Jay Bartlett

{{christianity}}
{{cquote|''1. Some babies are not really babies but demons clothing themselves as babies in attempt to torment the victim's body. 2. Some babies are genuine babies but indwelt by demonic spirits. 3. Some babies are dead babies held in the body by demonic power to torment. 4. Some babies are a human-demon hybrids...''|||Jay Bartlett<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063842/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=8638#8638 Re: Re Demons Inside]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 14 May 2008.</ref>}}

'''Jay Bartlett''' (known on his forum as '''"Rescuer"''') is an active participant in the [[deliverance ministry]] movement. He maintains the website MinisteringDeliverance.com.

==Parts and alters==
Many of the people Bartlett ministers to are clearly mentally ill, and require professional help rather than exorcism. He regularly talks of "parts" and "alters",<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063859/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5542 Holy Communion Stirs Up the Demonic]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 13 December 2011.</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063829/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4522 What is the Biblical evidence for these "alters"]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 9 February 2010.</ref> terms associated with dissociative identity disorder. Bartlett points to [[Psalms]] 34:18 ("The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit") as evidence that "our loving God is very much interested in those who have DID." He goes onto claim that "broken pieces can be demonized and locked up by the enemy" and can also "possess animal spirits".<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20101127043243/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1182&start=0 The Reality of Multiple Personality Disorders and DID]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 8 February 2008.</ref>

==Spiritual surgery and cursed objects==
Bartlett speaks of coming across people who have cursed objects "within their body nature"; he attributes this to the work of Satanic cults. "This ancient practice of infusing individuals with cursed objects is becoming more common in recent years", he says. "We need to be equipped in performing spiritual surgery to assist those tormented with cursed objects within their bodies!" 

Describing an exorcism that he performed on a woman (apparently the Tina woman discussed later in the article) who "possessed, within her body nature, two literal animals--parts of animals that the cult spiritually surgically placed within her belly. One was a part of a lizard, it's tail, scales, and fragments of it's skin. These pieces of the lizard were cursed and placed inside of her. There was another animal part within her also, a rabbit's foot, that had been cursed and placed within her stomach area." Bartlett mentions that the woman was having stomach troubles because of these implants.

From some of Bartlett's postings on the subject it is unclear whether he is referring to physical bodies or to something spiritual. It may appear that by "body nature" he is referring to the soul, and that the objects are only figurative. But no, he is in fact talking about objects being literally implanted in people's bodies, albeit through magical means: "The animals were literal animal parts--I even saw them being expelled out via the mouth", he says of the rabbit foot and lizard bits. "How did they place it in her--it was a combination of the demonic supernaturalism and physical surgery."<ref name=surgery>[https://web.archive.org/web/20101127023735/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3029 How to Conduct Spiritual Surgery~Removing Things from Bodies]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 9 February 2009.</ref>

Other objects that Bartlett claims to have removed during spiritual surgery include a small motor,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063829/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4094 Armor, Weapons, Animal Skins, and Objects Defeated]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 1 October 2009.</ref> a fetus<ref name=surgery/> and detection devices.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063851/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=8110#8110 Re Demons Inside]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 30 April 2008.</ref> He says that he sometimes comes across live animals implanted in peoples' bodies, including "demon-animal hybrids" and "animals not known to the mainstream population but are breeded{{sic}} in these groups for devilish purposes", and claims to have received death threats from cults, drug cartels and pornography rings for giving out information on this subject.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063845/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1029 Out of the Mouth]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 27 November 2007.</ref>

==Tina==
Perhaps the most befuddling incident (or series of incidents) in Bartlett's career is the saga of Tina. Tina originally joined in 2008, posting under the screenname "homebound" and introducing herself as a 44 year old Missouri resident who had been out of rehab for thirty-one days.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063857/http://www.ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2748&sid=746cb172d3f864e3a66085042f157a53 Hi, Im new to this site, my name is Tina im from missouri, 44 years old and is married]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 11 December 2008.</ref> Tina claimed to have had experience of the supernatural ("I know what its like to have visits of demons to levitate to astroplane.. I know whats it lke to want out as well an d all u get are meds and it doesnt work"<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063854/http://www.ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2749 Not real Good at explaining this But...] Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 11 December 2008.</ref>). In 2009, forum member "pinetree" claimed that Tina was set to travel to Texas to be exorcised by Bartlett.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063848/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=19058&sid=593acd84d39f50d8b16c89197a9fe937 Please Pray for Ziggy (Tina)]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 16 January 2009.</ref> The next month Bartlett said that he had met Tina and cast two thousand and two demons (all of them named Jezebeth, apparently) out of her, and caused a "dissociative identity" named Nataley to convert to Christianity.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063834/http://www.ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3014 2,002 Jezebeth Evil Spirits Expelled]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 4 February 2009.</ref>

Assuming that she is real, and not a figment of Bartlett's imagination, Tina clearly needs mental help, as is evident from this post she made shortly after the above incident:

{{quotebox|Well I wanted to come in and make a update, two of the monsters came out the night my daddy and james prayed and the rabbit's foot came out.

my daddy said leys see your hand, and he prayed and u could actully see my hand turning red and We could feel it, the lizard tail as well came out.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063851/http://www.ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=19896&sid=43e38efbba30916a574f593c69cdb663 new eyes new heart,looking awsome check this out.] Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 12 February 2009.</ref>}}

At around this time forum moderator "nautical999" claimed that Tina was under attack from her family members, who are occultists.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063842/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3077&sid=0ddf976767b26b1a1375397d0494f6b4 Post subject: update on Tina]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 20 February 2009.</ref> "The sadistic cult, she has escaped from, is now after her 'with a venegence{{sic}}'", said Bartlett. "They had their local 'police department' call me to find her whereabouts. I declined to give any information for I have reason to believe this wasn't truly the 'police department.'" He claimed to have taken Tina to "a small but very comfortable room with everything she needs, in a very hidden place in Dallas".<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063854/http://www.ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3082 The "Police Department" Trying to Obtain Informati]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 20 February 2009.</ref>

A few days later Bartlett reported that Tina had been captured by the cult; allegedly Bartlett's wife had met with the Dallas Police Department, who said that Tina had reported being held in Dallas against her will. The one holding her against her will would, of course, have been Bartlett, who suggested that Tina only said this because of mind control or demonic possession.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063844/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3102&sid=b4d401882d92742ce41ca1e749456310 The Cult has Captured Tina]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 25 February 2009.</ref>

Bartlett claims to have subsequently rescued Tina from the cult.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063831/http://www.ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3122 Jesus has captured Tina! She has been Rescued!] Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 3 March 2009.</ref> A few months later she was apparently kidnapped by the cult and rescued by Bartlett again.  According to Bartlett, she had been "forced to undergo a satanic ritual that involve a ritual killing and drinking of blood"<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063856/http://www.ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3519&start=0&sid=eb8d4ea6fd6e06b56e47c766fac27ecf Tina was Kidnapped Again]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 20 May 2009.</ref> (possibly like the conversion techniques used by Bartlett himself). Tina was then kidnapped again the next month.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063856/http://www.ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3690 DON'T EVER MESS WITH US AGAIN, OUR COVEN AGAIN!!!] Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 22 June 2009.</ref>

Despite supposedly being held captive by the cult, Tina continued to occasionally access the forum and post messages such as this:

{{quotebox|i WILL BE HOME SOON I FEEL AN GELS AROUND ME GOOD OMES. IM SO DRUGED UP ITS HARD FOR ME TO RTUPE LOV3E U HUYE IN jeeuesomeone always standing gsurd over me they sy i hsve lsd in my body<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063842/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=25242&sid=bf3538aa2b8b66aa55878c1dd1152498 never giving up]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 8 July 2009.</ref>}}

Bartlett's last post about Tina was made in August 2009, when he stated that "the cult continues to torment her. She has been moved to different locations and is back and forth trying to make it difficult to locate her."<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063832/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=26286#26286 Re: making my way out]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 7 July 2009.</ref> Tina made her last post to the forum in October 2009, saying "Hi every one" alongside a waving smiley.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150415063834/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=27372 Hi every one]. Archived from ministeringdeliverance.com, 12 October 2009.</ref>

Exactly what Bartlett was involved with here is unclear, but one wonders if it was legal.

==External links==
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20190114200403/http://www.jaybartlett.org/ Personal website] (dead since 2019)
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20221012040409/http://ministeringdeliverance.com/ Ministering Deliverance] (dead since 2022)
* [http://www.deliveranceblog.org/ Deliverance Blog]
* [http://twitter.com/DeliveranceShow Jay Bartlett] on [[Twitter]]
* [http://www.blogtalkradio.com/deliveranceradio Deliverance Radio]
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20170716211031/http://fstdt.com/Search.aspx?Fundie=Jay+Bartlett Jay Bartlett Quotes] on [[FSTDT]]

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