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2014/10/06, 07:47 PM #101
Dirk (DVR) het my netnou email gestuur.. Ek gaan maar copy daarvan hier pos...
My email in blue and Dirk's answer in red....
We are starting to formulate a plan. Seems the fast option is straight Dana left drop on leaf springs. That makes sense to me.
We have just now, on the thread, had a chat about using the normal Hardbody rear leafs with the addition or subtraction of blades to achieve carry capacity as needed up front. The important thing is that we can get it all in very fast, and then fine tune settings like the leaf pack to suite at a later stage. That way the car is off the road for as short a period as possible.Very important to get all ducks in a row , even the steering rod links to the steering box and connecting rod. Even the ball joints will differ Dana USA to Nissan Jap.
The question is now if you have a diff that will suite our needs. We are looking for a 4.88 ratio, or a diff that has seen better days that we can fit a re-gear to achieve the ratio we need. Looking for a 4.88 ratio in a Dana is a no no from the shelf. Thet standard 3.07 , 3.73 and rare is the 4.1 . all the others is regear on the Jeeps . The next think you must lookout for now is your with , and what are you going to do with the standard 5x114mm PCD on the rims against your 6x139mm.
Will you measure from where your rims bolts on to the other side so that we can look at what is the closes diff available.
2014/10/06, 08:26 PM #102
OK, based on the reply, it looks like one of the important things to get sorted is the width of the diff. We said we would use adapters to go from 5 to 6 stud. How much does this add to the width. Will we need to add spacers on the rear rims to make it the same as the front.
I don't have a problem adding a bit to get the tyres out of the wheel arches where they presently rub for no apparent reason. I saw today that the dust and mud had some new tyre marks on them, and this is just from town driving, so don't ask me where I got to articulate the rear end that much.
So what are the standard dimensions on the dana diffs? I can't seem to find my document with all the info Jelo posted on one of the threads.
Speaking of the man, see he has not been on for three days, and I believe he has a birthday coming up in the next day or two.....
We need to start making up a shopping list with dimensions/specs of what we need. What is standard off the shelf and what needs to be fabricated.
Re-gear set - 4.88
HB Leaf springs plus schackles
Rubbers and bolts?
Rose/heim joints for steering links
Leaf spring carrier front and rear
Wheel/rim adapters front
Wheel spacers on rear
Propshaft (can we use the existing prop and just have the Dana diff end fitted to suite)
Brake pipes to suite Jeep calipers and extended length needed.
2014/10/06, 09:09 PM #103
Take the narrow dana27 (1200), add a 2piece (50mm+50mm) spacer to get from 5 to 6 hole, and that add to 1400mm axle, same as hardbody. Regear to 4.88. American tierod doesent matter, because we just add onto draglink.
But the hilux axle still is easier
2014/10/06, 10:28 PM #104
2014/10/06, 10:44 PM #105
Just a gearbox swop. Nothing else.
Tensy ons n linker pampoen kry met dana, moet ons elkgeval gearbox swop.
Geen rem modifikasie
2014/10/06, 11:04 PM #106
Ok. Begin sal dan wees om diff met regte ratio in die hande te kry. Ratkas en transfer. Alles teen vergelykende prys van dana met regear.
2014/10/06, 11:48 PM #107
Oops vergeet van agter propshaft oor doen ook.
2014/10/07, 02:59 PM #108
Reenen, wat is die specs op die Gilo adapter? Watse clutch en starter werk nou daar? Gaan ek my Nissan starter en nuwe clutch net so terug sit. Of is daar nou flywheel en starter van Toyota wat daar moet in kom saam met nuwe clutch.
Het die Toyota ratkas slip joint op agter output shaft, of moet die nuwe propshaft slipjoint kry?
2014/10/07, 03:47 PM #109
Nissan starter, nissan flywheel, nissan pressure plate, nissan release bearing, toyota clutch plaat, kyk net of jy die 228 mm of die 240 mm het, jy behoort 240 te he, dan kies jy n toy plaat naaste daar aan, maar nie groter.
2014/10/07, 03:49 PM #110
Toy het slipjoint in prop, toy box het flens waar prop aanbout vir voor en agter box.
In my opinie is die toy box sterker as die nissan box. Beide die nissan en ford box is n swak punt.
2014/10/07, 04:31 PM #111
My clutch is nie eers a jaar oud nie. Nou net vir die eerste keer van ek die kar het, die clutch reg gekry. Daar is nog R1400 op die prys van die SFA.
Slip joint op voor en agter props met UJ's en flanges gaan amper 3K a prop draai. Hier is amper 7,5K net in die post voor ons ratkas en Gilo adapter gekry het, en dan nog nie eens die diff se prys nie.......
4 langer shocks nog so 5K. Leaf springs, seker so 1,5K. 3 x briek pype, 1,5K. Steering links so paar honderd......Ek beginne worry!!!
2014/10/07, 04:39 PM #112
Dit lyk so as of die Dana met re-gear gaan goedkoper uitwerk saam met sy rim adapters.
En die werk lyk ook baie minder.
Of dink jy ek gaan my geld terug kry op die ou ratkas en clutch om op te maak vir alles.
2014/10/07, 05:24 PM #113
Hoekom wil jy n ander clutch kry? Net clutchplaat. Lees my post bo. Clutchplaat kos nie eens R200.
Is die dana dif wat jy kan kry linker pampoen. Indisn wel, dan is dit die roete om te volg.
Liewe hemel, jy beplan al 8 jaar. Erens moet mens besluit neem en dan daarvandaan werk.
Kies n as, dan soek ons dit, en werk van daar af.
2014/10/07, 05:26 PM #114
Anders, ek het vandag by n hoop nissan hubs verbygeloop. As jy ander hub soek vir jou IFS en liewers dit wil regmaak, kan ek vir jou opstuur. Gratis.
2014/10/07, 05:39 PM #115
Hubs is minste van my probleme... Die wiele willie vorentoe wys nie.. Camber is op die regte wiel is op die oomblik so vér uit dat jy nie eers kan hoop om Castor te stel nie. Ek loop positive Castor op die regte wiel met amper 4mm se shims om die Camber te probeer reg kry. En Camber is nog steeds so half graad uit teen oor spec
2014/10/07, 08:45 PM #116
OK, ek hoor wat jy sê.. Hang af watse pryse ons kan kry op ratkas, aste (hilux of dana), kan dit dan amper die selle prys uit werk.
Begin eintlik weer van die hilux opsie hou.
Ek het ons local scrapyard gebel, hulle het gerolde Commander, en dis dit. Geen ou Hiluxes nie. Hy het wel divorced transfer case van ou Safari wat daar lê, maar die ding staan al vir oor die twee jaar daar. Hy dink die agter output is ook op die regte kant gewees.
Ek dink ek moet daar gaan rond krap en sien wat het hulle. Hy kan glad nie op enige van die diffs vir my sê wat is die ratios nie.
Is a Cruiser se diff te groot?
2014/10/07, 10:44 PM #117
Niks is te groot. Hoe breer hoe beter. Met die mod gaan jou sani lig, so breer is goed. Jy gaan net jou gearbox kan hou op linker pampoen, en meeste danas is regter pampoen, dit hoekom ek van hilux hou. Klaar regte gearratio, klaar 6 gat, klaar regte breedte. Dan het baie van die danas nog dromme ook voor.
So, as jy dana, wat linker pampoen het kan kry, beste opsie, indien nie. se ek hilux.
2014/10/07, 11:16 PM #118
Jeeps se Dana's is omtrent almal linkerpampoen sover ek weet.
2014/10/09, 06:25 AM #119
Kry `n kompleet stel diff`s voor en agter van `n Jeep. Tussen al die manne hier op die forum behoort on seker rims en bande met vyf gat of wat ook al te reel.
2014/10/09, 06:27 AM #120
O ja verkieslik `n Dana Hi-Pinion vir voor maak net die prop shaft hoeke beter.