Rejected by their own kind

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[[Quack]]s and pseudoscientists are said to be '''rejected by their own kind''' when they advance a claim so obviously bogus, even other promoters of the same pseudoscience can tell that it's bogus, and publicly go out of their way to debunk it. As [[Mark Hoofnagle]] pointed out in 2007, this is relatively uncommon; [[cranks]]/pseudoscientists/quacks tend to stand by each other and defend their claims much more often than not.<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2007/05/29/cranks-are-rarely-bothered-by/ Cranks are rarely bothered by other cranks], Denialism Blog, ScienceBlogs, May 29, 2007, Mark Hoofnagle</ref> Such condemnation can therefore be seen as an unusual example of a crank being a [[stopped clock]] and recognizing exceptionally obvious [[bullshit]].

==Examples==
*Some [[Young Earth Creationists|young-Earth creationists]] (notably [[Kent Hovind]]) have made claims so absurd (e.g.: that there's too much dust on the surface of the [[Moon]] for the Moon to be 4.5 billion years old) that [[Answers in Genesis]] (AIG), a young-Earth creationist organization, has debunked them and urged other creationists not to use them.<ref>[https://answersingenesis.org/kids/astronomy/moon-dust-argument-no-longer-useful/ Moon Dust Argument No Longer Useful], ''Creation'', September 1993, p. 22</ref> AIG has also disowned other thoroughly bogus creationist chestnuts like "[[How come there are still monkeys?]]"<ref>[https://answersingenesis.org/creationism/arguments-to-avoid/ AIG's list of arguments to avoid]</ref> Even the aformentioned Hovind acknowledges that Earth is a sphere [[Heliocentrism|that orbits the sun]] and that space actually exists, unlike [[Flat Earth|some other folk]].
*[[Judy Wood]]'s "theory" about a ''[[Star Wars]]''-style directed space weapons being responsible for [[9/11]] (yes, seriously) was so ridiculously implausible that another 9/11 truther debunked it.<ref>[http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/b/scientific-critique-of-judy-woods-paper-star-wars-beam-weapons-by-james-gourley.pdf "Scientific Critique of Judy Wood’s Paper 'The ''Star Wars'' Beam Weapon'"], James Gourley, ''[[Journal of 9/11 Studies]]''</ref>
*The pseudoscientific claim, pushed by [[Mark Geier]], that [[Lupron therapy|Lupron]] (used for chemical [[castration]]) can be used to effectively treat alleged [[Anti-vaccination movement#Autism|vaccine-caused autism]], was so bogus that even the [[anti-vaccine]] blog [[Age of Autism]] once condemned it.<ref>[https://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2009/05/20/bravo-age-of-autism/ Bravo Age of Autism], LeftBrainRightBrain, 2009-05-20</ref>
*[[NaturalNews]] counts as a quack site in the eyes of other quacks.<ref>[http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/616-special-report-the-legend-of-mike-adams-and-the-reality.html Special Report: The Legend of Mike Adams and the Reality] (Thomas Corriher and Sarah Cain, ''The Health Wyze Report'', 06 Feb 2013).</ref>
*Some [[conspiracy theory|conspiracy theorist]]s, such as [[Alex Jones]], have criticized [[David Icke]]'s [[reptilian]] conspiracy theory.<ref>Paul Simpson, ''That's What They Want You to Think: Conspiracies Real, Possible, and Paranoid'' (Zenith Press, 2012), p. 177.</ref>
*To some extent, when politicians condemn another politician in their own party (e.g. [[Republicans]] in the [[United States]] condemning [[Donald Trump]] or [[Roy Moore]]), this could be considered an instance of the Republican being rejected (i.e. condemned) by their own kind. Though it only counts as such a rejection if the group they're being rejected from promotes pseudoscience, which doesn't apply to Republicans… oh wait, [[global warming denial|yes]] [[abortion and breast cancer|it]] [[conversion therapy|does]].

==See also==
*[[Alt-right]]er [[Jared Taylor]] has denounced [[Nazi]] [[David Duke]]'s [[antisemitism]]
*Infighting that goes on within the political [[horseshoe]]
*[[Stopped clock]] is what a lot of this boils down to.<ref group=note>Or, to put that more bluntly, the majority of cranks still have ''just enough'' awareness of reality to not accidentally dismember themselves. Emphasis on "most of them", i.e. yes, there ''are'' people who are so intensely stupid that every day they manage to not get themselves killed is a minor miracle.</ref>

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