Tankies

{{communism}}'''Tankies''' are leftists who engage in blind apologia for left-wing authoritarian governments, such as those of [[Mao]]'s [[China]] and [[Stalin]]'s [[Soviet Union]]. The term began as an insult among Communists to describe those who supported the Soviet Union "sending tanks" to places like [[Hungary]] in 1956 and [[Czechoslovakia]] in 1968,<ref>[https://www.dictionary.com/e/politics/tankie/ tankie] dictionary.com</ref> although it has since expanded its meaning quite a bit. As Owen Hatherley noted in an article on the topic:

{{quotebox|‘Tankie’ being used on the internet half a century later as a blanket term for ‘Marxist’ is an example of the trivialisation of political language. It is akin to the use by [[Labour Party]] staffers of ‘[[Trot]]’ to mean, in their words, ‘anyone to the left of Gordon [Brown]’.

Beyond these particularly dumb uses, ‘tankie’ has come to mean something quite specific, interchangeable with ‘campist’ (whose origins are in the Stalin-era definition of a ‘socialist camp’ and an ‘imperialist camp’). Campism, or tankiehood, is generally reducible to a willingness not just to take a pacifist or ‘plague on both your houses’ position on certain international disputes, but to openly and enthusiastically side with whichever camp is in opposition to the United States.

This can lead to apologism at best and enthusiasm at worst for violent capitalist rulers, from [[Muamar Ghaddafi]] to [[Bashar al-Assad]] to [[Vladimir Putin]].{{efn|Apologism, in this context, being a defense of these rulers which goes beyond mere arguments against United States intervention or questioning claims extreme claims made by the west about their leadership. There is a difference between acknowledging these people aren't evil incarnate and saying they are the geopolitical good guys in their respective conflicts.}} However, this sort of tankiehood tends to have a focus on imperialism and ‘racial capitalism’, with roots much more in [[Maoism]] or 1970s ‘third worldism’ than in the pro-Soviet trends of west [[European]] communist parties. It can be seen in the online cult of once-forgotten books such as J Sakai’s vituperative Maoist history of the American white working class, ''Settlers''{{efn|Full title: ''Settlers: The Mythology of the White Proletariat''}}.<ref>[https://www.redpepper.org.uk/political-parties-and-ideologies/history/key-words-tankie/ Key words: Tankie] Red Pepper</ref>}}

==What a tankie is not==
[[File:Screenshot 2024-11-01 5.15.08 PM.png|165px|thumb|right|Image BadMouse shows.<ref name=BM>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IOAbbaGNc4 The Problems with Tankies] YouTube</ref>]]
In order to clearly explain what a tankie is, one must have an understanding of what a tankie is not. This is important because many tankies will attempt to argue that the term applies to a series of important figures throughout both left-wing history and world history more generally, therefore claiming that disagreement with them is in some way disagreement with leftism itself. Mind you, disagreement among leftists, even with important leftist figures, goes back as far as leftism itself. [[Karl Marx]] himself even quipped that he was "not a Marxist" specifically in response to seeing how early members of the left were applying his ideas,<ref>[https://libcom.org/forums/thought/im-not-a-marxist I'm not a marxist?] libcom.org</ref> and his 1847 work ''The Poverty of Philosophy'' existed to criticize the arguments of another important leftist, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. As such, the notion that important figures from leftist history believing certain things therefore meaning we should believe those things is not only logically nonsensical (smart people can believe incorrect things) but also is, funnily enough, against the history of leftism.

BadMouse, a leftist YouTuber, specifically took note of an image which made exactly this point in his video on the topic. However, he noted some of the people (such as [[Malcolm X]]) were not even communists and others (like [[W. E. B. Du Bois]]) are only included on the basis of them having praised leaders under very specific circumstances which tankies mindlessly defend.{{efn|Du Bois's most famous praise of Stalin happened shortly after his death in 1953,<ref>[https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/biographies/1953/03/16.htm On Stalin] Marxists.org</ref> three years before the [[Khrushchev]] Thaw which is responsible for much of the information we have about the brutality of Stalin's government began.<ref>[https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Khrushchev_Thaw The Khrushchev Thaw] New World Encyclopedia</ref>}} Lastly, several of the people were famous for engaging in forms of left-wing politics totally unrelated to their opinions on the Soviet Union, meaning even if their ideas fall under the definition of a "tankie," it has nothing to do with their successes in life.<ref name=BM/>

For point of comparison, attempts to label certain popular leftists from the 20th century as tankies has about as much validity as [[Answers in Genesis]] trying to claim [[Isaac Newton]] as a [[young earth creationist]].<ref>[https://answersingenesis.org/creation-scientists/profiles/sir-isaac-newton/?srsltid=AfmBOoqmJSLGlQh_bXsSgtxdssW1gNcjIVqspr_cz-A0V85muHg50QmE Sir Isaac Newton (1642/3–1727)] Answers In Genesis</ref> Even if his views do fit the technical definition, although even many creationists are unsure of that,<ref>[https://creation.com/isaac-newton Isaac Newton—friend or foe to biblical creation?] creation.com</ref> it would still be somebody in a totally different time and place who contributed to the world in ways which had nothing to do with their alleged views.

One example of a leftist who actually uses this rhetorical trick is Hakim, who argued in his video on the topic that the term is really only used to criticize any and all Marxist-Leninists, specifically non-white ones outside of the first world, specifically those who have something positive to say about older examples of socialism. His evidence for people using the word in this manner is non-existent, and the most he can do is vaguely gesture at certain groups of highly online [[liberals]] who claim this or that because of something they saw on Twitter.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcJ5NrJtQ8g What are tankies? (why are they like that?)] YouTube</ref>

Obviously a tankie is not merely somebody who "defends" this or that socialist nation from criticisms, if a critique is incorrect it is always worthwhile to argue against it, nor even people who take inspiration from problematic historical figures in leftist history, but specifically somebody who blindly defends authoritarian leftism regardless of what information is brought forward. Saying the [[United States]] engaged in many of the same human rights abuses it accused the Soviet Union of doing during the [[Cold War]] or that western governments put out sometimes very incorrect claims about their opponents in order to get the public on their side does not make one a tankie, saying said left-wing governments were justified in their human rights abuses does or pretending the Soviet Union did not do the same does.

==What a tankie is==
As mentioned previously, the term was first used by leftists against defenders of the Soviet invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia, however the term did not gain mainstream popularity until the 1980s, when it was used in ''[[The Guardian]]'' to describe those who wrote for the newspaper ''Morning Star'', which uncritically supported the Soviet Union's invasion of [[Afghanistan]].<ref>[https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2016/08/what-are-trots-and-tankies What are “Trots” and “Tankies”?] The New Statesman</ref>{{efn|Some have claimed an article which mentioned this in 1985 was the first time that the term "tankie" was used by a mainstream article, although that is untrue.<ref>[https://hatfulofhistory.wordpress.com/2020/01/27/tankie-the-origins-of-an-epithet/ Tankie: The origins of an epithet] Hatfulofhistory</ref>}}

This is important because it reveals the main distinction between tankies and other leftists, they believe in things that nobody else on the left would find justifiable if done by a non-socialist nation, and commonly have the same reactionary politics those on the right are derided for. For example, tankies will often defend acts of imperialism engaged in by China as being in response to American aggression. The tankie habit of engaging in [[antisemitism]] serves as a good example of this.<ref>[https://newvoices.org/2018/06/26/socialist-circles-have-an-anti-semitism-problem-theyre-called-tankies/ Socialist Circles Have an Anti-Semitism Problem – They’re Called Tankies] New History</ref> The Anarchist Library even contains an entire essay discussing the willingness of tankies to work with reactionary world leaders as long as they are against the [[West]].<ref>[https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/various-authors-always-against-the-tanks Always Against The Tanks: Three Essays on Red Nationalism] The Anarchist Library</ref>

This mindless hostility towards Western governments is a common trend among tankies. Of course, all consistent leftists should be very critical of the West, nobody is denying that, but tankies are infamous for their willingness to support anybody and everybody who serves as a geopolitical foe for western nations. See, for example, [[Caleb Maupin]] saying he is fine with working alongside the famously antisemitic [[Louis Farrakhan]] because both were against the [[NATO]]-backed removal of [[Muammar Gaddafi]].<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8OsvahWWzw Abandoning counter-revolutionary SLIME and adopting Maupin-thought!] YouTube</ref>

An analysis of [[ideological]] subreddits on [[Reddit]] found that self-identified tankies tended to be more insular than other [[far-left]] subreddits.<ref name=balci>[https://gnet-research.org/2023/10/02/tankies-a-data-driven-understanding-of-left-wing-extremists-on-social-media/ Tankies: A Data-driven Understanding of Left-Wing Extremists on Social Media] by Utkucan Balci et al. (2<sup>nd</sup> October 2023) ''Global Network on Extremism and Technology''.</ref> Bear in mind that the use of self-identification in analysis can be misleading,<ref>[https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/2020/02/18/assessing-the-risks-to-online-polls-from-bogus-respondents/ Assessing the Risks to Online Polls From Bogus Respondents] by 
Courtney Kennedy et al. (February 18, 2020) ''Pew Research Center''.</ref> for example it can miscategorize actual communists who do not identify as tankies but nonetheless have tankie viewpoints, or self-identified tankies who are just [[trolls]]. The analysis identified the following characteristics of self-identified tankies:<ref name=balci/> 
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*Acceptance of [[Chinese Communist Party]] narratives
*[[Stalinist]] leanings, including engaging in [[denialism]] (particularly [[genocide]] denial) of the atrocities committed by the Stalin regime
*[[Vatnik|Acceptance of the Russian narrative]] for the [[Russian invasion of Ukraine]] (despite claiming they don't support Russia)
*Anti-[[Zionist]] leanings
*Anti-anarchist sentiment
*Apologia for totalitarian dictators
*Pejorative ''[[ad hominem]]'' [[snarl word|terms]] for other ideologies ('anarkiddies' for [[anarchists]], 'succdems' for [[Social democracy|socdems]], 'westoids' for [[Western world]] supporters, and 'libshits' for [[liberals]])
*Leaning towards state-sponsored media and other sources like [[The Grayzone]]
*Dismissing any and all uprisings against a totalitarian dictator as a "CIA/Western backed colour revolution"
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==Online hangouts==
For their analysis of left-wing extremists, Balci et al. identified the following [[subreddit]]s as being tankie hangouts based on cluster analysis:<ref name=balci/>
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*r/asktankies<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/asktankies/ r/asktankies] ''Reddit''.</ref>
*r/sendinthetanks<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/sendinthetanks/ r/sendinthetanks] ''Reddit''.</ref>
*r/GenZedong (quarantined by Reddit starting in 2023 for "high volume of information not supported by credible sources")<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/ r/GenZedong] ''Reddit'' (archives).</ref>
*r/GenZhou (banned starting in 2023 for "creating or repurposing a sub to reconstitute or serve the same objective as a previously banned or quarantined subreddit"), presumably it was r/GenZedong<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220401000000*/https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZhou/ r/GenZhou] ''Reddit'' (archives).</ref>
*r/InformedTankie (disappeared, only one archived copy from 2022, with minimal content)<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220506225721/https://www.reddit.com/r/BunkerTube/ r/InformedTankie] ''Reddit'' (archived from May 6, 2022).</ref>
}}
Following the closure of r/GenZedong and r/GenZhou, members from the two groups formed [[Lemmygrad]].<ref name=balci/>

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