destekkk

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cevap:9 sayın bakan bir kişi 2 yıl 3 yıl veya 5 yıl evlıyse bu duzmece deildir barı bole bir duzenleme yapılabilir 1 aylık evliler ile 3 yıl bes yıllık evlilerden hangisi duzmece olabılır kı olacagını sanmıyoruz ama en azından kademelı bir duzenleme getirilebilir..

bakanın acıklaması ve cevaplarrr lütfen sorun

bunlar aklıma gelenler.. eksiklere kızmayın

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twitler cok az programa atalim biliyorum herkes bikti ama azaldigini gorurse bakan amacina ulastigini dusunecek

soru 6: sayın bakana özellikle vurgulanmalı bazı iller varki ilçeleri koylerı arasında 200 km mesafe var bunlar ayrı ilçelerde ev kurunca içleri rahat olcakmı derse girince ailesınımı düşünecek dersteki ögrencilerimi..

soru 3: sayın bakan öğretmenler boş boş oturmak istiyor dıyecek

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ayrıca ataması yapılmamış 9000 kişinin büyük kısmı zaten o 33000'in içinde. bulundukları ilde de norm fazlasılar.

Bakan sinif öğretmenleri fazla diyecek 4 4 4 ten dolayi bu bizimodua sucumuz degil

Mehmet Ali Birand @mabirand32gun

kesinlikle katılıyorum hocam size. son çıktığı programların hepsinde aynı şeyleri geveledi durdu. gazetecilerde konuya hakim olmadıkları için saf saf dinlediler söylenen yalanları. bence bu yalanları çürütecek bir yazı hazırlayıp katıldığı tüm programlarda aynı msj ı gönderelim.

arkadaşlar zorunlu hizmet affını soralım.

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soru4: sayın bakan bizden öncede özel sektör yoktu diyecek özel sektör eş durumuna dahil deildi diyecek

ekleyın bişiler

3 cevap: öğretmenler boş boş oturmak ıstemıyor zaten her ilde yeterınce derslık olsa fazladan bir suru ogretmene ıhtıyac var sınıf mevcutları avrupa veya dershaneler gibi 24 kişi olsaydı suan bınlerce ogretmene ıhtıyac vardı sayın bakan her sınıfa 80 kişi yerleştirip 1 ögretmen verınce ıhtıyac gorunmuyor

1. 33 bin ögretmen fazlası var dıyor bunlar oturup maaş almak istiyor

"Ogretmenler, hep destek istiyordunuz. İste destek. Bana soru yollayin, bu aksam 32. gun'de uzmanlara sorayim."

yukarıdakı metnı yollayın barı gazetecılere

arkadaşlar ortak bir metin oluştursak yine daha etkili olur

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adresleri bilen varsa eklesın mail yollayalım her programda sorulacak soru olsun en azından guzel bir metin hazırlayan varsa onu yollayalım..

cevap 5: bu adamlar bulundukları il içinde yer degiştirmesi hiç sorun olmazdı sonucta norm fazlası varsa bile bu adamlar kendı icinde yer degiştirecek.:

soru 8: özellikle il içi özür gurubuda dahil edilsin... il içinde özür gurubundan farklı koylerdeki farklı ilçelerde ki ogretmenlerde düşünülsün

cevap 2: birinci sınıflar arttı ama ogretmenler ders verecek sınıf bulamıyor her sınıfta 60 ile 80 arası ogrencı var

sayın gazeteciler yorumcular suna dikkat edelim... bakan her cıktıgı programda 33 bin pgretmen fazlam var bunlar oturup maaş istıyorlar dıyor aslında sorunun 4+4+4+ ten kaynaklandıgını saklıyor ornegın ankarada binlerden söz edıyor zaten bu kişiler 4+4+4 olmasaydı norm fazlası olmayacaktı yani 5 sınıf okutan ögretmenler şimdi sınıflarını ortaokula bırakmak zorunda kaldılar ve ayrıca sorun şu okullardakı sınıf ortalamaları 70 80 lere vardı bu ogrencıler yeterlı derslik olsa zaten 2 ye 3 e bölunecek ve ogretmen ıhtıyacı olacak sorun ogretmen fazlalıgı deil öğrencide ögretmende yeterli sadece okullarda derslik eksik bakana şu sorulmalı neden bunu dıkkate alıp okullarda ek bina veya kısa vadede prefabrik sınıflarla çözum uretmedınız 80 kişilik sınıflar neden var en azından o sınıflarda her okulda bes ogretmen ders verirdi ve sayın gazeteciler suna dikkat edin her ilin mem sayfasında sol köşede ogrencı ortalamaları bulunur bakan 24 kişilik sınıflar dıyemıyor her ilin ortalaması 40 45 i gectii bunları sormalısınız.. bu bilgileri gazetecılere iletelim adamlar ne soracaklarını bilsinler..

guncl

soru 5: ogretmenler il içinde özür gurubunda yer degiştiremedı ilde fazlalık var diye

1. CEVAP: sayın bakan bu norm fazlası sizin alt yapısını hazırlamadan getirdiginiz sistemden kaynaklı. 4+4+4+ sistemi ile 5 sınıflar sınıflarını ortaokula verince her okulda fazladan ögretmen oluştu.

soru :7 sayın bakan siz örnegın gecen yıl batmana bir hazıran agustos vs dahil 1000 den fazla sınıfcı yolladınız ama simdi bunlar fazlaya düştü norm fazlası siz bu planlamayı gecen yıl yapmamısmıydınız bir andamı yaptınız.

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soru 2: bakan bu yıl birinci sınıfların sayısı artı diyecek:

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