Wat het Siener van Rensburg nie gesien nie? - Page 3
12-16-2013, 06:48 AM #21
Staan vas. Glo jy die probleme gaan ligter word?
12-16-2013, 07:03 AM #22
Wat Siener nie gesien het nie ASB!
12-16-2013, 07:19 AM #23
Ek glo nie in Siener nie PUNT! Ons moet loskom van hierdie goed. Ons het die Woord van God! Al het ek ook jare terug n boek vlugtig oor hom gelees, sal ek in die tyd waarin ons leef van dwaalleraars en false profete, Siener eerder ignoreer. As ek kyk na die vrug en tweespalk wat daarmee saamgaan sal ek almal eerder afraai om met hierdie skote in die donker saam te gaan, en eerder met vertroue in God Sy Seun Jesus te wandel ten einde nie mislei of onder God se strat te val nie. Staan vas
12-16-2013, 07:55 AM #24
.Kan iemand enige konkrete bewyse lewer waar enige van die soort voorspellings - Nostradamus, Siener ens - enigsins die gang van die lewe posetief beinvloed het! Wat is daar wat verhoed was d.m.v. die "voorspellings"? Meeste, indien nie almal, wat enige iets plaas waar hierdie "voorspellings" bespreek word doen so "after the fact" en probeer dan om gebeure te laat inpas by een of ander voorspelling. Terwyl so iets 'n mate van vermaak bevat doen dit fetmooinokkol om die gang van sake te verander. Die gene wat hulle lewens verwed op een of ander kwatrijn (quatrain / Nostradamus) wat meestal geen sin maak nie, is welkom om so te doen. Persoonlik dink ek dat indien ons die toekoms moes kon sien sou ons so geskape gewees het. Inteendeel, ek wil nie weet wat more gebeur nie - "It kind of takes the fun out of living". Maar, dit staan elke ou vry om te maak (en te glo) soos hy/sy/dit goed dink.
12-16-2013, 10:25 AM #25
Ek vermoed dat ek en jy dieselfde siening oor die siener visioene het. Maar die rede waarom ek dit hierdie keer toelaat is juis omdat die meeste van die sogenaamde voorspellings wat op grond van siener se gesigte gemaak is, juis rondom Mandela se dood handel. Dit is nou die beste tyd om daardie leuens aan die kaak te stel.
Dan is daar iets in Johannes wat my ook opgeval het. Joh_4:23 Maar daar kom ‘n uur, en dit is nou, wanneer die ware aanbidders die Vader in gees en waarheid sal aanbid; want die Vader soek ook mense wat Hom só aanbid.
Dit klink vir my of ons bevoorreg is om ons Vader in Gees en in Waarheid te ken. Ons wil hê dat almal dit moet beleef maar as ek na die laaste deel van die sin kyk, lyk dit nie vir my of dit almal is, wat Hom so ken en dien nie. Ek sien in die teks twee groepe. Aanbidders en ware aanbidders. EK verstaan dit nog nie maar ek weet dat ons nie net moet oordeel nie. Daarom voel ek dat ons ook die leuen vir die aanbidders moet uitlig.
Last edited by Lukas; 12-16-2013 at 10:27 AM.
12-16-2013, 08:48 PM #26
Jy is reg Lukas. As mense die tyd en effort wat hulle op hoorse spandeer met God en Sy Woord spandeer sal die wereld anders lyk.
12-16-2013, 09:54 PM #27
Ek sal graag 'n finale gevolgtrekking wil maak en die onderwerp afsluit. Om regverdig te wees teenoor Adriaan Snyman dink ek ons moet 10 dae wag. As die "Nagaanval teen die BLANKES" nognie plaasgevind het teen daai tyd nie kan ons aanvaar dat hy 'n vervalsing is.
12-16-2013, 11:45 PM #28
Waarom wil jy so streng teenoor hom wees. Gee hom 20 dae, ons wil tog nie druk op hom sit nie.
12-20-2013, 12:21 PM #29
Hier is 'n storie wat iemand vir my aangestuur het:
On Angry South African Expats
October 28, 2013 · by susanhayden · in Stuff
And it’s a curious thing, because if you’re really, really happy in your new home abroad and you’re really, really pleased to have left this cesspit of hell, why would you care enough to get so emotional? All that their comments told me (which were, unfortunately, verging on abusive so I had to trash them) is that they feel deeply conflicted about their decision to leave, and that my story of settling well and loving what this country has to offer seriously messes with their heads. And I can understand that – it must be a f#ck up of note to have convinced yourself that we were on the verge of apocalypse and that leaving was the only sensible option only to come back in December and find that your friends are doing very nicely in their holiday houses in Onrus, rump steak - although expensive - on the braai and Woolworths dips keep getting better.
And neither am I saying that some people don’t leave South Africa happily and settle well and never look back, but they aren’t the ones writing me cross letters. And I feel for them, I really do. For me, leaving South Africa permanently would break my heart. Maybe their hearts got a bit broken and the only way they know how to deal is by running the country down and calling those of us who still live here – or, god forbid, came back – names. A writer whose name I forget once said in a novel, ‘Africa is not easily forsaken by her children.’ I never forgot those words. For whatever reason, this country gets under your skin. It holds you in its grip, and I see a kind of emotional attachment I haven’t witnessed in any other place. A journalist friend of mine went to Australia to interview South African expats, and many had had to undergo some kind of therapy in order to come to terms with leaving. You hear of South Africans going down on their bended knees and kissing the tarmac when they get off the plane. I did it myself when we moved back permanently. Maybe it’s because our country has suffered so much, and we have witnessed its turmoil and anguish and then danced in its (rather short-lived) victories. Or maybe it’s something else; an intangible, indefinable quality that inspires this deep love and reverence.
And the thing is this: you talk about not being ‘free’ in South Africa. I lived in Sweden for eight years and as I ventured out, day after day, under a low-hanging grey sky to take my children to school in a gloomy, high-rise building where everybody I encountered seemed chronically depressed, that is when I felt unfree. Where there were so many rules I was afraid to do anything; where the weather was so crap we spent our lives watching TV, and where everybody lives for the end of the year so that they can get the hell out and feel like they’re alive. Now, I feel alive every single day. And it’s freaking awesome.
12-20-2013, 02:07 PM #30
Jy sien ...