You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, but You Can't Make Him Think

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'''''You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, but You Can't Make Him Think''''' ({{isbn|9781935071068}}) is a book by evangelist [[Ray Comfort]], published in 2009 by professional [[wingnut]]s [[WorldNetDaily]].<ref name=comfort>Ray Comfort, ''You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, But You Can't Make Him Think: Answers to Questions from Angry Skeptics''. WND Books, 2009. {{isbn|9781935071068}}.</ref>

Subtitled "Answers to Questions from Angry [[Skepticism|Skeptics]]," the book consists of questions asked of Comfort on his blog<ref>[https://archive.ph/XlUv On the box with Ray Comfort]. Archived on 5 December 2012.</ref> together with his vacuous answers to them. Weighing in at a meager 137 printed pages at a recommended retail price of USD 22.95 in hardback,<ref>It was available free to self-professed atheists for a [https://archive.ph/NYStl limited time] (5/13/09) - as of 5/18/09, 109 had [https://archive.ph/W1f5s taken advantage] of this offer, though it appears to have run out.</ref> the book's cover picture and snappy title are more likely to sell it than the contents. This slim and rather pricey volume is guaranteed to disappoint both believer and non-believer alike.

Numerous reviews of the book (not all of them helpful) were submitted to Amazon.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20140731151950/http://www.amazon.com/Lead-Atheist-Evidence-Cant-Think/product-reviews/1935071068/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_img?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1 Customer reviews of You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, But You Can't Make Him Think]. Amazon.</ref> These are highly polarised, mostly being one-star or five-star with only a handful in between. Its "most helpful" five-star review is clearly an example of [[Poe's Law]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20151207151125/http://www.amazon.com/review/R35ICBRVKXWIKP Perfect Proofs Without Extra Sauce]. A review of Comfort's book, archived on 7 December 2015.</ref>
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== Content and snarky commentary ==
In the preface, Comfort sets up the fallacious strawmen he will soon destroy:

{{quotebox|The staunch atheist has the zeal of a religious [[fanatic]]. He is fundamentalist in his belief that there is no [[God]] - and, armed with basic [[Richard Dawkins]] phrases, he is ready for a fight. He is unreasonable, angry, and [[Atheists hate God|bitter at God]], and will color his speech with [[blasphemy]] of His name, despite the fact that he professes that God doesn't exist. The atheist is someone who pretends that there is no God.<ref name=comfort />{{rp|xi}}}}

From the opening sentence, the book sets appropriate expectations for the reader, beginning: "[[Pascal's wager|To be an atheist is to play Russian roulette with all barrels loaded]]." (Given the number of gods proposed by world religions through the history of mankind, it would be a million-barrel revolver — and Comfort's would have one empty chamber.)

Comfort goes on to outline the Three Things he Knows&trade;. These are:

# [[Creationism|Creation]] demonstrates there is a creator.
# Everyone knows there is a god, and that the god is described in the [[Bible]]. [[Atheists hate god|People only deny this so they can live debauched lives of merriment and revelry]]. Even Hindus and Buddhists, presumably.
# You're a very naughty boy, and [[God]] is going to send you to [[Hell]].

Everything Comfort says is a variant on one or more of these themes; in fact, this book quickly becomes quite tedious, as he ends up firmly demonstrating that he literally doesn't know anything else. We've started, however, so we may as well finish.

== Chapter 1: Creation Must Have a Creator ==
This chapter opens with a [[quote mine]] from [[Stephen Hawking|Stephen Hawking's]] ''A Brief History of Time'', which comes deep in the middle of a discussion of the universe's origins, the anthropic principle, and uniformity. As best as it can be "put in context", Hawking is being mocking when he writes:

{{quotebox|It would be very difficult to explain why the universe should have begun in just this way, except as the act of a God who intended to create beings like us.<ref>Stephen Hawking, [http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Nave-html/Faithpathh/hawking.html A Brief History of Time]. HyperPhysics, Georgia State University.</ref>}}

Since this game is so much fun, anyone can play. From a few pages earlier in the same chapter, Hawking says "These laws may have originally been decreed by God, but it appears that he has since left the universe to evolve according to them and does not now intervene in it." Oh well.

Note that for not capitalizing "he" as the Godly pronoun, Hawking's comment would have been deleted from Comfort's blog: "Cuss words (mild or abbrev.), blasphemy, URLs, incivility, or failure to give the names 'God' or 'Jesus' capitals will be deleted."<ref name=comfort />{{rp|xii}}

The first chapter is appropriately enough named after the first of the three things Comfort knows. He starts by stating that atheists' beliefs vary as much as atheists themselves, but states that all atheists share one thing in common: "An 'atheist' believes that there is no God and that man came into being without any intelligent design." He was actually off to a good start here acknowledging the diversity of atheists, so it's a shame he then pivots and paints their beliefs with such a broad brush. The first part of that is what's called "strong atheism", which includes only a minority of the godless.

He goes on to say, "If there was no designer, [[non sequitur|then an atheist owes his existence to random chance]], over millions or billions of years, of course.  While some believers in evolution deny that evolution is a random process, if it's not unplanned, then it's planned. And if it is planned, then there is Someone doing the planning." Based on this, Comfort is only right about two things: that not all atheists share the same beliefs, and that the only thing that connects them is their lack of belief in God.  BUT that does not mean they all think man came into being without intelligent design. For example, [[Raelian]]s are basically atheists, but they believe that man was intelligently designed by aliens.

Next Comfort tells us what he thinks [[evolution]] is.  He speculates on the first modern human male, calling him Adam, and how "fortunate" it was that he evolved when there was air to breathe.  This breathtakingly [[not even wrong]] assertion tells you all you need to know about how much Comfort understands about evolution and the natural history of our planet.  If that wasn't enough stupid for one book, Comfort goes on to tell us that it was also fortunate that the air was exactly 78.09% nitrogen and 20.95% oxygen.  Leaving aside the fact that the mixture of gases in the atmosphere demonstrably changes over time, people are perfectly capable of breathing other mixtures of gases. Just ask any scuba diver.

But wait, there's more!  While we're still reeling from the previous paragraph, Comfort hits us with this gem: he thinks females evolve separately from males.  He tells us that the first female would have had to evolve solely by chance at the same time as the first male, and then wander around until she finds him.  This line of argument goes on, but there's really no need to torture you with it.  Suffice it to say that Comfort doesn't know squat about evolution.

Now that he has finished demonstrating his profound and unapologetic ignorance, he addresses his first question.

;Am I a "false convert" because I doubt?  Do you ever have doubts?<ref name=comfort />{{rp|3}}

In answering this question, Comfort exercises ''Things He Knows''™ #1 and #2. He doesn't doubt because creation is absolute proof that there is a creator, and everyone knows there is a god. Of course, this is simply a semantic game. Something that can be described as a creation certainly does imply there is a creator. However, stating this fact doesn't get you any nearer demonstrating that humans, Earth, or the universe at large can be accurately described as a creation. To do that, you would of course have to demonstrate the existence of the creator, that which is to be demonstrated. This is simply [[begging the question]]. For a moment we can ''just imagine'' that there is a creator.  Now why does that creator have to be the god of 
Jewish bronze age and iron age mythology
 the [[Bible]]? How can Ray be sure any creator is not [[Zoroastrianism|Ahura Mazda]] for example?

Comfort's advice is to trust God, specifically ''his'' god, even when such trust seems impossible. Great advice! I'm sure the Hindus (who believe in many gods) and Buddhists (who mostly don't believe in gods) will get right on it.

;You err when you compare a "building and its builder" with a "human and his creator," they are not the same thing!<ref name=comfort />{{rp|3-4}}

Comfort doesn't actually attempt to defend his analogy; he just falls back on the [[argument from authority]]: The [[Bible]] says it; therefore it must be true.

He then goes off on a totally unrelated tangent, stating that, when one becomes a Christian, one suddenly starts to care about the unwanted in society.  Nevermind that Comfort, a Christian who personally rakes in almost a million dollars a year in donations alone (let alone sales of books and other merchandise), appears himself to have been unaffected in this direction.

Comfort uses this purported Christian love as a springboard from which to attack atheists.  For atheism, it seems, is "the epitome of stupidity," "an intellectual embarrassment," but he loves atheists so much that he argues with them anyway, in spite of how "demeaning" he finds it.  Keep it up, Ray!  We're feeling the love already.

;If you think that creation of the human mind is evidence of god, then I'd argue that you certainly don't think god does a very good job.<ref name=comfort />{{rp|4}}

Comfort answers that the human mind is in fact perfect; it's just that atheists aren't using it right.  He then segues right in to an [[argument from beauty]], trotting out the classic "[http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2009/05/more-email-fun-look-at-all-trees.html look at the trees!]" — the hallmark of a truly ignorant creationist.  To Comfort, however, this is all apparently [[common sense]]: the atheist, because he cannot see it, must have some form of mental disorder.

Of course, the human brain is not perfect.  Ever forget anything?  For another example, just search up "optical illusion". Our brains just interpret those images/videos wrong!

;Let's look at your list of "evidence." Creation proves a creator. It most certainly does not. Even calling it "creation" shows your considerable bias.<ref name=comfort />{{rp|5}}

For starters, we're treated to a rehash of the previous answer: To be an atheist involves a denial of "common sense," to which Comfort adds a dash of "people are only atheists so they can ignore almighty god's moral laws."  Say what you like about him, but no one can accuse him of being an original thinker.

Comfort goes on to assert that "Staunch evolutionists believe in the theory as though their life{{sic}} depends on it," and that's because their life ''does'' in fact partly depend on it, which explains the passion for their defense of the theory. You know penicillin doesn't work anymore because bacteria evolved a resistance to it, right, Ray? Questionable grammar, and still more questionable conclusions. This book just gets worse and worse.

;If your deity can have always existed, so can the universe.<ref name=comfort />{{rp|6}}

Comfort quotes noted actual scientist (Stephen Hawking again) saying that the universe definitely had a beginning, and of course it almost certainly did, at the [[big bang]]. Given enough matter, however, it may well end in a big crunch. It's also entirely possible that the resultant singularity will go on to spawn a whole new universe, and so on ''ad infinitum''. To assume that this is the first iteration of our universe is unwarranted self-aggrandisement.

After this brief interlude of intelligence, brightening our lives only marginally, Comfort proceeds to whittle on about how his god, being a magic man, isn't subject to the same laws as the rest of the universe. Apparently, if only you believe in him, he'll make you magic too.  The evidence?  Well, he hasn't got any.

;Why do you call everyone who disagrees with you an atheist? I believe in evolution, and I'm a Christian.<ref name=comfort />{{rp|7}}

Comfort immediately launches in to a harangue of the hapless Christian: evolution, he claims, is a false god that said Christian has erected in order to worship.  In the real world, evolution isn't a god to be worshipped; it's a [[scientific]] theory that best explains the diversity of life as we currently understand it.  It neither provides nor abolishes any moral framework, so to tell a Christian he worships evolution so that he can "sin" is both presumptuous and flat out wrong.

At the end of the chapter, Comfort examines some scientific literature, calling them all "children's books." When the scientists give example of fossilized organisms, such as fish with wings, he portrays them as fiction writers who "believe dinosaurs developed feathers and became birds." he mentions the [[Rational Response Squad debate with Way of the Master|''Nightline'' debate with the Rational Response Squad]] in 2007, where he and [[Kirk Cameron]] "produced imaginary pictures of what we imagined would be genuine species-to-species transitional forms. We called one a '[[Crocoduck]]' and another was called a 'bulldog.' This was to show exactly what evolutionists believe, but cannot back up through the fossil record. We were ridiculed, called stupid, and told that we did not understand evolution. However, these books [referring to the scientific literature previously mentioned] vindicate us (not that we needed it). They have done with future what evolutionists have down with the past. They have made a mockery of science."  Of course, calling them stupid couldn't ''possibly'' have happened because they produced a mockery of evolution and called it "exactly what evolutionists believe", could it?

;Stephen Hawking, the smartest man alive, is an atheist<ref name=comfort />{{rp|8}}

Comfort [[Quote-mining|says]] that Hawking "is not a fool. He believes in God. Look at what he said about him: 'It would be very difficult to explain why the universe should have begun in just this way, except as the act of God who intended to create beings like us.' He also said, 'The odds against a universe like ours coming out of something like the Big bang are enormous. I think there are dearly religious implications...' It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at this amazing creation and see the genius of the Creator. A child can know that. Your stumbling block isn't intellectual as you maintain... it's moral."

;Atheists don't hate god, fairies, leprechauns, unicorns, etc. because you cannot hate something that does not exist<ref name=comfort />{{rp|8}}

Comfort says the person is right that atheists do not hate fairies, leprechauns, or unicorns "because they do not exist." But he states [[atheists hate God]] because ''he does'' exist. How does he know this? Because atheists spend a lot of time thinking about God, coming up with arguments against God, blaspheming God's name (he says [[Rick Santorum|using a person's name]] [[Santorum|as a cuss word]] is the greatest extent you can go for hating someone), and then ridiculing those who do believe in God. "Atheists have the axiomatic evidence of creation and of their own consciences, and are therefore without excuse." He compares atheists to people in certain cultures who shun a disgraced family member as if they no longer exist. He argues the atheists' reasons for shunning God is a moral issue, not an intellectual one because "if it was an intellectual issue there wouldn't be any argument." (In other words, if they argue against me, I win by claiming they're actually supporting me by arguing against me, and if they don't argue against me, then I've gotten them out of my way in foisting my beliefs onto society.)

;Do I have to "prove" God to nonbelievers before preaching the Gospel?<ref name=comfort />{{rp|9}}

Comfort begins with the following statement: "[[burden of proof|We do not have to prove the existence of God]] to the professing atheist. [[Presuppositionalism|This is because he intuitively knows]] that He exists. Every person has a God-given conscience. The Bible tells us that this is 'the work of the law written on our hearts.' Just as every sane person knows it is wrong to lie, steal, kill, and commit adultery, he knows that God should be the first in his life." He says [[Begging the question|the atheist has the proof for God already with his conscience]] and creation. He says he does not waste time trying to prove that God exists, rather he tries to convince people that "[[sin]]" exists — and he does this by taking people through the [[Ten Commandments]].

;To attempt to use faith in science, or science in faith, simply demeans both<ref name=comfort />{{rp|9-10}}

Comfort begins with the following statement: "Not so. Every scientific experiment is done 'in faith.' If a scientist had the results in front of him where he could see them, why would he experiment? He conducts a test because he doesn't yet see the results." He mentions [[Thomas Edison]] who kept failing in his experiments to make a successful light bulb until he finally achieved it, to which he states, "it was because of his faith that he got the result. He believed without seeing, until the light gave him that for which he was looking. Never make the mistake of believing you can ever remove faith from the equation." Comfort notes that Edison was not a believer (and one of his greatest heroes), but it was God who gave Edison "light" — the ability to innovate, think, and discover. He says "the fact some don't recognize the evidence doesn't mean that it is not there." If Edison made the light come on, but Edison insisted that it did not, he would either have to be "blind or a fool."

Comfort ends with the following statement: "When the Bible speaks of "faith" in God, that is not a reference to an intellectual acknowledgment that he exists (we all know that). It's speaking of an implicit ''trust'' in his person and his promise."

Here is the problem: ''this response from Ray Comfort is completely false''.

{{quotebox|{{bible|Hebrews|11|1}}: Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.}}

{{quotebox|{{bible|2 Corinthians|4|18}}: So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.}}

{{quotebox|{{bible|2 Corinthians|5|7}}: We live by faith, not by sight.}}

{{quotebox|{{bible|John|20|29}}: Then Jesus told him, “[[Skepticism|Because you have seen me, you have believed]]; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”}}

{{quotebox|{{bible|Romans|4|17}}: As it is written: "I have made you a father of many nations." He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed--the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were.}}

{{quotebox|{{bible|Romans|1|20}}: For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.}}

Things hoped for, but not seen. Looking at things that are not seen. Not seeing what is seen. And this list ends with everybody’s favorite combination of logical fallacies; the circular argument of arriving back to an assumed conclusion.

Now that we are expected to see what is not there. Not only that, we are blessed if we make ourselves see what cannot be seen. This is not a reasonable request. These are not reasonable responses. We are encouraged to believe without reason, in fact we are blessed if we believe the most outrageous illogical inconsistent contradictory claims without any evidence at all. Because only accurate information has practical application, and it should be that positive claims require positive evidence and [[extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence]]. Our beliefs should be tentative and subject to obligated change if the evidence demands. We should have some way to correct the flaws in our current perception and thus improve our understanding – THAT would be reasonable. Because if we love truth at all, then what should matter most is that we not allow ourselves to be deceived. But faith is the very opposite; it requires that we literally “make belief” that we ignore what we really do see and pretend something is there when it apparently isn't. It means that we fool ourselves. Worse than that, faith requires that we believe the unbelievable. This is not just a [[willful ignorance]], this is a deliberately induced [[delusion]]. Fantasy is adopted as reality and truth is dismissed as irrelevant.

;Religious and nonreligious people can both have feelings of awe about the universe, but Comfort appears not able to<ref name=comfort />{{rp|10-11}}

Comfort begins by saying he would prefer if he was not called "religious" because he wants to distance himself from all the religious hypocrisy (as if that would do it, given his behavior).

He ends this chapter with an annotated version of {{bible|Romans|1|21}}: 

{{quotebox|[W]hen they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened. (''Amplified Bible'')}}

;Science is a method of knowing things. Galileo was arrested because the church "knew" the sun orbited around the earth, but how can they "know" this?<ref name=comfort />{{rp|11-12}}

Comfort tells the person to "read their history" and learn that the Roman Catholic Church arrested Galileo, not Christians. He says even Roman Catholics know the difference (Catholics hold onto tradition whereas Christians adhere only to the Bible—as if Christianity was invented in 1517 by Martin Luther, or Catholics don't call themselves Christians).

He ends this chapter with, while science merely discovered the laws of physics that already exist, it is God who is the first one to put them all in place for us to discover.

;How old do you think the earth is?<ref name=comfort />{{rp|12}}

Comfort says that it does not matter to him how old the earth is, but science does not know either because they keep changing the date by millions or billions of years. He is sure the date will change as new data comes along ([[Science_was_wrong_before|as if that's a "problem" in science]]) "and, of course, none of the ''faithful'' will question it."

;Why can't scientists make absolute claims but you can about the Bible and God?<ref name=comfort />{{rp|12-13}}

He states that it is a clear and open fact that [[Science doesn't know everything|science does not know everything]], and its "beliefs" keep changing when new evidence is discovered—as if its ability, and willingness, to correct its errors is a weakness rather than a strength.

==Chapter 2: Our Conscience Testifies to a Creator and Our Need for a Savior==
Comfort begins this chapter with describing a bunch of art experts gathering around and examining a painting and concluding it had a maker. However, when they learned the painter was a black man, they suddenly hated him and spouted racist words, until finally, they erased the signature on the picture because "they tried to erase or deny the painter's very existence." He says that God knows and everyone knows the reason why people keep coming up with the same arguments over and over is because they hate God (just as the Bible says).

Shitty analogy, or shifty attempt to [[Poisoning the well|make atheists look bad]] by implying atheism is racist? You decide!

He repeats the "Creation requires a creator" and goes on to explain all the good the creator (God) has provided us and how wonderful he is.

;Lie Detector<ref name=comfort />{{rp|33}}

An anonymous commenter points out that [[lie detector]]s do not spot lies, just body reactions. Comfort points out that is true, rather lie detectors are conscience detectors. This is not true. A person may tell the unvarnished truth and still trigger a polygraph, because the situation makes him nervous, rather than anything to do with his conscience.

;Conscience and Society<ref name=comfort />{{rp|34}}

Another person points out is it possible that conscience is the product of society? Comfort says that every culture has a moral code and acknowledges some sort of a Creator. "I am not aware of any past culture that has been found to be atheistic." Apparently, he has never heard of [[Buddhism]] or [[Jainism]], which do not believe in a creator, or that Buddhism is the most important belief system in East Asia.  

He makes a scenario of a man [[Feral child|raised by wolves]] for 20 years, who is later accepted into society. The man ends up raping and murdering a woman, then stealing her money. After he is caught and brought to trial, the argument that he has no moral compass because he was not raised by society does not work (all this assuming {{wpl|Feral child|said man}} can integrate himself in human society, learn to properly speak their language, then act purely immoral rather than amoral). Incidentally, in many liberal countries and in liberal parts of the United States, that defense would work and would get him into a secure mental institution instead of prison.

He then concludes conscience is not given by society, therefore it must come from God. He ends this section by quoting {{bible|Romans|1|19|21}}.

;I have a conscience and am an atheist. Why is that? Is it broken, or are you full of it?<ref name=comfort />{{rp|35}}

Comfort responds that his conscience operates because it was given by God ({{bible|Romans|2|15}}), especially the parts where he violates the Commandments. "However, the reason why your conscience has nothing to say about your atheism is that atheism is not a moral issue. It's an intellectual issue. If I were to lie or steal, my conscience would scream at me. But if I said something that was intellectually stupid, like one and one make five, the conscience would remain silent. The same applies with atheism." He says nothing more, but this alone says a lot. First, this completely contradicts his previous claim in page 8 that atheism is a purely moral issue about shunning the Christian god and NOT an intellectual one. It's also quite easy to apply this "anti-intellectual" trait he is using to Christianity instead of atheism, just as validly. Though rationally speaking, atheism is simply lack of belief (in deities) due to lack of convincing evidence (in general), it has objectively nothing to do with refusing to admit facts or a deep-seated hatred against a god they secretly believe in but hate, so declaring atheism (maybe he means "anything that isn't Christianity") by itself stupid just like that isn't very rational.

So being an atheist is not morally wrong; our conscience, which Comfort imagines is God-given, says nothing about it but we still go to [[hell]] for atheism. And, according to his reasoning above, saying things we know to be untrue (claiming everyone is by default Christian<ref>[https://religions.wiki/index.php?title=Atheists_know_there_is_a_God Atheists know there is a God]. Religions Wiki.</ref> means professing atheists are liars) isn't a moral issue — which suggests that the Ninth Commandment is not a moral issue.  That would explain the mendacity of some of Comfort's arguments.

Finally, the answer dodges the question's main point, which is questioning the validity of the claim that  atheists are by nature evil.<ref>[https://religions.wiki/index.php?title=Atheists_are_immoral Atheists are immoral]. Religions Wiki.</ref>

;I think atheists can be good, just not perfect<ref name=comfort />{{rp|36}}

At once, Comfort says, "It deeply concerns me when I hear a professing Christian tell an atheist that an atheist can be a good person." But just one page before he said that atheism isn't a matter of conscience; try to be consistent, Ray. Basically, Comfort (a professing Christian) said right here to all atheist faces that atheists cannot be good people. And how dare he say that atheists cannot be good, and yet he himself goes around the world asking people "Are you a good person?" ''including professing Christians''.<ref>[https://religions.wiki/index.php?title=Are_you_a_good_person%3F Are you a good person?] Religions Wiki.</ref> Every single interview, even if the person passes each time, he ultimately finds them all guilty and not good people at all. he then goes on to say that the Bible says no person is good, not even Christians. The only one who is good is God, and anyone who calls another human "good" is calling Jesus a liar.

;You do not need to be born-again to be good<ref name=comfort />{{rp|37}}

Comfort says nobody is good, not even Christians. He moves on to define ''good'', which has 58 definitions, but the principal meaning is "morally excellent." He then jumps from this to tell what the Bible says about being good, but this argument is no more valid than looking to what the [[Qur'an]] says about what is good.

He says that the word good derives from "God."  It doesn't, of course; "good" is from Proto-Germanic ''gothaz'',<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20120101043240/http://etymonline.com/?term=good Good]. Online Entomology Dictionary.</ref> whereas "God" comes from Proto-Germanic ''guthan''.<ref>[http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=god God]. Online Entomology Dictionary.</ref> Here he is either assuming a connection exists between two unrelated words that happen to look and sound alike (much like extreme feminists babble about "herstory" on the ignorant assumption that history comes from "his story"), or he is being deliberately deceptive.

While Comfort says anyone can live a good life as a non-Christian OR as a Christian, we are all criminals in the sight of God. The only way to avoid punishment is not through works, but by grace and repentance. Is that all, Ray? Even after a person repents, they will still continue sinning. Even Comfort admits to sinning in the next page. By his standards, the only way to enter Heaven is to be a Christian and to not lie, steal, look with lust, or blaspheme. By this, it seems the only way to enter Heaven as a 'true' Christian would be to 1. Lie in bed forever, 2. Remain silent, and 3. Avoid all contact with another human for the rest of your life. By avoiding contact with another human, you cannot lust after them, lie to them, or steal from them. By remaining silent, you cannot commit blasphemy. All you have to do is accept Jesus once, lie there, and let time kill you. You do not have to pray or perform certain rituals, since he says good works don't count. This seems to be the only way. You cannot play video games online, because it may lead to anger with other people (which he says counts as murdering someone). Better yet, you better die quickly after repenting before your mind thinks of something that is evil in God's eyes (coveting, sexuality, and such). What kind of life is this? Why would God create us just to make us live alone in complete solitude? We might as well be nothing.

;Can you admit that certain people are good because they are...<ref name=comfort />{{rp|38}}

The anonymous commenter lists several things, like polite, generous, honest, etc. However, Comfort does not call them "good", rather he calls them remarkable. "Perhaps that is why there are so many divorces." He says that many people think they are good, but it is nothing compared to God's law, which is "infinitely higher than theirs." He brings up Joe Average, who is guilty by the [[Ten Commandments]]. In court, although he admits his guilt, he tries to bolster that he is polite, generous, honest, etc. However, that does not help his case.

;Humility Test<ref name=comfort />{{rp|39}}

Comfort says that chickens are the dumbest creatures in the world (speaking from personal experience by raising chickens). He says that God made the chicken first to lay fresh eggs for us to eat. He points out that the chicken will be completely docile when held upside down, making less resistance to slaughter. He quotes {{bible|Psalm|34|2}} and says how wonderful God is. He says the readers' reaction to this will show whether or not the reader is humble of heart or "possessed by the arrogance of pride." It does not say that he killed the chicken. What is the point of this test? To be glad that God did this and that, or that we ignore his goodness towards us. Well, there is a big problem here, Ray. First of all, the chicken did not come first. Eggs existed long before chickens arrived on the spot. Already, he has demonstrated that God does not exist. He also makes it seem that the chicken was made for us, but it didn't happen like that. Humans captured wild birds, probably {{wpl|Red Junglefowl||,}} to domesticate them for agriculture and selectively bred them for characteristics most desirable to us. See also [[Banana fallacy]].

;Jesus and God failed the "Are you a good person?" test<ref name=comfort />{{rp|41}}

Comfort is shocked by this comment. He does not provide any more to the comment, but he says "how dare" any person "point the finger" at Jesus Christ, the Son of God. He says that only a morally perfect person could do that, and yet there are none at all. He says that Jesus led a sinless life, in thought, word, and deed. He never stole, lied, coveted, murdered, or dishonored his parents. He stops there and tries to turn the table, but before we go there, let's examine this quickly.

Did Jesus live a sinless life? First of all, this assumes that Jesus of Nazareth existed (which is a valid question), and it assumes we have the full and correct biography of Jesus (for all we know, his story in the gospels could be whitewashed). But from what we can examine, did Jesus do any of these things? First of all, the Commandment "Thou shalt not lie" is not there. Period. "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor" in the Biblical sense means you shall not produce false testimony against your neighbor. Bearing false witness actually has to do with property and dealing with misrepresentations in the courts, not just simply lying about someone else.﻿ There are numerous liars in the Bible, and God does not punish them; oftentimes God rewards them and the Bible calls them "righteous".<ref>[https://religions.wiki/index.php?title=Thou_shalt_not_bear_false_witness Thou shalt not bear false witness]. Religions Wiki.</ref> 

Jesus himself is fine with stealing. In {{bible|Mark|11|2|4}}, {{bible|Matthew|21|2|3}}, and {{bible|Luke|19|30|31}}, Jesus instructs two of his disciples to go into a village (perhaps Bethany) and locate a colt tied up near the entrance, and to return with it. If someone stopped them they were to explain that the Lord had need of it. Otherwise, they were simply to steal the colt without paying for it or obtaining permission. Thus, Jesus would be guilty of thievery. Also, in {{bible|Matthew|12|47|50}}, {{bible|Mark|3|31|34}}, and {{bible|Luke|8|20|21}}, Jesus disrespects his mother (and brothers) by refusing to recognize them as his family while they waited outside wishing to speak with him. To Comfort, looking with lust counts as adultery, but depending which gospel you read, Jesus often kissed [[Mary Magdalene]]. Basically, he is dead wrong here. A Jew will likely tell you that Jesus sinned  simply by claiming that he himself was God, when God ''cannot'' become human, and thus man cannot be God<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20120220090903/http://whatjewsbelieve.org/explanation8.html Jews believe that G-d is G-d, Humans are Humans, G-d doesn't become Human, and Humans do not become G-d]. Archived from whatjewsbelieve.org, 20 February 2012.</ref> (which separated Jews from many pagans who believed in man-gods).

It is probably true that Jesus never committed [[murder]], but that's setting the bar rather low, don't you think?

==Chapter 3: Humanity's Sin Deserves Punishment==
[[image:Comforting thoughts signed.jpg|thumb|There's no worse punishment than a Ray Comfort autograph in one's library!]]

Starts off with Comfort retelling a tale of his father leaving every day to take care of his family, but if you pay attention to specific pieces of his dad, you can make him look like a tyrant. One could focus on his father spanking him for lying and/or stealing, but Comfort says in the big picture his father was a good man (but...I thought ''no one'' was good, Ray!). For example, when an animal was hit by a car, he killed it to put it out of its misery. He makes a similar argument that atheists quote-mine the Bible, focusing on the evil bits, to make God look like a tyrant—and his reaction is along the lines of "how dare they!?" 

Comfort goes on about all the things God did for you: life, creation, taste buds, and he gave us ears to hear music. And yet, we use God's name as a profanity, dragging his name through the mud. God, in his righteousness, gave us so much and brutally sacrificed his own son on the Cross so we can live for eternity. He has decided to hold all his own questions about God and his character until he meets him in heaven. A skeptic may point to God killing women and children in the Old Testament, but God ultimately signed the death sentence for the entire human race, all because we sinned against him. So if you are a skeptic, "stop whining and get right with Him."

First of all, he here could argue that Hitler was not a bad man unless you only focus on the bad things. Hitler loved his wife and dog and close friends, but we all know better: he was an immoral monster. Likewise, so is Yahweh. Let's look at it from another perspective. Imagine that your society had a new leader, who published four laws that would run as follows:

# Any citizen who talks on a Friday will be executed. The leader was born on a Friday and did not talk and thus wants this respected in law.
# Your leader can kill citizens or order their killing for any reason.
# Any citizen forced by your leader to commit crimes through mind-altering drugs will be punished.
# Parents who commit a crime will have their children killed. And if it is not their first offence, they will be made to eat their children.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSS-88ShJfo Morality 2: Not-so-good books]. QualiaSoup, YouTube, 2012.</ref>

These laws would no doubt spark outrage. Law 1 kills people for a crime with no victim. Law 2 makes the lawmaker unaccountable by declaring their own killings lawful by definition. Laws 3 and 4 explicitly punish the blameless, directly contradicting the principle of personal responsibility with Law 4 adding an obscene element designed to dehumanize. They are definitive cases of injustice. So if asked about our objections to these laws, we are not restricted to saying that they are not to our taste. We have non-arbitrary reasons to object. These laws would clearly lead to identifiable abuses; we know too much what constitutes harmful behavior, suffering, and responsibility to allow such laws to be incorporated into our justice systems.

But what if this leader has been in office all your life and you have been brought up to think of him as morally perfect? Such a lawmaker would not make laws that were unjust. So this would create major cognitive dissonance. How would we respond? Perhaps we would fit some context into which it is of course right for someone who had done so much for this society to make some obsessionally arbitrary demands, or perhaps we would try to evade the problem that saying the leader's grasp of morality was so far ahead of ours that we could not understand them, that they worked in "mysterious ways". But we would be wrong; clearly the root of the problem is the root and false corrupting idea that the lawmaker is perfect. It is corrupt because it is causing us to accept unjust laws; it leaves us defending the undefendable. Remove this idea, and we can see the unjust laws for what they are. When we accept ideas uncritically, or make them sacred so we don't question them, this can distort our moral reasoning because we are then prone to make mistaken ideas ruling our attitudes and behavior outside our awareness. Those who swallow whole, or inject the idea that the lawmaker is perfect, cannot properly evaluate the law until this distorting idea is identified and removed. Removing uncritical ideas we swallowed whole is often the key in resolving certain problems we have in many areas of life.

When we see the traits attributed to the biblical deity Yahweh, clearly if it existed, it could not be better placed to meet our fair consistent justice. We are told it knows our thoughts, knows who is guilty or innocent, and is perfectly moral. So unlike human justice administrators, it would have no excuse for punishing anyone but the guilty, or for punishing them disproportionately. And yet according to the Bible, it permits, commits, and commands the vilest atrocities corresponding directly to the laws we just rejected above as unjust. It orders the killing of those working on the Sabbath, gay people, and women who show insufficient evidence of virginity on their wedding night. It kills 70,000 people when David takes a census ''at Yahweh's request'', and kills almost all land animals by flooding for human wickedness. It hardens the heart of the pharaoh, the Egyptians, and the King of Heshbon through mind control to enable their defeat and destruction. It sends a powerful delusion to make certain people believe a lie just so they can be condemned. And it deceives prophets into giving false messages, then punishes them for doing so. Having stated that no child shall be killed for the sins of the father, it orders the killing of children for their fathers' sins, the killing of the Amalekite infants, the killing of children without pity, and at least three books in the Bible have Yahweh committing perhaps the most vile atrocity we can think of: making parents eat their own children. 

If a person argues that God works in mysterious ways, ways that utterly contradict our notions of moral behavior, ''then its nature is clearly not the source of our morality''. If according to the Bible, Yahweh's nature is that familial cannibalism is a just punishment, but we call any human who provides such a law  depraved, then these positions are in direct conflict. And invoking divine mystery does nothing to resolve that conflict. Responding to these atrocities with examples of mercy does not work either, it just shows that the Bible contains both atrocities and mercy. Comfort deliberately ignores the obvious immoral monster that is Yahweh and focuses on the "good" sides of God by saying he gave us life, existence, tongues and ears. It goes without saying that people enjoy their senses, but is this really the best God can do? According to Comfort, God is omniscient and omnipotent. This means he knew eons before he supposedly created humans that suffering would surround our lives, and on top of that established several laws as described above that we just agreed are distasteful and immoral.

;Where In The Bible Does It Say That God Is Our Enemy?<ref name=comfort />{{rp|50}}

Comfort quotes {{bible|Colossians|1|20|22}}. Next, he quotes {{bible|John|15|14}} ("You are my friends, ''if you do whatever I command you''") and points out that we are God's enemies as long as we remain friends with the sinful world.

Take note of the piece "''if you do whatever I command you''." This is basically repeating the [[divine command theory]], which implies that whatever God commands must be the morally correct course of action. Therefore, if/when God endorses genocide, infanticide, animal sacrifice, slavery, or rape, those things are good, whereas if/when he forbids eating certain foods or working on certain days or having certain kinds of kinky sex, those things immediately become bad. This makes divine command theory a subjective theory of morals, one which is arbitrary and can change at God's whim.

One way of countering this argument is to say "God wouldn't do that", but this doesn't help at all. For one, in many religious traditions he does do such things. For another, if God is the source of morality, he can do whatever he wants and it would still be just as "good" as anything else.

;Your Fear-Based Relationship Is Not With A Benevolent Being, You Are Fear Mongering<ref name=comfort />{{rp|50-51}}

Comfort says he believed in God for 22 years as a non-Christian, and his belief was not based on fear. He says his father died, "but it was no big deal" because after he had a heart attack he became a Christian. Since he was born shortly after WWII, his Jewish mother put "Methodist" in fear of a future holocaust. Without any instruction, Comfort still believed in God. His point: all it takes to believe in God is a brain. Logic told him there was a Creator. To share this with the "slow" readers, he looks up the definition of "creation" and "Creator" (name of the dictionary not provided);
*Creation: noun, "The Creation, the original bringing into existence of the universe by God."
*Creator: noun, "The Creator, God."

Next, Comfort says "While 'fear-mongering' is bad, never discount 'fear' itself as being bad." Comfort gives examples of how fear stops you from being endangered (stepping off a cliff, burning yourself, etc.). You should fear God because he is to be feared.

This may be nitpicking, but it seems callous that Comfort can overlook the passing of his own father as "no big deal" simply because he died a Christian.

Moving on, it takes a brain to use simple logic, and simple logic seems to be completely absent from the pasty organ that passes for Comfort's brain. It is difficult to count how many times it has been thoroughly and slowly explained to him that he is using faulty logic and completely [[wishful thinking]]. It may be pointless to repeat this again, since he has no intentions whatsoever to change his dogmatic mind for the sake of honesty, but the lay reader who remains unaware of Comfort's verbal trickery should be better informed.

We will allow him to keep his narrow definitions of the words "creation" and "Creator." The first big objection, and ultimately the Achilles heel of Comfort's line of reasoning, is simply Comfort's wishful thinking that this universe is a creation. (To add this: this isn't "logic" that apparently led him to "deduce" there is a god, but a whim, similar to a child saying the Earth is flat because it looks/feels like it.) All Comfort has done is simply '''label''' this universe as a creation without giving the slightest shred of evidence that this universe was put together by some divine being. Instead, the evidence points the other way. The laws of thermodynamics state that the universe is made of matter and energy, which '''cannot be created''' or destroyed, so already we know that the universe cannot be created.

[[Argumentum ad nauseam|Simply repeating "this is a creation! this is a creation!" in a rather childish manner]] does not change [[reality]]. Simply asserting that the observable environment must have a creator is completely without any rationality. For instance, [[Apophenia|we see design and patterns in snowflakes]], but we do not assert that there must be a supernatural snowflake creator who manufactures each flake individually. No, rather we understand (after doing enough research to know the cause; before this, we can merely formulate a few hypotheses about the possibilities of the answer, which would then be proven or disproved with evidence) that snowflakes come about naturally through natural processes without any intervention from the supernatural. Likewise, we can explain the origin of the universe without invoking the supernatural.

Another problem with Comfort's line of reasoning is that it begs the question. If you could establish there is a Creator, that gives no indication whatsoever that the creator is Comfort's specific version of God. For all we can tell, the Creator could be universal eternal sky pixies, the [[Flying Spaghetti Monster]], [[Thor]], Aton, [[Allah]], and so on and so on.

;Why Would the Bible Compare Us To A Worm ({{bible|Job|25|6}})?<ref name=comfort />{{rp|52-53}}

Comfort suggests it is because we are helpless. Like a worm who cannot run away from being stomped on, we are just as helpless as death is about to stomp on us. Your only chance to avoid being stomped on is to accept Jesus.

;Everything Dies, Rots And Is Reused. There Is No Need To Resent That<ref name=comfort />{{rp|53-54}}

Comfort says that skeptics talk in ''absolutes'' in regarding no one can know God or know if there is an afterlife. However, these claims, according to Comfort, reveal their ''lack'' of knowledge. For a skeptic to say "no one knows what happens after death" must have access to every human mind and thought to check to see if anyone ever did. Basically, his knowledge is limited, and he is forced to answer "I don't know." Likewise, an atheist cannot say "There Is No God" rather he should just say "I don't accept there is a God. I just don't know." Therefore, an atheist cannot say with certainty that there is no God, heaven, or (more importantly) hell. Likewise, one cannot say that "everything" dies, because God cannot die. Plus, God said if any human comes to him, they will not die. If you don't believe it, "that is your problem." You may believe in secular science, but try to soften your heart and take a little faith in (his version of) God.

However, there are some things we can know for certain: we know that spherical cubes are impossible. We do not need to search the entire universe to prove this. Likewise, atheists often argue and demonstrate that the traits and characteristics associated with God (particularly Comfort's God) are internally contradictory — similar to spherical cubes. Likewise, we can know if one can survive after death. For something to survive, it must be alive, and there is no indication or a scrap of evidence that there is a non-physical living entity in our bodies that survives death. Therefore, it is not necessary to examine every thought known to man to confirm this. Also, millions to billions of people have come to God in the past couple millennia, and so far ''every one of them'' has, in fact, died (or is still within the normal span of a human life), so his statement above is counterfactual.

;Death is final, even the Bible says so, so I will just live my life to the fullest<ref name=comfort />{{rp|54-55}}

Comfort says people who say this not only believe in the Bible simply because they quoted it, they are also gambling with their eternity. If death is equal, then you will meet the same end as Hitler without any (Divine) punishment. And if men like Hitler are not punished, then God is unjust, "which is unthinkable" ([[Wishful thinking|how fair reality is, governed by a god or not, impacts in no way its validity]]). Comfort says that those who make this claim are in for a shock because THERE IS going to be a resurrection and judgment.

It should go without saying, as anyone with a shred of common sense would know, that simply quoting a verse from a text doesn't mean that the person secretly or openly accepts it. If a Christian quotes the [[Qu'ran]], that doesn't mean they are secretly a [[Muslim]]. An atheist may quote from one of Douglas Adams' books, but that doesn't mean they believe it's a true story. Ironically, Comfort himself has quoted more than once a famous atheist or a book about atheism or anti-theism (some against Christianity in particular); that would mean by the same reasoning that he's an Anti-Christianity atheist.

Comfort goes on to say that if there is a just God, he would punish people like Hitler. However, according to Comfort himself, we are not judged by our works or deeds, rather we are judged by our faith. Hitler was a Christian of sorts (who could have easily repented at his death), which would mean he would be completely forgiven by God. So God will give anyone a pass, and anything is permissible. You can engage in genocide and infanticide. Wait, it gets better, because God may ''specifically order'' you to commit those atrocities. Does this sound like a just God? The only honest answer is NO. So apparently, according to Comfort, if the Bible's God does exist then the "unthinkable" is true: God is unjust.

;I firmly believe Christianity would not have gotten so big without the fear of Hell, but I also fully know the negative psychological impact this has on children<ref name=comfort />{{rp|55-56}}

While Comfort says that claims that the psychological impacts may be legitimate, the promise of heaven is unspeakably wonderful. While Comfort cannot speak for another person, he assures that his children (as well as his friends' and neighbors' children) are not psychologically damaged. Rather, it is the opposite, since they do not fear Hell because Jesus has removed that fear. What does an atheist say to their dying child when he says "Daddy, I don't want to die."? Do they say that is just the way it is or do they say concentrate on the goodness of life? Next, he goes on about all the things Christians will tell their children they were created, all the way to living again in the afterlife (all while pointing out "''you'' don't know"). Comfort says adults are psychologically damaged by their fear of death, and they resort to alcohol, drugs, a psychologist's couch, and [[suicide]]. Comfort says the tragic thing is that fear could leave them if they accepted god.

So Comfort thinks that his children are not psychologically damaged? While we cannot know for sure, and we would hope not, if they are anything like Comfort, then unfortunately, they probably are. Comfort's sense of morality, common sense, consistency, and honesty are absent. His fear of an imaginary fiery realm has driven all his sense into the gutter and has guided his life to be swallowed in a delusion of fantasy and wishful thinking.

;The source of sin and hell come from the very book it claims to be saving us from. If you cannot prove hell, then go away with your empty threats<ref name=comfort />{{rp|56-57}}

Comfort states Hell is not an empty threat. Comfort says the only response is to claim God is not real and forsake your God-given common sense (simply because you just ''don't want'' to believe in God). You can go a step further and deny history, the wind or love since those things cannot be seen. "The key to being a committed atheist is to be totally unreasonable." You can present clear and obvious evidence as creation (which requires a Creator) but this will not do anything with the unreasonable. If you are reasonable, then you should accept that hell is real. Why? Because God is real and he is righteous, and he wants us to go to heaven. Since he is a just God, there must be punishment for the wicked. That punishment is hell. Thus, hell is proven.  And how do we know ''any'' of that?  Well, Comfort says it's all true, and that we all know it's true, so it's true, QED.

Hell is an empty threat, and rather completely imaginary without a shred of proof. Before we go there, unlike God and hell, history can be revealed and documented. The wind can be seen and monitored, and love can be observed under an MRI. We have absolutely nothing to prove there is a hell, rather we know the history and evolution of the concept of Hell from Hellenistic ideals which every dismisses today as a complete myth. 

We have already established that we do not live in a creation, and by Comfort's logic therefore there is no Creator. Even if we allow the argument that there is a Creator, we cannot verify that the creator is Comfort's narrow version of God. Suppose that the Creator only punishes theists and rewards atheists with an afterlife? Or suppose (as Homer Simpson suggested) the Creator is a different god entirely, one who is angered by those who worship a different one, such as the Christian God? Basically, Comfort is placing all his evidence for Hell based on his presupposition and faith that there is a God of a particular version. This is no proof whatsoever; it's merely [[begging the question]]. This makes all of Comfort's worldview and works based on nothing more than simple fantasy.

;You abuse people's bad behaviors, make them feel bad, then go on about Jesus suffering to make them feel sad. Using emotional pulls like this, you are manipulating people<ref name=comfort />{{rp|57-58}}

Comfort says that if a person is in danger, he must warn them, and he is doing the same with people and hellfire. Comfort admits he has broken all the Commandments, which is why he needs a Savior. Comfort says he never judges anyone he interviews; he barely knows them. If a person admits they are a liar, Comfort believes them and carries on the message of the Bible out of love and nothing more. Comfort then states "there is one though that skeptics don't seem to take into account. What if hell does exist? What if the Bible is right? What if God is holy and just and will punish murderers and rapists in a terrible placed called hell? What if every single person will get what's coming to them? If what we say is the gospel truth, then what we are saying is justified and most necessary."

The big problem with this argument is that there's no evidence whatsoever that anyone is in danger when they die. There is no scientific evidence that there is a piece of us that survives bodily death. Also, simply breaking the rules of a particular religion doesn't mean therefore the religion is true and you must get right with it. For instance, Comfort himself has broken all the 5 Pillars of Islam and the tenets of Scientology, but that doesn't worry him in the slightest. Repeat the question in a different manner: what if you are wrong about Allah? This doesn't worry Comfort, nor should it—but by the same token, God and Hell shouldn't worry anyone else.

Comfort ends this argument with the old [[Pascal's Wager]] — a long-debunked argument that assumes there is a 50/50 chance there is a God, so you should go with the God option because you lose nothing or gain everything. However, this is easily refuted by the fact that there are over 30,000 denominations in Christianity alone, so to be a Christian you have a 1/30,000 chance of being right. On top of that, there is also Judaism and Islam, each with hundreds of denominations, etc., add the odds of all the major religions today with all their denominations. Keep going, add in the gods for every faith-based belief ever known to mankind throughout history. One last step, there are basically an infinite number of different deities that could theoretically exist. So your chances of being right about God is 1 divided by (effectively) infinity — which is nearly absolute zero. ''Also'' bear in mind that Christianity is a poor bet because it specifically requires you give the finger to all the other deities. Add this to the mix: what if there is a God but he only rewards atheists?<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ha18O1dAI David Mitchell on Pascals Wager]. RATIONALItees, YouTube, 2011.</ref> Or what if he rewards skepticism and punishes blind faith?  Or maybe more plausibly, what if he judges people's behavior rather than their belief, as many Christian sects believe?

==Chapter 4: Salvation in Christ - The Promise of Heaven and Eternal Life==
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==Chapter 5: The Testimony of Holy Scripture==
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==Chapter 6: What Sets Christianity and Christians Apart?==
Comfort begins this chapter talking about his ongoing goal to reach atheists and nonbelievers. He says that nonbelievers do not know [[No true Scotsman|''genuine'' Christianity]]. Rather they have seen empty Catholic churches and hypocritical money-grabbing pastors (''like himself perhaps? His God may not judge people for their works, but other people certainly do'').

He says atheists are bitter and angry, then moves on to mention [[Rational Response Squad debate with Way of the Master |the "bitter and angry" atheists he and Kirk Cameron debated on Nightline]]. Before the debate, he received letters from mothers whose children are atheists.

;How do you know you have the right God?<ref name=comfort />{{rp|90}}

Comfort says this is a good question, and then looks at other religions (Greek, Aztec, Mormon).

;Hope for a "True Atheist''<ref name=comfort />{{rp|90}}

This is a section in the page, but it is one big quote addressed by Jacques Reulet, who claims he was  a "true" atheist. Here is the piece in whole,
{{quotebox|I was a true atheist. I was addicted to pornography and a big fan of torture. I hated the Bible and literally looked at 'contract killer' as a career option. I favored Darwinian abortion of potentially disabled children and agreed with the majority of Adolf Hitler's statements about the disabled and invalid. I fantasized about murder and contemplated suicide and held nothing but hatred in my heart for anyone who told me I was wrong. In short, I was the most degenerate scum to ever walk the Earth. That God saved me is still far beyond my comprehension. I have to wake up everyday and think 'wow.' Nowadays I work at the church I once hated going to. I greet daily a pastor I once did everything in my power to ignore, and I serve as an assistant to a youth leader I once despised. I play in the Sunday band and teach drums to the young boys in the congregation for extra income. I teach Sunday school and am a regular fixture at the weekly prayer meetings and church events. People who have known me throughout the process have told me how astonishing it is to have seen the transformation. But no one is as impressed as me with how God has changed my heart and life. So that's me. I'm a 6'6 nineteen-year-old motorcyclist who plays drums, carries a Bible, vacuums a church, writes scripts that will never be made into films, and carries around a hefty supply of ''Way of the Master'' on his iPod.}}

What a string of [[non sequitur]]s! Let's take them one at a time, shall we?
* Pornography isn't related to atheism.  This bit seems to be a result of the mindset that "anything outside my particular sect of Christianity = atheism".
* Torture also isn't related to atheism. In fact, the [[Dick Cheney|biggest]] [[John Ashcroft|fans]] [[Alberto Gonzales|of torture]] in the Bush Administration were committed Christians.
* Hating the Bible is really more [[Antitheism|anti-theist]] than atheist, though plenty of atheists are anti-theistic.
* Seeing "contract killer" as a career option has nothing to do with atheism, and everything to do with being a sociopath.
* Favoring the killing of the disabled and invalid is [[eugenics]], not atheism. Or evolution, for that matter. Eugenics is animal husbandry applied to humans, aka artificial selection, whereas evolution involves ''natural'' selection; in fact, artificial selection is a way of ''interfering'' with the process of evolution. Also, in the days when eugenics were popular, it was advocated by plenty of Christians<ref>{{wpa|Eugenics#Supporters_and_critics}}</ref> — which isn't to say eugenics = Christianity, but it does mean eugenics isn't equal to atheism.
* Fantasizing about murder - see "sociopath" above.
* Contemplating suicide - people of all religious inclinations do that. That's a sign of needing help, not (specifically) religion.
* Feeling hatred for anyone who said you were wrong - see "sociopath" above.
So in short, he was messed up and in need of some help, but labeling that as "atheism" doesn't change what it really was. And it doesn't reflect on atheists as a whole, either ([[TheAmazingAtheist|though there are exceptions]]).

;According to the statistics, Christian regions are far worse than secular regions<ref name=comfort />{{rp|94}}

Comfort says this is interesting, but dismisses it and blames the church for teaching a "false gospel" — basically the [[No true Scotsman]] fallacy. He says the false gospel tells people that their lives will improve upon conversion, but he says the opposite will happen (there will be trials and hardships). However, according to said statement, the Christian regions suffering from a bad situation would be those preaching the "true gospel", which should be bringing hardships to its practitioners (or maybe he is improvising inconsistent random claims on the spot).  It should also go with mention that the claim is more often that countries with a high degree of ''religiosity'' — not necessarily Christian — suffer from poorer conditions.  The Muslim world, in fact, provides plenty of examples, and atheists making this point often use Islamic states as examples; this isn't specifically an argument against Christianity.

;Testimony of Genuine Christians<ref name=comfort />{{rp|98}}

Here is the first quote Comfort posts. It starts off: 

{{quotebox|"I think at whether the scriptures are true or not is irrelevant. Christianity is a mindset, a philosophy, a way of living that depends on the practitioners/believers practicing it more than anything...When I was a Christian...."<ref name=comfort />{{rp|98}}}}

Comfort says that what this person should have written was "when I ''professed'' to be a Christian" or "when I was a false convert." He says that this interpretation of Christianity is false: "A Christian is someone who knows the Lord." He says that Judas is a great example of a false convert, "faking" his faith for years and being a thief ({{bible|John|12|6}}). He says that Jesus knew he would be betrayed from the beginning, citing {{bible|John|6|70}}. He says Judas had no idea who Jesus was, that Judas thought Jesus was not worth the valuable ointment that Mary rubbed on Jesus' feet and thought "that the money should have been given to the poor." He says Judas later hanged himself, which is written in one New Testament verse but contradicted in another.

He then addresses the concept of deception: the thing is that the deceived does not know he is being deceived. "That is why we need God's Word as a guide." It apparently does not occur to Comfort that same guide might be a deceiver and he wouldn't know it.

He warns the reader to be careful when they dine with atheists, because they will serve you delicious food that will contain poison that will "go straight to your heart." He claims atheists will feed people Bible verses out of context, misquotes, and half-truths. That's rich, coming from the guy who still quote-mines Charles Darwin on the evolution of the eye. He certainly understands how to misquote.

;Are Christians not really Christians until they are born-again?<ref name=comfort />{{rp|100}}

A person asks if Comfort if he thinks that Catholics, Methodists, Lutherans, etc. are not really Christians unless they are born-again. He answers that the Bible does not have these names, rather it has only two: just and unjust. The just are those God has made right with through faith in Jesus Christ while the unjust still live in their sins.

On the issue on who is justified, he mentions [[Martin Luther]] who asked that question long ago. Luther discovered through reading the Bible that we are all justified. The criminal is guilty, but the judge pays the criminal's fine: "that's called mercy." he later uses {{bible|1 Timothy|2|19}} to declare who are true Christians (This becomes hilarious considering what he said about atheists quoting the Bible out of context '''two pages ago''').

;Gandhi said that he likes Christ, but not Christians<ref name=comfort />{{rp|100}}

A person shares a quote that Gandhi likes Christ, but not Christians because they are nothing like their Christ. Comfort responds that nobody is like Jesus Christ, because Christ was sinless. ''Nice sidestep, Ray!''

;I was a believer, but got no response to prayers<ref name=comfort />{{rp|104}}

A person says they believed in God, but his fellow believers never got a response to their prayers. Comfort says that there is a difference in being a believer and a Christian. "Every sane human being is a "believer" in God's existence. Some pretend he does not exist (atheists) but they know He does." (Note that this guy's actual point is that "everyone should worship MY god, but those who don't must be in denial, so I will start by labeling them as atheists since they can be also seen as irrational by some theists of any religions". Another fallacy, the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, is that he assumes that everyone who was a theist (a Christian theist, in their opinion) but left their religion has done so only because they did not hear voices in their head. Not to mention that replacing the Abrahamic god with, for instance, Odin, saying everyone knows deep inside he exists but some deny it, would be just as valid.)

Comfort says that the reason why believers do not get a response is because they have not done what they have been commanded to do by God. He compares this to not believing in cell phones because no response is heard (all because they did not follow the instructions and turn the phone on).{{efn|This is a false analogy. We can actually readily deduce the phone's existence and presence, whether it works or not, so it would be more accurate to say: "I don't believe the person whose number I'm repeatedly calling to no avail exists". Likewise, the phone would be more comparable to prayer than a deity, despite the sort of prayer he speaks of is meant to have only ONE receiver (the [[YHWH|Abrahamic]] [[God]]). The deity's "lagging response" can be excused with any number of assumed pretexts, while a phone's overall functionality can be empirically tested by using it to call some people, and analyzing how efficient it was.}} He says the procedure and instructions to being heard is to repent and trust in Jesus Christ. He claims that he gets a response every time he prays: sometimes yes, sometimes no, sometimes "please hold." Does he also know that any person can get the same results by praying to a milk jug,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20061206004727/http://godisimaginary.com/video8.htm The best optical illusion in the world!] godisimaginary.com.</ref> their left shoe, or the [[Flying Spaghetti Monster]]? Even the non-genuine Christian who does not follow the procedure he is responding to can get the same exact results he gets, their claims of being able to communicate with said god being just as valid as him; furthermore, some Christian theists who do everything a "true Christian" should do (in his opinion at least) can still say they do not hear their god's vocal answer, or suffer from a kind of schizophrenia in general.

==Chapter 7: The Witness of Jesus Christ and of God's Holy Spirit==
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==Conclusion==
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==See also==
*[[Atheism]]
*[[Nothing Created Everything: The Scientific Impossibility of Atheistic Evolution]]

==External links==
*[http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2009/02/you-can-lead-atheist-to-evidence-but.html You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, but You Can't Make Him Think] (Strolling with a skeptical biochemist) This is a good online discussion of how Comfort gets stuff wrong.
*[https://archive.ph/QwjLM Book Review: “You Can Lead An Atheist To Evidence, But You Can’t make Him Think” by Ray Comfort] Very critical review
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO4cNfFYXr8 You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, but You Can't Make Him Think] The Atheist Experience on Ray Discomfort (video)

==Notes==
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==References==
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