Appeal to tradition

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'''Appeal to tradition''' is a common [[logical fallacy]] that occurs when it is assumed that something is better or correct simply because it is older, [[tradition]]al, or "always has been done". In general, if someone's main argument in favor of their propositions/ideas is "traditional values", they likely don't have any better or genuinely rational arguments for their position. "Caring about children" is a very, very old traditional value, yet people speaking up against child abuse usually don't resort to this rhetoric, instead choosing more practical and immediate arguments.

The fallacy is the bastard child of the [[naturalistic fallacy]] and the [[appeal to authority]], and is thus an [[informal fallacy]]. Perhaps the people who most frequently fall victim to this fallacy are [[Fundamentalism|fundamentalists]].

The appeal to [[classical antiquity]], that if an ancient Greek or [[Roman]] wrote it, it must be true, is especially common among [[neo-Nazis]], and is uncoincidentally also popular with [[Elon Musk]].<ref>[https://pharos.vassarspaces.net/2019/04/12/ancient-roman-quotes-on-notorious-nazi-website/ Ancient Roman Quotes on Notorious Nazi Website] by Curtis Dozier (April 12, 2019) ''Pharos''.</ref><ref>[https://pharos.vassarspaces.net/2025/01/31/elon-musk-nazi-salute-classics-roman-empire-latin/ When the Richest Man in the World Loves Classics] by Curtis Dozier (January 31, 2025) ''Pharos''.</ref>

==Alternate names==
*''Argumentum ad antiquitatem''
*Appeal to age/antiquity/antiquity
*Appeal to common practice
*Past practice
*[[Appeal to ancient wisdom|Traditional wisdom]]
*Proof from tradition

==Structure==
This sort of reasoning has the following form: 

#'''P''' has been done for a long time.
#([[Enthymeme]]) Things that have been done for a long time are true/good.
#'''P''' is true/good.

People often prefer to stick with things that they are familiar with, things they have grown up with, or things that society says "we have always done".  

Individuals may believe that "time tested" means "factual" and that "better people than I" were the ones who originally decided a thing, and "if it were wrong, it would have been challenged by now".  Tradition is often linked quite closely with "authority".

The opposite of an appeal to tradition is an [[appeal to novelty]], claiming something is good because it is new.

==Examples==
*[[Alternative medicine]] uses this extensively — a common argument in favor of practice is that it has an extensive history.
*[[Appeal to nature]] can be thought of as the chthonic version of this.
*[[Gay marriage]] is a bad idea because it has no historical precedent.
*[[Kinder, Küche, Kirche|Women should stay at home]] because women have always stayed at home.
*[[Pedophilia]] apologists sometimes argue that the modern convention of the age of consent should be abolished or radically lowered, because sex with children was a common practice in ancient Greece (or wherever). 
*Country Time Lemonade slogan: “Just like grandma used to make.”
*"[[Circumcision]] is good because all my ancestors did it."<ref>Dave Rubin Clips (October 5, 2022). [https://twitter.com/DaveClips/status/1577711262825603075 "Dave Rubin and Dennis Prager talk about the importance of 'Bris' (religious male circumcision ceremony): From a secular point of a view, it's a crazy thing to do, but it's been happening for 4000 years, so they must be doing something right!"]. Twitter.</ref>
* ([[Young Earth creationism|Young Earth]]) [[Creationism|Creationists]] frequently resort to this argument to promote the idea that their viewpoint should be a mandatory part of [[Scientific creationism|science]] in schools, a former practice that wasn't totally refuted until ''[[McLean v. Arkansas Board of Education]]'' in 1981.

===Obvious "fails" using appeal to tradition===
*[[Slavery]] has been around for a very long time. Legalize it already!
*[[Geocentrism]] has been held as true for a long time. [[Teach the controversy]]!
*The idea of the [[Flat Earth]] is much older than the idea that the [[Earth]] is round; let's see if it works.
*On a similar note, the belief that everything revolves around the Earth because ''our'' planet is obviously the most important thing in the universe. [[Nicolaus Copernicus|Any and all]] [[Galileo Galilei|dissenters]] should be [[Roman Catholic Church|censored]], because obviously [[Irony|that'll work out]].
*[[Bloodletting]], [[mercury#woo|mercury]], [[lead]], and [[asbestos]] were used medicinally for millennia. [[Naturopath]]s should rediscover them.
*[[Tobacco#Traditional use|Tobacco]] was part of [[Native American|indigenous American]] medicine for centuries, so it must be good, right?
*[[Women]] have continuously been treated like second class citizens in certain parts of the world. They should continue to be treated this way.<ref group=note>Though some feminist groups actually argue that there was some kind of matriarchy before any written records and the Neolithic revolution — which makes it an appeal to a conveniently [[unfalsifiable]] "tradition".</ref>
*[[Human sacrifice]] has been a tradition in cultures all over the world; let's bring it back!
*[[Birthwort]] &mdash; an herb that has been used since at least 300 BCE, whose extreme toxicity was not discovered until the end of the 20<sup>th</sup> century CE. [[Bullshit|So there must be something to it, right?]]
*[[Child labour]] has been used for centuries in numerous countries all around the world. Why shouldn't we revoke the ban on it?

==Exceptions==
* Since false ideas tend to be rooted out over time, the persistence of an idea can provide some ''tentative'' evidence for its credibility. Tradition functions as a crude form of [[reproducibility|replication]]. <!-- an example would be nice here. Can't think of one myself -->
* An appeal to common practice can be valid if the cost of abandoning the practice or switching to an alternative outweighs the benefits of doing so. For example, re-defining the direction of the flow of current in electrical circuits to match the direction of the flow of electrons might aid education by reducing confusion, but doing so would come with the significant cost of re-writing text books and translating any scientific material that covered the topic.<ref>[http://nizkor.com/features/fallacies/appeal-to-tradition.html Fallacy: Appeal to Tradition]</ref><ref>[http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/43-appeal-to-tradition Appeal to Tradition]</ref> This phenomenon is surprisingly common in setting standards and technical development and is known as path dependency. As an interesting aside, in certain limited circumstances, it is actually more convenient to conceive of the current as a flow of positively-charged "holes", which are simply the absence of an electron.
* In [[common law]] — and to a lesser extent in Civil Law derived from the ''Code Napoleon''<ref group=note>and thus ultimately the Roman law tradition</ref> — there is an emphasis on ''precedent'', i.e. the way similar cases were handled by other equal-ranking or higher courts. This system has obvious upsides, as can be seen by the [[Chinese]] law system that does not have any strong regard for precedent. In some cases, the principle of ''stare decisis''<ref group=note>keeping decided questions the way they are</ref> and precedent are thrown out of the window as the circumstances have changed or the law is interpreted differently. If something like this happens, "originalists" like [[Antonin Scalia]] howl.<ref group=note>Unless, of course, precedent was overturned ''in favor of the Republicans''.</ref>
* Societies where [[Ten_Commandments#Second_Commandment|graven images]] are frowned upon generally make do with line and colour, rather than skate too close to [[Reality|realistic]] [[Deceit|rendering]] with all those shades of grey, which has led to some surprisingly creative and beautiful pieces of artwork being created.

==See also==
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*[[Actions which demand the death penalty in the Old Testament]]
*[[Appeal to age]]
*[[Appeal to ancient wisdom]]
*[[Chivalry]]
*''[[Daily Mail]]''
*[[Family values]]
*[[Good old days]]
*[[Hindutva]]
*[[Homophobia]]
*[[Religious freedom]]
*[[Slavery in the Bible]]
*The [[Traditional Values Coalition]]
}}

==External links==
*[https://fallacyinlogic.com/appeal-to-tradition-fallacy-definition-and-examples/ "Appeal to Tradition Fallacy: Definition and Examples"], ''Fallacy in Logic''
*[https://iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#TraditionalWisdom Fallacies: Traditional Wisdom], ''Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy''
*{{wpa|Appeal to tradition}}
*[https://www.thoughtco.com/appeal-to-age-fallacy-250345 "Appealing to Tradition Fallacy"], ''ThoughtCo.''
*[http://nizkor.com/features/fallacies/appeal-to-tradition.html "Fallacy: Appeal to Tradition"], ''The Nizkor Project''

==Notes==
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==References==
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