sen Almansın.. ve ingilizcen ilköğretim ingilizcesi gibi.. Türkiyeyle bi bağlantın varki burdasın ve doktoruda Türkiyeden arıyosun bu siteye girip Burun estetiği alanını bulup doğru yere konu açıyorsun ve Türkçe bilmiyorsun... ? ... interesting...:44:

yes, I need to send him pictures so he can send me a simulation... I got the simulation of baris cakir... it looks fantastic... but I think Naci Celik is better for a revision... P

I ́m trying to choose between Baris cakir and Naci Celik... baris cakir costs 2400&#8364; Naci Celik costs 3000&#8364; Well the prices are both ok. But who is the better doctor of them both? K

ich finde deine Nase auch nicht so schlimm aber verstehe warum du die Nase korriegiert haben möchtest . Irgendwie kommt mir dein Gesicht bekannt vor. Also ich überlege auch eine Nach-op in Türkei. Türkei ist der sicherste Ort dafür besonders Istanbul. Bei mir muß Rippenknorpel eingesetzt werden. Ich glaube eine große OP brauchst du nicht, denn die Stelle wo leicht rausguckt muß nur gefeilt werden. In Türkei möchten die Ärzte für Nachkorrekturen zw. 3000-5000 Euro. Ich würde an deiner Stelle die Bilder an die Ärzte schicken und auf die Antwort warten. Ich überlege mich bei Dr. Nazim Cerkes operieren zu lassen ansonsten würde ich dir Dr. Naci Celik od. Dr. Emre Ilhan empfehlen . Du mußt einfach mal nachfragen bei diesen Ärzten LG Cherry K

laugh I used the google translator to sign in... :) I heard about emre ilhan but i have seen a video of dr. ercan demiray on youtube and loved the noses he done... I would like to have the surgery in istanbul... but if the are better doctors in other citys I would fly anywhere :) I would like to see pictures... but i dont know how to send friend requests... thank you all very much for answering me, this is a big help... I would like to see more pictures of Dr. demiray... I hope someone of you knows hin

Arkadaşın ingilizcesine "ilköğretim ingilizcesi" diyen arkadaş, sana ne diyeyim ben bilemedim. Muhtemelen senden bin kat daha iyidir ingilizcesi. Sen yaz bakalım nasıl yazacaksın? Hadi yaz ve bize ne kadar iyi olduğunu göster! Kızın biri gelip yardım istiyor, ille altından bir şey arayacaksınız, ne kadar fesatsınız yahu. Nasıl insansınız ben anlayamadım? hayır burada tartışma çıkıp büyüyecek ve moderatör gelip kapatacak bu konuyu, bunu mu istiyorsunuz? Bir insan gelip yardım istiyor ve gereksiz şüphelerinizle bin pişman edersiniz insanı. bir siz akıllısınız zaten, kimsenin aklına gelmez değil mi google translate filan kullanmak? hı hıı. Yeter ya vallahi yeter. şuraya yaklaşık 5 senedir üyeyim, bıktım her seferinde böyle saçmalık görmekten. Birine yardım etmek istersin veya biri yardım ister, ama birileri fırlar oradan, saçmalar eder ve insanı bezdirir. her şeyde bir bit yeniği arayacağınıza lütfen kendinizden biraz şüphe duyun; acaba ben nasıl insanım diye! lütfen moderatör gelip silsin şu gereksiz mesajları, benimki dahil. kızın başlığını abuk subuk şeylerle doldurmayın, beni de yazmaya zorlamayın. Utanıyorum yahu sizin gibi insanlardan, yeminle utanıyorum. Bu gidişle ya sinirlenip sövdükten sonra banlanacağım ya da burada yazmayı bırakacağım. Sorry kayzee, I didn't mean to write here in Turkish but had to. Almost 5 years since I've been a member here, tired of seeing kind of crap. Somebody wants help for sure, and few people doubt about it, even through I don't understand why they do. I guess they thought that you are not German or making fun with us. Why in the world do people on here think like this, can't figure out. Well, I sent my email by pm. Feel free to send me mail if you need any help, I guess I'm gonna quit this forum, because can't stand anymore kind of bullshit.

I think he answered you because you were german.. he ignores me:) I have to pay 12500 tl.. which is very much.. K

Hİ Kayze I think Barış Çakır is better than Naci Çelik, cause, I saw pictures of Barış Çakır's many patients in this forum, I hope you give the right decision for you, good luck K

it's forbidden here but they can help you on msn :) K

Hey, Your nose seemed fine to me , but if you think you have problem with it, I can suggest my surgeon. He also does revision surgeries. His prices are quite cheap compared to other surgeons in Istanbul, but he's pretty good. I've sent friend request you to check my before after photos, though I didn't have revision. But I saw revision photos last year he had done, they were pretty good. His name is Fuat Yüksel, you can check his site from Google, send an email to him and ask revision before after photos and price. By the way, I don't find Ufuk Bilkay's nose jobs natural looking, but It's my personal opinion. I know few people had done revision after they got nose job at Bilkay's place. The other doctors which I can suggest are, Naci Çelik, Emre Ilhan.

açıkası bende şaşkınlıkla bu olayı anlamaya çalışıyordum, demekki tek şaşıran ben değilmişim, arkadaşa katılıyorum M mbildi

Von wem lässt du dich denn operieren? hast du vllt. msn oder so? oder en email adresse? Will mich auch so im januar operieren lassen...

İzmir Dr. Cemil Tugay, 3500 TL

I need a miracle It#s so hard to choose... Do you live far from Istanbul?

Wo kann ich denn deine bilder sehen? Grüße L

Hey... Did you find the right doctor yet? :)

hi kat. doctors: Baris cakir, Emre ilhan. Mesut ozcan You can come Bursa for operation or you can go istanbul. if you come here i can help you. L

Habe schon einen Arzt gefunden... Baris cakir... :) ja ich bin auch im Nasenforum unterwegs :) K

I just want to find a Doctor who is good at Operating noses which have already been operated. I can spend 5000 tl. IS that ok? The City where the Doctor is is nOt important. I am so afraid to choose the wrong doctor

Hallo kayzee, habe eine Nasen op. vor 6 wochen bei Ercan Demiray machen lassen. Kannst ja meine Bilder sehen. Hattest du schon mal von dem Arzt gehört? Wenn du fragen hast kann ich dir gerne beantworten. Leider habe die vorher Bilder schon gelöscht. By

All people saying Baris Cakir. But I don't know. good luck honey. Verite

This is my nose now...

I have send hin a email with pistures and he answerede 2 days later... he actually answers very quick...try it again. How much do you have to pay by dr avsar?

Sorry but I dont speak turkish at all... K

Katja, I just saw that Baris Cakir has shared your message on his facebook :) xxxxx Son düzenleyen: Moderatör: 1 Kasım 2011 kelebek_kiss

peach-icetea@hotmail. de This is my MSN adress... if anyone wants to help me please add me :) K

Ich finde die Nase nicht so schlimm.. kein disaster auf jeden fall:) sieht gut aus aber kann natürlich verbessert werden:) K

hallo kayzeee... habe auch eine nase op vor 1 jahr gemacht gelassen bei emre ilhan in istanbul... habe auch bilder im meine profile... wenn du irgend welche frage hast, kannst jeder zeit mir fragen.. grüßeee..:) K

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Can you tell me how I can see your pictures? :) . push ;

in adition, in my profile there are my nose photos.. you can see add as a friend. I will write english explanation after my photos for you

yeah I know.. it's very expensive but he is kind of popular in Turkey and I don't wanna run the risk of getting a bad nose:) and my skin is thick so I really need a good surgeon, so I think it's worth it. Anyway.. Im not going to Turkey to get a cheaper surgery :) I think they are better, that's the main idea but of course there are other good surgeons in Turkey as well who are cheaper.. but im not brave enough Of course baris cakir doesn't care about your nationality but I guess he want to get more popular in Europe.. and it's good for his career if people from Europe choose him.. but I don't know:) all the other doctors answered except him.. I don't know if we are allowed to write his e'mail adress here but I used bilgi@bariscakir.com.. but I don't care:) I've already chosen my surgeon

I can help you if you give me your e-mail adress :) Im gonna have my surgery this winter so I can meet you there if you need help! I'm gonna travel from Sweden with my dad. I speak german as well, so you can write in german if it's easier for you:) P pigme

I paid 4.500 tl in Bursa. Doctor name is Mesut Ozcan. Place name is Esteticare. L

Is there someone here who can show me before and after pictures of noses from baris cakir? I have got msn... :) . push ;

hi kat :) I read about write to your nose... this page has a lot of exegesis but if you look persons photos maybe you like anybodys nose... first you must look photos after you send messagges the owner of the pictures.. if yu want to look my photo you send offer to friendship request my englihs not good I hope tell to you :))

Hello my name is Kat and I am from Germany... I want to have a Rhinoplasty because my nose was operated 2 times allready and its still to big and wide... I have heard about Dr. Ercan Demiray... Could you tell me if he is a good doctor? I would love to see pictures of noses he has operated... I would fly to turkey in january... Please help me to find a good doctor for my third surgery... :) Ps. I don't speak a word turkish...

Sorry but I dont speak turkish at all...

I have decided to get operated by dr. baris cakir. I still need to talk to him again because i think my nose on the simulation still looks to big...

Hehe noch jemand der deutsch spricht :) toll :) woher kommst du denn? kannst du mir vllt. einen guten arzt empfehlen? L

Hiii:) Im from sweden and im also gonna have a nose job this winter:) Im trying to choose between Emre Ilhan and Ufuk Bilkay, but since you don't speak turkish you should prefer Ufuk Bilkay. He speaks english very well and he has patients from Sweden every month :) I have never heard about the doctor you were talking about:S so I wouldn't recommend him... A aslii

saçmalıyorsunuz, arkadaş Almanya'ya giden Türklerden üçüncü nesil büyük ihtimal ve ikinci üçüncü nesillerden Almanlarla kaynaşan evlenen çok var. arkadaş belliki Türk-Alman karışımı ve üçüncü nesillerin çoğu orada Türkçeyi bilmez hele Almanlarla evlendilerse. ya da oradaki Türklerle arkadaş ya da Türklerle evlenmiş bir aileden gelen Alman. kısacası neden ingilizce yazıyor? iingilizce iletişim dili, Almancaya oranla İngilizce daha iyi bilinir, buraya Almanca yazsaydı çok az kişi anlardı ama İngilizceyle çoğu kişiyle anlaştı..

İf you want you can watch these : http://www.youtube.com/user/PragoKlinik#p/u/12/s7G6mEd0POc http://www.youtube.com/user/PragoKlinik#p/u/17/iuAZlPWlrnA . push ; K

hello, if you are a natural nose if you want to dr. Abdülkadir Göksel K

Just by the way... I wrote in an easy english because not everyone speaks this language perfectly... I made my english diploma in one of the renomated universities in london... so if I would be you, I wouldn ́t assess anything without knowing the backround first... Just for you to understand, I live in Germany... I had to Rhinoplasties before and they didn ́t go as well a we suggested... So i started a research andlickely found out, that turkish doctors are very qualified in this theme. So I googledfurther and found this homepage. Whit a google translator I signed myself in, with a hope that someone is willing to help me with the difficult dessision to find the best surgeon for my problem! In case you wonder how I understud your really silly comments, I have a friend, she is turkish and translated me the fact! So if you cannot held me or you don ́t want to help me, don ́t waste your time on writing this senseless sentenses in my topic. güle güle K

I had an operation about 2 years ago for my nose. And I'm very very happy. When you come to İstanbul, you should has appointment with Naci Çelik. ps: sorry for my english. I'm in intermediate level

Hey... laugh Yes I ́ve just seen it aswell :) That ́s cute... The best thing is the comment: vay vay vay The turkish people here in germany say vay vay vay very often hahahaha K

hello, how dıd you wrıte here ıf you dont know any turkısh words... anyway, ı havent ever heard about hım. ın whıch cıty wıll you have an operatıon ın turkey? ıt ıs the fırst point, so you can choose the doctor to the cıty. M

Hey, you can see my pics in my profile. Click and check it out. Barış Çakır or Naci Çelik? I would prefer Naci Çelik if I were you. I guess he is an experienced surgeon than Barış Çakır. Also he has English videos on Youtube. Check them out. Barış Çakır is good too, But compared to Naci, I wouldn't choose Barış Çakır. But It's your decision after all :) Keep us posted. Good luck!

hi again. I'm sorry. I'm from Bursa. you must find friend from istanbul. I can help you just in Bursa. Do you have Turkish friend at Germany?

Did you contact with Dr. Naci Çelik? K

I don ́t understand how bored people can be and write stupid things here... Yes I live in germany. And NO I don ́t speak turkish... I signed in here with my freind... she speaks turkish... nothing is impossible... in germany we habe kadinlar kulubu aswell... this is how I have put pictures and stuff in here... if you don ́t believe me nasenforum. de - Die Community rund um die Nasen-OP. have a look. it ́s nearly the same... it makes me angry if people don ́t habe anything better to do then spamming my theme. leave me alone if you don ́t want to help. I am not stupid, this is why i figured out how to use a homepage in turkish... L

Türkıyedeki çoğu kişinin bıle bu sıteden haberı yok, dahası üye olanlar da konu başlığı açmayı, fotograf yuklemeyı vs. bılemeyebılıyor. Almanyadakı bir Alman bir Türk sitesini bulmuş, anlamış, dogru yere konu başlığı bile açmış, fotograf gormek vs. istiyor. İnternet cevırılerı de çok başarılı olmuyor, o yol ile de çok anlaşılacak bır şey degıl, zaten sonrasında bir Türk arkadasından yardım aldıgını öğreniyoruz. İlk bakışta hayatın olağan akışına çok uygun olmayan bir durum oldugundan ve fake uyelıklerden dolayı ınsanların şüphe duyması normal, ama bunu ifade ediş tarzı, üslup önemlı tabiki, zaten bunun karşılıgında kayze de bayagı bir yazmış aynı sertlıkte. Ama ınsanlar yıne de yardımcı olmuş. Sonrasında sorun çözülmüş. L

Bence sen ingilizceyle uğraşma almansınyaa Almanca bilen bi arkadaş gelsin onunla rahat rahat görüş... olmazmıııı K

belki birinin vasıtasıyla gelmiştir bilinmez

aus Schweden:) hehe.. ja, also gute Ärzte aus der Türkei sind; Nazim Cerkes, Yakup Avsar, Onur Erol, Emre llhan, Baris Cakir, Ufuk Bilkay usw. Ich werde mich auch im Januar operieren lassen.. meine erste op. Ich finde Yakup Avsar sehr gut aber bei ihm kostet die op. so wie 5000 euro.. :/ K

kayzee, you can find better doctors from ercan demiray. For example Naci Çelik or Hakan Gündoğan, Ahmet Karacalar, Barış Çakır vs vs

hi kayzee, I'm searching a doctor about my nose that need revision.. In my opinion and acording to researches Yakup avşar is more succesful.. his patients satisfied after his operation. But his cost is expensive. ıf you enter vimeo.com and you write his name , you can see before after photos. and at facebook he has a page. and some patiens share their photos.. Our operations are second and we have to making the right choose. how many years have passed from the first operation? L

du gehst einfach auf meine Seite, ich meine du hast meine Freundschaft angenommen. Siehe unten album. Ich warte im moment von meinem Arzt auf eine Nachricht. Er müsste nach Darmstadt kommen. Ich werde Anfang nächsten Jahres noch andere op. durchführen lassen. Liebe Grüße K

I hope you will get a nice nose :)! I chose dr. yakup avsar.. Im gonna get operated next month so wish me good luck.. All I need to do now is to buy a flight ticket and find somewhere to stay :) but don't worry for the size :) I think he did it big because he didn't know what you wanted the nose to look like. The "ideal" nose in Germany is not the same as in Turkey :) I guess that's the reason.. so you can still get a smaller nose I guess

What? Soooo expensive?! You don ́t even pay that much in Germany... wow... I don ́t think that dr cakir is looking on the nationality... maybe he is just very busy... which email adress did you use?

arkadaslar halen neden supheleniyorsnuz.. kiz cagiz yardim istiyor.. neden boyle yabanciymis gibi rol yapsin, eline ne gecicek? ayrica googlede dil ceviriden bi cok dili birbiirne cevirebiliyorsunuz.. turkce ceviri yapmis en son care.. mesela I yazarsaniz ben diye ceviriyo ama i yaparsaniz i seklinde kaliyor cevirmiyor google.. Bi kac supheci arkadas var onlarin supheleri yersiz.. yardim ediyorsaniz edin etmiyorsanizda kurcalamayin. K

did you find a good doctor? Verite

ı thınk good doctors are usually ın ıstanbul... naci çelik, emre ilhan, yakup avşar etc. are good doctors there, but theır prices are expensıve for you... necdet uçar is good too, hıs prıce ıs ok for you. ı researched the doctor here who you mentıoned, there ıs only a comment about hım and ıt ıs positive. firstly you must fınd the doctors' forum here. you wıll translate of course. find the nicknames of women who were had operatıon by those doctors, clıck the nicknames of them, you wıll see the choıce of add as frıend. add:) but ı thınk you have to wrıte 50? messages to the forums to see your frıends' photos ın theır albums... K

and what I don't get is; why doesn't he answer on my e-mail? I sent him pictures of my nose twice but he didn't reply.. did you send your pictures to his mailadress as well? or did you send them through his homepage? K