bloed trek, al was sy net die passasier.
Sy het aan die verpleegster gesê die polisiemanne het haar aangerand. Dié het gesê sy moet haar klere uittrek en toe met ’n digitale kamera foto’s van haar geneem.
Daarna het die verpleegster die polisiemanne geroep wat in die hospitaalkamer ingekom het terwyl sy net haar onderklere aangehad het. Een het gesê hy wil sien waar hy haar seergemaak het – sy moet haar onderklere ook uittrek.
Toe het hulle selfoonfoto’s van haar geneem, het Kloppers gesê. “Ek sal dit nooit in my lewe vergeet nie.”
Daarna is sy in die vangwa na die Pretoria-Wes-polisiekantoor geneem en in ’n sel gegooi.
Toe haar pa, mnr. Willem Kloppers, uitvoerende sporthoof van die Tshwane-Universiteit van Tegnologie, en vriende daar aankom, is hulle eers toegang tot haar geweier. Toe hulle uiteindelik by haar kom, was sy in ’n diabetiese koma.
Mnr. Kloppers het na die Eugène Marais-hospitaal gejaag om vir haar medisyne te kry en het dit in die sel toegedien.
Sy het nie daarop gereageer nie. ’n Konstabel het toe aan hom gesê hy moet haar eerder net wegneem, hy sal verantwoordelikheid daarvoor neem as iemand vrae vra.
By die Eugène Marais-hospitaal het sy op die medisyne gereageer.
Sy is nooit van enige misdaad aangekla nie, het Kloppers gesê. Sedert die voorval ontvang sy sielkundige behandeling en drink sy antidepressante, anti-angsmiddels en slaappille.
“In die dag is dit fine, maar in die aand wanneer dit donker is, herleef ek die voorval weer.
“Ek sal nooit weer ’n polisieman kan vertrou nie.”
Sy was bang hulle sou haar verkrag, het sy gesê.
Mnr. Kloppers het gesê: “Ek verstaan nie hoe enigiemand so iets aan ’n vrou kan doen nie.”
Ao. Annabel Middelton, polisiewoordvoerder, het gesê ’n saak van aanranding en onsedelike aanranding is by die Brooklyn-polisiekantoor teen die polisielede aanhangig gemaak. Dit sal na die Pretoria-Wes-polisiekantoor oorgeplaas word. Brig. André Wiese, Brooklyn-stasiebevelvoerder, het gesê van sy kant af sal hy alles doen om te verseker dat dit reg ondersoek word.
Naakfoto’s: ‘Polisielede weier om kollegas aan te kla’
Me. Marina Kloppers Foto: Deaan Vivier
Lede van die Brooklyn-polisiekantoor in Pretoria wou aanvanklik nie klagte van aanranding en onsedelike aanranding teen twee kollegas aanteken nie nadat dié twee glo naakfoto’s van me. Marina Kloppers, ’n deeltydse model, geneem het.
Kol. Sivanandan Moodley, stasiebevelvoerder van die Pretoria-Wes-polisiekantoor, waarheen die klagte verwys is, wou gister nie bevestig of hulle weet wie die mans is wat Kloppers (23) aangerand het nie. “Die saak kry die onmiddellike aandag wat dit verdien en ons gaan al die agterstallige verklarings bekom. As daar enige meriete in die saak is, sal die nodige stappe teen die polisielede gedoen word.”
Kloppers, ’n bemarkingskonsultant van Pretoria, en me. Charise de Wit (22), haar vriendin, het die oggend van 21 Julie in Mayville, Pretoria, gery.
Volgens Kloppers, die passasier, het hulle nie by ’n rooi verkeerslig stilgehou nie omdat hulle onveilig gevoel het, waarna ’n polisie­motor hulle agtervolg het.
Twee polisielede het hulle van die pad gedwing en albei vroue is in die vangwa gegooi en ure later na die Laudium-kliniek geneem om bloed te trek.
Daar het die twee polisielede Kloppers glo gedwing om kaal uit te trek en het foto’s van haar geneem nadat sy teenoor ’n verpleegster beweer het die polisie het haar aangeval.
Sy is toe na die Pretoria-Wes-polisieselle geneem waar sy in ’n diabetiese koma verval het omdat die polisie haar glo mediese behandeling geweier het.
Volgens Kloppers het lede van de Brooklyn-polisiekantoor Saterdag geweier om haar verklaring te neem omdat sy eers al haar getuies na die polisiekantoor moes bring.
Kloppers het gesê ’n konstabel het eergister weer eens geweier om die saak oop te maak, “want ek is mos gearresteer en het geen saak teen die polisie nie”.
Daarna het ’n senior offisier ingetree en klagte van aanranding en onsedelike aanranding is geopen.
Die polisie wou egter nie klagte van crimen injuria en onwettige arrestasie en aanhouding oopmaak nie. Die polisie het glo gesê dít is siviele sake wat afsonderlik verhoor moet word.
Me. Delia de Vries, die twee vroue se regsverteenwoordiger, het gesê ’n klag van poging tot moord word ook oorweeg omdat Kloppers mediese hulp geweier is en toe in ’n koma verval het.
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on August 11, 2011 at 00:55 | Reply Savage
As die polisie deel van die anargie in ‘n land is, gebeur die vplgende:
“Adjudication by an armed authority appears to be the most effective general violence-reduction technique ever invented. Though we debate whether tweaks in criminal policy, such as executing murderers versus locking them up for life, can reduce violence by a few percentage points, there can be no debate on the massive effects of having a criminal justice system as opposed to living in anarchy. The shockingly high homicide rates of pre-state societies, with to 10 to 60 percent of men dying at the hands of other men, provide one kind of evidence. Another is the emergence of a violent culture of honour in just about any corner of the world that is beyond the reach of the law. Many historians argue that people acquiesced to centralized authorities during the Middle Ages and other periods to relieve themselves of the burden of having to retaliate against those who would harm them and their kin. And the growth of those authorities may explain the hundredfold decline in homicide rates in European societies since the Middle Ages. The United States saw a dramatic reduction in urban crime rates from the first half of the nineteenth century to the second half, which coincided with the formation of professional police forces in the cities. The causes of the decline in American crime in the 1990s are controversial and probably multifarious, but many criminologists trace it in part to more intensive community policing and higher incarceration rates of violent criminals.
“The inverse is true as well. When law enforcement vanishes, all manner of violence breaks out: looting, settling old scores, ethnic cleansing, and petty warfare among gangs, warlords, and mafias. This was obvious in the remnants of Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union, and parts of Africa in the 1990s, but can also happen in countries with a long tradition of civility. As a young teenager in proudly peaceable Canada during the romantic 1960s, I was a true believer in Bakunin’s anarchism. I laughed off my parents’ argument that if government ever laid down its arms all hell would break loose. Our competing predictions were put to the test at 8:00 A.M. on October 17, 1969, when the Montreal police went on strike. By 11:20 A.M. the first bank was robbed. By noon most downtown stores had closed because of looting. Within a few more hours, taxi drivers burned down a garage of a limousine service that had competed with them for airport costumers, a rooftop sniper killed a provincial police officer, rioters broke into several hotels and restaurants, and a doctor slew a burglar in his suburban home. By the end of the day, six banks had been robbed, a hundred shops had been looted, twelve fires had been set, forty carloads of storefront glass had been broken, and three million dollars in property damage had been inflicted, before city authorities had to call in the army and, of course, the Mounties to restore order. This decisive empirical test left my politics in tatters (and offered a foretaste of life as a scientist).” The Blank Slate by Steven Pinker; page 330-331 Waar gaan dit eindig vir Suid-Afrika?
on August 11, 2011 at 10:56 | Reply McBrolloks
Waar gaan dit eindig vir Suid-Afrika?
Savage, mens kan net dink. As die SA Polisie die onskuldige burgers so behandel, en die brass nie juis veel wil doen om dit te ondersoek of te stop nie, dan is dit maar net ‘n kwessie van tyd voordat die polisie en die krininele een in dieselfde is. ‘n Mag wat veronderstel is om orde te handhaaf en wie se lede dan hulle mag gebruik om weerlose mense op sulke wrede maniere skade aan rig, sonder enige gevolge, stuur die boodskap aan die kriminele dat onskuldige mense nie meer beskerm word nie, en vrye tuikens is.
on August 11, 2011 at 11:03 | Reply McBrolloks
“The causes of the decline in American crime in the 1990s are controversial and probably multifarious, but many criminologists trace it in part to more intensive community policing and higher incarceration rates of violent criminals.”
Savage, lees bietjie hier:
“Perhaps the most dramatic effect of legalized abortion, and one that would take years to reveal itself, was its impact on crime.
In the early 1990s, just as the first cohort of children born after Roe v. Wade was hitting its late teen years—the years during which young men enter their criminal prime—the rate of crime began to fall. What this cohort was missing, of course, were the children who stood the greatest chance of becoming criminals. And the crime rate continued to fall as an entire generation came of age minus the children whose mothers had not wanted to bring a child into the world. Legalized abortion led to less unwantedness; unwantedness leads to high crime; legalized abortion, therefore, led to less crime.”
“In New York, California, Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii, a woman had been able to obtain a legal abortion for at least two years before Roe v. Wade. And indeed, those early-legalizing states saw crime begin to fall earlier than the other forty-five states and the District of Columbia. Between 1988 and 1994, violent crime in the earlylegalizing states fell 13 percent compared to the other states; between 1994 and 1997, their murder rates fell 23 percent more than those of the other states.
But what if those early legalizers simply got lucky? What else might we look for in the data to establish an abortion-crime link? One factor to look for would be a correlation between each state’s abortion rate and its crime rate. Sure enough, the states with the highest abortion rates in the 1970s experienced the greatest crime drops in the 1990s, while states with low abortion rates experienced smaller crime drops. (This correlation exists even when controlling for a variety of factors that influence crime: a state’s level of incarceration, number of police, and its economic situation.) Since 1985, states with high abortion rates have experienced a roughly 30 percent drop in crime relative to low-abortion states. (New York City had high abortion rates and lay within an early-legalizing state, a pair of facts that further dampen the claim that innovative policing caused the crime drop.) Moreover, there was no link between a given state’s abortion rate and its crime rate before the late 1980s—when the first cohort affected by legalized abortion was reaching its criminal prime—which is yet another indication that Roe v. Wade was indeed the event that tipped the crime scale.”
on August 11, 2011 at 11:22 | Reply Savage
Very interesting indeed, McBrolloks. I read a few years ago (I think it was in “Atlantic”), that if Roe vs Wade ever got repealed (which was what the republican right-wingers were propagating then), Republicans would not have a US president for decades to come – the reasoning was that women had had enough of being told what was good for them and what was bad. What are the tea-baggers after for the coming presidential election – do they still want to repeal Roe vs Wade? Probably to fucking shit scared to say that now, but once they get a Republican president and control both houses, they might just do that.
on August 11, 2011 at 12:05 | Reply McBrolloks
Yes Savage, the only people who can repeal Roe vs Wade is the Supreme Court. The president gets to nominate new justices when an existing one dies or retires. Right now it looks as if Roe vs Wade is going to stay for a long long time.
You are right. The right wingers don’t talk much about it during election campaigns, but right now they are, because they are in their primaries. It looks like an idiot convention when you watch these boobs try and debate certain issues. Right now they are all trying to win the religious vote, so all human rights go out the window. They believe America is a christian nation and the constitution was written with christian values and the government should govern according to christian laws. Basically, they long to live in the bronze age. These guys and gals have no idea what the USA constitution really means and stands for.
The Republican Party got hijacked by the Tea Party. So it is going to very very interesting to see who gets picked to run against Obama.
on August 11, 2011 at 12:23 | Reply Savage
“.. to see who gets picked to run against Obama.”
Bachmann or Palin? But before that happens I’m sure Jesus will interfere – He surely is not that malicious to allow the great USA get destroyed in only 4 years.