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Olympic Gold--USA future--Chinese scholars.
Thread: Olympic Gold--USA future--Chinese scholars.
31-08-06, 09:28 #1
An interesting thread has been posted on-- www.targettalk.org. section --Shooters Lounge titled Olympic Gold.
This is why Target Shooting at SA.Schools must be encouraged and promoted if we are to improve our International successes.
This is why all committed shooters in SA. should endeavour to create partnerships and build the sport together with one another so that we keep the youngsters shooting when they leave school.
3 P Sporter Air Rifle is the saviour of our shooting codes in SA.
SA. Schools are on track.
Without participation at Schools the sport will die faster than we think is possible.
01-09-06, 09:34 #2
I support ADIV fully on this.
A POPE once said give me the young and we (the church) have them for live.
We better start looking after the schools and their programs.
The results may not be immediate, but in a (very) few years the other shooting codes will benefit from shooters developed at schools level.
I call on all shooting codes take hand with the likes of Mike Potgieter and other visionaries at schools and let our wonderful sport have a chance to survive!!!
01-09-06, 10:03 #3
The problem is we are preaching to the converted. The biggest problem is the children with airguns, blow pipes etc. roaming the streets, shooting pets and hunting in public parks.
My wife is a coach at schools level and I have been involved with the administration side up to SAARA level, Interpersonal politics is killing our sport.
Thus I went back to grassroots and now supporting the schools program further [snip snip ¤¤.
By boosting schools shooting on forums like this, I believe I contribute more to shooting [snip snip ]
01-09-06, 10:30 #5
Miskien is die oplossing om skaaphonde op te lei om hierdie groep aan te keer.
Iaan is &#039;n deskundige op honde, ons moet sy raad vra alhoewel jaghonde nie uitgeskakel moet word nie want die ouers moet ook opgespoor word--dan moet ons miskien vir Spyker vra om &#039;n nuwe afdeling te begin vir hierdie doel --as ko-ordineerder, met jou diplomasie, is jy die ideale kandidaat vir daardie pos,
Nie Louis nie.
01-09-06, 10:36 #6
I agree wholeheartedly with you. The shooting sport needs people like you and your wife and we are thankful for the work you do. I tried for two years to get the school my daughter attended to start shooting AGAIN. They have the .22 shooting range etc. but to no avail. I don’t have the 10m/ Olympic shooting knowledge to coach and the teachers are too busy with rugby, cricket, hockey and netball to worry about a sport that does not give the school “exposure.”
As far as politics are concerned, I have not seen or participated in a sport that has more politics than the shooting sport. It is a pity but a fact of life. GB
01-09-06, 13:45 #7
&#039;n Mens besef nie altyd hoe ander jou beleef nie. Dit is goed om te weet dat julle nog &#039;n goeie karaktertrek van my raak gesien het t. w. "diplomasie." Ek weet egter nie of dit sal werk as ek direk met hierdie kinders en hulle ouers moet kontak maak nie. Ek mag miskien diplomaties wees maar ek het &#039;n vieslikke humeur en ek sal hulle dalk te lyf gaan en dan gaan nog meer mense minder van my hou en dit sal ook nie bevorderlik wees vir die skietsport nie. Die voorstel aangaande Iaan se honde klink dood reg. As julle dan nou &#039;n beter ko-ordineerder gekry het, kan ons Alan fotos van hulle neem, voor en na Iaan se honde hulle beet gehad het en Spyker kan dit publiseer. Ons bring hulle dan voor Mihki om te besluit of hulle genoeg gestraf is en of hulle dalk nog gebyt moet word of net tronk toe moet gaan.
01-09-06, 14:51 #8
Gerrie, ek hoor wat jy s? aangaande jou humeur en dat jy dalk die ouens te lyf kan gaan. Ek dink Importer het dalk hier iets beet ( en dit is nie die kat aan die gat nie) As jy s? jy is nie die regte ou vir die werk nie sou ek s? dat jy 'n goeie inset kan lewer in 'n bre?r verband en dalk op 'n komitee of subkomitee vlak.
Hierdie idee om die jongelinge te help om die skietsport in skole weer op dreef te kry is goed deurgetrap in 'n vorige "thread".
Ek weet nie wat is jou tyd wat jy op hande het nie maar iemand toegewyd is nodig om hierdie aanslag ten volle te dryf.
Komaan Gerrie, grappies op 'n stokkie, doen jou ding hier.
01-09-06, 15:56 #9
Hoe hard ek ook al probeer het, kon ek kan nie belangstelling kweek in die presisie skiet dissipline nie. Inteendeel ek sien nie skiet as &#039;n toeskouer sport nie so ek kan nie langer as miskien 30 minute op &#039;n slag daaraan spandeer sonder om verveeld te wees nie. Ek sal uit my pad gaan om enige iemand te help op&#039;n FT of BR baan, waar my belangstelling is. Ek doen wat ek kan, waar ek kan, om mense se belangstelling te prikkel in FT. Meeste van julle sal verbaas wees om te wete wie het ek al aan FT bekend gestel of oorreed om Ft te begin skiet en nou nogal suksesvol is. Dit net so terloops. Dankie vir jou vertroue. Almal van ons besef dat ons die jongelinge moet betrek, soos jy tereg se, maar ons moet die ouers eerste bykom want hulle finansier die geweer en koeltjies, bestuur die kar en moet moed in praat wanneer dinge moeilik gaan. Dit is die ouers wat die "cheapy" springer koop(net vir solank) en vir boetman se: "Gaan skiet &#039;n paar voels Pa wil rugby kyk."
01-09-06, 17:02 #10
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01-09-06, 23:59 #11
All the good words about schools shooting.
What worked in my wifes case:
-Fanatical enthusiasm from the coach
-Good internal marketing (previous successes help a lot)
-Parental involvement (management of the "club" etc etc)
And a LOT of patience, thick skinnedness when others try to hurt you and perserverance to go on..
A keen eye to identify a potential shooter is of course the cherry on top!!!!
My wife has been coaching for the past 15 year, first smallbore now airrifle
03-09-06, 14:42 #12
Ek wil net iets by voeg by die politiek storie. Ek is self &#039;n skole skut.Vir my, wie die meeste spanning by die skole skiet veroorsaak is nie die skuts nie maar die skuts se ouers.
Ek se nie al die ouers is so nie, baie van hulle is rerig ondersteunend en doen wat hulle kan om te help. Dis net dat as iets skeef loop of die kind kry bv. nie span nie, spring die ouers dadelik op hul perdjie en verklaar oorlog.
Soos ek se, nie alle ouers is so nie!
04-09-06, 10:04 #13
Dit is waar ek probleme gaan kry met my humeur en diplomasie (gebrek aan) en darom bly ek liewer ver weg. Dis genoeg dat 98% van die FT skuts my haat.
04-09-06, 10:26 #14
I further read on the target talk forum that the Chinese have 8000 shooters, 3000 coaches and 30 shooting centre&#039;s and a sport psychologist at EACH school.
How I wish we (in South Africa) could get just a fraction of this kind of support
04-09-06, 13:10 #15
Julius Ceaser had a strategy which served him well but cost him his life with the senate and his best confidants. He believed that you ruled through devision. Currently the same trait is being applied in shooting sport. People cause divisions to crow rooster of the yard with little thought to the long term consequences.
If you take one pencil you will break it with little force but a bunch of pencils is a different story altogether.
To answer adrsny, it is possible to achieve such a dream but the differences must be put aside and a vision and mission set up to reach that common goal. It is correct that the youth is the mainstay of tomorrow&#039;s shooting sports but it is also true that there are youths in this country today with exceptional talent who is being influenced negatively in terms of participation and relationships due to divisions amongst adults and organizations.
Together shooting organizations will make an impact, devided they will rot away into oblivion with no-one a winner and the greatest looser will be the shooter and the parent who supports the sport.
My plea is simple, we need a single formal air rifle shooting body to administer air rifle shooting in SA as it is the shooting sport of the future where we can make our presence felt in the international shooting arena.
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